The Deep 3 Podcast - The Brooklyn Nets Are A DISASTER! | The Deep 3 Ep. 9

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

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I think we all know we have to start with the Brooklyn Nets after the freaking madness that happened earlier today. The Moors is cooked. Let's get that out the way. They're done. So for people that don't know if you somehow live under a rock, today they fired Steve Nash. Ten minutes later, they hired IMAID DOCOs, which was they tried to make it seem like they did their due diligence to do a coaching search, but clearly this was the plan. So, Doc, do you think they're cooked? You don't have any hope for them now?

No, I don't. You've never seen anything with this much just volatility. one season and it's like even even teams who have had drama on the court the only way for them to get out of it is for them to have some kind of like accountability to like start to like start that process and the number one thing that comes to mind is like last year with the celtics and marcus smart comes out in the first couple weeks and it's like yeah jason tatum and jayden brown they need to learn how to pass the ball and they're like and they're like oh yeah like we actually do and we see tatum take leaps as as a playmaker and he actually starts passing the ball

And that starts the process of them becoming, you know, a finals contending type of team. There's nobody in Brooklyn that's out there about to take accountability for this. Kyrie is acting like the most arrogant type of person. He has his own set of problems. Katie's just showing up to hoop. Joe Sy. Yeah. You don't think Cam Johnson's taking over the locker room?

What? I think Cam Johnson's going to take over the locker room and say everybody's shirt? Come on, man. It's like, it's like. Nick Claston? Joe Sy. Oh, my God. Josiah before the season was like, yeah, I'd rather, he's like, I missed the days when we were winning 42 games and, like, we were having fun and this and that.

Guess what? Y'all might win 42 games and you're not going to have fun. Like, there's just nothing, there's nothing in Brooklyn right now that's inspiring. And then the fact that you talk about them doing their due diligence. And it took five minutes because they knew from the moment that you may get suspended that that's the guy that they want to bring back. And it's like, okay, what, like, what are we doing here? So obviously you don't have faith in them for all the off the court stuff. Mo, but just on the course stuff, do you think they're a better team now?

When it comes to on the course stuff, I think they have the potential to be a better team, but I'm one of those people who really think that, like, I don't know if Steve Nash has truly given an opportunity to actually coach,

because fucking Kyrie, we were talking crazy. He's like, oh, I don't believe we have a head coach or anything like that, the day that Steve Nash gets hired a couple years ago. So I'm like,

maybe someone like I, Emu Doga can come at Kyrie a different way, but Kyrie's Kyrie and Katie's going to do whatever katy do so this team might might be cooks but i don't i'm not one of those people who sold all of their stocks all my stock at all so maybe because like ben simmons hasn't played basketball in a long time a lot of people are giving um guys like clay thompson's a little bit of slack or whatever because he had hell of injuries and ben simmons has been away from the game not as long but he's had some serious issues as well that are yeah damn here it's a whole

years a long time like nobody's on romery's case for being buns right now or not buns but you know not a shelf himself like he gets such a terrible rap and you're right he's going to get better but just like you said on the court like i feel like they're probably going to be a little bit better now just because kd clearly fucking hated steve nash like this whole basis of requesting a trade was it's either me or these guys so one of those guys is gone now so clearly he's going to be happier exactly and so now that he's gone can we expect do you do you guys genuinely think that they'll be better and bounce back or at least not be as as high as they've been recently of course yeah they're like one and five yeah they're going to be better than that like they're not going to be

the worst team in the NBA yeah but that's again like I said that's because the bar is the is the floor right now but like even even on the court you have Ben Simmons who still doesn't want to look at the basket I don't care about him taking I don't care about him taking threes or anything he's not looking at the basket to get layups right there's a play there's a play in the game a couple days ago where he gets to steal he's on a fast break and if he takes one more dribble and looks at the rim that's a dunk it was crazy that play ended in a wide open three for katy didn't it so like even if he's not okay okay he's not scoring he's still doing his thing if you are going to say that that passing up wide open layups to go it's crazy to put it to put it out for three

i'm just saying either way obviously it wasn't a wide open layup it probably could have been if he kept going but like you're assuming it would have become that's sure yeah but all i'm saying that's wrong. I'm just saying is that all I'm saying to say that is you're still seeing the positive effects of him in some ways with that passing and him setting things up. He's been asked. He's been atrocious so far, but you're starting to see the, at least the footprints of what could be over time to get more comfortable. My problem with that is that you are taking like, you're taking the result and you're taking the result and using that to justify the actual infractions. I'm just saying the thought process is there. I'm saying that's a bad thought process. If you have

if you have a lane to the rim and you're 610 and you can go up and lay it up and dunk it and worst case scenario you get fouled and if you're scared about getting fouled then like that's a that's also a problem you should probably work on your frito shooting but if you're scared to do to do that that's the problem because if he pulls that out and kd misses the three now long rebound back uh the ball goes back the other way they might they might score because the net's transition defense and their defense as a whole is trash and so now this whole situation just got messed up. Yeah, I'm not trying to say he's been good.

That's definitely not what I'm trying to get at. I'm just saying that even when he's being bad, you see that the long-term vision for him on this team is going to be stuff like that where him just using his gravity towards the rim to create open shots. And even the ass version of Ben Simmons we're getting now is still doing that to a high level. I don't know. Not high level right now. Listen, Mo, you talked about selling all your stock.

You guys can have my stock. There's no way. There's no way to think they're not winning a championship. I don't think that they're going to make the conference. fine i'm i'm i'm 100% out there's just too there's so much there's so much going on on on the floor off the floor and i just like i i can't i can't i can't i can't do with it and it's like if it's like the old like fantasy fantasy football fantasy basketball adage was like you can't win your league on draft night but you can damn sure lose it and the nets have all they've they've

lost the season in the first two weeks they're they're done relax i'm with you i'm not thinking thinking like we were media specifically were really high on them coming into the season i'm not quite as high anymore i'm not expecting them to be like one of the top teams in the conference but i'm not rolling out the possibility like what are we doing here it's week they're they're done they're done yeah okay yeah i feel like now i don't want to say they're done but in terms it's like having trustworthiness on certain teams just to do better just be reliable from head to toe they've lost most of my trust i'm not selling all my stuff with them at all but it's just like, it's just like all the little things.

It's really baffling to me how they let go of Steve Nash off of a win, ironically, off of a win they go ahead and let him go. Yeah, and that was fresh off of their players only meeting or whatever. So you go ahead, you do that, and the first guy that comes to your mind, when it comes to controversy, he was the head of it this offseason. Yeah, that's crazy. exactly and now that's like talking about this like he's like he hates the drama like he's just all out of his hands he can't stand any this shit you hired him like you didn't have to do that

yeah and now like i'm over here thinking like yo you just about craziest kairi if you're making a move like that bro the reports are over here reports out here saying that this man cheated on one of the most beautiful women on earth and on top of that bro he's dog he's doing he's just doing people dirty women dirty the problem is him cheating on his wife for the NBA the problem is that there's no other reports about him potentially unwarranted advances to other people on the staff. Yeah, that is 100%. We still know the details, but it's quite the big deal.

Yeah, bro. Yeah, I don't think the infraction is that he cheated on the along. That's not why they suspended him. Not alone, you should have been exiled from the league, bro. You should have been exiled, and you should have been one of the managers at Costco or something, bro. He would have been better off of that. But, yeah, there's like, I agree.

Controversy follows them everywhere. In terms of, like, for the Brooklyn Nets, I do not see them getting like I think their ceiling elevates to another level once of course Ben Simmons starts being more aggressive on the offensive event because it's great of a playmaker and Basri is like I'm sorry but if you're not any type of threat on the offense event even when it comes to just going to the rim and doing what he's best at like that just limits everyone stealing around you including himself for sure and if you can put your weakest defender on someone like Ben Sim is now

because he ain't going to do shit I'm hiding Trey Young all night on Ben Sims are you kidding That is four and five I'm being real defensive of Ben Simmons and give him time And I'm probably being like the most defender of him On the internet right now But you're right If he's like this come play off time He can't play he's not gonna play 36 minutes at night

We just gotta hope and assume that eventually he'll get comfortable And start looking at the basket like Donovan said But I guess we gotta wait to see it And so we just assume he's gonna go back to normal Bro He's the same level of score As someone named Andrew Nemfart I don't even know if I'm saying his name right

You know who that is? Yeah Some random some random on the Indiana on the Indiana Pacers that's terrible bro he's averaging six points per game yeah bro

this is just so down bad like and now it's making me even little bit angrier talking about this not angry just irritated because like dude I understand the whole coming back thing but like guys like Clay and Jamal Murray they're different type of completely different type of players their score

first players but averaging six points there's no excuse for that there's no excuse for that not looking at them there's no excuse for that yeah clearly there's still some mental hurdles there of like confidence issues and like need to get back into his game which we we don't know what's going on with him but definitely something has to improve or else the team is definitely cooked and they're probably gonna if things keep going like this and they look this bad and ben is this bad no shot this team makes it through the trade deadline intact no no a major a major move has to be made what has to be done is you're going to have to figure out a way to get either ben

or Kyrie up out of it. That's the only... What's going to happen is Katie's like, I want you to trade me again. Get me the fucking... Yeah. And that's probably it. But if Katie doesn't request a trade,

then if you're Brooklyn, everybody else here, you guys are all expendable. Kevin Durant is the only one that we can't trade. Especially now with everything Kyrie's going off the court on Twitter and shit,

like we don't got to get into it. That's whatever. It's obviously abhorrent. His days are probably number in the NBA. Like he's probably not digging himself or he's not not many friendships are left there for him

exactly and so now you have now you have the second star of the team saying the things that he's saying doing the things that he's doing and you expect me to believe that they're going to somehow you know put this all together and just say oh it's a it's a random Tuesday in

November we can put this behind us let's go win a championship no it's not happening they're done yes you're right we just got to wait to see if they prove it was wrong but right now it's not looking good in Brooklyn as well as ticking time ball right now bro yeah I think we can move on yeah let's just go ahead bro as you guys can tell we're here with

episode nine of the D3 podcast got started with the hottest story of the day with all this happening today with the Nets rest of the episode we're going to talk about some teams that have looking really good so far like the cavaliers the bucks and then some teams that have looked really bad like the warriors and the clippers and then of course after that we're going to get to the TikTok topics we always do but I forgot to get his hot takes I just realized that normally open with the hot takes but I completely forgot

Donovan introduced this Cab's topic I'm gonna go find to some hot takes Yeah That's fantastic Listen Mo Mo and Isaac

Have y'all seen Have y'all been watching the Cleveland Cavaliers Because they look They look fantastic right now They are five and one They are second to the Milwaukee Bucks Who we're gonna talk about

A little bit later in the show But they're second to the bucks In the Eastern Conference Donovan Mitchell looks every bit as advertised even better and Darius Garland has been out since night one with an eye injury He's played like two minutes or something like that bro All I want to say off the top is the comments have fucking crucified me all summer

Go ahead I said the calves are closer to the best team in the east than they are to like the fifth or six seed I give them an a plus or an a minus when we're talking about chances of being contenders Go off fuck you the calves are amazing Recently I crucified again for saying that Donovan Mitchell is Jalen Fuck you Donna Mitchell's amazing That's right The comments crucified you for that

No everybody did They'll hold the comments Wow crazy Listen don't the whole everything that we've talked about Everything that we talked about the cabs coming into this season In terms of them being able to have like two Offensive engines in the back court in Garland and Mitchell And then you have Mowgli and Allen in the in the back end

To put to have like that twin towers type of defense It's working out perfectly Cleveland their fourth In offense right now, they are third in defense. They are second. They're second in net rating. Like, everything that you thought was going to happen in terms of, like, best case scenario, it's happening. And again, Derris Garland isn't even on the floor yet.

He's not even on the floor. And so, Donovan Mitchell, like, listen. Yeah, I think the main thing is talking about, like, on the MVP-type season, bro. Oh, certainly at this point, for sure, top three. I think a big thing with him is he's been playing as a point guard with Darius Garland out. And he's been incredible. Like, it's by far the highest assist percentage of his career. And being that primary ball handler and having that ability to playmake,

mixed with the ridiculous shot making he's had so far. He's shooting like 47% from 3 and like 75% or actually I wrote down, 73% at the rim. That's just ridiculous. Maybe he can't keep that up because that's like LeBron, Luca level of shooting at the rim and he's a small guy. But regardless, the fact he's doing it so far with two big lineups where you don't have the best facing in the world is just incredible.

Yeah. It's going to be very interesting though. when Garland comes back, because Mr. he's been playing high minutes, though, right? He's playing, he's playing 37 minutes. He played 46 against the Celtics. That game did go into overtime, but still, you played 46 out of the 53 minutes that are there.

He's played at least 35 minutes in five of the games this year. So he's definitely on the court a lot. So I think, like, in terms of the sheer volume of numbers, that's clearly going to go down. I think with what Isaac said as well, like the rim scoring is probably going to go down. He's shooting 45% from three. That's like Steph Curry number. That's like prime Steph Curry number. So that's obviously going to go down.

But like I think that he's definitely in, and it's funny because one and week two, but he's definitely like now on the MVP short list. He's probably top. He's top five in MVP shortlist right now. Yeah. And that's just, I'm just very happy to see that. to see the Cavs and everything working out because this was a team that before injuries

just completely ransacked their whole team last year, they were making a play. They were making a play in the East of conference. Exactly. Yeah, they were amazing. Exactly. The Cavs just make me so happy. And of course, it starts with Donovan Mitchell

and all the things that he's, all the phenomenal things that he's been doing, best basketball outside of the playoffs that he's been playing in his life without a doubt. And like, I feel like even more light needs to be shut on the guys around him because he won't be doing he won't be going as crazy without guys like Harris of Rick randomly dropping like 41 points one night in the very next night giving him a whopping one point absolutely absurd and then fucking you got Evan Mowbly and Jared Allen

holding it down with the pain and Evan Mowgli still developing as a player at least on the offensive end defense he's already there he's elite in my mind and on the offensive and he's still working to get better and he has been better this this season so far and all the little things that guys like jettie ozman has been doing the dean wage of the world and then kevin love still kevin love now still like he's he's a productive player to just have so many productive things going on in cleveland and now that day is going to be back eventually i don't know how often someone like yonness can carry the buck's offense because they i at least someone at least right now i don't think they have what you said you said you don't know how often

Yannis can carry the Bucks offense? Yeah, right now. As long as Chris Middleton is out throughout the entirety of the season. I'm going to go on the hunch and say that he can do it. Yonis can carry the Bucks offense. Yeah. As long as Chris Middleton is out, I'm not 100% sure if you can continuously do that night in and night out. I think he's, I think he's going to win MVP.

Run away with that shit for sure. Yeah. Well, we'll get that topic later. Yeah. Okay, keep going, keep going. Yeah. So I feel like. Now, once Darius Garin gets back, they're going to be no less than a three-seed, probably going to, they might finish out as a two-seat.

That's what I was going to ask you. Now that you're seeing, do you mention that, maybe he slows down and goes back to normal, but clearly he's at least capable of being the same guy he was in the past, maybe he locked a little more with this new lineup he has. Is this alter how you guys are viewing the Cavs? Mo, you said they're a top three team now in your eyes. I think you had him, like, just outside of that before the season. What about you done? Four or five. Yeah.

What do you have now? Um, I would, I would also have them top, top three because this is, I'm like, if you look at the standings right now, there's nobody in the east, like outside of Milwaukee who, we all know just how much I love Milwaukee this season. But I don't think that there's, I don't think that there's anybody that's really impressed me over the first two weeks, um, to get into that top three. The one thing that I would, the one thing that I would be concerned of for the calves is whenever, whenever Garland comes in, I, because again, we only saw. 13 minutes of Garland Mitchell. I want to see kind of at least over a week, over two weeks. How does that back court and their defensive issues kind of put, put even more stress on Mowgli and Allen?

And what does that look like? What does that look like long term? I think eventually, like, the offense is going to be able to weigh it out. But, like, I don't expect them to be top, top three, top four in defense moving forward. I think the offense is going to start picking up. Yeah, right now, these lineups, I think they're starting Dean Wade right now in there instead of Darius Garland, who isn't nearly as good as Darry's Garland, obviously,

but he's probably a better defender, even though it's not like he's lighting the world on fire as a defender, but just the fact that Garland is so undersized, like you're saying. I didn't even think about that idea. There probably has to be some drop off as a defense, but I think for the reasons we said all offseason, this team is very capable of covering up a small back court as well as any other front court in the league can. So I'm not super worried about it, but I see why you'd say that. Yeah, and the thing is like Mitchell and Garland, they're going to be able to play off each other.

like so so well so you can you can take a basically like a non-shooter and kind of put them at the three because you're still going to be able to have a pretty decent amount of spacing with garland mitchell even mowby being able to stretch out a little bit like there's going there's going to be room to operate well i mean i mean like listen he's not like he's not he's not he's not cat in terms of like three-point shoot a percentage but like yeah but they're guarding like 26 or something like that they're kind of guarding him as long as he garners as long as he garnered the respect for the defense then those lanes are going to be there so i so that's what i'm saying like offensively cleveland's going to be able to to pick up uh you know where the

defense is lacking once those two guys come in the thing on mobile is more so people guard him is because you don't want to leave him white open because he'll easily get into a dribble handoff scenario set off all screens cut like he's just too dangerous of a too smart of a player to leave wide open so even though he can't shoot he gives you a little bit of spacing just with his dynamicness that's a word yeah but i i'm but i'm listen i'm i'm with you and I think we're all on the same page in that, like, Cleveland, listen, Cleveland, they're going to be top three, and they're only a game behind Milwaukee. Milwaukee hasn't lost yet. There's a very good possibility that Cleveland can end up as the number one seed this year.

That'd be crazy. It would be shocking. It would be shocking. So, listen, Isaac. Not to me. Shout out to you. You can make your victory lap in week two of the season. Facts.

Yeah, exactly, bro. Go ahead and make your victory lap. I just don't think it would be so automatically. plug in play like when it comes to teams making major acquisitions yeah i don't think that we've seen like we're you're used to seeing like some lebron teams like whenever like he gets a new band together whatever like there's always a slow start initially always and the only other time as of late at least that i can remember like oh some massive transition happens and there's it's just automatic it's just basically plug and plan there's they're off to fire start and they're

already like the finished products day one day two day three is like when katie was on the warriors yeah it's just that type of smoothness yeah i'm not talking my talent anything but that type of smoothness that's what i see yeah for sure yeah for sure yeah and because like although this side of the spectrum there's the hawks where there's they're good but you see that they take some time and get used to it so you're right usually that is what happens but yeah the fit here is just so perfect that and don't i think people underrated how smooth of a fit don't Mitchell is on almost any team like the way he plays he's ball dominant but not ball centric in the way that he has to have the ball like he still impacts others

and can be without the ball so I just feel like he's a type of guard that you can plug into almost any team and it's going to work out well facts facts yeah absolutely but what I got to say now is I have the hot takes ready so I think we can finally get to that let's up in the show but I was slacking so as always I got a list of NBA hot takes for you guys let me know if these are W takes or L takes all right let's go first one ao says that lebron is the most overrated player in the league right now

that's an out take that's an out take i would only say that this is a uh w take if lebron was being praised at the top two or number one player in the world but no one in the right man in the right mind is doing that right now yeah i agree

i was probably overrating the baron a little bit beginning of the year because i was still like he might still be the number two player might still be the number three player but i think i'm starting to calm down a little bit and see that maybe he just can't elevate teams when there's nothing around him as much as he could as he used to be able to but he's still clearly in that type of tier just based on what he can do if there's an adequate team around him yeah yeah he's what's lebron top seven oh at least right right right like top five for sure yeah top top yeah five through seven so yeah i'm i'm gonna say it's a i'll take i don't know who the most overrated player is right

now i have to think about it but it's not lebron it might be kawai lanyard right now just based on how things are going for him because people are still talking about him that man is brittle that man who's brittle it's not going well for his body's kind of giving up on him which sucks to see hopefully he turns it around

yeah we got some under him the same way we do AD who the fuck are you telling another Lakers one Travis says that the Lakers should trade all three of their stars we're loosely calling Russell Westbrook's star here but you know what he means

that's a W-Take I told y'all last week if you're the Lakers blow it up I'm you're you're not getting a championship out of this go ahead hit the reset button get all the assets that you can and because like you guys said at the end of the day you're still los angeles you're still going to be able to attract stars if you have if you have kind of a good infrastructure but right now you're not competent and you have no assets so blow it all up and we can just keep moving on and you can try and restart and beat the lakers w take no no no no it's basketball law

It's in the NBA Bible. You don't trade LeBron James. That's the number one rule, bro. You just don't do this. Not a good look. Who LeBron? Ever. Who's LeBron?

What? Oh, my God. You don't trade LeBron. And I know if Anthony Davis's body is really failing him like we think it is, I guess you might have to move on eventually. That's the conversation. Anthony Davis just don't grow on trees. Like, there's only so many players better than him.

Like, it's hard to give up on a talent that great just for what the potential could be if he's healthy. Like, it's a tough pill to swallow. The potential if he's healthy, but he's never healthy. He's never healthy. LeBron's 37. Russell Westbrook doesn't know how to play basketball anymore. The three pillars of your, the three pillars of your franchise are depreciating assets right now. Get off of them while you can and get everything that you can right now.

All right, right. I get it. Yeah. So again, it comes down until you don't trade LeBron James, especially when him being there because he wants to be a Lakers, giving you all so much, like, cachet with other NBA. players like the reality the politics of it you don't trade lebron james said ooh because so much cashed we got one t in the building like that shot i want t though sad i want t's my god okay okay okay last one walter says that palo boncaro is going to be an all-starter's rookie year

i said that weird walter says that palo is going to be an all-starter's rookie year this is a i love this take yeah he's got to be scooping bro he's he's his generation all right now. He's playing generation. I knew who's going to be good. I knew he was going to be good from day one. Back when the NBA draft was happening, idiots were talking about some old, Chet Hongromo, Jabari Smith, Jr. man, man.

Yo, hey, Isaac, yo, takes whatever you had about Jabari. He down the toilet right now, boy. I'm sorry. I didn't know how I was. You thought he would. No, you. No, it wasn't. Okay, I'm going to screen recorded. I'm going to send it to you after this podcast, all right? Anyways, Jabari, my bad,

I said Javari. Palo and Carol is a generational talent and he's able to he's able to if he's able to stay healthy throughout this entire season easy all-star that was high on jabari i was not a jabari guy at all no you were in soft-line to me i wasn't at all anyways i don't think palo's probably not going to make the all-star game because he's team so bad and there's so many other good players but you could definitely argue he's on all-star level right now as a player and like he's going to be thought of in that tier for sure i think 23 23 7 and 4 right now as a as a rookie and he's he's on and he's shooting 29% from three you yes the efficiency at least a little bit to be

desired but yeah he is a rookie so i mean but but listen but you let that number get up to 33% and now he's scoring 24 like listen that the the path is there for palo to get to the outside how many how many fords are how many forwards are better than paolo right now there's katy there's john again say it again how many forwards are better than say what say it to clear way because it might use it for a tic-tok okay cool how many power forwards are better than how many power fords are better than palo van carroll right now okay so obviously yonis zion pascal siacum jimmy jimmy we're not going to count jimmy's power for let me let me let me re-ask this question let me re-ask this question why did jimmy what did you think we said

yeah i just heard i just heard forward oh okay okay i didn't hear power forward yeah i said i said power for the first time so and then four is the second time so let me re-asked question because I left out an important component. How many forwards are better than Palo-Oben-Carroll right now in the Eastern Conference? That's the conference. Yeah. So, Janice, Pascal Seacom,

Katie. Katie. Are we count Jimmy Butler's a forwards? Have he listed as? I think he's listed as that. Yeah. The heat is having a slow charge. They're so raggedy. Jimmy Butler's so better. You know, just Jimmy Butler. I just feel raggedy whenever I talk about

the E-Bister. Who else is there? You can't say Julius Randall. There's, um, Taito. Well, wait, we just... Oh, Jason, Jason Tatum, obviously. Uh, Jalen Brown still is better than Pallel. Once Pallel gets more efficient, he'll pass him up, but for now, Jalen.

Yeah. Um, Evan Moby's not... Evan Moby's not... Evan Moby might not, I don't know, that one's tough. I'm taking Pollo right now. It's tough, for sure. It's a conversation. It's a real conversation.

He is very inefficient still. He is putting up numbers, but we still... It is on a bad team. He's getting tons of shots. Evan might be better. I don't know. That one's tough. I'm a bad guy

I'm sorry I'm one of those dang okay so now that we talk about it so Paulo's not going to make the also team this year that's an outtake that's not that's not happening

okay yeah okay so either way he's set out yeah the fact that he's on this level as a rookie is like almost unprecedented

in the past 20 years so either way he's going to deserve that type of cashet going forward yeah absolutely all right We got those out of the way We have another team talking about next

That I have Opinions about I want to hear y'all's opinion about Are you worried about the Golden State Warriors A little bit Their defense's ass Kind of Everything's ass right now

Just for some background They have a 20th offense And the 24th defense right now The defending champs That's what's concerning to me That's what's concerning to me I'm not I'm not worried about the Warriors' offense at all

I think that I think that eventually you have a Steph Curry centered offense. That's going to fix itself, right? The problem is that for this entire run, you have this team that's been one of the best defensive teams in the league, and now they're 24th in defense. And that's kind of scary. And the main lineups that you play,

you have Clay Thompson who can't defend anybody. You have Jordan Poole who can't. It's not really Clay's fault. No, listen, it's not his fault. that he's like doing something wrong but he's he's just he's just limited now because of all these injuries i wouldn't say he can't defend anybody he's not the clay used to be but he's still confident defender like there's certain plays you see him get blown by you're like that wouldn't have happened in 2019 but he's not like he's not a complete light of there pool can't defend yeah

it's in my mind i don't know is like you probably have the stats up already but i like i just looked at james the wiseman's numbers and he gets pretty a pretty good amount of burns and he's averaging like 0.4 blocks and that kind of screams like oh shit how is their rem defense right now in my mind and i feel like that's where they might be lacking just the other day i saw some something on um the br app about um dwight howard pretence he wanting to be interested in fucking what's it called what's the mentoring yeah mentoring um james wise and that just like screams to me like yo their their rim defense is fucking ass and not only was the rim defense as perver defense like donovan was kind of alluding to it's kind of suspect right not kind of it is suspect right now

so okay so let me give you let me give you all some numbers like you said right now they're last in rim defense in terms of volume so they're not the worst in terms of like efficiency there like they're defending it okay but they're letting everybody get there nonstop like it's just a fucking turn style to get to the rim and on the offensive end they're last in rim scoring right now so that's just like math that really makes it harder for you to compete because those are most efficient shots in the game. So if you're getting eaten alive there and doing no eating there,

it's not going to go well. But more importantly, the interesting part real quick is their starting lineup is a good defensive unit. It's 100 offensive rating, which is 90th percentile. So, like, that regular Curry, Clay, Wiggins, Dray, Maugh, and Looney team

is completely fine. That's not the issue at all. If you look at the specific lineups that are getting cooked that have like 135, 162, 146 defensive ratings, they're all the ones with Jordan Poole and James Wise.

Yeah see and that's that's that's one of the reason why you saw after after that Denver series in the first round that pool party lineup where you had we had step clay pool wigs and dray that was that was unplayable because you just you just didn't have enough defense now you're seeing it now and for wiseman like if if wise men if wiseman isn't going to be able to to to play on the perimeter the same way that that kavan can or the same way that drayman can or the same way that drayman can. can then you have a problem because now like now you can't have you can't have that size and that switchability out there and somebody has somebody has to make up for for jordan pools it for his like lack of defense jordan pulls on off numbers right now are fucking horrendous oh my god what are they when he's when he's on the court their defense is 11 points per 100 possessions worse which like literally the difference between the best defense in the league and by far the worse i guess abhorrent it's 12th percent oh but even on offense their offense they're The defensive rating is 14.6 points worse than him on the court.

So in totality, when he's on the court, there are 25 points for possession worse than he's off the court. Now, it's a small sample size, and it's small sample size, and these offense and defensive rating aren't individual stats, so it's not all on him. It's about the lineups he's in with. A lot of those lineups have James Wiseman, like you said, who's also been an eyesore. But when they're that bad, it doesn't mean it's all his fault, but clearly he's not elevating anybody. He's not doing his job well. it's it's also very funny because if you look at the words like step so step is playing 34 minutes a night wiggins is playing 33 minutes tonight it's clear like these are these are the two guys

that that we need on the floor at all times everybody else is under 30 minutes a game draymond is under 30 minutes right and so it's it's very it's very very interesting because you don't have like a lineup that you're going to have out there for a majority of the game to set the tone and you kind of just have like this turn style guys that you're bringing in to try to figure out, like, who is going to get this stop? Like, somebody has to do their job. And so, yeah, that's the thing that, that's the thing that, that's concerning. That's the thing that's concerned.

What's it called? Yeah, GP2, Auto Porter, like, there's just a lot of stuff that they have to, like, in minutes to have to reproduce with new bodies. And I guess their bet was the young guys, they're going to be able to do it, but we have this thing materialized. I think Moses Moody has been solid, but, like, Jordan Pool will be better. Like, he had a slow start. I think the past couple of games. he's starting to improve. Yeah.

But that's the biggest thing, too, because we're talking about their offense and, like, writing it off. It's like, all the offense will be fine, but there's legitimate issues there. Right now, outside of Curry, they have, like, no creation ability. Like, we talked about them not getting to the rim at all.

Usually if you can't get to the rim, it's because you don't have ball hand and there's, like, can penetrate at all, and you're just taking tough mid-range shots. That's really been the story of their offense outside of Curry. Like, Draymond's on a minute restriction. He hasn't been himself. Clay's on a minst restriction.

Jordan Poole is playing like Jeremy Lynn. Like, it's just spint up. Yeah. yeah yeah i'm funny with all this with all this being said like it's just imagine how how much worse they would be if like curry goes on his like normal like slow start at the beginning of the season right now he's been on fucking five he's been doing his thing he's like he's been in his bag right now i think he's averaging like 30 or something like that or a little bit above 30 i don't know and he's pretty he's putting up pretty efficient numbers off the top of my head if i can remember

Turkey as well so just 31 points per game right now she yeah that's great who would a two what a thought bro he's towards the tip of the top of the he's towards the top of them being and scoring but yet the warriors are here playing really mediocre basketball yes it is concerning but if you're a warriors fan it ain't none too much to sweat about but i do know that like yo they haven't been this bad defensively in a very long excluding their tanking years or two tanking years or whatever they haven't been this bad at all defensively so I think one thing we can see a pattern with Curry in recent years of, like, the second half of the dynasty. If he has to score this much, it's probably a problem.

Last time we saw him go on this kind of fucking bender being an unstoppable score was a year where they made the play in and lost because they had nobody around him. So it's great to see Curry drop 35, 39, 37, and tripling three straight games. But if he's out here doing that, it's probably by necessity, and that's not a good sign for their offense. Yeah, absolutely not, dog. And now at this point, like, I remember a couple podcasts ago, I think. we were talking about the warriors and how they lost some key guys like auto porter junior in garrant and garrant and gary pey and things of that nature and now it's like all on the young dudes comegah hasn't been playing recently at all though he's got dnps that's

crazy and moses movie hasn't been absolutely fantastic or we haven't seen a real like impactful second year leap or anything of that nature just yet And now you're kind of like, damn. You're left, like, with nothing pretty much. It's just like, damn. I see what you're saying. It's like, what's the answer? If maybe just Camiga's not that guy, like, at a certain point, maybe, I don't know

for there yet, but eventually it's going to be like if Kurt doesn't want to play him at all. He's 19, like, he's 19 for three years. There's two. How does he? He's like 20 probably or 21. Yeah, yeah, he's young. I'm not saying I'm not saying he's cooked. I'm just saying, if in the very near term, if Curry doesn't feel comfortable playing him,

you can only wait so long without having that wind death they might have to make a move and find somebody else to fill that hole like Mo saying like maybe the answer isn't on the lineup right now

because outside of him there's not a ton of depth there I think well we saw a lot last season like especially early in the season we saw we saw Kerr give give a lot of minutes

to Camiga like there are just times like especially early in the season when you're trying to figure out who you're going to play in in April in May you're just going to have to eat those minutes

And you're really just going to have to, you're really going to have to, like, say, hey, these next two weeks, Kaminga, you're going to play 20, you're going to play 28 to 30 minutes a night. Like, I need to see what you have because this nine, nine minutes to 15 minutes every single night, bringing them in and off the bench, that consistency isn't going to give you any answers as a coach as to what he really has. Like, you're going to have to give him some serious time. So I think that is detrimental to their, like, current present right now, but also. for their future. I'm like a strong believer in like everything for a player, young players specifically is like situational. There's players who are probably as talented

who have no more talent as Jonathan Kamingo right now who are going absolute crazy. Someone who's not comparable into the play style or anything has that sense, but like, you know, this dude got potential if he has the space to show was like a bowl like he's going crazy right now in Orlando

and like he wasn't doing he wasn't on none of that when he was in Denver. There could be a lot. There's probably a lot of issues with personalities and how he was acting or whatever but like needless to say like he just needs an opportunity and with what steve cur is doing right now i don't know i don't know the logistics or schematics behind that whatsoever but i think he's just doing a disservice for everyone by not giving him more burn than fucking someone like tie jerome that's embarrassing facts facts yeah eventually i'm sure comming isn't he get his time to shine

but he's also probably got to earn it like it's just probably a reason And if it was up to Steve Kerr, an ideal world, he'd probably be given his guys tons of minutes and they'd be taking over the team. But if they're not playing to the point where they deserve that, it's kind of hard to walk that tight rope when you're losing so much early in the season. Yeah. So I understand his perspective. Yeah, I'm not tripping. I'm not mad at it at it at all. But I think the worst is going to be good at the end of day.

Yeah, it's hard to predict of them not coming back. I think they'll be fine too. Yeah, exactly. But on a team, on a brighter note, on someone who doesn't have to worry about coming back because they're currently on top of the world, we got to talk about. we got to talk about Jan Asana da Cumpo and Luca Donchich and the fact that they're probably by far the top two in MVP voting right now at the season end of today what is y'all's perspective in terms of these two guys

in the top who do you think is if the season end today who would be the guy you'd vote for how are you just general feeling about their season so far so the Dallas Marlins are three and three Donovan I want you to talk about that first like okay okay what's up yeah like what do you do you do you think the Dallas matters will be good enough for Yonanah, for, not Yonis,

Luca, to have serious talks of MVP. Yes. They're three and three right now. Yes. Yes. I think, I think right now, and especially the way that we've seen, like, kind of the MVP conversation over the last couple years and really where it's

going to be going, you're going to start seeing, in terms of, like, winning, you don't, you're not going to need to be the first seat or the second seat anymore. You're going to need to lead your team to not be in the playing. And so as long as, as long as you're in the top six seeds, right? like that's that's probably going to be good enough and i this is that isaac had said that a couple couple episodes ago and and i i think it's true so i think i think that the mavericks are going to be fairly fairly decent this is the one thing that we've thought about lucca for the last two years is can you come into camp healthy can you can you come into the season in shape

and you see what happens when he comes into the season in shape he's averaging 37 points a night y'all like 57% shooting from the field that's what i'm saying that is bonkers he's the first person since michael jordan to score six straight 30 point games to open the season it's ridiculous and there's a other ridiculous cherry pick numbers about like the first person with like 200 points 50 assists 50 rebrow whatever the number was yeah whatever all those fuck all that he's been on another level in every single way even outside of these counting numbers like he's just been incredible his grip on the game every single play is just from ridiculous like he's having the same usage he had before so it's not like he's just taking more

shots he's just been unstoppable in every way it's it's it's it's fantastic to see and so i think that i think that i think that dallas is going to be in a in a position where they're going to be good enough to where he's going to be able to be in the top three in um in vp voting as for yonis if the season ended today yonness would be the MVP right he's six and oh like he's they're flying under the radar he's he's six and no they don't have chris middleton they don't have pat Coniston and off offensive not like the other no no he said that as if he's a star but you're right you are right though without without Chris Middleton and without Pat Conantton that leaves them with very very little little shooting and and the and the spacing that they would have on the floor with

those two guys on the floor is completely different right now they're 17th in offense but they have the best defense in in the league and they're six to no yannis has already gone from 40 in a couple of games and he's he's 100% like the best two-way player in the in the game so he he'll be better get some defense player of the year buzz at this rate like there's been a few years where you get deserved it he needs to be in the conversations this year yeah the yannis yonis is my MVP right now so um shout out shout out to shout out to is it's his preseason pick um but these guys are just bro they're just different it's that's literally the only thing that you can say and because there's not anything like insight for new that we can say they're just really

freaking good at basketball like that's it it's really it yeah and someone who has lucca don't chef on my fantasy team i'm having a great time it's awful i'm just i'm so glad i haven't had to play you yet i i i izic and i're in the same yeah we're in the same fantasy league but he's he's going down he's going down bro so now that we have the top two MVP candidates out of the way something that I want to mention and ask you guys is like yo like we over here giving Donovan Mitchell his praise his flowers his team is like number two

on the east of concerts and he's fourth he's fourth on my list right now he's fourth so I'm going to assume that Devin Booker is not on your list right now because he's having damn near just as good not yeah I would say he's having just as good of a season at Donovan Mitchell right now

and it's hell interesting to see dude's averaging like 29 a game yeah he's in the conversation And the Phoenix Suns are 5 in 1 right now Just literally on the same exact ranking as The Kuiian Cavalers So why is he not getting that type of buzz? Yeah, let's go ahead and talk about them

You're right, they're not getting the buzz at all And I'll tell you why It's because everybody fucking hates them Because they got the malloch for the Mavs That no matter how good they are I'm getting the season we did our rankings I told you they'd be the two seed And you guys were like, no, they'll be the 18

Because y'all had that sour taste in your mouth Whereas just like you do not want to fuck with this team at all Everybody had the effects of it Even the most rational people, the most irrational fans, that doesn't matter. Nobody fucks with the Phoenix Suns right now. Their vibes are terrible. Everybody assumes they're going to be bad, but they're being the typical Phoenix Suns. I will say this, though.

I am concerned about the Phoenix Suns for one reason. Chris Paul looks old. He looks old. And he's... The thing is, it doesn't matter. No, it does. It does. It does. It does. I just mean for the regular season. Yeah.

It does. But yeah, Chris Paul right now, Chris Paul is... he's averaging less than 10 points a game and so before so before the sons played the Warriors last week it was it was a Thursday night game right so Chris Paul Chris Paul has a great game he shoots four or five from three before that game Chris Paul mind you Russell Westbrook was shooting 8% from three oh my God please don't say he was shooting 9% his numbers oh my god oh my god chris paul outside of that warriors game where he shot four for five from three his three point shooting has looked like this oh for two oh for one one for eight

oh for one oh for four he cannot shoot the three right now and that is very very concerning he's still it is it's not though it is everything else is fine the issue right now his regular score his regular score is that far yeah yeah well you look specifically it's because it's mid-range shots that were normally money the long mid-main shots aren't falling at all the three-point shots aren't falling but the short mids those little weird pull-ups he does from like eight feet away and lean backwards backwards those are fine his rim scoring is fine which is usually the first thing that drops off when you're an old man it's okay yeah jump shooting comes and goes it's Chris Paul even if Chris Paul was 50 he'd still go to make threes that's like there's just bearing us in that he's gonna be fine yeah but still never ever

in my life what I think jock longdale would be a better score than Chris Paul ever in existence bro it's not it's not you say it's not you say it's not I think you'll still be top you say it's not gonna last he only shot he shot 30 31% from three last season right so listen he's we've already seen a trend of of his three point shooting drop off a little bit so i'm not saying it's gonna be 9% for the rest of the year i'm not saying that yeah i don't you mean but even last year he's i'm looking at cleaning the glass which filters out garbage time and he's yeah 33% from three not great but he was still an elite player last year because he shot 55% from midrange which he usually shoots pretty high from there right now it's at 38 like

he's never shown that bad in his career he's not going to fall off a cliff and not know to make mid-range shots anymore this is a 37 year old man and he's looking every bit of 37 and i'm not too worried about when when it listen when you are when you're old and sometimes the the the switch just flips and you just become the old man overnight and so i think going into the playoffs that that would be concerning if we still if if his three-point shooting doesn't rise however i don't you mean yeah however like most said a couple minutes ago, Devin Booker, for sure. MVP conversation, because he has to deal with this old man who's sucking right now. And he still has them at 5 and 1.

We talked about the Cavs having the second best net rating in the league. The sons have the first best net rating in the league. They're at the top of the game with plus 12.3. They're fourth in offense. They're first in defense. I mean, no, the fourth in, excuse me. They are fourth in defense, second in offense, first in net rating. So I want to say, obviously they're great, like they were last year.

You guys didn't think they would be. What were you wrong about? Like, what parts of a drop-off that you predicted aren't happening? Well, this is the one part where I would say that it's only week two. Drop-off can still happen. But I overestimated just how bad the vibes were coming into the season. And I didn't give them enough credit for. for being professionals and being able to show up

and just power through all that and put all that foolishness to the side and still come out and be the suns. Because over the last two seasons, they've been this incredibly well-orined machine. And you think that with all the stuff that happened with Aiton, the way that they lost, the Sarver stuff that happened,

it was just a lot that was on their plate. And they've done a fantastic job kind of clearing everything off and sticking to basketball and being able to come out. So I overestimated the stuff. I think it's a testament to Monty Williams. Yeah, not only a testament to Monty Williams, but

Coat to the Year. Devin Bookers are a superstar. He could be, but Devin Booker's a superstar. And he's like, he's doing what superstars supposed to do, bro. He's doing what a superstar is supposed to do, which is like quiet the silence whenever they're quite, like, let there be science whenever there's hell and noise going on around your team right now. And he's doing exactly that. And he's been on one. He's been on a bean, bro, going absolutely crazy.

And I wish I would have seen this coming, but, like, something that should have been noted as well. And, like, why I kind of, I don't hate myself for having those takes that we had, Donovan. But, like, all these young dudes around Chris Paul, like, they're ascending. Chris Paul could average five points a game, and they still could be, like, a top three seat in the Western Conference. All these young guys are on them are just that good. But now, something that I do want to see more of is, like, DeAndre Aden get more touches still. But, you know, he's been great as is already. Cam Johnson.

We say this every year about DeAndre Aden, but there's only so many touches he can get as a third option. So, like, even if Chris Ball taking a step back, like, everybody wants to see this big leap from Aden, but the touch just aren't there. There's just too many, there's not enough ball to go around. Yeah, exactly. So, like, I'm not worried about, those are my reasons why. I, I didn't, those are the reasons why I didn't see this coming and you saw it obviously coming. And just to go back a couple of minutes about the Phoenix Suns and Chris Paul specifically, last season, this dude shot like 30, you said he caught 31% from 3.9 or whatever.

And during those playoffs, he shot like 38%. And of course he's shooting terribly right now too, like CP3 is CP3. And I just imagine it always happens. he's always going to get those percentages up over the last few years he's been doing at least for the Phoenix Sons and that along with these guys just constantly elevating

I just don't see them I see them like keeping up where they left off last year now they might get that as to argue yeah I was said you can still argue it's not going to be good enough that's the second round exit that's all that is yeah maybe

it could be but I think it's safe to say that they're near the same quality of team as they were last year like there wasn't a precipitous drop off that people predicted. Yeah, absolutely. We're still left to be seen if that's going to be good enough if they have the composure

to last through a whole playoff run they didn't have it last year. Then again, there's some complications with their whole team getting COVID and not reporting it. There is a lot of crazy shit going on, but we'll see. Nah, I'm still out, though.

I'm still here. I'm still hate. I know. Anyway, I think that's all we got to talk about today. I think we can get on to the TikTok topics. Let's do it. We didn't tell y'all at the top of this show, but we kind of left it a surprise

for people that stick around to the end but right now we're going to do a current player only draft which I know you all love these draft videos it'll be a great TikTok but if y'all show you're watching you get to see it live first let's go oh my god

so this is it's a great of draft is it my turn who got it last time I was first pick last time so it's not my time I think it is I think it might be your turn Isaac okay who was second was the second last time

no I think I was Okay, so me, Mo, Donovan. That'll be the order. Yeah. Okay. Unless I want to switch, I don't really care. That's fine. I'll take three.

I'll take the double up spot. Yeah, it's a good spot to be in this draft. So, let's get this hook in there. Let's draft the best possible starting five. Got a jolly ranch in my mouth. That's kind of hard to talk. Probably shouldn't be doing this up podcasting, but I couldn't resist. Dangerous activities.

Let's draft the best possible starting fives with current players only. time to take the first pick you know i gotta go yonis on the tucumbo easy choice yeah second pick i'm not leaving losing any sleep give me stuff curry okay okay dang that's that that was actually my that was that was my pick that sucks okay he's the best part to have in making teams because he makes every team so much better yeah i i couldn't let this man i doesn't get his hands on someone like curry and that yonis combo there's just no competition though no shaghy falls to me at six it'd be impossible okay all right so at three i'll take Jokic at three, and then at four, I got to figure out what I want.

Imagine he's pairing with Embed, have the two dominant bigs. Oh, I completely forgot about Embedd. Who am I going to take? You know what? Just because he's bawling out right now. Give me John Morant. Give me John Moran. Oh, my goodness. He's a king of selling drafts, bro.

At four? Give me John Moran. Damn, Donovan. Good. okay so you got john morant i'm going you wait did you get did you get yokech already yes yeah okay so i'm going to go ahead and grab me luca it's a good pick wow yeah i forgot about i can't believe you did you're the king of selling bro you were the king of selling that's crazy yeah yeah that's wild that's crazy so avionis of the four what way to what's direction do i want to

take this wow that's really crazy yeah he's still thinking about that bro you're gonna get absolutely cooked bro you deserve it nah i actually do deserve it this time yeah you need to be cooked like rotisserie chicken bro absolutely i'm gonna go big and pause and take i'm gonna go big and i'm gonna take the best players available give me give me imbid and give me lebron okay okay that's big as fuck pause okay that's funny who you got all right so it's my turn you got imbid and lebron i like honest imbid and lebron with yonnes damn that's shit okay so i got steph lucca and i need i need a menacing defender now you already got imbiz so in terms of bigs who's up there next fuck that i need i need star peteris

Fuck all the life picking Anthony Davis Don't even get him out of here I'm not doing it this time You want Carl Lutty Towns? No I don't want Rudy Gobert I don't want Carr Anthony Towns I'm just gonna go on this trend Of just you can't stop me

And give me Kevin Durant Okay Okay that's good that's good You got all the hoopers over there Yeah all the hoopers bro All right I got all the big buff motherfuckers on my team So I got I got Yokitin Jai right now

Give me I want to wings i want i need some wings i need some wings give me jason tatum damn he was he was never going to make it back to you um yeah so give me jason tatum and then give me give me paul george oh i was gonna pick paul jose him give me pa george damn okay okay i like that all right that is it my turn Okay So you got Jason Tatum You got Jason Tatum

Oh shit That was literally right next up on my list And now I think I'm pretty comfortable with this pick I need a big I need a big dearly Who's nice at defense And as of now

I can't think of anybody else Who still has Star Power Who is at that same level So I got to go ahead and pick Pascal Siakum. Pick Pascal over AD. You really hate AD. Oh, fuck.

You're right. Oh, my God. Fuck. That was terrible. Yeah, that was terrible. I don't need AD, so he's probably going to be there for you on the back end.

I'm going to pick Kauai Leonard and Damian Lillard. That's nice. That's nasty. I don't know who's beating me, but we'll see what you guys ended up. Kauai and Dame. Fuck, yo,

fuck. Okay, whatever. All right. So you got Kauai. I was born to dominate dress. Yeah, fuck, bro. So I need a five. Do I really have to pick Cat?

Is this man dumb? No, I'm going to pick AD. Let's go. I'm fucking nervous. I just want to see it. Let's go. So I need a four. I need a four.

And I need to. Hmm. I'm trying to. Is he? Is he going to pair Zion with Joe? No. No. I need a little bit more defense.

Cream on Grin? No. Give me BAM out of bio. Okay. To pair with Yokic. Bam and Yokch is nice. Give me, give me Bamb. Damn, did I lose this draft?

Fuck. Was that third? No, I think you sold way too hard with that job. Yeah, man, you still Jaws. So, I mean, he could have picked Luke of it. I mean, so I got, I got Lillard, Kauai, LeBron, Janice, Joel. That's nasty. I got Curry, Luca.

Who was my three again? Katie, I got Curry, Luca, Katie, Pascal Siakum, and Anthony Davis. That's fucking filthy. Boers can't play. No defense, though. I got Jha, P.G, Jason Tatum, Bam, Yokich. That's fucking disgusting. I ain't know why these teams are disgusting, bro.

I made a loss. I might have lost Yeah I don't think anybody has Like by far the worst team Nobody's sold super hard But we'll see what the comments Got to say about that

I definitely reach So like if I get that I own that That's on me coach That's on me coach Okay Dang Next to two talk we're gonna do

Um I want you I want you to tell me I want you to guess Whose stats these are Let's do it I love this idea Let's go

Yeah let's get I'm gonna let's have some box for sats I'm gonna text you guys So you guys will see it Everybody else will see it on the screen right now Which I got to remember to put this in the long form So it's not just a TikTok people who see it That'd be tough

Okay But I'm gonna list some stats You guess which NBA player this is And let me get these stats And text them to you guys in the group chat But I try to get a mix of different types of players So it wouldn't be super obvious

Yeah Here's the first one I'm excited All right So 13 points So this player So this player averages 13 points seven rebounds 4.8 assists

34% from the field 20% from 3 1.4 steals 0.2 blocks quite interesting that line damn who is this fuck this is nasty as hell you tell me

is this is this Josh Giddy nah Josh Giddy kind of going on no Josh Giddy's he's shooting more efficiently he's shooting more efficient especially from 3 this is not

not Josh Kitty and he's he's getting more than 4es per game as well can we get a hint either Easter and our Western Conference that's the only one I want not yet not yet not yet you take your guess Mo and then we'll get the hit okay I'll take my guess so are you should so this is clearly is this a guard it could be a guard could be 20% of three though yeah 20 that's I think this is probably a two or three, so it has to be a guard because of the steals, though. Yeah, garter, guarder wing, bro, but the rebound's kind of high as well.

Is this Russell Westbrook? It is Russell Westbrook. Shut him in my bag! You can't stop. Fuck. Fuck, what's going. Dangerous. Yeah, let's go.

What's crazy is that I didn't pick Russ because I thought his numbers would be worse. Yeah. I was waiting for like for a 12% from three. And I was like, oh, that's where I's right there. She saw 50 the other night. So like, that's crazy. That's all got him up there. Okay.

Here's player number two. Hopefully it's on screen for you guys. 23, 6 and 4. Oh, that boy, Bowen. Oh, my goodness. 35%, 45, damn near steel. This was a little bit tougher because it could be a lot of players. yeah this could be a lot of players for sure um is this initial guess

for some reason for some reason i want to this is not my official guess this is an unofficial guess but mo mo tell me what you think about this and for a second i want to say this is a big but looking at the turnovers and assist i'm like i don't know too many big so handle it that often and is this okay I would take my first official guess is this Cade Cunningham no it's a good guess that's a great guess that is a fantastic guest dog so if it's not Cade then your head's in the right place kind of so he's a young player okay he gave that away could be yeah he's Jalen maybe maybe Jalen Braylon Brown? No, green.

No, Green's not shooting that efficiently for sure. He's not he's chucking him off. Okay, I'm gonna say Jalen Brown why not? It's not Jalen Brown. Wow, who is? All right, can we get a hit? He is in the Western Conference. Western Conference, okay. Western Conference, okay, cool.

Y'all better be commenting who you think this player is in the meantime, like, y'all can probably get him for that again. He's averaging 23, 6, and 4. averaging 23 6 and 4 right now okay I have a guess I have a guess I have a guess oh my god this is Keldon Johnson this is not Kelvin Johnson what the fuck man fuck okay all right whatever I'm gonna I'm gonna guess Deeran Fox no he he's gone he's bonn he's not no that's not Deeran Fox so he's in the west uh let me get let me get let me get another he's below 24 years old

below 24 years old is this it can't be shake she's averaging more is this zion no no no the rebounds would be higher i feel like i loki i said that it can't be shade but i loki feel like it might be just because the turnovers are there so you know it's going to be like a point guard but is shea older than 24 i think he is uh i think he is 24 it's not shay Okay. You know, we're in a dungeon right now, Donovan. I know, I know, I know. I know.

We got to think. We got to think. We got to think. It's a guard, obviously. It's a guard. Yeah, it has to be a guard. Western Conference. Is this C.J. McCollum?

No. Fuck. Oh, you said he was younger. Fuck. Just man picked an old man. Yeah. Are we talking about Anthony Simons here? No.

That's a great. Fuck That's a great I'm not gonna tell you if it's a first Wait can we get is it Wait wait wait wait wait is it is it is it Anthony Edwards It is Anthony Edwards Let's go

Fuck you Donovan Eat my dick Fuck I got this shit Yeah We're on the same team We're trying to No we're not No we not no we not

I'm not playing fair Screw you I am screw you I'm not playing fair this season We were supposed to be here You're breaking this Fuck on it. You're breaking this.

Yeah. There we go. Dan all so hard, you know. Okay, we have one more name. One more name. All right. I like this. We should have to do this throughout the season.

Yeah. There's a third. These are the third stats. 22, seven and four. Wait, what? Send the text again. I haven't gotten it. Small wife I messed up.

Probably. Probably. Is your one? I can. I can lead it off to you if you want. Sure. So. this player is averaging 23 points per game basically 7.6 rebounds 4 assists 2.6

turnovers which is important to know 43% from the field and 29% from 3 along with 1.1 blocks which is interesting in 0.6 steals so he's a guard in my mind he has to be a guard or a wing yeah 22 7 and 4 and he is struggling from three just a little bit it's a little bit you know uh okay i don't know i don't know this is a good player y'all have a hard time with this and i expected yeah this is i mean you're giving us the most you're just giving us random numbers

and we're like yeah out of the 450 players who is yeah there's a lot of damn good players in NBA today who are average like around these type of numbers so it's hell hard 22 7 and 4 so he's not he might be a power 4 not definitely on power 4 yeah I think it's a 3 or 2 you know power 4 243 percent bro is this wait is this is this is get a guess going I'm a so this is not I'm a guess I'm a guess I'm a guess I'm a guess is I think this is Zion this is not Zion Williamson this is not Anthony Davis this is not Anthony Davis.

All right. We both used our first guess. What's the hint? Yeah. It is an Eastern Conference player. Is this Jason Tatum? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, I am so stupid.

Mo, count your days. Count your days. All right. This is Palo Bancaro. This is Palo Bancaro. Congratulations. Count your rookie. Damn, you got this.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was a tough one. Tatum was a good guess, though. I guess. Not really. Not really. Because it was the wrong guess.

Yeah. Yeah, I still went overall, though. Eat me, bro. Pause. Whoa. It's magic. Well, we have some technical difficulties. Most cameras stop working is no more storage left.

So we had a couple more topics left for you guys. It doesn't look what we're going to get to it this time. So I think that's the end of the show. Bye