The Deep 3 Podcast - We Put The Best 2nd Round Picks in NBA History In A Tier List | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:15 Roundabout way saying I got some modern guys on here. I got some recently across some other eras all across the league. Where do you guys want to start? Let's just set the baseline. Let's put Nicole Yokage S tier. The greatest second round pick of all time. And there's no competition. I honestly, I think he's alone in this year.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I don't think we should put anybody else up there. Yeah, I 100% agree. I was thinking about it, like, who else could be there, but it's like, if one guy is winning three MVP. Yeah, yeah. There's nobody that deserves to be within striking distance of him. Yes. Monagionnobly.
Starting point is 00:01:45 A tier. That deserves A tier. Wasn't never like the guy on a team, but so much sustained excellence is an incredibly important part of the team. There's players on here that are probably a little bit had more responsibility, but nobody's more accomplished. And, and it's also like just, generally accepted that if Manu needed to do more, he could have.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah, he sacrificed for his team. That gives him brownie points. Okay. Mark you saw. DPOI. DPI. It is stolen, but it's okay. He has a championship.
Starting point is 00:02:16 He was a top 10 center in the league for a very long time. All-Star level player. Great defender. Like, probably top 30 defensive player of all time. Is he? Offensively good. He's probably B. I think he belongs in B.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Is he, he's not better all time than, or on the same level all time as Manu? No. No, Monter just has so much accomplishment to him. And like, like, always we're balancing how good they are and their accomplishments, like, all those things. Yeah. I think Manu has, like, utmost legacy points, like, peak, peak legacy points you could possibly have. But I feel like, even with Markets all, like, the legacy points of being, I guess it's more singular to Memphis, but, like, being a part of that, like, grit and grind. Like that, that is very big legacy.
Starting point is 00:02:56 That's a fun team that we remember. It didn't, like, do anything. You know, like, it's not in terms of, like, historically significant. Yeah. They got to the conference finals. No, shout on them. Cool era, but it's not, like, historically significant that we got to, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:07 He took grand grind to the finals. Yeah, exactly. I think when it comes to talking about Mark Gassol and his impact in the league, his, him and his error in stint are, like, a third layer of NBA conversations. No one's actually sitting down and talking about, like, man, like, you ran this. Like, no, he didn't run shit at all. I'm a huge Markisal respecter, though, so I think, I think B. Yeah, I love Mark.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I think his ability is getting to beat here. even though he didn't really have a mark on history per se, like some of these guys, but his abilities for a second round pick to be a star like this, if you're an all-star to me, like you're damned or guaranteed to be B. True.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Draymond Green. I think he's eight-tier, for sure. Yeah, I think he'd be the one that's like pushing on S. If you want to talk about legacy points, what you do for the team, what you do for the league, everything you encapsulate as a player
Starting point is 00:03:47 and his abilities, one of the greatest defenders of all time, has offensive skills, the perfect compliment to the best offensive player. We've seen in his position in Steph Curry. A tier.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I want to put a mess, but it would look crazy if at the end of this is just Yokichi and Draibati? No. It was a huge gap. We were decided. Nobody's stuck in Yokic. He is his own tier. If there's ever been a tier list that deserves to have one singular person is this one. This is probably the most unbalanced
Starting point is 00:04:09 tierless ever with one guy above the rest. We've done. Probably. Unless you're talking. It's more of like a pyramid than a tier list. Yeah. Unless you're thinking about like a team that has like one top 10 player all time and nobody else. And I can't even can't even remember who that would be. A magic tier list. Shack's probably singular. Actually, no, because then Dwight's there.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Whatever. Yeah. Gilbert Arenas. How do you compare Gilbert arenas to Marcosol? Markisal is better, I think. But the peak of, I think, like, Gilbert's peak and him being an all-MBA player and being this, like, future prototypical type of point guard where you are just going to go out and get buckets. Very true. It's very fun, but also the prime just lasted so short that I feel like we have to go see. Yeah, I was thinking see as well.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Because it's like the prime lasted short, and then you came back and did what you did. So we kind of have to go. Markisal also has a ring. You know, it wasn't as one of the more important players, but he has a ring. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:03 I mean, it was damn mere pivotal for that. I don't know if, I'm not going to say, I don't know if they don't want to ring. But Jonas Valenzuela was the starting center there. And they realized that that was a fucking problem. They needed more of a presence.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And so Marcusol, yeah, definitely differs to B&B. I know I said if you're an all-star, you get to B tier. I lied. I changed my mind immediately. Gilbert Rina is a C tier.
Starting point is 00:05:21 We can have all stars in C. That is fine. Well, I mean, that no go ahead I mean it changes when you're committing felonies
Starting point is 00:05:29 on and off the court pre and post retirement what are you talking about okay Chris Middleton he might be C tier
Starting point is 00:05:41 honestly could be teetering B though low key I'm thinking like D I feel he's a he's a good player
Starting point is 00:05:49 but like I don't think like you're right you're right he's he's good Gimmaris is better but Chris Middleton did have a year where he was a pivotal part of winning a championship
Starting point is 00:05:56 he just did more because you know if you got drafted Xionis and not drafted traded to be Dexionis and Gilbert didn't so not his fault but he played an essential part of winning a championship he did but that but that's also because like one like he did the stuff
Starting point is 00:06:10 he scored 40 in the finals game I do want to give him all that credit his co-star at the time was also running Dunkman and needed somebody to take those shots he did it but he was never like an overwhelming score in the way that like gilbert was so i think on like just talent that's why i'm putting them in a different
Starting point is 00:06:27 tier to quote donovan smooth at a certain point we had to pay respect to what the people accomplish on the court and chris milton again second option on championship team all right fine i guess that's that's fine i'm not saying you should be above gilbert i agree for what you're saying that he's better but i feel like if one's a little bit one's better it's not like gilbert arena's like a first team all NBA player it's not like he's exceptional yeah you know so i think he's better than a guy who's barely an all-star but accomplished less that feels like even to me I think we both have the same amount of all-stars. Gilbert arenas does have three all-mbias to his name.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But Chris has medal to his name, too, and also... Metal to his name. What do you mean metal? Ring. Yeah, he was a ring. Oh. That's steel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I thought he said, like, like, Olympic thing. No. I was like, do you play in like the people war? No. I'm not talking point at all. He did. He did that year they sucked and they didn't win. Yeah, I mean, he was a part of the reason.
Starting point is 00:07:16 But anyway. Dennis Rodman. I know, we asked the job. You lost the World Cup. I can't respect Kevin Durant When I see you Dennis Rodman
Starting point is 00:07:24 Does he belong in B as well? Actually no I feel like for For somebody who is as influential and impactful To the Bulls And to the Pistons And multiple like dynasties
Starting point is 00:07:39 Or just like iconic eras He kind of has to be A Yeah, you probably I'd be right next to Dremont honestly Yeah I got to think Dremont is a little bit better For things we talked about In the episode today
Starting point is 00:07:47 But everything's distracting distance of each other, similar mold. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, I had them right next to each other. Isaiah Hardinstein. The newly minted champion, Isaiah Hartensine, champion on a starter champion. A starter on a champion.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Definitely detere for sure. We could have F conversations just because like these are. Is he the worst player on here? It's, there might be a tie. It's a tie. But he won a championship as a starter. I will say if I ask the question, is he the worst player on here? and we can confidently say
Starting point is 00:08:19 like it's a tie yes we might have to put him in F. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's more matter of who I picked
Starting point is 00:08:26 rather than they got to a little meta. But okay, we can go Isaiah Hartstein F tier just because they're all good players. Yeah, he's a great player. Somebody has seen the bottom.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Fred Van Vleet. Is he better than Riley Hartzine? Yeah, he's, he won a, he made an all-star team. He did make an all-star team. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I think he belongs indeed. He made an all-sart team the year after Kau-Laf when they still maintain relevancy post-coi and were like surprisingly good stack up on people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Let's put him in D. Because he also was like, look, Hardinstein was great for the team all year. But there were times where like they weren't really playing them, even in the finals. Yeah. Van Bleet was hitting shots. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Key part of 2019. He's a pillar to, he's been a pillar to two different teams in his career. Like one of the most important factors. And Isaiah Harstine's is simply not that at all. Yeah. And listen, sometimes Rockies fans kind of hate him,
Starting point is 00:09:11 but important part of their turnaround. Exactly. Alex English. also 8 tier immediate 8 tier the only besides Yok is probably
Starting point is 00:09:19 the only superstar on here whoa what superstar Alex English yeah Taylor's a superstar
Starting point is 00:09:26 the whole famer no that's not well I'm saying Carlos Boozer oh B tier B tier very solid I think
Starting point is 00:09:36 Marcus Hall's meaning to be better than Carlos Boozer but I don't know Coles did have some years on the jazz
Starting point is 00:09:39 like I feel like he's I don't feel like he's C tier he's just one of inconsequential all stars like the 2000s like there's
Starting point is 00:09:44 like there's just guys that you just, like, forget about. Yeah. I'm taking Carlos Boozer, because he. I'm taking Markisaw's career or Boozer. And I think at their peak, I'm taking the defensive acumen and spacing of Marcosal. Yeah. But is your beard crispy? I mean, is it, come on.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I'm just saying he got it crispy. There is a sharp line there. By any means necessary. What is the process to that, though? And I, you know, we know, no, no, no, no, no. We don't put enough. I like that. We don't put enough respect
Starting point is 00:10:14 I'm called Boozer's Beard game. It's like Barry Bonds Before the PEDs he had good beard There was a prime there Before he decided to cheat And even though that
Starting point is 00:10:23 I don't like cheating Like just in general Sometimes you're so outlandage with it I have no choice But to respect it Because it's like if you're gonna live like that Go ahead Do what you want to do
Starting point is 00:10:33 Kyle Corver F2 F easily F Shout out of all time now Ben Wallace I think he's up below A tier? I mean, if we put Rodman
Starting point is 00:10:48 In 8th, well, Rodman has Four-time D.O-I won a championship as either the best player or one of the core They're all similar at good levels. We can go A-T-R, that's fine. Yeah, we can go A-Tier. Eight-Ters is packed.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Four-time DPOI is insane. A-Tier is packed right now. But none of them should be like, that makes sense. Markis-all being right below them makes sense to me. So it's a weirdly, it's a weirdly distributed list,
Starting point is 00:11:08 but it's making sense. Yeah. And last one at least, Jalen Brunson. Aha. I'm going to age here. I think to go from where, from where obviously the second round picks, but he's had deep playoff runs.
Starting point is 00:11:24 He has had good playoff runs. He is an all-NBA player as well. I think offensively like, offensively he's been as good as you can ask, as you can like reasonably ask of somebody. But he's an all-star, best player on a team that's like making finals, runs. They're making pushes. They're a threat in the conference. They're not necessarily like going to win a
Starting point is 00:11:47 championship. I don't think that probably never happened. But they're a relevant team out there and he's them he's the engine of that team. I do feel like also the jewelry though in a tier like those guys are all decorated but they're not the guys. Yeah. I think I mean their careers are over. Let's just wait
Starting point is 00:12:03 another five years and see what happens. Yeah, I know about anybody. But I think Jim Brunswick belongs in A tier for slightly different reasons. He's been of course like the top 10 11 player back to back years and then on top of that
Starting point is 00:12:17 so you almost even want to drop him an F but anyways My only hesitation is Marcus Hall's beat here Marcus Saul is probably also like the 11th best playing the league
Starting point is 00:12:25 for some years also took the team to know conference finals But did he sacrifice money like Jalen Brunson? Hey, he's dumb that's not my problem I'm almost wondering
Starting point is 00:12:32 if it's like the same resume as Marcosol like I appreciate I think Jalen Brunson maybe you tell me he's a little bit better okay but I almost feel like It's comparable to Marcosol
Starting point is 00:12:44 And it's a real similar resume But mind you Markisaw did that over a career We're talking about what's been going on in the last He's pushing 30 In the last two three years Jayland Bruns is pushing 30 He's 28
Starting point is 00:12:56 He's pushing 30 He's turned 29 Yeah relax He's about turn 29 I low key think B tears Probably the answer You know I want to go A Yeah
Starting point is 00:13:06 I think if you made the finals Then he could be A easily Yeah So far I just didn't there yet There's a lot of players, of course, history that, like, at this point, like, at this point, he's at this point, he's on a good team in terms of, like, a few years of, like, being really good and talented. He's just on a slightly better team that's making it further than the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And he's not a felon. Like, that's why he's your hires. That's two tiers. Yeah, he's not a felon. But I do think Brunson will get to A tier. You can't play in the NBA in a jail cell, and Brunson is nowhere near that. He's a good podcaster. I'm putting him in A tier.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I do think he'll get to A tier. I think for now, it looks a lot like Markersoll's career. Okay. But he will get there. He'll get there. He's going to find us. Gilbert? He's got the connects.
Starting point is 00:13:52 What'd you say? So does.

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