The Deep 3 Podcast - We Graded Every NBA Free Agency Move (Ft. Pierre of NOTB) | Ep. 96

Episode Date: July 5, 2024

Today we grade every NBA free agency move with Pierre from Numbers On The Board! Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Join the TD3 discord!: https://discord.gg/RUkjpMPp7E Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- Intro 2:06- Mikal Bridges trade 11:40- 76ers sign Paul George 17:30- Mavs sign Klay 25:45- Lakers FAILURE 36:03- Dejounte Murray trade 43:27- Magic sign KCP 50:20- Nuggets failure 57:00- Thunder get Caruso and IHart 1:04:10- Warriors moves 1:11:10- Spurs get CP3 1:17:40- Pistons get Tobias Harris 1:20:00- Tiktok Time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

So last week we started the show, sadly, having to hype up the Knicks, because Donovan's in here, something good happened to him as a Knicks fan. We had to let him talk about it, go crazy for like 20 minutes. And I regret to inform me all that today's going to be even worse because we have two Knicks fans in the building. We got two years from numbers on the board, Chicago's finest. How are you doing, man? I'm good, man. I'm excited to be here finally as long overdue. I got like a DM or mention for so many weeks now of at least one person saying,

when are we making this collab happen so hopefully we're satisfied of people I'm happy to be here man thank you all for having me of course man I appreciate you coming through yeah we get these comments all the time especially because Kenny comes on every now and then it's always like when we get in the full show

crossover yep seven people's a lot but we can do one ball it is a lot lot and D Mills and Mike talk now they talk they talk about a lot change from back on all

this one of the show yeah a lot has changed I'll be looking to my left and my right like, dang, can I could I say a word? Oh, man. This is a new blockbuster TV. I remember when I first

started working for House of Highlights like 2021, when I first came on, D Mills is a whole different person. Whole different person, man. Whole different person. For sure. Definitely. Yeah, man.

Shout out D Mills. Shout out D Mills, man. It's his birthday today. It's his birthday today. Oh, let's go. Happy birthday Mills. If y'all are sure here, comment, happy birthday meals. If you haven't clicked away

I didn't D. Mills Dan, Ronnie, what a day. Yeah, man, as you'll see you by the title, we're going to go through every single NBA free agency move, and you know that we are certified liars, so it's not really going to be every single one. Title just says that. But it's going to be most of the ones that we care about that are worth talking about,

all the big trades, all the, I would say big signings, just like two big signings, all the medium signings. We're going to grade them for each team. It would be great. The cranium is crazy. Oh, my God.

I mean, I don't know what to say. Pray on eaters, rejoice. Do you want to start with the Knicks? Please. Of course. Of course. They're itching for it. God.

Okay. The first thing that's grade. Fienerbridge and straight to the Knicks. One of you Knicks fans take it away. Donovan, it's all you. Listen, I have, I'm grading this as, we're giving this an 89, right? So I'm going to give it as high of a B plus as possible just because five first round picks five first round picks is a lot. It is a lot.

And you look around the league and like you look at what other people are, you know, giving up for certain players. Like Rudy Gobert ends up going for five first round picks. And we look back at that trade and we're like, you know, you guys really, really overpaid. And that's for somebody who is multiple time DPO.O.I. I think Mikhail Bridges is going to fit in perfectly. I think the Knicks are going to go to another level. If you look at it as a package deal between McHale and OG, it's perfect. But just five first time picks, I'm still trying to stomach that a little bit, but it's, it's an amazing deal for the Knicks.

That's an interesting grade. I thought it was going to be a little higher. But I like it because as Nick fans, we have to be a little bit, you know, realistic. But me, I'm going to take this opportunity to give us a 97. The reason I'm getting us at 97 is because of what you just said. We take McHale, we pair him with OG. Not only do we take McHale and put him in that situation, all of these Villanova guys, I don't know. I don't know.

I hate to use this, but all of these Villanova guys come together and thrive, so maybe we'll see him reach another level. And the only reason it's not 100% is because we did give up the five first round picks. But we didn't really do much with our picks to begin with. All of these guys that are on our team that we love. That's fair. They're not, you know, Brunson was acquired, DeVincenzo acquired, Hart. We draft our best drafting picks are guys later, like Emmanuel Quickly, Mitchell Robeson, Quentin Grimes. When we are in the front of the draft, we have Frank Nealekina.

Who else? RJ Barrett. RJ Barrett. Kevin Knox is the one. Frank Nealekina and Kevin Knox are the ones that make me say we don't need first round Picks anyway. So that's my argument for us giving up the first round Pigs. Shout out to R.J. Barrett, though. yeah i think uh i feel similar to this that i do to the hardensigned contract for the thunder which we'll get to later it's for sure an overpay but when you're in position where you got the

extra assets and you're in win now it's a very understandable overpay and i'm gonna go a i think you know people like to say like you got the first role player super team as if it's some kind of like pejority like it makes it not impressive i think having one superstar and then a super team of role players is pretty dope i think it's a pretty good winning formula and especially when you have bridges who can lock back in defensively pair that with o g i think that tandem, what you can have with that wing duo is just as impactful with having a star that doesn't necessarily compliment as much as those to do. I mean, a role player super team just won the championship. So we can we can run it. We can run it back. That's true. Wow.

Don, what are you bringing for the other team? I, me personally, I would go ahead and give them what did you say? What are you bringing it for the nets? Oh, for the nets. First and foremost, the Knicks. I agree with you guys. A overall. But for the Brooklyn Nets, also, I'm going to give them an A because they didn't need to get off of Macauau Bridges. With this specific trade alone, this gave them glimpses of a future. And then they went ahead and made other moves that I guess we can talk about later. But for this move specifically, you win because Macau Bridges as your first overall, as your first option, gets you nowhere but to the front of the lottery. And for them, at this point in time, they didn't have their picks.

Now it's slightly different conversation, but regardless of the fact, it's an A. Yeah, this is like the most win-win trade imaginable. Like this is A plus for both of them, I think. Like the Ness, we talked about a little bit last week. We're such a laughing stock and went to being like so sharp overnight. Like you went from being the team everyone's like, hey, are they dumb? Do they not want to do anything like, you know, reasonably well in the next five years? They just want to be mid forever.

And now you're like, oh, wait, they have like one of the brightest rebolds ahead of them you could possibly imagine with their own picks back and all these extra picks. It's getting that kind of value from McHill Bridges is insane. It really is. I was tough on the Nets for a long time because I just felt like, why are you keeping him? And for them to keep him as long as they did and still get five picks. I didn't think they would get five picks back then. I thought the most they would get was like four, including like a swap or something.

So to get five, I just, for me as a Nick fan, never in a million years that I think the Nets would give us McHale Bridges. Never. That must hurt them so much Seeing the fucking Villanova kids Go party together On the other side of the city That must hurt But if you can get your own pick back

And listen We laughed at the Nets For reports of them wanting Three first round picks for Bridges We were like Who the fuck do you think this guy is This is not Kevin Durant And then they got more than Kevin Durant

Got traded for it's crazy Yeah I for sure Thought this was gonna be like A Masay Ujiri Type thing where Where Missai is like Listen I'm gonna need 10 first round picks And your first born son

And it's just gonna be For Yaka Porto Like I thought I thought that they were asking for too much. And like y'all said, it's crazy that that actually happened. But, I mean, listen, I think, like, for them to flip the switch as quickly as they did, they could be in a situation where they're, like, the sons or they're, like, the clippers and you don't have any of your picks for the rest of the decade.

And now you're just out here. And we all, you know, remember Joe Sye talking about, you know, I just want to go back to that, you know, to that 42 and 40 team where it was fun and people cared. Like, if you have Mikhail Bridges as you. as your leading guy, that's what you were going to be, best case scenario. So it's amazing that it worked out this way. Don't you all feel good that you don't got to, like the areas you're in now going forward as a Knicks fan, that you don't got to pretend RJ Barrett's the guy anymore,

that you're in like a place of prosperity and that you don't got to gas at yourself anymore. Yeah, I was never one of those Nick fans, though. I really wasn't. I always started RJ Barrett. I remember some conversations. I think at some point you were. He's saying he has footage, do you, Pierre? What was I saying?

I don't remember. I remember one conversation we had. It was early on in Tyre's Maxie's career. We had to say, who would you rather have RJ Barrett or Maxie? I remember we were arguing about Chicago. Okay. That definitely happened because we had a conversation about Maxie. I didn't know it was RJ Barrett, but I remember that conversation.

Damn. Tough. So long just then. A lot of Nick fans didn't like me like in the Twitter community because I was a person, then this is going to sound crazy. I was a person that used to say I wish we had took Cam Reddish instead of R.J. Barrett.

Now, with hindsight, that sounds crazy, but both of them coming out of college, if you were familiar with them in the early pre-MBA days, I just thought that Cam Reddish would have been a much better player

and a pro in a different situation. The start of his career, and now what we see, obviously that sounds stupid. But yeah, I was never the biggest RJ Bear fan. I just, I did try to convince myself on multiple occasions that he was a little better than what he was, though, for sure. Yeah. Wow. So, okay, so we're bearing the lead here. Let's talk

about it. Do you guys view the Knicks as having a real chance to come out of the East? 100%. They should. Absolutely. 100%. I don't, okay, so like, I do think that Boston should still be the favorite. Like, they've earned that right to be the favorite to come out of the East. Between us and Philly, it's a, it's a dead tie. I will put us. ahead of Philly just because, you know, their two stars are unreliable in every way possible, whether it's injuries. Listen, listen, you're right. You know, I'm not, I'm not, let me, let me not, let me not, let me not, let me not

Tyree's maxi unreliable, he's cool. Exactly. I'm not, I'm not going to, I'm not going to disrespect Maxie, but Joelle and Bid is never healthy and Paul George is never healthy, and he bricks shots off the side of the backboard, and B doesn't want to take, you know, wide open jumpers in the fourth quarter. That's, that's whatever. I trust what New York can do. in a playoff situation and you just added 10 points to to the chemistry attributes so yes they

should be the favorites you know over at least over the sixers yeah i agree yeah i like our chances um this center position is going to be interesting even though i have full confidence that thibodon and company will figure it out every center he's had um he's found a way to increase their their value why they's been with the nix but the celtics i still i still respect and fear the Celtics, man. I think that they are a problem. I think we cannot fall into thinking everything that they're doing is like infused with the basketball play. They do some corny stuff. They're not the most likable team. I get it. But when they play, they are better than everybody else in the NBA. And I'm still feeling that way. But I do think, like Donovan said, if there was any other

team out of the East that I think could represent the East of Conference, it would be us. Philly got to show me something, man. Philly got to show me something. I respect them, but like Donovan said, Embed is not always available, and that is always going to be a big question mark for them. Me personally, I wouldn't even worry about, real quick, me personally, I wouldn't even worry about the whole center thing

because, you know, Tib's contact is deep as hell. He's going to head up and he's going to go ahead and hit up the old yellow. Todge Gibson. Yep. I was just about the same. He's always there. Always there at all times, bro. So, yeah, okay, let's transition this to talking about the Philly trade then since we've got to kind of compare the two. Mo, how do you grade this for the sixers? Because you're the biggest PG fan amongst us pretty easily. Actually, no, I forgot. Pierre is also a PG fan. I don't know. Yeah. Y'all got to duke it out for your PG stand. But you're both going to lie, that pose was absolutely insanity. But me personally, I love this for Paul George because I sit down here thinking to myself, who has been the best center that Paul George has ever played with in his entire current?

career. Oh my damn. Is it Roy Hibbert? Verticality. Is it like 2018 Steven Adams or something like that? Absolutely disgusting. I love it. And I think he's for the affiliate every 76, just like standpoint, you go ahead and you have to absolutely do this move because the window for Joel Embed is so small, incredibly small when someone, you have someone so big and talented and all that. And you don't worry about the Paul George contract when he's 37. 38 years old because your biggest emphasis is within these next two, three years.

That's the window and you have to strike right now. So I love it. I would give it a. Real quick, Toy and Princh to sign with the Bucks. That's interesting. Low key, kind of a good sign. Nice. That's a great time. Yeah, I like that. I like that for them. Good for them.

Good for the Lakers. We'll get to them. We'll get to them later. Those motherfuckers. We'll get to them later. Yeah, as far as PG? Yeah, as far as the 76s, man, this is a great fit for both sides. I think for Paul George at this point of his career, as a PG fan, it's probably best for him to be a third option. You know what I mean? Light low for him. You can play off of these two dynamic players. I really love the duel of Tyrese and Joel Embed. And if you take out Tobias and put Paul George

there, I think that's a significant upgrade. So I like everything that they're doing. You get Eric Gordon. He's back with Darry. Andre Drummond is now the backup center again. You bring back Ubrae. Philadelphia is doing some good things. I love the way Nick Nurse coaches too. So I think this was very, very good. And like most said, the most important thing is trying to take advantage of that small window of an opportunity you have with Embed. That means more than anything. Yeah, I'll grade it in A. I think, you know, everyone was pretty harsh on the 76th just not making a deal with the deadline and not maximizing a ridiculous in B season. It got a little bit easier whenever he got hurt so people are okay they can punt the season a little bit but you know

their whole plan was keep flexibility and they had a feeling that this summer when they can free up this cap space they could get somebody this so the plan worked this is like the best guy you could have possibly got if they didn't get him they would look real silly waiting to get buddy healed back or whoever it would have been so got to be an a just because the plan worked yo does there more and know more than like five bench players in the league like why is eric on the Sixers again like it just it doesn't it doesn't make every single year he's going to call up somebody that was on the 2017 2018 rocket yeah and he's like it was dan your house exact do you want a job exactly exactly I think what's even more impressive about this thing too like you said

Isaac go back to it um they still have assets from the James Harden trade they have I think a 2028 Clippers pick that's unprotected which is now with how things have unfolded for the clippers very interesting and they have the ability to pivot even more if they need to reassure their off reassure their bench depth or whatever it might be and make an extra trade for whoever it might be yeah so do you all know when this trio is together obviously doesn't got to be explained to fit like a glove pg fits essentially anybody how much faith do y'all have that they have a real chance to like you know make a run and challenge the celtics like are you all worried about the injury stuff and just general lack of reliability to

with these guys? Yeah. I think I think I'm probably at like 65% confidence that they can make a deep run. And even even that might be a little bit high just because for everything that we said, we have been waiting years on years on years for MB to put together, forget four straight playoff runs. Can you put together three? Can you put together two? Can you get to the conference finals? And we haven't seen that. And then for Paul George, the last like, the 2021 playoff run where Kauai got hurt, he got the clippers to the conference finals. Shout out to him for that.

Outside of that specific moment, the last couple PG playoff runs, they haven't felt great, right? They haven't been amazing. And so I'm looking at them. I'm looking at your two guys. And unless Maxie is going to be the guy that's like closing, which I would be,

if Maxi ends up being the closer on this team, by all means, go ahead. Because I know that he's not scared of any of these moments. And I know that like to me in that role he doesn't really have anything else to prove the other two are the ones where I'm like you guys still have a level to jump to if you are going to like fully fully maximize, you know, your potential. And so I'm just not I'm not sure about that. What does this do for podcast P's legacy? Are they still going to record the show? The studios in LA. Are we going to lose one of the best player podcasts out? Questions need to be answered. No, we don't lose it. We don't lose it. They're going to move, watch. I promise you. They're going to do it virtually. Something is going to happen.

Something is going to happen. But they're not ending that podcast. He just did it. Who was that magazine with when he was on the cover of it? Was that with the boardroom with Kevin Durant's company? That means that he is fully invested into his podcast career. So we ain't seen the last of that podcast at all. He'd rather lose a leg than lose that podcast, basically.

That's a retirement plan right there. For real. sure. All right, let's move on to the other biggest name that moved this re-agency cycle. Pierre, what are you grading Clay Thompson to the Dallas Mavericks? Ah, this is probably like an 83, 84, maybe even an 85. The reason I love this so much is just because I think Nico Harrison and the Mavericks are continue to find ways to get better with very small windows to do it. And when you have a talent like Luca Donge, that's all you can really pretty much ask for. They did really good.

at the draft last year trading to get Derek lively they go into the year or in last off season they double down on trading for Kyrie and hindsight that trade looks crazy then at the deadline they go out and get PJ Washington and Daniel Gafford they took a bet on Derek Jones Jr. They've done everything that you can ask and really extracted as much talent as possible and then they go into the free agency market without a whole bunch of cap space and find a way to add clay obviously perimeter defense is loss, but it's only so much you can do. If you exchange Tim Hardaway Jr., Derek Jones, Jr., and Josh Green, and replace it with Clay, Quinn Grimes, and Najee Marshall. I kind of like it. So I'm going to give them an 84. Do I think they win in a championship next year? No, but I think they continue to find

ways to get better, and that's all Luca can ask for. Yeah, I was going to say B minus, so about the same area. Wow. B minus Y. Same reasons or what? The defense. I think you have to start them just based on politics, at least at first, maybe that'll change, but I find it hard to believe they can field a good defense with Kyrie, Luca, and Clay as a front three. Is Kyrie going to be guarding the best point guards on every night? That's, I mean, I guess, I guess he can, but do you want him to? Not exactly a winning formula, I don't think. Yeah, I'm about the same, the same level. Like, I'm giving this an 80 for the defense and also for Clay. Clay is two years removed from back to back like serious, serious lower leg injuries, the ACL, the Achilles. And we saw it last year,

even though that he played better in like the second half of the year, the first half, and even throughout, you know, parts throughout the entire season, he's very inconsistent at this point. And you see that with like with older shooters, once their consistency starts to go, you can kind of see them on the decline at a very like steady rate. And I'm not sure what another offseason is going to be like for Clay, what another year in the end. NBA is and is he going to try and come out and be the old Clay Thompson not even on the offensive end is he going to try and prove to people that he can still do it on the defensive end and so now is he going to tire himself out doing it like how how let him exactly but like but how

I don't know if he's capable of that I don't know even if Clay Thompson is you know pulling up his shorts and smacking the floor and he's like oh I'm locked in like I don't I don't know if Clay Thompson can go out and get stops eight times out of 10 so let him try so I don't yeah I'm not I'm not 100% sure about that Mo did you show Mo you asked you were surprised I said B minus do you graded a lot higher this specific signing I think I would be around the same range now looking at their offseason as a whole I'll probably go a little higher because you know Naji Marshall's a good player and all that other stuff

but people didn't come here and click on this podcast and watch me talk about Nizu Marshall nasty work right overall I would say yeah it's a great signing Naji Mars is underrated bro talk about the defense three-point shooting hit or miss over there but he's a see i'm doing the thing again anyways clay thompson saw like b i would say b plus because he's genuinely a threat and he can he was able to do a lot of things that the derrick jones junior of the worlds and josh greenes of the world and i guess you can say p j tuckers are the our p j washington's other world too uh throughout the entirety entirety of the playoffs of one series uh i saw a comment the last episode

So take a shot every time Mo says of the world. Yeah. Oh, you got a catchphrase. At the bottom of the bar. Exactly. Well, no, you're right for sure. That's hilarious. They're off-season grades really well.

Like, you're going to lose Derek Jones. You replace him with the guy that's just as good, if not better, at certain things. And then you replaced Tim Hardaway, who was absolutely irrelevant and wanted to be traded with Clay Thompson. Even if you can be as low on Clay Thompson as you possibly want, you're still going to think he's better. and Tim Hardaway, you're still going to think he defends better, is more consistent, all that. But I like this the most for Clay himself. You know, he talks about,

well, after we're done with this part, we'll talk with the Lakers a little bit and whether you guys wanted to see him go there. But he talked about wanting to go to a team that has less of a spotlight that was reported today. Dallas Mavericks don't get the media covers. The Warriors did. He can try to get back in his thing without having so much of a microscope on him.

And I feel like the biggest issue of why he looked so washed in Golden State was they play a system that he played in a certain way for so long. He runs off the screens, he creates, he shoots mid-range shots, does all the stuff that he needs drawing to on the ball. You can't really ask him to play differently after a decade. You know, it's hard to accept a smaller role when you've been doing this same thing in this one system forever.

Listen, if there's any team out there that he can go and stand there with his hands up and wait to shoot an open jump shot and do he does best at this point of his career, it is the Dallas Mavericks. He will look so much better standing there, watching Luca go between the legs, just waiting in the corner. That is exactly what he needs to do at this point of his career,

just focus on the jump shooting, not so much the creation off screens. He's going to age really gracefully here better than he would with the Warriors. You just said

something interesting. I think what you just said should give us even more reason to appreciate and respect the San Antonio Spurs. Outside of them,

I don't know anybody who has aged in a system as well as those core guys did with the San Antonio Spurs. In NBA history, obviously I'm going

off the top of my mind, but I really don't know anybody who was in a system and was able to age as gracefully as they were they like competed to the end they gave themselves chances they ushered in kawai it is very hard to do and yeah that is a great a great um a great point in clay leaving i didn't know he said that so shout out to clay i'm happy for him i want to see him with a chip on his shoulder i love that the options he was looking at were situations where the warriors were going to kind of have to see him one way or another Because if I was him, I would have felt disrespected.

And I also would have been like, let me see y'all replace what I do. Let me see Moses Moody do what I do. Let me see Andrew Wiggins do what I do. Since I'm so none of a priority, let's see it. You will not see that. And yeah, we will not see it. God forbid he tries. Hopefully he get the last laugh, man.

I really do because I don't get not paying him what he wanted, but paying Dremont. I understand Dremont as a player and I like him, but I feel like the Warriors wouldn't be in a situation. they're in in a lot of different ways if it wasn't for Draymond doing a lot of non-basketball things what's so interesting about that whole dialogue too is

there was a point in time elite I believe like a day ago or two days ago Clay was like he was telling stuff like don't use any of your influence don't make any demands they either want me or they don't they're either going to choose me or they're going to lose point blank period

and they lost I respect it I feel it you don't wanted somebody to have to go to bat for you like for organization that she was going crazy for us to be the most principled guy of all time everything that we were hearing this reporting is just him being like like like you said disrespected and just like wearing that shit on his shoulder like he seems to be so about it if he feels disrespected he's like fuck that shit they're saying there's reports that him and dray mom were both mad when wiggins and pool got extended i guess i would be too like it's so much is understandable and like everything that we

projected onto clay for years you know a lot of times people do that with players doesn't being true like the Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown thing everyone assumed there be friction who's gonna be one in all this bullshit it's usually nothing everything we thought about Clay Thompson was true I think checks out yeah yeah and he went to Dallas one of the other reasons was the taxes he's a very yeah yeah I like clay I like a lot too did y'all did y'all did you all want to go to the Lakers how do y'all feel what the Lakers missing out on him listen I think it's a big deal to talk about so this is only Lakers opportunity we have to speak on them.

I think it's a big deal that the Lakers didn't get them. We said on the stream, like, I thought that, I thought that Clay would have been a better fit in, in L.A., just because the defense behind them, right, having, having AD behind them, like, you could probably create a better five-man lineup where you don't have such, like, obvious weaknesses. But, and so, like, for L.A., like, you, you know, you don't really have those shooters. Like you are now relying on Dalton Connect, a rookie, to come in and be J.J. Reddy. You're asking a lot, you're asking a lot of Connect.

You're asking a lot of Austin Reeves. You are praying that Rui turns into the Rui that he was for three weeks, two years ago in the playoffs. And so to get a, to get a bona fide shooter in Clay, even though that he's inconsistent, it would be something that they haven't had in a long time. And it's kind of a, it's kind of a big deal because they have, what one more year of us like legitimately thinking that lebron and a d could put together some type of magical run like they they need another piece and so now now you're kind of looking around it's a it's a lot of it's a lot of stepping up that has to be done you're giving

one more year i mean maybe like like maybe i'm yeah i feel pretty pessimistic as a lakers fan right now i don't know if i'm going one more year i think i'm pretty much over why do you I'm, if they decided to blow this shit up and rebuild today, I would not be upset about it. And over the past few years, I've never thought that. I'm pretty over it. I love to hear that, Isaac. That is refreshing to hear. Not a lot of Laker fans are walking around with that mentality.

And that is, that is, I love when fans are not caught up in the bullshit that the organization tries to sell. And that's why I'm touring with the Clay thing. Like a lot of it, I kind of liked because, you know, the purple and gold is, intriguing you know i'm not a laker fan but it's like you can't deny that the purple and gold is what it is it's their play there to be a nice story but then it's also like that ray allen thing when you leave the celtics you go join up with brawn and the heat it's i don't know if i like that as a competitor and then also when you when you guys just discuss all the extra stuff about him saying the attention if he was not trying to go to a market where the attention was going to be high got to stay far away from

L.A. That is a circus right now. J.J. Reddick is your head coach. You just drafted Bronny. Whenever you do something wrong, it will not be LeBrona default. It will be on you or somebody else. That's just not a healthy position to be in for somebody like Clay that's trying

to get back on track. So I'm torn. I wanted to see him with the Lakers, but at the same time, adding in all of that extra stuff, I kind of like them. I like him with Dallas. I also wouldn't have mind him in Philadelphia either. man Lakers fans are in such hysterics right now because Rob Plinkas was sitting on his hands

going Darwin Hammoe hands on his pockets and I get it you know the biggest problem is Rob Polinka has come out and said that they're being aggressive they're going to make these moves Rich Paul has came out and said LeBron will take a pay cut if you can get a guy like they've been very outright about their goal of making moves so it's things that they haven't

and you they watch all these fans are watching the other Western Conference teams go berserk and just build ridiculous teams like okay see and whatnot so they're like what about us that bothers me too. And I do think the fact that Rob Polinka had the opportunity for LeBron to take a pay cut

and add that mid-level exception and sign somebody for zero assets, just add that out right with the only cost being the bronze pockets. The fact that he couldn't take advantage of that is horrible and I think a huge indictment

of Rob Polinka and his process in his front office and how they're just horrible at making trades and doing signings. That's indefensible. Other than that, man, there's not a lot of shit they can do.

They weren't going to become a contender overnight this offseason. Like, I think they were kind of cooked either way and keep running it back and just wait until the deadline and make moves and keep your picks

until the right thing comes about makes more sense than Lakers fans are really giving it credit for it. Can I ask you all a question? Do y'all think that the Lakers depend too much on

the Laker the Laker? I don't even know what they call it. Absolutely. The aura. You think they use it too much to sell it?

100%. And it's they're lucky that like it worked for lebron but like you know for the last like 10 years it hasn't really gotten anything like there was a time where the lakers were missing out on meetings with with guys but you know lebron kind of revived it because even when they were when they were trashed lebron showed the entire league like no this franchise means something these colors mean something i want to do it for you know for the city and for this team and so it kind of brought them back up

but yeah they they rely i feel like a lot of major markets do that they're worse though they're again it's so hard to talk about the genie bus conversation because she gets a lot of hate for being a woman which is the thing like people are going to hate her more than they should for misogynistic purposes but she's also a terrible owner she's also a pretty clearly terrible owner so it's hard to call a spade there they hired rob polinka because he's pals with kobe and that's what it is right he got the opportunity that's not crazy right leon rose is also an agent it happens he has so much of a leash because of his relationships there that he has paid zero consequences for ineptitude since the russell Westbrook trade. He had, and it seems to be that there's no hot seat of any sort. He can just do his thing for as long as he wants because he's good with the family. And they move like a small family business because that's what they are, right? Their whole business is Lakers. They're not billionaires from other things. This is their business and they move in that way. Yeah. And they don't have, I don't think they have a legitimate front office with like multiple people in there assisting GMs, analytics people, a whole crew of people that are contributing to

decisions. I really think is Rob Polinka just like in there with fucking Kurt Rambis. Like, what should we do? And it's like, Kurt Rambis. Kurt Ramis' ass is like the secret GM and Rob Polink is just there hands in pockets trying to figure out what do we do man and they had the worst process ever every time these big names come available

they sit on their hands and wait and if they miss out on them because they're trying to go all in on these guys they have no backup plans because they weren't doing the groundwork while they were no talking to Clay they didn't have other staff members out here talking to Anthony Melton

I were talking to Buddy Healed they go all in on one target and they miss them and they're like well guys we tried signing free agents is hard making trades is hard because they have the worst process ever yeah not gonna lie you guys remove the lakers brand coloring and the history from it you guys are quite have been like quite literally like the charlotte hornets over the last like 10 years

like you guys not had any home-built stars bro no not even that because we have stars legitimately and we we've like sent our guys to all-star teams and all that other stuff quality so what train young paul no sap all-star and all that but listen listen listen you guys don't have any Are we going to let him say that? You had the mellow balls. The brand of ingers of the world. None of those guys can't get back to their full potential. What he's trying to say.

Be too. You guys have not compete. Yeah. I'm being honest. You guys have not done anything. That's really like contributing roundwork. The Hawks are run by the owner's fucking son that makes the decisions because he's the owner's son.

That is the same type of vibes we got here. But at least the Hawks have a team after coach after coach. Yeah, exactly. Like I can say have a coach of the year on my team. I can go ahead and say that I had four guys in a single year when an all-star team. Are you trying to have a mid-off right now with the Hawks and the Lakers? No, when it comes to just like how we guys are ran, yes, absolutely. We're ran better than you guys.

You guys are just still in L.A. I guess. We're going to look back at this Lakers situation like decades away and really, this is going to be bad, man. They dropped the ball in a lot of different situations. Just the impact Kobe had. with his death like that in itself and i and i hate to use it in a lucrative way but you have to understand that a lot of people wanted to represent colby that ushers in a lot of opportunities to get guys

lebron coming over there but i think players agents and fans are just too smart in today's world it's not like the 2000s where we don't have information we can get the analytics the same way you can we're on instagram and twitter we get the reports there's some random reddeter now which is probably somebody's agent, just being anonymous, giving us all of this information. And when you just look at how they've handled it, it's bad. They different coaches over the years, the thirst for a star, the Hollywood lights of like, hey, Cousman, Carlwell Pope for Russ, it ain't going to fit, but it's a name. So let's go do it.

And if we can't get Russ, we're going to get DeMar de Rosen. And it's like, oh, man, bro, what are y'all doing? We're going to view this. And it's all going to stem from their Western Westbrook trade, which, you know. Yes. Not to keep throwing it on him. It's not Russ's fault that this moronic decision-making group of a front office decided to bring him into the team. He didn't choose it.

It wasn't a free agency signing. But we're going to look back at that as being potentially the worst trade of all time. When we look at the fact that they could have had a whole era of legitimate Lakers basketball championship pursuits, right? They could have went back to back at 2021 if it wasn't for health reasons in the short off season. They had a real chance. And because of that, just like butterfly effect. of them getting hurt and them overreacting to that and just doing, again, poor process

and having bad decision making up top. They did the most destructive moves you've ever seen and fumbled. Like, not to be like they hurt LeBron's legacy, but they legitimately ruined like the back half of his career. It's crazy. They did. They did.

Even finding Austin Reeves, that's supposed to be like something that was like, oh shit, we got something here that we just found. Let's use that. They even found a way to like not capitalize on that. I just don't get what, like even, they can't get shit right

when they get it right. They can't win for losing. They just can't get right, man. Any other team, if the Warriors have found an Austin Reeves when the Warriors were cooking, man, the Warriors would have took full advantage of that, man. They would have took full advantage.

Steve Kerr would have never let them find in Austin Reeves. Yeah, exactly. That's true. That's true. Kaminga had the request to trade for a minute, so you're right. That's crazy. That's crazy.

Let me move back on to signings and talk about teams. that actually did some shit and not the team that did nothing. How do you all feel about the Dejante Murray trade? What were grading that?

Mo. Cookwongs where you talked about it. Very very much. Oh, you're the Hawks fan. Damn. Hey, put it great to that shit. You were just talking to how well run they are. I said over the last 10 years,

don't pick and choose when you want to listen, all right? So for Atlanta Hawks? You said a lot of shit. I had to filter out some shit. I heard some shit about. I know. You picked your choose.

I understood. said both in this situation. Al Horford is a quality player to talk about. What we want to talk about him? Oh my God. Keep going. Okay. Okay.

What happened? Wrapping. Grading this trade, I would give this a solid like C plus, maybe C minus. Only because I understand like us fans, we don't dictate what players values should be and is or whatever the market does. market being all these other NBA teams. So I would give this a C plus considering we were able to get two picks back. And with how the entire NBA is viewing DeJante Murray, I think they view him a little bit worse,

or a lot worse actually than he actually is. He's genuinely not that bad. I think he was just terribly miscasted alongside Trey Young and a whole lot of other things are going terribly wrong within this organization. But with what they were able to recoup, I'll give us like a solid C-mination. C plus at best. Yeah. Okay.

That's interesting. I actually think it's a really good deal for the Hawks. Like I've seen a lot of people talk about this deal and be like, oh, like, I can't believe like they didn't get B.I back. Like, if you put Dejante Murray next to Brandon Ingram, you're going to take Brandon Ingram. And so I just don't see, I don't see a world where you trade DeJante Murray, get the better player back, get picks involved as well. So I think that for the Hawks, I actually think that they did as well as they possibly could. They broke up a duo that didn't necessarily work. I think that

this might be like addition by subtraction. Tray Young might be more more comfortable next year, you know, without like another point guard in the building. You got an interesting young player in Dyson Daniel. You got some picks back. Like it's DeJante Murray. Like he's good, but he's going to win anybody a championship and even now that he's in New Orleans the everybody in New Orleans is like okay that's fine but we still have to trade everybody because now everybody fits like it's not a it wasn't a he's not a person that can instantly go into a situation and take them from a tier three to a tier one championship contender so for the Hawks like good job you got some

assets back you ended this you know this bad experiment and now you can move on with your life isn't it was reported they wanted a young player and two draft picks for the jonti murat the deadline they got precisely that and it's always hard when regretting a trade that's like remedying a terrible mistake because you have like the stink of that original decision on it but you know that's the sunk cost at this point they got out of the situation the best they possibly could given the fact they had to sell them at his lowest point so yeah it's not terrible pierre i want to know how you view it for the pelicans i like it for the pelicans um you know i think they are a team that's in a weird spot we have so many teams in a league

where it's like they have a lot but at the same time they don't have enough and it's a weird thing because they have now dejante c jose alvarado jordan hawkins trade murphy uh brandon ingram zion damn am i forget anybody else they still eves missy herb jones i just forgot herb jones like that's 10 people i name and it's still like i don't know what they're doing so i like the trade to kind of sort it out. B.I. has to go. I'm a big B.I fan, but you got to let

Trey Murphy, you got to let his wings spread, man. You really do. I love the fact that they prioritize Herb Jones. I'm a big believer that potentially we can see some of that old Dejante Murray defensive-mindedness into this Pelican defensive culture. And because he isn't going to be the primary guy because you have Herb Jones, maybe his defense goes somewhat back to the Spurs days. But to me, the Pelicans now have to address that center spot.

I like Eve's Missy, but it's so much to ask out of a rookie center to come in and be super impactful. Anybody not named Derek Lively. But even CJ, like, what are you doing? CJ had a phenomenal year last year, but CJ is a weird player for me to kind of get a feel for and the Pelicans fold because it's like... He has to be a six man, I think. I think he has to either get trader to go to the bench. Oh, wow. You have to start.

You can't bench Herb Jones, obviously. No, you cannot. Tray Murphy needs to start. Like, even if you trade Brandon Ingram, you can't start all these. guys. So either C.J. McCollum is also traded, which I'd probably do that, or he buys in a six-man role, which I find unlikely. So I think he has to be traded just as much as Brandon Ingram. Yeah. Do y'all think we far away from a C.J. McCollum buying into the six-man role? I think at this point in his career, I don't know. I generally don't know because, I mean,

you're right. He is on the NBA PA and the Players Association, which is cool. And if he He doesn't. Bear to assume, but. He wears those buttoned up shirts. He's a good guy. If he doesn't, who buys, who's trying to buy him? The Lakers? Huh.

I honestly wouldn't hate that. I mean, probably not because he's kind of a similar. What they would need for him is pretty similar to Dilo. He's like short, a little bit better Dilo. They're very similar players or how they operate. So probably not unless they're trading Dilo for him without. No, no, no, no. No, it wouldn't be the Lakers.

But somebody would probably want him. Yeah. I wouldn't shut the Lakers. They just got a lot of weird stuff going on. Completely. Yeah, for someone like C.J. McCorm, he's not like an immovable contract because he does provide a lot of valuable things still to the game, but it'll be a little bit tricky. But again, like they have C. Brandon Ingram, too, who has a fair amount of value as well. So I don't know. They're in a tricky spot. They're in a spot to where, like, they had a little bit too much going on. And sometimes we hear this saying, like, sometimes less is more. And I think that's exactly what happened on throughout the past year. Yeah. That's why I asked beer. about this. That's your favorite saying?

It's my favorite saying too. Yeah, that's his version of you say of the world. That's his catchphrase. Yeah. That's my favorite saying. This team is the opposite. They got more, more, more. They've never thought about less.

They've never thought about less for a second. For sure. Damn real greedy. Yeah. I don't know, man. This is also another thing where it's like we can sit up here and have a great conversation about the Pelicans. But at the end of the day, no matter what happens, it's going to rely on the health of Zion

Williamson, too. True. Yeah. Yeah. So. So are we feeling like a B for the Pelicans? Yeah, let's give the Pelicans a B. I want to see other moves made, but we can give it a B.

Yeah. If the team stays as currently constructed, I think it's more like a C. That's way too much going on. But it's a nice stepping stone to the next move. Well, yeah, that's more of a grade for the front office. This is a good move to put yourself in position to go and make more moves. Whether or not you make those other moves, that just depends on whether the front office wants to be smarter. Yeah.

Yeah. How y'all feel about Cantavius Colwell Pope signing with the Orlando Magic? It's beautiful. Man, oh man. What a beautiful. That's great. It's like a 95 for me. Yeah, you gotta be right.

Okay, so obviously some guys spent too much time on that. It's an A plus, right? You add one of the best 3D players in the league right now. Do y'all feel like they did enough with their cast base? Because they'd opportunity to do a lot, and it kind of went KCP and then keeping their guys on favorable deals. Is that a good use to cast-based for them, you think? in their eyes yeah in their eyes probably um because i think if you were gonna if you were going to if you were going to like legitimately try and shake something up and you know like they were trying

to get paul george that would have been massive but trying to get an actual point guard in the building that would have been something that was uh you know that was crazy for them but if you are going to come back and just at kCP it's a bet on franz wagner returning to his normal self and you say palo is going to take another jump and franz is at minimum going to get back to what we thought he was a year ago and now we're going to get back to this optimism we're going to have these two big wings we're going to have you know consistent shooting so it's not a i i think that they're also still like very early in their development and in their timeline to where this is a it's a fine move i don't think not bringing in a certain type of player

is a big mistake for them yeah i just got it's obviously like good right they didn't do anything bad they did what they had to do but it felt like they had an opportunity to do something like exceptional and they put themselves in like an okay see type of situation where they have crazy depth and like are really ahead of schedule while their stars are cheap and they didn't they missed that I mean they tried right at the end of the day you had that players want to come to you and they were close to you and Paul george and didn't so his choice decides if we're talking about them as having an amazing off season or just good but it just feels like there could have been something a little bit better but you can't again you can't be mad at the

kCP signing love of kCP I would have been I agree with you Isaac I would have been a little bit more aggressive man if you have that type of money and you got these young guys on these these rookie deals even if it wasn't like and again this is a two-way conversation because people got to want to come there and they got to want to kind of um you know maybe not have a long-term deal but i would i would have did some short-term deals where i'm maybe paying some guys eight or eight or nine million more you know what i would just start just trying shit like yeah buddy hill is there to come play with us. Oh, okay.

Like, we lack three-point shooting. Let's just overpay Buddy Hill on a one-year deal. Come back on yourself here. You know what I mean? And then die at KCP. Let's get both of them. Yeah, let's just get both of them. Hardinstein.

Like, I would have been a lot more aggressive with Hardinstein. And again, I don't know. I can't speak on it. I don't know what they, what they conversations was with him. Or maybe they tried. You know what I mean? Like, but I would just did that short-term deals that are like crazy overpays. And it's like, if it works, we got something.

If we don't, we wipe our hands and he goes right back at the free. DeMarre Rosen is still a guy that's out there. Like, and again, I'm just throwing shit at the wall here. He don't really fit the magic. They could. I would hate that. Yeah. But this, you know, just trying to use, you know, like you said, the advantage of having

these young, young players on a young contract or these rookie contracts when you have so much money, just use it. Just try shit. Why not? Yeah. How do you all feel about, I mean, by signing KCP, obviously they're going to start Sugs. So KCP and Suggs is your back.

court, they're pretty much committing to their style that they've gone on with Palo Van Carroll, right? They're basically saying you're the point guard essentially. In a half court setting, you're going to be the lead playmaker, Franz Wagner, too, another point forward. They're really going to play through these big ball handlers and empower them to develop as playmakers to eventually they can do that full time. Do you all like that? Because I kind of want to see them get a point guard and not try to force Palo Ban Carroll to be, you know, LeBron. I think it's maybe to work and the development will do him well in the long term. But I feel that's a lot responsibility put on him that I think might be better served having a real playmaker next

to him. Who goes to the bench? That's a great question. Well, I mean, I guess I guess the question is more like should they have signed KCP or should they have found a point guard and put Suggs as a two guard long term? I would have signed KCP. I mean, you still got Tias Jones. I think they got to get some type of point guard. That's been my issue with them. They have like these same mold. They have a depth chart of like three type of point guards and none of them. them are like legitimate point guard so yeah go get some type of guard go get tias jones yeah and i don't

know if tias jones is dead set on being a starter but they definitely need some type of point guard yeah they got cole anthony jalen sugs and they had markelle fultz and anthony black you go get somebody yeah that's

a year and a half you are in Orlando magic yeah oh you're ready to speak jailin sucks I like that that's disgusting actually something else that they actually could do something else that they actually could do is we were just talking about them previously if the new warrants pelicans were really were really about it and they threw out cj mcclum out

there if i'm the world orlando magic after paying all these guys me personally i would take a swing on him because why not you have money to spend and ced mccallum although he's not the natural porn guard that you'd want and desire next to paula ben caro he's better than what they have right now just simply because he's a legitimate threat. And I think that he makes them a better team. Now, of course, you sacrifice the defense. Like you said, Isaac, and they kind of have to forfeit some of their identity because we all know CJ is not the defender that they like that they're hell bent in focusing around.

But I think this makes them better as a team. So I think that move could be primed to happen five, six months from now, potentially. Wendale for CJ? Oh, hold on. You're kind of cooking. The money wouldn't work. The money wouldn't work. Yeah, you're going to add some other shit.

those will be the two blood. Yeah. Three team, I need to get another backup big in there. Are you going to start John Isaac at the five full time?

Then Mo Wagner is a backup. Now I'll start Mo. You also got Badatsi, you just signed. Oh yeah, they kept you. Yeah, they got to move somebody right.

They have three centers and John Isaac. Somebody's getting moved for sure. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. I think a C.J. McCollum, and whether it be Moe Wagner or

or Window Carter Jr., one of those moves have to happen and whether it be with the Norris Pellon or the Atlanta Hawks or whoever's going to throw out there, they're going to make a move. I think they're just like being patient, which is never a bad thing. Maybe they can, listen, if Delo gets traded, let's say they do the Jeremy Grant thing.

Obviously, the trailblaj just don't want him. They do window Carter for Delo as their six man. But now, but now Portland. Oh, so where is Windle Carter going to Portland? I don't know, or the Lakers, whatever, whichever one. No, no, my. Portland has a billion big. A billion centers.

A billion centers. try get on that. A billion sentence. Yeah. I can see that. I have a question. Maybe he goes to the Lakers. What's up?

So with this move happening now, Dornado Magic signing KCP, on the other side of it, the Denver Nuggets just lost KCP, of course. How do you guys feel about that? They're rumored to go ahead and replace him with Russell Restwick, but we haven't seen anything finalized us yet.

How do you guys feel about them? I think a lot of these GMs are being cowardly with this whole second apron thing and using it as an excuse to be cheap as fuck and the cronkey should be embarrassed. Damn. should be embarrassed by how they're squandering what could be. Wait, they're the cronkeys?

Yeah, the cronkeys. Yeah, Stan Cronkey. They own a bunch of teams. They own the Nuggets and they should be embarrassed for how they're squandering what could be an elongated run of Yokic's Prime. I agree with Isaac. Darry came out and spoke about the second apron and all of this other stuff and the new CBA rules.

And he was saying, like, to him as a GM, the fun part is to find the Kelly Ubre's like the last year or not figuring out these diamonds in the rough but you got to go get the talent saving money to not you know not getting talent to save money i just don't understand the logic obviously the second abrant is definitely something you got to be cautious of but if you have the team that won a championship you have to spend the money there's no reason to save money when you have an opportunity to go on a championship run with a talent like yoke it so i will i feel like a lot of teams are being scary as hell them and the clippers are just being scary as fuck pretending it's a second april they don't want to open the checkbooks for

long-term money it's ridiculous plus plus the kCP deal wasn't even crazy no it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't even it wasn't even so wild like heartenstein's deal like his deal is like oh wow like that's a that's a lot of money yeah three three for 66 is that's what that's a very normal contract in today's you know day and age and if you are coming off of a season where you were you're defense got cut short game seven you blew a 20 point lead you can run it back and you had a you had a couple you know a couple issues but now last year last year like losing bruce brown you saw how much that hurt Denver because now your bench is depleted and you were relying on these young guys now you're putting these now you're taking those same young guys and saying instead of instead of

you know activating your skill set on the bench come do that in the starting lineup you're putting so much more pressure on them and it's putting you in a much worse position they're playing around and so like i'm i'm looking at the nuggets right now and you think about the power rankings of the west are they are they even top two right now right like are you confident that exactly are you confident that they are one of the elite elite teams that you feel good about going into next year obviously they have yokech and like and like this is doing that but come on now yeah listen some game of matchups end of the day yokech is the biggest matchup you could possibly have to plan around so they can still make something happen and maybe christian brown

surprises us but you know calvin booth likes to talk in the media he does a lot of press conferences he's a confident guy he's a confident guy to say the least in this process he has quite the vibe of like i know what the fuck i'm doing listen to me yeah and so much of what he's saying is cope so much is what he's saying is what he's saying you hear that you can buy into it because of the confidence you think about it for a second and so much is what he's saying is making up for ownership clearly not wanting to spend the money and he's really good at spending it 100% and now

yeah and now now the nuggets are going to be here and all the other teams are going to pass them by okay C got better Memphis is

third Memphis is going to be back the thunder not the thunder the Timberwolves they're going to be back like Dallas has made moves there's a very realistic scenario in my mind

where is Denver like not going to be a top four seed next year like I can I can look at this team right now and it wouldn't be crazy just because of how competitive the West is on a night in the night out basis. And that would be, that would be shocking if they, you know, if they go from winning a title to not have a home court in the first round.

Earlier on Twitter, somebody asked me like which teams I think are better than Lakers. So I did a quick like off top of my head power rankings just based on what we know so far. And I said one Boston, two O KC, three Dallas, four Timberwolves, five Memphis and six nuggets. I don't think that's crazy They're located right on paper Listen in the playoff setting

I don't want to face Yokic So I think no He wouldn't be a first one next Or nothing like that But on paper for a regular season I think it might be the fifth best team In the conference right now Arguably

Yeah The greatest thing for them Is that the Warriors Ain't on shit So you can kind of subtract them For the mix And the suns and the clippers Are obviously money laundering

So like It's just a whole bunch of incompetence around them That's tough Tough man Tough scene Hey, shout out Memphis. Memphis is people, I hope people understand right now that Memphis is going to be really, really good next year. And it's been a while since we've seen a healthy John Moran.

Understand, John Moran is going to come back and he's going to be, he's going to be awesome. He's going to be amazing. So I'm a little salty for them, though, man, because I wanted them to get Claxton. No, for Memphis. I wanted them to get Claxton. He went back to Brooklyn. Okay, get your money. Then I wanted them to get clinging.

They couldn't trade up. They had to settle for Edie or not. which I did not like, but Memphis is going to be even. Uh-oh. I have all the Eustalk in the world. I love the fit. I can't wait.

I'm going to buy an Edy jersey at this point. Damn. You are talking to the number of you guys are on the internet right now. You messed up. Edy at 9 was too much for me. But they were just different scenarios where they could have been even better. And that would have just been good for the West Chicago. It's just funny because the Nuggets,

they're going to do whatever they're going to do. You have to respect them because they have yokeets. And they still have a nice little four-sum. that's starting lineup but the conversation is probably going to be they're a piece away they're a piece away yeah which is hilarious because they had the best five-man unit in the fucking league it's crazy it's just embarrassing man just squandering one of the best players probably the best player they'll ever have in their franchise of history in his prime it's ridiculous it'd be billionaire trying to save a book that's sad and i like him i like him man i like him but it's just too much pressure

like you said mo it's or donovan said that it's too much pressure for him Yeah. I like Julian Strother's game. What the fuck does he know about playoff minutes? Like, it's not going to be fun. It's good. It's tough.

I've seen some of his songs. It's not going to be fun. I can go ahead and show you five minutes of Payne Watson play and you'll be all right. Oh my God. You mean Jared Vanderbilt? Let's talk about a better team. Let's talk about the OKC Thunder.

Let's kind of looping together the Hartenstein signing and the Caruso trade. They're both A's, right? They won the whole season, bro. A plus ones. No picks. They have the most picks to give up the rest of the league and everybody in the world knows that they have 40 picks that they can offer.

And they did not have to give up a single one of them to get Alex Caruso and Hardinstein. They fixed all the holes that they had. They got Josh Giddy up out the paint and they got a backup big and no picks had to be spared. San Presti put on a master class this offseason. They're amazing.

and they are they are 100% the favorites going into next year to come about the west yeah we've talked about the crusoe trade a little bit so i don't stop explanatory right you move giddy and don't give up a pick your absolute masterclass you don't feel about heartenstein because i think he'll probably end up being the backup big and if not he'll be like a 28 minute game starter if they decide to start him for politics and on the surface 29 million dollars years a lot to give up for a six man but they're in a very rare circumstance where the two stars on a rookie deal so they can afford to overpay for an elite player like that. Do you guys like that? Do you like the asset allocation of spending the money on

a big? Yes. Me personally, yes. Absolutely. I do. The other options were what? Go get Kyle Kuzmer or something, some type of wing, some type of person that was going to get in a way of Shay and J-dub. So it's like, yeah, go get it. But again, I hope they don't fall into the politics the feeling like they have to start iHeart because the superpowers of chet is at the five so 100% let's let's keep it that way the caruso thing this team may not only be the favorite to come out of the west they may be the favorite to win the championship what's their what's the flaw not only do you do those moves you then also do the right thing of doubling down on your talent in Isaiah Joe and Aaron wiggins where you probably could have got a little Hollywood you could

probably just withered them away and said buddy he'll come over here but it's like no we got familiarity we got vibes we got chemistry we got a young swagger they double down on shit they didn't trade any of the picks so if any of this shit does go wrong if they if they do say hey you know what we didn't like Isaiah hardinstein as much as we thought now seeing on the floor all you have to do is say here go here go two picks and somebody take this 29 million dollars they will not have a fuck up in the next five years because they have not used any of those picks then on top of that they went and drafted Nicola Topich at 12 who was a projected top three pick before his injury and now he's getting a red shirt year to just sit over there exactly like they just they can't

they do no wrong and I'm just mad that they're so good at what they doing I'm jealous I'm jealous of the competency like what do you mean you draft a good giddy and you can give them a year to develop and get hell healthy like it's it's crazy they're so good it just pisses me off shout out to the thunder man shout out to the thunder I love the heart they run away because like you said, Chet needs to be the five and people have long said put him with the four

and I think that's just like a misunderstanding if it makes him great but you know we've also said they need a four to put next to him but they have so much

versatility now where they can spend like 20 minutes of just Chet out there as the five and no other big 12 minutes of them together doing the double big thing

with the Twin Towers 15 minutes of just Hartenstein you have so much variability to how you can play and so many different looks that if they had that option when they're playing

the Dallas Mavericks and we're able to go big at sometimes to throw them off We're able to go four out one in or Hardenstein to give them a different look and not be so consistent with what they can do with the one note version of offense they played before. Listen, there might be a different team in the finals. Yeah. Yeah, I actually agree.

Like, who knows if they would have won the finals, but I agree that they probably would have been there. Not because, like, Isaiah Hardinstein makes the world's difference. It's the effect that he has on Chet, Jdub, and even how he can use his non-spacing abilities in smart ways and not be just. taking up so much space and eating up just pointless space on the court he's one of those smart players and he showcased all that with the new york nix over the playoffs so this is this is an a plus move across the board row their biggest need was to not have jaylm williams minutes in the playoffs as a center and they address that he can be the power forward in some lineups next to him he's not an unuseful player but he should not be your backup five against against serious teams

he's great for the vibes all that bargain that i'd be doing needed room presence and the end they have case in wallace too we don't even mention case and wallace oh my gosh i remember i said uh i was on brother they have they have they're so good man i was talking about how they had the potential to develop into being the new version of the celtics with their two star perimeter players and all the guys around them like they fit the description of how they won i was like listen things will change real quickly once case and wallops takes case and wallace takes a second and third year leap and becomes their fucking derrick white like Derek White.

Things are going to look really different. Yeah. You're right. They got two perimeter demons. Case of Walas is right there developing and training. And then they got their big white man who's just an unendiable force on both ends of the court. That's a move right. This is such a quick segment on them because all we can say is, man, these guys are motherfucking good.

I love for us. I'm so mad the rest of the NBA ain't doing shit. Y'all let them get him for giddy. It's embarrassing, bro. they gave the next five second round picks to move up a couple spots and then the bulls couldn't get nothing but giddy now that's again the bulls are dumbish I know they didn't do a bidding war I know they didn't look around after that they just took the first deal offered to them like they're dumb as shit that's what I'm saying this is the the crusoe deal it's more about how bad the bulls are rather rather than like how good the thunder are like shout out to press you for getting it done for being the one to pick up the phone but the bulls they scan themselves they did This new regime is worse than Gar-Pax, I think. They're horrible.

They're low-key, low-key, yeah. Lo-key. I forget. What's the GM's name I forget? Ak. Arkani's-sovis? Yeah, whatever. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm trying to butcher it. But yeah. Listen. You know, we're being in front of Rob-Pilika for being. Rob-Polink is really bad at making trades, right? It's not a secret that other GMs are league don't fuck with him. Not a real competent GM with trade doing. He's the opposite of San Presti.

You have AC and Rob Polinka in a call. that must be hilarious. Take that tweet where it's like it's always two dumb bitches saying yas to each other

just gas each other just nonsense pray for Chicago Bulls man, pray for the Chicago Bulls and they got modest at least though

that's like a bright spot shout out to modest I love that pick yeah absolutely but again you can't even

get on that much credit because he just failed there ain't like they pull some strings they just got lucky that front office got to go he probably picked him because he's Lithuanian

I bet that's why I probably wasn't even good process he's probably gonna it was probably the worst reason ever that he lucked him to a good decision yeah that and he has ties to Illinois he got to be our guy for sure they always got to keep a couple of those guys on the roster

definitely anyway let's talk about another team that's a bit down bad let's talk about the Golden State Warriors oh man obviously obviously they lost Clay Thompson end of an era gonna feel weird as shit How do you all feel about the way they've reloaded around that?

Because, you know, they got Kyle Anderson, they got De Anthony Melton, and they might soon have Buddy Healed win. It was probably going to be a sign-in-tray for some second-round picks. We'll grade those moves in totality. So right now, correct me if we're wrong, y'all. Their projected starting lineup is Steph, Pods, Zer, Moody, depends on if you feel, Wiggins, Dre, and T-J-D or Looney. Probably start Cominga and Dremonet at Center.

comming and dream on center i like that a little bit more is that a top i don't like either one nine 10 team in the west it might be ninth or 10th you really would need a crazy stuff a year again which at this point is just it's getting unfair to continue to accent and play at this level but even then i don't you got to listen 36 37 year olds put a 40 a game yeah they're not a scenario where they can be great but do you guys feel like they did the best they could moving around the margins after losing clay like are the moves individually like making the best of a situation yeah yeah like they probably couldn't do much better right we'll see there's been some noise about them potentially you know you know making some type of

wild deal to to go get uh to go get larry that's probably that's probably not going to happen but i i as you know is like we had a conversation the other day about like what what do the warriors do over the last couple like you know good step years do you end up being you know just like 2014 through 2016 Kobe and I was telling you all like hey if I'm step I'm just going to write it out I saw these moves and I was like step get out it's it's how to do you like you don't you don't have you don't have to deal with this anymore because you tell me you didn't see Kyle Anderson walking through the doors and that wasn't appetizing to you I saw that and I actively was like he needs to leave now like it because i they're fine right they are they're

good for what the situation is but they are not going to they might miss the play in next year houston is going to be better san antonio is going to be better memphis again is going to be back in the mix and you go down all of these um you go down the list of all these teams and they're probably going to be you know fighting with the clippers sacrales Sacramento, Phoenix, and at the bare minimum, at least those teams have a little bit more talent than what the Warriors do. It's going to be Steph versus KD and Booker. It's going to be Steph versus Kauai and James. I don't, I have very little hope for what the Warriors can put on the floor next year unless three guys take massive leaps. And if they're just going to

have an unprecedented season, by all means, I want to see it. But it's probably not going to happened. Yeah, they're going to be bad, man. They're going to be bad. I do like some of the signers, though. I mean, the D. Anthony Meldon, I thought he was a good gift for the one-year deal. Kyle Anderson, he's a good basketball player, I guess. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I really love Kyle Anderson. I'm a big Cal Anderson fan. But I'm saying in the context for the Warriors, it's like, I get, like, you know what I mean? Dremaun kind of does the same thing. You want Kaminga to start doing the same thing. I just hate that they never go out and commit to size like bro go get somebody that's seven foot please my goodness they all of these small

ass dudes go get somebody but yeah i i don't love the i love the difference in tone because you and like you're all of numbers on the board you guys are a lot more respectful than we are you guys are yeah we are we're very good at uh you know operating a certain way not talking about players a certain way you know you don't try you try to slander people yeah don't man was like, I immediately was like, get the fuck out of here. The difference in tone is hilarious. I love where he was going at first, because I feel the same way. Like, Steph don't leave.

Like, you know what I mean? I know it's bad. Yeah. There's nothing he can go get anywhere else that's going to make me value his legacy anymore. If he requested a trade and went to the, like, Derek was like, man, he should leave. And we're like, where? Go to Miami. And do what?

He might as well just stay in San Francisco. You know, he's big in a community. He got a family. his wife is like known like just stay in the bay and do your thing but like where could he go that's just like oh man that's perfect for stuff you might as well stay there any of these young teams you have to eight first round picks you're telling me the words be like nah I'm good yeah I think the warriors say no I'm good only only because you don't want to be known as a team that traded Steph Curry to the fucking thunder after losing clay too like you don't want to do both

of them. Yeah. And then Steph is going to go over there and win three championships. We talked about how the Lakers aren't competent and have been just doing a masterclass of terrible front office maneuvers for a while. We don't give, I mean, Twitter has, so I'll say that, but I think collectively the media does not give the Warriors Front Office enough slack for the fact that they turned Jordan Poole and then Chris Paul and Clay Thompson's contracts. It's a lot of tradable assets into jack shit, like a couple second round picks. They did, so little with what they could have done at the deadline because they decided to run it back terrible asset management all around like it's really horrible uh your think your might cut

up here i think i think we give them a little bit of a leeway because it's like draymond kind of forced them into those situations yeah i guess i guess but like that would be my only defense for them maybe nobody wanted cp3 but they're not doing anything with that contract and lose that salary slot is so crazy they tried and they did the smart thing they called the bulls but luckily the bulls is like they was like we're in doubt call the bulls we dumb but we ain't that dumb i just hate terrible asset management that's what annoysing the most like we talked about during the draft like the saloon pick for the hornets i'm like cool fine if you want to take a bet on him but like trade back a little bit like i hate one team just don't take advantage of the opportunities they

have to like maximize assets the clippers you don't want to send them to the warriors out of spite fine but to not get those assets back and lose poe george for nothing moronic and that's that's what the warriors have been on it's just been terrible asset management that was that was throughout the draft so much shoot that was my biggest thing with the edie edie would have been there later trade back ron holland would have been there later you know what i mean yeah but at least the hornets they said that the spurs are going to take them at eight if they swap with the grizzlies so at that point you have to take your guy but there was a lot of a lot of drafting where i was like you could have got him if you trade it back though yeah well let's talk about chris paul what did you grade him

going to the spurs and this is an a plus this is about chris paul this is it's it's an a plus i think i yeah i said on the stream like one if there's one thing about chris paul if he's not going to go ahead and win a ring go ahead one of the greatest accomplishment of his career will be like Yo, I help set the blueprint for guys like Wembe, Stefan Castle, Devin Vassell, I gave them the blueprint to be professional and how to win at a high level in this league. This is A plus for him. What a way to go out.

I didn't get $11 million. No, nobody else is getting him that shit. Yeah, true. That is very true. I didn't realize it was that much. Damn. Yeah, you got a bag. One year, 11 million.

This is an A plus 100 for him. This is where he's at his best. Like, this is more valuable for him than ring chasing. Because his voice does not carry the same weight in those other locker rooms versus when it's on younger team. When he, his, my favorite years is him with OKC, him with the Young Hornets in his younger days, him when he first got to the Clippers before they all became stars. Like those are Chris Paul's best moments versus like on these veteran led teams and he starts to annoy the other players. Like James Hart, that ran out so fast because it's like, yo, I'm James. Harden. I know what the fuck I'm doing.

Go here with these young guys who don't know what they're doing. Clear you don't. I always call Chris Paul major pain. James Harden is not type of body unless the major pain. The spurs young guys are. Clearly you don't is. That is hilarious. But yeah, I just like Chris Paul in these situations more than like teaming up with a James

Hardin. Yeah. Stefan Castle tells everybody that I'll listen that he's a point guard. and he also tells everybody that I'll listen that he wants to be Shea That's what he models game after Listen Chris Paul helped the first Shee he can help the second one He can help him teach him ready to draw that right This is very very oh and the sons

I keep forgetting Chris Paul with the sons We saw them go That might be my favorite Chris Paul year That was such a great team Yeah it was it really was And he was such the missing piece You can they start Chris Paul

He's such a They have nothing Yeah I do It doesn't matter which person they go yeah he's such a culture center yeah yeah i think we're going to see this spurs team go ahead and like win 35 potentially like 40 games next year in this like blood bath of a west judge goes as well i think yeah i agree i agree we're going to give you the number one pick again yeah right that's awesome that is that is awesome but yeah no they should start they

should start and finish every game with somebody who can get wemby an entry pass who can throw Wemby a lob like I've been thinking about these these like Chris Paul when be picking rolls and just like Chris Paul snaking around into the elbow jumper and throwing throwing you know a lob six feet over over the rim to Wembe it's going to be this again listen they're still going to be the spurs like they're not going to win a championship but you're going to have a lot of those moments where it's like okay this is this is really fun though so look at this play it's going to be good look at this play like Helen Johnson on top of the key and he hits this lob on the back cut they're doing this 20 times a game it's just gonna be the spurs off

100% 100% I just don't understand why wimby can't over the course of his career be a 30 point score he can get oh he will for sure 12 points a game just by doing that yeah uh I feel like it's gonna look like it's gonna look like 80s and 90s basketball where the point guard just runs down the court and just throws it into the post of the one guy like john stockman when he's fucking 45 getting 12 assists a game just one hand dribble toss it into the post that's what you're sky hook let's get wimby the sky hook man if he he can get the sky hook he's unstoppable oh that'd be so disgusting no no no no no you know what actually no let's get winby let's first let's get him to just dunk just catch it and turn it over all away from the basket shit i'm done with i want to see him

just dunk the ball from the elbow yeah just like that just like that it's a cat call what the hell I don't like this right now, Pierre. The video is wild. That's crazy. Yeah. I see what he's doing and then I hear that I see what he's doing and then I hear that I've been a nasty girl song on my head. I'm like, what is going on? What is going on right now?

I'm getting uncomfortable. That song is stuck in my head the last couple of days too. Oh, man. Somebody screen record that and put Pierre doing that too nasty girl. I need to see that on my Twitter. I've been a nasty girl. We have a 14-year-olds that do edits. for us. Someone's going to do that.

They sent us some crazy edits. They send us some crazy edits. They're going to make that for you. See, that's why social That's the dark part of social media. You got pros and cons. And they work so fast, too. As soon as they see that, they're going to do it. And we have the most immature fans in the world.

Like, it's comical how immature they are. So they're going to do it. I can't judge. I'm immature, too. I still be saying, pause. D.M.O. said something about somebody like, man, he's a big ball handler. We was like, big ball hand.

I know, that's all we do. That is all we do. Jump-sized ball handler. We were at the top line making dick jokes the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, all of the rookies was like, yo, chill, chill, chill, chill. We made Rob Dillingham so uncomfortable. It was hilarious.

What did y'all say? I don't know if you saw. I had him react to those hair swaps of the different players. So I like like a brawny ball and everybody. And I've prefaced it like, I want you to rate from one to 10 how good it looks I met how well the haircut fits them and he was like hey yo how good how good did y'all just see Justin Edwards they was making them put together the perfect player and it was like looks and Justin Edwards was like Jason Tatum no home no pause or whatever and I was like

you can't you might as well not say his name if you're going to say that you don't say the you can't you can't it's too late who means him do that real quick uh i think that was bleach report okay nice interesting yeah lips or zipped yeah interesting all i'm ready to lead we have one more big big move to talk about i say the best for last how do you all feel about to buy his hair to the pistons listen shout out detroit wow shout out shout out detroit this is something that we call again this is not about detroit this moment right here should be career defining for Tobias

age for Tobias Harris agent in what world does he earn $52 million over the course of two years

with what he just did in Philadelphia that is his daughter it's crazy got $300 million in NBA money man what one of the best

bad days of all time that's honestly hilarious I love that for him is he long money than KCP is he the Kirk Cousins of the NFL because Kirk Cousins

yes listen Kirk Cuckins begin paid. That's a great comparison. This is like cost while they're getting paid. This is even more funny. Kirk Cousins is like solid.

Like Kirk Cousins is like, I know you had to football bag like that Isaac, okay. They into it. Them too right there. They're into it all. I like that. Okay.

Okay. Yeah, Kirk Couss is like, I don't know, Deeran Fox. Like, he's still a good player. Tobias Air is going to is this crazy. That's true. The shout on to finding a market for a young team that needs them.

That's what I'm saying. It's just supply. lie in demand. Exactly. The pistons have no shooters. So Tobias Harris goes over there. He looks like Steph Curry. He looks like, you know, he looks like Clay Thompson.

And you have, they have nobody on that team. It's crazy. They were so desperate. They had to go out and say, Tim Hardaway, Jr., please be one of our shooters. Like, it's Tim, it's Tim, it's Kay Cunningham on a fast break. And he has Tim Hardaway Jr. And Tobias Harris on the wings that he's passing out to. They are in the trenches.

This is what they're about. They all was happy to go over there too I think I've seen Tim Hardaway's tweet When he got traded like bad boy Pistin something I'm like oh man it's bad out here It is bad out here If Tim Hardaway's dad is any indication

How Junior is feeling He's happy to go anywhere that's not Dallas Oh yeah Yeah OG Tim Hardaway was like We're ready to get the fuck out of here Let's go That bad hated Nico Harrison He was ready to leave

God knows how he knows about Jason kid oh my gosh for no reason oh my goodness nasty nasty stuff well man that's all the deals we had a grade today so that's the end of this section and pier that's the end of our time with you we appreciate you coming on man i appreciate y'all man we did a lot of good grading shout out to those nicks though shout out to those nicks you're gonna be a real good year i see you at the parade yeah what you want to drink i got listen listen i'm a henny drinker myself anything is possible let's go Let's go. I got you.

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You guys are really fucking with it Make sure check that out And we're gonna start with something Real funny today I have a tier list for you guys And this is a tier list Of 14 Or something like that

Actually I think it's 12 of my favorite MBA quotes Woo! Okay That's hilarious So these range There's a lot of different types of quotes here But we're gonna put them

a tier list. You can judge however you want, rank them in whatever standard you want, but we're going to put these famous NBA quotes into a tier list. Talk to me. What's first? The first one on the list, we have LeBron James saying Cleveland, this is for you after winning the 2016 championship. This is an S tier. This is what every superstar player wants to have. They want this moment. Jason Tatum, when he said, we did it, he was trying to go for that type of moment. Yeah. S tier. Yeah, Jason Tatum, Steph Curry, all them, constantly fishing for clips, and they want this exact thing in their legacy.

Was LeBron not fishing for a clip? Was he not trying to do what Kevin Garnet had did? No. Man, that was pure emotion. We're not going to say, okay, I'm just, okay, I'm just saying. I'm just saying different standards. That's fine. KG did it first.

KG did it first. So listen, if somebody's got to be the OG, everybody else is baiting. I get it. Yeah, man. It's still S-tier, but I'm watching. listen LeBron knows what he's doing he's probably baiting too

but it was good bait there's a difference between good bait and missed shots yeah yeah that's true if it was if it was really bait

if it was really bait those acting skills for LeBron James since he's had movie history really kicked in right there in that moment he was on that

his space jam listen he was great in train like that's not slander one of those movies let's realize that was a great movie to me next quote

We got Anthony Edwards, send a video. Listen, this is S-tier funny. You can't use it a lot. You can't use it a lot. You can only use it in specific situations, right? So you can't, it's not versatile. Listen, if you know, you know, but. You can't say that as if you do it all the time.

Listen. You know, we have to talk about that. I'll put it in A, though. It's very funny. Oh, yeah. This has to be A. You can take the, you can take Anthony Edwards out of live, but you can't take the head out of him. This is A.

I don't, I don't condone, but it was hilarious and he was being the truest form of himself. Okay. What about Michael Jordan on The Last Dance saying, and I took that personally? There's also, Esther. This made, this made watching 20 hours of footage worth it, just because we got that one moment of Michael Jordan being like yeah I took it personally he's like he didn't open the door for me personal it's like every every exactly every small thing was personal to him everything that we once thought Michael Jordan he just confirmed with this it was just like oh yeah

this guy is a psychopath this guy will find a ship on a shoulder for anything all the aura just went up because we knew oh he's confirming he's insane and for that that's why me personally I would go ahead and give this a D he needs therapy he needs help he was like 52 53 acting like this still feeling those same emotions that happened 30 years ago why get a light you have two kids oh my god why is there still standing between him and Isaiah

Thomas till this day like 60 this old man in the park is that that video he's a bum he's a bit of bomb since 86 30 years I've been brushing his ass that's exactly how they are

oh my goodness I feel so bad for that other dude because I've seen multiple videos of them he's never getting a bucket he's always getting scored off like he's always going to have four decades to prepare watch Phil right do some drills

I could put some cones out there for you get better at a certain point it's a skill issue for him it's tough Mo says D Donovan you still want to go S I'm still going to S it's hilarious I will set off

video which you guys right in the middle there you go we got Kobe Bryant saying but are you a different animal and the same beast oh from a commercial with Kanye this is hard this is hard behind it the mystique behind that this is my favorite piece of nonsense I've ever heard in my life I don't know what it means but it came out of Kobe's mouth put this in S it's provocative I'm putting an S dear yes it's hilarious I love it I catch from saying this like a decade later for no reason. It's, it's amazing. It's worth it.

I feel like I'm levitating. But are you a different animal and the same beast? Like, you know, it's so good. The delivery's perfect. Exactly. No one could say it but Kobe. Yeah, exactly. It's such a Kobe line. It was so well written. Whoever cast of this commercial was in their back. I bet you Jason Tatum is going to get that tattered on him one day. Oh, hell no.

You just catch it straight What are you a different animal And the same animal It's great What I'm Matt Barnes saying Violence is never the answer But sometimes it is One of the realest quotes of all time

Exactly He's so real Not all lie Yeah this might be an A or ass What are y'all lean in? Probably A It's good It's real good

What was the context behind this? I'm talking about Derek Fisher Which we're going to go to get into the context of that situation. But he was being real. I'll tell you that. For the kids. I'll go ahead. Yeah, I go ahead.

He is actually right. I'd put it in a. Okay. A it is. Again, quintessential Matt Barnes. Just like the Michael Jordan one, it confirmed everything we once knew about him. It's all true.

I agree. I what about Kevin Durant saying, Scarlett, I will drink your bath water. new tear new tier you got to put in age this is just horny this is just horny you know what I'm saying relax all right take a cold shower go for a right you're doing this on the timeline in front of everybody else you have millions of followers Kevin why are you showing out like this relax you're Kevin the rant there's nobody on earth like

realistically speaking who is unreachable you were at you were towards the prime of your career. Number two overall picking the NBA and you're shooting your shot like this? Drinking bath water? Stand up. Stand up. We can't post anymore. But now we can't tweet.

Now we can't be real on the timeline. That's the one thing. That's the one thing. All the other quotes that we're talking about here is the quintessential version of that person. Kevin Wright, he's just a guy, right? He just wants to be a dude. Guys be a dude.

What's wrong with this? Exactly. Exactly. So I mean, for that, for that reason. This is a dude who was at a club posting up and practice in this form shot. you're right we'll go see we gotta balance the horniness and the realness see it is what about the paul george saying if you look at the box score we won this game in a game that they lost yeah you dummy like what does that mean what is this come on okay c blazer series or

what i don't remember when he said it i think it was in the pacer's which paul george is worse It's like this one He's like It's a bad shot You know like You're going home I'm going F on this one Because he thought it was a bar

This was supposed to be like One of those manufactured moments Where he thought he was getting on that podium And he was saying some shit That everyone quotes and makes graphics from And everyone's like oh way That actually makes no sense And it's not funny

He said at the end of the day The day gonna end Hmm Like he thought He thought he was getting He thought that was gonna happen With that one But I'm not a rapper

I'm not a rapper I think you Paul George is so sassy for that, bro I think you missed eyes like these It's so good Good. Oh my God.

What about Jared Allen saying? The lights were brighter than we expected. It's Esther. This is Esther. You have, he has provided NBA Twitter with the meme that we can always go to. Anytime anybody fails. Right, right up there. You are Jared Allen.

Yeah. Outside, outside of the NBA. Listen, you, you're working in any other department. You didn't do your job. Lights were too bright. It's so, it's so versatile. how exactly you can use anywhere if you're driving and you're trying to make a left turn in yellow and you're in the middle of the lane and you just freeze hesitate the lights are too bright in

that instance right there you see a pretty girl who you like and she just walks to the elevator lights are too bright bro for that moment you don't have it in you applicable everywhere and shout out jerry down for visualizing a force forever it's great why would he say this you got to know you have to know though people are going to have this against you moments You're right. People think he's a, you're right. Exactly.

And what about C. Jim McCollum saying, I'm trying, Jennifer? That was hilarious, bro. That was very funny. That's a solid me.

That was a funny-ass moment. What did Jennifer say to him? She was like, try to win some games or some shit. She was saying they need to do better. Why aren't you winning championships? And he's like, damn,

I'm trying. Yeah, it's hard. That's just real. That's just real. Have you seen Kevin Coralette? I can't guard him I'll put that in B

Yeah, I'll put it in B Yeah, that's just real DJ McCollum's hilarious I what about Paul Pierce saying I'm tired of getting a taste of him I want the whole load Wow Wow

He said this on TV Yes Live live TV Unlike ESPN back when Back when he had those days You see his suit You know he's working for ESPN Yeah pre-scandal

exactly wow and that wasn't even a scandal exactly that wasn't even a scandal just guys just guys being guys dudes being dudes you know guys can't be dudes no more it was just chilling it's fascism why can't you just talk normally when he comes to talking basketball why can't I invite who I want to at my house where I pay the mortgage why does why does ESPN feel like they need to jump in right I was off the clock right I'm not punched in this is that's messed up he should have called HR that's a violation oh man well where are we going with the whole load quote I don't know you can relate Mo I don't know why you're over there

I can all coy Mo does like I've never said anything crazy like he does wish for it a lot podcasting life obviously he hates getting a sneak peek whoa that's crazy no I do not that is crazy I think this belongs in D we haven't had a D tier just yet so okay it's important embarrassing but it's not as moronic as the paul george quote so we can go d yeah the paul george short was quote was genuinely like embarrassing yeah all right what about from coby friends can come and go but banners hang forever see from coby from coby that's s tier right for everybody else

you're doing too much because you don't have the five rings right this people people will say this and it's just a kid on JV who gets no playing time like that's that's the difference so I'm gonna put it in this tier though just because Kobe said it Glaze

okay we can do that so we're doing all this next one we have Dremong Green one of our favorite quotes oh where's that I forgot to write down what's the exact verbating what he said

when he said to Paul Pierce he was Oh, they don't love you like Kobe loves you. Yeah. He was like, you get a farewell tour. They don't love you like that. You're not Kobe. Yeah.

Oh, me personally, I want to put this in S tier. This is, this is, listen, Draymond Green says a lot of shit. Some of it hits, some of the misses. Podcast Mike in front of him. He has, he's a volume shooter of shit talk. This is his grace achievement. This is his Mona Lisa. This is some of the best shit talk I've ever heard.

To say this, exactly to Paul Pierce must cut so deep. he read him it was perfect this is easiest here exactly the truth hurts and and draymond knew exactly what to say so yes that's exactly he pushed the perfect button because they in fact don't love him like that paul pierce said this is my farewell tour and it was crickets what do you say on the clippers nothing you just be quiet you just to be quiet maybe he is right if someone said that to me i'd retire right then and there i just walk out bro here's my jersey last one we got paul george talking to taylor rooks saying mark my words i'm a be on my bully this season i have to bully in year 15 now listen he was talking to taylor rooks so we heard jill

brown said that he was going to win five rings in like a year or so like that they talk to her they say the most of landish shit it's not it's not her fault but they be lying to her to her face to her face they get up there and just talk this This is also embarrassing. What have you been doing for the last decade? I've been talking mess for a decade. You haven't bullied once. What are you doing?

The delivery is so funny. Like, I'm gonna be on my bully shit. Okay. And he follows up. I have to bully. It's so funny. He's like,

I must bully. Get out of here. I cannot help it. I must bully. It is required. It was so robotic. It was so unspoved. It was hilarious.

Get out of here. try to get a bar off that's hilarious they're all trying to get bars off man you know it's my favorite quote that didn't make it here so applicable everywhere too i think it happened two years ago when kairi irving was traded to the dallas mavericks of course lakers rumors are around and lebron just tweeted maybe it's me maybe it's me it's so funny oh man that was so classic maybe it's me I love that one Next thing we're going to do We're going to run back

A basketball topic That we did a while ago I'm going to name some NBA players And I want you tell me If you think they're going to be remembered As a superstar, a legend Or just a guy So we're talking about

How NBA history is going to remember these guys Shout out to the guys, man I remember the guys More than the Stars and the Legends Shout out to the guys Yeah, this league wouldn't exist Without the guys Not everybody can be a superstar

Not everybody can be a legend How good of a guy can you be if you're still here comments shout out to the guys exactly shout up to the woes that's great I drink some water I just hit the shit out of my tooth in my waterfall

god damn right first thing Carmelo Anthony legend superstar or just a guy he's not a legend can be a legend sorry I see he has a lot of aura

he has a lot of allure for being so skilled now is he's legend status as like a quality of a player probably not but i think he might be remembered that way by a lot of people yeah i don't i don't think carmel is going to be viewed as like suit he's not one of like the top like 10 15 even 20 you know best players of all time it really is like a specific moment specific era of people that are like no carmello is this this and this even if the numbers don't don't match up so he definitely is like a legendary player yeah i think he's kind of okay ellen irison range where like the dog level and aura level is greater than the

realistic, you know, on-paper resume? Yeah, but even then, like, he's never had a moment like Alan Iverson at his peak. That's what I agree. But I understand the aura. Yeah, yeah. We're talking about how history's going to remember him. I think history will think about him fondly. True. History be lying. They always lie.

Next day. Russell Westbrook. Oh, no, this guy's the superstar. He's going to be remembered as. a superstar you have an MVP of the league MVP of the league in that that alone solidifies you as like one of those guys now people like you are going to say that he's just a legend but no he's a superstar because you be hating legend legend is above superstar what yeah so it's legend do not understand the assignment oh no i thought it was backwards legend is like top the best second best is superstar oh because it was like one two three so i thought like superstar was one then it was

legend then it was just a guy no it's three to one legend is the best like you're one of the greatest players of all time you're a legend in the game superstars you're very good in your time and just the guy is like yeah comprehension what do you mean i read the title slide the title slide said superstar legend just a guy and we're at one two three what do you mean comprehension we've done this before what do you mean don't blame my typo what you mean Legend, superstar, or just a guy? That's not on me. That's not on me.

I'm not taking it. I'm not taking that. I'm just, I'm not. He doesn't about if you take it or not. We all understood the assignment. I'm not doing that. You guys will get me at the post-game press conference. I'm going to speak my truth.

You guys will hear you. He's definitely a superstar, MVP, one of the best players in league for a long time. Do you think that Mr. Triple double title gives him legend status? Is he going to be remembered like that? Yes. I do. Without a doubt. that could age with the storyline.

Yeah, the storyline of Katie leaving him and him dragging the Oklahoma City Thunder with a bonus on his team. Who was a rookie sophomore, Oladipa before his burst. Jeremy, not Jeremy Grant, my bad, but Andre Roberson, Kyle Singler,

Ennis Cantor, Stephen Adams, zero spacing, one of the worst-based teams in the modern NBA at that point in time, I think he's a legend. Yeah. I think it's kind of like mellow. He should just be a superstar based on quality,

but when decades from now, when kids look back and look at Bassel reference and they see these ridiculous box score stats they're not going to know about all the narratives that were attached to that and all the inefficiencies the turnovers, the lack of spacing all that they're just going to see absurd triple doubles every year and I think he's going to remember really well

100%. And they're going to see the heart, the passion, the grit, the soul that he pours out. He is Mr. O'KC. All right, get off the ground. Next one, Tony Parker. Huh. This is interesting.

Tony Parker is the quintessential person to where it's like, for Spurs fans, he's a legend. For everybody else, exactly. For everybody else, he's Tony Parker. Like, he's cool, right? But he's not crazy. But for Spurs, they would ride and die about Tony Parker. 100%. I think he's just a guy, but he's one of the best guys of all time.

You can't always have superstars across your roster. You have the legend in Tim Duncan. You need some really high quality just the guys next to him. and this guy for 15 years was the most reliable guy you can imagine. That's so tough to think about Tony Parker as just a guy because he was such an important guy

but then again, like he was... Some guys be essential. It is what it is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Exactly. And he was never like the cornerstone guy. He was never the guy. So I get that makes sense. Yeah, you can't really be a superstar for never like a top 10 or even maybe not top 15 player in the league. All right. Yeah.

We'll go, we'll go just a guy. Does he have a finals MVP to his name? He does. He does. Shout out 20. He's definitely one of the worst finals MVP for sure. She met a guy, a better guy. Next one.

Rudy Gobert. I would like to remove myself from this conversation as I am clearly biased in a certain way. Man, let the hate flow. We need it. Bring the energy. Just let it go. Man, this guy, he's just a guy. He's just a guy.

the guy. So he's definitely good enough to be like a member as a star. He might be legendary. History does not remember defense. I'll tell you that. The average fan does not give a fuck about defense. They're going to look back decades from now and be like, what do you mean this guy average 12 points a game?

Get this bum out of here. The casuals are not going to remember him in 20 years. He might be a legend though. He might be the worst DPOY ever. He's going to be the most fraudulent DPOY ever. I'm playing. I'm playing. I'll play to play to play.

I'll play to play it. I had to go there one time. But no, he's fine He's fine That's a best you can muster France loves him Maybe Legendary France player

He's one of the best guys I wonder how they feel about him over there Like do they do they really Do the French really rock with Rudy I need to know Where do you go bear Do we have to go to Paris to find out Do we have to do street interviews in Paris

Going to Paris for the exclusive reason Of asking what the thoughts of Mugbert is disgusting work somebody has to trip that out making a heartbeat exactly right next player we'll figure it out Donovan Mitchell

unfortunately at this point in time of his career he's not a guy I think he's a superstar no he's just a guy he's a superstar level talent but he only has one all NBA team right now I think

and that's insane because the guards are just so stacked in the NBA that he's overshadowed so he might be just a guy but he's definitely good enough to be a superstar exactly He's good enough, but, I mean, it's like, and again, no disrespect, but DeMitch hasn't done anything crazy in his career up until this point. He hasn't, like, he hasn't elevated himself and cemented his place in, like, NBA history, even though that he has a conference finals run. Like, he's gone places, but nobody really remembers it.

Yeah, we might look back at him the same way we look back to like Baron Davis or something. He just kind of gets forgotten to history. Oh, no, don't do that to Baron Davis. No, he's been to Barron Davis, but like, forgotten all-star to history. Yeah. No, I'm talking, that's a shame. No, sorry to Barron Davis. Cool guy.

He is a guy, but he's not Donovan Mitchell. Yeah, but who else is another forgotten All-Star? Like, Lamarcus Aldridge. That's probably just a guy. And that's tough because Lamarcus Aldrin was a bucket. Folks will never know about those days. My shoulder turnaround? Listen, you play for Utah and you play for Cleveland.

You're not doing yourself any PR points. there that's hard to get remembered history for those franchises that is true that that is true and the one time he went crazy the one time he went like super super crazy in the playoffs didn't even have the fans there so it's like you don't even have have those moments it's tough unbelievable man one of the best guys I've ever seen next one get a monocle you win James Hardin legend legend he quite literally figured out the game to the point to where trick the game not the I'm not figuring it out. Oh, my God.

He figured it out. Quite literally just the point where the NBA had to patch him and implement new rules so this motherfucker couldn't get more frequent. They had to patch him facts. They changed the fucking foul drawing rules because he was too O.P. We had people defending him from behind him. He was ridiculous. Legitimately broke the game.

We said that about a lot of guys that are unguaritable. You had to resort to trickery as a defense to try to guard him. It was absurd. Bro. Because he was resorting to trickery on offense. He's a man was cheating out here. Uh-uh. He was a legend of him.

to go ahead and guard him with your hands behind your back so you wouldn't foul him. What other NBA player in history has that type of pull? Nobody. No, he's going to age so gracefully in history. Like, people don't appreciate him right now

because he's washed. We kind of forget about what he was doing five years ago. In a decade from now, we look back and we're like, how is this not one of the greatest scores of all time? How did he not win a championship?

And then I show you the highlight tape of the 13 turnovers in the elimination game or him getting blocked by Genoblee or him going to go out. Realistically speaking, though, every single team that he's had, like, he's always had the worst team. There's never been once where he had, like, a real advantage. Yeah, he's rarely lost. That's an unspoken part is he's rarely lost when he was favored to win.

There's been sometimes where they should have won, and they were like, obviously against the Warriors are so close and they missed 27 threes in a row. But it's very rare he's lost as the more favorite team, I think. Yeah, I agree. But sucks to suck. If you're one of the best players at all the time, you've got to be an underdog and win sometimes. He has to have some luck And luckily he has none But that's a legend right there

Next player Kyle Lowry We're trying to make me upset today Great guy His John piss me off today Is this a Hall of Famer? Stop Is this a superstar?

We could cut to He might be a homer We can cut it early This is a legend to Toronto They can have that They can They can have it this is stop come let's not let's let's like come all do i Howard

oh he's not a guy no he's definitely not led to me there this is quintessential superstar yeah this is i agree yeah there's no he's not i mean listen he's a great dpoi great all-time player not one of the best two-way players of all time because the offense not one of the most accomplished players of all time not one of the most productive the players of all time, but great at all those things, you know, individually, Superstar. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, the back injuries really cooked him and then him getting along, not getting along

with one of the greatest guards of all time in Kobe and the James Hardens of the world. It was his career, Oro just took a steep decline once he entered L.A. No, he for sure has like the worst personality tax of all time. He's so underrated. He got lift off all 75 because people think he's annoying. That's crazy. Damn, Dwight, you know, I like that. Bro, he was showing up to bubble DJ parties, and it was just him.

Like, everybody else is like, nah, like, I'm going to stay in my room. And I was like, I'm going to the lobby. It's going down. Bro, they were talking about him the same way the Mavis were talking about Grant Williams and they traded him. They're like, get this annoying motherfucker out of here. That's bad allegations. The NBA does not deserve him.

That's why he's in Taiwan, balling, hooping, getting up all the numbers and winning championships. And he has ownership. Look at that. We love better life. Next thing we're going to do, we're going to do kind of like a variation of 20 questions, which you know is an old TG3 staple. I'm going to think of an NBA player and you guys are going to have to guess an NBA player by saying other names.

And all I can say is hot or cold. You're not going to know the context of that of why you're hot or why you're cold. You've got to try to guess based on that. Hmm. Okay. Okay. Switch up. I like this.

I like this. I might be fried when it comes to this, but let's see. Yeah, we'll see. It might be difficult. We'll find out. So again, very simple game I'm a thing of an NBA player You try to guess it to who it is and all I can say is hot or cold

Let's talk about it All right, let's go All right, we'll start off Shea Gilges Alexander Uh, cold, I think Okay, that means he has no aura Let's get that off the bat That's an oralist players

All right Oralist players let's go with T.J. McConnell. Very cold. Damn. Okay. All right.

So maybe it's a big, so Chet Holmgren. Very cold. Okay. Maybe he's black. Okay. Kyle. Ben Metabio.

Warmer in the shed, Holmgren, but still cold. Okay. Huh. Cold. Okay, cool. Donovan Mitchell. Get warmer.

Devin Booker. Okay, so. You're very warm. Anthony Edwards. Kevin Durant. Oh, wait. Anthony Edwards, you're still warm. Okay.

Kevin Durant. A little bit colder, but still warm. Bradley Biel. Okay. Not that good. You're getting colder. I got it. Jalen Brown.

Warm, but not not there. it doesn't got to be a current player Kobe it's Kobe Bryant there you go oh okay cool cool okay I see how this works okay okay okay

it's very hard because like because like one player has like a different like you know things yeah there's so many reasons I can say how to call but you got it it's Kobe Bryant can you play okay okay

I can I do again this time Donovan you think of a name this is tough this is tough Uh, who am I gonna think of? Okay, I got the name right now. You got it? I got the name.

Okay. Anthony Edwards. Cold. Hmm. Anthony Edwards is cold. Damn. Okay. What about Obi-Toppan?

Still cold. Nicole Iokic. Warm. Warm. Paukissol. Luca Dantitch. colder uh and then and then you are you are so a little colder for isa for for for isa saint paucasol very cold for mosein luka oh okay okay wow very cool so he's a little bit colder

for powgasol demontas a bonus like lukewarm look warm okay so yokech is the warm so who's another guy so who's another player in that vein lukewarm Joel M. Bors Dio? Warm. Very, very warm for M. Bede. Okay. Okay. Hey, well, we're feeling something out.

We're orbiting right now. Yeah, exactly. We're swarming around, ready to strike. Anthony Davis. Uh, less, less warm. It was colder, colder. Okay. Okay.

So, Yonis Tenguco. Warm. Warm. Okay. So it's got to be an elite big man. Is it all time? Which are we in Yama? Warm, warm.

Okay. Watch it not be big man. We're just swarming on this. It's not that. Yeah, I know. Damn, no wimby. Maybe it's not a common player. Maybe it's somebody like that.

Hakeem Elijah won. You got it. It is Hakeemkeem Elijah. There we go. There we go. That's why I ask the question. There we go. I wanted to say we'll be warm for Wembe because, like, obviously, he will be all time.

You know, we know, we know, we know. But kind of pop in the market for me real quick. Exactly. That's hilarious. All right, Mo, you want to do one? 30 seconds. Yeah. Okay, I got it.

Dang, that's quick. He's like, dang. Cold. Cold, okay. Uh, so he's a bullshit. DeAngelo Ressels. Um, cold. Trey Young.

Okay. Cold Shannon Brown I was thinking Shannon Brown too what the fuck why I would say I don't know

I would say you're not ass cold but still cold damn okay so that knocks out Trevor Ariza ah

no no no no no no no no no you're getting warmer warmer Lamar Odom warmer not necessarily there yet Matt Barnes more colder colder colder colder Paul Gasol I would say lukewarm Ron Artes? Cold colds in wrong direction okay wrong direction so Trevor Reza is getting warmer

PJ Tucker uh you're you're getting lukewarm. Eric Gordon. I like where your head is at. Eric Gordon? Yeah. Cold. Okay.

So Trevor Reese is our best best. Trevor Reza. Luke and Bah, Mute. I don't know. Cold. No. Cold. I got y'all in hell.

I'm thinking about like around this era-ish, you guys are in your bag right now. And when it comes to the level of player in your bag. Okay, that's a 2000s role player Oh, J.R. Smith You are warm. Getting warm. Amon Shumper. Cold.

Danilo Gallinari. Lukewarm. Jamal Crawford. Cold. Damn, this is tough. What? Sir Javaka. You guys are in the right era.

You guys are in the right era. Sir Jabaka. Ooh warm I was just thinking Kevin Martin Kevin Martin no cold okay it's it's a Thunder player is it a mr. player but this motherfucker has size so you get you are I think Kendra Perkins the closest so far cold no Kendrick Perkins why I think of him he's got size he's a big perk he's just good at being big that's it's it All right, okay. So Sergei Baca.

Man. Think about that era. Zach Randolph. Think about that era. I would say, Big Baby Davis. No. Fuck.

You got it. Yeah. Let's fucking go. Clush it out. I knew it. Good job. There we go. There we go.

You're in your best. with that one. I was trying to say to us. There we go. That was great. Next thing we're going to do, we're going to play Keep Three Cut Three. So I'm going to show you some slideshows

to have three names on them, or six names. We're simple. You got to keep three of them. You got to cut three of them. We have various themes here. Okay. It's going to be difficult.

Big Baby Davis. Hope he's doing well. If you're watching the live stream from Sunday for your live stream, Free Agency for the few thousand that we're there what's wrong a big baby Davis you know if you're there for last 20 minutes you'll know all-time TD three clip they're not they're not

tuning in when it comes to those man all time facts keep three cut three let's you're not happening on the streams you're missing out all right so real simple keep three cut three we got Cairo Irving Damien Lillard John Wall John Morant Trey Young and Derek Rose all athletic point guards okay so instantly instantly Tray Young got to go What? He's not even the worst player here He has to go

I'm sorry He's not the worst player I gotta go to I'm cool with that too And then You're kicking out John Wall And then I'm sorry Listen listen I already know who stays Dames says

It's the He has to Listen the top Top left they stay Everybody else in the bottom Damer locks Yes and I'm taking John Morant over Derek Rose.

What are we, what are we, what are we, what are we gauging off of one year peak or totality? Totality. That's tough. I think if you give Derek Rose this type of spacing man, we might be having different type of conversations around him. It's hard. Shoulda coulda woulda. Exactly.

I'm taking John. Okay. You guys don't respect prime D. Rose. You guys don't respect 22 year old D. I respect him just fine. It was just one year. It's just one year.

Tragic Okay, so next one Victor Womenyama Palo Bancaro Tirees Halliburton La Mello Ball Chet Holmgren and Scotty Barnes So this is really

Keep 2 cut through Because we know We know One of them's not getting cut Right What he's not getting cut That is Victor Womeniama

He is staying his ass put He's here Okay We can't get two seats We might just keep one more We don't need three To be Paul can get cut right

He has to say I mean, he might be able to Okay, so who gets cut first? Lamello gets cut, right? Just can't stay fucking healthy. Yeah. Yeah, that's just natural. Lamello gets cut.

And then after Lamello. I think Chet has to stay. If we're going off of last year. That's so tough with Scotty Barnes. Listen, there's four all-stars here, so it's hard to keep Chet for going off of last year. But long term, I'm definitely keeping Chet. If we're going off of last year, we can do that. We can go off of last year.

I'm sorry, Chet, you got to go. So, Scotty, Scottie can stay. Chet your cut, but next year you'll be here, I think. Mm-hmm. And then Palo versus Tyrese. If Palo stays. Palo stays. Scottie or Tyrese, both all-stars, but one was in the conference finals and one was in the lottery.

But it's not Scotty's fault. Not Tyrese's fault that was in the conference finals either. Everybody died on New York. Right now, Tyrese. Rees is better. But, man, Scottie's not far about Scott. Scottie's underrated. His team was so bad last year.

And he made a sizable jump, too. Tyree's did as well, for us. Scotty played a lot worse after they traded Pascal's Yacom and he had to be the one option. We know Tyrese can carry a team right now. Pascal's Yacom. Yeah. Okay.

You got to say the E40 voice? Yeah. All right. Yeah, top road stays, bottom road goes. Yeah, I hate to do it to you, Chet. You know, I'm in number one fan club. last one you guys see the name

audio listeners Yokic and Bede Hakeem Dwight David Robinson Ewing It's actually really easy

No So Hakeem and Yokic is staying Off the bat Right Super easy Yes Yes those two

right away And Okay Patrick Ewing is gone Yes Dwight is gone Dwight is gone As fuck

That's also the easy one Yeah Damn Dwight You're gone as fuck Don't Damn Don't say here Don't say here and try to tell me this

Is it obvious Okay so is there no argument for M. Bid to go over David Robinson? No, you're trying to make good TV And I respect you for it It's not a conversation Get Embed about it here This is David Robinson's spot

I just feel inclined to defend him B because you're such a hater But like I don't know if it's possible David Robinson is him You're saying you'd rather have David Robinson in the NBA right now than M. B. Donovan? Yeah.

Well, listen, if regular season in Bede was in the playoffs, then maybe he'd be better, but if I could fly, then a lot of things would be different, too. Dave Robbinson is like a swole gazelle, bro. Like, he's just running up and down the floor. No, he's like that. He's like, he also served for this country, too. I'll go ahead and select David Robinson.

He's a veteran. We support the veteran Exactly He's a vet Let's respect David Robinson Right here

Put David Robinson Up there What is wrong with Carl Anthony towns He's hilarious Oh my god Last thing we got Today before we get you up out of here

Mo I believe you have some true or false questions ask us. Ah, yes, I do have some true or false NBA questions. Just in general, some of them may be a little bit trivia and others just for fun. All right, let me shake it up a little bit. So you're going to get into it like a take or something and we're going to let you know true or false. Kind of like W or L take we've done the past.

Yeah, exactly. Same exact vibes. Okay. All right. Let's play NBA true or false. You ready for the first one? Yeah. LeBron's

tenor with the Lakers has been a disappointment True and it's not his fault Rob Polinka

I don't even know to say that's appropriate man I had to stop after you at about my

turn Rob Polinka you're my greatest fucking enemy Genie Bush you're my greatest

fucking enemy they squandered it the Russell Westbro trade is one the worst trades of all time

it just destroyed what could have been a legit title window it's absolutely a failure

and has zero to do with LeBron Wow He said it's on site, Rob. What you're going to do about it? What he said? I think said he outside Crypto Arena right now.

Where are you at? He's like, my homie's going to jump you. Now, he's like, we just want to talk. We just want to talk, Rob. I got a potato sack. The Butter Sock. The Butter Sock. The butter sock.

Sam Pucket is a demon. Y'all know about Sam Pucket. No, listen. In the day they got a championship, which is success for anybody, but they could have had so much more. They could have had such an extended window. Ah.

Hmm. Okay. Yeah, man, sucks and sucks. Sucks and suck. Let's trade Anthony Davis. Let's get a million picks. Let's rebuild. Let's start the shit from scratch.

Free him. True faults. Jalen Brunson is a. top 10 NBA player right now. True. Not of it? True. Top 10.

You heard me. I said true. What do you mean? I can't be mad at you. I can't be mad at you. For the summer at least, for the summer at least, Jalen Burnton has to be top 10. Like where he was able to do last year in the playoffs, scoring 40 almost every single night carrying that team. him and Josh Hart playing 40-some minutes a night.

Yes, he's top 10 right now. Yeah, like maybe it's reactionary. So be it. Give him his flowers while we can. You know what? Maybe he's coming for that spot in the top 10. Powell's coming for that spot in the top 10. A lot of guys are coming to supplant him.

So for now, let him have his flowers. Okay. I respected. All right. True or false. The Hornets never had two winning scenes in a row. That's got to be false. No way.

They had to have had it. At least that's true. That is true. What? How down bad is this organization? I'm like 98% sure that's true. Oh, that's embarrassing. That's terrible.

Make that 100% Donovan because you're all correct. Yeah. That is sick. That's crazy. I was going to say we need to relegate them to the G League, but I think we need to go even further. We need to relegate them to the 2K of the E League. Oh, 100%.

Then you can get you against Celtics basketball. And that shit is dissolved too. We need to put them in there. I was about to say, yeah. It's over. And that's exactly where they belong. Damn. Maybe they can play against Creighton.

Listen, Charlotte. They could Dunham in the Wacket. Charlotte versus Yukon. Who wins? Oh, that's nasty talk now. Klingin is walking through those doors. I'm telling you. Exactly.

Walking Mark Williams down. If you tell me that the Yukon team that was playing in April versus the Hornets team that was playing in April versus the Hornets team that was playing, in April, if they face off, I'm taking Yukon. Oh, Castle has something for a fucking man. Exactly. At the end of the year? Yeah. They got him.

That's hilarious, right. Hopefully was out there getting burned. I forget, Graham Williams is there as well. I'm having some of them. He was getting buckets. True false. Just posting up these college kids.

Like, you're too small. Too small. That's his game. You'll feast, bro. True false. False. Anthony Edwards will be the most glazed player of this decade. False. False.

Who's coming for that title? So I think there's, I think Shay is up there, and I think that Wembe is going to be up there. It's not glazed, though, if it's just facts. You can't really glaze Wembe when he's going to be the best player in the world. See, I love Wembe, and that was crazy glaze. So that's my point. That's my point. That's what we're talking about here.

That's my point. So I'll say false because Wembe's, yeah. No. It's not dickwrecking to simply observe facts. Well, that's what we're talking about, ladies and gentlemen. That's hilarious. True or false. Steph Curry will eventually request a trade.

False, but I wish that shit was true. He's going down with the ship, and that ship is sinking fast, but he's going down with it nevertheless. Yeah. It's fun You really think he's going to put up with this For the rest of his career The last three, four years of it

That would be sick Listen, Riley's in what? Seventh grade or some shit You can't make a middle schooler move That'll ruin their life They gotta stay there forever He's a family man He got to prioritize the kids

Keep him with their friends and everything He's not going anywhere Exactly Have you seen him a damn about that Have you seen inside out Clearcut greatest point guard of all time Have you seen inside out Do you know what happens

When you move a middle schooler Across the country It's terrible they start running away and stuff is too much it's too much they start running she started playing hockey or something yuck what are we canadian no that was like what is it the braids what are you canadian that's hilarious what are we Canadian okay true false Kyrie serving as that a better career than Damian Lillard?

False. They've never, they've never, they've never told Damian Lillard go over there and read a book real quick. Like, I'll take, I'll take, also, also Dame as a one option has been more consistent and more productive than Kyrie as a one option. Yeah, people are really going to cling onto Kyrie's moment with LeBron. And I respect that. It's an amazing moment. It means something. But totality of the career, Dan has been better.

Yeah, Kyrie does have those moments for sure, but if Dame was LeBron's teammate, guarantee you, they would have, he would have so many more rings compared to what Kyrie was able to do. Oh, yeah, because he's not leaving, because Dame's loyal. He's not leaving. Yeah. True. And also he is healthier. Yeah. Majority of the time. I'm being on these spam calls.

People need to fuck off. Oh, my gosh. You know, D and D.N. Texas? Multiple numbers from Holland, Texas? What is that? Wait, multiple numbers? are the same number two numbers both of which say Holland Texas

are those people be debt collectors I don't know they're trying to get into touch with me though you're in trouble and I think that's it that's all we have do you need some money and that's the end of the episode if people are so here what should they comment hmm comment what are we Canadian yeah what are we Canadian what are we Canadian yeah I don't understand the right question mark in the red question mark in the exclamation point yeah exactly what i was thinking yeah right here and on that note we'll see y'all later