The Deep 3 Podcast - We Gave One Hot Take For Every 2024 NBA Team | Ep. 58

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

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I don't know if there's anything like... Die, bitch! This memo just got up and stomped out a centipede as soon as you started the cameras. What an intro to the episode. My bad. We recording. Yeah, what a great way to start it off. That's hilarious.

Yeah, man. Welcome back to another episode. As you see by the title, today we are taking a break from the news of going on with the NBA preseason and everything. And taking a second to give 100. take for every single NBA team in the league. Listen, I'm ready to see what I have because I was trying to like cook up some stuff. Listen, I have some, I have some takes that I feel are kind of hot. I also have some stuff that might be a little cold, right?

I don't know. We'll see. But I think that all of them are like at the very least bold predictions for what's going to happen. Listen, I am calling out a little bit of bullshit today. Oh, no, listen, that's that's baked in. Like, you know me. Just my movies.

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So even outside the giveaway, follow us on Twitter to get more content from us. It's a must. Yeah, man. So real quick, before we get into it, I got this video idea from Alvini-Linguini on YouTube. I saw he did this video like a week ago. Shout out. Shout out to him. His video link will be in the description.

Stole the idea straight from him. So go watch his video to see his hot takes. I didn't watch it because I didn't want to be blinded by his hot takes and steal some by accident. But props to him for the great idea. Shout out to Linguini. Shout out. Shout out to Linguini. Oh man, let's get into it

The cranium is crazy Oh my god I mean I don't know what to say So what we're gonna do is instead of each of us giving one take about every team That's way too much Each of us is gonna give a take about 10 teams so it's you know one take per team for the entire league If we if every one of us gave a take for each team That's 90 hot takes. Y'all can't handle that much heat in one episode. It'd be ridiculous

We can't handle that much heat. That's too much. 90 hot takes in the single video is ridiculous. Brain would explode. Yeah, man. I always end up doing the first one when we do this type of stuff So we're gonna mix it up today. Mo, you go first. We'll reverse the order. Mo Donovan me. Who's your first hot take for it? Hot take the MVP of the 2024 NBA season will be LeBron James He'll be the oldest MVP And NBA history could have been That's for Lakers

Yeah, this is for the Lakers As a whole We've got to make sure you tell people Which team it's for Because each one is by team Yeah Yeah Because each of us has a division

That we're going by as well Yeah, yeah exactly That's what's the way is going to be blocked out Okay, so you're LeBron's gonna win MVP All right That's definitely a hot take I'll give you that

It is that Listen that old man is not winning MVP he's just done chasing it like i i think that he will have a good season especially if he could stay healthy but like the foot was obviously a problem and it's kind of i don't know how to feel because he he didn't get surgery on a foot that was clearly like messed up for months and so we'll see we'll see how he looks come december because after like i think he'll be fine in october right he's probably going to be good he's going to be running fast again like he wasn't doing that a lot towards the end of last season

December around Christmas is when we're going to see like okay how like is he going to take the regular season serious is he going to try and actually go for this but that's that's hot so yeah sounds very bullish on the Lakers

their outlook because I think O'Brien will be much better than we saw him last playoffs when he was dealing with that foot injury like you said but I think because they saw him not be able to do a full playoff run at his age with that type of load there's just I think there's no chance

they give him the type of usage needed to win MVP I think he's been it very clear he wants Austin Reeves Danielsor Russell Gabe Vincent Ruhrouacimoo all these dudes to take more and more touches off his plate so like if you want to get real hot

I mean I think there's a better chance Anthony Davis is an MVP conversation than there is LeBron But we've been talking about AD eclipsing LeBron ever since like fucking after the first championship bro

and it just never happens and I hate to say it happened last year I think I mean that's okay to say he was a fucking monster defensively with his defensive impact that's fair to say but overall I don't think everyone will anyone will ever look at it as long as lebron james is alive nah this is a d's team not give the give the ball to ad during the last shot type shit you know what I'm saying yeah so as long as the lakers when it comes to some of the requirements you need in order when MVP is of course you have to have the team success for the most part there of course, outliers. But with how deep the Lakers appear to be, I'm expecting them to be

maybe a top three, worst case scenario, four seed. And on top of that, of course, you got to have your narratives. Kevin, you got to have someone like Kendrick Perkins over here, making out landish takes and all that. Deciding the EMP by himself. Exactly. He has to have some allegations to beat. And I think LeBron will, you know what I'm saying, probably face those washed allegations. And then he has to put up the stats. That might be the, the hardest part because there's so much to go around but it's not it's not a scorching hot take in my opinion yeah i mean i think it's a good narrative i think that is a good narrative old as MVP like turning 40 winning every that that would be a good narrative so if they're the one seed or the two

seed even i think he'll be in those compos for sure so i see what you're going for sure it would be it would be funny because it would probably be like a like a steve nash type of MVP where you have just 22 and 8 and it's like he's not averaging 30 like some people like no lebron's not an average 22 he's probably going to average like 24.5 yeah which he well coasting so it might be like a a team oriented one which is weird for a lebron james MVP narrative yeah we'll we'll see we'll see i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not buying it but props to the hotness on that one um that's why we're here yeah all right so i'll go with my first one i'm to stay in the western conference i'm overreacting like crazy to the first preseason game that i like actually watched

and i'm going to say that victor wimbanyama is going to be first team NBA all defensive team he's he's going to be defensive all first team this man stole the ball from the three point line that was crazy i don't know if i've ever seen anything like that every three minutes he's doing something where you're just looking at the screen is like what just happened like like what's going down like it's insane shot off at least yeah he was on the top of the three point line i think it was maybe was isaiah joe was driving from the left wing and you call that helping at the nail when the person at the top of the arc slides over to the frito line to stop the driver he didn't even really slide over he just fucking reached over with his gigantic dragon wingspan and knocked the ball out

then ran the other way and finished the dunk ridiculous play it just it doesn't make sense i think that there's going to be so many plays we're going to see a lot of plays like that and even if the blocks don't necessarily get there you are going to be able to you're going to see like if you're watching the games just how much he impacts every drive to the basket every time like if somebody even has a wide open three quote unquote they're going to think about like oh is when be going to come out and block my shot to the second like to the second row people are going to be thinking how to score and how to move offensively so he he's he's going to be his team on defense like he's just he's crazy so that's my hot take for the spurs i like that i like that

with how the spurs were using him not you know having him guard chet one-on-one or anything like that and having him be sort of a free safety for you football watches out there similar to what the bucks how the bucks use yonis i think it's one of the best ways to use him honestly because of his mobility and he's just a natural like disruptor anything around him you will feel him you know so yeah he's going to definitely be one of the better defensive prospects I've ever seen that's obvious but I think I don't know if it'll be all defense first thing just that's just hard like when you have so many you have yonish you have jaron you have all these front court players but he's going to be one of the best defensive rookies you've ever seen like I think that's almost a guarantee like there's no

world where he's not uh above average is too conservative there's no world where he's not a great defender whatever word you want to use like that's a guarantee yeah and I think the highlight plays Like the highlight plays for him are going to rack up very quickly and I think that when like when we talk about MVP and sometimes you know guys get like a narrative push a narrative push the highlights are going to push when B's case because you're just going to be able to play that real that ESPN has you're just going to be able to just run it on loop and every time it's like oh my goodness what is happening. So yeah. It's going to be ridiculous. I like that. That's actually like it's a hot take because it's hard. But it's that's probably going to be one. the more plausible ones on this list. Absolutely, I agree. We'll see. There's some, there's some colder.

No, I believe in it. I do believe in it. But there's some colder takes, I think, on this. Yeah, I have some very cold ones for teams I couldn't think of anything. More conservative. I go my first one. Sticking to the unicorns, going with the Celtics.

My take for the Celtics is Christos Porzingis is going to be their third best player, not Drew Holiday. And I think it'll be like, Pretty easily, I think it'll, the conversation will be more. Is he their second best player on some nights rather than fourth? I think that's very plausible. Yeah, I think that's a respectable take.

Honestly, whenever any person of that color touches that, where's that green jersey? Yo, and sister, he just goes to another notch. Like, yo, he's going to be a, he's going to be a, he's finnob, bro, you thought Nick's Perzingus was something? Boston Porzingis, top 10 player ever on God, bro. You saw what Peyton Pritchie did the day he got his new contract. He was like, listen, the city loves me like that.

Oh, I'm going crazy. He was playing like Jose. I won. This is their homeland. Like when people take trips to their ancestral homeland, that's white basketball players playing in Boston. Facts. Literally. Literally.

That's great. To be serious. That first preseason game. Yeah. He was just moving as fluidly as we've seen. In the recent years, last year he looked really good too, so it's not like it's something that's like unforeseen. But it's, you know, they had those injuries in the offseason

that prevented him from playing the World Cup. So there was like a little bit of concern that maybe he comes out looking a little sluggish, has to play himself into shape. Not even a little bit. He looked ridiculous. He looked as untapped as he's ever been in the entire history of his career. He was moving like you thought you'd want to see him move every play

when you saw him as a youngster in New York when you were like, oh, there's flashes of greatness. It was just greatness all game. Yeah. And it makes sense because, The Derek White Hight train was rolling last year. And I think like we talked about last episode kind of the role that Drew Holiday is going to play. And so with him and Derek White in the back court, like you're not going to need as much offensively from that spot from Drew Holiday in terms of like creating from the perimeter and doing stuff like that.

So I think like in terms of filling a need and doing stuff that the Sussex actually need like, Porzingis is they're going to, he's going to be the go-to guy in a lot of situations for them attacking from certain spots. on the floor. So it completely makes sense to think that. So I, I like that take a lot, though. Lex. I agree. It's not bad at all. I respect it. And if the Celtics are going to become the finals favorites or the Eastern Conference favorites to what many people believe, this take has to come into fruition. And Christophers Prazingis, I agree. Needs to follow up with the Boston Celtics legendary white man status. It was written. I wish the next one. Yeah, so my next one, we're scorching hot. We're going to the Los Angeles Clippers.

Kawhi Leonard and PG-13 get traded this season. Oh, shit. Hot as hell. Now, listen, I'm not 110% sure if I will stand on this take. It's a hot take. I'm doing what y'all click the video to do, bro. All right? But I will say, if you're Steve bomber, you have to be, you have to have some type of hesitancy.

when it comes to giving Kauai and PG that max contract or an extension because they have nothing to show for it. Now, yes, you know, I'm saying injuries happen and all that, not their fault. It's literally uncontrollable. But at the same time, it's like how much longer are you going to possibly prolong the process of needing to rebuild just for hope? Do I think this has happened? No, because of relocation, shit like that. But it's just an odd take, man. You have to think it happens at least a little bit.

That's the point. You can't just not think it's going to happen. Keep this energy away from me. Yeah, man. Eventually, it feels like the timer will be up pretty soon and impatience should set in. But like you said, because of the stadium thing, it's hard to believe they go full tank mode when they don't have a lot of their picks going forward and they're investing billions into a new stadium. But it'd be nice to see him trade one.

Yeah, exactly. That's why, if I was to think anything, it would be that one of them would be traded. I think both of them getting traded this year would be like franchise suicide for them, but especially going into the new stadium. But yeah, that's kind of crazy. But listen, it's a hot take. You did your job. Exactly.

Honestly, do believe if a trade was to happen, I agree with you, Donovan. It would be one of them. It'll probably have to be after the regular season. and I probably whoever has more value doesn't really matter you're probably going to reap similar assets from both of them because of their status as players today but if they were do that they could possibly be put in a little bit of a more favorable position

because of the flexibility that they be granted so what is a Kauai trade package you're going to look like these days like who how do you have faith in an older plus over 30 Kauai like what do you give up for that look any conversation revolving around Kauai Leonard is guaranteed giving you a brain hernia dude like it just I can't think clearly when I think about Kauai as basketball player in any discussion yeah he's a teaser tricky one these days yeah I right Donovan what's your next take um let's see I we'll go to to to my magic hot take both Palo Ban caro and Franz Wagner make the all-star team this year oh I like it I think

Listen, we are a pro Franz podcast, so I'm with it. A hundred percent. The way that Franz was playing in the World Cup was fantastic. We've already seen flashes of Paolo. Even last year, like, even after he slowed down, after his, like, insanely hot start, he still averaged 20 points a game. And I think that, like, they had, the magic had chances to go out and maybe speed up their timeline, go get another superstar, really make this push.

But they didn't. They're staying on this trajectory. And so I think that because of that. the ball's going to be in Franz's hands it's going to be in Paulo's hands I think a year to jump from Paulo is going to be crazy I think Franz can do

absolutely everything you want on the floor and the magic have a very good chance to be in the playing maybe even sneak into the playoffs if they win a couple of those playing games like they have I think they're a lock for the playoffs

a lot for the playoffs another hot take let's keep rolling okay so I'm glad you said that because I had that as my first hot take for the magic but I didn't know how like how hot that was because I I feel like the magic hype train is kind of going like I think that they're also like I guess like a lock fuck no yeah that not a lot but like how how confident are you for the playoffs for the magic not confident I love them too but next year I'll be like oh they're a lock they'll be on like okay see time we're like oh this is the year they made the leap with this huge

young court yeah they could make the play in I think that's very plausible but there's so many there's a lot of teams out there they're going to be fighting for a small amount of spots especially when you take into consideration there's only six they're locked in so I would never use a word lock I wouldn't be entirely surprised if they made that leap and we're looking how the how the patients looked last year before Tyrese went down where you look up one day in December and you're like what the fuck to the five seed that's crazy but I wouldn't use the word lock yet no just because especially because the guard depth they don't have the guard room is so in flux there between all these young guys they've drafted but haven't quite stolen the job yet so like even if they figure out the point guard

spot which is probably Markell you have Cole Anthony and Jalen Sugg still to figure out who's gonna be the backup can one of them play alongside Markell if they do the spacing is weird you don't have a bona fide shooter there to play next to your wings and guard it's just a weird team that isn't have the parts needed to be a true winning team yet see and my rebuttal against that is that I think they just have enough shooting as they may not be perfect but this is a bare minimum stuff that they will be able to take. And I'm putting trust in the second year development of Paolo Bankero. I fucking love Wendell Carter, Jr.

He is probably, it's disgusting to say, but at the same time, not really because it shows how good he is. He's one of their like three best shooters on the entire team. And it's so awkward, you know, and when you think about how their team works as a whole, literally all of them, like they can play five out anytime they want. And every single one of these players, including every single one of these, these players they yeah because window window can shoot paolo he's not at zero franz he's not a zero of course marco fultz he can get that bitch up once in a while do i trust me okay okay he can't get it up

he can't get it up there's a difference between like successfully running five out and just putting five guys around the three point line and calling the five out and like that's probably what is going to happen for the magic like for a good portion of the season but i think that franz and palo are far enough in their in their development that they can both make make the all-star team and like if we see listen if some if some guys go down early one of them listen one of them might make them as like one of those reserves that you that get added on at the end but I do but I do think that like legitimately one of them should make the all-star team this year and yeah it'll be palo I'll say I'll say both I like it yeah I mean if they're running five out and they

star, Markell Fultz, Jalen Suggs, Frans, Palo, and Wendell and Wendell, if I see Palo Bancaro isolating a five out and driving to the rim, triple team of that motherfucker. Somebody's shooting the ball because none of those guys shoot above 36%. And I'm not closing out. I'm not going to slander. You're going to damn, you're making me an Orlando Magic fan, all right? Look out Wendell Carter Jr.'s three point percentage, bro. He shoots either at 36 or slightly above 36%.

Awesome. Great. How about Markle Foltz? How about Jaylen Suggs? I ain't talk about that. I ain't talk about that. I ain't talk about that either. And window Carter's space and saving grace.

Listen, he had a great shooting season, especially from Longman Range. I've seen his numbers. I love him. But as a collective, their lineup does not have the shooters it needs. Something that I see that I also like,

I'm in love with this team that almost, I don't want to say almost, but a lot of teams don't have this option as a five who can drive on close outs on a consistent basis. And that just like makes your offense. It's complicated to go ahead and guard. So I feel my last thing, I hate talking about the Orlando Magic for so long. But when I look at the Eastern Conference, there's at the bottom half of the Eastern Conference,

there's not a lot of teams where I am 110% sure that, you know, they are better than the Orlando Magic. On the bottom half, there's not a lot. Okay. So that's, so that's just, that's playoff territory. So you think they'll be in the playing race at least? Guaranteed. If not playoff Guarantees.

Playoff. Playoff race means like top 12 teams. I agree. I'll lock them in as a top 12 team in the east. You're disgusting. Put it on the board.

You're disgusting. All right. My next hot take. We're going to go to the Western Conference on the Portland Trailblazer side. I just might be, the number I'm about the same might be a little more conservative.

I don't know if it qualifies the hot take. So maybe we'll bump the number up. But my take is, for the Blazers, DeAndre Aden will be a top 10 center in the league next year. Is that too conservative? I think so. Top seven, fuck it.

The point is DeAndrean is going to be very good. DeAndre Aten is a top seven center in the league next year. I think people are too quick to write him off because of a team struggle that he was a center of, but it's not like he was just minced meat out there. He wasn't pathetic. And I think a new franchise that, like I said, plenty of time on this podcast has a coach that doesn't hate his guts now and it's just a new

environment that's away from all the turmoil I think he'll be significantly better listen you have to go higher with your number because I so in our rankings I had Aitin as the eighth best center in the league last year so that's that's right there so basically like so you're just saying yeah he's going to stay at the same level most people in the country right now would play him like 15 So listen Most people think DeAndre Aden is like The shit beneath their shoe right now They write him off so easily

And look look I put him at eight And I put Sabonis at five But remember we gave Sabonis The like that type of ranking Like the respect ranking So if we actually do this right Agen's probably top seven right now Is Aten going to be top five

At the end of next year No I don't know if he's so easily top seven I mean we can rattle them off Yokic Embed Anthony Davis Bam out of bio subonis, then Cat and Gobert, whichever order, whatever, but they both deserve to be above Aiden.

At the end of the next season, is Aiton jumping either one of them? He'll have to do for my hot take the rain, true, so yes. Damn, bro. I don't know who, but he's going to be top seven. That's not for him to answer. Yeah. Okay. One of them is going to fall off, and it's going to be more about Aiton just being great. All right, that's fair.

All right. Let's get into my, is it my turn now? Yeah. all right cool staying in the Pacific Division the Sacramento Kings will be fighting for their playoff lives I don't know if this is this might be I think this is a hot take considering there were what the second set last season or whatever but three yeah yeah like looking at the Western Conference now I think they're they don't really no they were the three C okay that's cool okay cool anyways looking at the Western Conference this year So many teams are so good and someone has to be left out.

Okay, C's making progression. You have to assume that the Dallas Mavericks are going to just play better basketball. I don't know how much better they're going to, but they're going to be better. Zion, the Pelicans, you already know the whole spiel if he's healthy. Holy shit. Bro, the Minnesota Timberwolves, Anthony Edwards is making his lead. Fantastic, Minnesota. The Memphis Grizzies, you can't expect him to fall off at all.

The Lakers got better. The Warriors are super interesting with CP3. I think he's a super important addition. So it's like, where the fuck are, like, someone's going to have to be out of the playoffs. And I don't know if I 110% trust the Kings. Now, this is a crazy-ass graphic. Who made this? This is wild.

A Kings fan, obviously. That is crazy. I don't know. Oh, why his joke is there too? That's so weird. But yeah, like, if I was to put a bet on either on any team missing the playoffs, of course, I would have to put the Pelicans there. Of course, you might have to put the maybe the Minnesota Timberwolves or actually, Pelicans, Dallas, and then I put the Kings. And it's tough, man.

There's like 10 teams that should make the playoffs this year. at least one there's going to be somebody who doesn't make it because of injury and after that someone's going to get very unlucky we didn't even name the clippers yet or if they have a semblance of health they're obviously going to be a playoff team like crazy stacked year for the west and it's like the Sacramento kings if i remember correctly i don't remember this team having many injuries last season like the only injury major injuries that happened were in the playoffs dearon fox had a fucked up pinky and obviously sabon has got his chest stomped out so but other than this They were clean as hell throughout the entire regular season. So it's like a little bit of time towards the end with the hand, but it wasn't anything major. Yeah. So some team has to make it. And sadly in this video, they're going to be outed. I think it's fair.

I think like, like you said, it's difficult. And they deserve respect after last year. But also they're still the kings. So like if you got to pick somebody, it's like maybe I'll just say they're going to be the fraud. It's like, I don't know. Yeah. It's hard. Like who else?

I can pick the warriors to drop out. everyone's thinking the you know Anthony Edwards is making an ascension the Timberwolves are a popular team for people to say are going to be sneaky good same thing with the with the thunder which realistically they might be the one

that actually doesn't make it if somebody has to be the chopping block but it's tough so I respect this take okay listen well I'm I'm staying on with the beam team I'm staying with the beam team this year I think they're gonna make the playoffs

I think that they're actually pretty good so I'm gonna stay with them yeah I mean they're all good that's the problem it's a lot of fucking good teams out there Okay, I don't think they're fraudulent. I'll say that. I'll say that. You have somebody like this.

None of these teams are like this. That's crazy. In a couple weeks, we're going to do our power rankings of Eastern Conference and Western Conference team, which will be like our pseudo standings. I'm going to be in hell. I don't know how I'm going to do this. I already came to decision who I'm outing, but I cannot release it in this video. Y'all got to wait. Stay tuned.

All right, Donovan, what's your next take? All right. We're going to stay in the West. A hot take. I do not care about the suspension. The Memphis Grizzlies are going to have the number one seed. Ooh. Wow.

I respect that. I think that the Grizzlies over the last two years have shown us that they can win regular season games at a high clip without John Morant. John missed 21 games last year. They went 11 and 10, 500. If I know that ties... I was going to see your prior. No, it wasn't. But if you are, if you're the Grizzlies and you have...

Mark is smart there, better and leader, still who could play very good defense for them. And at least to start the season, Marcus Smart, Desmond Bain, Jaron Jackson, Jr. You have a very good defensive infrastructure there. We all anticipate like an offensive leap for Desmond Bain a little bit in, in a Jaws' absence. So they've been the second seed each of the last two years. So even like when they were playing really well without Jock and whenever, they were just like mid without jaw they find a way to win games no matter the situation and so i think that being being the number one seat is very much in contention for them

and whenever job does come back he's going to be the battery that they need and they are going to go and get the number one seat for sure i just think about it like their standard one five pick and roll mark smart on ball stephen adams defendant the pick and roll with jaron jackson as the help side duck guy from the corner that's incredibly different to score against. That gives you such a high defensive floor. You put in some confident wings who can match up with the top wings in the league. They're going to be no matter what a solid team every night. Absolutely. I agree. In order for this to actually come to fruition, which I want to say this is absolutely outlandish, but Desmond Bain, like I think last season or last

episode that we talked about, he probably has to be have an all-star season in order to come true. and then to double up Jaron Jackson Jr. has to do the exact same thing, probably even a little bit better. And Zaire Williams who's like, got a rebound. Ben, yeah, he got a rebound, be consistent, don't follow out and all those shit. And Zari

Williams, who had a down year compared to his rookie season, which was actually pretty good. He needs to be, he's to fill in those shoes and be the solidified starter and surpass what they used to have, which is Dylan Brooks, which can't be too hard. You know what I'm saying? But also, Marks smarts to snap.

Marcus Marr has to be efficient and be that facilitator. I completely forgot about that. I completely forgot that didn't even factor into my mind that Dylan Brooks is not there to waste 15 shots a night for them. They're going to be so much more efficient. Oh my goodness. I love this take now. This is one of my favorite takes.

This is going to be great. They're going to be awesome. That is hilarious. Yeah, man, they're going to be good for sure. I'm not going to go as far as I'm going to predict the one seed because, you know, the Nuggets exist and I don't see them taking the foot off the gas. but it won't be shocking if last year's two seed becomes the one seed like that would be very very plausible and listen and they were the two seed by like two games they were like two games back

of the nuggets imagine if let's imagine if jad doesn't do what he does and he's there for the extra 13 game that he missed like they they very much could have made a push towards the one seat towards the end of the year yeah yeah and i can see yeah and i don't think that i want to say like i almost said john moran's going to have like an MVP type season but obviously he's immediately eliminated from all those discussions quite literally. But I think that he's going to have a fantastic season. And he might, I think it average, what, 26 last season or whatever? He might have a 30-point season.

Ooh, it's hard to make that jump from 26 to 30. That's a very high. It's harder than you think. It's not just a matter of like taking more shots. It's difficult to be that level of score consistently. But again, I can see it. Not bad. Not bad.

Is it? I'll do my next one. There we go. Back to me. Jumping back to the Eastern Conference. We're going to go to the Raptors. Listen, there's been too much positivity here. I think we've all been extremely positive with these takes.

It's time to shit on a franchise. I'm sorry Raptors fans. I think they're going to be a bottom five team in the east and end up tanking to close the year out. We all believe it. Messiah's finally going to be forced to make trades. He's going to trade his son, O.G. Anobo, or Pascal Seacom.

Something's going to get done because this team is going to be tanking for whoever's at the top of next year's draft. man I love to see it because I almost genuinely want to believe that he is washed him giving him the benefit of it out for some weird reason because of the weird track record history or whatever but this this team is nothing you know what I'm saying you have no future you're just in the middle of nowhere

and you have no true plans you know what I'm saying I think you're just doing Scotty Barnes major to service if he is your end all be all potential franchise player by continuously having him play with Pascal Siakum who in some senses can be redundant and not help amplify the skills that you know what I'm saying he's supposed to be really good at so I agree yeah I just think there's no world where sheakum is a raptor by the end of the trade deadline everything media day told me everything I need to know they talk so much about certain players on team last year were selfish we got to play differently and then clearly just

we're not prioritizing their best player he's going to 100% be traded and yeah it's going to be a whole new look team next year you know what and to go ahead and to go ahead and and dive right back into the Western Conference the Utah Jazz They will my hot take for them is they will trade for the next Disgruntled Star this season This fucking pictures on the screen

This is crazy This is so crazy No, I never see this before The audio listeners It's this meme that's going around of What's his name? Kevin James Paul Bart Ball Cup

Kevin James The meme of him shrugging It's a picture of a Sayu Jiri's face on the body But it's wild because he low-key looks like Kevin James And it just looks like a, it just looks like a blackface picture You know what he also looks like bro He looks like fucking y'all ever seen That's a Raven

He looks like Corey Cory Max here whatever his name is too It's a round head What was you take for the jazz? Yeah So speaking yeah Speaking of the Utah Jazz, you know what I'm saying? They're going to go ahead and trade for the next disgruntal star, whether it be this regular season or as soon as the offseason ends.

And I don't know what the point might be, but if they go ahead, they might be cooking something with having Lari play the three and also trading for something like Pascal Siakum for whatever vision. So I don't know if that moves anything for them. It is an interesting move and they just have an abundance amount of picks And I'm not sure how high Pascal Seaccom trade value will be You know what I'm saying So they may be able to strong arm them

And just do something interesting Yeah listen I think Keonté George might be their point guard In the future They have a big forward They have a center Listen if a two to three type of guy becomes available in the trade market

I can see them being all over it It's exactly what they need Listen I'm gonna go out They're gonna get Paul George That'd be cool According to the most hot take, the game, Paul George. I almost wanted to say for my hot take, Keante George is going to be the best Utah Jazz point guard ever.

But that was not quite enough. That'd be great. All right, you won the next one. What are you got, Donovan? All right. Listen, we're going to do some positivity here. The Charlotte Hornets are making the playoffs. I like it.

I'm very pro hornets this year. They're going to make the playoffs. Last week, everybody thought that I was so anti-Lamello Ball. They think that I don't like him. I happen to like Lamello Ball very, very much. That is not true. I just think that there are some things that we can get to that at a later time. You have a playoff choker after you're two.

The TikToks are still there. It's sprinkles. It's just sprinkles of choking, okay? There's been two big games. There's been two big games. the Hornets have had to play in in the playing tournament they've lost by 30 in each of them and Melo has sucked in both of those games okay come on now come on now okay anyways I think that lamella ball is a very good player I think that the Hornets are getting a lot of pieces back

they ended up right like lamello missed a bunch of games last year and they won like 27 games They're going to get him back. Miles Bridges is back in the fold, right? Exactly. We'll see another arrest warrant. Another arrest warrant got put out today. We'll see Brandon Miller's coming into the fold. But their defense at the-

Scary Terry, don't fucking forget him. You know I can't forget him. That's my guy. But their defense at the end of last season was very inspiring. And I think that now also Kelly Ubre is gone, but I think that that kind of makes the, offense a little bit, you know, more well-rounded, they, they had some inklings of like a very competent team last year. And so I just think that like some teams at the bottom of the Eastern

conference, like the Raptors, who, as you just mentioned, are going to fall out. There's space for them to get into the playoffs. I think that they do. I agree. Listen, we know Terry Rozier is a good combo guard to play next to the Lamello and do some of that off-strible scoring. So you have two competent ball handlers that can do that. Brandon Miller slots in nicely at the time. the three, Miles Bridges is going to be there doing Miles Bridges things. Mark Williams is their center of the future. The line that makes sense now. And you can see a vision where these people keep taking steps and this can eventually be a, you know, at least solid, competitive team. They're not going to be a dumpster fire every year. Like a lot of people look at them last

year and assume they're just like in hell like they were like the Blazers of last year. And it's not the case at all. That's what happens whenever your star player misses a bunch of time and your other star player is a delinquent who's kicked out of the league for a year. You're going to be trash. Yeah, that is true. Um, I don't know if I believe in the whole playoff talk, but I do definitely do, I definitely do indeed see them being like a 35, 38 winnish team. And if they do that, that is a W of a season compared to what they were over the last year, two years. You know what I'm saying? So I can agree with that. Brandon Miller needs to absolutely ball out. And also another X factors, Gordon Hayward just simply has to, you know what I'm saying? Be healthy. He's not exactly. He's going to miss 35 games. this year like he does every year. He doesn't matter.

We don't care about Gordon Hayward. He's honestly not even a constant. He's really like a constant piece at this point. You know that you are going to miss two months of Gordon Hayward every single season. So, yeah, that's pretty good. All right. Wow. Oh, my God.

Look at this thing that Nicol pulled up. He pulled up an old Moat tweet. He made a video where he said Lamello and Miles Bridges is a new CP3 and Plus. No, listen, this is out of context. I was clickbaiting. I was talking. When I made this video, this was me going off the dome. I'm like, yo, they might be the closest thing to Lob City.

And I was comparing it. How is that picture out of context then? Listen. You literally equated them to Lob City and then said, yeah, I was comparing them to Lob City. What are we miscontrolling here? Simply Lobcity, that's it. None of the success. None of the chemistry buildings they've done or anything like, bro, they had success.

Let's not like, let's not act like this is. They were stuck around exits every year. That's success for this organization. We're talking about the clippers here. You think we talk about the Lakers. Okay. All right. Next.

This is before, yeah, let me not even get into that. But go ahead. My next team is the Oklahoma City Thunder. Am I take for them is they're going to have two all stars this year. Let's go Let's go I don't know who the second one's gonna be Could be Giddy

Could be J-Dub Could be Chet I think all four of them Are eventually gonna be Near all-star level players Maybe maybe Giddy doesn't quite Take the scoring leap And he's just like a great starter

Maybe not quite all-star level I don't know But out of those three guys One of them is gonna make a leap Probably two of them And I think one of those leaps Happens this year I'm with it

I'm with it I think the Thunder Are going to be really good I think that they make that leap I think listen you want to talk about how it takes for the thunder they're they're going to be top six this year oh that's hot the thunder are going to be out of the plane race and they are going to have a legitimate spot in the playoffs this year graduating nice yes i am i am on the thunder bandwagon

this year man if this happens josh giddy has to be like bob coozy bro like he has to be what you envision bob coozy being at the air 2023 24 going to be snapping he's going to be hitting you with all the most basic simple moves doesn't have a hesitation to memory bro he's just gonna hoop run straight line drives and all day he knows his angles I think the most likely all-star caliber player is j-dub

I think that would be the least surprising one then chat if he somehow became a rookie all-star which is always unlikely yeah then giddy I fucking love he was making that leave I don't know which one I was watching a j-dub podcast and he was talking about how towards in the middle of the season

I believe he had some type of facial injury and he had to wear a mask after his second game in the NBA and his vision was completely fucked for the rest of the year and you know now that he has his vision back and he can actually see clearly on the court things might be actually scary yeah that actually helps surprisingly um so that's not it out of all those players it wouldn't it would shock me if jadub was to do it but i'd be really happy if it happened yeah let's to say I'm drafting J-Dubbin fantasy this year. Okay, go ahead. All right, let me go ahead, and we're staying in the Western Conference.

We're going to the Golden State Warriors. More positivity, shockingly. We will see all NBA Clay back this season. No, fuck me. Listen, listen, listen. That's not a hot take. That's not a hot take. That's a bad take.

How many years has he been all NBA in his career? I don't know. I think twice or three times. Let me see Clay I could be like You know he's two-time All-N-Bia you're right There we go It's probably like 2015-2016

Yeah exactly That's insane It's a hot-ass take Please tell me why One of my only reasons To say this is because of the new element of playmaking that Chris Paul brings to the table I think Clay's going to get a lot of different looks

A lot of looks that he isn't used to And a lot of looks that'll You know what I'm saying Tack on a few extra points On the board now You know what I'm saying? this could be a bad thing. He could be shooting the shit out that

motherfucker and shoot them out of games like he's done over the past. But hey, at the same time, this could be a good thing. It's a hot take. What do you expect? Do I believe it? Kind of.

Third, third team, NBA, I won't be mad at it. You said All-Star Clay. Okay, it's possible. You know, Wiggins made you a few years ago. Clay can get back in there. The fan vote for the Warriors is insane. They have the whole K-pop community behind them.

All-MBA? That shit don't matter. The K-pop stands are not voting for all NBA one of the 15 best players in the league that's that's clay Thompson right now to you let's see come back I hope for prosperity for Clay Thompson because it'd be it'd be cool to see him back on top again I'm not hold my breath though I'm not doing anything yeah donovan what you got all right all right we're going to go to the Atlanta Hawks nice I think the Atlanta Hawks are going to have a top five offense this year wow good you

Coming around. Not last year. They were top seven. They were top seven. Okay. For the whole year. That shit isn't hot. They were like top three, the two years before that.

Say top one with your chest. They'll be top three. That's as far as I'll go. That's as far as I go. But they will have one of the best offenses in the league. And listen, post-allster break after Quinn Snyder got hired, they were cooking offensively. And last year, Tray Young had his second worst three-point shooting season of his career.

And the only year that was worse was his rookie year. I think his three-point shot comes back. I think with everything that Quinn Snyder is bringing, the offense is going to be a lot more fluid. Now that John Collins is out of there, people are going to know exactly, like, where to be. And there's not like this clunkiness that has been there for the last couple of years. It isn't going to be there. Bogie's coming back because he was heard a lot last year. Yeah.

They're going to be good. and they're going to be cooking. And so I think that offensively, at least, they're going to have a majority of the answers every single night. I like it. Yeah, I think we're in for a humongous trade-young season. Huge bounce back year after his reputation just went down the toilet last year for some fair, some over-the-top reasons.

But yeah, I think that's, I would almost lock them in for a top five offense. Three, I think it's very likely. Yeah, I mean, naturally just common, I don't want to say, common sense, but this is the right thing to go ahead and guess because of the type of coach that Quinn Snyder is and the type of offense, free flow offense that he likes to run. And over, if anyone has watched Hawks interviews, which I don't expect you to. If you do, what is wrong with you? You might be a Hawks fan.

Trey Young has been emphasized to shoot a whole lot of threes. Spacing has been emphasized in offball movement as a whole. Now, I'm not going to say over here that, I'm not going to say that Tray Young's going to be looking like Prime Steph running around. screens and all that other stuff but to see 5% more of that is a blessing in disguise is a blessing you know what I'm saying and so with the spacing alone and just shooting more threes taking away a lot of just random twos mathematically there's no way that they don't end up being at least a top five I really want to say top three offense

in the entire NBA yeah I think this is of all it takes I would put this one at the top of most likely so far Dope. All right, my next one. All right, book club, guys. Grab something next to you, settle in. My hot take for the Brooklyn Ness this year is, by the time the season's over, Ben Simmons is going to be their best player.

All right. You're asking for a lot if Benson is flat on. You want to be disappointed. No, I'm just, I'm not going to ride them off. Injuries take time to recover from back injuries that make you miss an entire season. A lot of rust to be shaken off. I think what we see in the preseason. We've heard all summer.

Physically, he's going to be back to the level he was before. If not right away, by the all-star break, he'll look like old Ben Simmons. And I think with all the baggage of the Philly stuff behind him, all the pressure of a KD and Kyrie team off of his shoulders, he's going to be the most free. We've probably ever seen him in his career. There's almost no expectations on him. And we always say that it's like mental stuff behind him too and confidence issues. Whether that be true or not, this is the best scenario for him to brief free of those issues

and just go out there and ball like we know we can. And I don't see any reason to think that he won't do it this year He went ahead He went ahead and saw those 10 straight free throws And he was like, oh yeah, he's so back I'm just kidding That triple single is going to hit That's going to be great

It's also like I don't think he's that hard to be better than McHale Bridges I think we've kind of We've propelled them really high I think that that's an attainable Best Player in the league to best player in a team to pass up So I think if he's a low level All-Star again, it'll be Ben Simmons's team.

I don't think. I just don't see the vision. I think that Ben Simmons has a lot to do in order to be like their best player. And that team already is like clunky. And so I just I don't see like unless he, unless he improves in like his offensive like scoring fields, especially like from the perimeter and stuff like I just. I'm not with that. I can't see it.

Yeah. I don't know. The big reason that he was bad last year was clearly health issues. Him driving to the rim, he didn't have the fluidity in his hips. He couldn't get low and get past people. He just looked real stiff, you know? Again, as expected when you miss a whole season with a back injury. And I think that's the one thing we've seen in the first preseason game is that that looks completely back.

He's moving fast, getting downhill, driving his hips, turning around defenders, going to the rim. And I think that alone is going to make him a competent player again. Even if he's not quite as good. If he has the ability to drive to the rim and be an effective score again and use that rim gravity to use his passing more, that alone is going to make him far better than he was last year. Yeah, I agree. I think this is one of the better takes on this list.

If you watch Ben Simmons, it's preseason. Okay, can't take it to heart. But if you watched him during preseason, he looked so much more aggressive because he looks a lot more healthy and also looks like whatever mental kinks that he claimed to have or whatever, a couple years ago, they're gone. You know what I'm saying?

And so if the Brooklyn Nets do have some type of success this season and are fighting for their eighth seed lives or seventh seed lives or whatever it might be, Ben Simmons will 110% be back. Now, what does back look like? I don't think it's going to, it might not be all-star Ben Simmons, but I would expect it's here below that. And being the best player on the Brooklyn Nets, go ahead. is yeah 100% if they're a good team again it'll be because of ben simmons there's no if you're

predicting they're gonna make a leap and be competent post kairi and kd saga it'll be because of him and him alone there's no other swing factor that's going to make them a great team besides him yeah exactly i think macao bridges is the player that he is um i know the only thing that could like help him reach another notch is adding out an element of playmaking but i just simply don't think that's his bag and that's completely fine too it doesn't have to be his back shouldn't be his bag, that's Ben Simmons's back, you know, and having someone who is a driver in the pain and commands so much attention because of how big fast he is, you know what I'm saying? It's going to be hard to, it's going to be hard to neglect that, you know?

Yep. No, I'm saying, listen. He just don't like it. Listen. No, I don't like, I don't like him. I don't, I'm not buying stock in Ben Simmons this year. And I just, he's going to have to. to be an all-star for me, like, to believe that he's back.

I just, I just don't see it. Listen. Yeah, he's going to have to move hell on earth for you. You'd be like, yep, good player. Listen, no matter what, he's going to be trashed, too. Exactly. I said on Twitter. He can average 15.

Exactly. He can average 15 and 10. No all-star appearance? Trash. Like, I need that validation. I said on Twitter, I will go ahead and buy some Ben Simmons stock, and I caught the meanest, not even straight. He shot my heart, bro.

He said, this dude said, yo, if I'm buying Ben Simmons stock, I think he said something like, I'm going to go bankrupt or something like that with my rat ass infested home, bro. It was fucking crazy. That's a wild tweet. Hey, man, you can buy all the Ben Simmons stock now.

Listen, I bought that shit last year. He's been burning a hole in my pocket. I refuse to sell. I'm holding the line. I'm keeping it all. Now, that's up the crypto. That's NFTs right here. Crypto and if these.

Oh, man, that's funny. Give me the Ben Simmons Yacht Club. I'll buy all that if yous. Oh, man. All right. So, staying halfway through in the Eastern Conference. The Cleveland Cavaliers, here's my hot take, and I semi-believe it, and then I also semi-don't,

but I'm leaning towards semi-believing it, bro. So take that for whatever you will. No. Evan Mowley will not reach his full potential. as long as Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland are there doing what they do. What? Now, when it comes to this, this is a flex hot take because it's entirely dependent on what you believe Evan Mowgli's potential is.

If you ever think that he's going to be a 20 point per game score or a 22 point per game score, then this pot take probably is for you, you know what I'm saying? But if you don't think that's in his bag and he's just simply like an insane defender, one of the best defenders in the NBA, then, you know what I'm saying? This take really doesn't move you whatsoever. But I believe that from what he's shown in college and the flashes that he showed before Donovan Mitchell was there, he had 20 points per game ceiling. But because of what I see when it comes to, it's free throw percentage, the shot not

being as consistent as I would like, and overall it being deprioritized in my mind, I don't see Evan Mobley, like, ever ascending to the player that I thought he could be. But that's completely fine because he's a fucking insane on the defensive end. I disagree. I don't care if he scores 19 points per game. I'll know it's because there's two high-eaches guards next to him. But I think he'll still be the level of player you want him to be, regardless of the counting stats are there. And like you said, it comes down to that jump shot and whether or not he's ever able to fully develop that.

But I think if he does do that so we can play alongside those guards and Jared Allen effectively, then I think those two guards are the perfect fit for him as a four that doesn't need to be the main creator and can focus on. his defensive skills, I think that's the best duo you could possibly hope for him. Yeah, I think for him reaching his potential is just not getting like destroyed on the boards in a playoff series.

Like if he can just, if he can just, you know, like just man up and, you know, get these playoff rebounds, like he'll be okay. Like if Mr. Robinson cannot throw him around, he'll be all right. It's not even just that.

He does have to have an effective three-point shot. At least average or even just a deep midi, something that there's some modicum of spacing in that front court, That has to happen. Yeah. 21% last year from three.

Disgusting. It's non-factor. Yeah, exactly. And because of that, they're probably going to have to eventually trade Jared Allen and kind of bend their roster, probably for the better. And until that happens,

or until Evan Mobley, like, develops his shot, they're probably going to be stuck in the exact same range as there are right now. Well, he can either, yeah, he can either get a shot and play the four or eventually bulk up and be able to play the five which that's just a matter of time

like it just takes time to develop that body for somebody with his frame so I would lean towards the shot if I was him let's see it Evan all right Donovan what's your next one all right

listen Jalen Green is winning most improved player this year wow he's taking that that jump I think that Jalen Green is really good and I think that a lot of the players on the Rockets have been been done dirty by the way that they've ran that organization over the last couple of years.

And the fact that Udoca is going to come in here, they brought in adults and they brought in somebody who can actually coach and they're going to have structure to everything that they do, you're going to see Jalen Green in his best form, which is go get buckets, right? You don't have to run the entire offense. Every action doesn't have to go through you. You're also not going to have the opportunity to just go on the wing and dribble like we're playing. 21 at LA Fitness. Fred Van Vleet is going to run point.

We're going to have that. You're going to have other options to space the floor to give your offensive versatility. I just need you to go out there and be, you know, bucket getter, highlight maker. And I think that he can do that. And listen, he's going to average over 20 points this year. He's going to be as efficient as he's ever been in his career. And this is going to be the best we've ever seen Jalen Green.

Wow. I like that. What's the betting odds? Is he one of the top guys for it? He's he's plus 5,000. He's 50 to 1. He's the same. He has the same mods as Devin Vassell.

Okay. So that means he's like very far out on the list? Yeah. There's several guys ahead of it. Okay. Plus 5,000. Damn. I,

Hmm. What do you think, Mo? I was going to say, just real quick thoughts on that. I like it because I feel like dealing greed now is in the territory to where he is, almost becoming a forgettable NBA player because NBA moves just so fast and there's always something new inch I need to look at. It was the Zions of the world and then there was the Jaws of the world and then there's the Lamellos and now it's like Wembe, Anthony Edwards and shit like that

and at some point in time like Jalen Green is over here having fake beef with Cade Cunningham over it should be the number one overall pick to playing just L.A. Fitness pure L.A. Fitness basketball because of him and also the situation that he was in head coach is not that good and all that but if he doesn't make this leap like you're calling donovan then i feel like he will be a movable piece in the future oh yeah yeah yeah it's a listen it's definitely a make a break year but i think he's going to make it like i just think that having the best situation that he's been the best situation that he's had since he's come into the league is going to help a lot and um so yeah i'm expecting a lot of really good things from from jalen green i love it him and a man are the future

yeah having fredman vlead over there just to settle everything down and shit like that we'll definitely do so much for jailing greens also in the role like like as he said amen is crazy he's going to be so good yeah yeah shit if i was you and i had the team my hot take would have been a men is going to be a top 10 NBA player one day i'm fully on the high train that a man is going to be a superstar i think he's going to be a rare breed of athleticism and passing ability and defensive ability I think he's like I said before Rajan Rondo with the Super Soldier Serum

I think he's going to be one of the best players in the NBA eventually Oh that's crazy That's disgusting Yeah that's great He's incredible You think he could be What Prime John Wall was never

Was never able to be I think his ceiling is much higher than John Wall I think that's the fight Yeah I think he'll be as good as John Wall for sure I think a man is going to be fantastic I need to see his doggy before I can jump on that train I need to see Yeah and obviously to reach Prime John Wall

would be a very good outcome for him. It's not guaranteed I'm being hyperbolic but I think the ceiling is much higher than that. Wow, man. Just because John Wall's game was with speed and athleticism

a man immediately a better athlete than John Wall ever was I think people are going to find out that his ability, his speed isn't just he's fast it's the short burst he's able to do from any movement style

coming off of screens, pick and rolls, obviously transition. The way he goes, the acceleration is the big thing. He goes from zero to 100 in the tightest spaces. It's like John

Morant like with his leaping ability where one minute he's running the next moment he's at the fucking rim that's how a minute is with his I can agree with that slow down just a little bit because you're making John Wall sound like a fucking slouch but I do think I yeah yeah you're giving it a little bit I agree with you but like let's let's relax just a little bit yeah it's not the service to him I just think of men if everything goes right for him with that frame he'll he'll be a better player but obviously there's a world where it doesn't go right and John Wall's better Wow, man. Is it my turn?

Yeah. I believe it's your turn. All right, next one, not a hot take, but for the Nuggets, I think Yokish would just third MVP this year, which puts him to the rarefied air. Not a hot take because Yolkich can win an MVP like any year. It's not surprising. The guy who was finished second last year and first years, two years before that, it was not incredibly unlikely. He'll be near the top of the voting regardless. But I think it's hard for players these days to get a third MVP because of voter fatigue and everything.

We saw him get robbed. it last year. But I don't get the sense that he's going to be the top of player to take his foot off the gas. Like, the reason a lot of guys don't get that their MVP is because they stop going for it. Because if you're the type of guy that has two, your team's going to be in championship contention every year. You're going to be trying to make finals runs. So you're probably not concerned with going out and playing 82 games full throttle. You probably want to save some of yourself for the playoffs. I don't really have that issue with Yokic. I don't think that's ever going to hold him back. I think he's going to just do what he does. And

It's not very strenu as for him to play his game. So I think he's always going to be in those conversations because his floor is ridiculously high. Yeah. Yeah, man. Good take. Yeah. It's a solid take. I mean, like, what am I going to say?

Like, no, Yok is going to be like a top five MVP vote. Like, he's going to be there. But I'm just saying he's going to win. Like for sure. Even then. I think the media is on his side now. He's proven to be one of the greatest centers of all time now. and when it comes to him

just adding more jewelry and tacking on as shit I think it's pretty much almost written that he would be If it was very hard to make a good take for the Nuggets Yeah It was very difficult to find a take

for this team Everybody loves them So there's no way you can have hyperbolic And I'm not going to predict anything negative So like there wasn't much places to go Listen I got a take for you If you don't have one for the Nuggets I got one for the Phoenix Suns

Devin Booker will score 90 points this season What the fuck? Now look, I cannot have that many hot takes for the Phoenix Suns. I'm not going to sit in a game. Yes, in a game. I'm saying it. Now I'm standing on this.

NBA? Maybe overtime. Maybe overtime. Maybe overtime in this thing. Maybe over time. But over the last few years, we've seen, of course, Devin Booker scored what, 71 or 71 or 70 points, just went 2016 or 17, I believe. And last year we went to the Amy Lord's score 71 and Donovan Mitchell scored 71, too.

never seen two players go off in the same exact season. And I think, I think Devin Booker, he has the space for it, obviously the offensive talent and all that other stuff. And if we were to see anyone go off for 90, he's on the short list of players who have that ability to go ahead and do that. It's a hot take, man.

All right. Someone got it. Someone got to bring out the points, bro. Someone got to bring it up. And if I will do it, trust me, I will deliver.

great you got it great take I don't even know what does he even say about that I hope so that'll be cool alright we're going to go to the east we're going to go to the Washington Wizards specifically with Jordan Poole so I think that Jordan Poole has like a really good chance and this is a hot day

I think that Jordan Poo has a really good chance to win the skills competition at All-Star weekend Now we are in the deep end folks We're talking about scoring 90 And winning all-star skills competitions This is why we do it This is why we play the game Listen

I think that if Jordan pool really put his mind to me He could sign up for the skills competition And he can Weave and throw the best balance passes That we've ever seen He can put himself on the map God. I think that the Wizards would be very happy and that would be the highlight of their season

because this team is going to be in hell for a six months straight. You have Jordan Pool and Kyle Kuzma and Tice Jones as your big three. Listen, shout out to y'all. Those three, you guys are solid players. The rest of the team, you guys are going to be going back and forth from the Wizards to the G League affiliate. This team is not going to be very well. And I think that Jordan Pool winning the skills competition is going to be like, that's their only hope for like, yay, we did something.

year. So that's my hot take here. I pray to God, he signs up so we can pull this clip out in seven months. This is going to be hilarious. That is hilarious. That's great, man. Let's just move on. All right, Isaac. Please save me. My next team, my hot take for the Philadelphia 76ers is that by the start of next season, Joel and Bede will not be on the team. We know that. We know that. Yep. We know that. He is out of there. The James Harder situation is not going to go well. the best they can hope for is to get a decent return to role players and get to the point where they can rely on Tigers Maxi to make a leap and they can still be a competent top three or four season in the east because of the strength of Joelle and Bid having another MVP

caliber season. That's very possible. But if that were to happen, no matter how good of a season they have, they're not going to win the finals with a lack of a supporting star next to Joel and Bede. And if that's the case and they can't make that run for the clear reason that they don't have a second guy and there's a clear reason to believe there's no path to getting that second guy, I don't see why Joelle and Bede wouldn't request a trade. He doesn't strike him as the rider die guy that's going to stick around for a quasi rebuild to they can find him somebody else and whatever mechanism they have, he's going to be out of there. Yeah, I agree. He's been very open about how much he wants to win a championship. And he's like, listen, if it's not

here in Philly, then I'm going to have to go somewhere else and do it. But like, I want to win a championship. So that's very much on his mind. And yeah, there's only so many second round exit somebody can can endure. Exactly. I was just going to say that, bro. The clock is fucking ticking on this prime. If I'm the Philadelphia's same musicians, you would, I would want him to go ahead and request his trade because at this point, how much more embarrassing, embarrassment can an organization endure year after year after year after year, bro?

You know what I'm saying? So trade Joe and Bede, while he's at the peak of his powers, whatever his value might look like when he's 30, 31 years old, you have to expect it's going to be stupid high. He's going to be like still one of the two best centers in the entire NBA. You can get a pretty good package and return from him and you can turn this next chapter and start to build around I don't want to say around Tyrese max because I don't think he's a franchise player But he's a nice piece to have you know what I'm saying so I like this take Yeah, I don't think they're gonna want to because

Like it's they're gonna be entering a rebuild from stage one with not a lot of you know a young core existing to build around Like the Blazers did it they already kind of had a the beginning of a young core The seven-sixters are gonna enter a rebuild rebuild if they have to trade Joel like it is going to be bleak for many years and this is the type of shit you got to deal with these days they know better than anybody but I don't think they're going to be able to avoid it unless a miracle happens well this man don't believe in Jaden Springer are you kidding me

I hope the mic picked up that goofy ass sneeze that Donovan just did I was trying to comfort it to put it into my sweater I think it did I was trying to be quiet I was trying to be respectful Right? Mo, what should take? What should take? I'm trying to respect your time.

I appreciate that. All right. So my next take, not that hot, I believe. Well, no, actually, because of you guys' reaction, last podcast, it might be hot. For the Detroit Pistons, Cade Cunningham will be an all star this year. A lot has to fucking happen in order for Cade to go ahead and reach those seats. Of course, he has to be better. But the Detroit Pistons have to be like pushing playing, bro, in order for this to happen.

And also on top of that, Cade got to be like a 24 point per game score or something, 23 point per game score or something of that nature because the guard depth in the Eastern conference is disgusting. Damien Lur just got thrown into that conference. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard, man. Yeah.

I don't see it. Like you said, you would be surprised if we did. Correct. Not happening. And it's not, like last episode, we talked about Cade. and I said last year he wasn't particularly good before he got hurt for his standards obviously being the number one pick he's a good player he's Kate Cunningham

I'm confident that he'll be of like all-star caliber this year if you told me he averages 22 and 8 I can see that it's just the team's gonna suck ass and there's no world I think where the second worst team of the east gets an all-star bid when we have people like Palo maybe Franz Wagner maybe another player on the Hawks if they're good this year maybe Dejohn take him to go actual push

if they're going to be actually a good team like there's so many other people that are going to be ahead of the garbage bin teams at the bottom of the east. Yeah. Regardless of the fact, though. Regardless of the fact, though, I think Kay's going to have a fantastic season.

I agree. And it's going to bounce back here for him. Bounce back year frame. Yeah. He'll make all-star. He'll be an all-star caliber player. I think that's a good, good take. For sure.

All right. Cool. My next take, the Dallas Mavericks are going to be 500 at best. That is their ceiling. Again, you're better against them again? Their ceiling is 41 and 41. Their ceiling is 41?

That's the hot take. That's the hot take for the Maver's, is that their ceiling is 41 and 41 and that they will be under 500 again. If everything breaks right, they're touched by God himself, the world is on their side. They win 41 game. Listen, listen, maybe they can get to 42 and 40. Who knows? But I'm looking at this, I'm looking at this roster. And once again,

Dwight Powell is their starting center, right? Once again. Derek lively, probably. Yeah, it's Derek livery. That's train wreck. So we'll see. Train wreck. It's either a rookie or Derek or Dwight Powell.

So that depth and that question is still there. I think Luca and Karese fit is awesome and they're going to be great. They're going to be great offensively. But like their big offseason win was Grant Williams. And like, listen, I think that's like, very helpful for them. I think that he's going to be a positive player for them, but it's still Grant Williams, just a solid role player, nothing crazy. And I don't know where the defense on this team is going to, is going to come from your back court of Luca and Kyrie is also not

an outstanding defensive unit. I don't see the pieces for them to be, to be great. If I had to bet on a team missing the playing. I think they might miss the playing again. It's not a bad take. There's a lot of teams out there so I can... Exactly. Somebody has to be mid. Somebody has to be mid. And there's only one team out there that we've seen be mid consistently

for the entire 11 games they've been together. So it's not all this. It's there. Also, Mavs fans hate Jason Kidd as a coach. Like, let's see how good of a coach Jason Kee can be. I don't... I can add that for you. already. Not good.

Not good. Never has been. Exactly. So I think what we're going to get this year is just another year of like, hey, can Lucas score 35 and 12 every single night and can, and have a good attitude while doing it so that vibes are not terrible. I think that that's a lot to ask. So yeah, they're mid. Yeah. I want to, listen, we'll see what happens when it shakes out when we do our episode probably next week, ranking each team, essentially giving our. seeds. I want to say I'm going to put the maps higher but again

a lot of good teams I don't know like can I rank them above the clippers for everything we know wrong with the clippers assuming they have decent health can I rank the mouths above them? I don't know it's hard to go against Hawaii who went ahead and played five teams at least that are instantly better

than clippers let's not leak it yeah let's not leak our next video bro but it is very hard to go against Donovan's argument considering You know, they got a rookie center by the name Derek Lively, who wasn't fantastic when you play for Kentucky or Duke, I believe, one of those two.

Two, you want to him to do. Yeah, who wasn't like OD impressive, but I love his potential. You know what I'm saying? And relying on Maxie Kleber. Like, I've never seen an organization rely on such a, he's a good role player, but I've never seen an organization rely on someone as much as they rely on Maxi Kleber. So it's going to be a tough scene for them.

It's going to be a tough scene for them. and man I'm gonna pray for you they need their two star players to be capital S stars and mesh 100% and like carry them hard and be available consistently

which is always a question with Carrie Irving even outside of the personal reasons he gets hurt a lot so like yeah I don't know it's gonna be tough yeah Jason Kidd also needs to open

his fucking eyes and see the talent that they haven't shot into the sun needs to get fired oh god he's the Bruin his crew needs to be over

He needs to be no longer a head coach. He's never been a good head coach in any stop he's been in. He was terrible with Milwaukee, wasted Yannis for a few years, his development. And for some reason, him being an assistant coach with the Lakers when they won a championship, just trick the world into giving him another chance. I don't understand it. Basically, that must be a really good guy. That's my take for the maps.

They are not going to be a prosperous team this year. Nice. Yeah, I like that. It's just over. my turn oh it's your turn there you go to the Indiana Pacers okay not that hot of a take not one we needed to be discussing well I guess it is but I think the Indiana Pacers will be a top five season in the east this year nice I like it before Tyres maxi got I mean before Tyrese Hallibur and got hurt they were the 60th they were cruising

they were good as hell Tyrese maxi was obviously an all-star path made it made the all-star team if we did he that makes that up what's up Did Tyrese Hallibur made the All-Star team this last year? I think so. I think he was just hurt. Yeah, okay. Anyways, beginning of last year, Tyrese Hallibn proved that he's clearly an all-star caliber player. One of the best passers in the league, highly efficient score, can be the engine of your offense.

And then Miles Turner was completely unlocked by that. Wasn't an All-Star, but among the players that weren't All-Star caliber, we can call them like sub-all-stars, as Ben Taylor always says. He was clearly in that tier, fully unlocked as a three-point shooter and an attacker at the rim with that pass. thing that Halliburton brought, just as good of a rim defending season he's ever had. You have Ben Matherin who's, listen, you ask him, Mo, he's going to be Donovan Mitchell one day, but he's going to be a very good player, you still got buddy healed, you have, suddenly you have really good front court depth with Jaris Walker there, O.B. Toppin, we all think is going to be a most improved candidate.

Aaron Neesmith still providing spacing. Andrew Nimhar, a really good backup point guard. They just have every piece you would want to put into specific roles that you need to be an effective team. They can fill all those archetypes. I love this take I'm so happy you said it If I if I had the Pacers

I would have said the exact same take I I am extremely high on Indiana for everything that that you said Everything the same everything the same and we're the most pro Pacers podcast out yeah absolutely and something that you get you didn't discuss for obvious reasons too Buddy Healed is there and he requested a trade so they might get something valuable out of him whether it be a pick Or an extra productive player maybe a four because they're unsure of the rookie that they just drafted and also Obitopin who's a question mark not like stamp for MIP or anything like that so they're a they're a great team got to find a wing defender and that could be the trade to get one exactly they're in a fucking great spot but moving

on to the next team in the eastern conference i have the chicago bulls this season there is no more mid that an organization that and that this organization will be able to take and Zach Levine will request a trade. Oh, we, nobody talks about that. Everyone always says they're going to blow it up and have to get rid of the guys by choice. Nobody talks about what happens of Zach Levine request a trade.

Nobody puts him in those conversations. I like it. Yeah, exactly. When you think about Zach Levine, he's an all-star talent, don't believe he's ever, he's made an all-star once or he never made an awesome.

Yeah, he made one. I think 2019, I want to say? I really don't remember. Or 20, one of those years. Yeah, so forgettable. But Zach Levine is a great talent and he is one of the more underrated players in the NBA has an absolute strap on.

Of course, he's one of the best scores in the NBA or one of the better scores in the NBA. Let me stop myself right there. But, you know, for someone of his caliber, there's only so much mid and losing and just wasting of your career that you can do. And this might be the season where he's like, you know what?

I kind of want to win more. And I see this team going absolutely nowhere with no plans. Let me go ahead and put my two weeks notice in. that's good should have fire up indeed I'm with it I like it that's interesting

I hope it happens for drama reasons because if they were finally forced to rebuild because somebody asked out that's like the perfect scenario because we all know they're not going to do it

by their own volition they love this team they love being mid it's their bread and butter it's what they do I'm with a good job yeah we need listen please free

the entire NBA world from shackles of Bulls mid, please. Keep the mid off the streets. Please. Yeah. All right. My next one, we're going to jump to my next one.

I think that one of C.J. McCollum, Brandon Ingram, or Zion Ingram, or Zion Williamson gets traded this year. Wow. Explain. I don't hear this. Last year, even whenever the pelicans were rolling, we talked about kind of how they had a lot of cooks in the kitchen. And I think that.

I think that if Zion stays healthy, it is very clear. This is Zion's team. They're going to build around him. And they can get players that fit better around him, maybe on cheaper deals, maybe more players that fit on their timeline. Maybe, you know, Brandon Ingram isn't everything that New Orleans wants out of, out of a player. Like, he's not that much of a franchise cornerstone type of guy.

Or let's say that Zion gets hurt again. And New Orleans is like, let's it. Like, I'm just done with this. Somebody's going to get moved. They're going to shake it up. I think that they have an opportunity to really put their franchise in a certain direction and a big trade out of one of those three would help put them in the right direction to go ahead and do that.

Yeah, I just want to see them have a point guard in this team. Just like somebody that can pass over average. There's so many wings now with Trey Murphy and Herb Jones proven to be above average role players and should eventually get like big. minutes and Brandon Ingram doesn't need to be traded he's a great player

but I don't think CJ has a ton of value you're not gonna go out there and get a blue shit piece for him so I don't know who the point guard is out there

that ends up becoming available if there even is one but I could see them you know sacrificing Ingram at the altar for that bring demon home

get Chris Paul even entertain trading away either of those three they have to first and foremost make sure that they get

the as close to best fit of a center next as Zion as possible because there is even times during the preseason game against Orlando Magic last night.

Jonas Valenstunis, although he's like he's expanded his game, he's so much more comfortable close to the rim and that's just who he is, you know, and there was times where he would just come to the room and he would just clog up the fucking papers on and Zion would awkwardly get blocked. You know what I'm saying? And that's not something that you see

too often. And so if they go ahead and make a trade away Jonas Valenthunis and something still doesn't work, then yeah, you got to pack something up And retooling has to happen And that might be Brandon Ingram soon because he's not the issue, but he's the more valuable piece

that is replaceable and movable. The tough part is I think they should trade for somebody like Kelly Olinick to play next to Zion. Perfect offensive fit. It would be crazy. But Zion's not a good defender right now. He's so fucking just blocky when he moves. Like he just does not

have fluidity at all and just gets blown by a lot for somebody who should have the lateral quickness and athleticism with his frame. So that's going to be the case. You need somebody that can defend the rim there. And it's an incredibly tough ask to find somebody who can space the floor and, you know, defend the rim. Yeah. Brooke Lopez, Miles Turner, list ends there. It's extremely difficult. Yeah, exactly. And if there is someone who is available, they're not going to give 110% give you exactly what you want. But with the position that they're in right now, you can't be too picky. And,

they might try to, they might get hassled and someone might try to strong on them because all the assets they have. So yeah, Kelly Olinnick is going to be a Pelican, call it in. That would be so hard. Kelly Lillings is a great passer.

He can handle the ball and all that. Of course, he's a stretch five. I'm a fan of his game. Me too, man. My last team I have, because I gave an extra one to Donovan because I don't want to do it. So he has 11. I have nine.

My last team is the Minnesota Timberwolves. For them, I have Jayne McDaniels is going to be their third best player by the end of the year. Woo! I don't know. Who is going to pass up?

You tell me, but he's going to be better than one of their bigs. Wow. So it's... I don't know who. Listen, that duo can go a lot of ways.

I don't know who's going to prevail in that power struggle of who's the center to build around. But by the end of the year, Jay McDaniels is going to prove to be not just one of the best role players in the league, which I think we can put him

those conversations now. kind of the conversation that mckell bridges graduated from i think jane mcdaniels was firmly already in that but i think he can make the type of leap to be is this guy on all-star path soon listen i like i like i had jane McDaniels as my breakout player for the timbles last week so i think i think out of those two out of the two bigs and i'm honestly like not it's not like for the bit i'm trying to hate right now but i do think that like cat would be the one to that he that he would surpass just because I think that when you talk about like the fit for the Tim Wolves, I think having Gobert next to Ant fits a little bit better than Cat next to Ant.

And so when you start talking about like team building, maybe even trading one of those out of the way, Cat would be the one to go. And the defense that McDaniels can provide compared to the defense that Cat does, it's, it's night and day. Yeah. So. Yeah. See, last year when the Timberwolves, when everyone realized the Timberwell was fucked up bad and this was, this had a zero percent chance of work. And I said that they're probably going to have to trade Carin Anthony Towns in order to make up for this massive F up.

But between the two, which player does Jada McDaniels have a better chance of being better than? I think it'll probably be Rudy Gobert because I think it's, I think Carithy Town is just a better individual player. But for what this team needs and how you can recover. cover from a such a major f-up. Like, they're probably going to have to. Maybe I ended up being right because they trade one of those guys. Maybe it's not even a factor of he's better than one of them. Maybe, Mo, you're right.

And they have to move one and ends up either being cat or Gobert. We'll see, maybe they know they're not going to get back what they gave up for Gobert. But maybe it has to be cat, bro. It has to be cat. You can't, as an organization, you can't bring Rudy and draw out all those picks and all that just to go ahead and ship them out and try this thing with Caron, these sounds when you know there's 100% chance there's 110% a future where you can envision Rudy Gobert being like the forefront of your defense and the forefront of your team

compared to someone like cat who has had like constant struggles and shit like that I don't know I wouldn't want to experience they didn't have ant man back then though listen they didn't have ant man before amman's a star now james don't might be a low level all star eventually or probably not it's probably lofty but he'll be like this joel tweet on here right on the screen right now says the best 3-80 player in the league, that's a different equation than when we saw a cat being built around before.

That is true, but I just don't like to take a lot of it. It sucks to get less than you gave up for a Gobert, but at a certain point it's on cost and you can't, you can't be held back by being scared to being made fun of for that. You've got to do what makes your team better next year and that might be getting ready to go bear for whatever you can.

While you can't, but at the same time, my argument for that is that I think Carrington Town is more valuable than Rudy Gober and that's like also like a part of the logic to where like you know if you're going to do something for your team too it goes more the way that is kind of debatable something has to change but listen maybe it'll click maybe like all these checklists that joel wrote out on the funeral now maybe that's the key and maybe they're going to win 50 games we'll see I hope so man please do not bring shame

upon my sweet Anthony Edwards all right to go ahead and finish out But no, I got one more. I got one more. The Malky Bucks, we don't have to really talk about this. Well, we can actually. I think that they will not have a hard time going to the Eastern Conference finals and also winning the NBA championship. I think they'll win pretty easily, you know.

Okay. I said it with my chest. I agree. I agree. They're going to win. I think it's going to be them versus the Nuggets in the finals probably or them versus the Lakers. Don't believe in the Sons. Believe in the Bucks more than the Celtics.

I agree. Good take. Yeah. I don't think it's going to be an insane fight simply because I need to see the next steps being taken from Tatum. I need to see top five Tatum before I, you know, be like, oh, yeah, they're going to struggle against the Milwaukee Bucks and all. They would say they might, but I, with this duo and how I can't really pinpoint weaknesses for this team other than obviously depth or whatever, I think they're going to breeze through. I think they're going to, yeah, I mean, championship team, whatever cool, but I mean, I'm not. I think they're going to breeze through.

Other than the second half of your lineup, there's really nothing wrong with it. No. Yeah. Other than half your players sucking, it's fine. Listen, it's a fair take. I think I disagree with the easy part. I do think that Boston is going to give them like a run for their money.

But I mean, oh, surprise, surprise. The team with Damon Yannis wins the championship. Like, it's not a, it's not a crazy take at all. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Can we raise the roof? Is it time? We have one more team left.

We have one. We have two. Yeah. Two. We have two teams left. My first one, the New York Knicks. My hot take is that the Knicks are going to end up with Joelle and B. They are going to be the one.

P.U. They, listen. They missed out on Donovan Mitchell a year ago, especially when Mitchell was saying, or, yeah, when everybody knew that Donovan Mitchell wanted to go to the Knicks. And the package was there, and they didn't go out and they didn't get him. now everybody fully expects for joel and b to be the next star to request the trade everybody's been saying that the nicks are monitoring the situation they are keeping

they're keeping an eye out they they are going to be on the short short short list of teams ready to go get get joel and bid they have they have picks they have some assets that they can that they can trade and also mbid fits the best with with uh we're with Jalen Brunson. He fits better than a Brunton, Donovan Mitchell backcourt than a Brunson, Zach Levine. I think,

I think Joelle and Bid is going to be a New York Knick eventually. I like it. Listen, if we all agree that Joel is going to be out the door soon, the NICs are a logical suitor. I'm with it. Yeah, I can go ahead and see them,

see Jeline Bid being the Carmelo Anthony for the New York Knicks and just having consistent, repeat second round failures. This is Nick's tradition. All right, you suck. All right. And after I get the Hawks love today,

after I get the Hawks love today, that's okay, that's okay. All right, we'll move on. All right, we'll move on. The Miami Heat. Okay. Now, this one was tough because I made this one a little bit more aggressive and you know what? I'm standing on business today.

I'm standing on business today. And this is a two-part hot take. The first part is that the heat are going to have a bottom 10 offensive in the league this year. And the second trash Is that they are going to miss the playoffs Oh Listen

I want to agree Because I'm always constantly Ready to predict the heat's downfall Never doing it again I will not bet against the voodoo magic Of Eric Spolstra and Jimmy Butler Until it happens So I'm just going to assume you're going to be wrong

For no reason other than I refuse to let them Surprise me again The Miami Heat last Last season last season let me make sure I have this exactly right they were in a 30 team league they had the 25th best offense

in the league that's tough is terrible now they let go of max truce Gabe vinton is not there 37 year old Kyle Lowry is going to be back in the starting lineup 35 year old Kevin Love is out there doing stuff for them out of

two years ago two years ago was the first time that Eric Spolster as great as he is, coach the heat to a 50-win season without LeBron James on his roster. Bam. They have not, I don't, listen, I don't think that the heat sniff the top four this year. I think that, listen, they were three minutes away from missing the playoffs last year, right? Jimmy Butler, yeah.

Jimmy Butler turned 34 years old two weeks ago, and now it's going to be him and Bamata Bio, who we've already accepted. He's not going to be that high-level secondary score that you, like, would really want him to be they are going to have a lot of problems um offensively you're going to be requiring a lot from um from hamay haquez from kowalari from all these guys from yovitch all these guys that you brought in and even though that like listen we think that the rafters are going to fall off we think that the bulls are eventually going to fall off teams like teams like the pacer's are going to be back up teams like let me wait let me see let me the Orlando magic fill in for you

right exactly thank you teams like the paces are up, I think that the Hornets are going to be up. The magic are going to be good, right? There's going to be so, the Hawks are also going to be better than the heat this year. There's so many teams that I trust more right now and I trust their infrastructure. I see now, that's not, that's not true. But I trust that, I trust them to have a better team this year than the heat. So they are missing the playoffs.

I cannot, I would love to agree with you. But sadly, like Isaac said, this man, Pat Riley, has voodoo on his side. He has deals with the devil. Eric Spraultz is going to go ahead and make. I think that right out. He's going to go, bro. I think he's going to remember that name, bro.

He's going to look, they going to have that man drink black magic juice. He's going to turn into whatever super suited version of Max Drew's you can envision. I don't know what it is, but I just cannot go against the Miami Heat and I've consistently looked like a fool whenever I try to write them out. But you do bring a very, very good argument to the table. And if they were to go ahead and fall off, this might be it. Listen, I think everything you said is facts. It was also facts last year and they made the fucking finals. Listen, listen, everything that they did last year,

I think that what Pat Riley did this year was way worse than what they did last year. Because last year, you're coming off of a game seven in the Eastern Conference Finals, right? You were shot away. And he said, you know what, we are going to run it back. And okay, that's fine. It was very clear all year long, even throughout the playoffs. need another piece and pat riley not making an aggressive push to go get dame was the most arrogant thing i've ever seen and he thought that he could just throw rings on the table not

even on the table he thought that he can telepath the five rings that he had over to portland and get dame lillard it was arrogant for him not to do it they don't have enough they didn't have enough last year to win the finals and again jimmy bowl is 34 and he misses games a lot he's hurt a lot. It's going to be very, very hard for them to win a lot of games this year. So I think this is the year that I'm out on Miami.

I'm with it. Last year was too. I hope to say last year was year I was out and we were almost right. Like you said, they almost lost the playing game but crazy shit happens and Domino effects go down and next thing you know fucking Jimmy's in the finals again and we have to act like he's better than everybody

else in the league. That's ridiculous. But again, I just refuse let them fool me so even if I don't think they're good I'm just going to pick them to make the finals I'll be the one I'll be I will be the deep three representative that does not believe in the Miami heat this year yeah okay

I respect it that's a good take that was a great take I think it's time for you to raise the roof rejoice crayon eaters you right there you right there you right there you right there it is time my brother

it is TikTok time let's go man I've been waiting for this shit. I've been tired as hell. That was great. I was up and close to the camera. That was good. Oh, man.

Let's do it, man. That was good. I got to add that. Creonitis for Joyce. That's going to be. I'm going to add that to the intro. As always, we're going to start taking time off with the draft. This time.

working to a draft where we build NBA lineups with only power forwards 1 through 5 year lineup got to be a power forward okay this is all time yeah it's gonna be great yeah all time so anybody in the league has ever played

the four is fair game they have to be actually a four so like no brawn no KD no Tadone none of these guys that might start the four today because we're in a small league but you know spiritually there are three straight true fours okay the draft order is me Mo Don

That's how we're going this time Let's do it So you guys ready? Yeah Let's hook Let's drive NBA lineups With only power forwards First pick

I need this guy for position Versatility Give me Janus at point guard Oh wow Damn I need the best ball handling big we've ever seen Wow bro I was literally prepared to say Janus

Damn Okay go ahead and give me currently The best power forward ever Tim Duncan still So I respect it. Yes! I love this. I needed this.

I needed this. He just broke the frequency vibrations in the world, bro. Give me Dirk, because I need some shooting. And give me Kevin Garnett. Okay. Oh, this is disgusting. Oh, I'm so happy. Okay.

Good thing. Dirk. Wait, wait, Nick, can you put Dirk at my two guard position, please? And you got KG at the four? Yeah. Okay. Damn. I love that shit for you, man.

I let that shit for you. All right. I guess go ahead. There's two ways I could go, but I'm just going to straight up prioritize whoever the better, whoever the best player is. Oh, yeah. And in this position, go ahead and give me Anthony Davis, bro. I need him at my two.

He played point guard in high school. Okay. I mean, he ain't dripper like that in a minute. Okay. So I lied. We're putting Yonis down to power forward. Give me Draymond Greenup point guard. That's good.

I'm monopolizing the good passes on the board. Okay. And then actually, you know what? I'm putting Yonnes at the five and Charles Barkley at the four. Charles Barkley at the four. Okay. Okay. I like that.

All right. Actually, Charles Barkley by three, actually. I'm putting Yons of the five and Charles Barkley at the three. This is a man rebuilding team shapeshifting. And as you speak right now. This is hell of strategy involved. This is hell of strategy involved. Okay.

So you got Dremont, Barclay and Janus. You have no shooters on your team right now, my boy. There's plenty available. All right. You all have no passes and there's no more left for you. You guys are fucked.

Listen, 80 average forces one day and is 80 average forces per game in his heyday. I'll be straight. Okay. So for the sake of, of spacing and also defense go ahead and give me jaron jackson junior at my three i also put him a

shooting guard damn let's do it okay okay okay actually nikeo can we move kevin garnett to my five can we do that because at my power forward i would like zion williamson oh okay at my three i would like dennis rodman Okay, that's an interesting combination. Dennis Rodman, at your three. It's not bad at all. Not bad at all. Okay, cool.

So, at my five, fuck you, Isaac, give me Chris Bosch. Fuck, I was in here, I knew it. I knew it. I got your game plan in my hands. Damn. Yeah, pick your shooters now. Okay. Am I two?

Give me Pistons, Blake Griffin. I forgot about Piff. Yep. I got another ball handler. Monopoly the passing again. Yeah. Yeah. And then at my four,

this is a swing pick. I could take this team in a few different directions. Hmm. You know what? Yannis has my defense figured out. I'm going to get prime Kevin Love here to space the floor. He can defend Chris Boschon's eye on. Wow. Okay. Okay.

That's solid. That's all it. So what I'm going to do is, let me move AD to my PG. Jay, Tripp, I need trip at my shitty guard. And then for my small Ford, hey, I'm a man of space. Give me the paste. Give me prime. Chris Tots, Porzingis, future Celtics legend. A year from now, okay. I'm going to be cooking. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. That's, that's cool. That's cool. This sucks because I know I know that the pick that I'm about to say is a good pick

and you guys are going to laugh and I'm a hated. But it's okay. Because listen, Isaac is right. He took all the good passes. He took all the ball handling. But this is the only name that's coming to mind right now. So at my point guard, give me Lamar Odom. Wow.

Give me Lamar Odom. Listen, you need a ball handler. I respect it. That's nice. I like it. You guys have you guys have straight. Big man, everybody's been in the same spots on the court. I'm the only team that is actually going to play logical basketball

with people that can stand in different spots. This man said logical basketball. You have one shooter on your team, dude. You have Dreemann. It was a great shooter in Detroit. Listen. Prime Dremont shot 38% from three for a year. Listen, Prime Dremont is not moving anybody, bro.

He has nothing on... Good luck on trying to score on AD, Tripp, Christops, Porzingis, and Boss. This is the best five here. Dremont's passing. looking to score he's a point guard look you're you're not scoring no one is scoring on me man the worst offense though what no you have no sense andy david is your point guard what the fuck are right running back 2018 ad highlights and you'll see exactly what i'm not a point guard

no scenario should that be a point guard oh my goodness anthony has never been able to pass not even a little bit oh my god Force this, but you're referencing? Great. He got four assists because he had an insane usage. He lucked his way into four and six. Look, man. Look, man.

All I'm going to say is good luck trying to get to the rim. Point blank, period. I'm having spacing. The rim's going to be wide open for yon. I'm having faith that AD's PG skills starts to creep in as he realizes, oh shit, I got to do this. Now, listen, we need a 2K simulation of this, of these teams. Please somebody make that. Nah.

No, Pistons Blake was a steel. He's a perfect shooting guard. He was a steel, absolutely. He was soft. If I could have got, if I could have got Jaron at the four instead of Kevin Love, it would have been over. So Kevin Love's defense is my one week point. Yeah, I know. I'm the greatest shooting big of all time.

I'm sure. Yeah, great. For the audio listeners, I have Draymond at Point Guard, Blake Griffin at Shooting Guard, Charles Barclay at Swall Ford, Kevin Love the Power Forward, and Yonis at Center. Nice. All right. At point guard, I got AD. My shooting guard, I got Jaron Jackson Jr., small ford, Prisengis, Power Ford, Tim Duncan. And at the center spot, I got Chris Bosch.

Okay. Okay. At my one, I have Lamar Odom, shooting guard is Dirk. Three is Dennis Rodman. My four is Zion Williamson, and my five is Kevin Garnett. Nice. You lost. You lost.

You know what I'm good. I'm just got to swap him. Really, Charles Barkley is my four and Kevin loves my three. I'm good. That's, my demons is fine. No, Charles Barkley is some world beater, but him and Janus? I'm good. Switching positions is not saving you, man.

Save me from who? Chris Stops? Go fuck yourself. Bro, does Tim Duncan not exist? Holy shit. Jared Jackson Jr., soft. Worst player on this whole list. Oh my God.

Hell no. He's easily the worst player in this whole list. It's not even a conversation. Oh, no, I guess Lamar was worse. Hey, yeah, exactly. We're going to act like Lamar's not the air. Oh, you shit. All right?

Listen, it's the best you can do a point guard. Listen, Lamar at point guard is better than Chris stops at the three. Okay. weird argument but Isaac you have his ball hands on Jared Jackson Jr.

and Anthony Davis that's repulsive Isaac yeah fat boy Kevin Love on your team bro I don't know I don't know who you're stopping Kevin Love

it's sitting in the corner and slash that bitch Kevin Love it's all he's got to do is face the floor he's not touching the ball unless it's swung to him on the corner oh yeah yeah non-factor

right man next thing we're going to do we're going to save the tier for a second and what we're going to do next is you know ESPN just put out their top 100 players rankings they haven't in the top 10 yet but they're 11 through to 100 they are how do you say utterly fucking ridiculous at times they got you they got you every year they do this with the list and every year we're always like listen it's ESPN's list it's stupid we can't pay attention and here we are making a video about it yeah they they got us I would love to give them no

attention because they're begging for it but content must be made and I want you guys to guess the rankings for these players of their name. I hope you haven't seen any of them yet. You've probably seen a couple of them. I haven't seen anything. Oh, let's go. Great.

So it's going to be simple. I'm going to name some players. You guys are going to guess what their rating was according to ESPN. Let's go. So guess where ESPN ranked these NBA players

in their top 100 list? First up, Damien Lillard. He did have a sturdy points per game last season or something like that. Something like that, yeah. He's not a top 10 player, though. I don't think that they're putting him in the top 10. I think that they are putting him top 15, though.

I'd say 15, Donovan. I like where you going. I'm going 13. 13. Okay. What about you, Mo? I'm going to say, for the sake of ESPN's sake, they're probably going to put him at 15. They don't know a little bit.

Realty, they split it right down the middle. He's number 14. Oh, yeah. So, see, we know ESPN. They're predictable. We know that. We know your game. We're familiar with their game.

All right, next up we got Anthony Edwards Damn, after the summer he had They might put him top 10 What do you think? He's top 20 I think that they're putting him Guaranteed Guaranteed

Do we think he's higher than day Would ESPN pull out That type of monstrosity 110% I believe so A hundred and 10% Would ESPN do that War crime Let's lock it in for me

They put that man at number 12 Would that be ridiculous I'm going I'm going 16 Well Most closer They put this man at 13 Oh my God

Oh my God 13 off of what Summer vibes Pictures of him not playing fair With the low cut Looking sexy Oh my God He said he's hot

he's cool he's number 13 better than game yo just because he had been playing fair his whole career yo just

he was hooping against Latvia and they were like oh no he's like that he's like that he's like that a fade

a fresh fade some big ass earrings and some cool jokes got him this high man and really him bro

it don't take much wow that's crazy as fuck ridiculous all right next up yes absurd jaw morant oh he dropped

he dropped ESPN they did Listen, they were not rocking with the gun stuff. He's probably going to be at like 19. 19 might be a little nice. I want to say they have them a little lower than that. They might go ahead and put him at 25 or 26 because they might view him as unstable.

That's true. That's true. That's true. You know, I'll join you. We'll go 24. I'll go 24. I'm going to say 26. ESPN said, this man is a threat to those around him.

He's 35 35 35 30 He said 35 motherfuckers are better than Chal Moran's

Oh my God Now he did have that incident Once Really twice But damn 35 is outrageous

Yeah This shit's not about basketball They just said He's a dumb ass And we're putting him down For a repeat

Offender They said we're putting him down For repeat Offender Dumb That's it Yeah God, bro.

In print. In parentheses, dumb. All right. Next up, Jamal Murray. Oh, they got to be on his, they got to be on his knob, bro. They put him at like 20?

No, I will say 20. He's higher than 20. He's higher than 20. You think they're doing tricks on it. Oh, my gosh. I thought 20 was crazy. I thought 20 was crazy. We're going 17 for Jamal Murray.

Ooh. Okay, Mo. I got 20. I think a championship goes a long way. The first correct answer, he is number 17. Oh. Yo, oh, my God, this is 17 is disgusting. John ran at 35 and Jamal Murray at 17.

That's a crime. I love it. Makes no sense, but I love it. Next up. Kyrie Irving. Oh, you know they don't like it. him you know they you know they don't like kairi if they have jai at 35 kairi has to be six lower no i won't say that i won't say that i'll say he has to be lower for sure yeah

he has to be lower for sure because i think josh probably a better player and kairi has had multiple offenses over the last three four years so he might be 50 to be honest let's go we'll go 50 50 is crazy Jesus Christ Yeah They put him at 34 One spot above jaw Oh okay

Okay so they just That's still bad but wow All the delinquents You guys are just Somewhere around there Somewhere over there This is where they lie That's standing on bullshit

You're in the 30 Like you're not an all star You're not top 24 But like You can be somewhere over there This is crazy Okay Yeah there's not 34 players

Better than Kyrie for being real 34 is outrageous Next up RJ Barrett Now this is so wild He is top 100 He's top 100 God damn

How Top 100 at what Basketball? 83 Oh man I'm going to say 95 I almost say

Arj Barrett at 71 Y'all are you all too hard on the boy 71 I don't know how to I don't know how I feel about that man 71 75 71's a big number I just I just need to know who is behind him and who I need to know who's around him to make 71 like seem fair yeah got to the context I think I can't remember yeah 71 I think that's a fair point for RJ okay last up Russell Westbrook this is hard because of how bad he was for the Lakers but he was also pretty good for the clippers yeah Do you think he's better than R.J. Donovan?

I hope so. I think they do 63? I was going to say 65. We'll split it down the middle, 64. Let's do it. At 30 that bitch and you're correct, he's 94. I'm speechless. This hate is ridiculous.

94. It's like they didn't watch what he did for the Clippers at all. Just stop the season right there when he got traded. This is getting out of hand. This is getting out of hand. It's getting ridiculous. The rest is definitely gone too far. 94 is outrageous.

You see what's happening out here. It's happening on a nightly basis. It's getting ridiculous. He's not just 94. He's 23 spots behind RJ Barrett. A meaningful jump. That is gross. RJ?

Oh, man. R.I.P. Russell Westridge credibility. It's ridiculous. All right, man. Let's end of that video. Next thing we're going to do, we're going to get to some city jerseys.

We've been waiting a little bit for some more to leak. As you guys know last year, city jerseys are bread and butter. This is the shit we've looked for. We're here for that. There's a predominant city jersey podcast on the planet. We're here to talk about them today. We are going to grade some of the ones that have leaked already.

So over the span of like three or four episodes, we're going to get to the point where we grade all of them. So let's be part one to that. We'll grade the first nine Okay Nice and simple Let's do it Let's grade these

2024 NBA city jerseys I hate all of them First off The Minnesota Timberwolves Beautiful I love it bro This little thing Slowly towards a tippity top

Of the jersey bro The aura on there You damn right This is aura I don't even know what the hell This company is But they did it They did that shit

Usually I hate grading it But this Dirty Sprite 2 style graphic, it works for me. I'm going to give it a A. This is the Starge is just because you're a future fan. This is okay. It's fine. Listen, you guys know how I feel about gradient. I'm actually sticking to my morals.

It's okay. I'll give it a B. Okay, fair enough. At least it's not a, at least you not hate it too hard. This is an A, bro. You're chirping. No, the, listen, the colors. Especially for the competition compared to what comes next.

This is the EZA. The colors on this one is beautiful. yeah the white the white text on it it pops so good with the minnesota it's beautiful bro i bet your mind we'll change you to see anthony edwards in that donovan what are you asserting what are you trying to say what i mean you know exactly what i mean next what we got the memphis grizzlies ew what is this this is a robot new language They put hieroglyphs on this bitch. Is that supposed to say MEM?

Someone said it's nine bacon strips. Yeah, someone thought this was hard as fuck coming out the factory, bro. This is indeed not. Holy shit. I actually kind of like it. I fuck with it. I think all bodies and look real cool. I like this like ancient Egypt style with the MEM.

See, I would like it. What does ancient Egypt have to do with Memphis? Yes, exactly. Come on, man. I would like if it actually meant something. It means a. Nothing. I think it's hard.

I'm going B minus. You want key glock building pyramids. I don't like this. This is a C. This is a C. D. Listen, it's real easy for a black jersey to win me over. This one does it.

Next one. We got the Miami Heat. Heat culture monstrosity. Trash. This is an F. what happens when you lean too far into the joke into too far into the culture this is now lame and corny this is an f i want pat riley sent a prison over this he didn't make it nothing do with him he has to take the fall this is ridiculous also why is heat so small and culture

so big exactly this is a practice squad ass jersey man this is a jersey that you find at goodwill or something this looks like a fake jersey don't look real anywhere i should sit on venice beach multiple time this is terrible if you take out if you take out heat this looks like a jersey that they would have given quavo an offset two years ago when they were dropping the album this is terrible on god it's almost like it's a joke like it's so bad somebody has to not be serious like a print gone too far oh no they were serious with this one jersey feels empty no hope just like their upcoming season trash and is gritty on the size is oh no I didn't even see that That's gross

Oh, that's trash I think we should be Z, something below F, I don't know H for hell Just put this in the depths H's hell H for hell is perfect Where's jersey ever man

Next up The Brooklyn Nets You just don't want to be serious Right? You don't want to be a credible NBA franchise Could you keep putting your players out And stuff that looks like this This is something that you see

at a children's museum on the blackboard in the blue schools am I looking at right now bro this is frustrating this is actually frustrating it's actually making me upset you put the wiggles in this

and they're ready to ball oh god with the funky ass with the fucking with the fucking with the fucking oh my god I can't even talk it's like my mind is scramble

with this shit bro what's up with the nets stay consistent what's with the up down up down I think the font the font looks cool if this was like a grungy poster for some like rock concert in Brooklyn but for an NBA jersey this is ridiculous

when you see people playing basketball in cartoons or an animation they're wearing this jersey this is what they have on regular show ass jersey yeah this is terrible oh my god bro i want to give this to my worst enemy holy shit man this is terrible i'll go d this is a i'm giving an f these all suck Oh, bounce house jerseys. Next one we got the Houston Rockets. These are hard. These are hard. But they kind of like the Sacramento King's jersey from maybe a couple years ago.

Yeah. These would be they're not even like the greatest in the world. They're just like a regular jersey that looks like a real team that takes himself seriously compared to all the bullshit we've seen. This is immediately elevated. Yeah. These colors are nice though. Listen, the way that you feel about black jerseys, I feel about white jerseys, I feel about white. jerseys they're just very clean but this is this cool yeah this is simple they need to do too

much the h town wasn't he did it's real smu vibes here i i fuck with it man is making assertions you get all the allegations next up the indiana pacer's league oh man this would be hard if i was going scuba diving this would be hard if i was going to feed dolphins but i'm playing basketball who the hell can to wear this shit this is like a fortnight ass jersey oh my goodness holy shit this is a straight out splatoon this is a Nintendo switch jersey every game that the Pacers wear this jersey I'm picking them to lose I just have to do it this is not a great there's not a good no we're making parleyes against these jersees we're getting rich quick this might

be in contention to knock the Mavericks off of their crown for worst NBA jersey of all time No, that was still bad. That was bad. That was bad. This is literally a Nerf jersey. This is horrible. A Nerf or nothing ass jersey? Are you kidding me?

For sure. Gradient Spackle? Who is coming up with this? Listen, it's Indiana. I don't know what you expect. I don't like this. And you wonder why I say I don't like Adam Silver. Because this stuff is allowed to be on NBA courts.

Come on. Just watch. He allowed this to happen. not this single handily made me switch size we need to abolish the fuck out of city jersey this did it for me i'm done with the shit tighten up at him yeah the fat is f gross f for sure yeah man that's all of them oh no we have more next one the chicago bulls once again very plain it gets a beat just because it doesn't embarrass the chicago bulls i agree at least it's normal but it's got to be C at best

this shit is too empty it's so hollow like there's nothing going on yeah exactly why couldn't they make it bigger it's like so misplaced it's like it's a regular size jersey but the eight is like for the jersey they make for little

dogs like it's a chihuahua size jersey it is very empty it looks like they forgot to finish designing it this is a half ass jersey exactly I got to put this at sea for that last minute school project Honestly, we'll put C Alright, we'll put C Alright, next one

The Dallas Mavericks This is actually not trash It's not great But again, not trash Not trash, not trash Yeah We've certainly seen worse But this does not move me

Again, we're grading on a curve here Because the stuff that we've seen Has been actually like grotesque But this jersey is just fine The little squiggly S at the end of the letters Not bad, not bad Hang on me wearing that jersey I kind of feel like a pimp

If I'm on the basketball Or with that on man I'm actually Cool Yeah bro I feel This looks like Something one of the rival gangs

And Saints Row would wear The blue gang I feel smooth as hell With this jersey on man I'm feeling like Kyrie for sure A Pipp is crazy I'll give it C I'm gonna give us a B

I'll say C All these city jerseys are mid they're mid or worse best yeah all right next one the last one the golden state warriors yeah somebody was high making this

somebody was high I don't want to say it's hard why is it squeakly why yeah why is it squeakly why are we whoa while we're making a jersey like this is ridiculous just like I'm quirky

like come on now asshole I'm different can we be through for two seconds now this is terrible really i kind of want to say this shit is hard it probably looks better on on an actual player

it would be hard it's just like last year's with the rose it's 90% hard then there's that one bullshit feature that just ruins it like if it just normally said san francisco it would be cool can we just take a year off from city jerseys so that everybody can just think of like good ideas again and not just throw stuff together this is awful this is not we need to load manage designers and give them time to ruku break please now you're thinking D F I want to

I want to say B because I know this will actually look hard on Steph Curry on Clay Thompson and all them boys You just like You're letting the Warriors

gaslight you every year into ignoring their bullshit And it's working How many times can they give us A black and yellow jersey

That has the stupidest shit You've ever seen on it Every time And I will continuously say They're hard I'm a sucker I'm gullible Oh

I can tell Evan next thing we're going to do we're going to do our tier list for the episode lit this time we're going to put young players into a tier list just in general so let's keep it simple let's put these young

NBA players into a tier list first up Anthony Edwards S tier S tier young player yeah considering the pool of young players we have he might belong in the S tier because of his potential

yeah he's not Luca but after that you could argue you the best under 25 player in the league. Yeah, absolutely, bro. With, yo, his playoff run last year, or not run because he ain't really run to anywhere other than the first round. But he was impressive. Next up.

Tyrese Maxie. I kind of think he gets overhyped sometimes. I'll say a B. Like, he hasn't... That's a guy. Cunning him to kill. Like, he hasn't taken... Yeah, I'll say a B.

He hasn't taken that All-Star Leap yet. He hasn't necessarily had the opportunity to. but he's still very like above average a very serviceable player and I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked if he did take that leap this year I don't really seem ever being like a true star to be an SRA but I think he's like the quintessential be yeah if his playmaking ever took a turn or he became like one of the best shooters in NBA or one of the best drivers in NBA or something he has to have he has to have that X factor that just makes him different like yeah for Luca, Zion, Anthony Edwards, and he doesn't have any of that.

So he needs to develop one of the lead to be. He has to be B. He's a fine role player, though, for sure. Okay. Next up, Shea Gildes Alexander. S. Easy S. T.E.S. S tier.

Yeah. The only player in this list, that's probably better than Anthony Edwards right now. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Next up, Scotty Barnes. D tier? Yeah, I don't put him D to me on.

I would say D tier. If we're looking at the rest of this list, If we're looking at the rest of this list It kind of is D tier And that rookie of the year Like we said It's looking kind of Tyreek Evansish It's kind of fraudulent

Tyreek Evans is crazy Damn And next up Victor Wimbanyama S tier That's crazy No games play We're not talking we're not talking about it

You know it whatever Whatever Donovan I'll just So one free season game I'm sold Guys he stole the ball from the three point line and then dump that bitch on the other end come on y'all talk about that but I'm obsessed

with the jelly that he did the other day bro against chat that was crazier seven in the league and immediately be I'm not even say a crazy thing listen seven five with jelly is insane ridiculous by year two we're going to talk about him is pushing top ten unheard of bro

I said it for a sound bite but All right, next up, Zion Williamson He has to be S No, no, you can't put Injury prone Yeah He's S-tier talent, but everything put together

He only deserves to be an A for now He doesn't play He doesn't play games, he'll put him in S Oh, that'll never happen We haven't seen 50 straight an NBA game yet, bro Y'all are crazy So be it.

Next one. Jalen Green. I would say B tier. I will say C. I'm projected with my B tier, but if we want to go see, that's okay. That's fine. Yeah. I mean, of course you're projecting because you put fucking Victor Winbanyama at S.

So that's not projecting. That's talking about right now. That's talking about right now. That's talking about the president. I don't think Jalen Green wasn't better in the Scotty Barnes last year. So I think he was. I was going to say he's a more. he was a more productive NBA player

but how do you define productive when it comes to the East Scottie Barnes we located Scottie Barnes dirty putting him D Oh too bad he's staying in there Let's put Jayne Green and see in Dubon Okay next one Trey Young Trey should be S

If Wembe's going to be there He should be S but he has a lot to recover over the past Yeah He'll prove himself back to S this year but after last year was a little up and down he can go A

next up Cade Cunningham I think he's a solid If I'm being real he might be a C but projecting he might be a B Yeah I think for this coming season he'll be at least B

He can push A if he makes that leap We all think he can make But for now until he does it He's got B B I respect it There's no C I mean I anticipate he'll be

I mean listen The injuries have been there? Well, just been one injury he missed a lot of time. It's not

like he's some he's not injuries or not I'd bro I'd rather have Kate cutting him on my sidelines

than what I witnessed Jalen Green do over the past two seasons yeah me too but you got him a coach

though last one Chet Holmgren he's kind of hard to put after how we set this up he can't be yeah you might have to put

him lower he can't be lower than B he's kind of He's really in like that B plus Yeah, so is Wimb and Yama though I'll fuck this up Wemba Yama is going to be a basketball god

It's different he's different Oh my God I think Chet's got to be C until He's just a rookie I think he'll quickly get his way into B But I think C to start I kind of want to put him at B right now Let's fuck if we're projecting forward

Do you see him being as good as T Irish Maxie next year Yeah for sure oh easily Be it is B it is There we go There's our list. Listen, it's a lot of good young players in the league. It was great.

Sorry, Scotty Barnes. Jalen Green was so not better than him last year. Fuck it. I know where I stand. Fuck the rafters. He's the only one we don't project forward. Facts. We just like, you suck.

Next thing we're going to do, we're going to do another 2K related video. This time is going to be based around me naming a player. and you guys guessing what their rating is. I have recently jumped onto the 2K wave. I'm now in the community. Hold on. Let's see if I can get this right. Yeah, so real simple,

we're not going to be like comparing to another player guessing lineups or anything. Just one player, what do you think the rating is? So let me get this hook out of the way. I'm going to name an NBA player. You tell me what you think their 2K-24 rating is. Anthony Davis.

Okay, he's definitely 90 plus. He's definitely 90. plus got to be above 90 I'd hope exactly I want to say he's exactly in 90 to be honest I think that's fair the shooting went to hell yeah 92 sir

I would say 91 but I'm gonna stay put 90 I'm gonna I would if he was a 90 I would fucking protest a 2K offices Donovan's closer he's the 93 look at 2K I love it man y'all respect defense wow got to is Anthony Davis he's a

Lakers boost, too. That is true. I forget. That's what the actual point came in. Next up, Victor Wimanjama. Okay. He might be an 85, bro. I'll go.

Just how his bill doesn't make any sense, bro. He's legit a demigod. All those demigod videos y'all would see on YouTube back in 2014, 2015, this is him, quite literally. He might be 85. I'm going to try to beat you by one. I'm going with the 84. Oh Donovan

Once again victorious He's exactly an 84 I'm on your head Mo Okay I can't be mad at it I can't be mad at it Next one Trey Young Alright

Has to be a 90 If he's not a 90 They're disrespecting like heavy Like crazy I already know they're disrespecting like crazy Bro the entire NBA is So what makes you think that 2K devs wouldn't disrespect him even further

He might be an 87 or 80s No, I'm putting seven's crazy No, I'm putting Tray Young at a 91 Give me an 88 This time Mo is closer, he's in 89 I wish I wasn't closer Damn, 2K

No, the disrespect He's got to prove it this year Yeah, his three points They're just there The defense's ass It's only expected Yeah All right next up

Shee Gilges-Alexander he might give that man a 94 just because how good he looks bro damn right you can said he's the one mo has been very he's been very heavy on like you know aura comments today he's in his bag I'm in my zone oh my god

my god but stop um I'll go 90 I want to say is he as good as Anthony Davis? She was cooking last year, bro. You know what?

Okay. Yeah, I'm going to do that. I'm going to go 92. I'm going to stay with the strategy. Okay. What about you, Don, Mo? 93. We're doing it.

You're locking it in. Oh, another victory for Mo. He's a 93 exactly. Wow. Wow, man. 93 for Shea is kind of crazy. But shot at him. He did ball out last year.

He's like that. He's like that. Had a hell of moments, defense is crazy. That's not easy to do. Yeah, especially on that team that had no spacing. Straight paint buckets too. Hercules effort. Yeah, you straight ran halfback dive every play.

Yeah, well. All right, next one. We have Jama Rants. Ooh, this is hard. I'm gonna say 90. I'm gonna say a night. You think he's three below, Shea? that's where the awareness comes in

no awareness oh man yeah I'm gonna go 90 oh man I want to say 91 I want to say 91 he is a 92 I'm on your head

then it holds his IQ against them I got this one yeah I was one more that's not on this graphics I'll just say it Kauai Leonard Kauai, I want to say 94 because he did play a healthy amount of games last year

for his standards, 52, I think. Oh, whoa. I have no idea how to rate Kauai Leonard. Exactly. I have no idea. You can't rank him in any discussion. I'll give him the same ranking that we give John. I'm going to go with a 92 for Kauai Leonard.

I'm going to go one above you. Give me 93 for Kauai. He is a 94. Wow. Still? The Kauai respect. I love it. I love it.

Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's great. We got one more before we get out of here. Mo, I think you have some NBA fights to show us. Yeah, man. I want you to grade these NBA fights. Great.

All right. Let's bring up number one. This was back in what, 2019 or 2021 when beef stew lost his damn mind. It's LeBron James for a seamless slap to the eye. No, he was running a muck. He was going crazy. I ain't never seen nobody this deranged before on a court.

He went beast, bro. He saw red. Literally, he has blood in his eye. Listen, by the same time, by the same time, I'm giving this fight a B because he was the only person trying to fight that day. He was just running around like her. Oh, wait, no, Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook was like these.

He was running up on the court. I forgot about that. Everybody's like, what the fuck is he doing? I got him if nobody else got it. Just from like, okay, I think just from the amount of memes that we were able to get from this fight, it has to be minimum B plus a minus territory. I'm gonna go B plus. I'll go B for entertainment factor as an actual fight. It wasn't one.

So he's like F, but for entertainment, shape B. He went into the locker room and tried to come back the other way. Exactly, bro. This was literally a 15 minute hassle, bro. He was, bro, he looked like one of the greatest fucking fullbacks. He could have been one of the greatest fullbacks in the NFL with how many people were trying to hold him back. A 15 minute a half was hilarious. He's like, a kid throwing a tantrum.

Just being a ducent. Oh, God, bro. And all the blood coming out of his eye tube makes this so much even more dramatic than it actually was. He was like that kid from the Thornberry show. I've got to go crazy. I have no idea what you're talking about. What's the Thorbury show? You never seen that.

That makes crazy noises He's like That's a great impression I'm going to have to watch after this show Yeah, what's next All right, we got Jewel and Bede versus Carl Anthony Towns Just a couple years ago, bro

These two were just squabbling for no reason Actually, this is one of the rare moments in Carl Anthony Town's this career where I was like oh no he's like that I have respected him so much in this in this fight because Joelle and B just thinks that he could try to bully people and Kat was like not today

I'm standing up with myself today had a minute no I mind you while Coranthney's talents I mind you while Carl Anthony's talents had that man in a headlock they're in this literally seconds later Ben Simmons had him in a headlock crazy

That was crazy Facts, bro I want to go back up Oh man Well listen Well if most Listen If we had two chokeholds

In one fight That might be a material Oh you're right For the sheer volume This is big purr Ain't nobody was expecting This out of him The defining moment

Of his career His greatest achievement yet exactly good job cat all right what's next oh we got Kobe versus

oh no no no yeah we got two bro we got Kobe versus childs

he got two pieced listen a punch was thrown that's rare two punches were thrown bro piecing up Kobe

to the neck and I go like Kobe kind of ate those no he didn't His block game is terrible, so he ate him because he had to. Chris Trowell's ready, though. That's true.

It has to be punches with throne. Yeah, he landed two pieces, automatic A. And he connected to it. This has to be an A. Yeah. Yeah, Kobe's jaw was a sore in the morning. That's rare for an NBA fight. Yeah, exactly.

Did Kobe get a lick off too? I don't think so. I think it was too late. That's tough. He tried. No, he tried. It's tough. Chris said, phew.

then we learned that from i just shit oh yeah i know isaac is a menace next up we got dr jay versus larry bird in this instance right here larry bird's teammates or dr jay's teammates held larry bird and dr jay was getting four licks off in his face

i need to see this video he was crazy when we talk about the old nbassi this is what we're talking about yeah this is what we're talking about yeah this is what we're They paid real defense back then No, they just beat the shit out of each other While everybody else got held back This is a good old-fashioned jumping This is an old-fashioned jumping

This is a rivalry at its highest level This is old-and-tiles violence When was the last time You saw two all-time greats Fight each other like this? Bro You can't name one I'm putting this at it

You can't even name an instance When his teammates were holding them back And helping him get the licks off, bro This was cool All out of hair. Everybody played a part. It was well choreographed. Easy A.

In sync violence. Easy A. Next up we got. Next up, we got Brazon Rondo versus Chris Paul. This was hard. So much shit was happening. In this clip, too, Brandi Inger was even squaring up with his skinny ass, bro. That's like a swift left jab.

You look like a boxer. Yeah, bro. Rondo is like that. You couldn't even wind back. Just, oh, who wasn't? Was Chris Paul the one that spit on Rondo? Yeah, Chris Paul did spit on him. Yeah, he, and listen, he deserved that. If you spit on somebody, listen, whatever happens to you next is, listen, I can't even say.

You deserve whatever is coming to you if you spit on somebody. Easy A tier. Easy A tier, bro, for sure. I like that. All right. What's next? Also, Nipsey Hustle was in the background, ready to jump in the fight himself. He was the great moment.

Just holding him. Bro. And it's so fun. Actually, go back to it, too. This fight wasn't even originally supposed to be between CP and Rondo. They just got into it after. Harder and Ingram were going at it. And Ingram just escalated to all this shit, bro.

This is a side. This is a side quest. Rondo saw an opportunity with the motherfucker with. And God is licking. He saw the chaos and was ready to strike. For no reason. God damn, bro. Also, you need to get,

Brandon Ingram hangs around G. Herber with him. He needs to stop hanging around those influences. For no reason. You're Ingram, bro. You went to Duke. Come on now. Who are you fighting? That's funny.

I love closing out with Rondo and Chris Paul. Everybody in the world that plays in the NBA seems to want to punch Chris Ball. I'm glad somebody got to fulfill their desires. yeah man what a show that's the end of the show if you're still here comments choose one carefully there's been a lot of moments in this pod that had been comment crayon eaters rejoice here we go yes follow us on twitter exclamation point crayon eaters rejoice i want to see it everywhere and i want to see you follow us on twitter for that PS5 back guys drive it away thanks we're done here