The Deep 3 Podcast - We Ranked The Best Offensive Players In The NBA | Ep. 199

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

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I don't know if you're aware, but over the course of the history of this show, we've ranked a lot of things. We have. I have aware. I'm not sure what we haven't ranked. What's the weirdest thing we ranked? Cake, I think. Not even weird. Most random.

I think cake. Yeah. We've even ranked cake. I was thinking NBA players of different sorts, but we've also ranked cake. With that being said, there's one thing that we've somehow never done an episode about. And it's actually, especially at this moment in this time when certain players are playing the way they are, kind of the most interesting thing we could rank today. And as you guys see by the title, that is us ranking. The top 30 offensive players in the NBA, we're going to sit down and rank just the

offensive side of the ball who is number one through 30. Very difficult atop this year. Honestly, the top was kind of fine for me. It was the lower half of like, because then once you get to like 15 through 30, then it really starts to be like, okay, am I putting this player on here just because I like him? more like how are like my biases coming into this list exactly so we'll get into what exactly means to all of us but just the offensive side of the ball no defensive production I suppose we'll probably talk about some elements of like playoff rising and like moments what you're done

yeah that shit like that but just offensive value as a score playmaker rebound or whatever it means to you just that who's the best all right let's do it man cue the intro music oh actually before i cue the intro music i got to remind you guys by the time you guys watch this there will be a community post up on youtube that it will be a community post forever episode 200 that comes out on Monday. We are doing a big Q&A episode about a bunch of basketball topics, but also mostly non-basketball topics. So if you guys want to hear us talk about whatever questions you have about us, the show, our lives, anything you want, go to the community posts on our YouTube channel and leave your question and we'll respond to those ones that get

the most likes or whatever else you find interesting. Please don't waste this opportunity. I think this is like maybe the second or third. This is like the second or third Q&A that we had. Don't ask us no bullshit, man. That's just real conversations. You get to have your question answered by the God, Mojo, 99. Go ahead, please. Be into deep thought mode. This is y'all time to get it off, man.

Get it off. That'll be the episode 200. We'd mostly be a big, huge Q&A getting all your guys' questions out there. Opportunity. Now that would be said, cue the intro music. Let's make some players. It's a Chris, bro, mean, mean, green. We're throwing it back.

That's crazy. He was bragging. The cranium is crazy. Oh my God. Crown eaters rejoice. So like usual, these rankings, we'll be revealing five by five until we get our entire top 30. And like we started last time, if you guys saw our young player rankings, B-Soles is now going to be the judge of the rankings. As you guys see on the screen right now, there's zeros next to our names.

He will be assigning points, adding and taking away points based on whatever he wants, I guess. Let's get over five points today, fellas. It's going to be on me. You got to be much more willing to give out points. What was the, like, who was the highest? Like two. It was like two to zero to negative one. Yeah, you was in the negative.

I was in debt. So based on your takes, whatever. I shouldn't even say based on anything. It's whatever the fuck people's feels like. We'll see what he gets points for. But what that means says, get into it. The first five of my list is at 30, Lamello Ball, 29 Deeran Fox, 28, Jimmy Butler, 27, J-dub, Jalen Williams,

26, Desmond Bain. The bottom eight to 10 are the ones I have the least confidence in by far. It's a bunch of guys that are like elite second options, or in some cases maybe like low-level first options, guys that like aren't the premier guys that are so jumbled up to me that I sat here for hours tweaking this. At some point I had been like 21. than having number 26.

Jada was like 17, 927. Like the ranges here are so big that I'm not mad if you guys like Bimily disagree with any of these. Yeah, I think I'll start off. So Jimmy Butler didn't make my list.

Same. Just because. I understand why. Wait, he didn't make your list? No. Okay. It's a point. Damn it.

Wait, wait, wait, Bezos. He didn't make my list either. Hey! It's a point. You know what? Negative points. I'm not you're being on your list.

Celtics fans Perfect I hate him yeah he did like Jimmy didn't didn't make my list obviously because of the injury and the last couple times

that we've seen him we've been like yo please do more offensively and Jimmy's like nah I'm good and like there's been like that struggle of of wanting him to scale up

but him really really buying in to doing like the other stuff the really big connecting stuff within the warrior stuff within the warrior system which is obviously there you go

and that's what I'm saying super impressive like I get why you're you put it there and he genuinely can fit on any team on any roster and can do all the things to make that team better. It's just been a long time. I have no idea what the Jimmy Butler experience is going to be moving forward. He's the thing. If he's scaling up and being what we used to see where he drug team to the finals and was his playoff riders that can give you 40, he'd be top 15. This is that version of him, I think, that like you said, he isn't quite the same level of

the on-ball score that he once was, isn't going to be taking as many shots as he once was. and maybe that bothers you because you've seen old Jimmy and you have those memories of what you know who's capable of in his prime, that's fine. That guy's gone. And now we have just an incredibly impactful second, third option guy that does all the little things. And now we praise Derek White for being such a great

offensive player this year without his shot going in. Jimmy Butler is of the same ilk. Great rebounder, great playmaker this year. Very efficient rim finisher can play on or off ball, can set screens, can be in the dunker spot, can spot up from three, can run in transition. He does everything you want as a complimentary star that that's why we love J-Dub.

He's very similar to me. His offensive player is J-Dub. In fact, there's a lot of ways that he's better. I went J-Dub one spot higher. I struggle with him a little bit for a different reason we get into just because the ceiling

of the way he can do on ball and the scoring explosions at this point might be a little bit higher. But I think you could very feasibly argue that Jim Bueller should be even higher than this. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think this range 26 to 30, really you can extend it to like 26

to maybe 34-35 can be shuffled in any type of way possible and it'll make sense. Like I see it's something like you have lamello ball here he's by far like the least efficient dude here but it's fucking valid.

Yeah, he barely gets on there and it's kind of a similar thing where like him and Fox are similar to me that where actually no they're not similar they're actually very opposites and I'm saying it but they're like flawed players in Fox's case

he hasn't asked to do a whole lot this year so that's going to make people want to take him lower because his accounting stats aren't very good for his standards you know but that's because he's just playing in a team that has chosen to empower multiple ball handling

make him have his lowest features in a long time, make him play offball, focus on defense more, and do a lot of small stuff as a secondary player rather than go run high pick and roll 25 times a game. So his numbers might not look that impressive, but he still has immense value in that role. I feel similarly with Lamello that his numbers don't look that impressive because he's just a horrible score inside the arc. It's really terrible. But he's so impactful that he has to make it here. The way he gets a team out in transition immediately, the way he gets a high volume three-point

shot now over the top of the arc that really stresses a defense and allows. stuff to open up for other people. Like, they're both kind of there for reasons outside of just their points, rebounds assist that I think are really important to their team. Similarly for Jimmy Butler. Yeah, I agree. I love the Bain placement. Yeah, I want to put him higher.

Know what I thought about with him? I'll put him a little bit higher. Yeah, I thought about it. One, he's just been amazing this year. In the second half of the year, in Palos was blowing up, so was he. It really is the thing where I look at him in J-dub and I say, okay, if J-dub had Bain's offensive with J-dub's defense, but that make him a better or worse player, probably better.

Bain's a better shooter. Probably a more skilled driver. Also a pretty good passer, which Jadab is. I don't know why I would put Bain below Jadub, even though you kind of have that in your head that J-dub's all-N-B-A player. Bain's just like forgotten third option. It's just like the all-around defensive versatility,

probably, and like how you can ask him to do literally anything and everything on the court, and he can look at that task. And like, okay, I can do some with this compared to Bain. There's obviously literally limitations with that. But I agree with you. When it comes to just straight up, Offensive talk, though, this is not a bad place. I didn't do it.

So, spoiler, Palo's liar. I almost put Bain above Palo and Wagner. I was really tempted. I almost feel like maybe I should. Maybe I'm wrong, but I decided not to last second. I think there's some argument that he's a better offensive player than those two guys. Wow. That's not crazy.

Yeah, it's not crazy. I didn't do it, obviously. I changed my mind last second with all the tinkering I'm talking about. But I think you would really, especially with the whole season thinking about it, if you're going to really index on Palo's struggles, you could feasibly argue that Bain's the best offensive player on that team. It's not crazy to say that. You're ridiculous.

Next five. Okay. Next five. Very different. 30. I have Zion Williamson. 29. Tyler Hero.

28. 83 point, man. 27. Seacum. And 26. I have con-connibble. Just the best shooter in the NBA. Hey, man.

If this list is any indication of what Donovan's thoughts are, y'all are going to call me the biggest concordible glazer in the world. Are you dead ass? Now, I will say, I cannot, when it comes to how I think about the Charlotte Hornets, I cannot look at them and be like, yeah, like Concutable's the best offensive player. It's fair if you want to do so. Like obviously, like, their offense is obviously looks like so much more different with La Mello Ball in versus out in the lineup and all the metrics and numbers point to that as well.

Everyone's just so much more free and all that. But con is a singular player. He is like the better offensive player. But when it comes to everything else, that's like has to do with it. Not putting the ball in a basket. Lamella ball is just like, it's hard to, it's hard to have that conversation. And that's for Zion Williamson, bro. I don't know if you guys have him on this list.

But I know that if I put the ball more often in Zion Williams' hand than what the pelicans are doing right now, I know for sure he's going to walk into 25, 5 and 6, maybe 7 rebounds a game. For 27 games a year. Listen, man, he's been healthy. You can't say that right now. Come on now. This is the healthiest he's been in like basically fucking forever. Yeah, and you're not getting the 25, 5. Offensively, he's still at historic levels when it comes to, or he's slowly getting back to historic levels when it comes.

is efficiently. He's still very good. I don't know about historic levels anymore, but I know what you're saying that if you went back to playing point Zion and really empowered him in a way the pelicans clearly have not, he is still the same Zion.

He's not like, it's not like he lost a step and can't jump high anymore. He still is Zion, so I understand you. Does anyone else have Zion? I think he was my first cut, which I really should have had him

over Lamello, I think, over Fox, but he and who else was in my one of my first cuts? I have, him and Denny were our first cuts. I have like eight people on my first cuts. Like this last five was insane. tough. Oh, it was Zion, Tray Young, and Denny

were the three had a cut. Is Zion on your list on? No, one of my first cuts, Trades, one of my first cuts as well. Yeah, it was tough. Okay. Well, I'm a Zion fan, so. Freaks unite.

I'm glad you, like, I'm glad you claim it, and I'm glad you understand who you are. I'm glad you understand you're the resident gooner. Yes. Shout to Pascal Siyahka, man. He's over here playing his hardest over there. in Indiana, don't know when we give a damn. Yeah, shout of them. I don't think Siakam out of bio and hero should be on the list, but I respect it just because

these guys are obviously all close. Conman. I think he's way more talented than Lamello as an offensive player. I think obviously the on-off numbers are what they are, and I think that's, it shows how impactful Lamello is outside of his scoring because the playmaking and everything we talked about and why he's on his list. I think

it also has to do with the fact that there's zero good playmakers on the roster outside of him. Do they truly live and die by him? I just think the one, I think people overplay the amount that Lamello sets up con canipple and vice versa. People act like Khan just stands in the corner and catches the ball that Lamello sets him up every time. Like, you watch these games. They're not just like not running the ball through Khan.

He does plenty of ball handling, plenty of driving, plenty of creation. I think that's underestimated. And that's part from just like obvious biases being a spot up shooter as a rookie. He already does a ton on the ball. I think his scoring impact inside the arc is incredible and already just as impactful as any elite sharp sure you'll find. I think he's truly already elite offensive player that for this team,

they need Lamello's playmaking incredibly bad because behind him is a bunch of non-playmakers. But I think if you put them on 30 other teams across the league and put Lamello every team, Kahn on every team, you would see most teams rise more with Kahn. Yeah, yeah. I think I would agree with that. Lemello is just a weird-ass player.

And for this specific situation scenario, I think he's just a little bit more, I don't even say more valuable, but when it comes to what the shot one is lacking, considering what they like yeah it's they need it more so right now in this this singular year like he is the more valuable offensive player for me personally it's but my thing is so you have concan a lot higher than doesn't bain i'm talking about a lot higher than doesn't bade i'm not that's kind of crazy to me that right there is kind of crazy and if you want to say i should but bain a lot higher

go for it but i i i i put on dangerously high i think because that's like yeah okay dangerously high's hilarious got them top 10 bro no Dangercy High Island. I thought I thought I was doing a little bit too much with respecting Khan. Hell no. I think Con is an incredible officer player. Wow. I think you're hating actually.

How about that? You driving him to the airport? High pie? I ring him like I would drive him to his new home that I bought him. Oh my God. Did you bought for him? All right, Donovan, who you got? At 30, I have Denny.

29. I have Shingoon. 28, I have Franz. At 27, I have Pascal Seacum. And at 26, I have Kat. Damn, all international players. I will say, let's get him out of here. I'm not team world.

I will say. As an immigrant, I'm going to give you a point. I immediately, like the hardest name on this list to put on here that for some reason, I just can't quit it. I was tying him out. I was last night, I just could not find a reason to not, to leave him off. Shengu probably shouldn't be on this list. but like

no he should be but he hasn't earned it but he should be and like I wanted to put him on this list and I was just like you know what he's going to be here regardless

so there's that point I understand that the numbers are the numbers but there's just something about Shangoon in his game and the way that something about Flacco yeah

feel safe so he's on this list Franz we've just seen a lot of inconsistency with the with the injury that like I just I would like to see Franz play for 50 straight games.

And really, really, really cement his status with as like one of the best offensive players. Seacom, like you said, every year, Seacom is just going to come in. He's going to average 20. He's going to be great. Like he's going to have some of these high moments where he can go out and get you 30, 35. He's one of the most consistent scoring options that we have in the league.

And then Kat, just offense? Kat's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I had him to slow it first. too then I was like and what I do I had him really low and then I was like damn I am hating on carlithy town really around here I went 26 so the reason why I didn't have him hire is because

there are times where especially this year where the assertiveness isn't isn't 100% there and there's times where he can take advantage of mismatches and he's not really doing that there also him as a driver when it's good it's really really good when he's bad he is completely out of control. He gets so many offensive files and so many of his of his tiki-tack files come from him just barreling down down the lane with no purpose or no really idea

of where like the next step is going to go. And so that's where the drawback comes with Kat. But we're just talking about the seven-foot guy who can shoot as well as as anybody and can space the floor. And when he's in his bag, can play down low in the post, can drive by, five,

pose a lot of mismatches. That he should be on the list, obviously, but there's just a lot of stuff, even off the third. Yeah, that's what I had in there too. I don't like his style of play. It's like,

I don't really want cat on my team in terms of like what you got to pay him, what it realistically means to have a Carltonutown's led team and like how you got to play through and to maximize him. I don't enjoy his play style. And I think the drawbacks that you just outlined are real. But then I was like,

I got to get real. He is the spacing he provides. For all the fucking minging and crying we've done about the Knicks this season. The fact they're still one of the best offensive teams in the league is in large part because they have a weapon like cat at the five that does give you a crazy offensive floor. So I decided to bump him up a little bit, but he's not like top 15 or anything. And I feel like some people are going to like see a Wembe super high and be like,

why isn't Kat as good offensively as one be, you know, like just offensively. So I still had him a good amount lower for everything you outlined. But I had to kind of meet the middle a little bit. Yeah, fuck all that. I'm not going to laugh. I left him off my list. I was definitely like hating. And I could have put him over like Todd.

but I feel like if I'm just building a like consistent offense and my number one goal to enter a year is I want to be like number one an offensive rating by far. Something like Tyler Hero would be just more conducive to that. That's not true. What? That's not true. That's a crazy. Bro, cat is down efficiency wise fucking all across the board, bro. He fixed it.

Last 20 games, he's up more efficient again. Well, great. This is an 82 game season. I love that. But I'm talking about throughout the entirety of the year. You're right. He has been much better across all the first. two, but over the last 20 games, but I'm talking about overall throughout this year,

maybe next year I can have a conversation to be on this list, but this year, no, without like bleak things have been all around. Yeah, but I'm not, I'm not digging people for having a slow starts the seasons happen all the time. If we have years and years and we know that's not who he is, and then he shows us not who he is, I'm inclined to give them a benefit of doubt that it's just a rough stretch. I did the same thing with Palo. I put him up higher based on the recent stretch where, like, we know he's not the least efficient shooter in the league, like he was the first 40 games.

Same thing with Kat, we knew he wasn't that terrible from three especially. I gave him benefit of the doubt because he turned it around for almost a 30 game sample now. That the only thing I disagree with is the Tyler Hero nod that he's more conducive to the best offensive league. That's fucking crazy. I think if I'm like making a team right now as he speak and I want to be number one in offensive rating and have like the most consistent offense possible, like there's just a lot less of, there's a lot less that I have to rely on with someone like Carranti Towns or something like Tyler Hero than some like Carr Anthony Towns. Like I think. Wait, you don't think Kat can be a part of like. the number one offensive.

Of course he has been before. Less than Tyler. If I'm, if I want to be the number one offensive league and I'm like building a team right now, I think I would be, I would have an easier time doing that around Tyler Hero with a side piece versus Carlinthe Towns having to treat him as like one of the best players on the team. Last 20 games, Carlton Towns has 66% true shooting.

62% from 2, 39% from 3, 20 points per game. Hero will never do that a day in his life. You know, I like the blade dating. So I'm going to give you a point. Oh my God. Tyler here. 20 pounds of muscle. I'm sick of Tyler Hero. Yeah. Let's get these points out, man.

I like Tomi Hero to go to gym. I don't like this. Tyler Hero needs to get some fucking muscle on his frame. I don't like this man. I'm tired of Tyler Hero, man. But Tyler Hero's good. He's good, of course. Yeah. But like, he's fine. Do you think Tyler Hero would get more respect to fused buff?

I think he'd be better if he was buff. I just don't think we like Tyler Hero. I think of watching a drive and like have to finish around people and have this light frame. That's being built like Jackman. Moe who got 25 and 21? That's me. At 25, I have, oh, is you.

He just sat with it for a second. At 25, I have Lamello. At 24, I have con. At 23, I have Lari. At 22, I have Darius Garland. At 21, I have James Hardin. 21, James Hard. I love that you have Garland and Hardin right next to each other.

I think that's like one of the more accurate things, only because I did the exact same shit. Larry Mark and I'm not going to lie. I didn't put them on my list. I probably should have put on my list. and he was one of the first cuts for me. But it's just so hard to, like, think about Utah. They're, like, competitive for, like, 15, 20 games at the start of the year, every single year.

And then they just, like, die off. It's so weird. But I think this is very accurate to have, like, marking and can nipple and ball, like, right next to each other. Now, I will say. Hardening, Garland, should be a tier higher. I don't know. So, Khan. I wanted to put Khan at the top of this tier.

and I was like, you know what, let me just slow down for a second. But if you're telling me, like, right now, gun to my head, we have to go to a playoff series and out of these five guys, who am I taking, I'm taking con. I just, the only reason why- The guy you never seen in the playoffs. That's one. Also, Lari, too. Yeah, so I've seen Hardee in the playoffs, don't want that. I've seen, I haven't seen Lauerie in the playoffs.

Lamello also hasn't really shown it in the two playing games that he's had. True. And then Darius, in the, in the, You're the only one I've heard referenced Lamella's playing performances. Because we've done it 10 times. He must have had some money down on that pitch. That's why he talks about it all the time. He must have been on his last.

That's his 50. Mind you. Mind you. The NBA has done a disservice to its fans by not having playing stats readily available. I promise you if they did, then other people would remember. But like the two instances that we've had of Lamella Ball in a like winner go home situation, he hasn't played well. He shot terribly.

And those are the only two data points that we have. So yes, I'm going to bring them up right now. All I'm saying is that for Khan, I want to see him just do it in the playoffs. I'm not doubting him that he can do it. I just want to see it. And then as soon as it happens, you are on the fast track to be in the next tier. Yeah. No, I understand.

Actually, I misremembered it. I lowered Khan last second. So Khan is in this tier for me as well. Originally, I had him in the tier above when I was getting dangerous. But I agree with you. He's in this tier around the same spot. Yeah. Okay.

Okay, fair. Hardin and Garland. So Garland just came back to Clippers. Killing it. Killing it. So with that being said, I'm giving him credit

that I can think of him as the dearest Garland of previous years and not the one that was hurt early in the season because we know he was dealing with injuries. That's not who he was.

Clearly top 20. And same thing with Hardin. Have you seen Hardin? Have you seen Harton how good he's been since he's been in the Cavaliers? Like he had that stretch before he got shirt the Clippers after the hot star

where the efficiency really fucking died. He has been killing it again as a score with Cavs. The playmaking is amazing. They're both, and shooting they bring, to me they're both at least a tier above. The Hardin stuff, since Hardin left Philly, the efficiency has really dropped off the cliff.

Like, he's seen the resurgence in Cleveland, but before that, it just wasn't there. And so that's why I kind of had him here at 21 is because I think as we start moving up, there are going to be a lot of guys who are number one options and complete, like, offensive engines of very, very solid teams. I don't think you can ask that apart at this moment. I don't think you can ask James Harden to be an offensive engine of a team that is going to be a top six seed in in their conference like that. Yeah, we're seeing it now. I think you can ask him to be the best player.

They have Donovan Mitchell. Exactly. So what is the engine mean? He's not the leading score. He can't be leading scorer. But is there three more impactful playmakers in the entire NBA? I'm saying like him being like the best play. He's not the best offensive player on that team.

All right now that you know there. But is there three better playmakers in the NBA than him right now? I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe whatever he's in that conversation and to me that carries a lot of weight. Yeah you don't have to be like the best player on your team to be considering it. Like you wouldn't say that about I mean obviously like Tyrese Halliborne was a best player on Indiana Pacers and he was like the engine of that other thing too. So it's like kind of different conversations. We're going to Jamal Murray top 15 I'm guessing like Jamal Murray is a hundred percent.

Yeah, 110 percent. I agree. I think Harding can have similar value. Yeah. You just hate not harder for no reason. We another reason. Yeah. Life more and vitrials. Is it

B. So is it lifelong vitro If you've seen somebody Pissed down their leg For 10 straight years In the playoffs Whenever you ask them to be good at the thing that they are Because he's not a great defender Right

So he really is like he's made his Offensive list Exactly He's made his Wait say it again Offensive list Offensive list His value comes on the offensive side of the ball

You are an offensive player Can you provide us some offense In the biggest moments that we ask you to And James Harden repeatedly tells you year and then you're out. Actually, no, I don't want to do that. I better now. So are y'all making the case that he should be like way higher? No, I'm not saying higher, but higher. It was just this process behind that. That's it. And mind you, we're going to do all this. They're going to have them at 19. They're going to have

them at 18, two, two, three spots higher. I got a meeting here. And James Hardin is like, he's, he's cool. This is also 18. This is 18 games, right? That he's playing along. He's had a great season outside of that. obviously he had a rough stretch shooting wise before he got traded. We're not going to forget the first 30 games where he was looking like vintage James Hardin and we were talking about how it's the best scoring he's done in years. James Hardin was not fucking got off before Cleveland. What do you mean 18 games?

18 games in which like the numbers are like crazy crazy because he's been he has been very, very good in Cleveland. What I'm saying is James Harder right now and for the last five years is going to be a guy that is very much tasked to the secondary role on a on a team that is going to, is going to actually do a lot of things. As we start to get higher in this list, I think a majority of these people can be not only that secondary option,

but can also scale up and provide number one production for a team that is going on. A second option I can scale up and get 90 is a definition of James Hardin to me. I agree with you. Everything you said I agree with, I just think that's, you just have said the guys above him do that.

I think it also applies to Hardin. Yeah, I would need to see a name of him. I better not see a single second option above him and a single playoff sitter. above me. A little better off the playoffs demons. I think, I think out of all of those people in that tier, I think I would rather have some of these other guys over James Hardin. And I think right that's very fair. The only thing that tripped me up was how you're talking about. He is like not necessarily the engine of the team or the best player. And I think you don't have to be

both of those things at all. I think when I think specific, well, maybe not specifically for Cleveland, but with Cleveland, when both of your stars as basically a lot of stars, but like, when DeMitch is also a very offensive-leaning player. For sure. And you have James Harden. Like that team is going to go with DeMits. Like I think James Hardin. What do you mean by that?

They're both getting, what do you mean? He's just finding new ways to hate. Yeah, what does that mean? They're both incredibly valuable. There are two-star players, the balls in their hands. I don't see any reason to diminish Hardin's importance come playoff time, especially when you're saying you're down on him because you don't believe in playoff time.

Then to say they go as far as DeMitch is, both those things can't be true. Either he matters a lot or then why would you dig him for the the playoff performance. Because whether he, he matters because obviously you have the standing in in the team, that's one. Two, you also kind of matter because AT&T, I need to see what he's going to do as well. Three, it matters, but it's also baked in as like, I'm already expecting you to fail us in the playoffs.

Now, whether or not you meet my expectations of failing in the playoffs, that does not, that does not remove the stink from the fact that you still failed. And so when that happens, when James Hardin does the James Hardin playoff stuff, that's going to be a problem. And it's he's going to have a bad playoff game. I'm going to come up here and I'm going to be like, wow, we saw James Hardin in the playoffs. And then I just going to be like, well, you know, it's just like we've seen it over and over

so you can't really expect it. Like you were wrong to even think to even think about it in the first place. We can't, we can't do that. We can't do that. I mean, he belongs on this here for a reason. We're not arguing to get you. Show their list. Show their list.

Show their list. Because if they are not, if they are not like, if James Hardin is not 15 or higher. What? What do you want to ask one question? This is me using a big word. Do you think you're over indexing on one game? People. Game.

Or like a couple playoffs. Pop your shit, big. On one. They over indexing. Never the little one. I'm over indexing. Do you think you're being on one game? Do you think you're being on the public?

We better see Dave's heart of top 15 our list. What the fuck? No. We've gone, we've gone through this in previous episodes, but is the way that he ended the 25 season poorly? Yes. Did he end the 24 season poorly?

Yes. 23? Correct. 22? Correct. 21. We will give him grace because of the hamstring injury. That's fine.

2020? Yes. 2019? Yes. 2018. Every single one of these years, he's going. out sad in the playoffs every single year i feel like his playoff stuff is very very heavily documented

and so to to sit here and be like are you over indexing hell no i don't think i'm over indexed okay you know what that's that's a point man i love this hate even if it's not hate it's not hate no i love the energy so i'll give you this so much i get it off for no it's not hate i don't i don't disagree with you it's not we don't disagree with you it's just the level to which you kingdom for it. He just went out your way to go ahead and punch the fuck out of it. No, I didn't. We didn't say that he's top 15. Listen, I

I promise you, and this is why I'm so upset right now. I will take the hater label at any moment in time. I am 100% justified here. This is not crazy. No, it's not. This is not ridiculous. You sound like you want to drop him. And this is not hate it. It's not ridiculous at all.

I'm not I'm not saying it's ridiculous. I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm just 21 is far to fall from that. We'll see who you have above him. I just think I have a war than three spots above. So it's not like it's just nip-beying. I'm not going to lie.

If Mo has hardened in this next like tier, I'm taking a point off moment. Let's go ahead and reveal it. Boom. 25 of the little ball right under him. Remember I had con can'tipal. 24. Keontade Joy, he had the ascension. He's absurdly efficient in the paint.

He can be. There's a three-point shot now. Listen, man. Exactly. It's just fair. When it comes to high-octane young guards right now, he's at the top. the top tier of that list. 23, Desmond Bain, talked about it before.

22, Dalyland Johnson and 21, LeBron. LeBron. I'm not going to lie, it's been stuck on my mind for the last couple of minutes. Can you just re-explain why BAM was in your, on your list? Because I got outside of the 83-point game, like, he's been cheeks this year, Doc Michael. He's having a good last end of the season so far. But yeah, I didn't consider him for top 30.

I just looked, he was shooting, he's shooting 44% on the year. Yes, he completely changed. change his play style, which is why he's shooting 44% on the year. He's a lot more like jump shot oriented and mid-range oriented, three-point oriented, obviously too. But when it comes to Julius Randall now, he's shooting 31%

from three on six attempts. Stop looking at that. He kind of played that Julius Randall now. He's like this big four that takes people off the dribble from behind the arc. It's a completely different player. I will say it also is funny now because he can just talk crazy. I know. And he's like, yo man, it's hard to get 60 in this

league. What can I tell you? Why do you? Why do you waiting this long from to mention bam no oh it was because you were like um you you you snub lorri off your list oh okay okay you snub someone else i'm like are they better than bam i think when it that's very fair that's very far i did snub lorry but that's because like larry just so not top of mind and i don't know what he like his his ceiling is so hard for me to imagine when utah just automatically every single year just gives him the guillotine every single year but around a certain i run a certain time yeah so when it comes to Bam, like seeing his offensive evolution, although it hasn't been the best,

and he's like more so pissed us all off throughout the entirety of the year. Really lasts like two years. He's a good offensive player at the end of the day. He makes your offense generally better when every reasoned for it because of the spacing that he tries to provide. And that's a point of. But no, listen, listen, listen. It's the ability to have the ball in his hands and not like panic overly at all. Not too many teams of.

He can dribble. He can drive at. Yeah. Bieselke, can you spell guillotine? No. I'm not even going to drive. I didn't include Jalen Johnson on my list. Just off, bro.

What? The fuck, you didn't include Jalen Johnson? There's a lot of All-Stars in this league. He's an All-Star too. There's a lot of them. You didn't count the one All-Star. He was 31? What?

He was 31. You did that on purpose. I swear to God you did that on purpose, too. You did it on purpose. You did not go to sleep at night. It's thinking you're fine. Him and Counted George. Listen, man, somebody's got to score.

Get the fuck. Off my face. No way you didn't put Jailin on this list. You're lying to me. It's just like a good player. I don't just like him. He's fine to be in the bottom 10, but like there's a lot of good all-stars. You're lying to me, man.

A lot of good players out there. Whatever. Somebody's got to score. And it's Jaylon Johnson and Keanuthage George on their teams. Nobody else to score. Please get to. Somebody's got to do it. He hasn't been tapped in with Cedem McCollum as a late brother.

Walking people down. Nikila Alexander Walker. I'll hear his names that aren't Jalen Johnson. 25 Crownty Towns. 24, bronze Wagner, 23, Palo Bencaro, 22, conchinibble, and 21, LeBron James. Okay. Interesting tier.

All right. I lied to you. I said I moved out higher. I ended up putting it down 25. Is everyone one spot higher, actually? That's funny. I misremembered my list. I thought I had him like 20.

Okay. I like the LeBron placement. I think this tier right here, Paulo, I didn't put them on my list, obviously, because I think if you have them on your team, you're just asking yourself not to have an elite offense. Like, this is what you've seen over the last few. years of his career. Never not once in his life

has he been like an efficient shooter or decent from that range at all. You know, like... So yeah, you are the Palo-Hator, the show now. First, you're in Payton both of him. Now you said if you have him on your team, you're not going to have an elite offense. You can't. I didn't have Palo on my list either, but like, that was hate. Isn't it crazy? In combination with how

you glaced Tyler Hero earlier this? No, don't ever put the allegation against me. I never gave him. So here's that. So last year's Palo would have been, I think, around here. Terrible start to the year, obviously. Uncharacteristically bad for a young player to be shooting that poorly for that long. Then he has his comments that I had to lock in.

I focus more on the right things. Now he's been killing it as a slasher. And actually he's providing value as a guy that does more than just get to the bretho-thro line, shooting better. Everything's coming off of the fact that the driving is so much better that for these last 15 games, I like this version of Palo Bancaro. It's exactly what you want from him focusing more on the slashing. Because of that unique amount of circumstances,

the timeline of the team, his age, the strangeness of the slump, the terrible coaching he has, everything that goes into hell of uncarras performance and understanding it, I'm inclined to give him benefit for the doubt that this is pretty real. We'll see how the three-point shot

if it falls off again. He's not even shooting great in his last 15 games. It's evened out. He's still scoring. He's most efficient of his career despite the three-point shot being average. I'm inclined to believe this is real and he's going to carry this forward

and have whatever a good playoff series looks for him, don't care. But I'm inclined to believe that he'll carry this in the next year and look back on the track, of what we wanted to see, which is a slightly better version of what we had last year.

I agree. So that to me is around 23, and that's just good enough to be above Franz. Even though I do believe that Franz is like the ultimate projection man, because I do believe if we swapped him to another team,

put him in Jalen Johnson's shoes, that Franz Wagner would average 26, 7 and 7. Like I do think he has, he's the next great on-ball creator with these crazy stats that hasn't been given the opportunity. He's a third option now with Bain there.

That's fair. I do think he can be better than Palo, but Palo has proven enough in the since the All-Star game that I'm going to win. once you're going to give him the slight nod. The thing with Paolo is just, you dug yourself in such a deep hole.

You did, you did. And it's like, listen, you're doing, you're doing well, but you heard a lot of people in the way. So you have to go back. But you have to go on your apology tour. You have to show that you are operating in good days for a long time. And it's going to take more than this 15 game stretch. And we're going to have to see this for an extended amount of time.

For end, I would like to see it. And honestly, this is kind of important. Like after, they're probably, they're going to lose in the first time. They might not make the playoffs.

Right. Yeah. We'll see what happens. It's crazy. Let's get a season, like an off season. And then come back into next season. And now like,

in a complete season break and you come into next season, if this is real and it carries over, then that's something where I'm going to look at it much more substantial than an in-season change of like, you know, basically you doing the equivalent of like waking up at 2 a.m. and like, I got to get my money up and just like do this feels like right now. It's good. You got the

motivation. I need you to carry on a little. I don't understand. There's plenty of players that would have hot stretches that we wouldn't necessarily believe. But I think it's, I think what you said makes sense in terms of not wanting to overreact to a late season stretch. That's good practice to not take March basketball too seriously like we've always said, right? But I think it's also, it's easy to just say that and not apply like any context to why somebody's having a good stretch. Now, every late season explosion aren't built the same. A Jalen green late season,

an explosion in March is because he shoots 43% from three every month for some reason. March comes around, he can't miss threes. That shit is fake as hell. If you shoot really well from three for one month and never again, that's no indication of who you are as a player. When we have a guy who we've always said has the physical traits to be an amazing slasher

but sell little jumpers too much and then he's like, oh, bet you're right and start slashing more to really simplify things, that's perfectly translatable. That's not crazy at all. And especially with the slump thing, you said you've dropped a lot of bodies on the way, correct. He was mowing him down with the early season bricks. but that was not a normal like guy fell off he's like 23 years old and was shooting bricks

and like some people peek in high school so it's like yeah but that wasn't palo like he got hurt came back the team was weird we talked about how are they going to reintegrate him he clearly had that in his mind didn't want to do too much had to learn to play with bane plus was coming back from injury there were so many factors that play that while it was horrible that clearly was not going to be palo forever you know like that wasn't something where you say like if you had a james hardin where we say we saw you physically fall off and now you're shooting better. I don't believe it. That's fine. This is not that. So I just think there's enough

here that like he's just once again on the trajectory we wanted. There was a dip on the trend line, but he's back on what we expected. I like this out of you, man. This is a great character progression. Not being the palo defender. You're the palo guy now. Apparently, that's how she goes. People can't

do things in moderation. Everybody's got to take it to the next level. You suck forever. I guess bro. I just need to see more consistency. It's your man. I guess I'm a fucking palo guy. Good Lord. Yeah, LeBron 20. was that in there. Yeah.

He's playing really good now. So that's like, maybe he's gonna earn his way back up a little bit higher because he's really thriving lately as a third option. It's starting to look a little bit more bouncy, which makes sense as a 42-year-old

recovering from Seatica. It makes sense he's taking a lot of time to get back to being, you know, having a whole head of steam every night. You've been trying to boom on, folks, dog. He had two post-thrives of the last end. I'm like, again?

He's sitting on the pacers. So maybe he'll get a little bit higher as he's continuing to, like, thrive in this third option role. But you just, I can't ask him to scale up anymore, like really at all. So the few names above him, I'm like, they can probably do a little bit more fast of him.

Yeah, I agree. This is the worst three-point shooting year that he's had in like a long time. I think he's seen like 31%. But that's coming around two in this time. That's another big part. Yeah, exactly. But seeing him like shift around and all that is very encouraging. I agree with you.

He could, I don't know what his ceiling is necessarily, but at the end of the year, if we were to redo this list, mentally, I think he would be maybe like 19. Oh, he probably gets like, who do I have? 18, maybe. He could get up to, to 16 for me maybe

actually 17 is the end of the elite offensive players so maybe 17 is a real answer okay yeah tough for LeBron James tough scene but man is he killing it in the third option rule everything's one great for a Lakers fan lately all right Mo who is 2316 20 through 16 at 20

I have Darius Garland 19 James Harden 18 18 Austin 17 17 Devon Booker and 16 Tyrese Let me take off these points before you. That's what I'm saying. You said what I tell you. No, no, no, no. Time out.

I said off the get-go. I agree with where you placed him. I didn't say you were wrong with that. It's just how you went out of your way to unnecessarily hate and diminish him. See, everybody wants to be the same person. I'm like, what are you doing right now? Just because I do things differently than you? Does that make me wrong?

No. No. Not necessarily. You just didn't have to do all that. That was the thing. No. You didn't have to do all that. No.

You know? We do things. We do things. Well, now he's telling you to be a respectable hater, which I'm not aligned with. So now I'm not back on your side. If you're gonna hate, hate, come on, man.

Come on, man. That's what I'm saying. But no, it's not consistent, though. It would be a lot of your process. If folks had their eyes closed, they would think you had his ass at 30 or something like that. You had him at 21, which is like the most respectable ranking

you ever had a hearted in your life, probably. I was getting hate on for the most respectable ranking I've ever had in my life. So now he legit, didn't like your tone. No, it's not the tone. It's not the tone. I'm just like you put him at 21 and you're like talking about him like this right now. Do you put him at 19.

Yeah, I agree. But it's like it's different. It's different ways in what we talk about it. That's all it is. I'm like, what are we? Here's the thing. I put him higher.

So we got something here. Well, that's an actual name's to look at it on my list. Okay, Garland 20, Hardin 19, 18, 18 Reeves, 17 book or 16 maxi. I think Maxx is much too low. I think he's a little bit too low. Much too low is interesting. I wonder how you put him now. Yeah, there's a couple guys on here who I'm,

I'm like, I think when it comes to late game decisions, it's just like, this is just another tier, just like stardom. Just like a good player here. Yeah, exactly. It's tough. Maxi, I was flipping him around the most. It's him and another player who I was flipping around the most. And at the end of day, I'm just like, fuck it, bro.

Put him alongside Booker. His ability to play like a million minutes a night is so valuable. Yeah. He just never leaves the court and maintains efficiency at that crazy volume. And not just volume of shots, volume of running around. While still being a good defender, expanding energy there, I think he leads to Leagues Steelers right now. And like, he's a good defender.

He's fast and uses that space to close out a shooter as well. He applies so much effort and energy to all parts of the game and doesn't get gassed. Reeves right now is gassed. This late in the season, he's been playing a lot of minutes. That guy needs to get in the lab too, like Tyler Hero and get his body up because Reeves can't handle the Cuis at this point. And you're seeing him lose his legs, lose his ability to give all that effort. That will never be Tyrese maxi.

His conditioning is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. What separates it from me right now, as he speak, is just like late game offense and how the process is right now. But I assume next year that's going to be a lot better. been much better than it was previous years. But next year is like the real gap between like, okay, like when it's like what, the last minute of the game, I want someone to slow it down, want someone to find the open guy if

necessarily or needed, or this guy's just like signature. You know he's going to knock some shit down at the end of the game. Yeah, I only am a little bit higher. So I respect 16. Anything from really like 13 through 19 are really tight to me. Like this is, we're all looking at straight like some of the best offensive players in the world. The league is crazy.

Donovan. At 20, I have Jalen Johnson, 19. I have Austin Reeves. 18. I have Jamal Murray. 17, Devin Booker. 16, Jalen Brown. Wow.

16, Jalen Brown. Jailen Brown. Shout out to you. 18. Jamal Murray. Your next tier is going to be interesting. Wow. I had Jamal Murray way higher.

So how you feel about Maxi? I have the same, like, the inverted thought process about Jamal Murray. 53 last night. Dude, Jamal Murray is the most efficient players in league right now. 53 last night. It's crazy what he's on. He's fantastic.

But I also think kind of in that same way of like as we move up, at least on my list, it's also a rising list of like, can you be number one guy? Like can you really, really scale up and do all that stuff? And obviously like this season more so than other seasons because Yokic has had injuries. We've seen Jamal Murray, like number one option doing all that stuff. I think at this point I just trust a lot of the other guys a little bit more than Jamal. but he's he's been awesome Jaylen Brown stuff also

great year the guys above them are just yo the league is super deep and there's just so many players above him so you put Jayland Johnson number 20 man that's amazing he's nice listen he saw Jalen Johnson put up like 30 points and like some crazy style I know whatever he was like listen man

we have to have an expansion there's too much talent league right now Jalen Johnson can get 30 oh man no we have expenses James Johnson's getting 35 he's taking that Seattle team for everything it's worth but he he like on that side of the ball he's he's awesome real mind we got to talk about all these guards because you guys are so interesting

to parse it's kind of a Devin booker conversation if you had 20 have Darius Garland 19 Austin Reeves 16 no 18 Devin Booker 17 Jewel and Bede 16 James Harden What don't do with Embed is he higher? I put him a little bit higher Okay yeah he could have been higher I just don't know what to do with the fact that like even in like any even game you don't know how much you can rely on him but like when he's at his best

he's fucking amazing still but even when he's at his best he doesn't he's like doesn't move quite as much anymore so he wasn't drawing quite as much attention can still be an amazing isolation score we'll get his buckets so look at a good rebounder

everything's a little bit slower and a little bit less opening up things for others that like I legitimately do not know what to do with 2026 to Wendbeed dude he's so crazy he came back after a month of not playing basketball and just dropped 35 6 and 7 he will always be a bucket as long as he lives.

Yeah. I feel bad though because it genuinely looks like it hurts for him to play basketball now. Yeah, and then you look up

up he has 30 painful buckets. Exactly. Like, what? 30 painful buckets. Knees on fire, 42 on the board. Out of the mud buckets.

Out of mud for sure. Through the muscle, it doesn't matter. He's going, bone on bone in his knees. He's going to give somebody buckets. Yeah. So I legit don't know to do with that

because some nights he's the fifth best best offensive player in the world. Some nights is 25th. I don't feel confident 16 at all. I mean, 17, you can't put him higher,

go for it. When is Devin Bukker and become a good shooter again? Oh, don't worry about that, man. I'm super worried about it. You're asking too many questions? Do you remember two years ago?

I remember for his last year, Devin Book had a really rough end of the season and I was telling you, like, a lot of sunspans on Twitter, like, damn, my guy's kind of washed. He just hasn't been as efficient since that moment. Two straight years now, the worst efficiency of his prime.

Yeah. That's like his main thing coming out of college, too, was like a shooting ability. Yeah, and he shot 32 or 33% in the last two years. Yeah. It just floats sometimes, isn't quite as aggressive. and maybe that's what the team needs from him. They don't ask him to go out there

and be a helio guy or anything. So the team construction is part of it. The team has crumbled around him and maybe he just needs to be in a better environment. But like, he's really like being carried by reputation right now of what we knew he could do when with the good team for years ago

when I'm wondering if maybe we're getting to the point where just age is coming. I'm just, how old is he? Not that old. He's going to be 30 next year. But he's not that old, right? But he's played a lot of minutes

playing since he was young. And I just don't know if it's a coincidence or not that we're seeing things kind of slow down. Not everybody has the same, you know, body arc. Yeah, not everyone is supposed to last to like 37. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes it happens.

And he's been playing for a long time. And not to say he's like completely fallen off or anything, but some guys peak at 26 physically and things change. Especially guys that aren't one of the best players in the world. The best players in the world, like they, you know, they are the most talented players. They kind of adapt and overcome and have primes deep. Not every mid-level All-Star does it.

It's tough because I want to give, I want to give, like, some of the most benefit of the doubt possible. And it is it is a couple years like you said. And anytime that we have these conversations, especially for guys that I like, I'm like, you know what, next year, if it doesn't happen, then we, then we can finally cut it off. And that's kind of where I'm at with with Booker. And I think, I think also this is probably a fine placement because even whenever book was at like his peak, there were some like that the year 21, 22 finishes. fourth and MVP voting NBA first. Last minute fourth though. Yeah. Fourth, fourth and MVP voting, first team, all NBA. Like that was peak Devin Booker, 27 points a game. Since then, since the

finals run, it's been like, okay, you're still doing what you do, but this entire Devin Booker Eathos just feels slightly worse. And I do think that for people in this tier, the team construction does matter a lot. Yeah. And if we were talking about four years ago, which is crazy, been that long, Devin Booker would be at like 11. And for those guys, team construction doesn't matter as much. He's just at that point where he just needs a little bit more help. Yeah, I agreed. I think he's just, at one point we thought he was at the 10th best player in the world.

And he was. He probably was at one point. Sure. Like, it wasn't crazy. That was four years ago. Yeah, you know, it wasn't crazy or anything. But like when you see no longer having Chris Paul next to him, which is a huge benefit for a shooting guard like him, that's amazing off ball, you say, oh, okay, so part of

that big leap was having the most complimentary point guard I could imagine next to you. Like, they didn't get talked about enough because Chris Paul was in this like era where he was washed and got unwashed and was just kind of like not treated like vintage Chris Paul or anything and probably got overlooked a little bit in terms of his impacted teams. Outside of people saying like, you know, he goes to a team, they make the playoffs. It was under-talked about just how much he helped Evan Booker and just how insanely complimentary of a duo they were. And I think maybe we're at the point now where we see what it looks like without that.

And it's like, okay, you're a little bit more closer to these type of names, to a Garland, to a Reeves, to a late stage James Hardin, than to a DeMitch who you were better than at that point. Or to a Anthony Edwards, who you were better than at that point, or whoever else is up there now. Kate Cunningham. Like, it's just a different tier of players that can assert themselves a little bit more in a game. Shout out Rees, man. Never thought he'd be in these convo. That's very true. Yeah.

I remember, I think towards the beginning of the year or close to the middle of the year, we had our top 30 players rank or top four. 40 player rankings. Yeah. And I think I remember putting Reeves just slightly above higher than Devin Booker. Since then, of course, things changed. Rees got hurt, he cooled down and all that. And Devin Bookers pretty much maintained his status or whatever, which Nitson, maybe just like a hint higher.

But overall, like, Rees' Ascension is insane. And I feel like every single year, you know, we're always looking for that next guy to take a leap. And I think Austin Reeves genuinely did take that leap. It's just tough shit to see because Luke is on that team. And no matter what type of leap. you like Austin Reeves take, it's always going to be overshadowed no matter what.

I do still kind of think that if Reeves was in Booker's shoes that he performed just as good or better. But because everything you said, Booker's just so proven and safe that I gave him that nod. I don't feel confident in that at all. Yeah. Like going to next year, like let's say if Austin Reeves leaves a free agency, fucking nightmare. Some weird shit. Nightmare. But let's say he leaves

and goes to the bucks or whatever after the trade Giannis, whatever dream scenario you have of him being his own guy and his own team. I think we would think about him better than Devin Booker. Oh yeah. He's averaging like a smooth like I think he average like 26 and 7 game like he's that type of score now he's that he's just like weirdly barrels his way

into the rim every single time he's gonna get those weird free throw calls he's gonna go ahead and find whatever random big that he might end up playing with in the future he's gonna have great great chemistry with those guys he's just he's special he's really good an amazing passer probably better past than Booker who's also a good passer yeah but that being said it doesn't matter because Austin Reeves will always be with Luca Donchis until he retires he's never leaving the Lakers

So we'll never know what he can do on his own. Yeah. Garland. We agree? Yeah. Yeah, he's firmly back. His numbers are crazy since he's been with the clip. Yeah, it's like five games.

He's been crazy. Just the level of shooting he brings on and offball with playmaking, being an incredible interior passer off the dribble three point shooter and off ball three point shooter is just an insanely valuable archetypal player to be. In fact the game in all those ways to where you don't even have to touch the ball. You can let Kauai cook and you're still making a little. everybody better in immensely valuable player even if he's never a like one a or anything in the 11 games that he's played with the clippers shooting 50% from the field 50% from the which is just

insane it's unsustainable but when it comes to like going back to what you said earlier like the prime regular all-star daress who aren't that we've kind of missed over the last few years since he's been with donovan mitchell he's 100% fully back and he's that normal guy like i'm happy with him and i think over the next few years he'll probably like maintain around this level if he stays healthy heavy on that yeah really really really He's versus Garland. I mean, an interesting combo. I feel like I maybe think that Garland's better at his peak, offensively.

But I don't know about that. Because Reeves is a better score. Garland's a better passer. They're both good at the other thing. I have no clue. Like, who would you rather have for the next five years offensively? Offensive. Maybe Reeves, because I think...

No injury? No injury. Yeah. Everyone at their best. Garland. It's tough. Garland gives... Two split answers.

Yeah, I think I'd take Garland, no injury. That's tough. Just offensively. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's tough. I don't think he can carry the scoring burden that Rees is capable of.

I think Reeves can legitimately average 27. But Garland's a much better passer. And probably a better off ball player, even though Reeves isn't bad offball. Oh, most definitely, yeah. He's an elite off ball player, actually. You're right. He's like one of the best in the league. Yeah.

I do like this tour out of everyone. So I'm giving out three points. All right. There you go. Nice. All right. All right. Oh, I got multiple points.

Damn, we're just throwing them out. So you give a point. You get a point. Let's go. Let's go. He's fucking point, point, point, point. Let's go. He just wanted to big the numbers up so it didn't look like he ended this with no numbers.

Yeah. I'm crying. Yeah. He said, yeah, he had to catch up. We in the top 15 now. He said, damn, why does Isaac have zero points? Wow, bro. All right.

All right. That's what are you doing. He's like pity for him. This are his own points. We should take a stand against us, honestly. It's inflation. He's not stymies. For himself.

15 through 11. At 15, I have Jamal Murray, 14 Tyrese maxi, 13 Jalen Brown, 12 Kevin Durant, 11 Victor Wimbonyama, who I spent so long trying to decide how high I could bring him. I could have put him as high as I think like seven or eight if I wanted to really glaze. I ended up going 11. But I wanted to glaze so bad. Okay. I think Wemby's in this tier for me as well.

I have Wembe just like a smidge higher, but I understand it. It was so interesting for me to like figure out. where to place Brown because he has like if you want to say he's like top 10 offensively the season no one's going to look at you crazy yes I will I'm going to look at him crazy I'll look at you ridiculous if you tell me he's a better offensive player than Victor

Wominiamma minus points I don't know just strictly off its I think I'm doing a lot putting him next to Kevin around I think I'm giving him plenty of plenty of praise dude his rim scoring you get another four not dude Jalen Brown's drum scoring is crazy it's crazy this year

and I think that's a separator for me I don't know if I put him slightly above Kevin to Rand. Yes, I did barely. But I think that was like the eventual separator for me. Seeing of course, Katie's KD, bro, like he can go ahead and like shoot 45, 50% from the mid range literally until he's 80 years old. He's so crazy. But seeing Jalen Brown's ascension and also on top of that too, how he's like the rim scoring is just like, it's wildly impressive. That's a separate. He's even crazy. He's that he's taking 10% less shots of the room they did last year. He's taking a lot more mid-range shots from last year. It's crazy compared to KD. That's, that's, that's a time. Okay. I mean, the volume isn't that crazy compared

to KD. He's like, he's kind of doing what the reality of being a wing score like that is. If they take away the rim, you should a lot of mid-range jumpers. And you shouldn't really well. So that's why he's this high. But I think he's going through the same exact reality that KD does that you just can't get to the rim quite as often when you get covered in that type of way as a wing as a wing. But he's very efficient at the rim, not take it away from him. That's why he's this high because he's really, really good offball, very good driver, potentially the best offball scoring wing in the NBA. The fact that you can have this guy that, let's say your point guard is dribbling, say Tatum is dribbling. And you can swing into this.

guy to attack a, like we just saw last night in the game, Isaiah Joe, Jared McCain, a guy that has zero chance of defending a Jalen Brown close out with how strong he is. That is such a cheat code when you have the spacing the Celtics do that him is an awful player is why I have him this eye. Take away another point for me. I don't want him. I'm crying. These are dirty points.

You sacrifice some points. Yeah, he's really good. He's not the, I think he's a. I think his ability to serve as a one option is clearly done it this year and it's impressive. A big part of that to me is the offense that Joe Mazula has built that doesn't really need him to be a great playmaker. They really, really thrive on the scoring. He does in isolation with the complimentary off-ball movement they do to create shots for others. The amazing split actions they draw, all the dribble handoffs, everything that they do to facilitate the playmaking when they don't have Tatum there to do it himself.

Great. And I think that really enables Brown to be a like focus on scoring. You still have the usage to get your five assists and whatever. but I've never thought he's a like impressive playmaker like even I think even Katie's his player maker still yeah that's damn near that's damner talk for me yeah so that that's why he can't be like top 10 to me

I don't think he impacts others quite as much but his ability to play off of others is incredible I agree it's like on top of that too something I don't remember if you you mentioned it but the cutting too is Jurassic as well and that's just something like that's just of course Katie Katie is like the easiest offense ever but when it comes to just like placement

and like around all different types of formats of teams with Brown is just so crazy. Like he can play with literally anybody and like not have a hard way to figure things out. And of course, Katie can do the exact same thing. He's like literally the perfect player for that. But for this specific year and considering like, you know,

like the, I think when it comes to the pin, you're underselling how drastic of a difference it is. Like Katie, he really don't begin to the rim compared to someone like Dylan Brown. Like Dylan Brown shooting damn near 70% at the rim this year, you know, on like five attempts per game compared to Katie who's taking like maybe two shots a game in the restricted area.

So it's like a massive difference, actually. So I think that at the end of the day is the old is the slight separator for me. But I understand it. Jamlin Brown just gave me so much out for no reason. Yeah, I think the on ball stuff is that what Kay Brown doesn't do with the room a whole lot. Off ball is what we're talking about. He gets the rim a lot, runs in position, cuts like you said. And that is very valuable.

I agree. But in terms of the like isolation creation, that's where Katie doesn't do the offball stuff as much as him. Clearly. And that is a value point for Janlon Brown. That makes up for Kevin Grant shooting. That's why they're right next. to each other to me. But I don't think on ball,

Jaylon Brown is like a crazy run pressure guy. And even if he was, it's not turning into like advanced playmaking or anything, which is what you want for that room pressure. That's the difference. So him just like taking shots to the rim alone without being a great playmaker and without those being on ball

aren't enough for me to put him above him with that itself. But I do agree they're right next to each other. They're right next to each other. Yeah, I do agree. It's fine to have him right by each other. Yeah. Fair.

So Monmarie 15. I would assume you had to have had him a little bit higher. Really? Silver Maxie? maybe just over Maxi. I realized I think I was like a little bit glazing. Not even a little bit. Kind of a lot glazing Jamal Marieb.

Bro, he's so fucking good. The shot making season that he's having this year is ridiculous. It's like it's something special that we haven't seen from too many players of his caliber and his shot diet. It's crazy, man. It's crazy as efficiency all around the floor. You're really good. Him versus Maxie is so tough to me. I think it's fair to him above Maxie.

In fact, maybe I do believe that. I went back and forth. And I can be sold on him over Jalen Brown if you want to hate a little bit on J.B. You know, you don't got to tell me twice. You're at zero. I didn't do it, but. That was unworthy.

That was great. He didn't do it, though. I didn't do it. I don't know. I'm just throwing out options in the multiverse that I didn't do. Petition for you. You need your point back from it. He's the one that was glazing, not me.

I didn't do it. Okay. At 15, I have Embeded 14, Durant. 13, Jeline Brown. 12, I have Cade and 11 I have Jim Brunson. Cade and Brunson outside the top 10 is crazy to me. I can't wait to see who you have up there.

I kind of spoiled it. I said I was kind of glazing Jamal Murray this year. Oh, good Lord. Dude, his efficiency is not even close compared to these two right now. Obviously, like, we've had Cade discussions before. And when it comes to Brunton as well, again, I've been saying it over the last few, over the last few episodes.

No one's really talking about how he's like literally slowing down. He's having not the worst efficiency career. His efficiency is perfectly fine. It's actually good. very great for someone with the kind of shots that he takes. But he's slowing down. It's like slightly noticeable. But even though he's slowing down, he's still like, he's still ridiculous.

I think he's shooting like 50% from the mid-range line or whatever from the range area. The ways that he gets is that he gets his buckets and seeing how like he's, the playmaking isn't the best, but it's better. It's not what it was a couple of years ago. He's still top of him for me. Yeah. He should be 1% worse than 3% worse at the rim. Yeah. A little bit.

And the volume of the rim is down 5%. So it's me a little, it's meaningful. You notice it's something to notice. But yeah, Jalen Brunson gets better for the doubt until he has a playoff series that's not fucking outlandish. Now that's fair. Like he's just, he's truly like reverse-hearted. Yeah, literally. I'm going to keep him tops in until he shows me he's not got amongst men come playoff time.

For the regular season, I probably would agree with you like he'd be in this tier. But every single time we touch the playoff court, he gives 40 to everybody and it's crazy and it defies logic and everything we expected from him. And I'm just going to continue to glaze him until he does otherwise. Listen, all what you're saying makes sense. I'm not going off of sense or logic. You're dumb if you think so. It's Nix tax, it's clear as day. I always have to think about Bruns and whoever and everybody who reps that.

Have to. Understandable. I am curious about Isaac's Cade placement after the conversation we had the other day. Well, that was off camera. Me thinking Kate isn't as good as Luca. Isn't exactly Kate hate. Nah, he was hating hard. Nah, the way you were talking about him, you were saying like.

That's because Donovan was on. It was fucking giving it to him. It was crazy. Donovan was giving it to Kate. All I said was that. Yeah, wait, what do you say? Kate had his best day. Touched Luca had his worst.

Yeah. The worst stretch of Lucas' career is better than Kate has ever been in his life. Nah, that's crazy. You see what I'm saying? There will be no point in their crimes where Luca could be in a shooting sum for a month.

There will be no point in either individual players' primes that Luca will ever be worse than Kate Cunningham is this year. Is this not crazy? No, Oh, and Luca Donchish. 10 points for that. It's Luca Dodgers.

Are you fucking kidding me? This is hate. And that's why I'm curious to see the placement because Cade, at this point better be at 10. Luca better be at two. But we'll see. Guess who's not far off. Beesles. Give a point.

Yeah, I think Kate is extremely good, but Luca is in a different stratosphere. It's one of the best offensive players to ever fucking live. And to suggest Kate Cunningham is even comparable as an offensive player or player in general to Luca is completely overreacting to a bad month of shooting from Luca. It's completely doing too much and applauding how much you think Kid Cunningham is tough. That's pure emotion. It's completely illogical in every fucking way.

However. Have you considered? I truly I truly do think that in this conversation like you pass over it but you don't give it enough creditors. bro, he just has too much motion.

Like, I really just don't think. What? I think, I think, I think that you're just understanding, like, the stuff that Kate is doing this year. What does that mean? He's sexy. He has too much motion. The stuff that Kate is doing.

He fits too hard. You don't talk about basketball. The stuff Kate is doing this year is legitimately. And when we were having this conversation, it was in the context of, like, MVP voting. So it's not like, and it's not like a year to year. type of ranking right where that's always different it was specifically this year i think that kd does just have an argument to be third on the ballot because of crying man because of where the pistons are because of the things that that they've done as a team and because of where they've been

able to go and i think obviously largely is because of the offense that kate has has played this year obviously along with the defense but that was that was the overall point i'm gonna pivot i'm gonna join club 77 the fanatical european fans on twitter that make luka like like they do this Q and on shit to praise Luca. I'm going to join them because of how ridiculous people are with Lucaslander this year. You're going to make me join the craziest motherfuckers on the internet. Sorry, man. I will say, also caveat on this list.

Cade is over here at 12 as an offensive player. He's the worst score here, but the best passer here in playmaker overall, which is why he knows that at 12. Yeah, same logic. I have Brunson right above Cade, just a few spots higher. I'm with you. The playmaking of Cade is outrageous. He's one of the best playmakers in the league. Yeah.

But he'll seemingly never be like an efficient high-level score. who'll always be the like Jason Kidd of this era where he's an incredible player amazing playmaker good defender good score for being a lead option but never touching my like top tier scoring guards of league or anything yeah yeah I agree I agree which is not a not a bad fate to have as an NBA player good being proto modern Jason kid is pretty damn good it's good man Luca is like his Magic Johnson what's Jason kids like career high points well different era different era I think today Jason Kitt would average 24 or whatever let me see okay

that's crazy. Jason could average like 18 or 19 at his best. You don't think you get average 24 with space in today? Jason

kid's career high is 43. What's the only like point for game? Oh, for a season.

Yeah. 24. What? What? What? What? What? I thought we

get about one single a game. I'm like, I mean, Jason could probably go off one time. That's funny.

19 or 18. 17. is as high. 18. That's all 23 today, maybe a little bit lower. I don't know. It's hard to say with spacing

and the way people play today. He'd also be encouraged to shoot more from younger age. So everybody would average more with this type of guard today. I don't know what the line is. That season he shot 34% from from three,

probably what he would be normally. By what Kate's doing this year. And so it's like, it is. Yeah, he would, 19 and 9. So it's, it's, it's whatever. And that's when they were true point guards. They weren't running high pick and roll

100 times a game, slashing trying to be a score to set up the playmaking. Yeah. I think, yeah, Cade's averaging 24 and a half. I think Jason I could certainly do that.

Yeah. I don't think Cade's peak yet, but, okay. Oh, I'm sure he hasn't. No, God, no, he hasn't. Do I think his peak will touch Luca Donchitz? No, but I do think he'll hit in the level. Can he get, like, can he peak higher than Anthony Edwards, maybe? But Luke is a different tier to get into.

And also, Ann hasn't peaked yet, so that's the other thing. Yeah, that was a lot. You just said right there. What I'm talking about current day, Ann. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ant might peek at my fucking Kobe Bryant. I don't know. Yeah.

But today's aunt, I think Kate can be better than that. All right. All right. At 15 we have Embed 14 we have wembe 13 we have bronze 12 we have KD and 11 we have maxi Yo you're doing a glazer for me man now I would like to say I would like to say I would like to say man let's say both hands and feet this too disgusting he's giving them all limbs oh my god using his ear fuck crazy stuff fuck 13 wow he's pulling in opposition.

Bind Wemby? Fuck, man. No, this is nuts. This is a lot. He's not even doing tricks on it. He's doing fucking four-dimensional math on it. He's breaking the loss of physics on it. Say,

word the fuck, type shit. What the fuck, 13? Oh my God. He's discovering interdimensional travel on it. He got that you done? Wow, man. This whole thing works because

of discourse and the sharing of thoughts. In the moment, in the moment we demonize somebody for bringing their thoughts to the forum, this whole thing is cooked. He defended democracy. So we're here to work or not, he's not to defend democracy. Mind you, I have not said one thing.

Yes. I haven't said one thing. They've done more in their theatrics in the last minute and a half than just, just to say, sit down and listen what the opposite is to say. I ain't go lie. And it might not even be opposition. All I was going to

say was 12 through 15 in this specific list, complete suspension. And by suspension, I mean, it's like an elevator. I can cut the I can cut the string. That thing could drop all the way down. I'm putting you here. I'm putting you here right now just because

you are Kevin Durant, you are you are LeBron. And I think for for LeBron, even though that he has moved into this like third option role, listen, there's nobody better in the history of the league to be a third option role. And that's what we're talking about right now. Is that not true? I love that shit.

I love that shit, man. 2026 LeBron and took the greatest third option of all time. So I love that shit, man. And you're saying, is the name LeBron James the best third option? Yeah, but that is irrelevant. This is not the best third option. Nobody is no, to be, to be a number three options specifically to to Luca and and, and Austin Reeves.

like LeBron James is doing all the things that anybody has ever said of any third option which is, yo, can you go be Super Soldier Draymond Green except he's the smartest player to ever play the game? His three-point shot is coming back around. Yo, he knows his angles, man. He's catching lobs right now.

Man. All I'm saying is in a playoff series, in a playoff series, it would behoove you to have LeBron on the floor in some capacity. And I think that that still means something. and I think that that still means a lot to have him on the floor. Now, a lot of this is carried by the basketball IQ by the experience.

Obviously, he's not LeBron James, the MVP candidate year in and year out. Can I see LeBron drop into 17 if he has to score 25 and then the next game he can't score two? Yes, I get that. That's what I said. It's a suspension. I can cut you off. The same thing with KD. KD, if I throw a double at you, are you going to be good?

I don't know, but you're Kevin Durant. You've done it before and be the same thing. It's really wild that your knees. You think Wembe is in the suspension tier though? Yeah, why is Wembe there? Man, say Wart to folk. LeBron. Say Wart to Foke.

La Bronte de Wobie. Say you're a fuck. You're an idiot. You're a dude. No, what do you can't? You're a devil. You're a pure dummy. Oh my God.

Pure dummy. I think so. Say it. Wemby. No. I'm not going to say it. Why the deduction, man. He ain't standing in all business.

No, hold on. He's not putting on. But with Wemby, with Wemby also like, Wembe can suspend in the other direction. He can go up. Just because I haven't seen Wemby, I haven't seen Wemby in a playoff series. And there are,

there are things, especially in the half court where all the other guys and and like LeBron can still do this to an extent, KD, obviously, if we get into the half court and we start getting into into situations, the consistency of your, of your go-to scoring of being able to just like, hey, go get a bucket here, that's still not 100% with Wembe. Sure. And I want to see that a little bit more polished in a way that even to this day, there's five minutes left you say, Bronco, I, like, we need something. LeBron can still, he can still do that

in a, in a certain capacity and in the same realm as Wemby. As somebody who's had to watch every second of LeBron's career this year, I'm going to gently put my hand on your shoulder and say those days are done. I'm not, I'm not saying, I'm not saying every, I'm not saying every single possession. I'm not saying for five minutes straight, like the, the first play that we're going to run is, it's clear out Bronon there. But Wemby still has a lot to show for that, for the half court scoring where everybody else on this list and everybody that's higher than him I really do value that and he just hasn't shown that.

That's fair. Wemby's just like the best offball player in the league now. That's fair. The role gravity of Wemby and the attention he draws. He makes his offense. The on-off swings are as good as any of the top creators because the amount of stuff he opens up when he runs up pick and roll and his bodies fly to him

and the spacing provides a three-point shooter. He makes everybody's life a million times better. It's like the Curry conversation where we talk about even when he's not scoring. Offball, he draws so much attention. He makes everybody better. when he's entering those conversations as a lot threat, a role threat, a spacer,

all of that with still being a good on ball score, not amazing yet, which you're right about for sure, that he aggregates enough value that to me, LeBron's not a conversation at all. But, Katie's a conversation. I have them run next to each other, so I understand that part. LeBron, I just can't do it anymore.

Yeah, I think this tier is just like, when it comes to having players of this tier, these are guys who you expect to really, like, really dictate how the last few minutes of the game is going to go and do like super, superstar like things and right now that's just like not lebron's bag or job anymore and you don't want it to be clearly at all based off of where he's at athletically and how much energy it takes for him

to try to get past by his but he won't do it he will try though the scale up thing is really hard now like the way he's slow down on ball him trying to blow by people was so tough that he just like does he slow dribbles back and forth because he can't turn the corner on guys yeah it's tough to see when he has to try to blow by a guy yeah but what he can do though he'll cut like very precisely well he will go ahead and get you like an offensive rebound clutch met last minute just a couple of games ago we saw him dive deep on dive on the floor which you never seen him do before in his life that right there is like of course like star quality super serum draymond type stuff but that's not superstar stuff right there though yes aaron

it's like are you better than erin gordon now offensively probably are you better than whenby that's a different conversation but that's what i'm saying a lot of it obviously is driven by by the IQ by the by the experience so i do think that the brulman is time to ikew is way into a dunk Listen, man. He going to have to. He's going to have to. But he can... You're going to get a post-fade.

You're going to like it? All the things that everybody else does. And, like, honestly, I want to drop Durant even below LeBron. Dude, did you see that game last night, bro? That's crazy. If we want to slam the KD, I will... That's crazy. I will not stand in your way.

There's been, there's been so many moments this year where the Rockets have completely fallen apart, downstretches, of games. And obviously, like, you can't just be like, Katie, go score 10 times in a row and save the team. I understand, like, that can't necessarily happen. But for this Rocket's team, like, Katie, he does have to have to be better. Some of, like, he's had very high moments, but some of the times whenever it's been bad, you've seen that age really start to get there.

You've seen, as we've talked about for honestly, like three years now, you've seen the lack of room pressure. Some of the middies, he's getting to his spot. It looks like KD, the shots just not going in sometimes. The playmaking, I don't think is always amazing, doing stuff off the dribble. We've seen what happened with the Lakers did, forcing KD to be like the main playmaker on that team, which also is a big indictment of the Rockets in their current roster situation. Yeah.

But still, also, all these other guys can handle the ball and they really, really took you out the game. There's just been a lot of moments with KD this year. with. I don't know right now if bringing in KD and like trading all of these pieces for them, which the Rockets still would have done. I'm saying for another team. Oh yeah, yeah. Well, no, no. There's probably going to be another team. I don't know if that's worth it.

You mentioned the part that's the entire thing to me is that it's an indictment on the Rockets infrastructure. They have no point guards. Kevin Durett is not a point guard. He never was. He damn sure shouldn't be at 37 years old when he's as slow he's ever been. It is the worst. It's literally I think the worst team environment I could imagine for Kevin Durant being asked to go be the pick and roll guy to go handle these double teams

and be the guy set the table for everybody. That is truly worst case scenario. He needs to be a play finisher. He needs to be a wing score. If he was in Jalen Brown shoes and could play next to all those guards and that amazing system that gets people going downhill all the time with that spacing, he would be having a much better year and we'd be talking about Katie having goat level longevity

because he'd be averaging 29 on incredible efficiency. But no, he stuck playing next to four non-shooters and a bunch of guys that just want to fucking butt heads with him. It is the by far, maybe in the league. He might be putting up better numbers for the Sacramento Kings than the Houston Rockets. And I don't even know if that's a joke.

That's what's crazy. Is the Rockets that bad? Maybe not the Kings. But like, there's a few small amount of teams that have an infrastructure so poorly set up for Katie. He'd get quadruple team. Don't mean. Devin Carter got him. Yeah. Yeah.

Devin Carter mentioned. But he just, he needs to play with point guards. so badly that like yeah he's really bad at that he shouldn't be doing that so like i don't even like want to ding him for that it would be like if webby started running pick and rolls and get bliss like why did webby suck so bad at picking rolls why aren't the point guards doing it i feel similarly with kevin durant yeah i agree i agree team construction is so ass i said this double gets spooky i love this because what's going to happen is the sending doubles at katie it's going to end up being like rudigobank can't can't play defense all it's going to be fantastic this this is the new jaylon

Brown don't got a left hand, bro. Yeah. And I'm so here for it. And Noah's going to happen in the playoffs, too. He's going to get doubled. Of course he is. Like, he always does. And nobody's going to do anything about it.

So they're going to keep doing it. That's sick. I meant Thompson saved me. Top 10. Donovan, who you got from 10 through 6? At 10, I have Kade. Nine, I have Jalen Brunson. Eight, D. Mitch.

Seven, Steph Curry. Six, Anthony Edwards. Okay. Perspectable. Okay. Curry's hard at rank now. Got hurt, obviously. I think Curry's still, like.

maybe top five. Yeah. The only reason I didn't put him top five was because of the injury. Yeah. That's very fair. But when it comes to like curry and like what he is when he's healthy this season when he was able to show it,

he's been having out of the last like three years, this has been like the best year. And like of course like when it comes to how we change basketball yada yada yada. Like all that shit don't need to be said. Like we know exactly who he is. But if you just want to talk about this single year compared to everyone else and bro,

he's not playing again this year. Every single night I want to watch Warriors basketball I want to see Steph Curry play And I see he's not playing I'm just like a pods lead point guard I'm not watching at all They're there they're tough watch Yeah yeah

That's what annoys me is like This is like Kobe's later years But healthy or healthier And it's just being wasted And worse because at least At least when Kobe came back You still had like You were starting to get some of like the baby Laker picks

Yeah You have none of that here Damn It should have been it should have been Kaminga It should have been B-Pods. Moses Moody just got injured too. That was tough.

Yeah, that was awful. And so now all of these young pieces that you had, you don't even have the opportunity to draft young players because you traded these first-off picks for Jimmy Butler. He tore his ACL. It's just a terrible situation. So it's tough. But I do think that in a competent team construction,

Steph is still top five and you can still lead very, very good offense. Okay. Okay, let's move all of ours because we're all going to have similar names, I think. 10 have Donovan Mitchell 9 Kunningham 8 Jalen Brunson 7 Anthony Edwards 6 Kauai Leonard

Okay Okay I like this I like this tier Wow man Kauai 6 he couldn't be top 5 A lot good players Don't know Put him above Curry

Go for it I guess When it comes to efficiency and shit Right it's tough Tough though Stefan Curry is right above him That's a tough conversation But also Kauai this year I mean I'm not arguing against you

But it's like man No you're telling me I'm an idiot You're arguing against me You're a nematode You're a nitwit You're an imbecile At number 10 I have Jamal Murray

I told you I was overly glazing this year But historic shooting year But numbers only parallel To literally Steph Curry For this singular season I'm doing it Will he do it again? No

You're lucky he discovered nuclear fission on it Because otherwise you'd be the biggest blazer Listen man I was gonna say something crazy But for Jamal Murray this singular year I'll remember for the rest of my fucking life bro. I've never seen a shooting season like this from someone that's like

not Steph Curry, bro. It's ridiculous. And it surely won't be forgotten, bro. He's having 25 and 7 this year had multiple 50 point games. Like he's he's otherworldly for the singular year and he deserves it. Won't be for a guy. Otherworldly. Yes. Man, some Jupiter. Now, 9, Wembe,

8, Donovan Mitchell, 7, Anthony Edwards and 6. I just had to throw you on us in there. I didn't comment the thing among all these. You guys are digging people for like loss season to injuries more than I am. I'm like, Janice and Curry are still Janice and Curry. So I put them both in the top five. I understand it if you're doing more indexing for this season. But I'm like, I know who they are. Now, for Janus, I didn't necessarily do that. I just think that offensively people are just like,

Yonis is actually the same exact thing for Yonis, but I think other guys have been just genuinely better offensively. And like, when it comes to this level of like top five, in order to be top five, you damn to have to be like, no one can take you on this team, no matter what type of, no number of what type of situation or team construction you're in. Like you're going to walk into trot into a top five offensive situation. Yeah. You're a child. Wait, what happened?

You'll see him in the replay. Just do the child, bro. Actually, let me, I need to switch because I'm thinking about this now. What do you think? I need to switch Brunson and DeMitch. No, why? Brunson is better. Yeah, he's just better.

Again, he goes to the playoffs and he turns into Kobe every time. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. My bad cap. I shouldn't have did that. That's on for the five minutes just thinking about that.

Fucked up in the club. By the disrespecting Jalen Brunson. So boing, boy. I shouldn't have did that. Yeah, that's going to be a good debate. I mean, this season, regular season production-wise, D-Mitch has better numbers. I think playoffs, we just know that Brunson has earned the right

to be considered better than him, I think. But I can respect putting D-Mitch above him. It's not crazy. That's fair. So we all have Anthony Edwards in this tier. It's just not quite ready. for top five. The guys in top five are just crazy. Yeah. But it's no. He's on the way, obviously.

Is it the playmaking? It's just the guys above him are superheroes. I don't even really have anything to criticize Anthony Edwards for it. His fans are calling him fat. Oh, yeah. They said he was on Popeyes or something like that. He said he had Popeye's relapse. Poppies relapse. Apparently he's been out of shape of the course of the season and this given his best game. I didn't notice the fatness, but apparently this fans do

and I trust them. The answer is hard because, especially coming off of of last year, like him and his team spent the whole offseason, calling Shay fraudulent saying this is a battle, this is one and two. Colin Luke of Fat. They called everybody.

They called out everybody at the top and said, we're better, you guys are fraud, this and that, this and that. And this year, Shea has leveled up to be this, like, all-time player and has followed up one of the best guard seasons that we've seen with another all-time guard season. Lucas having an amazing season. Wemby has solidified himself as, you know, the best defensive player, maybe he ever. And then, you know, adding to his, to his resume, people were talking about, oh, by the time

the playoffs end is Wembe going to be, you know, the best player in the world. It has to right now. Like, this, it feels very like Michael Irvingy. Like, you have to step up right now and don't let another man come into your house, take your meal. because all of these other guys are superheroes and you do have to ascend into that, especially when you spent nine months saying that they're not superheroes and that you're the guy.

And we heard a little bit about like, oh, I'm going to add the post game. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. You saw the game a couple weeks ago when it was OKC versus Minnesota. She's like, yeah, I'm just going to walk into whatever I want. I'm just going to score whenever I want.

It's going to be easy. And it hasn't unlocked that next level of just like nuclear bomb. I'm scoring 35 on absolutely anybody, any defense in the world. Yeah. It's so sad because we all sit here and agree with you. We'll also say we would all agree with this too. He's been better.

This is like the best version of Anthony Edwards that we've seen ever. Yeah, I don't even want to criticize. I'm like, I mean, shout out the commercial discourse. Yeah. But it's really, the only reason he's not five is because Kauai turned back the clock and became one of the best players in the world again. Otherwise, he'd be clear cut six. And then none that the guys in top five have fallen off yet.

And they're just like some of the best offensive players ever. So I have nothing bad to say, but I think he had words this season. Yeah, just tough shit, man. Top five. Top five, top five, top five. Okay, so at five, I have Hawaii Leonard, four, I have Luca, three, Shea, number two,

Curry, one, Yolkes. So one and two for me are just like, you're submitted them in NBA history, and I think you're like a top three offensive player of all time. Here's the thing. Top four, top five, whatever it is. You have now rent Steph Curry

above Luca Donchitz in about three years are appointed on rankings. No, no, no, no. And is damn sure not because of Lucas' defense. No, definitely not. Right now, I came to a realization moment. That's cool. Last night, I realized this is the last year where I think Curry's ever going to

like do anything of like he's going to have like much eyes or respect, not respect, but attention on him. And I think I don't know if he'll be at this level anymore. I think Yolkich and Curry obviously doesn't need not much easy to be said, but they can walk with walking with anyone and they'll make offense easy, the different type of offense too, you know? And that's something that's like it's different tiers, different legacy wise. You guys literally changed basketball.

I once again said, and Steph Curry didn't necessarily get worse this year at all. He just been hurt and his team is ass. I once again say for three straight years, you rank Shay and Luca above Curry on our point guard list. Why the fuck would Curry be above them now? This is just his version of Donovan's LeBron picture. It makes no sense.

No sense. Like, Shay, okay, She's a better defender. Maybe you think Curry's a better offensive player, I guess. Luca sucks at defense. He's a worst defender than Curry, and you think Luca's a better player overall. So why would he not be the better offensive player?

He does suck on defense right. Correct. Offensive list. He's trash. Now, you are right. But for all those things said, they're just cemented in NBA history in terms of, in terms of like we've never seen anything like you. That's true. Never see anything like you.

And you are offense on your own matter who the fuck you have carrying on your team. And I can't necessarily say that about, Shay. I can't say that about Luca at all. Do you think Curry is better at basketball than Luca don'ts today? Say it work to folk. Please say it. Scream it. As right now in this moment in time, that's fair.

You can say that. No, you cannot. I said you can say that. Not me. You can say that. That's perfectly fair. That's fine. You've said it for three years.

I'm giving Kerry the ultimate respect and my ultimate legacy like pick right now. Just like him with LeBron. Everyone's giving a slot for it. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Curry deserves it, brother. What you're seeing what Luke is doing, what Shays is when you got Curry above him. This year?

still bro like the words are it's it's crazy how much worse they are with that is that is true it i was thinking about these yesterday too it's really disgusting they said it's your last dance here's out horford yeah and then mid to midway point of the season they're like here's keep kp the dude who don't fucking play steve care was talking about this might be my last year it was cooey in the air is he gonna fucking retire this sad maybe this is tough yeah it's tough shit right brother's hurt like it's tough with that being said you are giving slop but i understand it it's salute and the only time i've ever done an offensive player list you want to slop him i get it of course curry yon is four lucet three luca two yokech one and of course the hardest debate of this

entire list luca for shay two and three that is incredibly difficult i do respect you for putting luke et too so i'll give you let's go i don't even know if i it's it's the quintessence you can say your list first i go ahead and uh yonis at five kawaiat four shay at three, Luca at two, Yocatette one. So you agree with me. You did Luca over Shea. That is like the, that's the like the conversation of the year, I think right now. Yeah, I think, I mean, offensively,

Luca is just a better playmaker than Shea. And I think that that alone gives him, gives him the nod as an offensive player. Yeah, I guess that that is a simple answer. Yeah. Like, I think it's that where we talk about like Shay being this like all-time guys. It's because as a bucket getter, She is as great as we've ever seen. And he not only is he just not a bad defender.

He's a good defender, a positive plus defender. And so the combination of those two things turn you into new age Kobe Bryant, turn you into new age Michael Jordan. And so if if Luca was like half the defense, a quarter of the defender that Shane was, like then maybe we can start having conversations. Luca is a cone. He's so he's bad defensively. Yeah.

He's not good defensively. Ironically, he's been pretty decent out of late. But to your point, at his worst and most of the time, he's bad. He's not, he's not good. A cone is being a bit dramatic for some time, but like, there's times where he's cones for sure. She's never a cone. And that alone, if we had, we had just a little bit more on that side of the ball. Luca could then start getting all the MVPs that everybody's wanted to give him.

He could be the best player in the world that people have talked about and wanted to give him the crown. But that's just not there. And it seems to just not be his bag. Yeah. So I agree with you. I went Luke over Shay in essence for playmaking, right? But it's like, I think a lot of people would treat that. as like, yeah, so Lucas is better.

Check the boxes. It's clear cut. I think it's perfectly reasonable to go Shee over him still. So obviously the scoring is consistency and efficiency versus volume and ceiling. She has the highest scoring floor

of like anybody I can remember outside of fucking Michael Jordan and LeBron. He will get his 32. It'll be other... He has a 66% true shooting this year for a guard that does not make sense. That is like truly unfathomable. You said what number?

66 true shooting. I think it's 67 now. It was tossing between rounding up or down. Either way, that's fucking crazy. I think it's 67 now. He just wanted to say 6.7? No. I just saw some set on Beacall class and I was like, damn, that's crazy.

But yeah, so either way, that's fucking crazy. That's how efficient. That's like yoke's efficiency. Yoke's just 7 foot. Like, that's crazy. Yeah. So that alone, 32 points for game, 67% true shooting is one of the best scoring seasons of all time.

Luca, obviously, is the higher usage, higher volume shooter and can give you 60. He has that upside. So if you want to debate that, scoring consistency and efficiency versus volume in many times in the playoff series, volume dictates the course of history.

Being able to go out there and drop 50 in a game, like that can be the deciding factor. So if you want to say there a wash as scores, I can understand your perspective. I'd say shade's a better score. As a playmaker,

he's not Luca. He doesn't turn the ball over at all. That is what eventually is separated for me as well. That's so valuable. He does not turn the ball over at all. He makes all the right passes. He's not a bad playmaker. He just gets the ball at his hands quick.

when the doubles come, does it to the wing, keeps the ball moving. And in some ways, while he's not throwing the beautiful skip pass on the crazy lobs that Luca does, which is amazingly valuable, keeping the ball moving

and playing within the team context and just quickly making that decision, never making mistakes, and just allowing the team around you, the ball hands around you, to get their touches and elevate everybody and not be so dominating of the ball

is extremely valuable playmaking. So despite the assist numbers and despite the wowing passes of Luca, I think as playmakers, they're very close. Yeah, I think that, to encapsulate all that at the top of this at the top of what you said what was like the main

deal breaker for me which is why I put Shea above Luca just slightly is the consistency it's when it comes to when it comes to Luca he can go off fucking 50 60 70 and it hurts bro like they're both going to give you belt but someone like Luca would give you like a fucking frying pain right like you'll feel that shit for months but Shea you're going to feel it consistently for the entire year with Luca though like it's going to leave some insane bruises

breath. But at the end of the day, when it comes between the two, like, Shays and his, she and his ability to not turn the ball over makes his floor so much safer night in and night. On top of that, too, the type of shots that he takes naturally just learn to be like more efficient, more efficient. And their, his shitters are completely different than Luca's shitter. You can still win with, with a Shay shipper. But with Luca, it completely nukes your entire ability to for the whole part. And I do think that like, Luke is one of the best floor raisers of all time. The fact that he's incredible, maybe the best ever at setting up corner three, and lobs, the most efficient plays in basketball, that he will give those to any role players

around him, gives you a crazy floor. I think there's an argument that the ceiling of Shay's play style and how he isn't so domineering of the ball and gets the ball out of his hands fast when doubles are thrown at him helps facilitate his co-stars being better and helps the overall floor of the offense. And that's why it's no coincidence that all the advanced analytics, all the like EPMs, darko, all these stuff that measure your impact, which is like on-off numbers plus a lot of contextual evidence. They measure Shea as the more impactful offensive player and that's going to be like people are going to see that and be like oh guess the number doesn't matter lucas clutely better and no she just does a lot of little things better that add up to a more

successful play style overall yeah wait mo you think you can survive a she shitter more than the lucas shir a shay sherry shitter oh shitter yeah yeah i think so yeah i think so because there's still going to be so many different now this is an offensive conversation are we talking about like specifically luca on the lakers versus shay on the thunder because i i just feel like the Thunder is so reliant on Shea's offensive production. When he does have his shiters, it's like, it's cooked. But the Lakers still have Lebron and Reeves. Yeah.

But when Lucas shits himself, it's also cooked. Like, the Lakers need to have that peak offensive value. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, both of them. It's just mad loud with Luca because the turnovers are nasty. And then on top of that, too, like the type of shots that he takes, where he takes literally like 10, 12, 3s a game. That's insane.

Yeah, those step back threes don't, they don't stress the defense anyway. So when you're taking stepback threes in isolation. Yeah. If those miss four times in a row, all of a sudden, you wasted four possessions with no chance of setting anybody up. Whereas the Shay drive is always going to have an opportunity to draw defenders, even if he misses his mid-range jumper, misses his layup or whatever. There's a way higher floor. I agree. Yeah.

Like for the first 29, 30 games of the year, Lucas shot like 31, 32% from the three-point line. And like, like, things weren't looking good at all. And that's, like, all that discourse is on its own right now. But for someone like Shay, like, there's just always going to be safer ways to get to the end. get to your means at the end of the day. And I think that right there makes me feel like safer overall to answer your question. Okay. It's tough.

I give you a point. Plus, Luke is great in the playoffs too. And like I said, scoring explosions can define history. Like it is an incredibly important thing to be able to do. So I don't want to downplay it as it's like. Yeah. Consistency is better, but it's not like Lou is not consistent. Yeah.

He had a rough stretch, but he still gets amazing points and amazing numbers whenever he's missing threes. 100%. I agree. Like if my, I've seen. and she take like so many tough shots they're both like equal tough shot makers luca maybe like he just has more volume when it comes to that i remember like a couple years ago when we saw she i think experiment with this two points on he took like nine 12 a game or whatever tried to look like lucca couldn't do that shit at all at all he had to develop in his game and like that it's just like

clear gaps in that and since he did that of course like we talk about him so much more so much more differently and then also if he was going back to your point is it when it comes to the turnover thing that has always been like the biggest like the biggest difference maker and that saves so many possessions that adds like invisible points onto your team invisible points on the board invisible points onto this onto the scoreboard at the end of the day so that's just so that's that's tough and that's a difference maker I wish it was a more creative pastor and playmaker that's just like cool points at the end of the day and it's more like style creative points but when it comes to just trying to get to your means I'm not going to say it doesn't matter it's clearly like

It would change Chet Holcomb's fucking life. He will look so fucking different alongside alongside Luca. But it is what it is. And that's the thing. She's not a great interior passer. That's the difference. He doesn't throw off.

Like, that's not his game. He doesn't have a good feel for those reads. And that's like, that's ultimately why I put Luca above him. Is like, that alone is a big difference and being able to set people up in that way. But I don't know.

Like we're so used to these heliocentric ball handlers over the last 15 years, Russell Westbrook, James Hardin, Luca Donchich. Don't worry about you else in there. 10 assists a game. crazy playmaking numbers.

Like, wow, RIP Magic Johnson's records. These guys are throwing out every crazy assist per year you can imagine, but also a ton of turnovers. It's all about usage and having the ball in their hands a lot. When one goes up, the other one goes up. And the kind of talking point has been, what you just do with that? You want the ball on your best player's hands. The mistakes will come with that.

She said, how about I also have crazy usage and just don't turn it over? That's just crazy. Like, he passes the ball just as much, dribbles the ball just as much and just doesn't put it in arms away. Yeah. I know kind of crazy that we're not even the big. rating one at all. Yeah, is what it is.

It is what it is. It kind of sounds like you want to put She above him. I mean, I didn't. I do want to, but I also want to put Luke above him. Like, the real answer here is they're tied to me. Yeah. Is that like, I can't put a tie, but the real answer is they're completely even to me at this moment.

Offensively. And then Chase's a better defender, so I think he's a better player. But offensively, I think they are pretty dead even. Yeah, probably. Also, once again, shout out Kau. Yeah, hell yeah. I'm surprised you could shout out. Guy, honest, you're there.

Dude, when it comes to like isolation scores this year, like after Shay, there's no one better than Kauai this season. Kauai's in that, he's in that category where every time, every time Kauai takes a midi, I think is going in. And I'm more shocked whenever he misses than whenever he makes it, regardless of how tough the shot is for him getting, getting to it. And he's so, so methodical, so in the best way, robotic, getting to his spots and just rising up and on any given night just being like yeah i'm gonna come out here from school 40 and it's

just it's gonna be easy so i think the ease in which kawai can get can get to the places on the floor that he wants to the efficiency that he can he also has shown again this year the high-end stuff he's always he's shown the the clutch stuff as well it's just been a full package of offensive scoring for kawai um so yeah he he just had to be top five for me for uh right now that's fair. And then Janice. And Janice has lost the season, but he's Janus. So who knows? Yeah. Yeah, that's, I honestly, I wanted to put either Ant or Steph at five, but I just came back where I was like, it's Janus.

He's honest. Remember beginning of the year before he got hurt. He was playing the best offensive basketball, his life. Yeah. The playmaking, the post-scoring, it was nuts. That's crazy. Yeah. You shooting 62% from the field, which is easily like the most efficient year of his career, which is- And it's annoying because I feel like any year now can be the year where he slows down his body. You tell me it's a Kevin Garnett situation. he gets two good years on his next team, I can fully buy that. It feels almost likely,

and it's infuriating that there's wasting a year of him. He better get a right. He need to sit his ass down, man. I do want to ask, healthy Tatum, where is he? Not in this tier. Yeah, he's not. Go back.

He's probably at... He's bottom half of this year. I'll speak to my list. He's probably around D. Mitch. Yeah. So 10 or 11. Yeah, maybe I'll have... One B or Sam, I guess,

would be a combo for me. Okay. Wemby, yeah, it would be Wembe, Durant, Healthy Tatum, Jalen Brown, yeah, so around that. Three points. Dancers. Damn.

Okay, yeah. 7.8, just inflation. Just throwing money. But that being said, that is any of our rankings. That is the top 30 offensive players in the NBA. Be soles, what was the best and worst take? Best take. Best take.

I think everyone just having Yokachat, one was caught up that was good that was good the worst take yes Lebron

would be crazy that's crazy I also think the curia too just because he's raised those two when he ranked looking here

for three straight years it's like what mind you I told you the brown one was fluid I told you

I told you could drop in the rankings I told you I told you could drop at any moment listen man curry is just inventive I can't say

no shit like that by anyone outside of Yok Yokich in this list right now also the band placement was kind of

He was barely on the list What do you mean? He's like I'll put him like top 15 He hates all his Eastern Conference rival He hates on Jimmy, hates on bam They get included to lose points Big Man shooting 44% On top 25 offensive players list

Well 44% isn't that crazy on its own Cat shoots 46% from the field That's the bad part You don't like cat Cat was off your list Listen man Different reasons I told you he's a Nick Due to math

What do you make your list if you didn't drop 83? Fuck no. No. No. He's history. Well, guess who dropped 83 though. Yeah.

And that's why the end of that game is so few days. Cool. Bam. Now you got to say it. With that being said, that is the end of our rankings. So now it is time for the next section of the show. It is time for Be Souls to press that button and enter Producer Corner. Yes.

You got a button now? Been at a button. Oh. Producer Corner. He always forgets where it is. Where's my question? I forget it's about me. We need to make him a theme song.

All right. My question of the day is. I sure I would. I did it last time. On a beat, let me see what I do. Don't be up here, rap for me. I'll do it. I'll do it.

Let me be. We'll be fresh from 2K17. What's something you find out about a person and you're just like, we can't be friends? Oh, what's my ick? Yeah. What's your ick? make it like non-political

I'm gonna say I'm gonna have like an ice tattoo or something I don't know imagine like for example finding out your friend doesn't tip waiters like at all like shit like that

okay do you have friends who don't do it no okay what's a friendship it's not besides political stuff yeah yeah

what's ick of yours yeah I just said imagine finding all your friend doesn't tip wait no no no you specifically yeah That is it, come.

I don't have any friends who do that. Really? Do you have any more, you think? Um. So what are annoying habits you don't like in people? And friends, because friends is a different phrasing than like relationship. It's a different.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So friend. I can't be friends with you if like, you only take two showers a week. What? You know people like that? No, I'm just, I'm just giving out examples. But you didn't pull this out your ass.

You know people like that. No, I did. I did pull that out of my ass. I can do that, man I can do that, what are intolerable things I'm trying not to make it like I've never had

I've never like I've only cut one person like one like one like lost one friend because of something so I don't really have like a like a friendship. Yeah but this is like the question for you

theoretically what are things I'm trying to think though like okay let's let me paint your speak your language let's say Mo's single and Mo brings a new girl

to a Super Bowl watch party and you've never met the girl before and what are things she would do that you'd be like I don't want her to come around that you after it's over you talk to your wife and be like you saw what this bitch dude like what would be things like that first of all loud great scenario great great scenario I'm locked it now I'm locked it now I am crying what would be some things where you said ugh why she has no matter this is kind of recent This is up his alley. I don't know. Just not speaking to anybody. Like not saying hi is like very like I. I think like generally just like generally good manners is is.

What shoes in the couch? Huh? What about you? Overall, I think for me. If it's not your house, yeah, what are you doing? It's your couch. Somebody you never met before, but she's in your couch. I think people overall.

Shoot the couch is crazy. Yeah. People overall who just like get too comfortable, too quick. like that's always been like a pet pee for me like of course that you can talk to somebody but for the first time you know you see somebody can't do that I remember one time I had one of my high school friends coming to my house like two of them and one of them he's been like a lifelong best friend or whatever and another one I'm trying to like build a relationship with him he's not my man's but it's his man's dude came into my crib

opened up the cabinets he's like what you got in here what the fuck that's that's crazy what are you're too entirely comfortable right now you know so I think it's I think people don't who are self-aware. I think that's what you got in here. Yeah. Literally. My dad looked at me, he's like, you can't come here no more. He'd they don't bring him here. Yeah, I guess like, if you're like rude to like

waiters or something like that, that 100% is like we can't. Oh yeah. We can't. We can't. We can't rock. Yeah. Service workers. Yeah. Or like arguing for no reason to work with them. Yeah. Because some and so much at the time like it's not their fault that whatever's going wrong is going wrong. Like they really are

just a messenger and you just out here being mean to them that's that's kind of whack so yeah I would say that yeah that it's not like saying hi or like speaking whenever you like come into somebody's house or anything like that it's pretty rude I'm

I'm kind of I don't know wait so was that the guy's like that was his first time at your house yeah and did last time too yeah never seen I never seen friendship icks man I think there's I feel like there's so many but I can't I can't put him into words

Because that's how I Guys are listening to Tori Lanes That's pretty gross I think I've Pre-Meg Tori It's not post-Megory Oh

Pre-Meg Tori You just had bad taste It's fine Tori was always kind of whack But you just have bad taste It's alright You had some stuff You like some

You like Slop essentially He has some hits But you just like like Drake Slop essentially But it's fine You can like that Post-Mag Tori Now you're a loser

Yeah It always bothered me I've never understood People who were Who will nickel and dime you on on like Venmo or something like that. That bothers me a lot.

Like if you're Venmo and me for anything under $5, please do not. Under $5, how old are you? You give me a $3 Vemmo as an adult. I'm never speaking to you again. Yeah, like that type of stuff is ridiculous. Does that happen to you? Do cheap friends bother you?

Friends that are cheap? Cheap's fine. Yeah, cheap's fine. I think like, again, it's with like the, like the, the, the lower cost, like $10 or less, I feel like is very much, you get this while I get the next one. But you said less than five. Are you had somebody vimo you for $3 in your adult life? I've seen it. And it's made me like secondarily upset.

Are you mad at the people like the individuals who accepted it or the guy who sent it? The guy who sent it. Three dollars is a funny number. I mean, it's like, okay, like kind of respectable. I would be mad at the guy who sent it. Yeah. I'd be mad at like you were pressing me for $2. That's the big answer.

You sending a memo for $3, that's pressing in itself. What? Okay, so you mean sending, like, giving the money, you mean sending like sending the request? Yeah. Do you guys agree? Yeah, sending the request? Oh, sending the request is crazy.

Yeah, you guys agree. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay, okay. Yeah, so that's it. But, yeah, I said that, I mean, a lot of the other, like, friendship, egg stuff or stuff where it's like, oh, like, we can't really be friends is, like,

probably much more fundamental. Yeah, like moral stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. Y'all, y'all. That's pretty much the premise of the thing. Yeah. People who, uh, chew with their mouth open type of shit. Chew with their mouth open. Nah. I can't believe you don't have a million things. I've, I have family members who do that and it's like, listen, generally, I hate a lot, but I'm generally pretty like understanding. Like, I give people a lot of grace.

But I feel like With me it's like a line though Like Once you're on the opposite side of the line Then like everything that you do is like Unruly and uncouth But for the most part

It's like yeah You're just different But yeah I'm not 100% sure Okay I do have a TikTok to pull up here real quick Please Of someone who Definitely has an answer

For what I just asked And I want to see if Y'all agree or disagree with her Okay Okay I don't know I thought you meant this is one of us. I was like, holy shit, you're pulling up one of our old tweets or something.

All right, let's see what this is. He went on a date with the cheapest guy in New York. He takes me to dinner. He chooses the restaurants and he wouldn't pay for anything extra. There's cheese extra on the burger, $2, $3 extra. It would just wouldn't get it. He'll be like, no, that's extra. No, that's too expensive. I didn't want it. I'm like, dude, it's the first eight. Can you just not be so cheap? I ate and I just left from there. I decided I'm going to pay the bill. I'm going to make a statement And I'm just, and I just left. Oh, my God.

Did you guys ever talk again? That's all y'all need to hear. Yeah, this girl's a terrible vibe. I mean, I get it. And he's his chief. Yeah. And then it went again. So she goes on a date.

Guy doesn't get the extra cheese on the burger. That's a deal breaker for her. Is that crazy? Yeah, of course it's crazy. You said, maybe he's just broke. I think it's fine. It's not crazy. It's not crazy.

Because the detail that she said, he picked the restaurant. If you're, if you are the one, If you're doing that, you're in control. You have to set your game up to succeed. You put yourself in a bad situation. You hired an offensive coordinator that you know you don't rock with. You need to play within your means take advantage of home court advantage. It was poor shot selection.

He shouldn't have picked a restaurant you couldn't afford. It was unwise. It's just $3. He could clear afford it. Probably. But if you can't, the tone and the vindictiveness around the $3 cheese is crazy. To be like, look, get this broke bitch out my face. I hate him.

I'm like the tone to be like I had to leave before the dinner was over and had to tell people about it. Like the tone is a little vindictive. I feel that. But why are you taking somebody to a place? Sure, sure. It was unwise for sure. That's bad. You can't operate like that.

Yeah, on a first date is crazy, man. You can't be cheap on the first date. You can't do it. I will ask. What if you need to be cheap? You shouldn't go on first dates? No, you have to. You got to go on first dates within your class.

He ain't going. He told her with his classes. And that it was, apparently. Apparently not. You should have took her to Chick-fil-A. Wait, real quick. I can go here, don't be going crazy. Was she adding, like, cheese to her burgers and shit like that?

Was that her thing? No, she said that he wasn't adding cheese to his bag. Oh, that's okay. That's fine. You don't want that extra. Because it was extra. No, no, no, but he wanted it, though. That's the thing.

How do you know? Do you say that? Yeah, it was like, I mean, yes. I think the specific phrasing, she told it in another TikTok. She was like, he was like, uh, the, the waitress asked him, though, do you want cheese on this? He goes, is it extra? He goes, uh, she goes, yes.

goes no I'm good I feel like a fine interaction to me you don't want a patient where you went that said but I see both sides it's fine right you wanted the cheese now you can't you can't do it you can't do it so what if you can't afford it night you can't you can't even know if they went we don't know this is no boo maybe with the cheese cake factory it's mad reasonable he doesn't want to be going too crazy I'm sorry if that if if and again like it's not even shade if you can't afford a cheesecake factor you got to play within you mean you got to be creative if you don't have if you don't have that is creative going to cheesekin factory and not

doing extra as he's creative. No, if you don't have money for a sit-down restaurant, you know what we are hitting. We are hitting this coffee shop and walk date. We're spending the all-day date. We're finding free items and free activities to do if we're not going to sit down and do that. That's bad shot selection, is bad creativity. I'm putting that all on the guy. At best, we're not going on a second date after this.

Maybe the whole leaving in the moment shit is extra. Yeah, that's crazy. If my daughter walked up to me and told me this, I'm like, you kind of drag in a little bit. Yeah. I could get it. Like a dude. I would say I get it, but. you're being rude as fuck.

Yeah, exactly. I'm like, you're doing a little bit too much. There's so many other things to, like, complain about. He chose the restaurant. Then, like, $3 cheese.

So don't call him back if you don't want to. But the shame of it is a terrible vibe. I can understand. She got asked the question. And she didn't have to be so, like, vindictive about it. You hear the toe where she was like, can you believe this shit?

You can't, you can't. I can't believe it. I understand. I'm what serious. You can't look to you on the first day. I'll ask you guys, because I had this conversation with my family. What is,

what's the most amount of gift cards that you can use on a date. Oh my God. Like, whoa, we're using multiple gift cards. One, one. Now, if it's like,

if you pull out for it. Yeah. This is what we talking about, man. We are out of our means. No, bro. Now, mind you, you like, you fully can't afford the restaurant. However,

you just happen to have a gift card from this specific establishment. This is what I was telling you all. And you haven't. I didn't even think you have to go in with shit like this. I got, nobody doubts I have the money, but I want to use my,

gift cards now I'm a bum what the fuck I'm spreading out if I got four gift cards to let's say Texas Roadhouse I'm spreading it out over four trips bro I'm not using it up nah that's bad looks that's crazy I would be like hey I got a hundred dollars of gift cards we're give whatever you want to me that just means like your family is gracious right like they love you they're always giving you gifts no matter what anyone was a problem with that you I do not want to associate with them if they have an issue with me buying our dinner with Texas Roadhouse gift cards get the fuck away from me he found his it yes about shit like that get the fuck away from me there's so many like bigger things to worry about

does it change if it's a if it's like a visa gift card it's just money oh my gosh like because sometimes like you get like some random like 25 like visa gift card yeah and so it's like if i have if i have two of these i have $50 on the visa gift card 50 dollars on the gift card 50 dollars on regular can you can you use the gift cards on the first date yes gift cards first date it's kind of icky too man i don't i probably wouldn't I wouldn't do that because I don't want to have it like I would I would just avoid everything you're saying yeah but if you use a Texas Breastings specifically I think if I wouldn't say that I'm like I got these gift cards dinner's free tonight and I feel like any girl with I want her to be like dope you know like sick like I wouldn't want her to be like ew like the implications that I need to do this like I only have the gift cards yeah I just need but it's just smart yeah that was that was just the thing I just wanted to know how many and then we we we we we were having this conversation while we were like out at uh at lunch and so on our way out we asked our um we asked our waitress how many that she would feel is like being OD and she said four

she said four gift cards in what in one sitting would be in one sitting yeah that kind of me i can understand that fee the feeling of it that kind of feels like you're like scraping your last you know but if you know you're not like get over it yeah but it gives the impression that you are so i understand why it's like yeah like if we're doing if we're doing if we're We're doing like getting a better question. Do you think you give the impression that if you have gift cards, you're giving the impression as a person that's all you guys? That's a you problem.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I think it is. That's what I think anybody I'm at a day with is going to think. Oh, all he has is Texas Roadhouse. I'm not going to lie. That's the vibe I'm giving off. If we went to like, that's definitely big backish of you though.

I ain't going to lie. For four of your friends slash relatives to be like, yo, this dude loves Texas Roadhouse so much. That's kind of tough. Four of your individuals around you, You can't use Texas Roadhouse gift cards? Or like you just get like that's a different red flag. You get the you get the gift cards with like four or five restaurants on it.

Yeah. That's a funny visual. You know. So it's just mad logos on this gift cards. Cheddar's Texas Roadhouse. It's just mad, mad logos. But it does,

it does feel like that. Like bro, we can go to like the opera and then if we go to dinner and like if I pay for gift cards, I'm a feel broke. It's going to feel like in the barrel. Pure skill issue. You probably pull it out.

you have this like fucking insecurity you're like I got gift cards bitch made just pull it out be like hey free dinner and it's good pure skill and shit I wouldn't even pull out a gift card on the first date that's I probably wouldn't either but if I did like it got like me a point out that A max point he'll hear that middle drop on the first date yeah second day hi okay okay I'll pull out the discover for this okay new friendship ick feeling like you have to put on and back like the car choice indicative of who you are the first day. That means you're a bad day. That means you're not good at displaying good qualities.

I'm crying. That means you're focused on the wrong things here. You're trying to show all aspects of your game. Yeah. And all aspects? You got to show not only can I don't, I can do a 360. What are my aspects? Resourcefulness.

Strategicness. Free Texas Roadhouse. You don't think this is cool? See, man, that line of thinking right there, that's kind of like Cam Tom, Cam Thomas is. You know, it's like you don't have to do this. This is like such a one. You don't have to have this level of aesthetics in your game.

But if I can. You do it, but you can, like, you show it in other ways, though. You don't have to, like, solely focus and show the entire world that, hey, you got this. You know what I'm saying? We can see it later. I like to see it. I like to see it. You like being teased?

Yeah. I don't you, man. Kinky souls. I know. Kinky souls is in the building. We're still here. Kinky souls in the building. Kinky souls is.

Never the little one. Oh, my gosh. Big kink in this bitch. Big kinky. We need to get that buttoned that Joe button. Kinky. Are you kinky? Kinky?

Yeah. I'm saying two gift cards, by the way. I'm just saying two gift cards is the max. It's just like I never have gift cards. So I don't even know if I'd actually do it. But I think the idea of not being able to is crazy. I'll find like just random random gift cards sometimes. You find them?

Like, yeah, like a couple months ago. like a $10 like Starbucks gift card in the in my car that's crazy if my daughter or my sister or like my college best friend walked out to me and told me about how she had issue with this I'm thinking that your mind is like not in the best place there's so many other things to worry about yeah I'd say you're not entirely wrong it's a little funny but like the way you go about telling me this is just bad vibes if they do this consistently but okay consistently is different let's say let's say let's say let's say they came they told you this story you said I I I think you're doing a bit much.

And they said, you know what? You're right. We're going to go out on a second date. Second date happens. The same thing happens. You don't get the $3 cheese again. I would say that's just him. And I, if you don't like him enough,

so the real answer is, the real answer here is he wasn't cool enough and didn't like him enough to look past that. Mind you. She's looking for reasons to not like it. Mind you, that's the answer to every single day question. If he was him, she wouldn't care. She would never tell the story.

She would have been on the second date. She would have forgot about it. But because it was teetering the line, this one thing. She's like, I can't tolerate it. don't actually care about this. You just think he's black as fuck? Yeah, that's true. All right.

Look at us, man. Should we start that dating podcast? Good Lord. I did reheat some nachos with this one. Now that being said, that is the end of producer corner. That is the reheated nachos of the day. It is time for some TikTok time. Let's do it.

Welcome to TikTok time. Today, we are once again going to begin with a draft. In fact, it's kind of kind of going to be two drafts in this episode to some degree. But we're going to start off doing a draft where we do a team where we draft together. We are going to see if we can draft an 82-10 team, point guard through center and a six man. We spin a team on the left, pick a player from that team. Here's a twist. We are taking players that were in the league in 2016.

In the league in 2016. Yeah, so a snapshot of the 2016 NBA. I'll pull up the roster just in case we forget exactly who's on a team. And you get the version of that player from 2016. Perfect. Fuck. Yeah, not this year. I got to try to remember.

First off. First spin, we got Atlanta Hawks, 2016 Hawks. Kyle Corver might be the best answer. Yeah, got to get... If you want... Kyle Corford.

We need some sugar. You don't want Horford? Horford's like a very respectful. 2016, how many centers are better than Al Horford? It's a 15-16 season. They were fourth in the east that year. So yeah, we can go Horford.

We can go... Horver, we can go Paul Millsap. Dennis Shrewder off the bench. Fuck no. It's either Corver or Horford. How many centers are better than all for it in 2016? Ooh, not a lot. Yeah. Oh, not a lot. But also, Kyle

Kover is probably the outside of Steph Curry and Clay, like the best shooter in the league. If we can get Al Horford and a great power forward, that can be our best path, I think, because there's not a lot of centers better. The question, is this team trying to go 80 to and 0 in 2016? I don't know, whatever. Okay. I'm about to say.

Tough. Ah, man, I think. Because what centers would have been, it would have been buggy? We can. put AD at the five. Yeah, I think we go Horford. Worst case in narrow, you put Horford the four or six man.

Like he has a lot of versatility. Okay. Yeah, let's go with Horford. Okay. Horford at center. Could be worse. Next spin. We got,

come on. Give me something better. Give me a star. New York Knicks. 2016, Nix. Oh. Ricky K.

2016. No. Is he 16 or 17? He was there in 2016, I think. The 2015 16th. Yeah, he was 16. He was the NASSIS was there.

They had KP They still are Carmelo Anthony In 2016 But that's like Towards the end 31 year old He averaged 21.8 points per game You can be a good six man

AP Me off the bitch Low key Six man Carmelo Anthony is one hell In 2016 They tried to do that to That's a great

That's a great weapon They tried to do that too Fuck it You say AP They're trying to give You come off the bench Yeah man That order we go KP

And try to have That is rookie KP I think we go Mello six man That's elite Okay six men Okay, six-man-mello. That's kind of a crazy advantage.

Yeah. We'll see who we start above him. Maybe he moves back up. You know what? If Mello's bought in, he believes in the team, he can't play. Denver Nuggets in 2016. Fuck. We're talking about Gary Harris.

We're talking about. We're getting terrible teams, man. Jamal Murray. They were 33 and 49 this year. They did have Nicole Yokish on the team. Is Wilson Chandler on this team? Fuck, man. We're probably, so who was rookie Yokish?

Young Yokich can still do some things. Is your 60? Danilla Gallonari? I don't I don't want to take What did what did you We're trying to go 82 and no No 18 points for game

He was a good player Space the floor Yokets you do? No no no Oh Delano Deno Gallanoi What do you go What do you do?

As a rookie I don't think he played a whole lot He was a rookie in 14 No he didn't come to the league Right away Oh really? Yeah you stayed Wow

Oversease Just a blipping my memory This is his rookie year You play 21 minutes For game 10 points per game Seven rebounds Two point four is Solid you know what

Put Mello at the 3 Put Yokech at a secret No, our defense is cooked And we start both of them But do you want to pull Horfrey Power 4 And Ricky Yokitch Fuck it Let's try

I'm sure Rick Yokin could defend a thing Maybe Yo, we're We already lost this So you know what I think we have to go six man Rookie Yokic Actually did it look out on Ari It's probably better

But no Rookie Yokic is more of a weapon We knew what to do with him early Because we're time travelers We'll empower Rookie Yokish Under Six Man And start Mello That's our best bet

And we have to get in the league. Mellow at the four. Yeah, we can hide Mello defensively so far. Okay. Could be worse. We'll make Yolkish early. We need a top five. Charlotte Hornets.

Bro, fuck me. It's only Kimmel Walker. Oh my God. 2016. Your own remote sessions? Big Al? We're getting terrible teams. Nick Baton was there.

Al Jefferson. Nick Baton. Fuck out my face, right. Then I guess I got to pick Al Jefferson. Oh, hell no. We can't do that. Why not? Because of your team.

do we have? We have to go with the guard here. You got to go with Kemba. We got out over at the four. Bro, take Kemba. Yeah. I don't know how many.

Wait, was Kimby even there? Yeah, he was. Kempel was there. 100%. I didn't see him on the list. I'm blind. Where is he at?

Kempbell is there. Okay, it's year four, Kemble Walker. Yeah. He wasn't an all-star yet. It doesn't matter. It's fine.

We got to. All right. All right. 20 points for game. So far, I don't even know this team can win 45 games, bro.

I don't know, man. Steve sucks. All right, next up. Spurs, thank God. Kawhi Leonard. Thank God we got Kawhi. We can save this if we get someone on the cab. 2016, Kauai was amazing.

That defense saves us. If we get a great defender at the two, if we go one of the best players in the world, we can still be saved. Who's the best two guard? Or we can get a three. Pamela, we can get big. If we get LeBron or save.

Give me LeBron. Give me LeBron. Give me Curry. Heat in 2016. D-Wade is caught. D-Wade's cut. D-Wade's cut? He was cooked in 14.

You're talking about Hassan-White-side? Who's on 2016 heat? What's that? D-O-Water's. Yeah, D-M-Waters. Who's that white boy? Oh, Chris Bosch was still there? Oh, wait, was he?

Yeah. Chris Bosch was still there. Joe Johnson was there. Lou Aldehan was there. A defender. What are we going to do? Year 11. Tyler Johnson,

welcome to my team. I think people put Kauai, the two, and we pick Chris Bosch at Power Forward. Because 2016 Chris Bosch His last year 19 points per game Pretty efficient Yeah

He didn't fall off Before he had to leave the league It was only 31 That's I like that It was only 31 Blood Clops Kempuk Hawaii Mello Horford

Let's see Dwayway in 2016 Let me make sure This is the year It was the year It was the last All-Star season 19 points for game 45 effective

Field goal percentage Pretty bad I'd rather have I definitely I think I would I would have Bosh This was

I think this was the year Dway was hidden like playoff game winners because remember he had that playoff series against Charlotte bro he shot 15% from 3 this season over 74 games hey man it wasn't his game

no no so kawai's shooting guard Chris Bosch welcome to our team stop demon I'm not gonna lie Bosch and Horford is some space that's some skill that's like mellow and kawai I wish we had a point guard as more of a defender

because we don't need Kemp blocker scoring with Kauai and Mello this team who win a championship is not 82-0 no man I think this could be a 61 team at its best though. We got rookie Yokish on the bench, man. We're unlocking some crazy lineup.

Put Yokin's at point guard. We're going to be doing what Greg Popovich is trying to do with Soha man. Except that's going to fucking work this time. How about that? How about crossovers off the bench? Loki, this isn't too bad. We got saved by Kauai and Bush. Thank goodness.

Thank goodness we got Kauai. Yeah. If we got Kauai, she would have been spooky. Fuck, man. Next thing we are going to do. I'm going to show you three an NBA quote You have to tell me

If you think it is real Or fake that I made up At a thin air There's an arrangement About half and half of bowls You tell me to what you think First quotes I love Twinkies

From Shaq Beas This is real or fake man His fat ass Okay we get I should have locked The team I can't get to rock

Turned it over. It's real. I would like to bet it's real based off of private context. We're not cutting that. It's your problem. Oh my God. Take one of no one, Shaq. Salute.

Part of the same team, man. It's all love. That thumb punches him inside the club. Oh, my God. I'm saying real. I'm saying real. You believe he said this. What do you think the context was?

I don't know. Commercial. Commercial. Commercial. I would say he's real. One of his 35 commercials. Yeah, surely he did Twinkies at some point. Surely he put it on that brand costume.

I don't put it past by him at all. I think you said this. Why would he not say this? I said surely he did Twikis at some point. You didn't see that, man. Bees those eyes lit up. Kinky B. Solved again. He is about Twinkies.

Oh, my gosh. Anyways, this is fake. Damn. What? He doesn't love Twinkies. Damn. I'm sure he does. Well, he might.

He might. Go ahead and Google. Shack and Twinkies. See what comes up. Oh, God. Wait, man, hold on. Let me not. Pause.

But my Kyriashi is killing me right now. Next up. I'm not a twer from Michael Jordan. What does he know about twer back then? Was that even a term in the 90s? He was at Freak Nick. Well, he's a thing. Michael Jordan is alive now.

He didn't die in the 90 years. But what is he taught? But he don't be on my camera like that at all. He said this at the NASCAR race. Yeah. He's rare outside expedition for the year. By the way, I'm not a twer. He'd be inside his cave, right?

Not twerking. But I feel like being anti-twerk is adjacent somewhat handed. I'm sure he is. He was also never big like, oh, like I'm into hip-hop. I'm into rap. I can see him being on this wave. I'm going to say real. He's anti-to-tress.

I'm going to say this fake. What the fuck does he have to do with him day? This is real. What did he say this? In the 2013 interview for the promotion of 2K14, he said, I'm not a Twitterer, I'm not a twerker, I'm not a Facebooker, I'm old school. Torqu team was on his peak right then in 2013, 2014, I'm not going to lie. You know all about that? That was peak of.

I'm a victim. Back when I was in eighth grade. He was tempted. I know more love that red nose song, man. Bro, you have to stop. you're nasty he's still like that song like a red nose

like a red nose slow down grab the wall oh my gosh man these are nasty he's brushing his teeth wobble like each other I can say

I can say you're fucking gas that's so moat oh my gosh anyways yeah He wants you to know that.

Nice to know him, Jay. People don't realize Draymond could score like KD if he needed to by Steph Curry. Did Steph say this? He never, he said some, he said some stuff. I don't think he said this. Why would he say this? Like KD. Who would corner him in a position like this to say this?

Yeah, like KD is the part that I think is fake. Because I think he would say that people don't realize Dremont could score if he needed to. but I think Steph understands just how good KD is. So I'm going to say fake. Yeah, I'm going to say fake too. There's no need to say this at all. Yeah, I'm going to say fake. Yep, he didn't say this.

He would never say KD. He'd probably say Draymond can get some buckets, but he knows he'd be setting Dremont up for slander if he said Kevin Durantz. That's crazy, man. Yeah, that's a big. First W for you guys. Okay, okay, okay.

Second. Would you get the, I got the, Tomahood, no. There's a team. You're with us, man. We need first. Say what you want about me, but leave the family alone,

call up the goons up and have them freshen up the crones by LeBron James. That first part, I definitely see. That second part. This is like a lyric? Lyrics he sings? That's real. That's real. Because I could see this as a quote tweet from LeBron.

And you know when LeBron's on Twitter, he gets very much into his bag. I'm a say. You think LeBron's telling his goons are freshen up the crones? I think he'll talk like that on Twitter. LeBron has shooters and he knows it? Yes. This has to be a song there. Why is he saying this?

What is the context? I don't know, but I'm gonna say Rue. We would know this if this is rude. I feel like it's fake. Because LeBron just be saying stuff. You probably know every LeBron quote ever. A lot of the famous ones, yeah. Yeah, nothing can squeeze by you.

But this shit, I think this is fake. I think this is fake. I'm going to Rue. This is real. It is from his leaked song with Kevin Durant when they wrapped her in the lockout. It is a song. LeVron wrapped this.

It is a little. Say what you want. Believe the family alone. They'll call it the goose. Have a fresh enough to cross. Crones. All right. He said this on the track.

It's easy. Yeah. And at the end of the verse, he was like, I listen to those hook go. And then she comes insane. Oh my gosh, bro. LeBron would need a deluxe, man. You're not typed in.

You're not typed in. Man, you're right. He's top 13 for sure. Do you believe LeBron has goons at fresh up the crumbs? Yes. Yes. If you wanted to, yeah. Okay. What animal are them tofu from by Charles Barkley?

Them tofu makes it seem real real. Them tofu. Yeah, it's real. It's Charles. Yeah. This is like spiritually Charles right now. It's giving Charles. Yeah.

This is telling me you think very little of Charles Barkley. No? I can see him saying this. Them tofu feels very Charles Barkley, but I'm going to say fake. I'm going to try and trip us up here. I think I was in my bag? Yeah. You think I can replicate his diction?

You think he would. Oh, okay. nothing to do with like the actual like meaning of this you're just talking about the phrasing it's two on the nose he thinks i'd do it yeah i think it's charles i think it's true charles brockley said this he has no clue where tofu comes from i would believe there yeah yeah i believe what was that my charles brircle impression they're here again ernie uh what animal are them to from okay you have to say with some more gum shit yeah you're whispering so king of the hill character.

She's like Bobby. Next up. Who's that little explicit from the cartoon's name? Lola Bunny? She was tough. What's wrong with him, man? Sometimes I wish he had him in league today.

I hope it's real because if you made that up, now I'm looking at you crazy. Yeah, it's real. That is a good way to go about this. This is real as hell. Why would you say that? This is real as hell. Sure.

Let's go real. Yeah. It's fake. What? This is wrong with you. I captured the mind of Dennis Robin quite well. What? He's method acting.

He's dangerous. No, man. He'd be thinking too much, man. Could you see Dennis Robin say? Yeah, that's exactly how he talks. She was tough. We should have known. Exactly.

It's a modern phrasing. I did a modern word to throw you off, but you couldn't see past it. But the thing is, Dennis Rahman's time or so. And people would probably say tough in the 90s. pretty not not in the way yeah i don't think in this i can totally imagine this fucking she was tough like i can totally imagine it good job

good job you cooks i got you today do some ogy from jason tatum fuck man this single-handly ruined his legacy did he say it no that's worse that's real that's real that's real

It's worse. This is real. This is to Kobe Bryant during the finals. What do you think like he thought the like audience response is going to be? Oh, he's tough. He was going to big up his legacy and like he was going to make commercials out of this or something. Yeah, he went to be on a commercial. What the hell?

Did they win? No. Yeah, they won. This game? That was after game seven, 22. Mm. I believe. Gotcha.

Gotcha. To get the finals. It gives like the bucks or some shit. Yeah. After the heat. After the heat game. Oh, I thought this was in the final. finals against the Warriors.

Oh, man. That's crazy. They almost choked that game away. The 22 one? Yeah. That would have been hilarious. The more Jimmy Butler could have hit that shot, but missed it. Oh, the pull up three.

Oh, my God. My life flash before my eyes, man. So what question is this performative? Definition of me, man. Beesholes. I think he believes it, though. Stop that, man. You know it's performative.

He does believe it. It can be two things at one. You can believe your performatism. Yeah. It's sincere, but it's also performative. Yeah. Okay. It's performing.

Dude, I'll be so disgusted and mad if I passed away and someone texting me to have me off the whim for no reason, bro. It's like texting my phone. Like, bro, let me rest. What are you doing? Yeah. Don't pay homage to me when I'm gone. Forget me.

And posting on the internet? Forget me. Please. I think the Democratic Party needs a top-down restructure. Hell not fake. That better reflect the beliefs of his young voters on international policy

and financial distribution away from the 1% Charles Barkley. Real. He read this off a teleprompter like shit. He was the ultimate

lock-in two for him as well. There's real big words. We did it real slow. I'm more real. You said Charles Barkley's illiterate? Like, no, not illiterate but like talking like this,

that's not how he talks. I think you put a Stephen A. quote and put on Charles Barkley. Stephen A would never say this. Stephen A. believe the absolute opposite I'm saying I'm saying this is real

I think because remember Chuck had that he had that weird show for a summer where he was just going around talking politics I'm gonna say he did

yes he was going around you don't forget we are going to start a dialogue that's where it was from he was doing like town halls across the country he was what year was this like 2016 or something

no I don't I think this is fake I'm gonna say real just for fun this is fake why would he say that Charles Bucking's not talking about

taking financial distribution away from the 1% motherfucker you are 0.5% what are you talking about even worse than that he's not saying this yeah they are completely against that

hell no line was like him at all nah it's not Charles I should have put a call from his young Miami interview I don't know anything about that oh you didn't see that Charles Barker's interview

Young Miami No. He's a freak certified, man. You tapped in with the freaks. I understand you more. It was on NBA Twitter. I'm pretty tapped on NBA Twitter. I've never seen it.

That was, they sent it in the... I'm sure it was going. If I was a Caesar salad, the croutons would be my friends. The lettuce would be my family and the dressing itself would be my mom. Kevin Garnett. Why is he talking about Caesar's satellite like this? What is he talking about the dressing like this? I'm a little.

say fake here. Yeah. I don't know what context. So if you were a Caesar salad, the crew tones will not be your friends? Dude, if someone,

one of my friends said this, I'm looking at you and I'm like, is everything good? Are you okay? It feels like a movie. What did you say this? Like a movie line or something. Like they're asking KG

to be some like, what do you say this on uncut gems? Some like comedic, no. No. What's my fucking money, bitch? That's all he said on uncut gems. Crazy movie.

There was no. no talk about a Caesar salad in the uncut gentleman. I'll beat the fuck at you, Adam. I feel like this is real, though, because I don't know. I just get the vibe. This is real.

I have no. I'm going to say fake. Why is he talking about salad? I'm going to say fake. This is real. He said this. When? 2000?

No. When he said it? He loves season. Saddle like this? Yeah, it was just a random quote. He just said things. Oh, it was 2004. He vividly.

illustrated his performance in an interview before crucial playoff game, making a rather controversial prophecy. And then he just said all this. All right. You know what? Not that I think about it. He does reference food a lot in his... He does. Yeah, he does. And he went further to. After this, he said if I was a Cobb salad salad, then blank, blank, blank, blank.

A cob salad. He went deep into the salad metaphors to explain his life. See, when you're that good, you could say anything you want, right? And no one's going to question you. When you're that intimidating? The MVP thinks the croutons are his friends. Who am I to say no? Yeah, right. Go ahead. You want some radish to? Just talking. schizophrenic.

That ass. He's talking to croutts off. Get him some help. But you know what? Get three blocks a game. You can talk to whoever. You can talk to lettuce. You can talk to dressing.

Whole family. You would love these AI videos. Oh my God. Now I become death, the destroyer of worlds. Victor Momoyama. Now I become death. The destroyer of the world. Now this is this is fake.

It is fake. This is a reach. I don't think it wouldn't you would say something like this. The Destroyer of Worlds. Unless it's like quoting a book or something. He's quoting like Thanos or something. Yeah.

Now I am become death. I think his English is awesome. Like it's good. I don't think he puts the phrase like that. But why would you say I become death? The destroyer of worlds. What is he doing?

Bro, this is a dark side quote. Yeah. Like, let me what's going on. It is not a Thanos code. I mean, he, again, hung out with the monks. We know that there was

some type of spiritual enlightenment. But this is a complete opposite, though. Like, he's turning to that next page. Well, I mean, he has to use his powers for evil to, you know, to, you know, like I get it. Are we going to, I'm going to say fake.

What do you say this? He went on a big tour after, you know, this entire summer working out with everybody saying a lot of stuff. I don't think this is part of, Yeah, well, you don't know the context what he said. He's doing deals with the devil, man.

He's got to be fake. You know the context. He's not talking about talking about basketball. The only thing that makes sense if he's quoting a book, like Dernie Austin. I'm going to say fake. I'm going to say fake, too. Fesles?

Fake. This is fake. This is a quote from Jay Robert Oppenheimer when talking about his discovery of the atomic bomb. Devil, makes sense. That's funny as hell. Oh, Bahamas.

Oh, Thanos. Yeah. Real? Nothing to do with Richard Robin. I become death. It's crazy. You're like, I think this is good. No, when we talked about it for that long,

thinking it would be Wembe. That's kind of crazy. Who do you think he is? I become death. Now I have become death. Buddy, you've got 48 minutes on the court. It's not that deep. You're not the destroyer of anything.

Yeah. You cannot disrespect the caterpillar while raving about the butterfly by Mark Jackson. Tough. That's true. This is real as hell. I feel like I've heard a lot of people say this. I'm gonna just say really. I think this is in his back too.

Facts, he's a pastor. I can definitely imagine him saying this and then the commercial song goes on. This is real. Mark Jackson did say this. When he said this? I don't know, probably TV. Generational.

Bobby 2015 or something. I don't know. He's come back, man. Commercial's about to go off. He says this. Nah, his second stint was okay. He's fine. Really?

Yeah. I need some more quotes. Mark Jackson's a lot of good quotes. Google Mark Jackson quotes to see more. Each time you light, your lighter, your lighter gets lighter. Until your ladder gets so light, it won't light. That's real. That's real.

That's real. I don't even know what this means. He don't even know what this means. This is real. I don't even think it's provocative. Yo, this is putting your mind in a blender right now. I can tell. The mind just shifts you through all the meanings.

He's got mashed peas up there Much of a baby food Baby food Brain is smooth Yeah, I'm getting cooked right now y'all Just out the mud podcast I'm gonna say it's real Because Lamello

He does like to talk like this Sometimes like remember the New Year's quote Where he was like new me New Year new me Seamito Yeah He uses a lot of the same words Back to back

He's word play I'm gonna say It might be fake. He might be trying to pull a fast on, but Lemelo, this is, this is his, his back. You can completely imagine this. This is actually hurting my brain. Why?

It makes sense. It doesn't? I read a lot of breaking down for us. Each time you liked your lighter. Yes. Your lighter gets lighter. Less fluid. It gets lighter.

Yeah. I just got that on. Until your lighter gets so. Oh. Yeah. There's no more fluid for that. shit. Yeah. That's a legit bar. Honestly, this might be too smart, so I'm

like, I don't know who has this in his bag. I'm gonna say real. I don't know. Gotta be real. It's too deep. I'm going fake. Yeah, exactly. This is not in his bag at all. This is the first thing you see. This is the first thing you see if you Google stoner thoughts. This is the first thing that comes up.

Stoner thought quotes. That's bad accurate. That's the first image. That's a mad accurate. I'm fine. But you can see the mellow ball seeing this. 110%. Did you see? There was a social media clip going on the other day.

Or it happened. I think it was supposed to like two weeks ago or whatever. And like the social media person for the Charlotte Hornets, she was like, oh, how many balls are in this, are in this jar right now? And then he took the jar, poured it all. He was like, none. I'm sorry, I got to do it to you. It was hilarious.

Did you guys see that? Yeah. Yeah. That shit was hilarious. None. And that's the last one. Oh, man. My little ball, man.

Yeah. I'm not trying. Yeah. I can see him being a part of that community. So it's like, that's why I thought that one was real. Yeah. Okay. Next thing we are going to do.

LeVarre probably hasten. Dude, I'm like, what in Levard? Like, what was your like school program? Like, they like, barbell bench and basketball. What was this school? What were y'all doing, man? Next thing, we are going to do today.

We have $1,500 of budget. A lot of. it to each of us. We have to see who can build the best NBA team with that budget. Beesolz is going to show us hints of a player is a mystery player. We have to decide how much do you want to bid on that player. Okay. In the commits of 100, right on the whiteboard, reveal it when we see the player and we see who gets that player. Okay. Yes. So we'll see all the hints and then spin the board and then we'll see who wins and gets the player. Gotcha. Wait, is B. Beesol's going to be like the rat 305, 45, 45, 45, 45, $5.50.

$5.55. It's a skill, man. All right. First hint. career average of 16.8 points per game. Let me put that zero on there right now. Okay. I'm gonna say, eh. Oh, I should say if none of us bid, B-Sold has to give it to a random person

because there's only 15 players. So it would be smart not to bid zero. Otherwise, if somebody else bid zero, you might just get flip up a coin and fucked. Okay, 16.8 point per game. All right, next. At least one all-star appearance. Ooh, that's moving me.

Okay. I almost had a bid, I got to go. 25 and under. 25 and under. Okay. $500 for five players. Make sure you distribute it well.

One last hint. One last hint. L perimeter defender. L perimeter defender. I was just about to up the price a little bit, but you're an L perimeter defender. Oh, L perimeter defender. Career average is 16 with 25 and under. It's not a lot of years.

Yeah. Okay. I got 50 for you. Increments to 100. Oh, it's 100. 100. Okay. All right, bet.

All right. Three, two, one. I got 100 for you. I got zero. I got 100. Okay. How do we do this? Okay, so how bad do we really want it?

What are you trying to do right now? This is where the war actually begins. Hey, I don't know why. You got him. He's all yours. Fuck it. Yeah, I'll take it. He's yours.

Who does he got? Who does he have? Let's go back here. I'll spend up like 120 on. Nope, you got him. You have? Sengoon. Ooh.

Okay. I kind of figured it was some election good. You could have Senguant good all you want. It could be worse. It's $100. I got an all-star on my team. It's cool. Yeah, yeah.

You keep that guy. He's all yours. Yeah, it's a five. It's cool. All right. That's not that bad. I could be, it could be way worse.

It could be way worse. I got my center for the future. I can, I can figure out a way to win with that. A men will not be starting right there. I can fix him. Exactly. Want to put him at center?

Yep. All yours, buddy. You think you're a magic guy? Not bad. You a wizard or something? All right. You ain't seen me coach yet. Next player.

Okay. Here we go. NBA champion. No, I put that 100 down. Okay. Career high of 45 points. Put that 200 down. Okay.

Okay. Fucking get her. Under a contract worth over 128 million. Good amount of money. Okay. Last hint. 26 years old. 26 years old

On a 20 Fuck, this can be anybody Y'all can have this I got a hundred down for him If he's free, I'll take him 100 is free to me I got 15, 14,100 to work with I'm kind of straight

26 years old Career high of 45 Now what I think we could do this I think you're probably good I'll bid a little bit All right here we go $300

$200, $200 I'm the lowest better I just do out of a hundred Okay So I just get some What do I got for $300? As it gets. There we go.

Yes, sir. You can do worse. He gets no, no. I don't know if you can right now. He gets no minutes. I'm going to put down. $300. $300.

Sure. Jordan Poole at our, damn it. Yeah, pool three. Okay. Take that E to a three. He didn't get no burn. That shit's crazy, right? Who would have thought?

No, I'm not going to lie. I think I can build a better defense with Jordan Poole at Auburn Shagoon. I mean, we've seen it before, but I can build a better team with Jordan Poole. Yeah, let me see you draft Dremont. I don't know if it's going to work out for you, buddy. It won't.

All right. Next, former MVP. I'm dropping a stack on him already. Scoring champion. Ooh. At one point. Could be this year. Athletic.

Controversal. Fuck it. I need them. 500 right now. Zero. You can have Russell Westbrook. He's all yours. Hold on, man.

Former MVP. You can't change. Controversial. He's all year. I never flipped mine. That's fine. That's all right. I never flip.

I never flip. All right. All right. All right. All right. You're supposed to flip on three. Nobody did that. Let's go ahead and do it.

I'm putting zero. Former MVP athletic country. Russell is all yours. It could be honest. Moe. You get. Russell Westwood It could be honest

I thought it was yonis You know the call she thing and all that You put 500 Oh my god I was been against no one bro Fuck I could have literally Bounce back off of you

Fuck Spent 600 $600 fuck man Russ and Tsangoon at 2026 Scary sights Fuck I spent 600 already Let's see his team

Russ Sangu $900 left for three spots Y'am bad at budgeting bro Fuck. Donovan, no players yet. No players. Better start to spend it.

I'll get there. You'll get there. All right. Next. Next player. Former D.P.O.I. Okay. Five-time All-Star.

Okay. Not Mark is Mark and Dunn college player. Oh. Is it all current players or is it all time too? All current players. Okay. Former D.P.O.I. Is that the last hit?

Yeah, that's the last hit. Not a one-in-done. college player. But five alls are is a lot. Five time or five time plus. Five time plus. Could be more,

could be less. No. They're playing right now. Minimum five. Um. Could be more. I'm trying. My bad.

We say a lot. It's cool. Oh. Ah. I sent 300 Jordan Poole. Yeah. All right. I got my number.

Okay. Five time also. You're clearly good. But to my people wash, who knows? I got it. Okay, let's do it. Actually, you know what? Fuck it.

Three, two, one. 300, 200, 200, 400. Woo. This better be somebody good. I think it's Kauai. I was thinking Kauai, are you honest. This is Dremong, okay.

Okay, okay. Yeah. I got Dremong Green. Let's see what happens. Pool going to hate his life for us. Fuck. You just got my lips. Yeah.

I'm at locker room culture. Listen, if you can build the 2022 Warriors, you got it. Here we go. Here we go. You got it. It's going to be a pricey team, but I can make something happen. How much did you put down? 400. 400.

I got a hand to left. Yeah, I know. But, hey, listen, I got a DPOI. Yeah, true, true. I got something. He's locking Shangoon's ass up. All right. And also pool, too.

Next player, next player. Traded on draft night. Don't care about that. I like this. I like this. I like this. like this. Why?

Not American player. Not American player. Shifty. Shifty, not Americans. Not buff. Skinny, shifty guy. Not buff. Ooh.

Okay. I think this is a good player. I think it's a good player too. Wait a minute. The buff line is going to fuck me up here. Not buff. Not buff. I'm going two ways here.

This could be really good or really bad. I don't know what buff means to you. I'm trying to figure out who got. Now the trade on draft night is trying to, I'm trying to think about that. For the non-Americans? Oh, man, this could be one or two ways. All right, I got my number.

This is pivotal. Yeah. Got my number. Okay. Go. Here we go. Three, two, one. Flip.

400. 200. I got 200. Is this Shay? Mo, you get SG. See, so I'm like, oh, shit. Buff threw me off because I'm like, he's muscular, but like, that's an old picture.

Like, he's kind of buff. Okay, bro, I spent $1,000 already. Holy shit. We're 100. Damn, man. I knew it would be Shay, but I was scared. Okay. So, Shay's not buff?

He's wiry. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough because he's muscular but not buff. All right. Fuck, man. Let's keep going. Let's keep going.

I got $500. Nobody. You got nobody. I got role players. I'm, man, you're bad betters, right? Fourth overall pick. No, I'm not taking him.

23 years old. Agnes and quick math. Athletic wing. Recently locked into a massive long-term extension. Massive long-term extension. We're going to go here. I think I got it. Yeah.

I think I know exactly who this is. Yeah, I think I know. It's only only one person. Three, two, one. $1.00. I got $200. Is it not Jabari Smith, Jr.? I thought this was, um, Scotty.

You get hit. Ooh, Patrick Williams. Recently? Yeah. Like the last two years. They did sign him, re-sign him. He's only 23. I don't know if it's.

Two years is recent. Fair. He's only 23 years old. Damn. I thought it was Jabari Smith. You got $400 and Patrick Williams. God. To be the face of your friend.

tries P. Will. Ooh, man. Oh my God. That's kind of nasty. You shot your local. It's the worst time possible. That is so tough. Tough, tough.

Donovan has a feel to be on the Patrick Williams side. I hate it. I don't like it. He's like it can't be. I swear it was Jabari Smith Jr. Even then, I would have been comfortable with 400 for Jabari. Yeah. I feel like normally talks about Patrick Williams ever.

I know. Our next player, average 19.7. points per game over a 329 game stretch. What? That's so specific. It's a hint. He is ass, bro. It's a hint. Makes over $24 million a

year. Okay. Has one of the funniest tweets. Okay. Unethical Hooper. Ooh. Okay, got to be youngish. Makes over 24 a year. I know exactly who this is.

You do? I know exactly who this is. I don't know who this is. I'm going to throw out a bit just because of you. Who had a funny, one of the funniest tweets like this year or ever? Oh, ever. Ever. Shit, who had a, who had some bangers?

Who had some bangers recently? All right, Teddibetton. Oh, man. I'm, uh, all right. We're, we're going to do this. Sure. Three, two, one, 100. I switched up last one,

I went to pump fakes. I said 100. Cheater. Zero. Is this terrible? Sure. Wait, they got to keep betting. Huh?

They got to keep betting, right? Oh, yeah. Do we? We didn't, neither was one of them. So now what? Well, you both have 100. So when you have to up your bet? We're not up your bet.

What are y'all got up it? All right. Then Beesot's pick. Yeah, you got to pick. Yeah. Donovan, you need more players. Yeah. That's a good.

Maybe the default should be who has all these players. That could be a way to make it. Fair. Yeah. Is it Terros? You got a team full of scammers, man. Listen, that course, going to be cooking, right. I have a scam for M's.

Sweet. Todd of his team is crazy. It's crazy in the worst way possible. Patrick Williams. Patrick Williams and Pat. Patrick Williams and Terry was here. For 200. Oh, my God.

No, for 100. 100. 100. No, Robby. Okay, okay, okay. All right. This is what the teams is looking like so far. Oh.

All right, let's do it. Y'all go stop playing around. All right, next player. Here we go. I got Jordan pool and Draymond, man. You got to start catching your bets, right? Former MVP candidate. I knew Shay, I'm so stupid.

Former MVP candidate. Okay. Elite bag. Plays in the East. Erica Badu. Okay. I don't know what this means. Erico Badoop.

I know exactly what it is. I'm out of the loop. It's baffling. You don't know what this means? Yeah, she is crazy. Fuck it, man. Dorel wants to play? That's what I'm saying.

I don't know. You guys are giving me clues. I don't know. He's like good. I don't know if I want him or not. But my team construction. I got Pat. I got to get somebody.

I got to get somebody. But this is the most I'll do. I know. I don't want him. We got it. $0. This is. Yeah.

Playoff. P. Drop 28 last night. You got to get somebody. You got to get somebody. Okay. You got Pat and Rozier. You need some bodies.

Fuck, man. Okay. Playoff P. You're small forward. Playoff P. Listen, man. If I get some stars, we can,

we can work. You're in a good position right now. You got a little bit of infrastructure here. You have Rosier, Paul George, Patrick, Patrick Williams. I also Westbroke. I need wedding. I know.

I need anything. Jordan Pool and Dramon. You got to start spending. Yeah, somebody so frugal. We don't even know if my team's good or bad yet. Like, you can be horrible or really good. Two players, eight hundred, three players, eight hundred. You're out of spending, though.

Yeah, I'm splurging. You should have the SGA won't smart. I'm not mad at myself for that. Tough. Next player. If I had SGA, PG, I could definitely. Tough. Sustain Patrick Williams.

Sustain Patrick Williams. I could board Patrick Williams. All right, next player has a signature shoe. Only three hands for this one. Everybody has one now. Olympic gold medalist Oh Okay

South Well Dan What does that do for me Tell about What are you counting as the South You know Whatever you think my knowledge is Yeah

Which is It or miss sometimes Fuck it man Okay Fuck it Fuck it Get your bids in You ready

No Let's go here I'm just gonna take a shot Three, two, one. $300. $300. $500. $500.

We put $500. $500. Wow. It is Anthony Edwards. Let's go. See, when I knew it's an all-star the first time I should have did it, I'm pulling the trigger. Wow. I spent $500 on Russ.

Fuck, good. Oh, thank God. Yo, this is going to be the best locker room of all time that you're cooking right now. Yo, Aunt Dremont and Poole, he's going to be recording the fights. Just big in each other up. This is crazy. But my team's making sense now. If I get a good big man, I'm in there.

Okay. All right. You got $300 left? I got to be frugal. I got to play the margins. I got to play the margins. Damn. All right.

Here we go. Has a sibling who hangs out with streamers? Oh, hell. Had an altercation with a fan this year. Huh? Career 39% from three. Average 19 plus points per game for an eight year time span. A sibling who had,

hangs out with streamers. I was like, Jontay Porter? Ah, man. Alteration with a fan this year. 19 for 8 plus years. Bucket. Sibling hangs out with streamers.

Damn, I don't know who this is. I'm not tapped into the streaming game. Same. I am. I know. Sibling, he's out of streamers. Alteration with a fan this year. What kind of altercation?

That happens all the times. I don't know. 39% from three. Let me, let me say, no hands were thrown into altercation if that. I kind of figured, we'd know about that. I kind of figured it was like arguing some way. Okay, I'm scared.

I'm all going to laugh. Oh, wait, has a sibling, he's over streamers. I have no idea who this is. No, I don't know. Streamers throws me off. I don't know. Three, two, one. 100, 100.

Zero. Y'all got them. Whoever this may be. All right. Zach Levine. Oh. Oh. Crazy.

You're going deep into the weeds. More has fewer players than me. You're going deep into the week. Hey, let him decide, man. Let him decide. What? Should we do? who has fewer players? Is that warfare?

I don't know. Let the same amount of players. Never mind. Okay. I think we should default to that. That makes sense. But now when it's tired, what do we default to? Maybe who has more money? Nah. Be so you pick. It's up to you, man. You just would rather Beeslesville.

Of course, you would. Let me give it a mo, man. I'm going to give it a mo. Or should we do? Who needs a position? No, he already gave him the mo. All right. I put him at the three. I got a lot of shooting around Shangoon and Rusto. So.

no you don't Zach Levine is a 40% 3 points you got a shooter around him a high volume 3 point shooter I'll be fine Around Russ SGA isn't out the ball Russ is gonna be space in the floor

Yeah It's not bad I need an absolute lure at the 4 though Next player Meme player Okay we got a jokester Lebrough LeBron

Great defender Great meme Kadenum Kedem Ooh Okay we are going I think

okay there's a few nm there's a few nm which one might be three two one three hundred dollars I think this is my last wow we all did $300 yeah I can't go

anymore which is the end of my money too I'm gonna give it a Donovan because he needs more players damn it it's Scotty Barnes isn't it Scotty Barnes fuck damn it does he even need more players than I do is that even true I don't know

I spent all my melody. It's not even true. It's okay. We're playing Scotty at Small Ball 5. This is, I need a star at the two. Damn, man. Scotty would have made my team come together. I need a star at the two.

Yo, your team would have been comical Barnes, pool, Edwards and Jermon. The locker room is a place. We always talk about and she'll play with Scottie Barnes and work for each other. I was like, I got to go all in. I'll take a free center. Who cares?

Yeah. Damn. Okay. Next, next, next. Here we go. Explosive. Okay, my favorite type. Signature shoe athlete.

Oh, God, everybody is. Elite highlight rule. It's going to be some bullshit. There's only three hints. This could be anything. This can be Michael Jordan or it could be like Lanks and Gallowin. You know what? I don't care about my team.

I don't care about nothing. He don't care about his life right now. Y'all put your stuff down. I'm putting five hundred up with this player like this. You're not bidding you get to know. I'll put three. You got it though. That's my last player.

Okay. He's splurred. He wants explosive to This is John Morant Oh, okay Your team doesn't make sense Fuck put John at the one

Paterozy at the two Paul George is the three This is the most like Yo This is disgusting To you're not gonna lie Your team's ridiculous Just the worst influences

Outside of Scotty Barnes That's a 34 win team Yo man With two all-stars They could teach you some things though That's a horrible team Rosier and Morant together Oh buddy

Right to me I got Rosie and Pat Will, man. Moni's two more players. I need one. I need two more players. I'm out.

You only have $300 though. Yeah. Ooh. You have to know. You have to know. Sometimes you just got to end your misery. He said 500. Fuck it.

He didn't have to do that. You could have got like Wembeen to save your life. Watch what you come up. I know. Next. I don't care. Former MVP. Okay.

L defender. Fuck. Career 22 point per game score. Hmm. was not an all-star till year four L defender is kind of throwing me in

for a loop a little bit year four but you're a former MVP you're also at this point you have one position left you kind of got to decide if you want them or not exactly

exactly career 22 player game score um not he's an insanely put everything down I need two players though who cares yeah he can't

yeah what I want for the deal I have filled four. Yeah. It's gonna be pot the balloon all over again. I don't want this lawyer. I'm cool.

100. I figure he wouldn't want him because he needs a power forward. Is this step? Please tell me a Steph Curry. It's Nicole Yolkich. Oh. Uh,

I deserve it all. Yokets. Oh my God. Yokin's Dream on again. Oh, man. I deserve it all. I could have. That's insane.

Uh, Jordan Poole. Anthony Edwards. Dramon Green, Nicole Yokich. Okay. You have $200 left. I have $300 left. Damn, bro.

We're flipping a corner for the last two players. Wimby saved me. Basically, you decide this next player. You can have them if you want. I get more money to me. So it's really up to you. You hold the cards now. Money spread the fuck out of you if this is the right player.

Interesting dynamic we have here. Down to the wire. Known for shot blocking. Fuck it. 10 plus years in the league. Unfuck it. Oh, this is Gobert. Constantly in trade rumors.

Oh. Has a 100 plus million dollar contract. No, hell no. Zero. I don't want him. Nope. Nope.

No. We reached an impasse. No. Zero. I don't want him. Nope. What the fuck happened here? I'm true.

I'm cool. Nope. I think I know who this is. You know what this is? I think this is Miles Turner. Ah. I feel like this is Miles Turner. Let me look at the roster.

You all both need one? Yeah. Miles Turner would be the worst. What do you do? The next person, yes, he's the last player. I'll pick. I'll pick right now

I won't even I'll just decide right now we should rock paper scissors actually if neither one of us want them and it's even this is rock paper scissors

okay go ahead if there's no clear tie breaker that be sold some pick let's do it just one time rocked

a bit scissors shoot just one time not best of three on shoot all right let's do it rock paper scissors shoot take them it's all yours

I got rock mow got scissors for audio listeners who's this master he knew it he knew it I said $0,

bro, I didn't want him with my team. He's still gone. Now, I could do worse. These two, like, I could do worse. It makes a little bit of sense. Yeah, I could do worse.

I like this. Who is my last player? One player left. My 200 bucks. Who we got? Your last player. Yolkich saved you. Let's see the hints.

I think Yoke could save the fuck out of me. Get sniped. All right. Former Steals leader. Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler. Dated a recognizable. I, recognizable IG model.

Uh, I don't know. You should be straight, I think. Regardless. IG model is now married to an NFL player Damn Okay

Have played for three teams Oh Who's the guess Bryce Young? Oh What's the guess? Has played for three teams Nope

This is not Yeah No Not the one of Bryce Young No Is he said What the Bridget model? Not married to

I'm just talking I don't know who's married I had no fucking clue Stills later to play for three teams She'd be a brother For more than three teams Darren Fox was a still leader at one point

You know this is? Okay Who plays? Yeah, I have no clue Who steals leaders The three teams This is Dejante Murray

Oh, okay Wait, NFL player? Yes She is? That was a nose ball Who's his ex with? Nasty man Deshawn Watson?

Yes, wait, Oh yeah, Janice, whatever her name is. Oh, yeah But you got a good team in Yeah, they go together, bad Somebody married

Deshawn Watson? Yeah. Yeah. She was stuck by her man too. Oh my God. Because they started, they started dating up like right after the stuff. And she stayed home? Stayed. Well, he already got the contract.

Yeah. He already gotten it. She was up there. Fighting. That's crazy. You stay away from my man. Leave alone. So I, Friday listeners.

My final team. Jordan Poole, Dejante Murray, Anthony Edwards, Draymond Green, Nicole Yokic. I got Russ. Shea. Exactly. Why are you laughing? I got Turner and Shangoon. Say your team, please.

Me. I have John Morant, Terry Rozier, Paul George, Patrick Williams, and Scotty Barnes. Good grief. Yeah, as you've done, we got the most. God. I could have had Yolk until I would have spent my last man. You could have MVP, like a save bet. Russ is only washed up one in the league right now.

You really should put more money down. I said 500 for Russ. I said 500 for Russ. What was going on? What was he? I thought I saw Janice, though. It was clearly Rust. Donovan put $400 for Pat Will.

I needed somebody. I was mad. That's true. You were angry better. You better emotionally? Not even. I forgot what it was. I thought Patrick Williams was Scotty Barnes.

Oh, yeah, true. You did. Yeah. I got $300 for Jordan Bull. I knew that was fucking Miles Turner, too. He got Yolkes for $100. I know. Ultimate bargain.

Everything good comes around. That's insane. All right. That's the end of that. Next thing we are going to do. what did I write down? What's next? I can't remember on top of my head.

I'm so bad at these like clues at these glue games. How do you cook yourself? Were you too fru or what? Patrick Williams? Patrick Williams? The Rozier. Yeah, the Rozier one was the real one.

Yeah. Because I could probably live with just one bad spot, but. Yeah. Next thing we're going to do, we're pretty far into the NBA season now. I think we kind of know the story of this year. We got to pick who has been the best NBA player

in the league at every position for just this season. Okay. Point guard two center. Who holds the crown for the 2026 season and this season alone? Okay.

Point guard. Oh. The hardest one immediately. Are we putting Shay at two just to make this easy? No. It's being hard. I'll put Shay.

Then Shae? The MVP. Yeah, Shay's the MVP. I mean, shout out what Luke Dodgers has been doing as of late. There's no one caught that too. What?

They just be letting shit slide. What happened? Man, leave me alone, man. Don't talk to me neither, y'all, right? I didn't catch it. leave me on. I missed it.

Their ears are, they work, they choose when to and when to not work. That's crazy. Luca is damn close. Lucas is going to be the best nub of this list. Shea gets me too, he's going back to back MVP for a reason. Yeah,

it's a conversation, tough one, but you say. It's a conversation that's incredibly hard, but we know the answer. It's not a conversation. All right. Shea right now is at the peak

of like all time stuff. Best point in the world. Yeah, so it's not. Shooting guard. I guess we go, yeah. Nobody's really challenging. at least you want to consider jaylam brown a shooting guard

then we can have conversations. Nah, nah, yeah. Would J.B.B. B.S. small Ford? Yeah. I mean, he's Disney right now. He starts at two, doesn't he? Because I think they start Derek White and paying pictures off the bench. They start, like, Howser, three? I should know this. And now just Tate is back. I think he's playing to. I think they're usually having paid pressure off the bench.

Yeah. Either way. I'm playing A. Over Jalen Brown. Yeah. 100%. If we, regardless of where we counted, Ant really took the crowd for best shooting guard in the league a couple years ago. Right now, he's maintaining it he got better this year almost averaging 30 sorry sorry jaylon brown might be first time all NBA but not over it

not over rant yeah small forward Jason Tatum's hurt if we counted Janeland Brown is a two I guess we could cheat him at 3 2 plays a little bit of both this is kind of nasty coming into it that's what I thought we were going to do I thought we were going to put Jalen Brown at 3 that's fine yes I got Jalen Brown at 3 he has to go somewhere I think it's but Katie's up for discussion too one of us had Katie I think you had Katie above Jalen Brown I'm taking Jalen Brown. Offensively. Over KD this year. This this year, Jane and Brown's been better. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. Yeah, we could do J.B.

What's he listed at? So ESPN lists him as a guard. And Basso reference lists him as a small forward. So up to us at our discretion. He's a wing. He's a wing. He plays balls. We can put Jaylon Brown small forward and recognize what he's done this season. Yeah. That's cool. How to give you at least one Celtic? No more less goals. We might have to change our mind. No, no, no, no, don't too much outward excitement. Brown. Otherwise, I regret my decision. I bet. Yeah.

Power forward. Fuck. Who has been the best power forward in the league? I mean, Yonis is the best, but he's been hurt all years. So if you want to disqualify him.

Yeah. I kind of want to. I also think we should disqualify him for the stupid soap opera that he's put everybody through. Yeah. Now he's like having the PA sue his team. It's just always bullshit in the air.

Yeah, I don't like that. Is it Bam? Is it supposed to be your league, man? Bam. Hell no. He's a center. I mean, he's in conversation that he's not supposed to be in that. If he can get to 83,

he can do anything. He can be the best power. Nobody else in the league has even sniffed 83. Over the last 15 games, Palo is getting back in the convo, but the first 60 he was terrible, so maybe he doesn't deserve it for the year. Listen, Bam is an elite defender and has 83 points.

Please, he's not even sure. Zion's been healthy. Cat? Ben better. Is Katz-Zap. See, Akins are doing his thing on a terrible team. Y'all doing all this just not to name him. LeBron James.

The one, the only. We're putting Scotty. Jalen Johnson. Oh. Yeah. Okay, Scottie fell off offensively. You know what? We can go Jalen Johnson to power forward.

Unless you want to go LeBron. You, why would he want to go LeBron? We know he wants to go. Does Kevin Durantle the power forward? Uh, no, because they start Shangoon. Yeah, Jabari's starting so now. Okay. Yeah, Jabari's starting.

So is he either LeBron or Jalen Johnson. Lebron or Jalen Johnson. Where are we leading? We'll go Jalen. Come on, man. My vote is Jalen Johnson right now. You can go Jalen. Fuck it.

Jalen Johnson, best power for him to leave for this season because, Giannis has been hurt and dramatic. Center. Is there any argument for Victor Vibu Mnjama? There is. He's going to be second on my MVP back. Yokic got hurt. I had a little rough stretch to get back.

He's getting back to being at Yokish level. So he saw Yolkij. Wembe. Wembe's been arguably one of the best players in the world. I think with the ascension, I think... Two C two. Low key might be one seed. This year.

This year alone, Wembe has been better. Wembe season has been better than Yokish. He's had a better calendar regular season so far than Yokish. And that is why we have to be one seed. to go Wemby. Better two-way player. Way better. Wembe, the crowd is yours. You're here.

No longer the future is yours. You've arrived. Smokes Yoki's honestly. Okay. Well, maybe you've got to relax a little bit. I'm out voided, but now we're like, smokes Yolk.

I mean, he does things that Yokis can never dream of. Defensively? Oh, okay. Damn. It's Wemby thing. Okay. Okay. Next thing we are going to do.

Let's do that game we did again a couple weeks ago, where we have teams and we have categories of players and we have to try to ask can we have this player for the other person's category. Last time we did me and B.Soles together we can mix it up. We can do me and Mo first Donovan and B.Soles.

Right. So Donovan text B.Sol's a category of player that you want to try and guess and Moe I'll text you one. Last time... We're trying to get the category, right? Yeah, well, you're asking players in saying can we have that player

that does they fit our category until you can guess the category. Okay. Last time you guys did best handles. We did chubby players. Let's do awesome we did freaky players anything come to mind

I just texted you is there enough though got it there's probably not enough I mean I think if you've players who look like had something on there then I think okay okay let's do that

now we make a quick yeah let's do that okay you guys are your category mm-hmm okay me and Moe versus Donovan and Beasles it's actually split across the screen perfectly right now look at that

can we get LeBron James James. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Got LeBron early. Can we get Steph Curry? No. I mean, technically, you could. I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe technically, but, but if your reaches not that deep, then you can say, you probably shouldn't want to have Kerry. You probably wouldn't help you. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, can we have Chris Paul? No. No. You actually, you absolutely cannot have Chris Paul. No. Like, that's super no. Okay. Can we have Shaq? Yes. Yes. A LeBron and Shaq.

So we said yes to LeBron and Shaq? Yeah. Can we have Wemby? No. Hell not. That'd be real funny if you could have Wemby, though. I wish you could have Wembe. Yeah.

Not tall, not short. Okay. Sure. Take that away from that. Can we have Kevin Durant? No. No. Damn.

Two big guys, one skinny guy, noticing a pattern. Okay. Okay. Is it on me? Yeah, take a guess. Can we have Zion? No. No.

Nope. It wouldn't be good either. Yeah, I don't even want to see that. I don't want to see him in this category. Oh, you ask. Okay. So we got LeBron. We got Sack.

Could we have, could we have Rudy O'Bear? No. No. No. Okay. So it's not buff guys. Okay. Rudy Gau Bear's buff.

Okay. They're thinking about it a little bit. I'm thinking about a little bit. Nah. Okay. Can we get, are we asked Shay? We want to ask?

Have we asked it? Oh, we haven't asked, no. Can we get Shay? You cannot get Shay. Damn, bro. You guys have half of curry so far. Well, no, not like that. Well, I guess.

But I guess that works, too. Can we have Nicole Yokic No No yokets It's not a high BMI Okay Cool

Take a guess Can we get concanipple Fuck no you can get concaninple No you could never in a million You can't get the opposite of con canipple No I said you can get Mm-mm

Yeah you can have the opposite of concanipple No Can you give Vince Carter Smart turn That's the opposite of concanipple I guess No, I don't think that Vince Carter. Oh, crying. No, it's my turn.

Can we get Rajon Rondo? No. No. No. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So we should double up because you went Vince Carter. Can we get Jalen Duren? Yes. I'm noticing some things. Who do you guys have on the board so far?

Nobody. Damn. They have half of Steph Curry. We're going nowhere quickly. They have half of Curry's face. Half of Curry. Once you get one, the floodgates will open. All right.

Take your guess. Can we get Michael Jordan? No. No, you cannot get Michael Jordan. A little bit of a calmer, no. Sorry, unfortunate for you. Nope, you can get him. Can we get David Robinson?

Yeah. Okay, I'm starting to notice. I wonder what this might be. Can we get, can we get, can we get Blake Griffin No You cannot No yeah

I don't know Nope you can't get Blake Can we get Blake Can we get Blake Griffin Yes Yeah Walking these motherfuckers down Yeah you can't get Blake at all

Hell no you can't Set a double check real quick Double check Walking these guys down Okay okay Just to make sure though Half of Steph Curry What does that mean

yeah you guys really have nothing yet just to make sure okay if if I nail this then I think 100% know where we're going I should know I know already though what's their turn oh it's just turn like a little alright wait is the half of stuff curry like a really big end

no well he's in the beginning he said yes 10% of stuff carry counts but you probably don't know about it so it's like for you as you should know if you know you know about it wait can we get Dwight Howard I don't think so Dwight is a good I don't know.

Check. Yeah, let me check. I would not be surprised. I'll not be surprised at all. I could, I feel like I could snipe the mokey. No,

you cannot get, yeah, no, Dwight. Nope, no Dwight. Is this buff NBA players? It is.

What do you think we have? Is it players who have made a rap song? Yes. Yes. Yes. You sniped this shit. What the fuck. Thank God.

I just got it out there. Real currie laser. Yeah. That's crazy. ourselves he wanted curve the bullet to come fucking knock my head on we gave him too much of like that that's crazy wow wow okay and then a tie that's nuts what you go from here what's next what's what now what now yeah what y'all on the next thing we're gonna do we're gonna do a game of another a couple weeks ago a game of 20 questions tough with no basketball questions I did it with

con con con con canipal two weeks ago Donovan, it is your turn. Think of a player. We have to get your player in 20 questions. It's no basketball questions. Hi, Beasel, it's your time to carry. All right. Let's go.

You just fucking salute. You got a dojo? It's like the genie. Okay. Let's go. You know, that was racist, right? Is it? No.

I don't know. I was like, oh, man. I'm just kidding. My bad if it is. Oops. I'm crying. Is your NBA player bald? Yes.

Nice. Whoa, he's bald. Off rip. Damn. He didn't have a chance. It's not like he was bald for a minute. Let's go. Okay.

Is your player... Has your player made an All-Star team? Yes. Bald All-Star. Is your... Is your player charismatic? He got to be if he's bald. Fairly, yeah.

Fairly, okay. But like not 100%. Yeah, he's not like he's saying he's up the pocket full of sunshine. He's not like Shaq Charac Charismatic. be like somewhat. Okay, it's not Shaquille O'Neal, Bald All-Star. Okay.

Yeah, I give you that. Salute. Is he playing today? No. Actually, my bad. That's a basketball question. It's okay. It's a basketball question.

It's okay. It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Okay. Is this player in good shape? Wait, I forgot what you said. You said no or yes? To what? The question I just asked.

Is he playing today? No. Okay. I wasn't listening. Okay. Would you say your, your player is like, healthy for his age. Yes.

Like currently. Yes. Oh, he's in, there's a lot of players who like, don't play no more. They just say, fuck it. They don't be watching their diet, feeding hell of fried foods.

You seen Kyle out recently? He's still, he's in the place. All right, man. All right. Kyle, dude, he signed that deal with Amazon. I'm like,

why is he still playing? All right. All right. All right. So, what's that question? Um, is he on TV? Yes.

I know what this is. Wait, and he's bald? Is this player funny? Only kind of? Oh, I know who this is. I wouldn't think about it being fully. I think I got it.

I think I got it too. Okay. Let's keep asking more questions. I'll see if we can get sure. Okay. Has this player won an MVP before? No. No.

Oh, no. Mind. How you know what do you know? Don't know anymore. Okay. Oh, fuck. Wait, that's a NBA question. Fuck.

Is this player drippy? No. Does this player ride bikes? Ride bikes? Yeah. I don't think so. What does that mean? Does he ride by?

There's no famous recent picture of him running a bike? Mm-mm. Oh. Mm. Okay, back to square one. So you don't know what I'm talking about. Okay. Back to square one.

Does this player have like diverse income? Just get bags everywhere from anything. How many questions are at now? I think like eight? Yeah. Eight or nine. been in movies could have been like paid partnerships his his bags are they're diversified but he doesn't have some like insane portfolio okay okay

i was thinking reggie miller now he would know about the bike thing you guys dealt with that picture no oh he was in there one oh oh that's that's crazy he's more like a body suit riding a bike and just looking real happy go lucky yeah i almost thought that wasn't him i'm like why is he so smiley yeah he was so scary. Wait, just to clear my guess, do people say

that this player is on weight loss medication? No. You thought of Charles Barkley? Yeah. Is this guy

proudly reppping GLP ones? Okay, so it's not Reggie Miller, it's not Shaq, it's not Charles Barkley. He is on TV, but never won an MVP.

Do you think this guy to this day, actually said basketball question? We're at like 12 right now. Okay. Do you think this player has a good

relationship with every team he played for? Yes. Was it? No bridges. Okay. Can we only ask him a yes or no questions? Not necessarily. Does this player have a beard?

No. But if it's no, that's Vince Carter. I don't know. Sometimes he goes, he goes back and forth. Okay, then it's not Vince Carter. Let me double check real quick. Is Jason McGrady Ball? No, right?

No. No. I know who it could be though, actually, I think. Let me double up my question. Is this player left-handed? No. It's not Derek Fisher. Also, this guy does not have a beer.

Was this player alive in the civil rights era? We're kind of in the 60s. Was he alive? Is he live now? Was he alive in 1963? No. So it's not like Kareem. How would this player act around Taylor Rooks?

Regular. What the fuck? Opposed to what? Like a normal person? Gamey souls is in that bill. think. Oh my gosh. Regular around Taylor Road

doesn't give me a lot. Oh my gosh. I mean a lot of things. Okay. I don't even know where you're going with that. Bald guitar player, not an MVP, not Reggie Miller, not Kareem, not Charles Barkley, not Vince Carter.

And he's healthy, too. He would just say hi. How are you? Okay. That's a hit, though. That's a hint. He's not like overly old. He's not going to be like Steve Batch.

Is this player going to be a, uh, not that's a special question? Is this player... I lost track. Is he... I think they're like 15 right now. 15 or 16. Is he still around his like prior occupation?

Yes. He said he's on TV. Okay. I had to make sure he's like a coach or not. That's a for... Hmm. Damn. You good?

Oh, wait. Is this... Is this Kenny? No. Damn it. What? The only inside of the NBA guy we haven't whittled down. Does this player have more or less than one million followers on Instagram?

Less. Damn. Okay. Is he done as a husband bald? Two. No, he's not. No. Two questions.

Less than one million followers. He works in TV. That was asked, right? Yeah. He's a bald, former player. Not a MVP. No motion. Not an MVP.

Less than a million followers. This isn't like a superstar player. Regular round Taylor looks. I'm going to ask if this guy's like, fair skin or not. That's the only thing like... Okay, yeah, is this guy... Is this guy light skin?

A light skin black guy or lighter? Like, do you light skin or not? No, light skin or lighter? Yeah. You're right around that line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay.

Is he's a kid, right? No. No. Nobody would call he's a kid around that line. He's just light skin. You also have one question, though. Fuck. You're sure?

Wait, so what was your answer to that question? No, we've just been giving out questions. So from this point out, three questions. Okay. Fuck, we're cooked. Who did he say it's around that line? So he's teetering from light skin to not. And it's not Reggie Miller.

Wow. Yeah, it's not Reggie Miller. Like, if he went on vacation, he'd come back and he'd just be brown. Okay. One day in the sun, he's looking, not light skin. Yeah. Who's that player in media? Who's that dude who, um, he's always a late Lakers postgame show.

Oh, wait a minute. Is it Richard Jefferson? It's not. That's a good guess. Fuck. I thought Richard Jefferson. Jenny Fry? No, he's not bald.

He's not bald. He's not bald. Damn. It's not Richard Jeffers. Who else? Yeah, I don't know if this is. Yeah, it's not Perk has a beard. Yeah, it's not per KG.

No, no, no, no, no. KG is a dog. Yeah. Oh. Oh. He works in media. It works in TV specifically. Yeah.

Who works on Peacock? On Peacock. We never asked Vince Carter. You think he's Vince Carter? And he said he had a beard. Vince Carter never. No, I actually went back and I said, I checked it. I said, because sometimes he goes back and forth, but right now he doesn't have a beard.

Is this Vince Carter? It is Vince Carter. Okay. We knew so long ago. Fuck. What are we doing? When does he had a beard? He used to have a beard.

For like for a lot of years. Yeah. And then you asked to, he has a podcast now. So it's like, but that's kind of one of the only other things that he does. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

He has a podcast. I thought you were going to pick like that. someone was coaching for me. He made up with his former teams. He got his jersey retired. Yeah, I got, I kind of knew that's what you met. Mm-hmm. Okay.

I'll do one now. All right. All right, 20 questions. No basketball questions. Who am I thinking of? Okay. Is this player six, five, or above? No.

Is this player, would you let this player babysit your kids? Uh, see a good influence. Would I let him babysit my kids? I don't think I have a problem with it. but he wouldn't be somebody I'm like reaching out to. If he's around, you can watch him, I guess. They won't die. Okay.

So smaller guy under 6-4 or under 6-5. Does he prefer warmer weather or colder weather? I do not fucking know. I never met him. Does this player... Based off his career history. So it's no. You don't know.

I don't know. You know where he's from? Not to that. No. It's not so clear Like he's not like he's not like he's an L.A. boy or like that It's not super clear Okay

That's it right there Yeah not from L.A. There you go Okay Um Does this player care about How he dresses? Yeah probably I think so Okay

Yeah he's not he doesn't not care Would I call this player Is this guy still Uh Employed by the NBA? Yes You still employed? Okay.

Would you say that this guy is still like at the peak of his career? Probably not. Unfortunately, probably not. Okay, so he's still fine in his way. I suppose it's not over for sure. My hopes aren't high for the peak still being here. Okay. Paul George?

This is not Paul George. He certainly passes peak. Probably not. Does he have tattoos? I have no clue. I thought it was Paulo. Okay. Oh, no, under 6.5.

He's also not past the peekie for his career. Yeah. Maybe I am a hater. You are a hater. Yes, he has tattoos. Ah. This is got black? Yes, he is black. Is he mixed?

I don't know. Maybe it could be. Don't double check that real quick. That's important. Okay. Yeah, we need that. It's pivotal information. A lot of them are in the league.

Yes, he is mixed. Under 6-5. He has tattoos. Under 6.5? Yeah. Under 6.5. He has mixed. He has 10 questions.

And he's mixed. We're cooking. We're cooking so far. I'm not, you have everything you need already. I'm not going to lie. Is he light skin? Yes.

Yeah. What the fuck are you doing with our questions? Sometimes. No. I just need to make sure like how light he is. I guess so. He's like, fuck, man.

Um. Is your family, man? Can't be. I actually don't know who his family life is like, I don't think so. He might have a kid. I have no clue if he does or not, but I don't think he's like a family man. Not stuff. Do you think he would be like an elite dart throw or is he like an accurate person?

I think most NBA players be good at darts. No, fuck, no, they would not be. Rudy Goberer would be terrible at darts. All right, shit. Darts? Yeah, he's probably good at darts. Why not? Fuck it.

I'm good at darts. He might be good at darts. Who knows? I don't believe you. I'm bad at darts. See? That was a lot. What the fuck?

I mean, don't get a chance. I'll beat you. We'll put it to the test one day. Has this player... Would this player make a rap song? Yes. So me... Okay, so he's young.

Yes, he would. Okay, under 65. He would make one? I'm thinking, like... Has he made one? I think of Jerry McCain, but I think, I think you would really like to have Jeremy King like babysit you kid. What did you say?

Yeah. Has he made a rap song? Yes. Yes. He made a rap song. Yes, he has. He has made a rap song. Mixed dude made a rap song.

Come on. You should have it now. There's no reason you don't get this. If you don't get this, you're fired. Under 6.5, right? Yes. Under 6.5. You don't get this.

Throwing you out of a window. Has this player been transferred branches? I don't know what does that mean. There's no branches. Has he been trained? No sidestepping my questions about NBA. it might be Jared McCain I want to trip it

I think you would be more like 15 questions Why not? Yeah Do you want to just take the shot? Yeah Sure

Is it Jared McCain Nope bad guess Damn I said his career Might be on the Back end Okay this might be Curry then But

Yeah He has made a rap song Yeah So he's not a family man Ooh not a family man Not a family man Who's on the back of his career

I'm not sure for sure It might be. I'm not sure for sure. It might be looking spooky But it's not for sure cooked And he's mixed You have everything you need in front of you I gotta look at these teams man Under 65 Back into this career

He's mixed This is Trey Young This is Trey Young, there you go I told him he doesn't get it We're throwing you out of a window He should have known This is Trey Yon We're tossing him over the balcony

He's not at the back of this career man I don't know maybe I don't know man. He made a rap song. He did. He made a rap song with Cuevo. He just had the ad. He was in it.

And I know he didn't rap. He made it. He produced it. He made the song. Yeah. A&R. Yeah. A.

And R. Yeah. That's exactly what he did. Do we respect that? Is that a Tray Young song? Yes. 100%. Of course it counts.

You want 100% respect it. Yeah. He's getting publishing on it. You have to. Okay. He's receiving fees. Now that being said, that is in this episode.

If you're still here, comment how, comment, Comment, Comment, Comment, The building, man. Kinky Souls.

Yes. You take pride in that? Ah. This is what it is. I've got to it this point. I respect it. He doesn't run from it, that's from sure. Yeah.

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