The Deep 3 Podcast - The Biggest Surprises Of The NBA Finals | Ep. 220

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

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We came here on this show on Thursday. After game one, Donovan's face was blue. And orange. And orange. Can't forget the orange. New York experience, but on an all-time high, you were three wins away. I'm seeing your team win. When an NBA follower for the first time in your lifetime,

for the first time in your father's lifetime, you're not two wins away. How does it feel? Feels great, man. And that's why I have, I do have a favorite ass. Okay. Can I borrow $10,000? Okay.

For what? I need to get to game three tonight. I have to be in the building. Tonight. So you had to finish his podcast, wrap up, go home, pack your bag, get a one-day trip to New York. Mind you, I keep a travel bag on standby. The bag is already packed. It's been packed since Saturday night.

The plane tickets picked out too? Yes. Okay. So, again, I'll hit you back like, I don't know. Whatever. We ain't never seen that back. But if you can send that money quickly, that would be very much appreciated. We'll start a go for money.

for you. And hopefully it's $10,000 in the next three hours. It's a write-off. It's a right-off. It's a right-off. I guess it could be a write-off. Low-key.

It straight-up could be a right-off. Now, is it a beneficial right-off? Fuck, no. It's $10,000. But it could be. It could happen. But just, listen, we have about two hours of the show.

Think about it. I'll ask you guys again at the end of the show. Okay. Yeah. I'll think about it. Yeah. You'll think about it for sure.

You can take a guest with the answer. That's all I want. It's just consideration. Just a thought. Let's see what we're feeling now. Mind you. It's not 10,000 for me. It'll be 5,000, 5,000.

Really? 3,000, 3,000, 4,000. Okay. Four. Four. Keep it in the tax. Yeah. As you guys see,

Bratado, we are here today to talk about the biggest surprises in the NBA finals. We're going to talk about game two, talk about game three. It's happening today when you're listening to this. As well as react to your guys' picks for the biggest things

that have surprised you from both teams in this series. Should be a lot of fun. Man, it's a magical moment we're seeing. This rise of the Knicks and this crazy catching lightning in a bottle run. Feels like we're watching one of the most enjoyable runs we've seen in the last 20 years. We're going to sweep them, man. You know what's crazy?

You might. It's on the table. It's super on the table. It's super on the table. And that's crazy. That's true. But I'm not going to lie. I am kind of nervous, though.

Today is just like weird. Something's in here. You woke up. It feels insidious. There's a, there's the game. then there's another event you know kind of correlated to the game I'm not really sure how that's going to impact the game

bad chakra in the air bad chakra in the air yeah bad energy can hear the answer music let's talk about that terrible fucking chakra in the air we're throwing it back whoa that's crazy he was bragging I don't

the cranium is crazy oh my god rejoice. So, Legend, I'm straightened to talking about it. Game two obviously happened. After game one, we came up here. Me and Mo picked Knicks in a long series. I said seven.

Mo said six. You obviously picked the Knicks. And after game one, I said, I'm still going to stand with the Spurs, give them more time before you flip. But there's a lot of reasons to feel better about the Knicks right now after that first game.

If you thought it was a seven-game series, there's a good reason to flip right now from what we saw and what tracks and what we thought we'd see in the series continues, the impact of Cat, the crazy shooting continued, everything that we knew could go back and forth on both sides. A lot of stuff went the Knicks way in game one.

Who'd have thought? All those same things went the Knicks way in game two. And here we are up to O. What was your main takeaway? That Tony brothers should be arrested. For what? Mind you so much went well for him. Man, that was crazy.

Listen, they were punching Brunson in the face every single, every single play. I cannot. I honestly, but like the overall, like the physicality of game two was the most jarring thing that they came out it was outrageous yeah richard jeffson was talking about it on the broadcast he was like i've never said this we need more foul calls this is crazy like both teams are assaulting each other yeah and i i i do think that like it's it's been interesting because like in game one the spurs were more physical in the first half and you were seeing like the nix adjust to it and then they're like okay well let's turn that help even more and so i do feel like they're

even like though that the nicks had pulled away there still was this this element of like okay how are you going to handle this level of physicality? But outside of that, throughout the entire game, first half specifically, Kat played the best half of basketball that he's ever played. In terms of, not even in terms of just like scoring or like the crazy passes that he was,

but in terms of tempo, control, understanding when to attack, how to attack, I thought that he was amazing. And like at this, at this point, and I haven't, I haven't checked the thought, well, the last time I took the,

Brunson was still the favorite to win finals MVP. I think as you talk about it and as you go through these first two games, Cat has been the best player over the first two games. So I don't think like that's the... I don't think it's close. I don't think it's close. All playoff run, we've been talking about the cat thing, right? Brunson's been good.

And Kat has... He started from a place of us viewing Brunson as a clear-cut best player. So as the weeks go on, as the sweeps piled up, we're applauding Kat, we're saying great job. It's amazing to see him play at this level. beautiful run for a guy figuring out the right time right but we still very much talk about brunson is the guy in the team like big picture wise because how you're not going to flip after like beating the shit out of the sixers right but we're this far in now into the playoffs everyone's

talking about what he's doing to wemby for the entirety this run he's their clear cut best player to me now at least especially for the finals we can you don't know you don't let to rewrite too much about the early rounds before this run capitalizing it on the finals he's their clear cut most impactful player yeah 100% i agree i'm surprised at those odds because right now cat he's been their best player one of the best players obviously defensively so i think that's where like the bridges the bridge gaps but also offensively too again it's it's it's a lot of important things and his offense really turns on in the final like three four minutes of the game but the rest of that game like he's the type of shots that he's taking it's normal bunch of shots but at times it's just like it feels like

he's been forcing it a little bit meanwhile cat like he's doing all the little important things or also like being the literal only person in the entire league who can look at when being being be like yeah like there's nothing you can do about this and i'm going to help facilitate everything else going on 100% not not that brunson can't do but with the way cat does it it's even more important is that tom agrees he said the biggest surprise to him in this NBA finals is cat being on track from finals MVP and it is a surprise and we've talked about it every stretch of the way right that this cat run has been great and we're all happy for him and all these things outside of like enjoying it this is one the most impactful players in the NBA like him playing at this level

not making any of the mistakes you used to make on offense where he would take ill-advised offensive rebound attempts, take ill-advised, turnovers. The shots were forced at times attacking people in late games. Like, we remember what happened last year even in the Pacer series, where he didn't have a terrible year. But there was a big argument that he's one of the main reasons they lost in that series. To flip all that offensively and be so in control, so decisive, that makes him more impactful offensively by doing less,

best version of himself ever, when we already talked about him as one of the more skilled offensive players. Now you're skilled and impactful. Defensively, we know he's night and day better than he used to be. everything we've said about all these modern bigs who can space the floor, play good enough defense, pass the ball,

make everybody better around him. He's super, Chad Holmgren right now. He's super whatever version of player you want that does those two-way things space on the floor and playing defense. This is straight up one of the best players in the world right now.

Yeah. So he's still second right now. The gap is a little bit closer than what it was right after game two. So he's creeped up. And if you listen to basically anybody who's doing like NBA pods, everybody's saying like,

yeah, catch my finals, MVP. I think the one thing for Jalen that's keeping him in the lead is the fact that the clutch shooting is what the clutch shooting is. And so like he's been the one to take those shots. And so. But even the numbers. That's no, the numbers, the numbers are crazy.

I think in game two, I think game two was a little bit better from from him. Even though that obviously like the shooting was still bad, I think he did a much better job of not forcing. Where in game one, I think there were a couple more shots that he forced. Until that late game stretch when the spurs came back in game two. Even then. There was a lot of Jaylon Brunsubal, cat standing around and kind of allowed the spurs to get back in the game.

Even then, I don't feel like those shots were forced, though. I think like they were, like in game one, we were talking about, hey, you jumping straight up, like those shots of you in the, in the frito area, in the frito line, right, frito line extended all those things. Those shots are not going to be there. Those and ones are not going to be there.

So I feel like he did a better job of taking those away. And I think game two was just a little bit more. Those shots are not going in. He had a bunch of shots that were, in and out, he's missing, he's missing layups. Just this thing that aren't necessarily normal Jalen Brunson. So that's why I am, I do think obviously he will shoot better. But yeah, he has to.

He's just shooting so poorly right now. The craziest part right now that the Knicks are up to O at Jalen Brunson shooting like 35%, 34% from the field. That's disgusting work from the Spurs. Well, because McHale doesn't miss a shot anymore. Apparently, you're right. Back to Brooklyn, McHale. This is better than Brooklyn McHale. Sure.

Yeah, that's fair. I mean, when we're shooting like 70% of three, sure. But either way, every element of this team is clicking right now. Like through two games, they are just a better team in pretty much every way. The shooting is the main difference, is that the Knicks defensively can do extremely good job against the Spurs because they can load up on these Wemby drives, they can load up on his rolls, do these early rotations because they know we can leave these corner shooters open and they're not going to beat us. They haven't so far.

The Nicks are, I mean, the Spurs, I think last time I checked, we're shooting 30% from three on the series. That's not good enough. The Knicks have not missed a shot. It feels like for four playoff rounds, and it continues. Every single aspect of this team is clicking at the right time. This is the truest version of catching a spark at the right time to win a championship. And you know what? Honestly, like, I agree with that.

But when it comes to the matchup between the Spurs specifically and more so Victor Murmiyama and Kat, the Knicks Ben had their number for a minute. The last time that one of the last time that these two teams played was in March. March 1st specifically this year. And around that time, the Spurs were on a fucking run. They won like maybe 15, 11 to 12 games straight. And they faced Knicks at Madison Square Garden caught straight belt. They had like 89 points in the game.

And the other thing, Nick scored like 114 or whatever. And in that game, too, you see similar things happening in the stat sheet. And also, if you visit you watch the game, too, if you go back and watch that tape, same things happening when it comes to Kat, just like. being looking unguarded. We didn't have like a crazy 20 point game or anything like that. But still, there's just so much that he does offensively. That's just been unsolvable for Wemby in this next team or this first team overall.

Yeah. So that's the interesting part is I don't even, we know what happened in game two. We know that Wemby once again did not play his best game in the final minutes. Once again had a, I don't know choke job is too dramatic, but not a clutch performance at all. I don't, I don't think it's too dramatic. Okay, he had a choke job. Oh, no, it's not too dramatic at all. I forgot.

This is the game with the fucking turnover. Yeah. Which, okay, we're kind of a little bit. Let's talk about game two real quick before we get into really capturing the moment of the magic of the next run. Game two, we come out first half. Wembe is on nothing.

He is playing passive, which to an extent I understand. In game one I talked about in the beginning, I think they did way too much of an effort for him to attack Cat one-on-one and get him into foul trouble in the post trying to really get these touches where you can't help on him, where Wembe's just going to be the better offensive player

and establish the rhythm of the game for himself. That was too forced to me in game one. game two i think they agreed and they came out and he was focusing on screening opening up the offense for others getting everybody else going to his detriment only four shot attempts i understand that mode of thinking but obviously you got to find a better balance right comes out in game the second half it's a third quarter fantastic is aggressive scores a lot makes himself have a respectable game ended up approaching 30 points because that second half was much better than the first so it wasn't some crazy disaster disappear act like it seemed like it could have been the first half then we get to

the end of the game and all game the nicks are doing nicks thing that we've seen this entire run where they get down in games. It doesn't matter. They're going to continue to play their game. Continue to click on all levels. Find threes, make threes, whittle away every single lead, build their own. We get to the end.

It's a close game again because the Spurs have their own run. Two for one opportunity. It's going to be forces an awkward three against two for one. Bricks it. Comes back. They get a stop. Turns the ball over by throwing it as to Fawn Castle's back.

It's okay. Brunsson only makes one a free throw. if another chance to come out, get a decent look on a pick and pop opportunity to win the game, misses it. Three straight plays to end the game where Wemby does not come through as a superstar player. What was y'all's main takeaway from that?

Especially the turnover. Was that Castle's fault? Was that Webby's fault? What's going on? What was your takeaway? I think when it comes to that specific play right there, I think if I'm Mitch Johnson, I blame it on myself.

Because you at that point in time, me to have all awareness in the world, that you have your center who's been kind of shaky here and there. And then you have Stefan Castle, who hasn't had the best series at all. And Deerre Fox is at this point nowhere near the ball. You need to call a time out. You don't want to go ahead and have a go-head bucket attempt at that moment in time

because I don't think you have the necessary ball handlers or proven shot makers, elite level shot makers, to make those type of plays happen. Like, yeah, like we've seen Wembe do crazy stuff specifically, like I think it was a game one or two shot against O KC and all that. But those are two completely different situations. if he's bringing the ball up even further. So I think that's the craziest part to me right there. And I think if I'm Miss Johnson, that's like one of the biggest blights of the series.

So I've seen, I've seen everybody say that. And I can understand it, right? But also at the same time, I'm, I'm, they just have to communicate. Like, they just have to be on the same page more than, more than they were. And if you look at the, like there's a video where it's slowed down. Yeah, from the back angle, Castle looks and puts his hand down like, yo, relax. Like, it's, it's okay. he's not calling for the ball, but he's like, yo, just chill and just go.

They have to be on the same page there. I think that meant he wanted him to give it to Deerran. I think is what Castle expected. Yeah, either way, right? That ball shouldn't have left Wemby's hands. And I'm okay with it just because if you call a timeout in that moment, the Knicks can take Kat off the floor and they can take Brunton off the floor. And now the Knicks are able to play offense defense with the timeout in their back pocket.

You have 14 seconds left. You're right. If you're in transition and you have the guys that, that you have out on the floor, you can push, you can get a better opportunity where the defense isn't set where they don't have their five best defenders

and you trust your guys to go make a play. I think it was, I think it was okay to not call a timeout in that, in that situation. Coming out of the timeout, the play that they called, I thought that that was also okay. I think that was fine.

My biggest issue with that is, I think DeA. Fox waited too long to go. I think they had nine, they had nine point five, yeah, at 9.5 seconds whenever the play started. Deerrin didn't really go until like five seconds left. I feel like he should have went around six seconds

or just because you know that the game is going to end right here. It's going to end on this side. You should give yourself maybe an opportunity to, hey, if you do miss, we have an opportunity for a rebounder or something like that. I think the execution from the Spurs in the last 14 seconds was poor. But I don't think that the mistakes or that the decisions were wildly, like incompetent by Ms. Johnson in terms of calling the time. I agree.

Or play call. Shit just happens. And it was just bang, bang plays. And the Wembe turnover was his fault. Like somebody has to take the blame. You threw the past, right? You mentioned that play angle from behind the basket that somebody recording their phone. He's looking at Castle.

Castle looking at him for a couple seconds when Wemby scans the court. Castle thinks he's not getting the ball. The second he turns around to look up field is exactly when Wemby throws it. That's just kind of unlucky. Then they happen to lock eyes at the exact wrong time. Also, too. Like, for me, personally, I give a majority of blame to Mitch. but even for Wimby, so he deserves a deserve to be literally through the ball.

But even if Castle did take that, Brunson is right there. He's going to get jammed up regardless and it's going to be some form of bang, bang, play at that point in time. And who knows it's going to happen. But Brunson is in prime position to make a play happen or take a charge potentially. Well, a lot of times whenever people are like that close and you turn up, they call, they call, they call a blocking foul, right? Because it's very hard, especially if you're Brunson and you're going, you're going downhill

to try and make a play, very rarely are you actually set and you're going to get the offensive foul call. So it's it's not it's not like oh that was that was bound to be a foul it just again like you said It's a miscommunication on their part and but like half a second too so like they need to be better there That's so bang bang that I'm like you're just unlucky like you guys we're looking then you're not like that sucks when be slow down like make sure in that moment That there's no room for unlucky make sure you slow down to make the safest pass possible I'll learn from that young player stuff plus unlucky is what it is final shot I'm fine with the look, they missed it. That's just the terror and agonizing pain of sports.

Sometimes it comes down to a couple plays and you're on the losing end. Kind of just unfortunate. It is what it is as far as the last few minutes go. Now we can talk about why they lost this game bigger picture things, though disappearing act of one being the first half, the continuing non-impact of Fox on much of this game, the crazy shooting that the next you're doing just being the better team all around. That's fine. There's plenty of reasons they can adjust and make sure that the better team going forward. But as far as the ending goes, I don't feel need to blame anybody other than just say sometimes tough outcomes happen. And this is also, I think we've waited and waited and waited and waited and the conference

finals happen and they get over the hump of OKC and it's like, okay. Like they clearly are ready to win a title. We can put all of the young team stuff to come to bed. Nope. You know, that stuff is here. And you've seen it over the first two games. I think with decision making, we just play down the stretch. even before that last 14 seconds where 1B has, you know, those mishaps, a minute and a half is left.

And he takes a step back through, airballs it, right? There's, we talked about in game one. He took the three in the corner, hit the top of the backboard. It's, it's been bad at the end of these games as well. And he looks tired. And I think that that's- He looks tired? My bad.

No, go ahead. I think there's two elements. You're right. He has not been good enough. He's been young, not ready for the moment. He's learned from it. He said the same thing, right? He said he needs to do better job coming off the high of the Western Conference Finals.

We got here, just a guy browsing says the biggest surprise he had is seeing when he gets slanted for the first time, such a golden boy. All of it's deserved. Everything you're saying is true. He needs to be better. Presumably he will be better in the future because of this moment, this assespelbin he's taking. I think that's true. But I also think on the other hand, everybody just defaults to clowning the stars doing bad.

Most of this to me is the Nix being fantastic and just like deserving all the praise in the world. You go on Twitter. You see people that are watching the finals. The main takeaway is why is you shooting so many jumpers? Go be shack, get down there and dunk like it's 2K and he can just like force it. He's 7'5. He's not the biggest guy. He's never going to be a guy

that just rim runs all the time and overpowers people. It's hard when they're loading up on the paint to do that. He's going to have to be a guy that shoots jumpers and that's his superpower. You can't contest those and then that opens things up. The Knicks are doing an amazing job by making it as hard as as possible. It truly is a team in the Knicks being perfectly

equipped to make a guy's weaknesses the worst they've ever been more so than Wembe just like forgetting how to play relative to last series. So both are true. No, Wembe deserves plenty of criticism. But I think people are like ignoring the fact that the Nix are forcing him into this. Yeah, I agree. And to add a third element to that is that I feel like overall there's so much more meat left on the bone when it comes to how the Spurs decide to attack the Nix, which I feel like they just straight up don't for real, you know. Of course, like Cadis Cat and he's been tremendous. He's been tremendous. He's been tremendous. There's nothing much that you can talk about there.

But there's been so many plays where I feel like they're just letting Brunson chill and relax and he's not evolved in many actions at all. There's been moments in here and here and there in this game too specifically, which they did a better job at. DeAnren Fox attacked him a couple of times. Same thing with Dylan Harper as well. They both had good games. DeAnon Fox had 20 points or whatever. But still, like Brunson is just super chilling for the most part. And this is the least involved that he's been.

defensively and a long time when it comes to these series. And part of that is the continuing fantastic job of Mike Brown who complete masterclass in every sense of coaching in this series so far. They've done a really good job implementing a system where every time Brunson's in the action, he's blitzing hard, attacking the ball handler, making things slow down, and he's done a great job at executing that. I think Brunson's done a fantastic job of doing what he can

to avoid being attacked and like flucking up these actions before they get going. But I agree. I think they need to run more of the three-guard lineup, so there's three guys that can attack him. When they did that in the second half, there was a few plays that you mentioned when Dylan Harper was able to isolate Brunson

and just kick his ass. That should happen more often. And I think the only way to do that is to not have quite as many like Champany and Kelton Johnson minutes when there's a guy out there that just can't do it when the ball swings to him. Those guys aren't going to abuse Jailen Brunson.

So I think more of the three-point card lineups is needed. And also they just need to make threes. Like that's a really big part of it is you can load up on Wembe and make Jalen Brunson come out and trap and get back and get into this frenzy because you know Kelden Johnson and all these other guys in the corner

aren't beating you. right now as shooters. If that's going to continue to happen, they're going to shoot 30% from three. It's just going to be incredibly hard for any of this to matter. You can't get Wemby going downhill. You can't get guards attacking Brunson

if you can't make them respect you as a spacer. I will say, the hater in me loves all of this. Yeah. I just feel like, you know, this first time I've struggled for real. You know what I'm saying? I need Wembe to go through

the growing pains that all of the all-time greats went through. And you're getting it. And for him to just shortcut everything. Ring year three. Come on, man. Yeah. Gotta struggle a little bit. And that's year three,

playoff run one. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Too good, man, too good. And you're getting it. Everything that's happening, like,

again, we said, okay, I guess the young team thing doesn't matter anymore, like you said, because they got past the thunder. Here it matters.

It's pretty much been that. And Webby's had his fair share of young superstar moments. It's really a supporting cast. They're making so many mistakes and the Knicks don't. Like at all. Like,

they've been so, so, so locked in all playoff run. They still are. We've really highly out of that with Kat, who's been like just a mistake machine his entire career even when he's playing well the fact that he eliminated all mistakes it's just a brilliant run from this team man they just are every every single

person is the best version of themselves right now and that's the like castle we're talking about mistakes yeah castle was very undisciplined as a as a defender in this game he's the he's really the only one who got into foul trouble and he had three three fouls in the first half fouled hosea Alvarado in the corner with 0.7 seconds left, Biden on his three-pointer. Like, there were a lot of, a lot of moments where he's just like, you know, you have to calm down four turnovers from him as well, four turnovers from, from Deera Fox also, also to Diera Fox. Listen, man, you stayed in the eyes of a killer.

You do that again. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Stand up to my point guard again. He's dropping 35. He's dropping 35. That was a fun moment, though. Yeah.

It's so fun because, like, bro, these. These guys don't have no real beef in the league. These guys don't families at all. I've never seen them in a real stuff for one. He was great family. Yeah. What? Yeah.

And it was like it was Brunton's instigator there. No, it was not. Well, I mean, like, yeah, it was physical. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it was not. Yes, it was.

As far as the staring contest goes, like, like, because Deere was physical. Because Deere was walked up. Sure, sure. But like, he was regular play. I got to play. I was like, yeah.

It was like a regularity to go. I was second 10, too. I was in front of my people like this. Like, The day was physical and like was around. The way that brunt his stop, it was like, hilarious. He just felt he just started staring contest. Like fair.

Like you said like he was physical walking up on him. This is my demon, man. Or a farming and it worked. I like it. Yeah, man. The shooting is much, much better on the Knicks. The star Big Man is playing and winning his matchup. We say much, much better than Wemby.

It's obviously like the expectations are swayed. But as far as like what you need in this matchup, Kat is far out playing Wembe for their roles, right? The mistake-free turnover machine battle of their two teams like weaknesses, way going the Knicks way. So if you're making better decisions, you're being coached better, you're shooting better, your star players are playing better. The Knicks have just started up in the better team in pretty much every way that matters.

Yeah. I'm curious. So like the two things that I want to see is one is like obviously is Jalen going to shoot better in game three. and just for the for the rest of the of the series like is that ever going to be something that that comes along to where you don't have to put as much pressure on mckell to to start the game eight of nine um glad you mentioned that that was crazy yeah like and he's he was locked in even if you watched like the the post game videos dude i've never seen anyone that locked in my life so so aggressive and everybody's talking about like he's getting yonest flashbacks like he's in this in this moment of going up two oh and obviously i feel extremely confident in the Knicks that they can, you know, win the series and they're not going to lose four out of the next five games. But it's still like the Spurs are still right there. And in this game, you're up 14 with a couple minutes to go. And my dad had texted me, like, the Knicks had scored, they scored some bucket and they went up 14.

And he was like, yeah, that's game. And I was like, it's really not. Like they have, they have an opportunity and the Spurs can come back. And so if you're a Spurs fan, you say we're right there in both of, in both. Both of those games, we have opportunities down the stretch to win these matchups. For the Knicks, obviously, it's the Jayland scoring. I want to see Josh Hart make a three because he's also, he has a hit a three this entire, this entire series.

He's been in foul trouble very, very early. Now, if you want to talk about things and something that, you know, doomed the Knicks last year and there's been points in this playoff wrong when people are like, we need less Josh Hart. That is a, is a interesting dynamic to see, like, where he's, playing. He only played 18 minutes in game two. I'm very curious to see how that goes in game three. And if you are able to get transition Josh Hart, if you're able to get him, you know, hitting a three at the end of the shot clock, all those, you know, peak Josh Hart moments.

And it seems like we're always due for one good shooting game. Maybe that's game three. I don't know. But the combination of the Jalen boost and everybody else shooting the way that they are OG being as physical and as aggressive driving to the rim as as he's been, I think game three should be a Knicks win, but also this is, this is the biggest game of in Nick's history. And yeah, the Knicks, like, franchise over the last 50 years. Like, you know, an opportunity to go up 3-0 in the, in the finals. Like, you feel like you've never been as close to a championship as you are right now. So tonight, really everything is on, is on the table.

And, like, if the spurs come out and they respond and they have a magnet ball game and then it's just like, okay, well, we're back to having a regular series. that's there. A Knicks blowout is there. A Knicks, you know, close win. Like everything is in front of us going into game three. And I have no idea what to expect. Yeah.

I mean, anything's possible. Series clearly isn't open, right? It's only two games you don't know for sure. Never, a team's never came back down to, when it was both the first two games at home. It does feel kind of like, as long as they take care of business and be regular, which they've shown no indication at all in this entire playoff run,

that they have a floor of selling games. they're as consistent as can be right now and just assuming they continue that even if it is a couple poor shooting nights but they make sure they play at the same level of discipline they've been playing at it feels hard to believe they lose a series at this point when literally has never happened before

there's two instances in which a team loses first two games at home both lost one got swept and that was the magic in 95 yeah they have to it's the fun part now is that you can basically have the reverse of what you ideally think is like all right let's go on the road and get a split and then come back home and defend

like this obviously you defend home court your champions if you get the split you're up 3-1 it's fine but like they are obviously in massive control but I oh man I I I'm happy obviously that they like won the first two games I just the Jaylen brets and shoot out just the shot just has to go down yeah because it is it is a little bit hard even to just think yeah they can win two more games with Jaylan shooting 34% from from the field you're going seven of 25, like, I am a little bit, like, I don't find a hard goal. Like, I'm gonna need one game. I know what you mean.

But what we just saw feels mad repeatable. Like, they clearly can. And none of that fell fluky. Frankie EY15 says, Don's team has more playoff wins in this streak than Isaac B. Sol's a most team combined. That's the biggest surprise to him. And man, is it a surprise.

It is surprising. It's surprising as hell. Yeah. And we're here. It's been, it's been like, been six weeks, I think, at this point. since they, somebody said the last, like the last time that they lost,

Fernando Mendoza was drafted first of all. That's crazy. We're at NFL draft time. We would talk about it every episode, but I've been 43 days. 43 days since the next loss. We really can't stop romanticizing this run and talking about just how special of a run this is.

Like, I cannot remember seeing this. I've seen people talk about other runs that are comparable. I've seen the 2011 Mavs being mentioned as a team that had Dirk as a superstar who had endured years of being called a playoff choker, people at that point of his career, thought he would never get it done, right?

They weren't the one seed expected to run through and dominate the playoffs. It kind of came to a surprise that they ended up being the best team. I think they were three seed that year? I think they were four. Four. So about the same as the Knicks, right? Were there a good playoff team that I'm sure in the moment, if you go look at a pattern ranking from the time was probably around the same place that we're all power

and ranking the Knicks, around the fifth, sixth, seventh best team in the world that has a chance to make a deep run, but we're not talking about them as a team that's going to beat the Thunder. That's going to beat the Spurs at the time, the Celtics, who we viewed as the best team Mount East, right? And to have this level of run, I guess it is like a 2011 Mavs run where they just lock in and become the best team in basketball

for the month that matters. It's truly remarkable. They seem a special man. It's so unusual. Yeah, I think that's the best word. Because even other crazier runs, it's like, wow, I can't believe that they hear. And we're really just talking about like series wins.

They don't lose anymore. Like at all. That's crazy. And that's the wildest part. about all of it. And so you're right. So the Mabs were the, they were the 3C that year.

Okay, yeah. But it's very similar, right? How many games they win that year? Like 57. Yeah, so they're a good team, but you had to crack 60 wins

to be a team that's like, oh, they're going to make, they're a contender, contender should win the championship. And what were the next side this year? Three C. But how many wins were they at? 52.

Yeah, I think 52. Yeah, so like that's similar, right? Yeah. To be this dominant. 53. Not just to make a run to the finals. And like,

we've seen unexpected champions. but to be this dominant, if they sweep the spurs and sweep three straight rounds. That would be crazy as fuck. Like that I've never seen that before my entire life. And the conversations we have

after a championship are always so like, oh, this team is here. They've ascended. They're going to go on this run. No one's saying that after the Knicks. And it's not because they can't, right? It's just that like,

this feels like such a singular moment in a way that I don't say to like discredit them and to be like, oh, they won't be back next year. I don't care if they're back next year. This feels so singular and so great.

so earned in all the years they endured this, similar to the Pacers last year where the core was together, they went on this crazy run, but it's even great in the Pacer because they don't lose games, like you said. It just feels so perfect, like I said, early in the episode,

cast lightning in a bottle moment, that nothing else matters to me about what comes after this. It just feels like such a special time in history. Because it's a surprise, but also everything has built up to this. Like James Dolan said, this team has to make the finals, right?

They've made the conference finals, last year and every single year that they've improved and improved in terms of how far they go in the playoffs, you make the cat trade and you instantly get, get expectations of making the finals. Boston has their year, Indiana has their year, and before the year, we had them in this position because you say, if not now, then win. And so everybody's been looking at the Knicks over the last 12, 12 months, 18 months saying right now is your time. And so that's why it does feel so singular because I think everybody recognizes this is the moment that we've been building up to

and now that you're actually here you have to go out and you have to finish the job. And they did. Yeah. A lot of people have moments where they build up to that and they get here and like now is your chance and we say that every year that like this is your moment, don't sell it.

They usually sell it. To become the best version of yourself in that time and to mix playing at your best and having the best opportunity in front of you, that's so rare that it works out in this way, that perfect alchemy of winning a title. Listen, man, I don't want to speak too ahead of ourselves. I feel like it probably is over the last time we've seen a team come back from 02 was, what, 2021?

Yeah. Yeah. And they didn't lose at home. Yeah. And well, yeah, exactly. You're right. You're right. And so I don't think it's completely over, over.

But also, it's just like, I don't know how. I truly don't want to believe and I will not believe that Jaylon Brunson is going to walk into the series, these next two games again, and shoot like 35% from the 3% from the 3%. few five or 20 type numbers and all i refuse to do that twice again i know he has at least one good somewhat efficient game in him and if he doesn't as well might not even matter because you got guys like landry shamit coming off the bench giving you consistent 13 14 points oh janer nob who's never shaken from anything car in the town as well right now and then mccall bridge is like riding at like at all time when it comes to his confidence it's it's tough it's gonna be one of the more most modern-day respected rings though you've seen in a long time and i hope they win like it's

such a good moment that like I'm so pro them getting this and having this moment in history for us to pinpoint and say like this is what every team that's perceivingly good not great in the regular season can pinpoint to that next year we look up and we say i'll just i'll use my team for example that oh the lakers their roster is so inconsistent can you win with a small back court like that that's not good defensively can you win with a big man that isn't a good rep protector sometimes shit clicks at the right time and those flaws don't become a thing anymore like you'll be able to look at all these mid-tier contenders and have this idea in your head now that like play your best basketball at the right time get the right injuries to the best team out west get the right matchups

where the team that beat the Celtics that we felt good about in the Sixers can't hang with you because cats are walking mismatch same thing with the spurs like things really can't break their way for a lot of teams they got to go out man they got they got they got to get tonight because in the back of my mind there still is like you know you're you're you're talking about oh you know Wemby, like, he has to go through his struggles and it's like, what if these first two games were? They're in the struggles? And now all of a sudden, this guy that we've been anointing has one of those moments and walks the Knicks down. Like, that's still in the back of my mind of like, like, if they get to three. If he has his game 6, 2012 LeBron moment in game three. And that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the scary part about all. Like, I literally. If he was two in the garden. That's tough. I won't feel good until the series is over because even if they win tonight,

Then it's like, oh my goodness, is Wembe going to be the first to the first to lead a team to come back from 03 and he does it in the finals against the Knicks? That's real stretch right there though. That's that's real fandom. It's like there's all of these things where on the other side, if you do recognize that Wembe is one of one of these players or is like on the trajectory, you do have to factor in just a little bit, whether the percentage is higher or not, that that is still on the table. And then considering how close these two games have been and like if Wembe makes that jump shot, we're 1-1 going back to New York and it's completely different. And we're talking about this series

in a completely different way. And so I hope they get it in today. Because it is going to be insane. I did want to bring this up because Mo and Donovan did bring up concerns about Jalen Brunson's efficiency. Joshua N29-194 says, too long.

The fact that Jalen Brunson has been so inefficient, but the Knicks are still up too well really goes to show that efficiency is overrated in the finals. especially for star players. I see people pull this out on Twitter because obviously Shade didn't have an efficiency series now Jalen Brunson.

Yeah, and they'd be winning even greater. It'd be even easier if Jalen Brunson made more shots. There's no scenario in which it doesn't matter how many shots you make. Just on a basis of just like, it's better to make more shots, like no matter what. Now is it the end-all be-all?

Is it the only thing that matters? No, especially when you have Kat playing better than Jalen Brunson. So the takeaway isn't that efficiency doesn't matter or that it's overrated or over-talked about. It literally can't be. There's no world in which being more productive with an opportunity doesn't matter as much as it should. It matters entirely. But it shows that if you have a well-rounded team, you can win in spite of it and you aren't so built on that.

There's worlds in which it's not the only thing. But no matter what, any basketball game, it will be better to make more shots and it will be important. Yeah. Like the whole efficiency thing to me is just an interesting talking point. It's not to end all, B. It doesn't make a race on this career or anything like that at all. It's just interesting. Like, Kat is wildly efficient right now.

And that's like a somewhat of a part of why he's being so good. But more so no one's talking about the efficiency. It's a playmaking shit that he's doing. It's a rebound. It's a defense and all. That's how effective he is when it comes to a straight line drives and shit like that. Officiencies, it's like it's cool. And it's an interesting caveat to a conversation.

But it's never like the focal point of a conversation at all. But like damn here it is though. Because like offensive rating is just efficiency essentially. And guess what? Brunson hasn't been efficient. Kat, OG, Mikhail and Shamit all have over 70% shooting right now. The team is wildly efficient. Just Brenton isn't.

So yes, Brunson hasn't been efficient. So you're, oh, clearly it doesn't matter. If everybody else is mad efficient, then it doesn't matter. It makes up for it. The team is itself is still very efficient. And you can wipe all that stuff away when you are hitting game-tying shots, game-winning shots. And for most stars, like, you will have those opportunities and you have to capitalize it on it. You have to capitalize on those moments.

But that's the only way. Because if the Knicks were down 02, right, if Jalen Brunson, if the flow that he hit, because all of these shots, shots are at the end of games are tough faders. I mean, he's taking a one-leg step back. And mind you, these are shots that he takes. He takes, he's taking a one-leg step back to tie the game in game two. It has a falling bank shot in game one. Those things go opposite ways. Now the Knicks are down to Jaylon Brunson is 34%. Everybody is talking about Jaylon Brunson. It's like, you can't win with a small guard. Becky Hammond is right. Like, this is what happened so like you have you have to capitalize on on your opportunities to make up for for bad

shooting but I promise you if you as jaden brunson he also wants to shoot better like like this is not the ideal situation and it is um like I so I think in this case like he's he's shooting a lot and so people are saying like oh you have to empty the clip like yes in a in a sense like I would rather him you know not shoot like five times and get scared to shoot like efficiently there but you do have to play better you'd have to shoot better especially when that is your main

that's your main superpower is scored and if anything I think it should to show us to like not make this so singular of an indictment on Jalen Brunson like it's like not to do the 2012 first take thing where we only focus on the star player he's not playing well

good thing four or five other guys are playing insanely well it's a team game and like that to me is more the takeaways that no it's overrated focusing on just star player efficiency and not team wide for sure I tweeted out the other day that the Spurs were going to turn Brunton into a Whopper. And then the whole entire time,

these next two games, I have Knicks fans in my meddle saying, Oh, would you say? Yeah, Nick's tape, bitch. I'm like, bro, I'm like, what do you mean? I never said the next thing that you never had no chance. I just said Brunton's going to be a Whopper. And he's been specifically that.

That's it. Yeah. But everybody else, those four players I mentioned with 70% shoot shooting, they've been flaming yon. So it's okay to have a longer. But you have lobster on next to him, it's completely okay. I like that. Shout out cat.

He's premium caviar. Yeah, man. What a team, man. What a moment. And like, even that. We didn't talk about that. Like, just to be everybody's shooting the shit out of the ball for four straight rounds. Like, all these things are going well for them.

That's just what championship runs are made of to get. It's not like luck. They're making the shots. But, like, to everyone to be that locked in, that on fire shooting wise for a month straight. Yeah. Crazy. Good for them. I want to.

The obviously best case scenario is a sweep. They went tonight. it would be crazy if they do the close out game next thing that they've been doing and they beat the spurs by like 35 in game four oh my god listen if they don't get a game i'm a listen you have it yeah you can say whatever you want the summer i could say a little bit the summer too i've got two games like i can't say a little bit so i'm on your side too my favorite tweets from this are people were like webby doesn't know he can't be the goat anymore he lost on the finals no he can't be the go because jordan never lost on the finals He should have lost to the Blazers. Maybe he could have been the goat still. Yeah. To staying on his legacy, he doesn't know it. That's funny as hell.

He's on that side alive still in NBA discourse. I need eight fritos from Brunton. I do think, like, him not getting to the frito line is something where it's like. What does his numbers look like from Frito? So, yes, he took five frithos in game, in game two, and he took four frithos in game one. He took two free throws. in the close-out game against Cleveland, but it's like he didn't play the fourth quarter.

And then game three, he had 12 free throws. But it hasn't been a, the last two rounds haven't been anything where he's super, super getting to the line. And I do think, you know, you talk about all the time, getting fruit throws, getting it into, like, your rhythm, seeing the ball go through the net. I would like that number to be just a little bit higher. So I do wonder if the physicality,

if that's something that's going to be called tighter, especially in reaction of everyone saying that game was too physical. There might be a way for him to have a better overall, like, efficient game scoring-wise by getting into the free-thro line tonight. I think you should hope it doesn't, though. I think you should hope to continue to allow everybody to get assaulted.

That's how the Knicks win. I mean, yeah, it's how the Knicks win like easily. Because for the Spurses, get back in the series, they need to be the ones to get the frito line. They need to be the ones that can get to the rim because they're shooting hasn't been good enough. Well, ideally, we can have it one-sided. Yeah, okay, sure.

Ideally, the garden wins out and the spurs just get fucked. Yeah. But yeah, that plays into the Knicks hands like perfectly Because they're gonna be the ones that win the finesse If the Spurs continue to be not get any free throws And Castle, Wemby all this stuff like Or not not get any but to have so much be allowed to get by without free throws I don't I don't know what to expect for them to get back in the series

Outside of Wemby figuring it out and just like Dominating all the game one against the Thunder But I don't see that happening because the next are doing such a good job And the shooting hasn't been good enough to make them pay I'm sure he'll have a good game at some point They'll probably win one at least but I don't know. You don't want to jinx it

because you're a Knicks fan and you care. I don't go a fucking wins. Feels like the Knicks have this and like I feel very I'd be very surprised

if they don't win at this point. You're right. I think they will win it'll come to that point but I don't know if they win tonight. Yeah, I don't know either. That's a dicey part

because literally like this is do or die for the Spurs and everyone knows it and I feel like that Spurs coaching staff will be good enough to realize that

bare minimum there's so much more again, offensively to eat on your plate and just not let Brunton have so much rest and whenever he's just chilling in the corner play those three guards more. Involved Dylan Harper way more and all that. Both the first two games though,

they've shown that mental resilience and made runs and made comebacks. They show that they get down in games when he goes to the sideline, they huddle up, puts his arms on his brothers and yells at him and says, where we didn't come this far just to lose, we got to lock in.

They lock in. They come out, they come back in the game. then they just get out executed with two minutes left. So I don't think they've been unresilience. I don't think they've not risen to the moment. It just hasn't mattered. And will they start mattering now? We'll see.

But if I'm a Knicks fan, I'm not worried at all. Aside of the normal jitters that come up being a fan and being so close and scared. But in practicality, I would not be worried if I was a Knicks fan. Bro, I'm not going to lie. A team known for blowing teams out and being like a team you don't want to go close with is insane. Yeah. They're just playing like that one of those teams right now For the singular year

It's gonna be so interesting talking about this Knicks team In the future because you can only talk about them In this context of this singular year That's like no one will ever Not no one will ever but when it comes to the Knicks I don't think this will ever be like repable again Considering how everyone's like just hot I wonder if that is the case though

Because it happened last year with the Pacers They just got to the last game of the season Injuries happened didn't come through in the last Kind of similar though in terms of like becoming insanely hot shooting, insanely well put together and resilient, like, insanely consistent to,

like, it kind of is a similar story. And obviously they're better because like the cat thing is like just insane level he's playing at so they're dominating these teams. And they've had some, I guess in the first last two rounds

a little bit easier matchups, at least for what makes them special than the Pacers did. So it looks, it's like to another degree, right? But I wonder if we just keep seeing this if this is just like one of those things with the state of league right now

that we're going to keep seeing these teams with the way teams are constructed right now just have these crazy runs from January 1st yeah that's what that's maybe not it's only two years in a row so maybe we can't draw any crazy conclusions but it is a very similar story two years in a row

Nick so good Chris says how did the spurs even make that's so crazy that's a fair part of online discourse too all of a sudden their fries the supporting cast sucks they well we didn't have enough help it is what it is all of a sudden this team shouldn't have even been here no brother nix is like that people

flip so fast. Yeah. Nix's like that and matchups happen. Everything's going towards the Nix way and all the X factors. People trying to get off on OKC now. So if the Nix are about to sweep the Spurs and the Spurs

went to 7 against the Thunder, what's that mean about the Thunder? See what I'm saying? I wonder how that seriously it went. I think at this point we had to say the Nix would also beat the Thunder because they were so depleted without J-Dub and Chet.

I meant my J-Dub and A-J that the Nix would probably beat the fuck out of them too. I don't know. I mean, Chad wasn't theory of this, so it's okay. But like, You think Chet would shrink against Kat? The way Cat's playing right now?

He would murder anything's on the table. No, he wouldn't shriek in the same way, but he's not their best player. So when Kat dominates or does well against Chet, it wouldn't be a like, oh, that's your chance. That there goes your chance of winning like it is against Wemby, you know? Because like they're not going to shut down SGA. So shutting down Chet, what the fuck does that mean? Yeah. Boxed, Jack.

You boxed him. Great. That wouldn't be the swing of the series in the same way it is for the spurs. Yeah. I don't know. I think, no. If okay, she was to face off against the Nix's just like completely different. Yeah, because SGA is going to make these guys pay.

He's going to make Brunson pay consistently. He's not going to dribble off his foot at the end of game one, build a ball and Stavon Castle's back in the game two. Miss over Robinson and the end of the game two. He's not going to put up like five points in the game like Daring, in game one. I guess it's a completely different story. Yeah.

With J-dub, everything changes. Then it's Thunder probably here. They're probably going back to back. But without J-dub, yeah. Nix would still probably be the favorites. That's, you can talk like that. It's fair. It's weird.

What a time. What a time. I'm nervous, though. You still feel like it's too good to be true? A little bit, yeah. You feel like you're just going to be on the back end of somebody else's history? Setting up to ultimate comeback to the next go? A little bit.

I feel like we're right there on that line. That's what's good for us is I either get to see a very easy to root for an awesome story in the Knicks and I can't be mad at it or I get to see history remade for that team getting their soul snatched by a victory. I'm having a good time regardless, man. up. Yeah. Right, wrong as far as our predictions go, I don't give a fuck. I'm going to enjoy the hell out of this. It's just so many demons that you have to.

I've never cared less about a prediction in my life. There's so many demons that you have to beat of like 50 years of this. Generational trauma? Yeah. It is. It takes a lot to break a generational curse. Timothy Shalameh and Fat Joe. Share one thing in common.

Yeah. That is Nick's job. Nick's fandom. It feels like, it feels like a sports movie, but like, I don't know if somebody's like, yeah, I don't know if this is just going to be. Who's writing it? Yeah. I don't know.

They wouldn't be very nix. Like it would be appropriate. It would make sense for the history if you go this far and this happens. We watching the spike lead joint? No, in the spike lead joint, they win. Yeah. But if they, yeah, if they lose this, I might die. I like, I actually don't know how I could like,

continue. That'd be very funny because like that would I guess that would be kind of like the NBA equivalent of like the Falcons blowing 20 to three in the fun in the Super Bowl. Yeah. To be on the receiving end of that. Yeah. You would never let that down ever. You might have to.

I can't. And what's unfortunate is I also wouldn't let you. Yeah. I'd make it worse. You might just have to. I'd make it a lot worse. Yeah. Like that you'd be cooked.

Yo man, they got they got to get this done. Yeah. They have to do it. I'd probably tell you. I'm so scared now. I'm so scared now. I'd probably tell you about it every day for like a year. I'm so scared now.

Going into like into game one, I was super, super nervous. And I was like, I was about to throw up watching game one. And then now, now even up to a like, it's not to a point where like I'm going to,

I'm going to throw up. But like even like my hands are just getting sweaty, just talking about games. It's the spurs come back and win. Those three pictures behind? you are going to be three separate pictures of Richard Wemondi. I'll kill you with our bad hands. Goodbye, Kambu, goodbye Bismo,

goodbye Doug Martin, three different designs of Richard Wemondi, all of which involving the finals and him beating the Knicks. Yes. Trade from the finals. That's what that risk for you. Bad. You're reminded every day forever.

You might have to move, man. That's what's on the line for you personally. Listen, if the Knicks lose this, we are going back remote. We're going back. He's going back to Texas, man. Before we wrap up those combos, let's look at a little bit more

of the fan submissions for the biggest surprises to them in this series. I'm for us. I guess we can say our big surprise while you find some good ones. It's cat, clearly. Like, it's, it's cat.

Like, it's surpassed him playing well. This is a different player and this is a legendary turnaround as a player. Like, not even just a defense, which a lot gets made of it, offensively, too. Like, this is so, clearly the most in control and smartest he's ever played.

And I like that everyone understands that. And there's not this like, some people are going to do this. There's no need to like rewrite what he has been in past years. Nobody was wrong for hitting on cat at any point in the past six years. From, from basketball perspective. Yes, yes, yes.

Yes. All the stuff about his personality and all the jokes we've made were obviously lame as fuck. But basketball wise, there was a million reasons to doubt cat. And that makes it better to me is that like for people to rewrite this and be like, I've been a cat guy. I've been telling you he could. do this is lame as fuck to me because that takes away the improvements he's made and like it's substantial the amount of work he's put in to become this best version himself and it's it does way

more good to him i think to acknowledge that than to say he's always done this and y'all were just hating yeah the only person who can get that off his aunt that's it at the end words yeah when they traded cat he was pretty mad yeah pretty vocal and it's very supportive of his team so yeah he's cool and even like it's not even a a straight like minnesota to new york switch that's happened because even last year in the playoffs there's so many times where like that the nix playoff uh the point differential last year it's like zero because they were they they were winning games by the thinness of margins and and doing doing all the like every single game was was coming down to the wire and so you had moments where cat was up and like the the clutch shooting

like he had a lot of moments you had a lot of other moments where he's getting beat on on on uh on back huts he's not being good on on on defensive of the side of the time you're not being good on on on The fouls are right there. And so I think even coming into this year, like the evolution of not knowing his role, being better as a defender, buying into what Mike Brown is talking about. All of those steps in this one year make all the stuff that we're talking about so, so special from him. And it is, it is one of the biggest 180s and one of the quickest 180s that I think we've ever seen. And at the weirdest time, year 11. I don't even know if it's necessarily like a quick 180.

We joked about making a year 11 leap. He did that shit. And he's here. And all regular season, we did talk about the fact that he's been defending better. But it was like every step of the way, it's like, yeah, but he's Kat. So, like, good job right now. We're in the playoffs. It just never stopped.

Yeah. Yeah. I think for me, like, seeing the turn slowly start to happen with Kat, tries back to his final years in Minnesota and seeing how he was able to, like, legitimately be a valuable piece defensively for Minnesota against Yolkins and all. them guys in back to back years now of course like things still eventually did happen because they face okay so which they always lose against or whatever but like seeing him be like really insulated into a specific role and him being able to buy in in such like an awkward time where he's

had years where like yeah when rudy robert first got there he was hurt and he had to be out and he showed up in the playoffs and things were walking because it was a whole new fit and he wasn't used to playing like the fucking four at all next two years come around he's He develops more passing and all these. He shows that a little bit more in display. And then he also learned some solid defensive philosophies and all that. He's somewhat able to be consistent into. It's trade to the Knicks.

Of course, the first year is the first year. Now you're two in this experiment and everything's working out. And you see all the high moments that he's had prior in Minnesota, really like shining out in this moment, but even better at this point in time. 2024, Westing conference finals, they lost to the Mavs. Ever they beat the Nuggets. He shot 37% from the field that series. Yeah.

Like, yeah, in the past years, the highs came, the lows came. Now we're getting just highs. Yeah. Good for him. Salute. All right, this is from Boat, 5, 64. Dylan Harper is about to take Fox's job a lot sooner than I thought. Damn!

Yeah, you're too. I mean, he's already been playing more consistently. And I don't know what to attribute to Fox's ankle. Because, like, that has to impact him somewhat as a, like, as a basketball player. It's been very. clear also. He's also moving not that terrible at times

like get into his spots just missing shots. So if it's just like really hurting his release on the jumpers getting up like I guess it's understandable but it's been we're kind of removed from that now. It's not like it's the next day

plenty of rest days in between and he's moving well getting to his spots like I don't know how much you attribute to that and what's fair and what's not what's too much cope but yeah all the conversations we had that he has to prove that he still needed on this team and that his contract makes sense. Tough.

Yeah and I think I mean even throughout the throughout the playoffs we came into playoffs or at least like I did with like DeR Fox has to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he should be the point guard next year. And he has to be

wildly outstanding because when you take a point guard number two overall, those are the expectations that he's going to be the star guard and is Dena Harper going to be too good to be Manu and willingly sit on the bench

for the next three years? Like I don't I don't know. And so throughout this run, I don't feel like Fox has been, you know, amazing to the point where you have to tell Dylan Harper, no, you can't do it. And now throughout these first two games, they've been better when Dylan Harper has been on the floor. Now, there are some things that Dylan Harper obviously can work on going into to year two in terms of being a like a pure, pure point guard and playmaking for other people and setting up the

offense and the three point shot and doing all those things. But when you have played as well as he has, you deserve the opportunity to try to do that. And so that's why I do think this job is probably taken. And going into next year, it feels like there's going to be already a timer on Darren Fox's time in San Antonio just because of how well and playoff proven Harper has been. And then you just roll with your trio of Harper Castle Wemby and see what that gets you. I'm happy you mentioned the playmaking stuff because that's the biggest difference maker from me when it comes to deciding if Dylan Harbour should be the starter next year or like just the main focus point when it comes to that guard room in general which he

maybe will already be that because he's already that good of a paint toucher and all that and how consistently he just gets his shots off but i think simple because the simple fact like denair fox is he is 28 years old like it's so crazy because i still feel like everyone talks about him like he's 33 32 like peak mic conno or whatever or just regular mic connoe or whatever Peak Mike Colley. He was tough, man. He was different. Don't get me back on those days, man.

But going back to Deere Fox, why are you looking like that? Do you not appreciate Peak Mike Only? I don't know if I appreciate those days. But yeah, my calling those tough Memphis Grizzies days? What? Oh, my God. We have this combo a lot.

You just like being 14. No. He loves 2012. No. I was 15. I like that. too. Maybe a little bit less than 13, but 15 was cool. But simple because of the play, making yourself, I do think Darren Fox has another year at least

because that's just things that is harder for someone like Dylan Harper and point guards in general to develop as time goes on. Yeah. Also like, wait, real quick, 2013, 2014, Mike Conley, 17th in MVP voting. Mm, got voting. Amen. Salutes. It's tough. That's tough. Mo was the vote.

It's up to balance. It's okay. have three good guards. Yeah. Like, they don't have to move him just for the sake of, like,

empowering Dylan Harper. Like, the spurs aren't worse for it if they just have all three in split minutes. If they were all making the same amount of money, yes.

But if you have some, I feel like it's hard for somebody to have the contract that Fox has and then for the next three years, you say, yeah, you're getting paid,

you know, $45, 50 million dollars. Here, you know, here's a bench roll for 27 minutes or night. It's certainly not ideal. But, like, I mean,

obviously, if they could trade that and get like, another big, a power forward, makes the team better, feel that whole, like, cool. But, like, if they can't, and they just have to, like, they split minutes and they just have this thing where Dylan Harper's maybe not putting up the best numbers he can,

if we know he could do a little more, okay. Like, assuming they can address the issues they have another way and, like, get a power forward, let's call it that, get some size things to Wembe, and keep Foxx's contract because the players around him are cheap and they haven't paid Wemby yet. Like, it's fine to have more good players, even if it feels like, I want to see Harper be empowered and do all these things. If he's getting a little bit less minutes at the sake of having to give Fox him because he's still there and you can't move him for great value, it's not the end of the world.

Yeah. Overall, I don't care about that because, like, the minutes will all add up the same at the end of the day. Like Harper's in the future. Continuously you get clutch minutes. He's going to be on the court at all times when it comes to, like, being there for the last two minutes, one minute the game or whatever. It doesn't matter for real. I understand the politics of it and all that. Fox might start, but at the end of the day, like as long as there.

The team is the worst part. It's just like if it feels like it's a waste of money that sucks that you've given that money, if it becomes a problem where they can't upgrade certain spots, then yeah, it's a big problem. But until we get to that point, because they can still make moves in summer and still like get better without having the offload fox. Yeah. So I'm not worried about it yet. It'll be probably in the coming years as they start paying guys. When it gets like the last two years I contract and they're already going to have to pay Wembee and stuff and Castle's coming up.

Then it's a big problem. But for next year specifically, I don't find it to be quite as panic inducing. The only reason why I kind of do is because they clearly, and maybe it is because they don't have a power forward to put next to Wemby, they clearly don't feel like they can play all three of them together. And so I think if you feel like you have the upside of playing those three where you can have some way to maximize them and you have Wemby and you have all these like, you know, these versatile guards. You have Harper Who can get downhill. You have Fox who's the Speed Demon Castle can do things on both sides of the ball. Then maybe it works out that way. But even as we're seeing now, when you're starting lineup is when being essentially like just wings, you do get into into moments where it is very small.

They play 20, those three together have played 22 minutes combined in the entire playoffs. So if because of that, that's why I'm looking at them and saying you don't think that you can do that. So that's probably why you do have to move Fox. And it would be ideal if they like I said, if they can swap them out. Like if they if they could swap cat, I mean, my bad, Fox for like Jaron Jackson overnight. Now he's not available, but that type of thing, fantastic. If they could recalibrate their roster and balance it and get another big wing or big next to Wemby instead of the three guards, fantastic. That would be so ideal to do that one for one.

So interesting, during the regular season, these guys, these three guards are only on the court for 20 minutes together and their plus minus is atrocious. Yeah. Well, because Harper wasn't this for the whole season too. True. He's really good going. He got better. He got better as a late. Now, can they do that more next year?

Maybe the really thing is is harper going to shoot better next year and be able to have better value offball. We'll see. But I'm kind of hopeful for that. Yeah. Maybe. But even with the like switching out Fox, like, okay, we're going to get ourselves a just one of the most like the one of the archetype that everybody in the league wants was just this this very like tall physical, powerful who can who can defend, you know, one through five and still space the floor a little bit. Like, and for in their defense, those guys make a lot of money. You can, you can do the swap.

The money might, might work, but you only make a couple of those. And there's, it's not like those, like that specific archetype is rampant. I had to call Houston this summer. They say we're going to do a sign and trade, which can you sign and trade if you're the rocket and attach another player with him or you can only send that one player. I'm not sure. I don't know. I'm imagining because Tar Easton's a free agent.

And I don't know if they're going to pay him. Tar Easton and Fed Van Fleet for Fox. Money wise is because Fox is going to be making like 55. attached 20 million contract to Tar Heeson plus Fremovili's contract Spurs used Fremant Elite and he expires goes away, yeah Tari Aeson get another big wing there I don't know if you can attach Frivent Fleet to a sign and trade though

so I don't know if that makes sense I don't think it's legal but if it did Maybe so something like that you think it's possible but they go out and break up his contract get two players and that aren't like stars but find a point guard needy team that is fine paying Fox I can see that still happening personally I think I'm just if the Spurs want to do that

I wouldn't hate something like that at all. But I feel like they'll be good right where they're at, because I think, I remember on draft night last year or was it two years ago now? No, it was last year. Draft night last year, I was so hell bent on Carter, right, and being on the Atlanta Hawks. And I wanted him so bad. So I think he's going to be good next year even better than what he is.

Offensively right now. Defensively, he's already solid. But I think the true answer for them might be just simply waiting, letting him grow and develop. Yeah. That makes sense. Can the Mavericks have Deer and Fox on their team? Sure.

I don't say the money to make it work, but yeah. I wouldn't want to like, yeah, I wouldn't want to like make any massive trade because they don't have any picks or anything like that for it to give up. So Carter Bryant is 6,6 and he's 20 years old. He's 6.6? Does he, that's what he's listed at? Yeah. Does he have another gross spurt in him?

Nope. To get to 6.9. Don't think so. I don't know. If people keep saying that's a big wing, that is a small forward, buddy. That is a perimeter defender. We do not need him to be in the second big next to get. Yeah, if he can, if he can, Carter Brian, if you can grow this off season, you can be the starting four.

We can, we can do that. I do look forward. I hope that he develops nicely if he comes to starting three. He just got to hang on pull up bars all summer. Extending that back. Let's get to the biggest news stories of this week. Let's move on from finals talk for today. One just broke while we're recording.

Well, I don't know if you saw this if you've been on your phone. Nope. The Atlanta Hawks and head coach Quinn Snyder have agreed to a. multi-year contract extension. Okay. I guess the optics of it could be fair. It is fair because he did do the unbeatable, which is take two win against the Knicks right now.

And I'm not going to lie. I've never seen another team go on such a run to where it benefits the losers so much up until this point. And now, Alon-a-sol also like he got promoted. He got promoted for it ahead in this front office too. so it makes sense give quinceider another shot you did nothing but i guess elevate this team continuously through all the moving parts through all the like trying young stuff through all the

like revams of this roster and all that it's fair i don't absolutely hate it man you got to be by 60 you can't come back and you were just talking about you think coincider sucks whatever you always think quinstein sucks as a way to defend researchet has nothing to receive we share not fuck listen Hey, Disney's sucker Is he suck or is it fair? I'm coping right now, man. Like, I'm going through like the stages of grief right now. This is your ideal coaching situation right now.

To have Quinn Snyder on the books for a couple more years. Not necessarily, but I think right now, if right now, I'd rather like, if I was, if I was there, I'd be like, yo, like, let's get one of these new young coaches. Let's get like some random 30, 33 year old. You know, let's do what the Orlando Magic did a couple weeks ago. that's how I prefer to do. But I think you still have to give Quinn Satter the opportunity because he did grow and develop this team, which is true. And he helped elevate Jones and all that and empowered all these guys. So it's fine.

I'm not, I'm not pissed. Do I love it, no? You seem kind of pissed. It's all right. He'd be fired. You know, if he has a discipline here, he can be fired. We don't see this shit like this happen all the time. It's fine.

It's whatever. Okay. Taking time, mom. firing a coach one year into the extension he's pissed he's seen it he did it's fine no it's not people lose their jobs every day it's funny yeah

the timber wolves have new jerseys they've unveiled them since we last recorded yes we talked about the rocket jersey mid episode last week it broke while we were in the air here we had the Timberwolves they're bringing back we've known they're doing this for a while now we get to see it bringing back their 90s look blue white and this black jersey

it's the same thing as the trees before but they added a blue layer around the collar to the trees, so it's a little more of a color pop, and the blue and white are essentially the same. They're not playing fair, man. This is tough as fuck. For part of me, wishes the black jersey was like almost exactly the same as before,

and they didn't add the blue to the rim, to the trim. But it's still cool, no problem at all. And blue and white is gorgeous. Top 15 jerseys in the league immediately. Yeah, they finally like elevated from the little MARTA bus ass jerseys that they used to have, man. These are what you call them?

Marda, it's like transportation in Atlanta. Yeah. Like, these are beautiful, bro. These are beautiful. Yeah, I love this. I saw somewhere, because I saw somebody saying that the Knicks should bring back a version. And they're saying, like, the NBA has a rule about bringing back exact uniforms. So you have to make slight changes.

So that's why also a lot of teams are making these style where they're just doing like slight tweaks to them. They keep changing the fonts and shit. Yeah. That's why. They keep making them a little fonts worse, though. Not in this. Not in this case. This is good.

But like the Rockies and the magic. Why can't they change the good fonts? Yeah. I'm not sure, but all of all three of these jerseys, I do think enter into top 20 talks of, of jerseys. And in terms of just complete packages, I think it's a top five package. I like that on this day,

Jamie Daniels did not bring a black shirt with him to wear on the right jersey. He just wore the white shirt and it makes it look worse. But if he wore the black shirt underneath, like he surely will in a game, that jersey would look so tough. You don't think they had a black shirt waiting for him? Maybe he's on purpose. But he's wearing the same accessories and shirt. He's working on the last.

left. So I'm thinking he just didn't have a black shirt. Yeah, maybe you wear the white shirt so that the full trim can get exposed. I'm thinking because he's also wearing the white headband. I can't imagine they do that in game. So I'm, because they were black jerse now and they always have black trim. So I'm thinking they just didn't bring a black shirt for him. And they just let it go. The only thing that bothers me, black shirt, white shirt don't matter.

Why is the shirt so loose? He just wears it. He rocks it like that entirely throughout his entire career. Yeah, that's his thing. I don't like it, man. I don't like it. Why? I don't hate it. Let it be fitted, man.

Nah It's okay He's clothes to be tight I mean Yeah, yeah I'm not saying that Yes you are Just more

Yes you are You want him to wear tight shirts Nah Nah I mean No yes Don't say nah You can defend the reasoning

But yes I want him to look more fitted That's all But that means tight shirts It makes it look It makes him look Even more like Skinnier than he is

It is not fitting So you want him to look Swole and wear tight shirts I want him to look better If you think him Look in soul is better Hey So you're

These are all based off the things that you say that you want him to do. You're trying to pin this on me. Y'all can't do that. It is on you. I don't care about a shirt. This is your suggestion. This is all on you. All I mentioned was.

So you're saying he's soft? Whoa. What? Jane of McDiams? Soft? Those words can never come on my mouth. I like this. They're ranging from hell.

Yes. Shout out. Shout out to them. I was very, very tired of the other, of the jersey that they had. I never, I never really liked them. I feel like I'm the only one on Earth

who didn't hate them. The last ones? Yeah, Timberwell's fans fucking hated them. I don't know why. Like, I'm glad they changed. These are cool. But I see so much vitriol for those jerseys. I've always been like,

yeah, clearly y'all are right. Everybody agrees with you. But they never bothered me. Nah. Also, people might get a little bit of, actually not. They're just,

they're bad. Yeah. Fair enough. Steph Curry is much more rich than he was two weeks ago. Steph Curry has left Under Armour we've known as a sneaker free agent for a while per shams.

Golden State Warrior star Steph Curry has signed a shoe endorsement contract with Chinese company Lee Ning, a landmark 10-year deal sources to LESPN. Lee Ning enters his Curry brand venture globally and encompasses basketball products, ath leisure, the ability for Curry

to sign athletes under his brand and a full golf line. Chinese got something to do with this? They do, they have to do with this. They were here. This meant they sign a I think it has reported that I don't know if it's speculation or like

unconfirmed reports. Someone was saying it's a $400 million deal. God damn. Yeah. God damn. Why would you sign a leaning? I don't know. $400 million.

I don't know. Pretty crazy. $40 million a year for 10 years. Yeah. That's crazy. And also apparently to they're giving him his own storefront as well. I don't know where the location is.

But him having just his own like curry store. Okay. Yeah. Nike's not doing that. for him. Fuck no. And no number wasn't either. Probably that was one of the holding points of why he wanted to leave.

He wanted to, I guess he wants to be Jordan and like be his own like brand brand for real. Yeah. Have some standalone, standalone power. Good for him. Welcome to the Chinese century NBA. I don't know what they're going to like how they're going to design his shoes. They don't make bad shoes at all.

No, the D-Wades are nice. Yeah. They always have been. Yeah. So I'm interested. I'm glad he went with leaning and not like anti or something. Like. Soiceless?

Yeah. Yeah. And it sucks. Is it anti-Chinese? I think so. I didn't know it. I'm not. I'm not.

I was watching all the Chinese. I don't know. I know it's depending on them. The funny's outcome of it is this like Japanese or people. That would be hilarious. Just as a similar. Let's check. And to sports equipment company.

Where is Anta from? Yeah, they're Chinese. Okay. The Chinese. There you go. Okay. Yeah. Thank goodness.

You good today. You should have lied to him. I'm like, They are from Seoul Korea. That's unfortunate for you. Yeah. Shout out Steph Curry. Get in the bag. What's up next week,

Souls? Next. Austin Reeves is reportedly seeking a max contract worth up to five years. And it's uncertain whether he would be willing to take a hometown discount. Per B.H. Hunter, who I think is the LA Times reporter? I believe so. So not a nobody, not somebody a completely yaps.

But at this point of the offseason, also find it kind of hard to believe that this is anything other than posturing. Like, yeah, of course they're going to start the negotiations by saying I want the maximum amount of money. There's no team the league that's going to give him that much money. But we'll see who becomes in the negotiation. That much, no. Like, there seems like I'll give him more. Like, if the Lakers are like only 35, some people give him 40 or something like that.

But what is that? That's almost 55? Or no, almost 50. So is that like, what's 11 over 4? 4.5. So that's like 47 and a half? Yeah. I don't know if he's getting that.

I think the bulls are off from 40 Nets will all from 40 He can I don't know I do feel like with the With the way that he played last year I don't think it's out the It's not the picture

And I do think that to Especially when you're signing for agents And you're like hey Leave Los Angeles Leave playing with Luca You will have to To put a little something extra To come to this team

If you're a bulls If you're a Nets that's That's giving him a deal like that Why would I want to actually go there When your team is not is not like that. And I'm like, I can have my own team and I can have an extra, you know,

X amount of millions of dollars. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely on the table. I wouldn't be that mad to Lakers gave them that. Like, I'll get over it. I think ideally and realistically, I think they'd probably give them 40, which some people want like 35 or whatever,

which that's ridiculous to me. When guys like Michael Porter Jr. make 40, like Boston Reeves deserves his 40-mills. 47. End of the day, that's 7.5 isn't going to be some crazy make-a-break thing, so I don't care of them much. But it definitely would be nice if it was closer to 40.

This is, I mean, he's a undrafted guy. Yeah, he shouldn't be taking a discount. I get your money. Yeah. At every step. Don't, don't ever. Don't ever take a pick up. And his last deal was like a four-year deal with mid-level exception.

Yeah, he got a bargand. He got finessed. And he was already proven to be a good player. The last thing. We don't talk about Rob Lincoln does good stuff. It's Austin Reeves. The last thing that that Austin Reeves and his camp should want is, coming out of this deal and this negotiations, everyone said, oh, that's a pretty good deal.

Yeah. That's the last thing. Make their pockets hurt. In one year, in one year, people should be saying, man, I don't know how that reads contract is going to age. I need you to be getting the bag. Get greedy. Wreck them.

Please. Run their pockets. All right. Next story. Kevin Durant was seen leaving Nobu Malibu with an unidentified woman. Really don't care about that part. The second part is Durant reportedly hid behind a book. Tov.

Like the Popper Watson. Taking pictures before they both got in the same car. You're the first sentence, who cares? He can talk to whoever he wants. Why is he hiding behind bushes? He'd think this fortnight. You are seven feet tall. His head's poking out the corner?

Yeah, let's fight. That's a big bush. For most people that works. Yeah. If you're six foot seven, you hide behind the bush just fine. Also. It's a tall-ass bush, though. It's a huge bush.

You're wearing a bright yellow beanie. At nighttime. I see you. He might as well just like put the beanie all the way down to hide his eyes. That would have been better, man. We know you're there, Ken. Hilarious hoops. Why is he hiding?

He's actually stayed in the car, man. There's so many moments where it's like, bro, KD, like, what's wrong with him? Like, he's this, he's that. And then we get to the off season, you get like one or two moments. You're like, he's just a funny guy. He's actually hilarious. Dude, I saw this one episode, this podcast clip where he was on, I think, Fred Van Leitz, show, whatever.

And he said, like, the most, I don't even know of like that could slide. He said that he sometimes, he just likes to stay in the house and, like, not take showers for like two, three days and just be there. Did they say that he enjoys his own filth? I'm like, wow, man. Like, that's, that's interesting. And you're to assume every day he's playing basketball a little bit. Say it?

And you have to assume he's, like, training every day playing a little bit of basketball. Yeah. And a little bit sweaty at least. Yeah. He said he just like to sit in there and not get haircuts or anything like that. No, use no loat sun. Just a gamer at heart. Stentious.

When Victor Momanyama hates soda and refuses to take Coca-Cola money, he has vowed to not do any brand deals with soda companies because he does not believe in selling poison to kids. How do we feel about this? Word. Amen. Elite potting. Killing kids. He doesn't want to kill the kids with Starry. Come on, man.

I mean, it's not his word. This is at Jared Weiss MBAs. I think it's like a counting of a conversation. He didn't say, I don't want to kill kids with someone. Yeah. Yeah. We, the only way to like, to honestly judge this, like, we just got to wait 10 years. Over the next 10 years, like, we'll see.

See what he stands on? Yeah. We will see what he actually, like, endorses and what he doesn't. I think it would be fun. I don't think he ever will be, but it will be funny. It ends up on, like, a Drag Kings ad or something like that. I would be, I would be so shocked that Wemby ever endorsed gambling. Yeah.

but yeah i you know what okay we see what you on vicar but why though like why is why soda the the line like well i'm sure a lot of other stuff is a line like he's not gonna do a gambling ad he's not gonna be up here with alcohol brand probably yeah but why soda on that line though like what like what are the other things on that line now yeah because sugar is very bad for you and like the amount of overconsumption in america is a problem but like it's not a problem most people care about. He can't be, he can't actually have no deal for specifically Sprite Zero or Diet Coke. That's kind of funny. You just endorse this

Coke Zero. Yeah, or. That's what I'm saying. This is where he's around this. Yeah. I would definitely endorse Starry. I would 100% endorse soda. So like, I wonder what, like, to your point, what else is he morally very standing on? It's just very funny because it's like, I'll never do gambling. I won't do alcohol. Soda. You know? And like, you can't be mad at it. Like, cool. That's your lying. Respect. It's just unusual to see someone stand on that.

Like alcohol and gambling, obviously understandable. A lot of people, that's above their line for them. Most people aren't willing to go that far for sugary drinks. Do you all think by association, like anything fast food is off the table now because of this? Maybe. That's my question for Victor Woman Yama. Yeah. How hard are you willing to stand on it?

Do you hate Chick-fil-A as well? Is he going to be against seed oils? I can see him being anti-seed oil. That would be so fucking funny. Meanwhile, it's like, more soda money for me. He's like, Sprite? I'm going to petty tomorrow. People are starting to turn on him saying he's performing him and stuff like this.

The hates finally starting to bubble up. Yeah. As it goes with every star, you get too likable. People are starting to be like, get a lot of this guy. Yeah, he got one more. He got not even a year. He got like seven, eight more. Man, he has four days.

If they get swept, if they get swept in the next two days, it's game, yeah, game three today, day off, game four, he's three days. if they go out like that, it's over. It's done. Getting us up is crazy. I don't think that can happen. But I didn't know they're going to be up to 12. If they get beat like that and he has one more moment where it's like it's a, it's a tough type of moment.

It's done. Yeah. Yeah. Next thing we're going to do. We are going to play the viral game you've seen all over your Twitter feed, all over your Instagram probably all across the internet. If you're an NBA fan, we are going to play 82.10. We're going to have a 15 minute timer. And we are going to see if.

In that 15 minutes, we can build an 82-0 team. Okay. Let's do it. So you guys are to do classic mode or hoop IQ? Let's you do classic. Weak. It's fine. It's just too classic.

I'm crying. How have y'all? Y'all been playing hoop IQ? It doesn't make a difference for real because I know the rosters. It doesn't really matter. Yeah. You usually like click Q by Q. it doesn't make a big difference unless you aren't familiar with every team.

It's too quasi. It doesn't like. No, they're going to play much. Let's do look like you. Whatever. So 15 minutes, see if we go 82 and O. If you guys don't know how this works, we spin a wheel. It's kind of like what we do, but this one has a team and an era.

So we'll get a decade to choose which version of a player we want. Build a team, starting five. See if that team is deemed 82 and O by their algorithm, which is very stingy with the 82 and O monikers. Okay, let's do it. So starting it now, first spin, hit at B-Soles. 15 minutes begins now For Wemby Chicago 2000

Fuck That's a tough one We're not going to be to know This team Unless we want to reset By the team in era Yeah You have two lifelines

Oh you get two lifelines I didn't even realize I never used that So we could reset the team I think And stay Or reset the era of the year And maybe we'll get lucky

And land on MJ Sure You love our lifelines All right Let's do the era Please Chicago 2020 Even worse

Yeah Fuck, that's our first lifeline. Yeah, we were cucked. I just say it like that. Fuck, man. You want you to just have a lifeline? You sound like a Muppet. Another one?

Fuck it. Yeah, let's go ahead and switch up the T. Life light lights, what's up? Fah. No, in 2020s. We get Joe L.M.B. All right. We'll live.

We can work with that. I appreciate you, like, need Walt Chamberlain. Yeah, exactly. You need Chamberlain or Jordan, I think. Yeah, so maybe we get Jordan. That's cool. Okay. But we have no more lifelines.

That's fine. fun. Yes. Perfect. LeBron James. There we go. Perfect. What do you?

I want to put him. It doesn't matter. Five positions. It doesn't matter. Five positions. We can move. That is glazed. That is.

That is. That is. That is. Yeah. Okay. The five of D. Okay. We're cooking so far.

Next up. Phoenix in the 60s. I can't see the names. I can't see. Gilgudridge is probably the only one. Yeah. In the 60s. All there's people like Chambers and stuff

was the 70s. I don't know how how good, which was there. Let's go, we get him. Gail Good, Richard our shooting guard.

I don't know how good is Phoenix years were relative to the Lakers years. At point guard. Oh, yeah. Zoom back out. We're waiting for Mike.

Cleveland in the 70s. Yeah, this team is not going 82 and 0 whatsoever. At this point, listen, Bingo Smith is a crazy name. Bingo Smith.

It's big Bingo Smith. Just get to the next. Just get to the next. Yeah, this team is not going to 82 and O. So yeah, at this point we're going to maximize time. You only got 15 minutes.

90s Boston. Yeah, just pick somebody. 64 and 18 Wait, wait, wait, scroll down Maybe Bingo Smith was like Bingo Smith. All right

We didn't really care about the last two pigs Up first, Miami in the 80s This is one of the worst spins I'm not going to lie The top score is like a 13 point for game score Do we want to use

A respite? Yes, yes. You cannot have any bones You want to age or no We have to use a respite if we know there's nobody great Sacramento in the 80s Wait, wait, time easier

It's tiny year? Not in the 80s? way before the 80s. Titans played way before the 80s. Yeah, I guess so. Okay. Fuck. Sacramento.

Second time. We're gonna, we shouldn't have respawn that. Oh, no. In the 20s. Come on, man. The Air and Fox it is. Right? Yeah.

We. Or some bonus. Sure. By and Fox. This team is not going 8-2 and O. Yeah, we lost already. You just, you literally cannot have any weak points to go 8-2-0. Get so many.

Oh, yeah. It's box. Broken as 80s. It's box. It doesn't matter. Do you even want to go or just reset? Just go We need to save as much time as possible

You must have refreshed This one's good We got the same time Okay All right, come on How many minutes we got left? 11 minutes left All right we can do it

Milwaukee in the 90s Were you? Was he drafted in late 90s? Yeah, I think yeah he was He was He was in 96 Yeah he was 96 Yeah he's 96

That's decent All right Come on Please please please Houston in the 80s There we go Hakeem Elijah won at center Hakeem Moses was here too

I assume Hakeem is the better pick here right Or is Moses in the 80s Better I think Moses in the 80s Was in the 80s was better I think I can't remember Because it doesn't really because of numbers And Moses probably did have better season

Because the king are going in the 90s Let's go to let's go Hakem though Okay It's either Hakeem or Ralph Samson But I will go Hakeem Okay X-Bin Come on

Cleveland in the 2020s Cleveland in the 2020s So we don't We'll get LeBron and O'Ekeye. I guess we go Donovan Mitchell? Oh, I guess. Wait,

do you want to re-spin for the era? So we can give us chances. Try you get 20-10s? Yeah, 2010s or 2000s, we can, like, get LeBron potentially. Sure, let's go.

Let's hit our one lifeline. Yeah. Prayer for LeBron. Come on. There you go. There we go. Bron James. Welcome to the team,

Brian. All right. All right. Hold on. We have a chance. For what? The 82-0? Come on.

Hell yes. Hell yes. 90s. Hell yes. Let's go get Tim Duncan. Yes, give me TD. Because can you put Dave Robinson at PowerFord? I don't know.

Let's get Tim Duncan in regards, I think. And I think you can only put Robinson at the five. Yeah. Okay, point guards all we have left. We're tracking. Milwaukee in the 2000. Still have one lifeline? Hit our lifeline.

Change our team. Take a 2000's point guard. Yeah. Last lifeline. Come on. You have to change it. Give us a legend. This could work.

Cleveland. Cleveland 2000. Wow. Could technically have a run if they allowed repeats. But no. Well, we can move that LeBron to point guard, can we? Yeah, we can. You can.

Oh, you can? You can move? Yeah. You can move? What the thing? Only LeBron or guys you can play multiple positions. Okay. So we can pull LeBron and point guard because we're probably better off the Cleveland wing.

All right. Go to the forwards then. Who do you want though? Honestly, LeBron. Dary's Miles, welcome to the team. No, God, no, man. J.J. Hickson?

Playing the three. It's cooked. No. Larry Hughes. We're cooked. Yeah, Larry Hughes is the right pick, I guess. Put Larry there. Larry Hughes at our small four, that's the pick

64 and 18. But don't get LeBron in the key That's stingy I know we had a couple weeks spots But only 64 Ray on there too, what the fuck Larry Hughes cooked us They're stingy as hell

The wins All right All right next up Clippers in the 80s That is a terrible era In the 80s What's the name? Macadone 80s

Or is that the 70s? This might be the World Be Free Team We'll be free team We'll be free You can be a pick Is it Macadoo Or check Macadoo first We see there in the 80s

He wasn't Okay so do we'll be free Yeah Okay Yeah, we'll be free That's not a terrible start All right We have to get Wilp man

Memphis 2020 Fuck bro This is tough Jaron Jackson So got two lifelines Is Jerry Jackson Getting us to 82 and O Fuck no

We got to spend this There's no chance If we have Jared Jackson I would say we spend the team There's a lot of plays in the 20s Yeah I can't do the era

Phoenix in 2020s. Okay, Kevin DeWan. We can work for Kevin Durant. Yep. We'll be freeing Kevin Durant. It's like Kyrie and Kevin Durant. We're there. Okay.

Here we go. Good start. Jordan. Detroit 60s. Detroit 60s. Okay. I'm not going to lie. That's a lot in my knowledge.

Yeah, who's here? It's a lot of everybody's knowledge. The 60s and stuff. Who's here? Do we spend the year? We can try. Yeah, this is our, usually I find our first one.

Yeah, they have a couple errors. So I think the, yeah, try to get one of the championship players. Yeah We got to get Dumars 90s Okay

Can we'll be free play shooting guard Yes Isaiah Thomas Yeah Do do Mar's there too Yeah Hell yeah I assume Isaiah Thomas is the right pick

That was towards the end though He wasn't still great The early 90s He had gotten hurt pretty early I think he got hurt early He'd never season like Does it go off their averages For the decade

Or like their best year Averages for the decade I'm pretty sure Ah shit Damn Because I can't remember I can't remember when he got, like, hitting the eye. But, mate, let's just pick Isaiah Thomas.

Yeah, just pick Isaiah Thomas. How much time we all left? Needle four and a five. We have seven minutes left. San Antonio Spurs 2010. Hell yeah. Give me Kauai, probably. Kauai too.

But give me, yeah, I think Kauai. Yeah, we got to go Kauai. Can we can power forward or KD can't. So yeah. It doesn't matter. Okay. Cool. All right, center.

Will Chamberlain. This could be a great team. Give us Wilt. Phoenix in the 60s again. And we can only re-spin the team. team can we we we we we'll play in the 60s right not just 70s yeah yeah he did don't got any re-spins though oh we don't have the year left i mean the team left no all right jim fox welcome to the team fuck let's hit another one this is our worst team too fuck damn okay try again

detroit they love giving us detroit thomas again not bad we we can do worse we can live with isaiah thomas starting this team okay but some of the some of these other picks are just not Change the team. Change the team. Fucking Charlotte. If you get some of these teams, you're just screwed.

Bro, even like the all-time versions of these teams, I don't want. We can put West Unseld. Is he better than West Unseld stats-wise?

Because this is just goes off stats. I think we'll go West. Just put Unseld on our power forward. I don't like the way 3. 5. Oh, 5. It's fine.

I don't like the way that this is shaping up. Yep, yeah. I mean, it's an MVP. West Unseld. One of the least statistically impressive MVP's. Okay. Philly 2010s.

Philly 2010s. Will we take him Ben Simmons? I guess if they can be still. Like, oh, can't be can't play powerful. Can't he? No, he can't. Oh, that's tough. Ben Simmons, it is.

Damn, you unsold. Wait. Jimmy Butler. Is Jimmy Bowyer? Jimmy should be. Yeah, let's go Jimmy Butler. Okay. Man, we haven't got a run even close to 82 and O.

We've got a very unlucky spins. Okay. Nothing in the 70s yet. L.A. Clippers. Oh, my God. Hey, we start the game. We start the game. That's ultimate.

We're at five minutes and 36 seconds up. Yes, let's start the game. At this point, if we don't get a solid two, we'll restart. Philly 60s. Hell yeah. Oh, Will Chamberlain. We're here. This is all we need.

082 and O. Come on. This game is Will Chamberlain. It was the game of destiny right here. Milwaukee 60. Oh. It was the 70s. Oh.

No. We can still re-spin. 60s are a cheat code in this game. We could pray for Janus. Pray for Janus. If we go to 60s, try to pray for the Celtics or Lakers. I think the era might be Because we can either get Janice or Karin

Can Karin play PowerFi? I don't think he can't No, you can't Yeah, I don't think we're only gonna get 2010 to 2020s I think we stick to 60s I think we're 60s Come on, come on, give us Celtics

Atlanta, Bob Pittett. Okay, okay We can pick Bob Pittett, he can play Power Ford, right? Yes, yes, we're cooking. Will and Bob Bennett to start? Okay, this is the run. Here we go, here we go, come on. Three more.

New York New York. Hey, Walt. Wall at point guard. Why point guard? Okay. Hold on. Hold on.

We're cooking. Hold on. So far we're cooking. Give us two wings that put up numbers. Give us Bron and Jordan. Milwaukee 70s. Damn.

No. We got a re-spin. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, no. He can't play, you can't play Senate? Can Walt play shooting guard? Can we put Oscar Robinson on the team?

Let's see. Can we move Walt to the shooting guard? We cannot. Fuck. We can't. You landed Karim and Oscar, but we can't pick him. I think we have to do another gamble again. We might have to respend.

The Knicks don't have other airs like that. They're going to have all-timers. The bucks, we ought to respend for Janus. We have to try again. Yeah, either 2010s or 20s. Unfortunately. But we can't put Janus on small forward. Yes, we can.

We can't. Oh, we can? Yes. Let's go. 20-10s we got Yonis. Okay, thank God. Oh, my God. Let's go.

This is crazy. Yo, this is going to be it. All one spot left. Jordan. Jordan. Jordan is easy 82 and Boston 70s Okay

Yeah Guys here not We put in Georgia Havichick But he's watched at this point Isn't he? Ooh, man Are we taking

Are we taking Havlichick Probably is the best I think Havichick sells us to A2 though If we go Havichick We can be a decent team But I don't think Go 82 and O

Havlichick We're out of lifelich Oh, we are Yeah So we have to go Havlich Damn Okay John Havich at shooting guard

Oh 80 and 2 I told you I had the check was gonna sell us We were so close We had no one else Man

That was our best shot If we had 20-20s We would have got it Yeah Damn So close Do we have time for one more Yes we have two minutes

And 54 seconds left One more We're not gonna do better than that though We had wilt Let's try it again Never know Toronto Two thousands

Fogg Hey man restart Thank you That's year Restart Restart Restart Restart

Speed it up Oh my God Hell Clicker First team up Phoenix to 2000 Steve Nash Steve Nash Yes yes

Not a best start Okay Can work with that Please Come on Come on team number two Well Lakers in the 2010

Kobe Kobe There's over Lebron Covue Lebron Bron Bron only has couple seasons So the numbers are really good There's no down years

Yeah Let Bron Yeah Lebron for sure Lebron Play anywhere He's a T-Coldier. Small four is fine for now. Oh, there.

Yeah, because again, we're getting, we're getting Jordan this time. Milwaukee's 2020s? Yonis. Oh, yeah. Three MVP so far? Okay. MVP so far.

Okay. MVP. Yeah. Yeah. My MVP year. Phoenix again. We still have a life lines. What is this?

Phoenix again? 2000. 2000s. 2000s. I feel like we have to re-spin here. Yeah. Respend Phoenix. New team.

Do a new team for this one. Oof. Okay. Houston 2000 Tracy Tracy and Yao Ming Tracy Tracy probably

have better numbers with the Texas He might be We have a center Or a shooting guard I don't think we should go Yao Yeah let's go TMAC Yeah

Team Mac's probably the pick here Yeah Houston Team Mac had one really Wash year there That hurts his numbers But he had Four All-Star seasons there

Yeah If we re-spend the arrow We can get Hakim Malone Even Hardin at the two You're right. There is no losing. I think we should we spend the era.

You're right. All right. We spend the era. Good call. Good strats. 2010s. Okay. There we go.

Hell yeah. W. Stratz. Compy strats. Now we just need wilt. Okay. Will we're good. Will.

We'll. This is the worst possible pick ever. Wait, can we re-spend the team or not? Chris Weber? We're out. Yeah, we're out. We lost. Yeah.

We lost. Hey, Chris Weber did. 70-75. That's so long. For us, man. Damn. Where we're sold. 41 seconds left.

Go fast. Come on. One more, one more. 41 seconds. We'll go over a little bit. 2010. Okay. And B.

Okay. Let's go. That has to be a worst player, though. Okay. Come on. Can M. She our worst player? Portland in the 70s.

Can Walton play Powerboard? No. Damn it. Oh, fuck. Respir the team, I guess. Okay. For the love of God, please. Milwaukee 70.

Milwaukee 70s. No. No. We can get Oscar, we can get Oscar. Oh, Oscar, okay, okay, okay. Oscar, there we go. Saved us. How much time we got left?

Fuck. This is the last run. Milwaukee in the 80s. Okay. Hey, we spin the team, I guess. We can do era. You don't do error. I guess we have to, yeah.

We try to get Janus. 2010. Okay, Janus is a power forward. We got the lesser version of Mbita and Janus. Yeah. 20-20s we'd be cooking right now. Let's go. Are we out of lifelines too?

Yep Atlanta 2010 talks Fuck man Joe Johnson Welcome to the team No not even Who Oh he was

Yeah Joe Johnson Yeah it is Like Oh 11 and 12 Yeah And we get Lebron Okay

Clean in 2000s Lebron Jay It's not happening Yeah 63 is disrespectful Come on man That's ridiculous It's not happening

All right that was 15 minutes Best we did was 80 and 2 Hey In 15 minutes That's not bad I spent hours on that game. 80 and 2 is the best I've gotten too. Is that the best I've gone?

I have like screens off the line. I think I got 80 and 2. Yeah. Yeah. John Havlett. Yeah, I got 80 and 2. That's the best one I've gone to. Oh, I got 81 and 1 actually.

I had Kyrie LeBron, Bernard King, Yonis, and Wilt. Kyrie fucked you? Yeah. God damn, Kyrie. 20-10 is Kyrie. God damn, Kyrie. Fuck. Next thing we're going to do today to wrap up this episode,

We are going to see an NBA team logo With one color missing And we have to try to spin a color wheel And decide what we think is the exact match To make that logo look as it should We're gonna take turns one by one We had his mouse here Beas supposed to pull it up

And yeah we have to match the color on there So right now it's the purple in the Lakers All right, let's go All right, let's go So I got the mouse Okay, it's hard to see from this With the screen recording So okay so obviously it's purple

About here It's a darker purple Yeah hell. But how dark? How bright does it get? It's like around here? That looks decent.

Nah, I think it's a little lighter. Lighter? I think so. Okay, so we're looking at. That looks more real. No, it's too bright. It's too bright.

Okay, that's how it looked like the 80s. It was low. I go there, go there. Right here? Yeah. Okay. And when we submit, we're going to see a percentage

that we're close by. Submit 49% way off. Way off. Way off. Too light. It wasn't too light. It was harsh. It wasn't too light.

Yeah, I knew it was too light. It was definitely darker. So, Mo, your turn now. Starting off, this easy. You can just get the red on the bulls. That's so easy. Yeah, I get the red, but I don't know. Red is, there's like a lot of variance to red.

I'm pretty sure it's just max saturation to do the top right, isn't it? Is it just like the reddest red possible? It's some of the, like, brightest red that is. I've never seen a bright of red in my life. Okay. Like, just max red. Yeah, that's just red. Yeah, I think you're right.

Is it a little bit darker? I don't know. I did a little bit darker. I'm like, not that doesn't look right. Look. It's just pure red. Look at that. That looks a little bit...

Wait, hold on, man. Actually, kind of cooking. Yeah, hold on, man. Hold on, is it not pure red? Let's see. Is there specific bulls red? There could be. Maybe.

Is it like a blood red? It's a little bit darker? I think that's too dark. You think so? I think so. I think we need to get a little brighter. Let me get a little brighter. Okay.

Yeah, I think that's about it. Okay. Kind of calling my shot. 66%. Okay. It was darker? No, it was like a little paler. Wait, is it little pinker?

Yeah, that seems like, like one of the older logos though. Yeah, it does. You should be all current. Fuck, man. All right. All right. Let me try. Fuck. It takes six percent. Not bad. You got to get higher. We're getting better at this game. This is terrible.

Oh my God. Use your leg. What are you doing? I was trying to fight a hard surface. He's lost the mouse. Hold on. Let me bring it back. There you go. Thank you. Boston Celtics. old logo. I'm done making fun

to be souls. Yeah, you understand it now. Trackpad is crazy. All right. Old Boston Celtics. This one's tough. Oh,

the old Celtics logo. Fuck. Harder. You got to get a nice green. You're a nice green. You're fucked per minute. Ridiculous. Yeah.

We got to go. Fux per game. It's outrageous. Oh, hold on. That looks about right. Yeah, because it wasn't like it's not very, very like green. It's not like emerald.

It's not like a Kelly green. That feels too like vibrant though. That feels kind of Kelly green. So should we go darker or a little bit

like... Hey man, you're around. You tell me. Ooh, yeah, the darker, less saturated looks

about right. Because it's like a 60s logo, isn't it? Yeah. Maybe. Nah, that's a little bit too dark.

They didn't discover color until like 19702. I feel like right here. That feels right. That was good. I'm gonna just go here. 64%.

Damn. Is it left one or the right one? The actual one is the left one. Oh, the left one. Yeah. Okay, so you should have went a little darker, a little more forest green. Yeah.

All right. Damn. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, I got the sun. This feels. Yeah, this one's tough.

This is kind of hard. Yeah. This should turn off. This should stop working. That'd be so funny. It's frozen. It's not moving? No, it's not.

Yeah. You threw it to me and that bitch broke. What the hell? Click it. I'm clicking. Yeah. Damn. My bad.

The battery's going out. Yeah, just both it was. Oh, there goes. I thought to take the battery, I put it back in. There we go. All right, there you go. Okay, so this one's kind of tough. This is hard as fuck.

You have to match that orange? Yeah, it's definitely. Oh, yeah, this is tough. Oh, wait, it's glitching. You know me an edge of orange. What? What is going on? This one's kind of easy because it's showing me that orange at there.

You know what I'm saying? Let's go next round. This one's, you know, I can see I can just match the orange. Match it then. Okay. So it's a little redder, right? Take all the points you can get. I think it's a little bit more towards red

There you go I lost it where there's that okay See it's not super easy I'll be cooked on this round I'm not gonna lie If you actually don't get 100% Well I can't the TV's kind of far away It's actually a stain on your legacy

If you don't get this Damn 47% That's actually the lowest that we've got That it wasn't match He said let's get me Hit the next one You know what it was That little shadow I saw

It was a shadow It was the whole bar I thought it was glitched Bipoxed Get on. I thought it was a glitch. Because she's coming. It was just a shadow.

You were getting cugs, fuck. Get graphic design. I just attempted the wrong thing entirely. I was color matching where I should not color match. So I was like, what are you trying to comment? I thought it was an old logo. I don't know. I didn't even think because obviously there's never been a logo that ugly ass brown.

It's like dull ass. I didn't even think. I was like, oh, glitch. Let's just get it over with. Didn't even think. We go again. Oh my gosh. Hornets.

That actually seems pretty close. Yeah, that looked perfect. Yeah, that was that too bright, though? We keep thinking it's perfect and it's like too bright. Do you think it's a little duller? I mean, honestly, from that logic, I guess so, but. Is it like that right? No, I go darker.

Darker, okay. Yeah. You know what? Darker. Nah, don't let them cook you. Every time we keep saying this, it is darker than what we think. Yeah, this is tough. It's true.

It's very big like Mandela effect over here. Yeah, it's really hard. Does that look right to you? Maybe. I see now. It's brighter? No. No, that's too bright.

That's too bright. It's too bright. It's too bright. Okay. Yeah. I hear? I feel like one. 70%.

There we go. There you go. Okay. Good we're done. See, so that's the thing. We need to make it darker than what we think it is. Yeah. It's always darker.

Yeah. Noted. Always darker. Okay. Okay. 70%. Can I aim higher than that.

Oh, yellow. You're not getting this. Yeah, yellow is tough. Yellow is incredibly tough. I'm not going to get this. I don't believe so. I actually like this yellow. Oh, that looks pretty good already.

But that's B4B59. That's my favorite yellow. But is that too dark? It looks like kind of. Yeah, it's very, it's very like a poopy yellow though. Yeah. I was say it's too green. That's where you're saying poopy.

Yeah. The green shade is too green. I feel like it's more, it teaches more into like the yellow orange. That looks right to me. That is not correct. Yeah, but it always does. That is not correct. Yeah, but it always does, so I can't tell. Can I go? Because that's a yellow green. You're right, yeah, it's more red.

Yeah, it's more orangey red. You got to go up the spectrum. Okay, that feels nice. Yeah, yeah, that orangey, you're right. Okay. That golden rod. Me, let me toy this down a little Don't look at me over golden rod.

Crazy as a reach I've ever seen. Okay, this was right. I didn't look. Can I get over 70%? Damn it. 64. So once again, it need to be darker. Yeah, fuck.

It's a crayon, okay? It's kind of crazy. I don't know what I'm going to do here. I think you're trying to find the cream, right? Yeah, it's the outline. What? Hold, that look would be kind of tough if it was, if it was light green like that on the outside?

That would be it. That'd be a cool logo. Yeah, you got to find the cream. So go towards, go to orange. Your box. He's in green. Go to orange. Yeah, not ready.

Yeah, you got to start an orange. Oh, man. Yeah, I'm not, I'm happy. I don't have this one. All right. Let's keep going. Maybe here? No, darker.

More, more cream, more pronounced. So, like, more top right. Yeah. Well, yeah, more up into the right, a little more warm. Yeah, I'm like you never seen cream before. as far as a cream novice no this is too much that's way too orange yeah

this way too much we could dial it back just a little bit more to do this seems decent that's solid yeah that's solid we'll drop it down just a little bit because we always think that might be the perfect amount of cream I like that I see now

let's go up for it okay you might have nailed the perfect cream okay all right you might be a cream expert if you get over 75% right here you are the cream E6 DBC5 This guy's a cream bottle. Come through for me. Come on.

Eighty-nine! He's a creature! Oh, my goodness. See your own cream. Professor Cream. He invented cream. Oh, my goodness. You got the new cream cow.

Congrats. Damn. That's impressive. Eighty-nine is crazy. Yeah, fuck. Elite eye. See, I knew he knew cream. Elite eye.

Come on, man. Miami heats. Hi, Captain. You're just like the tip of the flame? Is this a yellow or orange? I think it's... Is it red?

Maybe orange. It's a yellow like this, right? Is that secondary yellow color? Sure. Is it their second yellow? I don't know what the, what the heat's logo is. Yeah, I know.

It's no yellow. This is the color on the jersey. Some like this. But you know, he has like a spectrum, so it could be orange. It could be like this. But I'm assuming it's like secondary jersey color.

So I'm assuming it's this like yellowy color. Ew. Maybe it is orange. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, Yellow? Yeah, it's like a yellow.

Wow. Yellow's type of thing. It should be orange and I don't think about it. It's probably like, it's probably a very orange yellow, something like this. And is it dark? It's always darker than we expect. Yeah, so don't be full. I feel like that, that's a little bit too dark.

Yellow too dark. Needs a little bit more pop in there. Does this feel right? Go to slide. Go to slide his bit up. Get a little bit more put. A little more saturated. Right there.

Okay. Can we be, I don't know. This is a little too saturated, I think. So let's go to the left. Okay. That's a good bet. That's too much to the left. Right there.

Right there. 62. Okay. Okay. So what does it look like we need to do? Is it darker or more orange? Way more saturation. More on the orange side.

Yeah. It was more orangey. Okay. Yeah. I also keep, it sucks for watching this TV. I think the colors a little different for us on this TV

that we're looking at the screen recording through before we still sees. So it sounds like we need to give ourselves a plus 10% which means you got 99%. Exactly. We got to feel the wind and we got to account for that. And you got to make up for it.

That's where the darkness thing is coming from. Okay. So this is the blue, I'm assuming? Yes, it's blue, I believe. Is it? Maybe. Or is it another orange? I don't know.

Yeah, no, that's blue. Okay, yeah, yeah. It's all making sense. What type of blue do they have? So pretty, think about their jerseys. I think it's probably the same blue. It's a very bright, vibrant blue. Yeah.

Oh, it is a bright blue. Is Loki the blue on the background of this? It's very similar to that. No. But probably darker. But like that type of shade like royal blue? Go to all the way blue, like top corner. Let's see what it looks like.

Yeah, go from there and work the darkness from there. Because like you see like every single game, especially this season, they stayed with the blue jerseys, blue shirts everywhere. That blue is very pronounced. Yeah, it's very vibrant. I think it's like max saturation. It's just a matter of darkness.

So you might have to go like top right corner, but then play with the scale on the side. Maybe it's a little purple, more, a little more purple. Okay, let's see. maybe a little brighter. I think might be a little darker. That feels too dark. That's way too dark. That's way too dark.

Go up a little bit. Yeah, that's, we're starting to get there. I think a little bit darker though. Maybe a little bit further down. A little darker? Not a ton. Not in the color spectrum. On the shape.

On the actual blue? Yeah, like going down on that part. That feels right to me. Yes, I'm like that. That feels like okay. What are you locking in at? 65%? Let's say 62.

This one's tough. 667. Okay. Not bad. Pretty good. could do worse Orlando Magic Blue Play the music

They're pretty dark This is dark Orlando Magic Orlando Magic Orlando Magic Okay So Ooh that maybe

Is that too dark It's like maybe It's like a royal blue That doesn't look bad No that's too iridescent I think it's too A little bit too vibrant Yeah so saturated

Yeah So should I drop it down On the blue On the actual spectrum Yeah on both Maybe go down Parallel diagonal

this is hard because you associate it with like the brightest blue ever I'm going we didn't do nothing it did be way more dull yeah I'm going

I'm going I'm going I do the grizzlies alright hit this where's it here we go ooh

ooh oh okay oh you just hit this how nice what the fuck hold on I think it's a little

darker. That's really good. This might be his bag. And you got to go monitor too. You better nail this. Hell yeah. Hit that. Right there.

Boom. 80. Wow. That's tough. That's tough. Really the only issue was the shading. So you just had to change the thing on the right side. You would have had it.

I think you got the tone exactly right. That a good drop. My bad. I'm the opposite. You got the shading and not the tone. Okay. There's also blue. There's a light blue.

This is there. Is it really that light? Let's see. It's not tremendously light, but it's a. It's like a blue gray. Oh, well, it's like that. It's like almost exactly like that. But where do we take your shot?

No, I got a too good. It's a bad shot, man. It's a bad shot. Okay, it's not brighter. It's dark. It's dull, but how saturated is it? I feel like it's, isn't like a blue gray type of type of vibe? It's grayish, like over here.

Nah. No, I think it is around here. You're back to where you started. You got to make a little, a little. You got to be confident, man. Why the fuck I'll be confident in this? Because that's how you shoot. If you're not confident in shots, it's not going in.

I pick and choose my shots wisely. I know when it's not going to leave my fingers well. You're going 0 for 9, not 0 for 30. This guy, Dylan Brooks. That's a chat mentality, man. Exactly. Put it up. You were 82.

Wow. That's tough. That's tough. Okay. What's the best so far? 89, 89. That was crazy. Okay, 82.

Solid. Got a couple more. Got a couple more. Can I get like over? Can you break into the 80 club? Yeah. I need the hawks to pop up. I need at least like,

oh, the pelicans. It's like a reddish. I think it's gold. Goldish, right. I'm seeing these pictures that I'm realizing it's been a while since I've like just thought about the colors. Actually, that doodoo brown

or like that dudeu goldish, that seemed kind of right. Yeah, it's a doodoo-y gold. Yeah. It ain't nothing right about this organization. Yeah, it's a dirty pelican. It's a dirty pelican. It's a dirty water bird. He just be with KD all the time, man. I don't think it's that brown.

That looks a little too brown, I think. Are you sure? I don't know. No, I'm not sure at all. Don't trust it. I'm not sure whatsoever. I'm not sure. I'm experiencing.

Oh, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, forget. It's a little kind of dull. Yeah, that is what that tan does feel right. Maybe a little bit more gold. It's just one of the harder ones, too. Maybe a little bit up. Hey, you let you get up.

For that second, up looked right. Okay. I think you might be cooking around here. I think this. That's too bright, I think. That's not right. that is not correct the sand

that looks more correct I think I'm calling my shot 70% 6% damn not bad needed more vibrant needed more gold

yeah more gold need more yellow but you got the darkness about right but yeah need to be more gold more to the right that one's tough

that one's pretty tough king that was easy there's just purple purple's easy yeah Let's drop it down. Well,

let's go get this purple right here. Yep. Because they have, I think it's kind of darker is about right. They have like, yeah, they have like a pretty vibrant purple, but it is a little dark.

It's pretty deep though. Yeah. That looks about right. Yeah. That looks about right. I think that's the best one, honestly. Are you going to cash in it?

Don't overdo it. 56. What? What the hell? Yeah, you needed more blue. No, this is on the monitor.

Hey, man. These colors that they're using are pretty bad. Yeah. These are just nice. Yeah. get more vibrant. That's crazy

I think there's the last one Okay Bezos, do you take this Yeah, you do it You got it Okay Alright, here we go Am I even changing here?

The blue? Yeah, it must be a dark blue Okay We gotta play with these Alternate But not that dark It's just blue Yeah

Yeah Ooh Damn you're on the moon You know what It's the monitor That's killing Yeah, he's got it Sure

It actually is a big difference The TV, not gonna lie Okay All right Why don't you come over here Do it for this time Switch chairs with me Alright

Mr. No, no No, no Let's go No, no, let's see Let's see No, no

You're over there Mr. Shervin Williams Over there I know all the colors I so Mr. Paint match

Come on Not only is the color profile different on TV and is far away So we're going to reset what you have Going on

I can't even see it Yeah Yeah Yeah so sit in my chair Okay Oh, I so Oh shit I don't got my glasses

Oh no I use the mic Okay What People sing that I'm at some different camera Oh no he's cooked So weird

Oh my God He's cooked Yeah I don't got my He's on green Still He's on green Thought she was sweet man Hey this bitch is vibrant

As hell On the side He's no one I apologize Right you're nowhere in there This is so clear just seeing this monitor. Really? Hold on.

Yeah, we made fun of you for the track pad. We can't see colors. Let's just all respect each other. This is going to be the new low, 12%. Oh, that's too blue. That's too blue. You know what? Funky.

47 way off. I told you. It was way too. I apologize. It was way too blue. Oh, another one. Okay, I'm over here now. Was that the worst number that we've got?

No, it's tied because he got 47 to. This is Navy, right? Yeah, it's Navy. It's like dark as hell, isn't it? Yeah. Fuck it, this is a pool. 60. It'll just keep going.

It need to be even darker. This is like the end of black on the left. What? Okay. And we already did this one before, right? This is a blue. Yeah. So now I'm over here.

Yeah, but yeah, they wanted us to get the yellow before. Oh, yeah. That's a good. That's a good blue for real. 68. So, okay, I was too dark. It was more blue before. I went, mine like, it was like black.

No, vice versa. Yeah. It need to be closer to black. This shit is hard. Hey man. I don't like this game. Oh, you gotta get a good red on here. What do you think it is?

I think it's bright. Not, yeah, yeah, yeah, right there, right there. Right there. Oh my God, God, I don't like that game. I don't like this game. Way off, what the hell. We're cooked. Okay, see.

Is it the same blue? Where are they asking? Dark blue. The Navy on the outside. Yeah, yeah. Eighty-seven, there we go. Look at this. Look at the power of a TV.

Let's walk off with a way to man. All right. What is it navy blue as well? I think so. It might be a different. No. over. Great?

I do not know these logos. You're right. I'm like, yeah, yeah, put the pink on there. 8-4! Look at that. We're on a ride. We got to sit back here to do it. This shit's easy.

We're playing with handicaps. You're such a monitor merchant. I know. Mind that. Inflated ass stats. Well, with that being said, that is the end this episode. I'm doing the outro from Beasol's seat for the first time.

You look mad pale. We'll see you all Thursday. The hell? Oh, yeah, the color profiles are good. They're made for each other's skin.