The Delta Flyers - Displaced

Episode Date: August 2, 2021

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch and recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang and Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Displaced. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.Displaced:Voyager crew members begin disappearing one by one, being replaced by aliens.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise and Rebecca McNeill, and our Post Producer Jessey Miller.And a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, and Tim Russ.Additionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co- Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Kelton Rochelle, Liz Scott, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Chris Knapp, Michelle Zamanian, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Elaine Ferguson, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, James Zugg, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, William McEvoy, Sarah Thompson, Holly Smith, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Amber Eason, Lucas Shuck, Mary Burch, PJ Tomas, Nicholaus Russell, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Tim Beach, Ariana, Marcus Vanderzonbrouwer, Nathan Walker, Shambhavi Kadam, and Christopher ArzebergerAnd our Producers:Chris Tribuzio, Jim Guckin, Steph Dawe Holland, James Amey, Katherine Hedrick, Eleanor Lamb, Richard Banaski, Eve England, Ann Harding, Laura Swanson, Ann Marie Segal, Charity Ponton, Chloe E, Kathleen Baxter, Craig Sweaton, Nathanial Moon, Warren Stine, Mike Schaible, Kelley Smelser, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Matthew Cutler, Crystal Komenda, Maxine Soloway, Joshua L Phillips, Barbara Beck, Mary O'Neal, Aithne Loeblich, Heidi Mclellan, Dat Cao, Cody Crockett, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, James Cottrell, Jenna Appleton, Cindy Ring, Andrei Dunca, Daniel Owen, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Liz Lowe, Jamason Isenburg, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Kevin Selman, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Justin Weir, Normandy Madden, Simon Inman, Joseph Michael Kuhlmann, Mike Chow, Kevin Hooker, Michelle Maroney, Rickard Fahlander, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Scott J. Mark, John Mann, Michael "Klink" Klinckhardt, Megan Chowning, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Joseph Lanning, and Melissa A. NathanThank you for your support!Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hey everybody. Welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager. Your two hosts along this journey are myself, Garrett Wong, and my co-host, Mr. Robert Duncan McNeil. Hello, sir. Hello there. Hello there. Sir. How are you? Oh, I'm good. I'm good. Yes. Okay. Yeah, good to see you too. I know. I know. know you're getting ready to gear up to head back to Vancouver right now. Yeah, yeah, getting ready to go back to work on Resident Alien. And then the other show I worked on, Turner & Hooch, is getting ready to premiere. Yeah. So, yeah, lots, yeah, it's busy. Lots of stuff going on, yeah. I just had my first Pfizer shot, yes, two days ago.

So, yeah, I was sitting on the, thank you. I was sitting on the fence for a while. I mean, I've been traditionally someone who has been quite allergic to everything. Like, for instance, when I was on Voyager, I met with an allergist. I don't know if you've done that before. And they basically, yeah, you take your shirt off, life on your stomach. And they prick your back with like a hundred different little possible allergens. And that doctor came back in after the results.

And he says, oh, you know, I'd like to inform you that you are allergic to 99.9% of what tested you for. I said, what? He said every tree, grass, everything, which then made sense because I play golf. And typically when I'm playing golf, I'm okay, the first nine holes. But by hole 10, if I'm playing 18 holes, I start to notice that my stuffy, my nose starts running, you know, and by the end of the round, I look like a mess, you know, and I'm just sneezing. And so that's because you're playing golf on grass. And I'm allergic to every grass. And no, demand. So there you go. So that was my big fear, Robbie. I said, you know what? I'm going to be that that point O one percent that takes this vaccine and ends up in the hospital. And so I've been so

nervous. So I've been really just kind of procrastinating and procrastinating. And finally, I talked to, I talked to my neurologist. And he said, listen, you need to, you really need to work on getting that vaccine. I said, well, okay, but these are my concerns. He said, well, those are definitely valid concerns, but I want to tell you right now, that delta variant that's going around right now, he says, you're over 50. You've had some head trauma when you hit your head and fell, you know, in Calgary twice now. You've had spinal surgery. So you're more at risk. And with that delta variant, there's a one in 20 chance that you'll be hospitalized or die. And I said, one in 20? And if you catch it, you know, that you can, you will, it's rolling the dice at that point.

Right. So it's. And then you also texted me. You were like, hey. you should probably get that vaccine pretty soon. Well, I read here in Utah where we live that the cases with the Delta variant, the cases have gone up dramatically recently, and more than half of the new cases are all the Delta variant. Delta variant, this dangerous form. So, yeah, I'm very grateful that we have science. Yeah, agreed.

And that they can do magic like this because it really is, amazing, but it's science. It's just science. And the more I looked into it for myself, the more confident I was that it was the smart, absolutely the smartest move. And, you know, I still try to be smart about germs in general and COVID specifically. But, you know, if I'm going into a large store, I'll probably wear a mask. I do wear a mask these days. I went grocery shopping today. I wore a mask. Even though I've been vaccinated, just because for everybody else, I don't want to be a carrier. Right.

I just want this thing to be over for all of us. Yeah. And then you're right. I still wear a mask everywhere in public still. Yeah. And Vegas, Nevada is open now. So there are. And it's sort of on, it's on, you know, there's no one checking for vaccination cards.

They're just saying all the casinos here say, if you're vaccinated, you don't have to wear a mask. And they're just saying that. So anybody can just not wear a mask. And nobody's. stopped to say, like, let's see your vaccination card. So it's really just, it's up to whether not the person is. I have mixed feelings about that, honestly. Like, you know, having a vaccine passport that people have to prove. I have mixed feelings about that kind of thing. But I just think it's reasonable that, that if we can, most of us, most all of us can get vaccinated,

it's good for everybody. Yeah. If we continue to be smart with masks and things like that, I think, you know, this isn't going to disappear magically. overnight, but we're in such a better place right now than we were a year ago. It's difficult to realize to know that it's almost like half of the population is still not vaccinated, right? So of that number, I don't know if people are just busy and how many of those are anti-vaccine. I'm not sure.

But yeah, so that is the other issue involved right now, right? But we can all do what we can only do what we can do ourselves. That's it. Right. I mean, you can't really force anybody. You're like, you better go get it right now or else, you know, we're going to beat you up. I mean, there's nothing you can do about that. If someone doesn't want to do it, they're not going to do it. That's the bottom line, you know. Yeah, I think that, you know, the information you talk about, like, the wonderful thing about the internet is we can all have access to information in ways we didn't 20, 30, 40 years ago. We just, you know, we can, I can look up anything. I mean, we all do this now. Like, you're having a conversation about, oh, who is that actor in that movie? You can look it up. Like, no one has to know it. You can look it up. It's true. But you can find anything you want to find to back up whatever your preconceived bias or agenda is.

Yeah. If you want. That's true. You can find any evidence you want to support anything. To support any argument, right? One side or the coin or the other. And that can be a dangerous situation to know what is trustworthy information, what is not. Yeah.

Anyway, so, yeah. Yeah. It's confusing, you know, the more information we get, the more confusion we get to. Yeah, agreed. Anyway, what are we doing today? We're doing displaced. Displaced. Displaced. Displaced is the episode.

Okay. All right. Let's go ahead and let's get right to it. Robbie and I are going to go watch Displaced. We'll be right back with our comments and discussion. Thanks, guys. See you soon. from watching Displaced.

Yes, we are. Yeah. That was fun, actually. Yeah. I'm really, having no memory of that episode from the title, from the description, nothing, I could not remember anything. Watching it was really, really fun because I did start to remember some things, and I just thought it was a really good episode.

I really did. And a lot of Tom Paris, a lot of Tom Paris. a lot of Tom Paris in it. It had a lot of Tom Paris. That's not exactly why. It did have a lot of Tom Paris, but it had a lot of everybody. It felt like to me, everybody,

Chacote had a runner. You had great moments. I think the only one that didn't have much of anything, maybe was Kess. She had one line or, you know, she was. Yeah. But I feel like it involved the whole crew in the story. Yes, yes.

I feel like whenever there's a story that, involves where the whole crew has some stakes in it. You know what I mean? Those are my favorite episodes. Yeah. So this one I felt like the whole crew had stakes in it. Everybody was involved. I thought it was great.

Yeah. I would give this. I'm feeling good these days. I'm going to give this an eight out of 10. Wow. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to give it a seven.

So I'm going to go lower than you on this one, seven out of ten. So, yeah. But still. good episode, regardless. It's not good, yeah. I thought it was fun. Let's start with our poetry synopsis. Let's begin with your haiku, please.

Let me get to my haiku, my lovely haiku. I don't know why I'm doing this accent. It's a weird accent. And your screen is moving like there's an earthquake happening. I've got my notes right up there. I've got a touchscreen. Okay, here's my haiku.

Yeah. My haiku for displaced. Let's hear it. swapped with nirians Tom and Torres hot and cold cold saves Voyager

get it because the cold is the thing that I was going on the it was a poetic sort of haiku interpretation

sure totally and you can choose whatever type of poetic interpretation you'd like so that's good and there's no

wrong answer sir no and haikus are supposed to Hikus are supposed to have some element of nature or the senses. It's figured hot and cold. Yeah. Very good.

How about you? I can't believe I have literally after this. I have two more limericks to do. And then it's back to you with the limerick. I know. Okay. Just when I'm getting kind of the hang of it too. I know.

You're getting good at these. Getting better. Okay. Here is my limerick for displaced. Okay. Voyager crew vanish one by one. The ship's new captain. is near a young jailed with other crews and escape ensues minus 20 ruins de mars fun whoa

nice very nice you are getting good at these yeah yeah man yeah you know i try i try okay so this episode is written by lisa clink our good friend lisa clink and directed once again by one of our favorite directors alan craker was this alan's second episode with us this is his second with this. Yeah, only his second one. And I got to say, he did a phenomenal job. Amazing job. Some of those. The shots, the staging, it just was, it was perfect. Really good. Everything flowed so well. And it just, very organic. And just, it just looked cool. You know, some of the shots he chose were just cool shots for sure. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk a little bit about our, our guest stars. We have Kenneth. TIGAR, I think that's, hopefully I'm pronouncing that correctly. He plays Damar, sort of the lead Nerean. Experience on Next Generation before Voyager. And that seems to be the ongoing theme with most of our guest stars.

They've always worked on some other Star Trek incarnation. So Kenneth Tigar was on TNG. Interesting, I made a, you know, when I was doing my video reactions, I made a note that he reminds me. A little bit of Bob Picardo. I mean, he gives off a Bob Bacardo sort of vibe. That's crazy that he reminded you of Bob. He did in one particular shot.

Yeah. So there's one of my video reactions I actually show my reaction to how he, in that particular scene, he came off. He gave me a Bob Bacardo feeling. I was like, hey, this is kind of Picardo-esque in a way, just as how his face is. I wonder that you bring that up. I wonder how many guest stars came on to our show. as guest stars, but had auditioned for one of these roles, you know,

whether it was the doctor or Nelix or, right, you know what I mean? I wonder how many were for Paris, you know, sure, some that came on with audition for Paris. That'd be interesting to find out. That would be. That would be. Then we have Mark L. Taylor, who plays Jarleth. And Jarleth also has experience with TNG.

another TNG alumni and James Noah who plays the role of Dr. Ristlin Yes, Ristlin, yeah. DS9. He was on DS9 and did not know

how old he was, but he was born in 135, so he was the oldest of the entire group. Wow. His debut guest-starring role on television was Bonanza, which made me go, Oh my gosh. I mean, that kind of pulls you back when you're like, what, Bonanza? That's kind of nice. And then Nancy Youngblood, who kind of plays, I don't think she was given a name.

She was just the Nerean female commander of the environments, basically. Teline. They did say it at one point. Taleen. Yeah. Taleen or Taleen or something like that. Okay. So they do mention it for a second there. Okay. Again, another Star Trek alumni. She guest starred on DS9, just like Noah did. And she did her undergraduate at a college in Minnesota, but her MFA, her graduate degree, is from University of Georgia. Yes, go go, yes. She has an MFA in directing.

So that's, that was Nancy's deal. And all of these guest stars, if you look at their resumes, good Lord. I mean, it's so long, all the guest stars, the guest starring roles that they have. done over the years, the decades. Really, it's more decades than years. They've had very, very long careers. Did you work with any of these guest stars in any capacity before or after? No.

Okay. No, not that I know of. Right. No. Okay. I can't think that our paths crossed tonight. No. But I thought they were all good.

Like I said, I really liked this episode. I thought the guest stars were all really good. There were no clunkers. I thought the script, you know, Lisa Klinke wrote a great script. And Alan just knocked this one out of the park. He did a phenomenal job. Yeah, for sure. So let's get it.

Let's get into the episode. Yeah, the first scene we see Tom and Balana stepping out of the holodeck. And they're kind of walking down the hall. They were doing a Klingon martial arts program. And Valana is just frustrated. She doesn't want to do it. she failed in some way and so mad she's mad they're walking down the hall and i noticed as as i watched this scene that um that i was talking really fast and i it reminded me that you know

our hallways weren't that long and sometimes the dialogue like where they wanted us to start and finish it didn't quite fit and so we'd have to keep talking really fast so that we got all the words out before we hit the next place. Okay. And I noticed myself talking really fast. And in fact, there's one, I can't remember the line, but there's one point where you see me sort of stumble as if I forgot my line and I remembered it.

And it's in the scene. I mean, you know, you can see me sort of stumble for the line for a second. And, and, but I know, I know that Alan must have said, you know, I want you walking this fast and time it out so you guys get to the end of the scene. here. Right. And I didn't want to screw it. I'm sure I didn't want to screw it up. So I was like, shit, what's my next line? And then I then I remembered it and kept going. But it sort of worked in the energy of the scene. But I definitely know that there was a bump there where I was like, what's my line? Okay. Well, as someone who is basically a casual observer watching this episode

again, I did not notice that. Like there's no part of your performance did I say, man, he's rushing through those lines. That didn't come off. And not once did I, did I pick up on the fact that you had dropped a line in your head and then had to, you know, find it. I could see it. You can see it, but that's you. You know, I don't think anyone else is going to even make that notes. So you're being overly critical. I'm going to say. Okay. Okay. I do want to, I do want to ask you one thing. When she, when she kind of grabs the pat bat, bat, and almost hits you in the face with it, did she actually have an accident when she actually did hit you in the head or, you know, was there any, no. So you don't recall any mishaps happening. But I remember, as I watched this episode, I did remember a lot of these scenes. They came back to me as I was watching them. And I feel like what I remembered was that that bit with the Batleth where she's gesturing with it, and I'm sort of my eyes are watching the Batleth fly around near me.

I think we added that to the scene. I don't think that was necessarily scripted. Okay. I think what was scripted was later on when she does at the end of her speech, I say, hey, be careful with that thing, you know, or something, something like that. Right. And I think what I remember happening, and I could be wrong, but what I remember happening is that we took that line as sort of a cue for, oh, what if she's, you know, gesturing with

it and we sort of developed the bit, I guess. And there were a couple times in this episode where I remember, oh, let's add this bit, you know, this bit of business, this thing that might make the scene. It's not scripted. but if we if we kind of play it this way, it'll add something to it. So that's something with the bat left. I think we added the kind of physicality of it.

Any comments on your wardrobe? It was very low cut. I had a lot of chest hairs. You were showing cleavage. I was showing cleavage. I do remember that they would have to put the makeup down my neck and onto my chest. I do remember.

To blend it in. Yeah, a number of episodes. But in this one, particular, like they have to take the makeup so that my face is not one color. So it doesn't look like makeup or whatever. Yeah. And go down on my chest. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I like the look of it overall. I mean, it was a little low cut, but still, it was a nice looking piece of garment, right? Yeah. Still quite masculine. It was good. The outfits. I thought, you know, our martial arts or Klingon inspired martial arts outfits. Yeah. And then when, so the first,

guy that shows up. That's DeMar. That's DeMar. Tamar shows up. Yeah. And he just sort of appears in the hall. And my first thought was, why didn't Paris, like, grab the Batleth or something to get in a defensive posture? Like, I was awfully friendly to him. We just sort of looked at him. You were like, hey. Yeah. Oh, hey. You're just appeared on our ship. And why wouldn't I assume that an unannounced alien being under our ship could be a potential threat.

And if I don't have a phaser, why didn't I grab the bat lift and like, what's up? Yeah. Or something. That was a moment that seemed kind of strange to me. See, that is definitely a moment

I made note of and that's why I gave it a seven and not an eight. Like things like that kind of made me think, huh. And so this alien basically, Damar, you know,

he appears, it's too cold, it's too bright. And I made a note, these are the thimble hat aliens. They've got those bizarre looking, I don't know, Almost like, it kind of looks, remember that musical group, Devo?

Devo had those like upside down like red cones or planter, you know, something you have to plant in. And that's kind of what it looks like, kind of like a planter or a thimble. So, yeah. So I just made a, you know, quick note about that. Cute hats, yes. Well, because they're cold. They need to wear a hat all the time. Yeah.

So being an American, and since we don't use Celsius, I did have to make the transition. And I googled it, 45 degree Celsius. is 113 degrees Fahrenheit. That's what he's used to. So he's used to Vegas temperatures in the summer where I am currently at right now. So that's, yeah, these guys are super, super, super, they need that.

I mean, that's crazy. If that's their normal temperature all the time. Yeah. That's hot. Yeah, that's super, super hot. Well, you do notice later on when, not to give away spoilers, but when Janeway and Tuvok are working on the alien ship later on,

they did add sweat onto her. On Janeway, but Tuvok didn't have anything. So I was wondering, is that because. Yeah. I mean, Planet Vulcan has two suns. So naturally, I'm going to assume it's hotter than any other place. So I think Vulcans are okay with really hot weather because Tuvok looked like, you know, fresh as a day. Yeah, he looked okay.

Janeway was sweating. And she never sweats in real life. So that was all added to, to accommodate. You're right. She doesn't sweat. No, she never sweated. Is Kate an alien? Kate is an actual alien.

I think she is. I knew it. Okay. Okay. So he appears in the hall. Next thing, we go to the, we go to sick bay and the doctor's examining him. He's like, it's bright. I'll turn the lights down, the dog says.

And then the doc says, you know, Kess hasn't arrived yet. That's strange. Where is she? And they scan, they ask the computer, and she is not on the, ship. No, she's not on the ship. And I just want to rewind just a little bit back. I just want to say that when, after you guys say here, Torres says, let me take you to sick bay. And essentially, that's the first time you see Torres's calves. You don't see. We're always wearing Starfleet uniform. You don't really see people's legs. And I think this might be the first time. Do we ever have

Starfleet shorts? I don't think so. I don't think I can't remember any. Starfleet shorts. Yeah, yeah. And I love a good pair of shorts. Yes, I do too. Yeah. There needs to be Starfleet shorts. Yes.

That would be the way to go. I agree. Okay, so jump back to the sick bay. Yeah, so we're in the sick bay. They asked the computer, where's Kess? Because she's not around. And the computer says, Kess is not on board. And the Janeway puts together, Janeway says, what time?

And it was 1132 hours that both of them, the first Nerean alien, arrived at 1100,000. 32 hours and Kess disappeared at 11332. So a switcheroo. Yep. A switcheroo. So we go to engineering and Harry and Boulana are trying to sort this out. Was there some kind of, you know, anomaly or something that's doing this? They're looking for some natural explanation.

And so they're doing their little scans and trying to figure it out. And Bala says, Harry, do you think I'm hostile? your reaction was awesome you're like you you like that reaction okay i yeah this uh this scene did refresh my memory of this episode i was like oh i remember this scene i remember this scene because in when i was reading it her line at the end which is then why do you look like you're afraid for your life i so had i had such a difficult time with this as an actor because i kept thinking this is just a weird line just for me to to react to because i've always felt that harry is extremely comfortable with balana because they were the two from caretaker episode that were

that were afflicted with that disease they were going to die so there's there's always been this camaraderie between uh Torres and kim and uh you know they have always been work you know you see them working together multiple times and so the my feeling was as an actor like Well, why would he be? He wouldn't be afraid for his life around her. But the only way that would happen would be for if her conversation just got more and more aggressive. And I do feel like that the ball was dropped a little bit, you know, by Alan in that our director in that maybe he could have had her a bit more in my face closer, like, you know, where she's losing control. Because I didn't feel like very threatened by how she was saying it, you know. And also because of my knowledge the history of our relationship, the Harry Balana relationship. I think everything you said is true. I think all the, all the connection that you have with Balana. But in this particular story, it didn't bother me because clearly from that first scene

with Tom and then all the way throughout, they're kind of leaning into this, she's got a short temper, she's argumentative, she's bickering with Tom throughout the episode. So I think that it was kind of leaning into her, her high. temper that you know you know more than like your comfort level it's more about her than about you you know right right she can go off and lose it very quickly yeah um so you weren't bothered by the reaction uh after oh i thought it was great okay so you're good with it it was funny i i think we can bring a little funny into the show i think it's good that's why i liked that bit with the bat left of tom sort of yeah you know dodging as she was gesticulating with it and all but it was great yeah so yes

that definitely that scene with Harry and Bologna has a bit of funny and later we'll see there's some other other funny lines from other characters so yes there's just just enough humor in there in this episode to really kind of make it nice it did a great job of just bringing in a little bit of humor okay some funny I thought it was great so I'm being overly critical of my I think so I think it's more about her character than absolutely is trying to land this right got a short temper and that she's she's sort of questioning it you know Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I, and then so she's, she, she, she walks away from you at one point. The camera kind of pans with her. And then we hear an off camera noise and we cut back into, to, to what Balana sees and Harry's gone. He's disappeared. Yeah. I just want to say a number of times, because there was a lot of these moments of coming, people coming on and off different places. A lot of, there was a number of places where people beamed in or out off camera. And I do remember there was a cost, you know, a visual effects cost every time someone

beamed in or beamed out. And I'm sure that the reason they did this was for budget reasons that that that's why Roxanne walked away from you so that the camera could be off of you and play as a sound effect. Yeah. And then cut back. Yeah. So it's free.

Yeah. I actually walked away from her before I disappeared just because I go to the side. So we both kind of walk away from you. You both kind of head different directions. and then we hear you disappear off camera. Yeah, so Harry disappears. And the way Bologna reports that Harry's gone is really there's really not much emotion, which I was a little bummed about.

She's just like, yeah, Captain Harry disappeared. It was really just nonchalant sort of an answer response to that. I wanted her to be like, kind of shocked, but, you know, she wasn't. It's okay. I think that this whole episode, like that was one element of this episode where I feel like it's a big deal that you know strange aliens are appearing on our ship

just randomly beaming in it should be it's the same feeling I had when Harris didn't really react to the uh to Marr showing up yeah suspiciously or something we just sort of turned and looked and I think that that could have been a bigger bigger deal yeah and they show and it's good that they showed you know when Kim disappears instead of the Nerean appearing

exactly in engineering, the Nerean appears on the bridge that replaces Kim. So, you know, they're able to incorporate other sets, and it's not the same set. And they keep that visual effects separate from the one that they have to do for my disappearance. And now we just jump back and forth where we see different people disappearing. We have a scene in the corridor where we see my stand-in, John Tampoya, walking past Keith, who is Sue Henley's-rave, that's right. Yes. Sue Henley was Kate Mulgrew stand-in, and Keith is the one who disappears after Harry.

disappears. So we see Keith leaving. And the thing about Keith's disappearance, just to break down what happened is the camera's tied on a turbo lift, Keith walks out. And as he's walking away, the camera pans over and he just sort of disappears down the hall. Yeah. But the thing about these shots is you can't be moving the camera, at least back then. Now we can do things a little differently. But back in the 90s, you couldn't be panning the camera on a on a beam in or a beam out. You had to lock that camera off. So as Keith comes out and it pans over to the hall, what had to have happened is we had to pan the camera and then lock it

and then clear everybody out. And then you would do sort of a visual effect split screen or whatever to have him look like he's disappearing. But that had to be a locked off camera. So, you know, it was a clever shot. And we did that quite often on people beaming in and then panning, you know, panning in or out of a, beam in, but you'll probably notice in the series that you don't see the camera moving a

lot. It doesn't move during a beam in. It's always static. 99.9% of the time. I can't think of one, but I guess it's possible that the camera was panning during a beam in, but not likely, not likely at all. Correct. Yeah. So Keith got a little close up there. All of our stand-ins got close up. They all did. Richard Starstet in engineering. That's right. Yeah, that's Chakotay stand-in. Yeah, Richard. And he actually hits his con badge, you know, later. So he's doing some action, you know, he's kind of like the featured extra, really. Yeah, we've got this montage of a lot of our regular background and extras and stand-ins, which I love.

I love when the Nerean appears in the holodeck. And he walks over and you see the two girl, the holodeck girls. Yeah, they're like, hmm. And you hear one of them go, mm-hmm. Yeah. And I thought to myself, they didn't. didn't let extras say lines or make sounds like that. So that had to have been after the fact, the loop group probably had that.

Okay. Because they probably said, oh, we should have the girls go, or do make some noise. Yeah. So we have a loop group for the show that's probably six or eight people, you know, three men, three women, something like that. And wouldn't you say most TV shows and films utilize a looping group to do all that, yes. And so they'll enhance the crowd scenes. They'll do special sounds or reactions off camera. Right. I think in this episode, there's a character who's, you know, when Chacote's running

around the ship. One of the last people left with Chacote. Right. Yes. One of the last people who we never meet, by the way. We only hear him. That's a loop grouper doing that. Genaro. Genaro. Roman Gennaro. We only hear him. And that must have been a loop group. had to have been right um yeah but the girls the girls on the hall of tech when you hear the loop group yep loop group yep um i always thought that was a fun job i was like man maybe i should see if i can get involved in a loop group that just seems like a fun job to oh yeah just to add extra voices and sound effects and things like that you know oh yeah yeah we go back up to the bridge so people are disappearing and we go to the bridge and they're trying to figure out what's going on and

Tuvok disappears up there. Right in front of Janeway. Gone. Yeah. Gone. So we're in the briefing room and we're trying to figure out what the heck is going on. Right. And I got to say this briefing room scene was brilliant to me the way that Alan staged it.

Oh my gosh. I loved it. It's just classic Alan Craker blocking. Ah, so. Handing around. One character takes to the other. It's really very simple ultimately for the DP, Marvin, rush to light because you really just keep walking actors into, you know, one, one actor carries

the line to the next. It's great for the audience because the scene has energy and movement and it was fun for us, as I recall, you know, as actors, because we always felt like, oh, this will be fun. It's not just, you know, static singles and we sit at a table and take our turn. It's moving and it was a lot of fun. Yeah. Anyway. Great job on that one. And in this scene, this is when You know, everyone's still trying to figure out, like, Tom talks about Damar, not recognizing anything on the navigational charts. And so we don't know what the heck's going on. But Janeway at this point, she decides to confine all the Nereans to the cargo bay because

she kind of, you know, her spitey senses are tingling. She's like, something's off about this, right? It's uncanny valley. We don't know what's happening. And every nine minutes and 20 seconds, there's another exchange of a Voyager crew member with a Nerean. and pretty soon there will be no Voyager crew members left. She says in 18 hours will all be gone.

Gone, every single one of them. But she's got that gut feeling right there. She also, a couple other things in the scene that I thought were funny, there was a moment where Paris says, you know, maybe it's an anomaly and he sort of crosses his arms, and he hasn't spoken to Balana since they're sort of bickering fight in the hallway. And he's crossing his arms, then she comes over and throws in her two cents

and crosses her arms and then Tom looks down and he uncrosses his arm. And so there's this bit of like non-dialogue business going on that I thought was really fun. And it was funny. It was, I love that stuff. I don't know if it was Alan that came up with it or if it was. I thought it was more coincidence, actually.

Like it was just subconscious. It was subconscious. You think it was a bit? Because I almost feel like it was a subconscious thing that sort of like sometimes you will mimic the person that's next to you that just it's human nature that that'll happen you know um it might have happened unconscious in a rehearsal but i'm telling you that was a bit like as i watch the scene i'm like oh i remember when we came up with that bit like so i remember going oh if you cross your arms then i'm i'm mad at you i'll uncross my arms so right well that makes sense i love that kind of

i do like that but but try this exercise if you're talking to somebody and you kind of do this and start scratching, nine times out of 10, the other person will bring their hand to their face. It's really weird. They would just end up copying you. But this particular scene, really? Okay. So in this particular scene, obviously, it's a bit.

So, and it's a funny bit. I really enjoyed that. That's cute. Yeah, that's cute. Also, there's another thing in here where Janeway says, I wrote her to line down, she says, something is wrong about this and I can smell it. Yeah.

I made the note, she probably smells Tim Russ or Johnny Phillips. because they have gaseous anomalies that are world famous. I think she's smelling Tim or Johnny. Yeah. Okay. Something smells. Well, back to the whole crossing arms thing. And I've talked about this a long time ago.

You know, when I was growing up in Memphis, Tennessee, I studied martial arts from the same teacher who taught Elvis Presley. And at our martial arts school, we were not allowed to cross arms or put our hands on the hip. It was it was deemed offensive and not respectful. And we were, we had to do pushups if anyone caught us doing that. So to this day, I typically try not to do that. So I mean, if you watch Harry, it's a very rare moment where you see him crossing his arms or putting his hands on its hips, you know. Well, that's interesting. And this is because of, you know, my head is like, I don't want to do the pushups. So it's still, it's still ingrained in me. It's almost like military

service that I was in when I was, you know, at the martial arts school in Memphis. So, yeah, so whenever I see scenes of like other characters, Janeway, yourself, Torres, crossing arms, I'm thinking, man, you guys will be doing so many pushups right now. Yeah, exactly. That's funny. All right. So we go to cargo bay and it is filled with the Nereans now. Yes. And they say, you know, cargo bay is full. We're going to have to use shuttle the shuttle bays now for some of these you know because they keep coming yeah and half of our crew is gone at this point yeah uh you jumped over the engineering scene or just quickly say that chikote janeway blana and uh torres are in engineering and torres talks about there's a possibility of this being a

baby wormhole this is what's causing this right and maybe we got snagged on it so um she talks about a conversation she had with a scientist named rislin and uh and they they Basically, Janeway's like, well, we need to get a hold of Rizzlin. So she calls down to the cargo bay, which is when Janeway disappears, right? And Nielix is like, come again, Captain, are you there? And no, she's gone. So that's where we see that everything is filled with Nereans there, right? Now we're on the bridge.

And I love this scene because it's just Chakotay and the ensign. Chakotay and the ensign. And I have to, I made a note here because I was like, this ensign's got a bunch of lines. Yeah. And so I looked it up. Deborah Levin is the actress. She was featured as Ensign Lang in third, season three and four episodes, Blood Fever, Displaced, and Year of Hell. Oh, wow.

And she went on, I think our show was one of her earlier jobs, but she went on to do lots of sitcom. She did guest stars and lots of different sitcoms. And she did a bunch of episodes of how to get away with murder in the recent past. So she went on to quite a few credits there. Yeah. And another- Debra Levin is her name. Debbie Levin.

And then there's that whole humorous interchange with Chacote and Ensign. Is she even given, Ensign Lang? Is that what you said? Ensign Lang, yeah. She's just called her Ensign Levin. Just give her her real last name, right? And he's like, well, how do you like your first day as chief of security, ensign? And she's like, and with the really dry, dry delivery, she's like, it's everything I've dreamed

of, sir. She responds, right? And then he says, well, who says there's no room for advancement on this ship? So even in the midst of great peril or, you know, of everything's upside down, there are still these awesome humorous lines written by Lisa Klink. So good job, Lisa, keeping the humor going. we love it yeah so uh we hear neelix disappear they're talking to neelix he disappears off camera again saving some money yeah uh we do find out here that there's only 40 people left on the ship

yeah and uh i also love the way again allan staged this scene with chikote was on the com talking to neelix but while he was doing that he was moving from console station to station so the camera kept moving um i thought it was it was just really well all staged and amplified the idea that there's not enough people to run this ship, that Chucote has to go from the con over to engineering, to this station, to that station. So I thought that was great. Yeah, for sure. Speaking of engineering, we go to engineering and Bologna and Dr. Ristlin are analyzing

this situation and trying to figure out. And so far, we feel like these guys, these Narians are innocent people. first time we realize that's not true. Dr. Rizzlin turns, he hits the guard, knocks him out, grabs his phaser, and holds Boulana off. So I just want to say that the guard is later referred to as Ensign Molina. And so once again, I'm really impressed with the names that they've given to a lot of these background people. And because they kind of match, except for Ensign Lang. Like, Lange should have been 11. She definitely looks like 11, not a lang.

But Molina looks like a Molina. And later they have the blonde-haired guy with Chikote. That's Larson, which is a Scandinavian name, which is once again perfectly, you know, named. So a lot of attention to details, what I'm pointing out right now. Yeah. Okay. So Risland's got Balana, you know, held with a phaser. He's just stolen.

And he says, I'm going to move. view up in line, she gets, you know, transported off the ship. So we realized that they've got some control over this and some choice. And these are not innocent people. They're bad guys. By the way, if Balana had listened to me in the first scene, she just practiced her cling on martial arts and wasn't denying the power of her heritage. Of her heritage. She would have been able to fight this guy off. Oh, okay. Save the ship. But instead, she's just like, Like, eh, because she hasn't practiced her claim on martial arts.

Yeah. Like I told her to. I would like to bring attention to when Torres is translocated out of there. Yeah. What a cool shot. It's her perspective, right? She's looking at Rizzlin. And then the way it's shot by by Craker is that she's, she's looking at him.

And then she see, you see what she sees, which is the little, the kind of like orangeish red effect, right? When she's being translocated, which is cool angle. All right. It's the opposite angle. We haven't seen that reverse angle being transferred out of it. No, that's a very unusual, very inventive way to translate. Yeah. Yes, very cool. And the planet is beautiful. And our crew is here. Everybody has been disappearing. And it looks like I think someone says it's an idyllic version of Earth created just for us. That's right. But at that point, nobody knows what's happening still. They're completely clueless, right? We jump back to the bridge. Chacote hears that Molina was found unconscious in engineering. And this is when Chacote realizes, this is, this is a, this is not a mutiny, excuse me, this is a takeover. This is really what's happening.

These guys are here and their intentions are not good. And so he says he's going to go talk with the Nereans. He heads down to cargo bay, completely empty. Everyone's gone. The next scene we see Demar ordering his team, you know, his men, team two, go, you know, secure this. So this is a very well- orchestrated, well-planned out attack, essentially. And by the way, at this point, I think when Chocote was on the bridge before he left, he was told there's 12 crewmen left. That's it on the whole ship. That's right. And I think crewman Janaro is the one that calls in, which by the way, again, we never meet crewman Janaro. No. And probably a loop group guy. He has a nice voice. And the point when Damar is ordering his men, like, you know, team two do this. That's the scene where I went, Papa Cardo right there. Yes. I don't know. what the maybe it was a side profile thing that came out or it's just something reminded me of

bob i loved it's a very simple moment but when chokote's walking down the hallway i thought the score here was wonderful i think j chateway did the score oh um great epic orchestra horns it just it's the kind of thing now and then in our show that just really pops out the yeah the music and the in the composing and the sound of our show. Yes. Chiquote, the one-man army, starting to walk down the hall and take care of business. I thought the score was really great there.

Right. Yeah, it was. Yeah. So by the way, when Chacote walks down the hall and he gets to the cargo bay where everybody should be, he doesn't know they're gone yet or what's going on. And he's got his phaser drawn and the door opens.

And he steps around. He sort of stepped into a close-up and didn't, it didn't appear, that he pointed his weapon in defense or anything. And I just thought, it's a cool close-up. It's a dramatic moment, but where's his weapon? Like, you know, if you're going to, why would you just step into a doorway, not knowing what's on the other side and not have your weapon drawn or not,

not have, you know, looked around, I don't know, sometimes I feel like we could have used a tactical advisor for these kind of moments where, you know, somebody could have said, you really should, you know, check, you know, your 10 and your two or whatever. You should, you know, you should clock things or enter a door or danger this way or that way. Anyway, yeah, he goes in. The near ends are gone. The bad guys are going everywhere through the Jeffries tube. By the way, when they're going through the Jeffries tubes, we didn't have that many

Jeffries tubes. We had like one little set off of engineering, a little center point with a couple of panels, and maybe one Jeffrey's tube off to the side. Yeah. And a way to climb up and a way to climb down maybe? And that's about it. Like, yeah, it wasn't a lot. Very limited.

Yeah, they milked all of this by, you know, reusing panels and having them, you know, approach from different directions or climb out one way and come down the next way. And it made it seem like they were on a much bigger set than we really had. Yeah, that's true. We see scenes on the bridge. and of engineering, where our crew are being, well, whoever's left of the crew are being overrun by the Nereans.

So the Nereans have basically taken over every aspect of the ship. We see Ensign, what's her name? Lange. Lange. Leng. We see her draw a phaser and fire and take out one of the bad guys. It takes out two. She takes out two.

But then she's hit. Who's that extra next to her? The short hair girl? I can't, I, oh, she's one of the, the regular. Yeah, but it's. a regular extra that we haven't seen until this episode. I have not really seen her until now, but I can't remember her name.

But anyway, I interrupted, please, go ahead. Well, so that actress who played Ensign Lang is really good, but this phaser hit that she takes it made me laugh. She's just sort of like wiggled like a worm move and then sort of fell straight down. I was like, you could have did a little bit better one. You could have.

Cutting is a stunt double, not the best taking a phaser hit there. Yeah. And it's also early in, you know, in her career too. So she's probably, she's probably so nervous and everything about being on set, right? And doing her own stunts there. She's like, oh my God, what am I going to do? Should I wiggle? Should I do the worm? What should I do? Right? So, yes. So then we're, she did the worm. So now we're in the corridor. And Chiquote is with Larson. And once again, I'm going to say the people that look the best in gold are. are blondes. Blonds, blondes, blondes. Yeah, that guy looked amazing in the gold. It's that gold. No, not for Asians. Asians should never be in that gold color. It's horrible. It brings

everything wrong out, right? And this is, and I'm going to say this now, and I'm going to say it again later. This is Jerry Ryan that was supposed to wear a Starfleet uniform that was gold, but she said no, because she said, she saw what it looked like on me. She goes, so she told production, I'm not going to wear puke yellow. I'm not going to, I'm now. So they put her in, medical green, which makes no sense for what she was doing in that episode. She should have been in gold. And I'm going to say it right now. Jerry Ryan, look at Larson. He looks amazing. All blondes look best. Tom Paris would look amazing in gold as well if Tom had gold on. Okay. If you're Asian or Mediterranean, I'm going on a tangent here because I'm very passionate

about this. Okay, I get so passionate about this. And I always say Asians, Mediterranean, anyone with darker, more olive skin, they look great in the red in command or the teal, the green, right? but not the gold. They don't listen. People don't know. It's okay. All right. Let's move on.

Color matching is so hard. Okay, it is. Yeah, Chacote is in the hallway. He finds a panel. He says they're everywhere. They're even decrypting our access codes. They plan this mission, he realized. And Larson, your favorite, blonde Scandinavian and gold disappears.

Yes. And Gennaro is the only one left with Chakotay. But, of course, we've never met Janaro. and we never will because he's only on the calm and the loop group yes and loop group so chikote you see when he's being chased by that trio of nirian guards right yes this is the first time you see a really buff nirian like that really like bodybuilding nir because up until now it's like oh these guys are taking over they're kind of frail and kind of slight you know but now they have one guy who clearly has eaten his witties and been to the gym so he's really really the buff guy

chasing after. Yeah, so I made a note about that guy. And he's also the guy later when Chocote peeks into a Jeffrey's tube and there's one dude in there and he's shooting at him. That's him again. Oh, really? Maybe it was a stunt guy. That's true.

That makes sense. Yeah. We go to the bridge. The Nereans cannot control the engines. They are locked out. So Chocote has sabotaged some of this and we cut back to the tubes and Chocote is sabotaging all kinds of control. rolls. Sparks blowing up in his face. I was very proud of Robert Beltran to get

those sparks. Yeah. He's a good little rebel fighter, isn't he? Yeah. We go back to the bridge, and I just have to say, Dr. Ristlin was sitting in my chair at the con, and I could see crystal clear he did not know how to fly this ship. He is completely lost at the con. I'm just going to say it. See, that's another thing that always kind of gets me. It's like these aliens who have no clue they don't know anything about us yet they seem to know how to operate our ship pretty well

you know and then later when Tuvok and Janeway are in the in the Merrian corridor and Tuvac is like you know he's tapping away fast on all these alien symbols like he knows these symbols it's like come on here's the thing there's a lot of like English alien

continuity reality issues here like there's scenes on the bridge where the Nereans are talking on on the view screen to their lady down below and they're all talking English to each other. I'm like, that's true. I'm like, wait a minute. That's true. When they're in a scene with us, I get why they're speaking English.

The universal translator with us, right? But not when they're talking to each other. Yeah. There was none of us around and they were still speaking English. Right. And yes, and on their ship, their controls had English written, you know, like there were words on their panels. I'm like, their computers aren't going to... No, no, no, that you're mistaken.

That's after Jane, after Tuvok, they had said something about, Janeway said something about since they have downloaded our database, there must be something that they used to translate it into their language. We can possibly reverse that. And Tuvok taps around and that's when that's when it pops up. And that's why it comes back. Yes. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, yeah. So that one addressed that. Okay, I buy that one. But no, but you are right about if there's a, if there's a view screen communication between one nerean and another they should be speaking in nirian right i mean it is i don't think so not english yeah so okay all right let's move on we're back in the tubes chakote is like a one-man army i just got to say he's you know there's there's uh sparks everywhere i just think uh chikote had some really good action hero stuff going on here um he ends up in sick bay yeah and he's he's

he's going to try to download the doctor's entire program into the hollow emitter because the Nereans are going to delete the doctor's program. And Gennaro's gone. They're trying to get rid of everything and everybody on our ship. So Chikote goes and he saves the doctor. He downloads him into the mobile emitter at the very last second. By the way, the doc takes a hypospray as the guys are prying open the door and he hyposprays a guy to sleep defending himself and then and then uh and then uh chikote's got the hollow emitter he's

downloaded the program and he says i know when to give up and he's translocated to the planet with everybody else so right to the nerean uh earth jail whatever you want but he's taking the doctor with him in the hollow emitter yeah lucky lucky doctor just under the wire yeah so we're down on the planet and Taylin, is it Talon? Yeah, that's what you said it was. I never, never heard her name. So I just said I wrote it as Nerean commander.

Nearyan female commander tells Janeway Taleen, okay. That's when we find out what's been going on. That's when our main players, our heroes, discover the nefarious plan of the Nereans. Yeah. The nefarious Nereans. I kind of like that. And that essentially they have used this process to take over numerous alien ships and as well as stations, as well as colonies, in order to use these resources to defend their homeland, their home territory.

So they don't fight wars. They figure out this game that they can play that looks innocent. So they're basically passive aggressive armies. Yeah. They don't really directly fight. anybody they sort of take over in this way that seems innocent looks innocent at the outset but is definitely not is all part of their plan that's right this is when harry sees a portal appear right harry sees the portal appear and out of it comes their neighbor jarlet jarlet introduces himself

yeah yeah some good uh makeup there good alien makeup on jarlet this is mark taylor playing this role yeah he says to them it took me nine years to find this portal from our side and that Nine years. My God. He's like, we got a desert over there. We got no food, not really food or water. So he starts looking at all of our baskets of. Well, he starts not only looking, he starts eating.

Doesn't he start eating? He starts chewing on some stuff, you know. I wonder what that was that he was eating. It was probably dried fruit. Yes, it looked like dried apricot or dried something, you know, for sure. But then Janeway notices, boy, this is a really hungry guy, hungry alien. So I'm going to use this as a way to barter. information out of him. So she just wants to know, how did you locate the portal? In return,

you can have all these baskets of food. And so that's basically the agreement they agree upon. And I just want to say about the... Yes. And I want to just say about his makeup. It reminded me of the makeup from RISE, but much better, much more detail. Remember the aliens in RISE? You didn't like their makeup at all. Like the professor and the other guys, they had those kind of spikes across the brow. But it just wasn't as refined of makeup. There wasn't as much detail, but Jarleth, everything. Jarloff was a good makeup.

Hands completely covered too, right? So that they're alien hands, not human hands with, you know, paint on them. So or coloring. So really, really good job on the makeup for Jarlow. Okay. So we meet him. They decided to collaborate. There's a bit of a time cut here.

do see a nice crane shot of this dark planet prison that, you know, and biosphere that we're on this place. And it's a beautiful set. It's, it was lit. I got to say, Marvin Rush did a great job in the whole episode of taking this idea of sort of darkening the lighting on our ship and just all of it. I know Marvin really love working with Alan Craker. And so he probably got very excited and did a little extra in this episode. And I think it showed. It was really good. And as an actor for me to walk onto that set. It excited me. It was like, oh, wow. So this is where they've, you know, thrown us. This is the idyllic prison setting environment. And it was very well done. Just looking around, I was like, oh, wow, they did a really good job making something out of

nothing. So. Yeah. So Balana is, we see the time has passed. Belana's been adjusting the doctor's optical sensors. Right. So that he can look for microwave signatures for more, more of these portals. They think there may be other portals and other biospheres or other prisons that we might be able to find. And then Balana apologizes to Tom. Tom shows up

and she apologizes for being overly sensitive and snapping at him. And they're starting to really reconnect and get over their little hump when the doctor this nice romantic moment is interrupted by the doctor's commentary and

about what Balana was doing. that she was being defensive. Defense mechanisms, yeah. Yes. And Paris kind of goes, yeah, I think you're right, Doc, or something foolishly agrees. Right. And then this escalates, yeah. Oh, and then there's another fight.

Yes. And the doctor keeps commenting in the middle of them bickering. It was a great little scene. Yes. And eventually, Balana turns off his audio. She goes over and turns him off. She, in one very quick move, she turns off his. speech processors and it's just like it's the best but you missed the other funny moment right

before this when she's reconfiguring his optical sensors and then um the doctor goes oh great then i can begin my new career as a tricorder like when he said that and i i started laughing so hard so great line leads to clink we love that line and then the whole turning off the speech processors love that too very funny um yeah but they continue to argue balana and tom and And they sort of hit a bottom here where, where she's like, well, if you think I'm so, you know, angry all the time, then why do you even try to be my friend? And he goes, fine. I'm going to stop trying. Right.

We think, oh, boy. Honolabalana. You kind of hit a rock bottom here. Yes. They're not going to be able to recover from that. That's right. And then we have a, no, we have another passage of time. So it's now later at night in the Nerean jail environment.

And Tuvok is busy constructing a. rudimentary phaser. He's going MacGyver right now and he's trying to make a weapon, an energy weapon. He's talking to Chokote who's helping. Neelich shows up and he's sent to look for more parts. Chiquotay is very impressed with Tuvok's improvisational skills. He says it reminds him. It says,

Chikote says it reminds me of my Starfleet Academy survival exercises. Then Tuvok then tells us like, well, you know, I already have preparation for those survival exercises when I was on planet Vulcan, I had to survive in the Vulcan desert for four months with only a ritual blade. And I started thinking four months.

Like, if you're talking about a wilderness survival exercise, I can understand a week, but we're talking about four months. In the Vulcan. Yes, in his right of, yeah,

the right of Talof is what he called it. And it's just like, oh my God, that's so hardcore. Vulcans are. He was like, so the Academy was not a big deal. It was a piece of cake.

Yeah, definitely. they do finally we see the doctor has been adjusted and they find a portal that's right the doctor sees this portal the door opens and we see some corridors that look like a ship or yeah in our hallways of something yeah and so they they enter paris and torres with our lizard friend and um tuvac and janeway head off a different direction i got to say this feels like a reuse of the board corridors The corridors that we used in unity, which was just a couple, a few episodes before. It looked like a reuse. I'm sure there were a lot of sets on this episode.

I'm sure they reused and repainted those Borg corridors because it looked exactly like that. Yeah. Tom finds an alien panel. By the way, he finds this alien panel. It looks like there's like four big buttons on the panel. And he kind of looks and thinks about it and then hits the bottom button. How did I know what button to pick? You could have, you could have hit the self-destruct button. And you didn't even know, but you just went ahead and said, I'll take this button, right?

I got four choices. I luckily picked the right one. Door number four, please. Door number four. Okay. Door opens. It's a jungle in there. Yeah. Oh, it's a different biosphere. Right. So they continue down the hall and Balana finds another panel. Yeah. She opens that door and it's rocky cliff. Rocky, cliffy, coastal, you know, sea. So I'm going to stop you right now. And I'm going to ask you, clearly, obviously, those those environments were not there that was clearly some type of green screen and what did you do what was your process as an actor to make your reaction to that environment look realistic like what did you typically do when you were in a green screen episode because they're shooting the reverse of your reaction I would always ask them like are there specific you know um important spots that we should look at are we looking at a general landscape? Is there a, you know, a structure or thing? So if there were, we'd put a piece of tape up on a green screen.

So you could look at, oh, that's where the castle is. And that's where the ocean is. Yes. And you'd have those pieces of tape that you would all discuss. Okay, that's going to be that. That's going to be that. Right. So, yeah, that's one way that you could do it.

Right. That's the technical side of it. But did you sort of like, did you do any type of exercises or anything to visualize that specifically? Not really. Okay. No. Not really. I would just ask if they were, yeah, the technical, what is this spot? What specifically am I? Where do you want me to look? Right. Yeah. Okay. And what am I looking at too? What am I looking at, right? Yeah. Okay. So now we're in the Nerean corridor. And Janeway was with Tuvok. She accesses the Nurean computer. Again,

and somehow they know what buttons to push. Right. They know what? More than four. They have a lot more than, I don't have four to choose from. Yeah. They had like 50. But they happen to push the right ones. Well, they, yeah. And Tuvok translates it into. English, he figures out how to figure that out. They see, it says the Federation Habitat and there's some type of security camera that's panning back and forth, showing all the Starfleet members, you know, inside that habitat. And it says that habitat holds 148. So now, once again, we have the crew complement specifically named how many we have on the ship. 148. I had always thought it was higher than that. I thought it was more, but nope, it's just 148. Tuvac also sees there are 94 different environment. So now Janeway extrapolates that and says there are thousands of people being held here, thousands of aliens against their will. And then I had a note, do Vulcan's not sweat? So we

already talked about that before. Tuvok is totally, I love that. I love that detail of the hot and that's why it's in my haiku, the hot and the cold. It was definitely a part of this episode. Yes. Yes. They also, they realize that they're on a ship. Yeah. They're not on some planet. Right. On this biosphere ship. And then there's an alarm. They're detected. Yeah. And I made a note that when the alarm goes off, the red lights, you know, the red alert comes on.

And I'm like, oh, these aliens, these nearians also like red alert. But red is, I guess, the universal for emergency. Yes. Not just on earth, not just in one particular place on earth. But we know. It is universal. There needs to be another. I know.

They should be blue alert for these. for aliens or some other color, right? Green alert, right? I don't know. It just jumped out at me. There were so many, you know, English and, you know, things that aliens, it was a lack of distinguishing the aliens as being different than humans or earthlings. Yes.

But they did distinguish the Nerean graphics on their computer as being different because look at the colors. All I could think of was the Art Deco, the Art Deco district in, I don't know if you can see that. I mean, the colors are, like I said, the colors are pinks, are aqua green, pink and coral, very Miami Art Deco district, which actually is smart because if they come from a really hot, you know, planet or a hot environment, Miami's hot, right? Tropical colors is what they utilized.

And I kept thinking that's kind of smart, small attention to detail. Yeah. So we're back in the tunnels. Paris and Balana tell lizard guy, they're like, we got to go find their captain too, We've got to go make sure they're okay. And he's like, I'm not going back in there.

And so they head off and suddenly some Nerean guards show up and lizard guys like, they made me do it. He turns very quickly, turns them in. What did that remind you of? What did that remind you of? Nelix.

Neelix from false prophets. Exactly. It was just like, I'm just giving up everything. And in fact, I'm going to tell you where Paris and Torres are. They went that way. You did not have to say where they went. You could have just, you know.

It was not a reliable lizard. No. Not at all. No. Very annoying. We see Paris and Torres, they get in a phaser fight. Yeah. And, you know, nearings are coming from both sides.

And they're like, we've got to go hide in some biosphere. And they open up the biosphere that is this Arctic environment, a freezing cold environment. Yeah, I wrote down the Argala habitat, but in parentheses, I wrote Canadian. It's what I wrote down. It's Canada, basically. It's Edmonton. Oh, my Lord. It's, Alberta.

Yeah. That's right. So they walk into Canada. We're freezing. Yeah. And the bad guys come up, the Nereans come up, and they're like, you know, that's a way colder than we can stand. But let's do this.

Let's go. Go, guys. And in they go. Yeah, but look at Talon. She's like, you guys go. It's an order. She doesn't go. She sends them in.

She's sending them to their death. It's like, come on. You know, what's going on here? So we go in there, white ice caves are really beautiful. Where is that? Stage 16, stage 16. It was the same caves we normally used.

They just painted them white. I remember. I remember being in those caves a couple times in the iced version that we've done on the, we did on the series. What do they do with all the dirt that's on the floor? I think they swept it up and they swept it out, white snowy stuff down. Okay.

because yeah. And when there was the phaser fight in the in the ice caves and there was some avalanchey kind of stuff. Yeah, when you made the avalanche come down. Yeah. There was some dark brown. There was. I did see that. Yeah. Some of that stuff that wasn't painted white fell through. Right. That's okay. It could just be rock debris right underneath the snow. So it's possible. We did skip over the fact that there is a scene where Tuvac and Janeway have now figured out the translocator technology. They're like, oh, this is what they're using to do the, but they don't know how to target.

They know how to kind of operate at the basics, and they're still figuring that out. That's when you and Torres are running for your life in Canada. And we have a little fight with some guys. And then she's freezing. Her hands are cold. Paris grabs her hands and he's rubbing her hands and trying to warm her up. Kind of romantic. Yeah.

And obviously Paris has been. magic breath because he he blows on her hands and she's fine she's okay he's like I'm like are you okay and she goes yeah better better yeah it's unbelievable apparently Paris Tom Paris has magic magical hot breath is what Tom Paris has and as he's holding her hands and they're very close trying to stay positive and together one neary and it starts to appear around the corner but just as he begins to draw his weapon he just passes out it's too cold I don't even think he draws his weapon If you notice, his eyebrows are frosted. They frosted his eyebrow.

Yeah, like he had been frozen. He's just freezing and he can't take it and he collapses. And then Bologna grabs. Yeah, the other guy comes up, Bologna grabs his weapon and shoots that guy. She grabs your weapon, not his weapon. She grabs my weapon. Yeah, right. Right.

Which then makes me wonder, why on earth didn't you grab the two guy, the two Nerean weapons? Like, you guys, you know that your phaser is on its last leg, right? There's very little power left, but there's no motion to grab. There's two down. We should grab some weapons. I know. You should have taken the weapons. What's happening?

I don't know. Janeway and Tuvok. They work on how to target the translocator, right? That's what they're doing. Yeah. And yeah, they're sweating, which by the way, I made a note of like, that's hard to do on stage sometimes because our sound stage was very temperature control. It was always air condition.

So if you're trying to play hot, yeah um you know it's it's hard sometimes to it's just it was tricky to sort of really feel and immerse yourself in those temperature changes or if you're trying to play cold and you had you you know maybe you had like parka zon and yeah gloves and everything you're actually sweating under there because it's not that cold exactly you know it's a very even kind of normal soundstage feeling yeah and you know and that's something that you're never taught in when you know when you go to when you take theater classes and you first start out as an actor like there's no classes about how to react to temperature you know there really isn't

like you're talking about what is my motivation in this scene it's never about what is the actual temperature in this scene you know you don't talk about that so it's very difficult to play that for sure yeah sometimes it can be tricky because it's it's not at all the temperature that your story is is trying to tell correct it's usually the opposite right usually the opposite yeah Torres is is really you know yeah she's she's losing it well she's losing it because we talk she talks about how clingons are not really great in terms of dealing with cold temperatures like that right that's that's been established earlier in your conversation so in that scene in the scene that you're talking about now she's she's literally about to just collapse and collapse and i and paris is on your

feet now torres that's an order he's yelling at her and he picks her up and he's holding her up and trying to talk her, you know, through this and holding her very tight to keep her warm. And suddenly they're translocated back to the prison planet where the rest of the crew is. And we go off of Susan Lewis's look. Okay. So that's when you guys come back, hold on. You guys come back in. But if you look, I'm going to look at what John Tampoy is doing. No one else is smiling, but he is smiling at you guys. when you guys are back in. I don't know what that was from.

What direction was given? I think he's smiling because when we're beamed in, we're holding, it looks to them like we're making out. Okay. They don't know where we're coming from. They don't know the rest of the crew when we beamed in there. Look at the look on your face there.

That's called overacting. That's a caption. That's called overactive. Can we caption this please, guys? Thank you. Okay. Who farted? Who farted?

Yeah, but Susan Lewis. So again, they play the beam in off of one of our standings. in and background's faces, she looks over, we hear it sound, and then the camera pans over and there's I didn't even see Susan. So she's in that scene? She causes the, uh, she causes the camera to move then? They follow her look. Okay. Yeah. All right. Cool. I didn't know. Um, and, uh, good eye. And, yeah, another money saving moment, which, yeah, but I thought it was cute because

everybody thinks that, you know, Balana and Tom or must have been making out somewhere when really she was about to die. Right. Um, right. So it was a, It was a cute beam, and then we go back to the ice caves and Janeway translocates inside there and tells them, you guys are going to have to surrender and they refuse. Yeah, because she has translocated Rizlund and Damar off of Voyager's Bridge into the Argala habitat, and they're now super freezing, right? Because yeah, these Narians can't handle the cold. Yeah.

And she says, if you don't surrender, then I'm going to translocate each and every one of your kind into this cave into this cave yeah yep yeah so they they they basically say okay fine bye fine yeah and uh they agree and yay we cut back in the cruise on board and we hear that uh the captain has has gotten all the other aliens that were prisoner to in touch with their home planets and they're beginning to return back to their home worlds right so happy ending there um we go on to the Hala deck. The Hala Resort. The Hala Resort program.

We see Torres enter and walk over, and there's Paris laying on a getting some sun. And I wrote them a little exchange. I like the scene too. I love the scene. It's the best. Things were pretty chilly there for a while. Things were chilly. I'll be her.

I'll be her. And then you can say, you have the line too for you? Yes, I got the line. All right. I'll be a lot of. She says, nice day. Beautiful. Things were pretty chilly there for a while.

I guess they were. Feels good to be warm again. Yeah, sure does. Yeah. Oh, that's a scene. And you know what? Lisa Klink, look at this. Wonderful.

In essence, this scene, yeah, it's about what happened to them. But really, it's about we argued, we're over it. We're back to normal. we're still great friends. Let's continue our relationship. That's what I got from this scene. And again, you know, this is, I like writing like this because, you know, whenever you're not hitting the nail on the head, it's so much better. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So they're playing this, they're, they're playing the subtext in the scene. Yes. On the nose. Yes, which is great. It's wonderful. Great ending scene. So good job, Lisa Klank. Yeah, Lisa. Yes. Okay, what's your lesson?

my lesson was just because something looks innocent don't assume that it is oh it's kind of don't judge a book by his cover but when these guys first started arriving we were like oh they must be innocent it's kind of my my issue with when the first guy appears and tom doesn't grab a bat list right grab something and like wait a minute I need to I need to know for sure that you're trustworthy before I trust you yeah um so yeah that's my theme. Just because something looks innocent, don't assume it is. Yeah, that's a good overall theme. That's good over. For me, I have a couple themes. Number one, if you already have the technology, build your own dadgum ships instead of hijacking other people's ships. Okay. So that's one lesson. It's a good lesson. Build your own dadgum ships. Dadgum ships, dead gum. And then my other lesson is

that sometimes we must learn to improvise to survive. Yeah. I like that one too. Yeah. Good themes. All righty. Well, very good. That was fun. I still give it an 8 out of 10. I really like this episode. And I give it a 7. And thank everyone for tuning in to this episode of Delta Flyers. Join in next week when Robbie and I will be reviewing the episode Worst Case Scenario. Yes. Thanks, guys. See you guys. See ya.