The Deep 3 Podcast - We Made The NBA Role Player Hall Of Fame | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: September 22, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are going to make the NBA role player Hall of Fame. We are going to see a series of NBA role players that played over the modern NBA since 2000. And we're going to decide if they get to get placed into our theoretical NBA role player Hall of Fame. The player will decide if they're in or if sorry dude, you don't get to make the first ballots. Okay. So first name to consider in this Hall of Fame conversation, Sergei Bacher. Sorry, bud. He's not first ballot role player hall of fame.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Yeah. Really? He's not. He's not. He got the ring in 2019. Wasn't like a tremendously important role player. He mattered, but he wasn't like one of the two or three most important role players. I think a lot of times with the very, very important role players, you go and you get rings with multiple teams.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Listen, man. And he doesn't really have that. That was his fault. That's not his fault at all. That's just the guys ahead of me. He's a role player at the end of day. You don't get rings if you're a role player. Take it up with Russell.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I'm sorry. Help, you know. Take it up a big boss. I'm making the rules. To me personally, in the skills that he provides, which is like not being a lemon offensively and being able to have a decent mid-range game, spraying things out later in your career,
Starting point is 00:01:07 being a good three-point shooter, obviously at the peak of his power as being one of the best shot blockers in the game and a really important defender overall. I think he's in for me. Not first ballot. Was he ever one of the best shot blockers and a good three-point shirt at the same time?
Starting point is 00:01:21 No, I think that's the issue. I don't think it happened at the same time. So for that reason, sorry, bud. For that reason. I'm out. You're out. Very good. role player but yeah first ballot sorry but sorry dude no no sorry no no sorry no I just
Starting point is 00:01:34 no fuck nobody yeah unbelievably not even buddy just fuck no can tavia's call well Pope two rings on two teams lokey loki loki he he might be able to get in well get you in the hall of fame as a role player how do we decide that I think you have to as a role player you have to do your job when you are called upon you have to have some moments as a as a role player and I do think that just contributing and just being around is a big part of being a role player kCP be around he does be around sure for excepting that he's he's around so i don't know for that aspect so from that aspect i think he makes it in now the moments off the top of my head i can't remember of like oh that's the kCP game yeah the kCP game so maybe he's sorry bud we're gonna be exclusive maybe he's like a he's like
Starting point is 00:02:23 a third ballot yeah maybe eventually if we run out of names for now sorry bud no no oh Well, two rings, though, is nice. You close your eyes right now. I think about KCP moment. I think about that big-ass monitor on his ankle. That's all I think about. Mind you. Did he even, is that fake?
Starting point is 00:02:41 I don't think he actually did that. No, it's real. He never played with the monitor. It's real. You got a 24. Not even 24, right? That was like 2018. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 That was before that. That was your one with the Lakers. It was like 2018. Kendrick Perkins. Hell no. What? He can't be in your end? No, he has a ring.
Starting point is 00:03:03 He's not first ball. He got two rings. He didn't do anything for the second one. So? Doesn't take the jewelry out of his motherfucking finger? It's the same thing with KCP. He'd be around, but close your eyes. What's the Kenji Perkins?
Starting point is 00:03:15 First of all, don't disrespect KCP like that. KCP did way more for the nuggets. The Kendrick Perkins did for the caps. But he'd be around. He does be around. So we'll give you that. Sorry, bud. Sorry, man.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You know, I am sorry to Kendrick Perkins. Sorry, bud. Listen, we're being stingy with this Hall of Fame. It's the Hall of Fame. Somebody has to do it. If the real Hall of Fame won't be stingy, we will. Yeah. O. G. Anobie.
Starting point is 00:03:35 He's in two rings as a role player. First one, he wasn't there for the finals, but he still mattered. He still helped contribute to the team. He was a pesky defender. He was annoying. And 2026, he was like the most important role player of the decade. I think he might have, he might have one of the, he has one of the three best role player moments of all time.
Starting point is 00:03:52 The game winner in the game four? Three best. Of the modern NBA for sure. Three best I got to think about it. it but it's up there it's like it's like oh oh geez tipping point four from derrick fisher robadori big shot robinory either either one of the of the robidori shots or rayall in game six you got that three against the south which two that pissed me off either way oj and obi is clearly the first ballot yep hate this guy you hate that guy how can you hate ogy i actually
Starting point is 00:04:21 don't i like what a swell guy yeah derrick whites oh he's in there too i think derrick white's first team. He's made it in. First ballot. Roleplayer Hall of Fame. Has the championship, has a Spurs era before that. He's like, he's so scalable. He grows into more roles when needed, goes back in a small road when needed. That's what you want from role player. He's a fan favorite because he's bald. You get the
Starting point is 00:04:41 community in. That helps. O.G.'s in there. He's British. He's bald. We get a gimmick involved. They're going to be in the Hall of Fame. Yes. W. Dewee, bro. Next. McHill Bridges. Two final strips. Two teams. He was, so I think he was on pace to be especially early in his career
Starting point is 00:04:58 I think he was especially with the with the game streak he never misses a game something memorable about him I think he's a he's a great teammate guy dances with everybody true he has turned up in the playoffs over the last two years but the first ballot just below
Starting point is 00:05:14 Hall of Fame maybe just below I think it doesn't matter to be an integral part of two championship teams I mean my bad two finals teams I think being able to say two final teams made it with me being one of the five starters and I was like a good starter. I wasn't just along for the ride. Do you think the game street puts him over? Sure. We love a gimmick. That's the giff.
Starting point is 00:05:32 You think you put them over? I'm not even joking when I say this. You need a gimmick to be memorable role player. No, I fully agree. Iron Man is his gimmick. Put him in your in. Okay. He's in. Who is? Oh, Tony Allen. The fuck? I thought it was the That's Tony Allen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Oh, shit. It's just a very dim picture. Yeah, there's Tony Allen. Him in the Bulls jersey makes me like, sorry, bud. It just diminishes his value so much. But he has the gimmick. Obviously he's in. Respect gimmick.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah, exactly. When I say gimmick, I just mean like he's tough. He has that. At the mud. Out of the mud. A contributor to a championship. Yes. But I'm a lower scale, though.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I think the fact that he could not shoot at all and still made it onto the floor and still was a legitimate contributor. It's a strong gimmick. It's a very, very high case into, there's nobody. in the world that's better than me at what I do. I think it's also important to clarify what contributor to a championship team is. He was a contributor but that's different than me like a 30 minute per game
Starting point is 00:06:33 starting role player. You know? So the 08 thing doesn't move me, but I do think the gimmick enough could be in if you guys want to go that route. He's also just amazing. But he's not fucking better than Sergei Baca oh too. What are we doing? No, he's not. You really like him. What are we doing? Maybe. Yeah. He's better than
Starting point is 00:06:49 Sergei Baca. Potentially. Yeah. I mean, no. Probably not. Come on now. But it's, you're acting like Sergio Baca and a superstar. He's a two-way player compared to Tony Allen. He's not better. Yeah. And the defense is a big man and defense is comparable. Yeah, Serge is better. You're right. He'll lock you up too. What do you mean? Nah.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I mean, he's like a bull to y'all. He's not going to bucket on search. No, you're not. No, you're not. The man is not moving right now, bro. Something. It's probably sorry, but in reality, even though we think he's awesome. Sorry, but. Okay. I'll voted. Lamar Odom.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Nah. To ring. Sorry, man. What? Not? He's an offensive leaning role player. but he's still a role player and they got two rings as a starter
Starting point is 00:07:27 I don't think he's a Hall of Fame He got to give me I don't know I don't know if we could say it but you got a gimmick Yeah that's true
Starting point is 00:07:36 Move it over You're in Move it over This is becoming a gimmick Taylorland That's a great point It's a great point Speaking of a gimmick Lou Will
Starting point is 00:07:47 Oh yeah Yes Too gross And they get along Like a moon Yes Hell yeah Two of them
Starting point is 00:07:55 them and they get along. He's damnping Magic City. That's tough. Is he? Two of them. Two of them. And they get along. How many six men of the years did you win?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Like two or three? I don't care. They get along. They get along. They get along. The awards get along. They get along. Tough, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:18 He's one of defining six men of his era. Legitimately great offensive player off the bench by the end of those Clippers years. Six. He had some years. Like he was legitimately a great player. Yeah. Him and Pat Bev just giving random teams fits for no reason.
Starting point is 00:08:31 He was annoying. And I feel like he's like Mr. Six Man. He got a Drake part, man. Stop it. Stop, stop, stop. The basis for his argument cannot just be, yeah, Drake has this song about him.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Well, no, it's not Drake is a song about him. It's the context in which Drake rapped about him. Because once again, I say two of them and they get along. And he's stamping Magic City. Yeah. I think he's. He got wings named after him, brother. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Like no other player in the league has that. Put him in. He probably get along. It's crazy. Kyle Gover. No gimmick. Complete opposite of gimmick. Sorry, but.
Starting point is 00:09:09 He's really good, but yeah, man. He's good. No, he's really good. He's really good. Andre Igu Dugala. He's the question. Do we eliminate star players who are stars and get washed and they're good role players? Do you have to be a true blood role player where you're never a star?
Starting point is 00:09:23 his star was like such like it was short wasn't it was one all star you had a one all star which is okay so he didn't sniff enough stardom that he can still count yeah the niggi you are your in instantly the clearest lock josh hard he has the chip how far can one chip get you we're talking about gimmicks josh hart flying in from the top bro and are they good gimmicks though his gimmick is that he's so bad at something and it never matters because he makes big plays. He's also, he has the gimmick of friendship.
Starting point is 00:09:58 He does have a friendship gimmick. Nevertheless, sorry, bud, I think he's bloodline. We can't get every Nick in there. Why not? Why not? Legitimately, why not? Because, especially before last year, the argument around this team,
Starting point is 00:10:15 and even coming into this year. Say their team of role players. That's what everybody said. They said that they're just a team of just very good players. Before, Kat, for sure, sure. I think considering the fact sometimes it's smart to close games with sham it who should sham it I think we go sorry
Starting point is 00:10:28 but I think he's been sorry but but close the friendship gimmick does give him an argument come on I love the friendship gimmick I'm sorry but I can't blaze too much I can't have him why they got two rings in one year fairs just saying words what does that mean I'm not lying I'm not lying
Starting point is 00:10:44 you don't respect the emirits NBA Cup oh the NBA Cup I forgot about he just jump his ass he teach him some respect that is the gimmick a gimmick You still don't know him. Two ring gimmick is good, but. Come on. Two ring gimmick.
Starting point is 00:10:57 How many gimmicks does he need? Two ring gimmick. Friendship gimmick. Can't shoot gimmick? Rebinder. Tidy gimmick. Come on. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Small rebounder gimmick. He's three gimmicks deep. Holy shit. Fondon. He's one of the best. Come on, man. One of the best. He makes it.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Aaron Gordon. Oh, yeah. You're in. Just by being amazing. Like, just being an incredible role player. Everyone wants Aaron. Pure skill. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Everybody wants an animal. I look if I were disrespecting surge, man. But you love Serge. Bro, Serge. Yeah, I love Serge. But he made three all defensive first teams. That's something nobody on this list can say. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:11:36 He was saying that he left the league in blocks twice. But you love, but you love, search. Three first team all defenses? He didn't have to give his stuff. Bro, he made Kauilander eat Bullsball. on TV. He fried balls Let's take Josh Hart out.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Let's not go leaves. Let's take that. Come on now. Let's keep some integrity. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Starting point is 00:12:01 No. No. What do you mean? No. You got to keep Josh. No. You got who you got to have integrity. This is a serious list.
Starting point is 00:12:08 This is a serious list. First of all, his friendship gimmick is part of the reason why McCale's even here. And good for him. He laid the foundation for McCabe's Hall of Fame. No. His, his gimmick is the foundation for a championship. That friendship.
Starting point is 00:12:22 gimmick carries so hard. Josh has to be here. He can't be alone? No. He literally can't. You can't leave on supervised? Bad stuff happens. You can't?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Just think about. You want to take him out? I want to take him out. Oh, I see what's going on. I see what's going on. I see the play. Alex Caruso. Y'all going to put him in, huh?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Hell yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Ten million. Alex Grosso easily in. A core part of the defense of two championship teams that were championship teams because they're defense. Yeah. Elevated as a role player later in his career too.
Starting point is 00:12:59 This became Clay Thompson from three. Yeah, randomly. He's shoot the ball. What the fuck is wrong with you, right? He's not, he's not normal. And you know what? He's white and bald, but he's also athletic. He jumps high and he's strong.
Starting point is 00:13:10 You don't see that very often. Yeah. Talk about gimmicks. White man that jumped high. That's the guy. That's the white athleticism is just a gimmick. Yeah. Plus the headband, go the headband celebration too.
Starting point is 00:13:20 It's tough as fun. White boy would bounce is definitely a game. He has his own type of swag. J.R. Smith. You're in. What? I don't think he's in. Gimmick, man.
Starting point is 00:13:29 He's not it? He is gimmick, man. What? First of all, he is not Gimmick, man. He's not, he's not, he's not, he's not gimmick, man. It's not, it's not a gimmick. But I do think that the deciding, that's just who he is. I think that the deciding, the defining moment of J.R.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Smith's career is messing up. And that's a very tough thing to overcome. And it is a microcos. of it who he is a player. Sorry, man. No, he's givic, man. He's not first ball.
Starting point is 00:13:55 What do you mean to tell me? You're a better contested three-point shooter than you are wide open. Makes no sense, bro. That's a good gimmick. Like, you're ridiculous. He's not first bad. He makes the only issue so far. It's sorry, bud.
Starting point is 00:14:06 No, that's crazy. Oh, yeah, we're being stingy now. Uncle Josh Harvey. Danny Green. It's funny, funny to say, but unfortunately he's your end. Is he? Three rings on three teams? He's actually first ballot.
Starting point is 00:14:19 His first ballot and shit. We might name the fucking hall after him. He is three. and D man, you're right. He is like the three and D player of all time. Like no one ever like makes that definition better than him. Three rings on three teams in your prime. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Javel McGee. Sorry, bud. Two rings on two teams though. Love you, man. He helped LeBron's legacy and stuff crazy legacy. Who else can say that? Grame on Green. It could have done it without Steph.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Maybe. Double entendre. Whatever. Let you figure that one out. Javelle McGee, sorry, bud. Sorry, bud. Okay. Sorry, but. Shane Batti.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I think Shane can get there. Was he bald? I don't think he's first ballot, though. Was he bald? No. Late career? No. He was rocking that point five.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I just can tell the difference. Was that going to be a defining gimmick to get him over the line? I was wanting to argue for it. That shit is the Clipper Open Guard, man. Is he first ballot? He's good enough to be in. Has a Miami ring? He's two.
Starting point is 00:15:21 He was there for him. Two Miami rings. And he was like a really good role player before that for teams that worked championship caliber. There was the shame baddie a game as well. Him and Mike Miller were going crazy. He's good enough.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I don't see why not. If McHale's there, he can be there. Surge is outside the club. Just can't get in. Oh my God. Three first team all defense. Bro, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:40 If I hear one more thing about Sir, that's crazy. I'm going to lose it. Doesn't Tony Allen also have three first teams? No. He doesn't? Let me fact check that. He's just lie.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I just said it off Tony was never first team he was first team but I don't think he has as much of search though He has three Three first and three seconds Yeah Now what
Starting point is 00:16:03 He does have three He would have four but he got hurt one of those years Now what Did he ever come second in DPOI? No, he came fourth So I'm saying different convos man Shut up He was on the ballot
Starting point is 00:16:16 He was top ten five times That counts for something Sure I say we put Badi A in That is Al Horford Was Al Horford too good at his prime To count for this list
Starting point is 00:16:27 Even though he had a lot of years He'd been a good role player Bro, he has like five All-Stars To his name or some crazy like that But he was washed though He was watched for a long time But the problem is Do you get disqualified
Starting point is 00:16:35 When you have multiple time All-Stars? I think if you're viewed An All-Star that many times This is our Hall of Fame We can decide We can say no superstars Leave some room for the little guys His career as just
Starting point is 00:16:45 Role Player is Hall of Fame worthy But that's not the point The point is, is our criteria save room for the little guys and washed up stars can't get in. Of course they're going to be good role players. They're watched up stars. I feel like just as a role player, it'd be like, what, 23, 24, 25, that's it?
Starting point is 00:16:59 You think that he wasn't a role player to 23? Yeah. There's like a legitimate, like, started for him. All right. So war players are starters. Oh, geez a role player. He's a starter. I guess.
Starting point is 00:17:11 In fact, they're all starters, for real. You want to put him in role player, I'm fine with that. I think we can say multiple time all stars. At that point, you're farming, trying to make the role player, Hall of Fame by being a star and then having a role player. Why? He had two careers.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Every NBA star can do that. Actually, not every. Sometimes they fall off. But like a lot of them can do that and be technically a role player for a while. Paul George is, I guess, I'm technically a role player now. Is he going to make it to the role player hall of fame? He might not make this. Maybe if he was on 24 Celtics, he would have won to, like he could have. Al Horford and one, his archetype and the fact that he can knock down threes, that he is old as hell, can still defend. I think that as in just this five years, period, I think that that is enough to classify him as a role player and to put him into
Starting point is 00:17:54 the Hall of Fame. We don't disagree with the premise. It's just like should we disqualified guys. I don't think he should be disqualified. Yeah, I think I think I'll be in. Okay, there you go. Then you're in. Let's go. Michael Porter Jr. Sorry, man. There's not even a Hall of Fame, bro. There's only one more. There's only one more. There might be like a podcast or Hall of Fame for him pretty soon. Yeah. Is he going to make that? He's deadly on the mic. Deadly on the mic. He has a is a niche that no other NBA players wanted to occupy the blockheising game. That's how you take over. We're not going to occupy it.
Starting point is 00:18:26 That's how you take over. You find a market, you find space within the market. You take that over. Now what market did he see? No jumper. Next up, Robert Ory. Damn. This is role player man here as well. First of all. He looks so much like
Starting point is 00:18:42 you. Holy shit. Every time I glance out. It flucks you up every time. This is first. First ballot hands down. Easily. Yeah. There's no conversation.
Starting point is 00:18:54 No conversation. You're in. Damn. Jamal Crawford. Yo, same bad. Yeah, you gotta get out of here, man. Oh, we're... What?
Starting point is 00:19:01 This is role player, man. This is Jamal Crawford. We can put them both in. Can we? Oh, there's no space? Yeah, we can do as much you want. Oh, okay, cool. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Jamal Crawford makes it first ballot? Yeah. 100%. Mr. Six-Man? Yeah, for sure. And like the or he has, like the aura of being so unguarable and the crazy handles, he's in. Yeah. Jay Reddick.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I think he's in. Yeah. He's in. Probably not. Hall of Famer? Yes. He's a good player for a long time, but probably not quite a lot of man. He's one of the best shooters of this last generation.
Starting point is 00:19:28 What does that mean? Yeah, everybody's like, what do you mean? He's not one. He's not one. When the clippers were choking. Wait, what? I just said so was caught. True.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Oh, oh. I thought you said out of Horford. Sorry. I thought you did self-de-lis. Relax. I thought you did he do something. When the clippers were choking. Giving up that 3-1 lead, where was J.J.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Ruddick? He would ask you, where was Doc Rivers. I would say both you can fuck off Yeah, I'm gonna say no Yeah, not quite, not quite You say he's one of the best shooters of his era Is he a top five shooter of his era? Probably not The era is tough, obviously
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yeah, that's a point But I would say like 2012, 2013 2011, yeah he was He loves 2012 2012 Sorry, buddy, Sorry, bud
Starting point is 00:20:14 PJ Tucker Steph Clay Ray We know he's up five You said Ray Instantly. He's not making it. PJ Tucker.
Starting point is 00:20:24 He's right on the line. Dude, he's Mr. Gimmick, man. All you do is be big. He's right on the line. He's really good. It was very particular type of player. Yeah. Got the ring in 2021.
Starting point is 00:20:35 He has the shoe gimmick. The shoe gimmick. The Rocket Series he didn't get his ring, but he was an important part to a Western Conference Finals team. He was playing center. Oh, him and Robert Covington holding it down.
Starting point is 00:20:45 That's fucking ridiculous. Put him in there. You're in, buddy. Go ahead. That's it. And that's the last one. Okay. There we go.
Starting point is 00:20:54 We got 12, 14 names made the whole thing. Y'all were ridiculous. No, we're not. Yes, you are. No, we're not. Yes, you are. We're good. Josh Scott Jarosmith.
Starting point is 00:21:03 He'll be fine. He'll have a blast. They'll have a good time. They'll have a good time. Yeah. And PJ is there, too? Yeah, he's chilling. I never doubt it if they had a good time.
Starting point is 00:21:12 But Mark is Marka smart was snug. Just saying? You just want to seem sorry, bud? Just to see him there? Nah, he's best role player with our a ring. He's a DPOI, man. Best role player without a ring. Without a ring.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Best role player without a ring. I'm going to say no. I don't even think about it. Yeah. He's better than... He just didn't think about it. Yeah. He's better than Lou?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Okay. Second best role. He's better than Jamal. Yeah.

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