The Deep 3 Podcast - We Talked To De'Aaron Fox About Life As A Spur

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I mean, like, I was so used to something for almost eight years. I've been parking in the same place for almost eight years, and now I'm doing something else. Yeah, and people just think, like, oh, he's fast, he's athletic. I'm like, bro, I don't play anything like that anymore. And I'm still fast. I'm still athletic. Like, I still got that. Don't think I'm out of that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Don't think I ain't got that now. I've seen some people say he might be like one of the best athletes to NBA's ever seen. He might be? He definitely is, right? No, no, no, no. He might be the best. And I look down in my finger and it's like this. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I mean, I think I still had a decent year. I play a lot better than a lot of other people. No, that's right. It seems like. The cranium is crazy. Oh, my God. I mean, I don't know what to say. Pray on eaters rejoice.
Starting point is 00:00:48 We are here with a very special guest. We're here in Texas in San Antonio. Talking to the newest San Antonio Spur, De Aaron Fox. How you doing, man? I'm good, man. I appreciate you having me. Of course, man. I appreciate you coming through.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Has it been back in Texas? I know you played here in high school. Was there anything you're looking forward to you about coming back? Being able to get Waterberg whenever I want. I was going to ask that first thing. And being around Papados, too. But then just living like, you don't, I don't know, I haven't asked where y'all were from, but being...
Starting point is 00:01:15 We're from Texas. Oh, y'all, everybody's from Atlanta. Okay, so being here, like, everything's off the freeway. Yeah. Like, you get off a freeway, there's a billion things to eat. There's a billion stores. In California, when you get off the... Like, there's nothing off the freeway.
Starting point is 00:01:29 You got to, like, basically drive into a community every time you want to go to something. So I was, I really appreciate being around that again. I need to know what your water burger order. So, obviously, breakfast, we get in a honey butter chicken biscuit. Naturally, naturally. Easy. What I do is I'll do the honey barbecue chicken strip sandwich. But if I don't want honey barbecue, you can substitute it for honey butter sauce.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Ooh. I think you say Buffalo. The Buffalo one's good, too. No, no. This is a Bondower right here. Yeah. I'll substitute for honey butter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:55 You been to Buckees? Who hasn't been to Bucky? Okay. What are we talking about? I don't know how we're talking about. Of course. So we're my parents. So I grew up in Katie.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And Katie, it's like I ran outside of Houston. There's a Bucky's like literally 10 minutes from where my parents live. So you can just go to Buckees just because. Like that a Pull-Fork sandwich is special. Every time I tell people that aren't from Texas, I get a pool pork sandwich from a gas station. They're like, are you fucking nuts? I mean, yeah, it's a gas station, but this is a super gas station. This ain't no regular gas station.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yeah, if you're not from, like, if you ain't been the one, you just, you don't get it. Yeah, it's a cultural divide. Yeah, come on. How's the adjustment been since you've been back in San Antonio? It's been, I think it's more accustomed to, like, playing with a new team, playing with new guys. I think that was the biggest thing for me. Outside of that, like, coming to San Antonio, like, I visited San Antonio because my wife's parents still lived here. So, and then, like, I'm in, like, my house is in Houston in the off season.
Starting point is 00:02:55 So I'm always coming back to Texas regardless, but. I think the biggest shift was, one, I went, the Spurs got a new practice facility, I think last year, maybe two years ago. But the addresses are like the same. It's like one word that's different from the address. So for me, I'm going to a new spot that I've never been to. I end up going to the wrong practice facility, my first practice. But it's, that's probably the biggest adjustment. Like I was so used to something for almost eight years.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah, like almost eight years. I've been parking in the same place for almost eight years. and I'm doing something else. Like that was like, that was like shocking to me. Yeah, got a lot of questions to do with that for sure. Just I guess before we even get to that, like, one of the most interesting things I think about for the past couple of years with you is how much your game has changed over the past few years.
Starting point is 00:03:40 You know, obviously came in the league, had the label, fastest guard in the league, pure athleticism, downhill driver, that's your whole game. You really developed a lot in recent years, more jump shot focus, really getting the three-level score. How does it felt doing that? And I really, what's different about the league now from when you came into the league to now that kind of necessitates that it was crazy I appreciate that because I feel like a lot of people still be like yo when he loses that when he loses uh athleticism what's he
Starting point is 00:04:04 gonna do I'm like bro my game is so jump shot or even right now here you're like a mid-range specialist we don't think yeah he's fast he's athletic I'm like bro I don't play anything like that anymore like I just go yeah that means you don't watch but yeah I mean for me I've always wanted to play in this league for a long time like like I said bro I'm year eight and I'm still fast I'm still athletic like I still got that don't I don't think I'll have that. Don't think I ain't got that now. But like to have that type of longevity,
Starting point is 00:04:35 I feel like you have to be a better, you have to develop your skill. You have to be able to shoot the ball. And that's what I've always tried to focus on. And what I always tell people with the way that I'm changing my game, like how many super athletic point guards have you seen that won a championship? And like that's ultimately what I want to get to. And your point guard has to be able to shoot the ball
Starting point is 00:04:53 if you want to be able to win at a high level. And that's kind of the thing. that really made me start to change my game. Now, I was still like top five or top six in drives this year. So it's not like I'm just not driving the ball. But I definitely have put a hyper focus on being a better shot creator and a better jump shooter. How do you draw that balance?
Starting point is 00:05:12 Because you know, I feel like obviously you said, you want to diversify the shot profile, don't want to be two one dimensional, but you also don't want to go away from something that, you know, two years ago, 23, you shot like 77% at the RAM, something just ridiculous. Yeah, but even that year, I think I had like one of the highest field goal percentage
Starting point is 00:05:27 the mid range as well so like yeah just thinking about like you said trying to find that balance that's something that i still i don't think i struggle with it but i'm still trying to obviously uh fine tune that um i mean it's how the game's going how are you shooting the ball you know is my team struggling to get to the paint um it's it's it's it's it always varies like it's not it's not always going to be same every game yeah and so like throughout throughout the year like obviously you know you you played a basically the whole year with a messed up thing I mean you recently you recently just got surgery on that on on your shot playing through that the whole year does that affect like your day-to-day like
Starting point is 00:06:05 your just actual shot does your shot mechanics have to change how did that really affect you yeah I tried not to change too much because like like you know I'm shooting like the same way I have for for years now but it was just being able to control the ball was just so hard rather it was dribbling or rather who was dribbling or shooting and like if I didn't take my fingers together like my finger literally sat like that wow so i've worked out i had worked out with it like that before and when you throw me the ball the first thing you're hitting is my finger is the is the front of my finger so that's why i had that's why i had to tape it like that um but i don't know i mean i think
Starting point is 00:06:41 i still had a decent year like i play a lot better than a lot of other people like um do i think i was really good this year no but like i said i think i played a lot better than a lot of people and i'm playing with i was playing with four fingers on my shooting hand but um i um i I'm ready for this to get as straight as possible and be ready for next year. Yeah, I mean, look, the day before it was announced, you dropped 30. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I can see, you know, it didn't really affect you like that. It affect me a little.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And I had 60 and 49 back-to-back days. 109 points and you got to know. Yeah, yeah. So, like, I was, and it's funny. So today, when I was leaving, I saw Pop, Tim and TP. And I had shown them, I showed them pictures that I just showed y'all. Yeah. And they looked at me.
Starting point is 00:07:25 He was like, yo, how long have you been playing? like that I'm like I played every single game like that this year and Tony looked at me like like what the hell hey it is what it is I played through an injury like now if I can't walk or something I won't play but with something like that like if I can get out there and I felt like for a majority of the season I still was able to affect the game so I felt like I was good enough to see he mentioned showing us a photo people at home didn't see it he said want to see a picture immediate yes of course somebody asked me that immediate yes if jaren fox asked him that immediate yes I was not prepared for how discussion that fucking thing was not at all and that was that
Starting point is 00:07:59 that was actually from today oh wow that was fresh under that bandage yeah I thought it was weeks ago no so I got the stitches out Friday and then I had some like tape over it and then like there's a splint under this so we had to take that off clean and do some stuff and that's what it looked like today yeah how did that initially happen uh training camp second day of BCR had the ball and I'm kind of my guy's cutting back door and I kind of just stabbed at the ball I wasn't even trying to steal it I was just just trying to make it move it and I look down in my finger and it's like this and I have the film but like you can't see my finger and the camera's like there and you see me turn and I just
Starting point is 00:08:36 do that pop it back and just kept going that's like some movie shit like it just brought some dirt on it so when I when I did it like it didn't hurt too bad and I'm like oh like I'm fine like I just kept going I wake up the next morning my it literally my pinky looked like my thumb that's it's You got two thumbs you're a monster So it was swollen It was bent I missed one game for it But it was the last preseason game
Starting point is 00:09:05 Yeah But every regular season game I was out there And what's crazy is when I got surgery Doctor was like the doctor was like He's like that's the toughest finger that I've ever done Really? Because like it started healing And like all this tissue down here
Starting point is 00:09:19 Was healing under And it's supposed to heal over your joint So he's like he had the pull it And he was like making noise Oh your finger was jacked up He was like He was like I wish I recorded it Damn
Starting point is 00:09:33 He was like it was the worst one that I've ever done And like it's never going to be straight Like all the way straight again But as long as it's not in the way I'm good You said let the record show I drop 100 points in one day The worst pinky in NBA history It was crazy when he told me that I was like you know what
Starting point is 00:09:47 I'm glad you said that because now I feel like I wasn't exaggerating I feel I feel it made me feel good about it He made me feel good about it, for sure. You know, we mentioned you're obviously known as the fastest point guard in the NBA having your whole career. I want to play a little game. Who do you think is the fastest NBA player at every position in the league?
Starting point is 00:10:03 At every position in the league. Yeah, currently. Point guard, I still think is me. Okay, fair enough. That's easy. Who would we argue? Like, I hit jogs. Like, no, people, I be like, bro, I don't even sprint.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Like, I'd be. That's tough. I got a lay up with like, I think it was like 3.2 on the clock. And Keldon every day, he's like, y'all, I'm fastening you. So I did that. I said, Keldon. want you to know i didn't even run kellman swole ass and saying he's fast have y'all had him has he no no on tv he looks like linebacker i can't imagine i said well y'all y'all y'all would see why he
Starting point is 00:10:34 thinks that something something's wrong with him uh two guard donna donovan mitchell or zach levin oh that's a good answer one of those two um three who were counting is like threes though i was gonna say i had my mind of men thompson if we're counting him as a three i think he plays a four technically but he's a three you know it's okay it's weird i'm thinking of just like just like guard and then for three and four just like wings okay yeah yeah we'll go wings yeah i would say i mean thompson i mean is ridiculous this quick twitch like first step is insane i think he's more athletic than his brother now i think they're i think he's up there too but i think he's a demon versus demon right i know it's oh d yeah i've seen some people say he might be like one of the best athlete's
Starting point is 00:11:12 and people don't really realize he might be he definitely is right no no no no he might be i don't want to say too much but i agree he might be the best what makes you oh the best give him the crown the best bro have y'all seen him oh yeah seen him not in person though but well he he he guards me so so no no I think I mean and then you got to go with those two and then like zion yeah is his count the strides are so big that I don't think Janus is that fast I do think he's yeah but I don't think he's see with Zion's fast I thought it was his quickness not necessarily no both like top in speed too wow both of them I think and Zion be running like he will be looking like he's running at no he be he be moving and then center and then center
Starting point is 00:11:59 center's hard yeah like who would you low key Alex Saar is fast he is mobile for a center I mean I think he's really a four he is playing the five there yeah you know before before the injury's Ben Simmons yeah he definitely definitely definitely yeah I guess he's playing center now these days but yeah I guess we can go I guess we can go Alex Sar yeah yeah the rookie not yeah Yeah. Are you racing guys? Like at the at the facility like we'll try you. No, I'm not racing nobody. No, people, uh, Blake and KJ, they both swear they're fast to me. Like until you all start getting to the basket like me, I ain't, I ain't worry about it. And I'd be like, would you pick me up full court? If the answers no, that tells you all you need to know. Were you just fast your whole life? Do you like run track when you're younger or what? No, I've just, I've always been fast. Like people always ask me like what drills I've done. I've done. I've never done anything for it and I will never run track yeah like absolutely not wow it'll be cold out there tights I'm like I'm not doing speaking of getting back to the whole point you know we talked about you changing your game over time how do you how do you envision that changing
Starting point is 00:13:04 again now that you're playing in San Antonio you know obviously big change for your career but especially who you've been playing with you haven't really played with a true rep protector or in my opinion you haven't really paid a true stretch big a true lob threat now you have potentially the best of all time at all three of those things in one person how do you think that's going to, like, change your style of play naturally playing off him? I mean, for me, like, I feel like I'll go a little more into a facilitating role, but I think the big thing for me is how well can I shoot the ball? I think that's kind of just going to be it, because especially with the way Steph also
Starting point is 00:13:33 gets downhill, I think, not, I think it was last year, I think I was shooting, or past couple years, I've been, like, hovering around 40% catching shoot threes. So I'm like, if I, but I was, I think last year, what I shot, I was shooting like seven three is a game. But I was shooting like one and a half catching shoot and the majority of them were off the dribble. So just being able to do that at a high clip, I feel like opens up the game even more for us because I always tell those guys, I'm like, bro, even if I'm, I could be 0 for 12. When guys drive, like my guy just doesn't help that much. So I've always told guys like, drive my way, you'll be good. There won't be a lot of help. So if I feel like if I'm
Starting point is 00:14:14 shooting the ball at a higher clip, then I feel like it opens up the floor. And then even with that, Like when I have the ball, it makes you to take one step further and it allows me to get downhill and just be able to create for myself or create for other people. When did you have that like realization like, oh my God, there's more space on the floor and everyone's life is easier when I show this capability you're doing. So was it like your second or third year or what? I would say I would say my second year, like the game really started slowing down. I really started slowing down for me. But then I would say probably my fourth year, I was like, yeah, it's the game's gotten. a lot easier. I feel like I kind of figured it out. And then at that time, I was shooting the ball a lot
Starting point is 00:14:54 better as well. So definitely at that time, I figured out that I don't have to shoot me. And for me, I don't even have to shoot 40%. Like you can be around league average and it makes someone step up and it makes the game that much easier for me. Yeah, I feel it's also about like how quick your trigger is and how much they have to respect you in that way, more than just the percentages. But, you know, you didn't play a ton with Victor before the injury. Did you already like day one feel the impact of that spacing and how wide open the paint was oh 1,000% first game and what's funny is i told him my bro i've never played with somebody worth with a big that shoots the ball the way that you do most of it does anything that that that you do and for him he never played with a guard like me as
Starting point is 00:15:33 dynamic as me that could put the ball in the basket and literally our very first game um he gets fouled against Atlanta and um mike one of our coaches comes up to me or we're talking after the game he's like i don't think you know this but like vix never had it to where he set a screen and both guys went with the guy with the ball yeah because he came up and he slipped the screen and both guys came to me and I'm like well I've never had it I've just never been too many times where I've come off a ball screen and they mess up a switch and both go with him and there are been times where it's happened to both of us and it's kind of like like you kind of see what can what what this could be and I hit him he gets fouled he gets the game when he free throws and it was
Starting point is 00:16:12 like from that moment I was like yeah we can be like we can be really good especially as a duo but as a team. I think someone like Kat obviously gets the label like greatest shooting big of all time earned that over course of his career, whereas Wembe is still adjusting. So, you know, the percentage took some time to get going. But the way I feel like teams have to close out to him because his height, like, I feel like the spacing he provides on a pop is like bar none, the greatest ever. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I mean, when he pops, he'll pop like four things in line. Yeah. And then even if you do close out, close the space, one, he can still shoot over you. And two, sometimes he just start getting in his bag. He's going to start getting in his bag. Have you seen something in a practice? So we, um, when I first got here, we were, uh, we were on the middle, we're in the middle of the rodeo road trip. So, yeah, not many practices. And then the one, two, I think, two fully
Starting point is 00:16:56 live practices were we scrimmaged, uh, but he had his blood clout situation. So he wasn't, he wasn't practicing. So no, I haven't seen anything in practice just yet. Just wait. Yeah, it's definitely coming for sure. And outside of like, obviously the encore fit, something like you've never seen, he's never seen. It's going to be great to see. The general, I want to hear about the POV from your career standpoint. Because you know, you're drafted the Kings, losing team that you're really the first step of the rebuild. You're the first guy, the first pillar of that foundation being built. Everything kind of naturally built around you because you were first of that young core, all built around you over time. You saw the team
Starting point is 00:17:27 progressed to three seed and get to the point being competitive. Now you're being inserted to another team that has a foundation and you're being brought to make them a contender to be the ceiling razor now. How does that different point of your career feel? I mean, one, it feels good, knowing that obviously other teams want you. And they see you as a key piece also to what they're trying to build. So that definitely makes you feel good as a player. But for me, obviously, I feel like I want to continue to get better and actually prove them right. But when I first got here, man, Mitch told me he's like, you know, don't fit in.
Starting point is 00:17:58 He wants me to be myself. And I tried to as much as I could, like with my whole hand situation. But and also just learning, you know, an entirely new team. But I feel like we have a lot of guys that are ready to take that next step. And a lot of these guys are still young. um most of these guys are still on it or yeah a lot of these guys are still on their first contract so like it's it's crazy crazy being one of the vets on a team you feel like unc yeah aren't you like the third one's fair on the team that the look i'm the look i'm the
Starting point is 00:18:26 i feel like i saw the realization of your eye i'm fifth i'm fifth because we got cph bids jordan mclofflin's a year old in me oh okay there you go the look the look the look he just gave was like yeah i'm okay trust you guys it's coming yeah i'm not ready to say it out loud with step with step is the worst oh really yeah he's just turned 20 yeah and like you'll be talking about a guy and he has no idea who it is I'm like oh my god like who like we so we were doing um we do so we do trivia before every game oh wow um and we were going through fun team bonding guys with five by fives okay and I said uh I said Jamal Tinsley because it was a guy that played for Indiana I said Jalen I think it was I think it was Jamal Tinsley actually who had the
Starting point is 00:19:10 five by five and he's like Who the hell is that? Yeah, you're putting me out right now. I'm 25. I'm 25. Old enough, he should know. Jamal Tinsley? He has, he, mind you, he has moments like this a lot where like, we'll be, we'll be talking
Starting point is 00:19:26 about, like, maybe about a month ago. You've definitely seen him. You just don't know you've seen him. Yeah, yeah. Yes. You've seen him. What's like career average? No.
Starting point is 00:19:36 No. Basso, no. So I got it because we had the year. we had the year and then they were giving us hints and they're like played in the east big gar blah blah yeah and i started naming people off and got to and i got to him so yeah so you mentioned step there you also know you're the fifth oldest in your team apparently so i guess you're not unc apparently damn i just didn't know the list you know but so you it sounds like you're like the older brother of the team you know essentially yeah yeah definitely definitely
Starting point is 00:20:03 with a lot of these guys so christ paul's in the team obviously legend i'm sure as a point guard growing up to someone you really looked up to again heard you on that dreamongering podcast talk about how he gave that compliment one time about you being a great defender he hates to play because you blow up actions and whatnot and you mentioned you know he's an asshole famously on the court what have you learned from like just like seeing that level of asshole up front like do you feel like when you see it's every game yeah it's every second of the game like he don't he don't let up wow uh but one i mean just what he's done at six foot like he's been in the league for 20 years like that's that's crazy that's i mean like that's not normal um but you kind of just like
Starting point is 00:20:38 how competitive he is, how savvy he is. Like, he's not as quick or as fast or as athletic as he was, but he still puts his imprint on the game just because he's able to think the game so well. And obviously his skill set is obviously still there. But just being able to watch that night in and night out and go into practice and, you know, see what he does with taking care of his body and all of that. Like, that's amazing to see him. For me, like, I play with Vince Carter in his 18th year, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:06 being able to be around guys like that like it's honestly crazy and I feel like my friends are like bro you played it like one of my best friends like he has a picture of me standing next to Braun and I don't think of it that way because I played against bra for eight years now yeah yeah but he's like bro my best friend was playing against LeBron Day yeah it's like it's crazy and I don't like I said I don't I never think about it that way because I've always felt like I was I'm going I'm in that conversation yeah you're in the world the same world yeah but it's it's always it's always nuts and is it different being on the same team is that where the coolness factor comes in you're like yeah
Starting point is 00:21:39 every day to day between games you're talking like i'm seeing cp3 every day yeah i've never i've never called i we call them cp or sometimes we'll say chris but like yeah that's that's nice between cp and bitz carter what have been like the biggest or most important zims that they dropped on your head when you were um i think a big thing is just taking care your body like vc used to be on a table all day i said bro we need like you ain't do nothing in a week. He's still taking care of his body. He's still doing it. He was about like 38 at that point. It hurts to get out of bed, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. He has to be something like that. Yeah. So, a lot of miles. Just being able to see those guys and what they do night and
Starting point is 00:22:20 the night out, day in and day out coming to practice or even on an off day, just being able to take care of their bodies. That's definitely the big thing. Yeah. You mentioned, you know, you've whole your career, you've been playing against LeBron, playing against Steph. You entered, basically the start of what people, you know, the modern NBA post-2015 revolution. you've guarded some of the most talented offensive players the league's ever seen. What do you think are the most unstoppable moves in the NBA right now? Or NBA history, either
Starting point is 00:22:44 one. I don't know if Dame is still doing it, but whenever he splits the ball screen, before he gets to the screen, I'm like, what? Like, you, like, no one does that. He's the only person that does that. And he usually does it from, like, he'll be at a standstill, and his between the legs
Starting point is 00:23:00 is so explosive. I think his was always that one. Like, you'll just, because he'll just be standing there, he'll go between and just take off and he won't use the boss like the boss you'll be setting the screen for him and instead of going around you and splitting the big he'll go between here yeah it's like no his was definitely his is definitely especially after that pelican series after drew holiday and that aggressive defense gave him trouble with the double teams he's gone so much better fighting through that now you can't trap him he's just gonna fight through it yeah his is like no
Starting point is 00:23:28 I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that yeah she's the same way though you try to trap him he just doesn't run around it yeah he just doesn't matter yeah it's it's that's that That's the craziest one. And then obviously chasing Steph. Yeah. Like there's no one who does what he does. And like the whole offense is built around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 If Steph gets the ball, where's Steph again? Yeah. How frustrating is it to play against them? Oh. You feel like you played great defense. One to ten. Ten, for sure. I thought you said 12.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Unless you're the guy, unless you're the guy not, if you're the guy not chasing him, then like, a little easier. Yeah, Aaron struggling. But if you're the guy chasing him, bro, is hell trying to just. Jason around all that. Oh, you were drafted at the peak of James Hardin. Did you ever guard him early in your career? Yeah, I guarded James a bit.
Starting point is 00:24:11 How was that? So I was drafted. Did Golden State win at my year? Yes. Yes. And the year, my second year, I think is the year that all the guys got hurt and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, James was OD. Did he give us 50?
Starting point is 00:24:26 What's it like at this age guarding him? Because, you know, he's older. Post-hamstering doesn't have the same burst. So the game changed, a lot more jump shot dependent, get into the free-thal line. Do you still feel, though, that craft is still a nightmare Oh, I mean, he's definitely still super crafty. I mean, James is still James.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Obviously, we got accustomed to watching a guy average 35 in a season. Like, that's not normal. At all. But, I mean, he still is doing like 21, 22, eight assists, six rebounds. Like, he's still very effective in having that Clippers team better than what anybody think they were going to be before Kauai came back. That just sounds so unnormal. And I think as time goes on, James is going to be more appreciated.
Starting point is 00:25:01 But within that, too, I have a question. And what are the most, like, underappreciated players in today's game to you? I thought you're going to be like, who's better, D-Water, James? We could go there too. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Let's have the combo. Very underappreciated guys. I mean, I think James is definitely going to be in that conversation. Yeah. I think right now, like, someone like J.T. Jason Tatum. Yeah. Yeah. The disrespect on Jason's crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Exactly. The fans decided he's not like that. And he's, like, the fourth to fifth best player in the world. I mean, he's been first team with the last, like, five years in a row. That's insane. You have to respect the anomaly. No, it's definitely underappreciated right now.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I think, like, someone like C.J. McCullum, because he's never made an all-star game. But his average is over 20 for, like, 10 seasons. Like, yeah. I think Dame will get that as well. I think it's definitely a few more guys in there. But because guys, you know, haven't won a championship or this or this or that and that,
Starting point is 00:26:00 like, it is what it is. especially this year i feel like people kind of because the bucks the fit isn't going super well with the star duo people kind of assume dame isn't still dame in those minutes where it's him and yonis on the bench he is playing dame basketball it was exactly the same we did two years ago i mean he's still average like 25 yeah and when yonis on the bench he's on a 30 point pay still he's still exactly who he was yeah but that's NBA fans in general and we got to find something to complain about yeah exactly that is in all sports it's funny because like with um what's his name taylor jenkins that just got fired crazy like you kind of look at it and people like oh well he was
Starting point is 00:26:33 this and this and that and that it's like bro if you go on any fan bases Twitter hate their coach they hate their coach like you're going to have at least a third of the fan base hates their coach like it is what they're like no no coach is going to be perils bro a coach can win 10 titles in a row you're going to have 25% of the fan base that wants to get that wants him fires and the best part is NBA fans don't know shit about NBA coaching no like people just like there's offensive coordinators these days on coaching staffs defense of coordinators people don't know what a coach actually does I mean that runs most of the stuff yeah and like it's so much of it is like how they handle a locker room how they handle so and so how they handle like
Starting point is 00:27:09 rotations like yeah people just like assume win game good coach lose game bad coach play the player I like good coach play the player I don't like bad coach no that's why you can't you can't argue with everybody gosh don't I know it our job is to argue on the internet our comments I used to argue I just ignore it now TikTok 10 year old what are some of the most annoying fan tendencies that you experience uh it's the parley's isn't it yeah but i would say like but i feel like with parlays it's not usually like a fan of your team or like a fan of you it's it's random motherfucker is that just trying to make a quick buzz just trying to make some money yeah so i don't even i don't even say that's like they're trying to make rent yeah i wouldn't that's not the way you
Starting point is 00:27:51 should be trying to yeah i wouldn't even say that's yeah i wouldn't even say that's a fan like that's just someone trying to make money uh something annoying about fans i think fans that just like we said think they know yeah what i think they know about everything like it's not always cut and dry like that it's not always like the numbers or whatever so something like that there you go man lots all the time i got with you today appreciate you coming through it was a great conversation it was real fun yeah man get you about your day again thank you for coming through i appreciate you guys, man. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I appreciate you, man.

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