The Deep 3 Podcast - We Ranked The Last 10 NBA Champions | Ep. 41

Episode Date: June 15, 2023

Today we rank the last 10 NBA champions and celebrate the Nuggets championship. #nba Check out Isaac's newest video: https://youtu.be/_Gm_KXEK4BQ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy today with promo code "TD3" to double your first deposit! ⬇️ https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-the-deep3 Join the TD3 Discord!: https://discord.gg/e63QYQYrVA Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- Nuggets are champs 4:29- Channel Announcements 5:55- Nuggets are champs 14:04- Where does Jokic rank all time? 23:55- Dissecting Jokic narratives 30:13- Is parity good for the NBA? 40:55- Is Jamal Murray a top 5 PG? 45:14- Last 10 NBA Champs Rankings 1:00:22- TikTok Segments Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Guys, after five years of being a Cola Yokic diehard, being an absolute stand, I can finally say that he is a world champion, he is a top five white man dead or alive. Yeah, man. He's gassing. Oh, man, what an achievement to look at the yokech. He's definitively taking the throne away from Luca Donchich as the best white in the NBA. We are out here. Oh, man.

Yokic is simply different, and I would say I stand corrected. I thought that the Denver Nuggets were going to get it done in six. And almost damn near looks like it, but they got it done in five. Shout out to Yolkich. Shout out to Jamal Murray. Shout out to Aaron Gordon. He was out on the streets of Denver in his basketball shorts with everyone literally outside. You love to see it, bro.

This is beautiful. He was looking like four is gone with the people running behind him. Get a seat on his back. Had the whole city with him. I'm crying. No, man. Shout out Denver. Listen, shout out Yokch's horses.

Because apparently he loves them more than the championship. He was stressed about. about getting back to Serbia to see them horses race man he's he's on top of that's hilarious so i love i love it he asks his PR lady yeah when is the parade she said it's Thursday he's like oh i don't want to go i don't want to be here i need to go home somebody please take me there i don't like he here he caught the red eyes coming back for the parade just so he can get one night with the horse oh 100 he's a horse boy yeah man for y'all who some who for everybody who somehow lives under a rock. The Denver Nuggets finished off the Miami Heat last night,

winning the NBA finals 4 to 1, and capping off a career-defining series for both Nicole Yokic, Jamal Murray, Michael Malone, really the entire Nuggets franchise, who honestly just set the bar for what it is to build a championship level team in the modern NBA. They showed that you don't have to chase stars, you don't have to make big splash trades to pair a second star with your MVP, you can build organically, you can build through the draft, and just overall be patient and make the right moves over time, trade for an Aaron Gordon, trade for a KCP, just figure out the exact type of role players you need around your unique star and let the team have time to develop. I feel like that's something we haven't seen for most championship level

teams in the past decade. So I think this would be a defining team for how a lot of franchises look at team building going forward. Yeah, I mean, if everybody can find a back-to-back MVP in the second round, like, you know, like that just makes everything so much easier, you know? that helps is no it's crazy it's crazy i i first off i was right i just want to listen everybody's always like oh you know i'm gonna let you know when i was wrong right i can stand up for myself i'm gonna let you know when i was right i told you i told you before the series that the nuggins were going to win in five the heat they just didn't have enough jimmy butler and we will get to jimmy butler slander later in the show at least at least for me at least for me but

shout out the nuggets met they from the start of the playoffs to to to to what whatever to, yeah, from the start of the players to what we saw last night, they played every single game and they showed up every single game, which I don't think can be said for literally every other team. Like every other team had days where they showed up and it just looked like they mailed it in. And the Nuggets who lost four games all postseason, they showed up every single game. They played crazy, right? They showed up every single game. They played hard. They looked like champions from the front to, from the front to end. And Yokic, Yokic looked like the most, unstoppable player that we have seen in probably like what five years like like i like i don't i don't think

i think the last time we saw somebody just that like oh my god what do i do was probably 2018 lebron and there's been amazing season since then right there's been awesome performances but to look at yokech look at the run that he had nearly averaging the triple double the entire postseason on sane efficiency, he is the best player alive, and he's the best player in the world, and he has that title moving forward, and it's 100% solidified. For sure, that conversation's over for the time being. As we see, we thought it was Janus before the season, and we see how fast a thing can change. We don't have, like, one of the best players of all time in LeBron to win it every year.

So for the time being, it's clear the Yokic. We'll see how long it holds onto it. And we're going to have a lot of time to talk to these big picture conversations and viewing him, Jamal Murray, and the team. in a all-time sense and comparing them to other teams as you guys see from the title we're comparing the Nuggets to the past 10 championship level teams we're gonna do that later in the video but before we get into all of that do some quick announcements as you guys see we're in it right now our merch is out we've been

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But yeah, man. That's enough self-promotion. Let's get these nuggets. Let's start with... Me at 5. Let's start with Yokic first. Let's start with Yolkis first. Donovan just alluded to it that this is an all-time finals run, right?

Like, this is up there with, like, Dirk, with whatever other 2016 LeBron, whatever all-time great run you want to talk about. This has to be up there, right? easily absolutely he is just one of those players especially at his peak powers when everyone around him is who's supposed to be there is there no wild injures or anything like that he is un schemable he's going to get his and always consistently put his team in the best position to win without even trying it feels like that's just like the type of game that he spreads and that's how we exactly like it's just like

Like, everything just feels so effortless and natural. And I think it's so fair to say that this dude has the best, just natural instincts in the NBA. You know, there's always some of the most best ever. Exactly. You know, he just has natural. It's like he was born to play basketball. But, you know, like, what that said, like he did. What that said, he doesn't like, wow anyone necessarily when it comes to his,

physical abilities. YWiles, yeah, definitely, especially Yawazir. You're the number one Yolkis standing. You're a much for him, absolutely, bro. Oh, my God. The way people will talk about LeBron, Kevin Durant, whoever else are, like, made in a lab to play basketball from a physical standpoint, he's made in a lab from a mental standpoint to play basketball.

The way he's able to diagnose things so quickly, the way he spins off of a post touch, sees a double team and immediately knows, lop, immediately knows, kick to the corner, floater, like, the speed in which he can diagnose a coverage is absurd. Like you said he makes it look effortless and that's completely facts I don't like people we're talking about this is an easy path to the finals for him And for the team in general because they played like an 8c to 7 C at 8 C whatever So lame

But I think I saw Dragonfly Jones on Twitter said it that Some teams have an easy path Some teams just make it look easy because they're so good and deal with teams that easily And I think it's the latter where they just They were a league above everybody else this year So it seems easy because nobody can make them sweat That these otherwise good teams just aren't on the same level Exactly. And when you go ahead and look at the competition that they faced the Minnesota Timberwolves and after that they faced the Phoenix Suns and they're talking about all like they faced the Lakers and the conference finals and they were what a seventh seed. This is not like the same Lakers team that we all saw laugh at that started out what two and ten at the beginning of the season. This Lakers team is elite. Austin Reeves has arrived. Anthony Davis being one of the best defensive players that we've seen over the last few years especially like has arrived.

Now, yes, LeBron is not the same, but he's still, like, top 15, 20 type good, even at this old hindered age. He had 40 in the closeout game. He was still LeBron. Exactly, you know. And so them steamrolling through the, I don't want to say steamrolling because every game was actually close, but them. They swept them. They swept them, but, like, it didn't feel like regards to the fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Lakers were actually good, dog. So anyone, it feels like, I don't know. why, but I feel like they're trying, people are trying to find any way to discredit Yokic and the Nukkah and the Denver Nuggets similar to how people try to how people would try to

not give Steph Curry any credit possible. Yeah. No, but like, for sure. But also at the same time, like, who cares, right? Because this is because this is what this is what you get for being the number one seed.

You get to go through the easiest path. You get to play the eight seed, right? You get to then play the four and the five seed. And then who's like, they should have played. If everything played out, they should have played the two seed in the conference finals. However, because you're the one seed, you get to go through two rounds to see if the number two seed gets knocked off. Like this is, these are the perks and these are the things that you get to hang your hat on if you take the regular season seriously, which. for sure with some other people don't right

this is what happens when everything clicks they were very healthy throughout the entire um throughout the entire series there was like there was honestly like a two week stretch where it was where you look at the nuggets and it was like hey like are they actually going to be able to do this like they're losing games weird like what's going on here but it ended up just being a random two weeks in march

because the NBA season is long and people have lapses but like this is this is what every team should should strive for And this should show every other team, hey, the stuff that happens from October to April, that stuff matters. Like, it means something to go out every single night and to try and win games and to not just be able to say, okay, we're just going to take this night off and we can make up for it later. You can. You can't. You can't do it. It doesn't work like that. And Denver reap the benefits of it. And if you can, it's hard. Yeah. And you can't have your app, you're probably needed to. Like, you can do that, but then you can't complain that your road's harder because it's, you know, you get, you can.

Yeah, what you pay for. And also, you said, like, who gives a shit because it's what they deserve. But also, they were not the betting favorites to beat the Sons. The Sons are the betting favorites. The narrative of going to Lakers series, the Lakers can beat them and do this upset. Like, people pretended the Nuggets weren't the favorites in these series. Or not even pretended. Sometimes the Sons, like, the Sons, like, we also thought the Sons have a good chance of winning.

I think I picked them in seven. So, like, you can't, on one hand, say the Nuggets should have lost these series and then be like, oh but that path was easy like clearly not clearly you just underestimated them and they're just so good they made it look easy despite what you thought going into the series exactly they're fantastic they're fantastic and it's Jamal murray Jamal murray throughout the entire playoffs he did and i think that he lived up to everything everything that we were saying about jimmy butler and oh my goodness like playoff jimmy is so different right he shows up every game he's a different level that kind of faded

as the playoffs went on. Jamal Murray got better as the playoffs went on. Jamal Murray was actually out here every single game dropping 15 in the fourth quarter when they needed. Average in 10 assists in the finals.

There's like two players who've ever averaged 20 and 10 in the finals, I think. I think I saw a tweet from like stat muse or something. And it was, yeah, it was Magic Johnson and Jamal Murray.

And that's it. I think it was four other players. It was Magic, LeBron, MJ, one other, maybe was Oscar Robertson and then Jamal Murray. So it's been like four or five total, and Jamal Murray's in there. That's nuts.

It's wild. And he's not even known as a passer either. Yeah. Like he's not even, the point is like, he's not a great passer. But the fact that he can make that his game when need be, because he's not a great, it looks like he's not a great passer because normally Yokch got that on lock. And Jamal Murray's role is to be more of a score. But as soon as he take away the passing of Yokic and he has to be scoring base, only average seven assists,

and they throw a lot of doubles at Jamal Murray to try to take his scoring element. Only average seven assists. And the best showcase of that was in game seven, or not my bad, not seven, on game four, back when they were in Miami. Yeah. And I came on this podcast last episode, and I was telling you, like, I knew Jamon Murray, of course, as a guard, Natch, you have to have some, a guard at his level specifically, too. You have to have some level of passing competency. And for the type of passes that he was throwing, I didn't even know he. had in his bag. And so that just shows, like you guys said, how we step things up on an entirely

different level. And now when we talk about Jamal Murray, you have to put them in completely different conversations, top 25 conversations. We're going to get to that for sure. Before we move on to Jamal Murray talks like that, I want to real quick go back to a question I asked of comparing this Yokic run to all-time great runs. So I guess we should make a little TikTok out of it. Actually, not make a TikTok out of it. But let's talk. about this because he averaged nearly triple double like donovan said he dropped like nine assists overall because he did a good job taking away his passing but 30 points 12 rebounds nine assists for an entire playoff run where you drop four total games and really never sweated you were

never trailing in a series at all I think the only team in the past 20 years to do that is the warriors you they never trailed in a series that's insane isn't this as good as dirks run is this better than dirks run better um his performance performance is better, but the competition isn't quite as good, which was insane for Dirk. That's what, that's what I'm, that's what I'm going to go to. I think, I'm going to, I'm going to give it to Dirk just because the path was crazy. Yeah. The path, the past, like for the people who don't remember.

They, so I forget, I forget who Dallas played in the first round, but in the second round, they end up sweeping the Lakers that, who were at the time, back-to-back champions. then they beat the baby thunder in five games and then they go and they beat the heat in in lebrons first year in miami and so in a single postseason dirk by himself with like an old with an aging jason kid j j jay bray and jason terry beats kevin durant russell westbrook lebrun dwayne wade and cobi yeah that's that's like it's peak of his power still cobi too like he hasn't fallen off yet yeah that's that's tough and dwayway hasn't fallen off yet either so like it's the best version of a lot of these guys that is true so i gotta rethink i guess i yeah so maybe you give the dirk there but this is better than obviously it's better than 2018 lebron lebron

lebron didn't win this better than the step curry years step curry had more help and like you know katy thing makes it awkward it's better than it's better than kawai because kawai he kind of he was hurt in the finals so he kind of slowed down a little bit compared like the first round where he was god it's better than yonis's run even though yonis dropped 50 in a game seven which is crazy or game six like what are the other runs all time i stuck up with this yokech run you would have to you would have to start going further back like the like 2001 shack is is yeah stuff like that's no but even even then like yeah yeah you know i think especially the the 2000 like 2000 shack is probably the one where Kobe has

hadn't yet ascended to where like equals it was a very clear one and two and even though it was like one and two kind of the whole time but like you you get what I'm trying to say to that yeah yeah yeah sure 2000 the shack you're probably there's there's obviously like take your pick of any michael jordan run that they had the first one right yeah course one was the hardest carry job hakeem in 94 they that's the one yeah that's the one yeah there's a there's a lot there's a lot that we can go down the list and compare it point is this is like in the conversation for top five whatever. Okay.

It's weird. There's a lot. We'll think about it a little bit more in the summer, but this is definitely, it's definitely top, top ten. I'll give you top ten. Easily. Yeah, so with that being said, Yokic, three-year peak, arguably one of the best offensive three-year peaks you've ever seen, results in two back-to-back MVPs, should have been

three, and now an all-time final performance, final MVP champion. so like there's just been a lot of talk where are you guys ranking joel there's been a lot of talk where are you guys ranking Nicole yokish all time now after this run see this this is an insane question that tears in my brain apart

because it's so hard you know because it's I still feel like he has so much more to do and so let's assume going forward he has the average rest of the career maybe no more just say no more chips but he continues on dominating until he's 33, so he has another six all-N-B-A teams

and just has what you'd expect from the rest of his career. Are we asking? I think he's above the KG, Charles Barkley, D. Wade, like, that range. I think he's above those guys now. I think he's in, like, the top 20. Wow. Okay, I will give you, I will give you Wade, and I will give you Berkeley,

the ones where I would start to say, like we're we really really have to have the conversation is KG KG on both ends is disgusting and if they Yeah but come on I'm Kate listen Prime KG's defense is is ridiculous And it's legit like It's a basketball breaking type of thing

And his his versatility I will put it there I will say though And so the KG thing is a conversation I don't I don't have the enough I don't have the precise number that I have yokeach at right now if he stays on this path though and we'll just keep it to current I want to know what you guys think would you put yokech over kd over kd

all times I think I would if he stays one assuming assuming one chip two MVPs the rest of the way but he still gets like the all-stars and the MVPs and we still see this like this level of passing are you taking him over here right now he's six time he's six time all NBA right now five of those are first team seven more of these seasons 12-time all-in-a with two MVP's in the all-time finals chip right you've got to assume we probably gets another MVP at some point maybe next year even I want I'm not going to assume the MVP stuff

because that stuff is wonky every year yeah okay so two MVP's we'll say 12 all MBAs it's gonna be close that's gonna be the ranger end which is like the low teens I think he'll be around there that'll be that'll be the conversation will be like the Hakeem KD then that that'll be the range where Yokh comes into around 12, 13, 14, 15. I think at the end of the day, I think I would take Yokch over Katie in that, if that, if that's the case. Katie has a lot of longevity and, like, he doesn't have the individual accomplishment of this finals run or that his peak as an MVP wasn't what Yokic's past two MVP's weren't, I don't think. But he is also still Katie.

Like, there is something to be said about, like, being one of the best talented players of all time that does hold weight. I get that. But if Yokch is also that at the same time. He also is too. Yeah. Yolich is like, dude, he's like an offensive Messiah. Like, we can have conversations later, but like his rankings, the all-time offensive players. Like, you're right. I don't know. What about him and Yonis? What do you think, Mo? Are you putting him above Yonis right now? Am I putting Yokic above Yonis right now? They have the same resume, basically.

Yeah, Janus is a defensive player at the year, too. Yeah, yeah, that's a difference. I think, this is a hard question, man. this is a hard question they're literally neck and neck and like isn't that cool yeah it is cool like we're talking about someone who was a 41st pick and was drafted during a taco bowl commercial bro

yes that is insane and yonnes was like a 13th pick like this are two fucking the players of this generation it looks like are these two European guys that were doubted and had one doubted more than the other but we're expected to be this and now they're like neck and neck and all the time standings

running with each other in the same type of resumes it's pretty cool I think they're two they're too close for me to make a decision right now and there's nothing that'll like lean or sway me either way donnava do you have any i think i think i would take yonis just because of the d p oi i think that right now like like as i was saying their resumes are fairly similar and for yonanus's finals for him to basically have a hyper extended knee and then come back in that same series Have the block that he had on DeAndre Aitin, which after LeBron's block is probably the best block in finals history. And then to score 50 in a closeout game, those two things hold a lot of weight for me.

So I think I would take him right now. People forget that block ended in a game ceiling lob, too, where he just fucking dunked all over Chris Ball. Yeah. And was that the same game where he hit like 15 or 16 free throws or something like that? Yeah, 16 of 18 free throws. Yeah, that was game six. Ice in his fucking veins. That was crazy.

Yeah. Yeah, man. Either way you slice it, Yowich is in his conversations. I think at minimum now, he secured his place in the top 20 players ever. Which is something to be said after.

He's only 26. Yeah. No, he's 28. He's 28. Oh, he's 28? Yeah, you saw some post that spread some propaganda the other day and it was comparing Joel and B

to Nicola Yokits and they said, oh, Joel and beat is 30. and Yokish is 26. No, he's 28 and Yoke and Joellen B is 29. Yeah, he's 28. No, no. I knew Yokin wasn't 30.

I knew that was a joke. I didn't know. Okay, yeah. Twitter is fucking hilarious, though. Just the way they... They're in the same draft. I thought about it. I was like, did fucking Joelle and B go to four years of college?

What the hell? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so Yok was just 28. So he probably has, like, five or six more years of dominance? No, I... Listen, he already... What's how he's playing?

He already plays, like, an old man. His game is getting like crazy. Yeah. See, that's a debate. See, that's always hard because you can say one, he doesn't need speed so he'll be good without it forever, but also the players like that have just enough speed and

they're more athleticism than you'd expect. So as soon as that goes, they go from just enough to not enough to be able to do this anymore. You know what I mean? I don't know where I heard it, but I heard someone say the other day, Yokitz was athletic somehow, some way. He is. That's a conversation.

like that's another thing people talking about is like defining athleticism because he's fucking wicked quick for someone that big strong as shit agile like there's something to be said about defining athleticism as more than running and jumping real high oh yeah absolutely i guess you can throw on this quickness too for his size and out like yeah i don't know i don't know i think there's when we talk about yokech's athleticism there's a lot of qualifiers that have to get put on it and i think once you is there i feel when you you're like, okay, well, he's, he's quick for 17 footy, he's quick for somebody that size. He's quick for somebody who, like, doesn't have this, doesn't have that. At a certain point, it's just, hey, it's just not, like, the upper echel line. He's not, like, a great athlete. Yeah, and I don't think that anybody he was saying that, but he's just not a great athlete. And it's okay. We don't have to, like, everybody doesn't have to have everything.

It is okay. No, I see what you mean where, like, he's good despite athleticism, which is, like, it's a perk of its own. But also, like, do you guys know about the P3 shit? No, tell you about it. There's a thing called P3, which is a training facility in Santa Barbara, that a lot of the draft process coming in, they do like really high-level testing to test their athleticisms, and they'll do stuff like,

there's really specific drills that aren't mainstream at all to gauge their lateral quickness and burst and like really specific stuff to test, like, true athleticism. A lot of players in the draft go through that so they can know what they need to work on, and they do that. And I think NBA teams buy this data from them too, so they can know like Amman Thompson is like a 99th percentile lateral quickness guy by doing these specific drills that really gauge yourself better than just like watching them play

and that's run by I forget who what the guy's name is but the guy from that runs that does all these high level athletes and they tested Yokic and saying like a lot of the things that you don't think about in these like quickness level things and like agility he tests on like the upper percentile of athleticism it's just not jumping high you know what I mean his postup turnarounds are fucking crazy that's one thing I will say Like that thing Catches me off guard Every single time

Like it gets me Every time Like how did he just do that And not get away with any Like bro what He had to have traveled No he didn't travel That foot is down

Damn Yeah But I think there is something To be what you're saying Where we don't have to pretend That he's yonis That like He's good in spite of it

Which is incredible It also brings us to a conversation But he's been another topic of discussion Which is definitely something I'll victory laugh about like Donovan was saying I'll let you know what I'm right because we've had the deal

with ungodly stupid-ass narratives for years about you can't win with a Nicola Yogish defense spam pick and rolls with an automatic bucket all because he couldn't defend Steph Curry in the playoffs

when his point of attack defender was Monty Morris or Will Barton Yeah, of course he can't defend that on his own He's not a fucking lockdown Akima Elijah one type but I think he's clearly like the level defender of a Steph Curry

where he's completely good enough to exist in a system and not Herschu's in any substantial way. He's not an elevating level of defensive player, but he has strengths and can exist in a certain scheme where he's completely fine. Yeah, he's cool. He's cool. There were some tweets coming into the playoffs where, and I feel back because I can't remember who tweeted. But there was some propaganda saying, like, Nicola Yokic allows the highest room percentage. Like the high shooting percentage at the rim. They were all the...

Kurt Goldsbury. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. Yes. He tweeted out. That cost... That was a big part of costing Yogish to MVP, that fucking ESPN story, about him

being just like, generationally bad rim defender, which nobody really thought anymore. He just apparently had the data to back it up. And it was so dumb, man. Yeah. Watching the Nuggets win that championship. And I was pushing for MB to win to win MVP the entire, the entire year. year watching the Nuggets win that championship I was like dang like we we should have given yoke into the MVP the whole crowd was chanted MVP and I'm like imagine imagine seeing if it was

a back to back to back MVP who finishes off the run the first time he gets help with a with a game five playoff win at home secures finals MVP secures the finals it would have been like a storybook ending and it's in that man Yeah, it just sucks. We kind of robbed ourselves. Yeah. We didn't rob ourselves. Kendrick Perkins robbed us.

And Kurt Goldsbury robbed us. And all these fucking dumb-ass ESPN merchants that wanted to drum up the argument just for, because it was boring to vote him three times in a row. So we had to give one to Joellen Beach because it was good for TV ratings. It was so dumb. I was going to go ahead and have a Nicola Yolkich fanboy riot tomorrow at Connecticut. Bristol, Connecticut. We won, Kendrick.

We won't catch you. It's not even a Yokish fandom thing for me. It's just like a, I hate stupid shit thing for me. I hate when narratives that take off that are just like anti-intellectual, it just bothers me because it's like, people buy into it so easily. And there's so much confirmation bias in sports. And it's just like, how was it still a thing? Like, did you see the show of Mad Dog on ESPN today where he listed his top contenders going into next year?

No, who do you put? he put the Warriors one the Nuggets 2 I forget I think the Lakers 3 the Kings 4 and the Thunder 5 Thunder 5 like the Oklahoma City Thunder not the Trenton Thunder I promise you was the O KC Thunder oh man okay why is this man on TV what is he's being doing that old man is washed he is washed he is past his prime he's geriatric

yeah besides the point but yeah it's just the power these type of narratives from these major outlets have is crazy and like you're saying we were robbed of a generational three-year peak it still is that right we're still everyone knows that he was the best player in the league for the third year so it's still going to age beautifully but it would have looked good on paper you're right yeah you know it feels so good I remember so throughout the playoffs to another super nasty narrative something a lot of people were talking about an NBA final specifically was like oh these playoffs are boring blah blah and yeah there may be a game or two

during the series that kind of wasn't that interesting or whatever but um i will say like over the last what five years we've witnessed like first time champions we got the of course the denver nuggets then i was in den nuggets there's Milwaukee bucks after Milwaukee bucks we got the who torn a raptors knows the lakers then the raptors knows raptors than the raptors no's Raptors and Lakers than Bucs? Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, exactly.

And seeing the sporadicness of the NBA and not, okay, like we were heavy in the trenches of like, okay, it's LeBron, LeBron, Spurs, okay, it's LeBron, LeBron, Warriors, Warriors, KD, KD. Like, this feels so refreshing and it feels even better to see teams like the Bucks, teams like the Denver Nuggets.

You could even throw in the Toronto Raptors, too, even though they're kind of frauds because it was like a one year type thing or whatever. Regardless of the fact, like... I mean, it's the same for the books. It's the same for the books. It's the same for the books. I just saw a tweet about this.

And they're not frauds because Kauai left. People act like they fell off because they started sucking. Kauai left. Like, they materially changed. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You're right. But seeing how they built, that stability is beautiful.

And I feel like they literally watched a king of the fourth quarter video and picked every single piece. perfectly. The Aaron Gordon trade is a masterful. You got a dude who is like really damn good at a lot of things on the court, but you ask him, hey, cut all the other shit out. Can you like play defense and like, you know, be a serious loft out for us and once in a while playmaking whenever we have our main guys out of the core, off the court and dribble and do little, little cool things, whatever. Cool. Then picking up Bruce Brown and then scooping up KCP and all that stuff. It's just masterful. And it's such a fresh breath of air. And I feel like the enviour.

landscape now is rejuvenated regardless of what everyone says, oh, this is boring. You just want to see LeBron, O'Brien, O'Brien, Curry, Curry, Katie, and all those other shit. Yeah. No, I think Donovan has a different opinion. We talked about it yesterday, actually. But I agree. It's cool because... I was... I was... Okay, real, real quick.

I was telling... Well, I said, you go first and I'll go. Okay. I agree to an extent, Mo. I think I cherish this time of parody because this always happens, between the reign of dominants of stars. It was the Jordan era, the Low Lakers area, and the Spurs for a little while, until we got to the LeBron era where he's running off these ships until the Warriors era. Like there's these dominant dynast for five and ten years, and in between when we're

in the limbo period, we have a period of parity where multiple teams can win. We see the pistons get one randomly. We see so-and-so get one. The rocket sneak into. So good. I'm glad we have this while at last. It's only going to last so long until we get one. Zion and Scoot Henderson

or whatever is going to be running off champions So I agree Okay So I was telling Isaac yesterday That and like you said So this is the first time in NBA history That in a five year period We've had five different champions

And I don't I don't mind the parody What I What I don't like is Or what I would like to see I want to see somebody go back to back Right. I just as, I think that it is just as fun to see sustained dominance, at least back to, at least back to back years as it is going five or six years in somebody different winning every single year. Like I, I look at everything that the Warriors were able to do. I look at what the heat were able to do at the start of the 2010s.

And it's like, it's really hard to go back to back. And we've had somebody do that every single decade because we've had like these dynasties and we've had these dynasties and we've had these. really great teams and for all these players who are you know we're talking about yonis and we're talking about yokech in top 20 top 25 conversations already i would like to see that for the for the resume right i want to see you yeah i want to see you be able to do it back to back years when you're in your prime when you have your whole team together and obviously like injuries have come back and i've come back and forth in the game and they change rosters and stuff but i don't i want that's all i want to see i want to see somebody go go back to back because i think that that is an underrated part of fun NBA stuff i think i just think that it's very cool to see people

at their best for a long time and you look up and you're like yo how long how long can you keep this going right like i think that was that was part of the fun of seeing the warriors win last year is like you guys were down and out for two years and we're able to come back use all of the championship like grit we know how to win and we're able to run through everybody and get the chip. And I just feel like that is something that is getting a little bit lost. And I think that the NBA and some of the mechanisms that they have are kind of pushing a type of parity. So it's not that I hate the fact that there's somebody different every year, but I want to see somebody win back to back. Yeah, well, two things. One, you're right. A lot of his injuries.

I'm pretty sure if injuries weren't a thing, which they always are, so you can't say that. But the Lakers would have won back to back in 2021. I'm pretty sure. if they said healthy. That team, when they first trade for Dennis Rotter, had Danny Green still, had Marcus Hall that year. I mean, but listen,

but if injuries were off, the Nets were winning that year. True. That's also possible. But the Lakers would win back to the finals. But that short and off season, fuck them.

And then last year, I think the bucks go back to back if Chris Middleton doesn't go out and Yannis isn't against his own against the Celtics, pushing the game seven by himself. So we still have those levels of teams. It's just been a couple

unlucky circumstances that didn't happen in previous. eras but also if you want to see a team of sustained excellence this Nuggets team is going to be the best chance we're going to see in a long time they better get it done MVP young in the middle was prime their second star star is 26 their rest of their players are all below 30 every substantive player that matters besides KCP is under 30 and under contract control for multiple years they're going to lose Bruce Brown but other than that their nucleus is going to stay intact and it's a team that all likes each other no chemistry issues for an office that's patient I think their

this team is primed to have sustained excellence for the next few years. It feels like the start of the Warriors Dynasty in that way. Wow. That's big. Not the same they're going to do that, but just in terms of they have the best player in the world with the perfect team around him of level of stars and role players and they're young and are going to be the same nucleus for four or five years. They're set up to be able to do that if things break right.

The stability is 110% there, and that's more so like the biggest thing. Now, of course, the only thing that could stop that is injuries and no one can control that like we said earlier um but yeah outside of them like i can't imagine anyone else like having the potential to do something like this anytime soon yeah you know it's all it's just a little bit outside of that like no worries 2024 25 train young will do that for you for the only okay okay we're gonna start that generation run no man hop in the top you you're you see the tray young news he's he's he's He's so cringy.

I hate that he said that. He just putting a big-ass target on his back. I mean, listen, no, he did it. Nobody was taking him seriously. There's no target on trade on his back. Someone, I saw a tweet that said, I'm taking this as a trade request. Yeah, and immediately I saw someone put a Lakers jersey over that tweet.

Oh, man. You saw the report. The Pelicans are trying to trade for Scoo Henderson, trying to get the number two or three pick. I love that. Zonin stays healthy. Him and Scoo Henderson. All I'm saying, that's the best rim-scoring duo of all time.

I love that. They have all these assets sitting for no reason, and if they were going to do this, hey, it's time to go ahead and swindle the Charlotte Hornets because it looks like they don't have any real interest in picking up potentially to school Henderson and whatnot. They will love Brandon Ingram. They're going to love him so much.

He's going to be perfect for him. It's going to be great. They're going to love him. The vibes will be immaculate in that locker room. Absolutely. Listen, they want Brandon Miller? they want Brandon Miller, just get the good Renan Miller. The person you want Brandon Miller to become,

let's go get them. Exactly, bro. Perfect. Just give Scoot to the Pelicans. I need it personally as a big Zion Williamson fan. Yeah, exactly. The setup is so, so beautiful, bro. They have a boatload of picks, and I don't, like, I think a couple weeks ago, or not a couple weeks ago, a couple months ago where I think Zion was killing it

for the Pelicans, and they were, what, number one seed in the West, which is crazy to think about, bro. NBA season is over. Wow. And then that big boy, hamstring went haywire Yeah Yeah, exactly He went haywire

And then his life went downward spiral Talking all these Anyways, regardless of facts I'm My next YouTube video is me about him I'm putting out next week That's fire By Zion

It's gonna be hilarious They better go ahead and have him post notice on for you, Isaac For real for real But we were talking about What NBA Star Would make the moke sense For someone to put For Zion Williamson

and I think you might as well cash into someone who's ultra young like Scoot Henderson because if you don't want to bring in someone like terrible fit, not a terrible fit, but not a great fit, Carinthony Towns or a Damien Lood or anything crazies like that because there's a timeline and you'd have to have expectations for Zion Williamson to be ready to go in that moment and it hasn't shown or proven that whatsoever. So cashing in on someone like Scoot would be amazing or any. It also makes them not reliant on Zion anymore. like that if his injury luck doesn't pan out ever

they can be on scoot's time line he's that caliber player we think obviously you never know how pans out with prospects but it gives them an opportunity to turn a new leaf if things go haywire with the zion situation shit that might fuck around and trade zion for scooer henderson like we that would be insane

that would be insane i wouldn't expect that i think that'd be a little stupid but listen they have more medical information than we do about zion wilmson so it wouldn't be the most surprising thing if it happened but I think it would be stupid so let's hope they don't do that's a bad move yeah it'd be dumb

too soon but going back to the team at hand where are you guys ranking Jamal Murray at this moment Jamal Murray? Among point guards let's go there is he a top 10 point guard top 10 point guard yes without thinking about it

he's top 10 point guard is he pushing top 5 man after that performance that's tough okay Steph Curry Luca Donchich No

Damian Lillard No Jaumarantz Conversation You have to have a conversation That's probably It's still jaw Are we kind of

She's a point guard We'll say that She's still better That's five Who's after Shea You're taking Jamal Maria and Trey Young Ooh

Uh man With the way Jamal Marie is playing defense against Whatever version of Jimmy Bullard that we saw look like the Stanley Johnson Jimmy Boehler version. Regardless of the facts, it was pretty damn good.

Personally, I'm still taking Trey Young. We had these exact same conversations two years ago back in the bubble, and that wasn't holding any weight whatsoever, so I'm still taking Trey Young over him. Okay, we'll give it to Trey Young. That's six. All right. Tyree? I'm giving it to Jamal, I think.

Wait, am I giving it to Jamal? Okay, we're not talking who you have to build around. Kyrie's a nutcase. We don't want to build her on Kyrie. But in terms of being a good player, Kyrie's probably still better. I think Kyrie has gotten himself into a situation where he's a little bit underrated now.

It depends what you're talking to. He's also still overrated by some people. I'm still taking Kyrie. Yeah, Kyrie is the seventh best point guard in the league. Kyrie's still at least number seven. He's probably still better than Trey Young, too. He's number six. Actually, that's seven point guards.

Halliburton? Oh, that's a tough one. I think I, Tyrone. That's hard as fuck. Tyrese versus Jamal. Listen, we have to change topics because it's going to sound like we're disrespecting Jamal the day after he won the finals. Yeah. The more we keep going.

We're going to mess around and get out of 10. That's top 10. Deerrin Fox? That's hard. Deerrin was just snapping, bro. I might have to take Jamal Marie out of respect for what he did. I think it's a respect factor for me. I'm taking him over.

Okay. Darius Garland? Yes. Guys, next segment. We're disrespecting Jamal. This sit, it took a turn. Brenson? I think I'll take Jamal. I think I'll take Jamal.

Okay. Drew Holiday? I'll take Jamal. Yeah. Okay. So at worst, he's like eighth. At best, he's like seventh or sixth. So that's cool.

I don't know. I don't think I'm forgetting him. else that we need to bring up in the conversation yeah not relevant right now I don't think anyone else is yeah Chris Paul fell off we cut we cut in James Harden as a point guard yeah but Jamal Murray or James Hardin in the playoffs give me Jamal Murray one of the biggest fucking playoff riders versus one of the someone like James Hardin I'm good on it yeah yeah for sure give me give me that's difficult because he's nothing hard in but like that's no yeah but you you've seen

his movies you know what he's about okay so more of the story is joel marie is a top 10 point guard yes despite not being an all-star which is crazy but not not top five yet we'll see if he keeps making leaps but top 10 point guard man that's from someone who thought his leg was gonna fall off last year and thought he's gonna be traded because his damage goods so dramatic top 10 point guards pretty cool no that's solid for him shout out jamal shout of jamal yeah yeah yeah let's move on his first all-star next year that's gonna happen oh yeah that's on the way yeah just because the NBA doesn't mean that you have to stop using Underdog Fantasy. There's sports going on every single day all throughout the summer that you can make

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And we didn't do any prep for this. We're not like doing what you used to do for rankings where we go into it and have our own list. We're going to do a group list as we go. So these are the last 10 champions. You guys see them all on the right side of your screen right now. Number one off top, 2017 Warriors, right? Yes. Yeah, easily.

They got it. 2017 and 18. Whatever. 18 is number two? Yeah. Okay. So Warriors are off top number two, one and two. Okay, they have KD.

After that, then this is where things get open. Are we going 2013 heat, 2014 Spurs? I'm taking the 2014 Spurs. You think they're better than the 13 heat whenever D-WAid was still really good? Yes, yes. That 2014 Spurs team had absolutely everything. And listen, the 2013 Spurs were a free throw away from beating the 2013. Okay.

that's true yeah yeah so we're still not at the point though where the nuggets and getting these conversations quite yet like we're taking the spurs pretty easily right yes i think that's fair yeah so i'm taking the spurs because of like what they did but if they played each other i think it'd be closer than we think because that's that'd be a sick series like that'd be insane that's like that'd be a tope series from hell man the spurs to win the spurs to win but like that'd be sick that'd be a great basketball series yeah okay so spurs number three Heat after that.

The 4 is difficult. We have the heat as an option. 2016 Cavs are really good. Duh. I think I'm taking the 2013 heat over the 2016 calves. The 2013 heat are hard to rank. It's hard to look back at them because they, LeBron, his peak of his powers,

the way their talent was so crazy. And they were a great team. Better than some people remember them for, but also probably not quite as good as you would think, given the fact that it's LeBron. But that's also the team that had the 27 game win streak. That was also the year.

That's also the year that Bosch starts extending his range out, right? So you get into a situation where they can play kind of in the modern NBA. You have that stretch five. They can match up with a lot of people in this league. They had shooters. That was the one with Ray Allen on the team. So I think that's why I like the 2013 heat a lot.

So I think I would take that. I would take them over this year's nuggets. Let's put the 20 here. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're still at the point where the nuggets firmly aren't in here yet. But, listen, the nuggets are coming pretty close. Okay, I'm cool with the heat at four. Who's next?

Five is now where any team could be in five. Yeah. Because the 15 warriors weren't overpowering it. 16 calves are really good. I have a great chip on their resume with that crazy comeback against the best regular season team ever. Are we sure they're better than this year's Nuggets? That's also, that's also like Prime LeBron.

Yeah, so that's, prime LeBron. Prime LeBron is a cheat code that is like second to none. So I'm giving the Cavs than not. Okay, who else is in the conversation right here besides the Cavs? Are the 15, I mean, the 15 warriors are going back and forth to them. Are they in the competition? Damn, this is so disrespectful. Okay, so that's where my line is between this year's nuggets and everybody else.

It would be between them and the baby warriors. So you have, you firmly have the Cavs at 5? Yes. What about you, Mo? Are you rocking with that? I don't know if I have the cat at 5. Who would you have there? I'm starting to think maybe, I'm starting to, maybe, I'm starting to.

I'm going to think if we should have the nuggets there, but I can't afford that this is like Prime LeBron. Yeah. And so like... The thing is, that team was bad defensively, not bad, but not up to par defensively with most championship level teams until the finals when they strapped it up and locked in. So clearly they had that gear they could go to.

And we're not talking about who would win in a series either. It's like, you know, just who's the best in their respective year. So we probably got a good cast here. I have to say, I have to save the caps for sure. Okay. I want to put the nuggets higher, though, but I just can't. be serious okay okay so now number six donovan has warriors and nuggets in the conversation now i think we could all agree that though both those teams are

vying for this spot do any of the other teams have a case do the raptors have a case the 2020 lakers have a case here i think i think that the the 2020 lakers have one of the most dominant defenses that we've seen over the last 10 years they had that they had that crazy stat where if they were up going into the fourth quarter they were 57 and no like they did not lose They did not lose With the lead after three quarters

They were that dominant And LeBron's still Pretty much peak LeBron AD had a jumper That year AD That year AD and LeBron Were legitimately The two best players

In the NBA For that run in the bubble So AD was the best Defensive player in the league An unstoppable rim score And did not miss a jump shot From the mid range And he had a respectable three

So that's where we're at So we're at 2020 Lakers Baby Warriors And then this year's Nuckets I'm taking the Lakers over the Warriors Okay For sure

I don't I think that's fair If it feels disrespectful to the Warriors because they're the Warriors still But I'm going to disrespect them a little bit

Okay Do we think that Lakers team Is better than the Nuggets team I would What would be the argument for the Nuggets?

What would be the argument for the Nuggets? Yeah like being the better finals team I think the The argument for them Would be Oh man

they both have the best player in the world at that given point LeBron was still the best player in the world Yokic is now AD is a bigger swing factor than Jamal Murray Exactly The rest of the team is pretty deep on both sides Nuggets have better coaching I guess Huh this is a hard

Yeah this is super hard I'm thinking Oh man this is hard to think about Especially when you're not matching I guess the shooting I was talking about the respective years I guess the shooting Yeah I guess the shooting for for Denver

Would be would be the differishing Wow that would be the The differentiating factor thank you That would that would be the thing But the defense win championships Man like the Lakers The Lakers weren't a great offensive team They were an amazing defense with the two best players in the world

So their offense would go through that Also the Lakers did beat the Nuggets that year So that is something It wasn't the same team me but ha ha I think too

now that thing about it I have the Lakers over this year's nuggets I just think even like Moe was saying even though that

they swept the Lakers this year it was it was still like there were a couple games that could have went either way and it's a better

healthy LeBron it's the best version of Anthony Davis and they also had and also like if we're doing this on 2K are like they both have

KCP so Casey the KCPs cancel each other out then you have like Coos versus Aaron Gordon Danny Green was still good Caruso then let's not even talk about Caruso would have been given

Jamal Murray a couple fits yeah and Rondo I'm not Rondo Rondo is a thing but like Mo said Dwight and Javail were like solid that's a huge factor in my mind I mean listen we can go like

I would do I like Jordan got minutes yesterday I don't know Oh my god He looked kind of serviceable I'm cool with Lakers Yeah Okay let's go Lakers at six Let's give let's give the Braun credit I think that's kind of like the deciding factor

Yeah We gave the Cads the bronze credit Yeah Okay so Lakers are at six So seven Nuggets 2015 Warriors or 2023 Nuggets Give me the Nuggets

I'll take the Nuggets For sure Man That was a great Warriors team But they're I feel like

they don't they don't have they don't have an interior presence to keep up with Yokic and although listen although that's like but they're not playing each other it's not the game no but I'm I'm saying like if we're doing like a

5-on-5 match if that's what my mind goes when I'm starting to talk about like comparing the two but like the Warriors defense was was great but at the same time I think this Nuggets team is just like... I'm thinking about this. When it comes to like the level of domination and how good you were for that time being,

the Warriors are really damn good, but they weren't... I don't want to say they were groundbreaking or... I mean, they did kind of walk to the finals. Like, it's not like they had a hard... Like, okay, they were down to one to the Grizzlies. But after that, like, they got rid of the Rockets and five games in the conference finals. finals and yeah they're incredible they've won 67 games in the regular season so there's yeah i feel just spoke about saying that 67 to 65 yeah but i think yokech is

yokech is the deciding factor that version of step curry wasn't the go-to score he became later in his career whether it be because of system because he added weight and just more mature the the narrative around curry and the playoffs is always stupid with like him choking or whatever but there was something to he was more schemable back then and we're seeing prequel's powers yokage there's no answers for so I think that might be the deciding factor the same way we give

the LeBron credit for the previous matchups I think we give the Yokish credit here okay exactly I think this is yeah that's a perfect way to put it

yeah honestly we're gonna get cooked for putting the Lakers above the Nuggets so like let's get a Nuggets that's spot here yeah

okay so Nuggets at 7 so 8 8 we go 2015 Warriors yes okay so now we have 9 and 10 wait is there 11 teams here

no yes yes because you oh wait no no no no no we're good we're good we're good we're no one two three four five six seven eight nine there's eleven teams here all right guys we're ranking the top eleven teams in the NBA finals I can't count it's all good after that after that here's how it goes okay so the raptors should be there let's go let's go one by one's go one by one the raptors should be next okay so for people don't know we have raptors bucks and warriors left donovan do you think raptors for sure win wait wait oh the 2022 wars

yeah okay i see i see we're saying um yes they do okay raptor mo where are you leaning from these three i'm definitely putting the raptors there okay right next well either way i'm i voted but i think it's the raptors as well yeah what what puts you i it's obvious when you put them over the warriors warriors a little over the over the end it's the end of their dynasty so it's easy to say why they're not peak of their powers why raptors over bucks They knocked, listen, they obviously, it wasn't the, it wasn't the same team in 2019.

Drew Holiday. But it's peak, that's peak Kauai. And when Kauai is at his best, Kauai is one of, what, the three best, five best players in the world. And I, yeah, they also had the versatility to, to, to match up with, with the bucks. And the names are just crazy. They, it's, it's, it's Mark Gassault. Pauls, Pascal Seacom. Kyle Lowry actually showed up in the playoffs that year.

This was the last time we saw a serviceable Sergei Baca. Yeah, that's 2019. He was still in his emphasis, but he was still pretty damn good. Nick Nurse throughout a Boxing 1 in the finals. He would have out-coach Bud. Oh, easily. Fred Van Vleet had the baby strength, too, remember? Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay, it's the Raptors. It's the Raptors. So now the last two spots 10 and 11 Bucks versus Warriors This is hard Who's more trash I'm gonna put the bucks

And then the Warriors personally Yeah because I just said that If the bucks would have stayed healthy They would have won the finals So clearly I think the bucks were better In the Warriors Yeah I'm assuming

Clay Thompson was not that good In the finals at all Andrew Wiggins was the second best player And I'm looking at that compared to the Milwaukee books. Middleton was a beast. Milton was good before the injuries.

Yeah, exactly. I just think the bucks outclassed him. And also, Janus was low-key, like, noticeably more athletic from 2021 to where he is now two years later. Like, he was a fucking force, man.

Both sides of the ball. The defensive impact of Draymond plus one of the best rim scores you've ever seen, like, that's... Drew Hollidays to your first year there? That's true. but the Warriors defense last year and their ability to protect the rim and rebound,

even though they really had nobody outside of Draymond to defend, that's still amazing. I think that they just had, 2022 was very reminiscent of 2015 and that it was a real like strength and numbers type of win. And we talk about the 15 version of Steph and that, that guy not being able to just go and get a bucket and he wasn't as season as he was. last year step curry is driving to the basket whenever he wanted he's pulling up he's incredible telling people to ring me in the third quarter he was different last year so

i'm going to ride with step over yannis okay well two two thirds outvoted bucks go 10 warriors are a great team but they're 11 y'all son is what it is yeah this is the great list this is so tough bro my head is like slowly turning thinking through all these things Yeah, I feel confident we've got everything right The only thing is Nuggets versus 2020 Lakers That's the hardest part, I think Yeah Where is somebody yells at us for saying the Nuggets are worse

I understand I kind of feel like The Nuggets deserve that But I can't go wrong with the Lakers, right? It's the LeBron team Yeah It is what it is Yeah, I'm not losing too much sleep over that one

Because it's so flip-flop I think it was, I don't know The last thing, even though, like, the whole buck, the whole bubble thing happened, the lasting image that I have of the Lakers that year was beating, beating the Bucks on a Friday night and then beating the Clippers on a Sunday. And it was very clear, like, okay, like, the Lakers are here and they're, they're probably going to win the chip. And, like, that's, that's just what it is. They were just that dominant.

Yeah, I'm cool with it. This is a good top 10. You guys know what time is? Tell me. Stick talk to. It's tick top time. Let's get into it. Yeah, we out here to do we get into it

Yeah, we did a street pharmacies We feed in these fiends over here These people These TikTok teens are not going to know what the fuck that means Don't explain it to him either Don't explain it to him either Oh man As always we're going to start with the draft

He's a street pharmacist As always we're going to start with the draft This time is to be a little different The goal is not going to be to see who could draft The best NBA lineups the goal will be to see who could draft the most average NBA lineups we're not drafting bad players we're not drafting great players strictly average players

whole lot of mead whole lot of mead so let's draft them as average NBA lineup as possible Mo you got first pick I got second pick Donovan's third nice this is quite literally my bag first pick he's just drafted in the Hawks Fuck you.

First pick, give me Dylan Brooks. Okay. He's an amazing, he's an amazing mid-player, bro. He's not moving the needle whatsoever. He does some valuable things, but then he also does a lot of things that make you want to, that will cause your team to lose. Give me Dylan. Yeah.

For every good thing he does, he does one brain-dead thing that just makes you roll your eyes. Yeah. Second pick, give me Aaron Holliday. Ah. That's a cut. The most fine point guard. Yeah. That's a great,

that's a great pick. I like that. Okay, okay. I'm shocked. When I think of average, I think of this guy right here. Give me Harrison Barnes as my first big. Harrison Barnes is the definition of average, okay?

Wow. I take Harrison Barnes with my first pick. And then give me, give me THT. With my second pick. Damn. I used to go one of my picks. That's cold letter right there.

Give me THHT. You want to talk about the definition of average. Give me one of the biggest draft disappointments in the last few years. Give me Patrick Williams. He was on my list, too, bro. I'm done for it. Damn. That man is so okay at everything.

Yeah, I know. He's not bad whatsoever. He's nice as shooting threes, but he only shoot, like, won a game. Nice-ish, I guess. All right. Speaking of the Hawks, give me DeAndre Hunter. Y'all told me that he was a ex-coisle-Lennel. He's off my list.

I don't see none of that. He's off my list. And then at my center position, give me Yusuf Nerkitz. I am sick of seeing that man play basketball, bro. Why is he still on the Blazers? All right. I'll do you one better. Give me Isaac Acoro.

Oh, that's nice. Yeah. That's a great thing. I got the most mid-wing deal ever. All right. We're going to fill out my back court here. This man be running around tricking a lot of people. Give me Patrick Beverly.

Ooh. Tricking a lot of people still? I think he's a good enough defender to be a little above average. No, he tricks people. He tricks people. Okay. So give me Patrick Beverly right now. And then when the fourth quarter comes around,

make sure Nicholas Batum is in my lineup. Nichols Baton oh my god That's great That's a W draft That's a W pick I'm going to take I'm going to take the most Average shooting guard in the league

He's out of the rotation for his team Evan Fournier Damn That's some good news right there That is a great Yeah that's some great You're a little French magic in my lineup That is some great mid

All right so I got Yusuf Nurkich Deandre Hunter Dylan Brooks So I need to fill up my guard spots for my point guard I love this feisty point guard give me T.J. McConnell

he is like so blah and whenever you see him on the court he's either like damn I know he had that in his bag or it's like damn why is he on the court and then at my two I need someone who's

real mid give me I need someone from the wizards dog I need someone on the Wizards Who's a Who is that dude on the Wizards That you were waving about a couple episodes ago Not like way earlier

Oh Goodwin Yeah No, it was him It was him Him I don't even know his name him I can remember his first name Is it Marcus? Marcus Goodwin

I don't know bro I can remember I cannot remember Let me Let me go ahead and check that real quick Just to make sure. Oh, my God.

Look at the wizard roster. That's so funny. Look at the wizard's roster. Yeah, I am. Also, yeah, Jordan Goodwin. There we go. That's hilarious. There we go.

All right, guys. Pack it up. I just won the draft. Javelle McGee. That hurt my heart. That hurt my heart. He's trash. He's trash.

He's trash. Come on now. No, no, no, no, no. Don't do them like that. You fumbled. Don't do them like that. Listen, I need to say. center right give me bismac bianbo as as my center he's a good pick a zero net rating team i like

it he not moving the needle at all so i have Aaron Holliday Evan Fortier Isaac Akoro Patrick Williams and Javelle McGee cool I had teacher McConnell Jordan Goodwin Dylan Brooks DeAndre Hunter and Yusuf Nurkich I love it yeah that's that's a Wembee quality you right there, bro. I don't know. Who had the most mid-team? We'll let the comments decide. Yeah, let you guys decide.

The next thing we're going to do, as always, a tier list. This time, in the spirit of the draft being next week, we're going to do a tier list of number one draft picks. So, we'll be ranking how they turned out, how good the pick was, you know, you know the fucking vibes.

So, let's put these number one drafts. Let's put these number one NBA draft picks I can't talk let's put these number one NBA draft picks into a tier list first off Kyrie Irving s tier he he has to be honest he won a championship with the team that drafted him you can't say that for a lot of number one tier I kind of want to go a tier I want to reserve s tier for like players that became one of the best players alive exactly I feel like you put damy litter in those same shoes and he just played with LeBron James like you know what I'm saying like he did what he was supposed to do he didn't do

anything monumental for the calves well he did do okay let me not let me take that back he could have been Kwame Brown he could have done that that's why he's a tier but that he wasn't a LeBron pick he wasn't like the best player in the world so I want to save S tier yeah a tier for Kyrie I think that's fair let's reserve that I think you have a top five player at some point to be S tier yeah let's keep going He definitely gave top five vibes, though. No, we did not. Ben Simmons.

D. D. This was tough. He should. He was a multiple-time All-Star for a team that drafted him. Yes, but then he cost him a playoff series by not dunking the ball over Trey Young. And then, no. The way he went out.

They had to trade him within the first five years. I think this is a C, to be honest. I was thinking C-2. He made his accomplishments very short, and when he came up, running throughout the first years of his career he was that guy but he played three years with that way more than three wasn't really just three because he missed his first year and then he didn't play the last one with them okay i just feel like if you become an all-star you got to be at least but if you get traded within five years you can't be above c the way everything went down was just

so destructive and so messy you're right it has to be deep like there's no way that this could Well, he got them, James Hardin. That's the best thing he's done for them. Like, it's... No. They did for him. No. C-tier.

C-tier because he was a positive trade asset. Oh, my God. All right. Next one. Anthony Edwards. This is too... I feel like this too early, but B. I was thinking A.

I think this year in the playoffs, he kind of proved that he's going to be on the Star trajectory, so I feel comfortable with A. I think I'll definitely feel comfortable. with A now and also long term for sure he just hasn't it just hasn't been there yet like like he's he's shown disappointed he's shown it but like I putting him it's kind of it's the same logic that you guys have with LeBron and Kyrie I don't think that he has done enough to be on the same level as Kyrie in the tier list so I so I'll put him at B but he's been given so far I think he's done enough okay we can go B but soon to be A I think we all know he's going to hit that

level. Sure. Cool. Zion Williamson. C tier. This is an awkward one. Yeah, C. You could say B, because when he's healthy, he has been truly incredible and he's still hope he's going to become, he's going to stay healthy eventually, but he hasn't played enough games. It's like, bro, what have you done for my team other than give us revenue from selling out tickets and also giving us more clout? They're not even doing that. They don't even have clout. They're still the pelicans like well i remember like he did he did give them club because as soon as the pelicans got the number one overall pick they sold out season tickets immediately right after the he got drafted so or not right after they found out they had the number one pick so and he didn't

play that year so they ended up getting rid of all those tickets nobody came that's true yeah c's fine for now i still i i have faith he'll get healthy eventually and prove that he's like a or s tier but for now we got to go see yeah for sure Anthony Davis is this an S worthy or what I guess S tier he was a top five player

gotta be S tier right he's won a championship he's like live up to what he's supposed to do and more like he was legitimately a top five guy yeah definitely there's yes tier I feel like a lot of people would disagree because they still don't feel like he should have been at the peak or he has been at the peak of his powers

but S tier for sure haters, I don't care. DeAndre Aidan. Oh, man, this is like a D, man. They're about to, he's about to be out of Phoenix. And it's like, it's hard to, it's hard to not hold the fact he could have been Luca against him. Yeah. No, I think I should go hold that.

He, coming in, Aiton was the seven-foot prospect who had all the offensive tools. He was, he was very solid defense. like he looked like he was going to be if you have the chance to get an all around seven footer you just have to take that over everybody else like i'm not holding that against him what i am holding against him is the fact that he has been rescinded into a role that is like we can get anybody off the street obviously not anybody but we can get anybody off the street to go do what you do you're out here fighting with the coach you're fighting with CP3 your effort looks questionable on a lot of plays

it looks like we're going to move on they didn't they didn't want to give him the contract last year they gave him the contract just so that they had the ability to trade him later on yeah yeah he's got to be d right he's not even an all-star like he's got to be d yeah he's white he's not f because f is like anthony bennett and shit but he can't be higher than d yeah d is very fair

you like jalking longdale sales feel your minutes row get out of here you're not touching a b or c yeah you're lucky you're touching d honestly Yeah Pause That was crazy On to the next TikTok Next up

We're going to do another draft of sorts We're going to do what we did a few weeks ago We did a couple of them And we're going to do draft building a player Instead of building a team This time we're going to build We're going to build the ideal small forward With only current players

And the categories are going to be body Shooting, Defense, passing and finishing And I think last time I had second pick last time Mo had first pick So I think it's me, Donovan Moe It's a draft order Okay

Okay So I'm good How many categories are there again? Four? Five Five Body shooting Passing finishing

And defense D cool Cool So let's draft The perfect NBA small forwards First pick Give me LeBron James's passing Nice

we let it There's no close second Does not Does not Give me Give me Kauai Leonard's Defense It's a great pick

Nice I like that We're only doing current players But I'll assume He's in his prime Just to give it to you Okay Nice

We're here Give me Kevin Durant's Shooting Yeah Can't go wrong there And then There's a lot of good shooters though

I'm cool off that And then we're wrapping around right yep cool and then go ahead and give me i got kevin around shooting ah all right who's pause whose body do i want whoa give me give me macal bridge's body he has a unique build why would you want what oh no i said body i meant to say d damn you'd rather have McCaubridge's D yeah give me give me his defense give me his defense no see like he'll pick his body

no defense you can't do like that no you can't tell me like that no you you pick the body like this you said it's what you have oh my goodness I meant to say D you sold sorry you can't have the McHald D you sold you sold okay

um let's see when we get to this is tough this is tough when we get to body give me scotty barn's body okay that's a good pick got the length

yeah my turn damn you pick bridges I wanted his defense but you stupidly picked this fucking body at least I got him off the boy give me Aaron Gordon's finishing

Aaron Gordon yep dunk champion isn't he a four though do you want to count as a four I mean I think that's I think he's primarily known as that he did have his ears in Orlando

when he was a three should I pick somebody else I think that's fine whatever no you got it you got it yeah okay and then okay you guys and they give me

OG and Anobie's defense cool okay okay give me Chris Middleton shooting that's a good pick you got the mid-range bag too nice was tatum off the board at all

don't tell him not yet is there according to four sure should we let me are the comments going to roast us for that should we not let me have Aaron Gordon they might roast you for that

but you can't go back and steal my pick my pick me Jason Tatum body I don't want Jason Tatum should I pick somebody else as Aaron Gordon just because he's he's there starting for

he is all yeah that's what I'm saying it's too fresh okay I'll go back I'll pick somebody else um don't want

give me to marter rosen's finishing that's a great pick not the most athletic but he's really strong around the room that's a great pick and then okay so you got tatem's what so i got jason tano's body and then get me oh say it again because i talked over you when you said the first time

yeah give me jason tano's body i recovered my bag i feel like there's a lot of six seven dudes out there like whatever And then Jimmy Buller's passing Oh, okay, that's a good one

There's not a lot of good passes out there I like that Okay, we're counting We're counting him as a forward Yeah, for sure Yeah It's been a three for a long time All right

This is tough I need some passing And I have no idea where to go But this is This is going to be one of the mopecks where it's like, hey, like whatever, whatever happens happens. You know what I'm saying? Give me. Give me Paul George passing.

Okay. It's one of the best you can do. Yeah. Okay. So I need shooting and body. Give me Michael Porter Jr. shooting. That is elite.

That's good. You're not passing the ball whatsoever. I love that. I got LeBron's passing. That's all I'm saying. That's good. I think MPJ's shooting instincts are supreme than LeBron's passing

instincts. If I got MPJ's brain, I'm fucked. Yeah. Would you mind? For body? Oh, wait. Wait, go ahead. For body,

underrated Jonathan Kaminga, underrated athleticism. All right. That's cool. That's cool. That's great. I like that big. Can I make a trade

within my own draft? No. What does that mean? Can I switch two of my players' attributes? No. No. No changes. How dirty y'all been doing me?

No. I tried to do that with McHale Bridges. All I was doing was asking a question. It's all I was doing. All right. Then we're good. Oh, is that it? Oh, wait.

Oh, no. Wait, do I say I have finishing? I don't think I have. I don't have. No, you guys both have one pick left. You have a pick left. Oh, wow. I am tripping.

Okay. I don't think I have D and I don't. Do I have finishing? I don't think I have finishing. Okay. You, listen. You guys only have one pick left. Okay.

I have mine. And hear me out, considering that we're talking about, like, their peak and their prime. Give me Rudy Gay's finishing. This is so, this is a deep cut. It is. Okay. I'm just, listen, Rudy, Gay used to do some things. Okay.

Okay, you're going to have them. Whatever that means. It means you used to get bodies, Mo. Whatever that means. Keep that to yourself. Give me Andrew Wiggins' defense. Oh, those highlights are classic. All right.

All right, so I have. I have. LeBron's passing. Michael Porter Jr. shooting. O.G. Anobie defense. DeMarter-Rose in finishing. And Jonathan Camiga's body.

Yeah, I sold. All right. So here we go. Here we go. I got Scottie Barnes' body, Chris Millington shooting, Kaui Leonard defense, Paul George passing, and Rudy Gay finishing. Oh, man, your team sucks. Your player's ass.

It's honestly not. It's honestly not. Your players is Paul George. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's cool. I'm okay. All right. So I got, I forgot one.

I got I forgot who I selected for finishing but forget out later I got Jimmy Butler passing KD shooting Andrew Wiggins defense McCau Bridges body and then blank finishing did I ever pick someone for sure I genuinely don't remember yeah you big Jason Tatum's finishing

no you pick his body no I picked McCall Bridge's body you said Jason Tatum's body by accident say Jason Tedden finishing and I'll let it in there there you go yeah Jason Tatum finishing that is perfect So I'll take Jason Tatum finishing Give me Jason Tatum finishing

Okay Yeah You accidentally said body twice Yeah There we go There was a miss up I'm like I know I picked someone Who's nice

But I don't see anyone Who's nice left in this bitch What the fuck And it's funny Because Jason Tatum isn't even that good I'm a finisher Like it's Yeah

I don't remember No it's because you thought You had body Yeah exactly Yeah exactly You fucked up He improved All right

Next thing we got We're gonna do Talk about father-son duos in the NBA let's get into it this will be a fun one we're going to say which father-son duo is better this man Donovan just texted me Rudy gay highlights

nostalgia this will be doing okay I'm gonna watch that at 2 a.m. There you go. I'm gonna have I'm gonna have two NBA father-son duos you guys will tell me which one's better so which NBA father-son duo was better

Clay Thompson and Michael Thompson or Demontis Sabonis and Arvitas how nice was Michael Thompson that's the real question I mean he was a role player on showtime he's good he's a number one overall pick though he was number one

yeah I didn't even know that he was like that yeah didn't pan out but he was number one they have to go to some bonuses I'm gonna have to go to the sub bonuses they're getting right off the floor by Clay Thompson and his father it's ugly

Clay Thompson right it's just the right one duo one duo one duo we're on two of the greatest dynasties of all time two duo the other duo is good assist numbers i guess wow that was gross i just sent up the nastiest per pepper that's disgusted please cut that i'm keeping that in there that's disgusting that's how he feels about the subonis twins anyways listen oh bruh so subon of daddy was washed by the time he got to the league so yeah that's thing it's a bonus would have came in his prime i mean if our viz would have came in his prime it would have been different but we just never got to see it in the NBA uh yeah

give me the thompsons thompsons the dyn gary peyton gary peyton and his son or doc rivers and austin rivers and austin gary payton would have locked up both of them cheeks yeah both rivers guys are trash yeah austin re awesome the highlight of austin rivers career is his high school

mixtapes. Hey man, Doc Rivers is top 10 all time and assist. That's all I'm saying. He would have been clapped. He's getting clamped. Yeah, no, that's a movement. Shout to him, though.

He was nice as a hawk. Yeah, Austin Rivers is, I actually think Austin Rivers is a little bit underrated for what he was doing when he was at the peak of his role player powers. Please don't ever say that sentence. At the peak of his role player powers. That was disgusting.

As you said it, your eyebrows raised, you're like, ooh, this is kind of... I couldn't even say with a straight face. Yeah, I actually like Austin Rivers. But, yeah, Gary Payton's better than Doc. GP2 is probably better than Austin. Yeah, I'd rather have GP2, to be honest on my team. I think Austin's probably the better, definitely the better overall player, but Gary Payne's so good at his...

Gary Payne's so good at his role, it just puts it over time. Yeah. If I had to build a championship team, I'd rather have the gadget player in GP2 then Austin Rivers who's just solid at everything Not that great. Yeah, exactly. Gary's plus their cooler.

Plus Gary Payton's scary so we got to pick him. Yeah. Doc Rivers does not move me. Yeah. Austin Reeves got a cool podcast. With who? I don't even remember.

You keep saying Austin Reeves instead of Austin Rivers. I don't know why I keep on saying Reeves, bro. Austin Rivers has got a cool podcast. Who's he with? Is it the ringer? Yeah, so yeah, it's with the ringer. I forget the guy's name. He's cool.

Yeah, he works for the ringer. All he does is. complain on there. Yeah. Yeah. About how we hate new school things, bro. Sounds like a boomer. Yeah.

I don't want podcast, smoke awesome. Don't get mad at this. Yeah. Cap, I'm kidding. Okay. Steph and Dale Curry or Luca and Devin Booker? That's so nasty. That's so nasty.

Considering that Steph likes his father and Devin does it like his father, I think the chemistry with Steph and Dell is better. Yeah, there might be a brawl board as soon as the game checks up, bro. So I'm definitely going Steph and Dell. Yeah, I'm going team dad jokes over daddy issues. That's a bar. That's a good run, you know. That's hilarious.

Only one of these... Come on. You're about to go crazy. All right, that's why. On to the next one. Let me calm down. Yeah. Next thing we're going to do

is we're going to do a couple of videos as keeping up with the theme of the NBA draft next week. And Mo, I think you have the first one for us. We're going to do another video about which players live it up to their NBA draft comps. Yeah. I got hella interesting names.

All right? So let's start this stuff on a series. did this player reach did this player live up to their draft comp or draft comparison did this player live up to their draft comparison yeah there we go did this player live up to their NBA draft comparison okay let's go all right first up immanuel moodye to john wall yeah man emmanuel moodye honestly in his prime passed up john wall it's not even close ah man seeing immanuel moody fail in the NBA hurt my soul yeah i don't even think people actually thought he was going to be john waldo that wasn't like a serious comp like i don't even want to hold that against him yeah i know super sad super sad he has that listen listen he has that one highlight of him hitting a buzzer beater so like shout out to him

that's cool next up john morant to d rose slash steve francis i think so for sure i think people were having these conversations of like listen is D. Rose he's better but John Morant could be in the same conversation even though he didn't win MVP so he's not the level of player of D. Rose yet but he 100% is on that path definitely not people

as long as he puts the clock down yeah definitely people were saying John Morant what last year was better than D. Rose and his MVP season which is crazy to say but he's definitely right under that same tree

easily. Yeah. It's hard to say John Morant has failed anything besides not being a dumb ass like on the court he said everything

you wanted to do. Spend it's going to go in. I'm crying. Where is God? Jail! That's Neskaferrous and hilarious. All right.

Bam out of bio to Sean Kemp, Tristan Thompson, and Dwight Howard. Probably because he just looked like him. Everybody. There's a very different

players. If you're tall and black, Bama had a bio, that's you. Like, I don't... Tall, black, waves and earrings, diamond earrings on. Oh, yeah. I've no idea. I guess, okay, so we'll go one by one. Sean Kemp, yeah?

I'll say, sure. Like, he's better than, like, he's probably better than Sean Kemp. What was it like? He's as good. They're both all-stars. He's on the same level of Sean Kemp. What's the second one? Tristan Thompson.

He's better than Tristan Thompson. He's better than Tristan Thompson. He's better than Tristan Thompson. The main thing was he's a beast on the boards and not that great at Schaubbocking in college. And then Dwight Howard, was he like, I mean, no. I swear to God, I didn't see that whatsoever. Just because they look like, that's it. I don't know why it was there.

He's just a, I mean, he's a similar mold. He's just way less athletic, has a little bit of a touch. So, like, I see why people said that. But sure, he's some amalgamation of those three guys. I'll give it to him. Yeah, fair. That's a W. All right.

DeAndre Hunter to Kauai Leonard. Please, God, when will we retire these 6-7, 6-8 wings who can play defense and sometimes dribble? That is the worst thing to happen on this green earth. Poor DeAndre Hunter, they saw him be good at an old age, and they were just like, yeah, he's got it for no reason. Obviously, he failed. He's not Guy Leonard, but, like, again, this, it's so hard. Everybody just always puts the star label on people. We need to start hyping up mediocrity, right?

We need to start comparing him to just random guys. Facts, that man is barely Myers-Lennard. Oh, my God, that's crazy. Myers-Lennard, that hurt my heart. Anyways, whatever. All right. Mediocrity, say less. R.J. Barrett to Jimmy Butler slash DeMartor Rosen.

You're nasty for that. Failed. You're nasty for that. I don't appreciate that. I'm not participating. Oh, the straight punch to the chest. Yeah. Definitely not what you wanted from a number three pick,

but a lot of smart draft people knew that RJ Barrett wasn't what he was hyped up to be at a high school and shouldn't have been picked that high. So he's been what we'd expect, but a lot of mainstream people have these stupid expectations. So, Phil. Yeah, exactly. Sad stuff. He's still finding his way in the NBA. I think we've just all accepted the points where he's just one of those players who's, man.

It ain't wrong. It ain't wrong with that. Yeah, he'll find his way to China. all right Trey young to Steve Nash and Steph Curry To Steph Curry

Obviously no Steve Nash To Steve Nash No No Failed I see how people say that This is more of a stylistic comparison

To Steve Nash Than level of players Just because he's small He does play like Steve Nash In the modern sense So I see it But The last 24

Or the last 12 months Seth I can't talk In the last 12 months Trey Young's kind of put himself under a spotlight. He's a little suspect right now. Yeah, but overall, aside from the down year, look at him holistically,

I think his play style is more comparable to someone like a James Harder in terms of how he likes to get his shots off and how much, how ball dominant he is. Yeah, he's really nothing like Steph Curry. That comparison is a fat L. Yeah, it's just racism taking that over. Oh, he's nice. He can shoot far? Oh, that's the next.

Colorism one. yeah exactly colorism 101 all right this next one is kind of interesting so when I was looking up julius randle

to Terrence Ross Al Harrington and Zach Randolph okay so I don't even want to talk about that he tries to be he tries to he tries to be like Zach Randolph

sometimes he can look like Al Harrington his and most of the times he's just didn't like Terrence Ross so like yeah all three all three all three

W that's hilarious correct yeah all right this one's interesting Markle Foltz to James Hardin

and DeAngelo Russell poor Fultz man yeah listen he would have got there he would have been better than those guys maybe or he would have been better than Dilo I'll tell you that but that motorcycle accident destroyed his shoulder

he's never been the same gotta be a failure uh you saying that like you're on the scene what do you mean that motorcycle accident i was reporting live on the crime scene they hid the artifacts listen show us the paperwork markill yeah markle falls he was looking like he was looking like he was right under the NBA draft factory of next all-star guard not generation or not that but like he's him in terms of playmaking dicing things up in and outside of the arc so poor mark ill well because

what could have been yeah yeah exactly j cole believe and uh yeah that's all we got last one okay cool i like those all right let me send these all right let me send these yeah one more video before we get out of here donovan i believe you are hosting this one we're going to talk about NBA draft night fits which is going to be funny all right i'm saying these is going to go and send us some pictures right now you guys will see them on the screen since i've decided to be nice to you guys and put in some effort to put these pictures on the screen and edit it all right here we go let's rate these NBA draft fits from one to three 10 okay all right first up lebrons all white suit oh this is kind of hard the baggy pants

or the baggy pants it was two thousand's fashion i'm gonna give this a good a this is kind of hard he was mr put it on that night dude this was his night and he rocked it out best best night best fit of the night for sure bro the bagginess listen when you listen it looks like he had shoulder When you enter draft night with a chosen one tattoo on your back, you got to wear some extravagant shit and all white. That lived up to hype. Yeah. That's the cleanest thing possible. All right.

Next one. Trey Young and his shorts tuxedo. Oh no, I want him in prison. No. You need to be in prison. Why do people? No, this is not a zero. This is easy like a nine.

This is actually hard. Okay. I think you need to be investigated. You need to be investigated for your crimes against. fashion you like shorts with a suit I might need to fucking get off this call listen I like to be comfortable listen you're being comfortable

this is shorts yes yes this is an 8.5 and not only do I like this outfit I've worn it before I've watched it before I am all right I'm a suspect if I saw that in person I am on board

multiple times too I'm just glad you never let me see you with this on because there have been pictures taken and they would have been on the internet. If I were you don't have and I would have never shared that public, if I were you don't have and I would have never shared that information. Just because I take risk with my fashion choices, and I am okay with that, all right?

Now everybody sees the vision. Well, what makes this worse is that he has glasses on. I don't know why. Maybe it does, because he don't look good with the glasses on, but the fit goes from like an eight from the picture on the left to like a tube for the picture of the right. Maybe he just looks like a nerd. I don't know.

You guys are fucking drunk. This is horrible. No. No, this is hard. All right. Listen, we will get to horrible. And that's the next one. Kevin Knox and his Fortnite jacket.

Listen, I'd rather wear this to Tray Young's garbage, but this is corny as fuck. Oh, my God, right. A fortnight. Why does the bottom say, your boy? Listen, I try. Is that your boy, Kevin? I tried to convince myself on draft night that Kevin Knox was going to be good. I should have known from this moment that he would have been.

been a bust this is terrible this is a crime this is a crime i don't even think he was sponsored by fortnight he was just doing this for free clout the funny thing is too the rest of it isn't really good either that vest is ugly yeah exactly what was going on what was the did he have anyone to help him out no one had he didn't have no stylist bro you kidding me like that low cut vest with the fucking with the what's it called bow tie yeah that low cut vest with the bow tie combination he's already starting at a low point you're throwing fortnight He must have been paying him a serious bag in order. I don't think they were.

He did it for a love of the game. This is horrendous. All right. Zero. All right. Next one. Palo Bancaros, whatever this is. I want to say this is kind of hard.

That chain ties it in together. This is terrible. I don't like the shoes with the fit, but I don't hate the... This is the type of risk I would take with the purple, not like Trey Young's shorts risk this is cool no this is listen it has a good base and it had potential this looks like and it makes sense because he's like 19 this is a prom outfit this is something that people wear the prom and it shouldn't be something that you wear it to the NBA draft I don't know what he has coming off of his suit but it looks like it just looks itchy at this point

it looks it looks weird I'm not what it is kind of giving gta 5 character fashion so gta 5 this is this is giving me prime saint's row character fashion bro I'm fin to hit up the meanest look with this on. Are you kidding me? All right. Yeah. Why is it change to 75? What is that?

I think it says P5. What does it? Oh, P5. P5, I think? Yeah. Okay. Whatever. Is five his number?

Yeah, five is his number. They call on P5. Oh, okay. Listen, the chain is the best part of the fit. Yeah. I think you kind of swing. I'll give it a six. This may be a bad.

It's cool. It's all right. No. All right. Next one. Jalen Rose's iconic red pinstripe suit. Hard. This is a 10.

I like this a lot. This is hard. This is hard. And with the hat, the hat goes so perfectly. The tie is hard. Hard for sure. They've made fun of Jalen Rose for years.

And I've never understood why. This is a great outfit. This is a good choice. He was ahead of his time. The people making fun of him are people like shack and shit. The people that are like, you don't want to be listening to you for fashion advice anyways. Yeah, exactly.

know you this is an absolute fire and with the hat it looks like throwback vibes now this is dope yeah I the tie is kind of throwing me off this a little bit ties hard there's too much going on there too a little bit too much going on there but overall I'm a modern suit cut and I would wear this oh 100% easily I'll definitely wear this I might lose a tie next one Drew Goodins block of a suit now that boy looked like my window curtains holy shit This man looks like an iron golem from This man looks like an iron Golem from Minecraft

This is a Ford This looks like a zip-up suit I don't I don't understand Why is the tie so short on it Is he wearing a mic as well What's going on here? Bro is built like Squidward's house

This is crazy Like he just Like he just got flat ironed Before the entire draft The whole body He flat ironed away And why you add it on Like what is going on

This is a straightest suit I've seen in my life Yeah, exactly, bro Oh my God It's terrible So give me that bag of cement look Ugh All right

Last one Jalen Green's shiny pinstripe suit Oh absolutely hard Dripper Drown This is 10 This is incredible What 10 This is a 10

This is hard as fuck It's a 9 I don't like the shirt under You want to talk about wrist I don't I don't like the shirt underneath I don't like the shirt underneath But everything else is fire Yeah

This is how you stand out In a creative way What's throwing me off Is how his pants They're too flowy at the bottom When I see Pants are too flowed At the bottom like that

They give me throwback Vives Get on the bell bottom wave Mo Factor He's dressed like Amigos In the walkie talking music video Given the 70s vibes I'm going back to

Nah I can't do it I can't do it I can't do it It's not me Walk it like to talk it that's the that's the only part that i give i get this a seven to be honest seven oh you tripping no this this is hard i'm not going lower than nine this is i hate the pants listen if you know you know thanks you don't know all right well that's it that's the end of that

video to rate the tray young shorts over this is fucking mind-blowing to me yeah no the tray young shorts are hard i get i want you in you're just focusing on the shorts the shorts are not trash That's half the fit Why would I not focus on the shorts It's the finding part of the fit The rest of it is solid Look at his shoes They're hard

The rest of it is fine It's average as fuck Yeah the shoes was made The shoes were mid The only part that's normal That stands out Is the shorts Everything else is literally

From the prom store in the mall Ha ha ha ha ha ha Don't disrepid that man Trade like that Too late It's hard Anyways yeah man That's the end the episode

If you're still here Comment Mo has no drip Let us see in the comments Oh, whoa. Crazy allegation. That is outrageous. Crazy allegation. Wow.

Comment Trey Young has no drip. Let's do that. Piss him off even more. That is still out of Trey Young more than himself. He's more mad about that. Come at me. Trey Young has no drip. I want to hear it in the comments.

Come at me. I will sacrifice myself for my glorious Trey Young. What was that video? I will sacrifice myself for Packy's dead. Yeah. Thurbeck meme All right End of the episode

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