The Deep 3 Podcast - Reacting To Your Best NBA Trade Deadline Ideas | TD3 Live
Episode Date: January 29, 2025Reacting to chat's NBA trade ideas! #nba Support the stream: https://streamlabs.com/thedeep3pod Today we react to all the latest NBA news! Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwa...ll.com/ Join the TD3 discord!: https://discord.gg/RUkjpMPp7E Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Yo, it's been a real slow.
Last couple weeks of news, the trade deadline is quickly approaching,
but it felt like this might be the slower trade deadline in a long time
with the new CBA stuff, with the second raping around.
It seemed like teams were scared.
And then today, the day of our stream, the NBA world goddamn exploded.
We have so much to talk about.
I love this.
I feel like, again, we say it all the time.
I feel like the last, like, what, three, four times that we've,
decide that we've like either started streaming or started recording an episode stuff goes down
and two listen thank you basketball gods we do appreciate it it makes our life easier
makes these streams better keep doing your job please we're for a yapathon today
yep yep as you guys see we're going to talk about your guys's trade requests i mean trade
ideas on this episode you see by the title we're going to react to a trade request from twitter
to trade ideas from youtube community posts from the chat we're going to do all that later
the stream. But first, we have so much news to talk about. And obviously, we have to start
with the biggest storyline of the day, the one that came out of absolutely nowhere, well,
sort of came out of nowhere in terms of it breaking today. Deeran Fox is essentially
requested to trade. Per Shams Sharania, the Sacramento Kings are expected to open up talks
to potentially deal all-star De Aaron Fox ahead of the February 6th trade deadline, sources tell
the ESPN. There will be plenty of suitors, but it is believed that Fox is a target destination
in mind ahead of his 2026 free agency.
And where is that target destination?
Streets are saying, it's San Antonio.
Deeran's trying to come down, chill with the Mexicans, get over to Texas, have no state income tax, play with the best Mexican food in the country, play with...
The eat maturos, play with the best young star in the country.
All I can say is, thank God.
I've been waiting for this.
We've been wanting to see Deer & Fox play.
It wouldn't be so bad.
I'm glad to see that he also wants the same thing.
I am so happy
and I hope that San Antonio
by the end of this dream
trade for Deer and Fox
I'm putting
the clock I'm putting the timer on the San Antonio Spurs
front office get it done
there's no time like the present
why do why do tomorrow
what can't be done today
you see what I'm saying
like it just makes
it makes so much sense
and I'm like we talked about this
a while ago, like maybe about a month ago, where never like the Deere Fox trade rumor started
to like bubble up for a second. And I was saying like if I was dispersed, not that like obviously
I'm not going to be reckless. I'm not going to trade the farm and trade absolutely everything and like
decimate my all of my assets. But I am going to make a serious and legitimate push to go get
D.R. Fox because as Wembe has ascended into top 10 player, top eight player, whatever,
As he's gone there, you see that, like, the future is now.
And so you want to give him time to have another star so that not only can you have a little bit of help,
but the core that you're building has a very solid foundation and years to build on.
Like, Darren Fox is still super young.
He's not, he's not, like, he's been in the league for a while, but he is still, like, relatively young.
To have that and then Wembe, who's not even 21 years old, having that for the next four to five years to build upon,
that is, that's like, you know, as.
as good as you can ask for.
Chat, where do you guys want to see Deering Foxgo?
Obviously, the Spurs are top of mind for the current reports.
But like Sean said, there's going to be a lot of suitors.
A lot of people are going to try and, you know, throw their hat in the ring.
If it's up to you, Chad, where would you want to see him go from a fan perspective?
Yeah.
If I'm the Sacramento Kings, I take this as an insult.
Okay, you want to get traded?
Cool.
Even though we did all we can, you know, got you to Marta Rosen.
I'm not talking about me.
I'm talking about the Sacramento Kings.
Got you, DeMata Rosen, you know,
re-signed your man's.
Malik Monk, re-signed your guy
who helped elevate you in this team.
Domana is a bonus.
And you want to trade after we committed to you this much?
You know what?
Okay.
Gotcha.
Guess what?
I'm not sending you back home
or wherever you're from in San Antonio.
I'm not sending you where your family resides in San Antonio.
I'm not sending you to where the next future goat
over there resides in San Antonio.
Antonio, take his ass out of the country.
Send him to fucking Toronto, bro.
Do him the worst way if I'm in.
That's the best thing.
That's the best thing.
Anybody who ever, like, if a team has beef, you're all just like, get him out of here.
Send him to Canada.
What's funny is Toronto's an awesome city.
Great place to live.
But it's just so funny because it's another country.
Yeah.
It could be paradise.
And it's like, you're getting deported, buddy.
It doesn't matter.
It's hilarious in principle.
no it would be hilarious i don't expect the kings to behave spitefully because of the kings
and they are a what verb is i want to use right here moronic
uh lower third of the league ran organization
let's say unsurious unsurious apparently i saw a report i forgot the person's name i should
have wrote it down one of the local king's reporters that seems to be someone who's rather
credible in that market reported that after firing market
Brown, this team has a desire to make a playoff push, and that's probably going to factor
into their whatever trade package they accept.
That's kind of hilarious, because that means they're probably going to want winning out
players over young assets.
So if it is a spurs trade, maybe they want Vassell over Castle, which I guess that's a debate.
You can feel how you feel about Castle.
But that's probably going to impact things in how we see things go.
And that's obviously fucking dumb, because if you're losing Deeran Fox and you're losing
your 27-year-old All-Star and you're left with Demartor Rosen, Demontas, and Malik Monk,
That's a team.
It's one of the teams in the Western Conference.
It's not one of the best teams, even if you get some win-now pieces.
So it would be hilarious to see them try to pivot to be a worst version of what they are now,
which already isn't super promising.
Don't be nice.
If you trade Deer and Fox, that's one of the worst teams in the Western Conference.
Like, I don't have a lot of faith in Sacramento if they trade Deeran, even if they got like some,
I guess it depends on the wind-out guys.
But overall, like having to Monis at that point be the best player on your team definitively, that is what?
Yeah.
It sets you up to be the 12 seat.
It doesn't put you in a great position.
And then you are just trying to be the Western Conference Chicago Bulls at that point.
Yeah.
It's not only the wanting of being mid.
and like we are chasing a playoff spot
to be the eight or nine C, whatever,
it's the idea that we're now making this
our identity for the next two, three years
of we're going to be mid.
We're going to chase eight or nine C,
knowing that we don't have top end talent
to make it to the top of the Western Conference.
That's where you get bad.
It's okay if you're mid for a couple of years,
but you have to have an identity.
You have to have a plan in Sacramento time after time
whether they're good, bad in the middle.
they consistently showed that they don't know
what they want to do for the next two to three years
and I think that like the first year
like when the light the beams have happened
that was the first time in the long time
that the Kings actually looked like
we are moving in this direction
everybody is together and we're going one place
now you fire the coach
you're about to trade deering and you're back
just wandering in the wilderness it's not great
yeah people were spamming nuggets in the chat
and I thought nuggets would be really cool early in the season
when Jamal Murray is playing like shit.
They can't trade Jamal Murray anyways right now.
But Jamal Murray is looking more like Jamal Murray,
so they probably won't try to make anything happen
in terms of replacing a long-term point guard.
But it would be cool in theory to see Deerey next to Yokic,
so I see why your head is there,
probably not realistic.
I'm also seeing rockets and I'm also saying magic.
That I do find realistic.
I find those teams to be extremely realistic.
I don't know if the Houston Rockets are super realistic right now.
I mean, it might be.
It's probably more, yeah, it might be because they have a whole new,
eat those going on over there
and they just have a whole lot of like new found
like they're doing a whole lot of restructure in their
organization there and they have so much success right now
so but I still feel like
kind of if I'll pull the trigger so fast
because you're still trying to realign like
who are the guys like the top dog on this team
and you have a new guy who didn't come out
come up on a nowhere but he's like taking the fucking rings
of this team and that's for the Orlando Magic
it feels like he is legitimately of the
missing piece as good as the Orlando Magic
have been known to be
over the last 24 months.
This year, they still have the worst offense in the entire NBA.
I think they're 30th or 29th.
That's insane.
That's ridiculous to go ahead and talk about and think about this series
content, this serious playoff team who we know can make certain strides
and has the potential best case scenarios to make the East of Carpins finals,
but they just held back in so many ways.
Yeah, the magic definitely need, they need a point guard.
We've been saying this.
I guess they need time to see how Franz and Paulo continue to develop.
it wouldn't be shocking.
Is DeRen Fox a right type of point guard for them?
Like, I feel like I want more of a shooter.
Maybe you just, like, if you have three slasters that are that amazing,
maybe that's just like enough oomph that it's okay.
You surround them with two shooters and like really let them play a downhill
demon-style basketball.
But I kind of want more of like a shooting specials in that point guard position
if I'm going to go all in and get somebody big.
I agree.
I think like Deeran is, obviously like adding Deerrin would be an upgrade at,
at playmaking and getting as much playmaking in the building means something for them.
But, and so, like, you can, you can't see it work.
And so it's like, okay, if the ball is in, if the ball is in Deeran's hands and it's in Franz's
hands, I think overall it would make the team better, very curious to see how Palo,
obviously, like, he's the franchise player there, but I'm very curious to see how he
adjust to that situation because you would have another person who plays with the ball
in his hands and we were talking on the episode last week about how hey it's it's good like the best
version of palos whenever he's you know cutting off ball doing all that maybe getting the air
forces him into a situation like that but i think that for this year for this year kind of shakes
some stuff up where i i'm with you i think i would like a little bit more shooting but honestly
listen just get talent in the building like you're you're you're in Orlando and i'm not even
trying to hate, you're not going to get those guys in free agency. You have to go out and make
those kinds of moves right now. Dude, I just saw someone in chat say Fox for Conley, which obviously
wouldn't be just that. I mentioned, the Kings want to have a win-nell mandate, apparently. They
want to continue to try to find win-now players. What if, what if this dumbass franchise
throws and Timberwolves a life raft for the Julius Randall contract?
Stop it.
Julius Randall and DeVantz-Sabonis front court,
along with Demard de Rosenro.
This is like a basketball nerds' worst nightmare.
This is absolutely hell basketball.
It'd be so gross, but like, what if?
Obviously, it'd be much bigger deal than that.
They want assets in return.
It wouldn't be that simple.
It would be many team deals.
Yeah, whatever would be.
It would be multi-team trades to get picks and whatever.
But like, I could see a world in which they end up with Julius Randall.
because they want to remain good
and add wins to the stat sheet.
That would just be so funny.
I'm not watching the Kings and say,
I know it's our job to like stay.
Why am?
I'm not doing that.
It's not.
I will watch them through Twitter.
I'm not sitting down
and dedicating an hour and app
two hours of my life
to watching Kings basketball
if they have Julius Randall
and DeMondon's.
I would love it for it.
I would love it for the Timberwolves
to get Deeran Foxx to Anthony Davis.
I mean,
Anthony Edwards. It would be awesome. And I would also love it for the Kings because I love having
a stooge franchise to laugh at. Their fans get so upset because we're constantly calling them
stooges and we're constantly saying their stars aren't as good as people that want to compare
them to. And I would like them to remain in my life. I would like there to be mid for us to point to
and be like at least our favorite teams aren't that. I know. Sometimes you need variety because
it's good for the ecosystem. Yeah, obviously for me like the clippers are always just going to be
that sometimes you get sometimes you get tired right you don't want to eat you don't want to eat chicken
every day sometimes you want beef right sometimes you want fish you want you want you want several
options for dinner and several options the teams that you can laugh at so i get i get it i know what the
kings are the kings are a goddamn big mac it's just just chum that you can just plow out
through it's bad for you it's not good it's not good for anybody but sometimes you got to eat it that's
hilarious right it's red dye 40 it's hot cheetos it's all that
It's hard you down sometimes.
Many of times, actually.
Exactly.
We'll see where this continues to develop.
It's looking like they're going to try to force themselves to the Spurs.
We all know Rich Paul is good at forcing what they want.
So if the Spurs are interested and they actually want to make this move at this time,
I can see it happening.
I also could see a world where the Spurs are like,
we're going to remain patient, we appreciate the interest.
We'll return to this conversation later on.
But right now we're going to stand Pat and try to get one more draft pick.
I could imagine that world too
Okay
So if you were the San Antonio Spurs
This question is for both of you guys
What would you feel comfortable with giving up
This is going back to like
The Devin Vesel
Stefan Castle conversation
And whoever else you want to go
I'm fine getting rid of Vesel
Vesel can definitely go
Vesel and Picks is totally fine with me
If they'd rather have Castle
Than Vesel
That's also fine with me
One of those guards plus picks
It's fine
Wow Castle's fine with you
Yeah Castle's good
Like he's a good player
He's not like some bona fide star
that you've got to hold on to.
Like, I think we'll be a very good player for a long time,
but I don't think we'll be some top five player
in as a position that we need to really covet
no matter what.
That's crazy.
He's lighting everything just fast.
Oh, my God.
I don't even know
What the fuck
What moves
No
Is this spell over
Dude don't cry
Someone said the rats
Been in the gym
The rats
Bringing him into the mud
The rats ain't is Kim
This motherfuck is on the ground
bro. The street's got
them. All right, you go
ahead and mute your mic and you can figure that shit
out. Hook everything back up.
Oh, my God.
That replay's gonna be crazy.
Chat,
record that and set it to be on Twitter, please.
You get out of here.
Please.
That's hilarious.
Okay.
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The next news story
Another juicy trade story
The Warriors are one of several teams
Back in the mix for Jimmy Butler
Now that the heat have lowered their asking price
Y'all I used to pray for times like this
all seasons we've talked about the warriors and the only thing we've been able to say is god this team
sucks god please get them another star jimmy bowler's there make it happen it's what you owe step
is the fit perfect no inject some talent on this bitch please and apparently they weren't trying to do
that a lot of all the reports have been saying they're not interested the price is too high gross gross
gross we don't want that yuck fuck wins they kept getting worse and jimmy baller's now gotten cheaper
because he's been crashing out in biblical fashion apparently they're in
now donovan do you want to see this yeah i do easily i want to see this and i think this is
this is honestly the way that i think front offices should start to move and this would be the one
reason why if i were the spurs i would wait on d aaron fox because you can just wait and then
tell the guy hey go start acting a fool in public and then the price would be lowered right this is
the exact like the warriors probably this is like the the best outcome that they could have hoped for
that the price on Jimmy Butler would be blowing it until now like I'm worried you you got the clip
well no Mo just texted us there's a AI generated like chat summary on YouTube now
when you were watching on a stream and the chat summary says viewers are reacting in shock
and disbelief to the news of Mo's death speculating on how it happened and expressing their
condolences this AI's fucking ridiculous it's saying Moe died on the stream
That's ridiculous
That's ridiculous
So it was an alternate title
Mo gets traded to the Wizards Live
So what were you saying?
I can't believe that
Let's just take a moment
I really can't believe that that just happened
Mo's giving us
Some of the best moments in T3 history
From his camera crashing out here
To the rat running across his screen
in real time, it's been a ride.
And we really do have, we really do have to thank the rats for like their dedication
to the content.
I really do appreciate them.
I think, okay, what's up?
No, no, I was just, I was just saluting the world.
Wow.
Now, listen, shout out to the Warriors.
They, they're annoying.
They're just annoying to watch because they go out and they play bad basketball for 48 minutes.
And then Steph Curry looks sad, and we're like, yeah, go, go trade for somebody.
And they're like, no, we like what we have.
It's like, you guys keep losing.
Please, trade for somebody.
Don't want to.
Like, no.
You're like, just because you told us, no, we're not.
Actually, I won't.
Oh, God.
Don't leave you.
Can you do something?
Can you trade?
You can do what you did before.
You can trade four second rounders again and get like GP2 or something.
Can you do something?
And they just refuse to do anything.
So, yeah, I hope they go out and get Jimmy Butler.
I think it would be a very nice switch up to what they have.
It would help Steph Curry because obviously he is not prime Steph Curry.
He's not even in 2022, Steph Curry.
Like, you can't ask him to go out and play for 36 minutes a night,
average in the high 20s on super efficiency and carry this team.
This team sucks.
And Steph is not at that level.
So it's just not built for them to be a play in, like, six,
successful playing team second round team anymore yeah which is wow because that's the bar that we're
asking for you be a competitive playing second round team when i ain't talk not talking about championships
man so obviously i want to see the warriors get jimmy that'd be the best case scenario just
to give step a lifeline to have some sort of relevancy and not go out sad like dirk and cobi did
with a terrible team around him but no that tweet said there are among other teams that are now
going to be interested in Jimmy Butler with the price being cheaper.
Who else can't that be?
Because we also got a report today from Legion Hoops per at Michael Grange, a reporter.
The Raptors are looking for a significant piece to pair with Scotty Barnes.
Could you imagine a world in which they try to get Jimmy?
Which is probably R.J. Barrett's salary plus one more young player, O'Shea Baguji,
maybe, and then a pick or two if it's going to be cheaper.
Like, nah, no, I don't see.
I can, okay, I can see where they would get to to be like, yes, let's make the move.
I would not do it.
I would not do it.
I think that your timeline is still very off.
And considering that you are still at the bottom of the league and you have an opportunity to be,
to have a really, really good draft pick, I would not change anything for this season.
Any move that they make, yeah, any move that they make to go help Scotty Barnes should be done in the off season.
But right now, we are tanking.
That is what we are doing.
And we should stick to that for the rest of the year.
Someone said, when is Moe coming back?
My guy, do I look like I know?
Do I look like I know?
The man's camera just fell down.
Like, what do you think?
Oh, shit, he's back.
Oh.
They try to hold a real one down.
I died.
They try to say I fell off.
We both get back with these goddamn takes.
What the hell it ain't talking about?
They said FL off.
What are they talking about?
He's talking about nothing.
Chad said he's back.
Y'all, it's spam.
He defeated the rats, y'all.
Give him some love.
He looks out of breath.
You look like you've actually been fighting.
He's all slumped in his chair.
He's tired.
You've got to recover.
It took me some time.
Why the hell do I open up my phone,
open up the YouTube chat specifically?
Do you see what's happening?
and this new YouTube AI feature,
I think you talked about it.
I said that I fucking died.
Like, everyone just got like,
better question.
Better question.
Why did I open my phone just now
and I see a push notification
from the BR app that says
the Lakers are starting
Rui Hachimori again
after missing two games?
We just saw them dominate
with Doring Finney Smith starting.
Why the fuck are they starting this dude?
Oh, wow.
You know what time of this.
Your guy.
That's your guy.
You know what time is.
It is audition season.
You go out there, you put on your best performance.
Everybody, everybody wants to see what you can do, Rory.
Their net rating with DFS starting is so ridiculous right now.
That lineup is so clearly better, having Christie and DFS as two actual three and D guys next to their three main players.
What the fuck is JJ Red at cooking right now?
This is crazy.
Nothing.
It's not JJ.
He got that call from Politica.
He said, start him?
Yes.
Polyka's like, please, I need help.
Nobody would trade for him.
He needs to put together.
three straight games so yeah this probably what's going on yeah the broadcasting is value you can't
bench him now yeah also i mean saying that he suspended jimmy butler until further notice so he's just
out of there until he straighted which is quite funny oh man yeah man if i'm jimmy that weak-ass
knees if i was jimmy i'm hopping on that first plane from miami to whatever island is near
whichever one of my choice and i'm hanging out until i get the call for my agent that
been traded. I'm going away. I don't have time to get you. How would you feel if me and
Isaac had a meeting one day, talked to amongst ourselves, came up into the podcast. I was like,
yeah, Donald, you can sit one, sit this one out. We got your dad filling in for you today.
Let's go back from where we'll get you like when it comes to TikTok time. I'll be fine. I'd be
fine. He loved that.
All right, man, next story.
The Warriors are retiring on Andre Agada's number.
His jersey, I mean.
Good for that.
Clubbing up for Andre Goddawa.
Yeah.
One of the five members from what's it, what's it?
Yo, man, shut out drink chips, right?
Awesome.
Clubing up for drink champ.
That's crazy.
Shout to the Hampton 5 is that you're referring to.
Shout out.
Yeah.
OGs and the death line at the Hampton 5.
It makes sense.
They're going to retire a jersey.
He's pivotal there.
Not only is he part of the dynasty, he's what jump started it,
them signing him, made them competitive in like 2013.
He was like their version of like bringing the veteran and teach him how to win.
Like they did with Fred Van Vleet in Houston or whatever else.
And it worked.
He taught the motherfuckers how to win to win to the highest degree.
Yeah.
He taught him how to save money.
taught him how to navigate.
In the NBA, he's just like he's one of the ultimate OGs.
Saved us from the Martians' point, the death beam at Earth?
That's a legacy.
That's a legacy.
Bro, how crazy.
The NBA would not be the same without Andreu Doudal's presence whatsoever.
He's so important, so pivotal in so many aspects.
Yeah.
Also, I think as like the NBA goes on longer and longer, I think we need to retire the idea of getting your jersey retired.
I think that there's only so many.
like there's only so many there's only so many cool numbers that people have held like nine is it's a
it's a very solid number what do you mean nobody can wear the number nine for the next like 50 years
all which you should have you should have it like in football just have like the ring of honor or
whatever your name can go up there but somebody has to wear number nine we can't be having people
out here wearing 71 29 it's just weird stuff I think they should be doing it but they got a de-retired
numbers after a while yeah bring them back into
simulation after 35 years.
What are the qualifications for a number to be, like, de-retire?
You got to have another ceremony.
Here's the thing.
If your number gets de-retired, you get a statue.
Okay.
It has to be one or the other.
I have too many ugly-ass statues around there.
It's the ultimate disrespect.
To tell somebody, yes, you will be immortalized.
Nobody will ever wear your number.
You are that significant.
And then 30 years goes by and it's like,
Actually, we're going to need that back in rotation.
I need that back.
You see, the way errors worked out, the way the pace the game changes,
your numbers are kind of mid now, and the kids think you're whack.
So we're going to pull that jersey back down because Luca Donchis needs that number.
Exactly.
So it's like, yeah, it's either number of times.
You should be able to pick.
They're saying you're a plumber.
I'm sorry.
They're saying you're a plumber.
We can't have plumbers in the rafters.
You've got to take it down.
Sorry, Bob.
okay next story which is also related but it's another report similarly per vince goodwill
i've heard that philly quietly could be a student for jimmy butler theoretically would be jimmy for
paul george swap i believe that imbid is pushing for them to reacquire jimmy that would make
sense jill jill jimmy baller and joan bid were guys they were dudes i think that's probably
one of jill and b's favorite teammates two of his three favorite teammates of all time or one of his
favorite team was of all time point easily and I think what the fuck has paul george done or given
i like how you i like how you pump fake the point blake period what is he done for the six
no no if the sixes can get this done if darrow morning can get this done instantly i don't
care what happens for the rest of the year i don't care what the record is he gets executive of
the year if you can immediately get off of this pa george contract you got it right
because I don't I don't know I don't know where fully goes from here and like obviously you're
not going to win the championship this year your future is looking very very rocky with
embit's health Paul George's health all that stuff the one thing that you had going for
yourself is that Tyrese maxi was always happy and Jeremy McCain looked like a pocketful of
sunshine if you get some more vibes in the building that is a start and then also having a decent
player in that spot could work could you imagine my first why the fuck when
miami want philly's uh paula george's contract that would be hilarious like they don't
want bills contract you know what paul george that would be well so either way either either
either either way right i think yeah i okay i guess i i don't know however they don't want to
suck. They don't, they don't want to, they don't want to, so I can see them taking Bradley
Beale or Paul George's contract. I just think that they probably would take Paul George.
Honestly, with how, without a bad deal either way. With how diminished Jimmy Bowler's trade value
is, I, I can see a world in where they take, fuck, it will take Paul George just to fucking
spite someone like Jimmy Buller for whatever reason. If we remember, if I remember, if I remember
correctly last or a couple years ago when the Minnesota or the Timberwolves went ahead
and traded away Jimmy Butler they got like barely nothing for him I think they got like
Jared Bayless and like two second round picks and I don't know like some of the random like
big power forward or whatever is they got basically got him for like free 99 and so with that
being said Paul George hey that shit isn't played because he's basically free 99 he is I don't
like the Robert Covington erasure I love Robert
going to, man. Speaking of players, I love. Speaking of defensive specialists, we got to talk about
last night, Amen Thompson, gaming the Boston Celtics, finishing it. He hit this mid-range fadeaway
for the game winner. After the game was over, he went to the reporters and did his little post-game
press conference. He said, I've never hit a game winner before. I feel like Kobe. And it was dope.
There's already a Jordi edit out there of that. It's lovely. And listen, this has been long been.
This guy was usually pushing Jordy's page.
This has long been a pro-a-man-Thompson show.
If you've known this, ever since he's drafted, he has been my guy.
We are full-on Thompson-Pill, Thompson twin-pilled, especially in men.
We've been said he's going to be the best player on this team.
It's a matter of when, not if.
Now it's here.
I have this tweet pulled up.
I want to get your opinion on.
This guy, Wilder Adams, says,
players under 25, I would clearly take over-a-man-Thompson long-term.
Virthi Women Yama
Anthony Edwards
Palo Bancaro
that is it
he's in the convos
with Chet and Cade
etc
how do you guys feel about this
I'm gonna crazy
wow that's
it's crazy to think
that you're with that
I love that
I love how a lot of people
been giving him
so much attention
as far as in realizing
the disgusting run
that he's been on
as he's been starting
but you're gonna sit here
and tell me that
yeah you'd rather have
someone like
a man
than K. Cunningham?
I don't know.
The line for me is Chet.
Chet's the line.
Chet's the one that I would go back and forth on.
I would rather have moving forward.
I would rather have a man Thompson
than than Kate Cunningham, I think.
Okay.
What the fuck are we talking about right now?
I'd rather have.
I'd rather have is crazy.
But if you want to tell me, it's in the conversation.
Yeah, it's a discussion.
Yeah, it's a discussion.
I think that, like, ultimately, from what I'm seeing of a man
this young in his career,
I think that if I had to make a decision right now,
I would probably take a man.
Yeah, it's not crazy.
Honestly, he's so young.
He's in year two.
This is the first time he got an opportunity to start and get real minutes.
He shines and he's playing at a damn near star level.
A lot of young players, you're like, give him time, give the situation, yada, yada.
This is not a good situation for him.
He did not take much time.
The second he got a single opportunity, he thrived, that's the sign of a real star player.
do you see good spacing around him for him to attack and be this lead ball handler slashing?
Not really.
Do you see a ton of ball handling grips for him to do this thing and shine with the ball on his hands?
Not really.
He's just getting it out of the mud and thriving in a less than ideal situation.
Imagine if it was ideal.
Imagine if they recalibrated and they play through him.
It's his team.
There's a huge chilling here that we hadn't even touched yet.
So if you're going to go on the hill that he's going to be better than Cade long term,
I don't know if I'm willing to go there, but I do not think it's crazy.
I think the better conversation is like someone like Scottie Barnes.
That's like more comparable.
And that's like, okay, like you can you can sway me that way.
I don't find that common would be that different.
I don't think Scottie's that far behind Cade.
I'm let you know something right now, player.
I'm taking a men Thompson over Scotty.
Me too.
The ceiling, the ceiling for a man is super high because if he figures out,
I don't, I don't think a man is ever going to be like a high volume,
very high efficient three-point shooter in that way.
Like, I just, I doubt it's not going to happen.
But if, but if you can get to obviously a respectable level, that's cool.
The fact that he can be this impactful without being a shooter, that is amazing.
Because even if he's not the best player on your team, he can be the second best player
on your team if he's not like the 1A scoring guy, whatever.
But you can put him in so many situations.
that it works and he can be a, you know, this wild downhill demon who plays insane defense.
Like, Amman Thompson, yo, Amin Thompson is one of like the best perimeter defenders in the league.
And his athleticism, his athleticism and his defense and his playmaking, his overall feel for the game is crazy.
So that having him right now in year two and thinking if you can get to be, what, 30,
3, 34% from 3.
Like, if you could shoot
slightly better
than Russell Westbrook
for your career,
please, you are welcomed
on my team
any day of the week.
Dude, he's,
I don't know,
he's so hard to project
because he's one of the
most unique players
he's seen in a long time.
Like you said,
he doesn't need a good shot
to be a good player.
And that's so rare
because of the modern NBA,
like, especially from a perimeter guy
playing like the one through three,
if you don't have a single modicum
of a three-point shot,
it's almost a non-star.
of you being a star player, right?
Like, the only one of you saying do it in recent years
is Ben Simmons, who is deeply flawed,
even at his best, and was deeply controversial,
even at his best.
He has a little bit more of a shot than Ben Simmons,
but even if we're saying it's equivalent
under both currently non-shooters entirely,
a men's already developed a little bit of a mid-range shot,
which he didn't have last year.
He's already developed, he's much better
than one's last season.
Defensively, his motor is crazier,
his instincts are better,
the playmaking is coming around.
He continuously proves that he is going to be in the lab
every summer trying to get better.
the work ethic is going to be second to none forever.
That's not something people really associate with Ben Simmons.
So I feel very good on betting on a guy who's already proven to be able to be so athletic
that he breaks the mold of needing to shoot.
I feel comfortable that he'll be able to shoot a little bit eventually.
What's only interesting to me when we talk about the Ben Simmons comparison a little bit
is like he hasn't even been given like the full key to the offense just yet.
He's not like over here pounding the air out of the ball.
Coming out of the NBA draft, coming out of OTE, like everyone, he was a point guard.
Everyone knows that.
That's a long, that's so differentiates himself compared to his brother.
He has the ball handling chops, the vision and all then.
We still see that until this day, but he's not allowed to, like, go ahead and play fully that way because of Fred Vainbleeds of the world exists, Jalen Green, and also, like, Alfred Singoon.
He's, like, third or fourth in terms of pecking order in terms of, like, how they choose to distribute the ball.
and I think I need to see more of that
which I feel confident
he'll be able to go ahead and prove
he's worthy of that type of position and role
but once that happen
then the stock's going to the fucking mood.
Yeah, like he's compared to Ben Simmons a lot
and that the only way he's similar to Ben Simmons
is that he's a guard that's good at defense
and can't shoot.
Otherwise, they're very different players
like he moves in a way that reminds me
of like John Morant,
the way that he can move so side to side
and blow by people even when they help off
him a lot because he's so fast, jumps
so high, has such crazy lateral
quickness to attack and, like, get around
defenders. He's slithery as shit
and moves in such a dynamic way
attack in the rim that Ben Simmons has never
had that.
So, like,
to me, it's like John Moran.
It makes it Andre Goddala.
Something else about, like,
athleticism that I'll even, like, chip in there
as well, is that his second jump
is ridiculous. Yeah.
Yeah. John Moran with Zion's second jump.
Exactly. That's all, that's,
exactly what I was just about to say.
Like, his second jump is unforeseen, bro.
Yeah.
I just, the, the fact that he is actively developing a jumper and, like, isn't scared.
Like, people were, like, screaming at Ben Simmons to take threes in preseason games.
Yeah.
And a man is just not scared to do that in a regular season game.
It's fine.
And like Isaac said, like, the work ethic is obviously something that's been, like, lauded
and it's not going to be an issue for them.
So, yeah, I think that the stock on the men is super, super high.
So I would have, yeah, if we're doing 25 and under drafts,
at the absolute worst, I think, six is right there.
And that's if you think that Cade and Chet are like definitively better just because
they're better right now and you can, you know, keep moving, moving forward.
But in terms of the stock, you, a man has to do.
You take a j-double rim?
No.
Jay does better right now, but I think Amend is a higher ceiling for sure.
Yeah.
He's what having right now.
Yeah, I think, I think Amin Thompson would be the best stock to buy right now.
Good thing I bought it a year ago.
I'm fucking filthy rich right now.
My net worth is ridiculous.
Yeah, Bitcoin and 08 for sure.
Yep.
He's got it.
Yeah, listen, but towards the end of the regular season, we're going to do our annual, well, I can't talk.
Amruel.
We're going to do our annual...
Annual.
It's about the grace to stop it.
We're going to do our annual top 25 players under 25 years old.
It's going to be very interesting to see where we rank of Matt Thompson.
You're whopping out because I wasn't even going to go there.
He wants to go there.
I know he just threw it into the E-Pace.
Because I'm here.
are you guys you guys get there
our next new story
did you guys see the demar de rosen situation
and how all of betting Twitter
was undergoing mass psychosis together
just being brain dead together
with their one brain cell
what happened fill me in
he's telling me about it
i just saw the tweets
so we got this tweet from at jay not henny
he says so after the demar de rosen situation
we can finally admit 100%
the NBA is a fixed league along with the nfl
there's no more debate around it.
It's been known for a while,
but we can now put that combo to rest after tonight.
25,000 likes, 25,000 degenerates
who were like, yeah, I think it's actually rigged against me.
I think I'm, I have to lose.
Because what happened was,
prize picks promoted a discounted line
for DeMarters and Rebounds at 3.5.
I guess normally it's 5.5 or something of the sort.
It was lower tonight.
So naturally a bunch of people jumped on it.
They promoted it heavy as part of their parlays, obviously.
I think the number was there was like
fucking 200,000 people who did it.
I think that's public.
And DeMarre got four rebounds.
Then the price picks app rewarded people.
They paid it out.
They congratulated people for hitting on this discounted line.
Then the game ended.
And there was a stat correction because one of the rebounds he had,
Alex Lynn tipped it out to him and DeMarter Rosen caught it.
If you know NBA rules, that means it Alex Lynn's rebound because the Tyson Chandler ruled.
So, stack correction happens all the time, right?
They went out and they fixed it.
They said, nope, actually, it's under rebound.
for Demard de Rosen.
And because the nature in which
it was promoted
as this thing
that they want you to bet on
and then you win
and they say,
oh, actually no,
all these dumbasses
convince themselves
that it's rigged
that the NBA
took time out of
their busy schedule
to go to prize picks
the fifth biggest
sports book in North America
and rig a
Demar de Rosen
rebounds line.
And not only did they
rig it,
they fucked up or something
and then they had to go back
and change it.
Do you understand
how fucking
dumb this is and how insane these people are.
Listen,
listen,
Isaac,
you don't understand this.
This is some of people's rent money,
bro.
This is how some people we're going to eat.
Okay,
if I was as down bad as them,
again,
I'm not a better.
I never bet a single day in my life.
But if I was in their shoes,
I'll be thinking the same exact thing.
They're out to get me.
That's what they all feels.
Everybody wants to take my money.
They're out to get me.
They want me to lose.
I can't just suck at this.
Surely there's a bigger plot at play.
And they're all
How many, how many likes of that we have?
25,000.
If 25,000 people feel that way,
25,000 people are idiots.
Because if you are acknowledging that it's rigged,
there's one of two things that you can do.
You can either say,
okay, this whole thing is rigged.
Let me bet on the side that I know
that they're going to rig it for
or you cannot bet on a rigged product.
You can just not do that all in all, right?
But you continue to do it.
Why?
Because you haven't called that hotline.
Call the number.
1-800 gambler.
Go get some help.
If you know that it's,
you know what I'm saying?
Like,
if you know that it's rigged,
if you know that you are indulging
in a step-down product,
get off the product.
Stop doing it.
You don't have to do this.
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next up we got something else real fucking stupid to talk about
after that betting tobacco
and that is
the latest Kyle Kuzma quote
y'all he's done it again
he's broken the internet by saying the stupidest thought
that's ever occurred to his brain he let it out
he said
Kyle Kuzn says he's done trying to fit in on the wizards
he was asked how did you do so well today
because he scored 30 points a couple games ago
he said I think today
I just decided to be myself
and not really try to fit into everything that we're doing here,
just being more assertive,
demanding the ball,
not just going out there
and trying to let people develop,
just playing my game.
I'm really shocked.
I'm really shocked, honestly,
that Kyle Kuzma doesn't have his own podcast by now.
I'm right, like, as much as you've heard Kyle Kuzman talk on social media,
the fact that, like, everybody has a player podcast,
and Kuzma and or his team has not,
said yeah let's put a mic in front of you one time a week like just get your thoughts out just
unfiltered right we can we can really do something dangerous i'm shocked i'm shocked
bring him over here to td3 productions we got td3 got p 94 i'm off let me say all this stupid
shit he wants we can get Kyle kuzman his own spin-off show like i just yeah i'm just like i
can produce some shows we'll get him right let's make a couple guys hey Kyle kuzma let's work
What are we talking about here?
Yo, let's build.
Let's do, brother.
Put that knee him right now.
Yeah, so this is fucking stupid.
He is a player who is pushing 30 years old.
He's a good player, but he is not to the level in which any teams be built around him.
He is clearly in his next destination going to be on a team that's trying to win games, presumably, and need him to buy into a role, right?
Apparently the Mavs won him last year before they got PJ Washington, and he said, now I'm good.
I'm going to stay on the Wizards and just get my motherfucking buckets.
then this year came around
they said
Kyle we'd like you to get
a little bit less buckets
so we can develop the young guys
who matter for the future
he obviously isn't liking that
but what does he expect to come from this
a team is going to say like
actually I think we would want
Kyle Cousin to get
motherfucking buckets for us
so we can be with the Wizardsware last year
I think that'd be great
we'd also like number two pick
or does he think a team
that is good and he's going to want
his services is going to see this
and feel encouraged
probably not
like this is so stupid
for the value of Kyle Cusma
well Utah
on that line
I know they want the number two pick
He wants to be a professional tank commander
Is that what he wants for his career?
He's already at that point
Like it's it's it's it's been like that
You know so I think like there
There was a time where Kyle Kuzma
Could have been a very very like helpful
And instrumental piece to like another championship situation
I that time is just not
It's just it's passed and the fact
that like he clearly has it in his mind he's been converted he's played for the wizards long enough
and he's been in a bad situation to where he's like all that I care about is getting my money
and getting buckets that's who Kyle Kuzma is at this point so whatever idea that you had of
like a helpful role player that's not gone no he took the man there's the red pill and the blue pill
he took the wrong one now he cares about is money and buckets but even then if if he really
cares about money like he would sit down and realize like oh shit like my contract
is deloading for the next two years
I want to make a 19 mil a couple years bro
he needs to like correct
how people feel about him
and his play on the fucking court
play a role be a bet
the formula that people see
buckets equals money
that's what he thinks that's what it's like
not all but not all buckets are equal
though we know this
you know that he might not want to believe that
all right man that's enough calclusion talk i can't do it anymore good lord let's move on to the
quarter that's all it takes one cut two free throws you're on the pace for 20
it's simple all right man so let's do what the title of this episode says let's react to you
guys's trade ideas for the day a shout to shrimp de ream for tipping three dollars shout
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I tweeted out on the T3 Twitter yesterday
to add us with your best trade ideas
and we'll react to them.
And I have a absolute fuck ton
a trade idea is to show you guys
for us to talk about.
Let's start.
Let's show I'm sharing to it.
From Tyler Schwartz,
he says it spent an hour and a half on this one.
This is a four-team trade.
This better be good.
Phoenix receives Jimmy Butler,
Chris Bouchet, and Dave Yon Mitchell.
Milwaukee receives Bradley Beal,
Monta Mores
Garrett Temple
in a first round pick
Miami receives
Chris Middleton
Bobby Portis
in a first round pick
and Toronto
receives
Usen Ericich
Pat Conninton
in a first round pick
As soon as I heard
Bradley Bill
Milwaukee I stopped listening
so I don't know
I don't know what the last
team said
I don't like you
for that specific reason
because again
pairing Dame
and Bradley Beal
don't love that at all
I think the
the main winner in this
would be
who would the main winner
would probably be
Phoenix Phoenix yeah
they gave it a Nurkich and Beal
and bringing Butler Bouchet
Dave you're all right
dub yeah like
yeah you get another big who
Chris Boucher's not like
I'm thinking about a tanking team
getting Nurkich
and be like yeah we're on our way
that's a good point
that's a good point
they're on the way
they're on the way
to the next several
fucking lottery things
Nirkint will help you achieve that goal
that's what I'm saying
saying. That's what I'm saying. You are trying to tank. You get Nerkitz and you get a first
for a team that has, for a team and like, I don't know who this first is coming from. I'm assuming
from Phoenix, but you would get, you would get a first round pick from a team that has old
Kevin Durant and old Jimmy Butler and is on the verge of as it is. It's not bad. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, there's obviously there was an initial report that people thought Milwaukee was interested
in Bradley Beale and the Chris Haynes came out and he was like, so I
I've heard they don't fucking want him at all.
Thankfully, they're probably not going to try to pair Bradley Biel with Damien Lillard.
But, you know, if you just replace Milwaukee with whatever other team out there maybe wants Bradley Biel and that maybe he's willing to waive his absurd no trade clause, I see the vision outside of that.
If you just replace Milwaukee with somebody else.
But then the Middleton of it all changes, I don't know.
Yeah, it does, it does change so much.
It does change so much.
Why the hell will Miami want Chris Middleton and Bobby Porters?
Because they want to be mid.
They do want to be mid.
they want they want to be mid it so question for you guys though if you guys were
Milwaukee obviously like star aside is there any situation where you guys would feel inclined
to trade chris middleton right now yes any situation yeah if i can get an upgrade i'm one day
to go i'm not actively looking like middleton got to go but if the deal of right deal approaches
like he can go like if zach levine if they if they like that fit i i think middleton can go
Interesting. So if it was, if it was Dame Levine, Prince, Dan, yeah, Dame Levine, Prince.
Yonis Brooke. Lopez? I moved. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let's do it.
Speaking of Zach Levine, next trade from Max Picks. He says,
Zach Levine for Kelton Johnson, Harrison Barnes, and the Bulls 2025 first round pickback.
So basically, is Zach Levine for contracts and their own pick for this year?
that's a steal i'll take that i don't know if i want to give the value has been what do you
so fans are realizing he's good do you feel like front offices are going to see this and value zach
levin more than a single first trump pick no probably i think yeah i don't i don't think so because
something that you said um i think a couple episodes ago whenever we were talking about zach
Levine was that the overall like group think in NBA circles and even like like NBA front
offices are not immune to hearing everybody say this guy has a bad contract so it's a bad
contract I don't think that the bulls are immune to that so I don't think that they would
necessarily be like oh yeah Zach Levine is this this and this especially after last season
where nobody wanted him so they probably still are a little bit on that spectrum of like it probably
like we probably can't ask for a massive hall for that yeah okay i don't know if the chicago
if the san antonio spurs will be in position to willingly take someone like zach levin he is
a little bit older i think he might be just freshly 30 or 29 or something like that
i'm not to say he doesn't like match the timeline because wemby's going to be good forever
in zach levine can't imagine he his athletic isn't going to like wither away anytime soon
but i just don't the exact convene is moving the needle necessarily as much as you want
Okay.
Exactly.
I got another bulls-related trade.
Yeah.
I got another Bulls-related trade from local Bulls fan on Twitter.
Oh, wrong monitor.
He says,
Yusuf Nurkich in the 2025 first-round pick from the Sons for Patrick Williams.
They take on Nurtz's deal and they get a first-on-pick for Pat Williams.
Does Pat Williams move you to the Sons?
It's thought about Pat Williams.
It's about moving away from Nirk-it's in my mind.
Yeah, I mean, that's great.
But it's only worth moving there
because you're getting something useful in return,
especially for one of those first-round picks.
I would do it.
I think if this trade happened,
I think Chicago would fleece.
Yeah, Patrick Williams kind of sucks.
Mm-hmm.
He's T. definitely suck.
Yeah, I'm just, I'm not the biggest Pat Williams fan.
I'll put it like that.
You guys said, say what you guys said?
That's what I'm saying.
can flip those two guys on, you know, the level of not really for my team and you are on the
side that's getting the first round pick. Yeah, you can use it. Ooh, here's an interesting one.
The Bucks get Denny Avdiha and Robert Williams. The Blazers get Chris Middleton and a first
round pick. I think it might cost more because Denny's been really fucking good this year.
But in general, depending on the conversation getting tweaked, do you like Denny and Robert Williams
of the bucks. Obviously, Robert Williams can play like four games in a row before his knees
explode, but Denny's interesting. Denny's a great player, bro. He's the best player on the,
on the trailblazers, which, you know, it is what it is. But in transition, his defense,
good, you know, passing is there. He's a, he's a great all-round player. And him coming
off the bench or starting or whatever for the scene, filling in the gaps, it'll be amazing.
And Robert Williams, we all know what he is at the, at the peak of his game, which is like,
you know, can he be on the court? He's good. He just does good things all the time.
but they actually had that I don't know
someone says the Blazers front office
is brain dead enough to actually do this
I mean yeah
you can probably
I actually don't know
two first time picks for Denny
that seems a bit rich
so maybe that's not the case
yeah that's the
and Robert Williams
is you
they would sell him for free
not for free before I get second round
a couple second round picks
is the market for Rob Williams
so yeah
we sell this now
I would have been I would I would do it if I was Milwaukee I would I would do it
I think I think Danny would give you something that you that you need and then we continue
to talk about this team like they are you know an older team Rob Will he's always hurt but
he's still pretty athletic and just getting getting some people who could like who could jump pretty
high some other athletic guys would be would be nice for them who want this trade so this guy sebs
oh nine oh nine nine wants to see the pacer's get r j barrett and davion mitchell for obitopin
aaron neesmith jarris walker and andrew nimhart okay never mind this trade is ridiculous
no no no no no no no i'm hard is where you cross the fucking line yeah nobody well let's zoom out
obviously the compensation is dumb but would you want to see r j barrett on the pacer's no
never mind sorry sebs i tried i threw you the line they say get out of you yeah i'm sorry i understand
the need of or wanting to upgrade the three spot but i don't think i think rj bear is the most
like lateral move that you could make yeah i think uh nismith is probably just a better fit
by himself same okay how about this one from roxies and 60946 dwight powell two second round picks
for Duop Reith from the Portland Trailblazers.
I kind of like that.
The Mavericks could use another big
with Derek lively hurt.
Duop Reith is really good.
He's just like hidden on the bench
behind DeAndre Aitin,
Klingin, Robert Williams.
Dwight Powell is
Dallas Mavericks legend.
Salute.
He can go.
Yeah.
100%.
I think that Dwight Powell,
Dwight Powell is the kind of player
that Dallas will eventually get rid of,
but in about five to six years,
he's going to come back.
He's going to be,
on their TV coverage, right?
He's going to call Mavericks games, right?
He's going to be on the post game,
the pregame live for Dallas.
They've been looking to upgrade that spot for years
between him and Cleveland.
So if you can actually get somebody
that I can come in and make an impact right now,
I would 100% do that.
I don't hate that trade.
Yeah, I think they actively need another big, I think.
Especially with lively injured now.
Again, we'll see where they're at
in a few weeks when the deadline
is here because like depending on when luca comes back this season could really
spire real quick but if they want to make a deep run i would feel better to have a little more
depth there yeah but right now as they speak the dallas mavericks are the ninth seed and they're
just they're just a game a half game up on the sacramento kings scary stuff scary get us scary
that's tough man i imagine they balls the plan man yeah i hope he goes back soon here's an
interesting one i haven't thought about the bulls acquired kelden johnson
2025 first round pick
2025 second round pick
26 second round pick
so two seconds in first plus Kelvin
for Kobe White
done
Kobe White to the Bulls
I mean to the Spurs
does that move you
that feels better
because of Kobe White's youth
and is all around this
I don't know if it
I don't know if it'll move me enough
is there a first round pick involved
yeah the Bulls pick from this year
I'm not doing it
Can't do it sorry they want to pick probably. Yeah, they're doing all they can to go and get this pick back. I'm just not doing it
If if if only reason you do is have zero confidence and like Stefan Castle and do a cell like zero
Yeah, I think a lot of these some of the trades that we've read today are a little bit one-sided where
If I'm Chicago, I'm doing this trade if I'm saying to tell you I'm never offering this trade
Well, you don't like Kobe White going to the Spurs in general?
It's a good player.
He fits.
It's fine.
But, I mean, I would.
And maybe I'm just so, yeah, maybe I'm just so like Deerrin Fox, you know, like tunnel vision right now, especially with the news of the day where I'm like, if you are not going out to get a star, then don't do it.
But like, I would like to see San Antonio make a little bit of a bigger.
upgrade if you're going to go out and you know start trading future first round picks and stuff
like that. Okay. How about the magic? Get CJ McCollum and they send out Cole Anthony, Gary Harris,
Jet Howard, and Caleb Houston. So no picks involved, just depth in Jet Howard, who's a young
player, that might be something. Yeah. Jet Howard, letting go a Jet Howard kind of sucks a little bit
because he has actual potential. But I think I would do this because Seed McCollum's game is going to be what
it is over the next two and a half, three years or so, and he alleviates so much pain from
Jalen Suggs and Powell McCarrow's shoulders. I would do that at Arby. I kind of like that
fit. Again, the magic don't play people that can't play defense. It's like their ethos. If you're
not a great defender, you're not touching our goddamn court. But they have 10 other guys
that play great defense and their offense is disgusting. CJ would fit really well playing
off those wings. You can give a little bit of rope on the defensive side, bring in at least
one guy who's going to be an average defender that can really light up your team as a shooter.
I, this might be the one team I really like C.
C.J. McCollins fit on.
Let's, let's do it. Let's do it.
It's not a huge investment.
Yeah. And the fact that like you've already seen injuries from one of,
of you two guys, it gives you a little bit more leeway if any one of them gets hurt again
to where, you know, if, like, if CJ has to, CJ is able to go up and give you,
you know, 20, 22 points a game and it's going to be fine.
So I'm, I'm with that.
Yeah, and you could like, then you got a KCP come off the bench.
which is nice,
luxury to have.
If you want to start CJ
for spacing reasons?
Yeah.
That's a nice little rotation.
Good trade.
Good trade.
Shout out Iris.
Let's someone said Lakers
for any damn center.
Let's move over to chat.
Chat, you guys spam your trade
request, your trade ideas.
I keep saying requests.
You guys spam your trade ideas,
but we'll do someone along
for chat before we get back to Twitter.
In the meantime, shout out to James
for $10.
He said, if every team lost their best
player, who would be the best team in the league?
Probably the Celtics.
or the Cavs
the Cavs would be fine
with Adi Mitch
Yeah
I think it would be the
Cavs
who would see the biggest
fall off
probably the Denver Nuggets
The Denver Nuggets
Oh my Nuggets
Yeah the Nuggets
Yeah
So I'm gonna say
Kevin Rand to the Rockas
Yeah
We've been there for a long time
That'd be great
But I don't see
The Sun's blowing it up
Nix get
Oche Agbaji
For Sims and Kolic
From Kelvin B
From Calvin Ball in the chat
I think
I kind of like that
If Mitchell Robinson is back
And they don't need Jericho Sims
As much they need him now
And you give a rookie
O'Shea Boggi's good
They could use another wing
I'm not gonna lie
It's play the rookie
Play hookporty
I love Hookporty so much
I would like to see him get in it
So like yeah it would make sense
To get rid of Jericho
In that in that case
Plus that means that you wouldn't eventually
Because like you still have a couple years
I think
instead of like two years of deuce mcbride on his contract so you have enough guard play
between deuce between deuce campaign this year jaylin right yeah josh hard can do whatever
you know boy handy playmaking whatever so it's fine hmm in the chat said ingram to clippers
and i don't know about ingram specifically clippers but we didn't talk enough about brandon ingram
it was reported today at the pills are trying to make a big big trade it's been reported a thousand times
they want to get rid of Ingram.
So I can see that being it.
Where do you want to see him go?
Ingram to Raps, I'm seeing in the chat.
Raptors and Ingram is interesting.
Him to the Raptors would be fine.
I don't know if that's like the answer,
but it's a better answer than what they have right now
in R.J. Barrett.
I think for Ingram, I love to see him on the team
like the Indiana Pacers.
That kind of changes the infrastructure of their team
and their identity a lot.
Fuck it. Hell.
Ingram to the Miami Heat.
That'll be solid.
That'll help maintain whatever identity they have.
Ingram for the Hornets.
I'm singing in the chat.
The Hornets need divine intervention at this rate.
They are just flailing.
They're never going to be good again.
I'm done believing in them.
They've pissed off some Egyptian god or something a millennium ago.
They're done.
What about Ingram to the Detroit Pistons?
Donovan.
You're over here trying to trade everybody to the business the other day?
I am.
And I was.
And I stand by it.
And I would do it again.
Yeah, I'd trade Ingram to the pistons.
I'd do it.
Well, actually, they need talent.
And so, like, if you ultimately decided and landed, like,
Brandon Ingram right now between, like, age and scoring ability is what we need.
Cool.
But, I mean, I think I would want somebody, maybe a little bit more of, like,
an explosive score.
That's why, like, I'm using.
If it was between, like, Zach Levine and Brennan Ingraham,
I would go to Zach Levine, but, you know, just like asking about the question, yes, I would do it.
Okay.
Another one from Twitter is an interesting one.
Do you guys want to see that Thunaga, Cam Johnson?
How are we standing on that?
We haven't talked about Cam Johnson in a while.
This guy said Kirk Heinrich, Usman Dang, Nicola Topich, and then a 2025 Philly first-round pick, which that's...
Did I hear Kirk Heinrich?
Kendrick Williams.
Did I say Kirk Heinrich?
Yeah.
Come on fucking back in the league.
There we go.
Got me, Kirk.
who
Kenridge Williams
Kenridge Williams
Usumand Dang
and Nicola Topic
one first round pick
and one second round pick
for Cameron Johnson
Why not?
It's kind of high
That's ultimately yeah
It would be a why not
This one says
The Philadelphia pick
Which is way too rich
This must be a
fan of the Nets
Who wants that pick
That's not happening
But I don't mind
Topic
filler and one first-on-pick for Cam Johnson. That's interesting.
Yeah. In my mind, okay, see, they need to be like not panicking, but they need to start
actually being active in the, okay, it's starting to like recycle picks and players and like
for guys who we think, man, I'll work out. Let's go ahead and get rid of them now. It's kind
of damage that you have to get rid of Nicola Topich, of course, and give away a couple of picks,
but I mean, it is what it is at the end of day. Nicola Topich might not be the reason why
you guys eventually. He's probably not going to be the reason why you guys don't win the
fucking championship at the end of the day
whenever that time comes.
I would do that.
It's time to consolidate.
Someone, Jay Money in the chat said
Ingram to the Bucks.
I don't know how that could happen
because
could you make that work in Middleton?
Probably could. I would like, I kind of like that.
Middleton, Ingram to the Bucks. I wouldn't be bad.
Okay.
That wouldn't be bad. He has
similar, he has a very similar in between
game. He's a similar archetype to
Chris Milton except he's just a worst three-point shooter.
I like that a lot actually
I actually like that
his passing is worse but yeah
that's the that's the thing that
that worries me is is his passing
he's a good passer what do you mean
compared to
to military I think like the
it's a little worse
the inherent the inherent like connectivity
that that Middleton has
with with Yannison
with that system and everything
but yeah they
if you can add an upgrade and
honestly add somebody who is more
dependable
at this stage in their career, that would mean a lot more to me than Chris Middleton
and, you know, still being in the process of, like, bringing him along and ramping him up
to, like, playoff minutes and doing all that stuff, I would take Brendan ingone.
Okay, what about Brandon Ingram for Andrew Wiggins, sending him to Golden State with that
movie?
Yes, let's fucking do it.
Someone who can dribble.
Someone who can give me a hez-twee, just pull up, bro.
Yes, let's do that.
Yes.
If your name is not Steph Curry or Jemong Green, you can be traded from
the Golden State Warriors.
In fact, you should be traded for the Golden State Warriors.
Not T.J.D.
Gone.
Someone said Grayson Allen to the Pistons.
That would be cool if it was last year's Grayson Allen.
Grayson Allen added like 30 pounds of muscle
and now he's slow as hell and can't defend anybody.
He's so, so bad now with this much muscle on him.
It's crazy how much of a speed dip off he took.
Can't be a big body shooter.
It's hard to be a big body shooter.
It is.
I think he came out the other day and just talked about how much that was a
goddamn lie. He didn't get him like legitimately 30 pounds.
I made the number of. I made the number of.
No, it was put out. You didn't make that. It was actually put out there.
Whatever the number is. That man is swole now. And they clearly did that because they want
to defend wings. But now with the way, what this team needs, he's defending guards again
while being huge and he's slow and it doesn't work. Tough times. He needs a career pass
switch. He needs to be an IFBBBB or some shit, bro.
What is IFBBBB?
Like professional bodybuilder.
Oh.
What about Vucevich for the Warriors?
That's one that's been floated around a lot with lots of variations in the chat.
I don't know.
Any trade to the Warriors, we are signing off.
I don't want to see if at the end of the year, everybody who is on the roster right now is on the roster at the end of the season.
It is a failure of trade season.
Somebody has to get moved.
The other day I found out on the last podcast episode that we are allowed to trade.
coaches and shit yeah okay again me you we are the committee at td3 what if we were approached
with an opportunity to trade donovan away from this podcast to the golden state warriors for three
player interviews are we doing that i'm starting to feel like my three player interviews
trade don't away for somewhere for three player interviews we get curry we could get curry and
kerry's one of them yes listen man sometimes if it's if it's great listen i don't
Sometimes when you run an organization, you've got to make tough decisions with lifelong members of a fandom.
People that will one day, people that will one day be in the rafters, you had to say goodbye for the greater good of the franchise in their future.
I'm afraid we're going to have to ship you off to the bed.
I'll send you some apartments right now.
Maybe they'll buy you out.
Maybe they'll buy you out.
Maybe they'll buy you out.
Yes.
They're going to buy you out.
contract you can go sign with somebody else
you go sign up to pick a side podcast or something
we'll get you right
which will help you rebound to a new situation
we're going to rebuild
through the draft
through his Steph Curry interview
yes exactly
give me a podcast and draft
Mo better hope I don't get a broad interview
sent to my mailbox otherwise I've been shipping both of you have
oh shit
hey I'm happening
So I got you guys to trade Don for Moses Moody.
Trade Donovan for 10 minutes of LeBron.
Ten minutes of LeBron.
So I got Don to numbers on the board.
Well, now we got Donovan trade packages.
No, that's crazy.
Sorry, Donovan.
Yeah, we're doing a lot.
What am I done?
They said trade Don the kitty and most purple crayon for a step interview.
I'm in a package.
So now it's not just me.
alone.
Coming to Phoenix for Beal, good Lord.
I wish for all my heart that I'd have to see Warriors fans' reaction to getting Bradley
Beale.
That'd be so funny.
That is absolutely disgusting.
People are saying a bunch of Lakers trades, Walker Kessler, Yakopodal, I think we're
getting nothing.
I think we're going to learn to live with the mid-season edition being Jared Vanderbilt.
That's what we're going to be sold.
Shams had to come out
and say that the Lakers
were not on the list
for Deera Fox.
That was hilarious.
Yeah.
I'll blame you to the Lakers.
That's hilarious.
All right, man, well,
that's all the trades we're here to react to today.
We've hit our quota.
I think that's it, y'all.
Yeah.
Listen, we'll see you guys.
We'll see you guys next week.
Hopefully I haven't been traded.
Yeah.
In this last week,
Donna's going to be here.
We're not going to trade them.
We missed last week's live because we had to do something for HOH.
We had to do another shoot.
People were commenting because, dude, so last week's episode, we were one day late and then we missed it live.
We got several comments that's like, so what is y'all's upload schedule now?
It's so different.
I'm like, bro, it changed for two days.
Like, relax.
We're going to be here again every Tuesday.
Nothing changed.
Hey, man.
We'll see you on a week.
We're good.
We're good.
Calm down, you all.
We're not going anywhere.