The Deep 3 Podcast - We Put EVERY 2025 NBA Star Into A Tier List | Ep. 159

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

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We are officially in mid-September. You know what that means? What do you mean? It means pumpkin spice lattes are out. It's getting crispy outside. The weather's coming down. And it means the NBA off-season is almost finished. We're almost done with the most dry off-season in my memory as an NBA fan.

I can smell a meaty day around the corner. But with that being said, it's not over yet. We got one more deep off-season video in the tuck to do today. And as you can see by the title, we are going to put every single 2025 NBA All-Star into a tier list. last week we did the greatest players of all time in a tier list the most serious conversation you've ever had we took it with we felt responsibility to do the quintessential NBA great tier list and that's what we're doing today we're going to put all these players into a tier list and make sure we have something on YouTube that really lays the land of the current state of NBA All-Stars

hell yeah very substantive content man I don't really see anyone doing it like this having these really granular analytical conversations you know based on facts based on what's happening back in the day, like how it was the last episode. We're historians. Exactly, bro. Yeah, so I challenge every single NBA podcaster out there that happens to watch us to do better. Keep up with this episode. Go band for band with us when it comes to the knowledge, man.

You can't. It's impossible. And with that being said, we're going to cue the intro music and talk about every single NBA All-Star and how well they would fare if they were in the Hunger Games. The cranium is crazy. Oh, my God. I mean, I don't know what to say. Pray on eaters, rejoice.

So if you guys are familiar with NBA players and you are familiar with the Hunger Games, there should be a very straightforward video for you guys. What we're doing is we're imagining. Every single NBA star is put into arena. I think we have 41 of them on this list right now. Who do we think has the best chance of winning the Hunger Games coming out as the one person alive at the end?

Now, for the people who haven't watched Hunger Games, a.k.a. it was me like 13 hours ago. How would you describe just to give them like a quick bio of this movie? I just did. There's a bunch of people in an arena. One person lives. That's all it is. Is that simple? Is that simple? Who comes out on top and we're engaging these players on winners, runner-ups, don't sleep on them, good allies, easy lick, and first to go. That's the categories. We will add more as to go on. So, yeah, the only conversation is if there's nothing at their disposal, they're in the wilderness and they have to win a survival battle, who do we think has the best

chance in the NBA. See, I like this. I like this. I have, and I'm glad, listen, this is why we have a show, because I have thoughts. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, first to go. Let's start. Let's start. Yeah, what are we going to do? Are we going to set the baseline of, like, who we think can win, who we think the favorites are? Or are we just going to get these quick jokes off and say, first to go. You take it wherever you want. I got the names pulled up here. You guys can't see him. First name, Janus Attena Cumpo. Oh, listen, man. clearly clearly not going to be the first to go no he's a chance just by physical traits like he's gonna have a one up on almost every other NBA player he's a fucking physical specimen man yeah he can

take damage i think he would like he'd last at the end he wouldn't be beaten by like the elements you know sometimes you know you sleep outside they sometimes fuck with you and make it super cold or crazy rain all these other natural things yeah i don't think that would get yonis if this i mean he's he's used to the elements you know so like so this is gonna get real All the Africans on this list Hey, you're used to it, buddy. You're familiar with this term. No, like, you saw the Disney more.

It was on Disney Plus. It's not on me. World Africa's like, I did not write the script. I did not write the script. I'm just telling you what was on streaming. That's not what I meant. And so like, I was wondering in my head how long until we just put up all the Africans to start to notice.

The first, put in the first two minutes. First of all. First of all, you're going to respond. respect this Greek man, right? But, like, he's clearly... He is Ebo, my brother. Okay, so I think don't sleep on them implies that they're, like, a threat.

Eurobasket has something else to say about that. I think don't sleep on them implies that they're a threat, but you're probably not picking them as, like, a serious threat to win. Like, hey, don't take your eye off them, but they're not a runner-up, not a winner. I think, honestly, at least in the top two tiers.

So here's, here's my thing about, and, like, we're going to get into the conversation with a lot of the big men is that easy target, right? Because you're going to get to a point where, like, you have some weapons. And so if I have another five or six inches that I can take a headshot on, right? If I have some type of weapon, I might be able to get you a little bit easier. By the spear, I can aim at him better.

Yeah, a little bit easier than, like, if Pat Bed was hiding in a bush rather than, like, you know, Yon is standing out. Okay, I think with Yon is with these elite athletes. Like, Wendy, I don't know. There's too much surface area to where, like, I can take my shot anywhere and I can hit you. There's no, it's not bullish, you know? It's like, we have like knives and stuff like that. Yeah. You can have a bone arrow.

Also, I think, too, if you're bigger, you're going to like go play to your advantages and also disadvantages and know that, oh, shit, like I can't be out and about in the tuck. Like, there's no such thing as a tuck for me. You got to be behind trees. You got to be behind locks. Got to hide behind like big ass boulders and shit. So I would think like someone like Janus or Wembe would be smarter than that. Okay.

Well, we can talk about both those two because I think the differences. These guys are some of the best athletes in the league. These guys are guys that will have a fiscal advantage over people. he's going to the mental side. Is Janice's goofiness going to hurt him or is he like his insane work ethic going to help him and he's going to find a way to get it done? I feel like he plays with more anger

and like determination. The motor's crazy. Do we feel like that can make him a winner? Yeah, I do. Because we've seen it, we've seen the, like when Janus gets into like that mode, like we've seen Janus run around a stadium over a basketball.

But is he going to hurt his knee. No. Today's Janus. It's very true. No. I don't know. He might be a runner-up because, like,

he hasn't made it past the first round and quite some time. Running through the cornucopia right away. Yeah, right when they need him the most. So it's like, he can, he can definitely,

yonels can definitely win. He can win, I agree. And I think we can also put Wemby in there because Wembe is a genius. He is the prince who was promised. He is one of the smartest players in the NBA.

He's well read. He clearly has what it takes to continue to add to his game. And like, he'll study the surroundings and whatnot. And I think he'll like, has some crazy big brain. Yeah, he's a fast learner.

He's a fast learner. So, see, but now I do, I do feel like Wembe might not be in the, like obviously he has the potential. He might be more in that like,

don't sleep on him just because you might see him. He is a little, he's obviously. He doesn't have the physical traits. That's what I'm saying. He's like, he doesn't. He's honest,

but much skinnier. So like, you look at honest and say like, yeah, that's, oh, I disagree. So he's skinny. He is nimble.

You've seen those videos of him stretching on the field on the court and stuff? He's skinny, but he's like strong. He's a good core. He's nimble. He's like, he is a very functional athleticism body. He's not like a brute.

He's not going to get hurt a lot throughout his career, despite being 7-4 because I think he's so functional and can move and so bendable. That helps in the 100 games. I think despite being 7-4, he can squat under some bushes. He can get low. He can army crawl. I think he can move in some areas, some ways you wouldn't expect a 7-4 guy to do. That'll help him.

I bet he can climb a tree. I don't think Yon has some climatry. He absolutely can't climb a tree. You're right. Yons can't climb a tree, of course. Okay, whatever. Now they're here nor there, but I think

when we can climb trees very quickly. Yeah, but how would he fare off in like one-on-one combat, though? I think he's elusive enough. Or he's a Shaolin monk. I think he can do it.

I think he can learn. I mean, the monks aren't like fighting like that. I know, but that tells me that he's willing to embrace other cultures and learn things. I bet he's learned a little bit of kung fu as well.

Okay. I feel good without him. Yeah, I just feel like Janus right now is a much more complete prospect to be in the Hunger Games where it's like Run up.

Yeah, when we still have to have to see it. Exactly. Just a little bit more. Okay. Evan Mowbly. Let's kill another big guy. Don't sleep on him.

Yeah. I would say not to sleep. Like you saw the video this off season. And Mowgli, he was running on the track. He looked very, very spry, right? He's pretty nimble.

He's added some muscle onto him this off season. But does he have like the creativity when it comes to figuring out certain ways to like serve whether it be like finding ways setting up booby traps and all that I think he would be a good ally

but I don't know if he would be like That's what I was going to say He's a good ally Just like he's a great teammate to have If you're a star point card I want to have a back line defense Lob Finisher He is a great ally

Just like a brute to have on your side He's gigantic great defender He can protect everybody I don't know if I see him necessarily having the mental edge Like a Yanis to be insane and win it all Yeah but a fantastic ally to have on your side Yeah I don't think he has the face

to be like someone who I don't want a sponsor too. I ain't doing no that. When comes Evermobli. Oh, you're calling him ugly. No, I'm not calling him. He did. He really just said. Every movie's pretty handsome. You just said Evermobly's not sexy enough for you.

You should walk that back. Everymobley's honestly pretty handsome. No. Like, shout out to you, Evan Mobley. I see the waves spinning the goatee, crisp, put on some good muscle. I love that. But when it comes to sponsors and where I want to attribute my dollars to. He said, only top of the line sexiness for me.

Yeah, you're either, you're either calling him ugly or you're colorist. maybe I'm both so what Carlithet Towns oh he's easy lick he's so goofy he's so goofy

you're right but he's not first to go he's too like physically imposing he can take a hit he's gigantic he's like he has a grown man body now

like he is like big and like strong to the core so he's not first to go because there's some guys in here that maybe we also think are goofballs but they're like small and he'll get just fucking

that's not cat yeah he he has to be in an easy look I think just because He's like, you see, you see the fouling, right? That happens throughout his career. Undisciplined. Right.

Undisciplined. And so he's the, he's the type to fall for any type of booby trap. You're right. No it is. Note it is. He might be first to go. The way he will go for any block and foul may be undiscipline, he's going to run straight to the cornucopia.

Yeah. And he's going to meet Yonis there and he's going to get dealt with. He might be first to go. He's going to get sliced up. Yeah. Because even when you know, like, everybody's, especially over the last like three or four years, everybody's been like, cat, stop fouling. He's like, yeah, man.

I know like I got to stop and then he just keeps foul his mentor is going to say don't go to the cornucopia you're not fast enough you can get there late you're going to get your spleen opened he's going to do it anyways yeah he's first to go for sure 100% I'm glad we brought the following because that is a clear sign of first to go yeah Kauai Leonard see okay now we can this this can go I see I'll go good ally for Kauai I think he's a terrible ally I think if anything in the last week has taught us you don't necessarily need Kauai on your side If you put your faith in Kauai Leonard, you invest in Kauai Leonard, not going to go well for you.

It bears very little fruit. But I don't know. But he can, he... This is this is modern day, Kaui Leonard. This is in 2019, 2014, Kaui Leonard. This is 2025. The reason why I would say... And he's brittle.

Maybe this is why, though, that he can be and don't sleep on him. The idea of Kauai Linder not being there, he can hide in the background. Ooh, yes. Right? You're not going to, you're not going to see him a lot. he's not going to be on the on the highlights and then you look up and there's like 12 people left and you're like yo how's kawai still here he's in the background chilling doing his thing waiting it out i 100% agree and on top of that too kawai's the type to find his way around the

system and somewhat hack the system bro off the grid i think he's going to have those people them on his side to nukeing nerfing the game form as well he's going to have allies that help him do rule circumvention around the challenges of the hunger games he's going to be outside of the bubble he's in a final way to break through the fences having the gamekeeper slide him a little bit of extra supplies on the side he's getting he's getting sponsored off the books exactly exactly off the book sponsors is the best way to put it literally step curry this is an interesting one i need to know is he going to be like hadness because i do think if you give him a bow and arrow his hand-eye coordination is is obviously okay yeah this is the first time in weapons coming to

play yeah so like you know obviously shooting the basketball he's great he's a really good golfer everyone everyone talks about how if you can you can have that that hand-eye coordination people have talked about uh like if he was a superhero he'd be hawk eye right yeah you put a bow and arrow and step curry's hands he could be dangerous with it okay so here's the thing he's also the fan favorite pretty boy knows how to play to the crowd or a farm or they're doing their little things yes The people of the fans, the viewers, will make sure he gets a bow. They'll make sure he's in the best case to succeed because they want to see him succeed. So yes, he will have the right weapon for his abilities.

He's pretty durable. He's pretty big these days. He can take a hit. He's grown from his previous era. He knows that to handle the environments, I think his body's good. I think he has a weapon. He has a real strength there. It's all the mental side.

Super smart. I think he belongs in winners, honestly. Necef Curry can win the Hunger Games? It depends on who his... What's his biggest downside? Here's the crazy part. it's going to depend on who on who his ally is

and in every life Steph Curry and Jimon Green need to be paired together exactly and so I think they will be So you want to put Steph Curry and runner up and Draymond Green goes to good allies They belong right side by side Right below each other good as it shows Dramon Green's a good ally

Dremont Green is no chance he wins but he will make sure that his whoever his best friend is doesn't die He will protect them He'll probably sacrifice himself Yeah he'll understand his fate Very early on and so there's a couple battles that like draymond's just going to win off of pure will

but like once you start getting down somebody's going to take the shot i agree but also there's been plenty of times throughout like draymond's career where he's literally like nuking not only himself but the entire team um oh so you're right stepcarry's going to be a runner up because draymond's going to sacrifice himself yeah but fuck him over like if draymond was you know not normal draymond but more tame the warriors would have more rings by now. They wouldn't have traded someone like Jordan Pool. They wouldn't like, who knows what the Kevin Durant situation would have been like. So maybe they would get a victory. You only need to do one time. You know, they're only in the arena once. That is true. So no, no, no, no,

Seth Curry would win until they send him back. Yep, yep, until the quarter quell comes out and we have Seth Curry back. But at that point, Germain won't be there to sell him. Okay, yeah, yeah, there we go. So yeah, okay. James Hardin. Super smart, but again, I don't think he's going to be a fucking win. Easy lick. Easy Easy leg. You think he's an easy leg? I think he's got to be easy luck. What? I think they're going to fucking destroy James Hart.

What do you mean? I don't know. Do you feel like he has the eye of the Tiger to survive the Hunger Games? I think he's pretty smart. Yeah, I think he's pretty smart. Yeah, nobody's saying he's dumb. It's about the motivation and like. I think he can, he has the potential to be some of who's like.

Game on the line, life on the line. We have seen James Hard in time and time year and year. Does not exactly rise to the occasion. Yeah. There's not going to be any gamekeepers that are blown the, whistle for him when somebody's playing out of line. If somebody pokes him the eyes, they're going to allow it. They're not going to give him a foul.

They're going to allow all the treachery that other people bring upon him and he's not going to be able to do anything about it. But I also feel like he's a good ally too because he will know, he will have the game plan. He'll be able to go ahead and set you up one need a bare minimum. I know that I will have the ability to get mine off and James is going to do James things. Hell not.

When leading up to the moment, I can't, I can't promise you things. James has given me that throughout his school. He's going to abandon me halfway through. Yeah, they're going to be so excited. excited to off James Harden because like once like after after the the first round like he's going to do something that that not everybody agrees with that people are going to be like it's kind of to tone towing the line and then once people get their shot then they'll go after him I think easy lick is the way to go yeah for sure okay

chet hungren oh easy first to go first to go yo someone sniping to me immediately right first go being a big man is really not advantage I just, like, obviously we have two and two, but for a majority of them, I don't think it's a great thing. Not for the week as big bad on the list. Yeah, no. Someone's going to take his ass and use him as a shield, bro. He's going out in the worst way

to so far on everyone on this list. There is Garland. I think I would like him as an ally. He's probably fast. Him running around, it's probably hard to hit. He's going to be an evasive guy to take down with your hands, even with weapons. Brittle. Brittle, but also, like, good ally? He is, I think he's a good ally because he also

as a shooter super smart point guard knows how to like get the basics done yeah like you can't I think he doesn't have the heart for it I think he's too nice he's a nice guy he's lucky and easy look he doesn't have the heart for it he's not going to be able to kill he is brutal too always injured see but that's the thing I don't think I think that makes it more

first to go than easy later okay first to go yeah you're too nice of a guy man you're too pocketful of sunshine you know also Tyre's Maxie Tyres Max is on here also too nice of a guy no no no we got to revisit that conversation and Darius Garn can not be first to go. Nothing about his skill set screams first to go. He's too nice. I don't think he can take a life.

So you think James Harrow got quicker than Darius Garland. If he had the right guys in order, like if you pay him with an Evan Mowgli, he's a great ally to have. Because he's going to set Evan Mowgli up to the list. I don't think a great ally to have is somebody who can't inflict violence. He will make the game plan to inflict that vines. He will be the one setting up booby traps. And also very likable guy too. And so is Tyrus Maxie.

They're both pacifists. I'm not going to lie. I'm going to give Dary's gone on a lot of sponsors. I will believe in him. He's not going to matter because he's a bad investment. Yeah. He's in a sea conflict and just get dealt with because he's not going to do it. He's a very, very nice guy.

You can't be too nice. Yeah. I disagree with that, man. Tyreys Maxie. Their smilers are too nice. They're very kind individuals. They won't want to inflict violence. They don't make them a heartfelt fan favorite that we'll hate to see go, but they're going to go.

Yeah. Okay. Russell Westbrook. Listen, don't sleep on the. Do not sleep on Russell Westbrook? No. I think, again, life on a lot. I trust Russell Westbrook.

I really do. But he might sell you last minute. Oh, no, he's going to miss it. He's going to miss the shot and get dealt with, but don't sleep on him. He'll get far. He'll just at the end. Yeah, he's the type to go ahead.

Then just don't give him a bow and arrow. He's going to find a way to do something. You're going to sit down. If I give Russell Westbrook a rock, a knife, right, something where it's up close and personal hand-to-hand combat. I trust him. But here's the thing. You can't make mistakes in the Hunger Games.

The gangkeepers will give you terrible. situations where you got to make split decisions and make the right one every time where you're going to be set on fire, you're going to be ripped apart by a monkey, you're going to be right away by a tidal wave, led to the middle of a group that's existing waiting for you. Many times you had to make fast, quick decisions. You'd make a lot of them, a volume of decisions. I guarantee you he has to make 10 decisions. I'll make the wrong one of these ones. No, don't. Fair, but don't sleep on him, though. He's the type to go ahead and sell the game plan that he made, or you made.

I've seen, listen, I've seen versions of Russ where every. thing has clicked before like there there is a possibility of him winning chris ball wow i think he's a winner for sure chris paul's pretty sure a winner at today's age though is he a winner yes i don't care what age chris paul will be the mastermind that runs the entire arena he definitely is a mastermind but i feel like he more so would be a runner up like he has no physical attributes anymore he's on his last legs currently it negative physical there's people that want the hunger games off of like iq where they like play into the power lines and like shut down the arena lights and stuff and like do some wiring

and all this crazy stuff i think you'd concoct a plan to use the environment to his advantage i would hate to put my sponsors to someone like chris ball because the the storyline is just not fun you're just hacking nukeing the rules i would love it that's betting on chris ball if you're a sponsor you're betting on the s and q 500 to go up that's an amazing bet history says you're going to win yeah but are you winning in an ethical way though i don't i'm trying to i'm trying to you can't win an ethical way you have to be unethical and he will be unethical he will cheat you just made the exact argument so he'll like basically tuspush his way yes so fucking victory yes he will be rude and uncalled for and he'll win stop looking to me like that you know exactly what i mean that's what it is that's

how we would do you said those points and i'm making your case like we didn't have to go there though kevin durand he's a great ally i have could potentially be a runner up he's like the he's low-key like the greatest ally in NBA history coming around as being the perfect handcuff every time we do those lists of who like has the has the best team is like kd's list is kd and james hardin have have some of the best lists of you know his relationships that he has must be i see i don't know they work they worked in over time which is why he's a good ally he's not going to win because the relationships will worth in by the time you get to the end of the game but he'll help you get far let's go yeah let's go good ally yeah Kevin grant's a good person

to have on your side there he just wants the ball he just wants to win yeah okay he just wants to survive. Okay. Cade Cunningham. What do we do with Cate Cunningham? Interesting. Young, on the come-up, kind of finally reached that dangerous level

where he's not to be messed with. He is a problem. I feel like, let's see. I don't know if he can be... He's a good leader. He's a very good leader. Yeah. If you give him the bare bone tools,

like he will lead you to certain places. You can deal with diversity. He can deal with not great circumstances. He doesn't need to have the bow and arrow that the sponsors give him like to do stuff curry he can get it out the mud a little bit he can rise all tides very true very true i think don't sleep on him he might be don't sleep on them or good ally i feel like we might have to add like an extra tier above easy licking good ally where it's like like i don't know because he feels somewhere like in the middle where it's not going to be easy

to get kate out of there but it also might not be like super tough put up a fight yeah okay so a new tier put up a fight where you do this you will be a difficult challenge for whoever wins but listen make you no mistake we're not picking you to win it's okay puts up a fight and that's kid cutting him jason tatum see this might be too ethical and so i i guess like he also might be in this in this put up a fight but i have i have no idea because i mean he does everything very yeah right very fundamental very the you know very much the right way of doing things does jason tatum have the ability to just go super sane currently at this moment i think we don't think about

this too hard he only has one perfect aco one of the killies i think he's a good ally i think he's like he makes people better and he'll make you better and he'll be a team player he doesn't have the killer instinct though to make to the top like late game does a difference in his mindset and the Janus mindset. Yeah, I feel like he'll be able to put up a fight. I don't think he's easy, like, even at, like, at this stage. But I think he'd definitely be put up a fight worthy. Yeah, you know what?

You have to be a, yeah, you have to put up a fight. You have to be a good ally if you're Jason Tatum, especially because, like, this entire Celtics run, there's been so much said about, about the Celtics and about, like, should they break up, should they, should they not? And for them to stay together, as long as they, as long as they have, That's definitely a plus in Jason Tatum's squad. Jimmy Butler.

Oh, he could be a winner. Minimum runner up, but like it's either runner up or winner. I'm taking runner up. I feel like that makes sense that he's just below those guys. You know,

he's just not quite as physically gifted as some of the guys above him. The story of his NBA career. He might outrun him at the end at the finish line, but he'll get to the final two and nobody will expect him being the final two. He'll be in the situation,

but he'll run into the cornucopia and be met by two people with blades and he'll find a way to get out and continue to defy the odds and survive somehow, just being a fucking cockroach making to the end. But then somebody that's a little bit smarter, a little bit more physically gifted, a little bit, has a high ground.

They're going to get them. Yeah. All right. Runner up is good. Okay. Kyrie Irving. Not going to lie. I don't know.

I actually have no idea. Okay. So do you, I don't think. Do you want to ally with Kyrie Irving? I don't think I would want to ally with Kyrie Irving. I don't think so. But nobody's ever had like on the interior. Yeah.

Nobody's ever said Kyrie's a bad teammate. Yeah. Because nobody's ever Ashton Brown in an honest scenario. Like, I don't want, if he's like a counterpart

or just like a good background guy, yes, I would love to have him on my team. But if he is the face of my team, something's always going to happen.

I'm going to be led to some type of like insane disaster. I think he's fodder. I think he's going to be the guy that whoever wins, they're going to like get to the bottom, top five.

And there's going to be some guy that pops out with like three knives and he's doing all's fancy shit, swinging them around. And he's going, right in the forehead. I think that's going to be Kyrie where he's going to be this like

scary threat. We see this guy spinning a fucking spear behind his back but then somebody that's actually the main character wins. Sounds like an easy look. Okay. Yeah,

it sounds like somebody who is all show but can't actually back it up. And so once you get past this exterior of like, oh yeah, I'm using nunchucks

and everything. I really don't really have to do much to stop. There's some real exposable flaws that someone's going to be like, oh yeah, he's standing in the open field. Let me just fucking throw a spirit.

I'm like, it's not going to go well. I guess so. Kyrie's so hard to talk about. Maybe we'll revisit him. Luca Donchich. First to go. Oh, he's going to be pouting, bro. He's going to be powd him up.

First, first to go. Yeah. If he doesn't go into the Hunger Games with multiple sponsors, with everybody saying that he's the favorite, oh, it's over. But we've seen him rise to the occasion so many times, though. He's a big game player. Yes, you're correct.

But we also seen him like this be flustered and just like have the most insane like cry baby type moments but he's too talented be the first to go i think what you're describing is somebody who when they're going gets tough by the end they won't win but first to go like he's too he's too he's aims too good he's here's why go ahead somebody is when we're at the start right everybody's being super super defensive and aggressive something is going to happen that he's not going to like that he's going to feel is on is on the borderline of how we should acting in the first part of it and then he's going to be looking around and being like yo what are we what are we doing here right i'm complaining to somebody boom you're done right and then

somebody's going to take advantage of that we've we've seen him complain to the refs while people are on fast breaks on the other side of the floor he's going to get caught up in the emotion very very quickly and that's what i'm saying first to go you know his type of athleticism to his body type doesn't lend itself well to fist fights i think exactly yeah i think explosive athletes win the I think he's an easy lick because the smartness and I think he's

going to find ways to go ahead and manipulate the game somehow some way that's what he always does but I don't think he's going to go far it's only right

that he's right to Jim Tarden actually yeah that shows exactly appropriate yeah because like easy lick also feels like I can

I can bait you yeah you know and so I feel like I can get Luca to be in a situation where I'm like yeah

I'm good Jaylon Brunson now listen he is walking around with that dog it's an easy target it's an easy target it's the biggest head in the area gargantuan target

waiting to be hit with a stick listen I love the physicality I think he can get some licks off when it comes to a one-on-one combat he'll put up a fight but you can't miss any punches on him oh okay but by but he'll have a big fan base behind him because he has a dog in him

and people will find out before he gets into the arena will the sponsor give him a helmet and if he has a helmet what then it'll slow him down and it ruins like a lot of his quickness and his neck is going to be lagging all over the place too i don't know okay this is another thing like look at where he's not an explosive athlete but he has he's a real regular body yeah he has like a regular wingspan regular weight regular muscle definition this this really depends on on his weapon because i do think that he can operate from weird angles like jaylin bruson can be in a tree or like

you know or standing on some like weird rock and like I don't know if he has the angle that I don't know if he has the angles though I can't imagine climbing trees flexible I don't see him climbing trees very quickly I actually okay and if he does he's giving that bit to weight I can see him in a tree I can see him in the tree he's weighing down those branches he's not a thousand pounds that is that is um he could he could put up a fight though

he's either he's either put it up a fight or he's he's a good at oh he's good ally he'll sacrifice to the team he'll give you his rash He'll take, well, he'll take less rations. If he gets a backpacker than cornucopia, he'll take less of it to give it to his teammates. Exactly. That's a good way. He's playing, he's playing with his homies right now. Are you?

RP, R.P. Dante. Okay. Okay, I think he's a good ally. Anthony Edwards, I think that's a definition of puttable fight. He's going to come out there and he's going to be so audacious. He will run to the cornucopia. And he's fast. He'll probably get there with a sword and he'll take out a few people with him.

But he's going to continue to test his luck. He's never going to take a concert of approach. No, no, no, he's too physically gifted If he gets a sword, but she will Because he's the fastest one there He will take bodies out with him But he will continue to do the high hit thing Continue to try to find and seek contact

And you gotta learn to pick your battles That's what I'm saying He's easily baitable But he's gonna win a lot of those Nothing's easy about it I'm gonna He will be at time And Andy Edwards is gonna be in the Hunger Games

He's a volume shooter for real But he's going to be like Yo, what are we doing with all these weapons? He's like yo post out Like let's fight for real And I think, like, at that point, you can get Anthony Edwards. See, I think if it was rookie year anti-airwards or year two or three Anthony Edwards, yes, but he's grown and developed as time went on.

He's been around OGs, the Olympics, being around Steph, Katie, and LeBron, trained him in his game. So if you ask me, I think he's perfectly fit for don't sleep on them, possibly even runner-up. I think put up a fight because everything Donovan says, right? He's going to drop his weapons and say, throw up their hands, let's go one-on-one, and people are going to do it and eventually to his demise. But he's going to win 10 one-on-ones before he gets there He's gonna have the highest body count of any loser Yeah

And also he's a he's a realist too I don't I don't think he's gonna go ahead and Highest body count of any Who's wrong, man Zion Willington First to go First ago Why is he first to go?

The way he's such a dead giveaway He cannot And waddling around He cannot be quiet at any mouth at all at a time he's gonna be you can hear

every crinkle and every leaf when he's not gonna lie that might be the most appropriate description of somebody I've never met before

so I don't know that's true I bet Zion Wilmson is never quiet in real life you can hear him coming I can tell you that

I bet he is a yapper I bet he's never silent I bet he's like one those guys that like walks into things that makes noise and wakes up

in the morning everyone's sleeping he's in the kitchen making a ruckus I bet he's never quiet he's first to go man but he's not

first to go because all those things are true and he will be an easy look because of all those things but he's also like the most gifted athlete in the arena he's gonna like be hard to take down yeah you're he could have seen he could get in

and he'll always start he'll start strong but then he'll get in the long game with Zion yeah he gets 25% into the game or the season and then it goes poorly then he'll fucking spraying his ankle in a pothole but he'll start strong every time we'll be like yo is he gonna win

and then he won't it won't happen it would be easy look okay or first or put up a fight easy one he'll put up a fight. Okay. Yeah. And then halfway through he'll be his own device.

Every time. Yeah. Every single time. Lamello ball. No, that's first to go. That's first to go. He's going to be

blasting out music with a speaker, bro. He's kind of blow cover. You know what it is? What is it? When you get to shoot himself? Yeah.

Look, bro. When you get in the arena, you stand on a little podium before it starts to do a countdown. If you step off early, you explode. He's going to step off early. He's going to try to get a headstop.

run to the cornucopia, and he's going to blow up. Yeah. Now, I will say he will get a lot of sponsors the way he'll just go ahead and have. It doesn't matter. He's going to blow up. The way he'll be able to play to the crowd, bro. It's a waste of money. But you're right in exactly.

It will be a waste of money. People will, before the game start, put in sponsorship bids, and then the game starts and he blows up. And everyone's like, oh, that was wasted hope. Can you imagine, like, all the, like, the press conferences that he'll be able to have, the way he would just be like, oh, yeah, like, so tough. He would, he would, he would, he would, he would, he would, he would, he would, he would, scheming me into going ahead and giving them a couple sponsors.

When I lose, yes. Are you 15? Like, yeah. Huh? Anybody who has a developed frontal lobe is like, this guy's not winning. I'm not, I'm not giving him anybody. You seen that clip where someone was like, oh, like, can you phone me back on IG? He was like, I don't run it.

Yeah. Tough. Sponsor, sponsor, sponsor, sponsor. That did it for you? No. I'm not saying it did it for me, but it was tough. Where do you go bear? easy first first to go he will be a target for everybody oh everyone everyone's going to try to get

his ass first you know why because they meet each other before the game start they like have like some socialization in the beginning when they're like shot off their skills and stuff don't immediately already be annoyed with them as soon as the touchdown everyone will be like trying to intimidate each other do all these things and there will be some groups formed some people hating other groups it'll be a mixture of rivalries brewing all the rivals all other 50 people will collectively decide really has to go first yeah he will bring together enemies Yeah, and so he's, they're, they're going to work together. They're going to get Rudy out of their first.

And then everyone's going to be like, all right, Hunger Games are now on. Like, now we can open it up. Begin. Yeah. Anthony Davis. Don't sleep on him. Good ally. No, he'll never get it done because it just won't work out for him.

He'll be hobbling into the grand finals. So don't, but don't sleep on him. He'll always be like, listen, man, that's like a top six contender to win it all. He's physically gifted. He can do everything Yonis can do. Maybe I want to bet on him more than Yonis, but something will always get in the way. I don't know if he can. can be a good ally though because at times when you expect or want him to be the A1 1A type

dude on your team that's like he will go ahead and I don't think he's a good ally though for that no but that's but that's my that's my exact point because he's never going to be the guy but if you if you want him to play to play like the number two fiddle but sometimes you want him to be number one and he cannot be that though he's proven that time and time again yes and you know what, he hasn't always, he begrudgingly is like, I know that the five is better. I want to play the four. There is, there is an aspect of selfishness that comes along with AD. So, okay, good allies not there. So it's either don't sleep on them or put up a fight. Okay. Don't sleep on them. Yeah. Okay. That's fair. All right. Next name, John Morantz. Easy lick.

Why is it? Easy lick. I don't know how to feel about John in this. It's either easy lick or first to go. I don't trust him to make it. I don't trust him to make a deeper He's super I mean He's a smart player on the court He's super athletic Well versus weapons Ooh weapons will be a huge

A huge plus next to him In this scenario I think he expands past The weapons we've seen this real life of him enjoying Maybe he's really into bow and arrows Really into spears and do you know the way he would sell to the crowd All the fancy like things that you come up with He would all from like a motherfucker the greeting throwing the grenade celebration oh he's in so much they're going to want to

make sure he has something in his hands that he'll take advantage of people want to see exciting news why he could honestly be runner up dog he could stop it there's a there's absolutely no way the job marat is going to be one of the last two people left in the hunger games yeah don't know if i'm going that far he easily could be in my mind no i he's on either one of these extremes so i do understand why because he's either going to win it or he's going to be one of the first five out. I don't think that there's a middle run of like, yeah, John Morant put up a fight.

Do you think John Morant would serve better in an individual sport? Like fighting for his life? If you ask John Morant, this, absolutely. Maybe he is more of an individual sport athlete. Maybe that's where he would shine. So maybe that mindset would shine.

I mean, think about it from, of course, he would play to the crowd. He would get sponsors. Think about it when it comes to physical attributes. One of the most athletic players in the league. When you talked about angles, like almost, I don't want to say almost no one does like him, but he is like one of the most special players when he comes to getting his angles, athletically.

Yes, but what you said earlier about fodder. He's fodder? This feels very much like fodder, where Jal would have all of the gifts coming in. He would have all the tools that he requested and he's over there showing off everything that he has. And then boom. Showing the cameras? Yeah. Okay.

And then boom, you're gone. So easy liquor put up a fight. I think you'll put up a fight bare minimum. I'll accept that, but I know that I don't think John Moran is making a deep run. Okay. Paul George. What do we go with this? Good ally?

Is he a good ally, tough? Because he'd be hurt a lot. Well, like, if he doesn't have a podcast in the Hunger Games, where he's given, like, daily updates. His ass might want to go ahead and spectating, instead of actually playing. Is there any chance, Paul George, one of the Hunger Games? feel like he has that type of mental eye of the tiger for like a better word did we feel like he's dangerous with the ball and this age for him he's one of the first to go i'm coming after me immediately that that that is true because some of the injuries that he's had recently are just

he's slower now yeah just slower just regular injuries he can't create no separation no more oh he's easy like then he's not connecting on none of these punches anymore and he's not like this is a genius level intellect that's going to carry him like a chris paul or jimmy butler like there's no eye of the tiger there's no physical advantages anymore he's gonna swing and miss and then be like ballgame yeah he's easy like he's getting dumb it okay

Tyrese Halliburton when you want to talk about figuring shit out and getting it done despite the odds he defies the odds like nobody else to be a runner up for no reason he would make the series and the show but then again okay so we're talking about the mindset stuff he has a mindset stuff you runner up

this is also a physical battle very skinny very skinny do you have like does he have the right allies But he is very smart and can figure things out That's why I don't think he's running up I think don't sleep on him Yeah yeah because that makes more sense You might look at him and you think

If I get my hands on him It's over But he's gonna have some shit up his sleeve To pull out last second That he's gonna figure out That you better you better make sure You get your hands on him He's gonna know exactly what you're thinking about

He sees your move before you even think of your ones You better not miss if you miss He's gonna have a counter punch Okay DeMontis subonis First to go Why is he first to go For smart

He's not he's not he's not He's not fast. He's a tank, though. He's built. He can take hits. But he's also very... He's brute. He's very big, easy target to get...

He's a hard worker. He can take a, like, a bow and arrow to the chest and keep moving. Yeah. And not like a kill shot. You know what I mean? He's taking bowing arrows to the chest. I mean, if some... Out of everyone on this list, he could take it to most.

He can take damage. He is a hard worker. He's like, honestly, he's like... He's good not because of talent necessarily. Like, he's out through, you know, in real life. But, you know, he's there because he's a hard worker. get shit done he's like the baker mayfield of NBA stars he just figures it out and gets it done despite lack of physical gifts that mindset and desire to to figure it out that to me translates

he is he is very strong i'll give you that he doesn't get hurt as well i think he i think he can take a beating i hope the war of attrition in the hunger games you have to be able to withstand the elements and make it far and not let nature beat you before somebody else with a weapon can and you know what that's 30 i want him as ally you you guys are right If the kings haven't killed him by now, he'll be fine. So, okay, put up a fight. Oh, I was thinking don't sleep on him. Oh, you really think that he can make a run like that?

Yeah, like he's going to win the war of attrition. Don't sleep on it. I won't go that high. I think in between that. A person has to beat him. The arena will not beat him. The arena will not beat him. They will not.

And let's have the battle. Oh, man. Now, when those like cyber tigers, or whatever when they saw it. Cyber tigers. There are pit bulls. I have no idea

what they are. But you know exactly what I'm talking about. When the hounds come out. Yeah. Yeah. When the hounds come out, can he escape the hounds?

Yes. I think he's fucking spearing hounds. He's clotheslining hounds. He can hit and knock out two hounds. The rest of the other four, five, six. He can't outrun the hounds.

And so that's like that's not smart them though. It's a lot of them. I don't know. That's my biggest worry about Sabonis in the, in the arena. is the house. Okay.

LeBron James. I mean, one of the best bodies here. He's the most physically gifted here. He's the smartest here. One of them with Chris Paul, side by side. The best mixture of Braun and brains,

he's Chris Paul's argument plus Yonis's arguments. He's obviously belongs in winner. Okay. He obviously belongs. The only, like, what would you pick apart to say why he can't win? Because he's 40. He's 41.

Like, yeah. So is Chris Paul. Yeah. And he's just as smart as Chris Paul. ball and still six nine and can still take a beating can still inflict damage the only reason we say we'd have to say he's not a winner is if you want to do some

personality side stuff is there anything in him no because he will we've seen we've seen the cutthroat nature of lebron with allieships before so even if it gets to a certain part he's going to be able to do what he needs to do to propel himself forward and leave his allies

somewhere else so i i do feel like he has the the killer instinct to make all the moves necessary exactly i agree he has the ability to be conniving and just like switch last minute if need be the second that he knows like he's a liar getting down to the tires uh i need to go ahead and leave abandon this team and move on to the next chapter of my career okay he'll win by enemy necessary he's he's going to do whatever it takes he has no physical disadvantages no mental disadvantages built for tough okay win Carol, large human

being. The idea of him is fantastic and you would assume that yo, this motherfucker should be a winner. Then you start thinking about oh shit, like sometimes he just doesn't make the right decision. Maybe you could be a runner up. Ah, shit. Again, like you kind of have to be really smart to do that. Yeah, this sounds like first

to go. This sounds like first to go. I do think that Palo right now and he could put up a fight. I think that Palo is very big. On paper it is. He is going to be one of those guys who since from the moment that they were five they've been training for this moment just in case that they were chosen. Oh no. He's a district one tribute, the people that train for it and they volunteer. Yes. He's going to be one of those. We've seen him be in specialized schools and

stuff like that. He's been, he's been in those spaces. However, do you have what it takes to get it out the mud? Do you have, do you have what it takes to last however long the, the, the game's last? I think that everything on paper tells me you should have that ability and I like you but I'm not sure that in this moment right now for your life

you'd be able to this sounds like put up a fight because he's everything needed but you can just imagine he's like district one tribute like you said comes out here with wielding two axes you'd think he's this impossible thing

one-on-one and Steph Curry hits him in the forehead with a bone arrow yeah so put up a fight he's a boss level fight in the first half

of the games I gets dealt with yeah okay Devin Booker Pretty boy. Yo, he is not a no good situation ever. He's too nice a lot for the game. He is too not just a lot for the games.

He's not going to have that fire litem as necessary. He's like, bro, I'm just trying to survive, man. If he doesn't have someone to set him up, his situation has to be perfect. And of course, in this scenario, nothing is perfect. And he's not fast and quick. And he's not strong. He doesn't have the,

he's kind of like Luca and they're athletic for the NBA, but for fighting to the death. But he is. guild like i'm sure he could start up some fires i know i think i can also like purify some water he'll tap a tree get some sap coming out yeah like i'm sure he'll find find ways to be effective okay uh but yeah i don't see any reason to say that he would be a strong contender yeah but i don't see any reason to see why he won't be like a good ally he'll get you done is he a see a good ally these days he it's just like whatever he's just kind of regular he's fodder i don't know if he's

necessarily irregular. Like, if you put them in the worst situation imaginable, like, yeah, damn near anyone's a break playoffs. Okay, would you, we're just, fax. No, no, he cannot succeed in the worst case scenario. He needs a decent situation. He's a ceiling raiser to a team. This is Hunger Games.

And this is an individual sport. Easy look, I'm sorry. Tyler Hero. First to go. First to go for sure. You're too flashy. After they get ready to go out of here by collective action, they're going straight for Tyler here.

They're gunning for him. Who can get him? that notch on their belt first. Coming for his ass. Taking his ass. Jalen Williams. Great ally. Pretty much the perfect ally, actually.

That's, yeah. Yeah, that's a great out of half by your side. It's a great ally. But, like, by himself, he's not accomplishing anything. He's not going to win. Yeah, but he's too funny. He's too goofy. Yeah, but if you have him on your team, he's going to make sure, like,

morale is going to be high. I can do, I can do the things that you don't necessarily want, want to do. Go forage. Right. And we can figure out of what. way to just keep us alive for the time being. And what's going to happen is, especially if him and Shea are in the arena together, they're going to pull the move.

They're not going to kill each other. Yeah. Yeah. And then Shea's going to fucking brutalized jade him. Okay, Shay, what do you want to do with him? Lanky athlete, kind of like Winby has a functional athleticism. I think he can move around a little bit. I think he's bendable.

I think he won't fall and break his leg. I think he can take a hit in a very bendy. fashion, skilled. He's real cerebral. I sure he can honestly be a runner up. So here's my question with Shea is because we've seen Shea be able to adapt to any type of environment. However, do you have the room to adapt when any mistake is going to cost you your life?

Yeah. And do we feel like he can put his nose in the dirt and succeed in this outdoors world or is he also a pretty boy? I don't think so I don't think he's also a pretty boy I will say that there like again there are lapses that he has sometimes mentally and he's

not like a natural born like a reader of the outdoors nature I don't think he is that at all is he comfortable with being uncomfortable yeah I don't think he'll have the ability to like if I'm his teammate if I'm his teammate can he go ahead and like

create some again create some like call out if I'm in trouble. Can you like whistle to birds or something like that? No, I don't think he does. I think he's don't sleep on them. I don't think you can deal with the outdoors. Yeah, I don't know.

I feel like Shay already also has his IG caption figured out for it when he's like, listen, when I get out of here, this photo dump's going crazy. And you know, history says don't bet again Shay goes to Alexander that he continues to level up and continues to find ways to succeed, even if you don't necessarily imagine that

when you meet him for the first time. So, okay, let's go. Yeah, let's go, don't sleep on him. Yeah. But I do think he's going to die to natural causes. That's fair. I do think he cannot survive the outdoors. That's fair.

Alperin Sangoon. Now, that is a man who will not bad at natural causes. Honestly, any Turkish big man or any European big man for that matter, I'm inclined to think you go for tough. Put up a fight. The Turks, we've seen them as a collective. They stand very strong behind their own. So he's going to have a lot of sponsors.

True, true. He's going to be able to have all the tools necessary. And anything that he wants will be able to be able to be. available to him. I think we've seen Sangu also level up and be able to to improve. I, I like, I like single.

Okay. And he's going to be more offensive than defensive, which means that he's going to be a little bit more aggressive, take more chances. I think he can last a little bit longer than what many people think that he should last. So don't sleep on him? Either don't sleep or put on, put up a fight.

I think he's a little bit better than put up a fight. I just inclined to give the European bias that. Yeah, I'll say don't sleep. It's kind of like how all those. those Europeans and the UFC, like Khabi and them, I forget where they're from. There's that specific breed of European. Balkan?

Yeah, no, it's not Balkan. It's something like that. Those guys are just like bread to be U.S. fighters. They're fucking insane. They're animalistic with how they fight. And they all like, I don't know, they just like band together. It's a very small country, but they have an insane amount of UFC fighters.

I kind of feel like Turkish people would be equally inclined to win the Hunger Games. That's fair. Donald Mitchell. I think I would definitely want him as an ally. smiley you just want to be a good vibe guy i mean again i cannot imagine him outdoors getting down and dirty why surviving the elements why what do you mean he just doesn't strike me as a i can survive outdoors type of guy i don't know pretty boy i don't know i've seen him i've seen him like can he fish has he posted like fishing stuff on instagram steady fish is he resourceful that's a good question i don't

know i know he's good at baseball i know his like skills are they go above the basketball court okay so naturally like you have to imagine that there are like outlier schools that are there yeah he's an athlete that's what you're saying he's an athlete like he you jump real high he can jump high run past he can sell to the people really well we clearly saw it with skims i think he's a good candidate strikes me as a district one district two depa guy on paper kind of like palo on paper very good candidate has checks all the boxes he'll definitely put up a fight always i don't know what the mental side is there huh i don't know what the mental side is there to win That's why I think he could put up a fight

Yeah, I agree That's fair Like you'll never expect him to win But he's going to go out swinging Like he's gonna have like one of the most impressive scenes That we were putting together That's true, yes It would be a satisfying killer

Whoever wins Yeah, exactly Last star here There are a few extra bonus people Damien Lillard Damian Lillard Runner up, low key I've seen

We've seen Dame be able to make the best out of pretty poor circumstances. If he gets a bow and arrow, you can do a lot of what Steph can do. Yeah. And so I think going... That is very true. He is the most step-like player.

Yeah. And going into this, Clutch. Knowing that he is clutch, it's an individual... It's an individual game. Like, he's not going to have to rely on messing with certain other people.

You get to pick your ally, like hand chosen. Because the last time when he tried to pick, they said, no, you're going to be an ally with this guy. Now he gets... It's a... He can finally show that let me be the sole contributor to my vision and I'll succeed. And we've seen when Dame is in, is in unique conditions.

We saw him in the bubble. That's basically 100 games arena. Holy shit. Put him in the bubble. No noise from the outside. Just straight activity. Oh, you know what that means that Anthony Davis, welcome to runner ups. As Mr. Bubble.

That's fair. We can think about the bubble enough. You are at LeBron winner because he won the bubble. Okay. Well, then what is Jimmy Buller doing then? Can he not be a win? He's right there.

Oh, because he went to the bubble as well, though. Yeah, yeah, but he didn't win the bubble. He's running up there too. He's running up everywhere. The two times, again, the two times that he's been to the finals, they didn't win.

So it does seem like he's going to be. But he was an eighth seed going to the finals too. Yeah, he's probably not going to be a high seed in this. He's getting no sponsor. People are expecting him to be in as you look. And he's going to make his way to runner up. You know what? I do think he's going to troll the people too hard and he's going to, again, like, run to the grind because of certain tendencies and not really, like, be sponsor worthy.

Nah. I can see that. Bad for business. Yeah. Antics. Well, but he does like to put on the show for the media, too, in terms of, like, you know, he's going to show up well. He's going to go ahead and make a grand entrance. Okay.

So those are the last three stars we have. Now we have three bonus players. All three of us added in one bonus non-star player. First up, we have Donovan's who picked Bobby Portis. Oh, yeah. Don't sleep on Bobby. Don't sleep on Bobby? Crazy eyes.

Crazy eyes has punched a teammate before. You know, he's about that action. Violent nature? Yes. I think that Bobby Portis deserves to be and don't sleep on him. Don't sleep on him. Either don't sleep on him or put up a fight. I have a lot of faith in Bobby.

I will be sponsoring him. So that's what I'm going to say don't sleep. But if you guys want to say put up a fight, he can go there. I think he has a large good built body type too that is built for the hungry games to survive hand-to-hand combat. He's thickly there. Tree trunk. Let's go.

Don't sleep. Okay. Don't sleep in Bobby Portis. Don't sleep near Bobby Portis. That's crazy eyes. If you catch him falling in sleep as an ally. Yeah, you did. Snuffed out.

And Moe's bonus player, T.J. McConnell. TJ's a great bonus player to have. Because, again, similar to Tyrese Hallibor a little bit in terms of, you know, you don't want to doubt him ever. There's some, obviously, he's limited. physically. The most limited player here, but don't let that fool you because you're thinking, oh, I'm going to take advantage of him. Oh, he's a mismatch. Oh, he can't do anything offensively to me or defensively. He's so wildly annoying and he's the type of player to not give up. He's smart as hell

as well. He's aware of his strengths and he is one of the best at that. He can definitely climb up trees. He's smart enough to go ahead and set up all types of booby booby traps. I honestly think he belongs and don't sleep on him. Bare minimum, get out of a half. You never want to want this guy against you at all. I definitely don't want him against me. You definitely want him on your side. Yeah. Is he much more fun to be with him than against him for sure?

Yeah, I feel like he's the definition of put up a fight. Yeah, because he shouldn't, he shouldn't, but he will. He'll find a way to put up a fight, even though he should, by all accounts, be first to go. Yeah, you're going to have to take the extra step to make sure that T.J. is actually out of there. You're going to stab him, and he's going to get up again and, like, still reach for you, be clawing. Like, you're going to have to, like, really, really stab him. Yeah, but I want someone like that on my side.

Because I know that he's going to definitely derail plants for other people. But the problem is you don't want him on your side because maybe he's a little too much dog. And he gets his way to the end and you've got to deal with him. And I don't want to deal with him at all. So I want to steer clear of him from the jump and hope somebody else takes him out. You got to believe in yourself. You got to know his. Again, yeah, he's not, he's not an ally.

But that's what I'm saying. At this point, it is put up a fight. But if you do think that he has enough dog. So you think he'll backdoor you. I mean, at a, no, he's honorable. He's honorable. He's honorable. He has to at some point.

because the rules necessitate it, I don't want to get to that point. Damn, TJ, you strike a lot of fear at all, but I ain't why. That might mean, you are, you might be a runner up, bro. Don't sleep on him. Because he's the type to kill us

in our sleep, bro. He'll do some nasty shit to us. He is. That's all I'm like, he might be higher than... You struck a lot of fear in our hearts. Yeah, he does. Last name I are here, my bonus player.

The list couldn't be complete without him. Stephen Adams. Winner. winner or runner-ups but loki who's killing stephen adams who's taking that man out put him in winter

put him in winter then no one's dealing with him if he wants to if you make him mad that gentle giant you get him going and which he would be in an arena in which he either gets mad or goes away forever I can't imagine anybody can do with that you're a damn fool

if you think I'm arguing against Stephen Adams I'm good on that the strength the durability the eyes it's he's like the mountain from game of thrones yeah the only reason why he doesn't do that more is because adam silver would find him if that type of behavior was encouraged not even necessitated he's doing he's killing everybody he would capture a hound and grill that motherfucker just create fire with his fucking hands bro yeah he's not an issue exactly no i trust even at him i think if he's really hungry there's an apple tree he can knock the whole thing down with his

shoulder honestly just put him at the top he is the favorite okay he's the favorite there you go We'll give it his own tier favorite. Yeah. Okay. You know, I think we picked a good top 10 that could win it. So the top we have Stephen Adams, Janice, Steph, Chris Paul, LeBron, Wembe, Jimmy Butler, Dame, and Anthony Davis who are there for bubble reasons. I respect that. Those are the only possible winners, I think.

Is there nobody else that we can elevate to get an actual 10? Do you think Dremont could have won? No. Everything we talked about, like, good ally makes sense, but this is an individual game. Do we feel like Draymond has that? like dickhead in him? No, he did. I don't think he's a good individual player.

I mean, he's not paired up with Steph in the start though. Yeah. Maybe. Is the hot-headed nature going to come to bite him? Maybe. I think it will. His biggest strength will be his greatest weakness. Yeah, but I guess that's it then.

This is nobody else on the bottom that I'd want to bet on winning. We should, I forget, Trey's not here. Where the hell would Trey go? First to go. Not in runner up. First to go. Trey's a lick. He's a lick.

Easy. Bro, he's so skilled. He is so skilled. He is fit for us. He can climb up trees like a motherfucker. That man is slight. He's brilliant. He's slight.

Now, let me see you. Hand-to-hand. Yeah, try to go hand-to-hand. He's going to take out his fucking, stab you in the ribs and you're done for. You know what character is, Sue? He's that girl who, like, throws hell and knives. She died immediately.

No. No, she didn't die immediately. I know you're right. She made it kind of far. Yeah, she made it far as fuck. Yeah, but she wasn't like a real threat to win. She was fodder. But she made it far.

Okay. Okay, you're right. I guess he would put up a fight. Yeah, he should have been on here. He would have been like, top nine. It was like this year two girl, I think? Yeah. Okay.

And there we go. That is our tier list of every single NBA star in the league right now. For the most part, we skipped a few, but most NBA stars. I hope you took this seriously. I hope you learned a thing or two because we're here to educate on them all things NBA. Hell yeah. And with that being said, we're done educating. This is the first half of the show.

We're done being smart here. We're done doing what we can to educate the youth. Now it's time we eat some crayons. now it's time we have some fun. No one does it like us. We march. I got a question. Before we move on to TikTok time,

out of the three of us, where do you think we would lie on that your list? On the hungry of your list? Yeah. Oh, I'm winning. I think you're an easy look. I know you're an easy look. I think we are taking advantage of you.

Oh. Immediately. Like, I am imposing my will. on to you. Hey, yo. All right. I think I'm

voicing my will onto you. I will. I will kill you. We have a very different conversations. If that's important, the only thing I will do,

I'm gay going out with a kill. Welcome to TikTok time. Apparently Moe is going to pose his will on me. What we're doing today is not that. We are starting with a draft.

And today, we're going to draft NBA lineups with only number five overall NBA draft picks. That's true. So players would draft the number five in the respective years throughout the entire course of NBA history. The draft order is Donovan, me, Mo, point guard through center.

Donovan, who is the number one overall pick in this draft? See, this is hard. This is one where I actually wish I was like second or third. Yeah. But starting off, power forward, give me Kevin Garnett. Oh, okay. Interesting pick. This one's tough because of positional scarcity.

I'm not mad at that. Then number... give me Dwayne Wade I'll pick the second best player here I think there's a few stars to pick from so this is interesting strategy to go to the big man first

you have a good base here you do definitely do definitely do I feel blessed in this situation okay so for my first pick because of the way this fifth pick works

for some reason NBA history no bigs give me to Marcus Cousins F5 oh okay okay interesting yeah gotta get to Markets cousin's F5 who would you pairing with big boogie. Pairing with Big Boogie. Go ahead and give

me let's size down a little bit and give me Scotty pimping at my full. I was about the pig pinpin there's no wings. There's no wings. Yeah. Okay, so now I'm punting the three. You said there's no bigs. You didn't pick

somebody who's better than DeMarcus cousins. Give me Charles Barkley at the four. Great. Yeah, I can't believe you didn't pick him. Yeah, I know. I need someone who can offer me more rebounding. The Charles Barclay? He's a great rebounder, but again, he's the rebound.

It's substantially better than Jamalcus. He is the rebound. I need a big man. I need someone who could take up space. He's just a little bit taller. It's all it is. Yeah. All right, let's see.

All right, let's do this. Garnett, you are now playing the five. Okay. Because at my four, we will take Kevin Love. Oh, okay. That's an interesting offensive combination. And mind you, in this offensive, I'm telling Kevin Garnett, just take a step back, right?

Takes a threes. Right, you can take threes as well. It's okay. So I, yeah, so I'll take, I'll take Kevin Love at the Power 4. We have Kevin Garnett right there at the, at the four. At the two, give me somebody who won a championship with Kevin Garnett. I would take Ray Allen on my two guards. Shit, that's a great big.

Okay. Great big. Damn. Okay. So we got Ray Allen there. I got a one or three and a five. you already picked a three the threes are tough man

there's not a lot of threes here and I pick my four I don't have a five yet do I no but you guys already have your five so let's go so yeah you can wait point guard give me Walt Frazier at point guard

I want two big guards leading my team I like that okay one old head team good job okay that's not bad that's not bad at all okay so spinning back I need a wing

You need a one, two, one, a four. I need a wing. So I'm going to go ahead and, oh, yeah, I put Pippin at my four and at my three, give me Vince Carter. Okay. Yeah, so. Small-ass team, okay. Your team has no defense. Pippman is a modern day four.

He's great. He's a great defense. He will be a great defense. Yeah, six, nine can guard everybody. Yeah. He could also play a three today, though. I don't know if he'd be guaranteed to be a four, but he could. If Tatum can play the four, so can Scotty Barnes.

Anybody can play the four. Scottie Barnes set up. I don't know where that came from. I meant to say Jason Tatum. What the fuck? No, you meant to say Pippin. I don't know how you got Scottie Barnes.

I have no idea. Me neither. They have the same person. Okay. Now you got no guards. Who are you putting in your guards? Okay. So it's a lot of point guards at the five spot.

Yeah. There is a lot of point guards. But I can't let you, hmm. I can't let you get this guy. I got a lot of length around me. Give me Trey Young at my one. Oh, you think Trey Young is the one who's dying to have?

Okay. Give me Trayong at my one. We got him. We baited him. You got Tray Young. Three. Who am I going to pick my three? Ah, I could go with an OG who doesn't play offense.

I can go with the young guy who doesn't play offense. Or I can play small and kind of do what you did and put a shooting guard at three like Vince Carter. But I already got two guards. Oh, I can go role player and go with a shooter. You know what? Give me some athlete. No, because I didn't need space. No, we don't do that.

I don't have a lot of spacing. I got straight slasters. Give me Mike Miller at the three. Okay. Give me a real role player. Okay. Okay. Yeah, we're spacing the floor for all these guys.

Thank you. I'm glad you did that. Decent. At my three, give me, give me the young boy. Give me a D. Give me a Sartrethampton.

Yeah, I was thinking about it, but I need spacing. Yeah. And I need a Sart Thompson because a lot of the, the other, the other point guards here, they're not, they're not defenders, right?

So you have, you have KG, you have a SAR. Ray Allen, obviously, can hold his own, whatever. At my point guard, give me see, okay, so I have two options here, really, really, you have no ball handling right now. I know, you have no playmaking at all. No passes.

Yeah. And that is why. No penetrators. Darius Garland will be running on. Oh, okay. We're picking on him with Frasier and Wade. Easy look. And you know, you guys approach this as if there was no good centers, And all that tells me is you guys didn't look far back enough in your history. Give me finals MVP, Dave Cowens at center.

Yeah, good job. There was actually seven. You can't tell me five facts about Dave Cowens, man. What the fuck? White, six, nine, undersized, finals MVP, Celtic. What does that mean? Those are five facts. There's a five facts.

I could name ten players who are exactly like that. And I picked the best one. I picked the best one by far. Yeah, right. So to close this out, okay, clearly I have Trey, who's not the greatest defender. The Marcus Cousins can save the, exact same thing about him. Defense Carter,

the same thing about him. Yeah, no, I'm sure we can go ahead. He'll be all right. Yeah, it'll be all right. At the 3.

You got Cowens, Barkley and Miller, bro. Let's relax. So to round us out at my two guard, no defense. Go ahead and give me

Jalen sucks. Do you think Dave Cowens is? He's a great defender. You watch Dave Cowens highlights? I actually did because of our episode. What is he?

Give me something positionally about his defense. Jaylon sucks. You don't know shit about Dave Cowens. What are you talking about? I didn't for a while, but we did just talk about it two weeks ago.

Just because you forgot the rankle. Didn't mean I did? I do a little bit of baseline information. Trust, brother. I'm not losing sleep over Cowan's. Not even. He seems like it's a nobody. He's a Hall of Famer.

Yeah, we just found us out like 40 minutes ago. No, nice. Like, he was a guy. He was a guy. No one never mentioned his name in NBA history? That is not true. He's a finals MVP. People are mentioning his name and

be history. Stop. Seriously? Brother. So I've never heard you say his name ever before. No, but I'm saying, I mean, there's a lot of people that like... Just we were ignorant. Doesn't mean he's not...

Come on us. That's it. Yeah, but even us like... I mean, come on. Like, he's... Shut up. No, you talk. We don't talk about him.

Like, he's a goon. What are you talking about? He's the final MVP in a hall of the famous. He's one of the best players in history. All right, somebody listeners. I have Walt Frazier, Dwayne Wade, Mike Miller, Charles Barkley, and Dave Cowans. And I have Darius Garland, Ray Allen, Assarst Thompson, Kevin Love, and then Kevin Garnett. Dave. Yeah, I like mine. I pick me. Oh, this was the Big Red. Yeah, I didn't

know him, but I knew his nickname. Damn. Yeah, I was disrespectful. I hate this dude. So much. This is a terrible conversation for credibility. Stop it. So much. Who's your team? Say your team all right. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I hate you so much. Yeah. Brother, say your team, bro. He's one of the greatest players at NBA history. All right. So I got Trey, Jalen Suggs, Vince Carter, Scotty Pippen, and DeMarcus.

He was talking to me like I picked, like, no, no, it's not what I was talking to you as if you picked a bum. It's just that how you were coming at my team. I'm like, I know this motherfucker's not talking right now. Oh, your team does suck. My team is better than yours. No, it's not. Charles Barkley and Dwayne and Walt Frazier.

Trey is better than Walfraiser. Shut the fuck, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love Walsh Fraser. I love him. I love him so much. Come back, come back, come back, come back. Listen, Miller's getting, Miller's getting cried. Miller's getting cried. Scottie's better than Walt Fraser.

Yeah, in the modern game today, like, Rolfers is not going to know what to do. He's too fried. Power to him. Like, ultimately, like, I love, I love that, but he's getting fried. This is the most crowd eater conversation you ever had. Getting fried? In the modern NBA, yes, of course. What do you mean?

I mean, that's not unreasonable. Okay, man, he's not, he's not Bob Coosie. He didn't play in the 40s. Damn, okay. He didn't play in the 40s. You're correct. You're correct. My offense is Maliwopping your team, though, for sure.

I'm putting him like 170. What's 70? Yeah. Trey Young and DeMarcus cousins. Hell yeah. Who on your team is like, Scotty Pippman has to do all the heavy lifting. Jalen Suggins is right there too when he comes to defense.

Scotty Pryman is a great playmaker too alongside Trey and Jailen Sucson do things as well. DeMarcus can do things too. I have the best offense here for sure. Scotty is going to have to guard Barclay. Shout out to Jalen Suggs. He's amazing. He's no idea what to do with Dwayway.

I have four of the top 50 players. of all time. The fit isn't that bad. It's not the best in the world, but I have four of the top 50 players that ever live. You're playing four and five. I have two guys who won a champion team together.

I have a 45% three-point shooting standing in the corner. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to SARS right there. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, like people are ignoring a sorry.

But I guess you could say I'm playing 405 with Trey too. On defense. But my 405 is like, I have two guys who won a championship, one of the five, one of the three to four best power forwards of all time before step

the best shooter of all time wait wait wait wait oh so okay before step yeah cool yeah okay you have a good team Kevin Love who's one of the best shooting big men I mean I guess I mean it's not a lot he's like up there

I sure to me again I suit you mean I don't know he's not one of the best shooting big man but he's a good score I mean in his heyday it was more like post stuff if he played 10 years later he'd been spraying No, but even whenever he was in Minnesota, like he could shoot through. Yeah, but not like,

we're the best of all time. Like he wasn't a Jackington game. Yeah, he's not like, but still like you still have spacing. You do that spacing. Yeah, yeah, you still have that. Yeah, everyone can shoot on your team. You could survive the ASR spacing is what you're saying.

It's not an ASR. You definitely can. Okay. You, you probably, I guess you have the best fit. But you also are the worst talent. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Donovan. His fits the best.

No, I think my talent's better than his. Um, no. No. Uh, you're, well, no, it, it, my, my talent is definitely better. I can't tell what his defense is going to be like, because he has three holes on defense and two really amazing. Three holes. Who's words?

Vince Carter is not a good defender like that. He's not, me, he's not terrible. Out of both of our teams, I have, I have the best player on both of our teams. But we all, but both of our teams have somebody you can hide Vince Carter on, so that won't be an issue. So never mind. And then even, even Vince Carter, like, shout out to him, him and Ray Allen at worst is we're saying watch.

Yeah, see, Trey can defend Garland, though. Trey has nowhere to hide against my team. I guess you can hide on Mike Miller. Miller, but then Vince Carter has to defend Walt Frazier. Oof. Yeah, you have, you have great second options. You know what I'm saying? You do have hell of second options.

I do what I have a hell of a second option. I have the best offense. I have the best office here for sure. I have the amazing beat team. The 50 greatest players of all time. You don't have the best offense. J. I have the best playmaker here at the point guard position.

We're doing mass substitutions. Yeah. You got it. Varsity's talking right now. Varsity is talking, mean, the only argument against me is if you think Frazier and Wade is bad spacing, but I'm like,

so fucking figure it out. I don't know, I'm not that worried about it. You have one good shooter on your team. Yeah, yeah. Just a one three-point shooter. And it's okay because there's some of the greatest players of all time. Like the scoring is insane, but yeah, the spacing isn't good. That's the one downside of my team.

If I had a good spacer, I won the big men positions, it would be over. And guess what? Basketball was played before 2020. Like, people, they'll be okay. Yeah, and it's not like Duwait is like you're going to stand off of him in the corner. These aren't like non-shooter. It's not five of SARS. It's not five of SARS.

But I definitely don't have good spacing though. yeah okay also trades also just not scoring on the sars so what are you talking about right now yeah i also have the body's lock up trade with wade and fraser yeah wait and fraser are going to lock themselves don't make me call pat biv don't make me call pat biv to do what you can stand on tables yeah okay next thing we're going to do we're going to talk about where NBA players ranked when there were prospects in high school mo's going to show us two players me and don't have to decide where they who ranked higher Who peaked Tyler in high school.

Yes, exactly. Now, mind you, they're in high school, so they're like roughly 16, 17 years old. Sometimes player go ahead and jump a couple classes on class to get into the league earlier. But can you guys guess which player was ranked higher in high school? So basically, who was more Harold as a prospect? We had to remember who was like a late riser and took a little surprise. Exactly. Okay.

MPJ or Paula Bencaro. Oh, MPJ was higher. It's MPJ. MPJ was supposed to be fucking Kevin Durant. He was supposed to be the guy before his body fell apart. I'm almost certain he was number one in his class. Okay. And I'm guessing Palo was like three or something.

But Palo wasn't even like before that year started. Palo wasn't even supposed to be the number one overall pick. So it would be Chet. No, it was supposed to be Jabari. Oh. Jabari Smith like before we were going through that whole process, Barrett had a lot of noise for being the number one pick. Oh, pre-draft.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was also a surprise because like he, he, I don't think Jabari Smith was like number one this class though. He did people about surprise at Auburn. I think Chet might have been number one in that class. I'm going to double check. Either way, I'm going MPJ. Yeah, MPJ has to be higher. Yeah, MPJ is number one.

Yeah, MPJ was number one and Paulo was number four. Oh, number four in this class. Okay. Yeah. I guess that makes sense. I thought he'd be a little bit harder than that. But yeah, MPJ was the prospect. People thought he was going to be like Zion Williamson and then injuries happen.

Yeah, he was supposed to be like Kevin Durant, literally. Yeah, yeah. Tough. So Chet was number one in his class. Number two was Jaden Hardy. Oh, okay. Yeah, and he went to Ignite. Yeah, so wildly different.

okay they'd be killing people's careers we got to investigate oh yeah yeah called Pablo man it worked out for exactly no one yeah okay next next player oh um we got that's supposed to be jailing green my bad and then also

anthony Edwards that is not jailing green okay I'm pretty sure Anthony Edwards wasn't thought of as being like a peak guy before the college season started so I don't know if he's number one he wasn't thought to be number one draft pick I don't know if he's number one in his class Yeah, and I remember Jalen Green, even before his year at Ignite, I remember seeing him starting to Boblo.

And it was a big deal that got him because he's the top pick. So, Jalen Green. Yes, it is Jalen Green. Okay, yeah, that is not Jalen Green on screen, but that's supposed to be Jalen Green. Ron, Lyskin, not saying to Green. Yeah, Anthony Edwards ranked at number four. He was viewed as, oh, shit, like, this guy's really nice over there in Atlanta, but people did see him as like, he kind of has a gunner's mentality. Yeah, and he was, like, raw.

He wasn't, like, a good shooter yet. Like, he was straight athlete. He developed a lot in college. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Yeah, Jalen Green. I don't know he's number one, but that makes total sense given.

I remember it was a huge deal that Gia Ignite got him. Yeah, they viewed him as, like, the athlete compared him to Jordan and shit. Add him few ones to the fire. Who was ranked higher in high school? Trey Young or Patrick Beverly. Patrick Beverly, what he has a name in these streets.

Ah, so Patrick Beverly didn't start his career in the NBA, didn't get drafted, had to play overseas. I can't imagine a year prior. He was some top recruits. he had to have been like number 100 in his class yeah I number 100 even then that still seems kind of high

because he can you guess what number he was he took a hard route to get there like he had to persevere and salute to him can't imagine that me and he's ranked higher it had to be trade young yeah was he one I'll go 162 I'll say 65 in his class maybe no low key he probably unranked even then yeah that's what I'm saying like once he too is still high

yeah he probably wasn't ranked because he probably flew under the radar and had to grind his way there. I'm going, Tray Young. Pour more gasoline on the fire. Trey Young is 23 and Patrick Beverly is 76. Okay, 76. And listen, salute. The fact that Pabbev got there?

Beautiful. Didn't start off the hottest side. That makes sense. 76 is very impressive. We don't rank the same, right? We don't celebrate wins the same. See, we're in different tiers of beings. You asked Trey Young.

He said, relax, buddy. Trey has only been 23 is interesting. Yeah. He wasn't like that. He was like that in high school. He was like, fucking goddamn, get up, and shooting the ball. But that year of Oklahoma, he, that was insane.

Yeah. I'm assuming he was really fucking tiny in high school. He probably contributed. He had to have been miniature. Yeah, he was light, super light. Darius Garland or Jalen Brunson. Who ranked higher? I'll go.

Garland went to Vanderbilt. Brunton went to Nova. But I think I still will go with Garland. Yeah, I'm assuming Jaylon Brunson was very unathletic in high school. Yeah, because all of the guys from Villanova, like, it's a great program, but all of those guys went there and you knew we're not going, like, to the league in year one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, we're going to come to Villanova and we're going to stay here and grow and build. And most, most of the times those guys aren't the ones that are, like, more highly rated. I will go with Darius Garland. I do Darius Garland's name, like, five games into his freshman season. I didn't know Jen and Brunson's name for quite a while. Until they won't translate it. Yeah. I'm going to assume Garland was higher.

Yeah. The reason why you do know Darius Garland's name, like, five. games into the season is because he fucking like got hurt and had a season ending injury yeah and he still got drafted highly so that means he had to have been a high recruit you are correct but you guys are wrong they're ranked the exact same oh okay different draft classes of course or different years but they're ranked the exact same so jett then why did jimbert to stay so long he kind of he shows out to be one and done yeah exactly just a good guy just a team first guy and it's weird too because he probably should have left earlier because i mean he did win of course

but he was, wasn't he his second round draft pick? He was. So it's like he probably should have left earlier. Yeah, I don't remember his production in college, so it made sense. I can't remember. He's about the program. Yeah, he wanted to stay right for the team. Learned to be a man underneath the real coach.

With his friends. I like that. Who ranked higher Tyler Hero or Bronny James? Oh, Bronny ranked pretty highly. Tyler Hero was in Kentucky. Kentucky doesn't pick up non-recruits that are nobody's. Yeah, he is one of them Kentucky guards who made it to an all-star team. He also, did he come off the bench in college?

I can't, I, I, I cannot remember. I mean, people play one year. I can't remember. Pretty sure he started. I will go with Tyler here because even though that Bronie was like a, like, he wasn't a nobody in terms of like a recruit, I do, I still do remember. He can't be a nobody nowhere. He's Bronny's like LeBron.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Literally LeBron. His name is LeBron. Yeah. I still like do remember going into his freshman year where people are like, hmm, like, let's, let's see what this, like this Bronny thing is all about. I distinctly remember John McVoney ranking Bronny 12.

I remember that number at some point I'm going to say Brani's higher Okay, and you are correct 20 was ranked 20 Tyler Hero just at 30 I remember the John of the Gavoni gas 12 overall before the heart issues Yeah, wow

Yeah, he was like that genuinely He really was like he was Top of your prospect Yeah, tenacious defender Incredibly athletic bro He was a gifted shooter as well He was like that It was well deserved to

Lanzo Ball or Zion Williamson Lanzo Ball Lonsable had to be number one Or was he two defaults But I think No, no That's like Josh Jackson or something

In that class number one It might have been like draft class I'll go Zion No Zion came into the He was number three or four in his class Because ahead of him Or J. Bear and Reddish He wasn't supposed to be the guy

In that team necessarily He took people by surprise a little bit I bet Lanzobal was top two In his class Okay Lonzo Okay, you are absolutely wrong It's Zion Williamson

He ranked a number two Who was one RJ? Yeah, RJ Bayer was number one I thought Redis is above him too. Man, so what's all this noise about? Like, oh, Cam Redis should have been the guy who never, this whole time. Well, Cam's not all me three. This whole time, I thought that Cam was, like, number one.

And that's why everybody was like, yeah, Cam Redish is like a dog. He was supposed to be the guy. No, yeah, Arj Bayer was number one. And as time went on, yeah, his name just like slowly fell off once he's going to. Longs was Josh Jackson, it was one of the top guys, Fultz. Was Tatum one of the top three? I believe Tatum was there It was Fox

Went to Kentucky Maybe it was Fox Let's see It was what That was a stacked ass class It was a disgusting class Was that the 17

17 drafts Was 16 high school class Okay Yeah I know Josh Jackson Number one I think Wasn't he? No actually

Harry Jiles was number one Oh Harry Jowl He was like He was He was supposed to be Like how you view MPJ

It's like that even worse On both side Because his ceiling Was drivel in the ball Yeah And his like demise in NBA was even more. Where was Josh Jackson?

What happened? I mean, hair jobs. He tore his ACL, right? Okay. Yeah, he got several big injuries. Yeah, he had so many injuries. Yeah. Okay.

All right. Jason Tatum or Cam Reddish. Well, Cam Reddish. I think he was number three in his class, wasn't he? I'll go Tatum. Okay. Well, he just,

it's tough to fair for this class. I think, was Cam Reddish. Five? I think Taylor, I think Reddish was three and Tatum was like five or six. I think they were both really high up there. There's no way that they got. It was a one, two, three for dude. I think it was one, two, three.

I know everybody was at the top, but I didn't think it was one, two, three. I want to say it was because outside of them in that class, Garland, who we just saw, where was Garland ranked that we just saw? Darius Garland was ranked at number 16. Yes, he was 16. He went high in that class.

Outside of that, like, John Morant wasn't that high. I can't remember the top NBA picks I translated. I want to say Cambridgesters is top three. Outside would say, too, for disquoise. Okay. They are ranked the exact same. Three for three. Duke did indeed have. RJ Barrett, Zion and Cameras

that team was supposed to be historic Wow Crazy. Yeah, people were going nuts when Zion I think Zion was the last assignment Mm-hmm I think Cambridged was the first assign He thought it was to be his team

That everybody came He was like okay I guess me and RJ two men up That's fine Zion's here too Fuck Yeah Yeah yeah exactly Okay both number three

That makes sense Yeah, it was different Legend Yeah So don't get don't get me Thinking and salivating about things That was that was different And Derek Rose or Kyrie Irving?

I think Kyrie was one, wasn't he? I feel like it has to be Kyrie just because he got hurt 11 games in him, still the number of Yeah, still number one. So maybe he's lit those 11 games up. I agree. I was a thing. I'm pretty sure Kyrie was like top three in his class. And Derek Rose went into Memphis.

I don't think that's, I think if he was top three in his class, he didn't want to like Duke or something. But wasn't that like some, you know, NCAA like violations with going on with Memphis? Because Coach Kyle was there at that time, right? I don't remember. Coach Kyle was there. but I don't remember violations. Any time, I mean, there's always, you know.

Yeah. People are being taken care of. So I understand that. I'll go with Kyrie, though. Yeah, the fact that Kyrie played 11 games was still number one overall. He had to have some serious catch rate before that. I'm going to assume Kyrie was number one and higher than Derek Rose. I love the way you guys thinking you are correct.

Number three, though. Three, D-Roles was five. Okay. Who's one and two in Kyrie's class? Oh, that was, he was 2011 draft, so the 2010 draft class? Yeah, he was. Was Michael Kickers above him in high scoring? Let me see right now.

I bet Michael KG was dumb high. Yeah, he was an athlete. Who was in that draft class in 2011 in NBA? Paul George. Paul George. Co. Why was there? But they weren't top picks. Good draft.

Very good draft. Jimmy Butler's in that class too. Yeah, exactly. Clay Thompson is in that class as well. Damn. Yeah. But then these guys are top picks. I don't know who does.

There must have been a lot of this point. Number one. Number two. Harrison Barnes and Jared Selinger. Harrison Barnes was a problem. Yeah, it was a problem. I went ahead and clicked on... This is all, according to ESPN, by the way,

I went ahead and clicked on what they talked about Harrison Barnes, and they said that he repeatedly scored with his Paul Pierce-like middle game. Okay, shout out his middle game. That did not come to fruition whatsoever in the league, but... That is peak analysis. And that's okay, sure. That's okay. Next up.

Next up, we got Draymond Green or Shea Gilgis Alexander. Oh, she was in Canada. Does that hold him back in these rankings? It was in Canada, but also remember, he was a Kentucky guard. True. Okay, okay. He was a Kentucky guard. Draymond was a two-sport athlete. Mm-hmm.

Ah. Is Ramon great higher than we would think? Listen, just for fun, just for fun, I'm going to go with Draymond. What do you think they saw on him in high school? He's probably dribble. He's probably shooting off the dribble. Yeah. Because if you go back and you watch the summer league game, he had a package.

He was moving. Yeah. No, he played like, oh, what was his name from the 2000s on the Celtics? Big Power Forward at score those points. Oh, fuck. Brandon best? No, before. Paul Pierce, he was like their all-star player.

Anton? Before Paul Pierce. What was his name? Antoine who? Walker? Yes, Anton Walker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was blinking.

Yeah. I feel like he probably played like Anthon Walker in high school. I bet he was his power forward that was dribbling jacket shots, taking hell of threes. I'm going with Draymond. We'll go, Draymond. Fuck it. All right. It is Shea actually just by one spot.

Dremmer was 36, though. He was no slouch. That makes total sense. Yeah. You don't go to Michigan if you're a slouch. So, Michigan State, if you're a slouch. Yeah. So, okay, listen, they slept on Shea a little bit.

That's probably a steal in the draft classes. That's probably Kentucky's, like, fifth highest rink player in that draft class. Yeah, she was like the craziest, the craziest. Did she come off the bench? No, I believe he was starting. I believe he was starting. Yeah. But he had like, he was, he looks like a completely different player.

He put some bigs in that team. I forget who. Yeah, he did. I see. I forget. There's a whole bunch of Kentucky guards that are just like infamous that you don't think of about anymore. Like, you know, what happened to Tyler Eulis?

Oh, yeah. Coach now is. Yeah, he is a coach from there in Kentucky. Salute. Yeah. Austin Rivers or Cade Cunningham? Austin Rivers was...

He was the guy. There's stories about him. But I think Kay was number one in his class, wasn't he? I think, I think so, but I think I'm gonna go Austin Rivers here. Oh, we just saw Jalen Green. Where was Jalen Green?

Where was Jalen Green? Jeline was two, right? He was one. He was one. Oh, the Kahn. Kidd has been one. Because we saw Jalen Green already. He was one.

So I'm guessing Austin Rivers was one and Kade was two. Yeah, I'll go to Austin Rivers. Okay, so Austin Rivers are actually three. Oh, but Kate was too. Okay, that makes sense. Who is above Austin Rivers in this class? Oh, let's go. I didn't see you.

Wait, he was Austin Rivers. I don't even remember. I think it was 2010. I guess he might have been 09 and then a 2010 draft. All I remember from Austin Rivers is him at Duke hitting the game winner over North Carolina. And like the most mythical high school mixtape of all time. Yeah. They tell stories.

Can't fire stories. You had to be there. I was like the fifth grade and everybody's freaking out about it. You hear about this guy? So naturally above Austin Rivers was Anthony Davis. They got him right 100% consistently throughout his like basketball career. Then MKG. No.

And then number two was Andre Drummond. Oh, okay. That's makes sense. That's fair. Yeah. And four was MKG. Okay, okay. Yeah, I realized in the Kyrie thing.

I wonder if Austin Rivers felt disrespected out. Andre, Andre, Drummer was above him. You shouldn't have been. We ended up being true. It worked out. Yeah. Under Drummond was probably gigantic in high school. This, this, this,

this draft class or at least how ESPN ranked these guys isn't like too wildly off and just go down the list you see Bradley Biel at 5 it's like okay I can see that happening and then you go ahead and see um guys like Dorian Phine Smith at 18 okay he's that old I didn't realize he's got old of the class wow he was to say like four years yeah KCP was in that same class he was at 24 I was like okay like this is yeah like there's actual NBA players on there damn Doran Finnsmith is old. Yeah. Uncle Brockins is there too.

I'm like, damn. How did you forget? During like 37? Nah, he's like 34 maybe. Let me see. He's like 33 if he's in that class. I don't know. 37 is crazy.

Yeah, 37 is he's 34. 37 is nuts. Way on. Three years off. It's a lot of years. That's a lot of years. 10 years off. That's substantive.

It's fine. He's 32. My bad. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Five years is a lot of my bad.

My bedroom. That's funny as hell. Who is higher? Lamello ball or Tyrese Maxie? Very, very interesting. I don't think Tyrese maxi was like a top five picking his class. Now, I think, I feel like Lamello had to be pretty high. His name rung so many bells.

His name, his name had power. He was playing absolutely everywhere in complete trash leagues. Like the league he played in Lithuania. That's, that's, but just up there. It's Lithuania. How would he thought Bryce was going to Lithuania? That's big. Is they digging for that in the rankings?

Possibly. Before Lithuania, though, he did go to a school called Spire Academy. Yeah. You know, I'm still going to go Lamella ball, though. I'm siding with the side of clout. Yeah. And I think Tyrese got out of the mud. It was probably 27.

Okay. You are incorrect. Fuck. Lamello was 21. Tyrese was. They did whole Lithuania against them. 13. 21?

The pathway for Lamello was insane. remember he like slapped a player back when um he slapped to pair back when his dad created his own league yeah i forgot how much bullshit they're on i completely forgot about the big ball of league yeah so his PR was this makes sense low keelamelo was too high that should have made him 50 they're on bullshit people are yeah he don't care super talented player but he don't necessarily care don't play no defense la bar said you would not go to kentucky yeah you are going to go to lithuania aspire in my own league The JBA or the...

Oh, my God. Yo, it's starting to ring bells. I remember, like, LeVar was coaching and the games would be like 160 to 157 because LeVar's only coaching stuff is like, yeah, just run. And give the ball to Lamello. Run, give the ball to Lamello and throw out of the passes, and that's it. Yep. His team was called the, his association was called the Junior Basketball.

Goddum. Criminal. Next thing we are going to do, I am going to name an NBA team, and we got to pick. the worst moment in their team's history. Okay. So, at least in modern history, at least, we'll see how far we can reach back to remember things, but whatever moments define this team in the worst way,

things that sting the fans to this day. Gotcha. Start off, Chicago Bulls. I mean, it's very easily. Damn. Derek Rose tearing his ACO. Has to be. There's really no close second.

The only other relevant piece of history you have is Michael Jordan, and everything that happened in that era was great. Just prosperity. Yeah, the only, it's like, I guess it's either, Derek Rose retiring or Derek Rose getting hurt or Michael Jordan retiring for the first time But then it's like we're coming off of a three-peat

Life is still okay We stabs Scotty Pippen We'll be out It was understandable Now I think a runner up Could be the day they signed Jim Boylan as their head coach I remember back in the day

Folks were over here making billboards Do you know how expensive a billboard is Saying fired boiling Fucking crazy, bro That was a funny time Trading Jimmy Butler also has to be up there That was a huge mistake you traded you sold low and he became one of the best players in the NBA that did not age well whatsoever

but yeah nothing compares to the derog's injury derrick goes injuries they asked them to this day they felt like they got robbed of what would have been a legend yeah one of the greatest players of all time we've never seen a single injury like single-handedly kill a franchise like this it really did murder the franchise like they have had nothing but failure since then I mean they were kind of already dead because like it had been 10 years since since the since the bulls had ended in anyway. Yeah, but they weren't able to recover from this at all, like

mentally. Like, they genuinely lost themselves. And if Derek Rose never tore his young stuff, he'd probably still be good to this day. Like, they'd still have, like, they would have the past 10 years of a superstar. Yeah. If he stays, but probably not, and if he stays, Jimmy Bullers are there too absolutely alongside, like, an aging luau day.

And I'm sure they would, like, find a ways to recoup as time goes on. We could have had Derek Rose and Patrick Williams together. All right, all, right. Next up, the Clippers. The day Pablo Tori was born. Yeah, apparently it's the day they signed Kauai Litter. That's going to be the downfall of the team at this rate.

Yeah. Yeah. The day they decided to pick up the phone and answer Sam Precii's call. All right. They probably called Sam Precii actually when they decided to go ahead and call San Precii. Yeah, because Kauai said, go get Paul George. He's like, fuck, to get Paul George. Shit, man.

When they answered Uncle Dennis's email, man. Yeah. Yeah, this is so hard because obviously, like, their entire French, and not even trying to be funny. their entire franchise is defined by like just bad moments yeah i remember the donald sterling scenario too yeah yeah honestly it's probably the day that donald sterling called his girlfriend about magic johnson that's probably the worst day no no no that's the best day their franchise because i got him out of there and he was a dog shit owner so they should be happy that he decided to talk about magic johnson that day fuck man him yapping about magic is the best thing never

happened to clippers single hand by far actually by far they are the first benefactors a billionaire racist And now here they are With another billionaire About to lose everything But not because he's racist That's true Because he really wanted

Quietly And what you say That's progress That is progress Their suffering It has a different shape A different shade to it And it's a better form of suffering

Okay You feel better about this one Yeah What else could it be What is the worst moments In their history They were pretty bad for a long time So I'm not gonna pull anything

From like a long time ago when they were worthless. I would say as a fan on the court basketball-wise, blowing a 3-1 leads it to the rockets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And specifically to Josh Smith. Yeah, when James Hardin was on the bench, like you gave that up to Josh Smith.

Like, that's tough. It's very tough. Yeah. There was one year, I think it may have been 2015 or 2014, where they upset the spurs. And I remember this, like, key moment where, like, Tim Duncan is like, go ahead, adapt to Chris Ball, go ahead, do your big one, win it all, bro. And I think the very next series, like, Chris Ball, like, hurt his hamstring.

Surprise. That might have, they might have played the, the thunder that year. Low key, no, no, honestly, the worst scenario they ever happened to them is the COVID-19 epidemic because they might have won the finals in 2020 if they didn't have to go where all these guys proved to be mentally charming and couldn't deal with the pressure of the bubble. I mean, they still had to go and play the Lakers who were, you know, top at the top of the game. better chance though they might they might they were the favorites to people and they were a substantially different team because they could not deal with the pressure in the bubble oh boohoo yeah it's all man i'm not saying you know yeah you deserve it but maybe they maybe they'd have a championship right now

in the first year with kawai if it wasn't for covid yeah sucks to suck stupids yeah next up the portland trailblazers oh when they decided to go ahead and um actually see we could go their first MVP player losing his prime to injury their second all start their second super player in Brandon Roy losing his prime to injury. Their third player in Greg Oden losing their prime to injury. Honestly. That's what I was going to go. It's really the last 15 years of like taking

Greg Oden and then watching Kevin Redd be one of the greatest players of all times. It dates back to further than that. It's taken Sam Bowie, I believe. Or Jordan back in like 84. That's easily the worst mistake. Anybody's made in NBA history. Yo, they have a lot of misery. Three

superstars robbed because they're injuries. Your other superstars, in dame had no help you took two players over two of the goats they're just mired in depression yeah wow damn this team has nothing to point to they got the jailblazers they have cool jerseys kind of oh this jersey cool i like sure we can give it the cool title that's fair yeah yeah pick which one you want pick which injury or which terrible draft decision you want and that's the worst of the showblazers yeah dealer's choice next up calves just when lebron left and decided to put the decision, man.

I don't think it is, though, because they were able to get all these great players afterwards and he came back. So it was really not even that bad. They got one great player afterwards. Skyrie, that's it. And then Kevin loved because of the picks. But if you get, like, the specific, like, in that moment, what felt the worst, that easily has to be.

But Tommy Hill was all, though. He came back and they became better for it. It was a strategic decision. But we've also never seen no one leave on national TV. He said sorry after. It doesn't mean. Nothing. Like, what happens still happened.

And no other player in NBA history and Barry Hensry. their team to that, well, to that agree and fell through with it. The owner of the Cavs stood to this day is like one of the more embarrassing things for you to write this letter of saying, yeah, LeBron quit on us and we're going to win it. He said we're going to win a championship before

LeBron does. I think time does all with that. And then you went and like had one of the worst seasons in NBA history. You got multiple first round, fourth overall picks. Yeah. The real worst thing to me is Carrey Irving decided because he was tired of being a little bro. Because if that never happened, they would start together. LeBron might still be there. LeBron might have never had to leave. They kept

I mean, maybe we're like, they also, something was, something was going to change because they just got beat 4-1 in the finals with Katie. Like, nobody was going to beat them. Yeah, but the Katie thing only lasted two more years. That could have weathered the storm. Kevin Love would definitely, like, been out on the way out. And we would have seen some type of, like, revamp. But I definitely think it is the decision for sure. I'm going to decision.

Okay. Yeah. The Celtics. This one's pretty easy when you draft what should be your generations fucking Anthony Davis. And he doesn't play a single game. for you. Pretty tough. I'm on Lynn Bias. I am. That's got to be number one. I don't even know there's a close second for the Celtics.

No, truly not. There might not be any team that has a single moment more painful in history than that. The fact they had the best team in the NBA and they're going to add the next superstar that everyone thinks is going to be one of the best players in the world. Imagine that like if the Warriors actually, if the Warriors had a chance to draft Anthony Edwards and then it just doesn't happen. And he just dies. Like the whiplash is insane. Like that's crazy whiplash to go from worth thinking we're on top. Dude, this guy doesn't exist.

Like, that's horrible. That's like crazy to imagine in modern day. That's easily the worst thing. Horrendous luck. Like, I can't even really fathom it.

Yeah, like dead? Yeah, I can't even like fathom him. A car crash and break his legs and be back in a year. Like, yeah,

it's not like an injury or like somebody else got the pick or like the pick was taken. Like, the fact that guy's not alive. I can't even fathom that in modern fandom. Yeah.

Wow. That's the biggest tragedy. It's hard. The Sacramento Kings was their worst a moment. okay so i mean they had a moment where like in the in the early 2000s where they like could have made a run it got cheated yeah the 2000s finals you could say like got cheated chris weber got hurt and and kind of derrida a playoff run USM shit was rigged against them and they'll never

recover from it that's pretty bad well it sucks to suck you did that and then secondly you pick Marvin bagley over luca dants when your team employed luca duch's coach yeah yeah yeah Yeah, yeah, that's a tear. I was that the Suns? Honestly, I feel like... It might have been the Suns. Oh, no matter of mine. Yeah, it is the...

You pick Marvin Bagley over Luca Donchich when he's there and available? I still honestly do think it's probably not that because they would have found a way to trade the way. Lucas, just like how they did with De Naira Fox, Tyrant O'Aliburton. Yeah. Yeah, so I think for them, it's probably like the moment that everyone's like, we could have taken, we could have interrupted the three Pete, the last three Pete in NBA history. And we got ripped. Like, we got, we got rocked. It's probably, it's probably that.

It has to be that. Like, they feel like they're at the back end of literal corruption. It doesn't get much worse than that. Yeah. The New York Knicks. Worst moment in this franchise's history. The worst single, the single number one, worst moment. It has to be the, the Charles Smith layups in 93.

That's the, that's the one. Anytime that, like, that we're in. in New York and like conversations about the Knicks happen, it always ends up going back to that and people are still scarred by it where he's going up for layups and just gets blocked and blocked and blocked. Because those like midnight teams,

everybody obviously is square is like, they were there. They were to beat MJ. Yeah, they were going to beat Jordan. And this dude just was missing layups. People still can't fathom it. And is that considered their best year, their best chance of one in the finals?

Yeah. It's either, like people hate that more than Patrick Ewan missing a layup in game. Okay, yeah, I'm not sure which one of those years is, like, thought of as the year they could have won. Like, what's their version of 2018 Rockets? If it's 93th, then, yeah, that's the one. So heartbreaking.

Tell me, other than that, I mean, listen, is the Pacers being them going to be up there? What's the most, like, dog walk they got on their own? Maybe, remember that one year? I think it was, was it 2018 when LeBron called him, like, he called himself like the King of New York or something like that. Everybody calls himself to King of New York all the time. And what? And got blocked by Mara Azonia? He did get blocked by Aaron Zonia.

Guess what? He was on the way. That was the first shoot, the Lakers. Yeah, the Lakers. 18 was the one where he was beefing with Mr. Freedom. And his freedom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, what the fuck?

It's freedom, yeah, yeah. The Los Angeles Lakers, what is the lowest point for such a high point-ass franchise? I mean, so I think, I feel like losing, any one of their losses to the Celtics, of just losing to the Celtics over and over and over again. Yeah, there has to be a point where you're like, damn, man, like, what are we doing here? I think, hmm, I wonder, is it losing Shaq? Kobe and Shaq tearing apart. Yeah, maybe it's not figuring out.

Super heartbreaking. I think it's just like short-lived ten years for sure. Yeah, maybe it's the fact that those two couldn't see eye to eye and get another championship. Like that era could have been extended even longer. That, unfortunately, we're trading for Russell Westbrook. Oh, yeah, duh, duh, ending LeBron James championship window. It's definitely true. That shouldn't have never happened.

I will say also, like. having Kobe do egregious heavy lifting that year when they went ahead and signed Steve Nash got Dwight Howard and they were barely 500 like eking into the playoffs and for one of the last few games Kobe tearing his ACO so heartbreaking yeah that was disappointing but that's not like injuries happen so that's definitely a shitty-ass moment but I wouldn't consider it the lowest moment since it's unlucky I guess the Magic Johnson's career being shortened oh yeah duh yeah it's the biggest one never mind yeah because it's like he's an Russell, Westbrook, you're not that bad.

Yeah. Never mind. Disease is worse. My bad. Could you imagine like 17 years of Magic Johnson? Yeah, Rush, you're not worse at HIV. I'm sorry. It's not true.

It's not true. My bad. We did forget about the HIV of it all. It's not Russ. It's not Russ at all. You win this time, Mr. Westbrook. You get away this time, Westbrook.

Next up, the Brooklyn Nets. Ooh, this pays me to even think about right now. Lowest, it's either trading for like the Wasb Big Three or just seeing the whole team implode. Off of what could have been the best team that we've seen in modern NBA. You see a super team implode because of a vaccine or you make the worst trade in NBA history to get Carl Piers and Goanette. And then on top of that, the worst trade in NBA history, you see the guys who were taken with your very own picks become absolute studs. And what a championship? And what a chip too?

I don't know what is that one I mean listen Listen the COVID pandemic Fucked them over And a once in a lifetime top Away from when it gets championship In 2021 That's unfortunate

The trade in 2013 That's your own volition You decided to be stupid You didn't get unlucky But even then that I feel like I can live With my own decision Exactly

More than like Oh Kevin Durant's toe was on the line Yeah And Kyrie doesn't like medicine And James Hardin's hamstring Falls off the bone Like everything just one after another falls into place

That you don't really have control over Yeah. And so, like, I would, if I was a fan, I would hate that much more because you clearly saw in the, in the 52 minutes that they play basketball together, you saw like, oh, this is one of the best things I've ever seen on the court. If the injuries were turned off, they might have three-feited. That scene would have been unstoppable. Yeah. I think what happened in 2021 is more, would be more damning to me if I was a fan because you're telling me something that's never happened before or if it's happened not to this fucking scale. Last one where you seen it happens like 150 years ago.

what the fuck oh and you know what too they never thought the thing with kg was going to work that was stupid everybody kind of knew it they thought they were going to win a chip when they got james hardin and that was snatched away from him yeah tough next up the indiana pacer's oh man it's right here on the screen it's either

the most recent thing of tyrie taliborne blowing out his achilles and game seven when you have an opportunity to have one of the biggest upsets in NBA history or or the right answer or putting a stain on not only yourself but the entire league by fighting the fans in the malice in the college. That's just in the league. A state on sports history.

This is one of the biggest embarrassments to any league. I don't know. If you ask me, that's one of the like proudest moments that you could have for your team because you're standing on respect. You're putting fans in their fucking place. Because they like to talk crazy then and now. That actually, listen, that's the one thing was like, they threw a beer on, on our test. And he really was trying to chill. He was trying to lay down and not be a part of anything.

and people start throwing stuff. I got to remember. But then a fan gets on the court and then he squares up and you're like, yo, what's happening right now? I wonder how harsh the suspenses were after this. It was the whole year. It was extremely harsh. Yeah.

You had spent it for the entire season. Oh, that fucking nuked them. And it's not like you were just a mid-team and you had this crazy fight. If the Pacers didn't have that fight, they could have won a championship that year. Like Reggie Miller could have had his ring chasing, whatever. But he could have had his end of the road ring. To go out on top, the Pacers could have had their title.

It ruined so many things for so many people. Dude, Ronor, Test was suspended for 86 games. Yeah. That's hilarious. This is at the start of the year. It was in like November. Yeah, I knew it was the whole year. So why are you so mad?

86 is hilarious. So it was a whole year in like 10 games the following season? Yeah. It's hilarious. It's easily the malice in the palace. Tyrese is that were recovered. That might still end up being fine long term. Maybe they can overcome that.

The malice in the palace is just what it is. The Pelicans. Moving to New Orleans in the first place. Yeah, you were doomed from the jump. This team sucks. And, like, the franchise is awful. Low key. It's probably losing Anthony Davis.

They haven't really recovered at all. They've been dog shit since they lost AD. And not to say they were the shiniest toy with AD. They weren't great either way. But they have been an embarrassment. I think specifically how AD left, too. Like, there was a super viral moment where it was one of his last time walking through that tunnel or out of that tunnel. And he was wearing a, that's all folks shirt.

Yeah. Like signifying. I'm so fucking happy to be out of this bitch Left with bad blood And they have not been relevant since They were given a lifeline Number one of all pick It didn't matter

This team should not exist And like You should be here It's not your fault No I'm so serious We didn't want you here The Pelicans They need to move

They've They've never been to To the conference finals They have one season In their entire history Where they have like won their their division.

Damn, what was that? 2018? Or 2019? 2007, when Chris Paul had like his MVP year and they were Oh,

oh, oh, okay. I thought it was that one good Pelicans year with AD and Boogie. No, they, that's, that's the only one.

They have not been able to accomplish really anything. This franchise is cursed. Damn. It sucks to suck. Yeah,

you're right, they shouldn't exist. The Oklahoma City Thunder. Another young franchise. What's the worst to happen in their short time? Blowing a 3-1 lead and then watching

your star go to the team that beat you. Yeah, it's easily that. A month prior. Like, if the Warriors didn't win and, like, some catastrophe happened, it wouldn't feel an assback. It was like, ha, dummy.

Like, you thought you were going to do something. It would be hilarious. It would be glee. It would be the best moment in Thunder history to Washington Bell. Exactly, exactly. But sadly, they were the goats. And they won multiple championships

in the most dominated fashion that we've ever seen. Yeah, they kind of just weren't fuck with the bull. Super sting. Is trading James Hardin up there? Like, is that that, that again, your own volition. It's up there.

It's up there. But, like, in the, the worst, the product afterwards was still so good that you can't say that it was the like wrong because you were still so successful. Yeah. But

I mean at the end of day, like, no, 3 MVP is thinking about Russ and how he's ascending naturally like they probably would have demoted Westbrook maybe. Don't know. Still, still. Still. But doesn't touch in 2016. Nothing touches losing Kevin Durant in that type of way

to that type of team. Don't want to blowing a 3-1 lead too in that fashion nothing's more demoralizing than that tough the timber wolves hmm I mean they did get caught in like in a scandal they're their original like yeah the original scandal team yeah they're back in like 2000

for cap circumvention yeah they're the original clippers in terms of cap circumvention and so like that is absolutely embarrassing if you want to go a little bit more modern you pick Johnny Flynn and Ricky Rubio right before St. Curry. That's the worst. You said we need a point guard

and pick the two, pick two point guards back to back. You lost five first round picks for cap circumvention. You finally get through that area and you get your first round picks back and then you don't pick Steph Curry. You have two bites of the apple and you pick two shady point guards.

Yeah. Like simply selecting Steph Curry changed the entire trajectory. What was done for those careers? And that's after you lose Kevin Barnett because you couldn't do shit with him. The 2000 is just the worst moment of Timberwell's history.

It's all bad. Yeah. Nothing good happened. everything bad happened. They had so many opportunities, too. You're right. Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. Johnny Flynn played two and a half years with the Timberwolves.

Tough. Sick business, man. That's sick business. And that's the last one. Man, being a Timberwolves fan was. Suck. I mean, you're kind of up right now, though. For now.

For now. You just changed ownership. Yeah. KG's about to get back involved with the franchise. That is very true. You're bringing the black throwbacks. back this year? Yeah.

Next thing we're going to do. We're going to talk about some NBA ejections. Specifically, we are going to watch the funniest NBA ejections that we can find on the internet. Yes, exactly. We're going to react to these.

I want you guys to react to these hilarious NBA ejections. Well, what did you put together for us? First up, we got the classic, the theatrical, Dennis Rodman. Okay, we got to start with Robin on a list about funny behavior. So, Robin is at the top right of the screen

and he looks very pissed off about this play right here. Why? Is his teammate threw it out of bounds? Teamed out of bounds, but no, not really. It's because this was illegal defense. Oh, okay. Yes, correct. Oh, they didn't call it.

They didn't call illegal defense at all. Oh, so he's pissed about it, freaking out, and he's pouting. He's like, you know what I call it? I'm right here. I'll sit my ass on the paint, too. And immediately, that's when he got a tech. And he gets kicked out. And he gets thrown out.

That's pretty funny. Yep. That's pretty good. You can't, listen. This is the precursor to Pat Bev showing the foul on the camera. Oh, yeah. This is the OG. Yeah.

He sat right here and he stood there. You didn't call it. And you know what? I like the fact that he got ejected and then went, he still went into the ref's face. It's very baseball of him. Because like the baseball, the baseball managers, they get ejected and they're like, well, I'm going to make this worse something. And they just go up and just start yelling and yelling and yell. Yeah.

Yeah. Get ejected for something that like means something. Yeah. He's still out of here. It's like kicking the dirt all over his feet. Yeah. Okay. That's a solid.

This is a four-minute clip. He gets ejected 30 seconds in. Yeah, exactly. I just argues forever. Pima out with a bag. He gave a kid his jersey and all that, bro. Stand-up guy. This is a cool jersey, too.

If a rating how funny these are, solid 8 out of 10. Don't attend. He literally threw a temper change. 70s is a nasty number, too, by the way. Discussing number. Actually, he rocked it. If anybody could, it's him.

I don't think you rocked it too well. I think it's pretty whack. That's glazed, man. That's glaze, man. Calm down. I'll give that one a solid eight out of 10. Stand-up. All right.

next up we got rashid wallace staring at this referee nothing but staring no words no nothing he got ejected him up you got ejected him for looking yes so the story behind this i'm not gonna lie as a racist no it's not he's just being black he scared him it's all he's like you're staring him down you clearly know what you do it like i actually do understand the ref a little bit just looking at him in this moment the referee did say like stop staring at me stop staring at me and then he teed him up Grant or Steve Smith was like What's, what, ref was going? What's going on?

He's like, I told him, stop intimidating me. I told him, intimidating at me. Intimidating him. You see what I mean? That's what he said. He said, he's intimidating me. So, hey, you might be cooking. Do you think of Yokish stared at him?

He'd be ejected? Fuck no. If he told him to stop staring, he never would have told him to stop staring. He's intimidating me. He was like, ah, Nicola, that's Nikola being Nicola. Yokinich is also not.

Rashid Wallace, who has the most technical files in NBA history. like like listen you get rough differently i'm sorry and why is that he's just looking at him he didn't do a thing that's funny i'm not gonna pretend he's breaking a rule for looking at him that's crazy he did say you know me like that come on you know you know we love oh because he said don't resist it's okay stop looking at me okay fuck you i'm just looking all he's doing is using his eyes oh man yeah

this is ridiculous this is easily like one of the no like if I tell if I clearly I'm the right if I tell you to stop looking and you continue to look but that's a human right what do you mean

don't look clearly on the ref like it's his dad like he's the rap doesn't have free reign to just decide the rules on the fly there's no rule against looking don't look at me man

don't look at me man it's like bro relax and he's just standing him out I understand it Yeah, I understand that I don't condone it, but I understand. I know, I understand cowardice. It makes sense to me logically. I understand being a baby.

It makes total sense. Speaking of that. How do he's supposed to feel with the 16th black man staring at him? What do you want to do? Speaking of that, we got Tim Duncan being ejected, teed up for being on that bench and just simply laughing. You think that you think Yon could just let the laugh? I bet he is. Did he tell him to stop laughing?

But he didn't get ejected for the city? Yeah. You got ejected. You got thrown out for this. Oh, so it was like a double tech for laughing? Yep. What is he laughing at? The context is important here.

Okay, they call him a bad foul. They called a shooting foul on his teammate and he thinks it's a bad foul. So he's laughing at the ref for calling that. He's cracking up. He is like throwing his head back. But I don't know. I don't think the ref can just be like, you're making fun of me and reacting that you can get ejected. That's a pretty whack fall.

It is very. It was so whack to the point to where David Stern. told Joey Crawford that's rough right there to go ahead and seek therapy for that car. But he demanded to go, demanded him to go to therapy because that was so agrees. Yeah, this is a greed. Especially when the player is not

on the floor. Yeah, he's just sitting down laughing. He didn't say a word. And then he did go ahead, go and he did go ahead and D go to therapy and he had to have a one on one on one with Davis Stern and tell him what he learned. How much. James Stone was hilarious. Darius was hilarious.

This is 10 at him funny. This is ridiculous to just be laughing and getting trouble. I feel like a kid in school. You're just talking too much. You're getting trouble. Next up, we got Grant Hill and Reggie Evans just showing some good competitiveness.

There we go. Good play. Oh, taking turn, don't spanks around. On some slap ass live? Okay. Good play, bro. Now, mind you, that last slap was kind of hard. Like, it was,

you didn't take too kindly for that. Stung a little bit. Yeah. He said, both of y'all, that's not happening my house. We're out of here. Not in this house. He had enough. All they did was show good sportsmanship.

This happened 20 times a game in the NFL. Yeah, he just seen it. Once he was like, no, I ain't happened. I ain't seen that. Do you think this would have happened in 2025? You think this would have been ejection today? No. No, not a chance.

Not at all. That ref has some questions to answer. Yeah. That ref. Yeah. We know. Hell not. exactly not here

fuck no get out of here yeah that's got he said after the second one he was like oh you're in line right there he said what is happening here man

this is a 2,000 moments the way he did he said get out he was so it was so emphatic is a perfect word

he threw his arms in the air so quickly to the sky Oh, bro, that's hilarious. That's a 10-9-10 humor. I love that. Next up, we got Dremont Green getting ejected. I'm on the rep side.

I'm on the rep side. Of course you are. Whatever Dremont did. He was yelling at his own teammate. Whatever, whatever Dremont did, I believe the ref told him. Oh, so he yelled at his teammate. No, this is actually bullshit because the call was made at the under, at the offensive end.

James We're not going to get, he didn't get a good enough of a seal. And he just let Neurals O'L go in and swipe him for that pass. Yeah. So Dremont yelled at James Wiseman and the ref thought he was yelling at the other team? Yes, exactly. Okay. And he's like, what? I can't yell at my rook.

My rook's an idiot. I can't, I can't tell him. He's 18. He's stupid. What do you want? Exactly. And everyone was just blowing. I was like, how?

Now, this is one of the instances where it's like, your reputation is dog shit. And it's just like, it's like. He sees him screaming. He can only assume that he's being violent. Wait, can you not, can you not rescind? We have to. We have to change it. Like, I know you can rescind text after the fact, but, like, you should be able to rescind a tech within, like, a minute or so.

You can't pick up your flag. Because this, because this is crazy. It is definitely BS. Top 2 BS. We're yelling at James Wiseman. Every player on the court probably wanted to yell at James Wiseman. And only he got got for it. Everybody, you see the visual fans in the back tooth or the virtual fans, they're shocked.

Yeah. This is genuinely the most. and Dremont has ever been. Hey, free Dremont. Dremont. Dremont's never been anything wrong. Exactly. I'm on his side. I'm sure Donvin's size of authority like always.

But we're on Dremont's side. Next, we got Cade Cunningham being ejected for a fantastic dunk, but pointing at his opponent, taunting. Ah, you pointed straight at him like an inch away from his face? Yeah. That's pretty funny. He's like, got him. Sticks. You're a loser.

Stupid. Get up iron. Joe, it's great. He looks so skinny here, by the way. Cade? Yeah. Yeah. He did put on

First second year? Yeah. Rookie year. Damn. Dumped on. Pointed at his Damn near touched him. Yeah.

Now period. To his defense, he was like, no, man, I was a point of him. I was pointing at my bench. Cap. You touched his temple.

You touched his temple. You damn, you put your finger in his ear. You damn near entered him. This is not, no pointing at a bench. Go! That is direct contact.

Honestly, I understand this one. this is what I at least understand your finger's pretty close to him nah but I don't get dumped on simple as that if you don't want your finger it was very close to like wet willy territory

yeah yeah you can't get terribly close to what movie the last time I got wet willing fucking fourth grade for two weeks I'm scared oh y'all stopking wet will be wet will you're yeah be wet will you're strangers all the time

next up I'll be at the gym next up we got cp3 with this classic ejection by none other than who scott fisher foster foster what the fuck i always fish on my notes whoops why is that so funny he's a laughing box today i said fisher okay so why do you get ejected for this one every week he will mess up somebody's name guaranteed he put together this list also he said Scott Foster a thousand times in his life

is that a new name yeah I typed in Fisher oh you're exactly yeah I literally typed in Fisher I was like oh shit I don't know I slept up yeah so he's arguing with Scar Foster they're going at it

they're going at it and they're arguing about a bad call they're discussing the call and the rules and technicalities of the game you know how CP3 is and he's extended combo extended call on he was like you know what I don't like I don't like how that ended

go ahead and get out of here yeah I really do feel like Chris Paul should be able to put his hands on Scott because at this point and he said it too it's personal at this point. At this time around I think he called him a bitch. You think he did? Yeah. Scott Foster called him? Scuff. No, Chris Paul called him a bitch.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, you're gone, buddy. So there's a bad call. No, it's a good call. No, I understand it. No, you shouldn't. Yeah, well, you're a bitch. Okay. That's quite the escalation. Like, where are we going? Where are we going right now, man? Say, can we just be civilized? And you know, Scott Foster gave him a lot of wiggle room. They argued for a good long bit.

That was like two minutes of yapping. Chris Paul is down for it. It was a normal conversation. He does that usually, though. Oh, he called the bitch after he got ejected. Okay. So he walks up after the ejection and says, you're a bitch and points out of his face.

Never mind. I'm on CP3 side now. That's pretty funny. I kind of like it. Again, he should be able to put hands on him. He should at the minimum be able to call him bitch. If Chris Paul, before he retires, honestly, in his last year, he should fight Scott Foster.

Pay-per-view. How much would you pay for that? No, not even paper on the floor. Oh, okay. Yeah, just be watching the sidelines, just getting on the court. Okay. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, it's worth it.

Slap them. That's funny. Open hand. I'd support you. Next up, we got I'm a Yudoka calling LeBron James a bitch on the sideline. Once again, put your hands on him. Let's do it. And I may get ejected for this?

I may got ejected for this. And the referee came in and was like, hey, none of that here. What are you in the context was saying you're a bitch? How do you think you said it? Do you say you're a bitch? Or he said like stop being a bitch Stop being a bitch

Stop being a bitch Yeah He did a like a I'm sure I don't think he called LeBron You're a bitch You're acting like a bitch And there's a difference Either way

What's the word Once you say the word I see red You know Like that's probably just How it's gonna go Yeah I mean someone says You're a bitch

I'd be like I understand it If you say you're acting like a bitch I mean I can live with it You know That's like People in competition I can live with that point

Not to LeBron. Hell no. I'm on that Ruff side. He did the right thing. Ejected me immediately. He just yelled so loud. Scared the fuck out of me. Scared to you off my ear?

I was looking at his way in here. I was looking at his way in here. Okay. I'm just not necessarily funny. It's serious. It is surprising that email would say that. Either way, even if it was softened with a like,

still kind of surprising. Wasn't it? Yeah. That's how you feel. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

Yeah, I'm, I'm shot. Why do you feel about the response to LeBron? Don't use that word so loosely. He shows some decorum. He's kind of laying law. Honestly. He makes it feel like, oh, something's going to happen to you,

but I got shit. Say it again, I dare you. He's laying law. Yeah. I shouldn't start right there again. Putting his foot down. What's saying, man. I'm the same.

I'm the same. People are in the building. LeBron handled it with care. He understood. That's that I'll react. See, I like when you take charge. Next up, we got

LeBron James kicking out by himself single-handling this fan right here Yeah, this is great Mr. referee, sir him right there

him right there yes him and then the girl shakes her head yeah not me I'm doing anything

I'm saying anything I'm gonna get an ass out of here he don't even know what's going on he was not

he was on the court he used to shit he's got a ride for Lebron if he was up to Westbrook Westbrook would eject

like 10% of fans every year no he'd love to play an empty arena. Every game. But the only babies to go yell at. But no, this is great.

The way LeBron leads him, grabs him by the arm, you know, this specific man. Yeah. It was, you could tell. Right there.

Right there. He didn't want to get, he didn't want no mistakes happening right at all. You see him? He put his hands up. Yeah. He has his hands up.

He's like, I didn't do anything. So it wasn't the first comment made this day. Clearly LeBron was pushing him his limits. Yeah. Yeah. We're in,

also, you're kicking him out in overtime. Yeah. There's two and a half minutes left and over time you're up by three LeBron's like

I can't handle any more and his fit is whack look at this guy who's talking to me he's his leather jacket on over the jersey little crap bro

bad haircut I'd be mad too with this guy called me a bitch man watching this who's dressed like that right now you're just

shit on her swag and the girlfriend's crying yeah yeah they can get out of here yeah the messenger matters just as much as a message

and this messenger would piss me off too I get it you think so definitely good job Lebron

look at this guy you're right he did lay down the law exactly and sometimes that's what the king has to do. I like that. Lay and la.

Next up, we got, this is unprecedented territory. Andre Drummond getting ejected for pushing Victor and Benyama. Now, this is going to develop as time goes on because... That was pretty weak ejection. He didn't do much. Yeah, really weak. You could say, like, when we flopped and guess who's on that team that?

He doesn't do any of that. He played the game. No, no, no, no, he was definitely doing that because Chris Paul was there by his side teaching them how to flop indeed oh yeah that's a flop no he didn't he didn't flop at all that's that's a hundred percent that's a hundred percent flop he did not he did not he did not flop he didn't he intentionally didn't save himself from fall but that's that's not a flop because if you see now switch the weight to his to his uh to his heels sometimes you got to fall down not catch yourself because you can break your elbow so he was smart about falling he fell safely yeah i mean oh god whatever to whatever hell bro you guys are always doing yeah now again for the rest of the year

Don't you say anything bad about Wimpy? Now look. Or try to, you know. This player right here. Next play. He falls right again. And this time, Andre Drummond is thrown out.

The lady ref has had enough. She had enough. The lady ref? Yeah, she's the one who threw him out. Like, it wasn't any way else. There's multiple people talking. So it was her who threw him out. Yeah.

You look at the Wembe definitely flop the second time. Yeah. All the Arjard Jerman did is extend his arm. She had enough. She was like, yeah. Get out of here, buddy. My job is on the line to take care of this prince. You can't have none of that

She's said standard again She's might I say setting the law It was dumb too though Because yeah When we definitely did fly It wasn't German And B was the one Who was the one who was yelling at the

At the ref right Oh yeah At the female rep Yeah At the lady rep Yeah Yeah he was in her face Going crazy

Yeah he was a little much Yeah Now Weird territory Eventually Andre Drummond Got his text Resented He said that's crazy

I got him Yeah that's a matter your plan. I'm glad you mentioned Chris Paul's influence. This was Chris Paul's influence on Victor Women Yama. Exactly. Chris Paul's on the sidelines or at least in his mind saying Yeah, look at your gentleman walking out. He said, just like I raised

him. Exactly. And then what happens later on? To go ahead and talk about it and then the lady ref says, I fucked up. I got it. I own it. Bring him back. I ain't mean it. And yo, like, courage to her because we don't see refs actually doing that at all. And we've never seen a rep do this actually ever in history.

And she did. Look at him. Come on. I tell him. He said, oh, my God. That's Andre Drummond's music. Everybody clapping it up for him. And you go, oh, look, I'm coming back into the tunnel. It's so dramatic. Yeah, for no reason, bro. I remember this one.

This one was funny. It's on a random Wednesday night. I was watching this game. Like, I happened on one of the games I'd happened to decide to watch that day. They reviewed that play for so long. For no reason. This was a long moment. Yeah.

hilarious. And he came back in the game. And he puts his face into Wembe's chest. He's like, I'm here. I'm still here. This was great. He said, and we still good. deep cut

a dog reference oh man shout out a referee don't you wish refs would do this more often yes like just come together and be like all right

like was it really worthy especially the ones that are scared of the big black guys and call foul because of it especially those ones all of them next thing we're going to do the final thing we're going to do today

we're going to do the NBA four head guessing game I'm going to grab the headbands you can put a player in and we can guess their player first. NBA forehead guests. Sounds good to me.

The last time we did this was on house call podcast. Also, tap in. Tap in the house call. Tap the fuck in, man. We're a week three of the NFL season. Ooh, yeah, you're all right.

And I will say, the last time we did play this game, it was a house call, and I won for the first time. Let's see if I can redo that same exact thing and win. That was so rude. There you go. I thought you had hands. My bad.

Like, don't snack to a dog. what a crazy way to take that what an unnecessary escalation dude he totally called you an animal fucking mutt he totally said you beneath humanity he's a fighter man me personally he didn't think that

dude he basically called you a bitch shit man okay you guys know this works we got a bucket full of like 75 players in here and we're gonna put one on our head and see who can guess each other's name first we gotta get this camera off so

the camera oh yeah you're on there's nothing for me to do with that okay don't look at it that's so weird but okay what do you just look at each other yeah look at us what he means it's just right there but okay well for you look at us okay okay so join the player am i facing the right way no uh yeah okay putting it in my head oh oh oh oh oh oh no where is oh i feel it okay there you go nope nope nope this is difficult oh oh hold Got it. There we go. Okay, here you go.

Nice. Okay. I can. Mix it up. Mix it up. Okay. Is it facing me? Are you guys?

It's facing me. It's facing me. The right way. Okay. Facing the right way. Okay. Face this on there. Boom.

Okay. You're good. We're both good. We're still good. That guy's a degenerate. I love him. All right. This is the right way?

Nope. You're facing yourself? There. There we go. Is it, it's upright? Yep. Okay, here we go. So, you guys see our players on our heads.

Ew. Looky. Got a wet, we'll be waiting for you, buddy. Okay. Donovan, you go first. So funny. Is my player a,

is my player a guard? Your player is a guard. Correct. Is my player playing today? He is not playing today. Retired guy. Is my player above 6'5? Yes.

Yes. Is my player playing today? Yes. Current guard. Okay. Is my player a Hall of Famer? Yeah. I guess you can say that.

Yeah. I suppose. Cool. Technically, he's a Hall of Famer. Cool. Oh, okay. Cool. Is my player a good defender?

No. Okay. So 12-6-05 bad defender. That's a pretty interesting combination. You're big and you can't play defense. So I have a current guard. Let's see. Is my player in the East.

Conference currently? Why am I blanking? Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. No, he's not. Okay. He's not. Yeah, he's not.

Western Conference Guard. You guys didn't know, so it's probably like a bench guy, getting you moved around. Yeah, what team is, y'all? I'm at blinking. You're good. You'll come to you. Yeah. Is my player a top 15 player of all time?

Yeah. I guess you can say that. Cool. Yeah. So I know my player is tall can't play defense Is my player an all-star? Yes Okay, so he's nasty out offense, okay

Okay Okay, let's see So Western Conference Guard Kind of switching teams We don't really know Is Is my player My player a good defender?

No No Okay Yeah, no I mean I don't think anybody right now would say that No. Okay. Is my player a guard?

Yes. Cool. So a player's an All-Star. He's good at offense. Is my player seven-foot-t taller or taller? No. Seven-foot? Six-six to seven-foot tall.

Okay. Or six-foot, six-six to six-11. Bad defender, All-Star. All-Star. All right. So I got to figure something out. Is my player, my player starter? I don't think he's a start this year No, he's not

Don't think he's going to start So he really is like on that line Yeah, I don't know I don't know what their team is going to choose Yeah, he's not a starter Okay Is my player Shit

Okay, is my player Did he play majority Of his career At his conference Yes Yes Cool Okay

So between six 6-6 and 6-11, bad at defense, All-Star. I'm not player currently playing. No. Fuck. Damn it's.

All right. So what I have, I have this Western Conference guard, but you got to kind of shake you on the Western Conference. Don't know if he's going to start either. Dang. Was he an All-Star last year? No.

This is Michael Jordan. That's Michael Jordan. Damn it. Boom. What do I have? Charles Barkley? Magic. Yeah.

Oh, man. Back-to-back weeks of success. I love being greedy. You got Chris Ball? Yeah. Is he still on the Spurs? He's on the Clippers now. Oh, yeah, the Clippers sign was a backup.

I was blanking on who signed Chris Ball. Dude, I don't believe me. We're still in NFL mine right now. I know. Dead of the off season. Yeah. I completely forgot where he went. Okay, another round.

Back to back. Dubs. Okay. Can the street continue? Man, to forever, gentlemen. It's facing you? Turn it around. There you go. damn you want two times in a row yeah that's never happened for you i know shout out you mo madness is in this bitch mo madness mo magic mo money okay i got mine it's facing me there you

it's facing it's facing you yeah yeah we're good now okay right way okay am i good yeah you are good i'm gonna get it right this time up got it first try look at me nice okay uh you want what you go first okay is my player playing today no is my player playing today no damn it is my player playing today yes yes okay is my player 50 cut it down is my player light skin no no okay that eliminates like 40% of the league is my player light skin yes yes okay light skin not playing today okay you know what it's interesting is most of light skins in history played really recently yeah so All right. Yeah.

See, I have a current player. Did this player make the All-Star team last year? Yes. Yes. Fuck. We got to go fast. Hold on. Okay.

Shit. Okay. I got a historic light skin. He's a current All-Star. Very different here. My player don't play today. And he is not light-skinned. So that means he is.

Is he a Hall of Famer? Yes. Okay. Is my player a Hall of Fame? No. Non-Hall-of-Fame light-skinned player. Did my player last year play in the Eastern Conference? He did.

He's like 12 players. We've got to go. Okay. Okay. I got one. Is my player top five all time at his position? Yes. Yes.

Fuck. Okay. But I already this 25 players. That's pretty helpful. It's good. Come on. My players, I just asked him, he's a Hall of Famer. He's not.

He's light skin, not playing today. Did he play post-2010? Yes. Okay. Is my player a guard? Yes. Oh, hell. Okay.

You're the chance we have here. He's going to win if you don't. Get out of his position. You got this. Yeah, top five at his position. One of the all-time greats Hall of Famer, and he's dark skin. I'm going nowhere. That's everybody. All right. Fuck.

Is this Kareem? No, it's not Kareem. Why didn't you narrow down first? Because he's going to get it. You could have asked one narrow-down question. Okay. He's played since 2010. He's not playing right now.

He's not a Hall of Famer. He's light skin. Shit. Not a Hall of Famer is fucking me up. What? Because he's retired, notable light skin, but not playing right now. But I'm guessing he's irrelevant. Like, it's not going to be a nobody.

Tony Parker. No. Fuck. I lokiy at that time. I thought I had it that time. Yeah. I thought it was going to be fishy. Okay.

Did my player win a playoff series last season? Nope. He did not. No. Okay. Did my play, is my player a big? He's not a big. Okay.

Okay, cool. Gotcha. Okay, I don't have Tony Parker. I feel like I got to just pull names because you're going to get it so fast. Non-lite skin, light skin, player. I feel like I'm going to caught up from the light skin. Is he like light-skinned, like that's like, that's like, it's like, it's not debatable? Yeah, like that's not, okay.

I'm not going to get mad and be like me. No, yeah, you're not going to. Okay, trust, trust. Is this a role player? No. Non-all-star, but also not a role player? Wait. Yeah, no, he's not a role player.

okay oh no i asked the hall of fame right and that's all-star so he is an all-star okay go ahead this kate cutting him fuck that's kate cutting him fuck man ah damn it my first win who you think you got uh is this top five at all time at his position curry no it's not curry you said playing today and you said lights oh yeah i did he's dark skin you're right dark skin not playing today okay so this if this is a guard is it's a kobe no it's dway Okay, so I have a player that's not playing today And not currently the league He's an all-star post-2010

Lightskin I would say Paul George if he's retired But he's not retired He's not light skin either Yeah, I mean, yeah yeah That's why I was asking like No, it's not debatable Okay, okay yeah yeah

Because he's like a lighter brown skin I guess No, no, no, no That's what I was like, it's not the line Yeah definitive Why am I blaking on light skin all stars In 2010? Is Darren Williams?

No, it's the light skin of the 2020 You took your guess. It's Blake Griffin. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, damn. Definitively nice. That makes sense. Yeah, when you said, like,

wasn't an all-star, I was like... You were an ass Hall of Famer. I was like, wait, did we, like, misguide him? I'm like... No, you did. I asked Hall of Famer. No, okay. Okay, let's do one more round.

This game is funny. Just do this all day. Yeah. Oh, shit. Hold on. Put my stuff off for some reason. Okay. Just dude being dudes.

Just be in dudes. Just be dudes. Just guessing names. Uh, no, it's facing you. There you go. Yep, yep. Trying to go two and oh. Okay.

Not two, no. Two and one. Yeah. Just trying to put two together. Yeah. String together victories. Is this the right way? Mm-hmm.

Okay, cool. What a game. What a concept. What we did this the first time you guys cooked? Yep, you're good. Oh. Whoever did it for the first time, just guess who? Yeah, no.

okay uh you won last time you won last time go first uh is my player a did my player make actually not let me not do that it do i have a current player do not have a current player okay let me not ask the same questions did my player win an MVP no did not damn you're you don't pull your hat back your hat's like pushing it forward there you go just for the camera that's the far back now okay is my player currently playing yes

finally I've had nothing but retired dudes today is my player a starter when he was playing yes yes okay

is my player a current player you know it's not a current player why do I get all these old people your players old as dirt get over it fuck

dig deep in your history bag please okay is my player's current today is my player a current day all star

no no uh did my play's You can't win a championship? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Damn, my player is not playing,

and he did not win a championship, too. You didn't ask that. What? You didn't ask that. You never asked that. Oh. I thought I asked. Oh, I said MVP, my better.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I asked. MVP, okay, cool. So didn't win the MVP. He's not playing a day. Think about something. And just ask. Take a shot. Take a shot.

He's old. Fuck, man. I'm not taking a shot. I'm not wasting it. Okay. Is he a power forward. Nope.

Nope. I don't think you've ever heard this player. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I think you don't know

who that is. Okay. My player's not a current day All-Star. Was that a player ever at All-Star? No.

Okay, so always been a role player. All right. Champion, retired player. Are they black? Yes. Wasn't it

was a funny question? Great question. It's not funny, man. It's a very real question. Very valid. Okay. Has my player averaged 20 points per game or over?

I think he might have done it once, if I remember correctly. Yeah, if it happened, it only happened one time, we would have to fact check that. Yeah, so don't take that. Damn, uncle's going on, man. You can't get 20? Just assume, no. I think he got real close. I can't remember.

He might have gotten just over 20. Okay. Is my player black? No. Damn, I got a white role player. Current day white role player. I'm cooking. All right, so I have a retired black champion.

Good for him I know Was my player Is my player A Come my player Shoot Yeah

Yeah I'll say so Is my player Does my player Did my player have his prime In the early to mid 2000s Yes Cool

Okay So I have a white role player Probably a shooter Probably a save assumption He's currently playing today Yes Yeah Is he currently playing in the Western Conference?

Yes. Noticing. This is Ray Allen? That is not Ray Allen. Damn. What a shot. You pulled it out. Okay.

Is this Chauncey Billups? No. That is not Chonsie Billups. You know who Chonsie Billups is? Okay. So I have a Western Conference white role player. Was my player drafted post-2015? No.

An old white role player in the Western Conference. Okay. Um, oh my goodness. Okay, was my player, was his career primarily in the Eastern Conference? Uh, no. Primarily, no. I don't know how to parse that. No, but not definitively.

Okay. This player wouldn't- Didn't get anything from that question? Nice. Kind of split, I guess. Like, we both could be argued for. My player hasn't won much. Didn't score over 20.

Okay. is he a talking head on national TV or has he does he have any type of presence? No media. Damn. No media whatsoever. I'll throw you that hand. I'll expand your question for you. What is I'm doing? This gentleman, probably. Okay. Western Congress, is my man a big man? No. Is my player in media? Yes. Yeah. In some capacity. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Is my guy

a guard? He is a guard. Damn, who's my guy? Western Conference, drafted, pre-2015 role player who's not a big white player so who are the white role player guards right now that were drafted pre-2015 it's not grace and allen don't even chenzo wasn't drafted pre-2015 mm-mm so my player of a championship yes okay that's helpful oh I think I know who it is does wait does he have a championship no no I thought it was house caruso i no longer know who it is yeah no he doesn't have a championship my yeah ringless yeah okay you're right you're right no rings you're right no rings okay but

he probably made it there judging by your no yeah my bad by your confusion okay yeah um was my player and my player an all-star yes was my player an all-star yes was he an all-star yes i think so fuck at least one time let me check that real quick i'll check them because i don't want to give you another ambiguous answer yeah Like, I'm literally mid, mid-2000s. So my player was an all-star, though. Your player was an all-star. Yeah, mid-2000s player.

Yes, your player was an all-star. He was an all-star. And again, you don't know who he is. He was a guard. Retired. Yep. Okay, so my job, drafted pre-2015. Pre-2015, is what I asked, drafted.

Mm-hmm. And he's currently playing role player mid-2000. Who's not an all-star, doesn't have a ring. He's just been around the block for a long time and he's still there. What the fuck? What? is my guy a good shooter yeah

but you don't know for sure that's the question mark no he's a good shooter okay he's a good shooter why is it so hard is this a hard one lokey okay

man I'm struggling right now because normally I would go to like to like eastern the western conference but I can't I can remember but they were

but they were they were a starter on this on the championship team they're a guard they're black nice yeah nice all right

we have to go Eric did they win their championship post 2015 no no okay did my players this is so hard play mostly in the Eastern Conference

no nope so Western Conference guard holy fuck I'm at a loss okay Western Conference has my player made the finals no no no why did you think you want a championship

fuck Western Conference Guard who was decent in the My, okay, did my player early in the 2000? Did they win their championship between the years of

2000 and 2014? Yes, 14 years, God damn. That's so broad. Yes, they did. Well, no, because I already cut out

post-2015, so I did. The operation's hilarious. Yes. Okay, so my player your guys are so easy easy okay so my player he never won no MVP he never went ahead and never went ahead

and like crack 20 he made a singular all-star team back in the west of conference prime is in the early to mid-2000s who the fuck is this guy He's really so bad if I don't get this. If I don't get this. No, yours is so easy. Oh, yeah, you're an idiot. Yeah, for sure. You're a doofus.

I feel like mine is impossible. Oh, you're an idiot too, for sure. Okay. Fuck, man. He has no motion. This is hilarious. Okay. Shot in the dark.

Is he? or was he bald? Yes. Okay. Make attraction. You can say that. Cool. I almost want to give up.

Who the fuck do I have? What player was never made of finals? I might have it, but also I don't know. Dude. My player hasn't made a finals. He's a good shooter, but you didn't react like he's amazing. White roll. Is this a forward?

Mm-mm. So it's a guard. Fuck. Is this Tonsi Billups? No. God. Dude. Win.

I'm so sorry to everybody Okay, fuck So my player Only every damn fucking He didn't crack 20 a game I'll check for you Make sure he did or not He made a singular all-star team

Played in the West No he never cracked 20 Yeah Never cracked 20 at all Fuck this is really like I might have it I'm literally in hell right now I'm literally in hell right now.

And I feel like I should know this player. Oh, wait. No, he's. I might have. Okay. Guess. Wait, no. I lost.

Okay. So I might have it. No. Did he play in L.A. at all? No. Is this T. Mocconnell? No.

Fuck me. Okay. Is this Jason Terry? No. No. Not Jason Terry. Start disfiring names. Jeez.

We got to end this. Okay. I don't know. I would, I would say. fucking Kenny Smith, but no. I'm struggling so hard. Say a name. You're gonna, you're gonna.

Yeah, let's just say names. Okay, last guess. Who's your last guess? No, you go. My last guess. It's not your last guess. Just your name's fast. Come on.

Fuck, man. I don't know. I can't think of West Conference girl who gets no buckets and made a singular all-star team and he has no accolades and he's bald. He's bald. He's bald. He's a loser, bro. Two thousand.

Okay. He's bald. Like, no media presence at all. like, who are we talking about right now? Who are we talking about right now? Did you give up? Go, give you your last case. Is this Ricky Rubio?

No, Rondo? No. I give up, I give up, I give up, I give up, I give up. What the fuck? He guessed around it. He said, Jason Daird, Ron. He said, Ray Allen, he said Rondo. He didn't guess around the best player.

Why are you looking like that? We didn't lead you a straight. Yeah, yeah. I need to go back and look at my question because I thought I asked if he was a guard and y'all said No you never asked guard No I don't remember you asking if he was a guard No we definitely wouldn't say yes

That's the only reason why I didn't go here That's not you I thought it was a guard I asked that you definitely didn't ask that self-inflicted I give up bro my only guess was like Kenny Smith nope Who the fuck do I have Actually one more guess one more guest one more guest I'm sick

Matthew Dovedova no He was not drafted pre-2015 he was not drafted at all He was not drafted at all That's what fuck to you I said was he drafted Pre 2015 He was not drafted

He was not drafted And you said Was he drafted pre 25? Oh no no I said Was he drafted What did I ask What was a verbage I asked You asked if he was drafted

And the answer is just no Because he was undrafted That still works Okay Yeah Hmm Yeah I got to

That got to Undrafted Okay Austin Reed Oh no I said was he drafted Post 2015 You said no

Yeah Whatever the verbage So, no draft. Okay, I do want you to die, but I do understand it. There is that. I do hate you, but I get it. I'm sorry. Dude, how did I...

I don't know why I was blank on the mind. Yeah, I would have for sure got it. Had I thought, if I was in the mindset that I had a forward or something, I thought, I could have swore I had a guard. I have no clue where you got that from. Honestly, I have no clue where you got the dark thing from. Because who's my last player? Who did I have left?

I don't remember. Who that was? Oh, Kate. Okay, yeah. Maybe you're just stuck on that. They got pulled together. I can't believe that, man. I can't believe that.

didn't get money. Yeah, I don't know why you assumed he was a boss. Man, let's go home, bro. As in this episode, if you're still here, comment whatever you want. Let us know if you enjoyed this episode. And we'll see y'all next week.