The Deep 3 Podcast - We Made The Ultimate NBA Playoffs Pressure Bracket | Ep. 202

Episode Date: April 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The NBA playoffs are only 12 days away. They swear. I swear. It's quite a good thing. You might think some of us up here would be excited. 12 days away from watching our teams. Try to win an NBA championship. Try to make a push.
Starting point is 00:00:13 A guy like me, I'm having a terrible weekend. Why? I'm not thinking about the playoffs at all anymore. Why? I hope we can watch Atlanta Hawks hoops. I hope at least we have solace in that during the playoffs because we're damn sure not going to be watching LA Hoops.
Starting point is 00:00:23 There ain't have to hope anymore. Yeah, that's not happening. Yeah. I'm not watching Lakers. I'm not watching Hawks. one mind one thing on my mind that's the next
Starting point is 00:00:34 getting this championship running it back I'd rather watch getting what it's stolen from us notice that didn't mention them notice that just let them
Starting point is 00:00:41 be in their own little corner yeah punch each other in the head y'all just won like 50 games for like the third straight season just enjoy like the little things of life
Starting point is 00:00:48 you know we're so bad with that being said lots of news to talk about today highlighted but like I said the Lakers falling apart we'll get into that and as you see about title
Starting point is 00:00:57 the main topic today we are going to put some of the biggest stars in the NBA into a bracket based on who has the most pressure going into this playoff run. We have 32 NBA stars going down to list seeing who has the most to prove, who has the most to lose, who desperately needs to perform. Come playoff time.
Starting point is 00:01:14 You know what this sounds like? What? Narrative. There you go. You know what this sounds like agendas. Pretty much. So yeah, that'd be fun. We'll put people head to head,
Starting point is 00:01:24 see who has more pressure on them until we see who wins the crown of the most pressure on their shoulders in this year. playoffs. Okay. Let's do it. Now that being said,
Starting point is 00:01:32 cue the intro music. Let's cry a little bit. We're throwing it back. Whoa. That's crazy. He was bragging. I hope you didn't say. The cranium is crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Oh my God. Crowd eaters rejoice. Like I said in the intro, we had to talk about the fact that the Los Angeles Lakers season just died in a mother fucking whimper overnight, literally, overnight. The Los Angeles Lakers season ended. After they played the Oklahoma City Thunder, got absolutely railed. It was a bloodbath from the first quarter, as a Thunder tended due to Luca
Starting point is 00:02:17 Donchish Latins to the Lakers. I'm used to seeing it by now. Didn't mind that. After the first quarter, I said, okay, whatever, they're on the Thunder's level. This March run is cute, but there's still, there's levels to this thing. We kind of knew that, right? Then the next morning, we get this report from one, Shams Sharania, Los Andrews-Laker star Luca Donchich is out indefinitely due to a left hamstring injury.
Starting point is 00:02:38 He will miss the remainder of the regular season and his status is uncertain beyond that. What was your reaction when you saw this tweet? Damn, Lou Dorr got another one. Bodies are dropping. Yeah, so that was one thing, right? That happened. Season kind of goes up in flames. Now we're like, oh, can he come back halfway through the first round?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Will he be there for the second round? Buddy, there is no second round of the playoffs without Luca Donchich. There is no advancing pass of Timberwool's without Luca Donchich. And then it got worse. Then it got 10 times worse because not only they had to watch the Lakers try to win a playoff series
Starting point is 00:03:08 without one of the best players in the world. There goes another all-star for you. Lakers guard, Austin Reeves, has been diagnosed with a gray two left oblique muscle injury and is out for the main
Starting point is 00:03:17 of the regular season. Two birds, one stone one day. Lutort got another. Now, you didn't curse this one, so I can't believe you for this. Lou Dior was on one. It was a master class.
Starting point is 00:03:27 He came out, hit four threes with four for four, taking guys out, left and right. It was the peak Looddor experience. I could not believe what I was seeing. That's two booms. Boom.
Starting point is 00:03:41 It was crazy, though. Like in for, for as hyped as this game was for like, you know, Lakers Thunder, let's see where the Lakers are, are at, right? They are basically locked into the three seats. It's going to be such a, such a fun night. Everybody's here. Everybody's healthy. and then all of a sudden in five minutes everybody knows okay this game is over
Starting point is 00:04:06 six minutes Austin Reeves is holding his hip every time down the floor and it felt like a movie like watching everything just crashed second by second I was so sad I was like no no stop it yeah he held it the first time and I was like oh dang like he got he got hurt and then two minutes went by he was still holding it after every plane
Starting point is 00:04:26 I was like oh no yeah it was sad it's rap it's like one thing for Luke to be out but it's another thing for your second star guard who can do similar things ish to Luca. And now the scene is just like left to die with literally no hope at all. At least it would be like interesting with Austin Reeves and LeBron running the show. But now it's just like, oh my God, I'm watching Luke Carnard Rand Hoops right now. It's completely deflating. I generally don't think there's any worse way to watch your season and as a fan than this right now.
Starting point is 00:04:57 You're butt blasted and then on top of night. So you lose not one but two stars. And then after all of that, then you have to go on the road and watch a team get 40 put on you by Cooper Flag. Like that's tough. And shout out to LeBron because he had a good game last night, but it's very, very clear at this point, without those two guys, we're talking four games, five games, right? If they play the Rockets, if you now have the two teams, the two teams that everybody wants to play. And the the standings are obviously like moving every single day. But you want to play the Lakers more so than you want to play the Rockets now.
Starting point is 00:05:37 If they played Minnesota again, five games? They're getting swept. Swepped. Okay. I would hope so. Like if you lose one game to Luke Conard and LeBron James Hoops in 2026, I'm just saying. With John Drayton, with nobody to set them up?
Starting point is 00:05:53 If there was a team that could lose one game, it would be, it would be, Minnesota. Or the Rockets. You can get one off either. They can both do it. Maybe they have a Vintes LeBron performance to get one game. But even in this game we just saw. But this is over now. Great game from LeBron. First half was killing it. Second half, we saw that stamina. It's tough for this age. I'm going to do it two ways for both quarters, which he has to do. With this lineup, he has to be 2018, LeBron James. Luke Conard had a triple double. Yeah, I did see that. He had like 10 assists. How many rebounds do you have? I think it was some crazy number. Like 14. He had 16. Yeah, 16. That shit was so dumb.
Starting point is 00:06:25 mind you you know whose career high is not 16 I saw a poll about it this morning because somebody tagged me it was it was Luke Conard the question was whose career high at 16 16 rebounds
Starting point is 00:06:38 it was Luke Conard and who's Jerry Jackson What the fuck No one mentioned that minute Like four months That's a straight That's a straight It was just funny
Starting point is 00:06:47 And like shout out Luke Conard He was playing making Keeping the ball moving They were doing a lot more Offball movement A lot of split action Doing what they got to do With no point cards out there
Starting point is 00:06:55 but they truly have no point guards. Like there's really no hope in hoping LeBron James can scale up for four quarters for four straight games in a playoff series that's asking a lot of him at his old age. Now you've got to pray Marcus Smart stays healthy because he's your true point guard.
Starting point is 00:07:08 We've been talking about DeAndreid having an up and down season but a lot of good to go with the bad because he's being set up by Luca by Austin Reeves as an easy role for him. Who the fuck is in a setup DeAndrean Lobs now? That's not LeBron's bag anymore. I guess Marcus Smart.
Starting point is 00:07:21 We're not going to get a good version of Aiden for a playoff run. So you don't even have that to say maybe he can scale up. up and give you something. Everything that enables him to be good, gone. Everything that enables the shooters to be good. Luke Kanaard, give his wide open looks all the time, gone.
Starting point is 00:07:33 This is the team least equipped in the playoffs to deal with two guards being gone. They have literally no other point guards of merit. Yeah, exactly. And coming off the bench, who the fuck do you guys have? What's going on? Ronnie James, oops. He just got important at work. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:07:46 This is time to shine. Man, he's been so fucking good in the G-Leat. He says numbers are ridiculous. He's a fucking G-League All-Star. hopefully all that, some of that I can scale up in the like in the playoffs or whatever I guess it sounds in the playoffs. But fuck at this point in time like he's who you guys genuinely will rely on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And then they have Kobe Buffkin, Nick Smith Jr. on a two-way. Jared Vanderbust a little bit point forward at times. He puts the ball in his hands. Yeah, man. It's it's wraps. I think for the Lakers like Jackson Hays and get a rebound and take it in transition. God. Good God, man.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It's not like anybody had any real hope for y'all in the playoffs, but y'all were definitely going to be interesting. Yeah, we did. I disagree. We talked about for two straight weeks. We had plenty of hope that they could be that team that makes a run and that they're not going to beat the Thunder probably. They're not going to win a championship.
Starting point is 00:08:37 But we had plenty of hope that with the way they're playing in March, with Lugudanches playing some of the best basketball who's ever played his life, LeBron James buying the third option role and killing it over March, we had plenty of hope that they could be in the conference finals, that they had a more than puncher's chance given the weakness of some of the imperfectness of some of the other contenders out West. we had plenty of reasons we're optimistic about the Lakers despite their weaknesses and now poof none of it matters for sure when i say that i just mean that you guys were never in like tier one
Starting point is 00:09:03 in conversations ever throughout the entirety of the season but still without it out we if you've seen crazier things happen and shake out in the um conference finals before but uh again see all this happen and how you guys just like caught all the perfect amount of momentum towards the last what 15, 20 games of the year and had all this go out on a whim I don't think you can be any worse right now. Yeah. And like you're right. I also am like it would be worse if they had like made that
Starting point is 00:09:33 trade deadline trade gone and got a wing and we felt like this team could beat anybody because they finally got their missing piece. They didn't do that. So you're right because of the fact I hadn't to hope they're going to win the championship. I wasn't like completely torn up by it. It sucks now the most. Never a few days removed thinking about it because it's all like no reason to watch anymore.
Starting point is 00:09:50 It sucks the most though for LeBron James. Yeah. Every, there's like, how many years now was a Lakers career? He goes out
Starting point is 00:09:56 the whimper for things have nothing to do with him. Another year wasted of his career, zero chance to making a playoff run.
Starting point is 00:10:02 He was, dude, it looked like he was gearing up and ready to make a good playoff push in this third option role.
Starting point is 00:10:07 He was really heating up at the right time. Some of the on-ball juices come back compared to really, really close when he had sciatica.
Starting point is 00:10:13 It looked like he was primed and ready to make at least one more push in this new role and give himself a chance to do something in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:10:19 now he goes outside again with literally no hope we're getting past the first round. Yeah, man. At this point, like, like with the Lakers and especially moving forward, it's going to be so interesting
Starting point is 00:10:32 how they approach the off season because now, like, there's no, there's no scenario where they can make that, that deep, like, conference finals run and then kind of trick yourself
Starting point is 00:10:43 into thinking, okay, this roster is, like, is actually not bad and then you run it back. Like, I do think that it, it gives you an opportunity to completely, to completely invent this,
Starting point is 00:10:56 this roster around Luca into something that you think can be there going forward. And like, you're, you're going to go. You're going to get destroyed in the first round. And Bron may be there next year. He may not be. And, but I think this gives you kind of like that out that you look, that you basically have been looking for for the last like six months of year. Like, you know, I think we're kind of done with the like,
Starting point is 00:11:19 LeBron James era in in LA and we can fully move on to to Luca basketball and really, really start prioritizing it. So that might be the only thing. That might be the only thing that you could look at and say, okay, fine. I get it. They're going to do that anyways. And now you just robbed one more year of hookah hoops in the playoffs. I understand it. I think no matter what, they're going to make that pivot. So I wouldn't even allow myself to have that silver lining you're trying to throw. I think either way is unfortunate to lose a year of prime Luca basketball. Are cool, where your life sucks. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Exactly. They already knew that and move on. Now, I mean, inversely, you already knew this might be your last year of LeBron James or maybe a one more year if you wanted to do a retirement tour. Now your last year of your LeBron James is wasted. Tough.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Tough. What the fuck do you, like, what new information do you get out of this season, man? Like, how do you like encapsulate this Laker season? Ah. I don't know there is any. Yeah, you don't learn anything new for real at all. You learned that LeBron James Cam played their adoption hoops?
Starting point is 00:12:16 And it doesn't matter anymore. You know Austin Reeves is like that now. Yeah, you learn that you 100% like have to pay also Reeves. Well, no, that's another good question, right? One thing we're not going to learn is what an Austin Rees playoff run looks like. Because I think if a free agency started today, he'll get 30 mil, maybe 35, at least, at least. Yeah. If he went out there and he killed it in the playoffs, cooked JD & McDaniels at time instead of getting locked up like last year and like proved that like this is an all-star level player that will be in the all-star game next year.
Starting point is 00:12:45 we're talking 40 mil for Austin Reeves He could have earned himself An extra 5 to 10 mil Now we lose that opportunity And I think they'll probably default To him just like being on the higher end Just because like he didn't lose that value But it would have been a lock for him
Starting point is 00:12:58 If he would have came out and had a good playoff run Yeah It's a lot of money man You know how many teams would love to have Austin Breeze right now I think he would have gone throwing so many offers And honestly it probably He might be
Starting point is 00:13:09 He will yeah he's still gonna get money Don't throw that at him Yeah Well maybe I think they're just gonna like giving the match extension like the first day. Like, I don't even know if he's going to really court thing because like, he's back. Here's my number of Lakers and they're going to be like, but. You got to have, yeah, you kind of have to do it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Especially like going into another year of LeBron, if he's there, if he's not, and just knowing how much offense you're going to need from the two guards, that's fine. This is also kind of, you know, that the Luca is going to go, you know, get specialized medical treatment in your, he's going to, listen, if he tries to come back, that's straight tenderism. For the hamstring. Yeah, for those who didn't see, Shom says,
Starting point is 00:13:49 after consultation with Lakers' doctors and his own medical team, Luca Donchich will specialize medical treatment in Europe on his grade two love hamstring in an attempt to expedite his return to play. The link between James Hardin
Starting point is 00:14:01 and White James Hardin grow stronger and stronger every day. Now, you better hope that this doesn't cook him for the next two years. He cooked James Hardin forever. He's never had the same birthday since then.
Starting point is 00:14:10 But he's also old. Do you want Luca to like actually try to come. He woke him with Ben. Why the fuck would he do that? No, I don't care. If Austin was there,
Starting point is 00:14:20 I mean, if he finds a medical like specialist that agrees that it's reasonable and has a treatment plan different than the Lakers doctors, and the Lakers doctors see it
Starting point is 00:14:30 and they agree it's reasonable and everyone's all kumbaya we have a chance, I guess. Come back with first round, maybe he can surprise people. At that point he will have been three weeks removed
Starting point is 00:14:40 from having good conditioning for having good rhythm, a player who desperately needs a good shoot like we see early in season sometimes, that sure, maybe it's better to get some kind of Luca Donch's performance in playoffs and nothing, but considering the fact that
Starting point is 00:14:51 Austin Reeves isn't going to be there, most likely, and the roster isn't necessarily the strongest to begin with. You're not going to be favored in the series, even if Luca comes back before game one, not worth it. Not worth it at all. They're going to build him a hamstring out there in Europe, like to let
Starting point is 00:15:07 him come back. I think like he probably yeah, I don't think he ends up playing, but it would be, it would be crazy, I think, to, to rush Luca back and have him try and play. Because the last, the last couple times I just, you know, that are in my mind of people playing on hamstrings, like obviously Aaron Gordon, you know, played, played on a hamstring last year.
Starting point is 00:15:34 It didn't work out. People have been circulating the clip of OG two years ago when he had a hamstring. Like he hurt his hamstring in game like four of the series and he was back for game seven And shout it to OG because he hit two three to start the game He was trying his absolute best and then they just started saying Pascal go score And Pascal was just destroying him Dude he was limping on one leg they said they said they shot him up with horse Trangleizer
Starting point is 00:16:06 It's probably gonna look closer to that if you bring Luca back so I in most of the time I am like Like, yeah, like, you know, if you're the player and you can, you can try and play, go out and play. This is one of those situations where I agree. Don't. There's no need to come out and play. Which is also like, hey, you, you know, it's LeBron, Big Three. They're going to have one of those graphics where it's, it's going to be broad. Like the Big Three graphics is going to be Bron, Lucanard, and Rui.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's going to be disgusting. No, it's more disgusting. It's going to have DeAndre Aiden on there. And he's not going to throw him love, so he's going to finish the game with eight points and six rebounds while he's on the graphic. That's the surrealest shit ever, man. It'll be LeBron, Marcus Smart, and Aiton. That's disgusting. Versus Anthony Edwards, Rueh, O'Barre, Julius Randall.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah, boss is, it's rapes. Also, he hates, it's been so funny seeing the hate that LeBron has for Rui. Because Rui messes up so many times on so many rotations. on so many just like letting the other guy get a rebound over him and the ball get embounding and lebrons is looking around like bro what are you doing lock it he hates him so much and it's hilarious he's such like a vintage role player from the 2000s this like he can take exactly one dribble and pull a contested midi always goes in he can't spot it from the corner can't do a thing else on the basketball courts doesn't rebound doesn't make good reads defensively to have
Starting point is 00:17:36 any sort of room protection with that size doesn't fight over screens isn't a good passer straight, mid-range over people's hands and corner threes. That's a 10-year NBA player, man. Yeah, well, he's in what? You're like years seven now? Yeah, he's on the way. Yeah, he'll get a contract this summer
Starting point is 00:17:54 from hopefully 18 Mata Lakers another three more years. He'll hit that 10-year veteran mark. Oh, 100%. Yeah, that pension is all the way. Yeah, easily. It's on the way. And you know,
Starting point is 00:18:04 it might be reasonable for some team to sign him as a shooting specialist. Not mine. Shooting specialists? I guess. That's what he is. Yeah. He's Calcover without the wiggle.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Without the running off screens. That's how he has to be used. All he can do is give you buckets. All he can do is be slow. He's chanting fry a little smaller. That's a pickup basketball player. He's a pickup basketball player. That's what he did.
Starting point is 00:18:28 He's a really good shooter. Like, it is a skill. But yeah. This dude's Cam Wilder. Shout out of Cam Wilder. That was crazy. Cam Wilder. It's not the NBA.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So it would be a, would be crazy. Also, Jake La Ravia just be out of the run around trying hard, missing. I feel so bad for him, man. He's not supposed to be in this position. And he's been in this position multiple times throughout the year. Luke and I's the second best offensive player at my best football team. He's getting them three.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And y'all got to play him and why I'll play him? He's going to be running the other teams literally running whoever offense every single opportunity they have. It is going to be funny when it's going to be like game three of the playoffs. and we're going to get the stat tweet afterwards of like LeBron and Luke Conard are only the third combination of teammates to ever have a triple double
Starting point is 00:19:20 in the same playoff game. Y'all, this is sad, man. This is sad. That's our Lakers talk. Let's get on to the main topic of this episode. We got to talk about the stars with the most pressure on their shoulders this playoff run.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I have the top 32 players that will be in the playoffs. Some of them won't make it out of the east playing, but most these teams, I think, will make it. So whatever it means to you, whatever expectations are on their shoulders from your perspective, who has the most approved, the most pressure mounting on them as individuals aside from just the team dynamic. Okay. We have 32 in this bracket. Starting off in round one, Anthony Edwards versus Bam out of bio, Mr. 83.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Bam is a maid man. Bam can do no wrong for the rest of his career because the way that he is moving post-83 point game. and like he he is moving as somebody who just scored 83 points and so anytime anybody has any criticism of the Miami Heat for what they are this year or a Bama or BAM he can look at anybody in the world and say for I scored 83 this season I'm good I'm okay it's not him and also we also just don't expect anything of the Miami
Starting point is 00:20:35 in the in a playoff situation so he's good I feel like the answer here is very clearly anti-Edwards. I think it probably should be anti-Edwards, but when it comes to BAM, I do think that there is a certain amount of pressure when you score 83. Everyone's going to be looking at you a little bit differently. If you have bad games, people are going to be like, man,
Starting point is 00:20:54 this is who we let have 83 points. Against the Wizards. He got six shots up. He said they did their job. Now listen. Man. I was not watching that game at all. Me neither.
Starting point is 00:21:03 My bad for a while watching April, April Washington, which is basketball. I'll see you missed out on the March. As he drops 83 as it happens You better tap the fuck in To bam out of bio Overst the Wizards
Starting point is 00:21:13 God damn You better have learned For your first mistakes Leaving through it Cinema happens But I guess it is Anthony Edwards Like if he does have a bad Playoff series
Starting point is 00:21:23 Which would be insane For insane to happen I think people are gonna recalibrate expectations Maybe just a little bit But he's still gonna be You're still gonna be in his top 10 for sure Yeah I think he actually has a lot of pressure On your shoulders right now
Starting point is 00:21:33 He's basically the point guard now The starting I was in these games Who alleviates some of the ball handling It's been really good for him but he's having a strange season where I think before the year after he developed that three point shot last year and not people refer to him as
Starting point is 00:21:45 Steph Curry's jumper with Dwayne Wade athleticism which is like a crazy imagination of a player sounds like a micro Zamba title right there exactly so he's kind of gotten that reputation of being such a high level player he got like a shoe in the top five talks I think Wembe's kind of displaced him from that a little bit but he still talked about as like
Starting point is 00:21:59 the clear cut next guy after that MVP group waiting to kick down the doors of being in that MVP group himself he has to have a great playoff series Because the reason he gets that type of nod is because he's been so good in the playoffs in the past couple years. And he's out of kind of a strange season where he's still been really good offensively. He still made improvements.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Maybe his worst defensive season since his like Ricky year. Playmaking hasn't been fantastic. A lot of Wolfe fans crying about him not being in shape. There's a lot of question marks looming that if he doesn't perform amazing in the playoffs, people will start to nitpick him really fast. Yeah. And I want like the last two times they've made it to the conference finals. until some of this stuff has been glossed over.
Starting point is 00:22:38 But like even in that, in the game seven against Denver two years ago, he didn't shoot well, right? He did a whole bunch of other things and he was very impactful in other areas. But the anti-Edward skill of scoring was not on display in that game. Last year, there were a couple games
Starting point is 00:22:55 where he's shooting, even in the Warriors series, the shooting wasn't, and the scoring wasn't as good as it normally is. But Julius Randall was coming in and he was playing really well. I would like to see a start to finish just like I'm dominating everybody. Yeah. From, and putting together all the pieces like you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:23:13 the in shape come together, the defense comes back. We'll see what the playmaking looks like, just because obviously like playoff defenses are different than the regular season ones. But, yeah, I feel like it is, even though that his position in the league is solidified, it can, he can jump, I think, a lot of, a lot of places. And I think he can,
Starting point is 00:23:34 I think he can get into the top five with the good run. I mean, the top five is so hard to get into. I think it's kind of, I mean, those top five, you know, Yokic, Shea, Wembe, Yonis, Luca. And that's where. Okay, Janus. Yeah, I think the Janus thing,
Starting point is 00:23:49 and especially just in terms of conversation, availability, we haven't seen Janus in a meaningful playoff game in four years. Yon. It's been a long time. So I think it has a way where he can, if he has these playoff runs, we can leave the
Starting point is 00:24:06 postseason be like okay yeah Wemby has ascended and he's in there now and then also has displaced Janice I think that's on the board Yeah to me that'll be more about Janus than anything It'll be like Well the Janice stuff is done is what I'm saying Like his part in all of this is over
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah for sure but I don't I don't really see a path to Anthony Edwards this year Me thinking he's a better player than Janus So it'll be a conversation of like availability And all this other stuff so you're not wrong I just To me that wouldn't be him taking a big leave. I'll just be like more reason to pal on Janus for, if we didn't see you in the playoffs again,
Starting point is 00:24:38 you're out of mind and we just continue to slander him for that. Like, he's not even on this bracket, which is crazy. So I agree with you. I just don't know if I see him having like, I guess you know what plus Luke is going to be hurt. People probably will push that now. I'm thinking about it. You're right. Whether it be smart or not, people probably will push that. But yeah, so I'm, yeah, I'm going ahead. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And it definitely has more pressure than Bam out of bio. Next one. Brandon Ingram versus Brandon Miller. which second option Miller
Starting point is 00:25:07 Battle of the Branden's What the hell That's the second option for branding game is really the first option to score for sure Brandon Miller having it up and down season battling through injuries
Starting point is 00:25:17 I say up and down I mean efficiency wise overall everybody's playing well on that roster one of the most efficient starting lineups in the NBA I think actually is the most efficient starting lineup in the NBA
Starting point is 00:25:25 from that rating he's a big part of that the scoring efficiency hasn't been there but like the eye test is better for him I think he plays a very key role on that team. They kind of do go as far as he goes in a playoff setting with him being able to to be that Swiss Army knife scoring wing that can attack smaller guys, blow by big guys.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Very important role when we know what La Mello ball halfboard scoring looks like. A ton on his shoulders. Then Ingram, if he's not dropping 30, I don't know what chance they have in the playoffs with how they're playing right now. Yeah, I think it's easily Brandon Ingram. For Brandon Miller, all everyone just wanted to see from him is just simply health. Because I feel like a lot of people based off his rookie year, although it was like inefficient, and everyone knew that the ability and the talent was there.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And all that was needed for him when it comes to the Charlotte Horn's basketball, just staying healthy. And it's everything that everyone pretty much like imagined to be. As for Brandon Ingram, this team is in an entirely different situation. You don't have the little ball on your team. You don't have the Connoeple on your team. But they're supposed to be both of those things combined into one end over for this team to succeed. So with that, when it comes to Brandon Ingram in mind, yeah, he has like so much pressure.
Starting point is 00:26:28 He's the new guy. He's supposed to be the guy who was shouldering the world of this offense. he's supposed to be one of the better playmakers, one of the better shooters. Like, he's supposed to teach everything for this team damn near, offensively speaking. Yeah, with the way Scott he's been shooting,
Starting point is 00:26:40 Ingram has so much burden. But I do, Ingram has more burden to his team's success right now, I think. But I do think that nobody cares about the Raptors in this moment. So if they go out in the first round, nobody will give a shit.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It would not be an indictment on Brandon Ingram, really at all. Like, he's kind of just, he's Brandon Ingram, you know, no one's really expecting him to come out, light the world on fire. If he plays like Brandon Ingram, and they lose in the swift, six games, so be it.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Miller, on the other hand, if the Charlotte Hornets don't keep up the record, the pace they're at, they lose in the playing tournament, no, they don't get the top six, and he stinks it up, shoots some tour dates. Someone like Donovan's going to remember. You know how. Something like he's going to remember.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Are these games not meaningful? What are we playing for? It means some. You're right. Okay. If it means something, then it means something. Because to your point, you said that Brandon Ingram, all we care about is hell, I mean, Red and Miller, all we care about is staying health We know what you are outside of that.
Starting point is 00:27:33 We know the talent you have. We've got to see it come together. Give yourself a chance of being healthy. I got more questions than health. I don't know for sure how good he is. I don't know for sure if he's ready to take on such a scoring load in the half court with lamella ball sufficiencies. I don't know for sure that he's ready to be an elite score one day. I would like to see it in this playoff run.
Starting point is 00:27:52 This is the closest matchup, I think, on the board, because for obviously a combination of all the reason that you guys said of, like, one, but anybody cares about Brandon Negrim like that and then two and then two like Brandon Brandon Miller the Hornets even if the Hornets like on this crazy pace if they go out and they lose in the
Starting point is 00:28:15 first round even if they get the 7th seed and they lose to the Celtics in the first round you look at the Hornets you say okay one you lost to a team that everybody thinks is the better team and say shout out to you guys you guys are finally to compliment you had a nice run everything's fine I think
Starting point is 00:28:31 Brandon Miller might get it only because he does have the potential for slander more than Brandon Ingram. And for Brandon Ingram, them checks of cash. Fair, fair. The contract just started this year. At the end of it, he has a player option.
Starting point is 00:28:48 He doesn't have to worry about anything for two more years. He doesn't have a consequential game on his schedule for 700 days. That's a crazy thoughts. He's fine. I think Brandon Miller wins this. And I also think the Hornets are capable of with a good showing,
Starting point is 00:29:04 even if they lose the first round with a good showing that inspires belief to their next coming year and the leap that they can carry forward after this second half of the year, they have all the path in the world to be the team that we look at and say next year, you're going to be one of the best teams in your conference. So that implies a certain amount of pressure to me in a positive way. Oh my God. They damn near have the same exact record.
Starting point is 00:29:24 They have fallen off a fucking cliff to Toronto Raptors. That's fucking crazy. They've been so bad. Yeah. And even Raptors fans are like turning on the team. And you know Raptors fans will write and die for Toronto. They'll believe in anything they see on the court. I'm seeing a lot of Raptors fans start to feel a little,
Starting point is 00:29:37 are we building around the right guys? Yeah. I mean, I understand it. I feel like I can agree with this simply because like when it comes to Brandon Ingram, like we already know what he is. His MBA career is already written. And Brandon Miller is just like, there can easily be a world in where he comes into the play in and has,
Starting point is 00:29:53 and also the playoff and has like a stellar first round. And can like, we can kind of shift the overall conversation view on him when it comes to young and up becoming players. Whenever anyone talks about that, Brandon Miller is usually not in like the top line of that conversation. He's just always like a salute to you guy just because we're seeing him
Starting point is 00:30:10 fully like for the first time get under his feet this season. Yeah, he's promising and good but he is one of the young guys in the NBA. Okay. Just one of the guys. So I can understand. I can understand Brandon Miller or Ringham. Yeah. Okay, interesting one here. Round three the first round. Cade Cunningham
Starting point is 00:30:26 versus Donovan Mitchell. I think D. Mitch. Really, I was thinking it was going to be obviously Cade, but D. Mitch has a little sparky argument. I'm not going to run. This is damn near a tie. Yeah. My first thought was obviously Cade, but hold on,
Starting point is 00:30:40 DeMitch, maybe low key. You were the inverse. You think it's D. Mitch. Yeah. I think three weeks ago, Ty, maybe Cade. Collapse alone. Okay, so the injury is so crazy
Starting point is 00:30:51 that we got to give a pass and be like, is what it is? Yeah, like, if they, now, of, I think a first round exit for the Pistons, might be more explainable than like a second round one because it's like, oh, he barely had any time to come back. He has the collapse alone, right? Obviously, things are going to be off. Of course, you went out early. But if he comes out and shows that he's capable of playing and then they go out in the second round, it's like, oh, you guys really were just fraud. I think that that's different. Is he expected to come back before the first round or like midway through? Like, is it, is there any
Starting point is 00:31:22 clarity at all? I'm still not, not sure. Whenever he's supposed to come back. For Dee Mitch, I think that the Cavs season is, one, it was in turn, this entire Cavs tenure, after they lose to the Knicks in round one a couple years ago, turmoil the entire time. And just constant conversation about, is this team going to stay together? Is this team going to blow it up? And there's- He's expected to come back for the first round. Before it?
Starting point is 00:31:52 For the first round. For the first round. Yeah. So, yeah, that's like, that's going to be kind of crazy of having a collapse loan, missing all this and then boom, you get thrown into playoff basketball. Granted, you're probably going to be playing a bad team, so you'll have an opportunity to get your legs under you. But DeMitch is also in that class with Jalen Brunson,
Starting point is 00:32:09 where people are, you know, talking about, hey, if not now, then when, you guys have these small guards. Like, there's been conversations around DeMitch's playoff friends the last two years about his performance and the style of play that he does. I think there's a lot on the Donovan Mitchell conversation that rides with this playoff run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:30 The Cavs are a more precarious roster situation than the pistons. If the pistons come out and fall in their face, it'll be disappointing for someone that's been a wire-to-wire number one seat all year in your conference. That's supposed to be like ready to win. But we have that baked an idea of we all know young team never been in before. That gives you an out. We know they're lacking shooting and playmaking and all this stuff that's like generalizations that maybe don't always show on the court because they're so good still despite it.
Starting point is 00:32:54 But we know in our heads when come playoff time, we all have that worry that those parts of their roster will be. good enough. So that gives you an out. We don't necessarily got to blame it on Cade. The Caz fail. It's just like, oh shit, we got to blow this bitch up. Yeah. Yeah. Just really Jared Allen, goodbye. I guess hard and stays, but like, you know, feel great about it. Like, does DeMitch say maybe I need to go somewhere else? Like, we really don't know what the fallout will be if they get blown out in the first round. Yeah, I agree. I think that's why maybe I'll ultimately land on the, I'll land on the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Because DeMitch, it's not crazy to say that, you know, he may not be on this roster in like two years from now or something like that. Like, that's how, series every single year for the Cleveland Cavaliers is. Right. They literally just chose up on Donovan Mitchell over Darius Garland a couple of weeks ago. And now James Harden's on this roster to actually make serious moves in the playoffs, which just means elevating being better than where you were like last year. So I think it's probably.
Starting point is 00:33:47 That's a good point. We're talking a lot about like post-playoff conversations, like results-based outcomes. Just on the floor, you know James Hardin's going to have a bad game. That puts way more pressure on you to score and hit every single shot. What? I'm taking damage. Does it pour pressure on you?
Starting point is 00:34:03 Or it doesn't give you out because we'll just lander James Harden. Maybe we'll ignore Donovan Mitchell's part of it. To accomplish your goal, you have to do something. I do think on the court, Kate is more on the shoulders. Like, they really need him to do a lot. But nothing's going to happen from it.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So it really, the injury, your first point to start this conversation, the injury kind of gives Kay the pass now that not even a pass in any type of, like, negative way, but like literally you can't judge it too hard coming off a collapse lung. Yeah. So it should be Cade, I think.
Starting point is 00:34:31 But we'll go, DeMitch, just to keep the conversation interesting. You're right. You're right. It should be Cade, but he's lucky. Not lucky that he has a collapse lung. You're lucky, buddy.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You're off the hook. People are putting him in scary conversations just four or five weeks ago. Kate is on a ventilator. He's like, you're lucky, man. I'm just banging on the door. I wanted to get these narratives off.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I was going to slander your house and you shoot tornadoes again. Deeran Fox versus Devin Booker Oh, this is mad easy Diern Fox first option on a team that is going to be in the playoffs versus D'eron,
Starting point is 00:35:06 I say D'RFox, Devin Booker is the first option on the team. D'eron Fox's second option on the team that has way higher aspirations but he's not the guy they put the ball on a lot of people's hands to try to make sure no one guy can sink the ship
Starting point is 00:35:16 less on his play on a basketball perspective but team has way more to prove what does that do? I think this one's easy. I think it's, Fox. Easily.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Easily. I think from me. I agree. Me too. That's a sweep. Dehran Fox wins. Devin Booker's kind of is a maid guy, right?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Like, we just know, when the suns get to the playoffs, like it's cute, but we're not expecting them to beat the two-seed spurs or the one-seat thunder. Like, it is what it is. They've perpetually been the seventh seed for like seven months, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:45 No expectation for y'all at all. And Devin Fox has not won but two of his replacements on the team at this moment. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Every playoff run, Deer and Fox is going to have to be. not play for his job. Show why he's necessary.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Yeah, show why. Because it's not his faltering thing, but like you said, they have plans for those guys to take the reins eventually. So, like, show that as they elevate, you can continue to provide value next to them. Because everyone talks about it
Starting point is 00:36:11 from the second they drafted Dylan Harper after training for Dier and Fox a few months prior, it was, oh, okay, so eventually two years from now, we're going to trade him for a wing and make our team make sense when Dylan Harper's ready to be a superstar. How long can you make that process wait? How long can you stay on this team
Starting point is 00:36:24 by proving that they need both of you? Yeah. Yeah. So DM Fox, you better hoop, man. You better not got shots. You also paid, though, no matter what, you're making $50 to $60 million the next four years. That's true. So either way, really the pressure is on the spurs for you to play well so if it doesn't look crazy. They have all these cards. You are paid regardless. So shit is sweet regardless. Yeah, well, oh, they trade you to another team that you make $60 million to them. The horror. And you get to take more touches, get more shots, get more points, get another payday after that. The horror.
Starting point is 00:36:56 gosh. This one is interesting. Keep in mind what we said about Kate earlier and how the collapsed lung of it all puts a little bit less pressure on him. So now, Jalen Dern versus Evan Mowley. Okay, so on Jalen Duren fronts, I almost don't want to put any pressure on him through
Starting point is 00:37:14 because this is your first year as an all-star. You just made it on the scenes. It's your first time putting it all together really and establishing yourself as one of the better players, better centers in the league. Evan Mobley, man. We've been waiting for a minute.
Starting point is 00:37:28 When is it going to like happen? Is it ever going to happen? People are clowning for averaging 18 and 8. I've never seen anybody be clown for being just straight up good.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah. That's the thing. Like people hate you, right? And that's the thing. I think people are doing him. He's just good, never great. So be it.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I don't think there's much pressure on him at all. I think the expectations are gone and there's not going to be hype or slander. He's just Evan Mobley. Actually, they won't be slander. I know the internet. But, you know, he kind of is Evan Mobley.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Mowley. Jaylen Duren's about making all the NBA team. He's gonna get a Super Max this over. K's not 100%. They haven't lost a step without him. They've been destroying everybody of Jenkins and Duren hoops.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You better earn that Super Max beta. You better show me you're still that guy at the playoffs. It's Jalen Duren easily to me. Nah, can't go. If I see Evan Mowgli have 15 and 7 out there, I'm saying something. Well, you're beating a dead horse. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:20 He's going to have 15 and 7. Get used to it. We're going to beat this horse into a blitz. Boom, boom, boom. We're there. Yeah, I think the Dern. That was kind of crazy. I think the Dern point is real and it's fair.
Starting point is 00:38:35 It might be a year early. Because I think the fact that like that the contract hasn't, you know, that it hasn't started. It isn't official. It's not, it's not right there and so accessible for people to see and put right up next to your stats. If you do have a bad series, that's why I think next year, that's, that's going to be something. That's the thing, though. We know they're about to sign a contract.
Starting point is 00:38:57 People are already saying, this is how dynasties get fucked up. You're about to give the wrong guy who's Supermax. It's pending. And people, as soon as he plays poorly and he gets that money regardless, people are getting ready to say,
Starting point is 00:39:07 oh, look what you're about to do. I understand, but it's not like they're giving him the, we can talk about it. They're not giving him the contract until after the year. So I feel like he has, if, if, just in a comparison versus Evan Mobley,
Starting point is 00:39:20 he has just a little bit more leeway to that where Evan Mobley. Evan Mobley is officially left 18-8 talks, 19 and 9. That's hilarious. I do think Evan Mobley is set up to where every year of his career, every year that the Cavs are in contention, if you are not scoring 24,
Starting point is 00:39:40 you will get slandered into oblivion. Yeah. But he has James Hardin and Donovan Mitchell on his team. Like how much can you really want him to score 24 consistently when there's those two guys taking all those shots? The thing is, like, yeah, you have James Hardin and Donovan Mitchell on your team. But also, while having those two guys in the team who are, like, obviously, dominating the ball, it shouldn't still feel like you are invisible offensively at times.
Starting point is 00:40:02 It shouldn't still feel like you're just one of the guys out there just running around authentically at time. It's not a defensive conversation. Obviously, he's one of the best players on a planet when it comes to that front. But I think if he has a bad series and is inefficient and can, like, go go sometimes, like, there's going to be a real conversation where people are thinking, at least cast hands specifically are thinking, like, should we be? trade this guy like what if you have an opportunity like get someone like y'all should we roll that
Starting point is 00:40:28 dice? Oh well yeah that's different. Yeah. Yeah. You know, if he has a bad series like if he has a bad series, you have no, you have no chance at winning at all. If he has a good series, you could make it as far as like the fucking conference finals for all I care. We should also look at who are they going to play in the first round.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It's going to be the Hawks. They could lose that series. There's a real war. If they, they lose the Hawks in the first round. Look at the Hawks. Killing errors, bro. Look at us. They could lose.
Starting point is 00:40:58 If they lose to the Hawks in the first round. They could lose. It's not a shoeing. It's a competition. Yeah, I mean, it's not. The Hawks are playing fantastic. Minimum six games. That series.
Starting point is 00:41:11 You're saying go six games? I think minimum six games right now. I think there's a good chance. There's a good chance to get the fuck out of them. There's a good chance to cast the dogs beat the out of them. But they are the cast. So obviously, like, they're probably, the cats probably can't sweep anybody.
Starting point is 00:41:24 They're too insist on the wing. So the Hawks don't get a game, maybe too, like you're saying. It's hard to sweep somebody now. Yeah, it's tough. Like, especially when you don't have, like, super strong defensive infrastructure. Like on the wings, like I said, you're playing two small guards.
Starting point is 00:41:35 It's hard to sweep somebody. So I don't think that's going to happen. I won't lose sleep picking the calves right now, I think. I wouldn't, I wouldn't lose sleep picking them either. But if you asked me in, we're 12 days away, you asked me in 10 days. Maybe I'll change it on mine. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I'm just not getting. deep sleep picking the calves. That's it. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sleeping. I'm not going into like hybridation with the calves against anybody. They're too inconsistent and too flawed for me to feel that strong about it.
Starting point is 00:42:01 But if they're, I would need a little bit different of an opponent in the Hawks who I just struggle to see translate to a playoff environment. I will say though. Jalen Johnson comes out here and Jalen Johnson is scoring 32. I would like that in the playoffs and just destroys the cab. And remotely we'll put this at your. Yeah, they're selling the whole fucking team at that point, bro. It would be awesome to see that.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'm not going to lie. Like, I do hope that Hawks can beat them. Like, I would love to see a Jalen Johnson ascension and just fucking dog them left and right. It'd be amazing. This is what the Hawks do, man. We kill cores, bro. This is what we do. Who your own?
Starting point is 00:42:34 We make teams. Yeah, who the last four you, you. Trey Young's? Trey. Yeah. No, we beat the Sixers that, like, was it, 2021. That's five years. This is what we do.
Starting point is 00:42:46 We beat cores. Every five years we kill course. Twice a decade. All right. Mowbly. Franz Wagner versus Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson by a mile, right? Brunson.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Brunson is in a unique spot. He's one of the most proven players in the NBA, but due to the nature of his size, his role and his looming desire for a payday, he has continued to prove himself every single year despite being incredibly proven. I'm tired of seeing the Becky Hammond clip. I'm tired of seeing it.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Jalen has to go out every single year and drop 40 every single game. Yeah. I'm tired. And like so much is writing on this playoff run for him. Like he gets these big, paydays because he's the most Teflon player performer in the NBA, the second he stops being that.
Starting point is 00:43:27 The second he stops being that. Amen. Chick collapses real fast. Yeah, exactly. He goes from being around top 10 talks to, okay, now people are looking at him as a what, top 15, 17 player. And for small guards like him, shit goes bad real quick, right. Now that I'm thinking about it, Brunson has like the biggest potential for disaster in this playoff run.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Like, what if they lose? Let's not even say it's the first round. Let's say they get past the first round. We pull up their matchup. And they get to the second round. They face a good defense. What happens if he averages 23 points for game on 52% true shooting and has a below average scoring game like you've seen many first options do?
Starting point is 00:44:05 What happens then? What happens then? What happens then? We need to win the finals this year. What happens then? Man, you know what happens. He's in those Trey Young-John-Maron combos, man. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:44:15 No, he is not. Trey-young. We don't have to start those conversations. So I see your point. We got to choose a different guard. Those guys are in the depths of hell. It's over. He's in that trajectory. No, he's not. No, he's not. No, he is not. All right. Okay. Okay. But. But. There's a middle ground here I'm talking about, yo, is this the guy we should be building around?
Starting point is 00:44:37 I know your point. Yeah, yeah. Yes, even then, I think he can like, if he has a bad, if he has a bad playoff run, I think his standing for a lot of people will go down. I think if he has a bad run,
Starting point is 00:44:53 I think the number one thing that you're going to hear going into the offseason is, one, Kate is the best point guard in the east. And Kate has that. and Kate is better. You will, you will hear that. I think that the Knicks internally, I think that the Knicks internally need to understand that at that point like, okay, this experiment, we can't win with Kat and Brunson, who's going to leave? It's not going to be Brunson. Brunson is going to get at least another opportunity where you can have a playoff level
Starting point is 00:45:21 roster around him and you're still going to build around him. So I don't think he's on that level of, is this the guy that should even be the face of our franchise like the other two? He's here And he's going to stay, but the way that people talk about him is going to be, is going to be different. He won't be in level those two guys for Amigratory. I agree with you. Those guys are so far gone. He will be honest. Should this guy be the face-star franchise, though?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Like, that's a different question. That isn't so dramatic, I think, that like, can this small guard be the one option? We thought he could because he had some crazy playoff performances and all do all props to him, wasn't a fluke. He did two years in a row. He was insane for that archetype for what was needed from him in those series. Can't take that away from him? If he stopped being able to do that because the tires are getting a little, little bald
Starting point is 00:46:00 at the bottom now as he gets up there in age for a small guard, you do have to think about that. You do have to think about, like, can he be the guy that we feel good about? Or do we have to maybe blow his whole thing up eventually? And maybe it's not next year. You give it one more year without cat or whatever pivot you have. But in the back of your head, you know that, like, this is the last pivot. Otherwise, we have to really look at the guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And what makes everything so interesting, too, is I don't think he's eligible for a contract extension this summer, but it's, I think it's next summer. Yeah. And, of course, like, this is the most, these next few years are going to be the most important two years of his fucking life right now. And I think for a small guard, he's what, 29 years old right now as he speak? God damn.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Bro, there's only could have not even more opportunity. For a small guard. God, dang. He's not wrong. For a small guard that's not fast at that. There's only so much more time of that he's going to be at the peak of his powers. Like, shit goes back bad really fucking ass. And the peak
Starting point is 00:46:54 his powers, he was a dog shit defender, so there's no margin for error. You need to be the best score in the playoffs to return value. you. Yeah. 29 is ancient. 29 is you're knocking on that door. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:05 He's coming up real quick for him. So I think there's a lot of pressure on him for these next two years. I don't think he's going to get that big payday. If I was to put a prediction, I wouldn't, if I was the next, I wouldn't, if I was the next, I wouldn't,
Starting point is 00:47:16 give him a fucking five-year contract. That just doesn't sound smart. And I don't even, I'm not predicting he falls off as a score in the playoffs. He can keep doing that. Yeah. I think the team is so clearly flawed and so clearly headed towards a pivot in the summer to make another trade
Starting point is 00:47:27 to try to get on top, whether it be cat or whatever. and I think when you're this far into going all in, pivots never work. These teams end up more often than not within a couple of years. And I don't think it'll make sense to give him that big contract.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I think it might make more sense to let somebody else do it. That clock is ticking. And it's not just clicking on Brunton. It's ticking on the entire team. And yeah, I don't see this window being open for four to five more years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:52 That feels very wishful to me. Yeah. And he'll get another big contract. Somebody else will pay him, but it won't be like the most money he could possibly get because I just don't see this next era aging quite well enough.
Starting point is 00:48:01 We gotta. We gotta see. I think. Him and Cooper Flag. Kill it in three years. Nah, man. Go back home. That'll be,
Starting point is 00:48:10 that would be insane. That would be insane. Kill me now. Kill me now. It's gonna be sick. I'm not gonna lie. That genuinely hurt. Did you see it?
Starting point is 00:48:20 You have that. That actually hurt. That would be so fucking wrong. Third option, Jaylen Brunson, with Cooper Flag and Caleb Wilson. They're gonna kill it. That's tough right there. Tough as far.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Like I said, the number one convos, that's, that's where things get shaken for me. But he could be the three next to Cooper flat. Hell yeah, you can. Yeah. Because he'll be, I thought he'll be old. He'll be 33. He'll be a little like, snow what we should expect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Go be Jason Terry on steroids for a championship caliber team in the Mavergian uniform. Yeah, man. It'll be tough. Yeah, man. We're eating at this one. 2011 Jason kid. Go be that. Yeah, go be that.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Now you've got to learn of the past and pivot a little bit. Play defense. A little bit. At 33. But we can figure something now. Google flags, a generational defender maybe. Honestly, outside of, like, this is really not even fair to Brunson. Like, yeah, he has a lot of pressure on him.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But really, this is just the whole entire Knicks roster, if I'm being honest with you, but outside of maybe like OG and a nobody who I don't see it too many people question. This conversation is ridiculous. McCall Bridges, hell of pressure on you. Mike Brown, what are you here for, bro? This is crazy. This is crazy. Carr Anthony Towns, brother.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Have you found your role yet? This is a cruel conversation. He scores nothing but 40 in the playoffs. And now we're like, yeah, go be the third. option in Dallas in four years. Yeah, four years. That's not an indictment on anything. It's not crazy to see that.
Starting point is 00:49:37 We traveled half a decade. I'm just telling you the future and what you should expect as your age gracefully. Yeah. Into being an elder fan. In conclusion, there's a lot of pressure on Jaylor Brunswick. Yes. Yes. We did the outline the rest of his career.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Because if you don't average 40, these are the conversations we're going to have. I'm telling you the future. Listen to me. I see this time. I got to stop. I know some shit. It's going to get spooky quick. I've seen these patterns before.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Is that Dr. Strange meme? I know the one outcome. That don't go pre-feet. Jaylon Brown for Jamal Murray. Jayden Brown. Jayden Brown easy. Your first option hoops now. This is your team.
Starting point is 00:50:21 You're the MVP, right? You're the MVP. Show me. Your first team, right? This is what you wanted, huh? Go ahead. Go drop thirons. party then go do that you said that i just thought about that video of that one guy from early tictock
Starting point is 00:50:35 days said remember hell like i got to get in the mode so this is what y'all want for me to not give a fuck yeah no i really don't give a fuck what is the context of this it was like you don't remember that was a big dude in the vest no i don't remember it was this like facebook post generic just like musing of relatable quotes uh okay and he's in front of the camera it's like a real like I don't even know how to use the right verb to describe this type of content So is one of those, okay Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:05 So this is what y'all wanted For me to not give a fuck Now I really don't give a fuck That's Jim Brown by the way 100% On ironically that's the ethos he embodies That type of I mean not start frying Jim Bradson
Starting point is 00:51:18 Jason Tatum versus Joel Mede Both in a less than 100% state For different reasons Mbid because Tatum's PR is through the roof right now Come on man But what if he could His PR's through the roof
Starting point is 00:51:30 But if he comes back He tore his Achilles Not a year Of course it's understandable It's all of this is understandable There's always context Do you think that's gonna stop Jason Tatum haters
Starting point is 00:51:38 From saying ah You came back so fast Just to shit your pants And make your team lose That'll be better without you Like I can imagine it all Regardless of if it's fair or not I mean I can imagine too
Starting point is 00:51:48 It's gonna be funny But like What is it this guy right here Yes is that guy I remember him With the Portramoamau blur Yeah I remember him The Atlanta fits
Starting point is 00:51:58 Yeah, it's It's gonna be funny To get Jason Tatum jokes off But the Embed stuff just feels It feels evergreen You think it beats like past pressure though Like it's just like no one take what we can get It absolutely cannot be Embed
Starting point is 00:52:14 Can't really get in bead What does he have pressure to do? Dude, the style that's about win the finals And like they need Disney And they play well to win the finals If Embed comes out and cooks It's gravy It feels like his story is written
Starting point is 00:52:25 And everyone just enjoying him while he's here Where are they playing in the Are they in the playing right? now? No, they're going to play right now the Knicks. They'll succeed. Need that. Need that. It's easily Tatum, I think. Yeah. Julius Randolph versus Carl and he Towns.
Starting point is 00:52:38 These two are intrinsically linked for the rest of time. Yeah. I think it's going to be Kat. Right now, I think the Timberwell's already know, like, Cat, Julius Randall is just our pivot and he's someone who's like a very good placeholder for whoever we end up attaining next at that four spot.
Starting point is 00:52:56 For Kat, you're not a placeholder. You are you're supposed to be taking this as a promise land. It's not an easy, it's an easy conversation. Yeah, everything we said about Jaylon Brunton applies tenfold to cat.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah. Literally, their owner said before the season started, we need to win a championship this year. If they don't, both the stars have targets on their forehead.
Starting point is 00:53:16 That's true. Yeah, third. Somebody's gonna, and somebody who went the trigger pulled in his Bobby Cat. Yeah. Big cat's home. Big cat's home.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Yeah, third. Yes, sir. Yeah, sir. Kevin DeRand versus Kauai Leonard. Another good matchup. These are, these are random. they gave us amazing matchups.
Starting point is 00:53:32 They did. Kevin DeW. That next one, what a crazy random matchup. I know. One of the odds. Completely randomized. Katie versus Kauai is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I don't think anyone can have real pressure on Kauai because it's like, or KD really. Well, Katie, I can understand it because he'll get slandered because the KD files happens. Yeah. He's an easy target. But neither one of them have really much to lose in terms of slander. Well, this is, I think it's,
Starting point is 00:53:56 I think it's more so for KD because clearly like, especially after the KD. files could this be another situation where a team is moving on from you kind of kind of quickly like this whole thing has gone sour if they go out if they go outside kd goes outside the double teams really do work and that that's something that that you can use at this point now he's already 37 when the next team in that inevitably inevitably happens are you going to look at kady and be like do we want kevin around on our team yeah you know the you know like i i feel like there's more of that for KD.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Then Kauai. The pressure is, so this won't be fair because they have no point guards. They lost Stephen Adams. It's really not his fault. They're bad, right?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Not fair at all. Nevertheless, it will be said that he ruined two young teams that had good young cores that were making playoff pushes. Then you come in and shit falls apart real fast. Part of it's your fault on the court.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Part of it's your fault in the locker room. Whatever it may be, it will be said that you killed two straight teams. So why should you get a third opportunity? Yeah, man. The trail has begun when it comes to you and the vibes that come after you. once you come into an organization.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yeah. And if the clip is losing the first round, like, okay, same thing they've done in the last four or five years, great, whatever. Yeah. Who cares? Con Conepple versus Lamello ball.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Lamello? I might be con, actually. I disagree. We hype a con. Khan's a rookie, like, he's fine. Yeah, we know Khan is better and we are not what we know. We think Khan is better
Starting point is 00:55:19 and we hype him up for all these reasons. I don't know what the general public does, though. General public, he's a rookie. And I think most people are more reserved on their con glaze than we are. So for us, it'll be important to see him
Starting point is 00:55:29 more than Lamello looks. We have more expectations of him, right? Lamello ball is Lamello ball. The attention that comes to that name, the attention that comes with the up and down play style, the flashiness, how he's having a great playmaking second half of the season,
Starting point is 00:55:42 now he's gone healthy. They really do go as far as his half-course scoring takes him, I think. There's a almost, if they lose in the first round, I think I can almost guarantee it'll be because teens let him score and he doesn't score well enough.
Starting point is 00:55:57 For the sake of this, like, a responsibility, like measurement, then I can, I understand that. But I feel like when it comes to La Mello Ball this season, I feel like a lot of expectations have been tempered with him and people understand, like, he's just never going to be that level of score and that is just like a shoe win. As for Khan, like he's leading of the league and three point shooting, three point makes as a fucking rookie. And people, people like us, me, like I called him like a top, what, 30 offensive player or something like that and he has all the tools he has the skills so we do think he's a in his own right in his own regard like a generation rookie when he comes like just how well he's
Starting point is 00:56:35 playing day one and so i feel like there's probably more pressure on him but i can see a lot of the media figures talking about lamell so i think it's lemell and it's not particularly close just because everything i said like con does everybody on the team is important the starting line up is clicking so well they all have a role to play right musa diabate is a lot of pressure if he doesn't play well and gets beat up by big then they're cooked. If Miles Bridges shoots him out of the game because he sucks, they're cooked. Like, everybody has pressure on their shoulders on his team.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Le Mello ball will, fair or unfair, take the brunt of that. Yeah, this is the first time that Mello, that Lamello has been... The ability to play winning basketball to the playoffs. Yeah, has had that, like, moniker of people actually thinking that.
Starting point is 00:57:20 And so if they go out and he plays bad, and it's like, oh, all this was just a lot. Yoker's first LeBron. Yokic. What the fuck? Is there any pressure on LeBron? Pressure on LeBron. No, Luca, no.
Starting point is 00:57:31 You're 83 of this career. You know what? It is Bronn. It actually is Bronn on the court. It's like easily Bronn. He can't do these things, but he has to do him regardless. And that's so fucking mean and so much pressure that he has because he's LeBron James. Regardless if they, he shouldn't have any pressure.
Starting point is 00:57:47 If they go out and get beat up, it's going to look at LeBron, getting embarrassed, going out, sad. It's quite rude, actually. Ron, you're going to be on a new team. If y'all don't make this run, it's, it's yoke, it's yoke. I saw, I forgot who was listening to you. I think it might have been Zach Lowe or maybe was Bill Simmons who said this. But if you look at everybody across NBA history that has multiple MVP's, almost all of them besides Moses and Malone, get multiple championships.
Starting point is 00:58:10 So the point was that like, listen, man, this Yokkich and Yonis era, the windows and their teams, clock's ticking. Thunder is already here, spurs around the corner. Yeah. Every year you need to win a championship. If you're at this level of all-time great like Yolkich, so he might win this bracket. Yeah, I think it's 100% Yokids right now. Like this is the first time in a couple of the seasons where, yo, Yokits, people are saying that you are no longer, or at least it's up for grabs.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Your title of the best player in the world, it's up for grabs. People can easily call Shea the best friend of the world. I think I probably said just a couple weeks ago, people can have very fair and valid conversations about Wembe being the best friend in the world. Your team and all with all the things that's happened, it's finally slowly starting to come together when it comes to health and all that. What else do you need? Yeah, they've won seven straight games. They're getting healthy at the right time. No reason you shouldn't win the championship.
Starting point is 00:58:57 The Lakers are out the picture. You're another third best team in your conference easily, set in stone. You have all the ability to win a championship this year. Yeah. If you don't do it, she's the greatest of all time. Palo Van Carver's Paul George. Palo. Who Paul George is playing well post suspension.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yo, Paulo, man. What conversations are we having? The randomizer thinks of you like this? I will say Paul George is playing really well post-sust suspension. He takes that time away. kind of looks a little clippers ball droor just lately man come on they might beat the Knicks and they do
Starting point is 00:59:29 they need him first of all my dream scenarios is beating the 60s in the first round and beating the Celtics in the second round it would be that's a lot of dip your chips crackin in half your chips cracked in half why too much dip
Starting point is 00:59:46 have you seen the Celtics I got the Tostito scoop ah you're built for it built for it Tostito scoop Most useless chips ever, no it's not Brother, you're not a real dipper
Starting point is 01:00:00 Those are, bro, maybe I dip too much I maybe have too much like Faith and how strong the quality of chips You just get whatever Too much space Structural integrity Yeah, how If you claim yourself as that
Starting point is 01:00:11 Let's see how much you really dip in I'm gonna cover the whole Chishy Yeah, fuck ratios He's just getting chipped And putting them in a dip He's an inefficient dipper You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:00:21 Don't claim yourself If you can't handle the day. I should be able to do whatever the fuck I want with you. And I'm getting the most out of my chip. That's my system. Fuck that. That's my system. That's my culture.
Starting point is 01:00:32 You don't know anything about that. Fraudulent chip. No. He's scooping up fucking cold butter. You should be able to handle it. Yes, Palo van Carol. We went through all this up and down season of his. March came around.
Starting point is 01:00:43 He was killing it. He said, okay, you're looking like you're back on track to being what we thought you could be. I chose to believe you that you're figuring some stuff out because your comments, align what I saw on the court. since then, since I chose to believe in you and still say you're a top 25 offensive player in this league, you've gone back to being absolutely garbage.
Starting point is 01:01:00 It's been like two short weeks of you shooting worse than tour dates. You are shooting biblical proverbs. It is crazy. It is insane. You are absolutely horrible. 319 looks. He's shooting inspirational quote captions.
Starting point is 01:01:14 It's horrible. You better have another playoff series where you randomly turn it to Kevin Durant from mid-range. Otherwise, it's looking fucking spooky for you in the entire organization. That's so good. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Palataka wins. I'm trapped in to be so long. He heard you say he's like, is not like looking anymore? I can go back to be me. That's funny. I'm so sick of the roller coaster. Scotty Barnes for Shangoon.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Shangoon, I think. We traded for Kevin Durant. We looked at you as like the face of our organization. When it comes to Scotty, it's like, someone's with Brandon Ingram was like, yeah, bro, like, we know what you are. If you don't care enough about the, Raptors. It kind of is what it is that these guys are going to duck any slander they maybe
Starting point is 01:01:56 should get. It doesn't really matter versus Shengun like Kevin Durant has drawn so much attention to himself for all the wrong reasons. You're going to die by proxy of that. You're going to catch a bullet ricochet. And now you're not a max player. Now you're overrated. It shouldn't be an all-star. It's what it is. Yeah. Sorry, Schengen. Shea versus Stefan Castle. This is tough. It's actually unironically like not easy. Shea obviously has expectations of being the best player in the world. But like we know he's going to be fine. So there's not that much pressure because we have faith in him. Obviously, if you were to lose in the first round, like, have calamity, it would be disastrous for his PR.
Starting point is 01:02:29 But that's not, like, realistically around enough that we have, like, that there's pressure to lose that way, you know? Whereas the Stefan Castle, like, you're making this big pivot. You're making this rise in your importance on the team. The playmaking is taking a leap. Yeah. I'm saying it all year. These playoff defenses are going to put centers on you. They're going to sag off. They're going to make the offense get creative around making you beat them as a shooter. What are you prepared to do about it? Are you ready to have enough counters to make up for it? Or is things going to get spooky real fast when smart defenses come around?
Starting point is 01:02:59 Wait, you had a very, like, visceral reaction. Who are you saying? It's easily, Shea. I'm not about to say a role player at the end of the day. It has less pressure than the best in the world. But he's the best in the world. And do you think there's any chance they lose in the first round or any chance that he goes out sad?
Starting point is 01:03:15 No. See, like, you don't feel a lot of pressure for Shea. And, of course, if it goes bad, he has more downside. But that's not really looming. But that's, I feel like that's kind of unfair. Maybe. Because we feel spoiled by Shane. He just does this routinely night in and night out.
Starting point is 01:03:29 And so like with that being said, like by nature, you should have pressure. He just so, he's been so good. He just makes everything look so easy. And it's just like, is it really pressure? It is, though, nonetheless. It is pressure. Like, ultimately he does have a lot of pressure on him. But, okay, so in a disaster scenario where they lose in the first or second round in bad fashion, then yeah, he's cooked.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I feel like what downside really looks like for them is losing in the conference finals or the finals. and because they got the ring last year, if he maybe is slightly worse than expected and they lose, like, all right, you can't win every year. We had to simmer down our dynasty talks and we had to calm down a little bit, but like, all right, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:05 But even with Castle, like, it's his first playoff run, so even if he stinks it up, it's not like... But now you're playing a Wembe's legacy. Now we have this guard log jam and you're not ready. But you're ready next year? Now you're playing with Wemby's legacy.
Starting point is 01:04:17 You said that bad, I gotta be lazy. I gotta be lazy. Yeah, you see what kind of time it is. Should we go Shay? But like noticing Castle, it also has a lot of pressure? No, it's, I don't think it's close at all. I think it's Shay.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah, sure. Like, we compare Shade a fucking Kobe Bryant of Michael Jordan. That's what I think. Or LeBron James, who has more pressure? Multiple times. Yeah, multiple times we've said, we've had Jordan comparisons. Yeah, your Glazer. Disgusting.
Starting point is 01:04:43 You said we play with Wempe's like it. This is really a Shea Wembe match. Yeah, I don't think that's crazy. Castle is such a big part of. this team's outlook. But that's also another reason why it's Shay is because you know, oh, Wembe and the Spurs are are here and like they're also going to be this like Western Conference foe. You have, you are now jockeying for position with Yokic as like the player for this decade. Yokic had the early part of the decade. Now, now we're in 2025 to the end.
Starting point is 01:05:14 You can get these MVP's. You can get the, you can get the titles, all this other stuff. you have to start making pushes to start cementing yourself in the conversation that everybody hasn't been saying, you do have a lot of pressure on you. And for all the reason that you said, offensively, Shea has just as much pressure as nearly anybody in the playoffs to show up, to perform. And the games, there were games last year and moments where he wasn't 100% himself, he wasn't like pure MVP, Shea, I would like to see a start to finish, you know, dominating playoff series, the same way that he's leveled up this year in the regular season, I want to see that translate over and that same level of dominance translate over to the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:05:58 And so I do think that he vastly has more pressure than Stefan Castle. Yeah, yeah, I agree. What are you going to do as a back-to-back MVP? What are you going to do as having one of the two most efficient scoring seasons from a guard that you've seen literally of all time? What are you going to do as like the lone still like superb offensive player on your team who can do things across all fronts? What are you going to do when these double teams are going to come flying your way as they consistently are? We've seen them do it before.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But we only expect to do it again because he set the bar so high. And it's not as easy like to go ahead and do that again. Yeah, I mean, I think Yokish won over LeBron because LeBron's something to improve. But I think Yolkich and Shay both have very little pressure relative to how good they are just because they've already done it. And we already know what they're capable of. So like, whereas I'm trying to think of a comparison. And another top tier player, like if this was, if this was last year and we didn't know Shay could do it.
Starting point is 01:06:50 We've never seen him do before. Then that pressure would be mounting. If it was Yonis's first time, I guess Anthony Edwards still type of in that situation. Wembe is super in that situation because there's still questions about how you will respond at the highest level when your team is good enough to win a championship. And you're not super experienced with those championship defenses yet. That's not really a thing for me. So I have very little questions if you can do it. I don't think the conversation is necessarily who has the most to lose.
Starting point is 01:07:15 it goes poorly, I think with the factor in, like, do you think it'll go poorly and, like, realistically, how, what you're thinking about them with? And I personally, realistically, have very little worry about Chey right now. Well, yeah, but I, I think, I think even that is a little bit, like, I'm not looking at this as like the unknown. Yeah. Of, uh, of the, I think if you set a high standard, you're just maintaining it's a lot of pressure. Yeah, exactly. You have to do that. And what comes with that is just overall expectation for sure, for sure. And I don't have much expectation for someone like stuff like we know there's no expectation for stuff Stefan Kassar
Starting point is 01:07:48 right now there's literally no tape there's not I disagree that's my point that's my point expectations and pressure to me I'm thinking about those very differently no matter what Shane Yokin are the most expectations of anybody but I'm factoring in like what's about to happen and I think you're about to see you just said you have no expectations for Stefan Castle that is going to
Starting point is 01:08:04 change so fucking fast if they lose early because I guarantee if they go out sad his spacing and the pressure defenses put on him will be part of it and that makes it a conversation to me at least. I think, yeah. And I, I can, I understand the, the pressure conversation with Stefan Castle and any of the
Starting point is 01:08:21 guards on San Antonio, all of them are in job and he's right now. Yeah. They all have to show that, hey, I'm the guy that is supposed to be the running mate for Wembe for the next 10 years. I'm, I'm supposed to be, I'm supposed to be there in that position. So whatever Stefan Castle has to do to show that he can be on the floor, whatever Dylan Harper has to do to show, I'm not just a rookie. I'm actually like ready for this moment.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Deere and Fox, we traded for you. You have to show that you can hold off the young guards. Everybody has something to do. I do get it. I do feel like with Shea, the same way that we were joking about with Brunson, it's like, hey, things go by very, very quickly. Look at what's happening with Yokic and the Nuggets. 2023, they win a championship.
Starting point is 01:09:05 And we're like, oh, wow, he's rattling off MVP's the championships. They're about to start rolling in. Boom, we're three years in. Multiple pieces have left. The coach from the team that you won a championship with two and a half years ago got fired going into the playoffs last year. Things changed so quickly. And why we think that the Thunder have the best infrastructure to keep all of that at bay, it comes out of nowhere. And so I think that maximizing your opportunities is very, very important.
Starting point is 01:09:34 And that's why I do think that she has a lot of pressure on them. Yeah, for sure. I don't think it's a wrong answer or anything. I just thought it was closer than we thought. but fully with you, it is, it is closer, you're right. Wemby versus Maxie. You're the MVP, huh?
Starting point is 01:09:48 You're the best at all, you're the best of all the league, huh? You're the greatest of all time, huh? You're not winning MVP under 30 minutes a game, huh? We just said that pretty soon, you're going to be in dirt conversations. You're not there yet, but one good playoff run if you're comparing you to some of the greatest of all time, top 20 or 30 players of all time.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Show me a good playoff run so I can say that without feeling crazy. Yeah, you think that drum is cute. Okay, okay. I see. Second round, we'll fly through this now that we got the initial look for everybody. Anthony Edwards versus Brandon Miller. Easy.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Pretty easy. Donovan Mitchell versus Aaron Fox. Oh, that's actually who he does. That's actually interesting. I think it should be Donald Mitchell, but for some reason he's above criticism and above a role in any of his team's falling apart because he gets buckets.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Yeah. I think it's the Aaron Fox ultimately because nobody really care if they fall apart. It will go to Evan Mobley and it will go to James Hardin. DeMitch is kind of Teflon. Do you think he's above criticism? I don't think he should be. I don't think he's relevant enough.
Starting point is 01:10:39 That's crazy. We're the same amount of criticism that box again. I just do you think. That's making very clear what I just said. I am saying he gets off easy and he shouldn't. But people let him be above criticism. And I'm saying that he gets overrated because of it. This is not me bigger enough Donald Mitchell.
Starting point is 01:10:51 This is me saying he gets glazed and deserves more criticism. Yeah, no. He just had to check. That's all. You have to check. Let me make sure you know I'm not glazing. I'm going the other way. No, I understand 100% what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:11:02 I was, I just, yeah, I think that he gets criticized. Think about it. Think about the last time he got slander like other people of his caliber have. Think about anybody else. as he called a top 10 player and has had multiple years where his team fails completely but gets no smoke
Starting point is 01:11:15 because he empties the clip. I mean, who else? I guess I'm doing the thing. I guess I'm doing the thing. But who else is there? Like, you know, I had plenty of slander for both him and 18 and 8 last year.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I think that that was a did you? A massive disappointment on both of them. You were the one that was telling me, oh, the caps had injuries. I was like, you can't go out in that way. Like, that is, on both of them.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I don't think it was specified to D Mitch though and whereas other teams when they're I do give him a little bit more grace because like now you have to backpack all these guys
Starting point is 01:11:47 because they don't want That's the point he's really good at backpacking when maybe doesn't need a backpack and it comes out where he looks like
Starting point is 01:11:53 the guy that And do what and let 18 and 8 do something I don't know I don't know past the ball set people up
Starting point is 01:11:57 he doesn't he didn't know he did that shit he did that shit he went to the ball hogg of like shit everybody else was pissing down
Starting point is 01:12:06 their life he had that too yeah yeah yeah The line is thin there when you need the backpack where you don't. If I see you pissing, I'm not giving you more water. You don't get the opportunity.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Okay. Okay. Okay. I like that. Poet. I like that out of you. Okay. So who is him or tear?
Starting point is 01:12:25 I'm proud of her. I guess we go dear and your job's on the line. You're paid, but your jobs on the line. Evan Moby or Jalen Brunson. I think Brunson. Brunson. Yeah, that's Brunson. What I said in the first round about if Moby kind of the expectations are just going to kind of be like,
Starting point is 01:12:38 all right, you are who you are. It's enough to get him past Jalen Duren still, but people just don't view him elite anymore, I think. So even though the slander will be there, regardless, it'll be more jokes and it will be like something needs to be done. The pressure's off.
Starting point is 01:12:51 We already know who you are. Yeah, like, exactly. We know you're just good, not great. So be it. Yeah. He had 80s to adjust the pressure. Exactly. And he failed for seven months.
Starting point is 01:13:02 And now I'm like, all right, so you're regular. So be it. I had hopes. I no longer have those hopes. Yeah. While Jalen Brunson, you're fighting for your fucking next payday every game of the playoffs. Ooh, which are the J's? J.B.
Starting point is 01:13:13 versus J.T. Ooh, B, what you think? There's actually a good conversation because they really do go as far as JT's all-time great recovery takes him. But J.B. has said, I'm the guy. Here I am. First option hoops. Give me all the shots. So who has more on their plate?
Starting point is 01:13:26 The guy taking the shots with the ancillary guy. I'm going to say this. I truly think Jalen Brown has a chance to prove that he truly is like the guy for this team. if Jalen Brown stinks the bed and J.T. got a backpack again. Yeah, those, oh, he's the number one option of the team. Those conversations are done. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Even post-A-L-Qaeda. It's easy J-L-Brown. Yeah. I think J-L-Brown's only player actively I'm a hater for right now. Why? I guess yourself. I don't get into it. Jaylonne Brown has more pressure than Jason Tatum,
Starting point is 01:13:58 even if just for the Achilles. The Achilles injury enough is to decide this. Yeah. Carthney Towns versus K. Holy shit. I've never ever thought about this in my entire. Holy shit. So it's Carthetowns because he actually can be traded and like legacy isn't fully done, can
Starting point is 01:14:14 get slander all this stuff. But Katie has a lot of off the court things and like, I think it'll run him into early retirement. He's so online. Are they going to bully him into retiring? No. He's too good. He's too hard.
Starting point is 01:14:26 He's too good for that. Yeah. But like, is he? He isn't until he is until he's that age where it's like, fuck it's not worth it. People are, if they go outside in the first round, the internet is going to hate him more than you could possibly imagine, I think. What's his contract situation? It's only a two-year deal, I think.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Are they still online to face the Lakers for some? What was that? Are they still poised to face the Lakers for some? No, I don't think so. Right now, I think it's the Timberwell's facing the Lakers. Right now, if it's a day, but it's so in flux, we really don't know. It's to come down to the last day. But right now it would be them versus...
Starting point is 01:14:57 Where are they at? Oh, four or five. They're ahead of the Timberwools. I think ultimately... Then versus Nuggets. Right now, it's probably going to be Carton Dade Towns who advances in this bracket. It's simple because, like, yeah, bro, like, if you pissed a bet again, like, we have, we literally have to train for you. This is back-to-back years now where you have not been able to show your value on either ends of the form.
Starting point is 01:15:15 You know, Al-Qaeda, I will push back on that. Cat, offensively was hooping, like, crazy last year. He just couldn't guard anybody. Sure. And, like, that's fair. The shot making that he, the shot making that he had, especially in the first round against Detroit, insane. Yeah. But also, yeah, people are getting tired of, like, the.
Starting point is 01:15:35 So the next thing they can win their conference, the Rockets don't. So that alone, I think, gives it to cat. Yeah, I agree. Lamello Ball versus Nicola Yochitz. All right, so y'all say, the guys at the top have inherent pressure. Where does that line be drawn? Because the mellow ball is a ton of pressure. Person, I didn't think Lamello should have been here.
Starting point is 01:15:51 But either way, it's going to be continuously Yokich. Khan versus Yonkich. Either way, it's called. How you still think that con should be both of the Mellipal in terms of expectations? I don't, I feel like, I feel like whenever people talk about Lamele Ball, no one ever mentions him as like one of the best point guards in the league anymore like that he's like no longer viewed as like death the face in that aspect at all so that's i just i just my by my grass person yeah i think i think yokech meanwhile people are comparing cons to like
Starting point is 01:16:19 clay thompson and like a devon booker hybrid and yeah but as far as playoffs go though you do get you get you get more rookie pass i think for sure even though everything you're saying is true he does have crazy expectations even me who glazes him the most will still say he's a rookie he needs He needs a couple years to get figured out the playoff stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's jokes. We don't got to talk about it. Cool.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Palo Big Carover Shangoon, the shit off. Okay. These are the same guys. The shit. Who's duky is stinkier? I think, hmm. Analyze it, Moe. This is tough because we've seen
Starting point is 01:16:49 Paulo like, bro, he's been average. His playoff numbers are dumb. Like, yeah, it's like 27, 26. He shoots like 40% for the 3-point line. But that's literally the only thing that's saving his legacy. Meanwhile with Shangou with shangoon like you have Katie on your roster and men and all that you were the two seed last year. You're like fluctuating continuously in the in the Western Conference.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I don't fucking know. Yeah, it's Palo Bencaro. We got to analyze this feces. I don't know, man. You got to get to the root and cause. We got to split it open. Look at the remnants. We got to look through these particles, man.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I don't know. Shangoon has a couple more outs than Palo does. Shingun is also easier to say, okay, you're just not quite like that. Palo Baner is number one overall pitch. his average 28 in playoff series. He's expected to be a top 10 players still. Outside of Rockets fans, people don't have that much stock in Shankuun comparatively.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Yeah, if you roll in, if Paula rolls into the playoffs and puts up numbers like 20 or 18 points per game and he's shooting like 43% from the field, it's like, all right, bro. Like you officially nailed a confident. I actually think they have a better chance of winning a playoff series
Starting point is 01:17:54 if he averages 18 relative to 25. I agree. I think they asked them to do too much. I think he asked himself to do too much sometimes. Pelop McKear, you have more pressure. You're probably going to win this bracket, actually, if I have anything to say about it. Shea versus Wemby.
Starting point is 01:18:07 I think it's Wembe. Yeah, I'm going to go Wembe here. Is there an amazing match-up? That's an amazing match-up. Is there any part of you that thinks, like, it is your first time in the playoffs, so maybe Shay has more with what you guys had said in mind before, with Shay about him being Kobe,
Starting point is 01:18:19 him having best put in the world caliber. Is that maybe more? Does Wembe get a pass if he needs a little time to figure it out? I think that's definitely an argument. I think for Shade to move forward, I think, like, that's the, that's the, of the reason why you would think that.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Wemby is just, Wembe's had some of the most pressure on him since he came into the league just because of all the expectations and all the hype. And because of the things that he has said and the things that he has done, now we look at it in this first time.
Starting point is 01:18:48 And there are a couple things that are like, I kind of do want answers for in terms of the playoff schedule and, you know, playing every other day, especially in the second round and playing that often. Elevating your minutes. The whole MVP conversation about him playing
Starting point is 01:19:07 and not having this many minutes and he's that impactful, does that really hold up in a playoffs? I think it will. Like, I still think he's going to be fine and he's going to be really, really good because he's that good of a player. But I think that that's something real to think about. So I would go Wendy in terms of more pressure.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Yeah, I think it's 1B easily. You came up here and gave your MVP case. That's something that I feel like we haven't seen like we've rarely seen an NBA history at all. And I'm not going to say people fell for it. It's very well deserved. Like you are that viable. You are the chosen one.
Starting point is 01:19:38 You're supposed to beat at least. And everyone views you and damn near locks you in like, yeah, like this guy's going to be running the league for the next 12 to 15 years. He's going to have, he should have so many accolades along his name. I think everyone's just waiting, been waiting for him to have his first couple of playoff games for the avalanche to fall and like reality to hit into strike. He just needs to actually do it. Yeah, this is the most glazed athlete of all time
Starting point is 01:20:02 Relative to time in the league, I think I don't think anybody, because the internet age matters here, so guys before, like LeBron and stuff, it's a different environment. I don't think anybody in the modern age of the internet has had so much expectation and glaze and accolades and praise thrown at them so fast that he really hasn't had any failure yet in his life.
Starting point is 01:20:21 He hasn't experienced any pushback. The second he has his first drop, the second act low point comes in the movie of his life, people are going to be on his ass. Yeah. Okay, now to the quarterfinals, Anthony Edwards versus Deeran Fox. This is weird.
Starting point is 01:20:38 I think it might be Deerran Fox. Yeah, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, but it is like... Does they have pressure on him for real? The roster around him, if they fail, I think the people point fingers everybody else besides him. I think the fact that he's made
Starting point is 01:20:54 back-to-back conference finals, it's like if he misses that again. He can have a down year, I think. Yeah, he should have. have the expectations of three straight conference finals. Yeah. But does he? But he's conference finals, man.
Starting point is 01:21:05 I guess. I think we go D.R. Fox. I think, yeah. I think Fox as well, but it's not, it's not false. Because again, you were playing with one media legacy and everything you do has some much impact. Yeah. And you just got a contract extension like seven months ago or so.
Starting point is 01:21:18 It's like being a LeBron teammate back in the day. We'd be like, J.R. Smith has the most pressure in the league this year. Yeah. Kevin Love is most pressure in the league this year. Yeah. Jalen Brunson for Shailon. Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown
Starting point is 01:21:31 I don't know I don't know I don't think I don't know I think it's Jalen Brown I think for the amount that Jalen Brown has vocalized
Starting point is 01:21:38 his feelings I think Jalen Brown has put a lot of pressure on himself and I would I would go with Jainer Brown also because he's talked about
Starting point is 01:21:49 the Knicks Celtics matchup is everything holds serving and goes chalk that will be something that we see in the second round he was talking about
Starting point is 01:21:58 how I still who can't believe we lost to New York. You're going to have literally everything that Jayne Brown has ever wanted in terms of like personal, like feelings towards him. All of it is on the table right now. Yeah, but no one cares. Like that's just him and his own position of the world. People care.
Starting point is 01:22:14 People definitely care. He's made people care. And people, there's a lot of people that are quick to hate on him and a lot of people that are quick to glaze the ever-living shit out of him. People, I promise you, there will be reaction both ways. Let me ask, though, even with that reality, let's say both of them have the stinkers. which one would be, which one of the two would we be like questioning way more in terms of Brunson's easily.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Because now you're like, damn, can I really rock with him as the number one option? Brenton has more to lose for everything. Like, for all that, yeah? Jalen Brown, I think we might care more for Jalen Brown. There might be more chatter just for everything Donovan said about the way he's picked himself up and the playoff and Stephen A. Smith going on TV and saying, that's my MVP, all this stuff. Like, we also got to quantify what do we mean when we say failure? What does that look like?
Starting point is 01:22:55 Stinkers, like first on X-Xists for both of them? Yeah, let's say second round exits. Second round exits. That's reasonable. Yeah, they both average, I don't know, 24, 25 on like that. Just bad numbers, whatever looks like that. Yeah, bad, bad numbers, whatever that looks like. I would say.
Starting point is 01:23:09 I lean Jaylen Brown, I think. Yeah. I think Jalen Brown will get more slander because of everything that we've talked about, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we're questioning his standing. Exactly, exactly. Jalen Brunson has more to lose in his career. Yeah. Jalen Brown has more slander coming his way if you fuck out.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's true. What side do you want to go to? You want to go to material impact to your livelihood? and your long-term wealth or these internet jokes. Do fuck the gossip, man. It's literally gossip when it comes to Jalen Brown at the end of the day. It's a gossip bracket.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Yeah, I'm going Jalen Brown. Because then we do have to go back and like all the times that in the years prior where you're like, I was really sacrificing for the better man of the team. No, you were just in the correct hierarchy. I'm going to go Jalen Brown. You weren't sacrificing, nothing. Actually, it's blood. I don't want to sit here all day.
Starting point is 01:23:54 We'll go Jailen Brunson. But man, I'm ready for the Shailen Brown stinker. It's Brunson. Carltony Towns versus Yokic. Cat. No, so where's this line? Actually, I don't know. Where's this line for Best in the World expectations
Starting point is 01:24:04 and maintaining your status? I think it's here for Yolkits. Actually, I think, I think Yokch. Most pressure. The root of the title is who has the most pressure on them? I do because I... Not expectations. I do.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I think it's Yolkich because, one, because like, the expectations are a part of it. That's one. Sure. Two. Wemby is. is on the way up. And I do think that having the other person
Starting point is 01:24:32 to potentially be best in the world be in your position, I think that matters as well. And I do think that for the Nuggets, especially because you have a very, very good Jamal Murray season right now, you do have to capitalize on this moment right now. I think I would go Yolkich.
Starting point is 01:24:51 People have talked about Yokic's defense more this year than they have in the past couple years combined, I feel like you do need to see just a solid, I can hold up type of defensive playoff run. I'm gonna go Yolkich. I think, yeah, it's pretty easily Yolkich. Like, how many more years
Starting point is 01:25:08 does Yokic have to win an NBA championship? Guys like Dylan Harper is that he's on the way. Stefan Kassel is just continuously getting better at every single fucking game. DeAnne Fox is still there and he's holding the ship. Jamal Murray, he's going to only play at this level for so much longer, you know? He has an injury.
Starting point is 01:25:24 He has an injury history. All those is the best season of his career. Like there's money issues ongoing with the nevernuggets right now. Like this exact court cannot continue. Yeah, Payton Watson. Get ready to speak. Purple and gold. There's just so much more. Let's go. The time is clicking when it comes to Yokic is like his opportunity to win a championship. If he wins a championship this year, he's vaulted and he's like guaranteed in my mind. It's like a top 10 player. Top 12 worst case in area. So we're going towards the players that have the most pressure on them because they're great versus the players with the most pressure on them because they're middling and have a lot to lose.
Starting point is 01:25:56 I don't know if it's the right way, but we'll do it. Here we go. We're testing your limit to the fucking max, buddy. Taliban-Kera versus Wembe. You just argue that Wembe has to win, essentially. Lines will be drawn. Right here. Lines will be drawn.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Well, it's the only reason why he's different because Wembe would be starting his run right now as opposed to Yon could choose like in the middle. Okay, so that makes a little different. Yeah. Holding the, keeping the crown is a little more pressure than getting it. Yeah. Because if you don't get it, you just don't get it and it's fine versus you lose it, you have to actively, you're down.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Palo, if you don't, you don't, you don't have. average 35. Everybody who has ever believed in you will be on the opposite side. I understand the precedent y'all just laid out. This is so easily palli vincarro to me. This is so fucking easily palat banker. If Wambi starts his playoff journey slow. It will be bad though.
Starting point is 01:26:44 There will be some slander. It'll be like false king. Not not some. Not some. It's just baseline. Yeah, yeah. You're a false god. So be it.
Starting point is 01:26:54 I told you he was never this good. Y'all gas him. Whatever. Yeah. Next year he'll come back and he'll fucking dunk at everybody. We'll be back to where we were before. And we'll say every great has to get the lumps first is what it is. If Palo Van Carrel shits the bed,
Starting point is 01:27:08 I don't know how far we can take what's possible with him. Oh my God. Yeah, I wish you're on camera for that. One of the cats just jumped up on Beesoul's desk for a second. Yeah, that was crazy. He did parkour. He jumped up to jump back up. Parcour.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Dude, that cat loves parkour. Yeah, I don't think there's a limit to how fall. Palo Mancaro stop. Damn. Type sheet. There's no limits how far the slander can go with Palo Man Carol. No limit. There's no limit how far he can fall.
Starting point is 01:27:37 I understand. Bottomless slander. Bottomless slander. You might die. The die. Man. Like pat. Those wings have been on your mind.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Oh, 100%. 100%. So we want to go Paulo? I do. You guys are the precedent. You guys have, I've been having the same bargaining where I go towards a guy that gets going to get slander. You guys are going towards the greats who have to prove they're great. If y'all want to go, Wembe, I get it.
Starting point is 01:28:05 This is not American law. We don't have to follow president. Palo. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. And here we are. Deer and Fox, Rich Jeline Brunson.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Because we can. We can do whatever we want. Deer and Fox or Jalen Brunson, I think this is where the Deer and Foxxel and Sanity Run ends. Yeah. Yeah. We can't let a second option with the lowest usage of any star. in this playoff, making it to the grand finals.
Starting point is 01:28:30 At the end of the day, he is going to pay $60 million in a couple years. He's fine. Nothing's going to change for him. Jaylor Brunson might lose out on some wealth. Yeah, true. Karen Fawkes can average a cool 17 points for a game. You know what's going to bat an eye.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Dylan Brunson, you're easily in the finals. Yeah. Oh, he'll be able to. This sounds so disrespectful. This is coughing baby. I know what?
Starting point is 01:28:53 The coughing baby is in the finals. I am not thinking. it twice about it. If Yokits goes out like he did last year, no matter what he will get his numbers. Yokich will not shit to bed entirely. If he loses like it is the thunder,
Starting point is 01:29:06 nothing is going to happen. What? He's the second best player in the world. The horror. If Valer McCarroll does anything that looks like what he's been doing lately, it's cooked. Fucking, put it on Paulo.
Starting point is 01:29:17 I'm not going to like Yokchch, I can't really believe he made it this far. He doesn't have shit to lose. I'm not going to lie. I get, I understand what we got up this far. But like, now that I'm looking at it. He doesn't have a damn thing on the line.
Starting point is 01:29:27 It's crazy. He even makes it this far. He loses it around. I know. And I think he probably should have lost the round one to LeBron. No, to LeBron is so thankful. Have you all seen the edits? They're like, oh, LeBron, you got one more in you.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Bring us back to 2018. All right, man. Send me one. I'll send it up. Thank you. Ground finals. Jaylen Brunson versus Paolo Bancaro. This is Paulo.
Starting point is 01:29:56 I'd never expect. expected this final finale right here at all. If Pella made this far, I don't see why you can't just win it. It is Pallowl. These are two guys that are seen as playoff risers. And if, and so, like, if they don't rise, who's taking the biggest fall? Like, Jen and Burson will still have some leeway if he has a bad playoff series. Palo Baner, Leroylegino legitimately will be slandered into another galaxy.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Yeah, you're right. There's so many other things that I can point to towards, like, why. Like you said, I'll try to find the words. It's unlimited slander for Palo. She's going to get biblical. There's going to be a plague of slander. We're dropping the world. Should it rain blood in Orlando?
Starting point is 01:30:43 You better get all that art, buddy. How much can we just make it rain? Raining's blood in Disney World is insane. Come on, man. Because Pelham Ben Carroll. Julie, how bad? Damn. He struck down.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Imagine the mother that has to explain that day. Sorry, God, Pallo had a sub-league average shoe shooting. Now we're all red. The sky's falling, man. Oh, my God. This is, the final really is the burden of being a playoff riser, quote, unquote. Because what that means is we think that you're a certain level, but we have to give you props greater than you really probably are because small sample size success.
Starting point is 01:31:21 That happens in the times that matter most. So we index on that more than the large sample size that say you're not quite at that level, that carries a burden because any moment that you don't prove that you are shooting above your level crashing back down. Yeah, man. But even then like just regular season like Jalen Bresden is just better than Palo. Of course, of course, but different expectations. Yeah. And so I think that that's what I'm saying. There's just a lot longer of a fall for Palo if the playoff rising doesn't happen. And the team that drafted you number one overall might be ready to say Bye.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Yeah, Deanna Brown can't fall to hell. So the same way, Palo and Carole can. It's going to be a long summer, man. The other than I was watching the Mads versus... I wouldn't go outside if I was Paula. If I had a bad playoff, yeah, I'm inside. He's been to fall to the Chinese Basketball Association. The other than I was watching the Mazz versus the Orlando Magic game.
Starting point is 01:32:13 What's that NBA Africa League? They're making. No one with J-Cole next. It's been a fall of Nigeria. What the fuck? Paulo and Cole. A big three of J-Cole, Palo, and Col. and Javelle McGee.
Starting point is 01:32:26 No, man. Kendrick Nunn. Paulo, yes, you by the last line. I've never seen the best player. It's Australia. Rashan McCants, coaching. You're fit to fall in Rashan McCans. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:32:37 You're going to fall on the Gilles Arena. They're going to give you a spot on the couch. Paulo, bro. This is crazy. You can't go out like this. No, he needs to turn out. You can't go out like this. Everything that you channeled over the last three weeks,
Starting point is 01:32:52 when you looked yourself in the mirror, look yourself in the mirror. Again, every day. Have a mirror everywhere in your house. Palo Benkara has the most pressure of anybody in the playoffs. You heard it here first. Oh, my gosh, man. Paulo, please give us another measly 25.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Please, I'm begging you. I don't even need to be efficient. Give me the points you, brothers, sis. All in Knicks, though? Okay. There's another guy that we can blame. Okay. True.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Now, why didn't he win the bracket? Because we wanted to put one of the best players in the world above him. I know. The other guy gets all the blame. You should have won the bracket. We're just putting the two nakes at the top. I think, I mean, actually, I think they're on the different sides of the bracket.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Cat versus Palo would have been the true real finals, I think. If we were honest, I think that's what it should have been. I think Palo wins that, too. He wins this bracket regardless. I think Palo is the right choice. Yeah, Palo's unprecedented. He was never going to lose. Palo's generational.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Unprecedented. Are you guys aware of the fact, transitioning over, to our NBA News Roundup? Are you aware of the fact that, LeBron James hates Memphis? I feel like every NBA star does. Are you aware of the implications that people are saying on Twitter
Starting point is 01:34:00 about his hatred for Memphis? Yeah, it is. Better you than me. I'm saying craziness. LeBron James, I'm playing the Grizzlies. I'm fucking 41 years of age. You think I want to do that shit on Memphis on a random Thursday?
Starting point is 01:34:16 I'm not the first guy in the NBA to talk about this. You guys got to move the team. Go over to Nashville already. And obviously Memphis fans saw this and rightfully felt attacked because not only is he saying, he hates Memphis, he's saying you don't deserve a team, which is a different statement, which I understand why fans will get defensive of.
Starting point is 01:34:31 The idea of being a small market team, the idea of losing your team is always looming above your head. Everybody wants to take it from your small market because they think you're not real enough. They think you're not powerful enough of an economy to bolster the league and whatnot. Memphis has proven to have a dedicated fan base. So naturally there's some pushback. Everybody calling LeBron fake, calling him Lecoats switch, calling him a lot of other things even got to get into.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Let code switch. It is tough when he puts on like the Kyle Raga voice. Yeah. And you're on a golf course. Yeah, you're on a golf course doing like the things. And you sound like that saying, yeah, let's get the steam out of Memphis. I can see, I don't agree of the perception, but I can see how the perception gets there. If I was in Memphis, I probably feel similarly.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Yeah. They have a right to be mad. Yeah, yeah. It's not an exaggeration on their end. Yeah. So then the conference happens on Twitter, reporter asks him. I don't see the question. I'm guessing they said, do you dislike black people?
Starting point is 01:35:23 Because he said, did I say I don't like black people? I'm 41 years old and there's two cities I don't like playing in right now. And that's Milwaukee and that's Memphis. And he further went on to say, shit, I don't even like going home and I'm from there. You see, this is what you do when you strategically are told you don't like this city that is very black. You throw in a very white city and say also don't like them. Anybody can get it. He's in Milwaukee too.
Starting point is 01:35:45 I don't like cheese skirts either. Fuck cheese skirts. Prong, please. Just stop. But he can double down. He stood on it, which I. I respect that He's like fuck it
Starting point is 01:35:55 What did I say? Memphis sucks I don't like it And that's fair That's fair If he doesn't like Memphis Then he doesn't like Memphis And it would be different
Starting point is 01:36:05 If he was like If he just pulled out A random city If he just said like Oh yeah I hate Charlotte Then everybody in Charlotte Would be like
Starting point is 01:36:12 Oh why But when there's a documented line Of NBA players For the last 10 15 years And all of them say Yes I hate Memphis as well On camera too It's kind of crazy
Starting point is 01:36:21 That's a that's a That's a bigger statement to the infrastructure of Memphis. The only problem is him saying the team should relocated. That's going to strike a nerve for people. Of course. Which sounds to me just more like him just like saying it, him not recognizing the impact of his specific wording and was like, yes, I'm in Nashville. National School.
Starting point is 01:36:39 He just like said that. We're like, you know, it wasn't fully thought out thought. And that's how you get backlash by not thinking through things that you say. Would you have the biggest platform in the world? Oh, I should have included in this. There's a clip of like local Memphis. news reporters interviewing like a bunch of little kids in Memphis about the LeBron coat. It was just a little like five-year-old white kid just like, man, LeBron's old anyway.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Back as asshole. Yeah, Kevin Durant also said he doesn't like playing there. And the root of the issue was the hotel that NBA players stay at. Apparently they stay at, I think it's a Hyatt in Memphis that they all think is universally shitty for whatever reason. And people have been pulling up videos of this Hyatt looking at it. A bunch of people were like, looks like a regular hotel to me. That's because the living standards of you.
Starting point is 01:37:22 and I are different than living standards of an NBA player. We have different definitions of fine. And apparently NBA stars have decided that that hotel is below the line and makes it an unenjoyable experience. You guys are babies, man. What do they expect? Nice hotels. I get it. Come on, man. Apparently, Ann said, like, he had, like, shit stains in his bed. Who saw that? And I swear, he did. And he did say it. No way. Yes, he did. Now, I'm, saw the video of the of the Memphis Hotel. I get it. I understand
Starting point is 01:37:57 the sland. If we stayed there on a trip, would you feel like this hotel sucks? No, probably not. Okay. But also, we have stayed in nicer hotels in like San Antonio. And so it's like if this is the best that Memphis has to offer, yes, that's probably going to be a problem. You talked to aunt Memphis Hotel. Type in his name. The other person to quote him as aunt.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I love him. All right, here we go. I'm crying, man. El typeer. You don't stop, bro. I already have too many allegations on me, bro. You already disproved the reading. Now I'm going to get you to type a bunch of words for seconds.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Typing this. I don't have my earphone in. What did you say? Anthony Edwards says Memphis has dirty hotel rooms. When we go to Memphis, I'd be like, damn, this shit's be dirty. I walk into a Memphis Hotel one time. I had stains and shit on my bed. See?
Starting point is 01:38:49 All right, LeBron. Yeah, and this is. You got a point. And so like the way. This is before LeBron's quote, right? Yeah, way before. February. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:56 The way the NBA players talk about Memphis, because this was after KD and Dremont had said something about it too, where Draymond said that they were in the hotel and all of a sudden like the sprinklers were going off in the middle of the night and everything was just crazy. The way Aunt described it, he said, into Memphis, into the Memphis hotel. That means one of two things. Either one, there's one specific hotel in Memphis that sucks and the NBA just needs to get NBA players into a different hotel or
Starting point is 01:39:21 there's every hotel in Memphis has similar And the entire hospitality industry in Memphis is cooked. The governor of Memphis is time to look at the fucking mirror bro. You need to have real regulations on board. Yeah. Yeah, that's the best one. That's where people are going.
Starting point is 01:39:39 That probably says a lot. That's disgusting. It's shit stains on the bed. So do you want to see the Memphis Grizzies relocated Nashville? I mean, take them out of Tennessee. at this one. Why would you just go to order? Nashville's like an up-and-coming city or whatever.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Yeah, it's like that up and coming forever. I know. I think it's just up now. I think people just like it. It's just like a country Caucasian utopia. That is what it is. People say it's like it's Atlanta for white people. Yeah, it's like another Austin, but people want Austin to be. It actually is that country cultural
Starting point is 01:40:12 center point of the city, I'm into the country. They killed Austin. Yeah, now they have Nashville. Yeah. You walk around, you see 100 Theo Vons. But yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't move the, move the team. I would just, just build another hotel. That sounds a lot.
Starting point is 01:40:30 The amphionists and build a own hotel. We'll just have serious workers. Like, what are you doing? I'm just imagining a hundred thing of months now, like in the street. Just much on alligators. So I'm saying, Adam has all these great ideas for making money. You submit that money to make a hotel. We're good.
Starting point is 01:40:49 But we need the Memphis owner Needs to build a hotel So he's to lose his fucking team Actually no No I forgot the Memphis owner is the one who wants to relocate the team Right He's the one that bought it And apparently had the plan of relocating it to Vegas
Starting point is 01:41:01 Yeah The one that's in with the war tech Yeah He bought the team and wanted to relocate it He's the one Put in state He's personally He's in placing them
Starting point is 01:41:14 It's his state He's setting it up What the fuck He's hiring people shit on the sheets so he can go to Vegas. No, that's crazy. He's half his time he's talking of Vladimir Putin, being a criminal. Half his time, he's sitting on sheets.
Starting point is 01:41:30 They have a devious odor. It doesn't at the same time. I bought that. At the same time, multitasking. Two phones. She's on sheets while talking to poo. He's spreading off sheets where it's crazy. He's got two phones.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Oh, man, man, man, man. Kevin Gates had ass. Next news story to talk about The Janice and the Milwaukee Bucks drama has intensified over the last few days. Again. Again in a way that seemingly
Starting point is 01:41:58 I think he isn't getting talked about enough. I think it's cooked. I think it's like super cooked now. As you guys know, Janus has been dealing with another injury as of the last month. He feels it's time for him to return to the court. The Bucks feel slow down.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Shom says, the NBA is investigating the Milwaukee Bucks for their handling of the player participating policy and potential inconsistent statements regarding the health of Janus. Sources tell ESPN, the league has interviewed Janice aside
Starting point is 01:42:24 the Bucks and the team doctors. Follow up, both Ante Dekumpo and the Bucks have told league investigators different stories. Milwaukee Bucks have informed the NBA that it doesn't believe Janus is ready and actually wants to play.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Janus informed the NBA, he wants to play, but the team will not medically clear him. Dude, Janice, what's the fucking cops? He's suing the bucks. He's suing the bucks. This continues another follow-up.
Starting point is 01:42:51 A year of dysfunction between a franchise and its cornerstone played out with the Bucks failed trade talks last August and in February trade deadline. Now the league office is the audience for the latest squabble about whether he can play or not. There's some other quotes that we can pull up about what Yana said personally. He basically said they got me extremely fucked up and I don't know where our relationship goes from here.
Starting point is 01:43:11 You have to think it's cook now, right? Good job, Milwaukee. Good job. They stand on someone from the first time. But I heard they stand on the wrong thing. Like, clearly, everybody knows we're not going to, we're not going to last long term. We need to break up. But you don't want to break up with me.
Starting point is 01:43:27 So I'm going to make, like, you don't want to come out and you don't want to say it. So I'm going to make you hate me. And I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that you just look at this and say, I can't, I can't be here. I need to move on. Shout out to them for actually doing this. And, yeah, I do think that it's cooked. I do think that Yonis would be on a new team at the start. of next season.
Starting point is 01:43:49 And it sucks that I had to get to this point. But Haydahn's just stepped up and just said, hey, I want to be traded. We wouldn't be here. Yeah. Yeah. Three quotes here that Yana said. He was talking reporters on this day. There are quite honest quotes, actually.
Starting point is 01:44:05 First one, I had an initial conversation with who I should be talking to, which is Coach Doc Rivers and John Horst, the GM. And the initial conversation is that I want to play. And after that, I've never had a conversation again. nobody has ever approached me about not playing or whatever the plan is. So he's saying they're kind of ghosting him about not clearing him. He keeps saying I'm ready and they're not saying shit.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Next one. I've never seen a case of a player of my caliber that's like saying it publicly, I want to fucking play. You know what I'm saying? I don't think I've seen this. So if there needs to be an investigation, great. There should be.
Starting point is 01:44:39 I don't know until we figure something. That's insane. He said nobody that's as lit as me has ever been this fucked up by their team. Can you believe it? We need to have the feds involved. Do you know why he wants to play so fucking badly? He wants to play with his brothers, man.
Starting point is 01:44:53 He wants to hoop with Alex Thinacoubos so fucking bad. Which I understand. From his perspective. Last quote. For somebody to come and tell me not to play or not to compete, it's like a slap in my face. So I don't know where the relationship goes from here. You know exactly where it goes, man. Los Angeles Lakers.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Shut up. I'm tired of everybody speaking. Nobody say another word You go over there You go over there Break up with that hole man What's wrong What's wrong with you man
Starting point is 01:45:28 We got to put a muzzle on him I'm sorry man This is talking to the homie That's in a toxic relationship This is what it is That's not ridiculous to say Man break up with that hole man
Starting point is 01:45:42 God It's not ridiculous that. It's not ridiculous. It's not ridiculous at all. Continue, man. My bad. My bad. No, you're right.
Starting point is 01:45:52 You nailed it. Exactly. I wasn't going to go there yet, but you're right. I was going to go there in less precise language. But I agree. I think he's in doing this. You know what this is? He's been trying so hard to do this loyalty gimmick and say I'm so about the team that now the next step of that is to say, I'm so about the team and I'm so about the team and I'm so real and I'm not being fake that I'll play through anything.
Starting point is 01:46:14 I got to get out there as soon as I can. and they are impeding him from doing his gimmick all the way and maintaining his image. That clearly has been the most important part of all of this is maintaining his image and not wanting to be the guy that give up on his team. What you talked about at length is understandable to some degree, right? Sounds to me like he found us out. Like he found his way to tell himself that I was trying to stay and then they fucked me over. It's like a max crowd the situation where he has some issues with the medical staff. And now if a trade happens, so be it.
Starting point is 01:46:38 We're not seeing how to hide. He's psychotic. He's calculated. This has been a year. long case study course class in manipulation. He is the peak NBA male manipulator. That's what this entire year has been. And now you're going to see somebody over the next, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:59 four to six months lie to themselves, lie to the public publicly about how things. And honestly, no. I do agree or I do believe, honestly, that like, that Milwaukee is like, no, you're not going to play because they do think that it's the right thing for them to do. They're not going to go anywhere they want to be in the lottery, all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:47:20 I do believe that. But I also believe that Yonis is now going to take this and spin it in his mind and be like, yeah, I was so down when you were never, you were never down to the extent that you said that you were. Angel Reese just got traded to the Atlanta dream. Who? Angel Reese just got traded to the Atlanta dream.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Oh, shit. That's the city. That's crazy. Two first on picks, trade to Atlanta. Two first? They moved first like that in the W? Wow. 2027, 2028.
Starting point is 01:47:44 That's a top top thing. Wow. That's a lot. That's great. Wow. Okay. Two? Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:52 I'm not informed enough of how the draft pick dynamics work there. Okay. Wow. She's going to thrive. She's going to be on all types of podcasts. Atlanta podcast. Yeah. She's thriving.
Starting point is 01:48:07 But yeah, with Janice. She's been to have Omar on the show. She has to. Oh, God. Logan. Not been drooling. She. She has to,
Starting point is 01:48:14 nah, Janice has to be out here. He has to be off the team. That's just, that's just number one. He has to be off the team. I'm glad you corrected yourself. That's where you were heading.
Starting point is 01:48:26 She has to be off the team. My, which I'm merged two conversations. That's on me. That's on me. I got to be one way. I'm just so happy for the bucks, man.
Starting point is 01:48:41 Like, they finally like actually they grew up here and they're like nope can't let this happen bro they've let so much shit slide and they tried everything to make yonis happy they even signed Alex adenacouple bro like what people talk about like how people talk about brawny james Alex deacobo is he embodies that bro do you know how bad he is at basketball he averaged in the g league like three four points got 20 minutes worth to play on 32 percent shooting from the field. He's so fucking bad. It doesn't even make
Starting point is 01:49:15 any sense, bro. And what else? And I understand why Yonis was to get his I-G pick off between, he just wants to see him and his three brothers on the court. I get it. But it like, for the bucks, it comes to a point where I like, all right, bro, I signed Alex. And you want to play? You're my biggest ass. You could rupture her fucking Achilles.
Starting point is 01:49:31 And you want to risk that. The line is drawn. Yeah, I've really become so, so, anti-Yonis in this entire process. because I was never on his side from the beginning because I have always stated I just wanted him to be very upfront
Starting point is 01:49:46 with the fact that like you don't want to be here and that's okay and nobody would have faulted him for that so it's been like that and then as the year has gone on as we've gone and gotten multiple injuries from Janus at this point I'm kind of at the point where I'm like
Starting point is 01:50:00 you know if I'm a real real contender and you know what the hall is going to be I'm not 100% sure that the value is going to be there for training for Janus so I think right now I wouldn't if I had the if I had the choice I wouldn't be in in the honest business I just I don't know what I just remember it up before this just started what did you say it Mo said you look like a Walmart employee
Starting point is 01:50:26 now this is ridiculous he said that I told Donovan first mind you he was two hours ago that was sorry into my That was two hours ago. I just came and swinging for no reason. I said you look at you work at Amazon.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Two hours ago, free show. And we were talking about basketball. I was just looking at you. He's so proud of that vest too. I was. I was very happy to buy this best. I got for 30 bucks. I thought it was kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:51:02 It is fine. It's cool. I was looking at you and I was looking at you talk and I wasn't listening to shit you were saying. I was just looking at the vest. And I remember that I couldn't push your own. Pushed your cards. And I'm mad too because it was a very funny joke. And a couple of times I've looked at myself and I have got to check on.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Yeah. You can just imagine they have a song patch. Yeah, there's been a couple moments where I'm like, should I take this off? But I don't know. However, that was wild. I couldn't even get it out. That was wild. That was wild.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Not say that that that didn't. happened that you were wrong. Oh, I just had intrusive thought that had to let out. It was just unnecessary. I have tears. I'm crying. We have put a 2-3 patch on it. I know.
Starting point is 01:51:56 That's not true. Like we have a grocery store. You know, creators start business all the time. Now we're trying to sell you something. We're trying to sell you a grocery store. This is step one of the rollout. We have conversations about our, about the. TD3 restaurant over the weekend.
Starting point is 01:52:12 What are we going to sell? I can't give them the secret, but bottomless wings. Bottomless wings? We were talking about bottomless wings. We saw a couple of restaurants in Chicago that have bottomless wings and Donovan sent in the chat. It's like, we've got to hit this.
Starting point is 01:52:27 I can't even imagine being able to take advantage of a bottomless wing truly. How many wings can you eat that is worth it, that you truly get to the bottom of this bottomless bit? I think if you make it through two rounds. What's a round 10? I think at the first one I said, I think it was eight. 16, okay, maybe I could make it towards three rounds.
Starting point is 01:52:45 That's easy. Yeah, I want to say that. Yeah, I think because it was 20 bucks for the bottomless swings. Yeah. So I think if you get to 16, I think you're good. I don't know if I get to 16 without my stomach hurting. And I certainly like getting past it into a third round, I feel like you're just like eating because you have to now and it's going to hurt. I think if I'm ambitious, I'm just going to lock in, unlock that badge.
Starting point is 01:53:05 I don't want to do I'm going to use. No, man. I'm going to use my limitless belly. badge, bro. I'm like, I'm losing everything that day. No, it is. I can eat 60 wings if I don't have any fries, but I need fries.
Starting point is 01:53:17 I need the ratio in the back and forth to mix up the photo profiles. Now, that's a different conversation. Because you need the balance as a meal. You need to have chicken, then you have the salty potato come in. It adds variety and balance. The same way you have any size.
Starting point is 01:53:28 That's the point. I can't eat just chicken. Like, I need to mix it up. No, I think I can go. Straight chicken is kind of brutal. Yeah, it's a punishment. If you're on a race. 24 uncut.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Just dogging wings. Why are you on a mission? You're different. What are you trying to prove? How much sauce will just be sitting in your belly? I paid this money for bottom. And you got nothing to soak it and you have no carbs to soaking in. That's what they want.
Starting point is 01:53:54 They want you to get full on the fries. They do want you to get full of the fries. Exactly. Exactly. I need my fries. I'm not giving you the satisfaction. You're not telling me what I'm going to eat with my meal that I have paid for. I'm going to order a wings, dog.
Starting point is 01:54:08 I don't know. That's a lot. A count. Just say you we can move on. Don't even pull up to bottomless. If you're not eating 12 wings at bottomless wings, don't show up. That's insane.
Starting point is 01:54:20 You can't you 12 wings? You're a bitchman. A standard wing stop combo is 10 wings and fries. If you are not touching that, don't show up. If you don't want to play that way, don't play. 10 wings is like the perfect amount. Break. If I eat more, when I get like 12, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:54:37 why did I do that? Most regretting this. 12? Yeah, like, why did I feel the need? 12 with fries, though. Yeah, with fries. I can understand that. I'm going to eat a good amount of fries. In this fries propaganda, you don't need the fries. You kind of, you guys are anti-fries? It goes well.
Starting point is 01:54:51 It goes well with it. What are you fucking freaks? You have bottomless wings. Yeah. If we are going to. That's my point. I don't need bottomless wings ever. Then don't show up. Then don't, don't pull up. I'll go about that. You are a man on a mission.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Clearly. You know how I know the bottom But you know how you'll be sick of those fucking wings eventually, man That's disgusting Just dog and straight chicken meat He's sort of like at the game Yeah Clearly
Starting point is 01:55:25 Like the frat Then don't go for initiation if you can't take the heat If you can't be branded Don't show up to the cow-house Stupidest of all time But yeah I'm letting you know on the running. We are supposed to get unlimited
Starting point is 01:55:44 of whatever I... What's your career high in wings right now? 33. What? Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah, we recently. Okay, question though. I think it was Beasol's first producer corner to talk about it. Yeah. So, so question. Because I, because like wings obviously isn't like the number one thing that you would go to if you had like bottomless.
Starting point is 01:56:04 But if you had bottom, a bottomless item for food, what are you going? I can eat bottomless. I'm saying $25 bottomless insert food item here, where are you going? I'm glad you've asked this. I've thought about this before. There are two foods that for some reason my brain shuts off my understanding of stomach capacity. I just go. One is french fries, actually, and pizza.
Starting point is 01:56:22 I can eat unlimited slices of pizza. I feel like if I eat fast enough too, I don't get myself time to get full. And I just go in one flow state, I can clear pizza is so easy. I can get to pizza flow state if it's like the, this the tavern style. Like when it's like, when it's the small square, oh, I'm, I'm going to stay. With a stank cross? Yeah. I can finish a whole pizza by myself and more.
Starting point is 01:56:44 But if it's like the regular slice, I probably, I can. Are you eating the crust included with that too? Of course. Yeah. Of course. That's a lot. Now, if you don't eat crust on pizza, I think less of you instantly. It's worse than boneless wings.
Starting point is 01:56:57 I eat the crust. I eat the crust last. But I, but like I still eat it. You still eat the crust. Yeah. No, he's lying. He's like. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Sometimes it'd be too much. I'm like, Exactly. Most of the time I do, though. Most of the time I do. Which item? Unlimited what for $25? Maybe mad, stereotypical.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Fried rice and orange shaking. Okay. Eat that forever. Forever's kind of crazy. I got a terrible sweet too. So probably like cupcakes or something like that. Unlimited sweet seems like such a bad idea. Cookies, I think I'd understand.
Starting point is 01:57:34 Unlimited frosting on a cupcake is outlandish. Dude, I am the worst. Like, literally, I remember a couple of, of years ago, whenever it was someone's birthday in my house and there's cake around, I'm eating cake for breakfast, lunch, and dinner cake the whole day. I've done that too. I eat like a let the
Starting point is 01:57:50 sweet for breakfast all the time. Yeah, but I know, but it's like extended past breakfast. It's everything the entire day. For like four days straight until it's gone. Just understand. I'm saying I'm crazy. It's another level. It's another. Don't try to relate. This is crazy. You can't, you can't. Don't throw me your bone here. I'm nuts.
Starting point is 01:58:07 You have the cake. Frye some eggs on the side? Nah. That'll fuck everything up. Then I'm like, like, I'm living like this. Proteet me back in reality. Die. Ew.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Eggs and cake? That is a crazy combo. That's, that's outlandish. You can't do that. You can't do that. We can't even cake for breakfast. I can't have anything seen.
Starting point is 01:58:23 We're already off schedule. Normalities up the door. Yeah. Who are we to say? What's crazy? All right. Well, that's a good.
Starting point is 01:58:33 That's good stuff. If you're still here, let me know how many bottomless wings you can plow through like a little piggy. Point, boink. Biggie. Let me know how we'll link you are.
Starting point is 01:58:43 And we'll see y'all tomorrow on Housecall for our 2026 NFL mock draft. And on Thursday for the next episode of TD3. Was that you putting a mask on? Yes. Oh, okay.

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