The Deep 3 Podcast - Reacting To The Start of NBA Free Agency! | TD3 Live

Episode Date: July 1, 2024

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Lates already. People are still saying late. I don't know if it's gone through yet. I can't see it on my end, but... We're here. We're here. We are on time. I promise you that.

How are y'all feeling? Feeling good. How are you feeling? Could have better days, but I'm okay. You could have better wins. Is it live? It's not showing for me. I feel like the last week for you was really tough.

I don't know that it's live. Well, if it's not, then that might be an issue. Yeah. Okay. Okay, yeah, it is. We're here. Yeah, anyways. I've been feeling pretty all right, but not really. But let's continue. Please don't focus on me. We're going to get back to you. We're going to get to you pretty soon. Chad, this is the first time you guys are going to see Mr. Mojo since the Dejante Murray trade. So lots to discuss. But the first thing that we have to talk about is the breaking news went on right now. Chris Paul has just been waived by the Golden State Warriors to be an understricted free agent.

Listen, that sentence doesn't move the mountains it once did. in 2021 or previously, but it's a name. It's a move. We're here for the start of agency, moves that to be made. What do you think? It's a transaction, for sure. Correct. By definition. But this is very good, though, because obviously, Chris Paul is going to want to play at least one more year, right? Maybe. We'll see what he wants to do. But there are several teams out there that need a point guard that can go out now and get a veteran point guard who doesn't need to be the number one on your team and can just bring in, obviously, veteran leadership, basketball IQ, and give you some, you know, just a little bit of time on the floor to direct everything.

So there's a couple teams on my list that immediately come to mind. Orlando Magic. Okay. Phoenix Suns. Okay. Right? Those two teams instantly are on the list. The San Antonio Spurs.

Ooh. Okay. Right. All these teams, we know need point guards. Chris Paul now. Go have your meetings. Chat, I see y'all right now in here. You guys are here early.

Spamming absolute bullshit. Keep doing it. Do you? But let us know what you want to see Chris Paul sign. Mix in some Chris Paul predictions with the bullshit and keep doing you. Because, like you said, you named my five teams. I wouldn't be shocked by any of them. You also didn't say the Lakers would not shock me at all because, you know, the LeBron connection.

Yeah. Listen, I will convince myself of many things. I would not convince myself to care about a Chris Paul sign to the Lakers. That's where I draw my line. I want a Clay Thompson. Don't give a fuck about a Chris Paul, but would it surprise you? Surprise me? No.

Chris Paul is the last member of the Banana Boat crew that he has not played with. He's the last Infinity Stone, and I'm sure that LeBron will love to do it. In one season, he could play with his son, complete the Banana Boat quad. Yeah. That would be a great year for him. Yeah. That'd be cool. Sounds like CP3 to Denver, 76ers, Sun, Spurs.

So it's funny because if he goes back, he can't wear the number three. So who wears three? Bradley Beal. Oh, my God, Bradley Beal. Whenever we talk about him, I might just have a sour taste in my mouth. Bradley Beal, I don't care what the number costs. Give me the number. Give me the number.

So does it take his ass to Washington? No. You know where he needs to go? Take him back to Oklahoma. Let him go ahead and come off the bench and be another productive guard who can release some stress here and there from Shay while also mentoring Nicola Tovich. I see that, yeah, Nicole Tobich has a redshirt year.

You have Chris Paul to take that rotation spot for the one year before Tobich comes in. Yeah, I thought you were joking for a second, but I do see the vision. I do see that. Yeah, it's actually very productive. I like it. I mean, he's not world changer,

but having him come off the bench for 15, 10 minutes night or whatever it might be, it's going to be very productive. That's bad. Now, listen, if we're talking mentorship, there's, listen, there's a place where Chris Paul can run the Big Brother, Big Sister program. That's Charlotte. If we're just talking straight mentorship, he can go over there teach some lessons to those guys over there.

Well, listen, we didn't do a proper intro. Like I said, we're here on Sunday, obviously, because today is the first day of NBA-free agency. We're going to be here live reacting to everything going down. I think we'll be live until about 7 Eastern time. But listen, if crazy stuff is going down, we're going to stay on as long as we need to to live react to every single ongoing with you guys. So grab a drink, grab some popcorn, get ready, because this might be a long one if the NBA has an entertainment course. I said grab a drink. Sorry, brother. You're on the wrong path. Look at what we're all wearing right now. Grab your goddamn crayon. Put the solo cam on me. Exactly.

Quickly plug this. We got the crown eater merch. I got the crew neck, you know. It's a nice little snug fit. We got the art of the crayon crew neck. These guys have fresh pack merch. We got the t-shirt on Donovan, the hoodie on Moe. Looking real good. Hit the link. I think it's in the description of this live stream. You guys know what to do. Exactly. Grab your crayon and sit back, crack it open, and let's just go ahead and indulge and eat, bro. Oh, new breaking news. What is it? On our pull-up, Sharm Sharanias, Twitter, James Hardin plans to sign a two-year $70 million contract

to return to Los Angeles Clippers. Two-year $70 million. Wow. Okay. That's a good investment. Not bad. Not a bad deal at all. We could all see it coming.

Because obviously, he wasn't going to go anywhere else. The market for James Harden before he got traded to the Clippers was basically non-existent. This year, after another year of James Hardin, looking exactly who we thought. he was for the last 13 years, right? Specifically, the last three. No, he goes back.

That's fair. Yeah, listen, it's been made clear about about an hour ago. Chris Haynes tweeted, it's looking like Paul George is going to Philadelphia 76ers, despite the rumors of them not being interested. If you're the clippers,

you know you cannot lose both you guys. However you feel about James Hardin, you can't go into a new arena next year with the Kauai Leonard show for the 52 games he'll play, and then Norm Powell and Russell Westbrookin. You've got to prioritize keeping at least one, And there you go.

I'm not going to lie. Losing Paul George hurts. And retrospectively, looking back at the Shea Giggles-S-Alexander trade, of course, we all know with context applied, without trading Shay and all those picks, you're not getting Paul George. It's just not happening. And before that, you're not even getting Kawhi Leonard because that was a must-have. But it hurts. It hurts my soul. Hurts me to the core.

Chat, so for every move we're going to do it, I want you guys to grade it in real-time, chat. So spam the grade for this contract. What do you guys grade it? For the contract, I think it's an A. I think that you don't have too many years attached to James Hardin. The money is not crazy attached to James Hardin. And you get to keep two all-star level players on your eyes. I forgot.

Next podcast episode, we're grading all these moves. So let's not grade it. Chat can grade it right now. We can just talk about it. Let me not spoil the next episode. But yeah, man, it's interesting. Obviously, Rich Paul was like, listen, LeBron don't take less money if you can get James Hardin. Cap?

No, that's not Cap. He would do it. But how the fuck did they get James Hardin? How much less? No, no. He's saying he'll take enough to open up a mid-level exception, which I don't think it's cap at all.

LeBron take $15 million less. Still get his $35 million a year. But you weren't getting James fucking Hardin with that money. That was never happening. If anyone is known to not turn down money, like large lump sums, it's quite literally James Hardin.

There was no way that's happening. He's actually been sacrificing money lately. Oh, that is true, actually. Like, he's actually been low-key doing, even this. I saw a report earlier that James Hardin was thinking about taking less money to allow them to have the taxpayer mid-level exception, it ducks him under the second apron.

This is $35 million. I think that is that. I think he could have got like $45. Good brother. Shout out James Hardin. Good brother. Put it off for the team. He said, there's no eye in team.

We over me. Now, if Paul George signs elsewhere, I'm calling. I'm not signing my deal until we have agreed in principle, right? Sometimes principles have to be broken. And if I find out that Paul George is going elsewhere, run me my money. I'm not doing this, right? James Hardin, like you said,

has over and over taken less money for the good of the team. If I'm James Harder, I'm going up to Steve Balmer. Listen, team? What team? Like, I need all $45 million

if I'm James Hardin. I'm seeing a lot of Bs in the chat. Some A's. It seems like you guys are pretty okay with this deal. And, chat, do you like this because you're losing Paul George,

or could you like James Hardin there? Because that's different. Do you actually like him there? It might be a combination. of both. Yeah. There's no reason not to like James Hardin on the Los Angeles Clippers. There's a lot of reason not to. No, I mean, considering there's a couple. There's a couple,

but whole list is in one. You can't have there's no other players who can replace James Hardin while also having the same type of similar type of success that they had last season. Success meaning is the Clippers standards. Less. You're, I always forget. I'm glad you're, I always forget. I know a Clippers tax. I have to remind you. I have to remind you. Listen, you got three stars there, Clippers tax. That's already

a championship in and of itself. We're entertaining. Some people care. We got, they'll have two stars in that arena to fill the wall and have the fans yell at. We'll winning. You need someone to go ahead and fill up all the toilet stalls that they have over there in Clipperland. You don't got them toilets for no reason. The toilet stalls. Yeah. I always forget to have a record amount of fucking toilet. That's so random. Why? But it's also mad smart though. Why? Oh, the lines do be crazy. That's what I'm saying? The lines do be crazy, but what's the rush? Oh, I got to get back to the game. I got to watch. I mean, if you pay money, if you pay money, you know, you want to see the game.

Amir coffee, I gotta watch those minutes. I'm not telling you. You made that decision before you entered the arena. True. You knew you were watching Amir Coffee. We got five minutes until the rest of your agency starts and we can see teams sign with new teams. So in this next five, ten minutes until something else breaks,

can we put the solo cam on Mo? I wish we had some sad music to play. I wish I had it ready. Jaunton Murray is a member of the New Orleans Pelicans who was traded for Dyson Daniels, one feature first-round pick, and one pick swap. How do you feel? Oh, and Larry Nance, I think it's in that deal, too. Shout out Larry Nance. So when this deal happened, I let hours go ahead, let them fly, because I was just sitting in bed

just thinking, wondering, feeling. Can I even feel anymore? I don't know. So when this deal happened, I was not surprised for our return. We actually talked about the during the draft stream, I believe, or the previous podcast, I was like, yo, if we go ahead and send Dizante anywhere, brought up y'all yeah pellets would be a good good okay fit makes sense for that team overall and what they need um we're talking about the return i was like yo i do not want brandon ingram on my team i was fucking lying i was fucking out my ass i did not mean it all right but looking back at it and seeing where de jonte murray's value is if that's the most that they could have got for him what else could you expect laundry feels to do because there's no way in

hell you could have de jontore return onto this team and i like the fact that we did we were able to get two first-round picks, only than being the Lakers, I don't know if it's going to be good. Me, person, I don't think he's going to be good. But valuable as regards in such as stacked draft class that we're having in 2025. And then Dyson Daniels is an intriguing young player. He's the point of attack defender that we have been looking for for the entire Tray Young era so far. I like him as a player. Real quick.

Are you aware that Dalton Connect is a Laker? I don't know who that is. You're going to have to find out. You're going to have to reach across. Delta Connect. But now, you're right. It is hilarious in the last pod episode. We talked about one move that every team should make heading into free agency.

One of you, who said the Tim Hardaway shit? Me. He was laughing at me. Not laughing at me, but you're laughing at the idea of like, damn, these guys are so sad. No, no, but I agreed with you on that day. So what we said was we got to the Pistons and we were like, they need shooting. Anybody, please, anybody can hit a three come. And he was like, get ready to speak Tim Hardaway Jr.

Yeah. And then hours later it happened. Literally the same day we said that that night it happened. And then also, we talked about the Hawks. And I was like, listen, Dejante has to go. I don't talk about the Pelicans. And I was like, Desjante Murray to the Pelicans makes a lot of sense. You want Brandon Ingram, I assume.

And I was like, can I interest you and won Dyson Daniels? And you were like, I don't know, maybe. I don't know if I love him on this team. And then that shit happened. But in the worst way possible, because Brandon Ingram wasn't there. You only got Dyson Daniels. It's hilarious. Yeah, I can understand why we didn't end up pulling away with Brennan Enger.

I do not understand why we weren't able to escape with another first round pick or at least like a couple seconds. bare bone minimum. Yeah. But at this point in time, like, what are you going to do? I just have to sit down, accept my fate, and look at a Jalen Johnson and Tri-Young-led team and be prepared for what's in store. All right, for the first time ever in Hawks' Tri-Young area history, we have nothing but a bunch

of long wings. Sadly, Clint Capella is still there. You need to get out of my face in order for me to see happiness again when it comes to this team. But I feel all right about this overall. I'm joking. I don't think you feel that bad. I don't know how you feel about it.

but it was reported at the deadline that the asking price of Dezante was one promising young player and two first-on-picks. One's a swap, but they got that essentially. So that's fine. I think we just had our hopes high that they would get like a second star in there somehow. That didn't happen. But they had to make this move. They didn't get better talent in, but you couldn't go into next year with Desonte Murray in this roster.

Yeah. It's fine. It's all about the market. And the market for Desonte Murray is not what it actually seems like. I think he's better than what we were able to get a get-furt. for him, but with what he displayed alongside Trey Young specifically, that just tanked all of his value. And now I think the Pelicans got pretty much a steal

in their hands, considering they could continuously make moves, whether it be with CJ or BI and ushering the new guys like Trey Murphy. How do you like it for the Pelicans? For the Pelicans, I like it. Obviously not as like a move that's going to bring them to the top of the Western Conference. But now you are able to bring in talent and maintain

flexibility to go out and keep making moves. This is a great stepping stone move for the pelicans because obviously you are not going to win you're not going to win a title with Dejante Murray, C.J. B.I. Zion and whatever. Yeah. Right now that four you just said P.U. That shit stinks. Exactly. But they can move them. And the reason why you have to move them is because you have Herb Jones. You have you have Trey Murphy. You have these wings that are that are growing and developing into amazing players. Herb Jones and both of them, they're already. amazing. So you need to prioritize fit, prioritize what is going to work, and how to

maximize Zion. And having Dechante Murray, CJ, and BI is not going to help maximize that. So you can go trade that, maybe get some more picks if you want to worry about the future, or you can get somebody who fits with your roster right now. Brandon Ingram, get ready to speak Cleveland Cavalier, Jared Allen. Brandon Ingram, who says no? I've been speaking this for a minute, bro. I am on par with you. I like that. Jared Allen will be a great fit because he's not, he takes up space, of course, because he's not, like, a shooter on the court. But at the same time, he has a little floor to him.

I've seen him pop in the mid-range a few times here and there, and also he has underrated passing vision, I believe, for his size. And I think he's someone who can help connect all the things that Jonas Valentinus just quite literally could not do because of his, the archetypal player that he is. All right, six o'clock hit. Shams tweeted, not super important to breaking news, but he confirmed Clay's leaving, and they're working with. him on a signing trade option. So he's not going to go for a mid-level exception. It's going to be signed trade. If it's the Lakers, you're probably

shipping out D-Lo or Rui. And if it's D-Loh, it'd probably be a three-team deal. Because why the fuck would the Warriors want D-Lo back? Yeah. Well, you know, they ship out that money, probably signed for 20 mil a year or so. If it's Mavs, Josh Green and Kleba, that could do it. That's more interesting for the Warriors, but I guess that's wherever Clay decides.

Why is Josh Green and Clebe more interesting for the Warriors? Josh Green's young. I don't know. No, it's not. It's not more instinct for the way. We should rather have, it's Dilo or potential. I mean, I guess if you can get Rui, but I don't know, I don't know if it's a guarantee that the Lakers get rid of Rui,

but if it's Dilo or whatever you can get for Dilo, I'd probably rather fucking have Josh Green. Just get some more athletes in the building, right? The Warriors have had this problem for a couple years now where, like, like, Camingo is the guy, and you thought that Andrew Wiggins was going to be able to play and maintain the level that he was, not even in the final.

Yeah, we'll say in the finals. even that, he was really good. He's averaging like 17 points a game, right? Playing really good defense. You needed that, right? If you're the Warriors, you're like, okay, we need this version of Andrew Wiggins all the time, and you were banking on it, and he's just forgotten how to do all of that. Since then, you don't have a lot of pop in your offense. Steph Curry is getting older, Draymond's getting older.

You had Clay Thompson running around. You're young guys that you cared about. Jordan Poole, he's now out the building. Moses Moody barely played, so I'm okay with getting Josh Greene. You know who brings pop and what news just broke? What? Luke Cornett is back to the Celtics on one-year deal. Okay, so they have...

Listen, their bench, though. Their bench, if it's Pritchard, Houser. Your man, the dude that they just drafted, Baylor Shireman. Luke Cornett. O'Shea Brissette. Listen, that's four out of five. Can we get one more to complete the Blue Eyes White Dragon? You get a card.

Can we do that? The blue-eyed white dragon. Can we do that if we're Boston, right? Can we get a four that fits the profile that we can move on with? That's what I need. Oh, my God, this blue-eyes white dragon. That's what we're doing. Cool signing, I guess.

Keeps the culture intact. They're trying to build the 1986 team on the bench. Keep everybody moving. This is great evolution. I love it. Another deal? Kevin Love is finalizing a two-year $8 million deal to return to the Miami Heat. Good deal for them.

Wow. He's officially entering his Eudanus Haslam era except minus the screaming and all that because he's not that type of fighty player, but space the floor a little bit. I think he's in his DeVisa Bertan's era. It's cool. Yeah. Don't care. Good for them.

Kevin Love, you're doing Kevin Love things? More than a minimum. Keep a bag. Cool. I love whenever Kevin Love is in the league, bro. It doesn't feel right. How long has Kevin Love been in them? I think he got drafted in 2010.

Okay. Fourteen. For 2009. Good job. Good job. That's a lot of contracts. It is. Yeah.

Another deal that broke a little bit before we started. Max Christie, four years, $32 million deal to stay with the Los Angeles Lakers. That is shocking. It is a great player. It is until you realize that's like the same thing they did with Taylor and Horton Tucker. You know, they can't really afford to lose young talent, so they pay these second round picks preemptively. It's like a Zik Naji deal. It could age like that and be worthless like Zieg Najee was this year.

Or he can pause. and finally got an opportunity. For some reason, Darvinham refused to play him, but I think he's pretty clearly a usable player that should be in the rotation. And 8-mill, you know, it's only 8-mill. Yeah, exactly.

Every time he hopped on the court, I never was like, oh, my God, why is this guy playing? I'm just like, nice. Always going to read on the court. Great defense. Dope. All right, man.

Let's take some time to project and talk about the biggest name in the free agency right now. There's some time right now until the next big tweet happens. What do y'all want to see happen when the Clayton Do I want to see happen?

It seems like it's between the Los Angeles Lakers who can, like I said, trade a dealo and bring them in and probably start them with the right, maybe with the right group there. But it's not a guarantee or the Dallas Mavericks, who I think will guarantee him a starting spot. See, now you know that I don't like the Lakers and I don't want to see them prosper this year. So I don't want to see them get an extra shooter like this. But I think that for Clay, it would be much better for him to play with the Lakers rather than the Mavs because not even for offensive purposes, but I think defensively he'll be able to be helped and covered up a little bit more than if he played with Dallas. And if you have lineups of Luca and Kyrie and Clay Thompson, that's not a very, very good lineup. and one of them is going to be attacked, and somehow, right? Luca's like, hey, like, I'm not, you know, the worst by far, right?

And so Clay Thompson might, now it might be. Clay Thompson is going to be the weak link in that trio. Walsh just tweeted that Clay is having discussions with the Mavericks, Lakers, clippers, and 76ers in the opening hours of free agency. He said, I'm getting another one. I'm getting a ring. So those are teams we're talking to, which is, to be expected. I guess the clippers is a little bit surprising.

The clippers are in that mix. I guess maybe Paul George replacement Oh man That's rough Not gonna lie, I really don't like that I mean they need someone there Wouldn't be a bad fit Realty speaking

But choosing the clippers Over the Lakers It would be a very clippers move Your dad was one of the better Lakers of all time What are we doing over here Complete better Lakers of all time He played for Lakers Exactly

Yeah it was cool He was in AIM People remember him Because he's Clay Thompson's dead No relax Chad, what do you guys think? I want to see your prediction. Who do you want to see Clay Thompson signed to?

And where do you think he'll get signed to? Because that's a bit of a different conversation. Obviously, as a Lakers fan, I'm in. Let it be known. I'm in. Why are you in? The Lakers. Thinking about the entire time,

LeBron and Anthony Davis have been together. Name me one time they had an elite spacing shooter. Like, somebody that can really have gravity. Can you think of anybody? The only person I could think of is, like, Kyle Kuzma, but that's because he never says to go to any shot. So, yeah, Kyle Kuzu's up there in terms of spacers. Yeah.

Yuck, if Kyle Cruz is your best elite spacer, fucking hell. And that's what you all had. You said Danny Green, sure. I wouldn't call him an elite spacer. He's a good shooter. KCP, good shooter. Not a guy that brings a ton of gravity. We've never experienced a LeBron and AD Lakers team

that has legit spacing around them as a threat off screens, all these type of things. Now you got Dalton Connect. If he can do anything, he can shoot that fucking ball. And you get Clay Thompson, that's two of them that you have JJ Reddick, the preamitive off-screen shooter of our era to coach and figure out how to make use for both these guys,

that's an entirely different look that LeBron hasn't seen in his Lakers era that even if Clay is 25% of prime clay, he can run off the screen, he can catch the ball, he can shoot it. That's going to be a way,

that's going to fit so well with what the Lakers do, even if he only does one very specific thing. Yeah, I mean, it's not rocket science at all. It's pretty simple that they've never had any of those shooters. The shoes that you guys have had over the last season,

chase or what? Who? Rui, Austin Reeves, a great shooter, of course. DeLo, fine, shot like over 40% this year. Good season, I guess. Inconsistent, though. And then after that, who else? Tori and Prince. Cam Reddish. Fantastic. Fantastic. Yeah. So, so. So, like, okay. Clay looks really bad with the Warriors, obviously. So, like, obviously, I watched the Warriors last year, like you guys did too, Putrid. That's when he was making $43 million, and that's when he was playing in a system where he's been there for a decade. He's been playing the same style, which involves a lot of putting the ball on the ground, running off these screens, doing this motion-style offense that he's not going to be on the same team

and want to play in a role player's role when he's been playing in a certain way for a decade. You're not going to get out of those habits, and that's how you lead to seeing him take a lot of mid-range jumpers that clank off the side of the rim. To them do a new team with the Lakers with a fresh system, it's far easy to imagine him buying into a new role going into his Ray Allen era and really focusing on just being a spacer and, you know, extending his career. That's not going to happen with the Warriors,

and it very much could with the Mavs or the Lakers. Yeah, that's fair. I'm very, I think at this point, I'm just very jaded by the whole Clay Thompson experience. And I think that there aren't, like unless he was going to go to a place where they had absolutely no expectations, like if he went to like the Charlotte Hornets or something like that,

which he's not going to do. He wants to win the championship. He wants to compete. My thing is, when you put Clay Thompson on these contending teams or these teams that have aspirations of being contenders, now the pressure comes along, and we saw Clay Thompson go 0 for 10 in elimination games.

We've seen Clay Thompson. Keon Ellis, no! We've seen Clay Thompson in the playoffs be very inconsistent over the last two to three years, and I think it depends on what role these teams have him in, but if you are looking to Clay Thompson to be like your shooter, then I get a little bit nervous. And that's why I like the,

that's why I like the Lakers signing a little bit more than the Mavs because in Dallas, he would be one of the elite shooters on the team. PJ Washington, great series. You're not really like that all the time. True. With the Lakers, you have Dawson Connect there, right?

And so I trust in his shooting ability. So if Clay's not on, connect. Go do your thing. We get a new tweet. this isn't a super reliable source, right? This isn't Sean Cunningham, who is a Fox Sports reporter covering the Sacramento Kings. Don't know him, don't know his reputability. But every year you see some local guys get some sprinkles of news that end up being true.

He tweets, the sources confirm Sacramento Kings are pursuing a trade for Brandon Ingram. I'm told the Kings have had a discussion with the Pelicans, and it's worth noting. Ingram was an emerging star under Coach Alvin Gentry who works in the King's front office. So he's not reporting that's a done deal or anything, but they're trying. That would make sense. Does that make sense? No. Now, listen, I love Brandon Ingram,

I love the Sacramento King's, and I've been, like, avid voice on this part saying that they need to make a move. They cannot remain complacent and just think, huh, yeah, I can rely on Keegan Murray and his upside, and Demonti Sibod's continuing getting better, and the Inter Fox locking himself in as a top 10 point guard.

That's, like, great. But in the West, that continuously has been gone, has gone better and better and better, you're going to get lapped. You're going to get overlapped continuously by all these other teams that are getting better, and this is a move that gets them better. How much better? I don't know what their ceiling is.

I don't think it's, like, necessarily very high because you don't have an upper echelon player just yet, unless Dearen Fox randomly turns into that. But those are not the conversations that we're having right now. I think it's a good move, though. It's a good move forward if they do it in terms of getting more perimeter talent, right? You upgrade from Harrison Barnes to Brandon Ingram. That's massive, right? That is massive.

Do I think you are going to win the championship? No. Do I think the Kings are in a position right now where they are a championship robust? Also, no. So for that reason, you can look at it and be very happy if you're a Kings fan. Because for everything that you said,

the one thing that I think both of us have been on, you cannot be complacent. They had their best season in years, in decades. A couple years ago, the first light the beam season, that's awesome. Last year, they didn't really make a lot of moves. They were going to stand on continuity, and that didn't really work out for them, right? You miss the playoffs as the Kings.

You have to try and start getting better to maximize this Deer & Fox, the bonus combination. Bringing Brandon Ingram into the three, that helps. It's a step forward, for sure. That would be very important, like a pivotal move they have to make to maintain the nine seed. Now, crazy. It's fair. It's fair. No, that's exactly where, that's exactly where.

they're going to be. If you want to be the 10th seed, you get Brennan Ingram. Otherwise, we're looking at lottery. What does it take to, what would they have to offload on their roster to get Brandon Ingram? Money-wise? What does Harrison Barnes currently make? It would be a deal around picks, I'm sure, unless, because they already moved Daveon Mitchell. You couldn't move Keegan Murray. No, they're not moving Keegan Murray. But maybe a Keon-Ellis or Devin Carter. I don't know remember the rules about training where you're drafted, but I think you can for a certain amount time. They would need some kind of young asset.

To wait. Yeah, because the same thing happened last year. I don't know. I turned a little. It would probably be money and future assets, which to me screams Harrison Barnes and filler plus picks. Okay. And then obviously the Pelicans would use those picks to get a player they actually want. Because I don't really see there being anybody on the King's roster that the Pelicans would be like, yeah, that's our answer.

Yeah, other than Devin Carter, and even that, I don't think that would be a choice by the kids. We're good. We're good on that. This isn't like a super hard report, but Chris Haynes is talking right now, as many reporters are. And he said the Bulls proposed Wiggins and Paul for Levine and Golden State Warriors said no and decided to waive CP3 instead. Wow. They could have had Levine. Good. Good. Nobody wants Levine's contract. It's crazy. He's become so underrated in my mind. People talk talk about him as if he's like a complete scrub and a negative on the court. The only reason why he's been viewed this way is because, of course, like, he's on one of the worst organizations in the entire NBA

that had a really high high back in, like, what, 20, 21 or so? The 38 games. Yeah, exactly. But he's genuinely a good player. Whoever lands him, I think everyone's going to realize how valuable and how much of an explosive score and great shooter that he is. Yeah. And we're not a lot's happening right now.

14 minutes in, not much going down. Okay. That's interesting. I do like the move. It is smart. On the Warriors part, though, because if you were already feeling like, okay, hey, we're going to wave Chris Paul anyways, like, trading Wiggins and, actually, I don't know, betting on Wiggins at this point is a very bad bet. It feels like, it feels like a bad bet. Maybe he has one more year in him where he can revive everything.

But if it's the Andrew Wiggins that we've got in the last two years, then, nah, we might have to get Zach Levine in here. Yeah, I would only do this if I was the Bulls, if I knew, like, the Marta Rosen was going to be completely gone. Then I guess you need to have someone there as a filler. But then again, it's just like, bro, the spacing, it just continues to get worse and worse and worse, if they would have accepted that deal. You know what I think is going down right now? I think Paul George is holding everybody hostage. Freeze! Whoa.

You scared what the fuck out of me. That was loud. I don't know how I came across with mics. But yeah, I feel like his decision is the domino, and everybody's kind of waiting. Because all the teams that want Clay want Paul So they're kind of just like waiting for that And everything rolls after that Paul George has never received this amount of attention before

In his life, bro. He is LeBron This era right now Where do you all want to see Paul George go? I don't think we've talked about it formally You know, Chris Haynes said it looks It's looking like 76ers But we know the clippers are obviously still involved I'm sure he wants to stay to some degree So he's angling the

What's the word? The leverage of the magic in the 76ers Try to get the four-year deal from Clippers they're like, fuck that, you're going to be old as hell. You're getting three years. Live with it. The magic are there, the Sixers are there. If it's up to you, where would you want to see him go?

If it was up to me, basketball-wise, he would go to the Sixers. Now, as a Knicks fan, I don't really want any more competition. We just got good. So you can stay out West, right, and you can leave us alone. But putting him next to Tyrese Maxie and Joelle Embed is a perfect match. And it allows Tyrese Maxie to continue to grow and evolve and be like, you know, this rising superstar, and Joelle Embed has somebody to play off of,

as well as Tyrese Maxie, and you can just slide Paul George in, and everything that we've always talked about, Paul George, being, you know, one of the best off-ball stars in the league, being able to catch and shoot, all that stuff. That is exactly what the Sixers need. They need a little bit more creation.

They want to upgrade from Kelly Ubrey and from, you know, Nick Batoon Minutes and stuff like that. Paul George is a great upgrade for that. he should be there but we'll see maybe maybe the clippers come in at the very end and they offer him this deal

and they keep together they're you know they're inconsistent three we will see that would be so anti-climatic I would be fucking pissed if he stays with the clippers like he does all this

all this hoot and hollering to stay with the clippers I wouldn't be mad because like you want the fort you're able to stay home take it but as a consumer as somebody that's seeking entertainment in this whole process

I would be irate that means all we have is Clay Thompson? Oh, I'm mad. This is our job, bro. You're telling me, we're going to be sitting down, breaking down Clay Thompson, and after that, Clay Thompson, the KCP, I guess, in terms of, like, two-tap of players. Content, content, content,

Davey's Godwell Pope, but yeah, no, that'll be absolutely. So you like the Magic a lot, right? Yeah, I do like the Magic. Obviously, they're going to go ahead and get whoever's left or they should be able to do that, and I think that should be the... What do you see? Like, it's got to be encouraging, right, that even if they don't get them, it's super encouraging that they're in the mix, that they're getting a visit with the Paul George.

We had a conversation. She looked my way. I almost got the star. She wanted me so bad. Very pretty to him. It's a guy to be encouraging that you're building something the right way. I can't remember the last time a star. The best star in a free agency class took a meeting with the goddamn Orlando Magic.

Sir Giacca. Damn, little bad. The last time a star took a meeting with the Orlando Magic. Don't ever disrespect Sergei Bacca, my Congo King in this goddamn pod or stream. All right. It would be very cool if he does that. Because I know we've talked a lot in the past that I want to see the magic get a point guard and want to see them not have Palo Bancaro be essentially the point guard of the team.

But if you're going to continue going to go down that route and you're going to have him be 2018 Blake Griffin one day and be legit point forward initiating everything, saying Franz Wagner, he fits perfectly there. George playing off of those guys being supercharged Gary Harris and just doing Paul George things. It would be lovely. If that happens, I think the Orlando Magic, that should happen. But if that does happen, then the Orlando Magic will definitely be viewing Palo, not Paula, Franz with a little timer because you only have so many opportunities. We've only watch you for so many more seasons continue to struggle with your three. Now, it's only been one season,

but this can't happen. The problem just started. It can't happen next season, bro. I saw a woe shooting and I got excited. The jazz fucking wave. Omar Yertzvin. Not big Yurt. It was nasty a couple years ago on Miami. He had like a 14 game nasty streak at the end of the season. That's he culture.

Yeah. That's he culture. Exactly, you know. Yeah. The strongest. The toughest. We're still waiting on more. But, yeah, obviously, what would it mean for the 76ers first if they get Paul George?

Does that make them the second best team in the conference? Tide for the second best team. Okay. Does it make them the second best team? 100% real. Make them the second best team. If they get Paul George, are they better than the Knicks? Don't disrespect. No, I wouldn't go as far as to say that.

You're with me. The continuity over there in New York is insane, but I would say this clearly. I don't want to say clearly, but it can make them the third best team because Yonis still exists and he alone is like obviously a monster. Are we putting bucks in that conversation still? No. I'm a Milwaukee believer. Yes. Why? I can't believe this. Why?

Because Yonis is there. And Damien Lillard is there as well. Give them all off season, get back in shape, find some happiness in life again. You guys are disgusting. Eaters. Do you hear this right now? What have it?

Gok, gawk, gawk. Anyways. Oh, that's not why I said. What were we talking about? I forgot now. We're talking about the second best team in the Eastern Conference. Who? The New York Knicks.

Cares. Yeah, I think the Knicks would have a good argument. But it is, you have the, maybe the two best players in the series. Two of the three at least, because, I mean, Jay and the Brunson deserves to be above Paul George right now. So we're going to get that dad, but two of the best three players, three of the best four players probably. Yeah, and then the NICs have the next best nine.

So it's like... Right now, if they get Paul George, the roster is like barren. They're going to have to build that out and figure out a way to build the whole roster, but it's hard to find a top three that fit each other that well, especially fitting around an MVP caliber player. You look at what Yokic has. It fits perfectly around him,

but it's not that type of star-level talent. I think. It's a little bit different when Paul George is your potentially third best player. Who's the best center that Paul George has ever played with? There's Roy Hibbert. Verticality. Even Adams. Yeah, he's never played with the center that Big Zoo gets so much. Yeah, Big Zoo. He never played with that gets so much attention. So his game, he's going to get so many open looks because of the doubles in that new Nick Nurse offense. Oh, my God. I forget Nick Nurse is there. That'll be beautiful. I ain't a lot. I'm kind of talking myself into them being the second best team of the Eastern Conference. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. They have a really good coach. Again, it depends what the rest of the roster looks like, because it's a big old TBD. But they don't have more money.

They wouldn't be like a Phoenix Sun situation where it's three guys and a bunch of no one. Like, Nurkish isn't walking through those doors. They're going to be able to do a little better than that. I don't know. Especially, there's rumors that they're going to try and get Paul George and KCP. If that happens, the Knicks, you gave up five first-on picks to be the third best team in the country, I mean, in the conference.

Listen, if that happened, right, I would look at the Sixers and I would say, listen, do they have all the resources? Yes, on paper, do they look better? Of course. But put each team on the line, boy, boy, and line them up and let's see who comes out on top because the New York Knicks would come out on top in that situation. You are right. If they get KCP, the Sixers are dangerous and, listen,

depending on what the rest of the roster looks like, they could quickly jump up to number one in my power ranking. We have a moderate piece of news, very minimal. Kelly Eko, or Ico, tweeted, Nicholas Batum will not be returning to the Philadelphia 76ers, per the athletic. Woo! That's big because we were talking about Paul George on the podcast and how he said he didn't want to do all the dirty work

and basically was saying, I missed my man Nick Baton. And Nick Baton played on the Sixers last year. Paul, if he was going to Philly, was going to reunite with his man's. That's not happening anymore. Yeah. If this is true, it is, like, kind of important news because Nick Batum is just another guy who's just sound offensively, no athleticism, no speed, defense. He knows how to position himself really well. He's just smart, and he can do the simple things.

He can throw an entry pass and all that stuff, you know? Don't know about the entry pass. Exactly. So this is, this is true, that kind of hurts their death a little bit, not going to lie. It hurts. I mean, but. I wonder why, like, is this a deal with them in it? Because, like, why are they deciding this so quickly?

Exactly. And he is quite literally the only reason why they, or one of the main reasons why they escaped the plan because he had a solid 20-point game and hit some crazy bunch of them. Let's put Nick Battoon on the Pelicans. I don't know if they have any money. I don't remember the cap situation. They probably don't. It would be cool.

I would love Nick Batuma. He could put him on any team. He's going to be productive, but quite literally. Hey, the Clippers are trying clear up that taxpayer mid-level exception that they cleared up by James Harden taking a pay cut. $5 million a year ago back to the Clippers. Okay. Wouldn't hate it. Wouldn't hate it at all.

Also, the other thing about it as well, if the Philadelphia outfit of 76ers were really extremely down bad for that depth, if the Paul George thing was to happen, they still do have Jared McCain there, and I think he's going to be a tremendous rookie. If they really wanted to, they could move off him and get more talent off the bench. I don't know if that's a great idea,

because I think Jeremy McCain is going to be a great player, but that's an option. Yeah. Next player to talk about CP3 a little more. We glossed over a little bit earlier, because he got waived, he's a free agent. I think he should go to the Spurs. I think that makes the most sense.

The room is out there. Yes. I think that's like a perfect combination of like need in terms of like a basketball fit and then also, you know, veteran leadership, all that type of stuff. We know he has a, you know, a solid relationship with pop and everything.

And being able to go to a team that we begged to get a point guard all last year, even if Chris Paul is not going to be, be 2008 prime Chris Paul, he is going to be productive in some kind of way, right? He's not going to be a absolute zero. He's going to show at least Stefan Castle, hey, do this, do that. And everybody who plays with Chris Paul, they come out and they're like, wow, the way he thinks about the game is just different.

Like, I learned so much about that. And I think that that would be a very helpful thing for Stefan Castle, who wants to play point guard, didn't really do it in college. And so it's kind of coming into the NBA, learning a new position a little bit. I 10010% agree. You know what I just realized? What? Oh, sorry.

Remember back a few years ago when Free agents started, we did like 17 deals in the first minute because teams were obviously tampering their asses off, just going nuts. Now they're fucking cracking down and giving people taking away second round. Belt to ass, say it. Belt to ass for tampering, like they really cracked down. Yeah. Do you think teams now are just like twilling their thumbs waiting to announce it because they don't want to get hit for tampering? Yeah, those two to schedule.

Yeah. Like, they definitely still do it. Maybe they do it less for inconsequential people so you don't get tampering charges for Daniel House. Like, you don't know what that happened again. But maybe they're just like, all right, Shams, you can have this, but wait 30 minutes. Like, don't get a thought up. That's hilarious. I'm going to say, if Chris Paul was to, if he was going to do anything, and he's obviously

towards the later stage of his career, if you're not going to win a championship with those like that likelihood seemingly has died. at least you get to say I play to Ombi and I was one of the minimal reasons why they are up here in NBA history.

Those few talks that I had with Stefan Castle how I talked about victory or Mignam and how he taught him everything he knows. I put him on game. We're tired with that

on your badge. Let's talk about the Warriors real quick. I got this tweet from Legend of Winning Project the Starting 5 for the Warriors. Steph Curry,

Brandon Pajems Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kaminga and Draymond Green. We got a free Steph Curry, man. They missed out on Chris Paul and this is disgusting.

This is absolutely disgusting. Something I will say is that if this is the case, then while we see all this movement in the Western Conference, we can't see Steph Curry, who's literally still at the peak prime of his career. Obviously, it may not be as good as he was two years ago, but seeing him at this level, at this stage, while the Warriors are bare-bone,

this looks like quite literally like an 11th seed in the Western Conference, 12th seed probably as well with how much better the rockets are getting into you know and if i'm step curry you have to be you have to be so discontent and start planning out a potential exit plan yes you think you i i don't see a world and maybe i'm just being naive but i don't see a world with step curry ever wears another uniform other than a warrior's jersey I just I can't I can't see it and maybe they go the the the Kobe route and they say listen here's a two-year contract with all the money we can possibly give you just stay here and you know like you be Steph Curry in the bay and everybody loves you and that that is what it is I it's just hard for me to see that it's a meaningful basketball though at the same time I think I try these fucking young guys it's too late what young guys Pods? Cominga? Moody, Caminga, pick, something.

Moody should have been gone. Yeah. Steve Kerr hates him, and he does not get a fair opportunity. He should have been out the door. I mean, it was reported they tried to trade for Paul George and seemingly put all these guys in, and Clippers were like, no, you can't have them. Sorry, bud, which is hilarious.

But something has to give, man. This is really terrible, and it sucks to see him go out like this. The Warriors over the last few years have been quite literally the definition of sitting on your hands for way too long and thinking that you're like that in terms of like longevity with all these other young guys and thinking that these young guys were doing the title two years ago. Yeah, I agree, but they weren't like that.

That was one of the weaker championship level teams that you've seen in a lot. Usham's tweet, not a breaking news, but a little update on what's going on. He said with caps-based teams like Orlando focused on wing-free agents, meaning Clay and Paul George, and Utah focused on current roster decisions, I think meaning Lowry, Mark and Walker Kessler and probably Colin Sexton. and the Knicks working to unhardcap, sources say the OKC Thunder are in Eugene, Oregon, set to meet with Isaiah Hartenstein.

I've told you guys for the last week since we got Mikhail that the Knicks are probably going to lose Hartnstein. Listen, they have the ability to match. So, like, they have bird rights. We'll see the Thunder offer. Maybe it's enticing for Hartenstein, but the Knicks, they can keep him if they really want to

if they believe he's worth it. It's going to be too much. Listen, Hartnstein. What's the line? How much you think? Like, what do you think they want to pay them? I don't know,

but paying $20 million for a backup center is... He can be the starting center. It's a little steep. That's true. That's true. Mitch can go. Mitch is never healthy.

I love Mitch. I'm sure the Knicks fans love him even more than I do. I love Mitch. He's never healthy. I love Mitch. I'm talking about that, too. It always feels like

he wants to be out of New York for some reason. Mitch? Yes. Like, he's a sassy. He's posted so many black Snapchat stories, bro. He was a Snapchat still at his big old age,

it's fine he's just misunderstood you wouldn't get it you know i just don't think he want to be there to be honest with you those who get it get it the heart the hard the hard side of if the nicks are able to to retain him one i don't care who walks through the door in philadelphia were better yeah that's one but then but then too also like i it would be a very cool story for for heart and style cool to give up money and come at because the thunder The Thunder offering him that contract would be a great situation for him. He gets the bag that he wants, and he gets to play in a role behind Chad Holmgren and do everything that, like, the Thunder would love Isaiah Hartnstein,

because everything that they need, he can provide. He can provide, he can provide a little, just, you know, he can provide some defense. The offensive rebounding is crazy. The passing from a big man is underrated. He can do all of that stuff, and it would make. make them top, top tier in the Western Conference. They already are. They were the one seat last year.

You add a backup center on top of their draft where they got to more guard depth. Why are they not, you know, why are they not the favorites to come out the West? If they aren't already. I don't know what the odds are. But Hardinstein would change their lives of Oklahoma City Thunder.

Yeah, Chad, what do you guys think? Do you want to see Isaiah Hardinstein on the Thunder or the Knicks or team not mentioned? here because there's probably some other options. Yeah, there are definitely other options, but OKC is the most exciting option. I guess, like, I don't know, another option that I could sit here and try to toilet within my head is like, ooh, how would Isaiah Hardinstein go ahead and fit over there in, I don't know, the Orlando Imagine because apparently they want to, you know, shop around Window Carter Jr.

Things like that, but really, it's OKC, that needs to happen. We've all been talking about it. I agree What's it going on? What's the news saying? No news, yeah, I'm just reading tweets Trying to find news Yeah

Yeah, it's been awfully quiet Legion Hoops tweeted Sources tell me So this is Legion Hoops Having his sources Which Okay Shores tell me

The Lakers have interest In signing Chris Paul But only for the veterans Minimum So they want him to be a broke boy No, we're good We're good I mean that would make sense

If they were spam and thunder More than next I think. People really want to see Isaiah Hardinstein in the Thunder, okay. I also want to see CP3 back on a Thunder as well. We saw him go ahead and have one of them more like

nice feelings, nice stories over there back in 2019 with the Oklahoma City of Thunder back when they had Dennis Schroeder at one of Shades' first years over there as well. And they also had Stephen Adams and Dinella Gowanard. The most like random

collection of players just grouped together and everybody thought, okay, C was going to have another shitter year. And CPT, you run ahead. I don't want to say you put him in the back, but he put him in a great position. They almost won a playoff series. Yeah.

That was, and what's funny is, like, that playoff series is one of the shining, like, James Hardin playoff moments because he gets the block on door and then throws it and then, like, yeah, is able to avoid the ball. But now, a team that we haven't talked about for Chris Paul is the Orlando Magic,

and they need a point guard. I think that they need just a little bit more. They need someone to follow Paul to get show big ass back there. Yeah. They need somebody to be like, you go there, you go there. This is how we play basketball guys. And Chris Paul could 100% do that and making sure that the playmaking duties aren't all on Palo and Jalen Suggs. And that would, that to me, would probably be the second best fit for Chris Paul.

Yeah. We're talking about a whole bunch of nonsense right now. Who is winning the Tobias Harris sweepstakes? Tobias Harris has to be a team that has a whole lot of nothing going on because that's where Tobias Harris would drive at. Spankers. Yeah, exactly. Team has a whole lot of nothing going on.

Chat, where do you want to see Tobias Harris? Spam it up. I want to know. We in here talking about. Because I don't know, so I wanted you to tell me because I need to have some ideas. The chat can't tell you because they're froze. I will go ahead and tell you right now. The Utah Jazz.

Okay, explain. I've seen some tweets linking them. Tell me why. You've been trying to push this agenda. I don't agree with it. The agenda's being pushed. The Utah Jazz have absolutely nothing going on. Isaac has been through all the articles and stuff like that that he's read that they have an owner who's hell bent on winning.

If you want to win or maybe lose. Tobias Harris is your god. Hey, you're on to something. He can complete the trifectal. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Big brain, you are right. Your owner probably sees Tobias Harris and she's a veteran. Yeah.

She's $30 million a year. That's how you win basketball games. A professional. Danny Aange sees a one. Tobias Harris. And he's like, listen, you think it's going to help us win? I know it won't. Let's make something happen.

That sounds like a win-win to me. Where are we putting Tobias Harris in this rotation? Because if he is put in the proper Tobias Harris area, say, you know, third, fourth option on the team, you're not impacting the team enough. Like, Tobias Harris has to go somewhere to be a star to actively tank them. And in Utah, I don't think, I don't think that's the case. Apparently, they saw what the New York Knicks gave up from McCall Bridges, and their ears perked up. And so, regardless of what way you want to go, if Larry Marketing does end up going, you need someone to go ahead and put up those shots. Marius Harris is a great filler.

He should, he should not. I'm seeing a lot of teams in the chat right now. He should not go ahead. Blazers? It's a spur. Blazers would rather be damned and have Tobias Harris on that roster. A lot of Cancun? We all know that, listen, there's one team. team that Tobias Harris should play for next year.

And that is the Detroit Pistons. Correct. That's what I was going to be. The Pistons have King Cunningham, Jaden Ivey, Ron Holland, Sarre Thompson. Absolutely. No shooting. They had to pick up the phone at the, at the hour,

at the late, late hours of the night and hit the Dallas Mavericks with the you up to see if Tim Hardaway was available. That's the shooter that they need. Tobias Harris will bring spacing. He'll bring all the stuff that the Utah owner sees, right? $30 million a year, some spacing, some veteran leadership. He will bring that to the Pistons. And then you might be able to run, maybe one, potentially two,

competent lineups in Detroit. So that's where I think he has to beat next year. Someone said it's been 30 minutes. The only deals are Luke Cornett and Kevin Love. Someone said, White Boy, Summer. We've seen that over and over again. I ain't going. Is it a White Boy song?

Do we got a deck and hide? Let me know. We can't be going backwards. Chat's going crazy right now for these Tobias Harris recommendations. You guys came alive. You guys love some Tobias Harris. Tobias Harris is a... He's Tobias Harris.

Yeah, exactly. You know exactly what he... And honestly, and I was looking at the numbers, and at least from an average standpoint, he hasn't been as terrible as everybody says. Like, he definitely is overhated to an extent. because, one, he hasn't played as bad as everyone has said, and people have asked just much too much of Tobias Harris.

You know that he can't be... Exactly. You know Tobias Harris can't be your one option on the wing. You know that, right? You know he should be the third, fourth option. So then whenever you put him there, that's what you're going to get. He's going to beat Tobias Harris. You're very right.

When they acquired him, they had Ben Simmons, J.J. Reddick, and Jimmy Butler on that team. None of which are anywhere close to the city of Philadelphia right now. So he just got, just, you know, talent chipped away little by little. He got elevated little by little, just rose up the pay grade of the organization, found it, you know, he's like those tweets where it's like, don't be too good at your job, or they'll promote you, and then you got to do real work. That's Tobias fucking Harris.

He got promoted by accident, and he's like, fuck, I got to score 30 a game, no. Yeah. And those are the expectations that 70-6 fans have because second highest-paid player on the team, you better help Joelle Embed, and those lights are too bright. But little lights, little $13 million-dollar year lights, I think he's a perfectly fine blur. Yeah, I can definitely agree to that. Now, let's get a little bit creative here.

If there were no real team that wanted to go ahead and outright signed Tobias Harris, what if the Seth Philadelphia 76ers and Derrymore went back up to the lab and did a sign and trade with a team of mind, the Chicago Bulls? Okay. What if Tobias Harris was a Bull? Again, we can say the exact same thing that he was saying about the Detroit Pistons and them having no shoes because of a saw. Jaden ivies are the world, and also Ron Hollins.

Chicago Bulls are obviously like their talent level and the youth that they have on their team isn't as impressive, but they have the same exact vibes going on. Kobe White promising can't shoot the course, but you got giddy, who knows what Lonzo ball is. We're not going to count them into this core, but you got DeSumu, and then Patrick Williams is there as well. Not to say he's a complete zero,

but he obviously isn't the shooter that Tobias Harris is. You need someone doing nothing there, and Tobias Harris does that. Can I ask you a question for that scenario? And let's pivot away from the Chicago Pools for a second. I'm going to bring it back. Okay. You, a Hawks fan. All right.

Let's say that we get to October, right? And you look back at everything that has happened over the last couple months. And Landry Fields tells you, hey, we've been very productive this all season. We have traded away our best defender for Josh Giddy. And we have signed Tobias Harris Harris. And those are the two moves that we have done this off-season. How would you feel? I think I would sit down, gather myself,

figure everything out, have a clear mind, and I'll come to the conclusion that, as a fan, the only recourse is violence. And then following that time. So violence, how would you act? I'm sitting down thinking about this. Thinking of myself also, wow, did this really just happen? Exactly.

I'm reconvening. I'm picking up my phone telling Siri, Dial 9-1-1 immediately because this dude right here is trying to do some harm. Because he knows I'm doing violence. Exactly, exactly. He knows I'm doing violence, so he's ready to come on the back end and help out. Exactly. So the only course of action if Josh, if Josh Gidey and Tobias Harris join your team in one summer is violence in the authorities.

It should never happen. Maybe arson? Arson's probably on the table. It should never happen. Yeah. Public outrage, protest, everything. I can't see a grand frothos. I can't see that.

Grant Heptado is on the table? Yeah, I can't see it. You don't say the purges is going to happen in real life in Chicago. The purges on the table. Chicago is going to be scary something. And I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but that might be the worst idea you've ever had. But listen, it makes sense. You know why?

It's the Bulls. What good idea have they done in the last week? And that's the crazy part is that I can see them making a move like that, but they should never do it. It should have to happen. That's how I have to think when it comes to the ball. Dude, if you draft somebody that I like as much as I like, modest boozealous, who I think can be like a star one day if things break right, and you curse him with Josh Gidey, Zach Levine, Bozellis,

Tobias Harris-Voosevic, that's the line of you roll out. I'm not a Bulls fan, but I might have to be on the side of violence. Exactly. I'm going to go ahead and start up a petition to go ahead and get modest Bozellis traded already. I know you love the city, but brother, they're not doing you right. They don't love you all there.

If we're marching on the stadium, I'm going to call up Rusty Buckets, I'm going to call up Kenny, and I'm going to put my shysty on. I'm going to go with him. Hey, I got one. You could. Yeah, I'll let me borrow it. Now, you're coming, too. Oh, Ben, I got you.

I was another sicy. Let's talk a little bit real quick about the Lakers. Earlier two hours ago, Anthony Irwin tweeted. Anthony Irwin is a Lakers writer who, a bit of a yapper, dips his toes in the sourcing game, but not super reliable. But this isn't crazy. He said, I'm told the Lakers and the Trailblazers have been in consistent talks on a deal for Jeremy Grant.

I wouldn't call it particularly imminent, but the sides have definitely been active. So, talking. A lot of people talk. I believe that. And then somebody quoted it and said, Depending on how much money the Lakers are able to send out and what type of salary LeBron is willing to take, there's a pathway for them to acquire Jeremy Grant and use a $12.9 million mid-level exception while filling a roster under their face first apron.

Does that move you? Jeremy Grant went to the Lakers, LeBron taking a pay cut, and signing, let's say, Jonas Valchunis as a backup big with that $12 million. That would be crazy. That would be dope. Because then the Lakers shoot up to the top of the Western Congress. The top? Towards the top.

Towards the top. Yeah, yeah. Like top five. Yeah, yeah. Which is the top four are pretty great. Like Dallas, it might be four right now. I would, I would, if they got Jeremy Grant and Jonas, I'm putting them in the top four.

Ah, you say that as if Jonas has carries a lot of weight. But as a backup. As a backup. He's a nice backup. You still get to play Anthony Davis 36 minutes a night. Okay. Yeah. Because think about it, you have, Delos probably gone.

Let's say you start Gabe Vincent. And the gay Vincent Reeves, Jeremy Grant. Brony, Reeves. Brony Reeves. Game on, keep on. Yeah. Dave Vincent, Reeves. Jeremy Grant, Brony.

I said, Bronny. He's getting on the court. LeBron A.D., that's your starting five. And your backups, maybe you're Meg Dinwiddie as a backup point guard because you need to find a... Oh, Chris Paul. You're getting Chris Paul in the scenario. If you ship out D-Lo, they're getting Chris Paul. I can guarantee you that.

Chris Paul doesn't connect. Toy and Prince. Rui Hutchamore or Vanderbilt, one's probably gone. And then Jonas Bound Tunis. That's a deep team. You got Brony. And Cam Christie's still there. I mean, Max Christy.

Yeah, he's great. You got bodies. I like that team. And you can run lineups. So there's going to be pressure from fans, not pressure. There's going to be people on Twitter that are like, start Jonas Valchunus, put Anthony Davis back at the fore. I don't believe Jay J.J. Reddick to be a moron,

so I don't believe he would do that. Because only a moronic coach would actually think Anthony Davis, his non-shooting ass to be afforded these days. That's only people on Twitter who think with emotion and nostalgia. But they can show the court in some capacity, right? You can have eight minutes a game with Jonas Valchunis and AD out there together. during those lineups, and then the 15 minutes, the 80s on the bench, you have Yonis Fanchunis out there. That's 23 minutes a night of Yonis Valchunis, that's exactly how much

Jonas Valchunus you want on your team. No more, no less, 23 minutes. Yeah, I mean... 22? You're pushing it. That might lose them the game right there, too. But yeah, no, I actually like that, because Jonas does a lot of things that they haven't had since, I guess, Dwight Howard and DeVail McGee, in terms of just being big and being there to reassure Anthony Davis, hey, you don't have to get you don't have to go ahead and set all these screens all the time and you know the team will be completely dead in the water offensively because of Jackson Hayes minutes or whatever it might be

or Mo Bamba minutes you know throw basketball yeah and listen we're talking about Jonas Valchunis Jeremy Grant Jeremy Grant will be absolutely perfect Jeremy Grant there's a period in his career he wanted to prove he's the guy go out and get the money he did that with several teams

he got the money already he's on a five-year deal four years left I believe yeah four years left he doesn't got shit to prove anymore if he can go to the team and be a tertiary option again and be like OKC Jeremy Grant and focus on defense with that length people forget he was a nasty shot blocker

in OECC that year he was good defensively and then space the floor be a big wing do a little bit of PJ Washington stuff down there with LeBron it's incredible the OKC year was like seven years ago what they say about the old days yeah exactly I agree

something about I remember Jeremy Grant when Jeremy Grant was going through his phases and before he got the massive bag from the Detroit Pissons. A lot of people forget he was on the Denver Nuggets and he was initially supposed to be the Aaron Gordon. I think he's more talented than Aaron Gordon. He can just do a little bit more stuff.

And the shooting that he also provides and the growth that he's made in that aspect in that field would suit him very well. Would he go back to that? I don't know because it's just hard to ask for a person who's been such a, I don't know to say selfish player,

but so focused on him maximizing his own talent. New Sean says The Clippers are actively working on trades To move Russell Westbrook He opted into his $4 million deal Now it's an expiring So who wants them, you think? Why would they want to move Russell Westbrook

First and foremost? I mean, because he's Russell Westbrook I mean he does a lot of good defensive stuff for them I guess that's run its course And they'd rather have a different point guard Maybe they're going for Chris Paul Maybe that's a done deal And we're waiting for Russell to get moved

They get all the L.A. guys out of there. That's crazy. So, listen, who's, who makes sense? Obviously, as a backup, unless maybe the right team comes out, but he can still have a role with the team. Maybe a backup point guard on the magic. Again, put it. Magic would be atrocious.

Oh, no, no, no, no. That's worse. That's worse. That's way worse. Yeah, let no magic. Now, that is the worst idea. Stop that. What can Markhal Foles to do there, Russell Westbrook cannot do?

Here, let's do it. There we go. Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame. Shave, shave, shame. That's bad. That's nasty. What can Markle Fultz do that Russell Westbrook cannot do? It's not.

Here's the thing. First of all, I don't even give a shit. I just said it to you. And here's the reason why that's bad. Here's the reason why that's bad. Everybody knows, including Russell Westbrook, that he can do more things than Marker Fultz. You don't need your back of porn guard to be doing everything like that.

Russell Westbrook would be doing it entirely too much. And for a team that already can't shoot, bringing in Russell Westbrook is. I don't even give a fuck. I just thought of the first point guard needy team I could think of. Okay. Send that man to Phoenix. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. The Denver Nuggets just moved away from Reggie Jackson. They did. They lost away Bruce Brown. A lot of people see shades of this washed Russell Westbrook

in that bag. I like him. Counterpoint. Counterpoint. God for fucking bid. You make you watch Russell Westbrook on the same team as the Koli Okie. No, put him with one of the most brilliant basketball minds. Well, I guess you did see him. God for fucking bid. Good Lord, no. But in theory, it wouldn't be absolutely disgusting. You're going to make you find religion to wish this out of existence.

OKC struggles with rebounding. You have one of the best rebounding guards you've seen in NBA history. He needs to go somewhere. Wow, what is the answer? Yeah. I really don't know. Who is really great spacing? Can you use another point guard on the bench?

Really great spacing? I was going to say, oh, like, the Indiana Pacers have great spacing, but you got me messed up. You think I'm taking away T.J. McConnell minutes. Like, that's never happening. The Raptors? They're not great spacing. Maybe they can use...

You're going to be... You're going to deport him? Huh? You're going to be a team we don't expect? Because it's just a bench roll. So there's probably somebody that just, like, seize the value and bringing what he has to the locker room. It's going to be somebody random.

I need to see a list of it. Oh, who's the backup punk guard in the Grizzies right now? Derek Rose didn't work out. Derek Rose is still there. Yeah, that didn't work out. Well, Mark is smart. He's probably going to be a star or a shooting guard, but... I don't know.

They could use. He's another point guard, I think. I need to see a listen team. Every time we do this exercise, I somehow forget. I don't know. The Nets need a tank commander. Would you not want him? Ugh.

Yeah, I don't know. Let me see who's in the league. Just put him in, put him in Brooklyn. Why not? What do they have to lose? They want Cooper Flagg? He is the conductor for that train right there. Damn, man, we're an hour into the stream and nothing substantive has happened.

Paul, the words, you're cooking us right now. We're just vibing with chat. Yeah. Oh my God, Jake Fisher. Okay, it's Jake Fisher. He's a certified yapper. Certified yapper. Apper!

Certified yapper. But listen, I'm going to hold on to anything. Jake Fisher tweeted, the Nuggets are showing interest in Russell Westbrook. Jake, you might be my guy after this one. Certified yapper. GMO. Listen, here's what I got to do. I got to use the bathroom.

So y'all pick a team to yaff about and I'll be back in a couple minutes. Let's go ahead and do it. Who won the app now? Let's go. Also, real quick, to go back to Tobias Harris, because we kind of ended that, like, jokingly. What if Dallas goes out and makes a play for Tobias? God, no, I would hate that. If he thought he had a rough time over there in Philly,

he would even have a worse time over there. No, he wouldn't. No, he wouldn't. Why not? Because the Philly fans, Philly fans are two, or not two, but they are some of the most unreasonable fans in the league. And so, like, they're going to hate them. And you already have, like, a one and two.

You already have Luca and Karee. and you get another big body, somebody who's actually a shooter, I think that, I think that Dallas could, like if they strike out on Clay and they strike out on a couple other free agents, Tobias might not be bad as a third, fourth option depending on, like, how good PJ Washington is.

So coming into, I have to enter these conversations with an open mind, all right? Open mind. If I'm Dallas, I'd rather have a crumble cookie if I'm being honest, bro. I'm happy, satisfied. 30, 40 minutes. Listen, I'm just happy.

But what that being said, I will be open to it if Tobias was coming off of the bench because they don't have anybody who can give him any sort of kick. And we can do it. I genuinely feel like at this point in Tobias' career, you can tell him to come off the bench and it's not even going to be crazy.

You ran your course hitting a lick on the league, right? You've gotten several massive contracts. Now it's time for, like, like your perception revival. Now it's time for the rest of the league thinks that you suck and you can come into a team where you're playing with one of the three,

four best players in the league, somebody who's going to make your life extremely easy. If anybody's going to be able to find Tobias Harris, it's going to be Luca. If there's anybody that's getting attention on the perimeter, you have two nearly unguarded perimeter stars

and Luca and Kyrie. That makes Tobias Harris' job mad easy. I like Tobias. I propose Tobias Harris to the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah, and Tobias Harris to the Dallas Mavericks, I only like it if he's coming off of the bench as a six man. Tobias Harris coming off the bench as a six man, okay, different conversations because he would be one of the better six

men in the entire league and every team will want him or should want him. They've been in a, in Jeremy Grant conversations. So I can see Tobias Harris, clearly they want another wing. Jeremy Grant's obviously an upgrade to starter, but I can see that logic that does want more of what they know works. Yeah, exactly. Who, Jeremy Grant conversations, I remember that. That would be nasty.

He genuinely will put them, he will solidify them as a routine, like, finals contender, if that was to happen. Yeah. Will it happen? I don't know. Where do you don't want to see DeBarra Rosen go? We haven't talked about him. Wherever Paul George doesn't. I think DeMar, I think DeMar can go behind Paul George and feel kind of the same, the same hole.

Before, like, all the news came out that it's probably going to happen, that he's going to, that he's going to, that Paul George. are just going to land in Philly. I wanted to see Demar in Philly because I think that he gives them a lot of stuff that they're missing and it probably would be for a cheaper price and you would still be able to get the in-between game. You would get another offensive threat from the perimeter and we know that in the fourth quarter like we've seen Joelle and B'd be outside. We've seen him kind of shy away. Demar doesn't shy away from those moments. And if you need a jump shot, having Tyrese and DeMarie and DeRosen being the two guys to take the last shot, that's honestly not the worst

duo or worst combination in the league. So I wanted to see that now that Paul George is gone, send him to the Clippers, right? Send him there. But those two are at the top of my list. I saw Jaden in the chat, said DeMar back to the Raptors. Do you want to see DeMard de Rosen back in the land after he was dancing on stage at Kendrick Lamar?

He's not allowed. I'm not allowed I want to What do you think would happen He was dancing on stage and Kendra Gimore Nothing would happen But like no no

I'm not talking No I obviously I know I know If that was going to happen Do you think the rappers Have to consider that As a relationship with Drake He's not like

Is he still a brand ambassador? He should be yes Do you think they give a fuck Like do they consider that Even a little bit If I were then First of all Drake you're fired

You're fired Right. The noise around you is a little bit too much. And two, you barely come to the games anymore. Drake used to be at Raptors games. You used to be everywhere. And now that they... They live in Houston now.

Spike, listen, Spike Lee was at Knicks games all the time, whether they sucked or not. A whole bunch of, like, even like the peak Laker fans at their games, even whenever they sucked. The Raptors won their championship. Kauai left. And Drake was like, yeah, like, hey, if I have time, I'll get to you, but I'm not really going to show up.

So you're fired, and we're going to, if we have the opportunity to have a homecoming with Demar, I'm going to take that over a drink. Wow. This is crazy how much everybody's not tampering right now, how much we're, they're legitimately meeting right now or waiting for meetings to happen. Like, this is crazy. We're going to be streaming for hours waiting for a deal. People forgot, like, Kauai.

Remember when Kauai was making his decision and it took like nine days, right? Like, those. Yeah, I remember that. Those days used to have it, LeBron waited like eight days before he made his decision. All those, even KD. KD took a couple of days. He signed on July 4th, and it wasn't on the first day of free agency. So we're getting old recipes back.

And that's fine. You know, we haven't had a huge chance to talk about all these specific guys in different destinations. So that's fine. We have stuff to talk about in the meantime. We mentioned Jonas Valchunis on the Lakers. Let's talk him a little bit. You know, obviously he's a pelican starting big. And they were good having him there.

You know, they managed to have a top 10 defense with him and Zion some fucking way. They did it. They drafted Misi. I don't know if you trust him to start right away, but there is a world where they can bring Yonis back. Obviously, the Lakers feels pretty imminent if they don't get Clay. He'll be the backup big there. Where else could you see this making sense? And ironically, who wins the Yonis Mountain Tune sweepstakes?

Those are the sweepstakes that were in right now. Yeah. League is cooked. Look at Grant Williams and C.J. McCollum did to our league. you unbelievable yeah this is a hard conversation to have yonis valentuda sweet sakes it obviously has to be a team that has like no option no real other option and no real identity or goal just yet just existing and just you know finding ways to become slowly but surely relevant okay teams that have absolutely no motion going on right now and i think about a team like the washington wizards

why not have that big dude over there in the paint he could be if you don't want to throw Alexar into the fire day one, cool, have you want us to be there and slowly usher and level up their minutes and eventually have Alexar go ahead and circum those minutes. My bad. Shams is confirming that Russell Westbrook and the Nuggets interest is real and mutual. This is what I do. Back-to-back streams, are you kidding me? This is nasty.

Wow. I don't want to see that. That's, okay. But then again, what's the better option? Exactly. Exactly. Now, they do need bench depth, and Russell Rush, when he's not looking to be a real offensive threat or force, he can be over valuable because he provides that penetration. Of course, he can push the ball up the court, and he does give that fight and does all the nasty, dirty work things.

He provides what? Fight. What was that thing? Dirty work. Before that? Nasty. Nasty dirty penetration? Anyway, rebonding, passing, and all those cool stuff.

He provides that. Have you seen proof? Yeah. Shit. You also like here? The clip is that here? This is my role. I can show you highlights right now.

No, I guess it's not terrible. I mean, they don't have a backup point guard. There's no Reggie Jackson. He doesn't have to do much. He's going to be in a very small role. This does hurt their offense, obviously, because this serves up their defense a little bit more, but they need another bucket-getter if this is the case.

They can do some interesting stuff with him essentially doing Aaron Gordon role on the bench, with him being a Dunker Spot guy. catching lobs and, like, being that down low-key beat Gary Payton the second for them? Or Bruce Brown. Oh, he's Bruce Brown. Yeah, we talked about it before you went to the bathroom.

Oh, he's Bruce Brown. I didn't think about that. That means a lot of sense. Yeah. Does he buy into that? I mean, probably. Yeah. I think of Russ probably buys in.

And nobody's tried to use him in, let me say that. People have tried, but those people didn't have Nicole Yokic to use them these fancy ways. Now. Okay. He's bought in. I mean, I wouldn't prefer it. I would say in theory.

In theory, look, it should make sense. But he did play with LeBron James, and he was a completely, I think that time for Russell Western was just completely different because he was coming off averaging like 21, 11 and 11. That year was ridiculous and so random for the Washington Wizards. But since then, his role has been tremendously reduced. Obviously, he sees his time and opportunity waning away in the NBA right now. And if I'm the Denver Nuggets, I see that. And I think he thoroughly understands, like, yo, this team right here,

legit won a championship already, he doesn't have a right to come in here. He don't mean shit. You've got this big old dude who has two of them, but it doesn't matter. Stay in the dunker spot, get me rebounds, push the ball up, and put MPJ in, pass just the ball to MPJ, Jamal and Marie, and all the other shooters that they have. B. Sol said, if the Nuggets lose KCP and bring in Russell Westbrook, I am no longer worried about the Nuggets as a Celtics fan. That is tough. That's a horrible image.

To lose KCP and the replacement is Russell Westbrook. Get, you know, kids, Joe Star, on the phone now. Need a reaction. He didn't know what he's thinking. Wow, man. Listen, Russell Westbrook next to Yogish, they're not playing fair this year. Yeah, I mean, if this was the case,

then obviously, like, Christian Braun is going to be the starting two, and they better hope. Like, last year in the playoffs, you witnessed plenty of times, where Christian Braun is quite literally, hesitating to shoot wide open threes. They cannot afford that anymore. And this is where growth and development in the draft department, go ahead and shine.

And hopefully, if Christian Braun is who everyone thought he was out of school, he's going to go in and fulfill those shoes. Yeah. We haven't talked about, we really haven't talked about KCP leaving. Like, because it's kind of a foregone conclusion that he's going to go, right? So? I think, you know what? No, he's definitely the one that's waiting on Paul George.

Yes. I think if they strike it on Paul George, KCP here's $30 million. Okay. Immediately. 30 million sounds so insane. They got it. It's the NBA these days. Maybe it's 25, but if they don't get Paul George, the Sixers, KCP, here's a bucket of money.

Maybe we still can get Clay, too, low-key. They can low-key get both if they move the cards right. What, you say, you're talking about the Lakers? Oh, oh, okay. If they missed on Paul George, they can get KCP and Clay. They could. They could do that. Let's see death.

I like that. Okay, but if he, so let's say that Paul George signs with the Clippers and KCP is like, okay, I hear like, you know, like the bags of money are calling. Who am I going to? New signing just happened real quick. Sean Serrani says, free agent and big man Nemeanemius Keda has signed a

multi-year deal with the Boston Celtics. Please pull up a picture because I actually don't know I don't know who that is either. I'm a bad analyst. Was he from the Raptors or something? Can you pull up a question? It must have a second round pick

from previous years. Yeah. I have absolutely no idea who it is and I feel like it's a failure on my part as a knowledgeable NBA person. I've never seen that name, I don't think. I definitely have. I probably have, but usually so many names

on the bottom of like two ways that you don't even know. garden uh yeah there oh he was already on the Celtics okay yeah no never mind oh yeah yeah never okay he was already on the Celtic that's fine you don't got to go down this rabbit hole okay cool all right cool so there so he was already there i guess he was their second-round picked i didn't even know that i'm cool so set's not complete gotcha so what were you saying about kCP so if if philly doesn't sign him right i think going to the olando magic would be a really good opportunity for KCP and really more so for the magic absolutely because then

they get they they you get they're calling them Portuguese legend they like bro they don't know the Portuguese legend yeah he averaged five points for the Boston Celtics in 28 games this past season shout on him that's good so are we on board with that we're on board with KCP to the magic yeah I think that's a clear is a great fit for both we got a deal from Mike A. Skoto breaking news of Philadelphia and 76ers and free agent senator Andre Drummond have agreed to a two-year, $10 million deal. He's back? He's back.

Why? Andre Drummond is a backup center to Joelle M.B. We got our first decent-sized deal. Finally. Somebody changed the team. Once again, okay. Damn, this is a good fit for Drummond? I'm not bad.

Under Drummond's solid. That must be the taxpayer mid-level exception to a $5 million deal. Cool. I mean, I think Andreemann has become underrated. Obviously, he flamed out when he was like an all-star-level guy and making a lot of money that was, like, hit an error where he was absolutely abhorrent. in the trenches. Yeah, gross.

Terrible. But the past couple years, he's bought into this role. I remember that famous clip of him on TikTok talking about that? Yeah. And how his career was ended because he wasn't really

to buy into a role. He's learned from that. He's a legit veteran. As a Lakers fan, I would love to have him backup AD. So I'm sure the 76ers fans feel likewise. Yeah, I agree.

He's definitely, he's one of the more underrated backup bench player pickups that could just come in, play his role, be big, throw elbows, and get rebounds. Just be a piece that doesn't disrupt.

your offense at all. Yeah, listen. He never lost his rebinding ability. That's still there in a backup role. That's very valuable. Now that he's gone, it looks like Arzair Hartnstein looks even more like a lock for now. A lock for who? OkC.

What does Under Drummond got to do with that? You saw him as an option for OkC? Not to say like, you know, it is a cheaper option. That makes sense. He's just a good playing DC top guy. I mean, the Bulls, the Bulls have... Tough summer. Tough summer for...

I would rather start him than Vuceovich at this point. him than Vucevich at this point, I think. I would rather trade Vucevich and tank and start Andre Drummond. Vucevich has like a lick of shooting to him. No, he doesn't. Have you watched in the past two years? He has less than a lick of shooting. He doesn't even have.

He has a negative lick shooting though, Ander Zon. So does Vucevich, but he sucks at everything else. Meanwhile, onto Drummond can do some stuff. I think you need some shooting, but you're getting nowhere. You're not getting him to Lucevich. You're getting nowhere. You're not getting that shit from you, Vucevich. Good catch.

I know. Someone's fan of what should the bucks do, hope and pray? Find God? Yeah, what, listen. have no real moves, bro. Over here in the Bleacher Report, I was saying, hey, should they be interested in Clay Thompson? If they're going to go ahead and, if he wants

to go ahead and accept that mid-level exception, I'd love to see it. Is it realistic? No. It would be dope. Of course. Shout out drumming, man. Revived his career.

Wow. You left to see it. Yeah, there's not a terrible amount of stuff to talk about with the 76 years because it's just, you know, the backup big behind Joellen B. We've seen this before. We've seen it with this exact guy before. Who was their previous backup big?

Was it like someone like... It's been Paul Reed. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. And before Paul Reed and before he got those minutes, it was Montre's hair. Mo Bamba was there last year, right? Yeah, Mo Bamba was there. Yeah, but you didn't really play.

No, yeah, he was there last year. I remember because he had a beef of Paul, well, not Paul Dors, Patrick Beverly. Let's not talk about it. Weird stuff. Let's talk about that. Quick tangent. Mo Bambla and Patrick Beverly had beef? Yeah, you know why?

Do you want me to fill you in? Yes. Is it like? It's like the Nielbert arena's type nasty conversations. Fill me in. Absolutely. We're waiting for deals. Oh, my gosh.

So, Patrick, Patrick, said that Mo Bamba was one of the least, like, one of the more white black guys. Oh, I remember that, yeah. Yeah, and Mo Bamba was like, go be hot, blah, on Twitter and stuff like that. He put his voice deep, put a little accent on there? Yeah, exactly. He was like, I'm from Harlem, bro. I'm like, oh, if you, whatever, bro.

You had to really, he had to really make sure he enunciates it the right way? Yeah, exactly. So that was like a whole little thing. And then Patrick Bradley responded. He was like, bro, it was just a joke, calm down, and all of this stuff. So it was a little thing. And if you, yeah, it was a whole thing. I remember seeing the first Pat Bev clip where he said that,

and I was like, wow, that's pretty comfortable for a player's podcast. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. That's something that we would say. I wouldn't say it. I wouldn't say it. I don't know me. I mean, just, I mean, never mind.

But, uh. But I was like, that's a crazy way to talk about your fear. All right. Yeah, that's really awkward. And then they gave debates. That's hilarious. Where's Patrick? Oh, wait.

Patrick Bevy has like an eight-game or 12-games suspension or something like that, right? Yeah. Do you think he'll get another change? What did Pat Beggis for again? Throwing the ball at a lady. Yeah, and the reporter shit, too. Oh, yeah, the ESPN lady for no reason. He was like, he didn't want to go ahead and do an interview.

He was like, unless she subscribed to the Pat Beth pocket or some stupid stuff like that. That was so fucking whack. That was so lame. Yeah, he thought he had bars. I don't even hate Pat Babb. I kind of like Pat Bev overall, but that was the wackest shit I've ever seen in my life from a player. That was so obnoxiously corny. It doesn't make any sense, bro.

Pat Bev has had multiple going out sad incidents over the last couple years, especially, like, whenever he, in 2021, whenever the Clippers were beating the Sun, oh, no. I can't remember how it is. I know what you mean, though. No, yes, when the Suns, yes, when the Suns were beating the Clippers in the conference finals, Pat Bed just ran up and shoved Chris Paul in the back whenever he wasn't looking.

Yeah, it's a couple of bad moments. But I'm with you, though. I kind of like, Pat Bev is, he's kind of funny. I'm fucking Pat Ben. Pavan is funny. He's kind of cool. Listen, he goes out sad sometimes. I'd love to have him on the show.

Yeah. He's hilarious. Fun guy. Yeah, great guy. Absolutely ridiculous. Fun guy. Wild boy. A terrible moment.

Yeah, wide guy. I agree. Shut up on the red words. Andre Drummond tweeted, I'm in the mood for a Philly cheesecake. Eat her. First thing on the mind. Yeah. That's hilarious.

I know the time. That man, it's 16. His back is enormous. Yeah. Dude, imagine being 6'10. You have so many daily calories. You really do. You really eat whatever you want.

You really do. You know what hard is to be 610 and get overweight? What's wrong, a big baby day? He's trying to be in jail right now. He's like he's crying. There's a lot wrong with that motherfucking. He has a felony in his name. Bro, he was scabby.

He didn't really have insurance. He committed his insurance fry. He's the worst. Maybe that video was Laplaine. He had all the fucking money. He wanted to be on Chopper. Oh, my God, bro. This man is crying.

Oh, my God. Someone said big backy daze. Oh, my God. You're going to close up on Mo? He's crying. Look at it. Why he said, he'll show him on Moe. Baby Davis.

He has real issues. This agency is so weak. We're talking about this baby David. This insurance fraud. Oh, shit. Oh, man. Oh, my God. Wow, bro.

Oh, my God. Fuck. Someone give us news. Yeah, the leaves. Where are you at? Please. Chris Paul, do something. Oh.

Yeah, please, bro. We're about to go into the. Oh, man. Okay. Deep cuts. Deep cut signings. Anybody? Okay.

I saw another rumor. again from one of the biggest yappers on NBA Twitter two hours ago Jake Fisher tweeted the Milwaukee Bucks are shopping Brooke Lopez Oh yeah and they said the Lakers are linked to him Lakers are trying to trade for him They should not do that

The Lakers shouldn't? No no no the Bucks If the Bucs do that I'm closing a championship window for them Rui Hachamora Jalen Hoodsafino A very protective first round pick Brooke Lopez If I'm the Milwaukee Bucks If I'm the Lakers,

go, I'll pack your bags for you. So I was joking, but low-key, you know, we talked about they need to get faster and younger. Brooke Lopez is their best interior defender. Hard to do that without destroying your defense. Jared Vanderbilt. Yon is going to play the center, and you have another very, Jared Van Gogh's a very good defender.

It doesn't mean it's facing Burke Lopez, but can give them like a mobile look with two great defensive big instead of a big look. That would have to be the deal. it would have to be I have more stuff to you would be Jerry Vanderbilt plus somebody else Yeah

I wouldn't want to do that per se from the books but if I have to trade him I like the idea of Jerry Vanderbilt and Yannis that's real versatile I'm very hesitant to move off and like I guess at a certain point

you have to look at your roster and understand these are a bunch of old dudes who aren't very athletic at this point in their career we can't really rely on Chris Middleton but we can't but we can't trade him because the dame yonis thinks though isn't working and the only like offensive two-man

game that we can lean on is chris middleton and yannis so those three are here but it's just crazy to think that in two off seasons you're going to get rid of drew holiday and brook lopez and think that you are going to be this like championship contender i think that you are taking another step back and you would be they would fall to i mean they are they are already kind of were but they were at like three in the conference this year or yeah they were they were at three they would fall even further than that in my opinion they would be in that like four or five range but if you're the bucks like and if you saw a superstar talent dame you learn all that stuff i would do that again by the way but what else are you supposed to do you need to make something

shake that exact because that whole core wasn't getting it done but that exact logic now trapped you into this into this deal of getting dame and giving up your flexibility and doubling down on, on like, age, and now you have no more moves. So if you do that again with Brooke Lopez, where do you go from there? I don't, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't rush to do that if I was, if I was Milwaukee. Because they're walking a super, super tight rope right now, where Janus is at the peak of

his powers, arguably had his best season last year, and he's gone out with injuries, right? You hope that that's not the trend, and you're just trying to get one. playoff run with Damiena's, but, you know, like if Brooke Lopez is not there, it's going to get kind of bad. Yeah, me personally, I would never want to give up a player like Brooke Lopez because his skill set is so rare and not a lot of teams. A lot of teams in NBA are looking to get a player like that, and they just simply don't exist out here in the market like that.

So me personally, I don't know if I do it. Yeah. Man, there ain't shit going on now. I'm trying to look for some kind of rumor of anything there. There's nothing going on. It's not. I'm trying to find, like, rumors of who's even talking. Like, not even, like, a deal's imminent, but who's speaking to one another?

Deep cut. Yo. Tyrus Jones, right? Oh, yeah. Where's Tyos Jones going to go? Tice Jones. Should the Miami Heat make a run at Tice Jones? Miami Heat.

So. You have Terry starting right now. Terry and Tyler Heroes are starting backcourt. Uh-huh. Right now. They're going to lose Caleb Martin. Yes. So in two years, you've lost Caleb Martin, Max Drewson, and Gabe Benson, got nothing in return.

abhorrent jamming, by the way, absolutely pitiful. You find all these young guys in the free agent market. Right now on the debt chart, DeLan right is the backup point guard. Do you go get, you go get Tice Jones, maybe? Oh, my God. Kevin Porter Jr. has agreed to a two-year deal with Los Angeles Clippers. Hey, what the fuck is up with the Clippers?

What the fuck is up with the Clippers? First they signed Josh Primo's weird ass, and then Kevin Porter Jr.'s bitch ass? Like, they're going for all of them? They just, just every piece of example. Freak of Freakazzoids, bro. Miles Bridges, you're next.

Oh, God. You're trying to make the exodia of abusers. Yeah. Get this motherfucker out of here. Ew. Bro, KP.J. found his way back to the league. That is crazy.

Oh, they're going to sign fucking Kendrick Nunn, Miles Bridges. All the sickos are going to the clippers. They're just speed running being unlikable. I guess, I wonder how much does it say

how much his deal is worth or not yet. It's two-year deal. Okay. I have to assume it's not going to be worth a including a player option. A player option. A player option. A player option.

They're giving this motherfucker leverage yeah that's disgusting this might look like they're gearing up to prepare to lose Paul George if this is the case keep in mind he sucks too don't forget about that part he also sucks that only is he a bitch he also sucks this is crazy uh yeah how is he getting back in the league we have documented proof of him being a violent abuser to the utmost extent that's crazy yeah uh I have no words for KPJ. I have words for the Clippers. What is going on? And why are he steeping this level of lowness to go ahead and add for what, right? It's not like he's going to like revive

his, even if he does. Is Primo still there? No, I see they cut Primo actually because he wasn't good. He's like he was out in their G league. Oh, I thought. Oh, no, they cut him. Then it because he, because he, I'm not going to ask the question the way that I'm that I would ask it otherwise. So we're good. We're going to ask. He's not, he's not there anymore. It's all good. I'll see you later. Yeah, either way. Nasty, nasty signing.

It looks like they're getting ready to lose Paul, Georgia, Jane, if you sign. All right, man. Listen, nothing is going on. What do you think about Zach Levine? There's been a lot of rumors. We haven't talked about him at all.

At all. There's been a lot of rumors that they can't even trade him to somebody as, like, a dump off with a pick involved. Like, nobody wants his contract. And I feel like that's absurd. Like, he's not, he's been very injured and he's maybe overrated for what he's paid.

But you can't even dump him and give him with somebody a pick. Like, he's good. Dude, if I am the Orlando magic, I am striking on Zach Levine as fast as humanly possible. Because when you think about spacing and just having another option on offense, that is the guy. Now, yes, he does hurt their defense because he's never been known to be a defender in any light whatsoever. But in terms of having a guy, putting him in your offense that's been known to be atrocious over the last 10, 14 years, having him put up like eight threes a game would make Pallel's life so much.

easier. I love him for the magic. The magic would work. I agree with that. Um, listen, just send that man to Brooklyn. Wow. No, no. Just send him to Brooklyn. He's going to win too many games with him. Not too many. No, he is not. No, he is not. He is not going to send him to Brooklyn. I mean, yeah, he's not going to make him win games. It'll be okay. Now, I don't know if, because if you're, if you're the bulls and it's like at this, at this point, like, if you have to attach assets to it, like Brooklyn would be like, All right, like, yeah, we'll take it. We can get a pick.

Okay, I'll take Zach Levine. Someone's going to get an absolute steal for Zachovine. Also, I'll be back. I'm going to hit y'all in a minute. You know, he's a bathroom? Yeah. So what other teams you want to see Zachom would potentially go to? His contract is really what's messing it up,

and his contract is genuinely what is scaring a lot of teams. Not his skill set. Of course, like he's not, the defense is a real issue. You have to plan and build around that. But if I'm sitting down, down here and if I'm a team like the Golden State Warriors. Oh, wait, no, they actually, they declined that. Yeah, they had, apparently they had an option to get Zach Levine and they were like, now we're good.

Oh, that sucks. So, okay, staying in the Western Conference, a team that has been hell-bent, apparently, according to all the rumors, hell-bent towards winning right now, could be smoking there. We talked about that on the stream a couple days ago. The Houston Rockets, if they want to go ahead and just deal with and get the most value for Jayling Green as possible, I think that's a move that they could make. Do I think it's a great one? I don't know, but if you

truly want Amend Thompson to be your future, put surround who and none but snipers and shooters, and I think that's, like, the way to go. I like that a lot, actually. Oh, there we go. Y'all,

I think nothing's happening tonight. Yeah. I think we might have to close the stream out. And whatever happens, I think we have to just do it the next podcast. and talk about it because at this rate, it looks like teams are legit, not tampering. They're waiting on Paul George.

We're not getting anything tonight. Yeah, I see other folks are running this stream too, bro. I'm not going to lie. But, as always, this stream was fun. It was elite. It was excellent. They have to go ahead and tap in

with the Crown Eater merch right here. I got this fresh pack. Isaac got that shit on his body, too. Magnificent. Yeah, man. And we'll see you guys next week for next episode, which is going to have a special guest.

Stay tuned. I'll reveal who the guest is. later in the week, but there's going to be a fourth person there for the pod this week. It's going to be somebody you guys recognized if you're on the YouTube NBA podcast world. It's going to be a fun time. Yes! And we'll see y'all later.

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