The Deep 3 Podcast - We Chose Every NBA Team's 2024 Breakout Star | Ep. 57

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

Every NBA Team's 2024 breakout star! #nba Follow us on twitter to enter the PS5 giveaway: https://twitter.com/thedeep3podcast Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Join the TD3 discord!: https://discord.gg/RUkjpMPp7E Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- Intro 2:40- Celtics trade breakout 32:55- NBA media day reactions 44:28- 2024 Breakout Stars 1:51:43- TikTok Time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

So last week, we saw the Bucks make a trade that I think we all agreed, made them by far the favorites in the East, maybe the favorites in the whole league. Now, the Celtics answered by trading for Drew Holiday and putting themselves in an arm's race with the bucks. How do y'all feel? Everything I said last week, all that Milwaukee and Five stuff, that's out the door. That's out the door. My mind was instantly changed as soon as I saw this trade. Really? Yeah.

And listen, we're going to get into it. This was a fantastic move for the Boston Celtics. and it was probably the best one that they can do. I think it was the best move that they've made all offseason. Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to be, right? So trading for an all-star. They resigned Jalen Brown. How do you feel about Puezengis or whatever?

Yeah, they re-signed Zalin Brown. They went ahead and got Pryzingis, which is a fucking great player. He was borderline all-star last season. Then on top of that, you end up with Drew Holiday, who is one of the best, one of the better point guards in the NBA today. and he fills in a lot of the gaps that they once had before he's basically a better version of Marcus Smart

so they did their thing they cooked for sure yeah we're gonna we're gonna get into that we're gonna talk the ramifications for the Celtics what their teams don't look like next year how they compare to the other contenders in the league and the east we're gonna get into James Hardin drama talk about

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I mean, I don't know what to say. Yeah, man. Let's circle back to the Celtic stuff. Let's start there. Donovan, I know you said, you just said that your bucks in five take is gone

and that you do this is a great move. I want to hear from you first because you've been, along with me, critical of the Celtics throughout this whole offseason? I have. Give me your first thoughts. So I think that one of the biggest things that we've talked about for the Celtics

throughout this entire era is the fact that like if you are trying to lean into Jason Tatum being the primary ball handler, your team is probably going to fail because he's not, he's just not that guy, right? Like he's not the, in terms of like he's not the Luca guy, he's not the hard guy. Yeah, explain what you mean because we're not saying Luke Tatum's not great. It's that he's not that specific type of player that should be the end of an offense as a playmaker. Yeah. So like when you're talking about guys like Luca, Hardin, right, Braun, you can run your entire offense around him. They can run every single action. They can, they can be the one getting the bucket and they can be the one facilitating for others. And so for Tatum, he's just not that level of playmaker as a Luca, as a Bron. And so if you're running your offense through him, hoping that he's going to be that level of playmaker, you're probably setting yourself up for failure. And so when you have him, that's the best way to deploy him. You're forcing him to be something he's not.

Yeah. And so when you have him and Jalen Brown and, you know, Jalen Brown has his issues that we've talked about, you don't have a facilitator. You don't really have a point guard. Bringing Drew Holiday in, like Mo said, you're bringing in a souped up Marcus Smart. You're bringing in somebody who is a better perimeter defender than Marcus Smart Wars. You're bringing in somebody who's going to be better with the ball in his hands. And now Tatum and Brown are going to be freed up to just go out and get buckets all day long. And you have somebody who's going to be better. to be smart with the ball and you don't really have to worry about how erratic they're going to be at the end of games like this this really couldn't have been better because their major flaw is in my opinion it's solved right now they have they have other problems we're going to talk about yeah yeah yeah there's other things that they need to address but in terms of the one thing that was killing them for year in and year out that i think is solved and i think that that's why it's a win okay i have a little bit different opinion but along the same lines Mo what do you think? You go first. No, yeah. I agree with Donovan for the most part.

Like Drew Holliday solves all of the issues that they did have. And he is a cleaned up more refined version of Marcus Smart because he's a couple tiers higher of a score phenomenal defense. And he is the type of point guard to where I don't want to see what he'll calm everything down and help orchestrate the offense. But he can make the simple passes. I'm not going to sit here and say he's one of the. best passes in NBA or fantastic playmaker or anything like that. But with that being said, he's very solid at what he's doing, what he does. And he's exactly what they need. Now, personally, like, you know what I'm saying? If you're asking me about, do I have him over the bucks? Probably not because I still put a lot of, I still put a lot of expectations on onto Jason Tatum's shoulder and also Jalen Brown. At the end of the day, it's up to them if they want to if they can elevate to that level. But overall, like, I feel good about this trade.

Now, they did lose a lot of size, and they're relying on, I don't know, 37, 38-year-old Horford. And I feel like NBA fans have been waiting for his fucking knees to implode any minute now, bro. So, like, that's kind of scary. But overall, they did good. But I'm not jumping up and down, like, oh, it's over or the bucks are, like, they have, it's neck and neck. It's still not neck and neck to me if I'm being completely honest with you because Drew's fantastic.

But, like, he has his moments too, you know? And he's not the type to give me the ball, get the fuck. It's not neck and neck now. I can't say he's neck and neck. I think I, it's close to neck and neck, but we'll get to that later. After we talk about the team, we're going to talk about them compared to every other team. So we'll save that. I think this is great because by trading market smart, they have a clear need of point guard, right?

Even before they got rid of Marcus Smart, Donovan, we were saying for years, like you said, they need a playmaker. They can't force Jason Day to be that. you trade market smart that makes that weakness even bigger of a weakness so I think this Drew holiday trade gets them back to where they were with Marcus Smart I think Drew can replace him

perfectly and is look say Drew's a little bit better for playmaker than Marcus Smart because he's more of a dynamic off the dribble driver that can use that driving ability to create place for others a little bit better but like most said he's not a great passer you know he's not like he's not Rondo

he's not going to be out here filling their need exactly you know he's not going to make them go from having no playmaker to an elite one. They just have a playmaker, right? Like, I think it puts them back with the word before. But what I think is interesting is they basically this offseason got rid of Grant Williams, Malcolm Brogden, Marcus Smart, and Robert Williams, four players for two, Drew Holiday and Porzingis. That's in totality what they did. So they're trading depth for basically two more star-level players they didn't have before. And I think the big thing we had, neither one of you guys talked about is the fact they lost Robert Williams,

which actually, Moe did talk about that, because he's not. talking about being reliant on Al Horford's old ass. Yeah. So I want to know what you guys think is, obviously Drew Holiday, you'd rather have him to Mark your smart. No matter how marginal the passing difference is. He's a fucking way better player than Marcus Marcos.

He's an all-star. He has his flaws in the playoffs, but he's a better player. Do you guys feel confident enough that Christopps Porzingis is going to have a huge impact over what Robert Williams brought? Yeah.

Would you clearly rather have KP than Robert Williams? It depends. I think a lot of it does depend on whether Al Horford can hold up, but I do think that for two guys who are, like, in any situation, one of the tiebreakers might be like, okay, well, one guy is going to be there and another guy's not. They're both kind of injury prone. And so when I'm looking at that, I think having KP there might give them a little bit more flexibility in terms of like running a too big lineup and that might not tank the entire offense the way that it would have if you have Horford and Robert Williams out there. So I think that they can do that And let's say that Al Horford is cooked And we get to May or whatever And he's just not playing If you put Porzingis at the 5

Then you can still have a lineup Where you have your four best Dynamic offensive players And then you can still have Drew White, Tatum and Brown And with Porzeng is like I think that's a really good closing lineup That you can run with and feel fairly confident I agree

I agree It makes a totally different team Yeah It does. It does. But they were banging their head against the wall for three years, not doing, like, not accomplishing the ultimate goal. So you're changing it up. Yeah. I think when we saw them at their best two years ago under IMA Udoka, it was because Robert Williams was fully unleashed. He was like all defense level defender, being that weak side help defender playing alongside Hal Horford. Al Horford was the center in the lineups, defending pick and rolls. And Robert Williams was defending the guy in the corner coming in to help and just destroy everything at the rim. That was best case scenario for the Celtics that we've seen so far, getting them to. the finals. So now you lose Robert Williams. You don't have that anymore. But also last year

under the new coach, Joe Mozilla, they didn't, that wasn't the bread and butter anymore. He's a different coach than Yudoka and he was much more offensive leaning. And whether it be because of that or because of Robert Williams's health, probably both, we saw his minutes kind of reduced to being like a 20, 25 minute get per game score, I mean player. And if that's going to be the case, I guess it makes sense to lose him because even if that ceiling of what could be if he's maximize is there. You're not playing with a coach that's going to want to maximize that and maybe his hell doesn't hold up. So now by going

to the Porzingis model you're just a lot more offensive leaning I think and obviously don't have as much depth but just even your style plays is going to be entirely different like either whether or not they play Horford or white and starting lineup, they're going to be a five out team now. Yeah.

So that's just you know it's an entirely different look than what they were in previous years and it's probably what was Joe Mosulah wants. So I guess my question is Mo do you have faith that that offensive leading five out three point shooting model that we saw a little bit of last year is going to be a better strategy than the defensive

oriented one from 2021 at the end of the day like it just all comes down to health between Alhor Fred and Chris Haas Prazingis I think it's probably not it's not bad to go ahead and lean that way I think the Celtics finished top five in defense last year after getting off into a super slow start

and everyone was panicking and whatnot I remember that vividly so I think they'll be just fine defensively, but when it comes to teams targeting you in the playoffs, they are in a super vulnerable spot now because now you got Chris Os Porzingis, you know what I'm saying? And Al Horford, and those are like your two main options. And if something happens to those two, you know, then who are you calling off the bench? Luke Cornett? You want him jumping from the free throw line just like, he? Like, what is he supposed to do? He is athleticism, efficient, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, do I think it's a better strategy? Probably

because Joe Muzulu, like you said, all signs point towards like he's a three point merchant. I was watching his, I was watching his interview with on JJ Redix podcast the other day. And it's clear as day like, you know, he's all into the numbers and stuff like that at first at least, or at least throughout the regular season. And they're going to cruise to it. And they might actually, in my opinion, be the number one seed in the Eastern Conference or maybe the entire NBA, bro. It's very. I can very, I can very much see that world. For sure.

But my fear is just, exactly. Talk about it. Yep. Yeah, go ahead. Because you're saying, you're going to say your fear is they fall apart in the playoffs before I cut you off? Oh, yeah. I'm just saying, like, they're vulnerable and they have less,

when it comes to the big man front, they have less options to run to. And that's what they're willing to give up. You've got to hope that they may get to the playoffs with those two guys who are not the poster of health. Well, at the end, we're projecting for Horford. He's shown us no reason to believe he's going to fall off or get hurt. He's been fine. But it's just, you know, it's any fucking day now and you're that old playing that heavy of a burden. But the question now is, for everything Drew Holiday solves for them, every year, this man, she's under 40% in every playoff series, he falls apart and cannot make a shot.

So I know we talked about that last week when we talked about Milwaukee shipping him out and why we thought that was a good thing for the bucks to not have that issue anymore. Does that concern you with the Celtics? Absolutely. Absolutely. Real quick. I want to say, Drew, Drew, Drew Holley. is just a prettier version of Marcus Smart. Marksmar has some of the most atrocious turnovers.

He just did it's the most like, what the fuck are you doing type things? You know what I'm saying? I'm not super worried about it. I'll let Donovan go first. I think there's reason to believe it might get better for Drew. But what do you do on? Yeah, I'm not too concerned about it.

I think when you are in Drew's situation over the last two years, it's really been him and Janus trying to run the offense. And Janus is not the guy that's bringing up the offense, you know, that's bringing the ball up. setting everything up. And so a lot of the playmaking stuff has been on Drew. And a lot of like the playmaking and the scoring load has been on Drew while also saying, hey, go guard the best player on the other team.

That's not necessarily going to be what he's going to do in Boston. Like Jason Tatum is still going to be responsible for getting buckets. Gina Brown is still going to be responsible for getting all these buckets. KP. Exactly. Now you have Porzingis there. so this offensive load on holiday is not going to be there so i don't think that even if he is even if he does have like a subpar shooting you know slump in the playoffs i don't think it's

going to be too too detrimental where like the bucks if drew holiday was off oh everything's gone wrong because he's the best one and he had the best chance if they if he starts stinking it up hey derrick white you start you start playing well everybody else is fine and it's they're gonna be okay The margin for error on Drew Holiday is much bigger now that he's in Boston. 100%. I think the decision making that the Celtics made is based on they're probably under the belief that he was overtax in the playoffs, that too much was asked of him.

Like you said, he's asked to be a creator, passer, and defender. And I think with this role with this team, he's going to be asked to think about the game like he's Rondo. Like he's going to be shooting your open, be a spot-up guy. Don't obviously take away on the scoring end, but focus on up in your passing skills. and focus on that more than you ever have in your career. And I think we can not only see that him be a better pastor

than we expected coming into this. Obviously more energy to put into defense. But his scoring is bad mostly because he's forced to take all these mid-range jump shots in the playoffs and just driving to the rim, putting his fucking shoulder down, forcing it. And that's not really his best skill against the playoff defense. So if he's not asked to do that,

you could probably assume he's going to have a more efficient outing in the playoffs when he's playing off of two other star ball handlers. Thanks. So I think you'll see me. strength shine more and the weaknesses be less of an issue with this roster construction and at the end of the day this has to fall on jason tatum i'm surprised i'm doing this donovan i feel like i got your mask all right now i'm bringing up legacies there is no excuse for you to not like the coaches everyone is leaning on you and everyone gave you exactly what you need to go ahead and thrive

everyone's talking about oh they don't have a point guard well you got a point guard now bro and also you have a Zooted up for a 7-3 sniper. So there's no real reason for him to not elevate his own game. Even though, like, yes, like, you know, he's going to be expected to, he's going to be expected less to go ahead and play make, but more to go ahead and be pick his spots while also dishing out and helping drill along that. So I still need to see that growth in order for me to fully believe. And can he itch to the top six best players in the NBA conversations or

it's straight away from like the top 10? I don't know. Listen, listen, you have, you have by, you know, basketball or whatever. We're going to push that forward. The expectations that I have with the Celtics this year are extremely high at this point. And I think that for Tatum, he's going to be in conversations for scoring leader. I think that he's going to be in conversations for MVP. I think that the Celtics, listen, as much as like as bad.

as their meltdown was, they were in game seven of the Eastern Conference Finals last year. And so they now have, they shifted things around. They wanted to change up the formula. They've been in game seven of the Eastern Conference Finals each of the last two years. They have one opponent this season, and that's the Milwaukee Bucks. And so like both of them are championship robust, but I think that Boston right now is in a better position than Milwaukee. I think both of them have to figure out some of their depth issues. issues. But like like Isaac was saying, they're going to eat in the regular season. And because of

that, like, I think this is Tatum's time going into year seven right around that time where people start entering their like prime prime. This is Tatum's, this is Tatum's moment to start racking up the accolades and the wins. And I think that like, I think that he that he does. I think that this is the season that we see Jason Tatum go to even another level. Something that Joe Malooz, Joe Mazula said in the interview also is that something we all saw on this podcast all NBA fans saw across the world the Celtics had no counters and this is their opportunity like you said Isaac for them to get creative as ever to do whatever they want on the offensive end they have three players whatever really like five players who can shoot the three their three level scores you drew we see

in a lot of times in moments of him last year on the Celtics get into the post up you know what I'm saying and everybody on the team can do that so it's like there's the ceiling the sky is a limit and there's no more excuses for any of that now they have comebacks on comebacks and counters on counters yeah they just like you said they're a very very versatile team but also it's it's a weird it's a weird place to be in when you're shouldn't be versatile with your top six players which are maybe the best top six in the league but after that fall out dramatically and in the playoffs you're gonna have a six or seven man rotation so you could say that losing death also might make them less versatile because they have no longer have that lop threat big man no longer have the backup point

guard so they kind of like they can do what they can with those top six and be as creative as they can with them but that's who they are they're really bought into the identity of these top players you don't have a lot of changeups in terms of roster personnel and putting in new lineups you you had to make those changeups within the players you have there. So basically Joe Muzoo is going to have to put on a coaching masterclass for this to be the best it can. So it'll be a good test for him. Let's see it. Yeah.

So let's talk about them versus the bucks. And we're going to use this as a transition to get into an impromptu TikTok time thing. So instead of just doing the bucks, I'm going to ask you guys to compare the Celtics to all the teams in the West, I mean in the East. And we're going to talk about how they stack up against their competition. All right. Let's do it. Yeah. So get this TikTok hook in early in the show.

Can you change it up a little bit? Are the Celtics better or worse in these NBA teams after the Drew Holiday trade? First off, the Los Angeles Lakers. I'm going to have to sadly say better. I'm going to have to sadly say better, bro. This six is ridiculous. Drew Holiday, Jalen Brown, Tatum, Porzingis, all above the line defenders. And then you got Al Horford, old ass in the back.

They're eating, bro. Still a great defender. Al Horford still hasn't fallen off yet. facts yeah i'm taking the celtics their top six is just too nasty i think they're better than than the lakers i think the lakers depth might come might come in handy if people start getting hurt and that's what the celtics are like very vulnerable but if we're just talking about last five minutes who's on the floor i think i'm taking the celtics yeah i might have more faith the lakers can get out of their conference more because that depth like the celtics one injury

and they're going to be cooked but if it's series versus series i'd probably pick the celtics yeah okay what about the phoenix suns Oh, the Celtics easily, bro. They're better. No hesitation. Yeah, bro, no one on the Sons is playing defense for real. Kevin Duran is your best offender. You're not getting far.

Yeah, I mean, I think the Sons will be good, but they're going to win with shootouts. And the Celtics are going to have a great defense. And listen, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, Drew Holiday, and KP, they're not going to get out shot that easy. Like, those are some great offensive players. Exactly. These are two top heavy teams. but again, Boston could go six deep

where Phoenix stops three deep and after it's Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant and then a lot of guys janitors Exactly, I'm taking Boston Okay, oh my gosh Don't disrespect Naze little man

He's different. Let's relax Philadelphia 76ers It's not a question Boston, easy, bro, Boston, easy Harding just got to Denver, bro. Yeah, no. It's not even a question. My bad, my bad.

The Miami Heat. They fumbled. They fumbled this all season. I don't think that the heat are going to be better than the Sixers. So they mess with their chances for real. I don't know what High Smith is going to do when he has to pick between guarding Tatum running at his face and Prisning us all the way at the corner. They're done, dude. Yeah, I mean, the heat pushed into seven last, I mean, yeah, I mean, the Celtics pushed in the seven last year when the heat were getting like the

best case scenario run they could imagine and now the Celtics are better I don't see a reason to not pick the Celtics they better they better pray that Caleb Martin can shoot again facts right the Denver Nuggets oh this is tough this is tough this is good wow Jokit is gonna destroy that Horfero they have no like it just they have no chance I'm stuck I'm stuck and if he destroys over it and poor Zingas guards it bro it's lunch a bro. It's a buffet. Holy shit. All you can eat all day. Who are they going to? What are they going to do?

He's going to pull a James Winston. He needs to eat the W. Yeah, no. It's going to be close, though, because Jamal Murray is going against an insanely tough defense. But if Yolka just truly as great as I think he is, I might have to lean towards the Denver Nuggets. And the thing is, though, they also, the Denver also has wing defenders

in Aaron Gordon, wing defender. Denver also has good wing defense with Aaron Gordon manning it. So they're kind of equipped to hold up against the Celtic strength. Probably. But if Michael Porter Jr. were shooting the way that he was in the finals, Boston, Boston can get this one fairly easily. This one is close.

If they played in a series, it's going to seven. This is going to take a game winning shot to win the finals. Like these, they just seem so even on paper right now. I think I'm still going Boston, though. If it's super even, I'm going to go to the gut team that has the best player in the world. And that's fair. If Nicola Yokits wants to play basketball that day, for real, oh, it's over. He could end this at four.

That's funny. Okay. Last but not least, the Milwaukee Bucks. They're better than the bucks. Oh, my God. Now you tripping. I'm going with the two best players. I'm tripping.

I'm going with the two best players in that series. Yonis and Dame, period. Yeah. That's not the two best players in that series. Tatum is better than Dame. Sure. I think, even if you think. think the Celtics have a more talented roster one to five. I think the combo of Dame and Janus

and how they amplify each other skills, that's going to be unguardable. The best two players on the Celtics are not unguardable as a combo at all. They're very good players, but then together don't make its unstoppable force that the Janus and Dame pair do. I think that combined is going to be game breaking. Listen, the Celtics have shown even when they were fumbling series away, there's been one thing that's been consistent. They are not scared of the Milwaukee Bucks. They don't care So who is out there and if you think that Drew Holiday is going to go play against his old team, he's going to have Dame in a straight jacket once again. He's going to show Milwaukee you guys messed up trading for this man is stuck on 2018. That's not happening.

It's going to happen. He doesn't have Anthony Davis to Blitz Dame every play this time. Yeah, exactly. With Janus. Yonest, y'all underestimate the dog that Drew Holiday has in him. Do you think this man is not motivated? It doesn't matter how big the dog is. bro, you're not stopping a yonist pick and roll

with shooters surrounding him, bro. Watch Drew Holiday do it. Watch Drew Holiday do it. He's got to be Drew Holiday is Gary Payton. This is crazy. No, he's not even Gary. He thinks he's Jesus, bro. Damn. Yeah, give me the bucks. Yeah, we can talk about that a little more now that we're out of that TikTok segment.

I'm still picking the bucks. I think the whole thing with the Celtics is they have four basically all-star level players. And I think Chris Milton's going to be better next year. And I think Brooke Lopez is still going to be one of the top three defensive players the year finishers probably. And if that's the case, I think they also have four like near all-star caliber players. And I think that that combination of Janus and Dame together is going to be one of those pairings like we saw when LeBron and AD first got together.

Like we saw when Steph and K.D. first got together that their skills complement each other so perfectly that it doesn't matter if you're more talented. Those two have the impact together that amplify each other. that's going to be, like, impossible to game plan against it. Yeah, I think Dames simply Dames' presence on the Milwaukee books just amplifies and opens up an entire mystical wonderland of all these insane scenarios because Dames, one of the three best pick and roll ball handlers in the NBA, and it's been like that for a minute now. And he's never, ever in his entire life has had to, has gotten a chance or an opportunity to play with someone like Janus, who commands so much opportunity or attention. And the paint, you know what I'm saying? And with that being said, going back to the world opportunity, it's limitless. And everyone's going to eat on this team because you're going to have to give something up.

You know what I'm saying? You can't commit. I don't really realize everything Yonis has done in his career so far has been with him being a creator and him being unstoppable going at a guy one-on-one. You can't stop him. You know how impossible is going to be to stop this motherfucker when he does that? But also you give the ball to Dame and you have to deal with his gravity as a pick and roll ball handler. You have to throw bodies at Dame to stop him. Bro, that's, I believe Janus wide open to be the most unstoppable role man we've ever fucking seen.

The best players on, the best shooters on his team have been Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday and Pat Connington. You could also throw in Brooke Lopez. I can't disrespect that man too. But having Dame on air, arguably, in my opinion, the second best shooter of all time, bro, there's just, there's no stopping. Listen, listen, that's fair, but you're wrong, right? Because listen, and the Celtics, as we saw last year, they moved into this like very heavy three point focused offense, but they were still working with this email doka roster. It has completely changed.

And so now everything that they want to do offensively, they have the personnel for it. And so it's different trying to run, trying to just like, you know, go and Chuck Threes when Al Horford and Robert Williams are your bigs. Now when you have Poisingis, and he's the one. that's taking threes he's the one that's facing the floor it's going to be a little bit better you have your second year like you have a little bit more continuity i and again like we've all said they have a better version of what of whoever they had at point guard in drew holiday compared to market smart so i think like if the bucks won i would not be shocked at all like a hundred percent

like why why would that you know shock me but i just think that i think that boston's continuity I think that their offensive powers from basically one through four with Holiday White and then the Jays. I think that's going to be able to take them a long way. I have a question for Isaac. Do you think that we're talking about offense? They have to play fucking defense. And for the most part, I'm talking. I'm not worried about who's going to guard Dame.

Do you think, Isaac, that they have the potential to contain Janus and eventually surpass him on the defensive end, which overall, I think it would be, if they could, Diction. they could contain them on defense they might win that series what do you think I see you're asking do I think the Celtics of the personnel to stop Yannis and slow him down

yes a fucking no I mean obviously not who's gonna be the primary the defender on him Christophs Porzingus Corznius maybe Tatum

I don't know what they want to do Tatum be fucking for real I guess I mean ideally it would be out Horford but do we want to keep taxing him with that type of workload being this old like it's happened before

if for free comes out and he looks like he looks in previous years and can be a competent defender on Janus sure I think they have a game plan that they could probably guard him as effectively as anybody's going to under a normal circumstance but when you throw Dame into that

okay so what does it look like let me start there when you stop Janus you have to put a strong one-on-one defender on him it'll be Alhorfer probably and then you have to have a lot of help with the nails and leave wing shooters open and not let the corners open, but have wing shooters. Who are the wing shooters going to be?

Pat Conantin and Chris Middleton. I don't think you want to leave them open to shoot you out of a game. Those are pretty fucking good shooters. We can see. I think, listen, if I, if the option is let Pat Conantin and Chris Middleton, who is coming off on these injuries.

I know, I know, but I'm saying, like, if you're saying, like, where are we going to dedicate these resources to and you have to kind of start choosing and do all that stuff, Obviously, I'd rather Pat Conninton and Chris Middleton beat me than just let Janice roll to the rim be running dunk man and get all the points that he wants. But listen, it's a very fair question and it's a very real problem that Boston has to

solve in terms of how they're going to guard that pick and roll and that action. But I think that we're asking a lot about the depth for Boston. And I think that the same goes for Milwaukee. like Bobby Portis is going to he's coming off the bench he's great after that it's like is okay j Crowder and then who like they're one they're also one injury away from not really having a lot of mobility and then especially when you have portis yannis and brook and that's kind of your like the the majority of like your team in your front court that's that's also like you are also very front court heavy in that sense so they also have some depth issues

to figure out. No, for sure. Yeah, yeah. I mean, any team that has four elite players is going to have depth issues. It's just, I guess it comes down to if they're both in that circumstance,

who's top five do you believe in more? And I'm going to go to the one with the duo that I think will prove to be one of the most unstoppable duos you've seen in the past 20 years. Yeah, I prays. Exactly. It's high praise.

Yeah. For most teams, you think about this way, most teams with the Celtics are going to be, it's going to be because they have the best third and fourth option. You can fucking run the league. Like, nobody's going to be able to shoot them three and four the bucks can keep up in that in that size yeah we'll see yeah i mean

relatively i mean brook i hold you i hope i hope nobody we all rank we all ranked brook above christos porzengis so oh yeah i'm not funny to hear that you don't think they're on the same level chris milton and drew holiday i mean they both me a lot of times people say chris milton's the second best player on the bucks they were teammates so and guess what and guess what the last two years they were lying you're such dramatic chris milton had a off of year last year because he was hurt he wasn't a pumpkin he wasn't terrible no but no but he's he was he was hurt he was compromised let's see if he can get back to where he was because if if the chris millington that they get this year is the same that they were getting last year he is not better than

drew holiday in my opinion okay let's move on real quick to let's talk about media day before we get to the main part of this episode let's go over some quick headlines from media day and talk about them listen Jimmy Butler's hair. It has to be addressed. We are the predominant hair podcast on the NBA community. We're going to get to that during TikTok time. We're going to have a big segment about Jimmy Butler's hair.

So just wait on it. You're going to hear about it. After that, the next thing is obviously James Hardin. It was the first for media day. He wasn't there. He didn't show up. It wasn't with the team. The team was in Colorado.

They had a check-in with Yolkitch, make sure they're good in that hood. But James Hardin wasn't there. Checking with Yolk. He reported to the first day. He reported to the first day. a training camp. So now he's with the team and is apparently dedicated to being a sixer and winning games. Lies. You know, that means. Do you all buy it? Are you going to think the sixers are going to have a productive year? No, not enough. Oh, man. This feels like James Hardy just brings bad vibes.

And the only reason, the only reason why he's dedicated is because them checks are dedicated to his bank account. And he needs that, right? Like he wants his money. And so that's like, that's why he's showing up. But for somebody who has gone on literally. worldwide tours to slander Darry. No, I don't think this is going to be a productive season for the 60s. From, from camps to China to random ass clubs

in Houston, holding up signs saying Darryl Morey is a liar. He was from Chinese kids and the hose both of witch shitting on Darry bro. Bro, bro, he was oh my God, bro. He was off alcohol doing all that shit that's what I'm like, when it comes to this

entire situation I was about to add to it I'm not I'm not I don't know what James Tony does that's why I stopped immediately when I said that bro but I can't I can't I'm watching I've been watching the Showtime Lakers show

but in all seriousness I don't see a way in where they're going to be able to fully just go gloss over all this and I think that James Harden like you said Donovan is just simply doing this we get paid at the end of day and also keep this professional.

Like, being real here, James Hardin is on one of his last legs of his NBA, of his high level NBA career, you know what I'm saying? So there's only so much leeway of someone being absolute tyrant bastard throughout the entire offseason that you're going to give. If I'm the Los Angeles Clippers, I'm looking at his track record, you asked out of Houston, you went ahead, forged your way out of Brooklyn, and you cried your entire offseason out of the Philadelphia 76ers, and you want me to give you X, Y, maybe Pigs, Terrence, man,

whatever the fuck else that they have to offer. I'm really trying to strong man you and I'm not, I don't want to give you what you want, what you want, because of the product that he is. And hopefully,

what I'm assuming that someone got into his head told him you have to play it right, have to play it safe, no more immediate interest because you're literally diminishing your value. Yeah, he has no choice at this point. He has to be there. And I'm with you.

I'm, when I'm ranking the top five teams in the East, I almost wanted to disqualify them because I don't think this is going to be their team by Christmas. You know, like, it's hard to imagine that this team sticks together if they do it's hard to imagine they overcome this insane

distraction they're probably cooked yeah exactly yeah they're cooked yeah let's rapid fire through these headlines that's enough six-year stock next thing i have the the brooklyn nestman every person that's separate him from a mike talked about how this is ben simmons team this year everybody fully expects him to be back spencer did what he said in many ways this is his team Ben Simmons says this is the most healthy he's been since 2018 He said I'm back verbatim Do you guys have faith in this man Boy he's putting the biggest target on his back bro because hey

I ain't gonna lie well bro 2023 NBA fans are different And we got AI means ready for you to fire it at any moment buddy So one off game one miss three that off the side of the backboard or whatever You're not gonna stand a chance It's gonna be it's gonna be tough man I don't like this talk at all, but do I believe it?

Will I buy into it? Of course, I'm gullible. No, I've no, I've no faith. I've no faith in Ben Simmons. He's at the point in his career where I am not going to believe you until you prove otherwise, because I've heard this several times about Benzeman's jump shot, about his ability to be like ready to come back and play, about what his potential is since all the Philly stuff since the injury.

Show me that you can instill hoop. and then I'll actually start taking you seriously, but this is not a, for, did you not a legitimate comment? What type of high school drill? Like, you want me to give you a cookie

because you made 10 fritos? You're getting paid tens of millions of dollars. Make the fritos fan. Like, please. They're going to do this. NBA Central is so ridiculous. They do what they were doing.

The fucking fire emoji. Ten free throws in a row. 10 straight free throws. Come on now. Yeah, man, I have a, I have Ben Simmons, Stockholm syndrome. I'm going to believe he can come back until he fucking retires. I just, I want to hold out so much faith that he can get right if he's healthy. So I will be drafting him in my fantasy basketball league this year.

I'll say that. I'm going to invest in the Ben Simmons come back. Please do that. Please do that. I need to get back up in the wind call. Isaac saying he's a walking week. I need to make a run this year. Well, being serious for two seconds, if he can be at least half of the player that he was back in 2018, which was phenomenal.

then solid role player maybe job yeah my god can he be an actual point guard can he like help be a force in transition and all that other shit that he used to be great at bro the Brooklyn Nets they might be like a seventh eighth seed if so because they have a lot of good ass wings you know it's just all about it's the offense and can they can they be creative enough that's the main issue and Ben Simmons helped solve that his skill set but I mean we don't know where skills said like that Yeah, bro. Next headline, Jordan Poole came out here and said him and Kyle Kuzma have championship pedigree and want to bring that to the Wizards and be the leaders for this team.

And everybody cooked his ass for being Jordan Poole and I can like, it's like Curry or something. And I think that was unfair to Jordan Poole. How does y'all feel about this? It kind of goes both ways. I can see it both sides because like on one hand, Jordan Poole did win a championship, right? He was a meaningful role, too. He wasn't just there. Yeah, both him and Kuzma were very, like, meaningful parts of championship teams.

On the other hand, if you tell me that these are going to be Bilal Kulubali's vets, I don't have a lot of hat for Kulabali. Like, I don't know what his career is going to turn out. If Jordan Poole and Kyle Kuzma are the ones that are like, hey, man, this is how you get things done. I'm not sure about it. I'm unsure. That's funny. I think, listen, what is he supposed to fucking say?

he's a player that got sent here to basically be the star of this team he has to be in a leadership role like this is the role he's thrust it into being probably the best player on the team I don't really blame him for trying to live up to that right away yeah exactly

what else is he supposed to do bro and also for every NBA fan cooking him I get it I agree I probably was cooking him too in the comment section but it's the Washington Wizards what history do they have over the last 15 years they have They haven't gone past.

When was that time they went to the Eastern Conference Finals? Bro, I probably wasn't alive. What they did, bro? Oh my God. Holy shit. Wes Unsells MVP season. That's crazy, bro. So I'm like, yeah, man, he did what he was supposed to do.

He said what we were supposed to say, it's just going to be a fun show to watch. Yeah. Next thing I'll talk. Real quick, NBA talk is so funny because when you call a team fun, you just, you're calling them trash. You're just like, hey, yeah. You guys are going to lose a lot, right? But you're going to have, like, you're going to lose, but you're also going to be on House of Highlight.

So, like, that's fun. So, like, like, congrats for your 32 wins, Washington. Like, you know, I hope you're happy. He ain't lying. That's funny. Next headline we got, somebody on the Boston Celtics social media team. Fire them.

Fire them. Jaylon Brown was standing on the sidelines, just dribbling. Dickle pull this up. And so immediately people replied, this motherfucker still can't dribble with his left hands. And this video is just hilarious. No, this was doing this. This was a personal attack on Jalen Brown. Like this was very intentional from the Boston Celtics social media team.

And they. He's so loose. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I might have to go back on my Celtics take. Whatever intern posts this, they have to be incredibly out of the loop. Fire that in. turn you're not coming back and also they're leaving you should

whatever social media managers that the Boston socials have they need to leave her a terrible review and staying onto that man's career because this is a target this was literally set up there's no way there's no way that you don't know about the issues that this man had and it's funny because like these are like

very normal drills or whatever but it's just like him losing a couple times is kind of hilarious it's also funny that he's dribbling like shit with his left hand like It's just true Like it's hilarious I give I give NBA fans

I give Jalen Brent Jalen Brown one week Before this video resurfaces in a month after people start playing games This is terrible This is this is awful like this is an illegitimately bad thing to post As the Boston Celtics media team You're supposed to defend your your players The thing is though like

They're just posting him It's just him Inverted Yeah, this is awful Oh my God, bro That's funny They flipped it That's great

Yeah man The jokes don't write themselves Next thing We can quickly talk about Dramon Green is going to miss the next 4 to 6 weeks And because of that We're going to see Chris Paul

Start in the starting lineup In the preseason So we should get a good view Of What is the weirdest fit In the recent NBA history and we're going to get it full tilt it's going to be hilarious. So we're going to see Chris

Paul, CP3 Wiggins, Clay Thompson and Kevin Looney. Steve Kerr came out and said, yeah, Clay Thompson's going to go ahead and guard power fords. And he got fried to eternity, bro. And that's very interesting to say. It probably doesn't even matter because

they switch so much that like that doesn't really mean much. But it is. But the sentiment is just hilarious. Yeah. They're bending over backwards so hard to get Chris Paul in this lineup that Clay Thompson is going to be your Williamson defender yeah yeah Chris Paul has to go he has to be traded yeah man it's every time you look at every video we've seen of him from media day everyone's like what the fuck man this is really happening nobody's excited yeah this is so weird bro I mean

it it is interesting to see how we adjust fully on that lens but I ain't gonna lie this is gonna be a peak shit show and I'm looking forward to it that's greatest that's It's a world peace. That is cruel. That is cruel, bro. But yeah, man, outside of that, not a whole lot to talk about Media Day. I think we can move on to the part this episode is titled after. We're going to go through every NBA team and name their breakout players.

Let's do it. The way we did this, so it's not going to be incredibly long, each of us have 10 teams. We both have all have two divisions, and we're going to go through take turns giving one of our teams. And yeah, instead of all of us giving one player for each team, It's just one of us giving a player for that team. Okay. You guys are good?

You guys got your names pulled up? Yep. Yeah, let's do it. Got my list. All right, I'll go first. I'll start with the Lakers, get the easy one out of the way. I had the Pacific Division.

All of us got the division of the team we're a fan of and then one other division. So we can all start with our favorite teams. Keep it easy. For the Lakers, easiest pick. I got Austin Reeves.

I think this one is not really debatable. Like, sure, if you think, like Rory Hutchie, Mara is going to keep having a strong year. Cool, he gets surprised. This team is built around Austin Reeves being a third quasi-star and really taking that next jump and being the ball hand that they need to relieve some of the pressure off of LeBron.

The only way this team works is if Austin Reeves takes a breakout star jump. And I think we all expect the Lake Christine to work. So we're all of expecting the Austin Reed to have a big year. This team is built around Austin Reeves. It's such a crazy thing to say. It's a crazy sound bite, bro. This thing goes as far as to take them Listen, this is

This is Captain America This was the breakout guy He has his own signature shoe now I'm in lockstep with you This is Austin America This is Austin Reeves team This is his team This is his year

Yeah We should clarify real quick What we mean by Breakout Star Basically what that means is The player that's gonna surprise the most The team The player that's gonna make a big improvement this year And be a standout for this team

Yeah so something also I don't know why But it gets on my fucking nerves because when you objectively, when you look at the word breakout, like not every single player is going to fit perfectly into this mold. The breakout literally means when after a certain amount of time, you see a wild uptick in production and consistency and efficiency all across the board, someone like a la laura marketing in last season type shit. And there's no one like this for the Los Angeles Lakers, but I'm sure through this division, Isaac will have someone who fits like this exactly. Yeah, yeah. When I say breakout, I don't mean they're going to win most improved player. They don't have to be a star. It doesn't got to be like a huge jump. It just means the player that's going to be the surprise of the season for this team.

Exactly. And they're pretty much a swing factor. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Donovan, what's your first player in first team? All right. So we're going to start with the New York Knicks and breakout player, Quentin Grimes. My guy. Quentin Grimes, first of all, the Knicks have a lot of like, it's very jumbled after because it's Brunson and then you have a lot of guys with Grimes, Barrett, Josh Hart, Dante Diven Chinzo's there now, Emmanuel Quickly's there. I think that Quentin Grimes is going to be able to solidify himself as this very good 3-n-D guy.

Listen, last year, per cleaning the glass, played the fourth most minutes for the Knicks, had the third highest on-off numbers for the team. Like, he is going to, he's going to be able to defend guys that Brunson isn't necessarily able to, and he's going to provide spacing. I think that as they find some clarity in the, in the back court, Grimes is going to be able to really take a step this year.

Yeah. Wow. I'm interested you didn't say R.J. Barrett. Are you past excepting his breakup? Listen, I was, when we were talking about this, and I was writing down names, I was like, okay, like, is Grimes going to be it? Is it going to be RJ? As soon as I started thinking about RJ, my mind went away from breakout and started going

to, who can we trade R.J. Barrett to? Where can we get him? That's not New York. Because I'm, I was on his side. had a couple good games in the in the cab series i need him out of a nick's jersey now i'm done i'm quickly the turntables i was villainized i was assaulted verbally and now you're on the side of truth uh some random side note what's rj's real in the first name again i don't know i've actually never what the hell i i've been calling him i think it's

like seven years asking me something funny i want to think never known as ron Yeah, there we go. Okay, I did, I did know that just not off the top of my head. But listen, I don't, I really don't care what it is. It's going to have to be like somebody else, some other team is going to have to say his full name. That's understandable. He can't be announced at Madison Square Garden by December. That's funny.

Well, he will be exactly anywhere. Sorry to break to you. They're not trading him. No. Suffer. Thanks. All right. Yeah, I like the grinds pick.

I agree. Yeah, exactly. I kind of want, me personally, if I were you don't even, I don't know why, but maybe I just like his game more, it's more appealing to me, but I may would have lean towards Emmanuel quickly, but crime is a great pick, so I can't cap. Yeah, I want, I wanted to go to go quickly, but I also didn't know if it was going to be like breakout because he was

like about to win six men of the year last year. So true. I'm happy you brought that up. So for the southeast, Atlanta Hawks, I have Jalen Johnson. He's someone who didn't get any burn during his rookie season. Barely got any burn during the second year too, but his third year, well, actually his second year, he got a little bit of burn. And now this coming season will be his third year. And he's someone who his player archetype fits the type of basketball that I envision Quinn Snyder wanting him to thrive in being pseudo run and dunk man while also being an auxiliary piece to help

distribute the ball and being not like a Draymond Green S type player. But having a passing job for sure. Yeah, exactly. Having the passion chops are also being a high level finish above the room, which is extremely important. Now, I don't know if he's going to start necessarily day one because we do have a lot of options and spacing is important. He's not the greatest shooter in the world. But I know that when it comes to breakout, he has the opportunity and potential to go ahead and do those things now that there's a massive void in the power and the power ford spot

now that John Collins is gone. So he's the perfect prayer in my mind who fits this breakout mold. Yeah, I think like you said, he's not the greatest shooter. It comes under that. if he can become an effective shooter at least in the corners then I think he'll break up for sure like you said when you have the passing the room pressure and having the size

to be a solid defender you're one jump shot away from being an incredibly useful player for any team so I like that I'm was that an easy pick for you or did you consider onyaka or yeah because already like that he's already like that every if you're an NBA nerd you should know that like this guy's one of the best defense in NBA he's just like

relax he just plays with okay forest position he is one of okay one of the best is great whatever what does that mean top 25 whatever yeah whatever whatever you want to put it that's still fucking impressive um he's good but yeah his production is already there numbers are already nice yeah and he's already had plenty of moments to shine but jalen johnson he averages what maybe three two four points per game you know i'm saying and so when it comes to being a breakout player he fits more that mold than someone like a yeah who's had the shine over the last few years jaylon johnson is the most

unproven player that we all agree is going to be good just purely out of vibes and traits it's great he's done as hell man he knows how to run we all agree hey it looks real good he's got to be able to do it eventually yeah exactly real his shot is so jacked up but i think i feel confident yeah i know it's so fucked but i feel confident that the hawks will do their due diligence and put them in the right places i agree i think it's a good pick we can move on to my next team jumping over to the other division i think i have the southwest is my second division. We're going to go with the Grizzlies.

And I don't see a ton of names in terms of like unknown guys that are going to become known just like a Jalen Johnson. So I'm going to go with Desmond Bain. I think this is purely because with jaw missing 25 games, Bain is going to have a lot of time

to get a lot of fucking shots up and show his offensive creation bag a little more than he has in previous years. And to start of last year, he was cooking with grease until he got hurt. He was crazy. He was averaging like 25 points per game and everybody was like,

is just a Desmond man? breakout and he came back after the injury it was good but he didn't recaptured that volume of efficient scoring like he was early in the season and I think now he has a 25 game runway where not only can he do that they're going to need him to do that so I fully expect him to take a leap and hopefully keep that up when shot comes back because he's going to step into that role after like I said a big sample size of 20 plus games and I think this would be the year people start to realize he's like legitimately a top five shooting guard in the league okay yeah I'm I'm with that.

I think I'm not too excited about like, like I can, no, no, like I can, I can see this happening, but when Jock comes back, that's going to be the moment where I think that there might be a job off. But in terms of like people, in terms of people recognizing that Bain is actually like really good, I do agree with you. I think this might be the year for him. Yeah. Yeah.

Especially with that contract that he signed. Exactly. Yeah. He has to... Okay, Nikiel just pulled up his stats without jaw. He averages 22 points, five assists, and five rebounds without jaw last season in how many men's...

16 games. Listen, he takes another step. He was average 25 before he got hurt. If he got up to like 24 and a half, five and five for 25 games without jaw, he could be an all-star. 25 games is enough to have a legit all-star campaign. Like, he can be this year's most improved player

if he keeps up when shot comes back. That's fair. That's fair. I like that. I think that's a stretch. Yeah, most of the movie, that's not happening. Impossible. But because 24 points for game is not a big of a group, it's not as big of a dump.

There's going to be someone in the NBA who has, you're right. Like, you're missing that like production gap. You know what I'm saying? He doesn't have the gap because sadly he's already like that. Sure. If Jordan Poole comes out, an average of 26, it makes an all-star game, maybe he'll win. But I think Descent Bain could be in the mix if he makes an all-star leave, which I don't think is possible. Yeah.

He ever's 21, 5 and 4, like, there's no way he's winning. most improved unless he never mind Oh no opportunity Listen there's not always A crazy breakout star So maybe there's not gonna be a laggard man I don't know but you're right

It's probably not gonna win it but No if I were out he's gonna make A potential low level all-star leap this year I think Okay yeah I'd lean that way too if I were either him Or I would say like Kenneth Lofton Jr He's not gonna be a star Not gonna start or anything like that

But he's gonna put up good numbers because Brandon Quarkers heard what the fuck else you're going to play you know what I'm saying so yeah well I like it donovan who's your next player um all right we're going to go to the northwest division you're going to go to the Minnesota Timberwolves my breakout player is jada McDaniels jada McDaniels amazing pick listen jane jane McDaniels listen go crazy go stupid on defense he can right I think that this is going to be the year where his offensive game is going to become a little bit more complete. And once he starts getting there and he's like an elite, like three and D type of guy, he's like people are going to start recognizing like,

oh yeah, Jada McDaniels is, is him. He's already super versatile defensively. He's fantastic. He's, he's the best wing defender that, um, that the Timberwolves have. And if Minnesota takes us a little bit of a step forward, listen, they were like, what, ninth or tenth in the, I think they were ninth last year. If they're just a little bit better, a little bit more consistent, all the eyes on Minnesota because Anthony Edwards there, his defense is going to fly off of the screen. And I think that he's going to have a fantastic year. Yeah. I think it's underselling him by saying he might be one of the best three D players. I think he's already that. I think he's already one the best defenders in the league and competent shooter. He has a potential to continue to work in more

that off the dribble shooting mid-range bag. We saw last year a little bit continue to improve his ability to drive to the rim be a little bit of a creator for himself he could make make a potential like not all-star leave i don't know if he has that ceiling but yeah he could one day be a little of all-star like he does not have a ceiling of just being an elite three and d role player he might be like that guy i don't know because why you say that i just watched him go against some random ass rookie and he dropped two for he was too freighter from the field bro and preseason it's preseason i know but i don't know if i'll ever i'll ever see him in that like low tier all-star light ever and I think there's nothing wrong

to jump you're right I'm not predicting but like he had that's his ceiling his ceiling is he could be a guy that has was already he could be bridges in a way mckell bridges one day he could be that guy that when you give him more offensive duty over the years he can expand into that role a more that'll be amazing if they ever got we're here I'm glad we're here I'm surprised you didn't think Anthony Edwards I think most people would have expected that are you saying that because you think he's already here yeah yeah people he's good yeah yeah they know him so usually i would hate going this route but i'm staying

to the southeast charlotte hornets i have to go with mark williams now he was a rookie last season and fucking like your production chart is fucking empty because you're a rookie you know what i'm saying but with that being said the charlotte hornets are going to be or not charlott's fans already know what they got but the rest of the NBA they're going to be in for a pleasant surprise because you have a fantastic running duck man who's a great finish around the room. And obviously, he's a, he's going to, he's one of the, I don't want to say better rent protectors, but he's a pretty good red protector. And for the Sean Horace, for the little that they have and all the dysfunction and you know what's going on.

I don't need to say it that they have going on, bro. He is solid, consistent and reliable. And I expect him being like whenever people think about the Sean Hornets, they're going to envision Marcus William or Mark Williams into. to that atmosphere of like, yeah, he's a part of the core. He's a part of their future. Yes. I can see that. I'm interested now to see what his minutes are going to be like.

If he's going to be, I assume he'll open the year as a starter. Has to. Since Plumdog Millionaire isn't there to steal his minutes anymore, I'm interested to see if he, you know, makes the best use of those minutes and proves to be the guy where I think he can be because of his draft status and physical traits. Yeah. So I hope you're right. Because if he becomes that guy and they have that centerpiece to go with,

their premier number two overall pick wing shooter plus lamello ball like that could be a building block that could really complement their other stars exactly that's what they need that's what they need and if he doesn't end up painting out then that's just like another oof for the charlotte hornet's track record bro of their many moves yeah yeah man i guess we go to my next team next up we have the clippers and this is the team that there is not fucking a single person on here that strikes you as a breakout player all their players are wily veterans that's all they got so i went with kenyon martin junior i think he's a guy just got traded there and for the last couple years on the rockets under stephen silas he kind of struggled to find minutes they had a lot of other

people playing his same position with jabari smith tari isen daniel house before whatever he was like a rookie actually did they even overlap no i'm thinking of uh what's another guy's name i'm drawn blinks who who's your boy oh who's that other four they have on the Rockets. The guy who was solid two years ago didn't play a lot last year. I can never remember. Solid two years ago. I'm going to be so pissed off. Jayshan? Yeah, Jayshon Tate. Yeah, Jayshon Tate. That's what I was thinking of. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, Kenyon Martin was behind Jayhont Tate the year before last. And then last year, they brought Jabari Smith in there who had another body to take over minutes. And I think Kenney

Martin got pushed to the edges, but he might be one of the better players out of the people I just named. So now he's going to go to a team as contending and needs him in a bench role that's going to allow his ability as a role player to shine. He's one of the best dirty work players in the league, crashes the offensive boards, a great finisher at the rim, insanely athletic. And I think you put him next to other stars and allow him to start his role, as people say. I think he'll shine most of this year. Yeah, I definitely trust him more in Los Angeles with Tyloo coaching him rather than in Houston with Stephen Silas is coaching. And also, like, not even trying to be funny, but like with Paul George and Kauai being hurt a lot, like there's

going to be a lot of opportunities for for him to get even more minutes than what he was probably slided for and he's for sure fly in my face come on ken martin junior is the perfect pick me up when the los angeles clippers are inevitably sad because of another catastrophic kawai lander injury or paul georgia hopefully don't happen knock on wood of course but kenyon martin he's the perfect he's a perfect distraction through all the sadness that they're going to be facing through this year potentially he's the same he's the same he's the He's going to be a fan favorite role player for sure. He's going to be a player that any team that is trying to win games is going to be very happy

to watch play for their teams, a Josh Hart. Yeah, shout of Josh Hart. I'm with that, what's your next team? Okay, so I'm going to go back, back to the Atlantic, stay in New York. We're going to go to the Brooklyn Nets and I'm going with Dennis Smith Jr. That's a good pick. I think that we talked about it a couple of, episodes ago, but just how good Dennis Smith Jr. was on defense last year. And I want you guys to

listen to these numbers. Dennis Smith Jr. was in the 99th percentile in guards in terms of on-off defensive, yeah, in terms of defensive on-off. He was in the 84th percentile in defensive turnover percentage and 100th percent tile in opponent effective field goal percentage. He was like legitimately good on defense. And I think that in Brooklyn, when you have a lot of full forwards and a lot of like wings there's not there's not a lot of guards that are going to be in there that are like a hundred percent like have a stranglehold on this rotation I think that Dennis Smith Jr. with his defense he's going to be able to get minutes he's going to be able to make an impact for them and do a lot of the dirty work on the perimeter for them so I think

that he has a really good chance to to break out this year and kind of like reintroduce himself and reinvent himself in the NBA landscape. 100% all the advanced stats last year defensively point to him as being one of the most effective point guard defenders in the league we just need to see him on a relevant team so the world can notice because nobody was fucking watching him on the hornets yeah yeah exactly and sad to say I don't think anyone was still you know what I'm saying watching because the Brooklyn Nets are borderline irrelevant still but regards to say now this is when Ben Simmons saves him maybe they'll be back on national this is this is just such a a weird career arc

revival because no one ever knew Dennis Smith Jr. as fucking a defender or a defensive stopper that was actually weakness for him coming to the NBA. Literally like what a lot of people thought he was going to be is what you see what John Moran is today. He was in that vein of like explosive offensive talent. To see him just revive his career and literally do the dirty work and still find a place in NBA makes me happy, man. Makes a heart warm. But anyways, staying in the southeast, I'm going to go ahead and talk about someone on the Orlando Magic. I'm very happy to say, get my shit off. I wanted to say Franz Wagner because he's like that on every single aspect on the court.

He's easily one of the best well-rounded players in the entire NBA. But I feel like if anyone is going to have a breakout year, someone who better fits this mold, it has to be their recent lottery pick, Jalen Suggs, because the opportunity for him to maintain. this position the starting job at number two is clear as day it's there he just was in he just had terrible injury look earlier earlier in the season but when he whenever he did eventually catch his rhythm he would be a consistent shooter for them and on top of that he is a fantastic off guard too i don't think he can ever be we could be a potential like one guard one day but i don't think that's necessarily his back he thrives as a two guard you know and so

what he's not that good though you said what he just sucks what if he's not I think it's a consistency for me. It's a consistency. And whenever you're so injured and on top of that, your team is rifting and they're trying to find new things going on, it's hard to actually find your place, especially as a young player. You know,

so as long as he's healthy and he can shoot threes, along with, you know, maintaining this pace, not going too fast, 100 mile. I know. You can literally say that to any NBA player.

And you're like that. Literally anyone, anyone, bro. And you're like that. Mark out of his healthy. shooting threes he's Damien Lillard so we'll see facts facts exactly but I feel like Mark Hell's fault's spot is like more so solidified and a lot of people already see that he's like that but if Jalen Suggs can maintain shooting 33 or not 33 my bad

35 36% while also being productive on the defensive end which he's already a fine defensive player man like he can have a great season to find himself as like the as the two for that team for many years to come i can see that yeah i would have went uh franz wagner for the reasons you said i think he's going to prove to make that jump this year and be one of the more well-rounded forward than the league but for this team to really take off they need jalen sugs to be good and if you think with consistency he'll be that i can respect the pick i'm just worried that he might just suck like granted he hasn't had a chance he's been hurt so much but like he hasn't shown shit when he's been on the court either though he's shown things he's shown things

I mean, nothing that's like, he's a guy. Nothing that he's the guy. I mean, looking at we're here at these numbers, he shot 77% from the fruit throw line the first year, rookie year, and then 72. We're bringing out free phone numbers for breakout candidates. I know. I know.

I know. I know. But Orlando Magic fans, if you're listening to the three of you out there, you know that I'm right and I'm talking my shit right now. If Jaila sucks, solidifies his spot, this team is making levels. And I ain't a lie. They're a lock.

to be a playoff team if he steps up and he's consistent. I guess. If stepping up means he's like great, then sure, maybe. Are the Orlando Magic Jalen Suggs team? Y'all laugh now. Y'all laugh now. I don't know. They're building around Jalen Sucks.

Oh, man. They're building around Jonathan Isaac. Him and his preaching. Listen, he's a Fox News breakout star. We'll give him that. Gross. He might rock the Republican National Convention. He might be a star.

are there. Next team I got, I'm going to go to the Dallas Mavericks. Easy pick. Josh Green. Yeah. Yeah, it's got to be Josh Green. You, low key, you could say Grant Williams if you think he's going to be better in a maybe expanded role, but he's just going to be Graham Williams.

Yeah, I think he's just who he is. He's going to be cool, right? Yeah, it'll be solid. It'll be PJ Tucker and V2. But, yeah, I think Josh Green is there, he's put into a light because he's their most promising young guy, which maybe he's just the cream of a shit crop. But I think he's impressive.

He's a good player. He's a good 3&D guy who has the skills to attack closeouts and be a secondary creator off of that. And I think that's always a really nice role to have in a team with two star ball handlers. It's kind of what made Bridges so good offensively playing alongside Devin Booker and Chris Paul is that he can post up.

And once he catches it, he can attack that dribbler, I mean, attack the defender and make some shit happen. I think Josh Green can mold him that same type of player and if he is similar what you said with jalen sugs if he can make that leap that'll be what takes the mavericks to the next level but also they're not starting him we found out today they're starting um what's that rookie's name prosper something like that two last names yeah max solivate i can't remember his name but they're starting him and derrick

lively so they have two rookies starting maybe josh green won't get the opportunity to have this breakout year but if he does i think he's the most likely player of this team But it's like Oliver, man. His name was Oliver, Maxine Prosper. Oh, Olivier. Olivier. Oh, my bad. They call him OMAX.

That's what they call him. Okay, cool. That's what we will call him on this part. OMAX is kind of hard. I ain't go why. Yeah, OMAX is dope. Yeah, they're going to start OMAX and Derek lively. So maybe it's one of them.

But if Josh Green has that opportunity, I think he has a talent there to make something happen. I hate this that they're starting or they're taking their, they're what the fuck does jason kid have against joss jrine bro because he did this shit last year when they traded for someone on the hawks who was fucking ass what's his name one of the holidays brothers bro they immediately took josh green out of the starting lineup put this man just in holiday into the starting lineup shit the bed completely bro and they put it in they and they put green back in the starting line i don't like how they're treating him over there

and to be honest with you i i feel like he listen a lot of maz fans think that jason kid is a terrorist and they don't like him with things good coach maybe it's a bad decision but maybe it's the fact that they don't have any creation on the bench maybe they just quote they need to have a six man who could do something with the ball in his hands do you just use such wild terms for bad NBA coaches he's just not a good basketball coach and now he's a national threat

like come on man I don't know I have a biggest threat to humanity god man I'm just telling you what the pulse of the Dallas Mavericks Nation on Twitter is a lot of them don't fuck with him maybe it's a bad decision to Bench Green maybe it's for line-up balance I don't know

I haven't paid enough attention to chasing kids' decisions to have an opinion on my own but yeah I hope you I hope eventually Josh Green proves to be that guy that can start

because that'll be big for them yeah he probably will he probably will maybe OMAX is just the truth though maybe maybe he's just nice I don't know anything about him but with a name like OMAX he might just be a Terminator

shit I don't know he passes the name he just puts on the street he passes He passes And then he's What's your next team, Donaldwood?

Godly. All right. I guess I'll go back to the Northwest Division. We're going to go to the Oklahoma City Thunder. I'm taking Isaiah Joe. He was my...

He was my most underrated player whenever we did that episode. I love that. Listen, I guess I'm just a really big Isaiah Joe fan. He's the best shooter that they have. And I think that with Shay, Giddy,

and now that like Chet's there and they're going to be able to like anchor the defense around him you are going to be able and you're going to need to have a lot of shooting around shay who gets into the lane like that you're going to need to have shooting around giddy who can get into lane and a driving dish and Isaiah Joe is exactly that um listen offensively Isaiah Joe his um his on off numbers he was a plus eight he was a plus eight all good in terms of like overall but then offensively When he's on the floor, the Thunder were plus 10 when Isaiah Joe's on the floor. And it's just his shooting last season was the first time that he actually got like consistent minutes in an NBA team.

And he was good. Like, listen, like 10 points a game, right? 62% true shooting. He's going to be a really valuable piece for their rotations to give them the spacing that they need to let their playmakers get into the lane. So I like how they do a lot. Yeah, their team is built around three soon to be potentially star ball handlers. None of whom are good shooters. You need Isaiah Joe to slot into that lineup and make that lineup work.

If you have him and Chad Holmgren, space in the floor with Giddy, SGA, and Jalen Williams providing wind pressure, they're cooking. Exactly. Yeah, he's, bro, he's, I love that pick Donovan. He's going to be an integral part to their success, and he's going to have a job in the NBA for a very long time. I love it. Yeah, I love a nice role player, shooter specialist. Facts, exactly. What are you more Calcovers in the league?

So moving on to the Washington. Isaiah Joe was fifth in fifth and threes made for 36 minutes. Pretty good. Like that. He's like that. No, buddy hills is a good comparison. He's,

but he's smaller, buddy, Hill's. Oh my goodness. Just give him the opportunity. He's knocking down shots. He's going to do it. The 76ers fumbled him so bad.

I know a lot of sixers fans are pissed about that. They never gave him the run. He should have. Just not, like chaos. Man, nothing but it's such over there, bro.

But moving on, staying in the southeast. Staying with the Or we're going over to the Washington Wizards I have Jordan Poole For my breakout player of the year We don't have to talk about it that much I mean he's gonna go ahead and change that culture

And be the face of that organization Opportunity a lot of buckets We can move on Yeah it makes total sense right He's a guy that can can score in bunches Those are the team that wasn't built to let him cook Now he's on a team that is gonna give him Exclusive rights to cook

He's gonna be chef of the week every week It's gonna be great for him He might average 26 points But don't be surprised if it's on 38% from the field I think if the overrun just 24 and a half I think I'll go over I think we'll have a 25 Yeah, I think that's fair I disagree I just actually know

Maybe like 23.8 I'll go there I may maybe a little bit lower But I won't be shocked if you average 25 Nah give me 24 lock it in Yeah, let's allow your marketing average 24 He and Jordan Bull could do that this year I'm not I just I really just don't like care that much about the about the Washington Wizards to go back and forth to you on if he's going to average 25 or 24 like it'll be you'll be good but I mean he has no one to defer to so he's letting him fly all right my next team

it'll be another quick one nothing to talk about here Keegan Murray for the Kings I think yeah he got drafted as an older player who was supposed to be good right away he was good right away. I think next year going to year two, he'll continue to be good right away. And I think he'll get better and better. And he's really the only sign of improvement this team can hope for. I think Kevin Herder is who he is. He's like 26, 27. He's going to be him. Subonis, like 28, he's going to be him. Fox made that leap last year. I don't see another big leap. Paris and Barnes is old as fuck. He's him. And I think the only sign of growth they're going to have is really going to be Kenyon Murray continuing to get better as he gets more time under his belt. And listen,

if you're not some Kings fans, they think he'll be like their best player, one. day he'll be a star i don't know if i see that he's fucking 23 years old i don't know if i see a huge amount of improvement left but either way he's continue to be a really high quality forward a really solid role player for them and that's the best best option for this team yeah that's a great synopsis i agree like they're not set up for anyone else to thrive unless daren fox has some more shit into his bag that we haven't seen yet which i'm optimistic about but yeah Kyle uh kegan murray he set up to succeed on that team and he's only young player there to who might have another gear or another notch

to head to other than that they have who like Davy on Mitchell but like he's not so to be successful and they don't view him from what I see like a part of their future in any sort of way he's just there as a backup until he gets moved eventually so Keegan Murray this Sacramento Fangs want this to be

your team that's crazy it has to be if they're going to make a huge leaf they need a Keegan Murray breakout it's not happening thanks all right I'm I'm gonna say my next guy we're going to stay in the northwest division another year two guy you mean christian brown to break out for the nuggets um with listen we're bruce brown gone in indiana christian brown he's going to have to step up and play a lot of those roles that bruce brown was doing he's going to be a very integral part

to their bench to their depth he listen he had a lot of performances throughout the playoffs especially in the finals where he came in was the spark plug doing things on both ends of the floor he's going to be a very good connecting piece off the bench for them and so yeah i I think that he is going to elevate in this in this role with more opportunity. For sure. I think that's undoubtable. The reason they were fine letting him walk of him being Bruce Brown is because Christian Brown is there and I hate the way he spells his name.

It pisses me off. I feel like Jeff Van Gundy. But yeah, this is the best fact. There's really no other options with this team. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Speaking about almost like no other options to finish off the southeast of Miami Heat.

Oh, Lord. It's going to be like the most random player. that no one has ever heard of. You know, he has no face scan in 2K, probably a 69 overall. Zero badges, shooting 65% from three, those type of vibes. So with that being said, I have potential two options. I have one written down on my list. I'm going to say his name Haywood Highsmith, but really I want to flip it.

And I want to say Julian Champany. I think out of everyone on their team, which is such a deep cut, bro. They're in the mud. Yeah, they're in the mud. You know what I'm saying? He might be the next. He might be the next in terms of getting it out of the mud, like the most nobody player, car unquote, like Julian Champany, bro.

Similar to Max Trueson, Gabe Vincent. He's a productive player. He ate in the G-League last year for the San Antonio Spurs. Surprising that they let him go, but I guess it makes sense considering how much they invest in in Devon Basel. But that's either here or there. Julian Champany has the highest ceiling just because of the archetype of player that he is. I would say Hayward Highsmith, but the. hope for him is to shoot 35% from being played good defense consistently that's it

bro and that's not a high bar and that's not a breakout to me yeah okay listen every year the heat fine when these people to inject super soldier serum into and they just become fantastic role players that'll get paid by another contender later i won't be shocked at all if champagne is the guy this year because i can't be shocked at anything with the miami heat it's not allowed anymore so i'll give it to you exactly we're we're laughing now they're make us pay later yeah champagne he's gonna seal the playoff series as they take down the 76ers It's going to be great. It's a conference finals MVP incoming.

All right. Next team, I have who we're going to next, the Pelicans. And I wanted to go Trey Murphy. I think that was a conventional pick. Trey Murphy's awesome. I think it will be very good. I am going Zion Williamson. Oh my God, he's serious.

No way. This is a fraudulent breakout player pick. I once again believing in a Zion Williamson breakout. I think all we've heard all summer, listen, we hear this bullshit. every summer from every team so take it with a grain of salt but it seems to be that he is finally focusing on his health and understands the situation he's in with the fact that he's wasted the first four years of his career because of injuries that some hand isn't his fault some hand is some hand is him not taking his health seriously and putting himself in the best

situation to deal with his body type and the fact that he'll always be a little bit injured it seems like now is a year where they're finally emphasizing that and he's taking it seriously so listen all he has to do is not get hurt which is a huge Hmong as if, but if he stays healthy, he's guaranteed to make a jump to being one of the best players in the league. Like, it's not a question of if he can get better at this or better at that. It's literally just, if you're healthy, you're going to be all NBA. And that is the definition of a breakout to me. Listen, being a father gives you perspective, I guess.

That sounds like I'm a father. Listen, I'm not a father. There's something you need to tell us? Stop that. Stop that. Listen, all I'm saying is that if Zion, no, listen, one, this is a fraudulent pick. He's been in the league for like five years. He's every, Mo put him in his top 10 players at the start of the last season.

Mo was crazy. You said, you agreed with Moe though, but you agreed with Moe and was like, listen, I support you because you took the extra step that I wish that I would have done in my list, but I didn't. Did I do it? stop it but you co-signed this is a guy this is a guy that you already think can be like MVP caliber of the league and it's literally just healthy or not healthy i don't think that that's like quality breakout doesn't mean one thing breakout doesn't have to mean you go from irrelevant to good or from good to great it can be anything No one does not. What are you talking about? You're bending this rules of society. It literally means...

Breakout just means you're breaking out and hitting a new tier. It can mean multiple things. But there's no tier that he's hitting. It's literally just are you healthy or are you not? Like there's nothing on the basketball floor. I'm saying he could be an MVP voting type of guy if he says healthy.

Was he in MVP voting last year? He was in conversations when he was healthy. There were the number one school last year. I'm saying if he says healthy who catafled himself into those conversations. He's not a breakout. You're tweaking on this slide. He's not a breakout player.

You are, you are, why are we actually like this a definition to breakouts? Because we already decided that this was like a very like loose thing, but you took it too far. This is ridiculous. First of all, why do you care? What are we talking about? Listen, man, words mean things, okay? Okay.

Yeah, no, you're bending definitions here and I ain't with that, Isaac. There's no definition. No. No, this is too far. Finding the definition of break out. That is crazy. Give trade Murphy's flower. Great, Sam Murphy's an average 14 instead of 12.

Whoopty-do. I'm glad you fucking put that into writing. I'm glad we used a slot to discuss Shrey Murphy's extra two points per game this year. He's hurt, so I don't even know we'll get to that. There we go. I'm glad he wasted it on nothing. No, screw you still.

Screw you for life. For screwing him, bro. That's crazy. I can't get behind that. I can't. Who's your next team? All right. Who do I'm next?

You know, we'll get the jazz out the way. And I guess we'll just finish up with the L.A. But, yeah, we'll get the jazz with the way. I'm picking Kianti George. He's a rookie. He's a rookie. You're Benny the rules, too. What are, what type or what are we on?

Who's your next guy? Ruggie can't be breakouts. It's impossible. No, who's your next guy? Bro. Who's your next guy? You have to, you can break out when you were in the league the last year. It's impossible.

You don't work. Can you say, can you say Colin Sexton and now move on? between Kianti George being a breakout player and literally Zaya Williamson, who you had in MVP talks. He was an all-star. This is equally as bad. This is equally as bad.

I can go lie to you. Kiante played zero games. He just had some fantastic summer league highlights. What is he breaking out from? He just got his first check like two days ago. I'm joking. You can pick Kiante, George. I don't care.

That's terrible. You should be calling sex and God damn it. Or Al-Tabaji, someone else. Listen, I was between, I was between Kianti and I just think that Kianti. George is really good. I think that he's going to be better than that's why I picked him. I think he'll immediately contribute and can be a guy that takes him to the next level. This is a nasty work. All right. Anyways, moving on. You guys care so much

about the definition of breakout. Yes. No, it's just like when it's egregious like that and you're picking Zion Williamson, it's like, okay, come on. Donovan, you're egregious too. You actually might be a little bit worse because he didn't play anything. I don't fucking think it's egregious. I think breakout means as somebody who's going to take a leap and take a team to the next level. And if Zion stays healthy, he will do that. But when we're talking about that, we're talking about it in the terms of like their basketball skill.

And there's literally nothing that we're talking with Zion. It has nothing to do with his basketball skill. It doesn't matter. One, it's just a different pick for a different reason, which is okay. It doesn't all kind of be the same reasons. There's no breakout though. Oh my God.

The breakout will be first team all NBA. You become first team all NBA. you broke out. You did something you've never done before. It doesn't matter why he did it. He wasn't able to do it last year and he might do it next year. That's the point.

Why are we arguing about this definition of breakout? Come on. See, Donovan, you have no right to continue to argue this because you heard that and proceeded to choose Keonté George. As of now, like, your definition holds no weight to me.

I will go ahead and keep this tradition alive. He lost credibility. Yeah, exactly, bro. You're not standing on business Like you came to stand on business Let's be for real Come on now you can't pick you on tins church God

You're from an all star To break out to now like a rookie Who didn't even play no games I was like what are we doing right now But anyways This is getting off the rails Let's continue central division You use free throw percentage

To tell me that Jalen Suggs is going to be a good player this year You don't have any right To tell me what my definition is And he shot He shot worse from the free throw line You use declining free throw numbers to be like now yeah you got it

you pick the worst player in the magic rotation listen bro my I have validity in my argument though if he can shoot on a consistent basis then he got a spot that's it no when it comes to definition of breakout he is that there's no definition of okay yes there is

look it up Marion Webster bring this shit up bro let's keep it moving everybody gets one egregious pick we all we all Chicago Bulls let's move on Chicago Bulls I-O-Dosumu They have no

Like young players for real Other than Patrick Williams I want to say Patrick Williams But I'm going against my own beliefs So that's I-O Plus there's no Lanzo So the opportunity is going to be there I think if I would have broke out

He would have been did it I think I was IO Facts That's fair Well the Bulls are just mid Facts They have no good options next team I got

The Golden State Warriors I guess it's got to be Jonathan Caminga Okay Whatever that looks I agree I don't go that way I don't think that

Jonathan Caminger is going to break out And I don't think that You think that Jonathan Caminger is going to break out either So we just got to move on Because we're all just lying at this point It's either him or Moses Moody I don't know who else you could possibly pick They have two young guys that can possibly make a growth spurt

I'm just going to go Camiga I don't know why Okay, cool All right My next one I'm going to go with the Blazers I guess I guess I go Shading Sharp

For me it was between Between I should know I'm not getting to you Mother Pink Because it's kind of egregious But I'll go with Shatine sharp right now What are you going to say?

I was going to say Deandra Aiton That's not a creature Oh that's great That's even better than Shannon Sharp Because Sharp was a rookie I love that Cool. Cool. I'll go with DeAndre Aiton, just because I think that he's going to be in a position where more touches are going to go his way. He's going to be in a position where his offensive game is going to be able to be expanded. He's going to be a featured role. Maybe he finds whatever effort and hustle or motor that he lost from his first two years. And he's a like legitimate two way guy that also like looks the part as well as like the numbers match the way that he looks. So, yeah, I'm going to go with Aiton.

Oh, yeah, I respect that. I love that big. I think Anthony Simons could also make a big leap. Another dame isn't there. But yeah, I am still fully, I have all the DeAndre Aten stock. Everybody's trying to get me to panic, sell it. I won't do it. I think he's good.

And I feel like I'm the only one left that thinks that in the world. So I'm glad to hear that you think he's at least decent. Yeah. He's good. He's solid. He conformed into the definition of outbreak. I love it. And I'm going to continue this trend.

Next up, I have the Cleveland Cavaliers. And for this team, it's weird because they don't have any really young players who have a massive opportunity to surge production-wise on the court and also numerically as well. So with that being said, I might have to lean towards Evan Mobley. If you can take another leap, that'll do not numbers. Yeah, if he takes another leap, that'll do wonders for the for the Cleveland Cavaliers on the court and also win total losses. But when it comes to him averaging 20, I don't know if that will happen because he has Darry's Garland. and Donovan Mitch on his team. But if you can pop a J here or two on a consistent basis, hell, may I even say,

can he hit a three-pointer a game? Then that cast team looks different. And that's what they need. They need more versatility and flexibility on the offensive end. And he just needs to gain a couple pounds too. Yeah, yeah. Look, if he could be healthy and make threes, he could break out. So like, I'm with it.

So everyone. He has to get that strength. And if he's not going to be a good jump shooter, He has to be a good self-created rim score. Right now, he's a great love threat when people are creating for him, which is no good when you have two dynamic guards to run pick and rolls with. But if he can't do anything off the dribble, it's going to be tough for that offense to stay afloat in the playoffs.

So I agree. It doesn't necessarily got to be shooting, though. It can be, like you said, strength to just create your shot in some way. Very right now. It's kind of like, it's kind of very like young Chris Osporzingis-ish, where like he's just tall and skinny and can't really get to a spot. Oh, gosh, yeah. Random ass, no, but Zaire Smith is on this roster.

I don't know if anyone knows who that is, but he was drafted by the Philadelphia 76ers over McAll Bridges. He was traded for McCau Bridges, which is one of the, like, low-key most egregious trades in recent history. They gave up bridges and two first round picks to get Zires. And this dude, I tell you, this dude almost died, all right, right when he got drafted. He had a peanut allergy, bro. And since then, he got cut from an NBA team. I forgot who got traded to, and he hasn't been able to play basketball since then.

And I'm just now looking. He got picked up by the Cleveland Cavaliers. That's insane. Yeah, it's a crazy story. He lost like 40 pounds in the season. Like something crazy. And that's why he never recovered. It was crazy.

That was Eric Smith. Glad he's still on a team. Yeah, that's great. My next player is on the Houston Rockets. A lot of young guys in this team. I went with Jabari Smith Jr. Whittick is going to have a much, much, much better season than last year and make people realize that he was the top three pick for a reason.

I think after last year, people kind of think he's a bust and he just fucking sucks and can't do anything. I think that's because, like everybody else in this roster, he was playing for Stephen Silas, who was by far the worst coach in the NBA, to put it politely. And when you come under a new coach that is defensive-oriented, is, I don't, discipline-oriented, are going to make them be playing like an actual team and not just a bunch of guys out there hooping

and can put him in positions to succeed and not just have to create everything for himself off the dribble, I think we'll realize that he has this really high-level catch-and-shoot-shooting ability for a big man and can do something attacking the dribble handoffs with that. And yeah, I think it'll just prove to be a very solid player, which is all you can really ask for for a second year leap. Yeah, I'm with it.

I think that for Jabari and even for the Rockets, like as a whole, having EMAe there is going to give them a lot more direction. And especially having Van Bleet there to kind of set people up. Yeah. I like to speak. I think, and even whenever he was drafted, everybody kind of understood like that. Offensively, Jabari is going to take time to,

to develop and now that he's been in the league for a year and again there's just going to be better structure in Houston I really like this pick from you I'm with it yeah I don't see a world where he doesn't have a bounce back here at least in some capacity maybe we'll still think that his stealing isn't what we thought it could be at the draft but he's got to be better off of after last year there's no way he doesn't yeah let this picture the gild is pulled up so it looks like jbarri ate a oh nice strong mushroom yeah he adds some muscle over the off season

Added some muscle He was putting in work in a fucking 2K gem bro Got some VC and went ahead And tatted up his arm He was doing who's putting in work for real I love that Yeah I think it'll be good

I still don't necessarily I think he'll be a star And I don't know if we should have went in top three But I think it'll be a very good productive player Yeah All right I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with the Raptors I don't think that anybody's really gonna break out this year

I think that the Raptors are extremely mid and don't really have a lot of hope so i think for them the biggest thing that they can't hope is that scotty barnes returns to yeah that he gets back on whatever development path that they thought he was going to be on and that everything that they saw of rookie of the year in his first season was was was more than just like a tyreek evans rookie of the year where it's a one-off and we're never going to see that again um but i think that he's going to be in a position where like the ball's going to be in his hands hopefully he can be like a better playmate he can shoot better I think this one is more of just like a hope for raptors fans and for the organization that he can take another step and really not even go past where he was just get back to where you were and then we can keep moving from there but there's a lot of improving that barnes needs to do yeah they're they're gonna he said they're gonna need him to improve or they're going to be

extremely crap like just they're there that's all they hope to have and during media day it was interesting because they talked a lot about last year they were playing selfish basketball and in a lot of ways it kind of felt like they're pointing fingers at pascal siacum everything they were saying kind of seemed like they like they don't value siacum like he's their best player and don't really want to build around him like it wasn't very encouraging if you're siaccom and you hear your team talk about you as the best player so that sounds to me like they're probably going to be prioritizing scotty barns and also uh masai ujiri's son ojana nobi those two guys are going to get a bulk of the focus and maybe siakum isn't going to be there that long if that's the case you could see them with a new

coach putting a lot of emphasis on putting barns and positions to succeed facts they want listen they want 10 first round pigs for ojanaobie they're going to ship pascal siacum out for a bag of chips and it's going to be and it's going to be scotty barnes's team in no time so yeah he's they're going to need them to step up the shit they were saying about pascal and the selfishness stuff and throwing subtle jabs in him. I was like, this is crazy. They do not respect their best player. Oh my gosh, bro. There's a whole lot of mid going on over there, Toronto. They need to make up what's his name assigned to make up his mind and just try your best to build around Scotty Barnes and get this failed experiment over with row. God,

it's terrible. But moving on to the Milwaukee Bucks for the breakout player, there's not really a lot of obvious because again, vet heavy team, championship contention team. But if anyone has an opportunity to break out, it's going to be Marjon. both champ because he's going to be leaned on or right on a lot um with chris milton still coming back you might have to they're going they're going to be times probably where he's going to be out of the lineup and marchion is logically only is probably going to be the next person up for that and uh he can do a lot of things on this team that you know a lot of other people are a lot other players on their roster aren't best equipped to do he can be a fucking consistent great

finisher while also how many the glass and all that little good stuff stuff. You know, that's the only hope for them to do for him. That's only hope for him. And if he can develop into that while also, hey, can he pop a three? Like we said, there's a consistency when it comes to the list. And if he could shoot, hey, he's up there. You know what I'm saying? So he's on the list. He's on the court. He'll be a good player. Yeah, bro. So he's the only one who really fits this mold of breakout player. Yeah, he has the opportunity to be an effective role player for them from a position of need. I can see this. Yeah, I'm with it

On to my next team We are going to circle back to the Pacific Division And close it out with the Phoenix Suns I went with Nazir Little I think this can be similar to Who did I pick earlier? Kenya Martin Jr., where he's a guy that is decent I don't think he's as promising in any specific area

As Kenya Martin is as a finisher and rebounder and all that stuff But I think he'll be a big wing defender on a team that desperately needs big wing defenders and some young juice in their lineup. So I think who has the opportunity to use his strengths in a very limited role and shine in that role.

And I don't even know if he's like good, but opportunity alone, I think he can be somebody that makes a bigger name for himself with the sons this year and the, you know, the microscope they're going to be under.

Yeah, you could have picked really anybody on their bench. Even, even Eric Gordon and been like he's going to have a break out year just because they're going to have a lot of guys that they need to step up because their top three is so top heavy, you know? So I like, I like this big.

Yeah. Nazir Little is a player who he was in the archetype of, I want to say, like, it just felt like there was an era of NBA draft basketball where there was a bunch of Josh Jackson's and he was lumped into that. Athletic, mean defender, but can you fucking shoot for the life of me, please? And Nazir Little was that. And over the last few years for the Portland Trailblazers, he developed an actual consistent three point shot while also.

doing the viable things like playing menacing defense. So he's a great player. And I genuinely think he's going to be No, he already knows how to knock down three. That's my, that's the thing. And I know that he's going to be one of the, he's going to be a fan favorite over there. He's going to be a piece. No, for sure. He can be a good part of that

closing ladder for them if things go right for him, which would be a big upgrade from where he was at in Portland where he's kind of just twirling away. Yeah. Yeah. All right. My next, my next pick, I'm going to go to the Philadelphia 76ers. I was on this train last year kind of had to delay it a little bit

This is finally going to be Tyrese's breakout year I don't think that James Harder is going to be on this team by December And I think that by that point Maxie will have control of the offense He's going to be able to run it And be their point guard

And he's taking a leap Every year offensively And listen If not now, win Right This team is in huge fluctuation And it's about time that they give Maxi the Keys

It's going to happen He's going to make another jump And everybody Everybody already loves Tyrese Maxine's like Oh he has that dog in him Now is when his play Matches up with the amount of love And you know

Adoration that everyone has for him Yeah it has to be him right Like if losing Hardin Your only hope for keeping Joel and beat happy Is Maxi becoming an all-star I'm becoming a little bit skeptical That he has that ceiling in him But listen

If it hard and goes, somebody has to get those touches And he's an efficient score If he can keep that up and continue that level of efficiency With the increased touches for a whole season It'll be hard for him to not become an all-star Facts Yeah Big facts

I like that So to round this off The Indiana Pacers Your breakout player of the year will 110% be Wait wait wait wait don't say it don't say it Okay I was to say I say at the same time I was going to say is it'll be topping Yeah I'm sure we're all going to say

It'll be topping Good pick good pick This is a picture perfect fit because the type of offense that they play, who he's playing next to F5, fucking Tyrese Maxis's point guard, and Obie Toppin is one of the better athletes in the NBA who loves to play above the rim. And he's just someone who unfortunately got thrown into a situation to where he really wasn't needed as much. You know, he was there around the same time as Julius Randall and then they re-up, they gave Julius Randall a fucking fat ass bag and that then made Obie Topper redundant. Why did they draft him? I know exactly.

I fucking hated it, pro. I fucking hated it. But it is what it is. I can't stand too. You know, like they just fumbled. They just literally derailed three years of his NBA career. And I'm, with the top of progression that I've seen him make

with the very limited touches on the court, him improving his free throw percentage, which is a great indicator to see how good of a shooter someone can be. Yeah. He saw like 80% from the line last year before that, 75, before that 70 or something like that. The improvement is there. Now, we just need to see him.

him get more touches and pin playing high flying offense running up and down the court in transition while also being mad defensively like yo this is a this is a picture perfect place for him and he's set up to go ahead and average maybe 13 points per game and efficient 13 points per game which is great that's that's that's a big improvement that's a big improvement that's a big breakout that's textbook a breakout he went from averaging seven points per game bro and 15 minutes you can easy get up to

yeah that's nice I know that's not funny I was just expecting a big number in the way you just like built up this whole thing yeah that sounds not disgusting I am bro

listen not everybody can be a superstar Isaac okay 13 points it's very solid that's at minimum too bro I'm very happy I'll be topping I like you're in

perfect position being next to a ball handler that can feed him dunks and having a center that can stretch the court and keep that open don't pause me on that that was not

you just said it with so much gumption there's just like okay gumption are you pausing me because I was too excited about dunks no no no no you just

the way you said like listen you put him next to a ball handler and I was just like okay relax relax relax we can't talk about nothing calm down he's gonna run the court and catch lobs

Tyrese Halliburton is one of the best passes in the league to give him those lobs. Miles Turner is one of the best centers in the league to give him space to do those lobs. If he can't succeed here, he can't succeed anywhere. So he has to break out or else he's just not going to be

a relevant player going forward. He's definitely going to be an MIP candidate, top five. Think so. Yeah, for sure. I can see that. That wouldn't shock me. I just don't know if he's that good.

We'll see. You have to have a certain level of talent in you that he has had a chance to tell if he has or not. So we'll see if he has that bagging him. But I look forward to finding out. another guy I will be drafting in fantasy basketball

I'm getting them before you no you're not getting them for my final team listen team number 10 we're finally getting out of here soon or don't this segment so I got a whole lot of podcast left

my last team I have the San Antonio Spurs going with the guy that just got a generational payday Devin Vassil I think you want to our most improved player candidates this might be the favorite to win it this year

I think he's finally going to be on a team that has a centerpiece in Victor Woman Yama that can maybe not he's not going to immediately make them good but he's going to obviously raise their floor purely off of being one of the best reprotectors in the league immediately probably

and again they're going to have more attention on them people are going to be watching them for that alone people are going to realize for the first time that Devin Vassell has been good and now he's going to hit that tier where he has the payday to you know a lot of opportunity comes from locker room politics

and now being the max player on the team he's going to be expected to take that leap and take those touches he has that opportunity plus all the skill plus the attention he's going to be that guy making that jump

into being a low level all-star type guy I think I love that big if you want to go ahead and put some stock in Devon Vesel being most improved

you can do it here are some of the lists here are some of the names in terms of people who have better better odds to be most improved player Cam Johnson

what Palo Bancaro Jalen Green Anthony Edwards Debarre Smith Jr. DeAndre Aiton. Desmond Bain. Obie Toppin. Walker Kessler. Shaden Sharp. Jalen Williams.

Josh Giddy. Frans Wagner. It just keeps going. Who's the favorite? Favorite is McKell Bridges. Lazy pick, but I see it. Who's the top four? Like name off. Top four Bridges, Cunningham, Tyrese,

Anthony Simons, and then Austin Reeves. Okay, that's a good thing. Maybe someone with it. but I think he'll be in that mix far down the list I think that's a good bet honestly I think that's a smart money bet put a little $10 on that

so if you can win $150 listen go ahead and get that he's 50 to 1 right now 51st that's that's crazy see that's what the fuck I'm talking about people don't know what the Spurs existence 50 to 1 oh 51 okay yeah

but that's what I'm talking about people don't know about the Spurs existence and they don't realize he's already good and poised to take a breakout year like people just aren't aware he's a person yeah exactly when he got that fat ass bag and wools announced that everyone was like who what oh my goodness and they just don't for no i don't blame but they didn't watch fucking san antonio spurs basketball bro when back when he got drafted in 2022 i believe i was praying that the Atlanta hawks would go ahead and drives him

because i just envisioned the beautiful synergy and also obviously much needed defensive presence that he provides with that insane length oh no pause great i can have y'all are normal now thank god okay thank god i was waiting for that i was waiting for that but yeah man this is well this is a well-deserved bag that he'll prove that he's worth and expect big things from him this season bro yeah 100% and listen hand up i don't be watching the sports with that either that's the team i watched the least over the last two years but i have to watch every team at least a little bit and i've watched them enough to know debon the cell is definitely

their best player and it's gonna be listen maybe the breakout's just women yama because he's to be the guy that takes them over the top, but from players I already have, it's as a self. Yeah, true. Okay. My last player, we're going with the Boston Celtics,

and listen, this is the only person that I can pick is the only person that can step up. And that's, hold on a six of a set. Yeah. Oh, okay. Who are you going?

Peyton Pritchard. He's not seen the floor. He has to now. Payton Pritchard, listen, Peyton Pritchard is unplayable in playoff. situations. He's not the guy that they need to step up. They need O'Shea Berset to step up. You need some, you need some, listen, he had a bad shooting year last year. The year before that,

he shot 35% from three. They're going to need him to be big, get back to that level shooting because like we talked about earlier, right now they are six deep and their bench is extremely thin. And once you start getting it, you get into Peyton Pritchard, O'Shea Berset, Luke Corvette, those kinds of names. They need one of them to hit. to have a legitimate playoff rotation and I think having the I think having the size and the profile of O'Shea Berset

is what they need. So I think that he, if he was the breakout player for them, that would be best case scenario. I can see that. Yeah, they definitely need somebody in that role and he's the only one they have that can potential to pay that role. Unless they think Luke Cornett is that dude

is going to be their back of big. O'Shea is the best dark throw you can throw out of a whole bunch of bad options. He's been predictive before at an okay level, and I don't see a world where next to better players, well, hopefully I don't see, hopefully there is no world next to better players. He just ends up going on this trajectory of just being a me NBA player. So I respect that big. To round this off so we can go into TikTok time for the Detroit Pistons. I have similar reasons, Cade Cunningham, similar reasons to see you, Isaac.

He just needs to fucking stay healthy, although like Kate Cunningham is already. establishes a good player. He just hasn't shown that consistency because of the jury still out. The jury's still out of shit. He hasn't the shit yet. It's all theoretical. Well, when he, when he has been there,

though, when he has been there, there was rookie year in the first whole games that he did play. Like, he did prove. He was asked literally last year. Okay. Anyways.

He is a starting. Go ahead. Go ahead and kick. He's the starting of a player, bro. And if the Detroit Pistons, like you're saying, if he was asked last year,

last year, music, if they end up, if they want to see any type of projection and scaling up the Ws instead of collecting more L's, then it's going to start and finish with Katie Cunningham. It doesn't matter how good Jaden Ivy is. It doesn't matter how good the Thompson's to win is or anything like that. It starts and finishes with him because he is the driver of that offense. And also he's going to be a part of their defense as well. But when it comes to the scoring, the facilitating, especially because of the type of guard that Jaden Ivy is, like they need him to come through. And I think that he will revive his name this off seat or this season,

similar to like La Mello Ball and sort of kind of being forgotten and all that into one of the better young point guards into the NBA. 100%. You're cooking. If he's not good, then this court isn't going anywhere. They have to recalibrate and tank again to find a new number one pick because everything they do is around him. Jayon Ivy can be a good starting point guard.

Probably not going to be the level of prospect that can be the one on the team. Amen Thompson, I mean, Asar, we all love him. Only love him in this team because he can play next to a star like Kaye Cunningham. If that star, Kay Cunningham isn't there, this team is as hopeless as any in the league. This entire system is broken, bro. And Cade was good. He wasn't fucking ass at all, bro. And when I said that, I was dotting shit up that day.

Listen, he was bleak, bro. But as a rookie, considering as a rookie point guard number one overall pick, he played well, yeah, he shot, what, 30% from the 3.9 or maybe 27, I don't know. Well, he played well. That's good. No, did he make layups? No, not really. But like he was facilitating. He did have, he had plenty of moments, bro.

He had plenty of moments. He looked KD in the eyes two years ago, bro, and was like, I'm here. You know what I'm saying? So, KKM is not ass. I didn't mean that to say that he is like he was putrid or anything. He shot like shit the first 12 games of last year. But as a rookie, the reason I was saying the jury still out is because it's not a guarantee that he's on the path to being

like a superstar. We all think that because of draft status, what he can do with that size and skill and stuff. But even though he looked good his rookie year, Duke point shot wasn't falling. Rims scoring wasn't good. His burst didn't look incredible. The passing was supposed to be like, you can handle it.

Yeah, he's a good defender. We thought he was going to be like a tier one passer, like Lamello type shit. He's not that. He's a good playmaker. But he's not, listen, if we're not an elite passer, shooter, a rim finisher, you're not going to be a star player he has to get better at one of those things at least and that's why so the jurist allow because i think he can he can probably get better at all those things but it's not a guarantee yet he might just be a really good player that's not a star yeah he was

coming out of college time of college and also coming out of high school he had a lot of eyes on him and he was viewed as one of the more complete prospects over the last few years and people were comparing him to the kids people were saying he had shades of jason tatum and luca dants those are very fucking lofty comparisons you know what i'm saying who are people It may have been me. I ain't going to lie to you. But in regards to the fact, the potential is there for him to stand out as a point guard,

someone who's six, seven, big body. He in general is a good facilitator and needs to continue to prove that. The shooting has shot form has been changing over the last few years. But I'm done talking about Kate Cunningham. Let's get into TikTok time. Please. The crowd eaters are paying for it. Let's go.

As always, we're going to begin with the draft. This time we're going to do a draft that people have actually been asking this for quite a bit in the comments over the years over the years over the past year it's not for fucking four year veterans but um that's gonna be a draft of only players that came out of high school let's go let's be an interesting one let's go you guys know who's headlined by but once you get past the first few it's gonna be some really interesting strategy at play we're gonna be in hell you do have first pick you do have first pick you have finally you say finally it was exactly i know i know yeah just for that he didn't get the first

It feels so long. At the same time, at the same time, this is one of those drafts where I wish I was at three so I could double up early and get some real talent, but I'm not mad with the first pick. Get some real talent. All right, man. So, let's draft NBA lineups with only players who were drafted at a high school. Who we got, Donovan?

First pick. Give me LeBron James. Clear cut. Second pick. Give me Kobe Bryant. Okay. There we go. This is easiest day.

get that out the way. Now let's really draft. Third pick, go ahead and give me Kevin Garnett, and then I'm going to double up and get Tracy McGrady. Oh, okay. I'm glad you did that because I need an elite big. Give me Dwight Howard's second pick. No! And this is why

I wanted to double up. It's okay. Dwight Howard and Kobe? We've seen that before. It ended up well. That is true. Isaac may have fumbled already. I'm a sorry. A little better talent this time. Steve Nash is walking through those doors. Okay. So, Braun. Give me,

give me Amari Stademeyer. Okay. And, and give me Monta Ellis. Montailles. Fuck. You want to do that bad? Yes.

You weren't getting him. I was going to sing that Montaella's Post Malone song was a classic, bro. He used to bang that shit out with my skull candy headphones. He has a Post Malone song? Yes. I didn't even know that.

Please send that. I need that. You're a sick of. Yeah, bro. It was hard as fuck. Are you kidding me? All right. I think.

Okay, no, I'm going to go here. There's not a lot of point cards here. I'm surprised that we've picked them yet. There's one point guard. Give me Sean Livingston. You got to. Mid-range king, old man game. Listen, young Sean Livingston pre-injury.

I need that. Okay. That's fair. All right. So give me someone who's been who's had a better career than Sean Lewson. Give me a lemon pepaloo. I need that. All right. Sean Lynch is posting him up too small. You're getting destroyed by Montaella. Oh yeah. No, I need I know you're not. No, you're not. Let's relax. All right. And then at my four or five, this is flex. Give me Sean Kemp. Sean can't take a draft out of high school, did he? No, he didn't. He did not.

Your cap, so. No way. Lake's big. Are you serious? No. No, he went to college. What school did you go to? University?

I don't know. What school do you go to? If he didn't go to college. I would never play a game due to personal reasons. But he wasn't drafted a high school in a year, in a year out. Bro, so you're trying to, y'all starting to really haggle me like this? He wasn't drafted out of high school. What do you mean?

You know what? All right, you know, whatever, whatever. Whatever, whatever. Give me Rashard Lewis. Perfect modern day four. Oh, I was about to pick him next fuck. Yeah. I was hoping to get Sean Camp.

Y'all should have shut up. Damn. All right. At my four, give me Josh Smith. You bastard. You knew. Oh my God, bro. I hate you.

What, you're going to put, were you going to pick him at your three? Hey, if I already lost his drive. draft, why can't I go out with pride? All right, let's see. Okay, so we have, I'm going to have Stottomier at my four. Let me go ahead, get my five, the homie. Give me Jermaine O'Neill. I knew you were going to go to show old ass.

You knew he was going to end up on my team. So I have Leoneo at the five, Stottomite at the four. And, you know, give me a classic LeBron James teammate. Give me J.R. Smith. That was a big of that. That was nice. That was ruining my team. Yeah, that was nice.

I like that, Donovan. I like that. Oh, I was banking on having him. I'm fucked. Damn. Ah, who do I pick here now? Ooh. Okay.

I got an audible. I'm going to put... Oh, wait. Damn. Okay. I got an audible. Give me Deshawn Stevenson. Ooh.

LeBron Stopper, circa 2011. You need a good role player there on the wing. Yeah, he had a great Mohawk. I like that pick. Listen, Deshaun. Listen, him and Dwight Howard. at the center position

listen that's that's some defense right there yeah prime cobi I don't know might be cooking Sean Limitson 6-7s is all I'm saying

this is going to be so bleak for me but you know what give me the best nine finger dunker ever Gero Green

give me Gero Green though the highlights are going to be fantastic listen if we're playing in 2K with these lineups You're cooking You do have an all highlight team

That's what you're at You told me I don't think you're winning games But like but listen You're winning the Instagram comments I'm putting you on ball is life bro Are you kidding me I got That's how you constructed your team

And you succeed Good job You're not winning games And then I got Rashard Lewis And KD This is a nice team For what I was given For what you were given

Kevin Garnett and Tracy McGrady Like you're giving something really great Listen my role players are fucking Steve drop off Okay I got I'm up team I have Sean Livingston Kobe Bryant Deshawn Stevenson Josh Smith and Dwight Howard

Okay Space is disgusting Pretty good Okay I have I have Lebron James Monte Ellis J.R. Smith Amari Stademeyer and Jermaine O'Neill Okay

Not bad Not bad Not bad Yeah no Isaac your team spacing is fucking horrendous Everybody's spacing is fucking horrendous Mine is not You miss me with that boy

I got Lou I got Lou Will and McGradier You kidding me of Richard Lewis It's not horrendous And nothing else Lou Will Rashall Lewis and Gerald Green fucking yuck Are you kidding me You're talking about yuck

You got Jay smooth Next to Oh hell no Oh hell no We ain't do it Literally, he's only a defender. Who's locking up on your team? It's not debatable.

Listen, you have to outscore me. Good luck. You have Sean Lewinson. I can't score Jail Green. And you have Dwight Howard on your team. Spacing is a greets. You can't outscore. You can't outscore a knife finger man.

You're not scoring on either one of our teams. Your team isn't good at offense or defense. I don't know what to hear. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now this is all this is insane slander right now. This is literally slander. Who's passing? You have Trace McGrady and KG take.

turns playing exposing basketball oh hell not bring up the lou william highlights please don't please don't i'm not trying to see that uh that's funny okay so next thing we got i told you guys earlier in the episode we're gonna get back to jimmy butler's fucking hair this is what we do and we are here this is what we're right now we're gonna do we're gonna put every jimmy butler haircut into a tier list okay and i feel like i know where you guys are going to go and it's already making me upset he's had about six notable haircuts in his career and yeah we're going to put them all in a tier list it's going to be hilarious so let's put all the jimmy butler's haircuts into a tier list first off we have young jimmy

butler with the bus cut you got to just put this at a beat this is very like this is fine yeah it's very standard nothing nothing nothing crazy not outlandish he's he's he's had to find himself had to find his hair stuff this is a 21 year old man it is what it is yeah exactly clean shaven just got drafted you know what I'm saying like you're doing what you're supposed to do showing your professionalism I like it he looks like he looks like he's here for a job interview for sure yeah exactly bro solid be next up we have Jimmy Butler's infamous fake dreadlocks y'all know I hate these don't and I would love to put them in F but there's actually worse. So I actually, I've gotten used to him. Yeah, put them in D. Yep. Yep. They're okay.

See, the only reason why y'all say D is because he don't have no fucking facial hair. Like, that's the real darn part about it. Like, no facial hair action with the dreads out of nowhere, it's crazy as hell. Horrible combination. I can't be mad at that. Yeah. Terrible confidence. Tread extensions, faux dreads. Come on. That's, that's why. I can't, I cannot support that. next up we have his medium-sized afro from around 2014 or so this might have to be a a that his best that has to be an a in my opinion yeah I think we can go a it's one of his better hair cells

he's better than most of them and he's still like fairly clean shaven on this one like the facial hair isn't like robust so you know what yeah I think A's good very solid hair this is very much like sign of the times type of haircut Yeah, he looks like everything took recruit Yeah, exactly He was finding himself in his NBA career at this moment

On the verge of stardom and all that, bro This is great Jimmy Bullard Before the troll Next up, we have the 2020 bubble haircut Where he was just looking like a mess F, holy shit He looks deranged in this He was a madman

Listen, I might have to put this in S Because there was nothing else that he could have done We were in a pandemic He was at Disney World Hooping Like, listen, for no, no cut, no barber, that's actually not bad. It's kind of, kind of well kept. Put that in S for me. Well, okay.

I'm grading it on a curve, though, so perfectly. Like, this looks like Jimmy Butler how he played in the bubble, just like a madman. Exactly. Yeah, he dragged a raggedy-ass team to a top tier situation. I can meet you in the middle if you want to say S because he did put on a historic performance. I ain't go lie to you. You know what? We'll go A.

We'll go A. I like A. Okay. Put it in A. Yeah. Next up, we have last year when he had the braids with the headband. This is his best haircut that he's had in the league. If it kind of feels like him, kind of feels like Miami at the same time, I'm rocking with it.

Okay, I can rob with that. Yeah. Next up, we have this year's media days, emo cut Jimmy Butler. Hold on. He, bro, he has a higher voices in my head-ass haircut, bro. They counsel me. they understand like he is standing up for all the

emo boys in America shout out to you bro Randy Orrin theme song ass hair cut get the fuck out of here with the piercings and the oh you crazy hell oh my god he's going in

touching the goddamn door no don't you dare put that in S don't you dare put that in S this isn't even F this is a new category this is go ball

That's what this is This is low enough I'd rather you have no hair Then show up outside the house Looking like this This is terrible Listen You would understand

After the turmoil that he went They were dangling Damilu Across his face He was doing Dame Town Dame time over the summer You have to be sad He's expressing his emotion You're a hater of that

You're so misunderstood Exactly You just don't get it You'll never understand It's not meant for you to get you are hitting this voice right now

this was definitely you in 2014 hey man you went through this era oh my god that's fucking hilarious I plead the fifth uh

uh man yeah this is for sure though this is request to trade to hot topic this is hilarious

oh Is this with a sign of corn in the off season? I'm dead. It's going on in. All right. That's the end of that segment. We had to talk about it. You guys should have known as soon as we saw this haircut,

this was going to be a TU3 special. We're built for this. Of course. Next thing we're going to do, I want to launch a new segment that we're going to call NBA deal or no deal. Okay. How this is going to work is

this time we're going to do it around Lamello Ball. And how we're going to do it is every time we do this, it's going to be around one player. And I'm going to list you guys a series of trade packages, and you've got to tell me if you would take the deal or not. You got to say deal or no deal. Sound good? All right. I'm going to do it. So NBA deal or no deal, lamello ball edition.

Getting ready to slam that case down. Shout out Harry Mandoah. But go. So first off, deal or no deal, would you trade lamello ball for Zion Williamson? Ding, ding, ding. I'm taking the deal. Oh, whoa, wow, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, we're supposed to be coaching.

I'm taking it. I'm taking it. I'm taking it. Oh my God, bro. I have to. I have to. Is that you not even going to consult? This is my franchise.

This is for me in my team. Fuck this. I'm taking that deal. I understand. I understand all the health issues that come with Zion Williamson. But listen, you give me one year to figure out if he can be healthy. And then if not, next year I know I can flip him for something. else.

Oh, my God, bro. Your peak shark horned GM right here. This is a Charlie Harness move. And you're correct. You would do this, bro. Put Zion Williams along those juveniles. Oh, yeah, you cooking something. Ah, God.

But I would say no deal. I would say no deal because I feel like no mellow ball has rare air type of potential because of the range that he's shown that he has while also being an elite of the elite passer. And then being six, seven, he's never going to be like, and he's never going to be like, and he's never. We're going to be a defender. Yeah, rare for sure.

Where's that mean? Because of his range. Like the type of player, the type of player that he is, just not a lot of players in the NBA who has extensive range, like a Trey Young or obviously Damien Lurter or Steph Curry or whatever, and he has a tendency to like those deep type of shots. And that alone separate, that puts him in a different category offensively that we almost never see.

I mean, he likes to take him, but he can't make him like they can. You'll see the season. Nice. Yeah, I mean, I understand the hesitancy given Zion's, injury history, I'm willing to take that bet on Zion long term, so I would do it. Next up, lamello ball for J-dub and Josh Giddy.

Donovan, don't say none. I am declining this deal. If you offer me Josh Giddy and J-Land-J-dub, I love them. I love both of these players. But I ain't doing this, bro. Neither of those players will ever be the cornerstone of my franchise. Never the face.

But they're great. They're cooking. They're great, but I can't do this. I understand. I understand that they might never be the cornerstone of your franchise the way Lamello can. But you add one more piece to them to and you are cooking. That is true. Yes. Yes.

Those two are Brandon Miller? I don't know. I mean, that is true, but it's a lot easier to find those two pieces compared to finding the piece that Lamello ball is. Who do you think Lamello is? What do you think he is not? What is wrong with you?

I like, look, I like Lamello. I think he's going to be like a really, really good player, right? he's already made an all-star team but let's not act like he's you know one of like the 10 best players in the world and if you're getting jaded if you're getting jadip and josh giddy yeah yeah that makes that makes sense i ain't go like this especially for a guy who's been a just a little bit injury prone what happened a shame in this world bro lamella ball goes out for like a chunk of

the season and everybody just forgets that he's a potential superstar player bro god man he does This is his potential still there This one will be hard for me to do But if you think J-Dub can be a future all-star too I understand it But I would hold on to Lamello No, I might have to take it I'm not thinking no deal

Next one Lamello ball for R.J. Barrett Emmanuel quickly and three first round picks I'm not doing it Those three first round picks are kind of calling me That's a lot Especially if they're unprotected If the Knicks

If the Knicks offered this to the Hornets and they accepted it, I would be ecstatic because I knew that we just fleece the Hornets for everything that they had. Whoever gets R.J. Barrett in the deal, I hate that I have like that we have taken this turn, but whoever gets R.J. Barrett loses the deal. It's simple as that. No matter what. It don't matter.

Just RJ. No matter what. Because you're going to have to get rid of them in two years or whatever. So now it's just a manual quickly. and three first round picks for La Mello Ball. Are you doing that? No, I'm not. I'm not.

No dude for me. No chance in the hell I'm doing this. I agree with you. You're getting blocked if you call me with that BS. Tell the Baker, don't even call me. I know. Don't call me there. Last one.

Lamello Ball for Paul George. This is a good one. No deal. But I might have to say no deal because I have the next Paul George on my team. Why would I want to be redundant? Plus this man's like, 34 years old you know i'm saying so it's like i'm good on that give me lamello the young star yeah the age and is the age and the injury history make me want to say no so i'm yeah you

get a decade of lamello and probably three or four more good years of paul george yeah he wouldn't be a fucking fantastic vet in that locker room though no more goat life kai jones man who likes to do those creatures stuff i'm sure all the tomfrew would come to an end go he's going through something That's valuable. He's really fucking good. I mean, yeah, like if you're the sixers, if you're on the edge, if you were on the edge of a of a championship, maybe. But if you're still rebuilding trying to find your identity, now is not the time to go trade lamella ball for a Paul George. If I was a clippers, though, I would do this in a fucking heartbeat. Hell yeah, man. You don't have to pay Paul George anymore. Okay. Next thing we got, we're going to run back a classic old versus new. This one will be a. round NBA teams in the same franchise. So you guys will see him on the screen a team from a couple of decades ago

versus their version this year or in a relatively recent year. Okay. Very simple. So which NBA team is better, old or new? First off, we got the New York Knicks, 2013 Knicks or the 2023 Knicks. Don, I'm let you're cooking this one. The 2013 Knicks is an all-time team.

Okay. Oh, my God. Listen, this is one of, that's New York basketball right there, gross. This is one of the greatest teams to ever lose in the second round in NBA history. Okay, you don't understand. Hashtag Nix tape was going crazy on Twitter. Listen, this is, this is maybe not Pete Carmelo Anthony, but peak New York, Carmelo, Anthony. Amar Stademeyer's knees had it exploded at this point.

You were still good. You had a very young Amman Chumper. This was, this was, this was, Nick's tape was rolling. 23. It was fire. It was good. Julius Randall's still here. I don't love that. I think Jan Brunson would give them buckets. He probably could. Nobody else on this 2020 on this 23 team is giving them buckets. That's not happening. Listen, Josh Hart is striking fear into Mello's heart. Yeah, man. You told me, Quinn Grimes isn't, you told me Quinn Grimes is not going to lock up Mello.

Listen, I call Quinn Grimes the breakout player for the next this year. year, he would get 45 put on his head by 2013 Hummeliancy. Like, let's not play around. No, I'm kidding. We can go 2013. That's fine. Next up, we got 2009 Lakers versus 2020 Lakers.

Listen, this one is, this one is for nostalgic purposes. This one's tough. But if we're being real, 2020, Connie Clears. It's not tough. It's not tough at all. 2020 clears. I'm sorry, I love Pagosol, but he ain't doing nothing with peak AD, bro. Yeah, with 2020 AD when he had that jumper,

you can't guard that like bubble AD was a fucking monster and obviously shout out Kobe 2020 LeBron was still oh damn near peak LeBron I don't see any world where the 2009 Lakers can The only

Listen Let 2009 run our test Try to defend LeBron Those elbows are going Right That's going to be a fight Within two games Of the series started

And listen Say what you want Derek Fisher's rainbow shot was going in that year. So I don't know. Rondo might have a problem. No, Rago randomly turned into a retro player again for the last time in his career. He did. That is true. Somehow he recovered his career from the grave for

nine months to make a championship run. That's true. Instead of runner tests, instead of runners just trying to guard LeBron, he needs to take that energy to the easiest hurtable target, which is AD at that point in time. Give him a little in his back and on God he's out for the rest of the

year. Back spasms. It's over for him. That's funny. All right. Next one. The 1993 sons versus the 2023 sons. This is so unfair because we have not even seen these guys play. But this feels this is very.

Give me 2023. There's an abundance of buckets to be given out on Charles Barclay's baldhead. It's not. They're not going to know what to do as soon as KD, Bradley Beal, and Dev Booker. Three, four, five, six straight positions. I saw his. I saw his ass. Bro, they're not going to know what to do, bro.

Motion offense. I'm going 93. I think peak Berkeley with Kevin Johnson in his prime. They also have a competent defense, which the fucking 20 to 23 sons do not. I'm going to go with 93. It don't matter. They ain't get no buckets. He's getting 25 rebounds a night against this new version of the sons.

A, Yusuf Nurkich is literally bear hugging him. There is no rebounds for him tonight. Nurkich is not going to be able to play. He's getting ran off the floor. Fowling out immediately I'm not a believer that Bradley Bill is going to make this team just walk to the finals

Y'all keep on Dowling Devin Booker, man. No, it's not him. He's not the one I'm worried about it. He's not him I'm doubting. I have concerns. All right, next up, we have the 2013 Clippers

versus the 2023 Clippers. Guys, you know what I'm about. taking the 2013 clippers because at least we can see them play together this is so sad this isn't a team it's an idea it's a concept the construct the real 2023 clippers the friends made along the way exactly oh we gosh if also july three is dunk it all over every zubach has no chance to dunk to zubach has no choice and has no chance to jump and has no chance to jump with Blake Griffin or Deandra Jordan. Yeah, that is true.

The 2013 Clippers are legitimately a fantastic team. They just, notorious chokers. I still think they're a good enough team to get the credit over the Clippers who are honestly past their best version of this unit. Yeah, but at the same, I forget, DeAndja Jordan was a fucking all-star, dude.

A multiple-time All-Star, wasn't he? Yeah, that's fucking crazy. That's because there was no good centers in the NBA, so I'm sure. That tag is still aligned with them. bro, and I don't, hey, that Lobb City shit, I don't know what he's going to do. Matt Barnes in the corner and JJ Reddick, too, pre-podcast, he'll use different. And Jamal Crawford?

Oh my God, six of the end of the year. Peak CP3 was a problem. This is a great team. They were supposed to win, but they've been plagued because there's the Clippers. Played by utter failure at every turn. Nothing changed. All right, next up we got, let me scroll down. Next up we have the 2015 Warriors versus the 2022 Warriors.

2015 easily. Easily? Easily. Listen, I understand what 2022 did and everything that they were able to accomplish. 2015 was 67 and 50. They were the best team in the league. The defense was there. You had a younger step.

A healthy Clay Thompson. Stop it. Clay Thompson is the biggest difference here. Clay Thompson was nice. still had peak of his powers defensively, still had more offensive juice than he does now. And Draymond was fast could shoot a little bit. And you had

exactly. That's the biggest thing. And then they also had a lot of bench depth as well around that. Crazy. Andrew Barbosa. Yeah, bro, exactly. Like this was part of peak warriors, you know what I'm saying? Or pre-peak warriors. So I'm definitely in 2015. 2020 did have Wiggins and those

couple months of productive Jordan Poole. But I don't think that outweighs all the advantages of just youth that 2015 had draymond pool is getting posted up every play by sean livingston oh my gosh yeah that's at least 12 points who's guarding more space who's guarding more buckets tell me that right now when i think of maris spage i just think of that random ass bunion on his head bro oh my god i ain't guarding him bro like he's got a condition like leave him alone i will say 22 step clears 2015 step so that's the one advantage that knew which

team has that is true but 2015 clay clears 2022 clay so by a mile yeah we can go old last one the 2012 grizzlies versus the 2023 grizzlies oh man the 2012 gris were a vibe bro yeah we're a vibe but ah man marcosol was it i'm going to 22 honestly why listen they both have a DPOI I think John Morant is far better than Mike Conley and yeah Zeebo was a great player in his day doesn't move me the way John Morant's impact moves me I just don't think they have enough offense yeah I might have to lean 2023 because the offense is just not moving the needle as much and although the defense for sure for 2012 is better yeah no first of all Jern Jackson Jr. is getting two

rebounds a game against Markisaw and Zach Randolph He is getting, second of all, he's being putting a stray jacket. John Moran is going to have to beat Tony Allen off the dribble every single play and then go into the trees of Zach Randolph and Marketsal. That is true. He's not doing it.

He's not doing it. I'm just not moved. This team is to advance and they're not talented enough. That's the thing for me. Bro, they don't have, they don't have to be. The game's going to be 70 to 68. Like nobody, they don't have to score. I think you're underrate how much better the Grizzies are going to be

since they ship, Brooks to China and brought in Marcus Smart. That's such a meaningful upgrade. I did forget about that. I did forget about that. You're right. You're right. Yeah.

I just wait. Just wait. Just wait me. Just wait me. I forgot losing Dylan Brooks. Put them over the edge. They're a real championship contender now. The power of Dylan Brooks.

Edition by subtraction. Yeah. That's crazy. The power of Dylan Brooks, bro. His impact. Yeah, man. That's that segment. We can move on to the next thing.

next thing we're going to do I'm going to list some NBA players and you guys are going to have to tell me from 1 to 10 how much do you still believe in them so this should be an interesting one it's going to be guys that have either been disappointing if you've been busts have something

to prove for a variety of reasons okay okay so on a scale of 1 to 10 how much do you believe in these NBA players still Ben Simmons 3 damn we're right here Yeah, we're right here.

Yeah, I don't. No, the back issues, the back issues are concerning the fact that he still cannot shoot free throws, the fact that he still cannot shoot jumpers. He just hit 10, 3, 10 straight the other day. Are you kidding me? Thank God. Listen, I think that that was edited. I do not believe that. I don't believe that.

I think it's AI. I don't believe that actually happened. I'm a little five. I don't think it's likely that he gets back to his old self, but I'm holding out hope for at least one more year that another year removed from injury, he can have a chance to get at least somewhat back to all-star form. But if this year comes and he's still mediocre, it's over.

Yeah, after this year, there is no reason to go ahead and believe in him because he's shown no predicator to that. But I think three is a good rate because if he fails, how can I be disappointed? I have no expectations. So I'm leaving at that. Okay. DeAndre Aiton. I'm going to say a five.

I'll go about a six. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. I think that I think Aiton is now going into a situation where you have a lot of guards and it's just going to be him and Robert Williams like really like manning the front line manning the center position. He's going to get a lot of touches. He's going to have a lot of opportunities to run the offense through him. This is going to be kind of like a rebirth for him. So I think that like he's already physically talented. He can take that to to a different level in Portland. I'll go with seven. I think he's got a little bit underrated. People, he's playing for a coach that fucking hated his guts last year. And now he's going somewhere.

Like you said, he has a chance to rewrite himself and have a second chance with a new unit that doesn't have his chemistry issues. I think he'll be better than people think next year. Yeah. But at the same time, as these young guys go ahead and continue to develop, he's inevitably just going to be unhappy again and think he should be the face the number one two option and then he's going to get a kick to the curb again hopefully that don't happen no so i have to say five okay next up joel and bead i mean believe in him to do what not be a big hard to playoff i'm gonna say i'm gonna say a nah come on i think the expectations for him or low can if he can be

like 20% better can you shoot not like you're a point guard from the field no but it's like no y'all I'm past I'm going to until he can put together a healthy playoff run and beat the level of player he is in a regular season I'm not going to believe

he's into it because he's never once done it every single year there's been an issue either health related or choking related that stopped him from being that level of player you want him to be in the playoffs I'm not going to be fooled again having more faith in Ben Sims than Joel and beat is crazy No.

That's all paper, Isaac. Listen, different standards there. But listen, I have more faith that Ben Simmons will be better next year than I do that Joelle and B will be better next year. I'll say four. Different scales, obviously. Yeah, I want to say five simply because there, no one cares anymore about whatever Joel and B. does in the postseason, I feel like you and you know what he is pretty much.

One more bad house season, you're right. Nailing a coffin, it's open for him. But I go ahead and give him a five. coffin last year. Last year was a notorious choke job. What him and James Harden accomplished was a momentous feat of failure. What a line.

All right. Next up, Zion Williamson. I got to give this like a I want to say four. I want to say four. I'm going to say four. I'm going to say three. There's no real reason. Can you just stay on the court, bro? That's it. That's literally it. I'm still on the island. I still think he's going to be

good. I'll go six and a half. He just hasn't he just hasn't been healthy at all for like a reasonable stretch. It's been four seasons and he's had in his entire career. 75% of a one healthy season. Yeah, I just

don't, I just don't see it. I can't get there. Only reason I'm holding on to hope is the Joelle and B. Comp. He had three or four years in the beginning of his career, riddled by injuries. He got it together decent amount and he made MVP season type runs. I hold a little bit of faith that zion can do the same thing if he takes his health seriously so i'm also

give him a chance you're better me i'm a little bit healthy he's going to be all in b a like all he has to do is be healthy and he's already that good that's a little bit healthy but that's a huge if you have to play 65 games i don't think that zion will ever play 65 games in the season oh come on eventually i will i don't i have no reason to believe that he will play 65 games in that's crazy i mean you're not wrong for that you have he he did provide you no No proof I know There's no proof Yeah

Exactly bro Donne Williamson I challenge you to play 65 games This season I challenge you To fuck the bucket eyes All right next up

Jordan pool Oh 10 Oh my God He's gonna do Exactly what I expected to do Go ahead and collect his buckets The baddies and go home

bro and make and make everyone on infanity sports happy as hell. Yeah, I'll go eight. I think he's going to be a lot better than he was last year. I think that he'll be on a team that is tailor made to let him cook and his reputation will recover amazingly. Yeah. I'm, I'm going to go six. I think that this can go.

Oh, my God. Hit me out. Hit me out. Hit me out. Hit me out. I think that this can go either way. And I think that Jordan Poole can very clearly. and it sounds like a lot of people already expected,

Jordan Poole can be a really good player on a very bad team and get a lot of just like, hey, hey, you're averaging 25 because you're the only one here. He could be that or he can take another leap, but, like, yes, he's going to have the opportunities to cook, but he's also been very erratic throughout his career. So there is a possibility that he's just an inefficient chucker whenever he gets to Washington and they let him take 25 shots tonight.

Yeah. Listen, I didn't say they'd be a good team. I didn't say they were Taylor made to win games. I just said he'll do good I just said he'll do good It can go either way But I'll put the six Just because he is talented

And I'll give him some props for that Okay Next up James Harden Oh my god zero He deserves nothing bro Listen man I was a James Hardin Stan

For years The Rock is for my second favorite team I wrote for him to death Don't with that shit I'm not gonna leave him ever again He will not break her heart over time I'm over it scar child I tried to tell you

Years ago It was three Playoff meltdowns ago I gave up hope Now I'm just sad every April Yeah no It's definitely I'm not sad

And I'm not sad I'm not disappointed I'm not even surprised Because I expect him To under deliver In the playoffs at this point It just is what it is You've been used

And abused and confused For years And look at you now, Donovan Look at you know You're not letting Anybody trick off you anymore I respect you Never

James Hardin Yeah I give it a zero But anybody tricking on me Okay Next up Carl Anthony Towns Once again To do what

Like To be healthy To be healthy And maintain Whatever status And whatever positive In the NBA To be a star level

player worth building around Oh, that's a zero. That's a status. That's a zero. I think that is like just, that's just unreasonable to ask of him. Now, can he be, can he contribute to winning basketball and be the third option on a team? Yeah, he definitely has roles to where he can like be a viable piece to a very good team. I will never build my team around Kar and the Town.

So that's just a zero. But he has other role that you can fill, though. Going from GM saying that I'd rather have Karanthi Town. Anthony Towns back in 2015 or 2016 over LeBron and Katie to now can he be the third option on a very good team? That's a drop off from hell.

Holy shit. I still think that if you put him with the right teams around him, put him next to a Ford like a Ramon Green that can be that mobile defender at the rim. He can be good and probably be a second option. But yeah, you're not going to win anything with him as your number one player. Those days are done. How many years has he been in the league? Like seven.

2017. Can we figure out real quick? Hey, you got drafted in 2015, so it was supposed to be, yeah, he's going, he's playing eight years. He's going into year nine. We've had nearly a decade of Carl Anthony Towns. And we're still trying to say, oh, well, this happens. If this happens, he is who he is. And that's okay. Listen, Carl Anthony Towns, just shine in your role.

Do what you have to do, right? But it's just not, I'm just not going to win the championship with him as my best player. Okay. Second, maybe second player is a stretch. We'll see. Maybe Anthony Edwards would be the alpha he needs. Now would go bare. They messed that whole situation up.

What a travesty, man. If they just had Jaden McGowan was at the four, it would be so much better. Finesse of the, bro, finesse of the century. Oh my gosh. All right, man. That's that segment. We got one more thing before we get out of here. This one's going to be an open-ended question I want to ask you guys.

If, okay, so I'll just say the hook and we'll get straight into it. If you were Adam Silver for a day, what would you change about the NBA? I'm delineing the Los Angeles Clippers from the entire NBA erasing their history. They don't belong. Find somewhere else.

Go to Taiwan. Somewhere. Philippines. Somewhere. Not here. You don't belong here. Pack your bags. Leave it.

Adios. Bon voyage. That's good. That's great. Shout into the Clippers slander. Listen, if I was Adam Silver, basketball-wise, I'm taking out

the block charge. I'm taking out the charge. The charge is not a basketball play and it's a weak play in that. If you are just running to a spot hoping to get tackled that is not basketball. Put your hands up, jump, play defense. You got people who are 6, 10, 7 feet

tall running trying to take a charge. If you don't jump and try to get a block we don't need that in our game. Stop that, get that out. I got three things. Yeah. I would rid of restricted free agency. I think it's criminal. I think it's bad for the players. I hate it. Two, I would make NBA City jerseys be once every three years instead of every year

because the fact that we have 30 new jersees every year has gotten to a point where it's impossible to have 30 good ideas every year. So many of them are garbage. It's not good for the league anyway. You got to go at least five. Not even three, at least five. Yeah. It's a cool idea, but the volume and now, it's just too much. Especially when there's good ones that are just forgotten in history after one year, it serves no one. Tried to team. I can agree with that. And finally, I think the in-season tournament winner

should get the 15th pick in the draft right after the lottery. That's a great idea. That's insane. A lot of teams will try to win. A lot of teams will fight for that because that's an asset that players, yeah, that's an asset that players

would actually want to fight for a little bit. Go crazy for that 50th pick so he could trade it for his next star. Maybe if they had that, bro, oh my goodness. If he had that, you can easily move some things. You can easily lose some things. That's a brilliant idea. Now listen, but counterpoint, but counterpoint, if I'm Marjan Bochamp,

why am I trying to play so that they can just draft my replacement next year with the 15th overall pick? What is he going to do, fucking miss shots on purpose and get benched? Go for it. You're Marzahn. You have no room for error. Come on now. You're Marjan. Let's be real.

The easiest way to guarantee you get your replacement drafted is to miss shots on purpose. Yeah. They're going to draft the second runner to replace this stupid. So that's a, listen, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, time for low management. Yeah, man, that's great. That's the episode. If you're still here, follow us on Twitter.

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