The Deep 3 Podcast - Reacting To The NBA's Biggest Stories Of The Week | TD3 Live

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

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Woo! Your breath is hard in here. Okay. Woo! Please brush your damn teeth. He has no words to that. We are here. We are alive back on November 24th, 4.30 p.m. every Monday.

We are here to recap the week of NBA news. People are in the chat saying late. That's how you know. So it's a Tuesdays through Monday. We're in our natural habitats. How are y'all feeling? Been good. Feeling great.

Woo. Jalen Johnson is here. He has arrived. I feel great, man. I feel like you could have a big a different tune that would have fit that better, a little better rhythm. Sorry, I'm not an artist.

I know. We can tell. Do you guys have better tunes? I never heard you tune harder to me before. I mean, I don't know if I do off top of my head, but I think if I would have chosen to make a Jalen Johnson song, I can only assume it would have been a little bit better.

Do you know how to beatbox? No. Do you? Yeah. Let me hear your best beat box right now. Ready? If I give him a pencil, he'd go crazy. Oh, no, I'm like.

The lights are too bright. Chat said, Cap. I don't believe you. Spencer Bowman in the chat started the stream. Nice and perfect said, how about them cowboys? How about them damn cowboys? Shut up, Spencer. Don't say a damn word.

It don't matter what channel we are on. Housecall, T-D-3. We're on a live channel And some of Zane said How about them Rams Donovan? All your agendas are crumbling Oh shit They're in the weeds with us right now man

Donovan you have anything to say How about your mama? How about that? How about that? How about that? How about that? Shut up. Shut up.

It's still fun now. It's still hot. All right. Let's talk basketball. Yo, fuck of me. You never heard. Donovan suck like that ever. He doesn't even curse on the show.

Donovan is the easiest person to trigger in the world. Chad knows it. How about that? I think, so guys, we recorded a house call this morning. I said it tomorrow we had to, because we're traveling for Thanksgiving, we had to move around our schedule a little bit. So we already recorded a house call. We already got the Donovan soliloquy.

He already got his rant off for about 20 minutes to start the show. You guys will see it tomorrow. But Donovan, you want to have a chance to get it off again? I mean, listen, man. Tap into real great and his legendary. Shador announced today that he's the starter. We're up. Shador Hive is up.

Put your watches up. Understand, we will be back. Jalen's talked about it. Everybody else has talked about it. Petulo, count your days. If you have my guys looking sloppy again, it will be trouble for you. I will make sure of that. Please do not let the season go to waste.

I promise you. There will be issues. Shrimp donated $3.34. He said, Drummond's rebirth is real. Also, Donovan. I'm a sad. Eagles fan today. Shout out shrimp show in solidarity with you.

But that's enough NFL talk. We have house called for that. We're talking about that tomorrow. We're going to start off today with talking about the biggest news stories across the NBA. And I think it's only right that we start by having a deep dive into the Jama Rant versus Clay Thompson battle. They played Grizzlies versus Mavericks a couple of days ago. John Moran naturally was on the sideline of street clothes.

And Clay Thompson said something to Jaron Jackson during the game. I think. We're in a Nike tech. Smoothest Nike tech. No quarter dips. He's not the type too. He had a great taper. He was in Krispy.

And after the game ended, Clay was jabbering with, I think that Spencer, and John Morant came into his defense and said, you were bum now. And they had a whole back and forth. Clay Thompson went to the post game presser after and basically said he can say what he wants, but his career is all about disappointment. Only time we talk about him was for headlines, not about him on the courts. How did you feel? Who came out at the top of this exchange?

Clay Thompson did, because, and only because Joe Morant, his PR is in the absolute gutter. You cannot say anything at this point trying to talk down on everybody else because you have caused bad vibes. We know that your team sucks and you don't really want to be there or at least it looks like you guys don't want to be there. And like Clay said, he's a funny guy with no accountability, just running his mouth. He's been running his mouth a long time. it's funny you run your mouth when you're on the bench it's kind of been the whole story of his career so far and this is hilarious because he's been saying the same thing

Clay's been saying the same thing for years a couple of years ago when they had their playoff series I think it was initially to get into the play in and they got I think they got bounced by the other midfixies like back in 2021 or whatever or 2023 whatever that was and like there's always been beef between Clay whether Clay and Dylan Brooks when he was over there

or Clay and Jaws and they just don't like each other and the Grizzies are known to talk John's just known to talk, but at the end of the day, it's the same thing that has persisted for years now. Nothing has changed since then. Yeah, that's why somehow I find myself defending John Morant a little bit. I think John Morant has largely been intolerable over the past couple years. I think he's become very unlikable compared to where he was when he was the young rising star we all love to watch. I have not been pro John Morant on the court, off the court in really any capacity.

I find it hilarious that everybody now hates him so much for reasons not. having to do with this at all that now he's not allowed to talk shit this was a year ago everybody would have been saying john morant is real john moran's funny because everybody on twitter saying john morat shouldn't be saying this also calls clay thompson a bum like they also say that clay thompson is watched and some reason a player can't say it because they don't like that player now it's a problem no the the the problem is you're both broke yeah i get the the problem is you're both broke yeah exactly you both have no money and you're calling until they're broke for Sure. So I understand. I understand it's like, why is he talking? How much you focus on playing some games first, buddy? I get it. It's just real funny because it's one of those things where like, I can say it. I'm a fan. He can't say it. He's a player that isn't that credibility, but he's still a player. I'm pretty shit talking every facet, even when you're down bad.

It's also, okay, so I, one, I do respect it in, in that fashion because it's, we are not going to see John, like, switch up from what he normally is. So, okay, I will, I will grant you that. The reason why I do think it's okay, even aside from you're both broke right now, to get on job, is because also what Clay said, which is like, you guys have done all of this, all of this talking, and they've been yapping since 21. It's been one playoff series since that time. Like, this has been nearly half a decade of you calling people bum, saying that you're this, saying that you're that, saying, I'm fine in the West. It's never been fine in the West for you.

you've never been safe out west it's never been okay you've never been at at the top of the conference and look at this this is crazy since clay tore his Achilles after tearing his ACL he's played in more NBA games than job rant there has never been any time where there has been anything for job to stand on even when they were like halfway decent because they were still losing playoff series to the warrior yeah to clay I think two things are true I think John Morant is allowed to say this and call Clay Thompson a bum and the fans being like, he needs to shut his mouth and get on the court. I'm like, you're doing too much.

Let them talk shit. But also, Clay cooked them. Like, everything he said is so true. So I'm with you. Clay won the exchange. I just think we should allow them to have the exchange. I think we should stand for an exchange happening. You're just a freedom of speech guy.

Exactly. Let John talk shit. If he gets bloodied up by the response that Clay gives him, let him get bloodied up. You're allowed to get bloodied up even when you're on the sideline, is what I'm saying. The man, did he get cooked? Oh, man. I love seeing two homeless people call each other bro.

It's so fucking fun. You said it's kind of been. the whole story of his career so far that's tough i didn't hear i didn't hear the clip i only read it i'm i just the tone in which you said it i bet it was funny uh 100% he also he also was like yeah it's kind of funny because this is a guy who talks who like rarely takes accountability for anything and he he 100% is right he's done this also before with former grisdly like you said he called jaren jackson junior a bum yeah because jaren jackson was talking a couple years ago i i'm watching this i want dillen brooks to come back to to the gris

least they they need somebody else who can just be as delusional as they are and to where that feels like that is their brand and it the delusion feels fun as opposed to just like yeah you know we're like four and 13 and just yeah in the comments I got distracted for a second debating a job right has a right to talk or not also boat five six four said mo fell off when it comes to being the creamiest what are we talking about right now all I'm seeing is factual obligation They're cream watching right now. You don't know what I have. They're talking about.

They're definitely watching. Hop off, bad. Shout out to Dark Lobster for tipping $10. Sorry, almost missed that. He said, Die Eagles die.

I'll send you $10 back. We don't know. That's fine. No, I'm keeping that shit. Shout out to Hunter for tipping $3. He said, did everybody forget about Willie Colley Stein? I feel like he's been forgot.

Why would we remember Willie Colley Stein? Why do we want to talk about Willie Colley Stein? Let's take a moment. Just remember Willie Collie Stein. Nice. Anyways, we're never seeing his name ever even. Is this, yeah, this is, if anything, this whole thing

and the backlash to Jha is so indicative of how he really has ran out of goodwill. Like, even outside of him being bad now and aside of all the controversies, like it's all come together, he really has lost all likability. People have no patience with Jammarant anymore. I mean, say, why would you, bro?

Like, he hasn't done much to grant or warrant any patience because we haven't seen a ultra-positive year from him in maybe over two years now at this point whether it be like any type of playoff success getting into the playoffs yeah they got in playoffs last year but they didn't do nothing they got spanked the worst way the worst way

but okay see year before that like we know what happened he was suspended for an egregious amount of time for whatever he did during the offseason or during the off the court so it's like there's nothing he did to deserve any type of grace and I think that for someone like John Moran he also going back to what you said

has no room to talk when will he have room to talk never not until he fucking bruised until he deserves our trust his fans yeah i would have liked this better if if he had talked to clay if he had his uniform on i i really do think that like being in street clothes while this is happening plays a big role into it because like you didn't even play in whatever game you're calling somebody a bum yeah and that's also like another that is so funny too right another another part of this someone said which else player coms but in podcast terms. What does that mean?

Like, I get it. Some with those a lot of hot takes they're Dion Waiters. They get shots up. That's that but thing. I have to think about it.

Yeah, if I don't know, that's a hard one. I'll let you think about that. You know, we started this stream off, talking about beef, talking about drama,

talking about the policing of drama and what you are aren't allowed to say depending on the clothes you're wearing. We have another one to talk about. Kenyon Martin says he respects you among Greens,

career, but he can't put him in the same categories, Oakley, Zibo, et cetera, when it comes to throwing hands, because he picks and chooses his fight strategically. So he said this, basically called him a fake demon, said he only fights and gets loud when it suits him. Zoom baking, Zoom banking?

Who's a fake demon? Rashop McCannes? Why do you have a bat and a crown on this show? Fake demon, calm down. There are no words being spoken that requires that. So, obviously, this started this whole exchange, him saying that Dremont's not really about it.

He only fights when he, you know, he's inclined to based on his own advantage. And that led to response after response. Dremon slams Kenyon Martin. I don't know how you continue to shoot at me when you underachieved. One All-Star? If I stopped playing today, my career was better,

way more impactful. Your resume got to be a little better to keep taking shots. I'm not going to lie. This right here, what we're witnessing, is the best part of player podcast. So they can beef with each other

and talk shit about each other's career and say things that we are not allowed to necessarily say and also be like, damn, like, make us really think about it at all. This is beautiful. So Kenyon Martin, you can't be talking to me. You're not on my level to be giving me any type of opinions on how tough or not tough I am. So how does Kenyon Martin respond? He goes on a live stream and he names 100 power forwards better than Dream on Green.

This is the full list. There is 100 names here, I believe. This list keeps on going and going and going and going. Oh, my God. I'm scrolling. He was, I just, one of the names that I saw was Reggie Evans. 100 PowerFords is insane. He says a 300 and 300.

This is a three minute and 16 second video of him named PowerFords. You can go through a little bit. Start up in the bottom. Reggie Evans. Popeye Jones. Nay, nay, nay. Al Harrington. Rashard.

David Lee. Joanne Howard. Otis Thorpe. Paul Millsap. Jason Williams. He decided throw up one guard in there. Josh Smith. Josh Smith

Drew Gooden Tim Thomas Tim Thomas Alex Jefferson Danny Manning Nice Larry Johnson Germaine O'Neill

Oh he's said Antoine Jameson Oh he's Hayden man Chris Weber Okay So now we're obviously The topic Understandable names

AD young Yeah Okay So chat How many power forwards Are better than Germain green Can you get to 100

Is the question here Popai Jones is hilarious It is funny He said N-N-A man he must be real cool when nanae to throw him out there

bro that's like such a good shit talk though but fucking nai's better than you you can't hold nay nay

Popeye Popeye don't give you buckets what the fuck I've seen Antoine James and give you a bucket oh apparently people were saying

in the chat that he dropped 200 better than Dremont okay so this is an abbreviated version oh my god and my question to you guys

as I bring this up you know why are we talking about Kenyon Martin, you can say whatever he wants. Have you ever hated something as much as Kenyon H. Raymond? Have you ever had the dedication to list 200 people better at their job? Did you know how much time that takes

out of your day and how much like... It was probably quick for Kenyon. I'm sure he had it. I mean, peak for peak. That's unreal disdain, brother. He just had it ready. You know, one game, game seven, I need a bucket. You see Nenay on the block?

I see Nenai hit a drop set dunk. surprised he didn't say Kenneth Farid, man. I was just about to say, do you think, I mean, Dremont can't jump with Kenneth Reed. If I throw a lot, were you stopping it? He can't jump with Kenneth would kill him. We want to go international. Louis Scola's out here doing things. But this

is fantastic. This is, this is old head drama, stuff that will never ever be put to the test if we were to have celebrity boxing matches. I would want this match on the... When they're washing, they need money. That's the pipeline.

Which one of these guys is more likely to go fight Jake Paul one day? Dremont instantly. Dremont? Hand ends now. I can see Dremont in like 10, 15 years maybe. Just be like, I mean, I don't know, man. You know, it's a good business opportunity, you know? Nah, man.

The Warriors can't let him do that. And he's, I can see it. I can see the promotional tweet where it's him and Jake Paul on the on the card on the poster he like quote tweets and says something nice and then has then does like hashtag sag nasty or something. Sack nasty. Shout out to dark lobster for tipping $5. He said Donovan, have you been, can you give us a seminar on hating? I'm actually working on a course that you will be able to purchase on Instagram $25 a month. It will be, it will be available in 2026. I'll drop the link in the next

couple months or so, but we are working on that. yeah we scamming it's all about multiple revenue streams it's all about expanding the revenue flows into the LLC exactly are we are we having multiple LLCs are you getting passive income right is your money working for you let's actually talk

let's build because one thing about us you have to get to 10,000 next story to talk about guys it's official Chris Paul is retiring at the end of the season something we already kind of knew he hinted at but it wasn't official. He played about 17 games and said,

damn, my back hurts. It's official. This is so funny because I saw somebody say, yo, he actually announced it before the season. And everybody forgot because he was playing so trash. He had to announce it again. This is his third time over the last six months talking about it, right?

Yeah. Yeah, like before the season started, he talked about it. I think he was at like fanatics or some show. And he talked about, no, man, like this might not be my last year. capping he went ahead actually got some burning you realized whole shit like I really don't got it anymore and had to reannounce it again you know you know what I knew that even before

this this originally came out I knew it was never ever more over in the reunion episode for love is blind they had Chris Paul in there and what they were hosting uh they had apparently like two two other couples I didn't watch the season as I normally do but apparently like these two couples in the in the pod or whatever they talked a lot about like maybe they're like their basketball stuff and so they brought out a basketball hoop and they had chris paul there and he just like gave them he was passing the the ball to each of them and they were having like it was it was a couple that didn't work out so it's like these two exes having a free throw contest and it's like it's like all right let's let's see who wins for the bragging rights and

they just had chris paul there i was like yeah that's a pitiful bag like bro dude love is why are you here that's a pitiful bag right You also never played for the Nuggets. You have no ties to Denver whatsoever. You play in L.A. I know that this happened just because you live in L.A. And they're like, hey, I think we can get this on. I think we can get you.

What is Denver got to do with anything? Huh? What does Denver got to do with anything? That's where they filmed this season of Love & Bar again. And he just doesn't, again, there's no connection. He just got the bag and went. It's over. It's done.

I had no idea. And I would have never found that out until you said it. Yeah, bro. like he honestly the fact that he played 82 games last year is shocking that's crazy yeah what do you think a prime crisp ball would rank today would it be like

I mean minimum top 10 no higher than that yeah yeah but like like the floor is low higher than that because it's kind of depleted right now because Jason Tatum's hurt and Kevin Rance not top 10 anymore and I feel like he was holding on last year

Jewel and B's not top 10 anymore we'll see when we get to our Christmas show and we do our top 30 rankings I genuinely don't know who seven through ten is right now. But he's better than Anthony Edwards. So Anthony Edwards is like six or seven. Wow, man.

Chris Paul was so good. Yeah. Yeah, prime Chris Paul, man. Every time something happens to Chris Paul in a headline, all you see is Twitter discourse where some people will be like, this is the most overrated player of all time, couldn't accomplish anything, bum, then everybody else is like, oh, that's actually probably the most underrated star of all time.

And I am firmly in the latter. That is probably going to be the most underappreciated star of all time. Yeah. So you have Yokic, Janice. Shea Luca. And let's just say Tatum was healthy. That would be the top five in the league right now. He's better than Tatum.

All right, five it is? Yeah. He'll be him or Wembe for five. Yeah. But there's no, I don't know. Prime Chris Falls, clear as Tatum. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, so top seven is the floor. Yeah, depending on what Anthony Edwards does again. But really five is the floor to me. I feel like he's better than all these guys besides those top four. And I think him versus Luca, obviously, Lucas is a score. So I don't know. He'd probably get the nod to the public. but that'd be a conversation.

Yeah, that's fair. Because he is like, anywhere he went, they did win. And he was an amazing defender. Like for his size at 6-0-1 on a good day, one of the better, especially amongst high-usage players, one of the better defenders of all time in his prime. Yeah, and considering how spaced out the floor would have been, he did play in the three-point era, obviously, too.

But I do think he would probably average him around like 24, maybe 25 in his best years. Yeah, really like if he wants to type thing. It's like the Steve Nashning. It's like, if he wants to, obviously, you can remain efficient and probably get to 23, 24. He just wasn't his M.O.

It's his style of play. People were saying, what the fuck, you already forget what Jason Tatum did? This is the type of shit I'm talking about. This is why Chris Paul is the most underrated player of all time. You're talking about what Jason Tatum did? It's Chris Paul.

I don't get a fuck about what Jason Tatum did. This is Chris Paul. It's the top 30 peak of all time. We also slanded Jason Tatum the entire playoff play. Shout out Jason Tatum. Obviously, he was a fifth best player last year. Still worthy being in that category. Chris Paul,

at his prime is so much better than the anomaly it's not even close the fact that people will consider that is insane that shows exactly what I'm saying top three point guard of all time I feel like when I was like 12 people said that a lot I feel like when I was a little kid people like told me

when I was getting to basketball that Chris Paul is the greatest point guard of all time when I believed them I feel like I've seen a lot more of the top three stuff like the last couple weeks as people are doing like you know Chris Paul's not going to be here

where is it type of that might be it yeah uh speaking of old men lebron james is back has played two games against the utah jazz and they've gone two and oh have you guys got to watch these games yes how do you feel about the lebron james era of the season damn he's old he is old is he gonna average 20 i think so but it would be a struggle i don't i think he'll probably gets 20 because i think he'll probably look better as the games go on if this is what he looks like for the whole season then probably not but he looks like a guy that not only is old hasn't played five on five basketball in seven months he looks unbelievably rusty in a way that like it's not even that he's just old it's like this guy like muscle memory for

basketball is clearly off and clearly he's like used to being in the flow of things there's so many times where he's like the offball defense where he's like standing still where it doesn't even look like his laziness it looks like he's like where is everybody yeah it's not normal for lebron it's like come Come on, LeBron. It's okay. There, there, LeBron, back to bed. On court, fit-wise, though, it's seamless. It's beautiful.

And it also is weird sometimes, seeing how he's letting just Austin Rees cook once in a while, and he's just in the corner just chilling, hands in his pocket, just waiting for the ball to swing his way or waiting until he can, like, make an exoner ball, whether be get offense rebound or just set a screen on somebody or whatever it is. So I enjoy it. This is what he wanted to be for a long time. Now he literally has to be this because I don't know if he had his, has any other level to him.

currently. Obviously, he's going to be better as time goes on. I can't, you're not going to expect this level of play. But talking about just how they have like this secondary ball handler at all times alongside Luca and Austin Reeves. It's a beautiful basketball. Yeah, I think offensively, it really is hard to say right now what it's going to look like just because you said he's deferring.

Yeah, he's like more than deferring. He's like refusing to do anything just because he's so out of the flow of things that I feel we're going to need like 10 games at least before we really get a feel for what LeBron looks like. And really it's going to be the 10 games after the first 10 games. games after we give him a chance to get his feet wet because right now the defense they have when they had their starting lineup out there with him and ruy both in the lineup as a forwards it's fucking abysmal it is untenable at this point to start him and ruy long term or at least

to close with those two the just sheer lack of speed lack of foot speed specifically and like even not even just like foot speed just like defensive processing and motor it is hilarious to have reeves luca ruy and lebron out there lebron coming off an injury everybody standing around. There is no, umph. Yeah. When I saw towards the end of the game versus the Utah Jazz, Larry Markman was going for a game winning shot and he ended up missing. But the amount of separation that he got on LeBron, and the amount of separation that everyone at fucking Rosser was able to get on anyone on the Lakers, very, very alarming, I will say. Yeah, they look incredible whenever they have Marcus Smart out there because it's like, wow, having one defender that's going to try real hard

and run around makes a big difference. That's obviously who they should start, I think, but they don't want to make him have too many minutes on his tires because marcus markus hurt really easily and really's been so good offensively i'm sure they want to make that work and have that crazy size advantage that's not going to work they need to either trade for another defender they feel good about that size or start marcus smart yeah i think for for them at least at least for also that tweet is hilarious of like lebron passes himself for for the most points it's talking about wait zoom in this this this is is hilarious awesome reason to stop throwing lobs. First he threw one to Luca the other day and injured Luca and then he tried to

throw one to LeBron. That was terribly thrown and LeBron's not going to get up like that. And this is multiple years of LeBron being like, Austin, stop throwing me lobs. Like I can't, I can't go up and get these and you're still throwing these lobs. Look how high he's throwing it. Austin don't give a fuck and I love it, but he's going to throw him regardless no matter what. The way through the Luca was hilarious the first jazz game. Why are you throwing lobs to Luca Duncich? And Luca really wanted it for a second. And he actually tried to get it. Of course he did. Nobody else is planning.

He's brave enough to throw Luca a lot. He's never seen that shit go up before. He was like a dog playing fetch. He's eyes put up. He's never seen anything like that. Yeah, I think plays like this show you, yeah. I mean, it's kind of over in terms of, in terms of like LeBron being the guy that you think is like actually going to be the, I don't know, in a playoff series. You know, who do I really want?

That looks to be kind of kind of. done. I mean, sure, but that also was a dumbass law. But he barely jumped for it. Off of, off of that, off of, obviously, it's just two games. He has to get his, his feet web, but this is something that we've, that we've been seen. And it's not, it's also not a, it's not a shot. It's 41, 42. Yeah. Of course, his athleticism is going to decline. I do think that eventually he will be, he will be fine enough on, on defense. Like, he's too smart to not be an impactful defender. and to allow himself to be in Rui Hatchamore defensive conversation.

Yeah, I think the defense will be fine. That's the one where clearly he needs time to get his feedback. And also his conditioning, he is clearly out of shape and gets tired real fast out there, which again makes sense when you can't play 5'5 basketball

for so long. So I'm not terribly worried about the defensive side. I'm really wondering what the offense is going to net out as because every year for the past three years he's gotten worse and worse as a rim finisher.

He really can't finish layups very well anymore. He smokes layups constantly in the past two seasons. because he doesn't jump as high. So, like, when he jumps off one foot, he's really, like, on the ground, like, throwing it up. So his rim percentage on layups has gotten really bad. Wondering how that nets out,

because obviously, once he gets used to things and gets in the flow of rolling downhill off of these screens, he should get a lot of good looks from the ball handlers, fitting in there and being able to do this, like, slashing thing and not just be an actual, like, you always talk about the Dremont Green comparison. Dremont Green doesn't slash like that. That's what it looks like in these first two games,

I'm really just going to be the old man at the park. I'm going to facilitate. that first game back he was looking for everybody he was looking to do everything else except for score for for himself and it doesn't like it seems fine also just for the first couple games of this is going to be my way of getting myself involved in the game without having to force myself to put my head down and drive to the basket or look for my shots and exert too much energy and I can do this and facilitate and get everybody else involved and still feel like I'm impacting the game you know so I he's he's obviously going to be

fine um I just don't I'm I'm curious to see how far at this point then Luca is able to take them because Luca and Reeves because the idea of Luca and LeBron being the best two players in a playoff series and all that stuff like everybody else they have elevated they are elevating right now, that's just going to be the one thing that I'm looking at of like this is really a like changing of the guard that that we're seeing right now. Yeah, that's

the part of that I'm like, let's give it time because I feel like we can easily look up 10 games from now and he's back to being of a 22 point per game score like fitting better and like, I mean yeah, but like Reeves was out and obviously Bron was out but like Reeves I've been 30. Yeah, also Luca was out for some of that. So whatever the line is and who's better

between Reeves and LeBron or if it even matters that's the part where I'm not sure where we're at yet and like the recalibration of like his level of star like i don't know is he like people are going to be like well lebrons still top 35 player in the league like i don't know if he's fallen that far yet that's a part i feel like we're going to need some time to really get a gauge of yeah we'll see we'll see for the christmas episode for our top 30 i think right now midteens is still about where i would have him i don't know it's hard to say it's right now it's way i mean mid teens can mid teens can to 19 18 19 so it's okay i i think i think i

I might still look at him as a top 20 player whenever we get to December, just if we're banking in ramping up, you know, ramp up time and all of that. Right now, obviously. Yeah, for these two games, it's not, but if we assume he'll be there. I feel like it'll probably look largely

like it did last year, you know, once he gets back to things. Like, he was already kind of cooked athletic he last year. I don't, it's hard because we've never seen a player that's old with this much skill. Like, when you're 42 or 41 to 40, like, is there a big physical difference?

Like, is every year going to get portiony worse? Or is he already at the point where he's completely physically cooked for his standards? Fine, I'll say it, I'll say it. Say what?

LeBron James is going to fall off a cliff. Yeah, I feel like he'll probably be probably closer to like 22 or something like that if assuming he's worse. But he also, if he looks like last year, he's still like the 15th best player

in the world or something, but the first two games doesn't look anything like that. Yeah. People in the chat are saying that's crazy glaze. He's not even top 50. You, sir, need to watch more basketball games.

Next Headline Diagello Russell reportedly rubbed several teammates the wrong way with his approach and practice

and lack of desical effort on defense Dude Delo is hilarious bruh I can't believe this Ah bad I mean

This is pretty much Who the hell he is Rubbed teammates The wrong way is fucking hilarious There's so many clips That came out Over the last few months

Dating back to him During the summer Talking about How he was excited To play with guys like Clay Thompson. He was like, yeah, bro, I'm in a gym telling Clay, yo, I'm gonna find you BV before you even though you're open, bro.

Ain't none of that shit happening right now, bro. Of course, he's been decent as a late, only because positionally he's what they need, point guard. But overall, it's a complete shit show. Real quick, someone in the chat said, Mo, when are you breaking out the TD3 quartersip? It's time for

us to level up and mature? Listen, we have a new winter drop happening soon. And I will say, you will just have to simply sit down and stay tuned I wonder I gotta see if a fourth wall has a quarter zip that'd be hilarious

with the little crayon zipper I think they probably do have a quarter zip on there I'm actually looking to this Toma right that now recipes yeah a crown on the zipper is awesome that's OD man

crayon zipper is ridiculous swagger is OD man but yeah just a funny hate and ass headline he rubs teammates the wrong way from Dallas Hoop General that is not a like reputable platform. I don't think. I don't know what that is. But it was just funny to see that

negative-ass headline. Because we also have another negative-ass headline from Tim Bond-Tamps, who is, I think, obviously, more credible than whatever that was. NBA teams are not lining up to trade for Anthony Davis per Tim Bon-Tips. He said, I shouldn't say it's not going to happen, but you talk to people in the league. There's not a lot of teams that are lining up to take on 35-Rod Anthony Davis making $63 million, and you have to assume he's going to opt into that deal. And he didn't say this in this quote, but also have to assume he wants a fat-ass extension on top of that. Yeah. If, one, if you are, if I'm running a team and I trade for you and you ask for the extension,

no. And I'm not, I'm not going to give you the extension, therefore I would not trade for you. And I do think that you have to be a very desperate team to trade for AD at this point. I agree. That's why it seemed like it's going to be the New York Knicks trading Carthetowns, ran into David straight up because Carin Towns is scoring like shit. AD is what they need defensively to hide Jail him Brunson. they're going to put it all together

and he's gonna try win you a championship for New York I keep on telling you this and you keep on declining I'm trying to give you your medicine early but you're waiting so you get a fever down the ground I might listen to you because for years

before the cat trade you were saying you were like yeah cats's gonna get traded I was like no way they wouldn't do that and then boom it happened so I might just have to live with that I wouldn't okay my back go no go for it

tell me what you think about that I wouldn't on court would not hate it. It's beautiful on the court. I know. I wouldn't I hate it. It is A.D. and O.G. together defensively? A.D. O.G. McHale and Brunton just getting all the buckets. Like, that's

it is length. It is everything around that size, bro. That I am nervous about because it once again takes this team that is as all in as you can be. It puts them even further all in and makes it so that this year

has to be the year that you win a title. Because, and we've gone over plenty of times, but over the last five years, A.D. has not played over 60 games many times. He's had one year where it looked, where everything came together, the injuries were fine. After that, he's been out and he's been injured. And I would hate, it would, it would genuinely, genuinely rock me for decades. If we, if the one time that the Knicks had an opportunity to win the Eastern Conference with the current team constructed and they try. traded for AD and we do not get to the conference finals, it would shake me to my core if they messed up an opportunity like that. And I feel like everybody else in the, in the org has to have some sense of that of like. So you'd rather just like go out like a coward and not roll all in. You've already like traded all your picks. You go out like a coward. Like if you're going to lose, at least lose with some dignity and respect. Like if you were to go ahead and trade for

AD, everyone would understand why on the. Okay. Now what happens? What happens in the. the situation that we trade for AD and the same thing that happened in Dallas happens there where trade for it and media gets going. It's like, you know, actually, AD, he's not such and such, but he's no scrub. He can come out here. He can still play. Boom. First half dominates 2412.

And he was like, look at, look at AD. The Knicks are going to go to the finals. Third quarter goes up for a rebound, boom, gets hurt. Now, now what happens if AD gets hurt in the first half of a game, the same way that he did in Dallas and everything is done. You would come up here and you both would point and laugh me out of this chair and guess what? Yes, I would do

that with quickness. You would not hear the end of it, bro. But also, you have to be real with yourself too. You're going to fucking lose regardless. Yeah, I would laugh at you that happened just because that would be highly unfortunate and like I'd be like, how you deserve it? It'd be funny. Yeah. That's just because. What I do? Nothing, but like it would just be funny. It would just be like bantered. But I'm also going to laugh

to you when Jalen Duren puts his nuts in cat's face and beats them in five. You're going to lose regardless. How do you want to lose that, actually? I would have, like, I'd feel sorry for you if AD got hurt. If Kat gets done up by Jalen Durn in a seven game series, I won't feel sorry if I'll just laugh the whole time. There would be no baked in out. At least with AD, and you want to go down with Kat? It's not like your favorite person in the world. Yeah, exactly. With AD, like, at least you can imagine a world in where like you guys do the thing, make it to the Eastern Conference finals and actually get over that hump and make the finals because the fit on

papers and saying you don't envision that world being real at least winning the finals with someone like that so in all seriousness should they actually do this like i don't even know like that's such an interesting like gamble on like whether or not you're going all in on the downside potentially of the injury but that is obviously a better fit for everything we talked about forever with brunson and cat like if you're the gym would you consider that like what would so obviously you would what would you have to see to consider that i think that you would one obviously you are going to consider it two i think we would have to we have to get to the first benchmark of the year we have to get to christmas okay and see how cat is performing even then

and see if it's more than than just like a super slow start to the year because yeah are you concerned about that a little bit um i got concerned three games in and and really before that because he had the the quote of saying i don't really know where my role is and i was like hey you've This isn't year one. You've been here all off-season. You've worked with Mike Brown the entire off-season. Why do you not know kind of where you even think that you're going to get your game off? We need to fix that.

That should be better. Two, also for that reason, that's a lot of moving parts. If you bring him, if you fire tips, bring him Mike Brown to coach this team around Brunton and Kat and the midway through the season, trade Kat to go bring in a dean. I have it's easy to see it It feels like You're being real busy

I mean that's what they are Like they've been busy Over the last few years Whether it be the Macau Bridges Ogenre and O'Donobie Doing the big thing And trading for Josh Hart and all that

Like they've been on the go And on the because they know Every single year Like the East has been getting weaker and weaker and weaker And while they've been Shurring things up Sacrificing draft picks

Sacrific young players And whatnot For this moment right here and i think a d is like the ultimate chess piece to potentially move you guys over now going back to what you said like what would you need to see i need like 10 games a healthy a ed and you got me sold it'd be really easy to imagine a scenario where we look up and we they do that right they trade for him on january 15th and it goes down and then it doesn't go well in the playoffs for whether it be injuries or lack of depth whatever whatever the issue is and we look up when we say

they probably made one too many trades you know at one point they had heartenstein randled evinchenzo they're so deep they came making trade after trade consolidation after consolidation and every step along the way we said that's smart that's smart that's more that's more but cumulatively it was just one too many moves one too many new pieces and now we're like oh fuck they traded all their picks oh anthony davis is cook forever like yeah it's really easy to imagine how that completely implodes and everything that seems smart on paper ends up coming to bite because there's one thing goes wrong and the whole tower falls apart and i don't i i guess at this point i'm kind of split on it because i don't want the to be cooked and I don't want the first successful era of Nick's basketball in, you know,

however long to be over and done with like that, especially if something unfortunate happens to AD, which the way that they're talking about, they're like, his cap is about to blow off. So I have no idea, like what they're, what they're going to do. But there is, like you keep saying, there is a sense of, as long as we go down swinging, you can respect that a little bit more. but I also don't know Do the Mas even fucking want Kat for AD straight up?

I assume they'd want some kind of asset along with that unless they view CAD is a better asset than AD which the injury thing makes it muddied up but I don't know if that's the case. I think for the sake of just having solid center play for the next, I don't know, minimum like two, three years obviously be more than that.

I think knowing that you have that alongside Cooper Flag that'll help speed up his development and make his process so much easier. You have a center for at least like the next few years to help grow with Cooper flag and make his life easier. So that's the value. That's the only revival. You're not going to get like any real assets for Anthony Davis at this point in time.

No team's going to give you a young promising player. If you're saying, you know what? We are trading Anthony Davis. Please bring me your best offers. What do you expect to hear back? No clue. You're the least respected team in the NBA. Why would I give you something respectable?

It's so hard to say right now because right now, Because right now the offers are nothing. Nobody's making an offer today. You know, if they announce today, he's for trade, they will get zero offers because teams will say, I got to see him play. So it's really what the offers look like in February, and we have no clue. If it looks like this still and he's not playing, then he won't be traded because nobody fucking wants him. But if he has, I don't know, play 75% of the games until then, like, is relatively healthy. It'll probably be, like, way more respectable than we think.

Yeah. But there's like, it's purely on what happens now in February. I don't think there's any real way to know. No, see, it's easy to assume would go poorly because it has been poorly recently. So maybe it's a bet nobody's really going to end up wanting. So the Knicks have their own 2026 pick, 2028 pick, but it's like has so many nasty protections on it. But realistically speaking, they have the 2030 and 2032.

All the rest in between that, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2031, shit all gone. Yeah. So at this point, it's like, why not just unload your clip? I'm not saying they have to send like multiple picks, but you can give up another pick. Like, who cares at that point? Yeah, I thought it was in about more so wanted to trade,

like Josh Hart's salary or something. for a better player there offensively or something rather than an AD trade. Shout out to Phil McRavis for donating $1. He said, would you rather have Jailen Brunson or Prime and Manor Moudier leave your franchise? A lead your franchise, obviously Moodye. And shout out to Dark Lobsterver tipping $5.

He said, can Kinket can get A.D. out, Cream Cat? Probably. Next headline. Jalen Brown admits he thought about leaving the Celtics, but Tracy McGrady convinced him to stay. So Tracy McGrady is the reason why we have a Celtics room. Interesting.

interesting part is that he considered leaving the Celtics because there was all those years in the same stream he talked about how the Miami series when he got his handle exposed in I think 2023 it was completely broken every year but yeah there's a one series though where Gabe Vincent was there gave Vincent Max Drew

and had that crazy role player run with Jimmy's last finals push that they put Stanley Brown in a fucking blender his handle was getting exposed left and right it was crazy how many times they ripped him he said that shit had him in the gutter he said he was in a dark place after that series he saw the tweets, I was sure.

Like, interesting that he considered leaving the Celtics. Because, you know, we always had to smoke for so many years of like, does Jaylon Brown not want to be the sidekick to Jason Tatum? And all the Celtics fans were like, leave them alone. None of that's true. He never said that. And maybe it wasn't actually not wanting to be a psychic. But interesting to hear that there was a thought of like,

maybe I shouldn't be here anymore. Which is interesting because it's not like, like being on the Celtics or being Jason Tatum, that doesn't help your hand. like you can win anywhere else and you still wouldn't have had a left hand in that moment and so like it's funny that that would have been the first uh the first thing but it is fair if you are like if you're looking at at him and tatum and especially in the way that the NBA works right now where people really get three years in an era and if you don't get to the finals or get to

a conference championship you're not like you're just not going to stay together and they've played they had played together going into 23 they had played together for five years at this point been to a couple of conference finals hadn't gone over to hunt been to a finals and it just didn't work out so i do think that sometimes the grass is not always greener and for his sake i i do like the fact that he kind of understood that and then decided to stay with with the Celtics yeah it's interesting that he had the thought and was like nah let me relax because sometimes players don't and you get a Kyrie situation where they leave and they're like fuck me but i shouldn't have done that i sense another situation similar to this looming very soon and it is also in that

conference and we have also seen before in the past uh seen where this player or is his representation requested trade that's either going to be someone like darius garland or donovan mitchell oh they only have so many more years left of not making the eastern conference finals and not making the finals I think, honestly, this is probably the last year was going to happen. Well, it's funny you say that. That is literally the same situation because last summer we had a report

that Darius Garland Loki wants to trade and now he swears he never wanted to trade but that report did exist via Shams Sharania who clearly got that from a certain agent, I'm sure. So that was conveyed in a not so subtle fashion and then they have a season where they have a new coach and it clicks beautifully and all of a sudden oh, we can exist together.

This is actually a great fit. And Donovan Mitchell defers to Darius Garland and we get a magical season where you get 64 wins. then he won the championship obviously but that is almost like an exact situation like exact same spot also shout out to Chase McGready because this is very

clearly like bro I was playing with bums I promise you stay where you're at please don't go stay stay it is so much more fun to play with good players than to be giving up three one leads in the first round does he don't have a ring who TMAC well 2014 I think he technically

got one no no he didn't get one because teamack came into playoffs and you have to be in the regular season well I need at least like I need whatever low tier role players, all three of them to give their ring to Jambaugh or to Team Mac because they don't deserve it. Team Mac did more for that team than you did. Okay.

I'll do the chat for a second. We have a tweet given us a reason why Steph Curry reportedly left Under Armour apparently he reportedly frustrated that Under Armour couldn't land Caitlin Clark and felt they didn't invest in his brand enough. Interesting. I wonder what he means,

by not investing in his brand enough. Because isn't that like their entire basketball operation is his brand? Essentially, but also that may not, like Under Armour doesn't feel like a like a basketball brand. And so it wouldn't, it wouldn't shock me if they didn't do anything to really push Under Armour. And had they invested more, they probably could have got some better designers. For years, almost a decade, you had some terrible shoes. And they probably could have got that. Also, I'm sure not landing Caitlin Clark is like, hey, if we ever want to push it.

this now would be the time and the deal that she got from from Nike wasn't even like it was eight it was reported I think it was eight years 28 million well did the numbers are public for that I yeah I saw I saw I saw a tweet but I think that's what it was yeah the numbers you know me I saw a tweet you had big bowl letters you got me I saw IG graphic big white letters you got me say cheese TV I don't want to say it I understand, I understand, Curry. This is like true. Stay off from Taylor Clark, $100 million.

She turned it down. I don't know, man. I took the streets to say. Who are the athletes signed under, under armor that like are related to Curry's brain? I don't know. I think it's just, just Deerun Fox and asked it.

Yeah, like he should have left years ago, bray. That is damning. The Sacramento Kings are reportedly willing to trade anyone on their roster, except for Keegan Murray and Neat Clifford Terry Declifford Untouchable acid

Hell yeah I'm like dying to see this team blow it up out of like I don't want to watch this roster anymore and when I watch my obligatory Kings games I'll be very happy when it doesn't have this combination of players But man have I ever seen A more dreadful list of assets to sell off What the fuck are you getting for DeMardon Rosen

What the hell are you getting for DeMonton Sabonis Malik Mung Russell Westbrook This is going to be the most underwhelming sell-off ever. This is a nasty fire sell bro. They're going to be selling them out of the streets man at this point in time because who is trading for DeMarra Rosen? You know what this is? This isn't even a sell-off.

This is a collection of salary dumps. They're going to trade all their picks and salary dump all these people. Yeah, I kind of want, I want them to blow it up but also I want them to just get terrible value for everybody. I want to see how bad the rebuild can go.

And they somehow draft like the only bad player in the lottery this next year. They draft wherever the next t john salon is like let's trade how many was that one two three four five and even russal he's not getting anything so you got five players your whole starting five and if you realize all the whole starting five if you trade if you trade like you're you're starting five and you get like two first round picks back oh man that's stinky because like i'm personally i'm not giving up more than one first round pick for subon You know this is funny.

It says except for Keegan Murray, who's like 25 now. He has the most 30 value. And like, if you keep Keegan Murray, what the fuck are you going to do with him? I don't even know, because he's, I don't know if he's overpaid or not. It's weird. He's not cheap. But like, even if you keep him and you have this terrible team that you're going to rebuild with, what the fuck are you doing?

Keegan Murray and he clipper leading your team. Like, he's old enough that I feel like you might as well trade him too. What happened to venture leadership? From Keegan Murray? Yeah. I'd like, been the league for three years. I don't know if I'm a veteran. He's old, Ricky.

Yeah. I mean, but he's also had the age in dog years just being out there So he's seen so much Exactly It's really like seven years of NBA experience Like if you trade Zach Levina DeMonte Sabonis and Keon Ellis

And you're like full on rebuilding Like tearing it down to the studs And being a wizard's rebuild with no good players Why the hell would you keep Keegan Murray there When it's gonna be three years before you're somewhat relevant again At least I'm like I guess you can have Keegan Murray when he's 28 And like never mind I guess it's fine

But you said what? At least how long At least three At least seven Jeez, man You might as well get two firsts on pictures Keegan Murray They said they got negative motion Exactly

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It hasn't been a while We saw her name pop up Philly loving ginger It's been too long since I said that username shout out I missed you a lot Thanks I missed you a talk

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And shout out to die For tipping $10 he said Unrelated to the Kings But how do you guys feel about AD to the heat Feel like people forget Bam AD was a disgusting Front Court in the Olympics

And would be the best front court In the league At least defensively I wouldn't hate that I guess If any team wasn't taken With a gamble on him I don't know what the salary would look like

to make that happen. You don't want to trade. No, I'm not trying to tell the hero for it. Yeah, it's like, what the fuck? But then again,

I'm not the biggest Tyler Hero guy. So, like, if they did, I was like, I live, but ideally I'm all three of them. That's, you know,

a bam out of bi, Norm Powell, an AD big three. It's kind of filthy. But not, not in a meaningful way to, like, win a championship brand thing,

but that, that fit is kind of nice. Trading a hero for AD at this point? No. That just sounds like bad process. And they wouldn't, They wouldn't trade hero. So I don't know what the other money is in there because obviously it wouldn't be a hero.

But I don't, I don't dislike the idea of Bamin A.D. Trade in Norm Powell? No. Honestly? I mean, why not? I guess if you really want to.

I think I would. I'd be open to it. I don't think he has the money. That's what I'm saying. Nah. Like he's going to be a free agent. Yeah. Not the worst idea in the world die.

Yeah. I love Colin Knievel. It's time I come forward with my truth. I love this white boy. He is dangerous. In the last four games, he has 28 points, 26 points, 28 points, 24 points. This is not a normal rookie.

I agree. This white boy is dangerous, and I think this is clearly an all-star. I think he has definitely, like, that potential for sure. I love, one of my favorite things to do is see college players who are, like, super cooped up into their corner, literally in the corner in college, where they're playing with a bunch of other star players. He played with, of course, like Cooper Flagg, Moloos, and they had other, like, primary ball handlers who would, they just wouldn't actually rather prioritize. And I love seeing guys like him just sprout up out of nowhere the last time or one of the last times in recentish NBA history when this happened is someone like Devin Bucker who played

with his nothing but star-statted guys and he just put the balls in a little bit more and he's able to do damn near everything on the court. Kahn is doing the same thing. He's, bro, he's spectacular all around. Damn near on all three levels. Great body controlled. He's fucking sound when it comes to his ability to finish at the fucking pain. he's just

Connor's a good guy man good guy he plays the game the right way and I like it we said or I said on our hot takes episode that by the end

of next year Con is going to be the best player on the Hornets I can say that right now he's the best player on the Hornets

fuck it he's he's number one and his success and his rise and the fact that he has been able to establish himself so quickly

if I would if I were the Hornets front office I would feel so much peace about it Because now it allows me to go into conversations around Lamello, around Brandon Miller, with a little bit more of a clear head and not thinking of them as like, you know, saving graces of just these are the players that we have. Do we think that they're going to contribute to winning or not? And we can look at them in an honest way.

And if you feel like you have to move off of Brandon Miller just because he hasn't been healthy enough for you, again, not his fault, but that's just the reality. and then with Lamello, we can trade him. Let's do it. I don't think you can move on Brandon Miller. That's a little hasty. Just, just. Brandon Miller needs a little, needs more time. Yeah,

there's more than Lamello. There's no moving on. But I do agree with you. I am focusing on Khan. Khan is the face of my franchise. I'm building around you. I draft another point card. Can I get a second round pig for Salon right now?

No. No. I wouldn't give you a ham sandwich for salon. What are you talking about? I'm trying to recoup any assets I can. That was a miss. I get this, buddy. That was a miss.

Man, I give you knuckles. Shout out to I have avocado for $15. Appreciate you. I'm noticing the link is working again. The past couple of streams I've been saying the link wasn't working to donate. I didn't do anything about it because I keep forgetting. Shout out that working again. But yeah, listen, last 15 games, 20 points per game,

59% from 2, 42% from 3. The question is not, is this a good player? Is this a good shooter? Is this a good score outside of the 3? All that is clear. I'm wondering what the scoring ceiling is now. Because, like, obviously, the athletic limitations are the athletic limitations. He's not, like, the fastest guy, the burstiest guy or anything.

Can you score in this way and get to, like, 25 plus points per game? I can't wait to find out. I think you, I think you can't. I can't wait to find out either way. Like we always say, when you are fundamental and you play the game the right way. And you're just such a, such a smart, you know, such a smart player. And you understand the game. When that happens, yes, you can score 25.

Is this Paul Pierce? Yes or no. 25 is a lot. Yeah, why not? If he does this, he. If he gets to 25, he has to do some, like, shameless stuff on the court. I don't think so. I don't think so, yeah.

Well, do you think Clay Thompson could average 25 in his prime? Yes. Then there's no reason Con can't. Obviously, a different type of player. Not going to say Clay Thompson this year, but, like, in terms of that style of play of QuickTugar 3s, he can do more slashing than Clay ever did. So if you think Clay could do, I think he could probably do it. Which is going to 25 these days isn't what it once was.

So let me not, like, say the 25, like, it's some insane thing to finish these days. But that's honestly Perfectly fine Like I don't think he's ever gonna be one of like the four best scores in the in the in the way who are averaging 28 30 33 right like that's not gonna happen 25 is a very respectable Oh Denny's averaging like 26 or something like that He's a free throw merchant I don't know if Colin didn't be that level of free throw merchant I think if he can get to the line right now he goes to the line like three times a game

I think he'd make that like six three's not too bad for a rookie Yeah yeah I'm very I'm I can't wait to monitor the ceiling of con like we knew he'd be good we knew he was one of the highest floor rookies in this class but there was at least two superstars up top in Flag and Harper so I think we probably under talked about like the star potential

of Khan which I don't even know it's not even no one really thought that he had this level of potential yeah because like why would we right like it wasn't really like foreseen like people were there's some people that were like listen don't sleep that's going to be the best point in class and whatnot like that existed but I didn't really feel like we overlooked him this is just a stunning development that

I'm curious to see where it's going to go. This is a humongous blessing for the Hornets organization, man. After all the instability that they have, all the incompetency that they show through the draft, through the Mello and all that, and Brandon Miller just not being there, too, reckless injuries happening to the guys like Brant Williams, Miles Bridges is still, like, existing on your team too. This is what they needed. Connors on your team, that's some healing, man.

And also, what's funny is they tried to get Dulton Connect last year's draft. They ended up picking a salon over him And then obviously Lakers took him And they tried to trade for Dalton Connect Later that season This is Dalton Connect The Dalton Connect was good And was physical

And like was the ideal version Dalton Connect While being three years younger This is the exact play style they wanted And they saw the vision with that one Found the better white boy And he's a million times better That is hilarious

And I'm stuck with the other one That didn't work out He is the most unphysical defender I've ever seen in my life Really? He's so bad on defense Like the off ball awareness I'm like I can see in your eyes

And you don't know what you're looking at Like that is a dearer to headlights And he moves around on defense You deserve this And like he doesn't move side to side As a driver he's so stiff Like he's not good Did you know that the league is after

Yeah That was a fun bit well lasted Too bad the guy sucks Irony I love it What else is next What else is on here? Oh Flag Harbor

Edgecombs where people say, oh yeah. What in terms of the rookie the race? Yeah. Flag has been much

better as a way. Do you say because there's two like clear superstars than Flagg and Harper? Oh yeah, I didn't count

VJ as like a clear superstar. Obviously he has that potential but like those two top guys were like the two top guys. And yeah, even VJ adds to that

why we didn't talk about Conccanipal Star selling as much. And also at this point I mean, Derek Queen. Mm-hmm. Also, this is a good ass

draft class. Yeah. Dude, that last draft class had us in hell, man. the Toronto Raptors have won seven straight games their longest win streak since 2022

you keep saying this they're a good team no they are I just want to antagonize I know they're the most easy to antagonize fan base on the world nobody ever nobody in the fucking planet has a bigger chip on their shoulder than a Toronto Raptors fan

call me when you win 15 in a row then I'll pay attention now granted look at the teams they've beaten nets, wizards 76ers hornets pacer's good calves win nets don't give a damn not a murderer's role of opponents by any means but they're playing good ass basketball

their defense was so rough the first five games that I was worried they've largely got it together they look like a well coach team again this whole darko style they brought in last year with this very free flowing offense that does some similar stuff to what Spoh does in terms of like really really spreading the ball out

and having a lot of people attacking closeouts and doing a lot of motion it's working these big fours attacking the pain is working this is exactly what we thought could happen when you actually get a legitimate score. Like having people play out outside of their position, especially when you're like rebuilding or retooling,

it really can shift a lot of how you view a player. And so, yes, I do have to start recalculating my Scotty Barnes takes, right? You do have to do that because he has. Welcome back to the agenda. Because he has, he has been better. Also, I still. I'm always going to hate on them just because you put them

above Brunson that one time so like there is that. Brunson got better, okay? But it's a different bruns in these days. But this is like they're just, they're ultra solid. And I think like we knew we knew that one team in the East

was going to also jump up and take advantage of a very soft conference. They are very clearly doing it. So I don't even care. They could have played the net seven times in a row. You got to win seven games in a row to do it and that still takes like some type of competency so shout out to them for doing that yeah i don't remember why i had them in my um season

predictions list at all low but i do remember after that being like you know what i think like when it comes to having two teams in both conferences where i'm kind of buying in on super low the suns in the west the team for me was definitely the toronto raptors after that predictions episode i did feel like this team had potential to be like at best case scenario a fucking fifth seed if everything went perfectly with him if brandy ingram was the higher team store score that we all know that he can be now he is shooting like 29% of the three point line but need this needless to say like that hasn't been necessarily that hasn't been needed to be a part of his game just yet and scotty barnes just like being fully unleashed as like the ultimate Swiss army knife type guy I mentioned

raptors fans being the most insecure I see someone in chat right now saying crazy the praise the raptors are getting when heat get trashed we're doing the same thing I'm sick who is trashed in the for having a new offense. All everybody's saying is it's good and it's like cool to see. Who's saying the heat should be slandered? They're saying that. The saying Emmanuel quickly needs his apology.

Yeah, calm down. I'm not apologizing to say Emmanuel quickly. He's doing this job. What do you mean? Congrats on playing good. For the first time in years, they gave you a contract for no reason. Not even no reason.

Like it was like, what we liked it at the time. We were like, okay, take a bet on a guy who you was your guy. And he proceeded to be bad. Congrats for doing what you should do. Yeah, what do you mean? Yeah, nobody ever said, I mean, you quickly could never be good. Now, he did say, Mo explicitly was hating on the heat. I did absolutely say that.

I was hating for no reason. Yeah, Mo hasn't stopped hating on the heat. Yeah, he doesn't count. Yeah. Mo just decided. He hates the heat. Yeah, they were in the team I was saying, no, for that. He just decided one day.

Exactly. It's just fucking. I just said it wasn't sustainable. Apologized to Jamison battle. Absolutely not. That's the comments back. Every time it's a conference section that you don't love someone's team. That's like the funniest thing about making sports content of any sort.

is that there's always so many in the comment section saying, apologize to my team because you didn't say we're winning the finals this year. That's funny. I wonder what other forms of content creation are like in that regard. Like, in sports specifically, you won't, just impossible to please everybody, you know, because you can only say one team is going to win a game.

So, like, there's always many people that say, you're the devil, you're going to hell because you don't think my team is the best. Like, I do. I wonder of, like, hip-hop creators are, like, I don't know. Oh, man, yeah. Do food vloggers have the same stuff? of his experience.

Yo, what's the beef and the food blogging scene? Then we got like Portillo's fans versus Portillo's haters. Yeah. I wonder what the built in haters are for other content creations.

I know back in the day it used to be Xbox versus PlayStation. You were way long ago. You were so unk for saying that. Wait, I mean, man. Hey, man. For a second, I was on Team Xbox and then I got converted over

once I found out that. I can play online for the free. He said, you better apologize. steam casserole right now apologize to Popeye Jones Popeye Jones get out of my face okay

that is the end of all the news stories they have on here today but before we're not done with the stream though Thanksgiving is three days from now we're recording this the stream is on Monday November 24th in honor of Thanksgiving I want to sit down and pick 10 things in the NBA that we're thankful

for I'll get my list chat while we're doing this I want you guys to spam up things you're thankful for in the NBA. I will go first and we'll take turns going by one. First thing that I'm thankful for, Nico Harrison's ego. I don't know where I would be without my sweet Luca Donchage in my life. And every day I wake up, I look at the TV, I see SportsCenter on, and I remember Luca Donchens as a Laker. And I think I'm going to make a mural in my room to Nico Harrison. I got to light the candles, like the Catholic Mexicans and

like put it up my doorstep because I got to praise Nico Harrison every day. You've been a high five, Luca, every day. You're crazy. Oh my gosh. You go, you died. You may have died for your sins, but you have always blessed my life. Speaking about bless and lives, man. Let me get this out the way to Joe Dumars has done wonders in me.

It's from my life personally, man. Again, I keep on saying this, not only giving us one potential lottery pick in their own, but two lottery picks. And so giving us the rights to Milwaukee's best first round pick two or best pick this this or next offseason has been amazing for me because Milwaukee's sliding their ass and the the pelicans have been ass all year long bro and you guys know out of all of us all of our organizations all of our franchises i am in the most need for some type of positivity shining on my face bro he brought it to me do you have a stupid as to you end to be thankful for

actually don't unbelievable yeah i actually don't i'm unbelievable i'm sorry i'm sorry don't but What I am thankful for, obviously, Jena Brunson, my captain. And then I am very thankful for the Wizards. You've always given me wins whenever I needed it. Always there. Whenever we're down on our luck, we can always go to Washington, get ourselves a dub. So thank you to the Washington Wizards for being the incompetent team that you are. Thank you to Shay Gilles, Alexander, for winning the championship last year.

If you didn't, I would have got slendered relentlessly for being super loud about the fact they were going to win. doubling down, tripling down, quadrupling down, about five times over. Thank you for getting the job done and not blowing it in the game seven of the finals. I would have a bad summer. I would like to give my next thank you. To the NBA specifically, thank you for changing the half-court heave rule. Not counting, missed heaves has made the league so much more fun because everyone is trying to make half-core threes, full-core threes. Oh, you're a dork for real.

That's a real NBA sick-out thing to say. I love it, bro. These players used to care about their three-point percentages. And trust me, there are still dummies out there in the league currently. You don't know that rule change. It still don't go ahead and throw it up. But for the ones who have, it's more points on the board, more buckets. I will say the longer we've gone on with the rule, I have turned to the other side and just

been like, man, y'all are soft for caring about that. Like that's kind of crazy. Thank you. Also, just to the NBA in general, I'm glad that we have this league, you know, the game of basketball so that so that i can have fire edits on ticot because these guys are working man this is this is awesome i can i can watch an edit of any player instantly my favorite player thank you to the guy who made that creed remix of the kendrick song for getting all the creed edits out there with the nba stuff you're going to work if you've made a love me edit in the past week

i've watched it i've consumed it i can't get enough i'm thankful the kawai linder did not choose the lakers i'm thankful that i don't have to be the fan base praying for kawai Kaui Leonard's needs to work. I'm thankful that him choosing the clippers led to them being miserable for five years. That's been real fun. I'm thankful that him choosing the clippers led to Shea going to OKC and them putting together an amazing team to watch me to be a fan of. That's been fun.

Everything good in my life has completely started with Kauai Leonard looking at LeBron and saying, I don't want to play with you. That's amazing, man. That's amazing. I am thankful for experiencing. He doesn't do it anymore, but Woage, bro. We got to experience the Wolge era over the last, I don't know what. 15, 16 years or so, and now these days we have a bunch of solid reporters, but nothing

will ever, ever compared to Woolj bombs. Have you seen the conspiracy theories? What is it? They're saying that NBA Centel is actually Woj's. Oh, my God. No, no, no. They're also saying the stream started 67 minutes ago. Are they?

Yep. As far as you can't right now. Do it. I can't. I thought about it. I am. unlike some other people in the world I'm actually very thankful

for the Europeans in the NBA okay you've taught me geography I would have never know about Serbia Slovenia Lithuania all of them over there all the balking countries I have a new appreciation for your country and just a general sense of where you are on the map

I would have never known that without your six seven wings your seven footers Thank you to the year. I'm not going to lie. You say that? It's real. Do you say that?

Put a gun in the back of my head, tell me to spot five balking countries on the map, I'm dead. I still can't do it. But I can still be like, okay, kind of over there.

You have a general sense of region now. No, you've heard the names. I know for a fact you can't put Serbia on a map. But that's not important. At least he knows their existence now. Okay.

Maybe I might have gone 20 more years without thinking about Lithuania once, if not for Christos Perzincis. Exactly. Chrisops,

thank you, man. I'm not going to lie, because he got drafted in 2015, 16, wherever that was. I don't know if I was even knowledgeable that Lithuania was a country. I don't think I know anything about Lithuania besides the fact that Christophersingis was from there and got beat up on the street there once. I couldn't tell you two things about them other than the color of their flag. It's like yellow and like a maroon. Okay. Yeah.

I know that. Oh, we some Lavia, not Lithuania. Fuck, I got it wrong. See, I don't know shit about Lithuania. Even then. Yonis Valentunis. Now look at that. Two countries that we just got hit to because of the Europeans in the Mian.

Shout out to them. Shout out to them. I don't know shit about Eastern Europe. Is it Eastern Europe? I think it's Eastern. I don't ask me. No, yeah, because Western Europe is like London. Notice how I just said the Europeans.

I like that. Also, I know of Lithu- and here's the, you said that the reason why I know about Lithuania also Big Sean has a song called Lit Ewania. Oh my God. Kill him. It's him and Travis Scott on it. Not bad.

Ew. Someone said you guys' American education really shows facts. But then again, I've learned 50 states. I can't imagine also having to learn that many countries. Why would I need to learn about Lafia school? Yes. And people have also made this point before.

Everybody over there, y'all be going on a holiday and think that is cool. everything is like two hours away we can you can drive for 11 hours never leave texas right it is so much easier to have access to all these other countries i'm sure you do have a better sense of where you of where you are

if instead of just being in the middle of like a desert or just cornfields for hours y'all haven't been down here i think me learning about Maryland is the same thing I started from the UK learning about lithuania if they knew how much pride Texans have like that's a country

it'll drive crazy man I don't understand it. Okay. That's funny, bad. Next one. I don't even know it's my turn anymore. I got one. Go for it.

I am thankful for Sam Presti being the repo man of the NBA currently because he's forcing every single team to be on their peas and cues. Shit, bro, you don't know this. I don't know this shit. Like, bro, the other day I got an email, it was fishy, it was scammy. It said Sam Presti in there. It was just some random other NBA thing, but I thought I owed him a first round pick, bro. I'm scared for my life sometimes.

You might owe him a first-round pin. Someone said Norwegians use Texas as a hyper as a hyperbole like, like Yucatan. What? He shot that shit from Texas. What does a Norwegian accent sound like? I don't know. I'm not even going to try it. I wanted to beat you to try.

Imagine that shot that shit from Texas. He shot that shit from Tomball, man. And it's actually really cool. That's crazy. I am thankful for Joe Missoula for being batshit insane and giving me lots of funny memories to laugh at. That man is a madman and is a madman and is. left to nothing but good things for me. That is true.

Shout out, Missoula. Also, in the same way, and this is why they're on the same list, the same way that the Europeans have put me on to some geography, shout out to the small markets in the NBA for giving me a glimpse into what your culture is like. I would never, ever visit Sacramento, but I feel like I kind of know what the city's like because of Kings fans. You guys are, hey, tell me what number eight says, what I wrote down.

Number eight says that I wasn't born in Sacramento. I think God I'm not a Kings fan I would never ever I'm gonna pick out 10 separate religious deities and thank them all that I'm not from Sacramento

I thank God that I was born in Los Angeles and not Sacramento every day I'm like fuck I could have been a Kings fan if shit would have broke differently I could have been a Kings fan and that would have been the worst path

I could have went in life you know those memes was like the baby and he's like I hope I get born to something good and then the next one comes out just like damn I'm Colleen. Man, Sacramento.

Sacramento, Sacramento. All I know about them is watching Lady Bird and the Kings. Okay, I think I have one more. I got several more. Listen. I'm thankful to be born at the same time as Victor Woman Yama. Glaze, continue. I'm thankful to be born at the same time as Victory Woman Yama.

This is a god amongst men. I'm so glad I get to see the prime. I am glad. Very thankful for the NBA Unks took a Continue unking James Harden, drop in 55. You got CP3 just making an appearance. Steph Curry being like 37 years old, putting up like 27 a game still. We don't get this no more.

This is like the last ounce of my childhood that I'm holding on to when they're gone. Is that Killeen mentioned? I went to high school in Kaleen. That's why he said that. I was thinking you said Kaleen. I was like, that's the most niche shit ever. Nobody in the chat is going to know what you're talking about. Nobody but me.

That's funny, bro. That's where I'm from in Texas. Never the feel seen for the first time, man. Yeah, we got one Kaleen fan. He's like, what? He's like, oh my God, we made it. Colleen stayed up. I live there from seventh grade to 12th grade.

What else am I thankful for? LeBron James. On the same lines. Steph Curry. Austin Reeves on the same lines. Gotcha. Nice. Guys, we've had beef in the past.

Shout out to my Canadians, man. For what? shout out to them why listen we go back and forth some time you know i'll be i'd be hating on y'all but shout shout to you y'all really do be holding it down shout out to the canadians not even NBA related just shout to canada shout to can you must have got some threats rap before this show what the hell don't oh no i walk untouched in canada don't worry about that sorry not checking in i'm walking out of touch don't don't don't worry about that i'm good oh man

Montreal knows me I'm thankful of Tyreys Halliburton for single-handedly, allowing me to have one of my most cherished memories as an NBA fan, and that's watching him game the Knicks and watching Donovan a meltdown for a week straight. It was melting after a meltdown after meltdown after meltdown. I don't even think I knew that it was possible for one person to melt down that many times

in that consecutive of a fashion, but I got to see it, and I thank Tyre's Halliborne for that. Very true. I am so thankful that I got to witness the last few years of prime Joy and beat as a score, man. That shit has never happened. he ended in and be his school. That's what I actually didn't think before

that like people are going to forget about Joel Embed and his legacy will not be honored. I'm going to make sure I remind people that is one of the best players ever touch of basketball. There was a video posted on Twitter the other day where Joel Embed was just randomly shopping

and Best Buy and people pointed out in the video that he was just limping while he was pushing his car and I'm just like, oh man. Yeah. This is just so sad to see, bro. Put his line out there. Yeah. I am as a,

as somebody who leans towards the hating side, I am very grateful that the NBA allows us to have consistent hate watches. There's games on every single night. There's multiple franchises that I really don't like. And anytime that I want, I can put on a game and hope for somebody to lose. Shout out to the NBA for that. Not even hope. Somebody will lose.

There's also true. There's no ties. It's up to you to decide. Are you happy about it? It's up to you to find the silver lining in every loss and be happy to hate on someone. Shout out. Yeah. Shout out to consistent hate watches.

Like, who lost last night? Who did you hate on last night? Last night, the games were... The Jazz lost to the Lakers. I actually don't hate them. You hate on FEMA High Luke. I don't know why. I just seems something you would do.

The Sixers lost. You get a hate on Paul George. Oh, always fun. Hornets lost. Where do I begin? Can't hit on it. Where did I begin? The Nets lost.

Shout out. Always down to hate on the Nikes. Microford Jr. Clippers lost by 15. Oh, where do we begin? The Magic lost. And that's just on a Sunday. That's on a random Sunday.

Tonight. On the most polite of days. Look at this. Tonight. In 45 minutes, the Knicks and the Knicks and the Let's play. Get to hate on the nets back-to-back days. That's awesome.

The Pistons are playing the Pacers. Don't think I will ever forget about the summer of what? Where are we? A 25? I would never forget about 25 Pacers. I would hate you guys forever. They will lose tonight. Who else is losing?

The Grizzlies, we can hate on Joss some more tonight. The Pelicans, for your sake. We can hate on Jot tonight. He's been on the sidelines. Hit on him because he's on the sidelines. He's happening regardless. Nine o'clock, nightcap. Tim Wolves at Kings.

Get to see the Kings lose again. every night it's just something new. You just get filled with negativity every night, bro. You just get constant doses, constant plates and stuff like that. Hate fed to you. I love that. Also, shout out to the league. Unlimited drama.

There's always something going on. Some people are fake tough guys. People are getting mad. There's always some pettiness. I love that there's always something going on. I'm so thankful for, I hate it, because it makes everyone's life so much more complicated. But I'm so thankful that Amazon, that NBC, and Peacock have rights to the league now because ESPN, they still be on bullshit.

But the product has been slightly better. What's number six, A? Number six says NBC's return to the game. Because that means that to think less about ESPN. That's why it's so great. We've got to finally get some good representation in our media partners. Yes. Fresh breath of air, bro.

Yeah, the NBC theme song have to be thankful for it. That first night, when they brought it back and the music kicked on, you saw the the pre the pre role where they had the narration by bob costas i was like this is what basketball's supposed to be like the feelings restored yeah yes i legitimately got got um got chills yes we finally got like the saying the saying it the saying it was t and t versus that's my favorite same and the whole time it wasn't even iron sharpening iron it was like clay sharpening like plato same thing it's like they're not doing none bro and now we got ESPN getting creative pre and seven it's like coach's corner with Tim Legler.

Brough, come on now. They had to get the month. Oh shit, we got, we've got to get serious for a second. And that's everything I'm thankful for. I have one more. What do you got? The League Fits Instagram page. Shout to you guys.

You got to do. That's good word. All the league fits all stars. I like that. That's cool. It's my favorite Instagram page. Yeah. And that means that that is the end of the stream.

Donovan, can you close it out with your fastest six, seven? Three, two, one. Thank you.