The Delta Flyers - Dramatis Personae

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

The Delta Flyers is hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, Terry Farrell & Armin Shimerman. In each podcast release they will recap and discuss an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. This week’s episode is, Dramatis Personae, hosted by Garrett Wang, Robert Duncan McNeill, and Terry Farrell.Dramatis Personae: Odo is caught in the middle when an alien influence pits Kira against Sisko in a deadly power struggle. We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Production Managers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Executive Producers:Stephanie Baker, Jason M Okun, Marie Burgoyne, Kris Hansen, Chris Knapp, Janet K Harlow, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, Mike Gu, Tara Polen, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Lisa Robinson, Alex Mednis, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Roxane Ray, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Jonathan Brooks, Gemma Laidler, Rob Traverse, Matt Norris, Stephanie Lee, Izzy Jaffer, Jan Hanford, & Sam MikelicOur Co-Executive Producers:Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Luz R., Dannielle Kaminski, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Captain Jeremiah Brown, E & John, Deike Hoffmann, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Tom Paynter, Jenna Appleton, Lee Lisle, Sarah Thompson, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Mark G Hamilton, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Mary Burch, Sandra Stengel, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlman, Darryl Cheng, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Tim Beach, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Tae Phoenix, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Danie Crofoot, Steven Lugo, Penny Liu, Lisa Hill, David Smith, & Stacy DavisAnd our Producers:Philipp Havrilla, James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Meredith Hudes-Lowder, Trip Lives, Samantha Weddle, Chloe E, Paul Johnston, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Jocelyn Pina, Mike Fillmon, Chad Awkerman, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Maxine Soloway, Barbara Beck, Brianna Kloss, Dat Cao, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Vikki Williams, Cindy Ring, Alicia Kulp, Kelly Brown, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Rob Johnson, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Dominique Weidle, Justin Weir, Jesse Bailey, Mike Chow, Kevin Hooker, Matt Edmonds, Ryan Benoit, John Richardson, Heather Selig, Rachel Shapiro, Clark Ochikubo, Stephanie Aves, David J Manske, Seth Carlson, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Tim Neumark, Will Forg, Ryan Tomei-Sigurðarson, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, James Lyszczek, Russell Nemhauser, Lawrence Green, Greg Kenzo Wickstrom, Lisa Gunn, Lauren Rivers, Jennifer B, Dean Chew, Linda Daireaux, Mars DeVore, Jennifer Vaughn, Walkerius Logos, PJ Pick, Preston Meyer, Ryan Mahieu, Andrew Cook-Feltz, Karen Galleski, Rik Moran, Constance, Loretta Reyes, & Timothy McMichensThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at [e-mail].”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Greetings, everyone. Welcome to the Delta Flyers Journey Through the Wormhole with Quark, Dax, and their good friends, Tom and Harry. Join us as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Deep Space Nine. Your hosts along this journey are Terry Farrell, our enchanting science officer. Armin Shimmerman, our beloved small business owner, Garrett Wong, the Forever Ensign and myself, your favorite helmsman, Robert Duncan McNeil. Today we've got Terry with us. Terry, great to see you. Hi, everybody.

Great to see you all. I missed you guys. It's been a while. What have you been up to, Terry? Oh, wow. My sister came to visit me. Oh, how was that? It was so great.

We went to this spa called Ojo, had the best massages. and the hot tubs were outdoor hot tubs that were 104 degrees, which blissful. That's great. Lissful. Yeah, it was great. And I cooked for her and she was so happy. Yeah. Older sister, younger sister?

Where is the sister? Younger, but we're super close. We're Irish. So that says we're very much. And where does she, where did she come visit from? Did she come from Iowa or where did she come from Iowa? Yeah, she came from Iowa. I flew her in from Iowa.

And Max comes next week with his girlfriend. So I'm excited about that happening. Yeah. So first couple days in Chicago visiting his dad, then he's flying out to see me. How long has he been dating with this girl? They have been friends. I don't know for a while. So, but I like her.

Oh, good. She's got her head on straight. She's a really kind person. And so superficially, she's also really pretty. bonus that's a bonus a bonus mart yeah she's majoring environmental science she's a very interesting person yeah yeah and it's good so far she's a keeper so far she's a keeper yeah you're from iowa captain kirke's i'm doing this i'm doing this convention this summer it's like an hour from cedar rapids so i'm going there and that's the end of june and kate's from iowa my mom knew her dad

really wow isn't that wild that is wild your mother new Kate Mulgrew's father father we have a new profit don't we yes we do we do have a brand new profit so let us welcome Jan Hanford to the profit level welcome Jan welcome Jan welcome Jan is there a secret profit handshake or something no but just again Delta Flyers journey through the wormhole that's the it used to be our secret handshake was this, this flying like that. That's it. Just Delta Flyers. Yeah, Delta Flyers. The journey to the wormhole going like that. And you'll have to be a Patreon patron so you can see the video so you can see what the secret handshake is from Garrett. What is the episode this week, Garrett?

Dramatist Personae or persona or do you say persona? Persona. Persona. Persona ae. Well, they added It's me at the end. Persona. I don't know. I'm not going to say it. Tomato. Exactly. Can we start this episode with our poetry synopsis right now?

Yes, we can. Okay. Right. Mine is so silly. Can I go first? Yes, go with your silly one, please. I'm going to go with silly. I'd love to hear silly.

Where does the mind go with energy matrix flow? You must pick aside. Then I run to hide. Us versus them. I will count to 10. Very good. Okay, it's silly and weird, and it's kind of like I've revisited the Wadi's by counting to 10. I love your poetry.

I like it. Yours is the closest to real poetry that all of us have, honestly. Oh my gosh, the closest, but not anything. Well, we're all not getting published anytime soon. No, I don't think. We may publish our own Delta the Flyers version of this poetry for the poem fans. That might be good. Yeah.

Yeah. We may have to collect it altogether. I'm going to give you my limerick now. A Klingon ship mysteriously explodes out in space. Then everyone's personality is suddenly replaced. A mutiny starts. Odo solves it with his smarts. Whatever happened to Quark's awkward neck brace?

Oh, I thought that was great, Robbie. Pretty good. It's not bad. I like it. Thank you. Well, I like it better than mine. No, yours is poetry. That's just a little silly. No, don't put yours down. If you're going to put mine up, we all have to be up there together.

Okay, I'm up to. We do not have our resident linguist here. Armand is not here. I've decided to look it up myself. So dramatist persona is the plural of the noun dramatist persona. Okay. So it is, it's a plural noun. It says the characters of a play, comma, novel. comma or narrative. That's interesting. Especially because we, aside from Odo, we all got affected by it. Everybody who was in office. Everybody took on a character. Yeah.

Yeah. It comes from the mid-18th century from the Latin word, literally persons of the drama is what the origin is. All right. Thanks for the linguistic lessons. I love that. Oh, I also have a haiku, which I almost forgot to do. here we go here's my haiku for this episode cling on ship destroyed everyone starts acting odd

odo saves the day that's nice yay it's quick it's really quick yeah hikus are very very nice and clean and simple i like yeah let's talk a little bit about these guest stars just uh who we have tom how do you pronounce T-O-W-L-E-S. Is it towels? T-O-L-E-S? I don't think it's Toles. I think maybe Toles. Who knows?

We're having a lot of pronunciation issues. And I'm sure we'll have many people writing in and telling us how to pronounce the name of this episode as well as our guest star, Tom, W-L-E-S, who played the Klingon First Officer. We also have Stephen Parr or Stefan Parr, who played the Valerian. captain. We have Randy. Okay, how do you pronounce this guy's? P-F-L-U-G as a last name. Okay. Randy. Flew. Yes. Randy Flug. As a guard. He was Colum-Sand-in. Oh, that's Colin Stanton. He was the guard. And then Jeff Pruitt played the ensign. So those are

the people that we have. So was he, was he the one that was guarding the door or was he the one that was trying to show the pejoran that was trying to like put the needle into the neck he's that he was the uh star fleet officer outside of the hallway when odo comes up and it's like what are you doing here and all right yeah and he's guarding cisco's corridor yeah okay uh written by joe monoskey is this the first script of ds9 that joe has written i think this is yeah first one i've seen Okay. Now, do you recall meeting Joe Manoski at all, Terry? Do you remember anything? Remember Joe? No, I don't. He was a mystery man. He was a mystery man. So Joe, you should remember him? Did he write a lot of your shows? Well, he did, but here's the crazy thing. When he wrote for our show, he was not in Los Angeles. He wasn't in America. He was in America. He was in Spain or Italy, wherever he was. He was living in Italy. He was writing from there and sent. ending in his scripts and everything from there.

Very smart man, right? He was very good friends with Brannon. I think they both kind of come up during TNG and they really, their personalities hit it off and they were good friends. And if I'm not mistaken, he is very averse to getting on to an airplane. So he takes a ship back and forth between Europe. I think you're right. Yeah.

And directed by Cowboy Cliff Bowell. We have Cliff as our director. Yay, Teddy Bear. Love, love Cliff. Yeah. So I was wondering, Terry, I asked you about if you met Joe because I'm wondering if he was still, if he was in Italy at this time. You know, I don't even know if he was in the U.S. at this point. We're still in the first season.

You know, we hardly ever saw the writers for me. The couple of times I did meet them, it was generally in a big mass. So you're like meeting 10 people. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And I don't remember their names. Unless they say something.

to you that really sticks out to you. I mean, there are a couple where it's like a nice thing and you remember them. And there's always someone who says something stupid that you go, now I'm going to remember you now too. You bring up, Terry, you bring up a group of 10 of them, several of the writers together. And you know how you, if there is several crow, it's called a murder, right? And if you have, yes, if you have a group of flamingo,

it's called I think a flamboyant or something like that it's not a group of and then so I'm wondering what is a group of writers is there a special name for a group of writers is it called a script is it called a script of writers probably I don't know let's make it up word processor of writers something like wow crows are murder if it's how many a flock several several of them is a murder what if they're ravens because I think ravens are well first of all they're bigger yeah i think they would be scarier maybe that's just maybe that's just an assault it's not as hardcore as a murder yeah the ravens are a group of assault something like oh i just think the ravens would be far more dangerous to be then then the crows

okay yeah if you see one next to the other a crow looks tiny next to a raven okay yeah so terry okay if crows are more hardcore sorry ravens are more hardcore than crows of crows a group of crows as a murder, a group of ravens, is an annihilation. Is that true? No, I just made that. No, we're just making it up. I'm making things about a massacre. A massacre.

Oh, that's even better. A massacre of ravens. Just sounds like it hurts. I like that. Annihilation feels like it's going to happen so fast. I'm going to be evaporated. I won't know. Right.

I just looked it up. Do you want to know what a collection, a group? A collection noun for a group of ravens is an unkindness. Stop it. What? Wow. It's so anti-climactic.

It's an unkindness. I am like so disappointed. It's very poetic, though, at the same time. An unkindness of ribbons. I don't know. I'm happy when I see them around my house. I think they're cool. They sound cool.

Does it pop up as anything if you type in a group of writers? An anthology of authors. A scribe of writers. A scribe of it. I think people just made these out. All right. They're making it. An anthology of authors, though.

I like that. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds good. Jumping into it, original air date was May 31st in 1993. Yeah. Not that long ago.

No. We start off in the commander's office. Kira is telling Cisco that this Valerian ship wants to dock at the station. And Kira really does not want this ship anywhere near the station. Yeah, she bristles. She bristles. Yeah. Yeah.

It's all about dolomite. Dolomite. That's the, Dolomide, this is right. Weapons grade dolomide. I put a T in there incorrectly. I think it's D at the end. I think Dolomite is an actual mineral.

It's a real mineral. And they made up this dolomide, I think. Oh, that sounds. I think is like a Star Trek. That makes that. Dolomite, real dolomide Star Trek. I think so. Weapons grade.

So highly refined dolomide can be used for weapons. And so they have a history, these Valerians, of transporting this to the Cardassian forces during the occupation. So she's obviously on edge, clearly. But also, Cisco goes on to explain that dolomite is also used for a lot of other things. Correct. Not as high of a grade. So her idea.

A lot of normal everyday things. Yes. Yes. So it might be there. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Now, here's the big question because in this scene, she pronounces B-A-J-O-W.

are as Bayjor. It's a hard J. Now, when I asked, when I asked Armin on a prior episode, how do you pronounce it? He says Bejure. He does a juz to it. And also you, Terry, in this episode, say Bejure, you judge it as well. So that's interesting. Tomato. Tomato. And I do too. Listen to the computer in this episode, the computer says it the way Kira does, Bejor, no zh in there. Did you guys have, Terry, a pronunciation guide at the beginning of your scripts? Like for all the alien words, we used to have that. I wonder if it was in the pronunciation guide and no one paid it.

No one looked at it or something. Well, sometimes it had to do with whoever said it first, but then you have to catch somebody saying it differently. Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, I don't know. First of all, we're talking 30 years ago. That's true.

It's true. But I think a lot of the tomato tomato goes with a lot of pronunciations in the show. Yeah. In terms of names of aliens. Yeah. Because if you had an accent, you'd say it different. So in this scene with talking about Bay Jor, Kira says, we don't want him to dock here. And Cisco is a little skeptical.

He says, if you bring me some evidence of this, you know, that can prove we're dealing with. He wants proof. Yeah, weapons great stuff. And otherwise, he wants the ship to dock. He's late, unless you can bring me proof. Yeah, but even if he has proof, he even says in this scene, then we're going to lean on our Starfleet, you know, back around our, the fact that Starfleets here saying that we won't trade with you anymore if you do this.

So they're not going to strong arm them, eject them from the station, take their cargo, like the way Kira wants it to be done. Even if she finds proof, he's still going to go about it the diplomatic way. The Starfleet way. So there's the beginnings of a conflict here, which is going to get much worse later on. Much worse. So we go to Ops and Dax has a message for O'Brien that Keiko and the school kids have arrived safely on Bay Jor. It was all the school kids.

I thought it was just her and her daughter. No, it was 11 school kids because he makes a comment. That makes me feel so much better because I am like, okay, I'm sorry. But where is Jake? Right, exactly. You know what I mean? So Jake is, no, Jake's there with them. My missing scene has changed now.

Both Jake and Nagar there. Oh, it's different now. Okay. Because there's a quick line in the background, Terry, where O'Brien goes like, he's like, he goes, I can't imagine, you know, being a bored school kid, stuck at a grain facility, a grain center or something. He says 11 school kids. Good.

Yeah. I like your, that was my off the cuff of Brian right. They're really nice, really nice. Dax has this message that they're all safe and they're visiting this grain processing center and O'Brien's very glad it's not him. Yeah. And then Odo gives Kira some information

about the Valerian ship's captain. Odo arrives and hands over at that. Yeah, suddenly they look on the view screen and this Klingon ship is coming out of the wormhole and we see it come through the wormhole, kind of like the wormhole behind me right here. And just as it comes out, it explodes. for no reason, for no apparent reason.

And they realize that a Klingon is one of the Klingons is trying to beam into ops. They have to stabilize the field to get him to transport over, but he's very badly injured. And Bashir tries to take care of him, I think, but he says something like, victory.

And then he goes. Yeah. But I want to give credit to Dax. He says exactly that. Dexter. You're the one. You're the one that brings the science in this episode, Dax.

when he can't beam in, you're like, maybe we need to boost the annular confinement field or something like that. So more science. It's more science from you. Science officer. That's a lot of it. Those two just take care of business. You know what I'm saying?

But what is he doing in ops? Why was he there? I don't know. That was really weird. That was like, he was only there to get infected. He was, because I did not believe he was there. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have.

So, okay. You know what's funny. We already know. He shouldn't have been there. But he, okay, you guys remember the episode. But then call him after the Klingon, then the Dex to, Bish, to infirmary. Yeah. Bashir, you need to come to the.

Yeah. But he shouldn't be there. Right. And this is weird. And he's working at my other little desk. Like, what's he working at my desk? Yes. But isn't this deja vu?

Why? Tell me what episode. Same thing where he brings on the killer, Vantica. It was again through. Bashir, that it got transmitted. Fentica with that fingernail in his neck when he's grabbing him. And then that serial killer is inside his body. And now this crazy energy field is actually inside.

Yeah, it transfers from directly from the dying Klingon to the closest organism, which would be Bashir. All of us enough. Yeah. But then Bashir and then it jumps from Bashir to everybody else is what of my assumption is. They don't tell the exact process of how everyone got it. But Garrett has the exact. has the exact he has it all in his mind he's got it all yeah you got it all worked out in my mind

it's very it's very it's very it's very quick it's bam bam bam it just goes across you know i don't know after bashear says he's dead we go to a space shot and we see the station Cisco's got a station log started at 46922.3 he says we've identified the dead cling on his name is on how do you pronounce on tea on tea yes first officer of the Tocot, why he died and the cause of the ship's destruction is still unknown. Yes. We jump to Ops, and Bashir is basically giving his preliminary analysis inside of this dead Klingon.

There's tritanium fragments, so obviously some weapons. There's also his energy weapons that were used on him. Cisco orders him to find out what kind of weapons. The Tocat, the Klingon vessel, was on a routine, biodeon. survey mission. So nothing that would have involved firefights with anybody, that's for sure. And it was by itself and it came out of the wormhole. It looked totally fine. So Bashir does send Odo to find out if anyone on the station has heard anything more about this bio survey mission. He also sends Dax and O'Brien to find the mission recorder, aka the Black Box, in the hopes

that they can find out what caused the explosion. One quick question to both of you. This was a question on the cruise when we played the Trek Hollywood Star Trek Squares game. What color is the actual black box on an airplane? It is red. I would guess red, but it's not black. Why would they call it a black box if it's red?

Yeah, it's not black, and it's actually not red. It's Robbie's favorite color. What? Orange? Yes! That is the color. That makes sense. Yeah, the brightest you could possibly be.

Orange is brighter than red, so it makes sense there. Yeah. Did you say at the end of the scene, though, that O'Brien? Yes, I'm about to go there. O'Brien is leaving. Yeah, O'Brien leaves. But Dax stays. He calls to her, and Dax is really zoned out, kind of staring at the display in front of her.

And then she kind of laughs. And please tell us, Terry, what is going on here? Talk to us. Sinility. Sinility. I was watching it and I was like I look really tired

but kind of purposefully because my eyes kind of look like I don't know I look checked out as soon as that Klingon I look checked out so you already got infected

by the energy yeah oh yeah absolutely she's acting weird I'm acting super weird and when I was like oh sorry I loved that

Dax was very specific and different than everybody else's way that they were infected. She was hilarious to me. Well, we do go to a space shot. We see the runabout depart there and we're back on ops a little later. Kira's working at a console. When the Valerian ship arrives and she tells this captain, the captain of the Sherval Das, I think is the name of the Valerian ship. He says, there's a delay. Sorry, you can't come here.

And he's like, wait, we really need urgent maintenance on our, on our Sherval Doss ship. Yeah. And she's like, sorry, you know, we got our own problems. Oh, no. And she's not nice like you. You're way nicer than she was. Oh, my gosh.

She has so much attitude. Oh, my gosh. Oh, yeah. And Cisco appears. He pops in over her shoulder and, uh, and asks her for an explanation. She says, this is the last stop, uh, that they could have been to ultimate fuel. Is that how you say it? Ultimate.

We're having pronunciation issues today. No, you got, I am. I am. You got her right, yeah. Ultima Thule, they could have been there, and that's where they can purify this dolomide. I wanted you to pronounce the other two stops, though. What were they? Okay.

Falini 3 and Mariah 4. Felini? Federico Felini 3, the Italian city. That's because Monoski lives in Italy, and he probably did that. I thought it was Spanish. But it was, it was, yeah, it was either Italy or Spain. It was Phelina 3, Phileena 3, not Phileena. you know and mariah four the first two stops and then the final stop was like you said

ultima thule ultimately yeah you pronounce that right but she says that's where they can purify this stuff and i just have to place them there and i can prove to you right that they're bad guys and cisco yeah he doesn't buy it he tells them they can dock kira is mad at the end oh my gosh she's so frustrated you could see that and it's interesting that the first scene they were not infected So there was the beginnings of a conflict that this possession now is just amplifying. So it's hard to know, like, is it just the possession or is it, you know? Yeah, no, it doesn't feel that way. I think the only indication in the first, you know, 15 minutes or so, maybe a little less,

is that I act weird. Yes. But it does, because the way I'm acting weird, the way I'm acting weird does not seem. dangerous. No. And she has PTSD from being in war ever since she was baby, right? Correct. So she, her stuff feels understandable. She's not paranoid. That's that's post-traumatic stress. She has very good reasons to be afraid. I just imagine when you said that she was in war since a baby that she had her pacifier fighting out the Kardashians. Get back. Yes. It's a little baby. Yeah. Terry, I don't think you would remember this, but I have to ask.

ask you. Do you know if your choice to portray sort of this giggly, smiley thing, do you know if that was in the script? I think it was something about me being senile. When I'm looking at, yeah, yeah. I think that's how they, there must have been how they described it. Yeah, because I'm remembering things. I'm very, I'm reminiscing. I lost in the past. That makes a lot of sense. And there's a one point later in the episode where Kira even says, you already told me that story. And senility is part of saying the same story over and over again in the same day back, or even the same hour, practically. And not remembering what's happening in real time, short-term memory issues, but not long-term memory issues. But I did read it in a recap that I looked

over so that I, because there was a point where I said. And it mentioned senility. Interesting. Yeah. I love your take on it because it's hard to know what is going on. But yeah, you're definitely not scary. No. And I imagine Dax doesn't want to pick sides either. Terry, I did find that because this episode is filled with so much tension and so much violence and so much death and destruction, your character was like an oasis for me. Like every time you came onto the screen, I was like, oh, I can bring it now. Like this episode was just daggers. It was just entertaining. and funny it was fun to watch you know yeah i thought it was fun to watch nanah in it because i i found it interesting that she got to especially with odo she got to try to do everything she could be

seductive being you know she tried to justify things and she even tried to you know um strong arm him threaten him. She got to run the full range, right? Yeah, she really did. It was a great episode for her. It was an acting exercise, acting class. If she was all over, she could get to do all the things, which is great. Okay, we're going to jump into corks where Odo comes to interrogate or ask questions of cork about the Klingons.

One thing I want to say about, you said he comes to interrogate, but he's kind of fishing. He's like, not straight out letting cork know. So let me take that back. It's not interrogating. He's just, yeah. He's bringing up at. as a casual conversation. He's manipulating him.

He is. And Cork's not picking up on that. No, until he does, until he does. But Hall of Sweet 6 is indeed still under repair after the Clingons used it. And I loved how Odo's lines, or actually, it's going to be Mnowski's line, he goes, they do tend toward bluster, don't they? He says that. And I just love that little, you know, that's a great description of playing on.

Yeah, it really is. So Odo wants to know more about this bio-survey mission. Quark wants to know what he will receive in return for information that he gives Odo. And that's when Odo threatens to remove repair crew seven from the Holliswee to reinforce bulkheads and security. And of course, Quark relents and says that the Klingon said that they would be returning from the wormhole with something that would make the enemies of the Klingon Empire tremble. Which at this point, if you're watching this episode, you're like, what the? What the, what the what? Yes.

Yes. Yes. Odo thanks him and starts to leave when suddenly this freaked me out. He grabs his head and he turns around and his head like vis-effects what goes inside out. Yeah, he went inside out and then back to normal again, which was like a horror movie is what it was like to me. And didn't Renee do a great job? Oh, my God. I thought that was excruciating.

to watch him go through that yeah yeah because he was screaming i mean he was literally it was oh he did such a great job oh my gosh yeah and that was probably not cheap doing that crap too great vis effects on that with with his head turning inside out and i guess he's blue on the inside he's kind of bluish wasn't it like wasn't it like a bluish color i didn't catch that gray blue but then who knows if that wasn't the it wasn't the oh yeah maybe it was the thing The possession. Oh, so the energy was trying to go into him. Yes.

And then it couldn't get it couldn't do. And he repelled it. He repelled it. The blue was the energy. That makes sense then. That makes sense now. Because when it leaves at the end, it's blue. It's blue.

Good catch. Good catch, Terry. I watched this one twice. Quark sees him fall down, though. This is kind of important. Quark sees him fall down and runs off for Bashir, runs screaming for Bashir. I love that. He really does care of him.

No, no, no. Yes. Initially, I said, why doesn't he just hail Bashir? But then I thought, wait a minute, he doesn't have a calm badge, does he? Not only that. Or can he say, can he just turn his head up? Computer. Hale Bashir.

He's right across the, he's right across the, I can't say street. He's right across the hallway. Is that where the infirmary is? Yeah, he ran right into the infirmary. That makes sense. But on the other hand, even if you could hail, even just seeing that happened

you're so shocked yeah yeah I think I'd have to run after saying that did you watch Armand when he came to Odo side he pranced like a nimble gazelle he went like just jumped right over

and landed down yeah he still works out I believe it yeah I'm not going to fight him I'm no don't fight Armin I'm not going to fight him with my muscles did you he's in good shape he is

he has good you're not going to use your gooder muscles he has gooder muscles are ferengi strong like are ferengi as a species would they be stronger than a human well I don't think he's stronger than

Kira that's true I think Ferengis have strength of will they have strength of will they're stubborn they're determined And to get that profit. Are pejorans stronger than humans? Because she lifts him up on the-

It's kind of weird how strong she was. It was almost superhero-like. Yes. She tossed him like a rag doll. And I was like, really? Is that a pejoran thing? Okay, wait, wait, wait. Maybe this entity.

Yes. The entity makes her stronger. The blue thing. Because what if, what if? Like, you know how if they have, and you know, you'd want to be this person. But if somebody has those extreme things at human beings, like if your kid got hit by a car and they picked the car up and you're those unexplained amounts of strength that happened, maybe that's what the entity did for. To her. That happens later.

Yeah. So we'll call that the Incredible Hulk syndrome, right? When you get all the extra power and you're like, yes. Yes. Yes. Then, yeah, Kira is definitely in the Incredible Hulk syndrome right now. Yes, she is. We're in the infirmary, Bashir is scanning Odo, who is laying down unconscious when Odo suddenly

regains consciousness, and it's as almost as if nothing happened. And the doctor basically, he doesn't understand Odo's makeup, his physiology, so he has no idea what happened to Odo, or if it will happen again. So Odo just thanks the doctor, and he starts to leave. But then Bashir stops him, and he says, do you share the same concern that I have regarding the Valerian situation? and they go into this whole talk about, well, at least Bashir goes into this whole thing about how there's going to be a bit of a power struggle.

Big trouble. Yeah, big trouble. And then he makes this really cryptic comment at the end. He's like, well, it might be too early to take sides. And so now we know, uh-oh, you know, this something is happening to everybody's brain. It's not just giggling from Dax. It's also Bashir. Wait a minute.

At this point, still, couldn't it just be something? I think the intention and the right. writing is that we're still supposed to be thinking, uh-oh. Yes, it's, we haven't seen. I didn't feel like it was an entity until I saw like Cisco being weird. Okay. I mean, I don't remember a mutiny show. So I'm kind of with Garrett, though.

I felt like Sid's performance in this coupled with your kind of giggilyness. I'm like, something's happening to more people. Yeah. Because his performance was very Shakespearean or something. It was a little, it was a little. it was a little formal for it was for him for him it was very different than who he is yeah yeah completely he's much more casual when he speaks with all of you guys you're right terry it's hard to know whether it's the authentic conflict just about the difference of opinion or whether

something more is happening it's kind of in a good way confusing you're not really sure yeah we go to the commander's office next Cisco is working on a unusually large pad or something on the table that he hides, he dives on top of it when Kira arrives. Cisco. And he's covering it like a kid. I love that choice. He doesn't want to show anybody his work. No, he doesn't want anybody to see what he's working on.

On the unusually large pad. But then there's a tell because that's weird. Yeah, it was weird. It was weird. He seemed like he was a kid in school. Like, it was very childlike some of his performance. It's funny that you mentioned that, Robbie, because this entire time, I've felt like Kira, when she was talking to everybody, was trying to get their vote for class

president. It was almost like, it was like a high school thing. Yeah, well, you know, yeah, you better be it with me. But she's like class bully. Yeah, she's bullying people to vote for her for class president is what he does. Okay. Yeah, but she says to Cisco, who's covering his pad, his giant pad, she says she has proof that the Valerian ship was at Ultima Prime a week ago and she wants to board this. Thule. Sorry, Robbie. Where? You said Ultimate Prime.

Oh, Ultimate Thule, yes. My God, man. Get it right. It's a totally different planet. It is. Ultimate Prime is not the same planet. I think that's where Superman came from. Exactly. That was, you got that right.

Okay. Anyway, she wants to board this Valerian ship. She wants to confiscate all this material. He says, who's authority? By whose authority? So they're starting to go get at it. And he goes. Yeah.

It's heat up. Yeah. certain heat up. She says, this is a Bajoran station. He says he's a Federation commander who's been given charge of this station. I am the one who runs it. That's it. Power struggle intensifies. Yes. He does say at the end, are you challenging my authority? And she says, no, no, sir. And he says, good. So things are escalating for sure. Any thoughts about this scene, Terry? I only think about the giant pad that he's like hiding. on the table.

I'm like, what that? First of all, I didn't know what it was. I thought it was like, it looked like a tray with food on it or something. And he didn't want her to eat his food. Stay away. Stay away. I have my cookies.

I just thought, I'm surprised he, well, even still, it was everybody was still minding their peas and cues to a certain degree. Yeah. Because this is the third time now that she, She's questioned his authority and pushed against him. Yeah. And but he's not really putting his foot down, down. Like I, I, I think that was like really.

She gets more and more out of control. Yeah. Well, he partially puts his foot down. This feels like third time deserves a, do you want to be court-martialed? Yeah. Do you want to lose your position as, yeah, yeah, exactly. less than just saying no act straight or you're in trouble you're going to be in trouble it seems like no you're already in hot water yeah it feels like high school or whatever you know middle school

like somebody so it feels like kids bickering with each other yeah that's what i got out of this one we have an exterior shot of the runabout and then we have the runabout interior scene with dachson o'brien as they're searching for the mission recorder o'brien brings up how aggressive of Major Kira has been acting towards Commander Sisko. And then he says that he's noticed how close Dax and Kira have become. So now he starts to question Dax's loyalty. And Dax gives this very ethereal sounding response sort of like, oh, I love Cisco.

I've known him forever. Of course, I'm with him. And it was just kind of creepy, to be honest. I was like, what's happening here? And then she says that she sides with Ben. and he gives Dax a final warning. Anyone who goes against Cisco goes against hit me. So he's really pissy about that.

So please talk to us about this scene. Well, I just thought that my character was sort of like, I don't really get why you guys are so upset. Yeah, I guess I am friends with Nana, or I am becoming friends with Kira. And, you know, of course, my loyalties with Benjamin because I've known him, well, I've known him a really, really long, time. Why wouldn't I side with him? I think that also my character doesn't see the conflict

yet. Right. Yeah. I haven't seen anything that's happening with the not or I keep doing that with Kira and Cisco in my face. So I don't think I probably understand where this is coming from. But obviously because of my diminished state, I'm not having a normal conversation where I could say, what are you talking about? Chief? Tell me more about it. Yeah, it's interesting when you, When you described it as sinility or, you know, something like that, it totally makes sense because what I loved about Dax in this episode is she seemed to sort of blow with the wind. Like if somebody said, do this, she's like, oh, yeah, okay, I'll do that. And then they said, no, no, no, turn the other way.

Okay, okay. It was very fun. It was just fun to watch because it was bizarre and just entertaining. I think she's very sweet in this episode. Yes, yes, for sure. At the end of this scene, they do pick up some transponder signal or something like that. So we know they've found whether... Oh, that's right.

Yeah. The black box. They do find the black box. The orange box. The bright orange. fluorescent orange. Yes, yes. Now we transport over to the security office and Kira arrives to cajole Odo to take her side on the Valerian matter.

her and she even lies and says that she was once the transport searched and then she realizes that Odo doesn't believe her and she's like oh I can't trick you Odo so she's she's right she's trying every tactic that she can she's so me and creepy

and yeah she's like yeah she's got it all going on in this episode yeah I like when he says okay I'll I'll do that I'll keep you both informed about what I find she's like whoa wait a minute yeah that's okay she's like i was lying

we have an exterior space shot of the station but oh go ahead right before you go to the exterior she also says choose sides oh no in this scene she said yeah so yeah at the very end she's like don't forget who your friends are basically yeah she says forget it bad idea going behind cisco's back but what if you had to choose sides just remember who your friends are yeah right he does make sense in a row where people are saying pick a side yeah Yeah, it's happening. Now we have an exterior space shot of the station with a station log from O'Brien.

I don't know if O'Brien's made one before, but it seems like this may have been this first time. And he's stating that they have retrieved a portion of the first officer's log. And Kira has already heard about it. She must have spies everywhere. So now we know Brian is completely paranoid about Kira. And it is up to him to personally protect Cisco. We're in ops. They're listening to a garbled journal entry about the captain going insane, the Klingon captain, that is, executing two more crew members.

The chief medical officer came to his quarters to tell them that violence is being caused by the energy spheres that they picked up in the gamma quadrant. And the first officer believes that the chief medical officer is the captain spy. So then you hear him saying, so I slit, and you know the rest of it was his throat. We don't have to, you know, hear all. Marbled. Clearly, there was some kind of mutiny among the crew of that Klingon ship, but it's all broken up. They're not getting a lot of details. And I love that Avery's sitting on the steps. He's sitting just like this on the step. Then it was like, oh, something really bad has happened for sure. Once we see him like that, it's like, yeah, you know he's not there. He says,

I don't want to hear anymore. And he says, I'm done. And O'Brien says, well, maybe the Klingons want to know what really happened. I can clear up the rest of the journal records. with, you know, running it through the computer. And Cisco says, I don't care. I don't care what happened to the Clingon ship. I don't care. I don't want to be bothered by it. He yells at him.

Yes. Because unbeknownst to us, he's still working on his creation, whatever it is, on the extra large pad. Yes. Yes. The big bad pad. Big bad pad. Okay.

And then El Brian says they're going to analyze this to find out more. And Dax starts to ask Cisco if he remembers a time when Cisco interrupts her. And leave, so... Right when I'm about to tell a story, everyone interrupts me. I want to hear your stories that everybody keeps cutting you are. Even on the shuttle pod with O'Brien. I know. I know.

I know. It's right. We go to Quarks next. Dax is drinking. Kira arrives. Quark tries to smooth talk the two ladies, but Kira says get lost, which I loved. And then Kira asks Dax if she's happy. She even asked Dax to, if she can try.

her drink, which I thought was kind of weird. It was like, what am I going to say? Yeah, I guess. I don't want any more of it now, but okay. And then she goes around and she pours more synthol in it. She's like, she tastes it. She's like, nope, not strong enough. Terry, I would have liked it if Nanah just grabbed it and just licked the entire rim.

After she drank and I handed it back to you. That would be your episode of directing. Imagine how, oh, man. I could hear those notes. But Kira does tell Dax, you know, you are very, very valuable. And she says, you know, Dax, you should call Starfle. Perhaps the most valuable person on the ship. Yes.

She's really kissing butt there, laying it on. Yeah, a lot of hot air in the room. Yeah. She says that Dax should call Starfleet and say the Bajorans are very unhappy with Cisco. I love in the scene. You keep drifting off into these memories, these stories. And finally, Kira just loses her patient, says she's going to get rid of Cisco. One way or the other.

Yes, I'm going to get rid of him and don't make me get rid of you too. She threatens Dax. Or Dax just wants to tell stories. I don't know why she's so mad at her. Yeah. I just want everyone to like me. Yeah. Without being a people pleaser.

She just, I don't want to pick sides. Yeah. It's the sound of a broken glass right here that sort of charred you out of this weird moment. And also, it makes Kira just make a B-line for Dax, a B-Lyline for Kork. Yeah, he's been ease dropping. Yeah, he's been e-dropping. Kira grabs him with her super Bajoran strength, I guess. Ask what he's heard. She says nothing.

Then she throws him up against the bar, like 10 feet across the bar. He flew. He literally flew. I bet he had, I bet he's the one who kind of sprung off of his feet backwards. Yeah, of course. I hope they had pillows on his back. They had a stuntman for sure. They had to have had a stuntman.

They did. What? I would think so. I just saw him. That was just one shot of her when she, when she threw him, it's clearly him. It's arm it hits the wall, though. You're saying that that was not him, Robbie? I don't remember if there was a cut in it.

But she was really scary and like, you know, made my character stop. Like, oh, now I'm afraid she's going to hurt me if I. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We go to the security office next, and this is one of my favorite looks Armand's ever had. Oh, my gosh. He comes in with this giant neck brace.

A futuristic neck brace. And Odo even does a double take. He sees him and look. Is that new fringy fashion? That's what he thinks. It's very funny. Yeah. But Quark tells Odo that he wants to press charges against Kira, that Kira was plotting

with Dax. He throws Dax under the bus, too. Or Dax? She was not, she didn't do anything. No. No, he says, Kira is plotting against Cisco. and she was trying to get Dax's support. And he says, I think she was on the fence.

Yeah, that's true. He does say that. Cork couldn't tell. Odo realizes that they're all acting strange. This is when he starts to put all this together, goes to talk to Cisco. And as he leaves, Quark yells, he wants satisfaction with his neck brace on. And then we never see him again. I don't think.

Yeah, but how about this? He yells that. And then he kind of relaxes. Like there's nothing wrong with his neck. Yeah, excellent, excellent, excellent acting choice by Arm and Zimmerman to do that, very funny. Yeah, we go to ops next. Dax is absorbed in a Klingon, in the Klingon entry, the video, I guess. My note says we find Dax lazily watching the Klingon First Officers log entries.

Does it not look like I'm just watching a TV show? Watching TV. That's exactly what I was like, huh? Oh, my God. Yeah. It's very funny. He's watching TV. Yeah.

Instead of very funny, I'm going to say Terry funny from now. Oh, I like that one. And Odo asks, doesn't he say something and she doesn't even respond? She's like, she says nothing. She's watching her TV show. She's watching her soap operas. My stories. Her stories.

Exactly. But in the commander's office, Odo comes in, finds O'Brien sitting at Cisco's desk, watching the same video, this Klingon video. Odo says, it sounds like a mutiny referring to the video, I guess. And O'Brien says, well, that's normal for Clingons. And Odo says, well, it's not normal for the Federation Station, though. And O'Brien tries to reassure him, don't worry, they'll be ready for anything. Kira tries.

O'Brien says he'll send the entries as the computer finishes them. He'll send them to Odo for him to analyze when the computer's done extracting them. And at the end, O'Brien has this weird comment where he's like, you know, don't the captain and I always take care of you, Odo? Everybody's acting very creepy. Yeah. Very creepy. But we go out into the corridor and Odo approaches Cisco's door. This is where the guards are.

This is where columns stand in has the line. Can I rewind just for a second? Yeah. Robbie and Terry, I find that the pattern here is series regular. says something odd, Odo leaves the room and stops and turns back to look at that series regular for a second and then walks on. That's the pattern for every scene. Every scene. Yeah. He's just, yeah, he's like, what the what? And then he leaves like that. Yeah. Okay. I think you're right. I think you're right. Yes. But yes, Odo sees the guard outside and the guard tells

Odo that O'Brien has ordered them to stand guard there. Inside Cisco's quarters, Odo comes in, and Cisco is drawing on this giant pad. Odo tries to discuss this Klingon mutiny and worries that things seem similar on the station now. He's trying to, he thinks Cisco is still normal, I guess. And Cisco just says, well, talk to O'Brien about it. And then he's very excited. He's finally finished his drawing, and Odo asked what it is. Cisco says a clock. It's a clock. Fascinating. What did you two think it was going to be? I'm very

curious. Did you always, I mean, what was your assumption, Robbie? I had no idea. I thought it was like a plan. Like he was concocting some plan or something. I thought it was multiple sketches of Kira's demise. Like one was her being thrown of an airlock. Another one was with her with a bat with stuck into her back another one was with her you know everything was basically kira getting you know eliminated it's like little stick figures of her dying a million deaths yeah that's what i thought and that's why he hit it from her to begin with hiding the beginning that's what i thought like this is her you know dying over and over again just a clock which by the way i don't understand the clock do you think there is a significance to that do you think it's completely

random or do you think it has to do with the energy aliens and somehow oh i definitely think it has to do with the energy aliens. I don't think, but the connection we don't. I don't know how, you know. Okay, here's, I first of all, I already knew it was a clock, so it's hard for me to go back and pretend I, right. But maybe part of what this energy is doing to us is whatever this energy is, is part of made him be able to build the clock.

Maybe this energy knows how to build a clock or knows how, you know. I definitely think it was the energy help make. making him, you know, plan the clock, build the clock. But why? Like to what is? But I'm like, obviously not in mutiny mode. No. No. And I don't think if Kira didn't get on top of him, he wasn't, he's not, Chief O'Brien's taking care of mutiny mode for, and Cisco's having craft sessions. So obviously the entity is if this energy matrix is effective. each one of us differently, it could also be the contribution from the actual matrix. Yeah, yeah.

Not just that. But not about the mutiny at all, having nothing to do with it. I think that Cisco's response to the mutiny has to do with his job, not because he's not acting like the mutiny is the most, is the paramount of importance to him. No, the clock is. Yeah. This alien race, were they exterminated because of this? Yes.

And so this is where the clock connection must come in because it's the actual time of the extermination maybe. Yeah. Because they're reliving. They're reliving the extermination event. Everybody is taking on roles of those aliens that died eons ago, right? So could the clock have, that's what I'm thinking. The countdown? The countdown.

The clock could be the countdown. The final countdown. Yes, it could be. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Very interesting. It's a mechanical clock too, which I find. Yes. Yes. You know. What's the other kind? Oh, you mean because it's from the 20th century? Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're going into security office now. Odo arrives in his office. He finds here in her chair. Kira's feet are up on his desk. Like it's her office. That was really irritating to me. That was just like so disrespectful. Very disrespectful. And then she has the seduction thing going on. It's like it's Odo. Yeah. She's very cocky in this scene. She's very confident. She's really great in it, but it's like so maddening. Yes. She says she's locked down the Valerian vessel. They can't go anywhere, even though

Brian won't be able to fix this for days. So proud of herself. She's so proud of herself. She's got her feet up on the death. She owns the station. She owns it. Odo says, are you going after Cisco now? And she says, yep, O'Brien, too. He tells Odo that now that she's running the place, Odo can run security however he wants to. She's not going to interfere. He can, you know, he doesn't have to follow Starfleet rules. So she's trying to tell him how great it's going to be if Odo joins Team Kira here.

And he's not showing his cards yet. He says, well, what's your plan? And she says, you know, I trust you more than anybody, but not right yet. I'm not going to tell you my plan, not until the time comes. and she leaves and he tries to call Starfleet like on the Starfleet channel you know for help she's blocked any of the communication he tries to call Bayjor

O'Brien blocked all communication to Bayjor and Starflea was blocked by Kira so yeah they blocked yeah they blocked each other from having backup and then Odo calls up this Klingon video and it says nothing on this planet but the telepathic records of the energy spheres were left so that's so now he knows kind of what the what the energy spheres are and he's starting to get a better picture yeah yeah from his first inclination of things

being wrong now he's like okay now I got some substantial information and then doesn't he go right to Dr. Bashir's office from there yeah we also know the race the alien race that was destroyed or the sultanah the sultan oh yeah And hearing that they were destroyed is when he jumps into action. Yeah, yeah. After Odo finds out from this Klingon journal entry that has finally been deciphered by the computer, he finds out some of this backstory. We go to the commander's office.

Cisco's working on this clock now that he had all the designs for. O'Brien warns Cisco that Kira is going to try to kill him. And Cisco wants to arrest every Bajoran on the station. O'Brien says, no, we can't do that. There's too many of them. A lot more than us star of leaders. O'Brien says we should leave the station. Oh,

and Cisco explodes. Freaks out. Freaks out. Never! That's probably the loudest he's been. Now, that was Shakespearean, that whole. Very Shakespearean. Very stagey. Yeah.

Sorry, that sounded wrong. It did feel like he was on stage, though. It felt, yeah. There we go. Thank you. That's a much better way of saying. He was projecting to the back of the house, clearly. he was. And that's the back of your living room. That's a long travel. He says he's going to

kill Kira himself. And O'Brien says, no, no, no, I got a plan. We'll return to Federation Space. We'll raise an attack force and come back and get rid of them all. This is like kids playing war. It is. It feels like kids playing Army. As this whole thing's going on, there's still that ultimate goal of everyone's trying to well everyone on one side is trying to free the valerian ship and everyone on kira's side is trying to keep the valerian ship because they talk about that here again o'brien's like i need a few more hours to free up the valerian ship and i've already talked to their captain oh yeah because the captain is willing to take us take them back to the federation space yes so this whole time even with his shakespearean delivery of i'll kill kira myself he's still

working on this clock. And finally at the end of the scene, the clock starts ticking. So that's the symbolism. Final count. Yes, the final countdown. We go to the infirmary. Odo visits Bashir, who's secretly giving up a jar on some little, something. The little needle thing.

So now you know Bashir is on Pira's side then, right? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You know that Bashir is on Kira's side. He's been on her side since that they're getting. Yeah.

And he tells Odo that he lies and says, oh, he's got horrible insomnia. I'm just helping him with his sleep. Yeah. Helping him sleep. And Odo asks about the autopsy of the Klingon, Bashir, again, warns Odo to choose sides here. Odo says, you know, this autopsy could determine who controls the station, Bashir. He asks, Bashir, could. the telepathic spheres have affected them all and cause them to reenact this power struggle that

destroyed the Sultahans. Odo basically tells Bashir, whoever controls these energy spheres controls the station. So he's manipulating him. He's very diplomatic because he's sort of like, yeah, he's staying. And it's really written well, isn't it? Yeah, it really is. It's really written well. Good job, Joe Mosky. Yeah. And he says, luckily, you and I are the only ones that aren't affected, Bashir, which I love that. Bashir's like, yes, you're right. Yeah, I'm not acting weird. No.

So Bashir goes to work to try to help Odo here. And yeah, I love when Odo says, I believe the Klingon, the Klingon brought the matrix with him and everyone in Ops was affected except for me. Without a humanoid brain, my system rejected it. And yes. And then Bashir says, that's an interesting theory. constable, but I'm certainly not behaving out of the ordinary. So I love that. It's a great explanation of life.

Just after he gives that assassination poison to the... Yeah, but I'm not acting weird at all. No, that's not weird. How I support my girl. Exactly. It's just part of my doctor job I do every day. We go to ops next, the Bajoran from Bashir's, that he was the guy who couldn't sleep, arrived, and sees Cisco and tries to jab him with this tiny device.

But O'Brien warns him and he yells this fight, this hand-to-hand fight starts. Wait, how about it would you see Cisco going? You hardly ever got to see him do that. Do that kind of hand-to-hand stuff? Yeah. This was a big fight. It was a long fight.

On multiple levels, he had to jump over railings. It was crazy. And I was shocked that that bejorin was not Dennis Madelone. I'm like, why is it Dennis? doing it. I know. Because the kid was good-looking. I guess they needed a good-looking bojorn boy. You know what else jumped out of me in the scene? Dax starts to call Kira and O'Brien back-hands Dax knocks her right out. Yeah. That's rude. Very good. I kind of remember doing that actually. It was a good hit. It looked great. So good, right? I think it's the

only time he's ever hit me. Working with Colum was always so hard not to laugh. yeah oh so to pull that off was pretty amazing yeah without laughing after he's laughing yeah you know like giving him shit you're you're gonna hit me you're gonna actually hit me how are we gonna work this out right but it was it was fun he telegraphed it kind of right he freaking clocked me no oh it was real man it was real you're a method actor column just just just just hit me go go go for it oh yeah well well cisco knocks this guy out he jumps over There's lots of hand-to-hand. I think Cisco even does the old Captain Kirk.

Double-handed. Double-handed. Yeah. And then he's about to use this device, the little poker thing. Let's see how this works. Wasn't it scary when he said that too? It was like, oh, oh, Cisco's so scary. Yeah.

Cisco's about to use this device when Kira and her team arrive with their weapons drawn. And they start to take, they're about to take Cisco and O'Brien Prisoner, when O'Brien hit some buttons and beams himself and Cisco off out of Ops. So they're on the run. And then Kira tells Dax, she was supposed to deactivate the transporters. And Dax goes, I forgot. I forgot. This is how she read it, Robbie.

She goes, she goes, I forgot. That's how she read it. Is that what I did? Yes, it was awesome. I thought I said I forgot how. No, you just went. I forgot. It was just really like, sorry, I forgot.

It was so cute. I loved it. Thank you. We go out in the corridor. Kiro's locked them out of transporting onto the Valerian ship. So they call Odo for help. He gives them a route to take to escape Kira. After Odo says, take this route, it'll get you to safety.

Cisco throws his com badge to the ground and tells O'Brien to leave his. O'Brien's worried. And Cisco grabs him by the shoulders and says, it's going to be okay. She hasn't got us yet. It's very dramatic. Yeah. But you're right, though. He goes right back to the playground of like, yeah.

We won't let her get on top of the mountain. He grabs him by the shoulder. Come on. Come on, man. You can do it. Yeah. Buck up. that's very funny

get your shit together man we go to ops kira realizes they left their com badges in the corner because she says they haven't moved yet what's going on I need to interject here there's been more comb badge

throwing just tossing than we'd ever had on Voyager or in season one everyone rips their com badge and throws it down to not be tracked it's like unbelievable well they learned their lesson with us they didn't do it to you

we didn't do that we didn't make that move now back in ops Kira realizes they left their combat Dax sees that the force fields are being turned off so we see this kind of map one by one yeah one by one boom boom boom

Kira calls Odo and asks whose side is he on and he tells Kira oh no I'm on your side I'm just trapping them in Cargo Bay 4 it's my gift to you he says right here accepts that she accepts that 100% yeah she's like oh my apologies

finally there chose yeah we'll meet you there. Cargo Bay 4. We go to the infirmary. Odo asked Bashir if he's almost done with this analysis. Bashir says, yes, he's created an ionic interference signal in Cargo Bay 4 that will drive the telepathic field out of everyone who was affected and it'll keep it suspended there. So Odo's satisfied and they head out to Cargo Bay 4. So it's going down in Cargo Bay 4. That's what it is. We go into cargo base, Cisco and O'Brien hit a dead end. The doors are locked.

Kieran Dax arrived with her phasers drawn. And Cisco has a big Shakespearean speech about how he's going to be legendary. Go ahead. Kill me. I'm going to be legendary. It starts off with like, I helped you with this. I helped you with that. I brought you in.

And what do I get back? Yeah. Insubordination. How do you repay me? Betrayal. But it's not about. big long speech, but it is a very large performance. It feels like this, this Shakespearean tragedy. He's still on top of his mountain. And you're not going to get back up it. You're not going to get it.

No. I mean, the flowery language he uses, you know, he says, I understand history. My name will blaze across the stars. Unlike you. Yes. I love his physicality as well. When he He's just very, you know, everything about him. Yes. Yeah. Let me demonstrate this to you. Yeah. Yeah.

And he had like nervous hands when he came. Oh, yes. He did. Oh my God. Like how would you get rid of all this energy? Yeah. Yeah. Odo and Bashir arrive as they're all in the standoff.

And Odo tells the computer to initiate program Odo one. So I guess he's never had a program before. This is number one. Odo's first program. Yeah, this is a big moment. It's his very first computer program named after him. And then suddenly this high-pitched noise starts and everybody grabs their head. Lots of suffering.

Very TOS. Yeah. That's why I was good at that. Yeah. You just picked up on all the cues from when you watched those TOS episodes. Yeah. I'm like, the six-year-old in me is like, oh, I remember this. Good.

And then the blue fog comes out of their heads, the blue cloud. It's almost like gas, like just everyone's, yeah, some gase anomaly. Well, thank God we didn't smell it. Yeah, exactly. Who farted would have been a nice line, yeah. Odo. Odo. Oh, no.

Who cut the cheese, Odo. The blue flog comes out, though, and they're back to normal. But that blue fog is the blue clouds are sort of hanging around in Cargo Bay 4. Odo says, grab something secure, everybody, and he hits a button, and the hatch to space opens up, and the vacuum of space sucks the blue fog out, and then Odo closes the door, and Odo says, welcome back, everyone. Yay. Do you remember shooting this with wind machines and all that?

It must have been. Yeah, I have a vague memory of it. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty dramatic. Of course, we didn't see space. Right. That was a different.

shot i don't know i just have a good memory of doing it that show having all the wind and everybody well and then there's cliff directing too so it must have been it felt you know like an even nice set to be on yeah he was around yeah yeah yeah you always felt like you were gonna you weren't going to work 14 16 18 hours no no david livingston 27 no no that's good enough good enough is Usually perfect. That's good. Yeah. Don't add more to it.

Yeah, I honestly don't even think he did second take. I think he just seems like, well, let's print it. We're good. One and done. Yeah, finished. Everyone's back to normal. Then we go out to space. We have a commander's log, start 8469 to 4.5.

Cisco says, with nothing to contain it, the telepathic matrix has dispersed in space. Meanwhile, I'm happy to report everything and everyone on board DS9 has returned. to norm. And then our last scene is in the commander's office. This goes at his desk. He's staring at this clock. Kira enters, apologizes for attempted mutiny. And he says, well, we'll let it go this time. And then he's left behind fascinated by his clock. I think you're right, Garrett, the alien clock must have been something to do with a countdown or something like that. Yeah, of that annihilation of the massacre, the final ending, final countdown. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's it. We got to the end of this one. We did.

Terry, what is your theme for this episode? Beware of the energy matrix. That's a good thing. Very good theme. Because honestly, I was trying to figure it out. And if we are not in our right minds. Mm-hmm. So. This was a hard one to come up with a theme. Yeah. I agree. What I wrote down is old story. can sneak up on you and lead you into bad decisions because we all have stories about our past

that are lurking somewhere, whether it's from our childhood or old, old stories that if we don't sort of process them and let them go, they're going to sneak up on us. And even subconsciously, they're going to affect how, you know, we can make some bad decisions based on that old programming. Yeah, without you realizing it, even seeping into different parts of your life that aren't obvious in your relationships or self care or any of those things oh yeah that's a really good one robbie yeah thank you i had a different theme but after listening to yours it just spurs me on a different path i'm going to say you know life has a way of throwing hurdles at you and if you don't figure out how to solve them in that particular moment you get to relive that same hurdle

later in your life the exact same one and it keeps throwing it at you until until you find the right answer, the good answer, not the vindictive, vengeful answer, but the answer that the universe nods and smiles at. When you finally found that piece, then that hurdle is no longer thrown at you. That's my lesson. History repeats itself. If we don't take it apart and change who we are to. Yes.

If you don't address the problem, you're going to relive that problem again and again. we finally opened up it up to space and now it's dispersed yeah so open your problems up to space everybody yeah just just jettison them out and don't stick your head back out again because but see but that's what's that's what's kind of like a little scary because it's still alive this energy it's going to float through space and two it comes is it or is it or is it or is it or is it more like Robbie's analogy that it can see you have to be careful because it can seat back in. Yeah.

Maybe. Be careful. Our Patreon supporters have a theme. They have a theme? Yeah, submitted and voted on by the prophets, admiral, captains, and majors. By Carolyn. Carolyn submitted this theme.

Paranoia leads only to destruction. That's a good lesson. That's a very good lesson. Yeah. On many levels. Big time. Carolyn. Thank you, Carolyn.

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