The Deep 3 Podcast - We Created NBA Mt. Rushmores | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are going to see a series of NBA categories, and we have to make the Mount Rushmore of that category. Beesoles had, I think, eight of them for us. We've got to decide, of all the players across NBA history, across these eras that we're talking about, who deserves me on Mount Rushmore for their accomplishments, for what they did in that era, for how good they were, whatever might mean. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:17 First category, 2,000 stars. Okay, four players who define the 2000s. A lot of superstars. Kobe is won. LeBroad. Hey, Kobe, five championships in the decade. Got to be on there. Yeah, Kobe's there.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Has to be there. Does that mean Shaq has to be there too? Four championships in a decade. At his peak, one of the greatest players of all time in this decade. Okay. We're firing this off kind of fast. He's going to fill up quick. Because Tim Duncan's right there too.
Starting point is 00:00:40 That means Duncan has to be there too. That's a Mount Rushmore. They both dominated the 2000. Yeah, those two teams. Right, here's the fucking 14 rings between. And now, now at 14. At four, honestly, is Steve Nash in there. Two MVPs.
Starting point is 00:00:55 LeBron's multiple MVP's too in this decade. Yes, at the very end. Yeah. at the tail end of the decade made of finals made of finals it was the best player on paper like you were talking about
Starting point is 00:01:07 just peaks 2009 LeBron's best player we could pick here but Kevin Garnett doesn't ring this decade and a lot of good years Dirk has a finals appearance
Starting point is 00:01:16 has some MVPs If 2011 was in this decade he could have gone Dirk but that happened the next decade sadly it's no Dirk so it's either KG has the MVP and he has the ring
Starting point is 00:01:26 in O, who else has that combination of both those things there's really nobody because D-Wade missed out on the MVP But MVP caliber years I think we could still consider D-Wade The 2006 championship rings So we have D-Wade
Starting point is 00:01:40 We have Braun, we have KG I think those three should be fighting for the last spot here Now my question to you is If you pulled a mirror And you looked at yourself You examined every part of your face Looking into both eyes Look into your nose
Starting point is 00:01:52 Looking into all your pores Looked into all your hairs on your head Your eyebrows And you said I'm gonna leave LeBron James off this list would you go to sleep well tonight? I'd sleep perfectly fine. No, you would not.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I'd sleep perfect. I slept great last night, too. He said, I hate on LeBron yesterday, too. I said, I hate on LeBron every day. I sleep like a baby. You put LeBron here for sure. Yeah, I don't have insomnia. I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:02:16 But we can take Brom. Who would you take? KG or D. Wade, then? I think I would take KG or D. Wade. Oh, yeah, who's first cut? KG or D. Wade? I think. Or Steve Nash?
Starting point is 00:02:26 I think Wade is first cut. not including Steve Nash. I think Wade is first cut just because KG did get the MVP. So I would give him that knot. Okay. What if that means KG would be first cut then? No, I'm giving KG the nut.
Starting point is 00:02:42 On yeah. Oh, you're saying since we're taking Yeah, number five is okay, okay, got you. So KG would be the fifth option. Yeah, for sure. That makes sense. Okay. That's a pretty easy one to do.
Starting point is 00:02:51 There's three players I want on the championships and then the greatest player of all time, greatest peak of all time. Makes sense. DeWay was on the Redeem team too, though. Does that matter? I think it does matter. Were you going to kick off LeBron?
Starting point is 00:03:02 No. No, I mean they were both on the Reding Team for the first cut. Yeah, I'm not sure. Gotcha, gotcha, got you. I mean, the MVP I wasn't though. You're right. Next category. 2010 stars.
Starting point is 00:03:12 LeBron. Is this easier than 2000s? Yes, LeBron and Curry. LeBron and Curry. LeBron and Curry are hands down on there. KD for sure. I think KD got to be on there. Katie is a must.
Starting point is 00:03:24 A couple championships. What if I want to hate? Then what? And say, what? James Harden. I can't even say it with a straight face. I can't even lie. I can't say it with a straight face. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I can't even slander. Listen, James can be four. He can, he can be four, but he's not over he's not overcame. So James Hardy obviously has one of the high speaks MVP, multiple runner ups and MVP's. Yeah. Kauai has two rings. Yeah, I know. Kauai's two finals MVP. He's not
Starting point is 00:03:54 the, he's not the star though that James was. For the latter half he was second MVP in 2016 won the championship in 2019 we're calling him best player in the world in the decade James Hardin was six man MVP had made a made a finals with
Starting point is 00:04:09 with OKC at this point like the time about playoffs but also revolutionized the game more so than Kauai did throwing another name in there Russell Westbrook no salute to Rush smooth number six yeah there's different caliber I do think
Starting point is 00:04:25 I think Hardin should be above above Kauai. In terms of defining the decade, he should be up there. Throwing another name, Chris Ball? No, I'm sorry, man. I'm glad you said his name. We don't got to say it again.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yes. Damn. But I appreciate you saying his name. I like the guy a lot. Yeah. This is a tough debate. Define the decade of individual player is a valid category
Starting point is 00:04:44 Carter Harden arguments. I think two championships defines the NBA defines the decade. Does. I think being the greatest perimeter defender we've seen in modern NBA history
Starting point is 00:04:53 and then transitioning to being a superstar and carrying a team has never been in the finals, never wanted a championship before, giving them that ring, that defines a decade. He had multiple,
Starting point is 00:05:02 yeah, multiple seasons that were just missed and gone. True. I think he, he wasn't, he wasn't even Kauai. He had 2018. I think it's only one in this decade.
Starting point is 00:05:12 That he missed? Yeah, right? No, he missed, he missed a couple. Which one do you miss? He missed, so you missed the, missed the one.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'm, I'm lumping this in in terms of, like, he missed the season, then he had a couple where he, like, wasn't Kauai yet, where he was just,
Starting point is 00:05:24 he just missed that one. I'm saying where he wasn't Kauai. Like he had... I know what you're saying, but I think in 2010, there really wasn't that much... That's the 20s conversation. When did he come into the league, though?
Starting point is 00:05:34 He came in in 2014, right? He came in 2011. 2011. Damn, he's old. He had a few years ago. Then in 14, he was ready to make the lead one final.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So it's three years that are basically a wash. Because he's not really Kauai. Sure, but James Hardin wasn't James Hardin until 14, 15. He's still on the map, though. He's still getting like the... Kauai got two DPO-O-Ys. I completely forget about it.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Two DPO-wise. Oh, sorry, not two DPA-O-WIs. He was on Divens to play the year for a scene. And then he also has one DPA-A. Yeah. I was scouting run with you. I wasn't believe you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I didn't think about it all. I just repeated you. Misinformation. Oh, hell yeah. Two DPOIs. That is how it starts. I think Hardin. I think he should be there.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Mo, you're the deciding factor. I lie. He has two DPOIs. It's quai. Okay. Yeah. The whole league plays like, tries to play like Hardin. And none of him win championships.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah. You don't like to impact the Hardin. Why are you, like, you don't like it? I don't like it, but it happened. So do Kauai. Yeah, I'm going with Kauai. That's what we're going with. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I know it's debatable. I love Hardin. I know it's debatable. But for Mount Rushmore, I feel like you have to go accomplishments above all, right? Yeah. And the caliber of player isn't that far off. Hardin was number two in MVP in 2016,
Starting point is 00:06:52 right behind Curry. And then you also had to know another year right after that where he finished top three. Yeah, 192. And 17 was when Kauai was second MVP behind Russ. But it doesn't matter. Like, right? Even before, like in the 2000s, we were giving KG a nod because he had actually
Starting point is 00:07:05 like did the thing and one MVP and we gave him that nod. The fact that Hardin actually won that, I feel like that trumps the like one MVP. I would rather have like one MVP over two DPOIs. You'd rather have one MVP over two rings and two finals MVP's? I'm saying in terms of, but that's a compliment. I'm saying just MVP to two DPOY and the fact that. you actually were the best player in the league at a time. I understand what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:07:28 but you're using Hardin's most popular accomplishment against Kauai's second best accomplishment. The best accomplishment is he took the Raptors to the finals and won finals MVP and was the best player in the world. That's what you compare the MVP to, and I'd rather have Kauai's. So would you. In that instance,
Starting point is 00:07:43 I think, though, again, I think the fact that everybody takes stepbacks all the time, like I do do. I think that the fact that we have some, some validating in the league's DNA right now, I think that that's Hardin. I think in like a influential sense or whatever, Hardin definitely has that. And that's, I think that should be a part of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:08:01 But Kauai just has too much in his trophy case to point towards. And like too many, like the most respectable things in the league, do he did that three times. Like it's, it's not a conversation or not a deep conversation for me. Wow. It's a combo for me. But I do not go into the day. Winning rings is the most important thing.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And if everybody's so close in terms of caliber player, this guy has done it twice, which let me say done it once to not put too much gas on 2014, which sometimes people will do. Yeah. 2019 happened. Yeah. Wow. That's easily one of the more impressive rings, too.
Starting point is 00:08:29 All right. Next. Is it? 20-20 stars. Six years in, who defines his decade so far? Yokic. Multiple MVP's. A ring.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Shea. Multiple MVP's, a ring. I mean, those are five of the MVPs already. Yep. And those are the only two guys I can say that multiple MVP's in a ring. Yonis doesn't have MEPs in his decade, but he has a ring. And he's still been a top-tree player for. for most a decade besides the injuries.
Starting point is 00:08:55 He doesn't have MVP in this decade? Nope, it was 19 and 20. Oh, oh. I mean, yeah, 19 and 20. Which I guess people, it's always weird people count 20 as being like the end of the last decade of the beginning of this one. But let's count 20 as this decade just for clarity's sake. That's always a semantic argument.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So Janus has one MVP, 2020 and 2021 championship. That means it hasn't been in the playoffs. Yeah, a lot of years in the last couple years. But he probably still deserves it, right? Yeah, he's been a top three player consistently. You can have conversations about this year, which is fair. But he's been a top three player, peak of his power still this year. And bro, looking at his basketball records and the scene consists 20, like 30, 30, 20, 28, 29 points per game.
Starting point is 00:09:35 60% shooting from the field. Like, this is most, this was his most efficient year also, too, which is like no one cares about because he didn't play in all that drama. But I think he belongs with it just from a sheer talent aspect of things. And yeah, he got to ring to. Is, okay, so the four players now I'm thinking, I'm thinking, Luca is in consideration. I'm thinking Embed is in the conversation.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I think Tatum potentially is in the conversation. He has a ring, two finals appearances. He's won every single year of this decade. I think those three are in the conversation. I think Wembe's in the conversation. Already?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Come on now. See, we're recording this on May 21st. If you watch this on August 1st and Wembe has a ring in a finals of a P, which is very popular, very possible, maybe Winby would get here. We're not time travelers, so we can't put Wembe yet, but we're two months away from putting Wembe on this list. He's on the conversation.
Starting point is 00:10:31 He's on the cusp. I think we have to go Janus, and from what you laid out, I kind of think Tatum has a better argument than Embed in Luka. Yeah, I think Tatum is a better argument, sure, than the beating Luca. Like when you're just the guy that if you're on this team, you're going to win games, and you've done nothing but produce, multiple first team, all
Starting point is 00:10:47 NBA seasons, two finals appearances to Luka's one, you got the ring for one of them? the convoy would just be do you think lucca's so much better than him that he has to get there regardless because luca also made a finals he made a finals you're right but lucca just doesn't have much to show for outside of like beard grown weight gain weight loss now he's a late game well is that because of him because he's not a Celtic because he's meaningfully better than tatum he is but when it comes to like talking about how his career has went and how things are just like went it feels like things that went the wrong way more than has gone the right way as well also
Starting point is 00:11:24 fair not i did beat you in the finals like fair i do have the head-to-head matches like i will forever know in my life that tatum's never been better than a day in his life never a day there's been a day there's been a day not really there's been one day game six game six tatem on the road man as an individual player is not better So that makes me feel like I should want to I do want to put Luke up there because it's like what do we do with this one Luke is so much better to a point where it's There's an argument there's the gap in skills enough to make up for the gap in accomplishments when we consider the team environments they're in This is a real 50-50 debate to me
Starting point is 00:12:05 Does the is the run to the finals enough? Lokey is a great run and especially since Tatum doesn't have an MVP Is that okay can curry into these conversations? But look does an MVP either can curry into the conversation? Yeah. Unfortunately. That's a champion too.
Starting point is 00:12:22 He does. He does a lot of waste of years. A lot of missing the playoffs. Yeah, you can't be doing that. And missing a year for injury. So Luca has a conference finals run and a playoff and a finals run and he was a demon in all those.
Starting point is 00:12:35 That matters. Consistently, playoff performances, Luca has been much better. Tatum has a ring and another finals appearance. No finals MVP. Give it to Luca.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Ooh. You got there for what? Yeah, man. You weren't the best fire on your team. when you want a championship. Give it to Luca. What do you want to do? Donovan,
Starting point is 00:12:53 final call, Luca or Tatum. Gun to your head, Luca or Tatum. One family is screaming at you either way. Whose side are you taking? I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:12:59 Tatum. Yeah. You put a Luca? We're praying Luca. Oh, Luca's on our Mount Rushmore. Ah! Damn it!
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah. Who's got there, y'all? It's fine, because this is a whole debate that won't matter in two months and Wemby takes a spot. That's also fair. Just waiting.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I really want to put Wendy. We're just talking, we're just talking, this is the Wemby spots. AJ? No, let me All right
Starting point is 00:13:22 Most hated Rudy Gobert Most hate it all time All time All time I rush for hated players Gobert Nah come on
Starting point is 00:13:29 All time He may be four Generations Let's think carefully First Generations That people People hate
Starting point is 00:13:34 Goberra Fair Gobert's on the list But let's think Care There's some layoffs Lebron's on here Yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:13:40 Lebron Do you want to put Nasty Man out here Because notice The general public Doesn't hate them Like they should
Starting point is 00:13:45 Because they don't know They don't know The internet knows but he's not he's not on the list he's not on the list he's not on top of the list he's not he's not top four he should be though for sure yeah but lebron's definitely on here yeah lebron could put him at number one yeah lebron
Starting point is 00:13:57 lebrons clearly him the foremost hated players of all time jordan is not Kobe is not shack is not lebron probably Kobe might people are starting to yeah people are starting to like criticize they're not starting to hate
Starting point is 00:14:11 peak of his powers he wasn't madated though who Kobe peak of his powers sure but top four all the time like he was hated but like Mount Rushmore yeah maybe he's not Mount Rushmore I think he does get more love than eight but we can say he was hated it's like a part of like
Starting point is 00:14:27 6040 battle but yeah but not Mount Rushmore level eight yeah I don't know if any of the star is on here like all time players I'm not going to lie Russell Westbrook nah I see what you're coach too many old players respect him I see what you're cooking I think he's on like
Starting point is 00:14:43 he's like now arc but All time peak of his powers Even when he was on the Lakers Yeah, I don't think But to be about Rushmore LeBron's on there because the hate was so crazy Because he's so popular
Starting point is 00:14:56 There's three other players that are just straight up hated Without the lover Russ though We can get to some guys that people just despise Without the upside of the fans Yeah, because with Russ, it's a lot of like You get the criticism but also at the same time Everyone's like But he plays harder than anybody on the floor
Starting point is 00:15:11 Like you have to respect that part So I don't think he's top four You think KD does there a spot here? if we're going to be real modern oriented maybe we're going to the warriors people don't like them now they burn your stuff Katie's up there okay so are we going to do
Starting point is 00:15:27 like you said Gobert earlier are we can do some guys in the bad boy pistons are we going to do Rodman are we going to do what's a white center's name again Lambere or we do Lambere Bill Lambier is super fucking hated he is I feel like we can
Starting point is 00:15:40 skew a little bit modern on this one because even yeah even all time, like, is what hated like that? It's tough because the internet amplifies things so much. So the guys that are hated now feel super hated. Because in the 80s, there wasn't Twitter trolls all over the place screaming Bill Lambears should die. But if there was, they would be saying that.
Starting point is 00:15:59 So I think we go to Lambert, honestly. Yeah, that's fair. Land beer was not, he wasn't selling parlays. Yeah, exactly. But I think Kevin Durant could be on there potentially if you want to do another star. For sure. I think the type of backlash that he got, I remember literally it was like, I think it was July 6th, 2020. It feels like a
Starting point is 00:16:15 4th of July. Yeah, 4th July, 20, I say 2020, 2016. It feels like a national tragedy, bro. I remember like Stephen A. Smith was on ESVN talking about something.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I had to leave my vacation. That's the weakest super move my superstar in NBA history. Yeah, bro, I think that. I think belongs there for sure. He used to leave his vacation all the time. He loves these vacations. He's dramatic.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yeah. Y'all remember where y'all were? Yeah, I do. When the KD thing was announced? Yeah. My dad was teaching me out of drive. was in the school parking lot Dad
Starting point is 00:16:47 Mind you we were hoping Katie went to the Celtics Dad dad he went to the Warriors What Tough Yeah You're what 14 years old Or 15 16
Starting point is 00:16:57 You can't be 16 You said you were younger then I'm a 2000s baby It was 2016 I forgot yeah You know You know You're mostly
Starting point is 00:17:06 You're like yeah okay Fair You can't be 16 Yeah I was like Yeah I was like Okay, so Lambert, Katie, LeBron I second guessing by me. Do you want to go with another
Starting point is 00:17:19 I did? Let's go. Do you want to go with another true villain or another hated star? We can go with the true villain. Yo, it's Pat Bav on this list? Yo, is Dreymar green on this list? Yo.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Dremont. People are really turned on Dreemann. He's up there. I'm not going to like. like Pat Bev. Because he's an NBA player that speaks on the game. But whenever he talks, all the NBA legends, not you, though. Not you, Pat Bev.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I've never seen anybody be a fan of Pat Bev, too. I think you just have straight haters. He inspires people. He makes people talk about him just negatively. But Draymond and the screen stuff. It's probably Draymond. He has like a 10-minute low-light reel. But is, like, phone-old.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Nah, shit. Maybe. All the old-school players. People don't like Jamal though. It's either him or Gobert. Who's winning? People really didn't like Robin at the time before he went to the Bulls too.
Starting point is 00:18:21 He was about to play himself out of the league. Yeah. Even afterwards. People really don't like Rodman. He went to North Korea because they didn't like him in the U.S. They got it out. You don't just go to North Korea.
Starting point is 00:18:37 That's kind of crazy. You don't just do that type of thing. I feel like people were like, oh, well, that's weird. But they wouldn't hate him. That's like interesting Yeah We're a relationship
Starting point is 00:18:48 Like you and the dictator Of North Korea But you know what? We're gonna let you rock Because you're Dennis Robin You do those type of things It's either Draymond or go bear It feels so like we're just doing art I know
Starting point is 00:19:03 They're what it is That is what we're doing All right Ritty-Go bear it is Generations people don't like Ready Go Bear All right We're going
Starting point is 00:19:11 I wish I could time travel To feel the hate of 1980 but I can't Gohbert with this one Next Most loved Other side Well Michael Jordan
Starting point is 00:19:22 They were calling him God They were fainting They were for 40 years People waited in line for his shoes Multiple generations of families Waiting in line for his shoes It is Michael Jordan number one Okay
Starting point is 00:19:33 For sure I wait in line for shoes I waited in line for shoes I woke up at 4 a.m. to go get some shoes Yeah really I never did that shit Yeah I think the LeBron Glaze is great enough for him to also be on this list? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Steph Curry is probably on this list for sure, right? Most love? People love the fuck at his Steph Curry. I think almost before Steph, I would say Kyrie or something like that. Hell not. Kyrie, post-2018? Kobe has to be on this list before Kari. Yeah, Kyrie did way too much.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And before-and-before-Step. The people that love Kyrie, so love Kyrie. Kyrie did way too much to make himself controversial. You took what Kyrie top for? I agree. Way too much. I would go Kobe Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:16 Put Kobe on there Magic feels very loved all time Magic can be considered I do think Curry though For this generation Like anybody below the age of 20 Adores Curry And he doesn't really have haters like that
Starting point is 00:20:26 He doesn't really have haters like that He means he was so good And he was doubted and stuff But like it's not the same As like a LeBron Bro back when I was 20 Like back when I was 16 15 years old I was banging out of fuck Steph Curry remix
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah because he's been LeBron You're LeBron's dad Well let's see more over that Currie's pretty Kind of just universally loved. They just unlocked the crazy movie. What do you remember? I mean, he would just have a bad game
Starting point is 00:20:50 and I would just go on Twitter and it would be like, no! Turn it off! Yeah, the way Curry has a stranglehold on the generation of kids is very Jordan-esque. Yeah. Okay. Y'all want to put Curry on there?
Starting point is 00:21:04 You put Curry. Okay. Last spot. Magic. Bill Russell? Who hates Bill Russell? Bill Russell? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 They retired his own numbers. You're cheating. He's not cheating. He's an activist. Of course you know he booed Russell. He was out here, Martin. Sure. What's there to hate?
Starting point is 00:21:20 Oh, you know what? Who am I to say, Bull Russell? Yeah. I dare you. I guess we got to, boom. Mo, how dare you? Twist my arm now. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:21:30 What about for the say? I don't know. I can't put the name on here. We should. You can't, but like, that means we also have to. So there you go. Boer Russell number four. Walking away with something.
Starting point is 00:21:42 You're walking away with something. You're fighting dirty. How's he fighting dirty? Yeah. Explain that one. When you put someone... Hey, man. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:59 What's he doing? When you put someone who's not alive? I cannot say, man, oh, no. He said, you pulled the race card and the dead card? Yeah. What am I going to say?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Bro, they retired his fucking number from the NBA. Yeah. I can't argue for LeBron James now. I got to say bet. Hell yeah. Next. Draft bust. It's getting negative.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Oh. The greatest of all time is tough because there's a lot of them. I feel like, Kwame is like the poster boy. For sure. He deserves to be a long career. A lot of these guys didn't have long careers. Like, Anthony,
Starting point is 00:22:33 bet it didn't have a long career. You can still be in the league and still be a bust. But there's at least four who did not have long careers and they were bust. Bennett is up there Anthony Bennett is clearly One Yeah for sure He's one
Starting point is 00:22:45 Like he has to be the first spot Yeah Yeah and it bust is the right word Because like It can't be bad picks You know Because like Bagley shouldn't have been The pickover Luka
Starting point is 00:22:53 Bowie shouldn't have been The pickover Jordan But they're not bus like that Mm-hmm What did you giggling at? Nothing Not to that Don't worry about it
Starting point is 00:23:02 So Want me say that again? No no no No He's so Bust Okay I know you like to
Starting point is 00:23:09 Don't put that on me You're the one that giggled. Everyone heard in the mic. You put it on you. Anthony Bennett. Okay, keep going. Let's keep potty. Let's keep potty.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Dude, there's got to be all number one of all picks. I think it's, they don't have to be now. Oh, then Darko's up here. Yeah, Darko's up here. Darko's up there. Darko wasn't good, didn't do much, and went above Hall of Famers. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:33 How do we feel about Markell Falls? I don't think Mount Rushmore. I mean, unfortunate, but I don't think Mount Rushmore. Yeah. Okay. I'd put James Wiseman before I put Marco Fultz. Just because
Starting point is 00:23:46 Bust also implies expectations and it's not his fault. Fultz had a lot of expectations. Of course. That's the thing. That's where that's like kind of losing argument right there. They would say it's crazy thing. No, it's not a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I'm not losing argument at all because expectations you're supposed to be the next guy to help a dynasty continue to have a top foremost love player of all time continue to his run. Unfair expectations are put on him for needing to be the guy
Starting point is 00:24:06 to elevate to the next era. Didn't do it. I mean, is it unfair? the number two overall pick. I mean, sure, sure, but he had to play like the number zero pick. I had to be like a ball of number one. He had to be God.
Starting point is 00:24:17 There's an easy modern day pick for this one. Who we missing? Big Zach. Oh, is he in the clock? Hey, man. The whole draft class stinks, man. Big Zach might get there eventually.
Starting point is 00:24:28 He might prove to be Anthony Bennett. We got to give him like 18 more months. Yeah, like a year or two. He's not Anthony Bennett. I just, he's a productive player. He got picked. Look at his stats. Where do you mean?
Starting point is 00:24:39 He was like eight and nine points. And it's like a decently efficient. He was benched after three minutes in the playoffs. We're in here too. We have a nitwit of a coach. You're right. Those things are true. Your coach is not shittier than Zach and Richie Shea is unproductive.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Put Big Zach on the list. Now, you just do that now just to do it. You don't even believe in that. And that's your cross to bear and Reese Tushche is crossed the bear. He's not my dog. He can look at you and say it's your fault. He's not my life. He's the best player here.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Okay. Is he? Yes, he is. Then Anthony Bennett? He's not Darko. He's not Darko. He's not Adam Morrison. Bro.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Darko put him in a blender. Darko would. Also, for some reason, also just in my mind, Josh Jackson is a massive draft. Do you always mention it? I used to be a big guy together. The way they were talking about. The Kauai Combs, I remember.
Starting point is 00:25:32 The way they were talking about Josh Jackson. Yeah. They was like, he's the safest pick. He's like, I can't believe he's going at four. This is a multiple time. All-Star, all-N-Bi-A. player he's going to change the league that or not did nothing like I I look at him and I'm so disgusted yeah thank God I wasn't the salesis GM because I was a Josh Jackson over Tatum guy
Starting point is 00:25:51 is it fair to put break old in here or no loki is it's not really his fault because of injuries but he was supposed to be a superstar you're supposed to be the one I don't know if it's fair though I feel like it I I do feel like Kwame should be up here just because Kwame's in the conversation has seemed to beat now I think quote put the beat up there but the be i think there's people at a time that probably would have told you what was he picked that number two but there are some people that probably would have told you like it's a bad pick that even then i think we got to pick somebody who was like viewed as can't miss
Starting point is 00:26:21 which that lends to quame more than that i think what about aitman or zion shit or that too too much that was all that's too much yeah yeah greg oden is a what if though so do you want to put a what if on this list or bust is no i need to know you're bad Hey Kwame Brown welcome to our list Welcome to my Rushmore And what we gotta do Kwame has the cultural impact
Starting point is 00:26:44 Of being a bust Where everybody talks about here It references him And it pisses him off So like he embodies bust It's his reputation Definitely Kwame There's some deep cuts on here
Starting point is 00:26:52 Michael Oloa Candy Oh Allo Olua Candy is out there Listen Kama's gonna see this We're gonna get 15 hot minutes On Instagram live He'd just firing off In his truck too
Starting point is 00:27:05 After work he's like man These TDDDD boy Bits boys are bitches, man. They're no nothing. I'm crying laughing. I'm like, hell yeah, keep going. That would be out to make my fucking day. I would love for that to happen to us.
Starting point is 00:27:22 That would be so funny. He calls all types of bitches and stuff. I would love for a player. Be like, you can't even hoop, you stupid motherfucker. That would make my year. I would be crying on camera for 30 minutes straight. That would be so funny. Should we farm it?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Not let me. We can make your dreams come true. I'm just saying. I'm going to make a wish kid for hate. It's got. That's wrong with you. You might be taking Don's crown. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:54 What an arc, man. All right. Last one on the other side of things. Draft steals. Yokic. Yokic has to be on there. It's the second round picks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:06 You're the greatest draft pick of all time. Manu. up there another champion in the second round if you get a Hall of Famer in the second round
Starting point is 00:28:12 like you're up there so are we going towards deepest in the draft or like best players is taking late because like Janus wasn't a lottery
Starting point is 00:28:18 pick MVP that doesn't happen very often a combination of both yeah I think Janus can definitely be up here you know what else
Starting point is 00:28:27 makes it tough like Shay was like a 13th pick so he's not that far away but Janus was a 15th pick non lottery in a terrible draft too yeah so we took 14 players
Starting point is 00:28:35 that had no business going top 10 in normal drafts over you Yeah, Janice might have to be on here. Yonis for sure. He's there. We were just taking bodies over Yonis. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And so Manu's second round, one-time All-Star, champion. Champion. Yeah. If that's the case, there's Drummond Green have to be on here, too, if Monos on here? I think so. We're said that precedent. Multiple. I mean, he's a foundational piece to a dynasty.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah, All-Star, D-P-O-Y. He definitely should be up here. He should be in practice. Yeah, but do I want to put him up here? If there's better players potentially here. He's a Hall of Fame. What do we do with Kobe going at 13? 13's a lot deep, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:18 13's deep. Jimmy Butler's at 30? I think I almost would rather believe. You want to swap Manu for Kobe? If that's the case, then yeah. Okay, yeah, if we're going to do that, if you're an MVP and you're going 13 or lower, you're on our list. Actually, I know because the Jay has to be on here.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Not going to lie. the goat at three is kind of great the goat not really Michael Jordan at three oh yeah no no no that's not really I mean Hakeem went one
Starting point is 00:29:48 yeah that's not like you're looking at one idiot Charlie Blizzers and the rocket's aren't even idiots yeah I'm saying Troubages one idiot yeah are y'all want to switch Mano and Giannis
Starting point is 00:29:59 now put Kobe so we're doing Kobe yeah yeah Kobe getting a five time champ at 13 so then then I think the conversation becomes Manu versus Draymond. Oof, that's what I'm going to piss people off?
Starting point is 00:30:11 If we entertain Dreamon Green over Manu, they're going to get pitchforks. Yeah. Guess what I'm entertaining? Guess we get skewered. No, man. Give me... Farming.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I guess it asked me Moni, though, just because he actually made... Oh, no, Jermon made All-Stars, too. Yeah. He did. How did we decide this? Does anybody have a quarter? Can we flip a coin? I don't have a quarter, man.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Pull out your phone. I have cash these days. Yeah, we can flip a coin. On your phone? Yeah, just tell Siri to flip a phone. I fuck that, rock paper scissors. I got Jeremy, you got my on here. All right, three.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Hell and Sell. Two out of three. Rock paper, scissors, shoot. I got one. Rock paper, scissors, shoot. I got two. Dremont Green is the fourth biggest draft deal. You went scissors back to back?
Starting point is 00:31:00 I was trying to. And I knew it. And I knew you would. I got him in a box. I got him in a fucking phone booth. What is that? I got him to fucking phone booth. Scissors back to back.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Oh, you pissed me off, man. Put him with a straight jacket. Oh. No, now he wants for a death. Let's go. No. Come on.
Starting point is 00:31:14 No, you're talking. Let's go. All right. Two out of three. Okay. All right. Two out of three. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Hey, hey, two and three. Come on. He was sitting again. I saw. I saw the player. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:28 All right. He's so dumb, man. I told you all. You can't even play the game. You just ruined my second. That's all. He was All right, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:42 All right, bro. All right, bro. Tell what you're supposed to chucked out. All right, man. How do you pick his? You got it. You got it. You got it.
Starting point is 00:31:51 You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. Ah, man. That was an embarrassing outing, Mom. You said what? That was an embarrassing outing.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Oh, wow. He got it. That was the last one, by the way. Oh, my gosh.

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