The Deep 3 Podcast - These Trades Changed The NBA FOREVER! | Ep. 23

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

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Today's a very special episode. Today was the NBA trade deadline, and it was one of the craziest deadlines in recent memory, probably the craziest of the last 10 years. So today, we're going to talk about all of that. Every trade that went down, or at least the important ones. Donovan, where did we start? Steve McIlu, man. It's crazy.

Bro, we obviously start with Kevin Durant. I was asleep whenever this happened. So, like, I woke up, I woke up. Mo was the only one out of us two that was actually up. And so I wake up with five texts from Mo. And he's like, we have to pod right now. It's an emergency. Let's go.

So like, that's clearly like the biggest domino that we have to talk about. Hey, I dedicate my life to this podcast. I was working in graveyard hours to make you sure we do. We do follow us on Twitter,

follow us on IG in my bag. And facts. I go ahead and I was watching whatever game was on. I go to bed. And then all of a sudden it's like 1 a.m. Or 1.20 a.m. I'm on Twitter. I'm like, the fuck is going on.

I see Katie's to the Suns. Bro, I get out of my fucking bed half naked, watch TV in the living room as if, like, the USA was getting an atomic bomb. I was so close to TV, like, five minutes ago. No, listen, it was an NBA. It was a woge bomb, as they would say.

It was an insane bomb. For those who don't know, for those who don't know, Kevin Durant, the trade that happened in the middle of the night, dead night, everyone was sleeping. The Suns received Kevin Durant and T.J. Warren, and the Nets receive McCall Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jay Crowder,

four first round picks and a pick swap. Yeah, 228 pickswop. Hull. Where do we begin? How do you guys feel about it from the Sun's perspective receiving KD? You win.

For the Suns, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's as simple as the plane. You get Kevin Durant and you didn't have to give up DeAndre Aiton and now you have kind of just like

big three and a half to go. A half. Listen, whoever is the half. If it's Aitin, if it's Chris Paul, they have three and a half stars on that team. It's three combined.

Exactly. So. Bro. So whatever you have there, and you get Kevin Wright, who's playing like an MVP whenever he was healthy. You have Devin Booker who's playing outstanding whenever he was healthy. And you instantly get vaulted to the top of the conference in terms of expectations. You should be in the West of Conference finals. And yeah, I think that's kind of like the best case scenario for those.

What do you think, Mo? Shout out to their goddamn owner who's been in charge for like two and a half, three days. and he's like, I want Kevin Durant, give me Kevin Durant, and it happened. He wasted no time. It was his name. He's the man. And it's like right when everyone thought that their window was ending, when the window was closing, that's when they ride, I don't want to say rise back top to the West. But in my mind, they probably have like, yeah.

Yeah, like they probably, they might have the best starting five in the Western Conference. Maybe I don't fucking know. We don't have to say, might. They clearly do it. They did that at Kevin Durant. Like, what are we talking about? When they were healthy, they were the two seed, and they added Kevin Durant. Yeah, it's beautiful.

And they have DeAndre Aden, and something that I kind of wanted them to do was like, maybe she'd go ahead and trade DeAndre Aten for like some death or whatever, some death or whatever. But regardless of the fact, they are fantastic and they're taking care of not only for the next for now, but the next four years you have Kevin Durant and Devin. Yeah. That is insane. And it's interesting, like, obviously talent-wise, his team is absolutely stacked,

but he just, he fits so well with how they play. As you know for past couple years, they're just the mid-range gods. They take the least amount of threes and the least amount of rim shots in the NBA and somehow have the top offense in the league every year when they're healthy. And now they have Kevin Durant. We've plotted Bridges a lot in the past two years because he's kind of coming to his own as a secondary ball handler. He can catch, it's not just 3-Indee anymore.

He can catch it from a three-point line, run into a side pick and roll, do a little bit, hit these mid-range jumpers. Imagine those plays, Devin Booker, DeAndreggen pick and roll. They kick it out to the wing. But this time instead of McCall Bridges attacking, it's Kevin Dore. Rants Like the fit is so perfect Pick your poison

It's crazy You got Katie on the elbow and 10 D book like I couldn't This is just absurd It's fire It's fire too Because now you don't have You don't have to rely on Chris Paul

Who's clearly like declined And Chris Paul's averaging Less than 14 points a game You now don't have to rely on him To pick up the slack and be the secondary score and he can really really just focus on getting all the assist his heart desires. He can

pass as much as he wants. He can be the Florida General and I promise you Devon Book and Kevin Durant will not be mad that they have to take 25 mid-range shot tonight. Like they're going to be just fine. So it'll be ecstatic. Yeah, they're good. So a question I have for y'all do you think that the best team in the West now?

No. I still know. Who's better? Who's better? I think I still think that the Denver Nuggets are better. I think Denver... You think MPJ is stopping Kevin Durant? Well, Aaron. Gordon, yeah. Do you think, do you think that DeAndre Aten or Bismac Bionbo is stopping Nicola Yolkij?

No, exactly. That's not happening. Yokic is rolling out of bed getting 4010 and 10 on the suns. And the same thing that happened two years ago when they had nobody to stop Janus, the same thing is going to happen this year. They don't have an interior presence good enough to stop Yokic. Listen, nobody in the league, nobody in the league does, right? So, like, I'm not like, that's not like a huge.

he's a solid post defender though aidan's like a solid match for what you would hope he listen he's the best he's the best chance but like yokic is arguably and i will say uh player yeah i agree i will say though they desperately do need that interior defense you talked about and as kevin derans got older he's become a solid weak side shot blocker he's been so him having that secondary rim protection is going to be a good fit for them defensively which i think most people aren't thinking about but like hit Kevin duran's defense is a relevant factor in this trade which is weird because we never would have said that three or four years ago but he's really stepped up on that end weirdly as he gotten older

yeah but yeah so you pick the nuggets would you agree their second or at least second or first moh the sons yeah in the conference i would say yeah they're probably one of the three favorites because like the lake has just restructed their whole their whole entire team relax the brawn average fucking like 33 this year we'll get to this new year so it's like i don't know i don't know that's too much

but they're definitely top three. They're top three for sure. Relax. Yeah, I hear you. So, yeah, the question now is, the sons are clearly, when they make this trade, their goal is to get Kevin Durant

and be an immediate title contention. The question I have for you, they gave up Bridges, they gave Cam Johnson. They're two starting forward, so you're losing forward depth, and Jake Crowder's out. But they got T.J. Warren back,

that helps a little bit. Oh, Jay Crowder. Yeah, I know, fucking, okay. But yeah, so I'm just saying, they got rid of three wings for two, and four first-round picks is a lot, for a team that's built around

two 34, 35 year olds with injury history who knows how many years they're going to be them for what do you think about what they gave up long term? Do you think it's going to be a worthwhile gamble? It's Kevin Aaron is easily in whatever way you want to put it

he's one of the seven best players in the world and he was in MVP conversations before he was injured the Brooklyn that started out stupid slow at the start of the season and he elevated like that entire organization with this play on both ends of the court so this is they they did the perfect thing that a lot of NBA teams are scared to do which is gamble on themselves and just like make the bet

at the right time because you're never going to have another opportunity like this let's be honest yeah you're right I mean yeah it's just that's a lot to give up do you guys see it working is what I should say for what let me not say that what makes this trade a positive and what makes them win is it winning a championship or nothing it's championship or bus for the suns now. Okay. If you, you don't, you don't trade for Kevin Durant midseason. If you're not expecting to get a championship, you made the finals two years ago, you, listen, they were the number one seed last year, had the little COVID outbreak or got beat by Luca in the second round. It's a very disappointing season. Everybody's expecting them now to make the finals and to win

it, right? Like if you, if you have Kevin Durant, you have to win the finals, especially if you have a competent team around, around them. That's what we were talking about with the net. It's two weeks ago when everything was good. So, yeah, I'm going to go over to a West, which is wide, freaking open. Could have be wider. It's a slaughter fest, bro. Now it was low-key in arms race now. A lot of teams saw that wide open this and armed up.

It's a slaughter fest. It's not wide open. Slaughterfest? Yeah, it's a slaughter fest in the West right now. By the Nuggets? Huh? What do you mean? What do you mean?

Slaughter Fest? Yeah. Like, meaning like, it's so fucking crowded in the West. I wouldn't say it's wide open at all regardless. No, that's why it's wide open. That's why, yeah, white open just means a lot of them that can win it. Yeah. That like anybody's anybody's game because there's no clear cut one team that's better than the rest.

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and wrong about. We were talking about we were right about the Nets for having faith in them. Boy, me and Donovan are fucking idiots. We were wrong as shit again. This shows us we should never trust Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant and gloat about being right about them, because you never know what's going to happen. Yeah, exactly. This is exactly what we

said. This is exactly what we said. We said, best case scenario, they can win a championship. And if everything goes wrong, they're going to be out of the playoffs. And, like, again, Everything has happened for the Nets this year. They were terrible and they've been great and then now they're back to being terrible.

We just keep going through the cycle. They imploded. It's exhausted. For those who don't know, if you've been under a rock for the last six days, Kyrie Irving requested a trade randomly. It happened like the day after we posted our last episode so sadly we haven't talked about it yet.

But Kyrie Irving is on the fucking Mavericks. Who saw that coming? He wanted to go to the Lakers. There was reports that they didn't want to send him there at a spite because Josai hates Kyrie Irving's ass. what i get by the way i hate that from jos i like that no respect pettiness i respect peddiness i like i think that's right yeah i mo i agree with you now because they took a win now so their way of justifying fucking over the lakers was that the mavericks offered them a win now deal where they got

damn whitty they got dFS and a pick so that allows them to continue to compete around kevin around with these role players i you have to assume they didn't know kevin durant was leaving when they accepted that or else they wouldn't have done that right that's stupid as fuck you can't assume anything With Kevin Durant, you can't assume anything That's why they fucked up at No, no, they I 100% believe that If they knew

That even if they knew and even if they didn't know That they were about to trade Kevin Durant That they were not going to send Kyrie Irving Sure, sure To the Lakers Sure But would they have taken this Mavs offer With Winnell players and less picks?

I doubt it I mean who else was giving deals like that The sons? The sons are after him For Kyrie? Yeah, their sons were after him For something you're sending around And it was like Jay Crowder, Chris Paul, and a picks and whatever.

But even if perhaps they would have like, we don't want DFS, we want an extra pick or whatever. Like they wouldn't have centered around getting these win-out guys back, right? Yeah. Like, clearly there was a little bit of recent development that happened with the Kevin Durant thing. I think that's just poor management, dude. Like, you have to understand who you're dealing with and you have to know your personnel. And I think that was just a clear, that's a clear ball drop on that one, dude. Like, you're trusting the word of Kevin Durant out of every star in the NBA.

Yeah, him? This dude literally just six months ago said he wanted out of your organization. We just posted a short, too, where we're talking about we'd rather build around Devin Bucker, Kevin Durant long term. And I was like, listen, what about Kevin Durant? He's going to leave his fucking team. Like, you cannot trust him. Like, he's going to be out of there.

And look at him. Now they're teammates. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But zeroing back in for a second to the Kyrie Irving thing. Let's talk about the Mazz perspective. We'll talk about the Nets as a whole in a second. Yeah. How do you feel with the Mavs outlook now that they have Kyrie Irving next to Luk,

Donchich? I think short term, I think short term it's a bad move. I think they have a good foundation going into next year and the years after that, because then you have a little bit more flexibility with draft capital. You can start surrounding people with, you can start surrounding them with people that fit. But in the short term, Dallas already couldn't really guard anybody. And now you have Kyrie Irving, Luca Donchich, and Christian Wood, and you traded away during Phyllis Smith. and so now your entire perimeter defense is going to be based on whether or not Reggie Bullock is going to be like on that night and so I think so yeah I'm surprising to make another move yeah I think I think for them I think for Dallas they're turning into

and I guess it's not a terrible idea since the since this team is like good but like they're turn into just like a better version of the Kings and like they're just leaning a wild comparison they have Luca Dodges to carry their being they are leaning all the way into office they are acknowledging and okay and saying right now we're not going to defend anybody we're going to have to score 130 a night and so as for this year i don't think that that style is going to work in the playoffs i think that they kind of that this year it's not going to work out to the way that they want to but next year that's the year that we can start having a real expectation for this team i agree but one thing is we're talking about their

defense so much worse now dwayne finney smith was hurt for a lot of the year their defense was fine it was average and kairri's not a worse defender than dinwiddie dwindie wasn't some stopper so like if you're looking at the early season before they had dFS back and it's replaced didn't with Kyrie the defense isn't that different you know what I mean I mean but like Dinwood he's a little bit he's a little bit bigger and even now like like like marginal you know I mean like he's he's he's a little bit bigger and the fact that like I think the fact that Finney Smith got back and they still had like a chance to be a semi good defense I think bringing in Karee that that 100% leans in and it's very it's going to be very very hard to

build a competent defense around Donchage, Irvin, and Christian Wood. Okay. Moe, do you think the Mazk can win the championship this year? Answer that simple question. Yes and no. It's a very tough question. I can't give you a real answer with that one.

Do I think we can win a championship? Yeah, I'm just going to say yes straight up because they have Luca and Al-Qaeda. Yeah, they can, right? Like, it's not Will they can, but I wouldn't bet my money onto it. I think the Maz put themselves in a very tough position. Like, what early on we talked about it. Nobody should bet their money on Kyrie Irving. Not only that, but like when it comes to just how they've handled like Luca Donchison and like how good he is

already and they haven't had another chance to pair him up with a second star like the Memphis we're able to do and a lot of young teams. What they usually do. And now they kind of put themselves into a position to where this is one of their only options and this is probably, I don't want to say their last option, but like they're out of picks. And so it's probably I wouldn't say they're out of picks. They're not out of picks, but they're running really, really short on options in the future flexibility. Yeah, this limits their ability to do like all-in five picks for a star that comes available.

Yeah, exactly. So I'm glad you brought that up. Let's talk about the Mav's motivations for this trade. That's a good point. I feel like everybody knows, go ahead. No, you're about to say it for me. Yeah. So everybody knows Kyrie was a toxic asset for a lot of people.

In the past off season, when he requested a trade, apparently nobody with the Lakers wanted him and now people kind of talk to himself into it because he's been good this year and there's desperation at the deadline

so the Mavs were like fuck it let's do it and you mentioned the fact that they failed to give Luca a second star they tried the KP thing didn't work now they're trying

the Kairi thing there's a lot of risk involved it's a lot of risk but they had to take this risk because anybody else that they possibly

could have been they're getting out bit by everybody bro a lot of teams have way more than them exactly and that's why that's why the Lakership people are saying

Lakers should did it because your best chance to get a star because the buying point is low and there's a there's a very low end outcome possible where it doesn't work out and he tanks his third straight team or fourth straight but there's also the possibility where he's normal and doesn't go insane or he's normal but doesn't cause an episode and doesn't ruin the team and then you have a star for cheap but don't have been mentioned next year they're going to be really good next year is not a guarantee for the Dallas Mavericks carrie Irving is an unrestricted free agent yeah if he decides to walk. Oh my God, they're fucked. Yeah. They got

Luca a second star. He just leaves, takes all their assets, so all they have left is some picks and Reggie Bullock. That is a huge, huge negative downside that could potentially happen with a very volatile player. Yeah, exactly. But another question is like, what else could they have done? Is there

a better option out there? Because the free last is up-and-coming season, it's ass. Yeah, well, they could have waited. This summer, they would have access to five picks, so if the next Starbicans available, they could have did the all-end thing the Sun just did and be like, here's all of our young assets, all five of our first-on picks, give us the guy. They could have did that.

But I guess because of the connection with Jason Kidd, they believe they can rehabilitate Kyrie and make him not tank the team. So how do you all feel about that risk factor? That's not going to happen. I think whether it's going to be, whether it's going to be this year or two years from now, the way that you said, if there's one thing about Kevin the Wright, he's going to leave your team, if there's one thing about Kyrie ever, he's going to ruin your team. he's that's what that's what he's going to do and he's and there's never been a situation where he doesn't ruin his team not once and there's never been there's never been a situation where he hasn't lied to the media in the process saying i want to end my career here because as soon as you as you hear that call up another gm trade karee because he's about to walk out the door yep and cash in when it's high cash in when it's high bro because god damn this man is lying to little kids in the city cleveland saying i'm going to be here forever and then walks out the door

I want a math to at you next to Dirk's. Exactly. I can't trust him. Shameless. Mo, if you were the GM of this team, would you have made this trade? If I was a GM of this team, would I have made this trade? I value flexibility, and I feel like Kyrie Irving is the worst player to trust and the last player in the entire NBA to trust.

I'm not trusting his world whatsoever. So personally, no, but I understand it why they did. Yeah, that's where I'm in a very vulnerable position. I respect the risk The low end risk is that you might lose Luka over this If this flames out and you have nothing left around him You can't retool You might lose a once in generation star

Which maybe you can say that's too much risk To associate with the guy like Kyrie But the upside is you get a star for cheap That you would never would have been able to bring in With the assets you had for that caliber of player And maybe you give Luca what he needs We saw him last year with no help He had Brunson

Be able to make it to the conference finals Maybe Kyrie gets him over the top Again we should say How funny is it? They played themselves by letting Jalen Brunson walk for nothing. Jalen Brunson this year

has been like what 70, 80% of Kyrie and they could have had him for no assets and kept those picks they traded for Kyrie. What a fucking fumbled. It's mismanagement.

It's mismanagement. This is something that's consistent with Dallas though because even with Dirk they weren't giving Dirk help for years. And so this is something They try.

They just don't get free agents. This is something that that we have seen for decades out of the Dallas Mavericks I don't know if it's going to work out I kind of hope for their sake that it does work out but like we've been saying

I don't trust Kyrie Irving to... Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I kind of hope it doesn't work out. I kind of want to see Luca request a trade. I'm not going to lie. You just like him. Man.

You like that. I kind of want to see Luca be, you know, like a lifer. I like that kind of stuff. I don't care. Have you seen those Mavericks jerseys? I have to watch a lot of Luka because he's Luca and every week I have to watch

these Mavericks jerseys that look like they're straight at 2002 because they are and they haven't changed in 20 years okay okay so trade so so the Mavericks just need to trade for like a new designer instead of Kyrie Irving they said a rebrand and I'm good and then you're fine but yeah lifers are cool lifers are cool you guys you guys are terrible lifers are fun bro I have Gen Z TikTok brain where I need to see trades I need to see big news and have my dopamine hit in my brain

I gotta see it bro the attention span is kapoot these days like I need something new every scene single time so we've been on the team for four years Jesus old man we're losing recipes fuck that recipe the nets are interesting spot now obviously much has been said about the biggest failure of all time with this big three they had 16 games of absolute domination they were incredible when they had james hard and kairie and kd sick but they had 16 games of them utter failure complete garbage the worst big three of all time but could have been the best big three of all time.

And now they have Ben Simmons, Boring Phiney Smith, Spitzerton-Witty, Macawbidges. I will say, they have, their picks are all owed to the Rockets over the next, like, five years. Oh, my God. That's sick, bro.

Lots of picks owed, so they have to remain decent. But have you seen their roster? They're like, low-key deep as fuck with just a bunch of good players. Their roster is deep. They have a lot of fucking wings in three-and-D people. If they had a star or two on that team, damn, that sucks to say.

Cam Thomas. They have Dinwiddie, Cam Thomas, DFS, McCall Bridges, Ben Simmons, Claxton, Joe Harris, Seth Curry. The list goes on. Three of them dudes are not going to be there in the offseason. Three of them are getting traded for first-on picks. All you can do is, like, try to cultivate what you did a couple of years ago when they landed D'Angelo Russell and just start from ground up brick by brick.

and this time don't try to fumble it for the fucking third time in a row like you did back in i don't know what it was 2013 or something like that way they traded for 2012 when they traded for kj paul hearson and all them dudes like try to do it the right way this time because now you did it the wrong way and you fell on your face even harder and everyone was looking at you crazy and still like that so all i'm saying is next year next year when ben simmons is back we're going to have the ben simmons of bridges camp thomas big three or take it over the NBA stop that vin simmons he can't play basketball i'm out now he'll be fine he'll get back to something eventually but yeah right now he sucks ass to what but yeah so they're an interesting spot i guess like you said they're back to those dams

and wrestle days what an that's what jos i wanted though that's what jos i wanted in the offseason josiah was saying that he would rather that he would rather have like a frisky 42 win team than be held hostage by stars and have like the potential so josiah has exactly what he wants Yep. And there's one thing he got, it's frisk right now. Yep. So he better be happy. This is exactly what he wanted.

Listen, we're 24 minutes into the show. We have to talk about what people are here for. They want to hear about the Lakers. You want to hear about the Lakers. Are you sure about that? Go ahead. I'll put my mic down. I've heard plenty of the Lakers.

I'll put my mic down. You can take a little. Yeah, let's go ahead and take a nap. All I'm saying is, beginning of this week when Carrey Irving requested a trade, I said this is a legacy week for Rob Polinka. Two days later, I said This man is Anthony Bennett in Legacy Games

He failed to get Kyrie flopped Everyone was like, this man sucks, fire him When I say this man put up a triple double This All-Star break I mean this trade deadline Rob Polika was in his fucking bag For those who don't know Russell Westbrook is finally out of my life

And for that we rejoice And thank our Lord and Savior Rob Polanka He treated in a three-way trade He got rid of Russell Westbrook Wancashonel Anderson Damien Jones and one first round pick, just one, and got back DeAngelo Russell,

Malik Beasley, and Jared Vanderbilt. Listen, that's a great trade, is it not? Complete revamp. That's a great trade. I don't think De Anzer Russell is a fantastic player, but that is like... But he's a good fit. Fit-wise, he's perfect for what the Lakers are looking for,

and what they need. Malik Beasley is one of the most lethal role players in the NBA. Derek Vanderbilt, he's on offense, but his defense hasn't been as good at Utah but he has a reputation of being a good defender so they've been using him wrong though that's a problem they've been using him like a help side like a Janus role as a four he's really a one-on-one perimeter wing defender

and that's what they should use him as in LA so if they do that they can unlock them yeah will they do that I don't know but hey liquor's fans rejoice bro you're up yeah you know also funny Thomas Bryant requested a trade because he thought he deserved consistent minutes that he's not getting with AD back so they changed him for three second round picks I feel that for Thomas Bryant Yeah, I'll feel from If you work as hard as time

Thomas Bryant is running Win sprits every play And he's like, I'm only getting 15 minutes Nah, I'm going I'm running for something He said, I want this shit Trade me to OKC Trade me to Detroit

Train me to Houston I want to go somewhere Where I could play So I mean he's the backup To Yokish now How much is it going to play? I mean, he probably didn't want to go to Denver He should have stayed in

In Lakerland, bro On top of that deal The Lakers also traded Patrick Beverly and one second round pick that they got from the Thomas Bryant deal for Mo Bamba for Mo Bamba

a backup center who can shoot in block shots and play with AD Yeah, that's fantastic That's fantastic They got the two point guards Who can't shoot Who are just supposed to be vibes guys

And don't, like their vibes are not even like all that Yep And actually got NBA like rotational players So fact Shout out to the Lakers Bro, so the roster We're looking at now for them is

For point guard Oh let's go starting five They're probably going to do Delo, Reeves, Braun, Vanderbilt, Davis. Your second unit is Dennis, Malik Beasley, Rui Hachimara. It's nice. Yeah. Who's a back of four? Who am I missing?

Who might not think of that before? Oh, there's a Walker. What's his name? No. Okay. Don't want a Walker in there. We are blanketed as a pod. I'm blinking. There's somebody else I'm not thinking of.

Okay, but either way, them, and then Mo Bomba is your backup five. That is a respectable lineup to put around the Bronin AD, which we couldn't have said weeks ago. A weeks ago, they were the smallest team in the NBA. They had lineups with Kendrick Nunn, Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, Beverly, and Russell Westbrook at the same time, fucking kill me. And now all of them are gone, and they have size, they're young. You think about Troy Brown? Yes. Troy Brown, yeah. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, Troy Brown's the other wing. So, yeah, they have size. They're big. They can shoot. They're young.

Thank God. We're not going to repeat of last year with all these old fucks. What is your current outlook for this new look Lakers team? We'll see. Will they make the play in? I don't know.

I don't know. I'm still cautious. I think to get into the play-in, you're going to have to be somewhere around 500. There are two games out of it right now. Out of 500 or out of the 10? Out of the play-in, the play-in. Yeah.

There's like, They're five games under 500 right now. And they're going to get smacked by the books tonight. So it's assumed they're going to be six games under 500 with 26 games left. So they would have to go 16 and 10 to get to 500. I will say, though, they have a favorable schedule in the last, like, kind of week and a half of the season. They play, I think over the last 26 games.

They have two games against the Rockets. They have two games against the Jazz. They have some games that they can actually 100% go and win, right? So I think, like, I think there's one, there's one, I was looking at the schedule earlier. There's one more game that I would count as like an automatic win for them. So I think that for them to make the play in, they're going to have to go a 500 ball, basically. And I just, I just don't know. I just don't know.

They have to play the Warriors a couple times. The Grizzlies still on the schedule. Yeah. But Steph is hurt. It's tough. Steph is hurt. So I wouldn't worry about that. But off the bat, I think they definitely do make it because if I look at the list of teams in the Western Conference right now,

I think they're... Are the Blazers holding on to that spot? I fucking think not. Yeah, exactly. No, but the Thunder might take it. I'm not worried by the Thunder. The Thunder are going to shut down and try to get the lottery

and try to get Wemby by any force of nature. You say that now. You say that now and when it's the last game of the season and Shay's putting up 35 and you need them to lose. I'll fucking cry myself to sleep. Sick. That's what's going to happen. I think the Thunder still have a chance to me.

They do, they do. I was kidding. Thunder are nice. They just beat the fucking Lakers. It was embarrassing on the fucking LeBron night. Which we didn't talk about. Shout of LeBron. our goat broke the scoring record

we all knew it was going to happen it was beautiful to see not much to say about it but it was gorgeous but yeah shout out to your goat so I believe that during the second half of this season LA is going to be better than OK Utah Jazz as of course the pool and trope players

they're such a depressing team I think they're going to be doing better than the wars because of the step injury and the wars didn't really make any moves at all other than bringing Gary Payne Jr. back home but that's like a whatever and I think they're better the Minnesota, they're definitely better than

the New Orleans Pelicans because there's just too much injuries going on right there and I don't know what's going on with the clippers but they might be better than them so. Oh so you think that the Lakers get up to six? I think they can I think they can get up to seven

confidently without a doubt six probably but seven they have too much space to make up that's so like four games in 26 games like that's tough. Yeah a lot of the West got better and the teams that I just listed didn't get better whatsoever.

They made no moves. No real moves. Let's talk about the fit with these new players specifically because we all think they're so consensus they have potential to make it to the play in range but it's going to be hard to get into the top six but it's doable if they just go fucking nuts but hard to imagine that because it's going to take time for these players

to gel together. But so we all think that eventually they can be a quality team. So how do you feel about DeAndre Russell's fit with this team first off? I think I think he fits. I think I think anybody who can shoot the basketball fits with LeBron James. Naturally.

And so like, and when you don't have, right, and I've tried to defend Russell Westbrook as much as possible. But when you don't have Russell, when you don't have Russell Westbrook actively taking 10 points off the board every night with Miss layups, you're going to be in more games. Like, so I think like if DeAngelo Russell can make two layups and hit one three,

he's going to be a net positive for them. and so like so malik beasley shooter he fits right like you have you have guys that are going to be able to space the floor a lot more for lebron to drive in anthony davis is going to have a little bit more room to work um down low like this this is good for the lakers yeah yeah absolutely i'm kind of skeptical about d angel russell and whether or not he'll be able to like live up to the expectation that he has because in minnesota I don't even know. What's expectation to you? I don't know. Like, I think a lot of Lakers friends are thinking him as of, like, he's a savior now when he's not that whatsoever. There, I see a whole bunch of Lakers fans taking a look at it screen, screenshoting his stats

for the season. I think he's averaging like 19 points, which I didn't think he was out of it whatsoever. He's been nice. He's been, I, but whenever I watched the Minnesota tournament, he's had a good season. For the most part, he's been, he's been disappointed. I wouldn't say he's having a good season. Well, he's having a good season on the, on the, on the, on the, buck that's like saying try young's having a good season right now as well like that's

there's a lot of things on the court i don't know there's just a lot of things on the court nerds overrating that are just like pure mishaps that just kill the flow of basketball so i won't say he's having a good season whatsoever sometimes the angel russell he has the skills he's flashy you want to think he's great but sometimes he has terminal dillan brook's brain where he just takes over the offense in a very damaging way he'll run a pick and roll and they'll switch it and nothing will happen he'll back up dribble a couple times go into another picking row real slow and next thing you know there's four seconds left on the shot clock and he's dumping it off for Rudy Gobert to do

nothing he sometimes just ruins the flow of your offense but you know with playing with lebron exactly he's going to do less yeah you can be the secondary ball handler and we can get bench lineups that are him and a d running pick and rolls and his life's never have been going to be easier than it is with this team like we're going to have bench lineups that have ruy beasley uh sorry for the top delo beasley Rui, Ad, Bamba. Like, that's going to be a bench lineup they use. That's going to be pretty easy for him to dish out.

It's pretty solid. And listen, if there's a difference between dumping the ball off with four seconds to Rudy Gobert and then there's a difference to doing it with Anthony Davis. So, like, that's probably still going to be a solid play. Like, if he can get into that with six seconds left on the shot clock, he'll be just fine. Yeah. And it's like, even outside Delo, they had the point guard they need

now with him that isn't an awful fit because he can't shoot they got a shooter they have a wing stopper they have a five that can stretch the floor they're not tiny they check like pretty much all the boxes like what would they need to really become a true contender another high quality wing i guess but like they've got a lot of boxes checked i think this is the best that you could ask for they give up one of those pigs not both and then you put dennis short having a fantastic season of my opinion shout to him shout out dennis yeah put him on the bench in the best role i think that he's fit for. And you really can't complain,

well, they're nice all around now and they're completely revamped as a team. This is an entirely different team. And now all you can hope for is 80 to get back to his monstrous generational level of basketball he's playing for.

That would be this playing. And you're hoping the best part doesn't have to continue to carry consistently so he can save some of that juice for the playoffs. No, he has to go all out to try to make the playoffs.

But yeah, the best part is too, all these guys have at least one or the year in their contract left. Billy Beasley has a team option so if he's good to keep him if not they say

fuck out of here the only one is DeLo will be an unrestricted free agent this year and now he has 26 games to prove

the Lakers to pay him right and what that means is before this going to it next year they're going to be a point

where the only people on the roster where Austin Reeves oh no Austin Reeves too but restricted but the only

people they have was Austin Reeves cap hold Ruey's cap hold of restricted free agent Christy Lebron and AD

basically zero depth on the roster going to next year and now they have all these role players who will in all likelihood be here next year so even if this year fails they don't need to make the plan lebron gets hurt again next year they have foundation to be a good team with the whole offseason to build around this foundation they have and that's all you can hope for right absolutely why he looked like you just had a bunch of bullshit

no i mean it's just like you have it's a lost season you hope for next year you have lebron and anthie davis and we're like oh like if they could be a good team like that's cool like no fan You're trying to win championships Like you brought LeBron there to win championships You traded for Anthony Davis to win championships Can they win a championship with this team? Yes Even if it's next year

This team? No even if it's next year With this core going to next year Because let's say this is the loss season This is how they jail for next year And this is the core, same team Say there's no changes Can they win a championship

With the full season of this team? No, I don't think so What's the weakness? What's stopping them? I don't think so I think it's the thing that you mentioned earlier I don't think that they have enough firepower

outside of um outside of lebron ad and if you're asking listen we've we've we've come to like to we've taken this for granted lebron is 38 years old he's averaging 30 points per game eventually he's in eventually he's going to stop averaging 30 whether that means that he's going to win that six years ago man no i don't i don't i don't know but to be asking the 39 year old man to be playing high high minutes in the regular season be scoring 30 at night and if Anthony Davis, like Moe said, if Anthony Davis doesn't get back to the level that he was at the beginning of the season, then no. He's been good things he came

back. What level? He's fine. He's asked his last game, but I think he's still back. He was sick, apparently. Apparently he was sick. And also, nobody wanted to take shots besides LeBron. So, like, I'll take it with a grain of salt. He had a low scoring number. You know who did want to take a shot? Tom Brosebren. No.

Tom Brack's right. That picture's so funny. That picture is so humiliating. The iconic picture of LeBron hid in the fade away to break the record. Thomas Bryan's goofy ass is sealing under the basket, calling for an entry pass, ready to fucking dunk on Josh Giddy. For him to even,

yeah, polls like that, it was his time to be. He said, that's not what the coach called. That's not the play. Send me to Sacramento. Exactly.

But no, I don't think the Lakers can win a championship. Okay, so are they one move away? What do you think is that move? That move would probably be something like, and it's never going to happen because he never wants to leave

but they would have to go get like a Bradley bill they would have to they would have to go get that oh I mean yeah they got another star level player sure but I mean within the realm of building around these guys with like you know

like the 2020 model with a lot of role players they have a first round pick do they need another wing do they need a backup room protector another point guard like what do you what do you see as the weakness I think

I think another wing I think I think another wing I think yeah I think with I think with LeBron and Delos you're gonna have enough ball handling I think with Bamba and AD you're going to have enough defense at the rim, I think. But now, if you're talking about Beasley, Rui, Troy Brown, like, that's kind of your, like, core wings.

Vanderbilt and Reeves are good defenders. But it's Reeves, though, like, it's just, like, he's nice. He's cool, but he's like, he's Austin Reeves. You see what I'm saying? No, what are you saying? He's nice. I need a little bit more firepower. I'm not.

I need a little bit more. Now, if I was to say, I need some more, you know, bounce some more athleticism. Then maybe we can get into that conversation. But I need a little bit more offensive firepower, a little bit more offensive creation. Somebody like, so, like, if they could go out and bring coos back, that would be interesting to me, right? If they could go and get somebody like an OG and an OB, that type of stuff. That seems true that they need to make. Okay.

That makes sense. Yeah, you're right. just need a it's a talent thing i guess at some point you just need one more you just you just feels like one more piece yeah yeah i get it yeah i don't know what do you think mo can they can win a title i think they can't but this in my mind like i think they can too not i think i trust everybody on that roster the only person i have questions about is again like d'angelo russell like if a lot of lakers fans on twitter think that he was having as amazing season if he actually that he is then while would the minnesota timber rules want to get rid of him in replacement for

Mike Conley who's like 8 million years old Because they don't want to pay him I'll tell you why yeah They're having impasses on his contract extensions And there's report today from one of their beatwriters That apparently Delo hated the fuck out of Rudy Gobert That he would like vocally like hate this guy And like we're physan domed lobs

And it was a big chemistry issue So that's what they got Mike Conley Who has this connection with Gober for the past couple years And we'll throw him lobs and make him feel comfortable Apparently Delo just hated that man with all his heart Yeah on top of that he wasn't he wasn't playing that well on the court as well they're just clear mishaps

and part of reason why is that fucking Rudy Gobert So back to back spots A guard hates playing with Rudy Gobert You can't do nothing on offense This bum This bum

Rudy Gobert on offense And it's so funny Yeah like He must be an annoying person Because like Nobody's mad at Robert Williams Because he has no post moves Maybe it's the amount he's paid

Maybe it's the cachet he has Maybe he's just annoying And bitches and moans But something about where you go bear There's a lot of bigs Who can't do anything with the ball in their hands But he gets hated on vice teammates for it He must be so annoying

He has to be easy He's a lame He must call for the ball a lot That's probably yeah He must want the ball but can't do shit Robert Williams is never calling for a post-up He's on his 2K He calls for the ball too much

His teammate grade Yeah literally spamsay That's funny Yeah Let's move on to some of these other trades We talked about the big three There's a lot of moves on the edges Because a ton of trades happened

Yeah Let's talk about what the Warriors did they essentially Demon home They brought back Gary Payton But to get Gary Payton A man who they let walk in the summer Because they didn't want to pay him

Go into the luxury tax Because they're not going to it But they're so far into it That every $1 million they spend They pay $8 million in tax So if they pay him $10 million a year He would have been an $80 million player If I'd do a math rate

So they didn't want to bring him back And now they concluded That it's time to give up on James Wiseman Because we don't fucking play him So they trade him in a three-team deal to get five second round picks back. They trade those five second round picks to get Sadiq Bay.

They trade Sadiq Bay for Gary Payton. Oh, no, no, they trade James Weiser for Sique Bay. They get five second round picks for Sadiq Bay. Yeah. Then those second round picks become Gary Payton. So they traded their number two overall pick, prize possession they refused to draft Lamello ball with, refused to trade for a starter a couple years ago,

to get a man back who they could have had for no assets this summer. I feel like explain this to me. The reason why they did this trade is because they must have, like, been trying. I think I saw someone before they were reaching really hard for OG Anubi because of all the movement that was happening, Kevin Durant being the movement in the Western Conference. And also, like, the rappers are in the house.

So you kind of need to sure up your defense. And you just need more straight up, more firepower like you were saying, Donovan. And Oji United Anunobi is that. And so it sounded like Gary Payne is just the backup. He was the backup option. You can't cash in the rapist for way too much. multiple first-arm picks that we're not trying to cash in right now we're not trying to give up mulles is moody or i don't know what they're the raptors are asking for but it just sounded like

a backup option of a spare time yeah yeah so yeah it was reported they were trying to gear up to get ogy which if they would have ojiannobie and and andrew wiggins as wing defenders with jamon green behind them yeah what's that's insane yeah so i think a lot of this was financial too They couldn't pay Gary Payton because the cost would have been so much. And by shedding Wiseman, they're shedding like another $90 million because he makes $10 million a year. So everything's financial with them because they're in a really sticking situation. So that's what it comes down to. But man.

And it also, James Wiseman is a sunk cost, right? Like, at the end of the day, his value is gone. I'm glad I'm going to say that. I don't think, like, it's not, this isn't a move where it's like, oh, it costs you something. James Wiseman wasn't, he wasn't playing. Yeah. They had, they had given up on him. and it was very clear that he wasn't going to turn into the number two overall pick or anything.

Like that, at that point, ship sales. Yeah, we're just, that's just a title in front of his name, but it doesn't mean anything for James Wiseman because he's not good. Yeah. So,

yeah. So shout out them. They got Gary Payton back. The vibes are back. They're going to try to make this run. I'm extremely happy because, like, I'm not even a Warriors fan, but seeing Gary Payton leave to the Blazers,

that one kind of hurt last year because I was like, dang, work you care that much about the guy damn i like i like gary pain a lot okay yeah gary pain solid but there's another player that i really want to talk about our specific team and it's the lakers rivals or i don't know if he comes considering rivals but isa los angeles clippers for some reason they kill every trade deadline it's so unknown they cooked how did they get bones highland who is not a fantastic young player but he's pretty promising in my mind for one second round pick i thought it was two oh two to rewrite i'm looking out of it

is too. 24 and 2024 and 2025. That's all it took. And they traded Luke Kinnard. They did a few moves. They got Mason Plumley. They waved John Wall. They got Bones Highland.

They got Eric Gordon. Oh my God. And then they got one more piece. Who was it? I don't remember the piece. I'm trying to look. Can't be that relative. Yeah, they got three second round picks and Eric Gordon.

Got rid of Luke Conard. Got rid of John Wall. And they might bring in West & Westwood. They got Plumley. Yeah, they got Mason Plumby. They traded away Reggie Jackson and a second round pick. Yeah, and now, well, it seems like a foregone conclusion they're going to sign Russ, but it's not official yet. Yeah.

But a lot of people think it's going to happen. They just, we talk about the Lakers revamping their whole. They don't sink themselves. They're going to sink themselves by getting Russell. But, but, but I will say, Russell Westbrook on the Lakers making $40 million a year is a toxic asset. You want nothing part of your team. But Russell Westbrook on the Clippers making $2 million surrounded by shooters as a team that needs playmaking, makes a little more sense. Any given game, you could bench him because it doesn't.

matter he's a minimum guy you don't have this resource allocation to him it just makes the equation a little different you know what I mean the moment Russell Wilson Russell Wilson the moment Russell Westbrook misses two layups in a row and they deadpan and they showed the shot of kawai just deadpan on the sideline and we all understand what that face means I'm telling you it's going to be a problem yeah but then they didn't think and they can just not play him I'm surprised like I got rid of Reggie Jackson that was surprising to me I thought they liked him now he's going to be on the buyout market yeah exactly i was kind of surprised they just super surprising to do we get the lakers props or redoing their whole supporting castes around

their stars because it wasn't working that's what they fucking did they got rid of everybody and brought her new names in good for them they they kill this shit every year yeah man that was just so shocking to me and it was weird to see how willing leave the denver nuggets where to give up someone like that bones island to someone in their same conference for so cheap too like in my mind you couldn't have like taken away one important asset to them

but you had to give up like I don't know maybe it was a financial thing too I'm not 10% sure It was a chemistry thing Yeah apparently he was having issues With like wanting playing time And I'm wanting a certain role And clashing with Mike Malone

It was like it was a personnel issue So I get it if they feel like they have to trade them But like two sick round picks Like they don't want to replace that For a win now team They don't want a player loss Loss of a trade well Straight up

like how bad must have been they felt like they got to trade him even if they get nobody back like that must have been toxic as hell yeah man well i mean this man's family our close friends was calling jamal a bitch on social media with who had one good year yet i didn't see yeah please hold on islands one of his homies were calling jemal murray a bitch on social media saying oh yeah he had one good year in the bubble and now he thinks he ought that or whatever and bone silence was following that dude and he has history with that dude or whatever so oh wow yeah yeah i'm sure sure people that watch that are like following Nuggets beat riders and know the chemistry issues

like we'll speak on it and I'll probably agree that Bones Highland had to go but you can't be happy with two second round picks right like after Gary Paine got traded for five you can't tell me like Gary Paine's much of value bro true I mean two that's crazy this second round picks they're five I know but five is a lot but the number five is like five to two I ratio listen I know it's because everybody likes bucket getters most we'll probably say Bones Howland is better than Gary Payton. I don't know if I'd say that, but it's not three, three picks different.

I'll tell you that. No, but like you, listen, you overpaid because you had to rectify a mistake. Like on the, on the, on the, on the, on the open market, they were probably, they're probably around the same, like, value. That's crazy. Looking at the rest of these trades,

the six years finally got rid of Matisse Tybal, free, free Jamal and B from the shackles of Matisse Tybal's jump shot. Good for him. And they got Jalen McDaniels, who was a solid. player. So good for them.

Good for them. There's also cost cutting measures. They got out of the tax. So whatever. Who gives a shit about their owner's fucking checkbook? So many small trades happened. I will care much. Josh Richardson,

one of the pelicans. No, I did, I did see it. I don't know how that, like, that was one of the small moves that actually didn't impress me that much. I don't,

I don't think it, I don't think it moves the needle for, um, for New Orleans. Just because for New Orleans. right now, their biggest issues that everybody's hurt. And so, like, swapping out Devante Graham for Josh Richardson, I don't think it, I don't think it helps them.

Yeah, like, it's like, okay, like, if the money works, it's cool. But I don't think it's a lot. No, we can talk about. Oh, we're going to talk about it. No, you can go. I was going to ask you guys, is there a team that you expected to make a move, but didn't? I'm glad you said this. I'm about to bring this motherfuckers up.

The Toronto Raptors are so unsirious, I hate them. Masayu Jury is a criminal. They all week have been talked about as a team that's going to sell their pieces, going to make moves, keep the deadline interesting.

They didn't trade OG. They didn't trade Gary Trent. They didn't trade Fred Van Bleet. They didn't trade Pascal Seacom. They traded for Yacobotel. They bought. They gave up a whole first round pick, which is good, but damn,

for Yacopold again. Damn. Why do they want to be mid so bad? Bad. They are here to compete, Isaac. They want to win basketball games. Who do they compete with? New Orlando Magic?

Fuck. They're a lottery team by far. They do ball the entire league so hard, bro. They're a playing team, and you will respect them as such. No, I will not. Fuck that mid-ass team. I should have traded Gary Trent for first. They wanted too much for OG.

They should have took in the two first-on picks and get for him purely for my entertainment sake because I'm tired of seeing this boring-ass team and then pump-ficking us with saying they're going to do deals and they'm not doing it. Yeah, absolutely, dude I I can't even cap like They should have traded somebody They gotta get rid of somebody man

I thought Fred was gone I thought I knew you I didn't think him I thought OG was good as gone I thought Gary Trent was gone as fuck I always felt like OG OG to me is starting to move into the John Collins space Where his name is just gonna be

In the conversation And I feel like when we talk about like three and d guys and people who could do just a little bit more OG is the poster boy for that and every team wants him but the the Raptors are going to be like well he's the number one three and D guy so I'm gonna need a king's ransom for him and they're never gonna get it they've made him so overrated he's an all star bro yeah three first on picks kiss my ass

it's OJ and and Obie what are you talking about he's a good player but he's at a star like what the hell treating him like he's damn Paul Georgia some like relax fact, literally, like, what are we talking about? Yeah. Missise is starting to get a watch, bro. Torn Raptors is annoying. Another team that I thought was going to make a move was the Miami Heat.

I thought they were going to get off of Kyle Lurie, but they didn't do it any much. They should have gotten something. Hey, they might say Russ. Huh? They might say Russ. Please don't. Please don't. That's so nice.

That's so bad, though. He would, he would fit culturally with what Miami does. They don't need him on the team. they don't need them on the team they kind of do need him on the team that's a nasty fit with they kind of need a point guard

nah I wouldn't like Russ on that team bro that's kind of I didn't like because I wouldn't like Russ and A team in particular besides the clippers but they need a point guard is Reggie Jackson the answer for them

do they sign him? Yeah I'd rather sign Roger Jackson and Russ for that team specifically Bam out of bio was finally snapping this season and I don't I think you still wouldn't want to continue to give him

as much space as possible so he can continue yeah the things he's in right now and eventually ascend to whatever the Miami he believed he can ascend to. Could you imagine Russ, Jimmy Butler, bam out of bio lineups? Spacing fucking felony

right there. That's torment right there. I don't want to think about that. You need to have Tyler Hero out there chucking up 10-3s to keep it honest. Gross. Yeah, nah. Can't be moving like that.

Dang, Russ is really going to be out the league this year. That's wild. Nah, I'll be somewhere. He's just going to be a minimum guy, which sucks for him. Like, he's trying to get paid. He's not going to be at the league, though. That's really wild. I've been saying, wow, that's crazy.

Nah, he's done. He's done. Listen, man, that's all the major deals. There's a lot of other small stuff. We don't go to talk about Jay Crowder. We don't got to talk about George Hill or Sergei Baca. Or FEMA-Ru. That's on the major trades.

It was a crazy deadline. I loved it. People were talking about this might be a quiet one. It was not. It was fantastic, bro. This trade deadline reminded me of back in 2019, summer of 2019, or whenever, whenever Kaua Leonard got traded to the Toronto Raptors. he got some of that

yeah it was summer and he got traded like at four or five a m and my ass is awake and i was like holy shit and something similar got something similar happened the top five player got moved so it's very very very reminiscent of that time fantastic yeah yeah right man wait wait wait wait real quick before we get out of here i got to say my piece

we're not getting out of here we got ticot time coming yeah i'm saying before okay before we trade this one whatever i got the nix man i got it we got we got to talk about this josh heart real quick, Josh, the Knicks get Josh Hart for Cam Reddish and a protective future first round pick. I like Josh, I like Josh Hart a lot. I think that he's a good player.

I think the mismanagement from the Knicks is absolutely ridiculous. You're saying, I would like Tom Thibito fired for this. I honestly, I truly, Timbido's not the GM. Wait, is he the one who made that move? No. No. Tibbs, Tibbs is the one who refused to play Cam Reddish.

and he's the and he's the one that after after the nix went and invested just a little bit in cam reddish but in a talented young player who has the ability to score and just sit him on the bench when you have very limited depth when rj is is not playing the way that he needs to when uh when quentin grimes before he was inserted into into the lineup cam reddish should have played a lot more than what he did And I think, I think if they, it's clear, right? It's clear that Tom and the front office are not aligned on everything. And you can see it in the small stuff and it's going to spiral into the big stuff. Okay.

And I see you. I think that this is a fireable offense. I think it's time to change direction because if you can't agree to give a talented 22 year old some minutes last year and this year when you're, when you're not like, like a top team and you're still trying to like build and develop and do all that and now you have to give up a first to give him away that's that's terrible they didn't give him oh they got josh hard judge hard's good you gave you gave up a first and a talented young player you keep saying talented have you considered the fact that maybe there's a reason two teams in a row haven't wanted to give him minutes and nobody want to give a pick for him i think he fucking sucks i think both teams

honestly mismanaged cameras maybe he sucks and is not coachable. I don't know. Maybe there's a reason. I truly think that. Listen, I like, I like Josh Hart. I like the fact that Josh Hart is on my team now. The way that we got here, I'm not happy with. Okay. It's a process that matters more than anything. And you hate that he wasn't given a chance. I get it.

Yes. I hear the crayon eaters in the back saying, tiki talk time, please. And I think we got to go back to the next one. Spent does not want to talk about camera. He knows. Cam, I love Cam Redis. Like, he's the one that got away. I, I didn't know how had a stroke when I found out he was traded to New York, all right?

I, I, I don't know his number one, but he just thinks that he's like the, he can be, like, the face of a team or one of the faces of the team when that just probably not be his role. They don't know him. I have a feeling there's probably a reason two teams don't want to play him. I'll say that. We don't know for sure. He was great. He's locker rooms.

There's probably a reason. Yeah. His best basketball that I've ever seen him play. not in his entire life because he was a fucking monster in high school but in the playoffs, the 2021 playoffs in the Eastern Conference finals who was coming off of an injury for after months and coming back he came back as a completely different person in the most important basketball game of his life and he was given

the business to Chris Middleton talking trash Cam Reddish usually is a player who's like to himself a Kobai Leonard type who's just more reserved. Didn't show to much passion but that series right there was like a game changer and I guess after that series he was like yo I'm him like they should want to prioritize me start me over DeAndi Hunter crazy shit like that and

he just wants a bigger role a big enough role and I don't think that there is any teams in the NBA outside of who maybe that are Troy Pissons right now trade him to San Antonio man get get camera this to San Antonio so you can hoop oh Sandy you think free camera you think pop is a loan that

I don't know I think Portland's a give him a chance Portland has him and Shaden Sharp Is these two young wings? I think they're gonna give him a chance. Yeah, for sure. But I'd rather play in his year-in-as-year-low. Or they're going to have to see me if they don't. Speaking of Portland, they're down in the dumps right now, man.

They're down on. They made all these moves in the off-season. They suck. And now they're just like kind of missed the playoffs again. And they sold. They sold Josh Hart. They're terrible. Yeah.

So be it. Let's talk about these motherfucking TikToks. It is TikTok time. We're now we're in. We're flying through these. I'm tired. It's late. It's a big trade land day.

Let's get some fucking content made. Let's go. As you guys know, as always, we start off with the drafts. Today we're doing a draft of the best shooters of all time. And so we're not drafting like, this is the best shooter. This is the second best shooter. We're drafting starting five still, but with the general theme of good shooters. All right.

Make sense? Yeah. So we got the first pick. Let's draft starting. let's draft starting lineups with the best shooters of all time wait I got I said starting fuck let's draft NBA lineups

with the best shooters of all time perfect let's do it let's do who has the first pick who has the second pick last time oh don't you have you have first pick it's Donovan Moe me what

yeah yeah yeah remember Donovan picked the NASA's second last time oh true yep yep yep all right first pick greatest shooter ever give me Stephan Wardell Curry

Yeah, easy pick, whatever Okay I won Fuck All right, well now this is Kind of the gray area It's like Steph Curry That is everyone else

So I'm gonna have his backcourt partner Give me Clay Thompson Again, easy pick, whatever Number three and number four Give me Ray Allen and Kevin Durant Okay I like that Is it my turn?

I'm gonna get my wings sorted right away Okay Is it my turn? Yeah. Yes. Give me Damien. How do we still get confused by snake jabs? Yeah.

Give me Damian. Would you pick? Okay, that's a good pick. One of the most off the dribble, one of the most lethal off the dribble shooters. I like it. Yeah. The difficulty in his, the difficulty in the type of shots that he takes need to be counter for. He's him.

For sure. All right. That's cool. Wait. Who'd you take, uh, Isaac? Ray Allen and Kevin Durant. Okay. That's what I thought.

Okay. All right. For my two. Give me a. similar off the ball type of player Give me Rip Hamilton As a horrible pick What's the fuck am I too?

He's a professional seller man Oh my goodness Donovan you are trash at peace Holy shit This is what we're gonna do We're gonna like We're gonna like Rick Hamilton is not a good Off the ball shooter Like he's not a good player

Go ahead man Keep going All right next up Give me dirt Okay Real good pick I like that Yeah shut up Go ahead and shut up

Go ahead Give me the best shooting big men of all tan car in 30 towns. Okay. Yeah, your team is soft now. You lost. Soft my ass, bro. I got Dane, Clay, and Cat. I'm winning this.

Let's go. All right, Isaac, who you got? At my small Ford, Larry Bird. Easy. Yeah. And then at point guard, at point guard, give me one of the most talented off the dribble shooters of all time. Give me James Hardin.

Okay. We're talking about shot difficulty and impressiveness. Underrated as a shooter. okay that's odd so wait can you repeat your team so far one more time for me James Harden

Ray Allen Kevin Durant Larry Bird I'm cooking y'all Okay so Mo just doesn't understand like it's three people

in the snake jaff bro no no I know I know I just had I just had to make sure that he didn't get the player that I was going to get so I got dame clay and i got cat so i needed three and i also need a four pamilton you're crazy you're still disgusting for that bro i can't believe you did that so naturally damn i don't want to do this i'm gonna let me just get someone easy give me paul george he's a great shooter okay yeah

Solid. I guess. Better than Rit. Okay. Paul George can, he can't run. He can't run with Rit. Anyways.

He can't, yeah, he can't run around the screens. All right. Um, at my three, at my three, give me,

give me Reggie Miller to play my three. Yeah. Okay. That's nice. And then for my five. Oh, give me, give me Yokin.

five okay okay that's kind of clunky but that's solid yes not a bad team at all all right we just got we just got mad movement we just run it all over the place mad movement yeah so i got dame clay pg and cat i that's a great team that is a fire team actually it's looking good how are you gonna fill this last four spot now that's very pivotal because the four spot is very important to fill my last four spot dirk is gone

you know there's a lot of options there's a lot to do here and watch himself yeah my mind is blanking right now my CTE kicking in every draft we have you do this your mind always blinks you just

never know he never imagine players There's just, like, so much out there. There's somebody to choose from. What do I do? Oh, no. Really, you can't think of any. I don't want to, I don't want to say what I'm going to say. Go ahead and do it.

Say it. Throw me some names. Throw me some names. No. No, it's TikTok time. Say it. Are you serious right now? Yes.

How are you going to give me names? This is all we doing it right now? Exactly. Do this on your own. Be a mad. Grow up. All right. Give me prosingus.

Okay, it's not a horrible pick Poor Zing is a great team For my center I'm bullying Give me the what do they call him There's a nickname he has If I can't remember Your CTE kicking in

Yeah I know the player He had a funny nickname It's something tower Is a stifle tower? All right For my center Give me the most unexpected

Stretch 5 in in May of history Give me Brooke Lopez Oh Oh Splash Mountain Give me Splash Mountain There you go Yeah that's nice All right.

Isaac got this one. Isaac got it? Oh, your team is not better than mine. Let's get that straight. Oh, my gosh. Let's get that straight. Let's get that story.

Come is not to break his heart right now, bro. That's crazy. I have Stefan Dirk on my team. What are we talking about here? You got Stefan Dirk, but you also have Rip Hamilton. You lost. Rip Hamilton was a crazy pick for that point of the draft.

You picked a mid-range specialist? You picked Rip before. Reggie Miller? Oh, you insane, my boy. And I still got it. Reggie. What are we talking about? Nobody in the comments

is going to be like, oh, I would have picked for Hamilton. And that's fun. They don't know ball, all right? That's okay. That's fair. That's fair. Okay. Next up, we're going to do another tier list

because y'all guys loved when we did the point guard tier list last week. So we're going to do a shooting guard tier list. Okay. Let's put these NBA shooting guards into a tier list. First off, Jalen Brown. he just broke his face I forget the tears to be honest

he's right below S, A, B, C, D, F Yeah, I think he's A I think he, yeah, A Yeah, he's got to be A, he's not quite S but he earned his way out of B this year Yeah, yeah, right, A easily He's got to learn how to dribble though

That handles disgustingly wild Dribble consistent What about Donovan Mitchell? Is he S? S, S easy, S Okay, no question Him and D Book are neck and neck for best shooting guard in the NBA So he's got to be S

Yeah And we can throw Devin Booker in there as well as S too S easy I don't you have to think about that Desmond B I think Desmond B He's B but he's B plus Like he's really good Yeah

He's B though He's not he's not as A He's not as good as Jalen Brown yet Yeah he's not at all But like early season early season Desmond Bain Oh when he's averaging 25 points per game He's nuts before he got hurt

Yeah okay okay we can go B We can go beat that's what about Zach Levine He's kind of falling off a little bit I want to say B to be He's not C though He's not C plus Nah He's B's crazy

He's he's he's He's inconsistent His knees are coming in it Are coming out from under him And he's still not like a great Defender So like You see I'm sick as hell

When the next trade He's still in B but he's teetering He needs to step it up a little bit What did you say ma I say you're going to be sick as hell You're saying all that But you're going to be sick as hell With the next trade for him the summer

I know I'm going to be mad This is too much money Yeah I see I get you What about Terry Rozier I think Terry Rozier is a definition of C That's my guy Terry scary scary His bag is fantastic

He has a beautiful game to watch He's underrated as a shopmaker He's one of the best dribbler in the NBA It doesn't get that attention Absolutely the finesse The swag bro On and off the board crazy See yeah

I can't be biased In Terry Rosia talks Yeah I got it Okay Man loves him Some Terry That's crazy That's my guy

Scary But but Clay Thompson So Clay Thompson started slow this year But he's been better now Is he back and B? Yeah He's kind of back B

Okay We'll give him B Early season Clay Was like oh fuck Is he D But now he's B again Yeah Okay

Jalen Green Oh man I think you see He's C Bro you are too kind That man is D tier That man is not good Right now

That's why I'm putting him And C Man we're grading him As right now As a player He is not as good as Terry Rozier no

he's on the he's got to be he dropped 41 the other night though yeah that was two and a half weeks ago and he hasn't done shit since that was last night oh we did again last night yeah

oh okay remember we did a couple nights ago I'm a couple weeks ago whenever we had that video I say disappointing the next night hit 40 so so many 40 point games you can't even remember

put him in CDA these days man no that man's D tier that means D tier as fuck D I think you see Mo decide C Ah, let's go Let's go

Y'all just love Hoopers Yeah It's a pretty man too What can I say? Pause Okay Next up Let's have a little discussion

For a TikTok Okay Who are the most unguaritable players In the NBA right now All right so easy Who are the most unguarable players

In the NBA right now All right so easy KD is unguardable Yeah you shoot up everybody It got to be in there Yokic can't do I'm glad you said this Can't do anything

is definitely up there you can't throw doubles at him he'll dice you up at passing you can't guard a one-on-one he'll finesse you with footwork in the post there's no answer yeah it's so hard it's so irritating with yokech because he's slow as hell and he doesn't have a like and it don't matter he's gonna cook you regardless a flashy game in the traditional way and it's

yeah oh man at the park so he's so yeah exactly unguardable as hell step obviously yeah oh i don't know you don't know i don't know i don't know step belongs in this conversation Steph's one of the best offensive players for sure But I think you can scheme I don't know, I may not say that

No He says an entire Yeah, unguardable Okay Are we putting a look at one player and be like Yo do this to him If you're like he has a similar A similar effect

To Yok it's in my mind offensively Where he just influences everything Rather than just like one on one Of course he can do a long on one But yeah you're right Yeah he's impacted He shifts an entire defense Yeah yeah we'll put Curry in there

Because if you throw doubles at him And stop his moving off screen he's going to allow the offense to keep rolling and create open shots for others. So I'm with that. Yeah. Are we putting Braun in there naturally? Oh, yeah, for sure. Easy.

Yeah, he's Braun. Like, come on. It sounds like we're just blaming the best players in the NBA. Don't win you. Yonis, I guess, too. Fuck, yeah, whatever. So to take us away from the most, so aside from the top five players in the world, Kyra Irving, he's in there, right?

Oh, easily. Not putting Kyrie. What? No, I'm not. Why? Why? Why? why what what because i could i could put i could put a little bit of length on on karee that i can

i can i can i can i can slow him down i can also get kairi to um to kind of just go down down a rabble i think that there's a there's a tier of guys that i wouldn't put them as unguardable because i feel like i can get them to guard themselves and with kairi i think that he fits in you like he's bent simmons what the hell no i feel you i feel you i feel you all we got to do was show Kyrie a Pfizer logo and he's losing his mind. Game within the game, honestly. Exactly. Don't let me show him Jonah Hill.

It's over. Oh, hell nah. Oh, hell no. Cut that. Oh, my God. I'm not getting that. That's going to TikTok. That's crazy.

Bro, we try to keep... That's crazy. That's crazy. Oh, my goodness. That's funny as fuck. So I don't even know where to go with that. Is Joel Embed in there? No.

Yeah, like Janus and Jason Tatum, they're popping out in there. Yeah, I won't put Jason Tatum in there, but I would put Embed in there because he's just, there's just so much overwhelming in my mind. No. I think, I don't, I don't think Joel Embed is, is unguarded. I think Joel Embed is another, is another guy where you can bait Joel Embed into settling for threes all day. Okay. I think, I think if, like, obviously, if all of these top guys decide, like, I'm getting 40 tonight, then, like, they're going to go in and get 40. But, like, on a consistent basis in terms of unguardableness, no.

Okay. Okay. You can bait him for sure. Let's do the next segment. It's got it. We've had two more segments left. Let's go. Now, let's do a game of 20 questions first.

Let's get one of this, got a video of that. Okay. You want me to do the player this time? Yeah, I did a lot. last time okay i'll do it this time yeah sure who do i want to do this is gonna be funny okay y'all got 20 questions to get the NBA player i'm thinking of okay is this is this person a front court player yes okay okay okay cool was he drafted after 2015 no okay okay is this person considered a good shooter?

No, I don't think so. I don't think anybody would say that. Okay. Is this person light skin counting? A little bit. It's a little carmally. Carmelie. He's lighter than Donovan, but he's not light scan.

He's not Drake. Okay. Is this person's primary team in the Eastern Conference? what's his primary team he has one famous team in the east one famous team in the west one famous team in the east one famous one famous one famous what's he donovan this is a question to you was he a front core player yes he's a front goal player okay okay um is this player an all-star yes an all-star okay i should have clarified i need any more clarification on that Thank.

Why you say that, Donovan? Because, like, he could have been an all-star in any point in his career or, like, if he's an all-star like this year. Okay. Was he drafted after 2010? No. No. Okay. Is this player still in the league?

No. No. Has this player ever been memed out before? Yes. Yes. Has he appeared in... Any like... You said memed out, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Has he been on like ESPN or anything of that nature? Has he been on TV? Yeah. Yes. Is this Paul Pierce?

This is not Paul Pierce. That's pretty good guess though. And he was an all-star. Okay. Not Paul Pierce. Okay. He's an old. He's old, Donovan.

This is his motherfucker's old. And he can't shoot... He can't shoot. I forget about that. Yeah, he wouldn't be concerned. One famous team in the East, one famous team in the West. So, Donovan, do your Central, whatever the fuck you do, bro. Do your divisions.

No. Don't also say questions every time. We always do, like, keep it interesting. Yeah. Bro. This is our strategy. Trying to hate. This is about strategy.

This is entertainment. Did this person play in the 1990s? Yes. Oh, my God. He played in the 90s. Okay, well, the hell's going to guess this Okay, man, that's a terminal 13-year-old brain He's an all-star

He has a famous team in the east, famous team in the west Okay Got band to the east Band of the West, rock style Has he ever been in a dunk contest? I don't know the answer to that So I won't count that Okay

Okay, okay, okay I just don't know So that's like in the year Donovan Has this person won a championship? no no championship what i don't feel like with the what the feel like i have i feel like i have it how many questions are we at isa 13 i want to this dude with the teams that he's been on did they have read on it yes one yeah is it scotty pimping this is not scotty pippin

scottie pippin scottie pippin as a championship dingus oh fuck okay there's a lot of them Okay, I'm going to take a guess, and then we have four left to go. Okay. Is this Charles Barkley? Bro. This is Charles Barkley. Ah, okay. Man, the TV question, that was a great thing, Donovan.

Let's go. Did he win a championship? I was like, famously not. He does not win a championship. Damn. That was great. That was great. We still never lost.

We've always won. Yeah, that's beautiful. Let's keep this shit going. Let's go. One more set. One more TikTok and us and we're out of here. Lit.

We're going to talk about all-time fantasy duos. So, which NBA duo would be better? Which NBA duo would be... I can't talk. Which NBA duo would be better? Which NBA duo would be better?

Stefan Wilt or Braun and Kobe? Talk about, time about. Before we start, Mo, you are disgusting. You are chewing on your routine. like your step curry you're nasty put that back in your mouth bro oh are you keep it in your mouth please please gross a bad habit you are not Wardell please I'll be I'll be off these in a minute it's a bad habit it's a business line man god damn that's hilarious

my case all right oh my god all right all right all right recoup step and wilt or braun and Kobe who best tough that's that's that's so that's that's so tough. Give me Brian and Kobe. For the culture. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, bro.

Just that wing duo, just having that playmaking and scoring together. That's crazy. There's no weakness with that wing duel, but their weaknesses for a big and point duo. So give me that wing duo. Okay. Okay.

That makes sense. Michael Jordan and Derek Rose or Hakeem and James Hardin. Give me Hakeem and James Hardin. Fax, bro. I know he's the. go, but Hakeem and Hardin is a crazy Picking Roll duo. What? James Hardin is cooking Derek

Rose. Annihaling and Derek Rose. He's tearing his other ACL with a crossover. It's not like, it's not close. James Hardin and Hakeem is disgusting. I get it if you want to pick. Hakeem is top 10 all time too. Like, let's please respect Hachian.

That is true. Facts. You got one of the best offensive guards of all time, the best defensive big of all time, but also has a bag. And I get it. M.J. is a goat. But I don't think Rose holds up his end of the bargain here I don't go fuck about I don't care about none of that I just want to see D Rose and MJ who strictly for vibes bro I don't care about that greatness stuff

Give me D Rose and MJ Real hoops Let's talk about it On his ball don't stop brain Yeah God I hate that guy So let's go

Alan Iverson and Joelle Embed I said it weird Alan Iverson and Joelle Embed or Janice and Ray Allen. Oh my goodness. This is so, so, so tough. You give Yonis the best wing shooter of all time besides Clay? Oh, yeah.

I think I'm going to go ahead and say Ray Allen and Yonis, bro. Like, they're just... I think I might take that too. I think I might take that too. Prime Ray Allen had handles. He could actually drive to the basket more than people thought. I think that combination is nasty. Yeah, that's spacing.

One of the best spacers with maybe the best. finisher of all time crazy yeah though we're AI and joel and bead is insane bucket that is that is that it that is from a big to point combo that is easily one of the deepest bags i've ever seen in my life it's ridiculous give me honest but shout out that duo for real yeah highlights for years bro cp3 and zion williamson or devon booker and charles barkley it's purely because I want to stay consistent in my I don't care about Devin Booker give me CP3 and Zion Williamson

that that listen CP3 is already a pick and roll master if he's throwing lobs to Zion and can throw my god five feet away from the basket he could get that that's disgusting bro young CP3 was so fast such a good shooter such a good passer oh my give him Zion oh yeah that's That's it right there.

That's it right there. Yeah, I'm going to have to roll with that. Y'all said it for me. Yeah. Lob City juiceed up. Yeah. God. Kauai and Blake Griffin versus KD.

and Jason Kidd. I think Kauai and Blake Griffin have more juice. Bro, give me KD. and Jason Kidd. Give me Kevin Durant, this amazing bucket getter with an amazing passer who can cover up his flaws.

Easy. Thank you. Blake Griffin was soft for autumn years. I don't want He Prime Blake Griffin Was soft Was nasty

And he didn't jump over a car He jumped over the hood of the car It's much less impressive No we're talking about It was a marking scheme Blake Griffin That was prime Blake Griffin right there

Who could do it all Give me him Give me him and Kaw This is revisionist history Blake Griffin was never that good What are we talking about? He was nice in Detroit's first year What?

Let's not talk about that Come on now Don't make me call Zach Randolph He will bully All day Okay, okay You got it Luca and Dirk

versus Tatum and Larry Bird Luca and Dirk man Luca and Dirk's crazy Yeah Luca and Dirk is insane Like listen Luke and Dirk is nuts But Tatum and Bird That's like the best wing combo ever

I think You have the inside scoring You have the inside and outside scoring from Dirk And then Luca who can make Absolutely any pass possible Luca's Passing ability

is the one thing that stands out among all four of them Even though that Bird Was a great passer Even though that Bird Was a great passer Lucas is on a different level

And so I'll take him I'll take them Yeah Literally unguardable pick and roll Imagine what people The Mavs hoped They have some insane Pick and Roll with KP

and Luca Now give him the best possible version of KP times 10 Incredible Facts Yeah I'm taking that one as well Luca and Derg all the way I said that was our last segment

but I forgot we have one more we're going to quickly do a TikTok version of the trades real quick we're going to grade them from each team so we'll fly through these real fast let's give these I want you to give these NBA trades a grade

I should just do 1 to 10 I want you to rate these NBA trades 1 through 10 okay how's the best What do I usually say for ratings? What do you rate these trade on scale on 1 to 10? I want you to rate these NBA trades based on how good they were for the team.

Okay. The Lakers three-team deal to get DeAngelo Russell and Jared Vanderbill and Malik Beasley. That was a nine. That was a nine. I think the only thing that could have been better is if they got an actual star. But like they got Russ out the paint.

They got actual rotational players. They got some shooting. That's a win. Shifting. They freed LeBron James and the shackles of Russell Westbrook. that enough is get you an 8 at DeAngel Russell Russell at a wing stopper

at a shooter gotta be a 9 Yeah I feel like this is a 10 Because you did all of this A lot of people forget DeAngel Russell was a former all-star You did all of this Which is getting rid of one pick

This is easily a time True Getting three rotation players For one pick is kind of crazy Yeah 10 Okay No fuck I'll give him a 10 too

It's a great move I'm with you All right The Warriors trading James The Warriors trading James Wiseman for picks and those picks turning into Gary Payton. That's a straight five.

It's a straight five. It's a very average deal. You gave up a sunken cost in James Wiseman to go get your guy back. You brought him home. Everything is okay. Yeah, I agree with you. I'll rock with you.

I'll give a five. On the surface, it looks crazy to trade your former number two overall pick for a guy you just let walk, but he's not number two overall pick anymore. He's been washed. He's giving them nothing. Now they have something from Gary Payton.

Yeah, he's going to walk. He's going to win. he's going to be a Wong Don Tiger Wong Tong Tiger Five second round picks Just to get a guy That you had last year again Who's not moving the needle for you

Like that That's a nasty worker man Gary Payton's like that All right James Wiseman was a waste of cap He was a waste of space He was stealing money from the Golden State Warriors Facts

Facts Facts facts True Shout out to him I hope he does well with the Pistons But thank God he's out of Golden State next one Kevin Durant to the sons

That's a 10 That's a 10 You got Kevin Durant And you didn't have to give up DeAndre 8 and you were able to get A top What five, seven player in the world One of the most unguardedable players

In the league That's a win That's a 10 Easy I'm gonna give an 8 or 9 They're gonna be incredible But you had to give up so much To get them

And you're putting so much It's Kevin Durant though And you're putting so much faith into two 34 year olds that are injury prone it can work out and they can championship that happens great but there's some amount of risk involved I can't give it a 10. You have four attempts at this

Kevin Durant experience and I'm taking that compared to whatever type of success that you have with McAWRidge's old. We don't know for four years they'll both be effective in championship level who cares about CP3 you have Devin Booker and Kevin Durant for the next three years true At the end of the day

this game is based off gambling and Phoenix doesn't make the right gamble Yeah, it's the right gamble for sure. That's why it's an eight. It's not, I'm not giving it at five. It's just there's enough downside that it can't be a perfect trade. Five.

Fair enough. Okay. Kyrie Irving to the Mavs. I guess this is like a six. This is a volatile-ass question, Isaac. It's a six. You get, it's a positive trade because you bring a star in for not a lot of, for not a lot of capital. But at the same time, I don't think that you necessarily get,

better this year you definitely get better it's i'll give it i'll give it i might walk yeah that's the thing there's a risk involved because he's volatile and he might walk and just completely tank you because you lost all the assets for nothing but there's a world where everything goes smooth with him the culture makes him stay in line and then you have an all-star that you got for one first round

pick that could be enough to get put that could be enough to put them over the top and let them win a championship so i'll give them an eight because they have that upside three different fan bases have said the exact same thing that you've had the calves, the Celtics, and the Nets, and all those worlds failed. That is, that trade is a fine, bro. I don't put no trust in that, man. Hell no. That's true.

Nobody wanted to get a risk on. I promise you was not charactering. He's the same likelihoods of a lightning bolt striking me in my head and killing me. But then again, this is the best chance to have to get Luca a real star, so I'm not mad of them for taking it. Easy five. Six. Okay. The Raptors getting Yakopodal.

four it's boring it's boring they traded him away a long time ago they should have traded other people away and again it's jacoperto he's cool but come on now we should have been doing something else of four man now you're being too generous this is a zero a zero purely because they pumped faked us we thought they're going to make it fun they're going to trade their players make this trade deadline more popping than it already is and they bought and didn't trade anybody yeah what are they doing I hate this team. It's so boring. How much better do they expect to get from this trade?

Do you want to make the playoffs? You probably could now, but. They want to be the 10 seats so bad. Yeah. I've never seen anyone fight to be so bad, bro. Trade OG, trade Gary Trent, do something. The Chicago Bulls will give them a run for their money any day of the week. They love that.

That's a fucking mid-off. They love mid-off. Mid-off. Yeah. All right, last one, Mo Baba going to the Lakers. 10 that's like seven i would say seven maybe maybe seven oh no maybe eight maybe eight i like mobile i'll give an eight yeah it was pat bevin a second round pick they had they were too small and they had that contract and didn't give up any real draft equity that matters to get a big who

can play next to anthony davis spread the floor block shots it's a perfect fit speak on it yeah absolutely you couldn't ask for any more when it comes to a trade like that where you give a little to nothing and this could be a high reward pick at the end of the day we could yeah you He gives them youth, spacing, defense. He's on the team next year with a two-year contract. I don't see what they could have did better with that second round pick. W. This is easily a 10.

Big old W. Put some fucking respect on Rob Polink's name. Yeah. Shout out of Shaq Wes. Relax. That was just a sound by for the TikTok. I don't care. But now I can confidently say to you that this episode is over.

If you're still here, comment, put some respect on Rob Polink's name. No, no, no, no. No. Comment that. Comment that episode's over. Cut off. Bye.