The Deep 3 Podcast - The Most Important Player In Every NBA Playoffs Series | Ep. 207

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Donovan. Isaac. Who do you think is the most important player on your team? On the New York Knicks. Got to be capital. Got to be Jayne Plesson. And how did it feel? Watching him get his ass.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Walked down by Seidon McCollum in the clutch. Abused over and over, turned around, walked down some more. It was nasty. It was filthy. It was disgusting. It was all those things. How did it feel to watch your sunshine?
Starting point is 00:00:23 Get put on next videos. I was set up. I was set up. Someone has to do it. Listen, man, I'm not going to lie. That was disgrace. That was tough. I was tough.
Starting point is 00:00:37 There was one move where CJ had him just going every direction, going left, going right, going back. And I was just like, damn, man, you're really out here getting fries. Stand up. Do something, please. You say, how do you want it? All right, man. He didn't say all that. No, he didn't ask him.
Starting point is 00:00:54 He just gave him to him however C. C.J. wanted to give it to him. There was no questions asked. Yeah, it wasn't a mutual thing. You're just going to get it like this. He's like, come over here. You get ISO it every time. Yeah, that was wrong.
Starting point is 00:01:10 But it is fun. I've a, I've a new... Wait, what? He said double entendre. No, y'all got it. As you got to see it by the title. You ain't with that one, though. Accidental bars are the best bars.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. With that being said, as you got to see about the title, we are here today to talk about every single NBA playoffs. series going on right now. Almost every series is 1-1. We thought we'd get a boring first round. Then King, game two, and most of these teams that we thought were going to come out and roll over gave us an entertaining series by bouncing back, including the Atlanta Hawks, including Detroit Pistons last night. We can go over all of them and frame it by telling you guys who we think is the most important player in every single NBA playoff series.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Mo is not here right now. As you guys see, actually, never mind. Mo is here right now. My bad, he just can't talk right now. His voice is a little hoarse. So I'll do him a favor, and I'll glaze the Hawks a little bit for him. Yeah, man. Let's get there. single playoff series. We're throwing it back. Whoa. That's crazy. He was bragging.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I don't need to sit at me. The cranium is crazy. Oh my God. Thank you. Crown eaters rejoice. Let's start this conversation by talking about somebody else's misery besides Donovan's on this day. I think it's only right. If we start today,
Starting point is 00:02:31 by talking about these goddamn Houston Rockets. We're going to go over from talking about my misery to just, you're just upness. Yeah, but see, I'm up. I'm excited to see my team be up too O. That hasn't even been my focus in the past two days. I'm excited to see LeBron and Luke Kinnard and JJ Redick,
Starting point is 00:02:50 outsmart the shit out of my Emi Adoka and all this stuff. But that's clouded by my general, goddamn disgust for everything that is Houston sports right now. The Rockets are the epitome of embarrassment. The fact of this is, series has gone the way it is. He's in large part because the Lakers, they've earned these wins, and I'm very happy to see it.
Starting point is 00:03:05 But my God, is it in large part because the rockets are goddamn incompetent. I can't, I can't believe that we're here. Me neither. I love it. I can't believe it either. Game two, you're like, okay, you know what, KD's back. You can do something. Nine turnovers.
Starting point is 00:03:20 We're getting embarrassed. I bring Shangun at this point in time. Listen, the slander, slander that comes around these times of the year is, it's special. It's A5 Wagyu slander. You know, just it is every, everything that everybody has ever said negatively about Shingoon, you're proving them right. You are, you are making sure that every joke can 100% get off at this point. Peakslander. We hear. And he's played himself in these conversations, but this is the type of things we're talking about on Twitter. It's crazy. I don't know where to begin. I don't even
Starting point is 00:04:04 like ask somebody who's died of Shangoon. I don't even feel good about it because I'm like, why are you proving me so right? Get out there and get a bucket. Like it's so annoying. They had a 42% offensive reward percentage in this game, the highest in the playoffs. They did everything they wanted to do. They defended well. They did Houston Rockets basketball on the defensive end. Offensively, Kevin Durant came back like you said. We assumed that yes, game one, the Lakers showed that without Kevin Durant, JJ Redick was going to do a very smart defensive scheme that exposed a lack of shooting around them.
Starting point is 00:04:33 We knew that DeAndre Aden and LeBron James were perfectly big and strong enough to slow down Shangoon and not let him beat them alone with no spacing around him. But we said, okay, that's without Kevin Durant. That's a big difference. We've seen this team play this version without Steven Adams for a long time.
Starting point is 00:04:47 They're more competent they showed in game one, and Kevin Durant's presence should get them back to that level, right? It did absolutely nothing. It did absolutely nothing to get them back to competent. They looked just as bad offensively with Kevin Durant added. Like besides him getting his mid-range buckets off, like we knew he would. The process and the playmaking around Kevin Durant changed absolutely 0%. I have, we talked about it a little bit last time.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And then game two rode around. And I was thinking the same thing of like, yo, what do the Rockets do in practice? What is he making do on the whiteboard? Because I don't, I don't get it. their offense is so, it's so predictable, it's so in the mud, and it's, and there really is no engine. Like, KD at this point isn't going to be, he's not, he's not going to be leading your offense to, like, elite, elite offense. I think we understand he can fit anywhere, he can score, he can wake up any day of his life and get 27. But in terms of him initiating stuff and him
Starting point is 00:05:48 making sure that everything is, is flowing, that's not really going to happen. And we see that with the nine turnovers. And we've seen that a lot this year as they've tried to like tax him and put him on this on this pedestal. So then you go across the other to the other star that you have. You know, Shangoon, it's like, okay, can you be the one? Nope. To do to do something. Nope. Stop asking. Nope. And every, everybody else on this roster, like, you're, you're just not going to get enough from, you're not going to get enough creation from literally anybody else. And every other player outside of Shangooning and KD, the decisions that you're making in terms of defense
Starting point is 00:06:30 versus offense, it becomes so apparent at a point that they're down O2 right now. It's like looking at the Lakers roster, I still think, okay, Houston can get maybe two just looking at the roster. But then you look at how these games are playing out and it's like you guys are probably going to get beaten five. Exactly. Like, oh, I don't know what the series is going to.
Starting point is 00:06:51 to end up with. But if you watch these first two games, you would not think the Lakers are the ones that are down the fourth MVP voting player and another also level guard. You would not think that this is a team that is so downtroddened in talent-wise that the two guys are missing that most people didn't even consider talking about the series because it was like how could the Lakers possibly find victory against a real playoff team without their two best players or first and third best player depending on how you view LeBron right now. That hasn't been the case at all. The Rockets had a 74 offensive rating in the half court in this game. That was a first and a third would be the worst in the league in like 1980.
Starting point is 00:07:24 That is so unbelievably bad to be that bad of a half-court offense. It doesn't make sense. And again, shout out Jager Reddick. The way they've shut off the paint and made it so you're not going to beat us without those spacing. And we know if you're going to put spacing out there
Starting point is 00:07:35 or if you're going to try to put spacing out there, you're not going to have your best defensive players. And even then, those offensive slanted lineups, Reed Shepard hasn't been on shit. And it hasn't worked. Like the levers they have to go to that side and slant that way with Dore and Phenny Smith being completely unavailable to them
Starting point is 00:07:48 and not having that spacer that was supposed to be there to give them. they have no offensive looks that make even a little bit of sense. And then you look at the Lakers, completely revamped their style of play and completely empowered everybody else around them in lieu of having those two-star guards. The way we're putting the ball in Marcus Smart
Starting point is 00:08:04 and Luke Kinnar's hands and letting them cook because LeBron is a type of playmaker that can let everybody eat and kind of control the flow of the game and pick at mismatches with his passing, they're perfectly equipped to deal with this apparently. Do you think, so we've gone through so many ups and downs with JJ Reddick,
Starting point is 00:08:21 where in the time span that he's been the coach, he's been, like he came in and we're like, wow, JJ's doing really good. And then they've had laws. It's like, I don't really know what he's on right now. Scale 1 to 10, how excited or like how high are you on the JJ Reddy experience right now? 10. In terms of like faith and like 10, I have no doubt in Jay J. Redick.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I think he's a very good coach schematically. I think when we have downs on him, what do you point to? Because when I've had downs on him, it's mostly been learning curve stuff. In the same way a rookie player has to figure out. the NBA world and figure out what he can get away with dealing with the rookie wall and how much games to play and the physical side of that. All those things that come with being professional
Starting point is 00:08:59 outside of just your abilities. That's kind of how I view JJ Redick as a young coach. I never had doubt in his ability to understand offense or understand defense or like know what type of players you need and how to make use of them. It's been stuff that comes with time, learning how to not make galaxy brain decisions in the playoffs, like play LeBron for 48 minutes, shit like that.
Starting point is 00:09:16 The small stuff that comes with experience, that's always in my issue. And that obviously, like I said, comes with experience. So I've never really lost faith in him being a high-end coach. Yeah. So I said not to be like, oh, we, like we didn't have faith in. It's just very, very interesting to see him hitting his stride right now.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And then on the other side, he may. Like, if the Rockies lose this series, it's a fireball offense, I think. I think, I think it is, it is hasty. However, the moment you trade for Kevin Durant, I do think you, like, speed run every, other possibility that you have. Yeah. And the offense being this bad is a problem. And then whenever you go back and you, you look at what the offense was looking like
Starting point is 00:10:01 in Boston. And right now, the person who is most up is like 22 Tatum. Because we were getting on Tatum all the time and be like, yo, why are you taking these crazy shots at the end of the game? You're not because it's that. It was E-Mate's fault. It was not Jason Tatum's fault. It was E-Mate's fault.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And the drop coverage, two of it all. Oh, God. And we've seen multiple iterations of offense looking like this. And so having Kevin Ratt obviously is a plus. You have that type of talent. But it also is kind of like it's a good and bad thing for him specifically because he sees KD and he's like, oh, we're going to run my offense to a tee. This is exactly what I needed. And now they have no juice anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Be Souls. Has anybody in life ever benefited more from adultery than you getting Joe Mazzulah on your team? Like, you're up. Like everything works out for you in the end. It's give us and take it. His basketball team benefited from adultery. We'll see how his football team. I don't think he's going to be the same over there.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah, I don't. Who has benefited more? No, though. They'd be like Mike Rubin being fired and they have Ben Johnson waiting behind him. And they hired Ben Johnson to come and they went to, they went to championship. And he's just the best. Like the fact that Joe Bazila was waiting in the covers, just waiting to get an opportunity. And he's a genius.
Starting point is 00:11:17 It's unprecedented. Yeah, I can't think of anyone. It's like Pat Riley. That's how it happened to Pat Riley. It wasn't adultery. But Pat Riley was an assistant and they got hired like in the for the Lakers in the 80s. It's pretty much that. Because he couldn't stop going to brunch, man.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Sunday, Fund days is the kid. Sunday Fund days is the reason for future dynasty. So we know what we saw. We saw the Lakers play a different type of offense completely, playing through Liberman James. They're not asking him to go out there and shoulder a load blown by people. Though there was one possession in the third quarter I think it was where he sized up Jabari Smith and ISO and blew by him. And I was like, wow, that was 2020, LeBron. He has that in him like once a week.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He can run that fast exactly once a week, and he used it there. It was beautiful. Tears came to my eyes. But outside of that play, a lot of post work, a lot of controlling the game, a lot of running off ball actions around him, like he's Nicola Yokic and LeBron making all the right passes, getting the ball in specifically Marcus Smart in Luke Conard's hands and letting them be empowered to create. There's more creation from those guys in a way that you never saw them play with whenever they had Luca, because obviously the ball's in his hands.
Starting point is 00:12:19 So I think that's like a surprise. prize to teams. And it's a very like I said, everybody eats approach that you can't game plan for because you didn't go a whole season watching Marcus Smart Hoops in that way. And they've done a great job there. And everything you said about the Rockets and how dysfunctional they've been. Now, who's the most important player for each team? For the Rockets to get back in the series, who's the most important player that can get them there? And for Lakers to continue where they're doing and put the foot on the neck and win the series with this style of play, who's the most important player? For, okay, so for the Rockets, it's shingle. Like, you just have to have to play better.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Nobody else on this on this roster is going to take a leap year. The only one that's going to have the opportunity. Like if a men Thompson is going to be that guy, it's going to be next year. We're going to have to go through an offseason of development and all that. So Shingoon is the one where you are going to have to read all of the slander and all of the jokes that everybody is saying, lock in play better. So I think it's that for them. For the Lakers, probably Carnard. I think like if you know that knowing what Ron is as a score and the way that you want to
Starting point is 00:13:18 play. Either one of the guards, honestly, is, are, is like the most important player to have somebody else that can be a, a running mate for this, for this version of Ron to give you consistency. Luke Conard scoring 27 and 23 and him averaging 25 for this series, that's crazy. Yeah, that's wild to see. And people on Twitter are like, as Luke Conard has been misused his whole entire career? Does this pay credence to the statement that people make that there's too much talent in the league and these guys are being marginalized in the roles. That's why we need expansion because if Luke Conard had a bigger role this whole time, he'd be a different type of player, maybe. Or maybe we're just catching lightning in a bottle with a perfect time. And then J. J. J. Redick was the
Starting point is 00:13:58 exact type of motivator that got in his head and told him, shoot that goddamn ball. Ty Lou took you for years to pull the trigger. You wouldn't do it. Apparently, J.J. Redd had some white-boy connection that he'd still confidence in him and it's working. LeBron is still confidence him and is working. Whether it's sustainable or not, continuing this for two to five more games is vital. Shout out Luke, man. 23 and 27 points. Just a demon.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Just a demon. What a zeman. Yeah. Him. Also, we can push back. We don't need, we don't need to go to bat for Luke and our first option hoops over in 82.
Starting point is 00:14:28 It's more third option hoops. It's more like put the ball in his hands a little bit and not spot up shooter because he's white. That's what people are saying. Which I still push back on because like, I promise you, Tyloot tried. He just,
Starting point is 00:14:38 he wasn't with it. Tylood tried again to do a lot. He's been in the league for a decade. Like, it's closer to Linanity run than Revelation. Very rarely do people completely change or you find some wild gem a decade into somebody's career. And the fact that he's moved around a lot, a bunch of teams have tried to give him certain opportunities. But when I hit a hate on Luke Knar because he is ball and BS, I do think that he is the most important player for the Lakers over the next year. Beesles, we saw this coming.
Starting point is 00:15:06 You picked the Lakers. You're the only one that came up here and said the Lakers and win this round. Come on, man. Come on. Your point was Vintos LeBron Hoops. Roll the ball out. I got the go. Bro, I tweeted this out.
Starting point is 00:15:15 this playoffs is peak just roll the ball out and see what happens this is like yeah because i said it when we were doing our predictions i'm like logically everything we said made sense but i'm like yo we're picking no upsets something got to give yeah something got to give yeah and then there is always going to be an upset it's hard to predict which one it is and this being that is hilarious people were remember my mentions being like stop stop down talking to lakers have faith as a fan look what they're doing so have more faith you keep talking about it It's not the year, yada, yada. Bro, I cannot express to you how much this isn't about the Lakers in the grand scheme of things.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I'm happy they're overachieving. I'm very happier. I'm enjoying the hell of these games. I cannot express to you just how much this is about the Rockets being terminally ill in the brain as an organization. This is so much more about them being horrible. The fact that they're letting this happen to them and their offense is this bad against a team with this little talent in the Lakers. And again, every shout out to everybody. We shout it out, right?
Starting point is 00:16:10 J.J. Reddick, LeBron, all the guards are doing their thing. The Rockets deserve more slander that I can play. possibly imagine. I can't remember in the last five years, a team that if they lose a specific series deserves more slander from top down to every single player to every single decision maker, to the owner to everybody, the fact that they have these top draft picks, this young core, and they're this incapable creation-wise. Oh my God, everything about this team is disgusting. Yeah, it's a little surprising. I would say in terms of slander all around, um, 20, 23 sons. The suns that got swept.
Starting point is 00:16:45 by Minnesota in the first round. Ah, the first year they had Kevin Durant, Beal and. Yeah, that, that team specifically, because they were... The other KD team? Yeah. Which... Damn! Which...
Starting point is 00:16:58 Let's pod, right? Let's have discussions that we've basically been having for the last seven years. We're done with Katie? Been done. Been done. We've done. We've done. We've done.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It is interesting because I do think that the rocket's going out so sad like this. something has to change. You can't, you can't go into next season with this same core or this same idea of what we're going to run it back. It was tough.
Starting point is 00:17:26 The Fred Van Vleet and Steve Natham thing is real. But the other tough part is they could have had James Hardin on their team. Some people in the organization wanted James Hardin on their team when he was available and they opted not to get him because they had more faith in Fred Van Vleet.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And we can slander them for that and say that that maybe leads to us saying, okay, you got to make some changes. But I do want to say, Like the Fred Van Vleet and Stephen Adams thing is real. We talked all season that without those guys, the idea of this team completely fell apart. So I think we can slander them on their performance right now and say that despite that, they should still be doing better than this.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Despite that, they should still be able to beat this Lakers team. So that deserves slander. But in the grand scheme, anything is going to next year, we do need to have the cap out of. Fred Van Villeet and Steve Adams are all the difference in the world. Do you all think it's the way they sped up the process? Because the way I'm looking at it is like other teams when they speed up the process, their young core is still at the center of what they're building. So like the Thunder, the ad Caruso, they add IHard, but it's still SGA,
Starting point is 00:18:21 Chet, J-D. Even with like the Blazers, right, when they add a Drew Holliday, and still Denny at the center, is the problem with the rock is the fact that they specifically added KD? Because I think them adding Stephen Adams and Fred was, that was fine. To your point, I think part of that is the Young Corps creation-wise isn't ready to be the center of it in the same way that Shane J-D-WR. That's a problem.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And on the other part, it's just like, it's hard to even have an opinion about do they pick the right way to speed up when two or the three speed up players are gone. Yeah. So, yeah, it's easy to say, yeah, it was wrong whenever the, you don't have the tools that you decided to build. If, you know, you can say this if that foundation sucks, but if I don't have a hammer, I don't have wood, I don't really know what the house is going to look like regardless. And I'm not, I'm not going to knock them for going out and getting Kevin Nurt because Jaylon Green wasn't the guy. And so it's like you move on, you swap Jaylon Green and Kevin Nore. Obviously, trade Dylan Brooks and everything. fine. The Van Bleet and the reason why I'm like you can't come back, we've been doing so much work
Starting point is 00:19:18 over the last month talking about small guards, aging, this and that. Fred Van Bleet is going to be 33 at six feet tall coming off of an ACL injury. I think if you are expecting, who already wasn't some crazy athletic point guard, him coming back, if you think that that instantly is just going to be 100% and that is the missing key, I do think that that, that, that, you think that is irresponsible. Sure, sure. If you think that, so from that standpoint, I think, I think it's all. I think it's fair.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I think it's fair to question, is he going to be the point guard answer next year? But they're clearly, the answer is a point guard. And he would have been that this year, I think. So, yeah, if you're saying they need to change things up and that's get a new point guard, that's not preventively cool. But I don't think they need to abandon the vision of this young core plus Kevin Durant plus point guard. Because that plus point guard, all difference in the world.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Like having Fred and Vindley or even having someone less. to their infidvent fleet, that is just a good enough passer, organizer of offense, that would be a difference than them winning and losing the series. The Ching-Goon piece of all this is tough. Yeah, I can't believe we ranked him
Starting point is 00:20:23 in the top 20 on Christmas. I think we need to be publicly stoned for that. How dare we, how next year when we do our Christmas rankings, I always say this. We need to not do this, but we will every time. We cannot react to an early season shooting leap.
Starting point is 00:20:35 We need to be done with shooting leaps in October. Okay. We say that and then we fall for it. It's tough. because we don't have a set guideline of what's early season, what's midseason, what's late season. What is the game, what's the game mark that we're going to follow? I don't know. That's hard because we rank on Christmas.
Starting point is 00:20:56 So it's a tough amount of time, right? I'll say if a player sucks at shooting and they're in year four or later and they're good at shooting in October, November, I will not fall for it. So if it's a you've gone three to four years sucking shit at this skill and all of a sudden you're goaded at it, I'm not going to believe it. as far as our Christmas rankings go because this happened this happened several times with several different players and I look back
Starting point is 00:21:17 to that. It was Shingoon or Scotty Yes There's been a few I can't remember on top of my head Lesser dramatic swings But they're higher than they should be Because of that at that time of the year Like Michael Porter Jr.
Starting point is 00:21:27 We were like he's a conversation for 40 Then he slowed down like It's hard to predict that And also that was like a fun pick So maybe Michael Porter Jr. isn't the right choice there But Shangoon is nowhere close Top 20 player And for every year of his career
Starting point is 00:21:38 PGM all 13 Yeah yeah you'll listen Dylan Brooks made a lot shots earlier in the year, and you were like, player development in Phoenix is on top of the world. Listen, also, we could talk about them because Dylan Brooks is actually out here who's been giving his all for the team.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Salute, salute. Nobody else is out here doing it. Before we finish it. Doing it like Dylan Brooks is doing it. Before we finish in Goon conversation, is he the worst multi-time All-Star the last 30 years? You've been trying to get this off for like three weeks now. Can you think of a word multi-time all-star?
Starting point is 00:22:07 I feel like once a week, you'll say it to us like in person. and then we'll go home and you text it again he really is the worst multi-time all-star like think about it is there a worst player
Starting point is 00:22:18 in the last 30 years that is a cornerstone of a team and has made two straight all-star appearances all the other Fugazi all-stars made one like Norm Powell just made this year
Starting point is 00:22:25 Deilo made one Goroan Drosic was an alternate he made one all the guys you'd point to as being the like I was like cute all-star year but he's not like that level player consistently
Starting point is 00:22:32 they didn't go back to back he made it again this year is he the worst I mean I feel like think about it it's tough I look through the history history of the All-Star game. He's probably the worst
Starting point is 00:22:42 multi-time All-Star last 30 years. Al-Horford? I can't believe you would say it to me. As a Celtics fan, you think Sengu is better than Al-Horford? Wait, no, I'm thinking about Al-L-Horford. Atlanta, Al-Horfer, smoke Shangoon. Okay. I'm just thinking of names. I'm just thinking of names. Yeah, I would pick him in a heartbeat. I love role player Al-Horford, but Star, eh. Man, probably
Starting point is 00:23:04 the 2015 Hawks happened. Yeah. Sang-goo's not leading the team to 60 somewhere. wins. 60 wins? That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah. So yeah, I think the single thing, like, I just, I will never allow an early shooting season leap to make me convince myself that he's a, like, top tier player. Like, he's good. He's not like, can't have on your team or anything, but he's not a franchise building block to me. But the way, his style of play, the fact that he's a bruiser post-core big that's never been efficient at the rim a single time in his
Starting point is 00:23:31 career, never been an efficient three-point shooter a single time in his career, never been a plus defender a single time in his career. Those are three deficiencies you cannot overcome. there. And again, when the three-point shooting one looked like he overcame it, it was like, okay, you can have two of those three weaknesses, but all three you cannot overcome. Which is why the combination of Fred coming back from his situation,
Starting point is 00:23:53 feeling the way that we feel about shangoon right now, and feeling the way that we feel about EMA right now, if you think about whatever core, that's three out of the five in terms of a man also being a part of that core, and then KD, that we feel very, very down on And then KD, he's just in the air. He's just in the ether.
Starting point is 00:24:13 We know exactly, you know, what Katie is going to do. So that's why I do think that you do have to, you do have to make some kind of change if you're them. And I don't know what it is right now. We'll see what's available. But they, something has to be on the way. You can't run this back. Real quick.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Keep one cut one. Paolo or Sengu. But I'm taking Palo a million times over Shingun. Okay. The Palo conversation has never been. will he be a good player or will he be someone you can start? It's always been he's going to be a top 10 player. And that's like that doubt of superstar potential is there.
Starting point is 00:24:45 But the idea of like mid-tier all-star palo has always been the floor, I think. And some people have been like, you've got to trade them. I don't think any of us have ever said palo is going to be bad. Yeah. Shangoon's bad right now. Like it's a different tier. Shangoon is actively bad at this moment. I will say I'm feeling a lot more pressure for a men to develop now.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Because I feel like a lot of us were out on Sengun being like that future superstar for them. Jabari, we out on that too. It's role player. Yeah, Jalen Green, obviously, we know the verdict on that. Amen, you better figure it out. I ain't going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm losing some faith in Reed Shepard, too.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I didn't even mention him for a reason. I'm losing some faith in Reed Shepard in a lot of ways. Yeah. What a Young Corps? What is that, four top five draft picks? Or three top five draft picks, then Shingoon was a late around steel? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Yes, he's still like part of the Young Cor. I don't even feel, it's not even fair to put Jabbar. and in that thing because that's a crazy insult no because like he's not like he's not elevating to be like to be like a superstar jabari is what jabari's going to be and he's he's really good i like jabari smith he's he's awesome he'd be a great laker next to luka i'd love to see jabari smith on my team he can fit he can fit with any team bro we can fix these lemons these lemons these lemons to all together is too many people that can't do one thing but they're they all do the exact thing i want next to luka
Starting point is 00:26:04 so give me tar he'sin we can fix them yeah how it is jabari he's like 23? Yeah, maybe. I'd be 22. He's 22. Yeah, he's 22. He was in the Vick draft. Yeah, he's chilling.
Starting point is 00:26:14 He's in the Pallow draft. Amen was the Vick draft. Oh, yeah. Yeah, most important player, Shengoon, most important player for the Lakers, Luke Kinnard, awesome reason why come back in Game 5.
Starting point is 00:26:25 That's the latest support for Shams. They're going to beat him by 50. We'll see. Again, they play the Thunder next round. So I can't get too much excitement, but it's very fun to see Rocket Slander at the hand of one J.J. Reddick and Lebron
Starting point is 00:26:38 James. If you beat the Rockets and you send him home and LeBron gets one last playoff series win where he gets to embarrass people, that's really all you guys for. I'm happy with it. I'm happy with it. Next series, what should we do next? Let's have Dylan Brooks talk, man. You love Dylan Brooks again.
Starting point is 00:27:00 It's a fast one. Let's have some Dylan Brooks. OKC versus Sons, Beesoles. Pull up all the tweets of all that stuff that Devin Booker was saying last night. All right. Okay, see, two and O, only two and no series right now. She had a stinkering game one in terms of shooting from the field. Game two came out, lit them up.
Starting point is 00:27:16 The story of this game, obviously, with all the injuries and the lack of size, the sons have no chance in the series. Nobody has, nobody cares about the outcome. The story of this game was Dylan Brooks talking before and after about everything, saying, I want to Isay, him holding up his end of the bargain, talking a lot of shit, and then Devin Booker being upset about the officiating. How did you feel about all that? I mean, I feel like everybody, everybody who plays the Thunder,
Starting point is 00:27:37 gets to a point where they get beat by 30, then they get on the press conference, and they're like, yo, the officiating was trash. Yeah. And for Devin Booker, I get it. He's fed up. He said it's definitely something that has to be looked at. I heard Caruso tell them to call the tech,
Starting point is 00:27:57 and he ended up doing it in my 11 years. I haven't called out a ref by name, but James Williams was terrible tonight, through and through. It's bad for the sport, bad for the integrity of the sport. people are going to start viewing this as the WWE if they're not held responsible That's tough
Starting point is 00:28:13 And it This is also like the again The existential crisis that the thunder put a lot of people into Where you start questioning the integrity of the league But to his credit There was some flopper there was some bad calls There was there was some bad calls And there was some flopping going on last night
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah also by Def and Booker Which is the funny part is he also has become a flailer As he gotten older so I early in I think it was the second quarter I texted our group chat, I said, you know, Devin Booker is crying tonight. Every call is upset with the rest. That was before the technical foul.
Starting point is 00:28:42 That obviously was like the trigger of this conversation. That shouldn't have been technical foul. Devin Booker got hosed there. But the whole game, he was crying. And it was like Luca stuff where he's complaining nonstop, but without the 30 point triple double. So like he was like, it was getting in his head clearly and it was hurting his play.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I was like, you know, he needs to lock in because if he's going to get in this mental battle with the rest and be this upset, like the whole team's going to be off tilt the whole time. And you saw it. It came into these conversations. And from the jump of the game, the thunder were in his head and the rest were in his head. And not to say it's right or wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:11 If every team says the thunder get away with a lot, I'm sure they do. The WWE stuff was a bit much. I think you're doing a lot there as a player on the stand. I think you're being a bit dramatic. But like I said, everybody says they get away with beating the shit out of me. They probably do. He has to. He can't let he get to the point, though, where you're taking 14 shots.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah. Dylan Brooks took 23. Dylan Brooks is out here. He's like, I don't care. what's going on. I'm going to say stuff before the game. I'm going to say stuff after the game. In between the lines, I'm going to empty the clip.
Starting point is 00:29:43 You're even getting and empty the clip. None of the shots are hitting. But Jalen Green is doing the same thing. Jaylen Green had 23 shots last night too. Devin Booker was just 14 shot attempts, had mad turnovers. They're getting killed by OKC's pressure. And so you see the frustration just all around.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Yeah. And I, obviously, you're right. The WWE stuff was a little bit much. It is funny though. Yeah, no, it's justified. It's funny. It's funny also coming from We Don't Double and Half Court Open Jim's guy.
Starting point is 00:30:13 The fact that he hasn't. He's never going to live that down. He's never going to live it down. And I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm sure there's, it wasn't a good day for the calls going his way in terms of like every game. There's bad and good calls for every team.
Starting point is 00:30:24 The Sun's probably got the short end of that stick today. So I understand it. Man, can't let it get you off tilt that much. As a Star player, it's tough. What's up with a D-Book not being like an empty-de-clip guy anymore, though? first step isn't the same. If you double team,
Starting point is 00:30:37 you can't, like, get by people. That's so tough. I think the simplistic version. And, you know, like, especially against OKC defense, it's really easy to just double him and make Colin Gillespie
Starting point is 00:30:47 and Dylan Brooks shoot every time. Like, he's not going to throw some crazy dimes to make you stop doing that. Like, you would stop against, like Yokch or whatever. And he's not going to be this athletic force that gets by double teams, like a Shea or an aunt.
Starting point is 00:30:58 So kind of has to make the right read. And it works out. He's, I hit that. Does he have 30 points this game? No, he had 22. Oh, my bad. I was looking at the wrong box score. game all things considered made the right play get the ball moving yeah book book got two
Starting point is 00:31:09 two dillen brooks had 30 okay i got it mixed up so i think all season diven booker has done a solid job of making those right decisions keeping the ball moving and like being an engine of an offense but in terms of volume scoring it's tough with his team construction and his physical abilities yeah also the three is not falling he was o for three from from downtown last night story the last two years that's that's also a problem where like it's devon booker and so people are are going to him a certain way he is going to get that respect. But it is something where in game, hey man, you're going to have to knock these down.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And he hasn't been knocking them. Yeah. He's developing. I didn't expect it to be like this. I always thought kind of some, because him and Donovan Mitchell have been like neck and neck for a bunch of years. Feels like there's a separation this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Like coming out of college, one of his main traits was three point shooting. Now his three point shooting is falling off. I always thought he was going to be one of the best volume scores in the league. volumes falling off. I don't know. He's just an interesting guy to watch. Yeah, I think you see this a lot when you look at star players and passion iterations. There's always guys who had a crazy peak and then like for health reasons, for team reasons, whatever may be, it doesn't turn into 10 year Hall of Fame career for everybody. And Devin Booker just have good longevity. So I'm not saying he's not Gilbertorienist, you know, but there's guys that for a reason happened. And it is
Starting point is 00:32:30 when we're watching them in our moment and these guys are young guys, we assume they're going to be, oh, Devin Booker's sitting on top of the league, top 10 player for 10 years, right? then a lot of injuries rack up the three point shooting falls off for whatever reason that happens a lot your form changes over time and you just kind of lose that yeah
Starting point is 00:32:43 this happens across history where some guys you don't expect just have careers that are a little weird yeah kind of Deer and Fox now in some ways it's kind of what I figure man every generation gotta have a microred I guess this generation's a microred yeah again when he's next to Chris Paul
Starting point is 00:32:58 and his perfect team construction he can be that volume score and give it to you but when you're asking him to do a little more on ball be a little more physical force with less help not everything's one to one where you're like top 10 level player can do this in any situation he needs a certain type of construction yeah it's also a little bit a little bit throwback because he is like he's been in the league for 10 years he's approaching 30 this is kind of the career art that i was much more
Starting point is 00:33:23 accustomed to for a long time yeah not everybody's gonna have crazy longevity at 35 like james hardin and kemp and yeah like once you start getting to 30 30 30 31 32 then you kind of see we're on the very, like, end of, end of your prime. You're not the same person that you were a couple years ago. And I've been saying for so long, LeBron, Tom Brady, Steph, they have tricked everybody into thinking what the, what the standards should be in terms of longevity. That's literally not the, not the case for 99.9% of athletes across the world. So him being 30 and starting to slow down and we're starting to see a little bit of cracks,
Starting point is 00:34:02 it makes sense. It makes total sense. And even if modern medicine, has made the average prime longer. Averages are averages for reason because there's less and there's longer. Like, there's going to be variation there and everybody's body is different. Everybody's skills are different and how they age in ancillary ways. So it kind of is what it is.
Starting point is 00:34:18 A lot of basketball on his knees. Yeah. People are saying the same thing about Luca before this march stretch. So you never know. And for all those reasons, because of the decline, that's why Dylan Brooks is the most important person on the Phoenix for the series. And then for the Thunder, it's Jalen Williams. Pull up the tweets.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Jaylon Williams suffered a left hamstring irritation injury. We don't know exactly what is going to be yet. According to this, April 23rd at 9.57 a.m. We haven't had the medical diagnoses yet, but he dealt with two right hamstring injuries in the regular season. One got reagravated after the initial one. He played 33 games, I think it was, because of those. Now another one comes.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And it's not an exaggeration to say this might be the one single play that completely shifts the championship odds if we get a bad diagnosis in the coming hours. If it's day-to-day, just a hamstring tightness, cool. he can set out the rest of the series and be fine. But when we get to the Western Conference finals and into the finals,
Starting point is 00:35:09 when you got to go through the Spurs or the Nuggets, then obviously the Celtics or the Pistons or whoever else comes out of the East, you need Jalen Williams. And if it's a hamstring thing that continues to fuck him up and you don't get a great run out of him, this significantly changes the championship odds.
Starting point is 00:35:20 You're talking, you're talking Spurs, Nuggets, Celtics, skipped over the Lakers in the next round. You can get got. You can get got. Luca comes back from the hamstring. As you lose Jalen Williams, Austin Reeves is back. You say that. What's the first word you said there?
Starting point is 00:35:39 Luca comes back from the hamstring injury. You think this tweet right here makes me excited to see Luca rush back from a hamstring injury? He's had, so he's had obviously like the hamstring stuff on the entire year. It's the one during the season was the right hamstring. It was the left hamstring yesterday. It might be a situation where you were overcompetiting for one and then the other one comes back. But I'm not sure just because they were so because the Thunder. were so good throughout the year,
Starting point is 00:36:03 they were very, very careful about how he was recovering it and making sure that he was 100%. But it is, it is kind of wild. Now, I think that they can still win the, I think they could still win the West, even without Jalen Williams.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Because I think that as a defense that we're seeing right now, and obviously it's the Suns and it's a different, like, level of team, but you still see whenever the Thunder are at their best defensively, there's nobody who can really rock with them. And offensively, the way Chet has been playing is very, very encouraging.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And I like seeing the aggressiveness from him. And A.J. Mitchell, his presence. Yeah. That combination of Chet, Shea, and then you have the full surrounding cast of your A.J. Mitchell's, we can see potentially Jeremy Kane get back into the rotation, him hit a couple threes, we'll see if Isaiah Joe can be more consistent and have like good game after good game. They can do a lot of things and still go far. But I think I feel really good just because of how Chet has played.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And I've seen a little bit more. The scoring numbers haven't been as gaudy as the conversation that we were having early in the year. It's like, you got to look like, you know, I personally would like a little bit, you know, 20, 23, whatever. They haven't been crazy. Talking about Chet. Yeah. They haven't been crazy. But the ways in which he is attacking from, you know, in the, in the paint as a shooter,
Starting point is 00:37:40 taking advantage of mismatches, I do like that a lot from Chet. So I feel decent about the Thunder, even if Jalen Williams has to miss a week or two, maybe even three. Yeah, they can still win the championship without him. Like, with the way the teams are set up now, that the lack of other perfect contenders, they can still win without him. They've shown that they have that floor that's high enough that you can still beat anybody. but it shifts from like I'm very confident
Starting point is 00:38:02 to win the championship to hey man the Celtics are very equipped to beat you and you need all the ammo you can get so just you know makes it more stressful
Starting point is 00:38:10 than you'd like to see especially at this point where it's not related to the right hamstring so it's not like it's going to continue to reagravate in a super serious way
Starting point is 00:38:16 but it is still a hamstring injury so let's say he misses two weeks and he comes back before the conference finals and we're like he's there but now we're going to worry about the other side of your leg and you re-enduring that again
Starting point is 00:38:25 and that's going to be tricky so terrible timing for the injuries for all the reasons we talk about Reeves Luca that you don't want a soft tissue injury that can get reagravated at this time, even worse timing now that we're in the playoffs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I just think that Thunder are really, really, really lucky. The SGA is insanely consistent. My concern with these injuries, though, is like the margin of error for SGA gets smaller and smaller with the more injuries. And again, as we talked about the later, the rounds go, you know, smarter and smarter defenses. Smarter and smarter defense. And we saw last year they went seven because coaches like Adelman, a lot of gap help
Starting point is 00:38:58 said you're not going to drive on us, you're going to take tough middies and pass the ball. You pass the ball one help away. Lou Dort misses a lot of threes. Passes the ball to the corner. Case in Wallace misses a lot of threes. Having one less skilled offensive player makes that more and more possible that you get pushed later than you should because of shooting around shake crumbles. Yeah. They better not let Dylan Brooks get hot at home.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Oh my God. You fucking love Dylan Brooks. He's scoring 30. He's the only one out here actually going out and really, again, putting his life on the line. He's ready to die about this series. And I like that. I appreciate that. I think Beesles is having too good of a time right now.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah, we can talk. Yeah, what are you going to say to answer for Derek White? What are you going to say to answer for that defense and how Vijay Edgecombe and Tyrese Maxie turned him around? Listen, man. He was orcumming on you. He winked into the camera. A rookie.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And man, did he oarform? That shit was through the roof. That's what you put in the top. I don't think I can pull it. That was insane. Yeah. 70s six to state game too. How do you feel seeing the same?
Starting point is 00:39:59 Celtics be 1-1. Like I said, when we were doing our predictions, the Celtics like to keep it interesting. They do. They like to tell. The Celtics like to play with their food. And I'm really hoping that this is just their play with their food game. Don't want to split the home games. This was, it looks like the horrible shooting night that I was expecting from them. They shot like, what, 23, 24% of a really low percentage. Yeah, Derek White is concerning, though. Yeah. Insanely concerning. He's insanely concerning. He's been bad from three throughout the whole season over the last 10 games. He's averaging like 10 points or 8 points, something like that. And yeah, it really showed this last game. I truly
Starting point is 00:40:42 think if just, if Derek White had an average game, we would have won that game. We've been asking for him to have average games throughout the whole season offensively and three-point shooting wide. He just hasn't showed up. So I am getting concerned with them. Boston Celtics, half-court offense, 86.5 offensive rating Philadelphia said New Sixers, half-court offense, 118 offensive rating. In the half-court, they got completely decimated on both ends.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah. Short answer, it is a bad shooting game. We've seen the Celtics for so long in the Joe Missoula era. They will live and die by the three. And when you do that, you're going to die sometimes and their bet is that we win
Starting point is 00:41:15 or we live four times at a seven every single time. And it's a good bet. You're going to get games like this. I think the 76ers did a much better job than they did in game one, overall dealing with
Starting point is 00:41:25 everything the Celtics want to do. I think, you know, the Celtics famously do with these very, creative switches where they get into a pick and roll action and instead of switching a straight up, they'll do like a three-person switch where the guy that's trailing the ball runs out to the nearest shooter and they kind of rotate the three-man way. Selfics did a, I mean, the sexers did a much better job of dealing with that. They did a much better job defensively and not just allowing
Starting point is 00:41:44 the spacing of the Celtics to be whatever they want and give them just free lanes to the rim every time. Much better gap help, much more disciplined on both sides of the ball. Shout out Vijay Edgecom and Tyre's Maxie making it a series. Yeah. Vijay, do it again though. Most important player in this is VJ Edgecombe. He will. He will. He will do it again. Also, Audrey Drummond, one of one from three.
Starting point is 00:42:06 100%. 100%. He's one for two for the series. Like I said, I needed three, three-pointers from Andre Drummond. He's on the way. He's taking one in game, so better watch out. Between Audrey Drummond and Vijay Edgecombe, you're going home, buddy. Big drum man coming from here.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Also, I was thinking like, he's huge now. He's a gigantic man. Drummond? He's gigantic. Yeah, so VJerman. I think is the most important player in the series for the Sixers. I think, actually, no, I'll replace that. Tyree Smacksy is the most important player in this series of the Sixers.
Starting point is 00:42:36 First time he's dealing with being the first option in the playoff series in this regard, 38% usage in this game. That's outlandish. That's extremely high, right? In the first game, I think we saw him have an expected performance when Joe Mazula and Derek White and all those defenders on the other side of you and your first time dealing with this type of pressure in the playoff environments, it was hit or miss. And in this game, he did a much better job, especially in the same.
Starting point is 00:42:58 second half, ended up 11 for 28 from the field, five for 12 and three. It's a high volume of threes, 29 points, nine assists. Those nine assists are how these games are going to be dictated, I think. His ability to handle the pressure and be a true table setting point guard, which isn't like a natural high-level instinct of his. He's grown into it and worked hard to get there, and I think he's done a fantastic job. But doing that for the high minutes he plays, 40 minutes in this game, that'll dictate how many of these high-level games we get that they can upset the Celtics. I feel I'm gonna stick on on VJCcom being the most important player though okay 30 10 and 2 in this game because I think that Tyrese
Starting point is 00:43:33 He was insanely clutched in game two knocking down timing threes and like they they need his shooting Very very badly because as a team like they're not an amazing three-point shooting team and you've you sell the the variance of What it what they normally are in game one and then just missing all these threes and then when the threes were actually falling. Everything felt just a little bit more in place. But Tyrese is playing, he's playing 40, you know, 40 minutes a night. We know the amount of energy that he's, that he's going to bring. His efficiency, I don't even care about, like he can't be atrocious, like he can't shoot like 20%, but for him to be, you know, 40%. It is what it is. You just have to get us to a baseline level of points. I think that Vijay and him giving,
Starting point is 00:44:24 Tyrese, an actual running mate, and allowing Paul George to just be Paul George at this point, allowing Kelly Ubre and Kelly Ubre and, you know, going two for six. That's not going to sink you in the same way as it would if VJ.H. Combe is only scoring like 11. Now, that's a lot of pressure to put on a rookie to basically come out here and say against one of the smartest coaches, against one of the most talented teams in the league. I'm going to need you to average 27 in your first playoff series. That's a lot of pressure. However, you're the seventh seed,
Starting point is 00:44:56 and that's just what it's going to take. Yeah. That's the position that you guys are in. You guys are trying to beat the second seed out east. You're going to have to play, like, crazy for two weeks. And we've seen moments like this from Vijay H-HCom all year long. Specifically against the Celtics. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Of him, of him finding success, him and his shot going down. And even when the shot's not falling, I think Vijay has done a very, very good job of being impactful in other areas, he's going to have to be like 27, 5, and 4 for the 6th for the 6th to win this series. And like I said, it's hard. Do it again. Yeah, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And it's unfair. That's just the situation that we're in, especially if Embed is not walking through these doors. Yeah. Payne Pritchard. Two for eight from the field. Celtics fans think he just, he's a bad team merchant.
Starting point is 00:45:51 That's been a narrative. in Celtics fandom Well, you know in the playoffs You play on the good team I know Absolutely You said notice I haven't glazed
Starting point is 00:46:02 Pate and Pritchard Yes, yes Oh half-court buzzer beaders Good job So between Between Peyton Pritchard And Derek White How are you feeling about
Starting point is 00:46:13 Your like Eastern Conference title run? And who's the most important player On this team So we didn't I don't think we fully answer their question I'm assuming that's one of them Who do you point to? I think
Starting point is 00:46:21 think it's Derek White. I still think it's Derek White. Obviously, like, there's a lot of pressure for Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown to deliver. But if Derek White doesn't show up and he consistently takes 10 threes a night and only makes two. Yeah. Yeah, that's horrible. That's horrible. So the Donovan's question, if those two are going to play, a little subpar shooting wise, are you worried? Yes. Okay. Absolutely. I'm definitely worried. Okay. I see fear in his eye. Yeah. It's PTSD. It's trauma. throughout the years. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Again, like I said, you like to keep it interested for no fucking reason, man. And I love to see it for obvious fucking reasons. Yeah. Next up, let's talk about
Starting point is 00:47:02 the Denver Nuggets versus Minnesota Timberwolves Game 2. This is one series that most people who I think across media, across fandom,
Starting point is 00:47:09 agreed. This is going to be one of the most interesting fun series in the first round. Like we said, for the past two weeks, teams have gone to war.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Twice. Here's version three. Game one, the Nuggets took care of business in a way I think you'd expect given these teams who they wore in the regular season. Come up here, I said, okay, like I said before the series,
Starting point is 00:47:26 I don't have a, I don't have a problem where I'm not scared to pick the nuggets. I said it's going to be a hard fought, tough series, but I have like, no doubt in my pick of the nuggets. I'm not like, oh, it can go either way. I feel good about this version of Nuggets, being able to take care of business, not being hurt by the Timber Bowles, like the same way they have been in the past. The double big thing isn't there to upset Yokic. We know that he's good against Gober.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Typically, you can fry him one-on-one. The double big stuff is what got him. I think Jamal Murray has been good enough. I'm not worried about him. throwing up a stinker like he did two years ago. Feel good about the Nuggets. Game one validated that. Game two.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Riegobert locked Yokh, the fuck up. Locked his ass up one-on-one. Late game, fourth quarter. Yokish was in a straight jacket. Defensively, whatever the version of being in a straight jacket is defensively, Yokch found it. He found a way to get attacked left and right. They exposed him on both sides of the ball in game two
Starting point is 00:48:15 and found victory in a way that was different than how they beat them two years ago. But, man, they were picking on Yokic. it's only been two games Rudy Goberra might be turning me into a fan What? Hey man he's been hooper After all these years
Starting point is 00:48:30 I have to give him credit Rudy's been hooping man He has been doing absolutely everything And the level to which A little bit is like You know what I'm proud of Rudy Because this man has been frying you for years
Starting point is 00:48:47 And you're out here standing up Holding it down And I think the for for him to to play at this level and and really really put up a great fight and do something that not a lot of people have done really nobody has done against against yokech in terms of like a one-on-one situation him to be able to provide that for for minnesota the consistency that he's that he's given their defense and it does it does so much and then whenever you have a solid julius randall game whenever you have a solid jadem and daniel's games that obviously
Starting point is 00:49:21 aunt goes for 30 mind you we said what was the sat line he had to get 32 and 8 yeah he had 30 and 10 that these are these are the types of games that they're going to need from from from from from gobert because their inconsistency overall is something that they have to fight against but i i do think that the the nuggets as much as i did think that they were better and i did pick the nuggets in the series, I did think that there were ways for Minnesota to get games in this in this series. And game two was just a prime example of it. And then now, now that you have certain injuries popping up moving forward, are the nuggets going to revert back to some of the low points that we saw from them in the, in the regular season?
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah. Where the defense completely collapses. And now Minnesota at 1-1 with home court advantage can go in and actually get the series. I think it's possible now. Yeah, I think the Nuggets are obviously an extremely interesting team right now. When we did our power rankings, we talked about them in the entire second half of the season, I made it clear that I don't view them in the same tier as OKC, the Spurs, or the Celtics. Those teams are the three teams. I think one of them will win the championship. Now that the Nuggets have a chance.
Starting point is 00:50:34 They don't have a 0% chance to win the championship. They've been there before. They have Yokic. We know what they can do. So they're the fourth best team in the league to me, but it's like an outside fourth. And that's because their defense, all season they told us that we have no hope of defending the rim. All season they told us that we will not be an effective defense. If you expect us to just snap our fucking fingers and flip the switch because we've been there before,
Starting point is 00:50:52 that is naive. We don't just magically get good at things that we're bad at just because the calendar changes. Not every team is like that. And in this game, Minnesota shot 41% of the shots at the rim. That's incredible. Denver Nuggets for only 32% of the shots at the rim. So they got there nonstop. They exposed the Yokish weeks had help.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Yokish defense has been as roughs it's ever been in the second half of the season post-injury. And the offense, the scoring in times one-on-one has also been a little iffy post-injuries in the second half of the season. And this game, you saw both of those weaknesses come to. bite them. They won on both, they lost on both sides of the ball because Yokic, like pretty explicitly. You can't really predict that. You're not going to see that coming most times that Yokch is the reason. Now I say the reason. He's still the reason they're in the game. But, you know, as far as a star player, the accountability that comes with being a star player, Yokish was the reason they lost
Starting point is 00:51:36 on both sides of the court. You don't often see that. You have the aspect. You have his defense was just falling off. You have his three-point shot, which has fallen off. Exactly. And for this, for this team where Cam Johnson has obviously played better but also has been inconsistent in this year. Aaron Gordon, who's turned into a bucket, he was won for four in game two. Yoko's just three-point shot and his ability to shoot 40% from three. It gives the nuggets a baseline from three-point volume and that combination of him and Jamal Murray. If that's not there, if he's going one for seven and he's a cone at the at the rim,
Starting point is 00:52:13 that's a problem. If we're going to talk about the most important player, it probably is. probably is Yokic. Yep. It's either, for me, it's either Yokich or Aaron Gordon. But Yokic has to be at
Starting point is 00:52:28 a certain standard and it's not there right now. Yeah, this team, this version of the team needs Yokch to be best playing the world level. And I picked him in this series with very much confidence because I believe he can. And I believe these games would all be close
Starting point is 00:52:40 because I think neither team has any hope in the world of guarding each other. But come fourth quarter, I'm going to believe in the Nuggets offense. That's been ludicrous second half of the season to out, to get the Timberwolves.
Starting point is 00:52:49 In this game, they did not because Riego-Barre, like I said, locked Yokic the fuck up. I don't expect that to happen four times out of seven, so I'll still roll with them to win and six. You got to lose, so it's not like it's the end of the world. But there's noticing going on. There's major noticing going on right now. I do, I do want to ask y'all,
Starting point is 00:53:05 how do y'all feel about this Jada McDaniels quote? Jada McDaniels? Deadpan delivery on what worked for the Timberwolves offensively. Go at Yokic, Jamal, all the bad defenders, Tim Hardaway, Cam Johnson, Aaron Gordon, their whole team. Reporter. They're all bad defenders?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Yeah, they're all bad defenders. Real, man. Shout to, shout to Jada McDaniels. They played, what's the number? 30 times? 31 times in the last couple years. Damn. You know that you don't like them.
Starting point is 00:53:40 You look around, you see food, is what it is. Yeah. And Aaron Gordon's a good name to point out. And deal with a lot of hamstring injuries. Is he still 100% the same the way he moves? He'll need to be because defensively, he's not wrong to point out a lot of these defenders not being special. Aaron Gordon has to be the defensive specialist there,
Starting point is 00:53:55 and that's kind of been why you've seen them be so scary in recent years. And why that was a big crux of why I thought this year would be different. Two years ago when they played Aaron Gordon wasn't a 40% three-point shooter. He was the best version of himself last year in the playoffs, and he's been dealing with injuries all year. That's a big difference to me in the matchups, especially when the Timberwolves have less size than they had last time they played. Aaron Gordon has to be lockup.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I don't know that he was in this game. The defense question, two for nine from three in the series so far right now, that's a problem. For somebody who is 39, 40 percent from three to now shoot 22 percent, it's a big drop off. That's a big issue. Noticing. Are we flipping the predictions for the series? No. No.
Starting point is 00:54:37 But noticing. I mean, I said Nuggets and six, if you tell me it goes seven, okay, I was wrong there. So I'm fully open to going a little more close than I expected. Yeah. I'm still on Nuggets and 7 just because Minnesota, even though like Yokic is not playing as well as it is, I trust Yokic to have a better, a better series overall than the combination of McDaniels
Starting point is 00:55:01 and who's a little bit hurt, Julius Randall who's inconsistent. I think the Nuggets have just a little bit more depth and cohesiveness. Rudy Gaubert had two points in this game. Those two points are him dunking on Yolkits. That's pretty funny. All he did was posterized Yonkits in this game. And lock him up.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Just out there, a man on the mission, pure Bedwallis game. Don't ask me, don't even throw me the ball. All I'm going to do is lockup. I've been asking for that for years. He's been giving you that for years. And I'll go lie. No, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:55:34 We know what it is. This time it was one-on-one in the post and not weak side. And that makes you respect him more because you're like, yeah, you'd be a bigger man than him. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:42 We're getting some old-fashioned clampups this playoffs, man. I like it, man. Drainmont on Kauai. Is that not fun? Yeah, it is. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It is. It's the defensive equivalent to roll the ball out. Yeah. And go get a stop. I don't want to hear about weeks I'll rotate. I don't want to hear about job coverage. You put that four-on bar on his back and you get a stop, Rudy, and you go out and you do that. And I like that.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I respect that. That's the funniest part is he might be the goat and all that small shit, all the team defense stuff. drop cover stuff in the modern NBA he might be the greatest you've ever seen and nobody cares at all unless you block and shot in the post like a man the most technically sound reprotector my eyes have ever laid it doesn't matter it's not it's not the most important it's not the most important class on your on your transcript but it is a prerequisite yeah and you do need you do need to take post defense 101 I'm sorry you have to reach a certain level of bar of cool yeah to be cool
Starting point is 00:56:44 as reprotector yeah got a block a shot in the post. And once you do that, oh yeah, you can have all your credit. You can have them. Yeah. And shout of Timberwolves, they did a good job of game planning around the harsh defense that were going to throw at Anthony Edwards. They put Doncenti of one pass away.
Starting point is 00:56:59 So whenever they threw that gap help that they did against SGA last year and said you're going to have to pass the ball. That wasn't Lou Dort there. That was Don't see Devinchenzo who was in his three in this game. That, how they adjust to that in terms of the Nuggets defense will be pretty impactful for game three. So for the, so for the Timberwolves, the most important. player is who?
Starting point is 00:57:18 I guess it's fucking roll the ball out Rudy Gobert, huh? Are you going to keep slowing down Yokic? If you're going to win the series if you're going to win the series, it's because Rudy Gober put on a master class and Yokic had a disaster season, I mean disastrous series, and we're going to talk about the fact that two elite
Starting point is 00:57:32 defenses in a row were able to lock him up. And that's going to be the takeaway from this. They're able to slow him down and that one of the best offensive players of all time is no longer a walking 200 offensive rating in the playoffs. Rudy Gober, you'll have to do that. So we got Rudy. Rudy.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Rudy Rich Yolkich. What I want. Who wants some more? Helen Sell. Who's going to come out on top? What a series. Speaking of Hell and a Selle, New York Knicks versus Atlanta Hawks. As we talked about in the intro, C.J. McCollins' backshots have been the
Starting point is 00:58:05 story of your week. You've got to relax. It's all you've been thinking about, C. Jim McCollum, walk you down. That you have a new villain in your mind. I do have a new villain. That is the cool part. see jemone for life now. That is that that that is fun.
Starting point is 00:58:20 That's fun? Yeah, man. Okay. It's like you need a villain in your life? Yeah. Okay. You know? No easy victories.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Sometimes you gotta get a walk down to make the victory. You know, the episode of, uh, there's an episode of Phineas and Furb with like Duf and Schmonds and like Perry, uh, Dufth Smurts had went away like they weren't beefing anymore and Perry the Platypus was really, really sad. Because he was like, yo, like I miss my eyes. Like I miss out like I I want to go back and forth like he's the end to my gang No you're the joker you're like Batman's like why didn't you kill me and you're like I don't want to kill you You complete me that's you yeah and so like every it's like every year
Starting point is 00:58:58 Spare the platfish yeah So every year in the playoffs I need to find that Yeah you're the joker you need to have your Batman in Atlanta and you have them because in this game I think game two started and I think it went about the same lines as game one we saw the Knicks just be the better team, be the more talented team that's executing on both sides of the ball. You had the lead for a lot of the first half. Probably felt good.
Starting point is 00:59:23 That felt great. It felt great, even. You probably felt stupendous. Then that fourth quarter came along. How big was the lead you blew? I don't know. It was double digits. At 12.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yeah, something like that. Something like that. Blown it with straight ISO hunting Jalen Brown and a very aggressive, I mean, Jailen Brunson, in a very aggressive way that C.J. McCallum was like, I got him. He's small. I'm a score every time.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And he just did. It was a pure walkdown. There's obviously some schematic things you can get into, but it was very, very, I am going to kill him every time. And the Knicks obviously flatlined a little bit offensively and a lot of it happened. It was Seid McCollum, walking you down,
Starting point is 00:59:59 and John Tickminga being big and strong and being what they needed. That's actually the perfect word because it was aggressive as hell. Yeah. And like, it was, feel very personal. Yeah. You got to chill.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Bring him here. I was like, yo, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. Yeah, yeah, I mean, Jalen just has to, he has to obviously play better defense. Like you just can't get fried that way. And also at a certain point, once he gets fried three times in a row, let's maybe not leave him out there on an island. Let's maybe try something else to slow down C. DeM McCollum.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Just maybe make sure that he is getting a little bit more pressure, maybe do a little bit more work early. It was a lot. It was tough. And I'm putting this loss on two people. I'm putting it on Mike Brown and I'm putting it on Jen and Brunson. Okay. What's Mike Brown's rolling all this?
Starting point is 01:00:54 I think, I think obviously the rotations was a big, it was a big talking point in terms of we had. Every fan base ever? Yeah. Many, many, many minutes where you were not playing, where you weren't playing Brunson, you weren't playing cat together. You want to see more of a stagger? Yes. So there's, I think the rotation part of it is twofold.
Starting point is 01:01:20 One, I do agree that they were probably just maybe a little bit too many minutes with, without either one of them. However, and something that I don't feel like I've seen enough, they were both in foul trouble. Gena Brescent had four fouls. Cat had fouls on him. So I think it was kind of fair to go and try and steal as many. minutes as possible without these two to not put them in any situation where they were going
Starting point is 01:01:44 to pick up another foul. And then even with Mike Brown, the other part of it is the timeout that he called with two minutes to go and that being the last time out. And now we're in a back and forth game at the end. And we don't have any timeouts for the last two minutes because you called it and I say LeBronso when he was already going downhill. He called a timeout with like 17 seconds left on the on the shot clock. I think that was a bad move. And, and, and, and, and, you And this is the combination blame. Jalen Brunson and Mike Brown, y'all have got to be more creative offensively. We cannot go down this same path of as soon as the clock hits five minutes and it is a clutch game.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Every play is Jalen Brunson, high screen and roll, and then ISO. That can't happen. It happened way too much in game one. It happened way too much in this game. game and there was like, like, McKale, one, I wish we could have had a time out to draw up a play. But McKell Bridges is taking a running, fading mid-range jumper. Maybe that would have went in if he had a little bit more rhythm.
Starting point is 01:02:54 There was a shot that Kat took on the right wing with like three minutes to go. It was a, he took a three. It was kind of rushed. Yeah. And as soon as he got the ball, I knew that ball's going up. And you know why I knew that? Because he had to touch the ball in five minutes. that's the only shot that he's getting because nobody seems to care if cat is involved.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Nobody seems to care if OG has had a moment where he can get his game off a little bit. And obviously Jaylen Brunson has risen to this level so many times. And I trust him and I think that he can do this. You still are the point guard. You still do have to get other people involved. And it is on if not you, then the coach to make sure that everybody's eaten to a certain extent. And I feel like the Knicks offense so many times just gets bogged down. And so then whenever you are getting walked down and it's all on Jalen,
Starting point is 01:03:49 if his shot is not falling, like it hasn't been for seven of the eight quarters in this series, then CJ McCollum can walk you down every single time. And you lose the game. It's a problem. So I'm putting, yeah, I'm putting the game two loss on them. And it was a very predictable loss too. Because I also said the same thing as you. this should be a five-game series they're going to lose in six because they are
Starting point is 01:04:11 unsurious and they are incapable of winning a series in five games bro i am so happy all the top seats are like choking it just makes me feel so much better about my team losing game your loss did did feel my loss did make my loss feel a little bit better there you go yeah because yeah obviously the rockets are choking uh we're about to talk about the what's playing is the lower seed yeah it doesn't feel like it yeah it does not but yeah upset galore i love it And it's nice to because this felt like
Starting point is 01:04:41 it was going to be one of the most chalk first rounds of recent years and still could be these could be blips you know like it's not crazy
Starting point is 01:04:46 that you drop a game so not the biggest deal in the world but man if you get pushed to seven if you somehow get pushed to seven what a surprisingly interesting first rounds
Starting point is 01:04:57 that could be yes absolutely I do not want a game seven in round one I would love that because then we'll stream it it'll be cinema
Starting point is 01:05:05 against against CJ McCcombe and the first thing part about all this is like, Mikhail Alexander Walker hasn't played well for two games. And on top of that, Jaylon Johnson hasn't played well for two games. Everything you want to see from the Knicks
Starting point is 01:05:18 in terms of like the advantages they have with their size, they had 40% offence of rebound rate in this game, 93% percentile. They shot 43% of their shots at the rim, 98th percentile. They imposed themselves physically on a smaller team in the Hawks. Like it wasn't a disaster in that case. Like you kind of got the advantage you'd want to see.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And some losses, you'd be like, oh, we didn't hit the board of this game. We will next game. We didn't get to the rim. we won next game. You played your game. You did your job and you still lost. So that's tragic. And 32% from the three point line. Tragic. And also you mentioned a comminger just being like big and strong. I was I was the most impressed just with his defense because he did a fantastic job fronting cat and and playing denial, make sure that cat wasn't getting the ball. And shout to him for doing
Starting point is 01:06:02 that. But again, at the same time, Jonathan Camiga cannot be the thing that hold you back. from cat touching the ball two times in the last five minutes and you just have to figure out a way to be more creative to get him the ball um and so i yeah i would i would put those two guys so i think right now the the most important player on on the nix it is it is jalen it is brunson because also the just the consistency of scoring has to be um better he hasn't he hasn't he had the the very the very explosive of first quarter, three quarters after that, you know, kind of regular. And then even in game two, it wasn't, it wasn't awesome. So he has to be better.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And then on the Hawks. Shit, do you want to say, Jonathan Camingo? 35 minutes in this game? Maybe. We kind of know what everybody's going to do. Actually, okay, so the more analytical answer is Dyson Daniels, I think, because he's so important to what to do defensively and it's so important to their, to giving them some passing talent on the lineup that kind of does things together.
Starting point is 01:07:04 He's a very good guard screener. He does a lot of small things that makes the same. C. G. McCollum, Jalen Johnson, the killer's under Walker, ball handling combination work. But the spacing is an issue at times. So Jason Daniels being a good enough shooter and good enough scoring threat to allow him to stay on the court and not have to be replaced with Jonathan Camilla for a lot of minutes is important to their high-end defense. So it probably is Dyson. But I'll go the other way. I'll just say it's Camingo. That if they're going to get that physical boost out of him to kind of round them out, we know C. C.C. McCollum is going to be a
Starting point is 01:07:34 bucket getter, maybe have some tough stretches. We know N.A.W. will be a great defender and offensively it makes sense he's going to slow down a little bit. Jalen Johnson will do a little bit of everything but isn't ready to be like a one option. We kind of know what those guys are. Camiga can be the swing factor that somehow makes the series become more interesting. I think he can be. CJ also though, I mean, CJ is having been 29 in the series right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:55 He shot 55% in game one, 55% in game two. And I think the fact that he's been not only getting buckets but getting buckets efficiently, efficiently really does make up for the fact that Jalen Johnson is looking like he's not ready for this specific moment right now. Nikki Alexander Walker has not been a crazy factor and he's really helping them, you know, just stay afloat and allow them to vibe out on the side. Those two right there.
Starting point is 01:08:26 I think, I think Kaminga may be a little bit more in terms of like role players more so than Dyson. So I would, I think I would go CJ, Caminga Dyson Day Yeah sure See TJ is the most important player
Starting point is 01:08:39 Like you're gonna win It's because of him But I'm just putting it in stone That he's to continue To bust Dylan Brunson's ass So that just is what it is That The fifth option
Starting point is 01:08:46 Who can close Between Cominga and Dyson Is it gonna be the swing factor And would you say for the next Donovan? I said Brunson Because I I I think yeah
Starting point is 01:08:55 He has to shoot He has to shoot better And I think he has to be more cognizant Of getting Kat involved How do you feel about McKale Bridges? I feel like Mikele has
Starting point is 01:09:05 Mikhail's value in this series there will be a time where I need Mikhail to score a little bit more he's been doing a good job on the kid Every time he staked it up the tweet always says five first row pants I didn't even see that I was like what status is that?
Starting point is 01:09:20 Let it go but no he's been doing a solid job defensively okay so for this specific series it's fine but also the it's just crazy bro Mo Gay was out here hurt
Starting point is 01:09:33 Aneka was in foul trouble they are down to legit no bigs why is cat not averaging 30 why is he and like you're putting the wing on it this has been multiple multiple years of teams putting wings on
Starting point is 01:09:50 on cat and even if it is Dyson Daniels or Camiga cat's the biggest dude on the floor and he is very strong you can allow him you have one you can allow him to either one
Starting point is 01:10:02 just roll the ball tell him to go get a bucket in the post or find a way to go be creative and get and get him advantageous situation so yeah yeah that's that's what it is for the series i still think that the nicks are going to win in six um i think we're probably going to win the next two games but it's it's going to be annoying yeah another loss that isn't changing my long-term outlook but again noticing because it'll be very funny if these hawks wins rack up and all of a sudden we're in a late series can't yeah you can't let them in the series and i don't and with the physical teams the Knicks and you have to go through, you need to get some
Starting point is 01:10:34 fucking close, you need to get some rest before you see who's next. The Celtics are next, right? Celtics. You need to get some rest before you see Joe Missoula. They don't do that. They don't. They don't do that. They only play six or seven games. And I think I heard Zach Lowe make that point that the Knicks aren't built to play close series. They're not built to get blown out because the competency of Jalen Brunson and the talent around him. And they're not built too closely blah fast because the incompetency of Jailen Brunson and Kat
Starting point is 01:10:57 defensively and the people around them. Bro, that's where if slash when the Celtics Nicks series happens, it's just gonna be like a choke off. Who's more unsurious? Kind of crazy, by the way. Yeah, I know. I know what I did. I don't know anything by accident.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Very intentional. Cavs versus Raptors, real quick. The Cavs are just so much more talented. James Hard and Donovan Mitchell are dominating the front court. The Raptors is ill-equipped to deal with Evan Mobley and Jared Allen as we expected. They're just like full-on benching Yacapurto at times now. It's just tough. They just don't have the talent.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Emmanuel quickly isn't there, the X factor. They don't have the talent. No! They don't have the defensive big men or the offensive small men to make me feel threatened at all against the Cavs. They are simply outmatched. I'm going to do with that one. Seven points.
Starting point is 01:11:48 After he was like, I think he's a ball more. Unsurious guy. You're getting beat. Jamal says it's been 37 minutes, scoring three points. That's not going to work. Unsirious team. And we will have some existential crises. about this team. When this series is over, I think after the second round, we always do
Starting point is 01:12:05 our how to fix all the losers in the playoffs. We'll get into some existential crises about the Raptors and their roster construction and where the fuck you go from here. Because the answer is, I don't even know. And I would hate to be the guy in charge that team. But right now, the most important player is Brandon Ingram. He has to score more points for him to say at a chance. I don't know if I see it coming. But that's the simple reality is you're under, you don't have the talent in a lot of directions. You need your guy. You got to be a bucket to be a bucket and be able to do the things in a half-court setting in the playoff series that the defense doesn't want you to do.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Actually, I should say that they do want you to do, and you don't want to do, which is tough mid-range jumpers, that's his role. He's supposed to take the ugly shots and make them. Can't do it. You stand absolutely zero chance. I feel like there's weirdly a lot of similarities between how the Rockets build their team and the Raptors. And then I'm thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Yeah, they're both big defensive-oriented teams where their creators aren't good enough, or good enough shot makers. Yeah. Both young cores, they're one guy. It's always like iffy every year Is this the year they make the leap? Are they like a true number one option? You're bringing a small forward that can score and get buckets.
Starting point is 01:13:08 He doesn't fix your problems. But at least Scotty Barnes is an all-world defender. Shangoon is out there. Tough. Running back. Running around. Throwing it around. Getting back on defense.
Starting point is 01:13:21 He's out there torsing. Caswell's important player. I don't know. kind of just kicking their ass. Evamovily, I guess. He's kicking ass right now. I guess. I'll say Jared Allen only because they start every game treating Jared Allen.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Like, he's the most important. Bro, the first two games, they just feed Jared Allen in the first three minutes. You know why? Just Hardin's old school. He understands. Give the big guy some touches. He'll defend hard. Got to make me feel good.
Starting point is 01:13:50 That's real point guard. Yeah. James Harder from a different area. He understands. Keep the big guy engaged. He played with Dwight Howard. He knows you got to keep the big guy engaged. He learned a thing or two back then.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Yeah. Don't kick a pelle a lob. He'll defend the rim every time. He would die for you. Yep. If you just give him a lob, just feed him. Yeah, I'd say Hardin for the Cavs. Yeah, I don't care about the series.
Starting point is 01:14:08 It's a bloodbath. We had to get at least one uninteresting series in this playoffs. Even with the first round, it's going to be great outside of that. Yeah. What's up next? What have we missed so far? I'm blanking. Oh, Pistons.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Oh, yes. Magic versus Pistons. Game two happened last night. Game one came around. We had a playoff Palo Ban Carroll performance. He was exceptional. On both ends of the court, the magic size was too much for the Pistons. I should say, not too much.
Starting point is 01:14:33 The magic size was just enough to offset the Piston strengths and kind of make their whole foundation of how they win games. Kind of crumble in Game 1. They did a fantastic job of closing off Jalen Duren, attempts at the rim by collapsing and making the shooters beat you, and they could not. In game one, it kind of felt like we saw a team that was perfectly built to beat the Pistons, and it was going to be a little fraud watch for the Pistons.
Starting point is 01:14:54 First half of this game came around in Game 2. Same shit happened. It was a tie game at halftime. It kind of felt like, oh, my God, the magic are perfectly equipped to match up with this team. And then what took? And then they got their fucking backs broken in the third quarter. The Pistons came out to a 20-point leader for that quarter. Everything went the Pistons way.
Starting point is 01:15:13 They dominated them on both sides of the ball, caused turnovers, got out in transition, which is how they blew this game open. They had some good half-quart offense, which wasn't the case in the first half. A lot of K dominance, a lot Tobias Harris, floaters. Spacey still wasn't great, but they found a way to get the, A few half-court buckets in a row and then get out and run in transition and let the chain reaction happen
Starting point is 01:15:31 of how they win games by turning you over. In the blink of an eye, the game was over. 30 to 3 run, Sart Thompson player in the game. Sart Thompson was killing everybody defensively. They've only played like one good quarter of this entire, this entire player.
Starting point is 01:15:47 And it was enough. Yeah. And it's one-one. It's also funny that their best game, nobody scored 100 points. Yep. And this is probably how it's going to look. especially with this series.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Like I wouldn't be shocked. So we're going to get a 65, 65, 64 game in game three. Bro, this is a crazy score. 83 points in the big 26. Wow. It is, it is wild. But yeah, the business, they came out. They got bullied in game one, came out, you know, looked themselves in the mirror.
Starting point is 01:16:17 We're like, wait, you don't bully. I bully. And their physicality did, like, I think they had a baseline physicality that they did meet in game two. and it showed up on on their defense you know especially in that in that run I started playing playing much better uh jalen durren still not playing well yeah and so when we talk about like the most important player i'm a pick jayland durin because you you're obviously not going to go on 30 to three runs every single game there needs to be a little bit more consistency with his offense and his ability to get on the to get on the boards um every single game and to to
Starting point is 01:16:55 to create offense a little bit more. Because if not, then those early season Cade moments, where he's scoring 46, taking 45 shots, that's starting to happen because the other, you know, surprise, surprise, the other creators that we all have been doubting for the entire year.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Creators? Yeah. The other guys who kind of have to create, but they're not creators? Those guys are not living up to the bill. So Jalen Duren, who is going to be, Mr. All-Star, Mr. maybe all-MBA, Mr. Supermax,
Starting point is 01:17:29 you're going to have to play better. Yeah, I still find out hard to blame Jayland-Durion just because they're just selling out to not let you get to the rim. And it's working and the shooters are having to beat you. And in this game, the shooters still weren't great for the Pistons, but they were dominant attacking that floater range.
Starting point is 01:17:43 I think Jail and Duren did a really good job of whenever they were selling out, him doing that Stephen Adams thing where he boxes out to help defender and doesn't let the center rotate on the drives was a really smart adjustment they did. Cade and Tobias Harris floaters all day.
Starting point is 01:17:55 They got into that short midrange, and they knew we couldn't get fully to the rim, killing them from short midrange. They shot 62% there. And to the eye, I was like, this is fucking 80s basketball. It's straight runners from eight feet out. And that's what they had to do. And that's kind of going to be reality, because, like, everything we said in the first game about the magic being suited sizewise to take away the rim and do all these things still kind of applies, like defensively. Like we said, the pistons didn't score 100 points. So all that is still a thing and they still match up well.
Starting point is 01:18:23 it's just the other side of the ball the magic had a type of offensive game that you kind of thought you'd get from the magic before these last two games are brilliance 40% at the rim for the line of magic in this game and some just like shots attempted field goal
Starting point is 01:18:37 oh full goal okay zero with percentile I've never seen that before personally a team shoot 40% at the rim in a game that's unheard of 27% from three to go with that that just can't work like that
Starting point is 01:18:49 you're just never going to win a playoff game with that combination of shooting and finishing That's abysmal. I think, yeah, for the magic, most important player, Palo. Like, you can, as always. Yeah, because you're going to need the, you're going to need the offense. You're going to need the creation because Desmond Bain also, like, didn't shoot well, but he's been, he's been more consistent.
Starting point is 01:19:10 And then Jalen Suggs, and Jalen Suggs is firing. Jailen Sugg is getting these threes off. And he's too, yeah. And he stole Derek White's powers. He's trying to. He's trying to. He's trying to. He's trying to have the same arc where he goes bald and goes crazy.
Starting point is 01:19:25 It's a good arc for a defensive slantic guard. Really? Good archetype. I'm about one of those. It kind of is. Caruso? I used to have one of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:32 It's a thing. But. I'd like one back. For shaving Ronnie's head tomorrow. What's the, we need to pull up the picture of Brony bald again. Yeah. Yeah, when we started it.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Yeah, Bronny, get over here. I'm grabbing some clippers or turning you into Derek White. We need another one. Yeah. For the magic palo, for the for the pistons, Jayland Duren. They did do a good job of doing all like the piston things. I feel like the interior passing was a little bit more on display of the cutting inside, inside the paint, making the most of whatever quote-unquote spacing that you, that you have. They got creative with it.
Starting point is 01:20:11 And the first half they did what I asked them to do, which is do a little bit higher pick and roll, get the ball of Jail and Dern higher up so we can do some pocket passes and make some plays in a short role. Didn't work the whole game because they adjusted to that. But early in the game, we saw that he threw a lob to S.R in the corner, like you said, that's one thing. And then, yeah, and attacking in those short mid-range areas and carving out those small crevices of space you can have because you're not going to have traditional driving lanes. They have that run. I'm still, I think Detroit is going to win this series. I'm nervous, though. I think it might go seven.
Starting point is 01:20:39 That's not crazy. Yeah. And I feel right now, it feels weird saying it after they won, but really not scoring 100 points again in this, in your best game so far. is really tough. And then now I'm looking over. And Dennis Jenkins looks like the lights are too bright right now. Kevin, Caris Lavert, we are not getting what you would, would you need out of Caris Lavert. And we're just falling back.
Starting point is 01:21:06 It also, it's annoying because we knew that this was going to happen. But we're in a situation where Cade is going to be overtaxed as a, as a creator. And now when he's at his worst and when. when we have real, real big issues, it's because he is overtax. He is being inefficient. He was one for six from three last night. He made his first three of the night
Starting point is 01:21:29 missed every other three from then on. And it's tough to play that way, especially when nobody else on your team is a shooter like that. Duncan Robinson has to go crazy. He was three for eight. He's solid. I'm going to need Duncan Robinson to go like five for nine.
Starting point is 01:21:43 I really need him to be on his piece and cues as a shooter to take advantage of a lot of these threes. and then Tobias Harris, there's going to be a game for where Tobias Harris goes like four for 13. We know what it is. If his shooting is not, you know, what it is, I need Cade to be there, but the situation doesn't really allow for him to even have,
Starting point is 01:22:05 to be put in a good position to allow his shooting to come to the forefront. So all of this really smart, you know, tier pass and the short roll stuff has to be on 10 every single game. Yeah. And I'm not sure if that's going to do that. because of all the things that the magic do well. Shadow Kade, though, he's been a demon. Like, he has played with him.
Starting point is 01:22:24 He's earning that top 10 player mark that everyone's given him this year and kind of like christened him into being like a locked top 10. He's playing like it. He's like for everything you're saying, it's like for everything you're saying. It's a difficult scenario right now with the lack of spacing
Starting point is 01:22:34 and how much is asked of him. The three-point shot isn't necessarily falling. He's just been a short mid-range bully. And that's what he has to be in the series because that you're saying you're concerned that the scoring wasn't great. It's never going to be great. This is going to be every game.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Like the reality of these two teams and how the magic are equipped to take away some of their advantages. There's never going to be a game in the series where the Detroit offense is just humming, unless it's hit a lot of threes, which is always possible. So you're going to have to win with these tough, ugly buckets, and Cade is doing exactly that. Will we get a game?
Starting point is 01:23:02 Will we get a 120 game? Doubt it, honestly. Barring three-point variance. Yeah. Doubt it. Dude, BAM scored that in a game. The Magic couldn't score a BAM. Wow They scored a BAM
Starting point is 01:23:20 Super wow That is crazy One man One bam Was scored What is it That one more series left What am I missing?
Starting point is 01:23:31 Blazers Yeah Spurs Blazers Oh yes Interesting one When we got knocked the fuck out That was crazy That was one of the most absurd video clips I've ever seen
Starting point is 01:23:40 I've never seen a guy Get knocked unconscious by the ground He falls a lot and this is yo man he has to relax he'd be doing too much he'd be doing too much
Starting point is 01:23:55 when especially in this series because he's been trying to like embarrass the the blazers every chance he gets yeah trying to go between the legs spinning over here going backwards just calm down
Starting point is 01:24:06 because that's how you hurt yourself that's how you got that concussion it's how you knock yourself out he's also bro he's playing like a 2K15 demigod yeah Like on the park And he's 8.5.
Starting point is 01:24:18 And he's 8.5 falling from 10 feet down. Of course, any time that his head hits the ground, he's going unconscious. He's remembering that 2K15 size up and it bounce back and forth and when they speed boosts went away. You know what I found funny?
Starting point is 01:24:29 Every time we mention Vicks height, it gets taller every time. He'll be 8, 7. He was 10 feet tall two weeks ago. I don't know. But yeah, so they won the trouble that is, won game two. Victor Wamiama gets hurt.
Starting point is 01:24:43 And I think the end of the first quarter top of the second quarter, I can't remember when. And they were already winning the game to start because the three-point shooting was crazy of the Trailblazers to start the game. Led by Scoo Henderson, who had literally the best game of his career in the playoffs. He was a demon, I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:24:57 He was extremely quick, hard to stay in front of for these Spurs guards. So they helped off him, allowed him to have some space. He was just draining every jumper, multiple threes, multiple mid-range jumpers. He looked like a different player than I've ever seen. So I will say that the most important player in this series for the Trailblazers,
Starting point is 01:25:12 if they hope to continue to win games and make the series go long, is Scoot Henderson, because that was the difference of their offense early in the game, and then Wemby got hurt, and then it was a closed game. In the fourth quarter, they didn't execute.
Starting point is 01:25:22 If Wembe was there, I think we all know they probably would have won the game. But the fact that they played well with Wembe on the court was all about Scoot Henderson. Shout out scoop, man. Shout out of school. 31 points to zero assist.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Bucket. You know what the game is about, and he understands that too. And one rebound. Don't do anything to shoot the ball. That's what I like to see from Scoot Henderson. And you know what? If you're shooting 65% from the field,
Starting point is 01:25:42 if you're shooting 55% from three, don't worry about it. anything else. You keep doing exactly what you're doing. Yeah. And I'm, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, it is, it is also very key for, for the blazers. Like, he is the most important guy, because I'm not the biggest shade and sharp fan. And in terms of guard scoring, like, Jew holiday is not, you know, Jew holiday's not, not, not putting up 30. I would like to have some, somebody on this team, be able to have, um, some type of exposiveness as a, from a scoring perspective. And if Scoot is,
Starting point is 01:26:15 going to give that to them the combination of scoot scorn and denny being able to to do denny hoops that that puts this series also in play how so how long we're going to be going to be going to be out because you the we don't know yeah the concussion protocol he can't do anything for 48 hours and then he's going to be re-evaluated and so it's like a week like we just treat this like the NFL if it's a week he's probably going to miss three games and then come back for like game what was that game six yeah that's tough That is a lot of time. And now, Stefan Castle, what are you prepared to do?
Starting point is 01:26:49 Dearon Fox. Can you put the team on your back? Stop there. Stop there. That's the most important player in the series. Deeran Fox, you are paid like a star. All year, I'll be the first one to give you grace since you're being playing. You're shooting guard for this team, essentially.
Starting point is 01:27:01 They put the ball in Castle's hands because he's not the spacer and they want to empower Castle reps throughout the 82 games because him being this lob throwing, defensive type of guy, like Drew Holiday essentially for this team is the best case scenario for Savon Castle. So Dearen Fox has taken the short end of the stick. He's played off ball. He's allowed the others to thrive numbers-wise because he already got paid. He doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:27:21 It's the best for the team, right? This is why they pay you. In games where Wembe's going, they need you to turn back the clock and be 20-23 Deer and Fox. Didn't do that at the end of this game. Did not execute well. Kind of got locked up.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Now again, there's too Moni Kamara was breeding down his fucking neck so I get it. It's a tough matchup. But if it's three games, Deer and Fox has to go back to the first option hoops and be able to give you 20 and 10. You should be able to.
Starting point is 01:27:43 That's the thing. Yeah, I have faith and he can too, but the pressure is on you now to do that. Yeah. The big man group isn't great. Luke Cornett, solid, very good big man. You're going to have to really like get out the mud there. It's not like you have the gravity of a great, great type of guy like Wembe. So Deer and Fox will be tasked at a lot of creation.
Starting point is 01:27:59 The bracket that we made was so accurate because Deer & Fox was made it to the final four in terms of players with most pressure. Oh, yes. And now he's up there. You know who else is on there? Who? Palo, Brunson. And who's a fourth person? Do you remember?
Starting point is 01:28:11 I think we had cat up there. Can't remember. But it makes sense. All those guys are you're starting to see it in the first round. Yeah. And we talked about this year in this playoff run being a job interview for Deerr Fawkes because you have your two replacements literally in the building. You are now in the field, right?
Starting point is 01:28:28 We've done everything. You're in the building for the on-site interview. You have to show up. You have to secure the bag because if Deeran Fawkes does, he's had 17 points in both of these games, I'm a need 24. I'm gonna need 25. And look what we got. In 18 games of that Wemby,
Starting point is 01:28:46 he averaged a cool 24.6 and 6 assists. That's what I need. That's what you got. That's what I need. And again, this is a tough matchup though. Like the Trailblazer,
Starting point is 01:28:54 shout out to them. Like with Wemby and the fold, they don't have the offensive talent to have a chance to get the spurs, right? But without Wembe, they have too money, Camara, they have Drew Holiday.
Starting point is 01:29:03 They have perimeter Matisse Tibel. They have perimeter defenders to make life hell for these guards. What is the Fonkastel are going to be like without the Wemby of gravity? We'll see. and it's a tough matcher before that
Starting point is 01:29:13 that these games are not a walk over at all. I think the Spurs, they walk over a lot of teams without Wemby, they're still a great team. With the way the Blazers are set up specifically to defend guards,
Starting point is 01:29:21 you're not going to walk over them. Yeah. They needed, they need to go up to it. It just puts them in such a bad position without Wemby to not have three games without them. Yeah. And you,
Starting point is 01:29:34 like they might be, they might be down three, two by the time Wembe comes back. They might get eliminated by the time when Wembe comes back. Yeah. I don't think they will, but like that's, That's a situation right now.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Yeah. And we don't know yet what the Wemby time I was going to be like by the time you guys hear this when this comes out in like three hours it might already be announced
Starting point is 01:29:49 so you guys might know that whenby's only gonna miss a game. Maybe he doesn't miss any time maybe it was a light cushion we don't know. That's that's a hard He was knocked out.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah but it was a knockout in the same way like a boxer gets blacked out for a second. He was out for a second and back up because hit him in the chin. Boxes keep fighting I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:04 He's not a boss. Those guys are trained by this man. Obviously I don't know if the, If the chin to out connection is the same as like, oh, you got two wood. And like you're going to miss some time, you know. Clearly he didn't get to.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Clearly. Like, we can see that. Whatever. I don't know getting hit right here with the force of a thousand pound truck is the same as getting quickly lit because your chin, that connection there, you know. He hit the floor. Hard, I know. So, and he had tried to get back up and then his body like went limp a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:40 And then he walks off the court, though. Yeah, he ran out. He probably fell over in the back. Yeah. He was lobbying like someone who shit their pants. They're, come, come, come on. Yeah. He just be ran out.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Yeah, we'll see what the concussion is like. But three games, three games without Wembee. I just, I hope that D.N. Fox can put the team on his back because it would be such a shame to see this version of the Spurs with everything that they've accomplished this year, go out in the first round to the Blazers because when we got a concussion, I would hate to see it. I would hate to see the Blazers
Starting point is 01:31:19 next round, personally. Me too. Just be not even like to slander to them. You've done a good job getting where you are. Shout to Tiago Splitter. Shout to everybody involved. I need to see Denver Nuggets for Spurs basketball in the second round.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I don't have room for cute stories in the second round. I need to see the heavy hitters. I'm trying to see Denny go. downhill Denny they've been saying nonstop against Yokic rim protection downhill denny might be a hilarious force
Starting point is 01:31:46 he might be a demon he might be a demon actually that's like the one caveat that might be kind of fun that's all one thing Yokish got to go through Gobert and then clinging next round hold on
Starting point is 01:31:56 they might have something for the nuggets they might have something for the nuggets hold on Jamani Kamara locking up Jamal Murray school Henderson can shoot now they might have something
Starting point is 01:32:05 for the nuggets this might be the perfect match Wemby Now I love you too Wouldn't that be crazy Blazers is Weston coverage Files right Blazers Thunder
Starting point is 01:32:17 West in conference finals And this is how we guarantee the Oklahoma City Thunder go back to back Imagine the Thunder See the fucking Sons The Lakers With no Luca
Starting point is 01:32:25 And then the Trail Blazers And then the Pistin Where do y'all stand with Scoot? I don't know You still hurt all the time I don't know where to stand with Scoot I have no clue I've definitely been on the stance of like
Starting point is 01:32:38 You're a bust already man Well yeah I mean he has been so like that's like Undeniable But yeah we've seen stretches with the scoring comes around a little bit I think his shooting form looks really good I was like noticing that in the game I was like this man is technically sound Yeah I think in this game
Starting point is 01:32:53 Obviously he just shot really well We don't know what's sustainable But there's like proof of concept there For a guy that may not be the high end star we wanted In terms of like the next athletic point guard demon Doesn't seem to have the handle To be the type of player But he can be this like off guard
Starting point is 01:33:05 that is quick and short space, can shoot the ball and have that dynamic complimentary skill set there. If you can defend a little bit, be a secondary passer, like, that's a pretty good player. The reason why I ask is,
Starting point is 01:33:16 I'm just thinking of, like, who has been, like, widely considered a bus that turned it around and just, like, met the expectations where you were used? Pre-draft. Oh, met pre-draft expectations? Well, I feel like that's hard
Starting point is 01:33:29 because to be good enough to where people call you a bus, your expectations normally are super, super high. I think the better for, framing there is who how which other guards or players are busts in terms of being stars but they become good role players. Mm-hmm. Except that that would be the path to me for Scoot.
Starting point is 01:33:44 I still don't see the on-ball creation being like he's back to pre-draft like the wording you said. Yeah. But being able to harness the skills that we thought would be star skills and to being a good role player, that's super possible. But to the first scenario, that's never been done though, right? A bust that becomes a star? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Well, I'm sure it has in the course of history. Let me see. But, but, but like, yeah, I'm talking more just like on a Wiggins art type of thing. Yeah. Yeah. So you're saying if Scoot
Starting point is 01:34:07 would become like an all-star and a player who was, well, I think, none of the time has passed and he
Starting point is 01:34:11 was so injured that if he got really good next year I made a leap I think the answer would more be he just need time to figure it out
Starting point is 01:34:17 and the injuries fucked up his first couple of years. Yeah. So maybe he, if he was like in year four,
Starting point is 01:34:21 I'd be with you but otherwise, I don't know. Let's see, I'm looking through the course of history. Who else was asked and we gave up
Starting point is 01:34:26 on them and they became a star at number one because that happened into other picks I think but number one I don't see that ever Yeah number one or number two It's cool you can make history that's all I'm saying
Starting point is 01:34:37 Yeah I don't see any complete bust Number one that became something Because aunt was good in the rookie year It's again it's very it's very hard Yeah Cade was on disappointment timing It wasn't never bust Yeah never bust but there was a phase At like year two and three maybe remember he missed a whole year
Starting point is 01:34:54 With the injury played 12 games And wasn't shooting super well after that There was a point where it was like damn I don't know top 10 players in the cards. Maybe he'll be a good all-star, but I thought Cade was gonna come in to be one of the best players in the world. There was a little year and a half
Starting point is 01:35:05 where the team really fucking sucked and it was a little worrisome. And now he's back to being one of the best in the world. So that's kind of that. But that's not even. He certainly wasn't a bust. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Okay. But there's definitely number two, three picks that are like, oh, that this guy sucked and that was good. Shout out scoop, man. Keep it up. Shout out, and shout out the most important players
Starting point is 01:35:25 in every series. Wimby is most important player at the spurs. obviously. Yeah. Actually, no, no, I'm right,
Starting point is 01:35:30 what you said Fox? That's every playoff series. Yes, it is. Be Souls, what are we talking about today for our Producer Corner?
Starting point is 01:35:37 Producer Corner. I'm hungry. Okay. It's food related. Of course, as always. Can you please play your intro music
Starting point is 01:35:46 to producer Quar? I remind you every week. It's a problem. Mayback music. Producer Corner. I see I do more energy after it too. All that
Starting point is 01:35:57 producer corner. Yeah, I need you to work on the drops for it. Yeah. You know what it is? I want to make an original sound. That's why I'm not playing it. Then get in the lab.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Yeah, no. What the fuck? Open fruity loops. Yeah. Yeah. I got my homo for this weekend. All right. We're blind ranking fast food chains.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Okay. Okay. How many we got? Seven. Seven. Okay. Seven blind ranking. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:36:23 All right. Number one. McDonald's. Two. I feel like it's. You're pretty high? I think, McDonald's the bar is the legacy pick yeah it is oh it's not I haven't had McDonald's lately
Starting point is 01:36:36 no I love him at Krispy you had the big arch no but I'm a big McDonald's got you had the big arch I haven't had it said it like you had it okay I just assumed he had it I asked him I didn't know what is the question be fake of me just putting him in a corner for the reason I'm going I'm going two or three on McDonald's I feel like it's it's very hard to do I think we have to go like four or five like five I feel like he's going to do four elite fast food restaurants that you'd pick a million times over McDonald's you don't think McDonald's is elite that's that's elite yes never fails never yes it does never when does McDonald's yeah what does McDonald's failed you
Starting point is 01:37:13 y'all are insane right now I I am so high I just ask the question on when it failed you so are you can including like the premium fast food places like a wing stop like a Chipotle like the good ones or is it all like drive-through man Chipotle is not making my top three I'll tell you that right it's it's falling off those are McDonald's Yes, Chipotle has fallen off. Yeah, of course. But like over McDonald's, it's not a high bar we're clearing here. Have you had a quarter pounder with cheese lately?
Starting point is 01:37:36 No. See, that's the problem. Have you had their fries lately? Yes. Well, kind of. I mean, I go like once a year, twice a year. But when I go, I get chicken. Small sample size.
Starting point is 01:37:44 I get the McChrispy. Have you ever had a filet fish? I've never had it. Yes. Is it good? It's solid. Okay. That's where I would put it like five, but clearly I voted, which I want to do.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Actually, you know the list. So what do you want to do? Yeah. We'll go four. Okay, four, right in the middle, me the middle. Okay. All right, next. Chick-fil-A.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Two. So is there premium stuff or is it fast food? We don't know. That's the list. Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. Chick-fil-A is elite. It's like that.
Starting point is 01:38:13 I can put roots quish on you. No, I can't. You know what's crazy? Chick-fil-A's kind of falling off a little bit. A lot of people are talking about the chicken quality is not the same. And when I get the sandwich, specifically the sandwich, it feels very, like, gristly to me now, where it feels a little less flavorful, a little more fatty,
Starting point is 01:38:28 that doesn't quite hit the same as it did like four or five years ago. Yeah, I've been more of a strips guy lately, man. I get the nuggets every time now. The sandwich does not hit for me the same. It feels very like, the same way you sometimes you pop-lis, you feel very heavy and gross.
Starting point is 01:38:40 I've been feeling that from Chick-fil-A lately. It's aging. And TikTok's talking about it too. Everyone on TikTok is like, the meat quality's not the same. They're using different antibiotics. I don't know if that's just like mass psychosis, but I definitely don't like it the same.
Starting point is 01:38:52 So, as y'all know, I'm a very big standard for a Chick-fil-A breakfast. I'd be on that. Yeah. every day you bring in Chick-Plate breakfast. Multiple times. Didn't even know they had a breakfast menu until I met you. Really?
Starting point is 01:39:04 Yeah. Oh, in college? So a lot of college campuses have Chick-Phillays built in. Ours had two. I was getting chicken biscuits before class all the time in college. It was the thing. So I think, I think, I think between Chick-fil-A's breakfast and I get the deluxe sandwiches.
Starting point is 01:39:21 So I haven't felt the same, like, drop off in quality. But I feel like there's a lot of different things you can get on the menu. Chick-fil-A is very high. Does a Deluxe sandwich have cheese on it? Mm-hmm. I find the idea of a chicken sandwich which used to be disgusting.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Why? It just doesn't feel strange to me. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure it's good if you like cheese and like chicken. Like, it's probably not crazy. But the idea of me putting a slab of a chicken on a slab of cheese on my chicken. It doesn't work. It's not that versatile?
Starting point is 01:39:44 No. That's what we were talking about last week with the burger versus the chicken sandwich. Well, first one, you like it. You put some condiments on it. It's not the same for everybody. Well, that doesn't make sense when you're saying you like the condomists. No, but that's what I'm saying for you. I was trying to tell you.
Starting point is 01:39:59 You can't fill a cheese. You can't fill egg. I think you cook an egg. I don't know. That makes me a little more sense. Not on the Chick-fil-A sandwich. I don't think that would be nuts. I think you'd like that a lot if you tried it.
Starting point is 01:40:09 With that specifically, I... First of all, I don't like eggs, so I'm just talking. But the idea of egg on a Chick-Flee sandwich sounds me in my head like it would go together. We might have to try that just to see. I'm certain you'd like it. I don't know. I love fried eggs. I'm actually very, very curious.
Starting point is 01:40:24 I'm not saying I would dislike it. I'm just, I'm not sure about my feelings there. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Next, raising canes. I fucking love canes. You want to talk about people who are falling off?
Starting point is 01:40:36 The tenders are real small now. That's kind of hilarious. They just give you mini tenders now. And that's, that's, I take that as personal disrespect. Yeah. So I have to, I'm not putting it in the top four. I personally, I love canes. I don't go a lot.
Starting point is 01:40:49 It's insanely polarizing. It is very polarizing. I get it. It doesn't not seasoned. The thing is, a lot of fast food, especially chicken, I'm always going to add my own seasoning myself. Like, I'm always going to add spicy seasoning to my chicken. Like, I'm going to add sloppy mama seasoning.
Starting point is 01:41:01 So when you do that with canes, it's fucking incredible. Do you do that with Chick-fil-A? Chick-fil-A, I don't feel the need to, but a lot of chicken I do. But check-flay, I don't feel the need. It's so flavorful. But when you add your own seasoning, like, same thing with In-N-Out fries. You add your own salt and pepper, top tier. But people don't do that, obviously, they take it at face value, which I understand.
Starting point is 01:41:19 But the ceiling of canes to me is incredible. With outside influence, which is why I think, between but I can't remove that. That's just what I do. If you're trying to base it on the fact that like I'm paying for this meal and then I have to also alter it to get it to a certain standard, I feel like, I feel like taking it at face value should be something that. To me, gauging fries without seasoning is like gaging fries without ketchup. Like I'm going to use ketchup. So I'm not going to act like I got to judge it with some purest lens. I'm going to add my own seasoning too.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Not with McDonald's fries. I don't need cut. Yeah, there's certain fries that you don't need condiments on. I think the fact that they the small tenders really pissed me off and I think the fact that they are playing in our face with that. There's already a baseline foolishness of we're going to give you unseasoned chicken and unseasoned fries. We can get away
Starting point is 01:42:08 with that. The sauce is really good. I used to like it a lot. We used to be there. However, you're getting away with a lot now and I don't think that they're top four. I think if we ate McDonald's for lunch and Keynes for dinner, there's no way you'd like lunch more than dinner. I disagree. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:23 I'm so high of McDonald's. I love McDonald's. This guy loves McDonald's. Five it is. Hey, they did send me some arch cards. I ain't know. Yeah. They really did.
Starting point is 01:42:35 I'm not being paid to say this, but they really did. I would love to get paid to say. I like McDonald's. That'd be hilarious. Yeah, I think five is fine. Then for Keynes? Are you going to go six?
Starting point is 01:42:45 Does you hate it? I'd go three personally, but I don't know. It's not. I know, I know. So four, five or six, you decide. We'll go five. All right. Next,
Starting point is 01:42:54 Popeyes. Damn, who shit, 106. Because Popeyes clears. Three. Yeah. Easy three. Because let's say,
Starting point is 01:43:00 it might be one. And Popeyes might be one. I'm leaving space in my heart and this list for Wingstop. Okay. Wingstop also, another one that's now, it's now hit or miss a little bit.
Starting point is 01:43:13 And some of the newer flavors that they've come out with, they're getting a little bit too ambitious. Have you tried the orange one that just did? I haven't tried that. Citrus moho? I haven't tried. It kind of,
Starting point is 01:43:21 it kind of tastes like lemon. pepper. I saw, I saw D. Mills' food review on it. Did he like it? No. No, he wasn't a fan of it. It basically just says a lemon pepper, honestly. It's just another citrusy peppery thing, but it's good. I don't think Wiesup was falling off at all. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:43:34 No, it is. Whatever D. Mills says it's law. Fair. So, I can't, I can't. Popeyes right now is a question. Three? Popeyes is one. I forgot who said it. I have to ask Nikil, but there's a I can ask D Mills. What is the?
Starting point is 01:43:52 There's a chef. that was making the argument that because of the consistency of Popeyes and because of how like just already seasoned it is, in a majority of the cities in America, Popeyes might just be hands down the best fried chicken in the city for like, regardless of restaurant. Yeah. It might be one.
Starting point is 01:44:12 And that's fair. And Wingstop, another thing is inconsistent because it really depends which teenagers are frying it. Like it really, with a more complex food like fried chicken with like a wing, it really depends on the wing stop you go to. Wingsstops that are good and high quality are still excellent. If you go to Wingstop or not so great neighborhood, it can be a little soggy and shitty. You are so right.
Starting point is 01:44:30 The first time I had Wingstop, mind you, this is like, I've heard so much about Wingstop. Let's try it. It was in New Jersey, like 20 minutes out of Madison Square. That shit was ass. Now, it was like a late night door dash situation. It was about to close. So, you know, maybe it wasn't the optimal stuff for a first impression. But that shit was ass.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Then I tried until I came out here. Yep. Out here, though. To the wing stop by my apartment is excellent. I've never complained. Pristine. The wing stop at UT and Austin? Excellent. The one on, what's that street called?
Starting point is 01:45:02 In Riverside? No, the one on the campus. Oh, on Gua? Yeah, the one on Gaud. Excellent. The Riverside one was fucking garbage. I got two Chick-fil-Ays and a wingstop? Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Well, they were in different parts of this. Oh. No, we're talking about, well, because two chick-fellets on campus and then Guad has a wingstop. There's a lot more. The food at UT would blow your mind. Because there's like a little neighboring neighborhood called West Campus that has a lot of food. they got McDonald's no so they did before we
Starting point is 01:45:26 before we went there but they closed it down before we got there the people who were who were before us like UT like 20 because we're UT 21 so like UT like 18 19 the way that they talk about having a McDonald's on campus was they they just like feign over
Starting point is 01:45:42 that was a spot yeah weirdly I would too all right you know what Popeye's at three whatever we'll just put it there all right five Chipotle I'm put
Starting point is 01:45:53 Chipotle at the bottom of the list right now I think I think Chipotle has has fallen off I think yeah I think it got lapped I think Kava took a step over over Chipotle Oh wow
Starting point is 01:46:04 Sounds like six I haven't tried Kavely yet I think we leave space Space for a garbage Like fucking Jackman Box on that 7 So six it is Whoa Y'all love bullshit
Starting point is 01:46:12 Yeah man Jack in the Box is bullshit I've never had Jack in Box Jacket Boxes Jacket Boxes bullshit Curly fries Bullshit They were good when I was 10
Starting point is 01:46:21 Jack and the Loxy days is bullshit. Curly fries, they still hit. Yeah. Have you tried Arby's? I have not had Arby's. They'd be rare about the curly fries. I get the frozen Arby's curly fries sometimes at the grocery store. Frozen?
Starting point is 01:46:32 Oh, oh. Yeah, like frozen fries. Whoa. I thought you were saying they sold frozen fries at Arbys. That is what I'm saying. But they sell my grocery stores, but it's an Arby's brand. Yeah, he thought you went to the store. Yeah, I thought you went to the chain and they gave you frozen like that.
Starting point is 01:46:47 That was on the menu. I'm like, all right. Word. Okay. Chipotle. Next up, wing stop. One. Yeah, we'll go one. It's not a combo. Wingstop is elite. All right. Last one. It's a combo. I think between the top three, it's a, it's a combo. But wingstop deserves that. It's tier one. Okay. Last one. Five guys. I actually don't love five guys. So I'm kind of okay with it being at seven. It's too much. I can't handle it.
Starting point is 01:47:14 I haven't been to five guys in four years. The last time I had five guys was in 2021. So it's not a spot that I don't. I eat five guys and I'm like, what am I doing? I feel so gross. Too much to handle. Yeah. Bro, the first time it came out in like in Massachusetts, I thought it was like some local shit. Then it just became like all over the place.
Starting point is 01:47:34 He said, I know this spot, there's a little hole in the wall. Five guys. They did they do it just how I like it. Yeah, bro. I thought it was some prestige. They step on the burger just how I like it. A little mom and pop shop down the road. They put it in their fucking pocket and give it to me just how I like it.
Starting point is 01:47:48 He goes down the street sees the billboards. What? They've come so far Mind you they set up at Gillette Stadium So in hindsight What was that thinking? It definitely wasn't some local shit Yeah
Starting point is 01:47:59 But This family got motion That's crazy It actually is my least favorite on this list Like yeah I I eat it It's probably better higher quality And a lot of this stuff
Starting point is 01:48:08 Like it's better than McDonald's I'm sure But like If right now we want to get lunch I would rather go to McDonald's To get some chicken than five guys Sometimes the fries do be a little bit Overseas though In the time of I do
Starting point is 01:48:19 I have the same feeling you were, you could eat it and just be like, this is a lot, man. This is my life? Like, this is gluttonous. I didn't care about myself a little more. Yeah, it's too much. I need a smoothie right now.
Starting point is 01:48:32 I'm not going to lie. I'm going to continue McDonald's glaze. Double quarter pounder over a five guys burger. You trying to get McDonald's after this? I'm never going to get a burger from McDonald's like rest of my life. Wow. I'll get chicken. For the rest of my life, I'll never get a burger from McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:48:49 We're missing out. I don't feel like I am. Just because we have to have this conversation a lot, and I have to put on for my people, listen, I'm going to Burger King before I'm going to McDonald's. Wow. You can do that. What do you think D.Mills thinks about that conversation?
Starting point is 01:49:11 I should face it on him right now, asking Burger King of McDonald's. I think they record. Did they record on Thursdays? Yeah, they have one of those, I don't know. So I don't know if I won't face it on right now. He might be working, but need to know. He did, he just did a review of the, of the Burger King, because they, they're like revamping everything.
Starting point is 01:49:29 The Whopper. Oh yeah, I tried it. It's the same. Yeah. He, he said it was good. He said that the fries were solid because they were talking about changing the, the fry recipe. Did they already do that?
Starting point is 01:49:38 I know they were talking about it. I don't think it rolled out yet, did it? I'm not sure. He was talking. All I know is that in the video, he was like, yeah, Burger King has some of the most, like, underrated fries. And then he had some and said that they were still hitting. And so I don't know if he liked the, if he liked the old ones or.
Starting point is 01:49:51 I hate the ones personally. Yeah, they did have to step up. But hearing that they're on the way back up, I do like Burger King a little bit, a little bit more. They still got chicken fries? Yeah, he's downplaying it. He fucking loves Burger King. I do, I do like Burger King.
Starting point is 01:50:04 He loves it. The original chicken sandwich, like that. It's very, very good. All right. You can tell the nice little whopper. But that being said, that was our 16th food-related producer corner. You know about that, man. 16th Food-Related Producer Corner in 18 shows of B-Soles.
Starting point is 01:50:22 What'd that be said? I'm so hungry. Let's go to TikTok time. I'm talking about something other than burgers. Welcome to TikTok time. Today, per usual, we are going to begin with the draft. Today, we're doing a keep or sabotage draft. Beasol is drafting in place of Mo, who cannot speak right now.
Starting point is 01:50:44 So we're going to let him watch and enjoy himself on the sideline. Keeper sabotage. We have like 400 people in this spinner. We don't know who is going to be. Could be anybody. Could be Hall of Famers. Could be absolute bums. Donovan will go first, then B. Souls than me.
Starting point is 01:50:58 You get a player. You decide if you want to keep them on your team at any position you want or hand them off to one of us. Perfect. Spin that wheel. Who do we got first? Let's go. Could be anybody. Elgin Baylor. Ooh. Big Eldge.
Starting point is 01:51:14 Never the little one. Absolutely never the little one. However. Big Elch. Are we done? Big E.B. Are we done with the 60s and 70s? Super done.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Are you? That's a question. But you could do worse than always. Hall of Famer. I'll take Elgin Baylor. I will take the score, put him at my three. There you go. Shout out the legend.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Salute. Be Souls, who do you got? Here we go. Come on. Someone good. Oh. Staphael Castle. Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Not bad. Not bad. I'm going to take him at my two. Okay. And Loki might have been a big brain move to give him to Donovan because then he has no shooters at the shooting guard to small for. That might have been the move. Do I get to choose who I give it to?
Starting point is 01:51:56 Yes. Okay, okay. That you can sabotage anybody you want. All right. I'll still take him. All right. My player, who we got? It's been me.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Buzz? I think. I think. Miles Turner. Fuck. Okay. Are we doing best, best version of these players?
Starting point is 01:52:11 Right now. Pokemon, Algebra of the right now. It's got to be best version, I think. Those old people. Do I want peak most turner? That could be a good team-building exercise
Starting point is 01:52:22 if I get a slasher at power forward. You don't. I don't, but it might be smart. if I get the right other big man. But if I get sabotage, I'm screwed. Take Miles Turner. You know, no, I want all stars.
Starting point is 01:52:32 I'm giving Miles Turner to Beesoles. Five outspacing. No juice. Was the fun castle? Yeah, but Turner at your center. Go for it. Two of my five already being role players. Yep.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Exactly. That's how you build out of the team. I'm picking up the game fast. Okay. Spin me again. My turn to second time. Who I got now? Different verbiage.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Kemble Walker Do I want to get Beasles out of here? Yo, stop, bro! That's a shitty big three. You can have Kemba Walker. Wait, I get Hornets Kemper though, right? Sure, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Yeah, you can take them. You can work with this, we can work with this. I'm going to a Hall of Famers. You can have them. All right. It's on your turn. Fuck. Jaron Jackson.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Isaac. Yeah, you can get Jared Jackson. Hey, good. That's what I'm not. want it. It's a better Miles Turner. Thank you. Put him on my four. Copium. Four rebounds a game. Copium. Go for. I got a little star. That's exactly what I wanted.
Starting point is 01:53:34 I get Shaq next to him. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Donovan. Spin me. I can't believe you don't want, Jared. Mo Bamba. Yo, stop, bro. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. We're not doing this. Get him out of here. We're trying to build rapport. Still a couple months into the job. This is how we become friends or enemies. Right here. Dug on his ass. You were talking about getting a shack.
Starting point is 01:54:06 Take more bomb. Oh, come on. Yeah. Take more. Damn it. Yeah. It would have been so fun to get him out of here. We're getting rid of my dream.
Starting point is 01:54:12 We're getting rid of that dream. Yeah. Damn it. Getting rid of that dream. All right. Spin the wheel again. It's the wheel. You could have murdered Beasles.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller. I'll tell you, Reggie, at my shooting guard. Okay, the unction. If you played in 2000 or later, I don't want you on my team. All right, Beas on your turn again. Come on. Ha ha ha ha, give me Wembert.
Starting point is 01:54:45 If you would have gave him Mop Bomba, he would have had to have Wimby at the three. Wembe could do that. Turn at the four. He's just been in the spurs? Damn it. Yes. With Kimball Walker. Fuck, he's building the Spurs.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Hold on. I'm kind of cooking. And I'm not talking to I get my hands on you. Spin it again. Whoa. Stop. Yonnis, give me, Janus, at the power forward. Put Jaron at the three.
Starting point is 01:55:13 You've caught him as a small forward for years. Yep. There you go. Jaron's in his rifle space. All right. Boamba. Come on, come on. Give you someone terrible for Be Souls.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Cam Johnson. I'm kind of him as a shooting guard is a little too big that means I have nobody that can fight over a screen but I could use the spacing or you could just have the biggest lineup of all time
Starting point is 01:55:40 I think with Mo Bomba I need stars but I'm also helping myself not I'm not getting someone garbage so okay I'll take Cam Johnson on my shooting guard well we'll be a huge team full of no rebounding 6.9 guys I'm big and soft around Yonis
Starting point is 01:55:58 You're the books Yeah there you go Yeah Beasol that you got All right Come on man Give me him Give me LeBron
Starting point is 01:56:07 Dore and Finney Smith DFS Oh Isaac You can get him Point Yannis I said Yonis Is point guard DFS is
Starting point is 01:56:18 Power forward DFS is the two Oh my God I told you I'm big and soft around Janus Point Yonis Point Yonis with shooters.
Starting point is 01:56:28 I got spacing. Hey, yo. Forced. Donovan, your turn. Big and soft around Yonanus is force? A little bit. Meta World Peace. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:56:40 We're taking Ron Artez. We're taking Ron Artez. Put him at my four. This is so lit. I'm having a great time. Spin it again. Oh, my God. Give me Isaiah Thomas, man.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Hey, go ahead. Close enough. Go ahead and take Patty Mills for me, B, souls. Damn it. Go ahead and take Patty Mills. Campbell and Patty Mills are scary sights. I'm scoring 50 on your back court. Listen, you know what they said about that?
Starting point is 01:57:17 Mavs, defense in 24, you're going to funnel everything. Go funnel everything. All right. So two players left. They both go Donovan, just spit it. All right. Who does he get? Who do I get?
Starting point is 01:57:26 Please. Andrew Wiggins. You know what? The youngest Put Ron Artax at the five And put wings at the Oh, shit. And your point guard?
Starting point is 01:57:43 Who's my point guard? Give me another wing. Give me broad. There's nobody on this team like a dribble. Put wing as at the one. Put Andrew wingers at the one. Reggie Miller at the two.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Elginle at the three. Sean Marion at the. Ron our test at the four Sean Marion at the five This is the least versatile versatile lineup of all time Beesol How did I end up building the best team
Starting point is 01:58:12 You have three point guards And we have none Who has the best team here? We have one B I have the most balance Stay I guess yeah You have no
Starting point is 01:58:22 Not really balanced at all But you have at least Different sizes of players Yeah My team might win No In terms of your team is too small to hang with me. I'm like, that team's huge. Who's guarding Jaron? Like, Wembe's in a guard,
Starting point is 01:58:35 Yannis. I go, okay, turn on Jaron. Patty Mills. What, who's Johnson again? If Jaron is just going to stand out there, you three, Patty Mills got that. Actually, no, my team, because I'm going to have Camden Johnson and DFS attacking Campbell Walker and Mills. I don't want those guys attacking anybody. One B-backline. We're good. Rinalettishamarian backline. Brick wall. That's actually not bad to That's a brick wall With Elgin's scoring 30
Starting point is 01:59:03 Redgie running off screens These teams are horrible Absolutely Andrew Wiggins Actually Elgin We're gonna take Elgin into the future You're gonna be point forward
Starting point is 01:59:14 Do it all Heliocentric basketball If you were to give B-Soul That means I would have got Patty Mills That would have been hilarious No I couldn't let you get a guard Patty Mills The On this two-man game
Starting point is 01:59:27 I wonder So if I would have gave you Cam Johnson, I would have got one of the last two players. Okay, so I'd either got Wiggins or Marion, which isn't even any better. All right. I like my team. Let us know who won.
Starting point is 01:59:40 Let us know who came out victorious there. I don't know. Wow. Next thing we're going to do today, I'm going to show you guys some of the NBA duos that define today's league. We're going to put them into a tier list based on how good and how synergetic
Starting point is 01:59:56 you think this duo is. I think we think about this on which duos would you want to build around. Who do you trust the most? Things like that. Be so, read me the tears. Golden marriage. This is nice. You should propose.
Starting point is 02:00:10 Happy couple. Co-workers. You need a little therapy and toxic relationship. Talk to situations. This is how we're gay in these NBA duos today. Who was up first? Janice and Mouse Turner. I think this basically means Janus on the bucks.
Starting point is 02:00:27 because Miles Turner is just a placeholder. Okay. If we're doing, yeah, because if it's Janice and Miles Turner, coworkers. But Janice and the Bucks, toxic situation ship. You know, I think Yonis and Miles Turner probably had like three conversations. Co-workers are probably pretty adequate. Yeah. They're probably just there together.
Starting point is 02:00:46 They're two guys that happen to be hired and paid by the same person. Did they even know they're going to play together before it happened? Probably not. No. Do they care now? Probably not. The cubicles are three cubicles away from each other. They have lunch around the same time.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Yeah. A couple head nods. Yeah. Yeah. They're fine. They kind of make each other better. They kind of make sense even though nothing comes of it. It's like you hire middle manager.
Starting point is 02:01:06 You expect to be good. Nothing comes of it. Co-workers. Okay. Next up, we have Stefan Dremond. Oh, goaded marriage. Goated marriage through thick and thin. They've had so many scandals, so many things that could tear marriage apart.
Starting point is 02:01:20 They stay together like this. This is one of the strongest relationships in Seth Curry's life. He's one of the strongest relationships in Jemond Green's life. It's probably the strongest relationship of Drew Ball Green's life. To go to marriage. They complete each other. I see it. I see it.
Starting point is 02:01:36 The death through them part. 100%. Steve Kerr is gone from the Warriors. They are still here. Because true love lasts forever. Wow. Not wrong. Beautiful.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Would you look at that? Thank you. Who's next? Lamello and Khan. I would say happy couple right now. Yeah, I think happy couple. This is a duo you want to build it. They're in the honeymoon stage right now.
Starting point is 02:02:01 They are. They are. So everything goes. Everything is just, they're just having fun. Yeah. It's too early to say you should propose because like a year ago we were questioning if Lamello is going to be somebody that you can rely upon.
Starting point is 02:02:13 Good year. Do it again. Yeah. And then like maybe maybe we can start talking about, you know, moving in together and stuff like that. But propose, that's a bit much. Play 70 games again for me next year. Then maybe I'll propose. Maybe I'll think about it.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Yeah. You got some trust issues That's work through with the mellow ball still You're a step one of the process of repairing it Yeah Age gap Age gap kind of crazy These are the convoys man
Starting point is 02:02:43 All right Next up we have Nah and Jalen Johnson Can I think about that one? Yes It's okay Co-workers right co-workers
Starting point is 02:02:58 yeah yeah because I I wouldn't say that they're like a happy couple McAllenna Walker just got promoted and so they're on the same floor now they work on the same team
Starting point is 02:03:08 and like he's known that like you know Jayden Jocci he's kind of been running sales for a little bit but he's like y'all I've actually been doing pretty well now we're going band for band for Q1 sales
Starting point is 02:03:17 I think I think co-worker is good okay yeah yeah it was a coworker that I think when he was hired you didn't expect much of him you're like I don't know what his qualifications are why he's here boss really fucks with him. And he's surprising
Starting point is 02:03:28 you. He's showing that he's like very, very capable at his job. And like, I hope you're here next year. I hope you stay around. Very good couple. Very good couple. They're on their way. They're on their way. All right, next, we have Tatum and Jalen Brown. They've already proposed, right? Absolutely. Yeah, they're more engaged. I don't know if they're a
Starting point is 02:03:45 go-to-marriage, but they're engaged. Like, they have a ring. There's a ring on their finger. I think they got to be in go-to-marriage. I think this is a duo that stood through thick and thin. They dealt with the Trotson Tribulations. Jailerl Brown was ready to leave. He was ready to walk out and find a new one. real quick, but he stayed. He was convinced to stay, and now they're happy for it. They support each other.
Starting point is 02:04:00 They might win more rings. Go to marriage. And you know what? That's what gets a lot of people, the tribulations. Yes. Went through a cheating scandal. Not to mention the trials. Went through a cheating scandal already.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Wasn't them, though. It wasn't that. And they dealt with that. They stood tall. Stood tall. Came out better. Came out better. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:04:20 So, yeah. My guys up there, man. Oh, yeah. Go to marriage. And there's a little bit of cheating. They were talking about some Kevin to rant for Jalen Brown. It was in the air. And Jailin Brown.
Starting point is 02:04:26 Didn't let a little bit of cheating stop him from staying in a happy marriage. He stayed despite them flirting with Kevin Durant. Yo, funny, funny. Anytime Jason Tatum is on a podcast, they ask him about the pre-draft process, every time. Yo, I never wanted to go to Boston. I always wanted to go to Phoenix. Okay. I'll keep that in mind.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Okay. And they stood tall. Stood tall. Next, Caden Duren. I think, ooh, this is nice. You might want to propose. Yeah. This might be second tier.
Starting point is 02:04:55 I think you're kind of ready to build around this. This is a duo that give them a little bit more shooting as years go on, but this year we saw Jalen Duren make the All-Star leap. I think you're ready to build around this for the long term. It's about to be, it's about to be them for the long haul. They're thinking about, like you said, giving Jalen Dern the mass contract as well, you know that the building block,
Starting point is 02:05:13 the foundation of what we're doing is between Cade and Jalen Duren. Yeah, they should propose. Coming to the season, we were like, is Kate ever can get a co-star? Are they going to find a way to do that? Jail Lairn is your rock. Is love blind? Look at that.
Starting point is 02:05:28 You were going all over the place. What you needed was right there in front of you. The whole time. All you needed was to... Who would have known? All I needed was look at the girl. Take your glasses off. Mix your hair bag.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Oh, wow. She's beautiful. The girl at the locker next door. How many lessons from basketball? It's a beautiful sport. It's a beautiful sport. It's really a microcosm of life. How can you not be romantic about basketball?
Starting point is 02:05:51 Next up, there is Garland and Kawhi Leonard. Oh, co-worker. They're definitely co-workers Anybody that is duowed with Kauai Leonard As like Klipper Co-workers Darius Garland's like yo There's like a happy hour going on at the bar
Starting point is 02:06:05 Down the street like you're trying to pull up And Kauai's like We'll see No he's like no No He just says no He has never once entertained Being anything more than coworkers than anybody
Starting point is 02:06:14 He had a good moment to him and Kyle Lauer Could have had a little moment going on Maybe they could have got engaged one day Nope co-workers Kawai says into every job This is just a job I'm getting paid I'm just here for money for my lifestyle. You guys are not my friends
Starting point is 02:06:28 because the moment something goes wrong, you're going to HR. I'm not doing that. I'm out of here. I'm going to come in and I'm going to do my job and that's it. And he does that. Lamarcus Aldridge, coworkers. Kyle Lowry, coworkers.
Starting point is 02:06:39 Paul George, co-workers. James Harden, co-workers. Darius Garland, co-workers. Never changed. You are just the next one. Tough. And you know what? There will be another.
Starting point is 02:06:53 There might be a couple more. There will be another. next up paolo and franz you need a little therapy yeah need a little therapy it's a little rocky you're standing tall you're trying to be like jalen and tatum you're trying to stand through those trials and tribulations and wait until the best version of yourselves come together and get better for being shipped through that fire fire is open your ass right now and everybody and everybody knows the best versions of of of you guys you need to do a little bit of work on yourself individually in order to get there and you're at your best when you're apart that's the hard part you go on a vacation,
Starting point is 02:07:25 your friends see the lighten your eye a little more. You start getting triple doubles. They were like, maybe you don't meet that guy. Oh yeah, we potting today. Maybe you don't need that guy. Yeah. You need to figure out how to take your two worlds,
Starting point is 02:07:36 turn them into one. Maybe Franz does need to move to the West Coast. I don't know. Step into his world sometimes, right? What does he like to do? Swing Franz don't rock. You ever thought about that? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:48 Oh, he likes hiking, going to hike with him sometimes. It might be nice. He likes high picking and roll. stop hogging the post touches. You might never know what happens if y'all run a Spain, pick and roll together.
Starting point is 02:07:58 You don't know. But it's not over. It's not quite toxic. They try. They like each other. Just need a little therapy to figure it out. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 02:08:06 Next. Jalen Brunson and Kat. Ooh. You need a little therapy to figure it out. The thing is, we know for a fact, you guys don't bring the best out of each other.
Starting point is 02:08:15 You probably never will. You never have. But we're sticking through it regardless because we need to because we paid you guys. The kids are in the house already. We're not going to bring it. break up a household.
Starting point is 02:08:25 Loki. Loki a toxic situation ship. Is it a toxic situation ship? Maybe, because you know what? There's, because at the end of the day, even whenever you see the highs, right? And some of the best
Starting point is 02:08:41 moments of it, oh, it's good. I feel like I could be here for the long haul. But then at the end of the day, you just know it can never work between the two of us. We're incompatible fundamentally. We'll never reach that peak. We'll never get married. We're just here. Yeah. Toxic situations. We can, we can have a good
Starting point is 02:08:57 time, great time, even. But not a long time. I guarantee you. But I can't marry you. It's far, though. Yeah. But it's really not, though. That's the thing. Like, I'm going. It's fine. Yeah, I just, I just, I don't know. Making a splash. All right. Next.
Starting point is 02:09:19 Jewel and the Tari Spex. What's your problem? Happy couple. Happy couple. I think they these guys mesh they're there talking about why are you like this why are you like this happy couple they enjoy each other's company they've been together through different roles and tithy's maxi has stood by joel's side as he struggles in life in his career perfect couple and they've been through yeah they've been through different seasons
Starting point is 02:09:43 together and bead has supported maxi when he was when he was coming up now now they're in a different season of their lives and maxi is supporting it and bide they're therefore he other at all times and they make sure that each one of them gets to support the thing. Yeah. Do they have an awkward age gap? Yes. But they make it work and they're happy about it. Are their time lines aligned?
Starting point is 02:10:04 No, not really. But we make it work and we're happy about it. I feel like at some point Maxis going to be like, I want to be on my own though. I doubt it honestly. Like you holding me back. I think he loves Joelle Embed. I think everybody had teammates with Joel Embeddeed loves him and was like, I'm going to stand by.
Starting point is 02:10:20 Okay. I see it. James Hardin and Donovan Mitchell. I mean, they just got They're co-workers But they're gonna be a happy couple They just got put together though So co-workers for now
Starting point is 02:10:32 Just for time We need time to build that chemistry We'll get to happy couple Maybe we'll propose one day But we're just getting to know each other still Happy co-co-just co-workers Okay Next
Starting point is 02:10:41 Bam and Tyler Hero Oh you need a little therapy Actually talk to situation shit Blow this bitch up You cut it You will never work You are still holding on to The memories from
Starting point is 02:10:52 From the bubble from 2020 when you're making Easton Conference Final Not even. Tyler here's the rebound. Bam's real partner in crime? She left him. He went to Golden State. She moved to the West Coast and you're left with the guy
Starting point is 02:11:06 that was just around. You just happened to see you'll do? Nah. Rebound. You cannot. Settling for someone? Settling hard. Toxic.
Starting point is 02:11:16 Settling with the rebound? Tough. Tough. You know that's not who you want to be with. It'll do. I guess. But it really won't. You think it will.
Starting point is 02:11:27 It won't. It won't. Never will. Now I got to score 83. Fuck. And you scored 83 when they weren't around. Ooh. At your best when they're not around.
Starting point is 02:11:37 You're not even to score 83 type of guy. Damn. You know Miami turned up another night. Come on, man. Come on. I'm on fire today. All right. Luca and Austin Reeves.
Starting point is 02:11:49 Happy couple. Maybe you should propose. Austin Reeves is coming up for free agency. Maybe you should say this is my, this is my duo for a long time. We're going to pay Max, Austin Rees and Max Money, find a way to get defenders around them. This is your bedrock. They clearly like each other and they clearly love each other.
Starting point is 02:12:03 You should propose. Yeah. You're not goaded. You probably never will be, but you should propose and be happy with your arrangement. Because I've seen you in other relationships. I haven't seen, I haven't seen the glimmer that you had with this person. They bring up the best of each other.
Starting point is 02:12:17 I've never ever seen him smile like this before. He normally is not like this. But for you, it's because. Put him in here too. He knows that you're special. Yeah. You should propose. All right.
Starting point is 02:12:27 Next up. Dylan Brooks and Devin Booker. Oh, man. Co-workers or a happy couple? I think they fuck with each other. It's an arrangement that won't go anywhere, but they're happy not going to anywhere together. It's definitely coworkers because you're only going to get this combination of
Starting point is 02:12:43 personalities. Like, you're really not going to meet this message just out in the open. Okay. This is a workplace relationship where you just find, like, you find one of the weird combos. You know what this is? We don't have a tier for this. This is like an arranged marriage
Starting point is 02:12:58 that you happen to be like, kind of like this guy. You don't want this guy. You want to Kevin Durant. And your mom's like, you're going to marry Dylan Brooks. And you're kind of enjoying it, but it's begrudgingly because it wasn't your choice. Man, this is tier one potting. Bill Simmons, we're coming after you.
Starting point is 02:13:18 We'll go co-workers for right now. All right. Jamal Murray and Nicola Yolkich. Goaded marriage. Through and through. Absolutely. Since day one, love it for a sight. They've gone through trials and tribulations.
Starting point is 02:13:31 They've held each other down at different points. They got a ring together. It's a go-to marriage. Okay. Next. You brought a ring to Denver, Colorado. You're goaded. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:13:44 SGA and Chet. Goaded marriage. Again, love it for a site. You were put together and immediately clicked like that. and have nothing but success. He was the missing piece. He was, he completed him. Yeah, the ring was your proposal
Starting point is 02:13:57 and it's going, it's going swell since. How does the, how does J. Dubb feel about this relationship? I'm a little jealous, potentially. Yeah. But, you know, sometimes being a third fiddle to a lot of success, it's a good open relationship.
Starting point is 02:14:12 I was about to say the same. We should have had an open relationship to you. It's a good polycule. Everybody's friends. Everybody's like a ruin jewel situation. Nobody's upset about the situation they have going on right now. Okay. We got a little SGA, Lou Will situation.
Starting point is 02:14:29 Both girls like it. They're both happy. As long as everybody is in the fold of what the situation is. Who are we to judge? What I'm saying? They're all consenting adults. They can do what they want with their lives. All right.
Starting point is 02:14:43 Aunt and Rudy Gobert. Oh, I think they're a happy couple, low-key. But they deal with some. some frustrations at times. Ant being mad at Rudy Goberra sometimes. But does that stop them from being a happy couple just a little bit of rage goes on? It defends Rudy Gober
Starting point is 02:14:58 Exactly. And will butt heads, but you can't butt heads of Rudy. And can get mad at Rudy, but you can't. And that's a good couple. That's very loyal. Very loyal. Very loyal. Honestly?
Starting point is 02:15:08 That's a good sign in a relationship. They should propose. The age gap difference. I don't think we're already proposed. We're going to enjoy it while we have it. But long term, I think we need to look somewhere else for Aunt. He knows his one is somewhere out there and probably in the draft right now.
Starting point is 02:15:20 How does Randall feel about this? We don't give a fuck how Randall feels about this. Yeah, this is not open. Not at all. Randall thinks it is. Wait, let me in. All right. Next.
Starting point is 02:15:38 Denny and Donovan Klingin. Co-workers move on. I don't care about them. Who even is? Is this Ingram and? Yes, Ingram and Barnes. Oh, Ingram and Barnes. Okay.
Starting point is 02:15:49 You need a little therapy. I place it in the right spot. We need some work on this couple to make it work. We need to round out the rough edges for us to see the vision with this couple. None of their friends are happy right now. It might be. It might be toxic situation just because you're trying to make people into something that they're not. But see, the problem is they're pocket of their environments.
Starting point is 02:16:10 They're not in a supportive friend group right now. That's really nurturing them to be the right way. We got a lot of pointing fingers, a lot of you should be mad at him for this. You should matter her for that. They don't have a supportive environment. but if they did, I think they could thrive. But right now, like, it's not their fault that they're in the environment, but people are just products of the environment.
Starting point is 02:16:30 Fair. Who are we? But it's tearless. Yeah. And so if that's what's going on around them, I do think right now it might be a toxic situation. Because other people are going to start saying, oh, you should be mad at him for this, for that.
Starting point is 02:16:42 They're going to start to internalize that and then turn on themselves. They're getting broken up from the outside. So I would say toxic situations I agree. Us as individuals in society are only products of our material conditions and the product of the environment we live in. So we were putting the Raptors duo in toxic situationship from a very
Starting point is 02:16:59 Marxist frame points. Type shit. They're also down 2002 and they're not even successful. So yes, toxic situation. Next, the Aaron Fox and Wembe. Who, co-workers.
Starting point is 02:17:15 And no one. No? I would say This is the crazy poly relationship. I would say you need a little therapy. It's going well right now, though. So I think therapy might be on the horizon. Right now it's honeymoon phase.
Starting point is 02:17:26 But pretty soon... You think you're still honeymoon phase? It's honeymoon phase. But pretty soon, their warts might start to annoy each other. They might be at each other's neck. So us as friends of this couple can see the, see the cracks start to come. And we know therapy's on the way. But right now they're still pretty happy.
Starting point is 02:17:39 See, and that's why I just think they need to be a little bit proactive with their situation. But that's on us. We're the friends that see that and we know that. But you got to let them come that conclusion on the road. You're right. I can't meddle, but I see Wembe with the wandering eyes. You got a nickname with somebody else. Area 51.
Starting point is 02:17:56 How am I supposed to feel about that? We traded for you. It was supposed to be us to. And now it's Area 51. Now it's French vanilla. Now this other young Dylan Harper is supposed to come in and take my spot. How do you think that makes me feel? I know what?
Starting point is 02:18:10 I thought I was the franchise player. Nope. No, it is it? They're happy a couple right now, actually. There's no issue. They're thriving, 60-win team. Happy couple, actually. But we know.
Starting point is 02:18:21 And he knows. Yeah. And he knows. Therapies on the rise. But for now, happy couple, actually. Wembe's dating a Cougar. We'll get over it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:28 Put me a happy couple. Okay. Next, or last, Sengoon and KD. Toxic situation. This is one where they both know. It's not even that toxic. It's not even a situation ship. They just hate each other.
Starting point is 02:18:40 They're just ready to break up. They're only in it now because they're on like a group trip together right now and they have to wait until they get back home. They're in Miami or something with a group of 10. and they're fighting every night. Everyone knows as soon as they get home,
Starting point is 02:18:50 they're never seeing each other again, but they got to see the trip through. This is a thing. It was never fire. Not once. Actually, there was a couple, the first time they met, first night, October,
Starting point is 02:19:00 first month of the season, shit was thriving. It was great. Am I with baby Okic? Shengu was pulling out moves. He's never pulled out before for KG. He was acting difference. He was acting different.
Starting point is 02:19:14 He was showing out. Everybody was like, wow, you've never been on this before. Look at you. I never done this. Then he stopped doing it. The spark went up. Now he's just laying there.
Starting point is 02:19:23 Listen. But now, but now we can, it's bad enough that I know that you talk mess about this other person, but we can hear you guys arguing through the, through the walls. You are, you're being outlandish and being out loud with your, with your hate and your vitriol.
Starting point is 02:19:43 You're out here name calling doing all this other stuff. You're not, that's not supposed to happen. But you're hanging on. to that first night to the first week. You're using this history to keep the situation should going. It's not supposed to be like that. It is toxic.
Starting point is 02:19:57 Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's all they do was in the league. Wow. What a podcast. What a podcast. I'm proud of us. Next thing we're going to do today.
Starting point is 02:20:09 Last week, we made the seven levels of NBA point guards. So we started at level one being one of the worst point guards in the league all the way up to level seven to define the top ones. So through those levels, we kind of tell the story at the point guard position in the league right now. Let's do it again for the shooting guards. One through seven, who is, who do you want to start? Start at the top.
Starting point is 02:20:28 Okay. So obviously, Anthony Edwards, best shooting guard in the league? Yes. That's level seven. And I think we can go towards level one and put Cam Thomas. On the opposite end. Not in the league anymore, Cam Thomas? Wasn't the league this year? And I think that's level one to take it out of the league.
Starting point is 02:20:43 Is anyone worse than Cam Thomas? No. No, listen, if you get cut from the bucks, you're kind of at the bottom. So we can go Camp Thomas at the bottom. Yeah, we can set the parameters. Camp Thomas to Anthony Edwards. How are we going to get there? Where are the levels?
Starting point is 02:21:04 Personally, I think level six, if we drop down, I think that D. Mitch is closer in the tier with, with Ant. So I think that tier six should be Devin Booker. Fair. Okay. Yeah, D. Mitch is like right in between. you can quibble either way. Devin Booker is clearly a level of low ant.
Starting point is 02:21:20 Yes. I think level five, Austin Reeves? Is he like, if Devin Booker is like first option foundation player, Austin Reeves is like all-star level player? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:31 He's not going to be your foundation. He's not going to be your franchise. But you feel really good about him making all-star teams. And if you're in just like, if you're in a weird situation, Austin Reeves can be a bridge franchise player. Yeah, he can give you 30 any given night. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:21:44 So, okay, so ant, Booker, Austin Reeves. Yes. Then, so now we're on level four. Four, three, and two. Where do we say DeMitch was? Do we say anything? He's somewhere in between, so maybe he's level seven or six, but we're not putting him on here.
Starting point is 02:21:59 Okay. Now, after Austin Reeves, I'm thinking about a very, a very helpful, very competent two guard, somebody that could fit on a lot of team. Elite role player. I'm thinking Desmond Bain here. I'm thinking Con Cohn Cinnipple. Are they the same? Right now? Maybe.
Starting point is 02:22:15 Con Cohn Cineble is like. an elite offensive player, but he's young and so figuring it out. Maybe that is level four. He knows he's figuring some shit out, all right. Not in the playing tournament, but he'll figure it out next year. Maybe that is like right below Allstar. Allstar all the rise. So are Khan and Bain in the same tier or we're just using Khan? Probably. Con and Bain probably are pretty similar. Yeah. All right, cool. So con. Con after. Look at that two white boys on on our list. After Reeves. What other position could do that? Now, now just the shooters. True.
Starting point is 02:22:43 White power forwards keep them So as we're going down this list Now we're starting to get into Shooting guards that are very one-track-minded Yes Are scoring first flawed players that aren't elite Level three and two left Level three is still somebody that can be
Starting point is 02:23:01 A starter Yeah a starter, a good, good player Somebody that you do have to respect on the scouter report I'm thinking to Zach Levine here Mm-hmm Zach Levine's so hard to rank Yeah It is, but he's just been in really, like, weird situations.
Starting point is 02:23:16 But you know that Zach, Zach Levine is talented enough to where he can, he can start on so many teams. He can still give people buckets. I think he's right there. You know who might also be a good example of like a baseline starter that's safe but won't move the needle? 2026 Clay Thompson has a little less variance than Zach. Maybe this tier is just guys. That might be a tier below. Is Hero and the Bain con tier?
Starting point is 02:23:38 Yeah, probably. Okay. Yeah, this has to be a non-needle mover, I think. just starting shooting guard that won't make you better won't make you worse. Levine has too much variance, I think. All-Star Norm Powell.
Starting point is 02:23:48 Norm Powell. Maybe a little worse. Maybe someone's just very, very vanilla. Samhouser. I think he's probably small forward. But Loki, the Samhouser types. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clayton's probably a good one.
Starting point is 02:24:01 But still a good player. Someone used to think he's good. McHale Bridges, is he a shooting guard? McHale Bridges, Max Drew. McHughbridge is just there, but he's good and helpful and you will never feel like you're worse for having him.
Starting point is 02:24:11 But he'd just be there. 35 first our picks for somebody just to be there for level three you did and that's your cross to bear not mine level three is mckel bridges okay who's between mcale bridges and cam thomas so you're not a disaster but you have some flaws you're not you're worse than just there we gotta take a big step down though
Starting point is 02:24:28 jalen green i mean is zacklevine i feel some type of of zacklavine truth are in me still so read shepherd 2026 up and down a little small if we can shoot One more year, you're about to be out.
Starting point is 02:24:45 A couple more bad playoff friends. You're about to be out. You really do have to prove something to the league. Yep. Is Cam Johnson a forward? Yeah, Cam Johnson is like 6-9. I wouldn't hate the Recheper pick. Yeah, Reed Shepherd has a lot of variance.
Starting point is 02:24:59 Some nights he's too small to play. Some nights he's lighted up. Some nights he's the most confident man on the planet. And some nights Lou Dorts spinning on him, throwing lamps up because of buckets every time. Recheper level two. There you go. Who Reed Shepard? Cam Thomas.
Starting point is 02:25:13 The Rue White Boys on our list. Look at that. Shooters. Cam Thomas. Reed Shepard. Mikkel Bridges. Concanipple. Austin Reeves.
Starting point is 02:25:23 Devin Booker. Anthony Edwards. I think we nailed it. I think we did. Look at us. Good thinking. We did a good job thinking. Great thinking.
Starting point is 02:25:30 Great thing. I love thinking well. Nice. Beautiful. Me too. It's refreshing. Next thing we're going to do today. We are going to try to guess the NBA team.
Starting point is 02:25:41 by their 2026 stats. Beesoles has put together diagrams of five players in a starting lineup with stats just from this year. It could be points for game. It could be triple doubles. It could be steals.
Starting point is 02:25:51 It could be anything you could think of if we try to identify the team that he's showing us. All right. Absolutely. All right? All right? All right?
Starting point is 02:25:59 Yep. Who we got first? First. Ooh. Four turnovers. Talking about 16 texts. You are only doing that if you are leading the league in technical files.
Starting point is 02:26:10 I'm thinking So I know who you're thinking. You know how you confirm that? Look at that power forward. Seven assists per game for a power forward. That's a lot. Who has a hot head that can't stop yelling at people? Because 16 you get suspended for one.
Starting point is 02:26:22 Who's missing games because they're getting in trouble? And when it has a power forward, that dime shit. Tell me. Lebronjapes? The Los Angeles Lakers. The Los Angeles Lakers? Yep. Is that Lugudanjic?
Starting point is 02:26:35 This is. The Los Angeles Lakers. That's clear. I think I got the technicals wrong. But yeah, it is. You flip the names. Yeah, 16 tech should be with Luca. I put that with Reeves.
Starting point is 02:26:45 All right. Yeah. We still got it. Through the mistake, we still know. Good shit, good shit, y'all. All right, next. Oh, 82 games.
Starting point is 02:26:54 Played it every game. Every game power forward. 11 charges. jumps in front of shit. 13, 36 total points. I don't know what to do with that. Is that a lot for a single season? I don't even know.
Starting point is 02:27:04 Over how many games? Like, I don't know what that average is. Yeah, I don't know. Five triple doubles. A shooting guard against a lot of triple doubles. And there's not a five is a good amount That's probably top five in the league 38
Starting point is 02:27:14 You got a shooter on the other side How many shooting guards? I'm not sure I'm not sure How many shooting guards are capable Of getting 10 assists in the game? Not a lot right Five maybe?
Starting point is 02:27:25 Five or six So my first thought there's is Devin Booker Did he have five triple doubles you think? No, I actually don't think Okay This year I don't think Anthony Edwards Is getting 10 assists
Starting point is 02:27:34 He averaged like Fugn less than four this year What centers are Putting their bodies on the line like that? I don't know There's also might be a case where it says shooting guard, but it might actually be their point guard,
Starting point is 02:27:44 might be the best passer. It could be that. 82 games played. Is this the Pistons? No, it is not. Okay. I thought maybe Tobias put eight two games and he put K in a shooting guard.
Starting point is 02:27:56 Yeah, it's not. So it's not going to be the Pistons. It's not going to be the nuggets. I'm trying to think of, because 11 charges is a lot, and I would think that you're probably, if you're doing that at a center position, you're really sliding,
Starting point is 02:28:09 sliding over trying to, trying to make an impact as a help defender. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. The charges is them, offensive fouls. Those are offensive fouls. Oh. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 02:28:20 Oh, 11 offensive fouls. Okay. 82 games played. Is this the Knicks? No. Okay. I was like, is it McHale somehow? The positions are weird?
Starting point is 02:28:29 Okay, so you're just bailing over people. Is this the Spurs? You are correct. It is the same thing. Okay, Castle has five triple doubles. That's a lot. Good to him. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 02:28:39 Shout on Champagne. never missing a game all reliable when we just running into people can't control his limbs too much length to handle hmm
Starting point is 02:28:49 next I know you can handle it my bad whoa next next seven point five three point attempts a game gets them up
Starting point is 02:28:58 plus 7.7 on off okay impactful small forward yes 55 double doubles so not only do you get a lot you play a lot of games
Starting point is 02:29:08 you do 16 points per game. 2.7 assists, you're really just there to shoot. 7.7 on-off? Huh. It's not the Timberwolves, is it? Nope, no, no. Shooting guard does not throw assists.
Starting point is 02:29:25 2.7? You're just buckets. Feels Boston Celtics-ish, but I'm not sure. Nope. 7.7 on-off is a good amount. That's a very impactful small forward. Double-doubles at center 55. a lot of games.
Starting point is 02:29:41 It feels like, well, is this the Nuggets? This is the Denver Nuggets. Okay, I was thinking Jokish might have more than 55 double doubles. Oh no,
Starting point is 02:29:50 he only played 65 games this year. That makes sense. See, and that's tough because I was grading everybody on like 82 game seasons. They're not doing that. They don't do that these days.
Starting point is 02:30:01 Stars, they don't do that these days. Except for Mikhail. Except for Michael. Except for Julian Champany. And Julian Champany. All right, next. 2726 for your guards okay
Starting point is 02:30:13 3.1 deflections active smack and shit 9.2 points per game so you're a center you're just out here but you're not 100% like you're not a score yet probably you provide value in other ways and a stretch four who gets them up 3.1 deflections that's a lot
Starting point is 02:30:31 27 and 26 is very like you're in your prime right now so it's not it's not some super young team And top tier defender, it can't be, it's not one of the Thompson twins at 3.1 deflections. That wouldn't make sense. Okay, because the centers
Starting point is 02:30:48 aren't better for those two teams. Hmm. 9.2, 27 point guard. 27, who are like the... Is this the Celtics? The mid-teams. Okay. Just age at the guard duo
Starting point is 02:31:01 is interesting. You're nothing about players that just been together. How old is Norm Powell? I will say, hint, the 26-year-old he's a wing. I think he's more classified
Starting point is 02:31:11 as a wing than a guard. Okay. So Jaylon Brown situation, he's at the three, but he's really playing at the two, but he's more of a three. Okay. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:31:21 Interesting one. This one kind of has me in a blender. His aunt is younger, so he's not the Timberwolves. James Hardin's old as rocks. Ooh, 27-year-old point guard starting. This one is tough. I know, and the,
Starting point is 02:31:35 the, what's it called the, um, this is this the thunder yes this is the thunder at shay and j dub at the two yes oh door at the two okay perfect yeah yeah they play people out of position
Starting point is 02:31:49 chet's getting them up this year okay look at that 3.1 deflections for jubb ball hawk for him he'll be reaching around grabbing people it's crazy knocking those balls out
Starting point is 02:31:59 yeah all right next 69 loose balls recovered and 12 kicked balls Drummond Green. No. Okay, never mind. Pistons. He kicks more balls than 12.
Starting point is 02:32:11 17.6 field goal attempts? Small four, they get them up. You do be shooting a lot. Yep. 69 lose balls recovered. That's a fuck ton of lose balls. That's a hustling player.
Starting point is 02:32:21 Hustler for sure. I was going to say Celtics, and that's Derek White, but Jalen Brown shot more than 17 football attempts per game. He was at like 20 at one point this year. He was checking. He was skin him up. It was crazy.
Starting point is 02:32:32 It's not the Celtics. I know. 69 loose balls recovered who was out here sprinting is this the Orlando magic nope not chilling 12 kick balls from the center it feels like somebody who
Starting point is 02:32:45 because if you're kicking the ball you're getting beat you're either getting beat or you're kind of old and just like yeah you can kicks the ball a lot does shangoon keep the ball a lot and has Kevin rat at the wing is it the
Starting point is 02:32:59 is the heat rockets this is the I knew it. Shangoon began beating and rolling just kicking that foot out to try to recover. That was amazing logic.
Starting point is 02:33:10 You just have to try anything to stay on the corner. He do inviting. He's necessary, no layups. It's one of those things when he think about it. You're like, damn, Sengoon does kick the ball a lot.
Starting point is 02:33:20 He really can't open his hips. That makes sense. All right, next. You should be waddling. Wow. Double doubles all across the team over 20 at three spots. At merchants.
Starting point is 02:33:32 Versatile players. This is the Cleveland Cavaliers. Yes. Had to be, had to be two bigs. Had to be. Mad double doubles though. Mad doubles.
Starting point is 02:33:41 Had to be two double bigs and a point guard that throws live assists. Pretty rare. And Dean Wade. Yeah. And Dean. Big Dean.
Starting point is 02:33:51 Every little one. You got 20 double doubles, 27, 20. D Mitch is doing his thing. Dean Wade. I'm open. You want of these. Blood froze.
Starting point is 02:34:05 I will do my job properly. All right. Next. 255 fouls. The Warriors? Fowling everybody. Is this Draymond? No. A center who's always in foul trouble.
Starting point is 02:34:19 82 games played. This is the New York Knicks. This has to be. New York Knicks. You didn't guess it, man. Fowl trouble and played games. Doesn't say any good stats for Bridges. He'd be playing.
Starting point is 02:34:30 He'd be playing, though. And you know, yeah, yeah, and you can never take that from him. You can't. You can't. People don't play these days. And he stays playing. Always. You know, I always say it's a luxury that we only talk about your playing, not your
Starting point is 02:34:46 availability. So, there you go. There you go. Eight texts, three flaggars, three flagrant. Multiple people have three flagrants? Pistons. Correct. These men are dangerous.
Starting point is 02:35:02 keep an eye on them Dern has three flagrants That's funny Punching shit Throwing those big ass Mises people's heads Multiple people have flagrants Cade has eight texts
Starting point is 02:35:13 They're hot heads Kato That makes sense though Because Kade talks a lot of shit In the text Asar and Duren Throw fists And shoulders
Starting point is 02:35:21 They're the muscle Yeah they're the enforcers Cades sees him And Dern walks over Big ass frame All right. Next up. Shawl three point percentage.
Starting point is 02:35:37 Non-shooter at the five. At least shoot at the three. Mid-shooters all around that. Toronto Raptors. Nope. No spacing. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say the Houston Rockets again.
Starting point is 02:35:52 No. Pistons again. I'm going to say the Orlando Magic. No. No. Wendell Carter actually shoots. 12%. Non-sho shooters are three
Starting point is 02:36:01 But he shot at least a couple To get that percentage I think y'all would be genuinely surprised I'd be genuinely surprised At 12% is probably the surprising part But this is one This team has one good shooter Zonlin Williamson
Starting point is 02:36:11 This is the new one of his pelicans No Damn it He plays center And lately in the season This team's had one good shooter One good shooter And he's on the wing
Starting point is 02:36:20 I'm guessing the five Is surprising how much Brick he was this year It's not the Let me say this They don't have only one good shooter Yeah they have somebody who fucked it
Starting point is 02:36:30 Oh. Is this the Mavericks? Is this the Phoenix Suns? No. Oh, okay. I thought it was Devin Booker Airport Guard. Good guess, though. You're thinking along the...
Starting point is 02:36:39 Yeah, it's somebody who should be a good shooter but wasn't this year. Yes. Could be a lot of people. Oh, oh, oh, oh. You got it? This is the best shooting team in the NBA. That has bad shooters starting, I think. Boston Celtics?
Starting point is 02:36:55 Correct. Yeah, Boston Celtics. Because, you know, these are volume shooters. They get them up. Yeah. Yeah. Eric White. Staking it up.
Starting point is 02:37:03 Yeah, stinking it up. Kato's obviously a non-shooter. Tatum coming back is at 33 still. Howitzer and Brown get them up. Yeah, yeah. All right. Next. Nine texts again.
Starting point is 02:37:15 We have a shouter, the point guard. Total fouls 267, 22nd. That's more than cat. Dremont, Warriors? No. Okay, more than cat. That's a good baseline. More than cat's crazy.
Starting point is 02:37:25 Who fouls more than cats? At setter. A wing that scores 20 and a shooting guard scores 20. is this Yaquipurto's big ass Fowling people a lot Because he can't do anything Is this the Raptors?
Starting point is 02:37:37 Nope No No But you gotta play a lot of games Get 206, 7 foul More fouls than Kat though It's a healthy center That played a good amount of games
Starting point is 02:37:49 Yeah Because cat played like 75 games this year Yeah It's not the heat Nine Nine text You have a hot head point guard Oh
Starting point is 02:37:59 Is it to Charlotte Hornets? Nope. Damn it. That maybe you had a fucking Bozo at point guard, a center that's aggressive, two wings that score points. Wait, wait, wait. You're really close.
Starting point is 02:38:09 Wait, tell me, tell me, 22 total turnovers. Throw it around. At the four. Throw it around. And a center that fouls. You can't foul a lot and still be a good defender.
Starting point is 02:38:19 Is this the Timberwolves? Nope. That's a good guess. What four just be losing the ball? Which four? That's a good fucking question. Which four would be losing the ball? I know this guy too
Starting point is 02:38:30 I know this guy like personally No none No it's like me Like this is a I got motion Notable name of the show Notable name on the show Is this the movie
Starting point is 02:38:41 Is this the Relaide of Magic Yes Much discussed power forward Yo window quarter Be fouling He'd be hacking He led the league in fouls He's hacking
Starting point is 02:38:51 His big aggressive ass He knows what That makes them good in some ways They need more of that honestly How do I do it 200 turnovers. He missed some games too. Super tough.
Starting point is 02:39:05 Super tough. Big ass numbers. Nine text from Jaylen Suggs. That surprised me. Maybe not. But nine texts. Okay, next. 8605 total points.
Starting point is 02:39:20 I don't think that's high. Power four that gets up shots. Small four that rebounds a lot. 4.5 offensive rebound? You're on the glass very heavy With a stretch four Hmm My first thought is Diabate
Starting point is 02:39:37 But I don't think Concanipple is getting 6.9 rebounds a game Or Brandon Miller Because Concanibble didn't average 20 So I must see That would be Brendan Miller at shooting guard I think Concanipal was like 18 What was he?
Starting point is 02:39:50 It's not the one Okay Okay Oh was he? Nope, doesn't matter We relieve you the stress Doesn't matter 7.2, 3 point, three point,
Starting point is 02:39:58 three point attempts a game is a lot, especially for a four. Mm-hmm. So you do have, you do have spacing from that, from that area. 865 is probably, like, your point guard was probably,
Starting point is 02:40:09 point guard's either not good or he was good and he didn't play a lot this year. This is the Minnesota Timberwolves. Nope. Damn it. Close, though, kind of. That doesn't help me.
Starting point is 02:40:22 I can't think about that too much. You're going to fuck me up. Is this the Atlanta Hawks? Nope. I shed it them. Why would I say when Jacket has 4.5 Offense rebounds a game? Smallest center in the league.
Starting point is 02:40:35 You ever just say something? You're like, damn, that was dumb. Yeah. A lot. A lot. A lot. Wait. Toronto Raptors?
Starting point is 02:40:43 Nope. I think I give up. Give up, Donovan? Is that the Warriors? Rebounds. You against the Warriors like five times. He actually does it every time I play this game. There was one time we did this.
Starting point is 02:40:55 He kept thinking it was to be Steph Curry. There was all-time teams. He fucking, he thought, he thought. of the Warriors. Mind you, that wasn't even an official guess. Can't be now.
Starting point is 02:41:05 Trailblazers. Yes. There we go. Dedy a small forward. figured it out. There you go. All right. Last one.
Starting point is 02:41:16 Two palming violations. Drupul does that? No. Two double dribbles. They can't dribble. 139 offensive ratings. 65 dunks. 19 blocks at shooting guards.
Starting point is 02:41:30 All right, a 140 offensive rating. Charlotte Hornets. Correct. Two palmy violations had to be La Mello. Had to be someone doing way too much. He was... Yo, Diavite led the league in offensive rating. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:45 That's how I found out. That's how I knew. I was like, it had to be one of those teams. That's crazy. 139.5. When he's on the court, they run up and down. Yes. Salute.
Starting point is 02:41:54 Magnificent season. Con had 19? 19. Good for him. Yeah. Good for him. Next thing we're going to do, now that we're done with that, I'm going to show you some NBA names,
Starting point is 02:42:06 and I want you guys to try to unscramble them. So you two will see the name. You'll see it all together in one. So you're not going to see, like, the first letter is like four words. It's one conglomerate of letters, and you've got to see if you can tell me which name you're looking at. All right, let's do it. Who got a first?
Starting point is 02:42:23 Ah, first name. Who are you looking at? A reading exercise. Love you guys. Yeah, this is for you. man what the hell is this this is great this looks like a dinosaur
Starting point is 02:42:36 teradactyl head ass what is this you don't see you don't see any names well okay what names have a have like a P in them it's a good letter to point out yeah that's the letter to
Starting point is 02:42:49 that's standing out right now something I'm thinking eucalyptus the word eucalyptus what I'm just thinking out loud he said not in a
Starting point is 02:43:00 you get. Wait, is this like the full name, last name? Yeah, first and second name, both put together. First and second name, okay. Does the actual name have a hyphen in it? Nope. Man, what the...
Starting point is 02:43:12 Wow, okay. I said, this is a very popular player. This was not too hard. You were smart to notice the P. Smart to notice the P. His initials are in the middle of this word. Initials. T-E-E-S?
Starting point is 02:43:26 It's not Paolo. Yeah, correct. Correct. It's not Palo. Okay, so there's a P in here He said the initials are in the middle I'm looking at T.E But I'm not 100% sure
Starting point is 02:43:42 Could be ES2 Could be Could be Could not be too And I keep thinking of the word Teradactyl I don't say this one's pretty easy I think Relative they're all
Starting point is 02:43:53 Putting a first and last name Just words together That's hard It's tough That's hard That's what the money's for What the I'm cooked here
Starting point is 02:44:05 This is Steph Curry Oh SC's in the middle Ah wait Ah It's Steph Curry You can have got that one Not gonna lie
Starting point is 02:44:14 Ah that's hard Level two Who we got next Man what the What the Tammani Kamara What Dude
Starting point is 02:44:31 You're actually the devil Are you cooked? Okay. Rui? That's the worst guess ever. There's no. You in here. He's just saying long names.
Starting point is 02:44:49 Ethnic ones at that. All right. There's a big hint here that you should notice. A big hint? There's a gigantic hint. MJ? Oh. M.J.
Starting point is 02:45:03 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Michael. Jordan. Oh. Michael Jeffrey, Jordan? Definitely not that.
Starting point is 02:45:12 Okay, so I think there's a Michael. We're smelling something familiar. Michael Porter Jr. Michael Porter Jr. There you go. Oh, the period was a Oh, period. Okay. Period. Thank goodness we got one. My head hurts.
Starting point is 02:45:27 There's three levels left. Level three. Another easy one, I think. Alper Sagan. Yes, there you go. Let's go. Saloon. read when the
Starting point is 02:45:39 letters are jumbled up what does that mean reverse dyslexia it works out for you that would be insane what if this old time you did just have dyslexia reverse oh Shay wait
Starting point is 02:45:51 what did you say Chey you did that Shay Gillis Alexander that's really what you thought it's not? It's not? It is do I have reverse dyslexia
Starting point is 02:46:01 Am I amazing at this game? Wow, good job. Two in a row for the non-reader of the group. Level five. Zaza-Pachulia. Oh my God. Yes, this is Zaza-Pachulia. He had a learning disability his whole life.
Starting point is 02:46:17 Nobody ever told him. And then they were like, you can't read. I'm an X-Man. However, had he just taken two tests and went to the counselor, he could have went to Harvard. You could have had a whole different route in life. You could have got freedom writers in your life. You could have been amazing.
Starting point is 02:46:36 Dude, I could have won America's Got Talent. You could have been an author. You just need one supportive teacher to send you in the right direction. It feels amazing. They tried to judge a fish by his ability to climb a tree. They get up on me. But you did it right back. Yes.
Starting point is 02:46:56 All right, next. That's the last one. Oh, but I will do that. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was excited. I wanted to keep going. I got no more worse for you.
Starting point is 02:47:04 Shout to you. Yes. Shout to your wordability. Next thing we're going to do. I have 12 NBA names here. You guys have to guess which one I picked. You have three hints to guess the player I picked. So use them wisely.
Starting point is 02:47:19 Three questions. Okay. There's a lot of fat dudes on you. Three. That was going to be my first question, and it would have knocked no one out. Oh, good pattern recognition. all fat.
Starting point is 02:47:36 Damn. Has has this player been arrested before? What? That is. That's a good question. You're trying to one shot
Starting point is 02:47:48 Big Baby? No. No, it's not just him. It's not just him. Oh, I see. You're right. You're right. No.
Starting point is 02:47:54 This player's never been arrested before. All right. So we're taking out Big Baby. We're taking out Zibo. We're taking out Sean Camp. Zipo got arrested? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:02 What's Zipo do? Posset. Of a firearm? Of? Maybe both. But, no, yeah,
Starting point is 02:48:12 dispossession. Okay. Something unimportant. All right. No. No criminal activity. What happens next? What happens next?
Starting point is 02:48:22 Is he known as a degenerate? You want to use that question? So... Honestly, not too bad, honestly. Yeah, it's not a crazy question. But think wisely. I'll answer whatever you guys ask, but come to a decision.
Starting point is 02:48:33 Because one of my... other questions would be, does this player do media? Because then that's, that's Shaq, Kyle Lowry, Felton, Scalabrini, Chuck. Ziba. But he's, is he already out? Yeah, we already ruled him out. Okay, we can go with that first. Does this player do media?
Starting point is 02:48:54 Yes, this player does do media. So who do we have that? You can see him on one of your multimedia devices. So we have Shaq, we have Shaq, Kyle Lowry, Raymond Felton, Brian Scalabrini and Charles Barkley. What happens next? Charles Berkeley. One question left before you had to guess.
Starting point is 02:49:12 So we asked a degenerate question that narrows it down to Chuck and Shaq, if that's a yes. Yes. We can ask if they won a championship that would be Shaq, Scalabrini, Lowry. It would be a three versus two proposition. I feel like in terms of just cutting something in half,
Starting point is 02:49:33 that might be the best option or if you're really trying to snipe somebody, then let's just snipe. Let's snipe. I love sniping. All right. Is this NBA player a degenerate? You did not land your 360 No-Scope.
Starting point is 02:49:48 This player is not a degenerate. As far as I know, never met the guy, but I do not think he's a degenerate. Damn it. So it's either Kyle Lowry, Raymond Felton, or Brian Scaliborian.
Starting point is 02:49:58 Where does your mind go? As soon as this picture came up, the two people I had in mind were Kyle Lowry and Scalibarine. Just awful what? Just off of vibes. So those two players stand out to you. Why is that? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:50:21 Scalibriny speaks to you and deepen your heart. You can't even recognize why. I think it's Scal too. All right. Yeah, I was glad to ask you to take your pick. Do you want to go Scalabrini? Yeah, I'm just reverse engineering Isaac's content brain. I think he wants to
Starting point is 02:50:36 I guess the clicks Don't get caught up in that Don't get caught up in that But what if I should though It's a For what we are saying It's a 50-50 proposition
Starting point is 02:50:47 If you want to go scout We can go scout You sure it's not Kenny Lofton? I took the last pick You got this one You got this one She's wisely You got this one big bro
Starting point is 02:50:57 Don't sell B-Soles Is this Kyle Lowry This is Kyle Lowry Wow Hit the next slide See my line go the next slide oh it is Kyle Lowry wow wow
Starting point is 02:51:11 I put it on there it's the next slide so you guys see before the show I didn't I didn't change it beautiful Kyle Larry speaks to you in your heart I always knew you're a Kyle Lowry type of guy beautiful I always knew there's something about Kyle Lowry you and good I knew you I knew you I know the kind of guy you are yeah I don't the type of guy you like and that's why I bit Kyle Lowry's I knew you'd get there
Starting point is 02:51:29 I knew you're typed What's you doing with that? What? So what did you do with that? Colari's outrageous. Last thing we're going to do today, we have to pick one word or idea or phrase, something of the sort,
Starting point is 02:51:57 that triggers these NBA fan bases. Okay. So if you're looking a Celtics fan in the eye, what is one thing you can say to make them have a bad day, to get them going, get them arguing. All right.
Starting point is 02:52:09 Tell me the first team we got up. First team we have New York Knicks. Trey Young. Trey will get them going for all of eternity. Trey Young can play for four other teams,
Starting point is 02:52:21 three other leagues, retired 20 years ago, working media for 16 years, own a car dealership for five more years, and Nix fans will still be chanting. Fuck Trey Young. Dolan?
Starting point is 02:52:31 A hundred percent is Dolan. Okay. So your hate for Dolan exceed your hate for Trey Young. Yes. That man has been in charge of the franchise for much too long. And he's ran it into the ground. I hate,
Starting point is 02:52:43 I hate James Dolan so much. So yes, James Donald will trigger me. And it will trigger us. So if I go Dolan, dolan, dole and dole in, you have nightmares. Ah. That's a good representation of your nightmares. Thank you. I can imagine.
Starting point is 02:52:58 I can imagine that just fine. Just in bed. Tossing an attorney like an idiot. He's not even tossing a dirt. It's just like this. Horizontal motion. In bed to a physical humor. All right, next.
Starting point is 02:53:13 The Lakers. Mickey Mouse. Not bad. Mickey Mouse ring. Not bad. Russell Westbrook. I hear that. Ducks recover.
Starting point is 02:53:28 Does the word Celtics trigger a Laker fan still? No, I don't give. I've never given a fuck. Yeah. Yeah, I think the Mickey Mouse ring is the best thing to get going. In terms of real arguments, do you try to get someone going? the bubble was easy Lakers'
Starting point is 02:53:41 Actually many players have said it's the hardest championship Many players have said The environment was tough on the mental In fact, it was real basketball because there was less outside influences So the guys were really locked in So the best of the best won
Starting point is 02:53:56 This is pure hoops Yeah exactly It was pure ass up You're joking but it was pure hoops What is that you? Mickey Mouse Yes, it's me Oh shit
Starting point is 02:54:05 Come up Don't shut your nerd ass up pay my bills the thunder um uh c cd oh katy
Starting point is 02:54:18 yeah i think they still like i think that the championship might have might have alleviated some of that hate okay some of the sting but even then it still might be might be
Starting point is 02:54:28 kd leaving that's a good point you know i don't think thunder fans give a fuck about the shay frito stuff too now i'm thinking about it they're just up like let them be jealous and be mad about the free tows it doesn't matter Yeah, and they've like leaned into it too. Yeah, I'm the villain.
Starting point is 02:54:40 Especially at this point, it's like, yeah, he does get fouled and you can't stop it. Now what? How about you tried not fouling him, idiot? He doesn't matter. So, probably Katie. It has to be Katie. I'm sure that's those things, honestly. You might just be able to say 2016 in general.
Starting point is 02:54:56 As a year. Yeah, as a year. Because you blew the league, because it would have hurt so much less if you completed the job and won a ring and then Katie left. That's crazy. But you blew a 3-1 lead and then Katie left. love. Everybody loves 2016 has those nostalgia. For them, it's just PTSD. They don't even have fond memories of views.
Starting point is 02:55:14 They don't have fond memories of love as rage one at all. It's straight horror. That's tough. That's tough. At least I got a ring. I guess. Doesn't change anything. 2016 storage? 2016. How about that? They hear feel no ways. It's just...
Starting point is 02:55:31 It's all one. You're one dance. Can't even dance. They have a heart attack. They can't even dance. freeze up nice I love physical comedy
Starting point is 02:55:46 Detroit Pistons how did trigger a Pistons fan Madness and Ivy Malice they don't care do young Pistons fans care about some malice in the palace
Starting point is 02:56:00 they don't know no no really they probably think it's dope Pistons what's the year they had the oh 27 losses in a row Losses in a row
Starting point is 02:56:10 Oh wait my bad Monty Monty Killion Right now Monty Williams definitely is up there That's the one's hated man
Starting point is 02:56:20 In Detroit To this day He had them losing For a month straight The head kid cutting him I've been no light In his eye Just every day for a month
Starting point is 02:56:31 You just know I'm about to get embarrassed On national television 27 is that like two months Almost It's like a month And a half It's six weeks
Starting point is 02:56:38 Yeah because there's like 16 17 games In a month It's almost two months Of horror Yeah lost for two months That one's broke the street against the Celtics
Starting point is 02:56:47 I was sweating that game dog The trimester Oh God damn What a rough year I'm glad y'all are where y'all at now man Geez Monty
Starting point is 02:56:57 Monty Monty The Celtics You had to think about it for a second What scares you I thought you were gonna read it Boston Celtics What scares me
Starting point is 02:57:11 Shit If I say Kyrie How do you feel Kyrie's the right answer Misunderstood I was a Kyrie fan Okay never mind We got a little
Starting point is 02:57:21 Progressive Celtics fan Okay What the fuck So all Celtic fans are woke All right All right No that's stop him syndrome
Starting point is 02:57:33 What that is Dude We named our dog After Kyrie When we got them All right okay Close your eyes I'm gonna scare the shit at you right now
Starting point is 02:57:41 Ally Celtics fan I'm gonna scare the shit at you right now Achilles What did the call say when Jason Tannen tore is Achilles? I think it was like Down Ghost Tatum. Do you remember the date? I was at a Kendra concert. That's all I remember.
Starting point is 02:57:58 What was it? Was it game two or what was it? Game four. Game four. Game four or Achilles. That's how you trigger a Celtics fan. It's definitely Achilles. The worst day of your life? I was at a Kendra concert, so no.
Starting point is 02:58:13 Dude, I'm not going to lie. That's the weirdest concert experience I've ever had, bro. Was did I enjoy that night? I don't know. I don't know to this day. Do you feel guilty because you did enjoy that night? Yes Okay, so the Achilles of it all makes you have guilt for enjoying life for a year This is how you trigger a Celtics fan I had this add the Celtics game on my phone all in my ear If it was up to me Come on dog I have to enjoy that He had a lot of no he could sing a little bit yeah, I got the vocals yeah, the Filipino shit
Starting point is 02:58:44 It's my jeans yeah put on Salute. Yeah, Achilles. Is how you figure yourself and trade? Put off for you people, man. Achilles or Kyrie,
Starting point is 02:58:50 one of those two. Yeah. I think for most fans is probably Kyrie. I think they'll never get over. I think still. They'll hate him forever. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:56 Oh yeah. Outside TD Garden, they still sell fuck Kyrie shirts. And fuck LeBron shirts. You ask him when he's 90. You don't get a little racist.
Starting point is 02:59:04 Do you ask him today? I know. That's just a day for day. A little at 90? That's just a day-for-day issue. There is a linear path. Not about Kyrie. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:14 I got to have to have been on Jalen Brown and Mike a little spicy. All right. Next. It's like I'm not saying he's wrong, but like, come on, man. Just play basketball. I'm happy he plays for us. Houston Rockets. Hmm.
Starting point is 02:59:30 Stephen Silas. It's a rough one. Oh. Burners. Oh. At this moment. 27 missed threes. 27 in a row.
Starting point is 02:59:40 That's how you trigger a Rockets fan. Is 27 a cursed NBA number? Low key. For them it is. Damn. Yeah, you can't say that at Houston. You're going to get jumped. 27 mysteries.
Starting point is 02:59:51 You guys were supposed to take down the Warriors. I wonder if you're arguing with the Rockets fan, like a lunch table. Is it like a slur? Like you can get like in trouble at school for saying 27? Nah. Got to watch something. Everybody knew. Okay, it's accepted.
Starting point is 03:00:04 Yeah. You can get it off. Yeah. They can't take that for us. It still hurts. It still hurts. But it's like, fine. You got it.
Starting point is 03:00:11 You win. I got to take that stab into the gut every single time for years. Go ahead. Hit me. Yep, yep. You could have beat the greatest team ever assembled. 27. But you missed 27-3-0.
Starting point is 03:00:20 And don't you fucking forget it. Ever. 27. Do you think 27 hurts more than hamstring? Yes, way more. Injuries happen. 27 does not and has not ever happened outside of them. You broke logic in being so shitty.
Starting point is 03:00:35 And they were built on three-point shooting. That's what y'all do. You take and make more three-pointers than everybody in the league. And you missed 27 straight threes. You practically founded the sentence Live and die by the three because you died so unbelievably hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:52 It's a lot. That's so it's all. Next. The Warriors. Mm-hmm. Jordan Poole. Punch. Punch.
Starting point is 03:01:03 The second wave of the dynasty fell apart because of a punch. 3-1. Oh, yeah, it's 3-1. 3-1. Yep, it's 73. It doesn't matter without a ring. That's how you get them.
Starting point is 03:01:12 Blocked by James. Blocked by James. All of those. Is they're going to be actually it's because Draymond was suspended and Bogget was hurt You gotta think about the context Curry wasn't 100% Check your nerd ass up
Starting point is 03:01:22 That'll get them forever They can win 100 rings They're still gonna be mad about 3-1 Didn't win that one though And you know what you should be Seventry and 3 without a ring disgusting Yeah appalling even He's ever getting PTSD as a curry glazer
Starting point is 03:01:38 How they do that man That legit was like The most intense basketball game I've ever watched And to see the person that was rooting for Be on the losing side of it It does still hurt Yeah, that's right
Starting point is 03:01:52 Get fucked It was a glorious day for me My household was lit It smelled good There was candles lit, we're eating good We're eating good, where are our favorite food It was a wonderful day Oh so
Starting point is 03:02:07 That's right Get fucked That was rough It was a great day That day was that that day was was tough Which you said that was uncalled Yeah The Spurs
Starting point is 03:02:30 Oh Zaza Kawai Probably Howard Howard Yeah Of all the names I mean Howard's probably the one you think of Stop
Starting point is 03:02:40 No not not No Not doing this No They're probably like I can't say without laughing That's a hard part is I can't sell it. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 03:02:52 He did bite, though. I could have got it. I got greedy. I wanted to go in for more. I wanted to say twice. If you were on the first time, you could have got it. I could have it. I did have him.
Starting point is 03:03:01 Oh, I was like a fish. It was on the line, but I let it go. My dumb ass Howard Stern. Howard Stern do. Oh, okay. For the Spurs. This is the perfect game to get me. It's Kuai.
Starting point is 03:03:15 It's Kauai. Yeah. Yeah, hands down. All right. the sons kady Kevin durand oh
Starting point is 03:03:25 do you have more smoke for katy or bradley beale oh they hate braddle bill might be a like that that might be a crime luca luca gave him face oh yeah
Starting point is 03:03:36 lukin game seven eight and over luka that's how you trigger them you gotta go to more to one word you just say you've picked jondra aiden over luka donchitch they'll never get over that another one word
Starting point is 03:03:46 Monty Monty everybody should go Monty's a fucking play. What was that broadcast called that had when Chris Paul cut the lead down? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:55 The YouTube video that says Chris Paul hits the three cuts the lead to 32 something like that. Definitely not one word but definitely pisses them off. It's Aiden because you gotta remind them they could have had Luca Donchitz
Starting point is 03:04:07 but they had a stupid as GM that said we can't have two guards we got to pair Devin Booker with his shack and they passed up on a generational player. Yeah. That's a true of you for eternity. Aetian. Aiden.
Starting point is 03:04:18 I think he traded him away. For the Unks, fraud MVP's. Tough. Next. The Hawks. Next team. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 03:04:30 The Cavs. How do you trigger the Cavs? What's the best way to trigger the Cavs? I would say just Steph Curry. The idea of Steph Curry will get LeBron fans and Cavs fans going forever. Wasn't he born in Cleveland, two or something? He was born in Akron. He was born in Akron.
Starting point is 03:04:49 Same place of LeBron. Yeah, just say Warriors or Curry or something to remind them of those duels. David Blatt. What's that? David Blatt. David Blatt's a decent one. Yeah. Anthony Bennett.
Starting point is 03:05:00 Oof. But nothing will ever sting to them more than the fact that Curry beat LeBron three times. And when it like teamed up like Katie went to go help Steph Curry beat LeBron. They could have mad rings. It was never going to happen on the Warriors watch. insane amount of rings. Steph Curry beat your goat three. Steph Curry like, in some part
Starting point is 03:05:24 ruined LeBron's goat legacy to some people. If LeBron would have won two of those rings, different world you live in as a Cavaliers fan as a LeBron fan. You gotta know that small guy over there that shoots all those jump shots did that to you single-handedly. I saw 2017 career highlights yesterday.
Starting point is 03:05:39 I saw it too. Special. Special. Last team should have won a championship. Definitely. Definitely. All right. Next. The Clippers. Oh, Los Angeles Clippers. Steve Bomber. Trees.
Starting point is 03:05:52 That's how you get them right now. If you talk about their aspiration shit, they get so mad. There is bullshit, I promise. Pablo Tori's just talking. Nothing will come from it until it does. Yeah, trees, aspiration, scammer, losers. It's a lot of words. Little brothers.
Starting point is 03:06:06 They don't like that. They don't like that at all. No fans. They're walking. They're the little brothers. Yeah. They're a team that just walks around and gets nuggied by their big brother team for 40 years in a row. even move stadiums
Starting point is 03:06:18 even when the big brother was out on some wild like wilderness retreat just throwing his life away doing nothing and you had an opportunity to be the favor in the family couldn't capitalize
Starting point is 03:06:30 your big bro made all the wrong choices for a decade was unemployed living on the mom's couch for a decade and you did not pass him up in life damn you stayed where you are doing darkness retreats
Starting point is 03:06:40 trying to find himself and you couldn't be the favorite thing he had no income Somehow you had less Going dates without showering And your logo sucks And your logo sucks I guess
Starting point is 03:06:53 Take that logo Take that Let's see The Timberwolves Hmm I'm a Timberwolves fan I would have said something Like KG related
Starting point is 03:07:07 But he's back in the fold now I don't know actually I feel like Timberwolves Don't have a lot of PTSD Compared to a lot of these teams They just sucked Oh They just sucked
Starting point is 03:07:16 Johnny Flynn Ah Johnny Flynn That's how you do it You had two opportunities To drop Steph Curry You drafted Johnny Flynn instead You took Ricky Rubio instead So know what you say
Starting point is 03:07:28 Point guards You think Wiggins aunts them? Probably not Probably not anymore No I feel like they moved on from it Yeah it wasn't too painful But Knowing that you could have had Steph Curry
Starting point is 03:07:39 That you pick two point guards Ahead of Steph Curry That's... Having two bites of the apple Like everybody passes up on great players You know once, twice At the same position You're just dumb
Starting point is 03:07:51 Back to back You're just kind of stupid You can't even argue it And doesn't it suck to just be kind of stupid And you can't argue it You just know I'm a dumbass Yeah You would have to put in a lot of work
Starting point is 03:08:05 To overcome being a dumbass Yeah You gotta read a lot of books As a dumbass myself Putting in a lot of work right now You're trying to better yourself Dude every time I push an IG reel this motherfucker can't read
Starting point is 03:08:16 That's that your new reputation of life The last video we did was Me and my wife I pick her next book read They go you should have picked The next book he should read Shut up Man
Starting point is 03:08:32 She's gonna pick you a coloring book My bad I made that up Next The Nuggets Denver Nuggets What do you say? Defense You mentioned Nicole Yoger's defense They start pulling out all the calculators in the world
Starting point is 03:08:46 to tell you it doesn't matter. Embed. Embed. They hate M. And today, Shea, they hate that Shay is getting MVP's off in Yokic's era. Specifically, that 2023 MVP. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:08:58 That was probably the most toxic I've ever seen. Honestly, for a Yokch fan, say anything negative or anything positive by any other player and they get mad. If you're not calling No Col Yokish, the greatest player of all time, they're pissed. They're in Serbia, writing your name in the death note. Marcus Morris. Moors twins.
Starting point is 03:09:13 Mm-hmm. Morris I Morseye. Morseye. Hate him both. 76ers. It's the last one. Markell.
Starting point is 03:09:25 Markle. Just the process. The process. That's triggering. Same hinky? Hinky. Hinky. Hinky.
Starting point is 03:09:33 They killed a genius before he could read the benefits that he sowed. The genius. Oh, oh. They did him dirty in Michael Lai. Whatever. Kauai shot.
Starting point is 03:09:41 What? Comeo for another day. Comeo for another day. Man went in front of the country was like, I'm a lose. And it was like, how dare you? That's crazy. And I look around the league. That's crazy.
Starting point is 03:09:53 I don't see Danny Aangling thrown under a train. That's crazy. I did. I throw Danny under several trains. That's ridiculous. What? Okay. So your argument is we should just kill more GMs.
Starting point is 03:10:08 Yes. Oh, in that case, the most triggering thing is, yes. Doink, doink, doink. bang, Coile Leonard 3 sending you home Doing, doy, do you walk around the city of Philly, you say doink, doink, doink, it's over. Ben Simmons.
Starting point is 03:10:24 Just number one picks in general. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, my bet. Tobias Harris. Mm, over me. Tobias Harris? They got a lot of trauma in Philly. We just named like seven things. All valid.
Starting point is 03:10:36 And all like fairly recent, too. They've had a rough 15 years. I would hate to be from Philly in the last 15 years. That's running. They don't drop 50 on their head. Even just like Embed injuries is tough. How to trigger Philadelphia's 76ers fan? Remind them that their existence.
Starting point is 03:10:57 Remind them that they're Sixers fans. That enough will, all of this will flow through their minds. Oh, wait, we did do that. And that, and that, and that, and that, and that. Another sad. But also, they have like a, like a callous to them where they just, they've been hurt by so much, nothing hurts them anymore. They kind of just walk around and expecting to get stabbed.
Starting point is 03:11:16 Nah, they cut that callus open every, every month. They let themselves get it. Yeah, okay. That scab is not healed yet. Nope. Because they keep all picking out of it. They took another bust. Damn it.
Starting point is 03:11:31 At another. It's still bleeding. Fuck. You started scratching your face. I felt that like on my body. I was like, oh, this nasty. Is that the last one? Yeah, that's the last one.
Starting point is 03:11:45 That's funny. And let's end this up. If people are still here, what should they comment? Comment on what you're... Let me know, don't comment any one thing. Give us your current assessment of B. Souls reading improvements via the unscramble challenge. Let me know like 1 to 10
Starting point is 03:11:58 how much improvement B. Souls has made as a reader. What you suggest for him to continue his reading adventure, improvements, journey? Yes. What's the next steps for him? Right, the next steps for me. Maybe like reading the autobiography, Malcolm X? Whoa.
Starting point is 03:12:14 Dr. Seuss. Okay. Baby steps. I almost threw you in the deep end. I almost threw you on Mike Tyson. Summer Reading Club on the way. But not really. No.
Starting point is 03:12:26 Cat in the head's the first book. We'll have a discussion in the month. When we get to Junie B. Jones, his life's going to be fucked up. He's been mind-blown. We'll see y'all next week. That would be here for the summer. He's like,
Starting point is 03:12:39 Poh.

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