The Deep 3 Podcast - We Reacted Live To The Jrue Holiday, Kristpas Porzingis, and Jordan Poole Trades! | TD3 Live

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

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We are live. Dude, close your mouth. I'd do it again. Oh, shit, on full screen. What up? Let me see one more time? No. One more time?

You're asking me to open my mouth wide. Open a wide. For what? Entertainment. Oh, you're disgusting. We are here. Appreciate everybody here. Nice, bright and early for the live.

The last live of the pre-draft process. The draft is tomorrow. We will actually be live for the draft It's not on the channel yet But if you guys are watching this VOD Either tonight or tomorrow Tune in on draft night We're gonna do a live reaction draft

For the NBA draft like we did last year Should be good But tonight Tonight we're not here to talk about the draft Tonight Tonight Tomorrow night We are here to talk a little bit about the draft

You know we'll do some talk about The rumors leading up to the draft night But we have lots of NBA Trade talk to talk about today man What's going on? Two NBA trades happened in the last 24 hours. A lot is going on. We got Jordan Poole being moved.

Anthony Simons being moved. All of these off the dribble shooting guards that can't play defense are being shipped out of their towns. God damn. Lots to discuss there. Lots of news going on. What do you guys want to start? I guess let's start with the Drew thing.

Okay. Yeah. This was one of the more surprising trades in a long time. Chad's asking, are we can talk about Jordan Poole trade. Yes, we are. But first we got to talk about the Boston Celtics, sending Drew Holiday to the Portland Trailblazers for Anthony Simons and two second round

picks. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. My tweet, my reaction to this was, if you asked me to list every single team in the NBA that I think would trade for Drew Holiday knowing he's available, there's probably 29 teams I would name before the Portland Trailblazers. Yeah, it's really. It's massive part. The Portland Drubblazes

have traded for Drew Holiday twice. I know. That's so redundant. It feels so like, redundant. What are we doing at this point? The same player that they traded, when they traded Dame, they got the same player for Anthony Simon. It's such a weird, like, dynamic for who they traded for.

It makes sense, obviously, for the Celtic side, because we've known it for the last year, year and a half, basically. It's like, yeah, they're going to be expensive. And as soon as Tatum tears or ruptures his Achilles, you know that somebody's getting moved. They're not going to pay all this money just to be trash. And so this was the first dominoes, and they're probably going to be doing another move. Chat, what do you guys think? I saw someone in the chat, what do you guys think?

I saw someone in the chat say Celtics fleece, somebody else saying Celtics sold. So I think there's a harsh difference with how people are viewing this. Some people view it as the Trailblazers, what the fuck are they doing? Some people are like, yo, Anthony Simons is a future star. They got him for an old player that they thought was a negative contract? What? No. So I lean towards the side of this is a fantastic deal for the Celtics.

I don't know who y'all view is early winners, but... We can talk about the Celtics first. They're an easy winner for this, for sure. Yeah, I think this is a... They fleece to me. And when you say fleece, that sounds like... typically you like stole a good player that you want long term.

I don't give a damn about Anthony Simons when it comes to the Celtics. He's an expiring contract. I think they're probably going to give him high usage and try to flip him at the deadline, get more assets for him, which is good. What matters is he's an expiring contract and he's coming off the books.

They're no longer in a second apron after this trade. Drew Holiday has three years left on his deal. And he had a gargantuan deal for someone of his age and role as well. They just simply got off that deal and they got picks back. They got two second round picks. How did they get paid to get off of a deal

that many run the league, not Joe Cronin, but many others run the league would view as a negative contract. Honestly, to me, what it seemed like is there was a bidding war for someone like Drew Holiday. And it makes sense as to why they would want to give up two second round picks. What I have done it, probably not. But I feel like Chonty Billups and Drew Holiday,

I think they had like a conversation, was it last year or two years ago when Dane was traded there initially? And so he's somewhat feeling with him. And I feel like the front office really wanted to fortify their identity and get an adult in the room. and actually give the keys to some like Shaden Sharp or it could be School Henderson as well.

Now, what I've done it, I don't really know. But, wait, why are you dying? Because they're frying me, bro. Are they frying you? I was like, so a couple of people in the chat were saying Donovan's hot and then one person came in to humble him and said, he needs to go to turkey. They're frying.

I was going to ignore it, but Donovan was disrespectful. What did you not even do there? Because we liked that because we saw the same, he saw the same comment at the same time. Somebody earlier was like, oh, yeah, we bullied Don out of wearing colors. Now he's just wearing MPC fits. Yeah. Real quick, shout out to Walking 37 for tipping $5.

He should shout out Isaac for trading Mo to numbers on the board. Crazy trade season. What the fuck? We traded you for D-Mills, I guess. Oh, hell no. Y'all lost that trade. Shout out to 4KT. Monum for donating $5.

He said Timberwolves and won't get all the next season. I'm a care what y'all say. I'm a D-Ride aunt. Nice. You need to throw in the last part. Shout out to you. And shout out to Kevin Glecky for tipping $10. He said, Brad Stevens, goat GM, changed my mind.

Yeah, he's honestly. I mean, he's cooking. He's cooking. So this deal, like you said, it sounds like the Trobleasers just wanted Drew Holiday for reasons you said that they want to build a defensive identity. They want to be a good team next year. They're tired of just perpetually rebuilding and not making progress. They made progress. I think they just really wanted to rush.

Yeah, that's what I mean. And, like, get more adults in the room for their point guards specifically. Yeah, they want to, maybe not to say no progress. I showed that all the good role players, but no progress in terms of making the play in and getting back to where they were. So they want to accelerate that, like you said. They see Drew Holliday as a guy who can come in and do that and not take away from the young guys at all. He can help clean the development, feed him, be a back to being a point guard.

Yeah. It also sounds to me like they're just like through with the Anthony Simon's experience to some degree. Which, you know, over the years, he's one of those guys that has always been like, hey, let's see, peep the development, we'll see where he goes. He can break out. You can shoot off the dribble. has a tantalizing skill set nothing else around that has really developed he was a dreadful defender last year on a team that is full of great defenders and clearly wants that to be their identity

or at least needs that to be their identity because none of the star guards that they thought they were drafting have really made that leap so i can understand why they feel like simons just like isn't necessarily the guard of the future for them yeah and it also i like it because it brings clarity because they've had this like three guard thing going on with scoop with simons with shading sharp and now you get one of them out the building it gives a little bit more leeway to to school and to Shaden Sharp to both go out and do their thing for all those reasons because you know Drew, Drew Holley's not going to come in and, you know, score 20, do all that stuff. So you get some more offensive flexibility from your back court. So I don't, I don't hate it.

And I do think that especially the bottom of the West, yes, it's very competitive, but getting into the play in and getting some experience in some high leverage moments, even if it's just something that he's either going to be in the playing or can you make it run in like the in season tournament and just be in some type of high leverage games that's that's fine and you don't really have anybody on this team that has experience in those moments

and so I'm cool with the Blazers going, wait, what happened? There's a comment on the bottom. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I understand the thought process of wanting to get decent, right? Like it's like, it's understandable. You can't be bad forever.

We're seeing the fruits of tanking perpetually aren't what they once were with the new flattened lottery odds. So I think we're not used to it yet, but a lot of these teams are perceived as being bad, bottom of the west, bottom of the east, are going to continue to get competence just because you're rewarded equally for being the ninth-forst team in the NBA

as you are for the third worst these days. So that makes sense. The contract is bad. Like Drew did take a step back last year pretty substantially. He's still good. He's still better than Simons. Yeah, he's still got better. I think his name is super cloudy.

He's still better than Simons. You're right because overall, the defense is insane. Wrong black guy. but the defense is insane and also i think his name is all so clouded because of the injuries that he went through last year of course he's getting up there in age but in my mind i feel a lot better and i think they generally got i don't know five the games better when it comes to adding stopping drew holiday for infarney simons now health is a big concern of course but five games they won i think 36 games last year the damn were a 41 team and that's directly where they want to

be at in the plans and they'll probably be that next year makes sense so I understand that they'll have a nasty defense with Kamara Denny Drew as like the top three clinging in the back is pretty solid red protection duo I understand it but man the second and third year that contract if Drew just continues to age like I guess they're not necessarily in a situation where they got to worry about finances in the coming years they're not who do they pay in the next few years like there's no no they're still looking for the guide to command this ship over there and yeah and if the if the market for Simons wasn't robust I'm sure they

asked their Orlando magic. They saw all the tweets for years or everyone was saying Anthony Simons is the shooter the magic need. They tried. I'm sure they were like, nah, we're good. Two first off picks for Anthony Simons. Fuck out my face. It went just like that.

On the Celtics end for the Simons, obviously I saw some people were like, hey man, they have to replace some creation next year for Jason Tatum. They had to get a new guy and they could create a little bit. I find it hard to believe that the Celtics value his skill set as part of this trade. I don't think that's like the, well, let me not say that. I'm sure it's like if he has a good year, great. Maybe it becomes something. but I don't think him making them better next year

to win games is necessarily the purpose. Yeah, no, like if that was the case trying to win games, they wouldn't have traded for something like every time because his skill set very much like overlap with someone like Payton Pritchard. Sounds crazy, but they have elite score. He can get his own shit off one-on-one, but when it comes to facilitating with others,

there's not much room for that, which really hinders his growth and development as a player. So ceiling is limited. They're in the check saying, I don't care if you were right, Isaac. You're still doing tricks on the thunder. Stop glazing. We didn't even mention the thunder once.

What's going on, man? They're obsessed with my appreciation of the thunder more than I appreciate the thunder. That's really what it comes down to. But yeah, Simon's definitely closer to Peyton Pritchard than he is to the guards he was once compared to when he was in like conversations with, oh, I don't know, what young players was in conversations. At one point it was like SGA before he went crazy. That's disgusting. But like, you know, like a couple years ago, it was like him, Jordan Poole, who else was young guards?

Maybe Jeline Green, maybe. Stuff like that, right? And while we named those two guys, maybe they are still in the same conversation. But, you know, nobody in that conversation took the lead that was expected. So, yeah, I think you could channel him and get him to be a solid player

in a better environment, I'm sure. I'm sure we'll see him defend better if he's... Actually, I didn't mean to say that because the Blazers were a good defense infrastructure last year. So, yeah, I'm not even going to say that, but maybe they can channel his shooting and get something out of him and really build that value up and trade him again.

But I think he's pretty much an expiring contract. Yeah, and the defense of infrastructure for Boston, especially now, now that Jews gone and Tatum is going to be out for the whole year, you're going to have, obviously Derek White is there. Is KP going to be there? Even if he's on the roster, is he going to be healthy enough to play? And then out Horford is getting older every year. So I don't know how elite I can expect this defense to be next year. So I can't really bank on like, oh, yeah, the Celtics defensive infrastructure is going to carry simons and do all this stuff it feels like you said you're going to trade simmons at the

deadline and do all that it feels very much um the warriors getting delo yeah a couple years ago and it's like if if the fit works awesome but if not you're gone and we're just going to you know move on from that and then eventually that deal got them and you wiggins and it got them back into a title contention window yeah it's it's the same thing for the for the subjects right now is everything is can we set up to be good not next year but the year after and even even then the year after that once they're had the whole year to come back and be healthy and do all that so we're really building for like two and a half three years down the line and trading simons at the deadline or if he has a good season and then trading him in the off season that's really going to

propel you full yeah yeah you dump true holiday and you get a player that could maybe become another pick at worst it becomes a neutral dumping and drew holidays contract to duck the apron solid deal I'll grade that. That's a, that's an A for the I agree. Like in a couple of months from now, who knows in December or January, he could be bawling his ass off. He could, yeah, he could be bawling his ass off. He's a very good compliment

next to John Brown, I guess. And a team like the Toronto Raptors may see it and be like, damn, bro, he made you quickly still hurt. His damn elbow is blah, blah, blah. Here go a second round, a first round pick. And that's an easy flip right there. Interesting trend going on here, because like you said, Simon's shotmaker,

a very, very good shooter that in different contexts can probably be an elite shooter if he's shot died is deployed in certain ways never developed defensively at all not above average of a passer probably a little bit below average

especially if he's going to be tasked with like lead playmaking similar player to all those descriptions but I think better than him Jordan Poole also got traded damn! The New Orleans Pelicans are trading CJ McCollum Kelly Olinick and a feature second round pick

to the Washington Wizards for Jordan Poole, Sadeek Bay and number 40 once again, extremely surprising trade I did not expect to see. I did not expect the wizards to be trade in jordan pool period and if they were i was not expecting it for a package of veterans in c j mccall mckelly linnick i guess they're clearly on similar timing of the blazers where they want to be competent they want to be a good team they want to build

habits they want to put veterans around their important young players to you know allow the development to thrive in a competent scenario and i guess they didn't feel like jordan pool was part of that long-term plan he's not he's not and you you know that like you're going to be building a Ransar, Bub Carrington, Kulubali, Kishan George, all that. You have another top 10 pick this year. And so having Chris Middleton and having C.J. McCollum are the adults in the room. And that is going to be enough for some veteran leadership. And you know that the East is going to be trash.

If you can get a couple leaps from two of whoever is in your young core, get 50 games out of Chris Middleton and then maybe, you know, get some actual score from C.J. McCollum. Can this team be a playing team in the East? Half the Pelicans. Half the Pelicans. Half the Pelicans. Half the Wizards roster is not a lot of drink. They are from the Skibbity Toilet Generation, as much a 19 year olds. And then half of them is unction. They have straight old. It's such a disparity. It's crazy. C.J. McCollum, Chris Middleton, Marcus, Mark is Mark. Malcolm Brognan's in there? Malcolm Brogdon is in there? Malcolm Brogdon. Unks. Diplomatic basketball. And then we got a bunch of children on the other end

I guess that's probably like a good dynamic Probably for encouraging the young core to like You know not fall into bad habits of young teams that you see You get Charlotte Hornets basketball Which is a bunch of guys out there playing who killing basketball I guess that this is smart culture's culture wise But it's just weird right You don't often see this

Yeah this is this feels almost like a very lateral move I don't necessarily think there's a like straight up winner Because both of these teams are obviously like In their gutter in the gutter in their own right for whatever reason it is. For the wizard's cool, you get another bed in the room and also I guess

it's worth mentioning Cid McCollum's contract expires at the end of the next season, 2026, so they do have all that cast space for fucking what? I don't know, but Caspaces is available. Yeah, Shams reported

that they can clear up to $100 million in Catspace in 2026. And that was one of his leading responses after the report. So I'm assuming that's the wizard's main motivation is to free up Capspace for 20206 and, you know, maintain that flexibility. Okay.

sure yeah like so somebody's going to be upset somebody's going to be available and this this is really why i guess you try and see if you can go be competitive see if you can if you if you have something because the east we can't overstate how bad the east is going to be next year and so if Washington comes out and what they get to like 34 and 48 depending on the leap uh that's that's a in the east. Yeah. For the Pelicans, I like it.

I still like Jordan Poole. You know, I mentioned, I kind of compared him with Anthony Simons that this is two teams in the span of 24 hours that are kind of punting

on a young guard who has tantalizing off the dribble shooting and a little bit of slashing, but isn't a strong defender, isn't a strong passer. I feel like Jordan Poole is substantially better

than Simons right now, at least last year. I like what he did a lot in the wizard's uniform. I guess the Wizards did not like it a lot or at least didn't view it as a long-term importance, but I don't mind that

as the new, younger version of the dynamic you kind of wandered from C.J. McCollum as like a shooter can create a little bit. They're going to have Zion. They're going to have Trim Murphy, be their main two creators. I don't mind Jordan Poole being the third head of the snake there. Yeah, I agree. He commands a certain level of attention on offense that not a lot of guards do in terms of his playmaking and how he's able to get his bag off, get his bag off. And then also at times to the range of which type of shots, the audacity of the type of shops that he takes to. Not all of players do that. So it's a different type of level of explosion and offense compared to someone like

Cedrican who's more in between yeah and they have enough defenders to kind of like make up for whatever he's losing but I don't know it's just a weird trade I think for both teams yeah fact yeah it is the same that the rats got the Wi-Fi yeah it's hard for me to see it is not lagging on what I see so I don't even know what if the rats got their Wi-Fi instead oh yeah so I think it's a solid I don't know B-minus trade for both teams damn i don't i don't hate it i i'm very big obviously on on culture and being able to to step up and not not create like a losing culture and with washington they've just they've done that for so long so getting competent players in the building that's that's perfectly fine

apparently it's still lagging yeah i don't know it looks normal on our end so i can't even tell and i know it's nice uh i record this locally so the people that are watching on spotify don't see the lag so it's only the live audience that apparently she's the lag sorry All the main audience sees it. Back to other off-season news, I hope it's done lagging. This is a strange, strange statement, a strange headline. This is very stupid. But Nuggets owner, Josh Kronky, completely unprompted,

just brought up the possibility of trade Nicola Yolkich. This happened a little bit ago. And I don't know what to think about this, because this conversation was him talking about the place the team is in and the perils of the second apron and how they had to move with caution. they understand the play strength as a team and he hypothetically threw out

that if a certain world happens where they have the wrong injuries and they don't have the best outlook long term maybe you gotta consider something crazy like trading number 15 so he didn't say it like we're thinking about that but he threw that out there in a way nobody told him he had to and it was just like okay yeah

well maybe my dog's gonna die that's a possibility I'm not gonna say it I mean it's basically the same thing was going on in Milwaukee right now like with Janus of course the GM or the owner didn't come out there and said, oh, yeah, we got to trade, like, things just played out for themselves. Obviously, like, if you're just like that was to happen, maybe it's in play for the Denver

Nuggets, but it makes him, it makes it feel like he knows something is up the horizon. He thinks that, I don't know, Jamal Murray's hamstrings might be jelly soon and the rest of this team, to be honest as well, because Jamal Murray, you're always going to have to worry about him when it comes to injuries. Aaron Gordon just pulled his hamstring, and then Michael Porter Jr. had severe shoulder issues in the playoffs as well. So a lot of their guys in the starting lineup, which is what all they have, they're just complete due to garbage.

It's not looking too bright, but it feels like he's just kind of over this era. And he's very, very much wanting to avoid the second he puts off. It's your job to listen to every single offer that anybody brings you. It is also your job to hang up on people who have ridiculous offers. And I don't care what. the situation is unless Nikola Yokic says trade me i'm not playing another game it you should never verbalize like we are going to trade yokic what if he's just like preparing teams telling teams to like stuck up your assets i got something for you potentially no but like it's it's just it's just

weird right yeah that's all it is yeah he's not telling anybody anything i don't think it's like so i think it's like a fordian slip almost like he's just saying like you never know what could happened the worst case scenario was in play so and so like he's just talking and I don't feel like it means anything but Freudian slips happened because it's in the back of your head and you know like the conversations have been had you don't he didn't

think about that out of nowhere so I wonder if like they really don't have no good press conference etiquette at all because remember like their Calvin Booth was like oh yeah blah blah Zip Naji and wasting money yeah so yeah I wonder but only only take away from this is I wonder if these are conversations that were had

and that's like interesting you guys are talking about possibilities and that's one that's floated stuff like that isn't floated for no reason but outside of that like noticing I think it's just like a weird slip up that doesn't mean much something else in this conversation

in the same as that press conference too was said is that he mentioned how like they're getting ready and they want to prepare to offer Nicole Yokut to a contract extension this summer and he said in the same breath we don't know if he's going to take it he did say that offer yeah and it's like

brother who was asking you if he's going to take it or not who no one is you don't have to save this information he said we're prepared to offer that don't know if he's in take it's up to him so that could mean two things that can mean I don't know he's kind of giving indications maybe he's gonna take his time or he's trying to just like be safe and get ahead of it and just

like you know just throw it out there like if it's not signed it's not on us like because they haven't had the conversation at all overall just weird right he's like he's it's just it's big noticing it's it's something where you don't think that Yokic is

is that kind of player where he's going to like sit out or not or not play it really is just like if you are going to offer yokech hundreds of millions of dollars he's going to sign he's going to show up he's going to play basketball and that's going to be that and i think that yeah i i just i think that like denver has some real real soul searching to do because obviously like this next error is here you hired a new coach you hired a new gm you have to figure out what you want this team to look like Yokin should be at the middle of that and is there a world where he's not

that's what it's making it seem like and if I was a nugget fan I wouldn't be mad I wouldn't even be scared I think I would just be annoyed because it's like damn man like can we get anything right can anything just be smooth for another summer and can we get back to whatever we were in 23 I think their new GM is probably like fuck get off of the TV like stop talking like it's just the owner that's just like putting his foot

in his mouth it doesn't mean anything they're obviously not going to trade him it's just like bro stop speaking right now yeah next new story the lakers warriors spurs and pelicans are among teams interested in christoph's porzingis why interesting obviously you know pelicans i think that's like we floated out the pelicans and magic as teams like they've been eating stretch fives maybe they can sell themselves on that the other three teams here are quite interesting if this is true and these three teams are making calls and at least like having loose interest, I think it is worth talking about why all three them would be interested because that is a surprising group of teams.

It is. Let's talk about the Lakers first. You want to see Luca and KP again mend their relationship? Yes. I would be okay with it from a basketball perspective. When KP's talked about it, he's talked about it very openly and he was like, yeah, I could have done a much better job of just accepting my role. And there were times where-

It's like talking about your ex, coming back with her. he does sound like he learned a lot from that experience yeah and he was like there were times where I actively did things to to hurt the team even though that I know that I probably should have you know accepted my role a little bit better being like going through that experience once

and then winning a championship with Boston and now coming back if he did play with the Lakers it would be I think a better situation than what they had in Dallas yeah but the Christophsvarez of it all is a worse situation as for his body he's not quite what he was at that time Yeah, if we're just going team by team

Because I don't think anybody should trade for for Christops But somebody will And no, I wouldn't say that You could trade for Christops at the price is right I don't think a team like what does he have? Yeah, what do you mean? Like what's he sick with? Oh

What does he have? Nobody knows and like the I don't know That's a long-term issue, is it? Yeah, I don't know But I do think teams should definitely be interested in Chris Austin for the unions But I think it should be teams that have space for error Like if he doesn't work out, who gives a fuck?

The Lakers in my mind, as long as Luke Dodgers is on your roster, every single year is a championship. I think you can get him for damn near free. I feel like if he's going to be a salary dump for similar situation, Drew Holiday, but like probably even less value, just because it's so unreliable. Like for the Lakers, I don't remember what Chris House makes exactly, I'll check. But if it's just like the salary of Gabe Vincent, Maxi Kleba and whoever else needed, like it's just like guys and no like important picks, I guess I could sell myself on that

as long as it's accompanied by other bigs that are reliable. if that's the price for all these teams I guess there's a world where you can roll the dice and say if we can load manage him and get him healthy there's like value to having that five out look bring him off the bench

make him a six man now even if that's something he'd accept like there's a world where that could make sense I don't know if it's a Lakers like you said they don't have a marching for air but it's interesting I think for good teams if the price is right I think I'd be okay with like 85%

of the league being traded to a certain situation I just don't know if If you can, I don't know if dealing with the day-to-day lack of availability for KP is going to be worth it for a Lakers team that has LeBron at 41, that has Luca trying to, you know, refine his MVP form and all that. I feel like it is very, very up and down and it's going to get annoying at a certain point. Now, Golden State, I think it makes more sense for them because I do think that they're a little bit more desperate. than the Lakers to be a championship contender, to stay in the mix. You think the Warriors are more desperate.

I believe the Lakers are probably the most desperate team in the NBA this all season. I'm saying that just because the Lakers have a longer window because Luke is there. And Luke, if you are, come on, if you are starting a team right now, like who has the... No, no, no, no.

You're misunderstanding me. They have to prove to Luca to stay, like immediately. Luke is not under contract for that long. They are extremely desperate. He's going to stay. I don't know. I mean,

I don't know if it was a given. I mean, I obviously want to believe, choose to believe, will believe he's going to stay. But I believe that because I think they're going to show him where he should stay and do the necessary things. But they have the desperation. They need to prove it to him. The Warriors have, all of their guys are maddled. And that's what I'm saying is like if you're trying to win a chip or grasp at whatever last chance at contention, the Warriors are that team where if you are the Lakers and you are assuming that you can do everything to. to keep Luca, then you have at least another five years

to continue building stuff around him where Golden State has, what, one run left? Like, Steph couldn't make it through this entire playoff run. He got hurt. We've seen that over the last couple of years. He's starting to, you know, to break down. You know, Draymond is getting older Jimmy Butler, fell, hurt his butt, and now, like, he was out.

So you are adding all of this advanced age. If you want to go all in on a team like that, fine, I can get it. and you try to get one more run, but they have very little mechanisms in terms of getting better and being a championship team. What do you think about the Spurs is being on this list?

I think the Spurs are one of those teams where they have plenty of room for error because of where they are at timeline-wise. And having a back court of or front court of KP and Wembe is insane. But also I don't want to sell myself on it too hard because more times than not over the last like two, three years Prisangis has been a disappointment.

He can just give you juice, like, in sports at this moment and time of this career. So, I don't know, I like it the best out of the three hours. I think it would be cool as fuck. We would have Wemby as your stretch five on the bench. I mean, he's starting. He goes to the bench. KP's your stretch five now. You run out both at one time, have two gigantic players I guess you, three, like.

Two of the biggest motherfuckers in the league. That's so cool. I just like for, like, a team-building perspective and, like, the unique advantage that could be. If they have two of the biggest stretch fives ever, actually the two biggest stretch fives in Maybe history, I think. Yeah. And you also have multiple dynamic guards who can slash in Fox Castle and presumably Dylan Harper.

Like, that's a unique, interesting combination of talent that we've literally never seen. Yeah. I just, I need to know the price. We've seen, we saw 42 games of Porzing his last year, 57 the year before. If he's not, if he's not there and you give up something fairly substantial, then. I think we can assume it won't be substantial. Yeah. Okay.

I think we're going to, he's an expiring too. I think we can assume he'd be pretty, pretty easy to get. Yeah, I'll pull the contract up. Okay. Next report. He's making 30. Let's talk about the defending champions. For how many years?

I think he's expiring this year. He's aspiring in the, he's free age of 20, 26, so yeah. The OKC Thunder are reportedly trying to move into the top 10 in the draft. They hold picks 15, 24, and 44. Who do you want to see them move up for? Man, this is the greed they talk about in the Bible. I don't even know if it's greed. I feel like if I'm the.

rappers a nine and they offer me 15, 24 and 44? I'm like, hell yeah, why not? It's a good deal. It's still greedy as hell. You just won the title. I think it's greedier to add three rookies and be like trying to go to the Apple. Like, how many players you need? Look, they could do that and just have, like I said, bites at the Apple.

Smart though. If they identify one guy that they're like, we only need so many rookies. We have to keep getting more because our team's going to get expensive. We're going to need to replenish these debt pieces over and over. But if they're like, listen, we see Carter Bryant, we see the next guy in our rotation. We see Mali Wash, we think he'll be the long-term backup five. Like, interesting. I think this is the, yeah, this is the best way to cycle through picks as a super successful thing.

You're the kings of the NBA over the past year. It's assumed that you will be over the next few years. It's the best way to cycle through picks. They have too many picks. They can't insert literally all these players. So I think this is very smart, very smart. And they're a, although they're a championship team, they have very clear flaws and holes in their roster and this is a good opportunity to

try to either make your strength even stronger or cover up some of the holes on this team. What do you think is like the guy Sam Presby's looking at number nine? Assuming that saves the Raptors for thought experiment's sake and that range like who screams Sam Presti player? At number nine.

Okay, obviously like if Malawatch falls I think he's an easy grab. I think he's an easy grab because Isaiah Hardinstein, I don't know how long he's going to be here on this team. Generally, you don't know how long he's gonna be on this team yeah he has a he his deal it's a three year in the last year the team option so like they have they have the ability to move to move off of him after next year if malo watch falls to okay see i'm with you yo you sign you signed him yeah or you

draft him and you keep it moving because him next to him and chat that's disgusting concanip also is would be super interesting on there he's not he's not he's not making it's a nine i don't know if he will fall you never know at he is not there you never know people will people fall all the time. Yeah, you're right. You never know, but I wouldn't bet that. I don't think so. Yeah.

I think Asengue or Senge could make sense. He likes those athletic players. Another Uzman-Dang type of. Yeah, yeah, exactly what I was thinking about. Another Uzman-Dang. There's a few Uzman-Dangs in that reign. It's like of those like big forwards that can do some things. Yeah, he's just been swinging so hard for these guys.

He wants to have his 6-9 Swiss R-A-Daf defender. He wants PJ Washington and Aaron Gordon really bad. If they don't end up moving, then I think they might end up settling for someone like what's his name again fuck I think I haven't written down Cedric Coward yeah super versatile guy and he fits like the mold of what OKC

okayC player should be he can make it even stronger so that's a possibility too yeah interesting interesting I hope they do that that would be also I want to see the Raptors get that deal that feels that'd be really good for them yeah one more piece of news that is interesting to say the least

I don't know what the takeaway from this if it's true but Kevin O'Connor has reported a sentence I don't often say The Cleveland Cavaliers offered Darius Garland In an attempt to get Kevin Durant The sons are certified dumbasses If they declined this if this is real So I think part of it maybe

So Kevin Durant played like a big hand And where he ended up Apparently he was denying trades left and right Telling everybody that he wasn't going to be able to play for them I wasn't going to stay with them Until the offer got low enough And then they got it done So maybe Kevin Rand was like

I'm not playing a few cavaliers Don't even think about it But interesting is true that they floated out So not surprising right That they maybe want to trade Darius Garland and break up some of this core, baffling that they would do that for Kevin Durant. Is it really baffling? I think so.

I don't think it is. Okay. Because I think if you have a roster of DeMitch, of DeMitch, Katie, Mobley, Jared Allen, you can talk yourself into that, I think a little bit more than Garland and DeMitch just because you're adding some size. And you can say DeMitch, handle more of the playmaking. and we're going to have somebody who does it, who makes it so that you don't have to score 48, 50 points

in a playoff game for us to win if Mowbly is out or if the lights are too bright for Allen, whatever. Yeah. Like that, that feels a little bit better than, or you could just insert whatever point guard you have, right? I like them getting Kevin Durant. I think if I'm getting Kevin Durant,

I absolutely need to keep Darius Garland and have a point guard for that team. Dude, the bad habits and offense led by Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland with no point guard would fall into in playoff games would be appalling. That would be some nasty half-word offense at times. Yeah, I agree. If they traded like a Jared Allen package to get Kevin Durant,

that I'd be all over that. That'd make sense to me. But it's a big, I mean, they could also, on top of that, if they really wanted to be creative, they would deconstruct, retool this team and move off of someone like Jared Allen. Should they do that? I don't know, but he definitely doesn't deserve to be off of the table

in any discussion. But that's a complete retool in general. But I think you put someone like Katie into the building. that means that also on top of you, you not only relieve Donald and Mitchell from his scoring responsibilities and duties, but also the same thing for Evan Moby. You don't have super high expectations

than him being like a 25-point per game score or anything like for a just like that. So I like it. It gives them so much, a much higher upside defensively in a different way. Back then, last year and over the last few years, their defense in the paint is so imposing.

But on the perimeter is where you start to have like a few questions. So I would have loved it. And also, I don't care what Kevin Durant says. If the sons or if the calves, knowing that KD was like, I'm not going to play for you and they still offer Darius Garland, you take that deal and you say, well, not my problem. We're going to take Darius Garland and we're going to keep moving forward. And you just push it from that point.

Like I don't, we've seen, we've seen plenty of times. We've seen sometimes where teams work with. with their stars and get the best package or you see what we saw here where we just laughed at the suns for that entire package because we like, I know you're 37 but you did

not get enough. I have new news for you, Donovan. What's news? The Atlanta Hawks have emerged as a trade suitor for Kevin Durant per the Stein line. Wait for Chris Oswis. Yes, that's Kevin Durant, my bad. For Christos Porzingis, the Atlanta Hawks have emerged as a serious trade suitor. Sir.

Into resting. sir who is per jake fisher and mark stein no mark steyn what the fuck is that that was an insane sound all right i thought it came from jake fisher to so i'll like jac mr mark stein mark stine all right he got it we have a new gm today i was just earlier today off camera i saw and i was watching our new gm's first press conference and he was talking about how he was enamored with size literally yep and chrysosos is literally the biggest dude available in the market so it makes sense as to why he would want this to happen. He also said how he also talked about how he wanted to empower

a Yaka Kangu more. And if there's any big who can help with some of the things that he struggles with outside of boards because Prasincus ain't doing that too. Przingis feels like a good partner or at least a good shift in different dynamic offensive before this. So what are you giving up to get KP in this situation? Salary filler. Trey man.

Oh, we also have a trade exception as well for worth like $25 million. Can you aggregate trade exceptions? I don't think you can. But regardless, this is a weird fit. So if they did this, I'm guessing they would make K.P. A corner sitter, a space in the floor, and O'Neika is going to be the role man for their base packages with Trey Young and Halfport?

Sure. Big spacer. He can be a catch-and-shoot threat. I don't know. This completely, like, that completely abuses the idea of Jellon Johnson as well, doesn't it? I don't think so. Jeline Johnson, the three, I guess. So you'd have, you'd be a big, lengthy team like they want to be.

For Risha Shea, or Dyson, Daniels, actually, no thing. You don't want to bench Risha Shay. Yeah, Rishasei has to start in my mind, just for development. So maybe they bring KP off the bench or Onyaka off the bench. But I think they probably, after what they saw last year, we want to keep starting on Yucca, and we know they want a lot right next to Tray Young. Kishawls, Chris Osversing says, not that. Yeah.

It's just a weird bit. I think those two basically play together and separately, which, you know, they could use another big to give that. I'm always a fan of versatile backcourt pairings like that. mean front court strange just strange I had to sit with this this would be a weird move

that I don't think is crazy but I wouldn't love that for the Hawks yeah I'm just really more so worried about what we would give up I know Train Man would beat the fuck up out of here

he makes like 15 million dollars not because he's a bad player yeah kind of is but I'm glad you see the vision now there's not that much this trade doesn't move me for real it helps we're a decent team but it doesn't move me necessarily

Karas Lever Terrence Man and Kobe Buffkin. That could have get it done salary-wise. Because Carislevert makes $60 million, Terrence Man 11, Kobe Buffkin 4. That gets you to 30. Man, Boston's kids look so different, man. Yeah. I

could go with that idea. I'm going to miss Carouselvert because he, outside of Tray Young, or actually, no, outside of fucking... Oh, sorry. Sorry, Carislevert's a free agent now. My bad. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, so no. So, Terrence Man is actually making $15 million. now.

Yeah. So to get the other 15 million on Yucca Ocongongu makes $15 million. No, there's zero chance that'll happen. I agree. But other than that, Risha Shay makes 13. You pull this up. Our GM is way too, is way too smart for that. I think we pulled this up on the big screens you guys and see.

We got to be able to trade that trade. I don't know if it's feasible or possible, what the rules are. I'm not a cap guide. But that trade session might be involved in this if that's the case. Yeah, because they're salaries. Like, listen, 25, 26. And Yucca's at 15? Terers Man's at 15.

I guess you're not trained Dyson Daniels so they could pick up So they could do George Nying at 8 That's 23 Okay yeah they could probably do George Nying Terrence Mann And Buffkin that gets you close enough You can bring it a little bit more than you send out Your mind okay

Yeah those are nothing burgers in my mind Yeah I didn't see George's Nying at 7 I mean at 8 So that's what it would be Okay Yeah if that's the package then sure It just adds more versatility to this team The last time we had a stretch big We haven't had a stretch big at all

Any big who can shoot outside of I guess you can say George's Nying but for being for real here since like Al Horford and Paul Millsap. Hella long ago. So it makes us better in the short term. What are the, what are the salt is cooking? It was also reported today at their

that teams are calling about Jaylon Brown. Are they gonna tank, tank? And like, you know what they're picking? Yeah. They're gonna tank, try to get like the number one pick? Yeah. What do you have left though if you do that? You, I assume they keep Derek White.

So you have, Tatum comes back the following year. You have the number one pick, Derek White and Tatum. And a slew of cap space, I guess they would just like completely read do the team in the following summer? The only way they decide to trade Jalen Brown is if some team in the gutter is so desperate

and they slut themselves out. Like, can you, like, they slug this out in terms of every asset possible. Picksops on pick swaps, assets on assets. All right, well, he's not, he's not honest. That's the only thing that'll move my, that'll work for me if I'm someone like. Number two pick?

Should the Spurs trade Jalen Brown, number two pick? Nah, no, no, no, no, no. Apparently, Legion Hoops has been told the Celtics are seriously. Considering Jay and Roops. Legion Hoops has his ear to the pulse and he's been told that she's he considering it. Would it be a stunner? It would be crazy if they traded Jay and Brown just because I do think that whenever Tatum comes back,

you would like to have some continuity. But also, you saw, you saw Jayden Brown last year with the knee injury. It wasn't amazing. As the salary cap gets bigger, the number's not going to look as bad. But still, you're going to be paying Jaylon. Brown some massive money in a couple of years. And so by the time Tatum comes back, do you really want to bet on that? Or do you just want to have Tatum and Derek White and Al Horpher as an assistant coach?

What's up? What if? What if the Spurs take Dylan Harper, point guard the future and they trade Darren Fox or Jaylon Brown, Deer and Fox 14 and some other stuff to make the value work to the Celtics? If I was Deer and Fox, I'm punching somebody. Yeah, I'm pissed He was so happy to be back at home With his family

His girl's family too and all that Just man I don't think it's gonna happen I wouldn't necessarily be I would want to pair Deer and Fox With Jalen Brown if I'm the Spurs I want to have a big three For the 12

Wimby's cheap But like I'm just trying to think about why Because you know people I've been linking the Jaylon Brown thing to the Spurs I'm trying to think about how and why they would do that And that's like the only pathway

That makes like a little bit of sense Even though I still wouldn't like that What if the teams The Memphis Grizzly Like the Grizzies What if they're just like I love that They want to stockpile so many assets that you can't find a better guy

at his position specifically for the grisies. They've been struggling, fighting for their lives over the last few years. Jamie Brown is a guy who's obviously proven to show up in the playoffs. Great defender when he wants to be great finisher, great decent shooter. In my mind, it makes sense. And they have so many picks to do that for as well. Makes sense. I would do it if I was in.

Yeah, I think that would make sense a lot for the Grizzlies. Honestly, Jaylon Brown's top of a player that fits almost fucking anyway. Jaylen Brack, no would be cool. This would be hard to make sense because they don't have assets like that that probably interests of Celtics. If we could somehow get him to the Nuggets, Michael Porter Jr.'s values in the gutter,

so they can't do that. I don't think because it would take a three-team trade where somebody has to want to give up picks for Michael Porter Jr., which is not happening. But if they could somehow, some way, make that happen. He would eat alongside yoke's like crazy. That's the type of playmaker Jalen Brown needs to be with.

That's how we get Jailen Brown until the Hall of Fame. He would be so crazy. We're going to talk about it was a top-10 shooting guard ever that would be perfect jeez but yeah something to monitor apparently jaylin brown thing is in the air okay some draft news to get to uh ace bailey stock has been plummeting if you guys been looking he is refusing to do workouts for most teams and it has been reported that the sixers will not be drafting him and he's really trying to angle his way to get drafted to somebody we don't

know who but it's not somebody in the top three or four it seems like curious where do you think you're trying to go it sounds like he wants to have uh he wants to be in a situation where it's his time to shine he wants to be in the best position for him to thrive as a player so teams with literally no identity and teams that are just throwing shit at the wall i'm thinking about i don't know the brooklyn nets immediately when it comes to mind they're one of the only teams who are just like lingering in the NBA trying to find and stick to some sort of identity i would love him to go to the wizards wizards are also a really good team too i like and he fits a lot really well over there now i think about

two because of their lack of offense and they already have their defense of identity set behind all the guys that they have yeah i don't listen i have no idea where he wants to go but shout out to him like if you if you can try and control where where you're gonna go i'm actually kind of for that why i think that's terrible i think his i think that's terrible thing to set up for your well i've i've kind of i'm i don't know i feel kind of bad for for ace like why just what does that mean why why you put that for him because they'd be dogging her I've heard guy he loves the buckets he loves a mid-range jumper he loves it especially but doesn't go in a lot see and this is why like he's a he's a talented he's he's a talented player and I just think that

like people at this point yes there is that aspect of his game but like people the way that people are talking about is like oh he can he can never do this he can never do that like he's he's not going to be a winner at all it's like he's like 19 and a very like talented athletic player get him in the building and see what happens. Like, I don't know. So if he feels like there's a certain spot where he wants to go and that will be better for his career, I'm more power to you for doing that. I really want him to go to Sixers because I really want him.

I also agree he has potential, obviously. I just really hope he's in a place where they can like start him as a role player and channel him slowly into doing these things the right way. And, you know, everybody reads as he leaves and like assumes what he wants via this whole thing and everyone assumes he wants to go to a team where he can just get the usage and be a star right away. I very much wish the opposite because I think he could be good but I think he could be like a super role player to start and then obviously if things go well continue to build on that. But I think his skill set as a 3 and D guy that can do a little bit, attack and close

outs, can run some do some stuff with the bench units and like pick and choose his spots but be able to contribute next to stars. That's my vision for him. But I feel like that it's not his vision for himself. Either way, like if he goes to Philly, he's going to get the usage. This is just like such a one way, like, level of thinking when it comes to what type of player he wants to be in his career. Sure. Like, you can get into the Brooklyn Nets or the Wizards and have all the opportunity in the world to be the number one option.

But is that best for you in your skill set? Do you want to have, like, a six-year NBA career on average, maybe four-year NBA career? You get a season where you average, like, 18, 17 points per game, and you flame out? Or do you want to be a player who sticks around the league for 12, 15 years and you collect your bag through, of course, naturally the longevity that you've been in the league and have a respectable reputation. I think it's reckless by his agent.

I don't, it's not reckless. He's represented by the same guy that represented Sharif Cooper and Sharif Cooper famously alienated a lot of teams to try to navigate where he wanted to go and he went in the second round and never got a chance in the NBA for real. So people are reading the tea leaves

and being like, somebody needs to tell the guy to relax because this is second time someone of the client of his did something like this. I'm not necessarily saying whether or not it is that, but that's why people are reaction in a certain way.

I am. This is the best decision makers in the world in terms of basketball. Whatever they say and whatever they kind of want to lead you to be, they're probably right. Who? The entire. He's saying how GMs view you. If GMs are viewing me as a guy, should, should this, you'd be the how the player you are.

I'm good. That is, that's massive glaze. I think I'm the smartest guys in the world. Goat glaze in the NBA, dumbass. No, no, it is, it is massive glaze because it's like, NBA GM's, up all the time. Yeah.

You know, like, if they truly knew what was happening, every time that we do a redraft, the redraft would look the exact same. They would know when the best players are, are, and when to take them and do, and do all of that. Like, they make mistakes all the time. Nobody's saying they're perfect. That's not the argument. The argument isn't they're infallible.

It's that if everybody is telling you something, listen. Like, it's like, if the league is saying something, listen, like, it's, no course, it's not going to be 100% accurate. That is not the point at all. It's like, no one's saying that you are a shooter. You will say it. like they're not no one thinks that he will only be that as a six or maybe we're for like first year two years no man don't put your limitations on me like i i i think it i think it's

i think it's okay for for ace baby to try and and and and either like put immense faith and slash pressure on himself to go wherever he wants and then now it really is on you and i think that if you feel that way and you said i just want the opportunity i know that whatever happens after this, it's going to be on me because I kind of dictated the situation. That's cool and that's, that's fine. I, I just think that it doesn't make sense because it's like, bro, like how much opportunity do you think you're going to get in Philly? How many years you think he's going to get a lot.

Exactly. I know. That's all my. You should be more than willing and you shouldn't want it to go ahead and decline opportunities when it comes to working out with the Sixers. Like, Joel and beat. Oh, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, what happened, whatever, whatever, whatever.

Sean Sharania happened. Wait, chat. What's going on, man. Don't look at your phone. Let me show you first. I don't see anything. Atlanta and Brooklyn are finalizing a three-team trade that has Chris Huss-Fruzingis

and a second-round pick to the Hawks. Terrence Mann and Atlanta's number 22 pick to the Nets, Georges D. Yang, and a second rounder to the Celtics. They traded Chris Oswis for George's Diang in a second. Like we said, salary dump. You guys traded your first round pick and then the exact package we talked about

for Chris House Svigis. Woo, man. First round pick? Yep, the pick 22. No one gives a fuck about that pick 22. I'm not going to lie. We keep our 13th overall pick. George Nying, shout out to you.

We just appreciate the glazing that you've done for someone like Jalen Johnson and Mo Gay, giving our guys more shine. I like this a lot. This is basically not. I love when this happens. I love this. This rarely happens.

We got a live reaction. Interesting. Okay, so the Celtics are blowing it up. The Celtics are tanking, right? This is two trades in a row where they add players who are not as conducive to winning basketball, period. This one, obviously that.

Anthony Simons, that's an opinion. But I think we, knowing what the Celtics value from their guards, this is a player who is not the same mold. And now they're getting George St. Nying in a second, a straight-up salary done for Crystal Sprozingis. They're bottoming out. I don't know. Jaylon Brown's safe.

He might not be, but I don't know. This, I'm still not shocked yet. We, we kind of expected Drew Holliday and Christop's Prisenghis both to be gone. Yeah. And now, now they're gone. But they're gone for nothing. They're not gone for retooling. They're gone for dumps.

this they have new but this is kind of a also like a retool where all respect to to jalen brown and to derrick white i don't think that they're going to be leading them to some crazy you know some crazy wild um record and so you can go into next season the bad part is at the east is so bad that you still might look into some stuff but you can put yourself in a situation now where you still have decent players whenever Tatum comes back because it is kind of dangerous to do, like the Warriors did what they did because Clay was coming back and Steph was coming back.

You were getting two of those guys. If you trade away Jalen Brown and you are only getting back Jason Tatum, then it's a real like rebuild. And so if you want to be a little bit competitive whenever Tatum comes back, I don't think you trade Jalen Brown at this point. I think you've made your point, right?

You don't want to pay the tax. You've gotten the two most unreliable people on your starting five. out the team good you're done and now we can just keep moving and then you go and you flip simons you get some more assets for that and then you rebuild with those three guys i'm cool with that okay so let's wrap up the boston Celtic thing they trade drew holiday for anthony simons i think what you just said they're going to give him usage in the first half of the season flip him at the deadline get i'm sure they can get a first time pick for him if they can get some good usage out of him

and help him put up numbers that convinces a young team out there that he can be a guard to help them Phoenix Sun's been a trade for every something like that that's a good move we like that trade to get rid of Drew Holliday's contract who has multiple years left on his deal that was a just straight up

you have long term money you no longer pay this was an expiring contract after this coming year but it ducks them even farther at the tax so they're not going to be paying tax whatsoever anymore because Christops is gone and this to me screams

we want to be bad right so everything you're saying makes sense they're gonna hopefully keep Jim Brown hopefully keep Derek White hopefully get Tatum back the following year have those guys your core three players and all the cast face in the world to maneuver without being the second apron and reload.

Fine. We understand. We'll see what comes next. Atlanta Hawksmo, how do you feel about this for them? Are you a better team now that you have Chris Osperzingus? I think we're absolutely a better team. When it comes to having,

also this also means click and plus the fuck up out of here. We have a replacement center. He's a leger. Sadly. Congratulations. I'm praying for you, brother. But I think this is an amazing trade for us because, again, I said earlier that our GM right now

he realizes that this team needs any, for us to have any type of success in the postseason specifically, we need size, immense size, and we've got the biggest guy available in the market for fucking pennies. George Nying, see ya, that 22 pick will probably mean nothing for us for a team that's trying to compete as soon as possible, considering our star point guard is headed towards the age 30. It's not 30 yet, but he's getting up there a little bit. And so I like this overall.

On the court-wise, it makes sense. I think, now that I, like, thought about it more, presences 100% coming off the bench. And there's definitely so many times. The Hawks, fun fact, I think I learned this the other day. The Hawks, when it comes to, in terms of generating quality looks, they led the league at that. But when it comes to finishing plays, we're the worst at that.

And you take quality looks, that's a mixture of open threes and shots at the room. Exactly. Exactly. And basically that just means that we have no play finishers. We have no gunners. We have no bucket getters in the simplest terms. And Prozingis at his best is that. So I like it.

The Nets now have in this, in this draft, 8, 19, 22, 26, and 27. Damn. 18, 22, 26, and 27. This is a deep class of role players, for sure. Like, those 20s picks are, this is a strong class or having a lot of picks in the 20s, I think.

And eight. Five first strong picks in this draft. Yeah. They should trade back from eight, low key, and just have a bunch of those. Because eight and 15, this draft is one of those ones where the top end, strong but then you get to like six through 15 is real flat so remember we talked about the okay

c thunder and wanting to trade up they have 15 24 and 44 what if the what if that's the net's hear that and they're like listen we might have 12 picks in this draft dude that's tough we might have 11 picks of this draft 8 for 15 for yeah what the done that 15 24 yes yeah I would think about it actually maybe I wouldn't because they already have four you don't need seven picks in a draft that's too much yeah so maybe it's not I mean the nets don't have any money. They need a young core. They need a deep young core.

And even without doing that funny hypothetical, 8, 22, and what else you say? 27 and 28? Yeah. 8. 819, 22, 26, and 27. Three top 22 picks. That's a good way to restart your own core.

And they still have Cam Johnson too who they're 100% going to ship as well. They can trade him for another top 10 pick. Man. I'm moved. Listen, the nets, the whole thing is they blew it up last year and didn't go all the way. They didn't tank all the way and get it. have a top five pick that was disappointing we wanted to see them get in the sweepstakes maybe get cooper flag maybe get don't harper whatever now that i'm seeing all this come together it would be nice

to have one of those guys this is a lot of bites at the apple this is like an NFL draft strategy where you're just like these picks i have a certain percentage chance of being a starter for us we got get as many as possible and have as many bites at the apple you don't see a lot of NBA teams do that i do like the idea though are they it's the draft listen the draft is tomorrow night we have 24 hours are the nets cooking and do they try to cut that down and maybe take do you think three and trade for somebody oh trade yes either either trade up or like trade for somebody in general is there like a disgruntal star in the league right now who we may not see coming who just wants to who we just may want to hit the reset bun what if they end up trading

for someone now don't mind hold on they can try claxon and cam johnson and get like three more picks tonight they can have a lot of ammo she now granted if they do that they have no talent left to do anything with if you get a star but they could trade up in the draft like if you're looking at a team like the spurs right too and they say listen we love dylan harper but we have daren fox we don't need dylan harper you want to give us all the picks in the world and we can have a ton of depth around our guys i see a vision you make you make listen you make all the moves and you call them walking you call their bluff and you say i'll give you 10 first on picks right now say you won't what if the memphis are just like yeah we're doing with the john moraine

experience and the Memphis Brooklyn Nets were just like, here are all these picks and whatever side we can match. Then you have, I like that actually a lot. I love that a lot. The Nets are cooking, man. There's so many possibilities. That's really interesting thing. That's the thing. They have so many possibilities. They have so much flexibility

now that it seemed like when the season ended, it seemed like they had a disappointing season because their draft outlook wasn't anything crazy at the number eight pick post lottery. Now it seems like they have the most, I don't know, exciting optionality in the entire fucking league. Two years now

they are back to back just like restructuring their entire outlook of their organization. Started last year when the Rainley traded for or traded away McCau Bridges and got all their picks back and then now they're in a position to have all these like what four or five first round

picks in this year's draft last. They could keep Claxton and Cam Johnson and just like if they hit on somebody's picks. Cam would not have a good time with that man. I don't know. could just get decent surprisingly quick like that's a lot of opportunities to like that that's a type of draft that could turn your outlook of your young court round if you hit three of those fucking seven picks that's yeah good we said eight 19 22 27 28 26 and 27 27 27 25 five top 30 picks if you hit two and a half of them half of them hit one guy's

decent two are good that changes that look at your team yeah they don't they don't have the tray cam johnson i changed their mind man they're cooking i love what i love seeing these terrible teams do not terrible things man yeah all right let's talk more about the hawks in this you say you think kristos was thinking is coming off the bench easily 100% are you move now does let's say he's off the bench and you have this dynamic big man combo of one yaku kongu who is a mobile big who can roll and catch lobs be a perimeter oriented big that can switch on people block shots a little bit really be your main defensive guy and fits with tray as a lop dirt right kp is the opposite of all those things i said slow footage stretch the field stretch the court

get a different look out there. And you have Jalen Johnson in the middle. Great slasher. Versal defender can guard any three and four, switch on the fives, can really switch on the ones and twos and be fine. Very versatile defender. Dyson Daniels, D.P.O.I. Level defender. Trey Young leading it all offensively.

Is this the top four seed in the East? It feels like that. I mean, if everyone stays healthy, of course, that's the biggest caveat on these conversations. But, yeah, I love that because also, side note, too, he's an expiring contract within the next year, two years or whatever. And so this is just a fun-ass thought experiment.

We lose nothing from this draft class or from this trade because Georgineeing means, shout out to you again, means nothing to us. And this 22nd overall pick for the state that this team is currently at, it doesn't mean much for us as well. It's not changing our lives at all. So this is a massive win regards of what way you want to look at it because we get more talent into the space.

And on top of the talent, this is a talent who fits really well, along are core players. They should be fighting for a top five scene. That's easy the conversation. That should be the floor because it's going to be Cleveland, New York,

Milwaukee, Detroit, Orlando. So that's six. So six is minimum. There should be the first time in a long time that the Atlanta Hawks are not in the plane. I don't believe you. It can't happen. It's impossible.

They're destined. I can't. You said the first time in a long time, it's been so long then I'm like, I can't believe it. It's not possible. going to be the playing. Yeah, the playing is the Hawks invitational.

Yeah. I just, I do think, I like it. Also worried just because, again, Pozingis gets hurt a lot. Jim Johnson, he gets hurt a lot. Yeah. And we do have to see Trey Young. If you're going to, if you're going to do this, Trey, I need you to lock in. I do need you to get back to the version of Trey Young that we felt comfortable or at least the version that, you know, was leading a team to the conference finals.

That has to show up. Yeah. I mean, Natura, I think he'll be much better through a year of adjusting more into this new role and having an offense

that's empowering other players like Deson, Dyson and then on top of that, too, an underlying story that has brought, obviously, been more, has brought more into my intention

because of the Achilles ruptures that's been having between Tatum and Tyree Talibor and Damien Lurit is, Trey was legitimately dealing with a, sore calf throughout majority not majority i would say like 30 40% of the year and he would sit

out randomly throughout the year and i think he was genuinely laboring that injury and that's part of the reason why we necessary he necessarily didn't have a fantastic here well are we getting fake rumors right now stop looking at the chat they're just spamming shit you guys are idiots man but yeah overall i love i love this move for us i love it so much because it's low risk we gain we lose nothing. We lose nothing. Do you think there's a world in which Chris, in which Donyaka Kongu could be available? No. You think they're for sure committed to him? I think our, I mean, I don't want to say we're for sure committed to anybody because

anything can happen. Yeah. But I think right now we're super set on Kongu being our starter. We've not hold him over the last few years, but he really, really made him prove it to us that he deserved the starting spot over some Lake and Capella. So I think we're set, especially because our GM randomly unproptuously in his interview, just mentioned that yeah, we are locked in. This is going to be a big year for Okongwu. So he's super set on him in his potential. I love this.

Do you think there's any politics reason, though, whether I might have to start KP over him? You think KP's in an embrace a bench roll? Dude, he just got traded for Georgia's name. He said, Luke into the Kings as she hit the Lakers. If you're going to try to troll us, they can seem a little bit real, God damn it. But yeah, he should be homeless because look at what you

was traded for, brad. Look what you were traded for, brats. George is the yang in a second round pick. Exactly. Like, what are we talking about? What an interesting deal man i'm so excited to see how firepower we're also one of the most mid three point shooting teams in the league last year too and just buckets from across the area and also when it comes to getting defensive stops specifically like causing havoc defensively we don't we don't have no length on this court on this team at all big man linked at all we had clinkapela he's fucking old don't have that much mobility very limited chris talks can do so many things on the court

especially shot blocking and that's something we've been missing for a long as time you know I love. I can just, I just, I, I'm hearing you in this moment and I'm happy for you. I can so envision. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la. I can't so envision a world like six months from now and he's like, we got to trade for zingas. He's never available. You can't move anymore. I will never get to that point because he was basically for free. Yeah. Yeah, you can't be mad at. Exactly. That's the part you can be mad at. So if we're grading this, you got Chris House for free. He's expiring contract. You did trade pick 22. It doesn't move me at this point in time. We have pick 13. So that's why I don't

of a fuck. I would like multiple picks if I'm the hawks. So it's not nothing. I'm just saying it to say that. I'll give it a solid B minus B for the Hawks. I go B plus. Yeah, that's fair. Like it's nice to have this versatility now.

They have these multiple looks that can throw. Everyone says we like Trey with a lop threat. We've never seen him with this insane stretch big threat either. So maybe that could be a new thing we unlock and we feel differently about Trey after seeing him this new look. Yeah. I like that B minus. I'm going to combine this grade for the Celtics with the Drew Holiday trade and kind of like view

it as an amalgamation. Well, do you think it's an A? Do you think it's like this is this, this tear down and what they've gotten for these dumps is like the move? I think so. I think the fact that Drew had years left on his deal. Yeah. You gave him the extension and then shipped him away. I think you dies the major bullet from that perspective.

And then for KP, the last two years have just been so weird with his availability. And so you know Tatum's going to be hurt. I don't have to deal with two of these people being hurt, be in and out the lineup. So getting rid of both of them and just being out of the second apron, it's a massive, massive thing because it would be so frustrating if Tatum came back and you have no avenues to get better or to actually retool because of all these dumb rules.

So I like what they're doing now. I'm going to give the netting a. I think what we always say these teams that are like bad rebuilding you to do is take on bad contracts ad picks. It's the Sam Presti special. Somebody is a player they don't want. They need to have a three-team deal. They need to find somebody

that can take this guy on. Say, give me him now and give me a pick to take on. That's the playbook. That's exactly what every GM should be doing across the league. Terrence, man, is not so bad. He's like, you don't want him on your team

for $15 million years. It's a bit much, but he is fine. He's not taking your books. You're not prevented from doing anything. You get the 22 pick for free. A plus. You just slip into the deal and find the most value.

I agree. This is the best way to, after all of the carnage that their heart went through, was the year 2021 with the Kevin or anything happened, 2012. This is the best outlook and outcome that they could possibly have. I couldn't imagine

a better offseason for the Brooklyn Nets over the last two years at all. The Christophers Pursingus plus Drew Holiday Trade saved the Celtics $180 million in tax penalties. Remember, didn't they say that number again? 180 million dollars in tax penalties.

Their new owner is so, he went in that bitch and demanded Chris Tops and drew holiday to be traded, bro. He said, I ain't pay no attacks man yeah oh my god they did it that's amazing that's insane good for them yeah and they're now under the second apron too and the first i think as well damn that's huge and they just save their asses i fuck wow okay well listen for boston i like it for the nets i like it with the way that east for you guys i like it it it's kind of a triple win there we go shout out amazing trades everybody shout out

trade trade's breaking midstream is amazing and it's about your team happy and it's about your team and it's a good trade too yep i can't be mad okay man last thing we're going to do on the stream i told you guys on a community post to give us your best NBA offseason predictions and we're going to react to them on stream we are here now to react to your hottest offseason predictions we'll give you a w or an l depending on how good the prediction is

let's do it man okay first off coaster Flix 3-4-2 said, Yannis doesn't get traded and the rest of his prime is wasted in Milwaukee. Half and half? I don't think he gets traded this season, but if they flame out in the first round or if they, you know, are a playing team and don't make the playoffs and all that stuff happens, then I think that the following off season, he'll ask for a trade. But I don't think he's going to waste his entire prime in Milwaukee. Yeah, but I think the general point of him not getting trade this summer, despite everybody feeling like it's time, knowing it's time, expecting it to be time, and him just remaining loyal, probably a good prediction. We've heard literally nothing so far about him having any indication of leaving. Maybe they're playing it close to the chest, and he doesn't know either way.

But we know his natural instinct is to be loyal. He said time and time again, he wants to be loyal. He wants to give them every chance to allow him to be loyal. It feels like he's going to give him at least one more summer. He's a Hall of Fame pump faker, bro. Like, over the last two years, we saw him just, like, constantly just throw up. out the most heinous, random ass, like, aggressive request, saying, like, oh, y'all, I want to win. And then, like, here we go.

The Milwaukee books are at the worst state. That's impression. The last, like, three years of their, of the honest attention. And he's over here flexing his jersey in front of a random ass statue in Brazil. Yeah, so, listen, if he wants to be the team go out there for the rest of his career, good for him, I suppose. Who am I to judge? Okay. Next up, WTF Warren says, Miami's front office finally gets a spine and fires Pat Riley's old ass.

They trade for Devin Booker and a new era of heat basketball begins. It's a new era. It's a new day. Get over it. Woo! This is just not happening. What assets do? This is fan fiction.

This is fan fiction. Yeah, it's not. It's not going to die as the GM of the heat. Probably. He's there. No one's going to fire Pat Riley. That part, if Pat Riley leaves, Pat Riley chooses to leave.

He retires. He's not going anywhere by anybody's volition besides his own. yeah but this is this is the second straight off season where star has been available Miami has been on the list of destinations and they haven't been able to to get it done and it's like for for who yeah you you didn't get Kevin Orette because of Haywood highspin because of having a hot guess Nicole Yovich word okay doesn't feel like it's time but this is a good prediction it's hot we actually give us hot predictions stuff that is bold this is bold but is a W take I wish joel and Bede is

is traded in a league stunner to the Indiana Pacers from average production seven. This guy heard that Joel and B. Tyrese Halliborne talked about how he was texting Joel and beat it and Jolan was giving him tips and stuff like that. I like this conversation.

If this was supposed to happen, the Pacers would be fucking nasty. Oh my God. If Tyrese didn't tragically get hurt, then maybe I'd be on board. Now it doesn't make any sense. But that would be interesting if they said like, obviously,

the year is lost without Tyrese. If we're like, fuck it all, what do we got to lose? We know we always want to be good. We'll take the Jewel and beat bet. We'll take them off your hands. We'll give you assets, but nothing crazy. You sit both of them down for the whole year?

Just let him recover. Redshirt the year? Interesting. Man. This is another fan fiction, but it's a fun prediction to think about the idea. How would they get him? Just trade African for African.

Siakum, see you. It's not realistic at all. They're not going to show me. Yeah. It would just be interesting. Connor Games 649 says, the Grizzlies will use their assets to obtain a number two option above Jerry and Jackson,

in a fleece trade and become a top five team in the league um number two option above trip is so really hard and just really like uh jalen brown that's the only way possible yeah a score that's better than jalen that jaron jackson maybe he's still their second best player because the defense is so good but a second offensive option i don't think that's impossible jerry is not a sparn burner offensively yeah you trade for somebody like what like like like Desmond Bain? I like the way you think. Listen, we were just talking about, you know,

the Celtics traded KP, the traded Drew. Is Jalen Brown next? Connor games could look real smart. He can't know. If Jalen Brown becomes a Memphis grizzly. No, and this is why, like if you're Memphis, this is why you trade Bain. Just because you've seen this team over the last five years

only be able to get one playoff series win. It hasn't been able to mesh. Even if you get somebody as good as Desmond Bain, being able to just try something new would be worth it. And so now you have all of these assets to go after somebody like that. I would have hate it. Yeah. Okay. King Diesel said the Atlanta Hawks are going to

make a trade for a star and go in a run similar to the playoffs in 2021. Great timing. Yeah. We said this, I made this slice show this morning. They traded for KP 20 minutes ago. And as soon as the Thunder 1, I tweeted out the East Final 4 for next year. And I had, I included the Hawks in that.

So I think that the Hawks are going to be able to potentially make a run, win a playoff series, and we'll see what happens if they can get back to the conference finals. Yo, do you feel hope for the first time in like five years? Don't answer. You're trying to set you up. Yeah, I know. I felt so many times.

I don't want to feel no hope for real, but just know. Embrace it. Things are happening. Yeah, a trade for another master star genuinely isn't happening because the Giantsi Murray back trade really hurt us and we don't have really many asses to go make that type of leap unless we're getting rid of Dyson Daniels and Richie saying at that point I think you're just gutting your team just for

the super short side I wouldn't do that but a run happening similar to 2021 I smell it the KP trade counts we'll allow that to be the first part that's our star does a run come next we'll see Lewis Perez says the Chicago Bulls go all in for Jonathan Cominga to usher in a new era of Bulls play in tournament basketball it sounds very Chicago Bullsish Sounds mad, believable. Send Lonzo Ball

on a signing trade back to the Warriors. Everybody's trying to trade Lonzo Ball. Hey, man. Get him in that system. Hey, man. K.P.

to the Bulls. Kind of cooking. The K.P. Josh Giddy duo runs the playing tournament. Oh, that's basketball. Hell, man. A big three of Kobe White,

Josh Giddy, and Kaminga. Free Buzellis. Forty one wins every year. Let's fucking cook. This would make all the sense in the world. I hope this happens.

This feels like an accurate prediction. Let Kminga get his buckets. Let him get his bucket. opportunity that he thinks he deserves, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but he hasn't gotten that opportunity yet. And it's obviously been a large source attention with his locker room. Give it to him. Let's see what happens. I'm interested in that experiment. Just send them to the Nets and call it a day, please. That too. Send everybody to the Nets. Mason says, Devin Booker goes to Detroit. Yeah. Let's get it going. That's amazing basketball. Let's get it

going. Cade and Booker, and now you don't have to rely on Kade to be like the go-to guy. You actually have a bucket getter. I need that. This would be the purpose. Do I would love Cade and Booker together the small just like intricate details are games would work so well off of each other the way that he could relieve the pressure off of Cade and be able to set him up and not make Cade have to do everything with the ball on his hands pounding dribble getting turnovers this would be amazing and vice versa for someone like Devin Booker too we seen him at his best when he had Chris Paul along his side setting up the table and just tell him but Devin Booker like just get buckets I got everything else don't worry about none I love this for them I love this I love it for for Detroit especially Elaine in the chat said, how can I make the pistons more unlikable? I don't know what the streets feel about Devin Booker. If the internet hates him right now, I do not hate him. I do not hate Kay Cunningham. I would like that duo a lot.

I need this. Elena's also a Timberwolves fan. So maybe she still has some remnant hatred in her heart for when they beat the shit out of the suns. And it was like, everybody picked the suns over the Timberwolves. So maybe she's praying out of their downfall a little bit. Shout out to Elena. Shout out.

Ray Bronto said, 76ers take a swing to get Lowry Markinen and trade Poldo, bump up to the fourth C with an actual healthy roster. Where's Paul Do you like the idea of trading Paul Doe and their pick for Lowry Marketing in? No. I would want to do this. It's clear as they like the Paul George signing was the biggest swing that the last swing and the biggest win that they have when it comes to the Joel and Beat era. I think at this point in time it would be so smart for them just to inhale this third overall pick, whether it be Vijay Edgecombe or H. Bailey or whatever it might be.

Yeah, just suck it in, accept it, digest it, let it be in you, breathe young, youthful, live through the Jared McCann and Tyre's Maxie era. No. Have those young guys. I think you don't get an opportunity to pick number three very often. Well, listen, if you're the sixers, you had a whole era where you did that. But you have to, you have to, like the number three pick could be an out for you. I hate to, I don't hate, but like to keep harping on this. point you don't know when joel and beat is going to be able to be healthy enough for you you know

the paul george contract is already looking bad you you have to have some life for the future this number three overall pick can be that i don't think you you trade that in right now okay ian briscoe said lamello bogg traded to a contending team and the return is only one first round pick no man doesn't mean just got traded for four lamello's getting at least two i don't know the only teams are trading four first on picks like that or like win now teams that like that's the next piece he said contending team i don't think a contending team needs to give up for philomelo so like he only goes to a contending team if it's a sell low and the league gave up on him what are you are you really a contending team are they that's what i'm saying like contending team only gets him

if the price is in the gutter if it's going to be a big trade and like multiple picks it's probably going to be more like a rebuilding team i think that wants to make him the centerpiece are there any contending teams that would do that because the rock is off top of my head maybe everyone those the clippers out there as a little bit of little bit of Clippers, I don't think That'll be fun That'll be really fun Clippers have a new identity

But that's again That only makes sense If they could buy low And if the stock on Mello was low The stock is low But I don't know how that equates The trade value What GMs think

Because it's not like You're not getting fire First on Picks of Lamello at this point He needs to rebuild his value for that It's probably more than one though But I don't know where it falls In between there I'm looking at the like two and two pick swaps

Maybe yeah But if the general prediction That he gets traded to a team this summer I don't think so but it's not impossible for what it's in the cards greatness production

says Walker Kessler to the Lakers how you feel about that I would fucking love that obviously that's why you put it on here but do we think it's possible do we think the Laker

do we think Robert Polinka has it in him to get this deal done Danny Hage hates the Lakers keep in mind yeah Danny Ainsch wants to scam him he's itching to scam him

he's fucking salivating his glands are full thinking about biting Rob Polinka's head off now I normally we like to make jokes about Polinka time and time again

he's actually come through on some pretty big things. Shout on Nico Harrison. And so. It's the only big thing. No. The obvious. No.

To remake the roster, like halfway through, granted, I'm not going to give him credit, but like to get everything that he got in 23 when they remade the roster, I, like, he's shown that he can make some deals. Sure. That are pretty solid. I don't think it would be impossible. Okay. I don't think it's happened, but I would love for it to happen.

So I hope you're right greatness. Speak, Cleopoulou. Derek Lively traded to the Lakers. The trade will not make sense. The trade will not make sense. It's my favorite part. Do we think Robert Polinka has one more scam left in him? Does Nico Harrison have one more?

Does Nico Harrison have one more ounce of piss running down his leg to give us? Donovan, we have to find a producer and kill Isaac. We have to find a new producer. Put that post up on LinkedIn immediately. I can't be in charge no more. This would be hilarious. This is a hot prediction. Obviously, we don't think they're going to trade Lerick Lively.

They have no reason to trade Derek Glevely. They did just give Daniel Gaffer $20 million. They do have Anthony Davis. Dolphin Connect fits quite well between those two. All right. Derek Gleck, he's played like 50% of his games so far. He can play 100% in Dallas. We got space.

Him and Cooper Flagg, the Great White Hope duo. Hey. Hey, shut up. Hey, shut up. Nicole Wuchmich can trade into the Lakers. You're going to hell. And also, if you are an NBA fan, you like the deep three and you are a burning producer coming out of college

come over here to work for us at the TD3 we'll pay you exactly four crayons every single week any color of your choice join the squad now DM us this is obviously what I don't want but this would be funny this is a Warriors fan so I think this is like a hate comment I think he's wishing the worst on me oh that's why I included it I think he wants me to die that will be the it won't be the worst thing for the linkers it won't be bad it would not move me at all I'd be I'd be upset he could Get you. Let's make it happen then.

I will not have a good time. This happens. Let's make this happen. Floor Spacer rebound. The Lakers go out. DeAndre Aden and he becomes a top 12 center in the NBA. Thanks to Luca and make a finals run. This will be his dream come true because out of us three, he hasn't.

Not a love him, but we've been super down on him. He's in love with him. No. But I will say, he said, He said, Come to the island. Fly me out, DJ.

I'll never give up on the Andre. I can't do it I'll never give up There's something in there Get him in a better situation Put a fire under him There's something in there left To be valuable

I don't think it's that happened It's a lot of money But like I'd rather have this in Vosovic Yeah I'm a fan of buying low on guys That we've seen thrive In certain situations

And they're no longer in that situation I am not done with Aiden I'm not a believer per se But there's a chance There's a little bit in there There's a spark left It's a dominant Yeah

I could be sold If the price is right I could be sold I would not be if this happens I will not be as mad as the Lakers fans will be. One of the Cavs Big Four will be traded by the deadline. Let me guess. Jared Allen, to the Lakers.

Hey, I didn't say it. No, but what's more likely? Obviously, something will be done. It's not going to be Mobley. Probably won't be D. Mitch, barring, surprising trade. I don't think, I actually think this is a bad prediction. I don't think any one of them are getting traded by at the deadline. I think the cabs are going to be either the one or two seat out east next year.

So you think they're running back completely and believe. that the regular season was real if they didn't get hurt they would be in the finals they're gonna give themselves another chance they're gonna give themselves one more opportunity

to go into the playoffs with this big four and see what you actually have and then if their leg gets let if their leg gets wet gets leg I know

basically if they piss on themselves somebody's getting traded yeah okay next one Jaylon Brown gets traded to the Spurs for the second pick and Devin Vassell

and the Spurs make the finals guys who's on the bench for the spurs Nah. If they make this deal, who's coming off the bench? I think Devin Vesel's contract is too big and too long. Pause.

What the f! Sorry, man. Nobody was going to say anything. I'm sorry. I caught myself and now it's kind of crazy. But anyways, I don't think Devin Vesel fits what the sellers are trying to do, which is just shed cap space. Yeah, they probably don't want that money back.

So, I mean, they could always rewrite them to a third team. So that's always possible. But I don't know, Jalen Brown for the second pick, I see the vision. I don't know if they're necessarily going to be trying to. to trade the second second pick overall. I think they like

Dylan Harper. They like the timeline he's on with Wemby and they like they just want to run that back and you know stay calm don't do too much

but if they did do this I would not be upset I would see the vision okay yeah I'd be okay with it they're in the chat going crazy talking about your girth and tonnage comments

yeah it was crazy Janus goes to the Raptors I saw that too Karrison Yonnas goes to the Raptors and it's like the 2019 run once again with the Raptors at least get into the conference finals.

No. I had to think about it. Okay, Yon is here. Yeah, my son. Get back to your day job. I had to throw the Raptors a bone. You know, they always feel like nobody cares about them. I tried to make you guys care

and apparently you shit on them once again. Yeah. And that's the last one. Sorry Raptors fans. This is ending with a Dutch. Nobody cares. Yeah. And with that being said.

that's the end of the stream we appreciate all y'all coming through all 2,000 of you here right now shout shout out the hawks for trading for khrsingis got the sum is blowing it up they gave us a lot to talk about on stream today wow good active stream the hawks are this is our ascension this is our rise via khras zingis we're coming harder than ever shout out to nico harrison for tipping one dollar in the last minute of the stream appreciate you send another one said one more dollar that being said we'll see y'all later we'll see you tomorrow for our NBA draft stream we're going to do a live reaction we're going to do just like we did last year it should be good yeah man we'll see y'all tomorrow