The Deep 3 Podcast - We Gave NBA Predictions That Will Define This Season | Ep. 190

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

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Donovan, what is your hottest take you've been thinking about this week? Sports or otherwise, something that's been on your mind? We just had a conversation this morning. I think bananas and smoothies are terrible. That's so crazy because bananas and smoothies, like, seeing it like just the base. It's ubiquitous. And that's why. That's some chump shit.

I'm not going to lie. Bananas and smoothies. You let bananas move you? Now I'm demonized for the hot take. What type of man are you, right? Bananas? And this is how I know. It's one of the most tasteless fruit ever.

What are you talking about? This is how I know that it's a good hot take. I texted you all earlier. bananas in smoothies, invasive species. They take over everything is bad. You know what that means? You are takeoverable. Anything can move you.

Why are you as a man bothered by your fruit? Yeah. Are you as a man allowed to have fruit preferences? You know what? That's real. That's real. I gotta get back in the lap. I can't be taken over.

You gotta look at work. I cannot be conquerable. You cannot be taken by a banana. Very getable, man. Come on. With that being said, as you guys see by the titles, we're going to talk about similarly. similarly impactful takes about the NBA,

we're going to give you each of us put together five bold predictions for the rest of this season. I did four, because I'm a cheater, but Beesoles did five, Donovan did five, Mo did five. These will be hopefully bold predictions. I don't know. Every time we do this,

they end up being kind of lukewarm to me. But predictions that we think will define the rest of this NBA season as we get into the home stretch. Okay, let's do it. Beasoles, do you have any big fruit preferences? I actually like bananas, man. So I'm a little offended with what you just said.

Again, outside of the rest of the game, a smoothie, they're not bad. I don't mind eating bananas outside of a smoothie. It's just in the context of a smoothie that I'm not really rocking with that. That feels so backwards to me? I hate bananas. I'm on banana rider died, man. Is it crazier to be impacted by Nana or crazier to ride for a banana?

I don't know. The two places that bananas are not good. One, obviously, the hot take, I don't think in smoothies that good. I do feel universal banana flavored candy. You know, banana laffi taffi is the grossest shit in the world. It's always bad. That's fair. You like banana bread?

Huh? Do you like banana bread? I can get down with it. You know, like, yesterday was banana bread day. That's sort of God. Random. I know. But just real question.

I didn't know that. But I said, I did some banana bread. Would that be he said, that is your banana discourse this week. Q the intro of music. Let's talk about NBA basketball. Spell banana right now. He can't. Start it backwards.

We're throwing it back. Whoa. That's crazy. He was bragging. The cranium is crazy. Oh, my God. Crown eaters rejoice. All right, B-Soles, you can go first.

What is your first bowl prediction for the rest of the NBA season? Let us know what you're thinking. All right, my first bowl prediction. Start off hot, man. Celtics, I'm making the finals. All right. Next up, Donovan, what is your first boat prediction for this season? Thank you.

Good God. Thank you. Let's cut the noise out. Nice. One of 20. Y'all wanted bold predictions. I gave y'all. A bold prediction, man.

Let's cut the noise out. The rockets are going to be a playing team. Ooh. Played. You know what's funny? Let's talk about the rockets. Let's get into it because I also know the rockets related on mine. Wow.

I put the rockets are a first round exit. Wow. Okay. Hold on. No, same thing. Let me go ahead. I have two rockets related ones.

I have something else for the rockets as well. Let's just get this conversation out the way. I think the Houston rockets are going to fire. I'm a Yudoka in six and a half weeks from now. Similar to what we saw the Memphis Grizzies do last year. And also wasn't the Nuggettec coach fired last year too off the whim range as well? I don't, but this is a bold prediction, of course. And I'm just like throwing my arm out as far as fucking possible.

I mean, you doco, right? He's, I think he's not on the hot seat necessarily, but people are starting to notice. And another one on top of that. Another one. This would be Katie's last year as a Houston rocket. Oh my God. Okay. We had a lot of angles here to shit on the Houston Rockets.

We're all in on Rockets landed today. This is coming off the heels of the rockets blowing a, was it 20 point lead? 18 point lead against the New York Knicks. Collapsed in hilarious fashion. Jose Alvarado was in their ass. It was crazy. And obviously, let's come off the heels of the KD files. A clear disruption in the team chemistry that they've all said is no big deal.

They're going past it as men. They talked about it, I'm sure, and it's all good. We're going to try to win a championship. Our brotherhood is not broken. Good for them. Time will tell if that fracture becomes anything serious over time. But we're all thinking about that, obviously. And before the all-star break, before they'd even happen, they were losing a lot of games.

We're really starting to see the impact of not having Fred Van Vleet in the second half of the season as Shengun went through the slump of all slumps. About two months of not playing an all-star level whatsoever. Everything's kind of culminate now. So I think the faith in the Rockets is at an all-time low. Piece by piece. Mo, why is Amma Yudoka in your crosshairs? Man, I understand, like, they don't have necessarily the most cohesive, offensive talent. There's, like, a lot of guys who go one way.

there's some guys who are inefficient sangoon being like the face of that conversation amand thompson and his lack of shooting ability just being a real hinder but i think there's like so many ways to work around that that they just haven't tried at all and then on top of that too this guy just fucking hates reed shepherd which is weird and then he has this weird in fascination with like he's he's in love with dorian phony smith who's just been like a complete nothing across all front of basketball so far this year he's coming off of an injury and he's kind of been injured really these last two years, but still him getting like absurd,

not, to me it feels like absurd playing time over guys like reach up who just clearly makes you better when it comes to the pace of the game. Your half court offense, your transition offense as well is just mad, like annoying and weird to me. Yeah, I feel that. I think across, across like,

I've been thinking a lot about like team building, even in like tomorrow, we're going to talk on Housecall about some other stuff, but like the, the, The Rockets are a team work very clearly the superpower of doing this like, we're going to, we're going to beat you up, we're going to get these offense to rebounds, that style of offense that we can play better than anybody else. That superpower has been has been zapped.

They don't have that anymore. At that point, now what do we lean on? Can we start to get to competency in one specific area? And they have, they play with a lot of non-shooter liners, people who can't get buckets, people who can't get shots on their own. and for that reason of like, Reed Shepherd's going to have to play and he just doesn't, he just won't do it.

And obviously you can, like, if you ask, if you ask Adoka, he's probably going to be like, well, he's going to have to learn how to, you know, pull his shorts up and play defense. Listen, dude, your whole team, like, you were getting offense because you were missing shots. Like, that was the, that was the crux of the best part of your offense. Now you are still missing those shots and you have nobody to get those misses.

If you only know how to play one way, that's a coaching issue. You're going to have to figure out. way to be a little bit more versatile. Yeah, and a lot of Rockets fans share these sentiments. They're very frustrated with Udocha and his just like hard-headed mentality. That for better or worse, he is a guy who's in do-with-things his own way, is helped return the rocket's fortunes around when they were taking up their worst.

And he came in and fixed the culture. But you're seeing the downside of that when, like you said, he's in a say, Reed doesn't defend well enough. I can't just ignore that. Our whole identity is we're going to win with defense. If somebody's out there that's going to ruin that, maybe it's not worth a trade-off. I do want to ask all just like in general, Do y'all think they accelerated the process too much by adding KD?

No, I don't, because I don't think they gave up a lot. I think like they gave up, obviously they gave up Dylan Brooks. You give up Jalen Green. You knew Jalen Green wasn't the guy. So I think making that swap and then putting in a first round pick for KD, it was fine. Last year, also they made this move thinking that Fred Van Bleet was going to be here. Exactly. And thinking that their team was still going to be intact.

And so the one thing that they were missing all of last year, was we need somebody to go get a bucket. KD is the ultimate, go get a bucket guy. And then they've just suffered a lot of injuries. It was the right move. Yeah, the Fred Van Vlee thing is really the answer. That without him, then yes. If they knew he wasn't there, they shouldn't have made the Kevin Rand trade.

You couldn't know that. He got hurt after, obviously. So I don't really think anybody is at fault for them struggling right now. It's just the realities of the roster is catching up to them. And I think it's mostly catching up to them because the beginning of the season, Schenguin just started so great. And he's not been great for a while now. And it bears itself out in the lineup data.

If you look at this, Oh, wrong number. If you look at them when Durant and Shangoon are both on the court together, they're plus four net rating. That's very mid for your best two players being on the court together. Most teams, if you filter just the lineups where their two stars are together, they're like plus 10, plus eight at the low end. Like you're supposed to be killing teams when your best players on the court together.

The only one of these lineups here is when Katie is on the court and Shingoon is off, where they're plus 11.5. That's what you want to see with both of your best players out there. And that's because when they're together, the defensive rating is 116. You look at the one with Shangoon on and Katie off, 114. They haven't made. defending well with shangoon in the court as of late specifically and I think it's kind of weighing down a lot of numbers

in the first quarter of the season when they were really strong and especially because shangoon isn't shooting three well anymore he had a stretch where his efficiency overall is down to where it's always been inefficient it's fixed a lot when shangoon is playing like one of the best offensive bigs in the league and you mask a lot of those question marks with him being a great creator good good score we're talking the first month about katy and shangoon are this most synergetic awesome duo that's working

it's all going perfectly that's because shangoonoon was hit a lot of threes without that things kind of just look a little mid yeah yeah man like we saw a clip the other day I think you'd have it probably like a week and a half ago wherever where Sengoon let someone just blow past by him in the paint and there was just like no effort at all

and KD yelled out place of fucking defense man that that right there just basically puts your sentiment on a fucking pedestal and that's what the season pretty much has been all about when it comes to seeing why they haven't been working at all they don't have a guy like in like Stephen Adams he's been out for the majority

the year already, but he's out for the rest of the season. He's having some surgery. And that just kills every single ounce of hope of what this team's identity should be as well. Yeah. And if we add Steven Adams at this mix and this lineup data, Kevin Rand Adams together plus 15.2, pretty goddamn good. Where else is Adams in this? All three of them. So plus four. So Adams alone didn't fix those issues. Shengun and Adams together having those two dynamic duo, big guys getting the rebounds, plus 9.5. When Adams alone, only 48 minutes, plus 37. The unit. The key he had lost it. Only 48 minutes.

But, you know, Adam, there's a lot of these lineups that Adams did a lot to mass these issues. Because if you can't be a good playmaking team that's consistently going to create good looks, getting a lot of looks is the answer there. And without Adams, a super power being gone, they just look kind of mid-offensively. And it just is what it is. And that's why Stephen Adams, as great and valuable as he is for that skill, he can't be this much of a difference maker to your team. And so that's why I do, I do agree.

I think, I think, I may could be on the hot seat. And if they go out and they get Kevin Durant and they underperform and they either are playing team or they go out in the first round, yeah, there's going to be a lot of conversations. That game against the Knicks was ridiculous. They had like nine or ten turnovers in the fourth quarter alone. And there was like a five-minute stretch where you just have steel. I dribble the ball off off of my foot, bad passes everywhere. Anytime that we actually get a shot, it's good. Even the game before whenever they played Charlotte.

But nobody else played well. Like KD had a very, very good game, and he stepped up. And I thought that was like a very, very important game for the season of the Rockets. Coming off the All-Star break, you have the KD files, all of this stuff. How is the team going to respond? It felt like nobody else responded, but KD kind of was like, I know that the spotlight is on me. I know that we need this game. I'm stepping up.

He dominated and he was able to lead them to that win. This is the rest of the team for a second straight game coming out the All-Star break. where everybody else's looks slow. And if Kevin Durant is not going to score 37 points, if Kevin Durant is not going to shoot 60% from the field, then they have no offense, they have nothing that they can get to. Amen Thompson,

we've talked all year about how he hasn't necessarily taken that leap as an offensive player. There's a very, very real scenario. And the thing that I legitimately think is going to happen where you're going to get into a playoff series, playoffs regardless of whatever, even if you're like the one, or eight seed, there's normally like one game that's kind of close.

How are they going to operate in, in club situations? How are they going to get buckets in the fourth quarter when nobody, nobody can do a pound cross to get by their man? Yeah. It's so hard. The answer is. To do it. Don't need shing, if you're here, first 28 games shangoon versus last 20, 57% true shooting

none of 51. The answer to that is they need shing go to play closer to the first 28 games and need him to be a consistent shot creator for himself and others. that it's really as simple as that. All the pressure in the world is on his shoulders. Whether it be right or wrong, whether it be deserved with this roch construction, we know what Katie's going to be. He's going to be the great mid-range score.

He's going to be the release valve. He won't be the creator anymore. All the turnovers you're talking about, it's mostly because there's a lot of plays where Katie is having to run point guard essentially and run these pick and rolls, get doubled, and try to make things happen. He's going through the same issue that LeBron's going through. When you get old and when you can't blow by people with the same

and your body's just a little bit slower, you lose a little bit of that rhythm and timing you're used to, you lose your handle. a lot. LeBron can't blow by anybody without dropping the ball and trying to reset. That's why Kevin Durant's turnovers were really high, I think. He just can't blow by people the same. And that's not going to fix itself. That just is what it is. It's a lot of people that are starting to get their hand up closer to his shot than ever before. Like, I've seen a lot more contests. And even with Shangoon, I will say, I do think

it's fair. People have been calling him Baby Okich and all this other stuff. And we, you know, we've waltzed him up early, earlier in the season. And if you want to say that that's an overreaction fair, but when you are this guy now, obviously KD is KD, he's 37. Like this is going to be your team. This team is kind of built around around you. I think it is fair to say play better. Yeah, dude. Yeah.

Fucking 49% on twos in last 20 games. He's the only, he's the only center in the league that has, I forgot what the number was, his effective focal percentage is like below 52 or something like that. Like no center that's that big should ever have this bad of shooting inside the arc. Like, and again, it was better for 28 games before that. We thought he made that leap. So I don't know what to believe. Midseason slums happened.

We'll see how he continues to bounce back. He had just had a good game. Like, I'm not writing him off. Is that first half leap being completely fake? Looking a little bit fake right now. I'm not going to. I might, I might go ahead and cash it in this fake for me.

I don't think he's going to call it at all. Yeah. Call it. Call it. Call it. Call it. Yeah, I mean, maybe he certainly is back in Sabonis conversations.

Like the whole, he broke out of that where like he clearly has this like on-ball creation ability. and is a better defender, which he still is, to some extent, that he doesn't have the exact limitations of Sabonis where it's like you can't win with him. We kind of let him graduate out of that. No, you got to prove it again. You can show me the playoffs.

Jack in the conversations is crazy. Hey, guys. That's tough. He relapsed on Subonis. That is what it is. Relapsed on Subonis is crazy. They're the, I'll take it right now. I think they are currently the four seed right now.

They're half a game up on the Lakers and Minnesota. They're two and a half games up on on phoenix obviously dylan brooks is out for some time that is like a big hit for them so i don't know how far phoenix is going to slide but the way that houston is playing right now and their offense it it looks so clunky yeah and it it doesn't give me anything to where i can you know what that sounds like they can they can maintain that literally sounds like the boss and south looks from a couple years ago like i'm eudoccal it just has had these issues when they come to not having the most um creative offensive schemes or anything like that at all just

really slow and really like one way level offense. And I see the same things pertaining again. Now obviously, of course, like St. Gung, play better. That just fixes everything. But, I mean, you do his job and just make things. All I'm hearing is, I mean you do okay, is an or merchant. He's a try hard. Give stern answers at the press conference merchant.

I give Dylan Brooks and friend, family all the credit in the world last year for changes their culture. None to him. Y'all got any predictions on how he's going to get fired? How? Like, are they going to call him? on the go. Start talking to you.

Yeah. I ain't going to lie. Another scandal is going to go. All of a sudden. All of a sudden. He's learned how to keep it hitting since then. He's up to his game. Next one.

I think Adam Silver implement two more tournaments to fix problems he created. One will be a tournament for the number one overall pick. And the other, you guys can decide, but there will be a second. This is one of mine. This is one of mine. So I think that there's been a lot of conversation about the length of the the season and about like eliminating back to backs, I think what Adam Silver is going to do is we're going to space out the season a little bit longer. We're going to shorten the preseason.

Everybody will still have like, like, you know, they have like the games in China or some games like Abu Dhabi or whatever. They're still going to get that international money. Yep. However, the preseason is going to end up being a preseason tournament. He's going to have. It's going to be like college basketball where they had the Maui invitational and like that's like the first like three games of the season. the preseason is going to be a tournament and then we're going to have an extra week and a half of the season we're going to get rid of back to backs.

That's the way that Adam Silver is going. He's going to hell. I get to him. He's a tournament. He's a tournament. He's a tournament. It loses the comedy. Oh, my gosh.

But yeah, he loves tournaments. And since we last recorded, we got an official update that all that that report like a couple months ago that they were thinking about all these ways to possibly combat. tanking involving freezing lottery picks a certain times of the season. What was some of the other ones?

You can't be top four in the lottery multiple years in a row. You can't make the conference finals and then pick it in the top four. Yeah. All this convoluted bullshit has been like thought about. It's an officially said that they are considering that and they're going to. Basically the reports that we're going to pick one of these to be our answer this summer. The competition committees and sit down and decide what they want to do. And like 80% of the list is stupid, stupid bullshit that overcomplicates things.

A couple of them I think they probably could get away with. We've talked about it in the past. but they're going to do something. And yeah, my bold prediction is it will be a tournament. Or two. No, it will be two tournaments exactly. Or three. No, no, just two.

He has limits. More sponsors, you think so. Does he? Two tournaments at a time. He's fixed, quote unquote, fixed everything with a tournament. Now, listen, when we get into the relocation tournament the next year, maybe we'll get into a third one where you do a tournament to decide how many players you can say from the relocation from the expansion draft.

It's a one-on-one tournament to see if you can keep your contract with the country. A tournament within a tournament. Within a tournament. Oh, now we're talking. Now we're cooking. Just to get into another tournament. A tournament for playoffs eating. Oh,

before the playing. This is, how many tournaments can we get to? What's the maximum number of tournaments possible? So right now we have the play in. We have the NBA Cup. Yeah. We have a tournament.

Just those two for now. Okay. For now. But then he's going to add the tanking tournament. Yes, tanking tournament. And then we're adding the preseason tournament as well. Preseason tournament as well. He's added a tournament to the All-Star game too.

Oh, yes. Oh, yes. The All-Star game tournament. That's five. we can get to seven in the next three years seven is certainly on the board and this is exactly what we were talking about

because yes we all were like something needs to happen but we also said take your time don't do anything stupid let me make it clear I don't think anything should happen in terms of like these rules it's all nonsense not allowing a teeny pick top four or two years in a row is the stupidest bullshit I've ever heard of my life beyond ridiculous to not allow a bad

team to like get proportionally better two years in a row ridiculous now i do think they should do something to like stop the jazz thing i think the commissioner should just step in when things get egregious and be like fine can't do that subjectively but a blanket rule like the ones they proposed are 90% of them are so unbelievably dumb to me a lot of this could could and should be fixed like the the punishment that he handed out towards the jazz that's what you need to do yeah every time right like your pockets hurt it's do that or you step in and say like hey you are you are are going to lose draft picks if you keep doing this. Subjectively bring down lottery odds if you think it's too egregious.

Yeah. Just bring belt to ass literally. Literally. Beat them in a submission. Make these owners hurt. There's 30 teams. You're trying to make it 32 teams. There's 82 games a year for every team.

There's so much that can go wrong or go right and so much that happens on a night tonight basis that putting together a rule that's going to make like sweeping changes and stop one specific thing. It's not going to happen. We had even got into the fact about expansion might happen, whether or not we even think it should, or we think the league needs it or is capable of supporting it. Two more bad teams when we're talking about thinking a lot.

And we're making it harder for them to rebuild or build in general. What a combination. Make the league thinner, everybody worse, and then get mad at the teams that are bad. He's a tournament. What a comedy. Bro, dudes are saying, we need expansive. Lonnie Walker needs a contract.

Like, all right, guys. Dude, there's not that many players that need to contract. Teams will be worse. And apparently we hate that now. That's 73 records going to be broken, though. Be sold, what's your next prediction? My next prediction. Wait, does this expansion mean the seasons are longer?

No, I hope. No. No, you just play every team a little bit less. Yeah. Okay, never, okay. All right. My next prediction is the MVP voting will make a lot of people mad. This is a surprise?

I'm not exactly sure as to how it's going to make people mad, but it's going to be, we're going to look at the voting segments or whatever. I don't see Jalen Brown get like 10. votes, Kate get like 20. And like Yolkich is like fourth and everyone's going to be mad. This is a very good bowl prediction because it's happened literally every single year I've been alive. I've never been sentient as an NBA fan for a year in which the MVP voting did not make

people mad. These days it's built in that people will be irate. Last year, Shagel was Alexander, won 68 games, was one the best scoring seasons of all time. The number one reason his team had a competent offense and people were still mad he won MVP. I think the only year where I remember people weren't necessarily mad at the decision of who one MVP was probably 2016 when Steph won it unanimously. And that's it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was hard to. Fid unanimous that probably tells you a thing or two. Yeah. Hard to be upset there. But really like 2019 on the turn of this century, post-COVID, everybody's mad every single time. Well, let me, let me say, I think, I agree, like, people are always mad. I just think right now there's this perception that the MVP is like Yokic, SGA and everyone else.

I personally feel like once we actually see the voting and who people vote for, that's not how it's going to be. It's going to make a lot of people You're saying it's more open than ever before And the voting's never reflect that. I don't think it should be That's the thing. I don't think it should be But it will be because people are

Having voter fatigue with SGA and Yokin's It's also the injuries too They're getting close to that 65 game level And you know it's done People always thought about injuries as part of it But now that they know the 65 game thing is looming SGA and Yokers are still available

They're still like Perfectly above 65 games Like they're not disqualified Some people will treat them like they're already disqualified And like ding them preemptively That's why like the Wemby thing kind of never picked up because he got hurt early.

He's not currently at risk of not playing 65 games, but we still kind of like have put that out of our mind. Is that a possibility? I hate this rule. Yokic is right on the line. Yokic is like two games away

from missing. Which is why he's playing through these injuries looking like shit. Yeah. Well, actually, he bounced back now. But for a few games he looked like shit. Yeah.

Yokic was really close to the line. She and his abstrain, she has, she can miss eight more games in the season. If he misses nine, he's out of contention. That's so bullshit right there, man. And so those two,

guys and right now the like she's still the the odds on favor like he's still very much in line to win the MVP they think he's going to come back they don't think he's going to miss that much time if he does now we start getting into a ballot like beast hole just talking about where k gets votes jaylon brown gets votes does wendy jump back in uh jump back in depending on how the spurs finish like it is going to be a very weird weird year yeah uh mo what is your next one my next Tom out. Does this say Jalen Duren 6? This is not a odds tracker.

Where is this? Oh, yeah, this is basketball reference. Yeah. It's just like a number of numbers. I know, but even, even still like,

basketball reference normally has pretty decent, like, trackers and stuff like that. Why is Jalen Duren? It's just a math math. It's a box four thing. Mickey Mouse tracker.

It's a wins plus box score stats combination of things. Got to. My first or my second bold prediction, I think. Evan Mowbly will have a 30 point game for the first time this season.

Wednesday versus the bucks. Can you remember when's the last time he had 30? Of course not. We're in 226 now. March 19th versus the fucking Kings of last year, bro. March. Nice. I wonder where the last time he did it against a defense that ranked in the top 15?

Never. I think he had like 41 last year as well. I guess too. Do you remember? I don't remember. Let me double check. But man, it's been so bleak when it comes to just the volume of just, you know, points and how much

he just wants to get to bucket those. People are dying to slander him now. I saw a tweet on us. Last game he said, someone said, which one of Evan Moby's two rebounds are your favorite? Tag yourself, I'm the first one. First of all, hilarious. Love it. I'm down for everymobile slander.

I'm okay to get this off right now. I think, because you're really seeing with the Cavs, we still are in honeymoon James Hardin, mode and that's probably going to last until we get to the playoffs. So you're going to get a very, very good version of the Cavs. And you're seeing so much James Harden setting up Mowbley, setting up Jared Allen.

Like he is for all, listen, for all of the James Hardin hate that I have to, that I get to spew. He comes in and he sets everybody up perfectly. And so there are so many opportunities for every Mowgli to play his best basketball alongside James Hardin and be like, like this, this is the. idea and whenever the cabs were at their best it was de mitch is on the floor running the offense he goes he goes to the bench deris garland can step in run the offense as well he has a really good connection the cabs are doing the same thing so i get what you say that jaronle's a way

better role man like he's much much better in the pick and roll than evmobly is yeah so they're going to do that a lot with james hardin evmobie's going to be a space or more than anything obviously they'll do a lot of stagnant they always do and he'll get his opportunity in the pick and roll but they can't both get like huge scoring jumps you know what i mean and evmobie just came back from injury this is the first game with james hardens so We'll see how it develops, but I don't know that it's a given that he'll also eat in the same way Jared Allen is eating now. You know, it's crazy. I saw that James Harden fast break lobbed at Donovan Mitchell the other day, and I'm like, damn, I've never seen Darry's Garland do this.

That's tough. James Harden is a special pass. Yeah, I mean, James Hardin is a lot of just way more in his bag than someone like Darrys calling in general. Different types of passes, but that's why we haven't seen it just like that yet. I just looked up Evan Moeby the last time he had fucking 30. it was against the holy fuck I just forgot I was great

I will say he had 41 against the Charlotte Hornets and then he put up 30 against the Pistons last year so the Pistons had a good defense last year That's the one okay Nice Pistency's good defense there you go

And he's playing that game Was anybody injured? Probably not It was in March right No it wasn't in March Was it early season They turned it around halfway through the year last year

defensively Yeah let's see Was it early season He had 34 war against these guys. Well, you know, hold on. He had 34 hands in Dallas, too. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Dallas last year, everybody was hurt. Look at him playing and then he got hurt. It's not a great track record. He's a bumslade. You're not working with me right now. The Roaldon is locked in right now. I'm fucking crying. Yeah, I would say, like, even though that the Moby, I mean that Allen is, like,

obviously a more traditional, like, romance outside of Mowley, I do think that because, because we are seeing that Mobley isn't going to be a guy that you can just say, hey, I'm going to throw you the ball, you go and get 30 whenever it's needed. Still having somebody there that can, that can, one, put still put a little bit of pressure on, on the defense and facilitate for

other people. I do think we will get a little bit of a scoring boost. Oh, for sure, a little bit. Yeah, I'm not saying it won't help him at all. Yeah, he's definitely will. He's not averaging 20, it's not going to average 26 now. Exactly. That's right. Some people are going to be like that. They're like, oh, you can't do it with Hardin? You're a bum. Yeah, but I don't know. But I do

think like we might we might be able to get back to a place where after this year and after the playoffs every mobile is going to play at least a little bit better to where the conversation that we were having coming into coming into this year those will resurface again and be like oh can every mobile take another leap forward like that's not going to happen that's why I disagree with that that's part why I don't like ever like slander him or I'm not slander in chat for not making a leap offensively I feel like especially with these bigs I'm very quick to just say like okay you are who you are like that two years ago I had all the hope in the world that Chet would make this improvement, this improvement, this improvement.

He made some of these, but some of these haven't come around. So my opinion now two years later is different. That, like, I just understand his limitations more. Now that he's not a rookie. Same thing to the Mowgli. I don't think of Moby's ever going to be a top-time player. That's just out of my mind. I do not think he has the offensive capabilities to have that type of production.

That's fair. With Chet, with Chet, I'm going to still hold Chet to a little bit of a higher standard just because I feel like this year was one of the first years where, like, his rookie season, you're coming off of that foot injury. Last year, you break your hip. You've always been playing through something so I can understand where the limitations are coming from. And now you have this season where a lot of people have been in and out.

You haven't dealt with like a catastrophic injury in that way. If we can stay healthy for the rest of the year, now we're going to next year. Now we're actually finally getting some consistency with your development, with your offseason training and programs and stuff like that. Now I think like this year and next year will give me more of a sense of it's Chet actually is who he is or does he have another level to get to? More so than ever mobile. Yeah, there's definitely one relief that could happen because everything you just outlined.

But I'm also like, if this is Chet, who is just his insanely efficient finisher while being one of the best defenders, 18th, 19th best player in the world because the lack of creation limitations, I'm just fine saying that's who he is and not really expecting that much more. If more does come, he makes this like Jalen Dernley made this year where he kind of like functionally put together the size, strength combinations with the handle should have to do stuff with the ball in his hands. Great. That very much could happen next year.

but maybe it never does and I'm not really going to be like he's such a disappointment not worth the max contract this type this version of him is still worth this contract so I'm not really like worried about it I'm just convinced Evan Mobley's a five

oh what he's a five I don't think we'll ever see that all that a vibe I'm just convinced he's a vibe but yeah good hang yeah maybe to best maximize their scoring

would definitely beat the five I understand why they want to have met the four to have this like size advantage but he would definitely ducked the slander a lot. He was a five and finishing with better spacing. Yeah.

All right. Next one I have bold prediction. Not that bold. This one's a little bit of a cop out. Wembe enters best in the world convos in this playoffs. And not like just, oh, he's first team on NBA, fringe top five. Like legitimately, once the playoffs come and go this summer directly after, it will be a credible argument to say he's equally as good as Yolkits and Che, Yonis. So he like officially enters like, yes, like tier one. Right now he's like just aside of tier one.

It's like after you name the MVP's next guy, he's right there knocking on those doors. Some people are like, oh no, he's already there. And like there's dissenting opinions that we'll put him on that level already because they've valued the defense so much. But it's not consensus by any means. When we get to June, it will be consensus that he is in the conversation. And it's not crazy to say I think he's better than Shea or I think he's better in Yokic.

I don't, I don't hate to take. The key thing that you said, though, is when we get to June. Is he going to be there in June with us? Right. Like, because if they, if the spurs go out in the first round and they ultimately, if they ultimately prove to be just a young team that's still like a year away, you still need, even if it's not Wembe's fault, even if Castle and Harper and they're like the young guys and they, you know, they're losing like six or something,

if they don't get to the second round, if you aren't playing Yokic, if you're not playing Shea to get to the conference finals, I don't, I don't think those conversations would be as there. Yeah, of course not. Of course not. They definitely would not be. If it goes out in the first round, none of this happens. because I do not think he goes out in the first round. My real take here I thought was too lukewarm because of the two seed is they made the conference finals

at the minimum. Wow. At minimum you said? I don't think that's... As a hot take minimum, but you know, they could lose the second round realistically. But as a hot take, I think they're in the conference finals. Yeah, I don't think it's lukewarm because I still do think

even as high as a lot of people are on Wemby, even as like fun as the Spurs have been, they still are this young team that has gone from absolutely no success. Like not even been in a play, game and now now we're just going to vault them to the conference finals i think that's very hard for a lot of people to wrap their wrap their head around like you think about last year the way the people talking we're talking about okay c now the team that had been a one c before that was a team that had been in at least a play in game before and people were still like they're too young they can't do it

the spurs are going to get all that same smoke all the same narrative whenever the playoffs come you know what bothers me that happened because okay c had lost the previous year when they were also the one seed them choking against the Mavericks has done so much bad things for discourse where we assume just because the team is yelling they will also choke they lost in such a stupid fashion if we remember back to that Mavericks series

and that series has like shaped so much of discourse about the Mavericks and Luca and OKC and now young teams in general so I of course I understand the reservation around young teams not being there you've literally never seen it I get it but I don't know

the rest of the conference is an inspiring confidence where I'm like these all these juggernazza they possibly can't make it out Denver has been a lick as a way their defense is terrible right now. It's truly a problem. All their injuries are really stacking up. They haven't enough time to have a cohesive unit there because everybody's in and out.

Ian Gordon's not there and he is carrying that defense on his motherfucking shoulders and they need him desperately. No guarantee he's healthy going to playoff time. So if he's not there fully or he's there and he's hampered, they could be the spur. They could be the nuggets. Yeah. And obviously we know they'd match up well with OKC. I'm still going to pick OKC ultimately to win the finals.

I haven't seen enough from any team in the league to dissuade me from picking the team that should be the best team in the league when they're fully whole in the playoffs, but it also won't shopping at the spurs or that team. I actually agree with you. I have the spurs making it to the conference finals. I had that going into the season, but I feel like Steph Castle is the key. Yeah. Like I think Wemby, whether he takes a leap or not is yet to see, but I'm a Steph Castle

believer, I think he's going to go off in these playoffs. Yeah. Whether or not you're believe or not, you're right that Steph Castle is definitely the key. Like, whether or not you're somebody who doubts him or believes in him, He clearly has like the highest difference to his ceiling and floor. If he'll be on this roster. Yeah, I agree. I was about to say, like, he has the most variance when it comes to his play style

and how productive he can be on the court. Yeah. Whatever he's clicking, they're like amazing. When they go through slumps, that happen to the same time as other guard slumps. They look tragic like they did in early January. But we'll see. I just think that we're going to get to a place where we finally see one being a playoff setting. And we're like, oh, his defense is like a bigger impact in any player in the league's offense.

Yeah. Yeah. The playoffs for them would be so interesting because, like, Phoenix right now is the seventh seed. They're going to walk all over them if they played them in the first round. And then you get to a matchup with the Nuggets and they have all the issues that you talked about. So getting to the conference finals, the path is as clear as it's been for a long time. And a lot of these top teams are dealing with injuries.

It really does come out of who's healthy can playoff time. It's really going to shape things. Like, obviously J-dub and Shay. now dealing with an injury. AJ Mitchell's always hurt. He's incredibly impactful. I feel like Isaiah Hardenstein's always hurt. He's incredibly impactful.

And you get to the Denver thing. Every player on that roster has been struck by lightning twice. Really, whoever's hole is probably going to be the winner of this playoffs. Yeah. And that's why I want to stay here. Because not only do I think that it's not insane to think that the Spurs are going to get to the conference finals. We laid out that path. Throw that path out the window.

Because that's the path from them being the two seed. I'm selling my OKC regular season stock. And I'm buying Spurs regular season stock. I think the Spurs are going to get the one seat. Interesting. I think they're going to hawk them down. And I think they are going to, there are three games back right now. Shea is still, Shea still hurt.

AJ Mitchell is in and out. Now, you look at the numbers, you look at their offense and you say, oh, she's not there. The offense is falling off a cliff. It's really not. Like, they're still top 10. Like, they're still fine. It's good enough.

And their defense is always going to be elite. But I just, the way. that San Antonio is is playing the way that the way that Wemby every single night aren't they on like an 11 game winchie or something? They're on eight right now. I'm looking at it. I was going to say 11. I didn't even know that.

I didn't even know it's eight really. Yeah. They're rolling right now. And I think that OK, see, they have the second hardest schedule remaining. And they still have to play a lot of the top teams in the in the league. And if Shea is not there for one of those games when you're going up against the elite elite teams, even if you overall have a have a good record like they still have they still have 24 games left even if you go like what 17 and and seven over that if those seven losses are against teams

in your conference and our swing games you can you can get got san antonio also has a couple more games where they can continue to to stack up wins that i think they have like 26 games remaining to okayc's 24 there's a there's a path for san antonio to get the one seed and i think i think they will get it. I think they got it. Okay. Okay. I can see that. That's fair. The only reason I won't go that far is, uh, presumably around the corner from coming back. And if she's healthy, I just don't think they're going to lose a lot of games, especially because I feel like every year we do this thing where the, uh, second half of the year, someone's like, so-and-so schedule is so difficult. And then we get to March and nobody plays because so many people are hurt and some people are

resting that like, that's the time to have the hard schedule, I think is the last two months. So I don't know how much stock going to put into that part of it. But with Shea being injured, like that's always going to be a concern that they lose that one seed. Yeah. And this is, it's crazy because like the Thunder, they, this is as close as they've been in a long time. Like last year, they were like eight games, 11 games up on the two seat. Like they were, they were chilling.

Now they're actually in these games that are legitimately meaningful towards the standings are legitimately meaningful in terms of like rock fights and high level high stakes games. They're going to have to play. They're going to have to play people down the stretch. And they're actually going to need guys. because San Antonio is so close. Which I think is actually kind of good for them. Just because they've dealt with so many injuries and have lost so much time to mesh together,

I hope they have like two months of having to be very serious, like going to the playoffs on a good rhythm. Yeah. Because right now, man, they're playing with the most Mishmasse team out there. Shout out of Jeremy Kane. Shout out that trade. He's out there getting buckets in a very necessary fashion for them. Let's stay right there real quick.

Here's my next bold prediction. We're still locked in. By the end of the season, Darry will be shipped to Yucatan. man, simply because of this trade right here. Now, initially when it happened, if you guys remember specifically, I was like, okay, not that bad of a trade in practice. At least you get, like, a first round pick from it, and you're probably going to fully invest in someone like Quentin Grimes.

It's just a weird sentence, but I get it and I can understand it. I think because of the ceiling that someone like Jared McCain has and seeing how impactful day one that he's been to OKC, over the last few games he's been slightly heating up, I think he had like a 20-21 point game against the Brooklyn Nets the other day, which is good stuff. And the other day, and then he's been like really consistent over the last few games. And you see him being trusted more and more by their head coach.

For Darry. Do it again, Bissolz? Be soles with the emoes me frying me. Same vibes. Literally same vibes. But there's been so many like underlying moves that Daryl Mory had just completely whiffed. And I don't see no real reason why he should like keep his job after this year. I think Daryl's socially inept.

I think Darrell Mori has the people skills of a robot. Thinking back to that shit, he said about Jeremy Kane after the trade, where he, like, justified it with the, I believe, what do you say? I strongly believe we sold high on Jerry McCain. So something along those lines. Who is this guy? Who is this NPC? Like, this guy has no ability to read people in anything.

And to your point, the basketball side of it isn't going too swell. Yeah. Signing Paul George, all that stuff. And some of the market stuff is decent. He hasn't done a horrible job. The team is competent for a reason. but yeah, I mean Chad GPT as general manager

Not even I feel like Chad GBT probably has a little more programming To me could say polite things I don't think Gerald Mori knows how to be polite It's a grok Yeah So he's a grok Is this the R-A robots?

They're just mean? Yeah, that's pretty much Deo Mori I feel like yeah He better stay on top of the basketball shit Because he's not getting any people points In the locker room Yeah and I think like trading Trading

Trading McAne even though like I came up here I also was like you know what it's fine like he wasn't playing well you still get a first-on-pig bag and I guess it's fine doing that also does say we are as as much as you can we are going like kind of all in and our low-key believing that joel and beat is going to be here right now and that like having this guy around is more of a detriment to us than than helping us and we think that we can make a push and like and b didn't play like he he's he's he's still he's still joel and beat. Yeah.

Like he's still, he's still going to miss games. And so if the Sixers go out and they have a first round exit, they are also in this space where you have your back court of the future, but you have two guys in the front court who are very clearly past their, past their primes. Like, what do you do overall? And it just puts more pressure on you to go ahead and hit that pick that you got for McCain. Beasol, do you have any more predictions? Oh, yes.

someone's going to get a Corey Brewer 50 bomb by the end of this year that random ass role player that you don't expect is going to get 50 we're going to see one of that. Okay, now let's talk. Who's the best picks to expect this is Corey Brewer?

Who are the most likely role players for random to score 50 in a game nobody watches in April? Payton Purchard, I think that's kind of easy though. Okay, Payton Purch is a good one. He's not called Brewer enough. He's too known. He doesn't have enough.

But Jalen Brown and Derek White there, you better hope those guys miss some games. So he's all the issues to himself. I'm nervous. I think this typically happens on really bad teams. Like when the Raptors were tanking and Malachi fling went off Is Shaden Shard and Sharp going to go off for 50?

Dude. I guess you could if Denny's a good target. He's a good target. Shadden Sharpe can go off. I think we aim lower though. I think we aim for a more niche role player who's a gunner who doesn't have a chance but could get that chance of Sidneyk Bay again. Oh, yes, Sidneyed Bay again.

Loogie. No one's the funniest pick. Who? Naji Marshall. That would fit. He doesn't get a lot of opportunity. That would fit. Cooper Flagg doesn't play.

Maybe one other guy since. Mac Chrissy's not playing. Naji Marshall scores 52 That's a good pick That's a great pick That's a great thing Too good Yeah he's too good

Yeah he's too good Yeah he got 50 is like Oh he's good for Dr. Murphy Oh what the fuck are we talking about Cameron Thomas is the answer On the Bugs No Yon is there There's gonna be a game

Or KPJ misses A lot of shots need to be taking Can Thomas starts Come on the bench right now Can Thomas is in his score 50 Jaylan Green might score 60 In the next two weeks You should be starting the heat up

Yeah He had a bad game Hit the game runner Listen, he was good when it mattered. Yeah, man. That was... Standards are low. And in that game, 26 shots.

He's getting them up. I would say something on the Kings, but they just don't like scoring points. The Bulls have too many guards. I could see with Benedict and Mathrim. Yes, that's the answer. Benedict Mathrim. That's the answer.

Collette misses the game. Bennett McArthur scores 49. He's getting them bitches up. Good pool. Benedict McArthur's the answer. There you go. Game's over. Bennett McGratham wins.

Right. Jayhuff 50 bomb. I'm calling me. You know how Mello scored Mello scored 50 with like no free throws Those all jumpers. J. Huff is going to score 50 off reverse doubles. Donovan, do you have any more left?

Ant is going to dunk on Wembe in the playoffs And it is going to send us. It's going to be like the reverse nap in any game It's going to send us back to a different timeline. A good one? Yes. Where NBA has aura. We have stars and have moments.

Yes. Oh my God. That's actually what we need. We need an adverse Wemby duel in the playoffs where they both get each other. It's going to reset the Reset the league. And it's going to be like,

it's going to have another like NBA Cold International War where it's the American, we got the French. Let's go. We're going up. It's going to set us up going into the Olympics in 2028. Cheery for Cold War. Nuclear deterrence.

It's going to be fire. Self-assured destruction. I can't wait. My list is done. Mote, I have a couple more, but I'm like, these really ain't that interesting now I think about it. I don't,

I feel really low on the nuggets and I went as far as to say, I think they're going to be a first round exit. Damn. But I'm like, low key. If they play Minnesota in the first round, right now they can get guys. They would get blasted.

It depends on their health, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if Aragorn is not whole, they could definitely lose. Yeah, bro. Like, their level, the level of defense they've been playing over the last, what,

32, 33 games. Of course, guys have been in and out, Yokitz. Aaron Gordon, Payton Watson. So it's all like for very good reason, but they have like one of the five worst defenses in the NBA throughout that entire stretch. I almost think like if you're a championship caliber level team,

I'm not going to say no matter who's in that lineup, you should be that bad, but you should never be as bad at these lottery teams ever. I'm not going to say it, but I'm going to say it. Yeah. If the nuggets get first rounded, is Shay, is he getting, is he best in the world? like let's just have discourse conversation about they they get first rounded

Thunder do what they do minimum conference finals appearance if the Nuggets get first rounded I think the Thunder probably win the championship I'm still probably gonna pick them over the spurs so with that combination probably yeah sure yeah he could have it for the summer also Shay's probably win MVP again so back to back to back MVP's kind of tough to the guys game mollywaps yeah like if she goes back to back MVP's back to back chips yeah I mean this I told you all during the Christmas episode I don't think it's crazy to say best in world right now.

Like, I'm still, I'm still going to rank Yokic above him slightly, but I think it's very close to 1A, 1B type of thing. And I know the point three bunts assist demons are going to, like, obviously always disagree with that. But I think they're already within striking distance. When it comes down to everything Shay brings, so if we get the narrative, push a little bit more in his direction, I don't think it's crazy at all. Okay.

Yeah. That being said, the transition to the news of the day. Let's go to the news round up. What we got going on over the weekend since our last episode. We had to start today. Talking about the newest aura man in the league. The guy who I think stole Anthony Edwards-Chain, at least for this month, wrapped the most aura in the NBA.

And that is Cade Cunningham. Cade Cunningham went on GQ. He said, I want to be in the Olympic team coming up. I think I'm the best American player in the world. He said, I'm better than a lot of the guard you rank above me. They just flop for free throws that I don't get, i.e. Jainlin Brunson is a bum and I'm better than him. How dare you put him in my category player?

That night, they go. They play the Knicks. He delivers the finest Italian leather belt to ass I've seen backing up every word of what he said, dropping 42 points, 13 assists, seven rebounds, cooking the Knicks at MSG. Boy, is he tough. He's so tough. He's so tough.

He did Jerry. He saw him so bad. So obviously we had to talk about this performance, the ultimate aura farming and backing it up, but also coming off the heels of this. Not people who are having conversations. Is Kay Cunningham going to be the MVP? Is he going to be this year's third place voter that, listen, the two main guys are getting close out 65 game threshold.

If they don't play 65, is K&R MVP. We have a lot to talk about, but Kade Kahnangam is getting that mainstream media push this week. He is. He's third in the odds right now. Listen, I want to hate so bad. I want to hate so bad because he did us so dirty. I'm tired of being the playground for everybody's amazing performance.

They go to your crib and they drop it off, man. I'm telling you. They walk in our crew. Right on the court. And they stop us out every single time. And the Piston, specifically this year, every time that they beat in the NICs, they have done it in such, in a way that lets you know, this is personal. We are going to destroy you mentally, physically, and we're going to embarrass you. It doesn't matter where we are.

And for K to have that interview drop and then have the performance that he is, I was sitting there watching the game. I'm just like, dang, this guy's tough. He's just tough. He's just tough. And obviously, now he's getting pushed for MVP-type conversations. First-team all-MBAs within the round possibility. He'll certainly be second-team all-M-B-A. And I think he's first team for it.

I think right now he's first team for-th. That's fair. If they're the number one seed, like, that's probably pretty likely. Yeah. And I'm most interested with how we got here. Because Decade ascension is so interesting. It's so unique to be a player who's the first overall pick. When he was a prospect, he was thought to be a best-in-the-world type of prospect.

He's going to be this next Lucodontious-esque, player being this elite passer while being a huge guard that can shoot the three well that was like the hallmark in college we expected him to come in and be one of the ten best players in the world started off slow for relative to players with those expectations went to year two year three and it was like okay it's clearly a good player i'm starting to get concerned about the utmost ceiling here i remember i think around 2023 before they got good the last year they were bad i thought of course he'll be good he's a very good playmaker good defensively i had no doubt he can reach all-star ceiling but I was getting worried that the scoring on ball

wouldn't get to the point where he can be top 10 in the world just because the finishing at the rim wasn't quite good enough his burst isn't quite good enough he needs to get better at the footwork stuff the three point shot was really iffy for some years I was just worried the top 10 wasn't really going to happen or at least not consistently I'd say obviously it could still happen but I wasn't necessarily seeing it as a guarantee

like I did when he was younger and last year all that got fixed he figured out he got spacing became a superstar last year and I think last year we all ranked him around what 12th, 13th best player in the world coming into this season. And now this year, he's just even better in pretty much every way. The efficiency is a little bit better. The three-point shot isn't even falling.

But the scoring inside the rim feels like even though he still has those efficiency limitations, it feels like he has really good control over the game, really good at using his size, that his impact and his ability to raise the floor of his team is better than his scoring efficiency would let you think. I think now he's clearly a top 10 player in the world, right? Too-way player. Don't ask me to how to rank him right now, but I'm just going to say he's top 10 blindly, and accept that as fucking law.

Over the last few years you're right, we've basically been seeing everything about his game come together. We've seen the highs and loads of this three-point shot. We've seen a lot of lows when it comes to his finishing the paint. And specifically, like, I think what's elevated him the most about his game is seeing how much of a better creator and thinker of that he is when it comes to being creative with his drivel moves and all that. He has so much control over the game, so much control of angles and using his size and being created from the mid-range specifically. Like I said, a few years ago, wasn't a consistent three-point shooter, wasn't an above-average rim finisher. had a turnover issue. That's a really hard trio of weaknesses to overcome to reach this level being a top 10

player. And he's done it because he's just so smooth and so good at utilizing his size in the midrange now and just dominating people, doing a lot of Lucidantia stuff where he like takes his time and uses his size, prodding you, getting you down low and reaching a shot where you're too small to contest him from that short midrange area. He has so much value in how to make up for the weaknesses that are still there in some degree that it's okay. He's ascended to a level to where he's entered these conversations, but yet I still

feel like it's a little bit too much when it comes talking about him as MVP. He's not your MVP? Too much glaze? I don't think he's MVP. You think it's pretty privilege? Not pretty privileged. Tough privilege? If anything more so what it is,

is like, yeah, shades out and we forgot what like actual MVP status looks like. Yeah, Yolka just has been out and he's just not coming back and getting his other things. And of course, like that team has been wildly up and down. And he's I don't think Kate is like tier one type talent just yet. And I think MVP deserves

to be reserved for the guys of that caliber. I agree. I'm not going to vote him over those two guys. But if those two guys don't make 65 games, I think Kate might be your MVP. That might be very real. He will be. He will be.

I think because they're going to have, they're going to have maybe not even just the number one seat in the East, the best record in the league overall. Yeah. And for a team, like I can't wait until the Pistons get somebody else to be a secondary ball handler, a secondary creator. Because Cade all the time, He is seeing so many double teams.

And so it really is impressive, like watching this ascension and seeing everybody just blitz him over and over and over again. And it's like when he gets just a couple more opportunities every single game to go one-on-one with the ball in his hands and really start getting downhill, like I think that he's going to have another level to get to. And you look across the league and it's, it's Wembe, and he has Harper Fox Castle. You look at Shea and everything that the, that the Thunder have. Even the Nuggets, Jamal Murray has ascended.

The only two guys, and, you know, one of them is also getting MVP push at this moment right now is B. Soldes, man. Yeah. But, like, even then they have a championship infrastructure. Joe Mazzula is very clearly one of the best coaches in the league. Yeah. Kate doesn't necessarily have all of that right now. Two things to talk about there.

Him be having the best record in the league and being the sole creator is why I buy his MVP buzz over the Jalen Brown fake Boston media push. Jalen Brown is not the most important player by that gigantic of a margin on the team compared to most MVPs. Jalen Brown is the most important player in the Celtics, but Derek White and Payne Pritchard also have really high usage guards. The three of those guys are the ball handlers with a slew of great role

players that I don't believe Jailen Brown is like 80% of why his team is good in the same way that some that's the argument for a lot of MVPs. Kate is that offensively. So I kind of do buy that plus a little bit more team success that I kind of do understand the MVP push for Kate and don't think it's glaze in the same way I've said

the Jalen Brown stuff is a little bit glazed adjacent. And you mentioned not going to be contradictory and go the other way. Okay. You talk about the fact that he doesn't have any ball handling around him, yada, yada. And I think that's kind of been used to discredit their playoff ceiling in some ways because we want them to have a secondary star so bad and all this stuff that we assume like, nope, they'll go out like a good young team in the playoffs, they won't have enough round K'd, he'll get blitzed.

They're cooked. I wonder if we kind of have to just recalibrate how we think about these contending teams. because outside of the Celtics, if they get Jason Tatum back and hit this next level, we think they can, I think the Pistons could beat every team in the East.

Yeah, I think, honestly, I think a lot of it, a lot of times, whenever I'm using that, it's more so if they play the, they play the Thunder. Yeah. And like actually,

like how much of an actual championship ceiling, can you beat the Thunder going one on five in that, in that way? I don't think it's one on five. That's hard. I know, I know, in that.

Yeah, in the, in, with how good the Thunder defense, can get to, it's going to feel like one on five whenever you have like J-dub or Caruso and they're just sitting there and Assar Thompson's like, what do I do here? Right?

Like that in that sense, there will be moments where it will feel like one-on-five or earlier in the season when nobody was playing. Kay had a game where he had 46 or he had 45 shot attempts. We probably are going to get a game like that if we go deep, deep into the playoffs. And specifically only, I'm only talking about this in the context of Pistons versus Thunder in the finals. Everybody else, they 100% have a chance to beat.

They 100% have an opportunity to beat them handily. They are so physical. Their defenses is amazing. They can get out in transition. Everybody else is playing well. They can do it. That's the only scenario in which I'm talking about this. Yeah.

Yeah, I agree with you, man. Also, last year, we talked about, you know, Cates Falls. Last season, clutch time stats. he shot 34% in in clutch situations scored 87 points on the season this year this year kate has 115 points in clutch situations issued in 49% in in that's a big difference in in in clutch situations and that was the difference in the playoff series and no there was it was we talked about a lot but I feel like it was under talked about some serious flaws in his scoring profile were exposed in the playoffs when he had to go against those difficult coverages that was real and to you

your point he improved some of that this year I think is important. Also, I remember last year, I was saying, we had these conversations last year when the team got decent because of the defense and we said offensively, they still need more, obviously. I remember saying, I really, really want him to play with Anthony Davis or a player like Anthony Davis that can be a skilled finishing big man that can do a little bit of creation off of the release valve type of short roll things, make enough small passing reads while being a monstrous finisher at the room that that'll open things up forcade where if you want to pick a roll with them, you can't double team quite so hard because that guy will get the slip.

and be able to make a play or finish the rim over everybody because his physical profile is so good. Kind of be a equal, if not better score at times. He didn't get that. Prime Anthony Davis didn't walk through those doors. But I do think we kind of undersold the leap that Jalen Duren made and how impactful he's been.

He kind of is a lot of that. He is a very good ball handler on their short role. He can make passes there. And especially when they have him and beef stew out there, the double big line defensively, the good cutters coming off the corners there when he gets those short roles. I think Jalen Duren's ascension

kind of answered some of those questions and is a lot of that, not fully. He's not Anthony Davis, but it makes enough of difference to me that I think it'll be like that plus the cave clutch time stuff that can be the difference in a playoff series between losing or beating the cabs.

Yeah, I agree and I like how you led that conversation to or ended it specifically I think the only other like ops or real threat outside of them in the Celtics I guess too is the Cleveland Cavaliers. They've been on a fucking running over there. They fuck the Knicks or who do you care about that? Dude.

The next or the next or whatever. You know? Yeah, whips. Flicks. Yeah. Soft. Anybody could walk on them. man. Damn.

Brunson's getting bliss, getting double teams. Really, Kate is a king of New York if you think about it. If you really think about it. Absolutely he is. Absolutely he is.

Let's relax. He's really jamming him as dad if you really think about it. If you want to get down to the nitty gritty, dude, to get walked down like that. We say that they just beat him in the playoffs last year. And here we are.

Kate being his dad nevertheless. It's ridiculous. Look at that. It's ridiculous. I will say, though, it is going to be interesting because that playoff series, they had,

like the Pistons were dominating game one. And then they had one of those moments where, one, your team just isn't very skilled offensively and the lights are super bright in MSG in your first playoff game, completely choked in game one. The Knicks stole that game, right? It came back for like 15 or whatever. The rest of that series, every game came down to the last shot, to the last moment.

And if Kate is a little bit better in those clutch situations, they could have won that series. So you have that, you have the Jalen Duren Ascension that you're talking about. they can go into New York. They've also already proven it three times this year. They can go into a series with the Knicks and they can beat them. The Cavs, I'm sorry, James Hardin is on that team in the playoffs. I'm not going to trust them like that.

Everybody else, Boston, if they don't have Jason Tatum, they can be had. They can get got. So the East right now is in Detroit's hands. And it feels so funny to be like, oh, hot take, the number one seed can make the finals. But everybody doubts him for all the reasons, like you just mentioned, Lashley lost the Knicks in these reasons. They're still a young team, didn't improve offensively to some massive degree where you say, oh, they added Larry marketing.

Clearly that's the answer. Or, oh, Assar Thompson's shoes threes now, that's the answer. It's a lot of small stuff on the margins. It's J. Landirin improving as a score, which I think is going to overlook, despite him being an all-star. It's a lot of small stuff that adds up that isn't enough to blow you away and say they're clearly the finals favorites now. But I do think the record is what it is for a reason,

and I do think it can translate. Yeah, I feel like if you're a new number one seeder, always going to get doubted. Yeah, pretty much. Especially in the East. It's just historically, 2015 Hawks. The Cavs last year,

you know. But even then, the East is not, and I've seen some conversation about this as well, the East is not this, like, crazy, desolate place where there's not a lot of good teams.

I would take a lot of the Eastern Conference teams maybe over the Western Conference teams. Like, I feel like the West feels like, especially over the last two years with the Thunder really solidifying themselves, it feels like Thunder and everybody,

else. And then the east, I feel like, is a little bit more well-rounded. Because even four, five, and six in the west right now, you have Houston, who we just talked about potentially getting first-rounded, and they look bad. You have the Lakers who are as inconsistent as anybody and don't guard anybody. And then you have Minnesota who every single year, they get to the conference finals, but we doubt them because they're always just at the 60 because they're not running away with anything. Like, there is a little bit more evenness to the conferences than I think people give credit to. I see what you're saying. I think that. I think that's a lot of the same. I think. that's more about a lot of the Western conference teams this year falling apart,

either from injury or like off the court disaster. And that's, that's fair, but that still leaves you out a place where they're still kind of even. I agree, but then you look at the Timberwells, like you just said, as a six best team.

Yeah, I think that's more so like a star-studied conversation when it comes to how people view, like how lopsided these are, it is, but you're right, like, the easiest of conference teams,

at least the top end of them, the top, like, four or five of them are, like, more quality than people did give them credit for. I think the Timberwolves would fuck up the east. I still think they would, too. I think if they're in the East, they,

I'm not going to say they would be the number one seed, but they would get a choice for them, I run for their money. Yeah. They fuck up the East. Some of these teams still.

They will be in the finals. I think they'll be in the finals. Nah, this is Glaze now. This is the glaze. A little, a little. Who you want to glaze?

Pain Pritchard? Huh? You want to glaze paying Pritcher right now? No, no, no. I just feel like the Timberwolves aren't, like,

world beaters in the East just by switching conferences. That's all. They're not world. I don't know, man, they're in the Western Conference finals every year. Yeah. At a certain point, we had to reckon with that.

Yeah. That they just keep making it back in the hardest conference. No. Well, they've also, they've ran into all of the oldest players in the league. Like, they ran out KD. They ran out Steph who wasn't there. They beat Brian and, like, you did, you did it shot. Like, a hundred.

The idea of old players being Lex is so fun. We've never said that before in our lives until them. Well, Steph was actually. He wasn't there. Yeah. So, like, there is that, that part of it. I, again, I just think that at the end of the day, regardless of how you get there, the four seed in the east,

especially the Cavs now with James Hardin and how reinvigorated they look. I think the Cavs could be in the Western Conference and they could win a four or five matchup. Yeah. Right. You're right. This is the year where you can say all this because the West isn't, the West is a little watered down right now because of injuries. So they're definitely aligned at this current moment. Yeah, I agree.

It's not okay though, man. Now, it is going to be crazy when Charlotte makes a second round run from the play in. Good Lord. And they get there. If the Charlotte Hornets make the Eastern Conference finals, I'm never taking any of this East shit series ever again. I'm never taking any of the bigging up with the Eastern Popperins. They won't make it there.

Second round. They'll wintersies. Second round is crazy. No, no. In the first. They be the 8 seed, right? Did it 10 C right now. They can't get to 7.

Yeah. They'll beat the Celtics in the first round. You let her hope to get their way to the 8C right after another 10. Zero is coming back, man. We're good. Stop calling him back. No one knows who that is. Yo, I tweeted that out.

I'm like, yeah. Let me see if you going to say something. I saw it. Don't worry. It was noticed. Speaking of the K. C. Cunningham conversation, I think we all agree he's earned himself into the elite of the elites. And that being said, I'm going to rank the top 10 point guards in the NBA just for this

season. I want you guys to react. Tell me what you think about this list. I haven't thought about the top 10 point guards list at all. You know what? So I'm curious to see where he's like. It is in flux. We have like four guys that would typically be here that have earned themselves add

the list for, I don't even know how you describe the training situation, for being Tray Young or Bia Jama Rants who are clearly not in his list anymore. There's a lot going on right now at the top two. Let's get into it. Is Tyrese in here or is he out? Halifins out of it because he's not playing this year. This is just for 2026. Gotcha.

So I'm being a little liberal with some of the players for performance this year that maybe we don't necessarily know it's going to stand long term. But for this season, oh, we started at one. Damn it. One second. Eyes closed. First off, Derek White and number 10.

That sounds so crazy. That sounds so crazy. My God. My God. My God. Derek White. Derek White. Trey Young has earned himself out of the conversation.

The state of the league is in trouble right now. No, it's not. No, it's not. Derek White has been more impactful to winning for the last three years than Trey Young has. Yeah, you put him alongside Tatum and Jason and Dylan Brown. He's going to do the same shit. If you put Trey Young on those Celtics team, they're not winning.

You just said it's not true at all. He has been... You said impactful to winning. It's way more easy to be impactful to winning when you have more impactful players on your team. And I just, and I just said if you put Trey alongside Tatum and Brown, they're not winning chips. They're not getting better. I didn't talk about that. I just said he's going to be more impactful winner.

That's it. All right. Nevertheless, it's not a true young conversation. Derek White is on here because he's having the worst shooting year of his career by a wide margin. He can't buy a fucking three. And yet he's playing the best basketball he's ever played in this bigger role. His usage is higher and he's been a way better playmaker. Still a demon defensively.

Still one of the best shot blocking guards in the league. Awesome with the floater range. Awesome as a play finisher. Creating shots for others. Keeping that system going. The fact that he's this good with no jumper to speak of this year, he's just, he's just a great player. Top 10 is interesting Well, wait till you see who I left off

Because Okay It's tough It's really rough this year A lot of the guys fell off Garland has been hurt So I didn't include him Trey Young has been banished

Jamarant Stinks Yeah It's tough Okay Okay Number nine Deer and Fox

This feels very consistent With his overall rank I feel like On a year to year basis Fox is anywhere From like The 8th to 11th Best Point Guard

In the league It feels fair Yeah He's just, I think he's very naturally transitioned to playing a little more off ball this year. He's having a more efficient season than he's had in the past few years because of that. That's what you want to see when a player shoots the ball less. I've been impressed with him defensively. I think he uses his size and speed really well in that system to close out to shooters, been really active there.

The jump shot has been solid, especially for mid-range. He's been a big range. Overall, I think he's been exactly what you want from a second option guard. Yeah, he's had his highs and lows this season for sure, but overall been more consistent than not. So I can see a world where he's top nine. And the lows are mostly three-point variance because the balls in his hands. So it really matters and he makes him misses his three. So when he's getting more touches,

Stefan Castle is getting a lot of touches. So if he goes cold, it's going to look ugly for an all-star caliber guard stat line-wise. If he has 14 points in the game, you're like, fuck, what a stinker from Darren Fox. But he's in a smaller rule, so it all makes sense. Gotcha. Fares, fairs. I like this so far. Number eight, James Hardin.

Still up here. Still kicking. Still on here. Do you think he should be hired? Unc is still a problem. I think you have above him. But as of right now, I mean, I think this is fair. Yeah, I struggle with this one.

I know some people I want to put him higher. His PR has gone really, really good this year because the first month of the season, he was carrying hard when Kauai wasn't on the court or wasn't playing at now. And he's kind of, you know, saving Jared Down's broke-ass life. Okay, so I agree that this probably is the right spot. I think that this year has been a roller coaster. And I think that the good PR that he's getting right now, honestly speaks more to just how bad the Dary's Garland situation was.

and how hindered he was because of his injuries. And if Garland can get healthy and be in LA and be regular, regular Darry's Garland, then you might live back on this trade and be like, oh, I can't believe the Cavs gave up on Darry's Garland. But the level that he was at, James Harden comes in, he's at least going to play.

And you know that he's one of the better pastors that we've had in an NBA history. It's going to look better. So I understand this. Yeah. Only reason I hire, man, he has not been playing defense at all this year. It's been vintage James Harden defense. He's not trying at all. He's not trying to all.

That's all he got. Now, maybe there'll change on the Cavaliers. I can't speak to how it's been the past four or five games since he got there. Maybe it'll be better with that ecosystem with those two bigs behind him. Maybe their coach has a better job of getting it out of him. We'll see how it comes from playoff time. Thus far, the season, it hasn't been a good defensive season. So I can't put him above some of the guys who are going crazy in the top seven.

You know exactly what the defense is. It legitimately is a lot of swipe around. Somebody try to bring into him. He's like, listen, I'm here. But it's not defensive. Yeah, but it's not going to be. anything crazy. Okay.

Sometimes it's better than Dair's Garland defense on, too. At least you don't have like a complete void on the defensive end. He's just bigger. Yeah, exactly. I'd rather have a bigger,

bad defender than a smaller one. Yeah, I mean, Garland isn't exactly Trey Young when it comes to defense. Dang. Number seven. Second Trey Young. Of the section. Number seven, we got Jamal Murray.

I also feel like he probably should be higher for this single year that he's having. You would think so. There's some demons in the top six. Yeah. He's still shooting 50, 90? By far.

Okay. Is it like 43 now? 50, 42, 90. He's going crazy. He's gone crazy. He's not insane. I'll reveal 6 because 6 and 7, this is my hardest one. Jamal Murray at 7, Tyrese at 6.

This is the debate I struggled with with how crazy Jamal Murray is shooting this year. But Tyrese just has so much responsibility on that team and has his shoulder so much of a burden that I feel like it's slightly more impressive. And I think he's better defensively. Yeah, I'm going to give Maxi the nod. I think Philly is so inconsistent and they're so, uh, it's so, uh, it's. in terms of like the overall situation of the Joelle and beat of it all, the what version of Paul George are you getting? Even your your back court, you know, running mate now, he's a rookie.

And he's had, he's had ups and downs. He's had the rookie wall. And they've been able to still maintain because Tyrese maxi has elevated to a crazy, crazy all-MBA pace. I think he should get the nod at six over Jamal Murray. That's very close. That's very close with how good Jamal Murray is playing. Yeah, it's hard.

And I initially didn't like it. that you had, Jamal Murray, outside of it, and now you have this guy, I completely understand. Without his level of playing his ascension, he's still averaging 30, playing all the minutes in the goddamn world. This Philly team right here, by all account, should be like an eighth, ninth seed

in the Eastern Conference right now. But they're not because he's constantly throttling them on offense and always give him a certain level of baseline competency. You know there's like a little Cold War going on in the Philadelphia fan base and media between Joel and Beat and Tyrese Maxi? To what Cold War is on a lot? Second Cold War reference. That's crazy.

Actually, this isn't even cold. You're chewing all these wars, man. I know. This isn't even cold, though. They're shooting dynamized in the media. They are out there having some discourse about who is the face of the franchise, that there's favoritism going on with certain beat reporters and stuff. Like, there's a little schism in the media.

It's all media bullshit. It doesn't really matter, not on the court. But the fan base is a little divided on. It's funny how it's always a local media doing this shit. Because Boston's going through the same thing right now. Yeah. It's always Boston. It's always Boston.

It's always Philadelphia in both sports. In every sport, those two local media markets are insane. They're like the only two that still have. thriving radio ecosystems. And we got the craziest motherfuckers in the world on the radio being like, I don't like the way he carries himself. And it just leads to nonsense.

It's bad. It's bad. The Philly media is so bad. Philly media is insane. It's the worst. There's just nothing like it in the world. I do, listen, I do be tapping in. What is it?

Is it? Yeah. Also, I can't wait to see who's at number five because I thought Maxie was going to be top five. Number five, we have Jaylon Brunson. What? You want to be higher? I thought he was going to be top four.

Of course you did. I'm still curious to, This is not the name that thought. But okay. Interesting. That's not the top four. I don't know what you're thinking then because Kay Cunningham's still ashamed.

I was accounting for that as well. Yeah, Jay Johnson is five. I think he's slightly better than Maxi. Well, not slightly he's better than Maxi. I think to start with the next tier. I think he's a top 10 player. If Kay bumped him out,

he's the 11th best player in the world or something like that. He's clearly a player that we know can do in the playoffs, no can do in the regular season. I think he's implemented off ball, scoring into his game wonderfully this year under Mike Brown. One of the few things that has changed for the better in that offense, even though they've since reverted a lot to more at Daniel Brunton on-ball stuff, but he's shown

a great capability of doing that. He can't be top of four because of defense. Wow. That's, you know what? That's fair. I just, the shot making is ridiculous. It is. And even in that Rockets game,

the whole game trash. He checks in in the fourth quarter, four for four. He's hitting mid-rangers over everybody. Like, he is one of the clutches players in the league. I think for him and knowing that all the other guys, on the roster, like, Kat is so inconsistent.

Josh Hart is shooting 40% from three. Still, we'll just never get the respect of a 40% three-point shooter. Like, he does a lot of caring for the Alpsis. Do you see Jalen Breslin in your nightmares still? Or you see him during the daytime when you're thinking about the Celtics? Is it more at night or a day? Honestly, I just think about that Achilles tear. I don't even think about Jalen Brunson.

Oh, so you can bet yourself the only lost because of Achilles tear. And you kind of mind hold the fact that it would have lost anyways. Absolutely. All I remember is that Achilles tear and the fact that I was at a Kendra concert that night. How dramatic. Y'all were gonna y'all were gonna go down 3-1 anyways Yeah, no, no

Doesn't matter Yeah I remember watching that game I was like, yeah Despite the Achilles' tear They were on pace to win So you were out of the house For a game four

Were you at your house And seated for Back to back games Of Mikhail Bridges Stealing the ball? Yes, yes Talking mad shit too Perfect

I've never been so confident That we were gonna win a series That was talking mad shit Going into the series For that series to unfold the way that it did. Yeah. I think we forget just how unlikely it is that the Knicks beat them.

Like everybody was certain that this cute Knicks season would end because they can't be Boston. Yeah. Like even at the start of the year, but I remember we were actually in Boston for a live show and we watched the Boston Celtics absolutely like destroy the Knicks on the first night. That was a great day. Yeah. That was tough. Number four, we have Steph Curry.

Okay. This is tough. So you want it Brunson above Curry? Oh, man. This is tough. You want him above your sweet light skin king? I think he's gotten him. He has not gotten him.

I think the warriors have throttled him and have put him in his position. where apparently everybody's laughed them. Steph Curry is having an efficient 27 points per game with bullshit around him. He just can't, he is Jimmy Butler handling some playmaking, so as a sister a little bit lower, and we know everything around this team is a dysfunctional. I didn't him one spot.

He's not three anymore. But I can't put him below Jalen Brunson because the Warriors are so ridiculous. One, I hate the way you said it. Why do you say? But this is my lot of shit. Jalen Brunson. This is the conversation that I go back and forth with a lot.

And I think, again, I'm always just lean on on Brunson's shot making because I do think it is one of like the special skills in the league right now. But it's Steph Curry. I'm not going to get bad. Yeah. You lean on Jay and Brunson's shot making. I'm going to lean on the greatest shooter of all time, still being the greatest shooter of all time, not really taking too much of a step back offensively. Defensively, even. He hasn't really taken that much of a step back aside from what he did like three years ago where he slowed down.

He still could be exactly what we think Steph Curry could be if his team made a little bit of sense. Wow, man. Okay. So you're clearly dinging him in his team a little bit to keep him out on top three. I'm digging him because he got hurt, I guess. And I'm not really dinging him at all. I'm just glazing. Kay Cunningham, I have a number three.

Oh, yeah, this is where I have, I disagree. I think it's kind of flipped for me. This is the first like hard stamp. I disagree with this list. I personally still would have. That polite ass hard stamp? Yeah. I disagree.

I still have curry at number three, man. I disagree. I'm mad at you. Listen, if we're gonna glaze Let's just do it Let's let it off Let's glaze all the way Put him at two

He's better than Luca right now Two-way value, right? He's better than SGA I see it. Well, SGA ain't been doing these last few weeks He'd be done We're gonna be reactionary

Let's fucking react Yeah, let's do it How about that? Lucas over here again Blown out at home Yeah Listen, I'm taking K to Luca right now It's a 12 point game

It wasn't a blowout It's just a loss Pain Pritchie does cross people Nah If you watch that game Payne and Pritchell was doggin'all Yeah push off It was a fake ankle breaker

But no I mean Do I think Curry is still better than Cade If all things were equal Probably Things have not been equal this year Kate has done enough If you're the one seed And you have MVP chance

I'm gonna give you the not For just this season In which Curry is hurt Maybe if Curry is playing the entire time And had them a more respectable level I would still go towards a better player But just for 2026 I'm gonna give Kate the respect

To say he's a top three point guard Okay. What would y'all need to see from K to put him in the Luca conversations for? Title. I don't know. I just, when it comes to singular in his ability, I need to see like the three point shot creation and all that.

He actually started making threes way more. And then I think when it comes to really, that's it. That's like the main thing for me. Nothing. There's no world in which I think he's any better than Luca. Like I'm not really no world. Lucas is much better.

Like it really comes down to like the team difference and like if team success can get K'd the nod like narrative wise. there's not going to be a day he's better to Luca Donchette. I think because of what he provides on defense, like that gap is, it's not like as huge in my mind because I get it. He has to be a better score. Yeah, exactly.

Like he gives back a lot compared to Luca as a score that Cade, he's not Gary Payton. I'm not going to say it changed. He's not, he's not, he's not quite. I'm not going to say he does that much. Yeah. It is a meaningful part.

That's just more so like how bad Luke is on that edge. I know. It could be a difference maker if it was like Shaver's Luke offensly and it was close enough. I'll give it to the guy who's better defender. But Luca's a much better offensive player. He needs to see a big leap offensive. Which I can understand B.Sols.

I agree with that. Also, if I see, I'll give Kay the knot, if I see Luca one more time give up a bucket because he's complaining to the ref, which I'm sure I will see you for the rest of the year. I'm thinking. So I'm over. Okay. So there you go. We'll see the next game. Number two, I have Luca Donchitz.

Number one, I have Shaggildos Alexander. No surprises here. These are the best two. And to me, one and two has been abundantly clear since last year. Yeah. Yeah. There's hyperfishers from all ends of the fucking four. the much better defender.

He is not, I'm not going to say the same level of explosive defender, but definitely when it comes to having variants, he's way more consistent on all fronts. He got it. It's clear. It's his decade. Yeah, I think.

Damn. It's his decade. Tough. It is his decade. That's tough. We talked a couple months ago. I think we're talking about them as one and two because that's kind of like where we know

that we've like slotted them. He's just one. She's one. And he's in a different tier. right now. Yes. Yeah. She's a tier.

Lucas is his own tier. And then Cade, Curry, I guess Brunson is another tier. But these guys are their own tiers individually at one and two. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's on, he, he is potentially going to have back to back to back MPs, back to back

to back MPs, back to back rings. If he were, yeah, if they win. Yeah. If they win. And it's a, obviously,

it's a very real path. They're the one seed right now. That's stuff that only, only Bron does. Only, only, only Hakeem does, only Michael Jordan does. Like, there's a very, very small list of people in NBA history who are, who have done things that Shay is on track to do this year.

Yeah, it's just one of the greatest players of all time, this is what it is. Crazy, man. He's just amazing. On to the next batch of new stories to talk about the rest of the things that are going on besides the K-Conversation, Victor Woman Yama's lying through his teeth. He said, I'll be in the done contest one day. How do you guys feel about your goat being a liar?

I mean, it's, it's consistent. He thinks he brought. Like, that's it. He can't lie like this, man. He's setting up. He's perfectly setting himself up in the future to be like one of the actual goals going back to what you said. Because this is what they all do, right?

They just sit down and lie and you're giving your haters some more ammunition for the next few years. And now LeBron can rest because we've said for the past, I guess, LeBron committed in 2010, we've said for the past 15 years. LeBron ruined the dunk contest. For the next 15 years, after the dunk contest gets so bad and Wembe lies and he doesn't do it, and then they take the dunk contest away,

then we can say Wembe killed the dunk contest. There you go. And then LeBron caress and he can do all of that. That's so funny. Maybe he's not the truth though, because maybe he, we talked about it, performative.

He's aware of his role as the next best player in the world and understands what he needs to do to be that and the responsibility that comes with that. He's performing in the best way. Maybe he knows he needs to say the dunk contest.

He knows if he goes up there and he does some one mills in the free throw line at 7-4, it's going to restore the feeling. If he, listen, if Wembe does the dunk contest and he, like, restores the feeling, just make him commissioner.

Because clearly he knows what's best for the league more so than anybody else. I'd never ever seen or heard anyone be like, you know what? I want to see Wempe in the dunk contest. No one's ever said that ever before. You think about it.

You see that don't get against a king and you're like, hold on. I want to see maybe the dunk contest. I guess. I don't really want to see it. He has some mood. You don't want, you don't want to see it. You know that dunk, Dwight Howard did where he dunked on like an 11-foot room?

Yeah. Imagine when we doing that on like 13 foot. And he, what's the most he do you? 15? I don't know. No, 15 is.

He's 7-6 with like an 8-foot wings fan. He almost never tries when he dunts, when he jumps. He jumps. He jumps up. Like, he gets a tiptoes. 15?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the bounds of the human body. So I don't know if that's crazy or not. When Dwight, and obviously Dwight's like 610. But he has like this crazy vertical But like fail also famously not even that

Like he's like six nine with long wings fan So Dwight do I dumped on a on a 12 foot room Yeah I think it was 12 Yeah it was 12 oh Wembe can clear 14 Dwight did 12 Wembe can do 14 easy It's a lot Wembe can do 14

Is Wembe's vertical like that I mean not that it matters I mean it kind of does Once you start getting to 14 feet Everything matters I think Wembe he can definitely Obviously clear 13 I think he can do two feet higher than Dwight

His standing reach is definitely two feet higher than Dwight is definitely two feet higher than Dwight's. I think these are the dunks that I do want to see from Wembe that only Wembe could do. Yeah. So would that be a good dunk though if he just put it stupidly high just like reached? Yes. We felt for a bunch of bullshit in the past. Yeah, simply because no one's seen it before.

John Collins jumped over airplanes. Oh my God. What he should do is every dunk he should do should be minimum 12 feet. Okay. So the whole time he plays with the whole. Yeah, the whole time he puts, he puts the rim up to 12 feet. That'd be tough. And he can, he can do somewhat like, somewhat regular dunks, but like.

Actually, the meta here is do 11 feet every time Because it's not that big difference for you But it sounds crazy because I gave myself a handicap No one's ever done that So do 11 feet every time It makes no difference to you And go out there and do crazy windmills And he does the Vince Carter 360 one wheel

Oh my God Oh my god But his arm in fucking I don't know I don't know I think the crazy The crazy stuff that he could do Would be the Aaron Gordon

Where he puts his legs all the way up And goes underneath He'd break his legs I'd be scared of him dying But if he puts it Does that be great. Just one-mill. He would not be able to walk after that.

That's ever walked there. You know how much like time that takes? They can't do it for him? No. He can't do that. Aaron Gordon paused in mid-air. I know. Ian Gordon's a God.

But man. Pat Riley is a statue. I don't know if you guys saw this. It was revealed yesterday outside of Staples Center. They brought back the whole Lake Show 80s team to go there and present at half time. How do we feel about the statue? White Power. That's all I fucking see with this.

I don't like this statue at all. This is terrible That was crazy The statue's crazy No it's not It's a very regular statue But thank you for that Because that was hilarious

Now mind you They explain why he does that pose Like 50 times last night too And he was just like It's not good I don't like it I like this statue I was gonna think he looks

A little bit like Nicholas Cage They kind of zoom in a little bit He kind of looks like Nicholas Cage I see it Yeah that's Nick Cage That is Nick Cage That's exactly Nicholas Cage. I fear you're right.

National treasure. Shout out. Shout out to Nick Cage. That's long legs. Joe, that's Nick, dude. I haven't seen the Nick Cage movie in forever. That's crazy.

So we got one person thinking it's a white power fist. Nick Cage doing white power. Holy shit. What a concept. He just wants to skyhook from Kareem. Overall, it was cool to see the moment at the halftime show.

He was talking about it. He was like, you wouldn't even think he works in Miami. He was like basically, I'm a fucking Laker. Yeah. I heard him say, now it's time to go beat Boston. Yeah. That was nice. He didn't even say beat Boston.

He said like get Boston blood or something like that. He used some euphemism, I forget. Yeah. Yeah. Tough. So much more. He's a mad man. He also was a big fan of respectability politics on this day.

I know Donovan is too in this way. Pat Riley says he wishes NBA coaches still wore suits and ties. I think when fans look over the sidelines, they want to see somebody that looks like a leader. I mean, I think he's, I think people should wear a suit again. It's cool. It's tonal line right here. It's cooler than wearing some like random

athlete's your set. I get it. Right. Lulam? Yeah. Some aloe fits on the side. We got Lulu on Jambazila. It definitely is cooler.

Yeah, it is. I was, I didn't notice the switch to like, it was too late. I was like, damn. When was the last time I saw some? I noticed immediately. It was awful. It was awful. COVID hit and they were like, yeah, nothing matters.

We just need games to happen. You guys can wear whatever. I think it would be funny if we allowed them to dress the same freedom of players dress. And we had I'ma Yudoka and Gucci. On some Don Staley. Even then, I would appreciate that much more than everybody just wearing the same, the same like black team issue. A coach wearing a sweater vest and like some glass, guardian glass.

Quinn started already. He'd be doing some shit already. right yes that's that's the way to go i like i like the suits because i feel like you you got a little bit more personality from the from the coaches i think it would be cool who put up like the worst fits who have the worst fits carlis billy donovan don't he don't know what damn what he's no no the easy answer mark dagnold what the fuck is mark dagonal wearing at home probably something worth the games no no no no no no he has a team full of guys like shay would style they go get them right ironically they put some Yes, yes.

I think he might be like get out of my face with that though. I don't think he'd be going. He'd wear something. I don't think he would. Again, he's not pulling up in like some like spiky Rick, but he's going to wear something. Spiky Rick.

Let's get a doggone spikey Rick. But like they'll have him in some polo or something. It's a ralph. I don't even know. I think he might be like no, I'm wearing the same thing anyways. I'm still wearing at leisure. They're not going to happen.

They'll get them. They'll get them. Look at him one time as a joke. I'll never do it again because he'll do more like the attention and make him uncomfortable. Nah, it'd be nice. Next thing. The Nets, Nuggets, Paces, and Spurs are expected to get ABA throwback jerseys next year.

This year, four teams got a throwback jersey. They're doing it, I think, every year they're going to give a new batch of throwbacks. This coming year, they're doing ABA edition. And these are leaks. These are mock-ups of what they project them to look like. Denver doing this old orange color scheme. Indiana, with the blue. That looks like a city jersey they would do now.

And gray spurs. Tough. Gray spurs is beautiful. With the white drop shadow. Listen, all of these, 10 out of 10. They're all beautiful. They're all great. I love them all.

The Nuggets one is hard as hell too. I love it. Nuggets is my least favorite, probably. But I also don't dislike it. Why is your least favorite? I don't know. Orange and black, little Halloween. Not the best color scheme.

You don't fuck a Halloween? No. Aesthetically, outside of October, no. Do you? I mean, it's cool. You fuck with jackalantons in May. Things as a grown man, you shouldn't be doing. Fucking with Halloween.

as a grown man, should we eat? All right, Doug. Are you allowed to enjoy the clothes you put on? Is it a little weird to care what you have on your body? Eating popcorn as a grown man? Eat that to the woman, man. Why are you presenting jolliness of the movies? You should watch the movie in silence.

What we got next? Next up. There is Garland, letting the sunshine get to him, man. Yes, Darius Garland discovered seasonal depression this month. Darius Garland says he was initially skeptical about the traded Clippers, but is now super excited about L.A. life. The first day I called my mom and I said, this is the first time I've seen the sun in February.

Waking up to the sun instantly changed my whole mood. He realized Cleveland was sad, and nobody enjoys themselves there in February, and L.A. changed his life. Good for him. That was me going to L.A. Shit is real. He's not lying. Shit is real. He's like, wow, this is a different planet.

I love it. Shit is insane. It almost doesn't feel real, man, at all. And also, this is frying me a little bit because he said he was skeptical about the fucking trade. And then he's like, you know what? I'm in L.A. I'll be all right.

Yeah. Oh, I got uprooted for my life. My whole career is in Cleveland. I don't know anything else. It's so sad. And he's like, oh, I get to live in the best city in the world instead of Cleveland. Great. This is awesome.

Give me that Airwant smoothie. Give it to me now. It's exactly how we smiled to. Yeah, that's him. She's in. She was also very happy as fuck. He's the host now. That's such I better fix that toe, man.

I fucking hope so, right. Every day. I need him like Matt Collins, just walking around barefoot. Sunbathing. And speaking of the Clippers, obviously Garland won't play this year. Or maybe he will.

I shouldn't say, obviously. He won't be a star this year. I think it's fair to assume based on all his recovery needed. Kauai knows that. Kauai knows James Hardin is no longer on the team. He was asked what his team needs to do to break into the upper-tier contender status.

He said, uh, I think it's over now. You look at Kauai's face. There's a fourth of the season left. Every day is a day to grow. But I think it's over. No, he's frying.

We have no chance. Contender, I think it's over. He's so real. I think it's over. This man must have, like, no problems in life at all. He has no stresses. He just accepts reality as it is. And I love that.

Never gets too high. Never gets too low. Doesn't care about anything that doesn't matter. You got guys, like, that's one thing I do, admire by him, Bradley? Like, right, he doesn't get too high or low. You don't know what he's feeling. Meanwhile, you got guys like a bra just tweeting out. Maybe it's me. About the women. Maybe it's over. It's also funny because only, I think Kauai is the only person in the

league who can say that. If anybody else, even if, even if Michael Porter Jr., who's been on the nets and we know that they're taking, he's like, bro, the season's cooked. Like, it's like, nothing is happening. We're like, why don't you care about the, as a grown man, why don't you care about your profession? Like, well, how? Why are you not shalant as a grown man? Yeah. You should be shalant. I don't know.

Steve Kerr said it about four times. And we were like, you're right. This shack and cat combo got real awkward. Every shack combo with a modern day big has a clip where someone's like, this shack and ex-player combo got real awkward. Shaq, if you guys from the chip, they'll talk about Brunson. You have to be dominance. Cat, they can talk about anybody as long as you get the ring.

That's the most important thing. Shaq, no. You got to play great. You're a part of the one-two punch. Yeah, but the main goal is to win It don't really matter It gets the credit. Nope.

You got to play great to get the credit. Nope. Incorrect. Incredit. Listen, it is awkward. Shack is right though. You better start playing well, Kat.

Because he is, he is right, like, of the only thing that is like 100% true is you're a part of that one two punch. And so you do have to,

you do have to play well. I'm sure Kat is, is bought in on the idea of, As long as we win, I'm like, nothing matters. I'm sure that that is in his mind. Yeah. Shaq is not incorrect that if cat doesn't play bad, who got criticized.

Also, Shaq should not be saying this. The cat after a win because it is not any productive conversation for a TV program. It is also ridiculous to say three times, no, care, no care, no care. He is correct and also terrible with this. That's the right. That's the problem. He is right, but also the. The worst place to be right.

There's another one, I think. Didn't he said, didn't they have Austin Reeves one that they also, there's some other moment I forgot about. Yeah, what does this one say? This is the same night, Charles Barkley on Carl Anthony Towns. He don't know how to play basketball. The matchup dictates whether you shoot threes or post up. He's a heck of a player.

But when they put a little guy on you, go post. He's a great shooter, but I ain't let no little dude guard me. take his little ass in the post of punishment. So now this is the type of criticism I actually think makes sense for this show. Just like get your little ass in the post and still be silly like the inside of the NBA guys can. This is actually legit criticism.

Kat has not had a good balance on his finishing this year, I think. This makes sense. Leading this with he don't know how to play basketball as crazy. Like what do you mean? He gave good analysis, you know, like he's whatever,

but he don't know how to play basketball it's a craziest train. And that's how I want the craziness of inside the NBA to go. I want it to be pointed in the direction of productivity and actual points. Sprinkle in your hate.

Do that if you want. But make it make sense. He don't know how to play basketball. He also called the Knicks the Dix. I forget the context. He just... Oh, and Shaq couldn't like stop laughing. He just said it.

He just said it like he misspoke and just kept going with his statement. He misspoke. I didn't watch it. I saw the clip. I mean, I saw the... The red out. He said it and like didn't... I don't think he was like trying to,

trying to make a joke or anything. It just flew out. The Dix just fly up. That's how they go sometimes. Type shit. Brian Winhorse says Teams would be willing to pay up to $100 million to the number one pick if they were allowed.

I had an exec to tell me that the number one pick this year is worth $100 million. If you gave the opportunity to buy that pick, teams would pay that. Keep in mind when the jazz were fined $500,000. So I think the point here is that if there was an open market because there was no draft, that a team would give the number one pick $100 million contract.

So they'd give them like a four year, $25 million contract before seeing him play. That's crazy, bro. Yeah. I hate that. Cooper Flavis. was being drafted and it was an open market. Easily 25 a year.

Yeah. Like, Wemby, 35 a year. Is that what you're saying? Don't let me get a billion. I'm going to warn y'all now. Don't let me get a billion. I'm going to spend it on Darren Peterson. He gets a third of it.

I can spend a billion in a day. And I'm giving $750 million to Wembee right off the bat. How much would Rishers A be worth? How much would you pay for the number of Royal Bay? Nothing. Knowing it was a little. Alhofer admits he left hiselter. Due to something deeper than basketball, per Jay King, at some point I'll share it with people.

Big, I heard that big N-word. The boys out of Boston was not nice. I'm sure they were winning titles. They were probably fine. I hope everything is right. That's what I'm going to guess right now. Big N-word. That is my guess right now.

Again, I hope everything's okay. So you think there was old school I hope everything's okay You think Dealer Brown came on to and was like You black man You like me man There was Had to be a lot of conversations

Like that I'm very careful D'Soles what is your theory Is a Celtics fan What is deeper than basketball Deeper than basketball How was the racism out there When you were up there and Boston? I'll be honest

I didn't see much myself But Well yeah Yeah. Well. My theories. Wasn't getting enough money, man. That's all it is.

No, deeper in basketball. Yeah, money. Money is deeper than basketball. Nah. Gopping out. No.

He knows that it is. Something happened. I am very curious of like what the, what the story is going to be because for, for Tatum to go down and then Al Horford be like, eh, I think I'm gone here. And like that relationship was good.

Stop. What happened? Killing Hayes has been signed by the Sacramento Kings. You're lying. Tell me what you think about this. I think they probably just figured the number one overall pick. Playing about playing? Playing what?

I think Killing can lead him to the plane. Oh, and Adam Silver's new number one pick tournament? Yeah. Because, you know, he wants the rush to get things going. So it's not going to be something for next year. It has to happen right now. You know what? He's a good accelerator for that.

What happened if Adam Silverman full WWE? I was like, announcements. tournament for the one thing next week. We're changing this bitch up in the moment. Can you imagine? I would hate it, but also I would have more respect for him as the commissioner. So much more respect for him. You know it'll be elite too.

Coming out, we got world class legend boogie. They had team legends face off for the fucking number and over all big versus John one. Start slamming each other. other. They give every team a watch legend. Yeah.

Wash legend as their full out the five man lineup. That'll be, that'll be good. Derek Rose represents the bulls.

Oh, shit. Let's go. They said, this alone is worthy of them getting fine. Can this is the

taking measure? They're clearly taking. They don't want to win. I'm crying. That has to be the meanest thing you can say about somebody.

They sign you as a sign of purposely losing. They get fine. Being a player. gotta be so bad in today's age, right? I bet you have to pay double for Achille. You're the max contract.

Whatever your contract is, you have to pay that to charity in the league. Like he's Anthony Bidder or something. Like he's actively the worst player in the world. Did you see J. Navi's comments? Oh, yeah, I did. I watched the video. Actually, too. Yeah, I don't have the video pulled up, but he said, I'm not the same player I used to be.

I'm not the J.I. I used to be. The old J.I. is dead. Then says himself about like always having faith in God and whatever that a lot of people were like taking to be a little concerning. I just took this as and he was cooked. That's what I was like, isn't that crazy though? That he's like the old me is dead. Is he like 23? Yeah.

Is he even 23? I don't even know. Yeah. Yeah. He did two years in college. Yeah, he probably is 23 or 24. Oh my goodness. Old me is dead at 23 is kind of crazy.

man, I ain't going to lie. He's 24. He just turned 24 last week. Saying all this is, man, it's sad. I forget, he did have, like, knee surgery at the start of the year as well, like right before the season started, which is kind of crazy. So, man, oh, man. Just tough.

Just tough. I'm not the same J.I. used to be. Just tough. It's over. It's over, man. What else? This kills him. Chris Paul went on a podcast and said a lot of things.

We have Beesles picked the funniest tweet ever because it's so hard to reach is all caps. I'm Zoomed in this time, bro. Don't worry. Oh, thank God. You never zoomed in it enough who was blind that I get cooked. Chris Paul went on his podcast and he was talking about his career. I can know it was a stream.

It wasn't a podcast. It was a stream. Say it's straight. Bro, just read. I sound blaming other people. The mask screen is so small. Bruchess. Just read.

He went on the stream. I don't know who it is, but he was talking real candidly. Oh, that's Tailou. Oh, okay, he went on Tileloor stream. Chris Paul finally admitted, I guess it was a run out of everything.

Why is it in a podcast? I don't know why you picked this shit. The NBA broke up his train to Lakers to go play with Kobe in 2011. The NBA said that if Kobe was to play with Chris Paul, that it would not be fair to the other teams in the NBA, and it was in an era post-lockout where they were really concerned about parity

and they were trying to push that. So that's why the league didn't take the offer. Interesting. I didn't, and I don't think I had the context that they were in a specific I want parody era. Mind you,

the Miami Heat had a super team at this time, and the Southling super team had beaten by Kobe a couple years before. So some contradictions in place. This proves that the NBA tried is very hard to stop Kobe

from me. Okay, now we're going. Why don't you fit to streets? Now, keep reading. Come on. You're trying to stop. Come on.

Six or seven. Look at the last sentence. Oh my God. Oh my God. my god, we got to cut this. Why did you bring this? I just saw the video, bro. I just saw the video.

I was like, okay, it's real enough. It's real enough. This is a real clip. I'm not getting Centelle. I'm not getting kicked. We're good. No, I'm going to be quiet real fast. Both of y'all can't read.

And I think yours is a little bit more damage because I'm assuming you saw this on your phone. It's right up in your face. I'm crying. Yes. Big text. and everything. All caps.

Big texting is all the big. This says Sean Marion over Carmelo question mark. What are we doing? What are we doing? Charlie Villanueva reveal us please zoom in. I didn't want to disrupt

your reading patterns by zooming in as you were reading, man. I cry. Ever chat to read something while someone's actively zooming in? We're working on our city, y'all. Maybe I was being considerate. If she don't happen, day one, we got to grow together.

No, no, go here to read it while I do this, man. No, she's, see, I would read that, man. Now you hypnotizing me. I'm going to headache. Put it back and forth. It's crazy. Charlie's on the way we're able to say Sean Marion reached out after hearing the debate on the show about Kamala versus KD.

and believes his own career stacks up the same as Mello. Please. Go back to where you were. Please. Yeah, apparently. I thought we're talking about the Zoom levels. I'm like,

we care a lot about the Zoom levels today. It's actually the main topic of discussion for the rest of the show. Oh my gosh, man. Apparently, Sean Marion feels like this with a lot of the all-time greats. Yeah.

And he, you know, is putting his career, he's willing to put his career up with a lot of other people. And I think this is just a, a classic case of somebody who is retired and says, you know, we're 10 years removed from their career. And he said, well, actually, I think that if I had the right opportunity and my coach didn't hate me, it would be me and Jordan at the top of the list. You know who's going to be like insufferable when they retire and like 15 years ago by and then they're like yapping all the time about how good they should they they really were

jalen brown it's gonna be terrible man we're having we're having that moment right now at least he's a final MVP though so like if you're at that level of all-star i can like i can understand you saying i'm better than the guys that tear above me that makes sense to me some of the guys that are nowhere close to that is it's funny tatum's gonna have if tatum career gets like back on track post achilles then it's you know like the normal you know like NBA superstar type of thing he's going to have a documentary come out in like, you know, 10, 15 years. And there's going to be a little part of it where they have Jalen Brown. And he's going to talk fairly nice about Jason Tatum, but you're going to have that subtext.

Of Jalen Brown always being like, yeah, you know, I remember we were in this moment. And I told Jason that he had to do this and he had to step up. And, you know, once he really bought into that, then he really took the next level. Like, I do think Jalen Brown probably thinks like I, on some level, I kind of birthed you. You know, I'm better than you. I do think that he thinks that he's better than Tatum. I think he's going to be next gen Paul Pierce. Y'all know how Paul Pierce be talking about himself.

I can see it. I mean, give me, LeBron. I'd be like D. Wade. He'd be like that type of dude. I can see that. Yeah, I can 100% see that. Who else are going to do that? Birthing Tatum, though, I don't know.

We'll go that far. I'm just saying stuff. Who else today would be like that? It's a... I don't think it would be able to be like that at all because he's just too. proven. No, but we need like role players that. Brenna Pajemski.

Oh. Yeah. There's nobody's going to give a line here. But he'll be like that. Yeah, he would be like that. Oh, Cameron Thomas. Grant Williams. Grant Williams is going to come out.

Does he think of himself like overly like that? I don't know, but he's going to be at some like YMCA. I don't know. No, but he's going to be at something like YMCA event, be like, man, if I never messed up my knee, I would have been out here. I was in seven threes in the game seven. I was like that. We could have won chips together.

Once MPJ takes podcasting seriously. He doesn't already? He's just doing streams here and there. He's guest appearances. You're right. MPJ's already doing that a little bit. He's already doing it a little bit. I think he's,

I think he's serious right now. Well, he doesn't have a podcast right now, so it's not serious. Yeah. I think he's for real. Yeah. Next thing we can do, it's getting us some TikToks for a couple games. Let's talk a little bit about NBA White Boys. Moving over to American white boys.

Who are the white boys of the year so far at every single position in the NBA? Point guard through center. Point guard, obviously, Peyton Pritchard. Yes. Is it obvious? P. Rabbit. I think he's run away. He's run away.

Well, yeah. Who's the guy? Yeah. Come on. Every time you can't throw a shot at B-Podd. Every time we do it in a video, Warriors fans are like, not enough B-Pods 8. They want more. It's pretty, yeah, it's Pritchett does exist.

Pritchard is at the one. Austin Reeves is the one? I think Austin at the two. Austin Reeves at the two. Austin is can't go with the two. Why? John Kinnibble's got to be on this list. No, we're putting Conn at the three.

He can't go with the three. Cooper Flagg's got to be on this list. We're putting him at the four. Thank you for saying the list. And you're cooking us. I do think Austin Reeves should be the point guard over Peyton Pritchard. I don't know if Payton Pritch is having that. It's just a regular Payton Pritchard year.

He's not doing anything crazy. He's perennially whiteboard of the year. Okay. He's just the coolest. Yes. Yeah. So, AR's having one of the most efficient scoring seasons like ever at the room. Understand.

If Peyton Pritchie is a step back three. Yeah. Come on, man. Well, now we can't pay for him. Now we can't do it. Now we can't do it. AR's the one. So also reads that the one.

Conconinip we at the two. Cooper flag. Cool black can go three or four. Depending on who else. Step back in the chair is insane. Oh my. I'm slid back. Cooper flag is either three or the four,

depending on who else we want to show white boy appreciation to. Who else? Who else is out here for the whites? Christian Brown's been hurt. He's not in delegation. He wasn't going to make the list of the tell you. Hell no. He's been removed from the delegation.

Colin Gilepski, but we already got our field. Yeah, we already got our backboard filled up, so it can't be him. Okay. You'll put Daddy on the list? No, he don't count. He's not white American. Come on.

I'm kidding. Jay Huff could be a five. Jay Huff. Calk Runner. Hey, where's he from? Shepard, there's not a white wings.

I think he's from here. I think he's. Corprenner's definitely a Caucasian. Yeah. He's definitely from here. Yep, he's. There's not a lot of wings, though.

Loki Samhouser's been a missile all year for the shooter. Ooh, that's good, too. Sam Housers might deserve a nod. Sim Houser been moving different this year. You're right. I just didn't want to put any Celtics on. You're right.

That's not fucking. Yeah. No self-th. After that insane display of stepback. Okay, so no, no Samhouser. The silence did kill me.

I thought time just froze for a second. It made it worse. You were just like moving forward back with the chair. He said, do you want to go Kupu Flagg and Chet? Chet? Yeah.

So, Ray and Chant, made an all-star team? He should be at the five. Yeah. It's kind of still, though. We're at the four. Cooper flag chat.

I mean, another center. There's more white centers and there's small forwards. You go that way. Yeah, we'll go with the double big line up here. Now, which white five doing a reward? There's a lot of white fives. Colgbrenner.

Carl Furner. The first name. Is there a lot of white fives? Does there a Hardinstein count? No. No. No. If you ask them, he'd be like, nah.

I know what he would say. Cogbrenner, Cornet. Corinette might deserve a nod Court of the Spurs Oh, Luke Cornett does You're right Lou Cornett

Yeah All right so put I used to think I was a gimmick player Just out there for Cornett Yeah, I said Okay

I like that Does Sam Hauser make the cut No, no No No And it's your fault It's because of you That he doesn't

You could add Two subjects on the list But you want to be foolish Luke Cornell was gonna count For me I ain't going to lie

It's cool though He's got to he's gone he left is Stephen Adams white no no I mean I know he's not from America but like he's from yeah I'm just thinking American whites he's really shepherd

hmm that man's from we are not putting New Zealand white I know there's like he's like indigenous people and also he's like Polynesian too he is yes he has like

Samoan tattoos and shit oh you're right I think his mom's side is yeah you're right okay you can't just get that no no you can't just get that you can't just get that

It's offensive. Is it offensive? I don't know. Like, if I pulled up to the tattoo shop right now, and I was like, yo, I want a Samoan sleeve. I want a Samoan sleeve. I want a Samoan sleeve. Can me this right here.

Are they going to tell me no? What they say no? That is a good question. I mean, they're not turning down money, obviously. If you're going to look at you crazy, if they ask someone like from there and ask you about it, and you'll be like, oh, no, I just thought it was cool. It's like, oh.

People got Chinese. simple is all the time. It's offensive all the time. I don't even know. It just looks cool. This means peace, bro. Next thing we're here to do. We're going to play an imposter game.

Beesoles, send out the first round of text. Yes, yes, yes. This one's going to be a little bit different. Beesles is in a text as prompts. To describe a player, we have to decide, fits the prompt. We're going to write it on our whiteboard and reveal. Two of us have the same prompt. one of us has a different prompt and we had to reveal and everybody should

to argue for why they're not the one that has a different prompt. We're not the imposter. Okay. We got to figure out who clearly did not have the same sentence as everybody else. Gotcha. Okay. So we all got a different prompt. Two of us had the main prompt.

One of us is an imposter and got a fucking fake prompt. Okay. All right. I got my word written down. All right. Got it. Three, two, one. Zion Williamson.

Say your name. Jeff. Janus. Okay. Okay. What is the prompt? All right. The prompt is, who's the freakest player in the league?

Oh. Wait. Hold on. We can all. All of kind of makes sense. I don't know. They all got something to them. Isaac, would you like to start?

With your explanation? Do I need an explanation? I think I might be safe, y'all. I think the heat might be off of me. I think we can look elsewhere. All right, I will go. Okay. With Yannis, I think one, obviously the term is not created because of your quote-unquote

freakiness, but when your nickname is the Greek freak and then you now are allowed to play with the double entendre, you can go there. Then I think when you go on Instagram live and you have a bell that as soon as you press it, freakiness ensues, I'm going to say you are one of the freakier players in the NBA. I'm crying, man. Listen, I put Steph. Now, he's not as loud and rambunctious when it comes to these, the levels of freakiness. But if you are tapped in, there's been some things post on the internet, some things said.

You probably shouldn't have said. Yeah, yeah, buddy. You're the imposter. You got to say. What was it category? It was the cornyest player in the NBA. And the only reason why I put Steph is because, bro, he'd be ore farming shamelessly, bro. Last night against the Denver Nuggets,

DeColio went through a pass out of bounds and stuff did the Mello thing where he caught it. He was fully cold and he was like, just like all farming. It's like, what are you doing? The corneous though?

It's just tough of mind. I saw that clip and somebody quote tweeted it and they say, Kelsey Plum, you can finally rest. Yeah. I'm like, what are you doing?

All right, second round going out. Let me know you guys at your text. Oh, fucks. Damn, getting NBA Kelsey Plum allegations is terrible. It is tough.

All right. I got my second text. He is top five for sure. I've not got my text yet. All right. Let's see. L-texter? Definitely.

Slow typeer? What's your word for a minute? On the keyboard? Yeah. 75. Is that good? I don't even know. I actually don't know.

It's been so long. Me too. I have no idea what I expected. All right. They've been sent. Okay. Let's do it. What do we got?

you guys ready? I got my text. I need to find a name. Yeah, I actually don't know what to put on this. Yeah, this one's tough. I want to choose my answer carefully. See, this is hard

because even this, I'm like, how plenty do I want to be? I know. Okay. All right. Got my name written down. Here we go. Oh, hold.

Do I want to be mean? Yep. I don't know if I do. Three, two, one. I have Joelle Embed. I have KD. And I have Jalen Brown. Okay.

What is the category? All right. The category is who's the most overrated player in the NBA? Okay. Why is Kevin Rand overrated? Because I feel like at this point, like, we're getting to the point where KD, where we ask Fun and bullshit

No No no You think about it Technically No we're like We're like You get to KD And it's like

All right well you know He's KD And I'm now I'm at the point Well I'm like What is that mean? What is that what is that mean He's gonna go to a team The last couple team

That he's been on Haven't succeeded We've seen him lose a step Even though he can still get the numbers I'm not sure that like Kevin Durant is the Kevin Durant That we all talk about Yeah Mvip Kahnett

Only because people are calling him the MVP when he's clearly not that. I don't think he's a top four candidate at all. I understand when it comes to the storyline of it, but Tatum is out. Tatum is out. No one thinks your team is going to be on nothing. You guys are precisely like the number two team in the Eastern Conference right now.

Yeah, I got Joellen B. MVP. No worries. Need be said. Relative the expectations of talent level. I ain't go like. The least successful of any all-time great talent? It's kind of tough. I don't know if you've known,

but you have exposed your post. or tell. You did. This is back-to-back time that we've known that you're lying and you said, no words need to be said. I'm not even lying, though. I meant the slander is low-hanging fruit, is that we know with Joelle and Bede, the most disappointing playoff player that nobody is Hayton on more than Joel and

Bede. We can go on the most hated player. No. You don't they hate and overrated are the same thing? Not necessarily. I think in this case, the damn sure is. People were saying, you, the only time you ever talked about Jewel and Bid is how he didn't deserve his MVP.

That sounds like you thought he was overrated that year. Listen, that's fine. That was three years ago. So you think he'd leave lost attack? A little bit because, like, I think everybody has now gotten to the point that I was three years ago. I was like, this guy is. So you're ahead of the curve, so now you think it's overrated? I'm just talking about like lifetime impression of the player.

I also know that you think that Joel Embed is one of the more underrated players. You're right. This is me. I don't believe this is all. I'm the imposter. He wrote the star least likely to win a ring for me. Yeah. That was my category.

I would never. Leonard Joelle Embed I'm lying I love the dude He's my guy I respect the man I can't even pretend All right round number three

Text being sent off I only did two rounds Oh okay Never mind there's two rounds There we go In this episode God damn it I told them before

I would lock the fuck in man I did four prompts Okay And that's in the episode Yo we all see y'all later two and a for fucking Thursday

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