The Deep 3 Podcast - The NBA Has A New King | Ep. 38
Episode Date: May 26, 2023Nikola Jokic is now the king of the NBA. #nba Sign up for Underdog Fantasy today with promo code "TD3" to double your first deposit! ⬇️ https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-the-deep3 Join the TD3 Di...scord!: https://discord.gg/e63QYQYrVA Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- The Nuggets are amazing 21:35- What's next for the Lakers? 39:37- Celtics vs Heat 50:28- Will LeBron RETIRE? 55:43- TikTok Segments Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So last week, we opened the pot off by me declaring that Nicola Yokic is the best player in the world.
And since then, they went on to sweep the Los Angeles Lakers with an utterly dominant performance from him and Jamal Murray.
And I think we have to open the show talking about this team.
And they're just incredible run to the finals.
Yeah, apparently.
Listen, apparently we're the only ones talking about the Nuggets.
Apparently nobody's talking about the Nets in NBA media.
Yeah, you asked Michael Malone, and he's never once seen his team on sports center.
yeah that is hilarious right embarrassing nasty work but hey people got to say whatever to motivate
themselves but i for one of the like to say two months ago or so i declared nicolyokic
is probably the best player in the NBA and i do indeed want my cookie venmo okay you're right
i agree you're really and listen i've been called a yokech glazer many times in the
comment section of the pod all the shorts so for now it feels good if they lose the finals then
now we'll feel fucking horrible, but for now, we're feeling good as a very pro-yokish podcast.
This is your time to shine, Isaac.
Yeah, Donovan was joking about it, talking about how there's been a lot of narratives lately
that nobody talks about the Nuggets, which to some extent is true.
They're overlooked.
So let's do our part, and let's do our, giving their respects, and let's focus on them to begin the show.
Let's talk about it.
Let's do it.
What was your biggest takeaway from the sweep?
Because a lot of the talk about the Lakers and how LeBron looked old and 80 was ghost mode
in the game four, we'll get to them.
How are you feeling about the Nuggets in the positive way
and how in terms of them dominating?
The championship is theirs to lose.
Like, it's very, very simple.
I don't, I think at this point, like,
even if Miami, like, gets passed and could,
Miami, they played tonight, they ended up losing tonight.
We're going to talk about them later.
But I think if even Miami or Boston gets out of this series,
right now I think I might take Denver in five,
just because they look,
yeah, they look extremely complete on both ends.
Jamal is who've been out and the thing that we've been saying for two years like if you get Yokic
any kind of help then like the Nuggets can do something they're doing something like Jamal
Jamal's dropping 30 nearly every other half in in the playoffs it's ridiculous Aaron Gordon's
defense is fantastic Michael Bode Jr's knocking down threes Bruce Brown seems to be doing a little bit
of everything like he him and also KCP KCP and I've seen a lot I've seen a lot of Lakers fans
upset because they've seen like a version of kCP in denver that they kind of wanted in
la and it's just like that's just possible now because you have a seven foot you know
walking 30 30 point triple double the floor is just so open all the time like i'm glad you said
this everybody gets the best version themselves with yokic yokech knows exactly how to feed people
the type of shots that they like every mpj lexie shots in the corner coming off of the screen
yokish knows how to give them to them kCP likes to attack close outs these little mid-range pull-ups
Yokish knows how to get it to him.
He's perfect with that.
Yeah.
It is the Nuggets champion.
Oh, wow.
It is the Nuggets championship to lose.
And they have it.
They, like, this is one of the best playoff friends that we've ever seen.
And I will, I'll say that.
I think that Michael Malone is a little bit, like, fooling himself.
He has to do the thing that, like, that a lot of coaches do is like, oh, it's against the world.
Nobody believes in us, right?
Like, you kind of always have to keep that.
The one thing that he will be right on is that I don't think a lot of people are talking about Yokic's postseason in the context of like a historical, you know, context.
And I think that is where we can 100% like spend a lot of time today or even just moving forward.
Because what he's doing is crazy.
A 30 point triple double for the playoffs.
Nuts.
That's crazy.
What the efficiency that he's been going with in terms of just like getting the job done regards of the fact.
Like I would say during.
this playoff run he's had like a lot of like nasty like efficiency games like he's some
nights he shoots like eight for 20 or whatever which is just incredibly odd especially for someone
like yokech who in the regular season went on an insanely he went on an insane tear of shooting like
i don't know a large chunk of the season without shooting under 50% from the field it's weird
but yeah been getting the job done every night and you mentioned for two seconds donovan just
how elite
Jamal Murray has been
he's been averaging 28 points
damn near 40%
shooting from the field
and six assists he has been
on a dis he's been
he's been everything you want him to be
and it's super inspiring
to see him just do his thing
because a couple
rumors came out
over the last few days
when they whipped the Lakers ass
that he thought that he was
damaged goods
for a second
Michael Mohn had a potential option
to go ahead and trade
Jamal Murray for
I'm assuming a guard
like Kyrie Irving a couple years ago
back when he had his fiasco or whatever
and Mike Mullen was like
no I'd rather go ahead and keep this
doing he did he did what was right
and seeing Jamal Murray like
fulfill live up to his potential
but still yet
it's really awkward to say his potential
still might not be good enough to be
an all-star in the Western Conference
maybe it will be after this
post-season run
because of all the respect and credibility that he will have now.
But everything is clicking on all angles and cylinders.
And I feel like, bro, Aaron Gordon, he actually did his thing to game four against the Lakers.
You know, and when he's in threes like that, it's like, well, now you're done.
Yeah.
I'm glad you mentioned Jamal Murray scoring 28 points per game now.
And then you said he's not good enough to be an all-star, but that's the thing.
He wasn't good enough to be an all-star in the regular season.
He wasn't.
Like, it's not like he was like Rob didn't get the respect he needed.
He averaged 22 points for game.
He was a very good player, but there was 12 other players more deserving.
So the point I'm saying that is he's proven to be now one of the best playoff risers we've seen.
We're talking about playoff Jimmy being a real thing.
We talked about playoff Rondo a few years ago when he was killing it for the Lakers.
Like, there's been a few players that have gotten that playoff moniker.
Jamal Murray is the one who deserves that now.
I think I saw a TikTok that was listing the top five players in terms of points for a game jumps from the regular season to playoffs.
And he was in that top five.
Like, it's very rare to jump from a 22.3 game score to 28, 29.
That's literally the same thing Jimmy Butler does.
So, yeah, I mean, listen, his shot and, like, also just the way that the Nuggets play and the way that, like, Yokch wants to play,
Yokic wants to be, right, at the top of the key, he wants to be finding everybody else.
And in the playoffs, when you have to just go and get buckets and you look at, like, the Nuggets roster,
like, Aaron Gordon is not a bucket getter, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Right, MPJ, he could do some stuff, but he's not, he doesn't have, like, the bag that, that Jamal Murray would, listen, you ask him, he's the bucket getter. He is Tracy McGrady incarnate.
Again, that's, that's him. But if you are watching, if you watch him on the outside, like, he's just, he's not, he's not like that. Obviously, like, Casey P, he's not necessarily like that. So I also think that the nuggets and the roster construction puts Jamal in a, in like a perfect situation arise, because creating, creating stuff off the dribble on the perimeter, that's his job, right?
Yokic and we've seen Yokic a bunch of times these playoffs where he's like I'm not going to mess around outside like I'm just going to bully ball and I'll get my points down low and now Jamal is perfectly set up to do all that stuff outside so like it makes sense why he why he rises because they lean on him a little bit more yeah and like teams give so much attention to Yokic they do it's a heavy dribble handoff team and whenever you do a dribble handoff from Nicole Yokic one he's massive sets amazing screens two these teams are so scared of him getting any separation and
creating offense for him and others that they just like stare at him it's almost like a
step gravity thing where when he's running off screens he draws two defenders eyes and other people
get open because of it it's real similar with these handoffs for yokech so joan murray's often
just like walking into wide-up and pull-up shots and he's incredible at those so combine that
they're just the perfect fit and so i want to segue that into asking you moe in terms of best
duo is in the league where do these guys rank now in other words seeing them the two
the last few times they've been the playoffs they've been killing everybody no one ever thinks
of them as one of the best
duos in the NBA ever. I never
heard these two ever been brought up
in that kind of like either oh
LeBron and AD, Kowai and Paul
George Jason Tatum Jalen Brown
and this duo washes that duo
if we're being 110% real
so they're easy like fell off for two years
so people forgot about him. Yeah
exactly. I think he's
easily those two they're easily
like top three. The thing about Jamal
Murray is like
he has he can get a bucket
in so many ways he's not he's a he's a one of the best three three level scores and because of
that his range the athleticism two on him he's one of the he's not a huge point guard but he's one
of the bigger more filled out point yards in the NBA today as well so like he's everything he's
the exact type of finger you want alongside yokets and like for sure i just definitely the duo everything
that yokech is good at and murray is not like they complement each other extremely well
And that's what duos, this is, this is what duels is truly about.
Exactly.
I'm glad you said that.
It's very similar to Janus and Chris Middleton, where they're one of the top duos,
even though there's other duos who have two players that are higher caliber than Chris
Middleton.
So, like, on paper, there's, there's duos out there that have two top 15 players, but
Yonis and Chris Milton are still better, even though Chris Middleton's like a top 30 guy,
because the fit is so perfect, it's super similar with this duo.
Like, which one's better, Janice and Chris Middleton or Yonich and Jamal Murray?
Who's better?
It's tough.
This depends on how you feel about these players.
Okay, right now it's obviously them because Chris Middleton's been to shell himself and he's been injured.
Assuming he's healthy, then which duo is better?
I think if Jamal Murray was in the Eastern Conference, he would have the same amount of, probably the same amount of all-sarrances.
Yeah, Cassing and respect.
He might have it after the win the championship, too.
Yeah.
I think Jamal Murray's going to finish all-time a better player than Chris Middleton.
that's a disgusting like verb is to say
I know
I know it's nasty
I know but that's just the kind of man I am
shame me I'll hold it with my test
honestly I think I'd rather have that
duo than Janice and Chris Middleton
just because the gap is I mean there's a tiny
gap between Jamal Murray
and Chris Middleton to be honest
and there's still a ceiling for Jamal Moore
to keep getting better too like I said
he missed a year and a half like
if that never happened like
man if God didn't hate Nicole
if God didn't hate Jamal Murray's knees
he would be on such a trajectory right now
he would have made an all-star by now
he'd be being talked about is like one of the better point guards
in the league I think bro no no no no no no no no I remember
back in 2020 bubble
what the fuck was talking about how this man was better than
Trey Young and so many other young good
young point guards he was
respected
yeah for sure but like imagine that didn't die off
because he missed a year and a half
he would be in a very high echelon right now
plus he would have more time to develop and not lose
at the time like
we we missed out on some on some runs with these two guys
yeah and then the Jamal or the John Morant started his leap as was for real
Triangles doing phenomenal things in 2021 and then there's the Melville's to the world
Tyrese Halliburton oh god other other note though I'm talking about you miss runs with
these two guys because he was hurt but you could also argue that him being out kind of like
force yoke should take more leaps and become the better more aggressive
score he is today that maybe without that this team isn't who it is maybe they
wouldn't have erin gordon already maybe yokech wouldn't be like the top tier guy he is now
i think when it comes to scoring i think he always did have it but i feel like back then he would
just defer too much and even times yeah i still think he has that issue once in a while
but like i i think he has a better sense of when to turn it on and turn it off and when he
he need he if i feel like he knows when he needs to get things going himself rather than trying
to look out for other people on his team yeah 100% 100% i think i mean we saw that in game
three though in game three of the lakers series like his first half was trash and then and then
the second half he just looks he just looks around he's like all right like i you know lean
that you know that that mean yeah where people just lean forward playing too okay that was yogic
in the second half of game three he's like okay i'll just turn it on and it's funny because like he
ends up with 24, 8, and 6, and it's like, wow, that's such a disappointing game for Yokic.
And it's like, I don't know, he definitely is the best player in the world right now.
I think he is one of the most reliable.
And one of the things that is probably a little bit underlooked is like, because his game is not based on athleticism and because he's not moving around jumping up and down,
I don't think that there's like, obviously, I'm not, I'm not a doctor, so this is just like
armchair science, but like I, but like, I don't think that there's like the possibility for
like a major injury is there the same way they would be for like a yannis or people that we
see like with Jaya or Zion and they're just like jumping, you know, just jumping out the gym.
And so for Yokin's the durability factor, that 100%.
In a league now where we see guys missing 20 to 25 games every single season and like,
For the Lakers and for the Sons, two of my big, big points for them coming into the playoffs.
I don't trust them because I don't think that their stars are going to be healthy.
I never have that concern with Yokic.
Like, I think that Yokic is going to be able to play every single game, which is massive.
And it's something that you don't see with every star.
And so, like, if you put his talent and the availability factor, I don't think that.
Also, mad clutch as well.
Like, if you put the ball into Yokch's hands in the last five, in the last five,
in the last you know five minutes whatever it is you feel comfortable with him taking any
shot on the floor the only thing that he doesn't have is elite defense but everything else is
so much better than everybody else that it makes up for it so like yeah he's he's won and with
this championship i i don't we'll we'll see how we'll see how we'll cross that road we get there
yeah we'll see how i feel about the championship because i'll have plenty time for all-time
conversations i was about to say say say
something crazy. So we'll wait about another
two weeks for that. Hey, you good. I took
a couple months ago in this podcast before
all this shit happened. Man,
I remember you said something like, Yoke's
Gilly one of the best offensive players of all
time, which I didn't think you're wrong.
No, I didn't think you're wrong, but I'm just like, you know,
now it's not the time yet that save those conversations.
Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.
He is a basketball genius, and we've only
ever seen people on that level be LeBron
James, Magic Johnson, maybe Steph Curry.
the way you look at it.
He is, in terms of basketball minds, cream of the crop.
He's literally the most efficient volume score in the NBA.
A 70% true shooting percentage for most this year
while scoring 25 points per game is utterly fucking ridiculous.
That's like 2016 Steph Curry level stuff.
While leading the, being won the top three in the league in assists,
and probably the best passer in terms of like raw passing ability,
not just playmaking, while being an elite rebounder,
someone who makes his teammates better,
he's easily a top five offensive player of all time.
Easily top five.
Easily, easily.
When you look back at this three-year run,
I'm just saying it ends now,
he doesn't have a seven-year run.
Look at this three-year run,
the two MVP and the second MVP,
compare that to any three-year run
in NBA history,
you're not going to find five more impressive offensively.
Yep, and the crayon eaters are going to hear that.
They might clip at eyes.
And be like, ain't no way he's fin of heat.
Ain't no way you'll get some tween has he cross-a-case.
zero chancing up in an offensive player.
Full package, I think you're 100% right.
So am I a crayon eater if I don't like,
if I don't 100% agree, like off-rip?
It's low-key.
It's almost objective pretty soon.
Especially Wednesday.
When he has a title, it's going to be really easy.
Like, okay, think about it.
Let's think about it.
Let's do this mental exercise right now.
You could say, okay, we'll go prime Jordan.
Let's give him the benefit of down.
Jordan LeBron.
The four off the top of my head are Jordan,
Braun, Magic, Steph.
I think you could say Yokish is a better offensive player than Magic
because the scoring is so much better
I think you could say Yokish is better offensive player than magic
which I know is crazy because magic is so great and stuff
and Yokic his defense is one of a good defenders
but his defense weighs him down more because he's a big
so he's not obviously got to give magic the respect
but if we're going to peak for peak it's not crazy to say Yok
is just a good offensive player
I don't know I don't know
I have to I obviously he's close I don't know if it's like
a no-brainer the way that you say obviously like this is on the spot you come back to me
next week maybe is top 10 a no-brainer oh of course not for you donovan yeah i know i know maybe
he's still thinking about it wow i guess i guess i guess i guess it's not i guess it's not a no-brainer
because i have to i like i want to have time to to think about it but i don't think it's
crazy to say think about this way think about this way how many players have ever been a top three
pass here and top three score at the same time i
Isaac has had this entire rant written down in his journal.
No, he has.
Underneath his bed for years, bro.
I'm unprepared.
This is an ambush.
How many players have ever been a top three score and a top three playmaker at the same time?
I'll get back to you next week.
It's LeBron James.
Him LeBron and Hardin and Hardin is awful in the playoffs, so he can't be out there.
Yeah.
Not a lot of people on this list.
All I'm thinking about is, Zabron, to be honest.
I think it's probably Jordan, Steph, Yokich.
whatever order that's the top tier
I think that's fair
to say to be honest with you
in terms of
playing ball in the basket
and being able to just
have defenses
constantly on their feet
and bending and warping defenses
and having each and every defense in hell
like
I think you're
that's very fair
King O'em is that
he's
Yokit is like that
and people have been
going so hard against him and like i remember i haven't seen any analytical stats or anything like
that those type of people like bring up those arguments and how people are like oh like those
that's the only reason why yoke's is great you're using warp and lelbron stat and blahze blah
i like seeing the haters succumb to his greatness yeah it was always so dumb the narrative was
that he's only good because advanced stats like a 30 point triple double is suddenly not
impressive like those are regular ass stats and he's incredible with them yeah
Exactly.
It's got a nasty on that side.
I love to see it.
Yeah, man.
Let's talk about the other team in this series.
Real quick, I just, real, real, real quick for, like, just one second.
I just have to go off on a minor tangent that I have to start off with the, with Mike Malone and the Nuggets.
Shout out to him for the entire culture that he's created over there.
Because of this new trend and wave that we've seen in the NBA with all these coaches being fired,
Monty Williams,
Co. Mike
Bonnerosa, Nick Nurse,
and just all these coaches
who have proven track records
and now you actually
have won coaches of the year
over the last few years.
Because of this dangerous territory
we're in the NBA,
I see a lot of coaches
having a lot shorter release.
And because of that,
the culture,
it looks like a lot of teams
aren't valuing
culture being allowed to be built.
And in my mind,
And if we're in this space currently with all these front offices, Eric Spolcher, back in 2011,
if he would have done something, if LeBron would have did what he did back then in this age,
Eric Spoltser wouldn't be a coach anymore.
And that's a great just to think about, you know.
And I just have a lot of interesting thoughts about these front offices just being willing to tie,
just to end ties with these coaches so fast.
I think they're shooting the cells in the foot long run.
You know what that sounds like to me?
It sounds like the wonderful topic for a mojo.
299 YouTube video
Maybe actually you're right
I got to write this shit on my board
subscribe to the personal channel but you're right
We're in a weird space for coaching right now
And the fact that Malone and Spolshare are going to be the final two
Is it going to be showing a lot for the value of continuity and culture like you're saying
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The butt blasted is a crazy term
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none of my bag
Where's my pen and paper
Oh my shit
I got a lot of these euphemisms out there
Don't remember
Oh god
Let's talk about it
See ya man
The Los Angeles Lakers
Tonight is a eulogy
For their season
They
As you guys know
Lost in 4
Got destroyed by the Denver Nuggets
I shouldn't even say destroyed
Because every game was close
But the Nuggets were just better
And pulled out every single game
That was the greatest sweep
I seen in my life
Alice off the end of the seat every game.
Yeah, man, it was four straight, closed games
and the nuggets came out on top of.
So, question to you guys,
what is your overall feeling
about this Lakers season?
Okay, so there's two sides of it.
I think one, on one side,
if you look at it from start
to finish, it is a disappointment
because I think,
yes, even though that they made
the Western Conference finals,
I think it's a disappointment because they spent
a lot of time in the beginning of the season, wasting it with the roster that they had put
together doing moves that basically everybody had said coming into the season, you need to get
rid of Russell Westbrook, you need to put shooters around LeBron James, and you waited too far into
the season. Had LeBron and AD running Madman is putting a lot of pressure on them, you could have had
a lot more continuity going into the playoffs. Obviously, you still got here, but I think that
I think that things could have been a little bit better for them at the start of the season.
And so maybe they could have been in a position where they didn't have to,
where they could have had like home court advantage in a situation, right?
Like things, I feel like from start to finish, there was a lot of drama.
There was a lot of up and downs.
It was very, very rocky for the Lakers.
However, I, for one, I know a lot of other people did not expect the Lakers to make it this far.
I thought that they were going to lose
in the first round initially
changed it after game one
but like
everything post all-star break
is a complete success
right
like to every
if you're looking at it from that standpoint
for them to be able to make the run
initially to get into the playoffs
into the playing that's great
you beat the you beat the Warriors in six
when everybody was saying that the Warriors were going to win
you play the Nuggets semi close
like that's cool right
made to the conference finals
it
as a as a as a lakers fan
I can understand
why you would have hope
after the season
I don't think I don't think that you should
but I understand why you see it
why you could see that way
but I love this man
I'll get to it
I feel like my point
we've never once had a lakers conversation
where Donovan doesn't doubt them
in any capacity
always just always got something bad to say
what's your what's your final takeaway
for his liquor season
I completely disagree with Donovan.
I think this season was a massive success.
They were fucking 25 and 27, I think, towards a hat.
I think they're 25 and 27 by the time they made that trade, I believe, at the top of my head.
And then they finished with, like, they were one of the five best teams in the league, I believe, off the top of my head once they, like, fully implemented DeAngel Russell, Van Doe, and all the boys.
And so at the start of the season, like, going through all these injuries of Braun out, ADL, AD playing like Jesus Christ.
LeBron like moving different towards the beginning of the season and then just with all the
lows the highs and lows I think everybody fully understood that this was a cooked product
and there's nothing to root about or have any real like any real like optimism for whatsoever
for what they don't deserve it but um fighting so hard and making it through the first
first off there are a playing team I think I feel I think that happened so long ago
It was just earlier this month or sometime in April where me, Isaac, and Josh S were watching the most egregious basketball played ever.
It felt like a junior varsity high school game, bro.
It was nasty.
LeBron was fighting for his life against Torian Prince, bro.
Torian Prince is sweeping his ass off.
Nas Reed was giving them the business.
And, yeah, boy, like that.
But, God, it shouldn't be like that.
And so for them to fight so hard to get to this.
point like this season is nothing but a magic success but at the same time like
because of the massive success and all the players like Austin raised and whatnot like
I don't know how they can continue to build upon this that's going to be very tricky
okay yeah as a Lakers fan obviously I'm doing some water real quick I was sad when
they got swept for sure didn't feel great I was I had kind of told myself not to get
too excited by this team but a little bit of
about me thought they could make a run, you know, going to the series, I was like, it's not
impossible to beat the Nuggets. Like, they have some matchable advantages. Didn't end up being the
case, mostly because LeBron didn't look like LeBron. But once I took a step back and got over the
sadness of the fact that season's over, this season was a resounding success. You'd nothing
really be upset about. In the day, they lost to the best team of the NBA by far, the team
that's going to win the championship. We're going to look back in a few months and be like,
it's no sore spot in anybody's resume to lose to the Denver Nuggets. Everybody's not
some different nuggets.
And outside of that, when we talk about the season totality, Donovan said they wasted too much
time being bad to start the year.
I don't think they had a choice.
You know, like, if they could have made a good deal to start the season to get rid of
rest before the season started, they would have.
There just wasn't a good deal out there.
The market didn't offer that possibility.
So they started two in ten.
Like, they're two in ten to start the season and then make the Western Conference finals.
It's incredible.
Incredible.
And like, you said they wasted time and they could have been better.
they got 10 games under 500
in the first 15 game stretch
that's where the pit was dug
after that they kind of
they got back to being 500 almost
when they traded Russ
so they didn't lose a lot of ground
that time where even if you'd argue
they should have made the trade in like December
so regardless
the best deal was going to be there
at the trade deadline
they made it
and as a Lakers fan who wanted Russ
gone they made it when they could have
and the deals they made were
incredible right
it led to the Western Conference finals
they got young role players
who fit around
LeBron and AD perfectly.
They let Austin Reeves breathe and thrive
because he doesn't have to give up touches
to Russell Westbrook anymore.
He came into his own as a playmaker.
Rui, they got for fucking free
for two second round picks.
He looks like he's going to be an addition
that's going to be with this team for a long time.
Vando had some regular season contributions.
Deal game clutch against the Grizzlies.
I don't see any reason to be upset with anything.
The real thing to talk about is that
it's highly unfortunate that LeBron heard his foot
before the playoffs started,
so we couldn't see early season LeBron in the playoffs.
we're all talking about how washi looks
a lot of people were saying like his days
as a dominant player behind him
he was playing with a torn ligament in his foot
I think he'll be better next year
so with that in mind
another year to gel with the team chemistry wise
they're going to keep Reeves keep Rui
I see a lot of reason to be hopeful for next year
they got to throw a bag at Reeves
though
so they can match anything like
no matter what they're going to match him
he's a restrictive free agent
support the next year you're going to have a healthy
LeBron who's a year older though but we'll see
how that goes 80's going to be AD
he's going to be the 10th to
15th best player in the league, whatever it is,
have his regular inconsistencies, that's fine.
Reason to continue to blossom into their
secondary playmaker, Ruey's going to be their
starting three, they're going to have
more role players so they have a full mid-level exception
to bring in somebody solid. Maybe they make a
kaii move, who knows?
I don't see any reason to be upset as a Lakers fan.
Okay, before I...
Shit on him, Donovan. No, no, no, no, no.
Not yet, not yet.
But before I go into it,
I need to know in which
world we're going to be operating in.
Will Kyrie Irving be on the Lakers
next year?
Honestly, I think it's probably like a
No, more likely not.
Let's assume he stays a boss
to get the Mavs because they can't afford to lose them
so they're going to offer him a fat-ass contract
that they're going to regret, but they're going to keep them.
Okay.
The Lakers, no Kyrie next year.
I think that
for the Lakers to win a championship,
I honestly think that this was their best.
Like, I don't, I don't think that they
are going to be in the championship winning business
for the rest of LeBron's career out there.
They can certainly make a couple runs,
but in terms of like getting to the finals winning championships,
I don't think that's in the cards.
And the one reason that I don't is because of LeBron and AD.
And we said, or at least I did,
I'm not picking the Lakers to win a championship,
and I'm not picking them to go far because I don't trust LeBron and AD to stay healthy for two straight months, right?
And here we go again, they couldn't do it.
And even though that AD stayed healthy, LeBron did.
LeBron's going to be 39 years old next year.
He has not played a lot of games over the last three, four years.
Anthony Davis has not played a lot of games.
And this was one of the rare times in the last, what, four years?
that Anthony Davis has been able to stay healthy for an entire playoff,
uh,
playoff run. I think that's a major,
I think that that's a major concern for the Lakers. And so like,
and you say it's okay that Anthony Davis is like,
like he's going to have his inconsistencies. We rattled off the inconsistencies that
he had this, this, this, this run. And it's,
it's, it would be something different if it was like, okay, like he's going to have like
one bad game every, every, every series like he's going to have a stinker,
offensively at least because defensively i'm not going to say anything about his defense
otherworldly right offensively though as the number two option literally every other game
he was he was he was he was he was terrible and it's like i don't think that that is a sustainable
model for your second best player to be that inconsistent when your best player is also probably
going to be fighting through some through some injuries yeah i get that i just i don't feel the need to
harp on it because
202080 isn't walking
through those doors
it's who he is now
he's not the top five
player he once was
he lost
he's not aging incredibly well
he's lost the step
of athleticism
because he's put on weight
he's not as quick as he once was
not as high flying
the jump shot fell off
a cliff for no reason
that has made him
not a consistent score anymore
and it is what it is
that's why he's like
the 12th best player
in the world instead of the fifth
so I don't even feel
to need to harp on him for it
I don't I don't feel like
it but that's the thing
it's not like
it's not harping on it
it's it's
the it's a reason like it's a it's a serious flaw that i get that you know what i'm saying like that's a that's a
that's a real thing that anthony davis and that the lakers have to now game plan and scheme around
that this that your second best player is probably going to score 10 points every other night in a
playoff series and so like if you're if if if ad is going to give them two games every series
and now you like have to now you have to figure out okay like is ruhrer hachamora is like
is he going to be the same ruri or is he going to be the guy that we saw in washington for for six
year's like this the runs that they got this year felt very best case scenario from the other
guys right minus mine minus dilo mine that's a big minus right delo was unplayable banderbilt was
unplayable he's that's that's deal's actually like that's who he is like he's every every play
every playoff run that he has he has had these series where he's played for the other team right
Oh, my God.
So, like, so, like, Rui over, I think Rui overperformed.
I think Reeves is, like, on the way up.
Like, Reeves is, like, actually good.
Yeah, he's legit.
Yeah.
But there's a, there's a lot of ifs with the Lakers and a lot of, and a lot of the
ifs, at least at the top are, are the guys going to be there?
And I don't think that I can trust that.
And I think that that's a serious concern.
So that's why I'm not, that's why I'm not confident in them winning championships
after this.
For sure.
Yeah, but nobody is.
nobody like that's positive is saying they're going to be a championship favorite next year that's like not the standard they're up to you not not faith even even not even not favorite even teams be a five seed you okay so five seed so if they don't win any more champions they're going to be three or four seed if they're healthy if they don't win any more championships in the lebron ad era would you be upset i mean that's a weird question because i'm a lakers fan like yeah i'll be upset but like will it be surprised no i think the standard i'm saying that me and everybody else is hopeful for them is that they're going to
be the mix like they're going to be a contender that is the third through fifth best team in the west
something in that range they can beat the grislies beat the warriors they're not a lot of juggernauts
coming in next year like the nuggets you're looking at the nuggets the clippers still are still going to be
consistent the grisies are still going to be young the warriors falling off i mean you say that but
there's i feel like there's going to be a lot of shifting because who knows it's going to happen
the boston seas i feel like jane brown's a key factor and all that but regardless of fact
i said okay she's coming next year okay okay okay okay
Next year's not their year.
For the next year's not the year for 10, but I see what you mean.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
They're coming, but they don't really move me personally.
I'm a believer in Josh Gidea, though.
Shout to him, but I feel like.
I am moved.
Two more years, it'll be their time.
I am moved.
I am not moved.
Danlin Williams moves me, though.
But anyways, whereas in fact.
Is when they're going to be, for real.
Ooh, I forgot about Ted.
I forget even eating this, bro.
These off-season pods are going to hit.
I fucking, ah, God.
Anyways, I feel like now that, now the Lakers have,
They see the recipe, they see the vision, they see that they need to keep this youth that they have and continue to build on it.
And I feel like although like AD, LeBron, they're going to be in and out consistently throughout the line, potentially, possibly who knows, that's the reality you're going to have to face.
And all you can do is just continue to optimize and move with your best foot forward.
And if they reassign Austin Reeves, like they 110% should, hopefully retain Lonnie Walker.
might be gone who knows who knows the case may be but if not find your
mleek monk no line walker 3.0 go ahead like find de janez russell he need to kick
rocks he needs to be banned from that facility um but continue to build on these little
things to keep dennis shorter because he's a good great in grind guard i think they're in a
great spot overall bro yeah and yeah like i said they're not going to be the Denver
nuggets i don't know who the number two team is going to be out there next year but like
they're going to be solidly in the mix
and if early season
LeBron is back next year
and he doesn't have his foot injury
and he can look like
we can get another good injury luck season from them
they have as good a chance as most teams
and that's all it's going to be
like you said the days of them
being the runaway favorites are behind us
like that's just not going to be the reality
unless they go out and get Kyrie
and somehow build a perfect team around them
then maybe we can get there
and maybe you could argue that
since you don't feel good about AD being your go-to score anymore
maybe that motivates you to go and try to get Kyrie
because maybe you feel like you have to have that star power now
I would understand that
but yeah yeah it's just a matter of expectations i don't expect the highest of highs from them
okay listen listen as long as we're not going into next season expecting the lakers to be like
to to to be like okay well they made the west of conference finals last year so like we're gonna
we're gonna build off of that and we're going to get to the finals that i think is is naive and
childish to do but see i don't think it's naive to think they can make the conference finals again
at that point
you have a punch
of chance
like who knows
I don't think
he's naive
to think it's possible
it would be naive
to pick them
as like the favorites
to make the finals
then yeah
but to think
that like
they could be in the mix
to do the same
they did this year
and at that point
potentially get by
depending on the matchup
I don't think
that's naive at all
I disagree
I disagree
but again
I'm not predicting it
just saying they have a chance
I think that's a very
different thing
I listen
mathematically you're correct
like if we're actually
like talking because they're going to have to play the nuggets sometime next year right unless
something crazy happens like you know like what happened to the to the bucks issue you never know
right that's the point you never know what happens injury wise every team the league so that's why
you be in the mix is a good thing yeah exactly you never know cars breaking weird ways in the NBA
okay listen however whenever we make our predictions we never predict stuff like oh yeah
well this person's good this person is going to get hurt so then they'll face them and
sure for sure every
every prediction is always barring injury.
So I'm saying barring injury,
I think it is naive to think that the Lakers
actually have a chance at making the finals next year.
Yeah, and I don't know what I mean to say you should predict it.
I'm just saying like,
that's why I'm saying there's value into being in the mix as a fan
because all you can do is if you're a team
that's not going to be the favorite in the conference,
try to be in that mix,
three to five range or whatever it is,
and then hope things break your way.
Some team gets lucky every now and then.
The heat made the finals two years ago
because Yonis got hurt in the beginning of the bubble,
and the bucks got swatted
and things broke their way
even though they weren't supposed to be
the one seed or anything like that.
You never know what things are going to break.
Who was the one seed that year?
Was it the one seat that year?
No.
I have no idea.
No, it was them.
I'm saying it was them.
But they weren't supposed to be going to the season,
but all they did was load up and be talented
and it worked out for them that year.
They were the one seed
but weren't predicting to be the conference championships at all.
That's how it went.
I was a no,
where they did the year after that.
I think you're right.
You're right.
They were the one seed last year.
Whether he were the one seed last year?
No way.
Yeah.
No, I think it was two years ago.
Who knows, man.
The heat are just the fucking heat.
They're perpetually around.
They're just around, bro. That's a perfect opportunity.
Let's talk about the Miami Heat and the Boston Celtics.
Because two days ago, we thought this conversation was going to be easy.
The Celtics had gone down 3-0.
It looked like the heat were going to trance their way through them and go straight into the finals.
But now, the Boston.
and Celtics have won two straight games
and currently trail the heat three to two
and there's a lot of chatter right now
a lot of chatter right now
about potentially seeing the first
three oh comeback in NBA history
everyone's saying if you're ever going to see it
this would be the circumstance
relax relax relax relax relax relax
if there was any team to do that
we have to be real it'll probably be this team
but while I say that
Donovan did give me some very interesting
information and that is causing
me to hold my horses
what I said now
oh you told me
me that uh i'm gonna let you speak on your business first i don't want to go ahead and give out your
give out your bag but regards to the facts i forgot what i say i just be talking sometimes uh bro
this team whooped the heat's ass now yes the he Miami wasn't fully healthy gave
vinson whatever but still regards as a fact like gave benson or not they did it with
we can be the good game bids and playing in miami they whipped their ass bro and they actually
played normal Celtics basketball now still like I have like my concerns I've seen too many just
like what the hell was that type turnovers from Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown as usual which is like
natural with how their play style is but if there's if there's gonna be a time to do it like it
it may be this time do you guys actually think that the Celtics will go ahead and upset
Miami Heat I'm never going to predict the first three-o comeback in history until it happens
Like, it's, there's a reason it never happens.
Mathematically, it's incredibly difficult.
Would I be incredibly shocked if it happened?
I guess not really.
It's a 2-8-3-0 lead.
Like, like you said, if it was ever going to happen to be this time.
But I'm not going to predict it.
I mean, it's hard to win four in a row when you're outmatched for the first three.
If the Celtics win game six, I'm probably, if they win game six, I'm probably going to pick them to win, to win game seven.
Like, then game six is obviously the key.
but but no right now i think miami wins in six i thought that miami would win in six before the
series so i think that they go back to the crib they um they get it done because even though that
that like boston they went and they had a really good game by their standards Miami also had a lot
of things not not even like not go their way but they also did a lot of uncharacteristic things
tonight that that kind of set them up for failure i think when you go back home and you kind
get a chance to catch your breath and they'll be on the flight back they're going to be fine
in game six i don't i don't think that there's anything to to worry about the one thing like
they have to get something out of kyle lowry if game vincent isn't going to be there like if
if i was if i was the heat right we're recording this thursday night direct deposits normally
hit on friday kyle lorry you don't get a game check for you don't get that right like
Kyle Lowry had played 28 minutes,
have five points as a point,
as the point guard,
the only point guard,
and have five points.
Two of eight from the field.
You sir,
you sir get no check,
right?
Bamatabio was on his way
to not getting a game check.
He turned up in the third quarter a little bit,
but like,
I think that like the heat,
they lost the first quarter
in convincing fashion.
Boston,
everything they threw up went in.
After that,
they really they held their own and every quarter was was decided by like one point one points two
points obviously that's going to be the difference in the game in playoff and playoff games but it's
like if you can survive or if you can just not have the subject shoot 60% from three in the first
quarter you're going to be okay they can play with these guys even though that they're down
um even though that they're down vincent like they're they're going to be okay yeah i don't know
being down vincent means a lot just because they're already down hero now the
out of Vincent. That's two starters. There's a lot of Hayward Highsmith minutes now.
They just don't have a lot of bodies. And I don't know the status of Vincent's injury.
It kind of came out last second earlier today that he was out. If he misses like the rest of
series, it's getting scary just because the depth is not there anymore. And the reason they went
on 3-0, which all credit to the heat for whooping the Celtics ass and the Celtics falling apart
those first three games, a lot of it was shooting variants. Caleb Martin became a sharpshooter
shooting 50% for three for the first few games. Same again gave Vincent. They have to be
incredibly hot to beat the Celtics team like this same thing all year the
the Celtics have to be incredibly hot to beat the heat because this is this is how they play
like this they play with a volume three point game they shot yeah they took 45 threes
tonight they made 18 they shot 40% from three if they take if they either take the same
amount and make let's say like 35% as a team or if they decide hey we're only going to take
30 tonight we've seen that whenever they don't take a lot of threes then then they don't
So it's like they have to shoot 40% to win.
See, but they don't have to shoot 40%.
They have to take a lot.
It's a volume game for them.
They have to make sure they're going through the process
and getting their looks and getting to them frequently.
If they shoot them all at an average clip,
they're probably going to win.
The math is there,
and they have to go two wings in the fourth quarter
to close it out.
The other hand, the heat,
okay, they're supposed to, right?
But it's about volume for them.
In theory.
But on the heat, it's not about that.
It's about inconsist.
You can't, you can't,
You can rely on volume.
You cannot rely on efficiency.
You cannot rely on Caleb Martin shooting 50% from three for three games straight.
You cannot rely on Gabe Davis becoming fucking, I'm Gabe Vincent, becoming fucking Steph Curry
for three days.
Like, that is extremely inconsistent, and you have to hope it happens again, or you
have to hope the Celtics fall apart, which is always possible.
Listen, like I said, I would not be surprised if the Celtics come back, but I'm going to
give the heat the benefit of the doubt.
We also need another Jimmy Butler-Superman game.
It's been a little while.
He's kind of cooled down a little bit.
Yeah, exactly.
I think he put up like 14 points or something like that today.
He's been really quiet.
We let him slide a lot.
Yeah, exactly.
And I think times like this, being the underdog,
this is where it heavily pays off because you escape a lot of slander
because nobody's going to put these top dog type of expectations on you.
But now I think...
I have.
Actually, no.
He had 29 tonight.
He had 29 tonight.
He didn't know.
That was no.
No,
no,
right,
that was two nights ago.
Look at the wrong game.
No, tonight.
Tonight was not a great game from Jimmy Butler.
It was.
I lied,
I lied.
That was two games ago.
It was,
it was honestly,
and let me see,
because basketball reference is actually messed up in this.
Yeah,
it hasn't,
hasn't updated yet.
Yeah,
but so Jimmy Butler,
tonight,
and this is the worst part about his game
is that he only took 10 shots.
That's,
that's the worst part about tonight.
Gabe Vincent goes out immediately.
Jimmy Butler,
has to, has to say to himself, and I, 100% that the heat would empower him to do so.
I'm taking 30 shots tonight, right?
Like, I'm not, I'm not letting this game come down to, to, to bam, getting shots.
Max Drews, right, Duncan Robinson.
The game shouldn't be on them to be driving the offense.
Everything has to be created and initiated by Jimmy because that's 100%.
Yeah.
That's how they've gotten here.
And if Gabe is down, you have to take more on it.
Ten shots is unacceptable.
It's also not that simple, though, because this is,
you know the Celtics weren't letting him shoot right like it goes both ways with one less
creator out there one more offensive liability in here at highsmith out there the Celtics
just trapped the shit out of him every time we touch the ball
Robert Williams was giving him fits doubling him on screens he blocked a three-point shot
of his at one point like the Celtics have just done a way better job defensively
eliminating the uh the go-to methods of the heat and it gets that that much easier when jimmy
butler has one less creator next to him yeah absolutely wait wait go mom
no yeah i was just about to double down on what isaac said when you i don't want to say the game
looks completely different without another person who can be a potential threat or be a threat
to the defense with the ball in their hands but that's what it is with the miami and jimmy and jimmy
and jimmy butler and so with jimmy bowler's nature too he's a willing passer and a willing
playmaker although he will get his shit off but when you're just consistent like throwing multiple
big ass bodies at him and collapsing
on him on a consistent basis. The floor just gets so
much smaller, and Jimmy's not going to, like,
forced an egregious shot. This is not
who he is and what's in his DNA.
He's kicking out to whatever that dude's
name was. Heiser, whatever
his name was. Haywood,
He has two last names.
Yeah, I know. I was, I was confused.
I don't even know what to call him, bro.
We've seen Jimmy
in this series and
in these playoffs
with tough defense.
at least get shots up, right?
Like, Caleb Martin took more shots than him.
Bam took more shots than him.
Duncan Robinson took the same amount of shots from him.
And listen, shout out to Duncan, though.
He was, he was hooping tonight.
But for Jimmy, at least early on too,
because the Celtics were running up and down the floor.
They were getting whatever they wanted in transition.
They were getting a lot of wide open threes that way.
And I think that Miami should have,
they probably should have tried to slow them down a little bit earlier.
But, like, Jimmy has to be able to get to his spots quicker.
And there were, there were a lot of actions that Miami ran where they were able to get him onto the baseline where he likes it.
They were able to get him matched up.
You saw him hunting Derek White a lot.
And he didn't do a good job tonight being as aggressive as he should be.
And I know that, like, I know that that you're saying that, you know, that Boston threw a lot at him.
Jimmy is also good enough to
To overcome a lot of that and at least put up some stuff
I just think that it's a it's bad to not shoot
And from your from your number one guy
To be out shot by by three other guys by two or three other guys
Like Heywood Highsmith took nine shots and Jimmy Butler took ten
Like what are we doing that's for a reason
There's one guy that two bodies on him one guy that has zero
That's how it goes like they tried
Their goal was to take what was given to
and beat him that way, and it didn't work out.
But I have faith in Spolstra coming back with some adjustments to that for the next game
and finding ways to not let them do that.
Which, I mean, the easiest way would be Vincent to be healthy,
so you don't have to fucking play Hayward Highsmith, but we'll see.
Yeah, exactly.
One thing I forgot to talk about, we can move on from the series,
because we'll see how it goes, right?
At this point, we're in a waiting game to see Artis Healthics going to come out and create history,
or are we going to get the heat facing the nuggets in the finals?
Too soon to say.
but one thing I want to talk about real quick
if we forgot to mention
LeBron James talking about potentially retiring
this summer.
Cat.
This man is one of the greatest
of all times when it comes to
just starting a whole bunch of drama
for nothing.
I love it.
He's a genius.
I don't think it's for nothing.
I see what you're saying.
Everybody keeps saying that
you're not leaving.
Come on.
You're not leaving.
Your son's just signed to USC.
You're not leaving.
Listen, everybody's quick to say
that, oh, it's a calculated media thing.
He wants to do leverage
against the Lakers, I don't really think it's any of that.
I think it was an old man who was frustrated.
He was upset that he got swept.
He's too good to be getting swept.
He had dragging his body through the past few months playing injured,
and he's very emotional, and they asked him on the moment,
what you think about this?
Every other old player ever, the last seven years of Tom Brady's career
were asking him about his potential retirement,
and he's saying, oh, you know, I've got to think about it.
It's just crazy to us that LeBron took until year 20
to finally say he's thinking about it.
all these old motherfuckers think about it for a few years before they retire i think it's
completely rational and completely honest of him but we all know he's not going to really
the only thing that really scared me about that whole entire thing cross promise that he had was like
when he mentioned how he always wanted to play with his son brawny james but he was like yeah
that may not be brony's goal or aspiration and i was like wow sounds like a good dad right
there. He's a pile driving that entire narrative. Yeah, I want to pay with my son.
He's any room. I go with my son. I want to go ahead and play with him. But he sounds like
hearing that put me into a, it made me sit back and actually like see LeBron's career
and like what, obviously what he's done. And if it's like worth continuously putting his body
online, it's like that just to like play with his son. I don't know.
Well, you need to keep your mic in front of your mouth.
no you're right yeah i was moving a lot
you're right he probably didn't say that for no reason right he probably heard from ronnie that
maybe he could tell he got the vibe that he's not as interested in that so yeah
maybe that's yeah he didn't pull that out of his ass right there has to be a reason he feels
that way yeah that was a sentimental he said and i was like damn
yeah i this way how nobody thinks is even close to truth that he might retire like
nobody buys it for whatever reason if he was actually now i would say if he was actually
serious about playing with brawny he should take he should take next year off just make sure that
nothing crazy happens he should he should just sit out just sit out be courtside at all the the
the USC games and just live life that's that if he will say that I feel like it's kind of difficult
to take a year off of NBA routines and try to just get back into it like that's probably
harder than you would think like to just get out of that mode and mentally get back into it
especially when you're old and you already have to like gear up for like oh there's another
fucking season like to have a year of that it's probably pretty hard to get back into that
i mean but if he's playing with his son he'll probably be high so it's like that that'll probably
give him that little adrenaline shot that he needs he'd be going through the motions yeah
yeah yeah i guess there's not much to say here because everybody's like oh cap but i don't think
it's terribly surprising and i think it's very natural and honest of him to talk about his
basketball mortality in that way because like yeah clearly he's at the point of his career where
he's starting to think about it right he needs to stop blind to us that's what he needs to do
I don't think he's lying
But he didn't say I'm retiring
He said I gotta think about things
He has a lot to think about every summer
Lying or not
This has to make Rob Polinkian
Other than boys and girls in Lakers
Runoffice start to think
Like we gotta like
Put all the tips in right now
Because it's quite literally
Literally now or never
Like do you really want to
Do you really want to like bank
Another year of Picks or ever
In hopes and aspirations for a 40 year
LeBron and like a
no i don't know 31 or 32 year old ad finally being healthy again like hell no it's now we're
never they're not they're not going to do it then they're not going to do it they had opportunities
last summer to do that and they understood like hey lebron's not going to be here in five years like
we're not going to we're not going to mortgage the future in order to do that i don't think it's that
they just traded 2027 and get rid of russ i think it's just the deals that are available like
it would not be sticking trade 2029 i think they're probably going to do that 29 yeah that's the next
to pick them available.
No, no, I understand that.
I'm just saying, I don't, I don't, I don't think that they have, like, another,
I feel like the deals that they made at the deadline,
while they were able to get them with great value,
I don't, I think, like, that was their all-in move,
and they should probably be preparing for the end of the LeBron era
and probably try and, like, set themselves up,
so they're not out here trying to rebuild, like, the Brooklyn Nets,
who are in a hole every, every 10 years.
They're probably trying to do something similar.
Yeah, but the thing is that they can also, if they combine Malik Beasley and who was it in the salary matching situation?
I think as Malik Beasley and Jared Vanderbilt, their cap holds together with the first round pick, they can get to like $27 million.
So they can make a sizable trade if something's out there.
We'll see what happens.
We'll see what happens.
Yeah, we'll see, man.
That's the topic for another day.
No topic is for right now.
Tick-Tock time
That's exactly what I've been waiting for
Yeah
Time to get the stuff everybody's here for
Get these short segments out there
Yeah
As always
We're going to start with a draft
We've done a few drafts now
Where we limit it to team-related drafts
So like we drafted Warriors
We drafted Lakers, Celtics
I think it's only three you done so far
Today we're going to do a draft
Of only players who played for the Knicks
Yes sir
So we're not drafting the Knicks version of them
We're drafting the prime version of any player who played there for even a second.
It could have been a 10-day contract and it counts.
Okay, bet.
What draft we did we did last time?
We did the 2010 draft.
I went, who went first?
Mo,
and picked Janus?
Yeah.
I do, I literally don't remember that.
Yeah, Mo got Janus and I think I got Yokic.
Yes, you went second.
Okay, so it's you first, me second, Mo third.
Fuck, so.
Okay.
There we go.
Let's draft NBA lineups with only players who played for the Knicks.
Everybody in their prime.
Listen, I don't, I don't care who's in their prime.
Give me, give me Carmelo Anthony.
Give me Carmelo.
I knew you're going to give me Carmelo.
Shout out.
Listen, I'm glad you did that.
Give me Patrick Ewing.
Got that.
Nice.
You got Patrick Ewing.
Give me Derek Rose.
Oh, that's a good thing.
I was hoping he fell to me.
Yeah, so I got Derek Rose.
and then along Derek Rose, give me Amari Stadermeyer.
Oh, okay.
It's a nasty pick and roll.
Yeah, I need it.
Hmm.
Okay, there's a lot of guards here, but I'm just to get this guy early just to make sure I have them.
I have my point guard situation finished.
Jason Kid.
Nice.
That's good.
I will take Tracy McGrady with my second pick.
He played for the Knicks?
He was a Nick.
Damn.
Yep.
I'll take, I'll take, I'll take Jason McGrady.
Get that man in an an aneurism.
And then
Let's see
Do I want to go
With my big next
Nah
Alright
We're going size
Give me Penny Hardaway
It's a good pick
Damn
You're in your bag right now
This guy isn't the best player here
But there's not a lot of wings available
So I'm gonna reach
Give me Ron our test
Okay
Okay I saw that
Okay
I saw that coming
That's nice
That's nice
So
I got D-Ros
Amari started
This is kind of thin, but give me Christops Porzingus.
Fuck, I was the pick him, you took two of my face.
I'm here to tear your life down, Isaac.
Fuck.
And then.
That's it?
That's it for me?
Well, no, he's back to back.
Oh, you're three.
Oh, I'm tripping.
I'm tripping.
Yeah.
My bad.
Yeah.
So I got, yeah, okay, cool.
So I got Christos Perzinius, D.
D. Rose, I'm Laurie Stoddemeier.
why am i blanking right now yeah okay zero's monitor i'm i i need a three and then i also
need a fucking two who are some of the give me just for the vibes give me jr smith i need to respect
okay that's a crazy pick it's a crazy pick it's a crazy pick it's any bernard king is my two
yeah i know wait who'd you take he said i said me okay okay okay okay
Day R. Smith.
All right, got you.
It feels so nasty saying that.
All right.
We're going to fill out,
we're going to fill out
the four and the five right now.
At my four,
give me Rashid Wallace
and at my five,
give me DeKimbe Matumbo.
Oh, okay.
No,
Matumbo played for the Knicks.
Everybody played for the Knicks.
Oh, my God, man.
Listen,
this is a weird pick,
but I'm going fit.
I need spacing in this line up somewhere.
For my four,
give me Danilo Gallaudari.
Okay.
He got buckets.
I like that.
Sometimes.
I like that.
I like that.
Okay.
Sometimes.
Well, he's healthy.
All right, cool.
So to round this off, I need a three.
I don't know why I'm scratching so much.
What the fuck?
I need to pick RJ Barrett.
Who?
RJ Barrett.
I almost threw up.
Jimmer for that is still on the board.
Yeah.
Jimmer for this.
is still on the board.
Can I interest you in Julia Randall?
No.
Ew.
God, that's gross.
Would you like Andrea Bargiani?
I'd rather have Pablo Brigioni.
Hey, that's his pick.
Write it down.
Write it down.
That's his pick.
Listen, no, it's not.
Damn, yo, I'm blanking right now.
What the fuck?
Discount double-trane?
And also, no.
The hell, man.
And also my computer.
Josh Hart. Josh Hart.
Josh Hart.
Listen, Chris Duhon is right there.
No, screw it, whatever.
Give me.
Jerry Jeff.
He never played for the next.
He doesn't ever thought.
He just tries to.
Like, that's what I said.
Love me some names.
Love me some random names.
Jerry Jeffries.
Who the hell is that?
I thought he said Jared Jack for a second, too.
Listen.
Screwing.
Give me, give me a manual cookie.
Whatever.
My laptop is cooked.
Yeah.
I know.
My laptop is cooked.
You suck.
You suck.
My laptop is cooked.
I have no reason.
Is that the last big?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I started off so hot too.
That kills me, bro.
That's terrible.
Okay.
Please tell us your team.
Let's do our team.
Let's do our team.
Because I need to hear it.
I need to see what you got.
I got Derek Rose, J.R.
Smith, Emmanuel Kickley.
Amari Stademeyer and Chris.
House for Zingis.
This is the worst fucking team ever.
I started up real hot.
36 wins.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, this is not my bag.
Jason Kidd, Bernard King, Meta World Peace, Danila Gallinari, Patrick Ewing.
All right.
Your team's going to struggle to get buckets.
Old-ass team.
All right.
I have Penny Hardaway, Tracy McGrady, Carmelo, Anthony, Rashid Wallace, and Dekimbe
Matumbo.
You did this for all of the, you did this for all the NYC crown eaters.
Donovan was in his bag.
That T-Mack pick is crazy.
Yeah.
Listen, Bernard King's better than T-Mack, but the comments aren't going to know about Bernard King,
so, is not going to go well.
Listen, I don't know.
Prime Timak?
The Hez-E was different, bro.
The Hes-E-Mack was different, bro.
Bernard King would think that was mad.
That is wizardry.
That's what I'm saying.
Prime T-Mack would jump over Bernard King.
But, he didn't play in the 50s.
Prime Team Mac
was still
Postarizing
Yeah, that man would
That man
That man would have thought
That was
Voodoo being happening
in bro
Nope
He's not Bob Coosie
What are you talking about?
Okay, next thing we're going to do
Is we're going to do a tier list
As always
It's always our number two
TikTok these days
Today we're going to do a tier list
of NBA signature moves
That'd be from individual players
Their go-to moves
I like that
So let's put these NBA
Signature moves
into a tear lift.
I'm going to include that.
I know you're
I had to do it.
First off,
the looking at the hand,
la fuck you three.
This is about a,
this is like a B.
It's falling off very quickly.
And it's just the stupidest move.
This is the most,
this is the most old man move
I've ever seen.
It's like,
it's a much more flair than substance.
We're going to one C
I want to give us a B though
Because when it works
The name is funny though
Yeah exactly
Okay we'll give it a B just for the name
Yeah
The name is fire
The James Harden step back three
I mean you gotta give it
You gotta give it S
A you gotta give it an S tier
This man made a career off of it
It can't be an S tier
Because it doesn't work in the playoffs
So he can't deny it an A
That's true
In the playoffs
Regular season
Unstoppable
Playoffs
Impossible
Yeah
But simply
But remember that one time
He damn near
He literally broke
Basically broke
Patrick Beverly's
Kneecaps
When he crossed him back
When he was in LA
And also
Some dude
I think his name was
Xavier Johnson
He
We've never heard of him
After he got crossed over
Back when James Hart
Was in his rocket days
That was
About Wesley Johnson
Yeah
He's talking about Wesley Johnson
johnson there we go wesley that's a disgusting best name by the way it deserves a for the highlights
a yeah clear there we go all and iverson crossover that's an s t that's an s t's an s easy s here
he changed the crossover was iconic yep yep the influence is crazy that's easy yeah no
that's what that the moment he pulled it out for the first time is the moment bob coozy knew he
didn't like the martin NBA uh yeah easy
We need to get Bob Coogan out of a podcast.
Oh, my God, bro.
You put it in front of a screen, his brain's going to fry.
Oh, my God.
Next one.
The Joelle Embed second round playoff loss.
That's disgusting.
That's disgusting.
That's disgusting.
Listen, it has to be S-tier.
It is the only unstoppable move in the history of the NBA.
I mean, you're not wrong.
It's never not wrong.
worked so like literally he's undefeated when it comes to that bro one of the greatest of all
time we've never seen none like it a generational talent something always goes wrong he finds
a way no matter right and because of that he is the man and that's an s it is literally
the only certainty in sports history it has never not happened yeah bro lastly the dirk one
leg fade away oh that's an ass yes tier oh it's a tier yes tier
Because only he can do it.
It's a whole new slag brought to the game.
It's a personal room.
It's a, it's not replicable.
Exactly.
There you go.
It's crazy because nobody even tries.
Like who else even attempts that?
KD tried it.
I mean, I see people.
KD tried it a couple times, but it's not like.
Ron does it a little bit actually, low key.
But it's not like consistently in their bag.
But you're right.
It's, it's no one, no one keeps it in their bag routinely because it's just not their
bag.
They just do it for the game.
Yeah, the volume is crazy.
Yeah.
Dude for the highlights.
Okay.
So that's the tier list.
Next thing we're going to do,
we're going to do something we've done a couple times now.
We're going to do a draft but of player's skills to build the perfect player.
And last time we did point cards, today we're going to build the perfect centers.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, and we did only current players last time.
This time we're going to do all time.
Oh, well, yeah.
That's fair.
We have to do all time.
Yeah, it would be more interesting.
So the skills are going to be buying.
Body, defense, shooting, passing, and instead of finishing, let's do post moves.
Instead of finishing, let's do post moves.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, so body, defense, shooting, passing, post moves.
And we're going to draft those instead of positions to make the perfect player.
So it's basically another draft.
Okay, okay.
Who went first last time?
I don't think I remember my first.
I think I did.
I did.
I got stuff shooting.
I went third.
I remember that.
I had back to back.
Okay, so it's Mo, me, Donovan.
That's the order for this.
Yeah.
So, let's draft the perfect NBA centers.
Let's draft the perfect NBA centers.
Hit this with it, Mo.
Body?
I'd be a fool not to pick, Shaq.
Are you kidding me?
Go on body first pick.
Okay.
Give me body first pick.
First pick.
I'm going to take the biggest advantage here.
Give me Yokage passing.
Okay.
There's no close.
second that is true that's that's fine that's fine give me hakeem elajuan's post moves
I wanted his defense nice um and then give me I need a nice passer you know what
2K deep cut give me Arvita subonis pass damn what I can't destroy your mic you
destroyed the audio I can't have shit give me Carl Anthony Town shooting kill me
now and what the hell in there what can I have this world's against me
all right damn it back go ahead
draft for you like yeah this is this is go ahead um you said you got Carinthian
town shooting mm-hmm okay
Go ahead and give me
Is Chris Osprezingis considered a center now?
Yeah, you can have him.
Yeah, give me Chris Osperzingis shooting.
Okay.
Say that he gave him some more confidence.
Yeah, he doesn't want that.
I did not.
I had to double check.
I do want that, but I have to double check.
I'm just looking, I'm looking for scarcity right now.
Okay.
Damn.
Give me Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's post moves.
I can't believe I let that fall to you.
Yep.
I'm skyhooking.
Step back threes.
The best passer.
All right.
That's fine.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Give me Bill Russell's defense.
And...
Ooh.
This...
This one's tough.
This one's tough.
Okay.
I'll go here.
Give me David Robinson's body.
Oh, I wanted him.
Damn.
That's nice.
So fast.
That's a good pick.
I love that.
I love that.
Okay.
Oh, I just realized Moe, you didn't go twice.
Pick a little player now and I'll just edit it back into the right spot.
Oh, shit.
Okay, cool.
Go ahead and give me Joel and B's post moves.
Okay.
Got the power game.
All right.
All right.
So now, I have shooting, passing, and post moves.
You picked Bill Russell.
Hakeems off the board.
That sucks.
I need passing.
You know what?
Give me Dwight Howard defense.
I'm that three-town defense player of the year.
That's a smart move.
Cough of my ass off.
You're turning again, Bo.
All right, cool.
So I got a shack body,
Christop's shooting,
Joel and B. Post moves.
So I need someone's passing.
Dyerly.
Go ahead.
You know what?
I'm going to go ahead and give me
he's about to sell ladies and gentlemen
no no no I'm not going to sell
I'm not going to sell this
I'm just imagining to edit in my fucking head
go ahead
damn I might sell this six times pick a player
yeah I know my mind is freezing
this is all time and y'all select players that I fucking wanted
what was the other uh what was the other two attributes right body defense shooting passing post moves
oh cool that's perfect uh go ahead and give me give me anthony davis defense okay you go back
and then after that i have passing left and for passing i'm going to go ahead and accept
I feel like Paul Gasalt threw some nasty passes in his heyday.
So give you Pablo Salt bashing.
Okay, okay.
I feel like you could have got the other, the other brother.
But it's all good.
It's all good.
I'm going to take the steel of the draft, Wilk Chamberlain's body.
That is true.
I'm playing Woodchamling in a basket.
No, no.
We got real NB players around us.
So how real of a steel is that?
Exactly.
Very.
all right i need some shooting so let's go to splash mountain all right i need shooting so let's go to
splash mountain himself give me brookelopez the shooting okay that's a good pick for the last pick
of the draft yeah that is unorthodox i like that what a way to cap it off no midrange bag at all
but you can shoot some piece that's all we need listen i have hakeem's post moves and brookane
his shooting. We're good.
Yeah, we're guys.
Yeah, you don't stop.
I said, to name it off, I have
Walt Chamberlain's body,
Dwight Howard's defense,
Carl Anthony Towns is shooting,
Nicole Yokch is passing,
and Karima Abdul-Jabar's
post moves.
Good grief.
Who did you just make?
I think I might have the best
in four categories.
You might.
I have,
uh,
I have Joellen Beats' post moves,
Shaq's body,
Christop's shooting,
Uh, and then I have, what the hell am I thinking about?
Yeah, I just got Palisal's passing.
Yeah, I just got Palisal's passing.
And then, uh, someone's defense who I'm just, I'm blanking right now.
Who's it?
You got AD's defense.
Yeah, AD's defense.
There we go.
All right.
I got David Robinson's body, Bill Russell's defense, uh, Brooke Lopez is shooting,
Arvita Sabonis is passing, and Hakeem Elijah wants post moves.
Oh, nice.
That's nasty.
That's nasty.
You should have, Mo, you should have picked the other Sabonis is passing.
I don't know.
Yeah, you're, I felt like I could have, but I don't know.
I just didn't feel right about it.
I didn't feel right about it.
I'd rather have probably solved.
The Vinci's memories are in my head.
Sabonis went out soft too, so.
It does resonate.
All right.
Next video, we're going to do which NBA moment was more embarrassing.
Let's get into it.
Let's get into it.
This should be a fun one, okay?
He gets some jokes off.
So, which NBA moment was more embarrassing?
LeBron's misdunk the other night or Brandon Knight getting dunked on?
Oh, Brandon Knight getting dunked on 110%.
Brandon Knight.
Listen, LeBron, that was an embarrassing moment.
Brandon Knight's moment, that was life-altering, okay?
There's not just one moment.
He can't go anywhere anymore without people saying, you got dunked on.
so maybe being on the
this lebron looked old as hell and it was hilarious
very embarrassing for it all time great but
being on the other end of the most disrespectful dunk of all time
potentially that's all you're going to be known for forever
there's no safe zone for you bro every time you walk into any
a you can't they're going to point to you like these and they're going to point
at their phone like these
you're done you cannot be around sixth graders ever
exactly yeah for sure brandy night
What a tragedy career
Poor guy
I don't know why I matched us too
It was a terrible matchup
I typed that wrong
I like it
Well they rock though
Steph Curry
Slipping on a dunk attempt
Or Camelo Anthony's two foot air ball shot
I think Steph Curry
It's Steph Curry's
I don't know man
Listen
Camel Omanthie was so close
He could touch the rim
He just
People miss shots all the time
step legoofy slipping and he's wide open and did the ho it's like it's like you put a banana peel right there
it was ridiculous exactly exactly and i remember that he was against the lakers too and he when he really
went to go dunk we rarely see step dunk we really see we rarely see step dunk and so like when that's
why it's up for it it's like oh man you should just laid it up and you better make it's not
man yeah i don't think he's tried since that one time he's like nope not again i try to give you
all fucking won. It didn't work out.
Yeah, no, no. His reputation is too strong for it to be tainted like that.
So lay that hell out. He went home with a light bruise. How annoying.
Yeah, broken tailbone.
The Houston Rockets missing 27 straight threes or James Hardin being blocked by Mono Genoble in Game 6?
27 straight threes. Easy. Easy. And it's not even that. It's what happens.
afterwards and the fact that the Rockets sent a letter into the league crying about the
miss calls to try to make up for the miss shots you guys are nerds and y'all suck that is embarrassing
this was so embarrassing because it's almost a mathematic impossibility and they managed to do
it you know how sad that is I don't think we will they made history that night we'll never see
that top of we'll never see that level of play ever again bro that was generational basketball
But, bro, money was so old when James Harding got blocked by him.
Facts.
Incredibly.
He was a corpse.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's like Prime James Harden doing the crazy number, and he gets stopped by that?
I don't know.
But 27 is an outrageous numbers.
I have to go with that.
27 is outrageous.
You couldn't do that even if you tried.
How?
That's hilarious.
Next one.
J.R. Smith.
forget. I don't even call this.
J.R. Smith's infamous
finals blunder or Javelle McGee
running the wrong way after a rebound?
It got it. It has to call Javelle McGee.
Right? If you can at least, at least for J.R., you're like, listen,
the stress got to him, right? It was a big moment.
Jabelle's running the other way in November.
Like, bro, focus.
Focus, please.
What's the funny part is?
It's Javel because he's running so hard.
He's putting his all into it.
He's getting back on defense.
He thinks he's going to be applauded by the coach.
Absolutely.
He's going to get more PT doing this, bro.
But no.
The quiet opposite is going to happen.
You only see that in first grade YMCA games.
Like, come on now.
Yeah.
He was, no, he did.
No, he did.
He said, he go.
Yeah, Javels is 10 times worse.
Even though that happened to me.
final still way worse bro god
what a guy
next one
paul george hitting the side of the backboard
or dami luther's game winning shot in his mouth
paul jrish can't win holy shit
me personally
him hitting the side of the backboard
in a completely empty arena
alongside that the announcer saying
way off is so bad
holy cow bro that should must have been so
loud. No acoustics, just
boom. And it's crazy, because Paul George
had to hear the announcers say way off, too.
He had to hear that.
Only people were the crowd
were all their baby mommas. They're just laughing
at them.
Exactly, bro. No way, no way there's worse.
All the virtual fans were pointing.
That was supposed to be the best Clippers team
in franchise history and the defining
moment is that.
sad
yeah last one
Brandon Knight
missing a wide open
game winning layup
or Nick Young
turning around and missing the three
this is tough
poor Brandon Knight
I don't know
it has to be Nick Young
listen
that clip and that meme
of Nick Young
thinking he made it
we've talked about it
before
that's a 10 out of 10 meme
right
that's an all-time meme
it
surpasses just sports
right
you can put that meme
into any
exactly
Nick Young
embarrassed himself
with that
yeah this meme
Nick Young
in that moment
will live
beyond our entire
but beyond our years
period bro
it'll it'll live
long enough
for our kids
kids to see this
so Nick Young
I'll laugh at that though
Brandon Knight
just looks like he's ass
it's not even funny
I know.
You just feel bad because it's like, man, another one, really?
God.
Yeah, like, yeah, you're always like,
there's a Brandon Knight tax that everything is hilarious
when Brandon Knight is on the opposite end of the highlight.
Yeah, I feel like, I feel like you can find a 10-minute low-light reel
that'll leave you in tears of Brandon Knight.
Like, if that was Luckba, Mute, it'd only be kind of funny,
but the fact that it's Brandon Knight again is hilarious.
What a deep cut name.
I haven't heard his name for a friend.
Canbao Muta is hilarious, bro.
I thought that was a random guy I could think of.
That's crazy.
That's hilarious.
Before we get out of here, we have one more video.
Mo, I think you have some baby pictures to show us.
Yes.
So, for the viewers out here, I'm going to send these people some baby pictures.
And we're playing a little game called Guest the NBA player by their baby pictures.
So I'm going to load the first one up.
Donovan, I know your Wi-Fi is.
hook, so I'm just going to wait a second and get this hook right.
I'm going to say it a couple of times.
Guest the NBA player.
Oh, no, I got this. I got this.
Oh, wow.
Holy shit.
Look at us.
We're coming up in the world.
Look at us.
All right.
Guest the NBA player, buy their baby pictures.
Okay.
First up, who is this child?
He's in hell hard.
Bro, who the fuck is this kid?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Listen, this is a big baby right here.
Yeah.
This is a big baby.
You know, Clay Davis?
Look at the smile.
Look at the eyes.
Look at the nose.
Look at the hair.
Yeah, see the resemblance?
That's Big Baby Davis.
No.
He's in the NBA today.
Oh, dang.
Is this Joellen Bede?
No, that is a great guest, though.
That is not Joellen B.
All right.
Who are the fat guys?
Oh, this is an American baby, isn't it?
Yes.
That is a good guess.
It's an American baby.
Who is this?
Who is this kid?
I don't know this child.
L.
Okay, I'm just guess.
Is this Julius Randall?
No.
It is not.
That's a good guess.
That is a good guess.
Y'all see it, right?
Yeah, actually, you're right.
Look at the eyes and the formation.
Yeah.
Side of that.
Side profile.
Yeah.
For sure, there's great guess.
I give up.
Who is this kid?
Who is it?
Yeah, I give up.
Who is this kid?
This is James Hardin.
Oh.
Yeah.
You shouldn't put a beard on that baby.
I don't know who this is.
Put a whisker on that.
That was generic baby.
No defining features in that baby.
All right.
Who is this baby?
Which one?
Next time he got some chains on.
This is more of a elementary school picture than a baby picture.
Is that Deer and Fox?
No.
Wow, you're so wrong.
This picture is a way to old to be Deer and Fox.
Yeah, I know.
Dearn Fox is 12 in like 2011.
I know.
Your timeline is wildly off.
Yeah.
Yeah, Deer Fox is our age.
Hey, man.
Now, Deon Fox is a little bit older than us.
Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah, he's one year old in us.
He's 2017, though.
I ain't going to lie.
He looks like a, he looks like a bastard with this picture right here.
You got the hat to turn back.
You got to cut that.
You got to cut that.
What are we doing?
this person has a gap to
this kid looks like a hall of fame swiddler
okay wait
okay wait listen
this person is clearly wearing
rock-aware stuff
right this is 2003
2004 era
okay so they have to be
what about eight or nine
which means they were born in like
1994
so they're
hmm
huh
who is this baby
yeah he's playing in the lead today
yeah he's
in the NBA today. All these players are mostly
these players in NBA today. This
Jimmy Butler. No.
Okay. Jimmy Blur did not grow
up in a household for real. This is not
J.B. Oh, yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah, that's crazy. You don't think that there's
any pictures of Jimmy Butler prior
to it to him. That is true.
But Jimmy Butler looks happy
and his childhood was supposedly
sad. So I don't know. Do you think every day
is bad?
All right, move we're going.
People in poverty can have good days too,
you know?
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Who is this kid?
This is hard that I thought.
Yeah, this is hell hard.
Who is this?
Is this Bradley Beal?
Yes, Bradley Beal.
Yes.
This is literally Bradley Beal.
He's a swindler, bro.
He looks like he just out here,
schemers because day one.
Ain't no way he didn't.
Ain't know way he has no kids
back in the lunch line, bro.
What?
I can tell for the chin.
Exactly.
It's a chin.
It's a chin.
All right, who was this baby with the basketball on his hand?
Okay, I got a bowling shirt.
That's a round baby, man.
Let's see.
This looks like Julius, too.
Oh, my God.
Every play, you know.
Oh, my God.
I see a familiar face in this baby.
It's coming to me slowly.
No, man.
Is this Anthony Edwards?
No.
He's wearing tummy.
That's not a terrible guest, though.
he's wearing Tommy
that is a good yes
what does that tell me
I don't know
look at the nose
in the ears
in the eyes
I thought this is pretty obvious
it's just telling me
that this kid is black
like that's
I can't get anything else
with a laughing nose
oh my god
oh my god
is this Evan Mobley
no
this is not Evan Moble
it's weird
I feel like this should be
like this kid is mad
this child is dark skin though
so like
Like, that's context clues.
Evan Lovie is not for real.
Okay, you're right.
Is this kid an All-Star?
Yeah, this kid is an All-Star.
Is this LeBron?
What?
Oh, my, that is the worst guess I've heard in my life.
I don't know what LeBron looked like.
He would manhandle babies.
What are you talking about right now?
Have you ever seen Baby LeBron before?
His baby is big, too.
What do you mean?
Yeah, but baby LeBron looked like he used to handle shit for real.
I don't know.
In order to go by Baby LeBron
recess his playground you need to check in with him like it's wrong with big homie no it's not
I can't breathe I don't know I don't know who this fat baby I don't know what to do
I don't know who this is oh my god I'm crying real tears I don't know who this is I don't know who this is I don't
my god my eyes i can't we're just roasted babies at this point i'm not even guessing
i don't care who this is this jalen brown yes it's jalen brown oh wow
god you bitch me all so much bro fuck you let's go
no cry bro my fucking his stomach hurts oh my god i'm gonna throw up
Oh my goodness.
Oh, my God, I can't fucking breathe.
Bro, I'm crying so hard.
Oh, my God, okay.
Oh, my God.
This tissue's all wet for my tears.
He said the bra used to man-handle baby.
Oh, bro.
Smur was not allowed at daycare.
All right.
is this baby his face is very distinct
that's chris middleton that's
christ middleton oh my god
what do you try to see he's not
in the NBA right now
oh that's not Chris Middleton is this
Reggie Miller? No
they got a long head man
I don't know who
is this Rhondo? No
this is not Rondo
who's this light skin child
I don't know
well you said they're not in the NBA
yeah they're not in the NBA
Is this Ray Allen?
No.
Terrible guess.
No, it's not.
The forehead is huge.
Oh, shit.
Oh, good, man.
Who is this?
Their face looks recognizable.
I feel like whenever you tell me, I'm going to know.
It's not Reggie Miller?
What the heck?
Is this Mark Jackson?
No.
No, no, no.
His picture has to be in black and white.
Yeah.
Michael Red?
You said Michael Red, no.
no Michael Red Baby Pitch
I would be upset
Chris Bosch
I don't know
Chris
No you can tell Chris with his neck
This is not
Chris Fox
That's crazy
This is the craziest
I've ever had
I don't know
I don't know
All right
People that are watching to the end
This is hilarious
This is well worth
The price of admission
Okay listen listen
Just give me an era
Of player
2000s
Okay
2000s
Super early
2010s
and then he was out
Is this Vince Carter?
No
hell no
I want to say
Ray Allen again
No
this player was none
about buckets
bro
Oh he was all about buckets
And that's it
Is this Jamal Crawford
No
That's not a terrible
Yes
not into no not
Rip Hamers
buckets
yeah
I give up
who is this kid
who is it
Monte Ellis
oh yeah
that makes sense
that makes sense
yeah
okay
all right
who is this kid
black and white
Frankenstein
who is this
Frankenstein
who is this
you give us a black
and white photo
yeah
who is this kid
yeah
I think it's kind of obvious
because this
this kid looks kind of crazy
is Zach Randolph
No
Oh my goodness
You're gonna hate yourself for it
When you don't know who this is
Does there Bobby Portis
No not Bobby Portis
It's not a terrible guess
Because he's crazy as fuck too
Is he a current player
No he's not a current player
This is black and white
But this is a crisp
Black and white photo though
This is a stylistic choice
I see the confusing
Look at the eyes
It's all in the eyes
Oh he is
That boy has dripped out
Oh my god
I'm going to drip down the cost
Listen I'm trying to stare
Into the like eyes of this child
I have no idea who this is
Stair into the eyes
He's dark skin
Not
Not in the NBA
Okay can you give us the era
Yeah
Early 2000s
This guy
Towards Ben Wallace
Super late
Two, it's towards the super late 2010s.
No, no, Ben Wallace.
Super late 2000s and their baby picture is black.
My bad, my bad, my bad, early, my bad, early.
Who's crazy?
Crazy players.
Is this Ron Artes?
No, you're in the same, you're on the right track, though.
Stephen Jackson?
No.
Stephen Jackson.
No.
Al Harrington.
Nope.
Germain O'Neal.
No.
is he a wing
uh no he was not a wing
that should give it away
who is this kid
dude doesn't
oh is this kevinternet
yes look at him you look at a badass kid
what he looks like he's gonna torment you at the
fucking lunchroom what are you talking about
oh kidding me this is
no that kid is scary
yeah that kid's scary
I got it I got it I got it
you got one more for us
yeah I got one more
Oh Lord
Yeah, I got it
It's not gonna be bad
This is the craziest second I've ever had
Who's that first baby again?
That first baby
Oh, that's James Hardin
I already forgot
All right
Fucking babies, man
This is hilarious
Jaylon Brown was crazy
Who is this baby?
Did somebody look like their baby picture?
Oh, that's Joella B
There you, fuck, okay, there we go
That one was so easily
Bet
Look at that fucking smile
Here's the cheekbones
Okay, let me give you one more
Let me give you one more
That was easy
Send this over quickly
Oh this is hilarious
Well, hold out
Okay, there we go
Oh, that's calling you a West
That does look like him
This player is out of the NBA
I see
This looks like this is Kedjik Birkins
No
This is a good cast but no
You can tell this is an old player though
Super He's not super
But era
Early 2000s
This guy
Hmm
This is
Early to late 2000s
No
Early to late
I don't know these children
You can't tell by the Facebook features
Look at that
The sharkless of the head
I think that kind of gives it away
In the nose
Sharpness of the head
Yeah
Got a sharp head
Bro
In the 2000s
Yeah
Is this Sam Cassell
No
No
No
Come on now
Now you wouldn't
You would know
Sam
Okay
Chauncy Billups
No
No no
No no
No no
No no
No I mean
The
The kids
Kind of
Not like
Fully
Big Bone
But like
He didn't there
That's a large child
You're right
This
This kid is filling up the onesie
I was saying
Yeah this
This dude did grow up tall
I'm over this
He was jumping out the gym
Yeah I don't know
He played for your team
At one point Donovan
Jumping up
Is this Amari Stonemar
Yes
Amari Stonar
I see it
I see it
I see exactly
What we need to do next time
We need to play
Like 20 questions
or 10 questions
but with the baby pictures
Oh, that's a good one
That's fire
Okay
Yeah man
That was the funniest segment we've ever had
The episode's over
See ya
See y'all next time