The Deep 3 Podcast - We Played NBA Start, Bench, Cut With Our Chat | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are going to play NBA, start, bench, cut. We're going to see a series of three players. We get to decide who to start, who to bench, and who to cut. But we will not be deciding. Chat, you guys will be deciding. We will be doing a series of polls where I'll send it in the chat and I'll pin it so you guys can keep going to it. We are going to do a poll where you guys can rank the options one through three and we will see what you guys think. Yeah, buddy.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I don't trust chat, man. I don't trust these crown eaters. This is not their strong suit necessarily, man. So we're starting off with KG, Kyrie Irving, and Dwight Howard as the first one. And on this poll, I'm going to say, we're not doing it through YouTube. I'm going to send a link in the chat that you guys are going to go to and keep refreshing. On this link, you'll be able to order it one through three to decide to order. So we're just doing all the start bench cut in one go.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Okay. So starting it now, I'm going to send the link in the chat. You guys go here. I'll pin it for you guys. Tell us what you think. What do you think they're going to do for this first one? This is obvious. I saw that line up right there.
Starting point is 00:00:57 thought of an answer within like two seconds, bro. There is a polar bear in Arlington right now and he's screaming, roaring, bro, to be cut. So, well, we can vote too. We'll do one of many, but we can give ourselves a vote. Who are we doing first? Just like that. Don't do anything. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. You're cutting
Starting point is 00:01:15 Dwight? I don't think, I think he had a crowned to get a moment. Cut is number three. Never mind. It's worse. We are going to outvote you. We are benching Dwight. We are benched Dwight. very easily and we're cutting this shit out of Kyrie. Sorry, Kyrie. Sorry, man.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Now, let's view the results. So far, through 49 seconds, KG is winning number one to be started with a resounding blowout. Okay. 94 votes so far. They are, listen, Kyrie versus Dwight's kind of close.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Why is it close? We're cutting the most skilled player of all time? A lot of these guys were born in 2012, 2013. What are we doing right now? Listen, man, 56 points right now for Dwight,
Starting point is 00:01:57 45 for Kyrie, refresh 759. You guys are still staying around the same ratio. Could you, either you, like, build up a real case and argument for Kyrie. Fuck no. No, I can't. No. I mean, if I had to put my mind in the body of
Starting point is 00:02:12 I would say being a guard is more important than modern NBA than a big. You can't run offense through a big. You can't run offense through a guard. That's legit. It's more important than a bucket. Offense is more important than defense. You got to be talking to an idiot. You can't play off the floor offensively.
Starting point is 00:02:29 You got the right idiot. Who you want to take the last shot? Nothing more important than taking the last shot. Buckets, buckets, buckets. But that being said, obviously, Dwight. Dwight Howard had Michael Petrus taking the last shot. Give me Kyrie. And it is close.
Starting point is 00:02:43 We're here now. I keep refreshing. We're at 73 points to 68 points. Tyree, let's go. Come on. Y'all, don't do this. I don't know if anybody wants to, you know, like, adhere to the argument I just laid out for a very smart fan.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But, you know, you guys have about 10 seconds left to try to catch Kyrie up. You're only down my five points. This is Loki and goes. What would Kyrie's legacy be without that championship in 2016? Let's have a conversation here. Let's have a real conversation here. What would, really, what would Dwight Howard's legacy be if his back and give out on him in the square middle was prime?
Starting point is 00:03:11 What would Dwight's the legacy be if he didn't have all those DPOIs? Oh, my God. All those DPOIs. Do 75 to 74. They're making it close. Now we're just taking away important parts of the resume. Take away one important part. Let's see who's stay.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Hey, Heidi is standing up, y'all. We have 140 votes. Oh, my God. tied now. Are y'all doing this for the meme at this point? Or y'all just want to see a comeback. Please. I almost stopped it 20 seconds ago, but I got to give them the chance if you can come back. The future of America is bleak.
Starting point is 00:03:36 We're at 142 votes right now. We're going to let it get to 150. So only eight people can vote now and then we'll stop it. Yo, basketball discourse in 10 years. I was going to be in hell. 79. 6 votes left. Kyrie's winning by two now. Kyrie. Yo, please. I need more voters.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Kyrie's a real hooper. Sure. He is. Four votes left. Kire's ahead by four. The Kyrie fans are covered out the woodworks. Oh, 149. 157.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It's over. Kyrie wins by five. I rigged it. I rigged it. Kevin Garnett starts. Kyrie's bitch. What a comeback. They got to be trolling, man.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And you know, hey, listen. That's actually crazy. I really was just playing, but I got on board. This is lit. The children won, as somebody in the chat said. 49% of people agree with you, though. This is the most common vote on hoopgo.com. 49%.
Starting point is 00:04:23 34% of people did what we wanted to do and put Dwight Howard second. We got to start implementing a system where we ID people before they're able to vote. Got to share IDs, email us your IDs first, and then you're allowed. No, you want a big brother people like 1984? We've got to eliminate them before they can talk. Yes. All right, next up, let's go to the next one. We got a Marty Stademeyer, Sean Kemp, and Chris Bosch.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Wow. I'm going to refresh the poll right now. You guys are going to use the same link. I got to go through and refresh you with the new names. These guys are probably going to be perplexed. After Chris Bosch, they're not going to know what to do. Look at it. Amari, who?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Camp, these crannies, and never seen Sean Kemp play. So we got Bosch, Kemp, and Amari. What are you guys' thoughts? What are we going to do for our vote? I would go Bosch. It's starting. You can convince me
Starting point is 00:05:10 Amari. Okay, poll is reset now, guys. You guys can go back here now. Bosch Amari Kemp? Amari's underrated. Yeah, I think I would. But also flawed. But none of these guys are great defenders.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Yeah. I think I'd rather have Amari than Kemp. camp is hard for me to gauge in NBA history just because it's such a unique play style as his big slasher in a unique time where I don't know if that'd be better or worse today because today he'd be a high pick and role partner probably playing more center
Starting point is 00:05:37 there'd be insane space for him to roll he'd probably be the most unstoppable role threat in the NBA by far we saw a couple of years of Omar you saw Tamara being that already so it's more legitimate and Bosch
Starting point is 00:05:51 maybe the best defender here but it's not like Bosch was a great defender by any means. He has spacing. These other guys don't for the modern NBA. Yeah, I'm a give Bosch one
Starting point is 00:06:00 because I do... No, I'm not putting Bosch one. I'm a good boss one. You think... I'm only in Kemp one. What? I mean, Kemp was an integral part of finals run
Starting point is 00:06:07 just like Bosch was. Bosch is a third option, which obviously played a big role. Kemp was the go-to score on the Supersonics that were making the finals. Like Payton was obviously... I don't know if producer again. I don't remember in those runs
Starting point is 00:06:17 who was actually a leading score, but Payton was obviously, you know, defender, facilitator. It could score, but I think Kemp was there, like, score, if I remember correctly. I think Kemp is number one.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I think I would still lean Bosch though. I think I think Bosch Bosch and his versatility and the fact that like we did and obviously I'm biased because I grew up watching Bosch and like seeing the evolution in his game.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I think you would love Sean Ken if you watch him growing up. Probably. You would adore Sean Ken talking on people. But like he has some of like the greatest sense of all time but I think seeing Bosch go from like I can score and give you 20 and 10 every single night and be this mid-post face-up guy and get my buckets any way that I need to
Starting point is 00:07:01 to I am this third option I can allow the I can't allow the defense to be switchable I can extend my range I can knock down threes do all that stuff like So we start in Bosch benching Amari cutting Kemp? Is that what you guys want to do? Amari isn't really I mean if Kemp was on if Amari was in Kemp spot in the Sonic team
Starting point is 00:07:18 they'd probably submit the finals It's not like Kemp was carrying like that So I could buy the argument that you want to say Marry's one more skilled Yeah, I don't know Do you think Kemp would be able to Or Amari were able to lead that same team To the finals
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yeah, but Gary Payton Yeah, I think you do the same things Kemp Amari's like almost equal Our Amari might be an even better Finisher than Camp Amari's amazing It's tough Okay, it doesn't really matter what we think We'll just do this just to see the results now
Starting point is 00:07:42 See what chat's been doing While we've been yapping, given our opinions Results Chat, you guys said Bosch Biden and a meal by a massive margin And you guys put Amari to Slightly over camp That makes sense
Starting point is 00:07:52 Amari versus Kemp is a very close debate. Okay. Yeah, okay. Amari's slightly better than camp. Fair,
Starting point is 00:07:59 but they're clearly close. But you guys Bosch by a resounding margin. Okay. That is probably because nobody
Starting point is 00:08:05 grew up watching these other two. I don't think it's crazy to do Bosch, but I think it's closer than this. 200? That's a lot of points
Starting point is 00:08:13 for Bosch? Yeah. I wish I could see that. Yeah. Chatsa, how do I join? Look at the pin in the chat on
Starting point is 00:08:20 YouTube. The live stream link is right there, a straw poll. We'll go ahead and put that here now so okay boss starting amari benched kemp cuts damn 48% people agreed 31% put kemp seconds but everybody pretty much put boss number one i feel like a turn we're gonna see is the oldest dude is always
Starting point is 00:08:36 gonna get cut pretty much pretty much next up john stockton Chris Paul Steve Nash oh this is good okay so three of the greatest guards of all time very easy for me yeah very we know it's very easy for you so reset in the poll now we got nash is that easy for you oh i just know your feelings about one of these guys. And I know it's not even a thought for you. I think outside of who we're putting three, I think one and two is going to be hard. Yeah, one and two is a debate.
Starting point is 00:09:05 You got a, what, two time back to back MVP and Steve Nash. Someone who obviously like a heavy influence in how the leagues played today. For CP3, two-way guy, all around point guard. Been doing it for a long time, but never really got it done to the highest degree. Never did Steve Nax, but he doesn't have any major accolades along his name. I think we keep it the same order.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I think we go Nash 1, CPU 3, 2, Stockton 3. But I know, obviously, every time we talk about John Stockton, there's people that are calling, telling us, y'all sleep on Stockton. He's the most underrated player of all time. And some people think John Stockton
Starting point is 00:09:41 is the most overrated player of all time. There's really no middle ground and opinions on John Stockton. So I think we're either going to see him number one or number three. There's no chance he's number two. Yeah, that's not happening. Let's see what everybody says.
Starting point is 00:09:52 doing the queue now let's see the results results are CP3 over Nash by a good amount okay I think people sleep on Nash and I think it's because you sound I think people sleep on Nash and it's mostly because the only reason
Starting point is 00:10:07 young fans think about him is he stole MVPs from Kobe and shit like that and people just like accepted his truth even though there is nuance to that and I think those are deserving MVPs and young people see the point guards today that average 30 they see Troy Young averaging 27 And they're like, Steve Nash on the average 18 points per game.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I want the fucking MVP. This guy's a bum. It's what 2010 is for fucking fake. And they'll think all this. Steve Nash is one of the most gifted engines of all time. Steve Nash is incredible. One of the best playmakers. Everything we love Halberton for in terms of his style of playmaking leading to good offense
Starting point is 00:10:38 better than like a Trey Young style where maybe he's a little more ball pounding. Steve Nash is the OG of that. One of the most efficient scores at all three levels. Everything he did was conducive to winning. Someone in the chat says CP3 defense moves me. True. I think for that exact reason right there, for me personally, I'd rather have him over Steve Nash. But Steve Nash is not a bad choice at all, obviously.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah, the defense is, that's a fair argument. Yeah. But then people are going to say, John Stockton's all the time leader in steals. Why don't you care about his defense? Steals, nice. That's what we're going to. Well, he wasn't a defender too. He wasn't a bad defender.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yeah. Now asking you about the scoring and we will have a different conversation. That does not move me at all. But this is pretty cut and dry. Chad's going CB3. Wow, John Stock, the fact that these two top of you both have 180 points. Nobody voted to stop. I don't think we're going to see.
Starting point is 00:11:20 lower point average than 41. That's crazy. So it's a CP3 is better than stock than at everything. Trying to tell you guys. We're done with the 90s. Apparently in the 2000s, 42% of people agree that this is the right order. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:35 This one's obviously understandable. Ooh, current day players. Jalen Brown, Tyrese Halliburton, Carl Anthony Towns. Kagan, cut! You don't belong here. Where are we going with that? Jalen Brown, Tyrese, and Katz. all right so
Starting point is 00:11:50 Tyrese is one for me the way Jayla Brown is playing right now two he can score as number one option he proved that and then Cat you don't want to like fight for Cat at all what do you mean? I think listen
Starting point is 00:12:06 Cat is not having the best season so far it's not going great he's had moments but you know we're still getting there it's okay but it's the most efficient score here we're obviously starting Tyrese right yeah and J.B versus Kat is interesting
Starting point is 00:12:23 I think you could argue that Kat's more talented or better in a ranking or whatever but I think it would be pretty hard to if you're building a team and like knowing what we need for your position it would be kind of hard to take Kat over J.B with the defensive deficiencies yeah I think Kat was more talented as a day one score in the league
Starting point is 00:12:39 but as time's gone on and as JV's like refined his game all around and added a few more layers so it was in between game obviously his reputation as the defender has been up and down, but it's been way more up compared to cat. Yeah, I'm starting JV or benching JV. Yeah, I think so too. I think I'm cutting cat.
Starting point is 00:12:56 But I think that might be a close result. Let's see. Shouldn't be. Nope, it's not close at all. Damn, 26 points. You know why? Because this is our chat. They know.
Starting point is 00:13:06 We groom them well. This is not a pro cat fan base. Our TD3 viewers do not love Carlton Towns. You know, I don't think they love Jaylon Brown either. But I think we've made it clear to them. Maybe they've learned through your biases. from before Cat was on your team, how much you hated him? Listen, man.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Listen, somebody said that cat has a better hairline, which is true. Which is true. Shout out to that. He does have that. That's shit. Yeah, Donovan said, that's sick. Yeah, there's no argument at all, man. Chad said, Donovan groomed them over that rant.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Over that rant. I didn't know such thing. You know what on the side, man? But he said over that rant. And he's talking about the rant when you said, if Chronthetown is straighted to your team, you're going to burn down masses for a garden or something. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I said I'd take a year off. That's 115 votes. I lie. Cat only has 26 points. This is quite the blowout. As expected. So Tyrese Halliburton, welcome to our starting lineup. Jay and the Brown, welcome to our bench.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Kat, welcome to being cut. Damn. 47% people agree. Okay, tat. Next up, Kevin Durant, Dway, Nikola Yokic. This is interesting. We just did that video where I had you guys name as many players you can
Starting point is 00:14:16 that were better than Yokic. Oh, yeah. And in that video, Mo had to go and he had to try to get to 15, which is obviously very difficult. Yep. And you said, uh, Dwayne Wade and you also like Kevin Durant. And when you said Kevin Durant, I said, I don't know, I think I'm probably going to lean Yokish from it's all said and done. I didn't argue with you about Dwayne Wade because I just wanted you to get to 15.
Starting point is 00:14:32 So I was like, I'm not going to argue about every single one. And the comments, let me hear it. Oh, I asked me put Yokish twice. Yeah. Oh, they were like, how dare you allow him to put weight above Yokich? Yeah. That is a little bit crazy. For a singular year, wasn't that crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:45 For your absolute peak, wasn't too crazy. All right, chat. It is now refreshed. I actually put you two Yokhs at first, but I fix it. So go ahead and here again. So, Katie Wade Yokich. So obviously, I think we should probably have Yokch one. Him versus Katie is going to be a tough debate.
Starting point is 00:15:03 20 years from now, maybe Yokish plays himself into like clear top 10 conversations all time, which is clearly possible if he stacks up more jewelry. If he doesn't and say he retires at one ring and like all the MVP's in the fucking world, I feel like Katie Verzokic is going to be like an all-time debate for like 10 and 11 or whatever. It might be especially because I really do want to know how Katie is perceived like 10 years from now. Yeah. When we get away from everything like because obviously we have the whole the conversation of like we went to Golden State and he did that and like there's all of that stuff that like people kind of ours care about. But like once you get past that, is history going to remember that?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Like, are they still going, are they still going to kind of hold that against him? Yeah. Because if they, if they do, then Yokic is going to win that. But if they don't, then I think you look at KD and he's going to get, he's the greatest score, like, greatest peer score of all time, two time, two, you know, two times, two time, two time, two time champ. Everyone's always said that. And, like, people said in the beginning, then the narrative switched to soft, you're not the bus driver, you're a punk, whatever. I think the reality is probably closer to he's, like, one of the best ever. Like, I think we might underrate that these days, just how perfect of a basketball player he is.
Starting point is 00:16:11 You know, in terms of like the, he could shoot, dribble, finish, pass, by defense, all these checkboxes. Yeah. I think we probably underrate that right now. I think we've taken that for granted a little bit. And I can see 20 years from now, people don't have the stink of the warrior saying nobody cares anymore. They might watch those 2014 highlights and be like, this is God. Yeah, exactly. I think we're going to be far away from the narratives and look at him as an individual.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And the body of work in terms of what he was able actually to, what he was able to do on the court in terms of how good of a connector pieces that he was back in 2017. 18, how his defense was all NBA worthy for a certain moment in time, fake conversations, but he was in defensive player of the year conversations. So are we cutting weight? Even though 06 happened in 06 Wade is one of the best players of all time, winning a championship that young? For the sake of longevity. Now we're kidding.
Starting point is 00:16:56 No, you're insane. It's funny to cut KD. Yeah. Just because our result doesn't matter that much. It's funny. Yeah, I guess so. So let's see what Chad said. This is what we're really here for.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I don't know why we're giving y'all as our opinions. Wow. Chat completely slaughtered, Dwayne Wade. Nice. Exactly how it should be. Yokeh is running away with. the 125 votes, almost 200 points. I did, I saw some,
Starting point is 00:17:15 because after your team, fake, recreated the D-Wade to LeBron. Fake? Yeah, he didn't like, we did it in Philly too. No other team was able to like, he didn't do that on purpose.
Starting point is 00:17:29 But I saw a Dway, like, highlight tape today, this morning. I was like, man, that's special. That's different. 56% of people agree with this. This is the biggest margin we've seen. I don't think we've seen anything higher than 56.
Starting point is 00:17:40 No, KG. Oh, what was that? I forgot. I don't know, but KG blew them out the water. Okay, you're probably right, yeah, yeah. But yeah, 56% are cutting Dwayne Wade. Again, oldest player here is getting cut every time. We know what's up. The train has followed.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You know, I was lying. But, oh, my God, you're making me look bad. Katie and Wade is a debate, though. So there's a little tough, peak for peak, but no surprise. The old guy gets cut. Victor Women, Yama, Joellen beating Grant Hill. I wonder who's going to get cut. Let's chat.
Starting point is 00:18:09 everybody at their peak. So imagine the best version of everybody. Don't hold 2025 Jewel and B for what he was. Street MVP Joellen B for what he was versus Wemby and Grant Hill if you know anything about him but I know y'all don't.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So I'm going to reset the poll real quick. Your chat is hilarious, man. The trend continues. Guys, put Grant Hill one. Show Grant Hill. No, don't ring it. Let them think for themselves. Show Grant Hill some respect.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I dare you. I dare you to show Grand Hill respect. I triple dog dare you to show him so chat it, chat. the poll is refreshed Joel, Wemby versus Hill I mean we're going to Joel number one right Yes, Wimby's gonna get there but
Starting point is 00:18:46 Joel's one, Wembe's two, Grand Hill Actually is Wembe 2 over Prime Grant Hill Do we just get Wembe better for the doubt? Like he's gonna be better than Grant Hill Right now, right now you can say Listen, both of them in their primes Both of them were having injury issues, health issues I'm taking Wembe
Starting point is 00:19:01 Prime Grant Hill was That's a little prom before a prime Yeah, I mean Grant Hill's obviously very underrated But like Winby is like We know what Wembe is like, we know what whomeby's about to be. We're already starting to see it. We haven't seen it for playoff runs yet. So, Grant Hill probably deserves the nod, I guess, in terms of like what he's proven because it won't be so young. And you know, we'll say at their peak. Technically, we don't
Starting point is 00:19:22 know what the peak of Wembe is. So I guess Wembe has to be third time. We haven't seen the peak yet. Yeah. At peak, Grant Hill, he was third in MVP back in 97. Average 21, 9 and 7. All around, fantastic, point forward. We'll give it to Grant Hill because nobody else in chat is going to. I haven't seen the results. I guarantee to you, Grant Hill. has less than 40 points. Put Grand Hill one. I guarantee you
Starting point is 00:19:41 has less than 40 points. Let's see the results. This might be discussing. Real discussing out here. Oh, no, Grant Hill is 82 points. Oh, wow. Listen,
Starting point is 00:19:49 because Donovan rigged the votes, he told him to give him some respect. Yeah. But look how close Joelle and Beading and Wembe is. I guarantee. If you didn't say that, he might have gotten 12 votes. Y'all hate Joelle and Beed so much.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I'll stop. I'll stop. Yeah. Y'all hate Joelle and Beed so much. It's ridiculous. Damn. It's this close to Joel and Bead and Wemby. How quickly we forget.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Come on now, man. How quickly we're free. I don't even want to see Joelle and B just played 40 games. We're not even going to do that when it's versus Wemby, who clearly hasn't played a full season yet. He also gave Wemby 70.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Well, granted, when he was young, but, and this is the one conversation I'm not trying to hear no fucking he doesn't play games. That's such a nightmare. 70s ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:20:24 That's such a nightmare thing to experience is the number one overall pick trying to figure shit out and you got this fucking 300 pound African dude just hit you with all types of spins, hezies and all that, bro. Why does the Africanness matter?
Starting point is 00:20:36 70s? Crazy. If you were non-African, would it make it less scary? I'm worried if he's phone calling him by whatever he's phone with it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. So if he's in Detroit, would you know, you got this Detroit guy. I give you 70. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:50 You guys are real close. There's no weight, Wemby push. It's still, Joel and Bitt as I'm refreshing. Donovan will spit his water. Yeah, Jewel and Bede. Do you think he'll take the title from most underrated player of all time? Do you think history is remember him following me? It depends.
Starting point is 00:21:05 No. Okay, not note to the same question, but I think that, I think James Hardin is probably going to get that knot. 54% of people put Wendy over Joel and Pete. Yo. And fuck off. Yo, Wimble, you're all born. Yo.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Donovan's over a text, texting in the chat, too, right? No. This is the election fraud. I love this. I love this. Hoopgoat.com. We're learning a lot about you and your clientele today. We're learning a lot about the average age of your.
Starting point is 00:21:36 fandom right now. I love this. This is crazy. That's right. And B did nothing for you. We're going to do one more chat. One more. See you guys get it right. Oh, we got all the whites to close it out. Alfred and Singoon, Chris House Borgenghis, and Chet Holmgren. This is fine. We have a pasty battle to finish out this video.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I'm going to go right now. That's how I'm going to look at it from this perspective. So I would go Sang, then I would go Chet. And now we'll go Porzingis. Yeah. Prozingus just be out way too often, bro. No, Porzingis isn't the defender Chet is and damn sure isn't the offensive player that Sangoon is.
Starting point is 00:22:17 So there's no debate for who's getting cut. We're leaving. We're leaving KP3. The first two years of KP, though, special. Even if it was year two's KP, he'd still be getting cut, I think. He has never stood a chance. Actually, I don't know. Maybe Prime KP.
Starting point is 00:22:29 We have, at that point he was young, had a lot better than to keep getting better. So maybe he would be in the conversation. So I think, I've been, I've been, anticipating this a lot when we get to our Christmas episode we rank the top 30 players shangoon versus chet shingun has elevated to being a legit offensive hub now that he has kd there now he's enough shooting to let the offense go he is a legit primary creator and chet is obviously one the best defensive players in the world while being a secondary like role player offensively that's going to be a debate forever who you'd rather have again that just comes down
Starting point is 00:22:56 to like personal preference yeah and i think for the longest i've given the singoon the slight edge but i don't know man there's no real wrong answer he has he's been a chat hater for a little while now That's why he said that. It's how the face he made. He's not a Guna, but he's a chat hater. Not a chat hater at all. Yeah, but he's not a real Gooner. Someone, I mean, they're saying that Sengoon is a Guter.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah, yeah, the Gooner, yeah. Have y'all witnessed it? What gives you the right to say he's a Gooner? Oh, just reading phonetics. Guys are just on Gondu watch. I think before, obviously, you guys know my stance on this. I've been very pro-chat in this debate. The Gooner has elevated enough, and it's clearly, you can pick Schengu now.
Starting point is 00:23:30 It's not crazy to me whatsoever. he's still not quite as good of a score enough for me to like say it has to be shangoon you can still pick the primary defender and role player in chat and there's still a very good argument but i definitely see the offensive value of why you might prefer shangoon for building a team but i'm picking it's close so close right right now i'm picking the gooner yeah okay you're deciding vote at this season at this point yeah i'll pick the gunner okay at for this season shangoon has had so many hot games shooting 40% from three still i think that we can give him that for now yeah he deserves it he just
Starting point is 00:24:01 deserves it. But that's going to be a debate forever, I think. They should have put Evan Moldings in here instead KP, KP. Yeah, but we know the whites. And this,
Starting point is 00:24:09 yep, the results are exactly what you think. Shengoon won. Doesn't, the goon squad came through. They did. Chet, clearly, KP has 26 votes. Jeez, man.
Starting point is 00:24:19 The Turkish gooners. Now, Chet's going to win DPOI, assuming Wembe doesn't come back and playing up games that will do a lot for his reputation. I wonder how this is going to be in the summer if, especially to go back-to-back,
Starting point is 00:24:29 DP-OI and a back-to-back team versus shangoon who might be all NBA because they're going to be like the second seat or third seed What the Rockets went out in the first round Nah man Well that would suck for shangoon's For Sengu's reputation
Starting point is 00:24:40 For everyone man But okay you guys went Shangoon number one Shet number two KP a distant number third And 65% of people agree That makes sense That's gonna be the thing right now With how hot shangoon is right now
Starting point is 00:24:51 That is such a disparity 65% It's a little bit too much But y'all got it chat people also hate Chet because one he played in the finals with the broken hip and was looking missing all those dunks looking bitch made
Starting point is 00:25:05 so people have that in their brains and like they also hate OKC because they hate Che so they hate him by proxy they hate the glazers is like you too admit it get to that point faster yeah they hate everything about OKC so Chet has a lot working against him if Chet was on the Wizards getting buckets
Starting point is 00:25:18 just like being the primary center vibes about him would be so different 100% like he's playing power forward which obviously is not his best scoring position like sacrificing production for the team if Chet was out there trying to farm numbers on a different team, it'll be a way different conversation. They just call them skinny.
Starting point is 00:25:33 They still call him a bitch. He's still white and people wouldn't like him. Cumbra.

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