The Delta Flyers - Armageddon Game

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

The Delta Flyers is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, Terry Farrell & Armin Shimerman. In each podcast release, they will recap and discuss an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. This week’s episode, Armageddon Game, is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, & Terry FarrellArmageddon Game: Unaware of being used as pawns, Bashir and O’Brien attempt to eliminate a biomechanical weapon used for centuries by two warring societies.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Production Managers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeill.Additionally, we could not make this podcast available without our Executive Producers:Stephanie Baker, Jason M Okun, Marie Burgoyne, Kris Hansen, Chris Knapp, Janet K Harlow, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, Mike Gu, Tara Polen, Carrie Roberts, Tom Paynter, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Lisa Robinson, Alex Mednis, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Nicole Anne Toma, Roxane Ray, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Jonathan Brooks, Rob Traverse, Matt Norris, Stephanie Lee, Izzy Jaffer, Jan Hanford, Sam Mikelic, Thomas Irvin, & Jonathan CappsOur Co-Executive Producers:Liz Scott, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Luz R., Dannielle Kaminski, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Elaine Ferguson, Captain Jeremiah Brown, E & John, Deike Hoffmann, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Jenna Appleton, Lee Lisle, Sarah Thompson, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Mark G Hamilton, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Mary Burch, Sandra Stengel, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlman, Darryl Cheng, Elizabeth Stanton, Tim Beach, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Tae Phoenix, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Danie Crofoot, Steven Lugo, Gemma Laidler, Rob Traverse, Penny Liu, David Smith, Stacy Davis, Timothy McMichens, Kevin Harlow, & Hailey LugoAnd our Producers:Philipp Havrilla, James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Ann Harding, Trip Lives, Samantha Weddle, Paul Johnston, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Carol Murphy, Jocelyn Pina, Mike Fillmon, Chad Awkerman, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Claire Deans, Maxine Soloway, Barbara Beck, Brianna Kloss, Dat Cao, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Vikki Williams, Cindy Ring, Alicia Kulp, Kelly Brown, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Dominique Weidle, Justin Weir, Jesse Bailey, Mike Chow, Kevin Hooker, Matt Edmonds, Miki T, John Richardson, Heather Selig, Rachel Shapiro, Stephanie Aves, Seth Carlson, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Annie Davey, Tim Neumark, Will Forg, Jeremy Gaskin, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, James Lyszczek, Greg Kenzo Wickstrom, Lisa Gunn, Lauren Rivers, Jennifer B, Dean Chew, Linda Daireaux, Mars DeVore, Robert Allen Stiffler, Jennifer Vaughn, Walkerius Logos, PJ Pick, Rebecca Leary, Ryan Mahieu, Andrew Cook-Feltz, Karen Galleski, Constance, Loretta Reyes, Kyle Freund, Cassandra Girard, Francesca Garibaldi, Andrea Wilson, Carol Ramsey, Willow Whitcomb, Jadzia Mehari, Mo, Leslie Ford, Travis Campos, & Douglas Lawrence-PlantThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark, and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, or distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at [e-mail] Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Greetings, everyone. Welcome to the Delta Flyers, Journey Through the Wormhole with Cork Dax and their good friends, Tom and Harry. Join us as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Deep Space Nine. Your hosts along this journey are Terry Farrell, our super science officer. Armin Sherman, our beloved businessman. man. Robert Duncan McNeil, our hilarious helmsman, and myself, your eternal ensign. And today we have Terry. Did you notice everyone had the same letters. Alliteration. I think was the fancy word

for that. Very fancy. You like the alliteration. Yeah. Love it. Good. I have a PSA. Everybody wear sunscreen. I had to go to the dermatologist this week, and he found a couple, you know, pre-cancerous spots sun spots on me that that he had to freeze off but I'm just saying PSA everybody wears sunscreen especially when you're young because yeah I'm sure you know being out the things that I do out and outdoors is why this got to deal with it now because you hike you bike you mountain bike frequently yeah ski you're an outdoorsy kind of guy an outdoorsy person so yeah Robbie's right you got to wear the sunscreen all the time you just have to to put it on every day because even when it's cloudy it's still getting at you right it's still getting

at you i have it's almost gone now but i keep it in the the little side thing in my car oh smart and i put it on my hands and my face every day um when i'm leaving yeah perfect because i don't generally wear makeup so it's like yeah it's like a no-brainer you don't think about it but you know your hands on the steering wheel and the side of your you get like tons of sun That's true. That's smart. That's really smart to keep some there. Yeah.

Do you remember in the makeup trailer for shows, they would often put sunblock on before they started doing the makeup? Like the first thing, they kind of clean your face. And then they take a little sunblock on a sponge and just kind of give you a little base. Yeah. I wore it all the time because I had, at the time, I had a pigmentation, hyperpigmentation. What is that? Oh, it's, it's hormonal.

You know, so I don't suppose men get it so often, but it, like, I had blotchy. Just like, uneven spots, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not just like a spot, like a whole area that would be tan and would look tan. Oh, it was terrible. Wow.

I mean, they kept me out of the sun. It was really bad. Yeah. And even inside those lights damage your skin. Do they really? Yeah. Oh, wow. And then beware of like a, a.

A sunscreen with the tent for people wearing base. There's less sunscreen in the makeup with the base than there is sunscreen with a tint in it. So you want to use a sunscreen with a tint in it. Oh, I see. I see. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.

You know what's interesting? I just want to bring this up. When we were filming Voyager and you were filming DS9, yeah. Someone had talked about that you had a, you went to the dermatologist and had a whole, process done. I remember here, is that right? Where they, it's like a, they gave me a peel to try to make it go away, but it made it worse. It was it like a, was it a, uh, uh, uh, an acid peel? Or did they sand your face down? No, it was like a gel. So it was like an acid thing. Yeah. Oh. Okay. I don't know why I heard this rumor that you had done that. And yeah. And it like made a

whole crack in the top of my head. And they told me I would get. Yeah. And I did it. And I did it over break thinking it would be done like oh yay i'm going to made it so much worse and i i always i took around a sombrella umbrella everywhere and i got teased all the time terry it's not raining good for you do we have birthdays we do oh my goodness yes shout out to our fellow thespian dominic burges july 29th happy birthday to you our good friend dominic happy birthday Happy birthday, Dom. I hope it was a great day. Happy birthday to Tim Newmark. Happy birthday, Tim.

Happy birthday, Tim. Happy birthday, Tim. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. The poetry synopsis for AG. Armageddon game. The harvester weapon was made to defeat your foe. But Bashir and Miles are the ones to make it go.

The aliens tell lies. and O'Brien nearly dies. But thank God he had his afternoon cup of Joe. Ah, nice. That's awesome. That was awesome. Oh, thank you. Thank you.

That was fun. Okay. Here we go. This is my haiku. My haiku for Armageddon game. Harvesters destroyed. Chief and Doc beam to surface. Cisco outsmarts all.

Wow. Nice. You covered it all. You really did. I did. Okay, I got a little one. Just popped in my head. Okay.

Oh, good. Go. Roses are red, violets are blue. I love Bashir, and so do you. That's a good poem. We like that. You win. That's a good one.

You do win. Our guest stars, Roslyn Chow, obviously, is Keiko O'Brien. Darlene Carr as Ambassador Etichua. And we call her evil. Did she ever say, did anyone ever say her name on the show? I don't even think anyone did. Because the whole thing was her saying, Ambassador Chirot and I, she would always talk about the other ambassador, but not her. If anyone said it, it was in passing.

It was barely there. I don't even remember Cisco saying it, to be honest. Okay. Let's go on. We also have Peter White as Ambassador Chirot. We have Larry Cedar as Dr. Nydrum. That was Larry Cedar. Wasn't Larry Cedar on our show?

Yes, alliances. As a what? As a Cazon. No way. I didn't know that that was Larry Cedar. I let you do the cast and everything. So, yeah. Wow.

The Kellorins have the single one and the Talanis have the side ones like that, right? Yes. Yeah, they're all Dr. Seussish, but yes. Right. Everything is Dr. Seussish. But the two bits of hair are the Talonis. Yes. And so Dr.

Nydrum is the one Talani side. scientist who's overseeing the harvester destruction, and he's the first one to get shot and killed. Yeah. He's working with Bashir. Yeah. That's Larry Cedar, a young Larry Cedar. Larry Cedar's done a million things, but he was on our show too. Yeah. I didn't know that. I did not recognize him. He was so young. There you go. We also have co-star Bill Mondi as Jacken, Jackin. I think Jackin was the the one crew member on the Tallani destroyer, the Talani, whatever you call it, whatever that ship was. He was the one saying like, oh, maybe they beamed over, whatever.

He's the one crewman that's the talking to ambassador, is all I'm going to say it. Directed by Rick Colby, Rick did a beautiful job in this episode. He did. Yeah, he did. And I thought the hair and makeup on them looked amazing. I thought it was really fun and different that they had that weird hair.

I thought that was cool. Love the ears. Yes. The hair department was nominated for an Emmy for this episode. Wow. Oh, I'm glad I said that. I didn't even know that. Their Emmy nomination.

When you see like the close up of the female, the Talani ambassador, you see a close up, you see all the intricate work. Braiding, yeah. Yeah. It's like a lattice kind of thing. Yeah. It was really beautiful. I was thinking that must have been a lot of.

lot of at-homework. Yeah. They did those wigs, obviously, before they put them on their heads. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot of work. But Robbie already mentioned it, and I had it in my notes. Very Dr. Seuss.

Very Dr. Seuss looking. It really was. Whatever that lab was looked super cool, too. Look like they spent a lot of money on that lab. Yeah. When I look at Darlene Carr's Talon, the ambassador character, I keep thinking, okay, Cindy Lou Who is her granddaughter, for sure. That's basically what it is.

Written by Morgan Gendell. Do you know that the writer of this episode also wrote the Hugo Award winning Next Generation episode, Inner Light? Oh, wow. So that's the same, yeah, writer of this episode wrote Inner Light. And the title of this episode was chosen by writer Robert Hewitt Wolf as an homage to the title of the 1967 original series episode, A Taste of Armageddon. So, yes. And we love his writing. Yeah, we do love Robert Hewitt Wolf.

So it's cool that he chose the title for this. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And did you know, initially, this story was supposed to be actually not O'Brien, but Dax. Really? What? Yeah. The original script was supposed to feature Dax instead of O'Brien.

So it was going to be Dax and Bashir on that. mission. It feels like a that's a bummer. I'll bet you anything. They probably gave it to call him. He probably had to go

and do a movie. They're probably going to lose him. So they probably flip-flopped it. Yeah. I mean, that would be my guess. I also think there's

an argument to be made. Like, if it was Dax and Bashir, there would be so much romance mixed up, it would become a romance story in a lot of ways. Whereas with Miles, with O'Brien and Bashir, it's a, it's kind of, yeah, it's a buddy and kind of what it means to be a man or a father or a husband or

it's different issues. It would have been a different story. And this is really only the second team up with these two characters. Oh, it's great. I don't think you watch it and think, oh, it should have been Dax at all. Right. No, no, not at all. It was great for the two of them. So the original Morgan Gendell, I hope I'm pronouncing his last thing correct, instead of Gendell, I'm going to say Gendell. Morgan Gendell's original pitch for this episode involved a federation team going to an alien civilization and demanding that they destroy their biogenic weaponry. However, the alien race encoded the weapon into O'Brien's DNA, meaning that if the

Federation wanted to destroy the weapon, they had to kill O'Brien. That was the original pitch. That was the original pitch, yeah. Michael Pillar, he changed it. He changed Gendell's original idea to the plot that you see now, where the aliens try to kill O'Brien and Bashir. So this is Michael Pillar's involvement in this episode. And also, Pillar told Gendellar, make it like a chase movie. So then Gendell went off and he watched the film's Midnight Run, North by Northwest. He watched all these chase films to get his head into

this space. But then as pre-production started getting underway, it became very apparent that this script, including all these new types of ships in this chase. type of format was going to be way too expensive and they were like okay too many ships too many new locations more exterior shots we have ever had uh we're going to go ahead and not do go that route and the joke was iris stepan bear said it became a chase movie on one set it's all my gosh the chase aspect was removed basically wow i feel like there's more history on this script than you've ever described before. It seems like it, isn't it?

There's a lot of stuff going on. Yeah. I like this story, though. I like, I enjoyed this episode. Sin loved it. Sid thought it was a great introduction to the pairing of Bashir and O'Brien because evidently, Terry knows this, but Robbie and I don't know this. Evidently, their relationship gets more and more buddy like as time goes on.

Yeah. Yeah. And this is, this was the turning point, you know, when Bashir basically kind of saves O'Brien's life in a way. but it's great because you got the englishman and the irishman yes exactly especially that part in the episode where o'brien or column impersonates sid do you get you remember that he does that british accent that little proper uh it's so damn funny i was like god this is great i love it that's very funny all right well the first thing we see is uh we see a space shot

uh with a chief medical officer's log supplemental so bashear's giving this log, which is very interesting. Like, Terry, I think on your show, we hear a lot more characters give logs. On our show, it was 99.9% of the time. Janeway. Right. But I feel like we've heard a few different logs. And you will.

Yeah. Interesting. Anyway, we hear this log. They're on board at Talani Cruiser, helping the Talani and the Kelarins eliminate this weapon, the harvester weapon, a deadly biochemical gene disruptor used by both sides during their centuries long more. So yeah, we cut inside a lab. There's Bashir helping try to eliminate this weapon. He's working with Nydrum, Larry Cedar. Larry Cedar. Didn't realize. I wrote with very cool hair right out of the gate. We're getting, we're getting a shot in this cool

Talani look. It's the, it's the Hoveville look. Are all the Talani's red hair? Is that right? They're all kind of the same tone of brownish. Yeah, they are. And the Kellorins are on brunettes. They're right. So that, okay. Yeah. Yeah, they're running a test. We learned from Bershear's test number 375. So he's running out of ideas. He's exhausted. We see Miles there drinking coffee.

I made a note he's drinking coffee, having no idea that it was going to be a plot point. It's going to come back. Exactly. But Miles clearly wants to go home and they run the test. It works. This guy, Sherat, the other, the Kellorin ambassador arrives. He's very happy, but he says, you know, we must destroy these stockpiles. and get rid of this once and for all.

And the shot sort of pans over at the end very ominously onto all of these cylinders that... It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work, yeah. It kind of looked like a gym with futuristic free weights. Like, you know... Honestly, I was thinking, I wonder what those things are really for. You know how sometimes props finds really inexpensive things

to make this look like there's something? It looked like PVC pipe or something. Right. Yeah, yeah. You know those things where they, oh, God, you see that you open it up, you put it a message in it and you stick into a shit. And it shoots, yeah, and it goes up to the other department at the bank. Exactly.

That's what I thought. They used to use them in mail rooms too. Yes. Yes. I remember they used them in department stores too. Like when I was little and my mom would go to Sears. Yeah. You'd order something.

They'd stick it at the, in the middle of Sears, stick it in this tube. And then you'd go pick it up at the customer service desk or something. Very definitely. Seriously? I remember going to a place in Atlanta that was an old Sears store with a friend of mine. And they had that on display. That old thing was still there. Yeah.

Part of the historical. They changed it into this really big kind of shopping mall. But they. In the inside. Is that what it is? Yes. Yeah. But they kept all of the old stuff to point out what was originally there.

It's so cool. What a cool place. Yeah. Is that the Sears you went to, Rob? in Atlanta, the same one that... I went to that building when it was a Sears when I was a kid, but that's not where I remember the tubes. The tube was in North Carolina, maybe?

Probably Maryland or... I wanted a food tour there. It's amazing. If anybody goes to Atlanta for a visit, you've got to go to Pont City Market, and you've got rent a scooter and go down the belt line because... Oh, yeah, we went down there too. So pretty. Yeah.

Super groovy. And they actually have condo. as part of that too. Yeah. I was like, oh, I want to live there. If I ever got a TV series in Atlanta, I'd be like, oh, I want to live there. I produced a show called The Gifted for a year in Atlanta,

and some of the actors that were on The Gifted lived at Pond City Market in the condos. I want to work with you, Robbie. Come on down. So off of the stacks of free weights, we go to credits. And then we come back in the commander's office, Bashir Miles, call Cisco,

on his laptop computer, they tell him they succeeded. Cisco says he already knows. The ambassador told him that there's going to be a celebration for all their great work. And Miles clearly is ready to come home, but Bashir thinks it'll be fun to stay and celebrate.

No. Don't do it, buddy. And Cisco sort of like not forces them, but he's like, no, do it. Take the day. Enjoy yourselves. And Miles is rolling his eyes. It's very funny.

I love how the camera just kind of at the end of the scene still stays on Cisco, and you just see this, you see this look on his face of pride, of just, he's just very content with his underlings. And it's just, it's a nice moment, you know, so it's not a dramatic moment. It's a moment of pride and happiness. And it's like, oh, that's nice. I liked it. Well, I thought early in this episode, the way, like, in the first scene when Bashir's walking, you know, pacing around that circle thing, and the camera's just kind of. kind of finding other lines as he walks around. I thought Rick Colby, this is great Rick Colby work.

He always used really elegant, you know, cinematic kind of stuff. Agreed. Yeah. It's the genetic bath thing that he's walking around, right? Yes, that little center. But it was nice because that set was so pretty. And they really made sure that Rick really made sure you saw it and experienced it. Yeah, for sure.

Well, we go back to the lab after Cisco's. office and Bashir's given the very last cylinder, Miles is there still, just as they put it in and it's the last cylinder's being destroyed. Suddenly these two armed Kelerins, I think they were. Yeah, the Kelerins come in and one is Tom Morga. Did you notice that? Yes. No. Yes. Yes. I'm going to say, I can't believe you missed it. I'm so shocked. You know what it was? Gawa. You're slipping, man. Gala was fooled by the by the, by the dark hair of the wig. You were just mesmerized by the hair. Tom Morgan's

a blonde California boy, so I have had tons of makeup on him. Yeah, clearly. But he seemed Tom Morgan's a tall dude. Those guys, okay, it was definitely Tom. The first guy, the very first one? The guy on the right, as I recall. Okay. Maybe the other guy was tall too.

Yeah, they were both tall. Well, they bust in. They've got guns. They start shooting everybody. They kill all the Talani. Bashir and Miles, of course, need to fight them. and they do, they win. Miles gets a drop of that, that liquid. Oh, right.

When that happened, I'm like, no. I know. What is that going to do to him? And I made a note, because I noticed in the scene that his sleeves were, well, no, that's later. Scratch that. His sleeves are normally up. His sleeves are always up, right?

Yeah, because it drove, call him mad. It was just like, that was just a call him thing. Well, if he didn't push his sleeve. up, he wouldn't have got the drop on him. So this is a PSA. Don't push your sleeves up, people. You might get drops on you. You might get drops on you.

See? This is what happens when you don't wear your Starfleet uniform. And we digress. We do. Oh, my word. Well, Bashir and Miles O'Brien, they win, of course, because they're our heroes. They shut all the doors, but everybody's dead on the floor. And then they hear some more fighters.

They try to beam back to the Ganges, but the. communications are blocked. They can't do it. So they use the labs transporter to beam them down to the surface of the planet. You know that's going to be bad. It's got to be bad. Yeah. It's going to be bad. Yeah. They're in trouble. But he programs the system to overload 30 seconds after they transport so they can't follow them immediately. Yeah. So they do. They escape. But we do hear a lot of you know, bad guys off in the distance coming. Well, there's more firing. You hear more firing. So who are they who are they already killed everybody so who else are they shooting at more like the secretary whoever was like the

everybody yeah at the desk you know whatever it was yeah I don't know but then they're all going to have to kill themselves that they have to kill everybody because anybody who knows anything about it's supposed to die yeah make your whole logic of just kill everybody that knows anything about it it's a little extreme it is I mean that's a little extreme I don't like them yeah it's hardcore. I like this next scene. It's a oneer, by the way. We're in Corks. Cisco's ordering

some yummy food. I have never thought of anything as yummy in any Star Trek episode that I've ever filmed. But when he started ordering Altarian Chowder, Ultabary Crapes, I did get a little bit of... I was salivating. Sounds like good. It's great. Yeah. And the way he says it is just

like a five-star restaurant, you know. Oh, yeah. It's just... It's when he has his velvet voice on. But it's like, Like how he said red and that she was wearing red. It was like, whoa. Yes.

Yeah. He's ordering the yummy food. But Kira calls right in the middle of his order, says the Talani ambassadors there. But O'Brien Bashir are not there. And the ambassador is not going to talk to anyone except Cisco. So he's got to cancel his order. His delicious yummy food is going to have to wait. And it's not just the Tulani Ambassador.

Keller in one as well. So they're both there. We go inside his office, though, and there's Sherat and Atishra, both ambassadors telling Cisco that Miles and Bashir are dead. And I thought, why are they lying? We know they're not dead. And they say that it was some security device

that Miles O'Brien tripped accidentally and sent this radiation pulse that killed everybody. And he offers Cisco this full data recording of the event to show him. And they seem sad, but that's all. You know, I felt like a Tisha and Chirot should have been a little more hesitant to give

the information out. I felt it was almost too like, and they're dead. Too easy for them. Yeah, it was too easy. Even if there was a little bit of a pregnant pause where Chirot, instead of saying it was a terrible accident, I don't know how to say this, but there was an accident. Yeah, just something was drawn out a little bit more, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Speaking of Shirat, now I'm jumping backwards. Sure. The very first scene when he walks in, he's like, congratulations to Miles and to Bashir. He's like, thank you for your help, you know, walks in. He reaches his hand up to shake their hand. And that kind of threw me because I feel like when aliens do a handshake, which is a very Eurocentric kind of gesture.

It's not even an earth gesture because people greet each other in very different. ways on our planet. When the actor went over and shook their hands, I was like, I wish they'd done a different thing. You're an alien. At least it wasn't the European kiss thing. You're right. Why would the Kellorin know to shake hands? Unless he did research on his computer about.

I think he'd have done this. Hey. Thank you. Which is applauding in sign language, right? Thank you. Like, I've just added something in there. Well, I think that would have thrown you more off with the hair. With the hair.

So between this and the hair, you'd be like, oh, I'm in the new felt. This is too much. Like too much. Yeah. All right. So Cisco's got the bad news. We cut to a planet shot outside of this, these bombed out buildings. Matt shot. The planet looks very deserty and clearly war is bad because everything looks distraudic.

Yeah. Yeah. We go inside this building, one of those buildings that the camera was pushing into. We see a bombed out bunker or something structure. Bashir is creeping through. There's a lot of shoe leather here. Like I was impressed with Rick Colby that he let the suspense of like, is Bashir in a danger? Is anyone else here?

Is he in danger? It's cool. Yeah, it felt scary. It felt like we were, you know, overseas in like Iraq or Afghanistan. Yeah. Yeah. It looked good, though. Yeah, it looked great.

Yeah, that's, yeah. It looked really good. Well, Bashir creeps through. He finds some boxes, some crates or something. Thinks it's food. Rations starts to open it. Miles says, no, no, no, no, don't do it. Don't open it.

Could be booby-trapped. He scans it. It seems safe. So we're getting the sense that, like, O'Brien's been, you know, in war. Way more experience. Once it's safe, Bashir opens it up and starts filling his arms with food, which I thought was hilarious. He's getting snacks and treats and all kinds of stuff.

He's a slim man. He needs to eat a cheeseburger. He has a high metabolism. He really does that we all envy. Yes. In real life, he does. If only we all had that same metabolism. My goodness.

Oh, yes. And Miles is like kind of grumpy. Yes. You're feeling like he's really. He's being affected maybe by this thing. That's what I was wondering about the drift that hit him, but he seems really impatient. He's like a little curt with Bashir about all this stuff. Well, I chalked that up to the fact that he doesn't really like hanging out with Bashir.

So I felt that that was just. He's had it up to here a little bit. Yeah. Oh, ready. Yeah. It's just like, oh, I'm done kind of a thing. So I didn't think it was the effect of the harvester of liquid. No.

It was maybe a little of both. Really? You know, when you're, before you get sick, before you even know that you're symptomatic with a flu or whatever you can be a little short like you just things are off really maybe it's a little I agree okay okay okay all right you sold me okay well uh Miles Miles uh is looking around and Bashir comes with all his snacks I love how his arms were filled like he didn't he was carrying all this stuff Miles says we're not leaving we need to hunker down we need to wait for Cisco to rescue us

Because it's Bashir. Bashir is the one that says, we need to move now. Yeah. And Ashton O'Brien says, no, we're going to be detected. If we start walking, the sensors will pick us up. We need to stay in one place. Yes. O'Brien's been through this before.

He's been at war. He's been on the front lines. He's been on the front lines. Yes. But he finds, O'Brien finds some dusty old computer, starts trying to revive it. And I love the bit where he takes the top off and he goes to hand it to Bashir. and Bashir's hands are so filled with snacks. He's like, he just sets it down.

I can't let go. He also doesn't Bashir say something about, you know, I could help you. I took extension classes at Starfleet Academy, engineering extension classes. I love that. And he also says, oh, to O'Brien, you love Army rations. Yeah. Yeah. And what is O'Brien?

Brian says Federation rations, not Talani rations. He doesn't want Talani food. He said he's had, he's had it up to here with all the Talani food he's had to eat, basically. For the last week, they've been there for a week. All he's had is Talani. Yeah. Off of O'Brien trying to fix the computer, we go to the commander's office. They're watching this video now.

Clearly a fake video because we saw what happened. But this video shows them destroying the last. It shows O'Brien, you know, deleting all the records of the weapon, which none of that happened because people were killed before any of that could happen. Then O'Brien hits something on the computer accidentally and alarm sounds. And then they're vaporized. Like this wave of radiation literally vaporizes them and their clothes and everything. They're just poof.

And the crew are in shock because we've got, we've got who's there watching? we've got kira we've got dax we've got odo cisco so our friends our crew members are just they've watched this they assume it's real yeah and dax can't believe that uh o'brien didn't detect it yep she's smart all of them have suspicions you know dax dax says yeah why didn't he would have detected this kira's like i want to talk to the security person odo's got seemed suspicious too yeah i I feel like there's just, they're just kind of shocked. Everyone's just shell-shocked at this point. There's no, there's just no one even knows how to, how to make.

How do we process this? Nobody can process it because it's, because if you watch the video, it's so sudden. Like, you don't even see a puff of smoke. Everyone just gone. It's just like, what? So I don't think, I think, no, it doesn't make sense to anybody at all. Because it should have obliterated the camera and everything in it. It should have obliterated.

everything you would think that everything would be kind of like trashed that camera would go blank yeah yeah yeah it looked like an editing trick to me yeah and it was literally an editing trick yeah but they're all in shock and cisco mentions he's going to talk to kako and and wants bishir's family contact so he's going to be the one to give the news right and he tells everybody you know people i know the next few days are going to be hard but we have to do our jobs, dismiss. So he's, he's in command. He's doing the hard job that commanders have to do in this situation. I do like Dax saying, would you like me to go with you to see Mrs. O'Brien? I do like that one line of offering that to Cisco, who refuses. He's like, nope, I'll do it on my own.

Yeah, this is my job. Fair enough. Yeah, we go back down to the planet surface. Bashir is bored. He goes to keep watch. They end up talking about women and marriage. And Bashir, I love that part. Yeah. I think it's really sweet. Yeah. Yeah. Bashir thinks that Talani women are gorgeous.

It's just, you know, always talking about women, which kind of bugs Miles. Like, like, enough with the women. And they end up talking about marriage. We learn that Bashir thinks Starfleet is not conducive to marriage. Even mentions, you know, O'Brien's marriage has been a little bumpy since they came to DS9, which don't go judge it. in other people's relationships, Bashir. That's a dangerous territory.

You see Miles get kind of angry there. And this is where we first see Miles get a blanket because he's cold. Yeah, there's also an important part here because O'Brien says, well, yeah, one of these days, you're going to fall in love with one, talking about all the women. And Bashir goes, I did once. And he says, it didn't work out. And Bashir's like, not quite close, but, you know, somehow marriage just doesn't seem to be fair.

And so they keep going into talks about relationships at that point. But he doesn't talk about details. No, not yet. Yeah. Then the cold happens where he's really kind of freezing. Exactly. The blanket goes on. Yeah.

And Bashir's suspicious of this. He's like, it's not cold in here. It's warm. Right. He scans him, right? Yeah. He has a tricorder, right? Yeah, he is a tricorder on him.

Yeah, he scans him, blood pressure low, running a fever. And that's when he asked him to roll the sleeve, right? Yeah. And this is the scene. Which is weird because the sleeve has already rolled up. usually. So why is it down here? Did he move them down because he was cold? He moved them down because

they put the makeup that they wanted to reveal later on. And that's why. Oh, right, right, right, right. But I mean, could we logically conclude that because he was cold, he moved his sleeves down? Maybe. It would have been better if we had seen that. You know how continuity, whenever we're

filming, if you're walking out of the scene and then grabbed a blanket. Yeah. Yeah. Or when he was grabbing the blanket. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. That would have been better. Like anytime characters enter a room, if we didn't see them put a jacket on or something, we have a conversation. Yeah, we always have, as a director, I always have a conversation of did they walk out with a jacket in their hand?

Did they, can they take it off when they come in? Will that match the scene we already shot? Like, those are details that are tracked very specifically. So the fact that his sleeves were suddenly down when he never puts them down. No. I noticed. Especially to reveal something. Yeah. We'll be right back after this message from our sponsor. Hey, Garrett, have you been traveling this summer? Oh my gosh. So much already. I don't always travel, but this summer's been insane. Trip after a trip. You've been doing your impersonation of me.

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It was a cool shot to open the scene. Cisco arrives in O'Brien's quarters. Tells Keiko that Miles and Bashir died in an accident. And it's just a very sad scene. It's a very quiet scene. Well, he doesn't really say it. She says everything. You know, he just says there was an accident.

He gives out as little as possible. And she's like, wait, something happened to Miles. He was like, yes, to both of them. There was an accident. Their dad, so she was the one that filling all the blanks and really. As you would. You know, have you ever gotten a phone call that someone you love has passed? There's just, you know, it's just a, I don't even know.

There's something about the silence, how big it sounds. Yeah. When bad news is about to follow that silence. Yeah. Yeah. There is a line from Cisco. he says, Keiko says, I want to see it

in terms of the security footage. Cisco says, I'll have it sent to you. Miles was a fine officer and a fine man, I'll miss him. Now, here's the deal. Miles O'Brien was not, in fact, a commissioned officer, but a senior non-commissioned officer.

Later in the series, it was revealed that even Nog when earning the rank of Ensign would outrank Chief O'Brien. Wow. I forgot about that. That's crazy. Yeah.

Well, very sad scene. I love the last shot of this scene when Keiko sort of walks off on her own. And it's on her face with Cisco out of focus in the background. Oh, that was a great, great shot with Cisco. Oh, so well done with her in the foreground. Very elegant and very classy, right? Well done. And Rick Colby uses focus a lot.

He used it on our pilot and when it redirects him. He uses foreground focus or background focus or he uses that as part of his storytelling in a way that not a lot of other directors in Trek did as well as him. He did it really well. Yeah. Here's another interesting fact. Back in their little hideout thing, all those containers and those boxes that they've been going through.

There's actually a Ferengi symbol. There's an Easter egg in there. There's a Ferengi symbol on one of the boxes. Oh, really? That's cool. A sticker bearing a Ferengi symbol. Ferengis were everywhere. where, especially war, war, I think it's a rule of acquisition.

War is good for profit or something like that. There you go. Well, it is. Yes, it is, sadly. We go back to this bunker. O'Brien's trying to fix the calm device, the computer, but he's getting worse. His eyes are really fuzzy. And Bashir says, sit down, just talk me through it.

I love this scene because Miles sits down, it closes his eyes, and he can picture what he was working. Yeah, that was really awesome. Colum did an amazing job. Yeah. He plays sick very well the entire time. I was very, very believable. And also, Robbie, if you recall Robbie, this is very reminiscent of our scene from the shoot. Oh, yeah. Where you are dying and you're kind of delirious and you're kind of like that sort of stuff kind of about to drift off into unconsciousness. Did I do as good as Colum? Did I do as good at Column? You did pretty good.

But Column had more time to show it, okay? So you did good, but you didn't have as much time to show it if that makes any sense at all. If I was even close to calling. I don't know. That was sort of like you built it up and then you gave him a left-handed compliment. Did I? Oh, my God. Okay, Robbie, you did it a great.

You were so good. You were as good or better than Colum. I was begging for validation. Validation. validation i'm begging for it okay we go to quarks next i love the opening of the scene it's it's dax and kira talking about what's going on and it's all done in profiles at the top it's really beautiful it's just tight you know profile close-ups with the two of you they're talking about uh dax talks about how bishir shared his diaries with her which is news and it was kira thinks oh is it all the

women he dated and dax is like no it's his hopes his dreams it was really personal stuff but then she feels bad she says i never read them she never read them and uh god such a sweet scene though super sweet scene i'm guessing this is very late this is late night right this is as if they had been talking all night because you don't see any background actors walking yeah it's very quiet it's very quiet yeah very much work arrives he's got a couple of drinks he says this is on the house wants to make a toast and I love his toast

when he talks about how they always paid their He's so bad here's his toast he goes to our dear departed comrades we may have had our differences but I'll say this for them and it's no higher tribute than I can think of

they were good customers they always paid their bar bills on time and Kara's like that's it that's it And he goes, I'm not done more. At times like these, I'm reminded of the 57th rule of acquisition. Good customers are as rare as latinum.

Treasure them. See, that's why this is so funny. Because when he says, I'm not done yet, you think he's going to say something sincere. But it's just, he's just elaborating upon what he's already seen. It's more Ferengi talk. But it's a Ferengi, like, I actually was moved. It stayed in character, but yet you could feel that he had real,

fondness. Genuine fondness for the two. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good way to put it. Yeah. In his own stilted way. In his way. In a fringue way. I love this scene. I love Dax and Kira. I loved Corks bit. It was a simple scene, but it was really well done, Terry.

Great job. Yeah. Thank you. Mm-hmm. It was great. Yeah, it was. We go to Ops next. Kiko arrives on the main area in Ops. Talks to Kira. She wants to see Cisco right away. And we go inside, they're all looking at the recording. Keiko says, freeze it when he starts to drink, when Miles starts to drink some coffee.

And she says, Miles never drinks coffee in the afternoon. And Cisco, Kira, Dax, don't think it's that big a deal. But Kako says, no, I did a spectral analysis. It is coffee. And I want to know why they altered this recording. So Cisco sends Dax to the Ganges. And he's going to find out what's up here. Yeah, she even points out the timestamp, right?

so that helps with the coffee telling us that it was afternoon and that's why she was oh she's detective this she's done so happy that she did that yeah yeah because that that was the that made all the difference in the world because dax was going to go pick up the ganges tomorrow but then cisco's like no we're going now and if they didn't go now there would be no o'brien or bershear left to go to they would already have been dead so perfect yeah i also think it fits the themes of because it is Bashir and O'Brien and not Dax and Bashir, and they're talking about marriage, they're talking about intimate relationships, they're talking about things that Keiko solves this because of her relationship. No one else could have done it.

No one else could have caught that because they don't know him that well. They're not the intimate part of it. Well, and we've probably seen him drink coffee in the afternoon. Yeah, yeah. Yes, that's true, that's true. Which it turns out he does drink coffee, but no spoilers. That's later. Yeah. Inside the bunker again, Bashir's working on that computer, trying to fix it. And Miles asked him about that woman that Garrett mentioned, you know, he brought up, that he was in love once.

And we know that it's a dancer, a Palace de Léleon, a French ballerina with the best arches in the galaxy. She was gorgeous, brilliant, and he was so into her. And guess what? Her father was going to offer Bashir a job in a hospital in Paris where he would be the chief of surgery within five years. So that would mean literally at 27 or something, he would be the chief of surgery. Like he was really young, I'm guessing already at this time, right? So that means that this relationship is not that long. Yeah, it's pretty recent.

No. Okay. Yeah. Wow. All right. Because we're in season two still, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Right? So he's like 29. Yeah. In three more years, he would have been the chief of surgery. He would have been the chief surgery, so 30. Yeah. Yeah. While he's telling the story, the computer comes to life, but the frequency is still fluctuating,

and O'Brien starts to come to help him, but he can't stand up because his legs are, you know, apparently. He can't feel his legs. Can't feel him. God, he's so good in this. Yeah. He is. It's tough to play. Yeah, you're really like, oh, my gosh, I believe him.

Yeah, I believe it at 1,000%. He did such a good job playing, almost died, almost dying. Yeah. We go inside the runabout Rio Grande and Dax and Cisco are arriving next to the Ganges. They call up the Talani ambassador. Cisco wants to see where this accident took place. And so he's going to go over there. She says, come on over to check it out.

So Cisco's going to do that. Dax is going to go look around the Ganges and see if there's any evidence over there. Back in the bunker, Bashir's working on the calm. He sends a distress signal, but O'Brien's in bad shape at this point. And he tells, he's starting to get delirious. He started like, you know when you're delirious, you start telling the truth. Like, truth's coming. He starts talking, going back to this ballerina and the marriage thing.

He's like, Bashir, you were wrong about that. You're wrong about marriage. Yeah. And he's got this great monologue. Yeah. Do you want to read that? Read it. It's so good.

Do you want to read it, Garrett? Sure. Listen to me, Julian. You're always talking about adventure. Ha, adventure. Marriage is the greatest adventure of them all. It's filled with pitfalls and setbacks and mistakes, but it's a journey worth taking because you take it together.

I know Keiko's been unhappy about us coming to the station. We still argue about it, but that's all right, because at the end of the day, we both know we love each other. It's a nice monologue. It's a really nice monologue, and he did it so beautifully in the episode. Column did it. It was really heartfelt and very moving.

Yeah. Yeah. And difficult as an actor to play almost dying and go through that monologue. And it's just a lot of stuff going on, a lot on his plate. But he pulled it off well. Yeah. Nice moment. Nice simple scene, but a nice.

nice moment. And we know they're, they're sending out this distress call just as Cisco and Dax are arriving. So maybe they'll pick it up. Right. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Back in the lab where all this stuff happens, Cisco's examining the lab. He asked the ambassador of Sherat could have altered this clip, the video clip they looked at. She basically says, we have been working for peace for so long. We can't survive. This piece won't survive if we don't trust each other. So no, I don't think he did anything. He's telling the truth. basically. Right. And that's when Dax calls and tells Cisco,

hey, can you come over here to the Ganges? Come over, I need to talk to you. So Cisco does go over. And good work, Dax. She found that part of the computer log has been erased. Five seconds, yeah.

It was actually O'Brien's request for the remote beam out from the shuttle, from the computer. He was asking, he was requesting the computer to do a remote beam out. And she finds it. It's Dax that finds that it was erased, this little log. And now we know.

Three minutes after the accident. Three minutes after the accident. Yes, yes. Good job, Dax. So they're alive. Smarty pants. What did you call her in the beginning of your introductions? Super smart.

I said super science officer. No, just super science officer. I'm going to add smart to that. Super smart science officer. Super smart science officer. So she's, I'm a super slew science officer. Super smart science officer. S-S-S-O-S-O-O.

Yeah, so, Dax. She is so-Dax. That'd be a new, that'd be like a spin-off, half-hour comedy. That'd be a sitcom. A sitcom. So, Dax. A half-hour sitcom. There you go.

Dax. Oh, my God. And that's how you're silly. So d'allie, guys. But they know that they were alive out of, out of the scene, And Cisco and Dax, no, that definitely they were not killed the way that the ambassadors are telling them. Right.

They've been lied to. Liars. Back in the bunker. Miles is really bad now. Well, he's losing consciousness at this point. But she's got to give him a shot to just keep him alive. He's giving him like whatever. The hypo thing.

Whatever that thing is. Yes. Where did he get that from? Is that a Toulani hypo spray? How does he even have that? No, he always has one of those, right? Even if he doesn't have pockets, they're always magically appears. The magic pockets, yes.

He's magic, Dr. Bashir. He's a jack of all trades and a magician. Yes, exactly. As he's saving O'Brien's life, he tells Bashir, Miles says, maybe you should talk to that ballerina. So Miles just can't get off this ballerina thing. He really cares about Bashir's relationships. And he must be really close to dying, having all of those things come up for him.

Yeah. Yeah, right? He's really thinking about love and relationships and the most important thing. It makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they hear a noise. Aitishra shows up and we think, oh, good. Well, and Bashir thinks oh good. We know it's oh bad. But, yeah, we know it's oh, yeah. Well, at this point, we don't know that she's bad. She could have been lied to by, we know Shirat's bad because he's the one. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely is lying. Oh, so as an audience, we don't know yet that Atishra's bad at this point? I was kind of like, I don't know. I think she's bad, but I haven't seen any proof. I was suspect of all of them at that point.

But, you know, we, well, how many shows do we do that we've... Yes, yeah. No, I think you're right, Robbie, because they don't... Because Chirot doesn't enter off the bat, right? It's a Tishra that comes in. Bashir says they killed all of the scientists, and Chirot then walks in. Not all of them, so that's, yeah, dun-d-da moment. Yeah.

But they show up. Chirot's there. There's a bunch of armed aliens. All the Whoville friends are there. And they're there to kill them. The hair parade. The hair parade. Yeah, I thought the Whoville people were friendly.

They're not nice in this version. They're killers. They're going to kill them because they want everybody who could possibly rebuild this harvester bomb to be dead. Or it's not a bomb, but it's a weapon, biological weapon. And they say, at least it's, for, you'll, you'll die for a noble cause. And just as they line up to shoot them, the commercial happens.

Yeah. Of course. Doesn't Ambassador Tishra do the old hand movement? Like, go or something and whatever. Yes. Yeah, and now, and phaser them. And so that's when Miles breaks the, uh, the tension and says, wait. And Titra goes, let him speak.

As if that's really important. I don't even know why. She's even saying that. But I do love that line. Help me up. I want to die on my feet. I mean, I said, oh, I love that too. I love that line.

That was great. That's like the final F you. Yeah, to the Tilani. It was like, you know, you're not going to shoot me while I'm lying down. I'm going to die with my boots on. I'm going to die with my boots on. Yeah. It really was.

He also tells Bashir when he stands up that it's been an honor to serve with him. Yeah. That's a big deal. That's huge. For Bashir, for sure. Yeah. He's why, thank you, Chief. That means a lot.

And right when he says that. the beam out effect happens and foom, they're gone. The Talani and the Kelerin are basically, ro-pro, they're really like, oh-oh, they're flummoxed. They're flummoxed. I love that word. Flummoxed. Thank you. Good job.

All right. Beamed into the Ganges, Miles collapses immediately. He couldn't stand up for very long. Bashir tells everybody that he's going to die in an hour if they don't get him back to the station. And that's when the Talani cruiser approaches. Cisco tries to send a distress call to Starfleet, any vessels close by, but they've blocked communications so he can't do it. Cisco asks if it affected their sensors as well, and Dax says, yes, and their short-range sensors will not work. Then they head off from there, and we go to the

cruiser bridge, the bad guy's bridge. Atishra fires a warning shot at the Ganges, tell Cisco that she's sorry, but Miles and Bashir have to die to ensure people for peace for their people. And this is when Cisco's like, but we didn't do it. Me and Dax didn't don't know anything about it. You're going to kill us too. You're willing to kill innocent people. And Chirot says, yeah, whatever it takes. And that's when Cisco hangs up.

He sort of turns sideways. Do you remember he's like, fine. And he turns like sideways. A very dramatic turn. Yes, it was a dramatic turn. dramatic turn. It really was. It looks like Cisco and our heroes are in trouble. On the bad guy ship, though, they see on screen, the runabout turn, you know, they're chasing it, but now it turns the runabout and starts coming right at them. It's headed right at their ship. They fire phaser

shots. The shuttle does. Fire phaser shots at the bad guys, and the bad guys return fire. Kaboom it explodes. Did you see how the phaser from the Talani warship It kind of like, it sliced open the hole. Did you see that? It went right down the middle. No, I didn't see it. There was no surviving it. No, completely.

Everyone is basically dead over there. That is when Ambassador Atishra says, let's go ahead and pick up the other runabout. And that's when Jackin, yeah, Jackin is that other character, says it's gone. It's not even here. And he's scanning a little bit more. They discover a warp signature. so it's gone to warp. And so now we realize, or Titia realizes that it's very possible that they weren't even

in that other shuttle that they actually flipped over. So this was the whole chase story, like that thing you talked about. Right, right here. Right. It was about 30 seconds on screen. This is the second runabout to be destroyed on the series. So the Ganges is number two. The first one was the Yang Zedong in battle lines.

and that's the very first runabout to be destroyed. So they can resupply, right? You guys, you're not like, we were stuck in the Delta Quadrant, so we couldn't resupply stuff. But you guys. No. I'm sure we figure something out. We had an unlimited supply of shuttles.

Yeah. We did have an unlimited supply of shuttles and torpedoes. And torpedoes. Oh, my gosh. So you have a shuttle replicator. Yes, exactly. Yeah, we clearly have one. that we didn't know about yeah wow that's a pretty snazzy thing to have on a ship

have you seen our shuttle replicator it's right here it's a cargo bay too yeah that's where the waste goes the waste goes the way the waste goes the way there you go we've got it figured out now it's not the food terry figured it out it doesn't it doesn't go back in our mouths to eat it becomes a shuttle all of our all of our it could be both it could be both no no no i'm not going to go with that, Robbie. Okay, let's not talk about that anymore. That's just so gross. So we know they escaped.

We go back to the infirmary. There's O'Brien. O'Brien is looking at this mug starts on the mug. It looks like a color me mine. Do you remember that chain of like pottery store where you'd paint? It still exists. Did it? Robby.

Did it with Max several times. Yes. You go get your ceramics and then they cook it. Yeah, it does. It might be a different. name because other companies came in and said, yeah, that's a great idea. But, yeah, exactly. Well, that's what it looks like.

That's what Miles is, to me, that's the first thing I thought of. Yeah. Oh, we, it's like a kid's activity. We've actually gone with Keeley in the last year to do that. So, yeah, it's still, yeah, in Calgary, they have those places up there too. Well, he's got this mug, he, but he looks much better. He's doing okay. He's recovering.

Kate goes there. You learn that Molly painted this coffee mug. with flowers on it for him. So he's getting better, recovering. Bashir shows up, says that he appreciates what Miles said to him. And he wants to return the compliment. He says it was an honor serving with you, Miles. And then he starts to monologue a bit.

Bashir's like, you know, the thing about honor or whatever, he just starts going on. Miles is like, okay, it gives him a look or something. He's like, needs a little privacy. what does he say there at the end he says uh he says julian he just says Julian yeah he just says Julian yeah it's Bashir gets the cue he's like oh or of course I you'd like to be alone I understand and he leaves love I love this he gives him a look they now have shorthand all he had to say was his name Julian and he gave him that look and immediately Bashir knew I got to go yeah I'm out of here they're having a bromance a bromance exactly the beginning of their romance yes is now

It's clearly more on Julian's side than O'Brien's side right now. But then the zinger at the end of the episode, obviously, is when O'Brien talks about how it was hell spending a week with Bashir. He never stops talking. You know, I wouldn't mind a cup of coffee right now. And Keiko says, Miles, you never drink coffee in the afternoon. And O'Brien goes, sure I do. Keiko's like, you do?

So it's like, wah, want, wah. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. And you know what? It kind of hurt my feelings for Bashir that O'Brien disses him with Kako. It was like, no. Well, he's not comfortable.

He's not comfortable having feelings, having, you know, affectionate feelings. So he just wants to like, he's more comfortable going back to his old self, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Great episode, though. I really enjoyed this one. Stick around. There's lots more after this message from our sponsor.

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Mine is basically where are your uniform of the way? it's supposed to be worn. Don't roll your dadgum sleeves up because that's clearly what started this whole thing getting on your skin, right? So there you go. There you go. Don't take a shortcut. Just do it the right way.

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I like that. Yeah. Really well done, James. Yeah, that's great. I like it. I do too. You left me speechless, James, because it really is powerful. and it's a powerful lesson from this.

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