The Delta Flyers - Meld

Episode Date: November 30, 2020

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch and recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang and Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Meld. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.Meld:Tuvok is plagued by the senselessness of a murder aboard Voyager.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise, and Rebecca Jayne, and our Post Producer Jessey Miller.Additionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co- Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Peter Patch, Kelton Rochelle, Liz Scott, Sarah A Gubbins, Ann Marie Segal, Jason M Okun, Marie Burgoyne, Daniel Adam, Chris Knapp, Michelle Zamanian, Matthew Gravens, Brian Barrow, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, Megan Hurwitt, James Zugg, Mike Gu, Shannyn Bourke, Holly Smith, and Jesse NoriegaAnd our Producers: Chris Tribuzio, Jim Guckin, Steph Dawe Holland, James Amey, Katherine Hedrick, Deborah Schander, Eleanor Lamb, Thomas Melfi, Richard Banaski, Eve England, Father Andrew Kinstetter, Ann Harding, Gay Kleven-Lundstrom, Gregory Kinstetter, Laura Swanson, Luz R, Charity Ponton, Josh Johnson, Chloe E, Kathleen Baxter, Katie Johnson, Craig Sweaton, Ryan Hammond, Nathanial Moon, Warren Stine, York Lee, Mike Schaible, Kelley Smelser, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Katherine Puterbaugh, Claire Deans, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Matthew Cutler, Crystal Komenda, Joshua L Phillips, Barbara Beck, Mary O'Neal, Aithne Loeblich, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Dat Cao, Cody Crockett, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Oliver Campbell, Anna Post, Evette Rowley, Robert Hess, Vikki Williams, Cindy Ring, Nathan Butler, Terry Lee Hammons, Andrei Dunca, James Keel, Daniel Owen, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Ming Xie, and Mark G Hamilton Thank you for your support!Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome to the Delta Flyers, everyone. The Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager. Your two hosts along this journey are myself, Garrett Wong, and my co-host, ASMR style, Mr. Robert Duncan McNale. Robert Duncan McNeil. That's W.W.E. style. Robert Duncan McNeill. Look at the contrast. You've got the W.W.E style, and I have the ASMR style.

Yes, yes. What was I going to say? Oh, because of last week's threshold episode, we've been talking about adding a coffee brand to our store because Neelik says in the threshold episode that he's created a whole new blend of coffee after Tom breaks through. the warp 10 threshold barrier. Yeah. Neelix creates Paris Delight, the new coffee blend. New blend. And then we were talking about this just recently, and I brought up the fact that I said,

I am way ahead of you. My cousin is a coffee bean farmer in the island of Kona. And let's face it, Hawaiian coffee is the bomb. So I think this is a good possibility of, you know, some collaboration here. Paris Delight. Paris Delight coffee. That's very funny. Oh, my gosh.

We may have to come up with a whole line. We may have to become bigger than Starbucks because we're going to have to have like Nebula coffee for Janeway, you know, coffee from the nebula or whatever we call it, Paris Delight. There's a couple of blends that we could have it. We're going to be bigger than Starbucks, I feel. Are we Galaxy bucks or Universe bucks instead of Star? I mean, Starbucks is just one star, Delta Bucks. But can you imagine if this actually takes off and people,

talk about this decades into the future. Like, how did Delta Bucks get started? They're like, well, it was a podcast of all things. Of all three, two actors from Star Trek. There was this TV show where everybody loved coffee. Coffee and nebulas. Yeah. So this could be a really, really fun little side gig that we both have, right?

I drink a lot of coffee, and Janeway drank a lot of coffee, as we know. I'll be perfectly honest with you. I love the smell of coffee, but I cannot drink it. Really? Oh, my stomach is just torn to shreds. It is the caffeine in the coffee kills me. I can drink tea, caffeinated tea, but that regular coffee, oh, man, too acidic or something. It's too much. I guess. I don't know. I'm bummed. I mean, your coffee that you typically drink, do you drink every day you drink a cup of coffee in the morning? Oh, I probably drink three cups a day, four cups. Seriously. Seriously. So you in the morning, I have at least two cups. And I will admit, it. I'm excited about Paris Delight, our new coffee label, but my favorite coffee is my Nespresso machine. I use a Nisproso machine. Really? And I have a virtuos Nisproso machine. It makes all kinds of delicious gourmet coffees that are sort of whipped and frothy and really delicious. I love my Nisproso vorto machine. I really do. I have to admit.

Wow. Who's the celebrity pitches Nispresso? George Clooney, isn't George Clooney, the espresso spokesperson? Okay. We'll have to put some Paris Delight into an espresso pod. I think so. Or do some kind of co-branding with them because I only drink my espresso these days. Okay. We'll make espresso-specific Paris Delights to.

Okay. Just to satisfy you. That's all it counts, really. You know, as long as you're happy. Thank you. Yeah. What about Rebecca? Does Rebecca drink coffee with you?

Yes, she does, but she has a different machine. She likes her drip coffee. She has a different, she doesn't like my espresso. She likes a nice drip. Classic, she's a classic. Some people have his and her sinks. McNeil has his and her coffee machine. That's right.

We do, we do. Classic. Okay, good to know. Hey, man, what's this week's episode called? Let's see. It is called Meld. Meld. Meld is a is a is a Tuvac episode I think okay very excited by the way this has been fun lately

last week with threshold we got Cape Mulgrew to join us for a few minutes and give her thoughts this week I think we're going to be able to get Tim Russ to join us and talk about meld I haven't seen it yet I haven't rewatched it yet I haven't rewatched it yet I I'm very excited to first re-watch it, talk about that with you and him involved. I am excited, too. All right. So, Robbie, let's go watch this episode, Meld, and let's come back and talk about this and discuss. We are back from watching Meld.

I have to say, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-mm, mm-mm. That's how many. I had. Yeah, a lot of ums going on. I was scared. Hey, my memory is a little messed up on this one. I, I, in our, what do we remember, uh, bonus material for patrons. I talked about Souter trying to evade all the authorities and everything in the

Jeffries Tube. That's actually from a later episode. Yes, it is. It is with Souter. And I, and that is an episode that has not happened yet. But, uh, so my. My memory was off. Yeah, my memory was off too because I did not recall any of that Sandrine's story.

Oh my gosh. About the, you know, the gambling and all that stuff. Yeah. I didn't remember any of that. I do have to say, like, I like it when we have, like if you hadn't had that story in this episode, it would have felt so bodily and, you know, I like when there's other story. I just felt like in this instance, I felt like the gambling in Sondrians and the story of Souter were so completely detached from each other.

Like they had nothing to do with each other in terms of, I mean, maybe you could say the darker side of, you know, of people's, you know, we all have sort of a darker side if you want to call gambling or whatever, a darker side maybe, I don't know. I could not make a connection between the B story and the A story. They seem to have nothing to do with each other. That's true. I mean, well, if you talk about, you know, murder being a, would that be a vice? I don't know.

Maybe for a serial killer. It's a vice. Yeah, it's a vice for a serial killer, yeah. But then there's definitely, you know, there's definitely a negative connotation when it comes to gambling. You know, there's a lot of that saying that that is a vice, right? So you shouldn't engage in gambling or whatever. So maybe that's a very loose connection between the,

Souter storyline. Yeah, I don't know. But that's as close as we can come, really, in this one, because it had nothing to do with it. I was just going to add that the irony of the situation is that, although Tom Paris is the one who initiates the gambling racket, shall we call it, you know, or initiates the gambling sequences or scenes, in real life, it's me. I'm the one who's the gambler.

You know, I've always been someone who plays, you know, craps and blackjack, and I've bet sports gambling, you know, sports bets. I'm not a gambler in real life. In real life, you know, not at all. You would be caught dead in a casino, but you just, you have no inkling or no motivation. Am I right? No interest at all. There's no appeal whatsoever in, and I find that, that there's some type of genetic predisposition to gambling.

There may be. But yeah, it's a nice beginning, Sandrine's. Yes, Michael Pillar wrote the screenplay. Mike Sussman had the story. And Cliff Bull was our director. I love Cliff Ball. I love Cliff Bull. He did a lot of episodes for us.

He was just an old school, you know, straight shooter. I liked his confidence and his kind of, it was clear he was the director and the leader in the room and we got, we had shorter days usually with Cliff Bull. Yeah, he knew what he wanted. I have a limerick. I'm just gonna, before we get started in the plot.

Yes. So my limerick for meld, my limerick for meld is suitor was a psycho killer on board and murder we couldn't afford. So Tuvok performed a mine meld. His Vulcan violence was expelled. Meanwhile, in Sandrine's, nobody scored. Like, I got the B story in there, too. Nobody scored. Is that what you said? Scored. Scored. Scored. Yeah. Scored, yeah. Sitter was a psycho killer on board and murder we couldn't afford. So Tuba performed a mind melt. His vulcan violence was expelled.

Meanwhile, in Sandrine's, nobody scores. There you go. That's my limerick. Limericks are hard, by the way. They are. I'm so impressed that you've kept this up, this limerick synopsis of yours. But, you know, I think our listeners will have to agree that they probably prefer this over the long, meandering synops that used to come out of you.

I honestly, I went and took a nap and then I came back. And I still was synopsizing. You're still synopsizing, exactly. All right, let's do a haiku synopsis. Here we go. Souter kills Darwin. Tuvok mind melds with suitor. Bad, Mr. Vulcan.

Thanks. See, that's my shout out to Nelix. Neelix calls Tuvok Mr. Volcan. He's the only one that calls him that, right? By the way, did you see? in the, we'll get there, but it just comes to mind in case I forget. When in the holodeck, Tuvac was experimenting with his anger and reacts to Neelix and grabs him by the throat against the wall, you could see the prosthetic head being smushed. You could see the line so clearly.

Really? The prosthetic head was sort of, it was being pushed against the wall. If you go back and look, you'll see the shape of the prosthetic underneath and where it, it's glued and where it's not glued because it kind of mushes into a line. You can see it so clearly. Look at you, Mr. Observant. Yeah. I forgot to note that, but it just came to mind as we were talking about.

Huh. Huh. Okay. I like that. Okay. So we're in Sandrine's. And I feel like you kind of, even though we talked about last episode, you'd made the beginning of the turn, the transition into.

He goes back to his old ways. He's still going back. to his old way. He's like, now, how can I scam everybody out of their replicator rations? I'm going to do this. I know. I love that he called it the Paris Radiogenic sweepstakes. It's like, oh, dude, it's very funny. It is just taking a little commission for, but, you know, you as a gambler would say, like, well, you know, it's entertainment. Like, gambling is entertainment in a way. And so, Paris was providing a service of entertainment for the crew. And, you know, I also think that, you know, one of the themes of the episode is,

I like where Neelix talked about early on, he talks about it's Colrex season. And Tuvac goes, there's no season. Call rec is not a season. It's a day of morning or something. And then Neelix goes, well, what about Vulcan Romari? that's the festival of naked partying. And it sounded like Mardi Gras, honestly, to me. And so immediately I started thinking,

oh, this is going to be an episode about the dark side of our nature getting repressed, obviously, Tuvok and everything. But it's the same in Sandrine's. It's the dark side of our, you know, our gambling or taking risks or maybe drinking alcohol or whatever people,

you know, playing pool. It's all of those. The darker side of our nature, if we just repress it all the time and don't allow some escape valves that we're going to bottle it up and it's going to come out potentially in the wrong way.

So I think Paris was providing a service with the sweepstakes. It was. I'll buy that then. Okay. So then we had to, I think... Engineering. Go to engineering. We hear about the warp drive problem

and that it's maybe an EPS conduit situation. And suit, but Souter says everything's fine. Yeah, but we don't hear about it until Tuvok is called to, isn't he in the mess hall at the time when he gets called to engineering, when he discovers the body? Yeah, he's in there talking to Nielix. He's trying to make him laugh. Yeah, Nielix is doing his thing in this episode.

There's so many scenes of Nelix just, you know, his line delivery and just how he just, just everything was just on show for this, this one. It was like a Neelix showcase, a one-man show, was the other B storyline. Yes, I think that Ethan Phillips and Tim Russ had a really good banter between the two of them in real life. And they were good friends. They hung out. They were. And I think a lot of that comfort sort of came out in these scenes of the odd couple.

The Neelix, you know, they gave them a lot of dialogue to try to make Tuvok laugh. And Tim Russ was able to play the straight. man there. It was very funny. It was very sweet and very charming. Definitely. Yes, Mr. Darwin is dead. Two bucks called to engineering. They open up the closet. I couldn't tell what that was in the closet. Did you say open up the closet? They open up a closet and there's a body in there. But when they first revealed it, I couldn't tell what it was, but it was gross. It was like, it was like bloody, but I couldn't. It was very unclear what I was looking at for me. You saw the hand, though, right?

There was like a hand that was sitting there. I couldn't really tell what that was. I guess. Really? Yeah. Huh. Although my TV was very dark today. My feed, I don't know why.

Everything was very dark. So it could have been a setting on my TV. Okay. Could have been a setting on my TV, not the show. That could be it. Okay. Yeah. So then they discover, you know, they discover the body.

Then they start doing a little backtracking on seeing who was in engineering at that time, that Darwin was there. And it looks like there was only one other person, Souter. So, Tuvok begins his investigation by questioning Souter in his quarters. This is like the first time that I think we've seen, have we seen Tuvok's quarters before? I think we have, but we see a little more of it. Right before the scene, though, with the interrogation, they're talking in Janeway's ready room. And Chakotay starts, Chukotay starts saying, you know, I didn't really like this.

I didn't trust him. He seemed to enjoy killing way too much. Yeah. And all I could think of in that scene was, oh, thanks, Chacote. Why haven't you brought up this before? We've been out for a year and a half, and you haven't mentioned there might be a killer in engineering.

Like, oh, now you decide to say you've got a psycho in engineering? Like, that was, I wish he had said, like, well, I didn't want to bring this up before. It's probably nothing. I wish he had said something like that. Because as soon as he said, well, I never liked him. He always seemed like a psycho killer, a serial killer. I'm like, dude, why didn't you say something before?

Didn't Tuvok bring that up? Didn't he say, hey, why didn't you tell us that before? Someone says that. Someone actually voices that opinion. Oh, thank God. I didn't. Maybe I didn't hear it. Oh, good.

Maybe you didn't hear it. And they're like, don't you think this information would have been pertinent? I think it was Tuvok. Well, don't you think this information would have been pertinent for you to tell us this? And then Chukotay goes, well, I don't report hunches. You know, he doesn't know. Oh, that's right. That's right.

He just says something like that. Tell me my hunch, you know, that this guy's crazy, crazy killer. Okay. All right. So there was a little bit of, yeah, talk about that. So, but back into the quarters, I like, I like the wall. The wall adorn, what was adorning that wall was like, I don't know, was that a Vulcan sarcophagus or whatever?

look really cool. I just kept... I think Tuvuck has the nicest quarters, even nicer than Janeways. He's got a nice quarter. He's got good decoration. He's got plenty of room to meditate and do all this thing. He sure does. He sure. And then he had to go tear it up when he loses his mind. He's got to go destroy everything. That's why we can't have nice things. That crazy, that crazy Tuvok. You can never give Tuvok nice things. Oh, my lord. So the mind meld, hmm. Poor. Poor, poor, poor, poor, Tuvok. He's trying to help suitor. But in the long run, he ends up feeling the effects of the mind meld,

the reverse mind meld, basically, all right? And that's the... I never understood before... Yeah, I never understood before as clearly as this episode that the mind-mills are, you know, my mind to your mind, your mind to my mind, we're becoming one. We are one mind.

I never realized that in that we are one, that when you come out of the mind meld, you might be left with a little more of the other guys than your own. You know, I never quite, I never quite saw that as clearly as this episode. I also, I also noticed when the doctor was doing the DNA investigation

that the graphics for the DNA, like if you think about the mid-90s, 95 or whatever, 96 this year, DNA was still not used in a court of law. It was still experimental. We knew very little about it. it, the research in DNA was not nearly as extensive as it is now, 25 years ago. And so I saw the graphic and the dialogue about DNA, and I'm like, oh, my God, that sounds

so primitive because we know so much more about DNA now. But here was the doctor talking about DNA and looking at this, in this, like, microscopy thing. And it just looked goofy compared to what the science we look at now, you know? I just thought that was interesting. that is interesting that that is what cues you to oh my gosh that that's what dates the show you know you're like oh it's it typically what dates a film or tv project is is the type of cell phone that people are using in that film or tv project but in star trick it's it's the science behind using DNA right which is definitely yeah much more commonplace now yeah felt very dated the doctor points to the DNA it's definitely suitor

Souter admits everything to Tuvok. He just comes clean. And I thought that scene was really creepy to me. It was big time. Cold and calculated and very scary. Yeah. But then it also brings light to the fact that, you know, some people are just wired that way.

You know what I'm saying? Where they don't feel, because the fact that he's a betazoid and a betazoid, that entire species, that entire Star Trek alien species is about being an empath, being able to feel what other people are feeling. And you have that line in there, which to me with the creepiest line from Souter, was that, hey, I'm a Betazoid. We're supposed to feel other people's feelings.

I can't even feel my own feelings is what he said. And I was like, oh, that's so creepy. That's creepy. But they people to show you, there's always an anomaly, right? There's always, you know, if you have a whole bunch of cows that are brown, there's going to be one white cow, right? If you have a whole bunch of Betazoid, there's going to be one that doesn't feel Jack, can't feel anything. And that's Suter, unfortunately. Yeah.

I thought it was interesting when they go into the doctor and Tuvok is trying to understand this. He says something like a crime must have a logical purpose. It must have a motive. And the doctor is like, oh, you think everything should make sense and, you know, add up. And so he goes out to Kess and says, okay, Kess, you know, look at his file. Are there any, you know, mental illnesses or anything? And Kess says something like, no, nothing here. And he's not bipolar.

And so the doctor says something like, well, then he's not insane per se. And part of me was like, wait a minute. Bipolar is not insane. Depressive is not insane. Like, we can't just boil this down to a quick comment about, I don't know, I found that in terms of the mental illness health field, like that was a bit of an irresponsible moment. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. like well yeah similar to the DNA we have progressed beyond that point with mental illness now

right people are now acknowledging that it is an illness so yes it can be depression can be a serious illness but certainly not insanity like using the word insane when the doctor goes well he's he's not insane per se i don't know something about that i found to be slightly confusing and hard to grasp you know would you mentioned bipolar and insanity in the same sentence And I'm like, wait a minute, that's not how it works. The therapy was the neurosynaptic therapy that the doctor decides to use to help to walk out. It's like a shock therapy, right?

Yes, well, basically, kind of. I mean, I disagreed with it. I mean, from what I understood from watching the episode, the doctor was basically taking away all of his Vulcan filters, yeah, so that he feels everything. And that's how they're going to cure him. I'm not sure if that's right. Yeah, you're right. Shock therapy, when it was in vogue, at what, the turn of the century,

when people thought, hey, this is great. But really, it's like taking a sledgehammer to kill a gnat or an aunt. You know, it's like, why are you going that far to institute change in somebody by using shock therapy? And that's, I guess, kind of what he was going through. But thank God we got to, that therapy happened because we got some choice scenes from two. Oh, Tim was awesome. He was so good. Calling the captain, you know,

he discussed me. He discussed me. And then threatening, this is the only time I can think of, anyone threatening the doctor's life. You know, with a few choice keystrokes, I can make it so that you,

you're, I can completely terminate your program. Where you don't even exist any longer. Yeah. Wow. Oh, my God. Yeah, he said something like, you're not invulnerable hologram.

Oh, yeah. It was great. You're not in vulnerable hologram. Let's do that at conventions if we're with Bob Picardo. Let's just call him hologram or just say that line to him. You're not in vulnerable hologram. That's right. See how he reacts to that one.

I thought it was interesting, Souter said a little earlier than this when Tuvok was talking to him after the mind meld and Tuvok was trying to figure it all out. Yeah. Souter said something like, you know, violence is attractive in its own way, Tudov. Yeah. And he wanted to mindmelt with Tuvok again. And he said, you know, your mind melt is a form of violence in a way. Yeah, yeah.

Your thoughts dissolving into mind. Yeah. That was really penetrating into mind. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Because in a way, even though the intention was noble, I guess, and, and Tuvok thought he was doing the right thing, it is a form of violence to take over someone's thoughts. Yeah. Take over, you know, someone.

one's beliefs or thoughts or feelings and I think that's an interesting lesson as part of our theme and part of our you know of where is that line you know with violence with aggression with yeah there's a very fine line there yeah it was it was yeah an interesting moment I just didn't want to miss yeah that you discussed me all of you humans do when Tim Russ at one point goes, release the force field. And he said it with this, he said it with like, I don't know, it just

sounded classic, like the line reading, his energy, his intention of release the force field. So good. Yeah. So good. Do Vulcan sweat by the way? He was sweaty a lot and I'm like, he's very sweaty.

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, do other aliens sweat? Like, I would that that might be a choice to make is that oh not every bipedal humanoid alien has to sweat like humans they may know that's true that's true yeah i don't know whose decision that was to make them all you know damp throughout that episode yeah he was sweating a lot demons um jane way at the end says tuvok no more mind melds without permission yes which Typically at the end of every episode, it's, it's always Janeway pulling Torres aside and, you know, breaking off a piece of wisdom and, and remember this.

And then whoever it is, there's always something with Janeway typically, right? And on this one, yes, Janeway's there, but instead of, instead of this deep sort of, you know, and this is what you should learn from this young man, it came off very, very fortune cookie-ish, you know, kind of like, it's just like, I'm just going to just say, you know, no more mind melts without permission. And to me, it trivialized it at the very end for her just to quickly say, no more mind mouths, you know, I'm like, okay, we need more Calgon. I mean, it just really kind of bugged me that it didn't have a little more gravity at the end. I thought, was that the end scene? And then it ended.

Yeah. I feel like the deeper ideas came in the conversations with Souter and Tuvok. That's where the depth came out, because there was a line where Souter's said something like, if you can't control the violence, then the violence will control you. And to me, that was the theme of this episode. OK. Just to kind of segue into theme, to me, that sort

of captured the big idea, the lesson that we can all learn was like, we all have the potential for violence for the darker side. Yes. And I guess that's the way I was connecting the Sandrine's gambling and, you know. even Tuvok's experience, obviously. And what Neelix talked about, that festival,

what was that festival called? I'm going to look it up again, so I get it right. The Vulcan Ramari Festival, which is like Marty Rao, like where they run around and chase each other naked. Like, everyone has this dark side. So if you can't control, I guess, is the big word there. If you can't find your own way, there's a Vulcan way of doing it, there's a human way there's everybody can find their own path everyone has their own path but if you

don't find that path to controlling the darker side of of your experience then the dark side will control you i thought to me that was the theme anyway yeah yeah when you talked about earlier that you need an outlet you need an outlet to sort of help you uh normalize your own your own feelings or your behavior right something to kind of to work out all this aggression. And yeah, that is a good theme. My other theme behind the B storyline would be the house always wins. You taking your 10% you were the house in that whole gambling.

That's right. It's true. It's true. For all those people out there that are just turning 21 and entering into U.S. casinos and trying to gamble, just remember, it is hit and run. The minute you are up, you need to leave. leave. I mean, you cannot sit there all day because you will lose every cent on you because the house will always win. But in the short term, you can't stay ahead. Yeah. That's my theme. Hit and run. Yeah. It and run. That's good. All right. Well, great. Well, that was, that was awesome. That was a fun episode. I thought Tim did a great job. He did. He did. A scale of 1 to 10. What are you going to put that on? Okay. I agree. I'll give the same too. Yeah, Tim did a fab. And really, this is almost like a mirror universe episode for Tim. Like he finally got to, you know, act with some emotion. And typically what we see of Tuvok is the most emotion we get is the raised eyebrow. And that's it. You know, and this one, he went to town, you know, released the force field. And I have some funny back storylines that we're going to ask Tim when we have him.

Yeah, we're going to, for our patrons, we're going to have our bonus field. features, our usual games we play, but we'll have Tim Russ checking in with us on this episode to talk and answer a few questions. I'm very curious to get his memories there. Oh, me too. Most definitely. All right. So without further ado, let's move.

We're going to go ahead. Thank you, everyone for tuning in this week, all of our listeners out there. We appreciate that. Next week is Dreadnought, right? Dreadnought, yep. So we'll see you guys next week. See you then. All right.

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