The Deep 3 Podcast - Reacting To The Top 100 Defenders In NBA History | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: August 10, 2026

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Bleacher Report put out one of their historic lists, something we love to react to and tell you guys whether we think it's good or bad. Today we're reacting to Bleach Report's list of the top 99 defenders in NBA history. They couldn't go to the extra hundred? Nope, 99, Guler. This is lazy, bro.

They don't want them bad enough? So B Souls will show us a player in NBA history we guess where they rank in the top 99 defenders of all time. All right, first player, Drew Holliday. He's top 30 for sure. I think Drew gets a lot of credit. They're going to put Drew Top 20.

Do you think they skew towards Biggs or they give guards their fair share? I think they will skew towards Biggs, but also Drew Holiday has such a high reputation. I think like 18 might be Drew Holliday. I think you're on the right range. I'll go 21. I think there's like 13 Hall of Fame centers

that defend like that that got to be on there. He can be the six or seventh guard. Okay. I can see that. He's an anomaly. Over the last like seven years when the old podcast wave came out, One thing that players would always do is give you a horror story about Joe Holiday and be like,

he's the most underrated player in the league and yada, yada, yada, yada. Honestly, I think it might be like 15 or so. I think that's tough. It's great. I go 18, 21. Okay. It is 35. Okay, fair.

Yeah, it makes it. There's a lot of defensive bigs. Okay. And wings. There's a lot of defenders in NBA history. Okay. Next. O.G.

Anobie. Oh, I don't know. 80? Like, he's probably a barrier on the list. You don't think? Yeah. I'll say he's, I won't say, but they can say like 50.

Do I go 60? Okay. 61. It is. 86. Okay, there you go. Salute. And that makes sense.

You know, he's had a couple all time defensive seasons, won a championship being the best defensive player on a team and being so important. That cracks you in the top 100, but what is there like 50 DPO Y winners in history? Yeah. Yeah, but I mean with like repeats and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know, whatever. He hasn't made like defense. Probably 40 D. Y winners as well. Yeah. I guess. Okay.

Next. Bill Russell. Oh, that's top five. I think one. Yeah, one or two. Let's go one. Surely there's going to give him one, right? Say three.

If it's not one or two, we riot. We send Bill Simmons to their door with a pitchfork. It is. And Ben Affleck with a bazook with a bazook. One. Okay, cool. Perfect. Ben Affleck put the heat down.

You're good. Matt Damon, stand down. We're all right. We're good. You're good, bro. Stay on the press tour. Shaquille O'Neal O'Neill

Top 100 defenders I mean Pichshack I know I can defend but like Yeah Pete Shack had had some years where he was voted

as a DPOY candidate Um Is he hired an OG Or he was all defense I think so Especially because he's a big I think I'm I'm guessing like

50 I'm gonna say the same thing 51 67 It is 71 Fair Okay

Yeah. They're not glazing just by the name. He should be around there. That makes sense. Shouldn't be too high. Okay. He's going to be mad. He'll be mad about everything. That was no one. Kevin Garnett. Just top five. Yeah. Bill Russell was one. Who do you think is two? Probably Hakeem or Duncan. Yeah, Hakeem Duncan.

I think they're probably doing some hot take and saying he's higher than Duncan. So he's top four at least. I'm going to say four. You want to say three? Three or two. You pick one. I'll pick one. I'll go three. I'll go four. I'll go number three overall. I think it's Bill Russell. probably Hakeem Kevin Garnett Kevin Garnett is

Number three There we go Yeah there they go There we go And you know what Fair Okay Who will I to argue with the big ticket

Can't Can't do it Now I wonder who's two LeBron Yeah Higher than Shack right Definitely Yeah for sure

I think 35 The Jew holiday was a 36th Yeah Okay I think like They might get Say 40 Yeah

Like 42 Yeah. Would it be glazed if I said, would it be glazed of me knowing Drew Holiday 36 pulled LeBron over him? Would that be glazed? No, no. I don't think so.

31. 31? It is. 22. Yep, but highly Drew Holiday, deserved. Doesn't have the accolades, obviously, because he focuses on offense too,

but among offensive creators, one of the highest defensive peaks of all time, got robbed by Marcus All of his DPOI. I'm with it. That's pretty high. I can't be mad at it. In fact, give him number two overall. Is that glazed?

No. Give number one overall. It's too much. All right. All right. It's just my limits. Seeing where the glaze lines are. Seeing how much I can get away with.

The glaze lines. Now I know. Number two. Michael Jordan. He better be lower than LeBron. I swear if he's tired of 22. He's not. They're going to give him tired.

I'm going 15. Where would they put him one above LeBron to be petty? 21. You say 20. 15. 15 on the dot. Wow. Okay.

That's ridiculous. 15 is so high. That's ridiculous. Sniping. I mean, he's a DPOI winner, so I get it. I get they're going to, the history says the DPOI winner. So that's Glazo. Okay.

You got to respect it. Do you think Gober is going to be lower than him? No. Goberrish should be higher than my court. I think, I think Goberra is going to be top one. Yeah, he absolutely be talked to him. I agree, but we'll see what this list has for us. All right.

Next. First team all defense, Tony Allen. I think he's going to be 21. I think he's going to be a spot of bone in LeBron. Let's say 26. Let's go 20. Edge out, Donovan. Well, 23.

23, okay. Right below LeBron. So we were all in the right general direction. That makes sense. Similar caliber defender to LeBron, fair. Okay. Next. Whamby.

Are they... Is this a peak or a resume list? I'm not, I'm not sure. I feel like he's leaning towards resume. Are we putting him top 10? Top 10. He has the DPOI already. We just got to know the thesis of the list, though.

Are they trying to say the best version or what you've earned in your career? We don't know. But let's tell us that honestly. Okay, 17. I'm going to say, I'm going to say perfectly 10. I'm going to say 7. 36.

Wow. So they say you got to do it for many years to earn there. Okay. Okay. Next. I can't be mad at it. It said Drew Holiday is better. Joel and Bede.

If Wemby. Shack was 71? Yeah. Shack was 71. I'm going to say, Joelle is 63. 48? 52.

Joel Embed is 91. Oh, damn. Barely on that bitch. He definitely had a high defensive peak in Shack. Oh, my goodness. He definitely had a high defensive peak than Shack. But especially the last couple years with the injuries, they see the slowdown. Yeah, and they're holding against them.

And they have been taxing. I guess. All right. Next. That's crazy. Larry Bird. Man. So 99.

Yeah. I'm going to say 96. They definitely put Larry Bird above Joel and Bede. I'll say 79. 70. Yeah, yeah, I do it. They definitely put them above. This is glades.

I'm not going to want. And above Shaq. I mean, Larry Bers are a good defender. I don't know. It's fine, I guess. 20 spots above Joel and Bede? No.

Shack was. Oh, yeah, Shaq was 71. Yeah. So, yeah, 20 spots above Mb. That's because they hate Embed. It's not. about labor they're just hoeing and beating that's what it is

the imbeating is crazy to me all right next Alex Caruso a championship off of his defense they love that I mean put Caruso at 20 I think he's 13

probably probably really speaking they should put him at like 30 37 or something like that 44 I see so I see

he might be above Drew Holiday I think right below I'm gonna go 33 Okay right below Drew Holiday By a tier or 24 Dollar way off It is 75 Okay

Hell no Yeah no I mean that bird over him I mean bird's a good defender I'm not gonna act like bird He's not Caruso though It's just because Caruso Doesn't have anything else

That's what we remember Yeah He does He puts all his energy there Yeah Yeah Okay next Where do you go bare

This is a He has to be top 10 Eight. He's got to be top ten. If he's lower, Michael Jordan is 15. If he's lower than Michael Jordan, that's hilarious.

I'm going to say that you're giving him six, yeah. I'll go ahead. Rudy Gobert is nine. Okay, fair. They didn't hate on him too much. They respect the DPOI. You're in the top 10? That's fine.

And that's good. We need reputable lists, such as the bleach report, top 99 defenders of all time. B.R. The list that people care about. We need them to respect Rudy Gobert. They've been kind of respectable this year, man.

Yeah, they've been hitting. Okay. Yeah. No more rage baiting. Next. Dee Wade. What the hell? Brown was 22.

94. He's on there. Well, he's a very good shot blocking guard. And that might matter. And end of sentence. I'm going to go 68. I'm going to say above bird. 77.

Donovan was very close. 67. Okay. Nice. I don't think he should be above bird. Necessarily. I think the highlight. of him being a shot blocker.

More sound, I get it. Fair enough. Next. Ben Simmons at a high defensive peak. That's so funny. They're going to put him above Jewel and Bede, above 91. It's called 85. I'm going to say 73. Short peak, though, right? Yeah.

He should be above Larry Bird. Should be probably above Wade. But he not. Probably won't be, though. I'll go 60 to where I think you should be. It is. 94. Okay, short peek. They got him barely on the list.

But at least they put him on there, even though he fizzled out fast. Respect, okay. Fair. All right. Next. Wilk Chamberlain, two.

I don't think he's, I'll put him at five. Yeah, I mean, I think Tim, I think the five is going to be, because you have Bill, Tim,

Hakeem. I feel like the Kimbe is going to be super high. KG was three. Remember that? KG. Five's a good guess. Probably after those guys,

they're going to put, well, they're just because he had so many blocks and stuff. So six? I'll go five over Matambo. I bet they put him five. I'll go five. Okay.

Well, it's 18. Wow. I'm glad they didn't glaze. That's correct. He wasn't an amazing defender. Correct. I assumed they glazed because everybody glazes his wilt.

And I just got like 82 in O'Brien, I guess, still. Assuming everyone thinks he's got. 18 is a very respectable position. Perfect. All right. Next. Kobe Bryant. He's going to, so Brown was what?

Brown was 22? I think he's below. 25. He's definitely below Brian. But honestly, they've been very realistic about this. You're right. They have 40. Yeah, 41.

Mom, you say 38. Oh, correct. It is. 42. Okay, look at them being realistic. And you know what? Being one of the best offensive players ever in the 42nd best defensive player, that's how you get to be a top 10 player of all time.

Yeah. That's realistic, not glaze. Yep. All right, next. Draymond Green. Oh, he better be. Rudy Gobert was nine. Yeah.

He's either 10 or 8. They're going to put him right next to him. Do we think he's slightly better or slightly worse? Fully better. I'm going to give him 8. 8 is cool. It is. It'll be funny.

10. Damn. Right after Gobert. Okay. I knew they'd be right next to you. I knew they'd rage bait in some way. Where did they put Wembe at? 36.

They're actually messed up for this. That's not crazy. Yeah. Dreyman's going to talk about this on the podcast. That's what's like you put Rudy's life in danger. Traymond's going to talk about everything. He put a turn on his life. Like my page is true.

And next All-Star weekend when he sees him. Exactly. Take this fucking knee. Just going to trip him. Just to be out of the cord. You just put a battery in his back. He's done more for less. He'll be a lot for this.

True. A couple more here. Yannis. Ooh, we should be high. D.P.O. Is he top 10? No, not top 10. But he should be higher than LeBron.

He's the only MVP. D.P. Why they probably with Jordan, they probably put him near Jordan at 15. You think 11? 17. 11 to 12. I bet he's right below Jordan, but he should be right above him. He's probably above. I'm going to say 12.

If we think he's above, I'll go 14. He'll go 17. Oh. You are correct. It is 17. That's what I thought it was too. I thought they put him right below Jordan, which is rage bait. Yeah.

Okay. Rage bait. Don't love it, but it'll be all right. All right. Tim Duncan. You think he's two above KG, or is he four? I think they give them two I think I'm I think I'm say four

I think they made like you said they made the stand of KG over Tim yeah so I'll say four for Tim Duncan I agree with you number four Tim Duncan is two oh so hekeem must be number four okay they make no stands they still went Dunkin over

Hakeem is next four has to be four okay yep Hakeem is four okay there you go okay all right so that's the top four who's number five number five let me see

if you know what the list pulled up it's fine It might be Metumbo, like you said. Or Rodman, maybe. Number five is Ben Wallace. Yeah. Valid. Fair. Yeah, he's up there.

Fair. Okay. Last one. Marcus Smart. That is a DPOI. I'm going to say, where was O'GN and O'B at? 80 something. But he has a DPOI.

Drew Holiday was 36. Is he above or below Drew Holiday? But the peak wasn't that long, though, too. It wasn't. But he has the DPOI. 33 for Marcus Smart. 33? 33.

I'll go with you. 33 sounds like they probably actually I bet they want to say we are a publication that knows that your holiday was always better and Marcus Smart didn't deserve that. That was Robert Williams or Janice's DP OI so we're really going to put them a lot lower 50. I'm going to say 53. Moe strikes again 54. Whoa. Okay fair. Yep. Smart. Okay. This is the stand that they made. They've grown stolen it stolen DPOI stolen by. Yonish didn't went back to back. I like what they're doing. Actually, that was 2021, wasn't it? So, you got another one, but it wasn't back to back. What was it? Did he get 20 or 19? I think he got 19.

I think so. Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably. A couple notables that have Dennis Rodman at 7, Scotty Pippen at 8. Okay, fair. Can't be mad at it. Yeah. They have Kauai at 12, Dwight at 13,

Air Payton at 14. Okay. So I'll do this. Cream 16.