The Deep 3 Podcast - We Graded Every NBA Finals Player's Performance | Ep. 93
Episode Date: June 14, 2024Today we grade every player in the NBA finals and react to game 3! Check out the new crayon eater merch!: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Shoutout to Coinbase! Use promo code "20DEEP3" and ...sign up for a new Coinbase account to get $20 of free Bitcoin after you make your first trade! Join the TD3 discord!: https://discord.gg/RUkjpMPp7E Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- New merch! 3:16- Mo's haircut 6:00- Game 3 Finals Reaction 38:55- Finals Player Grades 1:12:16- Producer Corner 1:27:23- TikTok Time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So the second most important thing we got to talk about today is the fact that the Celtics pretty much is guaranteed that they're going to win the championship.
It's pretty much in stone.
Long road to get here, lots up and downs for the Celtics, but they're here.
We're going to talk about that plenty.
The most important thing to talk about is what's on most chest and what's on my chest, which is the new crayon eater merch.
Oh, shit.
Oh, my God.
This shit is fresh as hell.
Oh, my goodness.
Can you go ahead and get into detail as to what we see so far, Isaac?
Time about, time, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me.
No, no, no, no, no.
We don't need to talk about the merch.
Moe, what is on your face?
What?
What is on your face?
Melanin?
What do you mean?
You're a fool.
We'll get back to that pretty soon.
That's talking about there.
We'll get into that story.
Like I said, for the past two years,
ever since most are calling you all the crayon eaters,
which somehow it's stuck,
and that's the name of the audience,
you guys, the crayon eaters.
You're going to need it is what it is?
you guys been asking for crayon eater merch
of some variety
and it took us a while
but we came through
with three different designs
in several different garments for y'all
first off ago what I'm wearing
which is I don't even know what you call this
it's a crew neck with three crayons
and some silverware around it
it comes in this hoodie
and I'm kidding what I'm saying
it comes in this crew neck and white
and it also comes
in a hat that we have here
that comes in tan and white
heart beautiful my personal favorite
and I got it on for a reason
then we got what Mo has on
Moe has on
it. Oh my goodness. So right now I have on this fresh pack of Td3 crayons merch right here,
got the logo to the right of my chest, and then on the back. The back is harder than ever.
I believe you have it right there. We got four crayons of different colors. They said the deep three on
them. It comes in the t-shirt that I'm holding that comes in several different colors, gray, white,
I forget what the other ones are. I'm showing on screen now. I'm edited and post. We got it in the
t-shirt and we got it in the hoodie that mo's wearing and then last but not at least we have one more
design which also comes in a t-shirt the td3 famous crayons it looks like nathan's hot dogs or like a pizza
shop and on the back we got this whole picnic spread yeah that's drawn on crayons on plates right there
that's a classic this is this is one of our bed this is one of our best that shit's going to put
up the world numbers my version doesn't have it on there but the one you're going to be seeing has
Mo's handwriting that says Mo was here on the shirt. So it's a nice little detail since
Mo is the creator of the crown eaters. I figured he leave his stamp on one of our shirts.
No, no, no. I am not the creator. You two are creators and the crayon eaters watching this shit
is creators as well. This is a team. This is a team effort right here. And so I'll like to say
is that, yo, we have to make sure that our base, our support system, the reason why are here
continuously puts that shit on
and you watching this right now
have an opportunity to do so
rep the crayons
yeah man
let's talk about the finals
before
the cranium is crazy
oh my god
I mean I don't know
what to say
crayon eaters rejoice
before we get into the finals
you know be sure
likeness
from YouTube, dropped five stars, ratings and audio, all that shit.
Mo, explain what the fuck you're wearing why you look like, push-eisty, why you got the four bats on?
Four bats is crazy.
I wish that had his voice.
But earlier today, I went ahead and got...
Can you try?
Can you sing some of the lyricific on it?
Nah.
No, I'm sorry, I can't do it.
Can't do it.
earlier today went to a Dominican barbershop I saw I saw my poppy and I
dapped him up whatever cool actually I lied I called him called him he didn't answer I was
okay cool maybe he's busy it's like 10 a.m. or whatever I don't want to blow up his line so I'm
gonna go ahead go to the shop anyways show up there an hour later he's not there I'm like okay
I thought I set up on this a schedule appointment with you he didn't show up and I'm waiting for like
10 20 minutes 30 minutes starts to approach and I'm like
okay, I can't sit here all day and I have to get a cut because I'm going to a quite literally
a wedding the next day. And so there's a random dude who's sitting down. I see him. He's a barber,
but I never see him cut people there. He's just sitting on the chair. I never seen him cut anyone's
hair. So that should have been a red flag. Should have been, you know, when the number one signs,
I should never want to him. So I'm like, hey, you free. He's like, yeah, I'm free. And he dashed me
gives me the meanest dab up like I was his homie for 12 years or some crazy shit like that.
And so I'm getting my hair cut. He asked me. He asked me.
okay a whole bunch of questions how I like my hair
I like to close my eyes during my hair
just because it's weird having like making
locking in eye contact with your barber you know
so um halfway
into my hair cut I realized wow bro
I'm like wow bro
my fucking hairline looks like the Batman
logo I look like I'm calling out for
Bruce Bruce Bruce in this shit
bro I was about to say Bruce Brown
so once I got home I was like wow
I can't walk outside like this and on top of that
too he fucked up my hairline
cut my beard entirely too low
and then he gave me
a Hitler mustache
fucking me up in every single way possible
It was terrible
You got the full
You got just jumped by one man
It's crazy
And Nelson Cheena
And then he also chipped my
Eyebrown
It's fixed now so you can't notice
But chipped him
One of my eyebrows out
Without even asked me
If he if I wanted to touch up on it
So he just did it
So that's why I got the shycy on my right now
He gave you like the little Dilo
slashing eyebrow
No no no no no
He tried to shape it up.
He tried to shape it up with regular clippers, too.
He got you looking like a Puerto Rican dude.
Yeah.
It was terrible.
It was terrible.
Bad bunny type.
I see.
Messy.
Nothing else used to be so.
RIP.
Well, the Celtics are up 3-0 in devastating fashion to me as somebody who wanted the Maverg to win.
In glorious fashion, the Celtics fans, who told us all you this would happen.
They were right.
The Celtics are so much better.
the Mavs, even with our Chris Osporzingis, even with a rocky start that showed the value
of Christos Porzingis, when the Mavericks were getting to the rim in the first quarter,
I will, even with all this adversity, they come out, go up 3-0 in Dallas, just look like the
better team in every fast that the Mavs are overwhelmed. How are y'all feeling?
Listen, I kind of like expected it. I knew by the, listen, you can put whatever,
LeBron meme, you know, say I'm captain or whatever. I knew, by the end of the first,
first quarter out, like this game's over.
Like the Celtics are going to win this game because the MAVs came out.
They did what desperate teams do, right?
Especially whenever, you know, you're down 02, you go back home.
You come out with the flurry.
They jumped out on top.
They had a really big league.
Karee was going.
Luca was going.
And you're like, oh, okay, here we go.
And then the end of the first quarter happens.
And it's still a close game.
And then we get to halftime and the map's only up by one.
And so even with Kyrie and Luca doing,
everything that you want them to do.
And it's probably a situation that mass fans want to be in.
This is the entire argument for people picking the Mavericks,
which is if the game is close, I'll take Luca and Kyrie because I think that they can,
I think that they can, you know, close the door.
Yep.
That necessarily, that didn't happen.
Celtics blew it a little bit in the third.
And it's like, okay, if it's, if it's tied at halftime and the Celtics and only Jason
Tatum is playing well, they're going to turn up and it's going to be over.
you know why it didn't happen the fourth quarter it was close it was a two-point game multiple times in fourth quarter
but luca dants just fucking fouled out no not even even even even even even even before that even before that
this what the sultics do i know they came they went up 20 the fucking math came roaring back and if you
were that person that believes that you know close game loop can close it out he can't close it out when
he fouls out and when he's rolling on the ground giving up five points because he's complaining about calls
this is i tweeted out criticism luca dantsich i'm so
pro Luca and always defending him obviously
I cheated today I was like listen
he's really testing the limits of this whole
archetype of player whose offense is so good
they can have terrible defense we've seen that win
and we've seen that be top players in the league
he's really pushing it because his defensive effort today
was detrimental and I know they haven't lost any of the games
because they've lost it in most part because their offense
but they are having to do so much
schematic gymnastics to build around his defense
and make up for it
they're doing in the first quarter
they're like he's not even trying to defend drives
anymore because he's blown out so bad
he just like stands there and they pre-rotate
because they know he's not staying in front of Jalen
that just building into their defense
to rotate immediately. It's crazy how much they have to do
you mentioned how end of the first quarter
you knew they were going to win
of the first 21 maps points
18 of them were at the rim
they were getting wherever they want whenever they want
and then by the time the first quarter ended
they were only up by one
because they were up by six
and then Luca won
shoots a three
falls on the floor
looks at the ref
complains
four on five
on the other side
and Samhouser
fucking nails the three
next play
shoots a three
falls on the floor
complains doesn't get up
Jason Tatum
wide open dunk
immediately like that
changes the game
gives his fucking self
momentum
because of him
laying on the ground
stopping dropping and rolling
stop dropping rolling
I've heard that
combination of words
since I was like
eight years old
that's hilarious
I saw it twice in a row
it was ridiculous
is like Luke how do you film I'll let you go yeah yeah I don't listen the we should start game
four Lucas should already have a technical the so already have a technical bro the fact that
lucca doesn't have a technical in the series is crazy because not only see argue in every play
and you would think that the rest would get to a point where they're finally like eye bro like
you need to calm down and at least get one of those he's jumping up and down in their face he's
waving in his arms he's doing all the
the Draymond green stuff and even
Draymond, even Draymond
will get a quick tech and they might
not give him one for the rest of the game
but they'll start him off with one and just
be like kind of you know kind of
relax just tell him a little something
these reps are so scared to give
Luca a technical it's so ridiculous
and the only
people who are benefiting from it are
the Boston Celtics for all the reasons that Isaac said
and the fact that he
is a complete cone on defense
and it's not even five on five defense it's four on five defense a majority of the time
because of the complaining because he doesn't want to slide his feet because he's not
guarding anybody and again they're not losing because of because of Luca but he is but in that
aspect he's not helping them right he's not at all exactly he's not he's not even just
of a straight average a solid team defender where a lot of other
great players, great offensive players,
like Yokic Curry, all those guys.
At least they weren't embarrassing on defense
the way that Luca has been.
I think exactly.
Right now, what I'm seeing is a huge issue with Lucas.
Like a lot of people love to talk about like
how he plays with pace.
He probably has the best pace offensively,
but defensively too, God damn.
It looked like he has crazy pace too
because sometimes it looks like he's running and trying hard
and all of a sudden he's just in mud,
quicksang, can't move his feet whatsoever.
So that pace also seems to follow him for all of these, like a lot of reasons.
He's mostly jokes, but tired and effort and all those other stuff.
But I think what we're like all noticing and really seeing is that through all the
series that they've went through, whether it be the plus the against the Clippers or the Oklahoma City Thunder or the Memphis or the Minnesota Timberles,
which he really had an opportunity to do so.
This team punishes you in every single way possible because they have the bodies to do so.
and they also have, of course, like the schematics behind it, too.
And that's what we weren't, we weren't able to see the Minnesota terminals to do so
because Jane McDanielan can only do so much.
Obviously, Rital Bear is Baird, offensive bag is limited.
But for a team like the Boston Celtics, this team right here that we're witnessing
is one of the best teams that we've seen as of late.
And also, they quite literally outclass the Dallas mammaries, not from head to toe because
Lucas Luca's Luca, but from like neck to toe, basically.
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
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Um, yeah, the Luca conversation on defense is interesting because a lot of
made about his improvements this year, right?
We've seen him have earlier in the playoffs.
really legitimately great moments defensively.
Yeah.
So I don't want to make it sound like he's just like the worst offender in the league.
He's not like on 2019 Trey Young timing.
But there's a specific reason or reasons why he looks so fucking horrible this series
and why he looked so good in the previous series.
You look at the Clippers, who are their best players,
Paul George, James Hardin, these guys that are not the most gifted athletically
at this point of their careers, right?
They're older.
They're not beating you with speed necessarily.
Luca is a big body with length and IQ.
He can stay in front of these guys, one-on-one isolation.
Same thing we saw with Ann Edwards in some spurts
when he had some good stops
and won them games defensively
We know we think about that lob
That he broke up when Mike Conley
Try to lob it to go bare to close the game
He has a specific physical traits
To allow him to thrive in those scenarios
Celtics like Mo said
Are not one of those scenarios in which he can thrive
This team Jalen Brown is the fastest man on the court
And he knows it
Jason Tatum also quick
They keep the ball rotating nonstop
He has to close out to shooters
Be rotating on a whistle
And they can make
can pay because that's not his strengths at all. He's a truly atrocious softball defender. And
that's shining, right? You add the injuries to that. You add the offensive load. He's been
exposed defensively in the same way that like, you know, whenever Curry got picked on by
LeBron, that's such a specific way to target his biggest weakness that people were like,
oh, he's the worst defender ever. It wasn't really the case, but like, how was he going to
defend LeBron one-on-one? That's how I feel looking at this where, you know,
actually didn't even say that, because he can do a better job. He can fucking try harder.
he's just not and they're built to make that lack of effort really come out and be really noticeable
yeah man i remember in like 20 like 2015 2016 when we were in peak james hardin era
i remember i went on youtube one day and i typed in james hardin good defensive clips because
i was i was trying to i was trying to see his highlights right i wanted to see what he did good
and the google search corrected me and they said no you don't mean to type
in James Harden, good defense.
The auto-correct was James Harden bad defense.
And that is exactly what it feels like with Luke and that's what he's putting on film
for this finals, where everything that he has done and all the improvements, people are going
to search for that when they're trying to argue for Luca in the offseason and they're going
to go on YouTube and it's going to be like, actually, you know he's not that good.
Like, you know he's actually kind of this cone and it's, I don't, like part of it is effort,
but I also think that like the part of his game where he like argues with the refs
and he stays back that's that's who he is he's done that his entire career so I don't think
that that's anything that might be fixed going forward and so I do think that there's going to be
a certain level of defensive lapses with him that's probably going to stay with him for the
rest of his career.
Yeah.
I think also, you mentioned the crying about fouls.
Again, rare time where I'm here to slander Luca today because I think he was also
fucking them offensively at the end of the first quarter and started the second quarter.
You know, I mentioned 18 of the first 21 buckets were getting to the rim, doing great
productive offense on that side.
And then sometime at the end of the first quarter, he didn't get a foul his way.
And he just like snapped into that mode where he's like, oh, I'm going to show the refs every
play that they're fouling me.
every time down he would drive
pump fake lean in and try to get a foul
he did that like seven times in a row
while being a cone while laying on the floor
stopping dropping and rolling
right there buckets
yeah that time he made the shot that was actually dope
listen we're watching highlights
we're not watching the plays around that
exactly the plays around that he tried that so many times
and was just bogging down their offense
with bullshit and just really hurting them
on both sides of the ball by allowing himself
to get into this like mental battle where
I don't know I guess he's trying to prove to the rest
that he's getting foul every play
and it took them out of their rhythm
that led them to have that big league in the first quarter.
Now, while we are
kind of like ragging on Luca,
there's plenty of the reasons why
the Dallas Mavericks lost this game.
You know, like P.J. Washington
not, he didn't have necessarily a bad game,
but he wasn't there for like the first
three quarters or felt like.
And he had a couple of plays in the fourth
that made it seem like, you know,
it was a close game, which it actually was, I guess.
But the game is, like,
the most, like, jarring thing for me,
Of course, Luca can't escape this as well because he's a part of it.
But the Dallas Mavericks haven't cracked 100 points yet in this series.
If they were playing like this, the regular season, they would have the worst offense by far.
And it's not even close.
That is like the biggest takeaway from this.
And that shows whether it would be like, you know, just roster construction.
You guys see, oh my God, is that Tim Hardway Jr. on the court?
this dude hasn't made a shot in like four five weeks it's been a week we got so many minutes today
he got so many minutes and went oh for five 19 minutes for tim hardaway junior tonight
oh for five dude i'm glad you mentioned that listen yeah i'm ragged on luka because i have such
high expectations for him right we talk about him is maybe the second best player in the world
probably at least third like he is supposed to be that guy if you had hopes for the mad to win
the series it was going to be because he his individual excellence can carry them not the case obviously
But you're right
Their offense has been atrocious
And I think it's mostly because of Celtics defense
We talked about on the stream last week
And I think last week on this pod
After the first episode
They've completely eliminated him as a passer
They're not helping off a corner threes whatsoever
And the Maverick shooters
Really dope from the corners
PJ Washington
Clay Thompson from the corner
You put him above the break
Michael Thompson maybe
Like it does not look pretty by any means
It flips the game flips entirely
And it's all due to the Celtics defense
The fact that they've been able to switch
so heavy so effectively
as I wrote out of my notes
even the Celtics
you know quote unquote bad defenders
were in their bags today
Sam Hauser was switching
onto both star guards
holding his own
one of those plays
where Luke was foul baiting
is when he got switched
on a Peyton Pritchard
stood up and held him
Hell yeah
defenders
even the weakest defenders
were in their bags
switching not being able to be exposed
we're seeing just
an all-time great performance
in Celtics in this finals I think
good for you Peyton
good for you
yeah
yeah
You guys, you remember that?
I had a mini-argue with you, Isaac, about Payton Pritchard over here.
Now, I wasn't talking about his defense, but God damn it, he showed me another aspect.
And so what is the one?
I'm taking it.
Yeah.
When is the only, God-Dame it?
I don't know.
Who gives a shit?
He was defending his ass off today.
He was.
Mind you, but listen, in terms of just bucket getting, Payton Pritchard was O4 for today.
It doesn't matter.
He hit that one-three last game at the end of the quarter.
That's all he needed.
Exactly
Yeah, man
Listen, we can talk
We've talked at length so far
In the past two episodes
Count on the stream
Of why the MAVs are so down bad
They're bigs ineffective
They're shooters
Taken out by the Celtics
We know what the matchup advantage
Both sides have
The MAVs are just overmatched
We don't even got a harp on it
But bro, I said it on the stream last week
Now most people don't watch their streams
I watch the pods
I'll say it again
I found myself
During last game
And even this game too
In the second half
Looking at the Celtics team
being like, damn, you got to give it to them.
This is an awesome, awesome team.
As much as I and everybody else in the country
that's not a Celtics fan have hated on them
and not wanting to see them succeed,
this is such a dominant, all-time great team, man.
They're so good.
Like, even without Chris Stops, they took the L
that comes from losing him,
held their own, dealt with the ups and downs
of all the runs the maps are going to make,
played their game, and it showed in the second half
that they just have a foundation of winning
that is so good
because Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum
have gotten so good.
Two years ago after that finals loss,
we were talking about,
listen, these two guys have redundant skill sets.
They're never going to win,
playing off each other at this rate
because they don't make each other better
and yada, yada.
They have both developed in such unique ways
that I don't even feel that way anymore.
I feel like they're perfect fits now.
I feel like Jalen's downhill aggression
getting to the rim
really shines to Tateum
whose passing and willingness
to be versatile on both sides of the ball
has really gotten better.
Like they fit like a glove now
and I never thought I would say that
after 2022.
Yeah, and especially the fact that
like now like one of my biggest questions about this team coming into the into the postseason
was like how they were going to operate in late game situations and now that jalen brown is
clutch and he's out here making turn around jumpers to seal the game it's like hey i actually
feel pretty good about them you know like that's the he's locked in that's the one thing that
we can nitpick about this team throughout the regular season and really has been just a theme
across other sultics team but not this team right because obviously we drew them
because Ingest and much different, but you still have kind of that hangover.
But Jalen Brown, yo, at this point, he's finals MVP for me.
Jalen Brown has been awesome.
He scored the first 30-point game for the Celtics in this series.
He turned up because he was having an awful game in the first half.
He was not shooting well.
And then turned up to score, I think it was either 24 or 26.
I can't remember.
But I think it was 26 points in the second half, right?
It seemed like every time that the Celtics needed a big bucket at the end of the game
to keep Dallas just far enough away, Jalen Brown was there.
Tatum had a shot that he missed.
Who was there for the putback?
Jalen Brown.
He's hitting tough turnaround jumpers over Luca all day.
This jumper right there over Tim Hardaway, Jr., a minute left to make it a two-possession game.
Like, he's been outstanding.
It's the biggest shot of the series so far.
I 110% agree with what you saw Tatum do in the fourth quarter.
You know, he back with up.
He was like one for seven in the fourth quarter, two turnover.
Doesn't matter when your defense is that elite for someone of that size,
you can do so many other things.
And when you can rely on your defense as your crutch and have Jalen Brown
produce what he can produce in the fourth quarter,
which is clutch bucks from time to time.
And also just disastrous playmaking from Drew Holiday and Derek White,
whether it be on the ball, off the ball,
or just being defensive
just like menaces
and being a tornado
and causing havoc
wherever you are
like that's what they do
you're able to see
so much success
what I've learned
is that Brad Stevens
is like the ultimate geek
he Pythagrium
his way
into an NBA championship
bro
that's all it is
no this is one of the great
GM
starts with GM career ever
like to make these moves
I think he traded for Derek White
I think that was his first move
one of them
that was his first year
do that trade
then get Drew
assembled
one of the best
offensive back courts
we've ever seen
that obviously
you get Christops
for Zingis
while getting
picks back in the deal
because Marcus Marr
had the DPOI
aura
that just an all-time
great set of moves
and you just
like you said
you look at rats
devens
you're like damn
this guy's
great his job
you look at the back court
you're like
dang
these guys fit
perfectly
I look at the Js
and so I'm no
Celtics fan
but I look at them
I'm like I'm happy
for them
I'm happy for them
I wasn't
rooting for it
obviously
I wanted Luca to win
but now that I know
how it's going to go. I can take aside the biases. It's so good to see these guys who
dealt with, still are dealing with in Jason Tatum's case, more than their fair share of criticism,
more than what's fair. Most of it has been ridiculous. You know, last stream, me and Donovan
argued for 30 minutes about Jason Tatum slander. They've been dealing with that and have
learned from that. They've learned how to lock in and not even hear it anymore. Like I said,
they both improve their games in very specific ways to make themselves fit together. Jason
Tatum might be one of the most versatile players
in the league now. Absolutely. I never
thought I would say that when he was first coming a star. I thought he was
going to be back talk. I'm going to go get 30 forever. Now he's a guy
who can defend fives and be the point guard on offense.
Just fucking super soldier serum,
Draymond Green. That's crazy.
Yeah. Let's talk about Tatum too. Because like you said,
we had a very extensive Jason Tatum conversation on
Monday or Tuesday on the stream.
Jason Tatum, listen, this is what I was trying to
seat right especially especially in the first half nobody else is playing well derrick white
Derek white had so many shots in the first off in the first half where it was like way off right
he's airballing he's hitting the knuckleball exactly it was not a great showing from a lot of
from basically every other Celtic outside of tatum yet he finished the first half he had 20 points
he was shooting nearly 50% from the field he was he had an aggression to him that was
like all right guys i understand you guys aren't here right now show up in the second half i got us
right now and we're going to be okay and that was good and then also i feel like over the first
two games he has been very weary um about what he wanted to do and his bad shooting has put
him in positions where you can kind of see him hesitating to make moves this was as decisive as i've
seen him and there was a confidence to him that i haven't seen uh in this series i
I wrote it down in my notes.
There was a three that he had midway through the second.
Yeah, there's a three that he had midway through the second quarter at the top of the key.
And he, it's a one dribble pull-up into the three.
And he shot it with so much confidence.
And I was like, okay, like, we're actually, we're actually, you might see something from Tatum tonight.
And he ends up with 31 points.
And that is, that's the kind of games.
And these are the kinds of performances that everyone's like, okay, like, come on, Tatum.
and so I listen I slandered him a lot on the on the stream so shout out to
Tatum because he did exactly what I asked him to do for sure and it was obviously
going to come right I said on the stream he's an up and down player not just the down player
he's not going to be shitty forever that part's not surprising but the other part I'm just so
surprised now that he's the type of player that when he has these shooting woes like the first
two games he can be a guy that gets you 10 assists he can be a guy that dominates the boards
is able to defend fives make Derek lively irrelevant like the sheer versatility he brings
outside of his scoring now.
It's just so wildly different than who he was even two years ago.
It's quite literally invaluable.
And like,
I think this is prior to the season starting,
I believe,
we were talking about like the Tatum leap and whatnot
and what it would need to look like.
And I was like heavy on like,
I don't know if,
you know,
what he's been known to be would look like,
what the Celtics would need in terms of just like
reaching this championship,
unfucked with a level.
And him growing from that 23,
24 year old that he was a couple years ago
and just like you know
taking repeated dumb shots and all other stuff
that normal 23 24 year old is doing the NBA
to now like taking his time
playing with pace
reading what the what the defense
will give him and whatnot like
it's been smart it's been great
it's been just like
he he it's methodic
that's what it looks like right now and he's not forcing
anything yeah
yeah there's been obviously he's been so slander
despite winning because nobody wants
to root for the Celtics
And they had to find something to slander to make up for the fact that they're so easily going to win.
So they've pinpointed it on Jason Tatum so they can say, hey, at least your star sucks.
Take that, Celtic fans.
And the conversation has been like, how are you going to, the first team to win a championship without a top 10 players since the Pistons and all this shit?
It doesn't even matter, right?
Like this Celtics team just clearly is, even Jason Tatum, clearly is just a me over team guy now at this point.
And that's just very different than what he was when he was young, which when, you know, that team of Kyrie, when they talked at length now where everybody said they had too many,
people with different agendas in that locker room.
I don't think Jason Tatum and Jaylon Brown
were immune from that. They were part of that. They also
were young, wanted to get theirs. We're focused on
building a name for themselves. Now they have a name
for themselves. And they're just focused on winning.
They know this team is bigger than some of its parts.
It's just a positive element
in everybody's regard.
Yeah. So the question is
are they sweeping or not?
Probably at this point.
Right. Are they sweeping or not?
That can't happen. That can't.
That can't happen
You gotta think Luca gets won
But thus far he has none
So I guess he very well
Could get swept
Then we'll be shot at
The game two and game three
You would think
The game that the Celtics
Don't shoot well in
Don't shoot great from three
That's the game to get
On the road and steal
Mavs lose that one
Now game three
You come back home
Right you're gonna get
The role player bump
All these guys are gonna remember
How to shoot again
You don't win this game either
And so now you're going into game four
And I don't know if one
Like the series is over
We're not talking about that anymore
We're talking about just how many games do you think that Dallas can get
Dallas has been figured out
Like Boston understands how to play them
They know how to beat them
It's very simple
And if Luca
Continues to play the defense that he's playing right now
PJ Washington continues to shoot from three
the way that he's been all series,
I don't think that they can get a game.
So I'm going to say right now
that this series is probably going to be over,
but the night this episode comes out on Friday,
the series will end tonight.
I think I agree.
You know what?
The Celtics have been so fucking locked in,
Tomin set by Jalen Brown,
that they are locked.
Joe Mazzula's, a sociopath, locked.
I think they come out firing in the first quarter
and I think they put him down early.
and I think at that point
I can see the maps folding
like in a
not quite in a
2022 suns type of way
but not comes about 40
but I think it's going to rain
real early in the game
then it's going to pour
I can understand that
I can 100% understand that
but I just disagree
I think if Luca plays four more minutes
then we probably have a different
we're probably talking differently
about this entire series right now
I'm not talking about how it wraps up
and I don't see a world
and where like
you're Kairi's coming off
for 35 we just saw um Xavier Tillman go ahead and get 10 11 minutes and those 10 11 minutes that
we that he was on the court he definitely like although he had a three offensively you can
tell like there there felt like there were warps on their in their offense and it was nothing
everything just wasn't smooth yeah from the Celtics then when tellman was in the game so I think
that the Dallas Syrians will go definitely out swinging and I can imagine like a luca 40p is probably
a Kyrie 30 piece and whatnot and hopefully the world players get it together.
We didn't see Derek Jones Jr. for a good reason because he wasn't able to provide
any offensive punch nor really like defensive punch.
And if Tim Hardaway Jr. are one of these like random role players, PJ Washington,
Jaden Hardy, if he ever gets him, it's highly doubt he will because this doesn't feel like
a very Jaden Hardy type series.
I can envision the matter of getting at least one for sure.
So I disagree with your.
Disagreeing.
Good for them.
The hell?
Let them get one.
I just, I don't, I don't think so.
I disagree with your disagreeing because once again, like you said, Tim Hardaway Jr.
Disagree squared.
Is awful right now.
And the, the Mabs have went 11 deep in the second quarter.
Like Jason Kidd.
Now, granted, this is, this is something that I thought that he had to do just because he has to figure out,
is anybody going to be productive?
But Tim Hardaway Jr. is clearly not.
Maxie Kleber should not.
he should not touch the floor for the rest of the series.
Maxey Cleaver has been very unproductive to say it nicely.
Jaden Hardy, Dante X-M, seven minutes combined.
Like, their bench, we've talked, everybody talks a lot about how the South Sixs
don't really have depth and, you know, their top six.
Houser and Pritchard are playing.
They were able to get solid minutes out of Xavier Tillman.
If any one of these guys off the bench can give Dallas some screen.
going punch, then maybe. But it's been three games, and I don't see any of them popping off
in game four. They haven't done it up until this point. I have no faith that they're going to get
any substantial offense out of anybody outside of Luca and Kyrie. And because of that,
I think Boston is just going to do what they do. They're going to wear Dallas down. And they're
going to end this series on Friday. Yeah, I agree. I think the maps have no answers. They have no
addresses left to make. They have to just pray that again, no Christophers. There's going to be some
games where the maybe the Celtics just don't have juice in the tank they got to pray they
get a good night and then they're clicking at the same time none of those prayers have been
answered thus far i have no reason believe they will be if luca gives just simply more effort on
defense that'll stop like half of the wolves not half but like at least a quarrelals that the
dallas mavericks have been facing if he can simply do that and stay in the game then i think
they're going to just walk i wish that were something that could keep their way into a win
I wish that was something that were simple
but I don't think it is because
there's so many
advantages the Celtics have top to bottom
nobody on this team can stay
in front of Jalen Brown's fast ass
nobody can stay in front of Jason Tatum
nobody can rotate enough to not let Derek White
and out of course shoot all these corner three
is like there's so many holes and must be plugged
Luca just can't keep up
yeah and even
and especially for Derek White
who's having an off shoot tonight
there was a three that he made
towards the end of the game
it was the most predictable three that it was that it was about to go and he was wide open on
the right wing and as soon as he let the ball go i was like yeah cash like it's they are with
drew holiday shooting and playing the way that he has and then derrick white being who he is
not only are they all good and they're all like amazing at what they do they have a way of
hitting these timely shots and helping the celtics get out of trouble whenever it looks like
this and the one the one area where I'm like okay maybe Dallas can can get a game is stuff like this
where you're up by 20 again and you blow the lead and you're not able to close it out this feels
like it should have happened in game one you up by 29 gets down to eight really quickly in game
two once again you were up a lot towards the end of the game and then all of a sudden you look
up and there's a five point game with a minute left maybe Boston chokes that chokes that
but that's kind of your only hope
is that they beat themselves at this point
Listen, A square plus B square equal C square
Brad Stevens, congratulations if this does happen
But I think Kyrie and Lucan would be damned
To let Jason Tato and Derek White
And all them boys lift up the layer of Brian Chofi
On their court, what?
You want to have some nasty discourse?
It depends what's it about.
Christos Porzingis
I've seen a lot of Celtics fans
Very
Listen
All they can do is be happy about winning
So they have to find something a bitch about as fans do
They've been very
Dramatic about KP's injury
And I've seen some Celtics fans
Be like should we trade KP
He's giving us nothing
Because he can't play more than four games in a row
Without getting hurt
Should we just sell high
And get rid of him this summer
Do you think Chris
Offorsingis his health is an issue
That is the most moronic shit ever
KP is what makes them unbeatable
KP is like
one of three, four players in the entire NBA
with a special skill set to block
and play to shoot threes and play defense at a higher rate
is what makes them unbeatable at times.
Not even at times.
At all times it feels like, you know,
this team was already good, fine enough,
but damn, that don't make no sense.
Well, if he's going to be playing for Boston City Hospital
every week, doesn't matter?
Yes, it matters.
I think it'll be moron to go ahead and trade him.
Now, especially when Al Horford's like,
What is he, 37, 38 years old?
And, you know, no one talks about his productivity nowadays because it's so minimal.
I think it'll be moronic.
I understand it.
But it's like, Tom, what do you think?
I see you smiling over there.
What do you think, Don, you're just a sick guy for bringing that up.
Listen, Celtics fans are sick in the head.
They got to find something to talk about.
You being the man while he's down, Isaac, that's not right, bro.
I didn't do it.
I'm telling you with a dumb Celtics man that's on Twitter saying, I don't think they should do it.
No, we don't have to acknowledge that.
it is kind of insane that just his injury bad luck knows no bounds he had an injury that has been talked about a lot because there's a lot of words that i've never heard before the way to describe that injury is just crazy it's a very complex injury that nobody's ever heard of it was reported by woege that there are not by woege but somebody else actually that there have only been 30 documented cases
32. Yes.
32 documented cases in American records
of this injury happening to anybody in the country
ever.
This is the most rare
sports injury we've ever documented
and Christop's prosenghis managed to get it
on a routine free throw.
That is sick, bro.
And if it was to anyone in the NBA,
if you were to tell me this happened
last week, I'll be like, boom, Prusengis
because he just has like the worst
injury look of all times. Sometimes it feels like.
I would have said Zion.
But then Kawhi
I would say Chris Paul
Chris Paul
Chris Paul is a quality thing
Yeah Chris Paul's a quality thing
Not going to lie
Chris Paul is gonna like
Has
I don't know contact fall out
He's gonna lose a game
Because of it
Exactly
He's just gonna wake up
CTE
He could be like
How did he get it?
He's like I don't know
I don't remember
I don't remember
You tell me
Yeah man
Well by the time
The next episode comes out
Next Friday
I'm sure we're gonna have
The series being done
Clearly
it'll be a victory lap from the Celtics
we're going to talk big picture
what this means
for everybody's legacy
and the Celtics team
placed in history
all that
I think we can look forward
to that next week
in the meantime
the title of this episode
is about giving grades
to every player in the series
so now we're going to do that
which should be interesting
because especially for guys like Tatum
who lots of pros
lots of cons
over these first few games
and someone like Luca
who would have got like an A plus plus
if you did this after game two
maybe not so much now
only three games sample size
very small amount of games
to go off of
we're going to grade everybody
just based on these three games
you all want to start
with the maps or the Celtics
let's start with the maps
because we can really run through them
true
okay
you know
okay so what are we going to give
Kyrie Irving
who was
ass
and he went to
and came a really good
in game three
and you know
he showed up in the most important game
but game two
specifically was very winnable
if he didn't do awful
so I feel
like that should weigh him down a lot because he really could have potentially won him that
close game to be honest i want to give him a c i don't i wouldn't even want to give him a b that's fair
like c flat c plus c minus i'm i'm thinking c as well yeah i think he listen tonight great game 35
points the celtics have managed to eliminate him and lucas passers and you know lucca still
able to do a little bit i guess because he's such a gifted passer but not really carrie if his shot isn't
falling like it wasn't the first two games he's giving you
nothing. He is trying
his hardest defensively. He doesn't have the
lack of effort that Luca has, but the Southlux
have done some really smart things where they have
his man that he's defending sitting the dunker
spot. So whenever Jason Tatum blows by his guy
or Jatham Brown, Kyrie's the one to help
and he just looks silly, rotating
on a drive. He hasn't been
to be useful at all when a shot isn't falling for
two to three games. I don't think we can give anything
higher than to see. Yeah, I mean
speaking to look and silly,
there's just one play that's going to go vial
for sure. I believe it already has
where Jason Tatum, I believe he had someone on the corner and Kyrie just was doing the whoopsie
days. He's spinning it around. He didn't, he had no idea where he was at. It looked like he was
getting crossed without the ball in his opponent's hand. It was crazy. Um, yeah, no, that play
right there is very embarrassing and knock on I'd see. I'm looking past by the 35 points. I'm looking
past by the assists and all that. This is a solid C man. The only reason, the only people were
I remember we were ranking them, ranking the best players in this series and a BR stream.
And we wanted to go as high as putting them in the same tier as I believe Tatum, which we had
like a tier below Luca, whatever.
Like we can talk about how that tier system is kind of meh or whatever.
But that's something that we wanted to do.
And we all believe that in order for them to have a real chance in this series, Kyrie had
to be the mega, the Megalodon version of Kyrie.
we've known him to be over the last few years in the playoffs megaladon nice okay good good
adjective oh this tweet and kill pull that's he has 9k likes damn it's going crazy while
he'll be recording yeah you got clouds get to be a banger's all i did was restate what j jreddick
said but fuck it ethical score but uh yeah listen if it was before if we did just the first two games
kairie would get the f imaginable for failing to bring value in the one main way he brings
value but great game and game three got to give it to him c is i think
us being nice.
I agree.
Let's go Luca next.
Luca Donchish.
I was going to lead up to it, but we can just talk about it.
Yeah.
Has been great scoring the ball,
taken out of the game as a passer,
hasn't figured out of the way to make that work.
Maybe not necessarily his fault.
Outright damaging as a defender.
What are you thinking?
He's still the best player in the series.
Can we agree with that?
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, listen.
I mean, listen.
Don't let how piss poor his season.
team is like finesse you into thinking that he's lowered as a player his team his team being his
team being trash has nothing to do with him being blown by every play that has that that aspect has
has a little bit that no it it it doesn't if you're going if i say come here and it's one-on-one
and i blow past you and you're forcing everybody you're telling me come here but right after
right before that i've been orchestrating the offense completely and i did that play after play after
have to play after play after play like again so again so i'm not giving him a straight i'm not giving
him a straight c but he is bad on defense yeah yeah it would be it would it would it would be less
apparent if he if p. j washington and derrick jones are more equipped to defend the best players
in the seltics lucca has to defend on equal footing everybody else he can't hide it all because
their stoppers aren't real stoppery the series that does exacerbate a little bit which is his
team you know not helping him very much there i mean you could also try to stay it's one thing if
it's there's levels to it and the level that he is on is below the level of you're trying you're
just not good lucca is not trying and he's not good and so yeah i'm still going to grade him on
on a curve because he has to do so much off offensively and i'm going to give him a b minus but
Wow.
I think B plus is fair.
I was going to go A.
I would have said A.
I would have said A.
First two games, it was A.
He was fighting for his life, scoring really well.
Defense was bad.
It wasn't, I don't know, maybe it's just tonight you're really stuck with me because
three games in a row, whatever it is.
But I feel like tonight was especially bad and the offensive issues today of getting
into the bad habit of foul baiting and really losing that lead in the first quarter.
I think it was more clearly damaging today than it wasn't in previous two games.
where I think you can give him a little bit more of a pass in those first few games
of having the load like you're talking about having the injuries
I think tonight it really came to head and it'll lower him
but you know he's still scoring extremely well doing everything you can I think
offensively I think even in game one like he ended up with a good stat line
I felt like he had to like he had to really really work
and maybe this is more me praising the Celtics more than anything else
but I thought that he had to expound a lot of effort in game one
Oh, yeah.
Scoring.
Game two came a little bit, you know, it seemed like he had figured some stuff out.
But I don't, I just can't get past the stuff that I'm seeing.
Even in game two, there were cutups of his defense and how bad it was.
It was terrible.
You're right.
You're right.
Let me not act like it was good in game two.
It definitely wasn't.
I think I'm with you where I'm trying, I want to give that credit more to the Celtics defense for being generationally made in the series.
more so to, like, I think the fact that he's still scoring so well
while they've been defending so insanely and it's so difficult
and he's still managing to produce, that makes a little bit impressive to me
from a scoring perspective that I'm still wanting to give him B plus.
God damn, you know what I just realized?
We're about to witness Luca Dodgers gets potentially swept in the finals
when Trey Young faced off against this team last year.
He got a game on their own court.
All right, all right.
Just noticing.
I want you for the next guy.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
Okay.
Chris Osperry.
Derek White,
whatever.
I want you to just like jam it in your mouth so you can't speak.
You don't want to jam what in my mouth?
What?
Oh my God.
Anyways,
I guess you can go ahead and roll with Luca Dantz.
B plus, bro.
B plus Luca Dantius.
But that's,
that just means that he's the highest.
Like,
is this the highest that we can put it to your rank a player?
I don't know.
We will see.
No,
I think everything's contextual of what they're being asked.
So I think some Celtics will rank high.
yeah uh yeah but okay that's fair that's fair that standards yeah that's fair okay okay but it's the
highest a maverick can be ranked i can tell you that oh absolutely all right question
der jones we can't come out we can save ourselves a whole bunch of time everybody else is enough
everybody else no stop it stop it everybody else okay let's bunch together everybody else we can't be
enough let's bunch together everybody else is well tonight
I think Derek lively and PJ Washington
can get a D for doing something's productive
Everybody else can have an F if you'd like
Has Derek has uh has PD Washington
Has he made more than one three
He's he's made one three he's been one for nine
Throughout this entirety of the series
His threes have been terrible
But I think he's oh he was three of six tonight
He was three to six tonight
All right shout up PJ
Shout out PJ
Yeah his threes haven't been particularly good
Before tonight
And even tonight
I guess that was good
I think he can
get a D or maybe even
C minus if you want to be nice because I think she's done
some good stuff attacking, putting the ball on the court
to make up for the fact that threes are being taken out of the game.
I heard Zach Lowe say that
Jason Kidd told PJ
Washington to go be our Magic Johnson, which
is a hilarious quote. Actually, I think
I heard Pierre say that on numbers on the board
which is, you know,
it's hilarious. Jason Kidd's old ass
picks a big forward that can pass the ball
to get his point across. But I
think you see that. You see aggression on PJ's part
trying to make up for the value that he's not bringing as a shooter
I don't mind giving him a C-minus or a D
C-minus is perfectly placed
because he was the second best player
in game two
He's been consistently just like
The third second best player
Throughout the entire series
For the map for the Dallas Mavericks
I believe so C's fair
Yeah I think he's been solid
Yeah let's go see
I don't think he's been bad
The shooting has been taken out
From a game plan perspective
With the Celtics
He's gotten his most useful element of his game
Taken away from entirely
And he's found ways to be valuable
In other ways
Which is more than some of these other motherfuckers
can say for themselves.
I agree with y'all if we were ranking the players on the Dallas Mavericks.
But if we are given individual grades, no, you're all bad.
You are all bad.
You have played poor basketball for a week now.
And the only reason why you guys are semi in the series is because of Luca.
That's it.
But nobody else.
Oh, no.
You got, they have, well.
They have been actively hurt.
their offense and this is
offensively exactly right
defensively the teams defended well
I'm not going to act like I get it
Derek Jones can get an F how about that let's satisfy you there
Derek Jones you get an F Derek Jones
Tim Hardaway Jr. Maxie Kleber
all of them you guys are F you're right
Maxikleba you get an F minus this motherfucker's shoulder
does not work and he's still out there trying
props to him he's like KP he said I'll die on this court
that's why he gets a regular that's why he gets a regular F
because he's trying to
Tim Hardaway, Jr., you get an F-minus.
That's what you get.
He hasn't hit a song until May 18th.
Max and Cleave is trying.
That's what I'm saying.
Jason kid keeps letting him try.
But him trying is actively detrimental.
He has the worst plus minus on his team.
He looks slow.
He can't shoot.
He can't switch.
He has been awful in every way
every time he touches the court.
What he can't shoot?
Can't switch?
Can't rebound?
What can't he do then?
Did I say this couple of plots ago?
I was like,
he's a player.
that's bad at everything
but finds a way to be useful
not an above average shooter
not an above average mobility
not an above average rebounder
not a good shot blocker
none of these things
and normally normally he finds
a way valuable by just being really smart
and being the right place
hasn't done any of that
so all the bad traits are just shining
bro tonight maxi cleaver
played eight minutes
he had the second worst
plus minus on the team
second only to Tim
Hardaway Jr.
these guys are so bad if I was Luca
the one pass that I give Luca
if we're talking about like complaining and being a bad leader
if you see Tim Hardaway Jr. take a shot
you have permission to throw your hands in the air
and be like ah here we go again right
because these guys aren't doing anything
so they're both getting Fs we can give Derek Jones an F
who else can we give an F2
everybody I mean nobody else is really relevant sure
you can you can sprinkle a little
F on Hardy, Green and Exum, if you like.
They don't really play.
Like, they play very minimal minutes.
Oh, I'm giving Josh Green.
I don't care what is on the stat sheet for Josh Green.
I know somebody who's getting cardio when I see it.
I don't.
He is cardio, man.
He sprints up that court so well.
He gets, every time Luke gets the ball, you say, well.
He is taking off straight to the corner.
I know somebody who's just out there for fun and trying to get their steps in.
I see it.
I've seen that person multiple times.
He's trying to reach his 10K.
Exactly.
He can't close those rings?
That's it.
If you don't think he has his Apple Watch on his ankle or something, I know what I see.
That man is not out here for the love of the game.
Okay.
Daniel Gaffer can have a C as well.
He's doing Daniel Gafford things.
He's catching his dunks three for three from the field two of these games, not particularly defending well against the Celtics.
He's getting stretched out at the perimeter.
Doing Daniel Gafford things, very low standards.
think he can have a c minus if you'd like sure the real question is where do we want to what do
you guys want to give kary irving we did him first remember yeah we did carry first damn this i see too
too tight bro what the fuck i'm trying to lose circulation of my goddamn brain what do we give kairri irving
no we gave him a c what did we give him a c lively who was awful in the first of games are
pretty good tonight do we give him the same thing kirees give him a see i would give him a c for sure
maybe c plus then he came out well i mean i'll give derrick live
a pass just because I know that man still has a concussion that man was need in his head so
bad and the guy hit on his neck directly the game after I don't know what protocol the NBA
put him through it's not the one that checks for CTE he's he might still be hurt I know they
I'll give him a seat the first two games he was getting alive by KP he couldn't play so as soon as
KP's gone we see more of the regular Derek lively we came to expect which was third best
player on the Mavs that guy was back tonight because KP's long ass wasn't there to block every
layup attempt he had good for him
back to himself all right
all right that's fair let's move on to the
Celtics let's move on to the team that's interesting
well I guess that was interesting let me not even say that
all right Samhouser
see A plus
he said a plus start his role
everybody has a ragging on him as if he was
a complete nothing negative outside of
being white and shooting very well
from the three point line that's it no one
saw the effort that he
no one foreseen the effort that he would be giving on the
on the defensive end moving his feet
extremely well, making those extra passes
just being right where he's
supposed to be, which is out in the wing at all
times. And when the defense... He hit
three threes tonight and gave 14 minutes
a very serviceable defense on Luca
Donchish. That is the most you can ask for
in Sam Hauser's role. That's a star
in your role as a ninth man off the bench. Good job, Sam.
Best night of basketball
of his entire life right there. He's
the new fan favorite. It's the most valuable 14 minutes of his life.
I tell you that. Oh, my gosh.
And like his involvement now.
Payne Pritcher
D
Okay Paying Pitcher is 0 for 4
0 for 7
And 1 for 2 in these games
He defended well tonight
I don't remember how he defended
The first two games
You guys decide
I don't really give a shit
He gets a D just because
He listen
It's like 2K
He has a highlight play
So you get a little bit of a boost
But that's the only shot he's made
So yeah
It hasn't been great
All I remember
Yep
All I remember is he made that one deep three
Literally the only shot
And then he made Luca Donchage miss one jumper
Yeah, and the play right after that too
Kyrie Isolam and he stayed right put put the clams on as well
So I'd go ahead and give him a C just because he's like he's not hurting the team
He can't okay, no no he's not he's not hurting the team
Fair you can't well I mean the team's so great no you couldn't hurt him if you wanted you can't be one for 14 in no
And you he could have hurt average he could hurt the team if he really wanted to he could be maxie
creeper out there he literally could be maxed
about there.
And he somehow finds a way to be positive.
So he hasn't made a shot.
He has a minute one today plus minus.
He hasn't made a shot in the flow of the offense in three games.
He's getting outplayed by Sam Hauser.
No, you're not getting a seat.
It's not about making shots at all times, bro.
I mean, we were.
What else is?
We're phrasing.
Yes, it is about that.
No, what do you mean?
He's finding other ways to win just like Jason Tatum right now.
To me, he's a seat.
How many sisters?
he have a good amount he had one rebound one assist tonight you only play 11 minutes
and too badger gets a d let's move on and two he's crazy wow yeah david toulman didn't play until
tonight we don't got to rank him shout on david tilman he hit that three sure good for tilman
great play let's get to the important part jaylon brown hey i was gonna say we mentioned in the last
part that luca dants gets a b plus and he's the best player in the series so theoretically he should
have the highest grade, right?
I think Jalen Brown deserves an A.
I think his two-way play has been suffocating to Kyrie Irving in the first two games.
Not so much tonight.
Kyrie got in his bag a little bit.
And he also did a really good job making life hard for Luka Donchich when he switched on him.
And it's in making him work defensively in a way that is tiring him out, really shining
Lucas defensive weaknesses.
I don't know how we can't give him an egg.
What is, what do we possibly lower him for?
Nothing.
You can't.
I mean, no, not really, right.
turned up too. Yeah, two way demon. Two way demon is the best way to play it with the way he's
been attacking the room full force and noticing whenever he has Luke on him, just like doing the
simple thing, just going straight at him and second option after that, just kicking out and
how he's been just blocking shots ferociously left and right, whether it be game one on
Kyrie or whether it be like game two work. Like it doesn't matter. His impact has felt on the
defensive end and especially like when he's just attacking the room, making those clutch plays,
especially with the way he was doing in the fourth quarter in game three.
Yeah.
Give him a...
He's shot over 50% in every single game in the series.
Oh, yeah.
He's just been so consistent.
Yeah.
He's been trying to get into that finals MVP.
Ooh, which is going to be a conversation we're going to have pretty soon because he's making a claim.
What?
He's making more than a claim.
It's his right now.
It's written in pencil right now.
I don't know.
Jason Tam is good tonight, too, so we'll see.
And there is something to be said as a fact that, you know, Jason Tendon is being the lead playmaker, which is valuable.
but Jalen Brown's role is play off of that attention he gets
and make the most of it,
be an efficient score with the one-on-one coverage you get
because it don't embodies Jason Tatum,
and he hasn't struggled with that even a little bit.
He's roasted occasion and done better than you could have hoped.
Now, I'm going to give it to Jainabra.
I think he firmly has finals MVP right now.
Yeah, Jalenberg has been helping closing these fourth quarters
if you've been, yeah, like the fourth quarter that Jason Tatum had
was genuinely atrocious.
No one talks about it, no one's cares.
no one's going to really like nitpick because they won kudos good job or whatever but again like
one for seven from the field i wasn't trying to say anything have you lost your mind no one's
losing their mind i'm literally you've lost your mind picking out what no hold on hold on you
has talked about this now no no you're right you're right i'm not disagree with you he was bad
you've lost your mind if you think people aren't going to nitpick jason tatum we will be talking about
this today i'm not talking about people i'm not talking about people this is us three of us in this room
right now for
you're kind of
kill
I was kidding
but um
what are you saying
yeah but
is there any argument
for Jalen Brown
to get less than a
no there's not
no
no real one
Mr. Mojo
what are you giving
Jason Tatum
me personally
either a B plus
or an A
I might be okay
with a B plus
because why is that just the extra passes that he's been making in the rebound and just overall
versatility and just being the best multiple versions of him he could be whenever he's needed
the most tonight earlier in the game uh being the offensive using all of his offensive firepower
him good three after good three in the first second quarter and whatnot i think you put up like
20 points in the first half like you said it earlier donovan um but yeah no like the
defense, the passing, the constant penetration, and just using his pace to set the tone for
the Boston Celtics offense, which is what they haven't had. Or this entire era is what's
making all, what's also making them feel like unbeatable at times. Yeah. So, I'll go B plus with
you. I think we can't go A because the lack of efficiency in the first few games, you know,
that's as important and really impressive every other element of his game was. That's part of it. And an A
implies like you're being like as good as you can be in your role and you could have shot better
through two games even though that was fixed tonight. Donovan, as a president of the Jason Tatum
Slander Club, Donovan, where are you going? Okay. I don't even think it's the slander club. It's more
like a support group. I just, I want it. I want Jason Tatum to be great and I want him to want it for
himself. And sometimes the way that he shoots, it gives me the impression that he doesn't really care
about that. Right. So there's that. I think that is a hilarious way.
to describe being a hater i'm giving him i'm giving him a b uh i think b wow was literally the
difference between a b and a b plus is like an 84 to an 80s like relax true
no he shot he shot he shot very poorly um through through the first two games and then even
tonight um like he still he still moved the ball
a lot, I think, and maybe it just was as apparent because his shot was falling tonight and because
he was very aggressive early on, um, looking for his own bucket. But I don't think that his passing
tonight was on the same level that it was in game one in game two. And then if we are nitpicking,
I guess the only two points that I'm taking away from y'all's grade would be the fact that
the performance tonight wasn't 100% consistent and we get to the fourth quarter and there
were a lot of miss shots and jalen kind of had to pick up the the slack there so those are
the small things but he i'm i'm not going to sit here and say jason tatum has been a bad
basketball player through three games he's had shooting struggles but he's done a lot of other good
things i think a solid b is fine i think that's fair there's like it said we talked about it at length
last stream lots of things to point to that has done well despite the immense shooting difficulties
but at the day you have to score efficiently
you know it's not everything and we can
as educated basketball fans realize
it's not about being a box score watcher and just saying
oh poor shooting equals poor performance
it's not that simple
but it is one of the more important parts of the game
especially as elite score you know you
shooting well despite tough coverages
as part of being a superstar so it has to be accounted for
in some way calling someone a box score watcher
is like a top tier basketball community slur
it's hilarious oh well Twitter's full of them
the Jason Tim discourse has been nothing but box score watchers
having a field day.
Listen, his opponent, you know what I'm saying?
Uncle Drew, Uncle Drew said this game
has always been and will always
be about getting a bucket.
And sometimes Jason Tatum just don't be getting buckets
like that. So I'm going
A ball don't stop-ass logic.
Gross. I'm sorry.
Okay.
Derek White. What are we giving Derek White?
I pissed him off.
Derek White deserves a cool
B-plus. You could talk
see me about an A, but I feel comfortable with a B plus.
Yeah, it's hard to. I mean, Derek White has been Derek White, right?
Like, he's so steady. And obviously he didn't shoot super well tonight. I can't remember
what he shot in the last game either. The whole team didn't shoot well, so he probably didn't
shoot great. But he's been Derek White. He had a clutch block as one of the best shot blocking
guards we've ever seen. Defense has been great, making all the plays. He's been Derek White.
He's been hitting all the bailout threes specifically as well. I remember down the stretch,
there was one play where drew holiday i think it was in the fourth third quarter actually drew
holliday was uh head down towards the rim and he threw a pass in the air midair and i believe
it was with it was with his left hand threw it out to derrick right and he cashed and that helped
the boss of celtics not absolutely blow the lead that they had so i'll go ahead to give him a b
plus maybe in a because he's been doing what he's doing yeah i'm going i'm going to the same thing
I think Derek White, he had a bad first half, but like he is over and over,
Derek White is just timely.
He's always going to be in the right place at the right time, especially whenever the game gets tough.
Yeah, he started off one for seven today, ended up, ended off the night four of ten.
So he hit his next three shots.
They were all threes.
It was very, it was, you know, big, big, big stuff for it, or I guess I think two of them were threes.
so big stuff he hit a very clutch shot towards the end
I'll go B plus as well
okay Drew Holliday
A minus
Yeah I think it would have been an A plus for the first two games
You know he had that big 26 point second game
Went 11 for 14 from the field 11 rebounds
First game only 12 points but really
The first two games was a defensive masterclass
Really shut down Kyrie Irving
With the help of Jalen Brown Derek White
You know heavy switching defense
But as a primary assignment Drew Holiday has made
Kyrie Irving's life hell
Tonight, you know
That normalized a little bit
So he's no longer like
Oh my guys, he's the final's MVP
But you still can't be upset
With his performance in any way
It's been same thing of Derek White
He's been Drew Holiday
Yeah and even with the stuff
Even with how good Kyrie played tonight
He still made Kyrie work
For a lot of his shots
Kyrie still had to take some
He had to take some faders
Had to take some leaners
Drew Hollidays
is those two guards, Drew Holiday and Derek White,
we can say everything about their games.
And at the same time, you can say nothing.
Because at the end of the day, you just can be like, yeah, like, that's Derek White.
That's Drew Holiday.
They're going to do what they're going to do, right?
They're going to play good defense.
They're not going to be stupid with the ball.
And I do, listen, this is part of the reason why I was like,
this is a really, you know, big upgrade over market smart.
I think we all thought that
but he's been
every piece as good
as the Celtics wanted him to be
whenever they made the trade
to go get him so.
Yeah, I'm going to agree.
These two have clearly been coached up to
they've clearly been coached up
to disrupt Kyrie and Luca's ball handling
and really reach for the ball a lot.
Clearly Joe Mazzulu saw something
that if you get into their handle
it'll really disrupt their drives
and Drew Holiday has been doing that
every single time really making it hard
for them to get to the rim
by just pressuring their hands
And that's one of those little small things
that most people won't notice,
but it makes a huge difference
to keeping the Mavericks out of the rhythm.
Yeah.
I 100% degrees reeking havoc.
Al Horford.
What are we rating Al Horford as?
Really set up tonight in the absence of Christophers
for Zingis.
The first two games, I saw a stat
that when being target in isolation,
teams were shooting,
they were shooting less than 20% against them.
And, you know, they put them out there a lot
and, like, really tried to beg
Luca Dantches to attack.
him and dare you to beat us one-on-one against Al and he held up really well he was I think
Al has been I think I was been really good in this series I would teeter on that like a
minus B plus line depending yeah depending on how you guys feel I'm good with either one of
those but that's kind of where I'm at Al Horford is so steady and ready at all times
rebounding whenever he can spacing the floor out making those time you pass
as well, just like every other Celtic
feels like, I'm cool.
Dude, we're saying the same shit about everybody
because they've been so dominant
and all the ways you'd expect.
Hey, minus, like, he's just been great
in the same way. He was great forever.
It was precisely what you'd expect from him.
This is the most Al Horford series ever.
He's not going to be like dominant game breaking,
not going to rebound heller or block hell of shots,
but he's going to get you them 10 points, 12 points.
He's going to get you like 5, 6 rebounds.
And he's going to make sure he gets those three, two assists in every single game.
I think he's the Michael Jordan of Max Cleepas.
Don't.
Don't disrespect.
Al Horford like that.
That's disrespect.
He just called him Michael Jordan.
He's the Michael Jordan of Maxie Clebers.
He's the best possible version of this guy that isn't going to woo you in any of, in his old state, that is, in his old age.
He's not going to woo you in any hardcore skill.
Like, you know, KP is going to woo you with the shot blocking his three.
point shooting. As 38
years old, Al Horford is not going to blow you away in any of these
singular facets, but he will find
a way to be in the right place and make you
better every time he's on the court.
Comparing
him to Maxi-Cleva
is disgusting.
You know how this format works. He's not being
compared. I know. I see how
that format works. Like, you're using this. He's fulfilling all
his potential in terms of whatever that
idea is. I get it. I understand it.
He's the gulp of Maxi-Cleva's.
Alhoer's just a bad
in general
If you're the goat of anything
Then you're in good standings
Disgusting
Okay
That's good and fuck
Let's just throw Chrisuss
We're using us an A minus two
This whole team gets them
Performing as well as you could possibly hope
Joe Mizzulu gets an A plus
Jason Kidd gets
What does what does Jason
Kid get?
Because he's getting pretty fucking dominated
You said Jason Kidd?
Yeah
Now how much of that
How much of him getting dominated
is also his players just suck this series so yeah he can't yeah but they didn't suck last series
i don't think players suck i think joe mazou and their game plan is just so much better
guys got to make shots i i feel like there's a baseline of players having to to perform and then
jason k can have a little bit of i'm not saying he's perfect or nothing but you got to give him
something to work with and we've seen a majority of these guys not
give Jason Kidd anything that he can look at and be like okay I can put you here I can put you
there it's more just about like can you do anything I think the bigger problem is that they can't
get shots like it's hard to exaggerate how game breaking it is that they cannot get a corner three
off that the Celtics have successfully completely eliminated that these guys are talking about
PJ Derek Jones they just cannot get a shot the Celtic the mass are taking like 25
3s a game as Burt mid-sentence those are taking so few threes
they're not being put in a position to succeed
there's no counters being thrown in that are effective
they get them easy shots they're having to make
it work in the toughest possible scenarios
and again that comes down
to the personnel the Celtics have
but Jason Kidd has failed to find a counter
if there is any
I mean you're right
his job as a head coach is to put his team
in the best position to succeed
but at the same time I agree with Donov
is only so far your team can take you
because like who else do you want to take him like
five threes outside of
Luca over five days outside of Luca Kyrie and like PJ Washington like I don't trust all of
those shooters I don't think they were built to go and do so about that it's he has to just find
I mean again the realistic outcome is probably there's no way to do it I think they're
yeah they exhaust all options and they're just outmatched personnel wise but you know
surely some coach out there would have found a really smart offensive counter to produce open
shots I don't know it's probably not impossible in Jason kid's defense he watched
one game of his team play against the Celtics and was like yeah i'm going to have to play my
games on this like i i'm going to have to start something in the press conference he knew after
game one that they did not have any hope and so i can't really bash him because again i don't think
that he has are you telling me his biggest counter was saying that dylan brown's the best part on the
celtics what else he had three cards to play he's like this i can either have the celtics
destroyed from within
or I can play Tim Hardaway Jr.
Neither of them worked
by the way but like he had to do something
so.
Listen, their defense has been good
and that's Jason kids calling card
he's never been an offensive genius.
Yeah, I don't know.
Let's just give him a D I guess.
There's no, there's nothing positive
that's happened or changed
for real for this team.
So they still haven't cracked 100 points.
That's absolutely disgusting.
Give him a D.
Yeah.
All right, well, that's the end of our grades.
I think now
it's time for producer corner
nit nit nit nit nit nit nit
Nikiel's moment is here
that was a producer tag
I'm gonna keep that in there
normally I was gonna edit that out
like that was so good
Now we do the transition card
after Mo got that off
What's up y'all
Welcome to producer corner
Hello
That's what I was expecting
All right
I think you guys have an idea
What's about to happen
Let me tell the viewers.
I have no idea.
You should have a perfect understanding what's about to happen.
So we're about to find out who is king of the crayon eaters.
All right?
What does that mean?
We're going to test each other and see, and this is like a complete, like 100% accurate evaluation.
We're going to see who knows the most about each other.
Okay.
You guys ready to see that?
All I guess so.
All I know is you ask me two questions.
I'm going to need my phone.
you're going to need your phone
we're going to
new school with this
oh shit
what is this
are we playing cahoot
yes we're playing off-brain cahoot
as soon as this thing starts up
you couldn't afford regular cahoot
is it cost money
no this one's better
because regular cahoot
has a premium now
which is kind of crazy
oh what
they don't put a pay wall
on my childhood
RP
I ain't a lot
I might lose this bitch
because I won't talk to
Isaac or Donovan
unless I'm fucking recording videos
It's not true
I know
The slime
You're making up thinking you hear
You're in constant communication
Blakely falls
They have my location
Pain
All right
Here we go
There we go
There we go to play.
Go to play.booklet.com
Okay
Play dot booklet
Blook it
I know the question
Look it
oh bloc yeah i can't i can't see
el typer
bachle bit bookies
let's see
come on now
i i'm excited at this
okay
i know what this sounds like
i know the two questions you asked me
but i don't know if everybody else
was the same questions so it's a little trial run
there's only two questions for each person
obviously if the question is about you
don't answer it like if the question is about
Isaac then isa obviously you wouldn't answer
we're trying to play ethical cahoot right now
I like this goldfish is hard
gotcha okay so
I'm waiting for the host
we here
shout on Dimo okay
Who the hell is Bradley Cooper
Sounds like a football player
There's okay listen there's three of us
One has my name
The other has your name
Let's no
Bradley Cooper is in real life
He doesn't know
Bradley Cooper the actor
Oh I thought it was a football player
Sounds like a tight if I heard one before
bro
I was about to be like damn
He sounds nice.
Should I tap in?
That is the widest name of all time.
That definitely sounds like
it could be a tied in from Iowa.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, y'all good?
Okay, so how does this work?
Let's roll.
It's basically exactly like a hoot.
So I think we're going to start off
with a question about Moe,
and so you and Donovan are going to answer
and, you know, we'll just go from there.
Okay, here we go.
Let's do it.
This is different.
I'm with it.
All right.
Three, get ready, y'all.
How old was Moe when he had his first,
kiss
I don't
okay so
my first thought
was like
probably young
I don't know
it feels like a
moe thing
but then again
we saw a picture
from last week
and he was
he was ugly
as fuck
all right
when did Moe glow up
I'm
was ugly as shit
when we saw
that picture
for him
was like a 12 year old
all right
I sent my answer
Mo can you
defend yourself
right now
no
this is not my question
bro
okay I submit
my answer
I bet
I think I can just
go ahead
wait
Mo just type in
one or something
just type
whatever
cool okay
did you guys both put 15
wait two was got it right
oh no okay never mind
that's something you responded so
so the answer was 15
mo was 15 years old when he had his first case
oh i got it right
i said 15 wow
and then donovan
what do you put
I said 11
11 years old
11 who do you think I am
you thought he was in middle school
just slinging it around
dude you saw that
You saw that picture of him when he was 12.
He was mud.
Why would you possibly think he was mud?
What the fuck?
11 years old.
I've seen ugly kids kiss before.
Like, I've seen it before.
He said it happened to me.
I'm right here.
You've all seen people that you've been like, you're with somebody that's crazy.
That's wild.
No, I'm not
I don't know how I got that right
15 that's fucking crazy
It's because you know
Listen, you're going for the crowd
You might take the crayon eaters
That's all right
Listen brother poopers up
All right next question
What would Isaac say
Is the most annoying quality
A person can I have
I got my hand turn already
I promise you guys are not going to get this
I typed it.
I sent it.
All right.
Isaac said that the most knowing quality of a person can have is supporting the KKK.
All right, bro.
Okay.
Well, hold on.
I have something that could fall into that umbrella.
I just say,
what did you say?
Yeah, we can make a different call.
Just straight dumb.
I said, I said stupidity.
Yeah.
What did you say, Mo?
Dumb.
Same shit of Donovan.
If there's, Isaac's right.
Listen, if there is one thing that Isaac, Isaac hates a stupid person.
Yeah.
I was just going to say, I hate the KKK.
You might be okay with them.
But if they're stupid, oh, no, you can't stand them.
No, I don't hate a stupid person.
I hate a stupid person that's loud about it and thinks they're a genius and will, like,
be loud and wrong and pretend they're an expert on everything.
Like those motherfuckers that do, like, one hour of YouTube research and think they're an expert on everything,
that this week they're arguing about the WMBA, last.
that are arguing about AI the week before that the blockchain like they pick a new topic
I mean he's called you just say his name
listen y'all don't understand what's going on right now but this is an extremely
targeted attack no it's not I hate all those instant expert motherfuckers that think
they're geniuses the worst you could be is ignorant and confident together bro he's
sending up the heat seekers in this bitch right now that's what I see this is extremely
Targeting.
Which is Isaac's version of
like the shoe fits.
Ignorance and arrogance
is a deadly combination
is the worst.
It's fair.
Isaac, do you want to give them
I think we're right though?
I give,
some people are just dumb
and they're not annoying
about it.
That's fine.
Good for them.
That is so funny.
Okay, I'm going to give you all points.
All right, everyone's tied to one.
Let's go.
I guess his next thing is about me.
It is.
On a scale of one to ten,
how gullible do you think
Donovan considers himself?
Probably very.
I got my answer
I put eight
Damn you all are quick
Listen
Godwin
Wow I said six
Wow
All right y'all
All right y'all split the difference
I shouldn't know but said everybody picks fucking seven
That's such a just like a go to answer
I was I was gonna go eight
My first my initial answer was eight
And I changed it to to seven
But so I point shit
It probably is eight though
I just can I we both leaned obviously like yeah he's kind of goal
What made you, like, say that, Isaac?
Whatever you see from Dom was just like, oh, my God.
I don't know.
Why did I, why did I immediately say, oh, he's gullible and shit?
I don't know.
I think, like, if I see, like, a random person, like, if a random person were to tell me something, I would be very cynical.
But if I know you, you could tell me anything and I would believe you.
Because I would be like, because, like, we were talking and you were like, oh, yeah, like, I did this when I was, you know, 14 or this happened yesterday.
I'd be like, okay, like, why would Mo lie to me?
Like, I just wouldn't think that.
I wouldn't think it at all.
It's actually kind of wholesome.
I guess that's what I said.
That's why I thought that because I'm the opposite.
I'm very like, be for real.
Like, I'm very questioning of everything.
And I feel like you're the opposite.
So I immediately was like, oh, he's not me.
He's in here.
Okay, what's the next one?
All right.
We're snake drafting.
Back to Donovan.
Oh, okay for this?
Yeah.
All right.
So let me be clear.
excluding celebrity crushes
I mean three celebrities
Donovan would invite to a dinner party
Okay
I have no fucking idea
Holy shit
Okay
Also if you get like two out of three right
You get the point
Okay I think I have a good answer
I think I have a great list of people
I feel like you threw a curveball in there
I'm hoping I'd land on the right one
There's a good chance I was right
Two of them I know are locks
Unless you decide to get goofy with it
Was it honest or goofy?
This is like, this is pretty, I actually thought a lot about this.
He took like two hours.
I put Kobe, J.Z, and Zach Fox.
I was 0 for three.
Jesus Christ.
That's a very decent guess, though.
Mo, what did you put?
I just put two chains.
Just two chains?
Is this one, not three?
Yeah, just two chains.
That's it, bro.
I couldn't put, no, I'm not going to say this other name, but I just put two chains.
You do know, you do see us as three celebrities, right?
I couldn't think of two other celebrities, bro.
I'm not going to celebrities at all.
You said Edison Pack, Eddie Murphy, and farewell.
See, you got too deep into it.
I just went straight to your first instincts
and that I didn't go deep.
Pack was a lot for me.
What?
That is my,
Anderson Pack is my favorite artist ever.
He's coming to dinner.
Wow.
Favorite artist ever?
Wow.
You like him more than Jay Z?
Lunch with Jay Z or dinner with Anderson Peck.
Anderson Pack 100%.
okay
you put Kobe on here
I was thinking about
well
who were alive
yeah
so
moving on
yeah
anyway
so
it wasn't
it wasn't
it wasn't specified
what was
Isaac's average screen time
on TikTok this past week
per day
hold on
I
I kicked myself out of this
yeah I lost the game
oh what the hell
can you join back in
yeah I joined back in
it says waiting for hosts for some reason all right you can you can just answer the question
verbally i guess yeah i'll just answer this uh on tictock alone not counting is
yeah on ticot alone his daily average or frett's but daily what do you all think it is
nico can you let me back in it says it's okay yeah i don't know i got my answer do you want to say
your answer the same time as me down i'm gonna just say i'm gonna just say three two one one
go three hours three damn okay what three hours i said three hours what the fuck do you think i am
you don't touch grass three hours it's 56 minutes oh no i figured you'd be scrolling yeah
three hours on tic-tok a day that's insane damn just just throughout the day and then you have your
night your nightly scroll maybe your morning scroll when you're in the bathroom on the scroll like
Listen, it can add up.
Maybe if it's like TikTok, Twitter, and YouTube combined, three hours is nuts.
Yeah, maybe that's your hours.
Let me see.
I have no idea.
Probably not.
I'm going to look mine up real.
You think I'm a crown eater for real.
Mine is probably like that during like peak COVID.
It definitely came down like the past two years.
I've had individual days, I'm sure.
But on average, hell not.
All right.
So this week, so it's Wednesday for me.
This week, I got too many videos to edit for that.
TikTok.
is four hours and 45 minutes.
For over seven days?
Over 70s or since Sunday?
I don't know how many days this is.
Okay, what's the next question?
But daily average, 56 minutes.
So I guess over seven days.
Lockstep.
All right.
I think this should be.
Yeah, the last question.
This one is going to be about Mo.
Does anybody know?
besides water tea what's the most favorite thing to drink he just told us before the
stream he hates tea no mo's what's the tea guy listen mo likes you know he likes celsius
of course he likes tea favorite thing to drink it's he loves the most common he loves it's either
or kombucha and i'm gonna go with tea but it's not most common it's favorite right like the thing
you like the most yeah or is it okay all right i like a lot of meo you love flavored water is that
count or is that? I'm locking into
I'm like zero diet Coke
Moe loves those drinks from
what is it 7-11
the slurpiece
slushies? Oh yes that's hilarious no
I'm gonna say diet coke maybe you put
me oh you fucking love you some flavored water for some
that's not a bad assumption that's not a bad assumption at all
I'll say diet coke though because you're always about the
fucking macros so you spam diet coax
Wow you got to guess
I wish that was right
I would say Dom was probably right
I said hybiscis anything
with hibiscus in it for real and high this is i have my biscus tea which is like you're right
there fucking fraud yeah right before this stream yeah right before this stream you all we had a
conversation about tea and this motherfucker was like i actually hate the flavor of tea and we were
like but you drink it all the time he's like yeah but i hate it and now you're gonna tell me
it your favorites in a dream no he loves it he loves it it depends on the flavor you didn't ask
like for specifics that tea that i had that day or the last tea you just don't know you
You definitely got play.
He definitely tried to play you.
But,
yeah,
he's a T guy.
What a fraud.
I'm a T guy for sure.
I would have said T too
if you didn't just
slight the information
before the pod started.
You knew what was coming up.
You're cheating.
I do what I do.
And I still fucking lost.
Damn.
Yeah,
I wasn't keeping score
but I think Isaac was King Crayon,
guys,
for this week.
I think I'm the only one
that got a question right.
What do you mean?
We both had six points.
but did you get one right
were you answering your own question though
I got the T right
no he did have a point
I did I didn't have a single point
no he maybe Donovan actually
maybe Donovan actually let
he probably has eight because there was
two points that didn't count
because he got logged out
so Donham actually won
Don Juan yeah he got T ride
he clutched up at the end
yeah yeah
King crayon
love it dummy
And this is the end of producer corner
On to TikTok time
I like this. We have to run this back
Welcome to TikTok time
Once again, we are starting with the draft
A special draft that's hopefully going to be the new norm
If you guys like it
The one where we have $15 budget
And we have this graphic scene on screen
To pick our players from
But before we get to that
I'm gonna go ahead and do what we did the top of the show
Because I know a lot of you guys
Jump straight to TikTok time
and those you who do that
are what we like to call crown eaters
so if you didn't watch the beginning of the episode
we have something for you
crown eater merch
you see I got it on right here
got the crew neck
we got some t-shirts
we got the hoodie that Moe is wearing
which is the t-shirt version of this
all kinds of things for you guys
yeah fresh pack right there
we got the pizza shirt
we got the fresh pack hoodie
we got this we got some hats
all kinds of stuff that I'm gonna show on screen right now
plug it real quick for those
that are just tech time watchers
can't say that we have
We don't have this shit on right now, man.
For a long time, Ukraine need just ask for this.
So here we go.
We got it for you.
Let's jump straight to this draft.
This time we're doing a draft of only players under 25 years old.
We've done several young player drafts in the past.
This time with a budget.
Should be fun.
Let's get into it, man.
So the draft order, is this the same draft order as last time?
This is the same as last time.
Okay, so the draft order this time is me first, most second, Donovan third.
That's how we're doing it.
Yeah, man.
Last time we found that there is a lot of strategy involved in this budget draft.
It was more difficult than we thought.
For show, for show.
Yeah, man.
Not only were you all forcing me to go ahead and do some math, but you guys wanted me to pick my struggle,
and I was forced to pick James Wiseman in a draft.
Never thought I would say his name in a draft, but here we are.
Listen, man, you're going to have to pick some struggles this time, too.
This is not going to be a fun draft full.
I'll say that.
The bottom is a little bit rough.
Yeah.
But real simple, you guys know how this works by now.
first pick give me noz ree for three dollars
solid
gonna put noz read at center
nausee for three dollars is great
okay you need that stretch big right away
I guess it just leaves me
with a victor and vinyama for five dollars
I need it I need it I need it can't let him get to don't
get to don't his hands
yeah you know daffin would have picked them too
back to back pick
listen
I actually wouldn't have
because I got exactly
who I wanted in my, in my draft for four dollars.
Give me Chet Holmgren.
Okay.
I was hoping you fell to me.
I was in a pair of the two bigs.
And then for also $4,
give me Tyrese Halliburton.
Okay.
Okay.
Get the skin and bones combo, one two punch.
Okay, I like that.
I don't like it.
For $3, fuck, fuck.
Actually, yeah, for $3, go ahead and give me J-Dug.
Fuck, no.
You know that's his-
Night my pick.
Dang it.
Okay.
Ah, that really messed me up.
Okay, for $3, give me K. Cunningham.
Solid.
Good pick.
And then, how do I want to do this?
Dang, dang, dang.
No, I'm going to put Nasreda at Power Forward.
and for $2, give me Jackson Davis.
Okay.
Great pick if you ask me.
Yeah.
How do you get someone cheap in there?
Got T.J.D. at my center.
I like it.
I like it.
Okay.
So I got decisions to make.
So far, I got J. Dobb and I got Wemby.
And I spent $8 so far.
Things have been a little bit pricey.
A little bit pricey.
J.O.
a nice is a nice combo to start with yeah like no real weakness just just yet at all hmm so i
think if i can afford a weakness anywhere go ahead and go ahead and give me jordan pool for two
dollars at my point guard oh stretch out the floor the decisions are meh but let me solidify
him over there at my two am i one i don't like it
Yeah, I don't really like it either
because that kind of throws off
what I was trying to do, you know?
It's not really great.
It's not really great.
But here's what we're going to do, though.
Yeah, yeah.
Here's what I think we're going to do.
For $2, give me Asar Thompson.
Damn it, man.
I was baking on that.
And we're going to put Asar at our three
and so that's going to that gives me $10, $5 to spend.
And that is because with my $3, do I want to do this?
No you don't.
No you don't.
I actually don't think I want to.
But I kind of just want to mess with you guys at this point because I realized that my team is not going to be as good as it's going to be.
So for $3, yeah, give me Herb Jones.
Oh my God, I knew it was coming.
You just come and causing me, man.
Fuck.
These drafts get so difficult.
Yeah, he knew what he was doing.
He already lost.
He saw the writing on the wall.
He's like, how can I best disrupt these two guys?
100%.
100%.
Damn.
Listen, Tyreseur Tirees Halliburton, you're going to have to score 35 points a game.
Spacing is nasty.
But you won't have to guard anybody.
Because we'll have heard Jones and Asar Thompson.
It's okay.
Well, you got Jordan Pool.
Your backward defense is going to be horrible.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Not just yet.
Not just yet.
Not just yet.
Okay.
Damn.
So all the $3 guys are taking.
Kate is gone.
J. Dobs gone.
Herb is obviously gone and Nazare is gone.
Fuck.
Okay.
So I guess that leads me.
Yeah.
So for, you ain't,
I ain't go lie.
I'm going for $4 in this bitch
and I could either pick
Paulo or Scotty Barnes
to share my depth.
Please, please, please don't pick mine.
Please don't pick mine.
I think I'm going to go ahead
and select
give me Paulo Bencaro.
I need a size on my team.
I love that size.
I need that playmaking
because Jordan Poole's Jordan Poole for sure.
Give me Pollo.
Okay.
I'm going to,
oh, okay, how do I want to re?
I'm going to,
Paul out my forcing situation.
Perfect.
I have Knowsbred and T.J.D.
Okay, so first of all, I'm going to get Cam Thomas for $2.
Steel.
Okay.
The shooting.
Can't do shit, but shoot.
Put Kate at point guard.
Kate is my point guard, not my shooting guard.
Oh, so he going to do it?
And then Cam's at the two.
Who, I guess I got, you know what?
I'll take the best player on this board.
Give me Anthony Edwards to $5 at my small forward.
Kind of roster?
Kind of roster.
Interesting.
Okay.
Yeah, I got shooting.
I got slashing.
Nice.
The best version of your team will be really good.
But there's another version where they just end up like the Cleveland Cavaliers and we're like, I don't really like it.
There's a world where Cam Tom was like, this is my team.
And he takes over.
Exactly.
Damn.
All right.
So I have, I spent $14 and I literally only have $1 left.
Kai Jones, Jackson Hayes, Poku.
Pooh, pooh
Who I can
Go ahead and give me
The other Frenchmen
That we no longer talk about
Bring him back to the league
Kellian Hayes
You are my starting two guard
I don't need you to shoot
I don't you need you to pass for real
Just play defense in your straight
And thankfully he's good on that
You need to get to stop
You are successfully assembled
The worst back court I've ever seen in my life
I applaud you for making Wembe
somehow have a worse backcourt
than he has in real life
I'm sorry, but I got J-dub, Palo, and Wembe.
I got, hey, man, my front court is fucking packing.
What can I say?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, you know.
All right, so with my pick, right?
So I have $2 left.
I'm just going to stop.
Listen, my team is already weird, so just give me the weirdest player on the board.
Give me Poku at my four.
Wow.
Is you hear of the Guy Jones?
That's, listen, that's more strange.
more than weird
yeah
I like it
you've all successfully
assemble
listen poco and chat
that's like
the Pokemon evolution
what goes into the other
yeah
yeah for real
wow
that's great
man okay
so I guess I win
but it's not
you definitely do not
your team is frail as shit
holy hell
oh you know the words backward
of all times
I don't want to hear shit from you
I have
Jordan Poole can get me
some form of
but did you watch him
his last 20 games of the year
No, you didn't, because I don't blame you who watches with this game.
And Kelly Hayes can play defense and pass.
The only two legitimate scoring options that you have, at least if I play my team, locked up.
Herbert Assad, locking up, J. Doug and Palo.
Wemby unlocks all that shit.
It don't matter what T.J.D. do because Wemby's staring right at him.
Actually, not even at him. He's staring over him.
He's going to do what I got it to him. Give him 45.
I got Kay Cunningham.
Cam Thomas, Anthony Edwards,
Nas Reid, and Trey Jackson Davis.
All of our backcourts are ass.
I got Jordan Poole, Kellyanne Hayes.
Who's all you?
I got Kate Cunningham.
I got Jay Doug, Paulo Bencaro, and I got Wemby.
I got the best.
My backcourt is elite.
Okay, I have the best four and five.
No, no, no, no.
You have Katie Cam.
If you put Cam Thomas at your three, come on now.
You have Cade of Cunningham's guard in a small four is he regardless.
All right, Donovan's team makes a little bit of sense.
He has two spacing bigs, theoretically.
Asaar can be in the dunker spot.
The idea, the idea of my team, especially if Herb is, if Herb is knocking them down,
we can get somewhere, right?
We need Herb, we need Herb to take the same leap that Mikhail Bridges took, right?
It's a lot of faith that we're putting into them.
But on my team, in my coaching staff, we can make it happen.
If Poku was like a real NBA player, like you could be like half of prime Dervas Bertons,
then you'd be cooking.
Like, if Poku was a player and not an abstract idea, not a concept, then you'd be cooking.
Would you want me to take Jackson Davis?
I mean, Jackson, A's?
No, I mean, I, listen, I didn't say you made the wrong choice.
There's a lot of bad choices available to you.
I made the best of what I could do.
Yeah, I guess, no, I'll see your team on your team.
I see the vision of your team.
Your team isn't bad.
If we get past the Asar Poku issue.
Again, one more Pokemon.
on evolution and we're cooking
with this team. No. It goes
Poku, Chad Holmgren, Bill Walton.
It just goes up and down. Thanks.
Okay, that was good. That's the draft. I like
it. I like you. I love these
nobody ever has great teas
with these budget drafts.
Speak for yourself. My team is always
straight. Your team sucks.
My team is better than yours. Your team
sucks more.
No, my team, I think my two smoke shares.
Jordan Paul and Killing-A suck.
Dude, it does, you're focusing on the tattoo.
I have the best three players on each team.
It's not even close.
You have the only one that has two shitters.
Well, yeah, yeah, you're the only one that has two shitters.
I have three.
Your top three can't beat my top three.
That's all that matters.
The numbers I weigh.
I have the best player here.
I have Anthony Edwards.
Okay, but I have the best three versus year one who trumps mine.
You're getting ran.
Cade's almost as good as J. Do.
Get out of here.
No, he's not.
You don't believe that.
he's almost as good as jade of i didn't say he's as good he's almost as good as the thought of him
should be but you're getting ran off the court yeah you're not getting past the killing his jordan
pool hole you dug yourself into i'm sorry but the a these two players combined sick ill as fuck
okay next thing we're gonna do listen a few weeks ago donovan ranked his top 10 jerseys in the league
his favorite 10 thanks today he's gonna rank his top 10 worst jerseys in the league he's gonna let the
Hater energy flow.
Let's get into it, y'all.
Worst jerseys, okay.
Let me see this list.
I'm very curious which directions you're going to go.
I don't even know.
I don't even know what jersey do you hate like that.
Is this current just this year?
Yeah, just this year.
Okay.
And I've no idea.
Okay.
Listen, these are the top 10 worst jerseys in the NBA right now.
At number 10, we have the Dallas Mavericks, Icon jersey.
I think that their white one is kind of passable.
this one get rid of it you see they have a navy blue version of this one that is so much better
that they kind of have switched to on the road anyway they switched to like the navy blue version
the black version anything to not make them wear this jersey i'm okay with this screams 2006
you need to rebrand so bad this is terrible this screams 2006 this screamed discounted the screams
five below honestly ross yeah marshal he's discounted and not not
Not too much, not too much.
Maybe having some stuff.
You ain't lying.
Yeah, this stuff.
This is what they got.
You know what else?
It screams.
It screams what's on the top of that jersey.
Chime.
It's frauds.
Again, not too much, not too much.
Number nine, we have the Los Angeles Clippers statement jersey,
aka we're trying to be Mexican jersey.
They have been rolling out evolutions of this jersey time and time again.
And every time it's a swing in a minute.
I do not like these jerseys.
I ain't going to lie.
The tragic part is.
I was going to say, the tragic part is it's also growing on me a little bit.
I fucking hated at first.
Guys, that's a really bad on paper.
It looks bad here.
Like it's bad on paper.
But on court, it typically looks pretty good.
It's hard to not be good when your jersey's black.
Yeah, it kind of looks raw when you see, when you see Kauai Leonard go ahead and hit
whatever player on the court, whether it has a side step pull up to or whatever it is or
whatever it or whatever the case might be.
I ain't go like to.
court it looks amazing we were supposed to be pandering we were supposed to be pandering it's kind of corny
but if i just don't pretend i don't know that i pretend it's not trying to be los santo's customs
it looks all right exactly but then if you if you are in reality and you know that it's trying
to be los santo's customs then you're like all right what are we doing here so but anyways i know
it's the domteretto of jersey they're trying to be fast and furious culture but i'm disappointed
in you guys anyways next one bad my bad listen you
You know I hate gradient.
And a side-to-side gradient is nasty work.
Sacramento, I like the work that you guys have done on your new jerseys.
This one needs to be replaced.
This is fucking stupid.
Thank you.
It's just dumb.
We're locked in once again.
I ain't all right.
I hate grading as well.
Mo.
I disagree.
I disagree.
We know Mo is a simp for the color purple.
Your opinion, you see purple plus 10 points.
It's not even about that.
could exchange the colors instead of black and purple. It could be like orange in black.
I just realized I lied to myself. You're liar. You just like purple. Purple saves the day.
Be true to you. Be true to you. I respect it. Nice jersey. These Cleveland Cavalier jerseys.
You hate her. I love these suck. These are practiced jerseys, right? Now, the white one's
kind of cool because you have the little basket logo with the V. That's fine.
These are so boring.
They're so boring.
And I just can't rock with them.
Yeah, these guys don't even have an advertisement on them.
They like soccer jerseys.
They look like something, some of that Mbapé will be fucking wearing, to be honest.
I like it, though.
I like them.
I like them.
Sometimes simplicity works.
It looks good on court.
It looks good on body.
The blocking is works.
I think it's fine.
No.
No.
It's good.
It's good colors.
The wine color looks good.
I am pro cash jerseys.
It's nice.
It's simple.
It perfectly describes the city of.
Cleveland just there I thought we were like one in Cleveland anyways next one next jersey
listen listen this what number is this this is number six oh that's way too high you have five
jerseys worse than this this shit is atrocious I promise you there's worse right now
this dungeons in dragon's jersey it is very bad right that's actually all I have to say about
It's just very bad
So I have
I needed to kick off my top five
So this Stratigo cover
Ugh
House of Dragons jersey
Yeah
I don't know what it is
It's just not a good jersey
I don't know why
This even relates to D.C.
I mean I'm in the street
To D.C. every day, bro
Like I haven't seen one dragon yet
I haven't seen anything
Gothic about like I haven't seen anything
bro. It makes no sense to me
whatsoever.
You haven't seen a knight?
No.
If you wear this jersey
you are vehement against haircuts.
That's one thing I will say for sure.
Makes no sense.
Everything about this jersey pisses me off.
What is up with this like dotted gradient on the collar inside?
It's so fucking dumb.
Listen, it's the wizards being the wizards.
They had the chance to be on the same level of bad as the Los Angeles Clippers with the jersey that we saw a couple minutes ago.
But they just completely take away.
What is this random ass red stripe that I see across the 33?
I don't know
And it cuts into the number as well
Yeah
They didn't
They had no idea what they were doing
No fundamental
That must be an error
Design is not their passion
That has to be an error
Like that can't be real
But at the same time
Listen
The perfect jersey for the Jordan Pool era
So
I have to give them props for that
So this is number five on my list
Number four on my list
It's the heat culture jersey
This one
This is by far
the corneous jersey we've ever seen in NBA history
because not only does it come with the jersey
it comes with the court
this four minor court
that says we are stronger and tougher
and more resilient and we just want it more
all of it
is positive affirmations
stop it stop there's so many letters on this jersey
and they're placed so stupidly
why is culture massive why is heat centered and tiny
why is it 22 so to the side and up high
it's all just jumbled and shitty
and nothing is going well for it.
The real issue is that.
He culture is cool if we're talking about it on Twitter or something.
The moment you lean into it, it's over.
It's corny.
Yeah.
The bigger issue is like there's no consistency in the font as well.
Like everything is completely different from the other.
You got the big old white heat logo on the shorts.
Why is that there?
It's just doing so much while also doing nothing.
Exactly.
No unity whatsoever.
All right.
Like, what's the, what's the redeeming quality of this jersey?
I can't even say it's cool because it's black.
It's not even cool.
I mean, right in black school together, that's it.
It's a bad jersey.
Man.
There's a clearance of jersey for sure.
All right.
So this is actually kicking off the top five.
Now we're going to go to number four.
This next jersey.
I understand that I'm going to get a lot of hate.
I know some people have really, have really grown to like these jerseys.
The teenagers love it.
I understand.
And guess what?
When you grow up and you've seen some stuff and you become wiser, you will understand that this, too, is a bad jersey.
This is, this is a blues clothes jersey.
This is, this should not be the jersey for a professional team.
However, I don't, I don't care.
I do not care.
Once again, I'm on done.
Confession hour.
This shit has grown on me and I see the vision.
Fuck.
Are we crayon eaters to or what?
I can't stay.
I don't know.
no better than a habit 15 year old i think it looks cool i'm not going to lie it looks interesting
it looks interesting i like i like the i like how the busy but it's cool though it's swaggy
it's flowy would you the colors are too loud yeah what i was a net's fan i wouldn't mean if it's not
awful the color okay if you're one of like the 20 people in the world right who have to support this
team then like yeah you can wear the jersey but like if you're a regular person
No, you're not wearing this.
It's a swing and a hit, I think.
It's something.
I want city journeys to do something unique.
Sometimes it's going to miss.
Sometimes it's going to hit, and I think this one is a hit.
Now, it's not a home run.
It's a foul ball.
It's a single to first base.
It's, you know, keeping the chains moving.
But it's, it works.
It's a foul ball.
You may contact, but I don't think you landed in the field of play.
So, call this blues clues.
I'm the number one fan of blues clues.
I'll die with it.
All right.
All right.
I can't stand you.
Next one.
The Utah Jazz.
This wouldn't be a bad jersey list if we weren't getting hate off on the Utah Jazz,
especially because these jerseys are going to go away in about a year or so.
So this actually is a tandem because the next one that we are going to is also a Utah Jazz jersey.
Both of these, the entire brand is awful.
This is just offensive.
This looks like a Nike campaign for a team that doesn't really exist.
This is so atrocious.
They tried to do what the Cleveland Cavs did.
They try to be all simplistic.
But then they were like, we're going to be simple and then bright and just blind you with our
highlighter.
Come on.
You are not, you're not Oregon.
There's one team that can pull off neon and highlighter.
And that's the Oregon Dugs.
And if you are not them, stay away.
Facts.
You were not Chip Kelly.
If you were not Marcus Miroin in 2015, you are not them.
You are not the Anthony Thomas.
I'm about to say that.
He said Marcus Marriota, you just took me back to some times.
Exactly.
They don't know about the Anthony Thomas.
This jersey, if you have.
it in your closet automatic negative 2,000 aura you mean have a chance to even put that you don't
even have a chance to put that shit on with that shit in your closet bro this gives me like
hall monitor vibes snitch just negative bad for your oral in general if you have the jersey
i don't think you know what to read damn all right so that was that was that was that was three and two
now all of these jerseys are like actually are actually bad however
There's one jersey in the league that actually makes me upset every time I see it.
And that is the number one jersey on this list.
And that is the Denver Luggets, 5280.
Double numbers is crazy.
Double numbers is wild.
It's stupid.
It's dumb as shit.
Why are we doing this?
Why are you putting numbers here and numbers there?
It's too much.
It's too much going on.
This might be just like in a thought exercise might be the stupidest jersey we've ever seen.
Literally, it's just a bad idea from the jump.
Execution is irrelevant because the idea is ridiculous.
This bitch looks like the dashboard on a fucked up car.
It's just too much going on, bro.
All the time's yellow, red, blue.
God damn, what's going on, bro?
Can I just live my life without you going down my faith?
Damn.
Exactly.
This is the one time that I'm happy.
It's just bad.
This is the one time that I'm happy that we get new city jerseys every year.
So I don't have to see this next season.
This is the reason why they disrespected this year.
I'm glad they didn't go back to back
because that would have been
etched in history forever
and that would have been a shame
to NBA history.
If they won the title
in these jerseys
oh my gosh
my heart heard
just thinking about it.
Yeah, no.
The Starfighters are on fire
by letting Rudy Gober
get them out of the playoffs
so I don't have to see
this jersey again.
I love it.
Exactly.
I'd rather see Rudy Gober
post fade in this jersey advance.
Exactly.
But yeah, so that's my top 10
worst jerseys in the league.
And you know what those are
some awful ass jerseys
besides a couple
that I kind of grew
to like, but I see the vision.
This isn't a bad list.
Yeah.
This list is all right.
Could have been better.
Yeah, that's all right.
They're going to call you Unk and it's going to be hilarious.
Yeah.
I don't care.
Never let Unk rank again.
If we're still here, comment, never let Unc great again.
That's hilarious, right.
I got to tell you, because we had an unc off like two streams ago.
I have to give you guys a quick update.
I was on the grill this weekend before game two.
Listen, everything went great.
Wait, I was out there.
I had a diet cook.
I had made some chicken and some, some, some, some steak kebabs.
Bro, vibes were immaculate.
It was awesome.
Were you bumping a speaker, too?
Of course.
Of course.
All right.
All right.
Do you wear the toes out?
No.
I crox on.
You haven't met your phone status yet.
I crox on.
Okay.
Okay.
Exactly.
What's the next time when I, Isaac?
Next thing we're going to do.
I'm going to name two NBA players
And I want you to tell me which one you think
We'll have a better career
Talk to it.
Now who's better right now
Now who's been better thus far in the career
Who will have the better career
When it's all said and done?
Straight projecting
This is what we do.
Big picture.
Big picture.
First off,
Victor Wimonyama or Luca Dantzich
You know how I feel.
Victor Womenyama is the future goat.
This guy is going to be
the greatest basketball player
that we've ever seen
Oh my God
I'm telling you right now
He is people were making jokes
People were making jokes on Twitter about it
Before he got drafted
I'm taking that to heart
He is the war
To save us from Jordan LeBron
Conversations for the rest of our lives
Because everyone's gonna look at him
And be like nah
He's the one
He's the future
He's making it shine
Oh my God
He ain't missed a spot too
Good God you're when you have those
You have those popsicles
And you just do the tip
And it gets clear icy
That's what he's
doing he's a pro
he's been doing it for months
damn now I know you guys
are not going to sit there and tell me
that what I saw with my eyes this past
season was wrong was not
goat trajectory stuff
no I agree I think Vic is probably
going to be one of those ones but so is Luca
Luca's also on top 25 of all time trajectory
and listen he's had the benefit of
having five years of getting ahead of
Wemagnama but I don't have a problem
but all of you picking him Vic he about to get swept
in the finals we don't care about that
all right we can go with wemby i mean
there's not much to be said right here because they're both
on two different project
they're two different trajectories right now because
one's 25 one just turned 20 or whatever
i go wemby though team has upside you listen
wemby might be one of the best two-way players of all time
like he might be in a different stratosphere because of the defense so i'm not
mad at the pick i agree
next one zion williamson versus chet homgren
I think I want to go Chet
just because as great as I think Zion is going to be
because I still think that he has like another level to reach to
Chet just was so good in his rookie year
that I'm like if he can stay healthy
unlike Zion he'll be better than him
yeah I can if health wasn't a factor
I would go Zion and I wouldn't think twice about it
But the health is a factor.
And I feel like we know what Chet's going to be.
He's going to be one of the most productive, helpful players to building a team for a long time.
He looks to be set up well to win for a long time with another superstar.
It feels like he's a pretty safe bet.
I think that's the real determining factor.
We do talk about health.
We can talk about health between the two, but we can't sit here and act like Chet just didn't miss his entirety of his rookie year.
But at the same time, too, I miss a hell of a lot more time.
But natural because he's been in the league a little bit longer.
But I do like the way that Chet is set up in okay.
O'CCC has hella pics, picks on picks on picks, already have a superstar in Cheagos
Alexander and then J-dub's right there waiting to blossom and bloom.
Chet, when it's all said and done, might have the better career.
Yeah, listen, Zong gets her a lot because his ligaments can't contain themselves.
Chezsche missed a season because he had 300 pounds of LeBron James stomping on his foot in a wreck
game.
I don't think it's going to happen every year.
You never know, man.
LeBron, he's playing again this season two.
You know that, right?
LeBron is looming.
He's a constant threat to step on his foot.
The Chet killer.
You see Leruns.
Get serious, man.
Facts.
All right.
Next one.
Palo Bancaro versus Tyrese Halliburton.
Hmm.
This is interesting.
I would say Indiana off the bat is set up better.
Thus, like Tyrese naturally set up better throughout his career because Orlando probably doesn't have two, two players who can make three threes in a row.
But me personally, I think Paulo's ceiling is higher.
so I'm only in Paolo.
I was going to say, is this difficult?
I feel like Palo stealing is way higher.
I feel very safe betting that he has a legitimate
all-MBA career for a long time.
Yeah, I'm gonna go Palo as well.
I just think like,
even though that Tyrese has kind of like the build
and the potential to maybe be an average defender,
Palo, like legitimately has the size
to be impactful on both ends.
And so going forward and also just being like the primary score,
you're, listen, you're going to get a boost.
just because you're the number one option on offense so I'm gonna have the size and skill to be a
legitimate big wing that can be a first option on a team Tyrese is great he'll be all NBA for a while
I don't think his archetype has the same type of ceiling yeah exactly there's only so far that
you can go with being a past first type player which he's shown consistently through the season
and with Paulo soon we can do a better job of balance in both while also being a legit
unstoppable force which Tyrese is clearly not
Paul is yeah it's no criticism Tyrese palo just has that high of a ceiling exactly next up
La Mello ball arcade Cunningham damn I mean if we could free Kade then I would take Kay Cunningham
but he no La Mello Bill and All Star what are you talking about Kee Cunningham has been in
basketball hell for his entire career yeah well he hasn't exactly been the savior either
what do you I don't know I like both these guys a lot
what do you what do you want to
I don't know how to blame it all
I think lamello ball has insane ceiling
if he can ever stay healthy
will those ankles ever hold up for 50 games in a row
I don't know it's
I'll leave lamello but I don't feel good about it
I'll feel good about it for you
I'm definitely lean Lamello because I seen
multiple I seen a true avenue
where he could be all NBA on a consistent basis.
But, well, I do say that.
It doesn't matter what Kate Cunningham does on the court
because you just can't see all NBA anything
when you're in a Detroit Piston.
LeMello is 6'7 an elite passer and elite shooter
who started to show he can get to the rim well.
That is a list of traits only shared by him
and Luca Donchitz right now.
He has a crazy ceiling as an on-ball creator.
Will he hit it? I don't even know.
Again.
Free Cade.
Free Cade.
No, Cates will be great, too.
I think Cade should be in for a big year next year.
Free Cates and it backwards.
Trey Young versus Deeran Fox.
I like everything that Deeran Fox has done in his career.
I like the growth that he has shown.
I'm still taking Trey Young.
Trey Young's going down in NBA history when it comes to just like.
No, he quite literally is.
Look at the assist.
What do you mean?
What record is Dearen Fox breaking?
He's not putting up 25 and 12 on a consistent basis like Trey Young is.
Now, neither of these guys are.
You call me a pro.
You are teaching people how to do it.
You're a professor.
You're reaching around and doing something special with it.
Did I lie one big yet?
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Did I lie, though?
No, I didn't.
Yes.
What the fuck do you mean?
He's going down in history.
He's literally going down in history.
He is quite.
Bro, he is quite literally one of the best deep shooters that we've seen in his three ball also distributing the ball.
Darren Fawkes is near that.
What is historical about?
You're saying breaking records.
What are you talking about?
Points and assists.
What do you mean?
That's what I'm talking about?
What do you mean?
What a point of assist record does he happen?
Would you still feel this way about him after he leaves you?
Tryon can never do no wrong in my eyes.
What do you mean?
I think it's also
Tray Young, but you're making me
really want to pick Deerrin Fox.
No.
You keep on talking about what records.
Simple as this.
Points and assist.
Getting a bucket and also getting
an assist.
Same things that James Hardin does.
Same things that LeBron has done in the past
and Luke is not just currently doing too.
Trey Young is under that same umbrella.
All right.
Congratulations.
He's a prize picks Hall of Famer.
Like then.
Hall of Fame Gawker.
This is crazy.
Hey, man.
Sorry to Aaron Fox.
Next one we got.
Scotty Barnes or Tyrese Maxy.
I like Tyrese Maxie more, so I'm going with him.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Tyrese, Tyrese Maxie took a leap scoring wise this season and got to the point where I legitimately
think that he can be a very impactful two on a, like, championship level team.
And I think that he still has ways to grow.
And Arias, I just don't think that Scotty is ever going to be impactful in that way.
And so, yeah, this is a scoring bias, but I'm going to take Tyrese on that.
I think Scottie Barnes has so many more levels to get to.
I think we're just scratching the surface how good he can be.
I think with that type of frame, passing ability,
misspoke for a second, that type of frame, passing ability, defensive ability.
The ceiling that gives you with that size, I think, is next level.
I can agree to that for sure.
but I might lean towards Tyries Maxie because what if Scotty Barnes is just like
miscasted and like misplaced what if he's just like a slightly more talented
Aaron Gordon I have no reason to believe that he's an all-star I mean Aaron Gordon was
pretty good too he wasn't an all-star good but he was pretty good too as you know exactly
he wasn't no not really no Aaron Gordon was he was good and half as good as Scottie
Barnes was this year wow you're basically calling Aaron we're in a bum at that point
as a first option
of course he's a bum
as the first option
there's a reason
he got traded
to where he got traded
to where he got traded
to look this up
shout out Aaron Gordon
fantastic role player
Scotty Barnes
is not in those conversations
listen you respect
Aaron Gordon
because he was
23rd
and most improved
player voting
in 2017
2018
23rd
damn I didn't even know
you don't disrespect
that man
you don't disrespect that man
you don't disrespect
you got like
one or two votes
I don't know
on basketball reference
it just says
awards
MRP dash 23
so yeah
I was a player, I would not want that written down on my resume at all.
Like, that would, what are we doing at that point?
That means he got one third place vote by some random magic voter.
Two points one.
That's, uh, from, I'm leaning Tyrese.
That year, though, he was going kind of crazy.
17 and 8.
Whatever.
Next one.
John Morant or, John Morant or Devon Booker.
It's pretty easily John Morant.
easily yeah he's younger team is all around set up better more picks i know debon book is great
devon book is great for sure but when it's all said and done well devon bucker will have all
the all the history by his side too because he's been getting buckets on buckets on buckets forever
it seems like and jall literally just miss an entire year i can go with john morrant he has a great
team that's a succeed for a while he's a game-breaking player that can be your first option great for
others. But I don't know, Devin Booker's great and he's in a low right now because he has
his stupid-ass team at the Matschbio created. But eventually he's going to get free from that and he's
going to make some damage to happen again. Sadly, eventually he's not now. And that's why Tom Morant
is the best is going to have the better career. I'll go with Jai. Yeah, I think, I think I'll go
with Jha. Just because the ceiling of Jha at his best, like we've, we've seen it. And we've seen
that like whenever he's on that team instantly, they start, they start winning.
Um, so I'm, I'm gonna go with John Moran.
One of the few players that's extremely
hype because of highlight watchers, but it also matches the productivity.
100%.
I miss John Moran, man.
Next up, Donovan Mitchell or Damian Lillard.
Well, I mean, listen, this one really just comes down to who's going to grow a bigger beard.
And like if Donald and Mitchell can get his size to, to connect like Damien Lillard's
and maybe get a little bit more hair,
he can accomplish the same things that Damon Lillard did.
So I'm going to go with D. Mitch.
Wow.
It's easy to slander Damien Lillard come off the year he's coming off of.
But he's had a great career for a long time.
He really high, he really has.
He really has.
It's probably, it's probably Dame because I don't think that D. Mitch is ever going to go down in history as like a top three, whatever.
Whereas like, D.M., you can legitimately look at him.
And where he shoots from, how he shoots, and like the shot diet that he gets and say, like, this might be a top, like, five shooter of all time.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's all going to change when Donovan Mitchell ends up a Laker next year and they win a title with that new big three.
I think that'll really change the trajectory of this.
So looking to the future, we can go Donovan Mitchell.
Lake your legend.
No.
Man, you are something else right now.
Holy shit.
You're daged like a mug.
Don't talk about me with what we said earlier.
you were down bad for Dan Hurley so I don't blame you right now
down bad I don't know if I was down bad for Dan Hurley
your leg is man you immediately get that on and everything
I was going to help make the extra $30 million needed to get them
yeah what was the what so far in you guys's opinion what is like the shining
moment of Donovan Mitchell's career is it like his rookie year against like
Oklahoma City Thunder when he embarrassed was in the playoffs or is it the bubble
it's probably the bubble
I think it's the bubble
this you are a great run too
yeah he was really good to the player
he average 31 against the Celtics defense
he went crazy
yeah that's that's true
a shining moments
as a moment probably the bubble
but this is the best version of him
he's still getting better
yeah
I think that bubble
that bubble arena
he couldn't miss
no fans in the arena
I mean no one could
TJ Warren was fucking putting up
27 it was crazy
or 21 whatever you had you had to be
there t j warren man yeah definition that you had to be there t j warren last one shay gildes
alexander or anthony edwards whew listen carefully bull's gonna have great careers
a whole lot of oar in one screen there's a lot going on right now damn i don't know which
one to pick because shee obviously has a team perfectly set up and anthony edwards has seen
so much success already as a 22, 23-0
made it to the Western Conference Finals.
I might lean towards Shea
because he was second or third
in MVP loading
and Anthony Edwards is just not there yet
from what we can see.
But this is a better career.
This is projecting.
I think Ant has a lot of improvement left still.
Right now, Shea's better,
but I can see a world
where Ant peaks with a higher ceiling.
They both have the skill sets
to win at the highest level.
It's just who gets it done.
But I think when they're primes,
I think Aunt would be the better player,
so I'll go with him.
As an individual, I guess so, because the three-point shooting and the athleticism is the difference.
He definitely has the potential.
She's 35 and 5 right now and already a good defender.
So I think I'm going to go Shea.
Yeah, you can't go wrong.
It's going to be close.
Especially because Shea's game might age a little bit better just because it's not as based on athleticism as ants.
Yeah, but his Adidas commercials are way better than Shea skim's commercials.
is and when is he going to be calling out cam and mace those are your guys donovan why they
my guys you know why they're your guys all right bro makes what's the implication here
i don't know you like their podcast what do you mean simple as that do we have to start
beef with cam and mace no god no hell no hell no
next thing
we're gonna play 20 questions
but we're gonna play 10 questions
yeah that's wild
we're gonna play this
you know T3 staple 20 questions
where I think of an NBA player
and you guys have 20 questions to guess who it is
we're gonna make it more difficult today
you have 10 questions
I think of the player I'm thinking of
oh my god
yeah I'll better get in your bag
I need to hear smart quick answers
you only gotta be effective
all right
Let's do it.
Ten questions.
How difficult do I want to make this for you?
Oh my gosh.
He's going to play around.
It's going to be stupid.
No, I'm trying to find a good balance here.
Okay.
I got my player.
You've got ten questions to get the NBA player I'm thinking of.
Okay.
Has this player ever been an All-Star?
He is not.
Okay.
Donovan, should I ask if this is current or not?
Hopefully he would go current.
I think he's going to go current, so I don't think I need to ask this question.
Okay, so he hasn't been an all-star.
Does this player play in the Eastern Conference?
He does.
Okay.
Hasn't been an all-star.
He plays in the East.
Was this player ever a, I see not.
Was this player ever a champion?
He was.
Ooh, he wanted to.
championship okay now we have to now we have to we have to like east we have to yeah we have to
figure out what the time period is that they won the championship in it could either be
2019 tarno rafters or 2021 the Milwaukee bucks um and then the those cows years does you play
eastern carpents now oh gotcha that doesn't don't you a bone here that is a little relevance
okay okay but again but again never never been an all-star though okay interesting
so he's so that's what that's what that's what I'm saying we have to we have to narrow
down what year the championship came in oh gotcha okay yeah ask that question I think
I know who this is what's the what's the what's the time range do you want to go do you
want to go in the last 10 years last 10 years for sure yeah okay sure did this player
win a championship in the last 10 years.
Yes, he did.
Okay.
I know you got a guess.
Who did you guess?
Why the hell did you pick Bruce Brown?
What?
Is it not Bruce Brown?
No, it's not Bruce Brown.
Fuck.
Damn.
That was so confident.
You were so confident you shifted the format of the question to imply a certainty.
Get out of here.
Okay.
Too much dip on your chip.
All right.
Does the team?
that this player plays on right now, did they make the playoffs?
Not including the play in.
Did they make one through eight playoffs this year?
Fuck no.
Ooh.
All right, cool.
Oh, wait.
Please.
Oh.
I have another shot in the dark.
Go.
But let me ask this singular question.
Is this player a guard?
No.
Hmm
Interesting
You got three questions left
You better now waste them
I know we really have two
Because we have a final guess
Yeah
So
This is gonna be awful
He's not a guard
And his team did not make the playoffs
I know we only have
Teams that did not make the playoffs
Were the Detroit Pistons
The Hornets
You should be able to get here
You should be able to get there
The fucking Hawks
The net
Pistons, Hornets, Hawks, Nets, Chicago, the Bulls.
Yeah.
Who else did not make the playoffs?
I need to see a bracket.
The Wizards.
I'm getting on.
Oh, hold on.
The Wizards.
The Wizards.
You hold a champion.
Wait, but no, no, no.
Wait, don't go there.
Don't go there.
I'm not going to shoot.
Because it's not a guard.
I know it's not a guard.
I know where you were about to go.
You were about to go with Jordan Pool.
Relax.
No, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I was going to go with the other light skin dude.
The girls are fighting.
The other light skin dude.
Who won a championship?
He's in the industry conference.
Should I throw his name out there?
I don't want to throw his name out there, Don't want to throw him out there,
take the shot.
I believe in you.
Carl Kuzma, this is you.
This is Kyle Kuzma.
You got out.
I'm like that.
I'm like that.
There we go.
There we go.
There we go.
I was hoping none was on a gaslight unit
and not doing it
Yeah
He said
Oh no I support my teammates
Yeah
Give me to rock
Every time
Don't you get fucking pick Jordan Blue
He's gonna press you
Hell not
And only eight questions
That was great
I just had to get the Bruce Brown
Out of my system
I lowered 10 questions
You guys still haven't failed yet
I'm hoping eventually I get you
But you guys
I gotta get hard
I gotta make it really difficult
It's gonna say
You have five questions
Yeah
I got to
of nobody. I gotta be like
I'm a big Samhouser next time
Oh, people's hoping
Next question. I'll bring back another
Another popular
Gamey thing that we haven't done in a while
Oh, he brought the eyeing out. He's serious. I got the iPad
out. I'm not doing my business. Dude, me and the
fucking crown eaters hate whenever you pull that
shit out.
We hear my homies hate your iPad. Yeah, fuck that iPad.
What we're going to do now is
I have five categories of players.
I am in a name the category
and you have to name a player
y'all at home listening play along with us
you had to name a player from that category
without saying the same name as me
and we had to see if you guys can get through
all five of them without getting tripped up
let's go let's go let's go okay
Mo has never once won this game
Donovan's won one time
I'm like oh and four
or o'n three or something like that
but today those narratives change
yes ready for Mo to make
T3 history of having
and go out on the first one
Shisdy Moes in the building
I'm coming different
You lost the first question
No I did oh shit I did
But I got my shiasty on right now
I'm feeling different
Shisdy Moes in the building
Let's work
So real simple
I got five categories
See if you can name a player
Without saying the same name as me
First category
This player has a brother that plays in the NBA
Ooh a brother who plays
Maybe make it a little less specific
Even though it doesn't matter
this player had a brother that played in the NBA at any point
okay
okay
three two one
Blake Griffin
Halliday
Seth Curry
that's nice to give me superpowers right now
you said Blake Griffin
hit a brother in NBA
yeah I forgot about that
huh
okay
category two
this player's dad played in the NBA
okay
you're for confident
yeah
three two one
Clay Kevin Love
what did you say Mo
Kevin Love
Kevin Love's dad playing the NBA
yeah let me
let me fact check that because I could be literally lying
but I'm pretty sure dad played in the NBA
Spence a capper
I got Austin Rivers
yep
wait hold on
on on on on on
Stan Love
So much faster
Former professional basketball player
I don't know if he was in the NBA
No not NBA
Shit is that a stain on my record or what
You lost
But keep playing
Let's see what I didn't know
No no no no it says NBA draft
He was picked in the NBA
He was
You know that counts
I don't even know if he played
I see him with the lake of Zerzi
He had a four-year professional career in the NBA.
There you go.
I got drafted by the bullets and played for the Lakers and the spurs.
Moe lives to fight another round.
Let's go.
Hey, this is almost the furthest you ever made.
You're tiptoeing towards history.
Sheisty Mo.
Leave me alone.
Next question.
This player had a son that played in the NBA.
Okay.
Son who played in the NBA.
Yeah, at any point.
Okay.
Three, two, one.
Michael Thompson.
Cheeky.
Fuck.
I was going to go ahead and say Carlos Boozer, but it says not in the fucking NBA.
Say a name.
Ah, fuck.
Say a name.
Okay.
Name is.
He's out.
Steph Curry's dad.
Whatever his name is.
Shit.
Say his name.
Del Curry.
I got Scotty Pippin.
Thank you.
I couldn't think of a name for some reason.
I'm still alive.
Del Curry, thank you.
You're like so hard to lose.
Joe should be out.
No, I'm not.
You're just hating.
You're going to be out before me.
You took too long.
This player has won NBA rookie of the year.
Okay.
Okay.
At any point.
Three, two, one.
LeBron James.
Palo Bancaro.
The Shicey give me powers.
What did I say?
DeVitts Carter actually won't rookie of the year?
No, I think he might have been off.
Oh, you might have lost.
Mok is saying if Mose is in.
No, he won't.
Oh, no, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
You're trying to lose, man.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
You're snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.
Y'all are both in the finals.
I applaud you.
We'll see if you can finish it out.
Thank you.
This player has averaged a triple double for an entire season.
Dang it
Just like
Okay
Two
There's two people
Yeah
This is gun to the head right now
Brough
This sucks
Gun to the head
flipping a coin
Yeah
I feel like I'm in the dark night
Two
One
Westbrook
Fuck it
It's Big O
Moe
Moe is not of a lois
It's schicey
balls in the building
This thing will have to stay
And you picked the wrong one
There's not even an option for all three of us
You see how stupid that is right
Two faces when I want to play a game
Flip the coin you lost
Too bad get better
Weep try again next week
Skill issue
Mo you officially made history
How you feeling
Crowd eaters
This is for you
This is like literally three four weeks
In the fucking making man
I had to get in the gym
Putting in relentless hours
with me, myself, and I in the mirror.
You know what makes me happy about this?
I know Donovan is very mad about losing this.
He hates losing.
This makes me so much joy.
I get used to it.
I know the fashion of which he was set up to lose.
I know it pisses them off.
No, I don't like being set up.
Like, I don't appreciate that.
That was nasty for sure.
You had a 50% chance of winning.
It's not my fault.
That was hilarious.
Nah, I didn't like it.
If I was you, I would have known when I picked Bigot.
No, I thought you were going to try and fake us out.
It can't be greatness, man.
Sadly, today, I was great.
It's okay.
Donovan's petting his dog to stake on him.
Because I thought that he knew.
What I figured was, I thought that Isaac was going to be like, oh, yeah, I know, I know
Donovan is going to want to pick Westbrook.
And I know that he thinks that.
So I'm going to go here.
I thought it was just like a fake.
out for real so yeah you got a fake out of a fake out yeah oh god put in the blender it's okay
last thing we're gonna do today we'll be back I'm gonna name two NBA teams and I want you
guys to tell me which one of them has a better all-time lineup who would win in a seven
game series between these two all-time teams I used to do this okay let's let's talk about
it first off we got the New York Knicks versus the 76ers see I love how uh
Beat is not on this all-time list.
This brings me great joy.
I felt like I was cheating to not put wilt over him, you know.
Exactly.
It's your head to your core.
It's probably the Sixers, though.
I'm sorry.
Like, Will is,
will's better than Patrick Ewing.
Alan Iverson, I would say,
is better than Walt Frazier.
Julie Servant, obviously, is better than Bernard King.
Wow.
Listen, Iggy's going to make Carmelo work, but I mean, Carmisiggy has some defense.
He might have some clamps for Camela.
Yeah, Clans.
Those are going to have a fantastic, like, six.
Yeah, it's the same clamp that he brought out for LeBron that, you know, he held LeBron at 35.
Same clamps inside.
Are you using a finals MVP like it's not impressive?
I mean, it shouldn't be his.
It should be Steph Curry's.
It was stolen from Steph Curry.
Leave it to a Curry fan to make.
a 76ers versus Nick's debate about Curry.
Yeah, exactly.
Just for that, I'm picking the Sixers.
Fuck the Knicks.
I picked the Sixers, too.
Congratulations.
We're on the same team.
All right, next one.
The Bulls versus the Warriors.
I feel inclined to pick the Bulls now that we had the Muncheon going on.
Now, what are we doing?
This is the Warriors, bro.
We have the greatest team of all time.
This might be the greatest lineup of all time.
Yeah, with one of the greatest centers.
Does this beat the Lakers all-time lineup?
Maybe if you're talking about, like, with their movement, and instead of, I don't know.
Instead of Festus Sezili, David West, you say, yeah, here's Wilk Chamberlain.
Like, yeah, you might win.
Here's the greatest athlete that's ever lived next to this amazing team.
It's two completely different teams because you have to deal with Magic, Kobe, Bon, and Kareem all at one time.
It's too much to do with.
My bad, Brian Scalabrini.
He knows some mobiles.
So, yeah, I mean, listen.
Shout out Michael Jordan.
Shout out, Scottie Pippin.
Artist Gilmore is not carrying you against these giants.
Now, he's getting killed.
Can Dreyman
Stephen Curran pulling out of a gun?
Slaughter.
Oh, God.
What is Jordan going to do when Dremont Green
hits him with a shoulder and like
slide-tack?
He's going to chuck him out.
He's going to chuck him.
up and he's going to get ejective from the game and go on get it's over this is the
warriors sure it's the warriors like and it's yeah it's not many teams to beat this
some teams like the lakers are probably more talented but in terms of actually fitting
together and playing a seven game series I don't think you can really beat this all-time
team for the warriors the synergy's crazy especially because four of them just fucking
played together at once in real life it's hard to beat that I can't exactly I can't
believe we saw that real time that's crazy I know
No, imagine DeMarcus Cousins didn't have his ACL exploded.
We just saw DeMarcuscus there.
Wow.
He would be dominated with AD back in the Pelicans, and AD probably wouldn't be a Laker.
Yeah, he never would have been there.
Yeah, okay, next one.
The Cavaliers versus the Miami Heat.
LeBron versus LeBron.
Yeah, considering that the better version of LeBron is on Miami, I'm going to go with Miami.
Mark Price, you're a great guy.
Tell me, Brad Daughter.
he doesn't move you? He's nice. I'm not trying to disrespect Brad, you know.
Shout out Brad. You know, shout out BD. He's no Alonzo. He's no Zoh. Right. Mark Price.
Mark Price, amazing shooter. He can't guard that crossover from Hardaway. He can't do that. He can't
stand. You're right. But who is shooting on this team? Who is shooting on this team? See, the great
thing about Tim Hardaway's crossover is that it's very fundamental. You know what I'm
It's very right here.
A lot of guys are out here with it, right?
What's he talking about?
Tim Hardaway put you in a phone booth.
And Tim Hardaway just says, I'm here, but you can't stand in.
He's giving us a tutorial.
Exactly.
What's going on?
Exactly.
Once again, it's a pop, pop.
It's a very one-two, you know?
Home mode engaged.
It's very efficient.
So, yeah, so I'm going to take Tim Hardaway because of that.
Nothing beats a good drop step.
Listen, you feel them on your hip, just turn and go.
You're there.
We're taking Miami.
You get some nice touch?
I can put you on some mic and drills.
We can get your touch around the rim at a 99 overall, right?
Awesome.
Okay, we're going to Miami.
A Mark Price, Carrier, and backcourt is tragic defensively.
What do you doing?
Spacing is nasty.
Next up.
The Brooklyn Nets versus the Los Angeles Clippers.
Battle of the Little Brothers.
the idea of the clippers.
Like, if you were to put this in 2K,
I think I might take the clippers.
I don't know. The idea of the Nets is ridiculous.
Jason,
with three athletic wings
and a, and Brooke Lopez down low?
Chris Paul
with Blake Griffin and then two
two-way wings.
And Bob McAdoo?
Yeah.
Oh, and Bob McAdoo smokes Brooke Lopez.
What version of Brooklyn do we have?
Do we have splash mountain,
Brooke Lopez?
No, he wasn't shoot like that with the Nets.
Listen, when you're talking about offensive rebounding.
Exactly.
Ew.
Ew.
You're talking about post position.
No, I'm going to go with the clippers.
Chris Paul could throw an entry pass, too.
Oh, hell no.
They don't do entry passes anymore.
It's not really a thing.
It's a lost art.
Exactly.
But if you get somebody who's skilled down low, again, you feel them on your back,
seal.
right hand up right you put the hand up bro you let them know right now you put the hand up you let
him know exactly where you want it right good god i have kawai's healthy chris paul's in his prong give me
the clippers thanks though
rappers versus the magic
ew shack and dwight is nasty as oh who the hell is
ew it's disgusting it's nasty it's disgusting you'd probably put dwight at the fore
But it's also awesome.
It's O.P.
Who's, who's guarding?
Chris Bosch can't guard Dwight like that.
And he for sure can't guard Shaq like that.
Kauai getting,
Kauai guarding Shaq or Dwight his knees might burst, bro.
Holy should.
Yeah, but also Dwight Varding cool,
Dwight guarding Kauai.
If it's young Dwight, he has a chance for sure.
We're running Kauai.
We're running Dwight Howard off a double stagger screen,
making a run on the perimeter.
We are tiring his ass out.
I promise you, Shaq, he's not moving
five feet away from the basket.
We will play this zone.
We will play this zone all day long.
Those two guys are not moving.
Every single time in my life
where I bought in with Kyle Lowry
and DeMarterwood Roars and Lead Backcourt,
I've lost.
So I'm definitely in the Orlando Magic.
Listen.
Kauai wasn't walking through those doors.
He's here today.
Now, I'm moving back.
19 kawai this is a cyborg kawai we don't care about that this is this is jacking d'i they're
getting beat tomorrow larry's basketball i'm definitely i'm definitely they're losing by 30 on
the boards every migrating and hardaway too that bag is disgusting thanks the athleticism and you
have the shooter and rachal lewis yeah no just a little bit of spacing yeah i'm definitely in
orlando that's all you need we got dwight and shackdon with lobs to each other just volleyball
I don't even know if they'll mess with you so like that on the same team for real
oh I didn't think about that the chemistry might tear the team apart yeah no shit I didn't
think about that we can go after Shacks not Sax and I can let them succeed
Shacks and they still were out here winning championship so Dwight is not Kobe
that is very true you are right right about that pressure makes diamonds
damn Dwight Turner afters you are the winners
Next one.
The Mavericks or the Rockets?
This is tough.
This is tough.
This is tough.
Listen, James Hardin, Hakeem Alojuan pick and roll
will be one of the nastiest things we've ever seen.
It'd be ridiculous.
You got caught on the wing, too.
I might leave the use of rockets.
But a Luca Dirk pick and roll?
That team has spacing.
With the pick and pop ability,
you're right
I think I might trust in the defense
of the Houston Rockets more
I think the defense is pretty pissed
for the Mavericks
Nash, Donchitz and
you got Dirk too
Tyson Chandler and Mark McGuire
are fighting for their lives
Yeah I don't think Team Nash
and Luca can play like that though
I don't know I mean
A little James Hardin and Chris Paul type action
They definitely could for sure
They definitely could
but on the often i know for a fact hard and emigrety could cook together
a hundred percent i know for a fact malone and hakeen can cook together
listen that's four out of the five cooking so yeah i'm gonna take the right
drexo you can just be there you can figure it out get in where you fit in he could just
catch lobs he yeah there you can run the break spacing's tragic but we'll make it work
let's go rockets we're just gonna be there derrick jones junior is that you're telling me right now
exactly exactly buy into your role clyd wow
What if Derek Jones, Jr.
was just Clyde Drexler.
All right.
What are you talking about?
The Milwaukee Bucks versus the OKC Thunder slash Supersonics.
Kareemiannis and Ray Allen is tough.
And Big O2, of course.
Let's see, they both got Ray Allen.
Ray Allen or Ray Allen crime.
See, listen, where you lose me is the Kareem versus Sean Kemp.
Yeah.
Everybody else
Everybody else can get it
I see one of these things
Is not like the other
So
This is literally the clown meme right here
Yeah
Sean Kemp would be furious
guarding a post hook over and over again
Exactly
And he's gonna be over here crying
To KD for like help
He'd be acting like Sean Kemp today
Gary Payne went out the guard
Kareem
Oh my God, yeah
It's reps
I just read Lepin Donovan said
thank you
violence
all right we're going
bucks this is too easy
kareemiannis are unstoppable together
it's ridiculous with spacers
yeah the bucks are out there
posting up guards
doing this big old 60s basketball thing
that'd be glorious
yeah the bucks is an easy choice for sure
is over here dribbling real hard one hand
can nobody stop that one hand shot
and it's unstoppable
it's taking floaters
from 25 feet.
Ew,
that's crazy.
All right,
next up.
The Grizzlies
or the Hawks?
See,
guys,
these are two
of the worst
all-time teams.
We've ever seen.
Joe Johnson mentioned.
Joe Johnson's
I'm gonna take the Hawks though.
I'm gonna take the Hawks though.
I'm gonna take the Hawks.
Shane Baddy just immediately
tanks the team
the entire team from me.
I'm not gonna like.
to you.
What?
He's a
he fits in.
Great player for sure.
He's a nice guy.
He's not stopping.
He's not stopping Iso Joe.
He's not stopping the human highlight rule, Dominique Wilkins.
John Moran, Mike Conley defense is hilarious to imagine.
That's the small as bad court that you could ever imagine, right?
Nobody would be stopped.
Are you telling me?
But also a Bob Pettit Matumbo front court in the modern NBA?
Oh, Jesus.
Brother.
We have Joe Johnson.
Put on 2007 Joe Johnson eyes and your mind will change forever.
You don't remember Prime Joe Johnson.
Explain it to me.
Right?
So the thing about Prime Joe Johnson, right?
Joe Johnson can really get a bucket on anybody.
It's the reason why in the big three right now, all these old dudes, they're struggling,
their backs hurt.
Joe Johnson is still out here, 40 plus.
You see, the thing is, they don't teach a jab step anymore.
They don't teach the pump fake anymore.
See, Joe Johnson was the massive.
The triple threat, right?
You got to be able to dribble, pass, or shoot at any given moment, right?
Yes.
Have you seen that video of Larry Bird and Kevin McHale
Explained the pick and roll?
Yeah.
That's not that you said like.
Oh, my goodness.
Yo, shout out Joe Donson, though, for real, though.
I'm taking it.
I'm taking the hawks.
If you're still here, comment, shout out Joe Johnson.
I'm taking the hawks.
If you're still here, comment, they don't know about the triple threats.
They don't know.
They don't know.
Classic, bro.
Next up.
Last one.
The Spurs or the Celtics?
Again, one of these things is not like the other.
Bob Coosie, you're getting a.
attacked. I'm taking the time of the Toney Parker. It's just Tony Parker. Don't make me do it.
Don't make me tell you how good and how much of a problem Tony Parker was. You're talking about going down. You're talking about going down. Talk about that unstoppable mid-range game. Talk about that flutation device.
Get to where he wanted in the mid-range. His spin move towards the basket was amazing. He was very quick, not fast, but quick.
quick and he can get around bob coozy i'm going with tony parker i'm sorry
i can't fucking breathe i can't believe the fact of what's going on man this is the stupidest thing i've ever
I can't formulate a sentence
I'm crying real tears
Oh my gosh
Yeah, I'll take the spurs
Also they have the listen respect Bill
He can't he can't provide the same offense
That Tim or Dave Robinson can
So mismatch
him and Paul Pierce trying to guard George
Curfin and Tim Duncan.
Yeah, they're getting
a nightmare.
Mismatch.
Paul Pierce, man. His day, he's going to
have a really bad night that night.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my God.
He did reps.
Wow.
Yeah, man. That's the show.
That's the show. This is the end of the episode.
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