The Deep 3 Podcast - We Power Ranked Every NBA Playoff Team | Ep. 84

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

Who are the best teams in the NBA playoffs? Today we rank them! Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Join the TD3 discord!: https://discord.gg/RUkjpMPp7E Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- Intro 4:38- Comment of the day 13:19- Mo-ment of the week 16:17- 16-20 rankings 33:06- 11-15 50:43- 6-10 1:03:53- Producer corner: chicken tier list 1:14:53- Top 5 teams 1:28:14- Tiktok time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Literally over the last week, I've seen Batman versus Superman. Then I saw fucking Justice League shit. Yeah, I'm just going back in time and catching up to all this stuff. Dude, why are you watching the DC movies after the universe got canceled? You're just watching all these shit movies for no reason. Bro, it's up late at night. It's like 2, 3 a.m. I ain't got shit to do.

Bro, go to sleep. I can't sleep. Bro, it's been Ramadan for like 30 days. And Moses is just trying to make it harder for himself. Like he's watching the worst movies known to man. Well, I person was having a great time. He's running towards the spiritual grind. If you love those, you're going to be fucking mind-blown by Marvel.

Marvel? It's a million. Batman is like the worst fucking movie ever. That shit is horrible. It was interesting. You're going to watch Age of Ultron Avengers and be like, oh my God, it's cinema. He's going to watch Thor for him and be like, this is so much better than DC. Oh, my God.

Why didn't I start here? No, dead ass. Honestly, I think I'm going to do Marvel next year for sure. You see next year. But start now. Stop wasting your night I'm not fucking sorry now Stop wasting your night

This is only a Ramadan type of event What When I got shit When I don't got shit else to do It's 2, 3 a.m. Tired to watch YouTube videos or whatever And I need something to

You act like you're not gonna be up at 2, 3 a.m for the next like six months Not consistently, that's the issue You also could just during the daytime That's so If watching full movies during the day It's major loser material Watching movies is loser material?

No, during the day? During the day, who does that? He said, yeah, as a man, you should never watch movies during the day. Like, you should be out at a job making money. During the day, it's crazy as fuck. Why are you a man at leisure to where you can watch multiple films in a day? That's crazy. The movie during the day is weird.

That's an absurd thing to say. What are you doing from sundown to? like midnight watching basketball like a real man what the fuck this is absurd what about the off season what about the off season he does push-ups that's what he does six hours of push-ups a night dips oh my dips he does dips all night do dips yeah he's just curling gallons of milk This hell of diamond pushups Oh my God, bro Diamond pushups is madness

That is crazy as fuck You know, I'm keeping this as the intro Welcome to the news that is so Mo doesn't watch movies Not during the day Oh, not during the day Oh man It's such a loser take

Today we are doing our final power rankings of the season and this is going to be special power rankings because we are doing it playoff specific it's going to be the top 20 teams

through the playing in each in each time Nikiel's dying and is fucking me up let's get serious we're doing the final power rankings of the season it is playoff specific

this time we're going to be projecting to who we think are the best teams in the NBA going into the playoffs you know who will fair best in the playoff settings, not necessarily who's had the best seasons. So it's going to be an interesting one. And that's something we've done in the past. In the past, we've kind of focused on

what they proved to us. Now it's all theoretical. This is an open. This is an open. Going from this to like basketball talk, this is a transition. I'm not to like lock in for a second. I'm going to have to be quiet for like 30 seconds. But if you guys didn't watch the last live stream we did a couple days ago. We did our TD3 award show where we picked all NBA awards, did all NBA teams, all defense, all that stuff. Great stream. I'd really recommend watching that to, you know, get our view of what we think of the MVP race, the defensive player of the year race, all that stuff. Go watch that first. 100%. I 100%. 10% agree. You're also in for a good one. We debate serials sometime in that stream to you as well. Very passionate

debate. I conic TD3 moment. Check our Twitter. Check our Instagram. I posted the clip of it. hilarious. Donovan was very passionate about anti-cinimento's crunch agendas. Somebody has to say the truth, right? Like, I feel like we live in a culture. Everybody just wants to tip-tow. The truth needs to be said. You know what I'm saying? And I'm here for that. Rejoice! Before we start, the final power rankings of the season, we're going to start with the new opening segment to every episode, Comment of the Day. As you guys know, I ask you to comment your favorite question, your favorite hot take, whatever

may be, and every week we're going to respond to one of your comments and really dive deep into it. Today, we have a comment from Samuel Johnson 4585. He says, now that the season is winding down, who do you all think is going to be on the coaching carousel this summer, whose job is the most in jeopardy? So I picked this question, basically, who you think is getting fired? Who is losing the job after this playoff run? Who's tapping in what's Indeed.com?

Who's going to be on LinkedIn, open to work? All right. Who's the first one comes in mind? There's a few. There's a few I'm thinking of. Darwin Ham. Oh, wow. Yeah, he's on there.

What does Durbinham have to do to keep his job? I feel like he's, he's the most hated coach right now. Conference finals. Conference finals again? Yeah. Yeah. What are they made the conference finals and get blasted by the Nuggets again? Is that doing enough to save them?

Yeah, because I mean, I think, I feel like everybody in the league is like, hey, man, it's the Nuggets, right? If you lose to them, then you lose to them. So a loss to them, regardless if it's a sweep or not, is fine. And they got swept last year by the Nuggets. So it's not like it's anything new or embarrassing. It's just what they do. So if they can get to the conference finals, he might be safe. But he's the first name that, yeah, he's going to be on.

somebody's bench if he's not at the top of the Lakers bench next year. Yeah. I think there's very few scenarios where I think he should keep his job. I think the entire reason the Lakers are struggling this season and are currently the nine seed is almost entirely his fault. You know, what we're going

to talk about them obviously when we get to the power rankings. They've been a fantastic team as of late. They're actually not fantastic that's me, not gas it, but they've been a good team and it coincides exactly with him playing Dilo, Austin Reeves and Ruey in the starting lineup and being serious and playing his best players. The only reason they are bad because they didn't do it all year

and he overthought the shit out of it and played ridiculous linos for a big chunk of the season you can direct if they get eliminated to being Darbinham's fault I think he's good yeah wow I would say so as well well who do you think is being fired I think if me personally

if I was to lean any certain way it's not that I think this player this person will get fired I just feel like all signs point towards that J.B. Bickersstaff's name probably going to be a earlier in the season like he was catching the most heat in the most hell do i think it's fair yeah to a certain extent yeah but every single fan in them in the entire NBA has beef with

their head coach unless you're like an okay c fan or i guess like the miami heat or something like that so with all the inconsistencies in that roster and just like all the volatility is going on in and out i think his name was probably cooked because he hasn't done enough in my mind to help you know maintain an identity and part of that a large part of that is the coach's fault. Yeah. The cabs are a fucking tire fire. Again, we'll talk about them come power rankings time.

We'll talk about them a lot. I will be shocked if Davey Bickerstaff is still on this team next year. Thanks. I got two names for you. One, Chauncey Billups. Listen, might have to go back to ESPN. I think it's time for Chauncey Billups to get up out of Portland. And I don't know if it's going to be a firing or if it's going to be like mutual parting of

ways i i would be kind of shocked if billy donovan was the coach of the bulls next year i was to say that too yeah it doesn't seem that he's on the hot seat like you said but like what are they doing like why does he even want i mean i'm sure he wants a job he wants to get money you know so it makes sense but like what is the goal for either side there yeah i think i think like for them they clearly have uh some type of love for this core nobody knows why and this core is going to be together until they're not and so the only change or like the sign that they're going to give is, hey, we're going to move on from Billy Donovan, bringing somebody new and see if he can really unlock this score, especially after Kobe White and has his like breakout season.

Plus, there's, there's been some talk about Billy Donovan going to Kentucky, right? His name has kind of been thrown around in there after Coach Cal left. So I could see a situation where he goes back to the college ranks and then they bring in somebody new. He would be the second Chicago Bulls head coach to like leave from the pros to go back to college. Remember Fred Hoydberg? What a name. I forgot of our Fed Hoyberg. I don't know a single defining characteristic of Fred Hoyberg. I don't remember a thing about his tenure there. I mean, he's white and he looks like he works in corporate America. That's all I could tell you.

Well, that doesn't tell me much. He's an NBA coach. It's a lot of white people. So does Billy Donovan. Billy Donovan would be a fantastic CLO just based off looks. That's a that's a sales manager if I've ever seen one. Someone who I think should get five. also but probably wouldn't because he just signed like a two-year deal or whatever it was his Doc Rivers we can again bull bucks there's gonna be plenty to talk about him later but I'm just like what's the point of bringing him back you know yeah well if you decide he was a good coach to hire then there's no reason to fire him now you might as like give him a full season to have an actual like you know off season to build around his vision they they're stuck with him and they just keep

giving coaches half years to prove to that that they're crazy they're close to be hilarious they pay five coaches at once just because they keep running through them Hell of contracts Yeah So yeah That's all the main names So is that That's five

You know Something like that Listen There's always surprise ones Nobody thought Mike Boodenholz Was getting fired He seemed to be

One of the safest In the league They flamed out In the playoffs He was out of there That could happen To any which coach this year I don't know

If that can actually Happen to a lot of coaches This year Because what team Has like real deal Expecting Oh Jason kid If the Dallas

Mavericks Flame out Immediately getting fired bro. If he's a first, if they're losing the first round, he is cooked. He is unemployment line immediately. Fired as fuck. He, I think he is one of the few coaches in the NBA who's like, all right, bro. Like, if you underperforming the playoffs this year, you're getting that two weeks notice. Frank Vogel, there's a report today that his job may be on a line, which if they lose

their play in, he shouldn't be skateboarded again. But if they lose in a plan, you got to change something and they're stuck with the score. So I wouldn't be shocked. If I was Frank Vogel and I got scapegoated again, I'd be like, y'all. I'm going to college Like I'm just not dealing With these guys ever again Exactly I'm taking a job

Of the rebuilding team With no expectations Because apparently if I don't win A championship I'm just bad at my job Yeah Go coach the Hornets Yeah

That's fucking gross Who knows who's Detroit business coach Monty Williams He's not He signed the richest Contract in coaching history So far right

Yeah He's not going to give They're gonna give him Two years On that deal At least Before they consider Like firing him

yeah yeah all right well that's that's interesting conversation my coaches losing their jobs interesting conversation about unemployment at first at first at first i thought i was like oh like there's probably only like three coaches and then we just listed like eight guys who could lose their job this all season yeah we just call out of people loves firing coaches it's there's always the grass is always greener with these teams people love it yeah last year we went through like a fucking crazy ass frenzy with this shit and people were just firing coaches as if like they were on trees and I guess apparently they do because not a lot of coaches jobs are

on the line or at least it's not a lot compared to like last year or whatever but again the playoffs change a lot we didn't know so many jobs will be available until they were that is true Nick Nurse got fired who thought Nick Nurse did get fired that's great you're right Nick Nurse did get fired that was a disgusting move still to this day

Nick Nurse and Budenholzer if we ranked the top 10 coaches in the league they would both be in there as locks last year and they both got fired okay a lot of it too I don't think that the bud thing was too crazy though. No, I mean, it made more sense, but you know, it was still shocking. Like, we knew that it was, when they did it, it was like, all right, I get it, but I don't think anybody predicted it. It was more shocking. I think it was more shocking that they pulled the

trigger on it rather than the actual idea than like he was fired, you know? Yeah, it made sense of logic. You got to make something up, but like most coaches in his situation would have been safer than that. They fired him. It was, it was shocking that they fired him and they traded drew holiday because normally like you think that you just make one massive change up and that's it they they changed up everything so that's the that's the big move from them that's crazy and they got poor poor poor tough scene for the bucks but we can go ahead and move on crown eaters welcome to one of the newest segments in TD3 started doing this like three weeks ago I believe fourth week in a row welcome to moment of the week

where today we go ahead and look back of what had looked back and see what happened in the NBA over the past seven days since we last recorded and today's moment of the week is Paul George hitting a game winner against the Cleveland Cavaliers specifically stepbacking Evan Mowby out of his Achilles dropping him and hitting a right elbow two pointer with seven seconds left to go on a clock now yes it might be a fake game winner but still in terms of Paul George what he's been known for to do in the clutch for the entirety of his NBA career this is a pretty nice highlight what do you guys think about this what do you mean fake game winner

it wasn't like a buzzer it wasn't like a buzzer beater oh I hate that whenever someone thinks about game winner and shit like that they think about like a real life buzzer beater why we did a tier list of game winners and people were like

this isn't a buzzer beer doesn't count why does it matter if there's half a second level I'd never understood that the excitement factor that's why that's what matters the most I mean they went up I get excited as fuck. It's a go-ahead bucket that eventually turns it into the game winner.

Like, he did it. Yeah. Because it's Paul George. Good for Paul George. You know, these two teams are floundering. Good for Clippers getting a winner of their belt. They obviously need the positive momentum going to the postseason. They have had none of it over the past month.

And especially as a team that we saw as the second biggest threat in the conference at one point. Yeah. Good for them that they can have a good moment. I will say, you know, I saw the slow motion, like video of this clip. and the social media like Brandon for Paul George is so strong because there was no audio

but I heard Erica Badoo in my head whenever I was watching it in slow motion and I was like okay I'm not going to lie I see the appeal I see it like that that was kind of tough yeah Paul George's had a good past couple weeks after being

kind of stinky for his standards for a couple months or so Clippers fans were like you know every team when they struggle they pick somebody to pinpoint the blame on yeah a lot of Clippers fans are pointing to blame at Paul George for some reason

I he needs to carry good momentum going to the postseason the most because kawai's going to be kai james hardens is going to be jans hardin for better or worse paul george needs to be rock setty especially is i don't know because we haven't seen kai like at all plain blank period and if kawai is not even on the court then i think they're just a cook case bro yeah obviously assuming his knee injury isn't serious i think we can safely say he'll play like kai winner in the playoffs and don't forget paul george we have that video of you saying where's paul at though we have that And I promise you, people are waiting to use it. You better show up.

He has to show up. It's on the way. Anyways, I have thoughts about the Cavs. We'll save it. Let's get to the power rankings because we're going to talk about them plenty. So like I said in the intro, we're tier rate. So like I said in the intro, power ranking, all the NBA playoff teams, which essentially means the top 20 teams.

We went through the 10 seed because I think at this point they're all locked up. I don't think any teams that are below have a chance of making it. And like I said, different from our previous power rankings. We're factoring in obviously what they've shown us, but a big factor into it is what we think they'll do in the playoffs. So some teams that have a lot of wins, they've done really well for the whole season. We don't really see them, you know, making a splash in the playoffs. So they might not rank as highly as you'd like and vice versa with teams that are lower in the standings. We can keep that in mind.

All right. Now there's going to be some foolishness on here. When are you all going to trust somebody way too much? I have a habit of positivity when sometimes I need to be more negative with these teams. So we'll see. Listen, and I have a habit, a negativity, sometimes I need to be more positive. We'll see what happens. I'm a mucher, a hater, apparently, we have our titles.

I guess I'm the perfect combination of both. Let's fucking go. I think I'm up first. We got 20 through 16, number 20, surprise, surprise, the Atlanta Hawks. Trey Young recently came back, still the worst team out of the bunch. Who cares? 19, the Houston Rockets. He's so down on his own team.

He trusts him less than a team that's not in the playoffs. You said what? Why are the rockets on here? That's supposed to be here. Oh, the rockets did get eliminated. You're right. Who'd you leave off? I think I, who did I leave off?

He left the Warriors off? No, I didn't leave the Warriors off. That's some team that I'm really high on. I think, I believe I left the Bulls off probably. Okay, so that's supposed to be the Bulls. I just swapped out of the Bulls in your head. Yeah. Hawks, 20, 19, Bulls, 18, Magic, 17 Cavs.

and 16 the New Orleans Pelicans Interesting Well okay First of all You're doing the magic Dirty but I get it

I know why You will let you explain that It sucks to see the pelicans And Cavs so low Because they are so injured And unreliable A month ago They've been much higher

But I understand Yeah I hate to put the The Orlando Magic there too They're very well By the time this podcast comes up They could be like

The second seat In the Eastern Conference Because it's just so down bad Overall But you know like Young team Young team young team first year in this bitch

they'll get their time I don't think their time is just now no yeah I understand the reasonings right we've never been that high on them I think just because the conference is so historically garbage right now I put them a little bit higher just to give them credit but I'd be lying if I said I expect them to win

more than one playoff series they do I won't be that shocked damn shit don't think they win two playoffs series so I can't really justify putting them too much higher yeah I also wish I could put doing more as pelicans higher as well But they just have so many kinks in their entire starting lineup that just don't flow well. Like, I can't, you can't just go ahead and bench your starting center, you know what I'm saying? For random times, draw the entire course of a playoff series in favor of Larry Nance.

You know what I'm saying? And expect that to produce real wins deep into the playoffs. On top of that, like, I'm more so just like Ingram's not there. And I don't even have a huge issue with their lineup. I think they've proven that they can win despite their performance. flaws. But if Ingram's not there, as we see, they're significantly worse. They are basically a sub 500 team. I haven't written down. Let me see. The record without Ingram is 9 and 7. So they're just barely 500 without him. That's not going to make a splash. If it was

fully healthy, they'd be really high because they were clicking at the perfect time. But, you know, with so much of a question mark, even if he comes back, what he'll look like, hard to rank them super high right now. Yeah. Ingram adds like a touch of predictive unpredictability to their offense and also he's you know very viable uh facilitator as well on that team to for sure rebounder and also the shit so it's the low key the best passer in the lineup you can have that i wouldn't argue that at all which is not a high bar to clear being a better path yeah exactly but he's been good and his defense has been very very improved this year he's been legitimately go defensively which i don't think has ever really been the case throughout his career i agree

okay donovan what's your what's your first five yeah let's see that all right so i have the at 20 at the Bulls at 19 Kings at 18 Pacers at 17 and the Golden State Warriors at 16 Interesting, okay so so has the Golden State Warriors top 15 clearly interesting Yeah, so my bottom four so from 17 through 20 these are the teams where at least 18 19 and 20 I don't expect these teams to make it out of the playing the Pacers they could potentially fall into the seven I don't know if they are but I still just don't have a lot of hope for them actually like winning a playoff series whereas like Miami, Philly, even if they are in the playing, I can see them getting out of the plane, winning a

playoff series, that type of stuff. So that's where the bottom four comes from. And then the Warriors is kind of the same thing where we every like not everything doesn't even look the same. Steph Curry is there and Draymond Green is there. Like the names are still the same. But if you are watching this team, I don't see how they can win. a playoff series, it just, all of their wins seem like they are so hard to get. And like everything has to be right. Like they had a really good game against the Lakers last night, but Anthony Davis isn't there and they made a million threes.

And so that's best case scenario for them. But when they played the Lakers, right, potentially in the playing, Anthony Davis is probably going to be there. And we've seen this year that when AD's there, that game feels completely different. and the Lakers normally have a lot of control on that. So I don't know if they're even going to get out of the playing and I just think that they're going to struggle too much. Steph is going to have to do way, way too much

to even get them to like a competent level. So I don't want to be tricked just by, just because the logo is the same. I have them a little chunk higher than you. It's more so about the teams below them than them. I feel better about them than you do because it's the same thing with the Lakers who I have probably higher.

you'd expect, because I think both teams have been pretty solid since the All-Star break. They just, you know, we're in a deep hole. The conference is loaded. They can't make their way out of the hole. But I don't feel like they've been playing bad basketball by any means. I do think they have a low margin for air, like you said. Everything is difficult. Everything has a click at the right time.

But I think in a playoff matchup against certain teams that the Warriors would not be an easy push over whatsoever. Now, the thing is, similar to the Lakers, we don't know what they're making out the plan. They very much cannot. One of them is going to knock each other out. So I have the Warriors over some teams that are actually in the playoffs

So that's a little weird But I think they've been playing better Than some of these teams I don't even think that's any of it weird I'm higher on the Warriors than both of you guys Because the Warriors have had like since the All Star break They have a record like 17 and 9 They've been one of the seven six best teams

In the entirety of the NBA And them starting The guy that I was going to bat for ironically Trace Jackson Davis Putting them in the starting lineup of course putting Clay back in the starting line, taking out pods, has changed, not the trajectory of this team, like same old, same old, but it gives them an entirely different look because of the things that Trace has been able to produce as a starter averaging like 13 points,

nine rebounds and two blocks a game, insanely valuable shooting like 70% from the field as well. And then Clay Thompson, he's obviously, he helps make this work as well because you can't play two non-shooters in the year 2024 alongside, you know what I'm saying you can't you just can't do that anymore and clay helps bring all that versatility come to life and so i don't know i feel like having them at 16 is fucking nasty they're gonna lose in the plane they're not gonna make it out they're probably it's weird they're not gonna make it out of the plane i don't think i don't think they're gonna be the lakers in the first game they they're last their last year right like they had they had a very

tough way into into the um or actually no well they were the 60 but like they're playing they're playing the Kings, they were down in that series, right? And if Deeran Fox doesn't break his finger, who knows how that series turns out? Like, they've had their backs against the wall for what feels like a year and a half now, maybe even two years. And you see that the way that they got out of that hole, Steph Curry dropped 50 points in Game 7 on the road. Like, that's the level that he has to be at for them to overcome some of these teams. And so if you talk about them getting the eight seed and now they're going to have to go play minnesota um denver or or o kc or somehow i actually know like that's where they're going to be they're going to be the eight seed yeah and now you have to go

on the road to to play those guys they're getting stumped by denny wopped right then Denver is running them off the floor Minnesota is not scared of them and has shown over and over this year he does not care about any of this dynasty any of that and okay see okay see okay he's just a better team and they match up with them very very well they have shooting they have a a very versatile big like i just don't i feel like the path for them especially coming in at the 10 seed it's it's probably the hardest yeah now i'm thinking about it they're not gonna they have no chance in the playoffs so i think i notice and it's a lot of teams and you're kind of moving things up and down and you end up like you move to many teams somebody moves up naturally because of it i feel like i

overlook the fact that there's simply no chance of them winning a playoff series, I think. So I probably should put them a little bit lower. I lean towards credit for how good they've been as of late for the Warriors, but if I'm being realistic, they have literally no chance of making another first round. Say no chance is crazy to me. I wouldn't say they have no chance at all.

They have none. Because they have Steph Curry and the new lineup that they've put out there and the lineup that Steve Kerr has committed to as of late genuinely works and gives them all the versatility in the world that they need and having someone like John that can make to come off the bench, give them an extra scoring punch

and also, you know, have improved defense as of late and just being able to punish teams when they're smaller or whatever generally helps, bro. I like what I see for the words and I'm a little bit higher, or at least a lot of bit higher compared to them, you know, prior to the All-Star break.

Dude, they have to beat the Lakers in L.A. to do that and they still have to go and beat the loser of probably Pelicans Kings, maybe sons that they're still in there. That is a harsh stretch as is to get to the eight seed. And then they're going to face, is the Timberwolves or the, or the freaking Nuggets. Yeah,

Nuggets is different. To get there is already insane. I don't think they're going to be the Lakers. If they do, can they go on the road to Phoenix and beat the Sons after that?

Or the Kings probably because they'll probably lose that game actually. I don't know. I don't even know. I don't even know to make it out of the play in. Exactly. It's tough.

It's tough for them. So, so yeah. So that's why I'm the lowest. And so hopefully after this, you guys see my bottom four are the same as your bottom four. Hawks,

Bulls, Kings, Pacers at 17 through 20, or 20 through 17, I guess the way I said it. Pacers are just not good enough, I don't think, to make a flash in that conference. Shout out to the-Tarries-Halliburton's playing better.

Tyreys Halliburton is looking like he's recovering a shot a little bit. A lot is riding on his shoulders. He has to really be a high-level shotmaker in a playoff setting, which is going to be tough if his rhythm isn't going to be quite there like it was early in the season. We'll see how he looks, how that hamstring looks. He's going to have to be balls to the walls shooting the lights out again. Don't know if you can do that for a full, you know,

series against a top-level defense. they don't have buddy hills anymore they've been struggling to find that shooting the offense is still good but you know they're trying to figure out how to make that work defensively is still not that great you know I just don't see them making a splash the Kings are missing

Malik Monk who's like loki the third best player and Kevin Herder they stink right now without that guard depth I think there's no chance they win to play first round series either so that's why they're low and the calves had the calves at 16 Moe has my 17 so you're even lower on than I am

but yeah There is no reason for optimism right now, bro. They are a disaster. John Mitchell got hurt, and he's came back looking clearly not healthy. They have been an unmitigated disaster over the last 15 games. I am so worried about this team because I think they're going to get first round it again. That's tough. They're going to have some major decisions to make in the offseason.

Everybody's kind of been talking, right, about like the Tray Young, Wembe trade and like trying to pair them together. And then once you start, you know, diving into that, you kind of hear some people saying, like, well, what if you can just try to go get Darius Garland maybe for like a cheaper price? Like, maybe he's, he's available if the cabs want to stick with Donovan Mitchell. Like that, we talked earlier about J.B. Bickerstaff probably being on the hot seat if they get first round. Yeah. Like, there's a lot of, there's a lot of stuff going on with them where it just seems shaky. Evan Mobley, you still don't really know, like, like right now, how do you guys feel about? every mobile ceiling compared to where it was coming into the year or even i don't know last year i mean

can't feel great right like you obviously you got to recalibrate a little bit offensively he's shown signs he's got better a little bit more so than is the biggest haters will say he but the jump shot doesn't come around at all and the jump shot doesn't come around then the finishing won't be that important because there won't be any reason respect them from the perimeter which will open up his finishing the passing you know it all starts and stops to shooting with the guy like him who doesn't have like elite elite athleticism finishing he has to be respected as a jump shooter to make that work but that doesn't happen you're just going to you know he's going to be a elite defender and decent offensive player but can never be a true two-way star and he will never be able to reach

his full potential as long as he's alongside jared allen like the spacing and the math is just not mathing the space is not spacing bro too many bodies in the paint alongside alongside him so it's just hard for him to elevate to that next level when he has another dude who does similar things on offense, maybe even a little bit better sometimes like Jared Allen. And the hard part is that you can overcome that. You can overcome the lack of spacing there and the lack of leap from Evan Mobley as a creator. But the front court, I mean, the back court has also not been good. Donovan Mitchell, like I said, has not been playing well since All-Star Break because of injuries

and just a lot of missed games. In the nine games post-all-star break, he's averaging 17 points per game down from 28 before the break. on 53% true shooting that is below league average he was at 60 before he went from being an all-MBA level player to outright not good

while he's dealing with his injury Darius Garland down to 42% from the field since all-star break he has been awful he has been just overthinking things not making good decisions not shooting well from the field

and neither one of them have been playing well and if you're not going to have truly all-MBA level Donovan Mitchell like we saw early in the season this team has literally no chance they might get swept yeah

Yeah. And so I think that's kind of the only, the only caveat of why I have them higher is, well, I guess not only caveat. There's two reasons why I have them higher. One is there's still the possibility that you get playoff Donovan Mitchell and that like we've seen him. We've seen him rise to a level that is like insane, right? That that duel that he had with Jamal Murray. Like that's a, that's a crazy, crazy ceiling. We've seen that from him time and time again. And so that's kind of there in the back of my mind where I kind of want to give him credit for that. And I know that they're going to be in the tournament. Like I know that they're going to be in the playoffs. So that's a little bit like more assuring. But yeah, something's changing this offseason. Something is going to have. There's a lot of things are changing.

Exactly. There's absolutely no way that we're going to go into next season. And that core four is still together alongside J.B. Bickers' app. Like that's just not, that's just not in the cards. they're projected starting lineup that I started all year Alan Garland Mitchell Mobley Shrews is plus 3.3

per 100 possessions for the season that is so fucking mid like just be three points positive net rate no it's not good that is in the bottom half the league by far closer to the bottom five than it is but in the middle

like that is not a good net rating for a starting lineup tough that's girls bro not gonna lie I sit here and knows I'm like damn bro y'all really are that high on the Orlando

magic in the playoffs going against his playoffs higher than them yeah let's talk about it paces and calves let's talk they're good they're really good I mean like they are legit good I agree they're good but damn brough now you're hate us are a different beast nah nah nah nah yeah you hate it no let's do

let's do the next five I want to see where everybody has as the magic you know you have good reasons I'll let you talk about it more I understand you you're not getting enough credit for what they've shown relative to the rest of the conference but I understand why it's clear they're not make a big splash but you know it's a balance between projection and what they've shown they deserve more credit than a lot of these motherfuckers yeah and I'm going to give them that credit and so that's why

I have the suns at 15 I have the calves at 14 I have the heat at 13 I have the magic at 12 and I have the new Orleans pelicans at 11 um you get the pelicans a lot of credit for how poor they look without round and ingram listen I understand that um but I'll say this for the sons at at 15 I also think that they're going to get first-rounded. But I kind of think, like, especially with the way that, like, the season's going to end, like they're probably going to be in the sixth spot. The Cavs, I gave them that 14 just because that's just the Donovan-Mitchell stuff, like I said earlier. And I think that the suns and the fact, we've talked so much about it.

And I'll just say it again. But the fact that your team is built off of bucket getters. And in the fourth quarter, you guys can't get buckets. that's a problem for me. And I just can't get over it. So that's why you're at 15. The heat, the heat like, guys, it's not going to happen. It's not, it's not going to happen.

They are not going to go on the same run that they did last year. We've seen they have over and over and over again just try to live off of that reputation. And that has kind of massed the second half of the season or where they haven't vaulted up the standings like you've hoped that they would when they finally turn it on and it's because they don't have it this year they it's not it's not going to happen jimmy does not look the same and granted we say that every year but you are asking a lot of him to go from another decline version of himself in the regular season all the way back up to oh yeah i'm scoring 36 35 points a night in the playoffs and we're doing all that that's not it's just not happening and i think that the magic

the magic's defense is legit and i think that they are going to be able to i think they're going to be able to bog down a lot of teams and if they are in the three seed let's say they play a team like the nicks or they play a team like the calves or the pacer's or the he i think they can legitimately win a playoff series against all of those teams because their defense is real i think palo is going to be able to um to hold up the scoring enough and all of those other the teams are faulty to a point where they're not at full strength so it's it's kind of fine you know and you can kind of see that yeah that's the sounds are too low i get the flot that sounds are too low look the calves the calves have are in disarray the magic as much as we respect them don't have the

high-level offense creators to be able to outshute the best teams in the conference as well great's defense is the offensive end isn't able to keep up the pelicans don't have brand ingram have looked like shit since you don't believe in the heat he the i don't I don't even got to talk to you out of that. Yeah. The Sons are there because you saw Limby down 16 to 51 yesterday, isn't it? No. No.

I haven't been high on the suns this entire year. I thought that their ceiling coming into the year was a second round exit. And I think that now it's probably a first round exit. And it wouldn't, it wouldn't shock me. Also, this third guy, I don't, how do y'all feel about Bradley Biel? Because I'm not a huge fan of Bradley Biel or like, or I'm not, like, scared of Bradley Beal in a playoff setting. He's given a reason to be this year.

He's giving you zero reason to be. Exactly. They just don't see. They also, like, quietly are also, like, a mess and don't really know what's going on. Because they are kind of like the heat where everybody's like, oh, yeah, the offense is going to be good. And we'll just see, like, how they defend this and that. That hasn't necessarily clicked the way that you want it to. And it hasn't been as high powered as you wanted to.

So, no, I don't believe in the. And unlike the other, well, I guess outside of New Orleans, but they're the 14, 13 and 12, once again, those matchups like the Knicks, if OGs hurt, they're a completely different team. The Cavs, they're in disarray. The Bucks might not have Janus in the first round. Those teams kind of have a little wiggle room in the first round. The sons are going to have to go up against one of the elite teams of the league in the first round. So that's also why I have them lower. Yeah, I can see that.

If you're being realistic, they have a harder path, but I just think they clearly have a higher ceiling than some of these teams above them. But I didn't rank them in the top 10, so I get it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I didn't rank them in the top 10 either. I was pretty damn close to it. But I would say, I can understand your qualms for the Phoenix Suns, and they haven't done enough at all to go ahead and shore any of us up to. be one of the best at anything in the fucking game at all, bro.

You know, like you have Katie, Devin Booker, and Bradley Beale. And it feels like they got, they collected this trio to do absolutely, like, nothing with it at all, bro. Like, it just feels like, all right, we're here. What's next? That's the weirdest part is we thought they would be, like, one of the most high-powered offenses and a bad defense and, like, have this incredibly strong strength, but, you know, big weaknesses. They don't have any incredibly hard strengths, but they just are, like, well, rounded. They're 11th in offense, 12th in defense, just like cool in both. And that's a weird thing to have happen when you have that type of shot making from your top three to only be

11th in offense. Not promising. But, you know, I talked about how the Cavs starting line has a plus 3.3 net rating. They're just not that good. The Sun starters for all the weaknesses are plus 7.5 in 100 possessions. I think it's in a higher floor than some of the calves who are downtrodden. And listen, we saw in two games last year against the Nuggets. what happens when Bradley win a Devin Booker and Kevin Ramp both get cooking at the same time since unstoppable makes them win two games against the best team in the league

they have to do that four straight times or not four straight before out of seven times in the playoff series I'm not betting on that but that gives them a higher ceiling than some of these teams above them who you don't really see a path to them beating some of these better teams

while the sons at least have some chance even if it's not great you know yeah I can I can I understand that and I do agree that their ceiling is is high higher not much but it's higher yeah i just don't but i guess i just i guess we just disagree on how

low their floor actually is yeah that's what it is yeah and yeah yeah and i just think that they for how disappointing they are the 13 and 10 post break better in some of better than the cabs you know right now they're just the calves that holds me back okay they're they're first of all they're in the playing right now right so i i i thought i thought that they would be able to get up up to six, they'll probably beat the Clippers tonight and may end up at six. Yeah, because nobody's playing for sure. Yeah, everybody, everybody's resting for the Clippers. So if they're at six and it stays right here and they play the Thunder in the first round,

would any of you be shocked if they lost in five games to the Thunder in the first round? I'll be shocked if it was in five games. I wouldn't be shocked if they lost in six, though. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be shocked. The only thing that would shock me is if they get swept, but I think that a five game series, against any one of these of these teams

is 100% in play. It just, they, yeah, they just don't move me. I'm just not a fan of theirs going into the playoffs. I get it. Listen, I'm not the biggest fan of the world either. It's just, like I said,

about the teams above them, but we can move on. Not a team I believe in horribly either way, so I understand you. All right. Who's next? I don't know. Kill telling me.

Okay. Let me pull my list. My screen's covering up a little bit so I can't see. Okay, so at 15, I have the New Orleans Pelicans All the reason we said I wish they were higher

They're not healthy Without an ingroom They don't say much of a chance I think Sad to say 14 Orlando Magic You know same reason Donovan said I think they deserve a little bit more respect

Than Mo gave them I guess I'm in between you guys Because well I think they deserve that respect For how great their season's been Their defense is suffocating Palo and Franz Obviously great wings I can do a lot of the creation for you

Jonathan Isaac and Suggs are some of the best offenders in the league I don't think they have no chance of beating the Celtics. Very little chance, I think, to beating a team like a healthy Sixers. I don't even know if I pick them over the bucks or the Knicks, you know, so.

Do you know why? Like you said, their defense is suffocating, but also their offense is suffocating as fuck too. No one has space to do shit. It's claustrophobic in that motherfucker, bro. You can't do shit offensively. I think their spacing is overhated. I think they do a good job of finding spacing

with good coaching. And I think there's room to operate, but the shot making isn't there. And even if they're space, you're going to have to make shots at a high level, and they just, everything is so tough because the lack of playmaking and lack of creation and, like I said, shot making in that lineup that they're not going to out shoot some of the best teams in the league.

You go total to toe with Janice and Dame and Chris Middleton and Brooke Lopez. As much as they struggle, it's hard for me to imagine them being able to out-execute them in a late-game situation. I agree. But looking back, if I were, looking back, if I was to adjust my list, maybe I'd want to give them a little bit of credit because their defense is just that serious. And in the playoff setting, we've seen teams playoff setting. we've seen teams plenty in the past before lean on defense more than offense and get by

with this with the series or whatever and if any team wants to do it though i know magic i guess could be that team yeah and again i just because they've been so good while so much the conferences shit in themselves that i want to show them a little bit of a yeah just give me a little respect okay okay 13 i went to golden state warriors i should have put them a little bit lower because i didn't again i was tinkering teams too much i put some people below them that i don't think they're going to make it out to play in tournament. So why am I ranking them so highly? But they've been good as of late for all the reasons the Mo said. So there's another thing why get them credit for how good they've been playing. But there's very little chance they can make anything of it.

Okay. Okay. Miami at 12. 12 Miami Heat 11 Knicks. It hurts me so much with the Knicks lower because I love the Knicks a couple months ago when they got OG and we're fucking cooking. Yeah. But we know Julius Randall's not going to be there. I want to I believe in Jalen Brunson as much as anybody. He's awesome. He's one of the best scorers in the NBA. I don't think people realize he is a top five score on points your game this year.

Utterly ridiculous. Can truly carry them much more than a lot of other stars can with lack of help around them. They've done a good job of not letting teams just throw doubles at Jalen and knock him out of the game. They do a really good job of using Dante Divencenzo as a release valve, Isaiah Hardenstein. They have built

themselves in a way that allows Jalen to thrive even his only star. But without Randall, like there's a ceiling that you know as much as i want to hype them up and say they're going to be this great team that does all these things if you don't have randall and you have just one shot maker and you're up against teams like the celtics teams like the bucks you have multiple that can match up and slow things down and really really put the pressure on jalen i don't know if the ceiling's there anymore i 10% agree nico can we pull up my next five because i had the new york next at 15 actually

because their ceiling is just so much lower now i'm not that low i'm looking the keys of 14, get the fuck out of my face. What do you mean? The kick suck. Okay. Let's relax. All right, you got it. Let's relax.

You're not going to sit down and disrespect the beam like that. All right. The beam sucks. They're horrible without Malik-Munk and hurry. Let me read off the list to the audio. To the audio. My bad. Okay.

There we go. Sorry. Sorry. 15. New York Knicks. 14. Sacramento Kings. 12 of y'all stand up.

Don't hide. 13. Indiana Pacers 12. Miami and 11 the Phoenix I let Donovan Nick's fan of overtaking me for a second

I got mad for him so New York Knicks man how are you guys Donovan how are you feeling about this selection specifically I mean let's yell

listen no we don't we don't have to I'm trying to do a better job of controlling my emotions and like some class it's like I mean listen

like when you see stuff that is foolish you don't have to react to it so I don't I don't feel the need to get all riled up. Like, it's fine. You said you're taking it's beneath them. It's fine.

So you have the Knicks top 10 is what you're telling me. Yes, I do. It's disgusting. I do. But I mean, and obviously, like, that's because I like them. And I think that, I think that like the Knicks and especially if OG is there, I think they, even without Randall, I think they still have a little bit of a ceiling against some of the other teams in the East just because everybody has problems. And I've seen what like when OG is on the floor, the defense goes to a crazy level. And so like having that defensive ceiling and being able to have more of a free Jalen Brunson

offensively with OG out there, I think that they do have a high ceiling in the Eastern Conference to still to still kind of fight their way to a conference finals potentially. But I mean, to have them beneath the Kings and the Pacers is kind of wild. I mean, that's fine. Teach their own, you know. Oh, wow. I forgot OG's playing. I completely forgot OG's playing.

He recently came back like, what, two, three games ago? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, I think I'm actually, I'm actually going to do Knicks up a spot. I think, I know who's at 10. I have the Sun's at 10. I'm going to swap them.

The Knicks, I think it's still making conference finals. I don't think the Suns can. Yeah. Which maybe that's just a testament to the week conference. But I think I want to swap that. Put the Knicks at 10, sons at 11. You don't got to change it to kill,

but let the next. viewers know i'm pushing the next up one okay yeah okay yeah that's fair if i also swap anything as well maybe you'll be the Orlando magic in sacramento kings my only thing about the kings though is that like no matter what who they face up they're not going to be like an easy go at it you know i'm saying no one's like oh thank god sacramano kings genuinely speaking they're not going to get everybody will say that no matter who everybody will say that if i've any team in the conference and i can have a first round matchup i want the i want the i want the kings They don't have heard or a monk

They're so they have no depth now And you're telling me I get to play subonis in the playoffs Yes bring them You say I like subonis is Trey Liles or some shit What the fuck If I got to go bare he might as well be Listen I would be so happy to play the Kings They can have home court advantage

I would give them home court advantage And I would still beat them in five It's okay They are food in the in the playoffs They were already if he as is They were already got surpassed But the fact that they're not healthy completely, it's just, they're finding an uphill battle

against teams that are simply more talented. Yeah. It's similar to the Warriors thing where even if you're high on them in their play style, which I know you're higher than me. Obviously, I'm Sabona's hater. I get it. I appreciate you being higher than me on them. I understand it.

But you think about the matchups they're going to have in front of them that are going to be healthier teams or talented teams. It's hard to imagine really make any type of run. For sure. No one's, or at least I'm not expecting them to go ahead and be winning a first round series. That's not what this range is for me at all. True, true. Good point. Good point.

This is just quite literally. Yeah, this is just literally, yo, could you take them to a fucking six bare minimum in the Sacramento Kings or a six series out of type team? That's all it is. You're right. It is still just 14s. I get it. But yeah, I'm just, I view them as such a walking look right now. Exactly. Wow, bro. You disrespect the king so much. And once they get outed in six games, I want to be like, ha. Episode 84. Out of 40. I feel comfortable tripling down on Kings 8 because I think they're going to get clapped either way. So I feel like this is a safe hill to die on. I mean, if I look stupid, I look stupid. They're going to get clapped.

I agree with you. But it's which way, which position are they going to get clapped at. That's where we're having this conversation, you know. And I just don't think they're going to get clapped in the worst way. You do. I don't. I don't. I don't think they're going to make it out of the plan.

If they're going to plan, I don't think they're making it out. I don't, I don't either. I've, I've said it for a minute. I if they played the Lakers everyone wants to point to like oh the Kings they own the Lakers they own that matcher be be for real like in a one game scenario are you taking Dier and Fox and subonis or are you taking LeBron and AD like come on like we we have to be real about that even if they played the the Warriors Steph has had a lot of success against against Sacramento I would take them over over them Phoenix even for as much as as you know we just talked about their issues I still. still think that in a one game scenario i would i trust i trust devon booker more than i trust them alone i trust him more than fox and a bonus combined like you just go up and down the list and you start you start you start you start thinking about the matchup and it's like yeah it's not it's not really great like i'm gonna have to go into into war with kean ellis like he's cool

and barns he's cool he hasn't been watching keon ellis minutes that's all that's telling me he's cool he's fine but like he's a good bad Bench player. When he's your starting shooting guard and has to play big minutes because you don't have Monk and Herder. That's just asking a lot of somebody so young. Exactly. He's impactful. He's impactful. He is, he is, but he's overtax now. He is good though. Overtax to some extent, for sure.

He's great as your seventh man. It's a very good luxury to have. As you're starting shooting guard with nothing behind him, I'm a little worried. Can't do it. Can't do it. But I am. We can move on the top 10. Yeah, interesting top 10. Listen, we're spending a lot of time debating teams that are all going to wax. doesn't matter yeah exactly like we said we're just arguing two games right now that's it

and that's why that's why we're us we'll argue about nothing yeah to break into the top 10 at number 10 it says the suns I'm switching them with the nets with the Knicks the next the next number 10 sons 11 nine I have the Los Angeles Lakers eight 76ers seven bucks and six clippers do you all feel like I had the Lakers too high actually no none of you all sudden yes we all have in top 10 yes yeah I mean the Lakers look at us Look at us believe in Darwinham Sixes are fine I promise you

It's not a vote of confidence in Darwinham He is not the reason Why I have them in the top ten Yeah I mean I low key kind of want to put them A little bit higher

I felt like I had to just like Fight my own bias here So I went to 76 years Who Listen, Dwell and beats back He looks pretty good I prior to his injury I felt like they have as good

As good as a chance as any As given the Celtics A tough run at it So I put them higher The bucks You know it's a conference thing They're going to, second best team in the conference because this conference is garbage.

I think they have a higher chance of making a run. I don't feel great about the bucks right now. And the Lakers have been legitimately good over the, since the All-Star Brady. They just are in the conference from hell, but they've been number two in offense

for like 30 games. Since they've added Rue Hachamor into the lineup, they're legit, have a big offensive ceiling, and defensively has not been impressive. They've been bottom 10. But, you know, in a playoff series and LeBron's going to ratchet it up,

you have Anthony David, can use him in creative ways. I have a feeling their defense can be fine and they have the offensive firepower to really outshute some good teams. I don't necessarily feel strong about it because, like the Warriors, they might not make it out of the play in tournament.

They had to win two straight games in a single elimination scenario. Anything can happen. There's a world where they straight up lose the first time in the Warriors advance. But if they make it into a seven-game series against the Timberwolves, against the Thunder, whoever may be, anybody but the Nuggets,

I think they have a chance of winning the first-on series. Yeah. I think that's very fair. I have the Lakers actually in the same exact spot. I think they have a chance against anyone not named the Denver Nuggets as I believe any any other any other NBA team does. But yeah, that's not.

That's not a bad pick at all. That's not a bad placement. I wouldn't have any qualms about that. It's interesting having the 76ers at number rate because of the unique situation that they're in. Joe Meebiz coming back. Tyrese has seen like all types of fucking cover just now that he's been the lone star. and to some in some weird way

I feel like that's been an advantage of his because now you know like he knows what that pressure feels like as the lone guy and at times during specific moments in the playoffs you will feel like that and so having him a having in May 8 is very interesting

sometimes some weird feeling in me wants to put him higher than that I don't even remember where I put him out my list Hey cook yeah I did have I'll be mad I had him higher on my list and that's so interesting and I think that speaks to how fucking low I had the Milwaukee bucks. Yeah.

Honestly, you could put the seven years higher. I don't have any problem with it. I just felt like I was doing a lot as is projecting because like they said, they've, they've fallen so far down the standings. They're seven seed now. But, you know, Embed's back, it looks like he's going to be Embed for the play in tournament if they're still in there. They're 30 and eight with Embedithes this season.

That's incredible. 15 and 27 without him. So they were straight up dumpster fire without him. But like you said, maybe Maxie got some good reps from that. Maybe everybody healed will look better with Joelle Mb the full time. the lineup of Batum and Bede Harris Maxi Melton which I don't even know if Melton's gonna be

there and healthy but if he is plus 33.2 in 219 minutes played Pretty good one of those dominant lineups in the league with over 200 minutes played that's utterly ridiculous that's the highest in the NBA of teams that played at least 200 minutes

yeah special stuff man Moe what's your next five I want to see you let's roll into next five here we go I got 10 the Los Angeles Angeles Clippers, nine, the Lakers, eight, I'm standing on it. Trace Jackson, Jr.'s Golden State Warriors, seven, the bucks, and at six, I have the Philadelphia 76ers. I love the six replacement, not mad at it.

Let's talk about it. Obviously, you're bugging with the Warriors, given their incredible, incredibly hard path to get there. I get it. They've been good. I don't think they've been this motherfucking good. come on why don't you think they've been this good bro they've genuinely been like they've turned the page of this was the starting lineup that they ran throughout the entirety of the season if steve cur did not just straight chose to give this rookie dnps for half of the league

you know what i'm saying no so just put jonathan comminga into the shadow room not even talking about this season for the past season or whatever this team would not be as down bad as they word they wouldn't be a fucking 10th seat in this position so much of the lakers i think they have a new newfound light and step said in this in the uh press conference last night they have a fucking pulse now and they have started to find their new identity sucks that has been so late but it's fucking happening it's here don't be a fool don't ignore it and acknowledge it i did acknowledge it i put them in the top 15 instead of nope the bottom of the top tenets be a man do you think of the lakers in the playing tournament both teams healthy with anthony

David's there. Yeah, I'll put money on the, I'll put money on the Warriors. We can make it, we can make a bet right now. Put it on the TV three board. We can put $50 on this game. Do you want it right now? Shake on it. Yeah, virtually shake on it. $50, Lakers are going to beat them in home in Los Angeles. I'm going to virtually slap your ass to one of the Lakers going. Hanging shit. Now if they win, do you think they're going to beat their sons? You can win both in a row. Listen, I'm just talking about the goddamn Lakers. That's it. But I would have them at eight.

They would have a great chance against the Phoenix Suns, for sure. Okay. Actually, there's sons probably win their first game, so they'd beat the Kings, which I think they will do, actually. But can't they beat the Timberwolves? Can they beat the Nuggets or the Thunder

when they go to eight against one? Fuck no. I would be so surprised if the Warriors have a chance of being the one seed. Unbelievably surprised. Yeah, the Timberwolves had literally, quite literally have the Warriors number.

They've never beat them this entirety of the season. So it's hard for me to go out and say, yes, confit. I look like a fucking bozo. So I don't know about that The Nuggets, obviously not I think the Thunder

will beat the living shit out of the Golden State Warriors in a playoff series There are better matchup for the Thunder I think they would blitz them I think it would be bad Which maybe it's to be those

I'm clearly I've been It wouldn't be a year Maybe I'm a little bit too high on them Maybe it would be a hard fought Six game series They match up the best against them They match up quite literally The best against them

Compared to the Denver Nuggets or the Minnesota Timbles Because of the spacing issues and show like that For sure But that's just because the other That's just because they have no fucking chance with the other two teams

and they have a little bit of chance against the Thunder. So like, yeah, it's the best of it but it's still not a good scenario. And like, listen, you could pick, you agreed you can find a world where you see the Lakers

being one of those teams if it's not the Nuggets and they're having a run. Do you really see a world with the Warriors and do the same thing? One of those teams? Yes, and if one of those teams are the Oklahoma City of Thunder,

then yes, of course. Why? So would you pick the Warriors? Would you pick the Warriors if it started today, then against the Thunder? It's not about me picking the Warriors. If I pick the words on a fucking out in top five, bro.

I put the words at eight. You want me to put him at fucking five. I'm not doing that shit, bro. Damn. All right. You got it. You got it. I appreciate you being on.

I get it. They've been good. I understand. Too rich for my blood. Trace. The Clippers have been bad as of late, but not that bad. My only thing is that similar to how I felt about the Knicks and Ogen, Nounobi. Of course, I would have put them higher if I was aware that this dude was playing actually well over the last two, three games.

James, Kauai Leonard. If he's going to be back, then this is a completely different conversation. Kauai Leonard and having conversations about his knees is so fragile. And I just, it worries me, scares me, and it changes everything about this team. So I assume he would be healthy to be there. I get it. Yeah. All right.

Let's get my five. So I have the clip of that team. I have the bucks at nine, have the Sixers at eight. Let's go. Mix at seven, the Lakers at six. where do we want to start where do we want to start okay so you two both agree the clippers and number 10 i that's way too low for me i think give their flaws are there but we know kauai turns it on the playoff setting i still think they have a higher ceiling than a lot of these

teams why are you also down on them because their floor is bad james hard and bad paul george and they haven't been good um for a long time um yeah and so i feel like limping into the playoffs is not a great sign. And they are scheduled to face somebody that it looks like we all have in the top five. Listen, that white man is on his way. And he has vengeance in his heart because he's lost to them two times in the playoffs. He's coming for blood and he's ready. So I think that they are in very, very dangerous territory of getting first rounded. So that's why I have them at 10. And their path right now is already hard. They would have to go through Luca and Kyrie. And then on top of that potentially go through Yokic as the as the one seed really whoever they play

in the you know whoever it gets to one seed it's going to be hard but I think that the nuggets are going to end up getting it so that's why I have them at 10 uh so yeah you're right yeah again I have overlooked a lock first on matchup I forgot it's a near certainty they're going to play the Mavs and I had the MADS extremely high so I think I think I should probably move down the clippers a little bit. Yeah, I don't. I agree. I'm not, I'm not feeling too good. I'm not feeling too good about them right now. Yeah. I'm not feeling great either. I forgot they're going to play the Mavs and I don't. Spoiler alert to our predictions episode coming soon. I'm not picking the Clippers in that series. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. And then you haven't seen. Y'all got it. Y'all got it. You win.

Nice. Nice. Nice. I have the bucks at nine. Nice. Yonis, listen, Janis just got hurt. Just saying he has a left cap strain. I don't know when he's going to be back. And then whenever he does come back. I don't know how much of, I don't know, like, how healthy he's going to be. We saw last year he missed a couple games in that first round series. And even whenever he came back, they still weren't able to get the job done in round one. So I think that they're at, again, serious, serious danger of losing in the first time, especially if he's not there. And on top of that, they, you, I just can't get on on their bandwagon. I can't be a part of their program. Doc Rivers doesn't, Doc Rivers doesn't move me. I don't think that they have shown

all year they have not put together a legitimate stretch where the wins and the performance on court has matched up. So I just can't trust them. Embed at eight, probably I could see a scenario where they're at seven for me above the Knicks. I just want to see Mb play a whole playout series. Coming back from this, like it's been a, you know, he's ramping back up. Hopefully he's fine, but I just need to see it. I just need to see the health and that's it. And then the Lakers at six for everything that you guys said it's part of the reason why they made that run last year was because ruy was shooting the lights out right was because everybody around them was just going crazy from from from three you had these crazy Lonnie walker games all that that's a part of

their identity now and if you have that three point shooting that is the formula you have lebron james shooters and a fantastic room protecting big and anthony davis who can also give you 27 they deserve to be higher and you'll see the only people that they're lower than are the elite elite of the conference so yeah that's that's my list i'm with you i just couldn't put them that high when there's such a real chance they lose in the playing you know like that's fair that's fair it's a path thing where like i'm trying to balance what they've shown us plus what i think they can do realistically hard to win two straight games lebron's gonna have to try as hard as he can burn himself out a little bit and then play the one seed which you know it very well could be the

nuggets there's a good chance they'll have to play the nuggets in the first round because they are probably going to be the eight seed. And that's, and that's fine. And I, and I do get that. I look at, I look at one game scenarios and I always look at who's going to be on the other side of that. Yeah. And if you have LeBron, I'm just never going to be scared in a one game scenario because

I'm always going to feel like when we get to the last five minutes of the game, I'm going to have the best player on the floor. I'm going to have somebody, I'm going to have somebody. I'm going to have somebody who's going to make the right decisions. I'm going to have somebody who can control all the chess pieces. And I just don't trust that many people more than I trust LeBron in a club situation. So I, the playing for, I would be shocked if they went home in the playing. I hope you're right.

I will be devastated losing the plane. Oh, that one time. Yeah. Before we get to the top five, Donovan. What's up? Before we get to the top five, I think it's time for producer corner. Let's go. So, as you guys know, we've gotten a kill here.

He's prepared something for us. We don't know what it is. Just your time to shine, your producer corner, tell us what the top of conversation is today before we get to the top five. What's up, y'all? What's up? Hey.

Listen, this is quickly becoming my favorite time of week. Because I can tap a mic in front me, you know? But yeah, as you all know, I've been kind of cutting down. We have Donovan's bachelor party coming up. So the cravings have been at an all-time high. Okay. After our show ended last week, I don't even think I said bye.

I immediately got Popeyes. Big back. Big your behavior, man. Oh, shit. It was tracked in the macros. I had sugar-free syrup on it with some hot sauce. It was delicious. All right?

Nice. By the way, dog chicken? Oh, yeah. It's a little sweetness. It's a little sweetness. I understand honey. Serum's a little strange, but I get it. By the way, quick quick little plug Donovan's getting married if you're if you're an attractive woman in your mid-20s

What? What the hell? What I need a date for the wedding bro? Come on Oh That's not where I thought you were going but good Hashton Five always that you last chance

Guys don't think so great cravings have been all time all right I've been all time I've been trading every type of fried chicken there is like crazy. Oh, this is about to get racist. I don't mean for that to happen. But yes, we are going to tearless different types of chicken of eating chicken. Okay, let's go. So that's the producer corner. All right, let's go.

You came on here. You're cooking. You're a real eater, man, for that one. I've never seen anyone my entire life. Tearless different types of chicken. It's crazy. You're dedicating. I'm not going to like mentally this kind of runs through my head all this only happened in the ex-launch. It's crazy I'm mentally I'm holding back so much

Honestly, I was on the edge of doing this, but that's why I gave such a such a detailed segue. I was like I need any context to be captured. Okay You need to make sure it doesn't look crazy. Yeah, all right. Let's start out. Is I ready to raise some fried chicken? Do you can say you set yourself up? You're never in two million years beating yourself with those elegans Oh my god. Alright, let's start. Let's start, let's start. Let's rank some chicken. He's the y'all are experts.

All right, let's lock in. Let's lock it. Isaac, your feet are swinging, bro, relax. Alright, let's get the basic side of the way. We got the basic just grilled chicken. Like homemade fire at the grill? Sure. Yeah.

Barbecue sauce on or not? It doesn't matter. Let's do as is. As is. I mean, it's probably a C. Nah, I'll go about a beat. Even with barbecue sauce, what's the ceiling you're giving just grilled chicken? You can get some really good grilled chicken.

I think like especially depending on like how, like how you cook it, you get the right season and rub. It's like even like you can get a nice like barbecue seasoning rub. You can you can put that at B. I'm okay with that. Yeah. Yeah. High floor.

I was going to nest, but okay. Oh. Oh. Listen, there's a lot of good chickens here. I don't want to shoot a little too fast. I know, but I'm also factoring a health in here, too. And that is. Oh, no, I'm not talking about that.

I'm not talking about that right now. Yeah. My fitness, pal. Let's talk to it. Yeah, more for straight taste. Okay. All right. You guys said B.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You're factoring protein levels. Get out of my shirt out. I think another easy one just, listen, rotissory chicken. That's like a, it has a B ceiling, but it's like a C. It's a C.

It's a C. See? This is kind of the word. It's got to be the worst item on here. Are we giving everything to see her above? If you're walking into someone who's asking for rotissory chicken. Listen, rotissary chicken does what it needs to do. It's cool.

It's a staple. It's a staple. Don't disrespect rotissory chicken. You, if you had Sam or Costco, fresh off the line? What? Have you ever stood in line for a rotisserie chicken? Oh my goodness. And you stood in line?

Of course, did you have to wait for a hot? Like, it's a lot. I've never done. that yeah listen but listen before you before you eat it it's esther because you're hungry from like grocery shopping whatever after you eat it it's probably like c i'd tell you this i've stood in line longer for rotissary chicken than i have for jordan threes okay so i'm i'm giving it i'm giving it some some credit i have to put it at c i have to do it i have to do it wow you fucking eater Capital E, A, T, E-R.

God damn, bro. You need that deadstock, Pat. I'm putting it at C, I guess. I'm putting it at C. I can understand putting it at D just because it can't get a little bit played out. But I will go see. Waiting in line and putting it at C is fucking wild. You said that as if it fucking made your fucking Friday, bro.

Like, you know exactly when the trucks come in. They start the goddamn chicken. Put that bitch in the oven, like, see, it's crazy. Okay. You're like the people that. 11.30 every Friday. You can say, which is the past. Yeah.

11.30 every Friday. Like, that's whatever they, they come out. This is insane. Come on. Let's, I love this. Come on. This is my favorite type of conversation to have. Okay, man.

What's next? All right. Cain's chicken, just a chicken. No sauce? F. No. But everybody eats it with sauce. That feels unfair.

You don't eat it with sauce. You don't even like the sauce. I was thinking the same thing. I'm one fourth of the people here So It's unfair to It's unfair to raising Keyes To put in a scenario that would never happen

All right, let's vote on it You don't want to include sauce or not? No Sure I say no sauce Okay, no sauce I would put it at D Because we're just talking about

Chicken Okay I've only had it once I get kids I add sloppy mama seasoning Every single time So sloppy mama seasoning What is that?

Oh see You're not a You're not a You're not a real seasoner. Ew. What does even look like? What color is it? It's a red bottle?

It's a sloppy mama. Come on, man. I'm not going to. You're a grown man. Like, you don't know how to cook? No. I'm from Atlanta.

We don't got fucking canes down there, bro. All we know is Popeyes, KFC, bow jangles type shit. You know what I'm saying? Don't have kings? I love canes.

To me, it's a personal S tier, but I understand you're a little lower. I go, I'm going D. I'm going D. Okay. I would.

D? I've also kind of been off of Cain's for a while Since we since we left college I've been off of it I love Cains I think those are at least A tier But I know it's polarizing I think when they're firing in all cylinders Like when those teenagers are back there

I'm like they're actually caring When the oil's fresh Listen I beef with fast food employees all the time man When they're back there and they care about their job Cains can be like an A Like an S Put it an A I had it

I had it once But it was never like Oh my God This carries me I'm looking forward to this meal Like B Sounds like a B I'm going to be in the middle of B

I'm meat too in the middle of B Feels like B I understand Alright next one is a Like chicken cutlet It's like chicken parm That type of chicken But that shit ass

I see I'm about to get here real You know what I'm about to get real Listen A good chicken cutlet A good chicken cutlet right you get some nice sauce on it oh my god it's something you want to get real sauce you don't make me get a good bro don't chicken from college listen man over some rice

let's come on i'm walking in it wow right is it really like that yes i've had it a few times yes it's like a nice crispy a nice crispy chicken cutlet right some good i think good sauce you you can get kind of spicy with it get a get like a vodka sauce on it as well brother listen we can we can do some things right we can eat i guess the last time that i had chicken cutlet it was like my sandwich was literally massacred with tons of coles you got trauma just ruined everything coles no no we're not we're not putting the coleslaw on this again we're putting mariner sauce we're putting a nice tomato sauce we're putting the vodka sauce on it right you ever have fresh fresh moots right on a on a chicken sauce we're putting a

cutlid sandwich right on the chicken palm sandwich who per schmutz come on man what is that exactly you're not you're not a you're not a real eater put it put it in a put it i'm not a real eater i guess you're fine speed this up we spend a lot time my chicken yeah my fault all right let's do let's do wings s s too oh s we're not talking about yeah yeah all right just regular fried chicken poppice s yes a yes okay fine that's for sure staple all right uh so what about a chicken sandwich it can This is a chick-flay sandwich, but it can get anything. Let's the chick-flat specifically, S-deer. S.

Clear-ass. All right, what about hot chicken? A, I'm kind of fucking sick of it. I'm in L.A. now. I've been here for about a year. Every fucking block in Los Angeles, at least on the west side where I live, non-stop hot chicken. I'm being assaulted by Dave's hot chicken on my eye line every single day. Every time I step outside, I'm fucking tired of it.

You got it. But it's still great. A-tier. I've never had hot chicken, so I can't speak on it. What? Wow. It's good. No.

Yeah. You've never had it before. No. You've never had hot sauce on chicken? No, like the No, no, like the Nashville hot chicken. Like Dave's hot chicken, yeah. Yeah, yeah, but it's just chicken toss and hot sauce.

You know, it's kind of self-explanatory. I've never. It's pretty good. I would have it. I prefer Dave's over like Keynes. I agree. I can't get there, but I get it. Yeah, I've never had it.

100%. I'll go eight-tier. Yeah, A-tier is the perfect range for it. And that, and that's our tier list. Once again, Donovan, this is another perfect, deep, tear list. Wow. How could it not be?

Listen, I have jokes, but I know you, I know people can't, listen, they can't, they can't tiptoe the line, you know, it's going to get real crazy. So good list, comments from us. Good list from us. Wow. Listen, they'll be correct. If I see the comments, I'll laugh. Okay. Back to the top five of our power rankings.

Let's go. Let's go ahead and let's move on to this. top five. Show us everybody's list. Here we go. Okay, so obviously, it seems that we all have the same teams here. Yes. Let's go ahead and read off. I'll go first. At number five, I had Minnesota Timberwolves. At four, the Oklahoma City Thunder, three of the Dallas Mavericks, two of the Boston Celtics, and one, the Denver Nuggets. What Isaac just said, I have the same exact list, same exact order. Okay, there we go. First of a dab. Me, I'm different. I'm different. I I had the thunder, I mean, I had the Timberwolves at five,

had the Mavericks at four, the Thunder at three, the Nuggets at two, and the Celtics at one. Interesting. Okay. Biggie's difference, obviously, you have the Nuggets, Celtics at one, which, you know, I can't really argue with. They have been unequivocally the best of regularities and team in the league by far.

Well, honestly, one of the best statistical teams of all time. They are on a ridiculous pace, going to blitz through the finals. So on that account of you saying you're almost guaranteeing they're making the finals, I understand. But I think the Nuggets are going to win the finals. I think they're going to beat them when they both make it to the finals. I view both of them as a near lock to make it. I went with the team I think he's going to win it all.

And that's fine. That's exactly what I did. I said at the beginning of the year that I thought that Boston was going to win the title. And so going in like at least going like off of the regular season, bro, they're 15, 16 games ahead of the second place team in the Eastern Conference. They are. That shows how shitty the East is too. I mean, but they're also, but they're also one of the few teams, I mean, they're the only team that's going to be over 60 wins. Like, they are so, so good.

And when we get to the playoffs, like, obviously there's still some stuff about them, late game situations where I don't feel the best, but their top six, they are able to just blitz everybody. And the fact that you can have Drew Holiday or Derek Wyatt or Alhofer or any one of them come off of the bench and you can move so many pieces around. Even within just those six players, I think that when they are firing at their best, they are the team to beat in the NBA. And so that's why I have them at one. Yeah, I respect that fully. They are, they, by all accounts, should win the NBA finals.

The only reason we're picking the Nuggets is because we've seen what Yokch can do. And we trust the guy who we think is one the best players of all time. But all logic, take that away, all logic says the Celtics should win the finals. It will be a massive letdown if they don't. 100%. So yeah, so that's what I'm going there. And then also, I really wanted to give the Thunder credit for everything that they've done. And they have shown, they haven't really shown a lot of weaknesses in terms of, in terms of like their play style.

Now, obviously they do have a weakness and we'll see if Josh Kitty is going to hold the team back. But he's played pretty well in the last couple of weeks. And it's gotten better from where we were like a month ago when it was like legitimately a problem. And also, I think that if he starts to play like that, I do think that Mark Dagnon is good enough of a coach to where in the playoffs, Isaiah Joe, you take that spot. Aaron Wiggins, you take that spot. And he will make that adjustment. So I'm putting my faith in Mark Dagnon.

I'm putting my faith in Shay, who's, I'm putting my faith in J-dub, who is probably going to have a coming out party. Like I think a lot of people in like who watch the NBA like very closely, they've kind of tracked his ascension and they're like no like he's good he's a star do you get to you get to the playoffs and you're going to see him being shay's running mate and being able to have 30 point games have big moments he's about to hit the mainstream for real yeah don't mo i think i speak for both of us we both agree i've been on high as a thunder as anybody in the fucking world this year people call me a thunder glazer a check glazer j wazer wazer all this stuff but that white man in

Dallas is motherfucking dangerous and over the last 15 games they have the number one defense in the NBA and it's been

pretty easily they have a 105.5 defensive rating over the last 15 games their starting lineup with PJ Washington

and Daniel Gaffer both starting next to the other three usual has been the most effective lineup in the NBA recently.

Lucas playing one and two is the best playing in the world with Nicola Yokic Kyrie is playing fantastic

I at this point am penciling them into the Western Conference finals. I think they are peeking at the right

time they have the best player in any matchup except against the nuggets and it's damn close still I will be so baffled if they're not in the conference finals yeah I can I can agree with you they just have everything written in in terms of like the checkbox checklists which is like you know for the Dallas Mavericks for the longest time they haven't been able to check off having a good defense longest time meaning the last two years and they finally got over that hump have a legit obviously second star you can't have too many second options better than Carrie fucking Irving

then alongside of that of course like you have the non-tale excellence of the world who's reliable. Derek Jones Jr. hasn't gone anywhere and has been one of the better role players in the entire NBA. Daniel Gafford is there. Derek lively hasn't gone anywhere. PJ Washington's there like bro.

They are, I don't want to say loaded, but they have plenty and they finally have enough for Luca Donge to be like I can cook with this shit and I can turn up an entire playoff series and leave. Exactly. As soon as the deadline happened, we all picked them as the winner of the deadline. We thought that these additions to the big men would make them so much better and fix their issues. Like I said, early in the season, I said their biggest weakness is a lack of athleticism in the front court.

Insert Daniel Gaffrey and say PJ Washington. Fix fixes that. Immediately they look good. After that, they had a little skid when I was like, oh, God, did I overreact? Is it just PJ Washington? Is it just Gafford? Am I, oh, God, did I expect too much of these guys? No, I did not.

That was the overreaction to a few losing games. They have been as great for them as we could have been We were right at the deadline to expect this team to be good and they've been even better than we could have ever imagined Like Mo said

You have the best guard in the NBA The best second option in the NBA Potentially up there Maybe it's Anthony Davis Maybe it's whoever One of the best second options And the literal best defense in the league How can you pick against them

In any series that's not Against the best offensive big man We've seen in recent years Listen, it's hard They have a listen The Thunder While not as dangerous they too have a very very scary white man that they can that they can deploy and the fact that

you can put Shay and Chet into actions down the stretch that you can have all this versatility between him J-dub and Chet like that big three right there or that okay not not big three but call it a big three it is big three okay cool that that big three they're able to do so much and the fact that Chet is going to be able to hold down the paint and really, really anchor this defense. And you're not going to have a situation where, like, he's not going to have to go up against a Yokic if they play the Mavericks. He's not going to have to go up against it and be somebody that can really, really push his skinny frame to the test. And so I think that he's going to be able to stay doing what he's been doing and really, really, you know, be an impact defender. And so if that happens, I think I like OKC to do to do what they do.

And Lucas is going, obviously, I trust Luca to do whatever he does offensively. He's going to have to work defensively. He's going to, like, Shea's going to go at him. J. Do's going to go at him. They are going to figure out if he is up to the test to play some defense. And if not, it could get scary in a couple of games. Yeah. I guess all the things I'm saying, too, also Pye the Thunder.

Also a top defense, also one of the best guards in the NBA. NBA also a second star in jdub so I understand that's close like I said I love the thunder too but I just can't pick against Luca at this point that's fair that's fine that's fair but something I will pose is that we all have the Minnesota 10 rolls at five could you guys not edge them any higher into this elite top four group not without cat it seems like cats it seems like that's gonna be back though we'll see what that looks like it doesn't really matter you can put them above the thunder if you'd want you can swap them I view them as relatively close. Like the Timberwolves are the five seed in this, not five seed, but the fifth team here.

For reasons that aren't really about them, it's just the teams above them are so incredibly talented that I think while they are last of this group, they belong in this group very much. You know, like I don't need his disrespect to say the last in the group. The top group is just so insane. But I think the Timberwolves very much belong and I'm not mad at you if you put them at four. Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. I'm with that. Why do you ask? Did you hesitate? No, I didn't hesitate at all. I'm just like Denver. Timberos have been doing so good. They've been surviving like a motherfucker

without Carnes any towns. As we speak in the making of this podcast, they're going toe to toe to with the Denver Nuggets. Like they usually have over the course of the last 12, 13 months. And damn, they're at the 5C. This is the best that they can be with this roster. I don't envision them getting any better unless like obviously cat healthy changes a lot or whatever.

But still, you know, they've done all this. And they still can be one of the four best teams in the entire NBNR. I mean, that's his life when you have the two toughest white men alive, the most stacked team in recent NBA years, and then Shea and them who are just obviously fantastic too. Like it's, again, no discount to them. It's just a really good group of teams up top. Yeah. I would put, I wanted to go ahead and put the Timberwolves over OKC, but then I saw Shay come back off of like the quad that's been bothering him over the past few, over the past like a week or so. And he dropped for you on Deere and Fox's head. And I was like, okay, never mind. That dead means absolutely. nothing. The injuries mean nothing to him. So I'm like, okay, he's still back. So yeah. It's tough though. Again, I'm not mad at any options here.

Dude, it's if, okay, so we all expect a Nuggets versus Celtics finals. If that doesn't happen, why do you think that'll be? What team do you think will replace one of those teams? It'll be had to pick one. It'll be the Dallas Mavericks. There's no way in hell.

It'll be anyone else other than them in my mind. I just can't see. Can't envision a world. Can't envision a world. world's not to the Dallas. Yeah, think about that. Okay, so Donovan, you put the thunder above the Mavericks because you think they'd win that series, you'd be a little bit better if I'm understanding that correctly. Yeah.

Which one of those teams do you think has a better chance to be in the Nuggets, though? I think the Mavericks have a better chance. But this is tough. Yeah, I think the Mavs would have a better chance going up against the Nuggets just because that singular, like, force of Luka, being able to match. match um being able to match yokech i think that kind of levels out where like as the thunder it feels even though the shade is like amazing and he scores all this it feels more of like a collective team effort and i think that if you're going team for team Denver kind of gets the edge there whereas

all right yokech is going to do what he's going to do obviously like jamao mary will see how he elevates but it if it's yokitch and murray and that two main game versus luka and kairie and their, you know, two superpowers doing all that, I think that matches up a little bit better. Yeah. It's tough, man. Like, it feels like we're the, I keep telling you guys this off camera, Luca Donchish is the main character. And it feels like we're at that point of his story arc where we're due for an insane run and for some legendary building block of a career type shit where we see a guy like break through

for lack of a better term and like solidify himself in history. It just all the vibes are there that we're going to. witness a Mavericks run and somehow they end up in the finals at the very least end up in the conference finals and it's again it's all vibes all like it feels like it's happening is nothing like nothing empirical

it just feels right to pick them listen we'll see yeah we'll see all this talk everybody's been waiting you have a squad are you going to go get the chip or not let's let's see what happens yep if if this Mavericks team

was a team to the start of the season meaning PJ Washington was there and Dante Exam has been hooping the entire season, all of this stuff and all the other new additions were there, I honestly would have put them in number two over the Boston Celsius, simply because they just don't have guys that fuck with Luca and Yolkits, of course, but they don't. Yeah. And the continuity still thing.

If the Dallas Mavers were just the whole year, we'd be talking about a very special season from them and Luca Donchish, like the winning rate they've had since All-Star break, we wouldn't be having an MVP debate. they were this good all year. Yeah. But they weren't so tough shit. Well, Luca,

you still are my MVP. I respect it. Again, I tweeted, we had, obviously, like I said, go watch a live stream.

We did the whole MVP debate and met our final award show. I was pro Yokic, so I kind of like argued against Luca. And like, really I was just arguing against his fans that act like it'll be a travesty if Yokich wins. Like,

Yokich isn't also having a great season as an all-time great. But I'll be so happy if Luca wins. Like, I don't care either way. Like, it would be great to see either of these guys have that moment. Nah. Just go get around.

That's all that matters. That's all that matters. It's just going to go get a chip. Mo, do you got to watch on? Uh. Oh my God. We're fucking late. It's TikTok time.

What the fuck? Holy shit. We've been waiting for this shit. For ages. This shit has been running on for too long. Fuck all this basketball talk. Let's get to the real shit. Let's go ahead and enjoy.

draft some shit let's put some shit into tearless let's talk about fucking logos let's go ahead and do this shit man that was so many questions in the 30 seconds span demonetize demonetize demonetize welcome to dick dot time today

we are starting with a draft once again took a couple weeks off but we're back and today we are drafting the best NBA line is possible with five NBA players that cannot shoot. Bricks on bricks on bricks. Nikiel wrote down the bricklayers draft. That's what it is.

If we're going to try to find a way to make NBA lineups with no spacing and see who can make a team that can somehow win games. Let's go. All right. So the draft order is Mo Donovan, me. I can tell us give me some questionable picks here. We'll have to argue about it in the moment. I went with players on my list that either don't shoot whatsoever, like a Ben Simmons,

like a Shaq, whatever. Or if they shoot a little bit because they like, you know, everybody's shoots a little bit they've never been good never been effective and are like clearly somebody would label a non-shooter for sure okay cool it all depends bro the goal of this is to fucking have brick layers bro let's see whose team can break the backboard as fast as possible dent the rim as fast as possible let's see which one of you guys slipped in some good mid-range shooters it's gonna happen all right you know mo who we got first pick first pick at point guard I have to go ahead and select Ben Simmons.

I ain't hitting shit, bro. From the free throw line, from the mid-range, especially from the three-point line. In terms of laying bricks, if you ask me to shoot, you're going to need a construction hat. Ben Simmons is a wild first pick, but you can't go wrong with the lack of shooting there. I love it, bro. Listen, we're going all time. And even though these guys can shoot, I still want to win games. So with my first pick, give me Shaquille O'Neal at my center.

Oh, okay. Yeah, listen. I love it. in the can't shoot Olympics Shaq is going to win if you're going to talk about missing the most shots possible Shaq's up there

no threes no middies no free throws nothing not a lick nothing damn first pick can I have young Magic Johnson

before he developed a shot excellent choice go ahead there we go magic Johnson who's second pick give me his running mate give me career Abdul Jabbar I see

okay okay listen he could hit sky hooks from like 18 feet out. So I'm going to take that as a jump shot. We're counting Skyhooks as a shot. I'm taking that as a jump shot. You might have floating a hand.

You're throwing the ball downwards. It's not a shot. Listen, the wrist flicks. So I don't know. The wrist flicks. There's a follow through. I don't know if I go through. I don't know if I go to us that.

But I'll let you have it. Let's see. At my three, give me. Actually, no. At my power forward. Give me somebody who used to shoot but can't shoot anymore. Give me Anthony Davis.

He still shoots midi, though. He's a high midi shooter now. Not one of the most efficient. Listen, nobody's calling Anthony Davis a non. Come on. Listen, when I think of non-shooters, I'm thinking about non-three-point shooters. So, and, yeah, so we'll put AD at the four. All I know is that Darwin Ham said, he will shoot six threes a game.

Nah. And everybody collectively looked around. I was like, nah, that's not going to happen. This pick is cheating, but I'll let you have it. Mo, who's next? Listen, if you don't want to get, give me Yonis. Now you can have that. Give me Yonis.

Give me the real non-shoiter. Swiper, no swiper. That's me. You can have AD, but the comments know you're cheating. It's fine. Yeah. Yannos is a super easy pick. Super non-shooter.

Next up, go ahead and give me André Drummond. I need a great bricklayer, bro. Interesting shooting form. Not a lot of people talk about it enough. Great role player still. Drummer is a center. Yeah, drummed at the five. Drummond at the five.

Okay. Still tough. All right. You listen, your team is, there's definitely no shooting on your team. I'll say that. Yeah, no shooting whatsoever. We're going to be banging elbows.

Everybody, literally. Okay. I need some perimeter defense. Give me. Assar Thompson at my three Wow You're definitely not shooting too Damn

You're shooting fucking Meteors bro God damn You're assault in the room Yes Felony Conviction Facts

All right next up You know what None of us can shoot I need some goddamn Rebounding to catch those bricks Give me Dennis Robbins been at the four okay that was a great pick elite pick I need all the rebounds I can get elite pick that's a great big not all I see elite pick a small forward give me Julius

Irvin okay you you have a talented non-shooter but then again what was his free throw percentage Isaac if I know I can tell you he came to the NBA was not shooting threes yeah that free throw that free throw percentage was not asked that's one thing I can say He has Anthony Davis don't want to hear it Keep going You're not letting that slide Can't let that slide You know what

We cannot go In a non-shooter's draft Without bringing one of the goats Of non-shooting Give me Andre Roberson at my two Fuck You stole my pick This might be the best non-shooter of all time

This man has a legit highlight tape of bricks we've never seen that. Damn. And not a bricks, air balls. This is a shout to Andre Robeson. Yeah. What a guy.

Hall of Fame stuff. Oh my goodness, bro. You stole my fucking pick. That's... Robeson and Asar is filthy criminal defense. We're locking people out. Oh, my God.

Yeah, now that is literally filthy. That is literally filthy. You know what? Okay. I'm going to put Janus at my three and give me Ben Wallace at my four. Oh, shit. Yeah.

This is the biggest hell. You want to play that game? Let's play that game. I'll show you some non-shooters. The rules are quickly changing. We're fucking playing jailball. We're punching each other. This is going to be crazy.

Exactly. I changed my ego in this bitch right now. All right. Okay. At my two, go ahead and give me a SARS brother am men. Let's play a family. Okay. Let's play a family.

Okay. I like that. I like that. So my one, I got Ben Simmons. And my two, I got Amin Thompson. three, Janice, four, Ben Wallace, and my five, Andre Drummond. Love it's the worst team I've ever seen. It's perfect. It's the worst team for sure.

All right. And any metric. Let's see, let's see. I don't know if this counts. We'll see how y'all feel about this, but I do need somebody to direct traffic. So give me Rajan Rondo as my point guard. Does that count? That's a great pick.

Does it count? Sure, you're going to have whatever. Go ahead. He shot 40% one year. I mean, point. When Rondo was at his best, he was not shooting. So I understand. He was not a real threat, bro.

They gave him the young Rondo was not hoisted. Yeah. Okay, we'll put that. We'll put young Rondo. Okay. Fair enough. You know, am I too? It would not be right for us to not have this guy on this team.

Give me Tony motherfucking out. I was thinking about that. I was thinking about Tien. I wanted to Tony Allen too. Give me Andre Roberson on horse steroids. Give me Andre Robeson with a crazy mentality. I need it. Oh my goodness.

He's saying, listen, Tony Allen's a great big. He shoot like he got crow bars for arms, bro. I love it. Andre Roberson versus Tony Allen one-on-one. Wow. That one-on-one will last 20 years. The ball would explode before somebody gets to 15th. It would go flat from all the blocks.

Facts. So my team, Young Magic Johnson, Tony Allen, Dr. J., Dennis Rodman, Camry Abdul-Jabbar My team Young Rondo Andre Robeson Asar Thompson Recent Anthony Davis

and Shaquille O'Neal A recent AD You're nasty for that Anyways My team is Ben Simmons Asar Thompson Yannis Did I say a sorry

My bad No you have a SAR I have a man right There we go Ben Simmons A men Thompson Janus Ben Wallace

And Andre Drumman That's crazy Non-shooters break layers. Let's do it. Elite draft. I agree. Great. I love it.

Next thing we're going to do, it's time for a tier list. If you guys saw Victim Women Yama had a logo revealed by Nike on the day of the lunar eclipse. And it's the hardest thing I've ever seen in my life. It's an alien logo. Very cool.

Obviously one of the better logos we have in the league today. So what we're going to do, we have 15 NBA logos of players who have a signature shoe with the company. So many logos. And we're going to put their logos in a tier list. So many logos. Let's go.

Let's go a lot. Let's go. It's going to be a long one. We'll go through it fast. First of all, so real simple, let's put these NBA player logos into a tier list. First of all, Jordan, obviously, S tier, right? S tier. It's the most iconic logo of logo history.

Let's put it in S. Yeah. Transcend sports. I agree. What about LeBron? Is his logo also an S tier? Not an S. I think it's probably an A.

it's a really good it's a really good logo but it just it's not like on its own it's as clunky brer powerful as as a generous too i think it might be a b i said a and then i wanted to be like brats really a b but it's lebron yeah what about lebron deserves a b he's an a plus everything we're going to be we'll go b okay yeah it's cool but there's better on this list the better or maybe maybe what do we do with victim woman yama is he s tier is he a tier i'm gonna go a tier i don't think it's as good as the as the jordan ones is because i don't know how many people want to be rocking an alien on their on their body like that yeah but listen this is really freaking hard so yeah i'm gonna go ahead in terms of who he is as a player it matches up extremely

well and it perfectly depicts a victor wambayama but yeah like wearability wearing i can't wear like a victor when miyama jack with an alien on it looks kind of corny but on shoes it represents him perfectly i don't put it in a day you can't now give us some time we're all going to walk around with aliens i promise i will not be inducted i'm gonna don't count said inducted yeah i said i'm cool with a tier we're we do with shack the iconic shack shoes the logo's hard the logo's fire i'm gonna i'm gonna go a the shoes is it listen the shoes different story but when you see that even if you took away the name you know exactly who that is that's that's diesel really yeah yeah it's so hard for me to separate it from the shoes and i know

what this logo belongs to i'll go i'm fine with a or b where you want to go mo don't hate me personally i would say c what like it's not it's not any lower than that it's not a special logo now i understand you're not a special logo like oh four If I had a logo, it would be harder than that for sure. But it would not like, it's just, it's not special. You didn't rock shacks for real. You did it. You did it rock shacks for real.

That's why. That's why you're putting that seat. The logo has no place in culture. We can go see. Exactly. It's not. No place in culture. It wasn't special then, not special now.

You guys are underrating shacks. All right. What do we do is Steph Curry's logo? This little scribble. We, this shit is. We put that in that. I'm, listen, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Steph.

I have no idea what this is Yeah What is? I can try to justify I'm like listen The S goes into the C It has the flow It has the smoothness

Of Steph Curry's game It looks like a different language bro That's what it is It looks like something else to me It looks like you're in therapy And they throw a bunch of ink on here And like what do you see in this That's what it looks like

I'm trying to find some inner demons Via Steph Curry I see a trash logo And that sucks Bro yeah This logo looks like it's at the front of like a fucking, I don't know, some type of ballet dance

dance area, bro. It just doesn't look like basketball or anything like that. It doesn't look like anything. It looks like literally nothing. Yeah. What do we do with Kevin Durant, the iconic KD? That's hard. I'm going to give her a solid B. It's pretty good. Solid B.

What? B? Do you think it's an A? I think I'd agree with that. I think it's a name. It's just two letters. Like. Yeah, it's two letters, but they're bubbly, though. What do you mean? But they're bubbly.

They're round out. No, that reason alone is stupid. I all agree with Donovan in a beat here just that reason sucks. Oh, you guys don't know. Tell me you guys, you guys are screaming.

I mean, you guys never wanted to pair of Katie anything. No, I had Katie sentence. All right. Cap. Here it is. What do we do with Lanzo ball, Z-O-2?

Big ball of brand. Never lost. They don't. Undefeated. Undefeated. Now, the shoes, once again, suck. They probably made his knees, you know, turn into dust. But this logo's hard.

Put it in S-tier. Okay, you need to relax. Big Ball of Brand is never lost. S-tier? Big Ball of Brin is never lost. We don't disrespect Lovar Ball's legacy. Bro, they're not going to sign you if you say this. You know that, right?

They're not sponsoring the show. They don't have any money left. You're just making yourself look bad. Guys, I'm trying to work on something here. Put it in S-tier. Shake it ass for Lovar Ball. Get out on my face. in 2024 get a grip

that's a shame I don't understand his pull LeVar Ball knows people Oh you're in wait I think I think it deserves to be in C bro To be honest stop don't disrespect Zoh like that Why are you doing this?

It's not on the same tier as LeBron It is It's pretty cool That looks like a Pokemon logo bro What are we doing here? And Pokemon is one of the most famous games in the world name five Pokemon right now

I don't play it but I know other people do Exactly what are we talking about Don't use Pokemon Blastoise You got Pikachu You got squirtle

Um Muteu Evie Thank you That's five So what's good All right you got it Be it is

Venusaur I can go for days Oh my god You can't You're a real Pokemon kid Girls Now we're going with Derek Rose

That's hard my bn s that's hard that's hard the d and the rose diffusing oh my god that's ill as fuck bro it's a shame his brand died after 2013 because this is a good logo that should have went places this shit is an s bro I'm sorry

one of the hardest logos out one of Adidas best job is it better than wemby I think it might be a no it's better than wembe's for sure easy better is it yeah all right whatever Carmelo anthony no no don't do this to me

Because this You know that This logo sucks? I hate it I hate this logo So much It looks like that S

It's like What is this? It's such It just literally Look at her ass logo It literally looks like An alternate logo For Monster

It's so bad It's a monster It looks like a logo It's I was so upset See this for years It's F It's either DRAF

It's a logo It's a logo for white boys I listen to Eminem On and M&M Headphones Listen We're in White Boys

Hops and Fancy Fancy Fancy Love this logo And them white boys And then you're writing Lopsin fans is crazy Oh So tech nine's wearing this

On his chest every day You don't think Joyna Lucas Has eight pairs of mellows In his closet Right now Come on D tier

Yeah this is D Looks like a fucking Motorbite gang tattoo or some shit And what about Dwayne Wade? It has to be a C because, like, I like it, I like it,

but I don't know that this. There might be an F. I don't know that this is Dwayne Wade's from his logo. And I feel like you should know. It looks like, it looks like stance, the socks. It looks like nothing. It looks like nothing. It looks like my favorite boba place, bro,

across the street. Like, it looks like nothing. What am I looking at right now? It does look like a boba shop. It looks like it serves some fire eateries. What does that have to do with basketball? Dude, that looks like a boba company. That looks like a little teas of assorted varieties.

That's hilarious. Exactly. Tears or candles, bro. Candles, yes Yeah Candles may be more than over This is a company

that curates vibes That's amazing Oh god All right Anthropology has logo That's hysterical All right What about Alan Iverson

Okay I'm trying to think This is Is it like an A Is it B I think this is a cool logo I like it It's fine

It's cool It's not bad But it's definitely not A So B I think the shoes are great, but the logo itself is just fine. I lean C. I'd lean towards C2 when it comes to this logo. It's just so mass.

Same area as Shaq. It's just like, well. Inoffensive, not bad. It's not horrible by any means, but not great. All right. Yeah, I agree. Chris Paul, the big CP. Listen, put him with his banana boat brother, Indie.

What? This shit is dog water. That shit is terrible. I'm not doing this. Dog water. It's not great. It's not great. Just zero creativity of any sorts.

Zero smoothness, classic looks, something you can put on clothes, nothing of that sort. Do you not good on shoes? No character. Nothing. You don't see the C, P, and then in between in the middle of that's the three.

That doesn't. I see what they want to do. But I also see a very, very suboptimal logo. Put this in D. You don't need to do too much. You guys don't appreciate real art. If I showed this to 100 random NBA fans of random ages, maybe 15 will know was Chris Paul's logo.

Maybe. You know, that's not a fair assessment. But that shouldn't have. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, F is a bit much. Can we go, D? All right, D is. Okay. There we go.

See, you hate. The way of Wade logo is cool with this, but I'll, I'll live it, let it live. Paul George. This is a good logo. It's a cool logo. I don't want to hate, uh, Um, but I do detier. What?

Kind of a PlayStation logo. I was going to say Xbox logo, but we're right here. Exactly. All I know is that this feels more like video games than basketball. So drop it down. I agree. Yeah, this feels like a, this feels like a cryptocurrency company that came into disrupt the industry and quickly crashed. Thanks.

Looks like it is a tech company that was more money laundering. Facts. That's good. Yeah. So what, D? Yeah, I'm with it. Okay, I bet. Okay, whatever.

I'm out voting like a mug. Nicole Yokic Let's talk This is just biting LeBron's logo I kind of want to put this in A This logo is hard Nah, you can't put it Just a better version of LeBron's logo

Okay cool So LeBron is in B Better version gets A Thank you. Oh my God That's just how it works Listen I was thinking B But Mo you just sold us on A It's gotta be A

You inadvertently made an argument for A It's not Creative That's the thing I've seen this before I knew what you were doing. You see the end, the J, you see the 15, all in one with the Joker hat. This is what logos are supposed to look like. Encapsulate everything.

It's A. All right. I was thinking B, but I'm fine with A. Kobe Bryant. Put that in S tier. S. Yes. I don't know what it is actually, but it's cool as fuck.

Exactly. Exactly. It looks like sort of like Halo emblem. No idea what it means, but it's a vibe. It's a pure vibe, bro. It looks like a... Could be the move. It feels like

could be the move. What is it though? Was it a snake or is it just simply a cool shape? I think it's a snake. A mamba, probably. I look real hard. I can almost see it. I still don't, but I'll pretend I do.

There you go. It doesn't matter. If you see it or not, it's a S-tier logo. It doesn't matter. It's provocative. Exactly. Keeps the people going.

Another perfect tier. How do we keep doing this? There we go. I think it's really hard. I feel like other people do cheerless and they mess up, but like we just don't. You know? Kind of hard. Next thing we got, Mo, I was told that you decided in your free time to rank the top 10 point guards in the NBA and you want to share it with us.

Yes, this is a very, very nasty discussion because the point guard position is the hardest position to rank because it's the deepest position to rank. So I'm going to go ahead and sit down. For the sake of engagements, if you're wrong. I think we're obligated to cook you Really? I agree I think we have to fry you if you're wrong So I think we have to give you the reaction that you don't want You know what? Let me know how you feel as I read each of them off all right

All right so you guys on me you start from 10 up yeah or one down 10 up 10 up All right here we go these are our top 10 point guards in the NBA Okay number 10 Demal Murray number nine Deeran Fox okay and number eight Damien Lillard At number one Dame fell to eight You got slow down Dame fell to eight

Yeah Yeah I'll see who you put above him But that feels crazy He's not lower He hasn't been playing like Dame He's not lower Okay That's kind of crazy

Okay Okay I don't know I feel about Dame right now Given his team situation But I'll keep going The efficiency's not there man The official's not there

Defense has always been trash He is not Damy Lur from the past It also it also sucks that he hates playing with his other star player. Because when Yannis isn't there, he's like, oh my gosh, I can be me. I can score 30 points every single night. And then when Yannis is there, he's like, bro, who is this guy taking all the shots?

Why is he here? Yeah. Does it not a fit. Seven, Trey Young, six. Okay. Tyrese Halliburton. Five. Tyrese has six?

Yeah. Five, well, I think. Who's at five? Jalen Brunson. He's a. truther and I'm with it. You're here. He has been a top 15 player in the league this year.

He has been incredible. I support it. You see division. There we go. After Jalen Brunson, four. John Morant has been healthy, but can't forget what he looks like when he is healthy. You're doing good. You're doing good.

You're doing good. Number three, SGA. Number two, Curry and one Luca. Was that the perfect list? No reaction? You know what? I'm rocking with it. I think that's the right top three.

I personally went Shea over Curry, but I respect it if you still want to give Curry the nod. I think it's the time's coming for Shea to elevate, but Luca's won by far. There you go. Yeah, I'm good. I'm good with that. I'm good with that.

Jamal Murray at 10 feels right. And, um, okay, I'm okay with it. Yeah, I think you got to, you might want to move Dame down a little bit, especially going into next season. Wow. But I'm, I'm okay with that. Are we sure Jamal Murray is better than Tyrese maxi?

Ooh. See, that's a conversation. He's in the same exact world as fucking Jimmy Buller. You only rank him based because of what he does in the playoffs. Or regular season, snoring. So who were your first cuts on this? My first cuts would be Tyrese magazine. He was the very first one.

Okay. Okay. Very first one. I see that. All right, good list. Good list. I also a mellow ball, too, but he doesn't. the fucking claim. Oh, no, he's not tapped it.

He's not tapped him. Good list. You survive slander today. Nothing's too crazy. I respect it. Good job. Woo! Crown eaters, here we go. We on a fucking roll. You live to rank another day. There we go. Next thing we're going to do,

let's talk about Mount Rushmore's. It's a new series I want to start where we basically pick the four greatest of all time of a different category and make our MBA Mount Rushmore of a topic. And today, I want us to make the NBA Mount Rushmore for the greatest teams of all time. Okay, okay.

You can talk about that whether it's just who's the best, just who's, you know, you can, whatever you want to count into that, whether it be influence, how they stagnant with other competition, whatever may be. Let's make the Mount Rushmore

of the greatest NBA teams of all time. First of all, who's on there? Who's the locks on the team? Okay, locks is 96 Bulls. And then immediately, 2017 or 2018 Warriors. 17 wars. Exactly.

17. teams that have to be there yeah yeah the first year they had kd the defense was clicking kd was playing out of his my energy on both ends those two teams are undeniable yes i would go those two do we go oh one lakers after that i would argue i would argue i would argue showtime lakers with magic kareem jamesworthy and byron sky can we only have one yes i think we should have two like really yes because there's a lot of teams out there if we have to pick one Listen, the three-pete is a three-peat. That's pretty impressed.

Not many teams have done that. I mean, but... Best duo of all time. Listen, I think we should have more than... I get that. Technically, that's the back-to-back one. And the Showtime team also went back-to-back. So, like, we can do that as well.

I mean, I just want to know... I guess, let's end with that. Let's figure out who the third team is, right? Do we want to go with, like, the 86 Celtics? does that I was thinking I was thinking bird self except to be there yeah wow

so I think that's the third one and so I guess now now we're right back to where we were five seconds ago this is hard I mean what we're thinking because I'm stuck

a three pete is tough man a three p is tough to deny I'm not going to lie to you who do you think we win a series if those two teams face each other shit gun to my head maybe showtime

I'm my I think I would go damn that's tough that's tough that's such a hard question what I think about the match this will decide it if I say

greatest Lakers team of all time what pops in your head first show time I think about I think about the oh one team oh my god

that didn't help either I mean I mean but here's the thing right so like we have magic ranked above Kobe

we have Kareem ranked above shack and that and the showtime team has another hall of famer on it on top of the all right all right all right showtime it is listen you can't deny two top five players of all time on the team some people would say it's the same thing for the oh one lakers but we can go showtime okay so so last spot 86 Celtics or oh one lakers we kind of have to go 86 Celtics I feel like it would be wrong LeBron doesn't have a team on here what the hell man now man listen

I wish he was drafted next other Hall of Famers too I wish he had a Scotty Pippin too Wasn't so lucky You act like he wasn't paired With two Hall of Famers in Miami You want to put Miami on there? No I'm just

I just say don't act like You didn't have the opportunity No no no but it's different when you're drafted to them Because you have a much better chance Of team building with depth around them When you can nationally build that way If you go through free agency You're not going to have depth there you know

Yeah Nah that's a real nerdy And also they went when Dee Wade's knees Fell apart two years later So that's a little difference They had opportunity They had opportunities to 3P, even with his knees being bad. I don't want to hear it.

They did. Well, we're not talking about kid. They three p. We're talking about could they be single season, grating in all time? And it's hard to do when you're building through the free agency like that. Nah, LeBron,

I hate yours. So are we, have you cool with this? Are we cool with the top four NBA teams of all time on Mount Rushmore, being the 2017 Warriors, 96 Bulls, and then Showtime Lakers and Bird Celtics? I'm okay with it.

I'm fine with it. It's locking in. I feel confident. No, no, no, Will Russell Celtics in there? No, sorry. Can't do it. Yeah, exactly.

I can do it. Mad respect, Bill. Yeah. All right, there we go. Next thing we're going to do, we're going to run back a jersey TikTok. It's the only we did in the past.

We started a series of giving every single NBA teams greatest jersey of all time. We went through, I think, about 10 teams last time. I got eight more for you today. So real simple, you guys know how it works.

I'm going to tell you an NBA franchise's name. You tell me the best jersey they've ever had in franchise history. Talk to me. Let's do it. First off, we're going to start with

the Oklahoma City Thunder. See, okay, so this is hard because I feel like their jerseys are very polarizing and not a lot of people like their jerseys. My favorite, they had a baby blue one with Paul George and Russell Westbrook.

I really, really like that one. I think that that might be one of the best jerseys but also this navy blue with the little off center okay C that's a that's a top container dude I ain't gonna lie that baby one that original baby boom

that you were talking about was fucking ass it was discussed like a failed superhero it looked like what's that what's that superhero superhero movie Beetle that shit was trash Blue Beetle I really liked it I thought it was cool that or that movie

no the jersey the jersey there was also one they have a navy blue like an all navy blue one with just and it just says thunder on the like on the side that one that one's fire that one's hard that was a nine to five ass jersey i fuck with that one too you all are sleeping on the fact that they had an all white jersey with silver lettering on yeah that one sucked what that was that was awful that was we're so that was such that was such a boring jersey it was not good good. I mean, fuck the under jersey. There my. I hate this team. Next up.

The Brooklyn Nets. Eight of them look the exact same. I'm not going to lie. Over the last six years, the Nets might have the best jersey in the league. Their throwbacks have been impeccable. That white one with the red and blue on the side and the stars to throw back to Dr. J.

That was an incredible jersey. You've seen Kyrie and Katie wear that beautiful. Hard. Okay. Now we're talking. My top three right now. that I want you guys to pick from that white throwback one that Isaac was just talking about listen the blue one with the um the blue light gradient one that they wore as the throwback

that one and it's hard the black uh the black biggie small jersey that they had oh i forgot about that one the deal of city jersey that one was crazy that that was that's one of the best jerseys that they've ever had that's that that's that's behind the best jerseys of all that's might be pound for pound the best jersey team they are crazy But at the same time, they, I'm going to listen, they did have that stupid Boscaj jersey a couple years ago. That was stupid. People like those. The kids like them.

So, don't care what they like. That was disgusting. They don't know nothing. No, I'm going to go to the white one, though. The white one is too clean. It's timeless. It is. I can rock with that. Okay, cool.

Let's do it. Yeah, I see, I see that jersey. And I can just see Dr. Jay in an Afro. It's fucking aura. Ozing. All right, next team. The Toronto Raptors Now listen

I know the answer Is the purple one with the dinosaur What's the second best And why is it the OVO jerseys And why is it the OVO jerseys The black ones are so tough Just say that Drake's your favorite artist Just say that

I'm wearing a Kenjic Lamar necklace right now You know he's not my favorite artist Oh okay You choose it now, okay I got the eye around my neck every day Not going to have The O'Neill jersey is pretty nice They aren't

Yeah they're They're as a bitch I can't lie They're clean as a bitch I would be very happy To be their full-time colors game Nah They need to go back to being purple

That's either one Pick one of the directions They were good Not the one you have now One with the purple Baby Raptors Let's do it Block it in

Next team The Miami Heat the all pink city jerseys the hot pink city jerseys back in 2019 hard as fuck very I think the white ones like the white hot ones really the white the white the white Miami vice ones are really tough I do I do like I do like those I like the white Miami vice ones this little like 90s one with the drop shadow that's very cool and I'm a bit I'm a hard it is cool you can't sleep on the That yellow city one was so weird.

That is like the Indiana Pacer's jersey. They just got bored and they just looked over the next door neighbor, but. What about the all black one, LeBron War? Oh, the blacked out ones? That shit was menacing. Peak super villain Jersey, bro. That fitted LeBron so well. I sound like I'm talking about LeBron instead of the jersey, but you know what I mean.

A bit of sprinkling some glaze. I'm cool with either Miami Vice or the black one from LeBron era. I'll go I'll go with the with the Miami Vice because I legitimately could see that being like a permanent rebrand for the Miami Heat yeah I honestly pick whichever color you want as long as it's not the gradient one any of the solid colors ones that could be the greatest jersey of all time I agree thanks next team the Milwaukee bucks listen a very underrated team when it comes to all time jerseys yeah very who where we where are we going because this Ray Allen one is is very tough I like this a lot It's tough So there's the one with the big buck on it

The one that the buck That Mo was sexually attracted to That one time on the TikTok Oh that is true It's actually attracted to Stop spreading lies on my name The boy with the big buck Hard as fuck

Listen They've had some good city jersees As of late Are we going with Cream City? Of course we are You know who I am? Cream City me No I'm kidding

But I really really like the blue one they had that had like the green and white like little like yeah tiles on the side that was that was cool it's not the best one in franchise history probably not but the best one is the one with the buck on it yeah i agree honestly all the jerseys that have been pretty good they don't miss i mean they they they put out a cream city jersey was that not hard it wasn't you're not a fan it wasn't you don't frequent cream town all right bro what's the next team you're not a cream what's the next team

the Dallas Mavericks they need a rebrand back to this shit I'm sorry man what they have right now this isn't even good this looks like a fucking middle school team what this is not good this is way better than what they have right now that white one that white one on the edge

with the blue lettering and the green that's the best one that one's great yeah they are one of the weaker jersey teams in all time but I'm cool with going with that white one I'm fine with that one one that genuinely is the best out of the other ones for sure

It's just tough because they've got no modern options That are good All their modern stuff is terrible They have nothing They have the regular basic jerseys And a bunch of misses On their city jerseys No design in Dallas

Who the hell's buying Dallas Mavericks jerseys bro Sorry for Dallas Mavericks fans So bad All right next team The Orlando Magic Another one of the Strongs jersey Teams of all time

That black pinstripes, that's where it's at. That, that's where it's. I got that jersey in my closet. That shit is tough. And I don't even care about the magic. That black, any one of those colors, the black, the blue or the white with the pinstripes, any one of those is the best jersey in that team's history. I agree. Beautiful.

And the 90s cuts, the big letters on it, the bold outlines. It was perfect. But I do enjoy that jersey that T-Mack has on him as well. Very underrated. Yeah. it's real ball what do you mean no i mean you don't respect the stars i have a very

like crayon either view when it comes to jerseys it's it's okay i'm not wrong it is fire what do you mean no it's cool it's cool it's all right the magic pops really well you don't respect i think the blue is a little bit too dull if the blue is a little bit more saturated and vivid

maybe i'd like it more things are ugly shade of blue i'm sorry get get into your bag let them know let him know you do this design by passion come on all right next team

the Boston Celtics I mean listen they've had like three jerseys their entire I know I know they've been the same forever but they got some alternates and the answer is that fucking Christmas

I mean to say without cussing I can be cause away too much in TikToks yeah the answer is that Christmas jersey that Isaiah Thomas was wearing with the cream font on the sides beautiful

listen Isaiah Thomas they might have forgotten your legacy not me not us we know what you did for that city and you put yeah I know you played in Christmas that one time with the cool jersey I was exactly I watched it that jersey's fire I'm with you man I mean it's it's solid it's all right Isaac your track record is looking real suss man you are a cream man to the core and that's what it is that's sure off white is a beautiful color in fashion Oh, yeah. I know you love that. That was so weird. You made it weird.

Anything where you should replace white with the tan of some sort of cream like that, immediately makes it hard. Oh, really? Tell me more. All right, man. All right. Oh, God. Next up. I think it's the last one. one of the next freaking video what do you want to do next

okay next thing we're going to do I'm going to give you guys two NBA teams and you guys have to make the best starting lineup possible combining their two lineups so basically you're going to go through each position and pick who wins that position you know point guard versus point guard shooting guard

versus shooting guard etc tell me more it's current it doesn't matter it just a mixture but I'm going to give you two teams it'll be specified for you cool so real simple

Let's make the best combined starting five out of these two teams First up We got the 2016 Golden State Warriors And the 2024 Boston Celtics I was 2016 Warriors Just replace Harrison Barnes The center Oh

Yeah Oh whoa whoa I mean Both of them fuck it Both of them let's do it No no no no no no Okay so point guard Lee Bogie

Point guard Robbins is going Steph Curry Yes Point guard Rondo for sure Clay has started as well. Jason Taylor, I'm sorry. You just said Rondo? I said Rondo, my bad. Steph is starting. Yes. Clay is starting

as well. Are you sure Clay starting over this year's Jalen Brown? Yes. He's starting over Jalen Brown. One of the greatest years of all time in his time. I had to ask. I agree. I had to ask. Yeah. Jason Taylor 3. Easy. Okay. Dremont has has to play. He has to. Oh, I forgot. Wait, no, no, no, no.

Makes us all up. Two is Derek White, so he's not starting over Clay. Three. What? is Jalem Brown versus Harrison Barnes. We're going to Jailen Brown? Yeah, for sure. Okay. Ah, okay. I guess.

I see how you're playing this, yeah. You go position by position. Okay. Okay, gotcha. Power forward. Dreybong Green or Jason Tatum? We're going. That's gross.

We're going, Draymond Green. Over Jason Tatum? Yes, you have, listen, the 2016 Warriors is the better team. we are revolving or we are putting people based on how they play not based on how this Celtics team to play so draymond has to be there it's so hard because it's like do you want a more talented player or the better fit with step currie i want the better fit with step curry because he's the best player yeah exactly it's so hard because jason tatum is galaxy's better like it's i'm sorry fam jason not on defense he's a great defender but he's not better than draymond

point bank period and then also what draymond does for step offensively it's invaluable no but tatum cannot do that jason tatum cannot set moving screens the way that draymond green does he's not he's not doing it he is not past protecting for step kerry the way that draymond is put dray in that lineup he's definitely not dick kicking the way draymond wasn't 2016 nobody has steps back like draymond you can't find that kind of connection everywhere It's one to one. It's special. Center, Christophers were Zing is starting?

Yeah. Give Andrew Boggi his respect. Now, I'm playing. It's, it's Christoph. Dude, if you gave the freaking, if you gave the 2016 Warriors, Jailen Brown and Christophs, they would never lose a game. Wow. It'll be over.

They would quite literally win, like, 78 games. All right, next team. This match up we got. Oh, it's not loading. Okay. The 2012 Thunder or the 20204 Thunder. Oh, this is sad. Come on.

Point guard. Do we go young Russ or do we go Shea? 25-year-old Shay has to go ahead and start. Or is he 26th? Shea has to start. Has to? Yeah. This is an MVP rest.

This is younger Russ. Come on, guys. Come on. She's been top of MVP voting. Was Russ that year? No, he wasn't. And this was. It's Russ.

I don't know. Oh, my God. You don't know how good Russ and Westbrook was. You don't know what I did. What do we go with, Donovan? You decide. I'm torn. We'll go with Shea.

Torn. Oh, Shee, okay. Shooting guard. Who started? James Hardin was. Let's assume James Hardin started. No, no. No, we can't do that.

James Hardin was coming off the bench. Put Jalen Williams in there. Okay. That's what I'm saying. to be consistent. No, Jaylen Lewis has higher forward. Oh, true. So shooting guard is, I guess, Josh Giddy?

I don't know who started. Who's two and three between him? Tabo Cephalosa was, oh, wait, hold on. Yeah. Who's to start shooting guard again? For them, it's a giddy. For O'KC right now, it's a giddy. But back then wasn't, I believe it was Tabo Sefalocia.

He wouldn't, no, he wasn't the two, was he? Tabo? Yeah, he was. Tabo was the two Tabo was the two Tabo was Russ Tabo Kady Ibaka and Okay you're right

You're right It was Tavo okay Cool At the two Do you go Cephalosha Or Josh Giddy Listen Cepalosa

Give me I need some defense Give me Tavo Okay we go with the size Actually Josh Gattie just installed All right At the three Kevin Durant

Or Lou Dort I don't know I mean listen Lutz been hooping this year Right His shooting, his defense. I love the three-point shot progression. I know.

I can promise you Ludo bench presses more than Kevin Durant. We need some strength on our team. He can do more pull-ups. I can promise you. All right. Let's go ahead and pick up Kevin Durant. Yeah, I agree. Sergei Baca or Jaylon Williams.

They used to call him Sergei Blaka with the way he was sending shit left in right back then. You said that with so much passion Yeah, because I was passionate About my Congo King, man No, that's got to be racist If I said it would be racist Moken said it You know what

I have a feeling I know who I want to go with at the five So give Because here's the thing You got to pick the four And the five together I don't feel like

Like we can split up So if we take Sergei Bacca... I assume we're picking Abe Lincoln over Kendrick Perkins. Chet Hong went to five. Sergei Baca and Chet together is pretty ridiculous. That's dangerous, bro. But this was Chet... I mean, this was Sergeh before he developed that three-point shot at that time.

He didn't have a three on him at all. Hey, let Chet space the floor. It'll be fine. All right. Give me Serge Baca. I'm sorry, J-Dubb, I love you, but we got to go Sergio Baca. Oh, man, that's tough. This hurts. I think you guys folded on that one. This hurts

So be The defense is crazy But still Exactly Ruins ridiculous You're on She's game though That's what it is

He needs spacing He has Kevin Durant And Chet Hung So So he needs optimal spacing He needs everyone Out of the fucking

spacing Well listen He has all stars Like he's gonna be okay He's gonna be okay He's gonna be fine He's gonna be fun The 2011 Dallas Mavericks

And the 2021 bucks Um All right so at point guard Jason Kidd or Drew Holiday Jason Kidd Oh it's an old man Jason Kidd Are you sure? I want Jason Kidd

Drew Holiday was so inconsistent back then Wait I want Defensively he was not I want Donovan Real quick This matters a lot Are we gonna have Janus or

No no no no Is it play the goal position my position Don't don't cheat I know but we have to like make No you play the game I want Jason kid Okay Fucking you're passionate about it

You can have Jason kid Thank you Shooting Guard Jason Terry or Dante DiVincenzo I'll take the Jay I'll take Jason Terry You don't want Dante This is before Dante was a Nick

I'll take Jason I'll take the jet Dante was hurt hell of for this year bro he wasn't playing like that okay small forward who's a small forward again it was a Sean Stevenson

Marion oh yeah where Sean Marion shout out Sean Marion shout out Sean Marion or Chris Middleton Chris oh wait hold on

keep it mind Chris Middleton was Nashville Chris was hooping Chris's hooping Chris's who he did drop 40 in the finals yeah give me Chris Middleton fair enough Janice or

Dirk Novitsky the spacing is going to be nasty bro because you already picked Jason kid if we pick Yonis I understand that Dirk looked the big three in the eye and said it's just big me I'm taking Dirk Novitsky

Yonis had 50 points in a closeout game Dirk came back from 20 and and beat LeBron I think I might take dirt. Honest is a D.P. O.Y. too, though. That's okay. We're going to have defense on the back in.

We're going to take Brick-Low. We're either going to have Tyson-Channel or Brooke Lopez. It's going to be okay. Give me Dirk. Give me some shooting. Where are you going, Mo? I'd rather have Yonis. Yonis, it is. Bricks. I actually have Bricks. I don't have Yonis, but having Jason Kidd there makes it tough. I'll go jerk. Fuck it.

Let's go. Dirk's a better fit. At the five. Brooke Lopez or Tyson challenge? Give me Tyson. I mean, give me Brooke Lopez. Yeah.

Hey, we got spacing. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. The spacing is. Jason Terry. Jason Terry, Chris Milton, Dirk and Brooke Lopez?

With Jason Kidd operating? Guys, you got to let me, you got to let me build these teams. The team is. I have visions. Premonitions. All right, next up. The 2023 Nuggets and the 2014 spurs.

Point guard, Tony Parker or Jamal Murray. This is tough. This is tough. Tony Parker was out here. Jamal. Yeah, but Jamal Murray's one of the greatest playoff rises of all time. He average is like 25, 26 a game, bro. I mean, but Tony Parker is the finals MVP.

He wasn't at this point, at this moment, though. he was on the wash more wash side of things so I think I might lean he was out here hitting games last all-star season he was out here hitting game winners in the finals just a year before no Tony Parker was his last all-star season so he was still really good I don't know very good I'll take Jamal Murray I feel sacri religious but okay we can take tomorrow I know I just want some shooting shooting guard Danny Green or KCP who same player it's different Literally same players.

This is different. This is prime Mohawk, Danny Green. Like, this is, this is when, oh, this is people. I don't know if you mean that a good way or bad way, but I don't want a mohawk on my team. Give me KCP. All right, cool. That's a fair reason. So I get it.

Yeah. Michael Porter Jr. or Kauai Leonard? Kauai. What the hell? Yeah. Kauai at this age. Give me Kauai at any age, bro.

I'm taking him over MPJ, Indy Day. There we go. Kaui Leonard. Finals MVP. Power forward. Boris Dio or Aaron Gordon? Boris Dio or Aaron Gordon. Let's see.

Two very different players. Very different. Essential pieces to their team in similar ways. Listen, I love Boris Dio. I love a good passing big man. I think I got to go Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon can't shoot a lick, bro, and he don't have the finesse of Boris Dio. No, he can shoot a lick.

He can't shoot a whole lot, but he can at least shoot a lick. Nah. No, you're giving him too much of a great defender. He can't shoot a lick. Oh, y'all are hating. I've seen him make some corner threes. Mm-mm. I think the only time...

Listen, he can hit corner three is when you're controlling him on 2K. Not really in real life. Should we go, Boris Dio? We everybody likes... Come on. Everybody likes to pass him big man. He's so fun, too. We're going to have another one down low.

I don't know if we need Boris Dio to be doing it. So why can't we just double up on the everybody passes? That's how the Spurs Win the championship This is the beautiful game Spurs This pass, pass, pass But Boris Dio You're the powerful

No, no, no, no, no, no no Boris Dio wasn't shooting like that Also, you did shoot more But I value Aaron Gorda's defense Boers Day out with the LeBron's Aaron Gordon, you continue on Let's do it Donovan eat shit

At center We got 2014 Tim Duncan versus 2023 Nikoli Okitch Where are we going? Guys, damn This is old man Duncan he we have to go yokech oh man duncan was still fucking the best big man defender at that time i understand but he wasn't the MVP of the league we we need to go with nicoly yokech

hey you won't hear me arguing if anybody was going to give yokitch problems that's this man fucking right here tim duncan 2003 tim duncan listen we have a legit conversation different story we can talk 11 years later i don't I don't know. Yep. Nicole Yolkis. It is you. It's Yolkits. Damn. I've got two more with me through these. Next one. The 2020 Lakers and the 2019 Raptors. 20 20 20. Point guards. Rondo or Kyle Lowry. Take you man's. Lorry. Take your man's. There you go. Give me all that girth. Shooting guard. God. Do we go? Did Norm how? Why am I? A friend of Lee started, right? Yeah. yes Fred Van Vleet or KCP give me KCP well actually actually listen Fred van Vee was

a father give me post give me post baby Fred van Vleet because he was going crazy part of Fred van Vleet was unfuck with the bull oh my goodness can stop him do it for the baby he was out here showing his showing his child a good example of what a winner looks like yeah small forward 2020 LeBron Our 2019 Kauai. LeBron. This is tough. No, it's not. Give me LeBron James.

Get out of my face. It is tough. What do you mean? 2019, Cori was special. Yeah, 2020 LeBron James is LeBron James, who hasn't lost a step yet and is having the best defensive season

of his career, leading the league and assist. Watch the best defensive. He's having a great defensive season. Led the league and assist. This is not a conversation. It's a conversation. Wait, word? He led the league and assist in 20?

Yeah, he was a point guard full time that year. Oh, that's crazy. I forgot about that. This is versus LeBron is filthy. I forgot about that. Yeah, he averaged like 10 and 11 assists. It was crazy. Frank Vogel had him defending his ass off to.

That's LeBron James. And they escape go to that man. Power forward. Anthony Davis or Pascal Seacom? Pascal Seacom. Ad me all day. It's hard to Pascal, but God damn. Yeah, I'll take AD.

Obviously AD. Mark Gassal or Javelle McGee? Javelle McGee. I'll take Marcissau They traded away Jonas Valentinus for a reason that year And leveled up so tremendously Because of Marcusal

So give me Mark Mark. Markisal is so awesome, man I agree Shut out Mark It's a fucking shame that the Lakers scapegoated To bring on to Drummond into the building I'll never figure of them for that They made Marka Saul look like he was a telitope

Now maybe he did look like a little bit physically But still it was so good man They replaced him with Andre Why are you got to say that? that man did nothing to you and you called him a tennis was a great player i was there at his jersey retirement i'm on i'm the number one marcos off when you were you were just in memphis yeah i'm lying i was completely made at that scenario that's crazy i was about to say i was like dang i need a jersey for sure i would get i was like i thought we were friends i didn't know you were

in memphis that's crazy that's crazy right next up the 2024 clippers and the 2021 sons they all suck we'll have to do this I don't want none of them that's hilarious all right guess we're not gonna talk about it trade them all he's a how we go bum on bum yeah there you go I got one TikTok left this video doesn't be real simple we did this last week with Mo and this time I'm on the hot seat you two are gonna think of a category you I'm sure you already communicate with each other. You guys are going to name random players

until I can guess what the category is. You ready? If you guys saw it last week, L was in the blender. I was in now. I'm returning to favor. Yeah, we had you in Guantanamo.

Let's see if you can get me. All right. Let's go. I'm ready. I'll start. I'll start. I'll wait. My back.

Go with the hook. All right. The hook is. Guess what category this NBA player is in? All right. Go ahead. All right First up

Jay Crowder Players of dreads Nicole Iokic Not not players are good Jimmy Butler Steph Curry Okay I was thinking second round picks

And now that is out the door Hmm It's not champions Javelle McGee Lebron James Okay Jalen Brown Was this NBA players

That I made the finals You're getting you're kind of there Kind of there Right You're on the you're on the right track I see the tracks being late Robert Williams He's also made the finals okay

Hmm okay there we go Name players. Okay, I got a name. I got a name. There we go. I got a name. There we go.

Pat Cunnington. Patrick. Patrick. Patrick McCall. Oh my God. These aren't players that just made the finals? It's deeper than that. There's an added layer to it.

Okay. Keep going. A little bit more specific. Yeah. All right. Think very granular. You said Patrick McCaw? Yeah.

Patrick McCaw. Okay. Rajon Rondo. Pascal Siaco. Ooh. mckel bridges man straight players that made final teams

okay i got to think about what the rendition is keep going Duncan Robinson oh this is know what this is this is NBA players who made the finals in the last 10 years so close

so close you're in the 2010s no no no no right track right track just think more specific in the last five years yeah there we go congratulations

I was thinking a long mark in my brain yeah congratulations let's do another one those games

let's do it with Donovan on the hot seat this time because that was a little too easy honestly I could have got that six guesses

earlier ruined too fast the Mo I'm gonna text you a category all right but let's go ahead and do it

put his ass in a blender you got that text all right Let's see if Donovan can do this since his turn. I'm going to name random MBA players. Donovan has to guess what category they come from. Yeah.

Josh Hart. Scotty Barnes. Hmm. Rudy Gobert. Mm. Jared Allen. Anthony Davis. Whoa.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Russell Westbrook. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Where are we going with this? Josh Hart, Scotty Parks. Mr. Robinson. What? Mm.

Jason Kidd. Mm. Oscar Robertson. Mm. James Hardin. Any thoughts? Is this players? Wait, you said,

Ah, dang, you said Mitcher Robinson. I was thinking. players who have had like a triple double or something maybe too hmm this is Ben Wallace oh Clyde Drexler okay yeah like ridiculous feel my pain Jakob Podal is this second round oh wait no it's not second round page I'm in the blender right now this sucks I don't like this game

Luca Donchich Luca Donchich It's not Dennis Rodman What the hell What the hell? Blender Blender

Blender Blender You got on a coffin Drummond I was waiting for that one I was waiting to say that one Wait who did you say? Very telling

I said Andre Drummond Is this players who have had 20 rebounds in a game? No, it's not that specifically but you're thinking around the right lines Is this players who have been top 10 in rebounding? Nope, you're getting warm though

close Yana Satenekumbo Michael Jordan Okay, that throws off my rebound Michael Jordan, all right. That's all my rebounding stuff. Dasht, don't lie. This play, not Jaron Jackson.

Are these people who have led their team in rebounding? It's not that specific. Were they just good rebounders? Like, what are we talking about? Yeah, there is go. Just good to rebounders. These players are good at rebounding. What?

Yeah, there we go. It was so simple. You said top 20 in rebounding? You're just going to hit this head on a horn. Yo, that's all we have today. Mo, people are still here. What should they comment? What they should do is they should go watch the last stream to see our TD3 award show.

But after that, what should they comment, Mo? No, you're absolutely right, bro. I was going to say, if they didn't catch that one, tune in TD3 lives every Monday, 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific. Facts, but that's not a comment. So what should the comment after they do that? Tune in. What the fuck?

That's what they should do. Let's ingrate it into their minds. All right. Next person, Donovan, what should they comment? You're not about the grind. That's all that tells me. We're out. Comment comment that. Comment Mo's not about the grind. Yeah, comment Mo's not about the grind. I don't know why. That's so backwards.

See y'all lady.