The Deep 3 Podcast - What A Ring Would Mean For Every NBA Superstar | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's talk about what a ring this season would mean to every single superstar in the league. So if they were to be the team that has the final trophy by the time we hit June, what that would do for their legacy, what that would do for how you talk about this player and so forth. Finally. There. First player up, Shea, Gildless Alexander, going back to back. What would that do for his legacy? It would stamp him as one of obviously the greatest players of all time. It would stamp him as having one of the greatest peaks of all time.
Starting point is 00:00:26 assuming he gets MVP, you have back-to-back MVP's, back-to-back championships. That only happens with Jordan, with LeBron. Like, you are in such a small category of player. Everything, all the, the hate probably rises, but the shade stamping happens. It probably puts you on what, top 20 player trajectory, right there with Yonis and Yolk it's in them?
Starting point is 00:00:47 Yeah, yeah, I agree. Like, you're right, you're 100% because only other guys, guys, guards, only other guards who are like that's Jordan. It puts you above Yonis. Third grade is two guards. Jordan and Colby The ceiling's there If he goes back to back
Starting point is 00:01:01 The ceiling to be better Than DO8 all time is certainly there Wait so all time So all time we consider him as a two Two guard As a two guard I'm just thinking guards Oh whatever
Starting point is 00:01:10 If you were if you were sure Yeah I just I just want to know He's a point guard He's in another air He'd probably be a two guard So I guess we'll put him in point guard Yeah because I think if Kobe played in this era He would play like as you game so
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah Yeah Where do we compare him Yeah are we comparing him to Mike and Kobe? be here to magic and stuff. It probably depends on the rest of his career goes. Let's just say guards. It's the only reason why is because then the conversation becomes, where can he be
Starting point is 00:01:36 higher at? Either way, it sounds like three is like the ceiling because he's not passing those two guys neither side. So the ceiling, the question would be if he gets another ring this year and we can say can keep going, can he be the fifth greatest guard of all time one day? It would be the ceiling. That's great. Which has passed a lot of other grades two with a point guard position.
Starting point is 00:01:52 So that's not a given. But, you know, Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Jason Kidd, Oscar. Robertson, two rings, two mvPs would put you above or with all of them. That's mad, yeah. Like, that's Isaiah Thomas's catalog. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Can I tell you about IT? Catalog's a funny word. Discography. This record will be as good as any of IT's record. It would be. It would be. This is a classic. Jalen Brunson.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Record. It would make him the most famous athlete in probably New York history. Really? History. I don't know. It would solidify him. Yeah, Derek Jeter's pretty hard to be.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It would solidify him. It would solidify him in the top five. Okay. If he was the one to bring the Nixon championship after 50 years and on the one team that the city is not divided on. Yes. Yeah, you're right. That would be the one thing because getting a championship wouldn't vault him in
Starting point is 00:02:48 the crazy all-time talks. It wouldn't do anything different. People already consider him a superstar player. It would make him a New York legend. It would make him a franchise icon on the short list. of Nick's goats. Yeah, I think people would also view him in the specific way and where, like, a lot of people in the past or there's been a growing there where you can't win with small guards.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Remember a couple years ago, Becky Hammond was like, yeah, like, I don't think you can win with small guards. And she pointed at him directly. And I think we would have to look at his superpowers, his ability to get buckets, whether it be on balance, off balance, contested, uncontested. He's just one of the greatest scores of all time. Victor Womenyama, to get a ring this young, to beat the Thunderbush, presumably, to beat the Nuggets, presumably, what would that do for his legacy?
Starting point is 00:03:29 He is on goat status. That is, like, he is on the way, obviously. Year 3 championship? That's ridiculous. Top 5 player in the world year 3, winning a championship year 3? You can't ask for a faster start than that. That's doing waste of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:42 You know? That's bad. Yeah, so you now have the official track to be the goat. You are ahead of schedule for a lot of the other guys, because a lot of other guys just don't have it until like year 6 or year 7. the year seven or you're eight yeah that's this like magic johnson type stuff this would jump start the combo of like oh we do have the next lebron james now like right now it's like oh he theoretically can be this this this and that if he wins this fast okay we have our new lebron like this is our new
Starting point is 00:04:09 defining player of all time yeah those face the league conversations better shut down if one be wins it would it would end instantly yeah jalen brown if he wins a championship without jason thayton coming back what does i do for him discourse hell it ruins us what does it do for him it ruins me Oh, my God. So obviously it would ruin Jason Tatum's legacy. What to do for Joe Browns? It would boost up. It would boost up Jalen Brown's legacy enormously.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah, everything that he said he was, everything that he thought about himself is actually true. He did if we would deserve to be MVP of the year, whatever the case may be that, those conversations are fucking valid. He'd be talked about as a top ten player for the next several years. And retroactively, we would say he was always a top ten player. He'd get that nod and would instantly become a Hall of Famer. Yeah. You'd also have to, you'd have to trade Tatum. I just have embarrassment.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah. Jalen Brown is not going to go back to being a second option. He said, I sacrificed everything for too long. For you? Not anymore. You think Tadden would stay as a two? Huh? You think Tadden would stay as a two if they win one together with him as a two?
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah. I think Tadem would be fine with it. Yeah. Come off of Achilles tear. Yeah, chill, bro. Damn. Trade my God. I'm just saying, and Jalen Brown said, and obviously, like, if they win the championship,
Starting point is 00:05:22 I'm going to assume that Jalen Brown is going to win finals MVP. That means that he has two finals MVP. Two finals. Two chips. And he's the one that now everybody can look at and say, oh, he was sacrificing for the better of the team. He was always the better player. Tatum needed to be like him.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Tough. Janice, he gets back to the mountain top and wins this year with this team. Gets into the play in, gets out of the play in. With this team. Beats the number one seed pistons and wins with Ryan Rollins and KPJ. I'm sorry. No, fuck that. He's top 10 off time.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Fuck that. He's top five all time. Top 15 to 20. Just to play it same. If he was with Ryan Rodins, KPJ and Cam Thomas in the same roster, probably finishing games of them. Dude, that's beyond like the LeBron level shit that he was doing back in 2018. Because these are these set of players, if you put them on any other like NBA team,
Starting point is 00:06:16 they're not being like eighth man. Need I not mention Kyle Kuzma? Miles Turner. This would be the greatest ring of all time that would not be close. Yeah, especially like during the storyline, a bit of it too, how he almost requested a trade. Everyone left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:29 He'd be miserable forever. Yeah. That happened. He would pretend he never had anything to do with it. Now he's just the goat from never leaving the bucks. You'll be just like how we thought. The all thing people will retroactively look at the best in the world conversation over the last couple of years and say it was always Janus.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yes, 100% because he'd have the greatest ring of all time. I don't think it was say it was always Yonkich is Yokic, but I think they'll probably be like, it was always 1A, 1B. You can't underestimate me how insane this ring would be. They'd rewrite everything. Yeah. Dylan Brooks. What the sons in the title this year?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yo, Matt S.B. And him are running. They're doing a tour of America. You're wrong. You're wrong. Bill Simmons dies low. Yeah. Dylan Brooks gets a championship.
Starting point is 00:07:14 He becomes the new face of Canadian basketball. I think he starts a foundation. To prime minister. Yeah, he starts a foundation in Toronto to develop basketball players. He just becomes that guy. We are going to get one of the craziest and most entertaining media runs in the offseason. He'd have to join the WWE. This is going to be the most insufferable champion of all time.
Starting point is 00:07:37 That would be so fun. That would be so fun. He would fit right into it. Nicole Yolkich, if he gets back to the mountaintop, beast of thunder, what does it do for him? Three MVP's two rings, puts him. He's officially top ten consensus probably. Top consensus. So he passes up Akeem and Curry and maybe Kobe, like that type of tier?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. if he wins the ring, he can retire today and be top ten. I don't know if he be consensus, but he definitely could be. Like, you could easily argue
Starting point is 00:08:03 he's better than those three guys. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, if he gets back, that's a lot, man. Because, yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:11 we'll see how it's possible. Like, OKC is one shy injury away from Denver winning the title. So we might be in a, like, if shake is hurt, they're going to win the title,
Starting point is 00:08:19 presumably. This summer, we might be having talks that Yokic has lapped Kobe. He'd be creeping up on top five. to be honest with you. All right. Top five is a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Five's a lot. Tough five trajectory. He has to accumulate more seasons. But I mean, that many MPs, that many rings. That's worth of consideration. Five is so hard to break into.
Starting point is 00:08:40 It is hard. You got to be like pristine and early on the scene as well. You have to get like four. You have to get three or four. Yeah. At that point, we had to aim for bird as a comparison.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So I need a few more rings. I feel like for me, the only three locks all time is the top three. Four through ten is very interchangeable. You're right to some extent. But I think, him to get the argument. It'd have to be very similar to Byrd's resume. Otherwise, we'd look at it and be like Bird has two more rings and same things.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Also three MVP's. Also offensive player, Goon for his time. Yeah. But he would get shouts though for sure. Yeah. Cade Cunningham. Oh my goodness. Yeah. If he gets the ring, he's vaulted into top. Also, if they were to ring this year with no other offensive player like that around him. One of the more impressive rings? Yes. I do think this then becomes on the mantle with Dirk's 2011.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Because then they would have to either go through OKC going back to back or Denver and Yokic. I'm assuming those two are going to get out the west. Or Wemby and just the overall better player in that sense, it puts him in where he's at the back half of top 10 right now. And even then, that's like a couple guys are out. So he lapsed Jason Tatum is what I'm hearing. Yes, it puts him at five. Does he actually lap Tato? He lapsed Anthony Edwards.
Starting point is 00:09:59 If he wins a ring... He does. If he wins a ring this year, he's better than he gets above him. He gets above Tato. Better than him. Are we serious? Keep that alien. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:09 If he wins a ring this year, he is better than... Yeah, he wins a ring. Kevin Durant, if he gets his own ring outside of Golden State. That does absolutely nothing for him. Nothing? I disagree. That is a lot. What's a lot?
Starting point is 00:10:22 How are you viewing them any differently than you do right now? He has no doubt top 10. No doubt top 10 all time. And if you tell me he has three wings, what wings, he has three rings, the MVP can be, can be, we can look at him and say he's the greatest score of all time. He's in that conversation. One of the most flawless wing players, like, on paper in terms of like skill, you can argue
Starting point is 00:10:41 he's won if you really, really want to. You know what? I can agree with that because this team, as time has gone on, I think less and less of them. I think there's just a bunch of like one-way players. I'm not comparing it to the honest thing, but this team should not win a championship at all. If he wins this ring, why?
Starting point is 00:10:56 is his resume and his all-time ranking different than Shaq? Peek? Because Shaq has... Yeah, peak and Shaq has four? But the whole argument is going to be at his peak. He was the best, and you can look at him compared to anybody, and he has the ring without help, with help. Obviously, Shaq will rank a little higher, but in terms of resume, like, I feel like they'll be right next to each other.
Starting point is 00:11:16 All the talking points will be the same. Yep. Yep. I don't know. So what I'm saying is this would vault him to, like, eight all time, maybe, right now people probably think about him, like, 12 or 13. Wow. Because I feel like you think about him very similar to Shaq. Now, you still might go Shaq for the rings, like you said.
Starting point is 00:11:32 He's repeated. I'm not saying you rank him above him. But they'd be in the same tier. Yeah, they would be. I forget right. I think I had Shaq, like, 70s. Yeah. So Shaq's the most dominant player ever.
Starting point is 00:11:42 KD's the most skilled player ever. Like, they'd both get those same monikers. I will say how good KD would need to play for them to win a ring? He has average 35. Yeah. He'd have to go insane. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:53 He'd get in a lot of respect. John Morant. Oh, hell not. this would be the most insufferable person. If he comes back and wins a championship. Yo, he's flashing bazookas.
Starting point is 00:12:05 He's out the league already. He don't even give a damn after that. He's done Panama. He's bringing out. He's on the court. He's bringing out a real weaponry. Military weaponry.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Shit that you ain't got here yet. We got everything here. We got lasers. And he's flashing it right at Adam Silver. Pulling out ray guns in this bitch. Blastin young boy too You know It'll be dive off
Starting point is 00:12:29 If I find him way to get a spaceship That would be so hard He would do that If you get a ring In a spaceship In the same time You got it I'll be so hard
Starting point is 00:12:42 You got it You're a him You're a 12 You're a bad guy Space What are we talking about? James Hardin Yo, you're tough
Starting point is 00:12:53 bro James Harden. What if he finally gets his ring with the Cavaliers? Finally gets his fifth opportunity and succeeds. It would be one of the... Also, it depends how it happens. Actually, you know, it doesn't. Let's say he's really good.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Oh, then it becomes this, like, narrative of, like, James Harden went through all of these things, but then eventually, like, overcame the mountain in his... Finally gets the monkey off his back. Finally gets the criticism gone. Now he's undeniable. Now he is top 30 all time. Is one of the best players ever.
Starting point is 00:13:23 No more one of the best rings ever This is just a defining player of his era Yeah, I don't think a singular ring for him And his like long lengthy Reputation will like dismiss All of that But you're right like who'd be not vaulted necessarily But he finally gets a stagher
Starting point is 00:13:38 You think so? It dismissed it for Dirk Yeah If he got one thing It completely dismissed it for Dirk His trail is longer than Dirk Bro Dirk was the one seed amp if he lost the 8th seed He was also slanded like that And obviously 2011 was like exceptional
Starting point is 00:13:51 So that is a lot of heavy lifting Not just any ring And that's the part where it makes it different for me because he wouldn't play the same role as Dirk. He would be like the second guy, maybe the third guy behind Mobley or whatever the fuck. Yeah. But even that, I think, because if they win the ring
Starting point is 00:14:05 Mowgli. Hell no. Because it ain't defensive. Hell no. If they win the ring, then also what gets brought into it is not only the fact that he like overcame all of the like playoff stuff, but his longevity then becomes like a significant part of
Starting point is 00:14:21 the talking points of like he's stuck around long enough was good enough long enough to where it still mattered that he was able to push a team to a championship. Yeah. So then you started talking about him in those conversations. Yeah. And this team specifically, like they couldn't, they've been struggling for years. And he saved them from having
Starting point is 00:14:37 need to blow it up? Yeah. Yeah. It would also go down instantly as the best in-season trade of all time to trade for this guy at the deadline and win the championship. That's the greatest trade ever. Yeah. Quay Leonard. He gets another. That'd be
Starting point is 00:14:51 three rings. Presumably three finals MVP's. It's already hard to talk about Kauai when it comes to all-time conversations because you know what he is as a talent. The resume don't necessarily stack up to it because it's just like no MVP's, a couple NBA's, a couple of all-stars. It would be the most story-like ring of all time because he would get a championship. You would bring an extra layer of legitimacy to the clippers. And then we would never see him again because he's going to get suspended.
Starting point is 00:15:23 It'd be like in the movies when guys are going out shooting and like they know that they're going to die. That would be what it's like with Kauai Leonard. He'd blow up with the Death Star. At that point in time, you're right. Because like what else are you playing for? You don't need to do anything else. Like if he, bro, if they win the ring and then he gets suspended and they like tear up his contract or something like that, this is like just one of the craziest storylines of all times. So, okay, so if he wins a ring, he immediately has one of the most fascinating careers in sports history.
Starting point is 00:15:51 At the very least, it will be interesting. stop talking about it. He'll be the most unique athlete I've ever seen. Luca Donchich. If he wins in L.A. this year with LeBron James, getting him his fifth ring, but obviously with him being the sidekick, with the flawed roster dismantling the OKC team
Starting point is 00:16:06 that might be a dynasty, where does that put, Luca? It puts Luca very, very high, and it makes sure that Nico Harris has to move to Bali. Because he can't live here anymore. He can't do it anymore. We deport Nico Harris. He has to move to Bali?
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah, that's what it would be at. Yeah, it's where the royalty over there. I didn't know that. The best in the world conversation is going to get really nasty. No, no, no. There won't be best in the world conversation. It'll be Luca. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:30 It would just be the best in the world for the summer at least. No, but it'll be a, it was always Luca type of conversation. Yep. He's going to rewrite so many nasty narratives. I will be rewriting history. I will be making sure the bias wins. I don't even believe that. I'll believe it then.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I'll change my mind about 2024, two years later if he wins a ring for the Lakers. Yep. Also, if the Lakers win a championship, we talk about people being insufferable. JJ Reddick would be the most arrogant person on the board. Oh my God. He might have for president the next year just because he thinks he can do anything.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Everything he touches turns the goals. Podcasting demon, coaching demon. I can rule the world. Who's going to stop me? Luke will I retire. What's going on top? Anthony Edwards. Oh man, we're seeing the most craziest
Starting point is 00:17:19 conference finals. The parade ever post-ch championship. Two car in a row And then you win the ring That's progression That's being on track People are immediately putting you in conversations All the time with Dwayne Wade
Starting point is 00:17:30 And comparing you to him You know that'd be a good comparison Yeah They can't win a ring And he didn't even need to get his shack He just did it out of the muscle If Rudy Gaubert Get to ring
Starting point is 00:17:40 Oh What's that doing for discourse If Julius Randall gets a ring Nothing Nothing For someone like him's doing a lot of it Rudy Goberr NBA champion? No, that's the funny part.
Starting point is 00:17:53 If he carries Rudy Gobert and Julius Randall, two players that were castoffs from their team and written off as being non-winning players you can't do anything with and he's like, give me the broken parts, I got him. Impressive ring. Did this.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Top five for impressive? I don't know. Rudy Gobert. What does do we do with Rudy Gobert gets a finals MVP? Finals MVP unanimously. Yo, something terribly You must have witnessed
Starting point is 00:18:18 like some horrific accident. on the court. If he got finals MVP, like everyone died. Multiple playing crashes. I guess we gotta give it a Rudy. It's him or bones, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Bones. Oh God. No, if he get, if Rudy Goberg is champion and finals MVP, it is Bill Russell and him. That's how it is. Because the level that he would have to play at,
Starting point is 00:18:43 if he just all of a sudden just starts taking spin faders all day. Remember when he dicked down the Lakers last year? 25. Did that for a whole series. But if you go average 25 in the finals. I can't family.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Like 20 rebounds or something like that. 27 and 20. He went eight shit. Now, if he did do that, the first words out of his mouth. Like everybody else is like, yo, you know, shout to God. Shout to my coaches, whatever. He has to curse shack out. Number one thing.
Starting point is 00:19:14 He used to have a list of fuck yous. Absolutely. And that is the last one. And it would be deserved. I'd be like, you got to get it off. And Drey Moll, I ought to be on that list too, for sure.

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