The Deep 3 Podcast - We Picked 1 Future Star On Every NBA Team | Ep. 105

Episode Date: September 6, 2024

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Feels kind of empty in here, doesn't it? A little bit. I feel like there's something off, something missing. Something missing. Just like I just, I look around, I just see one less gigantic forehead. The lack of cranium in here is crazy. It's crazy. Welcome back to another episode.

As you see, we have one less Mojo 99 with us today. He has some scheduling issues traveling, but I'll be back next week. So in his absence We have a guest for you guys Somebody who you'll see right after this intro comes We have B-Soles from Let's Keep It a Buck From Souls and Sage From Beasles, you know, Twitch streams

One and Only here with us today He's everywhere Real fun episode for you guys You guys are gonna like it He fills the void perfectly It was great And as you see by the title We are talking once again

About the biggest breakout stars In the NBA this year A very, very fun episode 100% Can't wait Listen it got it got unhinged a little bit towards the end so you know it did listen everybody's favorite everybody's favorite part ticot time we got ourselves a banger this week yeah we're recording this after we record the episode

which is unusual for us but i don't want to spoil anything but i will say make sure you watch the last 25 minutes or so of ticot time watch all the way through the end today it is very worth it but yeah man you guys know how it works we're going to go through every single NBA team we're going to talk about their biggest breakout star or if they don't have a star whatever you know somebody who's going to be a big surprise next season. You know we lie. You know we lie. And whenever we say breakout started, you understand what we're trying to say. We already, we already did this feel an hour ago when we started. So they'll see this after the intro. We'll fully explain it. You guys know how it works. Before we get to that, though, before we take you to the conversation

with Be Souls, I promised you guys something last week. You know, every week we do our streams. It's Tuesday now. It used to be Monday. Every day, every week we do a stream on Tuesday, which is essentially a second episode. But last week, we couldn't do our stream. Scheduling conflicts came up. I had to cancel it. Very last. last second. So I promise you guys we would do a merch giveaway. And we did that at the end of this stream this week. I told you guys to comment on a community post that I put on our channel. And you guys did. And now I'm going to pick three people to give merch to you from that. And what I told you guys to do was comment your favorite TD3 moments and your app for me to hit

you up on Instagram and Twitter to give away the merch to you guys. So here are the winners. First we have at yes and yes 4522 who says when Isaac inserted the nerd emoji while talking about Yonis's clutch block in the finals. That's his favorite moment. A real recent one. Very recent, very recent. But good job. Listen, I will say, I picked randomly where I did, close my eyes, I scrolled. I said, tap the screen.

Oh, yeah, yeah. These are all at random. All at random. Next one, we have at Joshua Pace, 5941. He says, what are we Canadian? It's an all-time classic. As a Canadian, y'all got to bless me with some merch. You know what, Josh?

We're going to. We're going to give you one item, whatever you choose. Shout at the Canadians. I'm not going to shout out the Canadians I'm not going to do it I'm just not maybe next time I'm just not

and last but not least we have at Momo Sal 908 who says Mo falling off his chair during her stream was crazy that was insane he fell asleep

and fell out of his chair in the same stream this is a goofy guy man just a goofy guy yeah man so I'll hit you guys all up you three win the merch and you know we're going to do this periodically

least the second time we've done it this summer we're going to pre-outic to give you guys some of our stuff but yeah man let's get into the episode want to welcome a new guest somebody that we've got to be out of the show somebody that we've collabed with before but you guys haven't seen because we went on his show and hopefully you saw that because it was a great time let's keep it a buck we got Beesoles here today man

how you doing? Good good good glad to be on here appreciate y'all for having me how y'all doing? Doing great man I've been wanting to have you on for a while so today was a perfect time

appreciate it man appreciate it nah I've been seeing all the work that I've been doing y'all been killing it so thank you man I appreciate it what's it called

I'm always catching myself watching your live stream clips on YouTube that's like the main source of content I consume of yours yeah a lot of wild stuff happens on my stream but like everyone sees from the title

like we talked about in the intro today we're going to do I think an annual thing for us at this point it's a second year in what we've done it we're going to go through every single NBA team and we're going to pick each team's breakout future star whatever you want to call it now obviously we are known liars

every time you see a title by us it says every team says star all the stuff just know it's going to be hyperbole it's got to be hyperbole because not all these teams have future stars I can promise you that some of these teams are old and dusty on the bed don't expect much so for those teams it'll be more like a breakout role player

we're gonna do our best to give every team's best chance at a star that we don't expect to be coming 100% listen this everybody I already understand like you said it we're we're no liar so I'm ready to I'm ready to get into it though big fan of click bait hey get the clip farming off man it's a new matter I'm gonna choose a YouTube title every single time over the truth I don't think I'll feel bad about it don't yeah man so all of us

the three of us have two divisions each 10 teams each we're going to take turns one by one talking about our team and I think it's only fair we let the honorary guests go first

who was your first thing you want to talk about I mean if you know me you know who it is man you gave me their division too man so I am going to be talking about the defending champions

my Boston Celtics okay I know Isaac's a Laker fan Don, what, what team are you a fan of? I'm a Knicks fan. Ah, boo, you too, man. I'll see you opening night. I'll see you opening night.

I will see you there. I'm pulling up to Boston, all right. It's on site. It's on site. Oh, yeah, we're going to be there. Maybe. We'll see. It might be on site.

I'm going to be there and I'm going to be looking for you. Where is Donovan, man? Crazy, crazy. He'll stick out like a sword thumb with the Knicks gear, the big old hat. You'll see him. Keep that same energy. I'll be waiting. Yeah, that's my wife.

I was just done With the Celtics this year though We started off with the lies man Not really a breakout star For this team that I'm looking at right now Because everyone's kind of peaking This is a very win now mode team But if there is like a role player

That I feel like we'll make his mark This next season I am actually gonna go Peyton Pritchard Damn Yeah That was the good right We are pushing agendas today Honestly, I was not a fan of him

At the beginning of last season He really won me over the second half of the season But in terms of being in that six-man-of-the-year conversation I don't see him being the guy that puts up The crazy numbers that you need to win that award But I do think he's the guy that people will notice more Coming off the bench being a contributor To one of the best teams in the league

I see his efficiency going up In the conversation, maybe like 50s Yeah, yeah Dent on the ballot Yeah, you know, we talk about, like, the MVP conversation, like, you know. That's a bonus in there. Yeah, some bonuses. Yeah, he's really in the conversation.

But, yeah, no, I think out of everyone that's going to have, like, a career season, I guess, paying pictures up there for me. You know what? I'm going to let you have it because, like you said, they have nobody else of substance to go with. This is the least interesting thing to do this with. So I'm glad we knocked him out first. I'm glad you got your mini white chocolate. with Love Off, I'm with it.

That's crazy. Yeah, no, I'm talking about Jordan Walsh, but like... 2K legend. Yeah. Okay, man, yeah, like I said, some of these teams like the Celtics who they are who they are, we'll keep a brief on them and move on to other teams

are more interesting. I guess I'll go second with the team that might have an actual breakout star. I don't know. The Utah Jazz, which is a disgusting transition to go for the Celtics to the Jazz. It's nasty.

Some Danny Age talk. We'll see, right, I guess. Yeah, I think they have a lot of interesting pieces, obviously. They just drafted Collier at 26, Cody Williams. They have a lot of interesting young pieces around Larry Markening. But I think for this coming year, if there's any one of those pieces that's going to make a big leap and surprise people, I think it's got to be Keonté George. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

Yeah. Last year, he was promising, but not particularly good. good. Like he was very good for a rookie, very high in like a redraft, but in terms of actual NBA impact, highly inefficient, cone, all those things you expect from rookie guard. But I think he showed just enough flashes that if you imagine him in a better team scenario where they're not tanking the second half of the year to get the high pick, they always do in the back two months of the season, you put him with actual other playmakers, don't have him be this high usage guard being thrown into the fire as a rookie. I think people would be really shocked that

he's a legitimately, could be a high level shooter when a shot selection is better because He's not forced to take a million terrible shots. He's extremely shifted. He can get to the rim. I think he's passing his decents. You know, it just makes perfect sense to imagine a year-two guard next to Lauer marketing, all these other wings, really take a big step forward next year. Yeah, it makes sense also because he's going to have to break out, like, for his job.

Because quietly, because, like, quietly, the back court room is getting kind of crowded in Utah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you have, you have, you have, you have Collier, Colin Sexton. We talked about a whole bunch of how him, you know, he's, you know, he's, you know, He's underrated. Like, when you talk about that rotation, somebody's going to have to, somebody's going to step up and then somebody's going to take a step back. So there's already been talk about how the jazz haven't, you know, fallen completely in love with Kiante being their lead guard. So, again, somebody's going to have to go win that job.

Like, if he gets it, shout out to him. But I'm very curious to see if he's going to be able to, like, hold off the guards of the future that Utah has. yeah and that's always the thing it's never a guarantee you with these young promising guards that are drafted like late lottery for these teams everyone's always like oh the next big court piece and they drafts two more of those guys and it's like oh i've heard there goes uh queen cook you know now he's not relevant like that always could happen but i think he's the most positioned to if collier becomes a starter if colen section takes a bigger role next year keonti can fit next to all those guys because i think he'll be a really good shooter i was looking at basketball index last year and like i said they tank like crazy end of the year like they always do and they have stats that show you

their shot quality and openness at different levels he graded as an F on overall shot openness just by far the most contested shots on the team

one of the most terrible shot qualities in the league so naturally that's a hooper right there that's what that's telling me that's a hoopers hooper exactly

he knows how to get on any coverage that's what I like I may be on the Kante George train this year I might have just swayed me he was on ball 40% of

of his possessions. That's entirely too high. He is not James Hardin. He does not need to be spam and picking roles like that. 40% Oh my God. 40% on ball rate. That's absurd because they were playing unsurried basketball. But I think he is a skilled shooter. I think all the percentages will go up when he has a better role next to him. I can see him and Collier, meshing just fine.

Okay. And that's our jazz talk. That's not bad. That's the most we talk about the jab all summer. Short and sweet. That's it. All right. I'll start with my first team. we're going to start with the Atlanta Hawks just because this guy like I'll just say it we're going to start with with Jalen Johnson I think it's okay good pick it's really the only breakout candidate that I see we kind of expected Jalen Johnson to break out last year he low-key did but he was hurt for a majority of the year like I think the leap and a lot of this is really just about people knowing who Jalen Johnson is because had he not gotten hurt for a majority of the season I do think that Jalen Johnson would have either been firmly in or won the most improved player of the year.

So now coming into this season, you trade away DeJante Murray, you have the number one pick, you know, new school Harrison Barnes, all that type of stuff. Jalen Johnson is going to be kind of like the running mate for Tray Young for this next year and going forward. I think he has the clearest path out of honestly, maybe like 85% of the league of the league to take a leap and be like a star 20 point per game type sword like his his path is so clear right now yeah soles how do you feel about day on johnson how you about the hawks we talk a lot about the hawks is obviously mo's a hawks fan and he's not here to defend their honor right now but

every time we do talk about them jaylon johnson has talked about like he is palibank caro so i'm curious how you feel i mean i think they're a team that trey young is in this he's in the phase in this career where he really should be starting to win but it's kind of like a thing where he won a little bit too early after uh 2021 and ever since then they just haven't properly built on that season so i feel like they're in a direction of like i think they have to go one way or the other let's go really young or let's go all in and trade these number one overall picks and really try to build the best team that we can build around tray young uh but right now uh even the the rissa shay pick i wasn't a fan of so

So if there is a breakout star for them, because of how low everyone is on Zachary Rissachet, I was like, man, he may, like, you know, exceed these low expectations everyone got because apparently he's just new Jen Harris and Barnes. So I think, listen, I didn't say that. I did not come up with that, right? All I'm saying is that streets are talking, streets were saying that he's new version Harrison Barnes. I was like, okay, listen, we can roll with it and we'll see going into the season.

I just don't think, like, they've been the dead. definition of mid since 2021 and even then they weren't like some crazy juggernaut like they you know they got a good path in the playoffs and they handled their business but they are not they're not good enough to be at the top of the conference they're not bad enough to be at the bottom they're always going to be in that like playing range like that six seven so I don't I don't know if there's like they really don't have a lot of candidates for like yeah this person is going to be really, really great because they have enlisted mid year after year after year. And Jayland Johnson is the only one that has a chance to not be supremely mid.

I think Risha Shay, the narrative around him is going to flip pretty early in the season when he proves to be just a good, competent player. And we look across the country and we see Washington, D.C., and we see Alex Starr stinking it the fuck up as a rookie because he is going to stink it the fuck up as a rookie. I think it would be good long term. The defense is real. Offensively, he has all the tools. those tools are locked away in the toolbox for now

they are not available to him at this moment he currently has a lot of room to grow offensively and it's going to be a terrible experience as a rookie and I think people will quickly realize oh okay research day is fine in comparison like we don't got to pretend that he's awful and the guy behind him was like the next coming of Tim Duncan you know

yeah that's a letter but I like the Jen and Johnson thing you guys mentioned Beasold you said they kind of are stuck in two paths they kind of went towards a youth a little bit more by trading Dejante but they're still not fully there they still employ can Capella they still employ Bogdan, all these guys that could move. I like the Jaylon Johnson picks.

I feel like he fits both paths. If you want to try to be competitive and go for that coveted six-seat that the Hawks have the ceiling of, Jaylon's going to be your second leading score. If you want to tear it down and trade everybody but Tray and Riesis-Shae, Jay and Riesin-Johnson can be in that mix as like a top three guy you want to build around. It makes all the sense of the world that either path that go down.

He's going to get more and more usage. Like you said, Donovan, the biggest benefactory of Dejante Murray being gone. I'm with it. Yeah, 100%. Oh man, they're so mid They're so mid But I like John Johnson He's not mid

I think he's definitely gonna be remembered As like in a few years We'll look back and be like It's hilarious that it took so many years For them to really get him going But he was Had so much opportunity That several coaches before Quinn Snyder

Just had him glued to the bench Two point guards Gotta love it Fucking 8th minute I think their uh I think their all time record is Legitimately like 500 Like on the side

So I always make fun of that Atlanta Hawks is just being a NBA team. Like when you think of a NBA team, that Atlanta Hawks are not too bad, not like they are un-N-B-A team. One of the NBA teams of all time. Yes. The NBA team of all time, really.

That's so true. That's a bar. I'm Matt Mo's not here to hear it. Oh, man, what's your second team? We're stealing that. We're running that back. I'm going to say it. I'm a pretend it was,

mine too. All right, man. My next team is the Brooklyn Nets. And for me, he may be a bad answer because he really did have a breakout season last season, but I do think there is still some more room for improvement there. And outside of him, I don't see like Nick Clackston making this big leap. So I'm going to double back and say it's Cam Thomas. Okay.

Yeah, I think obviously he's a bucket. He already is a bucket. But in terms of his defense. That's what the game is about. Thank you for saying that. Yo, I have tried to tell Isaac for the last month that the game is about a bucket. And you have to be able to do that. And that's why Cam Thomas is so valuable.

I appreciate you so much for bringing that up. Yeah, man, it's one of the aspects of the game. It's a skill. It's a skill. But, yeah, there are some things he can work on, specifically his passing, that I feel like he's going to have the ball in his hands a lot this season. More than last season. So hopefully with the more opportunities he's getting this season within the offense,

he can actually build on his game last season. But yeah, I think Cam Thomas, he can make a lead from like, because I think he averaged like 22 last season, 25, 26. And I feel like there is a- Yeah, I feel like there is a difference between how someone is perceived when they're averaging like low 20s to mid-20s in the league. He's an interesting player. You know, we have, it's no secret.

we have a young fan base and because of that some of them are very young and some of them when we have videos about promising players that would be like what about Camp Thomas

when we're talking about like Palo and Carrow and shit I'm always like bro shut up it's just Camp Thomas so I often find myself this missing him for just being a chucker

that can't pass can't depend all this stuff you know the typical stuff that he has the narrative attached to him for for a decent reason I do think there's a world that where you're right

that it's a different type of game when you have the ability to just be that guy take shots because it doesn't matter versus when you're the best player of the team and even though the team's not really trying to win you're going to go out there every night and you got to be respectable or something embarrassing it might be an environment that kind of forces him to develop a little bit so there is a world I think where he has a scoring boost and starts to try to pass more

because he has to try to pass more because he's going to get blitz by 30 points and they're going to be looking at him crazy because he's taking all these shots while they get destroyed that's kind of an environment that makes you want to get better at passing so you don't embarrass yourself I'm not fully out on him so I like the pick yeah about kianti George having that on ball percentage of 40%. I'm very curious to see what Camp Thomas is at the end of this year. Because, like, on one hand, you're right. There can be a situation where you're getting double teams all the time

because you are like these score on the team. You're like, yeah, like I should probably pass. There's another type of person that sees that and is like, challenge. And I will overcome this. And I feel like Cam Thomas has shown throughout his career, he looks at it as a challenge. And he's like, you're going to put three people on me. Please, that's not a good idea.

Watch this. Exactly. So I, I'm not too sure about the passing. But the 25, 26 points a game, that is a lot. But I do, I do see a world where that happens, though. Just because like the Mets, listen, shout out to them. They got into their rebuild mode. They're about to be playing some fake basketball this year.

So Cam Thomas, you got it. Yeah. I still think they're going to be atrocious. But if, like, if I just had to pick a name, I was looking at the roster I just don't know who else I'd pick So Yeah I do uh

Yeah I like that pick because like you said He's gonna get all the usage in the world I do kind of think Nick Claction Might continue to Prove himself as a really I'm trying to find the right verbiage here Because they're gonna be irrelevant They're gonna be shit

So I don't know if he had action Good attention from the mainstream media But I do think he'll be one of the more promising Defensive Bigs he already kind of is But I can see him You know the same way Camson Let's take more shots Maybe Nick Clackson has to take more shots

and I don't really know what that looks like I don't know what that looks like Oh the nets are about to be so bad Oh my god Now that we're really like talking about them Oh my God The Nets are about to be so bad They collapsed in between the legs

Ah I guess our offense revolves around a guard That can't pass Oh my God And a big dick that can't shoot Ooh Oh my goodness Hey man shout up Cam Johnson

He's in between it all checking those corner threes stop we can move on they are going to be horrible listen cam thomas is on my fantasy team and he'll be remaining there

I'll say that he's gonna get those buckets in his yeah I'm gonna use as a keeper this is news to me strategy strategy starts now okay okay so we did

an irrelevant team let's go back to a good team Oklahoma City Thunder this pick will be of no surprise to anybody who's ever heard the show Donovan you can fully Actually, I don't know because I like both

They're young guys But my pick for the breakout star for this year Is obviously Jaylon Williams I almost feel like a cheating Because I feel like last year you kind of broke out But I think he'll be an all star this year Oh Okay

Damn Yeah, I think it'll happen I thought you were gonna say two names But yeah You had two options But I mean the other ones checked for me For sure Yeah

And you could go either way I think that's cheating to me Yeah I don't know They're both so good I feel cheating either way But I went J-Dub because I think I could actually see him being on the all-star team

because I think they're going to be the one seed again they're going to get all the hype in the world because obviously they have Caruso, they have Hardinstein they're going to have all the attention as being probably the favorites out West and the only thing holding Jada back last year from being an all-star level player with that type of production he just didn't get enough shots

like it was literally just that he was outrageously efficient in every single way he shot like 45% on pull-up threes and 44% on catch and shoot threes 68% at the rim I think he's just a good of a passer as Shea Gildes Alexander. Obviously, She's not the best passion in the world. It's not a high bar.

But, you know, I think offensively is a full package. There's no more Josh Giddy-sized hole on the roster. Those shots can be redistributed. Probably Alex Caruso starting there, who's not going to be a guy dribbling and taking up usage the way Giddy was. I just think we're primed to see more from J-Dub. He's probably going to be empowered to be more of a second star. We saw the need for that in the playoffs when he was shut down and it was really

Shea versus the world and that didn't go well. They're going to need him to be a consistent second star. the playoffs so they're probably going to empower him in the regular season to keep developing that way and it just feels like that time that last year everyone was like oh he's a star in the making this year he's legitimately going to be an all-star yeah that's that's fair because i think like if you're looking at the thunder one like they're already so young but i think that the name that a lot of people might think of as like the breakout guy for this year maybe the case of wallace but sure for the for the same i think like for kaysen for the same reason that i was talking about

like with the jazz it got really really crowded in oklahoma city very quickly right and obviously like they have a whole bunch of depth now and they are the favorites but now where do you you have that room for the young player to step up not really sure so now you have to have like a baseline level of opportunity for somebody to come in and get those shots i i'm with i'm with you on jada i think like for him it's not even about like more shots i i just want to see him in the playoffs i i I just want to see it kind of fast forward, you know, to April because that's the one thing to drop off that he had from regular season J-dub to playoffs is one of the reasons that they didn't make the conference finals. And even still, they were fighting like tooth and nail with the Mavericks. Like they still could have been in the conference finals with him playing that bad.

If he steps it up 50, 75% from what he was in the playoffs and is kind of, you know, the same version that we saw throughout the season. Yeah, it wouldn't be shocking for him to be on an awesome team Who would you be kicking off then in the West? Did Paul George make it last time? He's gone Yeah, he's gone. Yeah, Paul George's gone

Let's say he'll give him his spot I don't even know Was he even an all-star last year? Paul George, I believe so. I can't remember. He's out of there. Rudy Gaubert has the worst PR in the world right now they're not going to pick him again.

He's not going to make kids so we'll throw him out too. John's coming back though. True. Yeah, listen, I don't know. when I say someone's an all-star, who's to fucking say, who's to say who's going to be healthy? But I think he'll be in that conversation, he'll be that level of player.

He might be an all-star replacement. I don't know, but there's like 30 all-star level guys in each conference. But, uh, makes sense. Back to the playoff thing you talked about. I agree. We need to see it in the playoffs. It's also not that surprising or not that concerning to me because, you know, everybody says whenever a young team is up and coming,

oh, we haven't seen the playoffs or young and I'm proven. They got to go through the fire. A lot of times I think that's over, over-emphasized too much. That shit was true as hell for them. That was the first time he saw a playoff defense. He saw an elite defense at the Mavs keen to take away his strengths, and it showed. And I think a young guy like him needs to go through that, and it'll probably be better for it.

They attacked his handle. They made him really get tough buckets where normally I think he relies a little bit too much on his athleticism and tough shot making. He's going to have to improve off that and, you know, get some more go-to moves to create reliable shots against hard defenses. So that honestly makes me feel better about it because now he knows what he needs to improve on. Would you say J-dub is more on the underrated or overrated sides right now? Because I've had conversation about them recently and just depending on who you talk to,

they're either gassing them up like too much, arguably, or like they just don't know how good he is. Yeah. Well, listen, you're talking the wrong guy. You're probably talking to somebody who gasses him up too much. I'm not the one to ask. I would say whenever you say that and you say a lot of people underrated him, a lot of people overrate him, to me that just screams properly rated probably, that there's a healthy balance. I know you're probably referencing

I know Jackson Frank was getting flamed on Twitter last year for saying he's a top 20 player already I've never said anything as crazy as that he definitely wasn't that level last year but I think I got the most heat because I said he should be viewing in the same caliber of prospect long term as Shed Hong Green and Palo Bancaro

Bancaro I think he can also be a top 15 player in the league when he hits his prime if things go well I think he can be like a Jalen Brown level player is that overrating him to you? I don't think that's crazy to be honest with you I don't think that's crazy

It's not ridiculous It's not ridiculous I said that All right What's your next team, Donovan Uh All right We're going to go to the Orlando Magic

This is kind of like a rebirth For this guy Give me Jonathan Isaac Um I I just think like Jonathan Isaac will be born again Good job

I like that I like you got it He got it off No He 100% will be The only thing stopping Jonathan Isaac from being like first team all defense DPL wide level guy he doesn't play enough and it's obviously because he's had a million just devastating injuries year after year after

year he was healthy last year he's going to be even you know hopefully healthier and more into his you know basketball legs and all all that other stuff if Jonathan Isaac gets consistent minutes and he goes from like 20 minutes a game to 27 right pushing 30 we're going to be looking at him as one of the hands-down best defenders in the NBA. And with the magic, taking a step forward or an expected step forward from last year, they're no longer this, like, fun young team. They kind of have a couple of expectations, especially now that KCP's there. I think you're going to start getting some more visibility on Isaac.

You're going to get some more minutes. The defense is going to be crazy. And we're going to look at Jonathan Isaac at the end of the year and be like, no, he's one of like the locked down guys in the league and it's going to be proven over this next year 100% will he say healthy i don't know can he ever play 30 minutes for game i don't know if he does i agree he'll be that's all that's all i'm asking that's all i'm asking like we i think whether we've talked about like underrated because we've talked about uh we talked about isaac before and all i all i want to see from him is just basketball i nothing else right

No, I don't want to see anything else. Keep it hoops, and we will be good because you, sir, are a defensive demon. And that's, again, that's all I want. I don't need any more BR kicks post, anymore anything. Just basketball. I don't know. I don't want to know what you have for breakfast. I don't want to know what you're reading.

I don't need to know any of that. Please. I don't even hoop. Just play defense. Exactly. Don't take any shots Clamp up That's a good pick though

Yeah, I agree I don't need because I don't know Who else they have on that team I mean Anthony Black I guess Can have an up and coming year But most are guys I mean Franz Wagner If you think his three point shot comes around

That's always accounted in it Like I think everyone's kind of just waiting for him To make the all start a leap two Everyone thought it'd be last year But then he forgot how to shoot the ball So wait and see I'm nervous about his shot That's why I didn't pick him

Okay, who is your next team, B, Souls? All right. Next up, I have the Toronto Raptors, and I'm going to go Emanuel quickly for the Toronto Raptors. Okay. I actually am pretty high on quickly, on the Raptors, because, and this is going to sound crazy. Hear me out. I think there's a couple guys in the league that, like, the previous situation they were on, it just wasn't optimized for them to go off.

kind of similar to James Harden back in the day Jalen Brunson now I'm not saying that's what IQ is going to be but in terms of his situation I think Toronto is a situation where he's going to get adequate enough touches for him to take that next leap as a player so I'm expecting a decent amount of good things from Emmanuel Cookoo this upcoming season

I agree I think this is the best pick so far that like in the essence of what a breakout start is for a team Amanda quickly is the best definition that we've seen so far, I think. I know, I don't have a pull up right now, but when he went to Toronto last year, he wasn't quite efficient because obviously his job was harder and he was getting used to being that lead guard for a team, never was before. But he was averaging like 18 points and six and a half assists. Like, if you can do that for a full year and get closer to that New York efficiency, as he's more used to being a top guy with Scotty Barnes, who had the same issue post-Siacom, they both kind of became chuckers because they were in hell trying to be the top two guys.

You can only assume they get better at that. So he's exact type of guy you can look up and see an emotion-proof conversation. I miss quickly. I miss him. I miss him. Because he is. He got quiet for a second. You saw him.

I did. Damn, he's not a Nick anymore. Fuck. You miss Barrett, though? Listen, I miss Emmanuel quickly, man. Like, it's really tough. It's really tough seeing a player you like a lot, go to another team. I'm happy for RJ, but again, I miss Emmanuel quickly.

I agree though I think like having your role switch like so drastically in the middle of the season is kind of crazy and so being able to have like a full off season with RJ with Scotty get your body right right to take kind of like the physical toll of being a league guard I fully agree with you I think he's going to have a really good year yeah I kind of hope RJ Barrett keeps playing like he did last year because he was hoping i i was not shy to say r j barrett was not good when he was on the nix and he was pretty good with the raptors and we did our small four rankings i think i ranked him like 20 like that's a large improvement from what he looked like on the nick so i'm honestly i'm almost more excited to see what that looks like in year two that i am quickly like if he can be good because i know quickly and barns will be their guys and be their like lead ball handlers for their eight seed if barns can be pretty good too I mean a Barrett

They're never getting It's called Harrison Barnes That's how he really feels man The real next gen Harrison Barnes R.J. Barrett Shout out RJ Barrett Man

I'm going to see what my next team is We'll run through another quick one That isn't very interesting I had the sons of my roster I looked up and down their roster and I've decided I will not be talking with the Phoenix Suns today Donovan, who's your next team?

Oh, wow. My next team, let's go to the Milwaukee Bucks because they're also like kind of listen, this is an old-ass team. They have very little youth on their team. I think for them, honestly, like Gary Trent Jr. might be the best case

for a breakout just because if he pops and if Gary Trent Jr. is the player that they need him to be, obviously like they didn't have. have a lot of flexibility to go out and make a lot of moves to they had to rebuild their their bench through you know through minimums do stuff around the margins if gary train junior is solid for them and gives them what what they need he's going to be on that short list for like best role players in in the game he's just going to get that boost because the bucks have all have all the

expectations on them because they still have yannis and dame and they were a mess last year and still up very, very high in the conference. If it starts to look the right way and Gary Train is out there knocking down threes whenever Yannis is running a halfback dive, like that's going to be a very, very valuable skill. And he has an opportunity to be a well-known role player. And that's really all they have. I don't know if there's a real, I don't know if there's a good like breakout candidate on their team because. Bochamp, I guess. Maybe, but like. But is Doc Rivers going to play him? I don't know probably not yeah i think i think gary trant is walking into a situation where his services are needed and he's going to get the opportunity to prove that as well so yeah he kind of has the

mixture of you know foundation to be that's a good pick breakout remember early in his career on the showblazers whenever the raptor straight for him it was like applauded and it was like oh they got this interesting young player gary trant like he was viewed as like a solid prospect that's like interesting and then year by year with the raptors it just kind of dwindled and to now he's one of the role players in the NBA, as we keep referencing. Yeah, he's just, he's a guy now. It's interesting how that happens with guys around his age

where they're, like, they're promising at 22, that at 25, just yawn. You get him for the minimum now, it's crazy. But I'm with the, I think, they got him for a minimum, right? Yeah, that's crazy. Like, he's talented. Like, there's a world, I think,

where he's in a better team environment, a team, like you said, needs his skills. He can be there, honestly, go-to stopper defensively, which is horrifying if you're a Bucks fan, but, Listen, if he locks in and he can stand up to it and be the guy chasing people around screens, hit enough threes, letting Dane be more comfortable, that could be a big narrative shift for him.

I'm really interested to see the Bucks this season, man, because I think things will either be, this should be like what year one was supposed to be for them, or it's just, ooh. Yeah, it just really weren't supposed to be that good. Okay. Yeah. And honestly, really nailing, like Gary Trent and like Delon Wright that shit will help but it really just comes out of Dame like that's if it's gonna look like what we thought like you said it's gonna be

because Dame looks like 2022 Dame if he looks old and continues to look at his shape then it's gonna be rough and that we might look at Janus in a New Jersey in a couple years mm Miami ooh him and Bamada bio no yuck spacing with Jimmy Jimmy's still there oh yuck that is the most elbows thrown per team ever he won't be here he won't be there. Bamianus. That would be the stinkiest most

talented trio have I ever seen. I would hate to watch that, but it'd be effective. It might be straight clamps. It probably would be. It might be all it is. The jolof power from that duo? Oh my goodness. It would be crazy.

None of our audience is going to know what that means. It's okay. That was for me. And that was for Nogu. I only said that joke for two people Listen, Moseon will listen back to this And he's going to approve Oh, facts, three people Hold it down

All right, Breesles, what's your next team Alright man, my next team is a rival of my team The Philadelphia 76ers Okay As far as Breakout Star Jared McCain, I was thinking about it But their guard rotation may just be too deep for him to get, like, proper playing time.

Yeah. It just may not count because he's a rookie. So I'm going to go the role player route. I think Caleb Martin is going to be a sleeper pick for them, like a sleeper pick up for them this year. I was looking at their death chart, and, man, that bench is not as good as I thought it was. I don't even know what I thought it was. But I feel like this is a team that is going to need scores off the bench.

and again as a guy who's seen him a lot of times in the playoffs Caleb Martin has torched my team a lot I think he stole a ring from you by himself yes yes arguably Eastern Conference Finals MVP man crazy but yeah I think on this team there's a little bit more space for him to work off the bench compared to Miami because we were just clowning their spacing so Caleb Martin was spacing might go crazy I don't know That's a disgusting thing

I know Don't let Caleb Martin Don't let Don't let Caleb Martin Get the proper situation Like Don't let him heat up I'm just seen him before man

I know what he can be man This just Don't see one go in the bucket Oh yeah Yeah But that's a good pick Obviously they have a big three now That's gonna be

Even if Paul George takes a step back I think that'll be reliably A very effective top three team like that'll be one of the top three big threes in the league no matter what i think and we've seen that lead to absolutely nothing for a lot of teams of late because the rest of their roster has absolutely nothing going for it and if they want to duck the phoenix sun's allegations they're going to need guys like

caleb martin to come out and be really impactful cali ubrae come out continue to do his thing and be impactful so i like if kelly uh calip martin's probably the one that if it works it'll be because of him at least it's not to buy his i hope so he's just over it's over for tobias i'm it's over happy i'm very happy i'm very happy i mean it's been over but i'm just happy for him because like he's still getting money and you know what i'm all for it i'm all i'm all for it in that sense get him back to bias where is he now he's in detroit they gave him a bag they gave him a lot a lot of money

upwards of 30 million a year for to buy his agent his agent is so his agent is one of the three best that I've ever seen. It's like his agent, Harrison Barges, and then Gordon Haywards. Don't forget about Chandler Parsons. Ooh, good pick, good pick. Honorable mention. All right, my next team, let's get one of the fan favorites out of here. The Golden State Warriors. I think this one obviously comes down to two guys probably. Are you team Brandon Pajemski or John the Cominga? And I think it's a safer bet that pause is the better player, especially next year. But I think if we're talking ceiling and breakout star,

and a deep player that's capable of if everything goes right they can really hit a level that changes the outlook of your team i think we have to go kaminga yeah for sure because like like you said they like pats is obviously going to be helpful step is going to do what he where he does it it feels weird saying this they're only going to go as far as kaminga allows them to go oh god they're fucked you know like that's wrap it up that's step is going to step is going to show every single night he's going to score 27 28 points a night right ridiculous efficiency all that stuff are they ever going to get somebody who can fill that Andrew Wiggins role who can also come in score 17 to 20 feeling they he's gone he's gone he is not the same player it's never it's never

coming back he had a linsett the whole team in 2022 had a linsanity run auto porter who's never healthy was healthiest in his life. Come on. Wait, wait, not too much. Not too much. I don't disrespect. Oh, oh. Oh, my bad. Not that bad. Don't disrespect. Come on. But everybody else on that team, Jordan Poole, all of them had career years in 2022. Nobody else has been able to reach that ceiling. Cancaminga get them back to it and give Steph 0.75% or I guess 75% of a running mate. 0.75%? Can you give me nothing? Maybe. Maybe. That's your own. Only hope. I think Pods is guaranteed to be a really good player.

I think he could be like a Dante DiVincenzo type, just like an extremely helpful shooter, defender role player. Kaminga has some star upside. I'm personally not the biggest believer that he'll reset upside, but it's there because he's legitimately like an elite rim finisher. He shot 74% at the rim this year, which is incredible. Like it's legit, extremely good. He just has to do everything else well.

He has to be a consistent shooter, which he hasn't done to date. It's been very up and down. And defensively, you know, we talk about DeAndre Aden. He's been a guy just kind of stands there. He's a very apathetic, non-active defender. He's kind of the 6-9 DeAndre Aden defensively. He kind of just stands there. Doesn't get involved in passing lanes.

Doesn't get involved in passing lanes. Doesn't provide a ton of weeks that help with the rim. Just not a very impactful defender in any way. And either that, the shooting, or the passing. Ideally, two of those things. At least one of those things have to become above average. And if that happens, I think this is the legit path of him being an extremely helpful player, But, man, I'm not getting my hopes up for anything involved in the Golden State Warriors this year.

They got to trade the young guys, man. I'm sorry because I think they are one of the teams in the league that has to pick a direction. But I think they've chosen their direction of just we're going to ride out Steph Curry's career and Dremont's career as long as they want to stay here. But if that's the path that I are choosing, I just don't see the reason for Kaminga and B pods and even like Moses Moody to be on there. Like, let's get some win now guys in here, man. I know what it is. I think they're fucked either way. I think I don't even know what win now guys can save it.

No amount of riding curry is going to make them like super relevant anymore. Like I think they're screwed either way. But my thing is it's just put your best foot forward if you're going to, you know what I'm saying? Try to try to win another one with Steph. Like, Kaminga is not cutting it. Respect for you. And you know who agreed and tried to scam them? Danny Aange.

He tried. But it didn't work. But he saw the riding the wall just like you do. And he tried to get everything he could for Larry Mark. but thankfully they're not too dumb about it yeah right man they're hopeless let's uh let's fly through some of the teams that aren't that relevant start doing two at a time if you guys have like one good or one bad one uh all right i'll go i'll go here so with the cabs not really for in my opinion not really like a breakout guy i would say uh isa acoro i just want to see him i want to see him

maintain the shooting success that he had last year and i just want to know if it was real because he jumped from being a 36% three-point shooter to being a 39% three-point shooter. If we can get a little bit more volume, right, around the same efficiency, now we're cooking, right? And you can actually be here as opposed to being actively detrimental to the offense, the way that he was like two years ago. I, that's all I want to see from Isaac Okoro. Again, I think that their roster is also very like, when now you want to see Darius Garland come back up, but that's more about injury rather than break it out.

so yeah i was gonna say this doesn't make sense but hear me out i think the answer is darius garland that's her breakout start for this year yeah that's again again part it's more it's more positive regression because i still i still do think that darius garland is a good basketball player like it's not my fault that he got you know knocked knocked around in the face the way that he did last year so um yeah it's it's a quarrel for me uh as as my next team and then We'll go two at a time. Another one from this division. This is a free space.

You know how I'm bingo? You got the middle one where you could pick anything. The Detroit Pistons. Can anybody break out? Can anybody show me something that you guys are moving? Throw a stone. Find a breakout star. Cade, can you show me something?

I know it's not your fault. I need to see something. Asar, can you shoot anything? Can Ron Holland shoot? That's going to be big. What is Jada and I'm going to do? Is Jalen Dernan going to figure stuff out? Like, there's so many questions on the.

the on the pistons where I just don't know how to properly evaluate their situation and if we can get one person on this roster who can give me some hope for the next three years I will take it but I don't have a like legitimate candidate that I can point to and say they will do this next year man fuck that this has to be the year where Kay Cunningham makes a star leave if Kay Cunningham is not near all star level this year if he's not averaging 24 points and eight assists we got to stop giving him the benefit of the doubt like i'm holding that near all-star last year i think he was fine last year i guess i mean they were at a 25 game losing street but him playing every game sure production was there though man not too much on big kate sort of big kate

big oh my god now if i say if i say i'm still higher on kade than palo go big kate is crazy i'm sorry hey hey listen i you won't get yelled that i'll say that but But I'm with you. I'm very high on Cade. I'm holding out hope. The situation is ridiculous. And I believe there's something in there of an elite player. But there's only so many years you can believe that and put it on the success.

I mean, put it on the team as a reason it's not. I talk about that a lot with Palo that I say people give him too much of a pass for no spacing when we have to acknowledge he has some flaws in this game that he's legit, just not the good of a rim finisher. And it's not everything to do with the spacing. At a certain point, the same thing will have to be said with Kay Cunningham.

Again, the worst situation in the league by far, but eventually you have to find a way to become above it otherwise you might just not be an elite player I feel it I feel it all right I'm next right yep all right so for my two teams just a real quick one

I want to shout out the New York Knicks I don't see any of them having like a breakout season because similar to the other teams just they're in win now mode I would like to see how OG and Mikkel play with Jalen Brunsen for a full season maybe one of them can break out So I'm going to go the role player route here

Depending on the starting lineup that they roll out I really do think they're going to need a bucket off the bench And Miles McBride can be that guy For the New York Knicks So I'm going to go Miles McBride for the Knicks As far as another team that I want to mention Kind of similar to the Pistons I'm going with the Houston Rockets

And again maybe it's a bad pick because he's a rookie But I just need one of their young guys To break out similar to the Pistons Because I think Sengoon separated himself from the crowd last season. But this season, one of Jabari, one of Jalen Green, Amen Thompson, Reed Shepard, Cam Whitmore, one of them needs to break out. And my pick may be the rookie. It may be Reed Shepard, man.

I don't know. I really like what I saw from Reed Shepard. That's a good pick. I'm with you. Right when the draft was on, we did a live stream for the draft. And I said that if there's anybody in this class that I think is going to be sneakily an all-star. surprise people, it's going to be Re Shepherd.

I think he's the guy that has that kind of ceiling that people don't necessarily expect to come into the league because he looks like an accountant and doesn't strike you as insane athlete that can dominate the league. But he's a pretty good athlete, an amazing shooter, a very good passer, and all those things are precisely what they need, because all other players you mentioned are long athletes with questionable jumpers, questionable handles, questionable passing, everything that he does well, the other teams need, other players need, so even if one of those other guys makes a leap, whether it be a man, whether it finally is Jalen Green,

can maybe Camelmer surprises us. Every single outcome that's not him, Ritch Shepherd can still thrive in alongside them, whereas some of the other guys kind of step on each other's toes a little bit. Yeah, I think at this point, if I were to pick two, because like you said, like it's getting kind of crowded. In Houston, if I were to pick two, it would be either Reed Shepherd or it would be a Menn Thompson

as one of the two guys that's going to break out. I'm fully on a Menn Thompson Island. you know fan club whatever it is like i i think that that would have been my pick but i don't i don't hate the repick at all especially because they do they do need shooting for real so yes he will be he will be lighten it up it could easily be jalen green too i ain't going to lie after it's like it has to be jailin green or he's cooked it has to be it really does this i think this is last year where i'm like because it's not even like cade where he's in the worst situation in the league he is not in the worst situation in the lead um and i did see a lot from jaylin

Green in the latter half of last season. I think it was January. He was putting up like Kobe numbers and they went on like that crazy winning streak. If he can be that for next season, then again he's easily the answer, but I'm gonna just wait and see. No, yeah. Listen, April Jalen Green is

the answer. As in he is Alan Iverson. He is amazing every April. And if he could be that, he will be a perennial all star. But I would like to see it for the other 11 months of the year. It's so fake. It's just not. He's just not. not going to break out i'm so sorry i'm planting my flag i've done it before i would do it again he

i i don't believe in it i think that if somebody i think if somebody shows you who they are you're going to have to believe them and he clearly is a guy who is unsurious for a majority of the season and then he'll turn it on he he will he will turn it on in february for eight games and then in march for 10 and in april for the last two weeks but i don't think we're going to get a full season of jalen green being elite score from october to april i just don't see that happening and uh yeah i don't i don't necessarily see elite score i think there's a world where he's a decent player and he has a role in the NBA but i just think that the ceilings of reed and amend are so much better and so much more complimentary to sangoon that i'm hoping that the that the front office agrees and goes that route

and gives them the opportunity because i feel like jalen green has such a large leash with just the cache he's had being the first guy that core there that like they really want him to be that guy I feel like every time we look up in the news and we see a report from inside the organization I don't know that they had the most confidence in Sangoon or they don't want him to be the face he's kind of just like thrust himself into that role I think they very much want Jalen Green to be Kobe yeah yeah and I want a lot of things doesn't make it sure it makes sense there's a lot of shit I want doesn't make it possible at all I wish he does man he's half Filipino, man. I'm rooting for Jalen Green.

Oh, he is? You got a jersey? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Shut out. Shout out. There you go. Salute. All right, my next team, let's get.

I'll do both Los Angeles teams at once at the Lakers and the Clippers. The Lakers, obviously, if you guys have heard the show at all since the draft, you know for a fact. I'm going, Dalton Connect. I think Dalton Connect is exactly what this Lakers team needs. And it's more so they haven't really no other options besides, I guess, Cam Christie, who should be in a better role this year, but he's just Cam Christie. I think this team, since the LeBron era, has almost never had a legitimately, like, threatening spacer. They've had some good spot of shooters.

They have had Danny Green, KCP, and some other people along the lines that are good shooters. But they've never had, like, a legit, elite shooter. And they've just never prioritized that as something they chase. And Dalton Connect might not be that, but he also might be. He might not be Clay Thompson, but he also might be. He might be fantastic. And if everything goes well and, you know, he's an older rookie, he should be able to contribute right away.

If he can be a 40% three-point shooter that can move off ball, not just be a spot-up guy, legitimately runoff screens, use some of the athleticism he has to get to the rim and create attack and closeouts. I think he could add a dimension to that team we haven't seen since 2020. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if he'd look up and he's starting by the end of year. Listen, we're at the part of the season where games haven't started yet.

So I can't tell you that you're wrong, right? I can't, I can't tell you that Dalton Connect can't be that. But all the stuff that we talked about like with his skill set and then also being coached by JJ Redding. Yep. And him having the other, you know, white boy shooter that can draw up exactly the play that that Connect needs can tell him exactly how to play his position and his role. Like it's going to be very, very helpful. for him so i do think that the lakers that's probably that's one of like the top two or three steals of draft night was the lakers getting connect and it might be one so you're telling me the

the first pick the lakers making the j j reddick era is just finding a j jreddick for the yeah yeah there's no coincidence okay i like you know what he's gonna drop plenty of plays because he's in look at dalton connect and be like damn what if i could jump 38 inches in the air That's who this guy is Like I wish I was him And he's gonna try to make him be the guy And it's gonna work He's playing vicariously

Do you know Like why could not dung like that fuck That would I average 22 Yeah I mean Honestly there's no other good options Other Los Angeles team The Clippers Again I'm not great options

But I do like this pick Because it's again I'm cheating I'm not really I'm not sticking to the spirit Of the award you're giving out I think it's James Harden I was thinking he was going to say that man West Darien's Garland pick

I like it Listen He is viewed right now As being washed as fuck Last year he was tertiary as hell He was passive He was passing the ball He knew his role in this team

And he played it It was not to be a score by any means And I think that has led everybody to believe That he cannot be a score by any means that he is just completely out of the possibility of ever averaging 22 points per game ever being a guy that can lead an offense again in any meaningful way.

And I don't really think it's the case. I think he's still capable of scaling up a little bit when needed. I think we'll see a redemption of sorts of his perception around the league, I think this year when he's asked to do more next to Kauai. Because even when he was on Philly,

he was doing a little bit better he did last year. He was very on ball, but they were still playing through Joel and Bede and they had a very effective pick and role but it wasn't like very conducive to James Hard eating as a score

and I think that's exactly what's no need for this team they're gonna just they're gonna need him to because Kauai's gonna miss a bunch of games and it's gonna be him Norman Powell and Derek Jones Jr. They're taking turns

and only one of those guys brings any sort of excitement you gotta be soles oh okay well I'm gonna agree I agree I agree man listen

I hit that sound board I think a lot of people after they lost Paul George were very low on the clippers. They just lost Paul George. This is the year they fall off. But that's how basketball works, man. Sometimes less is more. And giving James Hardin one of the best on-ball creators The Rock, even in Big 2024, that's going to be fun. I think they're going to be a sleeper team.

Now are they going to win a championship? Hell no. But, no, I actually agree with that, man. We might see, I don't know about 2018, 2019 Hardin. Oh, fuck, no. But 2021, 2021 Hardin was tough too. Maybe like first year, Philly Hardin. Maybe.

Yeah, exactly. He can average 22.5, 23 points per game, close to leading the league and assist, leading a top eight offense in the league. Like, that's a solid, low-level all-star player. And he was that even a couple years ago. Last year was the first year, he really did below that. And if he is cooked and it becomes not true, it's because he just can't get to the rim at all.

Last year, his room frequency dropped to 19% of his shots, down from 25th the year before that, 34 the year before that. That's typically the sign of aging. You can't get to the room at all. You can't blow by your guy. But again, I think a big part of that is just the role he played. He was spotting up a lot more.

He was keeping the ball moving a lot more, wasn't necessarily trying to ISO as much as he used to. I think there's a balance there where, yes, he probably isn't athletically what he once was, not even probably, he's clearly not. And he's not going to be nearly as reliable self-creating. But you can do more than he did last year. I can guarantee that.

Whatever that balance is, he can take a step forward. I am on board with you, Isaac. I'm on board. I love it. I'm glad you are because I don't know him would have just shamed me to death. I'm still, listen, I'm not a big Clippers fan generally. And then even coming into this year, I still don't think that they're going to be amazing. I'm workshopping how I feel about them.

So I'm not going to say exactly what I think. And we will, I'll let you know closer to the season. but I think both of you guys are way off. TBD. I'm still, I'm still, I'm still, I'm fighting through my biases right now. I'm trying to, I'm trying to make sure, like, do I think they actually suck or do I just hate them? Like, I'm, you kind of, I'm going in between those two things. You have never seen a bias in your life that you've cared to fight that much.

You've embraced them with all your hearts. That's not true. You've big old hugs. I'm mad at who your next teams? I think I'm right a majority of the time. What can I say? All right. For the Bulls, give me modest boozealous.

I think that they got their breakout star last year in Kobe White. Then they brought in somebody who's trying to break in, right, and not really do much in Josh Giddy. I don't think that he's going to be productive in the ways that they want him to be. And I look around on that roster. Demar is gone. You can't really trade. Zach Levine, I don't know what you're going to get out of him, and it's not going to be some wild, like, redemption story for Zach Levine.

If we're talking about young players who I think can come in instantly make an impact, I think Maddo Zellis can be. And I think the entire, the entire question about him is, if he can shoot, this is an all-star. If he can't, he's going to find some type of role. Right now, I'm going to put a little bit of faith into his shot. I think it's going to come around And I'm going to put my trust in him I think that modest is going to be really, really good

I knew you're going to say this As soon as you got the Bulls Just because I remember back to that time Where we interviewed him And he said he loves Carmelo Anthony And you dapped him up And I was like There's never going to be a day

Where Dom doesn't ride for him No, he's my guy for a light Listen, he can shoot 16% from three last Next season And I'm going to be like just give him time You know like listen He's a bucket I promise Exactly. He just needs a little bit of time, a little bit of work in the offseason. It's going to be okay.

But yeah, now, I mean, you're right. As soon as he said that, cemented. Like, locked in. We're locked in. I get a... But yeah, but yeah, that's my pick for the Bulls. I get a lot of allegations in the comments for liking every white player. Oh, my God. And I just hate that it's true. Because I love Modus Pouselis. Oh, my goodness. First was Reed Sheppard, now modest. I'm like, damn, ironically, my favorite players in this class are modest Reed and Zach Edie, the lightest motherfuckers in the top 15. And he just gassed up Dalton Connett, too, so.

Oh, my God. Four before. I just sprinkled Isaiah Collier love in there just to keep balanced. Affirmative action on NBA fandom is a little bit crazy. D.E.I. Collier Love. Oh, man. I just don't know who's going to break out on the Bulls, man. Like Kobe White had his season.

Maybe he has another leap, though. So I don't. Another one? Another one. I don't know. I think that he's like, he's good and it's definitely a real jump. But I also think that his jump was primarily because of opportunity and you got a lot of people out the paint.

And I don't, I don't know if he has a ceiling that can take him to another level because he was already, you know, like near and, you know, he's like near and. near 20 points like at that at that range do you think that Kobe white can be like a 24 point per game score with like seven or eight assists like I don't I don't know if that's where his scoring teaming is man listen are we going to talk about Josh giddy or not no no he got Josh kiddies on this no no he actively hurt I guess we are but he actively hurt the best team or one of the best teams in the NBA last season I'm not going to I don't expect anything good or productive from Josh Giddy going into this next year.

Me neither. It's hard. Nor am I rooting for it. But I won't be surprised if, listen, like, somebody has touched the ball and he's a better fit anywhere besides next to Shea and J-dub. So I won't be shocked if there's some, like, fake 18 and 7 stat line that everyone's like, whoa, all Josh Giddy needed was his own team. Like, that won't be surprising me if we find that part of the season and we all have to deal with it. That's not like year two, Josh Giddy. Yeah, exactly.

That's still Josh Giddy. I won't be shocked if we get back to that level of hype. Yeah. So that's my pick for the bull. The second team that we'll run through, give me the Miami Heat. I'm going with Nikoliovich. I think it's a very, very easy progression.

I think that for the heat, they need some youth on their roster. And you lose Caleb Barton, you lose somebody who can play, you know, that wing position. he even play the four i think nikoliovich all he needs is just more minutes and now that now that jimmy is really like in and out the the lineup a lot a lot and it seems like every single year they're missing you know 30 games from their key guys i think that yovich is going to have plenty of

opportunity to solidify himself as like one of the core members of this team and i think that he's he's just next up they don't really have a they have also have a very very weird timeline and yovitch is like the young guy on on their team so i'm going him kella where remember the name yeah i was i was thinking about him i forget i actually forgot about keller he's gonna be great but i will still go with yovitch so he's a player that definitely i went that listen i don't really go a fuck about summer league typically but occasionally there's a player that i see i'm like how can i not like you more That was him this year.

He was incredible in Summer League. Yeah, no. Domo, my friend Damo was really mad the Lakers didn't pick him. Like, he really wanted the Lakers to pick Kolo where. What was the concerns on him out of the job? They said he had like a low motor. Yeah, they say he doesn't give a fuck. He's just like low motor, like just out there running around.

Well, guess what? There's one thing that Pat Riley does. He makes people care. So like KeloWare, he's going to be locked in. That's the thing that. was holding people back i trust pat riley and i trust bolstra to put the battery in his back i've only i've only seen it not work one time that they haven't been able to get somebody to be like high motor like that and that was hasan white side but outside of that outside of that everybody else who goes

down there is like yeah like you know i'll buy into the program so i'm i'm cool with that pick okay what if he's the next asan white side man that would be tragic that would be crazy That would suck. I wouldn't like it. Who are your next teams, man? All right. So I'm going to go with the Dallas Mavericks next. And I feel like this one's pretty easy as well. I am going to go Derek lively.

Yeah. I think what we saw in the playoffs last season, he may have just straight up stole that starting center spot from Daniel Gafford. And the main thing that was interesting to me in the playoffs is people bringing up, like he has a potential to develop a shot throughout his career. And he did hit that one three in the final. that looked really nice. Now, is this the year he develops that shot?

I just don't know. But long story short, I think he's a guy. He's Lucas big moving forward at the end of the day. That's a very valuable thing to be. Yeah, which is a very valuable thing to be. The live threat next to Luca and to develop into one of the best room protectors in the league, I think that's a very valuable player specifically when you're next to Luca. Yeah, there's certain roles in sports that you have like a very high floor by just being

associate with the guy. Like fantasy football, everyone's like, listen, he's my home's receiver. They're going to have value. Whatever, we got to pick them.

That's what's going to be like with big men next to Luca. You're going to get big. You're going to get seven dunks a game because Luca just throws it up there and nobody's around. Like, that's a very safe person to bet on.

And even outside of that, he's so good, man. He's going to have more and more responsibility, show that passing more and more, continue to develop defensively. I don't even know what a comparison is because I feel like San D'Andre Jordan is like an easy thing to say

for any big that doesn't, and shoot but I almost feel like it's like a low ceiling for him yeah if that's the comp if that's the comp that's the comp it's so I think you'd be better and that's who's a better version that's fine that's fine he doesn't have to be like a I think like when people say like comps you don't have to be the exact player but that is that is your archetype you have shades of DeAndre jordan when you play with with Luca donchitz and especially if all you have to do is you know just jump up and catch the ball that's that's fine and like if you put we have to have conversations about prime dandre jordan but but if you but if you put

options like that i love the off season you know but if you put options like that next to good passers good things are going to happen you see it all all around the league where where these porn guards have lot threats and it just makes everything fit so yeah if if derrick lively can be deandre jordan like or even better you know the maps are set up for the next 10 years of having an insane duo, so it's fine. Yeah. If that's what you want to call them. I don't, but I respect it.

And then my next team, this may be the biggest hit or miss out of all my picks, is the Memphis Grizzlies, and I pick Zach Eadie. Let's go. He's one of us. I don't know. I feel like going into the draft, a lot of the people I was talking to was pretty low on Zach Eadie, but this may be a case of people just overthinking, like, 100% and specifically on the Grizzlies they are in this phase where they're still a young

team in the league but they really are like they really want to compete now and Zach Edie and his post scoring I feel like could add a different dimension to their offense that they just haven't had um so depending on how Zach Edie is off off rip which one one thing that a lot of people do give him credit for is being you know more NBA ready because of the fact that he's played in college for so long. Zach Eadie may be a guy that becomes really valuable to the Grizzlies, or he becomes a slow-footed big man that everyone was afraid of. And you know what I'm saying?

Just doesn't belong on the NBA court because of how slow he is. I can't let this scenario be spoken to existence. It's impossible. Yeah, no. I like Zach Eadie, though. Me too. I love him. I've been telling everybody that will listen on the show,

if you're a betting man, I'm really not. But if you are and you decide to make long-term prop bets, go put your money on Zach Eadie for rookie of the year. That is a luck. They're going to be a top four seat at worst. They're in that upper echelon with other Western conference teams. And him as a starting center is going to be so much more impactful as a rookie than anybody else in this class, being a contributing player to a top team that could be in the Western Conference finals.

He has everything that complements what Jha does. He's a great screen setter. He can roll the rim better than people think. An amazing offensive rebounder that cleans up well. And then his weaknesses is everything that Jaron Jackson can do well. So they're just a perfect compliment there that it's just, like you said, textbook overthinking and people pay so much attention to the downsides that they ignore the ridiculous upsides and top tier skill sets that we only see from like top three picks.

Yeah. Listen, I'm locked in. I'm locked in. Any propaganda you want to get off? No. Do you guys have said it all? I'm on the grizzlies. I've been a grizzlies, you know, I guess a believer for the last two years.

I think that Zach Edy, like, is going to give Jha. It's going to be very interesting over the next couple of years to see who sets, this is real sickle talk, who sets better screens between Zach Edy and Stephen Adams? Because either way, it's going to be at the top of the league. But Jaws just going to get this runway to run, to run, you know, halfback diving to just go straight to the rim. And it's going to be amazing. So, yeah, I'm rocking with Chal's pick. I like Zach Ead.

That's that real hoop talk, man. Who's a better screener? They don't understand Stephen Adams. Let's talk about it. They don't understand screen assist. They don't want that. Oh, but when I mention Rudy Gober's screen assist, you're going to throw up. Hey, hey, we don't talk about him.

Let's come on now. Let's be reasonable. Oh, my God. All right, man. Next two teams I got, let's see, I got two interesting teams and two boring teams left. Let's be 101. For the Nuggets, absolutely fucking nobody. So I put Dayron Holmes because he would have been a breakout player.

player for them, but he tore his ACL, which sucks, because he would have been so important for them as a backup five that could play next to Yokic in some minutes. So I think we're going to have to wait a calendar year to see it. But next season, in 2026, Holmes is going to be exactly what the Nuggets need. Because right now, I think the primary backup center is going to be Dario Sarich, who is a fine player. I would not be excited if he was the backup center for my team. Doesn't move me at all defensively, and they need all the help they can get, all the spacing they can get. And if you need size and spacing, draft homes that's exactly what he brings and it sucks so much these hurt men man man they closed

yokage's window quickly they shut that thing down they tweeted out an official depth chart yesterday and i was like fuck who are some of these guys it's like their third string point guard i'm like who is this i don't want to rely on 2k too much for my basketball knowledge but bro i play 2k25 with the nuggets oh that death chart is bad man ah And Julian Strother It better be Julian Strother He needs to be a guy that really breaks out big He's such an unknown

He has shown him some flashes If it hasn't gotten to an opportunity If it can be him Then they can be saved But if him and Christian Brown Don't do something serious They're cooked You're not high on a Peyton Watson though

I know a lot of Nuggets fans are high on him I mean I would be If he wasn't Jared Vanderbilt And like he wasn't You know like I also love Jerry Vanderbilt's defense and his flexibility with that size to guard multiple positions. But if you can't shoot, you can't play in the playoffs.

And the Denver Nuggets is the team that made that most apparent by just ignoring him when they played the Lakers and forcing Anthony Davis's likes to be a hell because there's two guys in the paint. It's not as easy to do that against Nikola Yokish because he's the best passer in the world and can shoot so it's a little bit different. But if you play too much Peyton Watson,

you're going to get the same treatment unless he develops a three-point shot. So it's kind of like I said with Julian Strother. If that development comes, then great. He'll be really useful and save their season, but it's a big if. yeah okay and my second team which one don't want to do next

let's go with the Kings I feel like the conventional answer everybody would ever say is Keegan Murray but I think the addition of Demard Rosen makes it very unlikely that Keegan Murray

makes any type of jump next year I think he'll kind of be the same player was last year which is very good he had a great defensive jump last season three-point shooting wasn't quite as good but I think he'll kind of return to the normal we saw the year before that and to be a very good three and D forward

so I'm not picking him because I'm expecting to be the same I'm going to go Devin Carter Another older rookie I think if you draft an older rookie in the top 15 I'm typically going to expect a lot To come out of that at the rookie year And he's the type of guy that just fits perfectly what they need

They You look at their bench and their guards They have Keon Ellis He's a very good player Not necessarily a creator And Devin Carter is also going to be A defensive-oriented guard Like Keon Ellis

Like old dude, what's his name I forget he's not on the team anymore Daveon Mitchell But I think he actually has the ability To create it on shot get to the rim do a little bit more self-creation and it can kind of be like a little bit of Malik Monk

mixed with a little bit of Davey on Mitchell which is a fucking awesome player I'm sorry I'm just not excited about the Kings this year Me neither I'm sorry I'm trying to Did they close their window you think? With DeMarre? Was the window ever open? Yeah I don't remember

I don't know if y'all remember like the light the beam season the way people were talking about the kings being the future to West. I think Draymond even went on his own podcast and said like, yeah, I see a lot of us in them, you know, so bonus is me. Deeran is Curry. And I'm just like two years later, not even that, just a year later. Listen to that sentence though. Deeran is Curry. Any thought that starts with that is like, good Lord, what are you talking about? But the hype in 20, what was that, two? Yeah, 22. It was really like that, man. It was making a wish hype up. They had sucked.

they had sucked for 25 years and this is the first time that they had been like legitimately good since 2000 right and now and also the light the beam stuff is also like very fun and everybody good PR and everybody and everybody before the season also was making fun of the kings whenever they announced X they're like oh they're never going to light the beam and then they come out and they and they have which is very funny but then they come out and they have an actual successful season I don't think that could have been looked at any way else other than great story we'll see if you guys can do it again next year and they couldn't you're right that excitement was there and it's for all the reasons donovan just said it was new it was exciting sub bonus was blossoming in a way we didn't really see in the Pacers because it's playing that's another big and I think typically when a team breaks out most people assume that that progress can just keep going is going to keep being linear they can keep getting better they're just getting started when sometimes they just are who they are, and Sabonis is 26, Darren's 25, they're close to how good they're going

to be forever. And unless you have a young guy like a Keegan Murray that can make a huge jump and be like this star you add into the mix in year two, that person has to hit. And Keegan is a very good player, but he wasn't the star that they kind of hoped he would be. So you just kind of, you have very limited shots of the apple. I'm not shots of the apple. It's not an expression. Very limited shots to take to try to find those tertiary players when your team that's in the middle of the draft and if you don't hit them and the guys are just good then it's really hard to imagine getting that ceiling that you once hoped yeah i think they're a team that's going to be like a perennial playoff team in the west just because like the air nance a bonus and the rest of the guys

are too talented to not be like ass in the west but there may be like the new trailblazers they're a western conference playoff team but are they really like challengers to the to the thunder to the Nuggets or like the Mavs not really oh who we're talking about a lot when we went on let's keep it a buck i remember we were talking about subonis versus some other defensive big and i was like i would easily rather have the defensive big y'all were cooking subonis man yeah it was and i was like you're never going to win with him on your team like every playoffs we're got the same conversation and the rest of your co-host were letting me have it they were not happy with it i don't remember who we were talking about who was it i don't know was it jaron oh was jarring

jr jr jr jr jr jr jr i think honestly i don't remember i just remember us cooking bonus that whole part that's what I do remember that's all I remember to you it was like Jared and I was like if I want to build a team that wants to accomplish something I'm gonna pick Jared Jackson without thinking twice and that's how I feel still because it's the bonus is hard to win with listen it's very it's a very consistent take from you so like that right next to teams uh let's go here I will go with the Charlotte Hornets and for me the breakout player is Brandon Miller I think I think I think Brandon Miller had a very, very good rookie season, and I think that he's going to break out for two

reasons. One, just natural progression. I think, obviously, you've been in the league for one year. You're going to kind of figure stuff out, right? We can see if you can be more efficient. Two, also out of necessity, I don't know how many games Lamello Ball is going to play. I don't know if he's going to be there, and I do think that Brandon Miller is going to be on the court. And so somebody's going to have to take the shot. Somebody's going to have to see a lot. lot of what you know a lot of the primary coverages from from the defense I think Brandon Miller is stepping into that role and if Lamello once again is like if his ankles break on him again then I don't know what to say and it's we're just going to

look at at Brandon be like I I guess you got it you know but but if Lamello's healthy and now we have this duo of Lamello and Brandon Miller that is very intriguing to me and I think that that is something that the hornets can take and build on and try to start to do something better yeah Don't Mark Williams in there, too. If those three guys since they're healthy, two of which are never healthy,

they can be legit. They can be towards the playing race. Listen, last year I said they would be the nine seed. Terrible, terrible fucking take. I expect them to be healthy and be good. They were neither of those things. I still believe it's possible

if everything goes well. But the sad part is nothing goes well for this team. So I'm done predicting anything good. I'm really high on Brandon Miller. I feel like this next upcoming season, this may be the season where we start having conversations

about like, Who is the guy we're actually building around between Lamello or Brandon Miller? And that won't be crazy because Lamello's inconsistencies and unreliability health-wise. Yeah. If Brandon Mild looks like he's also going to be All-Star's Qualiber, like that's not ridiculous. It's not ridiculous at all. All right, my next team, I will go with the Washington Wizards. I have two names here.

One of them is Corey Kisper. The other name is just Alex R. I just think that you have to see something massive from from Alexar and you're going to the same way that that you were talking I forget who you were talking about earlier but you said he had the tools but they were locked away in the toolbox I saw him what Alexar oh yes okay cool perfect I need to I need to know if the tools are available to him like offensively or defensively to be any lead player on one side of the ball this is a like we always talk about for bad teams The first thing that you need to do before you start to rebuild or do anything, figure out what direction you're going and then we can start doing something, right? You don't just want to be wandering in the middle of nowhere and now you're an NBA purgatory. I think that if Alexar comes out and he shows some flashes and we can see like, oh, no, this is actually somebody that we don't really have to be worried about, especially because we have other projects on the team like Bilau. if somebody can come in and be a little bit more ready

then we're good so I'm going Alexar and then Corey Kisper I just think listen he's just a nice role player and it's he's cool like I don't know I just I just like Corey Kisper I think more people will understand He's filling the Denny shoes of random Wizards player that every NBA

nerd is like listening is bad than you think yeah exactly exactly so yeah that was SGA for a minute and then he proved it And then he actually proved it then. Many of them don't. No, Jordan Poole of, though?

Oh, Lord. All right. Listen, I don't want to be too mean. I don't know. I don't really bigged up Camp Thomas. We don't got to do it twice. We picked one and we ran out with it. We only have so many quotas we can hit of bucket getters.

We can big up. Yeah. I feel it. I feel it. We're your last two teams, souls. My last two teams are the New Orleans Pelicans. And for them, I was having trouble choosing between Trey Murphy or Herb Jones. Yeah.

I'm leaning towards Trey Murphy. Yeah, pick both. Fuck it. But between them, I think I am leaning towards Trey. Just because this last season, Herb did get, like, accolades. Like, he was first team all defense, so he did get recognition. But Trey, being an athletic wing, who can really shoot the three ball, and he's only 23 years old. Yeah, I really think he can be one of.

the better role players in the league and depending on how they utilize him he may be more than a role player like the pelicans I think they're a really good team they just they just need a healthy Zion man I swear just one season of healthy Zion they can at least make it to the second round I'm clapping

you know it pisses me off man we got it we got to we had it we got through 182 games I'm saying and then as soon as it matters he looks like God and then his legs fall off the quintessential Zion experience he rises the highest level you've ever seen him play and we're like oh my God there's not 10 players better than this

and his leg falls off in the same game. I hate life. You're going crazy that game, man. Trap. But no, I agree. Last year I was saying that if they don't enter this coming season with Trey Murphy as a full-time starter,

it'll be the biggest mistake that any team could make this season. And, you know, to do that, they need to offload somebody. They need to get rid of one of their key starters. And they decided to add a new keystarter on the perimeter and make him even more buried than he was before.

And it's an outrageous decision to add to Johnthe Murray and not get rid of one or two other pieces. So I'm still with you. I'm waiting for the Trey Young jump. I mean, Trey Murphy jump. I feel like they don't want me to see it. Like they're trying not to give it to me.

It's ridiculous. The pelicans are the example of less is more. Like they need, or they're the main one to listen to it. Like they need to ship a whole bunch of people out because all of us. Everybody can see what's happening in front of us. Like you know when somebody is really, really good and Trey Murphy is showing everybody that he can actually who he just needs the opportunity

and they won't they refuse to give him a chance to be the starter so trade somebody and get get Trey Murphy in the starting life and like it's simple but it's not because these type of moves don't grow on trees but like if you can just trade bannon ingram for some kind of stretch five or even if it's not a stretch five some kind of competent good five that's it that's the move you need to make like it would be so perfect no obviously there's not there's not exactly stretch five is available every single everywhere you look but if you can find one

it'll be so good and even if you can't Brandon Bram has to be the one moved it's so clear 100% and then my last team is going to be

the San Antonio Spurs now is this player really gonna break out I'm still kind of if yon it just because of the rotation and the guards on the team

so I guess it's more of a want than an actual prediction but Stefan Castle man really really high on Stefan Castle I hope he gets serious touches this year but I don't know if he's going to be playing behind Chris Paul Devin Vassell is on the team as well

but I really do think Stefan Cassoe moving forward is their point guard of the future and him and Vic they have the potential to be something crazy and I don't even know who they're going to pick in next year's draft if they are in the lottery still so yeah this is though he's definitely the biggest swing for them right now

which it's kind of annoying because they had two top ten picks I only kept picked one guy and it's the guy that is a I don't know it's safe to say he's one of the bigger works in progress

with the jump shot that kind of like you gotta have a lot more patience with him so it's a bit anti-climatic when we're like oh two top-thin picks

are gonna completely change their team and now this guy can be behind Chris Paul so it's a bit annoying but I agree if he hits and he can be

this like top tier guard defender not Drew Holiday or anything but like below that whatever that may be like Prime Eric Bletzel guard defender while having some abilities

of the ball in his hands to get to the rim and pass a little bit that that changes the team right because even if you have Vassel who can be your go-to scoring guard you get you need a guard defender next to that since Vassel is not exactly a stopper like he fits everybody so well doesn't take away from any of their other young prospects that's exactly type of a guy that his rookie season will tell you a lot about the future of this team I agree yeah yeah and I think like playing behind Chris Paul Chris Paul is old like he's not going to be able to dominate the the the same way that that he has you know in years past like you'll probably see a little bit more

I guess playing with you know playing with Chris Paul He can defend threes You can Loki start them all Yeah so there's there's avenues to where you can get You can get Chris Paul's playmaking And you can get Castle and still allow him To get that experience and those reps on the floor

So I Like I said he's the he's the swing factor for the for the spur So I don't hit that pick either Love it man All right my last two teams first up I have who I have first the Timberwolves this is interesting

last year I would have said Jada McDaniels I had a lot of faith in him taking like a jump as a ball handler and really having some secondary scoring to him I didn't have a great year in that regard to excite me for that to continue to be a thing he improves on

I think he might just be a good 3&D guy which is fine he's a great defender great player so I'm gonna go Rob Dillingham which is the easy pick the exciting pick again we got to pick some bucket getters. We got to go on the side of fun, on the side of just just get a bucket between the legs, do all the shifty shit he does. It's exactly what they

need off the bench. He can play with the starters. He can play as a six man. He has the shooting to play on ball, off ball, play next to Anthony Edwards, playing next to Mike Conley. We'll see what the defense looks like as a rookie because he is a very small man, very, very slender for NBA standards. We'll see if you can say in front of guys. But if he can and if he can contribute in the playoffs at all, that gives him a dimension that can really change. their outlook, especially for a team that's already so close, they're already within striking distance of making the finals in a year. If you can get a guy that comes in and is immediately one of the best bench scorers in the league can be here in manual quickly, that can change some shit

for you. We've seen, we've seen Ant already have these games where he's six of 22, right? He's not shooting well. And they're remembered because they won and he was able to play really good defense, you're still going to need people to score down the stretch. You're still going to need people who can carry the offense if we're in the middle of a game and ants missing five, six shots in a row. I think that between, between, like, between Rob and, actually, you know, it really is just, just Rob. Like, I think that he is the one for them. And I think that, like, that them being aggressive in the draft and going out and getting him, I think that that that was a great move by the Tim Wolves.

I know that you had concerns earlier about his frame. I don't think I'm too worried about that because I don't think he's going to come by here and score like 17 at night or whatever, but he is going to be, you know, I think he will have an instant impact on the team. Well, there you're going. That's the definition of a breakout player,

so I hope you're right. My last player, I got the Blazers. This one was hard because they're kind of at the Rockets when you had soles where they just have a lot of guys you're like fuck which one's going to take over I'm not left for great options there's Scoot Henderson or Shaden Sharp are really the two you can pick as in terms of breakout

and both are talented highly touted and extremely flawed so I'll go with Shaden Sharp just because he's older and more likely to break out in this coming season I still have some scoot stock but we know how far away he is and I think he'll get to the point of being a good starting point guard but it takes time

Shaden Sharp is kind of like Keontay George where he has the flashes where George has a shooting flashes that are kind of ruined by the too much on-ball reps that make him take bad shots Shaden Sharp has a lot of good flashes driving to the rim we know he has crazy bounds he's a dunk contest type guy

he's great uncuts, great running transition can get to the rim with the ball his hands a little bit but if anybody, most people don't know this because they didn't watch a lot of Blazers ball last year because why would you? They were one of the worst watches in the entire NBA. They were probably the worst coach team outside the Pistons last year. Absolutely ridiculous offense. Everyone standing around doing nothing. It was horrible, not conducive to any development for any

young players. So I'm going to hope and pray that that gets better this year and we can see Shane Sharp have his downhill ability to be in a little bit better of a situation where he isn't driving into the rim like a maniac with no spacing, just doing whatever. If we can get that and point that in a more positive direction, I think he has a skill sets that you could look up and see him as like a top 20 shooting guard top 15 shooting guard in the league yeah now we watched a game last year between the jazz and the blazers oh god what what year what month was it like like second month probably third month at least they were both already they were already both considered bad essentially at that at that point and we were like man listen we love the NBA but maybe we don't

Because the guys were really like, because the guys watching the jazz and the Blazers play that aren't like, those aren't their teams just because they're on league pass. You must really love basketball to fully watch that game, man. Shout out to you. That's you. And listen, I watch those games. It wasn't because I have this love for the game. I'm like, oh, I got to see Shaden Sharp. It was because I was obligated to because I got to talk about these teams.

I did not enjoy it. It was work. It wasn't pleasure. We did it. It was work. Really bad hoops. Entirely worked. That shit was homework.

It was not great. Sean Steve Billups is a terrible coach, man. It doesn't get talking about enough. So there you go. Shane and Sharper, I hope you break out. Donovan were your last two teams. So I actually only have one team left, and that's the Hany and the Pacers. I'm going with Nemhart.

I think what we were able to see from, from Nj and Mhardt last year, specifically, like, in the playoffs, I think that's exactly what the Paces need you obviously have tyrese as a building block you got you got pascal miles turner whether he's in trade talks or whatever he's going to be in indiana he's just going to be a pacer i just don't like nobody's traded for him so now you need to fill out really everything else i think that nemhart was was fantastic and if he can really break out and be the be you know one of the the the two-way guys and for for indiana i think that's i think that's massive so i'm going with the m-hart And there we go. Shout our Andrew Nemhart.

Shout out Pacer's talk. Shout at our list. Because that is all 30 teams. We give every single team a breakout player for this year. And I think now it's time for us to have some fun. It is time for TikTok time. Let's go!

Welcome back to TikTok time. Once again, we are starting with the draft. And as you can see, a special unorthodox type of draft when we normally do. Because we're recording this Thursday, September 5th, which is the day the NFL season is beginning. And if you know anything about sports media, I want all of the NFL views I can get

because that is a frenzy of interest in sports, and I am not above pandering. So what we're going to do today is we're going to do a draft of NBA players that can play in the NFL. So we have, instead of point guard, shooting guard, we have QB, running back, tight-in, wide receiver, wide receiver, and we're going to put NBA players into these positions based on if we think they can do it. this should be funny because i am a big football casual so i may have the funniest most that pick doesn't even make sense picks so you know i hope you do because it'll lead the hilarious comments so it'll be great so the draft order is be souls first me second donovan third you guys know how this works you take turns drafting full lineups so that being said let's draft

NBA lineups with players who could play in the nfl be soles where we're going first all right cool for my quarterback. I was thinking about this a lot, man. I'm picking Nicola Yolkich as my quarterback. Seven-foot quarterback, one of the best passers I've ever seen, can look over everyone. Now is he going to be running the ball? Absolutely not.

But does he need to? No. But man, it's a statue. Big Ben to the highest level. Try to tackle him. Try to tackle him. You can't. Actually, JJ Walt wraps him up.

No, late pass. Yeah. Like that's a good pick Listen the past accuracy Would not be doubted I'm gonna get the best athlete here I think Give me a Michael Jordan at wide receiver one Is that catch radius

Those hands I gotta go with the most talent I see I see Okay okay all the time I like the pick I like the pick I'm shocked That this guy felt to me Give me LeBron James

Put LeBron at my tight end How am I getting LeBron at the third pick that's crazy so here's the thing here's the thing i hear you keep in mind i did forget about him so there's that i did forget this is true i thought we were doing current that's that's that's what i didn't think of it but you know what's i said jordan oh okay okay that's what we're doing you still could have picked lebron if we were doing current you still could have picked it lebron's 40 listen all right niquel can you make that young lebron can you do that i'll tell you Yeah, young LeBron.

Yes, at my tight end. At my wide receiver, give me Anthony Edwards. Yon, diet version of my pick. Yon. Please. Please. I'm going to pick the best quarterback on the board. Give me Magic Johnson.

What are we doing? Magic Johnson. Yon. Who is throwing better passes? Who is throwing darts better? Yon. Y'all quarterbacks are too big. I'm going straight for the knees.

Straight for the knees. taking them out magic can you won't last four weeks against my defense we are the 85 bears we're putting boundaries on everybody I'm putting in boundsings you're not Pat Bev and PJ Tucker with her hands in the dirt I think I'll live

straight helmet to knee that's how we teach it in practice I promise you do not bounty gate don't play against my team you won't be ready that souls we're going wide receiver I'm I'm thinking fast. I'm thinking John Wall as my wide receiver.

That's a good pick. The Tyree Hill action? Yes, sir, yes, sir. Okay. John Wall. So nobody's the running back. Oh, it's your turn still. Frost snake.

Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. And then for my running back, I'm still thinking fast. I'm thinking stronger, on the stronger side. Nate Robinson? Is that a good pick? I don't know. I don't know. Nate Robinson has my running back.

Okay, okay. Guy with a lot of strength. I don't hate that. You know, athletic. Okay, drafted Tariq Cohen. Okay. You know, I'm going to go the other way. Well, I think running back, I think a big bruiser.

I want a Marshawn Lynch. I want a Brandon Jacobs. Give me Charles Barkley and my running back. Oh, my God. We're lowering that shoulder. We're running through everybody. This may put an offensive lineman at his running back position. We're putting up.

helmet to helmet we're beating you trench warfare is back he's the john harbaw football it's from the middle of alabama oh yeah he's he's running jim harbaw football that's okay that's okay listen uh all right at my wide receiver my second wide receiver soles gave me a great idea i got ant man on the outside i need a slot receiver i need somebody who's very shifty very quick Give me Derek Rose as my wide receiver. Okay. Speed demons, little Sean Jackson. Okay.

Yep. And then at my running back, listen, being a running back, you just got to run through somebody's face. I need the angriest person I can find. The most try-hard person I can find. Give me Russell Westbrook as my running back. That is Derek Henry 2.0.

Oh, my goodness. This man will never quit on the player. You know what I should have really picked for running back? It should have been Zion, man. Man, Zaya may be number one fifth. I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. Give you Zion a tight end.

I know that man can throw a Lee block. We're going power at every position. That man is Trent Williams. You are drafted linemen. Hey, let me want a Charles Barkley halfback dive with Trent Williams' lead blocking for him. That sounds like a touchdown. Oh, my gosh. I hate this.

I'm going to get you out of space. I promise. Your corners are getting stiff-armed. All right, from my tight end, I'm thinking athletic, well, for all of these guys really, outside from Yolkich, thinking athletic,

thinking a guy that's tall, I'm picking Janus as my tight end. 6-11 tight end? Come on, bro. Please again. Once again, I'm going for your knees. You're not going to be able to walk the next day.

You won't be. be able to. Don't get all the flags in the world. The target is just too big. We're putting you in a 30 for 30. I'm saying. Listen, you set your own players up. Don't make me get a camp test on my defense.

Don't make me get. I drive Ron our test as my strong safety right now. That's crazy. For she Wallace, middle line back here. Oh my gosh. And then for my wide. receiver because I do know he actually played football. Not this position though, but he's still

pretty fast. I'm picking Allen Iverson as my last wide receiver. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay, you got speed. Okay. All right, I'm gonna go the other way. We're making first team all Brolick. Give me Kauai Leonard at wide receiver. This is Calvin Johnson. The biggest catch radius, the biggest hands, big targets, and they're all going to catch it every time. Okay. All right. Listen. Awesome. That makes sense. Jordan and Kauai on the outside is, that's a great deal.

With magic throwing jump balls, perfect accuracy. That's a, that's a great duo. Charles Barker to run through your chest. Yoke is throwing down every time. You're looking down, man. I have a couple options. I have a couple options. And normally I like my quarterbacks to be very mobile.

I'm not going to do that. in this sense, give me, give me a stocky quarterback. Give me Luca Donchich as my, as my QB. We're going for the knees. What? He's not, he's not, he's the shortest quarterback out of everybody. He's okay. Sorda, barely.

He's protected. Six, seven, six, eight. You might be less mobile than Yokic. That's it. It's okay. He's not going to scramble at all. I don't need that. Statue.

I don't need that. I have ant man on the outside. So for audio listeners, my plan, my team is Magic Johnson at QB, Charles Barkley at running back, Zion Williams in a tight end, wide receivers are Michael Jordan and Kauai Leonard. This is nasty. That's gross. All right, my team, I have Luca, I have Luca Donchitz at quarterback, Russell Westbrook at running back, LeBron James, a young LeBron James at tight end, Anthony Edwards at wide receiver one, and Derek Rose at wide receiver two. Okay Yeah, my team is perfectly balanced

And then my team I have Yokic at quarterback Nate Robinson as the running back He Imagine that hand off Yokish You're going to have to get on his knees Just to hand it off, bro

Janus at tight end John Wall and AI As my two wide receivers Nice You have such Like Did I do good?

I don't know I don't know Football, man. No, it's cool, it's cool. It's good, it's good. It's good. It's just funny that you have such polar opposite. You're the biggest guys in the world,

and then the smallest NBA players you get, they go. It's perfectly balanced. I like it. All right, man, so I told you guys, we did that because we were shameless view chasers. The second TikTok we're going to do today is equally shameless. Now, today is the day the NFL season started. Today is also the day 2K-25 dropped. So we're going to do a 2K-related shorts.

Let's go. Let's run it up. I'll do anything for some views. What we're going to do is I'm going to name two NBA players. And I want you guys to guess which one has a higher rating in 2K-25. Okay. So I don't know if you guys have seen these ratings yet, but obviously they're new. Some may be some surprises.

I have not. You tricked me into buying the game last year. I will never, ever give 2K another one of my dollars. It's never happening again. Tough. I spent so much money on builds that I didn't know how to use. And I didn't enjoy my gaming experience. I'm not playing it.

That's your problem, man. Listen, that's a problem that I had too. I just accepted, man, I am not going to be Ticino ever, okay? I'm just, my park is not my game mode. So I just bought this game this year to play playing out online and do my leagues. That's it. Not spending any VC. I feel that.

But I do want to be Ticino. And I drugged Donovan and Moe into it. They were not good. They were not good at all. No, we got to get on some minds, man. bro we were in the park straight brown shirts getting right off the floor it was it was so frustrating i took it into the wreck i would look up i had 18 points on like 11 for 12 shooting and like oh i had a good game we're down by 30 it didn't matter that's gross

man real simple life i'm going to name two NBA players you'll let me know who you think has a higher rating this year first off stepf curry or shea gilders alexander is this the year Is this the year that they have crowned a new, a new king over Steph Curry? I don't think so. I don't know. Give me Steph. The masses love Curry. Give me step.

I'm going to go SGA, man. I think this is the year. I think this is the year. Sadly, this is the year. Shea is a 96 and Curry is a 95. He's the third highest point guard. He's officially old. No.

Cooked. Wash King. Wash King, man. Man. I actually had 95. Wash King at 95. I know. 36 years old 95.

Oh no. Fuck. All right. That was an easy one. Obviously, She's kind of taking the level above. That one was a little bit predictable. Next one. Victor Wemba Jama or Jimmy Butler.

Now, if I was making the game, listen, I put Wembe above Jimmy. But I'm not sure where they rank them at right now. I will take Jim. I think 2K actually is enough of a hype beast to put Victor on over it. They are some hypebees for sure. After Jimmy Bowler made the finals, they were like fucking 96. They don't react to anything.

Yeah, no, 2K is a bunch of hypebeast, so he may even be like a 92 already. I don't know. Well, Vic is a 91 and Jimmy is in 88. They said these are not the whole days. Jimmy gets your all that down. They just like me for real. They just like me for real. That's exactly how I would have did it

I didn't have faith But they did it I like that I like that One thing about two kids They love whatever's hot And that's not Jimmy Bowler at this moment Not at all

Next one We have Derek White And Rudy Gobert Man Give Rudy his love Go ahead Go ahead He has the higher

I'm gonna say he has the higher The higher overall Once again In my game game that that wouldn't fly but I didn't make the game I'm not a dev sad this I'm gonna say my career path I'm gonna say Derek man Derek we know what you're saying there oh yeah yeah but I'm gonna be honest though as a Celtics fan he might be getting a little bit overrated but I like it though go go keep gassing of Derek white well Donovan you're 0 for three it is Derek white he is

One's going to go through. Yo, I, listen, I might buy the game now. I see what 2K is on this year. I see that they have some common sense. I'm rocking with them. Okay, listen, if I go 0 for four and I'm happy with it, I'm buying the game. I might do it. I might do it.

Eric Wydid 86 is crazy, man. Oh, where is the hype beast, man. Jesus Christ. Next duo. We got James Hardin and Bradley Biel. Oh, see, this is mid on mid. Mid or mid for sure. 83 or 84 overall.

Who's who? Oh, my God. Okay. All right. I'm going to go with reverse hype here, the same way that they were hyping up bad players. I think the Suns went out so sadly that they're going to knock Bradley Biel for that. So give me James Hardin for the higher overall. Yeah.

At the end, going on my 2K hype beast logic, James Arden is still more hype than Braddon. Beale so I'm gonna go James too Donovan is over four This is crazy What does Bradley Beal do? They're hating on Hardin on Gobert Oh, I'm tapping in I'm tapping in

This is my kind of game I love it Oh my god What did they see in Bradley Beal to give him A higher than James Hardin This is crazy I'm gonna be in park Going back and forth

I'm paying the VC you're getting see me hooping in a mascot outfit oh it's gonna be great it's gonna be amazing i like this game the dribbling this year is crazy though it is nice i'm about to be watching tutorials tips and tricks oh my goodness can't wait all right man next one deandre aton or austin reves please let's hate on de andre aet let's hate on deandre aton i'm going with austin reeves in this one yeah i'm going on austin rees man let me know probably like a 78 man oh my god listen the whole world hates aton but not 2k they have them a couple spots higher than reeves what 83 81 you know what i don't they got this one right

that's what that's what listen there's only one strike i'm still rocking with them okay okay that's fine i still haven't gotten one right i you have you're terrible you're despicable Please, let's get one for Donovan. I just played a whole season of NCAA last night. I'm a national champion. Anthony Davis or Anthony Edwards. Now, this is hype on hype. Yeah.

Now, is it? No, it is hated versus hype. No, AD has really come up over the last year and a half. I guess because he was the most hated motherfucker in the world a year and a half ago. So now he's neutral. But you can't be more glazed. Yeah. Yeah.

You can't be more glazed. nobody's ever had as much glazing them as aunt does yeah next michael jordan year three come on bro yeah come on i'm gonna go aunt i'm gonna aunt man just because i i want to i want to get one on the board it's not about two k anymore i'm going anthony davis you're just playing the numbers what you think he'll be right yeah yeah damn that's a decent strategy but you're wrong again what it is oh actually no mind you're fine i got it wrong you're right you're right Anthony Davis was one spot higher We did it

Let's go We got him on the board Let's go Which is so funny Because every year in the playoffs They just keep pushing people up higher The further they go So aunt was a fucking 95

For some reason At the end And so was Kyrie And they put him back down Okay Donald finally got one That's all I wanted John Morant Or Kyrie Irving

Ooh I think I think 2K is still weirdly high on Kyrie. They fucking love Kyrie. They love Kyrie. They love Kyrie. But John Moran is still also John, man. I'm going to John Morant.

I think if you get somebody, like, John Moran's game is so perfectly suited for 2K, there's probably a little, just a little boost in there. I'm going John Moran. You would think John Morant is clearly the better player, but it doesn't matter. two guys in love with Kyrie they made him two spots higher

92 to 90 they are hilarious Kyrie is a 92 and Giles a 90s two spots two spots higher I understand it's just two spots like two overalls but really in Kyrie's direction

listen man they they love them from Kyrie it's unbelievable most skill player of all time he has to he has to take it yeah apparently next one last one all right that was the last one oh no wait one more lamella ball or bam out of bio

listen bam bam's the better player I'll go bam here I'm going lamello if it if it's not going to mellow shucked I'm gonna lamella man

hype beast 2K height beast heaven man lamella come on bro listen man if they voted kairi above jaw anything anything's fair game yeah but sadly 2K knows little bit of ball they have bam on a bio one overall higher which to me is way

too fucking close that's way too close why is bam not a 90 what overall difference is ridiculous that's gross naked bam in that white t-shirt that matchy white tee get them at that 90 oh unbelievable man

next thing we're gonna do tier list you know t3 staple it's one thing about us we like tier lists and some shit we like ranking some shit We like go-to formats that make you guys want to watch and get more views. So today what we're going to do, we're going to put Shackton of Fool moments into a tier list. This one should be interesting.

100%. We got some stuff to pull. All right. So, listen, if we're going to start the Shacton of Full tier list, we have to go with the Godfather, the goat of Shackton and Fool, Javelle McGee, right? Which one? There's a lot of Javelle McGee moments. We're gonna talk about when Javelle McGee just ran the other way Just forgot what side

What side he was he was playing basketball on and just ran the opposite direction This was so good The best part of this is it's been years and I don't know what he was doing The zoom out the zoom out on the on the video is so perfect because you see them keep trying to get they keep trying to get Javelle in the frame and he just keeps going further and further I love this The cameraman's like, what's going on? Everybody's confused. I'm trying to think, like, did he think he made the shot?

That's why he kept in back. But by the time he gets to the three-point shot, like, they're already passing the ball to, like right there, they're already passing to each other. He put a lot of faith in his hook shot. He was like, oh, I know this is money. There's no awareness. I guess he thought that the other team got the rebound.

So I'll put this in like a B-tier because I guess it's a decent, reasonable mistake. Yeah, he's just trying really hard, man First one back This man has blinders on There's gonna be worse on this list Just tunnel vision A racehorse

He's fucking secretary All right Next up We have James Hardin Trying to block Kauai Leonard On a three point shot Oh this is great Why is he doing this

And mind you, listen We've seen the Lakers do it We've seen Rondo and LeBron do this And that's fine That was the 2020 Lakers They were top of the conference The clippers were sliding They were in the middle of a terrible

Of a terrible stretch The vibes were not good And James Harder was like Yeah, let me just try this out Why are you doing this? And Kauai is the last guy You want to do this too Listen I know he's a fun guy

I know he's secretly funny I can't imagine he finds his humorous I bet he hated this A wide open shot You're trying to quit farm that's what it is he's just trying to clip for him man it works you are in this clip

James Arden Faze Arden Look at that By the end of the clip Another defender got into the picture Kauiland it went from being wide open To be double team For no reason

For no reason I'm putting that in like That's like a Just just off of Stupidity Yeah he's just a jackass Go ahead All right next moment

Another goat moment we're talking about auto porter falling asleep on defense controller dying not moving and getting beat on a back cut he's glitching the cut to the coach he's like what the hell that is so good he thinks it's like four seconds to catch up the first three the first three seconds he's looking back and forth between his man too and then he just stops he just stops What is he doing? He has high latency input lag. What are we giving this?

What do you think soles? I'm going to say, this is A, bro. That's hilarious. Everything you watched it gets funnier. What's worse is that the play was so like that wasn't supposed to happen. There was a clear cut to the basket, and they were just like, no, he's not supposed to be that open.

No, no. Yeah, they didn't even throw it to him because the offensive player was dumbfounded by the fact that he's open. He's supposed to follow him and run into the pig. What? What was that? It was beyond comprehension. His man didn't even cut to the rim.

He just wanted to continue doing the fucking curl route. He didn't even know he was open. Yeah, he didn't know he was open. He was like, no, he just kept on running the route. That was crazy. That's good. All right. Next up, we have Kyle Kuzma and Steph Curry, both being insanely goofy on a basketball court.

Kyle Kuhumah turns the ball over. Then Steph Curry thinks he's getting a wide open dunk, slips, gets the ball back, gets a three-point shot, misses. Everything about this clip is off. Everyone, dumb on dumb, triple dumb. Dumb. Dumbull. Oh.

Triple Dumble. That's actually marved. I might have to write that down. That's actually, triple Dumbull is elite. That's actually. I mean, the sheer, number of goofs in this like I feel like it has to be a tier. Anytime you miss a dunk off your own accord like it's gonna be a tier. This must be the most new gen clip we've seen so

far. Imagine missing a layup and your next reaction is on an open fast break by the way. No one's really back. I'm gonna run to the corner and shoot a corner three. That's crazy. So I need what's the funny part is you know Curry was pissed. He's wanted redemption. He's also glip farming. I nailed this three No one cares And now He's just double down on ass Man

We have to Listen relax Relax relax We have to That's STA I just There's multiple people Being stupid

There's so many moments in here Where it's just like Why are you doing that How did this happen to us I'm putting that in STA There you go I'm not going to argue with you That was the next one

Next one Repeat offender James Harding Hit it Getting so upset Slamming the ball On the ground Only to get hit in the face

With the basketball S tier Strictly because of Josh Hart's reaction The camera work is perfect He's just the fuck You can't believe his eyes Look at him trying to play it off Like it didn't happen

Like come on James We know your face hurts right now, bro Yeah, he walks away Like, damn, little cool shit He's blaming the Rams They're fouling me The whole time his nose hurts That should be my 13th free throw

James, you already have 12 Relax Eyes watering You ever have been In the face of the basketball She's not fun Dude yourself must be tough I have to be so mad

With 20,000 people watching live Oh my goodness Now he had to play that off man That's the best part He was foul baiting too Like he was trying to do his normal thing He was Ester Estere

Fow abating leading to solve harm Estir There were some badies in the second row man He couldn't look bad He couldn't look bad That was in Houston Yeah All right

Next up listen We got beat soles here Obviously massive Celtics fan Listen, nobody's safe Not even the defending national champions What is that? Jason Tatum, what are you doing here? Hey man, at least it's an all-star game

Where you're supposed to be on bullshit At least it wasn't a real game Bro, Tatum has the worst PR in the league, man I swear But also Listen, it's pretty easy to do goofy shit In an all-star game and not look bad You gotta have negative aura to look dumb

In an all-star game here we go negative war allegations he is never beating a chat at this point at this point it's not even allegations it's just facts

I can't even deny man I seen that clip when he was in China this week couldn't score on a dude like he missed like three open layups at the rim dude I can't defend this man I can't man just not a smooth guy

That's not a smooth guy What you would think he is man You know Good looking guy You think he's smooth He's like you think he's smooth He's pretty He's cute

Relax He's like a baddie with no personality So I like him You don't see that Good guy Bro he's wavy Have you seen his cuts He's top five with a cut, man

We're going to 18 Number clarified to Top five what I'm top five Okay You're just thinking cute You're just thinking cute JT Oh my God A tier

That's hilarious Yeah we'll go A tier All right next up Once again Nobody is saved We got Jalen Brown Trying to be Ant Man Just getting caught in the pivot

Just right here Just Ah Turn over There's just no good part of that about that clip Bro, there was six pivots in that play The first five, he thought he was killing it He thought he was about to have highlights

Six one shit got bad real fast He's like, I'm gonna get him I know for a fact though, second pivot He was like, oh yeah, I got him I got him right here I got him right here And then he jumped up Oh, never mind

Listen man, what I have gotten from this video is there's a clip farming epidemic in the NBA. All of these plays happened just because someone was trying to get their clip off, man. Play hoops. Make the layup.

Everyone wants to be on house of highlights. Nobody wants to stick to the fundamentals. I'm saying. He was going to back to the basket. He stuck to the fundamentals too much. Six pivots?

Relax. Keep the ball moving. Take the shot. It's okay. my pivot three pat-bap already fell bro like just whoever that is you oh you broke his ankles yeah go up look look at you turn over dizzy looking stupid get out of here can't see straight stupid stupid stumbling down the court this is deserve a tier I'm say B I'm gonna say B I'll say B I'll say B I'll say B okay we'll go B too that's fair

all right last one nobody is safe we got drew holiday getting a backcourt violation five seconds five seconds into the game no awareness no awareness you know how easy it is to not do that it's like such an avoidable mishap you're literally the game just started you're not locked in You are not here to play Bro, they're Miami I know they got it in the night before It adds up This has got to be one of those

Like 2 PM games too They're you know what I'm saying The mind not really in it for real Like why are we playing basketball It's supposed to be a 7 o'clock Mamosas on the breath That's not going to be Yeah, nah this is crazy

I'm saying F for Celtics hate though This is crazy Three straight Celtics clips This is insane It happens It happens to the best five I told you nobody was safe nobody was

I was going to C tier with this one yeah and that's it's hilarious though that's what we got I'm gonna stop right there I'm gonna stop right there there's more though all right exactly no trust me

there were more listen y'all won the chip y'all were stupid this year though I promise you that there's a lot of tatum there's a hey we didn't even get to Chris off Rzingas big ass

we're just like gold can of worms there I could have ran it up but you're a guess so I keep it simple We really went easy on you You should really say thank you Exactly I appreciate it man

I appreciate it Because that could have been a old Celtics clip right there Y'all weren't even doing it for the views It's just Alright B-Sol's here Let's shit on the Celtics Okay

Bullying our guest is my favorite thing to do Anytime Kenney's on the show It's always Bulls hate So it's only right you get Celtics hate Right All right man Next thing we're going to do Let's talk about some real basketball

Some real basketball discussion Let's get some discourse going on I'm going to name an NBA player And I want you to tell me Who you think is the closest player To their game in NBA history Could be a current player Could be back in the day or whatever

Just who most resembles the way this player plays Okay Real simple First name Kevin Durant Hard one, very unique player Honestly Listen, this might be glaze

It's kind of one-on-one I don't know There's never been anybody to play like Kevin Durant You see seven feet And plays like a guard We've never seen this before I don't know if there's an actual comp for Kevin Durant Yeah Kevin the rent is like an archetype

But if I were to put a player Probably T-Mack Yeah I was gonna say T-Mack too He's like I'm missing a T-Mack and Dirk Like It's like Team Mac and Derrick A really tall guy with guard-like skills Can shoot the ball

Create on his own I think the closest one would probably be team at Yeah just in terms of height and shooting combination Yeah Early in this career people were like maybe it's Tatum But then you forgot how to shoot Oh my God here we go bro No

No okay I'll stop running it up Don't don't feel bad Don't feel bad right you have two top 15 players in the league it's fine it's okay oh wow oh wow it's okay not to have tough 15 players and they both better than jalen brunson and that's all that matters oh lord oh i wish please please we got the real jb man yeah final's MVP jb oh my goodness speaking of next player jason tatum kevin the rant yeah i mean i get where you're coming from i'd probably go off Rukamino oh wow okay I was thinking I was thinking to see a little

that's good one a little oh ruddy if we're sticking to 2024 probably Ben Simmons or Kevin Knox there's a little somewhere somewhere between he has a little bit of like Theo Pinson in his game I'm glad you said that because I was just thinking of Mario Hizonia I do remember the Kuzma comparisons y'all remember those those graphics that have their skills Kuzma or Tatum Who's a better rookie? God. You know, Coosman's a good comparison.

We'll stick with that one. That's probably the closest to be here now. Yeah, there we go. Next up. Yao Ming. Zach Eadie. The biggest guy you can think of. Who's large?

Is that? Is it? Honestly, it's more. Because this is like, obviously, a real. really big dude but he he could still shoot a little bit yeah I was gonna say like what us on Marcus Aldridge had Zach Edie's body if he's something like that for Paul Gasol honestly that might be that might be the the comp if you just put if you just like give Paul Gasol a 7 4 frame might be yaming that's not that's not bad that's not bad

it's not bad you've seen the clip of Yao Ming running up and down the court doing the behind the back move he had one of those in his career i think toggle saw had about two of those in his career as well very similar highlight tapes i can get with that they both love some mid-range jumpers there you go it's not bad our next one jalen brunson it's kind of hard to compare to there's not a lot of like guards like him that are so skilled but so unathletic good stuff but he's strong too Yeah, just like not fast, which is very rare from a Star Guard But quick, not fast, but quick

You see, you understand it You understand it, get to your spot, right? Right, low the defense and go It's about explosion It's about the spot It's about the pivot being Oh my goodness, I don't understand The greatness of Jalen Brunson's game 15 feet and below

A lot of people can do it really like on the perimeter You have a lot of space when you're in condensed spaces and you're able to get whatever shot you want everybody knows right i think was talking all this mess about how you know brunton was going to get shut down in the playoffs and you know i don't you know i don't think his game is going to translate that

well you don't think getting buckets translates that's what jaymondson does that's what he does and yeah man i don't i don't know he really might might be one of one he really is special i'm thinking jordan farmer i'm not sure but i'm not sure I'm thinking Celtics Isaiah Thomas Hold on Let me cook

Small on small Let's get it Small point guard High volume Lefty Isaiah Thomas was pretty strong For his size too Revitalize a rebuilding

Franchise Damn he's supersized Isaiah Thomas It's not bad Supersized at 6 feet It's crazy I don't know Don't hate that.

Super silence. All right, man. Next one. Ben Simmons. Ooh. Prime Ben Simmons. Not 2024. Okay.

Magic Johnson. Is that crazy? Do I go there? I mean, no. This is kind of like. Super, super charged. Lamar Odom. Yeah, I guess.

Like a little bit of Dremont in there. A fast, Kyle Anderson. There you know. He was like a really elite premier defender that could guard point guards, which is really rare for that height. So I don't know who else matches that at all. I mean, that's where the, that's where the, the, that's where the, the, that's where you get the really good defense on top of Lamar Odom.

You still get the passing from, from both of them, very versatile. All right. What about 2024, Ben Simmons? me we're playing the same amount of games it doesn't matter oh god there is no comparison

one of a kind back speaking of one of a kind next one victor women yama oh I mean it's

okay okay it's very clear like if you took if you took all the talents and you did the space jam thing and you put them all in a ball and you gave it to

bowl bowl that would be Victor Womenyama Well see the thing is If you do that All you got to do is get Victor Womenyama And just like put a machine It's like squish them a little bit And you get Chad Holmgren

It's kind of crazy They came in the league together Because they're kind of like The closest they've ever seen to each other Mini Vic is a 7 foot one dude crazy Just bashing the head with a Looney Tunes hammer And you get Chad Holmgren I've heard people say Ralph Samson

But I haven't watched enough Ralph Samson team I don't know a fucking thing about Ralph Samson other than he was very tall I played for the Rockets Yeah that's My elders have told me

The same thing They've said Ralph Samson Is that comparison It must be him then I don't know So I mean I guess Listen shout out Ralph Samson You get the salute from us

You know what it is I won't pretend to be up on Ralph Samson knowledge I shall not I shan not Kauai Leonard That's Michael Jordan That's that this is my

People talk about They talk about Anthony Edwards being Michael Jordan Kauai Leonard is crazy The moves The way that they The way that they operate I'm noticing a pattern Any player that has Michael Jordan comparisons

It's just overly glazed 2019 Kauai might be the most praise player of all time. Not even 2019. Not even 2019. Listen, we don't talk about it a lot because he got hurt. 2021, Kauai.

Oh, he was going to bonkers. When he got hurt against the Mavericks, that version of Kauai was different. And that version is Michael Jordan. Okay. Kawhi. Paul George? Not leecher.

Pete Paul George, baby. I don't know. We got two of them on the same team. Damn. They didn't win shit. Didn't win shit. Hey, yeah, two are the same. You need something to compliment each other, man.

All right, next up, Draymond Green. Dennis Rodman with some bop in it. Some bop is great. Ron our test with good PR. I was what is what is Dennis Rodman without Bob? You know, like, I'm just like, say, saying, same, same, same, same, St. Raymond, with bop, implies that Dennis Rodman didn't have bop. And I assure you, he feels like one of the most boppable players in the, in the,

what is this conversation? You know what I'm saying? That got to be a yo. I'm sorry, man. That got to be a yo. I haven't said that at all this podcast. I said, all that all mine, man, but that has to be a yo, bro. Listen, I'm just trying to follow the logic.

I just feel like he has a lot of bop. Turn your fucking mic off. I see that he has a lot of bop. That's all I'm saying. You can stand on that hill, man. I'm not about to argue the bop ability of a player. I'm good, bro. I'm good.

I'm just asking, I'm going off of the turn that you used, right? This is your lexicon. Okay, so it's me. My bad job. My bad is. What is Bob? What is that? What does that mean to you?

Okay, well, that's the end of that segment. Last thing we're going to do. I didn't even say a player for day one. Oh, my God, bro. That's funny. Last thing we're going to do, I'm going to say an NBA player's name, and you're going to tell me the best and worst thing about them.

It can be about their games, how they've impacted the league, their perceptions, how we talk about them, whatever you want, the best and worst thing that comes to mind when you hear this player's name. Okay.

So first off, LeBron James. I guess... Tough one. Hmm. What is the worst thing about LeBron? Skip Bayless.

Giving relevancy to Skip Baylis. Giving him ammo for all these years. I don't know. Skip Bayliss kind of took that i don't know if lebron gave that gave that you're right begged for it lebron didn't give him nothing yeah lasted skip balas man that's crazy thank god isn't that that crazy that an athlete outlasted somebody who all he has to do is talk

like you can talk to you die and lebron is still the longevity is still out of you talk to you guys skip bala helped me out here arguing with clouds about lebron james man that will be tripping like what's crazy is after he got fired he's still doing it so now you're just doing it for free come on bro paying for free it's crazy when you used to get paid millions LeBron sucks

they couldn't defeat me in these shoes okay Skip we get it you got nice Jordans oh my god I know his wife is sick of him she's just like yo get a job like he's not talking to me about this put the fries in a bag skip please

please skit oh my god all right so I guess the best thing about LeBron is longevity that's probably

the best thing is that he's able to outlast everybody there we go that's crazy is the worst is it glaze

for me to say there's nothing bad about Lebron not that I mean yes fair wipe your fucking mouth he got locked up okay

the legm allegations legium allegations depending on you can talk to that might be true but But the legium allegations, how he, like, controls every team. He goes to, they just, you know what I'm saying?

Just bend over for LeBron. He got lost up by J.J. Barreya. Here we go. Here we go. Oh, my God. Why did I think of 2011? Oh, my God. That's the worst thing.

2011 is right there. Yeah, my bad. My bad. What about bending over? My bad, Joe. What? Nobody was talking about bending over. No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no. I brought it up My bad job We're in the deep end We're in the deep end It's going crazy If you stay here for this time Talk the comments

LeBron's never Like Hey this is how I don't know I'm getting comfortable Now chat by the way When the conversations get like this This is really my bag Nobody's right back

Next up Janus Thinking it I just pissed off down to him. He just be thinking it. He's just ridiculous. Janus. Lack of a bag, definitely the worst thing about him.

For sure. I think the dad joke's the worst thing about him. Dad jokes are pretty good. Congrats on the sex. I get it. I'm fine with that. If you score 50s. 50 in a close-out game to win the finals, you can tell every corny joke you want.

But I'm going to have a hesy-hazy-henty tween. That is required. So, yeah, no bag is probably the worst. What's the best? The best thing about him is just try the smoothie. God bless the USA. That 50-point game was crazy. I'm not saying that.

I'm not saying that. I'm iconic to me. All right, fine. He likes smoothies. Good job. next up anthony edwards aura all right so that's the worst thing about it the fact that any time we talk about

anthony edwards or is the is the first thing that comes to mind that's the worst it's been plagued he's poisoned the brain of our youth anthony edwards or duke dennis come on bro the real conversations we're having Y'all won't answer it They won't answer it, man It's a hard question Hard question

It's a hard question It's a hard question I can't I can't fucking Pete All right so the best thing about him The fact that he said These are real conversations

The streets are talking Oh my goodness So the best thing about him Is he killed John Collins on the court That was pretty cool Yeah He gave us the send a video meme That was very funny

That was very funny Oh my god I gotta compose myself next up joel and bead oh why does my mind immediately think of the worst thing uh yeah foul baiting joel and beat's foul baiting oh my god i'm done i'm done with it the worst thing he did is rob us a four straight Nicole yokech MVP's hmm what could have been foul baiting the foul baiting it's out of hand that's that's definitely the worst thing i know what's the best thing Say something good about him.

Listen, he do be scoring, though. I'm not going to lie. He do be scoring. Yo, Doddman loves buckets, man. He do be scoring, though. Cook, cook, cook. The Maconita MIDI, I can tell you that. I mean, what do you want me to say?

You're talking about some of the best players of all time. He do be scoring, though, man. Come on, bro That's actually Hey, that's actually Hey Oh my God, bro He scored

A point or two Vasic bottom loyalty man Stay loyal to Philly All of these years I gotta commend him for it Because they had some rough years Oh my god All right

La Mello ball His shoe His basketball shoes Actually really good he does he does listen I own the pair they actually were good

they didn't suit my game but they they were comfortable my feet didn't hurt so I do appreciate that his shoes shout out footwear worst thing about him his ankles

yeah we get to the lower body the worst thing about him was those motherfucking ankles man his ankles are brittle no the worst thing about him is how he types with all those goddamn emojis We're not Lousievert. Grow the fuck out.

He used to do that. Or still does. He's knew it's Cam Newton. All the stars in Charlotte have their own font. This is just, I don't know why, but this is what they do. This is how they operate. Okay. Trey Young.

Trey Young. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. This is a pro-Trey Young podcast. Watch your mouth. I know the shiver the shiver emote the shiverer celebration

that shit is cool I like that's tough that's a good contribution to leave yeah yeah honestly the best thing's ever done

is tell New Yorkers to shut the fuck up sometimes they gotta hear it I was gonna say honestly stepping in stepping into the villain role and embracing it

the way that he did kind of kind of cool kind of cool I like that and the worst part of him is he is doomed to be compared to Luca Donchitz forever

he has a misfortune of being traded for him so he's gonna have those comparisons until the day he dies Yeah, and then all these point guards Just turned up last year So not like Trayon don't even get the love that he should have

Crazy Tough Next player Kyrie Irving Oh my goodness It's the same thing with Anthony Edwards The worst thing about it Oh my

You think about that a lot Like dude Like I'm saying Come on how or now Come on, man I mean I'm just saying that like I think you actually have

like internal debates about like you have like your like personal or rankings and like so I did do that on the stream like unironically a March madness of aura like it was kind of crazy honestly I'm surprised we haven't done that that's so good

that's some shit well it makes do we will tell you to your face, we're going to steal that. We're going to take that. Hey, go ahead, man. That idea. One thing I'm going to do is copy a good idea.

I want to see how high Duke Dennis goes up there. Unless y'all doing NBA only. Then, no, mind, never mind. Can we cut the episode right now? At last end of the episode, if you're still here, comment how much comment Duke Dennis or we'll see y'all next week