The Deep 3 Podcast - We Need To Talk About The LaMelo Ball Trade | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

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Lamella Ball is on the Timberwolves. And like we mentioned up top, we weren't here to record it on that morning. You want to know why? You guys know. Audience people I'm talking to. You want to know why? This is going to sound made up. On Thursday, the day Lamella Ball was traded.

I was with Lovar Ball. Not only was I with Lovar Ball, father of, said Lamello Ball. I was at his home. Oh, wow. I was at the Ball Brother or Ball Family Mansion, the day La Mellele Ball Ball. It's known that just has Baller Mansion. Baller Mansion. Oh, my bad, by bed.

Oh, man. He knows every room at it. Actually, he's wrong. He's wrong. The front, there's a big sign that says Ball Estate. That's what it's known as. And there's a big BBB logo on the house like as a storefront. That's so hard, man.

He's tough. I was there for a clash video, which I did a couple of videos. We got to start scamming, man. I got to get the estate, bro. That's so hard. Yeah, I was in. Braya, California, up in Chino Hills, at his fucking mansion to record some clash videos with him, Carson from NerdSesh, OG, and I forget who else was there.

We did a fan v. Hater. We did a video where we talked about ranking the best point guards in the league. That's why I had to travel. Did not expect to be with him the day his son is randomly traded to the Timberwolves. Insane. He must have been just limping all around the house so fucking upset and mad. He must have been pissed. Or he must have been happy

himself Hell yeah We were running all over in Minnesota Zoh coming Leangelo coming Everybody Yeah I asked him What

I'm updating the people What do you mean? Yeah So I asked him several questions About it in the videos Like I was here I wasn't gonna be like What do you think

About blah blah blah Like You know it's a hectic day for him But asked him But asked him a few questions In the video I don't think he gave a fuck I don't think he was worried

At all I don't think Not worried obviously he's not worried. I don't think he cared at all that his son's not going to play for the Hordets anymore. Like, why would he? Why would he care about Charlotte, right? Yeah.

It doesn't make a difference. Like, I don't think, honestly, like, once Lonzo gets traded from the Lakers, it's like, all right, man, listen, you guys are in the league. As a father, I've done my job. Yeah. I told the world that my three kids were going to be in, in the NBA, Leangelo in and out, whatever. But, like, again, I have fulfilled my promise to the masses.

It's really on y'all now. So, and I can understand, like, and this is a much better situation where he, like, it's crazy that the Hornets traded Lamello, but also he could probably spin in. It's like, this is just another team that wants my son. Like, he's, he's going to take the Timberwolves back to the conference finals. Like, this is what we do. So I can understand the not worriedness about leaving the Charlotte Hornets. Outside of the Lavar Bowl, let's talk about that. Is Lamello Ball can take Timberwolves to the Promise Land?

are the Hornets dumbasses for trading their franchise point guard a year after they had a magical run in the second half of the season that was like 50% sparked by lamella ball finally playing healthy good productive basketball what do we think about the deal so I I so when the deal happened I was like 95% sure that I knew exactly how I felt about it and that 95% was the straight sucks on on both ends Nobody wins. Yeah, nobody wins. As I have thought about it more, I think for the Hornets, it's fantastic.

Because the Hornets did something that we basically do all year long, which is make fake trades and be like, oh, yeah, they should trade this person and really get off of them. But they never do it because of all these other attachments to it. He went number three in the draft. He's been there for so long. You're not going to get off of Lamello, even though that he has. some flaws in his game with the way that he operates. And the Hornets basically were like, no, we're going to do it. Like, we don't think that he is that level of player.

So we can move off of the franchise cornerstone guy because we truly don't think that he is a franchise Cornerstone guy. So I commend them for being cutthroat in that way and making that deal. So I actually think for the Hornets, it's really, really good. You're not getting caught up in the fact that you went on this run in the second half of the year and you feel like you have your future in Khan and in Brandon Miller and you're operating in that, in that sense.

And then for the wolves, I don't like it from the sense of you're really small now and you are really putting a lot of pressure on really go bare. But if you feel like your back was against the wall and you feel like you're being cornered because this team is, you know, deteriorating your, you're, you're, you're, you're, you year over year. All right. Like if you went to the rest of the league and you said I got one first round pick, couple pick swaps and Nasree, what is that going to get me? Lamello's probably the best probably the best player that you're going to get for that specific package. Now Moe asked you, he laid out his general framework for both teams. I'm sure we all relatively

agree we'll get into the specifics. When I tell you, Anthony Edwards needs a point guard, needs a star point guard next to him. You'd agree, right? Absolutely. When I tell you La Mello Ball needs to play with another player that's a better score than him, you agree, right? Absolutely. When I tell you both these point guards, or both these guards, have very specific personalities and needs fit-wise to get the most of them to keep them in line. You would not say each other is the right answer there, would you? Fuck, no.

How do you feel about this duo together? Like, when you see Ant and Lamello Ball Photoshop together in one uniform, what goes through your mind? Treacherous twins, they are the definition of that, brad. But on the court, I think it's going to be a beautiful duo. It's like specifically offensively. They're going to reek so much goddamn. am havoc, this three-point ability, the playmaking, the ability for the mellow ball to just, like, create confusion sometimes in a good way, but also in a bad way at timesuit.

You've seen plenty of times this career. I think this is a, I like this trade for really the timber rules more so because for the, as for the Hornets, I don't, I'm not like a super big fan of moving off of the Melo ball, not necessarily this early, but for this package, I would say. Yeah. Like, I don't know if this is the absolute max value of the. the mellow ball. I mean, right now, sure, it is fair to say, but considering, like, the state of your organization, I think it's very fair to you, very fair for the Hornets

and their GM to, like, know who you are, you know? Because not every team has should, should be, should want to have the ability to just like let go of the guy who led them to, arguably one, historically, like, one of the greatest comebacks in regular season history in terms of where they started and how, like, down they were in the Eastern Conference. Fair. It had a special run. Fair. We'll get to Timberholes. Let's talk about the Hornets. first. You mentioned it. Historic second half of the season,

special run. I think it's important to do two things. Ask ourselves, one, why did they do this? What's their plan? Two, where did that special run end them? The playing tournament. Where they proceeded to get absolutely destroyed by a team that was more physical than them

and punked them. Part of that is a lamello ball thing to some degree. Right? Their lack of defensive identity building around him, the lack of physicality he showed, like some real flaws were showed that you could understand at least why they'd look at that game and realize that

even though they got best case narrow for half a season, there's some baked and downside with this version of the team as currently constructed. You can kind of understand that aspect of it. Other side of it to me is last year we did an episode or segment probably multiple where we talked about players that should, in our opinion, get traded

before this season that just happened, right? We talked about Lamella Ball that after last year in which he had another injury-plagued I think that was year five for him last year, not kind of the season just happened, four of those were injury-plagued. we all had no faith in him anymore. He wasn't playing serious basketball after the injury.

He wasn't available. There's obviously question marks with him as like a leader and personality and whatever, which we don't necessarily care about. But they're in the air, right? There were so many reasons to not believe in him as your franchise player that a year ago we wanted him gone. This move says they agreed. He just had no fucking value because everybody agreed with us.

The second he had value, the second he had one slightly healthy season in which you could point to a team and say, look, we fix his ankles. He'll be good next year, I promise. Come give us top dollar for him. they did it. So that tells us the whole time. They clearly agreed

and clearly did not see him as a vision for what their franchise should stand for. Like you mentioned, you got to commend that. Do they have an opinion about the guy? It wasn't a high one and they acted on it.

I also agree with you. I don't think they sold high. I don't think one first round pick and Nasreed and some pointless pick swaps. I don't think that is selling high. I disagree. Clearly the market says it is. Yeah, and that's why.

That's why. Because I think anybody in this position that a majority of teams in this position coming off the season that the hornets just had and somebody that has the the like a city and a fan base that has the attachment to to lamello for them to turn immediately around and say we're trading you i i think for for them that is like yeah we're we're done and so i do think that this is selling high because if they think if if they feel comfortable trading trading lamello what do you think the rest of the league feels like like if they they have all the

reason in the world to be as invested in in lamello more so than anybody else and if they feel like they like they should trade him i'm sure a majority of teams around the league are also looking at at lamello and saying yeah honestly like i'm glad he's your problem because we don't really want i don't want to be in that business so this is this is clearly the best i can get right otherwise it wouldn't shift in here it doesn't feel like selling high in terms of i'm a hornets fan i should feel great about the value. If they had gotten like an extra pick or two, I would tell myself, we had the unreliability factors and we cash the fuck in.

I got to be happy. It's kind of more of middle ground where we got out of a business. We clearly didn't want to be a part of. The return is just okay. So I would feel kind of strange and up and down if I was a Hornets fan seeing that, knowing the upside that we saw that we know the stat everybody talks about. He had the second highest on-off offensive net reading swing in the NBA. He is one of the best offensive engines in the NBA and we're finally seeing a trio of

young players play together and we have this vision. We had the starting five that was so dominant all year, especially in the second half. I want to see that vision through. I would be left feeling a little bit strange about it all if I was a Hornets fan. Yeah. And also too, super strange because just last year around this time, too, we were in, we found ourselves in a position where, you know, the Memphis Grizzies weren't necessarily shopping Desmond Bain.

They just got a random call and they got offered four or five fucking first round picks. This is not one of them scenarios where they got offered. for the whole house. You know, that's not, I'm like, okay. Like, if you're forcing the phone call and you're only offered me, like, one real pick that could be valuable, of course, because that's when it will be not necessarily up there, but towards the peak of his career, like, I can understand that. And that's, like, a TBD pig.

But if I'm, again, like, the Hornets, who literally have nothing to show for over the course of the entire history or organization, and also, like, over the last, like, five years and you had the most success that you've ever had pretty much in the most talented core players pretty much just to get rid of that awful like off of this well but this not reading the big for real well yeah it's nasty it is it is like so like on paper yeah on the on the surface it's nasty i think it's a very process driven more long-term outlook of for sure of the team and uh be sol's guy i saw his boy damo he made you made a video saying that the horn is clear because they had this trade and then they shipped out miles bridges and so they clearly looked at their team

and said we're going to get all of this buffoonery out of out of the out of the team and when you look at do you blame him for that no i don't i don't i don't blame them for that you look at who they brought in as as the coach of this team a couple years ago charles lee you're coming from from a boston seltic staff hold on man you're right they brought in pat connington mason pommlea leon leon of course con can Exactly. As soon as you have- They're gentrifying the team right now in front of our faces.

As soon as you have that. It's a high character guys. Yeah. As soon as you have that on the team and you look around and again, you bring in Charles Lee, you're trying to build this.

Four the five stars are black. I love narratives. They're also like they're black. Yeah. Those two guys specifically in terms of Lamello and Miles Bridges and you're trying to, you're trying to build this thing up

and you look at, you look at what is, what is, what is winning in the NBA right now. And you have teams that are picking up opposing point guards 94 feet. You're looking at teams that play insane pressure throughout the entire game. You're looking at teams that are physical teams that have, you know, two bigs on the, front lines.

And the Hornets are trying to have their version of that. Now you insert Knows Reed into the starting, yeah, into the starting lineup. And you have guys that fit the mold of what you actually are trying to create. And so from that. standpoint, I do understand it because obviously Bridges has all the stuff that comes with him, Lamello driving all over Charlotte being, you know, reckless on the on the roads. Like it, Ralph, yeah. There's, there's clearly reasons outside of just basketball where you can look at the Hornets making

this move and say, I understand it and I get it. And that's all about basketball too. There's also reasons basketball wise to do this. I led with, I'd be feeling confused and mixed feelings of as a Hornets fan. I am not a Hornets fan. I don't feel mixed at all. I think this is a solid, defensible move. Again, like I said,

I don't think the value they got for him is great. Clearly great wasn't on the market. So I have to divorce myself from that, divorce myself from the sticker value of seeing one pick and Nause Reed and that being underwhelming. The market clearly says Lamello's underwhelming

and that's what you're going to have to take, right? They're going to try and do the Hawks did. That's the one-to-one corollary for what they're trying to do. The Hawks traded Tray Young because they felt that he also is this offensive rating swing, engine of our team.

Without him, we have no playmakers. How will we ever have. have a functional basketball team, take the ball of his hands by moving him. You empower Nick Killers Under Walker. You empower Jalen Johnson. You're placing him of C.J. McCollum. So give you guys another ball handler and not have absolutely nothing.

Kobe White, you were now Cedgeon McCollum. Con Ciginibble, Brennan Miller, you were now, Nick Killers Under Walker, Jalen Johnson. They're trying to do the exact same thing because they were in the exact same scenario where they had a one-way star point guard that has his own downsides offensively because both of them, poor rim finishers, both them heavy three-point rate, which is very helpful. But the scoring is never going to be high.

highly efficient to match that because the interior scoring isn't good. Both their playmaking is the leading force of their value with very little on the defensive side. They're very similar players. One small, one's short. That's why we like the mellow ball a little bit more, right? But one's also more injury prone in the mellow ball's case. They have a similar circumstance to do that. Now they're going to have fucking freakazoid spacing with Nas Reid there.

And Nas Reid, congenital Brandon Miller, crazy shooting. They're leaning into that doing their same analytic-driven approach they did last year with the offensive rebound and three-point rate maxing. That all makes sense. The only question I have is That strategy makes a lot of sense When you're going from an offensive slanted team To defense of slanted team like the Hawks did

They leaned into defense to say By doing all this and redistributing our offense We're maybe going to stay even there But get better defensively Because we're moving Trey Young They got Nas Reid and Kobe White That does not make you better defensively It's not a one season move

Like this is very clearly We're trying to Con is going to go into year two Brandon Miller is going to go into year four year four, year five. Yeah, whatever.

So you are, you are setting yourself up for it to have a foundation of a team that you want to be. So I think for them, they're looking at this and saying, listen, I know it looks crazy right now.

Talk to us at the end of next year. Talk to us going into free agency, going into the draft a couple years from now because that's what we're actually building towards. And so I do feel bad for Hornets fans if it does go, if it does go south

because this is a team that just last week when we were talking about how the heat stack up in the east. And I was like, oh, They won 44 games. Their team that can win 50 games. I don't know if that's the case anymore.

It might happen. In fact, I still think they're, yeah. It might happen, but I don't know if I feel as confident. Maybe that's just because I saw what they were and now I'm a little bit unsure. But if they do take a step back and now they're like a 42 win team instead of 44, then for the Hornish fans like, damn, like we have to wait again. Like they've just been so, you know, so unsurious. I don't think it's a bad thing. Yeah.

I think it's not. It just sucks. It does suck. It does suck. It's back to the mixed feelings with Hornets fans, right? You would expect the Hornets to double down and try to be better

after that last season, right? Sure. You're coming this off season saying, now's your moment, go get some upgrades, snatch that, try to be a contender next year. That would be your logical conclusion, right?

They probably heard that. They thought about it and said, we don't think it's worth it. We don't think if we try to take the next step and go all in on this core with Lamello. We don't think that there's, there's a vision there to be as great

as you would think there. So we're going to reset, play the long game, which the Hornets they're always playing the long game, which is the unfortunate part. They're always in a fucking reset. What do you mean you're going to reset? You're driving me crazy right now.

We're on, we're taking the positive steps. And what makes it like a little bit different from the Hawks is of course like, you know, I've seen the conference finals before. I at least like seen the actual high of my team. I didn't get to, I experienced playing. I experienced the highs and lows. And I guess the Hornets did good considering like they did solve at an absolute high. And I can envision a real real world scenario where a couple of years go down the line,

they maybe win 50 games next year or whatever. And then Lamello Ball's value plummets. And the next thing, you know, he's getting traded for like a C.D. McCollum type or like trade package. And now they have to, like, retool again. And it makes it way harder to do so, considering you have less flexibility. That's very true. But again, it goes back to you have to know who you are. You are the Sacramento Kings of the East.

That's how the league looks at you. No one takes you furrow seriously. And this is the first time where you're actually able to build your stripes and build real fandom pack out your fucking stadium over there in North Carolina for the first fucking time. That's what, and I think so solely based off the optics of like fandom

and like building your respectability, I don't like this move. But that's the thing. That's the thing. That thought process is how you become the Kings for real because they feel that way and they go out and get the bonus. They feel that way and they go out and get Levine.

They feel that way and they go out and get wherever the next middle tier distress. But we're just asking you regular though. That's it. Be normal. Yeah, but that's the thing. You're chasing regular and you chasing products.

is how you become the Kings. It takes bravery to say if we try to do that, we will still be mid, we still won't be reliable because we still think La Malleable will get hurt and all the downsides.

We're gonna take one step back. Now we have three first-on picks in 2033. We have assets. Nice. We're looking at 11th graders or not even 11th graders, 10th, 7th graders right now,

six graders right now. Yeah, do you say that. I'm looking at trade assets because I have all my picks. I have three picks in 2033, so I have a long window of having plus picks before they become due and become regular picks.

If there were three 20-27 picks, you would have to draft those players soon or trade them soon. Now we have a long window to have like seven tradable first round picks. We can have that foundation. Can't forget the new lottery odds. If we're mid and we win 42 games, so be it. We are the 11th seed and we're in perfect spot to jump up into top four lottery. This is the perfect way to spend the next two years building what could be a long-term vision that could actually contend

instead of trying to maximize a middle-tier vision that might get lucky to have a conference finals appearance like the fucking hawks. Yeah. And two things. one, you say, can you be normal? If Lamello's on your team, you're not going to be a normal team at all. That's not happening. Yeah. If you look at this tweet and you look at all the picks that they have,

you have Minnesota in 2030 in four years, in 232, six years, 23, 33, seven years. And we can talk about the Minnesota side of it, too. They clearly made this move because they felt desperate because people have said it and joked for a while, but as we've gotten into the summer, you start hearing it a little bit more and you start to feel the pressure and you start to look around and look at the roster and you say in four years,

is Anthony Edwards going to want to be here? Right? Like is he actually going to be a part of this team because we have not done a great job continuously building a championship roster? They had it the first year or the second year that they had Kat and Gobert and from that moment on every offseason

we come up here and we doubt the Timberos because they lose a key. piece and they've lost they've lost in the kill Alexander Walker they've lost nods Nause reed they've lost cat they traded Julius Randall for nothing they don't have anything and so if you're the hornets and you're looking forward and by the time we get to you know year five of con then and brandon miller has you know come into himself as like a true true player oh we got picks that are going to be fairly valuable and especially if the lottery odds go back to to the way that they were I think it's a

it's a good haul for for the hornets and for minnesota yes i well amen it's it's time there's multiple there's multiple things that you have to be good at as a as a gm you have to be good at trading you have to be good at free agency you have to be good at drafting and this puts all the pressure on minnesota to fill every single pillar of that job because you are now on the clock you understood the risk and this is part of it and it's okay to to gamble sometimes when you feel like you have to go out and do something crazy, but it is legitimately now or never for them. And there's no more deteriorating.

The next deterioration is Ant leaving. Are the Timberwolves more likely to win the championship with La Melle Bar or without? See, that's tough. And right now, with Lamele Ball, yeah, I'm saying more likely to. Okay. Compared to a good move. Previously, sure.

So you're happy with it. Given the fact that Ant is clearly in win now mode or everything Donovan just said, you're happy to move overall for the Timber Bulls? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I guess I agree It's kind of lateral I don't think it's lateral

It's maybe lateral In like a wider sense Because we do have the built in downsides Of the Mello ball that caused him to be traded On the court They're better with him than with Julius Randall Right like they're better now It's unfortunate that they have the Dante

Vincenzo contract Going to be missing for the whole season Because of Achilles injury So they're an incomplete team That feels a little weird That was going to be the case regardless Right they were in a tough spot because of that Can't really factor them to this deal

And their idea of them as a complete team I don't like the I-O trade at all. I mean, I-O signing at all anymore. Because now they're in a position where they want to get their best players in the court, they're going to start I-O-Lamello, Aunt Jada McDaniels-Gobert, tiny fucking team.

I suppose Anne can function as a three defensively, and it can be like, all right, the spacing should still be good. It can be like fine. It's a whole entirely different type of team that they've been for this double big era, counting Randall and Kat, both versions.

They're no longer going to be this defense, brute force, speechuous size type of team, we're just off that. We're now going to be a run-up another quarter of the mellow, pace and space, maximize Anthony Edwards off-ball type of team, which we have been asking for. I've been saying for two years now that if you're going to get Anthony Edwards another star, stop trying to make it a big. I don't want to see another cat.

I don't want to see another Randall. I don't want to see even a wing. Like people will say like Kauai, KD. Katie could be fine. But like, you know, that's not my number one priority. I want to see him with a point guard, capital P point guard, passer. pure pastor that will set him up and make me never have to think about

a point guard version of Anthony Edwards like I saw in this past year where he's lead initiator I want Ant being a amazing off the dribble spacer cutter runner in transition getting elbow touches running off of screens being that spacer like all the shooting guard stuff I want Ant to do I want him to have energy for defense I want him to be Kobe Bryant and not James Hardin

yeah and now we got that we got the perfect fast pace point guard for that yeah I think the one part that and the reason why I say Latter was just because the bar for them now is basically what they've done for the last couple years which is you have to win a playoff series to stay in this window

to make it feel like you guys are actually building something because if you make right or wrong if you go into the playoffs and you lose it in the first round we're going to come back to this exact trade and we're going to go back to the two moves that you made and say oh it's the wrong move right you lost trade whatever

I just look at them and look at how you look at how okay c and how san antonio are are building their teams and they're going back and forth and you have you have wemby and you just drafted

uh jaden and so you have that front line there and the okayc says we have check guess where we're at in mara and so you have seven footer seven three defensive monster nine foot two right like you have all you have all these pieces that have insane size and now being able to go against that

and saying, okay, we got, we got, you know, six, six, five to six nine. I'm very curious to see how that goes. And I think it is a lot of glaze and risk on Jaden McDaniels. Because you are now, you now like are showing the world. We think that he can just be one of the 20 best players in the world. And we think that he can be OG. Yeah. He can average 20 and still.

For this team, even, even better. And if they, if they feel that way and we've seen flashes of it, cool. if you think that you're going to get the consistency. Okay, but that's a big ask. When it comes to being, go ahead. Be souls. Nope. Sorry to cut you off because this is not important.

How does your throat feel? What's the fuck? Crazy. Better. I can talk full sentences now, man. I figured the people should have a nice day update after the calamity that was the draft stream. The 10 piece. That too.

Man, every time I post now, I'll get 10 piece comments. No, that's crazy. That's feeling good, though? Yeah, yeah. It's better. I can talk full sentences now. We're here. It doesn't hurt to swallow?

No. Good. Cool. I love that for you, man. Thank you. What are your thoughts on Timberwell? To close out the section, what do you think? No, I mean, going back to...

That's so foolish. Going back to what you said, Donovan, at the top of your spiel when it comes to being a GM is, like, hard. All that bullshit you're talking about. Let's get to these. important part. It was good. It was good. A little bit of fucking functionality in that noise. It was good. In order to be a GM, you got to be good at trashy. You got to be good at the free agency

stuff. You got to be good at trades and shit. And like, I think looking back like retrospectively, of course, like everyone feels like they gave up. Although like the Rudy Gobert trade like did work in terms of like they did like reach pieces of their franchise in which they haven't reached in a long time making back to back conference finals and all that. They did end up losing the car on the Towns trade.

this is like the direct like outcome of that of that in the miller ball and all the flexibility that tim conley sold us in and then they also like ended up outside of like anti-edwards and jana mcdaniels they lost every single fucking draft asset that they could have possibly had biggest one of course being the rob dilling hand stuff and they taking like a lot of swings and misses and this is like the final output of it in my opinion of course like if this is the best that they could do this is the best that they could do and this this league is like built off a risk and also a whole lot of of luck too. And I can see and imagine a universe where they have

something in their back court that no other team specifically in the Western Conference for now can say that they have the no-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-lose-does does, which is like they have the best handle and creation ability compared to every single team. Also, shooting more importantly, and also when it comes to the mellow ball, the range

of which he's shooting from, which is like a super strength, you know, for back in the day, not even back in the day, a couple months ago. And it's been happened repetitively over the last few years when it comes to teams and there's simple way to throw Minnesota off of their fucking rhythm offensive. He's like, yo, throw two people at Ante Edwards and make them get the ball out of their hands and let other guys make your decisions.

And nine times out of ten, that shit don't work. You can't do that anymore with some like a mellow ball on your team. So I like their odds when it comes to finding out what's going to happen next. And lamella ball is that. And that just creates a whole new world opportunity. Step in the right direction. They're going to need more, of course. I think they're going to need to find some other bigger power force that they get some size.

but this is like they're in the process of like literally retooling in their prime of their rebuild right now. Simple fact, having Rudy Gober's screens with two of the best off the triple shooters in the league is going to give you a pretty goddamn high floor offensively. We'll see if they can build up the roster the rest of the way and give you one more big wing or power forward-sad body to make you feel good long term about them being like an upper-level contender. But you really can't be upset about the fit on paper routine those two guards.