The Delta Flyers - One

Episode Date: February 14, 2022

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting... at the very beginning. This week’s episode is One. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.One:Seven of Nine must operate the ship alone when a radioactive nebula forces all other crew members into stasis chambers in order to survive.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, Kate Mulgrew, & Brannon BragaAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co-Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Kelton Rochelle, Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Chris Knapp, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Elaine Ferguson, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, Megan Hurwitt, James Zugg, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, William McEvoy, Sarah Thompson,  Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Ashley Stokey, Amber Eason, Mary Burch, Nicholaus Russell, Dominique Weidle, Lisa Robinson, Joseph Michael Kuhlmann, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Barbara S., Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Marcus Vanderzonbrouwer, Nathan Walker, Shambhavi Kadam, John Mann, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Megan Chowning, Melissa Lau, Tae Phoenix, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Bronwen Duffield, Elly Post, Brandon May, Jeremy Mcgraw, & Jason BonnettAnd our Producers:Jim Guckin, James Amey, Eleanor Lamb, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Ann Marie Segal, Charity Ponton, Chloe E, Kathleen Baxter, Craig Sweaton, Marie Burgoyne, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Matthew Cutler, Maxine Soloway, Joshua L Phillips, Barbara Beck, Mary O'Neal, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Scott Lakes, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Jenna Appleton, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Andrei Dunca, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amy Tudor, Jamason Isenburg, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Kevin Selman, Maria Rosell, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Justin Weir, Normandy Madden, Mike Chow, Kevin Hooker, Michael "Klink" Klinckhardt, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Megan Moore, Melissa A. Nathan, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, David J Manske, Roxane Ray, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Cindy Holland, Robert Picard, & Craig M. NakashianThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at thedeltaflyers@gmail.com.”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone. Welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager. Your two hosts along this journey are myself, Garrett Wong, and my co-host, Mr. Robert Duncan McNeil. And remember, you can get the full version of this podcast by signing up to become a patron at patreon.com forward slash the day. Delta Flyers. Robbie. Hey, buddy. You remembered to wait and pause. I did. I didn't cut you off. You didn't cut me off.
Starting point is 00:00:39 In any of your intro. Oh, I like your shirt there. Yes, ma. Yes, ma. Yes. Yeah, it's pretty nifty.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Yeah. Pretty graphic and cool. You got your full merch today. You got Delta Flyers hat. I am. Very much. The yes ma'am shirt. I've got the crew hat from.
Starting point is 00:01:00 season seven yeah that's what i'm rocking you know we've gone through so many iterations of this hat i mean it's still the same design it's still a trucker cap but we we had one one uh vendor in the very beginning and then we switched to another one we had a foam front one and now we're back to cloth again and where so it's you know it's a constantly evolving process where we go through and try different vendors and see what you know works the best and so that's a great hat though it's a very popular it's a really great hat yeah it's uh stylish you know it's and and for people that that know about star trek when you see it you'll get it but if you don't know about star trek it just looks like a cool like a cool hat exactly that you could wear anywhere and so the next
Starting point is 00:01:49 reiteration of this next version of this hat i'm trying to get it on richardson brand hat that is the same company that made the Voyager Brewing Company hat that you have. Oh, those are nice hats too. Very sturdy. But because of the pandemic, because of what we're dealing with right now, vendors are, they are pulling their hair out, trying to meet demand. Richardson has been out of a black trucker cap for the last nine months. It's just not even there.
Starting point is 00:02:22 You can't even get it. So hopefully when vendors get back up to speed, and that means manufacturers as well, right? Not just the people that provide the cast, but the ones that make them and then give them to the vendors to sell to wholesale. When that gets back up to speed, who knows when that will be? We'll try another cap. We'll try the Richardson's. The world is definitely changing with this pandemic. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Unbelievable how everything has adapted. adapted and everything is, we've had to, we've all had to change. Right. Our habits and things like that. Yeah. Unprecedented, right? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I don't think anybody really is still alive from the Spanish, if anyone's alive from the Spanish flu time, they are very old right now. They're like 122 or something. And so if they were alive, they were infants at that time. So really, no one alive now has, really experienced anything like anything like this no and that you know if anything if we were to review the pandemic as a whole as an episode like how we review episodes the lesson learned or the theme of the pandemic is learn to adapt yeah right and they always say that about businesses if you don't adapt
Starting point is 00:03:46 if you don't you know change with the times you'll get lost or you'll be left behind and your business will fail. And now this is a lesson, not just for businesses, but for everyone worldwide, for life, period. You've got to learn how to adapt and change. All right. What are we watching this week? We're watching one. One. One. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, okay. So this is a, this is a, this is the shortest title, I think, of all. Yes. Right. I don't be. Are there any other three letter single word voyager episodic titles i'm going to say no i don't know three letters maybe but i'm trying to think of a two letter well there's okay then that would be we but i don't think there's a so-called we or or what else would you see say or a number just a number yeah i don't think so
Starting point is 00:04:43 so this is the shortest one shortest title that i can think of all right let's go watch it let's go watch it. All right, Patreon patrons, stay tuned for your bonus material. Okay, dokey, we are back from watching one. Yeah, I watched one. Did you watch one? I just went and watched one. That's cool that you watched one. You didn't watch two. You just watched one. No, you know what's funny is? You know how we were talking about this may be the shortest name of Star Trek episode? this actually did become the shortest name for a while until QQ2. Oh.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Became a few years, a couple years later became the shortest. The shortest. Episode name. Then there was an episode called E squared or something like that. That was like one letter with the square symbol. So for a while, this was the shortest title of a Star Trek episode ever. Right. that's one thing we know that is one thing that we know all right let's start this up with our typical
Starting point is 00:05:54 poetry synopsis i will begin with my haiku here we go okay my haiku for one nebula too big stasis chambers are needed seven gets us through oh wow that was nice thank you that was really good you captured a lot in those i did and that short little time syllables so difficult okay uh here we go my limerick for the episode one yes goes a little something like this let's hear it voyager enters a nebula no fly zone where the new radiation can burn to the bone dock and seven are a team then seven has a real scary dream because no one likes being alone. Ooh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I like it. Thank you. Nice. Thank you. Good job. Cool. All right. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah. The works are always fun because it's almost impossible to capture the whole plot. There's no way. So you pick a couple of angles. Same with the same with the, um, haiku. You got to go with the highlights. That's about it. You got to go the highlights.
Starting point is 00:07:15 you've got to pick one angle around it. Yeah. Agreed. Nice. Agreed. Well, let me just, I would just want to, before we get into this recap, I want to bring up something on Twitter. And just so the fans know Robbie and I, Robbie's on his winter break.
Starting point is 00:07:31 So we're doing a little, you know, we're doing a little banking of episodes. So this tweet, by the time you guys listen to this, this tweet will be a bit of an older tweet. So if you're going to search my Twitter, it happened on January the 4th. So I was answering a fan who says, Garrett, if they were to reboot Voyager, who would you like to see playing Harry Kim? And then I tweeted back, I said, the role of Harry Kim would naturally require an actor in their early 20s. But other than one of the members of the K-pop band, BTS, the only name that came to mind was at Kenjong. I wrote Kenjiang.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And I said, it could be, I said it could be a spinoff series called Star Trek, the 40-year-old Ensign, starring Ken Jong. And I've never met Ken Jong, which is rare because typically one Asian actor knows every other Asian actor in the biz, right? So, but Ken Jong kind of fell to the cracks in terms of my meeting him. And he immediately, immediately replied to my response. and I started laughing so hard because he he says he's a huge, huge fan. I didn't even know. I had no clue. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I never would have guessed that. No. There's so many closet. There's a lot of closet trick fans out there. They don't really talk about how much they love Star Trek. But then when he comes down to it, when you find out, it's just like, oh, my God, they're really, really into it. So in essence, he.
Starting point is 00:09:08 He said he found a GIF with Harry Kim, and it says, you're a strong person at the bottom. It just shows Harry kind of saying something. And he says, OMG, I'm extremely flattered and honored that you would even mention me. I'm a huge fan, Garrett. Thank you for paving the way, brother. Okay. So then I was like, oh, my God, that's really incredible that he said that. So then I kind of retweeted him and I said back to him.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I said, well, of course, because he thanked me. I said, it's kind of surreal that we haven't actually met at some random event yet. The only other Asian American actor that thanked me for paving the way, quote unquote, was at Daniel Day Kim, at an Asian award show. So proud of you both for all of your successes over the years, way to represent. And now this got a lot of traction. All of a sudden, Brian Fuller sees this. And Brian Fuller's like, I need to see Ken Jong in a Starfleet uniform. And I said, you need this.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I said, we all need this. So I may have inadvertently possibly helped Ken's third track career. Yeah, being cast in a Star Trek episode. So I, yeah, it's just, it's, it really made my day to see. very cool yeah that he was yeah and so when i responded of course and it's kind of surreal all this stuff he was ken jang then tweeted back with like a heart um uh two hearts and a and a hand two hand what does the hand gestures mean when they're up like this does that mean what does that like yes like hey or something like yeah or yeah and then if you can see he does a he has a jiff
Starting point is 00:10:56 of himself they're bowing and it says it says we're not working we're not working Like, you know, he's, he's not worthy of me. And then when he tweeted that, I found like a gif of, can you see who that is? It's, uh, oh, my gosh. It's, okay. It's basically, um, from Lord of the Rings. It's Eragorn's character at the very end. When at the hobbits save everything, the hobbits kneel down to him. And then Eragorn looks at them at the hobbits and says, you bow to no one. Because they're the ones that saved the day, right? So really fun, though, having that Twitter, Twitter exchange with Ken Jong, you know, who is... That's very cool. Yeah, who arguably is probably at the forefront of at least Asians in Hollywood. I mean, goodness gracious, he's doing, he's doing all kinds of things right now. He's a busy man, a very talented man. Busy, busy, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Very cool. Yeah. All right. That's a quick little segue there.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Let's get into the episode. Ken was not in the episode one. He was not in the episode one. No. No, actually, I think Ken played the nebula. He was just flying through him as actually. All right. So one is written by Jerry Taylor, which is really interesting because I, you know, as Michael Pillar left and then Jerry Taylor left our show, it seemed like it was sort of this slow.
Starting point is 00:12:21 It was talked about they were going to leave, but then they were still around a little, but then they were kind of half in and half out. So I feel like this may be one of Jerry's last scripts, actually. This is the end of season four. I can't, I just don't believe that she stayed on beyond season four. But I don't remember. You know, I have, as it's well documented, I have a really bad memory. So I could be wrong. But this, this feels like maybe her last script.
Starting point is 00:12:51 So I just thought that was interesting. I made me wrong, but we'll see. Well, I hope you're wrong. enjoyed Jerry Taylor scripts I know she was such a she was like the heart of our show was so I really was more I hope there's more directed by Ken Biller this is his first time directing no this is second time what it's his second time this season he directed was it revolt revulsion or repulsion or directed something earlier in season four oh yeah he yeah he came out and started directing quite a bit this year, which, you know, Ken Biller had a meteoric rise on our show.
Starting point is 00:13:32 He started as an entry-level story editor, season one. He was as low as you could get in terms of being a writer and a, you know, starting writer. And he had come from, I think he had been an executive, like a studio or network exec. He'd worked in kind of the studio system a bit. So this was maybe even his first writing job ever, staff job ever. I don't know. But I feel like he and I talked about that early on. And he was just starting out.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And then to be directing in season four. And ultimately, we know he was running the show by the last season. He was the show runner. He is the Bob Ricardo of writers. Because if you think about it, Bob Picardo's character was supposed to be the least utilized on Voyager. He was number nine on the call sheet, which means least utilized of all series regulars.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And he part laid that into the breakout character of the show. It was like Ken Biller was the least utilized writer, staff writer in the lowest tier. In the beginning and became the most powerful writer. He was the show writer by the end and then created, you know, went off to run and create his own shows after this after Voyager. But anyway, Ken Biller directing his second episode. Our guest stars, we had Wade Williams, Wade Williams playing Trajus, Trojus, Lotharic. We didn't hear the name mentioned very much,
Starting point is 00:15:01 but Trajus, I think, was the name. The other guest star is Ron Ostro, who played the board Drone. So that's our guest stars that I could find. Was Ron, did Ron get a credit at the beginning of the app? Because I just saw Wade Williams' name. I didn't even see him on the game. I think he got a credit at the end. You know, also star and co-starring or something like that.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah. All right. Okay. Thanks for filling us in. That's our cast. So we open in the mess hall and seven walks into a close up with the star field in the background, which I thought was very interesting because it's an interesting opening shot because it's a little unconventional for us. She walks into this close up. And then as she moves back, the camera moves faster back to reveal Harry and Boulana in the mess hall.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah. And she approaches them. And I really like the scene a lot. Yeah. This first scene is funny. She asks Ensign Kim. She has a few questions for them. So she says to Harry, what was your place of origin?
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah. Very abruptly, but like an interrogation. And he sort of answers, he was born in South Carolina, which I never knew. I never knew Harry was born in South Carolina. They gave me that choice. And you pick South Carolina? Because I was dating Daniel Corley at the time. Oh, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Miss South Carolina herself, Miss South Carolina in the USA pageant back in the day. And then she went on to do body shaping on ESPN. So she had a little bit of her own fame. But her father was a huge Star Trek fan, massive. So in honor of her dad, I was like, you know what? Let me make her dad happy. You know, I'm going to choose South Carolina. Otherwise, I would have, I would have chosen.
Starting point is 00:16:46 in Tennessee because that, you know, I was, I went from fifth grade to senior year in high school in Memphis. So I was like home. Yeah. So I selected South Carolina to kind of get brownie points with my girlfriend at the time's father. Well, clearly it didn't work out. It wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. It's immortalized in Star Trek, but it wasn't enough. No. Okay. Then she turns to Lieutenant Torres and says, explain why you became a member of the marquee. So Bologna's like, oh, Okay, it was through Chacote. And again, she cuts off Boulana before you could finish and then before Bologna can finish. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And then she says, to Harry, list the sports you play. Yes. And you list some sports, which I thought was interesting, by the way. Yeah, my selection. Tennis. Volleyball. Right. Tennis.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Tennis, Paris, squares, which I would rather call Paris's squares. It sounds more like your game, right? Thanks, buddy. But we do find, you're welcome, but we do find that volleyball is his favorite. it. Now, I don't know. What? Yeah, I don't know. Where did that come from? Well, I will say this. I think maybe Ken or maybe, well, Ken didn't write this. It was Jerry. Maybe Jerry asked me because I played tennis in high school, junior high in high school. And volleyball is one of my favorite sports to watch. I actually love volleyball. So that shocked me when I saw, when I was watching. They must have asked you these things. I thought they had to have asked me this. Otherwise, how would they, how would this come up? It's too. much of a coincidence, you know what I'm saying? Like, why would you say tennis and then Precious, well, Precious Square is futuristic Star Trek game? And then volleyball is his favorite, a little odd, yeah, unless it was pre-ordained that way
Starting point is 00:18:29 by, you know, quick phone call. Hey, what sports do you like? We're going to throw this into the episode. So that's what I think happened. And then her next couple of questions are, justify the foods you find enjoyable. I love her language. And then she says to Boulana, describe the nature of your sexual relationship with. Lieutenant Paris. My favorite question. Okay, that's it.
Starting point is 00:18:49 My favorite question right there. I'm done. Did you laugh at that? Yes, you all-old on that one, didn't you? I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:18:58 That's when the doctor comes in and freezes the program and we realize we're in a simulation. Yeah, it's a holiday simulation. Yeah. And he wanted her to get comfortable with him people, not interrogate them. So, and she's like, I don't see the,
Starting point is 00:19:12 you know, this is a waste of time. She says, you know what? I'm overdue for my medical maintenance. checkup. And I was like, well, that's weird. You haven't ever requested a.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Yeah, you're never, you're never someone who enjoys those treatments. And she goes, well, I enjoy those treatments better than this treatment. And she leaves. Great opening scene, though. Very funny. Great opening scene. Yeah, I liked it. We go to a cool flyby of the ship and we notice this nebula is very interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:45 It's a, you know, a beautiful kind of purple color. By the way, did you not notice? I changed my background from our intro. My intro changed to my now nebula-esque background. Yeah. So, you know, to get into the spirit. Get into the nebula spirit. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. Continue. Yeah. So we find out this nebula is enormous. It goes beyond the reach of our sensors. Going around the nebula would take, you know, way too long. And so Janeway says, let's go through it. It's crazy to think that it's so vast that it extends beyond the reach of our sensors.
Starting point is 00:20:26 It's like, what? I thought our sensors were so modern, so futuristic and so amazing that they would pick everything up, right? But no, they can't even pick up. We can't see where the sides are. So we're just going to see how deep it is. So let's just go through it. Mutara. Mutara class.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Is that what they said? Matara, something like that. That's right. So we start to go through it. And Harry's the first one to sort of have a little discomfort. I don't know what's up. All of a sudden, he's like, ah, you make some noises up there. Harry's so sensitive.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah. And then, yes, exactly. He's the most sensitive one on the bridge, clearly. And then Janeway says, are you okay? And he goes, oh, no, it's just starting to get a headache. It's a little headache. And then suddenly within seconds, Paris starts to wins. And then Janeway and Chakotay, even Tuvok, the Vulcan, the strong man.
Starting point is 00:21:15 he's feeling some pain yeah and we do notice that that harry's the first one to get some burns like his skin is starting to none of you guys had to have burn treatment on that first scene it was just me yeah junk on my hands weird stuff on my hands yeah so that's what that's how we end the opening you know that opening sequence with everybody wincing in pain yeah and i got to say it was there was a lot of shatner acting going yeah there was a lot of That's in my video reaction in the bonus materials for the Patreon patron. That was my first, not the very first. It was the second video.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I actually reacted to something else before that. So, yeah, it was Shatner-esque by all of us. Everybody was doing their best Shatner. It was amazing. It was amazing. It was a tribute to Bill. I think Bill would be proud. If he saw that, he'd be like, I love that is what he would say.
Starting point is 00:22:13 so we go to our opening credits then we come back and we're still in the bridge and janeway's like turn around lieutenant paris turn around said of course you know reverse right thrusters reverse or whatever she says you collapse he's like oh i'm shatner acting so hard i pass out you shattner it and you fall to the ground yeah we cut to sick bay the doctor is overwhelmed he's like what is going on he sends seven to the bridge with a dermal regenerator he's got burn patients all out in Sick Bay. Tuvok is struggling. He stumbles down to the con, lays in a course to turn around.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And as soon as the ship turns around, within moments, we turn around and get out of that nebula. Everybody's feeling about it. Everyone's okay. But here's the question. Why did Tuvok need to leave his station to come down to your station to turn around the ship? I mean, shouldn't every station have access to helm control?
Starting point is 00:23:12 I mean, I would think so. It was so weird. I mean, he had to leave tactical. But, of course, it was really more to show how he was being affected by it, right? He was struggling. And also just without words to make it clear that he was doing something navigational, as opposed to his normal thing. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But you're right. I think that these computers should be able to. They should be advanced enough that you. Yes. I should be able to change the coordinates of our direction from my console as well as Tuvok, a tactical, as well as Jane Janeway, Janeway should be able to tap a couple commands over at her little clamshell display thing that pops up, right? That should have already, that should be a given. But yes, in order to show people without having to say it. Don't we all have Wi-Fi on the bridge? We should have. I think we
Starting point is 00:23:57 all connected to the inner web. We're all connected. Pull up whatever window, go to a website and yeah. On comes up. Anyway, when seven jumps, when seven comes onto the bridge, she sees the one dead crewman. And the first time that, well, the first time we see him, I said, oh, it's Pablo. And then it cuts away and then from the shot of the dead crewman to somebody else on the bridge. And then it cuts back to another close up of the dead crewman. And then I'm looking at the hair. I'm like, wait a minute, that's not Pablo's hair. I go, that's Louis. That's Louis. It looked like Louis. But then I started thinking, they probably would have picked someone brand new because you're not going to kill off one of our regular
Starting point is 00:24:39 background actors because we need them and we can't just kill all those guys off. We have to have them for the extent of the show. So I think it was just some random person. We are now in Astrometrics. Yes. And we find out that this nebula extends for at least 110
Starting point is 00:24:55 light years. A month to get through and more than a year to get around. That is a big, big nebula. Yeah. You know, so this is the info we get Janeway and Seven and Janeway. Seven and Janeway, yeah. Seven and Janeway is, she is not going to be deterred by this. Sevens like the crew will not survive for more than, you know, moments here. The way that they reacted to this, there's no way they're going to survive going through this thing. Janeway's like, we've got to figure this out. Yeah. This nebula is not going to stop me. And she marches out of astrometrics to go find an answer with that music in the background. You can always tell when, Jamway's not going to be deterred because there's this really crescendo of background
Starting point is 00:25:41 orchestral music going on at the same time. One thing I noticed in this scene is I noticed this pattern and then it comes up throughout where the shots would start on something tight and sort of pull back into a close up. I saw it a lot in this episode, like more than normal. Yes. Sort of falling into a pattern. So it was really nice when, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:07 you know, wide shots or there was more variety. And I started thinking, like, I wonder why. I think there were a lot more scenes and setups in this episode than our average show because it was just seven of nine by herself. So she had to be moving around all the time. She had to go to a new room and a new hallway and a new this. So there was a lot of like start on something tight and pull back. And I noticed that in astrometrics as well.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I wonder if this was Ken Biller's doing or was it? Marv. Marvin. Maybe. I mean, usually the director has some plans of how they're going to transition and open each scene. Maybe Ken had planned on a lot of these, you know, could have been a choice. But it was interesting. It was something I noticed. And it sounds like you noticed it as well.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I sure did. I did make it out about one particular scene later that we'll get to. So, yeah. So whether it was Marvin's doing or Ken's doing, it was definitely a thematic choice to do this pull out in multiple scenes. Okay. Let's move on. We go to sick bay next. So the doctor's explaining that there's massive amounts of subnucleonic radiation,
Starting point is 00:27:15 that they're causing all of the skin, you know, inflammation or burns or whatever. And he says there's nothing that he can do. He can't prevent, you know, the effects from happening. The only thing he can suggest is a stasis chamber. Yes. And Jane was like, who's going to fly the ship? I love that he volunteers. He's like, well, I have shown rudimentary piloting skills.
Starting point is 00:27:44 You know, he's so the doctor, I was like, wait a minute. The doctor is going to pilot the ship. I was like, wow, that surprised me that he was literally going to pilot it. But I guess, you know, to his credit, he has, you know, access to all of the information on our ship's computer. So he is a smart choice. And he volunteers to pilot the ship. And she says, you're going to need to back up in case you go offline. You need someone or something to back you up in case there's a problem, which there is later on.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So thank goodness. And he says the only one that there's only one person that's unaffected. And off of that question, we cut to a scene with Janeway and Stevin. And again, it's another close up. it starts in this close-up. So this thematic sort of starting on seven in a close-up. Can I stop you for a second here? Can we just rewind just a little bit and go back to the sick bay
Starting point is 00:28:43 before we jump into the Colorado Bay? Yeah, go. From that scene alone, I realize that Star Trek Voyager has the answer for the current pandemic that we're in. Stasis chambers. Yes. If we put everyone in the world into a stasis chamber, for one month, we would stop COVID. in its tracks, dead in its tracks.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Wow. Am I right? You're right. Let's do it. Let's do stasis chambers. I'm just telling you, Star Trek Voyager is the most important show on television. Everyone should watch this show. I mean, basically a stasis chamber is like life support, right? So we'd have to put everybody on the planet.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Yes. in the planet on life support yes for a month except for pop ricardo he can still run everything oh he'd be fine yeah he'd be fine him and jerry ryan will help make sure maintain all what is the world population how many billion is they have to maintain a lot of billions yes they'll have to maintain all of these things going for a month while we all go that's fine wow it can be done if we had those those life support stasis chambers by the way they look pretty comfy i mean i mean i I remember being in there. It was not that bad.
Starting point is 00:30:05 It wasn't. It was just those days that we were in there. You and I were in there the most. We were. We were, but I just, it was so, one of the easiest days acting in a vlog is we didn't have to say anything. We just got to lie down. Go lie down.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Quite pleasant. All right. Jump to the cargo bay. We are with Janeway and seven. Janeway is talking to seven. we jumped to the cargo bay and again we started a close-up of seven so again this pattern i kept noticing early on of starting these scenes with something tight or close-up or something but janeway is proposing to seven that she stay uh with the the doctor and and janeway does bring up right
Starting point is 00:30:50 away she's worried that she's going to feel too lonely without the crew um that it was hard for her to adapt from the collective to this to our crew of nearly 200 people right um and now she's only going to have to she's going to have to adapt from the whole crew to just one person around and she says i will adapt and she also talks about how it's going to work and janeway says the doctor is going to be in command yeah you will listen to you will obey all his orders and she's like a hologram she says it was such like really you're going to make me obey a hologram and it's like her little her insolent A little attitude.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Yes, it's still there. She does attitude very well. She does. But she agrees. She agrees. And so now we know what's happening. So we go to the briefing room and we're in the briefing room. Janeway's briefing the crew.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Chikote, she's, Janeway's basically saying, look, this is what's going to happen, right? This is the only way we can deal with this. Everyone then leaves the meeting and Chocote stays behind after the meeting. And he expresses his reservations. And then the bottom line is, is he agrees with her after she says, instinct, I have an instinct. An instinct is the reason why Janeway is trusting seven, even though she has this
Starting point is 00:32:09 insolent attitude. And I just love how Chakota is like, eh, it's good enough for you. It's good enough for me. You got a hunch about this. I mean, we only have all the lives of the crew at stake. That's all. But, hey, I'm good. If you've got a hunch, if you've got a hunch, I'm bad with it.
Starting point is 00:32:26 By the way, at the very end. yes she says see you at 1700 hours or one of them says see it's 1700 hours her hand goes up on his shoulder oh and it kind of lingers there a little long kind of hats and erupts in i'm telling you they should have their own stasis chamber those two robbie we need to come up with like a jc song a theme song like a jc moment theme song jingle jangle that we can come up with yeah where we just kind of play it we just have it pre-recorded and we can just hit a button or we can edit it in when you hear that little jangle jingle j c moment well that was one that's one right there with the shoulders mm-hmm good catch there good catch there yeah all right go to deck 14
Starting point is 00:33:09 right just where the stasis deck is yes and paris is panicking i wrote tom is a worry wart is what i was my goodness you were having a pre-anxiety attack right there yeah you well it does track later on i was Why am I being so... Yeah, why is he like this? Why am I being so dramatic about this? Nobody else is... I love Harry's line. He says, shall we replicate you a teddy bear?
Starting point is 00:33:38 Thank you for that. Nighty night. Nighty night. I'm going to make a t-shirt with that on there. Should we replicate you a teddy bear? And then I kept thinking, man, they did not have enough money for this episode because there is only four stasis chambers. And then, of course, it pulls back to...
Starting point is 00:33:57 another pullback to reveal more stasis chambers in another side room and more on a up a higher level of deck 14 evidently, right? I will say there's a continuity failure here because, okay, so a couple things about these stasis chambers. You and I are but closest to the door. I don't know why I'm not somewhere near Balana. That's what I wrote too. Why are you not next to Balana?
Starting point is 00:34:24 and then I wrote, Tom should be in a duo stasis chamber with Belona, like couples together. Exactly. That would be sweet. Why? But you and I were closest to the door. That's why we were in all the other shots later on.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And then at the end of the scene, Janeway walks like three or four stasis chambers away from the door so she can get in hers. Because I'm sure that Ken and Marvin, Ken Biller and Marvin, those guys were like, let's put Janeway in one further away. So when we're doing all these other scenes, we don't have to call her in, call her in to lay down and be an extra down there in the background.
Starting point is 00:35:02 But for our two young guys, what the heck? Put them up front. Yeah, they're young. They have energy. They can come to work. The other thing about that pullback that you talked about. Yeah. So it was a Viz effects.
Starting point is 00:35:13 They did not have enough money to physically build. Correct. Yeah. More than maybe five or six basis chambers. Well, from what you see, the Tom and Janeway and then the other extra that, oh, you're You do see Tuvok. You do see Tuvok. It goes, it goes, Tom, Harry, random background female.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Then I saw, I think Janeways was the either Janeways, but then I saw two. I did see Tuvok's little face in one of them. So he's on that main level, right? So there's maybe five, five of those. Yeah. And then they pull back in a wide shot and you see off on one side and up above, off to the side that these. There's another room almost. It's like a room at the end of that.
Starting point is 00:35:53 cargo bay or that that stasis chamber bay and then uh and then there's a balcony with more off in the distance right later on the mezzanine level yeah the mezzanine level yeah but later on by the way when seven comes in and she looks in there and and paris is is asleep she heard his voice you don't see this the back side you don't see any of it you don't see any of them I'm like all you see that was five you caught it and I was like guys come on if you're to put it in the earlier shot you got to oh my you've got it now you got to pay for it again and they didn't do it tv production 101 what are we doing people that was my biggest like continuity complaint when she looks in there and there's only five in the room i was like you just
Starting point is 00:36:40 showed us about 150 right in that last scene and now we see five yeah no totally does not match doesn't work doesn't work you caught it yeah you caught it good for you all right that's the of the stasis chamber scene we go back to another flyby as a purple nebula now yeah and it's seven of nine's personal log is this her first personal log or has she yeah before yeah i don't think so i think this is the first time i've heard a personal log from seven to nine okay well let me jump through this then so then uh she's you know we we have the personal log so it begins with the exterior nebula space shot nebula nebula space shot and then it continues as seven is walking through the corridors and it ends at mess hall, which is empty, which is sad.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And then she replicates a nutritional supplement 14 beta 7. Can you imagine if this is how we actually all spoke in this way? Well, she gets a mug of coffee. I was like, nutritional supplement 14 beta 7. That's 13 syllables or coffee. So I know, but I'm just imagining you saying to Rebecca, hey, hon. What's, what's, uh, what's for dinner tonight? And she answers nutritional supplement 14 beta 5. Oh, she just, if everyone spoke like that. Yeah, we'd be crazy. And why, why do nutritional supplements sound just like evasive maneuvers in seven of nine, right? Yeah. This is a, they're almost identical. It's all the same to her. It's all the same. Evasive maneuver, 14 beta seven. Nutritional supplement 14 beta seven. It's, it's, uh, it's so borglike and it's so funny to me whenever she talks.
Starting point is 00:38:23 just humorous. Yeah, so she's having her coffee and she's got a routine going on. And, you know, we're at low power mode. The lights are all out. It's already a little creepy. She goes to engineering and it's completely empty. Yeah. She checks a console in there and beep, beep, beep.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And then she exits there. She's doing her rounds and she goes to the bridge. I didn't write creepy. I just said sad. It just looks so sad. You know, I wasn't creeped out. I was bummed for her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah, it was sad. She goes to the bridge It's empty She goes down to Kahn Adjust the heading by 3.7 degrees starboard And then she goes back out into the hall For part of her routine And she rounds a corner
Starting point is 00:39:04 And sees Paris On the floor And the door is like How many times How many times that thing hit you in the head And you didn't even know I don't remember And it's like
Starting point is 00:39:16 Where are your boils You should be covered in lesions I should be covered at this point You're not I'm caught in like the grocery store doors like they just keep passed out on the floor you know she calls the doctor
Starting point is 00:39:31 they should have showed more of that because you only see the one if they let it go for three or four times that that would be comedy comedy right that would be the sitcom version that's the orville version of voyager yeah exactly all right continue we go back in the stasis bay and the doctor shutting the window on Harris again. He says no ill effects. Nothing bad. He wasn't gone long enough. He just made it to the door. So, before he passed out. So let me let me just, let's recreate what happened. So you got
Starting point is 00:40:03 claustrophobic. You flipped out. You unlocked your stasis chamber. You get out. Then you start feeling the effects of the headache. Then you start doing the shatner. You're like, and then you pass out without any lesions or anything else. No lesions. I don't even make it out the door. But let's go back for a minute. All right. To the part where you said, I get up and open my stasis chamber. I'm in stasis. How the heck did I wake up? And by the way, I did this four times we learned later on.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Okay. I could somehow, I have a superpower to break stasis, unlike any other human. No, you did not, you did not break stasis. You did not wake up. You effectively sleepwalked is what you did. That's what I'm thinking, right? People do things while they're sleeping. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:51 that they don't recall. So while you slept, you were like, beep, beep, beep. Yeah, so somehow you press the right code to open up the four times. There's a lot of holes in the script, okay? Yeah. But still. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:05 All right. We believe it. And the doctor makes a joke and Seven doesn't laugh. No. And he says, even if you had the slightest sense of humor, you'd realize I was making a small joke. And then Seven goes very small. Very small.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yeah. I laughed. I did too. They're getting on each other's nerves. And starting to get on each other's nerves. By the way, the doctor says also, he goes, give me the life signs or vital signs. And she starts calling out vital signs.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And she says at one point, body temperature, 97.6. And all of a sudden, I was like, wait a minute, Fahrenheit, we speak metric on this show in every way. Why would she? I mean, I don't know the conversion because I, I, You know, I don't use metric, but I'm sure people. It should have been incelsious, then is what you're saying. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Robbie, you are, you are, I'm going to tell you, you are Sherlock Holmes on this episode. You've just, you've just found all these little discrepancies. It's very impressive. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. The doctor says, they start bickering and he's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:42:13 We need to go to the holiday. Yeah. And you need a brush up. You need a brush up course and how to deal with people in the holiday. I deal with people because you're getting on my name. nerves. Yeah. And she doesn't want to go. And he goes, this isn't a suggestion. And it's not a request. It's an order. An order from because captain doctor. He's captain, exactly. I know. But see, but here's a thing. He doesn't have a name. So you're going to call him Captain Doctor?
Starting point is 00:42:35 Captain Doctor. Which is a little confusing because you're the captain and you're the or the doctor. No, I'm Captain Doctor. How about just how about a hybrid name? Captain and Doctor get captor. He's Capter. Copter. Copter. Or Docton. He's Docton. Follow the orders of Docton right now. Okay. I like that. That's a good one. I like it. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:54 So we cut to the mess hall. Clearly, it's a holodeck simulation of a party in the mess hall. And Neelix is passing hors d'oeuvres. Janeway is in a very casual dress, which I never saw before. I don't think we see again. No. She's in a casual dress. Chikote, I see walking the background.
Starting point is 00:43:12 He's in a nice party suit. I thought everybody looked good. Yeah. Wait, were we in this scene? I don't think so. Okay. I don't think so. Seven's in there, Neelix.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I think the producers felt bad that we were, you know, used as background in the Stasis chamber so much. They're like, you know what? Let's give them a day off. Let's make Chikote the background today. Let's make Chikote the background guy today, exactly. And Janeway, basically. No, she's got a couple lines here.
Starting point is 00:43:36 She did. She did. Yeah. But seven standing alone, Neelix approaches and says, hey, you should join the party. And she's like, I have no desire for fun. Yeah, she's working on a pad. She's attempting to recalibrate the warp field to resist the nebulous. is radiation.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. And so she asks Neelix for his help on this. She shows in the pad and the work that she's done. And he's like, oh, well, that's interesting. I think maybe we could do this. And then she calls for Janeway to come over. Maybe Janeway can help. So she's trying to show interest in people.
Starting point is 00:44:07 So Janeway and Neelich start working it out. They're both kind of spitballing ideas. And the doctor steps up again. The doctor kind of rolls his eyes, though. You see that, right? Yeah. Freases the program again. By the way, he steps into a foreshot.
Starting point is 00:44:20 it's neelix janeway seven and the and the doctor steps around and says computer freeze yeah and janeway and nelix freeze and maybe some extras behind and then the doctor pulls seven over to the side so they're all alone correct and i thought oh they want to get them away from the actors who are pretending to freeze because if they stood there the whole time they would be moving would have to hold still and then she'd be in the coverage and yeah so it's funny that do you remember doing that when we would have these like freeze program moments where people would freeze. And sometimes you do it in a split screen
Starting point is 00:44:56 so that they didn't, you didn't have to hold it the whole time. They'd do it as a Vizifax, but sometimes you actually had to freeze. Yes. And I just had this moment of like, oh, they just called Anne freeze. Yeah. And now they're walking away so that they, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:11 are getting. Did you notice? Did you notice this Sherlock Paris Holmes? Yes. When he says freeze, her right arm and hand moves a little bit. It does. It does. If you go back and watch it, after the freeze happens, she freezes and then she readjusts a little bit. You can see a little bit. That's what I'm saying. That's why they got him out of it. Because
Starting point is 00:45:31 there's no reason for him to walk her away. No. Except to get the visual effects off of the actors. Exactly. And there's no background behind them in any of their coverage either. So clearly they were trying to avoid any of his effects or freezey actor things. It worked for the most part, except for moving your arm. That's it. Oh, we get a warning signal now. We get a warning signal that the anti-matter storage tanks are failing. And that's when the doctor and seven leave this holodeck simulation. They walk out into the corridor and they're now at a wall console and they're tapping away. I think they're at a wall concert. I mean, this is the problem with the, this is the, I wrote Hall question mark, because the problem with these kind of, this pattern of
Starting point is 00:46:12 starting tight and pulling back, which happens. I don't know where I am. Like, are we? So I think we were in the hallway because they just came out of a mess hall, but unclear. Anyway, they're at a console somewhere. Yeah. So they're at the wall console and they have to eject the anti-matter tanks. And the doctor says that they have to coordinate their efforts. So he orders seven to go to engineering while he runs off to the bridge. So now the next scene is sort of jumping back and forth between the bridge and seven in the corridors,
Starting point is 00:46:43 walking towards engineering. And you're getting all these, these just messages of. things happening and and that engineering is filled with plasma not floged but plasma flooded with it she'll never get in she'll never be able to get in according to the doctor and she says i'll survive long enough to eject the assembly right i've got to do this right and the doctor's panicking yeah high stakes yeah the hull is breaching like all the information the doctor's getting is that this is a disaster right she walks into engineering oh she comes around the corner and she the engineering and she the engineering doors open up and everything's fine. There's not, there's nothing wrong. And she realizes this is a
Starting point is 00:47:24 false alarm. This is something, something's going on. So now in the next scene, this is why I wrote, where are they? Question mark. That's what I'm saying. This is the one where we have no. Yeah, this is, I don't know where we are. Whether they're in the science lab area or not, I have no clue. It could be sick bay science lab. It could be anywhere. And they are now realizing that there are malfunctions going on in a number of our neural gel packs, the bioreal gel packs that that's sort of set Voyager, this intrepid class starship apart from any other starship at the time is that we have these bioreal gel packs and they are the ones that are malfunctioning so the mission is to replace these malfunctioning gel packs and to access these gel packs
Starting point is 00:48:11 they have to go through the Jeffries tube crawling through the whole. horribly uncomfortable Jeffrey's tube. And while they're in the tube and they get to their destination trying to replace this neural gel pack. While they're in the Jeffries tubes, I loved when the doctor starts complaining about how small the tubes are. He goes, why did, when they were designing this, why did they make them so small? He's complaining. You know, they should be big enough that we could stand up and walk. And she's like, you know, there's no use in complaining. There's nothing we can do about it. He goes, oh yeah, complaining is very comforting to me. I love that exchange.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yes. And I mean, he basically verbalized what every actor on Star Trek has always thought, why can't we just stand up in these dang things? Just make them really narrow, right? But just at least vertically high enough to stand up for a normal human being. Yeah. But no. No, we got to crawl through.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yeah, we got to crawl through. And they get to this juncture and there's a black gel pack. Did you notice that? Yeah, yeah. It was not good up. Yeah. Some look good. Most of them look good, but you could see the ones that were damaged.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Yeah. Yeah. So they replaced that one. And, you know, just to add insult to injury, now the doctor starts to fritz. And he's just, and, you know, this is the time when the doctor is saying, I need to get back to sick bay or else my program might be lost. And so they're running. If my program goes offline while I'm out of sick bay, then it may be irretrievable, he says. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:44 He could be. And he says, I love this. quote. He goes, I may be facing, I'm facing cybernetic oblivion. Is that what he said? Yeah. Cybernetic oblivion. I'm facing cybernetic oblivion. Okay. It's very dramatic. I was thinking, why didn't he just transfer his program instantaneously back to sick bay? Why does he have to physically run all the way back there? Because they wanted the audience to see how the doctor runs. That's it. Okay. I mean, he could have just said computer transfer my program back to sick bay and that we've seen this before and then
Starting point is 00:50:19 the mobile emitter would have fallen on the ground and then she could have picked it up and gone back slowly without running or a site to site transport right just transport yourself you don't have to just you know transfer your program just no but they wanted the running montage they got they got that montage all right all right we're in sick bay yes we are in sick bay the doctor is so happy to be there and we realize his mobile emitter has been damaged But now he's kind of stuck in sick bay. He can't really leave. And he tells Seven, hey, it's now all up to you to keep this ship running.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah. Which Seven is, I'm sure, quite apprehensive about, but she has to do what she has to do. She has to adapt. She can't complain. Another beautiful ship shots and beautiful ship shots in this. Yeah. And then we come in on another close up of seven starting a close up and pulling back. And this time we pull back and we realize she's on a glacier.
Starting point is 00:51:14 yeah some kind of like ice ice glaciery thing frozen tundra i have to say i didn't like this vis effect i didn't think it looked very good the angles were weird her feet were sort of looked like they were sort of in the snow but it just didn't look it looked uncanny valley you know that expression where just something is not it just didn't look real to me and it was confusing like i wish she had had some lines like where am i or anything she just sort of looked around and then i'm gonna play devil's advocate it's it's her dream and dreams are just weird period so i'm okay with the uncanny valley i'm okay that it didn't really make any sense that she had no lines because people's dreams make no sense at all yeah just how it is they're just bizarre they're weird they make no sense they'd look
Starting point is 00:52:05 weird but we didn't know it was a dream no initially until the big shot pulls back it's a long shot It goes on a while. And then we hear the computer say, oh, 600 hours, regeneration sequence completed. And so now we know, oh, she was just dreaming. And this is like her wake-up call. And we go. I wonder if this is foreshadowing. I wonder if this is foreshadowing to the episode timeless from season five where the ship crashes into the ice planet.
Starting point is 00:52:33 So I almost felt like, hmm, this looks a lot like ice planet. I don't know that they have the stories figured out that far in advance. Yeah, probably not. But they may have remembered that image and said, hey, what if we tie back to something like that? Right. Okay. So it's inadvertent and coincidental foreshadowing. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Is what it is. Yeah. Okay. But she wakes up and she's in her regeneration pod. There's a nice Dutch angle close up that we start the scene on. I like that. We don't normally do Dutch angles. I know that Rick Berman was not a big fan of Dutch angles.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I'm shocked that Ken was able to get that through. But he did it. Yeah, he did a nice Dutch angle. And then as she steps out of the chamber and the close-up, we go to a high wide shot and we see that whole cargo bay real wide as she starts transcribing out loud, another personal log, yeah. But it was a beautiful wide shot. It was so, it was such a relief and a nice change to get that high wide shot and just
Starting point is 00:53:30 let it play in the environment a little bit. It looked really cool. Yeah. We also learned from her personal log that it's the 29th day. traveling through the nebula, the Mutara Nebula, and that she, seven, has been feeling the effects of the prolonged isolation. And we also learn that the ship systems are requiring constant maintenance all the time. So something is always failing and she has to be on top of it.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Like for instance, this morning she must purge the auxiliary plasma vents. So that's her job for the morning. We then jump to the bridge where 7 is still going through her day, just checking up on everything. She's trying to adjust the heading by 0.31 degrees to the port, and the computer is glitching and not accepting her commands. First, there's no response, and then she asks again, then there's a real fritzy sound, fritzy sounding computer trying to say something. And then she calls for a manual override and initiate. and initiates a diagnostic of what's going on with the computer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And she goes in the turbo lift and we hear the computer say diagnostic complete. One third of the gel packs, basically 33.7% are non-functioning. And so seven decides to reroute some systems past those non-functioning gel packs to try to keep the power in the ship running. So the ship is really starting to lose its ability to sustain itself. So she says to reroute the systems around these non-functioning gel packs to try to keep things going. And we go to astrometrics. And there is a wide shot. We don't start close.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I was so happy. A couple of wide shots in a row. We see the astrometrics lab, Bay, you know, her room as she comes through the doors. And it does push down from this big wide shot, probably a wide lens, like to talk camera lenses for a minute. It was probably like a 12 or 14 millimeter lens, a pretty wide. lens. And it pushes from that wide lens down into her close-up. And I did say, okay, to myself, I said, okay, I like the wide shot in that lens. Yeah. But it's not a good lens for a close-up because those wide lenses distort faces. Luckily, they didn't stay in that for long. They cut
Starting point is 00:55:57 around to the back. Right. But from this astromatrix, astrometric scene, we do learn that there are six days left to get past this nebula. We jump out into the corridor. And she's walking along. And then all of a sudden, she hears seven, help. And it's Paris's voice. And she thinks, you know, he's been waking up. So it would make sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:19 We're going to this kind of handheld POV. Right. And everything's very dark. And she enters the Stasis Bay. And this is where, yeah, Paris and everyone is still in their chambers. They're still all asleep. Safely in their Stasis chambers. Paris is not sleep.
Starting point is 00:56:37 He was not sleepwalking. he didn't come out. Yeah. Also, when she comes in, this is the point that I was talking about earlier. When she comes in, you know, it's very creepy. We build up to the doors opening and she sees the stasis chambers, but it's only like the five of them. There's not the room behind or the mezzanine or anything.
Starting point is 00:56:54 This is the moment where I was like, oh, they cheaped out here. Yeah, you caught it. After she realizes everyone is safe, then a proximity alert sounds, a vessel is approaching, and all of a sudden, someone hails Voyager. and we realize that somebody by the name of Trajus Lotaric Trajus Lataric what a name Trajus Lotaric
Starting point is 00:57:17 Okay He's in need of a micro fusion chamber So he wants to trade And so seven she's game She says well do you have any liquid helium He says oh I have plenty So she says okay fine Let's I'm gonna beam you over
Starting point is 00:57:33 Beem you right into the cargo bay cargo bay and let's let's let's make this deal let's make this trade hmm so now they're in the cargo bay and uh what did she need the liquid helium for by the way i'm curious she had to fill the balloons up for the party you know helium is a naturally occur is a limited resource helium is a limited resource okay because uh when i've done shows recently in the last couple years and we've had party scenes where you want you know lots of balloons and maybe you're shooting that party for a week so every day you've got to get you know 200 balloons every day fresh balloons for the next day's work right you can't get enough helium there's a helium a worldwide helium shortage the last couple of
Starting point is 00:58:15 years my goodness i never realized that it's a limited resource so i wonder yeah i guess seven needs liquid helium i don't know what liquid helium is but uh i can just imagine us when we're really old talking to young people going you young kids don't even know what it was like to inhale Hell, Helium, and your voice sounded really funny. Mm-hmm. And the young kids will be saying, helium, what's that? What's that? Mr. McNeil? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:45 But in the future, they'll have liquid helium. Yeah, liquid helium. Synthetic liquid helium. And he has plenty of it. Yes. There you go. They're in the cargo bay, and he asked about her unusual name, seven of nine. And she says, well, it's a, it's a, it's a,
Starting point is 00:59:04 And he says, never heard of him. It's very nonchalantly. The way he played it was downright creepy. Yeah, I wrote, I mean, creeps on her. Yeah, it was, it was, it was to me. He was like, are you alone? He was following her. It was like somebody who came up to the door, knocks on the door, the 12 year old answers and says,
Starting point is 00:59:25 and says, yes, can I help you? And the person's like, well, can I use your phone? And then he comes in to use the phone and says, oh, your parents at home? And no, they're not at all. I got that whole feeling of like, yeah, it was creepy and he was a pedigal in some way. It was just weird. The other thing that was weird to me is she was very busy with her pad and or tricorder or something and going from box to box.
Starting point is 00:59:49 She was walking all over this place. And he kept sort of leapfrogging and chasing her and walking, creeping on her. But I kept thinking to myself, what is she doing? Like, what is her business? Is she doing inventory? Is she checking every box? and like, oh, I got to do inventory right now. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I just beamed you over here, but I'm just going to do inventory of this cargo bay. I mean, I know she was looking for the whatever he wanted. What do you want? The micro something. Yeah, Michael Fusion Chamber. But I just the fact that she's busy doing inventory while he's doing inventory right now. It's pretty funny. This is a good time for me to wander around every single box in cargo bay and scan it and make sure.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Don't cross-check my inventory list. There's 12 EPS relays. I distinctly remember 11 and there's now 12. It just went on a long time and I kept thinking, what is she doing? Like, if she was looking for the microfusion chamber, she just go, where's the microphone? Oh, box number 37G? There it is. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:49 You know. Okay. Besides his creepiness, her inventory was creepy to me. It was. Just a creepy scene all around. So he had tried five times to make it through this nebula. but he's going to be the first of his species to make it through and see what's on the other side and it'll be glorious and seven's like yeah she's very meh about this whole thing right um he then
Starting point is 01:01:15 asked seven how is she handling the loneliness and then she says that seems to stop her imagery yeah she didn't say anything she stops she stops taking inventory and she looks over it and he says he says i heard that drones can't stand being alone they're too used to the collective And this is that is so creepy because he had already said that he had never heard of the board. But now he clearly has heard of the board. And even creepier later, he mentions, well, maybe, you know, maybe we need to get something to eat and spend some time together, blah, blah. And she says, no, you will be, you know, this transaction, this term is finished, whatever, you must leave. And he says, well, and if I want to stay longer.
Starting point is 01:02:00 and then she says you will not be accommodated. I love that line. I want to say that from now on. If someone asks me something, I'm going to say that to them in real life. I'm going to say, you will not be accommodated. It's just,
Starting point is 01:02:12 it's so cool. It's a pretty good answer. It's a cool, Borg answer, you know, and seven said it. So this is another T-shirt idea, I think. So she pulls a phaser on them and says, and you know what?
Starting point is 01:02:25 She should have said like, ooh, there's a phaser in this inventory list in this box and pulls it out. She should have said that. before she pulled it out. So she pulls it on him and says, let's get out of here. So she's escorting him through the corridor at phaser point. Which, by the way,
Starting point is 01:02:38 she did a direct beam in into cargo bay. Couldn't she just telecomputer beam him out of cargo bay and back where he came from right now? Yes. Yes, Sherlock Holmes. Why does you walk him down the hallway for no apparent reason? You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:02:57 So he could have been beamed out right there. But it didn't, it, in her mind, he needed to have the, he had to walk the plank. You know, it's sort of like, you're going to walk the plank to the transporter room. And I'm going to make you think about those horrible suggestions and creepiness that you've, you know, bestowed upon me. So she's walking him down. Yeah. She hears Paris again. Harris's voice.
Starting point is 01:03:18 And she turns around. She's like, where is he? Yep. And she looks back and he's gone. Or he, you see the shadow of him running around the corner. Yeah. Trages is no more. He's gone.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Trejus is an apparition. And she gets to sickbay and she tells the doctor, there's no, there's, I've lost this alien. And the doctor's like, you know, he's tapping in the computer. He's like, well, that's interesting. Maybe he's cloaked. There's no sign of an alien. There's no sign of a ship. There's no sign of nothing.
Starting point is 01:03:46 So that's when you start realizing, hmm, is this a figment of her imagination? I don't know. And then, of course, another warning message, deuterium tank levels are fluctuating beyond acceptable tolerances. At least I think that's what it was, because the voice got really at the very end of that. Beyond acceptable.
Starting point is 01:04:07 It was very funny because it was like, beyond acceptable. Yeah. And the doctor's line, his response, he listens and he's got a funny face. And he goes, the computer sounds like it needs a stimulant. Yeah, that's what he's.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Which then reminded me of the episode Twisted, which then remind me that episode where Jamie was on the on the ground or on the bed going uh what did you say doggy dodo you're doing the impersonation of so that's what i was thinking yes during this but the doctor does say he has a real moment here near the end of the scene he says seven are you frightened because he senses her the fear and what's the anxiety going on and she pauses for a long time she looks at him and she says i am borg I am Borg.
Starting point is 01:04:56 You will not be accommodated, doctor. Your fear will not be accommodated. I am Borg. Yeah, that's awesome. And now we're back in the hall, and she's got the super cool rifle from first contact, by the way. Those are those rifles with the lights on them that they introduced in first contact, by the way. Do you think we ended up borrowing that from their reserve of stuff?
Starting point is 01:05:22 Probably. Probably, right? Yeah, probably. They were just like, let's make this look super badass and give her those new fancy feature. That was probably a Ken Biller special. He was probably pulling his weight. You know what?
Starting point is 01:05:35 I'm directing now. I'm going to use the stuff you used on the feature for my television show. Let's up the ante here. Yep. She's very paranoid. She's hearing whispers and voices like a haunted ship everywhere. Yeah. Well, the first sound, there's like a bang on a bulkhead.
Starting point is 01:05:52 And then you hear like a sound of a young. girl going, do you hear that? Did you hear that? Okay. So then you're wondering, huh? Then you hear the first voice speaking. It's a male voice. Could not make out who that was. The second voice was Neelix. Then there's Janeway. Then you hear Paris. Then you hear Kim. And then you hear Chacote. So you do hear quite a few of our regular heroes, our regular cast members in this kind of in this kind of paranoid, creepy voices. And she keeps looking around, ends up. back into the stasis chamber and paris and harry are still sleeping in their beds everyone's okay yeah and again they did not show the rest of the room just step 14 is just the five stasis chambers
Starting point is 01:06:34 and the only two actors that they had coming in day after day to lie in them were you and i you did see harry and paris sleeping in their beds but nobody else i would have loved to have seen paris just just randomly moving with his eyes close trying to get out trying to get out something along those lines She goes back out in the hall, Trajus starts to speak to her. And I said to myself, it sounds like it's on a speaker. Like, I couldn't tell, is this in her head? Is it a speaker? And he keeps talking to her.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Is it telepathic? I didn't know what was going on. Right. She doesn't respond. He says, sensors can't detect him. Censors can't pick up where he's at. She's going to have to ask him where he's at. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And he doesn't he say like, you know, well, I'm going to just give you, I'm not going to tell you, but I will say this, what would happen if the structural integrity around the warp coils collapsed? And so now she knows, engineering. So she runs, runs, runs engineering, doors open. And the warp core is going kind of fast at this point, but it looks fine. And he says, now, well, I couldn't bring myself to destroy your ship. And then all of a sudden, the lights go out, all the lights go out. Yeah. And she's kind of panicking here. And she finally does ask, where are you and he goes oh i thought you'd never ask and he says i'm on the bridge where you can do just about anything from there right and that's that's when we hear paris calling out right she looks up at
Starting point is 01:08:03 the second level it's tom and harry and tom does the mezzanine yeah some tom does a little shatner acting up there and he's like and then uh that's when she crashes up climbs up the ladder gets up to the mezzanine in the balcony and the engineering and looks over and they're on fire they're laying on the ground on fire laying on the ground on fire and then she reacts to that and then we cut back and then they vanished they literally like burn into nothing that was really disturbing though to watch us both on fire i don't remember that scene at all from when i first watched this years ago i had no recollection of that i remember filming it i remember it was very simple for us because they didn't they didn't put fire on us no no I know we just laid down on the ground yeah
Starting point is 01:08:52 and then they locked the camera off then we laid there and then we got up and then they got a clean plate right right I mean it wasn't fire to it correct it was added but I'm just saying it was disturbing to see the vis-effects of us burning you know I mean it was you want to think about us ever burning ever in real life so seeing this was sound painful it's very painful yes Okay. So Trajus is now just continuing to taunt her and he talks about firing a torpedo. He talks about a few things and then she decides to turn the tables on them and she cuts off the oxygen to the bridge because she asked him where he is. He said the bridge.
Starting point is 01:09:31 She turns off the oxygen and now she's listening as he's gasping for breath and gasping. And then he goes silent. She calls out to the doctor. He says, I fixed my mobile emitter. and he's marching very fast down the hallway. I'll meet you in engineering. And he's heading that way. And the door's open.
Starting point is 01:09:51 But to her surprise, it's not the doctor. And to our surprise, it's traggis. Tragis. And she fires at him with her first contact phaser rifle. No effect. And he continues to taunt her and calls her an ex-drone, a pathetic ex-dron. We're weak. Weak, yes.
Starting point is 01:10:15 You thought you could be a human, but you've failed. And now you, you know, you're just alone and weak and pathetic. Yeah. And also the warp core goes Borg green at this point. Oh. As he's taunting her. The warp core goes from our normal blue to green. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:32 So we know that this is all hallucination. Right. At this point, like that can't, it's not, it's not bored green. And then the doctor enters. You cut over to the doctor. know how long he's been standing there actually and he says nobody's watching her who are you talking to yeah who are you talking to nobody is there yeah but he does offer an explanation though he says he studied the gel pack and he discovered that the radiation was producing a degradation in the
Starting point is 01:10:59 synaptic relays and then he says well i'm guessing that there's also a similar effect on your borg implants that the radiation could be altering the neurotransmitter levels in her sensory nodes. And this is what is causing the hallucination. So he has a real life answer. Just sort of like put her at ease a little bit. You know, seven, you know, you're not going crazy. This is, this is happening to the ship, the gel packs, and now to you. And this is where she tells the doctor a story, a very emotional story about when she was a drone. I thought Jerry Ryan did a great job here. She says when she was a drone, she was separated from, you know, the collective for two hours. and she experienced panic
Starting point is 01:11:43 and she experienced apprehension and she said, I feel the same way now. Now. And it was very, very, I was very sympathetic for her. I love this moment because this is the first time
Starting point is 01:11:55 that seven is vulnerable, like really vulnerable to the audience. And it's a nice moment because this is, this is how you become fans of a character, right? The character lets you in on a little bit of their secret life or their emotional,
Starting point is 01:12:11 vulnerability, you know, and then all of a sudden, you start cheering for that character. Yeah. And this is a good turn for a seven. Yeah, it was a great moment. It was a great moment. And then in engineering, suddenly an EPS conduit, there's an explosion on a console. Right. And we realize the EPS conduits are failing.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Yeah. And the doctor says he tied in his Holo Matrix to the EPS conduits and he starts fritzing out. Yeah. And it's a nice pullback shot of seven standing all alone. in engineering. Yeah. You're going to have to do this all herself. I wrote that down.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I said, I like the pullback to show how alone she is. And to be perfectly honest, this is the only time I really noticed the pullback was in this shot. You noticed everything before this. So thank you for, yeah, thank you for bringing that up and letting me know that there were multiple moments of pullback. But this is the one that I thought was the most effective at least show. This one is very, very well designed because it was. It was a wide shot.
Starting point is 01:13:12 It showed us context and it showed us the whole room. And sad, scared little seven in the engineering. Oh, yeah. So we go to astromedrics next. Seven's working. And she's talking to the computer. How much further? Basically, she's trying to find out how much further.
Starting point is 01:13:31 So we hear a voice. We hear a voice say, it doesn't matter. You won't make it. And we reveal zombie. I'm going to call them zombie Harry. Okay. I wrote radiation Harry, but okay, you can do this. I like zombie Harry.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Okay. Zombie Harry's hanging out with her and she's not even looking at him. She knows now that she's hallucinating all this. I actually remember filming this scene. I remember when I came on set and Jerry was like, hey, Gooby, I think you got some food on your face is what she's just messing with me, you know, because it's quite obvious. There's a lot of junk on my face, clearly. But yeah, zombie Harry, toying with seven. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:14:13 That's a funny scene. And he comes over. He says, you can't shut me out. Yeah. And I wrote down, close talking. I was a little close talking there. More close talking. There's only, we do find out 17 hours, 20 minutes left.
Starting point is 01:14:27 She heads out of astrometrics, leaving zombie Harry by himself. Mm-hmm. And out in the hall, it looks like a Borg hallway. It's all green. There's smoke. Suddenly a drone appears. And I made a big note here. this drone, this board drone does not walk like a borg.
Starting point is 01:14:45 He looked very human to me. I thought his delivery of the dialogue was all good, but his physicality was much to, he was just sort of walking like a human. Well, this is pretty early in Ron Astro's career as well, right? So maybe he wasn't as comfortable, you know, he wasn't as relaxed as he could have been. Yeah, maybe he hadn't seen like first contact. Maybe he didn't know, but I did. did make a note that this really jumped out of me as being, I don't think they sustained the
Starting point is 01:15:15 kind of robotic, you know, movement, the physicality that we, you know, that we've seen established on our show and in the movie and all those things. Well, I would, I'm going to, I'm going to suggest that that is not Ron's fault and that is Ken Biller's fault. Ken should have been able to debrief this actor and say, hey, hey, let me just quickly show you a scene from first contact. If you don't know, this is the physicality of a Borg, and I want you to sort of mimic this the best that you can. So this is really a Ken Biller issue. Yeah, because he was, he was chasing her through the halls quite a bit. You know, you can't, you can't be walking like a human strolling through
Starting point is 01:15:57 Central Park. Okay. No. It felt a little bit like that. That's probably an exaggeration. It wasn't that, that casual, but it also was not. It was enough, it was enough that you noticed it. It did stand out, right? So yeah, so that's a problem then. That is a problem. Basically, though, he's there to say, you know, a board cannot be one. You cannot be one person alone. You will not survive. Yeah. And she says, no, I will survive alone. Yeah. I will adapt. And he says, no, you will, you will die alone. Exactly. Oh, do die alone. What a horrible thing to say. It is a horrible thing. It's horrible. Yes, it is. So now we're in the turbo. lift. And she's trying to shut that drone's voice out. And now, guess what? Trajus shows up.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Tragis shows up and he says, you're in pain, seven, I can help you. And as he creepily strokes her face with his alien hand, I have to stop and say, makeup department, excellent job on the hand. My goodness, that hand looked really, really detailed and wonderfully alien-like. So I thought, good job. And the door opens to show the interior of a Borg cube. And you hear, just make a choice. You don't have to, you don't have to, you know, even ask me for anything. Just step through that door. Step through.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Walk right through. And you hear resistance is futile. And now. And she knows that this is all her hallucination. She yells bridge. Yeah. To the turbo lift. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:30 She's kind of freaking out at this point. She is. We go to the bridge. And there are. Captain Janeway and Chacote and Harry and Paris and Tuvac, all of them like a Greek, I wrote down like a Greek chorus. Yeah, Greek chorus of doubting voices. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:48 I wish that I honestly wish we had been staged at our normal stations and just more casually sort of tossing, oh, you're not going to make it. And she like, as if we're sort of ghosts at our station. Because there was something about the formality of us standing and delivering that made it actually less dramatic to me. I hear you, but the way it was set up, the introduction of this scene is that she's in the turbo lift. So it's her POV as it opens.
Starting point is 01:18:15 And as it opens, she would only really see you at Kahn, you know, and maybe the back of Janeway's head a little bit, right? She couldn't have seen Tuvok and Kim. Or if she had stepped out and the POV had panned across to see everybody. I don't know. There could have been a way.
Starting point is 01:18:29 It just felt like the staging of us just standing there. It was kind of forced. force, but you're right, it was a Greek chorus. And the Greek chorus stands together. They're not apart. And I just, yeah, so really, I'm okay with it. But I see what you're saying. It would have been creepier if we were at our stations and just talking. But I do find that it was interesting that all the Voyager main characters are just the personification of doubt. Yep. That's it. That's what we were. Doubt in her mind. Yeah, Paris says at one point, what do you think she's thinking? And Janeway says, I know what she's thinking. So we know that these are all voices in her head that
Starting point is 01:19:04 know what she's thinking. She wants to reroute the power from the stasis chambers to the engine. Yes. To keep the engines running, she's going to have to sacrifice some of the crew. And if she doesn't keep the engines running, then the whole crew will die. So she's in a bit of a pickle here. Yes. Let me just go back just for a second. So when we have that warning of that propulsion system failure in progress, Tuvok says, what is she doing? Chikote says she's trying to keep the. Engines online. Paris says, place your bets. Anybody think she can do it? Kim says, I'll lay odds that she can't. And I just made a note, this is the only time, one of the few times, gambling. Yes, his reference dialogue is going on because I'm sitting there going, oh my God, laying
Starting point is 01:19:53 odds. That's something that I do at the craps table, you know, so I was very shocked to notice that this was used on a Star Trek Voyager episode and I say I'll lay odds that she can't. There's 41 minutes left and Harry says someone says it's too long. She won't make it. And Harry says, that's an eternity. And I say the same line that I said back in astramatrix. I said that's an eternity. Eternity back then.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And I'm still having problems with it now, 20, 30 years later. That's an eternity. Yeah, that's an eternity. Saying that to me is a tongue twister. That's an eternity. That's an eternity. That's an eternity. It's just the getting the last T and eternity to be pronounced is hard for me to do that because I think it's because. You nailed it. You made it work. I didn't make it work in astermetrics. Every now and then one word will kind of trip me up and that's one of them. And I felt that weird that they repeated the same line from astromatrix to hear. But it's okay. You know, it's not a horrible thing that it was repeated. She does end up rerouting power from 10 of the stasis chambers to propulsion systems. Correct. resumes course and at the end paris says i win i knew she didn't care about him yeah and i was like hey there's the bet i was the winner i guess i suppose i guess i was part of that bet yes you're part
Starting point is 01:21:19 of the bet and then she rushes to deck 14 because after you go i win she didn't care about us she felt bad yes it was your words that prompted her to rush and paris is dying when she comes into the to the um but before she comes in guess who's standing at the doorway to deck 14 zombie slash radiation janeway says come to watch them die is what she says right so it's freaky it's scary opens up and paris is choking he's gagging he's he's shatnering all over the place inside that stasis tube and uh how many minutes left 11 minutes left at this point to get through. Seven makes the decision.
Starting point is 01:22:01 She cuts life support to all the decks, reroutes any available power to the failing stasis units, which would be Tom Parris's, Harry Kim's, random background person, Tuvok and Jingley. So those are the five that are right there, right? That's one through 10, or at least one through five, at least. Yep. But she's going to save those people and sacrifice herself by taking life support offline. And she starts losing consciousness and, uh,
Starting point is 01:22:28 And the last thing she says is she will adapt. She says, I am seven of nine. I am alone, but I will adapt. And very heroic of her to give up her life. Because for all intents and purposes, she knows I'm cutting off my ability to survive, but I'm going to, you know, the needs. And the save. Yep.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Yeah, the needs of the many. The many. The needs of the few, right? So she let herself sacrifice. her own life for this and we think she's going to die and it kind of goes to black and then we see a POV in sick bay and there's a healthy looking Janeway and doctor and I think Chacote was in there and we realized that she lived and she's in the surgical bay and sick bay and she seems very shaken when she sits up but she says she was glad to help and Janeway says I want to
Starting point is 01:23:22 once you recover I want to hear all about this and I made a note that I felt like all the other actors seem so relaxed like they had had a nice nap in the stasis chair they missed all of this drama they just went to sleep yeah you mean because the way jane way says hey i've heard you've had an adventure i'd like to hear about it sometimes it's just so casual it's like and relaxed and seven poor seven is just like you can see the how shaken she is and how yeah she's just been traumatized by this thing he's traumatized then we go to mess hall and seven comes in a mess hall and she asks if she can join harry and tom and balana they're sitting down eating and and she says she felt the need for some companionship and i love that that uh paris took a shot at the
Starting point is 01:24:17 doctor here paris goes well after a month with only the doc for company i can understand that because I think the doc took a couple shots at Tom. Oh, yeah. No, he has. But he also took shots at you in the episode Living Witness when he talks about the Holodeck recreation of all the Voyager characters not being anywhere close to how they really are in real life, well, except for Tom Paris. So he took a shot at you there.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah, he's taking shots when I'm not around to defend myself. That's right. So I took a shot at the doctor here. You deserve a shot back at the hologram. There you go. I also love how seven. another seven borgish, a borgism when she says, when Taurus says, you should have some soup.
Starting point is 01:24:58 It's actually pretty good. And seven goes, I don't require nourishment at this time. And I think I'm going to use that too. When someone goes, you want to grab some food, I'm like, I don't really require nourishment at this time. I want to say the same thing. Yeah, good. Good, Borg talk.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Yeah, Bork talk. She did tell everybody that on four separate occasions, they had to put Tom Paris back in his stasis chamber. And they're like, and I think Harry asked, like, why? what and uh paris is like i don't know why i just don't like small spaces and then seven ends the episode with well perhaps you dislike being alone and she can appreciate the company and connection and people so she's grown a lot in this episode yeah the character development episode yeah and that's the end of our episode that is it you are your lesson whether real or comedic is
Starting point is 01:25:52 is my lesson my theme for this episode is really that connection and company are important to feel truly human that seven was on a huge you know her journey to become more human and she really learned this lesson of connection how important that is and not not feeling alone yeah i think that's really important for everyone to whatever they're going through um good or bad. If you're going through something good, it's great to not feel alone so you can celebrate with other people. And if you're going through something bad, it really clearly is important to remember that no one's ever alone. Okay. So what's your lesson? My lesson is kids don't invite strangers into the house when your parents are gone. That's my lesson. They'll be creepy.
Starting point is 01:26:45 They will be creepy. And they're not there for what they said they were there for them for that trade that was going to happen no i have a question though so if this guy trages yes he kept telling about you know oh he's tried four times to get through this nebula five this is five times this is all made up in her head like there was no real alien no correct this is just a figment of her imagination so i guess this is elaborate elaborate figment yes exactly so i guess this is just sort of a composite of other aliens she's met that sort of her paranoia and her loneliness sort of created this or other aliens she's assimilated in the past yeah okay what would you give this uh one out of 10 i'm gonna say seven i'm gonna give it a seven same zes wow sevens yeah for both in the seven yeah i'm a solid
Starting point is 01:27:39 seven to the seven episode oh yeah look at that i you know i i i really really think it's a good episode, but I missed having all our characters involved. I really, as I've said, that's a deal breaker for me. I would have gone higher because it is a real good. Jerry's performance was great. I think the concept is really good and the character development for her was really good, but I just missed having our whole cast involved in some way, a little more. But I do, I did find it fun to see radiation slash zombie characters talking.
Starting point is 01:28:13 I mean, just playing radiation zombie Harry was super fun to be able to be. be like, you'll never make it, you know, all this like stuff where we're teasing her and taunting her. So that was different for us too. Like we didn't get to speak that way. So it was kind of nice, a little bit of variety. And you're right. Whenever we did see scenes with some of our main characters, it was refreshing. It was like, oh, they're still part of the show. You know, so there they are. I know. I missed them. I agree. I agree. Well, good. What's next week? Yeah. So next week, believe it or not, is our final episode of season four. We wrap up season four with hope and fear. Hope and fear is the final episode of fourth season. So that's our next
Starting point is 01:28:57 episode that we will be recap in. Hope and fear. All right. So thank you, everyone, for tuning in to our recap and discussion of one. And join us next week when Robbie and I discuss hope and fear. Patreon patrons, please stay tuned for your bonus material. Bye.

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