The Deep 3 Podcast - We Gave Every NBA Award Based On The Playoffs | Ep. 92

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

Everything we learned from game 1 of the 2024 NBA finals! Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Join the TD3 discord!: https://discord.gg/RUkjpMPp7E Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- Intro 2:00- Game 1 Reactions 30:05- We Gave Postseason Awards 1:03:00- Producer Corner 1:15:36- Lakers coaching news 1:27:30- tiktok time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

All right, bro. Let's, listen, are we going to talk about the beat down or? I mean, we just skip it over it. We have to, I suppose. Let's start off. Let's start with it. Beat down is a good way, really lightweight to put it. Yeah.

I would say it wasn't surprising, but it also wasn't fun. I don't know. As somebody who picked the Celtics, that was kind of fun, right? Just in the name of being right, I do. I thoroughly enjoyed that. Um, but listen, and we're going to get into it, but, you know, Chris Osprezegas is playing like this, man. This is a sweep like it might, it might be that.

He was so good tonight. It was insane. Yeah, I saw Caucasian victim women yama on the court out there. It was nuts. No, man. You did not only see Caucasian victim and binyama. You saw Christos Porzingis and all of the greatest tall, big Celtic white men in history. You saw Larry Bird.

you saw a have a check bro you saw fucking literally every single big dude there exactly bill wallon as well they're all behind him side by side hand in hand like the avatars when he goes in the avatar state they're all just giving them their powers yeah oh my god bro exactly yeah as you guys see by the title we are currently reacting right after game one of the finals it's currently 825 p.m pacific time off of the game that went very poorly for somebody rooting for the Mavericks, such as myself, went great if you're from Boston. Other than that, I think everybody's currently rooting against the Celtics. Much to talk about. If you're watching on YouTube, drop a like and subscribe for an audio platform, five stars, review. Let's get straight into it.

and don't know what to see. Pray on eaters, rejoice. Okay, so like I said, I really, really want the Mavericks to win. I need to see Luca Donchish with the championship. It would feel so good as a fan. The storyline would be awesome. Seeing him process would be great.

So I picked the Mavs. Made it very clear I was doing that out of fandom. I think we all agreed the Celtics were better. So this wasn't surprising to see them just be way better in pretty much every regard. But what about the performance specifically stood out to you guys, other than just more talent what do you see donovan a couple things one wow really makes a difference when alhorford is not the starter and he you know what I'm saying like when you he did start yeah

true you're right um but not the primary guy when yeah when you have a guy like christops poisingis even if he isn't playing to this level to give out for for the break um is massive right because then you can deploy him in spurts and he doesn't have to play 40 minutes the way that we saw for basically all of all of the playoffs before um or i guess after khrost got hurt there's that two everything that people said about jason tatum and lucca donchitz all season not just like coming into the season coming into the series it's right like you had the you had the jason tatum meme where he had like 19 11 and 5 and it's like if luka did that his averages would go down

or like Jason Tatum didn't have an amazing game from the shooting wise they're like Jason Tatum can shoot six or 15 and his team is still gonna win by 20 and it happens like every every all of that

is 100% real Jayne Brown amazing this was the J.B. game the Chris Oswald's in his game they like it was a Celtics game it was so even every Celtics game is like this

where all their players eat no one guy needs to go crazy Tatum doesn't have to take all the shots Lucas has to take and we make it seem like a fault of his. They are just so deep and so good in their top six and it went as you'd expect. You know, their team has a lot of variance. They're going to have good shooting nights like this where they beat the doors off anybody.

Then obviously we know they have some cold nights where they look more beatable. This is what it looks like every time when they're on their A game. We just thought, hey, maybe the Celtics, you know, I mean, maybe the Mavericks had the defense to slow them down. Luka can go ban for ban, whatever. No, it looked the same way it looks when they play everybody else. Yeah. Yeah, this game right here is the perfect way to describe who the Boston Celtics are to anyone

who's just first watching this basketball team for the first time ever. Hella ups, hella downs, of course. They were up by as much as like 30 points, I believe. And then they, yeah, yeah, 29 points. And the game, I believe in the third quarter, the lead was cut down to as few as eight points for just a quick second, just like that. and that is mostly like gear towards their play style they like to chuck hella threes and of course when you have the seven three demon and christops przingis going out and playing the first quarter like how he was playing makes you unstoppable unbeatable you know so it wasn't very surprising to see that

because christops is what makes them like yeah yeah you know the reason they win 64 games and they look far better and far more real than they ever looked in previous years is because of Christops. We've all known that. Let's so like you said, everyone knows the final score. 89107. Let's start from the first quarter. Donovan, you mentioned Christop's Porzingis. Yeah. That was the story of the first quarter. He didn't start the game, but he came in, I think about

four or five minutes into the game. And it looked like they just inserted the Winter Soldier. They just dialed them up, set all the right words, and he went go mode. The Mavericks were switching everything, including on Chrisops. So they were switching their wings onto him. Derek Jones Jr., Luca, PJ Washington, all of them, got their chance to defend Chris Sporzingis in the post. A strategy that makes sense to me a little bit, right? Like we talked about in the past when Jonas Von Chunus was doing this

against the Thunder earlier in the playoffs, it's okay if you let somebody attack a mismatch over and over again. If the other team does that too much and they fall out of their offense and try to beat you strictly in the post, that strategy makes sense to me as somebody that's looking at what the Mavs are doing. It doesn't make sense

if Chris Sop's going to make every single shot he takes and look like Prime Dirk. Then nothing makes sense you're going to lose. Yeah, I mean, okay, a couple things. One, he got away with like two offensive. fouls like he was he he he he hit somebody in the face and he kicked Josh green in the nuts and jane hardy hit him in the head there was there was several times where you could have caught an offensive foul that's that's one two listen everybody else was food Luca held his own in the

post Luca had multiple stops on Chris stops in the in the post I think moving forward if that's the matchup hey that ball's getting swung because yeah you you saw like Luca is just he's So he's so much stronger and he has such a like a stronger base than Chris stops where he can't just like turn and get to his spot even in the post because Lucas right there he's he's standing him up. So there's that but that like the shooting that's fine. What was so impressive to me was how amazing Chris ops was protecting the room. He had he had three blocks and at least three other plays where he was deterring some somebody for

from the rim altering a shot doing all that stuff and there was a stretch where the mavericks were like one of nine from the field and it's like they're going downhill they're getting you know they're getting kind of shots at the room which is which is what you would like but christops is just there eating every shot up and they were letting them be physical in the in the first half under underneath let's say my best but like yeah they like christop's yeah yeah christop's room protection was the key in the first quarter. Yeah. I'm glad it wasn't even just Christops either. Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum were rotating their asses off at the rim. It was a full team defense at the rim. There was one point late in the game, skipping forward a little bit, where Derek Glythe got into foul trouble

and they ran out a lineup with Max Cleepa as the big man, but he was more spaced out of the perimeter and Derek Jones was serving as the role man. Actually just happened right here. Jalen Brown was swatting his shit on rotations every single time Derek Joan tried to dunk. Same as Jason Tatum, they were able to play a super disciplined team defense and allow nothing at the rim and make Luca beat him as a score. He had one assist, I think, he finished the game with. Yeah. The match had nine as a team. Nine. Yes. I believe throughout the entirety of the season, Luca has never finished a game with worse than like three assists for the entirety of the year. And this game he finished with one. Like that game was hell effective, like you said. And

And I mean, if you're going to go ahead and let Luca go ahead and destroy you one-on-one, that's perfectly fine. And I think the Dallas Mavericks could have gotten away with it if Kyrie Irving would have went ahead and showed up. Why are we on Twitter? And the main talking point, the main player being slandered is the dude who's up by 20, damn near 30. Jason Tatum, folks are like, oh, yeah, Jason Tatum, this, Jason Tatum, that when Kyrie, the supposed best like Robin, One of the best robins we've ever seen is over here is going band for band with Drew Holiday. That's not his tier.

That's not his class. He's shot like six for 19. That's not what he's supposed to be doing out here. Yeah, man. The map is tough because obviously we knew that we always talk all year about the Celtics offense and how a lot of variation in it because of the way they like to play right

with all the three point attempts. Today we sell a good version of that. They got 42 attempts. Nonstop corner threes. Impossible to beat him that way when your offense isn't looking good for the reason you just said. Kyrie isn't playing well.

But the biggest thing is we talk about that and we ignore the fact that they have the number two defense in the league all year and that's why they're so unbeatable. That's why they have 64 wins and that's what we saw tonight.

Even though the Dallas Mavericks defense has stepped up over the course of the second half of the season, there's levels to this defense shit and the Celtics are on another tier. They have so much versatility. They were playing crazy lineups. I don't know if y'all noticed

they put Sam Hauser and Payne Pritchard in at the end of the first quarter. I think to just give them a crazy amount of different looks they weren't expecting. And then to start of the second quarter They ran two bigs. They ran KP and Al Horford,

which led to Luca wanted to ISO more attacking those bigs, just continuing to not get other people into their rhythm. So many different defensive combinations they can do

and they did it so well shutting everybody but Luca down. Shout out Sam Howser. Because Sam Howser was looking, we put him in an FTA, right? We were putting all the players in his finals

in the tier list. I mean, but like, but Sam Howser was a guy that we're like, hey, he might be unplayable because he was looking awful coming into the series. And he came in and instantly was knocking down threes. He had a three, didn't even dip the ball, right?

Caught the ball up here above his head and was like, yeah, like I'm shooting it. And it's a green bean. And it's, and there's nothing that you can do. Shout out Sam Houser. Shout out Payton Pritchard. Like you said, it's a complete team win. But this is also the first time in, I guess, about a month that the math. that the Mavericks are playing a team where everybody's firing because when you played against

the Thunder, Chet didn't have a fantastic series. Jaila Williams struggled. And then you go to Minnesota. Kat was playing well in stretches. He couldn't shoot from from downtown. But really, you're focused on Anthony Edwards creating offense and that's really about it. Now you're here, Jason Tato, Jalen Brown, Drew Holiday, Derek White, you know, Porzingis. You have five guys that you legitimately have to key in or any of them can beat you and that's just something that they haven't seen in a month

maybe all season and now to have to do this for a whole series for the next two weeks maybe a week and a half depending on how you know the next the next couple games go it's it's tough for them yeah five guys you can't really hide luke on anybody like in press series there was places for him to kind of pick his spots

he was getting picked on loki they were obviously swinging the ball around doing normal Celtics things there were so many times when he was rotating out to Jalen Brown specifically and Jalen Brown's fast brolic ass blew right by him

attacking his shoulder and Luca wasn't rotating off of that so Jalen Brown got a full out of seam to the rim of course lively whoever came over and it just led to an open three because Luca's just kind of standing around looking like who's gonna help me and that was a big problem

like Luca has to defend better and I don't know if he can because he has to do so much offensively like their whole entire game playing defensively He's just to like, yo, look, if someone's trying to exploit you on defense, funnel your guide towards liability or Gafford or whoever else, whoever else is playing a help side. And that's right there is a makes the Boston Celtics so scary because we haven't seen a team give them this many issues since the Oklahoma City Thunder, like Donovan said.

And this Boston Celtics team, I would say they like, they're, they're, they're, they're, the resemblance is uncanny between those two teams, except this Boston's own team is just like a much more primed level elite version across the board, you know, from head to toe. So, yeah, like in terms of how, man, how do you guys expect this team to respond to the Dallas Mavericks? How can't they? I mean, listen, they're going to make shots, right? Like they, we've seen, we've seen back and forth throughout the entire playoffs with every team.

Even teams like the Orlando Magic were like, yeah, they have no hope offensively. They would go back home and shoot well. So like Dallas is. Oh, yeah. That's not over. Yeah. It's, they, in my opinion, they do have to get game two. I think that they have to have to make this one-on-one.

I think that it's, it would be very hard to see them go down to and win this series in, in six or seven. But the fact that Luca was able in like the second quarter, mid-third quarter to really, really turn up. And you can see him, right, dialing it up, being the Luca that we all see, that's perfectly fine. The shots will drop for Tyree in another game. I think there's still opportunities for them to get in the series. But the time is now for sure. I want to take a quick second to shout out our newest sponsor, Coinbase. Coinbase is the official crypto wallet of the NBA and the currently offering a deal where if you sign up for a new account

and make your first trade with the promo code 20 deep three, they'll give you $20 or free Bitcoin. Again, all you got to do is sign up for a new account and make your first trade with the code 20D3. The whole time coming into this, we talked about last week, right, but we gave our predictions, not necessarily predictions, but we talked about ways the series can go. The only way we gave the Mavericks a chance to win is if Luca and Kari play Herculean basketball and carry the fuck out of him. I said it was David versus Goliath, and I was like, I'm rooting for David, but Donovan was like, listen, sometimes Goliath wins. Goliath has hands too and that's exactly what we're seeing David wasn't so big today

and they need to go crazy and that's really I think that's the only chance to have is if we see an all-time great performance in them which is possible right the guys we're talking about our all-time great players

but if things go per averages like they did tonight or let me not say that the mass play below average so they can do better but if they go anything close to this or even the math's playing a little bit better

but not quite amazing the Celtors are going to win there's too many advantages they have we talk about how to get up all these threes They took 42-3s. The maps took like 25 because the Celtics play such disciplined basketball, running all their wing players off the three-point line,

making Derek Jones, making PJ Washington, drive to the rim and make plays. And they just don't have the talent to make up for these different things that the Celtics are doing against them. Yeah. So two things. I want to touch back like 10 minutes ago earlier, as you're talking about like Celtics defense, you know, tends to get overlooked number two defensive league.

All of the issues that people see, with the Celtics, which is like late game decisions and their offense being so up and down, their defense is their offense pretty much. And that's how I view this team. They just unfuck up withable on all ends on that front right there. They're built to just stop a lot of teams. They have no real weakness. And touching back to, you know, Kyrie and specifically Luca needing to be like super sane version of themselves,

Luca was Luca can't really ask them to do too much. and Kyrie, obviously, he could have performed a lot better. We did a tier list on, was it Monday or Tuesday? I think it was Tuesday, T.D.3. Tuesday, 8 p.m. Eastern Time tap in. And we were debating putting him in the same tier as Jalen Brown or a tier above Jalen Brown. I'm not 100% sure. But this game right here is probably the reason why we did not put him above Jalen Brown in that tier. Oh, there's a debate. We were never putting above Jalen Brown.

That wasn't happening. But there's definitely people in the comments that were like, Kyrie should be ass and all this shit. You're right. Jalen Brown is playing his ass off. Two-way impact. Legitimately great defense today. And, you know, we big up Kyrie on the games that he goes crazy.

And we ignore the ones where he doesn't go crazy because we have Luca to point too. And this is, like I said, Dave and Glythe, people treat the math like as Luca and Co. And Kyrie often falls into Co when he's not playing well. 100%. Now, listen, let's do the thing. all right oh my god game game one is over finals MVP christops or jalen brown

let's do the thing i just i want to have a game by game tracking if if you guys were handing it out after jaylon brown jillin brown yeah i mean christ i think what jane brown was able to do in the paint and look like prime rudie gobert matumbo in that bitch and just send shit left or right send like a kairie block and just the mess that he was defensively pick pocket and Luca just like right there what we just saw bro he has to be leading so far he's three steals and three blocks like he was a defensive playmaker he was going crazy the room pressure he was applying exposed to luca on defense was huge easily him yeah i you guys feel about the let the game by game slander of tatum that's been the talk of time

my goodness bro i feel terrible i hate it so much because now i think it's gone to a point to where people would just genuinely just hate him as a person for no absolute reason at all. It's not hate. It's not hate. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. It's not logical at all. Everybody, everybody wishes that their favorite player can go six of 16, right?

I have 16 points in a finals game. And then their team win by 25. Like, he does this on a consistent basis. And again, Jay, even like regardless of what the numbers say, he played a good game tonight, right? Like, I'm not, I'm not going to, I'm not going to come out. and say like oh he you know he snuck it up he i thought that his like connectivity and the way that he kept the ball moving his rebound it was actually really good he played good defense like he did a lot of really really good things tonight um but when you are number one and then you come out and

it's the kp game it's a jillin brown game it's three other guys before it gets to you it's just jealousy it's like oh yeah like like i wish step could do that i wish she could do that and it's so fucking dumb because guys that are in even Tatum earlier in his career, it's called two years ago, whatever it is, he can come out of here and score 30 a game, do his thing and the team doesn't win because he's not a great passer, he's no deficiencies

in his game where people will say, oh he's not making people around him better, he's a ball hog, all these things if they don't win. As soon as they have a team that play style dictates him to take less shots and be more of a cog and keep the ball moving and buy into his role, like we ask other stars to do, once they do that

and the points aren't as high, it's like, oh, he's a bum he's being carried like there's no winning when you're obviously especially not you're on the Celtics obviously everyone's going to hate on the Celtics but yeah people are going to find a way to slander regardless i told you guys i told i told you guys before the series chaylon brown is a very very viable option to get finals MVP and what's the conference and what's the conversation going to be like then going into the summer it's a nasty conversation that's about to happen because again after after tonight and if dallas continues to guard tatum the way that they did tonight.

And he keeps being patient and doing the right thing. He's not going to be set up for success if success is being winning the finals MVP. Exactly. Yeah. And Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown's doing this. He's going to have all the moments. He's going to have the block. He's going to have the pickpock.

He's going to have 23 points instead of Tatum's 21 points. And it's going to be disgusting for about three months. The play that just happened a couple of plays ago, Luca and I think was Josh Green doubled the shit at a Tatum. He passed to the top and they threw it to the corner. Wide open Jalen Brown corner three. People see that and then like, oh, Jalen Brown's hooping when the fact that Jason Tatum made the right pass and diagnosed a play immediately led to the wide open three that took zero effort. Like that type of stuff is not going to be recognized.

It's just going to be, ooh, looking to get carried. Jalen Brown sent all these threes when that only started because Jason Tatum drew the requisite attention to make that happen. All I'm hearing is that Atlanta is up once again Marietta legend Jalen Brown put on for the city, man. Atlanta runs the league This is what we do He's here Oh my don't No what are you saying

Atlanta Strikes a game Can never escape Fuck Shut out Left out the map Man I'm also

I'm interested I like the fact That also Like if we're talking about Dan Brown I like the fact that Boston Put him on Luca to start the game

I thought that was very interesting I also And, like, we saw it on the steel. I was wondering, because they didn't really do it in the first quarter. I was wondering when they were going to pressure bagwork. I was wondering when they were going to pressure Nuka 94 feet. And the first time that they did it, it felt like it was on that Jalen Brown steel that he actually, you know, pressured him on the walk of past the half court line. I think going for the rest of the series, personally, that's something that I would just like to see from Boston just because I thought that their pace.

especially in the first half, like the difference in speed that they were playing and that Dallas was playing was so noticeable. They were getting the ball across half court with like 20 seconds left and having the rest of the shot clock. Dallas wasn't getting across half court until 17 seconds left. They were incredibly slow. And when Boston is just going to go, go, go get up all these threes, I think lengthening the possession on the other side plays right into what Boston wants to do. For sure. And even on topic of how they're defending them, one thing that I was asking maybe they'll do this

they ended up doing they started the game with Jason Tatum on the opposing team center so that the big man is guarding a wing and basically if you Lu Kudanshish

want Daniel Gaffer or Derek Glyvi to set us green for you get ready to see Jason Tatum switch on to you which is an entirely different style of defense than opposed to seeing

a big there where he can run a traditional pick and roll throw lobs and whatnot Jason Gann has to figure out how to negate that and I don't know there's a lot of good answers there

I guess the best answer is have Derek Jones or whoever set the screen for you so you can get Christos Porzingis in the action. But then we saw it today when Derek Jones is rolling, Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum had the length to just deny him at the rim. So, again, I want to, I'm trying to speak of Mavs winning to existence. Like, I'm just, I'm trying to ride for them because I want them to win so bad. But there's so little advantages they have outside of maybe Luca Donchich is God. That's the only real thing is like, hopefully everything was right for them

and everything was wrong for the Celtics. That's like all I can hope for. It's going to be fine. And if he's God, though, it doesn't necessarily matter unless, like, Kyrie is along his side, fighting by him, you know? Yeah.

It's, yeah, and I, the biggest thing will be, the Mazz will play better offensively, obviously. So the series is not over yet. Like, it's not going to be a sweep or anything like that. I just, Jason Kidd has to make some big adjustments that we don't see coming and pull out something that slows down

the Maver's offense. And I just, how do, how do we, how do we expect that, you know? I mean, you don't, yeah, like you said, you don't really expect that, but that's what, I mean, but that's what, that's what coaches do. And I think, again, early on, like, the blitz from Boston was so early that it throws out kind of what you're, what you're trying to do. And I actually think that that's kind of, you know, it might have, it might have been okay for Dallas to, not okay in terms of the game, but like,

they're going to be fine and you can just be like I'm like hey they hit shots we did it and you can point to that and you know sleep well and everything's going to be okay midway through the second quarter I looked up and Boston had already taken 23s and Dallas was like two of 11 at that point yeah early on early on in games if it's a massive difference if you are not falling down 13 14 instead of a five six point game maybe even being up So they just got to start faster and it's, it's going to be okay in game too. I think it works both ways, though. I know earlier the week I heard some math fans I mentioned.

We're saying that Jason Kidd is a bad game plan coach immediately, but an excellent adjustment coach. So, like, they oftentimes lose game ones in series, then come back and get better as a series goes on because he's good at noticing things and making adjustments. That could be the case. But the problem you just mentioned where you're like, we can tell ourselves, listen,

our threes weren't falling, theirs were. That's true. But I think in this instance, with this specific matchup, there's noticeable things that the Celtics did and that we knew they were going to do before the series that led to that discrepancy. So I don't think you can just go in and assume that'll change because that's a very purpose of outcome that the Celtics worked for. Well, I mean, it could, it's not a bad assumption because the only two games that the Celtics have lost throughout the entirety of the postseason so far has, I'm not ironically

enough, been game twos versus the Miami Heat, of course, and the Cleveland Cavaliers. But yeah, like going back to what you said, it's going to be hard for them to find. their advantages. I think we're talking about this last episode, or was it last stream, one of those two. Daniel Gafford, good God, man. This is not the series of him whatsoever. I think he only paid like 14 minutes and didn't do a whole lot of much. And I'm going to take the plus by there's just not many places for him in this series or in my mind long term thinking on this roster anymore. Yeah. Daniel, Derek Lively got in a foul trouble, got five thousand a third. They took him out and put Kleba in at center

who also played like dog shit tonight. Kleba was getting ran off the court, getting abused by everybody in white. It was dirty, and they still didn't put Gafford out there. Daniel Gafford was minus 10 in 14 minutes. And he had the best plus minus of the starters. And that's just because he didn't play enough. Exactly.

It's tough, man. Yeah, again, series isn't over. We know what Luca can do. We know what Kari can do. We're not counting them out by any means. But it's still an up-foot battle Like we knew it was coming into the series And now there's one more win

They had to make up for Absolutely. If I'm a Dallas-Mariff fan And if you're depressed for some odd reason Because of this loss Look at that the word quarter And see how the momentum completely swing See how the defense clamped down And the Celtics momentum

And rhythm just was overall thrown off Because naturally their play style I mean that's baked in So look how the Celtics responded immediately Yeah that's that's baked in to Celtic basketball like they could have been up by 40 I was like all right well you know

let's just wait for the Mavericks run and wait for them to get it down at 12 like I had no doubt that Boston was going to make this interesting and that you know they're not going to win it easily they're not going to be some crazy dominant wire to wire there's always going to be stretched

where they get it in it yeah that's modern basketball right we talk about early in the playoffs you see less blowouts these days you see less sweeps because there's more variation in basketball more three point attempts equal more variation and you're going to see more runs than you ever have in the past you're going to like you said they're going to have to work for it it's not going to be they can win in their sleep absolutely you're right but i also believe like the other guys like kairi specifically was actually hitting timely shots and shit like that

in this game uh there was very much pretty much none of that no any like momentum swinging shots they all pretty much all came from guys like luka the entirety of the game especially in that third quarter. And he was 4.12 and 3. He wasn't even good. I know. Yeah, I think Kyrie is the biggest swing factor that can make this game closer in game 2 for sure. A lot of

other things will see what the adjustments are like, but we know Kyrie can shoot better from the field. He just played poorly. That one wasn't necessarily as schematic. That is definitely going to change, I think. But then again, so can Jason Tatele. We can do those on both sides. Yeah. He only had like, what, 16 points tonight or something like that?

Yeah. Yeah. 16 on 6th 16 shooter. It wasn't asked, but it wasn't great. But, hey, is Jason Tatum. What do you expect? I guess I could wrap up our game one reactions. We'll see what happens in game two. This would be a big one.

Game two, that's on Sunday. So we'll react on Monday on the stream to what happens then. And we'll have a lot more concrete opinions because I think two games is a, you know, double sample size. More you can learn. Tap into the streams Monday 8 p.m. Facts. Tap into go watch the streams that we just did before,

the tier listing of all the finals players. it was a good-ass stream I liked it a lot we were having a hunk off last stream too we were I started talking about at the end of the stream and on Twitter somebody added me about it and I quoted it and all the Pokemon fans started ratioing me oh my god really I had a very

divisive opinion it wasn't trash it's just a it's controversial a lot of people agree to me too but a lot people vehemently disagree it was trash you alright man on to the next topic as you guys see by a title life I think I'm titling there for this not sure

but we're going to give MBA awards for the postseason so far so all the same awards you do with the end of the regular season MVP rookie of the year DPOI coach of the year six man of the year we're going to do that for just what we've seen in the playoffs exactly but we have a slight twist with it right with one of the year awards I believe it's rookie of the year yeah rookie of the year isn't going to be an actual rookie you know not a first year player it's going to be somebody who's a rookie to the playoffs so that's your first time making it exactly so we got a little spice to this

motherfucker who do you want to start with well let's take the sixth topic right let's let's talk about rookie of the year the one we just mentioned who is your rookie of the year Donovan you go first I feel there's two names for us to decide between right what was I think two stars I don't know I right I don't know you guys go first you guys go first you guys go for okay my rookie year is palo bankero yes wow wow wow Palo Bencaro shot damn your 50% from the field 40% from three 25 points for game was hoping the team was atrocious against a good defense that had no spacing everything went terribly he did really well he rose to the occasion played more efficient he did in the regular season on many times and it was between him and Tyrese Halliburton I thought about Tyrese Halliburton because Harry Tyrese Halliburton you know he won two series and made the conference finals so I was like you know I got a reward winning to some extent that I thought about Tyrese Halliburton I thought about out of bed. I'm like, man, he won conference finals because Yannis got hurt. Then O'Smanobi got hurt and everybody else. So shout out of him. He did his job. Did his job, right?

But his production individually wasn't outstanding. It wasn't bad. He played solid. It was like 19 and nine on solid efficiency. But I think what Paolo did was a more impressive individual performance that I didn't just go winning by us. What Paulo did reconfirms everything that a lot of people thought he would be. You know, like Paul's, he was drafted to be the security blankets. the superstar to go ahead and rise above all the BS that happens on the basketball court. When you have a bunch of players who are, man, around you know, he is legitimately a superstar in the making. And him putting up, what was it? What were his stats?

27 points per game, 8.6 rebounds, four assists, 45% from the field. My bad, I said almost 50. It was 45 and 40% from three. And in the last three playoff games, he put up 39, 27, and 38. and he was shooting 57% 3.3.3.9. 40 and 50%. He was pretty much bulletproof outside of like one game throughout

this super tough series. And of course, like a lot of people forget since it was so long ago, it was a seven game series. So they could, they could have easily been in the second round versus the Boston Celtics. But nah, man, he easily deserves this rookie of the year. Yeah, and during the regular season, a lot was made about how hard his job is in this team where he's essentially the point guard in the half court

and they don't have the best base in the world by any means and don't have the best playmakers set him up by any means and all these things every issue is that mattered in the regular season but I think we're a little bit overblown in the course of regular season game a lot of times they're not like sagging off the corner shooter every play and like doing things they do in the playoffs so I think sometimes people give them too much sympathy

for that in the regular season but on the playoffs in the playoffs they were making these motherfuckers shoot packing the paint making his life hell and he rose to the occasion and listen 27 Eight and four is ridiculous. He did better than he did in the regular season.

Like he truly got better when his team needed him to most. And he's right on schedule for a number one pick, budding superstar that's going to be the face of this franchise for a long time. He made the necessary steps that you'd want to see in his first rookie playoff performance. Yeah. I had you guys go first because I couldn't pick. I like, I legitimately had a tie between them just because the same thing that we talk about with the sucks. We're like, hey, you can only play who's in front of you.

Tyree Taliborne kind of did the same thing. Like I know that the bucks were hurting. I know that the Knicks were hurt, but there were times where he actually stepped up and they were able to win several playoff series. And for a team that has been, you know, as rising as the Indiana Pacers, like there was some moments in the second round against the Knicks where he really, really stepped up. He was going crazy. And even though that the shooting wasn't always there, his ability to control the game and facilitate and set up his teammates has always been amazing. and granted part of that is because of like the play style

and he actually has people who can shoot the basketball and Paolo does it. Yeah. So I put a little bit of the winning bias for Tyrese and then for Paolo it's obviously like everything

that you guys said because you can see their one shooter away, their one creator away from people actually having space to operate and then probably several shooters away. You know,

honestly, the way that Paolo was playing, you can get one more guy in there and they'll be okay. And they'll probably be in the second round. issue. Yeah. The reason why you feel like that is because I feel like when we watch Paulo this year, like he was one of the most, the more certain guy. There were no real questions about his game and what he was able to do on both sides of the floor, playmaking,

shooting the ball, distributing whatever. It doesn't matter. But for Tyrese, there, like, although he was good, I may be like, this is me putting in the like IST tax because of how spectacular his performance was and he had him just not looking like the same level of caliber player that he was then but I think like we walked away from watching Tyrese play this year and feeling like huh he could get better in like a few more areas of the game so he doesn't very much feel like a complete you know offensive guard no Tyrese was good and you know shout to him for winning I don't I'm not holding the injury thing against him per se I'm just I'm contextualizing what their run was and deeming it not enough to make up for the fact that I thought palette was better you know

I think he was more impressive a Mickey voucher run No, just to be, it's fine. He did his job, but I, some conference finals run, he's like, oh, this motherfucker elevated. He carried his team. This is crazy. It wasn't one of those. So it was good.

They did their job, collective team effort. But it wasn't enough contributing to winning to make me think I got to put him above Palo because of the winning. Yeah, exactly. And hey, I don't think either of us are saying like, Paula Berwick Bencaro is better than Tyrese Hallibor and that's just like ridiculous conversation to have. We're just simply acknowledging Paula Bencaro and how great his first appearances. You couldn't ask for a better.

performance from Apollo at all there we go look at us locks up is there anybody else that deserves honorable mention

uh yeah not really nah yeah there really wasn't as many uh

impact players that it was the first time here like it could have been jade over chat but they didn't play particularly well they kind of dwindled in the second round

not dwindled but no yeah we didn't say that they didn't play as yeah yeah they didn't win a little bit they were

to mixed amounts like Chet defended well but obviously offensive didn't produce jada up the window he needs to improve in that run but those are the people that had a really big opportunity there didn't quite happen thanks yeah i agree ironically are the two guys that i spent time arguing being in the same tier as palo ban carroll other ones who didn't do well his levels to this i still stand on it i still think i'd write out of chat long term

but palo 100% deserves that he played infinitely better with an infinitely harder job i agree this is the conversation. Next up, coach of the year. Who do you want to give coach of the year to for this playoff run? I think it's pretty simple and clear. Is it? Is it? It should be a sweep.

Who? Okay. Tell us who it is. It should be Jason Kidd. I mean, I think we can all agree that he, the adjustments that he made throughout all these series with how different each every team that he faced off was and him basically like adapting to every single defense and offense that he faced as well specifically like the defense that he put out there is what made

me go ahead and select him as the coach of the year uh because it was he threw out a lot of things that no one thought would hold up in the playoffs defensively putting funneling guys towards gafford and derrick lively and of course like it it makes it makes it makes it his job a little bit easier when you do have players like lively who can surprisingly execute on that end of on that end of the floor but the adjustments for me the live game adjusts for me is what does it yeah i agree i'm with jason kid i think do you have a hobbled lucca who tore up the timber wolves before that you know he had impact he's still an elite passer doing luka things but wasn't playing to previous luka playoff runs and the fact that you could have

that be the case you can have carrie irving be up and down you can have your third best player be a rookie. And you still make the finals with the hardest road anybody had going through three top four seeds, I think. Well, no. Yeah, yeah, three top four seeds. Many people would say three of the best teams into playoffs outside the Nuggets, right? Like, they went through a gauntlet and rose the occasion every time when they had all the reason to be like, oh, I guess it's not our year. We're not healthy. Purely off of coaching in elite defensive game plans. I'll go Jason kid as well. If we were doing most improved, though, I my second on this list was Joe Mazz I think I think that that Missoula

I honestly he's great too yeah I honestly think that the Missoula has been worlds better this year than he was last year I think part I think you were too hard on Missoula before this run though I think that was a big difference early the season you were like should he get fired I was like what are we talking yeah that was crazy no it wasn't if they if they didn't make the finals I would have fired Joe Missoula and I stand by that well they did so exactly he gets to keep his job good job you impose this rule and then when he just doesn't that's such a funny thing what do you what do you mean i said if if x happens

then then he would lose his job x didn't happen so like he keeps his job you know i but i i do think that there were points last last season where it felt like several times the celtics came out and they were not ready they weren't they weren't prepared it felt like from game to game the adjustments weren't necessarily there and even in game in terms of stuff like like game management like you know calling timeouts or things like that a lot of that has been largely fixed from joe mazula i think that the celtics outside of game twos between miami and cleveland where they have gone crazy from three the celtics have been pretty much prepared on the game on a game to game basis and I think that their in-game management has also been pretty well. So I'm going to go Jason

kid, but I do, especially because I was so hard on Joe Missoula, I do want to spotlight the fact that I do think that he's been a lot better than what I gave him credit for him last year and even at the start of this year. Yeah, that makes sense. Listen, he's, is this second year, full year now as a head coach? Coach has need time to improve just like players do. And he was a rookie head coach and now he's not right he's he's seasoned veteran at this point after a really deep run last year that ended in tragedy in some parts because of him so it makes total sense that he'd improve from that and get better so i respect the pick there yeah what a word you guys on do next we're flying through these easy ones first do most improved player yeah most improved player my most improved

player in the playoffs shea gildas alexander wow interesting on the screen right now that's that's not what i was thinking his last playoff run was 2020 when he was playing shooting guard next to Chris Ball and was not any type of one option. And now he was one option for a team that won a playoff series pushed a team is in the finals, a tough six games where he was let down by his two co-stars not playing particularly well while he continued to be a killer going crazy averaging 32 points per game, 50% from the field and 55% from three against the Dallas Mavericks elite defense. You know, simply the last time we saw him in the playoffs several years ago, he wasn't this guy. Now he is his first time being a

option. You know, a lot of the naysayers on the Thunder were finding any reasons to picket straws on why they'd lose in the first round, part of which is like, oh, Shea's never done it before. He's never been in the situation. It did not matter. He rose the occasion just fine. Wow. Donovan, I feel like, were you going to pick Jalen Brunson? I mean, that's the obvious choice. I was, it was until I remember last year he also averaged 31 points per game in the series. So I was like, oh, I forgot. I forgot. Jalen was already a superstar. last year in a in a series but even the series before that like he average 20 he average 28 last year and that was that was over two series obviously they played two series again this year but

he went from 20 like 28 to 32 and his assist went up by two the amount of pressure and the amount of offensive responsibility that jalen brunson had to carry nobody else in the playoffs outside of maybe luca donches had to carry that much offensive load and jalen brunson rose to the occasion massively so yeah i get like he he rose to absolute like super super star level this this playoffs so did she it's most improved so from the last time we saw in the playoffs you said jalen went from what did you say 24 to 32 28 28 32 jane jane went from 16 to 29 good job that is hilarious clearly the most improved you brother we

got Alec Burke's minutes in 2024. That's how down bad. They're running lineups where Alex took it to 29. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I had a feel you guys are going to go that way. I was looking at one other person.

And before you go, Mo, who you think who's your other honorable mention, Donovan? Joel and Bader, actually. Oh. I get it. Loki, just just because like, we've seen him throughout games throughout like full games be kind of bad um in the playoffs and this

time it was just limited to the fourth quarter so like that's improvement and he still had a 50 point game he was still fighting you know with half a face doing all that stuff so there is there is some credit to be had in the way that he played this year that's hilarious I guess uh so for my pick I knew you guys were going to lean Shea and Brunson had a strong fit. That was going to be the outcome for you guys. So I had to go a couple of years lower. Carl Anthony Towns. The last time he was nasty.

He was nasty. He shot like 25% from a three point line. This past playoffs, he shot 36%. It should have been higher, but he just went on the craziest, nastiest lump against the Daz Mavericks. And last year to playoffs, I believe he averaged like four personal files a game. This playoffs, three personal. files last year to playoffs this dude went ahead and average four turnovers a game this playoffs he averaged a little bit over one and a half you know so that's improvement right there all across

the board in terms of knowing your role and being closer to what did timbrews need alongside ruddy go bear in order for this offense to be one and like on paper like no one's going to be like yeah most approved player or whatever but I appreciate the margins I appreciate minor changes and the subtle and the little growth from players, you know? Yeah, I respect that. Listen, Shay is kind of cheating because he went from playing in as a young player to playing in as a superstar, so of course he's massively improved. So if we disqualify Shea because that's like obvious,

then I can understand the cat pick. I would have went with Brunson a little bit just because I feel like that move from being great to like unfuck with the ball is a little bit harder than like not playing like you don't know play basketball, which was cat's biggest improvement. It was like being competent. But I respect it because it was important. they wouldn't have made that deep run if he didn't clean up all those issues you outlined

it was massively important for a team that made a deeper run than the teams were talking about yeah absolutely if cad didn't make this improvement they would probably be out in the second round instead of the first instead of the third round yeah I mean it would be hard for them to even be where they're at right now as a top two C because his improvements and abilities to play the four were like massive for this team to work at all in the first place I agree but the Maverick series that happened. So that's that makes it. It was just flashbacks, nightmare into 23 playoff

cat. But, you know, it's an improvement at the end of the day and I see I see him for what he is and I just appreciate the little minor rose. I think if we think about if like if we were to combine the regular season and the playoffs, I think Janele Brunson is the most improved player over the last calendar year. Like we last time we did rankings, I think I ranked him 24th in the NBA. I'm going to think. I'm going to to have conversations like is he 12 like what how high can is he breaking the top 10 like we're gonna have some conversations what you said you taking jalen brunson over d r fox

fuck yes i'm taking him over d a fox without a thought thank you thank that should be in a heartbeat yeah that's crazy yeah no i'm just i'm just i'm just asking that that was a point of contention whenever we did the rankings that i was trying to tell you he's in he's in donovan mitchell conversations now for that just behind the top 10 in the lower teens like these are the commas we're going to be having this summer. That's crazy. And I agree. And even and I really like I was late to the party on him early in this season because I was like, let's see the three points you can keep up. It did. So in the regular season, I've been like, okay, he's great. But this playoff run is a whole other level that's like not even just

recognizing, okay, he's going to consistently be this all sort of a player. It's like, wait a minute. Is he a superstar? This is crazy. Yeah. I agree with you. He definitely, either like him, he's in that conversation in terms of like full calendar their full calendar year who made the biggest leap it's him you could say Anthony Edwards I guess and then who's it there's one more player oh Tyrese Halliburn

because he generally did like go into another another Eschewana player and you can do young players too like Palo Bancaro Scotty Barnes they made their first all-stars that's cheating of course they're going to be improving like that but in terms of players who you don't necessarily expect it from their current age it's got to be them I agree for sure

next award who was the d p oi for the 2024 playoffs this i'll go first go ahead i'll go ahead and get it out the way now i had a few players on my list i had ruddy go bear on my list but i i feel like i would be getting made fun of by all the crown years right now because let me go first then let me let me go first then oh because you got ruddy go bear go ahead hell yeah i got ruddy go bear i don't give me shit about the twitter combos yokech cooked them All this stuff. He can't guard Luca 101 in the perimeter.

No shit. Nobody can. He had such an absurd plus minus. When he was not playing, their defense was ass. They made the conference finals because their defense locked down the Phoenix Suns. Locked down the Nuggets, made them meltdown in the game seven with a 20-point lead. None of this is possible without Rudy Gobert. When you combine skill plus impact and how far their defense took them, it's easily Rudy Gobert.

I don't even think there's a close second. I don't think none of it's possible without Rudy Gobert. Zero is possible. I mean, their best defensive showing was the game without Rudy Gaubert. Now, let's do the rest of the other games. What about the rest of the other games? I'm just arguing against the point of none of that is possible. It was possible.

They had, they didn't have Rudy Gaubert on the floor and then we were like, is this the best defense we've ever seen? That's crazy. It is possible. And do you believe they could do that for a month straight without Rudy Gow bear? You think they do that? I would like to see. I would like to see.

I would not. It wouldn't be pretty for them. We'll see. They'd be so made without him. Discon. It was your. defensive player yeah who else is in contention for you know you can pick that back up after i had to make it clear to him who do you think that is also in the running me yeah yeah because you

you see you're gonna pick and go bear were you i wanted to go ahead and pick pick gober i threw his name out there first to go ahead and give him his kudos of course i think he's like genuinely the real winner but i didn't want to pick the popular pick because that would be fucking boring if he just said the same thing continuously you know i know i'm all about entertainment so i went ahead and picked a drew holiday uh he made genuinely like this huge just been super impactful then and as usual uh had hell of moments in the eastern conference finals versus tyrese halliburn plenty of moments uh put darius girl in absolute hell drew holiday is true holiday man like all those podcasts all the interviews you see about everyone luca dants whoever the hell would be whoever the hell i was calling

him the best from her defender it's fucking facts bro yeah i i wouldn't even know who to pick on those Celtics they're also good that I thought about that like the other team that made a deep run off of defense I'm like I don't want to say Jason Tatum too bro I want to yeah I thought of a word yeah yeah who'd you pick Donovan uh I was between obviously listen if we're being real Isaac is is right like Rudy Gobert was the best defender but that's not my pick though uh because I was between between does read exactly I was I was between the two guards. I was between Derek White and Drew Holiday. And seeing as Drew Holiday already got some love, Derek White, you are my pick for DPOI in the playoffs. I think we've seen

Derek White make just some crazy plays throughout the playoffs. Obviously, Drew Holiday has made like game ceiling plays. Derek has been awesome as well. His ability to just be in the passing lane to just be everywhere and super impactful on everybody. It's second thing. to probably only Drew Holiday. And they probably flip-flop depending on the day of who's the better defender. What luxury, man. This team's ridiculous.

Yeah, it's crazy. So I'm going to take away. God, they're so clearly going to win the finals. It's annoying. I hate it. Try to tell you all. We all knew. I just tried to speak an otherwise outcome into existence.

I never believed it. Oh, no. I'm talking about Lassette. Crazy. No, you did call it before. You did call it before the season. I was on Bucks bandwagon. you're Celtics on the start

Celtics and five and five I think the maps can make it harder than that if KPs like this it's fine he won't be like this though he's not going to be shooting like that every night that's the one thing that's going to go back to normal

a little bit I'm not going to like a lot listen the Celtics they're run in 2022 at the same mindset I thought they were losing in the second round because I was like they can't keep shooting like this and then they kept shooting like this so they can definitely do it

Damn, damn, damn. The Nuggets should be here, man. This is crazy. Dude, the fucking 20-point Game 7 meltdown. We're watching the highlights right now, and it's just like, how is this? Like, because the Nuggets, in my opinion, again, I've picked against the maps every series after the first one. The Nuggets 100% would have beaten the maps, in my opinion, and they should be here. Dude, early this season, I remember I made a video where I said the self-links aren't good enough because I don't think.

they can be the Nuggets. I said they can be anybody in the league besides the Nuggets, I think. From, I assume the Nuggets eliminated. Yeah, the Celtics are just clearly in a league of their own. It's so annoying. Let's not speak too soon.

God damn. You're all. I mean, I'm just... Yeah, you're right. It's not over. It's not over. It's not over. It's not over.

Be a fucking man, Isaac. Stay to your fucking word. My word was, my word was, I really want the mouse to win my brain thinks otherwise. So I never had a good word on this matter. I know. I understand your pain, though, for sure. I want us to live it went so bad.

Also, y'all have gotten the narrative going so much. Everybody's like, hmm, you like the two white players. I'm curious. Y'all successfully made that narrative happen. As if they're not the best two players in the NBA. They're the best two players alive. Of course, I like them both. You did it to yourself.

This man used to ride for Yannis. Not anymore. You're right. No, Janus is still up there. I wonder why. See, I like them, too. What's next? They're all international.

We're going to add a big wrinkle every time. It's interesting. He said Janus and not Jason Tatum. Okay, how many awards are that we want to yap about? We have one more, right? Only a word left.

MVP. MVP? Who is your 2024 playoffs MVP? Donovan, you want to start this off? I mean, come on. We're going with Jaylen Brunson. Like, I'm not, I'm not going to go anywhere else.

I understand that both of you guys are going to pick Luca Donchitz, right? I understand that that's where you guys are going to go. Sheep, sheep, that's fine. Again, what Jalen Brunson was asked to do on a nightly basis, offensively is insane. And the levels that he rose to was crazy. We legitimately saw him do things. like we he was also having an all-time run and if if you know five of his teammates didn't die

on the floor we could be having a very different conversation right now about the game one that we just saw and i think that jelam brunson are you suggesting the nix would have made the finals i'm saying it was a possibility if people didn't die but uh nix fans are a disease bro it's been like i'm sorry i'm sorry let it's been What are we talking about? Yes, it's possible. No, it's not, but I get, I get it. I respect the pick.

I, I get what you picked him. He was my second pick, obviously. You're right. I went Luca. I think, shout out Jam Brunson. He did things that were similar to what Luca does every playoff series. And we're like, whoa. So for him, that's crazy.

The standards that he had were far below that. So it's massively impressive. And we expect this in Luca. So we expect 32 points per game in the conference finals to make the finals. It's not as mind-blowing because we've seen him do it before. But he still did it. I think in the MVP conversation, making the finals, holds a little bit more weight than previous ones because it is, you know,

the MVP in the same way that winning matters some of the regular season. So I felt like I had to go with Luca who has comparable production and is in the fucking finals. But I respect the Brunson pick. Yeah, obviously it's a very respectable pick. The levels that Dalen Brunson ascended to, no one ever, like, would have predicted that or seen it coming. Unless you're Donovan off of like shrooms or whatever, then. Yeah, whatever, you see it. But seeing

Seeing Jalen Brunson go ahead and give folks 37, 40 points, Luca does the exact same thing, but on top of that, too, he'll go ahead and give you 12, 9, 8 assists pretty much every other night unless it was a night like tonight, you know? And Luca defended his ass off in the conference finals. He made big stops against that team that was more suited for his style of defense.

Don't think you do that against the Celtics for the reason we said earlier in the pod, But against that matchup, he did what he was needed as an ISO defender and really elevated them outside the ball whenever some nights, you know, his shot wasn't falling. He found ways to make them better, beat you with their passing, all this type of stuff that, you know, shout out Jaylon Brunston.

He just doesn't bring that type of stuff, you know. It's just Lucas is on a different tier of basketball player. Oh, to have Kyrie Irving as your second option. Oh, oh, my gosh. Yeah, it did him a lot of good tonight. It did him a lot of good against the clippers. It's amazing. Oh, okay.

So we're throwing out. rounds of Kyrie. Nice. So we're going to pretend we weren't talking earlier how he's real up and down and he only gets mentioned whenever he's up. We're going to pretend that it didn't happen. We're going to act like we didn't do a whole stream and saying, is this the most talented offensive backward we've ever seen? This is a man, we've ever seen BR streams. Let me not have to go back the curtain. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I remember. I remember last year, Donovan, you were on Anthony Davis's case about literally being up and down, up and down. Three point. game here 19 point for game here all that stuff Kyrie Irving is literally doing the exact same thing No it's not the exact

It's not the exact same exact thing He literally is worse It's worse because one was also A fucking DPO-Y caliber defender in a series And one isn't He's just up and down On offense

Right keep talking Keep keep talking That's all these I'm gonna I'm putting this up For you right too Okay Kyrie Irving

At least had At least had Because what I was What I was getting on Anthony Davis for Was that one game He would have 30 or something and then go down to like 15 he wasn't having okay he would have let me stop you

right there 70 kairi irving tonight and kairi irving has at least done that multiple times 12 points the game is that 36 points i'm saying the level of volatility that anti davis was at offensively last year is way worse than the level of volatility that uh kairi has been this year now let's do defense how about that part of the ball that's not what i'm talking about that was never my argument It should be. I know it's not what you're talking about. That's the problem. Why?

If I'm talking to offense, why would I bring up defense? Because we ignore the other side of the ball as if the offense is the only thing that matters. I'm not, I was never talking about him as a full player. I was upset that one of the guys who was averaging 20-something points a game could not score 20-something points a game back to back.

I know, but I've never said anything about his defense. If one is, I don't know what measure we are saying who's more inconsistent, but if one is slightly more inconsistent offensively, and what, never mind, Why we're going back

That's what we're talking about. We're talking about Offensive Ineonsistency. We're talking about Offensive inconsistency. We're talking about who was having a better postseason One's a consistency matter

That's not what I'm talking about. I know it's not You don't care about the defense And you should. That's not what Moe would try to get me on. Moe was saying that I was that I was getting on AD's case and I'm saying

I got on him for something very specific And now if we take that specific criteria and transfer to Kyrie Irving, then it is different. And Kyrie is better in that single statistic than Anthony Davis. That's the only thing I was arguing. But you guys want to ride for your unibrow king and do all that and try to catch me on something that I said when I didn't say that. If your whole defense is I'm purposely not looking at the whole game of basketball, and it's a bad defense.

It's an irrelevant argument. It's an irrelevant argument. Bro, coming into the season, I literally was like, yo, Anthony, Davis is playing the best basketball that we've ever seen him because of his defense. We saw him play elite defense, probably the best defense that we've ever seen him play. I never said anything bad about that. My critique was always, if you are the number two on a team and you average 24, 25 in the regular season, can you put up 15 and back to back games?

Can you do that, please? And you want you discount the fact that he was putting up 30 and 11 because he was playing good defense. Good for you. Just the same way that we hold all the other. other elite players to certain standards, if you're Anthony Davis and you want to put them into the top 10, go ahead and do it in back-to-back games. That's all I was talking about. The point isn't that that's wrong. The point is that when we do that in comparison to other

players who have their own flaws, we exasperate ADs and pretend the strengths aren't there when that isn't necessarily held up for the comparison we're making. Because I'm talking about conversations we're talking about the past about AD compared to other guys. You're zeroing in on your AD complaint, and that's not the issue. It's the AD complaint in comparison to the conversation they were had about the complaints. I'm saying Moe tried to use that as a one-to-one when it was never a one-to-one. And you guys are trying to get me saying, oh, yeah, you're wrong. I'm not.

The only one-to-one that I'm touching on is just the seesaw that we've seen from Kyrie compared to Anthony Davis. Yeah, but we just took so many turns of argument to get here. And I'm saying, and I'm saying, originally the way I'm saying, Kyrie Seesaw has been less seesaw-ish then a seesaw's a seesaw, what are we talking about right now? I know, we're just quantified who's more inconsistent, whatever. It doesn't

matter. The original point was that you made a joke about Luca having a good teammate and then we were like, yeah, real great when he's up and down. And we took several left turns. Because I'm trying to get me. We got you. That's how to get me. This okay.

Anyway, that's all the rewards we got with a nice little side track. I think it's time for TikTok time. I'm not took their time i think it's time for producer corner there we go in the keel they tried to forget about you but i didn't the ticot eaters didn't this is our nekiel producer segment let's get into it please why you take it to a prayer that was so intense listen that's great so great at the transitions say that's why our father lord heaven i was gonna throw some some cool some cool other letter in front of it, but I was like,

eh, I can't think of a word right now. All right. It's praise and worshiping to kill. What's up, man? I, listen, I appreciate all this praise. Today's producer corner is kind of fun because we get to learn about you guys. Okay. I'll start off by saying this.

I'm going to bullshit a little as usual. I'm a student of the game. Okay. What sense? What game were talking? I was waiting for that. So we've been on a couple trips recently. You guys have probably seen this. I've made an earnest effort to up my fashion a little. I'm trying, all right? I used to just wear, you know, t-shirts and like bad-fitting shorts,

you know, mismatching socks. Nine and it seems. I see you. Exactly. Just forces. That was my go-to. All right. I'm trying to change up now, trying to work on my style. I think it's working. But I want to hear from you guys. As of today, how do you? did you guys get to where you are with your fashion I don't know what our swag no listen everyone has their go ahead and talk about it first yeah yeah I mean

for me I growing up in Atlanta like I was like oh I need all the Jordans and shit like that I forced my dad to buy me I forced my dad to buy me phone pauses that I only wore like twice three times and I never touched in

bitches again ever they were hard too kind of glue in the dark as well um but yeah now like growing up my swag has definitely evolved but i think the steepest turn happened when i moved to new york last year and i started like seeing people wearing just like the craziest things but not crazy in the sense of like wow like what they're wearing is crazy it's like wow like they're generally doing what they want to do wearing what they want to wear and they have a very good understanding of proportions and also like color schemes and dynamics and stuff like that so once i saw that i stole a lot of that and added in my bag i love that you're ready for this question you you be thinking about facts

so what i do what about like a shoe game and stuff like like that's like mainly clothing what about my shoes uh my shoe game i used to be in love with jordan's bro like i i was a sneaker head to the max i was a sneaker head who had no sneakers the worst type of sneaker head ever all i grew up bro i'm i'm average so i grew up with just wearing like sandals and stuff like that and that has just like came to my life again and you will never see me for the most part wearing shoes for real, bro. I just wear clogs in Birkenstocks all this time. Can you explain that a little bit for us? Can you explain the, explain the kinds of sandals you would wear? You said that you said that should be an assumption given that you're African. Can you explain

what that means a little bit? I mean, I just felt comfortable like with my toes out all the time when I was younger in fifth grade. Not in fifth grade. That's crazy, but like third grade. That may be That may sound crazier, but third grade, fourth grade, I had nothing but the toes out. It doesn't matter what the temperature was outside. Doesn't matter if it was raining. The toes were out. Nasty. And the dogs are breathing.

No socks in sight. Very gross. No socks at all, bro. No socks at all until I got suspended from school for a little bit from rain. You got suspended. What were you? Listen. Side track.

Anyways, I'm a Birkenstock type of person now. I wear clogs pretty much exclusively. or Docs. Okay. Doc Martin's. I put them on the clogs. Talk to me about some accessories. Shut up.

You're going to say this till I'm 50. No, you did it. All I know is I came up here one day early in the pie and I was like, yeah, I'm thinking about these clogs. I'm getting these brown ones. He was like, I like, I like those. Maybe I'll get them too. That's such cap.

One day, I'm going to go. Next time I'm going to go to your house. I'm stealing all your clogs and you're going to be like, oh, I'm clogless. What's going on? That's exactly like somebody who I put on the clogs and they try to reclass that's exactly what that that makes total sense of the lines Donovan how did just swag evolve to this point yeah tell us about your swag that's such a terrible word oh I don't know just watch a lot of TikTok and you just like you just

look at other people to have cool outfits and be like I like what they're wearing let me try and wear it and you just you just try stuff and like I don't know what What have you, like, experimented with, like, recently? That, like, kind of worked for you? Let's see. I think something that I've tried to get into and try to expand over the last, like, I guess, like six months or so is, like, wider leg pants. I was never really into that.

I, listen, I hung on to the skinny gene era way too long. I can attest to that. Yeah. that's disrespectful and you didn't have to say that you didn't you'd have to agree but yeah but I hung on to that a little bit too long and then I think in like December um and even before that I had got so I went to like Zara or something got some wide leg pants and I was like oh let me just try it and I don't know I've started to really like them so now a lot of my a lot of my pants that I have been buying have been more wider leg more

bag ear and so i saw somebody somebody said like once a year they'll try and go and buy a piece of clothing that they feel is like uncomfortable for them and so you'd like push your style that way and you kind of like push yourself to get out of your comfort zone and see what you like and what you don't like so that's something that i've tried to do but outside of that like that's that's really it do you mo what are you laughing at most mow's been giggling for the last 20 seconds No, I got a one of my best friends, Charlotte best friends, sent me a picture of me when I was like,

I think 13 years old and my swag is atrocious and I'm going to send a picture to the kill right now. It's hilarious. Send it to all of us. Now, the kills and put up on the screen, so we'll see it. Perfect. It'll let you know about my swag.

This is me growing up as, at this point in time, life was bad, bro. I look crazy as hell. You were fat. That looks a different person. Now, this is Terry. That's you? No, let's break this shit down.

Look at the shoe. One shoe is laced up. The other one is not. Got the high socks. What's on the right thigh? Elite Nike socks. What is going on? Snapback on the belt?

Okay. What is that snapback? It looks awful. What is all that pattern on it? It's like a New York snapback that I got when I went to visit my mom in New York like years ago at that point. That looks like a different person. That is not you. What the fuck?

Like 14 inch in T-shirts? Yeah, look. I got that honey from Foot Locker. That shit smell like ass. I used to wear it every single day. Long-ass cargos. You wear a caprice. Yeah, no, no one's appreciating the black and white shoe laces, though.

Because that's the first thing you said. That's the first thing I said. Oh, okay. Great, great, great. I tried my best to put that shit on. Also, question, what year did you get braces? uh 20 it's clearly after this picture 20 or 19 or something like that not even

bro i'm my can you zoom into his face for quick i am my mom with this that looks nothing like you yeah no yeah if we're doing like a guest the baby picture i wouldn't get this i would never guess this is you what the fuck i mean i can like honestly like from like the forehead shape and like you can kind of see it like okay cover up use your hand Cover up from the nose down and just look at like the eyebrows and forehead. That's a lot to cover up. Damn. I know.

Cover up that big ass lower half of the face. It looks nothing like you. Nah, you're chubby as hell. This crazy. The bottom life is a different guy, bro. This right here, this was me back in the days when I used to overdose and overindulge in crayons.

Overdose. In crayons. God. I was doing a lot of shit that was not good for me. Eating hot dogs, QT, slushies. eating talkies all the time and munchies that was my bag what are you ordered oh we don't want to get into that i'm getting i'm getting the biggest goddamn cute tea drink what's your what you

bodega order dogs and a tequito steaking cheese tequito from the guys tequitos just greed greed yep what's what's hilarious is those hot dogs they're called like a they're called like long johns i think or some shit like that do you eat in foot long gas station hot dogs i'm not a glizzy expert like you were i don't know the names no my bad i said hot dogs i'm meant to say donuts oh let's not get started on donuts the ones of cream in the middle yeah they're like chocolate greed greed it is what is oh and also i had that shit on my wrist too it was uh one of those power the power bands yes it would make you jump higher yeah yeah mow put this fit on early 2010 scam mo put this fit on early 2010 scam

fit on and he's like you know what good go great with this is some sandals now i was out of that phase did you lay this outfit out on your bed the night before like were you excited to wear it's his first day of school fit not even i slept with this outfit on you slept with him big ass garland shorts yeah i slept with those parachute pants okay i have to ask that i have to ask another question because everybody at a every boy from from like 12 years old to like 15 maybe even earlier you're wearing basketball shorts under your regular shorts did you i was too big for that you didn't do that i couldn't fit them yeah i was on kyle lary time i couldn't wear basketball shorts and my regular shorts bro i couldn't do it it wouldn't

work if i wore regular shorts i would look like a buffoon You told me in the past that you grew up a fat kid. I never believe. I don't know what I'm for some reason. Like, yeah, I thought you were being like, like, I thought you thought you were fat, but you're probably not really. And you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not, so different in the face. Yeah, you're not huge. You don't got like a giant belly, but just your face is so unbelievably different that, like, I can't comprehend this.

It's the teeth. Honestly, it's just fat baby face. Like, that's all. He just grew up. Yeah, exactly. No, I was generally big, too. Like, you can tell my. You see my belly poking out

You see like My chest is little Like saggy and long or whatever You're also 13 I don't expect muscle definition Yeah exactly exactly exactly Yeah this is a glow from hell That's hilarious Yeah

Well that's a good producer corner We got a deep dive into the past Mo I got to find an old picture I'm willing to show you guys And we got to do this for all of us eventually I'll find old Oh I have old middle school pictures of me in football

it's a football I think I have my phone I'll find it someone yeah I'm dissect it now next one no I'll say it for next week

I have one where it's like a card when you get take pictures where you're like middle school teams and they sell like the photo packages

one's like supposed to look like a trading card and it's me like doing these hilarious poses it's great I got another picture of myself I had like this super

big blocky print basketball start that said stay fresh on and off the court and it was like hot pink yellow and baby blue whatever

That's a Piquin Nike shirt. Never stop working. It was disgusting. Yeah. Work never finishes. Those vibes. Disgusting. Well, that's a great producer corner.

Let's talk about one more topic before TikTok time. All right, so let's talk about the Lakers. You know, everybody's favorite topic. Normally, Lakers' conversation around this time of the year is forced. But today we have something interesting talk about. Because over the last couple weeks, really over the last week especially, it seemed like a near certainty that J.J. Reddick was going to be the new head coach of the Lakers.

Shams Serraniah had, I think three days ago now, tweeted out an article that said they are close to finalizing a deal to make him their coach. Which seemed to me like he was saying, shit's done, we just can't say it until the finals are over. But trust me, I'm telling you now it's done.

I was like, okay, we talked about on the stream last week, or not this past stream, but we were talking about it. I was like, okay, as a Lakers fan, I see the vision. I'll be hope it's a pleasant surprise. But then Adrian Wojeraussi came from the top rope today and said,

Fuck all that shit. They're going for Dan Hurley, Yukon coach, back-to-back champion. What was y'all's first reaction? Shams, your legacy is on the line, my brother.

That's my first reaction. No, it was just, he said, fuck all that sham shit. The whole time they wanted this guy actually. Meet the Shams.

Big change. The last, the last year for Shams has really had some questionable stuff. But, I mean, listen,

if it's Dan Hurley, shout out to Dan Hurley, it makes it makes sense from everything that was talking about you saying that you know the lakers were really trying to build a program and especially now that the NBA is moving towards like the second apron and you can't just go out and you know pay three superstars and then automatically you're going to have a championship team you need to develop your young guys your role players and stuff like that having a college coach that's his job is to develop a program that makes sense so i don't hate it it's encouraging yeah

It's been reported that he's 50-50 on joining. So we'll see if he wants to or not. But it looks like if he wants to, they're going to hire him. And I think it would be an interesting hire because just off of experience, obviously he's two-time champion. He's had all these years of experience already coaching college basketball at the highest, the highest levels over JJ Redis. So it wouldn't be a bad hire whatsoever. A lot of people are making fun of this because I remember a couple. I think it was in some JJ Reddick episode that he filmed with the actual coach himself.

LeBron comments under or he tweeted under. He was like, yo, Dan Hurley, such a great exes and nose guy and blah, blah, whatever. And a lot of people are going back and fighting that screenshot and they're just making fun of it. But it's like genuinely true. He's, if you take just two minutes out of your day to watch Yukon's offense and compared to any other college basketball team, it's like cave my caveman brain versus. this man brain in like 2024 like it's night and day and they do a lot of off-law screening normal a lot of motion offense stuff similar to the warriors to the point that they have guards come into the draft like Stefan Castle this year and we're like

while we got to see him another team that doesn't have the gift of Dan Hurley's offense it's going to be an entirely different world because he makes life so much easier for these guys that it makes us have to view these prospects differently you know a lot of times coaches get hired from college in this way and people immediately go like Listen, are they going to listen to these guys? Do NBA players want to get barked at by a coach who's just talking to kids? Is it going to be John Calipari all over again, all this stuff? It's different when the guy is also great X and O's.

You don't often see that with these college coaches that get a chance. It's more like a Brad Stevens who has both. Yeah. Yeah. And for the Lakers, hiring Dan Hurley, and this is purely just from a fan perspective in an outsider perspective, your credibility level goes up because then you don't even have to deal with. the narrative with the conversation of,

oh, LeBron, pick JJ as the head coach, his, you know, his podcast partner. You don't, that's out the door. That's out the window. And it's, yeah, instead of LeBron's podcasting partner, we're going to bring in a back-to-back national champion to be our head coach. And it just makes a little bit more sense. I feel like a lot more people can buy into that. And for a role as high profile as the Lakers head coach,

that it goes a long way, you know. I, uh, as a Lakers fan, I had convinced me, myself on JJ Reddick because the other names in the conversation were James Borrego and I figure who else not very inspiring names that would excite me in any way so I was like all right I can buy that maybe JJ Redick is this brilliant coach waiting for the opportunity it is weird to give him a job coaching a should be contender right away with no experience but at least I can see an upside right so I wasn't like hating it but you got to like it more to bring in a coach with this much experience with this much cachet from the reporting it sounds like they

realized, like you said, Donovan, they got to build a program. They got to stop filtering in all these young coaches and short-term coaches. They got Vogel because they couldn't get Tailu because they tried to cheap him out. Then they fire him, bring in Darvin Ham. Before that, was Luke Walton. You know, it's a constant carousel and new guys. Nobody having enough success to be there for the long run. They want the opposite.

They want stability for a decade. They want to have a guy that can really be the next great Lakers coach. And it's obviously a safer bet to bring somebody who knows how to build a program like that rather than a guy who's never done before. Yeah. It's interesting because the turnout rate for college coaches coming into the NBA and having a good amount of success is like, bleh. Obviously, you just mentioned his name a couple of minutes ago. Brad Stevens, he's one of the greatest or one of the better cases of all time. But in recent history, like thinking before that, I think of like guys like Billy Donovan, and I don't know how to assess him because, eh, hasn't really

done much in the NBA and he's just really like one of those middle of the pack type coaches you know and then before that like who else were talking about good guy another bulls head coach fred hoidberg remember him yeah but again it's a little different because like fred hoiberg his whole thing is i'm gonna yell at you i'm gonna inspire men i'm gonna make boys into men all this shit that's a lot of these coaches i don't really know billy don'tman's whole thing like that to tell you exactly but hurley is a really smart ex-and-nose guy plus that so that's why you hope he's a little bit different and also those guys you mentioned were good coaches that got the job for reason,

this is a back-to-back champion. You know, this is like the most prestige version of that. So hopefully that can also give you some confidence that will work better. This is the more professional pick for sure. This is because Dan Hurley when he has to scheme against Yokic instead of psychology majors.

Yeah, it's also interesting that, Donovan, you talked about how it kind of ducks the allegations of LeBron owning the team, essentially. LeBron and clutched from every opportunity. opportunity they can, every, any report that I was talking to, they're saying that LeBron wants nothing to do with the coach hire, that he has been completely hands off and is telling them, don't, report today said, he's telling them, don't prioritize me, prioritize AD. Seems like LeBron is like not one of those allegations at all. Listen, we know conversations

are always had. And so, like, I'm not going to be like, oh, yeah, like, LeBron's a line. He's capping. But, I mean, that, You can tell a front office, don't prioritize me. You're still LeBron James. So even if he's not telling them, hey, I want this guy, I want this guy. I do feel like there probably is a certain part of the Lakers front office. So it's like, all right, we should probably figure out if whoever we're hiring is going to be a good fit with LeBron. Even if we think that he only has, what, two, three years left in our uniform.

Yeah. And that's what's cool about this hire is he, I guess the ideal is he's best at both worlds. Dan Hurley. I assume he's going to be competent of basketball-wise to be a make a good team around LeBron AD. We know he knows what he's doing there.

We'll see if the leaderships of translates to the NBA. That's always because question mark college coaches, obviously. But I like that. Listen, you said LeBron is two or three more years. Max.

80's 31. This time next year, obviously it'll be 32 going to next year's playoffs. He turns 32 in March. How many more elite years does he have left? Three full seasons maybe?

Before, after that, he has to be like more of a second option guy with whoever's next. even if we get the best version of what's left of these two guys three years max of them together probably being top tier you got to start building for the future and this is a guy that can be present and future which for a team of the lakers who have been run incompetently for a long time to make that type of recognition and realize they need to build something

rather than try to buy something every year hugely encouraging it's a really inspired move if it happens it's also what you do when you're some broke boys if you're the Lakers, get your money up, right? Go out, spend some dollars. That's what they're trying to do. They said they're going to have to hire him with a bag to make a week of Yukon. Yeah. It's going to be like six years, a hundred million dollars. It's going to be crazy. And it's going to be well deserved. It's going to be well deserve as well.

All that makes sense. And I'm happy that the Lakers are finally moving in this direction to actually build like real legitimacy and trying to build like real culture there. But at the same time, too. It's going to be funny because I like the reaches. I like them making fun of LeBron. They probably just went ahead and looked at LeBron's Twitter and see what he said, all the positive good things he said about coaches, players, and all that.

And they're going to make sure crack all around him. It's funny. I hope he doesn't say no. I would still be okay with JJ Redick as clearly he's probably the backup option. I hope it's Dan Hurley. I'm fine either way, but Dan Hurley makes a lot of sense and I can definitely, as a fan, I can put a lot of faith behind that and be excited about that going forward.

Someone like Dan Hurley has absolutely nothing to lose if he does accept this job. If he go horribly, terribly, and they fire him within two years, he can always go back to college and they're going to accept him with wide open arms. For JJ Redick, if he was to take this job, I don't know how many more opportunities he's going to get. He's probably going to be on someone's coaching staff if this does happen or he's going to be podcasting so. Yeah, that's a good point. For JJ Redick, I mean, this job, nobody's in turn down coaching the Lakers. like we talk about it being a really difficult job and all this stuff you're still coaching the lakers you're going to do it if you're a coach you're not going to say no to that job

but it's good for him that if he ducks this and eventually he's going to get a coaching job it's good for him to be able to develop without that much scrutiny facts yeah exactly as a person who loves as a person who loves agendas and jokes I kind of want JJ hire yeah I just want I just want to laugh I just want to laugh throughout this season that's it I'm so torn like what I want as a fan because like his presence in media is so positive in an NBA media landscape that doesn't have a lot of positive

in the biggest voices a lot of detrimental damaging voices to discourse so it's nice to have him be a positive point there so I kind of want him to stay in media but listen he wants to be a coach he's going to be a coach the memes are already rolling out bro they're absolutely hilarious I'm saying to kill this one meme

um he's a he's a podcaster bro And so I just imagine if they If Shams does end up coming back From 3-1 and eclipsing Wolves and his reporting skills or whatever The music can be rolling for days Yeah but Steve Kerr was a play that play announcer

You know it's just new media is podcasting instead of only being broadcast It's the same thing we've seen in the past Pat Riley was a broadcaster before I got hired I forget Steve Kerr was a broadcasting out here man That's that he ran a team Steve Kerr? Yeah He was an assistant GM right yeah but like he was

he was like in an organization for sure which matters to some extent different job than coaching we know and you know they're both pretty experience being in an NBA locker room I think there's experience to be had there but it is something yeah all right

we'll see that's Lakers talk I think it's time for TikTok time let's ship you guys back to yesterday and give you what you've been waiting for ground eaters gear up and let's get ready to munch Woo!

Welcome to TikTok time, and for the first time in about a month or so, I can say we are starting with the draft. Woo! Well, rejoice. Listen, you know, we had to come back with a little remix. We took a little bit of time off. We're here again, and I'm ready. I'm preparing this time.

And that remix is we're combining drafting with those graphics everybody posts on sports media that's like you got $15 to make a lineup and we have this whole grid of players. We're doing that while drafting. So it's going to add a little element of strategy Since there's only so many steals and so many players you got your eye on Somebody might snatch it from you Let's go Not only do you have to be strategic on a basketball sense

But you have to be a mathematician Put your hat on the guys That's hard The dummy between the three of us I mean we're counting the 15 Like come on like That's day two of kindergarten But real simple

Draft order is Donovan, me, Mo You guys see on the top half of the screen We have what is this is 20 players with an assigned value one through five. We all got $15 to spend. Donovan, who was our first pick? With my first pick, I would like to have the most important African man in my life. Give me OG and an OB, $3. Okay. The most important. Okay. Wow. I see it. What about me? What the hell? I just thought I was a shock to me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. OG has done much more for my happiness than you have. All right. I'm going to remember that.

RIP the hamstring. I would like Christop's Porzingis in my first pick for $4. That's good. You secure that stretch five early. Christops Prasinus. Okay. That's great. So for my first pick, give me a great value pick.

For $2, give me Jonathan Isaac. I knew you were going to do that. Can't trust. Yeah. I needed them. I needed him. I needed him. Needed a great value pick.

Okay, so I got Jonathan Isaac for due for $2. Alongside Jonathan Isaac, go ahead and give me Desmond Bain for $3. Great value pick again. Okay. So Desmond Bain and, damn, they're both. You guys get the two wings I want it. Damn, exactly. We're going clear and shopping right now.

I like this. That's the first aisle I hit on God. You know, give me Kyle Kuzman. for two dollars on my small forward okay need some length okay okay i like this i like this one big on big all right at my let's see let's see let's see let's get away let's get away from clearance we're going shopping i'm dropping a bag for five dollars i don't listen i don't really like this guy but he is the best player on this list give me joel and b five dollars bad news for you we're playing in the finals during this game so he's not going to be the best player on his list dang

That's tough. That's tough. Should have accounted for that. That's okay. You know what? Give me the real best player on this list. Give me Jason Tatum for $5. Oh, for you're a next to the end.

It's not your turn. Hold your horses, buddy, down. It's not your turn. He's so excited. Yeah, it's fine. At $3, right? And what I want to do is move OG to my 4 because we're going to put Michael Porter Jr. at my 3 for $3. Wow.

Okay. Now we strategize. guys and for real. Okay. Okay. Okay. Interesting. Hmm. It's been 11. Can't do that actually. Exactly. Michael is the three. Interesting. Let's get. Let's get the calculators out. There's been strategy involved here. Okay. Mm-hmm. You know what? Do I want to pick him? I think he do. I think he do want to pick me. Give me Jason Taney for $5. I'll take it. I got to buy something expensive pair him with his favorite white man Chris Os Porzingis let's do it

it's not a bad pick at all it's not a terrible pick huh so you got Tatum and you got Prozingis I spent $5 so far so that means I got $10 more to spend

good job his tears are so interesting good math I said if Mo has I'm teaching the crown is everything not only Johnny has five apples. Oh my God.

Okay. I think I want to go ahead and select. Ah, none of these picks are appetizing to me right now. Who the hell's going to pick John and the Kaminga? Not me. I'm just going to go ahead and get me a star already. Go ahead and give me John Morant. I need this

Finally got your star Okay And Bain is a tried and true combination I understand Yeah It's proven And then Alongside Jha

I think I can Tough Yeah it is It is tough I think for $2 Go ahead and give me Terry Rose year

Damn it That's tough Give me Give me Terry Give me tear for $2 Damn. Move Bain to my three and I got Terry for $2.

Ooh, who can I even pick now to complete a lineup? I'm stuck with some terrible options. Oh, man. I am not a fan of this. You know what? Give me Russell Westford for $1. No! Yeah. I need someone who can pass the ball well. All he has to do is I have to go out there

to be Ricky Rubio. He can do it. There's something left in that tank. this is not okay this is not okay not okay not having fun anymore not having fun all right

well listen can I can I take Jalen Brunson for $4 you can't because you gotta fill another spot

and then can I put the NASA's antennae coupo at my two for zero is that allowed right what are we doing can I go off the green

can we barter right Carrey Farton. Now you gotta fill the lineup wherever you can You better start making some picks This is tough This is tough

At my two Give me Give me Zach Levine Fuck Yeah Okay All the $3 are gone

Yeah Isaac Sing it with me Sing come bucket with me Please Now my god I only have I only have a dollar to spend and it looks like for this is awful I don't want to do it

but this guy's the best passer in the one dollars are on you right now there's a guy there who's the guy that's wearing the blue jersey I want him I know he could pass a little bit I don't know I can't see what's the name I don't I don't know we don't have names on here I just see the jersey he's wearing a he's wearing a blue jersey he has like you know just like long hair what's his i don't think i understand oh okay i don't yeah i don't know but there's yeah there's a guy in a blue jersey it looks like it's all my god you ain't being those allegations but we see on the team bro i i don't i can't pick a three dollars it filled fifteen dollars so i only two dollars i got to pick john the kremy guy guys then mo me five no venmo me fifty dollars

and i'll give you a dollar and i'll sell my yeah go fucking son, how about that? I'm a hustler. A bad one. A bad one. Oh my God. This sucks. Bro, you got Russ Kuzma Kaminga.

Ew, what's on with all the K's going on? Hold on. You have an agenda? Here's D-Ks. What is going on? We try to tell you guys about Isaac. You don't listen. Oh, my God.

You are not helping your case whatsoever. You did that. Oh, we're looking at Mo. Mo, why are we ignoring the fact that Mo $3 left and there's only one player that he can afford. Who am I going to pick? So I can't get no Russell Westbrook. You'd be a great center, you know?

Like, he's been, you know what I'm going to be. Pick a center. The only bigs that are left are Jared Allen too expensive. Can't afford him. He's $4.00 should be worth three, but I digress. Then, what? You know, Pick him.

You want me to pick him so bad, but I don't want to do. You have one option. Take the pick, man. I don't want to say his name. Why? What the fuck? He didn't do anything. Oh, my God, bro.

All right, you know what I'm going to do? Screw that, actually. We're going to play smaller. So I want to move Jonathan, I just put him at my five. He got hell of length. He's like 6-11, crazy wingspan, and then give me Keldon Johnson. at the four for a singular dollar. You got Desmond Bain as your second biggest player.

Hey, don't underestimate those bison. They're going to put in some work on the court. Yeah, you're getting, Jason Tatum is playing whoever offense on everybody on your team besides Johnson, Isaac. Oh, yeah, right, bro. You never seen To raise in the playoffs. Mac and cheese. Brazos, too.

But my question is, who is stopping me on that end? Four is wide open. is a threat. No. I. Yeah. Your team has Russell Westberg

and Das Gideas their starting point guards. Do not talk to me. So my team is Russell Westbrook, Jason Tatum, John, I mean,

Kyle Kuzma, John de Kaminga, and Christos Porzingis. In my team, I got to do that place for Oklahoma City, Zach Levine, Michael Porter,

Jr., O. Jinn and O.J.N.O.B., Joelle M. Okay, so Donovan wins. Your team functions the best for sure So I got John Morant Terrosier Desmond Bain

Keldon Johnson and Jonathan Isaac Donovan is the only decent team here My team functions perfectly bro No your team is not You're getting no rebounds Defending nothing interior Jonathan Isaac is fighting for his life Like primary to go bare

Your team is fucked Fighting for his life Oh my God bro I gotta put you on at some Jonathan Kaminga tape Or Jonathan Isaac tape Yeah, John Lise is great I didn't put you on some Terry Rizier Tate

But it won't be pretty on defense John Thomas he was fantastic For 15 minutes a game He's great Exactly So yeah Donald everyone You guys Comments you tell us

Who got second place Because these teams suck ass Tragic Next thing we're gonna do We're gonna do another blind ranking You know we did this two weeks ago With coaches And you guys did as good of a job

As you could hope for Probably our best blind ranking yet Today we're going to blind ring shooting guards See if you guys can do as well Let's run it back Let's get the back to back going low I like multiple championships This is what I do

Anybody can do it for the first time But can you do it again And do it again And do it again and do it again That's what it's about Anybody can get it The hard part is keeping it Yeah

If you know you know So real simple I'm gonna name five NBA shooting guards you guys at a blind rank them without knowing who's coming next. 1 through 5. Okay. First off, Anthony Simons. He's a solid like four, I believe.

Yeah. Start off great to the season. But there's better shooting guards out there. Okay. Fair enough. Clay Thompson. Five. Put Clay Thompson at five.

I'm sorry. Easy five. I'm sorry, Clay. You guys feeling these bottom two spots that fast? sadly yeah if you listen you played the way clay Thompson played you're getting that last spot I'm sorry it's not much you don't think you'd help a contender more than Anthony Simons no I don't they probably help at the same amount to be on to them no respect for veteran leadership unbelievable Devin Booker could be one now do you think

that he has Anthony Edwards or Donna and Mitchell also on this list he for sure has one of those guys on this list okay so i if if that's the case that i think we should put debon booker at two two's perfect who's disrespecting my latino king who's latino oh devon it's a mexican right there kCP perfect three that's a perfect three that's a perfect three and free sandwich is probably better but it's okay word I mean, you, you want to win a championship. Anthony Simons on a team than KCP? It depends on how your team is looking like, but

Anthony team that has stars good enough to win a championship. I'd rather have KCP, I think. 100%. Sure. Number one. Y'all, I'm not cheating. It's written down. Number one, we have Jordan Poole.

All right. So we played ourselves. It's fine. You know what? Look, we'll get back in the lab. You know, sometimes now Sometimes you step back onto the court It's not your best night

If we saw Jordan Poole If Jordan pulled up to his potential And expectation Maybe this list would be Not as acid is right now But sadly it's garbage There's no world in the multiverse Where he had more potential than Devin Booker

This is crazy Jordan Poole really should be at 5 And we have that You do Clay Thompson real fast Real loose with your bottom spots He was bad starting this list off with Anthony Simons and Clay Thompson's hilarious

You should put Anthony at three That was crazy I felt like they're No, I like our team Mitches and Anthony Edwards On this list so I was like Yeah, four safe Yeah

Terrible job once again Good job guys The next thing we're gonna do We're gonna make The Mount Rushmore of NBA trash talkers Okay Okay So there's a lot of famous

Trash Talkers throughout the years we're going to pick the four guys that best represent the history of the NBA to go on Mount Rushmore of having the wildest mouths. Okay, gotcha. Let's run it. So off the top, who is the craziest mouth

in NBA history? I got an answer. Who is it? Kevin Garnett. He is easily the worst. Yeah, definitely. The shit he said is vile. And that's just what we have on record.

Who knows what else he said? If he... All right. Yeah, no. See it. I'm sorry, my bad, my bad. I'm focused again, I'm focused again. We got, okay, I'm with, I'm with Kevin Garnett.

Larry Byrd has to be on this list. Larry Bird, that's fair. If you, a little. Exactly, right? A little, you know, DEI pick. But if you heard what people say about Larry Byrne, Larry Bird was talking crazy to people. So I'm going with Larry.

Okay. He's the OG at this. I respect that. Okay. I feel like there's some, somebody, there's more people from the 90s. I thought the 90s is obviously the golden era of trash talk. But do we want to go like a Dremont Green?

Nah, sorry. No, no. I mean, he's more violent than trash talk. Like, he's the best of his era, but it's like a Mickey Mouse era compared to past. What he said to Paul Pierce put him on the map in terms of trash talking. That was good. That was good. That was classic.

Did you put a little Charles Oakley in here? I can't. No. I think also, I think be a. a good part of being a trash talker is also being like a great player because then you could tell people like oh I'm about to do this to you

and then you go ahead and do it you can't be you know on the bench you can't be Mr. Enforcer that's your job right your job is just to fight but it's not necessarily to talk so I'd go with like a Gary Payton maybe on this list Gary Payton was a trash talker like that

100% we'll see more of a trash stalker than Patrick Beverly was he more of trash talker than Michael Jordan You're right I think MJ needs to be on this list Listen They

Listen they could talk this Those in circles Right You get Michael Jordan And Gary Payton in the same room Infinite mouth It's just It's just

What do you mean Neither of them Would beat the other It's just Okay I think Jordan has to be on there Yeah This was the last spot

To Peyton Wasn't in there Do we get the last spot to Payton Or is somebody else Listen Kobe Kobe would learn different languages to Trash Talk That's that's a different level of a hater in you bro

I ain't a lot exactly Do we go all stars like surely there's some lower tier players That we're running that mouth Patrick Beverly is right there bro Patrick Beverly is a menace he's not listen We are not putting him on we are not putting Patrick Beverly on mouth to Rushmore that's not what's happening Mouth Rushmore

It's not what's happening Okay Listen Kobe would Trashog his own teammate Does I give him points or take points away? Gives him points. All right, then he's on there. There you go. Kobe's a four spot.

Let's go. I like this. Anybody can get it with Kobe. It was. Anybody in the other team, Smush Parker, Shaq, there was no bounds

that were not willing to be crossed for trash talking. Yeah, if you are soft like Sherman, Kobe would have let you know. You'll find out. Exactly. There you go.

Who else? I feel like we're missing people. Like, wasn't Rashid Wall. us a big trash talking? True. Yeah. Believe so, yeah.

Damn. Listen, there's only, there's only four spots. And we've had a lot of mouthy people come through the NBA. It is what it is. Some people are just going to get left off. I'm sorry. There we go. Next thing we're going to do, let's talk about the offseason that's coming up.

You know, this episode's coming out the day after game one in the finals, but we're recording a couple days early. And it's been a week of just thinking about the future because, you know, there's a week off between conference finals and finals. So I've been thinking a lot about what teams are broken I need to fix it this summer It's surely going to be a crazy summer With the new CBA stuff coming up

So what I'm going to do today is I'm going to name NBA teams And I want you to name one player You want to see them trade for this summer Okay Yeah so we'll keep it specific to trade It's not like draft or anything like that Gotcha that's perfect

Well transaction transaction talk First team The Oklahoma City Thunder I need to see these guys you need to make a deal and get Kelly Olinic in the building. Yeah, that's an attainable player. Yeah.

Everybody always says live marketing, which would be great, probably not possible. Kelly Olinic should be available and should be a thunder. You had your chance in the middle of the season to go back up your bigs.

You didn't want to do it. You went for Gordon Hayward, right? That was your big bet. Wrong way. Sorry, Sam Presti. You lost. You lost. Go address your actual weakness.

Get Kelly Ellenick. Then you'll pick a couple quarters back in the NBA white boy machine and pick somebody else. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Hmm. Also, Jonathan Isaac would be cool if he's available. Him and Chet would be insane.

That could never happen. That could never happen, bro. The NBA would need to be, the Oklahoma City would need to be like nerfed, seriously, if that happened. John Isaac and getting in the same locker room, what could go wrong? A whole lot.

Next to you, the Golden State War. years? Anybody, anything at this point. Listen. Should have been past Gossiakran, but they weren't serious. Now, make the deal that everybody wants to see. Spend the block. Get Kevin Durant on this roster. You have one opportunity to save Steph Curry's career in Golden State. You do whatever it takes. And you let Kevin know, we miss you. We took you for granted. Come back to the bay. On topic, KD, fuck it. Let's go all out with the old head tour, get LeBron on that squad. See, LeBron, it would be so nasty, but I kind of want to see it happen.

I don't know why. I want to say a Laker, but if he's going to lead Lakers, going to the Warriors, it would just be funny. It would be the most dominant run of Old Head we've ever seen in our lives, bro. Okay, we're swinging for the fences of the Warriors. I understand. The Lakers. Bro. Y'all don't have to do anything.

I don't want to see them prosper. What? You guys are good. No trades for y'all. Man, fuck that. Donovan Mitchell, welcome to Los Angeles. We're giving them Reeves. We're giving them whoever else they want from the roster.

Three first-owned picks. We're bringing our guy to Los Angeles. Boo. I know why. That is hitting hard as hell because I agree with you. Donovan Mitchell will fix so much with that team. And if they swing and they miss there, I don't hate DeJonte Murray if it's really cheap,

but it probably won't be. It's okay If it's not to Johnson Murray Darius Garland is knocking on your front door And you'll be very happy with that There's gonna be a lot of teams I'll bless above There's probably people we're not thinking about

They're gonna be super available Like I'm looking at the teams They're not gonna be upper tier contenders It's gonna be a crazy Austin I think people realize How many players are gonna make Like crazy moves It's gonna be wild

Like what role players are gonna be available I'm looking right now Role players KCP Potentially Oh, bring KCP back No he doesn't get paid by somebody. He's going to get, drop a bag in free agency. A team like the Orlando Magic and give him 35 Ms a year.

I wonder that'd be crazy. That'd be nuts. Who's going to be a seller though, players? A seller. Back to the Thunder. I would love to see Kelly Linnock on the Lakers as well. I think him and AD would be amazing. I like that food.

I like that food. He would be great. To be honest with you, too. Nah, never mind. Bad idea. Next team. the Milwaukee bucks what can they possibly do yeah who can they trade for they can probably chair for you donovan to be honest with you they are I mean I'll shoot up I'll suit up if you need me

maybe uh five minutes where's Alex up to Nacoupa playing right now where's costas playing I think Alex is in the G league right now bring him bring him home bring him back to Milwaukee we're trading a couple of second round picks for him this team would be so much better if they had someone like a t j mccan on this t j mccanel on the squad a lot of teams of me yeah sure he's not available though sadly not yeah listen somebody who is available they need they need to make sure that they're maximizing damin lillard whatever you have to do whatever transaction you have to make to get go relative move to milwaukee oh my gosh you make that deal you know what i'm saying there you go next up the alana hawks

It's 95 degrees. The Atlanta Hawks. Now we need it. We need a shooting guard. One of those guards. One of those guards has to go. Alex Arsman added to the front court. Bring Brandon Ingram to Atlanta.

Let's be mid some more, but let's be mid. That makes sense. How do you feel about that? You know, attach Herb Jones into that conversation and we could get talking. But if Herb Jones is not in it, then I'm hanging up the phone. As soon as you say Herb Jones I'm hanging up the phone I'm not doing

I'm calling the cops Exactly The Jean-Termary out Brandon Ingram in We're gonna make sense We're gonna have an athletic big For Trey Young A wing that can compliment them

All will be well They'll once again be a six seed The Taint Yeah Hey I'll take a six seat Then I tent seat any day And you sir And you sir are thinking

Exactly like the Chicago Bulls Next up The New World Orleans Pelicans. Shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting. What point guard? What point guard do you want? There's a whole lot.

Again, Darius Garland. He is going to love the gumbo that nuance has to offer. He's going to love it. He's going to put him on. Exactly. Listen, a hot pot of gumbo in December when it's cold. Oh, my goodness. Darius Garland is going to be fantastic.

He's going to be so happy in the words. Listen, the Timberwolves are going to have to make something happen because their payrolls going to be ridiculous. They're going to be a second apron team. I don't think they're going to trade cat, but could they trade Nas Reid? Wow. Can we snatch Nasreid away from them? Bring them. Nah. No, there's too many.

They're going to have money problems soon. You know, if they do have money problems. They already have money problems. Why? It's going to get worse. Why not get rid of C.J. McCollum and bring in a vet? Why couldn't they sign James Hardin? That'll be nice. He'll fix so much

on the team. That's a girthy-ass team. Amazing. He would be amazing on that team. Zahn and Hardin pick and roll. Zahn might hate playing next to Hardin now. The chefs in New Orleans just went crazy. They said Harding and Zion. I'm hearing they'll eat the table.

That's a crazy Stephen A. Smith quote. What are the wildest things ever said? It's so good. It's so good. Chefs love them. They're looking for them. Like, looking for them is crazy. The way she goes to call people that size, bro, oh my God.

No, but they need a big. Jonas Banchunis is not going to be here long. If they're not going to draft that big, who would you want to say to bring in? Why do you say that? I don't know. He's insane. Again, every team, Kelly Olinick, bring him in. Kelly Linnis needs to be on every single contender.

Yeah, exactly, because the free agent big class is not good at all. Like, they can't pull off to bring in someone like Nick Claxton. If so, that would be amazing. But I don't know how interested he is in New Orleans. You want a little Nicole. Levosovich action? Nicole of Ew!

It's a stretch five. Well, it used to be a stretch five. He has a three in like two years. Yeah, he's a phony one. Hey, man, let's try it. Let's try it. Let's see what happens. Clincapella?

He's probably available. I mean, he'd be once again. Let's try it. Why not? What do we have to do? He's even an 8th seat this year. Like, it's okay.

They need some kind of big that they'll fit a little bit better with Zion. It doesn't necessarily got to be a spacer, but it has to be somebody who can fill that space better than Yonzoon Ches as low as. Yeah. Okay, next team. The San Antonio Spurs. Darius. You put anyone.

Trey Young. Mike Colley, Derek, or any point guard, right? Any point guard that plays in the NBA, I'm calling and I'm asking about them. If you can get somebody in, in that organization, who knows how to throw an entry pass, a lob, can look in Victor Wenabas direction. You are on the team.

And that's why, Tyos Jones, congratulations. You will be taking your brother's spot and you'll be the new starting point guard for the San Antonio Spurs. Taking your brother's job is nasty. That's tough.

I hope they draft the point guard. If they don't, they got Tyos Jones all written all over them. Maybe DeAnzlo Russell, that wouldn't be a terrible fit. Deal, we can't be bad at all. If I was James Hardin' now, I would run my ass to San Antonio and all them churals in a heartbeat.

If I was Chris Paul, I'd run my ass to San Antonio. He can't, he can't run. You know his head. You know his head. I would take a belabor to jog to San Antonio. That man is on the megabus to San Antonio. The mega bus. Priority seating, though, because he does have money.

A lot of money. Exactly. All right. Next team, Chicago Bulls. God, where do I even start with this team? At this point, I don't care who they get in the building. I just know. No, no, no, no, no.

I just know, no, no, no. I just know, DeMarrozen can't be on this team. Zach Levine has to get, like, it's more about them making trades and just getting those guys as far away from Chicago as possible. Just restart. Yeah. Listen, I got guys for you and listen to the names that I'm about to name for you right now. Tell me, talk to me.

You will start to notice some traits. All right, Markell Fultz, Gary Payne the third, or the second, Gary Payne the second, okay? Jetty Osmond, Isaac Akoro. Those are the type of guys that they should surround this roster with, and they'll finally start to tank. Think of the worst players ever. Worst players available, and the decision will be made in Chicago Bulls fans' lives will be so much better. Yeah, you're right. They should trade for Thanassas who has a torn ACL because they need a tank for Cooper Flag.

Yeah, exactly. Reggie Jackson, throw him a bag. Torian Prince, throw him a bag. Mason Pummey, throw him a bag. James Wiseman, get ready to speak Portellos. He would eat. Eat my table. Next team.

The Miami Heat. Can we get Donovan Mitchell here? Can we get Zach Levine here? Can we get? I see, no, I don't want Bradley Bill. Those are really the main two guys. Give me give me yeah, this team is exactly we're not over it exactly apparently has a lower trade value than expected a lot of teams are steering clear Miami feels like a team that would be like I can fix them

They don't do have they do have that about about them they are like low-key like pigneys and just like They want every star ever they haven't been with a real team before like Like he feels a real strength of conditioning program That's hilarious. Did you go ahead and get the better version of Brendan Haywood? I said Brendan Haywood. What the hell? What's crazy?

Brendan Hayward, what the hell? What the fuck are you talking about? I said Brendan Haywood. You did. That is crazy. My mind is fried. Anyways, go ahead and get a better version of, what's that dude's name? I forget.

Haywood Highsmith. Haywood Highsmith, there we go. Get a better version of Hayward Highsmith. and go ahead and pick up Royce O'Neill. Solidify your team a little bit more. Their status. I don't think he's available, but if he was, every team could use him. Yeah, he's available.

He's going to be free. He didn't. All right. Next team. Last team. Do Orlando Magic. It's not necessarily a trade, but like there's just one name. You just have to take all the bags of money that you have and throw it up.

And that player is Malik Monk. Get him in the building. Do not. I repeat one. Orlando. Do not go for Clay Thompson. Do not be full. Mo, mo, mo, mo. Cover your ears. Trigger warning. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Hell no. It's never happening. If you want it to happen. Phil. Palo Franz is a perfect combination. Disgusting if you ask me. They all the size in the world to hide him on defense. All the play finishers to let Tray Young

set them up and be the better passing I've ever seen before. It makes all the same. sense in the world. Trey Young doesn't like the weather over there in Orlando. Trey Young thinks there's not enough to do over there in Orlando, okay? I know because I got his reps on my phone. Trey Young is not a free agent. I don't give a shit what he likes. Trey Young also is from Oklahoma.

What do you mean there's not enough to do in Orlando? Come on, man. He better get season passes to Disney World. He's going to have to learn to like it. Someone else. Who's someone else who could fit in Orlando? Oh. Donovan Misson will be

Donovan Mission Trade there will be dope as well It should be an option It'll be nasty as hell Because they lost to them or whatever But it'll be cool Not true young No That's the last year we had

Next thing we're gonna do You know I had you guys guess NBA teams by their memes A couple weeks ago We're funny I liked it Today you guys are gonna have to guess NBA teams By the countries their players are from So you'll see flags on these

instead of jokes or colleges, whatever. The game is international. The twist is. This would be too easy if it was all current teams. So these teams are from all of NBA history. Wow. Oh, we might get cooked to you for real. You're going to be fried.

I wish I had a map on my wall so bad right now. I'll tell you teams if you can't think the flag. I don't want a big bad radio. But, yeah, it's not all from this year. They're all from throughout NBA history. Okay. It's going to be hard. For simple.

Guess the NBA team by their countries. First off, which team is this? A big man who's from Germany, right? Yep. I would like to guess. I would like to solve. Because all we have, we have three, we have three U.S. players, a Brit and a German. Is this?

There's not a lot of Brits. It's not. Is this, is this the New York Knicks? Yes, this is the 2024 New York Knicks. O.G. and Nobie. Listen, he's a mind. He's a mandum. Who is Isaiah Start?

Is Isaiah Hardinstein from Germany? Yeah. Yeah, he is. Next slide. Yeah, he is. We got the current Knicks. We got the Villanova 3 as the Americans and then O.G. And Isaiah Hardinstein.

Ah, the more you know. Yeah, there you go. German, German American. Okay. Easy one off start. how to give you guys a current team get your feet wet I don't know how much longer it'll say that easy next team

we got which team is this all Americans and is that is that Switzerland that's a Swiss flag yes okay I don't think I would have done that

my geography is horrible listen I've I've watched the World Cup a couple of times you pick up our flag every four years my flag my flag memory gets up damn we're going through

through math in this bitch. Now we're in geography. Holy shit, bro. All the 12 girls are like, what the fuck is going on? They're all good for now. There's only one player that I can think of that's from Switzerland. And that is Clint Capella. So is this the Atlanta Hawks from this year?

This is not the Atlanta Hawks in this year. Wow. Okay. So who are you? Is the Houston Rockets from like four years ago? This is the Houston Rockets some six years ago. This is the 2018 Houston Rockets. There we go.

Wow, this is great. Great pool. That's the only Swiss person I've ever known to be in the league. He has to me. Never, never seen or had heard of any Swiss players. Well, that's crazy. Thank you. I think most of the people don't even know he's Swiss.

So, like, that's one thing. Oh, yeah, it's a lot of assumptions going on. They don't know. Nobody looks at a guy named Clint Capello and thinks, oh, that's Switzerland. Yeah, no. No, no, no. You know, Jake. Good fun fact.

Next team. Who is this? All right, please tell me the top country. I don't know that. Take a guess. Okay, wait, wait, wait. We're going to guess around this. We're going to guess around this.

Okay, so that's bottom left is Latvia, right? Yes. And then obviously it's Canada over there. Who are these Canadian bigs? He said like that meme Okay, so There's Kellyolinick Breakfast Club

Yeah He's just that's just so funny There's Kelly Olinic Latvian And then Who are the Latvians? All I know is Christops It's a good amount of Canadians

Is there a good amount of Latvians? Yeah There really isn't But, like, you should know who the Latvians are because it's just, like, three in the league. Yeah. I don't even know if there's three. Damn, bro. I don't know.

Like, I'm thinking of all the Christoph's prosengis teams and I don't know what Canadians is not difficult at all. It's some Chris Stops team, but I'm trying to think of which one it is. Is this the Dallas Mavericks from whenever Luca and Chris Hops were playing together? Is that Slovenia? Yeah, it is. Which one? Which team? Man, I don't know.

It's the Mavergian It's a Dwight Powell era It's a Dwight Powell era That's what it is The 2020 Dallas Mavericks Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah There we go We got Dwight Powell,

Luca and Chris House Sporzingas There we go You said Lavia You're like oh all I know is KP There you go It was not difficult There we go

Is it is it a Is it Berttown's lap being two Fuck if I know Is he I thought it was some journey Do you get a back check on that real quick? Where is, Mo, you look at it. Where is Davasberton's from?

No, saying, it's slated. Where is Davasberton's from? Next team. He's Latvian? Yep. Okay. I like that. Who is this team?

German point guard. And what is that? That's Spain. That's Spain. Okay. Oh, okay. So this has to be some type of. Huh?

So I'm thinking, I'm thinking. I'm thinking about German point guards Dennis Schroeder rolls off the tongue It's the only one Yeah When okay When did Dennis Schroeder play with a Spain center a la Mark Gassal

So in Atlanta he never played with one Because we had fucking Al Orfred and Tiago Splitter No this is the Atlanta Holtz I'm trying to lobby to you Forward the time line up Oh you're trying to lobby to me right now

Mo's here, the point is here It's going to lay above his head Oh, this is the Los Angeles Lakers There we go Yeah, he played with, what's his name? Powell, Paul Gassall, right? No, Markosol, there we go. Yeah, Margasol.

You got there. This is the 2021 Los Angeles Lakers. There you go. There we go. Next team. Who is this team? Australian. Ben Simmons.

All right. And then Canadian Center. Hmm. Canadian Center. Hmm. Who has he? What bigs have you played with that are from Canada through his, I have to assume this is his six or they are because he fucking barely played with the Nets.

But it can be the Nets. You know for a fact that one Joelle and Bede is not Canadian, so I wouldn't get stuck on that. Exactly. Once again, who are these Canadian bigs? There's a lot of them actually. There's so many Canadian players in the lead. Also,

I was doing this. I was like, Oh, we know, he's not Canadian. I was thinking that you might have thrown us for a loop. And this might have been Patty Mills. No.

For a second. Also, low key, isn't Kyrie Australian? Are we counting him as American? You tell me. Listen, listen If Kyrie's Australian

Who the hell Taze you play was from Canada Again, I have no After like Yeah, we're cooked We are cooked And it sucks because the Canadians Are on their way up Internationally.

I'll say this is also not difficult There's just so many Canadians though Like We're going to lose this And we're going to be very upset Whatever we see this deal I'm not going to let you lose this like fucking try like this is not

hard who are the Canadian bigs where are these people from mo bro so if it's a I'm so ashamed no I'm already ashamed then yeah I'm I'm very mad right now

I ain't gonna lie to you wow wait whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa no never mind never mind yeah I might be cooked uh y'all are cooked you should be ashamed to yourselves this is the this is the 26 16 calves. Tristan Thompson is Canadian.

Ah. Tristan, bringing up Tristan Thompson in the year 2024 is rough, bro. What? It was just so easy. It's the Carrie Irving team. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. What do you mean?

What do you mean? He's Tristan Thompson. Like, you don't know that he's Canadian until he's like, you know, so it's open up his mouth and so it's playing like cheese and fine and all that type stuff. I don't know. You forget. he's not

if I thought oh that's Kyrie Irving my first thought would be 2016 Cavs once again I forget that like he's he played on team USA

so it's like he doesn't even claim that for real so it's hard it's hard all right next team who is this team we got a team from all around the world so two Canadians

and Australia and Italian stallion? Italian? We got an Italian stallion, okay. That's what I say Italy in like every 1960s movie. Yeah, for a quick

second, when I first saw those colors, I was like, Mexico! Of course you did. Fucking Americans. Okay. So an Italian Stallion and another Australian dude and two Canadians.

Okay. Think about, think about Ran by America. Yeah, think about all the Italians and low key. Okay, so I'm, This is a throwback team because there's not a lot. I'm thinking of your boy, Danilo. Oh, Dylan O'Gallonari.

Okay. Yes. Two Canadians on the wing. Right now, the only wings that are coming to mind are like Dylan Brooks. I know he's Canadian. He's never played with Dylan Brooks. Yeah. Haddy?

Yeah. Nah. Okay. Australian centers. I know like Aaron Baines is Australian. What a pull. Aaron Baines, wow. Andrew Bogie was Australian.

No, this is tough. Do he ever play with Canadians? I'm not sure. That is a, that's not the Australian flag. Oh, what flag is that? Wait a minute. I googled that's supposed to be New Zealand do they have the same what the fuck I'm looking the New Zealand flag I'm having an Australian flag it's like exactly the same that is hilarious

right yeah that is the New Zealand flag what is the difference in these two flags for I have to look this up so what's on the screen right now it's the stars this is the stars are a little bit different this is a New Zealand flag um okay wait are we sure yeah oh we know okay no this is this is Australia flag yeah Because the stars are 100% white, so it's Australian. Yeah, I meant to put the New Zealand flag. So this is the New Zealand center. I fucked it up.

Okay. The flags are so similar. Okay. Yeah, New Zealand center. All right. American education struck me again. Okay. All right.

Oh, wait. All right. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Where is Stephen Adams from? I think he's off. New Zealand. But we'll go with that. We'll go with that.

Noticing. Stephen Adams. We are all the right track. He's locked in. Right now he's on the Houston Rockets. And then there's Dylan Brooks, of course. I don't know who else is a Canadian there. Think about Stephen Adam led teams.

Led teams. But yes, it's Stephen Adams. Okay, it's definitely not the Memphis Grizzlies era at all because jaron jackson junior of course american and jaws there to wait hmm hmm could it could it be an okay c team no katy i forget what could it be not not not even close does stephen adams ever play with like marco bellanelli Because this is this taking too long. We might be cooked.

Yeah. This is a 2020 OKC Thunder. Oh, shit. Shea and Dort, Danila Gallinari, Chris Paul. Danilo. Damn. That's tough. Yeah, we should have got that.

We should have got that. That's on us. That's on us. You keep noticing the right player and then you think, oh, no, it's not him. You think about other players? You had it right. It was Danilar. Yeah.

Damn. So many people overlap. That's, there's been a popular thing on, like, social media this week. Everyone's like, oh, like, I forgot this guy played with that guy. This is the ultimate example of, they played together? Like, yeah, he played with Stephen out. Yeah, what the fuck? Crazy overlap.

Yep. All right. Next team. Who is this team? Ooh, that's the Bahamas. I don't know what that is. That's the Bahamas. That's the Bahamas flag.

I believe so. Word. yes all right dominating what's going on how oh yeah how are you feeling yeah i agree with you this has to be dionre aton he's only played for two teams yeah only the two teams narrowed down i'm gonna say this the portland trailblazers from this year yeah and you would be correct this is the portland trailblazers the other canadian is shade and sharp I forget he's Canadian too. Oh my God.

That's what I'm saying. Yo, all of the Canadians, you forget that they're Canadian. I thought it was too many Camaro, bro. I thought it was too Mani Camaro, whatever his name is. Whatever his name is after you say it exactly right. When I first read his name, I was like, too many cameras. Okay, nice. Next team.

One more. Which team is this? Full on American. This is hilarious. Is this from this year? Give us Thorold's that bone. I'm not giving you any bones. This is the 1985 Boston Celtics.

This is not the 1985 Boston Celtics. Okay. This is the 2001 Lakers. This is not the 2001 Lakers. I know. Listen, there's so many teams. I know they are not having these international players on the roster like that.

Keep it fine. You are noticing something right now. Anything pre-1992 would work. So, I am correct in that. Yeah. It's this year, though. It's not this year. Yeah.

I mean, what are you going to do? Yes, they're some teams. It's five Americans. I can pick so many teams throughout my history. What do you call? I said to, and I know for the fact I'm right. Who are these teams? Care to speak?

No, it's just like. What are we looking at right now, man? This is like, is it the Lakers from last year? No, it's not. It is not. Okay. It's not the Lakers.

Shit. What team is this? Brother, you gave you five American flags. What team does not? It should be so easy to just say teams. Why are you not just saying teams? I've literally said four teams that I know for a fact are all American. And you are not a team.

What team does not have this type of diversity, bro? Like, this is crazy. this doesn't know your own country this is the 2019 golden state warriors once again this is the 1980s and it went over it just went away okay okay and that's the end of that segment went out with the whimper you guys did not understand the assignment that wasn't our fault i mean i hate that that that was that our fault i'm not taking that we just that's not going on the record that's like lebrons seven finals thing it doesn't count

y'all it is what it's the end of the episode you're going out with that l you're going to sit with it if people are still here comment uh what should comment i didn't think about that before i started the sentence comment that that one doesn't count exactly that's not that that doesn't count that doesn't count what should they comment i think something good hmm see now isaac's on the high seat he doesn't know what's the comment it's hard we try to tell you every week I'm just trying to think of the perfect thing so are we welcome to our life see the thing is though like you could also be thinking you could also throw something out there you don't have to be staring at me no it's on you this week I'm trying to know I'm the problem

I'm trying to think about is this is coming out after game one of the finals so I'm trying to think something that might be topical ooh I see but I can't because I can't see the future so don't come in anything goodbye episode over eat the whole table bye Ha ha ha ha ha