The Deep 3 Podcast - We Picked EVERY NBA Team That Should Trade For Giannis Antetokounmpo

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I thought that we would never be able to get up here, sit in front of these cameras, look each other in the eye, and say this sentence. But we are finally here, I think. It seems that the Janus Antenacupo Traits saga has officially begun. We are here to do an emergency live reaction video clip of sorts to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Because, man, it's in a long road to get here. A lot of theorizing, a lot of defending of the Buck's honor from Bucks fans saying he'll never want to leave. He's here for life. You guys are stupid for suggesting that he'll ever get traded. Pershams, Justin, Yannis and his agent have started conversations with the Bucks about the two-time NBA MVP's future and discussing whether his best fit is staying or going elsewhere. Spoiler, they only ask that question if they already know the answer. I can't believe they made us two weeks into the year, come up here, and apologize for their little run.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Man, y'all make me sick to my stomach. Well, they didn't make us do anything. But listen, Ryan Rollins hoops for that first week, we had some hope in our hearts. Bucks fans did too they started off what was the record like four and one or something they had a good first week they were getting the most of what they could with this new I guess re-vamped version team young athletic running around started off well yonis goes out that'll win a single game we get here now and we thought this would be a year where yonis is going to try his hardest to win but we'd probably get to the playoffs and they'd lose in the
Starting point is 00:01:21 first round again and then we get to next summer and we say okay I tried my hardest I gave the city one last chance one last opportunity to prove to me that I should be here but it's not going to happen. Well, turns out one small blip losing that stretch the head to start. They didn't lose to just anyone. They lost to the Washington Wizards. You're right. Nevermind. So they had a calamity type loss losing to the Wizards and
Starting point is 00:01:40 apparently they made Yannis Cotto's agent. Delete all of his Instagram posts pertaining to the Milwaukee Bucks and say, man, we got to figure some shit out because it's not going to work here. First of all, I told y'all so. I told y'all so. For years, y'all tried to believe that this man was loyal, that
Starting point is 00:01:56 he was just, the picture perfect i'm going to stay here through thick and thin he's told us this every time he touched the mic we knew that this was going to happen at any point in time that there is no way unless they traded for unless the bucks got blessed with a lucidant's trade and they somehow got anthony edwards on their team you knew that yonis was going to do it again we thought maybe you know he'll probably go to to the all-star break right we'll see how the team is looking you know 50 games in 60 games in maybe he'll do that that way we can get a lot of pressure to get this motion started it's not Christmas it's not even December 25th he's already saying I'm out I told y'all this man was
Starting point is 00:02:38 going to leave you he was always going to leave you and it was overly apparent there's been non-stop conversation throughout the summer reporting from shams remember in the that non-report report report of like yonis is open to thinking about you know where he where he's going to go he's leaving he's going elsewhere. That's what this is. There was a report in the summer that he was opening his options. It was worried very vaguely.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I think clearly for a good reason, I think a lot of Bucks fans took that as Shams just wants something to talk about. He's just making shit up, blah, blah, blah, just like trying to convince themselves that it was unsubstantive for selfish reasons on Shams part for ESPN TV ratings
Starting point is 00:03:20 or whatever other selfish reasons they assumed. I don't believe that to be Shams as Emma whatsoever. It really never has been. I guess they were convinced themselves like when the ESPN was going to make him this TV ratings whore that makes stuff up for stuff
Starting point is 00:03:30 well, shame did give us the biggest lie of all time when he was like this is going to be the craziest all season I don't even think that he said that because of this Janus news
Starting point is 00:03:39 it just happened to be slightly delayed because he tried to see it through he had his wife moved to Greece so they didn't have to complain about Wisconsin anymore or anything like that
Starting point is 00:03:48 and this was on the table with the whole time I don't even think he lied I think he just got way too ahead of himself as every report does and wanted to be first to this piece of news and you think that's what it is i 100% think that's what it is i think it's that this is i that only comes out via shams if it's conveyed to him he's not a
Starting point is 00:04:06 reporter that goes out and digs through things talking like stuff is given to him he's at that stature right i think that yon has put it out there in that way very specifically to float it and say we're thinking about this but nothing certain yet i'm going to give it one try but lay the groundworks that was the groundworks and this is the next step this is also worded very very specifically for specific reasons and specific M.O.s on Yonis's part to control the image of this. He wants to look like who remains loyal. It's PR control.
Starting point is 00:04:32 This does not say Yonis has requested a trade. This means Yonis is going to request a trade. Apparently it's worded that they're going to have a dialogue and they're going to decide if it's the best opportunity here for him or not. What do you think the GM is going to say? Yes, this is your best opportunity. What do you think the agent is going to say? And what do you think Yonis thinks? No, this is not
Starting point is 00:04:48 your best opportunity. The dialogue is two people with a clear position that are clearly going to go to whatever Yonis wants. And this would not be a conversation, a dialogue that needs to be had if his mind wasn't already made up. And that is why I have no respect for this. That is why. I do have respect for taking control of your career
Starting point is 00:05:06 for saying I want to be elsewhere. Stand on it and officially request the trade. This is multiple times throughout this entire saga that we just laid out where you have not come out and actually said, if you want to go, go. And just come out and say that. You want him to tweet out something, Chris cryptic?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yes. Well, no. Well, he already did it. He did his post. You already acted like a college student and scrubbed your entire social media of everything with the books. You've done everything except for go. Literally when I saw that he scrubbed his Instagram, I looked up his age.
Starting point is 00:05:42 You're 30 years old. Say that you want to go. Do what every other NBA star does and say, I am requesting a trade. I do not want to be here and do that. the idea that that he can continue to spin his PR and spin the perception to allow himself to be viewed as this loyal guy that is what I have a problem with I have no problem if he doesn't want to be in Milwaukee if he wants to go somewhere else that is not the case at all do you but you just have to be so be straight up with it yeah for me personally I do think that he wants
Starting point is 00:06:14 to go but he tried everything in this power to want to stay yes and once they went ahead and traded away, Damiel Lur, and decided to cut his contract and stretch it over the last next few years for Miles Turner, which was their all-in move. He was like, all right, fuck it, bet. Like, I guess I'm going to see how this pans out and how it works out. And it did for two weeks. Don't talk about the last few weeks at all, but it did. And I think this is something that has been weighing on his heart genuinely because we all
Starting point is 00:06:42 hear about how he's on the streets of Milwaukee, tried fucking smoothies for the first time in America or whatever. He used to walk to practice and some more shit like that. Like, he grew up in Milwaukee, Damiener, when it comes to the latter part of his adulthood, bro. So it's hard. I don't think he wanted to, but for his, he's a sick man, anybody who's up to this level, Michael Jordan LeBron. If you're an all-time grade, you have to be sick to a degree. You have this unwilling, passion, desire to win.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You just can't do that here anymore. So it's a tear in his heart, genuinely. Yeah, I think we, like, if there's ever a way to psychoanalyze the psyche of a star, Yonis has given us many, many things to bolster those claims with. It's very easy to understand him. He wants to be loyal. Has every reason not to be. Knows he needs a request of trade,
Starting point is 00:07:23 has done so much to soft launch this trade to make it not sting. He doesn't want to have his jerseys burn like LeBron James did when he left Cleveland. All this is clearly in his mind. And now we're here. And as you see by the title, we are today going to talk through all this, obviously, and our reactions to the move him as a player, what we think about him, think about the bucks, et cetera. But go through all the possible, in our minds, early trade destinations.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Because this probably will come down to Janus deciding where he wants to go for the most part. he's that stature of player and has that relationship with his franchise that I assume they will try their hardest to send him where he wants to go unless it's absolutely unfeasible without them getting any type of return. If it's possible for them to get a decent return,
Starting point is 00:08:01 he will go to his preferred destination, I'm pretty sure. We don't know what that his destination is yet. So we'll talk through what we think he might want, what we think that bucks might want, any other team that might come to our minds is a possible yonest trade. Okay. The first, obviously like the first team
Starting point is 00:08:14 is the one that that it's us. you know what I'm saying is us we got a report this morning actually before shams broke this coincidence probably not Brian one horse was on I think radio
Starting point is 00:08:27 or maybe his podcast it was radio it was radio and he was saying last summer that Janus basically said trade me to the Knicks
Starting point is 00:08:34 you know we already heard mumblings that there was dialogue between the bucks and the Knicks about Janus in a trade but it didn't it wasn't worded
Starting point is 00:08:42 in the initial report I don't remember who reported it before the season started it wasn't worded that Janus said sent me to the Knicks it was worded like the Knicks
Starting point is 00:08:48 reached out or the bucks reached out and like has some kind of entry level dialogue but it didn't go anywhere for reason X or Y depending on which team wasn't there. Brian Winners came out this morning and said that only happened because Yannis said that's the only place I'll go this summer before he said I'll go out one more year and try. And now we have today. Shams reported that and I'm shepter aggregated it. I guess they're on TV together when this came out. Knicks emerged as the only team that Yonis expressed an interest in over the summer. So that brings us today. That's the natural starting point in these conversations.
Starting point is 00:09:17 do you want to see you to be a Nick Donovan as a Knicks fan will start there? Of course. Are you sure? You want this level of scammer on your team right? You just talked about how he's, you had to check his age other day. Yes, I did have to do that.
Starting point is 00:09:31 You can put up with a lot when people are talented. So I will say yes. And like we've had, we had conversations a couple weeks ago about if the Knicks should trade for AD. And I was like, I don't know, like it seems kind of busy. If you keep making these. trades like year in and year out and I still feel that same way if they make this move for yonis because once again like you're deviating from the plan and to go get yonis not only do you have to
Starting point is 00:09:57 put cat in the deal just like for for many reasons and just you know for value you're also going to have to give up either mikhail or ogy and it's a it's a really big change in in how the team construction is going to be but this is one of the three best players on the planet he is 30 years old It's not, it's not too old to where it feels like a traditional Knicks move where you go and trade for the star when he's past his prime or anything like that. I do think it would work. I would like to see it. But I don't, I don't think it's going to get done. Because if I were, if I were the Bucks GM, there's other moves that we can make that if they are offered to me, I feel are much better options than what the Nix can potentially offer the Bucks.
Starting point is 00:10:44 you know but but as a as a fan obviously i would like to have one of the three to five best players on the planet i don't think it has to have cat i think you could also get to that money i saw on twitter different people given their early fancibo trade ideas yeah i think i saw different versions i had josh heart and ogy i don't know if ogy is more untouchable do than cat but i think they could get there via that route because they're not in second apron right or are they they are they are okay so that means they can aggregate so they have to get out the second apron first and then aggregate those two so it's like yeah like you have to like cat and Cat would have to be there.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Also because the Knicks don't have like the greatest chest of picks to offer, which is why for a team that's trading away Janus or that a team, yeah, a team that's trading away Janus, you know that you're going to be bad. You want to rebuild. We're going to rebuild with late first round picks. That's what I'm saying. It's not really going to happen. Those are not super valuable.
Starting point is 00:11:36 For you guys, I love it. But for the Milwaukee books, like you guys easily have the least attractive treasure test of assets out there in the market. I'd rather talk to the team like the San Antonio Spurs or a team that I've been semi-joking around in the Indiana Hawks or wherever else. You guys are dead last on the end because you guys have no enticing young pieces. O.G.'s middle of his prime. Same thing for Macau Bridges.
Starting point is 00:11:59 There's nothing else that moves at all you guys. You guys just traded, what, four, five first round picks a year ago for Macau Bridges? So it's like, I feel like you guys are tapped out in terms of having real attractive assets and Milwaukee Bucks fans at least. being super happy. But if we got this trade idea for it. But if we can scam, let's scam. I'm all for it.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I don't want this for you. Someone threw out OG, Mikhail, Dottier, Colick, and Huckporty. So keep mind, this only way he becomes a Nick is if he says, I want to be a Nick and everybody else I will retire if you trade for me. Like he full on demands it and does that move. And they say, okay, we'll get it done. Maybe they don't want Kat. Maybe they'd rather do this and the reroute OG and bridges and like try to get the picks
Starting point is 00:12:40 from various teams for that and like do a mass amount of picks and like, some young, interesting guys, if you think Okome will become anything, I don't know. So, we really don't even to spend that much time talking about what this would be because this will only be if he demands it, right? Yeah. What's the fit like?
Starting point is 00:12:57 So let's say it's the trading this version. You keep Kat and you have a stretch five next to Janus. Do you like Brunson and Janus as a duo? Knowing what we know about how he fit with Damien Lillard versus Drew Holiday and the differences in ball handlers there, knowing what we know about who Jalen Brunson is more like in those two players,
Starting point is 00:13:13 Do you see them being able to, like, actually maximize those two and make this worth it for a short window? Yeah, because I think Brunson's better, or at least in, from what we've seen this year, Brunton has shown that he can play off ball. And we are seeing a very good version of Brunton playing off ball. We've seen him play with an ultra dominant. Obviously, he wasn't at the, at the statute that he is right now. But we've seen him play with an ultra on ball guy with Luca. to even worse degree, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Exactly. And that team was still successful. I think if any... To be fair, though. That he wasn't like the starter, main guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But he...
Starting point is 00:13:53 It's just a little different. Okay. Specifically in that run, though, Brunson did, did come on and was like that guy for them and was legitimately the second creator for that team and they were playing them together. Again, obviously,
Starting point is 00:14:08 he wasn't Jalen Brunson, all NBA level player. Like, it wasn't the same thing. it's not one-on-one. But we've seen him be able to do that. I think adding Janus is awesome. I think it would work. I think that Mike Brown also, if this was under Tibbs, I probably wouldn't do it. Because I don't think that the offense that Tibbs wants to run is indicative of having three stars that can play off of each other. It really is. Jalen is your turn. Yonis is your turn. Kat, it's your turn. Those are pretty good players to take some turns with.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It is, but take turn offense is not something that, like, necessarily always works. And keep in mind, Yonis does not want to set screens to a high degree clearly. We learned that Damien Loderre. He will set screens that maybe it's dramatized a little bit, his unwillingness to do that. But he clearly prefers to be the ISO ball in his hands, read the floor, make the reads point forward type of big man. Yeah. He can do that with Jaylon Brunson. They can get away with taking turns and isolation because they're both that talented.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And Yannis can do some Dunker Spot stuff while Jalen Brunson does that. Jason Brunson can run off ball actions and still be spaced the floor. So if you're going to think about Yannis playing Yonis ball, I think Jindon Brunson makes sense next to him. Obviously, Kat would make sense as a special stretch five. Do you think Yonis is one to play some center, though? If you have to trade Kat to get this done and he goes there, I don't want to put Mitchell Robinson next to him.
Starting point is 00:15:27 We've clearly seen we want to stretch five next to Yonis if we can. Open up those rushing lanes, the passing lanes. Do you want to see him play center with OG next to him? Because he's getting older. It's probably at some point going to have to be a pivot of his. Do you think he's willing that? And do you want to see the next be the one he doesn't? up with that's just who he's that's just what you're dealt with at this point in time right i if you're
Starting point is 00:15:48 telling me that i have who knows what what players end up being traded but you have at least barrenum even after this if the trade was to happen you'll have two good very good 3d players who can do all the good all around stuff connective pieces that you want on long side or in between jane brown and yonis if that is the case i think that'll be fine he should be okay with that because that offense would be so incredibly nuclear with Kat and Jalen Brunson and whatever else in between. So I think that's perfectly fine. Well, this is, that's kind of why I do think, I do think Kat does have to be in, in the deal because I think that, I think that Jalen can, uh, I think Jalen can play off ball and even,
Starting point is 00:16:29 and we can do the, the take turn stuff. Yonis would have much more, I think, leeway, or not, not leeway, but just space to operate and not having to get Cat involved and everything. Like, Cat's already in a weird position where he's still trying to figure out where his role is in this system. What if his role is you're just not here? Damn.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And we have Brunson and Yonanis. Your role is Kyle Kuzma duo. Yeah, like, what if that's it? Because having, like, if you do make that trade where you keep Brunton and you keep Kat, yo, we got to trade OG and Mikhail. Like, like where do the wings come in from in this in this team big bride welcome to the starting lineup yeah like we're playing we're
Starting point is 00:17:11 we're gonna start brunson deuce josh hart yonison cat it's a it's a weird collection of guys you have zero depth i'm not sure how that how that works i would like to keep one of the wings yeah and so if we have if we're doing that cat has to be in the deal yeah i agree i don't think it makes sense to keep cat i mean if you could yeah sure but something got to be sacrificed at the of the day. And I think Cat does alleviate a lot of the weird offensive fits or offensive hiccups that could potentially happen because of his spacing and just where he would allocate a lot of his time around the perimeter. Yeah. We'll see. It really comes down to what Janus wants as far as the Knicks go. He's only there if he demands it. Otherwise, they'll clearly get out
Starting point is 00:17:54 bid. Yeah. Who else? Personally, I will say. Them. I think I think the Hawks would have the best. Okay, this is something that I've been talking about, obviously, like, joking manner or whatever, but I've been dead serious about this. You thought it was playing. Yeah, you thought I was playing. It's bring me the Greek. It's dead serious, right? It's picture perfect.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's made. It's in story books. It's literally a script, bro. Like, we have an emerging ascending star in Jalen Johnson, who so happens to be from Milwaukee every single time. You watch a Hawks broadcast in Milwaukee. The announcers always make it a point to know, oh, he has all of his family members here, bro like oh you want to trade jalen johnson for yonness now i will say at one point in time i did i did what he's been doing over the last over the entire season but especially specifically
Starting point is 00:18:40 these last 10 games i don't even want to do that anymore how would they fit together because i i'll talk about that later yeah because i seeing how he's ascended with his jump shot specifically too i looks like it's legit jason's team yon is fit in fall in line i'm not going to say fit in fall in line It's going to be wonky. He feels that. He feels like Yannis should fall in line to Jalen Johnson. It's going to be won't. Sorry,
Starting point is 00:19:06 DeRail us a quick. I've been thinking about how we were talking about Scottie Barnes today and you mentioned we were talking about players Power 4 you think are better and Jaylon Johnson, one of them. And I was like, no, I'd rather have Scottie Barnes still. That is the most heated debate I'm having internally ahead of our Christmas episode and ranked up 30 players. That's going to be so hard for me to decide because they're both playing so well.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah, yeah. It's tough. It's tough conversations. But when it comes to thinking about, Janice in this mind. Of course, like, everyone's been talking about how the Hawks have the best of New Orleans pick or Milwaukee's pick if they're going to be asked to. And that's going to be, that has to be like the start of the conversation. Yeah, cool. Outside of that, I want to go ahead and give up Christoph's Wazinis. You can have Zachary Rish to say,
Starting point is 00:19:46 and you can have whatever other picks you want to. And I'll be happy with it. What's interesting is, so obviously the Hawks, I'm sure if the Bucks are doing an open search, which actually was reported that they're not going to. Apparently, I think it was Winhorse reported that they will be sending him wherever he wants. That's crazy, but they've been bending their backs down for three years, just doing whatever he wants. And they have to. They're a small market team and their legend.
Starting point is 00:20:05 They probably should do that. But if they were to do an open search, I'm sure the Hawks would be at the top of their list for reasons you said they can get their pickback in this crazy class and have the rest of this season be a tank, which isn't that simple? Can they just get their pick back? Or can you remind me, what are the swap rights like with the Pelicans?
Starting point is 00:20:20 If they do this trade with the Hawks, they had the potential to have the better of that pick, right? Yes, if they do this trade with the Hawks, then they, of course, retain the rights to their own pick if they want, or they have the rights to get the New Orleans Pelicans pick. Okay, so that would be the worst of that.
Starting point is 00:20:33 The Hawks pick themselves wouldn't be a part of that. No. Okay. So this is a trade outline I saw on Twitter here by Andrew. He said the Hawks received Janus,
Starting point is 00:20:43 the Bucks received Christops, Risa Shea, New Orleans Pelicans first, Sacramento Spurs first from 2026 and the 2027 Milwaukee first. So, Christops, Rish Shade a bunch of picks.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I've also seen Trey Young as a part of this some people I saw I think it was was it Bill Simmons who said Trey Young and Porzingis for Yonis
Starting point is 00:21:04 and we'll take Kuzma back so if you want to pivot out the Trey Young thing maybe Trey Young goes there or what you said maybe Jalen Johnson goes there like they have so many avenues to get this done
Starting point is 00:21:12 because they have a ridiculous wealth of picks including the Bucks picks several interesting young players that can be a nucleus of your deal you can either go for picks
Starting point is 00:21:20 and have the expiring money of Risha Shay you can go for Jalen Johnson to be your new best player or maybe some kind of in between paths where you're taking on Trey Young because you're also dumping Kyle Kuzma
Starting point is 00:21:29 and you're going towards a cap space and take on money to get more picks in the future deal. Lots of possible avenues. Yeah. What would be your favorite one as a Hawks fan? My favorite one as a Hawks fan would be to retain someone like Trey because he helps make this work
Starting point is 00:21:44 and having someone like Jalen Johnson who's only getting paid like $30 million a year for the next five years. He's on one of the best contracts in the league because he just protects the future from collapsing on his fucking face. like we tend to see whenever these monumental trades happen.
Starting point is 00:22:00 There's a reason why, like, no matter what happens with the Orlando Magic, they're good because they got a solid core young guys that are going nowhere. Jalen's also will provide that type of insurance no matter what. A lot of people were saying, congratulations to the,
Starting point is 00:22:11 we've got here saying, congratulations to the Atlanta Hawks for their trade for Yannis. This does feel like the most logical outcome for everybody if logic is the deciding factor. Yeah, and I'm so complete, also someone who we haven't talked about at all for whatever reason
Starting point is 00:22:24 and someone who's, I don't know how real it is, is, but he did get better. Nikiel Alexander Walker is a demon. He makes the depth piece of this conversation when it comes to Atlanta, potentially giving up a lot, feel so much better because you could easily slide him up to that starting lineup, but he could be, he could play the two if we eventually do get off someone like Dyson Daniels, give him Chris Hosers, and maybe Zachary say, and a fucking pick.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Not even, you got it. Getting off of Dyson Daniels, I'm pretty cool with starting him at point guard, Nikolzander Walker, if in a Yonis trade scenario, where it's Janus is your. main guy now because you traded tray young and you have your killer's under walker dyson daniels i guess richard shay's left over maybe you go jaylinson johnson route or the christops route because of this point i'm sorry jalen johnson or risha shay yannis on yucca i'm kind of okay with that but yonis being like your main ball handler and then nikolajana's providing enough secondary ball handling that
Starting point is 00:23:15 maybe that because a problem in the playoffs for yonis has bliss too much and you need more of non-ball creator and made to make another move in the future i don't know but in a tray trey young scenario around yonis specifically i'm kind of okay when the killer zander walker the other off-guard. I think this is the perfect pivot to make after finding out that the guy that you invests so much time in isn't the franchise player. There's no other better mover scenario or situation that we could have found ourselves potentially.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Is that you accepting defeat with Trey? I got a top 15 player on my roster, potentially speaking. I love Trey so much. You don't understand. But it's Janus, a two-time MVP and a DPO on my team. I thought you meant Jalen Johnson's a top 15 player. no top of people of all time yonis i mean we're talking about like pivoting from the treyung era and having a peak of his power is yonis yo everything you go to hell i would not really so
Starting point is 00:24:07 nix but it does it does it does make sense and and i do think i do think the bucks should do do this and i've thought about this a lot especially like with the with the dame trade a couple years ago where it's like yo you should send your you know your your franchise legend you should be do right by them and send them to where to where they want to go man forget that you go wherever i say like god that's what i'm saying we've had our our time together you are asking out fine you want to go you want to look out for yourself we're going to look out for ourselves i don't care where where you want to go if i get now obviously teams will know that yonis wants to go to a specific spot and they will react accordingly and they'll give out packages now if the packages are not up to the up to par in terms
Starting point is 00:24:54 of where his preferred destination is, then obviously you make the right choice for you and you send him to the preferred destination. It's a win-win in there. But if you have a situation where the Hawks are offering this package and they are giving you this opportunity to have the New Orleans pick this year, or you send them to the Knicks
Starting point is 00:25:10 where the NICS package is maybe a little bit subpar. Buddy, get ready to speak, Magic City. You're going to Atlanta. I'm not sending you to New York if it is to the detriment of us. So that's why I do think that the Hawks, the hawks and everything that they can potentially offer. If they want to go that way, he should be a hawk.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yeah, I think it makes sense. I think it's a little bit different than Dane, just because Janus has successfully done the virtue signaling, has successfully done the soft launching of the trade, has successfully done the, I promise I want to be loyal. I want to be here, I swear. I think that's worked. I think the fans believe him.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I think the bucks know the fans believe him. And it would be. He's going, hey, when I get the smear campaign, it would be real hard for the, looks to look. So Janus was actually annoying. Many people in the building were upset at the, at the nepotism,
Starting point is 00:25:58 bringing in the nascent. You would be the worst writer ever. I think there's probably enough goodwill there. They have to do those into your correct destination. But that's, I mean, that's as long as Janus requests a reasonable destination. He doesn't say no dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Like, send me to the Thunder and they're like, no, we don't want to do that. I mean, honestly. The Thunder have, the Thunder have stuff that they get trade. Yeah, but they don't want to.
Starting point is 00:26:19 We're not even talking about them because they're above that now. They're going to win 74 games without them. They don't want to mess with anything. Yeah. Yeah, they're so straight. So I do think that probably the best suitor for both teams is the Atlanta Hawks in terms of assets, picks, young players who could be solid enough for you, whether it be, I wouldn't want to do it right now.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Trey Young going in there being one of the showing why he could be a solid floor razor for this team that just is in despair and has nothing going for themselves or if it is like other pieces and Dyson Daniels and Chris Hops was doing it, so whatever, you have that. pick you're good you're good but outside from that that's when we see i think a clear number two teams in terms of like assets and what would we will be really enticing for the milwaukee books and that's when the san antonio spurs enter the conversation okay yep back in the next time we talk about spurs obviously it'd be awesome to see janus playing next to virtual woman yama everybody's thought on twitter is spurs get it done we need to see this it'd be great for basketball
Starting point is 00:27:23 Who's untouchable in that deal? Who's untouchable? So this, and this is the exact, this is why if I'm the spurs, out of pure convenience, we're not having the conversation. Because I don't want to have to go through and pick who has to go.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And especially in light of the way that the Oklahoma City Thunder have operated, I'd be so nervous to trade away a young guard to another team that you already know is going to be. good. Everybody knows that Dylan Harper is going to be that guy. I'd be so nervous to trade him away at this point in his career. And it's like, all right, well, we just gave Fox this money. I think,
Starting point is 00:28:05 I think we want him. Stefan Castle is extremely versatile and is leveling up and he's a good player. We probably need him for some depth. Let's keep him. We just talked about Dylan Harper. It's like, well, I got Kelton Johnson for you. I got Jeremy Sohan and I got Devin Vassel. Like, if you want to keep a majority of these pieces and still be you know kind of pot committed to your to your youth movement yeah I don't really see where the spurs part ways with any of their guys so I got this trade pulled up
Starting point is 00:28:33 I was looking on Twitter to see somebody put out a possible money working without Deeran Fox because Deer & Fox at the extension in the summer I don't think he's one of the guys that can be traded at December 15th I have a feeling it's either January 15th or not at all this year I can't remember distinction there sometimes people get extended and the whole season they can't be traded like Larry Markman last year it's I think it has to do if it's
Starting point is 00:28:52 either before or after August 15th. And he was before, so maybe he can't get traded after January 15th. But let's assume they want to keep Dearon Fox. So they want to win now if they're getting the Yonest thing done. This potential trade has Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson, Stefan Castle, Carter Bryant's, and two first round picks plus a pick swap going for Yonis and Cole Anthony. So it can't get done, money-wise, without Deeran Fox. But obviously, Carter Bryant, who he just got, who was a, I think, very promising wing,
Starting point is 00:29:20 fitting long-term defensively next to Victor Momyama. that's gone Stefan Castle that's gone like you had to part with some young players outside of just picks obviously
Starting point is 00:29:27 is that is that worth it for going all in now to win with these two second and third best big man in the world this is the dog shit trade for the Milwaukee books
Starting point is 00:29:35 but I would say this is 100% worth it think about what we've been talking about you get multiple first round picks which is obviously good they're not giving me I am not giving up a top 15 overall player
Starting point is 00:29:45 of all time for Stefan Castle is the main catalyst got to get this like fair value shit out of your head Janus will not could trade for fair value And I understand that even though, even then.
Starting point is 00:29:55 That 29 first round pick might as well be a second. Yeah. If I'm trading Janice and Wembe, that's going to be 20 or later. How many times you said this in course of history? It is. How many times you said this? Do you understand? Do you understand?
Starting point is 00:30:08 How many times have we said this? How many times do you say this about the Clippers? I do get it. You never know. Darren Fox can't be traded until February 4th. Okay. So that complicates it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:18 The Hawks pick obviously right now in the moment. I like it. I'm always down to get a pick swap with the Kings. I'm always down to do that. So it's going to be tough. I think ultimately, though, if you do have Wembe and Yanhus in your front court, you're going to be. Everything else works around that. You can live.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And it makes more sense now that you have Deerrin than it did prior because you know who your ball handlers are. are going to be as opposed to just we have these two guys and now who's really going to dribble the ball I would like this more than I did nine months ago it's still a little scary but obviously you're getting Janus. At the end of the day
Starting point is 00:31:06 you'll be okay. You'll sleep fine knowing that Janus is on your team now. So they do this trade they start Fox, Harper Old man why my blinking Harrison Barnes Janice and Wemby go with the double point guards, double bigs Harrison Barnes in the middle I guess so.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I mean, obviously it's an insanely talented team. That sounds to me like if you go, if you, if they go down this path, probably sounds to me like we're a year away from a Deer and Fox trade and trade him for some off ball wings and have one day Dylan Harper get the keys in year two or year three.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Then we move off Deer and Fox for a shooting guard small forward combination to break up the money. No, duct the second year bring it a little bit cheaper get some more off ball players there. Obviously, if you're getting honest and you believe that that puts you in championship contention right away,
Starting point is 00:31:50 having yonis and wimby as you should believe that's worth it we can figure that out on that team yo kitchen that's it yeah that's nobody else even then getting double team by wendy yianniz is crazy bro if i got double team by yonnes and wimby i would think i'm in hell just number of trees around me
Starting point is 00:32:06 so yeah it really comes down to are the spurs ready to make the solid move that's all it decides like do they feel like they should pair those two up for timeline reasons for money reasons long term do they feel like now is the time to go in do they feel like wemby's in a position to be healthy and contend if so ring that fucking bill.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I think even if you don't think Wemby is 100% in the, okay, so like obviously you want Wembe to be there, but his health stuff that's, this is, this is two years where something, you know, some injury has happened, something is taking him off the court. Having Yannis has a backup plan, right? Yonis has as insurance. Backup plan. Right? To, to carry you through any, any month long, six weeks stretch that Wembe is not there is the best
Starting point is 00:32:48 thing that you can have. Yep. And so it takes your floor to another level. So I think from that standpoint, I would be overly eager to go and trade for Yonis. Yeah, especially considering if you don't have to give a Dylan Harper, hey, man, like, do it in a heartbeat. We're scamming. Again, like this is the old, having some type of young pieces, like how I compared the Orlando matches of the Hawks in terms of Dylan Johnson. Dylan Harper is also that considering how elite level of a prospect that he's showing that he was last year and how he is this year, he had.
Starting point is 00:33:19 he has the potential to be one of the better point guards of the league you're fine with whatever happens right if you have him on your roster and also wemby of course bro you have yonis you get yonis and wendy for the next four years yonis turned 35 maybe he falls off at 35 then you get year four harper and wemby for five more years until wemby starts getting to the end of his prime oh my god it's disgusting now can you keep that together i don't obviously we're talking about fantasy here but that is a good path to go down i i the spurs should get it done i think if they're if they're confident and their ability to win a champion this year with Yannis,
Starting point is 00:33:50 there's no reason you shouldn't be a spur. True. Is there anybody else outside of these three? Like the crazier ones that, like who's the craziest team that you guys think can jump in here? Well, obviously, you know, Twitter goes to, does Rob Plinka got one more in him? Does Rob Polika got one more scamming him?
Starting point is 00:34:08 God, no. Can you give me one more day? We'd have to veto. Can you give me one more day? We'd have to step in. But now, we say that, I guess like a joke. Of course they can't get him. Austin Reeves.
Starting point is 00:34:18 is an enticing trade piece if you are the bucks and you want to like he's a star now and you want to trade for him to pay him in the summer and have him be your pivot like that's not
Starting point is 00:34:26 that's no longer like cute and stupid no like that probably is something to consider for the bucks like Austin Reeves being a 28 points of a game score right now
Starting point is 00:34:34 entering his prime also level player that you can come in pay him and get a next four years building around him that's at least somewhat enticing
Starting point is 00:34:41 to talk about outside of Lakers fans being idiotic now with that being said I don't want to see Luca and Yanis play together why not sounds fun
Starting point is 00:34:48 Do you think Janus wants to set enough screens possible? Absolutely. For a Luca offense to make sense? No. Do you think Luca wants to play off ball enough for a Janus offense to make sense? Just let them go their own ways. If they did this, obviously I would be happy. I will be excited.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I'll convince myself it'll work. It'll be a fun time. It would be too talented not to me. I don't know if that's true. Okay. So maybe you're right. Maybe to some degree it will work. They will win games.
Starting point is 00:35:11 But I don't think it would be as foolproof as you would think. Because you hear that and you think, oh, this is Shaq and Kobe. This is like, this is Steph and KD. Like, I do think there would be enough drawbacks that that just sounds like setting myself up to have the most disappointing team in NBA history on my team. If it was just them to, okay, multiple things. One, I would hope that it is the most disappointing team. That's one. Two, you have those two guys and then you have LeBron in the middle like, guys, let's get a lot, right?
Starting point is 00:35:39 And you have, and you have LeBron as this ultimate mediator between these two guys. I'll set the screen. Y'all just do what you want. Yeah. that's that would that would be the ultimate pivot for the for the lakers yeah and you have you have so much talent you have so much sick on that team between yonis lebron lucca j jay like it would i i do think it would work have you considered have you considered before i'll let you get into your thing go ahead that they would have the most roster spots dedicated to family
Starting point is 00:36:10 and NBA what's new in l a brawny fanassist and Alex are on the lakers and bucks co-sports used to be on the Lakers, we're getting the whole game together on that bench. Oh, you're right. Whoever does end up trading for Yonis, you have to bring the brothers to. That's crazy. You gotta have the support system
Starting point is 00:36:24 where it's not worth it. Yeah. Do you want Yons move across the country and not have a support system? I'll crash. That's three roster spots to Nepidt's. Honestly, don't.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I would entertain this Yonis of the Lakers conversation more, but it just doesn't make sense money-wise because, you know, Austin reasons only get paid like, what, 14, 15 years or so. So that's just like...
Starting point is 00:36:41 Well, they're not in an apron team, so they could, they could agree. They could get there. The only reason it wouldn't make sense. It's not really not the hard because they have a lot of dead money right now. It's worthless. Yeah. Like they have Maxie Cleba's contract.
Starting point is 00:36:50 They have Gabe Minson's contract, Rui, which is probably somewhat valuable to the bucks. Like, they could do it money-wise. They obviously got the team and it would be another like, we need one more summer to refresh now. The question is, would the bucks have any desire to send them to Lakers? It would only, obviously, like, it would only happen if he said, give me the Lakers now, I want them and only them. And if that's the case, do they even care? Because obviously they could only get one first-on-pick back for the Lakers right now. it could be Reeves salary one pick and like two swaps i would do that i honestly like that
Starting point is 00:37:17 way more than whatever the nix could offer you really because yeah because austin reese he's a no because austin rees is the ultimate floor raiser but he's proven to like be able to average it sounds insane 27 eight and seven those insane numbers no one on the nix can give me that of course like whatever the hawks have to offer could eventually give me that who knows the following castle is going to be in the future but the potential is clearly there i'm on bar i'm i'm definitely on board with that. Is there a vision here? It is.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I wish there was more picks to give up, but... In the summer, it could be three picks. And in the summer, it gets harder, though, because then Austin Reeves is an unrestricted free agent, so it would be a signing trade, and he had to agree to go to Milwaukee. Right now, you could trade him, and he has less of a say, and he'd probably be okay with, like, if they're saying, we're going to give you a $40 million contract, if we'd execute this trade, you have to assume there's a read part of him, they'd be like, all right, fine.
Starting point is 00:38:04 But in the summer, then he has to fully agree in the moment, and he could just bounce and ruin it. So really if they're going to do it via Austin Reeves Now it's the time to do it I would hate to see this I would I would I would truly hate to see this Adam Silver this is the this is what you're setting right now This is what you're pushed out
Starting point is 00:38:21 This is the greed that people talk about The fit, there's more to the fit being bad Than I think people give it credit for These are the two most like Specific play style players in the NBA That like both need very different things Both need very different things When they're big men too
Starting point is 00:38:35 Like Yon said to play center because Janice wants to stretch five next to him for upmost spacing. Luca wants a rim roller next to him for utmost lob threats. That means that Janus has to be that big in that equation, which complicates things because I don't think he wants to do that. And Luca kind of needs that for his planmaking to make the most sense. Like, obviously, talent, talent, I would not be upset about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:54 But I'm not like jumping for joy. It's not as surefire. Yeah, yeah, as you would think of him in the talent, that it would worry me a little bit. Yeah, that's fair. This is also a time. Matt Ispia, you got one more in you? let's get this going not at HBO
Starting point is 00:39:08 who's the GM of the magic what's his name I don't know have I ever known this is the last name I think it's Who's the GM of the magic Is it Max climbing
Starting point is 00:39:18 or something like that No that's the grisies guy You're thinking climbing Well I think we actually What's funny is I think We picked him For executive of the year Why am I blink
Starting point is 00:39:26 No I picked the Hawks guy Who did who do we pick Yeah who the hell is Either way Why am I blink right now Am I an idiot Anthony Parker Yeah I just did not know
Starting point is 00:39:35 that straight up. I'm just not a ball in the word. Anyway, I've got this tweet here. Palo for Magic might be the offer. I don't know. Hell, I would do this in a heart beat. What do you say hell no? Who do you say hell no for? For both teams, I'm doing this. What? Why do you say hell no? Like, obviously, you just had this like, what? Why? This is the
Starting point is 00:39:53 again, this is what I talk about when it comes to the tray thing, having a superstar that doesn't necessarily work out, this is the best scenario. I wouldn't say Palo hasn't worked out yet, but I know your point. Yeah. But I will say this, obviously, even if Palo has worked out, it's Janus, for fuck's sake. It's Janus, like, he's way better than Palo will ever be. And I can see the books tell themselves that Palo's better than anything they get from anybody else.
Starting point is 00:40:16 It probably would be better than, again, unless that pick, unless that Pelican's pick is on the table, everything else. Well, that almost certainly is on the table. Yeah. So even with that, is Palo a better pick, asset than that? No. I think you. It's too early in the season, though, because we don't know for sure. and with the lottery odds, that might be the seventh pick
Starting point is 00:40:36 in the draft. That would imagine turning down Tyler for the seventh pick in the draft. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I would do this. I would do this in a heartbeat. Like, you got someone who's an all-star. You got someone who has proven to be at least Barman with a floor razor in the playoffs. You're talking to. Like, this is the best scenario for the Milwaukee Buck specifically.
Starting point is 00:40:53 As for the Orlando Magic, I would do this in heartbeat, obviously, because it's accelerates a process as to when you're, when you actually have true championship aspirations. Of course, it makes things a little bit weird when it comes to thinking about Franz Wagner, his shot needs to be fully here,
Starting point is 00:41:09 but with the amount of spacing with the type of passes that Yons will be able to make that we've been asking Pollo to do so, I think it'll be a fine fit, man. Sugs and Bain is the perfect backcourt for Yonis. Couldn't name anything better. I don't know where Franz falls in that equation
Starting point is 00:41:23 with the shooting, like you said. They'll fucking figure it out, hopefully. They need to stretch five. I don't want to see Wend O'Cardez that's out there in this scenario. Send him to try to get Miles back. We've got to figure something out. We've got to figure something out. We got to figure something out.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I don't want to see Window Carter and Yannis. That sounds disgusting as hell. But I don't know. I mean, this is obviously firing from the hip. I doubt the magic you're looking to trade Palo Bancaro. But man, would this be a proactive, genius thing to do? You guys know how I felt about Palo over the years? I'm not like out on Palo saying they need to trade him.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I'm not really saying they're only winning because of he's being gone. But it would be proactive as fuck to notice his flaws, notice his deficiencies that might prevent him from being the top seven player in the world that people want him to be and say, let's go all in now on Janus. We already got the veterans around him. Des and Bain is win now. Suggs is ready to win. Let's go get the guy.
Starting point is 00:42:08 This would be smart as hell. It would because one, it would help maximize the fact that we traded away four first round picks for Desmond Bain. It will maximize the fact that the Eastern Conference is down right now. And you can have this team. You would instantly have the best player in the conference. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And now things would kind of have to run through you guys. The last person who wants to see this done, honestly first and last is Jamal Mosley because the first because the first is like oh bad I got Janus the last is
Starting point is 00:42:40 hey man if this doesn't work out in 15 games you're gone oh and Yonis is folding you up physically and putting you in a suitcase yeah like there's there's nothing there's nothing that should stand in the way of an elite offense
Starting point is 00:42:55 if Janus is on the magic what do we think about this Milwaukee Buck straight idea somebody asked if as a six or van what would it take to get Janus throwing shit out there we got Tony Jones saying if I were the bucks I would ask for the following
Starting point is 00:43:07 Paul George for money VJ Edgecombe Jared McCain took 2028 first on pick from the Clippers the 2029 Clippers first round pick and Philly's 2030 first round pick
Starting point is 00:43:16 I'm not gonna lie not this moves me those yo yo those three picks and two young guards that keep like
Starting point is 00:43:26 I don't know how we feel like that Jeremy King came into the season with the broken hands slow getting started but he's obviously as a rookie for those 16 games, we loved him. I don't know if we think all-star potential is there,
Starting point is 00:43:35 but it's not a 0% all-star potential. Same thing with Vijay Edgecombe might be a very good, like super-souped-up version of like Victor Old Depot meets Avery Bradley on a low end. Might be a superstar. We don't know. Those are two good bets, three elite picks. That's a good package for a superstar.
Starting point is 00:43:50 That moves me. That moves me. Now, I would say I'm just tired of the Philadelphia 7th. She's just like trying to contend. I think they should just do it the regular way and it feels like the basketball gods. I've punished them. over the last few like five to seven years so I don't want to see Janice on this it's like
Starting point is 00:44:06 not the least exciting thing in terms of actual basketball because him and Tyree's Max there's a fucking glove and hand fit bro like that's what we might want to see out of well this is what we probably would want it would have wanted to see out of Dame and Yannis because Tyrese would be more than happy to play off all he's been doing it for most of his fucking career what do you even do with Joelle and Bede and from a team building coaching perspective if you have Yonis bro go go sell tickets for me they go make yeah you can you can be you can be the new mascot you can come out here do the dx top we'll pay we'll pay the fine but i in terms of banking on oh we have this big three of yonis
Starting point is 00:44:41 maxi and imbid that's that's over right yeah the dynasty starts after you now and you would have to try and find a way to move off of mbid or to to really just distance yourself from the idea of imbid being a like legitimate legitimate part of this core but the problem is that's still well and beat. Exactly. Right. Exactly. So you don't do that.
Starting point is 00:45:05 That's not going to be able to happen. So that's also another reason why I don't think that this gets done. But that's also one of the better trade packages. I'm thinking in my head, yo, if I'm from Detroit, dude, I'm doing this. Let's get to work. That's exactly what I'm saying. We've all been talking about a certain $50 million player who happens to stay in Utah right now. I'd rather prioritize this other $50 million player.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And of course, it's going to be a little bit more. expensive but that's why you have all every single one of your picks for still that's why you have conveniently tobias harris is making like 26 million dollars and you have a bunch of other random bets who are just on one year deals and then on top of that too you have a couple of young promising pieces in brawn holland you also got dayton ivy and then oh like assar thompson is there too so you trade two of those young guys plus harris plus four first-time picks you do it as long as assar is still here by not me. I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I have to keep us on. No, I'm doing it. I'm not. Assar and Yonis, though, offensively, it's kind of hard. Enduring? That's, that's, that's the worst. Negative space. That's zero spacing for Kate.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I understand that we can, we can move people around in terms of like starting line of a bench or stuff like that. But I don't know if he keeps and give up Asar, because just for fair reasons. I don't think, even if Assad is best, I don't think that he would be able to, I think he would be more of a cog. There would be more bad that he does because, honest. So the thing is, if you are trading Asar, like, are you trading Assar? Like, are you trading Asar and Duren? No.
Starting point is 00:46:36 No, no. Duran's not going nowhere. That's what I was like. Out of the young guys, who are you trading then? Oh, I mean, it feels up to me. I'd try to say four first round picks, Harris for money. If they want two of my promising young players, best case scenario, the worst ones, Jaden Ivy, for sure. Take them, please.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And Ron Holland. But they probably say that's your worst two players. So I say, okay, Jaden Ivy and Aser. I guess, but I'll keep during Ron Honk could slot into a SAR's role, give a little more spacing one day, hopefully. And so that's why if it costs a SAR
Starting point is 00:47:11 and we are giving up first off obviously it is Janus. I understand that. But I would, if I had the option, I would rather then make the run at Lowry than Janus in this situation. I don't know. That's too much money.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Either way, if you're going to be like moving heaven and earth, to acquire $50 million into your team, like I'd rather go for the best option. I don't think I've seen something from, if I saw a like shot, I don't know. 30% from the three point line. By the way, 33 right now.
Starting point is 00:47:40 By the way. 33 right now. But what is he shooting from the free throw line? Oh, he said free throw line. Oh, you said free throw line as well. I'll check right now. I'll check. From the free throw line, he's shooting like 54%, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Oh, you check? Go to hell. I want you out of my team of Yonis is here. Can't happen. The one, the team is so, the team is so young. and is so promising right now and everything is going really well right now I think that sliding in a guy like Lowry
Starting point is 00:48:05 might be better to where you can still retain a little bit more flexibility instead of trading four first round picks and two young guys for Janice in a situation where because Kate is not a great shooter because Dern is not all this you still have to go you're trading away Tobias now you still have to go out and find shooters
Starting point is 00:48:24 and find all of these guys. We got them already Duncan Robinson is here already Malik Bees is waiting for a call, by the way. Exactly. Things are going to clear soon for him. Did you forget? He's calling collect. Like, come on, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:48:39 Okay, a few more to run through before we're done with this. Miami. Didn't go on in for KD. Saving for somebody, Cluily saving for Yannis. They have Tyler Hero. They have BAM. I don't know if either them are available.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Maybe those are the only two guys that are not available. And you'll give up Norm Powell, trade him again. Give up Ware. Hakez or Yovitch, if they like one of those guys. and then like I don't know how he picks the contrary right now I'm assuming two or three I'll do it yeah why not you get yourself right back into contention you have them yeah yeah I don't know if the bucks like maybe they contend for best package but I find a hard to believe yonis is going to request to go to the heat I'm not I'm not doing it if I'm from the bucks
Starting point is 00:49:13 yeah I mean I think you can find better if you're the bucks depends on the conversations go but I could see it but it's not in my first three most likely outcomes I think yeah Cleveland interesting having a slow start they are a second apron team so in a situation where they have to aggregate money for Janus to pair him and DeMitch, the guy got out of the second apron first. There are $22 million into the second apron. That means they have to dump DeAndre Hunter, who conveniently makes $23 million.
Starting point is 00:49:37 So send him somewhere, anywhere else, say, fuck out of my face, get a pick for him that you can reroute in the Honestrade, obviously. You can get a first-on-pick for DeAndre Hunter right now, I think. I think. Maybe this is...
Starting point is 00:49:48 Yeah, you can. Yeah, you can. It's funny because, like, this wouldn't be a proactive deal, like the magic. This would just be an active deal. Oh, reactive is fun. Yeah. So you dumped your hundred.
Starting point is 00:49:57 get a pick that gives you nothing that they have one right now they can trade so now you have two then maybe you give them a bucks
Starting point is 00:50:02 a package that's based around Garland and Allen one of the other I need Garland if I'm the bucks I need Dary's Garland Garland and Allen two for some picks
Starting point is 00:50:10 Yeah because I know you're not giving up Demits I know you're not giving up Mobley that's fine Mobley makes $46 million now
Starting point is 00:50:16 I don't know man I was just thinking I've been quite for reason I'm like you would do that I mean I mean
Starting point is 00:50:21 I'm not in the air again I'd rather not it's not nothing is like truly crazy but I'll try not to. Yes, exactly. I'll try not to.
Starting point is 00:50:29 But if push comes to shove, hey, man, you got it. They tell me to take my Jared Allen and fucking eat it. Yeah. Then I might have to say take Mowgli. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm doing it. And I'll take Jared Allen. You could rear out him wherever the fuck for whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Stretch five that you can imagine. I'm cool. I'm more than cool. This is insanely complicated. Maybe they can keep DeAndre Hunter and they could offload Lonzo Ball and Struis. Just throw him away. Give me second round picks. Take the money.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And then we can do Mowbly plus. whatever but Mowgli's like Damner one for one for the team that's not impossible it's unlikely for various reasons but that could be in the cards do you guys think the more
Starting point is 00:51:07 the Minnesota Timberwolves could enter the conversation because they've been you know they're in enter yes the loop for a move I don't know if a move like to this stature
Starting point is 00:51:17 is what was expected but I do it in a heartbeat if I were then what would you do anything because because Because you, one, this is their M.O. now.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Their M.O. is we have, we'll figure everything out. So you can trade Gobert and you can get, you can get off of Gobert and whatever decline that he still has left in his career, you can get off of that. You can potentially sell high on Julius Randall right now and get off of that. And now you're pairing Anthony Edwards with one of the better players in the league. Obviously, you still have no point guards. It's okay. We will figure it out. do they have the bucks
Starting point is 00:51:57 who could possibly want barring a demanding of going to Minnesota which I can't imagine Janice is demanding Julius Randall is the pivot I would fucking
Starting point is 00:52:06 grab the nearest weapon if I was a bucks fan and my pivot was Julius Randall and then Nazareth I would make magic happen point them both of myself and no longer watch basketball
Starting point is 00:52:19 if I'm a bucks fan is Randall and Nasre one last lever Rob Dillingham I'm pointing it's his team now it's his team now yeah before the weapons appointed me he'll be pointed at you for suggesting a thing
Starting point is 00:52:34 and then myself in a box man the pivot is Julius Randall Nas read Rob Dilling yeah I obviously wouldn't there's a lot of teams where it makes sense for one just doesn't make sense for the bucks that's where the Tim Wolves are so we are so we're trying to get who Boston Celtics
Starting point is 00:52:51 God I put zero thought of that I don't know anything but Boston Celtics God I don't know anything but Boston Celtics God I don't know oh warriors do you want to see them trade jimmy butler and then like they've never traded picks so they can give them they can give the most picks of anybody pretty much sure sure they can give three picks and three swaps you know what save my life can go let's do it i almost said yonis and draymond would be a weird fit but they'll just work it out that'd be great that's the only part that i'm gonna feel happy about that that fit would be good and obviously stuff and stuff that roster
Starting point is 00:53:18 is so bullshit right now that i'm like i don't even want to put yonis through that yeah exactly like the pod guess what it's not about him anymore you're in the bay it's about 30 you work for him that'll be amazing you're part of somebody else's story buddy yeah that'll be amazing all right final prediction where do you think he's gonna go what if they have this dialogue like he said and he says no i'm good i'll stay you mother i just came home from the gym swing like balls and you have me talking about fantasy come on man if his if his preferred destination is the nix yeah i actually no i i think the hawks i think it just i think i think i think i think i think that pick moves me so much and the in the fact that not only do you have the ability to get new
Starting point is 00:54:04 orleans pick you still you now set my control your own destiny again because it's a pick swap with your with your pick yeah for a single year and that's something they don't have for the next few years yeah for the rest of this decade actually so like if you are able to get that pick cool i think it just entirely dependent when it comes to my predictions entirely dependent on what yonis how much control he has and whether or not the bucks are gonna bend to him like they usually have been doing.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Okay. Now we're talking about all these teams we want to see him go to and we're talking about both sides. All right, fuck all. I want to talk about
Starting point is 00:54:36 let's beat her in this. Let's talk about all the players we talked about. Yes. I'm gonna name one of these teams that is a potential trip for Janus. You tell me if they do make the trade, would they be championship favorites to you?
Starting point is 00:54:46 Can they beat the Thunder with Janus? Can they be okay? That's what it's really all about is like, are we even gonna win? Yeah. So will they win the championship if they get Janus. First off, New York Knicks.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Yes, they will. And they will sweep the Oklahoma City. Somebody with the fucking brain. Put a muzzle on it. Yeah, get it going. What do you think? Are they immediately the best team in the league with Janus? Best team in the league with Janus is tough.
Starting point is 00:55:10 No, because you have no depth at the end of the day. You have who coming off of the bench at the end of the day after that trade? Jordan Clark's either we're trading OG and McHale. We have no wings or we're trading Kat and Janus is playing center. That's a lot to figure out. I don't want to put him in Mitchell Robinson out of there together. I don't think they'd be immediately better
Starting point is 00:55:25 than the Thunder. If they do, they have to have a historic offense in just a top seven defense as is and I don't know how that can happen. Now, I would say they would be able to be Thunder. It wouldn't be impossible, but I wouldn't pick them.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Next up. Atlanta Hawks. No, they're not winning a championship. We win it. We're doing it. Hell, yeah. With Jalen Johnson's there, do it all type guy.
Starting point is 00:55:47 You won't win the NBA Cup. You don't met. He just ruined me. That's tough, buddy. Yeah, I thought the Hawks would be very good. I wouldn't expect to be the best team in the NBA with Yannis. Yeah, but we'll be closer to one of the best teams. We'll be the best team of the East by far, though, for sure.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Okay. They could be a true contender, if they're honest. Okay. But be okay, C? Ah, not yet. Spurs. Victor Woman Yama and Yannis. Honestly, I don't know who else is there.
Starting point is 00:56:14 That alone gets them pretty goddamn close. They'd push the Thunder to seven. And then we'll see. Yes, any man's game. Who wants them more? They can end it's keeping Dehr and Fox They got to figure out in between It would be a weird lineup starting two point guards I guess
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah It would be weird If you have Yonis and Vic I'm not picking anybody to beat you more than seven Yeah I don't know how I don't care How much Hart Cason Wallace has Oaks Rousseau has I don't care how versus your defense is
Starting point is 00:56:39 J. Dubb it don't matter You gotta deal with when being yonis I got the Spurs in this one I do You get excited Yeah I do Lakers Trading Austin Reeves
Starting point is 00:56:49 Yes they they would What what beat okay z yes yes i think i think they would we've we've brought jan is aiden we have we have already i forgot dominating say you better remember you call them by dominating now his name is dandre we've already established luka is thunderproof he will fry them any day of the week he does not care about any of this pulling up the shorts slapping the floor defense that they play he's giving them 30 can yon is going to give them 30 yes i think that the lakers with yannis would be able to push the thunder and could beat them
Starting point is 00:57:22 I could see a world where they give them a run for their money, but I don't know if the depth will be there again because when it comes to thinking about being the Thunder, you're not only beating Shea or J-dub or Chet, you're also being the three other guys that have on the bench, too. It's just too many pieces, right? Also, if the Lakers lose to the Thunder with Luca and Janus, LeBron's legacy, it's taking it.
Starting point is 00:57:47 No, if that happens, Shea, you are the goat. You're in goat debates. I'm starting propaganda. I'm not stopping before that I get the top 10 conversations and congratulations you gain the new number one Shay hater for the next
Starting point is 00:57:57 20 years of that happens as well I will crowned Shea immediately if you beat these two guys together I hate I'll hate everything about Canada bro what With that being said that's the end of this emergency episode Had to get up here and talk about Janus
Starting point is 00:58:10 Hopefully straight in the coming weeks December 15 everybody becomes available That looks like it's probably going to be the date Hopefully the deal is done before Christmas Maybe not Maybe he's continued to just make us wait and hope and edge us
Starting point is 00:58:23 I hope he just gets it done this yeah by by December 15th or whatever it is and I hope it's to Atlanta I'll be up here gloating chopping my lips
Starting point is 00:58:33 bro oh my god I'll be insufferable you thought he was insurmable you haven't met me the problem is you get honest and you still lose games you still be the same seed yeah
Starting point is 00:58:42 it would still suck you are under us meeting us if you guys are still here it's a new era it's a new era it's a new era It's a new era You'll be over there
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's the pitiful He'll be over there If you're still here, let us know Where you want to see Yonnas go And we'll see y'all In two days For the next episode

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