The Deep 3 Podcast - We Re-Drafted The Entire NBA | Ep. 157

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Today we do a league wide NBA re-draft! #nba Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Mo's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- Intro 2:06- Kawhi scandal 22:14- Cam Thomas contract 36:03- NBA Re-Draft 1:45:27- tiktok time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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but it is now the start of 2K season as you got to see by the title we are going to do a redraft of the entire NBA we're both going to control or not both all three of us are going to control one team in a league-wide free draft, fantasy draft style, putting every single player in the pool, and we're going to do that draft in 2K. Finally, finally, we've had countless drafts that we've done over the years, and everyone, like, some people have, like, I think one person has gone through and, like, put our teams in, like, a five in one of those, like, weird drafts that we've done, but we've never done this, and I'm ready to not sell. People constantly ask, like you said, when we do drafts to do it, now it'll be

full 15-man roster, you know, along with the rest of the league, and we're going to draft it, do the whole thing, react to what the CPU does, and then we're going to sim a season or two and see which one of us drafted the best teams. So you're telling me, actually, we'll actually be able to come to a final consensus. Who actually best... A one-year sample size. There will be a winner. There will be a winner. But, you know, we'll let the comments decide, too, because maybe some of us are going to draft with long-term vision in mind. So the comments give us their opinion about who drafted the best team for a long-term and then two K will tell us who won the short term.

Okay, let's do it. But before we get to that, I said, you know, the NBA season right now, not shit going on. Something finally went on this week, and we have some news to react to involving the funniest superstar in the league. Kauai Leonard, we're going to react to that news. We're going to react to that. A little bit of Ben Simmons news sprinkled in. We're going to talk about that. Then we're going to get to the league-wide redraft.

I can't wait. Let's do it. Cue the intro music. Oh my god I mean I don't know what to say Pray on eaters rejoice First things first Like I said

We have Kauai Leonard news to react to And I haven't been able to say that all summer That we have news to react to you So I'm very glad to have it We have to dive deep Until Pablo Tori's new report That basically accuses the clippers of cheating What the hell

Exclusive Kauai Leonard has signed a $28 million endorsement deal for a no-show job with a fraudulent tree planting company funded by $50 million from Clippers owner Steve Bomber, according to documents obtained by Pablo Tori. Quote, it was

to circumvent the salary cap per inside source. What the hell? I feel like this is the second time or maybe third time in the last in the course of 14 months or some weird random news has came out about the Clippers. And Buckley-Litered. This man is, he has the

he has the reputation of being this like low maintenance guy who doesn't cause any problems comes in treats the job like a 9 to 5 there is always a story about Coile Leonard if you really think about it and of course it happens

to the Clippers like this is this is just peak Los Angeles Clippers something funny is going on you guys are messing with the salary cap out of all things like yes and I will say

I don't care about any of the reporting when I say this I believe Steve Balmer is a crazy man And so like If you could have told me that Steve Balmer did anything I'd be like, yeah, I can see it I can get there So I watched this whole episode

I think you guys did too Of the Pobulatory podcast Where he talks about the story That he's reporting on in breaking And the short version is In 2021, the Clippers And specifically Steve Balmer Had very close ties to this company

Called Aspiration That their whole thing was Bullshit, it was a ridiculous company that they parted up with corporations to have a carbon neutral footprint by basically planting a bunch of trees for them and giving them good PR that they're making themselves carbon neutral by replacing as many trees as they are carbon emissions, which is like a nonsense principle to begin with. But that was the whole point of this company.

And Steve Bomber was exclusively tied with that. He had a lot of investment and connection with the CEOs, these companies. And in 2021, there was plans for this company aspiration to be one of the lead sponsors of the Clippers. That fell apart because the company went under. but they still owe a lot of money to the clippers and they have some business ties. Well, as a part of that rollouts,

Kauai Leonard is sponsored by Aspiration given a $28 million contract and $20 million in stocks to Aspiration. And he is listed with a bunch of other celebrity endorsements they did. They were endorsed by Leonardo DiCaprio, Drake, Robert Donny Jr., all these AILA celebrities. And these AILA celebrities are public-facing.

They made Instagram posts, they did commercials, all kinds of stuff, as you would expect from a normal sponsorship. Kauai Leonard has never once mentioned Aspiration by name. He is their biggest sponsorship by far. His $28 million plus $20 million in stock is per Pablo Tori's inside source

four times as much as all the other celebrity endorsements combined from those big names I said. And Kauai Leonard has done absolutely nothing, appeared absolutely nowhere, spoken about it absolutely zero times. It looks to be a deal that nobody would know about if this company didn't go bankrupt and have to show their documents.

And it's crazy because in the report they were like they're breaking down, the contract and like what kawai has to do or or what he can and can't do within this thing he didn't even have to like actually send a tweet himself he could have just liked something and it would have counted as as some type of endorsement and he didn't even do that for for aspiration you could have liked you could have retweeted you could have left the comment anything and so for for kawai who probably doesn't even like run his socials like that or he isn't even on social you could have had somebody on your team do all do all of that and it just never happened

And, like, so the ways, there was also a clause where they said that Kauai could decline to show up at any, like, aspiration meetings or decline anything that they asked of him if it went against his beliefs. And then they never specifically defined what his beliefs were. So at any point, he could just be like, nah, I don't really rock with that. And then like, okay, like, I guess, I guess you don't have to do it anymore. They broke down the whole contract on the show. I encourage you to go watch a full episode of the Pablo Tore Finds Out podcast. It was a great breakdown, great reporting. And yeah, like Montaunton said, the contract.

clearly stipulated all these creative ways of saying he doesn't got to do shit and he's going to get a lot of money. They explicitly stated he doesn't have to do a single thing in many meaningful ways to show that this contract is stamped as a nothing contract. Here's $28 million plus $20 million in stock. And the question is, why does this matter, obviously? Because this happened at the same time as him signing an extension in 2021 where he left money on the table. He did not take the full amount he could. And if you guys remember back to that time, a lot of people were like, huh, he's doing the clippers of favor. So they can, you know, continue to load up and can you make have a good team?

And then here we are with this, a company that has weird ties to Steve Bomber, giving Kauai a weird sponsorship that makes no sense at all. And Pablo Tori got an inside source saying, on record, on her talking, somebody from the finance department saying, this is to circumvent the cap. Yeah. And this is like a humongous no-no in the NBA, obviously, because we've seen this not happened all the time, but it's happened quite a few times. the league several several times the league and every single time that's happened the league has

done some major like belt-to-ass repercussions whether it be like taking away draft picks and just placing unreal like resenting contracts and placing unreal like uh-huh man unreal belt-to-ass type of thing so it's like i'm curious to see immediately i think you'll have on the screen right there the clip producer's going to sit here and be like oh yeah this is didn't happen. This is not true. And also through this happening or coming over the last 24 hours too, Mark Cuban went ahead and was like, yeah, Steve Bomber is just entirely too smart to leave just an obvious message trail like this, which I do agree to a degree, but also this feels like very tangible stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So there is pushback where people were saying one,

so a big part of the whole report is that one of the clauses in the contract was that if you were to leave the clippers. That's the only way the contract could be defaulted on. So he doesn't got to do anything at all. You don't, this money is yours for free as long as you're a member of the clippers. And that was a clause. So people were saying, that sounds like a immediate hush money. Like what, like, what the fuck? All you got to do is be a member of the clippers. Sounds like Bomber will put that in the contract. And like you said, Mark Cuban would say, was saying that it is normal for a player to have a sponsorship with a team sponsor and the stipulation be a part of the team because they only sponsor this team. Yeah. And that makes

sense on the surface, but you see all the time that players have sponsorships with teams and they don't even show the jerseys. Like, you know, they do like when dame is on Hulu, he has like a Hulu jersey, there's a lot of stuff like that, especially with local sponsorships too, where they have a blank jersey because they don't have the rights to the team. I find it hard to believe that if they really wanted Kauai Leonard, it's aspiration really, really wanted Kauai Leonard. I find it hard to believe they'd give that much of a fuck if he's a clip or not. Yeah. And this whole thing is like, obviously it's insanely important not just because it's like oh like it's it's crazy they they pay kawai you know under the table if you are going against the cba which in any in any league

the cba is the constitution like that is that is law and so like if you are if everybody agrees like hey you are only going to pay players based on this specific amount and then you go out and you pay people outside of that specific amount you are challenging the the very fabric of what the entire league is built off of and so like that's why like balmer balmer doing this and kawai doing this if if you know the NBA and their investigation comes out and they're like yeah this actually happened it's gonna it's gonna get extremely scary and i and i'm telling you right now if you are a clippers fan go change teams because you haven't had the success to to back it up if you get caught with your owner and and your star player who barely plays and they're doing some wild

salary cap stuff yeah there's nowhere to go there's no shining light this is your time now if you think that anything is about to happen out of this switch teams make your life better because it's not it's not going to get easier after this yeah and again you say like you said the point when the NBA does their investigation which i'm sure they will do this is a big deal can't wait to see the details because the clipper stuff came out and they've denied it vehemently they've basically said hey listen if aspiration scam it and it got shit to do with us they're the scamming they're the They said, we got scammed too. That is their defense because

Aspiration scammed them. They owe them millions and millions of dollars. They're also owed money in their defaults from their bankruptcy. So that's their defense. But again, go watch the Pablo Tore thing. There is so many details that, why that sounds good on the surface, they have a lot of explaining to do about certain things that make it seem

more likely than not that there is. You know what's the funniest detail about all this? Through aspirations, whole goal and they're like their whole angle and why they exist as a company they built one singular tree they planted one singular tree

reportedly. Yeah the person probably said when they were talking to from the company said there was one check that the trees are actually being planted in her time with the company so big fraudulent company that maybe they did fuck the clippers over

the fart to me that can't get over that there's like there's reasonable defenses that you could say okay maybe it does make sense that a company that's working with the team wants to sponsor a player on the team so if he leaves a team, they know I'm going to work with them. Okay, I can understand that. I guess.

In the reportings post-bankruptcy of who they owe money to, as long as the teams, number one is the Clippers. They have like $300 million. Number two is Kawhi Leonard, above all the celebrities like I mentioned. It's owed out to an LLC named KL2 Aspire LLC. Yeah. That LLC was founded in November 2021, right when this deal started. So this LLC was set up exclusively to pay out Kawhi Leonard through Aspire.

These motherfuckers put up. aspire in the name of a new LLC. So that makes it even fissure that this whole thing was made exclusively for this and this deal that doesn't make sense outside of the context of cap circumvention. Listen, that's just, that's just Uncle Dennis being very, you know, organized. Or very organized. You know, he needs to know, this money's coming from here. This money's coming from here.

And I don't want anything to get lost. I need to know what accounts I need to go to. And that's fine. It is also funny because, like, I've, I've like you kind of also seem like some I've seen some people make the assumption of like well you know isn't this you know kind of happening with everybody like especially like when when LeBron went to went to LA everyone's like the Lakers are put in him like they're the sponsoring uh spring Hill right they're in his production it's like this is a whole like entire level of salary cap circumvention that yeah this is money for nothing like there's always going to be a team being involved with players outside of sports in ways that, like, you know, you can tangibly sell as like making sense for the owner, you know, they're doing connections like off of like schmoozing. This is straight up, here's money to do nothing.

And the company giving them money to nothing was given money by Steve Bomber. Like there's so many connections that, yeah, you can't really justify it for that way. And the reason why, to your point earlier, it's so scary to be a Clippers fan is because, of course, you're a Clippers fan. Yeah, like the, you're, you play a specific role in the NBA, but also like, like, Like, looking back and being president, looking at the current state of your team, they're not in a bad position at all. They made a ton of good offseason moves with John Collins, Brooklyn Lopez, and all that. But moving forward, you don't have any future picks at all.

And what tends to happen when it comes to consequences for moves like this that we've seen in the past? Is there like heavy restrictions, whether it be like potential contract? is being voided or the NBA resending your future draft picks. They already don't have anything. So we could be in a situation where we see the Clippers aren't able to build off of their team with any type of young talent or youth, which they don't usually do a good job anyway. But in general, like when it comes to the state that they're in right now, we could see them

without a draft pick for the next like eight years or something. Yeah. And especially, you say they don't have the draft picks normally because they trade them for winning out pieces. So less ammunition to trade. Who knows how long Kauai has left? Like, he's where every year it's 40 games a season. Like any year could be the one where he's cooked.

So if you're going to be entering a new era without him, without any young prospects, like you said, and then your picks are me gone for years. Like, it could get beyond spooky. Like, we talk about the Brooklyn Nets post big trade when they traded for KG and Paul Pierce and how they gave all the picks of the nets, I mean, to the Celtics. And they were just desolate for young talent for a long time, having to build from, I would say build from the middle, but it was more like build from the basement without the benefits of the basement. Just scraps.

Yeah. It could be that situation. Like, it could be the same. thing. I also saw like, because after the episode came out, probably so he's been going on a whole bunch of other shows, obviously, to talk about the story. And he went on, on, on Dan Patrick's show. And he said that some people afterwards, he's like, my like tip line has been blowing up with people like, hey, look into the Knicks and Janea Brunce. Because he gave up 113 million. And like, and like, and hearing that, I was like, listen, man, it is what it is. And like, obviously, doing,

doing this reporting it is it's so important obviously like in the NBA landscape but if he finds out that the Nix did something with Brunson you know stop snitching you're a snitch for the Clippers honorary reporter for the Knicks snitch

yeah and the funniest outcome would be if the Clippers really had nothing to do with this and Kauai just has some weird deal with aspiration on his own like he's like Tony Soprano force these companies that give him money for No reason.

Who is his uncle, man? They run the underworld of Los Angeles. Jeez. Because, again, if you were to believe the person that's Bablatori had on the episode, which is an aspiration accounting former employee, she said this money, this $28 million, was treated as the biggest priority in the budgeting that Kauai must get paid. All these other people were going bankrupt. We can figure out ways to skimp them and pay them in the future.

Kawhi must get paid. And it hung over the whole company. They talked about it in a like, don't ask, don't tell, type of thing. and at the point somebody told them this is to the caps her convention like this was apparently to her a big part of the company so if you were to believe her

and some reason they are paying Kauai Leonard as a priority either Bomber is cheating or Kauai is Tony Soprano and they run these motherfucking streets and they have to give them money to avoid getting their knees broken Either way some scamming's happening

Yeah either way Kauai is a hilarious individual like no matter what comes from this Kauai is interesting I just like yeah it's oh my goodness yo they actually went around the the cap and it would be once again all of this is the most like clipper thing because you are you are cheating and you don't win at all you don't get any of the benefits of going out damn like you don't even like make any long playoff run or nothing like that you don't really get any they had won and without kawai

naturally he wasn't there yeah and so and it's it's it's also funny because because some some people were like would have pa george when whenever he was saying like, listen, I want what Kauai got. He said, I need that aspiration deal right now. What do you really mean by that, Paul, George? Exactly. What are we talking about? So, this is obviously going to be a story to monitor. It's either going to get swept in the rug real fast by the NBA because they don't want

this Pandora's box opened or this is going to be a story that defines the next year because Adam Silver is the type to be very harsh on stuff like this. Like, I think he's made it pretty clear. Like, when these players gamble, they're immediately shunned a second later. Like, he's kind of a no nonsense as far as this stuff. think he's you can tell he very much cares about the reputation of the NBA and with all the he keenly understands the intersection he's at now being somebody that's opened up the doors to gambling open up the doors to wide access to players and media and the internet and all

these things he knows he's been like very liberal in that way but also understands the spotlight that comes with that seems like he knows to allow nothing and wants to make sure that the company's brand is protected so if this is real and the clippers are if there's a shred of evidence to point towards them i think they're cooked yeah because like if So if the NBA, like, does do the investigation, it's really going to be like a reopening of the investigation because remember the Clippers were under investigation for tampering. Yes. And so then like around that time, Silverer came out and said he views salary cap circumvention as a cardinal sin. And so this is, like you said, this is something that obviously like Silver cares about.

And he is like, even on like on punishments, like we're starting to see, especially when it comes to reputation. like if you go to the to the to the to the jah thing jop technically didn't like he didn't break any laws right and he didn't and he didn't do anything explicitly wrong but you playing on instagram live with guns it makes everybody look bad and so now we're going to give you this this uh this punishment and some people were like you know 25 games for not breaking the law seems kind of excessive right like a quarter of the year seems it seems a lot but but like you said the And, like, the NBA has always had this weird, like, perception and this weird, you know, a reputation and whether that be, like, the racist connotations, like, in the early 2000s, but, like, every decade,

there's something that they're always dealing with. And Adam Silver, who is somebody who has worked in the league office for a long time, obviously, has been the commissioner, was the deputy commissioner. He very real, real, like, understands how the league is viewed, how it has been viewed. 100%. And knowing that, like, in the next. 10 years, this is how people are going to view if you let this lot. Exactly. A lot

of baggage comes with being the Black Sports League. There's so many underlying racist currents with that that they don't want to play into in different ways. Yeah, this isn't that, but I think what you're saying in that way because of that plays into the whole idea of them caring as much about perception as anybody. Like the NFL let some shit

slide. I think they know their reputation is Teflon so they let these motherfuckers go out there and play that have crazy charges. They slap a six game, say a suspension on the wrist and say go for it because we know We're Teflon. We're not really getting it that type of criticism like that. Like the worst thing, the CTE stuff was a big deal.

Bate that shit. Off their chest. They're fine. NBA, like you said, for all the reasons you said, has always been harshly criticized. They know that matters a lot for them. Yeah. They need to go ahead and lay some type of law down in my mind because it's just time and time again where the weirdest things are coming from Kauai in his camp and I guess specifically

his uncle, Uncle Dennis. Because remember back in 2019, 2019, 2020. when he was a free agent he between the Lakers and the Raptors and I guess the Clippers were probably the team or were the team to go ahead and subside to that to his request he asked for like a house

he asked for like a private jet he also asked for ownership in whatever team that he wanted to sign to as well yeah that that's another reason why this looks fishy because we've seen we've heard rumors about this type of stuff exactly and like it's been fishy for years

something legitimately has to be true That's why I'm like, we're going to see some ramifications and some consequences take in effect. There's too many dots to not notice. Exactly. We have report. I remember there's a headline that none of this could be proven at the time that Genie Bust said no to legal request by Uncle Dennis.

And there's also reports that he wanted $25 million lined up in sponsorships from the Raptors owner if he were to stay. And these were just like reports that were like tied. 25 mil. Oh, same number. So like this type of stuff. He added that extra $3 million for inflation. Uncle Dennis is on it.

Not inflation. Los Angeles taxes. either way he's I need just a little bit more I have my number we're going to get to it and when there's smoke there's goddamn fire

and I smell some heat yeah yeah someone's going to jail all right that's that story next thing to talk about real quick before we get to the main topic

cam Thomas finally has a contract one of the many restricted free agents that have been waiting to get paid he has been paid and he has been paid the absolute minimum

he could have been paid he is accepting a qualifying offer which is $6 million to play next year which gives is a baked in no trade clause, so he can't be moved this year, but he will be an unrestricted free agent next year. It's reported that the Nets offered him a two-year $30 million deal and a one-year, $15 million deal that wouldn't have had a trade clause so they can move

him. This is, he's easily, I don't want to, I don't even know if this is the right word. I wanted to say polarizing player in the NBA. Oh, yeah. But I feel like there's, like, just in general, a wide group of people who see who he is as a player. He has, like, he's one of the strongest at certain things on the court, but also has, like, a lot of weaknesses. And he feels like he is one of those guys in the league. And I think he is a guy in the league, maybe not one of the guys. And for him to go ahead and like basically lose out on this long battle that was going on between him and the front office, it's just like quite telling. And it's also like if in my mind, if I was into it, I'd be like, damn, bro, like my ego just kind of got diminished, struck a little bit because just a couple months ago or maybe it was like a last month or so.

You guys remember when there was like a whole thing between him and Zach. we saw like a quote and he was like sacklow don't know shit blah blah and now this just finally happened too so sad stuff to see i it's like it is it is sad because like we're like sad but like yeah it's it's i i'm i'm okay with it just because right now i don't feel like a lot of teams like to to go get somebody in restricted for agency a lot of times you have to you have to overpay so that you make sure that like the team doesn't match the offer right and so And so, like, if you are overpaying for Cam Thomas and you are a winning team, like, we know, Cam Thomas isn't going to be a guy that is going to score 25 a night for you and

be your number one offensive creator and you're going to, like, win a lot of basketball games. That's probably not going to happen. But now, like, if he can, if he can stay healthy, you have the entire year to bet on yourself and then you have your pick and you, and there are going to be more teams that have a little bit more cap space. and as teams like as we start to actually figure out how to move with with the second apron and teams start like their entire book start to shift i don't think it's a i don't think it's a terrible terrible spot for him to be in but like there's a positive way to spin it and honestly man get out of brooklyn and you are good like i like get on brook and go beware go be good

where yeah i'm glad you mentioned that so that's one question is where's the right fit for him Even next summer as an unrestricted free agent, where's the right foot for Cam Thomas? Really hard to find. We can talk about that. But you mentioned the second apron. He's probably the first victim of the second apron. Because I think six years ago, some shitty team would have gave him a $30 million offer just to see what happens. And we have money to spend.

We're not going anywhere. If I'm, I don't know, the jazz or whatever that's perpetually rebuilding, let's take a bet on Cam Thomas. What's the worst that going to happen for a two-year, $30 million a year deal? But now every single team understands that if they have aspirations of being relevant in a few years, which every team hopefully does, besides the Nets who are entering tank mode. But every team knows that when they want to get relevant, they can't afford to give Cam Thomas,

who's currently not a good, impactful player to winning. They can't afford to give that much money in the second apron environment. And that's probably directly what caused the lack of interest, I think. It's, I mean, yeah. Well, I say that, but also the fact that he's not positively impactful right now in winning ways.

That's also the big part. It's hard. It's hard to be positively impactful when you are in his, when you're his archetype of player, but also in one of the worst situations that the league could ever offer a young player as well. Do you think he's in the worst situation

for his archetype in the past few years? I don't know if he is. For the type of player he is where like you're all about your bucket and you don't necessarily have the vets to go ahead and steer you or put you in the right position to go ahead and win. You don't have like, you didn't grow with any young point guard along your side.

The only young piece who you have around you is something like Nick Claxton where he's like nice, but you don't really like go ahead and there's no duel between you two. at all. I think he is generally for his archetype. Yeah. And that's the, that's the best thing. I think like, well, not the best thing, but like, that's the

key thing in this entire discussion. It's like, his archetype of player is one where like, and you see it every 10 years, you see it in every era, there's some type of player that eventually gets phased out of the league. And so, like, you go back 10, 15 years ago, it's like, there's no more

Brandon Bass is. And then like, the tweeners. Right, the tweeners. And then you have guys like mellow in your, your, your, So mid-range scores who are doing that, we've seen this year, and over the last couple years, if you are, if you are not 6-5-66, right? If you are a regular-sized guard and you are about your bucket, you're not really giving a lot on the, on the defensive side of the ball, teams aren't really going to go for that. Like Colin Sexton is averaging 18 points a game and got traded for NERCITs, and they had to,

they had to attach stuff to Sexton to go get NERCITs. like teams are not really value in that right now. The best version of that, the best player who like exemplifies that is someone like Zach Levine in my mind where like he is about his bucket. Yeah, he's at the top end of that. Yeah, exactly. And there's nothing else that he pretty much offers outside like a little bit of playmaking, which makes him again like the top end of that product.

Yeah. Now you mention that they really are like these type of bucket getting shooting guards really are the new tweeters because these days you either have to be your lead ball handler, your main go to score that's good enough to be the guy in a team or you got to be a guy who can play defense and play off ball. He's the definition of a tweeter because he's not good enough to be the main guy but doesn't do the offball stuff.

He is Brandon Bass. That's exactly who he is. Because it's the, and we talked about it as the playoffs were going on. And I forgot who tweeted out, but you have, again, you have errors in the NBA. And so you have your superstar.

You have your dynamic duo era. We had a big three error in like super team, whatever. Right now, a lot of people are calling this era like the weak link. Because you know once you get to a, to a player, situation or a playoff series of what what you are going to do is like offensively a lot of times

who out here can't play defense you come here you get into the action we are going to attack you every single time as much as we possibly can and so like if you put cam thomas on on the thunder and even with those those four guys they're going to be in a situation where like nemhart's going to look at him you saw the way he looked at shame if he saw cam thomas in the finals he's doing he's hesy hesy tween twines all the time and he's going to attack him so if you do have aspirations of high level winning you'd much rather say all right this guy this guy probably doesn't have the ceiling of getting me 18 points per game can he get me 12 and play solid defense for 18 to 20 minutes he can bet he's on my team instead of instead of this other guy who has

the ceiling camp thomas has dropped 40 in right he's yeah he's a very very talented score but you know that like if your second or third guy can look at camp thomas and say he's food in the playoffs he's probably not going to be on your roster yeah and i guess the next logical step from this is what does this mean for the other restrictive free agents that are currently every time this happens in the summer when there's restricted guys that go into the late off season they're kind of waiting to get their deals it's kind of a let's see what happens with the rest of my class the restricted free agency this doesn't go well for them i it doesn't fuck them but it doesn't help them at all you know they're all kind of waiting for a shoe to drop and hope Hopefully one guy gets lucky. The rest of our teams have to follow suit. Kaminga, you're just time to keep on waiting because this does absolutely nothing for you. What they have to do is you have to get into a stance. That's really it.

And like I've slapped the ground. I do feel bad because Cam Thomas has gotten the opportunity that, and specifically if we're talking about Kaminga, Camt Thomas has gotten the opportunity that Kaminga wants, which is. Oh, he would love to be Camp Thomas in the Nets. Right? Like, please, I promise you, I can score 20.

And people are like basically telling Kaminga like, I'm sure you can. We don't need you to score 20. We don't want you to do that. And he's like, but please, like I promise I can. And so for everybody else, like they're trying to prove these things that nobody really cares about in this moment. And so now you have to figure out how am I going to fit in? How am I going to be in this rotation? And so I have no idea what happens with Kamega because where he thinks he is and can be is so far on the opposite side of where Golden

state season and probably where a majority of the of the league season the obviously like the highlighting aspect of his i guess of his archetype or of his potential is i'm one of the i'm one of the more athletic players in the league and i'm still super young let me go to your team and show you what i can do and they're like that's just not what we need for me so i think like for him it's going to be weird for cam obviously he just he just signed this new deal it's going to be weird but yeah everybody else do you do you have to find your role and you have to figure You have to fall in line of what the rest of the league is telling you that they need you to do. There is a meta in the league and get with it or get out unless you are truly a superstar.

And maybe he is. Maybe it's on top potential. I'm sure he believes that to be the case. Yeah. If you've heard his comments on Twitter over the offseason, seeing him talk about a situation, I'm not sure his opinion is necessarily in line with everybody else's. I don't know if he has necessarily the most objective viewpoint on his career, which how could he, you know? It's his career.

So I don't blame him. But it doesn't feel like this is going to a story that's going to end well for him. Yeah. When it comes to guys like him specifically because he has things that the other qualifying offer guys like Jonathan Cominga and Quinn Grimes doesn't have, which is the unlimited opportunity he's playing with like seven point guards. How could he not go ahead and get a bucket? He has like one of the biggest far basement doors in NBA conversation in NBA world.

He has like the biggest prove it to me year ever this upcoming year with the Nets. For sure. We'll see how this goes. We'll see how it goes for Caminga for Grimes. Did he already get paid? Why am I forgetting?

No, Giddy didn't get paid either. There's so many rumors of him getting paid. Like he actually has numbers that are being reported. So I forgot if he's got signed or not. Yeah.

All three of those guys, we'll see what happens. That's actually kind of shocking too that that Giddy hasn't gotten paid just because of how the bulls normally move. Yeah. And like, and when it comes to like the group of these guys,

he probably deserves to get paid the most. He's like actually, he has actual tangible things that they can like be like, I'd much rather pay Grimes personally. I would too, but I think when it comes to what he's actually done and throughout the totality of the year, he probably deserves it. I guess, because look who we're comparing them to.

But if I'm the Bulls, I mean, like, well, one, this is just hardball. I think they're going to keep them. It's just a matter of how the negotiations go. Nobody wants to give up leverage. So they're going to, you know, use the full time they have as a restrictor free agent to get the best deal. That's really end-all be all. But if I was a smart GM, which I know the Bulls don't have.

But if they was, I wouldn't be excited to pay Josh Getty max value after a, half of the season in which he shot 42% from three. Yeah. And that's my point is that they normally are on the opposite side of that. They normally are like, he shot 42% in the second half of the season. He's a shooter now. That's super repeatable, yeah. Yeah.

And so like they normally are on this side of like, yeah, they gave Patrick Williams $90 million. Jeez, man. Right? Like they gave him that. And so if you just think that Chicago would be on top of it. So he is the one where it is kind of shocking that that deal hasn't gotten done yet. Yeah. Yeah, the guy who's like the most, who has the most unfortunate situation outside of Kaminga for obvious reasons we talked about for years.

And that is Grimes because he was really good, but only for a certain sector of the year. And some of the feel feels real, but then other parts of it was just like, I don't really know about it. And then on top of that, too, he will not have like as much opportunity to go ahead and have a free canvas to go ahead and paint his game on because there's Jared McCain, Tyrese Maxie, Joe, who knows the hell is going to happen with Joel M. B.B. But there's other guys BJ Edgecom who you'd rather prioritize with their skills in development than Quentin Grimes was like

26 or 27 years old. You just reminded me of when we interviewed Baron Davis and we were asking him about like his skill set compared to the guys and he was like, I paint. I've never heard someone to say that. I paint. That's so hard. That was his version of like I eat or whatever. Yeah. Never heard that. It was hard.

I paint. And he was like, I paint. I paint. me that's so hard he was i lean back i paint dude i'm gonna say that next time i'll play someone one-on-one i paint but yeah i i don't know i'm acquit grimes is also another guy where i'm i'm with you i think if i if i was a gym if i just had those three guys lined up grimes would easily be the one where like the value would be the best in terms of having somebody who you didn't have to pay crazy crazy money and they're like grimes

we all know you got the opportunity because everybody died on the 60s last year if you go to an actual team it's not going to be like that we're not going to ask you to score 40 to score 25 a night so your role is a little bit more defined and so that just makes it easier to bring him into an actual team building complex as opposed to cam thomas who's like hey listen i'm a walking bucket and then josh giddy who you have no idea if what he did was actually real or if he's just You can't Thomas just be fine me, bro. He'd be like, yeah, man, I'm the best score in here. Nice.

That means you're better than all of us. I can yell the loud of us here. I don't mean nothing. Yeah, we'll see how this goes. Let's move on to our next topic. It is time for the main topic you guys saw in the intro, in the title. We are going to redraft the entire NBA. We're going to control three teams in the redraft of all 30.

As you see on screen, we have a pull-up in 2K-26. We have the Hawks. The Lakers and the Knicks as three of the team selected. And yeah, we're going to control these three teams amongst the rest of them. The draft order will be random. I don't know what spots we're going to get. We're good. I think I'm going to build a way better team, y'all.

I think I'm going to really show you guys my team rebuilding skills. I literally was on 2K doing this shit last night, man. Damn. You've been grinding? Okay, so going into it now, the Spurs of the first pick. Where's our first pick? Oh, I have the number eight pick. You're number eight.

I'm number nine. Oh, I got cooked. Yeah, we don't know where Mo is, but it's snake draft. So whoever, you know, is... How's the best second option, potentially? Okay, so first off, Donovan's up first? Yeah. Well, let's view the draft summary.

So every time, make sure review draft summary. First off, Yokish went number one, Wembe one number two, Yon is number three, Shea number four, Luca five, and six, Tatum seven. Okay, that makes sense. Seltz has got their white savior. Back on top with NB history. You know, this is kind of in line of when we did our value rankings,

I put, we talked about Yokch first Wembe. Yeah. So the CPU decided Yokch is more valuable than Wembe, because he's, you know, the best part of the world for, five more seasons. Yeah. This feels like our exact like top or at least my exact top

four, five. Choose players. Yes. Who's available? LeBron! Oh, see, this is crazy. Yeah. This is crazy because this is right where we were in our, in our rate, in about eight. And I forgot who I put in at like eight. But I think I had like Mobley.

Mobley was up there for me. So yeah, you can consider the young guys. You can pick the old vets. You can go in the middle-tier guy like Darry Mitchell. Or you can go with your guy, Jill and Brunson, if you really bought it. Okay, so honestly, I think for me right now, it's either I'm going Brunson, Cade, or I would go with Mowgli. Palis Bacquil's right there. He is. Well, Mowgli would be a good bet.

You know, someone who's going to continue to grow with you. That's a good player to pillar your team around. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. It's actually missed out on the top seven picks. Yeah, I know. This is. guys we're all in the middle but you know what

I need somebody I don't even see my name up there yet or my team of 20s I'm like god damn pick 29 bruh yeah I don't know who you're gonna start with I don't I have no idea but there are Go with your guy go Zid and Ivy and you love Palo go with Palo go with Palo I'm I'm gonna go with Mobley here

Okay wait where's where's Chet Go with Chet Where's Chet there is Chit's at a 88 overall 88 Yep damn no face can chat that's tough Oh yeah that is crazy Yeah we're going go ahead do it man i put a time on you man i take moby my bad i'll take mobile all right okay so mobile here's your pillar that that makes sense you miss out on the premier guys that are the

go-to-ball handlers so you go with the guy there that's yeah one of the better defensive anchors you can imagine and then you're next okay 20 24 d p oi i i do feel like i just had to i had to shirt that out because there's so many guards that you can choose from and still be pretty solid yeah i would like to go tyree's haliburton but i'm going to treat it with the real life knowledge that we know that he tore the Achilles and that brings enough of a question mark that I don't know what to do I would I wish joel and Bede was bro how far as him be going to drop in this I don't know I mean the CPU's probably going to take me yeah the cp u's going to take his ass for sure I'm not going to pick kawai I'm not going to pick kawai man you pick mowgli I think

i'm gonna go okay cuttingham I want to have a go-to ball handler that I think is continue to develop into a superstar on my team brunson's a little bit too old tiberton won achilles kidd is a nice mix here. I want an on-ball player to build the round just from my own style right now. Okay. That's funny. I feel like we flipped on like normally how we like see teams and see like value. Now the press is really on your. God.

Now we're simming. Donna Mitchell, Anthony Davis. Steph Curry went number 13. Fuck, right. Where are you at? Haliborne goes 14. You're low. Jesus Christ. Who am I going to be picking? Jaden Ivy? What the fuck? Yeah, you were really low. But again, it's stake draft. So you'll have two players of that similar to your. And there's more than 30 stars to go around. So LeBron

finally went at 18 to the Wizards. I mean, but you're You're getting, honestly, I think I think you're going to be fine because all the old players are drafted anyway. So like, you're not going to have to make that. You're at 22. So what if I wanted to make that pick? Let's review the drafts that went after my pick.

I went with Kay Cunningham at pick number nine. Anthony Davis goes immediately after that. That makes sense. He still has like four years left. If you want to build around that in a win now mode, I understand that. Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Brunson. We've always viewed them as I'm right next to each other

in these rankings. So that makes sense. Curry going 13 and then immediately followed by Kevin Durant two picks later. That makes sense. Yeah, we get the older going. The LeBron James at 18. That's actually very shocking.

Makes sense. Devin Booker still is on the, it's still on the board. Kaui Leonard's gone. Carlton Town is gone. Kyrie Irving at 21 is crazy. But he's ready not doing it overall in the game, so I guess that makes sense. Coming off.

All right. Yeah. See, they're not fact that the injuries aren't in on this. So they don't know. Like Tatum went really high. I don't think I could have turned that on, but I wish I could have. Yeah.

Where are you going? Keep on. You have 22. That means you'll also have. have 38 or 39, something like that. Okay. So keep in mind. Yeah, take him beat.

I got an bead. Devon Booker immediately has to be like... Hey, Trey Young's right there. Yeah, Trey Young's right there. Jalen Will, J-dub also should take towards the top. He's not really about it. He's, if you don't take Trey, you have no Hawks credibility. What the fuck are you talking on?

He's going to spend back to me as well. I don't know he will. Oh, man, this is a low tier right here. Well, take... Okay, I think the obvious pick for me is to go ahead and grab me someone like Devin Booker. Okay, that's kind of like the Navajo Mitchell pick earlier where like he's the age, he still has more years left, but he's win now.

Yeah, exactly. So he's just going to build the sons. Yeah, the 26th best team. Okay, J-dub, M-B. Oh, Shailman, Frank, went, fuck. Trey went 26. Yeah, I don't know why you thought he was going to come back. I meant Thompson, 27, and then Chet 28.

Wow. Okay. Lillard 29. See, they're not talking about these Achilles injuries. Damn. Okay. Derek White. Derek White over Jerry Jackson, Jr.

Derek White's rated 80 overall. That's fucking outlandish. Franz Vox. Gees, bro. This is rough. If you could have paired Franz Wagner with Devin Booker, you would have, that would have been a filthy start. Okay.

Ooh, Zion just went. Zion and Pascal. Hansiakum, your guy. Yeah, okay. So my first pair got Devin Booker. Okay, so Lonzo Balls here. Again, this is 2K. This pick is huge for you because you're not going to draft from a long time.

You're really going to have a two-star lineup. After this year, going back to role players. Yeah, exactly. You're going to have the best combination. You're going to have the best second star of us by far. You better pick someone that fits. Yeah, most definitely. So Darius Garland, he's good.

he's elite now will be great in the future too so that's a very very safe pick um so he definitely is towards a top of my draft what do you think about sabonis favorite devon booker can you go to hell no i'm seriously like i mean i know you feel but like you're trying to screw me right now he's that i'm not even joking sub bonus and booker be a good fit the off ball guard with the arm ball center not a bad pick at all i'm trying to see if there's any young players who i know what if i like took me a cooper flag or something like that they wouldn't be good for the year one uh sim yeah it wouldn't be for year one but long term I might be cooking okay yeah I don't think I'm going to be picking any of these players over here at all so I think I might have to end up with

darius garland okay welcome Garland and Booker yeah nice shifty back court you're not started with defense a lot of buckets but you got a lot of buckets to go around yeah not important for me at all Randall Reeves went number in round two to 10 right above a mellow ball That's an interesting debate. Ah, dude, I wasn't pick Cooper Flag. There we go. Yeah. Oh, Cooper Flag just went to the Thunder at 14.

I was, I think I was going to pick him. Damn it. I almost wanted to, but I was like, yeah, I can't let Darius go and slide past by me. I was 100% going to pick them. Okay. Damn. Here we go. All right.

So let's be this draft. This is where the draft really starts. Yeah. Brandon Ingram just went, Tyler Hero, Dyson, Daniels, Stefan Castle. Norm Powell went second round. The fuck? What are the Houston Rockets cooking? What the fuck?

Porzingis went second round. What are the Deroz cooking? DeRosen went second round. De Marder Rosen has no business here at all. We got some bad GEMs. Man, I really want a Cooper flag. Okay. Too bad.

That ruins my plan. Okay. So I'm picking it right before Donovan. Oh, I get to snipe Donovan. Let's go. Who am I going to take? Jimmy Bullard. Not a chance.

He's not going to be there for a minute. Max could be interesting, but he doesn't fit with Kay. Take your boy. Take your boy. I don't know who my boy is in the sound text. Not picking Jamal. Not picking LaVine. Scotty and Kay.

would be a good fit. Maybe I would like Scotty Barnes here. We've got Jaredown. Lowry. Lowry marketing intrigues me of pairing him with Kate Cunningham. How old is he? He's 28. That's, that's a window.

That's manageable. Rudy Gober is right there. That's your goal. That's your top 30 center of all time. I'll pick Rudy Gober next round. I'm between Laudry marketing and Scotty Barnes. Oh, Jen and O'Jennon. I think did you have Rudy in your top 30 in your...

I think I did. Did you top 30 back half? Yeah. I want to make sure I have. some good score next to Kay. I don't want him to have to be the only go-to score. And I feel like Cade and Scotty Barnes

kind of occupy a similar role in mind where I want them to like focus on playmaking with another elite score. Yeah. And what Kate is a great score, I want Scottie Barnes to be with like a go-to score that's really efficient.

So I'm going to pick Lovie Markington to pair with Kaye cutting him. I want big positional versatility pass it over to him. I think in real life, I don't know how a two-gat simulation can feel about that. That's a nasty duo.

Yeah. Let me just, let me just double check here. Make sure I'm doing the right thing. All right. So I have Evan Mobley. Who do I want to be his co-star? Maxi?

That's what I'm saying? Maxie's intriguing. Maxi could have combined some of why Garland and why Donald Mitchell Fitwell with Mobley. So, see. Who, Jared Allen, you pair them together again? See, I don't know if I want to do that. I think I want to have Mobley at my five.

I think I want to play him there. But I do want to have, you know what? yeah let's just go maxi because i i know that i need a guard i need somebody who can who can score and that one-two combination i don't i don't hate that okay no that's the best but you you kind of got he's the only young also i left on here for that you yeah feel good about for that position so i will go with tyrese maxi so we got maxi and mowbly right now that's a good start kind of cooking who'd you have you had i have darius garland and devon no they took my son o g uh look at the king's taking jalen green messing up again

King's doing King's things. It don't matter. Real life or fake. Okay, rolling back around. Start around three. Jimmy Butler, Jamal Murray, go. Deere Fox goes. Alexander Sarr goes.

Okay. They believe in him. I believe in him. Dude, Jalen Duren goes, right? So, dude, Jared Allen, one pick up of Jalen Dern. Crazy value. Wow. O'Sar went.

Dan, you almost got Jared Allen on the way back around three. Deer Foxville so far. I know. That's shocking to me. Dude, if you could have got Jared Allen around three to go double bigs with a guard, that would have been filled Yeah. I'm just building the cabs.

Yeah, yeah. You got close to it. All right, here we go. Nix, let's choose our player. Okay, so you have both pillars. Are you going to go with the Ford in between? I mean, let's see, let's see who else. Oh, they got my boy Josh, giddy here.

You know what I'm saying? Lock up. Getty in the building. Let's get giddy with it. Like, is it to a club of kids? Yeah. All right. So we have.

We have our point guard. See, what I would like to do is, wait, how tall is, how tall it sucks? Six five? Six five. Mm-hmm. Would I be okay putting Sugs at the two and having Maxi and Suggs? Because having Suggs in Mowbly? Nasty.

Filled as defense is nasty. That's a good start. So, okay, so right now, what I'm thinking is, Suggs is on my short list. Aaron Gordon is on my short list. And because I feel like I can find enough offense. You know Nicole Vucevitz or tired today? From international play Oh, I thought it was NBA

No, he's still playing an NBA It's so weird, okay Right, so I think Don't Denny? Denny's a good thing Paul George Maybe not Denny Maybe Tamani

Listen, I'm out My eyes on Tumani Listen, I'm considering Jalen Johnson Hey, don't you fucking dare Hey, Big Jail Johnson I'll stop the shout of you with my clock With my clog man

No you know what we're gonna We're gonna get some Some great defense here Okay And I think we're gonna go Yeah, we're just going to have this young team We're going to have two great defenders to start it off His shooting is decent enough

We're going to take Jalen Suggs here Okay My turn I'm between two players right now I was looking at the draft where you were going I have K8 at my point guard And I have Larry Marknan My secondary score

I wanted to play Power Ford for sure I know he played three I really wanted to So I'm going to get a I need a rim protector That I feel good about long term And I see Walker Kessler right there That intrigues me

I couldn't go Gobert But he's a little bit too old If Gobert is 31 I would have picked him You don't think he's gonna age gracefully I think he's already not easily This year we saw the physical decline A little bit

Miles Turner's right there He just came from the NBA finals man No no no no If I was playing to try to game the system And win the year one simulation I'd pick Gobert But I'm gonna treat it Like I don't know

We're doing year one simulation Moving forward I don't want Gober Over Walker Kessler But then again Walker Kessler isn't super proven So it's not like that would be insane To pick Gober Don't want Cam Johnson

I'm praying I can get a ceiling play here somehow And most I'm looking at mostly floor plays But know who might be a ceiling play Who? Trey Murphy the 3rd And for some offense Jaden McDaniels I don't know how much of a ceiling is Jada McDaniel? I don't know

He's 6'10 If I have him Larry Marketing and Kay My team is gigantic That is a very good I bet I can find another rip protector next round I'm taking a risk because I do like Walker Kessler and I want I want a like needle moving room

detector, but this is crazy size, and Cade's a good point guard defender. Jadenny McDaniels has a two-way punch. Trey Murphy, it's not as proven defensively. I don't think he'll ever be as good at J. McDaniels. And I don't necessarily need tons of offensive juice here. So I'm gonna go Jaden. Okay, that's a pretty safe pick.

Pretty safe. I'm building. I'm building the biggest team I possibly can. Oh, Go Bear goes. Gessler goes, yeah. Damn. Denny O'Dia goes. Shit. Miles Turner. You're probably going to get Jalen Johnson if you want him, which isn't a bad pick in this range. Okay. I was thinking about Jalen Johnson. No, Josh.

get he went no Derek lively okay listen I'm getting kind of nervous because these bar is gone yeah

Zachary rich and say no too money no damn it was probably mistake to not go center there yeah I was never gonna get too money

but it hurts that he's gone ah man Ben Ben's still here oh that's value that is very good value sadly I cannot go in an occupying

because I got debug and Darry's going so I'm not even going to think about that you need a defender for sure yeah Aaron Gordon's right there.

Aaron Gordon's a great defender. He's great, but he's 30 years old. True. I mean, but you have Booker. You're not, you're not necessarily playing the long game. You're kind of a win-down team. Listen, Loki. That book is 27 years old.

I get years. No, but that's exactly the point. Yeah, he's in his prime right now. Yeah. So, yeah, you're not trying to play the long game here. Like, you obviously have long game to you. But you also want to, you have three more years of prime, prime, prime. And Loki, listen, you make the right pick here.

You can make a run. in year one yeah most i most definitely can i most definitely can i think we're all fucked though because i think the year one simulation is going to reward the top players and none of us got them yeah yeah well at least you can see who went furthest between us yeah okay so right now i have darius garland and then i have devon booker i need to start filling out brother bro aran gordon is right there erin gordon is right there but guess what i think what i have to do not read bro hartnstein's right there welcome home brother jalen johnson yeah no that's a good pick naturally Two-way play.

Give me a two-way player. My first elite defender on this list. Elite's a stretch, but yeah, good defender. Not a stretch of 2K, man. Your first good defender, for sure. Ben Matherin, round three, okay. Tarison, okay. John Collins.

That's a good pick. Khalil Ware, okay. Wow, okay. Into round four. Vucevic is the first player out the board. Yuck. Missy. Dude, our center is pretty trash.

Dilla Harper? Oh, Dylan Harper, round four is kind of a steal. For longer than value. Nemhart was still here. I did not look for Finally, okay, Bain finally goes Okay, now I need a fucking center I need a center

I think Hardinstein is still there He is still there Hardinstein is still there 27 year old Hardinstein is still there Bro, nozreed is right there But you could circle back at Aaron Gordon still And put Jalen Johnson to four and three No, I'm not doing that

I need, yeah I need I need shooting on this team I need spacing Bro Paul Drew is right there I'm good on that I don't know you're one and two of spacing You need size more than anything Wiggins bro bro brookelopez is right here to fuck oh kegan murray can make sense for you get out of my face man yeah

i think i might i need to probably try oh yeah take you that's my guy now you got to my off-season darling you need to take him right now oh dionre aton's here as well you're saving great yeah i'm not doing that hey fucking i'll take him you know what value pick i think i might go nick claxton that's not bad actually i don't know if i love that though if someone was here if like If For Zingles was here, I would take him in a heartbeat, but he's not. So I think for straight up value purposes, what he does. Yeah, damn. Straight up value purposes.

I think he would go Nick Classen. I think he's going to age gracefully, elite defender already perimeter into all that, alongside Darius Garland, Jalen Johnson, and Devin Booker. Very switchy team. Not a bad, not a bad picture. Him and Jalen Johnson is your 4-5. It's kind of small in the ass. It's kind of like light that like you might get push around the boards a little

bit, but you'll be very versatile. I think I like where I'm at right now. I like that if you had big guards, I think, or like some big wings. Mm-hmm. Because, like, I feel like if you're going to lean into those lighter bigs, you need to be like big along around. But guess what? We're dumb fast.

Yeah. We're dumb fast. Yeah. So it was either between him or home side. Herbert. Neesmith, no. I was actually thinking about him. Keegan Murray.

Okay. My turn? Yeah. But La Cula Bolly just went. So I have Jaden McDaniels, Larry Mark. Paul, George, still. He's going to be here forever. And nobody wants Michael Porrester.

Junior is annoyed ass there's Dante Murray still here not a bad pick Lou Dort is interesting because I'm going big and

defensive heavy yeah oh if I had K Dort Dort's my smallest defender that could be interesting

that's not bad C.J. McCollum I need a I need a two to five I really need a five though with how much I care

about interior defense I need a five once a time ago DPOI candidate Can I how do I change my position? Yeah

it's I think it's square No one or I won. Nope, squared. No, I press square. Square. I'd press squared. Square to flip the list.

Could you're on name. It's cool. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry, but overall, cool. So, uh, I could go Aiden.

Yeah, I told you Ait's there. Mitchell Robinson, like, there's no real needle movers. Like, Daniel Gafford. Yacapoto's there. I guess. He's going, Aiton. Yacapoto's 30. Yeah.

But he's a good 30, though. He's going to age gracefully. Hmm. And the type of center I need You know No, because I need someone that can be a pick and roll guy Aiton's not the right fit for Cain Oh, Tim Lord's right there

Let's go Donovan Clinging Let's do a ceiling play at center Give me someone that can be a generational Rim Protector I need that I need that So right now I have What's my team looking like?

So I have Maxi I have Suggs and I have Mowblee Okay, so Let me see Choose my player All right so if I'm going forward three and a four because again i'm i'm playing moby at the five yeah my team is gigantic right now clinging seven two also this is ridiculous like we're putting josh hard's at powerful that's

bullshit yeah his three point shooting's at a b love that okay so three three and a four i feel like i need some more offensive punch you definitely do between you can't you can't relon tyrese max is the number one yeah i feel like i i need a little bit more like creation Porter Jr. is right there when you talk about some with creation. Listen. You embody that. Listen, loki. Low key, I might have to go get PG. Oh, no. I might have to do it. If I have, if I have Maxi.

If it's Maxi Suggs, PG, insert four here, Mowgli. We can, we can work with that. I like what you cooking. Yeah, we can work with that. That may be Caruso also. If I just say like, forget offensive. Yeah. Yeah, we're just going to have some nasty defense. I might do that.

Okay. But honestly, I need more, more creation. And so. Paul George is right there. Go ahead and say. Do I want to do this? He's going to go next hour after you. So might as well.

I can't see him in a Knicks uniform. I can't do it. I don't care if it's fake. Paul George isn't too bad of a pick, though, for like, if he's like your fourth option. That's what I'm saying it's not a bad pick. I just can't see it. I think if he's not going to be there for my next pick. If he is, I'll pick him.

I can't. You're letting Paul Dorts fly. Wow, that's crazy. You know what? That would have been tremendous value. I don't care. We're going to lock people down. Okay.

Give me Lou Dort. I don't know if salary cap is on or not. That's going to get funny at the end if we're not thinking about Salazar. That's so funny. I go Lou Dort. Okay. So who's your team now? So now I have Maxi, Maxi, Suggs, Dort.

Insert four here, Mobley. Worst offense here. Hey, your offense sucks. No, I know. I know. Hey, I'm not gonna lie you're not cooking shit Get him off the fucking grill

Listen I haven't pressed yes You just press it You already said it Alright man we're taking door Don't let me dissuade you We're taking door Okay Oh God

Listen Maxie We're ready to make that leap You're about to be a star Geez man The fate of your franchise in his hands Caminga goes round four Into round five Oh, Donovan's up next

Oh wow I need that I need that Andrew Wiggins goes Michael Porter Jr. finally goes. Oh, no. Okay, I was actually going to take PG. If he came back, I would have did it. Okay, so you need as much offensive punch

as you can possibly get as your last player on your starting lineup. Yes, but I need a power forward. Hey, Miles Bridges is right there. Go for it. All right. Yeah. Hey, huh.

Hold, you're going to scroll past every single center. Yeah, let me do it. You want to go back to overall. Oh, my goodness. Here we go. Unk, unc, unc. I know. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.

Hey, put Russell Westbrook in power forward. I could do that. It's a good vet. You are right. Tobias Harris is there? I don't want Tobias Harris. I could take... Hey, I'll be topping.

I want to take Rui? Drew's not a bad pick. You're kind of in the gutter. Played Thompson. Oh, PJ Washington. Still no creation, but at least you have spacing. Yeah, that is use. That is offensive fun.

He can't create a little bit. Okay. So listen, short list. We got PJ Washington. Take Chris Millison's all. That's Listen, I'll take Al Horford right now How are you going to skip

Right past by Paul, George, or Chris Paul and not saying nothing? My bad. This is the farewell tour. Go on now. Yo, this is not looking good for me. This is not looking good for me. Oh, bad.

I'll just take the permanent four. Just take Harrison Barnes. Yeah, go for it. That fits. Dante. Kuzma, Kuzma, Kuzma. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ooh, that's on Yamboseli.

Hey, Loki. He would be a dick. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. We might just have to take. I don't want to do. I don't want to take. Kyle Filpowski. That's offensive punch and Mowgli can hide him.

He's a great. Lokey, Mowgli and Philopowski would be a good fit. Yeah. I think I'm going to just take him to Deli. Okay. Okay. You're just going all in on defense. It might be that.

It might be that. If Tyreys Maxie was James Harden, your team would be good. And you know what? I believe in him He is I believe in him Where's PJ Washington Right there

There we go Let's take PJ Washington Okay Okay my turn I need a two guards I don't think I've left I have Jamie Gennels The two

Lakers are on the clock Ah Assignment's tight You don't feel good at all He hates his team He always took the worst dude At all Because I try to be mad nerdy about it

And I was like Emubley is very valuable I should have taken the bucket It's about a bucket Your team is not, I should have taken Palo. That's all me, game.

You bet on your morals, but I can't believe you, brad. I need another score. I don't want Kate to be the only on-ball score. Let's run this back tomorrow. I could go Jordan Pool.

That's a great bucket. Fred Van Lee. I could just go all in on defense and get Caruso. I think he'd be kind of filthy. But he's 31, bro. Yeah. But it's okay. Like,

you're still going to have like two, three years of decent caruso. I really kind of, I kind of want Clay Thompson for fit, but he's 35. So, like, he might retire soon. Yeah, just straight up.

But Caruso, Cade, Clay Thompson, Jada McDaniels. Because I want to be huge still. So I want a tall shooting guard. But I really need more creation because I'm not getting shit from offensively from my center. Lyra Marketing is a good score, but I don't want him to ball handling. I don't want Kate to be the only dribbler. But your team is not explosive at all.

Jay McDaniels. No athleticism. You need someone who can jump out the gym. I got a man right there. Jamie Dallas athletic. Lyme marketing. Lyme is explosive. What do you mean?

I've never heard anyone Call Larry Mark He's not a bad athlete But no one's saying Larry Mark's expulsive Because he's seven feet tall So he's not gonna jump like Zion But I'm saying

And he's not even because he's white Because he's from over there Yeah Yeah Jordan Poole would be a good Offensive fit with Cade I agree That would alleviate so much stress off of Cade

Yeah But I'm kind of okay With stressing Cade out a little bit If the defense is just fucking gnarly Man you're just like the pissons I can go Drew Holiday I can go Drew Holiday or Clay Tom

Thompson um sheish man probably probably clay like if you need some you need some shooting you're gonna take an old guy anyways you might as well let's go win now and be big and have shooting and pick and pick and pick a young shooting guard to develop to be the next starter okay but clay toss is my fifth option for the next few years I can rock with that for two years I think yeah I think that's perfectly fine how many rounds we got well there's 15 players in our roster oh we're doing the whole 14 rounds yeah that's what this is on 2K oh yeah top 11 It says 14 rounds. Okay, got you.

So we got a little while. Okay, so we got our starting fives. I don't just yet. I got one more piece. I got a feel in the three spot. Three spot, okay. Yeah. So your team right now is what?

My full starting five is Cade, Clay, Jada McDaniels, Larry Markening, and plays your center. Clingin. Pretty filthy. I'm pretty happy with that. I'm on the clock. That's a playoff team. I have to make a drink, but like, but we're doing good. Okay.

What are you at right now? So I have Darius, Devin Booker, no three, but I have Jalen Johnson and Claxton. Okay. So I need a four. Weird team. Weird team. We need the right three to bring it all together. Wait, is there no like small fours left available?

What, you keep pressing the button to switch between, go to ratings and press square. Oh, okay, gotcha. This is terrible for our reputation. Yeah. Just press it once. Don't press it again. And I'm trying to see only small fords though right now. It's bullshit.

Yes, I can't. You have to scroll past every single point guard to get there. Okay, so Caruso, you're not getting drafted, buddy. I was considering Caruso. It's going to be a terrible fit. Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks definitely belongs to be on the board because he's a hellacious defender and can simply just shoot the ball, which is always a need from that.

This is just so like a super low priority position for me right now. And it's honestly, that in the two position is easily two of the most low priority positions in the league. so I'm not really too too worried but I want to know if I can get like a steal here some young player Bro Max Drews is right there Get out of my face bro

Max Drews is right there He can stay right there During Finney Smith Wouldn't know that Fess is there Okay as soon as I hit 76 Okay is that Ben Simmons You know what B Simmons? I see VJ Edgecombe

Should I do like a Seamy play here I don't know if I want to do that Yeah do that But it wouldn't be Go ahead It wouldn't be terrible though To go ahead and develop someone like him It wouldn't be terrible

you know what yeah I'm Jan Wells is there you're gonna have no starting small forward and Jan Wells is there I like him a lot I like Janet Wells too that's a good pick yeah but I think I'm gonna I'm gonna stabilize right now I thought you were gonna pay Jared

I was like oh Jared Vanderbilt nah damn I scared it's called dumb far yeah I think what I'm gonna end up doing it just play somewhat safe and just grab Alex Crusoe give me the 31 year old who's an elite defender

I already have enough gaps there. Your team is tiny. Tiny. You think I've seen Ours to do some things deep in. Yeah, he's just not. Your team's just little.

Like, I love. James Johnson don't play low. What the hell? Nick Claxson don't play little. Yes, he does. We're athletic. We're athletic.

For a five, he plays pretty little. You're going to feel the pain. I can't wait. As soon as I see your matchup on my calendar, belt a ass. What keeps a locker in your team? I can't, you're too slow. What do you mean?

I'm too slow. I'm Kayed, Jaden Daniel. What do you mean? He's a little. He's like, you're too slow. Your team is too slow. Okay. So now my five is fully complete,

and this is basically fresh start, and I get to go ahead and see how I want to build my bench. Yeah, you need your six-man, spark plug. Spark plug. The spark plug is right there. I will say that you don't have any small forward, so maybe you want, like, a guy to do certain lineups where you have a bigger defensive lineup?

Yeah, maybe, maybe. It's pretty soon there's going to be no good defenders left. Yeah, that is very true. But, I mean, you're always going to find a good, like, 74 or 75 for all who just like plays one way is and it's just a decent defender okay so we'll kill us and her walker so there

I think the best value right now is Jonas Valentine's Schultz oh Mitchell Robinson is a good bit Mitch Robinson okay right here my next I believe yeah probably you're next well I just talked about I need a shooting guard of the future you mentioned Vijay Edcombe

I'm gonna see who else is there for young players VJ's gone yeah oh he's gone yep he went he went to the warriors yeah as soon as yeah Okay, well, I'm going to, I need a shooting guard of the future. I feel good about my nucleus. Actually, I need to Clay Thompson replacement, so that's on top of mind. Ah, no.

Yacob went? Yeah. Okay, she was a player. Malik Monk is still, oh, Malik Monk's six, man, off the bench, Sparkplug score. Bro, it's not even, it's not even the team right before. It's not even him that sniping me. It's like three teams ahead of me. Yeah.

Malik Monk is currently leader in the clubhouse, because I have hell of defense, and I pick Clay to be a, like, fit-in starter. If I have lineups where I want to, to have another ball handler out there. Malik Muck is a perfect fit with K. Cunningham. So is Malik Beasley. Great influence. Yeah. And also, all he already has good chemistry, too. Yeah. Unless I see a young

player that I'm like, ooh, that's a future star. I'm going to go Malik Munk, I think. It's just a great team outings. Yeah. Yeah, we'll just go Malik Munk. I'm looking at a whole lot of players that you don't really like. Sticks. Sticks. Sticks is right there. We're going to Malik Munk as a six man,

potential closing guy over Clay Thompson. Now I got snipe to write down Did you want it? Yeah Willie Kug is a filthy pick at this point of the draft That's starter quality If Flake Thompson needs to rest night I feel so good about Malik Munk started next to Kade

All right so once again So we have Maxi Sugs Who's my third Maxi Sugs Dort Jesus Maxi Sugs doort We have Mowbly

And I forgot who I put out the fore But I know that my son P.J. Washington is your fourth And P.J. Washington Still need some some creation we're doing stuff off the bench I'm not scared to go with the unks like Al Horford and having

somebody who can back up Mowgli Yeah they That's definitely on my short list right now Somebody's win the finals this year Why not you? We're not playing for 10 years from now We're trying to win down Dante right now

Time Lord is still there That's kind of crazy Because TimeW doesn't play basketball In 2K he does Injuries are off Yeah Dante is looking very very nice honestly during finney smith it's a good value pick good team building value yeah if i if i want to

have him at the fore instead of having PJ it's a good floor but your ceiling is fucked no i mean no i mean i'm building out a bench no one's building your ceiling with pick seven you know all the stars are gone all the ball handlers are gone yeah you know y'all don't be building like i would be building oh thank god you know okay so right now it's either do i want to go dante dante devenchino or do i want to go with dorian phony smith don't they both are both of I have both good players. At some point, Kyle Kuzman becomes a decent pick for your bench. When he's not your second option to Yannis'

Prime, Kyle Kuzman's a decent player. Who are the, who are the centers left? Stephen Adams, that's an interesting pick. It's a good pick. Because I need a backup five. Yeah. Yeah, those don't exist. Exactly. And Andre Drummond.

Nirkich? Logan's a great pick. Roga. Just pick Al Horford. You want Al Horford. I do. He's 39. I do want Al Horford.

Are you baited him into him into Mints. Horford. No, he, I mean, he was on the shortlist. He'd been talking about Al Hofer. I don't got to pay him to Al Hofer. He loves him. If I can get somebody, yeah, if I can, if I can get somebody who can play 20 minutes and still be a solid defender, still shoot the three and do all that.

Chris Milton and C. McCollumple just went. I'm okay with that. Concanip was a good pick in the seventh round. Shot the Spurs. Ben Simmons. Oof. Ron Holland, okay.

G.G. Jackson, okay. Trey, Tray Johnson just went. Interesting. I'm noticing something. And now. Akele Alexander Walker's right there. Yeah. That's a great pick.

He's probably shortlist right now. He's probably the best player available right now. On to go Dante. You wanted Dante last time. Dante's still there. Yeah. And we do kind of kind of speed these picksups. That is true.

All right. I'm just looking at who has better perimeter defense. And Nicky Alexander Walker has it. So you are now on my team. Okay. So I picked last time, who did I pick for my bench? I forgot. You got Malik Monk.

Malik Monk, yeah, so six men. So I need a young player now. Let me filter by age. 40. God damn. PJ Tucker, there we go. Hey, that's my 14th pick. Oh, common Mali Wash.

Give me him. Youngest Center. Just nerfed it. Yep. Yep. There we go. And now it's your turn. That's nice.

Look at that. That's nice. Oh, I'm about the Maluash and clinging back. Ooh, filthy. It's a grown man league, buddy. He got Mitchell Robinson waiting for him in the back. He's going to be better than Mr. Robinson pretty quick. It's like, it'll take too long.

We'll see, buddy. I'm very high. In real life, I'm so high on his ceiling. He's large. Okay, so my pick is on the board, and right now I have Mitchell Robinson holding it down at the five. Hey, your boy, Karras Levert is right there. Yeah, right. Okay, so again, I knew exactly what you were on.

So now I got to go ahead and nerve this a little bit. Hey, what's his name, Yon? Joan Joan Barron Jay He's gonna be a fucking sleeper Carter Bryant nice Good that Carter Brine's a great pick Yeah Carter Brine is a great big Great steaming play as well

But I'm this is where it gets real nasty I'm going up I saw 69's Hell nah we needed that business man Okay so I think I might lean towards Okay Carter Brine's on the board Carter Bryant is definitely on the board Are you like 100% set on like Picking a rookie

Potentially potentially I have to figure out how I want to build my bench and like what are potential weak points that have on my starting lineup that could be like easily like easily supplemented so when I think about weaknesses in my starting lineup I think I have have firepower but I could use a little bit more scoring because Darius gone he's a great second option but I think he's more prone to have to having off nights so what that being said. Buddy healed. That's scoring. Buddy healed is scoring. Buddy healed is scoring, but I'm lying. I'm taking Doreen Phiney Smith, Jr. Okay, I was going to say, if you don't pick a big wing here, you're insane. You're talking about scoring. I was like, what?

There we go. We don't have looked at each other. I was like, that's what you need? I said, let him cook. He got it. Doreen Phith was the right thing. Doreen Smith should probably start for you. Okay. I was like, scoring. What is he cooking? Ah, man, that's the process.

That was the right thing. That was the right pick. I'm letting you know right now. I'm going to finish my team. Then we're going to go. I'm making one trade. I'm traded all of my drive picks. Get a star.

Then we're going to complete it. You're trading all here. It's illegal. Carter Bryant was right before you. Damn. You got snipe for Carter, Brian. Okay, it's okay. So I have a lot of defense on my team.

I got Caruso, Nick Claxon, Mitchell Robinson, Taylor & Johnson, too. I have a lot of defense. Do you worry for me, my God. You got a way to high guard. You got some guys. Is you got some guys? Okay, yeah, I do have a lot of guys.

PJ, talk. Let's get to... Nobody touching. I'm saying you right now, 14th round, he's on my time. Today, only. Pick Ben Serif. Okay, now I think this is where I might get into

Dante Divens. That's good thing. Yeah, yeah, smart. I might get into his conversations. Paring Dante and Dorian Finney Smith on your bench is a nice little problem. Brother, leave my guy alone. Yeah, I think I might have to go towards... It doesn't matter because it doesn't matter because it's a year before me.

I will take him next to you there. Go towards his way because this is very simple. when he's 20 years old. Yeah. Let me not take two. I won't even lie to you. I will take him if you don't. There we go.

Okay. Interesting. So my bench now. I have Malik Monk. I have Malouache. That's it, right? On the bench? Yeah.

He's right. So, yeah, I need another wing. Because I have Jay McDaniels, but he's kind of my only, like, wing. I don't feel good about Clay. And, like, Lavery's more of a four to me. I don't want him defending threes.

So I need another wing. I can go young, but I'm also down to go. I don't want to go old, though. I want to go, like, young-ish, but not necessarily rookie. So I'm going to quickly check up here. Vando, I'm good. I just dropped the motherwash. He's not a spacer yet.

Ooh. Sam Houser is interesting. Sam Houser moves me. He's a great 10th man, though. Yeah, I'm looking at my eighth for my eighth man right now. I kind of like Sam Houser as my eighth man. That's what I'm saying? He's a hooper.

I'm heavily considering Sam Houser. But before I do that, let's go by age again. and let's check out the guys that are middle-aged. I want young guys Bro, take Reed Shepherd. Ooh, Reecher's a good pick. Hey.

Damn. No, I pick Malik's one because I'm not going to pick Rechever but hey, back a point guard. Yeah. Do it. Reach up is not a bad. Dude, that's your guy.

B-plus perimeter defense. I do love Reed Shepherd. He could be a steal. He could be a steal. Hansen Yang. I should have picked him. Just taking all the fucking Blazer Bigs. I know.

Okay. You know, I'll pick Reed Shepard. Why not? I'll come back around and get another role player for it's my bench let's have Reed Shepard a monk be my backup guards

bring me some offense to go with my... Oh, I did. Where the fuck is Reed Shepard? Right there. Okay, I'm not selling my stock yet. Let's go Reed Shepard Amalawash as my stars

of the future. Here's Donovan's pick. Okay. All right, so my bench is consistent of Nikil Alexander Walker and Al Forford. Okay, I need some backup forwards now.

It's not terrible, but again, we still need... My team is balanced. You still need some. some people here. I need Samhouser. I need Samhouser. KCP is intriguing.

Derek Jones Jr. as well. Yeah. Yeah, KCP, Derek Jones, Jr. Don't hate either of those pigs right there. At some point, Jared Vanderbilt becomes draftable. Are we there yet? No. Do we just not one non-shooting forwards on our team?

Yeah, I'm good on that. Because we can avoid it. We don't need to do that. Yep. Presses to a Kyle Lari. Kyle Lari for to retire. I need, no, I can't.

Patrick Williams. I can't take Kyle Lari. Nicole, Yoavitch is a good pick. What position group are you looking for right now? Anything two through four. That's quite wide. I know.

But honestly, Matisse Tybal. Hey. I'll pick movies back for me. I'll go, I need another defender. I'll go time. Hey, I mean,

DeWay, it's interesting. DeWay, would it wouldn't be terrible? That's not. Terry Hey man Hey man Nah I think I might

Might come back up here And we might go get KCP Okay That's not bad Believe in a bounce back Your form You'll put it in a better Situation to succeed

In the magic good Exactly KCP Welcome to the squad And we're still staying on you next Exiting round eight Going around now We have our top eight players now

We have our nucleus Who's in a close playoff games Potentially I'm gonna round out my bench with I got two young players I feel good about I'm gonna round it out now with role players I feel like at this point now I need to because all I have some

older players I have Al Horford Yeah I have I have KCP I do need to go get some youth I need a rookie yeah I feel the opposite Because I have between Klingin Maliwash Reed Shepard Ah Jeremiah Fears got taken Dang damn

Back to the youths Singay John Perengue Warrangeet Will Riley No right he's a bucket he is Derek queen Is he the type of bucket

Salon T's on Salon Yeah pick him I might I might No but I don't Jace Richardson is a little interesting He just He's a great ceiling fight for him

He's like 6 3 about I don't know I do need I need I don't know I need a 4 I need a 3 and a 4 now And I'm not sure where I want to go Maybe I do go Derek Queen here Yeah, go Derek Queen.

And get somebody interesting. Derek Queen playing alongside, like, if I had Queen in Mobley or Queen and Orcord. That's kind of dope. It's not terrible. It's like a nice mix of ball handling and spacing from your bigs. And if that offense does develop, maybe? Yeah, that makes sense. I have to take a rookie.

So I do need, I do need Derek Queen. Pass it back. And I'm not going to trade an unprotected pick to go get. I like it's so much better. Good process. What I want to look at now, I want guys. that are about to enter like a year three or four leap. So I'm going to look at like 22, 23 year olds.

That makes sense. That I think over the course of season, 2K will project to rise up pretty fast in their... Bronny James is right there. Yeah. You discard him perfectly. I would love to pick Bernie James. Nicole Yovitch is a good prospect for that.

Crafty stretch four. I'm kind of leading Nicole Yovitch, actually. Jarris Walker. The 14th best power forward in the league. Don't let him slip to me, man. I'll let you have him. Just because I know how much you love him. Okay, Jalen Hood Shafino

Burn Again, 22, 23 year olds We're looking at a bunch of random players Now I don't know who these guys are Yeah, you're looking at Nemhard, that dude is a dog Okay, they show me like old rookies That are like undrafted

At least 23 Okay, so starting with Dayron Sharp Now we're into the range I'm talking about Boston. Boston? Brandon Boston Most of 23 year olds on here are like old rookies

They're in year too Yeah, this is what we're left with In the ninth round Yeah, because everybody who's about to make a year two or three leap they were taking already. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, you're right. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, we're in. Did I say Marcus Bagley? Is that

related to Marvin? We are, yeah, bro. We're looking at ninth round. Okay. Who was the person I said earlier that I said I was thinking about? Oh, Yovitch. Brian James Jr. I'll be Brian next round. Why not? Okay, do I go Jaris Walker or I'll go Yovitch. So my bench.

He's right there, too. Elite defender. I have two guards. Hmm. Yovitch or Jaris Walker. I go Jaris Walker Surprising The prophecy Yeah

He lives That's my youth now Now I'm gonna go straight role players Ready to win now I am Davey on Mitchell I guess I can go I can go either way Because like my team

My starters are very young Like Maxi Mowbly sucks They're all all solid Yeah Yeah now I need my DFS type guys now Because I mean Clay's already One of my DFS guys But that's the only one I got

My bench is all youth Besides Malik Monk Not yeah Buselli. Damn. Gershaw. Shout to Mike Conley, Jared Vanderbilt.

You guys are staying here to the end. Mike Conley is interesting. Okay. You got a backup point guard? No, I don't. I do not have a backup point guard. That is kind of a need.

Heavily they need. I need more creation coming off the bench. Absolutely at this point. Because I got... Mike Conley's interesting for you. I got DFS. Mike Colley filling in when Darius Garland's on the bench. Kind of like can still do that

like live dribble creation a little bit. Yeah. go to hell. That has not happening. Listen, you have one year. You have one year and then you take just another point guard. It's fine. Yeah.

And I think I have my guy right here. Stephen Adams? Yeah, not Stephen Adams. Not even close. Trey Man. Okay, this is a good year two, three player. A lot of offensive juice. Defense, yeah, not really giving me too much.

Yeah, yeah. But I think I definitely do like the pitch. Okay, there you go. Trey, man, welcome to my team. Good job. Good job. like that. I like the juice.

Topich. I forgot Topich was out here. Yep, that was definitely a step. Do you want to draft like 10 rounds to simulate the last four? Yes. Excuse me.

We'll see the top 10. Yes. Okay. So, yeah, one more pick you have left. This is your last pick to do your 10th man. Yeah.

Okay. Last pick, 100% needs to be just sealing, bro. Darts will be thrown. I need to get a role player that can play now. James Wiseman,

Jonathan Magbo. Hey, Vanderbilt gets drafted. Let's go. In the 10th round. Shout out to the Detroit. Oh, Noah, Senge, damn. That's a dart throw.

Yeah. That's ceiling. Okay. Listen. So. He's still here. Who? Your boy, Samhouser.

Oh, I'll pick him. Samhouser is a great pick. Yeah. I'm picking Samhouser. I like Samhouser. Dean Wade is still interesting at this point. The minivan is here still. Okay, Gabe Vincent, Jalen Wilson.

Oh, your boy, Lou. I'll say, Osias Stewart is here. He's the fucking amazing pick. Great value, but I can't. pick him because I already got my bigs. I say Stewart is a good pick. Yeah, he's a fantastic pick. I went all in on my young center, so I'm not going to get a third, but that's a good

pick. I have to get a wing. Yeah, I have to get a wing to fill this out. So do I win badly. Okay, I like Josh Green. He can be, he's a potential option here. Look at Jonathan Isaac. Just still hanging on, 73 overall.

Damn. Could be a decent pick. There's a low key. Deploying him in an interesting way? Low key. Low key. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Low key.

Low key, Jonathan Isaac's a good pick. He's a demon, bro. Terran Shannon Jr., that's my pick right there. There you go. There you go. He's going to hit this year. There you go. That's my pick.

Okay, I need a veteran 3-and-D wing because my only wing right now is Jay McDaniels and Clay Thompson. I want another small forward-sized defender. I have no creation off my bench. Samhous is a good pick. I'm going to see if there's a better defender, but if not, I'll go Samhouser.

Okay. Oh, Coro, that would have been a good pick for me. Colmarie Boyles. Deambatton. My bitch is so young. I need someone that can close Kevin Hurd him right before me

fuck damn I didn't know he was not here oh I can I can order by perimeter defense who are the best defenders left Tybal I should probably go Tybal Matisse

Oh Derek Jones Jr. That's who I'm going Oh wow There we go I don't even go Look at the rest Yeah And Donovan here's your last pick

before you simulate Oh no I'm nervous Yeah Who you're gonna close with Shout out Derek Jr What a steal So if I had

So on my bench, if I have, if I have Nickyne Alexander Walker, KCP, insert three here, Derek Queen, Al Horford. I need, I need somebody, like, I don't know. Sam Houser. It might be, it might be Sam Houser. He is a great big. Can get you in a cool 15 minutes a game. Yeah, Sam Houser, because he's still, he's not crazy old either. I can go.

Cameron Payne. You need someone who gets her bench a lot Right you want Dean Wade I kind of do If I had an 11th round pick I would go I would go with Dean Wade Is a weird Dean Wade

We're gonna go with Sam Houser here Okay Samhouser is We are gonna close this out Okay now let me sit I'm gonna simulate to the end Go ahead Is that square

Okay so our last four picks Ermi completely simulated Ace of the well No simulate the rest of the draft Flying through it This is how they should have been Simulating to get to our picks

I know it's a wait too long We could do that We could have done that, but we were just, like, trying to look at it. Yeah. So, view rosters. So the Hawks, your last picks, and I swear about the picks. I don't think I can. No.

So you got Booker, Garland, Jalen Johnson, Alex Caruso, Nick Claxton. You guys know all the Zardty players. Oh, you got Grayson Allen. Oh, that's a great pick. They are dressed man, too. Okay. You pick Trade Man, my bad. Eric Gordon.

Okay. Grant Williams. All right, great luck, everybody. Team chemistry going down. Little Riley. Okay, I love it. So that's who you got. I'm really happy with my team.

Really happy. Where is the Lakers and Nix? Do, do, do, do, do. Scrolling through, trying to find them. Lakers should be up first. Oh, yeah, it's an alphabet of order. Okay. Yeah.

So I got Kate Cunningham, Lowry Marketing, Jada McDaniels, Alec, Monk, Tonson. Oh, I got Royce O'Neal. That's a good thing. I got Conloiree. Fuck. Alec Berks, okay, I guess. Call him Aliwash. DeAndre Jordan.

That's a great mentor. That's a great mentor from Wallywash. And then Jarrett Walker, Reed Shepard. Then Donovan, you got Mowgli, Maxi, solid two starters. I got the weakest number two option. Jalen Suggs, Lou Dort, PJ Washington, Al Horford, the Killarston Walker, KCP, Sam Houser, Nicholas Baton. Ah, he can close.

Okay. Okay. Derek Queen. Marvin Bagley. Ew. Not such a great auto-dress. Jared Butler. Okay.

All right. That's a, that's a Natty winner, man. Yo, what? Shout out to Jordan. I'm not a fan of this. this. I'm not a fan of it. Go back. Go back. Go back. We love it. I got to get my 13th and 14th picking. I love for everyone, bro. I'm not rocking with this. So that is our draft. Now let's continue. Please. Let's Sim the first season.

Whoa, do you want to adjust our like our rotations or anything like that? No. No. You don't know just no rotation. There's too much. Yeah, that was. Y'all not in a weas like me, man. Fuck. Do that on your own time. Yeah, man. So I don't generate rookies. Go for it. Okay. Now, okay, confirmation. LeBron James plans to retire and be eligible for farewell to her, but if you say yes. Are injuries off, too? I don't know.

They're probably yon. That's insane. None of us have LeBron, and they said, do you want LeBron to retire? Okay, so now let's simulate through the end of the regular season. If it was me, I would have said, no, he's in still. Adjust rotation. Just always have. Always have CPU adjust rotation for injuries.

Oh, my God. So injuries are fucking our entire thing, bro. The Yier Knicks injury issues emerged. Evan Mobley, sprained left toe one to two weeks. I don't care. Just have the CPU adjusted. Yeah, always a CPU.

So, yeah, we don't know what's going on in the moment. Who's getting hurt? That's so crazy glazing. What? Of like, are you okay if LeBron retires? Like, do you want to keep them in the game?

Valid question. Trade offer. Always disabled CPU offers are always trash. You got offered, Ken Whitmore, and Jalen Hoodsafino. Get the fuck out of his face.

Okay, disabled CPUs. No. I think it's kind of funny. If we had more time, I think we should keep that on and just see what happens. When we stream, oh,

what is this prospect scouting yeah just sim uh where's sim uh i think it's square triangle always have CPU yeah there go i can't see the screen so far away it's like bro i'm just trying to hoot like that i don't care by any of this okay oh that's NBA cup MVP damon lear got it anyways shout out to oakland shout out the NBA cup but here we are oh so right now we're looking at it through donovan donovan's currently second oh he dropped the seventh in the conference let's see can we check up on our teams and see how we're doing through the first a month too much of the season. Sure, let's let's let's go through Christmas

and through Jed, December. So, December is now over. Okay. So checking in on our teams. I'm second in the conference. In the east, Donovan is seconded the conference of 26 and 9.

Most 24 and 13, the four seed. Yeah, we're so low, bro. That sounds okay for now. I've had, I've had injuries. I wonder what, like, I lost embovobloven for two weeks. Step up. I wonder how much it's in fact.

It's got to the Lakers. Damn! Ow, my ear. That was so loud God, you're so fucking wild 14 and 18 damn I think someone got hurt Who got hurt in the beginning

Ass is fuck Who got hurt Yeah you're looking In the fourth of the lottery I saw Moby you got hurt And somebody heard You got hurt Darius Garland

Darrys Garley got hurt Oh Kaye got hurt And I lost And I lost Derek Jones Jr. Got hurt Oh Kaye got hurt Yeah Kate got hurt

You want to see Liar Big Booty out there Bro He got hurt man How didn't you want to see him Cade is out Makes sense okay But how long?

And Malik Munkis, all your scoring juice is cut. I know, my team's injured as fuck. We should have turned off injuries, man. Yeah, that's more fun this way. Hell no,

it's not, man. It doesn't matter. God, that was so loud about your hurts. Oh, man. Fucking K. No, we're 18,

hit like a truck. Fucking Kame, man. Yeah, no, you should have turned off injuries, but you can't see how good your actual team is

because it's random bullshit. Well, I'll turn off injuries, we'll do another sim for you. too. Yeah. I wish I'd seem faster. I wish we could just automatically go. No facts. Damn, you're 13th? Oh, no.

My team is cooked. Everyone's injured. It's pointless now because of the kids. Oh, no, no, he's rising. Oh, man. No, never mind. Oh, 14. Okay.

This came back now. I'm in the play. Okay. This came back now. I'm rising up. Okay. Katie has to be back. Okay. This is easily the most phone. Please fall out. Oh, no. He's going to be in. I'm not going to be in. Come back with Kay getting really healthy. Oh, my gosh. I'm in the playing game.

That's crazy. Can I get out of the play in with my team? And make a run? What a storyline? My team gets injured and Kaye comes back and saves us at the end. Kate, save us. I'm holding steady in 9th. 9th.

All right, never mind. MVP. MVP. Let's see if we have any awards. Cooper Flagg wins. Ricky the year. Perigible. T.

C.J. McCollum, 6, man. Okay. Defensive player of the year, Vic. Jay Huff, Most Improved player Bullshit. Okay. 41% from the field. Anthony Edwards,

Clutch player of the year. Average 30. Jordie Fernandez, coach of the year. David Powell. What are they even going off of there? NBA Cup MVP lowered. I guess that they were probably like the first in the year. All NBA teams.

Do we have anybody in all NBA teams? Nope. Damn, I should have stuck to Trey. We do not. Second team. Nobody on our teams. Our teams are just regular. Oh, here we go.

Oh, Tyree's Maxie. made third team all in the A okay I told you he gonna be a star Is that Josh Giddy? No was it I thought I saw Josh Giddy Oh I didn't see I'm in the playing game

Let's simulate this Let me show me to play this bitch I'll make sure I'll do You know what I used to do when I was like 14 I want the playing game I'm now in the second playing game Can I make my way into the playoffs Wait where did we finish off seating

Oh we'll check We're in the actual playoffs I've been doing I've been in a little bit of Trash empty. What happened in this game? Who is healthy? We didn't even check that.

Who ended up playing in this game? Oh my gosh. Clayton. Fucking garbage. Hey, Cain was healthy. Zero athletic. Bro.

Nah, no motion. Wait, is Clingin injured? All y'all are garbage. Clingin didn't play in this fucking game. Klingin got hurt too. Trash ass team.

Got hurt. Zero health, right. Everybody got injured. Fuck. Uh, yeah, going to the east.

Oh, my God. I'm the two ones. Damn. Okay. And you're the five. Okay, so let's go through. We better not. Simulate playoffs.

Let's see. Oh, I sweat. Oh, I made it come back. Damn, yeah, I go. Okay. It was game seven. It was game seven, though. Oh, no.

What an upset. Wait, wait, who did we lose to? Who do we lose to? I, we lost it up Pacers. I can't escape these, dude. So storyline. The Pacers were led by women. Yama and they made the finals.

Oh my God. It's Katie's Timberwolves or his Wemianama's Pacers. Damn I got whooped, man. Let's simulate the playoffs. Oh, man. The Pacers again. Kevin Durant's Timberwool's won. You can't make this up.

Kevin Durant wins finals MVP. Damn. Okay. All right, she guys do one more with no injuries. Yeah, one more or no injuries. I hate the dude so much. All right. So my team failed miserably with the injuries.

Let's see what they do if we turn it off. So to turn it off, I think you got to go back to like the main. You know, you don't understand. All summer I've had to do with them. Like last month, whenever Summer League was going on, I turned on a random game. And like, because the Knicks were playing and they were in a close Summer League game. You got to scroll to the next page. Oh, it's not set up.

Yeah. And then guess what? They lost to the Pacers in Summer League in a closed game. We did it? This is storybook. Okay, injuries are off. There we go. Now start off season.

Hopefully, like, our teams aren't too impacted through the off season. Oh, if we just lose players? Yeah, if we lose players and that's fucking nerfed. We didn't do this right. Yeah, we probably shouldn't know injuries the first year, so we had a real indication. Yeah. Advance the next season. But it's okay.

I don't think any of our players, like, I know I resigned Alex Caruso during Freezman is maintained. I don't think. Just like random vets I don't generate rookies This is awful Okay so now we got no injuries on But I did have the best team so

Confirmation Kevin Nurt wants to retire I don't care Overview a team let's see Can we see our rosters next time I'm just gonna say no And be like now you're gonna keep playing Yeah you can only say it once though All right

So I still got Cade Malik Monk Oh wait is this clay gone And you got clinging coming off the No. Lorry Martin's a six man. Like, what the fuck are we talking about? Yeah. All right, cool. Okay, nothing changed that much.

I lost Kyle Lauer. He must have retired. Do you want to start Lari marketing? Because that generally fucks up like your team construction. Why did they put Limeon on the bench? That's why we had to go ahead and like go from the start and revise this. Yeah.

Why did they do that? That's why you were 14 and 18, but I told you. A stupid ass coach. Yeah. Like you got to revise your lineups a little bit, I think. So optimized for stupid ass coach. I forgot. There's a coach.

Okay. Then we got the Nix. Let me see. I'm still looking at the Lager. Oh, because I got to back out and go towards you. I forgot you got to switch between the teams. Yeah,

that makes sense. Okay, coaching game plan. All teams. That's for the Hawks. So Booker Garland, you're still good. They put Booker at point. It's whatever.

It doesn't matter. As long as he's running. It's just funny because you have an actual point guard. Yeah. Your team stayed the same except you have Grant Perry. Okay. My line of fuel. My rotation feels good.

You're getting fucked. You're getting fucked. Well, I switch it back. So we're good now. See my team. Jaris Walker. He was only 70 to raw. It's not like he developed to surpass him.

Oh, they started. They started in Nicky Alexander Walker. That's good. Sam Houser starting. So you're going to put Suggs starting. Who is this? Who is this Bassie? Wait,

who did you lose as you said? Oh, okay. I told you, we've been getting cooked like, yeah. Who do you want to start a power forward? Derek Queen.

Mo Gay. Who was your start? Oh, you lost BJ Washington in free agency. Yeah, he didn't re-signed a contract. So, wait, scored out. Oh, my God. This is funny.

I think I got a bodji. Yeah, you do have Hukbaji. All right, cool. Yeah, you got, you got O'Chagbaji. I guess, yeah, let's put Derek Queen as a starting powerful. Okay. Oh, yeah, I'm coming for fucking blood. You want to put Alexander and small forward?

Over Houser? Yeah, you said, sure. Okay, or you can keep Houser, go up. It's a bit about okay. Okay, so now let's do the whole season. Injuries off, this is somewhat fair. Yep, now we're seeing the real outcome. So let's view it.

Let's view it through my teams. update up there. Let's see if my team somehow has a better season. Jesus Christ, season from hell, man. I made the playoffs, though. I read the play in. You did. That was a great comeback. Miraculous comeback without my star player. Damn. Okay. So, I'm starting off seventh, ninth. I don't really mean too much.

Yeah, it's too early. It's really in the season. You know? Fifth, seven. Yeah, this is the Western Conference. Yeah. I think you're around like 500. Yeah. You're roughly 500. Yeah. You're five. Yeah. I'm bouncing like fourth between like six, seven. 11 and 10. Oh, you don't do you love me. We don't care about this.

Eighth, ninth, seven. You're like 13th in the power ranking, though. Okay, 12th and power. Yeah, my team just, I didn't put belt to as, but I beat you. Let's stop it now. No, you lost. No, I, oh, fuck, you're right. Hawks are 13th in power ranking.

You're seventh in the east. What the fuck? Oh, wait, no. Nick's your first in the power ranking. You're killing it. This is some bullshit, man. You're killing it. Wow.

Okay. Okay, I'm 11th. You're 12th. So me and Mo are middle of the pack contenders. This is bullshit. Donovan's killing it. a ha ha ha simulate through date

yeah I'm gonna look at the power rankings steady around 11th or 12th yeah this is all right yeah you're just swimming you're surviving though like I'm in the conference with whimby and like he's just a god on 2K yeah we should look the rest of the team

to know what the landscape is like I'm seventh in power rankings now don't care about teams getting it 9th damn it you're just trying to you had a bad week yeah one bad week I wish this could go faster this is so annoying

yeah Trade deadline, no, don't care. Stop asking me questions, 2K. I don't want a realistic experience. This is middle of the season now. Do we want to see where we... No. Okay.

No, let's just keep going. That's six. Speaking up. Okay. I'm not answering no. Contract no. Okay, let's check one more time. So I'm currently six in the power rankings.

Mo is 10th. Okay. And Donovan's team is killing it. The Knicks are unstoppable. Okay. Mo Black the five has done wonders for you, man. I've done my job. I've restored the New York

next to their forward glory but will you keep it up in the playoffs I don't know wait but switch off and is it's too stressful

to watch this Donovan still 10 I'm still 6 I mean most still 10 40 and 26 okay I'm 40 and 26 yeah where you see

oh bottom left 42 and 28 okay I have a solid hey listen you're gonna give 50 wins okay come back

it's hard because all these teams are even because it was a fantasy draft the fact that you You lost P.J. Washington in free agency, and you're still number one. Nerve-ed him, yeah. OJ.

You got to 50 wits? Of course. Another one would be MVP, motherfucker. Is he going to be MVP and D.B.O.I. Herbert Grant, rookie of the year. Who? Jaden Ivy, six men of the year. Interesting.

Okay. Victor Wimmyndi, naturally. Robert Dillingham. Wow. I forgot. Most approved player. Good for Rob. Devin Booker.

Clutch player in the year. There we go. Walk away with some metal. Mike Brown. Coach of the year because you're the one seed. Ah. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. first team oh k cunningham made first team see look what happens me he's not injured i got so hard look at k when he's not hurt there we go that's nice though only one with first team players you must have a second team player maxie tyris maxi second year yo moby is not stepping up the way i need he's not developing 13 oh yeah 13 mowley no all-embaid players from moble they gave him 13 because they're like yeah the team is good so i am the three seed donovan is the one

seed thank god i think i'm the five seed you are the five seed so we're gonna be We're only to the side of the bracket. I hope that I go ahead and meet you there. Okay, so let's simulate the playoffs. I just lost. Oh, the Hawks lost in the first round? I got lost in the first round. Fuck, man.

Please. We lost for the Bulls! Yeah. With a one C! Cooper flag, Western Finals MVP. Nick's doing Nick's things. You should have been Cooper Flagg second round. I think.

Come on, wait, wait. Can you go to our series? Yep. So Donovan lost in the second round to the Bulls. What are we doing? The number one seat lost. Box score for the last game. Tyler here.

Oh, that story, man. Giving you fits. Cool, ma. Tala Hero, they don't play any defense. Keegan Murray. Donovan Mitchell and Tyler Hero game, do you? Ooh, man, I love it. Maxie.

Evan Mobley only 18 points. Damn. He wasn't assertive. The whole rest of team got locked up. All your role players weren't on shit. Damn, Samhouser, all that for what, bro? I got bounced by, oh, okay, it was the six seed, so they're all close. So I got bounced by OK.

okay c who was on this team who who with my ass because they they they did he was doing his thing Palin Carol Cooper Flagg okay no wonder yeah too that's disgusting it doesn't matter what else is around you know why too because it wasn't

year one so Cooper Flagg's not a rookie so he had another year of development so yeah this team is set up to be dominant you too is that Jalen Hudshafira giving you 22 points what the fuck is that Anthony black giving you 19 you yo I'm a heart can't fit

Double-picking? What the fuck? Oh shit. K job 44 and 13. Yeah, Kade was a goon. Cade went out like a G. Yeah, he needed more help. Jamie Daniels did well.

Lively Markner must have aged out and fallen off. Actually, he was seven for 10th. Look at Reed Shepherd developing. That's the pick that I'm most part of. Hey, man. Sixth retell is a game. Clay's still here? Clinging and Mollow.

He probably retired. He did shit. No, Clay's still there. Hey, man, Cade went out swinging. Good for Cade. That's all I care about. my team go out, man. Yeah, you got your ass woke.

I got 4-1 just like you. Where are you at? I'm my blind. Yeah, I'm right. Brother, go back home. We're fighting for them. He lost in the first round. Yeah.

Oh, oh, I'm looking at the second round. No, I was just like you. I was just like you. The Bulls be both of you guys. Yep. So, yeah, you guys got gained by Donovan Mitchell and Tyler Giro. Okay.

What do my team do, though? You had. Damn, dude. Dude, what the fuck? Did he score? Gary's Garth. Darius, I'm never picking you again, man. Yo, Jalen Johnson, 10 points?

Listen, 2K has a bias. They didn't fuck with it. His tendency is so low. Do you know, Nick Laxton didn't do anything. Whoa, zero points from Nick Laxton. In 29 minutes. Oh, he pulled the Tony Snow. David Chenzzo only played 19 minutes for 22.

He was on a here. He was who. Well, who locked up Nick Laxon. Who was the other center that clamped Nick Laxton? Walker Kessler. Figures. Got in his ass. The one C.

Quoted. Got in his ass. So the Bulls are in the finals. It's a thunder. Wow, man. The Thunder won me with Cade and with Palo and Cooper Flagg. They better win the series. Please.

And they win. Cooper flag and Palo. It makes sense. I wonder who might see you how far they would have gone if they didn't play the super team. Oh my God. Palos. 51 from the field. 39% from three.

And the Cooper flag, second option? 32 and 9? 32 and 5 will one and a half block. He's disgusting. Who would have thought? In every universe, the Thunder make a super team with the best players in the world because they're like that. We made a mistake. thought. Palo Ban Carroll finally

realizing his potential. Yeah. We didn't draft Sam Presti, and that's very messed up. So Donovan had the best team here. And you got Nerf too. You got nerfed as well. No, that's actually ridiculous. The four seat, Tyler Hero. I just got to live with the unknown that. Who knows what could have happened year one? When Clay was

still Clay and my team got hurt. Who knows what I could have done? And Kyle Larry, too. You lost Kyle Larry. I lost year one to injuries. Ridiculous. Kyle. I'm the 2021 Brooklyn Nets. Damn. I lost my season of injury. Yeah, I. And then I got clamped next series in the first round next year. Jeez, man. I went out the same way you went out.

You were the five seed both years. Consistent like the Hawks. He's the Hawks. He's the Hawks. In every universe, the Hawks of Mid. Hey, man. Hey, man, K. Cutting, Handtrop 44 and 13 is all I care about. Do or die, go home. He rose to the occasion. Darius gone has not escaped the narrative in my head, sadly. Damn it. And that's the end of our redraft of the entire NBA.

as always the thunder go on top and with that being said it's time for us transition to the second half of this show we are here TikTok throw some crayons let's rejoice it's time for TikTok time

woo welcome to TikTok time you know this episode was a special like 2K edition of the show something we don't usually do during the draft inside of 2K26 we're going to stay on that topic

because as you guys know 2K26 just came out and with that means new new 2K ratings for us to react to. So as a first part of our 2K ratings series over this summer, I'm going to have you guys guess the NBA team you're looking at by their ratings. I love these. These are incredibly fun.

And we get some inside to see how 2K view these scenes. Exactly. So I'm kind of previewing some of the ratings a little bit that we'll get into. As a week's come on, we'll do some player comparisons and whatnot. But today you're guessing the team. First off, which team is this? So 76, 77. Mid.

Atlanta Hawks. Nobody good. One question mark of the power forward. The only thing you don't see. Nobody good. Utah Jazz. Now the power forward might be really good. That could be the thing.

That could be. 83 overall center. So they have a good, not great center. Is this the Dallas Mavericks? This is not the Dallas Mavericks. Could have been them because they have everyone injured right now and you could have pulled them. But it's not. Let's see.

Power forward at the 83 spot. Okay. But obviously like if if the center is the best or the center is out of here. I'm assuming he's taking it out because the center is actually good. What if it's in Miami heat? No, it can't be them. No, I can't be them. I will say, I do like question mark. It's not always because they're good. That's not a through line every time.

Gotcha. I'm just doing like less than five to make it hard. This team is ass. Teams is good. Not good. If 83 overall is your best player, your team's not good. You got no help. Brooklyn Nets? Nope. This is the Milwaukee Bucks. Ah. This is Yonazza has been a cool. This is what we're talking about. This is what y'allas got to work with this year?

Oh, 83's miles turn. I was like, what the fuck is it? Yeah. And then a bunch of bunch of below average starters damn average starters are like 80 overall cool I think his name is Ryan Rawlins

or something like that oh no is he did he leave the team I remember but I forgot who I put the shooting card wow okay not a great supporting cast for one of the leaks

yeah that loyalty's gonna be tested yeah exactly so how low are you really how much do you really like cheesecurds next up which team is this 81 point guard star 3 star small 4

90 oh two terrible starters 76 and 74 kind of two stinkers definitely a top heavy ishty but 87 90 those are premier players yeah but their one their one through three is obviously the stars of their teams but also if your best player is 90 overall not great okay it's not amazing but so 90 overall but like the best backwards is not bad at all not backwards but like wing duos yeah wing duo I will say the shooting guard isn't a wing he's more of a guard

so I don't want to lead you astray there got you six five six I'm like that Okay Hmm Small forward 6, 7 So who are one of like the big Or one of the better duels New League There's Taven Brown

But obviously they're hurt Um After that there's Yeah Wing duels Can't be There's not a lot There's not a lot

Absolutely not But it's not really a wing Like don't think about that way The shooting guard is not a wing The shooting guard is not a wing Wing do those days The shooting guard is the 87 right Yeah

Wing duos these days Are usually a three and a four Not a two and a three yeah so okay so who are the 90 overall I don't know like this can't be right now because that's the only that I can hang on somehow like it's like Franz Impala just imagine no it can't be Franz Apollo

no because it's Desmond now Impala's a power ward yeah it can be Franz Apollo at all we can get closer to this for sure okay so I'll say this the 87 of Rawls shooting guard this is not going to be a player you think of this caliber this is a surprisingly high rating so it's a boost they be boosting

it's for sure this be the this is the Celtics for this year? This is the Celtics without Jason Tatum. Yeah. That's Derek White at 87. I was prepared to show you Jalen Brown in a bunch of low ratings, but then I thought, what the fuck? Derek Brown is in here?

Derek White's 87? Yeah. That's kind of stinky, but okay. Yeah, 76, 74. Yuck. I imagine those two players will not be starting for them coming playoff time. Welcome to the seventh seed. Which team is this?

They're going to miss the playoffs. Jeez, 87, 89, and 84. This is a great team. Three very good players. This is fantastic. Power forward, center, point guard. pillars a great one three five one four five one four five okay so 89 power forward 84 center to be this probably could be the cleveland cavaliers it could be and it is the cleaving cavaliers yeah okay

this smells like them yeah yeah this the easy one of the day what do they smell like they smell like a one C they smell like an up-and-coming disappointment potentially that's fair tough I think they'll be in the finals I don't know about disappointment they should be All right, all right. Next up, which team is this? We've got the full starting five. This is, damn. 98.

98 overall. Premier player in the league. This is the Oklahoma City Thunder. Yes, the Oklahoma City. That's best player in the game. Defending champs, three stars. Is she the best player in the game? No, Yokic is, I think.

Are they both? Maybe tied. They're both in the time. Yeah, they're both 98. No 99s in this game. 88 for 10. Okay. Wow.

Salute 90 for J-Dub. He deserves it. That's respect. 40. 40 in the finals. He deserves it. Salute. Shut of Lou Door getting to 81.

How far he's come since the bubble? I remember those days. Beautiful story, man. They were ignoring him. Development? God, man. And I say Hardin's nine. This team is team development.

Was Lou Dort the guy who got his shot blocked by James Hardin in the bubble? Yes. Embarrassing. How far he's come? Now he has jewelry. Yeah. Had it had it blocked, tried to throw it off a Hardin, Hardin, avoided it. Split his leg.

Damn, man. Look how far he's come. Which team is this? 94. Star Power Forward. 85 shooting guard with the star power forward 70 i see 79 i see 79 center on wrist like it's Orlando magic there's got to be there's no way palo's a 94 yeah it's a bit rich for worry that right now maybe they glaze but now 94 is a lot when i think of 94 at this

point i'm thinking about like kd i'm thinking about who else would be up there i mean this wouldn't but st goul is not a 79 overall i know okay so it can't be them yeah definitely not them Star shooting guard. I don't know if I say Star, but 85. Like Derek White was 87, so I'm right below that. Could this be, okay, if Derek White's at 87, could they put Clay Thompson? And could this be the Dallas Mavericks? Clay Thompson's not a goddamn 85 in 2025.

Okay. We just saw he was 79. You're right. We just played it. The best power forwards in the league are, like, we already went through Janus. We already, we know it's not KD. We know KD is out. It's not Anthony Davis.

Is this, is that LeBron James? This is the Lakers? This is the Lakers. with Austin Reeves and DeAndre Hayden. There we go. Okay. DeAndre Atene, 79, that seems right around that passable starter line. Yeah, 85 for Austin Reeves.

That's like a perfect rating for him. Desperate. They got that right. It's a little high, but everybody's a little high, so it makes sense, compared to Derek White, 87. And then Luke is obviously 95. LeBron is holding on to that 94. Yep. He's one overall below Luca, real close.

Next up, which team is this? 94 overall center, 85 point guard. Star Center. Now, this is not Yolkich. 85, 94. There's only a certain amount of guys were like that. This is a, this are here.

I know he for, she for sure earlier said that prior wasn't a duo, this has to be a duo. 95 and 85. This could be hanging on to it again, the Philadelphia 76ers. Okay, not bad. You thought 85 was Tyrese Maxi?

Nope, this is not the Philadelphia 76s. No, this is the San Antonio Spurs. Correct. That's De Aaron Fox and Victor Women, Yama. Boom. You got that one. Nice. sense.

Yeah, honestly, 94 center, that could only be like one or two guys. Exactly. Only if you guys are either 99 overalls or pretty far below that. Big gap. Next up, which team is this? We've got the full starting five again. Let's see. Power forward is the star of the team.

89? So, okay, so nobody is amazing, amazing on this team, but are still really, really good players. You got two 70s starters. 89's overall is your best player? This is a decent team. This is a decent team. Definition of decent team.

Yeah, exactly. He was hovering around like 500 probably. See, I would love to say, I mean, could. Ah, no, never mind. Is Pascal Seacama 89? Is this the Pacer? Hell no. This is the Pacers without Tyrese Halliburton.

Wow. I said hell no, because of Tyrese, but I, okay, makes sense. This is what they're going to be rocking with without Halliburton there this year. Makes sense. Very decent team, but this is going to be a five seat somehow. Somehow. I was back and forth through it because you said, yeah, you're not going far. And the Pacers just made the finals.

You're like very decent. I'm like, yes, them. Yep, yep. Which team is this? I got a 90 and an 86. Damn, we have a lot of highly rated power. Okay, is this the magic? Correct.

This is the magic. There we go. Makes sense. Franz and Palo. You were on the right track earlier. What's Desmond Baynet? I didn't check it. He may be like 83 or something.

Yeah, probably 84. Oh yeah, we just saw. Yeah, we just drafted. Yeah. We just drafted teams, don't know. Yep. Okay, but that's an easy one. Which team is this?

The 3, 4,5. Oh, they're great. 3, 45, 87, 93, 87? That's an elite team right there. Elite up front, which you don't see very often. Three stars in this range This is crazy Yeah

Just a rare team construction these days Three power forward And an 87 small forward 87 center This team is loaded man Expectations gotta be on this team Right here Mm-hmm

You better be a true contender You have to be Oh my goodness The best power forwards In the league Once again How many times I'm gonna have this combo

I know The AD Janus Wow this This should be easy But which one plays with an 87 small forward like a 3-4 combo also with a great center yeah i know this i feel like the ratings probably are slowly off so i'm not going to like fall in love too heavy with like

this isn't slightly off 87 87 are you saying it's right up uh it's yeah it's pretty accurate okay 93 4 i would say i view this is pretty accurate okay even then still blanking no we can't blank we can't blank it's simple this is pretty simple we can't we can't Maybe the 87 small Ford might come as a surprise to you that he's this high. Yeah. But when you'll think about it, you'd be like, okay, fair enough. Yeah, it might be boosted. But if you were ranking off the top of your head, maybe you'd say like 84.

Hmm. Okay. But still having one of the best big men duos in the league. Yeah, that stands out a lot. It's still very rare. And I just, I will say, this four or five are one of the better duos in the league. But it's not like a big man duo. You're not going to, if you think a big man duos, you're not going to,

jump to them okay so somebody's kind of playing up here okay shit yeah I might be cooked I'd say in some ways they both are and so is this the rockets this are the rockets this are the rockets I was right about to tell you you came in at the buzzer beater I meant Thompson is 87 that's a lot man that's that's a lot it's high and then you're like well he's amazing at defense he's amazing off ball he can rebound do all these things okay I can if we get here by the end of the year I'm cool I feel like to start the game to start the year having him at 87 where where Sangoon is also an

87 is like that's a bit high but i mean keep my again derrick white's 87 you don't think it's possible to say a man thompson is just as good as derrick white that's not crazy i get everything's just high yeah yeah if anything maybe singoon's too low in your regard but he didn't have the best efficient scoring season i think he will by the time the season we get to halfway through he'll probably pick an idea if katie alleviates some of the pressure and he scores really well again this year you know listen i see what you're saying now you better be a contender yeah you better be a fucking yeah exactly next up 94 point guard 81 power forward 94 point guard

Okay Steph Curry This is the Warriors This is the Warriors This is Steph and Draymond And everything else around them This is the Warriors I'm surprised you got that was so fast

He didn't pull that immediately I thought it was being kind of hard You saw 81 power forward 94 That is the duo That is my mind right That's my life can go It is your eyes can go

Okay All five players Who is this Nobody above 85 But everybody's solid Damn Well rounded But nobody that's really

Leaving their mark Is like This is our franchise player 81, 82 84 85 80 Okay You have your best players in 85

With how inflated 2K ratings are now You're down bad Yeah How Is this Is this gamers No it's just not the caliber

Is it 85? God, no This is terrible This I don't know What he was at now No No no Because to not have a player

That's a star level 85 is not a star level In 2K right now But you also don't have any 70s So your team is like Full of good players But no great players Ah sheesh

See That makes me want to go I know it's not them but like you saying that it makes me think of like the Memphis Grizzlies but like no no I can't hail Noss yeah it's not it's not them it will make sense of Philadelphia's the Grizzlies but it's not them it can't be

hmm could oh no no no I was going to say this is the Philadelphia 70s but Tyree's match is not an 81 overall definitely yeah can't be them maybe it's like I don't know if Sabonis is higher than an 80 he's also a center too he's definitely that's what I'm saying he's higher

Man, I'm trying to think, like, honestly, low-key, actually, it probably isn't. The Blazers, this wouldn't be the Blazers. It is not the Blazers. But think about that team construction-ish, and think about the other conference. Who's the Eastern Conference Blazers? It's not the best comparison, but like that's tier of players, like the tier of teams without their main guy, but like full of mid, full of solid guys. And maybe you'd be like, if they're on the market, some teams would want them. The Raptors?

This is the Raptors. Ew. Yep, yep. This is the Raptors. Ew. Yeah, okay. You got Scotty Barnes and Brandon Ingram, 8584. Gotcha.

Makes sense. They are just like, yeah, they're there. Yeah. They're in the mud. Seeing it via 2K rating, you're like, damn, they really don't have a lot of great players. Yeah. But they don't have bad players either.

They really re-uped on Yaku Perto. Perto. And they're paying $28 million a year or whatever to quickly at 81 of Raw. Yeah, that sucks right there. Audrey Bear, 82 of Raw. Yeah, that sucks. But not a bad team. They're one star leap away from being interesting.

if scotty barn jump from 85 to 95 this team would be interesting yeah that's what they're going to jump out the gym bro and brandy aren't got to be better too which team is this ah no nobody's good best player is an 81 overall 81 81 81 fuck 78 is this the brooklyn nets this is not the brooklyn nets feels very Chicago bulls yeah that does feel like right yeah it's Chicago Bulls hell no it's not Chicago Bulls you know Josh Giddy's like 88 Josh Giddy 88 you know they love his county stats. 81

center. Could this be the Washington Wizards? It could be. And it is. Okay. This is the Washington Wizards. Good job. I was not going to get that. Chris Middleton's in 81. That is C.J. McCollum.

Oh, fuck. I forgot. We're so deep into the opposite. I have to go back and like Lickrassiz. That is Bob Carrington, Cajum McCollum, Belal Coole, Bali. 79 of Ross, Chris Middleton, and Alexander Sard, 81. Oh, okay. It makes sense. Yep, yep.

And that's the last one for the day. Damn. We're done. We're done. That's pretty. You guys are decent. Yeah. Not the best, but not terrible.

Yeah. Next thing we're going to do, I'm going to show you two young NBA players. You tell me which one is better at each of these big skills. So I got the big five general categories of impact on the game. You guys let me know who's better at each one of these to see who wins three out of five. First off, Chet, home grid, and Sangoon. Easy.

Passing Sangoon got that. Yeah. He doesn't use as much as we thought he would as a prospect. But I think with Kevin Durant there, he'll get back to me more of a passing hope. How do you want to talk about finishing? Because they're both not the best. I think, again, I think with Kevin Durant there, Sangun will get better as a finisher.

But I also think with out of broken hip, Chet will get better as a finisher. Yeah. And I think there's more hope that Chet shoots better. Actually, no, that's a student in different category. Yeah. I think for finishing I might lean towards Sangun. He can do more self-created finishing right now.

Yeah, exactly. And I think that's the best way to go through it because. Yeah. Sangun gets it right now. Chet can get it back if he can get his body right. Yeah. All right, so passing and finishing are going to Schengun. Shooting should go to Chet.

Yeah. Didn't have a great shooting year. I don't think Sengun is really going to develop a three anytime soon. Yeah. I feel super comfortable going with that. And then defense, of course, it's Chet. By a mile. Yes.

Rebounding. Sengun. Again, it's another thing, Chet, last year, legs were weak as shit. Pose hit break. You could not do anything on boards. If it was a contestant, he wasn't getting it. Got to be Sengun for now.

Yeah. Okay. That's the easy one. And that's probably something that he'll always be better then. Chet's going to get better as a finisher and he gets his body back. he puts on like serious mass. Now listen Rockets fans understand right now Sangoon did just win. You can never say

we don't give Sangoon his love for his credit because right now we're giving him the win over your home week. Yeah and he is more well-rounded right now. But the thing is the defensive gap is like several tiers and that's the most important category. Exactly. But he gets his love. Yeah, show us. We don't hate him.

We're just honest. Next up, Victor Women Yama versus Anthony Edwards cross-position with the two young superstars. Yeah, Wimby's in a, he's an elite passer for his position. So he shows flasks as a really pastor, but he's not quite at the point where it's like materializing?

Material, whoa. Material, whoa, that's a hard word to say. Materializing. It's not, he's not out here like stacked up assists yet, but I think he will get there. He averred like four assists per game. For his position, that's like high.

Yeah, no, you're right, it is good. That's high. For his position, he's a better shooter. Anthony Edwards does more. I think he might actually average one assists less than Anthony Edwards. So we're giving to him for position bias? Nah, we can go ahead.

What's that movie? He said, he has developed as a passer Before a lead guard I think you go ahead The passing display that he put on Against the Lakers Hey man,

He deserved it for this one He took a lead genuinely as a passer Yeah, the bar's kind of low though Like He didn't just making some regular passes He's some cross-court skip passes though For sure, so I'm like, okay Okay, we'll go and passing.

Finishing, Wemby's going to be a better finisher almost anybody because you can throw him a lot 10 feet in the air and he'll catch it. Shooting should be in. Yeah. I hope so. For last year, it's almost everybody that's not Curry.

And then defensive rebounding, go to Wemby. Yeah, nice close. No, I don't think anybody's in a rival who many of those categories any time soon.

All right, so he has... So who won that? I think Wemby 1. Wembe 1. Finishing defense and rebounding. So yeah. Makes sense. Evan Mowley versus Zion

Williamson, two very different players. Okay, so passing is probably one of the hardest conversation. That's the easiest one of me. Zions was a way better passer. I think Wembe has soft hands at times.

I mean Mowley? My bad. Yeah. Moly has soft hands at times. There's a reason we ask for point Zion. Zion's a legitimately extremely good passer. I agree. That's how I'm like it's a hard conversation.

But I'm going, I'm giving it to Zion. Yeah. I'll go I'll go Zion passing, finishing Zion. Zion. He got it. Shooting Wemby. Moble. God damn, Wemby.

Mobley. Glazing, man. Shooting in defense. Shooting is hard. Like, Moby made a leap. But he's still, like, you know, like, stationary, wide open shooter. He's not like a virtual shooter at all. It's not hard because Zion's a non-shooter.

He's a non-shooter. Non-shooter makes it sound like he's Matisse Taible. He tries to avoid it. Yeah, yeah. He knows, yeah, you're right. He avoids it. Okay. Moby will take three a game.

Yeah. Which, yeah, I honestly think, like, at that point, it really is. What was Zions of mid-range scoring? Zion will take, like, three threes in a week. Yeah. But I feel like Zion has a little bit of, like, an in-between game that if we're giving it, mid-range scoring. Let me make sure I'm not pulling bullshit.

I'm also taking like free throw shooting as well. So it's not only... Yeah, Zion shot 50% from short mid. He's kind of developed that, but the three-point shooting is pretty non-existent these days. So, okay, we can go Evan Mowgli for the three-point shooting. Yeah, we should go there. Obviously, defense goes to Mowgli, rebounding.

Rebound is interesting. Evan Mowley's a better, more consistent rebounder, but the second jump, office view of us up with Zion is like... It's very impactful. Yeah. It's like, is that... Does that bring it to another level?

Has he also... Has he been doing that quite? as much as you used to? I don't know. I don't think so. Because there was a certain point after like, I think maybe the second major injury where he's obviously, he's one of the craziest athletes we've ever seen. But it did start to look a little bit less athletic. Zion is in the 97th percentile of offensive rebounds percentage. Fuck it. Let's go to 8.6% of his team misses. I've seen Mr. Robinson do unspeakable things

ever moving. He went from like the 99th percentile to 97th. Yeah. It's actually the highest his career this year. 8.6% of his team misses. Geez. Actually, never mind, that's not the high school's career.

He got recategorized from big to forward. That's 100% out of higher. Okay. Okay. So what's going to Zah? Yeah, I think we lose

on just from the offensive rebounding stuff. But Evan Mowley's a better defensive rebounder. So like that's all that also counts. It does, but we'll just put that under defense. We'll give Zahle. Yeah,

we'll give Zilele rebounded. Next one. Hallibank Carroll versus Franz Wagner. Oh shit. Franz easily better passer. Way better passer. Finishing. actually, Franz is a better playmaker

because he's a better driver, better at consistently getting to those things. Palo can throw accurate passes. He just doesn't see him quite fast. He has the ability, yeah, but that goes along with like the brain too, which I might lean towards Rons. Yeah, Franz is much better. Reader of the defense. So it's fascinating. We'll give him that. All right, so Franz got passing.

So I want to do a finishing. Finishing. Frons is a better driver. He's a lot better driver creating paint touches. But Palo is gigantic and gets the Frito line all the time. Again, just talent. He's just large. And so for that, I'll give Franz creating, but if we're talking about finishing,

and like the plays over, what's happening, I'll give that to Pal. He's a better creator of paint touches and creator of finishing opportunities, but Palo can finish because he's fucking gigantic. Yeah. We are not giving Franz anything for shooting.

Hey, I don't want to give Palo anything for shooting either. No, but he's better than 17%. When he's better than 29%. Yeah, yeah, it's mid-off. Yeah. Because you know what, Palis is a good three-point shooter. The mid-range stuff is just is what it is. But he's a good three-point shooter,

so we'll give him that. Okay. Defense. Franz by a mile. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking at Fron. Rebounding? Paolo.

Yeah. Palo. Pallow. Comfortably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's for sure rebounding.

Powell and Fawn's for sure defense. So, Paulo got rebounding. He got shooting and he got finishing and passing. Not passing. Oh, yeah. Finnsing you right. Franz got passing in defense, which makes sense. Okay.

So we got three of them. Man, if that man can shoot, they could just work in such. Ah. And such. Scotty Barrens for his Denny. This is a very, Interesting conversation. They're both pretty good passers.

Denny's probably slightly better. When you think about these players, you don't really think that they're kind of, like, they're close to each other at all, but now it's kind of like... Daddy's got up. Yeah. This is a conversation I don't think I've had yet in my, in my head.

I don't think anybody's had this. Yeah, not at all, but passing... I don't know, Scotty Barnes is a very good passer. This is so hard for me. But if Scottie Barnes is a great passer or is the scoring kind of shitty and we're like, but he can pass though? Yeah. I feel like it's starting to get to that level.

Yeah. I guess I go Denny passing. Okay. But I still think, but I do, Scotty Barnes still might be the better passer. This is hard, man. Yeah. Yeah.

Really? It's probably so Scotty Martin's going to pass, real. I know, but like, I think you're inclined to go Denny because you're assuming something about him. What? Whiteness. We're assuming he's an elite passer.

Trust me. I know all about Denny. Trust me, I'm not assuming anything. I promise you there's no assumption on my side. God. Oh, I know, I don't too. But Denny is still a very good passer. We can go wherever you want.

I think there's an assumption that the Euro point forward guy is a wizard passer. I think Scottie's more talented to passers. Finishing. Denny's a dad had a great rim finishing year. Let's go Denny.

He's a better driver. It's weird because Scottie's so big and does have finishing to his game. Denny's so much better at creating opportunities that it makes him better. finisher. I'm cool. I'm hell of cool with Denny and finish. He deserves it. His driving ability because of the finishing,

he made him ascend an NBA R. Yeah, that's what makes him great. He's an amazing driver. Yeah. Shooting. Okay. Denny had a good shooting year. A couple years in a row, he shot about league average from a decent volume. Yeah, I just don't think I trust Scotty shooting. Watching Scottie Barnes should mid-range shots makes you want

to rip my eyes up. Scotty Barnes saw 27% from the three-point line this past year. Yeah. We can't do that. Denny, you get shooting. Defense, Dennis, Danny is a very good defender. I will get that as Scottie Barnes. I think Scottie Barnes is a great defender. I hope he gets to a role where he can focus on that more than creating.

That is something to where, and that's exactly what it is. Just ask him not to score 20 a night. Ask him not to score 25 so that he can focus on the defense. That's all we need. Because that should be and really is the calling card of his game. And they're both good rebounders, but I guess Scottie slightly better. Yeah, he got it. Just bigger.

Yeah. But they're both good rebounders. They're honestly very similar players in terms of like, the areas of the court, the occupy, their roles in an offense. Yeah. I just realized like Scotty Barnes, Denny, and then there's Jalen Johnson

all like her in a certain group of just like really good players, but you need like high high power guards around. Yeah. Okay. Next up. Cade Cunningham versus John Moran. Defense.

Cade. Pretty easily. Cade. John Morant's passing I think is a little underrated at times. Yeah, we'll go Cade. It's definitely. It's his passing.

is underrated in a sense because you get obsessed and too distracted by other parts of his game. Finishing, we're on John Moran. Even though John Moran hasn't shot incredibly well at the rim, that's kind of Kade's biggest weakness is the lack of burst doesn't quite have the vertical leap either. Shooting. Three, four shit, I just don't feel like giving

it to John. No, I mean, it's definitely Kade. Yeah, it's definitely Kade. I'm not doing that. Mid-range scoring, definitely Kade. Yeah, for sure. His back to the basket game. Yeah. The reason Kade had a lot of also leap is because he had enough mid-range scoring to make up for the lack of rim finishing. You know what this sounds like? Sounds like someone got their chain snatched.

Sounds like damn near a sweep. Wait, is this a... No, finishing with the jaw. Wow. Damn near a sweep, though. That's crazy. A man, Thompson, versus J-dub. Two amazing young defensive wings.

Defense can be damn near chalk. It's damn near chalk. It's a man, I guess. I'm... I'll go with men just because I know, like, last year, there was a small, small part of me that actually wanted to have him as my DPOI. Like, I think a man is so... Obviously,

is that level two, but, like, I'll go in men for defense, but by the slightest of market. Yeah, it's like first team all D or second team all D. Yeah. Okay. Passing. They're both solid passes. We, like, want amend to be a point guard. And, like, we've seen the flashes when he was younger in, like, in, uh, in overtime and stuff.

And he can pass the ball. He doesn't show it right now because the handle's not good enough. Yeah. Passing might need to go to go towards Jadab. Yeah, because they just don't, they don't ask him in to pass yet. Yeah. You can ask Jada to be your pseudo point guard and run the office through him because, alongside his passing too. He's obviously a threat to

score from anywhere. But I will say this can change this year. If a man's handle gets better and he can play point guard, this will change. Fair. Finishing. Amen. Amen. Amen. A men. A men's better finishers. Everybody. Three point shooting. God damn right is J-dub. Gigantic gap here. Midrary scoring. Never mind. The biggest gap here. Midrace scoring. Yeah.

Bulls shooting. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah, that aligns with the fact that Amin is a defensive athletic freak right now, but all the skill-based stuff goes to J-dub. Makes sense. Lamello ball versus Tyrese Maxy defense Tyrese Tyrese I don't think Tyrese is pulling up his shorts and lock people up but it's still him by a comfortable margin it's much more than

it's way it's definitely Tyrese I don't give a damn what happens for the rest of Lamello's career it's still gonna be Tyrese on defense and passing is still Lamello I do want to see the Mello get to be more of a lead playmaker not as much of volume score but it's still him either way easily that's fair finishing oh Tyrese not yeah yeah Lamello still hasn't become above average room finisher same thing can be said about three poor shooting as well that's an interesting conversation. Do you want the guy who would jack up difficult shots? And if you put him in a better team environment, maybe that can be impactful in the playoff setting over drop coverage or Tyrese

maxi, who's a much higher floor shooter. I think, I think like to be a good shooter, you really can't have the lows like that. Yeah. And Tyrese still can shoot off the dribble. Tyree still takes difficult shots. Yeah, she takes far shots as well, too, just like Lamello. Yeah. And I've taken more like cautiously, you know. Yeah. And I've seen enough Lamello ball to know those tough threes are going to be there whether the team is winning or not. Yeah, he's going to take tough shots. So I do want to lean Tyrese. And he doesn't just take him when the defense gives it to him.

He takes it whatever he wants. Yeah, no matter what the defense is, he's taking a hard shot. It's the process that I like better with Tyrese. Yeah. And then mid-range scoring. They're both not top of my mind as like dominant mid-range scores. I feel like they probably both have similar percentages. They're damn many chalk to me.

Yeah. They're not breaking down the interior like that at all. Yeah, last year Tyree shot 45% and LaMello ball shot 44% on long mid-range shots. Yeah. So Tyree's max, you're 1%. better you get that too sure yeah go ahead lamello ball

oh I said the mellow ball again Tyrese Halliburton versus Jalen Brunson defense which I want to do I'm gonna go Tyrese neither are good defenders Tyrese has some shot blocking has some like IQ stuff

that occasionally he makes a defensive play but neither one of them are defending one-on-one does that mean more than Brunson taking charges that's all he has you take maybe one charge of game compared to like the 90 other presence and I think Tyrese doesn't have Jaylon Brunson is such an on-ball score

has so much usage he doesn't have the energy sometimes Lamella Ball, I mean, Tyrese doesn't play like that. He doesn't always have those energy issues. Yeah. And I think with Tyrese too, what helps with those energy issues that his hands is just more active. He's a higher IQ defender.

Okay. Passing. Halliburton. Halliburton. He's got that. And finishing. Brunton, Brunton. Finishing Brunson for sure.

Do you know not to say much about that? Do you point shooting might be a conversation. That's a chalk. Damn near to me. Brunson, I don't, I don't think, I think the fact that Brunson is able to take harder. His threes are harder. And if you get, like, he could do the catch and shoot stuff.

Tyrese also takes hard off the dribble threes. But not, not to the volume that, that Brunson is. I think it might be pretty similar. I haven't been able to be off the dribble three point volume. It's probably pretty similar. No, I'm gonna go bruntz. Tyrese shot 40% last year. Tyrese has shot 40% every single year of his career.

Yeah. Except for 2024. Because he shot 34% from the corner of that year. So 37 overall. Yeah, and he's been shooting like seven, eight threes a game. It might be Oliver, I'm sorry. But mid rate scoring is by a mile. Jaylon Brunson.

That's the biggest gap here. Exactly. That's the biggest gap here by far. I do. Also, the clutch threes, you felt the pain personally. We're giving it to Tyree's Halliburton. Yeah, Tyreys Halliburton takes more threes and hits them at the same rate. First of all, Neesmith who's making them three.

You were getting gangbanked. You were getting gangbanked. You felt the pain. All the directional threes. All angers, you were feeling. Why are we doing this? He was catching loads. Like so.

Cooper flag versus Dylan Huffer. This is nasty. It's disgusting. Defense. Cooper flag. Cooper flag pretty easily. Passing. Cooper flag. Great passive first position.

Dylan Harper is probably going to be a legit lead point guard. Finishing. Cooper flag. You're gigantic. Three point shooting. Nobody. Maybe Cooper. I think Cooper flag is probably going to profile.

I think his three isn't developed of being good. Yeah. I think I'll go Cooper right now for three point shooting as well. But I also don't think Dylan Harper is going to be a bad shooter. Yeah. But right now, if we were to put him in a gym, see who can hit 10 threes from me first. I think who's going to go ahead and do that. Yeah.

Who can win a jersey at six flag. at the three-point shooting contest. Man, that thing is rigged. It is. The rims are ovals, bro. Cooper flag will still win. I'll glaze Cooper flag to no end. Mid-range scoring.

That's probably going to be Dylan Harper. I still can get over Glaze Cooper flag to no end. Not, like never-ending throat to glazing? Damn, that's a lot of glaze involved. I got a lot to go. I think, yeah, I think Dylan Harper's probably a better mid-range score. See, I think his back to get so will probably profile him to that.

Yeah. I'm going Cooper Flack. Because he says the crafty dribbling, I think he'll have more opportunities. Yeah, and just the ball handlers of Cooper Flack size typically aren't getting, like, you know, you're kind of a straight line driver. Yeah. Yeah, but I think right, again, same thing. Right now, I think I would take Cooper Flack.

But I think long term, it could be, it could be Dylan Harper. This is a long-term conversation here. So I might lean towards Dylan Harbour. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean, right now Cooper Flacks is amazing and everything compared to most rookies. So yeah, right now, it's probably better at all these things.

That's the last one. Okay. Solid, solid. Straight projecting. Choward of the Pacers kicking in next teeth. Next thing we're going to do, I'm going to name two NBA stars. I hate them so much.

I'm going to name two NBA stars. You let me know which one's career you'd rather have. Okay. So being in their shoes, they're on the court, off the court, whatever comes with being a star or an NBA player in their situation, who you'd rather be.

Okay. First off. Yokic or Curry? I'm taking step, Curry. So this is like a question of like, do you want to be quiet to yourself, dominant, making all this money or being the most famous player in the NBA?

Like Curry. I want to be the most famous player in the NBA. I want to be the most breaded player in the NBA. I want to have decently cool shoes with Andarmer, be the face of a company. I want to have an iconic celebration. And I want to be the greatest shooter of all time. Give me Curry.

And I'll just have more rings. I'll do that too. I'll take the championships. He's not focused on what matters. We're talking about clout and brink. He's focused on accolades Legacy Yeah, I'll take that

Also Go walk into a club and shut it down Yeah Yeah, exactly Also, if I can be If I can be labeled as The greatest to do one thing I'll take that

Well, Yokch might end up going now Is the greatest offensive player Of all time. He doesn't stop He's the greatest passing big man Of all time Yeah, but that's I'd rather be known

as the greatest shooter of all time Yeah, yeah, I probably It's much cooler Yeah, yeah But I think there is an argument team If someone wants to have The Quiet Lifestyle of Yokch If they're not into the fame

I think being Steph Kirby be pretty cool. Yeah, give me carry, man. You can walk into any hood and you are green. You are good, bro. I'm going to check it with nobody. He's not going to be anywhere adjacent to a hood. Dude. I don't know if Steph Curry is good. Never mind.

I remember his profile. I remember where he leads. I don't know if he's good in Baltimore. I don't know if any hood is going to protect them. Bro, do you know it's in Baltimore? Under Armour. He's good. Oh, you're right.

He's good. He's good. He's good. I pick the wrong swans. He's all the time, bro. I pick the wrong trenches. My friend. Patrick Beverly or John T.

Porter. Give me Pat Beth. Jonte was going out. You got a dumb brother who's just speaking on nothing. The other day he said,

that's the headline? Yes. He said, bro, he said, like he is a band from the NBA. There was one thing

that MPJ said. He was like, bro, everyone got their vices. Me, you know, I have vices. I know what you're going. Don't finish that.

He's an idiot, bro. I love how Michael Porter Jr. said so much bullshit that that's a bigger, that's a bigger issue that Chauton

hate to be your brother. I can't believe you're going to say that on camera just now I wasn't going to your trip He has disgraced his family name. Yeah, I know. That's been banned from the NBA. Yeah. Michael George is insane. That one you're referencing. He's a terrible guy. Like, why would you say that?

He's a terrible guy. Like, what does that have to do with anything? Give me Pat Bev. I hate that guy. Dennis Rodman or Draymond Green. Dennis was a rock star. Yeah. Or it was crazy. I guess. And my line, he was, right? You're not wrong.

Who was dressing like that back in the day? It is just funny. I'll take Dennis Rodman. Because both of them obviously are, both of them are wild boys, but everyone respects the wild booriness of Dennis Robman as opposed to Draymond Green. Well, they respected it when he was winning. You know, there's a reason he ended up on the Bulls. A couple teams threw him away because they could not deal with his insanity. And then guess what?

He won three more and then revived. All roads lead to Mike. It worked out in the end. Who, listen, you said earlier about clout and fame. I've seen Dennis Robbins's face. on graphic teas at Paxson. True. Draymond Green's face

is never going to be on a graphic tee. I've owned a Dennis Robin t-shirt before. Exactly. I would never wear a Dremont green t-shirt and I'm not going to trymong green.

If you do that, bro, you are weird. You're a loser. Stay away from me. I'm going home with Dennis. No, yeah. No sauce at all, man.

You did not put that shit on that day. Ew. LeBron James or Eudanus Haslam. Yudanis always has a job in Miami. He's always going to mind. If you pick LeBron James, you're dealing with being the most scrutinized man

on the planet. If you're Donnas Haslam, you have 20 plus years of NBA money and no stress. People outside of you being 6'9, might not know who you are. That's a level of anonymity that can be blissful. Take that NBA money that you've done as Haslam made. Guys, Braun's getting that in a year. Not even in a year in a second, bro. In a quarter.

Yeah. I will gladly be as branded as LeBron. But that's a level of fame. I don't know. I wouldn't want to be as famous. You literally can't go nowhere. You're like everyone in your family has a humongous target. What did I say earlier?

I said, what did I say? He does shut the club down. Thank you. You can shut the club down and you have the argument to be the greatest at whatever you do. But really don't want to shut the club down. I don't think I do. I think I want to go home and relax. What's the pull that?

Everything that you do is scrutinize. And I can do that. Everything that you do is scrutinize, bro. In multiple areas. Yeah, there's paparazzi. I was not looking through your window. I don't want that. I can have multiple homes.

You can't hide nowhere though. Yeah. Yes, that is true. give me eudanus has them I'm not going to sit up here and call eudan is broken maybe they're not like 16,000 square foot mansion

but he can have multiple homes yeah he can have a mansion and two more summer homes I'll say I'll say this only one of these players can go to the Masonian room at the Bibois

I guess he may he's not go with Drake anymore he can still go though true he can still go I think a low key with you guys has him I really would not want to be LeBron level of fame.

It is. That would be a horrible, like, I mean, can you imagine people talking about, like, your son, your kids, and shit? Saying, oh, yeah, he's trash. Oh, yeah. And you can't beat them because you're 6'9 and it'll be a felony because you're going to kill them. Yeah. He could.

He could have hit Stevenson. Like, bro, I can't hit Stephen. I'm not saying kill him. But, like, he could have did something. This one chopped to the neck. If you want. Yeah. Like, have you here,

bro, have you ever... Stephen A. Smith, he's not moving for the rest of his life if that happens. He would go for sure. Yeah. Let's talk to the next crazy. J.J. Reddick or Jeff Teague, which player termed media career

would you rather have? Jeff Teague, easy. You know why? J.J. J. J. J. Reik knew what he had and he was too psycho to keep it. He had to go back to the league. That's a level of dedication that is toxic. I don't want that.

And Jeff, yeah, Jeff Teague sounded like he had amazing work-life balance. JJ is J.J. is physically incapable of running from the grind. The grind calls to him like a green goblin mask. He's going to work until he dies.

Yeah. J.J. Reddick is definitely too insane for me. I'd rather lean towards Jeffty. He got a cool show now. Tells none but jokes. No one ever criticizes him, bro. And also he put his homies on and just like has a career for life

for multiple people, bro. Yeah, I'm going to Jeffty. You think J.J. Redick is I'm putting on the hood? JJ Reddick, bro. He moved all the way from Brooklyn to L.A. Not necessarily, damn. Not yet. Can JJ Reddick walk freely in Baltimore?

Can he do that? Hell no, bro. Things will be flying towards him. You saw my parlay. Why did you play no sinners, bro? They're frying him. Do you Baltimore is worried about the parlay? Yeah.

They're worried about a lot. They're worried about a lot, man. It depends on what area of Baltimore we're talking about you. Next up, Michael Jordan or Tim Duncan. I'm sure. Everybody's worried about the parlase. Michael Jordan or Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan.

Tim Duncan. Again, the quiet reserved life of a legend that can have a little bit of privacy or the most famous man in the NBA in the world for a decade. Literally, anything that you do again will be heavily criticized. Anything that people adjacent to you

will be criticized. Exactly. Now I can't get into a little bit of gambling debt or suddenly it's a controversy. Okay. Yeah, that sounds like a life. I don't want to live. Wasn't his son dating like his teammates ex-wife or whatever? Yeah. Like, that's, come on, man. Well, that is little to do.

him. I wasn't accounted for Marcus Jordan dating Larson Pippin or whatever. Give me, go ahead. That is a good reason to pick Tim Duncan. Yeah, just quiet. You don't know anything about going on by his life. I don't see Tim Duncan Jr.

dating Eva Longoria. He wouldn't ever. Tim has better morals. That's what I'm saying. He's consistent with everything. Yeah, this might be more of a Lasha Pippin issue of the name. This might be more on her.

No, no, no, no. It stems from the tree. Might be more of the 20-year-age gap for the trader. The stems from the head of the household. I'd rather have TD, man. Listen, I praise Jeff T. Crabb and work-life balance. All Michael Jordan has is work-work balance. That's all he thinks about.

To this day. To this day, at the NBA 75, when everybody's like, man, look at this. We're the best basketball players of all time. And Michael Jones was like, Magic Johnson. just use right now. I'm doing one-on-one. I've hit, so you bitter bumps

to the 86. Like, relax, dude, yeah. Relax. Tim Duncan kind of does have the ideal life.

He does. Of being a legend that just chills. He's the definition just writing into the sunset forever. But also, like Michael Jordan

is, you remember it is one the greatest athletes of all time for like a hundred years. That's pretty cool. But would you want to, would you personally want to

want to deal with Michael Jordan level of fame? No, and I don't want to do a Larson Pippin, so I'm going to go to Tim Duncan. Derek Rose or Al Horford Hey Al Horford man

You want the moment The peak you know what Didn't reach your potential But your potential was so crazy Because we saw a glimpse of it Or do you want 20 year career Al Horford Win a ring

See And this is kind of hard Because like Derek Rose And his connection to Chicago Is obviously like Loved And everybody likes

Like Derek Rose But like it's so singular And so synonymous With Chicago Where Are you disrespecting to The Dominicans I was trying to

get there. All right. Just making sure. You got to get the quicker. Don't disres back. Speed up the Dominican love. I want to hear your first sentence. No, take your pick.

Take your pick. No, I want to hear Dominican love as the intro. Dominican love aside, I'm taking Derek Rose. I don't know who I love that. He has a great combination like you absurdly love, but also you live a quiet life. Like, no one is checking in with you like that at all. I mean, I think I'll take Horford. I think I'll take Horford.

Forfe's made a lot more money in his career. He has a ring. Yeah, he does have a ring. I have some national championships. Wait, Horford does? Yeah. Back to back. Oh, you're right.

I forgot about that. Him and joking, no, we're running the college streets. I forget about that. Yeah. But he's never going to get his jersey retired by anyone. What? Who's retiring on Hoorford's Jersey? Will the Celtics retire 42 maybe?

Fuck no. The Hawks won't. Yeah, I guess the Huggist. You're probably right. The Hawks might. No, we're not. He left us. He left.

He left. We're not doing that. That was such an inconsequential era of Hawks basketball. Yeah, like, when he left her, like, oh, fuck, what are we doing? Dwight, no, he's not getting his jersey. Maybe, maybe he might get a retired. No. No one's remember.

Tony Allen got his journey. Yeah, I'm thinking maybe. Well, that, no, that was in Memphis. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, the way that he joined them in free agency when no Celtics had got free agents for a while. That is very much. They came back to mentor and helped him win a championship.

Maybe the Celtics could, but really, I think he hasn't retired there for the Celtics, and it doesn't seem like he's going to. Yeah. I don't know. Has he made a decision? I can't remember. He's still. He's going to sign with the Warriors.

It's still in the air for whatever reason. Yeah, but it seems like he's going to be a warrior. Because they said that two months ago. Yeah, I don't know what's holding up his decision. Oh, the comming a thing is holding up everything. Makes sense. Yeah, because what did they do with, that roster spot? Yeah, I'm going with D. Rose.

Okay. Plus, you got a cooler last name. Derek Rose. No one is rapping about Al Horford, too. Really, think about it. Don't let Baby John hear that. Challenge accepted. Next one, I actually forgot to make slides for the last few.

Anthony Edwards or Jason Tatum. Oh, Anthony Edwards or Jason Tatum? Listen, shout out, Ant. Oh, shit, give me Jason Tatum. I'll take Jason Tatum. Not even thinking about it twice. I would say Jason Tatum. I'll take the family man.

Yeah, I just think like, even as like the, even as scrutinized as Jason Tatum is, there's a piece about his life and career that I would like. Brother, you went to Duke. You went ahead. I actually don't like that. Why? Points off. I don't like Duke. We don't, we don't, we don't rock with them.

Regardless, Anthony is cool issues. Ooh, that is very true. I would hate to be walking around with them, Jays. Oh, yeah, I can't do that. Yeah, I'll take it. Never mind. Yeah, and if you're Jason Tam,

you're contractually obligated to wear team Jordan's outside. Oh, hell now. I'm going, Anthony Edwards. I guess. Count that slide. Bleed at. Jaylon Brown or Rudy Gobert.

Jaylon Brown. I can't be disrespected the way that Rudy Gober has been. Riggore got bread, though. They only disrespect him here in the States. They don't do that. that over there. Are you aware of Jalen Brown's contract?

Oh, I thought you said Jalen Brunson. No, Brown. Yeah, I'm taking Jailen Brown. Jailen Brown's like a top five highest paid player at the NBA. No, I'm picking Jailen Brown because he has the best job in the NBA. As a second star to the most criticized player, it doesn't matter how good he plays. He will never catch heat as long as Jason Tatum exists. First NBA player to get $300 million?

And no expectations to come along with it. He can go out there and stink it up. No one gives a fuck because we're going to call Jason Tatum a fraud for allowing. his teammate to stink it up and he got the finals MVP that is true there's always going to be a crowd of people saying if he was the number one option off of nothing but imagination we're going jalen brown and everything listen obviously tatum is a better player everybody in that city is like you should be more like jalen brown that is true uh Stephen adams or jeff green Stephen adams or jeff green i'll go i'll see Stephen adams even though that jeff green has a has a ring give me uncle jeff he stays

of the job, too. Stephen Adams still has a job. Yeah, he's young. I mean, obviously, yeah, but it's more president. He just got a new contract. He does, yes. But Jeff Green's played with so many teams. He's left to stand across so many teams of the league, bro.

But also, Stephen Adams walks into a room and everyone's like, we can't mess with him. Yeah, but also, Jeff Green walks into a room. He has a certain level of respect where they call him Uncle Jeff. Just because you all don't mean. I mean, it's a certain level of respect. Give it three more years. Uncle Stephen Uncle Stephen.

He's too goofy to want to call the Uncle, bro. You don't want that. Damn. He never won a championship too. That's also... What has Jeff Green?

He did. In 23 with the Nuggets. Oh, yeah. See, he's also a champion as well. Yeah, give me Jeff Green. Okay. I go Stephen Adams. Next thing we're going to do.

I'll be awkward man. You'll be okay. I'm going to name a series of 90s NBA players. You'll let me know if they'd be better or worse than Steph Curry if he played the 90s.

Okay, so we're going. We're going back and take Steffville. Curry in the 90s. And if you think we'd better than these guys. This is 90s basketball. So think about the style of the game,

how he'd change it, the any restraints that we put on him by the 90s ecosystem, whatever may mean to you, who you'd rather have in 1996. Gotcha. Level one, would you rather have Steph Curry

or Gary Payton? Steph. For that era. Yeah, I'd take Steph. It's a close conversation. But Gary Payton, those matches would be must-see TV. I can't believe you're considering this.

Yeah, I think I'm taking Steph. But I'm considering because of the defense event And seeing how the rules were back then They would like try their best to abuse stuff But I'm leaning towards that Because what he would do on offense would be Yeah, it would just be fun Because you know Gary Payne would get up

For every single one of those games And he's like, I'm gonna use all six of my fouls tonight Yeah Don't let them convince you The 90s were a different sport in that way They would not abuse Steph Steph would be fine In terms of just trying to pick on him

Yeah They pick on him now It's honestly they can pick on them more now With the spacing And the way you can isolate against them Him having to defend LeBron James in the finals is worse than any picking on that they could do in the 90s.

John Stockton, level two. Having no help defense, though? It's tough. I'll take, I'll take stuff. You should have flipped it. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm taking stuff. It's not even close. John Soxon is level one and three, 90s basketball. Level three, Charles Barclay. I'll take seven. Like, it just, listen.

Salute, Charles Barkley, the perpetual third player in the world in 1990s. I'm going to step very. It's something, it's something different when as soon as you have to cross half court you have to guard them and there's probably two people in the 90s who were actually equipped to run around with step and to guard him from from that high yeah yeah charles will say the chance he would transform the

game 20 years prior yeah level four akim elizuan this is very hard a lead two-way player won two chips in the 90s like he has he showed he can do it yeah if if i were in the 90s I would say give me the seven-foot demon who can play both waves It would be so much harder to build around Steph back then. You say that, but like, what if we have already seen Steph Curry come to the league and be the best shooter of all time, transform in the game earlier? Like, threes were allowed in the 90s. He would still shoot him?

For sure. But would he be criticized to death about his bisoned coaches? Probably. I mean, probably not when he was shooting 44% in 30. It's not like the 60s where it's like, give it to the big. Like, they had shooters in the 90s. I think he could do his thing. Yeah, but it's still like a big dominated inside out type of game.

And so I do think for a conventional wisdom, you'd probably take Hakeem over, Steph in, in 1992. But we know Steph is a, yeah, let's go step. So I will go stuff. I'm praying that. Even though, even though that I don't think I have Steph higher than Hakeem all time. Yeah. But I will take stuff in this hypothetical. Okay.

Level five, Michael Jordan. Yep. This is where it's over. Yep, yep. We gave you a little bit of lee away with Hakeem. Can't do it here. Greatest player of all time. What do you want me to do?

That's the first time he's ever said that. In this conversation, when it comes to these all-time players that we use, on the mic, he said Michael Jordan is the greatest player. The biggest LeBron, I know, said it. Gary Payton, and you also put it in this hypothetical. He's the greatest player of this time. You betrayed your king. He's the greatest player of this time.

Treason. The greatest player of this time. In Game of Thrones, your head would have been cut off. AI, this is edited. You can't prove it otherwise. All right, man. What next thing we're going to do? Let's play a game of Kansas.

Keep 4 cut for. Mo, what do you got for us today? Ooh, this time around, we're going to play Keep 4 Cut 4 NBA Celebration Edition, though. Okay. So I got a couple of celebrations and I want to see what you guys want to keep or cut. First one up, we got Jal Morant's grenade throw. Yeah, I'm cutting that. Whoa, you're cutting it?

I like it a lot. I'm cutting it. You're cutting it? Do it right now, see if you cut it. See how you feel like. Yeah, let me get a reaction real quick. All right. Let me see if I can remember.

So what's he do? He just... Yep. That's tough. The cover in the ears, it's tough. That's tough. He's like underhand, right? I forget.

He just tossed it out. I'm keeping it. It's hard. That's tough. Okay. Russell Westbrook, baby rocking. See, this, you have to keep. That's a real key.

We got to keep that. That's like not even just Russell's thing anymore. Everybody does it forever. Yeah. That's keeping it. He's genuinely impacted basketball closer with that. Two straight keeps. Okay.

What about Steph's a night? night. See, I personally, I like it. However, there are other, there are better Steph Curry celebrations, and so I will cut this. I just don't want to have one keep left. If we didn't keep job, we would keep Steph, but for the sake of the game

and not running out of keeps, we'll cut it. Okay. But it is a great celebration that's growing on me. Actually, no, let's just keep it. It's night night. Do you want to keep it? You know what? He did do the night night in the finals. Yeah, it's iconic. We got to keep that night. That is very true. We have three gone. I'm a soapia. No, we'll have to cut him. Okay. Jaylon Brunson's three point celebration

Cut that's the mouth over damn Easy cut You can't cut that That's an easy cut Wow okay It's cool when Jalen Brunson does it But it's really just because Jaylon Brunson's cool It's not like a crazy celebration

And it's cool because he wears like the thumb wrap And so like there's some extra added on to it But like it's just you're just putting three Yeah it's fine Tatum does the same thing with like the kissing That's right That's not cool when he does it Because Jalen Brunson is just cool

Well Tatum does it here Brunton does it here That's the difference The difference is it's in the 45 degree angle Okay, I understand. Okay. Ew, ew, ew. LeBron's silencer.

We, see, we have to keep. It's iconic when LeBron does it. No, but everybody has done it. Across sports, people have done it. Crossport goes a long way. But now, I mean, this is just going to be our last one. I can't cut the silencer, man. That's like my arrow, but I got it at basketball 2011,

seeing him be the villain doing it. I can't cut the silencer. We're keeping it. We're keeping it. We're keeping it silencer. Wow. Okay. And the last few was Trey Young's ice and my son.

veins okay immediately wait the trey young's ice my veins this my bad yeah shrug so what is it tray young it's too cold in here oh it's too cold in here okay yeah we'll cut that that's cool it's too cold in i'm okay we'll cut that one damn okay so we cut so we cut brunson's we cut trays yeah you cut brunsson cut tray mj shrug was there that's that's okay that's that's a singular moment he didn't do that all the time yeah that's fine that's not an iconic celebration it's an iconic moment because mj but it's fine and the last one was mellows three to the day

dome. I'm fine cutting that too. He won't be fine with it. That hurts. That hurts. I don't give a damn. That's fine. I'll cut that. That hurts. I don't know. That's iconic as hell. We should have taken that one over Joe's grenade, but yeah, but I'm, I love it. I feel you on that. But I don't know. This is carry.

This will carry on for ever. If Jal like got fine for doing it, I did it again. I appreciate audacity. You know, that is true. He did. He did do it. I never lost. He never lost money because of this. And that makes me like less. At that point, listen, That's hustling back

He's not one to sacrifice for it I don't know but also like doing this too It's more efficient even on the basketball court Like going ahead and turn it around Turn your back on the defense that's kind of risky It's foolish Yeah, you ask me kind of risky You say you need to celebrate the right way?

Not saying it's the right way It's more Just real quick You're back on defense Oh yeah I'm sure Mela got back on defense I'm sure he was hustling it Go protect the room Relax relax

Last thing we're going to do hustle and go back to serraids. We are going to play NBA charades. I have the box full of faces that we do the forehead game with and we're going to do charades with them. So I'm going to mix them all up. I'm going to draw one to see who the player is and I got to try to act it out. You doesn't know what charades is. Yeah. You guess who it is and we'll take turns doing it. So let me draw a name. Let me not look. You guys closed. You guys closed. You showed you the camera. Yeah. I show the camera. Keep your eyes closed. This is who I got. Okay, you guys go ahead and open your eyes Ready I'll say light skin No, chat, Tyler Hero Their light skin

Jason Tatum, Devin Booker Handsome as hell Jordan Pooley is Kelly Ubray? Oh yeah, Jordan Poole You said? Yeah, Jordan Poole Oh, you did the Jordan Poole me Yeah I was like, Mama Lisa

I got that one fast Okay Look away. Make sure you point to the camera after. I love that there's a universal light skin motion. Okay. Show the camera.

Camera is shown. This is my player. Okay. You ready? Yep. Okay. Also, lights.

Once again. Can't tell anything. Strong. Doesn't been. Strong. Tatum? Get off me. Tatum.

Strong light skin. Oh, with the handle? Okay. Tyree Taliburton? This is... Okay, this is difficult. A strong light skin. Steph Curry?

No. Don't know what passes. It looks like Tyre's Albert to me. Bounce passes. Okay. Fundamental passer. Swad and shots? Chastown block?

Playing volleyball? It's not LeBron. He dancing? It doesn't look like a step back. It looks like. Jamon Brunson? No. Okay.

I don't know. Talk about, Why are you out of breath? I'm holding my breath right now for no reason. You were holding your breath for no reason. This is super intense right now. He's like, I'm running out of,

I'm not only running out of breath but I'm running out of ideas. It's like so hard to impersonate this player. Wemby? He was blocking shots. He stepped back. He handled. He can do everything.

He can do everything. He's, light skin we know that what the fuck is that he's a point guard he's dictating it he's a point guard John Stockton lights get boy oh I said like it Jason kid

Afro he's an afro he's an afro what the he points he's that point guard with an afro Sean Livingston No what point guards have afro he's light skin with an afro point guard

Maybe he just has hair Keep going Like, let's get a point guard with the afro. Just think about that. Okay. It's not like NBA Street or something. What the fuck I was going to do? Okay.

I'll forgive up. Who is it? Oh my God. Derek White. Cade Cunningham. Cade, yeah. Okay. It's big.

Yeah. Afro. Okay. You can shoot block shots. Like, what else can I do with Cade? Yeah, I guess I could have got that. Damn. It's.

It's hard. Is it what the hell do I do? I was going to I'm like Fuck man No fine I close my eyes What's diamond's player

Let me pick somebody I I picked I picked somebody See who it is And I am going to show the camera Cool And now

We're good Yeah What we got Self lob Blake Griffin He's catching a flyer Obie Topping Okay

Tomahawk And you Tomahawk choked Blake Griffin again Oh and he killed you Cradle Dunn Vince Carter Yeah It's a bunch of different dogs

Jammarant Hell of different dunks Yeah He's a high fire A versatile dunker I'm talking I wonder what the choking He choked

Like he's he He's a choker Like I thought of he's just dunked in different ways okay oh so he died he got he got posted they dunked on him

he got dunked on Jason Terry okay he died Kendra Perkins Kent self-oop and he can dunk too so you got dunked on

and he can dunk too He spoke to him on this dicky shit. Yeah, what's something else? I can't tell if he got dunked on. I think he dunked on somebody and, like, caught a body and, like, killed him. But I think of Anthony Edwards, I think about that.

Dwayne Wade, killing Anderson Bergerzow. Much bigger, okay. Vince Carter, I said that. Bigger than Ms. Carter. So, like, Aaron. Gordon. Aaron Gordon. Much bigger.

John Joe Jordan? Oh, yes. DeAndre Jordan. Okay, okay. I feel like I said that earlier. You did it. I was trying to say he killed Brandon

Yeah, okay He's killed who? Brandon Knight Oh yeah And I was trying to throw Lobb for Lob City Yeah, that makes sense okay

I said Blake here for damn Okay Let's do you one more round Okay Close on my eyes I'm not doing that one I pulled this And you pull

You just Oh okay Yeah just pick another one Oh man I'd have been so bad Okay So how bad do you want to win? Here's what I got

This is gonna be funny Okay Okay You ready? Yes Let's lock in So Okay

We got handles Probably a point maybe Illuminati No Crown Triangle Oh that's Oh that's

They're woke They're a thinker This is Kyrie Irvin Yeah he said it that's oh yeah oh yeah

no all right I'm going to pick one that that big old X is hilarious oh this is this is easy,

okay close your eyes This is a hilarious segment for audio listeners. I know. At this point, you know, Spotify has a video now. If I'm not switching over to video, when something like this happens, I'm not to tell you.

Camera, they see my player. People are just trying to drive and they hear silence. Too bad for 10 minutes. As far as A and Ressling. What's going on? All right. All right.

First hint. Okay. Oh, Kareem. Yeah. That's easy. Yeah. I was like, damn. I got a good.

That's a wide easy one. All right. Last one. Who's my first player? I forgot. Who did I do first? Oh, Jordan Bull. Oh, yeah.

I picked a player. Okay. Last one. Go out to bang. All right. This is my player. Never mind. You ready?

Open our eyes. Yeah. Okay. Open your eyes. Left-handed shooter. Left-handed shooter, okay. Oh, left-hand, like. Black?

No. He's white. Genoble. Left-hand, light, Genoblee? He said black, no. None of that. Okay. Oh, there's no melody.

Solid. That's funny, so. And that's the end of this episode. If you're still here in comments, no melody I don't want to see the other comments what should they call it you still here

that would have been crazy that is bad no my gosh we don't want it that's crazy it's not allowed oh my gosh

if you're still here shout out to you we'll see you we'll see our next week