The Deep 3 Podcast - The NBA Has A New King | Ep. 38

Episode Date: May 26, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So last week, we opened the pot off by me declaring that Nicola Yokic is the best player in the world. And since then, they went on to sweep the Los Angeles Lakers with an utterly dominant performance from him and Jamal Murray. And I think we have to open the show talking about this team. And they're just incredible run to the finals. Yeah, apparently. Listen, apparently we're the only ones talking about the Nuggets. Apparently nobody's talking about the Nets in NBA media. Yeah, you asked Michael Malone, and he's never once seen his team on sports center.
Starting point is 00:00:30 yeah that is hilarious right embarrassing nasty work but hey people got to say whatever to motivate themselves but i for one of the like to say two months ago or so i declared nicolyokic is probably the best player in the NBA and i do indeed want my cookie venmo okay you're right i agree you're really and listen i've been called a yokech glazer many times in the comment section of the pod all the shorts so for now it feels good if they lose the finals then now we'll feel fucking horrible, but for now, we're feeling good as a very pro-yokish podcast. This is your time to shine, Isaac. Yeah, Donovan was joking about it, talking about how there's been a lot of narratives lately
Starting point is 00:01:07 that nobody talks about the Nuggets, which to some extent is true. They're overlooked. So let's do our part, and let's do our, giving their respects, and let's focus on them to begin the show. Let's talk about it. Let's do it. What was your biggest takeaway from the sweep? Because a lot of the talk about the Lakers and how LeBron looked old and 80 was ghost mode in the game four, we'll get to them.
Starting point is 00:01:28 How are you feeling about the Nuggets in the positive way and how in terms of them dominating? The championship is theirs to lose. Like, it's very, very simple. I don't, I think at this point, like, even if Miami, like, gets passed and could, Miami, they played tonight, they ended up losing tonight. We're going to talk about them later.
Starting point is 00:01:45 But I think if even Miami or Boston gets out of this series, right now I think I might take Denver in five, just because they look, yeah, they look extremely complete on both ends. Jamal is who've been out and the thing that we've been saying for two years like if you get Yokic any kind of help then like the Nuggets can do something they're doing something like Jamal Jamal's dropping 30 nearly every other half in in the playoffs it's ridiculous Aaron Gordon's defense is fantastic Michael Bode Jr's knocking down threes Bruce Brown seems to be doing a little bit
Starting point is 00:02:20 of everything like he him and also KCP KCP and I've seen a lot I've seen a lot of Lakers fans upset because they've seen like a version of kCP in denver that they kind of wanted in la and it's just like that's just possible now because you have a seven foot you know walking 30 30 point triple double the floor is just so open all the time like i'm glad you said this everybody gets the best version themselves with yokic yokech knows exactly how to feed people the type of shots that they like every mpj lexie shots in the corner coming off of the screen yokish knows how to give them to them kCP likes to attack close outs these little mid-range pull-ups Yokish knows how to get it to him.
Starting point is 00:02:59 He's perfect with that. Yeah. It is the Nuggets champion. Oh, wow. It is the Nuggets championship to lose. And they have it. They, like, this is one of the best playoff friends that we've ever seen. And I will, I'll say that.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I think that Michael Malone is a little bit, like, fooling himself. He has to do the thing that, like, that a lot of coaches do is like, oh, it's against the world. Nobody believes in us, right? Like, you kind of always have to keep that. The one thing that he will be right on is that I don't think a lot of people are talking about Yokic's postseason in the context of like a historical, you know, context. And I think that is where we can 100% like spend a lot of time today or even just moving forward. Because what he's doing is crazy. A 30 point triple double for the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Nuts. That's crazy. What the efficiency that he's been going with in terms of just like getting the job done regards of the fact. Like I would say during. this playoff run he's had like a lot of like nasty like efficiency games like he's some nights he shoots like eight for 20 or whatever which is just incredibly odd especially for someone like yokech who in the regular season went on an insanely he went on an insane tear of shooting like i don't know a large chunk of the season without shooting under 50% from the field it's weird
Starting point is 00:04:21 but yeah been getting the job done every night and you mentioned for two seconds donovan just how elite Jamal Murray has been he's been averaging 28 points damn near 40% shooting from the field and six assists he has been on a dis he's been
Starting point is 00:04:37 he's been everything you want him to be and it's super inspiring to see him just do his thing because a couple rumors came out over the last few days when they whipped the Lakers ass that he thought that he was
Starting point is 00:04:51 damaged goods for a second Michael Mohn had a potential option to go ahead and trade Jamal Murray for I'm assuming a guard like Kyrie Irving a couple years ago back when he had his fiasco or whatever
Starting point is 00:05:04 and Mike Mullen was like no I'd rather go ahead and keep this doing he did he did what was right and seeing Jamal Murray like fulfill live up to his potential but still yet it's really awkward to say his potential still might not be good enough to be
Starting point is 00:05:20 an all-star in the Western Conference maybe it will be after this post-season run because of all the respect and credibility that he will have now. But everything is clicking on all angles and cylinders. And I feel like, bro, Aaron Gordon, he actually did his thing to game four against the Lakers. You know, and when he's in threes like that, it's like, well, now you're done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I'm glad you mentioned Jamal Murray scoring 28 points per game now. And then you said he's not good enough to be an all-star, but that's the thing. He wasn't good enough to be an all-star in the regular season. He wasn't. Like, it's not like he was like Rob didn't get the respect he needed. He averaged 22 points for game. He was a very good player, but there was 12 other players more deserving. So the point I'm saying that is he's proven to be now one of the best playoff risers we've seen.
Starting point is 00:06:06 We're talking about playoff Jimmy being a real thing. We talked about playoff Rondo a few years ago when he was killing it for the Lakers. Like, there's been a few players that have gotten that playoff moniker. Jamal Murray is the one who deserves that now. I think I saw a TikTok that was listing the top five players in terms of points for a game jumps from the regular season to playoffs. And he was in that top five. Like, it's very rare to jump from a 22.3 game score to 28, 29. That's literally the same thing Jimmy Butler does.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So, yeah, I mean, listen, his shot and, like, also just the way that the Nuggets play and the way that, like, Yokch wants to play, Yokic wants to be, right, at the top of the key, he wants to be finding everybody else. And in the playoffs, when you have to just go and get buckets and you look at, like, the Nuggets roster, like, Aaron Gordon is not a bucket getter, right? Yeah, for sure. Right, MPJ, he could do some stuff, but he's not, he doesn't have, like, the bag that, that Jamal Murray would, listen, you ask him, he's the bucket getter. He is Tracy McGrady incarnate. Again, that's, that's him. But if you are watching, if you watch him on the outside, like, he's just, he's not, he's not like that. Obviously, like, Casey P, he's not necessarily like that. So I also think that the nuggets and the roster construction puts Jamal in a, in like a perfect situation arise, because creating, creating stuff off the dribble on the perimeter, that's his job, right? Yokic and we've seen Yokic a bunch of times these playoffs where he's like I'm not going to mess around outside like I'm just going to bully ball and I'll get my points down low and now Jamal is perfectly set up to do all that stuff outside so like it makes sense why he why he rises because they lean on him a little bit more yeah and like teams give so much attention to Yokic they do it's a heavy dribble handoff team and whenever you do a dribble handoff from Nicole Yokic one he's massive sets amazing screens two these teams are so scared of him getting any separation and
Starting point is 00:07:52 creating offense for him and others that they just like stare at him it's almost like a step gravity thing where when he's running off screens he draws two defenders eyes and other people get open because of it it's real similar with these handoffs for yokech so joan murray's often just like walking into wide-up and pull-up shots and he's incredible at those so combine that they're just the perfect fit and so i want to segue that into asking you moe in terms of best duo is in the league where do these guys rank now in other words seeing them the two the last few times they've been the playoffs they've been killing everybody no one ever thinks of them as one of the best
Starting point is 00:08:24 duos in the NBA ever. I never heard these two ever been brought up in that kind of like either oh LeBron and AD, Kowai and Paul George Jason Tatum Jalen Brown and this duo washes that duo if we're being 110% real so they're easy like fell off for two years
Starting point is 00:08:41 so people forgot about him. Yeah exactly. I think he's easily those two they're easily like top three. The thing about Jamal Murray is like he has he can get a bucket in so many ways he's not he's a he's a one of the best three three level scores and because of that his range the athleticism two on him he's one of the he's not a huge point guard but he's one
Starting point is 00:09:05 of the bigger more filled out point yards in the NBA today as well so like he's everything he's the exact type of finger you want alongside yokets and like for sure i just definitely the duo everything that yokech is good at and murray is not like they complement each other extremely well And that's what duos, this is, this is what duels is truly about. Exactly. I'm glad you said that. It's very similar to Janus and Chris Middleton, where they're one of the top duos, even though there's other duos who have two players that are higher caliber than Chris
Starting point is 00:09:36 Middleton. So, like, on paper, there's, there's duos out there that have two top 15 players, but Yonis and Chris Milton are still better, even though Chris Middleton's like a top 30 guy, because the fit is so perfect, it's super similar with this duo. Like, which one's better, Janice and Chris Middleton or Yonich and Jamal Murray? Who's better? It's tough. This depends on how you feel about these players.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Okay, right now it's obviously them because Chris Middleton's been to shell himself and he's been injured. Assuming he's healthy, then which duo is better? I think if Jamal Murray was in the Eastern Conference, he would have the same amount of, probably the same amount of all-sarrances. Yeah, Cassing and respect. He might have it after the win the championship, too. Yeah. I think Jamal Murray's going to finish all-time a better player than Chris Middleton. that's a disgusting like verb is to say
Starting point is 00:10:23 I know I know it's nasty I know but that's just the kind of man I am shame me I'll hold it with my test honestly I think I'd rather have that duo than Janice and Chris Middleton just because the gap is I mean there's a tiny gap between Jamal Murray
Starting point is 00:10:39 and Chris Middleton to be honest and there's still a ceiling for Jamal Moore to keep getting better too like I said he missed a year and a half like if that never happened like man if God didn't hate Nicole if God didn't hate Jamal Murray's knees he would be on such a trajectory right now
Starting point is 00:10:52 he would have made an all-star by now he'd be being talked about is like one of the better point guards in the league I think bro no no no no no no no no I remember back in 2020 bubble what the fuck was talking about how this man was better than Trey Young and so many other young good young point guards he was respected
Starting point is 00:11:09 yeah for sure but like imagine that didn't die off because he missed a year and a half he would be in a very high echelon right now plus he would have more time to develop and not lose at the time like we we missed out on some on some runs with these two guys yeah and then the Jamal or the John Morant started his leap as was for real Triangles doing phenomenal things in 2021 and then there's the Melville's to the world
Starting point is 00:11:36 Tyrese Halliburton oh god other other note though I'm talking about you miss runs with these two guys because he was hurt but you could also argue that him being out kind of like force yoke should take more leaps and become the better more aggressive score he is today that maybe without that this team isn't who it is maybe they wouldn't have erin gordon already maybe yokech wouldn't be like the top tier guy he is now i think when it comes to scoring i think he always did have it but i feel like back then he would just defer too much and even times yeah i still think he has that issue once in a while but like i i think he has a better sense of when to turn it on and turn it off and when he
Starting point is 00:12:18 he need he if i feel like he knows when he needs to get things going himself rather than trying to look out for other people on his team yeah 100% 100% i think i mean we saw that in game three though in game three of the lakers series like his first half was trash and then and then the second half he just looks he just looks around he's like all right like i you know lean that you know that that mean yeah where people just lean forward playing too okay that was yogic in the second half of game three he's like okay i'll just turn it on and it's funny because like he ends up with 24, 8, and 6, and it's like, wow, that's such a disappointing game for Yokic. And it's like, I don't know, he definitely is the best player in the world right now.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I think he is one of the most reliable. And one of the things that is probably a little bit underlooked is like, because his game is not based on athleticism and because he's not moving around jumping up and down, I don't think that there's like, obviously, I'm not, I'm not a doctor, so this is just like armchair science, but like I, but like, I don't think that there's like the possibility for like a major injury is there the same way they would be for like a yannis or people that we see like with Jaya or Zion and they're just like jumping, you know, just jumping out the gym. And so for Yokin's the durability factor, that 100%. In a league now where we see guys missing 20 to 25 games every single season and like,
Starting point is 00:13:47 For the Lakers and for the Sons, two of my big, big points for them coming into the playoffs. I don't trust them because I don't think that their stars are going to be healthy. I never have that concern with Yokic. Like, I think that Yokic is going to be able to play every single game, which is massive. And it's something that you don't see with every star. And so, like, if you put his talent and the availability factor, I don't think that. Also, mad clutch as well. Like, if you put the ball into Yokch's hands in the last five, in the last five,
Starting point is 00:14:17 in the last you know five minutes whatever it is you feel comfortable with him taking any shot on the floor the only thing that he doesn't have is elite defense but everything else is so much better than everybody else that it makes up for it so like yeah he's he's won and with this championship i i don't we'll we'll see how we'll see how we'll cross that road we get there yeah we'll see how i feel about the championship because i'll have plenty time for all-time conversations i was about to say say say something crazy. So we'll wait about another two weeks for that. Hey, you good. I took
Starting point is 00:14:51 a couple months ago in this podcast before all this shit happened. Man, I remember you said something like, Yoke's Gilly one of the best offensive players of all time, which I didn't think you're wrong. No, I didn't think you're wrong, but I'm just like, you know, now it's not the time yet that save those conversations. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:15:11 He is a basketball genius, and we've only ever seen people on that level be LeBron James, Magic Johnson, maybe Steph Curry. the way you look at it. He is, in terms of basketball minds, cream of the crop. He's literally the most efficient volume score in the NBA. A 70% true shooting percentage for most this year while scoring 25 points per game is utterly fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:15:32 That's like 2016 Steph Curry level stuff. While leading the, being won the top three in the league in assists, and probably the best passer in terms of like raw passing ability, not just playmaking, while being an elite rebounder, someone who makes his teammates better, he's easily a top five offensive player of all time. Easily top five. Easily, easily.
Starting point is 00:15:54 When you look back at this three-year run, I'm just saying it ends now, he doesn't have a seven-year run. Look at this three-year run, the two MVP and the second MVP, compare that to any three-year run in NBA history, you're not going to find five more impressive offensively.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yep, and the crayon eaters are going to hear that. They might clip at eyes. And be like, ain't no way he's fin of heat. Ain't no way you'll get some tween has he cross-a-case. zero chancing up in an offensive player. Full package, I think you're 100% right. So am I a crayon eater if I don't like, if I don't 100% agree, like off-rip?
Starting point is 00:16:25 It's low-key. It's almost objective pretty soon. Especially Wednesday. When he has a title, it's going to be really easy. Like, okay, think about it. Let's think about it. Let's do this mental exercise right now. You could say, okay, we'll go prime Jordan.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Let's give him the benefit of down. Jordan LeBron. The four off the top of my head are Jordan, Braun, Magic, Steph. I think you could say Yokish is a better offensive player than Magic because the scoring is so much better I think you could say Yokish is better offensive player than magic which I know is crazy because magic is so great and stuff
Starting point is 00:16:58 and Yokic his defense is one of a good defenders but his defense weighs him down more because he's a big so he's not obviously got to give magic the respect but if we're going to peak for peak it's not crazy to say Yok is just a good offensive player I don't know I don't know I have to I obviously he's close I don't know if it's like a no-brainer the way that you say obviously like this is on the spot you come back to me
Starting point is 00:17:20 next week maybe is top 10 a no-brainer oh of course not for you donovan yeah i know i know maybe he's still thinking about it wow i guess i guess i guess i guess it's not i guess it's not a no-brainer because i have to i like i want to have time to to think about it but i don't think it's crazy to say think about this way think about this way how many players have ever been a top three pass here and top three score at the same time i Isaac has had this entire rant written down in his journal. No, he has. Underneath his bed for years, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I'm unprepared. This is an ambush. How many players have ever been a top three score and a top three playmaker at the same time? I'll get back to you next week. It's LeBron James. Him LeBron and Hardin and Hardin is awful in the playoffs, so he can't be out there. Yeah. Not a lot of people on this list.
Starting point is 00:18:07 All I'm thinking about is, Zabron, to be honest. I think it's probably Jordan, Steph, Yokich. whatever order that's the top tier I think that's fair to say to be honest with you in terms of playing ball in the basket and being able to just
Starting point is 00:18:27 have defenses constantly on their feet and bending and warping defenses and having each and every defense in hell like I think you're that's very fair King O'em is that
Starting point is 00:18:41 he's Yokit is like that and people have been going so hard against him and like i remember i haven't seen any analytical stats or anything like that those type of people like bring up those arguments and how people are like oh like those that's the only reason why yoke's is great you're using warp and lelbron stat and blahze blah i like seeing the haters succumb to his greatness yeah it was always so dumb the narrative was that he's only good because advanced stats like a 30 point triple double is suddenly not
Starting point is 00:19:12 impressive like those are regular ass stats and he's incredible with them yeah Exactly. It's got a nasty on that side. I love to see it. Yeah, man. Let's talk about the other team in this series. Real quick, I just, real, real, real quick for, like, just one second. I just have to go off on a minor tangent that I have to start off with the, with Mike Malone and the Nuggets.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Shout out to him for the entire culture that he's created over there. Because of this new trend and wave that we've seen in the NBA with all these coaches being fired, Monty Williams, Co. Mike Bonnerosa, Nick Nurse, and just all these coaches who have proven track records and now you actually
Starting point is 00:19:51 have won coaches of the year over the last few years. Because of this dangerous territory we're in the NBA, I see a lot of coaches having a lot shorter release. And because of that, the culture,
Starting point is 00:20:05 it looks like a lot of teams aren't valuing culture being allowed to be built. And in my mind, And if we're in this space currently with all these front offices, Eric Spolcher, back in 2011, if he would have done something, if LeBron would have did what he did back then in this age, Eric Spoltser wouldn't be a coach anymore. And that's a great just to think about, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And I just have a lot of interesting thoughts about these front offices just being willing to tie, just to end ties with these coaches so fast. I think they're shooting the cells in the foot long run. You know what that sounds like to me? It sounds like the wonderful topic for a mojo. 299 YouTube video Maybe actually you're right I got to write this shit on my board
Starting point is 00:20:47 subscribe to the personal channel but you're right We're in a weird space for coaching right now And the fact that Malone and Spolshare are going to be the final two Is it going to be showing a lot for the value of continuity and culture like you're saying The NBA playoffs are here so that means that you should get in on the action with underdog fantasy The best and easiest way to play fantasy sports online you can play on the app or you can play online And all you have to do is say higher or lower on your favorite or least favorite players entries for the next night and if you get up to five correct stats on one entry you go in up to 20 times your money
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Starting point is 00:21:46 none of my bag Where's my pen and paper Oh my shit I got a lot of these euphemisms out there Don't remember Oh god Let's talk about it See ya man
Starting point is 00:21:55 The Los Angeles Lakers Tonight is a eulogy For their season They As you guys know Lost in 4 Got destroyed by the Denver Nuggets I shouldn't even say destroyed
Starting point is 00:22:05 Because every game was close But the Nuggets were just better And pulled out every single game That was the greatest sweep I seen in my life Alice off the end of the seat every game. Yeah, man, it was four straight, closed games and the nuggets came out on top of.
Starting point is 00:22:17 So, question to you guys, what is your overall feeling about this Lakers season? Okay, so there's two sides of it. I think one, on one side, if you look at it from start to finish, it is a disappointment because I think,
Starting point is 00:22:35 yes, even though that they made the Western Conference finals, I think it's a disappointment because they spent a lot of time in the beginning of the season, wasting it with the roster that they had put together doing moves that basically everybody had said coming into the season, you need to get rid of Russell Westbrook, you need to put shooters around LeBron James, and you waited too far into the season. Had LeBron and AD running Madman is putting a lot of pressure on them, you could have had a lot more continuity going into the playoffs. Obviously, you still got here, but I think that
Starting point is 00:23:08 I think that things could have been a little bit better for them at the start of the season. And so maybe they could have been in a position where they didn't have to, where they could have had like home court advantage in a situation, right? Like things, I feel like from start to finish, there was a lot of drama. There was a lot of up and downs. It was very, very rocky for the Lakers. However, I, for one, I know a lot of other people did not expect the Lakers to make it this far. I thought that they were going to lose
Starting point is 00:23:38 in the first round initially changed it after game one but like everything post all-star break is a complete success right like to every if you're looking at it from that standpoint
Starting point is 00:23:52 for them to be able to make the run initially to get into the playoffs into the playing that's great you beat the you beat the Warriors in six when everybody was saying that the Warriors were going to win you play the Nuggets semi close like that's cool right made to the conference finals
Starting point is 00:24:06 it as a as a as a lakers fan I can understand why you would have hope after the season I don't think I don't think that you should but I understand why you see it why you could see that way
Starting point is 00:24:19 but I love this man I'll get to it I feel like my point we've never once had a lakers conversation where Donovan doesn't doubt them in any capacity always just always got something bad to say what's your what's your final takeaway
Starting point is 00:24:33 for his liquor season I completely disagree with Donovan. I think this season was a massive success. They were fucking 25 and 27, I think, towards a hat. I think they're 25 and 27 by the time they made that trade, I believe, at the top of my head. And then they finished with, like, they were one of the five best teams in the league, I believe, off the top of my head once they, like, fully implemented DeAngel Russell, Van Doe, and all the boys. And so at the start of the season, like, going through all these injuries of Braun out, ADL, AD playing like Jesus Christ. LeBron like moving different towards the beginning of the season and then just with all the
Starting point is 00:25:09 lows the highs and lows I think everybody fully understood that this was a cooked product and there's nothing to root about or have any real like any real like optimism for whatsoever for what they don't deserve it but um fighting so hard and making it through the first first off there are a playing team I think I feel I think that happened so long ago It was just earlier this month or sometime in April where me, Isaac, and Josh S were watching the most egregious basketball played ever. It felt like a junior varsity high school game, bro. It was nasty. LeBron was fighting for his life against Torian Prince, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Torian Prince is sweeping his ass off. Nas Reed was giving them the business. And, yeah, boy, like that. But, God, it shouldn't be like that. And so for them to fight so hard to get to this. point like this season is nothing but a magic success but at the same time like because of the massive success and all the players like Austin raised and whatnot like I don't know how they can continue to build upon this that's going to be very tricky
Starting point is 00:26:18 okay yeah as a Lakers fan obviously I'm doing some water real quick I was sad when they got swept for sure didn't feel great I was I had kind of told myself not to get too excited by this team but a little bit of about me thought they could make a run, you know, going to the series, I was like, it's not impossible to beat the Nuggets. Like, they have some matchable advantages. Didn't end up being the case, mostly because LeBron didn't look like LeBron. But once I took a step back and got over the sadness of the fact that season's over, this season was a resounding success. You'd nothing really be upset about. In the day, they lost to the best team of the NBA by far, the team
Starting point is 00:26:56 that's going to win the championship. We're going to look back in a few months and be like, it's no sore spot in anybody's resume to lose to the Denver Nuggets. Everybody's not some different nuggets. And outside of that, when we talk about the season totality, Donovan said they wasted too much time being bad to start the year. I don't think they had a choice. You know, like, if they could have made a good deal to start the season to get rid of rest before the season started, they would have.
Starting point is 00:27:20 There just wasn't a good deal out there. The market didn't offer that possibility. So they started two in ten. Like, they're two in ten to start the season and then make the Western Conference finals. It's incredible. Incredible. And like, you said they wasted time and they could have been better. they got 10 games under 500
Starting point is 00:27:36 in the first 15 game stretch that's where the pit was dug after that they kind of they got back to being 500 almost when they traded Russ so they didn't lose a lot of ground that time where even if you'd argue they should have made the trade in like December
Starting point is 00:27:47 so regardless the best deal was going to be there at the trade deadline they made it and as a Lakers fan who wanted Russ gone they made it when they could have and the deals they made were incredible right
Starting point is 00:28:00 it led to the Western Conference finals they got young role players who fit around LeBron and AD perfectly. They let Austin Reeves breathe and thrive because he doesn't have to give up touches to Russell Westbrook anymore. He came into his own as a playmaker.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Rui, they got for fucking free for two second round picks. He looks like he's going to be an addition that's going to be with this team for a long time. Vando had some regular season contributions. Deal game clutch against the Grizzlies. I don't see any reason to be upset with anything. The real thing to talk about is that
Starting point is 00:28:27 it's highly unfortunate that LeBron heard his foot before the playoffs started, so we couldn't see early season LeBron in the playoffs. we're all talking about how washi looks a lot of people were saying like his days as a dominant player behind him he was playing with a torn ligament in his foot I think he'll be better next year
Starting point is 00:28:41 so with that in mind another year to gel with the team chemistry wise they're going to keep Reeves keep Rui I see a lot of reason to be hopeful for next year they got to throw a bag at Reeves though so they can match anything like no matter what they're going to match him
Starting point is 00:28:54 he's a restrictive free agent support the next year you're going to have a healthy LeBron who's a year older though but we'll see how that goes 80's going to be AD he's going to be the 10th to 15th best player in the league, whatever it is, have his regular inconsistencies, that's fine. Reason to continue to blossom into their
Starting point is 00:29:09 secondary playmaker, Ruey's going to be their starting three, they're going to have more role players so they have a full mid-level exception to bring in somebody solid. Maybe they make a kaii move, who knows? I don't see any reason to be upset as a Lakers fan. Okay, before I... Shit on him, Donovan. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Not yet, not yet. But before I go into it, I need to know in which world we're going to be operating in. Will Kyrie Irving be on the Lakers next year? Honestly, I think it's probably like a No, more likely not.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Let's assume he stays a boss to get the Mavs because they can't afford to lose them so they're going to offer him a fat-ass contract that they're going to regret, but they're going to keep them. Okay. The Lakers, no Kyrie next year. I think that for the Lakers to win a championship,
Starting point is 00:29:56 I honestly think that this was their best. Like, I don't, I don't think that they are going to be in the championship winning business for the rest of LeBron's career out there. They can certainly make a couple runs, but in terms of like getting to the finals winning championships, I don't think that's in the cards. And the one reason that I don't is because of LeBron and AD.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And we said, or at least I did, I'm not picking the Lakers to win a championship, and I'm not picking them to go far because I don't trust LeBron and AD to stay healthy for two straight months, right? And here we go again, they couldn't do it. And even though that AD stayed healthy, LeBron did. LeBron's going to be 39 years old next year. He has not played a lot of games over the last three, four years. Anthony Davis has not played a lot of games.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And this was one of the rare times in the last, what, four years? that Anthony Davis has been able to stay healthy for an entire playoff, uh, playoff run. I think that's a major, I think that that's a major concern for the Lakers. And so like, and you say it's okay that Anthony Davis is like, like he's going to have his inconsistencies. We rattled off the inconsistencies that he had this, this, this, this run. And it's,
Starting point is 00:31:20 it's, it would be something different if it was like, okay, like he's going to have like one bad game every, every, every series like he's going to have a stinker, offensively at least because defensively i'm not going to say anything about his defense otherworldly right offensively though as the number two option literally every other game he was he was he was he was he was terrible and it's like i don't think that that is a sustainable model for your second best player to be that inconsistent when your best player is also probably going to be fighting through some through some injuries yeah i get that i just i don't feel the need to harp on it because
Starting point is 00:31:56 202080 isn't walking through those doors it's who he is now he's not the top five player he once was he lost he's not aging incredibly well he's lost the step
Starting point is 00:32:06 of athleticism because he's put on weight he's not as quick as he once was not as high flying the jump shot fell off a cliff for no reason that has made him not a consistent score anymore
Starting point is 00:32:15 and it is what it is that's why he's like the 12th best player in the world instead of the fifth so I don't even feel to need to harp on him for it I don't I don't feel like it but that's the thing
Starting point is 00:32:22 it's not like it's not harping on it it's it's the it's a reason like it's a it's a serious flaw that i get that you know what i'm saying like that's a that's a that's a real thing that anthony davis and that the lakers have to now game plan and scheme around that this that your second best player is probably going to score 10 points every other night in a playoff series and so like if you're if if if ad is going to give them two games every series and now you like have to now you have to figure out okay like is ruhrer hachamora is like
Starting point is 00:32:51 is he going to be the same ruri or is he going to be the guy that we saw in washington for for six year's like this the runs that they got this year felt very best case scenario from the other guys right minus mine minus dilo mine that's a big minus right delo was unplayable banderbilt was unplayable he's that's that's deal's actually like that's who he is like he's every every play every playoff run that he has he has had these series where he's played for the other team right Oh, my God. So, like, so, like, Rui over, I think Rui overperformed. I think Reeves is, like, on the way up.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Like, Reeves is, like, actually good. Yeah, he's legit. Yeah. But there's a, there's a lot of ifs with the Lakers and a lot of, and a lot of the ifs, at least at the top are, are the guys going to be there? And I don't think that I can trust that. And I think that that's a serious concern. So that's why I'm not, that's why I'm not confident in them winning championships
Starting point is 00:33:47 after this. For sure. Yeah, but nobody is. nobody like that's positive is saying they're going to be a championship favorite next year that's like not the standard they're up to you not not faith even even not even not favorite even teams be a five seed you okay so five seed so if they don't win any more champions they're going to be three or four seed if they're healthy if they don't win any more championships in the lebron ad era would you be upset i mean that's a weird question because i'm a lakers fan like yeah i'll be upset but like will it be surprised no i think the standard i'm saying that me and everybody else is hopeful for them is that they're going to be the mix like they're going to be a contender that is the third through fifth best team in the west something in that range they can beat the grislies beat the warriors they're not a lot of juggernauts coming in next year like the nuggets you're looking at the nuggets the clippers still are still going to be consistent the grisies are still going to be young the warriors falling off i mean you say that but
Starting point is 00:34:37 there's i feel like there's going to be a lot of shifting because who knows it's going to happen the boston seas i feel like jane brown's a key factor and all that but regardless of fact i said okay she's coming next year okay okay okay okay Next year's not their year. For the next year's not the year for 10, but I see what you mean. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. They're coming, but they don't really move me personally.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I'm a believer in Josh Gidea, though. Shout to him, but I feel like. I am moved. Two more years, it'll be their time. I am moved. I am not moved. Danlin Williams moves me, though. But anyways, whereas in fact.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Is when they're going to be, for real. Ooh, I forgot about Ted. I forget even eating this, bro. These off-season pods are going to hit. I fucking, ah, God. Anyways, I feel like now that, now the Lakers have, They see the recipe, they see the vision, they see that they need to keep this youth that they have and continue to build on it. And I feel like although like AD, LeBron, they're going to be in and out consistently throughout the line, potentially, possibly who knows, that's the reality you're going to have to face.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And all you can do is just continue to optimize and move with your best foot forward. And if they reassign Austin Reeves, like they 110% should, hopefully retain Lonnie Walker. might be gone who knows who knows the case may be but if not find your mleek monk no line walker 3.0 go ahead like find de janez russell he need to kick rocks he needs to be banned from that facility um but continue to build on these little things to keep dennis shorter because he's a good great in grind guard i think they're in a great spot overall bro yeah and yeah like i said they're not going to be the Denver nuggets i don't know who the number two team is going to be out there next year but like
Starting point is 00:36:18 they're going to be solidly in the mix and if early season LeBron is back next year and he doesn't have his foot injury and he can look like we can get another good injury luck season from them they have as good a chance as most teams and that's all it's going to be
Starting point is 00:36:30 like you said the days of them being the runaway favorites are behind us like that's just not going to be the reality unless they go out and get Kyrie and somehow build a perfect team around them then maybe we can get there and maybe you could argue that since you don't feel good about AD being your go-to score anymore
Starting point is 00:36:42 maybe that motivates you to go and try to get Kyrie because maybe you feel like you have to have that star power now I would understand that but yeah yeah it's just a matter of expectations i don't expect the highest of highs from them okay listen listen as long as we're not going into next season expecting the lakers to be like to to to be like okay well they made the west of conference finals last year so like we're gonna we're gonna build off of that and we're going to get to the finals that i think is is naive and childish to do but see i don't think it's naive to think they can make the conference finals again
Starting point is 00:37:17 at that point you have a punch of chance like who knows I don't think he's naive to think it's possible it would be naive
Starting point is 00:37:23 to pick them as like the favorites to make the finals then yeah but to think that like they could be in the mix to do the same
Starting point is 00:37:28 they did this year and at that point potentially get by depending on the matchup I don't think that's naive at all I disagree I disagree
Starting point is 00:37:36 but again I'm not predicting it just saying they have a chance I think that's a very different thing I listen mathematically you're correct like if we're actually
Starting point is 00:37:47 like talking because they're going to have to play the nuggets sometime next year right unless something crazy happens like you know like what happened to the to the bucks issue you never know right that's the point you never know what happens injury wise every team the league so that's why you be in the mix is a good thing yeah exactly you never know cars breaking weird ways in the NBA okay listen however whenever we make our predictions we never predict stuff like oh yeah well this person's good this person is going to get hurt so then they'll face them and sure for sure every every prediction is always barring injury.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So I'm saying barring injury, I think it is naive to think that the Lakers actually have a chance at making the finals next year. Yeah, and I don't know what I mean to say you should predict it. I'm just saying like, that's why I'm saying there's value into being in the mix as a fan because all you can do is if you're a team that's not going to be the favorite in the conference,
Starting point is 00:38:36 try to be in that mix, three to five range or whatever it is, and then hope things break your way. Some team gets lucky every now and then. The heat made the finals two years ago because Yonis got hurt in the beginning of the bubble, and the bucks got swatted and things broke their way
Starting point is 00:38:50 even though they weren't supposed to be the one seed or anything like that. You never know what things are going to break. Who was the one seed that year? Was it the one seat that year? No. I have no idea. No, it was them.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I'm saying it was them. But they weren't supposed to be going to the season, but all they did was load up and be talented and it worked out for them that year. They were the one seed but weren't predicting to be the conference championships at all. That's how it went. I was a no,
Starting point is 00:39:14 where they did the year after that. I think you're right. You're right. They were the one seed last year. Whether he were the one seed last year? No way. Yeah. No, I think it was two years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Who knows, man. The heat are just the fucking heat. They're perpetually around. They're just around, bro. That's a perfect opportunity. Let's talk about the Miami Heat and the Boston Celtics. Because two days ago, we thought this conversation was going to be easy. The Celtics had gone down 3-0. It looked like the heat were going to trance their way through them and go straight into the finals.
Starting point is 00:39:44 But now, the Boston. and Celtics have won two straight games and currently trail the heat three to two and there's a lot of chatter right now a lot of chatter right now about potentially seeing the first three oh comeback in NBA history everyone's saying if you're ever going to see it
Starting point is 00:39:58 this would be the circumstance relax relax relax relax relax relax if there was any team to do that we have to be real it'll probably be this team but while I say that Donovan did give me some very interesting information and that is causing me to hold my horses
Starting point is 00:40:14 what I said now oh you told me me that uh i'm gonna let you speak on your business first i don't want to go ahead and give out your give out your bag but regards to the facts i forgot what i say i just be talking sometimes uh bro this team whooped the heat's ass now yes the he Miami wasn't fully healthy gave vinson whatever but still regards as a fact like gave benson or not they did it with we can be the good game bids and playing in miami they whipped their ass bro and they actually played normal Celtics basketball now still like I have like my concerns I've seen too many just
Starting point is 00:40:51 like what the hell was that type turnovers from Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown as usual which is like natural with how their play style is but if there's if there's gonna be a time to do it like it it may be this time do you guys actually think that the Celtics will go ahead and upset Miami Heat I'm never going to predict the first three-o comeback in history until it happens Like, it's, there's a reason it never happens. Mathematically, it's incredibly difficult. Would I be incredibly shocked if it happened? I guess not really.
Starting point is 00:41:21 It's a 2-8-3-0 lead. Like, like you said, if it was ever going to happen to be this time. But I'm not going to predict it. I mean, it's hard to win four in a row when you're outmatched for the first three. If the Celtics win game six, I'm probably, if they win game six, I'm probably going to pick them to win, to win game seven. Like, then game six is obviously the key. but but no right now i think miami wins in six i thought that miami would win in six before the series so i think that they go back to the crib they um they get it done because even though that
Starting point is 00:41:56 that like boston they went and they had a really good game by their standards Miami also had a lot of things not not even like not go their way but they also did a lot of uncharacteristic things tonight that that kind of set them up for failure i think when you go back home and you kind get a chance to catch your breath and they'll be on the flight back they're going to be fine in game six i don't i don't think that there's anything to to worry about the one thing like they have to get something out of kyle lowry if game vincent isn't going to be there like if if i was if i was the heat right we're recording this thursday night direct deposits normally hit on friday kyle lorry you don't get a game check for you don't get that right like
Starting point is 00:42:38 Kyle Lowry had played 28 minutes, have five points as a point, as the point guard, the only point guard, and have five points. Two of eight from the field. You sir, you sir get no check,
Starting point is 00:42:53 right? Bamatabio was on his way to not getting a game check. He turned up in the third quarter a little bit, but like, I think that like the heat, they lost the first quarter in convincing fashion.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Boston, everything they threw up went in. After that, they really they held their own and every quarter was was decided by like one point one points two points obviously that's going to be the difference in the game in playoff and playoff games but it's like if you can survive or if you can just not have the subject shoot 60% from three in the first quarter you're going to be okay they can play with these guys even though that they're down um even though that they're down vincent like they're they're going to be okay yeah i don't know
Starting point is 00:43:33 being down vincent means a lot just because they're already down hero now the out of Vincent. That's two starters. There's a lot of Hayward Highsmith minutes now. They just don't have a lot of bodies. And I don't know the status of Vincent's injury. It kind of came out last second earlier today that he was out. If he misses like the rest of series, it's getting scary just because the depth is not there anymore. And the reason they went on 3-0, which all credit to the heat for whooping the Celtics ass and the Celtics falling apart those first three games, a lot of it was shooting variants. Caleb Martin became a sharpshooter shooting 50% for three for the first few games. Same again gave Vincent. They have to be
Starting point is 00:44:06 incredibly hot to beat the Celtics team like this same thing all year the the Celtics have to be incredibly hot to beat the heat because this is this is how they play like this they play with a volume three point game they shot yeah they took 45 threes tonight they made 18 they shot 40% from three if they take if they either take the same amount and make let's say like 35% as a team or if they decide hey we're only going to take 30 tonight we've seen that whenever they don't take a lot of threes then then they don't So it's like they have to shoot 40% to win. See, but they don't have to shoot 40%.
Starting point is 00:44:42 They have to take a lot. It's a volume game for them. They have to make sure they're going through the process and getting their looks and getting to them frequently. If they shoot them all at an average clip, they're probably going to win. The math is there, and they have to go two wings in the fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:44:54 to close it out. The other hand, the heat, okay, they're supposed to, right? But it's about volume for them. In theory. But on the heat, it's not about that. It's about inconsist. You can't, you can't,
Starting point is 00:45:06 You can rely on volume. You cannot rely on efficiency. You cannot rely on Caleb Martin shooting 50% from three for three games straight. You cannot rely on Gabe Davis becoming fucking, I'm Gabe Vincent, becoming fucking Steph Curry for three days. Like, that is extremely inconsistent, and you have to hope it happens again, or you have to hope the Celtics fall apart, which is always possible. Listen, like I said, I would not be surprised if the Celtics come back, but I'm going to
Starting point is 00:45:31 give the heat the benefit of the doubt. We also need another Jimmy Butler-Superman game. It's been a little while. He's kind of cooled down a little bit. Yeah, exactly. I think he put up like 14 points or something like that today. He's been really quiet. We let him slide a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah, exactly. And I think times like this, being the underdog, this is where it heavily pays off because you escape a lot of slander because nobody's going to put these top dog type of expectations on you. But now I think... I have. Actually, no. He had 29 tonight.
Starting point is 00:46:05 He had 29 tonight. He didn't know. That was no. No, no, right, that was two nights ago. Look at the wrong game.
Starting point is 00:46:10 No, tonight. Tonight was not a great game from Jimmy Butler. It was. I lied, I lied. That was two games ago. It was, it was honestly,
Starting point is 00:46:17 and let me see, because basketball reference is actually messed up in this. Yeah, it hasn't, hasn't updated yet. Yeah, but so Jimmy Butler, tonight,
Starting point is 00:46:25 and this is the worst part about his game is that he only took 10 shots. That's, that's the worst part about tonight. Gabe Vincent goes out immediately. Jimmy Butler, has to, has to say to himself, and I, 100% that the heat would empower him to do so. I'm taking 30 shots tonight, right?
Starting point is 00:46:44 Like, I'm not, I'm not letting this game come down to, to, to bam, getting shots. Max Drews, right, Duncan Robinson. The game shouldn't be on them to be driving the offense. Everything has to be created and initiated by Jimmy because that's 100%. Yeah. That's how they've gotten here. And if Gabe is down, you have to take more on it. Ten shots is unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:47:04 It's also not that simple, though, because this is, you know the Celtics weren't letting him shoot right like it goes both ways with one less creator out there one more offensive liability in here at highsmith out there the Celtics just trapped the shit out of him every time we touch the ball Robert Williams was giving him fits doubling him on screens he blocked a three-point shot of his at one point like the Celtics have just done a way better job defensively eliminating the uh the go-to methods of the heat and it gets that that much easier when jimmy butler has one less creator next to him yeah absolutely wait wait go mom
Starting point is 00:47:33 no yeah i was just about to double down on what isaac said when you i don't want to say the game looks completely different without another person who can be a potential threat or be a threat to the defense with the ball in their hands but that's what it is with the miami and jimmy and jimmy and jimmy butler and so with jimmy bowler's nature too he's a willing passer and a willing playmaker although he will get his shit off but when you're just consistent like throwing multiple big ass bodies at him and collapsing on him on a consistent basis. The floor just gets so much smaller, and Jimmy's not going to, like,
Starting point is 00:48:09 forced an egregious shot. This is not who he is and what's in his DNA. He's kicking out to whatever that dude's name was. Heiser, whatever his name was. Haywood, He has two last names. Yeah, I know. I was, I was confused. I don't even know what to call him, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:25 We've seen Jimmy in this series and in these playoffs with tough defense. at least get shots up, right? Like, Caleb Martin took more shots than him. Bam took more shots than him. Duncan Robinson took the same amount of shots from him.
Starting point is 00:48:43 And listen, shout out to Duncan, though. He was, he was hooping tonight. But for Jimmy, at least early on too, because the Celtics were running up and down the floor. They were getting whatever they wanted in transition. They were getting a lot of wide open threes that way. And I think that Miami should have, they probably should have tried to slow them down a little bit earlier.
Starting point is 00:49:03 But, like, Jimmy has to be able to get to his spots quicker. And there were, there were a lot of actions that Miami ran where they were able to get him onto the baseline where he likes it. They were able to get him matched up. You saw him hunting Derek White a lot. And he didn't do a good job tonight being as aggressive as he should be. And I know that, like, I know that that you're saying that, you know, that Boston threw a lot at him. Jimmy is also good enough to To overcome a lot of that and at least put up some stuff
Starting point is 00:49:38 I just think that it's a it's bad to not shoot And from your from your number one guy To be out shot by by three other guys by two or three other guys Like Heywood Highsmith took nine shots and Jimmy Butler took ten Like what are we doing that's for a reason There's one guy that two bodies on him one guy that has zero That's how it goes like they tried Their goal was to take what was given to
Starting point is 00:50:01 and beat him that way, and it didn't work out. But I have faith in Spolstra coming back with some adjustments to that for the next game and finding ways to not let them do that. Which, I mean, the easiest way would be Vincent to be healthy, so you don't have to fucking play Hayward Highsmith, but we'll see. Yeah, exactly. One thing I forgot to talk about, we can move on from the series, because we'll see how it goes, right?
Starting point is 00:50:22 At this point, we're in a waiting game to see Artis Healthics going to come out and create history, or are we going to get the heat facing the nuggets in the finals? Too soon to say. but one thing I want to talk about real quick if we forgot to mention LeBron James talking about potentially retiring this summer. Cat.
Starting point is 00:50:39 This man is one of the greatest of all times when it comes to just starting a whole bunch of drama for nothing. I love it. He's a genius. I don't think it's for nothing. I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Everybody keeps saying that you're not leaving. Come on. You're not leaving. Your son's just signed to USC. You're not leaving. Listen, everybody's quick to say that, oh, it's a calculated media thing.
Starting point is 00:50:58 He wants to do leverage against the Lakers, I don't really think it's any of that. I think it was an old man who was frustrated. He was upset that he got swept. He's too good to be getting swept. He had dragging his body through the past few months playing injured, and he's very emotional, and they asked him on the moment, what you think about this?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Every other old player ever, the last seven years of Tom Brady's career were asking him about his potential retirement, and he's saying, oh, you know, I've got to think about it. It's just crazy to us that LeBron took until year 20 to finally say he's thinking about it. all these old motherfuckers think about it for a few years before they retire i think it's completely rational and completely honest of him but we all know he's not going to really the only thing that really scared me about that whole entire thing cross promise that he had was like
Starting point is 00:51:43 when he mentioned how he always wanted to play with his son brawny james but he was like yeah that may not be brony's goal or aspiration and i was like wow sounds like a good dad right there. He's a pile driving that entire narrative. Yeah, I want to pay with my son. He's any room. I go with my son. I want to go ahead and play with him. But he sounds like hearing that put me into a, it made me sit back and actually like see LeBron's career and like what, obviously what he's done. And if it's like worth continuously putting his body online, it's like that just to like play with his son. I don't know. Well, you need to keep your mic in front of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:52:22 no you're right yeah i was moving a lot you're right he probably didn't say that for no reason right he probably heard from ronnie that maybe he could tell he got the vibe that he's not as interested in that so yeah maybe that's yeah he didn't pull that out of his ass right there has to be a reason he feels that way yeah that was a sentimental he said and i was like damn yeah i this way how nobody thinks is even close to truth that he might retire like nobody buys it for whatever reason if he was actually now i would say if he was actually serious about playing with brawny he should take he should take next year off just make sure that
Starting point is 00:52:56 nothing crazy happens he should he should just sit out just sit out be courtside at all the the the USC games and just live life that's that if he will say that I feel like it's kind of difficult to take a year off of NBA routines and try to just get back into it like that's probably harder than you would think like to just get out of that mode and mentally get back into it especially when you're old and you already have to like gear up for like oh there's another fucking season like to have a year of that it's probably pretty hard to get back into that i mean but if he's playing with his son he'll probably be high so it's like that that'll probably give him that little adrenaline shot that he needs he'd be going through the motions yeah
Starting point is 00:53:31 yeah yeah i guess there's not much to say here because everybody's like oh cap but i don't think it's terribly surprising and i think it's very natural and honest of him to talk about his basketball mortality in that way because like yeah clearly he's at the point of his career where he's starting to think about it right he needs to stop blind to us that's what he needs to do I don't think he's lying But he didn't say I'm retiring He said I gotta think about things He has a lot to think about every summer
Starting point is 00:53:54 Lying or not This has to make Rob Polinkian Other than boys and girls in Lakers Runoffice start to think Like we gotta like Put all the tips in right now Because it's quite literally Literally now or never
Starting point is 00:54:07 Like do you really want to Do you really want to like bank Another year of Picks or ever In hopes and aspirations for a 40 year LeBron and like a no i don't know 31 or 32 year old ad finally being healthy again like hell no it's now we're never they're not they're not going to do it then they're not going to do it they had opportunities last summer to do that and they understood like hey lebron's not going to be here in five years like
Starting point is 00:54:33 we're not going to we're not going to mortgage the future in order to do that i don't think it's that they just traded 2027 and get rid of russ i think it's just the deals that are available like it would not be sticking trade 2029 i think they're probably going to do that 29 yeah that's the next to pick them available. No, no, I understand that. I'm just saying, I don't, I don't, I don't think that they have, like, another, I feel like the deals that they made at the deadline, while they were able to get them with great value,
Starting point is 00:54:59 I don't, I think, like, that was their all-in move, and they should probably be preparing for the end of the LeBron era and probably try and, like, set themselves up, so they're not out here trying to rebuild, like, the Brooklyn Nets, who are in a hole every, every 10 years. They're probably trying to do something similar. Yeah, but the thing is that they can also, if they combine Malik Beasley and who was it in the salary matching situation? I think as Malik Beasley and Jared Vanderbilt, their cap holds together with the first round pick, they can get to like $27 million.
Starting point is 00:55:36 So they can make a sizable trade if something's out there. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. Yeah, we'll see, man. That's the topic for another day. No topic is for right now. Tick-Tock time That's exactly what I've been waiting for
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah Time to get the stuff everybody's here for Get these short segments out there Yeah As always We're going to start with a draft We've done a few drafts now Where we limit it to team-related drafts
Starting point is 00:56:04 So like we drafted Warriors We drafted Lakers, Celtics I think it's only three you done so far Today we're going to do a draft Of only players who played for the Knicks Yes sir So we're not drafting the Knicks version of them We're drafting the prime version of any player who played there for even a second.
Starting point is 00:56:19 It could have been a 10-day contract and it counts. Okay, bet. What draft we did we did last time? We did the 2010 draft. I went, who went first? Mo, and picked Janus? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I do, I literally don't remember that. Yeah, Mo got Janus and I think I got Yokic. Yes, you went second. Okay, so it's you first, me second, Mo third. Fuck, so. Okay. There we go. Let's draft NBA lineups with only players who played for the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Everybody in their prime. Listen, I don't, I don't care who's in their prime. Give me, give me Carmelo Anthony. Give me Carmelo. I knew you're going to give me Carmelo. Shout out. Listen, I'm glad you did that. Give me Patrick Ewing.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Got that. Nice. You got Patrick Ewing. Give me Derek Rose. Oh, that's a good thing. I was hoping he fell to me. Yeah, so I got Derek Rose. and then along Derek Rose, give me Amari Stadermeyer.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Oh, okay. It's a nasty pick and roll. Yeah, I need it. Hmm. Okay, there's a lot of guards here, but I'm just to get this guy early just to make sure I have them. I have my point guard situation finished. Jason Kid. Nice.
Starting point is 00:57:33 That's good. I will take Tracy McGrady with my second pick. He played for the Knicks? He was a Nick. Damn. Yep. I'll take, I'll take, I'll take Jason McGrady. Get that man in an an aneurism.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And then Let's see Do I want to go With my big next Nah Alright We're going size Give me Penny Hardaway
Starting point is 00:57:54 It's a good pick Damn You're in your bag right now This guy isn't the best player here But there's not a lot of wings available So I'm gonna reach Give me Ron our test Okay
Starting point is 00:58:07 Okay I saw that Okay I saw that coming That's nice That's nice So I got D-Ros Amari started
Starting point is 00:58:15 This is kind of thin, but give me Christops Porzingus. Fuck, I was the pick him, you took two of my face. I'm here to tear your life down, Isaac. Fuck. And then. That's it? That's it for me? Well, no, he's back to back.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Oh, you're three. Oh, I'm tripping. I'm tripping. Yeah. My bad. Yeah. So I got, yeah, okay, cool. So I got Christos Perzinius, D.
Starting point is 00:58:43 D. Rose, I'm Laurie Stoddemeier. why am i blanking right now yeah okay zero's monitor i'm i i need a three and then i also need a fucking two who are some of the give me just for the vibes give me jr smith i need to respect okay that's a crazy pick it's a crazy pick it's a crazy pick it's any bernard king is my two yeah i know wait who'd you take he said i said me okay okay okay okay Day R. Smith. All right, got you. It feels so nasty saying that.
Starting point is 00:59:19 All right. We're going to fill out, we're going to fill out the four and the five right now. At my four, give me Rashid Wallace and at my five, give me DeKimbe Matumbo.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Oh, okay. No, Matumbo played for the Knicks. Everybody played for the Knicks. Oh, my God, man. Listen, this is a weird pick, but I'm going fit.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I need spacing in this line up somewhere. For my four, give me Danilo Gallaudari. Okay. He got buckets. I like that. Sometimes. I like that.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I like that. Okay. Sometimes. Well, he's healthy. All right, cool. So to round this off, I need a three. I don't know why I'm scratching so much. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:00:02 I need to pick RJ Barrett. Who? RJ Barrett. I almost threw up. Jimmer for that is still on the board. Yeah. Jimmer for this. is still on the board.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Can I interest you in Julia Randall? No. Ew. God, that's gross. Would you like Andrea Bargiani? I'd rather have Pablo Brigioni. Hey, that's his pick. Write it down.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Write it down. That's his pick. Listen, no, it's not. Damn, yo, I'm blanking right now. What the fuck? Discount double-trane? And also, no. The hell, man.
Starting point is 01:00:41 And also my computer. Josh Hart. Josh Hart. Josh Hart. Listen, Chris Duhon is right there. No, screw it, whatever. Give me. Jerry Jeff. He never played for the next.
Starting point is 01:00:55 He doesn't ever thought. He just tries to. Like, that's what I said. Love me some names. Love me some random names. Jerry Jeffries. Who the hell is that? I thought he said Jared Jack for a second, too.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Listen. Screwing. Give me, give me a manual cookie. Whatever. My laptop is cooked. Yeah. I know. My laptop is cooked.
Starting point is 01:01:15 You suck. You suck. My laptop is cooked. I have no reason. Is that the last big? Yeah. Yeah. I started off so hot too.
Starting point is 01:01:27 That kills me, bro. That's terrible. Okay. Please tell us your team. Let's do our team. Let's do our team. Because I need to hear it. I need to see what you got.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I got Derek Rose, J.R. Smith, Emmanuel Kickley. Amari Stademeyer and Chris. House for Zingis. This is the worst fucking team ever. I started up real hot. 36 wins. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Yeah, this is not my bag. Jason Kidd, Bernard King, Meta World Peace, Danila Gallinari, Patrick Ewing. All right. Your team's going to struggle to get buckets. Old-ass team. All right. I have Penny Hardaway, Tracy McGrady, Carmelo, Anthony, Rashid Wallace, and Dekimbe Matumbo.
Starting point is 01:02:14 You did this for all of the, you did this for all the NYC crown eaters. Donovan was in his bag. That T-Mack pick is crazy. Yeah. Listen, Bernard King's better than T-Mack, but the comments aren't going to know about Bernard King, so, is not going to go well. Listen, I don't know. Prime Timak?
Starting point is 01:02:33 The Hez-E was different, bro. The Hes-E-Mack was different, bro. Bernard King would think that was mad. That is wizardry. That's what I'm saying. Prime T-Mack would jump over Bernard King. But, he didn't play in the 50s. Prime Team Mac
Starting point is 01:02:47 was still Postarizing Yeah, that man would That man That man would have thought That was Voodoo being happening in bro
Starting point is 01:02:54 Nope He's not Bob Coosie What are you talking about? Okay, next thing we're going to do Is we're going to do a tier list As always It's always our number two TikTok these days
Starting point is 01:03:03 Today we're going to do a tier list of NBA signature moves That'd be from individual players Their go-to moves I like that So let's put these NBA Signature moves into a tear lift.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I'm going to include that. I know you're I had to do it. First off, the looking at the hand, la fuck you three. This is about a, this is like a B.
Starting point is 01:03:32 It's falling off very quickly. And it's just the stupidest move. This is the most, this is the most old man move I've ever seen. It's like, it's a much more flair than substance. We're going to one C
Starting point is 01:03:47 I want to give us a B though Because when it works The name is funny though Yeah exactly Okay we'll give it a B just for the name Yeah The name is fire The James Harden step back three
Starting point is 01:04:00 I mean you gotta give it You gotta give it S A you gotta give it an S tier This man made a career off of it It can't be an S tier Because it doesn't work in the playoffs So he can't deny it an A That's true
Starting point is 01:04:13 In the playoffs Regular season Unstoppable Playoffs Impossible Yeah But simply But remember that one time
Starting point is 01:04:23 He damn near He literally broke Basically broke Patrick Beverly's Kneecaps When he crossed him back When he was in LA And also
Starting point is 01:04:31 Some dude I think his name was Xavier Johnson He We've never heard of him After he got crossed over Back when James Hart Was in his rocket days
Starting point is 01:04:41 That was About Wesley Johnson Yeah He's talking about Wesley Johnson johnson there we go wesley that's a disgusting best name by the way it deserves a for the highlights a yeah clear there we go all and iverson crossover that's an s t that's an s t's an s easy s here he changed the crossover was iconic yep yep the influence is crazy that's easy yeah no that's what that the moment he pulled it out for the first time is the moment bob coozy knew he
Starting point is 01:05:07 didn't like the martin NBA uh yeah easy We need to get Bob Coogan out of a podcast. Oh, my God, bro. You put it in front of a screen, his brain's going to fry. Oh, my God. Next one. The Joelle Embed second round playoff loss. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:05:31 That's disgusting. That's disgusting. Listen, it has to be S-tier. It is the only unstoppable move in the history of the NBA. I mean, you're not wrong. It's never not wrong. worked so like literally he's undefeated when it comes to that bro one of the greatest of all time we've never seen none like it a generational talent something always goes wrong he finds
Starting point is 01:05:53 a way no matter right and because of that he is the man and that's an s it is literally the only certainty in sports history it has never not happened yeah bro lastly the dirk one leg fade away oh that's an ass yes tier oh it's a tier yes tier Because only he can do it. It's a whole new slag brought to the game. It's a personal room. It's a, it's not replicable. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:24 There you go. It's crazy because nobody even tries. Like who else even attempts that? KD tried it. I mean, I see people. KD tried it a couple times, but it's not like. Ron does it a little bit actually, low key. But it's not like consistently in their bag.
Starting point is 01:06:36 But you're right. It's, it's no one, no one keeps it in their bag routinely because it's just not their bag. They just do it for the game. Yeah, the volume is crazy. Yeah. Dude for the highlights. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:48 So that's the tier list. Next thing we're going to do, we're going to do something we've done a couple times now. We're going to do a draft but of player's skills to build the perfect player. And last time we did point cards, today we're going to build the perfect centers. Okay, okay. Yeah, and we did only current players last time. This time we're going to do all time.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Oh, well, yeah. That's fair. We have to do all time. Yeah, it would be more interesting. So the skills are going to be buying. Body, defense, shooting, passing, and instead of finishing, let's do post moves. Instead of finishing, let's do post moves. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Yeah, so body, defense, shooting, passing, post moves. And we're going to draft those instead of positions to make the perfect player. So it's basically another draft. Okay, okay. Who went first last time? I don't think I remember my first. I think I did. I did.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I got stuff shooting. I went third. I remember that. I had back to back. Okay, so it's Mo, me, Donovan. That's the order for this. Yeah. So, let's draft the perfect NBA centers.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Let's draft the perfect NBA centers. Hit this with it, Mo. Body? I'd be a fool not to pick, Shaq. Are you kidding me? Go on body first pick. Okay. Give me body first pick.
Starting point is 01:08:05 First pick. I'm going to take the biggest advantage here. Give me Yokage passing. Okay. There's no close. second that is true that's that's fine that's fine give me hakeem elajuan's post moves I wanted his defense nice um and then give me I need a nice passer you know what 2K deep cut give me Arvita subonis pass damn what I can't destroy your mic you
Starting point is 01:08:42 destroyed the audio I can't have shit give me Carl Anthony Town shooting kill me now and what the hell in there what can I have this world's against me all right damn it back go ahead draft for you like yeah this is this is go ahead um you said you got Carinthian town shooting mm-hmm okay Go ahead and give me Is Chris Osprezingis considered a center now? Yeah, you can have him.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Yeah, give me Chris Osperzingis shooting. Okay. Say that he gave him some more confidence. Yeah, he doesn't want that. I did not. I had to double check. I do want that, but I have to double check. I'm just looking, I'm looking for scarcity right now.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Okay. Damn. Give me Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's post moves. I can't believe I let that fall to you. Yep. I'm skyhooking. Step back threes. The best passer.
Starting point is 01:09:50 All right. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Give me Bill Russell's defense. And... Ooh. This...
Starting point is 01:10:02 This one's tough. This one's tough. Okay. I'll go here. Give me David Robinson's body. Oh, I wanted him. Damn. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:10:12 So fast. That's a good pick. I love that. I love that. Okay. Oh, I just realized Moe, you didn't go twice. Pick a little player now and I'll just edit it back into the right spot. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Okay, cool. Go ahead and give me Joel and B's post moves. Okay. Got the power game. All right. All right. So now, I have shooting, passing, and post moves. You picked Bill Russell.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Hakeems off the board. That sucks. I need passing. You know what? Give me Dwight Howard defense. I'm that three-town defense player of the year. That's a smart move. Cough of my ass off.
Starting point is 01:10:49 You're turning again, Bo. All right, cool. So I got a shack body, Christop's shooting, Joel and B. Post moves. So I need someone's passing. Dyerly. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:11:09 You know what? I'm going to go ahead and give me he's about to sell ladies and gentlemen no no no I'm not going to sell I'm not going to sell this I'm just imagining to edit in my fucking head go ahead damn I might sell this six times pick a player
Starting point is 01:11:35 yeah I know my mind is freezing this is all time and y'all select players that I fucking wanted what was the other uh what was the other two attributes right body defense shooting passing post moves oh cool that's perfect uh go ahead and give me give me anthony davis defense okay you go back and then after that i have passing left and for passing i'm going to go ahead and accept I feel like Paul Gasalt threw some nasty passes in his heyday. So give you Pablo Salt bashing. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:12:13 I feel like you could have got the other, the other brother. But it's all good. It's all good. I'm going to take the steel of the draft, Wilk Chamberlain's body. That is true. I'm playing Woodchamling in a basket. No, no. We got real NB players around us.
Starting point is 01:12:31 So how real of a steel is that? Exactly. Very. all right i need some shooting so let's go to splash mountain all right i need shooting so let's go to splash mountain himself give me brookelopez the shooting okay that's a good pick for the last pick of the draft yeah that is unorthodox i like that what a way to cap it off no midrange bag at all but you can shoot some piece that's all we need listen i have hakeem's post moves and brookane his shooting. We're good.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Yeah, we're guys. Yeah, you don't stop. I said, to name it off, I have Walt Chamberlain's body, Dwight Howard's defense, Carl Anthony Towns is shooting, Nicole Yokch is passing, and Karima Abdul-Jabar's
Starting point is 01:13:13 post moves. Good grief. Who did you just make? I think I might have the best in four categories. You might. I have, uh,
Starting point is 01:13:25 I have Joellen Beats' post moves, Shaq's body, Christop's shooting, Uh, and then I have, what the hell am I thinking about? Yeah, I just got Palisal's passing. Yeah, I just got Palisal's passing. And then, uh, someone's defense who I'm just, I'm blanking right now. Who's it?
Starting point is 01:13:44 You got AD's defense. Yeah, AD's defense. There we go. All right. I got David Robinson's body, Bill Russell's defense, uh, Brooke Lopez is shooting, Arvita Sabonis is passing, and Hakeem Elijah wants post moves. Oh, nice. That's nasty.
Starting point is 01:14:01 That's nasty. You should have, Mo, you should have picked the other Sabonis is passing. I don't know. Yeah, you're, I felt like I could have, but I don't know. I just didn't feel right about it. I didn't feel right about it. I'd rather have probably solved. The Vinci's memories are in my head.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Sabonis went out soft too, so. It does resonate. All right. Next video, we're going to do which NBA moment was more embarrassing. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. This should be a fun one, okay? He gets some jokes off.
Starting point is 01:14:34 So, which NBA moment was more embarrassing? LeBron's misdunk the other night or Brandon Knight getting dunked on? Oh, Brandon Knight getting dunked on 110%. Brandon Knight. Listen, LeBron, that was an embarrassing moment. Brandon Knight's moment, that was life-altering, okay? There's not just one moment. He can't go anywhere anymore without people saying, you got dunked on.
Starting point is 01:14:57 so maybe being on the this lebron looked old as hell and it was hilarious very embarrassing for it all time great but being on the other end of the most disrespectful dunk of all time potentially that's all you're going to be known for forever there's no safe zone for you bro every time you walk into any a you can't they're going to point to you like these and they're going to point at their phone like these
Starting point is 01:15:19 you're done you cannot be around sixth graders ever exactly yeah for sure brandy night What a tragedy career Poor guy I don't know why I matched us too It was a terrible matchup I typed that wrong I like it
Starting point is 01:15:35 Well they rock though Steph Curry Slipping on a dunk attempt Or Camelo Anthony's two foot air ball shot I think Steph Curry It's Steph Curry's I don't know man Listen
Starting point is 01:15:50 Camel Omanthie was so close He could touch the rim He just People miss shots all the time step legoofy slipping and he's wide open and did the ho it's like it's like you put a banana peel right there it was ridiculous exactly exactly and i remember that he was against the lakers too and he when he really went to go dunk we rarely see step dunk we really see we rarely see step dunk and so like when that's why it's up for it it's like oh man you should just laid it up and you better make it's not
Starting point is 01:16:22 man yeah i don't think he's tried since that one time he's like nope not again i try to give you all fucking won. It didn't work out. Yeah, no, no. His reputation is too strong for it to be tainted like that. So lay that hell out. He went home with a light bruise. How annoying. Yeah, broken tailbone. The Houston Rockets missing 27 straight threes or James Hardin being blocked by Mono Genoble in Game 6? 27 straight threes. Easy. Easy. And it's not even that. It's what happens. afterwards and the fact that the Rockets sent a letter into the league crying about the
Starting point is 01:17:02 miss calls to try to make up for the miss shots you guys are nerds and y'all suck that is embarrassing this was so embarrassing because it's almost a mathematic impossibility and they managed to do it you know how sad that is I don't think we will they made history that night we'll never see that top of we'll never see that level of play ever again bro that was generational basketball But, bro, money was so old when James Harding got blocked by him. Facts. Incredibly. He was a corpse.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah, exactly. So it's like Prime James Harden doing the crazy number, and he gets stopped by that? I don't know. But 27 is an outrageous numbers. I have to go with that. 27 is outrageous. You couldn't do that even if you tried. How?
Starting point is 01:17:52 That's hilarious. Next one. J.R. Smith. forget. I don't even call this. J.R. Smith's infamous finals blunder or Javelle McGee running the wrong way after a rebound? It got it. It has to call Javelle McGee.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Right? If you can at least, at least for J.R., you're like, listen, the stress got to him, right? It was a big moment. Jabelle's running the other way in November. Like, bro, focus. Focus, please. What's the funny part is? It's Javel because he's running so hard. He's putting his all into it.
Starting point is 01:18:31 He's getting back on defense. He thinks he's going to be applauded by the coach. Absolutely. He's going to get more PT doing this, bro. But no. The quiet opposite is going to happen. You only see that in first grade YMCA games. Like, come on now.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Yeah. He was, no, he did. No, he did. He said, he go. Yeah, Javels is 10 times worse. Even though that happened to me. final still way worse bro god what a guy
Starting point is 01:19:02 next one paul george hitting the side of the backboard or dami luther's game winning shot in his mouth paul jrish can't win holy shit me personally him hitting the side of the backboard in a completely empty arena alongside that the announcer saying
Starting point is 01:19:22 way off is so bad holy cow bro that should must have been so loud. No acoustics, just boom. And it's crazy, because Paul George had to hear the announcers say way off, too. He had to hear that. Only people were the crowd were all their baby mommas. They're just laughing
Starting point is 01:19:41 at them. Exactly, bro. No way, no way there's worse. All the virtual fans were pointing. That was supposed to be the best Clippers team in franchise history and the defining moment is that. sad yeah last one
Starting point is 01:20:03 Brandon Knight missing a wide open game winning layup or Nick Young turning around and missing the three this is tough poor Brandon Knight I don't know
Starting point is 01:20:16 it has to be Nick Young listen that clip and that meme of Nick Young thinking he made it we've talked about it before that's a 10 out of 10 meme
Starting point is 01:20:25 right that's an all-time meme it surpasses just sports right you can put that meme into any exactly
Starting point is 01:20:35 Nick Young embarrassed himself with that yeah this meme Nick Young in that moment will live beyond our entire
Starting point is 01:20:43 but beyond our years period bro it'll it'll live long enough for our kids kids to see this so Nick Young I'll laugh at that though
Starting point is 01:20:52 Brandon Knight just looks like he's ass it's not even funny I know. You just feel bad because it's like, man, another one, really? God. Yeah, like, yeah, you're always like, there's a Brandon Knight tax that everything is hilarious
Starting point is 01:21:04 when Brandon Knight is on the opposite end of the highlight. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like you can find a 10-minute low-light reel that'll leave you in tears of Brandon Knight. Like, if that was Luckba, Mute, it'd only be kind of funny, but the fact that it's Brandon Knight again is hilarious. What a deep cut name. I haven't heard his name for a friend. Canbao Muta is hilarious, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:28 I thought that was a random guy I could think of. That's crazy. That's hilarious. Before we get out of here, we have one more video. Mo, I think you have some baby pictures to show us. Yes. So, for the viewers out here, I'm going to send these people some baby pictures. And we're playing a little game called Guest the NBA player by their baby pictures.
Starting point is 01:21:50 So I'm going to load the first one up. Donovan, I know your Wi-Fi is. hook, so I'm just going to wait a second and get this hook right. I'm going to say it a couple of times. Guest the NBA player. Oh, no, I got this. I got this. Oh, wow. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Look at us. We're coming up in the world. Look at us. All right. Guest the NBA player, buy their baby pictures. Okay. First up, who is this child? He's in hell hard.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Bro, who the fuck is this kid? I don't know. I don't know. Listen, this is a big baby right here. Yeah. This is a big baby. You know, Clay Davis? Look at the smile.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Look at the eyes. Look at the nose. Look at the hair. Yeah, see the resemblance? That's Big Baby Davis. No. He's in the NBA today. Oh, dang.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Is this Joellen Bede? No, that is a great guest, though. That is not Joellen B. All right. Who are the fat guys? Oh, this is an American baby, isn't it? Yes. That is a good guess.
Starting point is 01:22:56 It's an American baby. Who is this? Who is this kid? I don't know this child. L. Okay, I'm just guess. Is this Julius Randall? No.
Starting point is 01:23:09 It is not. That's a good guess. That is a good guess. Y'all see it, right? Yeah, actually, you're right. Look at the eyes and the formation. Yeah. Side of that.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Side profile. Yeah. For sure, there's great guess. I give up. Who is this kid? Who is it? Yeah, I give up. Who is this kid?
Starting point is 01:23:26 This is James Hardin. Oh. Yeah. You shouldn't put a beard on that baby. I don't know who this is. Put a whisker on that. That was generic baby. No defining features in that baby.
Starting point is 01:23:39 All right. Who is this baby? Which one? Next time he got some chains on. This is more of a elementary school picture than a baby picture. Is that Deer and Fox? No. Wow, you're so wrong.
Starting point is 01:23:52 This picture is a way to old to be Deer and Fox. Yeah, I know. Dearn Fox is 12 in like 2011. I know. Your timeline is wildly off. Yeah. Yeah, Deer Fox is our age. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Now, Deon Fox is a little bit older than us. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, he's one year old in us. He's 2017, though. I ain't going to lie. He looks like a, he looks like a bastard with this picture right here. You got the hat to turn back. You got to cut that.
Starting point is 01:24:22 You got to cut that. What are we doing? this person has a gap to this kid looks like a hall of fame swiddler okay wait okay wait listen this person is clearly wearing rock-aware stuff
Starting point is 01:24:36 right this is 2003 2004 era okay so they have to be what about eight or nine which means they were born in like 1994 so they're hmm
Starting point is 01:24:50 huh who is this baby yeah he's playing in the lead today yeah he's in the NBA today. All these players are mostly these players in NBA today. This Jimmy Butler. No. Okay. Jimmy Blur did not grow
Starting point is 01:25:02 up in a household for real. This is not J.B. Oh, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. You don't think that there's any pictures of Jimmy Butler prior to it to him. That is true. But Jimmy Butler looks happy and his childhood was supposedly
Starting point is 01:25:18 sad. So I don't know. Do you think every day is bad? All right, move we're going. People in poverty can have good days too, you know? Oh, my God. Okay. Who is this kid?
Starting point is 01:25:33 This is hard that I thought. Yeah, this is hell hard. Who is this? Is this Bradley Beal? Yes, Bradley Beal. Yes. This is literally Bradley Beal. He's a swindler, bro.
Starting point is 01:25:43 He looks like he just out here, schemers because day one. Ain't no way he didn't. Ain't know way he has no kids back in the lunch line, bro. What? I can tell for the chin. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:25:53 It's a chin. It's a chin. All right, who was this baby with the basketball on his hand? Okay, I got a bowling shirt. That's a round baby, man. Let's see. This looks like Julius, too. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Every play, you know. Oh, my God. I see a familiar face in this baby. It's coming to me slowly. No, man. Is this Anthony Edwards? No. He's wearing tummy.
Starting point is 01:26:21 That's not a terrible guest, though. he's wearing Tommy that is a good yes what does that tell me I don't know look at the nose in the ears in the eyes
Starting point is 01:26:31 I thought this is pretty obvious it's just telling me that this kid is black like that's I can't get anything else with a laughing nose oh my god oh my god
Starting point is 01:26:43 is this Evan Mobley no this is not Evan Moble it's weird I feel like this should be like this kid is mad this child is dark skin though so like
Starting point is 01:26:53 Like, that's context clues. Evan Lovie is not for real. Okay, you're right. Is this kid an All-Star? Yeah, this kid is an All-Star. Is this LeBron? What? Oh, my, that is the worst guess I've heard in my life.
Starting point is 01:27:06 I don't know what LeBron looked like. He would manhandle babies. What are you talking about right now? Have you ever seen Baby LeBron before? His baby is big, too. What do you mean? Yeah, but baby LeBron looked like he used to handle shit for real. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:20 In order to go by Baby LeBron recess his playground you need to check in with him like it's wrong with big homie no it's not I can't breathe I don't know I don't know who this fat baby I don't know what to do I don't know who this is oh my god I'm crying real tears I don't know who this is I don't know who this is I don't my god my eyes i can't we're just roasted babies at this point i'm not even guessing i don't care who this is this jalen brown yes it's jalen brown oh wow god you bitch me all so much bro fuck you let's go no cry bro my fucking his stomach hurts oh my god i'm gonna throw up
Starting point is 01:28:20 Oh my goodness. Oh, my God, I can't fucking breathe. Bro, I'm crying so hard. Oh, my God, okay. Oh, my God. This tissue's all wet for my tears. He said the bra used to man-handle baby. Oh, bro.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Smur was not allowed at daycare. All right. is this baby his face is very distinct that's chris middleton that's christ middleton oh my god what do you try to see he's not in the NBA right now oh that's not Chris Middleton is this
Starting point is 01:29:02 Reggie Miller? No they got a long head man I don't know who is this Rhondo? No this is not Rondo who's this light skin child I don't know well you said they're not in the NBA
Starting point is 01:29:18 yeah they're not in the NBA Is this Ray Allen? No. Terrible guess. No, it's not. The forehead is huge. Oh, shit. Oh, good, man.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Who is this? Their face looks recognizable. I feel like whenever you tell me, I'm going to know. It's not Reggie Miller? What the heck? Is this Mark Jackson? No. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:29:43 His picture has to be in black and white. Yeah. Michael Red? You said Michael Red, no. no Michael Red Baby Pitch I would be upset Chris Bosch I don't know
Starting point is 01:29:54 Chris No you can tell Chris with his neck This is not Chris Fox That's crazy This is the craziest I've ever had I don't know
Starting point is 01:30:09 I don't know All right People that are watching to the end This is hilarious This is well worth The price of admission Okay listen listen Just give me an era
Starting point is 01:30:17 Of player 2000s Okay 2000s Super early 2010s and then he was out Is this Vince Carter?
Starting point is 01:30:30 No hell no I want to say Ray Allen again No this player was none about buckets bro
Starting point is 01:30:39 Oh he was all about buckets And that's it Is this Jamal Crawford No That's not a terrible Yes not into no not Rip Hamers
Starting point is 01:30:49 buckets yeah I give up who is this kid who is it Monte Ellis oh yeah that makes sense
Starting point is 01:30:58 that makes sense yeah okay all right who is this kid black and white Frankenstein who is this
Starting point is 01:31:06 Frankenstein who is this you give us a black and white photo yeah who is this kid yeah I think it's kind of obvious
Starting point is 01:31:15 because this this kid looks kind of crazy is Zach Randolph No Oh my goodness You're gonna hate yourself for it When you don't know who this is Does there Bobby Portis
Starting point is 01:31:25 No not Bobby Portis It's not a terrible guess Because he's crazy as fuck too Is he a current player No he's not a current player This is black and white But this is a crisp Black and white photo though
Starting point is 01:31:39 This is a stylistic choice I see the confusing Look at the eyes It's all in the eyes Oh he is That boy has dripped out Oh my god I'm going to drip down the cost
Starting point is 01:31:53 Listen I'm trying to stare Into the like eyes of this child I have no idea who this is Stair into the eyes He's dark skin Not Not in the NBA Okay can you give us the era
Starting point is 01:32:09 Yeah Early 2000s This guy Towards Ben Wallace Super late Two, it's towards the super late 2010s. No, no, Ben Wallace. Super late 2000s and their baby picture is black.
Starting point is 01:32:25 My bad, my bad, my bad, early, my bad, early. Who's crazy? Crazy players. Is this Ron Artes? No, you're in the same, you're on the right track, though. Stephen Jackson? No. Stephen Jackson.
Starting point is 01:32:41 No. Al Harrington. Nope. Germain O'Neal. No. is he a wing uh no he was not a wing that should give it away
Starting point is 01:32:55 who is this kid dude doesn't oh is this kevinternet yes look at him you look at a badass kid what he looks like he's gonna torment you at the fucking lunchroom what are you talking about oh kidding me this is no that kid is scary
Starting point is 01:33:09 yeah that kid's scary I got it I got it I got it you got one more for us yeah I got one more Oh Lord Yeah, I got it It's not gonna be bad This is the craziest second I've ever had
Starting point is 01:33:24 Who's that first baby again? That first baby Oh, that's James Hardin I already forgot All right Fucking babies, man This is hilarious Jaylon Brown was crazy
Starting point is 01:33:38 Who is this baby? Did somebody look like their baby picture? Oh, that's Joella B There you, fuck, okay, there we go That one was so easily Bet Look at that fucking smile Here's the cheekbones
Starting point is 01:33:52 Okay, let me give you one more Let me give you one more That was easy Send this over quickly Oh this is hilarious Well, hold out Okay, there we go Oh, that's calling you a West
Starting point is 01:34:06 That does look like him This player is out of the NBA I see This looks like this is Kedjik Birkins No This is a good cast but no You can tell this is an old player though Super He's not super
Starting point is 01:34:21 But era Early 2000s This guy Hmm This is Early to late 2000s No Early to late
Starting point is 01:34:33 I don't know these children You can't tell by the Facebook features Look at that The sharkless of the head I think that kind of gives it away In the nose Sharpness of the head Yeah
Starting point is 01:34:47 Got a sharp head Bro In the 2000s Yeah Is this Sam Cassell No No No
Starting point is 01:34:57 Come on now Now you wouldn't You would know Sam Okay Chauncy Billups No No no
Starting point is 01:35:04 No no No no No no No I mean The The kids Kind of Not like
Starting point is 01:35:10 Fully Big Bone But like He didn't there That's a large child You're right This This kid is filling up the onesie
Starting point is 01:35:20 I was saying Yeah this This dude did grow up tall I'm over this He was jumping out the gym Yeah I don't know He played for your team At one point Donovan
Starting point is 01:35:32 Jumping up Is this Amari Stonemar Yes Amari Stonar I see it I see it I see exactly What we need to do next time
Starting point is 01:35:40 We need to play Like 20 questions or 10 questions but with the baby pictures Oh, that's a good one That's fire Okay Yeah man
Starting point is 01:35:49 That was the funniest segment we've ever had The episode's over See ya See y'all next time

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