The Deep 3 Podcast - Tier Listing How Fun Every NBA Team Is To Watch | Ep. 189

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

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Mo, what is the most fun thing you did this week with no NBA basketball on the TV during the All-Star break? The most fun thing that I did this week, probably eat. Specifically, I had souffle pancakes at Chinatown. Top two, I'm a real eater, man. Okay. And the only crayons. Mo spent his All-Star break being an eater. With that being said today, since there is no games going on, we're going to stay on the discussion.

We just opened up. We're going to talk about the most fun teams to watch in the NBA when games are actually on. And more specifically than that, we are going to put every single NBA team into a tier list based on how fun they are. You see these tiers. We have must-see TV. Pretty fun time. At least you have stars. Young, fun, and ass.

Young, but not even that fun. Low-key depressing and torture. Perfect. Yep. And you get to the bottom of just how fun every team is to watch in 2026. And again, nothing to do with the quality of the team, nothing to do with their long-term standing, short-term standings. Just fun watchability. All right.

Okay. No stats on none, bet. My type of conversation. His vibes? Oh, yeah, let's do it. There we go. Cue the intro music. We're throwing it back.

Whoa. That's crazy. He was bragging. I hope you just said. The cranium is crazy. Oh, my God. Thank you. All right.

Crown eaters rejoice. First team up. Let's start with some of the heavy hitters. New York Knicks. How fun are they to watch in 2026? This current version of the team this year. I don't think they fit either to top two categories. They haven't been a complete jolly time to watch.

And also, they're not on a musty TV in my opinion. Definitely not a jolly good time. I would not describe them that way. That's fair. That's fair. In past years, they might have been teetering on jolly. When the vibes were an all-time high, shit's not jolly right now.

No, I'm not going to lie. Two years ago, that was musty TV. Okay. Like when Brunson was first doing it And then even after O.G. And Randall had gotten hurt And Julie's

And Brunson was going crazy. That was must see TV. Right now, listen, some nights, low key depressing. It's not like they're not, they don't fit into,

and like you have to make that jump because they're not young and so they don't fit in those two categories. Sounds like they're the clear. It's either at least you have stars. At least you got stars. That sounds like the clear thing there. You have Brunson who was a fun time to watch

For some people. I think some people would say he's not fun. Actually, no I'm thinking about it. Some people don't like watching Brunson. This is a foulbiter. A lot of people don't like watching Kat for various reasons. And he's having a bad year at that. They just might not be fun.

I don't think that they're super fun right now. At times they are loki depressing. That was the right way to phrase it. Recent times they've kind of broken out of that. So do you want to give him Ben for the doubt that going into the All-Star break, they got out of the right, it's not depressing at this moment? Maybe, but they also lost to the pace of the pace of it. going into the

All-Star break. Okay, so at least you have stars. But you guys have been good as of like, you're like, I don't know, eight and two or something like over the last 10. Okay, I think ultimately we go at least you have stars. Exactly. They're teetering on low-key depressing at all times,

but more often than not, I enjoy watching Brunson. This is our list. Fuck the people that don't like watching him. I enjoy watching him. You do? Yeah, it's fun. I like Brunson.

I didn't say anything about Carleton Towns, but I do enjoy watching Brunson. Yeah, I'm just asking about Brunson. Brunson's fun. Even outside of that scene, Josh Hartfly like wall to wall to wall. at times is hilarious to see that Jose Alvarado now too which adds another layer of just like storyline and fun too you got another Puerto is he Puerto Rican yeah Puerto Rican in the

fucking building bro this is the most New York team ever it's fun as hell yeah it might be a jolly time now that Jose Alvarado is there alone for me but I'll slow down I'll give him more time maybe maybe maybe we'll see how many minutes Jose Alvarado gets that's like I'd dream be so high in the building now that could be fun in a strange way his interview clips are funny yeah he's a good personality in the door I don't know if he'll play but he's a good personality. Yeah, we factoring in the off the off-court interviews with the, with the ranking. That's an element. They do have a podcast on their side. It can be. Is that podcast fun? Yes. As a very least, it's fun. It is certainly fun. It's very interesting. Honestly, it might be a good jolly time.

We'll say, I'm talking to myself into that category. Listen, there's ups and downs. We can leave them at least you have stars. That's a nice middle ground. All right. All right. I'll slow on. Slovak. Milwaukee bucks. 2026 bucks with the will-day won't day of Janus, him saying, I'm here for life to do an interview the other day where he said maybe if we're up to me i would have already left maybe if we can't win a championship i will leave i don't know keeps teetering both sides you shut your mouth if he's playing if he's playing it's it's not loki depressing it is depressing if he's not playing it's torture so how much do you want to count for off-the-court stuff torture 100% it's just torture yeah yeah because that is it's not even like a Milwaukee

buck's singular issue it is an NBA wide like you are you are kind of holding the league hostage. Be so does it torture? Yes. These boys are ass, though. These boys are ass. All right. My bad.

If I wasn't coming through the mic. Yeah, the Milwaukee Bucks are cheeks. Let me say it with some base. You stink. No, it's torture because we have to do with the rigmarole of will he get traded, will he not. We have to deal with the Bucks fans saying, Shams is making things up. You are no longer a respected reporter.

You are fabricating things entirely. And then we get quotes to the show he's clearly not. making it up out of nowhere and they convince us that you were just misinterpreting Janus, but then Janus is just enough to fuel their fire some more. Overall, we're all suffering because of this. Bro. Also, who are we watching? Kevin, Cam Thomas.

Cool. Cam Thomas is, you know. Cam, Cam raises it up, but a majority of that roster and some of those guys, it's like, I don't really want to watch you play basketball right now. Yeah, I feel you. It's too much. You love me. You love me, you love me, you love me, you love me not.

You love me, you love me not for these fans. I feel bad for them. It's clearly torture. The reality is, it's not even, that's how they're interpreting it. The reality is, I love you, but not enough. It's been consistent the whole time. It's been a through line of I love you, but not enough. And they continue to pull themselves in either directions.

Toronto Raptors. Feel good story of the year. Everyone expecting to be around a playing level team. They've been steady four or five seed all year. Good team. Two all-stars, actually. Are they the most fun all-stars in the league? No.

I love Scotty Barnes. I wouldn't say he's the top tier of fun players. I don't know what to do with this one. They're not fun. I don't like, they're not, they're definitely not in my top 10 of like most fun teams in the NBA to watch.

Okay, so if you're nerdy. Do they have to be in the top 10 though? They're just fun. Having a good time, good vibes. You think that they're fun. Yeah. Word.

I don't, I like, okay, so I'm not going to call you like a liar, but I don't think that, I don't think that they're in your upper tier of of like super fun yeah no i don't think so but they're not just oh they just got stars i mean they're a fun watch i think they're young but not even that fun yeah i agree with you uh i mean

not not even that fun implies there is some funness but not not a lot yeah so they're not ass that tier right there young fun and ass is for the young rebuilding young cores aren't good but we know they're a fun time um this seems fun i like them i like watching scotty barnes Ingram, you know, everyone has their opinions on Ingram and like how good he actually is. It's fun to watch a tall guy getting jumpers off to some degree, especially when it's hitting. He's not unfun, you know? It's not like it's, like he shoots three sometimes. He's not like it's a old DeMarreauze.

Yeah, it's not an old DeMarre situation where he kind of lost athleticism. It wasn't assumed three and he was frustrating. Ingram is fun. To criticism in him is when you turn your brain on too much and you start convincing yourself he's not worth certain types of efficiency and whatnot. But he's fun. Some young players, they run some smart exes and O's dark was a fun coach. They get some fun defensive schemes. If we, if we nailed this down between the tiers,

the three tiers that they would be in would be young, but not even that fun. At least you have stars and then Jolly Good Time. I don't think they fit into at least you have stars because I think they have a star. I don't think Brandon Ingram's a star. He's like, he's a really good player. He's not a star.

Here he is the all-star game. Also, Fugazi is getting kind of pro-bole. I'm not, I'm not going to put him in that, in that category. So then it would either be for me, Jolly good time or young but not even that fun.

I think especially when it comes to the vibes, we have to incorporate into this. And the fact they're better than expected. Scotty Barnes is a jolly good time. It's by himself. That's a big carry job. Exactly. Your best player embodies the tone of your team.

He has jolly as a motherfucker. I think they probably get jolly good time. Him and him and CB are carrying. Yes. That's, I was waiting for someone to mention CNB. You mean, you quickly too, is like not a terrible watch at all. He's bouncing back. Yeah, he's like when he's on, he's fun as hell to watch.

So I'm okay with Jolly good time. Jolly good time. I would not hate watching them. Everybody has a different path to their tears. They're on the core product. It's like fun, not amazing, but all the vibes and the narrative and the personalities

uplift them a little bit. Yeah, plus Brandon Ingram, my soul's once in a while, watch him get into his bag. It's another layer of fun specifically because this team has been missing that for a long time. When they got Glorilla,

they got Gorilla. Panda her in the sidelines sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes. Sometimes. times crossing country borders having Glorilla

on the sidelines it's fun how's that not fun that's why you watch yeah good Glorilla fan how many Galarra songs you got

on your on your five five damn I feel like you have to have 10 that's not a big fan

that's a medium fan at best that's an entry level fan let me hear your best yeah glow album album

yeah glow album's yeah glow Oh, my God. Chicago Bulls. Torture. Torchew. Loki depressing, honesty, not even torture.

Torture's like there's no end to the tunnel. And you can tell me that there's no end to their tunnel specifically. But at least they got guys there. Like, Rob Dilliam's there. Modis is there. It's not like a complete wash like the Milwaukee Boys where you have no guy swage. Okay. We're dealing with like history here.

we're dealing with a lineage of trauma for the Bulls and we know what they've been doing for years. I feel like the suffering and the depression has stacked up year after year after year. We can't escape what we know the Bulls are year after year. And I feel like that has to impact this team. I think that's torture. I think one, just for us personally in this room,

we have to go out of our way to watch the Bulls because we can't easily watch them on League Pass. You're right. And then, yeah, I'm going to go torture. are some moments now that they have the new players where now it's just low-key depressing because you see a lot of people that the bulls clearly bought low on. And so like, and every single one of those players is like, we had high hope for you. We had high hopes for you.

We were rooting for you. And now we just have to see you try to like do this like last chance you. Last chance you's fun on Netflix for like 10 episodes. When it starts to get into the end and you're like, dang, this guy is not doing what he needs to do to get back to D1. He's like, come on, man. Then it starts to get depressing. That's where the bulls are at right now.

Last chance you used a perfect way to describe them right now. I didn't even thought about that. It's last chance guard you. They're giving everybody a chance for reclamation. Okay. We can't negate the generational trauma of the bulls. So they get into torture. If we didn't know who they were, they might be low-key depressing.

But sadly, we do know who they are. Minnesota Timberwolves. Anthony Edwards, Julius Randall, Rudy Gaubert, having a DP-WI-level season. Jamie Daniels shooting the ball well. No guard play to be found until they brought in Iowa to Sumu, who's probably going to change their lives, but we haven't seen it a whole lot yet with the trade deadline just happening.

How do we feel? Not going to lie, for me personally, I view them now as like, they're getting closer and closer as each day goes on to a tier one team in the Western conference. I view them like probably right below the Denver Nuggets. And also, most must see TV player in the goddamn world right now outside of maybe Wembe is Anthony Edwards, seeing how he's been able to get to his bag across all over the floor, be more efficient inside the paint, be still like a fuck.

and 40% three-point shooter as well, have all the hezies in his bag in the world. Rudy Go Berris having a good defensive season as well. The guard play is some of the best has been around in front in a very long time. Damn their musty TV for me personally. I don't know about that last sentence yet, but I agree entirely. Hey, man. Ant Carey's hard. I always been hooping it so far.

Yeah, he has been telling me a few games. Aunt Carries hard. That like, how far does one amazing to watch Star take you on this list? Can I alone get you mustsy TV? Very high. That can a long issue musty TV? Extremely hot. If Wemby was on the Bulls, they would be minimum jolly guitar.

Well, Wembe doesn't count. Wembe is the outlier of an outliers. Even if Ant was on the Bulls, they would be a jolly guitar. Yeah, that'd be tough. Now, we'd have to obviously consolidate some of the guard stuff. But with the wolves, I do think, like, Aunt carries, they're a good team. I think that they're must see TV because they are a team that now has playoff expectations. You've been to the conference finals in back-to-back years.

the Western Conference is looking for people who can go up against the Oklahoma City Thunder. We kind of think the Spurs can do it. We know that the Nuggets can do it, but they're, you know, in this in between, but they have Yokic. We're waiting for the wolves to take this next step and watching them on a night-to-night basis and seeing if they can do that, that aspect is there. And then there's sometimes where if you just like chaos and you just like car crashes, the Timbles will implode like nobody else. And they, and you might be able to watch that life. That's a good point. They're going to have their ups and downs.

which is... It's compelling at the... Very true. It's like a drama. Like, they're going to have their ups and downs. You're watching Ozark. He's going to... Marty's going to get away with it every now and then and find a way to get himself out of his depth.

And in the next episode, a new mob boss in the coming. A new Mexican is to come in and break his nose that we don't see coming. And we're like, another one. And that's another player's only meeting for the Timber Wolves. There's always another one around the corner. So I would say must see TV for the wolves. Complete cinema, man. Okay.

Two words. Must see TV. Timberwolves, you wore our first ones in this tier. There you go. So. New Orleans Pelicans. Torture. Torture.

Torture, man. Torture. Yeah. Does Zion carry to low-key depressing? Dude, Zion has been the most torturous part for a lot of this. I think they probably deserve to be low-key-depressing, but knowing the fact that, like, yo, we traded for Jordan Poole didn't give him too much for him. Now he's not even getting into it.

I think it's low-key-depressing, but we don't have a tear for that. Torture, it's not quite torture in the way that it's, like, influxing. thing pain on the rest of us because what do we care? It's depressing though to be this bad and have your pick. Like that alone deserves the word depressing for the one thing. That's torture. If you just pay you don't have your pick, that's torture. That's not depressing.

But it's not torture to us. It's not like we don't care. But also there's solid players that could go elsewhere. And at this point, Joe Dumars is holding them hostage. And it is, it is torture to see, to see Trey Murphy be as good as he is and know that there are other contenders around the league that could have used his skill set. And Joe Dumars with a team this bad and not having his pick is like, no, I'm just going to keep him. I like it.

We can see potentially what Herb Jones can come back and give a contender. And Joe Dumars is like, no, you play for us. So I think that there are a certain piece of the roster where you look at them and you see the potential of them in a winning situation and it messes up. It messes up the vibe for everything. I would put the pelicans in torture. That sounds like the Bulls West. I don't know. even worse than the Bulls West, honestly.

It's more, so like long-term I look is worse than Bulls West in some ways to no pick. But in terms of just like wasting a bunch of talent Yeah. Being middle of the pack and just, yeah. It's like wasting high-end talent. We got the first Zion healthy season in a while.

Does that do anything for us? He had the terrible start. He's been more respectful as a late, I think. Still, it's like a neutered version of what we know Zion can be production-wise. As always, partly because the team, partly because of him not taking any steps forward in his developments.

Where does Zion? fall in all this and the watchability. It's a small thing. I don't know if y'all have watched the Pelicans and Spurs games specifically. Yeah. Those have been so entertaining to see Zion and Wemby go head to head. Also, Zion be cooking Wemby. I don't know if y'all know, bro.

He be cooking, Wemby, attacking him. He certainly tries. He certainly tries. He certainly tries. He wants it bad. He wants those highlights. Zion hasn't been abysmal to watch. We've got to factor in everybody's star player. Hasn't been great.

Like, we know he can be. It's been a mixed bag all season. Trey Murphy's had some moments as of late. he's been heeding up. That's fun to watch. Herb is herb. I don't know what to do with that part of it. Derek Queen and fears as young players

certainly been some entertaining factor there. I'm almost feeling like the highs are kind of balancing some of the lows. And I don't know. I just don't feel like it's quite torturous. Like the Bulls have nothing to look at, nothing fun. The Bucks are an active,

just stain on our entertainment factor. They're mixed bag. No, I think you're underrating like the Bulls fun, which is like you have a lot of like high flying things going on. And why aren't they torture? I don't think they should be interested. I don't want to put them in low-key depressing as well.

Because of like Jaden Ivey and all those other guys. Jay-Nive is not fun. The idea of J-Nive is fun. Now, I will say. There's Rob Dayman, I have too. But now, I will say. You want to want the idea. Someone being fun.

Listen, it is my most bad as what else. Listen. He's not fun right now because Billy Donovan will let him be fun. I can ring off more names if you want. It's not a bulls conversation. I lost that conversation a long time ago. With the New Orleans Pelicans specifically, it's not fun seeing them

like actively trying to be good but also seeing them really be bad they have no reason to be like bad at all they recently just took out fears from the starting lineup and now they're running no point guard anymore that's torture you're not even developing your own talent for fucking what I don't think it's quite torture it sounds like I'm out of voted either way

there's more to them that is entertaining like Derek Queen alone the early season stretch we had and watching him develop to me gets them out of torture Torture have no redeeming qualities, and they have some. And there are games where, you know, they don't play defense. So, yeah, they're bad team. So, yeah, their bad team, they don't defend. You can get some, some close games or some high scoring games watching them.

And, you know, some people can go in. You're going to see 125. You're going to see buckets against them. Honestly, I feel like they go in with either young, fun, and ass, which they are ass. If they're not fun enough, young, but not that fun. But I can see the Loki depressing part, not having a pick. But I just wouldn't let the pick thing completely negate all the on-court players

that are kind of fun. We can go with, I agree. So I do agree with you, torture. But if we're going to, we're going to put something else, low-key depressing, because- It just feels like low-key. I know.

It should just be depressing. Okay, well, let's treat it like it's just depressing. I just don't want us to bog down the torture thing too much. It's really what it's about is like, let's make sure we know the teams that are torture are really torture. All right.

Ain't nothing low-key about it. It's depressing. That's why to be it's probably young but not that fun. Okay. Because they are young. But if you want to go torture, I'm not going to be the only one to stop it if everybody else wants to go torture. Yeah.

For low-key depressing and torture, those are the teams that are actually, like, not fun for me. Like teams as a whole, but like young but not that fun, I can see the silver lining in them. Yeah. Please do not raise them. I will say.

So don't put them there? No. Okay. I think, I think that I don't think the pelicans are fun in general. Now, see, now that I will say I disagree with because they are going to give us some points to go and they can put out some points to themselves. Zahn is not like the most not fun player to watch the league.

And they have an entertaining enough ecosystem. They're going to feed their queen. Yeah, they're not horribly unfund to watch. It's not a gross product. It is a gross product in terms of like expectations and everything. But if we put that behind us and say, okay, if I didn't know their GM was fucking senile, if I didn't know their long-term feature was absolutely fucking horrendous, there's some young entertaining players.

Yeah, you put them up against like all the ass other terrible teams in the league. They're probably going to be the most fun terrible team. The Pelicans fans, I'm fighting for your honor to be bad, but fun. Three levels of ass. It's an ass off right here. If we're going to say they're not low-key depressing because they are high-key-depressing while still being fun, sounds like young but not even that fun is kind of the... No, also...

Look at depressing it is. Also, they're... What's his name? They're color analysts. is. Listen, sometimes he's on, sometimes he'll be annoying you sometimes.

That's a good point. I watch a lot of games on mute, so I don't even factor that in. He's, yeah, he, sometimes, like, he'll be on the mic thinking he's the coach.

Okay. He's like, he got to realize. Houston Rockets, we should have got to them sooner. After the KD files leaked, and we now have a new team that was already kind of

up and down in the course of season, no point guards because Prevamp Valid is hurt. You lose Stephen Adams, you lose your offensive rebunning edge that gave them a lot of fun. Now we have the looming locker room drama that might become something

after Kevin Durant called Jabari Smith mentally incapable and Shangoon a bad star how do we feel? You could tell me they're musty TV or you could tell me they're low-key depressing. I'm for any of them. They're still too good to be low-key depressing unless we really want to factor in the KD files. Honestly, no, they're too good to be low-key depressing

but knowing that they're not like upper echelon contenders like we thought they were that's low-key depressing. Because it's like okay, like the whole amendment thing has happened and he's progressed in certain ways, but on ways that you want to see. Reed Shepard every single time they play like an elite level offense. They are always going at him. And then you have just this weird ass, like, you have this weird ass array of one-way players

who are doing one thing really well, but don't completely fill up the other half of the court. So it's hard. It's depressing to get Kevin Durant and expect that to be the cherry on top to make you go from two-seed last year to best in the West potentially. Yeah. And you just not be that. And it's depressing that. you know you're not going to be that because of pregnant lead injury.

And then Stephen Adams injury too as well, which is like not nukes our offensive identity. You're still a good offensive rebounding team. But when that's your bread and butter, you live and die my seat and Stephen Adams, which is an insane thing to say. Yeah, it's a low-key depressing situation. That's why for me they would be at least you have stars. Yes, because at least you do. You have everything you're saying is correct. The expectations are not being met.

The offense is not living up to a championship standard. At this point, we don't think that anything is happening. at least you have Kevin Durant on court to give you some type of decent offense. And at least you have Kevin Durant off the court to give us all something to talk about and to look at going into each one of these games. And let's talk about that. How do we factor this in? Because we cannot ignore the KD files and all this.

He responded to it on Twitter yesterday. He was asked about it. He said there is a Twitter account by the name of Get Higher 77 that is alleged to be yours and his messages talking about your current and past teammates. Is this true? Do you own this account? He says, I understand you have to ask that. I'm not here to get to Twitter nonsense.

My teammates know what it is. We've been locked in the whole season. First of all, you're always here for Twitter nothing. You were tweeting, this started because on the morning of the fucking All-Star game, you got into an argument about the trophy design of the Larry O'Brien. And now you're not here for nonsense. Okay, buddy. Sure.

Minus 50% team chemistry, dog. Jabari Smith posted a story with a song and him and Kevin Durant were on the picture, basically saying we're locked in where we'll get over it like we're all good of course you're gonna say that time will tell how how locked in they can really be do you think he actually like addressed that in the locker room hey yes yeah what do you think you said my bad y'all got in my feels a little bit too much y'all y'all know I rock for y'all my bad yeah i think he started gaslighting the whole team y'all y'all think that's me maybe you the problem oh that's what you think of me oh okay that's the repetition so you think

I talk shit about you, huh? Okay. So there's a lot about you and your perception of me as a man. This is deflection. I'm not going to lie. It's a good strategy. That would work? That might work for him.

Comfy strategy. Coffee strategy. If that would work, Jabari, it may have been. This is meta. If you get elite DMs put out there where burner is, the meta. Oh, my gosh. You are 40 years old, bro. Talking about the meta.

Come on. So how does it impact things? Going forward, we're going to view them through that light. It almost makes them more entertaining from our perspective. Right now, they have a game tonight against the Charlotte Hornets. Must see TV. That's one of the first games on today. I'm tapping it.

Yeah, they're not going to because of how toxic they might be. We're going to watch a pending car crash potentially. Must see TV. Let's do it. We're paying on their downfall from now on. Brooklyn Nets. I forgot they even existed. Smokey depressing.

I guess. No, they're just young, but not that fun. They just are what they are. They're doing a rebuild. They have a lot of rookies. They have their picks. They're going to keep being bad and getting new good players in the door. They're just a cool young team.

It's not on the higher end of fun. Yeah. And they're not super, super unethical. Yeah. In the way that they take. Jordy's a great coach. Coaching-wise are fantastic. It's awesome to watch him maximize Michael Porter Jr.

They just got a lot of point guards that suck. Yeah. Shout out Yeager Demen. He's had a good year. He's done a really good three-point shooting year. looks like a promising like wing that can be a good 3-indy guy with some playmaking chops

the rest of them I don't enjoy watching Ben Serra play Nolan Treyor is a mixed bag as a young guard Danny Wolf does some cute stuff isn't like exciting exciting to me it's all okay yeah

we spend too much time Nolan Treor is very fast though yeah he's good I think he might the chance he might be the best out of the group maybe we'll see but he's a young very skinny point guard now so it's hard for those guys

actually be good and fun but you see those flashes he's incredibly quick. Denver Nuggets. They're must-see TV. I think the best player in the world, like Yokic is extremely fun. The fact that Jamal Murray has leveled up this year,

now you have that combination. And somebody has to, like I said, somebody has to chase OK, C, and we all think that it's going to be Denver, seeing them on a night-to-night basis to see if they can put things together. I'm a say must-see.

I see what you're saying. You're describing the idea of them on a day-to-day basis. They're never healthy. So it has not been must-cTV as of late. You're describing if every, Everybody is healthy and come playoff time, they will be must-cTV, and I agree. I think even now, just because I, there's obviously been games like Yokic has come back.

Any game that he plays in, it's, it's more likely to be must-st-TV than the not. And even whenever he wasn't there, seeing like, okay, can Jamal Murray backpack this to get you to get you these wins? And even on top of that too. Someone's always stepping up. Yeah, and you see the ascension of paying watches as well. And that was a must-see TV in its own right because it's like, holy shit, who the fuck is this other guy who's getting off these buckets in this way, which where I watched them like 10 months

ago in the playoffs, motherfuckers are leaving him wide open. He's open. Average like 17. I feel like we're just grabbing a jolly good time. I feel like must see TV is like like when B like A and like I have to watch that, you know? I don't have to watch the extension of Payton Watson. I enjoy it. It's a cool storyline. I'm not like I gotta see

what Payton Watson has in his back tonight. You need to see his back. I got to see what Spencer Jones does after you earn this full-time contract. Well, Yonogic is back now fucking finally. And also, So, Jamal Murray is having a story season and it's all right too. So for me, that just lands him to a much, musty TV. Also, are we going, we're going like right now, right?

In this moment or like kind of season-wise? Season-totality, I think. Or like pushing forward even. A combination of all that. But just like, you know, just think about like when you look at the schedule, you can call today, you can call it how your vibes have been over the last three months when you see all the teams playing where they go in your head. And we've seen the Nuggets for so long too.

That kind of holds you out of musty TV to some people. because like we understand. We've seen them so many times. Whereas like the Spurs are obviously must see TV because they're so brand new. And I just feel like we just know that the nuggets are really good. We know this the best version of them.

Shout out Jamal Murray backpacking and Yokic's place. Shout out the young players taking strides. I wouldn't describe it as like the most exciting thing in the world. I still think it's musty. Yeah, I think it's musty. They have a lot of must like a lot of entertaining segments start the entire year.

That's of course like mad volatile. It's nothing compared to the Minnesota's rules. but Yolka's is finally here which helps top things off. You miss a lot of chunks of the season in the middle of the season. We saw a bunch of fillet episodes from Payne Watson and Jamal Murray too. So that's what's... And that's not the point. You said it's nothing compared to the Timberwolves.

Well, no, like it's a different topic of TV compared to the two rules. So it sounds like I'm out of voted. Mustie TV, it is. Memphis Grizzlies. What are going to do with that up and down? I don't even know what you call that anymore. It was Musti TV in terms of all like the chaos. But I don't think they belong over there anymore

Because it's starting to fizzle down So it was low-key depressing, obviously Because it's the end of an era Sold high on Jaron Jackson A lot of picks coming now So we can tell ourselves They're smart But smart doesn't make them fun

Is it still low-key-depressing Especially when you have Jal Who you wanted to trade But couldn't find any good offers for Is obviously you can get traded this summer If somebody wants them It's probably just Loki depressing huh? It is looking depressing huh?

Yeah I saw a highlight tape of 22 Jal yesterday on Twitter not even low-key depressing. It is insanely depressing to see that bounce and to see that flare and the energy shit's gone. Yeah, it's two different players at that point.

It's borderline torture for that reason to me because the jaw we know is never coming back. It feels like, no. Okay, yeah, we'll go lucky depressing. Yeah, the only reason it's not torture to me is because they traded Jerry and Jackson. So now I can say, okay, you're heading in the right direction. At least he's gone.

At least we're doing something right. Your man's ed. He doesn't like... He's been hurt. That's depressing. When he comes back and like him and coward, like that doesn't... Does that change anything for you? No, it will.

It will. Haven't seen it yet. He's been hurt. That's why it's depressing. Exactly. But yeah, that could get them to young and fun potentially. Okay. But I would like to see it.

Next up, Dallas Mavericks. Cooper flag alone, the way that like a top tier star can get you into musty T, Mussey TV, Cooper flag alone gets you to young fun and trash. Yeah. Young fun and ass. That describes the. Maverx experience. It's really only, like you said,

only because the Cooper flag, they don't have a built-out young around him yet. So it's just like, he's the young, he's the one. He's that good enough. Yeah,

like he sees that level especially he's having a damn, one of the better rookie season that we've seen in a long-ass time all around. Yeah, he deserves to be that. And it's just going to be him

because Kyrie is not coming back this year. That was announced. So listen, Cook Cooper. It's all you. How do we fight you? What a season for the Mabs.

I know, what a season. Dude, we thought they were going to be a, they're trying to be competitive. Yeah. Now they're young, fun and ass.

They had Luke Dodgers a year and a half ago. It's funny because they're not even that young fru either. It's a bunch like 28, 30 year olds on this team. And then Cooper flags is there. Like, like, bro, they're trying to be win now.

What a weird team. How do we factor in the anti-Div's experience into the fun ranking? Because... Oh, that's depressing. I mean, he's not there anymore. Yeah, and that's a problem because you traded Luca Donchish for him.

And then that went sideways. And it was a wasted era that now you just feel like, thank God we got Cooper flag. But, you're probably never going to forget the waste opportunity of one, having Luca, two, trading Luca and getting bullshit in return and sending that guy to the Wizards because he couldn't play any games for you. We can't, can we divorce ourselves from that? Yeah. You're going to have to.

Okay. If you want to keep living in this world and have any opportunity of having happiness in front of you, you're going to have to just put that behind you. I'm sorry, it's the biggest, like, what if, it's the craziest move that can ever have. happened trading your start that just got you to the final six months ago that's so crazy however swipe it charge it to the game i'm sorry yeah you can't you are in the cooper flag era he's scoring 35 he's scoring 30 right his is transition buckets are crazy he's a he's a good defender the offense as a whole is coming around he is exactly what you need to get over luca bro they literally you might never they literally went to the finals they got smoked but they went into the

offseason got better at guys like Najee Marshall just to go ahead and trade his ass. That's so sick. How do we factor in fraud into our rankings of this? Pablo Tori said he heard from two owners that believe the NBA draft lottery was obviously fixed with the Dallas Maverickson Land Cooper Flagg. Surprise, surprise. Owners think it's wrong. Naturally

owners feel that way. But how do we factor in that part of it? We have the Lucan Dantia's experience, which still will color the perception of the Mavs and their fun factor and then they got Cooper Flag. Saving grace for their franchise, saving grace for their watchability. But people are going to be talking nonstop about the fact that it was rigged and the fact that they only have him because the league wanted Luca in the Lakers uniform.

Does that impact their fun ability? No. No, you don't go fuck? No. If anything, it adds to it. Let's get to make this lucky bastard and get to keep his job for a little bit longer. He took off a little bit longer because of this big. Because now, like, if you, if we continue to run with this, the mass fans now have,

It's us against the world. And then everybody else has a built-in hate watch to the maps for the rest of Cooper Fly's career. I'm like, he shouldn't even be in Dallas. This is perfect. Is he the white savior? Yeah.

100% for you people in Dallas. Yes. If I was, and obviously they probably are all, they probably already are doing it. Whatever Nike needs to do to get him away from new balance, you start. Okay. Are they that bad?

New balance? So much on new balance, man. I love two bounds. As a basketball entity. Yeah. Have you seen new Kauai's? The new Kauai's are fucking fire. The Kauai Fives are really, really nice.

Fires kind of gas. No. I need to see it. They're legit. And I understand what we're doing here, right? We're trying to give new balance its credit. They're not Nike though. No one is Nike.

Obviously. Yeah, that's crazy. And I understand what I did to see the new ones though. You fucking glazer. They're not Nike. Duh. Look at these. These are tough.

These are actually good. I like those. Yes. These are crazy adjectives. No, those are actually good basketball shoes. Okay, good. These are DL2s with a good midsole.

Good and tough. If you didn't know what those were, if that had a Nike swoosh, those are good bad. If those were the new Kauai, a new Paul George's or something whenever he had a good sneakie line, people liked,

if that was attached to a name and a different logo that was the exact same placement, exact same color, this is a good basketball shoe. Yeah, it's good. This is the chef. A two is a good basketball shoe.

I'm hearing a lot of if. It's not, you didn't even hear it. From the jump, I said these are fired. You just began with non-ifs. You just said, because I had to break it down to you

because you weren't saying the vision. I had to meet you where you live in Ifland. Either way. And also, even if you do want to go with if, that's exactly my point is that this could be a fire shoot if someone were to believe it and it still would not be a nice of you.

What are these words you're saying? Because it's not Nike. And then you try to act like I'm a glazer by not pointing that out. You also is a part of the design though. And it's a good logo. That's exactly my point. It's an N. And that's a check.

Everything's just to something. This is, that's exactly my point. One, me personally, I don't think that this is a good shoe. So that's why I would say you can go to one of the better shoe companies as a whole. Two, even if you want to just lean on branding alone, go to the place that can give you branding for a better star. And all I said was the top shoe company, try to go get the top white guy in the country.

Let's just go do that. And now I'm the glazer. Yes. Because he's like a Lakers fan. Go to the big market. Maybe you can get some ocean. You have a million. Bro, we come in here every two weeks,

pre-trade deadlines. You know we're getting that guy, right? You know we're getting them, right? Connecting to pick, right? We can get him, right? And you want to be that guy? You feel good about being that guy? T-H-T.

That's what you are. That's what you are being right now. You feel good about it. That's what I'm saying. I should be like you. That's the part of me you admire is being the guy that's wishful. If I was running Nike,

hell yeah. Hell yeah. The shoes are solid, man. They are all. Hey. They're good. They're good. They're not bad at all.

He said, they don't make me want to make Cooper just jump ships for no reason. Well, this time of the Cooper conversation. There's a Kauai shoes. That's another part of it. Nothing to do with Cooper. Oh, shoes are so mid.

Good basketball shoes. And again, they're mid because they're new balances. They're probably not even top five of the year. Okay, they're not top five. There's a lot of good basketball shoes. That's a whole other conversation. They might not be top. It's a whole of the conversation.

Maybe, yeah. Now I got to hit on a TikTok time. Oh, she's the trash. Trash is a drag. Relatively. Trash is a drag. No, no, no, no, no, no, you don't believe. Relatively.

Relatively. It's too much. Trash. Trash. Trash. Too much, too much. Combining senses. You know they're solid.

I actually don't think that they're good. But if I'm trying to meet you guys at Charles Love at where y'all live at, then they're okay. But trouble. I don't get about the trouble. Oh, put them in low-key depressing. You want to put everybody in the bottom too. But they're not depressing at all. They're torture.

They're torture. They're torture. I don't like watching Everybody that's not New York LA's torture I don't like watching them What is the end game For them right now

What you mean? It's the normal Rebuilding team What the fight And that's the problem That's the problem That's the problem And we've talked about

It all years That they're either Low-key depressing Or torture You say they're a normal rebuilding team They should not be rebuilding right now

Why? They should Three years ago He's a little jacking A little bit What's going on I think What's a little bit

Depressive for me Is that You know You had We're like Year three into Scoot Henderson's career. And this guy's supposed to take the mantle and supposed to carry this organization.

Hasn't done that yet. You're relying on Denny of Dia at this point. They have a young all star that I became an all star this year. And promise young players around that, clinging's been really good. Scoot's coming back now. He was injured, not his fault. They're clearly young, but not that fun.

I don't lie. They're in the Western Conference that I just don't like watching that much because they gave me late as hell. When school starts turning up, I'll pay more attention. What is the end game is a crazy question, man? It's crazy smoke on a church. What are we waiting for right now? What's the end game for the Pelicans?

Oh no. Like they've been asked for 10 years. This is like a different top ass because it's like, you've never mind. It's anything important in your entire life. Oh my God. This is just you hitting the franchise then, not the 2026 watchability of the team. I just don't like watching that much. Just say it.

But I'm obviously. You do hate Denny. It's fine. They're not. The fritos are fun. I understand. Listen, man. That's been my agenda all year.

I get it. They asked Wembe what he thought about Denny. The reporter wanted to say some good things. And he was like, they say he's a frito guy. I get it. Everybody knows. Yeah, man. Next team, let's talk about Phoenix Suns.

Feel good story of the year. Try hards of the year. Getting it out the mud. No talent to speak of relative to their playoff placement right now. But still so great because of coaching because of effort. Where does that place them in the fun factor? You know exactly where to put them. They are a jolly good time.

They are jolly good time. Yeah. They're a jolly good time. Everybody is hitting at peak performance right now. We're getting the best Dylan Brooks season of all time. So happy we can say that. We're getting resurgence from players who are getting 12 minutes last year into serious, serious NBA players.

And this has been, even with Devin Booker just being like, okay, whatever. Like, you're getting so many contributions from so many other people. It's a jolly good time. They are like the House Money team of the year. It's nice we have them in Toronto next week. They're both just jolly good time. Just playing with House Money, like you said.

better than we thought. Yeah. Solid. Yeah, these are both teams last year that had no real expectation and we're just like in the mud and everyone was asking each other

like what are we doing? What's the move? What's the next? What's the plan for next year? Stumble away into success? Good time over there. They don't have their picks right? No.

There's a lot of swaps being handed out. I don't remember exactly this year what the situation is but yeah, nowhere close to good control of their picks. Yeah. I mean, if you're not going to be a contender, I mean, at least be a good team. Yeah.

Mark Williams is having a good season. He's fixing a lot of his. weaknesses, I think, and really proven to have value, proven to be a guy that his weaknesses don't mask his strengths. So now we're seeing him be a good athletic, we're running big. They don't even play common Malawash yet, who's like, I think, an extremely promising prospect because they're just good letting him wait. That's how fun they are, because they don't even have to use their most fun prospect. Yeah, a lot of times when we all thought that the sons were either going to be the 13th or 14th worst team in the in the cop, or 13th or 14th.

But yeah, whatever. They were going to be the 13 or 14th scene. And they are not that. And so anytime that a team like vastly outperforms their preseason predictions and their standings and stuff like that, they're most likely a jolly good time. Yeah. Okay. Los Angeles Clippers started the season off. Worst team in the conference.

Depressing as fuck. Bounce back went like, was it 21 and 3 over a 24 game stretch? Or am I guessing that. Was it 17 and 3? No. No. They were 19 and 3 at a certain point. 19 and 3 at a certain points.

Rip the bandit off. Trade James Hardin. Bring in Darius Garland. Trade DeVisa Zubach. Bring in nobody. Still have the skeleton of a good team. Kauai is still playing like one of the best players in the world. But they kind of punted on this season after that turnaround.

Weird whiplash. Where does that end up? You could convince me that they're either in low-key depressing or at least you have stars. And for me personally, I think to have the star in the NBA right now, I think no matter what happens with this roster as long as Kauai is playing, they're going to net themselves out at the end of the star. the year to be like a 39, 38 win team. And that's much better than what the expectations were from compared to how they started.

Yeah, no matter what, at least you have stars is the, you're correct 100%. Kauai is the star. Garland, if he comes back and healthy, it can be fun and it can be a little more on ball than he was next to Donovan Mitchell again. Could be really jolly. Could be incredibly jolly if he comes back. But right now, at least you have Kauai. And, you know, if Kauai gets hurt, which is always something that could happen any day now,

they'll probably dip to depressing real fast. But while he's playing at this level, taking over the All-Star game, playing like an MVP candidate in the past three weeks or so. Very fun. Clearly, very fun. If Blue Balls was a team, it'd be the Clippers. Damn. Whoa, why?

I don't know about that. No, he's right. Yeah, it's just like, oh, we're almost, I don't even want to discover it like this. It's like, oh, they're almost good. Like, oh, my God, we're about to be contenders. Boom. Trey James Hardin.

Yeah. You can say, I'm about to, you know, come to the top tier of the league. Never happens. Hell yeah. Type shit. All right. What's the next team?

I don't like you. I don't like y'all right now. Well, like you haven't seen the clippers coming for years and it's never arrived. What's the next team? Like you haven't been expecting it to come

and it hasn't happened yet. Where do you want to put the Boston Celtics? Since 2021, you've been expecting it? Yes. Jolly good time in parentheses but slightly annoying. Okay, elaborate.

The Jalen Brownness is getting over over the top. It's going to be a lot. He is loving him some of him this year. I'm that guy. Yeah. And he's playing extremely well. He's earned the confidence. He's letting us hear about it.

No, stop. And this is, this is the fine line because remember earlier in the year, like, maybe even just like six weeks ago when he went on, on that tour and saying like, Jalen Brunson should be like, I should have won Eastern Conference Player of the month over Jaylon Brunson. I locked down, Kauai, all this other stuff. And we're like, you know what? He's having this oil farming.

cycle. It's crazy. It's good. That line between the ore farming and everybody thinking like, yeah, you're on the top of the mountain. You deserve it. And then going to the other side and you're just being very annoying. He's crossed that very thin line. I want more stars to pop their shit, though. I ain't go lie. Not just because of Jalen Brown. You can, but honestly, the Instagram post is what did it for me of, there's always been this subtone and this subtext of like, I've always been the better guy and I just never got the opportunity because of quote unquote politics and now that Tatum's out like look at what we're doing and it always feels like a low-key shot at Tatum and it just shouldn't it shouldn't necessarily feel that way

so that's the only reason why it's like again in parentheses like kind of annoying so are they a jolly good time and watchability like so they're it's obviously impressive that they've been able to deal with everything they've dealt with losing their whole front court rotation rebuilding it from scratch losing their best player rebuilding their best player from scratch and they aggregate between and three ball handlers. And like, it's all very impressive. Is it a fun product on the court relative to like the top teams? I don't, I don't feel like so.

Yeah, they're not fun. They're impressive. And impressive is really the word. Yeah. Everything Joe Mozilla does massively impressive. The modernization of the game, the way that he prioritized a three point volume, defending a three point line, all the small stuff they do, incredibly impressive. Is it fun?

Where else would they fit? I don't know. Because they don't have, I guess, I guess the clippers also don't fit into this. halfway do because they have they have garland now but like you have jalen brown as a star and then everybody else if we want to get caught up in star versus stars then that's why i would put them in jolly good time if we don't care about that then we can drop them down do we need a new tier for like just it's all right yeah right i do i do we feel like we're lacking it like mid i think so we need we need perfectly mid right now because like mid like mid in parentheses complementary

y'all just don't like the soap except you y'all are dancing around they're just a good I don't know. I said that they were jollily good time. They're a very impressive time. It is not incredibly fun to me. Is it jolly? Yeah, it's not jolly. Like, I'm not like,

I don't feel jolliness when I watch the Celtics. Like, I'm not like, I'm not a lot of fun. I don't hate the Celtics like that. Like, I'm not the tough of fan. I feel impressed by the Celtics more than anything. You need more hate in your heart.

I, do you like watching, you like watching the Raptors over the Celtics? Yeah, I think so. Just because the up and cominess of the raptors and the surprise of it all. I don't know. It's more variance.

with them and it's like you're gonna you're gonna see some shit that probably shouldn't happen or might happen. Or? And like, lend you to be like, oh, yeah. I'm surprised too. I ain't going on.

I don't know. I'm honestly surprised. If they, if they were both playing like a mid-tier team, I would more often go towards the Satsis game than the Raptors. Because you love me Marcus. We've established this in the past 30 minutes. Not even.

But, okay, so not even for them. I'm fine putting them in jell like a good time. But do we feel like they're pressing that we need a mid-tier going forward? Like, do we feel we're going to see more of these that they don't really? that they don't really fit?

No, I think a majority of these teams are going to fit into one of these tiers. Jolly good time is fine. You can have it then. Detroit Pistons. Either Jolly time or I don't think their offense is not going to have to where they are musty. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm thinking about straight beat. There must see TV.

We don't know when they're coming out. I forgot about that. Exactly. We've seen it several times. They're coming the fuck out. All right, must see TV. Must see TV. When you get seven games this.

suspension because of these must see tv might happen again i heard an interview at all for a weekend jayby bickerstaff was like we had this reputation of being these these guys these goons that'll come out here and just fight and teams know that try to get under our skin we're taking this as a learning experience and not let that happen again i let them get to you and i heard him and i was like yeah he doesn't know he doesn't know he's going to happen again it's going to work again i love it they are very easily rage baitable yeah so many rage baitable guys on this team right From top to the bottom, we got a couple of starters, a couple guys on the bench who were just ready to like get lit off like a firecracker. They want to be rage baited actually.

They're looking for it. They enjoy it. Rage bait massacus. Also, speaking of the pistons, listen, we did, we did, because we went back and saw the clip, the shirt did say sexual positions. Yes. You got it. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got it.

Vindicated, y'all. Yeah. We talked about it off camera. We're laughing about it. Everyone keeps commenting. apologize to B. Souls. No. Just because you're so,

actually I wasn't even the one. Donovan, do you want to apologize to B. Souls? I'm not going to say, I'm sorry, but you got it. I think I won't, I was like,

it kind of looks like that. But then you convinced me, I was like, fuck out, I guess B Souls is delusional. I guess B Souls is a horny motherfuckerucker. Even if it did, it,

like, did it, whatever, it's like, why, what are we, how are we going to, like, jump off that in the conversation.

Why is that additive? And that was hate on your observation. No, what is it? No, no, no, now you deserve to bother people. You know, man. No, no. No, no.

I need not get back, man. I know my own death note today, man. That's too much hate, man. What's your full name, man? My full name, man. D. O and then. A.

What is that you right here? He knew good and well that his name is Moe. He knew good and well that his name is Moe. He thought that he was spelling out. some long African man. He fell for it. And fell for it.

He said, I don't know what. He went, okay, de Kimbe, I guess. He was going for the bit, too.

He was going along with it for five letters. So I haven't heard of M yet, but okay. You got it. It got to be coming through. He's a fair face. Oh, shit,

right. I'm crying. Oh, yeah. B.Sos is right. There's. Yeah, you got it. Los Angeles Lakers. Oh, man.

They're not a jolly good time. So, Luca Donch is on this team. Do you have a start? Two point shot has fallen again. He's once again, like, the best offensive player in the NBA going insane as of late. LeBron still, LeBron, 41 years old, has slowed down, but still puts up numbers. He's Lebron, so it always be fun. Austin Reeves, massive leap, playing like a top 20 player in the league.

He's back in healthy again. nuts in his last game before the All-Star break. He's fun. Everybody else is the antithesis of fun. Up and down the roster, not a single other motherfucker is fun. At least you have stars or is a must-see TV because the inconsistency of the nature of the Lakers is also there. Yeah, and it's also been injuries is the thing too.

That makes it inconsistent that how does that impact the fun when everybody's been hurt? I still think they're must-a-must-TV, man. Like, there's whole pre-game rituals that Braun has developed and he's always like doing something new fun in the NBA. Lucas still Luca is averaging 32, 33 or whatever, and the continuous extension of Austin Reeves is still like ridiculous. They're Mussey TV.

We have to admit it. He's putting them in Musty TV because of a pregame ritual. And which LeBron drops down, squats. They throw the ball up. It's fun. And he said, yeah, I got a tune in. A bronze is in a wise dance and he's like, I like it. It's fun. Man, it's fun.

I think they probably are a musty TV. End of the day, either, whether it would be because they're fun and clicking and they have this three-headed monster of all-star little guards, or it's because you hate watching, and there's always a reason to root on their downfall because you hit the Lakers. Either way, you will be watching. Yeah, and they're giving up a ton of points, too. They're not paying a lick of defense on most nights, so you're going to see ultra-competitive games. It's fun. Yeah, either you watch, oh my God, LeBron has his teammate that clicks so well. It's awesome. They just beat the fuck out of the Pacers

or whatever, or you get to hate watch and then go on Twitter and watch everybody make fun of DeAndre because he got four rebounds in a game or something. There's always something to watch for it. You walk in a way with something. You will walk away with something. That will be me. Washington Wizards. Young fun and ass.

Yeah, they're pretty fun, right? Yeah, they're pretty fun. Are they fun? I don't think they're that fun right now. They're funny theory. They're interesting. Saar and Kishon George, interesting. Trey is going to be interesting.

Promising young players. But are they fun already. I don't think they're fun right. They're kind of fun. Kishon George has been very impressive. he's not like a fun archetype. I'm gonna say not even that fun. Yeah, I think next year

that I'm really fun. Sarr is fun enough to me. But I don't know if it's fun because I'm intrigued about his potential or if I'm actively enjoying it already. I don't know. Trey Johnson doesn't play enough, he's fun. He's fun.

He's really good. Yeah, he's fun. Okay, I think sometimes he can be like a little bit too passive, which makes it of course a less fun experience. But needs to say, you can convince me

that they're young, fun, and ass. but this is not enough of like a devout playstar's game just yet. We're talking about generalities for most of these teams. When you watch them, their guard play is so unfun. Watching Bob Carrington and Balakula Bali doing a lot of ball handling responsibilities

is not fun. Now, when Troy Young gets in these doors, it might get fun real fast as we have like a adult to playmaker everybody. Yeah, next year. Yeah, next year it might be real fun. So I think, yeah. Yeah, for right now, not even that fun.

It's a smidgen of fun. It is a smithful fun. But it's not enough fun consistently. There's more fun than the Nets and the Trailblazers. Actually, there's about the same fun as the Nets and the Trailblazers. Now I'm thinking about it is. It's about the same amount of fun. It's the end game, right?

Honestly, what is the Trailblazers end game? It has got Anthony Davis and Trey Young. They have a weird ass end game. But nevertheless, their slight bloodline. Atlanta Hawks. Um, this is loki depressing. I think, I think the fact that you traded your, you traded your franchise player, you got, you have an All-Star that's fine.

You guys are just eternally mid. Like, they, we keep asking the question. Their question is, what is the endgame here? I mean, it's clear, like, they want flexibility. Clear? They want cap space. And they're getting a top pick come June. John Johnson's an all.

If he wasn't an all-star, I think he saved. the thing at the end of the day. Let me hold your hand when I say this. As a Lakers fan. Don't touch me. As a Lakers fan. You're stinky. I know about this more than anybody.

I can relate to everything you just said. Flexibility is not an end game. That is some bullshit. They sell you until they can find the next star. Flexibility is not an end game. Don't listen to that shit. Listen, as long as Jalen Johnson here, he's averaging 23, 10, and eight,

something crazy like that. That saves me enough to be like, okay, like, I can kind of watch all. You all decent. I think they belong right there with the, with the Blazers and the Wizards. Nikola is one of,

Nikolajan Warker 2 is hooping as well, having career year across the boards. Don't talk to me about Zachary Richie Shea at all. You have number one pick who is Zachary Riches Shea. That is the opposite of fun. That is so depressing. It weighs down to everything.

And you know what? Quinn Snyder, like, does a good job of like protecting us from him because he just plays him like 20 minutes a night. Okay. Don't have to see him that late. Yeah, their end game is praying to God that gets number one pick.

Yeah, we're going to say low-key depressing. Low-key depressing. What? But. Yeah, but it's only low-key. They're not majorly depressing. It's low-key for a reason. Nah, man, it's tripping.

They're close to being a little more fun. But, John Johnson's fun to watch. Sure. Not as like the only thing that's there, though. Compared to who? What tier would you put them in? I will put them just right above. The Pelicans are more fun to watch, I think.

They're there because of all the off-the-court stuff, which is the opposite for the Hawks. They are the benefactor of all this. But in terms of the players on the team, the Pelicans are more fun to watch. You think the Brooklyn Nets are more fun to watch than the Hawks. Yeah. Y'all don't believe.

You don't believe that else I was moment How many more players are more excited To watch than Nets and the Hawks? Come on. I'm not going to lie The Hawks are not fun to watch I'm glad they did it

For the long term outlook They're not fun to watch Oh my gosh Then the Brooklyn Nets Yeah, it's not less than that I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie Michael Porter Jr. is probably Just as fun if I'm more fun

than Jalen Johnson Now is that because of the like caricatification Of Michael Port Jr., yes But nevertheless I enjoy watching Michael Porter Jr. get buck It's just as much that I enjoy Jalen Johnson. You're lying.

You don't. You don't. You're pissing me off right now. Get your hands out of your pockets. Tell me right now. You don't believe that. Get your hands out of your body. You're lying to me.

Yo, you're lying to me. I'm not. You don't like watching the Nets over the Hawks. Have I ever told you once in my life that I enjoy watching Zachary Riesiescheye? Um, just say nothing. Just say yes or no. Yes or no. There's like.

Yes or no, please. There's 28 other minutes to watch. Yes or no. He's more not playing than he is. Yes or no? No. Have I ever told you I enjoy watching when Yucca Ongwu? Yeah.

No, I have not. No, I have not. No, I have not. Who's having dinner one time and you told me? Have I ever told you, I'm just thrilled to watch to kill Alexander Walker? No. Up and under the roster, there's a bunch of guys that are cool. I'm not like, gotta go watch them.

I just don't think you have these conversations. Oh, we talk about this team a lot, sadly. We do have these conversations. That's an unfortunate part. Okay, never mind. Unfortunately, he's a Hawks fan and he makes it all of our problem. You know what? Whatever, man.

And for that, and honestly, because of that and for that reason, outside of like, obviously the Lakers, because I hate them, because you are a Hawks fan and we talk about them, there are a lot of times where I watch a Hawks game and I want the Hawks to win. I want good things for them and they never do that for me. We've had this comment before. I don't know why you want good things for our teams. I don't inherently want good things for any of y' all team. I actually think I probably would rather have bad things for y' else teams.

Fuck it. Just put them in torture them. this point. Kill me off. Put them on there, man. Torch. It's just like on a, and it's not even like on an every night basis. But it's like sometimes, like if I'm tuning in and it's time to watch the Hawks, I'd be like,

okay, let me see you guys do something. And then all of a sudden something bad would happen per usual. And now I'm like, just go ahead and take out one of my lungs. Put them in Torch. We're supposed to be good. We're supposed to win like 50 games. It's supposed to be like a 5. 5.

Exactly. That's why it's low-cutting. No, put him in torture. Fuck that. No. End me the fastest way. Kill me clean. Charlotte Hornets.

They're must see TV right now. Absolutely. Absolutely. Easy. Absolutely must see TV. It's not having a conversation. The three-headed monster of their six-seven ball handlers is finally clicking. They finally have a big man with the energy to match.

They're well-coached out what feels like. I know some Charlotte Hornets fans kind of hate Charles Lee. I believe in the system he's putting in whether or not he's good at managing the personalities. I let you all decide. But overall, if Lamello, Kahn and Brandon Miller are healthy, they will be fun. Mm-hmm. Yeah. 100%.

And they weren't young, fun, and ass. That's where they should have been, but they've just been amazing for like a month now. So they broke out of ass. Yeah, man. Seeing them just like more actually just turn around everything is so like, it's such a relief in the NBA world because they could have just been nothing. It's got to be like one of the more teams to league and just tiring conversation.

We had a lot of must-heed TV teams right now. Yeah. It's a lot of the good place. Shout out parody. Is Adam's over the good job? The second neighbor than that, might have blessed us. Look at that. Utah Jazz

Young Fun and ass I think Guantége is very fun Larry is very fun It'd be really nice If Walker Kessler is still healthy But those two carry I think Young Funn and Asch

Young Fun and ass It's perfect Yeah not much to say About them outside of that Actually no torture Because the Utah Jazz Have sprung us Into two weeks of straight

tanking conversation With their actions They have made everybody Online Commissioner of the NBA Because we have to now talk about what do we do to stop this because they are so unethical in their tanking the more we talk about it and more we get into it i've like we've talked a lot last episode on monday was

fixing all the problems with the NBA and stuff and we talked about tanking kind of like paying attention to this conversation and giving it some credence man it's not an issue i'm so sick of it tanking doesn't fucking matter i'm so sick of it who cares i'm so tired talking about it i i think i think it matters but i'm with you we've talked about it so much and every other show that that i listen to everyone spends the same amount the same you know 30 35 minutes is all I've heard for the last two weeks and now I'm at the point which like oh just just let them tank it's we've lost the plot it matters though it matters a little bit and we're talking about it like it's everything we've somehow we've ceded the point that the hate that people want and we've let them have

the ground in accepting the fact that it's the biggest problem the NBA has it's just not it's a small problem that should be addressed in some way it's not the biggest deal in the world it's going to ruin the NBA yeah it's it's it's I'm tired Yeah, one of many problems that we feel like as the main character. But yeah, Utah Jazz, Lowry, Chiante George, very fun. And a lot of other promising-ish players around that. I forgot they cheated Walter Clayton. Yeah.

sucks. He's good, though. Philadelphia 76ers. Tyrese Maxie, V.J. Edgecombe, the future. Joel and Beat having a good season. Healthy. Paul George. Off something.

Suspended? They might be jolly good time or at least you have stars, but I think there probably we've been a jolly good job because it's like okay vj's like actually a good productive rookie who you can rely on to some capacity at least tyrie's max he's taking the leap as like oh like he is a star guard one of the better guards in the entire league top 10 for sure and then joll and b's like i think he's hurt again as of late but i don't think it's anything too too seriously so even to see him like back performing at a pace where he's like averaging 27 28 a game it's all fun and vibes house money at this but bring joel and beat 30 bombs in 2026

He didn't play last year. All summer we talked about, fuck, Joel Mee's done. This is unfortunate how we quickly saw one of the greatest players of our lifetimes turned to dust because his knees completely failed him after an Olympic run.

He's back. He's playing. I think even beyond that, there were questions about what do the Sixers look like after the Joelle and Beat era. I do think they've been answered this season as well

with Joel and Beade playing. Their feature is definitely Tyreys Mac's in Vijay Edgecombe. So, yeah. Yeah, they're balancing both signs now. They're still good now. One of their franchise goats and Joel Embed is still

healthy and available when the best players they'll ever see and they get to watch him kind of hand the baton to the next area of two guards. Plus every game they play is a close game. True. They're not going to have to blow anybody out. Nope. Jolly good time. Loke musty TV, but that tier's going to low too crowded from my liking. So jolly good time, that fits. They're also just not. So we put the hornets down?

No. We're probably doing a little bit as much. No. We can't. We can't. Right now currently with a run there on. If we can't, they are bussy TV to see how long they can keep this up. I'm not going to be one to hit on it. I also do kind of think we're seeing the hornets. We haven't they got into this yet. I kind of think we're seeing and be like that next team that makes a leap like the year prior, like next year they'll actually be really, really good. And we're kind of watching the birth of this

next actual really good playoff team. And that's always my CTV when you can realize that in the moment. Okay. Or land of magic. Be so funny. They're just the ninth scene next year. I know. Watch it just fall apart again. We know. That could happen because they're always fucking hurt. They're not going to be naturally healthy forever. That's fair. Magic. They are torture.

Yeah, they are torture. They are torture. Yeah, Franz Wagner's hurt again. He'll be revalued in three more weeks. Brother. Palo Bancaro. Palo Ban Carroll. Palo Bancaro. I have a chart to pull up while you guys are talking. Oh, that's disgusting. This is the least fun player to watch in the NBA by far. When you think about usage, expectations,

and performance, Palo Bancaro is the bottom of the barrel in watchability this season. And where's that chart? Here's what Carson talking about it a little bit. Palo Ben Carrow has played 43 games this season and still has an effective full-go percentage of 31.5 on pull-up jumpers. There are 60 other players to attempt 180 plus pull-ups this season. Not a single one has an EFG below 40. Hello is 31. He is lapping the field

for the title of worst volume shooters in the NBA. This is one of the worst shooting seasons of all time when you consider volume and difficulty of shots and how much your team needs to make those shots. This is up there with when Russell Westbrook was breaking out a high volume in his later prime years. This is truly next level horrendous. Yeah, man. There's nothing more depressing,

nothing more like torture worthy and experience as a fan than knowing that a guy who you drafted at, number one, a guy who you built a team out around him specifically, a guy who made investments. It's like giving up three, four first-round picks for someone like Desmond Bain, just to find out that he is not the face of your organization, not the face of your franchise, you can't build like a championship level team around him. I experienced something similar-ish to this with, of course, Trey Young.

And to see them, like, even, not even reach like those heights, sniff those heights yet at all, is torture because now you're going to have to pitiful. soon. And even Trey gave you, Trey gave you more than what Pallel was giving the magic. Way more. Yeah. So like you had you had a little bit more reason to to believe and to buy in year in and year out, especially over these last couple years where for the magic

we're still hoping that we can, you're still hoping that you can get to like that first moment of okay no, we are solidified and you're still, you're still hoping for a lot of development. Every, every night is just, it's tough throughout all of the injuries throughout, knowing, you know, where the team is, knowing that the offense has been bad for a decade and it spans

over multiple, like, iterations of this team. And Palo Bank heroes just, it sucks, but like, he's the face of it. Yeah, it's just an unfortunate conversation to have because, like, so much of the palo thing is tied up to potential what we know we can be and what we've seen in like tiny flashes that people like

buying on and that being the playoff performances where he has otherworldly shooting for those small samples. that's just enough that you can tell yourself, oh, he rose in the biggest moment. He can keep doing that. But then he doesn't do it in the regular season the next year when the sample size is larger.

That leads such a whiplash for a magic fan that's going to defend their guy, as they have to, obviously. But when it's so built on potential that we have never once seen come to fruition for anything larger than like a 10 to 20 game sample, you can only coast that for so long. Like, when do we just give up?

I don't really know. Like when it's so theoretical, when is the theory to end? Yeah, at a certain point, I don't know. Like, you have to just make that decision for yourself. And for the magic, lucky for them, they do have somebody else in France that you can kind of have and still keep your team flow.

So it'll be somewhat competitive in the East. But Palo's just tough because he's 610. He's super big, super strong. He's NBA Kadoosh right now. Oh, my God. He is Kadoosh. Literally, all he is is big. He's Kadoosh.

He's Kadoosh. It's tough. Fuck. NBA Kadoosh. I did a lot of Pallas Lander over my past two years on the show. Nothing tops Kadoosh. That's what he is. You see somebody like, you see somebody that big with that, with that, like, size and

ability to get downhill. And sometimes, you know, he, like, he has learned how to use it in order to get to the free throw line. But, you know, those suits are, like, they'll have the, like, a Palo highlight tape and somebody called Tutin, it's like, you're going to be mad when I say who it looks like. Yeah. And you have those moments, but when you are talking about who it looks like, that other person who it looked like, they produced every single night. And they were consistent offensively.

And they have legitimate superpowers and strengths that they can get you to carry an offense to competency. And Palo doesn't have that right now. And the magic are lacking because of it. You know what's tough? Like this has been a big conversation over the All-Star break. Some reason, Palo has been a huge topic. And naturally the magic fans obviously going to be defending him, right? And they will say, this is a crazy overreaction for somebody whose career average is like 22, 7, and 5 who rises in the biggest moment in the playoffs and has made all-star teams.

Like to drag him down when he's at his lowest point where he has one bad season, we're doing too much. And I get it. I get why they think that. This is just like year after year of everything the nerds are saying, everything that I've been up here saying for two years about why he's overrated to some because of these deficiencies. It's just a third year in a row of that now. and it's a most dramatic example, but this didn't come out of nowhere. Even when he was making all-star teams

being relatively successful for his standards, this type of stuff was always apparent. Now it's just shining more than ever. So I think it's probably a little naive to paint it as like, all of a sudden he's bad. No, you just didn't want to hear it before because he was younger

and got bent in for the doubt. And now after so many years of this evidence mounting up, it's kind of becoming undeniable to more and more people. Yeah, I'd even say, I'd typically say he has one more season, but with how bad he's planned,

he has half a season. Bro, I've been saying that for two years. For two years, I've been the Paloslander guy and I've been saying but next year he'll probably food me wrong next year it'll probably

food me wrong when does it end when do I have to just say I'm over it I think we are reaching that breaking point though yeah we are but them as an organization

they just gave him that massive contract extensions got in super max or whatever and they're going not a super max actually just giving him a regular max contract

and now they're probably going to fire coach Mosley which he probably deserves to go ahead and be fired because he hasn't led them to be like a good offense as an entire tenure

and they're going to give him more chance solid system next year. But next summer, if that doesn't happen and there's still like a top 22 offense or whatever it is or maybe even like top 19 if that's not even good enough, they're going to be, he's going to be fired. Coach Moore's going to be gone. And then I'll talk about that too.

Paul is going to be traded or they're going to try to at least. Yeah, Palo's gone. And for Palo's sake, you better hope that you score 30 in the playoffs this year. Again. Yeah. You have to at this point, like that's his calling card and that is his saving grace. And that's the reason why that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the reason why you've been able and I've been one of the people kind of defending them is because

you do have this upper level or you've shown the ability to rise in certain positions. If you don't do that, then everything that that we're talking about, then all the hope and potential, that doesn't that, if that, if the playoff rising isn't coming with that, then we're done. The Palo theory is the idea that drafting a good, not great player like a fringe all start with the top pick could be more detrimental than drafting a bust because said player is disproportionately likely to be overcommitted to their franchises in team building slash cap allocation. Whether or not this ends up being the actual outcome, we will see.

This is what it feels like in this moment. It feels like you have to give him more and more opportunity, more and more money because he's a number one of all pick and there's just enough to show that he's not like a Zachary Risha Shay or anything. But if the development stops and he just becomes what he was in year two and does never make that proportional leap that you'd want, never makes what K did last year, unfortunate. Yeah. I'm not sure how I feel about this.

I can understand. Yeah, I understand it. Yeah, I get it. And I understand it. I'm not saying it's completely wrong. I just think bust is also tough. Yeah. And bus is like,

you give your fans, zero whole thing. But see, Ritcher's not going to affect their long-term outlook. Like, it doesn't fucking matter. They gave Pallow $55 million a year.

That affects a lot of things. Yeah. So, like, ultimately, like, there's more long-term effects. Like, it hurts to miss, to whiff a pick like that. For sure it is.

It hurts emotionally to whiff a number one pick. It doesn't actually matter more than whiff in the nine pick or whatever like it's still just a whiffed pick this is four years now if we if we know this year if it doesn't get better and this is who paolo is the contract hasn't started yet we get four more years of him making 55 million dollars a year not being worth it not a good enough to lead you to number one seed or anything like that that's that's that's a lot of impact contract hasn't started yet is crazy we're just getting started we're just getting started We're already at the breaking point, dog.

Oh my goodness. I don't even feel good being like, told you all so. Because it's just like, it sucks. You're kicking a man down. It sucks. It's even worse than you predicted. It's not. People are so mean to me whenever I hate on the low-level also like this.

I don't think you're like that. Sabonis, Shangu and Palo. I think it's really the main three. I don't know who other genas have had. Their fans are so over the top. Defending their guys. I want to be like, fuck you. I just go, I suck.

But like, Palo being this bad of a shooter is just tough. It's just tough. It doesn't even feel good. It's just tough Come on palo man Lock in bro Lock in please now I'm here for you Lock in

Oklahoma City Thunder Then I must see Right now Or earlier in the season I would have said must see Because they were chasing Like the record That's not gonna happen anymore

Do you want to appease the masses Or say what we think Because you know everybody hates Washington Thunder For different reasons That I don't think us really agree with But people don't like Washington Thunder Is this our list or is it the people's list Is the question

We stated earlier that this is our list that this is our list. Okay, so I don't do a fuck about the foul baiting. I enjoy watching them foul everybody on defense. I think everybody should try it. I think it's good to be aggressive on defense. So I'm not, there's really no distractions for me personally.

So you would have them in mussy or Jolly Gatim, either one, whichever you guys, you guys are being very liberal musty TV more than I am. So for the precedent we've said, if the Timberwolves are a musty TV, so are the Thunder to me. I actually disagree. Okay.

I would have, I would have the Thunder in Jolly Good Time. I think I would have them just because the offense obviously I'm a skew for fun I'm a skew just a little bit more offensively there their offense is inconsistent at times

they've had they've had a lot of injuries going in it out and even whenever Jada was here at the start of the year we had a lot of games where he was not fun we've had we had a conversation last week about like Chet and sometimes me I personally am watching chat I'm like I'm like

all right brother I'm going to need you to get like two more buckets please can you get me 20 please exactly that's not that's not necessarily there. And sometimes it does really feel bogged down. So that's why I would go jolly good time instead of, instead of must-see TV. I don't know if the, Bobbler rockets are there for extra curriculars. I just feel like the Timberhills and Nuggets are there.

They deserve to be there too. Yeah, like they're equally as fun. Shea is also going to be a back-to-back MVP, one of the most fun players to watch of all time if you don't hate them. Like if you're not somebody that despises the foul stuff and the, like, whatever stuff so much that it dwarfs your ability to have fun watching Shea. If you can look past that, Shay is, incredibly fun to watch. Yeah, yeah, I agree. And if we're like talking about the

okay seat thunder when it comes to overall, totality of the season, Shay is like the start and end of that conversation at all alone. And that Jeremy Kane now, by the way, he's got another TikToker into the mix that the vibes are incredible now. J. Doe came back from his second injury and his wrist is better. He's actually shooting well again. The vibes are up. We're going to have multiple dancers having a good time. Mustie. I think you're describing them just being super jolly. Well, it also helps your defending champs. Number one seed, best team in the league to add on to the whimsy.

Well, essentially, the Detroit Pistons are the best team in the league now. What do you mean? By record. Oh, they pass them up? Oh, because the last game, Shade in playing stuff. And whatever, they're going to obviously get back on top. Take the calories.

Yeah. San Antonio Spurs. Must see TV. I don't want to spam it, but. It's the last one that's going to be there. Sorry, man. There's a lot of good teams to watch right now. It's a lot of good teams of watch right now.

It's, Wemby, Dillon Harper, is like that. It's, sorry. I hate to say. I had to do it because it's crowded, but it's true. It is like that. I mean, you have Victor Woman Yama making an MVP leap type of, you know, from year two to year three becoming an MVP caliber player. One of the most fun players in NBA history with the supporting cast good enough to give

him a chance to win. I'm kind of like, I've had this feeling for weeks now that when I'm thinking about the playoffs and we know we can talk about we don't know what's going to happen. It's so wide open. The age of parity truly is here. I feel it on my bones that we're going to see a Wembe like legend making playoff run. That the Spurs are going to look up and they're in the conference finals or the the finals and like it's going to be the year we realize okay so wemby is like maybe the most impactful

player in the NBA coming to playoff setting definitely see a world world and where like wimby goes ahead and gallops his way into the conference finals i don't know if they'll make the finals because they still have like flaws in their roster like Harrison barnes i think he's on the bench now and they're everyone other guys they're giving other guys to go so that holds but i could definitely of course yeah and that's why it'd be surprised and why it would be like a legend-making thing because it's roster wise i don't think they're ready but i just keep having these I have these premonitions of when being a playoff series, being the greatest defender of all time already,

completely wrecking game plans. I'm thinking back to those OKC games, I felt like a playoff series-ish, and the amount of like schematic, disadvantages they had to overcome to get buckets every single time down the court, like, man, what happens when they play another team that's not quite as good defensively as OKC?

Like, there might be times where they just completely suffocate teams. Like if they play the Rockets, then he might suffocate the Rockets offense. Yeah, he would. I think the, uh, right now, with the matchups, standing told, we're getting

Spurs Nuggets in the second round. Okay, that's the one team you can't suffocate. So that might be the reason that it doesn't happen. So there's, there's different avenues.

But if you're having premonitions strong enough to where you feel it in your bones four months out, then you're, you're gonna have to beat Yokic. Yeah.

Like that's, that's the, that's the level, that's the level that you're going to have to raise your team to to get them to, to be there.

So it's, it's not crazy to, think that but Wemby is not Wembe is one of the most fun players in sports as a whole of like anytime that he's on you kind of have to stop what you're doing and tap in Cleveland Cavaliers

after acquiring James Hardin They seem to be a jolly good time Hell yeah so are we getting that credit just because James Hardin changes everything because before that we would have been like fuck this is kind of sad yes yeah but honeymoon James Hardin is here okay okay nothing is more powerful in the universe

no force has more control over the destiny of those it touches, then honeymoon phase James Hardin. Everybody seems to like them. They've stacked some wins together. It seems to be like a very seamless fit. They've been playing really well. So I would put them as a jolly guitar. I don't care.

Just date James Hardin, man. He makes a good impression on the parents. Yeah. First time he comes over, great impression. A couple months later, though. We're not there yet. We'll talk about that when it comes. Indiana Pacers.

young but not even that fun with Tyris Halliburton gone so they have their pick so it's not like depressing but it's depressing to watch without Tyre's Halliburton like on the core product I think it's definitely depressing just based off of what they were last year yeah what the season ended up being for them you guys agree yeah I think they're depressing

yeah because in the grand scheme of things we understand what it is actually know what no matter what it's depressing to have Tyre's Halliburton tears Achilles so like even if we apply the caveat if we know it's a gap here they'll be back at yada yada it's depressing to miss Tyre's Alberton. Sad team, Pascal Seaccom,

we just like try his absolute hardest on both ends of the floor, specifically the offense, just get his shit off. And the next thing you know, damn, lost by 20.

Team given 137. Depressing, bro. Yeah, they gave an all-star team because of it. Yeah. Miami Heat. Oh, man.

I can't get over it. Man, this all-star team had some of the worst picks I've ever seen. Dude, it was a horrible All-Star year.

Norm Pal was there doing cardio. Are we going to low-key, depressive? because we're seeing the downfall of this legendary old man and like and of this institution of heat culture that was so strong and like the vooduness of it of it all was so powerful that now you just look at the heat and they feel like a complete shell of themselves and what they

normally are so that's the grand narrative i agree they're also not fun to watch like to the essence of this question when you watch the games bam out of bio is not fun to watch there's some fun elements when him and wear are both out there and you have these two bigs that can do these things defensively and both shoot like that happens sometimes kill a little wears in and out of the rotation because the coach is beefing with them not doing enough like Tyler heroes always hurt like that's always it's really not fun at all coach me even with you he's got haters in the locker room is there supposed to have the distract coming out it's really not fun to me whatsoever to watch this team so what is it depressing or tortured I would say depressed it's torture to me

but I know I'm hating I it's been towards it because we're going through the same shit every single year. So much of the bulls. I find it quite torturous, but I know that's hating. Is it? It's also my list. It's our list up here.

So like, I want to put them to torture. We can hate. If we have some agendas, we can hate. Let's put them in torture. They're just like the bulls. As long as we know we're hating. Who cares? Yeah.

Who's going to stop us? Oh. Fuck the heat. Who's going to stop us from hating on some teams? Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. Nobody.

Sacramento. Torture. Easy conversation. Torture. This is the worst team to league by far to watch. If we had a team. year that says I refuse to watch you. They're there. Sabonish got shut down for the year and I think Zach Levillian

is also getting season-ending injury surgery. He did. Listen, I can't say I won't watch them. I have to watch everybody a little bit. Second half of the season, I'm not watching very many Kings games. I'm teetering towards watching Zero Kings games. What annoys me is just they have so many players that would be good on other teams just wasted me. Waste in a year. Do they even? I think if Sabonis,

Zach Levine, Russell Westbrook, even Keegan Murray on other teams, Keegan Murray is the only one of that name. You named four players. Three of them would not be better on another team. Keegan Murray, you got it. No, no, not better. I just think they'd be much valuable on other teams.

Yeah, well, you know, the Levine thing is always the contract situation. Who actually is going to be able to pay him and having to be able to be well for them. Sabona, sure. I'm a bit of a hater, so I don't know. I don't know. I think we'll talk about the conversation. But yeah, the young guys, Kegan Murray, previously Keon Ellis, some of the other young wings they have. You would love to see him in another team.

Also, neat Clifford is, like, not very good right now. So that's unfortunate. Shout to Dylan Carway, man. It's like the third time I said, Don't A-M out of spot. Yep. You know what time it is. It's time for the brodie.

Put that backpack on. Russell Westbrook, let's get some wins, brother. 38% from the field and coming soon. It is your team. Last team on this list. The Golden State Warriors. Should be torture, but you have Steph Curry.

At least you have a star. At least you have a star. But Loki. Old fun and ass. The poppies are not fun. It's just a old and ass. He's just old It's old saggy cheeks

That's all the words are Saggy cheeks They're an old rump We got to call it a rump Because it's old Rump I'm crying I'm gonna say

At least you have to start Yeah I guess That's what tears for But it's teetering on torture Just because of how we know Steph Curry is riding away They're gonna get Christop's back Please stop

You're gonna see him for like Maybe a week and a half And you're not gonna see him For the rest of the years He's going to be the newest little wrinkle of satellite on that rump. Another one bites of dust. I love how we all agreed that they probably should be torture, but they're like four tiers above torture.

This goes curry there, bro. It's good curry, man. That's it. They probably should be tortured. No, no, no. If the Mingo was still there, then yes. Third highest tier. Why are we beating around the bush?

They have their greatest player of all time, most fun player of all time, who is on a bullshit rock. who had another star in Jimmy Butler. He has gone for the year. That Camingo, who was supposed to be the next chapter, he was shipped out for fucking nothing. There is, they will not be fun for a single game to me the rest of the season. Yeah, Steph Curry and.

I don't know. He hasn't been thrown his hands very much lately. He kind of calmed down. They kind of beat him into submission. Yeah, because the trade deadline was coming up. We're getting into the second half of the year. It's on the way. I guess.

It feels, it's sad. It is torture. I think we have one more altercation. curfuffle out of Draymond this year. Hey man, we're betting on a Draymond kerfuffle is the one thing keeping him four tiers above

where they should be. And also Curry, he's gonna him alone just always carries it. Pro, not really. For the fun factor, not really. It sucks watching Currie and Bums. It sucks. When he goes off, it makes him more sad.

No. It makes me more sad. It's less fun. He's like, he can do this every night but they don't let him. You do too much. I think about what I can't have when I do get it.

He's not going to be doing this for so long, man. He's not going to be able to carry a team for so long. And he's barely doing it still. He can't do it now. It's over. They're not good. No matter what. It's this and they're slightly above 500. He's doing it technically. I guess it's the point of the tier. You're all right. But man, it's not fun. I understand you though. I understand. The Dicks are so much more fun to watch. I mean, even within the tier, we can tear within. So it's, it's okay. I think it's a mountainous gulf between the Knicks and the Warriors in terms of watchability. That's fine. That's okay. Okay.

It's interesting. Old and ass. That's the invisible tier. Yeah. And honestly, besides the Knicks, that tier is pretty much old and ass. Well, Clippers are good now, so a little weird, but. Quote and quote, unquote. Used to be good, now without James Harding.

I think they're so their defense is going to, like, be elite now, probably. Yeah. Without James Hardin, because they can just scheme better. So I'll have five players. We're going to give effort. But, I mean, it might go back down once, once Garland comes back in. Second half of the year. I mean, they're going to be fine.

Like, they're going to make the play in. Yeah. So they're going to be better. They'll have an opportunity. No one else really trying to make the plan. 500. Exactly. All right.

Well, that is our tier list of every NBA team's fun factor, the annual watchability tier list halfway through the season. With that being said, what time is it? Be sold. It's on you. Add on to you ever set it. TikTok time. Yeah.

Yeah. Welcome to. The TikTok time, like usual. We begin with the draft. Like usual, we're going to do our draft format that we've been doing for a while now with this wheel. Last time we did it where we drafted teams with only players who played with LeBron James. It was a fucking shit show.

He did that draft. It was crazy. This time we're going to do it. Drafting teams from this players we get from the team we draw on the wheel. Only washed up stars. So you get the version of the star on this team and they have to be washed. Maybe we'll get us in debates about what washed me. but clearly past their prime.

Okay. So a draft order, what do we have this time? We have... Photoshop for me. Yep. We have Donnie, Mo, and Isaac. Okay, this is the order. Donovan.

Perfect. You ready to get the best washer player? Hopefully. All right, first team. Where are we going up first? Here we go. First team. Let's see with the spin, Lance.

Please, please, please, please, please, please. Who is it? Warriors. Golden State Warriors. Washed up stars on the Warriors. That's kind of tough. Listen. Does wash clay work?

He's washed. Yeah, sure. You can have 2024, or what was last year he was there? 23 Clay. Sure, you can have 23 Clay. Let's put the year on there to be specific, so we know this isn't good clay. Yeah. You could have 23 Clay Thompson at shooting guard.

Yeah. Listen, he's still a shooter. He's still a shooter. So I would take 23 Clay Thompson. Okay. Cool. Shooting guard, small forward. Shooting guard.

All right. And for me, I'm going to take 2026 Draymond Green. Nah, I don't know. That counts. Yeah, folks saying he's watched. What do you mean? We were just having a watch conversations

about him. It's not confirmed. No, he's still a great defender. He's still close to. He's close enough to Drame on. He's had a lot of moments this year but he's turned up. Hopefully saying that because I wanted to pick him.

Maybe, but also it's true. I guess we'll never know. Come on, man. Okay, wash stars Um Can I Horford Go ahead and give me Have the words had a lot of wash stars?

Yeah, give me 2019 DeMarcus cousins That's fair Okay, because he was washed That's fair Okay, you're gonna have 19 DeMarcus cousins Yeah

Yeah, post Achilles DeMarcus cousins I'll give you that Contributed not much Okay Tours quad That same year two That's gonna keep happening

Cause the hopkeys Yeah yeah Yeah He tore's quad Yeah because he ended up missing missing time Yeah.

Oh, fuck, man. Sorry, Buggy. I guess give me Chris Paul. Yeah, I guess. Better than Boogie. Might be worse than Clay. What year? 23, Chris Paul.

23, Chris Paul, but you know what? Cp. That's good. What are you earned about? He's not washed? No, it's just stinky, man. This is for sure, watch. That's the list.

I know. They're all going to be stinky. That's all they got. It's a stinky-ass team by nature. Listen, the first sweat. Was it two, three weeks? They're looking decent. Precisely.

Give me week one, Chris Paul that season. They're looking decent. All right, team number two, who do I got first? Okay. Please give me something better. Who was this? 76 years. Can I have 2026 in Bede?

No. Unfortunate. Can I have, listen, James Harden bounced back, but he's looking a little washed that first year. No, okay. You're still an all-star. I can't have that. Okay. Do I want the last year of Ben Simmons?

No. Ben Simmons? Damn. The final year. Actually, they traded him when he was getting cooked. He never really was cooked with the six years

because he wasn't playing and then they traded him and he was cooked for the team. We can like talk about Ben Simmons like that. It's crazy still. Washed up stars. Can I get that year?

Al Horford wasn't good because he had some good years after that but he was still a post All-Star. You do, they hated him that year. Yeah. They only got him because they didn't want him to play against him Bede. What year was that?

20-22? I don't remember. That was 2020. It was 2020? Yeah. Okay. Give me Al Horford at my center. Okay.

Which don't even put the years. Just put Horford. What will we know? I don't want to be asked to figure out the years. Game of the year, Horford went there so he couldn't defend Joelle and be in the playoffs anymore.

You know what? Go ahead and give me Paul George. Okay. This year, Paul George. Yeah. You know what? I just want some shooters. So can we actually move Clay

to the small forward? Yes. So we're going to put Clay at small forward. And at the two, does JJ Reddick count? No, he was not washed. That was some of his best basketball years. Of course not.

That's crazy. He almost averaged like 20 off and just straight up handoffs. Then never mind. I mean, listen, it's a good version of a watch player. Then in that case. This is his best year of his career. Yeah.

Like, no. He was like, Pete, Jay, ready. Merchant. I have no idea where I want to go. Is there a point guard like that kid? I don't,

I for sure don't want to take. Derek Bayless. You could have Jared Baylis. Come on, man. Wash Jared Baylal. Yeah, man. It's not his prime. Can I go?

No. No, of course not now. He's DPOI. D.O.I. Can't go drumming. Yeah. He was washed. They burned back multiple times for vibes.

No, man, I want Marco Bellinelli. Nah, you're sure. I want Marco Bellin. You can have Marco a shooting guard. Take them. Listen, that one year, 2018, special. You got to get ready?

You got the other one? Special. All right. Team number three. I have a vision of how I'm trying to build my team. I need shooters. You do, okay. You know what you got them.

Cleveland Cavaliers. Oh, perfect. I will take... There's a lot of watchplay. There's a lot of watch players. There are a lot of watch players. We need right now. Everybody eats.

You guys have Boogie and Horford. Give me wash shack. Ooh. Okay. Okay. Cool. That's comfy. That counts.

It's a very comfy pick. Okay. Okay. I see the vision. A lot of options I can go with, but I think I want the best option right now. Give me watch D. Wade alongside Paul George. Oh, that was trash. He was really watched.

I've never seen no one worse in a Wade jersey. I've never seen no one worse in a shirt jersey. Listen, Dean Wade has one is better. I'm going to stick to the copy strategy Donovan had. Put a horn for my power forward. Give me Ben Wallace at center. Ew. Watch Ben Wallace is still a big, strong force down love.

Yeah. Give you Wallace. That's what I was picking. Horford and Ben Wallace. I got, I got something going on. CP3 operated. I kind of got something going on.

I bet it can still catch lobs. I got Shaq. Hey, I'm locking Shaq the fuck up. No, you're not. With Ben Wallace and Horford, I'm locking him up.

I'm locking him up. He's a retirement home basketball, man. He's all in their watch version. Yeah, I just want to clarify. I found some catched lobs, locking him. Shack couldn't jump then.

I'm clearly lucky Jack. He was so. Shaq was so wide Right next to you This is the last version That can really jump wide He can reach up I don't know about jump

I'm crying Sixers again Back to the Sixers Fuck Oh repeat This is terrible A repeat of watch Jared Bailey's welcome to the TV

Oh man I can now I have the point I got to look at my phone Look at Because I don't even know Who else was even watched There on the wings

You picked Paul George this is so tough then that was like actually hard I can't remember these old teams sick man I almost want to do another team because we're fucked when you're thinking for everything

I got a name for me personally I got a name for me what do I even look up for this wash players on the Sixers let's go 22 Sixers roster You go research

We gotta go Great dome knowledge We gotta go research You got good dome knowledge A little bit That's crazy I'm a dome connoisseur What can I say

Oh, man. Specialize in Domali. I do feel like... Oh, okay. Fuck, that's nasty. I don't even think y'all are going to respect me if I do that.

You know what? Do the dishonorable thing. No, it's not dishonorable. It's just like not that good. Go, Danny Green. That's not bad at all. That's not bad. He was one.

He was definitely watched. I'm not saying no. Danny Green is always getting straight. Yeah. Yeah. Danny Green's fine. That's fine. You know what?

Give me Danny Green at my shooting guard, I guess. Dude, that's perfectly fine. Give me Danny Green. No one is complaining. Don't worry. Exactly. Oh, no way. This is right?

Danny Green? No one's ever said that. Danny Green. Good, Isaac, man. You good, man. Don't worry. No stress. I was worried for myself if I should pick the first name I see.

Because Danny Groot sucked. Oh, my one. Give me Kyle Lari. Lost as hell. He's not even playing for a real. He's on Amazon Prime. That's a good pick. That is a good pick.

Shout out to you. That's a good pick. I 100% need a point guard. I'm looking through this list. Scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. I was just scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. Fingers tied. Can't find anybody.

You know what? 2021 because this is the first name that I see. We are going to go with 2021 George Hill. Okay. Yeah, you can have 2021 George Hill. 2021, George Hill. That's a crazy. Pushback.

George Hill is a class. This is three years after he was scared at the free throw line in the finals. You can pick Doc Rivers. Coach Doc Rivers has your point guard. That's a crazy. No. Now, mind you, he did.

average one points than Kyle Lauerie. Well, I hope so. Kyle Lerick don't play, man. One team left. You boldly power forwards. I need a three. Give me some. Lakers.

Lakers. Oh, we're up. We're up. LeBron's not washed. I'm going to say it now. Doesn't count. Of course, of course. Doesn't count.

Was AD washed? Nope, not at all. AD doesn't count. He just kept getting hurt. I didn't know how we felt. You know how the community felt No washed Kareem He was still really good at the end

Yeah Now there's still moments where The end of Kareem was He was averaging like 13 points a game It was very clearly washed At the end Wow you compare what watchtack you really want Yeah I'll take I'll take

Kareem at the 4 This team is ridiculous Your team would be so garbage Nobody can dribble at all What you mean? His team is fucking horrible. I got George Hill in the lab. George Hill in the lab.

There's Marco and Clay coming off. We're saying sentences I've never been said before. I have power forward. Where are you going? This is a true floor general. Dude, where the fuck am I going, man? This is nasty. Live.

Yeah, Power forward. Got D-Wade, Paul George, and Buggie. Pick Mello. He had that pretty solid year with the Lakers. Because I was like, yo, D. Wade and Mello? They could play together. Look, he that wouldn't be too bad. I got a spacer defense.

Don't talk to me. It was like 2022 or 2021. Mello was not too bad. For two seconds, I thought about nasty man, honestly, too. But I'm like, that's awful. Yeah. Guys, low. Fuck, bro.

Damn, I wish I didn't have power for it to choose. But go ahead and give me mellow. Let's give you easy. Compi pick could have been Spencer Haywood. To want to be. Please. Please. No.

Give me wash Kobe Bryant. I'm my shooting guard and put Danny Green on a small forward. I get to see Kobe and CP3 together finally. Wash Kobe. Let's go. That was the time. I'm playing through veteran presence in Ben Wallace, Kobe, and CB 30. So is the winner who has the worst team or the best team?

Best thing. We just have team. Hey, Beasles, you're the new judge now. Who is the best team? These dudes are ass, dog. Exactly. Best team? I think Al Horford's the best player here.

Can't be Donovins. Can't be Donovins. Dude, he has George and Marco Melanelli has a backcourt. That Al Gore plays too ass, man. Kills you. I'm going to go Isaac. I'm going to go Isaac. Al Hover is the best player here.

How about his nuts, man. Get off his nuts. It's because I think Horfell. Hell, no. I got Paul George who's still like Just going back and forth all day Copy pick copy pick Get all this nuts man

I guess Most he makes sense Wake and slash a little bit Paul George can shoot None of these guys can do anything That they can do They're all washed I got away with the Horford pick

Horford was still good Isn't even fit Yeah He was the best player He was trashed that year He was trashed that year But he was great right after You get that specific person

You don't get the bounce back But was he trash or was he playing with a team that made no sense? Both. Okay. He went over to Germany. I don't think he did dumb line about that. Next thing we were going to do. Got that wrong.

Okay. I'm not about Germany now. Imagining him overseas. Bleacher report. Put out a list of their top 10 most overrated players in the NBA. Are you always rated slander? they hate it. Okay.

Always. So is we should report. You guys are going to guess the players from this list. Can you name all 10 that they called the most overrated in the league? All right. Number one or just on the list, Trayong. Trey Young is not on this list. Damn.

Wow. He hasn't played. He hasn't played. He hasn't played. So that kind of makes sense. Who are like someone who are hated guys? Sub bonus. So bonus is actually not on this list.

He very much should be. Shangoon. Shangun. He's not on this list. Palo. Palo is not on his list. What is? Wow.

Wow. What are we talking about? Are they saying actual good players Embed? Joe Embed's not on this list They're overrated players So they're players that they deem, you know What's actually mean?

Is that Kvinan's list? I think Zach McEan is on this list I lost my order real quick Zach Levine is That'll be crazy if he's on this list Because who the hell still think he's That's all that I will say Zach Levine is closer to the spirit

This list. Wow. Zach Levine is number three on this list Wow That's kind of crazy Number three That's crazy Number three is insane.

I don't know who thinks exactly like this no more. Maybe if you were like three, four years ago, yeah, you probably doing a little bit too much. Even last year, I could kind of see it.

But all right, exactly me. Larry Marketing. Lorry marketing is not on this list. Is Russle on this list? Russell Westberg is not on this list. They'll be disgusting. So, Colin 38 year old

Russell, O'Roy is that. So for the breakdown, look away, close your ass. I said, a little stuff for quick. For the breakdown of why Zach Levine is washed.

They said this. They said the Chicago Bulls showed a Zach Levine was the Sacramento Kings refused to between what the fuck? This screen is so small. El Reader.

No. El Reader. El Reader. Oh, no. It was so small. The Chicago Bull showed us who Zach Levine was. The Kings refused to believe them.

Zoom in. Bruce is the movie. shit. He said, Oh, don't look. He's not looking. He's wrong.

He put the fingers up and that shit is small. It was small, man. It was small. It was small. It was small. It was a fun player

to watch at times. His hops with the timbrewools were among the best in the league and 30-year-old him has long been a strong

three-point shooter. But when it comes to playing winning basketball, Zach Levine's game lose a lot of empty calories. Okay.

So you see the spirit of who they're going after. You sold me, so me, so me, I got a name. Zion Zion Williamson is on this list

What do you think he ranks? Top five. Four. Zion Williamson is number five on this list. Okay, cool. Top five. Makes sense.

Smooth, smooth. All right. So, Levine, do they think, it's kind of like an internet list, Rudy Gobert? Rudy Gobert is not on this list. Julius Randall? Julius Randall is on this list.

I'm just thinking about, I'm thinking about, okay. John Moran got to be on this list. Who did you say? Josh Giddy. Josh Giddy is not on this list. These are more bigger names. Tatum.

No. No. No, Jalen Brown. Y'all are just spouting names. No. I'm named All-Stars. Do they think that Donovan Mitchell's overrated? No, these are not, no. Because he ain't make it to the...

Dary's Garland. Y'all are terrible at this. No. What the fuck? LeBron. These are players that get slandered that are big names that are no longer that good, that are overrated because their name holds value.

Like exactly mean, like Zion. I'm surprised John Moran is not there. I'm going, I'm going through through the list. Cat? Cat is not on this list. Wow. Who did they? This one's supposed to be nasty, bro.

I feel like these are easier than we think, right? They're not very difficult at all, actually. Okay. No, bro. Do you say John Brown? Yeah. No, LeBron's out on this list. I said, yes.

No, Paolo on this list. Le Mello Ball. No. Andy Davis. Yes, Anthony Davis is on this list. They put Anthony Davis number two. The second most overrated player, obviously because of his availability,

because he still has that reputation of being a top-ton player, but hasn't given that value in several years now. Kevin Durant. why the fuck would Kevin Durant be on this list? You said old players against Slandering? No, not for his performance. Dremont.

Dremont is number one on this list. The most overrated player in the league according to BR. That's mad. Hey, man, that kind of trick word. How do you feel about that? They say you put on any team in the league, right? He's going to be Jared Vanderbilt. That's nasty.

Number one? Number one. That's crazy. Just a bad list. Without Paolo specific. I don't want to hate too much. It says, Green will go down in history as being one of this generation's greatest offenders, as well as the

most talented passer, who helped propel a Golden State Warriors dynasty to four championships. As for this season, however, Green's reputation no longer comes close to his actual production. An all defensive first team member just a season ago, Dremont's age is finally starting to show. The Warriors are only slightly better on defense than him on the court, and Green is only pulling in 0.8 steals per game, the lowest since his rookie year. BAM? No, Bam out of bio is not on this list. AT&T?

No, this is not a Twitter piece. Do they have James Hardin on this list? They do not have James Hardin on this list. What about Kauai? Not Kauai. You guys are not catching on to the pattern. We've named like 30 of the top players that can be seen as like overrated. All misses no hits.

That's crazy. This is stupid. That's crazy. No way they said K. That's not even up for discussion at all. You're looking too high. You're naming all these good players. Come on.

No, bam. Brandon Miller. I mean, you guys suck. Do you work? You guys are. No, we named like a lot of. Number nine and ten are former Lakers draft picks that have cachet because of that.

But maybe they're not so good. Ingram? You guys are horrible? D-Lo? Yes. Who the fuck is saying Kuzza is overrated, but come on now? This is dumb.

Who the fuck called Kuzma is 9 and Dianzor Russell is 10? Get a job for calling these two overrated right now. But I mean, Dilo, we thought maybe he could do something this year, give them some guard plays. This is terrible. Top ten, that's dumb. Jared Jackson Jr. Jared Jackson Jr. is on this list.

There you go. He's number eight. That's fair. Deserving pick. deserving pick that DPO wise carried his reputation Mark is smart No, McHale Bridges No god

You're 6, 7 and 4 Herg Jones Alright let's think for a second Why the fuck of Herb Jones be on this list They put 2026 D'Angelo Russell On this list Who's horrible and could probably get some people saying Maybe he can do some things

And can't do some things Do you think Dylan Brooks overrated? They do not, no I mean he's having a great year I don't think anybody would slander him at this point They better not So number seven and six And B's not on his list. I think he's too feel good

to slander him right now. Seven, there is one, two, what was number four? Make sure I know. There is an all-star on this list. Like a current all-star? Oh. Also, a little player on this list.

And there is two former high picks that have not necessarily. Tyler Hero. Tyler Hero's number seven. Okay. That's hilarious. Wait, Zach Rue, Rishishet? No.

That's really funny. Fuck out of here. I think Tyler Heroes overrated. Fares. Been injured all year. Couldn't really do anything. He made the All-Star team because of, like, some team success.

He had some good, good numbers. But I don't think anybody was like star lead, the lead. He's solidified or anything. Yeah. All right. So what's four and six? Where are the hits?

These are both big men that have all potential in the world, but aren't quite what you want them to be. Evan Mobley? No, not Evan Moly. Evan Moly. What? Aiden.

DeAndre ad in is number six on this list. Overrated. It's hilarious. This is a bad list. I mean, it makes sense, though. I mean, there's going to be people that can, no one.

It sounds like us. Like, there's some people that say, oh, get them in the right situation and it's not going too well. Situation is perfect. All right. Who's another big man? Big man who's overrated? They're not going to say Shangoon. No.

They're not going to say Shangoon. No, no, no, no, no. They're not going to do that. We're just going through, just going through Biggs. Shingu. They're not going to slander Jared Allen at that. Why are they going to be doing that? What's the slender Jared Allen?

Let's see. it's not yokic this guy is one of the most skilled bigs you've probably ever seen and his career hasn't gone well skilled bigs we've ever seen he can do things nobody else can ever do his career hasn't gone well I feel like he's trolling right now I'm not trying whatsoever

Porzingis this is Christos Porzziens the number four the fourth most overrated player in the league is that makes sense terrible list no that makes sense no this list is trash they must have made this list like a lot of time they made it about a week ago

this is terrible I don't know, mostly makes sense. Porzingis after 2024 was like, oh, this crazy weapon. The same prosenghis who got salary dumped not once but twice over the calendar of year. Twice. It's overrated. Nah. People don't, people's reputations and the way you talk about them don't quite catch up to reality so fast.

That's true for Levine. That's true for Draymond, for Prozingis, for Zion, for Aiton, for Jaron, for Coosma, for Deelow. You're defending BR too much. They were not clicking on this. Deelow is crazy. Coos is crazy too. They went up to nothing over the last year. Damn.

A lot of vitriol in the air. Come on, B.R. He's got a fucking idiots. You suck. Fire him. They're not up to date with discourse anymore.

That's all. Might as well just posted a note screenshot. He didn't just spent no time. Next thing we're going to do. I hate BR now. For this list. It made me lose.

Yeah, that's what it is. It did its job then. Okay. Yeah. There's a lot of talk about the 2020 NBA championship having an asterisk because it's in the bubble. About the 2019 Raptors are only getting lucky because all the warriors got hurt. What if every single NBA championship had an asterisk?

They all do. Oh, we could do that. We can do that. In fact, today, we're going to put an asterisk on the last 10 NBA championships. Okay. We're going to get up here. We're going to be dishonest. We're going to push discourse in a way of toxicity.

Dishonest. We're being real here. Never mind. We're going to be real. Talking about reality. Last 10 champions, what would be the asterick on that championship if you were to choose to hate on them? It's so easy. Okay.

Let's do it. So first up, 2025 Thunder. You're lucky Tyrus Halliboran blew his Achilles out in game seven. He was walking out down. Came out firing, knocking down three, he's left and right. They were going to beat y'all until the injury happened. No, this is so near and dear to his heart, too. It should have been the Knicks.

You're lucky you didn't have to see Brunson. Brunson would walk you down. Cat was walking through their doors. Yeah, I guess it has to be that, right? You said that. You were feeling it. I didn't say anything. He dragged it like crazy.

No, thanks. Exactly. That's exactly my point. I've been saying, I'm just doing the activity, y'all. Come on. Big facts. Big facts.

I'm literally just doing what is asked to be on the screen. But you know that thought of his head, too. As you were going a little off of my eyes. They go, shut the fuck up, bitch, man. Exactly. Working or not, right? Because I know. man not talking.

But yeah, it has to do that. Obviously, the Tiret Saliburn injury is one of the biggest swinging doors in modern NBA history in terms of you can't have a bigger leverage moment to be decided by such a clear outcome as an injury like that. Yep. And even the series before that too, amen.

Aaron Gordon did Damir take, he really like tore his hammy and he, did he miss a game? No. Played through it. Played through it. MPJ, played through one shoulder. The shooting shoulder specifically. Injury luck. Injury luck, sir. Injury luck.

Okay. 2024 Celtics. Nah, I can't talk now. Injury luck. We're going to talk about 25. Injury luck. Everybody they played. They did not have a healthy series the entire way through.

At one of the easiest Eastern Conference schedules we've seen in a long time. Exactly. Everybody that played in Eastern Conference was a motherfucking cupcake and you get to the finals and Luca was injured. Luca was playing on one leg. The entire time, man. Should not have happened at all. And you're lucky.

that Rudy Goberer hit that fade away or us the Nuggets would have been in the conference finals they would have won then you would have lost the yokeet. You got the biggest asterisk, you ducked the Yolkid smoke. You dug your competitor two rounds ago. I thought he was going to mention the Knicks again. I ain't cool. Guys, I'm just participating. I'm sticking straight on topic.

I have not mentioned them at all. I'll be back on your side. Not this round, though. This is, this was. the hardest one. It's probably the least ashtricy of all these of the 10 we're going to see here. But it would have to be the health. Yeah. Yeah. But they

kind of beat the fuck at everybody. It's kind of tough. Without proscenous most of the time. No. Yeah, without proscenous too. It's kind of tough. Hard to make an asterisk for this run. No, it was a weak run. It was weak in terms of the competition. But asterisk weakness is in an asterisk. What's the point of this video? It's an asterisk. There you go. Fuck them.

2023 Denver Nuggets. Oh, you did not play. You did not beat a 50 win team the entire way through week playing team merchants playing team merchant up and down into the finals you beat a playing team in the finals week your top competition fourth fifth best players you're facing off ass was Gabe Vincent

Caleb Martin oh yuck you nasty competition all these legends LeBron gets to the finals Kevin Rant walks through the doors Tim Duncan walks through the doors Yokush gets to the finals bam out of bio walks through the doors

Dude, Cupcake. Ruining NBA history, but this is one of the lowest viewed NBA finals of all time. Bro, we were having existential crisis in the league because nobody was watching the sport because he had Denver versus Miami.

You were so close to having the Celtics Lakers finals, too. That's what fits me off. First of all, we were never close to having that. That was never going to happen. The Lakers got embarrassed. They got swept. I'm just talking about round-wise.

One round-off. We were a couple, the last outcomes were differently. I see what you're saying. We had the Lakers never had a chance. Fugasey a ass run to the conference finals. But yeah, level of competition played is definitely which two times in a row,

level of competition plays the biggest astrogic. That being said, beat a 51 team, huh? How about that? 22 Warriors beating the Celtics in the finals. The baby Celtics. The baby Celtics. The Asthmaic happens two rounds prior.

Lucky John Morant got hurt. because John Morant goes breaks his hand in that series that series was going back and forth and as soon as John Moran got hurt you knew we didn't really have a chance weren't the nuggets like not healthy too I mean they weren't healthy throughout that whole year

they were newt this year they didn't really have a chance who did they play in the first round again they played the nuggets oh did they it was it was nuggets grisly yes yeah it's grisleysysm yeah okay okay okay day man you put a lot of teams of word out holding

it's definitely healthy because that's crazy. Yokish had no help. That's your asterisk. Yokish would have beat you if his teammates weren't injured. If Ramal Maria had an ACL, you got cooked in the first round.

Forget about that. Devin Booker and the Sun's folding to Luka in game seven. Oh, that's true. Because they were the two best teams in the West the entire year and the sons could not hold up their end of the bargain.

That would have actually been a series. Yeah. That's not really an ashton. What's the Ashford? We're just naming factors. This is a weak-ass Astra. John. John's injury.

Jaws and Jee's a road needle, I guess. But even though, would they have ones to? I guess. That's the best we got. What's the finals, Astrich? It's the Celtics. Oh, the Tatum's just not like that. Your biggest asterisk is Tatum.

Did not have ice in his veins. Tate was veins were warm as shit. It was no chance he was going to clutch. It was the best player. That's your asterisk is crazy. Your Ashton is you faced the Celtics before Jalen Brown and Tatum figured out how to coexist. Yeah, let me finish his name of this death no. Yeah.

And cry. They just beat them with stuff. Yeah. Okay. So wow, is there no Astrich? So 2022 Warriors? No. No.

Oh, your biggest Ashton. You got Autopor Jr. For 80 games healthy. Never happened again. You did blood magic. You cheated. 2021 bucks. This, in my opinion, is a bigger Mickey Mouse title than the bubble.

Everybody was hurting the playoff run. The Lakers, we went back to back but got nuked by injuries because the short and off season. You happened to stay healthy when everybody else fell apart. Astrik. Also, the entire regular season. season is thrown off. They were signing dudes off the street to come play. COVID 10 days?

Everybody was, everybody had COVID. Everybody had to go into quarantine. It was basically the Drew League for like six months. This is this. Oh, food gazing. Kevin Durant, teammates got hurt and then his big ass foot was on the line. Your asterisk is you shouldn't have even beat the Nets. Listen, man, you shouldn't even beat the Atlanta Hawks, right?

You lucky Trey Young stepped on the referee's fucking foot and twisted the living shit out of his fucking ankle, causing him to miss a game. Low key. This is back to back. series getting to the finals where the top player had yeah with the top player had some type of injury now listen aster talk to me yon is it hyper extend his knee and did come back within that scene series but i don't mean none of me right now asterick regardless of fact ask but this one actually if we're going to do the ashtrick thing this is the best one to actually do it for this season

was completely fucking ridiculous like everything went wrong for all the best teams yeah like we really if everything was healthy normal lakers nets should have been the clear finals a hundred That would have been so fucking good to see LeBron AD versus, you know, Katie is one of those teammates versus Katie and Kyrie. Like even if you had Hardin still got hurt. One of the Clippers going crazy too and then Kauai went now? Probably. Yeah, you're right.

Oh yeah. You're right. Paul was carrying him. Yeah. 21 Kauai was like the best version of himself. Yeah. And then Kauai got hurt in the playoffs. Wow.

All the best teams in the league. This year was this like year was so. It should have never been new, Yonis. Al-Lorz and Dylan will get people fits. Buckets, brats. It's crazy. Fits. 20-20 Lakers.

Now obviously the bubble thing is people are going to say what's a different asteric? You can't. This is the asterisk. What you mean? Aside from the world shutting down. Yeah, but like, duh, outside of that,

if we had to give another one, get creative. Come on, man. It's the biggest one. Duh, that's what I can talk about it. Oh, second ashtrik, outside the bubble. Clippers, mentally charmin. Your biggest competition, not built for the moment,

fell apart in the playoffs. Your only comp were playoff chokers. They were not there, man. They weren't trying to be there. Lou Wilson, yeah, no one was locked in, but we had Disney right now. Who was supposed to be the best teams of the East? Because the heat got out. I forgot.

In 2020, who were you expecting to see them on the other side? The Raptors. Oh, no, we're expecting to see the Bucks. Biggest Ashik is Janus was not ready for the moment yet. He got beat up by the wall. We got to see the Miami Heat in there. They were outside the plane at that time. With like the three-seat or something like that?

Maybe something like that. Yeah, we've got to see a mediocre team in the finals that you obviously bludgeoned because Janus wasn't ready. Janice and Kau both failed to meet the moment. I think the, I think the heat with the six seats. Yeah. Yeah. I think they were.

Yeah. Dan, so damn near a playing team. Damn near. They won a home second NBA championship, man. I don't count. Yeah, you guys are playing in front of virtual fans. Yeah, Westwick screwing that screens and babies. Come on now.

Can I join the crowd? Look, how good Caruso looks and the Lakers at. Playing in a goddamn empty gym. Come on, man. I know. It's practice. It's pickup. Come on, man.

That's Fugazi. 2019 Raptors Come on man Yeah let's just Are you the biggest assort Yeah let's just take away one of You know The 12 best players of all time

New Kids Achilles Then we have one of the three best shooters of all time Let's just take away his ACL And then just leave Steph Curry out there by himself They were playing a box of one He's got 49 You're lucky You're lucky

It still went to six Yeah Well to be fair those guys got hurt not in game one true Clay was having a game six moment he was having game six Clay and then tore his his ACL in game six

they were they were fin of force to game seven yeah Katie got hurt in in game one whenever I think of this seal I just or in game two I can't remember because he came back he came back in one of those years yeah he got injured before in those early around

so you missed some time came back too early yeah it was either game one or game two yeah I can't remember I remember Clay Thompson was game six like you said I can't remember when Clay got hurt I mean, Katie. Oh, no. Think about the drink meme. Oh, I can't believe it.

Yeah, you're lucky. Kauai. You should never have this ring. Give it to Steph right now. Damn. Take it off his finger. Take it off your ring. Damn.

2018 Warriors. Chris Paul. Correct. Chris Paul hurt his hamstring. You should have lost the Rockets. James Hardin should have made his legacy cemented as one of the greatest players of all time. He had your number.

And then he missed 27 straight threes along with the rest of the two. God damn it. And Chris Paul heard his handstring was a shell of himself. Couldn't blow by anybody. If James Harden had a little bit of help in the other guard spot, maybe they would have made two of those threes and they were to one. J.R. Smith, for getting time and score. They could have stolen game one. And then LeBron would have never gotten so mad that he broke his hand. Anything could happen then. Anything can happen. They might have stolen game two. And game three. And might have stolen game four.

You might have got swept on accident. On accident. They're not even a sweep top of team and they might just left you. We didn't even mention George Hill being too scared for the moment, missing those frito. Pissing down his leg. You might guys slept in three games. Come on, man. Suisse and George Hill gets to just go, Scott Freight.

Yeah. Gets to live his life. No one talks about that ever. It's hilarious. 2017 Warriors. Tired to see these guys, man. Zaza Pertullia. Step in under Kauai's foot.

He killed. Because they were dominating them in game one. They were up by like 20. then the run happens afterwards and then Kauai misses the rest of the series the spurs get swept. It is what it is. Also, Ashtrick, once in a generation cap spike that allowed you to get Kevin Durant

should have never happened. Any logical commissioner wouldn't have done it that way. They would have evened out the cap distribution so you don't get $50 million in cap space to the champions. It's ridiculous. Clear Ashik. No league, man. Not fair. Oh, boo-hoo. This guy's a dick eater. It's not in his team.

Not even a Warriors, man. You know, that was crazy. Oh, my God. Oh, boo. Do you understand

the players on my team that I was room for at this time? I was bad. Who was it? Alonzo Treer? Yes. Yes.

I was in college trying to try to convince myself. I was convinced myself that Alonzo Treer was the point guard of the future.

Was Ron Baker like this era or two? Somewhere around there. Oh, sick. Ron Baker. Cleantany, What's that dude name? He has a weird, like...

He shoots really weird. That is not why he was going. He shoots really weird. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah. The guy that shoots weird. Some, something like that. Is this the Quincy years?

No. No. That winning was Trayford. Randall years. No. No, this is pre-Julist Randall. Oh, it was pre-Randle? Yeah.

This is like Tim Hardaway Jr. Towards the very end of the Portsmouth. Kyle O'Quinn years. Yeah. And he still, Porzingis? yes 2017 yes yeah yes god mellow damn 2016 calves

no aster what are you talking about the most flawless championship the most natural championship uh draymond yeah yeah whatever draymond and yeah whatever to beat a 73 and 19 what you're talking about you want now man you want to call them eaters it's fast yeah yeah all eat man

big a districts man so now I can't eat what do you mean Dremont should never go on to so suspended drunk that's what's what bad for his sustenance. Anyways, if Dremont could control his actions,

then he wouldn't have gotten to spend it. When is your Montgomery never controlled his accidents? That's not, it's not, you should never assume what's going to happen. Also, listen, Stephen Clay, both of them, both of them were hurt.

Skill issue. Get the hell out of you. They both have to. I haven't heard the Clay one. Oh, now Clay's hurt. Of course. I've heard the great one. I haven't heard the Clay was iron, man.

He never got hurt. No, to me as well, Steve Kurt was sick, I guess. Zaza had the flu, whatever. He had to drive through rain. Get the fuck out of him. We guess Ironically

We guess Every 131 team This was the year That Steve Kriar Had to miss the first 25 games in the year It's always something So he actually did have major issues

This year Why did he miss those games The one time it was documented It was either He either had like some like back issue Or something Some like Oh yeah

My team about Luke Walting He thought he was a reason They're winning games He's a terrible coach It's hilarious Man look Where's Luke Walton now Is he coaching still?

Yeah He's not someone bench running. I've seen him recently. I know he's the Kings for a little while. That was like several coaching staffs ago. You've seen him recently. Like you saw him on the street. No, I saw him talking sit to some player recently. Saw him on the street. What the fuck?

That's the last one. Where is Luke Ward now? I don't know. I saw him recently though. Yeah, he's an assistant coach for the pistons. Makes sense. Oh, I wonder why the pistons. Cool. Good for him. I was just talking to him the other day. I'm crying.

Next thing we're going to do, Michael Jordan is commonly referred to as the goat. Shaq referred to as dominance. Every NBA legend can be talked about in one word. Today, we're going to describe every superstar in the league today with one word. Okay, let's do it. Just one. Janus.

Manipulator. Dishonest. Indecisive. Indecisive is the right word. Outside of like freak. But for this moment in 2020, gas lighter. Gaslighter.

Love me, love me, love me not. Love me, love me not. You decide. Do you want me or not? Performative.

Look, even outside of this year, performative is a good word. Yeah, with that fucking, with that movie Wolf Wall Street thing that he posted,

come on, performative. Come on, man. Pretending he had no parts in the trade conversations. He was waiting for that stuff. Oh, performative. Investor.

he never had a smoothie come on dog you say for the jump he was performing that's the one I actually can't believe never come on dog they weren't eaten

he wasn't eaten Nicole Yokic there's like a real thing I know Nicole Yokic too lackadaisical

yeah it's Relax. Just natural. D&D. He just stays on D&D mentally. Naturally always. Is he too cool for school?

Do you want him to be a little more? Shalant. Yeah, should he be more shalant? Shalant. Do we have a problem with the fact there's not enough shalant in his bones? Yeah, is he lacking shallot? Definitely.

It's a lot of word. It's got to be right. It's got to be right. Yeah. I feel like it. I feel like, yeah. I bet it's a word. I'm a look at it.

I bet it's a word. Should he begin? Shalot maxing. Yes. 100%. We've gone too far with language. Just putting words together. What else can I say?

Goat. Skilled. Genius. Beautiful. Beautiful. Thank you going. Horses. So, no.

So shallot isn't a word. What? It's just. Yeah. It's just. It's just slang based off of Notchalant. So why did we get to a place?

The fuck is nonchalant? I don't know. Why do we get to a place where we made a word like nonchalant where we add non and another word but the other word doesn't exist? That's why would we have done that? Come on, man. I don't know. What is the origins of nonchalant?

Who made, who made this? All right. So nonchalant is here. I'm trying to look up like the root word. That's ridiculous. That doesn't make any sense. It's not. It's not showing.

English language, man. All this false. Hey, Shalon. Ponsis scheme? You got to get to the bottom of nonchalant. Yo, Shalant's money laundering. Shea Gilders Alexander. Grifter.

Oh, come on. Smooth. Is he still O-Roman, or is that done? People are still mean to him now. I think they don't even consider him to have Oro. They just hate him. Yeah. Hateable, that's the word.

For some reason, he's become the most hated player in the league. Hateable. I mean, iconic in his own ways. Yeah. I think being so good makes you hateable too, so hateable is definitely the word. Just wait until zero comes back. His name is Jason. No one calls him zero.

No one calls him zero. No one calls him being a Nilever. I know zero trying to be cool. Hey, maybe Jason. Yeah. You stop that right now. That's zero. That's the whole nine thing, bro.

I just went, mm-hmm. I thought he said Z-R-O, zero. I was like, who is zero? I thought he was doing like a D-Rose type thing. But with Z? I was like, who is zero? You said Z-R-O? Like zero, like D-R-O.

I was thinking. God. I was like, who is zero? The 2000 Houston dropper zero? I'll approve my point, man.

Just wait until he comes back. That most hated in the league and is over. You're fucking Garo is crazy. He's galloping on Jason's head of his dick

about being hated. I'm the most hated actually. Fuck out of here. Kiss for fuck. He can't. Point proving, y'all. Point fucking proving.

Lucky, you're right. Luca, you're right. I don't know 77's kind of tough I don't know the word I'm crying 77's tough

what's the word for like ups and downs like has his goods roller coaster yeah but not it's a constant state of having pros and cons inconsistent no because he's consistent

fluctuating nope you're saying the same thing over and over mixed back like he has his strength and has his weaknesses but it's not volatile. Because he never changes.

It's not volatile though because he's always the same player. He has a lot of weaknesses. Well, if you're volatile, you're not the same. So he's not volatile. What I'm saying?

No. That's what I'm saying. If you're volatile, you're up and down. But he's not up and down. I'm saying. He has strengths and weaknesses that are both there at all times.

You know what I'm saying? Like I'm saying he's the most skill player to have glaring weaknesses. How do we describe that? Hardin. Okay. Two words. White Harding.

I don't know. Detracting. Damning. I think detracting means coming in, like a roof. Your flaws are detracting. You find your own word, then. I'm not going to say you're trying to find your word for you. I'm going to give you five options for a word.

You didn't like any one of them. That's all you get. None of the words describe what I was asking for. Go get a dictionary. You find your own word. Do that. Skilled, probably. Is he's probably to be known as one of the most skilled players of all time?

Lame ass word. skilled it's probably the right for him though because whether or not he's good enough to ever accomplish we want to do it's always going to be like one of the most skilled guys controversial i think is he though i was thinking like is he like overall i think so because i still think you have like the can you win with his style of play and you have you have luca and you have like awesome reaches leveled up you still have lebron for what whatever is that worth and like the lakers are bad and his defense is not amazing individually and people are going to look at them and be like their defense sucks because of him.

So it's like, it's always back and forth. It's always something about Luca. Anthony Edwards. Yucatan. I'll say, Yucatan. Prototype. How's a good sound.

Prototype is the word. He is everything people want from the face of the league, from the best player in the league at that shooting guard position. He checks all the boxes. Or a man right now. Yeah, ORA is also obviously always the word. Unlimited, bro. Unlimited potential.

You can do anything and everything on the core. bro. Now we're glazing. I don't know too many players who can come into the league but you know what? I want to be a 40% three-point shooter.

Take eight, nine three's a game. I got to be so hot. Unlimited. I got to be so hot. And he was like, you and everything. He was like,

at the other words, God. What? You can do anything. Y'all were dragging it. Drag. I just laughed because I saw his face. I saw his reaction.

We are just waiting to drag somebody. That was crazy. That's crazy, right? I see what you mean. Develop the post game in a singular all season two. Come on, man. Improvements will be the story of Anthony Edwards, just constantly adding on. Whether or not those improvements are unlimited, I don't know.

Let me see improve it. Let me see you prove there's limits Show me a limit I'm so called Goku at this point That's exactly the energy you gave No matter of the opponents No matter the power level Who can tell you to rise

He's fucking Spider-Man Oh my fuck Victor Women Yama Unlimited Deity You guys are trying to cover up a new religion here I remember that bra on some life's you that we did

They are disgusting. Enlightened. We got to convert people to the temple of Wembe. Yeah, nasty. Yeah, enlightening, I would say, for Wembe. Crazy. Going bald midseason,

I don't think there will be in any, like more young stars ever do that. I'll say spark. He's exactly what the NBA needed to spark some new life into it. Give us a face of league type guy that's willing to say all the right things, play the role you need from the guy

who cares about everything. He's a spark. At this point, he is the NBA savior. The spark. Just call him the sun, man. this. Yeah, low key.

H2O. He's filled it into my veins, filling it into my lungs, is everything I need in life. Also, imagine if Ant went bald. If Ant went bald midseason? This is Jordan.

LeBron James. Fating. Oh, man. Yeah. Sit down. Oh, that's two words. Two words. Yeah.

Yeah, that's, that would be lower. Yeah, man. You still have, you still have Knights Road. You see LeBron turn up, but it's just not the same. Yeah, it's nearing its end pretty clearly. Washed, man. This is the year where, like, we've been saying it year by year, it feels more by year, it feels like we're in the final chapter.

For real, like, it feels like he could very much retire in three months. Waning. Wayning. Good vocaboard. One good word for him, brus. You know about moon cycles. Good one. Okay.

I was thinking at the end, but you're right, that goes up, not down. So what's the opposite of a crescendo in musical terms? De crescendo. Dechrescendo? Yeah. Dechrescendo. You know that. Jay Cole.

All right. Steph Curry. Hopeless. Damn. Alone. Still? Solo. Huh?

Solitude. It's Amber Alert. Facts. It's fine. His help. Help. Help. Help.

Do I have to be loyal? Guys, I don't like it here. It's cold. But it's all you can talk about with 2026, Steph Curry. It's the lack of help, the lack of presence around him, and the fact that we all kind of just got to say it is what it is. With any other star, we might fire us in trade convos. We all know it's not happening.

It simply is what it is. Bam. Inevitable. The conclusion is inevitable. that he's going to go outside. Come on, Seth. Kevin Durant. Snake.

Dang. Still a snake. That's a 10-year nickname, bro. You keep running right. It's crazy. Every time you shake it, every time you get off the snake pipe, you go right back.

It's a lifelong addiction to unloyalty. Come, man. He injects toxicity into his veins. Can't scratch that itch. Come on, man. Twitter. Burner. Dms.

Burner. get off my dickerson one word Dickerson Dickerson I'm gonna refer to him forever and I was just Dickerson Get off my dickerson Mr. Dickerson

Cocaine Cocaine Triple double bear Crazy right But yeah Just unloyal It feels like He feels like

He'll say anything about anybody Not a great teammate I'd want to have in my side Selfish He'd say he's keeping it real though Yeah that's a problem Keep it if two real It's absolutely a problem

When keeping it real goes wrong Mm Sometimes you need manners. Sometimes it's good to not be 100% real. I see a word of where like they fucking, the Houston Rockets crash and burn out and he request his trade during the offseason. I can see that. He's a nomad.

A nomad. A nomad. He needs to be a word. Is he going to request a trade or are they going to shop them because shit got left? Either way, both. He's to get ahead of it and be like, actually, I want to go. The James Hardin. You're going to test a group chat.

Jabari over me? Facts. Kauai Leonard. Resurgence. Correct. Come back. Confusing. Silent.

Trees. Correct. Always. Always trees. Scheming. I'll say selfish. Always scheming. But in a good way.

Like I aspire to be that level of self-preservation. I forget how, bro, hands. Look. He's swallowing the ball right now. I saw a picture. Hey, yo. I saw a picture of him and Kevin Durant high-fiving. Yeah.

It looked like a child next to Kevin Durant. That shit is crazy as hell. Kevin Durant's seven feet tall. Dude, could anyone survive a slap from Kauai Leonard? No, your head's falling off. You can't decapitated game of throne style. You can't move again for the rest of your life. It's bad.

He would slap you and his fingers would like wrap around the other side of the other. His fingers would touch each other. We feel like a semi-truck just hit the shit out of you. He's like gripping a pencil for him. It's your head. Damn, man. That's a crazy visual. Like, could he like, what's the widest thing he could wrap his hands around?

Honestly, I don't know. A fridge? I think a gallon of milk. Oh, easily. I feel like, could you do to water milk? I mean, could you come closer to a gallon milk? I don't think a gallon milk is that big. No, I can't.

No, a gallon of milk is. Okay. I've never tried to grab a cowl of milk. So I don't know. Coi could definitely do that. Could he wrap his hands around Mo's head? No. Yes.

Easily. His head is ginormous. Here to here? Yeah. But two hands, easily. Oh, two hands. Could he wrap his head or his hands around your head? Just one hand.

Maybe. Maybe. Just palm your entire face. Yeah. He don't see no features but his hair. He's going to dribble him? Maybe. Jason Tatum.

All right, here we go. No, go ahead. Say words. Zero. My word, man. Misunderstood. Farming. What is misunderstood about Tatum?

He wants you to understand him so bad. He's a cool guy, man. Y'all don't understand that he's the chosen one. Sorry. Doing car wheels on him, man. All these different things. Come on. Yeah.

Farmer. Constantly trying to war farm, trying to clip farm. Never goes well, but he tries. Wannabe, man. Damn. Always wanted to be Kobe.

Can't sniff that type of war, man. Be yourself. Yeah. Inauthentic. Yeah, inauthentic. He probably has the biggest gulf between his likability and his skill,

I can remember, just because, like, he's so good, but he has the persona of somebody so bad. Right. He has the prototypical, like he's a wing,

can dribble, dunk on people, play defense. Despite not being problematic. Because I just said that, there's a lot of really good players that are terrible people. So you hate them? He's a great guy.

Yeah. The other things Anthony Edwards has done in this world compared to Tatum, Brad. Nobody cares. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I guess, yeah. Inauthentic is wrong.

Perception is probably the word. Yeah. Or presentation. Bad rap is really how we describe him. It doesn't really make sense why everybody dislikes him. It just is what it is. Yeah.

Misunderstubest. sure sure just be telling himself that no I think he's extremely understood I think he's very interested and people understand they don't like him very much Fares Jaylon Brunson

Savior Savior New York basketball Scammed Captain No man he got scammed Dude I saw a tweet While you're in the bathroom earlier He's now eligible in the year 28 for like a four year

$170 million Tyler contract I hate you. He stays tinkling. I'm sorry. You're in the bathroom. I saw you run a part of the conversation. He's eligible for a four-year or five-year, $417 million contract. That's over $80 million a year. They're not paying him that.

Breaded. No, he's not getting that money. He got scammed. He gave over $100 million. Selfless. That's all I'm hearing. He's willing to sacrifice for the team to bring in Gershon Yabuselli. They couldn't get Gershon Yabuselli without his sacrifice.

Tactical. No, man. Yes. Because now he's probably doing the same thing that Kauai was doing, but he sent out a couple tweets probably. He's probably planted a tree and he's going to get that money. Fair. Tyrese Halliburton.

Man. Unique. What's the word? He goes down his own path, plays his own style. Nobody's like him in the league. Old school, Loki. Yeah, kind of. Oh, it's two words, but.

You've been doing it the whole time. It's okay, though. We can give you a two-war past. I have. You get two, we get one. Avenging. It's like a handicapped in golf. You got a one word handicap.

Get the little side in the bowling alley. Oh, yeah. Buppers. Give him a little boy. Give him a break. He's two. He's to catch up. He's new here.

Old school is right, though. He feels like he's from a bygone era of what would it be like of these past first point guards that don't exist today. up in this league today. Madness. I don't think I've ever seen until like the year 2011, of course, a run, a single handle run where it was just like, so unexpected from player of his level. Yeah.

Ridiculous. Tri-11. What was the other one? Dirk. Dirk. Yeah. That's not unexpected though. Yes, it was.

Hell yeah. To win? To win? No. Like, okay, like to win, yes. But even like the run, it's still like. Oh, you're talking about the pathway. Yeah.

Gotcha. What do you mean? That's super unexpected. They weren't supposed to win those series, all of them. And Dirk wasn't exactly the label. to play off Riser at the time to have that kind of crazy run. No, but it's not. I think Dirk in 2011 is much different than Tyrese and like last year.

In terms of like the way that we see Dirk and like what he ultimately is capable of where it's like, can you put it together and do it because we know you have the ability as opposed to. Sure. I had no idea that that Halliburton could knock out all these clutch shots, all this stuff. That part's different because Dirk been in the league for a long time. But I think outside of that, I'll admit, it was pretty similar. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Riser. Ked Cunningham NIM Tough He's just tough He's tough

He's very tough Yeah Horror I can't think of him Like many more words For him for real honestly Eyes Mm

Okay True tough Yeah he's just tough Help Help him Someone dribble Shoot Big

Bays Ked NM Tough Hooper That story of his life That's it. He's being tough. Just being tough. Sometimes it's all you need.

You can get real far reputation-wise, but being tough. Look at Tatum. Not tough. Much better at basketball. Not tough. As that first, far's true. It's all I care about. No, well, still not tough.

There'd never be a day he's respected like Kate's respected. That's fine. That's honestly true. And Kate hasn't even won a playoff series yet. And I'm making jokes about Cade having all these, like, aura points. Tatum's also conventionally attracted. No tough. Yeah.

Not tough. Man. You know, hardest to be very good at basketball, play for the Celtics, be 6-8, light skin,

and not be tough? And not be the face of the league? Yeah. I mean, the face of untuff at that. Yeah, man. Brother,

you won a championship and got benched in the Olympics. And bam a water, nigger. That should be fracking. You know. Zero save me, man.

Bro, shut up. Stop saying that. Oh, my God. Stop saying that. That's the last one. Hand Bama water. Hand Bama water. Next thing we're going to do.

We're going to play the five category game with B. Souls hosting it. How this works. B. Sol has picked five categories and it's pick five players, one for each category. he's going to tell us a player, I mean, he tells us a category. We write down a player on our whiteboard and reveal it. And the goal here is to not say the same name that Beesholds picked.

Okay. All right. First category. First category is... We got a share a marker, right? No, you have one. It's right there. Bro, boy.

It's right there in the corner. In the corner, the corner of the church. Two-shall marker. It's been a tough times, bro. No, we're not. We got a couple dollars. All right. You all ready?

Yep. All right. First category is a player who won finals MVP. At any point? Any point. Okay. Finals MVP. I'm gonna pull a name. I'm certain you don't say. If you say this name, I'll take the L.

Okay, sir. He's been a Jaylor Brown. Fucking Glazer. I got my name. You all ready? Oh, I just wrote marker on my shirt. Fuck. That was stupid.

How did you do that all the way up there? It's right here. And I lean down to pick up my napkin. Oh. And I put it on my arm. Unfortunate. I was about to say it's a unique place. Yeah, it honestly was.

All right. Got our name. Three, two, one. Jerry West. LeBron. Hakeem. Nope. All they got all of us safe.

Okay. Who's the player? The player is Kobe Bryant. Okay. Kobe Bryant. Okay. Yes, yes, yes. Okay.

Dollar's safe for now. I really figured he's going to put you in the brand. He ain't got nothing in here before 2000. Bro. Chill. You put all the strats. All right. Well, next category is

a player who made the all-Rookie team last year, 2025. Oh, shit. The first team? No, just all-Rookie team. Okay, so there's two teams. So either team? Yeah.

Okay, cool. I forgot the exact team. Me too, but we can... Yeah. Okay, I think I know a player who's probably on there. Same. Can't remember the exact team,

but you know the rookies. We guess class. Why about Three, two, one Sarr clinging, Jalen Wells Y'all are all safe again. The name is Steph Castle. Okay, naturally.

I almost wrote him for two seconds. We good, we good, we safe. Does Sarr make it? Yes, 100%. Okay, I'm going to say yes. He made one of them. 100% his numbers are real bad he made one of them the clicking one of them he had to I think yeah I don't think you them had to he played a second

you know sorry sorry sorry made one totally about 14 points or game something like that efficiency was dog shit and again it may not have been the the first team yeah yeah look at all rookie teams let's verify see if maybe I got smoked okay 2025 all rookie teams All right, so it was, yeah, Sarr made it, John Wells made it. Second team, this is my fucking hope. Klingen made it. Okay, there you go.

Yeah, modest, Bub. His eyes got big. Had to scroll over. Oh, no. Okay, round through. Who we got? All right. An NBA player who's made a rap song.

Ooh. There's a lot of them out there. Do a deep cut. Come on. who is he going to pick? Oh my goodness Deep cut There's a lot

Okay Alright got it Three two one Ron our test Steph Curry Run our test Oh shit No

y'all are all safe Okay The name is This might be a deep cut Kevin Durant Okay I almost wrote Kevin Durant I think God

I had a feeling He's been on top of mind For you I don't know why He's on top of mind But I was Had a feeling I don't know

For two second I almost wrote Jalen Derry for Because he did The Blackboard Max Oh yeah Yeah, yeah I'm smart

Actually No one of it wouldn't Because he probably Would be thinking About that It's a Twitch head I was even gonna put Artesia shock

Yeah Okay I'm in the solid All right The champions Next one Going hard Lifestyle

Bill Yeah He's mumbling Oh Oh Is that the The championship song

For Ron our test Yes Mm-hmm Okay Okay 2K10 Classic All right

Next one A player Who's been on the slam dunk magazine. On slam magazine? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, slam magazine.

I don't know. Anybody's been. A player who's been on slam magazine. I know one. Okay. Like everybody has. I know one. What I mean?

Everybody has. This could be anything. I think I got it. All right. I think I could just guess LeBron and be right. Yeah. I don't even know. Okay.

Three, two, one. Lamar Odom. Ben Simmons. Austin Reeves. He has? Yeah. Oh, you got it. I saw.

I don't know because they did like a silhouette thing. I guess who's players? Yeah. He's the most recent one. You're right. Y'all are safe again. It is Jalen Dern. Ah, okay.

Yeah, we're close with that. We knew you were glazing. Yeah, we knew you were going to do Jalen girl. I thought you were going to glaze his rapability. Nope, you just think he's hot. It's just him Ewan again. We are noticing. The second Jalen Duren episode in a row with him Ewing.

Uh-huh. Look at him. Last category. Okay. Best franchise ever. Best franchise ever. Yeah. It's a team.

It's a team. But it's subjective. Like NBA franchise? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What would I say? I don't think this works.

I don't know how this makes sense. You might see. You're probably going to say the Celtics and where we would win because we're going to say something else. Like the Lake Er and the Oregon, I don't know. The Miami Heat. I got my answer. Does he know we're going to say Celtics? I got my answer.

He should know that we're not going to say Celtics. Okay. I wrote the goat franchise. Okay What kind of these mind games Exactly There's only two options We're choosing between Lakers or Celtics

Obviously I'm changing last minute Which one did he write? I wonder I wonder which one he wrote Alright let's do it Let's do it I'm locked in now Three two one

Spurs Lakers I wrote the Celtics Isaac you are out Ooh It's the Lakers And that's fine I kind of figured you might do

Reversearchology But I'm not going out saying the Celtics are the greatest franchise So I will take that. You know, you're right. I did bend my moors. I had to fall on my sword.

And I'll do it again. Something I never wanted to do. Also, we knew he was going to say such things. I could just put like the Timberwolves or something. Yeah, that's what I was like. Whatever. I'm happy to go out in round five. Fuck, man.

Next thing we were going to do. A few weeks ago, I had you guys rank, or we did it together. The last 10, Lakers, draft picks from the first round. Today, we're going to do that again. But we're going to do it with the last 10 Golden State Warriors first round picks. We got to rank them 1 through 10. I'm not going to lie, y'all.

This list is fucking crazy. Donovan, this is going to be one of the nasty lists that we've seen. Absolutely. I don't like this. There are players on the list you've never heard of, I'm sure. Okay. Let's do it. So 1 through 10.

Who is the best, like, who is the best Warriors draft pick of the last 10 first round picks? Kavanaugh. It's Kvon. It's Kvon Luni or it's Jordan Poole? Jordanpool was integral doing the winning a championship So was Kavana Probably less integral though

They could get 10 other dudes in the league We'd do Kvon's job What That's the most force whatever You know Kavan matter placeable No I'm not No I'm not First of all

Y'all don't remember He was out here flipping the series Kavon Loon is out here getting 22 rebounds Dominating the Grizzlies Oh my God And Kovans out here And Kovan has been here

Longer and contributed to more championship Loonie will go Kvon Luni And Jordan Pool 2, right? You're going to stop disrespecting Kavana. Because we've done center rankings and you've disrespected him before. You've boosted him because you wanted to hate on other players. You got to relax.

No, he just has like a religious love for Kavanaugh. I forget you do love Kavon. You got to relax. He has posters in his room. Oh, I thought you were just defending Kavanaughan. You think he's the best traffic? They also have a list of not great players. Oh, yeah.

It's him of Jordan Poole. It's not hard. Number three. Do we get into Pajemski, Moses Moody, Moody debate? Number three is definitely. come bucking I think it might be pods because he can create a bit better

he is not there for the top three Moses Moody has the highest floor Paws is at really good moments with some really low lows I think if I wanted stability I'm taking Moses Moody

but if I'm going for just like overall ceiling and potential whatever that means for pods I would take that sure I'll take pots because in the right role like pots can do

some way I guess I'll take Pots okay Moses Moody 4 yeah and now does can we get to go 5 no or do you go Damian Jones James. James.

James. James. Jacob Evans. Yo, Damian Jones is Caduce man. I was always watching him and be like, why isn't he so good? He's Caduce Big.

Like jumping out. No, I think five we have to go. John the Cominka. Yeah, five is coming. No, he's almost like. Who fuck do you want to go next to?

Who is in that Timberwell's Jersey? I don't know who that is. That's Jacob Evans. That's Jacob Evans. He did. I have no idea. I'm not going to live. Jacob Evans is close to 10 than he is five.

Is that the homie, Quinn Cook? No, it's not Quinn Cook. I guess Jacob Evans. I'm not listening at all. Yo, who's that? Is that? Namer?

That's not Bailey. Nope. It's Namanha Netovic. He played 22 games in 2014 and got cut the next summer because he was partying too much. Ten. He's ten. He's ten. I don't know who that is.

That's ten. That's Bailey. It's man. Okay, cool. I think going back to the bottom. After that, we go Jacob Evans at nine. Yes. And then Patrick Baldwin Jr.

played there for one season and was decent. I guess. we go him at eight or do you go James Wiseman at eights? No, I think James Watson is a champion. Magic Baldwin Jr. That's a name. The way that we're hyping him up, oh, we got a steal. Don't shut the fuck up, bro.

KD. Conversio, shut the fuck up, man. Squealing is frying me. KD. Cubs is real, though. 5, 6, 7, Kaminga, Wiseman, Davian Jones. You know what? Fine.

Can I use a bathroom while y'all finishes? To me, you could be a five. Drawing up some shit. Come here. Good, Wiseman at six. I low-key, Davian Jones is better. No. No, you don't believe that.

Damien Jones gave me some decent minutes on the Lakers. He's just big. And what is James Wiseman? He's big and fast. The difference. Hey, my favorite says, just for the last spot. All right, let's do it. No, you said Damien Jones gave you good minutes on the Lakers, not on the Warriors.

So three. Rock paper scissors shoot. Rock paper scissors shoot. Rock paper scissors shoot. I went. No, Damien Jones. You have to do two out of three.

No, I don't. Damien Jones six. James Wiseman. It's a TikTok. It can't be too long. You have to do two out of three. Damian Jones six, James Wiseman seven. This is an unrespected.

No one believes that. Who had a better career? James Wiseman. He's a champion, too. Hey, what the fuck are you talking about right now? What the fuck are you talking about? Who had a better career? Why would James Wyme had a better career?

He was a top pick. And also. He won a championship in his rookie year. It's going to be a long offseason, y'all. Yeah, man. I'm so glad games come back today. David Jones is there for 17, 18. It was me?

He's drafted in 16. Zero impact. What are you fucking talking about? Gave people hope. No, he did. Bro, he, you know, you weren't there. Yeah, man. Wiseman wins.

Wiseman is better. Whatever. I can't imagine defending Wiseman's conversation. You're defending Damien. Why are you hating on Wiseman? Am I What the fucking Why am I

He was like 10 times better 10 times better He wanted to see them run once Oh I thought you just like like them or something No he's literally gas like no Wiseman is going to be better though He is better I don't know if you know this

I don't know if you know this We've never been good for a second in the NBA That's not true In Damien He's especially the Warriors He's had moments he's come on he's

I remember when I watched one game he gave the Brooklyn that's like 21 points or 17 points that's right that one game

yeah yeah let's talk about that for real I don't even know Damien Jones yeah he's better

Damian Jones yeah he's got man Damia Jones and Loki is Dispike I feel like I'm going insane right now nothing is disrespectful

to Chase Wiseman his career has 20% It kind of is. It's 20? Yeah. But it was on the Atlanta Hawks, though. I'm count, bro.

2019. He didn't do anything for the ones. We should switch it. We should. And we're for Weissman's bucket. Self created off the dribble. Yeah. Yeah, he could do that.

Yes. He could do that more often than Damien. He's better. Yeah. His career has 30 points too. At some point, at some point, I'm going to respect for paper scissors. Dude, James Weisand put up 30 in the game. If you don't stand up for anything, it needs to be respect for our paper scissors.

James, James Wiseman hit a couple threes in his NBA career. He's definitely better. So is Damien Jones. Fuck, you're right. So is David Jones. It's watchful. This is nasty. Dragon me.

Next thing we're going to do. I'm just trying to gaslight as best as possible. I'm not a dash. Next thing we are going to do. I couldn't care less. Last thing I do. You guys have 12 words to guess the seven NBA names I have. So you guys get one hint for one word.

If you did another word after that, et cetera, basically you can get five misses. These souls, you got to help us. Please don't sell them. First word. I see the cell on his face. He's about to mess up. I'm a known seller, I'm a known seller, dog.

Really? Yes. Fuck. First word. Disloyal. Oh, that's Kevin Durant. It has to be. Katie's a great name.

At this point, he is the face of disloyalty. James Hardin's up there too, though, but he's more respectable way of, like, being disloyal. Yeah, James Harder at least would do. are out in the open. He'll let you know. He'll give you a two week notice. This is, we've just had years of disloyalty shown from,

from KD. Yeah. Yeah. KD. Are we going, Katie? Let's go KD. Kevin Durant. It is Kevin Durant. Word number one. On the right track. One word, one name, gotten right. Word number two. Disloyal. Oh, shit. Again. We don't have too many disloyal stars like that.

Now, there's Kevin Durant and then there's Get Off My Dickerson. Both of them. You're right. No, there's no personas on this list. I'm crying. Disloyal? This could also be James Hardin.

It is James Hardin. It is James Hardin. Two for two. God, you've got me overthinking now. I don't want to sell. Word number three. Artillery. What?

Artillery. Curt. Someone just has weapons. Okay. Shooter? Curry? Artillery. Artillery.

Oh, oh, oh. is that crazy he did do a celebration yeah and it's been he's been ramping up he's trapped back he's relapsing it's John Moran

there we go it's ramping out let's go he's seeing the green goblin mask yeah he's getting stronger by the day it's not a good it's a bazooka Taco

fall Forl. Incorrect. It's not Taco Fall. I was saying that to us. Fuck. Don't make that. Oh, oh.

LeBron? Taco Tuesday? Wait, no, that's not an official guess. Hold on. Calm down. That does make sense. We need to discuss that the unit. That does make sense.

We need to discuss it. Taco. Oh, you already said a guess. I'll give you another word now. Because you said Taco Fall. Oh, yeah, yeah. Tuesday. This is LeBron.

It has to be. There we go. See? It is LeBron. I need you. Shad to accuse him too fast to selling. There you go. Next one.

Wasted a word. Violence. Dremont is the first name that comes to mind. Beef stew is out here. How do we feel about Dremont versus B. Sto? Beesstew kind of thinks of it right now. Violent feels more like beef stew. But beef stew was literally pulling Miles Bridges's hair.

And, like, and it's chest in. I don't know why. I just like, I hear violent, and it makes me feel like somebody's being violent but unjustly. I feel like beefsoo is like doing this out of, out of honor for his team. And so it feels like violent shouldn't be the word to the church.

Honor. It's crazy. It's a wild soldier, man. Are you fighting for the right cause? I think most of the time he is. Yeah, sure. I want to go Isaiah Stewart though. Do you want to go beef stew?

Are we good with Bees stew? We can do beef stew. Beef stew. Beef stew is incorrect. Fuck. Damn. Next word. Yapper.

That is Draymond. Okay. Damn. Is that you guess? Yes. Dreamon. It is Draymond Green. Correct.

Okay. You can breathe again. Come on, man. Next word. Hands. Kawai is the first name that comes to my mind. My dumb ass is thinking Jalen. Jaylen Hance.

Bro, where are you at? It hasn't been a million years. My bad. My bad. I'm just thinking about my, you know, thought process. Let's go into the second name. Hands. Kauai's a good one.

Kauai is a good one. I think Kauai may be just the best of it. Let's do. Let's go with that simple. Massive hands. Yeah. Kauai. Kauai, I guess.

Incorrect. It's not Kauai. What? Next word. Dreads. Oh, then it's beast, too. Damn it, it's beef stew. It's beef stew.

It's beef stew. You're going to tell with the wrong type of hands. You know what? That's the distinction that I like of he has hands. He's not a violent guy. Do he be boxing? I don't know. He fights, but I don't know if he boxes.

But he will use hands if necessary. Correct. Okay. I like that. Shout beef stew, man. Altercation. Why are these all beef stew? everywhere I look is beef stew

Into the beef stew multiverse Beef beef beef beef beef Alteration Who else is fighting out there with him Musa Musa was out there fighting But he's not like an altercation He's out of hands type of guy

He has respect Place in the right way Who's out here fighting? or just getting into altercations. Do we have names? Options. See, Jalen Durham begin getting to a lot, but I wouldn't say necessarily hands. He did throw hands.

Are we okay with Jalen Duren? I don't love it, though. We might need a second guess. Yeah, I think we can. I don't love it either. Yeah, I don't love it either. So we have, I guess, two words left that we can, in terms of hints. We might be cooked.

I think we kind of need one. We need a head. So just say Duren and then get the Yeah Yeah Are Jalen Dern Incorrect It's not Jalen Duren

I would have said mewing Or would say handsome Or it's a slam Or it's and chiseled All right we get it Or just said big Next word Crazy

Does that really help? Yeah Because not everybody Against altercations Is like that But like this guy's crazy So who's someone who's like This guy's crazy

And they're in league today right I didn't say that Come on man I mean I would have said Dremont But we've Now I'm thinking run our test Yeah, is these current players or? Wow.

Get your guessing. Fuck it. We go Ron Artes. Ron Artis. Right. Correct. This is Ron Artes. He is the last name.

Damn. How he didn't come to mine first? I don't know. A lot of crazy guys. A lot of crazy guys. I was thinking Dennis Rodman is another guess. Also, all time just being on the last one throws you all crazy. Throws you off the entire swag.

Was that a comfy pick? Very comfy. Let's go. And that's the end of the same. episode. If you're still here, let us know how compi this episode was. Compi. Yeah. One to ten. I'm crying. Let me know how compi Donovan is.

One to ten. I think that's something he's been working on as of late. It's been top of mind and pre-production conversations. True. How do I get compier? Comp levels. Yeah. Check his Elo up. And we'll see you on next week.

He's just close. He's embarrassed. He's like, I don't know these words mean. I don't. I don't. He's washed. We'll see on next video. He's old.