The Deep 3 Podcast - We Picked Every "NBA Legend" In The League Today | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

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Donovan, Donovan, Donovan. How would you define an NBA legend? I would say somebody that has great historical value to either his specific era or to the league's history as a whole. Okay. Now with that framework in mind, we have to pick every single NBA legend in the league right now. I'm going to name an NBA player. You decide which of these categories they fit into. We have legends, maybe one day.

So guys, we don't rule out and people are just not legends. Nope. Okay. Let's start with the obvious ones. How many legends are clear-cut that go on legend-side? We got LeBron, Curry, Kevin Durantz. Hardin-Kawai. Hard-in-Kawai.

Nicole Yokic? Yes, yes, yes. Okay, those are six. They're Janus. Yonis. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, yes, yes. Okay, yes, yes.

Okay, yes, yes. Okay, so we write those in those seven are the clear-cut legends. Okay, yeah, for sure. Now we get dicey. Is Luca Dachos already a legend? No. He made like five, five or six first team all-in-b-b-bates, which is tough. Yes, five.

In an all-star every year. five in his first six years. He made the NBA finals already. I think I would grant him towards the back end of this list, a legend in this game. I would say maybe one day. I think, I think even if he,

not really, because even if he doesn't like go to the final. Then he's just hardened. And just puts up these numbers and yeah, he's just hardened. And if maybe one day, sure, I guess so,

but that's just a time thing. But I would, I would consider him a legend. I'll consider him as one of the greatest scores to ever walk on this planet of reverse. I would say he's a legend. So you're giving Luke Legend status? Yeah.

Yeah. He can. I think maybe one day if we're being very conservative, if like, hey, we'll hold it out for the rest of your career. But I do agree that even if there are no like massive accolades after this, then he is just Jim Tard. Well, I think for this, since there isn't maybe one day, if Luke retired today, is he a legend? No. I don't think so. Then he's clearly one day then, right?

He's already done more than Team Matt. My girlfriend? Is team like a legend? I would say so. No. Now we get into what is legend, because T-Mack is a legend in that he's like super skilled and he's like a legendary player in part because like what could have been and not for injuries.

So he's earned legend status for his story of who he is. But he's not like a legendary resume. So we're opening, they're open the doors here for multiple ways to get to legendhood. No, I think I'd rather, I'd have definitely Luke as a legend, bro. He's had his, the consistency in scoring that he's put up in the numbers are just like, It's uncomparable.

Like, you tell him he's put up 28 since he was 20 years old up until this moment in time where he's averaging 32 a game. Yeah, now he's a legend. He has to be. He's always finishing towards the top of the MVP ladder. Worst he's ever been is like number eight. And that was in his, the second to last year in Dallas when he went to the finals. He's a legend.

So many clutch moments, which is like the definition of legendary. He's done so many legendary things. Put up 73 fucking points in a game. Legend. I mean, listen, by that stuff, is BAM legendary? Come on, please. Don't, listen. Bans been to the highest scoring game in NBA history.

Legendary. Baz been in the finals twice. How many all MBAs is BAM made, right? Legendary. Maybe once. Put a Luka down? I guess Luga makes his way. It's number eight on our legend status.

Okay. Not debatable once. Is Paul George a legend? No. No. Nope. Cold classic, but not a legend. Yeah.

Classic player for sure. Not a legend. I agree. Classic player. Okay, now we're getting the different different versions here. Okay. Is he a classic mixtape player or a classic album player? Sure, mixed tape.

So Paul George is a definite nope. Yeah, definite note. There's no argument for you at all? No, I think the best, um, there just hasn't been enough postseason success for Paul George to get up there. Yeah. And I think that it's the way that last year and this year that he's going out, it's like the second half of his career, it's looking sad.

So I'm going to say he's probably not going to redeem himself right now. So I'm going to say no. Is Kyrie Irving a legend? Where does Kyrie Irving fall on that? That's a hard one because obviously if he is a legend, it will be for, like I said, with Timak, for who he is and what he means to history and his unique player and all this other stuff outside of just resume. Then I would say yes because and even over, because the conversation is always like Kyrie versus Dame. I think Kyrie is more legendary than Dame because of the like most skills.

the moniker and so you would kind of give kairi that yeah i think i think i would call kairi legend of course like he went to the finals he was a integral part of that he's whenever we did see him alone as a lone star um he never amounted to like literally anything and that's just not his role at all but stay oh like he literally never he literally never amounted to literally anything but he's so important to him be a history we literally like we're going to tell stories about him Stories have been told about him already. There's so many, like, niche things that he just owns in the NBA. Because I guess you like the status.

People will tell stories about you in 30 years. I think that's a part of being legendary. He also hit one of the most important shots in NBA history. It's a legendary. Yeah. Okay. So you're, you're like urban legend status as being a larger-in-life figure can propel you, even though the resume isn't quite good enough.

Exactly. That's what gets him in. Okay. So is Damien Lillard a resume? I mean, well, is Damian Lillard a legend? Maybe one day. Yeah. I think it goes back and forth.

Maybe one day. I think people will be way quicker to forget about Dame than Kyrie. What is Dame Allure going to do post Achilles to earn himself into legend status? I'm about to say, I think his legacy's already made. Yeah. If you think he's out of legend, it's no. The no. No.

Okay. Damilur to the no list. It sucks. I wish it sucks, but he never went to the finals at all. There's, what's the most, like, historic thing that he did? It's the bubble shit. Well, he's had a lot of historic. And he had a lot of moments.

Individual moments. He put up like 70, over 70 in a game as well. And like, it's fine to be a legendary individual player when your team isn't good enough. I want to put him in legend, but... Best Blazer of all time, not a legend. Well, that's not even a guarantee.

People like to say that because we're young, but, like, Clyde Drexler is, like, the same resume, but he's made the finals. I want to put him a legend, but it's tough. It's tough conversation. You can be not a legend and still be, like, a Hall of Famer. I say maybe... Have we ever seen a player in NBA history

like get pushed into legendary status after like years of him not playing? Yes. Oh, he's not playing you said. Oh, no, no, I guess not. My bad, that misinterpreted it.

I guess not. I guess his story is probably written for the most part. I want to put him in legendary though because it just feels like I think if you look at his resume compared to Kyrie

like it's way better. Arguably better and even like memorable wise I mean, damn got some moments. The problem is Kyrie's a stretch and we're doing that for like perception among people.

I don't think Kyrie's a stretch actually. He's a lot of legend. In terms of like you said resume that's what you're framed to with Lillard. In terms of resume, Kyrie's a mega super duper stretch. But like we said, like there's the most skilled moniker,

there's how he's referenced by everybody. So, like, he's earned it for that, like, urban legend status. Yeah. So, I don't know. It's just a hard comparison for this combo.

Yeah. Okay. So weird. Jason Tatum. Is Jason Tatum a legend? Maybe one day. He's not, he's not legend right now.

If he comes back and reaches the level he was at before, like a top five player again, post Achilles and he's this new symbol for the best injury recovery ever, he'll be a legend. 100%. That's his path.

That's his path to being a legend. Yeah, I agree. That'll etch them into NBA history for sure. Do we think it's going to happen? Yes. They're real serious. Shut that shit down. Don't know.

Okay, Jaylon Brown. No. What if he wins finals MVP again? No. Z. Bro, come on. It's not going to happen. It's going to be like a weird blip.

But, well, honestly, if he went finals MVP again, then they get another ring. Then it's like, all right. Now he's just. Now he's just a guy who's held back by Jason Tate in politics for his whole career. If he gets another if he gets another finals MVP, it'll be like a legendary funny resume that this guy that is like in many people's eyes good not great continues to get this crazy achievement. Like that'll be a legendary dichotomy. Postseason man.

It'll be Paul Pierce with two finals MVP. Oh my God. Postseason merchant. That's kind of this is great for Paul Pierce. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no. Come on. Is it?

Is Jimmy Butler a legend? A little bit. Jimmy Butler, is he a legend? If we call Jimmy Butler or a legend, then we might have to call a name a legend, I think. I think Jimmy is a Miami legend, obviously. Yeah. I'm going to say maybe one day, just because obviously you have playoff, you have playoff Jimmy's stuff. But because they didn't get a ring, I don't think it's going to be.

Now, how is you maybe one day? Yeah, I don't think Time passes things change I think What does that mean? I mean the way you think about people changes over time It sounded good

I don't know Yeah It's that It does Is that not true? It's true, it's true That's a dope IG caption No

You're not wrong Should that change dope ID caps So you think What made him good You can have that By the way if you want You think we'll look back favorably on Jimmy Butler

decades from now? No one's going to be talking about Jimmy Bullard day. Yes. I do think so. Sorry, that was a crazy stray. I think people were. It wasn't even stray.

It was direct. No one's going to talk about you ever. I think in the same way. Because honestly, when I look at... If it's a person, nose. My bad for the stray. When I look at Jimmy Butler's career, the thing that I often compare it to

is Chauncey Billups and I Choncy Billups a legend I know yes no I think there have been times

when people when people have really really bigged up Choncy Billups and big chonsi big shot Billups like yes like that doesn't make a legend

if Chonsie's a legend we don't have to switch up a lot I'm sad I think we need to set the ball higher I think I know what you're saying he's a very revered player that has he's a legend Choncy's a hall of famer

like a lot of these yards aren't legends. I'm saying because of Chaunty has like a very, very small stint. I know what you mean.

I see what you're saying. And like his, I think the way that people look at Chanty Billups is is much higher than his actual resume. I think that that's a product of him being a quote unquote legend. And that's why I think Jimmy Butler can probably get there. I don't think it's solidified. I don't think he's a hard no because the playoff elevating is legitimate.

But I think it really just depends. depends on how people talk about him in like 10 years. No, I know exactly what you're saying. I see your point that he is a guy who, I think what you're describing is he's extremely respected and that can kind of like make him punch above his weight class of accomplishments because he's such a respectable guy for what he accomplished, gang it out the mud, that like that reverence that'll be around him can make him a legend for extracurricular reasons in the same way as Kyrie.

Yeah. And so I don't think it's a hard no. No, it's certainly not a hard no. I agree. I was thinking maybe it's yes. Maybe he is so respected that he'll be a legend for this like legendary development. element story in a guy who's legendary like ungifted

athletically comparatively and still reach these levels without having long arms, fast first step, doesn't jump that high and still made his way to the finals twice. Yeah, like dude, he's the definition of an poster boy of get it out of mind. He went to Marquette. Dude was homeless as a kid. Dude was like a

28th overall pick in the first round or whatever. Like he had zero odds of anything. He's never had a faith. He was. That's a part of his story. No, I know. You're right. It's legendary. It's just funny because it's coming from you and you said like, you know, fuck it. Jimmy Buller's a legend. He might be a legend.

Jimmy Buller is a legend for the greatest get it out the mud story in modern NBA history. He went to the finals, not once but literally twice, right. There's a historic picture of him back in the 2020 NBA finals when he was looking crazy. No hair could, no none, bro. And he was like exhausted on the, he was exhausted on the sidelines. Like, okay. He might be a legend. Jimmy Buller is a legend for similar reasons to Kyrie that they've earned it for their reputation and their respect levels.

But it feels like Lillard should be a legend too, though, in that same breath. No, that's different. I think Lillard is really good. and doesn't quite as revered. He's very respected, but, like, when we're talking about that, it's about things like bigger than basketball.

And Lillard's respect level was all about basketball. Okay. So he's just really good. Yeah. I might have to spin back on that later. I think Lillard is very comparable to Paul George.

Actually, no, wrong, because Paul George is disrespected by people for personality reasons. So that's maybe not a good comparison. Disregard, I said that. We already put James Hardin in there. We did that already. Is Shay Gildos Alexander a legend?

Absolutely. 100%. I'm assuming he's going to win MVP this year. You already won won a VP last year. Yes. Almost certainly long he doesn't get hurt, soon to be back-and-back MVP.

You told me some last episode, Donovan, that I didn't really think about. But it's like, you said it was like three or four straight years where he's been averaging 30, wildly efficient. Yeah, he's a legend. There's like four players all time

that have averaged 30 for four straight years. So you want to lock it in now? Yes. He is certainly a legend. We should have locked this in yesterday, bro. As soon as he won his finals last year, he was in legend.

Yeah. Like, it was clearly he was on that path. Now he's about to win an MVP again. Back-to-back MVP's get you, legend more often than not. Yeah. Before you're 30? Yeah, you're a legend.

If Lucas's a legend, She's a legend. 100% yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, he laughed Luca. Mm-hmm. Damn, yeah, I'd throw it in there. Anthony Davis.

Is Anthony Davis a legend? No. Come on, man. He's not. He's a legend. That's a close one. Never did anything is one option. Getting a ring for the Lakers

next to LeBron add you some cultural cachet over the decades, I'm sure. Yeah. But I think the story of his career will be the disappointment of what could have been more than anything

that the injuries held him back that he never quite hit the best in the world status we wanted from him yeah he's like a Hall of Famer top 75 player ever one of the best players ever but I don't know if he'll ever

had the reverence to be a legend he would be on the same exact like it's a little bit different towards the end of their career but he would be in the exact same as pathway as in Lillard in terms of you know no one really expected you to win

Lillel your back court mate was fucking C.J. McCollum and then the best players that AD had was okay now that was or strays. He took a call him. Oh, for show.

And then for AD, bro, you had the best year of your Pelicans career was when you had this gimmick basketball style play with Rondo. And he was like elevating and unlocking Drew Holliday. Point Mark don't lost the big man gimmick. No, but he had lost Drew Holliday. And people just say, oh, my God. People were like, oh, my God, he's really forcing Drew Holiday. He only focused on scoring.

He doesn't have to pass anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we would view him in the same light if he never won, but he did at the end of the day. 80s just full of legend status. and is mostly for perception. I think his resume is

close. So the thing is, the AD2, you also look, there's like way less full seasons play than you would think. So the all NBA teams aren't as high as you would think

just because he was always out because of injury. He never wanted a DPOY2 which fucking sucks. Yeah. If you're a top 75 player, does that automatically make you a legend? No.

No. I mean, technically should. Not a legend. Come on. It technically should make you a legend. I guess, wherever the legend bar is for this combo.

Is Dwight Howard a legend? Also teetering. I don't know. that's a hard one. Fuck it, maybe one day. Dwight Howard has become the name for virtue signaling. I know Ball lately.

So I think he's becoming a legend by people saying like, he was better than you think, respect him. He's kind of like earned that role for some reason. So maybe he will be considered a legend. Damn,

so we're not being aides legend. That's how I feel it's going to be with Dame. That's why I wanted to put Dame in. Maybe one day originally. Yeah, I can see in a couple years from now, like 10 years or now, people big enough,

Damien alert and like some Twitter, thread or convoy or whatever. Is Dremont Green a legend? No. One of the greatest defenders of all time, multiple time champion, integral part to Steph Curry's legacy? Yes and no.

Can you be a psychic legend? Yes. Can you be a non-star psychic legend? No. Well, she made all-star teams, so I don't know how to quantify that. He'd be on some Dennis Rodman. You're right, he did.

Is Dennis Robin a legend? Yes. Different animal. You're right. Different type of legend. Different reason he's a legend. Yeah. Okay.

I will consider him a legend if I could see him like have the same. level of productivity without Steph Curry But he could. I don't, I actually don't think But he's a legend for being with Steph Curry. Like that's the whole thing. So I don't even care if he's bad next to without stuff.

But I'm thinking you, but the thing is, is Dramong Green a legend? Not like it's Dr. Mark Green and Seth Curry a legend duo. You know? I'm thinking about you single. I'll say no.

I'll say no. Okay. If you say he's part of a legendary duo but himself doesn't count, I can understand that at least. But the defense, hold on. He's a transformation. He's one of the most influential defenders in NBA history.

Fuck. He's a legend. He's a legend. Like he's the only center. Maybe maybe one day. He's, I think he's a legend. He's a legend. How many DPOIs does he have?

Like two or three? I think he only. And he has a done his Robin thing of like now he's like a legendary throwing hands guy. So he has that character. Yeah, he's a legend. Oh, you can tell so many stories about him. He's a legend. He's a legend.

He's a legend. Yes, he is. This is so gross. Jermon Green legendary. He just has one D. D.P.O.I. That's crazy. Dremont's a legend. Tatum's not.

Let's go. How do you feel about that? I feel a lot of things about this. Don't worry about it John Moran's not a legend Jailma Butler You hate Jimmy Butler so much He has every right to

Is Rudy Cooper legend Stop that I mean shit Dude what would the T-Wills be without him right now There's so many 50 wins teams that don't exist without him Donovan, tell me about Rudy Gabor is in a legend He's actually just close Blood froze

I asleep now We already have Kevin Durant on there Nobody else in the Thunder Nobody else in the Spurs Is there anybody else you guys think about That needs a shout as potential legend Clay's technically still in the league Clay?

Yeah, but he's He's done so many legendary things Clay has Clay's a legend job like 60s We've really open the floodgates Is this Dramon Green thing? No That's why I say Clay's a legend

We really open the floodgates Is Carlis Towns a legend Fuck no Hell not Hell not Shit Not even close Damn

Big cat's home Big cat's home Get third Get third Yeah No Let's focus on Maybe one day

Tab now Can Jailen Brunson Become a legend Yeah I think so If he If his only Opportunity

It's gonna take a lot Though The problem is he's old If he was On the trajectory Of breaking out A little bit younger And this was like

A 26 27 year old season And not close to age 30 As the small guard That's not super Athletic I could see it He probably

has what three or four more years to become a legend. On the high end? Two or three more years to become a legend. You better win the finals on New York fast. Yeah, no. I don't think he's going to be a legend. If he wins the finals, he could be a New York legend. If he gets to the finals, I think he could be a new league. Oh, yes. The weight of winning in New York carries so much.

No, maybe one day. We're heavy on the maybe. Yeah. Heavy on the maybe for Jaylon Brunson. Yeah. Because the opportunity in front of you specifically as the Knicks and what being alleged for them would mean, they're almost equal to the Lakers in terms of what a cashier can happen from winning as a Nick. 100%.

It doesn't happen a lot so we don't see it. But that makes it more likely than makes you legend status. Someone not on the same line, but similar, Tyrese Halliburton. Could he be trumping his way into the legend status one day or? I don't know that he's close enough to warrant being on. You're like anything's possible with these young guys. But I don't know that he's, the path isn't clear to me. He had, he had the legendary run and then a legendary unfortunate moment with the Achilles.

So now it's kind of on the same Taden thing We're like, if he comes back And gets back to another final I think he could be legendary Okay, if he has a comeback The comeback can make him legendary Okay, so the opportunity is granted to him By having a terrible injury at the precipice

Of his greatest moment Yeah. How old is he? He's not that old. He's like 26. 5, 26 maybe, something like that. Yeah, not that old. Okay, something that a lot of people will debate

Is Derek Rose a legend? I wasn't concluding him because it's not in the league anymore But we definitely can. Yes. Is Derek Rose a legend? He's a legendary Chicago athlete for sure. Yeah.

He's a goat in Chicago outside of Michael Jordan. As far as we speak, unless Shea twists his ankle, he is still the youngest MVP ever. Well, Shay's ankle has nothing to do with the youngest MVP. Well, if Wembe, yeah. Oh, oh, okay. Okay, I was like, what do you mean, but I'm confused? Yeah. Okay, so, yeah, youngest MVP is quite legendary.

He's a legendary, like, he's more, I think, what if? Yeah, I think at this point it's more Chicago legend, not NBA. He's a legendary NBA character, but not a legendary career. Okay. I would say no for D-Ros right now. MVP's insane, though. I know, but there's that a lot to go after it. Is every MVP a legend? You kind of have to be. Yes. I think most

MVPs are like half to be won by legends. Yeah. Okay. Oh, Russell Westberg. Is Russell Westbrook a legend? Yes. Yes. He is a legend. Okay. Yeah, Russell's a legend. Hands down. Legendary, greatest carry job MVP to people? 100% 100% yeah like when it comes to thinking about athletic point guards like you don't go too far on that list without getting to Russell West but he's easily one or two of all time in that category legendary Chris Paul

yes yes okay I was some hesitation what's going on here Chris Paul's a legend my goodness everybody shut down what the hell he's looked at me yes now straight call of us he's a legend yeah so actually no he's a legend Chris Paul's a legend okay We're at 14 legends in the NBA right now. Is there a 15th? We're missing. Nobody from the Grizzlies. Nobody from the Jazz.

Nobody from the Kings. Can Anthony Edwards one day be a legend? Absolutely. One day. Yes. The second that they go ahead and move Minnesota to the Eastern Conference, he's going to go sit.

He's going to make the final so many times. Oh, we're bearing the lead here. He's on the way, though. Hey, my bad. My bad for not saying this name faster. Yeah. Is Victor Woman Yama already a legend in some ways?

Maybe one day. A Victor Wombeerjordi. Just one day. We know what's coming. You know what's funny? If he got a catastrophic injury retired today, I think he'd be kind of like an urban legend based on like how unique he was and how singularly powerful of a defender he was.

Not the conversation we're putting on actually on there, but there would be some hilarious argument for it for just three years. That's not. Maybe one. That's so disrespectful to AD. He's done everything for you right now and you're catering and you're vouching for a fucking Wemby right now. That's so funny.

AD can do anything and everything It still doesn't matter. That's funny. Wemby is already way more legendary than AD. I love AD. One of my favorite players ever. I love because I was a Lakers fan, senior champion.

I love Anthony Davis. Wemby is so much more legendary. That's crazy. What legendary means to people, so much more legendary than AD. Legend? Wait for it. Damn.

When be such a unique case, though, like to be this level of prospect, big up this much, and be this good so fast. Like, there is something legendary, too, expectations he has. I gotta see one player for him and you can sign me up on that.

Yeah. Wemby's the clearest maybe one day. Yeah. Remove the maybe. One day he'll be a legend. Yeah, for sure. It'll be baffling if he's not a legend. I agree.

So the real question is, at what age will he become a legend? How many more years until Wemby crossed? I think 25. I mean, this year when they win the title. If they win the title, if they make the finals this year, is he a legend?

Yes. 100%. No, no, I think you have to win it. Okay. I think you have to win it. He's got to play 65 games. He's good. If he wins DPLY and goes to the finals, I think you're a legend.

At like 22 years old? Yeah, you're a legend. Is he 21 or 22? He's 22. Yeah. Yeah, he's 22. DPOI and taking your team to the finals when you weren't supposed to be that good right away at 22 is pretty legendary.

No one thought he was going to do that shit at all. He's a legend. And he'll probably be top five in the MVP ballot first team. You're a legend. Oh, that'd be legendary. But he's going to be a finalist. It's going to be top three. Damn.

That'd be pretty fucking legendary. That's crazy. Joel Embed, is he our last legend on here? again MVP Joel and Beat is clearly a legend yeah better case than D Rose yeah he's a legend yeah Joelle Mbeat is absolutely a legend B-Soles is a fucking

hater isn't throw it any Eastern conference player he just hates on I feel like if A D isn't a legend how is him B because he was way better at his peak he was an MVP he's the best player in the world for a period of time him and Nicole Yokic was a 1A1B conversation for a period of time Jimmy Anthony Davis never reached that high

It was never 1B it absolutely i mean we i'm obviously going to prefer nicoly yokage but you can perfectly understand why they're equal footing in terms of people's eyes absolutely yeah because of what and b what is defectively too it was it was one b thing yeah or two let's say two i guess if you want to say not so distant seconds they were in the convo as the best player in the world ad never reset 2020 ad no no i mean for the bubble he was that with the jump shooting he was crazy 2020 bubble AD was legendary for sure I would probably

probably got to see it a little more times outside the bubble I'm happy respect and EBMB man That's a good list A lot of no Larry's Okay No Larry's sorry bro Fucking Celtic fans Come on mute his mic

No Larry Unplug his cords No Larry I think I said religion to league right now All right 15 soon to be 20 Tough tough list I feel better that we put in B here

now that I'm like looking at D. D.D. and Paul Zords. I don't know why I mentioned it. Yeah, I think if you're best in the world caliber for a four-year stretch, you're probably a legend. That's kind of the baseline. It's kind of the Luka thing where like if you are in the tier one of players in the league for a four-year stretch, you're probably a legend.

Yeah. What's the four-year stretch for Luca? Where is tier one? The last four years of his Mavericks career when he was first team all-N-B. And people consider them at that level. actually you're right he is I guess if we're gonna get real specifically the tiers he's like top of second tier because he was never

Embed in Yokish level but I think some a lot of people consider that to be a wider tier where I think it was just those two in Janus I wouldn't have put Luca here I would have said maybe one day I would have said he's real close and that's our legend tier I feel good about this he got no MVP's

yeah I think Lucas like one one accomplishment away from England yeah he's beard grown oh my god I didn't say all that. Beard girl. I did not say all that.