The Deep 3 Podcast - We Put Every 2024 NBA Team In a Tier List | Ep. 51

Episode Date: August 25, 2023

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So as you'll know, last week, we did our all-time rankings, top 30, which concluded our off-season ranking series. We did every position in the NBA currently. All-time, like I said, we kept it off in episode 50. And today, we're going to change things up finally and do a tier list of every NBA team ahead of next season. Thank goodness. Listen, I was ranked out. We ranked 150 things. No, like 180.

180. That's a lot of rankings. I can't do this for too much longer. Yeah, ranking is cool and all that, man, but putting people in teams, as we're going to do today, into tier lists is a lot more fun, a lot easier, but we're still going to get into a lot of interesting conversation nonetheless. For sure. Yeah.

It's like the only way I know how to think about basketball for the last month and a half has just been like, who's better in this guy or this guy? Facts, exactly. Yeah, so like I said, last week was episode 50, and the reception to that all-time list was like the craziest thing we've had in our channel yet. it's been five days since you posted that and has like 120k news by far it's on the way being by far our biggest episode ever

people love the fact that we were in person it was great appreciate y'all people were obsessed with don's knitted polo out if there's one thing about I love a good knitted polo I will mess one up I will listen that's my

that's my stuff that's my bag every single viewer appreciate you for it they loved it I if the again I appreciate the appreciation right shout out to y'all I listen I might have to start wearing some more knitted polos on the show I might have to start doing it she's going to be a uniform every episode knitted polo we have every episode don't win a polo and every episode don rance that's got to be the new thing we're going to sell TD3 branded knitted polos come season two like that's oh that's hard listen that's on the rollout that is all right do we just do that's crazy that's crazy

Let's get into this tier list Let's do it This is going to be great And I think Let's go Right now we're looking at the screen I think these teams Are an alphabetical order

Let's go straight into it One by one So we have a good little You know mixture of quality of themes So it's straight Screw me first Okay cool

Yeah straight from the oxygen Let's dig D Your insecurities right away All right So we're going A through F Correct Or S as well

As my bad Yeah I'm like you No, you get the first input. Thank you. So for the audio listeners, we're going S through F. F obviously being the worst. Now, me as an Atlanta Hawks fan, as a Hawks fan, you can feel all types of ways.

You could feel underrated. You could feel overrated. You can feel depressed. You could feel happy. Like me. If you're like me, you've completely detached. And you now have zero expectations on your team whatsoever. That's what I'm saying.

You love your business. You mind your business. You are for Tray Young to the end. You have not attached to anything. And for me being detached to the Hawk success, Trey Young success is different. The Hawk success. I'm going to place this team as a C.

That's where they belong. I want to put them at B because they're still interesting to me. But I'm going to put them at C. I don't want to go ahead. I don't want to go ahead and add more pressure or anything like that to them. They haven't made any serious moves. If they would have traded for Pascal Seacom, even though I don't think it would have been a good trade,

they could have been beat. They ain't do shit. They're only with the same exact roster, minus John Collins, you know, and they had, I can rant about this team for ages, bro. Spacing got better. They will be B, but for now, see.

Yeah, they're definitely C, for sure. They're the most, they're the definition to see. Every time we do any type of rankings, tier less, anything to sort, and the Hawks come up, we're immediately like, average, mid as fuck. That's our interpretation of the Hawks

in every facet. I feel like in the 2010s, we've never seen anything more mid ever in all categories of life like we've never seen anything like this bro nobody's ever been mid quite as much as the honk in the midst of the world i didn't even clarify so this tier list is based off how good we think this team will be next season so it's projecting so the title of this video says we're tier ranked tier listing every 2024 NBA team that's the goal here is how do we think they're going to be in the following season based off what we saw last year and the changes they made in the off season.

Listen, you could have told me last year, next year, two years from now, the Hawks are still going to be C. They're just going to be mid for a long time unless a major move happens. Like Mo said, listen, they could have traded for Pascal Seacom like Mo said, but they did not. They still have this weird back court that really doesn't make sense. Quinn's not. It was low-key cooking, though, at the end of last season. So I think they have potential, but when I look at everybody else in the east,

East. I think I trust a lot of other teams and their infrastructure and what they have right now. So I will put, I'll put the Hawks at C, play in, listen, play in team incoming. We'll see if you guys can win two games. Do you want a double or nothing? You still owe me

my money. You know what? No, I don't want to even double or nothing. Do you want an other vet? No, we will double or nothing right now. What are you betting? That they're not going to make the playoffs again? Yeah, let's do it. Oh my God. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm playing. No, no, no, no. I actually believe in them a little bit more this year.

I was going to say, I'm mostly joking about how ass they are. They are mid, but I think, like Donovan said, Quinn Snyder was cooking in the second half of the year. I think we owe it to each team to give them a little bit of commentary besides just saying they're at. And listen, they have two really talented defensive centers. You're always going to have one of them on the court at all times. You have two high-quality ball handlers. They don't play well together, per se. Well, they don't play horrible, but they know, they're not complimentary together. But you can always have one on the court at all times. With John Collins gone, you have more reps to give to your young, interesting wings in Jalen Johnson, AJ Griffin. If you want to call DeAndi Hunter, interesting still, you can throw him in there. And along with that, you have a lot more spacing on the court.

Throughout Trey Young's entire tenter as an Atlanta Hawk, he had the worst spacing statistically on the court that he's ever had, bro. He played with Kent Baysmore. He played with the corpse of Vince Carter. All right. And even those guys were better shooters than what we had last year alongside Trey Young. So no,

yeah, thinking about healthy. Jonti Murray, DeAndre Hunter, Collins, Capella. That's horrific spacing. That's horrible.

And Dejante's shooting didn't even make sense, bro. I almost want to call him a fake shooter, but he shot better off of the dribble from three than like regular catch and shoot threes, which tells me like, you know, like rhythm shooter.

Like that's fine. He's not a fake shooter or anything like that. But it's just like, They have a lot of work to do. Bogey coming in healthy helps a lot. I don't know where Coach Snyder breaks. Oh, yeah, Moby. I forgot about bogey, too.

Yeah, exactly. That's a part of the reason why we also had, like, terrible spacing because this man was in and out, we're mostly out of the, of the lineup. Yeah, exactly, because of some injuries and stuff like that. No, no, no, no, no, no. I want to put the beat. Don't do it. The point of the sea list, the point of the series is projecting for next season what we think.

Oh, my goodness. I'm confident this seems to me better. next year. If we're talking about last year, C, maybe D based on expectations. But now I'm talking to it, I think they're going to be better next year. Did I just talk myself into delusion? Did I just talk to you into delusions? What are we doing? I want to say B, because we're, we are going to see a different version of Trey Young. I honestly believe. I don't know. I think Trey on Trey Young. I don't care about that. But I just think once I thought about how bad the spacing was and how much better it can be this year.

Yeah. And just how much went wrong for them last year health-wise. and how much interesting young guys they have coming into the pipeline that can help around the edges, I think they'll be being next year. I believe in Quinn Snyder. I'm so disappointed. Absolutely.

They've given us no indication that over 82 games, they will be above average. Like, do any one of y'all think, because when I think about like B, A, and S, I'm thinking about one teams that aren't going to be in the play-in and teams that actually have a little,

legitimate chance to at least make like the conference finals I do not feel that way with Atlanta okay so I you said two things there you said that you said that even has no indication that can be above average I think they have and it's what we saw Quinn Snyder and how their offers are covered like you said I think that's the indication that they can be better and when we talk about the roster moves they made and how the team they were constructed like me Moe said plus that I think that's the indication and as far as the part where you said what each year means to you and can I make the conference finals I view it as tier is the best teams in the league. That's obvious. A is like second tier contenders. No

worries them falling out of the playoffs. They're going to be in that mix. We'll see those teams become. And I think B is like a really solid playoff team. And I think that's a fair, yeah, it's a fair thing to call the Hawks next year, I think. A really solid playoff team that could make noise. And if they were to go on a run, it wouldn't shock you necessarily. You wouldn't stumble off your seat. You'd be like, wow, that makes sense. And you could see a very viable world where that happens. We've seen it happen before. So I mean, like, it's not insane to say, you could see it happen again it's only shocking like if they make the conference finals they're going to have to go through either Milwaukee Boston Philly or Cleveland they've done that before I don't think

if they play Philly okay fine you got me you call right they're like the Cleveland Cavaliers in the playing was a year and a half or two years ago something like that who cares that was before the guy that's what we're doing for sure that's what we're doing accomplishment okay you be with Yeah, it will be great. Nobody, everybody was hurt. Everybody was hurt on that Cavs team as well. Like that Cavs team before they got Donna Mitchell was good. And then they went through just injury after injury after injury.

And it was Darius Garland by himself playing offense. And so I think that they, and like we'll talk about this later, but I think that the Cavs are going to be much better this season. And I just find it hard for, I find it hard to believe that the Hawks are going to be on this deep run going, into the playoffs. Yeah, I'm not trying to say they're A. I think if you're predicting a deep run, that's A tier. I don't think B tier necessarily has to be that.

I would have them more at the top. I would feel more comfortable with them at the top of the C range rather than even at the bottom of B range. For a team like the Atlanta Hawks, if you're going to have bad spacing, you know, like and have two players who are ball dominant, that's just a chemical for disaster. That's just like an easy recipe for disaster, you know, but now you still have two players

who are super ball dominant. They're going to continue to play like that. You'll have, you'll, you'll fly and you'll catch some Ws because it's naturally you're going to acquire so much touch on the court and then where he's going to be open. Will you catch some Ws? A lot more Ws. It's a three points in a league, you know, and they were one of the worst time in the team right now.

We should have done this. I know. B. Listen, end of the day. Yeah. I know you hate them. You got outvoted, bitch. Deal with it.

That's terrible. That's terrible. Next team, the Boston Celtics. What do y'all think? A or S? I think I want to put him A, though. Maybe S. I don't know.

How exclusive are we going to be with this S tier? You said what? How exclusive are we going to be with this S tier? I'm very exclusive with the S tier. Yeah. Like, is it going to be like the top of like three teams in league? I think I think they probably deserve to be S-tier Like making deep runs every year

Obviously it's a disappointment a lot of the times But when you're in the conference finals Every year, you make it to a final year before last We their floor is conference finals at this point I think that's an S-tier team You think conference finals is an S-tier team Yeah, I mean I guess we're just going to put the nuggets

And whoever the other top team in league is in your perspective My only issues that I'm projecting you know, I can see exactly what will be the cause and main issue of their downfall. And that, you know, that main route is still not solved. Maybe it has been, but like, that's because we haven't seen Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown progress in playmaking it or whatever. But yeah, all signs point towards like that not happening. Okay, so my question, Donovan, you can answer this first.

Do you think they're going to be a better team next year after the moves they made to get KP and send out Marcus Smart? Better, no, no, but only because for them better means winning a championship. Well, no, don't even, don't be focused on results, just thinking about the team or what, you know, what they're bringing the table. No, I think that, I think they'll be about the same. The concerns that I have for them is like, they, they still have as many injury concerns as, exactly, as they did last season. Brogden is still there who they couldn't trade because he was hurt. That was crazy.

I forgot about that. Exactly. Brogden is always hurt. K.P. is always hurt. And you traded people, right? So you traded people a way to go to go get KP. So now you have less depth than you had before. And I just, the Jalen Brown thing, his, his playmaking, his ball handling is kind of weird. We're probably not going to see Jason Tatum be this insane passer. They still have, and we've been saying it all offseason. They still have. the same issues that they had last year. Yeah. Robert Williams has always heard as well. So I don't think that they are going to get better. I think for them literally, the only way that we can say if they got better is if they get over the hump, get back to the finals and win a championship. But that's very, that's very possible, right? Like they were in it two years ago. Last year, one game away, like, it's not, it wouldn't be shocking at all. They made it. Like, it wouldn't. If I said they were the favorites to get out of the

east, would that be shocking to you? No. And I, I would have them. For me, I, have them as as my favorites to get out of the east but I don't but I got to be yes here then come on they got to be yes then it's you're trapped yeah I mean it's just it's trying to be as selective as possible with this tier and the the only reason why I have them in A is because I don't trust them I don't trust them to be at that top level because I don't think that they are as good as some of the other teams that are going to be in the S tier. So, I'll put it this way. But I, you know, you're right, though.

You're right. You're right. And if I can say, I think they'll be in the finals and you won't be shocked, I think you got to be S tier. You're, you're right. If I have them as my favorites to get out the East, we have to put them in us. I'll give you that.

Let's go. I'll give you that. That's all, yeah. The loss itself is super interesting because, you know, they strengthened up on all of the things that they didn't need necessary to strengthened up you know like KP the only difference between

yeah because they fixed all the problems that they didn't even need to fix bro like he's got KP cool he's the only difference between him and all the other elite shooters you have is he shoots like a couple steps like further and also he's tall as fuck that's it you know and when it's defensive it kind of helps

if out Horford and Robert Williams are always hurt and you can kind of get and also you have this like dilemma of do we want Robert Williams with like the defense and the room protection or do we want al-horfrey with the shooting you get a little bit of both with kp and so if he's there then you then you can put him in the lineup have a little bit more flexibility have a little bit more creation like at the at the front of the lineup yeah it it helps you could say that they now have the

best wing duo in the league and the best front court rotation with those three guys that's a really strong place to start and then you have derrick white who's a really solid point guard obviously you don't have the backup front guard you'd want, but that's a strong foundation. And I like what Mo said, Harry said, they fixed all the wrong issues. They fixed issues they didn't have. That's an interesting way to view roster moves because, like you said, they didn't solve the problems, but they added new strengths. So, like, how does that relate?

I almost view that as like, wow, like, you know, you're doubling down on what you're really good at so you blow teams out the fucking wazoo. Yeah. But, you know, at the same time, just like there's still this one thing that I feel like every single championship team needs to have and that's just like an overall someone who's a great playmaker

floor general whatever you want to call it it's just it's there in history teams do they have one of those guys or a multitude two three three of those guys you know so for sure it's tough yeah but then again they have a top eight player in the world

and like the 20th best player in the league and KP's like the 25th best player in the league maybe something like that that's you know they might be able to talent their way to a championship It won't be shocking. Yeah. I wouldn't be shocking. They're in S, you're right.

But then the bottom of the next year, I think we can say that. The teams that are going to be in there with them are probably better. Easy. This is why I like rankings a little bit more. Yeah, the tiers give you some flexibility than having so black and white. Yeah. Our next team, we got the Brooklyn Nets. D tier.

I thought D for a second, but are they low K-C? Do you think they're going to be out of the playing race, or are they going to be a funky team? that can do a little bit and be competitive. I mean, they'll probably be in the playing race just because you can be under 500 and still be around 1110 and still do all that. But they were so bad after that, after the trade.

And listen, I like McKell Bridges a lot. They still have a lot of forwards and their roster just doesn't make sense. And I don't think that they are going to be even like really, really competitive even in the playing. Nickill, can you pull up the next roster? Let's look at the moves I made this offseason

because I think they're a little different now. And they're an interesting case point because, like you said, they were crap after the deadline last year. But everybody kind of expected them to be good. They had the pieces to be good. So let's look at this rotation of the guy going on. Keep a click depth at the top. Yeah.

While Nikiel is going through this, in my opinion, they could be max, like a C, but that is almost entirely dependent on how, like, if Ben Simmons is, like, half of the player that he used to be, and that's, that's great, you know, and that's a lot of the, yeah, it's so, it's so easy to forget he's there, bro, but I, I really feel like if he's a third, a third or a half of the player that he used to be, then that fixes a lot of the woes. And, you know, like, he'll add obviously tremendous value on the offensive end. And that will just, like uplift this team as a whole

everywhere. You know, if you play a little bit faster Nick, Nick Clackson, he's still developing, has gone better every single year that he's been in the NBA. So it's all, I don't want to put too much pressure on Ben Simmons because you know, you're right, you're right, it is like, for sure. It is what it is. It's the next factor because

it's so easy for us to get up here now and to be like, oh, he's cooked forever. He's not going to be anything. Yeah. I don't think, I'm past the point of expecting him to be like a star again or like early last season, a lot of us, including me, we're like, oh, let's give him a chance. Maybe, you know, given time to recover from the injury, he can come back and be the benzene as we know he can be. You got to just assume he's not going to be that until he is.

But could he be a useful player? Could he be a solid backup for like his playmaking off the bench? That wouldn't be entirely shocking, would it? We're asking him to be Lamar Odom? Like, is he like, is that who we're asking? I'm being for real. Is that what we're asking? Yeah, like, honestly, he can be a useful player again in some capacity.

If Markkel Fultz can recover, he can recover. Barquale Fultz's back is broken And it looks like Benziman's back is broken You think back was the biggest issue last year? Because I know a lot of the talk was like also confidence And just like general meaning time to recover Both mentally and physically

I think part of it I think that his back probably felt a little bit better But it was also times where Even if you don't have like the best confidence You can still move He looked stiff Yeah, he looks stiff defensively. I don't, it looked like he was limited.

I'm not, I'm not sure what we're going to get from Ben Simmons this, this season. And especially like the lineups with him and Claxton, like, John Vaughn was out here saying like, hey, we basically, we really just can't run those lineups. Because they, they are just both such non-shooters that it messes up everything. So I don't know where, if you are putting him in the lineup with Dennis Smith Jr., Lonnie Walker, Royce O'Neill, and Dave. on sharp and what you know maybe cam johnson sneaks in there that is a terrible lineup yeah i think you see bench lineups where he comes in for spencer dinwiddie and then either line walker or royce and he'll come in for one of the other wings so you have like a simmons bridges cam johnson walker and claxon lineup so ben simmons and claxon still doesn't give you a ton of spacing like

it's still not ideal but when they're flanked like three really good shooters they have a lot of good wings I can shoot the ball but I don't think it's like impossible this year that's their problem though they just have a lot of good wings but they yeah they so they were rolling in December they went 12 and 1 in December they were seven and seven in January three and eight in February eight in March and then three and two in April so they are really they are really really mid with the possibility of hey if things don't go right for a couple games we might go on this random five game losing streak and I think that puts them closer to D rather than a legitimate average team in the league.

The thing is, though, how much do you believe in Bridges to be able to do more next year as he gets more used to this role of being the guy? I think he can do a lot for himself. He's going to be able, his 2K rating is going to go up, his stats are going to be fantastic. They are not going to win a lot of games. Okay. The fit's just not there. What are you think, Mom?

Don is going to be? Where are you going? I could go out I'm looking at the roster right now. Oh, wouldn't it would he'll head up. And I'm like, damn, they're a little, they're, I don't know why, but that starting lineup is like, I like it a lot. But still, with that being said, if McCall Bridges is like the focal point of your offense, your team is ass, bro.

He's not like, even though he's developed and like, you know, he's been that three level score and taking the leap, if you'd like to say, I don't think that he's taken enough to carry the true burden of what true offensive engines do, you know? Yeah, for sure not. With that being said, you know, like... The 76 has made it very clear in the playoffs that you take away his mid-range jumper. He's not doing anything for anybody, not even himself. After that first game where he went bonkers, he looked very regular once the 76ers made one simple adjustment.

Yeah, exactly. And with that being said, I think I have to feel comfortable with putting them in D. All right, Dee, it is Donovan finally wins one Thank you Thank you I was wondering when I was I was wondering how many teams

We were going to go Yeah, I just I just strong around you every time Everybody gets to piss you off Just troll you Everybody's a You did All right

All right next team The Charlotte Hornets Dee D? I feel like They gotta be D right the hornets are interesting man like they have this is a new found starting center in mark williams who's actually good and he's uh for sure long term piece alongside lamello ball they don't have a lot of those um they have a criminal returning back to their yeah

yeah we're a criminal returning back to their i forgot about brandon miller too man i feel like i haven't heard or seen anything feels like the NBA jasmine ages ago man gosh for sure Listen, it's fuck Miles Bridges forever But if he's going to be there Him and Brandon Miller is a wing duo Him and Brandon Miller is a wing duo, it's interesting I guess now we got to talk about Miles Bridges like he's a regular person again

Which like yuck, but so would be it Him and Brandon Miller together is nice With Terry and Lamello If Mark William takes a lead Terry Brandon Miller PJ Washington Because I have to assume that PJ's gonna still start Yeah until Brandon Miller's ready

Yeah exactly And then Mark Williams I kind of like that And that's a, that's a high quality lottery team. It's high quality lottery team. Listen, they're going to have Gordon Hamer for 26 games out of the year. They'll be an impactful 26 games. Nice.

Nick Richards, very, very like, who? Back of center. Oh, man. What do you think, Donovan? Franklin is on this team? Are you serious? Wow. Listen, he had to be somewhere.

He had to be on some team. I guess it's going on. No, he didn't. He could have just been out the league. That's crazy. Okay, okay. Shout out Frank. Shout out Frank.

Yeah. No, it's a decent team. If they still healthy. The problem last year wasn't that they were just pissed, poor, because they had no good players. It's because they had injury concerns and Miles Bridges is a criminal. Now, he's back in criminal activities. Lamello should be healthy. Put Terry back in the role he should have been in as a secondary ball handling.

Listen, I don't know to do a big. Like, could they be seen? they could only be seen I think that's best case scenario the only world there see is if lamello ball truly ascends to that tier of player that I think a lot of people feel like

he should be in you know I am predicting a lamella ball breakout season I think he is one of the most underrated young players in the league right now because he's on the hornets and because he's been hurt yeah I'm comfortable with C because I think that's going to happen if you think that's what they need to happen for NBC

I'm comfortable saying that's going to happen Oh my God, there's a rat in the room! What the fuck? Ah! We got a live reaction to rat in New York City. Oh, no, Mo's in the trenches. He's in the trenches. We have to get Mo. Listen, for 39 cents a day, you can help get Moe out the trenches, out of the Bronx, New York.

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Most speechless. Wow. I don't even know what to say anymore. I'm talking about the mellow ball and his ascension. And the next thing you know, a fucking tiny mouse comes crawling towards my lighting. and then as soon as I start screaming it runs away and now I damn near piss my pants you know where it's at

he's just living there now he's got to leave him there I don't know what I want to listen we might be done for the night we might have to pick this up tomorrow Mo just can't think my Apple watch is telling you my heart rate is going crazy right now let's just try to

come down and listen listen Mo I feel bad for you I'm sorry you're going through this I'm moving but this is excellent content if it was going to happen I'm so glad the cameras are on thank goodness oh my goodness this is perfect timing

wow wow wow all right man let's put the hornets and seat here no okay no you're not just going to sneak that in no stop that McHugh put them in D please put them okay Mo you're the deciding factor

where they go on Mr. Mouse the Hornets I think they genuinely I think they're going to be C-T I think they're going to be easier. It's kind of crazy. I understand what we're doing. I understand the exercise.

I understand the exercise. I get what we're doing. I just don't. Young cores get better. I don't think it's crazy to think they'll get better. There's so many other teams that I actually think are going to be see. And it's like, listen, based on where I'm thinking of, like, if I have in my mind, if the Hawks are C, then I don't feel comfortable putting the hornets in the same one.

That's great because the hawk aren't seen. There'd be. I'm telling you what I think. Okay. I'm giving you my thoughts. Listen, the list talks, the list is back from now on the Hawks are B.

I'm not participating. The list is Bible. Next one. I mean, Chicago Bulls. We're not going to do this for an hour and a half. I see. Should we just like not even talking about the Bulls?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, can we not? Can we not talk about the Bulls? Shout to Alonzo, but see. Yeah. Yeah, see, I really don't want to talk about the Bulls at all. There we go.

Listen, we can't talk about every team, so the Bulls, C-tier. Next team, the Cavs. I'm so disoriented, bro. I can't even think straight. Wow. This is a flu game. This is hilarious. I got you.

Flu game, for real. Listen, the Cavs, man. The Cavs are A-tier. Yeah, calves are 18 Okay, so does anybody have a different opinion? Because I also love the calves, but they did get the teeth kicked in And maybe we should acknowledge flaws

They were shown by the Knicks No, they are fine The calves are going to be so Freaking good this year Okay, they are 18 I'm this close If we're projecting, I'm this close to saying S tier I love what the calves have cooking

Okay, so explain why them getting their tee kicked in by the next a very regular playoff team doesn't concern you one mobily is going to get better and i think that for him often like last season was a very big breakout season at least defensively for him the offensively game is still going to come jared allen he acknowledged that the lights were too bright but hey he's been in the playoffs before i think he's going to be okay offensively them signing nying and them signing max strews is going to give them so much more versatility offensively and they're going to be able to stagger garland and Mitchell so much better and be able to have some length on the

floor whenever you have those two undersized guards there so so i think that offensively they're going to be fine when everybody was healthy even in the regular season they were one of the top three they were one of the top three defenses in the league depending on what week you caught at they might have been the best defense in the league they have they have all the tools to be a really good team. And there's a lot. And especially when we look at the rest of the Eastern Conference, the Cavs are able and they're going to be in prime position to make a very, very deep run. So I like, I like what Cleveland is going to do next season. I'm going to make any leap or stride like that unless they, unless like Evan Mowgli is able

to extend his range or if not, then they go ahead and make a decision and trade away, like, like Jared Allen for the sake of yeah we and accepting the fact that like you know this is his archetype this is what he needs in order to maximize his ability we're going to go ahead and do what's best for our third overall pick and continue to prioritize them as a quarter store

cornerstone piece and so with that being said I still think that they have like a few of the same issues they did go ahead and get Max Truce which is like big ups you know because he is one he is a good shooter in the NBA but I don't

I don't think Max Struz is good enough to, yeah. I don't think Max Drews is good enough to go ahead and warrant them to be like an No, for sure. Maxx isn't move illegal that way. But I think the combination of Fruce and the Yang helps them a lot more than the talent of those guys that make you think just because they so desperately needed wing shooting and those guys, for all they lack, are good wing shooters, you know, like they're going to give them the spacing they need.

They're the type of shooters that provide spacing, not fake shooters that can shoot 38%. Like, these are legit guys that will stress the defense. so maybe the problem is can niang play in the playoffs we'll see but at least in the regular season they have two legit shooters that can prevent them from relying so much on keroslavert and alexicoro who you know aren't spacers exactly that's that's my entire point is that instead of having at the bare minimum instead of having three non-shooters you're going to have two and for what it's worth it's going to improve the spacing and that one change is going to allow guard to get downhill.

It's going to let Donovan Mitchell get downhill a little bit more. I'm really bullish on the cab. So I would like to put them. I understand S might be a bit of a stretch. And it's ridiculous. And it's asking a very big stretch of them. So I will go ahead. Yeah, we can go ahead.

I'm cool with that. They're better than the Hawks. They wouldn't shock you if they could run into the finals, get to the finals. You're not going to predict it. But they could do it. I think that's fine. There'll be a top three, four seed maybe.

Easy for sure. They should easily be a top three scene. Okay. Before we move on to this next team, Mo, give us a vibe check. Are you freaking out? Do you need to be hyped up to recuperate and get through this podcast? How are you feeling? I think it's clear as day that my mind is just like, I'm looking, scanning on the floor,

any movement I see, I'm tweaking. I'm looking everywhere. I'm looking everywhere. It's menacing ghosts. That's fine. You know what? You have us to talk through with this throughout this process. The fans are here, the viewers are listening.

Tell them how you're feeling. We'll get through this together. I am not feeling good and I need help. This is a cry for help. Bro, the way that thing was coming at me too was crazy. I was

like I'm here and I'm helpless. I have a mic in my hands and I have my ginger rail on the floor. What am I supposed to do? I'm live on camera right now. I can't like get up and move my legs because I'm going to fuck up my setup. I can't go ahead and run out the room or be

on my bed like I easily do. God. Don't pull up a rat tear list. I tell us which one of the other one. Which bad boy was it? I hate New York. Fuck in this place. God.

All right, man. We're one with this next team. We're half an hour in. We're through like five teams. We've got to keep it moving. Where are we put in the Dallas Mavericks? Projecting. We all acknowledged before the past that they failed horribly last year.

But they're going to be better this year. It's beer A. not a at all i feel comfortable being b i kind of want their ceiling is a for sure yeah that's why that's why i threw out b or a because if you're real bullish in the combination you acknowledge they have maybe the best guard in the league by the next season he finally has him second star to fix some of the issues that made them floundered the end of the last year it wouldn't be shocking if they're better than the cast next year yeah all their role players just have to come together josh green has to continue to ascend as a high-level role player, you know?

They got Derek Jones, Derek Jones, Jr. He's a fantastic piece alongside everybody. Rassan Holmes. They have pieces. But Roshal Holmes was nasty last time in the eight minutes. He didn't get to play last year, a real year before that.

But a few years ago, his first year with the Kings, he was really good. Having him's your backup fine is nice. Hey, I'm not going to lie. This is kind of a C-tier team. Oh, you got to your fucking mind. This is got a C-Tier team.

Who are they stopping? Who are they stopping? Well, what? Who is stopping them? Who are they stopping? We could go back and forth. That's not a horrible defensive unit. Grant Williams and a center

is a solid front court defensively. Obviously, Luca and Kyrie aren't going to be stoppers. I don't know if, this has Tim Hardaway Jr. starting at the three. I don't know if that's really who's going to be starting there, but it'll be their best perimeter defender whoever that ends up being in camp. Probably Josh Green.

Yeah. Definitely, Josh Green. He progressed so much last season. Okay, can you guys at least give me this? Do they have solid potential to be in the C tier next year? Like if they ended up there, would you guys be shocked? Yes. Can it happen?

Yes. Will I be shocked? I'll definitely be shocked. If the whole season sample size, it's a matcher, C-tier means average. Yes. I'll be shocked if they were average or worse. I think they're going to be slightly above average at the minimum. Just they have somebody who's going to be developing into the maybe the best player

in the league very soon. top three to five guy and he has a second star and his solid supporting cast to get his spacing as a front court that can defend a little bit I think this team

is a very high floor okay all right we'll see yeah we'll see I'm not gonna press for A yeah I'm not I'm not gonna fight

I'm not gonna fight about it but I'm not too too high I'm on Dallas going into next season there is a world with their C I wouldn't be like or horrifically shocked of bitter ass again where we saw them fail

so you can't be surprised if it happens again so I see your logic but under the circumstances that they failed at, like, I don't want to say they're pretty much destined to fail, but they had nothing going their way whatsoever other than having another superstar or star, however you want to catarizing in Cairo. Yeah. No, there's definitely circumstances that held them back that was hard to overcome and they would have had to really click and they just didn't, so they couldn't

overcome him. Max. All right. B. Let's keep rolling. He's fine. Nuggets, no words. That's dear. Don't in there. Whatever. They're going to win the title again. If everything's healthy i think i think they should be the favorites immediately yoghs is the best player in the world he has the best supporting fat cash you can imagine around him without one of the superstar there's nothing bad to say about this team jemal mary's going to be an all-star next season christian brown's going to fill in those uh ruser brown shoes they're going to be okay yep they will be fine do you all think they're going to the finals again win or be in the finals my favorite.

Well, I don't, whatever. Do you think do you mean the finals in that win? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I think they're going to be in the finals again. Okay. Yeah, hard to predict at that point, but I think they'll win the West.

I do think one team that we're getting a little bit has a good chance, but we're going to know. What about the Pistons? Are there still an F tier or have they accumulated enough talent that we think they'll be D? There has to be an F tier. Again, we're projecting, it's a young core. Cade is going to have a season to develop. He said that age where you would think he'd make a little bit of a leap. I mean, you would think so, but he also has missed a lot of time. So that might be a little bit delayed. I am going to say F tier. Even though I love Jaden Ivy. Monty Morris. I don't know. I love Jada Thompson. I like Hayton and him a lot. They're just not going to be a good team. They're just going to lose a lot of games. Okay, I agree. I agree. But okay, so what's the difference in F and D to you? I feel for me F is like tire fire, like rockets and

Pistons last year. D is like you suck. You're in the lottery, but you know, you're not getting blown all by 30 every night. They should be D. They're going to be at the bottom of the conference. I think for me, F is like 14 and 15, maybe even 13. And then D is where we're talking about you're like 12, 11, kind of being sneaky fighting for the play in. But I don't think that they're going to have a legitimate chance to get into the playing. So I'm putting them at F. Okay. Yeah. I don't really know which teams you could, for them ahead of them like I don't know who you could put below them so maybe that means a happy F because I don't even know yeah exactly yeah exactly by that logic just

thinking about the wizards the wizards to be worse than them um facts oh true true that's that's it oh you know it's not barely go out and put the wizards and the pisses of F tier so they're going to be the worst two teams in the conference perfect go ahead and throw them both in there is you talking about them man but yeah man that's about it all right cool

all right cool the Warriors uh they're gonna be an S in my mind A TIR A A for sure Really? And that's a

Why would be S tier And that's a generous A tier too Okay Mo let's focus on you I would listen to them Do you think they'd be better than last year I think they're going to be better than last year

because Vives are just completely off last year Like, they were asked. It wasn't a salt start of the season. That's a good point. You know, exactly. That just does a lot, and that carries on throughout the entire season. I was joking, but it was definitely.

It quite literally was. It wasn't on file, but, bro, it was on video. It was okay, but like 360P. Yeah, it was literally an assault. Yeah, that's fine. But with that, with that being said, going into the season with being hungry, some of the stuff,

of play another layer another tool in your tool bag offensively with having Chris Paul with having Chris Paul coming off the bench and having to you know giving having another element that you haven't had in years since you could argue since they had since they had Katie and also like Sean Livingston someone who's just super mid-range savvy and also someone who can help unlock other levels of players on that team too um I like it a lot of lot. I like it a lot. Okay. You mentioned you have this. Sorry. I do think that they would be, if they made the finals, it was surprised, no, whatsoever.

And I think they should make it what's their conference finals, guaranteed. That's fair. You mentioned that they have this. No, I wouldn't guarantee that for damn sure, but it wouldn't be shocking if they made that far. But you mentioned they have Chris Paul now, which is a new element. Are you confident that it'll work? I am pretty confident that it will work for sure. the only way it wouldn't work is if Chris Paul is either hurt or he simply just isn't diving with the whole running around thing

Jive Jive Listen, listen, listen he gets from a lot I've heard the end of one Listen, listen listen You need two possibilities that can go wrong One, that motherfucker gets hurt a lot Two, that motherfucker doesn't jog a lot

He can definitely not jive a lot. He was not a jiver Him and Curry have not jive in the past I wouldn't be shocking. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, I don't know, but I envision a world and where all that is put to the side. Obviously, injuries with the flex, easily like one of the most unlucky players

in NBA history when he comes to that time. He's consistently pissed poor. But if this is, if he was going to surpass injuries and have that not be a plague to his success on the court, this could potentially be here because no one is relying on Chris Paul on a consistent basis. Just give us 15 to 17 max like 25 minutes a game, bro.

Give us 25 minutes of your time every night and you're good. That's all we need from you, you know? And I think there are a lot of ways and a lot of avenues and so many more loopholes that they can throw into their offense to help throw off and offset teams throughout the regular season and also obviously play out. Yeah, they got really predictable to the last year. I think Draymond said that. Or no, maybe he was talking about like 25.

15. He did a podcast at the beginning of this offseason and said, we were predictable, and he was talking about before they got Curry, I mean, before they got KD. And I think they kind of fell back into that last year where you knew what they were going to do. It was Curry's the offense. If Jordan Poole is not cooking, you're screwed. If Clay Thomas is not hitting 10 threes in the game randomly, you're screwed. They had no variety. They were a one-pitch type of good pitcher. And maybe the Chris Paul thing won't jive, but at the very minimum, they have a new pitch. So I, I can see them being as good, if not a little bit better next year. But I'm cool day. I'm going to. I'm going to. I think until, I think until Clay Thompson proves himself to be a reliable second shooter again, then like until that moment, we have to put him in A.

Isn't he on his contract year? Oh, no. Contract Clay? I think he is. I think he is. Listen, maybe he balls out. And again, if he does, then I will give them more respect. but the last

couple times that we've seen Clay Thompson he was bricking everything I think he actually shot solid for the whole season he just like since he came back he wants to be Devin Booker and he does a lot with the ball in his hands that just like doesn't work like he spent all that time rehabbing

he had to work on his like go-to shots he had to work on his back because he couldn't move a lot and he wants to pull that shit out at every opportunity and he just doesn't have the burst he wants to be guys anymore and I don't know it's just like he tries to do too much and we give him credit and let him cook because he's clay and he deserves that opportunity but more often than not it's not helping

yeah four okay eight here it is it is next team let's move on next time we have the husson rockets okay the instant reaction is f tier but i'm a doca they signed for free agents they're going to be a normal team can they be d i think they i think they will be better than the pistons but they are also going to lose a lot of games so they're probably still going to be F. But you know what? We are a pro Amen Thompson

podcast here. But they also have Dylan Brooks. I don't know. Like you go back and forth. You go back and forth. Who's to say? No, I think they deserved it. Sangoon showed signs

of being their best player last year. I think a lot of Rockets fans are taking a little too far with how good to think he'll be. But he's going to be a good starter. Jabari Smith had a rough start in the year. His shot started to come around. He's a perfect pairing with Sengoon.

if year two of his defense is looking good Jan and Green is the perfect age to finally make that leap now that he has a real coach and playing with the real system that allows him to actually get looks off that aren't forced Ben Ben's league is good Good, God, exactly Kevin Ford Jr. is no longer

commandeering the offense doing bullshit and you have Taris not to banish a man. No, I think this team has to be honestly, I think they'll be solid. Okay, you sold me. That's all it took. If I could settle on him to be positive, I won.

Yeah, they added so much to their team to the points where it's impossible that they're piss poor. Now, yes, in my mind, like, they may not be that much separate from the Detroit Pistons when it comes to the wins and lost column and stuff like that. But they're in the Western Conference. It is what it is, man. But also, with that being said, I think you'll see cultural changes within that organization, for sure, obviously with the EMA plan. And you'll see, like, multiple leaps being made in unison because, of all the great things happening there. It just, it just looks like their building.

I feel like the Pistons should be D too. Like they also got Monty Williams, who is also great right? I forgot Monty's there. Okay. I feel like the Pist deserve D. I feel like they're in the same boat as the Rockets. Yeah, I don't want to, I don't want to say, I don't want to put the Pissons in the same tier as the Wizards because the Wizards feel like.

Me neither. I think the Wizards should be the only F-tier team in the league is this year. Yeah. No, we have to, but someone has to be F-tier, though. I thought the Wizards are going to be, I thought the Wizards are going to be nice. last year and then a fucking injury happened. Yeah.

You're two, Jay and Ivy. Cade look really good this summer. Like, they have a real coach. A source of a year development. No, let's keep him in up. We got to keep him in up. All right, whatever. I'm not going to go die over this.

Next up, the Pacers. B? No. Are we okay with B? No, I mean, there's a world with it be. I know why are you saying that? Tyrese is a star. When he was healthy last year, they were.

cooking. Nimhart is really good. Miles Turner had a career year. It's looking like a top in the league. They have a lot of stuff going for him. But look at the teams and B. I know. That's exactly what I'm saying it. Lucky.

I think they deserve to B.B. They deserve to B.B. They deserve to B. They deserve to be B. They deserve to be at. They've done nothing. Let's go. Yeah. They're nothing other than like continue to, you know,

slightly shock people across the NBA universe by just having straight up just good culture and also like making all the right moves necessary and maximizing their potential alongside with everything around with everyone around Tyrese Halliburton with how they were cooking I think it was

it threw everyone off bro and I don't think a lot of people talked about it or at least not enough people talked about it and so yeah I think another year of Tyres Halliburton Bennett Mathrin is I feel like it's almost a guarantee T and lock for him to naturally just get better be more consistent

I'm viable would be I'm viable with me I'm vibe oh I love it Bruce Brown in the hornets Hornets and Bulls are C tier they got me beat like yeah the C tier doesn't have a lot of variety I think those two teams

or at least the Hornets are the bottom of the C tier so maybe that's not a fair comparison like if you said the pace is the top of C tier it would be understandable but I think they deserve be oh my God man that rat stared me in my eyes I'm having flashback

Is it back? No, but like I'm tormented right now The rat incident of 2020 I love it Yeah I'm so happy my camera didn't catch that That would have been The camera got your reaction though

And I'm gonna clip the shit out of this It's gonna be great This is gonna be marketing gold Oh man That's funny Next team of that is the clippers This is a hard one If we're going to pass results

We're not going to pass results. Let me have to say that. But if you were, they would get a low grade. But they're a solid team, man. I want to put them in B, to be honest. B is, I think, the low end. The day, they have BG and Paul George. Like, we all know.

Every year people fucking pick them to be the championship favorites, which we're past that now. But they have A ceiling. We used to say that S ceiling. I think we're past that. They can be as good as the Cavs. No, they can. They can.

But will they? day because the injuries probably not but if they were healthy they certainly would be i feel comfortable putting him in b because they've consistently let us down and they've done nothing to like even progress towards where we want to see them at bro if anything yeah just regressed exactly at this point it's been so many years ruled by injuries you have it's a design thing you got to assume they're going to be hurt until they're not just because at this point you'd be crazy to keep predicting otherwise so it's weird because they have the one of the best duo is in the league but you're right they got to be what if they traded for james hard

just wild x-actor would that move you a little bit i mean well it depends what they it depends what they give up i would think to be better but end of the day we're not putting them b because they're not good enough now we're putting them b because we think they're two best players will get hurt if they get james hardin their two best players can still get hurt so that doesn't really change the reason we're lowering them b yeah they just they're stuck in b until they prove otherwise I think even though they have all the talent to be a but doesn't matter if it's not there next up we have the Los Angeles Lakers a tier listen this is so hard eight year eight year easy thank God I thought I was going to be like looking like a

Lakers dick riders I'm a fan no this team is going to be so good I I said earlier that the Nuggets are going to walk into the finals again unless one team maybe can get in there I think the Lakers have as good of a chance that they've had a LeBron here to make the finals I, listen, I agree. I think out West, I think right now the most logical matchup that we get in the West Conference Finals is going to be a rematch of the Nuggets and the Lake. Yes. I just, they seem the most complete right now.

The way that Anthony Davis was playing defense last year was absolutely insane. And I think with him and Vanderbilt and that defensive versatility and Reeves coming into his own literally the only thing that the lakers have to do that would make me feel more confident in them is ship de angelo russell out of there if they get rid of if they get rid of him they have serious potential to do some stuff and i mean listen they lost they got swept but they they weren't in every one of those games they they did play the nuggets tough so yeah i i'll get that because like a lot of playoff games are close so like then say I hate that. I don't necessarily care

if they got swept. It's always a talking point that, like, they played them the best they could. Each game was close. Good teams, win close games that I just want every single one of them. So, I don't put a lot of stock into the fact that they lost a little good. You know what I mean? I will. The only reason why I will is because LeBron

was hurt. True. Okay. LeBron was hurt and Dilo was out here shooting two for 25 every single game. And you had some of your top players and a lot of the people that you were relying on not really show up or or have some elements and you were still able to be right

there and so i i think the lakers are going to be really good i think they're going to have a very very high ceiling and listen they can mess around and make the finals next year and i wouldn't be shocked i think they can mess around and win the finals and i wouldn't oh okay whoa whoa too much dip too much dip on a chip too much dip i'm not saying they will i think the nuggets of a better chance probably the Celtics I have not what's it called I have Stockholm syndrome

to the point where I got to say the bucks that win it every year and after that I think if you said Lakers are the fourth

best chance to win the finals or maybe 50 to throw the sun in there honestly I don't see I don't like the Lakers more of the sons

but I think the Lakers have a top five chance of winning the finals They for sure that are really okay I'll give you that they for sure do

one thing I really like about the Lakers this year compared to last year is that of course like you know Austin Reeves

is cool and all that And, you know, they got D-Lo, fix their spacing and all that cool stuff. But, A, like, I think Austin Reed is going to not take a leap necessarily, but, like, he's there. And a lot of people know his role is solidified. And, you know, I think he's going to go out. I think he's going to go out and do his thing. But regardless of the fact, their guard rotation is a lot deeper and it's a lot more trustworthy. Gabe Vincent, not to say that

Gabe Vincent necessarily moves the needle, but Gabe Vincent is an option. And on top of that, of course, you still have D-Lo, and then you also have, I mean, I'll still there as well as an off-guard. And then Torin Prince, Jackson Hayes, good players. Tori and Prince is specifically really good player. Jackson is not a good player.

Lakers fans are so hyper on him because he's like, his bouncy guy that has, like, potential. Shout-Texam is sucks. He sucks. I was thinking of the backup center. Let me not say he sucks. He does not move me, and I hope they don't rely on him to be the backup center. But the point we're all glossing over.

Cam Reddish? Oh. Cam Reddish. The point where glassing over is the Austin Reeves Hypertrain is leaving the fucking station. Now's the time to hop on it. He is going to be making a big league this year now that he has more responsibility and can do what he did in the second half of the last year for a full 82 games. He is going to quickly show to be.

I think probably the best contract in the NBA You can make him $14 million a year For the next four years Oh no, he's already the best contract in the year Yeah, and he's gonna continue to develop To be as a third option 18 points per game six assists One of the most efficient scores in the league

Like he was last year He had like I was watching Alex who did a video about him yesterday actually I didn't even realize he had like a 68% True Shoonooner% last year Oh wow Which doesn't make sense It's like fucking Yocus numbers

That's gonna come down But he's legit gonna be extremely efficient every year because he gets to their free to line. He makes his threes. He's a great finisher. He's can pass. He's going to be empowered to do more playmaking this year as LeBron wants to kind of keep his energy so he doesn't burn out and hurt his foot again.

He's going to be the X factor to the point where we're going to be talking about them as being not a big three because that terms exclusively used for like, you know, three stars. But in terms of you're talking about the best three players that any teams have, the Lakers are going to be up there because Austin Rees is going to make that type of joke.

Yeah, man. He's an integral. part to their success. Shout to the white boy. It's so crazy to say because that man was undrafted. Yep. And they were calling him a hellbilly Kobe. He was just another white boy meme and he actually took that, ran with it, and he's actually becoming something of himself.

There's not a word, that man could have been Mac McLung. And now he's out of here being an integral part to one of the championship favorites in the West. It's crazy. Hey man, eight year. I think we all agree. It's going to be a very great team. Please, for the love of God, LeBron, stay healthy.

bay. I don't know, but never. The Memphis Grizzlies. This is hard. I don't know. I haven't thought much about them. They're either B or A. John Marin's going to be out for the first, what,

25 games. Brandon Clark is not going to be there. They do have Marcus Smart, who's going to, like, change a lot. But having Marcus Marte for, like, a chunk of this to start the NBA season is like, man, I don't know. They're going to weather the storm job just fine.

And so we can't even, Don't even think about that. What are they going to be when he gets back? Jaron Jackson, Jr made a big step last year. We hyped the fuck out of Evan Mobley a lot. Jaron Jaron Jaron Jeteran Jackson is just a better Evan Moby right now who actually has range and has a lot of offensive skill set while being a slightly

better defensive player. We all love Desmond Bain. Obviously, John Morant, John Morant. The additional market is smart. Could this team at the conference finals next year? They could. Oh, man. They could.

Like, it's on the table. I don't think that they are. Are they making the. conference finals with John Concher Conchar as they're starting three I don't know No he's only there right now because Jaws not on this chart it'll be Desmond Bain

as a starting three Okay so it'll be Jaws Bain Jaws Smart Bain Okay Jawsmart Bain okay Yeah then Jaron Stephen Adams Remember last year Stephen Adams is hurt so they were That's why they got destroyed by the Lakers because they had no size

against the biggest team the league That's a non-shooting back court That's a non-shooting back court with John Smart I, hey, Bain and Jackson, they'll give you a lot of things. I'll put them at B. I'll put them at B. I think they have a lot of, they're outside of like Jha running the offense and pushing everything. I don't think that they have enough offensive firepower from like a second star that makes me trust them the same way that I do the calves or the Lakers and the Warriors.

And even though that the Warriors, like Steph Curry is just there, is just a guy. Exactly. It's Steph Curry. So he gets to pass. I'll put him at B. Okay. Do you, B? I kind of want to put them A because I feel like pieces will be put together towards the back half of the season, especially. But I do feel like they're going to go through a period, whether it be when Joff first comes back or when, like, defenses start to just naturally figure things out. and like really just like clog clog space in the playoffs with marcus martin and i think the non-shooting might be just the overlook looks a little bit but i'm i really sure that makes a lot if that like means a lot because you still have like two phenomenal playmakers and two

knockdown shooters no they don't they don't okay so they're not in the lakers the lakers the lakers are the best team in a they're not on that level they're on the level of the calvin warriors They're better than the hawks. They deserve much more fed it than the hawk. They can be at the top of B tier. No, I think top of B, low end of A is how I feel. Well, I'm with you. Let's put them A tier.

They deserve it. They've done it. No. For multiple years. I'm tired of losing. I'm tired of losing. Yeah, A tier is fine. I'm done.

A tier is. Okay, next up, the Miami Heat. This team is so hard to rank every year. It's a flip of a coin. Are they going to be great? Or they're going to be fucking fucking. It really doesn't matter because they can be the one seed or they can be the eight seed. We're going to look up in June and they're going to be in the Eastern Conference Final.

So let's just go ahead, put them at A, give them the respect that they deserve and move on. I like it. They're not even, they're devoid of logic. They surpass all elements of man in the way we think as people. They are just a spiritual being that is glued to the conference finals no matter what. Exactly. Every time you just want to forget about them and just be. like old wash past their prime

whatever they're just always there every single time pat riley made a deal with the devil at some point and it hasn't ran out of it oh man yeah the Milwaukee bucks wait wait wait wait wait if dame was to be traded to the

Miami you put them at S tier yeah for sure for sure definitely damn Jimmy and Bam Dame Jimmy and Bam is the best big three in the NBA right now that'd be crazy that sucks it wouldn't even be debatable i don't think like that would be two top 10 to 12 players and then one of the best

defensive players alive like the way the skills to complement each other as well as just being pure talent it would be nuts and we can trust them to always have a good supporting cast they'll just find guys on the street and give them that devil magic and then it'll be great like they would win at all and all they need the amount of dog that they would have inside of them on that team oh my goodness they would have the most dog in the league it would be unprecedented level of dog the only way only thing i could think of that had more dog was like the old four pistons it would be just immense dog exactly i don't even think we'd be ready for that much dog it would be like overwhelming the essential overload facts yeah if they went ahead and got dame i i agree with you guys

it wouldn't matter who they have around them all they just need you to be able to do is cardio and shoot a little bit in your straight yeah you know just play a little defense and let dame and jim make all the stats and we're good facts right man the Milwaukee bucks this one is going to be a little awkward I know me and Donovan love to give them credit no matter what and assume they're going to make the finals so I feel like Donovan

your first inclination is going to say S tier have you been brought down to earth are they eight now oh they're eight they eight tier what they are they're because you don't believe in there's there's plenty of this

I love that that's so mean there's plenty of reasons One, the entire court is aging. Two, Chris Middleton is hurt a lot. Three, their offense never seemed to figure it out last season. And I understand that's like a function of Chris Middleton being hurt. Yeah.

But even with Janus, even with Janus and Drew there, they were mid the whole year offensively. And it's just they have not shown to be a top team the way that Boston was. They were out there What's up? Who the fuck is A.J. Green. A.J. Green. The backup point guard. Who the fuck is AJ Green?

Oh, no. Oh, God. Is this a wider receiver from the Cincinnati Bengals of the 2010? This bench? Who? He's white?

Oh, whoa. This is a black man name. I don't even know who the hell that is. He's white? Who is this? Oh, man. Lendell. Wiginton?

Who is that? Wiggington? Wigington sounds such like a fake last name. Who the fuck are these people? That's such a fake last name. Linden. Linden is crazy, dude.

Okay. Listen, they have guys like this in the rotation. So I'm putting them at A. You look at their second unit and it's Bossman 99. It's A.J. Green. It's Wigington. Who is this? Malik Beasley, who was?

wasn't getting any run they they have a they have a decent bench they besides a j green is a decent bench oh my boy pat's to there all right yeah pat yeah pat conton boss man bobby porters it's all right i mean boss boss man was like uh boss i never had last year it was weird they their entire team is weird and that's my point is that they have not they have not clicked since 2021 and there's always been something and yonis is low key sorry in the rack of these injuries um low key so he doesn't dunk as much as used to he really he really does it i i don't feel comfortable putting them on the same in the same tier as the celtics and the nuggets i think

they have to prove themselves again to get back in that tier this year damn i'm okay with that what about you ma i mean i disagree i think it's just a slight overreaction like you guys understood why exactly like they were not like hitting all on all cylinders when you have like one a one B whatever you want to like slice it the second best offensive player and someone who's like so integral on every level to their offense just gone or in and out on a consistent basis of course your team's going to be funky as hell what do you see how aging green is a bucket he kind of got that thing on him god damn I apologize okay well I apologize

I just didn't know ball. I was ignorant to AJ Green. Somehow I missed him last year. Shout-allie, this man's a shooter. He'd be letting that motherfucker fly. God damn. For the audio listeners, we're looking at a chart right now

with his shots that a local, I'm guessing, Bucks Ryder put out. He shot 44 out of 105 and three-point shots, 42%. That's, they look at a shot chart.

It's all threes. He killed it from the left corner. Listen, it seems like a decent little role player. Yeah. Along with, you know, new faces, players new faces do players is funny but they do have a new head

coach it's really not none of us it wasn't because that wasn't it wasn't a thing it wasn't a thing but they do have a new head coach who's a who's a head coach right I fucking forget it's a first time head coach I forgot his name um it's your man from Toronto yeah oh really it's AJ Green's dad

yeah you Adrian Griffin yeah that's AJ Green's dad oh no Adrian Griffin my bad Adrian Griffin on the Hawks of dad yeah oh okay I didn't I was so confused I said this is his father You got logic on the bucks

That's crazy Logic on the bucks No that's interesting But yeah we'll see He's very much unknown to us We're not deep enough in the coaching weeds To know his contribution to the Toronto Raptors But we all agreed by the end of last year

That Bud had to go They need a fresh face in there We assume they're going to lose faith in him It really comes down to Chris Milton's health everything that Donovan said was completely valid and the only reason any of that matters is if Chris Milton's out if he says healthy again and gets back to what he looked like in the playoffs last year which is a pretty good approximation of himself

they'll be fine but it's a big effort this point he gets hurt a lot A is fine just because of health yeah I agree with Donovan that at this point we all know they have Esther ceiling but we just got to see it happen and see it click to believe it exactly S to you have to be without a shadow of a doubt going to be a great team Just be on the floor, Chris, and I'm putting you on S.

All right. A, here it is. We want this next team. The Minnesota Timberwolves. Ooh, man. I'm kind of, I'm kind of weird from them. Listen, there's been so much fucking Anthony Edwards propaganda on the time in the last two weeks. Everybody has decided that he's Luca and he's going to be the face elite next.

Folks. And I don't know why. I don't know why. It's because he's cool. And I think he's great, too. but people are acting he's already a top 10 player which is just like sloppy topy I'll tell you why man

they went ahead they're giving him the meanness slop they have he has a ton of meat munches bro hey he's cool as hell or is cool bro he's from Atlanta so automatically you just get a plus 10 and cool points dude his play style you just naturally gravitate toward

just like his personality bro he's not playing fair this year tell me yeah he just what does that even mean he's not coming fair he comes down to the fact he's handsome and he plays like Kobe in the very He's not even handsome. He looks like Frankenstein to be, bro, to be honest with me. Oh, dang.

But I just saw I just saw a one-to-one highlight split screen of MJ and Anthony Edwardsbro. They're acting like he went on he, they're acting like he went on a what, 2021 Luca-esque run to the NBA

You would have thought he made the conference finals. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Like, I agree though, but I agree he's going to be great at here. This whole face of the league shit. I'm like relaxed. But I, okay, if you're going off in the fact that he's going to be charismatic plus really good, that's what you need to be faced.

I get it. But I think that requires you be one of the best players in the world. And like, I need to see another step first before I think he's going to be like on that Luca, Yonnis' Jokitz level. But I say, I don't know what to say. Another year of development from him, he's going to be a legit, legit star.

Jayne McDaniels is the most underrated player in the NBA. Another year development from him. Supposedly he grew a little bit too. He's like 6-11 now. He is. Holy shit. That's a gigantic team. can go bear another year to gel

if they ever gel maybe it's a note but I think they'll be a decent few next year bro what is this picture that DeKil just pulled up meat munching that's crazy man we're going to say the honor and love that

I want to put them in I want to put them in C I will put them in B listen I didn't think that they were going to be great last year either and the same problem that they have what they have is not something that can be fixed with just like an offseason of work and jelling.

They have a fundamental problem in the way that their roster is constructed. And if you have Kat and Gobert as you're starting, as your four and your five, your defense is going to be weird. And like the spacing like Ant was saying in the beginning of the year, that's still going to be there, in my opinion, at the start of this year because Kat missed 50 games. They still haven't had time to figure a lot of it out. I don't think they're going to be that good. I think Ant's going to be really good,

and he's going to figure out a way to score more points. But as a team, I don't see the upside in them. I think the upside is, well, one, Gobert was wild game over hated last year. He wasn't like people act like he fell off and became like Zubak. It wasn't really the reality. One suspicion was Mike Colleen got there

and he had a point where he could gel with and notice had thrown logs. He was fine. Again, it wasn't a great fit, but he was fine. we know aunt's going to be great we know colin is going to be there and be solid and facilitate gobert on offense we know jama ganyl is going to be one of the best wing defenders in the NBA

it comes down to can cat be a useful for and learn how to play that way i don't know if i'm going to predict that either but it wouldn't be entirely shocking at that part it wouldn't be like no it's possible you did the same thing last year and you talked yourself into them and i think i hate them i can mean me a little bit but i didn't like them all that too

and i still don't i'm not putting them in a tier people were like oh they're gonna be the three seed fuck out of here but they could be decent like if you want to put them in bemo i'll let it happen oh man what do you want to do it feels nasty because i'm just like fundamentally like the math is not mathing right now bro players who can do a lot of positive things on the court but together they are negative so for that i have to put them at see you know you're right let me stop let me not let this fucking crazy propaganda about this man sway me they're a seat here team Let's go.

I almost let the ant propaganda sway me, but it's not going to happen today. Let's go. That man is not my goat. Okay, so let's see the Pelicans. Oh, man. Ooh, B or C. It just depends on how you feel about Zion.

That's literally it. Yeah. What's more likely? Zion playing 60 games or Zion playing 45? You know, it's really easy to, like, if we'd be like, yeah, to play 60 yet. So it's got to be that. But that's not necessarily how things work.

Like, is it a small sample size still? Well, not really three seasons. But you know, four seasons. Let me not say that. Oh,

it is four seasons. Yeah. Yeah, and he's been healthy for one of them, relatively. Damn. And I just, it just feels so lazy to be like he's going to get hurt again.

But yeah. The good chance to get hurt again. Oh. Yeah. I mean, I don't even think it is lazy. Just going by like what has been done and what he's like produced, you know? But at the end of day,

like, in my mind, just like I'm in visiting some like 2K storyline or whatever is I'm going to go ahead and have a monster year blah blah and they could peak like peak pelicans it could be like a tier peak pelicans could be a tier worst worst case C tier my only thing is for him to continue to get hurt every year is going to mean that he is one of the most injury prone stars in the history of the NBA he's Greg Oden he's in that echelon of biggest what ifs if it happens again and that just doesn't happen a lot

I almost like, maybe it's just the Joelle and B precedent, like swaying me. But typically with modern medicine and sports science, they figure it out and can get to a point where it's always a lingering issue, but it's not like 20 games every season. So I don't want to predict that he's going to be one of the greatest injury flops of all time. You know what I mean? Like the odds of that are low. Can I give you a counterpoint? Sure. It's your podcast too.

The Los Angeles Clippers exist. And so the same. The same reason why we dropped them from like their A potential to be, I think the same thing applies to the Pelicans because their entire success revolves on whether or not Zion is there. And in the four years that he's been there, like you said, he has only played over 50 games like one time. So I just- And he hasn't had a single playoff run. I can't trust him. Now, listen, he's going to be fire for like two months.

He's going to be great. but there's the other six months of the season he's probably going to be on the bench and some crazy outfit so okay so they have to be pushed down a tear for injury well let's say the same as the clippers but what does that mean because like they could be a if they're healthy does that mean they get pushed to b or is it b to c because like if they were healthy zion ingrown cj is like a crazy combination that's a great combination and if they were healthy i think they would be i i still want to say say like b because i have to see it long term you know I don't feel comfortable.

I feel comfortable. They're a playoff team. They're a playoff team, and they're in, like, not a terrible playoff team either, you know? Okay, answer to me this, though. They're unique, though, because the Clippers have two stars always get hurt. That's why we lower them because, like, they're fucked. Neither one guy says healthy. If Zahn gets hurt again, they still have Ingram and CJ, they can still be a decent team,

that gives them a higher floor than the Clippers have, I think? So does that mean they should drop a little bit less, no what I mean? I think that's why they should. They should be C. They, last season, when Zion was hurt for a majority of the season, they finished 42 and 40, were the nine seed in the West, lost at home in the playing game to the Thunder. I don't see a way where we can say, oh, yeah, a Pelican team that doesn't have Zion is still a capable team. Because even the Clippers who had all the injury stuff, they were still out of the playing.

They were still fifth in the West. And so we I want to give them a little bit more credit than the pelicans Okay, I'm fine and see it makes sense Mo do you want to go see sure I ain't gonna go to death I want to say B but sure yeah if we're just being consistent at this point to wait and see if I can do it. That's fine Cool the New York Knicks B They are they are as solid of a B tier team as they're I agree I don't think we should talk about it I think there's be as fuck Well, listen, we'll wait and see

We'll wait and see Yeah, there's no chance They're going to A, no chance they're going to C They're extremely B You tell me RG they're a high floor Low-sailing team And I am happy Canadian RJ's not going to make that leap

Hey man, next team Next team Okay, well now we're on to a very interesting one The Oklahoma City Thunder This team is so polarizing Guys, so polarizing, bro We have to put them in B We have to put them in B

we have with it we have to put them in B they're going to be the Pacers the last year they're going to be so good they're going to be so good listen man he's passionate as fuck mo let's give it to him but he's he's dealt with a lot can we do it give a B thank you why are they going to be so good because the people have to understand your knowledge I understand it because you had a whole conversation with your man yeah yeah yeah yeah they need to hear you listen

the thunder last season were a game under 500 She was amazing this next season. She's going to be amazing still. Josh Giddy is going to be better. Jaden Williams is going to be better. And they played the whole season without a center. And now their center is going to be Chet Holmgren, who at the very least is going to be blocking shots

providing some type of room protection that they did not have at all. They are going to be fantastic. And even without all of that, they were still one of the better defenses in the league. and now you add this like super versatile 7-4 guy who can create a little bit offensively can shot block with the best of them that is exactly what they need to take their defense to the next level and if you're able to get an offensive leap from two of the three guys in your starting lineup and get a major defensive piece back you're going to be really really freaking good like

yo the thunder the thunder are going to be nice they're going to be nice and they're going to be in the playoffs and so yes i'm putting them at beat i agree jay is on the path to being a top 10 player in this league and minimum he's in the top 15 or so if he's rejecting forward he's a true superstar josh giddy i think is on the path to being a low-level all-star truly one of the most special passers in the league surprisingly good score can hold his own on defense that alone is an incredible backport that complements each other should be well exactly jane lew Williams burst on the scene last year i don't know who i feel about it yet i'm not decided a lot of people think that he's going to also be like pushing low-level all-star as he gets into his prime

maybe that's not next year maybe next year he's just a really high-level starter but then there's also chad homegrin we just said could be the best defensive player in the league one day gives you that stretch ability i say all the same like you said three players could be all-stars very realistically and they're all do it in a way that is different so they don't step on each other so they could all make that leap and they can be looking at like three and a half four all-star level players but then the next year exactly man exactly beat here the ceiling's just ridiculous like they got to be beat because they have the ceiling to be blossoming into like the next contender pretty soon wow man that's so crazy to say and think

about because like everything has been done the right way this is a masterful rebuild they still have a boatload of pigs and eventually they're going to have to make a move I don't know what that move is going to be for maybe they're going to have to overpay because like of the market and how things naturally go but uh man yeah I can Ruth, just about everything that you guys have said, Josh Giddy has, like, proved me, I don't want to say it wrong, but he's like, no, you hated him.

Steadily, I didn't hate him. He steadily improved. He steadily improved for sure. You know, and, uh, Chet Holmgren, he was what on your list on him? Like 15, 16 or something like that. Yeah, I put it about this thing. We'll see. We'll see. Yeah, but you know, like, yeah, but, you know,

yeah, bro. I like it. I like it. This next team is also another interesting one. Where are we putting the magic? Because they also have a pretty great young core that's like sneakily about to be competitive pretty soon. Oh, man. They're at C. They feel like the thunder from last season.

Okay. But even then, but even then, like, nobody on that team, I don't think anybody on that team is going to be as good as She was last season. And like, they, but they do have a lot of really good pieces. Yeah. Pilo's not going to be, like, all the NBA that Kay was. But it's because he's way younger. But, like, he's going to make that leap towards, like, next season.

you're going to be like, oh, maybe the following year, this guy's going to be an all-star. Yeah. And Franz Wagner's also coming on the same timeline. He's incredible. Wendellargetter incredibly underrated. They've got to figure out that back court. Is Anthony Black going to be the answer?

Cole and Markell. They've got a lot of guys that are good, but not great. John Suggs, who they really have as a thir-fing shooting guard on this list. Terrible death chart. It's a terrible death chart. But they have a lot of pieces that, like you said, they're not going to be ready to be, like, making that thunder-type leave. But they're not going to be D or F, I don't think.

yeah exactly yeah they're solid to be honest with you yeah like you said actually you're right they're not going to make that thunder type leave i think they're on the same trajectory as as o kc last season i think there are a lot to be in the plan last season towards the end of the year a lot to be in the playing there's a lot of teams but they'll be that mixed for sure but last season they're phenomenal last season towards the end of the season actually or back half the season my bad yeah they have like a top 10 defense for a lot of the year last year people didn't even realize it Yeah, exactly. And it's easy to fly by off your head when, like, you know, when you think of their land of magic, you're like, oh, Paulo, nice, you know, but they actually have the most underrated player in the NBA, in my opinion, in Franz Wagner. Fair.

The actual best contract in the NBA, again, in my opinion, Wendell Carter Jr. Markle Fultz has, like, resurrected his career and all that. They play a entertaining style of basketball that is actually conducive of, like, positive things on the basketball. I don't know they just have a lot of good things good vibes going on over there and no spoiler out on them this is their time to go ahead and surprise people and be in a playing team they need a consolidation trade real bad though like they just have too many

guys that are solid and they got to figure out who they're going to roll with and really build around because last year they were shit because they had a lot of guys and no real identity like they had no spacing because like Pallow couldn't make a 3 to save his life but he was also like clearly show the signs of being unstoppable finisher at the rim

Franz was Franz really good like It was just a conglomeration of talent that really had no identity. So they have to figure out how they're going to play. But once they do that, I think they have a really high-scaling going forward in the future. And I think what's going to be that needle mover for them is when they finally, of course, like decide what the fuck they don't want to do at the guard position. They did go ahead and draft Dwan Howard's son. Jet Howard, yeah.

But, yeah, Jed Howard. And I saw him play in person. He's actually nice. And you do a lot of things. and I think he's like he should be like the future two guard of that team but more so like you know like that's nice but you really need someone again like you need another playmaker on this team trade for day yeah that would be nasty as hell damn they ain't went in shit immediately but that would be so fun to make that call I mean I put them in the C tier it's keep

moving see we're almost hour and a half into this we got like 17s left god damn we're in a long episode as always yeah next up the Philadelphia Elfie is 76ers. Y'all can handle that. I don't even, I don't even feel like talking about this mess. They have Joel and Bede. Is James Hart going to be there? Like, how do we even talk about them?

He won't. He won't. He won't be there. Yeah. Must have him an F. No, they have Joel and B., let's stop. They have Joel B. Because we don't know what the teams look like.

Until further notice, they don't have a team. It doesn't matter what the team. As long as they have Joelle M. Bid and Tyrese M. Conventant NBA players there, they're going to be an okay NBA team. No, you're right. You're right. minimum. Of course you're right, but we can't realistically write them because we don't know if James Hardin's

going to be there, so. It doesn't matter if he's there or not though. Yes, it does. No, it doesn't. You're still going to put them at B. Donovan. If James Hardin was committed to being over there, you wouldn't put them in the A tier. Most actually right. Whether or not Hardin is there doesn't really

move me in terms of like their championship aspirations and Maxie can hold down the fort in the regular season. Most actually, right, should we put Should we just put them in B? Go ahead. I just means because we don't know. Like, what if they trade him for Norm Powell and like fucking Terrence man?

That doesn't move the needle. There's still B. Like they're still. No, they'd be worse. They'd be ass. No, they'd play an inspiring ball of basketball similar to what they did without Ben Simmons, that entire first half of the season or whatever.

The spacing is going to be nice. You know, like it's. They also have Nick Nurse as the Kurt as the as the coach. I forget about that. I feel so sorry. They're going to be so inspired to win 45 games a year, great. Exactly.

That's a B team. Whatever. Next team, the Phoenix Suns. We'll put them in A just off of talent, but. I was going to, this is the, of the team we can, there's an argument for S-tier. Oh, no. I don't think, I don't, an argument for S-T, I don't think so. Why not?

They have Katie and Booker insane. The Beal thing I know is like weird, but. he's a better player than Chris Paul at this point it's going to be a strange fit to figure out books and handle more playmaking duties be able to be more plenary than he was before we'll see if he's capable of that DeAndre jordan d'angra eight is still there

the new coach that I think could help him because he doesn't fucking hate him like Monty Williams did who's the coach again uh Frank Vogel oh nice the big man whisperer he gets a lot out of defensive bigs yeah true there's a world where they're the best the best or second best team in the west

I think this fit This fit is just going to be too nasty And to have To have book Who is bucket getter KD High level bucket getter Beal bucket getter

And but nobody Their only point guard Was campaign and they shipped him away Who is running point They said that Bill's going to run point I don't It doesn't move I don't know

They say that because he's going to defend point guards but in terms of who's not the ball in their hands radius let me Booker and Katie it still doesn't move if Katie's the listen Katie's the point guard even if he's like

the secondary playmaker he's not the point guard you know that I understand I am not moved by them to put them in S tier I think that that is

a very big stretch if you want to put them in A fine I for sure hey okay cool they are not as good as the Celtics they are not as good

as the Nuggets I think again we're projecting I think there's a world where things click and they are that good it's not guaranteed because like you said we all know there's problems okay well whatever it's fine nope a tier does you agree yeah a tier that's too much respect i'm skin if i'm sure there's a world you're right i'll put this way i don't know for sure if they're going to be great but if i'm mapping it out

and i'm actually if i was going game by game predicting how good these things are going to be I think it's more likely that things click for them than not. And I think they're going to, I think they'll be like the second season of West probably. Ah, second C is, man. They're going to be great. I'm telling you. Like, they have so much talent that it's a weird fit because it's redundant,

but they're not like, it's not like when you, it's not a wrestling to the Lakers. It's not horrific. It can work. Yeah, exactly. Because I think like these types of players really de-book and play alongside any type of player in the entire of the same.

same for KD as well and Bradley Biel you assume that he can do the same thing as well like they've developed into pretty good secondary and really good like trituary um ball handlers as well so yeah if you're going to have a redundant skill set you want it to be three level scores that can succeed on or off ball you can't have too many of those the problem is you could say that because they have that many they don't have a playmaker which is very important like you've seen with the Celtics the Celtics still make the conference finals every year I think this is a very comfortable level of team Yeah, I would be fine with this

But I'm not gonna if you guys don't know wait and see it it's fine it's okay I'm fine with A I'm fine with A I'm fine with A DeAndre A need to prove it to me man You can't let Jock long day I'll play you Like that cannot continue to have it bro He had a coach that fucking hated him verbally To the entire world he made it clear he did not rock with this guy He did not want to want to see

It was a very poor situation for John Drayton to succeed There's a reason There's probably a reason why Monty didn't rock with with him. Yeah, because Monty wants, I stand with Monty. I stand with Monty. The Andreine has had plenty of red flags. He wants his daughter to marry. If he doesn't think that kid is worth leaving his steps on, he's not playing him. This dude, DeAndre Ayn said way back before he was even drafted, I believe, or maybe he was right after he was drafted. One of his main goals is to get that second contract in the NBA, and he went

ahead and that. That is an immediate red flag for any player in the NBA, bro. That's just something you don't say. And if you do say it, it just shows how to play you are. your motives and what's really important to you at the end of the day not to say that like, yo, like he doesn't care about winning

but it's like he's on cruise control now. He made it. You know that sounds like to me, it sounds like in the pre-jraft process

where people were like Anthony Edwards doesn't love basketball. He doesn't know that's different. Anthony Edwards never verbally said like yell like you know my main focus is

in that second contract and you're going to get to the back regardless. You're in the NBA. You're the number one you're the number one overall pick. What are you talking about?

Oh, I'm trying to get to the second. second how you're gonna get it regardless like what are you talking what he means if he wants to a lot of players have short careers because it's hard to make it in the league and he's focused on making it and doing the hardest part which is actually proving you belong in the league it's not that crazy he thinks that it's charming to to walk around and act like he's Peyton Pritchard and be like oh I'm trying to get to relax you're gonna get the deal you're gonna be fine yeah I'm mad at him for being humble whatever it's that him wanting to be a power for it and

also this stuff earlier in his career it's just like bro like what are we doing right now He's so over-hated. All right. Next team. The Portland Trailblazers. Man, fuck this team. Can they be F? Yes.

Yes, they can. I hate this team. Trey damn already. Jesus Christ. They can. Put him there. Let's keep him moving. I don't even want to talk about it.

Yeah, shot at the Scoot, though. True. Yeah, good for Scoot. This team sucks. Where we're from the Kings? B. B. Yeah, it's a B-S team.

Wow. What are you going to say, A? I was going to say, tier A because they were trying to make a noise, but... No, they weren't. They were a fake contender. They were really good in the regular season. Light the beam! The Warriors were mid-lap year and they couldn't get through them. The Lakers would have dusted them. The fucking kings were always fools gold. They're led by Sabonis.

They're not going to win the playoffs. Led by Sabonis. You really, you finally, you finally said that. I love it. I finally said their best player is mid. No, no, no. You finally said that because of the type of their best player and all that like they're just like never going to be upper x-lone yeah for sure i love fox oh no i mean i say that i don't deserve to say that because i give him a lot i like fox it's cool i just don't care because he's his writing maze the bonus and i just don't think that i seems ever going to have the type of players needed to win in the playoff well same tier as the

indiana paces interesting listen listen listen fully healthy and the next year you ask me who's going to in the playoff series, I might not pick the kings between them, too. Oh, that's tough. Tyree's better. That's all I'll say. Where are we putting this first? We'll put them in deep tier. Why?

Why do they deserve it over the piston? The strictly Wemby? Yeah, I don't think they deserve it. Yeah, to be honest, I think they should be F tier. I don't think they deserve to be on the scene, too. My problem is so just the Pistons don't deserve F tier, so I'm comparing that to them. Why are the Spurs in a different situation than the Pistons? Because they have Big Vic, and every game, every game is at least going to be a spectacle.

Like, you're just going to sit down and it's going to be more fun than watching a Pistons game. They're probably in the same tier. They're probably going to be in the same tier. I'm going to enjoy watching Spurs games more than watching the Pistons. I just think we put them at D. Can we put them at D? Can we please put them at D? Put him at D.

I'm sorry that. We both want them there. This is too much hate. They're just too good and like the culture is going to be completely different. And I want to let y'all know after the show, we will be having a conversation. This is too much. This is a key. We need a team.

We need a team. This is about you. This is about Kate Gunning him. This is gone on the whole show. I can't, I can't stand for it. Second year's date and I view. You're kidding me, bro? You just hate Kay Gunning him.

Bogged on, bro. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. All right. Next team.

The Toronto. I want to put them an F for real thank you can we put they're going to be like can't have bounced that ass but I think like they're going to be can we put them in D yeah they're not terrible Z or C there's that best they're see I mean they still have Pascal Seaccom like that's the biggest thing here scowdy Barnes destined they were like they were they received last year and they lost Fred Van Bleet replace him a Dennis Schroeder they're objectively going to be a worst team facts do you believe Scottie Barnes make a big leaf and kind of fill in that creation need no not with the

or do I with how this team is constructed I think the longer that they're prolonging this the more of a detriment it'll be on the scotty barnes the top of player that you once wished or hoped that he could be now this team this team is getting blown up this season somebody is indeed yeah pascal is getting moved this year and they're going to fall off a cliff Pascal is going to well he might actually give him I think he definitely should get moved like i think he's definitely at the trade season but this man is trying to go ahead play his ass off so he can get that supermax contract

my boy i'm sorry but it's not happening oh is that when he wants to stay there yes he wants to stay i'm like fucking why why do you that's wrong with someone this the numbers bro the numbers he wants a tailor brown yeah he want if he won that 50 55 m a year bro but i don't know if messiah's washed but i generally don't know if he's washed and enough to the point to where he will continue

to sacrifice the state of his team unless he's just coming into being mid. You love this massage watch propaganda. You can say this as a stress thing. He genuinely is, bro. He hasn't done anything good over the last few years. I'm going to be with you. But at that point, every time that happens

and you're like this really good GM that the smart guy is doing dumb things, I tend to think it's ownership. I tend to think ownership probably isn't letting him blow things up. Well, that's just the conversations that we're like we've never been a part of never will be a part of unless like we hear shit

have you ever heard anything about ownership I've never have I'm not in Toronto I'm not tapped in with Toronto beat reporters though so I have no idea yeah you know and I don't know like that yeah last team last team

the jazz this is so I don't want to rank them but they could be like a C listen Walker actually really good Larry's a star now they got some interesting draft fix I'll give them back just because they showed out last season so we'll put them in C but they are they are also

just mid and I really don't want to think they're like man I think they're solid I mean I mean C is mid so I mean see that yeah I guess I do think they're mid listen they were they were eight games they were eight game or four games under 500 so mid oh like John Collins now oh Jordan Clark's a good year if you have John Collins on your team you are mid you are I hate John Collins you are going to be mid jaante George was incredible doing summer league i fucking love kiante man he's going to be the next player in line that i say taylor hendricks and kelly linnick is your bench front court that's pretty cool yeah uh i marcus is not going to skip a beat

concesses should be so much better this he's yeah concept it should be so much better that man is i kind of want to put him low nb to be to be honest that man is spight now you look at the team's in b and they're like legit like the nix are in b can't put the jazz and b thank you list. Let's evaluate. See if there's any last second moves we've got to make. Last year, all we have is the Celtics and Nuggets. Wow. That feels fair to the prediction episode.

That's who we'd probably predict to be in the finals. So that tracks. Okay. Is there any teams in this A tier that you think should get bumped up? Personally, I would really want to, I just would want to bump up the bucks because, like, if it does happen, which I'm projecting it to happen, I'd want to just, you know, be first on that.

Like, I don't think that, like, if there was, like, serious roster deconstruction or if Chris Middleton's knees were just, like, obliterated and he got Lonzo bald. No, he didn't a playoff series. He looks like he's fine. Yeah, exactly. Now, like, you know, like, I just feel like they should. I feel like they should be, yes. Did you just say somebody Michael bald?

Is that what I just heard? I said if Chris Middleton's knees have been Lonzo bald, then. Oh, Lonzo bald. Oh, that's not true. You know what? You know what, Mo? I'm with you. What?

We can bump the butts up to S just because even with all that inconsistency last season, they were still the number one seed in the east. Drew, forget about that. The offense was mid. They still got results. We have to put them up there. Yeah, and we're so colored by the fact they lost the first round. Exactly. Yonis got hurt.

Like, like, if it was other parts that were like, if it was, okay, Janus is dinged up, Drew was, like, not the same player. Brooke is, like, ass and stuff like, then it's okay. like they're starting to fall apart but it's just one player and who's just like you know needs to get it together in this one player it's just some he just happens to be integral to their success so yeah yeah okay okay is there any way you guys can be swayed for the sun to be yes that's the only other one that could possibly go up i could be swayed for the sons definitely the talent don't do it don't do it okay stay sure no no in the last year they got katy they looked incredible and you

coming up here as well as me and everybody was like this team could be the team that would be in the west we all agreed on that that like maybe they need more time but it won't be shocking if this is the team to beat and chris paul was cooked he's out of there insert bradley be a better player you're going to empower devon booker more to be that lead guard something we know he's capable of another year of katie with dealing with this team who has been that makes back for the last year in the playoffs but he still katie the bench got put together surprisingly well with a bunch of minimum guys they have a decent supporting cast of shooters their offense is i think going to be elite basically no matter what i don't

see a word is eric going on the team now or my is he is a back of two and dionj should be better i think you're going to have a solid rim protector what's preventing them from having an exterior ceiling just the depth and how fast i think they're going to be able to mesh in mold but at the end of the day if i think if i believe that they'll be able to mesh in mold by the playoffs and I should probably put them at s but at the same time I'm like how I think that

with Eric Gordon being there and him dropping people the fuck off and internationally like I'm starting to believe like yo you know what I'm saying maybe maybe I think maybe I do have a little bit too much hate for DeAndre

Aiden if he can just do the simple fucking things and if Frank Vogel's track record is proven then they should probably be yes Are you getting tricked by Eric Gordon playing like Puerto Rico in the World Cup? Is that what this is about? No, if Eric Gordon's a reason. Why are you trying to shame me?

No, if you're a reason for putting them in an S is Eric Gordon cooking for the Bahamas, then there by, there my, keep an air, I don't want him. I don't even want it. Oh, man. I mean, I was thinking about Eric Gordon and the other pieces around them, obviously, too, but Air Gordon is the forefront of that. and then of course DeAndre eating too and so like the thought of those two guys being real consistent forces and being elite

at their role makes you feel a little bit better okay well we can keep in it it's fine I can't look past the Bahamas love you to show as if that's like seriously applicable to the world's poster man since when you see that man big ass get up like that it's been a minute never mind let's stop let's stop

this set in stone for next year we'll revisit this at end the season and see what we got right See if our projections are accurate. This is what's going to happen. So be prepared to see the Celtics and the nuggets in the finals, maybe the bucks if things go well. And yeah, here we are. All right.

We just had a jarring cut because we had a technical issue and we had to redo TikTok time. So we're back a day later. You guys have noticed that in the first two hours you watch, my audio was fucking horrendous. Sorry about that. It should be fixed now. Yeah, we're good.

Let's roll. Let's do what the crayon eaters came here for. Exactly. As always, we're going to start the draft. This time, we're going to do one of the first drafts we did, run it back, and we're going to do only young players 25 and under. I need this. I need, listen, I'm so glad that we're redoing TikTok time

because I think that I sold yesterday. Oh, yeah. Nobody's ever going to see it. I get a redo. I'm here. We burn the footage, but just know I clicked the fuck out of them. So I was like, oh, should I keep it in? But I won't be selfish this time.

Let's do it. Let's wrong. So first pick, we got Mo, then me second pick, Donovan, third pick. Let's draft NBA lineups with only players 25 and under. Mo, where we're going first pick. Give me Luca Donchitz future MVP. Starting this off, starting this off the right way. Okay.

Basic, whatever, whatever, whatever. I guess I got Jason Tatum second pick. Nice. Damn it. If Moe's going to be predictable, I got to be predictable. Okay, okay. Let me see. There's honestly not a lot.

of good bigs. So you know what I'm going to do? Give me BAM out of bio. Give me BAM out of bio. Wait, he's 25? Yeah. Damn. No, A.

He's 25? Yeah. He was drafted in 2017. Are you serious? Do your research. He's 25. When he turned 26? Show me the birth of 17th.

I don't believe that shit. Oh, Ben, 26. He's 26. Liar, I told you. Do your research. You do your research. fake news blind I'm spinning everywhere that's yeah I just told you nah wow I'm not gonna lie I'm kind of embarrassed I don't know what to do you don't know about this guy is a basketball podcast

think everybody Mike these days we need more electricians all right all right still still give Jared Jackson, Jr. I still want him. Nice. And I got to get my guy. Give me Shay. Oh, that's a good pick. Okay.

I was for sure going to pick him next. Nice. Okay. Next up, there's not a lot of two guards. Give me Anthony Edwards. Oh, now he was my pick next, bro. Damn. He was my next big.

Tatum, Ant-Man duo. Say what you want. I got the hottest duo so far. That's hard. I ain't going to lie to you. Whoa. Whoa, whoa, you said the hot, you think Anthony Edwards is like that? See, help.

Everybody does. Okay, so you got, you got Tatum and you got Ant. That's such a hard combo. Go ahead. Go ahead and give me Mowbly. And we'll put them on my four or five maybe. And then at my one, go ahead. and uh...

damn don't want to go winner Isaac really messed it up picking an I'm not gonna lie yeah for so you screwed

you screwed position no scarcity yeah you fucking screw yeah you're gonna have fun with Tyler Hero go yeah

fuck you screwed me all right whatever go ahead and give me and then I'm no my aunt my bad go ahead and give me I'm gonna say it again

go ahead I know shut up man god damn it go ahead and give me Evan Mowley and then at my two and my one

I'm gonna get Tray Young and then yeah I'm gonna get Tray Young and then give me Evan Mobley this man doesn't know what he's doing Yeah

give me give me Tray Young and give me Evan Mobly He is all Crack I was crazy I want

You fucked me up with it man I had like a Tier list of what I wanted to pick Oh my goodness I know Oh my goodness Anyways y'all sold

Give me Zion Williamson He never gonna play for you He's going to be on that bench watching All right Let me Let me double this up Let me double this up

You know what Give me give me Brandon Ingram He's 25 still I think so I was going by what I was going by what the NBA said on there He'll check it Please tell me I'm not 26 Please tell me he's driving in 2016 or something

No he's 25 he's 25 Let's go You have one more week. You have a week. No, it was Jackson in 27th. Wow, that's crazy. September 2nd. One more week.

That's hilarious. Thank you. And so for the time being, give me Brandon Ingram. Okay. And then I would also like to put, hmm. I really like this guy. Give me Jalen Green. Okay.

Okay. That goes with your agenda. I like it. You know what? I got Zion at the 4. I need a stretch 5. Not a lot of great options. Give me Victor 1.

Mbenyama. This guy. You're one of those. You're one of those. Okay. You're one of those. Okay. That's cool. Coming straight star power, every position.

Listen, just know, you made that pick. I need you to know where I'm going with my pick at the end of this guy. You open the door. It's okay. It's okay. You go ahead. I'll get my guy. The door is open.

I'm going to close that shit. Give me Chet. Give me Chet at my fore. You suck. I hate you. And then at my three, give me Desmond Bain. Spacing, elite defense, menacing, bro. Y'all ain't stopping shit.

Okay. I just want you all know, y'all should be embarrassed for how good of a team I'm about to construct. Give me John Morant. Ooh, John Moran is just on the board like that. He's also not going to play for you. He got two delinquents, man. He got two delinquents and a rookie's going through a midlife crisis.

He already cut all of his hair. Dines and two, bro. You're over. Guns and buns. You are not getting played. players. Guns and buds is crazy. Guns and bun.

Listen, I saw that somewhere on Twitter. I forget who did it, but that's going to be the name of the documentary. South Carolina. Who do I want at my five? This really sucks that ban. Aiton,

Aiton, Aiton, Aton, gross. Nah, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. You know what? Put Jaron Jackson at my five. At my four, give me Palo Bancaro.

Nice. Nice. Nice. That's solid. All right. So Donovan, you opened this by saying you were glad we didn't do yesterday. It's because you sold. My man, I have good news for you. You sold again.

What are you talking about? This is not as bad. This is not as bad as yesterday for sure. So my line up is. Ingram, Palo. Oh, Dailing Green, Ingram. We're getting buckets. That's kind of nasty.

That's kind of nasty. So I got Troy Young, Luca Donchitz, Desmond, Bain. Chet and Evan Mowbly Loser Yo y'all ain't getting shit at the rim You may cave my chest in because these boys weigh 150 but other than that I'm straight All of them outside of chat are losers

I got John Morant Hard and the Edwards hard Innocent Tatum hard as fuck Zion Williamson hard as fuck Big Vic hardest as fuck Your team is fake man Your two year star players are not playing one of them he has no hair anymore

ours gone Anthony Edwards I can't say nothing about that because he's Anthony Edwards hard I got SGA I got Jalen Green got Brandon Ingram

Palo Bancaro Jerry Jackson Jr. Listen we are a young team on the rise and we can make some noise pesky 11 seed that can compete in any given night 11 come on now don't disrespect me

don't disdustive at least nine don't disagree Let's move on Alright man Next video we're gonna do I think Mo you have some funny moments to show us Yeah man Last NBA season was hysteric

It was historic and it was historically funny dude So we're gonna do with TikTok about NBA funny moments You're gonna run this hook and get this shit going Which NBA moment was funnier All right so we got Rudy Go Bates fade away you have to look at, I think it's Chamezi Metu. His immediate reaction, dude literally threw away the towel versus Dremont Green's mini-doc about the Jordan Pool Punch.

He created a mini-document about that. It's absolutely Draymond Green. It's clearly Draymond. Like, he literally tried to gas like the entire NBA into thinking that he was the victim for sleeping Jordan Pool. Like, come on now. He had a media rollout to be the one, he had a media rollout to be the sympathetic figure in an assault that he committed.

It is. It's going to have been a simple tweet. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. I just looked up one day and my fist was on his face. It just happened. He was just so punchable. I had to do it.

Honestly, if you or me, you would do the same. And he got that out quick, too. That was fast. That clutching of the machine does not slow down. I know, bro. But y'all underrated the Rudy Gobert fade away. When have you ever seen Rudy ever do this on an NBA court, bro? in the NBA, never

do through in the towel throughout the towel literally teammates like other teams like this everyone's frustrated here's the thing I would I would try and like

make a case for Rudy but he's Rudy Gober and he does goofy stuff all the time so it's just like a right it's just another night for Rudy Gober right

there's nothing special about this honestly it's funny I agree but this Dremont moment might be the funniest the last decade he knocked Jordan Poole the fuck out

and went on a press tour about it that's ridiculous yeah listen that's amazing marketing it's amazing marketing it's wild I don't know himself like himself the podcast

I don't know what he was trying to do but to try and spin the narrative like that kind of have to give him credit Generation manipulator it's hilarious if you put it in the frame you put it in the framework of this is a podcast rollout that's fucking hysterical

you knock your teammate out to launch a media career I can't believe this is like this aired can't believe that he forced a T&T producers do this bro this is hilarious no fact did Rich Paul tell him to do this is this a club sports production if so I don't know what happens because we're talking about it right now

yep that's true that what's the next next up we got next up we got the infamous Anthony Edwards interview versus LeBron's history versus LeBron's tweet and this for context for context this did for context this Anthony Edwards moment he was interviewed about the potential their future lineup or their future uh damn my brain is not working today bro and Isaac is dying my brain is not working right now and

Isaac is dying. Let me lock the fucking. You even said that twice. I know. I said that twice and then my mind just like skip parts of the sense that I'll try to fit in. There's so many cuts in this audio. I'm not cutting shit. So for context in this, Janen.

So for context, I said Jaden again. So for context in this, God damn it, bro. Give me time. Oh my God. We're never going to get to these pictures. Oh, my goodness. Go ahead. All right.

We're ready. So for context for this Anthony Edwards interview, they were talking about their potential matchup against Kevin Durant. And this was his reaction. They got Katie, but we got Jada McDaniels versus LeBron's. Maybe it's me tweet when they didn't end up getting Kyrie Irving Traders to Lakers. It's easily LeBron. Like, if you're Anthony Edwards, what else are you supposed to say?

Right. Like, you just have to have confidence in your team. LeBron, this at 4.30 in the afternoon, this man just had to be in his house. Just, just palm on face. Just, oh, my gosh. What is going on? Is it me? Is it my fault?

Like, it just sounds so ridiculous. No, this is hilarious. LeBron thinks he's in, like, an R&B video or something. He's on his knees just fucking falling apart. No. He's singing in the rain. You know, that video, whatever, he didn't get the foul into the game when they lost, and he fell to his knees, hands on his head. Same energy.

Same exact energy. He's dramatic as hell. It's hilarious. Yeah, he's 37 tweeting like this. What are you doing, man? There's probably lunchtime with their kids. You got to fucking pick up Bronny from school. What are you doing?

It's hilarious. He's like an hour and a half away from going to bed. That is true. That is true, bro. It has to be maybe it's me because Jay and McDaniels actually did do his shit when they went ahead and played Katie the next game because he was like, I think. Oh, Katie was like 0 for 6, 0 for 7. while Jeremy Dan was guarding himself.

Anthony had just made a simple observation. He just was real. LeBron was incredibly dramatic. It was hilarious. Facts. All right, what's next? I don't know you tell me. We got Dremont Green

Crip walking on Sabonis' chest versus Julius' son, Julius Randall's son crying at the All-Star game because this man's dad couldn't hit threes. Hey, man. No, it's Julius Randall. What? I think Dremont did a clean sweep.

He stomped on Subonis's chest. When was the last time we seen someone do that, dog? Stomping on a chest like that. Clear as day. I don't think, I don't, when I see that, that's not, that's not like funny. That's just like, yo, you're just like wild, right? You're just miraculous. Julius Randall literally missed so much that his child was, this is a core memory for his son now.

His child forever is going to remember like, oh my gosh, my dad missed so much at the two-point contest. You embarrassed our family. I don't think you realize this is the season defined by- Picture of the kid crying. Yeah. Having a mental breakdown, bro. This season is defined by Draymond Green starting the season with an assault and finishing it with an assault. That's hilarious.

Missing so much. He can't stop army people. You don't know. If you just saw this picture of this kid, you would think that, like, he either got grounded. He got his iPad taken away, right? Something like awful happened. Something traumatic happened. And it's literally just Julius Randall bricking for two minutes straight.

I put this on my life. And this is the reaction. I can't. Bonus looks like a Simpsons character. Bro. I just, dope. I put this on my life. We can make an entire tearless video based off of Dremont Green Fowls.

This is ridiculous. Bro, he's a serial punch. He's a serial assaulter. He has bodies. Yeah, bro. If he was not in the NBA, he would guarantee be in prison. How'd he go that far? He went, bro.

This shit is serious. That's hilarious. I'm taking Randallson crying. That's funny. What's next? Yeah. We got, this is from the exact same game. Patrick Beverly showing the ref a missed Paul in the game with the camera, bro.

A DSLR versus the last. LeBron turning it to Randy Orton after him is called. Oh, this is a hard one. This is a hard one. This is a generational game, bro. Quality of your game was great. Memes are fantastic. It's got to be LeBron, though, right?

Like, that's the most, again, we're going back to the tweet, peak dramatic man. Yeah. I don't know, because Patrick Bever's moment is memeable for days, years. Your kids, kids will use this. I mean, so is bronze. So is bronze. I think Pat Bev's moment was really, that's honestly, like, the right. thing to do like there's a whole there's a whole bunch of people with like it was a clear foul it was a

clear foul and so you just you're trying to show people up what lebron did that was one of the most seven-year-old performances i've ever seen in my life jumping literally falling out on the stand up lebron stand up you are a grown get off your knees you are a grown man what is happening right now what is happening no this is uh lebron is one of the funniest athletes of all time in terms of the moments he's had. This is top tiered LeBron. That's saying something. I want to watch this.

I'm going to my lap time. I'm watching this for myself. This might be funnier than yabadabadoo old name. This might be funny than that. No, dude, honestly, we did. Honest to God, we're going to do a LeBron meme tier list soon. Oh, that's it. Yeah, absolutely.

I have to the first day out one. Right, he's hilarious. Oh, bro. Sorry. What's the next? He's been doing with Bart Simpson. Oh, yeah Oh, God, bro

Yeah, we're doing that next week Get ready to see a LeBron meme cheerless Yeah, this is going to be amazing All right, what's next? Yeah, I'm going to go to LeBron I'm watching it right now This is crazy Dude, he's spazzing on

Have you ever seen Prime Randy Orton before And how he's like sizzling up Raymond being saying to decimate someone's life He did the same shit Except the only thing is He got let down and he got decimated Oh my goodness What's next?

Yeah. All right. Next up, we got Austin Reeves getting, or Austin Rivers getting jumped by a bunch of scrubs versus Thomas Bryant screaming for the ball before he passes Creole Jabar. I knew LeBron was funny. Every single one of these moments has something to do in LeBron.

This is crazy. Thomas Bryant's for sure a comedian for this. But Austin Rivers got slats. Boots. Mo Bamba. that man ass and Jalen Suggs literally threw that man across the floor he got strays from bench players bro

his eyes were closed knocked out on an NBA court and we didn't acknowledge it as a culture that's hysterical it's ridiculous bro it's ridiculous it has to be that good job y'all we're talking about Jemong Green's assaults we let

Mo Wagner slide way too easy Straight colorism Yeah, bro And where's Austin River's Teammates at too, bro? He just got, Where's Anthony, man? Where's Katz?

Nobody liked each other On that team. Nobody liked each other. They're all in the back of the bench Going, World Star Yeah, Anthony Elwood's definitely doing like this.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. It's got to be that. Yeah, bro. It's funny. All right. Next up. We got Shannon Sharp beefing with the entire Memphis Grizzlies, including John Morant's dad versus Connor McGregor sending the Miami Heat mascot to the ER after a skit. Okay, so sending a mascot to the ER is a hilarious thing to do.

I'll say that first. But this picture alone of Shannon Sharp looking mad, sassy, looking back, it's got to be that. He looked like someone fucked him up for life, bro. He's like someone tried his life. I don't know what that look cost of zero. I'm a huge, huge fan of Shannon Sharp. But to glaze LeBron this much that you would fight the Memphis Grizzlies 1 on 15 is insane. That's crazy.

Please. What are you doing? He is a top line commander of the LeBron D.Riding community. And I salute. No one will ever look up, look Stephen Adams in the eyes like this, bro. ever. Are you kidding me? The funniest part, he had no shame. Look at his face. He would do it again.

Oh, yeah. And I would pick him in the fight, though. He's keeping Dylan Brooks. He's killing Dylan Brooks. That's a murder. He's crushed dead like a melon. Shannon Shepers like that. No, those are biceps that took hits from Ray Lewis.

Dillen Brooks is doing nothing to him. That is true. Oh, man. He's Lee Shannon. I like that. Next up, we got Grant Williams saying, I'm going to make both free throws, proceeding to miss both versus Jericho Sims lame ass dunk contest when he just opened up the letter and he ripped the 50 end letter in half, bro.

I think I see Grant Williams, right? It has to be grand Williams. The weak dunked and dunk contest, the dunk contest has been dead for years. We've seen a whole bunch of lame drunks. This is just funny. This is just funny. I will say he was especially weak that she was asked There's been worse than Jericho since

At least he made the dunk There's been there's some guys who can't make it But to have an to have an infographic like this With your quote on it saying I'm gonna make both and then video evidence of you missing both You are not him Causing you to lose the game too at that That's tough man. Yeah, you can't escape that It's not even the fact that he's not the fact that he missed both

It's a confidence in which he declared he He'd make both. He was so sure. That right there. That right there. Set their head coach off. After this, I never seen, I swear, I felt like I never seen Grant Williams play. I don't know, bro.

Why are you laughing like that? He said to Dallas the next business day. We never seen him play for the Celtics again, bro. Just on that bench, straight up. Yeah, that's the moment where Grant Williams knew. This coach is not Ayme Adoka. He's not going to run me 40 minutes. a game.

All right, that's the end of that one. That was a great segment. The next thing we're going to do, we're going to do something we haven't done a while. An NBA redraft. This time we're going to do the 22 draft class. This is going to be good. Yeah, it'll be great.

So, yeah, Yonahogos, we're going to redraft 1 through 10. It's going to be fantastic. Let's redraft the 22 NBA draft class. First pick, we're still going Palo, right? No brainer. He didn't go in nowhere, bro. Yeah, still by far and away, I believe he will continue to be the best player in this draft

and the only player who's franchise tag worthy. Yeah, I'll be, at this point, I'll be shocked if Palo doesn't become a top 30 player in the league. There's nobody else in draft class I can say that for it. It says, bro. This man is already on Team USA. He's already representative of the country. He's the first big in the draft.

Facts, bro. The last person we saw it be Team USA after the rookie year was Anthony Davis. That's pretty good company to be in. Facts, yeah. Yeah. I should have Walker Kessler's there too. yeah but he's not he's not really playing as big of a part yeah number two are we still when chat home grin or do we got to give somebody else credit i think we probably should go

chet still because no one has seen him play and whenever he has played he looks elite supreme so might have yeah yeah i'll still give chet that like honor of being the second pick in the draft we all expect chet to be really good this year so we can keep him there yeah if we're projecting Ford and if you thought he'd be the second pick before last draft and you thought that was fair no reason to think otherwise now. Nothing changed. Thanks. Number three though, we're not going to Barney Smith, Jr.

I'll go ahead and say that. Hell no. What? What? Are we going J-Dubb? For the Houston Rockets, I might want to go Kagan. Well, actually, yeah, I think we should go Dave. He's a better player. He's a better player. It could be, it could be Jaden Ivy. He looked pretty

promising? No, not next to Jaling Green. Can't do that. He's not a natural playmaker. Can't do that. You're asking for basketball suicide. I would still take J-Dub. Yeah. You take J-Dub over him? Yeah. I guess the only concern would be he's older. Do you think he has just as high of his healing? Or do you think he was so good

because he's old? It's fine. Yeah, I think he's okay. Yeah, that and imagining the pairing of Sang-goon and J-dub along with J-Dade is, it's more there's more of a connection there. Okay, we'll go J-dub at 3. At four, this is where it's interesting. You could go Jabari Smith. There's still reason to believe he'll be good.

But Keegan Murray and Jaden Ivy were probably better last year. Give me Keegan Murray still. There's no points to draft. There's no point to Jaden Ivy. I mean, that is a King's thing to do because they do, they tend to draft too many point guards. It wouldn't surprise me. Are we focusing on the team or just because like,

both? Both. I think both. Okay. Yeah, I guess, you know, Sacramento is very happy with Keegan and Murray, but I think Ivy. and Jabari Smith have a higher ceiling? Yeah, that is true.

But what are they looking for? Maybe it is. They took Kagan Murray because they were like, we need somebody to come in here right now, contribute. Kegan Murray, 100% did that. And so I think that he's perfectly fine at four. He's very pro-ready.

And I don't think that there's anything wrong with being able to step in right now, even if you're like overall ceiling isn't like 100%. He's still very, very valuable. Facts. that's what brings yeah he that's the value that they're looking for and he provides that the most out of compared to jaden ivy and also keegan murray okay that's fair five do they still go do we still have the toy picking jaden ivy or is there jubari smith junior

shade and sharp is walker kessler getting in the mix yet he's he's coming up soon or is it better than matherin you got to be in that mix too i'm picking all those guys over benedick matherin i think same here i would take I think Jabari could go here I think Jabari still has a really high ceiling It's a better fit in my opinion With with Cade Like listen Jaden Ivy is good

And I'm a fan of his But that two ballhandler situation Is gonna be kind of weird They also added another semi You know Ballhander playmaker and Asar this year So yeah let's add Javari Smith to that core I think that would be a very very interesting core

Yeah I think it's a good spot for Jabari Yeah A bunch of mid big men except for Duren I guess it fits Number six Indiana I think this is a Walker Kessler fit

Hell no it's not They already have Miles Sturney It feels like he's solidified Just got extended It's still gonna be Bennett Are we can't do too much This is more about How good the players are than the teams

We're focusing too much of the teams Even then I'm still taking a bed of it He's too much of a I think he's a better fellow alongside Tyrese He's that aggressive score of me I would take Walker I would take Walker over Benedict Wow, you're saying.

I'm picking Jayden Ivy for both of them. Did Jayden Navvy go here? No. For this Pacers, no. Shaden Sharp? I'm, I'm, that moves me. That moves me. That moves me.

It would either be Walker Castle or Sadian Sharp in this. Y'all are tweaking. Y'all are tweaking. And I think, but I think I love Benedict Mathur. I don't love him. I just like, I just like what they have going on in the Pacers. Next. You saw a, listen, you saw the first.

first two weeks of the season and you're like hey this guy's him and then after that you stop watching the paces i would take i would take walk kester i think his defense at his defense is impeccable and it adds a whole lot to a team especially when your league guard is tyrese and he's going to let a lot of people blow by him because he's not a great defender you need somebody to clean that stuff up at the room so i'll take walker castle that is true but i'm taking bed at its ceiling over this ability that walker pest walker will provide then you can find not a lot of walker because I don't want to say he's that part like I think Walker has a higher son than Benedict no tweaking you can bet he's over here you can draft Walker you can

draft Walker and then trade Miles Turner and then get some more picks back and keep building your team like walk against there's a perfectly fine pick here I feel I feel I feel safe as walking Walker Kessler is a sixth best player in this draft that's fine that's all whatever huh at seven I think I think I think I think I think at seven we had to pick Jay and Ivy I think he's falling too far sure Sure, let's do it. Okay. Let's do it.

I mean, it's going to be like, if we're just saying whatever to fit, then cool. I hate how low he's falling because I do think he's going to end up being top five in this draft class. Yeah, Jay and I've already fell too far. We should have picked him higher. He's got to go here. Yeah, for sure. So eight, we have Benedict Matherin, Shaden Sharp, Jeremy Sohan. Tari Isson, Loki, like, which one of these guys got?

Sohan would be a dope fit there I think it has Damn bro I'm cool sharp over Matherin I think Sharp is a really high scene With that athleticism Granted he hasn't put together The rest of the game

But I think those raw tools Have you a huge ceiling Give me Shane de Sharp Y'all are so nasty Y'all are so nasty It's just like Benedict I feel like you have Benedict Matthew In like a different tier

I feel like you have them in this like Palo Chet Holmgren tier When he's just, hell no. He's, he's just like the rest of the other rookies outside of them. He's definitely tiered in between tier two or tier three of this rookie draft class. He's fine. Okay. Well, if we're going sharp at eight, then Mathrin S.B. 9.

Now, let's go Jeremy Sohan. No, bro. We can go Benedict. Nine is perfect. Okay, Ben, that nine. Number 10, we had Jeremy Sohan, Jalen Duren, Tari, Eason, Andrew Nenhard. Who gets his last spot? Jeline Dernard.

is nice. I'd take Jeremy Shohan. Oh, Jeremy Sohan versus Jalen Duren is tough. That's tough as fuck. But I kind of want to... Ah. Jalen Duren is a higher floor. He's going to be a good role man.

Should profiles a go shot blocker one day, you know what he's going to be. But Jeremy Sohan is passing as a four. He can be a fucking phenomenal connector. Yeah, Jeremy Sohan can be like a special type of player that doesn't come around very often. Yeah. So I think we go him for ceiling.

Also he has cool hair So I'm taking a fact Also he has beef of LeBron Do we ding him for that for having too much dip on a ship Or do we like that for the audacity But it's not with brawn it's with the Braun fan page So we like that He's standing up for himself

He's standing up for himself Okay Great Jeremy so head number 10 Okay There we go So that's our redraft top 10 I think we let Jay and I be far too full well I said far too fall

that was crazy we let jade and nephew fall too far but I don't hate this list it's all right it's fine solid you know how I feel about ben in it but I digress

yeah you fucking love him you need to make a fan page I don't love him I just know how good he is I'm like y'all was that a snort or heard maybe I hope not who snorted

I think I did next next video we got Donovan I think you have have some jerseys to show us i do do we have this powerpoint up yeah let's we're going to do another old versus new something we've been doing for a while this started with jersees actually we've been doing a lot of player-based ones ha ha ha maybe we get back to jerseys

which NBA jersey is better old or new all right first one up we have this green Detroit piston jersey which was their old city jersey and this statement jersey that's a part of like this new era that they have gone uh all the old is nice but that's not their bag i I feel like they're double dipping. This is not your lane, Detroit. This is not your lane. Even though it's better. Can't tell you guys some?

What? What's up? These are both trash. No, be real. The old Detroit is not trash. The green one's bad. Okay, the green one's fine. The black one sucks.

The black one is not good. It's DET. Like, I feel like I'm, this is like the YMCA jerseys, bro. This is for something like a metro bus. This looks so municipal. This looks terrible. This does look like the metro. percent two things one the black one sucks two you know who made the green one who designed

who don't big Sean that makes me like it less but it's better one so we'll pick that one you know Isaac is a big Sean hater he he has not liked him for several years and he knows that big Sean is one of my favorite rappers this green one is getting the nod for me yeah this green one is genuinely better bro look at I think those are three stars over the D it's hard nice Alright, what's next? Next one We have this magic jersey From the from the TMAC era

Versus this new one With like the orange pinstripes Oh Listen I know we all love magic doorback jerseys The pinstripe was on the best jersees of all time But this blue one with the stars is ass Those stars are so tacky This is this is not the wave

This is not the wave And on the shorts it has that like black panel It just looks so out of out of place. I have no idea. Is that like a black pinstripe on the side? I don't know. It just looks like the carpet in a movie theater. Wow. I don't know, bro.

No. Honestly, I kind of like it, but it's the color's a little bit too much for me. But even what that said, give me the old. I don't like that orange along with that white and that random ass star. Three four old. Yeah, no. Fuck that.

Give me, give me new. I mean, give me old for sure. Now, the orange one's fine. It's cool. The orange is unique for their colors.

games. I like it. It's just a matter. I don't love it though. It's just that the old one is horrible. So they win by default. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, actually you're right. This does look like the fucking movie theater floors. So imagine hell of popcorn over that for some reason. Yeah, this is kind of gross. You just talk to me. Yeah. He's a MC shit out of here. Next. All right. Next one. We have the new son's jersey versus this tired, worn out black city jersey that they ran that they ran into the ground. No, they for sure slotted the jersey out for sure.

But they slotted it out for good reason though because this new jersey is hard as hell in this old jersey or yeah, this old jersey is hard as hell in this new one. It's not feeling it's not getting the good vibe, bro. Devin Booker's not smiling. Stop it. Stop it. This New Jersey is one of the best

jerseys and it's one of the best redesigns that they've had in a while because you can go back 20 years and the sons have had pretty bad jerseys. And this new white one is fantastic. Just because their old shit was ass doesn't mean this is good. This looks lifeless. Yeah, exactly. In making the sun white with the text white, it just looks plain.

It's clean. It looks like it looks devoid of life. Exactly. It looks like you've been in fucking confinement for 12 hours a day. And it's your time to go out to go ahead and go outside and hoop. This is what you would wear, bro. This is what they make. And people in jail be hell creative.

Someone in jail made this jersey. This is a grippy sock jersey. You guys are getting full because he's wearing. a t-shirt under it this is going to look so good on court i don't know i think it's fine but the black one is a reason they ran into the ground it's really strong i'm gonna go with that one no i'm not with it yeah this is giving me straight i'm not with it this is giving me stray jacket buys bro what's super important to your your jersey has to be versatile and if you can't wear a white tea under it if it's that bad then you shouldn't be wearing it to actually put a black t under that valley jersey

just hard all right next one Okay, we have, we have this old yellow New Orleans Hornets jersey versus one of their city jerseys from last season. That one is terrible. I don't know if it's the actual jersey that's terrible or just because of how Anthony Davis look in that photo. Both just bad. Both just bad, but the new one, it's slightly better.

I'm not going to lie. You for sure, look at your cricket. I'm not going to lie. Nostalgia has me in the chokehold right now because I'm really going with this old one. What do you like about that? Listen, this reminds me of like a very like NBA live moment, right? PlayStation 2 type of era.

See? It's, listen, I have no real reason. Nostalgia's beating the shit out of you right now. You just miss being 12 years old and not having to go to work. Facts. This jersey sucks. Oh, 100%. I hate the yellow.

I hate the blue. What is this color scheme? Makes me feel like I'm in fourth grade again, bro, drawing the sunny blue skies and the yellow sun. it's disgusting yeah give me the new one pinstripes too gross what stop it's hard no the pinstripes elevate the jersey it's really really hard to mess up pinstripes and they didn't mess it up here yellow jerse jean mustard jersey is gross jean mustard y'all don't know you got new orleans for real it's okay it's okay next one we got these we got these late 1990s rocket throwbacks versus the throwbacks that they use for

from last season when the Rockets were in like San Diego from like the 60s to the 70s. Which one is better? Listen, I know the right answer is the 90s ones. I don't love it as much as everybody else does. Woo! Someone said the truth. Finally.

It just gives me like old diner vibes. Like it just looks like rocket power like the cartoon. It's two 90s. It's two Nickelodeon. The graphic designer for the Rockets creating the San Diego ones was in his bag bro it's super unique too you don't tend to see just two three stripes across the shorts only and that being the only major blocks of color this is beautiful i expected this type of hate from isaic not from you though you let me down

you let me down these rocket jerseys are fantastic you take this design put it on a starter jacket you are cooking you put it on any other type of merch any type of hoodie t-shirt shirt you put it on a pair of pants it's fantastic pair of pants this is this is the clear winner this is good if you're purposely trying to dress like an eighth grader from the 90s like you're going for that hey Arnold look but in terms of like standing the test of time i'm not rocking with it anymore you're gonna act like you're gonna act like arnold didn't have drip okay okay listen if we're lying just let me know just let me know it's fine it's fine it's fine but honestly i don't even like the green one so i'm we can go old ones still don't even

care the old ones are better it's lame it's a fact all right what's the next one okay we have the 2012 redeemed team jerseys and the two thousand twenty three world cup jerseys for both for team USA the 23 world club blue with the new one i'll say that no the the the world cup jerse is they're asked bro how the u.s the font of the USA and just being close to the collarbone ass makes me feel like I'm standing at the front lines about to serve for my country and I'm not doing that we are just hooping it's not that deep this is for sure a naval outfit yeah and it has and it has like that gradient no facts and it has like and it has the gradient but it's not even like a clear gradient

it's a blocky gradient and that's even worse you know how we feel about gradient on this podcast so do not try in front do not try and fly bro look at Walker Kessler look at his He looks like a staff charger for sure. You know, on God. 506. Going Doc. That's an American. Yeah, bro.

He looked like he was on. He was a part of the ops team to take town Ben Lotton, bro. That's how seriously it works. We're just playing basketball. This is not that deep. Even Jalen Brunson, his ass was for sure in ROTC. He ran those holes. Bro, sturdy.

Yeah, he's sturdy as hell. Of course he was. And all the fucking perfect poses. Yeah, we're giving it 2012 easy. Iconic. Thank you. Next one These beautiful

You ever know which one I'm going with These beautiful Throwback Miami white hot jerseys Versus their city jerseys from last season I am offended You would even think I would pick a ransom no jersey These jerseys fucking suck And the white out jerseys are iconic

Incredible if fit the team perfectly I think they should be wearing these For the rest of their team's history I ain't gonna lie The ransom ones It was creative And I kind of like it, but it's not as good as the muted Miami heat all white like the all white just does something to me man. I don't know what it is. The black accents, it got me, man. I don't like this. The random note, that's something that like that you think about and you're like, oh, that would be a good idea. And then you actually see it and it's like, oh, we should have never done this.

He should just stayed away. Who let him cook? This is terrible. I will say this white one looks much better than the black one. The black one, the black one. The black one, look atrocious. This is like maybe teetering towards mid. Maybe. I don't know. It's a mid is generous. Yeah, mid is generous. This is yeah.

Yeah, they all suck. All right. What's it? Yeah, what's the 2012? All right. We have the Warriors throwbacks from this year, from like this past or from two years ago, actually, versus the Warriors throwback that they used during the title run in 2022.

Easily the one with the red team. That is one of the cleanest doorbacked jerse I've seen in the last 10 years. That is incredible. The original picture they announced it where Clay had it with a stereo on his shoulder, Elite. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

They're both actually really, really damn good. But like Isaac said, bro, the stroke on that, the white stroke on the red font is fucking classic artwork. Hang this up. I need one of those immediately. No matter what player it is, bro. The contrast.

You can wear this on the street Where it's to the beach You can wear this at any frat boy party You can wear this to your gender reveal It's that type of elitiness You guys are letting a little pop of red Fool you Because it's the it's like

It's the 90s throwback The one where it just has words Going across in the slant The one that stuff is wearing That one is extremely clean It works in any era It is beautiful And that's a better one

wrong also also the one also the one with the red that one has that like texture that the nuggets were wearing back in like in the Carmelo days that was like the shiny jersey

I it was listen it was cool when carmello was wearing it not really when Andrew Wiggins is wearing it so I'm giving Seth the nod you won't sway me it's the red one facts the red two clean bro

right too clean and also yeah next one next one next one next one I was gonna get in a Cutting class, bro. All right. We have the Pace of City jerseys from last year and their throwbacks to a Hoosiers team,

which is not even a real team that they used about a decade ago. These are... If you're going to pull out a fictional jersey, that bitch better be clean. This is horrible. Both of these are so trash. Get this Paul George, Hickory, cracker barrel, ass jersey out of my face.

This is disgusting, bro. No, this Tom Sawyer-ass jersey. hate this. It just makes me mad. Yeah. I know. I'm like, Otto Graham should wear this. For what it's worth, though? Cracker Barrow do be lit sometimes. No way, do not. I don't know where you be going. No, this little house in the prairie ass jersey. I hate looking at it. Get this off my screen.

Feel like if you wear this Hickory House jersey, bro, you must have a revolver by her hip ready to point that bitch at anybody. It's mandatory. It comes with it, bro. No, Clint Eastwood would rock the hell out of this jersey. Yeah, exactly He wouldn't love that But those new bases I don't even like the new one But in comparison

It's incredible Incredible is crazy to say But you're right It's official It looks like you're driving NASCAR It looks like It looks official dude

I don't know what it is I don't like it It's whatever though It's way better than the Hickory House shit Hickory House is a Hickory House is a restaurant A breakfast restaurant

In Atlanta And it's generational bro A bunch of all the white people It's a good video I love what we're talking about jerseys. We got one more video to do before we get out of here.

Long episode. We're going to look at in the past we did some stuff where we looked at Players Photoshop to be bald. Hilarious. Loved it every time. This time we're going to look

at players Photoshop to have hair. So it's going to be a hair swap. Hair swap. Let's do it. I'm going to get one of those soon, y'all. Sorry. We being serious.

If there's one thing, I'm being serious. There's one thing about us We're gonna laugh at some hair On this podcast A hundred percent Rate these NBA hair swaps What?

Who is this? Baron Davis? Why does he look like a bodybuilder? He looks like somebody He looks like somebody In those exercise videos from the 80s That's He for sure has leg warmers on

Dancing doing Zumba That had been I'm too thick I'm getting I know black I Dominican vibes From this right here Yeah

I know black. I know black. I'll give this a five. It's whatever. He looks like an insane barber, bro. He looks like one of the Dominican dudes who will fucking get you right with whatever hairstyle you want. Top tier barber. He looks like he's at the gym playing music out loud in his phone. Abnoxious as hell. That is true. I give him a five.

This is a six to me. I can't be hard on the five. He looks worse. thing he does normally. This is a terrible haircut. That's true, but I know this person, so it's a 10. I know who this is. Mystery man, shout out to you. This is a real person. I've met this guy

in real life. We've had conversations. Next one. Carl Anthony Towns. Oh, man. This is the kneecap if I ain't seen one before. Shit. Listen, I feel like I've been too mean to cats, so you got it. I'm not trying to be too to me. This is, I'll pick up the slack.

This is Piccolo. This is an elbow. This is a pink eraser. This is a bowling ball. This is a bean. A pinto bean to be specific. This is ants. This is horrible.

This is a brown. This is a brown caged egg. This is fantastic. I love it, bro. This is amazing. I love it, bro. Caged egg. Yeah, bro.

He's one of them expensive eggs that have whole foods. You know what I'm talking about? oh man this is the upper middle class egg that's crazy expensive bro this is nasty this is nasty work

yeah no this is like this is an incredible wood shop project sculpted and shine to perfection uh man his head is kind of like the perfect shape too bro

I ain't gonna lie to you I've never had I never seen a head so symmetrical looks similar to a light ball I like it. To a light bulb. I will say he looks better this way.

This makes him look like a much more intimidating player who, you tell me this is a player from the 70s, that average 15 rebounds a game, I would believe you. Really? Wow. Yeah, this is like, you tell me his name is Artis Gilmore and I'll believe you.

Ben Wackadoo, something like that. That's for sure believable. That's a perfect nickname for Kat. And I'm going to start using that moving forward. Ben Wackadoo? I'm writing that down I'm writing that down thank you

pull out the journal I'll give that a good eight I think it looks good on him yeah this kind of looks like using a Kobe impression but I like it yeah four there is no reason why he should be screaming

like that though when you ball too man what does he not understand about how he looks in frame but with that being said I think there's a seven four this is a good Photoshop they're in their bag

two damn good bro The person comes from the future? That's all right. All right. Next up, we got Kobe Bryant with Lamello's hair. Bro. I just smelled the obnoxiousness. I smell the gel. I know the TikTok coming and the dances are coming, bro.

I don't know. I don't like that shit. This is just what's his name on the Lakers? What's his dude name on the Lakers right now that looks on him? Max Christine. Yeah, Max Christy. Yeah. God, that looks like him, bro.

I don't like it. Yeah, nah, it's, it just, it just doesn't work. It just doesn't work. Honestly, it could work. If he had like a chain or something, like Lamello, if he went full Lamello and had like the tattoos and the chains, maybe I could do it. But just the hair on it, it's just weird.

It's not good. See, the funniest part is it's like 30-year-old Kobe face with 16-year-old Kobe hair. This was like teen Kobe, it'd probably look fine. But it just looks like a guy who's having a mid-life crisis who doesn't know who he is anymore. facts and the worst part about this is is that like this hairstyle is not meant for Kobe his head is a little bit too long and so that back of the Mohawk thing it's it's out of place it's man it has his own shadows yeah no

you watch a lot of barber YouTube videos I can tell I'm gonna give this a good three being generous because it's Kobe I'll say I'll say 40 just just because it's cope I'll give him a four Alright, next one. Next one we got. The Red Mamba. You big back baby each ribs for a living. Oh my goodness.

This is, he looks like a truck driver. Oh my gosh. Yeah. No, he does not look like a truck driver. He looks like a medieval creature. Oh my goodness. He looks, yeah, you're right. Pegasus?

No, he looks like the half goat guy from Narnia. Yes. This guy was an extra in Game of Thrones for him. Wow, I'm so shocked. This is disgusting. He lives beyond the wall. He's a northerner. Are those his real ears or are the ears Photoshop too?

Because if those are his real life ears, we need to have a conversation about Larry Bird. Those are elf ears. Did him so dirty, bro. The posture is terrible too, man. The beer is just, just looks so greasy. I just imagine him eating ribs. I don't know why. Looks like he's heavy.

It looks like he hunts and scavenges all his food. Killing live deers and just, ah, start ripping it gross. He's a mad of the land. Low key. This looks like he was made off of like an Aaron Baines archetype. Aaron.

You were in your bag with that one. This is just Aaron Green's grandfather. You see it. You see it. No, this is for sure a grandfather, though. This is just somebody from another time. This is like an 1880's face. The thing that's killing me, though, is that I know his voices sound stupid as hell with this haircut.

It must, dude. It must. Yeah, but no, this is a guy who enjoys eating mutton. That's what he does. That's for sure a muttoner. A mutter who works at the fucking gas station, bro. Filling up my gas thing for me back when they had two in them days, the show. That's funny.

Yeah, I'm going to give this a zero. I don't like it. Zero. I'm like actively afraid of him. Yeah. Predators. I wanted to say that too. Next one, get him out of here.

Thanks to be like Kevin Garnett. I can see this one. I can see this one in real life. This looks like a real person. And if Kevin Garnett came up in these times, this is what he would look like for real. Yeah, I've met this guy several times on college campuses. This is straight up just a Playboy Cardi disciple. Fashion God, fashion demon.

That's what it is. This is Ken Carson. Yeah, this is Ken Carson. SoundCloud he's so deep on SoundCloud, hell of deep. He's so deep on SoundCloud, both still pushing his shit. 60 plays in a month. Hey, he's grinding though. He for sure only listens to Playboy Cardi leaks and he makes funny if you listen to the actual albums.

Yeah. He's a way. You're not. Yeah, I, well, so I would give this about an eight. Yeah, give an eight. He doesn't look terrifying like the last guy This I think yeah This is definitely the best one that we've seen

I don't know but yeah You just can't be this big While also like being this misunderstood looking You know? Misunderstood Yeah like You know what Loki though I feel like you really enjoy slam poetry

He'll just never tell his friends He'll get made fun of They wouldn't understand He's a soft side I was born in the wrong generation Lame I'm gonna old soul.

I might have lower him to seven for that. You put a really bad mental image in my mind. Yeah, no, this is six. I know some people like this in real life. Get help. All right, what's next? Next up we got Manu Genoblee. Gustavo, okay.

80s. Straight from the 80s. But he looked like you for the hey-by-my-matties movie lead. This is the kid from Karate Kid. This is John Travolta from Greece. Every movie you can imagine, he could be in it. I just picture him like roller skating on the beach with like a fanny pack on. Like this is, this is so 80s.

Being hella smooth too, bro. Every 15 year old girl at the time used to rave over this man. Fax, he'd be dancing. He does a lot of this. Like a nerdy tell. Yeah. What does he do? What does he do?

Hey, yeah. Hell not. He just having his fingers in unison Yeah, he's he's hella smooth I don't know what it is man Yeah Now he's a great salsa dancer He didn't this man

He got that in his bag Honestly This might be our first 10 This is probably 10 out of 10 man in general bro Wait no it's not the first 10 Oh wait wait I guess consensus Yeah you're right you're right

Easy first 10 Yeah 10 out of 10 man in general bro You can date my daughter With this haircut for sure This man most turned on Next up, we got Dirk with Dreds. Now this is KG's bastard best friend right here, bro. I don't know God to hang out, bro.

This is King Vame's best friend right here. Come on, man. This guy works at a record shop. No, no. This guy works at a thrift store where they sell overpriced clothes to white kids that want to dress vintage. I can already imagine it. This man is a pot head for sure. You can be smoking weed.

I, and I told you all this, before. Just because Dirk married a black woman Does not mean that we can put dreads on him We cannot do this We cannot do this I've seen this guy Venice Beach several times Yeah bro He hangs in that place

I know who you're talking about Yeah bro He's got a Rick and Morty pipe in his back pocket Yeah this dude definitely still lives On the college campus at the big old age of 27 What are you doing with you like man He never left a student housing Yeah bro

I know him too No, any white man with dreads Automatic Zero No exceptions, get him out of here Thank you Yeah, bro Zero Next up

I don't even know who this is This is Pau Gasol They did him dirty This is Paukasol No, he looks like a dinosaur He looks like an angry bird He looks like an angry bird He looks like an angry bird

Yes, he looks like an angry bird, bro This is something lizard related I'm kind of scared Monsters in Corporation Ooh No he looks like he'd be a He looks like he'd be the bullies like Sidekick in an old 80s movie

Like those white kids and the karate kid That were bullying the main guy This could be one of the stooges That stands behind the main one True True This is a stooge I'll just say that

Yeah I feel like he probably was One of the main lead In a movie about bullying Bro He looked just like a bully Just straight up douche He looks like he takes orders Yeah

He's an enforcer I think this is a henchman A henchman He's a bad one at that if so So bro Yeah Four Listen it's better than Dirk but not by much

I'll give him a two I'll go one Mo Tough critic What's the decide You kind of talked into me Talked me into those scores This might be a

actually nice next up magic Johnson and he looks kind of clean he looks kind of clean he looks kind of clear chill I gotta rock with this yeah he's still pulling dax dude he's oh my god it does oh shit yeah that does the nose is killing me bro well this is a YouTuber ass hair cut he looks like he goes to smash bros tournaments it looks it looks very natural i feel like if he came in the league four years or i don't know smash brough tournament so you're telling me he'd be best friends with jared allen yes this is jared alice this guy lives at dream con oh my god bro he lives at dream con it's hilarious nasty guy he probably has a weird odor to him too but shot to this is like a normal dude

I feel like I know him. Again, this makes Magic Johnson look worse, so it can't be above a five. I'm gonna give it a fourth. Legend of Zelda, master. He's dedicated to his craft. Give me a six. He's a six for sure.

And he may be. I know he said Bazingo a time or two in his life. I go five. I go five. That's fair. Next up. Dwayne, This looks crazy because it's 40-year-old Dwayne Wade face

But at the same time, it looks like something Dwayway would do right now Like if Dwayway popped out like this I wouldn't be surprised Facts like a Japanese rapper He Loki tried to do this in his last year So I mean like Wait, you're actually right He did do this

He had the braids he braided his hair He did do this Now his braids were tight though because he didn't have a lot of hair. I didn't know his head hurt. He had my all day. This isn't that bad though. Yeah. This screams midlife crisis to me. It looks like Shay's his number one inspiration with this bro. You're too old to be posing putting off poses like this for sure. No. Listen look we talked about people who look like they did slam poetry. He does slam poetry. He enjoys it. He's he's in an oversized sweater

doing he wears Rick Owens exclusively I can tell I like that I think yeah this has to be a five this is just straight up mid yeah I go to five

it's fine I go five mid and that's our last one and that is also the end of the episode again apologize for the first two hours

having the worst audio of all time hopefully talks for a little better yeah man Mo what should people comment if they're still here The exterminator is on the way. Still, I need to be freed because the job is not done yet, bro. Comment, get Moe out of the hood.

Please. Let's get Mo out of the hood. Let me see the other comments. Let's go. Please. See you all next time.