The Deep 3 Podcast - We Made Our 2026 NBA Playoffs Predictions | Ep. 205

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm looking around this room right now. We are startlingly color coordinated today. Come on, man. I mean, that was a memo. Why are you acting like union playing this? We didn't, but it's okay. This is real chemistry. Right?
Starting point is 00:00:13 You talk about championship teams. They're like, you got to go out to dinner. You got to go bowling. You got to just hang out. This is what we're a podding is like, and this is how it manifests. Who do you think got dressed first this morning? What time did I wake up? I woke up at like 647 this morning.
Starting point is 00:00:28 What time did you get dressed? I got dressed dressed probably at like 740 Okay I got you beat by a little bit What times do you get dressed? You commuted here So maybe you got me beat Maybe maybe like 730ish
Starting point is 00:00:38 I got you beat too Sounds like There's no way you had your clothes on This fully dressed Dripped out That early in one of your own Jack who wasn't on Jack was on the chair
Starting point is 00:00:47 But outside of that it was on round seven So all I'm hearing is You're ordering helicopter tricks on it That's all I'm hearing There's no I refuse I'm an early riser I'm crying Anyways as you guys see by the title
Starting point is 00:01:03 We are here today To preview everything we want to see All of our predictions For the first round of the NBA playoffs We're going to go series by series Telling you obviously who we think is going to win What we think is to happen And then giving one other prediction
Starting point is 00:01:16 For each series Things that we think will happen Will they be serious? I don't know All I said was give me a prediction We'll see what everybody wrote down Yeah let's see We'll see We'll see
Starting point is 00:01:27 And as you mentioned, on Monday's episode, we're starting with the T3 Bowl. Hawks versus Knicks. Oh. You ready to die? Yeah. If they go to a game seven, we will be live streaming that game. And honestly, if they go to a game six and the Knicks on the brink of elimination,
Starting point is 00:01:43 maybe we'll fire up for stream for that game. I don't know. We'll see depending on it goes. Maybe we'll go to New York for that game. If there is a game seven, I promise you, we will be doing a live watch party to see which one of these guys has their summer ruined. It won't happen. It's probably going to be here. Best believe, bro, if the Hawks win.
Starting point is 00:01:57 and he goes to game seven, you're getting suplexed, Donovan, through this table. So we'll talk about all the series, starting with that one, after I play this intro music. We're throwing it back. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:02:11 That's crazy. He was bragging. I hope you just said it. The cranium is crazy. Oh my God. Crowd eaters rejoice. So like, Like I said, let's start with our predictions with Hawks versus Knicks jump straight into the
Starting point is 00:02:32 T3 Bowl. Donovan, you start. What are you thinking about the series? Where are you feeling as a Knicks fan as a fan of the team that presumably should be the heavy favorite that comes in with everything to lose versus the underdog scrappy team is happy to be here post-trading Trey? How do you feel with the burden of expectations on your shoulders? So one prediction for the series, Knicks are going to win.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Maybe it should be a five-game series. However, the Knicks are, they like to just make life harder. on themselves. So it'll be a six games. Should it be a five game series? I actually do think. If the season went perfect, they should be the number, the number one overall C again. This series shouldn't even be existent for real. But what does that say that? If the series, if the season went perfect, they should be number one C, what is that based on? Like, what do you, so? So what are we saying when we say that? I'm really trying to get the crux of, are they really like that much better? Yeah, I, I see. I think they should be. I think they should be.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah, I think so. So I, I'll say that first. I think the Knicks are going to win this. I'll say I was saying six, because some foolishness is probably going to happen. The side prediction that I have for them, cats average in 30. They're really, like the more and more I think about this series, there is no reason why he should not just dominate O'Neika and Moget. Like that just should not happen. Or it should happen in this series. I think as like we've seen it in the past,
Starting point is 00:03:59 We've seen Dyson Daniels have really, really, like, tough battles with Jalen Brunson. I think he's going to make him work. And going from Dyson Daniels to Nikeau Alexander Walker as your top two, like, perimeter defenders, that's very, very tough. I don't think that Atlanta is going to be able to stop this Cat Brunson pick and roll. And I think that any way that you slice it up, there's going to be opportunities for a cat to operate in mismatches, whether it be, whether it be, whether it be, on the perimeter driving by somebody or taking somebody down to the block, I think that he's
Starting point is 00:04:33 going to have opportunities every way that he wants to average 30. Now, whether or not he does that we'll actually see, but I do think that this is a series that really, really favors him. So I think if cats going offensively, that's where I think like the Knicks and Five is coming in because that's more of a sign that I would love to see and really, really push the Knicks forward. Yeah. So the first prediction that I had that was a little, a little bit like very, very vague, but you know, this is going to be peak big per, or at least it should be. Going back to what you said, that we just have no but no big bodies to be able to contain him to match up with his size to put up an effort on the boards at all, or even like positionally,
Starting point is 00:05:13 just like nudging and like really pushes back and get yourself in position to have extra opportunities, whether it be cleaning the glass or anything of that store at all. So far this past season, Katzman averaged like 28 and 14 against the Hawks, right? And last season, too, again, numbers of the same, 28 and 13 against Atlanta Hawksbrough. It's just like a terrible matchup. And Janet Johnson can only do so much. Then on top of that, too, you want to talk about being like out physical, Dimitial Robinson is on the bench too.
Starting point is 00:05:41 This team will get no brakes on the fucking glass at all. And that's where we like genuinely don't stand a chance. Yeah, obviously, big sense. Dimitio Robinson element is a big part of it too, like that having that X-factor rebounding wise in a playoff series, how many minutes will be able to play with the free throw issues, whether Quinn Snyder were really tried to expose that. The Hawks haven't been a bad rebounding team for the last 60 days. Their fifth in opponent offensive rebound percentage allowed on the defensive
Starting point is 00:06:06 side, their fifth in defensive rebounding. That hasn't been a weakness of theirs, despite the fact that they're a pretty small team post-Trey-Young still. But it's different when you have Kat and Mitchell Robinson walks through the doors, everything you just said, the history of Kat eating them alive. I just, I wonder what version of the Hawks will see there because, like I said, if it hasn't been a weakness as of late, are the Knicks so overwhelming that there's no world where they can continue that?
Starting point is 00:06:27 I think offensively, offensively, yeah. And Jalen Johnson is going to, this is going to have to be his moment. Yeah. Like he's going to have to come out. OG's a tough matchup. It's insanely hard.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah. It's insanely hard. Jaylon Johnson is going to have to come out here. He's going to have to average, you know, high 20s, 30s. I think like we're really going to have to see number one option hoops from Jalen Johnson. And since they traded trade,
Starting point is 00:06:51 even before, we've seen basically James Johnson level up, start to have. this responsibility of like, hey, this is your team. Every night people are coming in and scouting for you, all this. We're taking that to a whole other level because now we're in the playoffs and now you have seven games, right? Hopefully four, but four games against one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. How he gets his game off is going to be very, very interesting to see.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And if he's able to find success early, then I think that the combination of him and the K. Alexander Walker like that, that can go a certain type of way. There's also a version of the series where Josh Hart's 3 is not, is not falling. Mikkel Bridges just doesn't show up at all. Does it have, doesn't have the physicality, the defense jump that he took last year in the playoffs. If we don't get that this year and it really is just OG on the perimeter trying to fight against the world, then, then that scenario is like, okay, maybe, maybe Jalen gets going and then, and then Nikkel Alexander Walker gets going. gets going. What if Dyson Daniel has a game
Starting point is 00:07:57 where he hits two threes? I don't know what's going down. You say that like letting you can strike you twice? I don't know what can happen. But there's, there are ways where the Knicks can get beat,
Starting point is 00:08:09 but I think a majority of those ways end up coming out as the Knicks beating themselves rather than Atlanta overwhelming them and beating them four times out of seven, which I just don't see happening whatsoever. They have pretty good personnel for Brunson. very
Starting point is 00:08:23 Dyson and a kill I was under Walker It's a fantastic one two punch The fact that we can have One of them Have the primary assignment We can put the other one on
Starting point is 00:08:30 Well presumably you know We're going to do a thing Where we put a guard on a wing On Cat And then put the center on Josh Hart They'll probably do that right They'll put Jalen Johnson on cat So Brunston okay
Starting point is 00:08:40 I guess you're gonna switch on attack Jalen Johnson Who's food He's been food as a defender Not because his on ball defense It's like horrendous It's not like he's just easy to pick on He still has lengthen athleticism
Starting point is 00:08:48 Have the rotations have been Have been crisp this year I don't know not necessarily Different But maybe it's not even Jalen Johnson. Maybe it's who would be the fifth starter there that they put our cat. They put Onyka on Josh Hart so they can have Oneeca come off of him. Then they'd put, why am I blanking on the other wing on the Eleanor Hawke's starting line?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Dyson. Dyson? The other wing. So is Nikiel, Dyson, C.J. Oh, C.J. I rather start C.J. Yeah. So I guess they put Dyson on him.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Nikol Alexander Walker gets the primary Drenum Brunson assignment. Dyson goes on cat and so we can switch on to him. That's two guard defenders in that pick and roll combination that I feel good about switching under Brunson and giving him more trouble than most teams. Dyson, even on Yucca, can move his feet on the perimeter a little bit. I'm sure Jaylon Brunson will attack him and do his normal thing in the mid-range a little bit, but that's not a food match-up as a center. The only person who's pick on that lineup is C.J. McCollum.
Starting point is 00:09:35 That's pretty good as far as Jalen Brunson defense goes. Yeah, 100%. And when it comes to, you're right, but when it comes to Jalen Brunson and seeing how these last few, really like, we only seen this team in this version, the Hawks and also the fully healthy Knicks. play together or play against each other one time i think prior when they first played in january something like that in the hawks one i don't think cat was there and also i don't remember cidic mccullin being fully there as well and so we only have like really one sample size and that
Starting point is 00:10:06 one sample size that we did see was like a thriller you remember i called you that night donovan i called you pussy on the phone and i embarrassed myself terrible time for me personally for like two seconds but regards to the fact jillam bruns he was he was not able to take any breaks because those guys were hunting him every single time. And I think one of the things I wrote down about this series is that, you know, I think Jalen Brunson is once again going to remind everyone that like he's still here. He's still the captain and he's still like a top, very sure like a top 10 player. That's what you should do. Despite the fact that had the personnel for him, you're saying you still think you still think so. I still think he's like when it comes to one of the shorter
Starting point is 00:10:43 players of all time and like having a wide like bag and array of moves and just being able to at all the tough consensus shots. Like, there's such like always, this is like a, what did you do for me league? What did you do for me recently type league? And everyone just always wants to put Cade ahead of Brunson and all the other guys. And I just think he's just that good, you know, I hate to say it. So are you saying you're predicting a Knicks win? Are you saying you have no hope?
Starting point is 00:11:07 I think the Knicks win in six games. Damn. It should be in six. What I wrote down in seven, though. Well, I mean, we haven't mentioned it yet. how are we factoring the X factor of Zachary Rishi Shay into this matchup? Big Zach.
Starting point is 00:11:22 How are we factoring the X factor Jonathan Kminga into this match? Never the little one. Never the little one. You can't get smaller. Are we not going to even act like he's a part of this equation? Are we not going to act like he's not the Brunson Stopper? Bro, he got a D&P on his birthday.
Starting point is 00:11:35 He was stuck in Cleveland in the hotel alone, bro. Dripped out for no reason. Ah, so. Fuck. It's just a bad look. He laid out of fit and he couldn't. You could have learned. But I do feel like this series really does come down to can Jalen Brunson do Jalen Brunson half court hero ball against these defenders.
Starting point is 00:11:55 They're going to do a good job of not allowing him to have these creases. Even like Kat is going to have to do a lot of one-on-one being bigger, faster, stronger than you guys. Like I think the Hawks defense as of late has shown that they're an incredible switching team, incredibly versatile lengthwise that nothing's going to come easy. They have one of the best defensive ratings in the league over this past 60 days for that reason. It's going to be a lot of one-on-one in the half court. It will be. also prepare to hate Jalen Brunson
Starting point is 00:12:17 because he the foul baiting is going to go to another it's going to have to right and Deson's a handsy defender he didn't get in there it is going to be there and like last year you look at the series against Detroit that's another team has so many great people that you can throw at Jalen Brunson and you have a Sarr Thompson
Starting point is 00:12:35 you had you had Kate you had a younger Ron Howell like you have you have people that will make him that will make him work and by the end of that series we did see some of the most egregious foul baiting that that jalen brunson has done in his career i think that dyson daniels is going to bring that out of him as well and so he's got he's going to have multiple games last last in in the series last time six games against uh against detroit for those games he had double digit free throw attempts i think that's going to be the same thing i think i think it might not be
Starting point is 00:13:06 as smooth in terms of just like bucket after bucket after bucket but i think jelan is going to be able to score well enough just because he is going to get to the line. He is going to frustrate people. And then that combination of him and Kat is going to be the day. I wonder what the main thing I'm looking at in the first two games to see how the series will really go. There's a chance that it ends up being a deeper series than we expect. What is this late game Hawks offense going to default to? Seedin McCollum Ball. That's what I'm bad. Yeah, that's my question.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Seagram Ball and Jalen Johnson working off of that. He's the veteran there that like you probably trust him the most because he'd been there before in terms of like making the right decision but obviously jalen johnson's the gifted player the killer is the rising ball handler who's done so much good in the end of late games yeah he's tunnel vision at times i i can just imagine the world obviously we talk about jalen johnson first option hoops how he's probably got overwhelmed by the attention he's been given asked to make this high-level reads with these exotic coverage he's not used to right we can kind of bake in one or two games where that goes wrong see how they fight through that i feel like you can say the same thing
Starting point is 00:14:04 from a killer's under walker if then cidgen mccullum is like you know not he's the veteran like i said you probably trust him the most to make decisions in that scenario. Not like he's some high-level playmaker, figuring out all those moving parts and figuring out who you want handling the ball with 25 seconds left is going to be very interesting. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And that's honestly, I'm happy you said it.
Starting point is 00:14:22 That's the biggest elephant in the room, like John Johnson, as the first time one option on a team that's led by you. You are the franchise guy as of now. What are you prepared to do by it? What are you going to do when the game actually slows down and foul calls don't necessarily come so easy into your way because the nature of the game is just slower in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:14:43 What counters are you prepared to have? So I think that's going to be a huge pivot for the Hawks. And if you can figure things out for a couple of games or a game or two, can swing his way, then I think this can go to seven. And at that point it's fucking up for grabs. And I say all that, like, it's like an issue, right? Because there's too many options trying to figure out the first time you're there, like what that looks like.
Starting point is 00:15:02 You haven't had much time to jail with this version of the team. On the other hand, the whole starting lineup, add Dyson Daniels, add on Yucca. That's five guys that can switch on to Brunson and bully him down low. And that's four guys. Oh yeah. You can run, but you can't fucking hide at all. Everyone is going to do you up. You're going to, bro, you're going to be put through the fucking ringer.
Starting point is 00:15:20 There's no brakes you can take at all for this team. And Cat, too. Besides on Yaku, who I don't think is some mismatch for Carol Carothy Downs. Yeah. The rest of the four guys can get him switch on the perimeter. Do a little bit of work there. Like even Dyson is like attack him close out the right way with Cat closing out on you. Like that's a lot of people to attack your two big weaknesses.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I think for Kat and, okay. Don't like Dave Vincent get hot. I'm going to do the thing. I want you guys to humor me where I'm going to say something and it's clearly like going to happen. I'm going to say like, oh, if this doesn't happen. So if cat doesn't get into foul trouble, right, then we're okay on the perimeter.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Okay. That's it. And then what? He's going to get into file trouble. Yeah, he's going to get there. I think, I don't know. I mean, Katz's defense hasn't been like some atrocious thing all year long and you've had good moments.
Starting point is 00:16:06 especially on the interior. He hasn't had a bad defensive season at all. But we've seen so many years in the playoffs that we know it's always going to be some kind of factor. Listen. And that's why, and that's why at this point right now, I'm looking at this series,
Starting point is 00:16:22 I think that you're going to win this with your offense. Now, I think that there's a possibility that these games are still close, but it's probably going to be close in the way of like 120, 119, as opposed to 93, 92, you know, so I... And you're going to trust Brunson in those games over the mish-mashen names we just grabbed earlier
Starting point is 00:16:43 trying to figure out the late game offense? Exactly. And you probably trust Mike Brown over Quinn Snyder. I think Mike Brown has shown some defense league. Again, he's getting a good Connolly Towns defensive season. We all talk about early in the season, the fact that they got some good movement stuff out of Jalen Brunson moving off ball a little bit. We'll see what that looks like in the playoffs because there's been times in the season
Starting point is 00:16:59 where they've just defaulted a Brunson ball and kind of like tried to find that balance come playoff time. Do they just say fuck it, Brunson Cook, or do they try to do more of the awful stuff? It's still going to be that. Where's the line? It's important they get both so they don't go out like they have in recent years.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Cats the line. If Cat is rolling and if Cat is involved, then I think that you can have a little bit more faith in just your entire ecosystem as opposed to it's five minutes left. We're just running a high screen role with whoever matcher that we want in Brunson and you just go cook
Starting point is 00:17:31 and we can move away from. the Tibbs, you know, offense that we saw basically for all of last year's playoffs, you can run plays in the last five minutes. I think that that's allowed. Yeah. They've never outlawed it. I don't know if Tibbs knew that. I don't know if he did either.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Actually, I'm almost certain he didn't. So that was a lapse in his judgment and elapsed in his knowledge, which is crazy for, you know, somebody who was like 67, you know, coaching the team. He should know a lot by now. Probably. But that's something that at the end of games, they could probably tap into. to now more so than other years. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:05 So it sounds like we're leaning a close series or every game. I don't really anticipate blowouts. I don't see this Hawks team being going to be blown out by this Knicks team for all the weaknesses as we pointed out the Knicks have and the Hawks being pretty well equipped to attack those. But I am going to trust Jaylen Brunson, like we've seen him for two years in a row now. This should be a third one being a killer in the half court at the end of games over these guys that haven't been there before for the Hawks.
Starting point is 00:18:27 So I'll say Nixon's a tough six. Okay. That could go seven. It wouldn't be surprising. Yeah. I agree. It'll be a six, but they'll be up three one to get this. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I think we actually might to do game one. Whenever we parse this like in blank, I'm just saying shit. It's more just a gauge of like how much better I think the team is. I'm so bad at like actually outlining what I think the series will look like. Yeah. So five, six, four, five, six or seven, it's just like, I don't know how much better I think the team is. Outside of the first like two games, don't tell me, I'm not going to give me any good insight after that. As to how the series is going to go.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I would say game by game. You have fun with that. I'm just talking. Game by game, every prediction. My thing is, can you still game one? After that, hey, man, it's all the grabs. Last and six, I think they're like, eyeball, close one on eyes, quint. Two games better than the Hawks.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I'm like that. Okay, next one, let's go to the other fun series. Let's just get to knock these ones out of the way right away. Lakers versus Rockets, obviously we're going in. No Luca Donchich, presumably for the whole series. He's going to get re-evaluated tomorrow on Friday. There's, like, this small hope in the air that he went to spend. and they injecting him with that shit and it worked.
Starting point is 00:19:34 He can come back by like game three or something. I'm going to assume he won't beat it the entire time. Because I don't even want him to come back if it's going to be some risky hamstring thing. And we see it James Hardin's situation where he fries his hamstring and takes two years to recover. I hope he doesn't even try to come back at this point. Austin Reeves certainly won't be there. Vintage LeVron James basketball with Rui Hachimora and DeAndre Aiden by his side. Luke Kinnar playing point guard now actually looking kind of decent with the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's kind of crazy. Marcus Smart's coming back, been very important to their defense. Hodgepodge team trying to make it do versus a fully healthy Houston Rockets. And I say fully healthy. No Stephen Adams, no Fred Van Vlee. So the fully as healthy version they can possibly get. How do we feel about this series?
Starting point is 00:20:15 Is there any hope for the purple and gold? Oh, there is. The jersey number has two, three on it. I'm not going to lie. I'm speaking it to existence. Okay. Lakers and six. I'm speaking to existence.
Starting point is 00:20:29 There's no logic behind it outside of LeBron being a goat. Yeah, this is one of those things you can just say because if it doesn't happen, no one's going to be like, you were wrong, because like they shouldn't win. And if you're right, you put your chips on the table. Yeah. I was early. You're not a crazy glaze. It kind of is.
Starting point is 00:20:44 It's ridiculous glaze. It's 41. I know. But it's smart, tactical lays because you will not get slander if you're wrong. Fair. I have very little reason for help personally. Like outside. So, okay, the selling point for Lakers would be the Rockets team is just mid in the half court.
Starting point is 00:21:01 offensively at the end of these games, they've shown us time and time throughout the course of the season. They don't have the playmaking to trust them in the late game situation. That is very easy to make their offense devolve into difficult shots with very little advantages because Kevin Rand is your primary ball handler and at this point of his career with his handle
Starting point is 00:21:16 and his first step, double teams give him these issues and he's not going to dime people up. They don't have the shooting to give him a ton of release valve. There do we know, right? The selling point would be JJ Reddick gets in his motherfucking bag and puts together some crazy defensive alchemy to take advantage and fluster them and they steal a couple games.
Starting point is 00:21:32 LeBron James steals one because he's LeBron James and pulls out of vintage game and it's more about the Rockets completely falling apart and being this disappointing team of the year. Always possible. I have very little reason
Starting point is 00:21:44 to believe this Lakers roster is capable of doing that outside of some far-fetched simulation I can just dream of. I'm gonna be honest, pure roll the ball-out logic for this series. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah, roll the ball out. Let's see what the fuck happens, man. I don't love the guys the Lakers are rolling the ball out with. That's the problem. Yeah, like the main selling point, going into the series like if if everyone was healthy for the lakers winning which i would assume they would have won if luco was there an a r was there as well is that you know like the
Starting point is 00:22:09 lakers are one of the like arguably one of the two or three best teams in clutch situations in the entire league they were one for most of the year yeah and the rockets they're like in lottery level when it comes to how they operate in the clutch you know and obviously like those two guys are gone so now it's like fuck like what are the real advantages so at this point in time this is what I got for you, fellas. This is what I wrote. In the specific scenario, the Lakers win. Marcus Smart Masterclass.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Okay. 13 impactful points. Though don't matter. Rockets in five. Damn. Yeah, it's fucked. I can't find any avenue of success for this team to win because, yo, like their bench depth is like completely depleted too.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And now you're actually relying on like, you know, can Bronny James give us like seven, 10 points or something like that? It was funny. I said the least of my concerns. Like, yeah, he probably can. It doesn't fucking matter. Like, even if he does give you seven points off the bench as a backup two guard, like, who is ball handling in the non-Lebron LeBron minutes? And so when I say that, your answer is nobody.
Starting point is 00:23:11 So the next question is, okay, so does LeBron got to play a ton of minutes? The answer is clearly yes. Can he do that and give you what you need in the half court being Superman as the only star ball handler? And hold up defensively as the big wing in that starting lineup that needs to rebound, needs to rotate block shots, do all those things. Can LeBron still be the league leader in transition points Like he has been this season Fuck no That's so much asked of him
Starting point is 00:23:34 Bron I know we've been asking for you Ask us so much out of you for the last like 23 years But can you give us one more Yeah That's a tough of time roll on man That's all we need Give us one more Yeah there's not a
Starting point is 00:23:47 I'm with you You try to like close your eyes Or squint and try to figure out a way That the Lakers can win this It's not gonna happen So I wrote down the braun brawny lob finally happens i think that we i think we will
Starting point is 00:24:01 have to like lebron's gonna have to get in transition they're good they're gonna they're just gonna have to find ways to to school points they've they're gonna like every single time that there is a long a long rebound or or just a regular rebound they're gonna have to make an emphasis to get in transition to try to not go up against a set defense every single time because they're not they're not beating this
Starting point is 00:24:26 trash teams do. Just run really fast as you can do. They're not going to be able to beat the rockets in every single time in the half court. Like that's not going to happen. And the one thing that you can hope for is like, yeah, let's get Shengu running. Let's get KD who's also 37 and 38 running. Like we're going to have to try and hope for that. And the only situation that I'm looking for at this point, again, writing fan fiction,
Starting point is 00:24:52 we can get the lob. It'll happen. Yeah. Do you think it's going to be LeBron to Brani or Brony to LeBron. I think Brony to Bronny. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Lebron to Brony would be insane. He's going to go like this? Yeah. Okay. Afterwards, they're both going to go like that. This is real writing, by the way. I still do think the Rockets offense will struggle in the half court. I think for all his woes, Aiton plus LeBron being the big man duo down there, that's not a, that's kind of, okay, to defend Shingoon.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Like, Shinggoon is so good games. Not saying they're going to lock him up or anything. But I feel solid about those two guys being able to take turns switching on to Shangoon, not letting Shangoon muscle his way past. We've seen LeBron have success switching on him before. Now can't he do that while having to be the end all be all offensively? I don't know. I think Aiden is a pretty good, pretty disciplined one-on-one defender.
Starting point is 00:25:41 That's not really his issue defensively. He has the length over Shingun and isn't like a frail body that Shingun is going to get in his chest and cook him for 40 points a game. I feel decent about that in the half court. Transition, though. They're going to run all day. a men's going to have a 30-point game off of 18 transition points. It's going to be filthy.
Starting point is 00:25:58 They have no chance of running with the Rockets in transition. So if they do that and they game plan well and find a way to eliminate that and really make them beat them in the half court, the Lakers can steal a game or two with some hot shooting. Like I said, JJ Redick's smart defensive plans,
Starting point is 00:26:10 which I think he is good for. He's good for putting them in hell for at least one game. I think they probably still won these first two games at home because of that. But as soon as I may figure that out, because one adjustment that you just can't smart your way out of the talent
Starting point is 00:26:22 is the talents. probably five, maybe six games at the most. More adjustments. Yeah, man, see, I'm coaching. I'm talking about I'm ready to do a good adjustment. I don't know. I know. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah, it's going to be really hard. I think like for Houston, the, the Reed Shepherd, Tarysen, the back and forth, like, who are you going to start? I think you very clearly go with Tari and you dare the Lakers, like, beat us. Try and school points. But on the other hand, who's going to attack Reed Shepard? Rue Hachamora. So I'm saying. I'm like, this is the perfect Reed Shepherd series, honestly.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Like LeBron can only attack so many people. I wouldn't even give them the option of having somebody that you can. Okay, just brutalize them. Yeah, that you can even think about attacking. Because you're right. Because then who does LeBron attack if Tari's out there? Yeah, because if Reeds out there, you give the Lakers an out and you give them one way where they say, it's a very clear thing.
Starting point is 00:27:16 We are going to attack. We're going to do this. I'm not giving you an inch to start this game unless we start shooting a, 11% from three for the first two games of the series. I'm starting Tari and I'm rolling with it and I'm daring the Lakers. We are going to roll the ball out.
Starting point is 00:27:32 We're going to play some defense and you are going to have to score. You are going to have to play your absolute best basketball. And they have to do the opposite of like high level defensive tactics. Just switch everything and make LeBron beat you one-on-one 150 times. Help off of zero shooters. Don't give Aiden a single lob opportunity.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Make him toss the ball to Aiden and make Aiden beat you with one-on-one mid-referting. ranges with a hand in his face. Which he'll make a few. He'll have a good game off of that, I'm sure. But when Aiden's at his best, he's rolling and being able to be a play finisher, give him zero opportunities, make sure Rui Hachemore gets no open threes. Luke Canard, no open threes, make him complete with the ball in his hand with a men hounding
Starting point is 00:28:06 him. Like I said, five great defenders out there are four plus Shangoon. Even then, do I want LeBron attacking Shangoon over and over? That's a tiring thought process. But once again, he's important for the defensive tactics against Shangoon. It might not be tired. Yeah, well, when he's defending him to you, Shangun Tungun Tows' Hengun is heavy. Yeah, dude, Chengdung.
Starting point is 00:28:23 It's going to hurt. Yeah, it's going to hurt. And that's a lot of wear and tear for a 41-year-old. That's a lot, man. I'm looking at the schedule right now. There's eight days in between game one and game four. Hey, Luca, come back. You get this to two-two somehow.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And Luca comes back. What does he look like when he comes back? I don't know. I know, but if he does... Personally, tour hamstring is crazy. It's also these situations where I feel like the league can really take advantage. Don't tell anybody that Lucas is coming back. And at halftime, you just start playing like
Starting point is 00:28:53 Madador music and Luca runs down the tunnel. It's WWE. Yeah, and it was like, oh my God. That's what I want. This is insane storytelling. I love this. This series should be, it should be Rockets and Five.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Like, the storytelling and the fan of fiction is going to get this series to be interesting because there's a very real world in the world that I think that we live in, which is we have all of this hope. And then we play two quarters of basketball. And then we're just sitting there on our hands for an hour and a half looking at the Lakers not be able to really do anything for real.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And it's probably going to be some like 12 to 13 point lead. Lakers come in, make a couple shots. You think they're going to think they're going to make the run. Rockets come back, extend the lead in. We just have that back and forth for the next four games. So I, on this, on this series specifically, yes, I'm leaning into storytelling and fan fiction because I think that the Rockets are going to win very handily. What are the odds right now for the Lakers?
Starting point is 00:29:50 It's probably disgusting. truly believe that the lakers somehow would win what would you what odds would you get let's see do they have the series I'm trying to see the series odds no way dude if this series goes beyond
Starting point is 00:30:05 five games something like an actual disaster happened and something went terribly wrong either read just has like wet leg syndrome and can't play in the playoffs at all or like the late game situation is ridiculous or for some reason like Tori Eason he turned into an
Starting point is 00:30:21 absolute just pumpkin, which we've seen before somewhat consistently towards the back half of the year when it comes to cold shooting. You just described two things you've seen before. Fuck, man. It can't happen. And that is the outcome, right? It really does hinge on JJ Redick having like a masterclass coaching series. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Which I do trust Jay Jherrredic to thoroughly out coach. I may in terms of like adjustments like that. That's not crazy to me. I don't know if it's enough. It might get them one, maybe two games and it's a fun six game series we don't see coming. Maybe the Lakers even somehow go up to one and we're like, what? Then they get blasted for three straight games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Because of JJ Reg adjustments. But that can't win you four games. Yeah. Also, the series odds to the Rockets are minus 600 favorites. Damn. The spread is at two and a half. So they're saying this is going to be a five-game series. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:04 It's going to be four-year. I can easily see this going like the 2018 finals for like game one. It's a classic. Yeah. But if the Lakers choke away game one, Marcus Moore has one of those boneheaded J.R. Smith plays. All hope is lost afterwards. But if they get game one,
Starting point is 00:31:20 conversation going into game two, narratives will be pushed. It will be pushed. Like you said, it could just get swept. Like you said, it could be a funny game one and they just get swept. It's also very possible. Losing the third best player in the world
Starting point is 00:31:32 and another all-style-level guy, like, it's just ridiculous. Yeah. But man. What a run would be if they won. What a fairy tale would be if they won. Now, I wouldn't even like cares much for like the Lakers hopes
Starting point is 00:31:44 because they'd just get to the second round and get bliss either way. This rocket slander would be hilarious if they somehow lost. Dude, KD will be traded this off season 100% Woody? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I think a lot of other guys that would be some shakeups. I don't know if, I don't know what happened. What's the point of trading KD? I don't think the return, especially at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Post KD. files, I don't think the return would be worth it. How would you get better off of that? I don't know. And if you're another... Better locker room vibes. If you're another team,
Starting point is 00:32:12 like, why would you want to trade for Kevin Durant with... Because he's cheap. There's always going to be some way. Well, yeah, if I'm another team, I can convince myself with some shit. And it's a one. year deal. So it's like, hey. That's how KD's got it done like the last three teams.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Yeah. Just a team. Yeah, I can always convince myself KD is the next, next player I need. Yeah, 100%. I don't think you should at this point. That's a different question. Yeah, yeah. I mean, history says you're right. History says I certainly should not, but I can easily convince myself regardless. I can, you could, I can fix them KD to death. 100%. K'll be 40 and I can fix them. I can make him a good locker room leader. At the end of the day, you're just going to convince yourself, yo, this is KD. I'll figure. everything else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 My culture is so strong. Well, we won't let them matter in the locker room. Yeah, buddy. Where's you going? Let's send them to Toronto. That'll be all right. I mean, you know, Miami heat are always thirsting.
Starting point is 00:33:04 They're always thirsty. Always thirsty. Miami would be disgusting. He's going to end up in Sacramento. Culturally, Miami probably can't. If it's punishment. New Yorkers. Can the Knicks save them?
Starting point is 00:33:15 New York? No. No, they can't save them. No, they can't save him. No, it's super can't. He probably could, but the roster wouldn't be good enough for me to care. Yeah. I think the team, like, maybe Minnesota would be interesting if they don't like.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Because I think they were in conversations. Minnesota can't save him. Chris Finch can't save him. But I don't think it's about the team saving Kay Bito. Yeah. Then we can talk. Fire Chris Finging in a culture center, then we can talk. Yeah, I don't think it's about the team saving KD though.
Starting point is 00:33:38 It's the other way around. Can KD save me? He's not saving him. I'm past that point. He's not your savior. He's not your savior. He's not your savior at all. But can we save him in terms of like eliminate the locker room issues
Starting point is 00:33:49 and get the most out of him? I think so. Listen, come to Atlanta, man. Oh, you damn sure I can't save him. Hell. Listen, man. Come to Atlanta. If you're going to retire.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Listen, man. You know exactly what needs to happen. The conversation that people were having two years ago, listen, LeBron, KD. Steph, one last Friday. Let's get it to. Hell no. And that can save him, honestly.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Like that, that's legitimately, I think that might be the only situation that might be able to save him. And the only way that would happen is if KD wanted to go back to Golden State. I don't think he would ever dare go back. Oh, Detroit. save him, I think. Oh, yeah. That's the easy one.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I would love that. Him fitting in with the Detroit culture, the Detroit could save him. 100%. That'll be good. That'll be amazing. That's only some of my favorite. I know what?
Starting point is 00:34:28 But they got to be pushing that narrative in summer. Yeah, but it's tough money-wise, though. That's a lot of money. They'll figure it out. And they got a pay Jalen during. Tobias is there. Who cares? We'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:34:37 He's going to be sacrificed. We'll figure it out. No. See? He's so quick. Damn. You don't even want to try to save Kevin Durant? Nah.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I have Kevin Durant for Fox straight up. No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to do that. I think whenby could save him. KD for Fox. At this point. Thank you. We're talking culturally. Katie can play no matter what.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But we're talking about like a locker room and making it work. I think when we can save them. That's not saying much so. Maybe we can save anything. Correct. That's what I'm talking about. Winby and Yokage make everything work. Damn.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Okay. What series do you want to do next? Let's go. Let's go Cavs Raptors. Cabs versus Raptors. Damn, you picked the least in terms of one. I know. I wrote literally.
Starting point is 00:35:19 nothing for this team. We have to get the thing about the way. We have to be the most fun part to me the most fun angle here is we once
Starting point is 00:35:26 again revisit an agenda that has never died if you live in Cleveland or Toronto if you're in the rest of the world you don't give a fuck about what I'm going to say. The Scotty Barnes
Starting point is 00:35:35 versus Evan Mobley discourse has never ended. These have two people have been in Stan Wars for four years now after the rookie of the year battle. They're constantly
Starting point is 00:35:42 one-uping each other. Last year, Evan Mobley seemingly snatched a chain was way better. This year, I don't know. Scotty Barnes
Starting point is 00:35:48 is probably better this year. These two fan bases have been a constant state of saying my star is better than yours now they get to go head to head in a playoff series me the one that can shoot the ball but both them can defend their asses off how is this going to go um so i think the calves end up winning this series because i don't think i don't think toronto is going to have enough offense to keep up with them however the one thing that i do think will happen i think r j barry is going to hit a game with it what
Starting point is 00:36:14 bold prediction everyone rj yeah it's not ridiculous yeah one i one i I think that the play game offense is so wonky that the ball's going to find them. Okay. The ball's going to find them. It is. If I'm Cleveland and we have five minutes left, yo, Brandon Ingram, I'm sending a double every time, right? I'm going to force Scotty Barnes to go out and be this like offensive initiated, this creator to try and beat me as a score like that. And because of that, because I don't think that Scotty is at that level, once again, the ball can find people. And I think that RJ has, there's always weird moments with RJ Barrett where he has some, some like weird highs or really just like these weird moments.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I think he could hit a game winner. So that, that's one. Outside of that, I think that, I think, I think Cleveland is just too, too much for Toronto. I don't, I don't think that they're, that they're going to be able to get that. I'm going Cleveland in five years. I think you're right to pinpoint RJ Barrett is like one of the most important players in the series. Because we pull up, we got this right here. They're two starting lines against each other, right?
Starting point is 00:37:21 I'm assuming they're going to start Mobley on Scottie Barnes straight up. They're not going to do anything clever, right? They're going to say you're going to start off with the most difficult assignment on you. If you want to run a pick and roll action with Yaacob, okay, attack Jared Allen, who's a very good defender in space. And with your lack of jump shot right now, we feel fine by you not being able to blow by and abuse Jared Allen off the dribble. So I think we're kind of okay as far as Scotty Barnes scoring goes.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Ingram's going to do Ingham himself. He's going to get his mid-range jumpers. They're going to play drop coverage. fine, beat us Brandon Ingram, mid-range jumpers, right? There is one, two, three, six, five, and below, not incredibly powerful
Starting point is 00:37:56 guard defenders there. Somebody's going to have to attack those closeouts. And that's probably RJ Barrett. I think they go as far as RJ, Emmanuel, and even Ingram to some extent, can take you attacking those small guys because obviously James Hardin is a solid one-on-one defender when he locks in
Starting point is 00:38:10 isn't rotating. Donald F. Mitchell isn't if they get a horrible defender. you know, you can attack them. They have a lot of smaller bodies because they don't have these big wings that if we can do are everybody eats style of offense or the ball's moving, the ball is clicking? That's the way there.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Is it these supplementary players on the Raptors can really abuse the lack of size on the perimeter? Yeah, I don't know if RJ will, I think the opportunity will be there. Like the Cavs defense will be like off center or off kilter for sure. But I don't know if RJ Barrett will have the like necessary skills to abuse that.
Starting point is 00:38:43 and it's like in timeliness, which is like the biggest thing for me. I think he will. It's like his biggest strength is driving his closeouts like that and attacking smaller guys. Is it enough to win the series? I don't know. But I feel good about him giving some advantage there. There's a reason their on-off numbers are so strong with R.J.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Why they look like a terrible team when he's been injured. And when he comes back, they start winning games again. Just because we talk about it in the season. They just have a threshold of necessary ball handling that without him, they don't have the guys in a roster to have enough ball handlers there. With him, they do. So I don't think it's, going to be a bloodbath for that reason.
Starting point is 00:39:15 But I don't know. I just struggle to find a reason outside of that and that's like a they can keep up type of reason. I don't see any super strong strength to say that the Raptors is the better team. I mean they're not. Like I can't even sell myself really. So are you going in Cabin five as well?
Starting point is 00:39:31 It should be six. Cab sweet? No. I think the Raptors defense is good enough that I don't know. Do you're a very game winner? Oh, yeah. Yeah. My bad. My bad. You forgot the reality.
Starting point is 00:39:44 He lives in for a second. Please. Yeah, Cabin 5. The James Hardin playoff stuff, we'll see. It would be hilarious if the James Hardin playoff stuff happens early and happens in the first round against the Raptors. I think that's like worst case scenario instead of in the second round against Detroit. But the first couple games, like you know, James Hardin will have games in the series where he will score very, very well. and the shooting will be
Starting point is 00:40:13 good. I think you're going to have a James Harding game. Donovan Mitchell, we obviously know can unload the clip at any moment. He can show up and just say, I'm going to take 30 shots tonight because it's a playoff game and we need it. He can do that. The Scotty versus Evan Mobley debate, do you think one that we will get a,
Starting point is 00:40:35 obviously outside of like the stand-ups? Do you think that Evan Mobley can make a, for a real for a push to get back on top because I feel like Scotty's winning right now. I think yeah, I think in the current moment the way people are discussing both of them I think Scottie's winning. I don't think either them are allowed to say they're winning. I think
Starting point is 00:40:54 both these guys have been such shitty shooters this year. Also, both generational defenders. I put Scotty Barnes on first team all defense. Fantastic defender. They both are such god-awful shooters that I don't think it's right to say either of them are winning this debate right now. This is two idiots fighting right now. Yeah. This is like a battle defensive but when it comes to the other end, offensively, they're walking into fights with the butter and eyes.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Like, no one has an advantage for... Yeah, no one has an advantage. They've oscillated back and forth. They're both dead even right now because they both refuse to score at a high level. Everything else about their gains has been nice, but the scoring has been so mediocre for both of them. I'll say this, the series will decide it.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah, this is the finale. After this, I'm no longer having the discussion in my mind at all, bro. Whoever is, like, slightly more efficient, hits more total threes by the end of the series, you're the better player. I'll never care again bro this is like a much lamer version of like
Starting point is 00:41:45 Donovan Mitchell versus Devon Booker don't care about this please let's get over with it's rare that we see these draft class rivalry stick though because they try with Kate and Jalen Green someone didn't hold the end of the bargain there Chebress Powell was the thing with the fans
Starting point is 00:42:02 someone's not holding up the end of the bargain there you don't often see it where the sticks can we talk about a really exciting series it's going to be the Denver Nuggets versus the Minnesota Timberwolves. Probably the most exciting one. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. This is a series that we saw
Starting point is 00:42:18 happen like twice now over the last few years. Obviously, we talked about how the Timber Wals had the Nuggets number a couple years ago. They had the two bigs and they kind of figured them out haven't seen them play each other
Starting point is 00:42:29 in a playoff series in the Julius Randall era. Do we feel like this is an upper level of understanding how to defend Yokic without Kat there? No. To defend Yokich, no.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I think I still don't know who I think is going to win this series because I think both of these teams are wildly have the ability to be wildly inconsistent and so I think that there are going to be
Starting point is 00:42:54 I think this this series is going to have a lot of blowouts like maybe maybe like four of the game decided by by 20 points where I think the constantly back and forth you're going to get this
Starting point is 00:43:07 this team is winning by clean this team. And you think both teams can blow each other out, as what you're saying? Yes. Yes. I do agree there. So I think we can assume why the Nuggets can blow them out. Their offense over the last month or two has been the best in the league, like by far. They've been absolutely obliterating teams offensively, still bad defensively, but clearly
Starting point is 00:43:24 if the T. Wolves jump shot isn't falling and we see a series where the Denver Nuggets do some smart game planning around the lack of ball handling on the Timberwool side, there's a game where they blow them out because they score 140 points, right? What's the path to the Timberwolves blowing out the Denver Nuggets? in game three at home in Minnesota? I think a Gobert defensive master class. What does it look like?
Starting point is 00:43:47 Are they going to, you think they're going to do the thing where they have Randallon, Yokic, Gober helping? I think they'll try everything. Just because you kind of have to against Yokic and, you know, try to see what sticks.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Part of me thinks like going in, obviously it's Yokic and he fries absolutely everybody. And so just playing him with Rudy Gaubert straight up is probably not going to be. be the best option. How long can we do that though? Because I do think that if you divert a lot of resources elsewhere, like, do we really want to force? Like, it's okay if we want to tell Cam Johnson, you go, you go beat us. Payton Watson. You have all these, all these guys like, can you come
Starting point is 00:44:26 out here and really, really beat us right now? And if Yolch gets 50, then he gets 50. I think you could rock with that for like one game. Then the next game, like you'll probably go back and, you know, make adjustments. But I think that you can have a game like that. There's moments with the nuggets where they are all locked in, balled in, the ball's moving, everything's going well on both sides. I do think you can get a game like that from them. And that's the situation where I think they can blow Denver out in a game. I think there's two things that might lead the Minnesota Timberville to, like, shock the world.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And it wouldn't be the most surprising thing because you literally seen them do it before the last two years specifically. but I think this time around will make things so wildly different is of course they're not actually going to attack the living shit out of Nicole Yokic and we've seen time and time again even then through their matchups earlier this year
Starting point is 00:45:17 like they just Anthony Edwards every single time he had an opportunity where you could open Yokic's hips up he's taking it and he's attacking the rim so easily taking Yokic's hips but I think the two things that makes things differently is okay Iyadishumu he is a runner and he makes offense at times so much easier for them
Starting point is 00:45:34 because it's just like a straight pathway line drives he's going to he's going to help the transition offense and see a jolt and that's something that the Denver nuggets necessarily they're older a slightly older team you know and they don't necessarily love to do with that so it's that and then also too i guess like this is where i'm really jumping through so this is how you know i'm not really leaning towards the minnesota timber will but if there was to be a way then okay a lot of timber wills fans i see on the internet are talking about you know terran shannon junior has made somewhat of ascension later in the season, three games in April. It's like, okay, I get it.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And people are claiming for him to get opportunity because he is so, he is such an explosive athlete and he just offers so many issues with how physically he is ushering himself into the rim. Those are two pathways. The final one is Anthony Edwards being God. That's it. Is that crazy?
Starting point is 00:46:28 I kind of think this is going to be the easiest series for the nuggets. Yeah. Relative. Not easy, maybe I shouldn't use that verbage, because, you know, the Timberwolves are a good team, so nothing's easy in the Western Conference playoffs. But compared to what we saw two years ago when the Timberwell was won,
Starting point is 00:46:40 compared to what we saw Denver Nuggets go through last year losing to OKC, I don't see the same issues coming to them. The Timberwolves really beat them two years ago. We talked a lot about the, oh, they figured out the Yoko's defense, the two bigs, yada, yada. Jaden McDaniels had Jamal Murray in a fucking torture chamber. Jamal Murray was terrible in that series. I don't think he was healthy, if I remember correctly,
Starting point is 00:47:02 happens a lot with Jamarino. This year he's coming in, having the best season of his career. I don't think we're going to see a complete shitter from him. We're not going to see a complete shitter from Kevin Porter, Jr. He's not there anymore. Oops, Michael Porter Jr., he's not there anymore. Which is a bit of big part of him missing all the shots and them losing these series. I think from the last time they played each other, Aaron Gordon is like 100 times more lethal of a shooter.
Starting point is 00:47:24 So to put Rudy Gaubert on Aaron Gordon and help off thing isn't going to work. You're going to put Aaron Gordon on Christian Brown. And maybe that works. Now we have Tim Hardaway Jr. to close some of these lineups. so we're not going to be able to have a non-shooter out there if we don't need to. Cam Johnson is in his threes again, so I don't think he's going to have the downfall of Michael Porter Jr. where he was missing all the shots because of shoulder injury.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I don't see the clear, terrible shooting around Yokic that has led to those upsets. That alone, if they're going to be shooting while playing good offense, that alone makes it so I don't see them getting upset and losing the series. The only way I see it going super long is if that happens, which is always possible when you do have Jada McDaniels there who could still get Jamal-Mory Hill, and we do still have Christian Brown there who could start missing all his threes. Same thing with Cam Johnson. the world is there where it ends up being a long series
Starting point is 00:48:05 but I think their offense is clicking too well and they're relatively healthy with the important shooters that I think the downfalls I've seen in the past won't be an issue in this series at least I can understand that I think in the in the playoffs every single year we see especially like in the early rounds so many times you'll we come back and we like recap the game we bring up all these charts and the main difference is just three point
Starting point is 00:48:28 variance and you named two guys that you said that you believe in but also can acknowledge oh they might they might have a cool game in who in Christian Brown and maybe Cam Johnson yeah right I feel good enough about Cam Johnson like anybody yeah but he's been really good as of late that again anybody can have a cold game right
Starting point is 00:48:46 like we just saw conkin-up will have a complete shitter and that's the reason they almost lost the game it's possible with anybody including the greatest shooter we've seen in past five years outside of stuff Curry but I feel worrisome about Christian Brown not so much Cam Johnson I also want to say I understand
Starting point is 00:49:01 Nuggets fans love themselves Tim Hardaway Jr. Yes. Tim Hardaway Jr. is also a guy that in the playoffs has not shot particularly well. And so all the stuff that you're getting
Starting point is 00:49:12 right now, there can very much be a game or a couple where you have Christian Brown Yeah, you have Christian Brown, Tim Hardaway Jr. And Cam Johnson, all of them not shooting well. Like there's a couple guys coming back. They said that Payne Watson, he's like trending well for game one. And so like if he's there in the series,
Starting point is 00:49:33 but we'll see how healthy he actually is. The depth of the of the nuggets, I do think we'll be tested a little bit. And even if you feel good about it, they're going to have to prove it. They're actually going to have to make shots. And if not, then that's where the Timber Wolves can get downhill
Starting point is 00:49:50 and or not get downhill because that's where they can get in this series and actually win some games. I think Denver is going to win just because I still, I still have this like preseason hope and my priors about them. But I don't think it's going to be easy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I ultimately landed on the Nuggets winning. I wanted to say in five, but I'm paying respect to Anthony Edwards and the improvement of Jada McDaniels. But this is just a completely different thing. Going back to what you said, bro, like, Yokin is even better than what he was two years ago. Julius Randall is there now. And I think, like, the size difference between him and Kat changes everything.
Starting point is 00:50:30 thing when it comes to why the turnover has had such strong advantages. And even with the like questions looming of Peyton Watson, who did ascend as like a different level of player, but also like even if he's just standing in the corner shooting three, I think he has ability to do that even without like him throwing him being in the equation or what's his name, Spencer Jones being a part of the equation too. Like I think they're so much better. Their core players are so much better than what they were in the past that all that, all those things will ultimately be washed away because of the sure greatness.
Starting point is 00:51:00 of sheer greatness of Jamal and Yokic at the end of the day. Yeah, anything can happen. And also, Dubious Handel is going to like. I'll support two. These are going to be the last few games that he plays from Minnesota. I don't think he's going to be on this team after the season. That's not ridiculous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:15 He's going to have a shitter. Things are going to be disgusting shitter. That's my prediction. I did want to ask, Ghal, how do you, how well do you all think Anthony Edwards needs to play in the series? Hello. Very. So, like, quantified that. Like, I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:51:29 The last time they played. he average like 28, 29. I need 32. 32. Do you think he can do it? I think he can do it. I think he can. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:51:40 That's a lot. That's a lot. And because I also think like there's going to be an element of empty the clip. When you are playing from behind and you are going up against this team that is better. And like our season is on the line. Everybody's been playing well. I really want to pass out to these other guys. It's like I am going to take these shots
Starting point is 00:52:02 and he obviously feels comfortable taking a lot of these. But I'm gonna need 32. And I'm sorry like it may seem unfair. Listen, we're in a bad situation. Help us. I don't really care about the scoring part of that for him because I trust him to have a good scoring series. If he doesn't, they'll just fucking lose
Starting point is 00:52:19 and that'll be what it is right. Yeah. I trust him to have a good scoring series. Is he going to playmaking? Yeah. We've seen moments in the playoffs in the past couple years where the playmaking got to the point we were like, oh, look at Anthony Edwards.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Okay. he's doing what needs to do against these double teams. And it's been a point of us acting like it's a big improvement. And then we get to the regular season this year and he averages a 3.7 assists. That's what I'm saying. I've been saying it on this podcast for a minute now. I think like Ant has been overcompensating for the roster construction.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And what they need from Ant, I just don't know if he's ready to do it just yet. Yeah. And I think the real, what you just said is correct. And I think the real phrasing is they need too much from him. And it's impractical against high-level teams. So it don't need to be Anthony Edwards being one. the best players in the world, which you can never rule out.
Starting point is 00:53:01 This can easily go seven. Then if it goes seven, he can have a best player world type of game and you never know what happens. But I feel pretty safe relatively with the Never Nuggets winning the series. Yeah, they need like 32, 8 and 8 from M. And I don't think instap player right now. And even if they do, if they do get that from him, I still think there's an avenue which they lose because.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yo, can do the same thing? Yeah, Yogi's going to do. He's going to do. He would double that facts. And then on top of that, too, you do realize like, oh, it like talk about all the inconsistent inconsistency for the denver nuggets like yo that's the minnesota terminal the middle name d'ante de vincenzo is right there and he has like he's very open to going like one for nine or two for seven on any given night from the three point line
Starting point is 00:53:46 while also on the very next time maybe going five for nine like that type of variance is disgusting and that's what this team relies on yeah so i'm like it doesn't matter i think the nugget just kind of like literally close line them. It really comes down to Jamal Murray, honestly. That's kind of like the end-all be all to me. We saw them beat this team, that being the Timberwolves beat the Nuggets, when Jamal Murray had a stinker in a playoff series. Jamal Murray has been shooting like a god amongst men for the entire season.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Last 20 games, he's been shooting 46% from 3, 64% true shooting overall. If he maintains anywhere close to that, I find it very hard to predict the Timberwell's victory. Now, if Jake McDaniels, once again, puts him in a torture chamber and go bare, the drop coverage, we make it so a lot of difficult shots from Jamal Murray and he goes cold for a few games and we realize these guys should have his number because the trailing technique of Jada McDaniels is too long for him and Gobert's too scary
Starting point is 00:54:34 and we just see that that is a real advantage they have then we'll have a conversation but until you show me you can lock up with Jamal Murray again I'm going to assume that Timberwell was win yeah or the nuggets was? Oops, I'm going to assume the nuggets wins yeah all right you know
Starting point is 00:54:49 Nuggets in seven they had to have a disaster I think. We're not even talking about the fact that Timberwolves have closed this season with the motherfucking whimper with all the team chemistry issues
Starting point is 00:55:00 they've had. Everybody's yelling at Rudy Gaubert. Yeah. Like, we didn't even talk about that. And the fact that Julie Randall hasn't been playing super well like himself. We're talking about him as an X factor.
Starting point is 00:55:09 That X has been lowercase for like 30 games. It's like a Z factor at this point, man. It's not good. Yeah. They're training in opposite directions is all I'm saying. So outside of them
Starting point is 00:55:20 beat them two years ago, I don't have a lot of hope for Timberwolves. Yeah. But I hope they're proven wrong because if they do and it's go seven it'll be so i think this i'm i think and i hope that this series will send them spiraling because they have they do have like things to address this off season bro like i want to see them get first rounder because i don't want them to get like too
Starting point is 00:55:36 complacent off of just being able to say yeah we made the western carl's final two times in a row yeah that's nice but the west is serious bro said this spiraling hoping for a spiral is so funny so listen minnesota i pray to god you have an existential crisis this summer you don't you don't believe you don't believe it, but I'm actually actively playing for their downfall for the embederment of their team. Like, they need this. The problem is I don't really know what their pivots are. Like, K.D.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Sure. I don't actually know the Rockets and want to trade KD though. So like, in terms of like, realistness, I don't really know what crazy people have. I mean, if Ron beats them. Janus, Ghanis, man. Okay, yeah, yeah, no, my idea. You're right. That is the exact pivot.
Starting point is 00:56:15 You're right. Yeah. That'll be the conversation they're in. Yeah. And it sounds like Janus will be getable now. It's not going to be a king's ransom. So, yeah. That will be the conversation.
Starting point is 00:56:22 No, you're right. I want that to happen. I want Janice to answer. Yeah, I hope you get your backs absolutely ruptured. I hope it's crazy. I hope his crazy in Yokic back size. Rupured. I want to see Janice and Anthony Edwards together.
Starting point is 00:56:37 You know, that's vicious. Rupured is crazy. I hope they have the utmost motivation to get Janus. Oh my gosh. That's crazy. Blow it out. Rupcher. It was not gifted you.
Starting point is 00:56:52 TikTok comments, the little green, like, animated creature going like this in the camera? No. What time of TikTok are you on? Yeah, I haven't seen it. You only need to look crazy. The idea is something inappropriate on the internet always blows y'all's mind. Like, I'm the crazy one. Like, I'm not, like, I made it up.
Starting point is 00:57:13 It just feels like a different side of the internet. Is it like an AI thing? Like a, like a tung tung so or something? Kind of. That's the vibe. I don't know what's actually, yeah. It's just always funny because you're all. was the one bringing it out.
Starting point is 00:57:24 It's like, you're the one that has the freaky time line. Yeah. That's not even a freaky pig. It's like, 18 year old humor thing. Next series.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Let's talk about the Celtics. Celtics versus 76. It's an 18th year. Yeah, like it's like childish humor thing. Celtics versus 76ers. Another war coming. Beasols.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Are you worried? Am I worried? I told Don't have been pre-shall. I really wish we got the magic now after that last game. Am I worried? And we'll talk about the magic when we get to the 1-8, because, man, we have some words for those motherfuckers. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I have too much respect for Tyrese Maxie to say I'm not worried. But I will say, historically speaking, we do just own the Sixers. So from that sense, I'm like, ah, it's just another series. I love Terry's Maxie. Yeah. Same. Derek White's walking through them doors. Jimazoo is walking through them doors
Starting point is 00:58:22 Hugo Gonzalez is walking through them doors Hugo Jaylon Brown Tatum healthy That's a tough defensive matchup For Tyrese with no Juel Mbide Paul George is doing some ball handling Against some magic Look decent
Starting point is 00:58:34 It was missing shots But like I think the The way of offense They were trying to play with Paul George Looks good enough I think he looked fluid enough To do some ball handling there against the Celtics It's tough with those defenders
Starting point is 00:58:45 Man with no Joel Embed It's real hard for me to find a way The series goes long Is there no chance he comes back? I have no idea. I don't know what the timeline is. I think it's over unless it's like the series gets extended to like six or seven games and maybe there's like a shot in the dark book for the type of like weirdness.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Like in the next week it's probably not. I think they said it's like typically two or three weeks with appendicitis at the least. Yeah. I saw a report that like apparently he can't play. That was a skip Bayless. That was Skip Bayless being like, he can't play but doesn't want to in the locker room's causing issue. Shut your senile ass up. Obviously, Joelle Nvita is going to play through injury.
Starting point is 00:59:19 could. I've never seen a player play them where injuries in Joel Embed. Okay, no mind. The fact that Skipin is one hear that comprehend it, believe it's true and then think it's smart to say in front of a camera, you are dumb as rocks. Yeah, I didn't know who was from Skippon. No, my, no. Bid is not playing with his shoes. Yeah, probably
Starting point is 00:59:35 not. Yo, Nameda's Kate is going to set the Celtics record for offensive rebounds in the game. And blocks. There were some lineups last night where the Sixers were just small. Yeah. And And you already feel like that when you're playing Maxine V-J.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Kada versus Bona Wars downloads. It'll be fun. Drummond? Drummond hitting a dagger three. No, that's so crazy. You should be able to relinquish your fandom. I can't take this. This has to be rock bottom.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Andre Drummond in 2026 is hitting a dagger. He extended his career by like three years with that single play alone. That's a drumming man. That's in. That's insane. Yeah, that's on the same lines of the Gobert dagger, man. It's tough. Tough.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Honestly. Yeah. And, but do you have these lineups? Maxie, VJ. Then you have, then you have Kelly Ubrey out there. You have Paul George. Just a bunch of guys, right? Just a bunch of wings.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Katie should feast. Katie should be out here getting 20 offensive rebounds of the game. You should look like Mitchell Robinson. There's going to be a lot of opportunity for the Celtics to just walk all over Philadelphia. There's there it should be a five game series. I'm gonna give the sixes credit because they are they're spunky, right? They can they can make things interesting for a little bit, but in the long run, they don't have anything for for Boston.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Oh, I think the Celtics should sweep them. I think they should. Yeah. I think they should, but I'm gonna give them one game. You know, I never predict sweeps because it's always so hard for me to be like, this team has no chance. Like I can tell myself this. I'll say I have to prick one sweep on both sides.
Starting point is 01:01:14 This will be it. Would it be like a good sweep of that? Like a, nope, no. A sweep where the games are close. I think it'll be just mad at other. This team is just not built for, bro. One of the things that, like, we're not, we haven't mentioned just yet is that, you know, Tatum was walking into the playoffs over the last, what, six games.
Starting point is 01:01:31 He's averaging 25, 11, and 8 shooting ridiculously efficient. Not ridiculous efficient. My goodness. From the three point line. 45 from the field. Way more efficient than he started out from. Ridicously. Coming off.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Hesha. Bro. Anytime he, coming off from Achilles. I'm like, yeah, man, anything you do, like, fuck. It just heightens the experience so much further. It's only six games, but that is a really impressive six game stretch post Achilles. Like, yeah. That science alone, if you told you five years ago, someone tore to their Achilles and did that at any point of their season.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Hey, man. Crazy. I won't say, I think similar to Donovan with the Knicks earlier, the Celtics just have a history of just making things much more harder than it needs to be. So that, that factor does. Yeah. And that's why it's going to be popping. But I feel like in those runs, whenever they were like missing all those threes, making series long, I feel like they always, I'm trying to, I'm trying to recreate, right now, I feel like they're always good for us sweeping the first round.
Starting point is 01:02:21 And then this real comp come second and third round, they start being annoying and shit in the bed can sit the heat, whatever. That year where we faced the Hawks in the first round, I was convinced we were sweeping them. That should want to six for no reason. Oh, yeah, I remember that. They had the Hawks series. They swept KD.
Starting point is 01:02:34 But outside of that, they weren't sweeping. Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah. Maybe I'm just thinking about sweeping KD. Oh, no. Didn't they put the magic one year? They didn't sweep them. What was that?
Starting point is 01:02:44 They put in the magic last year. Yeah. And they didn't. No, they want to talk about the first round series at some point. Yeah, they did. They did. Yeah, they played the magic last year and they lost one. You're right.
Starting point is 01:02:52 They didn't sweep them. Okay, so four or five. Yeah, even before that, it wasn't. I'm just gauging my level of like, how much do they take care of business against the worst teams? A lot of four or five games. That's what, again, this is probably going to be a five game suit. And you're right. Maybe they don't be sweeping because the three point variance is going to happen at some point.
Starting point is 01:03:10 You'll lose one game. So, okay, you guys are right. Sixers and five. That's the outcome. Yeah. Don't miss three at one time. Tatum will have a Achilles. Terri type of game.
Starting point is 01:03:19 It'll look real ugly. They'll miss a bunch of threes. I'm with it. Yeah. A dim bone is going to come flying from the rafters blocking shots. Dude, I'm a Kina is going to be amazing. They're going to be boxing down there.
Starting point is 01:03:31 They're so big, both in the are so fucking buff. They're just going to be out there boxing each other out. It's going to be awesome. It's going to be a sumo match. Sake. And then drumming in Vousavich out there, veteran savvy,
Starting point is 01:03:43 banging Bell. Is he going to be playing? Is he hurt? No, he's fine. Yeah, no. Oh, he's back from the... But is he fitting to be in the rotation?
Starting point is 01:03:50 People are just kind of low on him. I really wish we never triggered for bootjang. You miss Simons? Yeah, I do. You might as well have Simon. Brad Stevens did miss with that one. I will say, I think Donovan called it when we were talking about it
Starting point is 01:04:01 in the trade deadline. He missed. It's okay. Not a bad miss. We'll see, though. He got up for the playoffs. Have that stretch five look with a veteran that can be there?
Starting point is 01:04:08 We'll see what happens. Yeah. We got Garza, though. Boots in the playoffs. Yeah, I was like... That's exactly what I want for my championship, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:19 It's the number one thing on my wish list. He's about his shirt. And you know that. Yeah, I don't know much to say. Shout out the Sixers. It's just tough with no Juelan and Bede. Same thing as the Lakers. Can Drumman shoot 50% from three in this series?
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah, probably shoot two, make one? Yeah, one for two. Nah. I need two or four maybe. I need six three attempts in the series from Drummond. Six for three for six? Yeah. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:04:42 You're asking a lot. I need one a game, one, one attempt a game from Drumming. I need you to actually. just start acting completely outside Okay, one attempt the game So two for four You can do it Okay
Starting point is 01:04:54 Okay Yeah, you can do it Sounds good Let's finish out the Eastern Conference Pistons versus 8 seed Right now we don't know If it's been the Hornets Or the magic
Starting point is 01:05:02 Nothing much to say No we know It's gonna be Pistons versus Hornets Okay so I was gonna say There's absolutely no way That the magic are winning this game I was gonna say that But nothing much to say yet
Starting point is 01:05:12 We don't know who's gonna be the 1 8 So let's talk about these two motherfuckers In the play in tournament right now The Orlando Magic last night lost to a Philadelphia few 76ers and I don't come up here and say my only takeaway watching that game was
Starting point is 01:05:23 when we did our offensive players in the NBA rankings right now I put Palo Ban Carroll top 30 to give him grace and say that the run you've been doing in March has been real and I believe that you've made some strides in your game and I spent two years hating on Palo and Carol all the time I'm never the one is anything nice to say about him so I said right now I'll allow myself to believe in you
Starting point is 01:05:40 and say you're back on track this would be my time to be the guy to be nice to you right now I put you at like 25 or something like that that is on par with the worst rankings we've ever done in the show that is on par with mo saying jalen green and jeras walker top 10th position that is on par with donovan saying kairi isn't top 15 back a few years ago and he was great that is the worst thing i've ever said on the show and if i ever say anything good with palo mackero again i want to see 150 comments calling me the meanness of names you could imagine
Starting point is 01:06:07 that long for last night seven for 22 if i ever believe in a march run ever again shoot me on site. 0 for 5 from 3. I see y'all all the time. All the time people see me at the gym. They say, oh, is you so-and-so? And I have very kind interactions. Kill me.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Minus 17 for the game. Minus 17. I am so unbelievably sick of Palo van Carrow basketball. Remember the text I sent you at the year? What you said? I would text on in the group chat randomly. And I'd be like, I fucking hate watching him play. And I was just like, behind closed doors,
Starting point is 01:06:40 I'll just be like, yo, I hate Palo Van Carro right now. Now we can say it in front of closed doors. in front of open doors. I despise everything about watching Palo Mancura right now. Now, you said that. Basically every 10 games, we get a text from Isaac. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:55 At like 7.30 midway through a magic game saying, I hate Palo. Last night, 721, watching Palo discuss me so much. We get the text very consistent. And it's things so much more now because I chose to believe in you. I spent four years not believing in you. And the moment I said,
Starting point is 01:07:12 you say the right things, you're doing the right things on the court. I believe you're focusing on slashing. You get possessions like this. There was one possession that was the most epitome of Palo Ban Carroll basketball. I think it was like the second quarter. There was a Jaylon Sugg's drive on the right wing,
Starting point is 01:07:26 collapsed in, got two defenders, swung it to Franz. They rotated on him, swung it to Palo on the left wing. He had Paul George on him in between the corner and the left wing, right? So Paul George decides to help off the corner shooter and come to Palo Van Carro.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Palo Van Ciro pump fakes like he's in drive to his left, and blow by the closing out Paul George. Just pump fakes, stops, stands it for about three seconds. The corner shooter's wide open. Doesn't throw it to him. I think I'd stand it for three seconds. And then ends up doing my two dribbles and a mid-range miss over Paul George. Completely kills the ball swinging around.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Could have simply attacked the closeout or simply thrown into the corner, but decides to play the slowest, most, I can't even call it, whatever methodical means when your methods are just dumb as rocks, whenever you're thinking about something in the method I'd do something trying to be tactical, but you're just thinking like fucking cartoons in your brain. that's what he was doing we got put the laptop away this has nothing to do with numbers
Starting point is 01:08:19 he says everything to do but what we saw last night he had Tom and Jerry running around his head and did nothing and ended the possession he does that so much it's infuriating
Starting point is 01:08:30 to watch the style of play he does right now and at this point like I believe Palo when he said I looked it in the mirror and saw like
Starting point is 01:08:41 oh maybe I do need to make some changes It's like maybe it is me. I believe him and I believe that that stretch afterwards was real. But it's very much like when somebody's like, man, I got to get my life together. And they just go crazy and they're like, you know what? I'm not eating sugar. I'm not eating fat, no carbs, no nothing, straight, kid, everything.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I'm doing it two month fast. Exactly. Two months fast. I'm doing 75 hard. I'm reading 10 books a day. Yeah, you can do that for like five days maybe. And then it just gets very hard. And then a box combo sounds real taste.
Starting point is 01:09:13 That sound like me for a life. You literally described me The last like five years With my New Year's resolution I'll be saying I'm R.O. Palo. I'm glad you said New Year's resolution You're describing Palickering
Starting point is 01:09:33 Is a New Year's resolution gym goer You go to Planet Fitness on January 2nd Pack the fuck out We're here No benches No benches, no squat racks, none of it. And he, like, when we are in these pressure situations, and honestly, even, not even
Starting point is 01:09:51 pressure situations, just a regular, regular season game. But when you are in these situations, you are going to just revert back to what you are, what you are most comfortable with, and you haven't created enough habits to play the style of basketball that your team needs. I feel so bad for Desmond Bain because Desmond Bain, since that rough start that he had, has been hooping the entire. year and everything that the magic wanted to get out of Desmond Bain, everything that they hoped for that that they were going to get when they traded for him, they got. You got some,
Starting point is 01:10:22 you got some more playmaking. You got some more offensive juice. You got timely shots from Desmond Bain. You wanted, you wanted Bain to be the compliment to your two forwards. And obviously Franz has had this very up and down near, but the face of your franchise, the guy, Palo, is right there not doing at all the foundational stuff that you need for your guy. And there's times on offense that was rough that you pointed out that was rough there's a time defensively where i i think for me i was like okay i'm kind of done there was a loose rebound and he let adenbona just run to the ball right in front of him yes did not did not dive out for it did not hustle for it you see all all around this game so many people are making so many different hustle plays and i saw play last
Starting point is 01:11:06 night where i did not see that from palo and that moment for me on top of on top of just not playing good basketball, that was the moment for me where I was like, yeah, I'll check out this year. That's the main thing. I came up here talking about how like, yo, it's so like sobering to sit down and experience what the Orlando Magic fans that are experiencing right now where you have to sit down. You have you realize you're paying this guy up to like $54, $55 million
Starting point is 01:11:30 up until the year like 2031 or something. The extension kicks in this offseason. That's disgusting work. We've said it many times the show. It hasn't started yet. To see him not even give hustle or effort on little things like that or even run hard or really like give it damn it feels like he's just waiting for the season to be over and we try to recalibrate his whole entire brain yeah at this point in time it's never been more finished than ever and i have hope you know that things will be better but when it comes to see i hope their seasons over like you know what we said about the
Starting point is 01:12:00 um minnesota timbles how we want to see them get their back ruptured brother i want their linda magic exeterated in the quickest way possible i want them to be literally being out of the fucking universe. Wreck him. They don't need to exist anymore. And there will be, there will be changes, right? We've heard basically,
Starting point is 01:12:22 what do we go from here? Disintegrated? I don't know. Yeah. And we've, we've been talking about it for I think a lot longer. They need to be abducted by alien something,
Starting point is 01:12:31 bro. Like, they don't need to be here. I've led you mentioned, you still have hope. So obviously they're going to fire your mom Osley. He's good as gone. And DeSelle is going to be,
Starting point is 01:12:38 we have a new coach in here and next year we have one more chance, right? And hope is the right phrasing to go about this conversation. Because for two years, when I've been such a Palo hater, it's been, I think Palo is overrated right now at the stage of his development. He's not this top 10 or even top 15 player you want to be. But surely one day he'll get there, right?
Starting point is 01:12:55 One day he'll unlock. Wait, go back to be so. I say, I'm being distracted by it. This is crazy. I was distracted. People were saying that he is already top 15 player, right? So he said, okay, I don't think that's true at all. I think he's fundamentally flawed.
Starting point is 01:13:10 but one day surely his skill will catch up to his physical abilities and we'll get this unlocked version of what will probably be a superstar, right? Held out on the hope. That hope has been the basis of when he started playing well a couple months ago. I said, okay, I believe it. It sounds like maybe we're getting back on track, right? I no longer have that hope. You will no longer hear me give the sugarcoat a bullshit about he's bad now,
Starting point is 01:13:31 but maybe the vision will come true next year. I think I said this was the year. It had to be happened. I said that in the preseason. Shit didn't happen. I am so unbelievably done. If he ends up being great, I would like to be proven wrong and say that, okay, I was a hater and so forth.
Starting point is 01:13:44 You guys win. I will no longer say, I'm going to be with you in the future, yada, yada, yada. It's cooked. The vision of building around Palo is dead to me. We talked to Lowe when he was on. He's like, hey, you guys are giving up on the 23-old hours? Yes. And I was like, listen, you can have one more year.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I'll give up on the 24-year-old version of Palo. So I'm going to stick to that. I'm going to give him one more year. However, like you said, it's never been more over than now. I think that what Palo, the best that Palo is going to look is in like five or seven years when you're scrolling Twitter and they have the videos where they black out the player and it's like, can you name who this is based off their moving pattern? And I was like, this is Bra.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Yeah. This is Blake Griffin. This is Jayette. And then all of a sudden, you look up in his, in his palo. That right now, I feel, is the crux of the people who are still 10 toes down. I'm probably one toe down. I got my big toe on the scale. That's pretty much.
Starting point is 01:14:35 And that's tough. You used to be 12 toes down. I really I really wanted it now the only way that you can reel me back in and at this point I'm not you have to do the palo's the quote-unquote palo stuff of you have this game against the hornets I'm going to need you to play well you have you uh if you win that game you have a playoff series I'm going to need you to play well I just haven't seen you play well in literally nine months now so that's that's very hard or at least consistently at this point in time yeah I'm just like I just want the season to be over. No matter what, you
Starting point is 01:15:07 lose against the Hornets or you go up and you face against the Detroit Pins, you're going to be out soon. You know, your couch is going to be very familiar with you very soon. If I'm in the magic, yes. We'll get to them. But yes, at this point in time, if I'm Orlando Magic, like, you have to just follow the pill, like, yeah, this is
Starting point is 01:15:25 going to be our guy, but he doesn't necessarily need to be prioritized as someone who's making $50 million. And I'm like, at this point in time, what you got to do is look at someone like Jalen sucks who is you know, movable. He wasn't, him and Apollo clearly aren't the best fit or pairing together at all.
Starting point is 01:15:41 And sell high because you gave the fucking world for Desmond Bain, who's been holding up on his end. So I think that's like one of the first things you do and figure out what's the next pivot while having this number one overall pick on your team who's just like consuming so much.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I think you sell high. You trade the fuck out of him. Try to get you honest. So high on who, Paulo? Pallup and Carol. He's on clearance. You can't sell high in him. You're right, right. So hi. So has the wrong word. I think you try to sell whatever way you can I don't know I don't know what there is too much he's kind of unclear as too
Starting point is 01:16:10 I think you convince the bucks to say here he is Palo and if it needs to be sucks too both of them for Janus I think you pull that both Whatever you got to do I think you pull that fucking trigger That's a lot
Starting point is 01:16:23 Whatever you gotta do I think I'm obviously hyperbolic It's just one game so He can come out when this game is a hoax No you're not though It's not just one game Sure sure you know like we've talked about this For years
Starting point is 01:16:33 For years now, and the times that we've been able to have breaks have been in, in playoff series where he has had some semblance of playoff rising. And we're not going to get that this year because they're probably going to lose to the Hornets. And so now you have multiple, multiple years of inconsistent, inefficient offense, and we've been waiting for the leap and it has to happen. So it's not, it's not just one game. And if they do make a decision like that, I don't think it's hyperbolic. I don't think it's, I don't think it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:59 I don't think it's overreactionary. I think you are just taking. in the information and now you finally have the sample size that you feel comfortable with. Yeah, it's not hyperbolic at all. It would be, it's still bold because he is still a number one overall pick face your franchise that has had good moments
Starting point is 01:17:15 and is theoretically ascending. He's not in his prime years yet. You just gave him a contract. So I won't say it's an easy decision like in reality of being that GM but it's definitely a hyperbolic. We've had years now of very little improvement and very little signs
Starting point is 01:17:29 that this type of offense will go anywhere. So if you didn't know who's number one of all pick, it wouldn't be a hard discussion at all. Oh, yeah, 100%. You're absolutely right. You're right. The investment tied to him makes things so much worse. It's emotionally difficult. Yeah. And like the investment tied to him is also like Desmond Bain. You wouldn't have given up all those fucking picks if you knew Pollo wasn't that guy. You know, you wanted to give every whole discussion about Pala has been, oh, this guy
Starting point is 01:17:52 needs more space and yeah, let's get one of the best and more underrated players in the league in Desmond Bain you mortgage is like four first round picks. I think you lost control of five first round picks when it comes to picks and all that too, which is backbreaking. also considering all the new changes that's been happening in the league when it comes to the whole lottery conversation. So it's like at that point in time it's like fuck, right? Like this is where first round picks are more vibrant than fucking ever at this moment at time.
Starting point is 01:18:14 What can we do? Yeah. And listen. Next play on game hasn't happened yet. They could win this game. They can move on to the first round of the playoffs and he could show out and shut us up, right? But like I said earlier, I don't care if you prove you wrong. I'm no longer going to mitigate it and be like, oh, maybe he'll do this.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Put me on the hate list, Magic fans. You can do that. I am no longer believing him at all. If I'm wrong, rubbing in our faces, go for it. No more hope is being said on the show. I think they need an, I can't wait until they fired Jamal Mosley. I'm surprised he can't do it already yet. You saw that?
Starting point is 01:18:46 I'm sure y'all saw the report where someone was like, or someone said that Jamal Mosley, no matter what he does in the postseason, he has gone no matter what. He has one of the greatest runs of all time to the NBA finals. He's still gone. That's insane. That's a Dylanbrook shit. Under no circumstance, will Jamal Mosley be back?
Starting point is 01:19:01 Bro, one of the, it's like, you don't understand how much it bothers me. Seeing Palo not try hard. That's one of the easiest things to do. You mentioned Delen Brooks. All he does is try fucking hard, bro. He just be irritating and running up all the time, being mad quick at times for no reason. He has urgency. Pala has none of that.
Starting point is 01:19:19 That's the worst thing about his game right now. Fuck the shots. Fuck the slow processing and all that. Fuck the turnovers. Bro, can you try? Can you run hard? That's all I'm asking for at this point. That's nothing. That's bare minimum. Can't even do that.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Tough. It's tough. New Gen Andrew Wiggins. I don't mean, no, man. I don't know where this goes, man. You think it's worse? Yes. It's just different. I don't know. Worse or I don't know. It's a really different circumstance. Yeah, it's different. It's different. I think his career can be saved, but it's so hard when you already committed that amount of money to him already, I guess, similar to Andrew Wiggins. You're going to have to like find your pivots, but they lost so many picks already, so it's hard.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Yeah, and again, we'll get into it further when they're actually eliminated and talk about what what they actually might need to do the summer. Well, plenty of time to get into that. Let's talk about the Hornets. On the other side that's playing tournament game, who we think will probably make the A-C to play against the Pistons. What a thriller. What a thriller.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Concanipple. The lights were bright as shit. Those lights are blinding. Concanibble, I think it was 0-4-6 from 3. Did absolutely nothing well in this game. That's too much. Got benched a couple times. back in. Tough scene.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Tough scene. Not entirely surprising that a rookie as soon as the Bryce get light for the first time. Well, since the lights get bright for the first time.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Not entirely surprising he'd have a stinker, right? I mean, to that level, yeah. Yeah, I mean, like shooters have bad games. It's like,
Starting point is 01:20:46 it makes sense, I guess, unfortunate because they rely on him heavily and they almost lost the playing tournament game because of it because they need him so badly. But thank God for Kobe White saving the Eastern Conference
Starting point is 01:20:56 playoffs by hitting a crazy three to close the game, forced overtime. The Hornets ended up winning. off of a truly, truly, ass backwards lamello ball performance in which he was also a fucking brick from three, a skill set that is the bedrock of his scoring profile normally,
Starting point is 01:21:13 but he was killing these motherfuckers inside the arc, slashing, which he normally doesn't do well at all. Complete inverse of who he is the player normally, but he came up big inside the arc. That's what makes him so special, and that's why when it comes to how I ranked him personally on my top 40 offensive players, is his ability to just simply access the court anywhere and be unstoppable when it comes to,
Starting point is 01:21:37 hey, he has the ability to go from here to the fucking freakdown line in literally two seconds with the crazy set of moves. And he's so unpredictable. And that type of juice is why he is like he will always be able to play in any setting on the court, no matter what the situation is offensively. First of all, I love, he never does this. He did it one time. That, this is what makes him special.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Well, no, he does, when it comes to accessing areas of the court, he does that. Sure, sure. He just doesn't usually finish. Yeah, when it comes to finish, I'm not saying. I'm talking about accessing areas in the court. That's what I'm. It was just a funny juxtaposition. But no, you're right.
Starting point is 01:22:09 The fact that he has the handle to access the court, like you said, and, like, be dynamic as a playmaker and stuff is what makes him good. What makes his on-off number so well? And the scoring came along in this game. Normally he doesn't. So when that happens, this team is fucking filthy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:23 I mean, him finishing, that's none of my business. That's where I, like, go ahead and tower down that conversation. But he can get. get there though. That's none of my business. I don't know if he's going to hit the lay or what. I don't know, but he's going to make something happen. I just go and turn my eyes and look at the perimeter, see if he's going to kick it out.
Starting point is 01:22:39 But then he did. Good for him. If he wasn't finishing outlandishly well, it would have been a disaster game because he could not hit a three. But he rose to the occasion and it was a huge part of them winning as well as Kobe White, obviously being this game alone, like the best trade deadline acquisition in the league. Yeah, Kobe White, Brandon Miller also saved him. Miles Bridges saved them. Oh, big entertainment. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like those three guys, um, it really was crazy when you look at like Lamello and Khan and them going two for 22 from, from three. Dude, the two like statistically, the two best three point shooters in the league by mix. That's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:21 And one, you're lucky. Because we had a conversation, uh, right before, right before the game, we're talking about like how, like, what's the line that you would kind of, that you would kind of have to see from Lamello, for you not to think like, because this is a bad dog game. He'd be on that. You know he'd be on playing the Lamello stuff. Oh, he loves the Mello's playing stats. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:41 I've just been stating facts. Now, mind you, in the, we've had two bad games like a couple years ago and then the man shot two for 16. Lucky as hell. He made that layout because it was going to look a lot different. But also that I do think that like this is part of the, we've been talking about just like the craziness of Lamello that you are 2 for 16 from 3. You hit the game winner.
Starting point is 01:24:03 You take out BAM had a buy in the first quarter. Like so much stuff was going into that game. And the decision making across the board was wild. Because I don't feel like that was just, oh, you know, shots weren't falling. You're taking, you know, you're taking step back 30 footers. That's his game. That's what he does. which is part of part of the reason why at times especially last year even whenever he was averaging 30
Starting point is 01:24:32 there was a lot of concern about what are we doing with with lamello because i do think that the shot selection is crazy now if we're pushing this forward to the series against Detroit that's where i think it's going to get super super scary because i think that's going to be the the shot to get there you can you can cross up and drive on on Tyler Hero when you get that that matchup, right? You can do that on Norm Powell. Try doing that on Asar. Try doing that on Kay. It's going to be
Starting point is 01:25:03 much, much harder. So the threes are going to have to fall for him in the round against Detroit, especially if we get the more regular version of Lamello where the inside the arc scoring isn't as great as it was in the playing game. You mentioned him
Starting point is 01:25:19 taking out badmada bio. Lots of discourse around that. Obviously, trips him accidentally. Some people think they'll look on purpose, including Eric Sposha, whatever, that created a lot of discourse. He didn't get suspended, but he got fined. Nick Wright went on TV and called the Mello Ball a clown and went on this big rant about how he doesn't trust him
Starting point is 01:25:35 on or off the court and all this stuff and how this incident plus everything he does off the court and his style of play is a culmination of everything he hates about the Mello Ball and why he doesn't trust him to leave his franchise. Called him a clown. An absolute clown. Lanzel Ball fires back. Folk saying clown with a perm. Fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:25:53 With a perm. Nick Wright says actually these are my natural curls bitch This is this is volume That was quite funny I kind of think Lemel ball did an accident It was such a quick bang bang thing That unfortunate didn't look like malice to me
Starting point is 01:26:11 But I get it I understand There was another clip of him Tripping Bam Same situation where he's on the floor Bam's running back And he trips him earlier I get it I get it
Starting point is 01:26:21 Yeah it is something where At least in this situation it was multiple it was crazy they didn't review it at all and they they review basically everything they didn't review it i do think i do think that he should have been um ejected and i think that he i think that he should have been ejected and then if not ejected then suspect make a flagrant too huh like a flagrant too yeah that's fair yeah it got upgraded to a to a flagrant but i i do think that afterwards like doing that is is wild like once you start reaching at people's legs and stuff and even if it is like involuntary it is still like a wild move so yeah i i probably would
Starting point is 01:26:54 would have rejected him, but he's not, he got fine. He's gonna be in the next game. He's lucky that he doesn't have the reputation. Because if someone like, Draymond did this shit, yo, you're gone for like the rest of the year. But see,
Starting point is 01:27:04 like I do believe Draymond would trip somebody. Yeah, I kind of believe he fell, bonked in, he was like, oh, like moving your hand in towards yourself. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:11 I kind of do believe that that wasn't like, let me trip him. It's like, yeah, he probably should have had the mind to be careful with a leg, I'm sure. But I also understand,
Starting point is 01:27:19 you fall hard, things moving quick. Like, watching a slow mode, like oh why didn't he just like not do that that shit moves fast as fuck if there if there wasn't literally another clip of him doing the exact same thing to the exact same player in the in the in the exact same like area of the floor see that's kind of tough again when it's slowed down it's going to look tough and i get it i'm not saying like it was irresponsible clearly hurt bam
Starting point is 01:27:42 lost in the game i get it but i i just i think these move things really fast you think he had the bind to think let me trip this motherfucker also let's pause on that real quick i'm going to once you disagree. I understand. You say, yes, we should have had BAM that lost us the game. No. That did not. You had an opportunity to win that game multiple times in regulation and in overtime. And your players were the ones who did not make shots. Your players were the ones who were taking step back 28 footers when you had 12 seconds on the clock and you had opportunities to ISO and get in the paint and you wanted to take bad shots. It is not my fault that Tyler Hero had bad shot selection that he did not want to take
Starting point is 01:28:22 or that you cannot draw up a proper play to get a better shot than that. That is not on us. That's not on the Hornets. That's not on Lamello. That is on the Miami Heat. So I do not want to hear, oh, Bam, not being here, lost us the game.
Starting point is 01:28:36 That did not happen. Okay. That did not happen. Yeah, heat culture. That was crazy. Talley Hero was in a straight 2K stuff. There was one play. He got the ball, offense rebound, inside the arc around the, like,
Starting point is 01:28:49 left early, like, dunker spot. area straight dribbled backwards turned his back to the rim ran to the corner turned around hit a fading three that's a two k move dribbling on hit three straight two k move and the final shot before overtime he like dribbled the ball out and did this like kind of like a leaning wing three pointer two k move do you think he's dame it was crazy bro i'm not gonna do like a reggie muller type moment i ain't going to lie it was a little scared pretty god now man i wanted them i wanted the hordes to win so bad but to talk two more seconds about the miami he because that's how i got for you What the fuck do we do with Norman Powell, man?
Starting point is 01:29:22 Trade him or Hero. We make a choice. He was an all-star this year. He was. That, like, probably was one of the worst things to happen in his career. Honestly. In his career? No, he's up.
Starting point is 01:29:33 I don't know, man, because, like, now, do you know how much money he probably, like, lost because they're at? Because of making the All-Star team? Because this past, this performance right here that he did. Like, not being able to be on the course. Yeah, it's not even, like, that's, they just can't play them together. Like, it's not because he's playing bad. It's just you can't survive with him and hero out there, which who couldn't scene is coming. It's only the thing we talked about all year.
Starting point is 01:29:52 When we did our New Year's resolution, one question every team asked, it's the only the thing I pointed out that can these two guys play together? Can you get the best version of them? Clearly, Eric Spolster said, no, we're putting an All-Star off the bench. And, I mean, that's a whole other conversation about like, should he have been an All-Star and I, which I'll save the hating for another day. I already did that back when it happened.
Starting point is 01:30:10 So you go watch the February episodes to get the opinions on that. I'm going to say the Norman Powell hate. Yeah, we've been there done that. They got to pick one, right? They have to move one of them, clearly. Yes, they do. That's sick. do you move? Both of them can go, I don't care. They can both go on.
Starting point is 01:30:25 So Hero hasn't made one modicum of improving the past two years. If you're going to pick one, I would pick Norman. Faster, for sure. But you can get more for Hero. That's why. That's why I would. Oh, you pick to keep Norman. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:36 I would stay with Power, Trade Hero. I think he has more value. You can get some for Hero. Like, Hero going to another team could fit the team and have some value. You can get something of merit there. Please. At this state, at this point, Milwaukee should be on their hands and knees begging that Tyler Heroes in
Starting point is 01:30:51 Hero on the Honor Street Hero where and picks He's from I think he's from Wisconsin He is That'd be cool Yeah it'd be cool It'd be real great to watch them
Starting point is 01:31:02 in 20 games together in Milwaukee It'd be fucking sick Yeah nice one dude Yeah presumably the hornets are gonna come out This playing tournament And play the pistons Should be a good series I mean if the hornets played to their standard
Starting point is 01:31:14 They did in the second half of the season In which they had one of the greatest Net ratings of the last 20 years of NBA basketball in the half court should be a thrilling series I still pick the pistons Yes it's gonna be the pistons for sure The Hornets are just like a year away
Starting point is 01:31:27 Or offseason away And four? I do No I do the hornets have been way too good for four I do it the way they shoot You can't you can't Way too good for it And defend they haven't been a terrible defense I think I think Detroit clamps
Starting point is 01:31:39 I don't know No chance you can't clamp the hornets offense Now I do think that what we saw from Kahn Is some real rookie shit So like I do think it stands the reason He'll continue to have bad series he's also like played a lot of games that's his first rookie season
Starting point is 01:31:52 we talked about rookie wall he was able to evade it for a long time last 15 games the year he was shooting bricks stands to reason the body's struggling to keep up with that I don't think we'll see a good con series against the Pistons at all
Starting point is 01:32:02 so that'll lead me to say the Pistons win but the way the Hornets have been playing at the level they play in the regular season you could argue they could beat the Pistons I've not you got it you got it
Starting point is 01:32:11 you could argue but I don't think they will translate that so that's why I'm not going to say that if we have the con rookie wall I'm saying without that. You're right. But if that wasn't happening, the level they're playing out,
Starting point is 01:32:22 you could argue it. Yeah. At the current stage that we're at, with Kahn's situation, with the fact that at, at least in my mind, currently, I don't have a lot of faith in Lomelo
Starting point is 01:32:36 to be this, like, crazy, crazy score in a series against Detroit and the defenders that they have. The level to which Kobe White ascended was ridiculous. the level to which Miles Bridges ascended was while you're going to need a lot of that
Starting point is 01:32:52 to happen. And I think that Detroit just has, they just have something for them. They got answer zero. Yeah. They do. That's why I do think that even though that the Hornets, everything that they've done is completely real, I am that, I'm just that high on Detroit in the series against. If this series does happen, I think I got the
Starting point is 01:33:08 Pistons, obviously, but I think it'll probably be like a tough six game series. Yeah, I think five or six. If it's five, because everything you're saying, the Pistons just like show their next level and the players on the hornets that carry them aren't able to translate to the playoffs, I can C-5. I still struggle to believe they wouldn't get a single game.
Starting point is 01:33:25 But yeah, I'll go with Pistons and Six as well. I think they'll get a couple. That's going to be a series. It's going to be an incredible series. Hopefully Conn can bounce back and have some good games. If Con can play at his level, it's different. This will be one of the best series in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:33:38 In the first round, I should say. Outside of, yeah, outside of the Timberwolves and Nuggets, 100%. Could be better, honestly. If Khan is playing well and playing at his level, it could be the best series in the first round easily. Man, I need it so. I need them to take care of business, please. Oh, we got the worst of conference.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Yeah, we have two. One and two. Spurs versus Trailblazers. Trailblazers beat the Phoenix Suns in that playing tournament. Denny goes fucking nuclear, has 40 points, goes ridiculous. Suns just kind of fall flat. They don't got his talent for that. When Denny's going to play like James Hardin, it's tough to beat them.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Now that Denny and the Spurs face off against each other, can the Trailblazers get a game? I don't think any of us can come up here and say it's going to be a series. how long can they push this? And now I think they're getting swept. Yeah, I agree. I think they're getting swept too. But I think Castle and Denny are going to get into a fight.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I think Denny plays so physical. And dealing with that for four games and dealing with the physicality that Castle plays with on the other side. I feel like those two, by minimum, second half of game two, I feel like that matchup is going to be so interesting. and even if punches aren't thrown, we're getting some type of altercation, home-me-back situation between those two because that's going to be super fun. We talk a lot about,
Starting point is 01:34:55 or not we, the world talks a lot about Danny's playstyle, the freethore merchantness of it and all that stuff. What do we actually think about his playstyle and like his opinion on him? Because if we dance around it and make like half jokes, like he's not a fun watch clearly. Is he like an unethical hooper?
Starting point is 01:35:08 Like what do you actually think? Because he does some of the flailing stuff, does some of the bruns and stuff. But most of his foul merchant stuff is just like running as hard as he can into somebody's chest kind of like Janus back in the day when people were calling him a free throw merchant because he just like halfback died every time
Starting point is 01:35:22 that's kind of what Denny does and on one hand I feel like I can't get mad at that kind of hypocritical to say the guy that slashes a lot with a lot of effort and force draws a lot of fouls like duh but he really does like look at your chest and sprint into you like in a very like borderline dangerous way yeah I mean it's a very aggressive play style
Starting point is 01:35:39 and it's like in the playoffs who knows how it's gonna end up for end up against the San Antonio Spurs. But I do think that it could take you, it'll save you at times. And it'll help carry you sustain a decent level offensively, which is why they're in this place and why they're here in the first place. But I don't know if it'll like, it's not a razor necessarily. I don't think it will change anyone's life necessarily.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Do you respect Denny's fruit throwness compared to others? Like I think up here we've agreed that like the Shea stuff is a little overblown. That like, of course, he sells things. but like it's mostly on the merit of him being hard to guard versus before they changed the rules tray which is throwing his body around like they had to change the rules because that was actually like exploitive even like we've all said brunson does that at times too where it's a bit dramatic and annoying where does denny fall on that actually um probably somewhere in the middle of i think it's the the foul being stuff for for me i think the times where i get the most upset with
Starting point is 01:36:39 it is when it looks like your sole intention on that position was to draw the file. Yeah. Is that what he does? Because he really does like sprints into people. So a lot of times you see somebody just put their head down and that's kind of the point. Yeah. Is like I like I don't I don't know if I'm going to get the shot up, but I know that I'm going to get this file, which it's a, it's obviously a very, very tough line of it works and it's effective. And you want to respect physicality.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Yeah. But and also And this is part of the thing with Like why I hated Hardin back back then too Because like he was just doing what the rules allowed him to do James Harden was was playing in a way and was was drawing contact And forcing people to play in a certain style But that doesn't mean that I have to like it
Starting point is 01:37:29 And I don't Unethical It's like it probably if we're if it's either ethical or unethical or unethical I think I'm going to lean the side of unethical, but it's not like horrendous. But I'm not a fan. I'm not, it's not like you say, it's not my favorite style. Yeah. It's not horrendous because like I said, it's based on physicality rather than flailing.
Starting point is 01:37:50 So people are like, you got to respect that a little bit. I don't know. Like it's the flailing version of physicality. Like he runs incredibly fast. It's like people say football players who, where they're just like trying to muscle you. We're like, I don't know. It crosses the line of like, you're being overly physical. Like I don't even know if you actually believe.
Starting point is 01:38:07 if you're going to get a layup off. Like, if you're, Yonah tried to finish over people when you ran at them. You're trying to finish through me every time, which, fine. If you're that fast, go for it. But there is a lot of shoulder to chest on purpose, I feel like. I also feel like it's partly with Denny, but also with the league of barreling into people. A bunch more of those should be offensive fouls. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:32 And the, like, you are, you are creating this contact. And so that's where, like there were even times in this game where he's going head down, going to the basket, throwing his chest and shoulders into people, and then arguing for calls and arguing for Ann once. If that's how you want to play, fine. But I don't want you. I don't like the idea of you being like, yeah, we're going to play this physical style of playing. And then now you want every single touch foul. You aren't necessarily getting offensive foul as much as I feel like you should.
Starting point is 01:39:03 So there's that aspect of it But if he's also This game It was just crazy Like he was just amazing in this game Where for some of the games in the regular season Like ah He's just out here
Starting point is 01:39:18 Yeah No if you drop from 40 and 10 Like yeah It's obviously an incredible game You don't get that with foul baiting But yeah there's times A regular season where it's like Man it's it's gonna translate
Starting point is 01:39:25 It did in this game Yeah this well this next series Against the Spurs For I think Denny of Dia And how far his play style can take you is obviously like the ultimate test when you have the probably best room protector that anyone's ever seen in a goddamn life in when we go have seven blocks yeah how far can this take you how far is this going to take the troblasers uh i think the only interesting
Starting point is 01:39:46 thing outside of that is that i want to see in this series it's like yo man remember a couple years ago we used to see scoot henderson and wembe getting battles back in back in school was in the g league and wemby was still playing for france when he was like 17 years old i remember those classic battles, people were tuning in to G-League games. No one was ever doing that, ever, right? That was the only instance. That was like the peak G-Leel experience. Scoot every single time would just have red in his fucking eyes
Starting point is 01:40:12 every time he saw when be down there. And he would try to give him buckets. And I want to see one more play of that. And my prediction is, I think Scoot's going to get one in on him. He's an eye on one possession, and then he's going to score. All outside of that, nothing else is interesting in this series. I guess Kling is interesting, too, to see how. how he holds up against him, but what do you expect from such a tower like him?
Starting point is 01:40:36 Yeah. Yeah, I think for San Antonio, it really is just about them. They're crazy, crazy favorites in this series. And so everyone is expecting them just to walk all over Portland. The things that we've been talking about in terms of Castle in the playoffs, Derek Harper, we just saw Khan in the play in for the first time. And the lights were bright. Does the same thing happen to Dylan Harper?
Starting point is 01:41:02 Dierra Fox, are you fitting, are you fitting in? When it's the playoff side, you should walk over these people. There are going to be close games. How are you going to operate in late game situations? There's a lot that I think San Antonio can work through and kind of warm up as you go into the second round. I don't think that Portland is going to test them for real for real. So it's probably a four game series with San Antonio.
Starting point is 01:41:29 I think I also expect. Wembe Tab, like, he's in, I think he should have, like, 30 this series, honestly, because this perimeter defense is tough. Drew Holiday's there. Scoot Henderson made, has made massive improvements. Tomani Kamara is there. There's just so many bodies that they have defensively for the guys on the perimeter. And I don't know how well Stefan Castle, three-point shooting will hold up necessarily.
Starting point is 01:41:51 And I think this is a series that you need, not necessarily need from it because I think they're going to win regardless because they have to, they just have to play defense. And they'd be playing defense on their own sometimes against them. themselves. So that's the thing for them to deal with. But I do expect like when me to average like maybe 27 this series. Nice. Okay. Last one. Thunder versus eight seed. Right now the Warriors just beat the Clippers. And they're going to be facing off against the winner of the 910 game. You got to blur your nose? Yeah. Snotty guy. So now we're going to get what? Spurs versus Warriors to face off against the
Starting point is 01:42:29 Thunder. I mean, I think obviously. That's his first. Sons versus Warriors. Obviously, I think we want to see the Warriors win that game. You want to see Warriors versus Thunder? Yes and no.
Starting point is 01:42:38 I want to see Steph win the game. I don't want to see the Warriors get clamped by the Thunder for four games straight. I don't want to watch the Suns in the playoffs, man. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'd rather see the Warriors
Starting point is 01:42:48 actually get clamped than the Suns. Yeah. That's fair. And listen, I got what I came here for. Steph had a crazy game, got Kauai, and the Clippers are about it here.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Listen, We're done. You know, the work is over. They're not winning anything. Like, if they play the Thunder, they're probably going to get swept. They had to get so many contributions from all across the team last night. And this is like what you've seen for the Warriors,
Starting point is 01:43:17 even last year to a certain extent, but for real this year after Jimmy got hurt, they just have to work so hard for everything. And especially when you're playing elite defenses, like you're working that hard against the Clippers. What do you think you're going to have to do against the Thunder? and Al Horford had to make four threes in the fourth quarter. KP had to come out here and really start knocking down threes from 30 feet.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Guy Santos was out here hooping for real, keeping everybody in the game while Steph was in and out the locker room, all this other stuff. They're going to get clapped. However, once again, you have Steph Curry. He can go nuclear at any time. It probably will be more fun. But it's not going to amount to too too much in a first round context.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Yeah. Either way, I think we're going to. going to see a thunder sweep. It's just a matter of who wins that game. At this point, I'm just looking at the thunder. All I care about is the manner in which you win. Can we see you come out, stomp them, let me see a good J-Dade of series, get him going in a place that we feel like he's a good rhythm carrying into the real series in second, third round. Can we see them have? Not not see them have, but like figure out what the rotation is going to be with all these guards. Agent Mitchell has obviously made a big rise over the past year. I think we view him as a guy that can close
Starting point is 01:44:28 games for you. Yeah. Is Jeremy Kane going to be in this rotation whenever Everybody's healthy. Is Jalen Williams, the big one, going to be being able to be a stretch fire for you, shooting like he did in the regular season. Lots of moving parts here. That's what I'm looking for. Not as much can they win the series?
Starting point is 01:44:40 Yeah. Also, there's two things that we had to talk about from the playing game. One, as fine of a defensive performance as you will ever see from Draymond Green. Yeah. That was crazy.
Starting point is 01:44:55 My guy. Yeah. I mean, locking up Kauai had two points in the fourth and that was the two points came in like the last minute where everybody scrambled. It was like 15 seconds though. Yeah. It was embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:45:05 He clamped him multiple times. And it is, it is moments like that with with Dremont where it's like, yeah, this is one of, you know, in terms of just defenders, the versatility, all of it, whatever, whatever number you want to say for like post-merger, hey man, he's up there. You know, it's been a minute since I've seen someone get clamped like that, bro. honestly like that yeah it was it was pretty bad because he was he was guarding kawai off ball
Starting point is 01:45:36 was stealing the ball had had the inbound steel that he had the nine still making rotations at the rim everything that that draymond it's it's really funny whenever the words have like closed games like this because you see the real two-man game between stephen draymond yeah and drayman handles everything defensively and he makes all the splash plays you go on the other side and they're running in this moving screen and roll and stuff and knocking down in every single three, it's really cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:02 So. Yeah. But also Kauai, listen, you can't get clamped like that. Like that's terrible. That is crazy. That is wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:09 And we fell victim to it last year, specifically me. Never, ever again, can we go through the cycle of revisionist history of what Kauai like, like, oh my God, Pete Kauai is this and that?
Starting point is 01:46:24 This is back to back years. That you've had healthy Kauai in the playoffs and you've gone out. extremely sad. You're going to remember this playing game. This is crazy. He loves to play. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Do the game's bad or not? I mean, are they on basketball orphins? Let me know. The NBA says they don't. Let me know. That's the best argument that you have. But I know why I saw last night. When I saw last night.
Starting point is 01:46:47 To history, what I remember. Yeah. I will. I would. Because that's crazy. That's crazy. To not. No buckets?
Starting point is 01:46:55 Yeah. No bucket. It's unfortunate. that's why you don't finish in the nine seed win some fucking games so you don't have a miraculous second half of the season in which you have one of the best players in the world and you feel like you'll punch your chance in any series
Starting point is 01:47:06 get a top eight seed then that's so you don't lose in one day and this is what happens same thing we would say about the Hornets if they hadn't had the miraculous come back and win victory don't be the nine seed then if you're such a great team the second half of the year win more games exactly also Garland fought out tough dude he said he's playing on nine toes
Starting point is 01:47:22 he said he was never 100% all year yeah towards the end of that game he had like to hear that I would love to see him at 10 toes at some point. It's tough. I hate to hear that. I would love to hear him have all 10. It's tough, man.
Starting point is 01:47:31 It's tough. Cavaliers, they did their thing getting off on that early. As far as this year goes. Yeah, for this year. Yeah, because they know they have a one-year window. They don't lose it. They got to maximize.
Starting point is 01:47:41 If he has nine toes, you're never going to win a finals with a nine-toe man. That's fair. Meet nine-toe man. Me, nine-to-man, for sure. Again, hopefully next year he has 10 toes. Yeah. Now, I will say, now that we've done our predictions,
Starting point is 01:47:53 no upsets in the first round? Is that a mistake? Nope. No, no. What do you think would be the most likely one? What should we have the eye for? The most likely one? Okay, Hornets versus Pistons is the most upset factor possible,
Starting point is 01:48:04 just as the Hornets have been so unbelievable in the second half of the season that if you tell me that's real and it translates to 100% and they are the third best team in the league, that could happen. I think after that. That's a lot. Maybe I'll probably been on the Knicks and Hawks before that. There you go. Just because I want to respect the Piscence is a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:48:21 It has nothing to do with. Oh, if it comes back, game four or something like that, maybe some miraculous shit happens, but doubt it. Yeah. I think the 76ers, maybe. I don't even believe that. Oh, Raptors versus Cavs. That could be one.
Starting point is 01:48:34 That'll be so embarrassing, bro. So embarrassing. Based off of my predictions, I'm going to Minnesota and Denver. Yeah, it's always possible, too. So there's a few that could go that way. Yeah, let's do that. If we were to just call one upset this first round. Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Minnesota. You're in Minnesota, Isaac. Raptors Cavs? Yeah, I got Nick socks. I really, I have no faith in Toronto. Neither do I, but I got to call one. I didn't pick any upsets for reasons I got to pick one
Starting point is 01:48:58 I got to pick one I'm going with my Lakers I'm going with the Lakers That was kind of crazy That was kind of crazy Well Lakers is nuts I can't do
Starting point is 01:49:06 My Lakers Would that be the funniest Upset possible Yes 100% of most entertaining That was in them spirally too With the Lebron and the goat debate With one 41 year old
Starting point is 01:49:15 First round I mean people are gonna push it Someone already Old KD again People I'm gonna push it Me in two hands up It's me
Starting point is 01:49:24 him owning kd again would be so precious so so precious it would be cute precious she would like put some light in his eye 42 1 year old lebron yeah man he still got it against kd you will never be on top never a better a day in your life lebron is charmed now would be inside
Starting point is 01:49:41 what if orlando wins I guess bro I guess charles and then wins against the pistons yeah all right slow down what if they just go on the craziest three that's drunk talk that would be hilarious that would be the funny is how impossible.
Starting point is 01:49:55 Fuck, no, man. Would it be funnier if they beat the pistons or if the Warriors beat the Thunder? Funny. Funny? Oh, Orlando Magic. Funny?
Starting point is 01:50:04 Easyly. The Warriors being the Thunder wouldn't be funny. It would be awesome because the Warriors had one more in them, I guess. And it would be like, obviously, Thunder
Starting point is 01:50:11 had the target in the back to get lapped at. But it wouldn't be like hilarious. One, J.B. Bickshaps going to win coach of the year, I think. So, one,
Starting point is 01:50:20 that's just made a bronze. He's completely fake if they get upset by the magic. everything we said about the magic would that mean that Jamal mozzy keeps his job all of a sudden because he upset the one seed is palin good all of a sudden no matter what we're gonna test the limit no matter what not shit would be funny about the warriors beating um the okay okay see thunder because bro like at the end of the day it doesn't matter because they're getting a lottery pick because the
Starting point is 01:50:43 clippers lost ain't shit funny it'll be hilarious i'm not going to lie but all the talks you've been having about the thunder and that's yeah i'm gonna get first rounded by the real greatest point guard of all the time. Yeah. So like I think who beat you was the what makes it funny. Yeah. So like once he's losing it's funny no matter what, right? But losing to Steph is like, we're going to glaze stuff more than anything I think.
Starting point is 01:51:04 You do lose to Palo Ban Carroll and the fucking June Maryland of Magic. That's hilarious. All right. So we got that. Also, Cade, first team. It's on the news. Yes, Cade and Luca are allowed to make their teams. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:51:15 They go to NBA. They want their appeals. They got. The NBA got me. Jaylon. Get ready to speak second team, buddy. Oh, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Hell of down. He's way on. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to be surprised, I'm telling you how the media loves Jailum Browne. So who's not going to make it, Cade? Huh?
Starting point is 01:51:31 So who's not going to make it that? If Cade doesn't make first team, I'm rioting. He's 100% percent. I mean, he's not absurd. Bring the pitch force out. He played well. I do think if Cade is.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Gaines played. Is it a big difference? If he's the freaking number one seed. I agree. He said. And doing, doing what he's doing what he's doing. Like, I do think that he should be first team. over jail.
Starting point is 01:51:54 I agree, but I suppose it wouldn't be like outrageous if they went towards a guy on the two seed who played more games. Like, I wouldn't do it, but I'd understand. I understand the case. I'm still going to say that Katie is getting robbed, though. Okay, fair. Yeah. With that being said, that is the end of our playoff predictions.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Be Souls, what do you have for us today on Producer Corner? Producer Corner, I have a slideshow for y'all, man. You didn't play your song, dude? Oh, hold on. He's prepared, though. Yeah, I'm fair. He's in the live. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:21 All right, here we go. So. I have a slide show for y'all. Caption these TD3 pictures. Oh my God. I compiled some pictures. Caption these? Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Come up with a caption. First picture. I don't be captioning things. I'll have from Bussy. The Moad death note. That's funny. What do you captioned this? Hmm.
Starting point is 01:52:44 I have no idea. I'm trying to judge your facial expression. I ought to meme this. Like. Yeah, if you were to come over to meme, what would you put up top? Yeah, I'm trying to think. what does that facial expression bring out what do we what do we what emotion is he listening right now it seems it's very disappointment focus yeah and there's a death
Starting point is 01:53:03 known his hand so he's disappointed he's doing something about it yeah your life is over that's what this screams it's over okay I'm trying to think and I know I'm trying to give you something what's it scream to you B, B, so does you pick this one specifically um yeah I will say that how are you captioning these um because this is very like 2012 a mom-made pizza rolls type of me. And like I'm trying to get back in the headspace. You put out of death. And like I'm trying to get back in that headspace.
Starting point is 01:53:34 That was 13 years ago. Yeah, but I haven't captioned something quite a long time. I'd just be on Twitter sometimes tweeting. And I don't even do that no more. Honestly. But I will say, yeah, if I see this picture, someone wants to get rid of you. This guy should not be existing anymore. I think that doesn't know.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Me, when B. Souls. tries to make zero happen or something like that. 100%. Oh, yeah. 30? Yeah. 30 last night.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Cooked. All right. Next thing. He deserves that, by the way. That's fine. We have to go back to this because, mind you,
Starting point is 01:54:12 this is crazy. Bro, my mom sent me the clip. My mom sent me the clip and she was like, I'm sorry, this is hilarious. My mom also told me about the club.
Starting point is 01:54:21 She saw it too. I was talking last night. And she was like, the moment when you told Donovan, he was, wearing a Walmart outfit was hilarious. My mom also knows it. I'm crying.
Starting point is 01:54:33 You want the everyone's radar. You're in a household discussion. That's what I'm getting embarrassed in front of family? All right. So what's a retrospective on this moment? How are you feeling about it now? So I still feel bad. And I'm so walking out.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Maybe we don't need a caption. Just reflect on the pictures I show y'all. Yeah. And I was telling them when we were walking out. The worst part about this is that this day, I walked here, right? And so it takes like that, the walks like 45 minutes, 50 minutes, right? So I have to be out the house kind of quickly.
Starting point is 01:55:03 And I know that I just have to wake up and like get up and go. So I had this outfit just like ready. Overnight. Oh yeah, you laid it out right. Yeah, yeah. Like I had like I mentally knew what I was going to wear the next day. And like I just had my clothes set out. And like I was just going to brush my teeth, put on my clothes and then go.
Starting point is 01:55:25 And then I come in here and get called a Walmart He looked at it. He said, yeah, I'm killing the game today with this one. It wasn't even like that. It was just out of peer efficiency. And then and then that happened, I was like, damn, that's stuff. For the record, next time you wear this vest on the pod, how are you going to pull it off? Yeah, that's a problem. It's what you, black pants and a standard ass gray hoodie like you're wearing a work uniform?
Starting point is 01:55:46 But that's, so I've been, listen, I've been trying. I've been like. You've been workshopping this fit? Yes, yes. but every time that I put it on, like I was gonna, I had like a white tea. That's the thing. I had a white teeze.
Starting point is 01:56:03 I don't think anything could ever fix this blue best because of what it's associated with. That's my problem. I was putting just different, just whatever colors underneath it. And every time it just looks like I'm working at Walmart just inside. Instead of pushing cars outside.
Starting point is 01:56:17 It's too much of a staple in society. It's either you're on Amazon Walker or you have hell of boxes and you're working for Amazon. Well, the obvious answer is you need some kind of pattern on your shirt or kind of logo or something like you can't have a solid shirt. Even then I think I think the vest now has to have patches. I think this has to turn into like a patchwork vest. Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Instead of just got a modified article. Instead of the shirt. Maybe you should zip it up too. Maybe that'll help. No, it would look better. Oh no. Then he's working at the airport. He's fucking TSA man.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Leave your laptops out. He's died in traffic. Laptop tops out. Laptops out. Any electronics I've been I've been trying Are you gonna wear it on the show again?
Starting point is 01:57:00 Probably but I don't know how You shouldn't I don't think he's not going to He's not going to Well now he's gonna say that And he's like oh what exactly I'm pussy Can never be that
Starting point is 01:57:10 But I have been trying And if it If I come back It just looks like Just a Walmart worker Then you know what That's what it is It is what it is
Starting point is 01:57:20 It is what it is Where did you get this from again? The some vintage pop-up. Oh, yeah, yeah. I wasn't there. I wasn't there. All right, next picture.
Starting point is 01:57:28 I would never let you by that browser, by the way. I asked everybody about it. I was like, yo, this best is kind of cool. And everyone's like, yeah, that's tough. That's tough. But you weren't there. And so I come in and you say it. Yeah, man, I would have never let you did that.
Starting point is 01:57:41 All right. Next picture. Why were you screaming like? I was laughing. It was kind of a freaky thing to screenshot. Yeah. I don't know. What the people?
Starting point is 01:57:53 What are you saying? Yeah. What is the captioning? We were talking about when you watch the X-Men movie without the CGI. Oh, this is me doing Cyclops. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What would you caption this be? Let's spin it on you.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Yeah, it's kind of kind of freaky, isn't it? I don't know. I just saw funny pictures. Let's get to the psychology. Yeah, you really had it. You had an idea behind this. Yeah, let's get to the bottom of the barrel. Honestly, dead ass.
Starting point is 01:58:16 It was just, let me find funny pictures and show it to them and see what happens. See what happens. Let's see what happens. Here's here, caption. caption for this hmm that's PG can't come up with
Starting point is 01:58:31 that thing it's PG I'm not fit to say nothing to this Kinky souls back at Yeah Yeah you had to spell One track mind
Starting point is 01:58:41 What she keep going What's the next one That's me watching something crazy After Isaac It looks like you had no teeth You look gummy. Straight bums.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Yeah, they're old. You took your dentures out. All right. Next. Kinky, man. The boy. This is like 2016 Snapchat. Like you put a crazy filter on it.
Starting point is 01:59:14 With the dog ears. Yeah. This is one of them, my home boy thinks he cute. The home boy. My old boy wants you Shut on a holler at you I'm crazy Will you
Starting point is 01:59:29 He thought a lot to your friend Two man This is my I feel like that's the worst That you can That you can use For like showing that you
Starting point is 01:59:41 Want to like He wants you Yeah I want you I need you Damon Jones To plead guilty To providing
Starting point is 01:59:48 Bettors with Inside info About Lebron James And Anthony Davis Fuck Brandon This is Damon Jones in the in the court
Starting point is 01:59:57 He's facing me Is it really? If he does this Lock him up Yeah If he does this in court It's like y'all and I didn't really do it You know me
Starting point is 02:00:08 All right There's no world Where I ever imagine myself Being put on a graphic Next to sexy red Someone commented and said Why does it look like Moe was scared of her? I was just about to ask them
Starting point is 02:00:24 If you're next to sexy red Are your hands in your pocket? Yeah Are you straight down with hand? Yeah, one of my friends tagged me He said why he looked like that Ma'i said,
Starting point is 02:00:32 I don't know what to do all that man I don't know It's too much for me, man Can't catch a shirt So you wouldn't be dancing along You wouldn't like match the vibe Nah man His mouth pockets
Starting point is 02:00:46 I'm like ooh On stage Your hands being in pockets I was going to say 20,000 people Be real 500 people are in the crowd. Dude, I'm going
Starting point is 02:00:54 straight George so I'm being froze. Wet leg. Yellow puddle next of my leg. This is Lala Paloosa. You have an early window.
Starting point is 02:01:05 5,000 people out there. You're just going to... Again, ultimate wet leg, bro. I'm telling you. She might slip on stage because I'll wet. Now I'm the most hated man in America.
Starting point is 02:01:16 Sexy Red tour is over. Most hated man in America. Because you tripped up sexy. Maybe I'll see it, Ed. Okay. All right, next. Why is this my go-to-face? I'm just noticing that now for pictures.
Starting point is 02:01:32 You got to have a hand on that chin? No, this is one of the funniest things anyone could do. One day I got to cart myself next to Bronn, man. I got to do that. Do you feel like you look like you're in place here? Do you think you belong? Absolutely. I don't got any red on.
Starting point is 02:01:44 I don't know. I thought he does. At first glance, I didn't even recognize him on the side. I thought it was just a picture. Bro, you look like that. thieving caniving manager just manipulating everything in the background. You're stealing funds behind us? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:58 I'm the show of night. Mindless baby, shod night. They're only to go broke early because you're of their siphoning funds. Especially like you have the hat backwards here and you have the cross body bag. Y'all look like a dance group. Like you look like you can break dance here.
Starting point is 02:02:16 Can you break dance? No. What's your most efficient dance move? I can do a mean Millie Rock. Let me see. Millie Rock. You're out of your Millie Rock Prime? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:28 What, the wrist don't move like they used to? Yeah. You're a little stiff? You start hurting. My best dance move, I can hit them folks like crazy. But my worst dance move, I don't know. I don't know how to dug you, man, for the life of me. Never have, never will.
Starting point is 02:02:42 I watch tutorials one day on YouTube. Still couldn't get it. So if I put on real sisters right now, you're going to start hitting them folks? I could. I swear I could I could I've done it before on the show or anyway I think
Starting point is 02:02:54 I see you do it too on the show I think everyone should be able to hit them folks and I think about it it's the most like baseline thing ever yeah literally just
Starting point is 02:03:01 yeah you like cross your wrist yeah yeah it depends on swag you want to head it you ever do the reverse 2015 no
Starting point is 02:03:11 no okay not next level he's not copy that a o and teo era come on peak
Starting point is 02:03:18 reverse Yeah, I do think it's like a top Five dance Me with the reverse No, the hit them folks In general, just because you can do so much with it Yeah, I feel like it's very versatile Open the door to
Starting point is 02:03:32 Interpretation, Freestyle and Creativity Scalible? It's very nice. It's very scalable Very scalable, very important Very efficient All right, a couple more, a couple more Now this is straight up real He looks Dominican as hell he looked like you in the Bronx
Starting point is 02:03:52 just telling tomatoes and shit on the street Tomatoes I've seen folks like you man Puppy Told you man I don't got no cash on me today Leave me alone Oh shit
Starting point is 02:04:05 Imagine you with this These proportions is killing me Tiny ass head The arms matches skin color two Which is funny ass waist body T you already know what it is
Starting point is 02:04:26 it looks like to be like how you can imagine yourself as a kid as an action figure facts that would be so cool this is a Westbrook's body right yeah yeah that would be so cool
Starting point is 02:04:39 if we had like action figures of ourselves we can make that happen I'm sure they got to be a thing out there I've seen brands with people that make like Almost like a funcop pops for YouTubers. Oh, that's kind of cool. You got a Funkop? I just want to see what it looks like.
Starting point is 02:04:53 I got a lot. A lot of Funkal Pops? Yeah, yeah. They're all gifted. I saw one the other day of Embockers. No one did a lot of a gift in I did too. Well, my girl is, she's an actual like Funko Pop person. Like she got a real collection.
Starting point is 02:05:07 So whenever she's thinking of a gift for me, the easy layup is a Funko Pops. Okay. So you think she forces to have it on to you? Yes. Okay. Absolutely. Absolutely. Wait, she gives you the gift for her collection?
Starting point is 02:05:20 No, no. She's like making a collection for myself. She's kind of making my collection for me. Oh, okay. And are you saying that like, you're not an equal participant in this collection? If it was up to you, you wouldn't have one? Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:05:33 I would not have a fun go pop collection. It wasn't for it. I may have like one or two. The goalpost, you're changing. I did buy a little boobie just for the fuck of it. A what? What'd you buy? A looobo?
Starting point is 02:05:51 You know what I said the first time. What did you think I said? No, you just messed up. What are you? You'll see it on the road. What do you say? I don't know if it wasn't that. He said lobooby.
Starting point is 02:06:04 It was something different. Was it a slur? It wasn't a slur, right? No. I think you said it. You must have to said it fast. You just accidentally fall in the slur. You just accidentally fall as a slur.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Happens all the time. I would say, I do it all the time. Because while that's your first thought? I don't know. Y'all, you're kind of freaking out.
Starting point is 02:06:21 I was just, no. It was just funny. You didn't even know. I heard you right. It's okay. Okay, okay. Yeah, man,
Starting point is 02:06:26 I bought a Laboo for a five. Did I say it again? Cut that, cut that. All right. Next picture. Whoa. This was a,
Starting point is 02:06:37 I forgot why you did this. Because. Don't try some out. Isaac did the Jimmy Butler thing. He gave me Jimmy Butler's hairstyles and he rated it. If I remember correctly
Starting point is 02:06:47 So he went to the barber and he asked for it. I went on a tour. You should grow these back out. I mean, I'm clearly growing on my hair right now. What do you think is going on? Yeah, yeah, a month away from that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:56 Like, your hair grows really fast. Like, you can just do it whenever you want. I know. This time around. Shrinkage. Strickage. You're kicking my ass, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:03 It's crazy. Take some time. We talked about hidden talents a few weeks ago. You're hitting talent. As we can see, it's growing your hair out whenever and wherever you want. Yeah. Shape,
Starting point is 02:07:10 like a mother. Like a chia pet. You just go. I popped out Dude, I never had a chia pet in my life Always one of one There's a LeBroncia pet, you know that? Yeah
Starting point is 02:07:19 I'm over that shit All right With Penny's frying me Is Penny a carrot? No, she was a pumpkin A carrot That's a big question That's hilarious
Starting point is 02:07:35 That'd be the funniest thing to put a dog in Carrot Could you see out of those glasses? No, I did, I did take them off. So you're just been pitch black? Yeah, honestly, because like the, the thing in those glasses were so, like, thin, and then it was also colored. And at the time, like, I was just in, in the room and we had, like, all the lights, like, it was the remote setup. I was getting dizzy.
Starting point is 02:08:02 And so while we were doing TikTok time, sometimes, like, I would see what we had on screen and that I'd, like, close my eyes. It's like, I didn't think. Just close your eyes. It was a lot. That's a W costume, man. I ain't going on. You got to wear one for next Halloween. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:17 We do have to figure out. We have to start thinking we're, where are we? Six months away? We need to start planning for Halloween. My go to is Russell from Up. It's so easy. You got to get another one deep in your bag. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Yeah, we need a. Are we doing individual or are we collective one this year? All I know is Modi be sexy red and we can build around that. What the fuck? This guy just wants to see. See me in booty shorts, weirdo. You don't have a boot shorts. You wear a skirt.
Starting point is 02:08:43 What the fuck? He has no preferences. He has no preferences. He just want to see. I'll be Ice Spice. Oh, yeah. You want to wear short shorts. You want to let it hang.
Starting point is 02:08:56 I feel like this is not the first time that you said something about him, like, wanting to be Ice Spice or, like, being in the Ice Spice lane. Wait, me? Yeah. That I want to be Ice Spice? Something in that vein. I feel like you've had. had another mention of ice spice before
Starting point is 02:09:10 I don't think so am I being gassed again I feel like I'd remember that I don't know are you being gassed he recollects one thing I don't know all right last one last one yeah dude you look so tiny in that chair
Starting point is 02:09:33 this is a gigantic chair what the fuck because this is when I first moved to this apartment that we shooting now with the studio. I remember I moved in like two days before Halloween. So I went to Target and bought a random chair because my shit hadn't gotten delivered yet. So yeah, that's a random chair in this side table that actually kept
Starting point is 02:09:49 that I bought a target that day. Dude, I could sleep on that chair. You still have that chair? Oh, my shit. Fuck no. Chair sucked. Got rid of it as soon as our, our movers got here with all of our furniture.
Starting point is 02:09:56 Was it uncomfortable? I said it kind of looks comfy. It's really not. No? Just like sitting on a pillow. Didn't you have like a problem that day getting that costume? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:06 We had to delay. Oh, yeah, we had to delay. Oh, yeah, we delayed. because first I bought a T-Rex costume that was one of the ones that blows air into it so you're like a big inflatable it wasn't working
Starting point is 02:10:14 oh I put it on I actually ripped it that's what I did because it's real light and I was just like yeah and it ripped so can't inflate
Starting point is 02:10:21 a ripped costume so I had to go back to Spirit Halloween and buy a new one and I bought this gym I remember this as soon as I see this I just think of
Starting point is 02:10:30 a Tyrese Halliburton Tyreys Halliburton oh yeah that's when he was horrible to start the year oh I was so mad yeah To Tommy Costum was funny.
Starting point is 02:10:39 Dude, he was, it's still crazy that he made the finals that year. Had that run and how horrible he was to start the year. Yeah. That was like, bro, is he, what the fuck happened to him? Look, he got his power zapped by the Monstars. They were talking about the hotel beds and stuff like that. It was tragic. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Tough. Then he made the finals. Look at him. Yeah, he'll be back. All right. That's it. I see no. No.
Starting point is 02:11:03 Nope. Because then I mean that, you know, they go through the ease and stuff like that. Yeah, but the next time I'm going to get the regardless. It's fine. It's time for TikTok. I don't worry about it. It is time for TikTok time. Flexer muscles.
Starting point is 02:11:14 We're going to run through 100 packs. Welcome to TikTok time. As usual today, we are going to begin with a draft. We are once again doing a draft for all three of us are going to draft an NBA team so you can draft the best one. This time, we're doing a draft with a specific team from the wheel as well as a specific year. So we don't know what we're going to get.
Starting point is 02:11:35 The year wheel is set from anywhere from 2000 and 2006. Okay. Who knows what we'll get. We'll spin it. We'll see that version of the team. We all draw a player from that team for five rounds. Fire. Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:46 So let's hit it. First spin up today. Who are we starting with? We got... This is terrible. This is terrible. 2007 Atlanta Hawks to begin. So naturally, you can pull a basketball reference.
Starting point is 02:11:58 Jay smooth. Please be there for me. 2007 Hawks. Let's go ahead and pull these rosters up because that would be a lot of rest. 2006-7? Yes. That's always how it is. Second year is the one.
Starting point is 02:12:08 So 2006-07 Hawks. I have first. pick, Moe's second pick, Donovan, third pick. Okay. Oh man, this team sucks. Do I want Josh Smith or do I want Joe Johnson? Jay Smooth. Give me Joe Johnson.
Starting point is 02:12:21 I'll start there at small forward. There we go. All right. 25 a night, Joe Johnson. Yeah. Got to start there. Okay. Could be worse for me, but I feel very good about Josh Smith.
Starting point is 02:12:32 Jay Smooth, welcome to the team. That's not bad. He was top 21 in defensive player of the year. I don't know why the fuck they counted for so goddamn well. Top 21 is hilarious. Just say he's a good defender. Keep a pushing, bro. I don't think they do that anymore.
Starting point is 02:12:44 I don't think they... They don't waste their time like that. They realize it's fucking pointless, but... Can you press flip for me? Be soles, I can't see it. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.
Starting point is 02:12:51 There you go. So I like it. Good, versatile defender. Not really a shooter like that, but hey, I got a ball hand on the building. Okay. You have it's three blocks that year. Holy fuck. This is not fun.
Starting point is 02:13:02 This is not fun being third. Go ahead. Pick Zaza up, but Julia. Actually, flip back for me, actually. No. I don't think I do want to do that. Okay. You want infamous Marvin Williams?
Starting point is 02:13:14 Nah. I'm looking at a seventh man right now. Looking at somebody who shot 35% from three. Looking at Ty Lou. Ty Lou? He took 2.93s a game. Second most on the team. He's a shooter.
Starting point is 02:13:30 Give me Ty Lou. Oh my God. Okay. That's nasty. Yeah. Wow. You could have Marvin Williams. You don't want him?
Starting point is 02:13:36 No. What is thrilling? A little Lou. Never the big one. All right, Diamond. Team number two, you get first pick. Thank you. 2019.
Starting point is 02:13:46 Okay. Oklahoma City Thunder. That's a fun team. That's a fun team. I'm a good position. Oh, my goodness. I'm a good position. Damn, you're the best position.
Starting point is 02:13:54 I'm fucked. Okay, okay, okay. Damn, this sucks. 2019. Who are we working with? You know what? We might have to go ahead get MVP. Paul George.
Starting point is 02:14:08 Damn. Okay. I'm taking Paul George at the three in his MVP year. That's what that's not so bad. 28 a night. First team all defense. Yeah. People forget that part.
Starting point is 02:14:18 First team all NBA. Third team. I mean, third place for DPOI. Damn. That was crazy. That was a year for him. That is wild. It's wild.
Starting point is 02:14:26 Yeah. He was great, though. Yeah. So you have Josh Smith. Who are you pairing with them? Not the best fit spacing wise. But go ahead and give me Russell Westbrook. He will be fed.
Starting point is 02:14:36 I got nothing but athletes on my team right now. You better get a stretch five. Listen, they're coming. It's coming. You don't have to. Here we go. I have to. It would be much appreciated by Russell Westbrook.
Starting point is 02:14:51 Jeremy Grant was pretty good this year. I liked Jeremy Ground. Okay, see you a lot. But I'll go Stephen Adams at center. Smart. Give me the big mad advantage. Y'all better draft some brutes. I'm going to tell myself I'm getting 100 rebounds of game.
Starting point is 02:15:03 Listen, not with Jay Smooth and the rest of the air. And now that you have Stephen Adams, now I'm getting my stretch five. Come on out to the perimeter. I think he'll live. He might not. He'll die. Next team. 2006 Pacers.
Starting point is 02:15:19 That's nice. 2006 Pacers. Okay. I haven't thought about this team like ever. They had Stephen Jackson. They had Germain O'Neill. Meta World Peace still. Danny Granger was already theirs.
Starting point is 02:15:31 They got some guys. They had some guys. I can't do Germain O'Neill and Stephen Adams. That's what we're at Joe Johnson. Straight of mid-range. buckets and Steve Adams punching people. But he was good. He was an all-star that year.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Nice. I guess I got to go. Go ahead, do it. They traded him this year. I got to go meta real piece. First team all defense. I'm going to run a map. Power forward.
Starting point is 02:15:55 Wow. Okay. I kind of want to meta. You could have been a defensive trio. That would have been so, that would have been a defensive trio, man. Hey, Jermaine O'Neill and Josh Smith, you're playing volleyball. Listen, Stephen Jackson.
Starting point is 02:16:07 Don't worry about that. I got space in those. Give me Pager on my team. He shot 40% from three on five attempts. Good God, I was a game. I'm in a good spot. I'm going to get so put it on my team. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:20 Thank you so much for doing that. I really do appreciate you. I had to. Give me Jermaine O'Neill, put him at my center. Yeah. That's 20 and 10. You're the only guy who wanted him. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:31 Thank you. The board broke right for you. Thank you. But you do have Tail Lou. So you better have some good players. Yeah, you have Taito Lou running it. I have an MVP. And 25 and 12 in Germaine-O-Neill.
Starting point is 02:16:43 You got two All-Stars. I got, was Joe Johnson All-Star other year? I think it was. I got one, but it's like a one of those all-stars. You got all-MBA, Paul George. I don't got that. Spin it again, who's my next player? You got.
Starting point is 02:16:58 Where are we at? 2011 pistons. They were not good. 2011. Is this the Brandon Jennings here? This is about to be like a Gregman-Rote. Oh no, no, Greg was later Team Macs on that team
Starting point is 02:17:12 Yeah Well, they have one person average above 15 points a game Fuck Ben Wallace was there He averaged 2.9 points out of you 30 and 52 Just team stop
Starting point is 02:17:27 Those Ben Gordon years Yes Ben Gordon's there This is brutal I need a point guard though Oh no it is Greg Monroe But a rookie Lookie Greg Point guard
Starting point is 02:17:36 We'll bind him This is stinky man I need a four, Germain. Charlie Villanueva. C.V. Nah. You know what?
Starting point is 02:17:46 We're just going to, we're going to play small. We're going to play fast. Give me Tashon Prince, put him at the four. Damn. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 02:17:52 Six, nine, but, you know, kind of undersized, but he could do some things. Very versatile. Now, I do need a very, very good point guard
Starting point is 02:18:01 to round this entire team out, but we're not, we're not in a terrible position right now. Man. I have a nice one-two combo. Nice, good defense right there? Come on, man. I absolutely hate this, man.
Starting point is 02:18:16 You need a five and a two. Yeah, Gregman Rose there. You said what? Gregman Rose already there. Or you want Old Ben Wallace? I'm not taking Gregman Roe. My team is Cooks. He was sixth and Ricky in the year that year.
Starting point is 02:18:27 I'm good, man. He's sixth and Rick of the year. He was jack shits. That which you're not even first team. Dude, I saw him the other day on a random side line. I think he's a coach now, too. Yeah. I'm a cool.
Starting point is 02:18:37 That brought back. So many memories. I guess give me Rip Hamilton. Okay. At my two. Good shooter for his era. Yeah. Give me 40% from three.
Starting point is 02:18:48 Ben Gordon at my two. Bro, if you, listen, if you can get a center to hold your team down, you're kind of cooking. Yeah, your team be really good.
Starting point is 02:18:57 You got two spaces for us? Rip and Pager running everywhere. Especially if you get a space or five, my five is make or break right now. Yeah, but I'm telling you know, if there is a stretch five, I'm snatching them.
Starting point is 02:19:07 No matter what. I just saying fuck your team. Fuck, okay. I have like the first team all Donovan. Ben Gordon, Joe Johnson, run our test. No, you too. It's all Donovan's crushes. Machilas.
Starting point is 02:19:20 All right. Last team. Oh, where are we going? Okay. 2024 Washington Wizards. Alexar and your team down. Rookie Alex. No, that's the year.
Starting point is 02:19:33 No, that's the year they tanked and got Alexar. Ooh. Stinky. Now they won There were 20 and 62 this year. They have Corey Kisper. Dude, I'm looking at the team. They had like 100 players on this team
Starting point is 02:19:47 because of the roster. So much shades. Okay. 24 players on the roster. Gafford. Ryan Rollins. I either got to go Jordan, pull or Denny at my point card.
Starting point is 02:19:58 And that was before Denny was like a point four like that. Oh, man. 2024, Denny averaged 3.8 assist, 14.7 points. It's not 37%. Defended a little bit. Ryan Rollins on that team Who are you taking
Starting point is 02:20:13 Jordan pool in that year 17 points per game that was when Jordan Paul was at the peak of his foolishness 41% from the field I guess I'm running Denny's there Who are running the ball through right now though I don't have any playmaker
Starting point is 02:20:27 You're running the ball through Joe Johnson You have Joe Johnson in hell man I'm going to the ball through Joe Johnson Johnson You're living like he didn't have it's 25 He was great But man. Nobody ever accused him of being a playmaker, though.
Starting point is 02:20:43 All right. I guess I'm putting Denny out point guard. Take me everything I learned this year and I'm making him do it early. I'll make the Denny breakout happen sooner. I did not need that to happen. Because I was going to take Danny move everybody down one. Yeah. I was going to run Tyloo at point.
Starting point is 02:21:02 Yeah, you got a Jordan pool, buddy. No, I don't. Yeah, Kyle Coos, one. No, I don't. You can get a center. Markman Bagley, Trey Jameson was there Daniel Gafford was there Daniel Gafferds was there
Starting point is 02:21:15 Tristan Vukovic was there Yeah, Daniel Gaffer was a good pick Or I could slide Josh Smith down And I haven't played a five Yeah, do that But I don't know if that's the Why is this decision? And take Coos?
Starting point is 02:21:27 Because his rebounding numbers are fucking crazy. Do that. Bro, Coos was 22, 6 and 4. No, just keep it simple. Give me, yo, my team is mad athletic. Give me Daniel Gafford. Give me the pick and roll options.
Starting point is 02:21:38 Okay. Teams very talented. Thank God you have Pasha there to space the floor. Yeah. Thank God you got patient. It was looking spooky for a second. My team's going to be running up and down. High Flyers.
Starting point is 02:21:49 This team, if they played together all in their like prime-ish, they can win like 45 games. What a bar. It probably went like 50, honestly. I love my fun. You're right because Richard Hamilton and Pagia and the front. And Russ, too. Yeah, in their prime, you're right.
Starting point is 02:22:06 Athletic Dawsmith. Yeah. I love my front court. I like Paul George, Tashon Prince, Jermaine O'Neill. Tailu's holding the back court down. Let's take pool. Gallinari. I'm about to take Belau.
Starting point is 02:22:20 Before, pool? I'm about to take Bal. Belal, you're crazy. Just take pool, man. I'm not taking pool. You have, like, so much room for error with pool. Nah, it's either going to be, it's either going to be Tice Jones or Corey Kishman. Take Tyos Jones.
Starting point is 02:22:38 Taya's Jones. Ty is Jones scary sites? It might be. Come on, man. You could win this by a landslide. You still might win, but come on. I'm not taking Jordan Pool. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:22:49 Nobody even mentioned Jordan Pool. He's just reiterating. I will not take Jordan Pool. No, he said it. He said it. All right. Move Taloo to the one. Wow.
Starting point is 02:22:57 We're going to take. Cous Jones. Cous Jones. Moos. Yeah, move to the one. Pee G at two. Wow. And then we're going to put Corey Kisper at the three.
Starting point is 02:23:08 Wow. Why would you put Corey Kish for the three not the two? Not only matters, but Paul is notably much bigger. Wow. I'm just reading. It says small ball. Okay. Corey Kisper at the three.
Starting point is 02:23:19 Okay. You got spacing. Paul George, Kisper, Prince. I can do some things. But who you run the ball through, would you remain on new? Through Paul George. Point PG. Okay.
Starting point is 02:23:31 Okay. It's a good team. Was Tyloo a good shooter back then? He shot 35% that year. Yeah, but only one attempt a game. On three attempts, sir. Three attempts for that year. Wow.
Starting point is 02:23:41 I'm not going to lie. I kind of like Mo's team. Right, yeah. No, most team is nice. Yeah, but probably wins, yeah. It's probably the most, like, well-rounded team. My team is fucking awful. Straight muscle heads.
Starting point is 02:23:51 My team is ridiculous. Stephen Adams, our test and Denny. My team is stupid. You know, they'd just be eating ground beef in the before game every game. Yeah, literally. I don't have a single pastor on this team. Your team is hilarious. I have O'Killem basketball and Stephen Adams punching people.
Starting point is 02:24:07 That could work. Sure. In a regular season context, you could win a lot of games like that. Yeah, 43 games, I like it. I have run our test and Denny for Russ with Stephen Adams in the back. Could I beat your team off of trapping Russ and making him go into his worst impulses? No, because I got secondary ball handling and rip and pages that can do stuff too. And also I think my team's nice.
Starting point is 02:24:30 Josh Smith could do a little, just a little bit. Yeah, yeah, he had good handle. 82 or not? Yeah, I don't have anybody for Josh Smith. I'm going to have to run our test on Russ. Denny on Josh Smith Make it overpowered Fuck
Starting point is 02:24:40 That would be a good fight Ron on Chess I actually like my team I'd run with this on 2K It's a good team Ty Lou Corey Kisper Why did you take Corey Kisford man The Tyloo big is so funny
Starting point is 02:24:52 You got some more shooting Well so yeah We got some stinky ass teams in this All right That was very tough Next thing we are gonna do today We are gonna play NBA Would You Rather
Starting point is 02:25:04 I'm gonna show you a series of would you rather questions. You tell me which side you'd rather experience. Some of those are putting yourself in the shoes of a player. Some of them are you as a coach, GM fan, different stuff.
Starting point is 02:25:16 First off, would you rather listen on Michael Porter Jr. podcast for three hours every day for a year or watch 82 Kings games a year? I would never watch 82 Kings a year. I'm sorry, bro.
Starting point is 02:25:26 I can't do it. There's no tough of a game. Really? I am. Because you could watch like condensed games. And so you can watch the game be done with it.
Starting point is 02:25:35 30 minutes. She's eating, though. You got to watch every single minute. No. I'm watching the condensed game. Listen, I can put it on my phone, walk 30 minutes a day on the trip. I'm getting my steps since. Eating your vegetables. Exactly. Early.
Starting point is 02:25:47 I can't listen to MPJ for three hours a day. Dude, 82 games is a straight torment, though. They won like 17 games here. Three hours is longer than a King's game. But what if you fast forward the three hour podcast? You're still getting in all the content. Can we listen to it on like double speeder, whatever? No, you got to watch the full game.
Starting point is 02:26:05 No. the podcast. Oh, sure. Whatever your listening habits are. Yeah. Oh, so I can listen to the three-hour podcast and make it an hour and a half.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Yeah. Sure. Sure. That means you're taking in twice as fast Michael Porter Jr. dating knowledge. Which isn't bad, but here's the problem.
Starting point is 02:26:20 Every day for a year means that he has a podcast every single day. So he's a lot of content, so by Friday, we're in hour 15. He's saying anything. Of what MPJ thinks about
Starting point is 02:26:33 for the day, for the week. So, it's a lot. You're going to get into his deepest and darkest thoughts. Now is it the Kings next year when they get their lottery pick? This season. Also, this year is brutal, bro. Also, it's only 82 games. That's
Starting point is 02:26:45 one season. You still have an off season. So I'm gonna take the Kings. You're right. You're right. Yeah, give me the Kings for 82 games. You're right. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Next one. Plus, you get to watch whatever team they're playing their face. Are you right? True. You're just hell in a cell of Microportage. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:04 You're right. You're right. You're right. You're boxed. You're boxed. Would you rather get the top five picks in one draft or two years in a row of number one overall picks? Can you imagine getting the top five picks in the 2024 draft? Still. Even then the numbers, you could pick Klingin, Castle, modest.
Starting point is 02:27:27 Modest. Let's say you're a good GM. You can pick the right players. You don't got to pick Ries or she. Or the number one in two draft. Yeah. So that might be the Cooper flag and then AJ. If you got, you got one being flag.
Starting point is 02:27:38 But you don't know. You don't know who's going to be in that draft. Like maybe it won't be that great. Maybe it would be Paolo and Reese Shay. Yeah. I think, I think I might take the top five picks. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:49 If you can trust yourself to get five of the best players, it's a full starting five, that can accelerate you. Top five picks in one draft, including their, like, the number one pick for that year. Yeah. I would do that.
Starting point is 02:27:59 If I had a chance to get like Anthony Edwards, Scottie Barnes, in the building, or even like Mowbly, whatever way you want to, Yeah, I'm going that way 100%. I think that's way easier. And I have more changes to fuck up, obviously.
Starting point is 02:28:11 Just simple math. One of these guys has to be able to hoop. I'm taking the top five picks. Imagine I get Wembe, Amin, Asar, Brandon Miller, and Kason Wallace. That's a starting five. What? It's one of the best 35 in the league.
Starting point is 02:28:24 It's the greatest defense of all time. Yeah, you're straight. I'll trust myself. Would you rather arm wrestle shack or dance battle? Jared McCain, both of these scenarios, your life is on the line. I'm dancing. battling. Is it abu?
Starting point is 02:28:38 Abub. The above. I think I've seen the clip of you doing that for some reason. Oh, I used to do it a lot. Peek little Uzi. Ooh. My bag. Do I have a chance?
Starting point is 02:28:55 Do you think Shaq has it to this day? Over you? Hell yeah. Does you have for the rest of his life? I think he'll go to the grave, whooping your ass. in our wrestling. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:29:07 He could be 40, he could be 80 years old. He could be nut, bro. You'd be shocked how weak 90 year old are. He's shocked him. He's shocked though. 90,
Starting point is 02:29:17 I mean, 90's pretty crazy. So, yeah, 90's probably pretty nuts. At what age do you think you could be shocked? 70? 88? When he's 70,
Starting point is 02:29:26 can you beat him? Okay, so there's like variables into this. I got to be in the gym, like literally. I got to be bulking for at least a year and a half, maybe two years. Can you gym your way into beating Shaq and arm wrestle?
Starting point is 02:29:37 At 70? Well, he's not getting too far. When he's 60. Let's not get too far. 60. 60. He's what? He's 50 something right now?
Starting point is 02:29:46 I can't do it now. You can't beat him at 60? No. That's in three years. Dude. He 57? I'm assuming you're just. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:55 Yeah. No one knows. He's 54. I'm not. Six years. You have six years from this moment to train to beat Shaq in an arm wrestle. Can you do it? If that was like my life's mission,
Starting point is 02:30:07 and I was committed to that every single day, just doing straight curls, like being with the best trainers in the goddamn world to arm wrestle shack, and this is my moment in life, the defining moment of my life, I think I could. No chance.
Starting point is 02:30:20 I think I could. No matter what, his hands are so four times as big as yours, the grip strength alone is going to be hard to overcome. Listen, man. You can grab your wrist and your hand at the same time. There's grip workouts for that. There's not hand extending workouts. Now when comes to the hand,
Starting point is 02:30:30 I don't, does that like really apply? to like metal fingers they have they have surgery for literally everything if I wanted to be 6-5 tomorrow I could get the surgery to do it you're telling me they can't make my hand the size of shacks we're saying all this I also know for a fact I will not be jerrugated a dance battle that's what I'm trying to rationalize this he wrote my ass in a dance battle I'm not going to lie
Starting point is 02:31:00 listen man you have you have any one of the thunder videotaping him, hyping him up. He just gets more energy. He gets stronger and stronger. He's piecing me up. Yeah, that's wraps.
Starting point is 02:31:11 I'm dead either way, man. It's like Goku with the spirit bomb. I'll die having fun of dancing with McCain. I'm a beat shot when he's 60. Okay, I don't know where his age that came from. Next up. Would you rather see the Celtics three Pete
Starting point is 02:31:25 with a Lakers three Pete? It's really for you two. If the Celtics three Pete starting now, that means my goal gets a ring. LeBron another So I think I'd rather go that route Than the Celtics I gain nothing from the Celtics being nominated
Starting point is 02:31:37 And they're just mad annoying I don't know if they're more annoying I hate it though I think I would go Lakers It would bother you to see To see Jason Tatum in four rings Yeah I think being in the same conference And getting in
Starting point is 02:31:55 And like they're probably gonna Be us a couple times to get to the rings Seeing Celtics fan have that satisfaction for three is straight the strangle hold they have on the media yeah i think i would probably rather see a lakers three because they also have to like they they got to restore themselves as that means they're going through wendy and okayc every single year like that's that's nuts and like southex fans but they have that much power like they would clearly be fascist like they would row they run media with the iron fist you wouldn't go
Starting point is 02:32:26 anywhere without seeing like jason tateham top 10 conversations with the lakers they're just mad of obnoxious though They're annoying in their own way. Being obnoxious, being fascist, I don't know. They're, that's a hard question. The Lakers, like, we get nonstop coverage of the Lakers when they are like 17 and 65. True. Even if they're winning the title, it's the same. You're right.
Starting point is 02:32:46 You're right. They're always fucking loud. Nonstop. So I think Lakers 3P. Yeah, I go Lakers easy. Correct choice. Okay. Also, they're on the other side of the country.
Starting point is 02:32:56 They're not in the real time zone, so I don't have to do with them. They're not in the real time. I'm getting this. Like the Lakers? there, Narnia? Yeah. I always thought Central was the fake time zone. What?
Starting point is 02:33:06 Pacific time zone is the fakeest time zone out of all of them. That's not, it's not real. He's breaking time zones. Pacific, Eastern, anything else. Central is one. No. Then Eastern. Then Mountain.
Starting point is 02:33:18 Actually, no. Mountain might have a low-key. What the fuck are you talking? He's just talking. He's just carrying on conversations by himself. What is he power scaling? First of all, we were having a very real conversation. So I'm not just talking to myself
Starting point is 02:33:33 On the screen It kind of looks crazy, right? You're talking to like I'll talk to a real person I'm talking to a real person But yes, I'm gonna go central Mountain has an underrated by I would go Eastern time zone
Starting point is 02:33:52 But let me guess Australia They're in the future Oh my God Just US based Those are my Yeah Pacific is at the bottom Okay Would you rather see Adam Silver add four more tournaments to the NBA or every team wears sleeved jerseys forever?
Starting point is 02:34:08 I can't let Adam get no more ideas off. More tournaments. Tournaments. Do I want to see four more? You know, if there are more sleet, oh, forever. Forever. Like in rotation forever? Or like they got to wear them like.
Starting point is 02:34:27 Every single game. Every game forever for this. This point out for the rest of history will feature a sleeve jersey. There might be new ones. It might be better ones. Maybe they'll innovate and make them good, but sleeves will be on these motherfuckering shoulders. I think that's what we're going to have to just hope for is that is that sleeve jerseys are... Have a renaissance.
Starting point is 02:34:45 Yeah, are just like a round so long that eventually you find a spot where you can make good ones. Four more tournaments. We have a playing tournament. We have the in-season tournament. It's five tournaments in a year. Six. We have the playoffs, which is a long tournament. Seven tournaments.
Starting point is 02:35:00 That's too much. When do we have time for tournaments? Yo, he's getting these sales up, man. He is making more inventory. Holy shit. Yeah, I'm going to say sleeve jerseys forever. That's probably the right choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:12 Would you rather build a team around Cam Thomas or Jaden Ivy? Cam Thomas. Cam Thomas 100%. 100%. 100%. You sure? Yeah. I don't think, I don't know if Jayden Ivy is actually good at anything on the court.
Starting point is 02:35:28 For Camp Thomas, like, I know he'll like, get you some form of buckets. It'll be good. No. I think I'm going to go Jaden Ivy. Why? Elaborate. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:35:37 Tell me more. Go pod, man. I saw go. I think I was going to push the mic in the pod. Because I'm, I think I'm, I think I'm a build my team around Jay and I, be over Cam Thomas because I know that I'm not winning basketball games at a high, high level. Either way, I think I would know that sooner with Jaden, I.V than Camp Thomas. easier obvious past the number one pick yeah because then I can just get off of that experiment as quickly as possible and then go to the next thing okay
Starting point is 02:36:08 they'll be potting that was good right that was good that was good that shows ass next one would you rather have micro jordan's career or lebron james's career oh easily jordan people think you're people used to call you black jesus that's insane 100% you want to be a christ-like figure dude what did he do to ever deserve that term. The glaze that he does that people He's done to 69. To compare him to Jesus? What?
Starting point is 02:36:38 Come on hell. It's a basketball. Fair, fair. So I raised the question. How many chips do you need to be rightfully compared to Jesus? Where's the bar? But they were calling him
Starting point is 02:36:47 Black Jesus before he got the ring. How many times you've done for the free throw line to be compared to Jesus? Twice? Yeah. Twice. That's the bar? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:55 Like you're in history forever. So exactly the Jesus? Come on now. Lookie? Yeah, exactly. See? He too light. He's too light.
Starting point is 02:37:07 That's the point you think exception with it? Too light. Yes, because Jesus was black. I would rather have Michael Jordan's career. Yeah, easy. You don't have the media like picking part every single thing that you do. The 90s are like the single best time in human history to be a superstar. Like that before the internet comes, but you're still in modern world and you had the fame and fortune.
Starting point is 02:37:28 There's no better time to be the most famous. fan of America. Do you know how crazy it would be if like a 32, 33 old Ron James came out to have a gambling problem? Like before this even new era like yo, it would be crazy. If in 2016, LeBron had to do an interview before like game two of the finals and he was like, I don't have a gambling problem. I just like to have fun. He would never survive. No. But also with Mike's, you get the best combination of both like the accomplishments are very tangible obviously. And so you have six rings. You have all that stuff that's undeniable. And you still get the high. You get the hypothetical boost where some people are like if he didn't retire he's winning eight rings like you get the
Starting point is 02:38:04 best of both worlds in that sense so i'm taking jordan's career yeah fair enough would you rather have clay thompson or james hardin's career what's the difference in money that's the main thing harding got way no because i i need to know if i'm going to go down as one of the greatest playoff chokers of all time is that worth a hundred million is that worth 200 million they're both bred it beyond comprehension they both got paid so you You will never worry about money for the rest of your life. Yeah. Would you rather be a superstar that people remember is one of the most dominant of their time?
Starting point is 02:38:35 Or have a lot of team success. I think I might rather be James Hardin because there's certain what is that you can play in his career. He had moments back in 2018. I think Hardin has way more money too because the Adidas deal to $411 million. Yeah, I'm being hardened easily. And then also too, like you sat down and created like your own like play style, not necessarily your own easy job comparisons for other people like Genobey and all that. But needless to say, like you help create a. blueprint and you also force the NBA
Starting point is 02:39:01 to change the rules and you are easily like whenever people have unguaritable conversations, you are at the pinnacle of those conversations all every single time. So I'm taking Horton. Y'all tripping. I'm going, I'm going Clay. I'm going Clay. Clay's rich as fuck. We'll never worry. We'll have no judgment on him. He's washed and nobody cares. He's chilling. And he got
Starting point is 02:39:21 made. Yeah, but like, what did you say? And he got made. It's a part of the Clayton. I won't further the conversation because there's a follow-up question there that makes a conversation different but okay okay I don't know where you go
Starting point is 02:39:38 well people who's who's who's making people with in this conversation I think Hardin's legacy we got a valuable size oh my god would you rather fight four lamello balls or two wembys two wembies
Starting point is 02:39:51 lamellaball crazy is hell he's gonna come out with a Molotov or something like that bro yeah he's he's ridiculous four moletons yeah he's so unpredictable, bro. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:40:01 He might come out with like a batting some nails or some shit like that. He's Neegan. Yeah, I can't trust him. Four shadow clones of Lamello's scaring. That's hell. Two Wembees? That's more wingspan than four
Starting point is 02:40:13 Lemellos. No, Leamele's just going to be tripping me a whole time. I'm going for the knees at Wemby. Yeah. You can go for one knee. The other one's in a wrap. There's two of them.
Starting point is 02:40:22 I think Wemby is a little bit more ethical too. Stop! You're getting mushed. two wembees is tough i think wemby's more ethical though he doesn't have a fair fight fuck no he's not he might spare me too he won't spare you there's a chance
Starting point is 02:40:41 he's not gonna spare you he won't he's gonna kill you with his hands and he's gonna know how to kill you with his hands lamello's just gonna fucking fight like a girl he took his hands around when he's gonna know how to tactically murder you but it's for it's like for wembo it's like
Starting point is 02:40:55 or for lemelo it's a slow death and he's like slapping me with his hands you know that's so many hands all at once videos those Indian barbers that do head massages and they like slap the shit out of the people's heads on TikTok yes I have
Starting point is 02:41:08 you see that you think of the hair there that's been able to you I haven't tapped into that level of barber it's like Indian head massages they're one dollar on the streets of India and they go they smack the shit out of your head
Starting point is 02:41:21 no man don't put me in a room that sounds crazy on that that's what you want essentially You're saying you want that badly. Two Wembies. Anyways. I'm beating two Wembies. You're winning?
Starting point is 02:41:37 Yes. No. I trust me in hand-to-hand combat. Against two Wembies. You're going to tear you in half. I bet my life savings on your death. It shocks me every time we do something like this, how little y'all think of not only me, but y'all selves.
Starting point is 02:41:53 Like, have some more self-confidence. I think you should actively think less of yourself, actually, when it comes to fighting Wembe. I'm just real sometimes, man. I think you have too much courage. And if you were in a jungle, you would die by lion bite instantly. By a lion bite? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:06 Oh, die. Yeah. I think you would, do you think you could take them and you'd just be dead immediately? Lion can't fight me. Can't fight me first. You can't. Next up, would you rather have the work ethic of Jimmy Butler or the intellect of Chris Paul? Probably the work ethic of Jimmy Butler.
Starting point is 02:42:25 Because the intellect of Chris Paul, I do feel like once you get to a certain level of intelligence, then you start looking at other people like, oh, that person's dumb, that person's dumb. And then you start thinking less of them, then you start disrespecting them. Now people don't like you because they get you're arrogant. Just make me work hard and I'll be okay. Yeah. So you want your choosing the path towards a better life. Yeah. Jim Butler is more like than Chris Paul. I think you can build off a legacy, off of work ethic too. People tell stories about you all the time when it comes to intellect. Like, it's very quick. Yeah, exactly. It's like, good.
Starting point is 02:43:00 Quick slope of people being like, yeah, like smart. And also he was annoying too. Nobody's making biblical stories about how smart this guy was. Exactly. No one cares. No one cares. Nice math skills nerd. Time tables, man.
Starting point is 02:43:15 Legend. Next thing we are going to do, let's talk about the most hated players in the NBA. I'm going to show you a series of people across the NBA. Maybe some coaches, maybe some players. maybe some players of a few different roles that are deemed by the masses to be unlikable. In today's league, they're the most hated. Really lasts like five years.
Starting point is 02:43:37 We're going to put them in a tier list. Based on why they're hated and what we think about this whole talking point around them. The tiers are they hate greatness. It's time to get over it. Hashtag misunderstood. I think he likes it.
Starting point is 02:43:51 You did this to yourself, buddy. I just don't like that guy. And he deserves more hate. Okay, deserves more hate. Ooh, these are personal. Let's start with Ramon Green Either you did this to yourself Or I think he likes it
Starting point is 02:44:06 I do think he likes it On a certain level He needs it He kind of needs it to operate Is that different Him needing it versus him liking it Oh no he loves it now Because he needs to be hated to motivate himself
Starting point is 02:44:20 It's either as that or he did this yourself Because nobody would ever say he's misunderstood No At all No Like he's perfectly understood I think I think we have to go, you did this to yourself,
Starting point is 02:44:31 because there have been times when he's like fought back against it and like he had that clip, he's like, I'm not an angry black man. And it's like, yo man, like, you were kicking people in the nuts for a minute. Sound kind of angry.
Starting point is 02:44:46 A little goofy. I'm sorry. A little goofy. I'm just noticing patterns. Okay, you do this to yourself. The reputation is earned at a certain point. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:56 Some people might feel that way. Michael Porter Jr. I'm some people. And PJ are, man. I think he thinks that he's misunderstood. He definitely thinks he's misunderstood. But he is not. Hold on my promise,
Starting point is 02:45:08 you're easy to understand. We see you, we hear you, we comprehend it, we say shut the fuck up. He'd just be talking sometimes a lot. So I think he might just be, I just don't like that guy. Yeah, I don't think he likes it.
Starting point is 02:45:19 I don't think he likes me hated. He did do it to himself. So he did it. You know what? He did it to himself. He's the one that keeps talking. No one tells him to do that. I just don't like this guy
Starting point is 02:45:28 Then checks tell him to do it Somebody's paying him Somebody's on the microphone of him Yeah But I think he invites himself To the podcast He goes that far Does I got something to say
Starting point is 02:45:36 He reaches out of these people Can I hop on the pot? Yo bro I think he didn't do himself as well Because I feel like I just don't like this guy implies that Maybe it's not your fault
Starting point is 02:45:45 I just cannot like you He just has a problem You're right He just keeps talking He has to speak his mind He has a contract to fulfill LeBron James One of the most hated players
Starting point is 02:45:59 Maybe in sports history I think it's time to get over it It's time to get over it They also hate greatness They still hate them to the day To be placing these wild ass expectations on him They hate greatness though It's got to be that
Starting point is 02:46:09 He's peak that yeah He's the most hated guy of all time Just because he's the best Peak comes to the territory Yeah He's the face of it Chris Paul Hmm
Starting point is 02:46:19 I think Chris Paul might just be I just don't like that guy guy. Because I think he's just a smart ass. Yeah, because I think
Starting point is 02:46:27 everybody always starts like, Chris Paul is one of the best players in NBA history. And he's so smart and he's a great leader. He says all these good things,
Starting point is 02:46:34 but they're like, but I don't like him. Yeah. He's kind of annoying. So I think he is just, I just don't like that guy. Because I don't think that he likes it.
Starting point is 02:46:45 Yeah, does he like it? He doesn't seem quite as hate masochism as some people do. He said, no to just do. That's just him. He can't help it.
Starting point is 02:46:52 That's the hard part. And I don't think he enjoys it. I don't think he hears the critiques and says, I'm going to keep doing me. He's just being true to himself and himself. Kind of a dickhead. Yeah. I just don't like that guy. It's a fair place of him.
Starting point is 02:47:06 Kevin Durant. He deserves more. No, you did this. You did this to yourself. He also does this to himself 100% always. People got over the KD files up a little bit fast. Do you think he deserves more hate? Yes, I think so.
Starting point is 02:47:21 You think the media wasn't harsh enough on him? We glazed over way too. Fast. He lays over also, too. Like, there was a woman in the season where I remember when the, when the Files first came out, it was during All-Star weekend. And he was on his phone during the fucking pregame warmers like these. Check it all the madness happening, right?
Starting point is 02:47:34 Yeah. He deserves more. Yeah. Jabari Smith seemingly forgave him, so everybody else was like, I guess I got to forgive him, too. Why do I have to do that? Why can I still say you deserve more? That's ridiculous. So he deserves more?
Starting point is 02:47:46 Yeah. I also feel like it wasn't covered enough by ESPN and all these other big-ass media outlets as well. Yeah, they were scared. They didn't know what to say about it. Yeah. Maybe they were like. They were scared about it being verifiable or whatever, but us, like, we all talked about how it should be.
Starting point is 02:48:00 So what did he fall? Yeah. He deserves more, man. Yeah, we're a capital J journalist. Exactly. Come on, man. Come on now. He deserves more.
Starting point is 02:48:08 Fuck it. He deserves more. But he's peeked that he did them to itself because no one asks for this shit. I do. Carl Anthony Towns. Misunderstood. Yeah. It got to be.
Starting point is 02:48:17 Because people are handling for personality reasons. Yeah. The personality stuff is, like, gross and misunderstood. Yeah. No. for hate on pick and roll defense fucking go for it but the pick and roll defense
Starting point is 02:48:26 you do that to yourself you deserve more yeah everything else misunderstood yeah the shit people say about his personality and the coded language they use around him
Starting point is 02:48:34 someone said he's the first straight man to ever be a victim of homophobia it's so true it's so true they're ridiculously mean to him that is insane they're ridiculous about him
Starting point is 02:48:45 Ben Simmons oh that's so tough I just don't like that guy man is he misunderstood I still don't like that guy. He might be misunderstood because like everything that anyone's ever, anything that any professional has ever said about him, like dating back to when he was in LSU,
Starting point is 02:49:02 talked about how like, he's just like not that passionate about basketball. They told the fucking truth about him. You know, he never cared about elevating his game or adding any type of shot at all. He didn't want to. Even that,
Starting point is 02:49:12 I think I feel like me like, he was a good player and then he got hurt and he stopped being good. And now we're like, he never wanted it. His back fell apart. And like that has to be misunderstood. Yeah, I think it's. We treat him like he was just healthy and decided to be a bum.
Starting point is 02:49:24 Like he didn't want it bad enough. Yeah. His back stopped working. Yeah. He would have been the league for a long time. Like maybe he would have been the top five player you wanted to be. He would still be kicking it. His back gave out when he didn't want to dunk on trio?
Starting point is 02:49:36 Pretty soon after. Pretty soon after. But in that moment, it gave out. Listen, man, that was a good shot. That was a good pass that he made to, I think it was Matisse Stivel. Batisse just wasn't ready for it. My brother. Don't do that. He's misunderstood.
Starting point is 02:49:49 I think he's misunderstood. He's definition misunderstood. No, he is not. You can criticize him. What are you think he is? He is not. The things you're saying, I don't like that guy. I'm telling you, me, person, I just don't like that guy.
Starting point is 02:50:01 I'm glad that you don't like him, I suppose. Speaking of, Miles Bridges. He deserves more. Yeah, 100%. He deserves way more. Why is he in this league still? Hey, we kind of have to move KD out of there. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 02:50:14 We can't. You're right. You're right. You're right. Let's add a new tier below that. Just bridges. Road below. Prison.
Starting point is 02:50:22 Prison jail Bridges There we go Yeah we can't have KV next Yeah we can't do that to him All right Go ahead and zoom out for me
Starting point is 02:50:29 Where do you go bare Misunderstood Peak misunderstood It's time to get over it Yeah probably time to get over it Because I think people Will understand He's great
Starting point is 02:50:39 And they still choose To hate him anyways So it's like It's not misunderstood They're just hanging And they know what they're doing Yeah Plus like the
Starting point is 02:50:45 Terence Bass I was five years ago At this point Yeah it's time to get over It's right Now, we're trying back. Now, if he has another series like that, then listen, we're right back there. It was kind of deserved though at the moment in time, too.
Starting point is 02:51:00 I remember, like, the whole COVID stuff. I remember he was, like, touching all the microphones and all that too right before the night happened in the NBA where they just canceled games. So he's kind of a dickhead as a person. I'm not going to lie. He's kind of a dickhead, but on the court, it's time to get over it. So if that means he's misunderstood because we should hate him as a person but we choose to hit him as a basketball player,
Starting point is 02:51:18 I can understand misunderstood. It's like miscalculated. that there's some avenues that hate on Rudy Gaubert that people don't really talk about it's just not the basketball court gonna talk about him I'm missing something
Starting point is 02:51:27 he's kind of he's kind of a dickhead yeah yeah some IG stories here and there that aside I remember like he was crying that he didn't make the all-star team and then apparently it was like taken out of context
Starting point is 02:51:38 and he was crying yeah that he did when he fell back on the media wall uh that was kind of funny though who wasn't about all my guess that's all of a guy that's saying he's missing like a check
Starting point is 02:51:49 That's the only time that I remember him crying. That's it. There was another moment? No, it's that one. Oh, okay. It was about the All-Star game. Yeah, it was that moment. It was kind of funny.
Starting point is 02:52:05 It was. It was that moment. But he was talking about his like, mom and also the shit, too. So it was like, I think he's misunderstood. But we could put him there. When I saw it, I thought he was just crying about that. But he was more context to it. He was like this.
Starting point is 02:52:20 And the. The crime was okay to me. It's the falling back into the video. He's like, oh, no. That was just objectively funny. He was doing a lot. Jason Tatum. I feel like it has to be for the masses.
Starting point is 02:52:39 I just don't like that guy. He does nothing wrong and people just don't fuck with him. All he is, he's a champion. He's a good father. He's a good hooper. He belongs in a lot of categories in your actually. Because you can make an argument It's time to get over it
Starting point is 02:52:52 It also make an argument that He did this to himself Yeah with the COVID thing for sure I think people did But none of that's like wrong None of that's like immoral or unlikable They just don't like him Like it's time to get over it
Starting point is 02:53:06 Get over what He didn't do anything He deserves it for what They just don't fucking like him I think that's fair There's really no reason why At this point Yeah
Starting point is 02:53:17 A lot of people just don't like him That's true Shay, Gildas Alexander Also, it's funny right now Because nobody likes it We'll get there Shay, Gildas Alexander Oh, they hate greatness
Starting point is 02:53:28 100%. They hate greenness For sure 100%. And they'll be, it's not about the Scorries, the way he scores You're gonna find any reason
Starting point is 02:53:36 to hate him, I don't care him over it flopping like say Get over it FTA Get over it FTA man It's so funny
Starting point is 02:53:46 that like the masses hate him And like Were the Glazers for just like enjoying the one of the best places in the world. And we're always going to be that. So the real answer is I just don't like that guy. I was in the basketball court the other day randomly.
Starting point is 02:53:59 And this dude, I was playing 21 or whatever. And I was like, I like called a foul. And it was like, oh, no, I ain't a file. You flopping like, shit, man. What's going on? I'm like, oh, shit. And it kind of like set me back in reality. I'm like, wow, people really do dislike shit.
Starting point is 02:54:12 It's so crazy. I only see it on Twitter. But seeing in real life, it's like a different experience. Like, wow. Like, you actually hit me, man. You called us 100% I am Nah, you're flopping like shit
Starting point is 02:54:24 You say the hate on greatness You can't stop me They can't stop me, Shee Speaking of the Thunder Lou Dorts Oh, he deserves it He likes it He might deserve more
Starting point is 02:54:37 Maybe he does deserve more I don't know People really hate him I don't know if you can get more hate Than Lou Dort People really do think he's a football player He deserves it He do be out here
Starting point is 02:54:46 Yeah Playing like football players You do this to yourself buddy probably you keep tackling people yeah yeah yeah he deserves it man you keep tripping people Dylan Brooks he likes it I think he likes it he loves he's a he's a lunatic you like it yeah he just be in the room by himself just building the narratives by himself for no reason do it again just shout voices voices in his head just going dumb one of the voices in the head saying that LeBron can't fuck with you Katie's a bitch no they're all trying to hold
Starting point is 02:55:19 back. Memphis, Memphis are all some holes. They shouldn't even be existing. He said he's Dylan Brooks is schizophrenic. Yeah. Just staring down mascots every time. Like, he's crazy, right. They're in the trees. Don't watch you. That's what he's genuinely thinking whenever he's staring down mascots every game. This is a mascot. LeBron's in there. LeBron's in there. Attack. DeAndre Aden.
Starting point is 02:55:54 You deserve more. Does he? No. Not at all. Does he? For me personally, I think it's time to get over it. Because it's like he is who he is. Yeah, time to accept he's just a role player.
Starting point is 02:56:12 He's never going to be number one pick level guy. Yeah. But also you do this to yourself, buddy. Also, you are reaping what you sowed. He did it to yourself. What if he's misunderstood? He has like multiple persons. Yeah, I mean, again, like he told us what he was about.
Starting point is 02:56:27 He does have multiple personalities. Oh, he is, he is misunderstood. We don't understand the full depths of Dianne. And maybe we never could. Maybe that's on us. Never in his entire life, life has he told us that he wants to compete for a championship and legitimately like win win or have any like type of big personal achieving goals in the league at all.
Starting point is 02:56:48 He said the first thing he said in his rookie interview was that he wants to get to that second contract. He wants to get paid. He wants to mess of bad. He's out here for survival. I got to love that that's held against him forever when it's really not that crazy to be like I'm trying to take it one day at a time trying to get that second contract and the next one and say like I'm focused on the now. I'm not looking too long term. Like if he phrased that slightly different, nobody would care. I mean, that makes it bad.
Starting point is 02:57:12 He didn't say I want a bag. Like he didn't imply it was only the money. No, but like the way he said. You're the number one pick. It's like, bro, you're getting the same. Exactly. That should be like acknowledge already. No good.
Starting point is 02:57:23 No good. You can't name too many any rookies who said the same thing at all. You don't want to set the ball high? That's what I'm saying. He's not, he's just saying like, I'm not trying to be a legend. I'm focusing on today and doing my job today, getting the next contract. Like he's trying to say something like salt of the earth shit. Like trying to put one foot in front of the other.
Starting point is 02:57:39 Focus on tomorrow. And go want to know every week. Nobody wants to hear that. I know. That's what I'm saying. Nobody wants to hear it. But like, that's what he meant. He didn't mean I want to get rich.
Starting point is 02:57:48 Maybe, maybe. I don't know. But I just love that we give him like the most harsh perception of that forever. When it's followed up by. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. And he's playing like, he is that. When you got paid and stopped trying as hard. You're going to get what you get.
Starting point is 02:58:04 So, yeah, you did it to yourself. Okay, you did it to yourself, buddy. A lot of guys did to themselves today. Joel and Bede. For other people, I would say it's time to get over it. For me personally, I'm going to say you did it to yourself. You'll never get over it. it. No.
Starting point is 02:58:20 What did he do to himself, though? He didn't injure himself. The hell? I lost a majority of my sympathy for Joel and Bede in the playoff series in 24. Because mind you, he was coming into that series already kind of hurt. And he had pulled Mitch Robinson down by his ankles. He cheap-shotted Isaiah Hartenstein in the nuts. He had cheap-shotted, Cheap-shotted Jenner Brunson multiple times without here being dirty. And I was like, you know what, for you specifically now, now I'm off that. Especially when you're grabbing people by the legs, that is kind of wild. So for me, now you did it to yourself.
Starting point is 02:58:56 For everybody else, yeah, you guys have to get over it. Yeah, it's time to get over it. Trey Young. This is really for New Yorkers. For New York Knicks fans. Trey Young. And really the league hates Trey Young. They gave up on him and say it's time to dump away for nothing.
Starting point is 02:59:08 You can't win with that guy. Man. It's never going to. Knicks are never going to get over it. I was looking in Knicks Reddit the other day. And it's still like, yo, we hate three others. Yeah. At this, at this point, it's, it's just a battle cry.
Starting point is 02:59:22 In some ways, that means they hate greatness. Because it's just mad that he graded it all over their face that year. He did that against Alfred Payton. Nevertheless. He still did it. And guess what? He was never picked above those guys, too. There's a reason.
Starting point is 02:59:35 They said, yeah, the Knicks got this. There's a reason. Yeah. It sounds like they hate greatness. They don't hate that. They tasted greatness that year and they've hated it since. Does he not like it? Like, he embraces the vote?
Starting point is 02:59:46 Yeah, he does. He does. Okay, I think he likes it. You're right. Yeah. You're right. Palo Bankero. You did that too.
Starting point is 02:59:53 Honestly, you might deserve more. I don't know if he deserves more than what's happening right now. No, he's getting his fucking fair share hate right now. Yeah, that's a lot. That's kind of too much to take on. He's got a lot. I mean, you know what the next level is. What is it?
Starting point is 03:00:06 Getting traded. You might deserve more. He did it to himself, man. Yep. He did it to himself. Zion Williamson. Hard one here. Dude, he played like 50, 60 games in one.
Starting point is 03:00:18 definitely did it to yourself he did he literally did is it time to get over it in so far that it's time to like stop caring who's ever going to be a superstar i'm not being said that i think we already got over it officially because he those is the healthiest he's been in a long time and no one cares so it's time to get over it it's already over i think it's been over all right time to get over it time to stop worrying about his time of lips cam thomas uh i just don't like that guy you don't like him yeah that's what i think the perception was would be is that I just don't think he's like that he's not misunderstood at all it's probably time to get over he's not gonna be in the last it's not to give a pass he's he's he's
Starting point is 03:00:59 not an NBA player by their standard you'll probably get another chance though probably get one more contract think I think so may just one know people get 10 days all the time do getting cut way from the like the worst teams in the league the nets and the bucks and getting another opportunity I don't think so I'm I'm not sure yeah it's over under is point five more contracts he I would bet they over at least once. I'm not including 10 days. I'm saying like for a year. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:01:24 Like, because a lot of people, like you said, get 10 days. Yeah. He might get an opportunity, but I think for a team to go into a year and say, yes, we are going to sign Cam Thomas. He's going to start and finish the year with us. I don't think that happens anymore. He's pretty young.
Starting point is 03:01:40 There's a long career still. There's a lot of opportunities. He got cut from the buck. And the nets, bro. That's nasty work. I know. I know. I'm not exactly buying stock.
Starting point is 03:01:48 here. I think there's so many other players I'd rather have in the world in Camptons on my team. Sounds like you just don't like that guy. Bring me back Mike. I think he's time he lost the beef with Zach Lowe. I'm not over that then. That's hilarious. Oops. Just I don't like the guy. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Patrick Beverly. Oh, you did that to yourself. He likes it too. You probably deserve more. I think he likes it for sure. He likes he's weird, right. Yeah. He's crazy. He just be on that podcast by himself and I was just saying shit. No one asks him for his opinion. He's just talking.
Starting point is 03:02:25 He's just giving him. Yeah. He's just like clip farming. Not one person asked when's the next episode coming out. He's just doing it. He just doing it. He deserves more because if people got over that, we forgot about that case pretty fast.
Starting point is 03:02:39 Or is it, I think he likes it. I think he likes it. He probably doesn't like it. He definitely likes it. Okay. I think he likes it. He needs it. Doc Rivers.
Starting point is 03:02:47 He deserves more. And it's kind of crazy. They made that man a Hall of Famer. That's outrageous. It's ridiculous. One title and a bunch of nothing. You got a Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:57 That's what. Respect gets you around the league. Chat up being plugged in. He'd be an amazing, just politician. Just being able to just talk to anybody, lobby a way into anything that you want, not really have any production, any results. But just get to keep your job. He'd be fantastic.
Starting point is 03:03:21 Yeah. All right, next thing we were going to do. Is Doc Rivers going to be president? Good Lord. Doc River, Stephen A. Smith race. Oh, my God. What a ticket. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 03:03:31 Anything's possible. No, they're on the same ticket. Doc is the VP to Stephen A. Smith. Ugh. Scary sights. Let's move on. What's the next thing we're going to do, man? The 2025, 2025, 26, regular season has wrapped up.
Starting point is 03:03:48 So, with that being the case, we are going to react to the funniest moments of this season. Be Souls has put together a list. We simply have to sit here and giggle. Yes. Yes. Go giggle. Miles Turner, that ass kept trolling Pacer fans to have the worst season of his career.
Starting point is 03:04:06 No, that is hilarious. Yeah, it's tough. Dude, his season has been so bad. Let me pull up his numbers. That video specifically he's done. It's incredible. But close. That's quite the nerdy, like, taunts.
Starting point is 03:04:19 I mean, I was lame as hell He went on to have the worst efficiency Of his fucking career After this It's like at the end of the movie When the music started playing Miles Turner He had the second
Starting point is 03:04:37 Lois points in his career this year He just ass all around This is the guy who we gave him for day man Unfortunately I've never seen a player lose a agenda war so decisively like this. You keep to stay
Starting point is 03:04:54 to wait for Hallie to come back. Bro, we waited so long for him to get traded for this to be what happens for me. I spent three years begging for him to be a Laker to complain to Santhney Davis
Starting point is 03:05:02 give us a stretch five. Well, guess what? We're close. Decisive loss for Miles Turner. All right. Next. When Curry pretended to go
Starting point is 03:05:13 to the locker room to see if Sexton would still follow him. He was face-guarded him? He literally went, like, off the court and Colin Sexton still followed him. Isn't that like some RDC meme or something like that? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:05:27 Folks getting followed from the parking lot. Yeah, man. Pretty good. He instills that type of fear. Did Colin Sexton continue to follow him? Yes, yes. He actually did. Like, he went like, I can't really show it, but like beyond that red circle and he was still there.
Starting point is 03:05:41 That's 10 out of 10, man. That's how locked in you have to be to play Curry. That's insane. My go. All right, next up. When Desmond Bain threw the ball off O.G. For no reason. Now, hold on, y'all.
Starting point is 03:05:55 Yeah, this is crazy. This dude did this twice. He's the D1 of Dubeg University. He stopped here when it comes to this. Yeah, those legit no reason for this. He threw it so hard, too. Like, I'll vividly remember the Desmond Bain gate of figuring out, yo, does he have anger issues?
Starting point is 03:06:12 Yeah. Do we got to get this guy some help? Look how much he cocked back in this picture. He's five feet away from O.D. He's like, And Curshaw. You could have just turned around and pass it to a teammate and kept to push it to. No, 100%.
Starting point is 03:06:25 This was a conscious decision. Yeah. It's like the live action Dragon Ball Z movie when they have the poster of Goku, be like, oh, yeah. That's what he looks like. What is it? I still never got an answer. What is Desmond Payne's problem? No one knows.
Starting point is 03:06:41 He hates everyone. Though, that Memphis scene was crazy. I'd be mad to, though. Him and Dylan was on the magic. Facts. I got some We got some shit to address in the locker room He's like I can't put Paolo
Starting point is 03:06:51 I'm gonna take it on OGX Somebody's gotta take this Fucking pressure This is where The NBA would be one of the funniest moments At the season This gave us great giggles To start the year
Starting point is 03:07:02 This is his brand now He kind of owns this Yeah that's not even the first time He did that Yeah He has a record He got a montage He does
Starting point is 03:07:11 All right next The NBA Oh this is when The Jalen brown hair line stuff. No, what was the funniest mishap was when I think they're going against the Wizards and it happened to, I think, Kishan George. And then all his young-ass team which were like, yo!
Starting point is 03:07:27 And you could kind of see like the new Arabian fully tapped in on the internet. Imagine being a grown-ass man, balding. And you got a group of teenagers laughing and giggling pointing at a shirt showing the stain of your baldness. You're going through some real-life shit, man. They're just laughing at you. Damn. Y'all ever had that damn I'm really unk moment yet?
Starting point is 03:07:48 Yes. What is it? You're wearing a Walmart jersey? Yo, he just trying to get that off. You know what the? I'm serious. You know, that was insane. Walmart.
Starting point is 03:08:03 You just talking about it. You could think of guys? That wasn't only at all. I was just, I'm up, man. I thought it'd be better to put it on the uckness and not on the, like, whatever. Not just a bad choice. No, I was coming back from the, from the gym.
Starting point is 03:08:21 And I was on, I was on the bus. And one of the, one of the stops was at, like, some high school. And so it was at like 3.30. All the kids got on. And I was in the back and I was like, oh, this is different. It was just like 20 high schoolers coming on. I was like, I have to get off this video right now. So that was it.
Starting point is 03:08:40 Jaylon's hairline scandal 100% when they're funny his moments of the season. The fact that he went on. stream and address this? Yeah. This was like a whole saga. Mm-hmm. And addressing it up. Him admitting it too?
Starting point is 03:08:50 He did. He had no choice but to admit it. It was hilarious because he's not the first player in NBA history. He was at like just crazy hairline stuff. No one really thought like, no one put allegations on him at all. We've seen Carlos Boozer with like, literally look like a bull and bulb years ago. And like- Why couldn't you get the Carlos Boozer stuff?
Starting point is 03:09:06 You're one of the, you are one of the highest-paid players in the league. Why do you have cheap hairsprings? It's his circle, man. And like, why did you rather? on people three times and not making an adjustment after the first or second time. Yeah, you're right. Not making adjustment is crazy. Just fall into the same patterns.
Starting point is 03:09:22 Like, bro, adapt. What are you doing? He wasn't on Twitter for like three days. Get with the meta. It's straight arrogance. That's crazy. Yeah, man. That was a bad look.
Starting point is 03:09:32 Mad embarrassing. Next. James Harden hitting a stepback three and you look up to see this under the same. What is he holding? Water. Water. Ah.
Starting point is 03:09:43 Because it's a splash. Have you actually been to a game at Intuit Dome? No. It's insane. Like that, they have a whole last like dome screen. And whenever someone makes a bucket, they play like a file, essentially, a video file like this is insane. It's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:10:00 He looks nuts. Yeah. I've never been. But this is, James Hardin, just because of like his, because his beard is so big and it's so iconic, he can do whatever movement. And it's going to look kind of funny. Yeah, he looks like Quincy AC here. This looks like a box of series. Honestly, yeah, this is like on some weeds
Starting point is 03:10:18 Yeah, I think it's on the ball. Rhesus bus But I would not buy that because, bro, why you need? Yeah, that was fucking. That was cute. That was cute, y'all. All right. You want a pancake now?
Starting point is 03:10:35 Big cat's home, big hat's home. Big cat's home, big hat's home. Can you play the audio? Do you have it already? Yes, sir. No, no, I don't. Get there, you're there. It's a broadcast.
Starting point is 03:10:43 I was, eh. Big cat's home. Has this been in your brain? Has it been? Yes, sir, yes, sir. I say this all the time. Yes. He came into the fire the other day, like, what, two weeks ago.
Starting point is 03:10:54 He was so much so saying, Begham, be home. Be cat's home. Big cat's home. Yes, sir. I see it there. Yet there. Yeah, sir.
Starting point is 03:11:01 What's funny? He doesn't even talk of that normally. Where'd that come from? I have no idea. What was he pulling out? What does this move that he's trying out? I don't know. Just whimsical.
Starting point is 03:11:09 Being himself, bro. Whimsy cat. Yeah. He's just in L.A. He was feeling it. Yes, sir, yes, sir. You know, sometimes you just got to feel things. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:17 Sometimes you've got to let it flow. Well, not let it fly. All right, next. Not tweeting until B-Podd scores 30. Tweeted on November 25th, 2024. Surely he scored 30 pretty soon after this, right? Nope. He finally scored 30 on April 10th, 2026.
Starting point is 03:11:37 This post got so much emotion. Yes. It had like over like 100 million, like 200,000. and like it was crazy for a B-Pod stand account. Yeah. I know what I respect. I think he bought Twitter Blue before tweeting. So he got paid for these 100 million impressions.
Starting point is 03:11:54 So Lutea Curry's not a fraud. Even Brandon Pajemski mentioned this in a post-game press conference. Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe. That's a leak. That's history right there. This did so much damage to like, not to say Pod has a legacy in NBA history or whatever.
Starting point is 03:12:09 But when it comes to like his PR and shit, it's so much damage. because everybody started noticing, oh my God. Yeah. He can't score 30. That's if that mattered. He's the first player in NBA history to score every single number of 1 through 30 in one season.
Starting point is 03:12:22 My bad. Zero through 30 in one season. Really? He hit every single digit this year, which means he had 10 games in single digits this season. God damn. Kind of impressive.
Starting point is 03:12:31 One eighth of the season in single digits. How likely is that? Is that a list you want to be on? Because that means you had a zero point game. No, unless you don't want to be on. Yeah. But he made history. Listen, two-year streak,
Starting point is 03:12:42 broken. And I have to say the Brandon Pajemski saga is also a defining part of this season. We should have put him on the hate tier list. Where would y'all put him? He doesn't deserve it. It's time to get over it, probably. People treat him like he's tenassus. I don't know why. Yeah, he's an actual productive player. He'll be on any roster, getting any
Starting point is 03:12:58 playing time. It's hilarious how it started, but it's so funny, I'm not going to get up here and be like, be nice to be pods. But it is hilarious because he does not deserve it at all, but they keep doubling down, hating him more. But it's kind of because he would ask for it. Yeah, sure. Time and time in. But nevertheless, they treat him like he's than asseses. I'm the next stuff Curry
Starting point is 03:13:13 Yeah you kind of asked for it that time Fair Alright next Damn 83 That was a funny night That was a very funny night The fact that somebody scored over 80 points And nobody liked it
Starting point is 03:13:25 That's funny Peak basketball I can't believe this happened Wilt me Kobe I think he's dragging it at this point No Fuck no No he's short 80 you can never drag
Starting point is 03:13:36 Put this next one I agree I'd be for it further He should put this shit on his tombstone What the fuck? Yeah He scored 80 and everybody said you're unethical, I would never stop talking about it.
Starting point is 03:13:43 Dude, I'm gonna rub that in your face. Yeah, what the hell? I can't believe it. He still can't believe it. He's dumbfounded. He's in shock. Like, if you would have told me
Starting point is 03:13:53 that BAM would score 83 points this season before the season started, how I thought, I'm in hell or I'm dead, or I'm dead, bro. Something is not adding up. Something is not adding up. Bam, at a bio.
Starting point is 03:14:04 The least likely. The least likely person in the entire NBA to score 80, 80 points. score 60 points did it and so it's like again I'm mad that they did
Starting point is 03:14:17 what they did to get there but if I did it I'm holding over everybody's head for the rest of time before the season started somebody was like I love Bam he's the best I bet you Bam was scored 70 this year
Starting point is 03:14:29 and he said I'll take all the money in your bank count for you to put it down to bet that he won't do that would you have bet all the money your bank count against Bam dude you'd be on the streets yes I would be homeless right now
Starting point is 03:14:40 I would not have a place to stay because I would have bet my life savings against it. Dude, previous this is, he never even cracked 50 before this, obviously. His career was like 41 or 40 or something like that. Doubled your career high? What the fuck?
Starting point is 03:14:54 It's just like his worst scoring season two in a minute. That's the funniest part. He wasn't like that this year. It was just random. Like the only thing that Smiley well has been Dalton Connect. Might be able to shock me more. I don't even know.
Starting point is 03:15:06 That would be great. Sorry, who's the funniest player you could possibly be to score 83? Grant Williams That's a good answer Wow Fucked That's a good at John Drayden
Starting point is 03:15:15 That would be an insane 30 Because he's not taking no threes John Drayden 62 dunks Yeah I'm insane Oh my goodness Grant Williams scoring 80 would be crazy
Starting point is 03:15:26 Grant Williams would Yeah They kept feeding him the For discourse the funniest Blue Doort's funny Palibank Darrow Oh yeah He could do that
Starting point is 03:15:35 He'd like the timeline Ovar He could do that He could do that What if he could do that He can get real hot. If Bam can do it, shit anybody can't.
Starting point is 03:15:43 That's just how crazy. I mentioned my life savings. Let's not do this again. All right. Next. We have the all-star break as a whole. Just a lot happened during the all-star break. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:15:57 Especially this dunk right here. The KD files happened that weekend as well. There was that Janus meme. I don't know if y'all saw the... She's kind of doing my face, low-key. Let me see you again. He was doing your face. You think you thought about that?
Starting point is 03:16:13 You have the copyright on it. You should trademark that. Yeah. Type shit. Thanks, facts. Yeah. I'm suing you the honest. Mm.
Starting point is 03:16:23 Litigation. All Starbrick was terrible, bro. Dunn contest is washed. I mean, the game was good. And we got the KD files. Is it KD files a separate one on here? The picture of the KD files with him. Wait, wait, wait, just go on, just go on.
Starting point is 03:16:44 Looks like you, if I took off your glasses, just slapped the shit, like, smush your head in and made you real skinny. That's ridiculous. That's look like you a little bit. Smush your head in. That looks nothing like me. Yeah, make your head just mad skinny. He said, he said now. But if I take off your glasses and smush your head.
Starting point is 03:17:01 That would look like you. That looks like Borat. That's what you look like. With the glasses off and your head, smushed in. He looks like Borat. Yeah, this looks like Middle East and Clay Thompson. This is, yeah. How do we get here?
Starting point is 03:17:19 How do we get to this picture? He could have pose for this. You're the color grading. Everyone thought it was AI when we first thought. It still looks like it. It still kind of looks like it's the beard. Why is it so dark? Who filled in his edges like this?
Starting point is 03:17:33 He looks like Drake. What the fuck? Is it DJ Khalid? Facts, yeah. He locked in. 75R DJ Calli DJ Callet if he went to Diamond Gym No this is terrible
Starting point is 03:17:46 He was working out for eight years straight Gainweight Gain Wade I mean he was on Snapchat every day working out Jet Homer was been bulking for two years Lost rates Just can't do it
Starting point is 03:18:03 This was great Chess caving in and everything I literally don't know like how this could happen Like how we let this happen how nobody noticed. Damn, I made them look weird. I gave Chad Holmgren brown face, fuck. Nobody noticed.
Starting point is 03:18:16 That's crazy. You know they got an editing team. All right. I'm going to pull up some videos now that we can pull up from this past season. Okay, let's do it. Yo, this season was insane, bro.
Starting point is 03:18:28 I ain't going to lie. We're pretty healthy amount of funny moments in before. Yeah. I think the funniest may have been like, I forgot, We started off the season strong with this one. Oh shit.
Starting point is 03:18:43 This feels like two years ago, man. That's crazy. Chaunty Billups got arrested at the beginning of the season. And they walked out in a clutch hoodie. To let me know. You better help me here. Don't leave me out the drive, Rich. They handle them business.
Starting point is 03:18:56 Did they do it yet? I don't know. It don't look good. Based off of that news of Damon Jones. Wow. That's how the season started. That's crazy. Yeah, like the first week.
Starting point is 03:19:07 Set the tone for the season. He came up here, I mean to address a Terry Rozier scandal, a Chauncey Bullitt scandal, a Jewish mafia scandal, a Gilbert Arena's house. We forgot about that. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:19:19 That shit was mad. This is hilarious. Gilm got away with that. So smooth. He ducked that charge. It was nothing. Shouted in. No, this is crazy.
Starting point is 03:19:34 They said this is how page beggars and as he flip in a piece. Lamello Ball is the happiest anybody's ever look in their life. This is pure jubilation. This is hilarious. Why is Musa so happy too? Stop!
Starting point is 03:19:59 Stop it! You play too much, Musa. He played too much. He played too much. No, that's wicked. That's insane. He played too much of this. That's so nasty.
Starting point is 03:20:17 Oh, that's hilarious. Oh, yeah, this is the KD files as a whole. No, this might be the easiest. As a whole. The most funniest and embarrassing. Mr. Get Off my Dickerson. No, I started for the top player music. No, we can't.
Starting point is 03:20:31 You go get clashed. All falls down is a great. I'm going to go with this. That's hilarious. This is like the, this is one of the funniest. moments of the decade. Like, this getting exposed by Kevin and the things he got exposed for saying is truly fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 03:20:46 Oh, that's the honest. Yeah. Trying to ration with it. Triple double cocaine bear. And when he says everything too. That's the sentence nobody's ever said before. He's mad creative, bro. That's the funniest part.
Starting point is 03:21:00 He's funny. Dude. Calling Russ that is obviously funny. Triple double cocaine bear. It's crazy. He said I try to criticize Steph in the locker room and they were looking to me like this. that's funny and most of the things that he said it's not a lot I can ration with it he was mostly correct I could have been that's what makes him funny yeah he had no business
Starting point is 03:21:24 being correct about these topics you just can't be the one telling these teams that in these group chat you Kevin around do not need an accurate assessment of operation shangoon you don't need to have that right opinion figure it out is your job so you're here all right next Next, the brawl. The Hornets Pistons braw. I don't know if he can play. He'll we play. Sure.
Starting point is 03:21:46 I don't think anyone gets got some one on. Like, seriously, there's a bunch of dudes hugging and running after each other. Literally. Musa saw blood. And he was ready. I think the funniest part was beef stew holding and literally pulling Miles Bridges's hair. It was like trying to get licks in of the fact. He was born there?
Starting point is 03:22:06 Yeah. I didn't even notice that part. That's funny. Yeah. That sure was hilarious. Yeah. When Sue runs from the other side, that's when it gets crazy. Right here, right here.
Starting point is 03:22:11 He holds his air. You can't see it, but yeah. What a crazy day this was. I almost forgot this happened. I know. You need this every once in a while. And this is why we need the Hornets to lock in, win this playing game so we can get this for an entire series.
Starting point is 03:22:26 It would be very fun. It's the love of God, man. Shut up Musa DiBate, getting on here twice. Yeah. The finding part of two moments in this playoff. Yeah, don't know. Okay, meet this. what's this
Starting point is 03:22:39 this is the lakers free game ritual oh this is tough the edit of this is hilarious IV effects no these edits are tough uh oh I wanted to do it too just now you did do it
Starting point is 03:22:52 LeBron and Brian having this moment is so funny dude there's a video like a bunch of Lakers fans outside of the stadium it's just so crazy on everything he does just cool
Starting point is 03:23:03 that's what is he does do Just go, man. It's tough. Hey. Like what other player can get away with Disrae and do this? Nobody. Bring fans together outside of the stadium doing the same thing.
Starting point is 03:23:16 Just throwing a ball in the air, waiting for it on the second drop. It just, who? What does it inspire you to want to do in this life? Be a leader of men. Would this be a lame celebration of any, if anyone else? Yes. If Tatum did it, hell, yeah. No one else would be doing it.
Starting point is 03:23:35 That is true. People would stop immediately. No, this was funny as fuck. That show was frying me. We got someone in the stand shooting the ball. Bunking concordant. Hey, hey, wash the merchandise. He said, that's the rookie of the year.
Starting point is 03:23:52 Come on, man. That's why he's playing so bad now. Knocked all the sonic coins out. God damn it. Cupid. Cibate concussion. Yeah. It's like a Lego game.
Starting point is 03:24:01 It's a Lego game. It's a little bit more. What did we found that out? No, that'll be. The cons been dealing with a concussion. Yeah, we got to. of jail that fan. For months. We got to find that fan to throw him in jail.
Starting point is 03:24:12 That's the case. All right. There's so much hornets on here. Yeah, this is from like yesterday. What the fuck? I didn't even see this. What? Are you going to show?
Starting point is 03:24:22 What's wrong with this man? No, he did that shit to bam on purpose. What's wrong with him, man? He was pieced up that hornet. For what? Oh my God. Yo, that hornet is... He's scared, man.
Starting point is 03:24:36 Quick little to me. Hit him with a three-piece. The one had to make sure that the mask is still off. As Lamello would knock the mask and the mascot off, that would be so fitting. That would be such a Lamello ball thing to do. Dude, what's he doing? And then the last one, this isn't a video, but just a reminder of the Clint Capella and the honor. They're trying to make me Clint Capella.
Starting point is 03:24:59 I'm not like, I wish. Yeah. He gave us more material, man. Loki, it's things like this where it's like, yeah, you did it to yourself. Yeah. Even if you did get over it, once again, every single year you give us something that is like, yeah, bro, you deserve this hate. You know what? I think we should go back to our cheerless and fix it, man.
Starting point is 03:25:19 I forget this moment happened. He tried to tear down and piss on Clint Capella as if he was just some bum. Hell no. Clint has big of his power just like a top eight center in the league. And what is funny is like, we always see players be like, they're trying to make me do this, they're trying to make me do that. That's not who I am. He named the exact player that everybody besides DeAndre Aden agreed. He should play like he said the perfect vision for me.
Starting point is 03:25:42 I hate that. And then he was like, listen, man, do you want a third contract? Do you want a fourth contract? How about a fifth one? It was funny. He immediately locked it after that too. So maybe here's the critiques and said, no, y'all got it. Maybe that's growth.
Starting point is 03:25:58 Or is it going to be a power situation? We're going to get to the playoffs. He's going to see no Luca, no Reeves. No relapse. All of a sudden, it's my time. I am Joel and B. Yeah. I am Dave.
Starting point is 03:26:08 Robinson. The cops were right. Why not me? You know what? Why not you, DeAndre? And go out and go out and get to 30. Yeah. Quick a little 30. Go saying Kevin ran home alone. Tell LeBron you don't need him. Please. You, y'all, depending on what personality he's feeling that day, like he will believe this. So please stop. Got to settle down? Yeah. I give him the wrong idea. Hey, you can do it.
Starting point is 03:26:29 This ain't shingoon can guard you. How do you feel about that? Me, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I know. I know. I wouldn't. So he needs motivational speakers before every game, man You need that We can have that Can't have that Next thing we're going to do Who is the player in the NBA
Starting point is 03:26:46 At every single position that you guys Need to see the most from in this playoffs So who has the most approved to you at every position Okay Point guard, I don't know if this is fair But I think I want to see What's the Farn Castle has to do He didn't necessarily do anything bad obviously
Starting point is 03:27:01 For me to be like, yeah But when it comes to big feature projection-wise talking, see how he fit alongside in a playoff basketball setting. The thing I want to see how well that three-point shot. That's your point guard. Luke Kinnard, what are you going to do to save LeBron's legacy? What are you going to do to slander Kevin Durant's name? Luke Kahnard, good God.
Starting point is 03:27:16 I've been saying it for a long, long time. Lamella ball, let me see. Let me see what you got in a playoff series. I think this is the first time that, and obviously, Hornets need to handle business. So it would be funny if they don't make it. But I'm assuming they get into the playoffs.
Starting point is 03:27:32 This is the first time in a long time that throughout the year, the conversation around Lamello has been, he's actually a winning player. He's changed his game a little bit. He's made a couple tweaks here and there. He's a winning player. You get into a situation where you can compete and nobody is expecting you to win the series.
Starting point is 03:27:50 We just want to see how you do it. I want to see Lamello ball. It's easily, easily the answer is Lamello ball in our point guard. Like, Con's a rookie. We can be like, okay, he's going to struggle to begin with. That's fine. We want to see you have a chance to upset the number one seed. Lamello has to be like,
Starting point is 03:28:04 best case scenario version of him. Okay. It's the best place to be. When you're in that 1-8 and you're in the area that the hornets are in that Lamella ball is in, all you have to do is just have the piston shook and you're good. If that happens for two minutes, you did your job. Okay. Shooting guard.
Starting point is 03:28:24 Who has the most approved to you? Shooting guard. A. Anne has to go toe-to-to-to-to-with Nicole Yokic. You got to prove you just are a top-five player, otherwise you're going to get smoked in the first round. Stefan Kassel should answer this conversation too a little bit But he doesn't have Do you have Stefan Kass?
Starting point is 03:28:41 All the card in general One or two doesn't matter Okay Yeah it literally doesn't matter De Mitch You better not losing the first round You better not get lost To the Sky Raptors
Starting point is 03:28:51 If I will say this If you're D Mitch and you lose to Scotty Barnes or Brendan Ingram? R.J. Barrett I will say this I think Devin Booker He's not technically in the playoffs yet But shit man
Starting point is 03:29:02 I'm kind of more I'm off to all my future when it comes in. Yeah, we didn't talk about that. Yeah, it feels like the conversations. It's not looking good. Are done. Yeah, I hope not yet. I'm still holding out a little bit, but if he gets eliminated, right?
Starting point is 03:29:16 He's trying to, at this point, yeah, at this point, D. Mitch is trying to stay on pace with it. So that's why I feel like he still has a little bit to prove that he's still at the top, top of the league in terms of the shooting guards. So you're going to go with? Who has the most to prove? I'm going to D. Mitch. D. No, we can't go De Mitch.
Starting point is 03:29:35 He's like solid. I don't know. The team might get blown up. The cabs are not on solid ground. They're not at all, actually. The foundation is quite flaky. And I think a lot of it does have to do with DeMitch. You trade away Darius Garland.
Starting point is 03:29:48 You traded away a 26-year-old point guard to go get James Hardin because you feel like it is a win-down situation. That offense is going to roll through him. I think D. Mitch has a lot to food. Okay. Small forward. You go to Jalen Brown. You're the one option now.
Starting point is 03:30:01 We're saying you're the favorite out of East. you better play like it. I mean, you can scale Stefan Castle up to the three. Jaylon Brown. Jay and Brown has a lot to prove. Prove you are that guy. You might be first team all the NBA. You better carry it to the finals now.
Starting point is 03:30:16 Your running mates coming off the Achilles. Now is your time, if ever. You've been bid your whole career you want at this moment. Now you get to be the guy. Okay. I'm fine with you. Conference is wide open. Go show me.
Starting point is 03:30:25 Are you a man or a mouse, Dana Brown? Let me know. I'm curious. I'm curious. I don't know. I'm open to either outcome. I just wanted you to inform me. And you better have the good hairline spray too.
Starting point is 03:30:35 A bad playoff game and a bad hairline. If you can show me you're a man and with the crispy lineup, I have nothing I can criticize. We have to respect you. Have to. But if you're a mouse with that shit sprayed, coming off, a leaky mouse? Just overpaid at that point.
Starting point is 03:30:54 Power forward. He's Kevin Durant. I'll say Julie's Randall, probably. And a badass. Dubious handle. Yeah. If the Rock is loose to the Lakers. Nobody will ever believe in Kevin Ratt ever again.
Starting point is 03:31:06 We might be at that stage right now. I don't know. But they got a cupcake in the first round, thankfully. If they find a way to lose to the Lakers, I cannot imagine the slander he will take on. Ooh. Does he have, he does have the most to lose, but is that the most to prove? Does Jalen Johnson have a lot to prove? The masses don't care.
Starting point is 03:31:27 Evermobly? I want to say, not Scotty now. I think everyone's given Scotty a grace Because the team constructors is not good Never been good They just don't rate Jalen Johnson And Scottie bars like that Enough to talk about him to that degree
Starting point is 03:31:39 Yeah Um Katie If we're gonna sit on Katie I'm always down to put pressure on Katie I think he's gotta be Kevin around I'm always okay with that If you lose to a team that loses
Starting point is 03:31:48 Two best players You lose to LeBron with no help You come to another team And they immediately fail in every way They can't lose the series You make you unanimous Okay let's do it Yeah
Starting point is 03:31:58 Kevin Doree what are you doing man. Center. Is it Yolkich? Because he has like the toughest fucking breakout, break, or schedule break to in general.
Starting point is 03:32:09 I think, I think Wemby's fair. Everyone's saying that you're best playing in the world level we're here comparing you to legends. You got to pull up your end
Starting point is 03:32:15 of the bargain. I think I would land on Wemby eventually. Big cat? Nah. Loki. He's on the short list for sure.
Starting point is 03:32:22 Maybe you should be Kat because their owner said we need to win a finals this year. If they, if some, God forbid they lose to the Hawks, I don't know
Starting point is 03:32:29 where cats can live next year, but it won't be in New York. Don't speak those indecencies around me. He's been a little top of the next year. He's a war in his life. Hey, man. You're playing against Oprah Peyton, relax.
Starting point is 03:32:39 Listen, man, but he had Danilica on Ari's second best player. Who cares? All right. Cat and Wemby should be one and two for the center position. Go co-center. Give them co-Rookie of your honor. Yeah. Fuck it.
Starting point is 03:32:53 Okay. Cat slash Wemby as our center. Six-man con can'tipal. No. Speaking of Wemby, let's stick on that. topic. Let's do the game where I can name blank players better than I can name three NBA centers
Starting point is 03:33:08 in the last 30 years that are better than Victor women yama right now. In the last 30? The last 30 years centers that peaked higher than victory women yama. Basically since 95. Centers who peaked higher. Centers better than wemby. I can name three. I think I could I can name five better who peaked higher than wemby for sure.
Starting point is 03:33:26 It's going to get harder than you think. Donovan. No six. you don't want to jump too high No I can maybe name seven And that's like the max I'll go Centers
Starting point is 03:33:37 Who peaked higher Centers That's tough Okay I think I can name I can name eight I can name eight I think in the last 30
Starting point is 03:33:46 Yeah I think about 30 years Okay You can name Eight centers better than one be Since 1995 Ninety five Go ahead
Starting point is 03:33:54 Since 95 I'll go sleep Will in there But fuck Okay let's do it Will Listen, man I'm drawing for anything
Starting point is 03:34:03 Okay Kareem, Shack Since 95 Since 95 95, fuck How did you get there? I forget it's 95 Bill Russell had ass
Starting point is 03:34:14 Okay, facts Okay, Shaq Yep, 2000, 2001, peak Shaq easily Akim Yep, 95 Cool, Yokic Hey man Yep, we're still here
Starting point is 03:34:25 That's three, the obvious ones, NVPs Do you want to give him 2023 Joel Embed Yeah I was going to say Joel Embed We'll take that I won't MVP I mean Wembe's at that level now
Starting point is 03:34:35 But the scoring was also On a completely different level Yeah so we can still go Dwell and Beat That's four That's four in smooth Now she gets spooky The last few years of David Robinson I think he deserves a nod
Starting point is 03:34:47 Is it crazy to say that This version of Wembe's competing With the best version of David Robinson Competing by the Competing It's a conversation It's a conversation But we can give you David Robinson
Starting point is 03:34:56 Yeah, I think one MVP in those years. So that's fine. So we'll give you that five. Okay. Hey, the shit intensifies now. I think Webby's at the level of every single other name you could probably say. You got to the technicalities. Let me not, y'all can't forget about Peak Dwight Howard.
Starting point is 03:35:13 Let a team to the NBA finals. I didn't forget. Is Pete Dwight Howard better than Winby right now? Listen, man, he had multiple DPOIs. Great. So is Wemby. By the time, he has none right now. He's been in Winby.
Starting point is 03:35:26 one in about a week. Yeah, it's not a week yet, though. I don't think the best year, Dwight, is necessarily better than when because they made the finals. It's also going to be like too much before we know. Yeah, either way, like one season, two DP-O-Y-level seasons. I don't know that peak Dwight was a better offense
Starting point is 03:35:40 or defensive player than this version. The offense for Dwight was a lot to be. The offense is where I'm going to get caught up at. Man, had two post moves. No shooting. He didn't need it. Yes, he did. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 03:35:54 Yes, he did. If he, if Dwight Howard was a better offensive played, they might have competed for real for real in that finals. Yeah. Listen, man. So I don't think I can give you Dwight. I think at the very least you can argue Wemby's just as good so you can't have it. How about all NBA 2015, John D. Jordan.
Starting point is 03:36:08 Do you like that? Chris Paul's greatest legacy. Please. I wanted to mention Patrick Ewing, but I don't believe in that at all. I think Wemby might be as good as Ewing now. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a easier conversation than Dwight.
Starting point is 03:36:19 We're trying to get to six. I'm trying to get to six. Like, when Biclerckels, Wemby Clears Mark Gull. It's not even close. AD's best year. She's playing power forward. So I don't know if you want to do that. I wanted to ask all along the same minds.
Starting point is 03:36:32 We know he's a center. What did you? Tim Duncan? No. Can you play a lot of center? If we're counting Tim Duncan as a center, then I'll do that. Do we want to count Tim Duncan as a center? I don't think so.
Starting point is 03:36:45 Okay, Tim Duncan and AD or PowerFords. Nah, fine. I just say Biggs in general. I don't think you can get there. See, if we want to have Biggs, I would do Yonis in this conversation. I want to do KG. we're talking about strictly center so it's kind of tough I'm not gonna lie I think I might have failed
Starting point is 03:36:57 because there's like after that there's a gap so says when be the sixth center in the last 30 years center I guess so yeah center if the gap's 30 yeah because we had we had like eight years with the center position was just kind of
Starting point is 03:37:14 kind of dead anyways you're not going to throw yelming in there you're not going to throw out of the next best names we can nominate demarcus cousin DeMarcus cousins. Wemby clears. Alonzo Morning.
Starting point is 03:37:26 Wembe clears. Wembe clears. We already said, yeah. There's not many names. I think it's over. Al For, oh, bam.
Starting point is 03:37:36 Hey, Wembe never scored 83. Oh, shit. Arguing me now. Can't say it. Brooke. Is he changing his game that way Brooke Lopez did? That's an invasion.
Starting point is 03:37:47 Hey. What year was peak Ralph Samson? Like 80s? Way before. 995. What was his absolute peak? It was in 1995. It was like 86.
Starting point is 03:38:00 Okay, okay, okay. Damn. Yeah. You're a funny guy. I'm box, man. Don't ever change. I'm boxed man. I don't, and like, I don't see.
Starting point is 03:38:14 I don't care what they say. You can think. This is cooked. Listen, man, I tried to cheat. I try to, I tried to, I tried to, I tried to, I tried to slide by. I couldn't. I thought the first day was Will it. He goes, no, I'm tripping.
Starting point is 03:38:37 I'm tripping. I'm boxed, man. That's tough. I want to be top six. At this point, yeah. You're very, very specific with those words. He said since 1995, I left up. Wilt died in 99
Starting point is 03:38:55 He was a couple of years away And he was like Yeah, I think he was still hooping at that time He might be a second option But he would say that It's lying on my name Next thing we're going to do I'm going to name an NBA player
Starting point is 03:39:19 You tell me if you think they can start On the 2017 Warriors Amen. So think about that roster. Would you bench any of those players to get this player in the lineup? Are we going off a talent or team construction
Starting point is 03:39:30 and like fit with that team? Of course that. That's the hard part. Okay. That's the got to think about both. 2017 Russell Westbrook? No. No.
Starting point is 03:39:39 You won't bench Clay for Russ? He can't. No. You fuck up like the best shooting back in wherever. Everything. Everything. So they wouldn't win a championship with Russ starting?
Starting point is 03:39:49 Starting, no. They would win because you have clay off the bench you could like balance things out but they don't think they would be a worst team peaks yeah you yeah you yeah you can't do that jelan brown no no you don't bench clay for jaylin brown no nope he can't shoot like him he can't he can't move around around the court like that we're still getting 2017 clay we're still getting good defense um i'm i'm taking play okay jason tatum hmm over who over iggy yeah in that death lineup then yes but you don't go death line up or you want to go like, well, how do you want to interpret
Starting point is 03:40:23 2017 Warriors? Starting five. You should start five. Yeah. So I think they were starting like Javel. They were starting. Or Zaza. One of the two.
Starting point is 03:40:33 Center X. You know what? Yeah. We'll start Tatum at, we'll start Tatum and Jemont. Yeah, I'll figure out with Tater. I think Tatum's just good enough. Yeah, you definitely should start Tatum
Starting point is 03:40:43 over Clay Thompson or the center. Over Javale? Hell now. I know. I refuse. Javell earned this. For years. Javel earned this.
Starting point is 03:40:54 For years he was a laughing stock of the league. Reimagined his legacy. And became a champion. Y'all did not take anything away from Javelle McGee. DeAndre Hayden. Hell no. Dude, Dre wouldn't let that happen at all. Is he coming off the bench?
Starting point is 03:41:10 He couldn't come to the parking lot. Is he the top ten of that team's rotation? Yeah, he can't play over Zaza? Dude, David West's getting burned here. Come on now. I don't know. I don't think I'd want him in the play on rotation. He wouldn't be sending screens as hard as Zaza.
Starting point is 03:41:29 Fuck, no, you wouldn't. Yeah. Austin Reeves. No. He couldn't start. No, because he's too much of a defensive liability. Jaylon Brunson. No.
Starting point is 03:41:37 No. He's not starting. Hell no. Bam out of bio. Yes. Yes. He'd be great. He'll be disgusting over there.
Starting point is 03:41:44 Bro, they had Bam. Fuck. You might score 100. Fuck all that, Spacey. King Carroll would have taken him out in the third quarter. No facts. Palo Van Caro. No.
Starting point is 03:41:58 Is he in the top ten of the rotation? He's not even getting past security at the gates. So I'm saying. No. Am I taking him or Alfonso McKinney? Listen, man. You would have run him at the five the same way we do it, Tate him? No.
Starting point is 03:42:11 Fuck no. No. Okay. I legitimately think when the words were rolling, dude was how fast. His brain would be fried. He said, shut the hell out. Be so.
Starting point is 03:42:22 Yeah, that's... Fuck, no. I hate that guy. Okay. All right. How fast are offensive is where we fry, dude. Carlin down. He can't roll.
Starting point is 03:42:34 Yes. Wait. Cat? No. Start over Javail? I think the defense would... You think they get too mad? Want too many cooks in the kitchen?
Starting point is 03:42:43 You don't need five stars. You need role players. That shooting would be dumb, though. That's basically would be insane. It would be crazy. And the rebounding would be nuts. You just play Draymont at the 5 and you put Cat at the 4. he would start with i could imagine a world where cat gets benched a lot
Starting point is 03:42:57 random for like key that's definitely yes cat starts on the word yeah what are we doing he could start yeah i love him's like y'all are trying to be serious you're trying to be funny javelle mcgee yeah jevill mcgee's a champion you love javel javelle if he have one fan left on this earth he's sitting across me it's me i 100% want to interview joel mcggy one day love javelle mcgis he's still playing overseas shack tried to ruin he's a demon out there too he's a demon he's a best player in his league yeah he takes like he's taking like step back through his over there scoring like 38 dude he's like literally i got to go see him he's like he got to watch the player yeah devon booker be one of the people have the size i flew 10 000 to watch
Starting point is 03:43:43 Devin Booker, could he start? Would he have started over Clay? Would you bench Clay? This version of Devin Booker? No. Ken has a shot the three well in two years. Doesn't defend like Clay. But he's a 33% three-point shooter.
Starting point is 03:43:58 But also, he might be better off than what we're seeing right now. It's simply because he has Steph and Raymond creating for him too. But I'm still taking Clay because the defense is, it's a gap. There's a gap. Zion Williamson. No. absolutely not he's not
Starting point is 03:44:16 you could be on the team you're not starting hey man he will be a change man in those doors he might be a change man in those doors zaymond and draymonto and lobstage zionion no zion and the erin gordon roll we got them in the second quarter maybe in the second half of the third
Starting point is 03:44:33 not not in the first and third we're not starting with that you sure I don't think Zion is not starting Zon will average 25 shooting 95 percent like everything is wide open he's not missing shit with yes 95 percent he would just dunk everything yeah do kd's there still do kd clay and step what the fuck who's guarding that and you got a 300 pound man just wailing at you bro have all the buckets in the world i ain't
Starting point is 03:45:03 guard shit what who's defending him who the fuck tell me who's stopping him 300 pound man just flying at the What are you doing? No, you got it, right? If we start exciting, Zion? Yeah. You can start, man. Oh, my God. No.
Starting point is 03:45:21 Last thing we got today. I can't even fucking think straight. If we had to describe the hierarchy of NBA point guards today in seven levels, which players would you pick? So level one point guard, level two, no, getting better and better, to show someone the range of what an NBA point guard is today. So there's seven levels? Yeah, so level seven would be the top one. So Shea's a level seven. Okay.
Starting point is 03:45:44 Best in the world. He's the pinnacle. Yes. Right under, I think Brunson would be in that second level. Like a Brunson K type of tier? Yeah. Are we putting Steph in Brunson Kade or in the top tier? It's Steph his own tier.
Starting point is 03:45:58 Is he level six? Is Steph the difference between a Brunson and a Shea? Like Steph's right in between at this age? Damn, that's good thinking. No, he's really cooked with that one, bro. How we do that, man? Tennis could think I never thought like that
Starting point is 03:46:20 You really ate with that one What you'd be thinking man Blubbery never would think Yeah So level 7 in MVP Level 5 is Kaine and Brunson Like top 10 players Yeah
Starting point is 03:46:31 Is Steph like fringe top 5 Edge in their winning Yeah Sure Shee Curry Cade Yes Brenton
Starting point is 03:46:40 Sure Brunson Let you get your Knicks from there I got you Now we have four levels below that. Who's a step below Brunson? Middle tier. Is Jamal, like Jamal Murray? Jamal Murray, Tyrese, and Maxie are like,
Starting point is 03:46:54 clear steps below. Because it's like the best version of sidekicks. Yeah, because I think Maxie is closer to the Brunson K tier than than Murray. I think all these guys are kind of similar players. But I think Jerome Murray shows like a peak psychic. That's like a different level of player where you want in that different role. We're doing.
Starting point is 03:47:12 Okay. So Murray over. I'm thinking about that tier. It's like Jamal Murray, Deer and Fox kind of in that in a role. Merge are too good for those confos. Yeah, Dearen's way too soon.
Starting point is 03:47:22 Oh, tier below. Yeah, Murray's graduated from that tier. Okay. Yeah. So level four. Who are the other sidekicks then? In Jamal Murray Hawks?
Starting point is 03:47:29 Yeah. In terms of point guards. Who's a peak sidekick? I think Tyris Maxi would be like ideal world, Joelle leads a better player. So like ideal world, Tyrease maxi is like the best second option
Starting point is 03:47:37 in the world. All right, then we'll go. Yeah, we can pick either one. Austin Reeves, I'll say. Reis could be in that type of conversation So Marry's so proven Yeah he like he encapsulates that Tapateer
Starting point is 03:47:50 So level four So we're at Shea Steph Brunton Jamal Murray Yes and three levels below that For the non-premium players Deer Fox Is he too close to being
Starting point is 03:48:02 Is that a differentiation enough? No I don't think I think there's a clear gap Okay so dear I think I think Dierr does have a We have to see this postseason For him to prove that he's one of
Starting point is 03:48:15 Those elite psychics and do it all this. Let's skip down level one. Who gets to beat the worst level, level one point guards? The worst point guard in the league. Good Lord. Gabe Vincent. Sure. Gabe Vincent gets me level one.
Starting point is 03:48:30 Sure. Level two and three left. Level three, Treon? Mm. Level three. Oh, so level three trey is like a non-premium psychic. Yeah. But do you think Treon could be, if he was playing next to a Yokic could be like in
Starting point is 03:48:41 Jamal Mariah? I don't think he's level two. Come on now. I'm saying, I'm saying would he be on level four? with Jamal Murray? No. Is Jamal Murray a level ahead of Trey? I think so. I think right now. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 03:48:53 Yeah, he is. It's been a couple of years since we've seen Trey B at like that, that level. So that's why I would say a tier below would be Trey O. I would. Okay. I'll be some of the worst. Somebody worse. We have level two and three left. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:49:11 Brian Rollins. Where does Derek White, Derek White's a good name? Derek White's much higher. Is Derek White? White and Jamal Murray tier? Yes. Okay. Wow. Yes. Manuel quickly. Is Emmanuel quickly level two? Like you're, he's like your solid starting point guard? Or should it be La Mello ball. Lamello's three. I think Lamello ball could probably be fair to say he's in Jemal Murray tier.
Starting point is 03:49:33 I disagree. Well, I don't think so either, but like I just mean an interior player. Like do you think people would think that? No, I don't. Okay, so level two is quickly. I like that pick. That's like your standard starting point guard. And then Lamello's three. So who, so if level two is standard starter, Level four is Jamal Murray premium sidekick. Who's like a really good starter that may be an all-star but isn't premium premium? Harden right now. I think he's on Jamal Murray tier still.
Starting point is 03:49:58 Like a premium starter that isn't Jamal Murray. But it's better than quickly. Premium starter. Wouldn't that be the Derek White tier? Am I jumping? That could be Derek White. That sounds like Derek White to me. I don't think he's in the Jamal Murray tier.
Starting point is 03:50:09 That's a lot. Sounds like a little bit. It's a little bit too much. So the seven levels of point guards is Gabe Vincent quickly, Derek White, Jamal Murray. Who did I say after that? Jamal Murray was for
Starting point is 03:50:20 Brunson, Brunson, Curry, and Steph. And Shea. I said curry and Steph. Yeah. Brunson, Curry, and Shea. Mm-hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 03:50:29 Did we cook? I think so. We did all right. Did we cook? I feel like Derek White should be a little bit higher. Be sold as to be cook? I think y'all did.
Starting point is 03:50:36 Great thinking. And I love cooking. Look at that. Look at that. Who cooked to Ciflei. It's so tough. We're going to do this every position in the coming weeks.
Starting point is 03:50:45 So think about that. Yeah. Okay. Where does Zachary Shea fall in small forwards? Say that thought for two weeks from now. I love your commitment to this day. And what that means is the end of this episode. If people are still here, what should they comment?
Starting point is 03:51:00 Just shaking my head, man. How will Richard Shea's legacy be affected? Let me know what you think about recent state's legacy. I'll see y'all next week.

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