The Deep 3 Podcast - Reacting To Your Best NBA Trade Deadline Ideas | TD3 Live

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yo, it's been a real slow. Last couple weeks of news, the trade deadline is quickly approaching, but it felt like this might be the slower trade deadline in a long time with the new CBA stuff, with the second raping around. It seemed like teams were scared. And then today, the day of our stream, the NBA world goddamn exploded. We have so much to talk about. I love this.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I feel like, again, we say it all the time. I feel like the last, like, what, three, four times that we've, decide that we've like either started streaming or started recording an episode stuff goes down and two listen thank you basketball gods we do appreciate it it makes our life easier makes these streams better keep doing your job please we're for a yapathon today yep yep as you guys see we're going to talk about your guys's trade requests i mean trade ideas on this episode you see by the title we're going to react to a trade request from twitter to trade ideas from youtube community posts from the chat we're going to do all that later
Starting point is 00:01:00 the stream. But first, we have so much news to talk about. And obviously, we have to start with the biggest storyline of the day, the one that came out of absolutely nowhere, well, sort of came out of nowhere in terms of it breaking today. Deeran Fox is essentially requested to trade. Per Shams Sharania, the Sacramento Kings are expected to open up talks to potentially deal all-star De Aaron Fox ahead of the February 6th trade deadline, sources tell the ESPN. There will be plenty of suitors, but it is believed that Fox is a target destination in mind ahead of his 2026 free agency. And where is that target destination?
Starting point is 00:01:33 Streets are saying, it's San Antonio. Deeran's trying to come down, chill with the Mexicans, get over to Texas, have no state income tax, play with the best Mexican food in the country, play with... The eat maturos, play with the best young star in the country. All I can say is, thank God. I've been waiting for this. We've been wanting to see Deer & Fox play. It wouldn't be so bad. I'm glad to see that he also wants the same thing.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I am so happy and I hope that San Antonio by the end of this dream trade for Deer and Fox I'm putting the clock I'm putting the timer on the San Antonio Spurs front office get it done there's no time like the present
Starting point is 00:02:15 why do why do tomorrow what can't be done today you see what I'm saying like it just makes it makes so much sense and I'm like we talked about this a while ago, like maybe about a month ago, where never like the Deere Fox trade rumor started to like bubble up for a second. And I was saying like if I was dispersed, not that like obviously
Starting point is 00:02:38 I'm not going to be reckless. I'm not going to trade the farm and trade absolutely everything and like decimate my all of my assets. But I am going to make a serious and legitimate push to go get D.R. Fox because as Wembe has ascended into top 10 player, top eight player, whatever, As he's gone there, you see that, like, the future is now. And so you want to give him time to have another star so that not only can you have a little bit of help, but the core that you're building has a very solid foundation and years to build on. Like, Darren Fox is still super young. He's not, he's not, like, he's been in the league for a while, but he is still, like, relatively young.
Starting point is 00:03:15 To have that and then Wembe, who's not even 21 years old, having that for the next four to five years to build upon, that is, that's like, you know, as. as good as you can ask for. Chat, where do you guys want to see Deering Foxgo? Obviously, the Spurs are top of mind for the current reports. But like Sean said, there's going to be a lot of suitors. A lot of people are going to try and, you know, throw their hat in the ring. If it's up to you, Chad, where would you want to see him go from a fan perspective?
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah. If I'm the Sacramento Kings, I take this as an insult. Okay, you want to get traded? Cool. Even though we did all we can, you know, got you to Marta Rosen. I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about the Sacramento Kings. Got you, DeMata Rosen, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:59 re-signed your man's. Malik Monk, re-signed your guy who helped elevate you in this team. Domana is a bonus. And you want to trade after we committed to you this much? You know what? Okay. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Guess what? I'm not sending you back home or wherever you're from in San Antonio. I'm not sending you where your family resides in San Antonio. I'm not sending you to where the next future goat over there resides in San Antonio. Antonio, take his ass out of the country. Send him to fucking Toronto, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Do him the worst way if I'm in. That's the best thing. That's the best thing. Anybody who ever, like, if a team has beef, you're all just like, get him out of here. Send him to Canada. What's funny is Toronto's an awesome city. Great place to live. But it's just so funny because it's another country.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah. It could be paradise. And it's like, you're getting deported, buddy. It doesn't matter. It's hilarious in principle. no it would be hilarious i don't expect the kings to behave spitefully because of the kings and they are a what verb is i want to use right here moronic uh lower third of the league ran organization
Starting point is 00:05:09 let's say unsurious unsurious apparently i saw a report i forgot the person's name i should have wrote it down one of the local king's reporters that seems to be someone who's rather credible in that market reported that after firing market Brown, this team has a desire to make a playoff push, and that's probably going to factor into their whatever trade package they accept. That's kind of hilarious, because that means they're probably going to want winning out players over young assets. So if it is a spurs trade, maybe they want Vassell over Castle, which I guess that's a debate.
Starting point is 00:05:40 You can feel how you feel about Castle. But that's probably going to impact things in how we see things go. And that's obviously fucking dumb, because if you're losing Deeran Fox and you're losing your 27-year-old All-Star and you're left with Demartor Rosen, Demontas, and Malik Monk, That's a team. It's one of the teams in the Western Conference. It's not one of the best teams, even if you get some win-now pieces. So it would be hilarious to see them try to pivot to be a worst version of what they are now,
Starting point is 00:06:05 which already isn't super promising. Don't be nice. If you trade Deer and Fox, that's one of the worst teams in the Western Conference. Like, I don't have a lot of faith in Sacramento if they trade Deeran, even if they got like some, I guess it depends on the wind-out guys. But overall, like having to Monis at that point be the best player on your team definitively, that is what? Yeah. It sets you up to be the 12 seat.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It doesn't put you in a great position. And then you are just trying to be the Western Conference Chicago Bulls at that point. Yeah. It's not only the wanting of being mid. and like we are chasing a playoff spot to be the eight or nine C, whatever, it's the idea that we're now making this our identity for the next two, three years
Starting point is 00:07:00 of we're going to be mid. We're going to chase eight or nine C, knowing that we don't have top end talent to make it to the top of the Western Conference. That's where you get bad. It's okay if you're mid for a couple of years, but you have to have an identity. You have to have a plan in Sacramento time after time
Starting point is 00:07:16 whether they're good, bad in the middle. they consistently showed that they don't know what they want to do for the next two to three years and I think that like the first year like when the light the beams have happened that was the first time in the long time that the Kings actually looked like we are moving in this direction
Starting point is 00:07:34 everybody is together and we're going one place now you fire the coach you're about to trade deering and you're back just wandering in the wilderness it's not great yeah people were spamming nuggets in the chat and I thought nuggets would be really cool early in the season when Jamal Murray is playing like shit. They can't trade Jamal Murray anyways right now.
Starting point is 00:07:52 But Jamal Murray is looking more like Jamal Murray, so they probably won't try to make anything happen in terms of replacing a long-term point guard. But it would be cool in theory to see Deerey next to Yokic, so I see why your head is there, probably not realistic. I'm also seeing rockets and I'm also saying magic. That I do find realistic.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I find those teams to be extremely realistic. I don't know if the Houston Rockets are super realistic right now. I mean, it might be. It's probably more, yeah, it might be because they have a whole new, eat those going on over there and they just have a whole lot of like new found like they're doing a whole lot of restructure in their organization there and they have so much success right now
Starting point is 00:08:26 so but I still feel like kind of if I'll pull the trigger so fast because you're still trying to realign like who are the guys like the top dog on this team and you have a new guy who didn't come out come up on a nowhere but he's like taking the fucking rings of this team and that's for the Orlando Magic it feels like he is legitimately of the
Starting point is 00:08:44 missing piece as good as the Orlando Magic have been known to be over the last 24 months. This year, they still have the worst offense in the entire NBA. I think they're 30th or 29th. That's insane. That's ridiculous to go ahead and talk about and think about this series content, this serious playoff team who we know can make certain strides
Starting point is 00:09:04 and has the potential best case scenarios to make the East of Carpins finals, but they just held back in so many ways. Yeah, the magic definitely need, they need a point guard. We've been saying this. I guess they need time to see how Franz and Paulo continue to develop. it wouldn't be shocking. Is DeRen Fox a right type of point guard for them? Like, I feel like I want more of a shooter.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Maybe you just, like, if you have three slasters that are that amazing, maybe that's just like enough oomph that it's okay. You surround them with two shooters and like really let them play a downhill demon-style basketball. But I kind of want more of like a shooting specials in that point guard position if I'm going to go all in and get somebody big. I agree. I think like Deeran is, obviously like adding Deerrin would be an upgrade at,
Starting point is 00:09:48 at playmaking and getting as much playmaking in the building means something for them. But, and so, like, you can, you can't see it work. And so it's like, okay, if the ball is in, if the ball is in Deeran's hands and it's in Franz's hands, I think overall it would make the team better, very curious to see how Palo, obviously, like, he's the franchise player there, but I'm very curious to see how he adjust to that situation because you would have another person who plays with the ball in his hands and we were talking on the episode last week about how hey it's it's good like the best version of palos whenever he's you know cutting off ball doing all that maybe getting the air
Starting point is 00:10:28 forces him into a situation like that but i think that for this year for this year kind of shakes some stuff up where i i'm with you i think i would like a little bit more shooting but honestly listen just get talent in the building like you're you're you're in Orlando and i'm not even trying to hate, you're not going to get those guys in free agency. You have to go out and make those kinds of moves right now. Dude, I just saw someone in chat say Fox for Conley, which obviously wouldn't be just that. I mentioned, the Kings want to have a win-nell mandate, apparently. They want to continue to try to find win-now players. What if, what if this dumbass franchise throws and Timberwolves a life raft for the Julius Randall contract?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Stop it. Julius Randall and DeVantz-Sabonis front court, along with Demard de Rosenro. This is like a basketball nerds' worst nightmare. This is absolutely hell basketball. It'd be so gross, but like, what if? Obviously, it'd be much bigger deal than that. They want assets in return.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It wouldn't be that simple. It would be many team deals. Yeah, whatever would be. It would be multi-team trades to get picks and whatever. But like, I could see a world in which they end up with Julius Randall. because they want to remain good and add wins to the stat sheet. That would just be so funny.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I'm not watching the Kings and say, I know it's our job to like stay. Why am? I'm not doing that. It's not. I will watch them through Twitter. I'm not sitting down and dedicating an hour and app
Starting point is 00:12:04 two hours of my life to watching Kings basketball if they have Julius Randall and DeMondon's. I would love it for it. I would love it for the Timberwolves to get Deeran Foxx to Anthony Davis. I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:15 Anthony Edwards. It would be awesome. And I would also love it for the Kings because I love having a stooge franchise to laugh at. Their fans get so upset because we're constantly calling them stooges and we're constantly saying their stars aren't as good as people that want to compare them to. And I would like them to remain in my life. I would like there to be mid for us to point to and be like at least our favorite teams aren't that. I know. Sometimes you need variety because it's good for the ecosystem. Yeah, obviously for me like the clippers are always just going to be that sometimes you get sometimes you get tired right you don't want to eat you don't want to eat chicken every day sometimes you want beef right sometimes you want fish you want you want you want several
Starting point is 00:12:52 options for dinner and several options the teams that you can laugh at so i get i get it i know what the kings are the kings are a goddamn big mac it's just just chum that you can just plow out through it's bad for you it's not good it's not good for anybody but sometimes you got to eat it that's hilarious right it's red dye 40 it's hot cheetos it's all that It's hard you down sometimes. Many of times, actually. Exactly. We'll see where this continues to develop.
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's looking like they're going to try to force themselves to the Spurs. We all know Rich Paul is good at forcing what they want. So if the Spurs are interested and they actually want to make this move at this time, I can see it happening. I also could see a world where the Spurs are like, we're going to remain patient, we appreciate the interest. We'll return to this conversation later on. But right now we're going to stand Pat and try to get one more draft pick.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I could imagine that world too Okay So if you were the San Antonio Spurs This question is for both of you guys What would you feel comfortable with giving up This is going back to like The Devin Vesel Stefan Castle conversation
Starting point is 00:13:54 And whoever else you want to go I'm fine getting rid of Vesel Vesel can definitely go Vesel and Picks is totally fine with me If they'd rather have Castle Than Vesel That's also fine with me One of those guards plus picks
Starting point is 00:14:06 It's fine Wow Castle's fine with you Yeah Castle's good Like he's a good player He's not like some bona fide star that you've got to hold on to. Like, I think we'll be a very good player for a long time, but I don't think we'll be some top five player
Starting point is 00:14:17 in as a position that we need to really covet no matter what. That's crazy. He's lighting everything just fast. Oh, my God. I don't even know What the fuck What moves
Starting point is 00:14:50 No Is this spell over Dude don't cry Someone said the rats Been in the gym The rats Bringing him into the mud The rats ain't is Kim
Starting point is 00:15:07 This motherfuck is on the ground bro. The street's got them. All right, you go ahead and mute your mic and you can figure that shit out. Hook everything back up. Oh, my God. That replay's gonna be crazy. Chat,
Starting point is 00:15:28 record that and set it to be on Twitter, please. You get out of here. Please. That's hilarious. Okay. Okay. Let me read some donations now because I forgot. You guys have been donating. I've been ignoring because we're talking about Deeran. My bad, y'all. Shout out to Jo. Shout to Joaquin 37 for tipping $1.37 for tipping another $6.37. Appreciate you. Shout to Kevin Galicki for coming through as always, donating $15. He said, Isaac, I took your advice. Didn't cancel. But all the activities are couple-based. So if any of you want a free trip in the week to February, come on. Remember he said he went on vacation But he got broken up with that before
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah Kevin hit me on the side I think those tickets off your head And shout out to Hawks Lover for Life For tipping $5 You appreciate all you The next news story Another juicy trade story
Starting point is 00:16:30 The Warriors are one of several teams Back in the mix for Jimmy Butler Now that the heat have lowered their asking price Y'all I used to pray for times like this all seasons we've talked about the warriors and the only thing we've been able to say is god this team sucks god please get them another star jimmy bowler's there make it happen it's what you owe step is the fit perfect no inject some talent on this bitch please and apparently they weren't trying to do that a lot of all the reports have been saying they're not interested the price is too high gross gross
Starting point is 00:17:00 gross we don't want that yuck fuck wins they kept getting worse and jimmy baller's now gotten cheaper because he's been crashing out in biblical fashion apparently they're in now donovan do you want to see this yeah i do easily i want to see this and i think this is this is honestly the way that i think front offices should start to move and this would be the one reason why if i were the spurs i would wait on d aaron fox because you can just wait and then tell the guy hey go start acting a fool in public and then the price would be lowered right this is the exact like the warriors probably this is like the the best outcome that they could have hoped for that the price on Jimmy Butler would be blowing it until now like I'm worried you you got the clip
Starting point is 00:17:45 well no Mo just texted us there's a AI generated like chat summary on YouTube now when you were watching on a stream and the chat summary says viewers are reacting in shock and disbelief to the news of Mo's death speculating on how it happened and expressing their condolences this AI's fucking ridiculous it's saying Moe died on the stream That's ridiculous That's ridiculous So it was an alternate title Mo gets traded to the Wizards Live
Starting point is 00:18:19 So what were you saying? I can't believe that Let's just take a moment I really can't believe that that just happened Mo's giving us Some of the best moments in T3 history From his camera crashing out here To the rat running across his screen
Starting point is 00:18:38 in real time, it's been a ride. And we really do have, we really do have to thank the rats for like their dedication to the content. I really do appreciate them. I think, okay, what's up? No, no, I was just, I was just saluting the world. Wow. Now, listen, shout out to the Warriors.
Starting point is 00:19:02 They, they're annoying. They're just annoying to watch because they go out and they play bad basketball for 48 minutes. And then Steph Curry looks sad, and we're like, yeah, go, go trade for somebody. And they're like, no, we like what we have. It's like, you guys keep losing. Please, trade for somebody. Don't want to. Like, no.
Starting point is 00:19:22 You're like, just because you told us, no, we're not. Actually, I won't. Oh, God. Don't leave you. Can you do something? Can you trade? You can do what you did before. You can trade four second rounders again and get like GP2 or something.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Can you do something? And they just refuse to do anything. So, yeah, I hope they go out and get Jimmy Butler. I think it would be a very nice switch up to what they have. It would help Steph Curry because obviously he is not prime Steph Curry. He's not even in 2022, Steph Curry. Like, you can't ask him to go out and play for 36 minutes a night, average in the high 20s on super efficiency and carry this team.
Starting point is 00:20:02 This team sucks. And Steph is not at that level. So it's just not built for them to be a play in, like, six, successful playing team second round team anymore yeah which is wow because that's the bar that we're asking for you be a competitive playing second round team when i ain't talk not talking about championships man so obviously i want to see the warriors get jimmy that'd be the best case scenario just to give step a lifeline to have some sort of relevancy and not go out sad like dirk and cobi did with a terrible team around him but no that tweet said there are among other teams that are now
Starting point is 00:20:35 going to be interested in Jimmy Butler with the price being cheaper. Who else can't that be? Because we also got a report today from Legion Hoops per at Michael Grange, a reporter. The Raptors are looking for a significant piece to pair with Scotty Barnes. Could you imagine a world in which they try to get Jimmy? Which is probably R.J. Barrett's salary plus one more young player, O'Shea Baguji, maybe, and then a pick or two if it's going to be cheaper. Like, nah, no, I don't see.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I can, okay, I can see where they would get to to be like, yes, let's make the move. I would not do it. I would not do it. I think that your timeline is still very off. And considering that you are still at the bottom of the league and you have an opportunity to be, to have a really, really good draft pick, I would not change anything for this season. Any move that they make, yeah, any move that they make to go help Scotty Barnes should be done in the off season. But right now, we are tanking.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That is what we are doing. And we should stick to that for the rest of the year. Someone said, when is Moe coming back? My guy, do I look like I know? Do I look like I know? The man's camera just fell down. Like, what do you think? Oh, shit, he's back.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Oh. They try to hold a real one down. I died. They try to say I fell off. We both get back with these goddamn takes. What the hell it ain't talking about? They said FL off. What are they talking about?
Starting point is 00:22:09 He's talking about nothing. Chad said he's back. Y'all, it's spam. He defeated the rats, y'all. Give him some love. He looks out of breath. You look like you've actually been fighting. He's all slumped in his chair.
Starting point is 00:22:25 He's tired. You've got to recover. It took me some time. Why the hell do I open up my phone, open up the YouTube chat specifically? Do you see what's happening? and this new YouTube AI feature, I think you talked about it.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I said that I fucking died. Like, everyone just got like, better question. Better question. Why did I open my phone just now and I see a push notification from the BR app that says the Lakers are starting
Starting point is 00:22:49 Rui Hachimori again after missing two games? We just saw them dominate with Doring Finney Smith starting. Why the fuck are they starting this dude? Oh, wow. You know what time of this. Your guy.
Starting point is 00:22:59 That's your guy. You know what time is. It is audition season. You go out there, you put on your best performance. Everybody, everybody wants to see what you can do, Rory. Their net rating with DFS starting is so ridiculous right now. That lineup is so clearly better, having Christie and DFS as two actual three and D guys next to their three main players. What the fuck is JJ Red at cooking right now?
Starting point is 00:23:20 This is crazy. Nothing. It's not JJ. He got that call from Politica. He said, start him? Yes. Polyka's like, please, I need help. Nobody would trade for him.
Starting point is 00:23:32 He needs to put together. three straight games so yeah this probably what's going on yeah the broadcasting is value you can't bench him now yeah also i mean saying that he suspended jimmy butler until further notice so he's just out of there until he straighted which is quite funny oh man yeah man if i'm jimmy that weak-ass knees if i was jimmy i'm hopping on that first plane from miami to whatever island is near whichever one of my choice and i'm hanging out until i get the call for my agent that been traded. I'm going away. I don't have time to get you. How would you feel if me and Isaac had a meeting one day, talked to amongst ourselves, came up into the podcast. I was like,
Starting point is 00:24:16 yeah, Donald, you can sit one, sit this one out. We got your dad filling in for you today. Let's go back from where we'll get you like when it comes to TikTok time. I'll be fine. I'd be fine. He loved that. All right, man, next story. The Warriors are retiring on Andre Agada's number. His jersey, I mean. Good for that. Clubbing up for Andre Goddawa.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah. One of the five members from what's it, what's it? Yo, man, shut out drink chips, right? Awesome. Clubing up for drink champ. That's crazy. Shout to the Hampton 5 is that you're referring to. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah. OGs and the death line at the Hampton 5. It makes sense. They're going to retire a jersey. He's pivotal there. Not only is he part of the dynasty, he's what jump started it, them signing him, made them competitive in like 2013. He was like their version of like bringing the veteran and teach him how to win.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Like they did with Fred Van Vleet in Houston or whatever else. And it worked. He taught the motherfuckers how to win to win to the highest degree. Yeah. He taught him how to save money. taught him how to navigate. In the NBA, he's just like he's one of the ultimate OGs. Saved us from the Martians' point, the death beam at Earth?
Starting point is 00:25:33 That's a legacy. That's a legacy. Bro, how crazy. The NBA would not be the same without Andreu Doudal's presence whatsoever. He's so important, so pivotal in so many aspects. Yeah. Also, I think as like the NBA goes on longer and longer, I think we need to retire the idea of getting your jersey retired. I think that there's only so many.
Starting point is 00:25:58 like there's only so many there's only so many cool numbers that people have held like nine is it's a it's a very solid number what do you mean nobody can wear the number nine for the next like 50 years all which you should have you should have it like in football just have like the ring of honor or whatever your name can go up there but somebody has to wear number nine we can't be having people out here wearing 71 29 it's just weird stuff I think they should be doing it but they got a de-retired numbers after a while yeah bring them back into simulation after 35 years. What are the qualifications for a number to be, like, de-retire?
Starting point is 00:26:34 You got to have another ceremony. Here's the thing. If your number gets de-retired, you get a statue. Okay. It has to be one or the other. I have too many ugly-ass statues around there. It's the ultimate disrespect. To tell somebody, yes, you will be immortalized.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Nobody will ever wear your number. You are that significant. And then 30 years goes by and it's like, Actually, we're going to need that back in rotation. I need that back. You see, the way errors worked out, the way the pace the game changes, your numbers are kind of mid now, and the kids think you're whack. So we're going to pull that jersey back down because Luca Donchis needs that number.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Exactly. So it's like, yeah, it's either number of times. You should be able to pick. They're saying you're a plumber. I'm sorry. They're saying you're a plumber. We can't have plumbers in the rafters. You've got to take it down.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Sorry, Bob. okay next story which is also related but it's another report similarly per vince goodwill i've heard that philly quietly could be a student for jimmy butler theoretically would be jimmy for paul george swap i believe that imbid is pushing for them to reacquire jimmy that would make sense jill jill jimmy baller and joan bid were guys they were dudes i think that's probably one of jill and b's favorite teammates two of his three favorite teammates of all time or one of his favorite team was of all time point easily and I think what the fuck has paul george done or given i like how you i like how you pump fake the point blake period what is he done for the six
Starting point is 00:28:08 no no if the sixes can get this done if darrow morning can get this done instantly i don't care what happens for the rest of the year i don't care what the record is he gets executive of the year if you can immediately get off of this pa george contract you got it right because I don't I don't know I don't know where fully goes from here and like obviously you're not going to win the championship this year your future is looking very very rocky with embit's health Paul George's health all that stuff the one thing that you had going for yourself is that Tyrese maxi was always happy and Jeremy McCain looked like a pocketful of sunshine if you get some more vibes in the building that is a start and then also having a decent
Starting point is 00:28:53 player in that spot could work could you imagine my first why the fuck when miami want philly's uh paula george's contract that would be hilarious like they don't want bills contract you know what paul george that would be well so either way either either either either way right i think yeah i okay i guess i i don't know however they don't want to suck. They don't, they don't want to, they don't want to, so I can see them taking Bradley Beale or Paul George's contract. I just think that they probably would take Paul George. Honestly, with how, without a bad deal either way. With how diminished Jimmy Bowler's trade value is, I, I can see a world in where they take, fuck, it will take Paul George just to fucking
Starting point is 00:29:48 spite someone like Jimmy Buller for whatever reason. If we remember, if I remember, if I remember correctly last or a couple years ago when the Minnesota or the Timberwolves went ahead and traded away Jimmy Butler they got like barely nothing for him I think they got like Jared Bayless and like two second round picks and I don't know like some of the random like big power forward or whatever is they got basically got him for like free 99 and so with that being said Paul George hey that shit isn't played because he's basically free 99 he is I don't like the Robert Covington erasure I love Robert going to, man. Speaking of players, I love. Speaking of defensive specialists, we got to talk about
Starting point is 00:30:27 last night, Amen Thompson, gaming the Boston Celtics, finishing it. He hit this mid-range fadeaway for the game winner. After the game was over, he went to the reporters and did his little post-game press conference. He said, I've never hit a game winner before. I feel like Kobe. And it was dope. There's already a Jordi edit out there of that. It's lovely. And listen, this has been long been. This guy was usually pushing Jordy's page. This has long been a pro-a-man-Thompson show. If you've known this, ever since he's drafted, he has been my guy. We are full-on Thompson-Pill, Thompson twin-pilled, especially in men.
Starting point is 00:31:04 We've been said he's going to be the best player on this team. It's a matter of when, not if. Now it's here. I have this tweet pulled up. I want to get your opinion on. This guy, Wilder Adams, says, players under 25, I would clearly take over-a-man-Thompson long-term. Virthi Women Yama
Starting point is 00:31:19 Anthony Edwards Palo Bancaro that is it he's in the convos with Chet and Cade etc how do you guys feel about this I'm gonna crazy
Starting point is 00:31:29 wow that's it's crazy to think that you're with that I love that I love how a lot of people been giving him so much attention as far as in realizing
Starting point is 00:31:38 the disgusting run that he's been on as he's been starting but you're gonna sit here and tell me that yeah you'd rather have someone like a man
Starting point is 00:31:48 than K. Cunningham? I don't know. The line for me is Chet. Chet's the line. Chet's the one that I would go back and forth on. I would rather have moving forward. I would rather have a man Thompson than than Kate Cunningham, I think.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Okay. What the fuck are we talking about right now? I'd rather have. I'd rather have is crazy. But if you want to tell me, it's in the conversation. Yeah, it's a discussion. Yeah, it's a discussion. I think that, like, ultimately, from what I'm seeing of a man
Starting point is 00:32:16 this young in his career, I think that if I had to make a decision right now, I would probably take a man. Yeah, it's not crazy. Honestly, he's so young. He's in year two. This is the first time he got an opportunity to start and get real minutes. He shines and he's playing at a damn near star level.
Starting point is 00:32:34 A lot of young players, you're like, give him time, give the situation, yada, yada. This is not a good situation for him. He did not take much time. The second he got a single opportunity, he thrived, that's the sign of a real star player. do you see good spacing around him for him to attack and be this lead ball handler slashing? Not really. Do you see a ton of ball handling grips for him to do this thing and shine with the ball on his hands? Not really.
Starting point is 00:32:57 He's just getting it out of the mud and thriving in a less than ideal situation. Imagine if it was ideal. Imagine if they recalibrated and they play through him. It's his team. There's a huge chilling here that we hadn't even touched yet. So if you're going to go on the hill that he's going to be better than Cade long term, I don't know if I'm willing to go there, but I do not think it's crazy. I think the better conversation is like someone like Scottie Barnes.
Starting point is 00:33:19 That's like more comparable. And that's like, okay, like you can you can sway me that way. I don't find that common would be that different. I don't think Scottie's that far behind Cade. I'm let you know something right now, player. I'm taking a men Thompson over Scotty. Me too. The ceiling, the ceiling for a man is super high because if he figures out,
Starting point is 00:33:39 I don't, I don't think a man is ever going to be like a high volume, very high efficient three-point shooter in that way. Like, I just, I doubt it's not going to happen. But if, but if you can get to obviously a respectable level, that's cool. The fact that he can be this impactful without being a shooter, that is amazing. Because even if he's not the best player on your team, he can be the second best player on your team if he's not like the 1A scoring guy, whatever. But you can put him in so many situations.
Starting point is 00:34:14 that it works and he can be a, you know, this wild downhill demon who plays insane defense. Like, Amman Thompson, yo, Amin Thompson is one of like the best perimeter defenders in the league. And his athleticism, his athleticism and his defense and his playmaking, his overall feel for the game is crazy. So that having him right now in year two and thinking if you can get to be, what, 30, 3, 34% from 3. Like, if you could shoot slightly better than Russell Westbrook
Starting point is 00:34:48 for your career, please, you are welcomed on my team any day of the week. Dude, he's, I don't know, he's so hard to project because he's one of the
Starting point is 00:34:58 most unique players he's seen in a long time. Like you said, he doesn't need a good shot to be a good player. And that's so rare because of the modern NBA, like, especially from a perimeter guy
Starting point is 00:35:08 playing like the one through three, if you don't have a single modicum of a three-point shot, it's almost a non-star. of you being a star player, right? Like, the only one of you saying do it in recent years is Ben Simmons, who is deeply flawed, even at his best, and was deeply controversial,
Starting point is 00:35:21 even at his best. He has a little bit more of a shot than Ben Simmons, but even if we're saying it's equivalent under both currently non-shooters entirely, a men's already developed a little bit of a mid-range shot, which he didn't have last year. He's already developed, he's much better than one's last season.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Defensively, his motor is crazier, his instincts are better, the playmaking is coming around. He continuously proves that he is going to be in the lab every summer trying to get better. the work ethic is going to be second to none forever. That's not something people really associate with Ben Simmons. So I feel very good on betting on a guy who's already proven to be able to be so athletic
Starting point is 00:35:55 that he breaks the mold of needing to shoot. I feel comfortable that he'll be able to shoot a little bit eventually. What's only interesting to me when we talk about the Ben Simmons comparison a little bit is like he hasn't even been given like the full key to the offense just yet. He's not like over here pounding the air out of the ball. Coming out of the NBA draft, coming out of OTE, like everyone, he was a point guard. Everyone knows that. That's a long, that's so differentiates himself compared to his brother.
Starting point is 00:36:23 He has the ball handling chops, the vision and all then. We still see that until this day, but he's not allowed to, like, go ahead and play fully that way because of Fred Vainbleeds of the world exists, Jalen Green, and also, like, Alfred Singoon. He's, like, third or fourth in terms of pecking order in terms of, like, how they choose to distribute the ball. and I think I need to see more of that which I feel confident he'll be able to go ahead and prove he's worthy of that type of position and role but once that happen
Starting point is 00:36:52 then the stock's going to the fucking mood. Yeah, like he's compared to Ben Simmons a lot and that the only way he's similar to Ben Simmons is that he's a guard that's good at defense and can't shoot. Otherwise, they're very different players like he moves in a way that reminds me of like John Morant,
Starting point is 00:37:08 the way that he can move so side to side and blow by people even when they help off him a lot because he's so fast, jumps so high, has such crazy lateral quickness to attack and, like, get around defenders. He's slithery as shit and moves in such a dynamic way attack in the rim that Ben Simmons has never
Starting point is 00:37:24 had that. So, like, to me, it's like John Moran. It makes it Andre Goddala. Something else about, like, athleticism that I'll even, like, chip in there as well, is that his second jump is ridiculous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah. John Moran with Zion's second jump. Exactly. That's all, that's, exactly what I was just about to say. Like, his second jump is unforeseen, bro. Yeah. I just, the, the fact that he is actively developing a jumper and, like, isn't scared. Like, people were, like, screaming at Ben Simmons to take threes in preseason games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And a man is just not scared to do that in a regular season game. It's fine. And like Isaac said, like, the work ethic is obviously something that's been, like, lauded and it's not going to be an issue for them. So, yeah, I think that the stock on the men is super, super high. So I would have, yeah, if we're doing 25 and under drafts, at the absolute worst, I think, six is right there. And that's if you think that Cade and Chet are like definitively better just because
Starting point is 00:38:29 they're better right now and you can, you know, keep moving, moving forward. But in terms of the stock, you, a man has to do. You take a j-double rim? No. Jay does better right now, but I think Amend is a higher ceiling for sure. Yeah. He's what having right now. Yeah, I think, I think Amin Thompson would be the best stock to buy right now.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Good thing I bought it a year ago. I'm fucking filthy rich right now. My net worth is ridiculous. Yeah, Bitcoin and 08 for sure. Yep. He's got it. Yeah, listen, but towards the end of the regular season, we're going to do our annual, well, I can't talk. Amruel.
Starting point is 00:39:09 We're going to do our annual... Annual. It's about the grace to stop it. We're going to do our annual top 25 players under 25 years old. It's going to be very interesting to see where we rank of Matt Thompson. You're whopping out because I wasn't even going to go there. He wants to go there. I know he just threw it into the E-Pace.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Because I'm here. are you guys you guys get there our next new story did you guys see the demar de rosen situation and how all of betting Twitter was undergoing mass psychosis together just being brain dead together with their one brain cell
Starting point is 00:39:53 what happened fill me in he's telling me about it i just saw the tweets so we got this tweet from at jay not henny he says so after the demar de rosen situation we can finally admit 100% the NBA is a fixed league along with the nfl there's no more debate around it.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It's been known for a while, but we can now put that combo to rest after tonight. 25,000 likes, 25,000 degenerates who were like, yeah, I think it's actually rigged against me. I think I'm, I have to lose. Because what happened was, prize picks promoted a discounted line for DeMarters and Rebounds at 3.5.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I guess normally it's 5.5 or something of the sort. It was lower tonight. So naturally a bunch of people jumped on it. They promoted it heavy as part of their parlays, obviously. I think the number was there was like fucking 200,000 people who did it. I think that's public. And DeMarre got four rebounds.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Then the price picks app rewarded people. They paid it out. They congratulated people for hitting on this discounted line. Then the game ended. And there was a stat correction because one of the rebounds he had, Alex Lynn tipped it out to him and DeMarter Rosen caught it. If you know NBA rules, that means it Alex Lynn's rebound because the Tyson Chandler ruled. So, stack correction happens all the time, right?
Starting point is 00:41:04 They went out and they fixed it. They said, nope, actually, it's under rebound. for Demard de Rosen. And because the nature in which it was promoted as this thing that they want you to bet on and then you win
Starting point is 00:41:15 and they say, oh, actually no, all these dumbasses convince themselves that it's rigged that the NBA took time out of their busy schedule
Starting point is 00:41:23 to go to prize picks the fifth biggest sports book in North America and rig a Demar de Rosen rebounds line. And not only did they rig it,
Starting point is 00:41:33 they fucked up or something and then they had to go back and change it. Do you understand how fucking dumb this is and how insane these people are. Listen, listen,
Starting point is 00:41:40 Isaac, you don't understand this. This is some of people's rent money, bro. This is how some people we're going to eat. Okay, if I was as down bad as them, again,
Starting point is 00:41:49 I'm not a better. I never bet a single day in my life. But if I was in their shoes, I'll be thinking the same exact thing. They're out to get me. That's what they all feels. Everybody wants to take my money. They're out to get me.
Starting point is 00:42:02 They want me to lose. I can't just suck at this. Surely there's a bigger plot at play. And they're all How many, how many likes of that we have? 25,000. If 25,000 people feel that way, 25,000 people are idiots.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Because if you are acknowledging that it's rigged, there's one of two things that you can do. You can either say, okay, this whole thing is rigged. Let me bet on the side that I know that they're going to rig it for or you cannot bet on a rigged product. You can just not do that all in all, right?
Starting point is 00:42:36 But you continue to do it. Why? Because you haven't called that hotline. Call the number. 1-800 gambler. Go get some help. If you know that it's, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:47 Like, if you know that it's rigged, if you know that you are indulging in a step-down product, get off the product. Stop doing it. You don't have to do this. Shout out to Rasta for tipping $25.
Starting point is 00:42:59 He said, Pinto beans, black beans times two, love. He's saying that's a lot. That's wild. I think Donaldman's Pinto. But what's the in between?
Starting point is 00:43:13 What's in between? What's half Pinto? What's going to be just that? Like kidney. You're a kidney. Yeah. Yeah, most for sure, Black Bean. Oh, duh.
Starting point is 00:43:27 But you, I come into question. Shout out to Danny Elkenture for tipping $5. Five? am i linton next up we got something else real fucking stupid to talk about after that betting tobacco and that is the latest Kyle Kuzma quote
Starting point is 00:43:47 y'all he's done it again he's broken the internet by saying the stupidest thought that's ever occurred to his brain he let it out he said Kyle Kuzn says he's done trying to fit in on the wizards he was asked how did you do so well today because he scored 30 points a couple games ago he said I think today
Starting point is 00:44:03 I just decided to be myself and not really try to fit into everything that we're doing here, just being more assertive, demanding the ball, not just going out there and trying to let people develop, just playing my game. I'm really shocked.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I'm really shocked, honestly, that Kyle Kuzma doesn't have his own podcast by now. I'm right, like, as much as you've heard Kyle Kuzman talk on social media, the fact that, like, everybody has a player podcast, and Kuzma and or his team has not, said yeah let's put a mic in front of you one time a week like just get your thoughts out just unfiltered right we can we can really do something dangerous i'm shocked i'm shocked bring him over here to td3 productions we got td3 got p 94 i'm off let me say all this stupid
Starting point is 00:44:51 shit he wants we can get Kyle kuzman his own spin-off show like i just yeah i'm just like i can produce some shows we'll get him right let's make a couple guys hey Kyle kuzma let's work What are we talking about here? Yo, let's build. Let's do, brother. Put that knee him right now. Yeah, so this is fucking stupid. He is a player who is pushing 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:45:15 He's a good player, but he is not to the level in which any teams be built around him. He is clearly in his next destination going to be on a team that's trying to win games, presumably, and need him to buy into a role, right? Apparently the Mavs won him last year before they got PJ Washington, and he said, now I'm good. I'm going to stay on the Wizards and just get my motherfucking buckets. then this year came around they said Kyle we'd like you to get a little bit less buckets
Starting point is 00:45:37 so we can develop the young guys who matter for the future he obviously isn't liking that but what does he expect to come from this a team is going to say like actually I think we would want Kyle Cousin to get motherfucking buckets for us
Starting point is 00:45:47 so we can be with the Wizardsware last year I think that'd be great we'd also like number two pick or does he think a team that is good and he's going to want his services is going to see this and feel encouraged probably not
Starting point is 00:45:57 like this is so stupid for the value of Kyle Cusma well Utah on that line I know they want the number two pick He wants to be a professional tank commander Is that what he wants for his career? He's already at that point
Starting point is 00:46:11 Like it's it's it's it's been like that You know so I think like there There was a time where Kyle Kuzma Could have been a very very like helpful And instrumental piece to like another championship situation I that time is just not It's just it's passed and the fact that like he clearly has it in his mind he's been converted he's played for the wizards long enough
Starting point is 00:46:38 and he's been in a bad situation to where he's like all that I care about is getting my money and getting buckets that's who Kyle Kuzma is at this point so whatever idea that you had of like a helpful role player that's not gone no he took the man there's the red pill and the blue pill he took the wrong one now he cares about is money and buckets but even then if if he really cares about money like he would sit down and realize like oh shit like my contract is deloading for the next two years I want to make a 19 mil a couple years bro he needs to like correct
Starting point is 00:47:09 how people feel about him and his play on the fucking court play a role be a bet the formula that people see buckets equals money that's what he thinks that's what it's like not all but not all buckets are equal though we know this
Starting point is 00:47:26 you know that he might not want to believe that all right man that's enough calclusion talk i can't do it anymore good lord let's move on to the quarter that's all it takes one cut two free throws you're on the pace for 20 it's simple all right man so let's do what the title of this episode says let's react to you guys's trade ideas for the day a shout to shrimp de ream for tipping three dollars shout That's a clever four for tip and $3. I appreciate y'all. I tweeted out on the T3 Twitter yesterday
Starting point is 00:48:01 to add us with your best trade ideas and we'll react to them. And I have a absolute fuck ton a trade idea is to show you guys for us to talk about. Let's start. Let's show I'm sharing to it. From Tyler Schwartz,
Starting point is 00:48:13 he says it spent an hour and a half on this one. This is a four-team trade. This better be good. Phoenix receives Jimmy Butler, Chris Bouchet, and Dave Yon Mitchell. Milwaukee receives Bradley Beal, Monta Mores Garrett Temple
Starting point is 00:48:27 in a first round pick Miami receives Chris Middleton Bobby Portis in a first round pick and Toronto receives Usen Ericich
Starting point is 00:48:35 Pat Conninton in a first round pick As soon as I heard Bradley Bill Milwaukee I stopped listening so I don't know I don't know what the last team said
Starting point is 00:48:42 I don't like you for that specific reason because again pairing Dame and Bradley Beal don't love that at all I think the the main winner in this
Starting point is 00:48:54 would be who would the main winner would probably be Phoenix Phoenix yeah they gave it a Nurkich and Beal and bringing Butler Bouchet Dave you're all right dub yeah like
Starting point is 00:49:05 yeah you get another big who Chris Boucher's not like I'm thinking about a tanking team getting Nurkich and be like yeah we're on our way that's a good point that's a good point they're on the way
Starting point is 00:49:18 they're on the way to the next several fucking lottery things Nirkint will help you achieve that goal that's what I'm saying saying. That's what I'm saying. You are trying to tank. You get Nerkitz and you get a first for a team that has, for a team and like, I don't know who this first is coming from. I'm assuming from Phoenix, but you would get, you would get a first round pick from a team that has old
Starting point is 00:49:39 Kevin Durant and old Jimmy Butler and is on the verge of as it is. It's not bad. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's obviously there was an initial report that people thought Milwaukee was interested in Bradley Beale and the Chris Haynes came out and he was like, so I I've heard they don't fucking want him at all. Thankfully, they're probably not going to try to pair Bradley Biel with Damien Lillard. But, you know, if you just replace Milwaukee with whatever other team out there maybe wants Bradley Biel and that maybe he's willing to waive his absurd no trade clause, I see the vision outside of that. If you just replace Milwaukee with somebody else. But then the Middleton of it all changes, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Yeah, it does, it does change so much. It does change so much. Why the hell will Miami want Chris Middleton and Bobby Porters? Because they want to be mid. They do want to be mid. they want they want to be mid it so question for you guys though if you guys were Milwaukee obviously like star aside is there any situation where you guys would feel inclined to trade chris middleton right now yes any situation yeah if i can get an upgrade i'm one day
Starting point is 00:50:39 to go i'm not actively looking like middleton got to go but if the deal of right deal approaches like he can go like if zach levine if they if they like that fit i i think middleton can go Interesting. So if it was, if it was Dame Levine, Prince, Dan, yeah, Dame Levine, Prince. Yonis Brooke. Lopez? I moved. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let's do it. Speaking of Zach Levine, next trade from Max Picks. He says, Zach Levine for Kelton Johnson, Harrison Barnes, and the Bulls 2025 first round pickback. So basically, is Zach Levine for contracts and their own pick for this year? that's a steal i'll take that i don't know if i want to give the value has been what do you
Starting point is 00:51:27 so fans are realizing he's good do you feel like front offices are going to see this and value zach levin more than a single first trump pick no probably i think yeah i don't i don't think so because something that you said um i think a couple episodes ago whenever we were talking about zach Levine was that the overall like group think in NBA circles and even like like NBA front offices are not immune to hearing everybody say this guy has a bad contract so it's a bad contract I don't think that the bulls are immune to that so I don't think that they would necessarily be like oh yeah Zach Levine is this this and this especially after last season where nobody wanted him so they probably still are a little bit on that spectrum of like it probably
Starting point is 00:52:11 like we probably can't ask for a massive hall for that yeah okay i don't know if the chicago if the san antonio spurs will be in position to willingly take someone like zach levin he is a little bit older i think he might be just freshly 30 or 29 or something like that i'm not to say he doesn't like match the timeline because wemby's going to be good forever in zach levine can't imagine he his athletic isn't going to like wither away anytime soon but i just don't the exact convene is moving the needle necessarily as much as you want Okay. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I got another bulls-related trade. Yeah. I got another Bulls-related trade from local Bulls fan on Twitter. Oh, wrong monitor. He says, Yusuf Nurkich in the 2025 first-round pick from the Sons for Patrick Williams. They take on Nurtz's deal and they get a first-on-pick for Pat Williams. Does Pat Williams move you to the Sons?
Starting point is 00:53:06 It's thought about Pat Williams. It's about moving away from Nirk-it's in my mind. Yeah, I mean, that's great. But it's only worth moving there because you're getting something useful in return, especially for one of those first-round picks. I would do it. I think if this trade happened,
Starting point is 00:53:25 I think Chicago would fleece. Yeah, Patrick Williams kind of sucks. Mm-hmm. He's T. definitely suck. Yeah, I'm just, I'm not the biggest Pat Williams fan. I'll put it like that. You guys said, say what you guys said? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:53:41 can flip those two guys on, you know, the level of not really for my team and you are on the side that's getting the first round pick. Yeah, you can use it. Ooh, here's an interesting one. The Bucks get Denny Avdiha and Robert Williams. The Blazers get Chris Middleton and a first round pick. I think it might cost more because Denny's been really fucking good this year. But in general, depending on the conversation getting tweaked, do you like Denny and Robert Williams of the bucks. Obviously, Robert Williams can play like four games in a row before his knees explode, but Denny's interesting. Denny's a great player, bro. He's the best player on the, on the trailblazers, which, you know, it is what it is. But in transition, his defense,
Starting point is 00:54:25 good, you know, passing is there. He's a, he's a great all-round player. And him coming off the bench or starting or whatever for the scene, filling in the gaps, it'll be amazing. And Robert Williams, we all know what he is at the, at the peak of his game, which is like, you know, can he be on the court? He's good. He just does good things all the time. but they actually had that I don't know someone says the Blazers front office is brain dead enough to actually do this I mean yeah
Starting point is 00:54:50 you can probably I actually don't know two first time picks for Denny that seems a bit rich so maybe that's not the case yeah that's the and Robert Williams is you
Starting point is 00:55:01 they would sell him for free not for free before I get second round a couple second round picks is the market for Rob Williams so yeah we sell this now I would have been I would I would do it if I was Milwaukee I would I would do it I think I think Danny would give you something that you that you need and then we continue
Starting point is 00:55:28 to talk about this team like they are you know an older team Rob Will he's always hurt but he's still pretty athletic and just getting getting some people who could like who could jump pretty high some other athletic guys would be would be nice for them who want this trade so this guy sebs oh nine oh nine nine wants to see the pacer's get r j barrett and davion mitchell for obitopin aaron neesmith jarris walker and andrew nimhart okay never mind this trade is ridiculous no no no no no no no i'm hard is where you cross the fucking line yeah nobody well let's zoom out obviously the compensation is dumb but would you want to see r j barrett on the pacer's no never mind sorry sebs i tried i threw you the line they say get out of you yeah i'm sorry i understand
Starting point is 00:56:16 the need of or wanting to upgrade the three spot but i don't think i think rj bear is the most like lateral move that you could make yeah i think uh nismith is probably just a better fit by himself same okay how about this one from roxies and 60946 dwight powell two second round picks for Duop Reith from the Portland Trailblazers. I kind of like that. The Mavericks could use another big with Derek lively hurt. Duop Reith is really good.
Starting point is 00:56:45 He's just like hidden on the bench behind DeAndre Aitin, Klingin, Robert Williams. Dwight Powell is Dallas Mavericks legend. Salute. He can go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:57 100%. I think that Dwight Powell, Dwight Powell is the kind of player that Dallas will eventually get rid of, but in about five to six years, he's going to come back. He's going to be, on their TV coverage, right?
Starting point is 00:57:09 He's going to call Mavericks games, right? He's going to be on the post game, the pregame live for Dallas. They've been looking to upgrade that spot for years between him and Cleveland. So if you can actually get somebody that I can come in and make an impact right now, I would 100% do that.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I don't hate that trade. Yeah, I think they actively need another big, I think. Especially with lively injured now. Again, we'll see where they're at in a few weeks when the deadline is here because like depending on when luca comes back this season could really spire real quick but if they want to make a deep run i would feel better to have a little more depth there yeah but right now as they speak the dallas mavericks are the ninth seed and they're
Starting point is 00:57:50 just they're just a game a half game up on the sacramento kings scary stuff scary get us scary that's tough man i imagine they balls the plan man yeah i hope he goes back soon here's an interesting one i haven't thought about the bulls acquired kelden johnson 2025 first round pick 2025 second round pick 26 second round pick so two seconds in first plus Kelvin for Kobe White
Starting point is 00:58:15 done Kobe White to the Bulls I mean to the Spurs does that move you that feels better because of Kobe White's youth and is all around this I don't know if it
Starting point is 00:58:30 I don't know if it'll move me enough is there a first round pick involved yeah the Bulls pick from this year I'm not doing it Can't do it sorry they want to pick probably. Yeah, they're doing all they can to go and get this pick back. I'm just not doing it If if if only reason you do is have zero confidence and like Stefan Castle and do a cell like zero Yeah, I think a lot of these some of the trades that we've read today are a little bit one-sided where If I'm Chicago, I'm doing this trade if I'm saying to tell you I'm never offering this trade
Starting point is 00:59:04 Well, you don't like Kobe White going to the Spurs in general? It's a good player. He fits. It's fine. But, I mean, I would. And maybe I'm just so, yeah, maybe I'm just so like Deerrin Fox, you know, like tunnel vision right now, especially with the news of the day where I'm like, if you are not going out to get a star, then don't do it. But like, I would like to see San Antonio make a little bit of a bigger. upgrade if you're going to go out and you know start trading future first round picks and stuff
Starting point is 00:59:38 like that. Okay. How about the magic? Get CJ McCollum and they send out Cole Anthony, Gary Harris, Jet Howard, and Caleb Houston. So no picks involved, just depth in Jet Howard, who's a young player, that might be something. Yeah. Jet Howard, letting go a Jet Howard kind of sucks a little bit because he has actual potential. But I think I would do this because Seed McCollum's game is going to be what it is over the next two and a half, three years or so, and he alleviates so much pain from Jalen Suggs and Powell McCarrow's shoulders. I would do that at Arby. I kind of like that fit. Again, the magic don't play people that can't play defense. It's like their ethos. If you're not a great defender, you're not touching our goddamn court. But they have 10 other guys
Starting point is 01:00:20 that play great defense and their offense is disgusting. CJ would fit really well playing off those wings. You can give a little bit of rope on the defensive side, bring in at least one guy who's going to be an average defender that can really light up your team as a shooter. I, this might be the one team I really like C. C.J. McCollins fit on. Let's, let's do it. Let's do it. It's not a huge investment. Yeah. And the fact that like you've already seen injuries from one of,
Starting point is 01:00:45 of you two guys, it gives you a little bit more leeway if any one of them gets hurt again to where, you know, if, like, if CJ has to, CJ is able to go up and give you, you know, 20, 22 points a game and it's going to be fine. So I'm, I'm with that. Yeah, and you could like, then you got a KCP come off the bench. which is nice, luxury to have. If you want to start CJ
Starting point is 01:01:05 for spacing reasons? Yeah. That's a nice little rotation. Good trade. Good trade. Shout out Iris. Let's someone said Lakers for any damn center.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Let's move over to chat. Chat, you guys spam your trade request, your trade ideas. I keep saying requests. You guys spam your trade ideas, but we'll do someone along for chat before we get back to Twitter. In the meantime, shout out to James
Starting point is 01:01:26 for $10. He said, if every team lost their best player, who would be the best team in the league? Probably the Celtics. or the Cavs the Cavs would be fine with Adi Mitch Yeah
Starting point is 01:01:38 I think it would be the Cavs who would see the biggest fall off probably the Denver Nuggets The Denver Nuggets Oh my Nuggets Yeah the Nuggets
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah So I'm gonna say Kevin Rand to the Rockas Yeah We've been there for a long time That'd be great But I don't see The Sun's blowing it up
Starting point is 01:01:53 Nix get Oche Agbaji For Sims and Kolic From Kelvin B From Calvin Ball in the chat I think I kind of like that If Mitchell Robinson is back
Starting point is 01:02:04 And they don't need Jericho Sims As much they need him now And you give a rookie O'Shea Boggi's good They could use another wing I'm not gonna lie It's play the rookie Play hookporty
Starting point is 01:02:16 I love Hookporty so much I would like to see him get in it So like yeah it would make sense To get rid of Jericho In that in that case Plus that means that you wouldn't eventually Because like you still have a couple years I think
Starting point is 01:02:31 instead of like two years of deuce mcbride on his contract so you have enough guard play between deuce between deuce campaign this year jaylin right yeah josh hard can do whatever you know boy handy playmaking whatever so it's fine hmm in the chat said ingram to clippers and i don't know about ingram specifically clippers but we didn't talk enough about brandon ingram it was reported today at the pills are trying to make a big big trade it's been reported a thousand times they want to get rid of Ingram. So I can see that being it. Where do you want to see him go?
Starting point is 01:03:07 Ingram to Raps, I'm seeing in the chat. Raptors and Ingram is interesting. Him to the Raptors would be fine. I don't know if that's like the answer, but it's a better answer than what they have right now in R.J. Barrett. I think for Ingram, I love to see him on the team like the Indiana Pacers.
Starting point is 01:03:23 That kind of changes the infrastructure of their team and their identity a lot. Fuck it. Hell. Ingram to the Miami Heat. That'll be solid. That'll help maintain whatever identity they have. Ingram for the Hornets. I'm singing in the chat.
Starting point is 01:03:38 The Hornets need divine intervention at this rate. They are just flailing. They're never going to be good again. I'm done believing in them. They've pissed off some Egyptian god or something a millennium ago. They're done. What about Ingram to the Detroit Pistons? Donovan.
Starting point is 01:03:54 You're over here trying to trade everybody to the business the other day? I am. And I was. And I stand by it. And I would do it again. Yeah, I'd trade Ingram to the pistons. I'd do it. Well, actually, they need talent.
Starting point is 01:04:08 And so, like, if you ultimately decided and landed, like, Brandon Ingram right now between, like, age and scoring ability is what we need. Cool. But, I mean, I think I would want somebody, maybe a little bit more of, like, an explosive score. That's why, like, I'm using. If it was between, like, Zach Levine and Brennan Ingraham, I would go to Zach Levine, but, you know, just like asking about the question, yes, I would do it.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Okay. Another one from Twitter is an interesting one. Do you guys want to see that Thunaga, Cam Johnson? How are we standing on that? We haven't talked about Cam Johnson in a while. This guy said Kirk Heinrich, Usman Dang, Nicola Topich, and then a 2025 Philly first-round pick, which that's... Did I hear Kirk Heinrich? Kendrick Williams.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Did I say Kirk Heinrich? Yeah. Come on fucking back in the league. There we go. Got me, Kirk. who Kenridge Williams Kenridge Williams
Starting point is 01:05:03 Usumand Dang and Nicola Topic one first round pick and one second round pick for Cameron Johnson Why not? It's kind of high That's ultimately yeah
Starting point is 01:05:17 It would be a why not This one says The Philadelphia pick Which is way too rich This must be a fan of the Nets Who wants that pick That's not happening
Starting point is 01:05:27 But I don't mind Topic filler and one first-on-pick for Cam Johnson. That's interesting. Yeah. In my mind, okay, see, they need to be like not panicking, but they need to start actually being active in the, okay, it's starting to like recycle picks and players and like for guys who we think, man, I'll work out. Let's go ahead and get rid of them now. It's kind of damage that you have to get rid of Nicola Topich, of course, and give away a couple of picks, but I mean, it is what it is at the end of day. Nicola Topich might not be the reason why
Starting point is 01:05:55 you guys eventually. He's probably not going to be the reason why you guys don't win the fucking championship at the end of the day whenever that time comes. I would do that. It's time to consolidate. Someone, Jay Money in the chat said Ingram to the Bucks. I don't know how that could happen
Starting point is 01:06:10 because could you make that work in Middleton? Probably could. I would like, I kind of like that. Middleton, Ingram to the Bucks. I wouldn't be bad. Okay. That wouldn't be bad. He has similar, he has a very similar in between game. He's a similar archetype to
Starting point is 01:06:26 Chris Milton except he's just a worst three-point shooter. I like that a lot actually I actually like that his passing is worse but yeah that's the that's the thing that that worries me is is his passing he's a good passer what do you mean compared to
Starting point is 01:06:41 to military I think like the it's a little worse the inherent the inherent like connectivity that that Middleton has with with Yannison with that system and everything but yeah they if you can add an upgrade and
Starting point is 01:06:55 honestly add somebody who is more dependable at this stage in their career, that would mean a lot more to me than Chris Middleton and, you know, still being in the process of, like, bringing him along and ramping him up to, like, playoff minutes and doing all that stuff, I would take Brendan ingone. Okay, what about Brandon Ingram for Andrew Wiggins, sending him to Golden State with that movie? Yes, let's fucking do it.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Someone who can dribble. Someone who can give me a hez-twee, just pull up, bro. Yes, let's do that. Yes. If your name is not Steph Curry or Jemong Green, you can be traded from the Golden State Warriors. In fact, you should be traded for the Golden State Warriors. Not T.J.D.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Gone. Someone said Grayson Allen to the Pistons. That would be cool if it was last year's Grayson Allen. Grayson Allen added like 30 pounds of muscle and now he's slow as hell and can't defend anybody. He's so, so bad now with this much muscle on him. It's crazy how much of a speed dip off he took. Can't be a big body shooter.
Starting point is 01:07:53 It's hard to be a big body shooter. It is. I think he came out the other day and just talked about how much that was a goddamn lie. He didn't get him like legitimately 30 pounds. I made the number of. I made the number of. No, it was put out. You didn't make that. It was actually put out there. Whatever the number is. That man is swole now. And they clearly did that because they want to defend wings. But now with the way, what this team needs, he's defending guards again
Starting point is 01:08:13 while being huge and he's slow and it doesn't work. Tough times. He needs a career pass switch. He needs to be an IFBBBB or some shit, bro. What is IFBBBB? Like professional bodybuilder. Oh. What about Vucevich for the Warriors? That's one that's been floated around a lot with lots of variations in the chat. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Any trade to the Warriors, we are signing off. I don't want to see if at the end of the year, everybody who is on the roster right now is on the roster at the end of the season. It is a failure of trade season. Somebody has to get moved. The other day I found out on the last podcast episode that we are allowed to trade. coaches and shit yeah okay again me you we are the committee at td3 what if we were approached with an opportunity to trade donovan away from this podcast to the golden state warriors for three player interviews are we doing that i'm starting to feel like my three player interviews
Starting point is 01:09:15 trade don't away for somewhere for three player interviews we get curry we could get curry and kerry's one of them yes listen man sometimes if it's if it's great listen i don't Sometimes when you run an organization, you've got to make tough decisions with lifelong members of a fandom. People that will one day, people that will one day be in the rafters, you had to say goodbye for the greater good of the franchise in their future. I'm afraid we're going to have to ship you off to the bed. I'll send you some apartments right now. Maybe they'll buy you out. Maybe they'll buy you out.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Maybe they'll buy you out. Yes. They're going to buy you out. contract you can go sign with somebody else you go sign up to pick a side podcast or something we'll get you right which will help you rebound to a new situation we're going to rebuild
Starting point is 01:10:11 through the draft through his Steph Curry interview yes exactly give me a podcast and draft Mo better hope I don't get a broad interview sent to my mailbox otherwise I've been shipping both of you have oh shit hey I'm happening
Starting point is 01:10:28 So I got you guys to trade Don for Moses Moody. Trade Donovan for 10 minutes of LeBron. Ten minutes of LeBron. So I got Don to numbers on the board. Well, now we got Donovan trade packages. No, that's crazy. Sorry, Donovan. Yeah, we're doing a lot.
Starting point is 01:10:47 What am I done? They said trade Don the kitty and most purple crayon for a step interview. I'm in a package. So now it's not just me. alone. Coming to Phoenix for Beal, good Lord. I wish for all my heart that I'd have to see Warriors fans' reaction to getting Bradley Beale.
Starting point is 01:11:09 That'd be so funny. That is absolutely disgusting. People are saying a bunch of Lakers trades, Walker Kessler, Yakopodal, I think we're getting nothing. I think we're going to learn to live with the mid-season edition being Jared Vanderbilt. That's what we're going to be sold. Shams had to come out and say that the Lakers
Starting point is 01:11:30 were not on the list for Deera Fox. That was hilarious. Yeah. I'll blame you to the Lakers. That's hilarious. All right, man, well, that's all the trades we're here to react to today.
Starting point is 01:11:44 We've hit our quota. I think that's it, y'all. Yeah. Listen, we'll see you guys. We'll see you guys next week. Hopefully I haven't been traded. Yeah. In this last week,
Starting point is 01:11:54 Donna's going to be here. We're not going to trade them. We missed last week's live because we had to do something for HOH. We had to do another shoot. People were commenting because, dude, so last week's episode, we were one day late and then we missed it live. We got several comments that's like, so what is y'all's upload schedule now? It's so different. I'm like, bro, it changed for two days.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Like, relax. We're going to be here again every Tuesday. Nothing changed. Hey, man. We'll see you on a week. We're good. We're good. Calm down, you all.
Starting point is 01:12:22 We're not going anywhere.

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