The Deep 3 Podcast - The Suns Are DONE With Chris Paul, But Why? | Ep. 40

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So today, obviously, we got to start by talking about the NBA finals. We're three games into it. The nuggets are up to one. It's been great. But first, first things first, we got to tell the people about our merch that is finally dropping today. They've been asking us about it for weeks. It's finally coming out.
Starting point is 00:00:16 You're all crispy. Yeah, we've been wearing it for like a month now. And everybody always comments, when are you guys dropping it? When are you guys dropping it? It took us some time to get it ready, but we're dropping it. We're having four different colors of a hoodie that you see Donovan wearing, four different colors of a t-shirt. that you see me wearing and four different colors of a long sleeve plus a couple hats so i think you
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Starting point is 00:01:07 What's changed from your perspective? Nothing for me. Nothing has changed. I think a lot of people after game two try to do like some overcorrection and like a lot of people really, really would like, oh, well, listen, like the heat, like they're in control of this series. like they're going they're going back home like if they can get game three they can really flip this and it was like it was never going to be that Denver was never going to go down to one they played as bad of a fourth quarter as they could have in game two Miami played as good of a fourth quarter as they could in game two and I just feel like even going into game three Denver had won a majority
Starting point is 00:01:49 of the quarters like they're playing just better basketball than Miami and so I never understood the idea that the heat we're going to legitimately take control of the series and go up to one. So like we are, like you said, we are where I thought we would be at this point. And so everything is just chalk right now. I'm crying, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah, that's the same way. Yeah, like, looking back at Eric Spolster's post-game conference about like, or Ramona Shelburne asked him about a question. He asked, she asked him about her and his entire game plan of Hyde Gardner. Nicole Yooker's or whatever and she basically said like the truth I would say or
Starting point is 00:02:29 released to the naked eye and Eric Sposa felt like he was like hold your horses like this shit is not going to be that easy and like we sell what they tell people what she said because she was basically implying that the way people decide to guard him is either allowing him to be a playmaker and double teaming him so he can't score or allowing him to be a score and not helping off him so he gets buckets he doesn't get to kill people with his passing that's what she implied that they were doing And Eric Spolcher was like, that's bullshit. You don't know what you're looking at.
Starting point is 00:02:58 You don't know what you're looking at. Untrained eye. I feel like that's a Hall of Fame slur right there. Not slur, but it's a hall of it. I mean, listen, the way Spolcher said it, he meant as a slur. All right. Untrained eye. It might seem that way to the untrained eye, but it's not that simple.
Starting point is 00:03:15 You can't make him a score. He's too good for that. And I think what he meant by that, first off, there is something to that. But Ramona Shelburne didn't pull that out of her. ass. Yeah. There is something, too, you decide to double team him or you decide not to double team him. I think he was just being a bit of a dick about it.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And what he meant was, it's not as black and white as, like, let him score or don't let him score. It's more like, the priority is not to let everybody else score, and he's going to do his thing regardless, but it's not about letting him score. I think he was being a little bit of a dick about the specific language. What she said wasn't. She wasn't off topic that much. Yeah, it sounded like, I feel like the reason why he was a dick is because it, me,
Starting point is 00:03:53 may have felt like oh wow you think my job is that easy like he he made it seem like we were everyone was like oversimplifying his job and all like the insane brainiac type of research and stuff that he does in the back end of things so yeah overall a lot times people definitely oversimplify NBA coaching so I could tell why he'd be a little uh yeah sensitive about the topic yeah yeah exactly but overall like with this series I think I said that the Denver Nuggs will probably win this I had them in six. I just feel like some way somehow,
Starting point is 00:04:26 maybe he will go ahead and win two games, but I don't think they got anything else after that. And even if it goes to a game seven, I'm still probably going to take the Denver Nuggets. But I still stay ten toes down with my original prediction. This is going to be over in six. And they're just simply like outmatched. You can only get so many good games out of a bam, out of bio,
Starting point is 00:04:50 and also Jimmy Brother, who's been, he hasn't been that good and he's been a mid yeah he's been that ankle injuries you could tell us slung him down a little bit he's not quite as
Starting point is 00:05:00 doesn't have the burst he had in the first couple series but let's talk about why they won a game because like Donovan said a lot of people their first reaction to them winning a game
Starting point is 00:05:07 was like oh maybe the nuggets are beatable because that's the first other nuggets have lost a home game in the whole playoffs so a lot of people
Starting point is 00:05:14 were like listen we've died of the heat for four series and every time they prove us wrong maybe they're proving us wrong again and they can win it all but Like Donovan said, they played the best fourth quarter imaginable and they shot the shit out of the ball like they do in most of their wins. So maybe that's just the thing they do. But I think the main thing was Denver's defense was horrible. They were incredibly disciplined. Yeah, they made the most mindless fouls at anyone. You would think you're watching like, you're thinking you're watching youth basketball with the way KCP was flying around and just doing the most like insane things. And then also like while. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:51 you're doing the crazy you're just like not using your head on defense you have people like gave vincent who was one of the he's a foul merchant is clear as day he's one of the i didn't know he was one of the best in the NBA until i started watching these files but he's just doing the most egregious things to get that call off and it's working so i felt like Denver had everything going the wrong way against them in that game but even then like they still were in the game and that just goes to show how good of a team this is and they're just outmatched in my mind yeah yeah their defense is really takes terrible, and they just gave up way too many.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Like you said, KCP fouled two three-point shooters. Michael Porter, Jr. was defending, like, rookie Michael Porter, Jr., just not, no clue where he was on the court at any time. And the zone defense at the heat liked to run that before the series started, we talked about just won't work against Yokish. It worked a little bit in game two. Yokic had four assists and five turnovers. Like, they were able to make the nuggets uncomfortable, mostly because Jamal Murray
Starting point is 00:06:45 couldn't get going the whole game. It was like a C-minus Jamal Murray game. I don't remember his exact stat line, but it was not. nothing special but these are all things that we're pointing to that like the nuggets just played bad like it wasn't a whole lot of like adjustments the heat made from game one the big adjustment was starting Kevin Love so Aaron Gordon doesn't have the big size advantage over Caleb Martin but I don't think we think they won because Caleb Martin didn't start right Kevin Love wasn't the answer Caleb I mean listen it it helps right it helps because in game one because Aaron Gordon
Starting point is 00:07:16 was just bullying them in game one right and if they had stuck with what they were doing then then like they then the nuggets could have gotten away with a bad yokech game and they could have gotten away with a bad murray game because erin gordon was just going to bully game vincent for 48 minutes right so like you're by putting kevin love in the starting lineup you forced denver to actually start you know showing the cards going going to the bread and butter and making sure that like okay you guys are actually going to have to play basketball to beat us and you're not just going to you know overpower so i think that helps a little bit even in game three like Kevin Love he starts the game off with the with the three there's some there's some shots that he
Starting point is 00:07:55 that he can make you know there's a little bit of spacing that he provides um so I don't think it's like it's a good move yeah yeah it just not it's not like a checkmate that like people were like you said people were acting like after game two that he had like a much bigger chance and they thought they had before and I just don't think that's the move that made that happen you know I don't why don't I don't think it Loki could have but I think part of the problem that's not going to look that way is because Jimmy Butler is just off like his ankles
Starting point is 00:08:26 cooked and he had a he had a good first quarter in game three but after that he didn't really provide much and so it's like BAM at a bio is the best offensive player that he have had this entire series which is wild because if you told me coming into the series that BAM was
Starting point is 00:08:42 going to average 23 he was going to be knocking down mid-range jumpers the way that he is I would think like hey potentially if he's if he's playing like that then maybe Miami might be up to one. But Jimmy Butler just hasn't been able to be playoff Jimmy, the guy that we lauded him for the first three rounds of the series, and it's really, really hurting Miami right now.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yeah, it's also because the heat, I mean, the nuggets are forcing the heat to beat them with mid-range jump shots. They're giving him that open every single time because Yokic is playing a huge drop and just like saying you're not getting to the rim at all. I saw a stat earlier that the heat players are shooting 23% worse at the rim when contested by Nicola Yokic. He's defending his ass off at the rim as a rim protector because they're playing a huge drop.
Starting point is 00:09:24 So all Bam has is those floaters and mid-range pull-ups. So when he hits him, cool, but it doesn't shock me he's hitting those because they're wide open and Nicole Yokish doesn't even put his fucking hand up most of the time. I mean, listen, we've seen, we've seen Bam not be able to make shots wide open before. So, like, the fact that he's been able to come out and look as aggressive every single game and be able to take advantage of what Denver is giving him, that's a really big step for him. And it's a really good thing for Miami moving forward. They need to, whatever drugs that they be given the horses, they need to give Jimmy Butler, right?
Starting point is 00:09:59 His ankle needs to be fixed tonight because, like, if they go down 3-1, the series is obviously over. There's nowhere they're beating Denver three straight. And they have to get it to 2-2 and they're going to need Jimmy Butler to show up. Even if he does what he did in game six of the conference. finals where he has a terrible first three quarters but somehow it's like an eight point game in the fourth quarter and jimmy's like i guess i'll make a couple shots now and and shows up in the fourth quarter whether you need to like load to manage him within the game do whatever you need to but there has to be some creation from him and he can't just be a decore the entire game you know what you
Starting point is 00:10:41 need that sounds like you need tyler hero man apparently his hand just gets numb every time he touches the basketball so I think he might be cooked he's done he's done he's not coming back he's not coming back for game four that's what that was confirmed earlier today he's still out he said every time he goes on the court and tries to get shots up his hand goes numb so
Starting point is 00:11:01 they showed him they showed his hand I think it was before either game six or game seven of the conference finals and he didn't have the rap on but it still looked swollen his hand looked crazy swollen it looked like discolored I don't listen I don't think it did anybody any favors by showing
Starting point is 00:11:22 Tyler here a warm up on the court and it's very clear that that hand is not okay yeah yeah he would definitely help them right but I just I'm not I'm gonna assume he's missed so much time that even if he comes back he's gonna be a shell of what you thought Tyler here would be so I'm not even gonna like think about that as an addition they're gonna have for the series but to give Miami some credit after we're basically been talking about how we still think the nuggets are going to win pretty easily which that's the general takeaway, but to give them credit, I just love watching them play because we talked about how they beat the Celtics
Starting point is 00:11:53 by just basically putting them under immense pressure all the time and forcing the Celtics to make decisions, and they didn't have a lot of playmakers, so they can't do that very well. But it's interesting how, like, that style of play seems like it'll work against almost any talent level. Like, the heat are going to be in every game. They're so hard to blow out. Like, granted, we just saw them lose pretty bad in Game 3,
Starting point is 00:12:14 so maybe this isn't true, but the fact that the way they play, by just making everything incredibly hard on defense and making enough plays and enough shots to keep themselves in the game to the fourth quarter. That's just a really interesting style of play that I wonder if we're going to see other teams try to replicate going forward. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Try to replicate? No. I don't think it's trying to replicate. If you cannot play like the Miami Heat, right? Like if the heat wanted to play better basketball, if they wanted to make more shots and do stuff like that, like obviously they would try to. this is what we've seen from the heat is them pulling together every asset that they have
Starting point is 00:12:50 playing a little bit above their means because they've shot like 50% from three like four of the last like seven games or something stupid like that nuts the shot making from the heat has been insane in this playoff run it so if you want to say yeah every team in the NBA will love to shoot 50% from three yeah I guess I guess so but I think like this like hang it around and you equated to football it's kind of like the okay you you know, play good defense, run the ball, right? It'll be a one-possession game in the fourth quarter. I feel like people kind of fall into that,
Starting point is 00:13:24 in basketball, more so than football. But you kind of fall into that just because you don't have that high-end talent. Yeah. I mean, that's the only team. I mean, I guess you can say the Knicks and the Grizzies are kind of similar in the last few years. Hmm. I'm playing like, no, that's like the Knicks' old thing, too.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And the Grizzies, like, winning with rebounding, turnover battles, transition. like it's not like it's my it's not groundbreaking to win with a little stuff you know what I mean yeah but I guess more so what makes the heat special is they do that while also having a very egalitarian offense with a guy in that in the fourth quarter can take over he kind of like coast the whole game and keeps everybody involved so they can stay above ground and then fourth quarter he turns on that mode and does what he has to do attack and mismatches that's an interesting combination I guess the next are kind of similar with brunson and randall like brunson kind of
Starting point is 00:14:13 does that in the fourth quarter to two yeah but he doesn't as much he doesn't as much coast in the first half like jimmy does sometimes yeah and he's he is he is 100% like directing the offense every single play where yeah we're like you said with with miami you have a lot of stuff where where bam is bam is at the top of the key right we're they're running uh dhos off of off of him trying to find cutters trying to find shooters but i think the big the biggest thing for Miami this series is you got Max Struce and
Starting point is 00:14:44 Caleb Martin combining for 11 points a game Not great That's not that's not great Celtics fans have to be sick Watching they are they are 100% That's terrible that's trash That's trash yeah
Starting point is 00:15:02 I follow a lot of Celtics fans and they are very upset they're like They got hit with the voodoo black magic Power of Friendship this must be the other Martin twin playing from the Hornets Row because there's no way like this is the same dude who was literally
Starting point is 00:15:16 giving Jason Tatum buckets in a game 7 and also game 6 throughout their entire series so like the only ways I imagine the Miami heat coming back and making this series interesting again it's still interesting let me
Starting point is 00:15:33 I hate that I said that making the series like yeah it's basketball but making giving the Denver Nuggets a serious run for their money and like, you know, step me up to the plate. As if, of course, like Donovan alluded to earlier, if they hit hell of threes, that's just like their go-to thing throughout this entire postseason run. They are hitting insane shots.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Gabe Vincent has been ridiculous. And Caleb Martin and Max Trues and all them guys, it's either that or Jimmy Buller has to, like, actually come to life. And I don't know if either of those things are attainable because as time has gone on through this postseason run like both things have been tanking slowly so I think they just
Starting point is 00:16:14 Josh Hartman yeah Josh Hart destroyed Jimmy Butler's ankle Oh my God bro Get out of here Motherfucking But Let's talk about Go ahead
Starting point is 00:16:24 No you go ahead You go ahead Okay I was gonna say Let's talk about the team that won game three Yes let's talk a little about the Nuggets Because Man After game two
Starting point is 00:16:34 Like we said they lost mostly Because their own mistakes and their own lack of effort on defense and playing the worst possible game that could play for finals intensity. But game three, game three, we saw the best version of this Nuggets team
Starting point is 00:16:45 that has us confident again they're going to win the series. Yes. Bro. Not only did Nicole Yokic have 30 points, 20 rebounds, and 10 assists. Jamal Murray had a 30 points.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I was going to mention the exact same thing. Since I didn't catch a game in live time last night or whenever it was, yeah, last night, I had to rewatch the game and I noticed while I was watching these games like, damn, like, this dude, Jamal Murray is kind of diving shit up. Like, why?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Like, I go ahead and I look at the stats. He's average 10 assists each and every game so far this post so far in the NBA finals. And there was this one play specifically to where he was about to get doubled closer to the half court line. Kind of he was like 30, 30, he was like 30 feet away from the basket. And he went ahead and jumped in the air and kind of did a double clutch shot. But he ended up swinging it to, I think, the rookie, what's his name, Brown? Brown, yeah, Braun.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And he looked like, don't call him Braun. It looked like he was going to swing it to Yolkich, but he double clutched it and swung it. And a ball looked like it kind of had a curve. Maybe I'm chirping or maybe, I don't know, but it was an insane pass that he made to him. And that's something that a lot of people who didn't see in Jamal Murray's game earlier in his career. And so just seeing him take major strides and leaps and be like a legit like secondary star to Nicole Yokic is insane. And this is going to, he just got his rep officially in the NBA and there's zero chance that he doesn't become an all-star next year unless he's like ass. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Unless he's injured again. Yeah. You're 100% right. The big two takeaways from last night is once again, every realized Nicole Yokic is one of one. He is of course. One of the most talented offense players I've ever seen. One of the most skilled big man, whatever, whatever all-time thing you want to put on it. He is that guy.
Starting point is 00:18:38 People are saying, like, he's our generation's Larry Bird, whatever. Like, there's comparisons flying around. Whatever you want to say about him, absolutely true. But Jamal Murray is not just, like, the skilled point guard that's there. If he comes back healthy, they can make a run. He's a legitimate second star that is not as important as Murray. Not as important as Yokic, but, man, it's damn near. Like, he is super vital to this team.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah, he's important to them in terms of. just like amplifying what the Denver nuggets are good at and how they should be playing and he makes Yokic's life so much easier because Jamal Murray's he's one of the more easily one of the most aggressive guards in the entire NBA he's always looking to for the most part get his shit off that was his thing coming into um pause but that was his thing um getting out of Kentucky stuff like that so for him to make these type of strides huh I said that wasn't a pause You didn't even need to pause that. That's why Isaac did.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I felt like I, whatever, regardless of the fact, this dude, Jamal Murray, he is, I think, quite literally the greatest playoff riser in NBA history. I think I saw that that said he, his career average it in points per game in the regular season is like 17 to 18. And in the playoffs, it's 25.5. That's an insane jump. Yeah. That's an insane leap, one to none. It's nuts, man. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Listen, it's what's crazy and like, I think my take away from the Nuggets, game, game three win is a little bit different. And I think it's, they still have another level to go to. Through three games, I still don't feel that the Nuggets have, like, have played a complete game. And I feel like, I feel like, like coach, I feel like, like, that's just like coach speak. Like, after every game, every coach is going to, is going to, is going to. to tell you whether you win or loss or we have another level to go to Denver actually does Michael Porter Jr. hasn't been great this series. He shot one for seven in game three. It's been trash. KCP was one for four. Bruce Brown was one for five. They still have a lot of the key guys who
Starting point is 00:20:54 haven't shot well. And so for game three, I saw that more of okay, Yokic and Murray are picking up the slack for everybody and like they're they're on and they're doing their job. If they, like in game four, I think that at least one of MPJ, KCP, Bruce Brown, one of those guys is going to have a good game offensively. And at the bare minimum, if they can stop fouling three-point shooters, which it seems that one of the three does every quarter. They are, they're fouling three-point shooters like nobody's business. That's probably why Miami is staying in, in each of these games, because they're getting a free three to six points every quarter. But I, Those guys, those guys, if one of them can go off,
Starting point is 00:21:38 I think Denver easily beats Miami in game four. I think that they already will beat Miami in game four, but they could have another blowout win. Yeah. It's interesting to say that those role players are struggling, and they still won by 20 because that just shows their depth, because Christian Brown just took over and just decided the third quarter was his quarter,
Starting point is 00:21:58 or maybe it was the early fourth quarter, and he just was attacking off the dribble, defending his ass off, getting turnovers, is like, when you have the ability to have Michael Porter Jr. and Chris Casey P. and Bruce Brown, Bruce Brown, suck like you said. And you're still have role players to give you contributions. And they're good role players. Like, you're like six players deep at that point. That's incredible. We're not even watching basketball right now with the Nuggets. It feels like. Christian Brown's with their ninth of best player and he's taking over games in the fourth quarter. That's ridiculous depth. He's a rookie. That's insane. Shout out to their scouting team, man.
Starting point is 00:22:35 God damn, they're elite. Yeah. And it's so funny because, like, and it really just comes down to they need two players to go off next to Yokic. Yokish is never going to have a bad game. It's impossible.
Starting point is 00:22:47 All he does is eat. You just got to have one of your star level players do well, and then one of the role players. Game two, they lost because Jamal Murray wasn't on shit and none of the role players were. Game three, Jamal Murray was on a lot of shit doing crazy and Christian Brought took over. That's all you need.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah, the formula is very, simple. So I think, I'm happy though, I think we're all in agreement that Denver's, we all think that Denver's going to win game four, right? I don't know game to game, but I know Denver's going to win the series. Stand on something, Isaac. He never want to pick. Lame. That's what I'm
Starting point is 00:23:19 saying. What do you mean? I said Denver's going to win the series. I just told you. Man, who's going to win the next game? I asked the question. Is Denver going to win game four? Yes or no? It's a, that's a one Sure. Yes. Thank you. Yes. Yes, they're going to win. Thank you. Mo. I think I'm just I think Denver is going to lose game for
Starting point is 00:23:38 Do I truly believe that? No, not not anymore, but I'm only saying that because I have to stay ten toes to my original prediction And if they're gonna win a game if Miami's gonna win two games and they're gonna win a game in Miami Zero chance they win again in Denver like that's I just don't envision a world in that happening whatsoever So I think this is there one one in Denver Not another one they're not only there are one winning two in Denver It's crazy as hell. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Whether they win one more game or no more games, I don't care about how fast never wins. I don't have a strong prediction that way, but I would bet a lot of money that Denver is going to win the series. If they do go ahead and win this series, man, oh man. If I'm a star player, I am salivating over the opportunity to go ahead and go to Miami because, like, that's literally picture perfect. Even though, yeah, like, you know, they have pieces, quote, unquote,
Starting point is 00:24:33 they're not they're clearly like one of the worst I hate to say this but they're not they're not up there when it comes to best Eastern Conference teams over the last few years or best NBA finals teams over the last few years at all they're probably the worst I don't know man I mean I mean no but they keep making it so yeah so like at a certain point we have to re-evaluate what makes a good team
Starting point is 00:24:55 in this conference because they've been to three conference finals in the last four years two NBA finals like at a certain point there they are the best team in this conference like you can only ignore results so much that is that is true but holistically thinking comparing all the other teams that they had that have made the eastern conference finals or came out of the eastern conference over the last few years i'm pretty much taking you know the other team over this current miami this current miami heat squad i'm taking like the 2020 miamii over this team for sure why just like the same team tyler hero
Starting point is 00:25:33 Tyler here's not dead We're talking about next year Tyler here's going to be there Yeah I'm dead I'm dead I'm dead But yeah Actually
Starting point is 00:25:42 Which team is better I'm I think I'm taking BAM is a lot better this year The only difference in 2020 is Jimmy was healthy And Tyler Hero was there But like Gabe Vincent's here now Max Trues
Starting point is 00:25:54 Caleb Martin Like I think this team's probably better When I think Caleb Martin Caleb Martin Listen he had a very good seven games Right K. Lamar, like I said earlier, he's averaging 5.3 points per game.
Starting point is 00:26:06 He's showing us why he got cut. This is why. Well, listen, Gay Vincent wasn't here in 2020. Gabe Vincent is nice. No, I like Gabe Vincent, but there's a lot of, there's a lot of other guys. I might take 2020 Duncan Robinson over, wow, we are in the weeds right now. Man. I think I'm taking 2020 Duncan Robinson over this version of Duncan.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I like he's the same player people just didn't people just know how to guard him now exactly the element of surprise is gotcha i'll take that i'll take j crowder because he was a little bit more playable than than kevin love um yeah they they had some i think 2020 was a was a was a was a good that was a good heat team yeah jay crowder's a good a good reason to pick that team um man yeah man i i guess you can move on. I guess, well, I don't even know if we're going to have a chance to talk about the series again before it ends because we do it once a week. The series might fuck around to be over by this time next week if they win in five. True. Congratulations. Denver Nuggets. You are the 2023 NBA champions. Congratulations. God, doesn't it suck that Nicola Yokic is not
Starting point is 00:27:22 going to have, imagine if you actually won MVP this year, he would have easily like one of the Don't get me started. I know. It's okay. You can, don't get me going. You can put your swords down. Okay. We got robbed of one of the all-time three-year runs you've ever seen. Yeah. Which, granted, it's just to be fucking MVP. It doesn't even fucking matter. This is just as impressive.
Starting point is 00:27:43 If you still have the same season? Yeah, exactly. It sucks because that's the type of stuff that matters when you talk about the game 10 years from now. Yeah. And it would have been such a strong on-paper argument. Okay. Question. So, assuming that Miami does lose this series by the time we record this again, where do you go next if you're then?
Starting point is 00:28:02 let's save that for next week when they actually lose we'll play in time to dive into that okay okay okay keep that in mind that's a long conversation that's a long conversation so well let's not get ahead of ourselves and let's not jinx it too bad so we end up looking stupid I'll stand on it the legacy to win this series there's no way Miami wins this series the NBA finals are here so get in on the heat versus nugget series with underdog fantasy the best and easiest way to play fantasy sports online all you have to do is hit higher or lower on favorite or least favorite players stats for the night and it's super simple to use you can play it on the app or you can play it online and if you sign up today using promo code TD3 underdog fantasy
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Starting point is 00:29:08 they're probably going to but they're meeting with him and they're going to decide if they can figure out a trade figure out a way to cut him and have him re-sign under a smaller deal or if they're going to wave him all together and have him and find a new team but whatever way it goes it seems like they've decided
Starting point is 00:29:23 they're not paying him and they're probably done with them waving him is crazy dude yeah that was a crazy tweet you see just pop up yeah is this the right move by the sons yeah well i mean actually no if you're if you're not going to get anything for chris paul like at least get a second round pick or do something but if you're going to waver you can at least get that and just try and get some type of assets back but i don't think that there is a world where if you have devon booker and kevin durand we talked a lot about it whenever chris paul was out you had nobody to initiate the offense for that team and you
Starting point is 00:30:04 just had two guys who are amazing 21 players and they can go get buckets anytime that they want right yeah and listen king of the court three dribbles give me devon booker give me kd but in a five in a five in a five-on-five playoff series i need a distributor i need somebody to set up the offense and even though that chris paul gets her every year it's still nice to have one of the greatest basketball minds on your team and I think cutting him for nothing is a mistake
Starting point is 00:30:31 it's assinine I mean some simple simple in plain it's assigne yeah it's purely a financial thing right like if he was making a small amount of money
Starting point is 00:30:41 they would keep him and they would trade him if they could but nobody wants that big contract so yeah if they could find a trade and get value great but it's like
Starting point is 00:30:51 they tried right you only do this type of move and cut him if you have like a promise And it sounds like we're not going to, we're not going to get this just now, but like they have something in the back of their pocket because you just don't make a move like this out of nowhere just because you want to be done with them and save money. You have to plan out for that money. And it sounds like they already have something in the back of their pockets, something that they've already brewed and planned over the last few weeks since they've been shuffling front offices or people in front office or whatever. So now, like that's the only thing that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Because like Donovan said, aside from who KD and Devonberger, who can once in a while, like, you know, create plays for others and whatnot, that's not necessarily their bags. I would say, even though they're hired at it. Like, there's no, there's no other than that and also, like, finances, like, there's no real way to make this make sense, you know? Like. Yeah, but what's the, what's the, you said that there's probably a promise of a person they're going to get to replace them. Who? Katie does not want to play with Kyrie again. why would he?
Starting point is 00:31:54 Kyrie just flicked him over several times. Hell no. Fred Van Vleet. Is that a Fred Van Vleet sign and trade maybe? It's hardened. It sounds like it's hardened. I don't know, but we're seeing, we'll get to harden a little bit,
Starting point is 00:32:04 but we're seeing a lot of reports that he's from Woj that he's torn between Houston and the 76ers. He's not torn. He's not torn. He knows what he's going. He's coming back to the city. He's coming back to Houston. That's happening.
Starting point is 00:32:18 I mean, there's always a chance he's going to Phoenix, but it doesn't seem like as a strong possibility. I feel like they, I view it as they probably, they have to be comfortable going to next year without Chris Paul and with no replacement. The only way you can do that is if you're okay with the outcome where you have nobody to replace them. And that's kind of crazy, isn't it? That doesn't sound like something Matt Isbia would go ahead and co-sign and approve though. Like if you're going to be hella aggressive and trade for KD and then backhandedly lose someone who's not like one of the greatest point, he's not the greatest point out right now, but one of the greatest programs of all time.
Starting point is 00:32:51 and you'll be fine with letting Cameron Payne cook. It's like, dude, what are we doing at this point? Why even trade for KD if you're good? It doesn't make sense to trade for Katie if you just plan on letting CP3 go and having Cameron Payne rock. Like you're, I promise you. Campaign is not going to be rocking like that.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I hope not. He's not. What this shows me, though, is not only that they are like, they're done with Chris Paul because of the finances. DeAndre, is out of there he is the biggest he's the biggest asset that they have and i think that they i think phoenix understands that they need they need a point guard and you saw in last playoffs they were able to get a little bit more out of jock landau that they were able then they were
Starting point is 00:33:39 able to get out of uh out of dandre aton you go ahead you trade aton you get yourself a point guard back that can actually play and actually stay healthy and then you will find replacements and filler guys at the center position and just trying to fill out that that's like who though i think it's also it's important to have a point guard but i think it's also important they have a big man too and i feel like that's very it's easier for us to say like find another point guard and find another big bismac bionbo was given the minutes but bismac bionbo a couple years ago was given the minutes because they had a really effective chris paul leading it and it's really easy when you have that point guard there but if you don't have chris ball it's a lot harder to just like
Starting point is 00:34:18 find filler bigs and you're going to need a big when you have katy and devon booker as your best players because that's not the pillars of a strong defense there i mean yes but if you have but if you have katy and booker dandre aton is useless if you don't have a point guard there he's third he's third on like the offensive depth chart right there and it's not if you are running post-ups for dionre aton and he's not like a he's not a great passer out of out of the double team if he starts getting going so i don't trust him to find to find to find to find find book. I don't trust him to find KD. I don't trust him to create offense for himself like that. He he's been at his best in in Phoenix and partially because like just Phoenix took off around this
Starting point is 00:35:00 time. But when him and Chris Paul are running that that pick and roll, that's when he's been at his best. If you take his number, if you take the number one thing away from him, I don't know what he's going to be. And it's kind of the same situation that, um, that you're talking about with Chris Paul because DeAndre Aiton is also making too much money for what I'm asking him to do. So I'd rather pay somebody $30 million because their role is probably a little bit more valuable than what DeAndre Aiton is right now. He's too talented to be the third option to be getting that much money to just be eh. So he has to, he has to go.
Starting point is 00:35:41 What does that look like though? is it is I don't know what route you can go that you end up with a decent big to replace them plus a point guard. Marcus, you are a Phoenix son. DeAndre Aiden, welcome to the Boston Celtics.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Hal Horford, you are a Phoenix son. That would be kind of hard. Yeah, the whole problem is Robert Williams and DeAndre Aten is a war crime. Yeah, exactly it is. But Robert Williams Together, yuck. Yeah, I just don't know what deal is out there.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Like, do they want DeAngelo Russell? Hell no. I mean, listen, probably not, but if you're paying DeAngelo Russell, or not even if you are, if you are not paying DeAngelo Russell $47 million, it doesn't look too bad of an option. So I would consider it if I were them, I know he would. was trash in the playoffs and that and that always is yeah but guess what chris paul is also not there so like do you want somebody there or do you want cameron pain running your running your offense for 82 games for 82 games and two months now then you go then you find a way to get
Starting point is 00:37:00 fred van bleat i don't know if that's a deal that make that's a trading for the andre aden type thing maybe maybe that makes sense for both sides but they probably don't need to give up aiden since Fred Ventellit's a free agent it'll be a sign and trade they probably don't have to come up that big of an asset instead of they give something back but I would love Fred Van Fleet to be a Chris Paul replacement
Starting point is 00:37:18 I think that makes a lot of sense he'd also make a lot of sense as a D'Angelo Russell replacement but that's a conversation for another day The other side of this where do you want to see Chris Paul go if they end up waving him I'm mad because I know this ends up
Starting point is 00:37:34 with him on the Lakers Oh 100% it's up there I don't I don't like it But the very easy answer is get him to Boston Give those guys an actual point guard And let's see what they can do And if they can get him for they can get him for You know on the low
Starting point is 00:37:52 Don't have to pay him too much money Nothing will go crazy I think that's the best move for them You trade one of the guys either smart or Brogden or white Get some more assets back And you're cooking what is so if he gets cut is chris paul gonna sign for the veteran minimum that's so man not not for the minimum the legors can give him their non-tax middle-level exception so they can pay him a little more but a lot of teams contenders can't give him anything more than the minimum or maybe the bi-annual exception which is like fucking four million dollars so like is chris paul going to be okay with just being like a well because once you start being a minimum player is we need to go back yeah oh man apparently apparently the fourth and fifth grade kids are talking crazy
Starting point is 00:38:39 so he's going to have to do what he has to to shut them kids up so let me ask you this let me ask you this how much is Chris Fall worth oh that's a great question like is he worth
Starting point is 00:38:53 okay is worth a minimum contract right that's a good deal? 100% yes is he worth the mid-level exception which is about 10 million dollars yes is he worth 20 million dollars that's
Starting point is 00:39:03 tops 20 million is not a lot in March NBA like yeah that's tops though i can't do it i can't do it for a player who's consistently injured in his oldest shit that's tops well okay for the celtics yes for everybody else that number may may vary the celtics have a very very clear problem and it's that nobody knows how to dribble on that team and nobody knows how to pass anybody and chris paul can do that so like he fits what they need perfectly he's worth okay he's worth 50 million dollars to them right damn if we're but if we're talking about the rest of the
Starting point is 00:39:41 league that's on a varying scale well like the spurs get a lot of spurs fans want him to come in run that pick and roll in women yana and kind of give him that like veteran mentorship on a rebuilding team i wouldn't hate that honestly i'm not trying to see chris paul that is gross and no one wants to see him is it why let trade those cook man no one wants to see that like it's like cool and all that but bro i don't know chris paul Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson, Jeremy Sohan, and Victor Mubignana with Trey Jones as your sixth man. It's kind of cool. You're at that point, though, you're asking.
Starting point is 00:40:15 27 games, let's go. Yeah, and also, on top of 27 games, you're asking Chris Paul's daughter to go ahead and be homeschooled at that point, bro, because you're not winning no ring with them anytime too soon. You're supposed to reverse this damage. The point's not to win a ring with that, though. At that point, he'd be deciding that I'll take, because they're going to give him a lot of money, right? if they want him they can offer him like $25 million for two years because they have a fuck ton of cap space and it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:40:40 so they can just say hey come run this rebuilding team and help mentor womeniana to come be our next star if I was Chris Paul that'd be kind of cool I would run from that if I'm Chris Paul and I have basically everything that I need in my resume and my trophy case outside of an MVP which is not going to happen at this point but the only like attainable trophy is the larry o'brien trophy get me somewhere where i can
Starting point is 00:41:08 win that so if you are orlando if you picked in the lottery with your own pick this year do not call my phone don't don't i get that i get that but counterpoint those teams will give him two million dollars and the spurs will give him 50 does he need 50 million dollars 50 million more who doesn't need 50 million dollars that's a lot of money shit it is a lot of money but if i'm CP3 man like I don't know I gotta go get this ring I have to do it you see through it you see through it and also like there's a lot of teams who've had
Starting point is 00:41:41 of course like disappointing seasons and whatnot and if he was to ring chase let's say on a team like the Milwaukee Bucks it wouldn't look so shameful at all the Milwaukee Bucks be a little bit shameful apparently the Lakers and Clippers are the two teams
Starting point is 00:41:57 to keep an eye out on him on the Clippers the Clippers would be hilarious point guards bro that'll be hilarious where their whole team is old as fuck all their good players get injured all the time it would be so fitting yeah no one wants to see that door
Starting point is 00:42:11 Chris Paul needs to go if he makes two million from wherever take 500,000 of it put it on the NFL parlay get your money back that way right right make your money up somewhere else and then go get that ring that should be priority
Starting point is 00:42:25 number one for Chris Paul yeah go play with LeBron he'll put you in a movie he'll put you in space M3 and you'll be cooking exactly oh man he's gonna remake another old comedy he's in a LeBron and Spring Hill
Starting point is 00:42:38 are gonna remake like Are you there yet or something That is gross I'm just falling in Oh my god Uh There you did house party They're gonna do another cult classic soon
Starting point is 00:42:47 Oh my god Space Jam I could see Lebron is Dr. Doolittle Wow I didn't say he'd be a Dr. Doolittle He'd just be producing it No I can see LeBron as Dr. Doolittle that's crazy
Starting point is 00:43:03 yeah it's insane wow yeah the moral of the story is Chris Paul is so talk about time on time on time do we have to personally fund this movie to get made like I see it
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Starting point is 00:43:29 funded ASAP that's some nice embroidered logos for you guys on some soft blanks yeah exactly need it for i have a question for you guys though for two seconds can we talk about the whole kairi thing that randomly dropped the day of the finals i believe sure before the finals yeah what did i see on my screen seconds you're going to get exactly two seconds out of this as if you guys don't know there was a report that from shams as straight up said carrie irving has contacted lebron james about playing for the Dallas Mavericks. Not the Dallas Mavericks are trying to sign LeBron James. Not
Starting point is 00:44:06 LeBron James. Not LeBron James. That was the report. Not, not even that, right? Because all that means has contacted LeBron James, right? All that means is that Kyrie called his phone. We don't know if LeBron picked up, right? We don't, LeBron could have saw, saw Kyrie as, no, I'm not, I'm not, I don't have time for this right now. Like, of course, of course, Kyrie would, want uh would want lebron to be to be where he's at he's like listen i just got here i don't really feel like moving again can you come do me a solid like i was you know you know what i'm saying like i was i was wrong back there in cleveland but it's just like it's a non-story it really is slow day bro are you is what's telling me that people really don't care about
Starting point is 00:44:55 the NBA finals like that bro because i've never i don't remember the last time i've seen a more important. This is about nothing tweet in my life, or at least over the next, over the last like three years, bro. Yeah. Yeah, so obviously LeBron is not going to Dallas Mavericks. It doesn't make sense for numerous reasons. The Mavericks have no assets to trade for LeBron James. I would make the Lakers blink. LeBron, why would he want to go there? Why would the Mavs want him? Because LeBron, Kyrie, and Luca is a disgusting combination that makes no sense on paper in 2K in reality anywhere. No defense to be seen. No anything besides. passing is going I the question I have now is who leaked this and what is their
Starting point is 00:45:37 agenda I re leaked it just because he was bored he was probably still hurt that the LeBron didn't pick up his call and he just wanted to put some pressure he just wanted to see like hey like does everybody else think that like that this is a good idea or is it just me that's probably that has to be it you know probably I say it's probably the fake-ass story coming from Mike Malone so he can go ahead and brew his disgusting narrative well no one's talking about us hey no one's talking about us that's probably when did Mike Malone like why is he from New York in your impersonation that was a crazy accident I feel like it's either gotta be walking here so there's two options
Starting point is 00:46:23 either Kyrie leaked it and why I guess they stood our Brian Winhorse hats on real quick why would he do that? Maybe he wants to Maybe he plans to leave the Mavs and he leaked that to show that he tried to find a way to make it make sense that he tried to get the Mavs to get LeBron so he could stay
Starting point is 00:46:41 but it didn't work out so he exhausted options and now he has no other option went to leave for competitive reasons or or LeBron leaked it because he wants the Lakers to know that him and Kyrie
Starting point is 00:46:54 are talking about playing together in any way fashion needed so they better trade for him or he'll pick up that phone call and go to the Mavs. But if LeBron leaked it, it would have been a little bit more substantive than just Kyrie contacted LeBron. But that's what he wants you to think.
Starting point is 00:47:11 That's why, because he doesn't want it to be so overt. He wants the Lakers to be like, hmm, would LeBron go? I don't know, maybe. Maybe we've got to trade for this, Kyrie fella. This is the longest two seconds of my life. Let's move on. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Nobody gives a shit. Kari's thing with the math. because I'm going to give him the most money, and LeBron is going to be a Laker still. Yeah. Next. You guys want to talk about how Damien Lillard needs to learn how to shut up? Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I'm joking, but David Lillard is doing the same thing every year now. I'm not. I'm playing. But Damien Lillard is doing the same thing he does every year where he goes on all these radio shows and stuff, and everybody keeps asking him about if he's going to request a trade or not, and he just eats it up and tells people nonstop, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:58 state it's all about competitiveness and blah blah blah but now he's telling everybody that basically the he believes the trailblazers can make a competitive team mix here by trading their current assets and if not then they'll have to have a conversation about his future he's been saying it non-stop like three times in the past two weeks on three different shows i've seen so many options of potential trade place destinations saw oh he wouldn't like it to be in to be in boston off miami he won the finals he would not consider going over it's like Bro, no one asked, for real. People who are...
Starting point is 00:48:30 You go, I'm told him, hey, just ask me this question real quick. Bro, I'm glad you said this. He specified in the interview that he wants to go to Miami, but not if they win the championship. Just to let everybody know that he'll play for a team, but not if there's too much running from the grind. If it's too easy, you haven't wanted. And today, Chris Haynes reported,
Starting point is 00:48:48 Chris Haynes famously at Damien Lillard Mouthpiece, he reported that, under no circumstance, under no circumstance when Damien Lillard played for the Celtics. Why is this being put out there? Who gives a shit? Well, who gives a fuck if you play for this out? That's so random. No, it's just comical.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Damian Lillard wants, he wants his lore and his legacy to just be everything, everything that Kevin Garnett gave up in the second half of his career, Damien Lillard wants that so that he can be some type of martyr for like the old NBA
Starting point is 00:49:26 of like I'm the guy who went against the league when everybody was going towards super teams when everybody was trying to partner up with everybody I'm the guy who stood on principle and stayed here and he wants his respect but like but like y'all saying you're asking for respect so I can't give you respect you know what I think you know what I think
Starting point is 00:49:49 he wants that respect but he also wants to fucking leave the trailblazers he just doesn't want to be the one to ask for it so he loses that respect it almost he's just like nudging them to trade him by like deciding to just rebuild he wants him to do that really bad he just can't be the one to say it yeah exactly and i feel like there are a i think if it's going to happen then they're they would only almost be forced to do it because via the nba draft because if they end up getting like scoot henderson then like it's already in there and it's going to happen you know and you would have to You are a madman if you walk up to the Trailblazers front office and say,
Starting point is 00:50:30 hey, yo, trade this potential generational 19, 18, 18 year old dude for some mid-ass role player or some mid-ass, like star player Bradley Beale or Jaylon Brown or some crazy light. It's like, bro, what are you talking about, you know? Well, could you imagine you have to the Celtics turn Jaylon Brown into Scoot Henderson? Oh, that would be so beautiful. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, man, but basically Damien Lillard just. One, I guess we can say it's not his fault because people keep asking him about it,
Starting point is 00:50:59 but he doesn't have to give interesting answers every time. He's answering in a clearly calculated way to try to, however, whatever agenda he has where he's trying to move, he's doing it through these interviews, and it's annoying as hell because he won't stop. See, he's doing the same thing that, like, LeBron's been doing for years now, except, like, LeBron's about that shit, and he will leave, and no one ever believes Damilud.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And so we just full a cap all and every time. Yeah, man. I don't care about it was probably the last time we talked about Damien Lidd rumors until he finally is close to being traded You know what rumors we should talk about? What? Which ones? James Harden
Starting point is 00:51:35 We'll give this another two seconds So we can move on TikTok time But yeah It was reported by I think Shams yesterday That James Hardin is currently torn Between return to Houston and staying with the 76ers Listen man I don't even want to talk about this now we're talking about it
Starting point is 00:51:51 I don't fucking care He can go back to the Houston Do you think James Hart is not moving the needle regardless of wherever he goes? No. No. Damn. Not in these two teams. He's not moving in off of these two teams.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I hope it goes to Houston just to accelerate the Joelle and B trade request that's coming inevitably. Ooh. That's a hard part. That's a hard episode. James Hardin has been since Christmas, the happiest day of the year, right? It got leaked out of James Hardin's camp that he said, I'm unhappy here. I want to go back to Houston. like he he doesn't he doesn't want to be in philly after the last two years i don't think that
Starting point is 00:52:31 they really want him there either he took less money and was kind of like upset he was kind of upset that nobody lauded him for taking um for taking less money let the media know that and i think at this point i think at this point james hardin is just going to say like i'm going to go get my x amount of dollars I already gave up 15 million. I'm going to go have fun. And I'm going to play on a team that needs a point guard and that needs scoring and that needs veteran leadership. And I'll go ahead and be all those things in a city where, like, the Rockets don't really matter like that. And they're not getting Wembe.
Starting point is 00:53:11 So, like, I don't, I don't know. James Hardin, I'm rambling. But James Hardin, like Isaac said, does not move the needle for either of these two teams. And so for him, this is kind of him recognizing that. And so he just, he just wants to have fun. So he's going to go back to Houston. That's the best way to put it if he does. Valid.
Starting point is 00:53:32 You're not going to win championship. Your best days are behind you. Go vibe out in Houston and like your life. Yeah, that's a tough pill to swallow, though. Like, you gave up so much money so they can go ahead and get scraps and sign your guys, Daniel House and PJ coverage and all that. I mean, $15 million. How much way was it?
Starting point is 00:53:50 Fifteen. 15 11 million dollars that's some bread that's some bread never mind that's a good amount of money yeah but also they didn't like they didn't lose because like the guys that they brought in we talked daniel house was trash all year he got right in play exactly they launched an investigation over daniel house he didn't play uh man i don't care about james hardin right now let's move on take a lot time let's do it let's it's time to get these talks off. As always, we're going to start with the draft. This time, we're going to do a draft with only players who want three rings or more. I told you guys before the show how this is going
Starting point is 00:54:33 to play out, and I'm a thousand percent confident. I've been thinking about it for the last hour, who my first pick is going to be. I'm not, I'm not, I don't know. Okay, we'll see. First pick is Donovan, then Mo, then me. Yeah, you guys know what's up. Yeah. Let's draft Emmy lineups with only players who have won three rings or more let's do you got Donovan I'm gonna start off with some versatility give me LeBron James Boo
Starting point is 00:54:59 You got LeBron? Damn, I gotta pick that Give me, give me that MJ dude God It's a little small little bit of MJ Yeah I guess I'll just have MJ whatever The horror Obviously I got Steph Curry Yep
Starting point is 00:55:17 Give me Shaq And after that, I have Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Okay Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Okay That's nice Okay
Starting point is 00:55:30 Give me the best center ever And maybe the best point guard ever I don't know Okay, cool I like that Go ahead And give me Tim Duncan
Starting point is 00:55:42 Okay Okay I was just I was just shocked I didn't think that Shaq was going to be here for me give me shack wow okay and then I mean it's Tim Duncan and Karim it's like
Starting point is 00:55:58 no I know I just I thought Shaq was gonna go earlier so that's that's fantastic um hmm oh yeah give me Shaq give me Kobe damn you're LaRashack and Kobe fuck okay cool yeah that's fuck
Starting point is 00:56:14 Okay This is over Go ahead and give me Is Larry Burr's on the board? Yeah Give me Larry Bird Okay Damn
Starting point is 00:56:24 I hate this draft I should have I should have Yeah Oh this draft sucks I got You know what Oh now
Starting point is 00:56:33 I'll wait for that This is tough Okay Give me Dwayne Wade That's cool That's good Oh I'm another pick Yeah
Starting point is 00:56:43 Dwayne Wade Then for my three Give me Scotty Pippin Nice Solid solid Nice okay So I got MJ Laybird and Tim Duncan
Starting point is 00:56:53 Cool so Sheesh I need a Yeah I need two guards So for the sake of spacing Go ahead and give me Clay Thompson You suck
Starting point is 00:57:10 You suck Yeah I should have been Clayton to assemble the Warriors. Yeah. Okay. That kind of changes the strategy a little bit. But we're all about to win. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Huh? You're about to win. This is ridiculous. You're about the craziest team ever. I know. Okay. Give me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:31 We'll do it. Give me Magic Johnson. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And then I need a four. I need a four to close this out. uh all right yeah give me give me dennis robin
Starting point is 00:57:46 this man donovan built the best team you can imagine this is ridiculous yeah oh my god okay no spacing in sight but ridiculous talent yeah i'm just gonna show some love to one of the greatest french players of all time tony parker
Starting point is 00:58:01 one of the most underrated one of the most underrated bid range shooters i need that on my team okay you know what give me listen donovan has the most talent I'm going to build the best chemistry. Give me Draymond Green to parent, Steph Curry. Cool.
Starting point is 00:58:17 You're still getting ran with him on a court, but go ahead. That's it. That's a draft. That was a quick one. Yeah. So I have, Steph Curry. We did our research. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I have Steph Curry, Dwayne Wade, Scotty Pippen, Draymond, Green, Kareem. I got Tony Parker. Yeah, I got Tony Parker. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird. Hold on, no, no, no, I'm missing someone. I got Tony Parker. Then I have Michael Jordan, Larry Berg, Tim Duncan. I think I have Tim Duncan at the five.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And Clay Thompson. Yeah, Clay Thompson, there we go. I don't know why I forgot that. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. I have Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, LeBron, Dennis Rodman, and Shaq.
Starting point is 00:59:05 That's laughable. I got this one. Yeah, you put this team on 2K. We're getting blown by 40, Isaac. Yeah, the first pick was definitely key in this one. Yeah, for so. Really, it was an instant win, because there was like seven really great players,
Starting point is 00:59:20 and you get three of them. I can't believe we just let Madge Johnson go like that. You're going to yell at it. You let Matt Johnson go like that. I am, Steph Curry. Oh, yeah. I don't do anything wrong. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Next thing we're going to do, as always, following the draft, we're going to do a tier list. Okay. This time we're going to do a tier list of NBA rivalries. This will be interesting. Let's get into it. I'm excited for this one.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Let's put these NBA rivalries into a tier list. First off, classic Celtics versus Lakers. S tier. S tier. The NBA was built off of this. Yeah. One of the best robberies in sports. This is the recipes.
Starting point is 01:00:01 This is the recipes. Without this rivalry, NBA wouldn't be the same as it is today. Shit would be on tape delay. It's crazy. Easy. You got Yankees versus Red Sox And then probably Lakers versus Celtics Like the top three rivalries in sports
Starting point is 01:00:18 Next up Steph Curry versus LeBron James That's an A tier It's kind of B tier B Because I don't think A lot of finals man I don't think Steph well
Starting point is 01:00:30 Steph ran through them after the Once they got KD Once they got KD The rivalry kind of like fizzled out And that's the point this would be S tier But because KD messed it up It's got to be A tier
Starting point is 01:00:43 But if KD never came It would have been one of the greatest rivalries ever But it's also a B tier Because They don't like One Steph Curry doesn't care about He does not care about LeBron
Starting point is 01:00:54 At all LeBron cares about Steph Steff does not care about LeB And then two Even in all-time conversations Steph Curry is nowhere near LeBron James all time Yeah
Starting point is 01:01:04 So like play to play to play B is not fair to him It was classic Just because of what happened in 2016, it has to be 18, because we're never seeing anything like that before. We're never seen anything like that again. He got swept.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Fine, we'll go, B. All right, B. Next up we have Shaq v. Kobe. Shack versus Kobe. Oh, man. This is tough to right. Friends turn enemies is a pretty sick rivalry dynamic.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It's kind of a. This is an A-2. Yeah, this is such a good rivalry. This is such a great rivalry that years later, they had to have a sit-down interview where they talked about it and made reconciliations for having such an intense rivalry. They were rivals as teammates. They were winning championships together, still hating each other.
Starting point is 01:01:56 They three-peded together and then went to try, and then went to see who can get the fourth ring faster. It's great. This got a BS. It's Shakespearean. art that's s great next up we have
Starting point is 01:02:13 CP3 and winning a ring damn that's so sameless bro has to be s this man who back in 2020 said that he had a addiction to going to the finals congratulations my brother
Starting point is 01:02:26 you beat it because you ain't never going back you just got waves god it's hard to call this a rivalry when one side has won it for 18 years in a row but it's such a harassment and so much
Starting point is 01:02:40 extreme not winning It's so much extreme not winning It's got to be a year Yeah you have to respect the commitment to it bro The consistency is outrageous What This is crazy What's the next one
Starting point is 01:02:57 Next one we have Celtics versus heat In the last five years This is a tier for real This is solid bro This is a tier they've met in the conference finals like five times over the last 10 years they are this is great this is great so they actually have jason tater versus jimmy butler is legitimately a really cool rivalry
Starting point is 01:03:18 these days yeah you're right so what is this is the a probably b it doesn't have the all time doesn't have the all-time ramifications so it can't be super high but it's a good rivalry i'm saying it is because i'm saying a i'm saying a because a lot of times when they've played a trip to the finals has been on the line true A, it's fine What do you think, Mo? I really, I think it's a B tier Because even though it's like amazing
Starting point is 01:03:44 It's not like It's not It's not poster boy worthy, you know? You're right It's not headlining NBA versus rings So it can be B. Yeah, B for sure Back to back
Starting point is 01:03:57 Back to back game sevens In the Eastern Conference finals What are we talking about? We're deciding who's going to be the loser In the finals, whatever. Yeah, it's not moving me late. that it's all the trip in all right next thing we got we're gonna do a video where we talk about which NBA player would you rather let date your daughter who I'm scared
Starting point is 01:04:19 hey man take my daughter to the baseball players please this is gonna be great all right so which NBA player would you rather let date your daughter this is gonna be crazy yeah Kyrie Irving or Kyle Kuzma Give me, Kyrie. What? Coos? The Instagram boy? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:04:44 What are you talking about? You said Coos? Coos is out here nearly about to be wiped up with Winnie Harlow. He's been treating her well. You want your daughter with a guy who thinks that the earth is flat? Coos got blonde hair, bro, and he'd be out here for real. No, I don't want Coos. He's an L.A. boy.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Are you kidding me? No. If my daughter's with Kyrie, I had to leave. know that she's going to be giving in some capacity. She may be a little dumb. You're a terrible father. You're a terrible father.
Starting point is 01:05:15 What are you talking about? If you compare Kyrie Irving's insane shenanigans to Calcusma dressing funny? Yeah. What are you talking about? You need Kyrie the fuck away from my daughter. Yeah, no, Kyrie, bro. Get Kyrie Err.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I need that. I'll accept that man in my house. Your daughter's going to be radicalized. Like, what are we talking about here? It's cool. My daughter will be one with herself, and I'm happy with that. She will not sell her soul like Kyle Kuzma. I'm good on it.
Starting point is 01:05:45 What is he done to sell his soul? Why am I so mad about this? You're wrong. Look, I do not understand that logic, and I'm seriously fearful for your future family, Donovan. All Kyle Kuzma does, all Kyle Kuzma does is tweet corny shit and wear Rick Owens. He's not that bad. You're terrible Next up
Starting point is 01:06:08 You're crazy No, I'm sorry I don't know what it is about clues But I just can't do it with him There next up Duncan Robinson versus Austin Reeves Give me Duncan Robinson
Starting point is 01:06:20 He's gonna have my daughter right He's gonna, when I say give my Get my daughter home at 8 He's gonna have her at home by 630 I need Duncan Robinson Yeah I need Duncan Robinson Listen, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:32 He's podcast guy. He's straight up with his basketball skills. Duncan, yeah. He's he's hella studious. He has a passion side project in podcasting. He might have to go, Duncan. Yeah, bro. He don't complain.
Starting point is 01:06:48 None of that, bro. He's just, yes, sir, yes, sir, and he does it, bro. Awesome he's in L.A. He might be a little wild and a low. We really, we really don't know with Lakers players. Fact. Duncan Robinson has that heat culture in him. He's respectful.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Oh, he's a grinder, yeah, he's for real. Yeah, exactly. I feel like Austin Reeves is low-key a demon, bro. Especially with what he did over the playoffs, bro, saying, I am him and all that stuff. Get that man away from my daughter, bro. He likes that. He has too much white boy rage. He'd be screaming a little too hard for me.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Yeah, yeah, exactly, bro. I'm good on that. Seems like a good kid, but get away from me. Next up. Kauai Leonard versus Damien Lillard. Dane. we just we just talked about it but dame is dame's loyalty off the charts off the charts so i will take dame lillard over kawai lennard i don't know dame lillard might be a little too like scarily loyal he might be a little obsessive he's a little
Starting point is 01:07:47 toxicly yeah yeah exactly like if i know my girl if i know my daughter will be much better off without you then i might have to say kawai linder bro because he ain't going to say too much if you cool then you cool if you're not that he's going to leave I trust my daughter I want my daughter to be able to talk to her partner
Starting point is 01:08:03 and Kawhi Leonard says no words okay I don't know Damien Lillard is like he might have Stockholm syndrome with something
Starting point is 01:08:12 what if my daughter is just like a bad vibe but she's not good for Lillard Lillard just will never leave it might be in his best interest to stay away yeah exactly
Starting point is 01:08:18 see Isaac is for the team he has a broad vision Donovan you're selfish now next up Zion Williamson versus jaw morant crazy
Starting point is 01:08:32 low key low key hear me out I think I'm going John Morant at least I know my daughter will be protected okay Zion Williamson is out here
Starting point is 01:08:48 he's a wild boy with wild interest that's all I'll say keep him away from my daughter can't dress no drip look leave leave the behavior out of it leave the
Starting point is 01:09:00 leave the multiple baby mama's out of it his drip is so bad I don't want him in my house he'll embarrass me but hear me out if he is sliding down the APs to the family then I might have to have a conversation I might have to have a conversation
Starting point is 01:09:16 but I'll see John and Ratt will love your daughter so much he'll fight a teenager and a mall for her that's commitment as what I'm saying she's protected He will beat a tween's ass for her She will be safe
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah Yeah They're both wild boys though They're both wild boys though They're both wild boys Yeah you're right Give me jaw I need jaw
Starting point is 01:09:40 I need jaw I need job I need job Zion might never be there Half the time For my daughter bro anyways He's so absent He's gonna be an absent father
Starting point is 01:09:49 If my daughter gets pregnant Bro He's gonna just know where to be seen He's like what's going on I'm just gonna start generational trauma Yeah, bro That's hilarious God
Starting point is 01:10:05 You're so an inch with that Like when in your brain made you think This will be a good TikTok I thought of it and I was like Engagements Yeah Oh god I have a demon on my shoulder
Starting point is 01:10:22 Yeah Nicole Yokic versus Yonis onto the Coupo. Oh, you can't lose with this. They're both great guys, but I might have to go Yonis because Yonkish, he'd be gone for real. He has no motion. He has no. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Listen, Janus, he might love his horses more than your daughter. Yeah. Johnus, Janus, dang it, listen. Janus is kind of freaky on the timeline. That's all I'm going to say, right? You're a little too, you're a little too freaky out in public. big for me right i'm not trying to see all that but give me give me yeah
Starting point is 01:11:01 yonnes has a little yonis is the vibes of someone who didn't have a lot of girls growing up so once he gets married he has to like talk about it a lot on twitter there might be a red flag you know what i'm not colioch wearing his wedding ring around his shoelace is just tie me because that's the most wholesome thing i've seen in the last i don't know how many years what a guy yeah let's take your daughter horseback riding she'll be touring europe with finding all the taste of all the best food she's gonna be in serbia like she's not going to be in It's not going to be a Milan.
Starting point is 01:11:30 She's going to be on a farm in Eastern Europe, man. She's going to be lost. And you know what? You got to remember, though, his brothers, affiliated. I'm going to talk about protection. I was on the truth. That's true. She's right everywhere.
Starting point is 01:11:43 That's true. Ten boys are bulletproof, bro. And on top of that, Nicole Yolkin. She can move through the Balkans with ease. Nicola Yolkuts be moving with hella passionate. He'd be kissing his teammates, bro. And I love that. that. So, give me him, bro. I need him next to my daughter at all times. He's going off the rails.
Starting point is 01:12:03 What are we talking about? What are we talking about? He gets in his teammates on the side of the cheek. Did you see that video where he saw Monta Morris? Bro, he looked like he saw Jesus on the court. His mouth dropped. He was like, oh my God, bro, it's Monta Morris. Relax. I need that wholesomeness. This is amazing. This is going to be the best TikTok ever. next one my fucking eyes
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Starting point is 01:12:56 Tyler Hero or Lamello Ball Oh man I don't like either My daughter can stay single I've seen what the ball boys do To their baby mothers I don't like it Yeah listen they're both NBA fuck boys
Starting point is 01:13:12 But man keep Tyler Hero the fuck away from my daughter Yeah this is true Might give me a lamello Because like bro got a bag And he's gonna be generational But nah Give me away from Tyler Hero Yeah
Starting point is 01:13:24 Yeah Something about the way Something about the way Tyler Hero carries himself. I don't like his face. Just keep back. I don't want to look at him at the dinner table. You don't want to see that smirk? You kidding me?
Starting point is 01:13:35 God, no. He's in a walk in here with his black accent, pretending he's from the hood when he's from Wisconsin. Keep him away from me. Lamella wins by default. Yeah, easy. Oh, my God. Not hilarious.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Okay, we've got two more videos left. First, let's change the vibe real quick, and we'll do a more analytically based one. Calm down Before we get to another funny one This next What we're going to do is We're going to name some teams
Starting point is 01:14:01 And we've got to decide Who the best player In their team's history is All right Let's get the vibes back down To the guys I'm sorry We literally just talked about
Starting point is 01:14:10 Backhanding NBA players Like Guys Oh my god Okay Wow Yeah but it's not the hero He doesn't count
Starting point is 01:14:21 Wow If there's any NBA player you can disrespect, it's Tyler Hero. Oh, my God, right. Tyler, I'm actually a fan. Don't take it to heart. Who is the best NBA player in this team's history? First off, the Lakers. Like...
Starting point is 01:14:40 Actually, remember you phrase that. Who is the greatest NBA player in this team's history? The Lakers. I guess greatest would be LeBron. Nah. Are we talking about, like, the greatest Laker or, like, the greatest player to ever play for the Lakers? You tell me.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Let's just say the greatest Laker. Okay, the greatest Laker. What they meant to this organization and fans? It's Kobe. Got to be Kobe Bryant, right? It's Kobe or Magic, one of those two. No, I'm fine with either. I might lean Kobe, though.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah, Kobe, I think Kobe has the extended success, multiple generations of championship contenders, multiple generations of fans that see him as their icon. It's got to be Kobe. Yeah, for sure, Kobe. So my mom grew up on Kobe and so did I. crazy. Oh, that's nuts.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Yeah, he has, he's affected generations and not only, not only generations worldwide. I don't see people walking Magic Johnson jerseys in Beijing, bro. It doesn't happen. That's a crazy parameter. Our next one, the Oklahoma City Thunder. Kevin Durant. Oh, sorry. Is it a kid?
Starting point is 01:15:46 It might be Russell Westbrook. Oh, oh, after that. We're talking about greatest thunder. Yeah, no, it's Russell Westbrook. After how KD did that team? Yeah, it's Russell. They accomplished the same amount of things in the jerseys. Both won an MVP.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Both made the finals. One stayed and one didn't. If he didn't have that 2017 MVP, then it would be KD. But that MVP season was just phenomenal. One to none. A heartwarming story. And I meant so much from the team having him win it after KD left and abandoned them. Easily, Russell Westbrook.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Yeah, exactly. Easily. Don't even think twice about it. The Atlanta Hawks. oh that's dominique wilkins yeah this is like this is very shame it's like a bleakless pistol pete it's obviously dominique yeah number two and i don't know bro it's like pistol is it all right don't do that now let's relax okay let's relax all right i'm not picking the man who's scared of free throws of balls coming at him catching rebounds oh pause
Starting point is 01:16:53 Horford, no. No, it's probably like, it's probably like Pistol Pete or something like that. Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, it's steep. The Phoenix Suns. I don't want to say Steve Nash for some reason. It's, well, I mean, it's either Steve Nash and Charles Barkley.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Yeah, I think it's Charles Barkley. I don't know. Steve Nash won two MVPs there. Yeah. He never got to a finals and Charles got an MVP. Yeah. Okay, and Charles is a better player there. better career, I think.
Starting point is 01:17:24 We can go, Charles. Charles, there we go. He probably had a longer prime with the Suns than Stephen Ashley, too, right? No, no, no. I mean, well, what the sense? I don't know. This one was actually really hard. I think I would take Charles, though.
Starting point is 01:17:42 I'm taking Charles. I think the fact that Chuck got him to a finals, I think that's huge. Okay, yeah. And also looking, one's a better player, too. Looking back at it to, no one questions anything about Charles Barkley's career. and when it comes to Steve Nash there's a lot of questions about one of those MVP's both of those MVP's
Starting point is 01:18:00 and we're talking to be honest Charles cool the Milwaukee bucks that's Kareem yeah Kareem can get that for now
Starting point is 01:18:11 yes I'm sure I'm sure it's Kareem I mean Kare's a way better player but like Ghanis brought him the chip he's the loyal stars probably not going to leave Kareem did leave
Starting point is 01:18:22 Karim got Kareem got their first chip in his like second year It was either year two or year three And he got the chip That's insane He's circlinging We default to the better player
Starting point is 01:18:35 Okay I'm fine with Kareem Yeah Give it two years though It's gonna be honest Yeah but when it's all set and done When Yannis is there for 15 years I think it'll be him too If he can win some more
Starting point is 01:18:45 He doesn't even have to It's not like Kareem racked up in Milwaukee Now he bet he better win some chips okay the Boston Celtics Larry Bird Larry Bird yeah that's
Starting point is 01:19:01 it's not Bill Russell I think Larry Bert for Boston's sake Larry Bird minimizes what a Celtic is okay Larry Bird is you got people watching you right now Donovan
Starting point is 01:19:15 Larry Bird is their guy bro come on but Russell want 11 chips for a city it has to be Bill Russell In that era too Oh man It might be real
Starting point is 01:19:26 But I think I have to get I think to be honest I really want to lean Larry Bird If you think of Celtics You think of Larry Bird immediately Well That's crazy I know but like
Starting point is 01:19:38 It's Larry Yeah Yeah I guess more people In the listen Listen In the time they played One was probably loved
Starting point is 01:19:46 By more of Bostonians More than the other Oh god I want to say Bill But I think it's honestly Larry Okay, you can't be mad at it We got one more video
Starting point is 01:19:58 Mo I think you have one about NBA bars for us Yes So for us Yeah so In this TikTok We're gonna be
Starting point is 01:20:06 Rating these Disrespectful NBA bars Rate these NBA rap lyrics From 1 to 10 6 male like Lou World Two girls And they get along Like I'm Lou Will
Starting point is 01:20:16 Oh This is a strong Rap lyric This is a strong NBA lyric back in that time this was so hard this took IG captions by storm 100% I think this this is like an 8
Starting point is 01:20:30 it's like it's like it's like it's like a 8 you could probably I was thinking 9 9 I would say 8 okay we go 8 because it's gonna be there's gonna be harder to come you you gotta know you also have to know the story of Louer it's like it's pretty like it's pretty obvious based on what the lyric is saying but like you still gotta know what's going on
Starting point is 01:20:48 okay we'll go eight because it doesn't appeal to the casual audience all right yeah I think eight is solid eight is solid next one
Starting point is 01:20:58 let's do this one yeah all right he got muscles for no reason Eric Bledso that's the most random shot ever
Starting point is 01:21:06 bro who said that Eric Bly said that sad a baby love it love that that's a nine that's a nine
Starting point is 01:21:15 I got damn there Eric Blitz that's just funny they were called Eric Blitz baby brawn just because he had broad shoulders I mean it's like wrong one bit oh bro yeah
Starting point is 01:21:24 who created that who where did that come from who who decided that the pre-draft process I don't know jail them oh my god okay no that's hilarious but being
Starting point is 01:21:36 being big for no reason is like an all-time insult I love it oh bro that should have me cried all right fourth quarter yelling what to fuck buttomming
Starting point is 01:21:46 instant classic this was a freestyle too this is not an official song that has to be an 11 all time that's 11 that's 11 rest of song mid is fuck but this bar perfect he saved it that's you i've never seen the most random NBA player like nick matum catch this type of strain and it's so accurate too that's the scary part it was so genuine you see in his face is why the fuck Batoon in Oh my God Yeah that shit was crazy Okay
Starting point is 01:22:22 All right Holes get fucked and sent home early Just like the clippers Oh God Better get 10 out of 10 10
Starting point is 01:22:35 10 out of 10 Anytime we can Disre Anytime we can disrespect The Clippers I'm here for it 10 out of 10 Set home early is crazy
Starting point is 01:22:50 Freddy gives Disrespectful once again. That's what he's known for Facts All right Old dudes unreliable like Dero's knees This was mean This is a shot Deros is nice What did he do? Who said this?
Starting point is 01:23:09 Corday back when he was YBN An ass No I can't, I can't get behind this. This is a four. It's a good bar, but it hurts. What is mean? I go six.
Starting point is 01:23:27 All right, cool. What about this one? Get no playing time, Kendrick Perkins. This is from Cuevo himself, bro. I love it. It's stuck the Clippers one. Anytime we can slander Kendrick Perkins, I'm here for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Nine. Yeah, I think it's a damn near It's a 10 because it didn't even First things first It didn't even sound right when he said it It was not a good bar But it's hate and I'm here for hate This is a 10
Starting point is 01:23:54 And the best part is Not of Cueva's lyrics make sense They're just so disconnected From the previous lyric So it's just random Random Kendrick Perkins hate I love it All right
Starting point is 01:24:04 A broke 38 in a shoe funny Like Sean Marion Who said this? This is Dude, mayhem, Lauren. Who is that? I have no idea who it is, but it is so hard. It would have been, this would have been a 10 out of 10,
Starting point is 01:24:24 but I have no idea who this is. So for clout purposes, 9 out of 10. Yeah. I love that. That's a good, like, NBA deep cut. Talking about Sean Marion's shooting form. You know a ball for real. It's a nine.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Fooked her thought with a headband on, Jared Dudley. This is an ugly bar to be. It's so mean So many of these bars Are just random lyric Random NBA player It don't even make sense Jared Dudley where the headband
Starting point is 01:24:57 Is an incredible deep cut 10 out of 10 I love this We're just saying names for visuals Oh my goodness This is this 10 out of 10 though it's funny It's funny How did Jared Dudley feel watching this bro? What is he supposed to say to that?
Starting point is 01:25:13 Yeah, because he didn't get cloud on you just Jared doesn't be wearing headbands That's it That's the bar I can't end this I can't end this
Starting point is 01:25:25 TikTok session Without throwing in the classic This is not a classic But I can't end it Without throwing in baby tron Bro Treat his dumb ass like Dremont
Starting point is 01:25:33 I'm gonna give me a second real quick Treat his dumb ass Okay let me get it hurt All right Treat his dumb ass like Dremont can't avoid the tech he is masterful when it comes to putting these bars together
Starting point is 01:25:49 that's actually good shout up baby try yeah that's a legitimately good bar can't avoid the tech that's a good bar yeah that's hard that's easy to not this one isn't just funny this is like lyricism this is serious
Starting point is 01:26:03 I know this kind of kind of has me fearful this man respects his craft he's not just throwing names in there yeah exactly when he throws out when he throws out these NBA players names he does it with intent this shit means something to him exactly Hall of Fame his ass easily actually Hall of Fame his ass when he comes to dropping dropping NBA names
Starting point is 01:26:25 you're worthless fellow you ain't no athlete you Sean Bradley who is Sean Bradley is that a center disrespect yeah yes yeah Sean Bradley's a seven foot four guy that got dunked on a lot damn yeah yeah yeah and This, in this song here, Jay Z snapped, and he snapped on so many people, bro. Yeah, this one's mean. Sean Bradley is known for getting dunked on a lot, despite being huge. No, but for that so much that people are saying he's not athletic. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:26:55 That's a good bar. Yeah. What is this? Eight and a half, nine? I think this has. It's not a 10. I want to say 10 because a song is a 10, and also this bar was smooth, too, with how he said it has to be 10. I said, this is a 7.
Starting point is 01:27:10 This is cool. Seven? Yeah, that's cool. All right. All hell is going to hate you, Isaac. They go hate you. Well, Old Head's don't watch this.
Starting point is 01:27:22 We're good. Yeah, and I think that is it. Nice. That's the episode. If you're still here, drop us a like, subscribe, check out the merch shop.
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