The Delta Flyers - Body and Soul

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting... at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Body and Soul. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.Body and Soul:When attacked by a species that detests holographic beings, Seven of Nine downloads the Doctor's program into her implants.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, Kate Mulgrew, Brannon Braga, Bryan Fuller, & John EspinosaAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co-Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Daniel de Rooy, Chris Knapp, Michelle Z, Janet K Harlow, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Elaine Ferguson, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Kelly Brown, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, William McEvoy, Sarah Thompson, Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Adm. Bill "Seoulman" Yu, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Ashley Stokey, Lori Tharpe, Mary Burch, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Dominique Weidle, Lisa Robinson, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlman, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Barbara S., Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Megan Chowning, Tae Phoenix, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Bronwen Duffield, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Jeremy Mcgraw, Ali S, Danie Crofoot, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Michael Dismuke, Jonathan Brooks, Gemma Laidler, Rob Traverse, Penny Liu, & Matt Norris And our Producers:James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Ann Marie Segal, Chloe E, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Jocelyn Pina, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Matthew Cutler, Maxine Soloway, Barbara Beck, Species 2571, Mary O'Neal, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Scott Lakes, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Tara Polen, Jenna Appleton, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Jamason Isenburg, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Jennifer Jelf, Justin Weir, Mike Chow, Kevin Hooker, Ryan Benoit, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, Clark Ochikubo, David J Manske, Roxane Ray, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Cindy Holland, Will Forg, Max Wilson, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Russell Nemhauser, Lawrence Green, Christian Koch, Lisa Gunn, Lauren Rivers, Shane Pike, Jennifer B, Dean Chew, Akash Patel, James Rothwell, & Corey DennisThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at thedeltaflyers@gmail.com.”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, everybody, welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry, as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager. Your two hosts along this journey are my fellow Voyager actor, who also played Raymond Hahn on an episode of All-American Girl in 1994 and myself. Robert Duncan McNeil, your favorite helmsman. Remember, you can get the full version of this podcast by signing up to become a patron at patreon.com forward slash the Delta Flyers. Gary! Wow!
Starting point is 00:00:46 This is a new, this is a new territory for us, having you read the intro. It's very exciting. Oh, it is exciting. All-American Girl, that's the project I was working on when I found out that I booked Voyager. So that was right before. I remember this because I feel like
Starting point is 00:01:02 I feel like the first time I met you you had literally just filmed it or something because you were there for a hair hair makeup check or I don't remember that's right how did that happen I was cast as a different role a co-star role for the pilot episode of this sitcom which was starring Margaret Cho
Starting point is 00:01:28 the comedian. It was her, you know, it was her sitcom, basically. And I was cast as handsome Korean man number two, or maybe three. I don't know one of those numbers. I don't know. But they liked me so much. The producers were like, listen, we're just going to bring you back in our first episode as the guest star, as Dr. Raymond Hahn.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So a much more significant role. You're the guest star. Yeah, you're playing her boyfriend through the whole episode. And I said, so what are you going to do with my role that I just, you know, know that you just did it on the pilot yeah on the pilot it's clearly going to be me and it's i'm playing another person there's they said oh we're going to recast it which in the world of television sitcoms that's very rare for them to recast that you know especially with a three camera shoot for a sitcom shoot they typically don't do that so they were going to recast it and i
Starting point is 00:02:19 recommended um a friend of mine uh who actually worked on next generation tim luna bose i said Tim's pretty good to do this role. You should get him. He's actually Korean and he's half Korean and half Caucasian. So check him out. And he actually ended up booking the role. Oh, that's awesome. And replacing me.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah. So I got a friend of mine in on that. So that's good. But yeah. But I got to be honest, I was sitting in Clyde Kasatsu's trailer, who plays the father on All-American Girl. And that's when I got the page. And I go, Clyde, this is my agent.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I think this is Voyager. the information whether or not I booked this. Can I use your phone? And he's like, of course. And so I'm dialing my agent. And that's when he informed me that I booked the role of Harry Kim. And I had to get my butt over to Paramount for that fitting before the other day. My favorite part of what you just described was I was sitting in someone's trailer.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah. And then I got the page. Yeah, I got the page. That's my favorite part. I got the pager. Your beeper went off. You know what's funny, though, Robbie. there are people watching and listening to us that have no clue what a pager is so they're like what
Starting point is 00:03:30 yeah huh yes that back in the day everybody we had these little devices that kind of they would just alert us to someone trying to contact us is what it was yeah i don't know how else would you explain it Robbie you could you could send a message yeah you would dial someone's pager right and then you could send a message i think using your keypad on your phone i think it's You just leave a number? I think it just showed the number that paged you. That's it. I think it was.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Could you send a message message? I didn't think you could text anybody at that point. No, maybe it wasn't. I don't even remember. But, yeah, it would send your number that was getting paid. Yeah. And you knew, I mean, everyone knew the number of their agent, their talent agent. Oh, it's my agent.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You know, it's time to call them back. So, yeah, it was a Beverly Hills number and it was the agency. And I knew that it was them. And that's when I found out I was going to be hairy. That's pretty exciting. Yeah. Can I show you this shirt? Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:24 So this shirt was given to me by Sabriulu. It says, Sabriulu, I am your father. And it has all of their, thanks for giving us life. Because remember, I came up with the term Sabriulu to encapsulate the three. The three names. Sarah, Sabrina, and Luce became Sabreelow. And they gave me this shirt on the cruise. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I am their father. In Star Wars. In Star Wars, in Star Wars, phrase, I guess. Yeah. Very cool. So, all right, let's get to our episode. Body and Soul. You should know this episode. Yes, I knew this was the episode. Oh, yes. Okay. Well, let's go watch this episode, and we'll be right back with our recap and discussion of body and soul. We're back from watching Robbie's episode, Body and Soul.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah, I got to say, man, you had some interesting camera angles we've never ever seen before some shots that are super cool as I watched it I was like oh yeah I was trying I was getting a little more confident but I think the success was mixed for me on this in terms of my direction okay but it was a little more experimental and trying some things yeah that's what it seemed like you were trying some different concepts and different ideas and different setups for shots you know which is yeah always good because you need to try and push the envelope as much as you can. We were both wrong about the writer. Yes, we were. It is, the story is by Michael Taylor. The teleplay was interesting. It's by three people. And the way it was
Starting point is 00:06:06 listed, it said Eric Morris and spelled out A&D, Phyllis Strong. So I'm assuming they're a writing team. And then there was an ampersand and that separated Mike Sussman. So it's sort of like, am I right to say that? So Eric Morris and Phyllis Strong were together working on it. And my Like Sussman was on his own as another party working on this. Yes, exactly. Okay. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Michael Taylor had the story directed by yours truly. Let's do our poetry synops. Here is my haiku for body and soul. A hunt for photons. Doctor must hide in seven. Photons aren't so bad. Very funny. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Good. Good. All right. Here we go with our limerick. synopsis for body and soul here we go when doc is downloaded into seven things get really bizarre while tuvok struggles awkwardly with intense pond far doc gets seven pretty hammered rannick becomes quite enamored a new perspective can show how things truly are i've had to use all my strength not to laugh throughout that that was very good
Starting point is 00:07:23 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good job. Okay, onwards and forwards. Guest stars. This is my first time doing this. I felt so privileged and honored to switch this up a little bit. I know. Yeah. Okay. So we have, first of all, we have Fritz Sparberg. I mean, couldn't have had this, Fritz is an American citizen, but this is the most German name that you could possibly have. Pritz Spurberg. Spareberg. Spareberg, who played Captain Rannick. Yes. Very, very first credit is a 1982 TV movie version of Macbeth. Wow. He played Banquo in that TV version of Macbeth.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I wonder if it was like a PBS thing, like public television or something. Yeah, because I'm thinking like when, what, when was that film? Who did Shakespeare in the 80s? Yeah. So maybe a public access thing could be. Yeah. All right. Next up, we have Marva Hicks.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Marva Hicks played Topel and she's played Topel before and in this episode she plays the holographic version of Topel but yet still Topal. So three episodes of Voyager including this one. Her very very first credit was the soap opera
Starting point is 00:08:36 One Life to Live. Now that soap opera ran from 1968 to 2013 she was on that soap opera in 1968. No way. She was a kid. She was a kid. She was a kid. She was a kid.
Starting point is 00:08:50 She was a kid. Next up we have Megan Gallagher who portrayed the role of Lieutenant Jaron, who was not only the tactical, but the medic, but the multiple. She had all. Everything. She's the utility. Yes. Does it all. She does it all.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Her first, first credit is in 1984. She did an episode of a TV series, which you probably remember. It was called Buffalo Bill. Oh, yeah. Dapney Coleman. played a daytime talk show host. And so she was on that show at one episode in 1984. Now, interestingly enough, she also went to Juilliard.
Starting point is 00:09:31 She did. And so did her sister who was there at the time I was there. So I knew her sister first. Oh, wow. Melissa Gallagher was there at the same time, not in my class, but she was in a class close to mine. And I had heard about Megan. and Megan was already doing very well.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I think she was doing maybe China Beach at the time. Well, first of all, let's just say she won two theater awards for her work on the Broadway show version of a few good men. Yes. Okay, so that's what kind of put her on the map. And then she almost quit Hollywood. Los Angeles was so stressful, yes, because she just seemed, she wasn't able to really book anything substantial. She had a few minor credits, but nothing to write home about. and so she almost quit to go to law school.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Wow. And then right before that happened, she booked a recurring role on Hill Street Blue. She did 19 episodes of that, and that's what kind of turned her whole career around entirely. Yeah, so she almost left the industry. She's awesome. Megan's awesome,
Starting point is 00:10:32 and she's very good friends with Bob Picardo. She's, I'm sure. They're very old friends. I'm wondering, do you think Bob got her the role? I mean, did he suggest her name? I don't think so. I remember casting on this. I remember going into the auditions and as the director and casting the actors.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And I believe Megan came in to audition. And I knew about Megan. I don't know if I'd ever met her before, but I knew about her because of her sister and her sister work and stuff like that. So no, I think she auditioned. I think Fritz auditioned, everybody. Everyone auditioned. So it was a pleasant surprise for Bob Picardo to look at the call sheet and go,
Starting point is 00:11:11 hey, here's my old friend, Megan. Yeah. And I think maybe he knew. that she was auditioning. He might have mentioned something to me. Okay. But yeah, she was awesome. So Hill Street Blues, when she booked that role, that was 1989, she also went on a talk show. She was a guest on a late night talk show called the Pat Sayjack show in 1989. So Pat Sejack had gotten all this at a late night show. Yes, but because of the job, the game, you know, the game show that he does, Will of Fortune, exactly. He, you know, in,
Starting point is 00:11:45 pressed all the big wigs, the execs, to the point where they said, hey, we're going to give you a shot at a late-night talk show. And they gave him that shot, which lasted for one year, and that was done. But that was a show that she was a guest on. Wow. How funny. Megan Gallagher. And finally, we have David Starwalt, who played captain number two, the second captain, alien captain that we deal with, that Janeway deals with. And his very first credit was an episode of Lou Grant in 1977. Oh, my gosh. That's a long time. ago. That was a great show. Yeah. Great, great show. All right. So those are our people. Thank you for doing that. It's fun to go down those rabbit holes, isn't it? It is. It is. Okay. Let's jump right
Starting point is 00:12:27 into this. We start off, yeah, with this opening shot of a very cool comet, kind of going across screen. It's being followed by the Delta Flyer. We jump into the interior of the Delta Flyer. What do you call that back section? What do you call that area? The lab? The lab area. Okay. Back area. back lab area. The doctor's analyzing a piece of the comet. Yeah, he beams it into this tube in the back and analyzing it. Suddenly there's a bump. Yeah, he yells at Harry, calls up.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And we see Harry is flying the ship. Have I flown the Delta Flyer before this? I don't think so. I don't think so either. Yeah. I was pretty excited to see that. But Harry is clearly annoyed with the doctor. We can tell this has been something that they've been doing for a little bit of time.
Starting point is 00:13:13 and we learned that they are going to continue on this mission or assignment, which is, you know, getting under Harry's skin a little bit. So the doc calls seven to head towards the back area. Come join me. Come join me in the back. I want to show you something. Exactly. She goes back there.
Starting point is 00:13:29 He says it's pre-animate bio matter, the beginnings of life. And he gives this big speech about the beginnings of life beautifully written, by the way, I've got to say. It's an inspiring little speech. It is inspiring little speech. Yeah, about these primative strands of DNA becoming, and he's basically talking about what they could end up being, all these amazing things. And it's, it's a nice speech. But seven sort of rolling her eyes during this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Delta Flyer hits a few more bumps. The doctor is really annoyed. He calls back up to Harry, but Harry in the cockpit yells back, we're under attack. Bum, bum, bum. Under attack, yeah. Those alien spaceships are pretty cool looking. That's what I wrote down. Every time I saw them, I'm like, those are cool.
Starting point is 00:14:17 The color. Did you have any input into that in terms of when you talk to Viz Effects where you're like, hey, guys, it would be cool if you did this thing? No, they just showed it to you, right? They just showed me, but it was cool. It's so cool. It's so close to our modern day fighter jets, the shape of it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:32 To me, it looks like an F-35 or whatever is the newest. Whatever the newest fighter jet is now, I have no clue. They looked very cool. That's what they look like, kind of like a futuristic sci-fi version of that. It was hard to tell how big they were, too. Yes, that's true. I guess we see it later on's parked next to Voyager. So it's got to be, but at first I was like, is it a shuttle?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Is that a full-sized ship? Yeah, but then later, the Delta Flyer is in their cargo hold. So you know it's big enough to that the Delta Flyer. Yeah, so I'm assuming it is as big as Voyager is, is what I'm going to say. Yeah, it's a little bit smaller, but on par, yeah. This patrol ship goes by, it's chasing the fly. We cut inside and Harry hails the vessel and says, look, we are not here to hurt anybody. We've got, you know, peaceful intentions.
Starting point is 00:15:23 We're just looking at this comet. And they say, well, you are carrying a suspected photonic insurgent. Yeah. We're attacking. Yeah. We're attacking you for transporting a photonic insurgent through a hologram space. Yes. And it's like, oh, you've got to be joking.
Starting point is 00:15:40 But that's their deal. That's there. Yeah. But Harry's like, that's just our doctor. And they basically say, well, they shoot at you. They disable the thrusters. There's more weapons fire. You try to call Voyager for help.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But our communication system is knocked out. And then suddenly they lock on with a tractor beam. And it was a very cool space shop with a tractor beam because then this other beam comes in. And I was like, what is that? Yeah. We learned that it's a disruptor. field that starts the doctor fritzing in the back he starts fritzing and that's what that second beam was and they pull the flyer in as as the doctor sort of starts to degrade and Harry yells back
Starting point is 00:16:26 he goes seven you've got to do something hide hide the doctor hide the doctor yeah and so we don't see what she does but we cut back up to Harry and four look hereum beam into the back they've got weapons and it's basically Rannick and Jaron and all two other security people yeah yeah they head to the back with Harry but they just find seven back there she's all alone so we don't know where she hid the doctor and she comes up with this story that you guys didn't you it was you it was you guys who decompiled his matrix you murdered him so that's her story to the aliens yeah that's her story but she's acting a little weird to me sure is I was like that's not seven of nine And what's going on already, like talking a little bit like the doctor.
Starting point is 00:17:13 But they wouldn't know that because they don't know her. Right. But we as the audience know that. Yeah. Immediately we're like, wait a minute. That sounds like the doctor, but it's seven, something's up here. I will say right now that Jerry Ryan did an excellent, excellent job. So whatever you did to tweak her as a director, good job for you too.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But boy, she got the essence of Bopacardo. We're not Bapacardo, but the doctor down pat. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, she was great. God, she was so good. She was so funny and switching back and forth when she, you know, puts him back into his mobile emitter. Yeah, back and forth was great. She had so many funny moments.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah, I was really proud of her to be honest. It was great. Yeah. Okay, continue. All right. So basically they go back there. We know something's up. Yeah, she blames them for basically killing the doctor.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And then we go back out to space. Yeah. Oh, and also they accuse us of being of, of, of manufacturing bio weapons. That was the other thing that they say back there. Yeah, they talk about, yeah, maybe we're manufacturing bio, bio weapons. And they find the doctor's hollow emitter. And they're like, what is this? Yeah, seven lies. She lies. And she says, what does she say? She says, my portable regeneration. Yeah. I have a unique physiology and it maintains my cyber, cybernetic systems. So they're not quite convinced. And so they keep the mobile hollow emitter. And they arrest her. They arrest Harry. They arrest all of us. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And then we go to space. We see the decorum ship fly by. This is where I said, nice ship. Such a nice ship. I'd like that ship. Awesome. It's kind of like the Lamborghini of ships in a way. It just looks sleek.
Starting point is 00:18:58 It looked really cool. It's funny that we both felt that. Every time I saw it, I'm like, we need to keep ship. Yeah. Can we just, can we trade ships? Can we give you Voyager and you can, we'll take this one. That's very cool. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Then we go inside the LeCorm ship. We're in their prison area. Evan and Kim are being arrested. Do you think I yelled too much in that one? You yelled. I said Harry hits the wall and yells. Nice drama. That's what I wrote down.
Starting point is 00:19:27 You're okay with that then. Okay. Because I was like, I want to talk to your superior, right? In the opening of the scene when he throws me towards. And I wasn't sure if you thought that was too loud. No, I thought it was great. The only thing, I was like, Why do they throw Harry so roughly and then help seven step over the threshold?
Starting point is 00:19:44 I was like, this is weird. It's weird. Because Harry Kim is the Rodney Dangerfield of Star Trek. No respect. Well, you were fighting back. She wasn't fighting back. No. Oh, just a quick rewind.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Back to the scene where the doctor is pontificating about these DNA strands. I like the blocking there that you did. It was all over the place in terms of movement. It had some good movement. The only thing that bugged me at one point, he was, it was that weird, awkward, super close thing. Like, he was right on her back almost. Oh, yeah. And that was the only time where I was like, he walked behind her.
Starting point is 00:20:19 He kind of said something on one side and then walked behind her and came up over the other shoulder. Yeah, popped up that way. It looked like he was about to touch her back, but then he backed off. And so it was a little awkward in terms of that one moment right there. That's it. There might have been some force blocking in this. I think the other thing I think when I was directing it that I was trying to do, was move the camera and move the actors more
Starting point is 00:20:40 because I feel like... And you did. I think you did. Yeah, I felt like I moved the camera a lot. I moved the actors a lot. Sometimes it felt a little force. I'll talk about a couple of those places where I was like, I don't know if this worked.
Starting point is 00:20:51 But yeah, but I like the blocking generally for this episode, the way the actors moved around and were busy. They had things to do and movement. But in this scene, we see more of seven acting like the doctor. And Harry doesn't know yet, though. Harry doesn't know, you know, she says, or he, the doctor in her body says, you know, it's not as dire as you think. And Harry is just really upset.
Starting point is 00:21:19 He says, we've been captured by aliens and Voyager doesn't know what's going on and the doctor's destroyed. And she says, he says, the reports of my decompilation have been greatly exaggerated in a manner that is definitely a doctor. The doctor, and Harry's like, Doc? Yeah. It's great. And then, yes. Please state the nature of the medical emergency.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Seven, downloaded my program. So here are we, the cat's out of the bag. What I hated about the scene was the dialogue. Really? She starts smelling and it turns out to be my, Harry's body odor. Oh, I thought that was so funny. Yeah, and no for me, because I, I just think that Harry Kim prides himself on being, and also Garrett Wong, on being a clean human being.
Starting point is 00:22:05 and constantly showering and taking care of business, you know? And I just I just hated playing like the stinky person. Like I was, what was that in Charlie Brown and the Peanuts? There's a one pig pen. Yeah, pig pen. I was going to say something else. But yeah, pig pen. Yeah, I felt like I was pig pen.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah, you were like pig pen in the scene. Unfortunately. Well, it's all about, it's the story about her senses. First, she touches the first, the doctor in her body touches the force field. and it hurts and so he's like wow that hurt that's great for the medical my medical journals and then and then the smelling yeah the doctor seven let's call it the the doctor seven for now so the doctor seven says what does that smell i thought she was so funny yeah and then she walks around again the blocking i like that i had her sort of take this around the room and then
Starting point is 00:22:58 it landed with you in the foreground and her looking over at you and it was i i felt really proud of the comedy blocking. Oh, no, it's funny. The comedy blocking was great. I actually, I just didn't want to be the stinky one. I don't want to be the stinky one. And then I printed up a photo of that actual, a still photo of me sitting there and her over my shoulder going, that, that smell of like, that look of like, oh, I just smelled something
Starting point is 00:23:21 horrible. I printed that up to take the conventions as a photo to sign. Yeah. And very few people went for that photo. Oh, it's funny. I think that's such a funny moment. I, well, I thought it was one of the few times that I had any still photography with seven just alone. So that's what I went with.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But people didn't want to take that one. I'll buy it. I'll buy it from you. All right. I'll just, you know what? You don't have to pay a dime. I'll send them all to you. I'll just.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Thank you. You can wallpaper one with it, actually, if you'd like. But I do like in this scene that we do learn that the doctor is sensing, not just inside her body, you know, downloaded into her. Or manoprobes or cortical. Yeah, he's downloaded in there. Not only is he just downloaded, but he is experiencing all of the human senses that she experiences. So touch, smell, taste, all of these things they'll go into.
Starting point is 00:24:17 There was a shot where the Dr. Seven sort of touches her body and comes up. Is that your choice or his choice? I think, I don't know who's that. I don't know. Because it says, Harry says, and now you're in. control a seven's body and EMH seven goes total control it seems and and just stops before touching the breast area. Yeah, basically doing a joke about, oh, I can feel my skin, but I start to go down to my breasts
Starting point is 00:24:46 and I, and I stop because I'm, yeah, I don't know if it was, I don't know. I don't know. I felt like the shot was too tight, you know, with a hand on the arm. And then I think the joke, almost touching, you know, her breasts was not a great joke. I don't know. It didn't work for me. I don't think you, I don't think that was your idea. I don't think it was, honestly. It was either scripted or maybe Bob's idea.
Starting point is 00:25:12 We can ask Bob, actually. So, okay. But that bothered you a little bit, clearly. Yeah, it just didn't work for me. And it felt a little objectifying of her body or in some way. It felt a little 1990s. Yeah, it did. It did.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Okay. I did like the scene overall. We go to a space flyby next of Voyager, and we've got a captain's log. She basically says we've finished a maintenance layover, and we're meeting the Delta Flyer in 48 hours. So they don't know any of this is happening yet. No. They think everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:25:45 We go into Tuvok's quarters. Plum Tuvok. We're there. There's Tuvok and Paris is scanning him, but Tuvok is shaking and sweating him, and he's clearly not well. He looks like he's on a bender. Yeah. And Tom says it looks like a virus.
Starting point is 00:26:03 And Tuvok's like, no, no. Can you replicate this formula the doctor made for me? And Tom's like, you know, I can't just replicate medicine without knowing what it is. And Tuvok admits that it basically admits that it's pawn far. Tuvok says, if you must know, I am suffering from a neurochemical, neurochemical imbalance. versus like an imbalance and he goes it's native to my species and that's when tom oh this is the kind of imbalance that comes around once every seven years good job so it was funny awkward yeah i like when tom says maybe the meditation uh tuvac suggests that if i meditate meditate i can stay in
Starting point is 00:26:49 control of my symptoms and tom says well if that doesn't work there's always a sonic cold sonic shower which was funny. But yeah, it was, it was very sweet. And at the end, Tuvok doesn't want everybody to know. And Tom says, well, according to my tricorder, it's just a mild case of the Arcadian flu. And Tuvac seems happy with that. Yeah, he's satisfied with that.
Starting point is 00:27:12 So when you're filming this scene, did you have Marvin Rush watch the monitor for you? Or did you have Jerry Fleck? Probably, probably Marvin. Probably. I think I do remember when I, did these kind of scenes, I would I would tell Marvin, hey, here's what I'm going for. Here's what I think the important story points are. Make sure that I'm delivering that. And he would
Starting point is 00:27:34 watch it. But we didn't have playback or anything. So I couldn't see. I would watch it with the stand-ins doing Tom. And my stand-in or someone would do it with Tim Russ. And so I'd watch the rehearsal that way. But then when I was out there, I would check with Marvin. Yeah. Well, you did good job, even though you were directing. I thought their pacing was on point. Thank you. Yes. You're welcome. All right. And next we go to the Lecoram ship.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Oh, the detention brig. The brig. Yes. Lecureum. Lecureum. Lecureum. Lecureum. Lecurem. Lecurem. Yeah, we go in the ship. Seven or Dr. Seven is eating a, what looks like a cookie to me. Well, no. The first shot is of Harry.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You get the shot on me. And I bite into what. It looks like a bread roll or something like, or a cookie, whatever. And I'm like, I give the same face that Seven gives in smelling Harry's B.O. And I'm like, yeah, it's the worst. It's disgusting. Then you go past meat onto Seven. And she's like, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:28:38 It's a savoring. The Doctor Seven says, oh, I had no idea. Eating was such a sensual experience and is so into it. So that was kind of funny. He goes, he goes, feeling it's slide down Seven's esophagus. It's exquisite. And then that's how the Harry answers, they're prison rations. I mean, this is, this is jail food.
Starting point is 00:28:59 This is gross food. The doctor's never experienced eating. There's no Michelin stars here. No. And he says, the doctor says, when we get back, maybe you can program my, my, my program with a stomach. And we can construct a holographic stomach to store the food for eventual recycling if we have to.
Starting point is 00:29:19 He just wants to keep experiencing. Eating. Yeah. And Harry's like, look, let's just get to the current present situation and think about how to get out of this. Let's stop talking about making a stomach for you, you know. This is ridiculous. Jaron comes in and says, Seven, that she needs to come with them.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And Harry stands up and says, I'm the senior officer. If you're going to take someone, it's going to be me, which I thought was great. You know, Harry is really trying to protect Seven and do the right thing according to, you know, protocol and the official and all that but they're they're taken seven and at the same time i kept thinking why is harry volunteering to be basically probed by the aliens in essence like why is he volunteering but i guess he's trying to be nice it's the protocol yeah he's doing the honorable thing yes um but the doctor seven turns to harry and says ensign i could take care of myself and then as she egg this tells jaron or one of the guards my compliment to the
Starting point is 00:30:20 chef on on these horrible biscuits the background actor's expression on his face was like oh that was like oh my god like that reading so to to remind everybody i've mentioned it before but i had bob picardo i took my video camera in his trailer one day before we shot this and i had him do all the scenes where seven was supposed to you know where jerry ryan was supposed to be talking like him yeah i had bob do it in his trailer and this is one line where I was like, oh, I think she literally copied how he delivered it. Compliments to the chef. It just had the ring of Bob's line reading so perfectly.
Starting point is 00:31:00 You recorded Bob Picardo saying all the lines at seven, and then you handed that to that footage. They gave that to Jerry. Jerry Ryan, and she practiced, and she kind of got into doctor mode. So good job. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Smart move.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And no one told you to do that, correct? No one told you to do that. No. Like Berman. No one said, hey, by the way, you better do. this like this was your own initiative yeah which is a very smart thing to do as a director in this episode it was great we go to the shuttle bay we see the delta flyer in their shuttle bay and then we cut inside and uh there is uh ranic ronic ranic uh he's inside he's examining the uh delta flyer and
Starting point is 00:31:43 he's he's he's you know kind of uh figured out a lot of the systems of the delta flyer the Duranium Rearforce Hall. And he thinks this because they're smugglers. And then Seven's like, look, we're not, how many ways am I going to tell you this? We're not smugglers. We're not terrorists. And Ronica is like, oh, so if you're innocent, you won't mind telling me more about what this is. And he points at the replicator.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And the Dr. Seven says it's just a food replicator. And he thinks it can be used to create bio-weapons or something. And she makes a joke. She makes a joke about not unless you count Mr. Neelix's bullion, sous-fla. But then she replicates a slice of New York cheesecake. Right. He thinks it might be poison. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And the way she said, oh, please, sounded so much like the doctor. I love that. She grabs it. She starts eating it. And it's the best thing that she's ever, well, first thing with real taste, not prison food. And she loves it. She's like, mm-mm. But what I love the most is when she hands him.
Starting point is 00:32:48 She goes, oh, no, no, no. let me let me get replicate another piece for you she does but then instead instead of handing him the fresh piece she gives him the already the one she already took a bite out of yeah that i find that that was probably a lot of funny in this you put that in there i might have i might have i mean do you think jerry suggested that i don't know who knows that was a hard laugh for me the minute she gave him the already bitten already yes it was like uh okay so it's funny because we didn't do a lot of comedy on Voyager. And I do feel like these last couple episodes, like someone to watch over me and body and soul that I directed. I feel like, I don't know if I was consciously trying to put more comedy in or if I just happened to get some that had comedy, but I was really starting to find my, you know, Voyager comedy taste a little more directing these. Yeah. There's some wonderful comedic moments that I definitely LO LL'd out big time. Did I say that right? LOLD out. No, laughed out loud.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Very funny scene. After the cheesecake, they keep ordering stuff. There's a passage of time, and you have an awesome shot. You just pan across all these little dishes of things that were replicated that they clearly, they've had a feast. It was a disgusting mess. There was so much food and drinks everywhere. Everywhere. And you can hear them talking and they're laughing and they're clearly drunk.
Starting point is 00:34:13 They're drunk and they're full. And you end up on this shot above. Oh, it was insane. I was like, whoa. I mean, that was awesome. Yeah, it was a cool shot. Holy moly. So this was experimentation.
Starting point is 00:34:25 It was a little bit. Yeah, we were on a crane. We were on crane arm. So we came over all the trash and the food and then revealed that they're both drunk. Seven's lying face up with her legs kind of like. A skew. A skew, yes. And he's down on the floor.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And he's a hot mess too. Everyone's a mess in this one, right? Oh, God. So you got no flack for that then? No. I love it. I love it. Clearly, this is a shot that you had planned for beforehand. It wasn't on the fly because you requested the crane for that day's shooting, correct? Like, you're like, I need a crane
Starting point is 00:34:59 for this then. Okay. All right. I love when, when, uh, seven talks about, you know, my life truly didn't begin until I came on board, Voyager and met the one person that changed my life. And Ronick says, the captain. And she goes, no, no. And our doctor. Doctor. That's right. right the photonic that you hate he's amazing if you could have only known him ruggedly handsome with towering intellect and if he and i hadn't been colleagues well now we'll never know what heights we could have reached so i love i love the uh the drunk kind of ranting about how amazing the doctor is was very very funny and we see this kind of sensitive side of the captain too He's like, he's starting to, you know, fall for her charms and in his drunkenness.
Starting point is 00:35:52 My goodness, it was quite funny. She talks about her in this drunken state. She does say, you know, she needs her, the mobile emitter, basically, her regeneration device back because she's, she needs her regenerate. And she stumbled on it. Regeneration device. And then she says, as you can see, my, my, uh, My cortical implants are already destabilizing or something. So, blaming the drunkenness on she needs the mobile emitter back.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah, I mean, she kind of puts the stakes high. She goes, if I survived that long, and that's, you know, she baits him. And that's when he says, what do you mean? Yeah. But he says, I'll give this back to you if you do something for me. But we don't know what that is. We don't know what it is yet. We don't see it.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And then we come back to the prison. Back to the break. Yeah. I love this scene for Harry because, number one, we're not talking about Harry's BO, so I'm pretty excited. But I really enjoyed this scene because it's Harry seeing a super inebriated seven walking back in. And Harry clearly thinks this is just the worst thing you could possibly do was drink on the job, basically. So, yeah, I love the repartee back and forth between Harry and seven. And also, I really enjoyed your blocking.
Starting point is 00:37:12 You kept it moving as well in this scene, too. Yeah, really good. moving around. Eventually, Harry helps Seven to bring the doctor back out to his hollow emitter now that she has it. I loved your blocking of when you put Seven on put her face on the bed because she's like, she's so drunk. She's so drunk. She laid just her face there. Yeah. And she goes, you know, he's not such a bad guy that Captain Ranick, I thought, oh, this is great. So good. That was funny. It was a funny episode. A lot of funny stuff in this. Yeah. But the doctor is out of her body and Seven immediately feels sick.
Starting point is 00:37:45 and is really mad at the doctor for drinking and getting drunk abusing her body basically no consent this is an early no consent issue here. Absolutely. Yeah. She's mad. She is very mad. We're still in the prison and we still have the doctor
Starting point is 00:38:04 separated from he's already out but he's off to the side like Harry sort of ushered them to the side so they're not in view right? Yes. But of course in this day and age there should be security cameras all the time. That's exactly where Rebecca said she's like don't they have cameras in their prison cell like we even have them we have them we you see everything that transpires in a prison cell so it's it should have been recorded that the doctor showed up or de fritzed or yeah appeared after we put him back into the emitter she talks about abusing his body her body and harry says you know look let's get back on track we've got to find
Starting point is 00:38:40 a way out of here we do find out in the scene by the way that seven is aware of everything happening. So it's not like her consciousness. It just goes away. It goes away. No, she can feel, well, she knows that this is what happening, right? But the doctor's in control of her body, but she's aware of what he's doing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:00 But they decide that they've got to figure out a way to tap into their communication systems. Yeah, Harry comes up with that plan, right? So Harris says, tap into the comm system, get a message to Voyager. And the doctor says, well, deciphering, alien computers is not exactly my forte, but seven goes, well, it is one of mine if you can give me close enough while they're accessing their systems. So basically the plan is the doctor needs to jump back into the body and seven slash the doctor needs to, in essence, do a little bit of a spy mission to find out exactly what these codes are on the computer, like how to, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:38 get out of the situation. What are the command protocols that the captain happens to use? So these are the, this is the mission that Harry suggests. Yeah, yeah. So they, you know, re-download of the doctor back into her body. And now we go into the medical bay, the Lecoram Sick Bay, basically. Yeah. And the doctor slash seven is assisting Jaron, who is Megan Gallagher, and assisting with some kind of medical case or someone on a bio bed there.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Well, yeah, that person is, that was attacked by one of the. Photonics. So that's what it was, right? So Photonic has a viral weapon, which the cerebral cortex is attacked. So yeah, you survive for a little bit, but then at some point there's complete synaptic failure and you're done. So in a few days. So the doctor slash seven says, well, we need to synthesize a neural inhibitor. And then we learn that Jaron is not just like a medic, the chief medical officer here, but she's also an engineer. And she says kind of a tactical, kind of a jack of all trades. Yeah, because a third of their crew was lost to the photonic insurgents.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Mm-hmm. That's why. And the doctor slash seven says, oh, well, you really, you know, know your way around a medical bay. And maybe that's her true calling. And Jaron says, well, actually Emick thought that I'd become a teacher. And the doctor slash seven is like, who's Emmick? And Jaron says there was a photonic that helped raise her and her brother. And she thought, she felt like Emick was like family before the insurgency.
Starting point is 00:41:24 She doesn't understand why Emick turned to the rebellion because they never treated him like a servant. You know, he was part of the family, but he turned against them anyway. And then the doctor slash seven says, well, do you think it's possible he felt subjugated? So that was an interesting kind of perspective. I like that little exchange about the doctor sort of seeing their perspective and we get the doctor's perspective. But through seven, it was like layers of scenes going on. Definitely. Good job, my Jerry Ryan, playing all those different layers.
Starting point is 00:42:02 They kind of flirt by the end of this, by the way. It's a little bit of flirting. Yeah, it's. Which is weird because you know it's the doctor, but yet it's seven. Yeah, saying it. So Jaron is, you know, probably assumes like, oh, that's not flirting. That's just connecting about my family and, you know, and Emick and all these other things. So it was an interesting other layer of the scene, which was nice.
Starting point is 00:42:27 For sure. Then we head back to Club Tuvac. The medication is not happening. It's not working. It's not working at all. He wants to maybe increase a dosage. And Paris doesn't believe this is the. smart idea, but
Starting point is 00:42:42 what do you think of this blocking? Is when they walk over by the window? Yeah. Yeah, talk about this blocking first before you're going to the scene. So, yeah, Paris is still there trying to help Tuvok, but it's not, this medication is not working. Working. Working.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Working is another way of saying it. And Tuvok just goes, you know, maybe I'll just tough this out until the doctor comes back and walks over to the window. He's trying to just compose himself. and then Tom comes over and stands shoulder to shoulder with him and they don't look at each other
Starting point is 00:43:16 because Tom's awkwardly sort of suggesting like, you know, you could go to the holodeck and maybe, you know, take care of things in a holodeck sort of way with your pawn far. They don't look at each other, the whole scene at the very end. I actually love the thing. I think I thought it was great. I like that blocking.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I mean, are you, are you? looking, are you, no, I loved it. Okay, you're not critiquing it, though. No, but it was bold. You know what it was like, you know, when you, when you have any type of conversation at a men's urinal, you never look at the guy next to you at the urinal. That's what it was like. It was like two guys at the urinal.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Yeah. How about those Yankees? Huh? Great game. Is that what you wrote in your script, like urinal scene? Yeah, something like that. I mean, none of that was scripted. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Yeah, I know, I know. But I'm saying it was, it was a good choice, though. Yeah. But at first, you know, Tom brings this up. Like, hey, maybe you could try this. And yeah, Tuvok's like, no, absolutely not. I'm a married man. Right. Tom's like, well, it's, you know, I do have other skills besides being a pilot. I can make pretty convincing a hologram. Yeah, a replica of your wife. You wouldn't be breaking your vows if it's a hologram of your wife. Of your wife. And in the end, Tuvac agrees.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Tuvac agrees. He agreed. I'm shocked, but he agreed. He agrees. So we cut to. a cave, you know, location, which is obviously the, the holodeck. And there's Tupac romancing his wife. I wrote down Trek After Dark here. Did you direct Tim in that blocking to sort of start like... Nuzzle her? Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I mean, it looks like he's about to give her a hickie. Yes. He's getting into, the Vulcan Hikki. They're just beginning the, you know, to take care of business here. Volcan Nookie. Vulcan Nookie. And I also like this transition as they get into it. We cut to the bridge and Tom slides into frame.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And like, yeah, I did that. I helped take care of that. The funny transition. Yeah, it was. Tom slides into frame. And then he goes, there's a vessel approaching. They're firing. And suddenly there's a shake on the bridge.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah. Our deflector shields do hold. Janeway orders to hail this vessel. Turns out to be another look here. Patrol ship. And it looks a lot like the one that the away team. Yeah, an equally cool looking ship. And the look here, captain says, we've detected photonic activity aboard your vessel,
Starting point is 00:45:50 drop your shields and prepare to be boarded. And Jane was like, what? By the way. Potonic activity. Yes, yes. By the way, that's what they've detected because we're like, wait. At first I was like, wait, the doctor's not even here. And then doesn't the captain say something like shut down our holodex?
Starting point is 00:46:07 Janeway says, oh, we didn't realize that was forbidden. we'd be happy to shut down our holodex. I was like, in my mind, I'm like, oh, no, not right now. No, but it would have been funny if they said, a Lycum captain said, it is absolutely illegal for any citizen to be having sex with a hologram, with a photonic. Like, we cannot allow that. We're detecting that on your ship right now.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And then cuts to Paris's face just looking up like, oh, no, oh, no, oh, no. But yes, very funny. It was very funny. They fire some sort of disruption field like they did. to the Delta Flyer. We cut back to the cave set in the holodeck mid trek after dark. And suddenly, Tepal, Pelt, starts to, you know, stutter. And Tuvac is really unhappy.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And you needed a shot of Tuvac's eye, close up, just twitching, you know, just in just total complete, just like, what's going on? I hate this. Yes. We go back to the bridge, Chacote says, that disruptor field is aimed right at holodeck too they're so confused on the bridge Janeway fires a shot god and uh we cut back to well you tell Janeway you say it's Tuvok he's in the holodeck you say that on the ship on the bridge yeah and we cut and we cut back to the uh the holodeck and tepelle disappears and two vaugh grumbles and then
Starting point is 00:47:29 exits he's like up in the holodeck and oh my god mid romance but anyway we go back to the bridge uh The captain, the loquium captain says he wants to inspect for photonics. She says, you can't do that, but you can escort us or will destroy you. Your sensors have detected all of our armament, all of our weaponry, you know? So would you like us to attack you? Or would you want to just sort of escort us to the edge of your space? Yeah. Yeah, we'll turn off a holodex.
Starting point is 00:48:02 We won't. So he agrees. Yeah. He agrees. And then Janeway says, sometimes a little diplomacy. requires a little saber rattling. Correct. We go to space.
Starting point is 00:48:12 We see the Laquorum ship. I still love the color of these ships. I still think they're cool. Yeah. All right. So now we're back in Loquiram Medical Bay. It's Lieutenant Jaron talking about her father in his aeronics Bay, pruning his vines, talking about her mother, reading in their favorite chair.
Starting point is 00:48:31 So it's sort of another bonding scene between Jaron and the doctor, really, in Seventh's body. Jaron then brings out this news that she feels there's someone who would really, really enjoy meeting 7 slash the doctor. Seven, the doctor says, well, who would that be? And Jaron's like, my brother. Loden. And the doctor sort of takes your brother. And Jaron's like, no, you'd like him. I mean, he's ambitious, accomplished.
Starting point is 00:48:59 He'd love your sense of humor. So in essence, Jaron is trying to set up her brother with seven of nine, who in reality, is the doctor at this point. So it's a crazy confusing thing. But again, humorous and more humor in this scene, but another bonding scene. Rannick then calls seven or nine to go to the bridge. And we go to the Lechirum Bridge and Aranica welcomes her to the bridge and the lights are low on the bridge, the Haleon Bridge.
Starting point is 00:49:29 He's feeling a little romantic too. There's a lot of romance. Oh, God, there is. And this scene is exactly the scene that Harry Kim invite. seven of nine in season four down to the mess hall with the low lights and everything oh yeah this is the same thing and oh that's funny and harry's trying to get seven you know to get jiggy with it and here ranick is trying to get jiggy with it same thing although it's the doctor now it's really the doctor exactly yes the lights are dim he breaks out two glasses of synthahol because now he's been hooked on the
Starting point is 00:50:00 synthahole yeah but the doctor promised seven that he wouldn't drink in while he's in her body so he's got a refuse the wine. And then Rannick says that the Pulsar's EM field vibrations against their ship's hull are converted into sound and transmitted into the room. So it sounds like whales almost. You see this light. Yeah, but before that, you jump what happens.
Starting point is 00:50:25 After she refuses the Syntha Hall, he says, well, I got to show you something. And she's like, okay. And that's when he says, oh, take a look at this. And on their view screen comes up this awesome looking. It's a Pulsar Cluster. Cluster, exactly. But it's, again, it's flirty.
Starting point is 00:50:41 It's very, very flirty. Very flirty. He says our poets call it the window of dreams. And then there's sort of this wail sound. That's the pulsarsian vibrations. She calls him on it. She's like, okay, rapid pulse, respiratory distress. You may be having a reaction to the pulsars radiation.
Starting point is 00:51:00 We should get you to the medical bay. And Ron, I said, no, no, no, I'm not going to the medical bay. It's like, well, you know, you starship captains. you're all like you're trying to stomach you're trying to be tough for all this stuff and it's like no no no i don't need an exam to know what i'm suffering from and he reaches in and goes for the big kiss this is her but it's the doctor it's all very confusing and and then the doctor shoves him back yeah and he apologized he's embarrassed now and uh and the doctor says yes you were absolutely wrong about this and he he says i didn't mean to offend you it's just i've never met
Starting point is 00:51:37 a woman like you before and the doctor seven says that's because there are no women women like me and then storms out funny funny funny yeah really funny stuff then we go to i think uh the medical bay again yep right yes and the doctor returns to their medical base he's jaron again and tells jaron what happened this is the one where i thought the blocking didn't work i will oh the this is where the doctor comes back in and it's kind of going doing some busy work like heading to the shelves to get something i think and then i couldn't tell i was like then reached up high for something and it looked like seven was going to climb the shelves so high it's just i didn't buy i don't know well you know it's funny enough i wasn't really watching that i didn't i was listening
Starting point is 00:52:32 to the i was more in the dialogue you know which was you now learned that jaron in essence has feelings for Brannick, right? He's saying, well, and you spend time with someone enough time, you start getting any attractions to them. And that's when the doctor slash seven's like, whoa, wait, wait, you have feelings for him? Oh. And then Seven slash the doctor tries to warn Jaron away from that,
Starting point is 00:52:59 saying that he's somewhat of a letharia. A lethario. Yes. You need someone who appreciates your time. talent someone overflowing with intelligence and compassion. Yep. Someone capable. And that's when the neck.
Starting point is 00:53:14 The neck. That's climbing, climbing up the shafts. Oh, that's when she does that. Okay. And then she pulls something then, she pulls something then, right?
Starting point is 00:53:23 She looks like a little spasm. And so she starts kind of massaging. Yeah, Jaron says I learned some techniques from our last medic and starts massaging the doctor slash seven. Seven. The doctor enjoys it. just a little bit too much.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yes. Yes. And then the doctor seven says, you know, there's something that you don't know about me, something that I have to tell you. And that's where I was like, no, don't do it. And seven slash the doctor, the doctor thinks he's been, he's been had. Like they, yeah, he feels like he, Jaron knows everything. Yeah, because, because Jaron says, well, it's all right.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I already know. And yeah, the doctor seven's like, wait, you do? How, how do you know? And Jaron says, your cybernetic implants, your portable regenerator. Yeah. And finally, we realized that you're, the Jaron says, you're part board. That's what she knows. There's nothing to be ashamed of.
Starting point is 00:54:20 No. And the doctor slash him, it's like, whew. Yeah. Yeah, the doctor thought that he had been caught in this whole scam they're pulling. Yeah, we get pulled out of this scene by a hail from another crew member saying security to Medical Bay. Lieutenant Jaron answers and whoever is talking says, the prisoner is ill. He's requesting treatment by his crewmate. So Harry, Harry is, is, you know, he's faking a seizure. Yeah, he's faking a seizure. I love that scene. In the jail. And he's like, oh, he's, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:56 clutching his stomach and doubled over and. But I went right into my line, though, after the guard to walked away. I'm like, yeah, where the hell of you been? is what I did. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, it was very funny. Funny. Very funny.
Starting point is 00:55:08 God. Funny scene. Yeah. He fakes it. Yeah. He says, I had to fake a seizure to get you back here. And the doctor slash seven, calm down.
Starting point is 00:55:19 We're getting somewhere. And they download the doctor again, back out of seven's systems. Yes. And the doctor, seven is still critical of the doctor. She's like, yes.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Well, we're getting somewhere, you know, when the doctor isn't, indulging himself. So they're still bickering a little bit. The doctor is enjoying this? Kissing Ronick on the bridge?
Starting point is 00:55:42 Is that your idea of restraint? I love it. And then Harry's like kissing? Yeah. What I loved in this, so they start talking about kissing on the bridge. And then she says, and the massage from Lieutenant Jared.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And the doctor's like, that's entirely therapeutic. And seven goes, you became sexually aroused in my body. The look on Bob's, face. I've never seen so much acting enough because his eyes went wide. He sort of was like, he didn't even say anything, but you knew that Seven was right. They start to bicker a little bit here about Seven's like, let's just take care of business. And the doctor's like, this kind of
Starting point is 00:56:25 enjoying life is what it's all about. Like he's never experienced a sort of, you know, since these sort of sensations. They're not indulge. It's living. It's life. It's, you know, the air in your lungs, the adrenaline in your veins. He didn't know what he was missing before this. It's a great little conversation. It is. And then Harry ultimately says, we need a plan, anything with the comm system. And Seven says that she saw Rannix, the captain's command codes. So if we can get those command codes to Voyager, Harry says, we can disable their shields and get us out of here. And the doctor's like, how are we going to do that? How are we going to get it there? And Seven says, well, the subspace transceiver is on the flyer. Yeah. And Harry's like, send a message.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Yeah. Harry says, let's get on the flyer. So off we go. Yeah. And it's the doctor who says that I can get us on board. So he's thinking. He walks under the bridge. He says, can I speak to you in private?
Starting point is 00:57:32 and they head to the Delta Flyer inside. The back area, the lab. The lab area. She apologizes, the doctor slash seven, apologizes how she behaved before, asks if they can start over, drinks a toast. She lets her hair down. She pulled this thing, this shot behind her hair of like the, it's the syringe that she's taken from, she's taken the syringe.
Starting point is 00:57:57 That was what was holding her hair out. Oh. So she pulls that up. I didn't put two and two together because in reality, the amount of time that the hair department spent on her quaff to get it the way it is, there's no way that she could have just like pulled it off that quickly. So that was the syringe holding her hair.
Starting point is 00:58:16 She left her hair down. Yeah. And then there's some music and they start to waltz. And it's the most awkward waltz dance I've ever seen in my life. I remember, I didn't see this episode until now. And so I was on the floor watching this awkward waltz scene. It was so great. Whether it's seven or the doctor dancing, it would be awkward and totally leading the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And then the captain is called to the bridge. He tries to leave. The doctor slash seven like, nope, spins him around, doesn't let him leave, sort of spins him into a hold and then jabs that sedative into his neck. Yeah. knocking him out and uh yeah it was very funny it was we go back to the voyager bridge i think after this and uh i love janeway talking to vok by his station he's he's back at a station she says um you know she she uh knows basically she says she knows what's going on um no but she doesn't well first she says i appreciate your sense of duty toovac but we can handle it and he
Starting point is 00:59:27 says, my illness is in the early stages. I can control it. And she says, you know, if I remember correctly last time, you came down with the Tarkhalian flu was seven years ago. Oh, so she did do that? A little quotation. She didn't do that. She didn't do it literally, but she's sort of putting it together here. Ah. So she does kind of figure out in the scene. Yeah. And then Nealik shows. And she says, hey, the holodex at your disposal. So she knows. She and Tom are on the same page. She's on the same page.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Neelix is not on the same page. No, he's not. No. He has made some, I think, what did he make? Some suit or something? Yeah, it was. Something in a bowl. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:14 His grandmother's recipe to help even the most stubborn flu. Yeah. And Tuvok doesn't smell any thing. I love Neelix. Exactly. I prepared it how you like it. No herbs or spices of any. kind.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Practically tasteless. And then we get a hail. Yeah, from the flyer. From the flyer, it's seven. With her hair down. Yeah, with her hair down. It's really the doctor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And acting like the doctor says we're being held prisoner in the Lakirum patrol ship. Yeah. And I'm sending over our location and the command codes to disable their shields. And Janeway says, are the doctor in Harry all right? the doctor seven says ensign chem is as usual chip herself as for me i'm looking forward to a long uneventful shipped in sick bay that's when jane was like wait doctor and the doctor seven goes it's a long story captain yeah so this is where they realize they may be in more trouble than they
Starting point is 01:01:16 they thought yeah yeah so we're still with this escort out of their sector when janeway says you know what let's let's let's get rid of these get rid of these guys target their power matrix. We got to make this shot count, direct hit, says Tuvok, and we take off, Max. We're out of there. Ronik is lying on the biobed now, so we're back in that medical bay. Jaron's not, Darren doesn't know what's going on, just like what's happening with them. And Seven's like, well, apparently Rannick has never, Rannick has had very low tolerance
Starting point is 01:01:49 to Synthol, lower than my low tolerance for Syntholol. And Jaron's like, well, that doesn't really sound like Rannick. And Seven's like, well, it's probably something he would not admit to his crew. Right. You should probably keep this between us. Then Ranick wakes up. Yeah, Jaron revives him. Jaron revives him.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And he orders the doctor slash seven to be arrested or seized here. And then they hear that Voyager is detected on their scanners. Voyager's approaching. So they head to the bridge. And then he says, bring her along. I want her where I can see. her. Yeah. And I wrote down, that sounds risky. Like, why wouldn't you put somebody who just like outsmarted you? Why wouldn't you put them in jail? In the brig, but. But also I felt
Starting point is 01:02:39 that was because he still had a crush on her. Maybe. Possibly. Yeah. So they bring seven slash doctor along with a guard. And we go out to a space flyby. This is Voyager. This is a CG ship. This is not our old models that they used to use. model shot. This was a CG ship. It looked pretty cool. It did some kind of cool banking turn. Yeah, it was. We go to the Voyager Bridge. We open a channel. And just before we open a channel, Janeway says, stand by with those command codes to Chakotay. So she's going to try to talk to them, but if not, she's going to use their secret information. Janeway says, you know, she tells Rannick, we don't want to fight you just return our people and we will be on our way and ranic is pissed off
Starting point is 01:03:30 he's like they were transporting photo photonic insurgents and biogenic material and jane was like we will disable you guys um she turns to chokote gives him a nod and he enters those loquiram command codes back on the bridge or the loquium bridge they uh They start to lose their ventral shield grid. Rannick says compensate, but Jaron says they've tapped into our shield matrix. They're using your command authorization. And then we go back to our bridge, and Chakotis is like, wait a minute, they're rerouting their power to their warp matrix. And then Captain Rannick says, okay, if you fire on us, you will trigger a core breach and all of your people will be killed.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Along with us. so with us so he basically goes all in he goes all in checkmate janeway ends the transmission and she orders a tractor beam rannick says full reverse target their emitters and of course they do break free of our tractor beam janeway says chukotay can you set a calm signal directly to seven's cortical node and he's like oh yeah i can do this so seven is receiving a message from janeway and janeway's saying doctor if you can hear me we need your help try to disable their shields. And that's when 7 quickly download the EMH into the mobile emitter,
Starting point is 01:05:00 which then causes confusion amongst everybody because now they're a photonic here, right? She knocks the guard down. All mayhem breaks loose at this point. And the doctor says... She does a quick disarm and a face punch to the... She grabs the guy's weapon, face punches him. Hands it to the doctor, right? Yeah, hands it to the doctor.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I love when at first she does the move and then the doctor runs and hides behind her. Bob ran and hid behind Jerry Ryan. It was funny. And then seven gives this weapon to the doctor and says, hold them here. I'm going to work on the shield controls. And the doctor takes the gun,
Starting point is 01:05:39 but he's like holding it funny. He's very nervous with this weapon. And he gets it taken away from him. Yeah. He does say to them, I'm not afraid to use this. but he's terrified to use it. And he has jumped the guard and Rannick sort of double jump him, overpower him and disarm him.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Rannick fires near seven, but he doesn't shoot her, which is, to me, was a sign of like, oh, he still cares about her. Yeah, because he could have shot her easily. What Jaron says is like, look, seven or she just destabilize the shield grid. It's failing. And Ronick says, you know, watch them, but seven says, look, If you try to re-initialize the grid, it's going to overload. Don't do this.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Renick doesn't listen. And the panel explodes. Yeah, he does it anyway. And there's significant injury on Renick's face. I mean, it just looks like part of his face is gone. That explosion, by the way, was like a lot of styrofoam. You know, we used to use like styrofoam debris and stuff. It felt like a little too much.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Too much? Okay. You felt like it could have been dialed down. So from zero to 10, how much, how much explosion? was that was that was like an eight okay and what would you have doubted down too then five okay so yeah about 20% less but i think that when i directed this i remember feeling like often we don't have enough in these action moments i was like let's make sure let's make it big and i think i went a little too big okay all right jaren says stay back and the doctor slash seven drops down well no just the doctor
Starting point is 01:07:13 no just the doctor at this point because i'm a doctor let me help and so back on voyager Tuvok says their shields are down and we have a lock and Janeway says, away team, stand by for transport. Then we go back to the Lockeum Bridge and the doctor says, no, no, no, no, captain, I've got injured here. I can't leave. This man will die without immediate immediate surgery. And then he says to Rannick, he says, I know it's hard for you to understand, but I am the person that you've been getting to know the last few days. And so this is amazing because he's a photonic. Rannick has, you know, they're very biased, obviously, against photonics, but he's saying,
Starting point is 01:07:53 I'm a photonic and I have been getting to know you. The doctor says to Jaron, I know you have feeling for Rannick, but if he dies, you're never going to forgive yourself. Yeah. And, yeah. So clearly she lets him work on him at that point, right? Yeah. And then we go to the Lockehran Medical Bay.
Starting point is 01:08:14 the doctor has stabilized Rannick. He's repaired all his wounds. He's totally back to normal again, basically, right? Yep. And yeah, he's in full health. And he basically says, despite his bias against photonics, that he's very grateful the doctor saved his life. Ranick feels a little awkward about kissing the doctor.
Starting point is 01:08:42 And then the doctor tries to be, matchmaker here. And he talks about, you know, there are other women who might appreciate you. I'm just not one of them. And Jaron thanks them, says goodbye. The doctor says to them. I don't know if this experience will change your opinion of photonics, but I hope it's a start. And it's very sweet. Yeah. Very sweet. It is. Yeah. And then we go to a hallway and back on Voyager and we see Paris and Tuvok Has this ever happened before? Has there ever been a Paris Tuvac Walk and Talk? Well, here's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Not really. Paris Tuvac Walk and Talk. Here's the other thing. I did this on a long lens instead of the usual. Usually we do this on a dolly or steady can. And I don't know if you noticed, but it was a very long lens where Tuvac came around one corner. I came around another. And we kind of walked into a tighter.
Starting point is 01:09:40 To gather into a tighter show. Oh, cool. yeah but it was a it was a long lens shot in a hallway which we never did yeah so great it did the show feel much more in my opinion cinematic and not the typical kind of medium shot walking down the hallway with yeah it's great yeah it was very cool i liked it toovac does say his condition has passed he's fully recovered and thanks paris for his help paris goes don't mention it i just hope everything was okay Tuvok says, not exactly. My wife's ears are four millimeter shorter than your facsimile. Yeah, I made her ears. Her ears were too big.
Starting point is 01:10:17 He totally called you on that. It's like so funny. Yeah. And Paris goes, well, I took a little artistic license. I'm like, does he think that Vulcans like bigger ears? Like, that's a frangy thing, isn't it? It's a sexy thing. Exactly. Oh, my God. But Tuvok says it was, it was adequate but it's no substitute for my real wife and it's a nice moment because it is like yeah i get that like it was very sincere and sweet yeah i like that little scene we go back to our last scene in sick bay there's the doctor at his desk he's he's it is the it was the most seven walks in behind him he doesn't see her but he hears someone walk in and he says please state the nature of
Starting point is 01:11:03 the medical emergency but it was the most depressed version of that line i'd ever heard. Please state the nature of the medical emergency. It was great. I loved hearing like a different version of that line. It was great. Yeah. She's brought in a tray of earth culinary indulgences. Yeah. That was what they were arguing about, you know. And she's, she's going to eat this with him and describe it to him so he can continue to enjoy you know the senses the sense of eating i love when he says to her he goes oh the mess hall is three decks up in case you've forgotten i've lost my appetite permanently which was it was with a funny line to me where that was in this oh yes yes that was in the final she comes in with the food and he's
Starting point is 01:11:55 like the mess hall's three decks up in case you've forgotten i've lost my appetite permanently yeah those are good lines for sure yeah and there's another good line at the end when when the doctor says, well, what about the wine? It doesn't exactly agree with you. She goes, well, if I become sick, I won't have to go far. I'm already in sick place, so. Yeah. Cute.
Starting point is 01:12:18 There's a cute scene. Yeah, it's a nice little cute button scene there. All right. So what is your lesson out of all this craziness? My lesson is sometimes seeing things through someone else's eyes can teach you a lot. To walk in someone else's shoes. you can learn a lot about life. So it's very true.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah, that's my lesson. What about you? Mine's more about, mine is more about, try to take the time to experience life instead of rushing through it because there's that whole scene about, you know, when the doctor first starts eating the cheesecake
Starting point is 01:12:57 and the other food and it's just like, oh my gosh. And that's, you know, that's just something that reminds me of a dinner I had with my uncle. And I was eating the food. quickly. He's like, you know, the only time that you actually get to taste the food is while you're chewing it in your mouth like that. Enjoy the taste of this food. What are you gulping it down for? You're eating in like, I mean, that's typically the way a dog will eat food. It just swallows and everything so quickly. And you don't need to do that. So really just the lesson here is
Starting point is 01:13:27 just slow down, slow down, take the time to enjoy the experience that we call life. You know, whether it be eating something, drinking something, attending a concert. reading a book just enjoy it don't rush uh what's your rating on this episode i'm going to give it i'm going to give it a i'll give it a high seven so 7.9 just below 8 yeah wow that's what i give it um what i am this is crazy okay you i rated this i just pulled up the admiral's rating I have my rating here. So my rating is an eight. I gave this an eight because I thought it was really fun,
Starting point is 01:14:11 even though I know I directed it. There were some imperfections, but overall it was a really great episode. I gave it a eight. You give it a 7.9? The Admiral and Captain's average rating for body and soul is eight. Bam. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Bam. We're right there. We're both right there. Yeah, we're both right there. Exactly. And the admirals are right there with us. Yeah. Yeah, this was a fun episode. It was. It was. I'm glad I watched this one. Well, thank you, everyone, for tuning in to this week's episode.
Starting point is 01:14:45 And tune in next week when Robbie and I will be discussing recapping the episode Nightingale. See you then. See you then. Thanks, everybody. Thanks. You know, I'm trying to I'm going to be I'm going to be
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