The Deep 3 Podcast - Which Generation Of NBA Stars Is Better? | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

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I'm going to show you two separate generations of NBA stars. You're going to tell me who you think is better with this specific version of the player in mind. Old versus new. Right. So first off, Campbell Walker versus Darius Garland. This Clippers Darius Garland. Yeah, whatever for him. Okay. The last like 15 game of Darius gone.

Yeah, I'm taking Darius right now. I think the playmaking is better and I think that's the separation for me. So any version of, not any version of Darius, but I think Dary is gone right now. I'd rather have. Because the playmaking is such a difference maker. And the types of threes, offball threes that he's making is, like, special. I don't think Kemba was the level of shooter that Darius is. Darius is a better playmaker and better shooter.

And it's not like either of them are locking up. Yeah. And it's not like what Kemp was a crazy slasher to make up for it. Yeah. I don't think peak Kamba could, he could like start for a team, but you're not going to be very good. Damn. Darius is obviously like, like Kamba is up there in terms of like twitchiness and, and handles and stuff, but even Darius whenever he's at his peak.

Like his handle, his handle is really good. His handles twitchier. Peak for Pete is, is Garland's handle better than Kempas? I don't want to say yes too fast, but I think, I don't know. I don't know, that's tough. That's a different guy. I think I'm going to go with Darius because I do think his overall scoring bag is, is better than Kempas, but it is close, though.

Because Kempas, like, can do maybe some. slightly less thing, but he's going to be super, like when he was at his peak, he could score, obviously, in volume. But I'll take Darius. And also, Kempa can stay healthy consistently, too. Yeah, I'm picking Darius pretty easily. Yeah. Pacers, Paul George versus this year's Jalen Brown.

Oh my God. This is nasty. All NBA, assuming Jalen Brown versus pre-leg break Paul George. Or whatever, I don't see, whatever the best version of Paul George is to you. Okay. it's the, what, 2018, Paul George? That's tough. His MVP year.

Yeah, yeah. MVP. How's Jalen Brown passed up, Paul George? It's probably going to be the same scenario this year. Yeah, literally. It is literally going to be the same scenario. He's going to be fifth on the ballot, yo, my MVP year. Yep, yep.

So which version of MVP years for Wings is better? Paul George probably because he has a little bit more playmaking and he's a better three-point shooter. I'm going to give, I'm going to give Paul George the nod. And it's unfair to Jalen Brown. Yeah. But I've seen whichever version of like O'Paul George that you want, that version was like a number one just a little bit longer.

And I feel like we're seeing the absolute peak of Jalen Brown. Not sure if we would see this again next year. Jalen Brown is the final MVP? True, true, true, true, true. Man, is Paul George? For all the hate we give Hardin, for his playoff, disappearances, man. Would have thought better of y'all.

It's okay. It's okay Trust me I'm not a Paul George stand either Hold on wait wait I just realized Fuck man Paul George shot 43%

From the field From the field Yeah really 44% from the field In the 2017 2018 2018 season 2018 2019 Yeah he shot 44% from the field Hey that's your MVP not mine

Jalen Brown you got it Oh yeah I got to go Javier Ah man I wish I didn't do research Sometimes it hurts to know too much You watch basketball with the stat sheet Hmm? No, it just, shit.

You know, but I got to respect Dylan Brown. Let it be one time. Prime. Dirk Novitsky versus this year's version of Wemby. Has Wembe's defensive acumen already got him in these conversations? This is a lot. I just want to say yes real quick. In mute.

This is a lot. Obviously, we haven't seen playoffs yet. Assume what you want. Has this version of 2A demon of Wembe got himself into all-time categories? Every single. For this year, you've taken him over Wemby. Every single week, we have a meeting and we think about what we do and we ask ourselves, how can we glaze even more?

How can we go further and further and further? More glaze. I can't stand with it this time. I'm going to go with Dirk on the- He's kicked off the glaze committee. Beesoles, welcome to the crew. We're not even in the playoffs. I've been in the playoffs.

I got a clue. You've been promoted. We haven't got to the playoffs yet. Yeah, well, I mean, for the point of the exercise, I just assume, what you want about the playoffs. Don't assume it's some legendary year, but assume he's as you'd want from a top three player in the world lives up to that. I think

peak for peak with whatever peak Wembe is hitting right now I value that defense and whatever gives you offensively It's two MVP level players. Yeah. Lembert. One's going to be second players. One got the

MVP. Yeah, give me sucks. This is kind of nasty. I don't know. For the modern NBA. way. Wemby might actually be better, but we can still say Prime Dirk from what he did

in his MVP year in the 2011. We can still give him the nods better than Wemby. But if we're rebuilding a team today, I'm probably going to pick Wemby. Yeah, the defense is too, it's too game-breaking. You never seen defense like that

in your entire life. I'll say salute Dirk, you win in this experiments, but if it was a redraft, I'm picking Wemby. Yeah. Yeah, this guy has to be the goat. I know.

He has to be the goat. Yeah, I'm aiming way higher than Dirk. It is like as he talks. This shit is slight to me. This glacial shit. It's just easy. Come on, man.

Tony Allen versus Lou Dort. Dirk's going to see that and be like, don't you ever open your mouth about me. I don't know. I think they're going to be like, shit, movie's difference. I don't know.

Tony Allen versus Lou Dort. Okay, Lou Dort today. I'm going to Tony Allen. Yeah, I'm going to Tony Allen, I think. His three points out was way worse, though.

Yes. No, it wasn't way worse. It wasn't way worse. It didn't exist. Yeah. He didn't shoot three. like him really don't exist in the league anymore.

But players like him, Lou Dort might have been like him back then because maybe he wouldn't have cared as much about shooting threes because it'd be fine. And today, Tony Allen would get in the lab and would probably be as good of a shooter as Lou Dort. Also, for as physical of a defender as Tony Allen is,

we're not calling Tony Allen, one of the dirtiest players in the league. Yeah, true. And he has much more respect as a defender than Dord. If you play today, though, with how hateful Twitter is today, do you think people would? No, because I think what Dorts doing is legitimate.

It's a legit problem. It's actually an issue. Tony Allen, like, they, like, the way people talk about, like, Caruso in the, in the playoffs, that's probably where they're, like, met out with Tony Allen. We have a five-minute highlight tape of him running into people's knees, taking people down. So I'm going to go Tony Allen. Yeah. It's Lou D'Or and Dremont are in a team of the rhone of being, like, ridiculously over the top. Yeah.

I was watching that Spurs versus Warriors game last night because I hate myself. Ramon just throwing himself in Wimby's knees, diving for all these stupid rebounds. I'm like, this guy, man, with Curry isn't there, he's got to show out. I know. It's absurd. I was like, he went, quit rolling around. You're going to hurt the goat. Rookie LeBron James versus 41-year-old LeBron James this year.

I don't even want to think about sciatica. So I'll take rookie LeBron James. Rookie LeBron that couldn't shoot is a rookie or old, wily veteran LeBron that can't drive by people like he once did. He still can't shoot. Well, he can't shoot, but it's a little better now.

It's recovery. He has cold stretch, but he can shoot. Yeah. I'm taking 2026 LeBron. In a playoff series today, what makes the Lakers better? Rookie LeBron or 2026? Man, if they had an athlete like 0.3 LeBron? Amen. Rui, you sit down.

Is O3 LeBron like just a man, Thompson? It's like that. O3 LeBron. Just the men. I don't know if they would give him as much on-ball responsibility. Because he's like 50 pounds heavy. Just turn him to super, like, super Serum or Super Soldier

fucking Derek Jones Jr. Let him be that, bro. And is that better than LeBron James right now? As like elite dirt option, figuring it out. A man or LeBron? Who's better today? That's what I'm saying. It's a man with 50 pounds.

Come on. I don't know about 50. Was he that heavy as a rookie? I don't think he's 50 pounds. A man's not small. A man plus 40 pounds. Point stands? Yeah.

I'm taking 03, Braun. I think it was 2026. I think if I'm the Lakers, I want O3 Braun 2026 Bronn I don't know The scoring is kind of cooked I don't know I guess O3 Braun is probably better If we made O3Bron a role player

On a good team he would have been like Oh God is Aaron Gordon Yeah O3 Bron with 2026 NBA spacing The slashing Yeah come on Okay okay I said is this I said is this a man

This is Kay Cunningham Come on Okay O3 wins old 2018 James Hardin or this year is Luca Now this is tough These are two of the most unethical people I've ever seen in my life

I have no idea how to feel about this Now James Hardin did If I remember Gregory he did have a good playoff run this year Yeah he had like a game winning Yeah he had a damn near a game winning shot That was he had the game winner in the regular season Where he shot over two Warriors defenders Complete aura and hype moments

Got to the playoffs Pushed them to seven But they missed 27 straight three and Chris Paul was injured. Yeah. Fuck you, dude. He's kicking a dead dog. And he had the nerve last week to be like,

I don't want James Harden. No, that's not what I said. I said in that moment, I'm not hated. So, that's a big difference. Do you feel better enough about the playoff version of Luca? Can you say Luca has surpassed James Hardin? Dude. No.

Do you scoring heights? He, knowing with what Lucas is going to do in the playoffs and how the game just look different meaning just

Luca converts to buckets. James Hardin doesn't. Yeah, I'll take. Luke is not as much for a playoff dropper as James Hardin. But regular season

James Hardin is still better. What do you do with that information? What's the, what's the goal? We're trying to win. You're trying to win. It's not like Luke has a chip or

anything. Or a number. MVP. Oh, but if you part of it was like a perennial runner up too. I think we forget about that for like four straight years outside of the year he won. Yeah. And then he got and then he got one. Yeah.

Yeah, that's that's Luka now. That's Luka now. This is a damn there tie. Honestly. Okay. One's better regular season. One's better. Yeah.

Fuck it. I don't know who I want. Whatever your goals are in life. Do you want to sell tickets or you want to make a finals and get butt blasted? You decide. Dwayne Wade or this year's version of course. Kauai Leonard. This is tough.

Who would you rather have? I'm going to Dwayne Wade. Dude, this version of Kauai is taking like eight threes and smack it in like 39% of them. That's fine. Have you seen 2009, DeWade? I'll take the superhero. I'll take Flash.

Yeah, I'm taking D. He really was a superhero. 2009 DeWade is a man amongst boys. Yeah. Yeah, I must forget, though, they went under on those screens. Oh, fuck. Then I'm going on Kauai. Pat Ben was right.

Pat Ben would never say it about Kauai. He would never heard of those words about. What, Kauai. And we have to listen to everything Pat Bev says. In fact, I'll go as far to say he's never been wrong. It's his error. What Pat Bev says is law. So I guess we have to go Kauai.

The last five or inside the NBA's and next five are Pat Bev's. Okay. What is he think? What about doing weight clearly? Chanty billups or Terry Rozier? Who gets more money? Terry. Terry has his contract.

Well, above her. to the table. TBD. Under, you don't pay no taxes on that. Oh, no, he's paying now. He's going to pay now.

He's going to pay now. He's going to every dime. I don't know what I would do. I'd rather be an accomplice of Chauncey Billups rather than Terry Rozier. You'd rather be involved with the poker games. Yeah. Yeah, because I think the way Terry was doing it.

He just operates like a wild man. I bet people made money in Chonsiebillips operation and got away with it. I think Terry just got him and his friends caught up. Yeah. Just dumbasses. You got like 200K dropped off in front of your house and everyone knows like what? Like 200K? It's on the ring camera.

Yeah. 200K. That's light to the mafia that Chauncey Bowes is rolling with. Yeah. That's the buying for every game. That's the buying to the first game where Chauncey's serving as bait. You know, we're going with Chantzier. Old school scamming, man.

It's a lost art. Yeah. Yeah, if you're going to scam. Go bigger, go home. Doing like a decent man. Charles Barkley. or Shea Gildes-Alexander I'm sorry Chuck

Peak for a peak Who is better MVP versus MVP I'm sorry Chuck I'm going I'm going to shit I think I go Shay But I don't want to make it sound so easy Yeah but they're both MVP's

I agree I agree And I think Chuck would be really good today As a slasher with spacing He'd be more off the dribble Less post up He would translate well today However

However However, She is getting Kobe comps. She is getting MJ comps. Charles Barkley, you're not them. And Chuck said, he said in 93 that the only person, the only time that he ever thought that somebody was better than him at basketball was whenever he played Michael Jordan. This other guy, like you said, is getting Michael Jordan comps.

We're going to go with Shay. Yeah. The longevity of Charles Barclay is still better than Shea because he's just getting started in his window. But peak for peak, it's not ridiculous to say that Shea has passed him up. We're saying just getting started. He's right in the middle. Yeah.

Yeah, Charles Barker, like 10 straight years in the MVP ballot. It's crazy. Yeah. Gordon Hayward or con canipple. Give me. Cohn Smokes Gordon Hayward. Dude, it took Gordon Hereat so fucking long to develop into an all-star for one singular year.

Yeah. I'm not going to lie. I look at the stats lately. I'm like, what was we hyping? Yeah. Never felt for it. Dude, people were shis. Jimmy Butler Paul George Comps.

Should have never been there. This is. That's also peak inflation. Shit changed. past few years? Yeah, exactly. People were shaking their ass for Gordon-Herder in the offseason, right? My team shake their ass for Gordon-Hawry. And he gave you the ass. Like, you won. Yeah.

Play the sound. Would you say that you are kinky? Oh, the audience is not working. You didn't go through. No. People were here the button you just pressed. Anyways, yes, I'm thinking. You're just going to hear it say,

I know. Every day of the week. Yeah, I agree. Let me see if I can adjust the hook. We're just us saying cute. I know we look mad weird. We have something. I do with a hook, too.

I promise you. We had something. Would you say that you are kinky? There we go. We were not crazy. Yeah, we're not insane. Next up. Kevin Lovers, Cooper Flag.

I was never a Kevin Love guy. Give me Cooper Flag. I was never a Kevin Love guy. Come on. I'll take Cooper Flag. You were calling Kevin Love a fraud in third grade? All the time. Year one Cooper Flag?

Bro, I saw him get that 30-30. I said, fake. Come on, man. You were a hated before Twitter made it popular? Yep. Yeah, I am going Cooper Flagg. I know that the three-point shot obviously is not as prolific. And so Kevin Love can fit onto a lot of teams and be a very, very good player.

But I just think that where Cooper Flag can do defensively, the level scoring that he is at right now, even without the three-point shot, I'm taking, I'm taking Cooper. I can't take rookie Cooper flag over peak Kevin Love, not yet. But he'll get there. He'll get there for sure. If he doesn't clear Kevin Love, it'll be a fucking travesty. You know, you could tell me, based off of his defense playmaking, I'm assuming the scoring level that he will take year two,

year two Cooper Flag over any version of Kevin Love, I could get there, but not right now. Yep, I agree. Last one, white chocolate versus Peyton Richard. It's tough. I don't know, man. I think, I think Payton. and Pritchin.

Step back. Clears. Oh, yeah, pump fake. Oh, oh, the return of the bullshit.

Don't do that again. So that being said, we're going Jason Williams now. He does know the deal. You know, he was in the NBA today. Sometimes lightning strikes twice. I need another edit.

I will say, yeah, Peyton Pritchin, he does. He is better, though. Like, he should win. Especially in the modern NBA.

I guess we can let Beesoles finally get something off despite the cringe, we'll have to say Peyton Pritcher wins. Last time it was Payton Pitcher for Austin Reeves competition is a little bit lower now. And like every time we get to the end of the quarter all the announcers every time,

you know, this is Peyton Pritchard time and I'll be waiting for him to fail and he keeps getting shots up and he keeps knocking him down. So I'm going to go Peyton Pritcher. There was a point in time it was getting annoying where they would just feed him the ball and he kept on missing

for a stretch of time. I'm like, yo, can someone else get the ball? Let Jalen shoot, I'm begging. Yeah, like, please, please. You got to give Peyton the ball, man. If he doesn't have it, what does he do? Yeah, good point. And that has the last one.

Oh, no, one more. My bad, pump fake. Oh! JJ Reddick versus Austin Reeves. This is not even close. Holy shit. What was the best version of JJ? Was it that year in Philly when he averaged like 18 a game?

I think so. Probably. There might have been a version in L.A. Where the Clippers? He had his most responsibility with that year with the Sixers where he was at his best. I think I'm not even thinking twice about it. Give me Austin Reeves. Completely different caliber level of hilarious.

Do you think JJ would agree? I don't know. I think JJ would agree, but if you said it, he might want to kill you. He would be like, in my role, I was better. He would try to nerd his way out at this one right now. I think he would be the first. Do you get it? Mm.

Mm. Awesome Rees never sold her the burden and being the most hated white man on the planet. He did it. People were hating JJ Redick more than George W. Bush. That is true. That's the company he kept. In 05. That's the company he kept.

Dangerous times. He was Mount Rushmore of him hating white boys. It was world leaders in JJ Reddy. Nah. Yeah, I think, okay, so I think in the NBA, I think Peak Austin Reeves is better. But if we're comparing, like, Peak Austin Reeves, obviously it's a weird comparison,

but like Peak Austin Reeves to like Peak Duke Duke, Duke, Redick. That Duke version of JJ Ready is the worst version of like where you are compared to like your peers and stuff like that Okay, like yeah, there was a gap. It's not crazy to say that It's not crazy to say that