The Delta Flyers - Prophecy

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Prophecy. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars. Prophecy:The Voyager comes across a Klingon ship, the crew of which believe that B'Elanna's unborn child is the saviour they have been seeking for over 100 years.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, Kate Mulgrew, Brannon Braga, Bryan Fuller, & John EspinosaAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co-Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Daniel de Rooy, Chris Knapp, Michelle Z, Janet K Harlow, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, E, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Kelly Brown, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, William McEvoy, Sarah Thompson, Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Jamason Isenburg, Adm. Bill "Seoulman" Yu, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Ashley Stokey, Zachary Upton, Lori Tharpe, Mary Burch, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Dominique Weidle, Lisa Robinson, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlman, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Barbara S., Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Megan Chowning, Tae Phoenix, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Bronwen Duffield, Andrew Duncan, Lauren Wolffe, David Buck, Jeremy Mcgraw, Ali S, Danie Crofoot, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Michael Dismuke, Jonathan Brooks, Gemma Laidler, Rob Traverse, Penny Liu, Matt Norris & Stephanie LeeAnd our Producers:James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Ann Marie Segal, Chloe E, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Jocelyn Pina, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Maxine Soloway, Barbara Beck, Species 2571, Mary O'Neal, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Scott Lakes, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Tara Polen, Jenna Appleton, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Lucas Shuck, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Jennifer Jelf, Justin Weir, Mike Chow, Kevin Hooker, Aaron Ogitis, Jonathan Neal, Ryan Benoit, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, Clark Ochikubo, David J Manske, Roxane Ray, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Cindy Holland, Will Forg, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Russell Nemhauser, Lawrence Green, Christian Koch, Lisa Gunn, Lauren Rivers, Shane Pike, Jennifer B, Dean Chew, Akash Patel, Corey Dennis, Cameron Wilkins & Michael ButlerThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at [e-mail].”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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forward slash the Delta Flyers. So, Major Chin, what is that about? okay um it was an it's a project that i would like to forget about if i could oh wow it's just one of those things independent film um shot in los vegas yes and tim russ is in it as well i saw that and kevin sorbo as well and a bunch of there's a bunch of other people in that but it's it's essentially how do i say it you have Let me tell you, you had Kevin Sorboe. Yeah.

Names that I, that I'm familiar with. Jake Busey. Yeah, you know who that is. Yeah, Tim Russ, yourself. Yeah. Gary Graham. Sam Sorbo, I guess, is his, Kevin Sorbo's wife. Maybe.

I didn't have any scenes with her or whoever that is, you know. It's a, yeah, her. And then a lot of other people I don't recognize, but. Yeah, a lot of newbies, too. Um, yeah, it was just, it was just, I don't even know how this came about, but I, I, I just remember when I was filming it, I wasn't really comfortable with my weight at the time, you know, I was just like, I felt like out of shape a little bit, I suppose. And just, and overall, it was such a weird shooting situation. It's the only set I've been on where the director brought a lazy boy recliner chair. What? Yes. That sounds very idiosyncratic and very quirky And why Hollywood has a bad name He didn't sit in a director's chair

He sat in a lazy boy recliner And he just he just He would yell commands from the late Like he would never get up from it He would make everyone come to him And I just thought This is so quirky And so offbeat

And so not professional as well And it was kind of like What I love about you as a director is that when you talk to actors you kind of talk in a more of a hushed voice like you don't sit there and like hey you like you don't broadcast it you know but this guy when he wasn't happy

about something because he wouldn't leave his chair he would yell it and he would yell his displeasure with what the actor was doing and I thought man this is this is not a way to kind of you know get the troops on your side you know you're singling people out

you are you're kind of scolding them it's just i don't know scolding or embarrassing or shaming or all kinds of yeah it's a it's an amateur uh yes way of directing in my opinion yes and the reason why i agree to do this project is that he had done a project with nischel nichols i think beforehand so i you know i thought oh okay well this guy knows what he's doing you know and then i get in there and and the whole lazy boy thing and it just when they asked me to go to the premiere i didn't answer. I was like, nope, I'm not going. You know, I didn't go to the screening. I didn't do anything after that was done. Yeah. So it was kind of a negative experience, to be perfectly honest. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I triggered you and brought it back up. That's okay. I'm just going to

it's long past. It's long past. I'm going to go cry over here. Okay, I'll stay in. Yeah, long past. So well, well, well, well past. And if anyone sees it, good on them. and I don't like to talk smack about other people, but it was just such a weird experience. I've never, like, as long as you've worked, have you ever worked with a director who sat, who brought a lazy boy onto set and just plopped it right in the middle of the set? Never.

No. Very unprofessional. Very. So, yeah, it is what it is. Yeah. All right. Well, let's talk about prophecy, shall we? Yes.

This is the episode for this week. And my goodness, we're on the 13th episode. We have, let's see, after prophecy. I think there's, like 11 more after this, 10 or 11 more. And then we're, this is, I can't believe how close we are to the end. Oh, my gosh. I can't wait to watch it. It's getting very exciting.

So we'll go watch it. For all our Patreon patrons, please stick around for your bonus material. And for everyone else, we'll see you in a minute. See you soon. Well, well, well. Well, well. Yes, yes, yes. Here we go. All I'm going to say is

Mo Bar Dolomage, Kovar Mo Bar Dolomage, Kovamach. I really got into that chant. That chanting was cool. It was cool. It was very cool. Yeah. Let's start out with poetry. All right. Here is

my haiku for prophecy. Okay. Klingons Lost in Space. Tom's kid is Klingon Jesus? Paris fights well in fur.

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, very good. No, that's one extra syllable. Oh, that's okay. That's okay. No, it's Paris fights in fur. That's what it was, not well in fur.

Okay, Paris fights in fur. There we go. Okay, got it. Better, that's much better. Thank you. All right, here we go with our limerick for prophecy. It goes a little something like this.

A really old Klingon ship gets in Voyager's way, hoping for a foretold savior right away. Harry is traumatized, but Neelix gets satisfied. Then a PT baby shows up to save the day. Oh, I love the PT baby inclusion. Very nice. And Harry is traumatized. Yes, yes. Doing fine.

You fit a lot in there. My goodness. All right. So let's just say this is the longest writers. title card I've ever seen in my life ever ever teleplayed by mike susman and ampersand and phyllis strong story by larry nimichick amperson and j kelly burke and raff green amperson and ken biller so you were correct and i was correct in ken biller we got that guess correct and i just on a whim got freaking terry wendell it's crazy because we keep talking about how many episodes did he do and he

He really became, if you had asked me before we started this podcast, I was that he directed two episodes. I would have said one. And then now it's, it's literally been as much as David Livingston was in seasons one, two, and three. I also want to mention, I love that the story is partially by Larry Nemechek and his wife, Jay Kelly Burke. Oh my goodness. I didn't realize that was his wife. Yes. Oh my goodness. All right. They must have pitched or, you know, submitted a pitch for a story about a Klingon ship. So I know I've known Larry. We've known Larry. We've seen Larry on the convention circuit since day one, probably.

Since day one. And he's written articles and all kinds of magazines. And he's obviously, you know, an expert in the Trek world. Right. And I love that he got a story in here. He got a story. I'm just happy for him. Yeah.

Super happy. Let's run through these guest stars. We have Sherman Howard as Tegreth. Now, it's interesting, like, he was the doubter. He kept not believing this was the child. And his Klingon name begins with the T-apostrophe, which usually is like a Vulcan beginning, like T-Pal, but Tegreth is the same. It starts with the same letter as Thomas, the Apostle that was the doubter, Thomas the Dowder. So I don't know if it got that deep in terms of it.

Probably not. You're like, no. All right. I love that you're trying to find meaning. Yes. I love it. Mr. Howard, Sherman Howard, has one of the longest resumes I've ever seen. His very first credit was General Hospital in 1963. Oh, my gosh. And so here's the thing. It said in IMDB, it says General Hospital TV series. I thought, well, maybe this is not the soap opera. Then I Googled, when did the General Hospital, the soap opera begin April 1st, 1963. April Fool's Day was the first episode of General Hospital. And he was on it. So that's pretty crazy. He was then credited, not as Sherman Howard. He was Howard Sherman. Oh, interesting.

So I feel, yes, but this is what's crazy. As Howard Sherman, the character he played on General Hospital was Golden Broadford Gray. So he was Howard Sherman as Gordon Broadford Gray. And his next credit is 1984. So 21 years later, he has another credit because I think the name Howard Sherman just didn't. Because of his name. Because of that name. Yeah, and then all of a sudden he reverses the order, Sherman Howard, and then he has a little bit more gravitas, and now he's booking jobs.

I'm going to go McNeil Robert. Yes. I'm switching it up. McNeil Robert, yeah. So switch it up. He was also in a DS9 episode, and also a, he did a video game voice for Star Trek Armada, too. So those are his other trick credits. I'm going to go, actually, I'm going to reverse my name.

I'm going to go with Lincum. Lincombe Trobor. You're saying it totally backwards. You're Trebor. I've already done this. I've already done this. I reversed your name while we were on Voyager and I told you that was your name actually in the makeup trailer.

I did that for everybody. Yeah. So, yes, I like that. Lincoln. Linkum Trebor. Trebor. Linkum Trebor. That's my new career name.

You know mine, I feel pretty good. And I'm Nau Terag. So that's it. Nall Terag. gna and linkum are we've been friends for so long now okay non linkum he's a great names all right let's move on to yes paul extein paul extein played moroc or moroc or morak moroc moorac uh he was one of the clangons that was sort of sitting around the fireplace sort of like you know oh yeah hey what's going kind of talking to tigrath and tigreth is a little smaller or skinnier

than the other guy well skinnier yeah but he was still tall he was skinny and tall he was also the guy that was standing outside of of engineering when balana tries to walk out he's like oh yeah it's her like he's the it's her guy and then later he's one of the council people i think so okay all right so that is paul lexstein and the very first credit i could find for him is the 1995 film seven the one with brad pitt and morgan for yeah that one of my favorite movies good movie all right we have ren t brown ren t brown who played colar colar uh he has just as long of a resume as mr Sherman, massive. But his very, very first credit is

1985 episode of Night Rider that he was cast in. So Hasselhoff, and he probably knows each other. It's an iconic show. It really is. And he got to work with the Hoff. He got to work with the Hoff. We also have Peggy Joe Jacobs as Nielix pronounces it. He said,

Chitriga, is how he says that. Officer Chitriga. Yes. Peggy Joe Jacobs, her very first credit, is an episode of Clueless, the TV show from 1998. They were filming right next door to us. They filmed on the Paramount lot right down the street from us. Yeah.

Yeah. So Peggy just sort of worked there and then hopped over to our soundstage. So she worked in Paramount a couple of a couple times. Now, that's her first on camera. She does have a 1997 credit one year earlier. She is the voice of alien vixen. So maybe this is foreshadowing that she did this voice of alien vixen and then became an alien vixen in this episode.

A Clingon vixen. Yes. And the name of that video game that she did, Alien Vixen voice, was Redneck Rampage. Redneck Rampage. And not, I gotta say, we're laughing now, but it was so successful. They actually made a sequel,

which she also voiced her same character. In 1998, the sequel is Redneck Rampage Rides Again. So that. Wow. Redneck Rampage. Wow. All right. I'm speechless.

It's a mouth. yeah okay let's jump into this we're out in space do we ever start with the exterior space shot of us being attacked not not being attacked that's what i said oh we're we're just floating in space and suddenly out of nowhere uh shots ahead toward us but we have our shields up yeah did you notice like shields are holding yeah what the heck do we ride around with our our shields do we always just fly around with shields on you know what we shouldn't have them up no we they're only up when janeway says shields up yes oh that's weird that's not right we should have taken actual damage then you know what i'm saying we should have been shieldless

we should have been great catch robby i'm really i think so although how much resources would it it's like having your airbags turned off right like yeah you keep your airbags in your car on all the time why wouldn't you keep the shields up unless it's draining resources right and then you're going to shut them down. I don't know. Maybe there's a, maybe there's a light shield that's always on. Sort of like, you know, because like a half airbag. Yeah, like a half airbag, because let's just talk about all the meteors that just might be flying through space that might hit our hull. You need a little bit of light shielding going on. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll buy that. I'll buy that. All right. Yeah. Meteor's and stuff. Okay. Astronomy and things.

Okay. Yes. So yeah, we're hit by some weapons fire. We put it on the bridge. Janeway says report. Yeah, she's coming in from the ready room, though. She's got action coming in here. You know, that's good, right? Coming in from the ready room. We can't identify them because wherever these shots are coming from, the ship is cloaked. Yeah. But Tuvok says that it's a Klingon signature on these weapons.

Yeah. We make evasive maneuvers. Paris is amazing, as usual. Oh, always. Flying out of there. You know what? That should be your middle name. Paris.

Tom, Evasive maneuvers, Paris. Yes, it should be. Because my evasive maneuvers. which are some of the best in the quadrant. They really are. But from our Tetreon readings, we do find out that this is a D7 class cruiser. Now that, and Tom Perez talks about it, that was retired decades ago. I mean, this is a very old ship.

Yes. And it's very confusing. And because they have such old tech, it's Chocote that suggests a metaphysics scan to penetrate their cloak. What the hell is a metaphysics scan? It's just. Have we ever said that before? Yes. A metaphysics scan?

yes we have i was like he's just making us no no we said it in uh the episodes with john um dear hunter actor yeah john john savage savage yeah um okay all right fine i did it sounded like chocote just made that up like metaphase yeah he just pulled that out of his bum he's like hey well if he made it up he calls to astrometrics and seven knows what the hell he's talking about seven knows So she says, I'll do it. She's on it. She detects a vessel. Yeah.

And gets all the info, sends it up to the bridge, to Tuvok. And he's got the info. Genev, he's like fire those phasers. And then we cut over to a Klingon bridge. Yes. And they're taking some fire. And their emitters are offline. The Federation ship hails them again.

Our Voyager ship, they call the Federation ship. And the captain says, answer them, which Tegreth is like, wait, what? Talk to, you know, so already, you know, Kolar is into, let's talk about this. Tegreth is like, we would never talk to humons. Yeah. Well, part of his reason why he wants to talk or answer the hail is because it might buy more time to get the cloak back online. So they can keep attacking us. Yeah.

But that's his, but we kind of, no, you think he's making it up? No. Because he hasn't met Balana yet, so I'm saying. See what I'm saying? So if you knew that plan beforehand, he wouldn't, okay, yeah. Okay. All right. All right.

Anyway, Janeway pops up on the- I debunked it. You did. Okay, good. You did. I'm excited. We see Janeway on the view screen, on their view screen, which I got to say is rare. Like, normally we're on our bridge looking at the other guys on our view screen.

We don't see that perspective for this one. To go on their ship and look at Janeway, you know, we didn't do that shot. because you have to set the camera up to do a view screen shot in a different way than you would normally do it. Yeah, so she's on the view screen. And I just got to say,

yay, Klingon, it's fun to see the old-school Klingon look here. But it also made me wonder about if the doctor was wrong when he told Balana that Klingon DNA is dominant because Balana doesn't look like when I saw these Klingons,

I was like, wow, Balana does not look very Klingon. So how can her DNA be so dominant when she looks much more human than Klingon. So I think the doctor needs to revise his assessment of that. Yeah, she, exactly. She does not look very Klingon at all. And she looks less Klingon than she did season one episode one.

I'm going to say that too. The ridges changed as well. They get smaller. That happens with DNA. DNA does that? It just reverses the look of somebody. Okay, over time. Interesting.

Yeah. Klingon DNA is totally opposite of what the doctor. said it's very fragile and we'll break down very easily right anyway so janeway comes on when they start talking colar says that he's from the clingon empire and janeway says wait a minute what are you talking about that the empire signed a peace treaty uh we're not your sworn enemies more than 80 years ago 80 years ago we signed this treaty so that's still an effect i think yeah and colar does not believe her no but the trump card The ace in the hole is, Janeway says, oh, I'm not lying. I have a Klingon crew member.

I have a chief engineer. Well, sort of, sort of Klingon. Yeah, sort of. Right? Yeah. She doesn't, yeah. She's Klingon. She's Klingon adjacent.

We know she's Klingon. She's Klingon adjacent. So we cut to the bridge. Janeway's explaining the situation. She says, I'll give you databases to, you know, prove to you that there is a treaty. and he says well that could be falsified which is true yeah and I love at the end of this when he says this conversation on the view screen when he says okay I'll meet your chief engineer and she says we'd be honored to have you as our guest yeah and my looks as because Janeway's

standing right by oh no what did you do I have like these sheepish looks like what did you do I don't know what I was doing but it was I just noticed that like these sheepish sort of oh you're going to invite them over I don't know if I agree. I don't know what I was doing, but it was a weird faces. Were you Janeways to Greth? Were you doubting her? Maybe I was doubting a little bit. No.

Or maybe I was just like, yeah, that's my wife. That cling on you're talking about. I don't know, but it was a funny look. And then we cut to space. We see that we're side by side with this Klingon vessel. It looks like we're at impulse because the stars are kind of moving fast. And I thought to myself, where are we going hanging out with this? Like, why are we at impulse?

why aren't we just stop let's stop for a minute let's get to know each other or shouldn't we just hang out for a minute before we start dating on the move but there we are flying through space okay uh now we're in the corridor and there's a little bit of a walk and talk with polar jane way and she's just kind of reassuring him don't worry everything's fine you're not going to be harmed kind of a thing and he's very gruff and he's like i'm not I'm not going to talk to you until I see the Klingon is all he says. Yes, right? And as they get on the turbo lift, did you see Kate's eye roll?

Maybe the best eye roll. Maybe I don't know. I think the doctor has probably some of the top eye rolls of all time. Yeah, he's got some good ones. But I loved her eye roll as they get in the turbo lift. It was amazing. We go to the briefing room. Janeway introduces colar to Torres.

Yeah. And immediately he sees that she's pregnant, which I think is the first time we've seen on the show. the baby bump. Have we seen the baby bump before? I don't know. If they put it in there, I didn't notice it.

No one called it out. I think we have. You don't think so? You think this is the very first time? I mean, I know we've said that she's pregnant, but I don't know that we've seen it. You might be right. You might be right. Yes.

You might be right. But I do find it funny that she makes the introductions, and he doesn't even say, hi, good to meet you. He just says, you're a child. He just says that statement. But of course, this is something they've been searching for over 100 years.

So the chance to stop flying around and settle down is very, very a real possibility now for Kolar. And I think that's the first thing that he and the main thing that he saw. He's like, oh, my God, we can finally stop now if I can make this work. Well, he first, he says, did you conceive during the holy month of napak? Yeah. Napok. And she's like, I have no idea.

She did not very spiritual. Then he says the 14 or 15 weeks ago and she thinks for a second, she says, yeah, that's sounds about right yeah not that it's any of your business right love very balana yeah but um that's more confirmation that maybe this child is right could be uh yeah i think at that point he's he's he's like oh my god this is perfect you know i mean i i can't i couldn't have scripted this any better colar is thinking and he's like i got to go back to my ship so all of a sudden everyone's looking around going why what's happening don't you even want to see the record Treaty.

Treaty between the Klingon Empire and Starfleet. He's like, oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Just, you know, just email me the details later. Bye. And he's gone, okay. He's gone. But right before he leaves, he looks back at Balana and there's this long look to Balana. What was that?

I don't know. I think he was putting all this together. Maybe this is the child we've been looking for. He's going down the checklist to make sure this could be possibly it. Yes. I just think that the moment was too long for me. It was long. It was just, it was perplexing.

of why every other shot was not like that long drawn out just there and that and yeah we're both bothered by that moment so it was a little weird i will say just an overall comment on this episode okay it felt slow generally to me wow a lot of the conversations it was just paced slowly okay and i wish it had been had more a little bit faster a little more zing to it yeah i agree with you on that It felt a little plotting to me. Yes. Anyway, long look to Bologna. He says, you have my word, exits.

Again, I made a comment about Janeway's eye roll. She does not even an eye roll, but like a, what a weird or what a creep. I don't know. It was great. She's got some good face. Wow. Janeway facial mugging left and right here. Yes.

Okay. All right. And at the end of the scene, Bala says, what the hell is that about? Which I made a note. She really doesn't know any of this cling on stuff. She doesn't know about the Holy Month. She doesn't know. She doesn't want to know.

She's clearly not interested. No. Yeah, you're right. She doesn't know it. She doesn't know it. Back on the Klingon ship, Kolar has basically told everybody what he's found out. And Tigrath is, you know, already doubting it. How can you be certain?

Kolar talks about the scrolls, the sacred scrolls. They talk about all these different things that really kind of fit, actually. And I think this is also. So where I was wondering, why don't they have a briefing room? It's like they were all just standing there in the middle of just. They were kind of standing on the bridge because that's the only set they could afford to. Oh, I didn't think that was the bridge. I thought that was elsewhere.

Was that the bridge? Okay. All right. I think it was the bridge. Okay. You know, Colar in the end basically says tell everybody to prepare the day of separation has arrived. Yeah. And they all leave.

So this big day that, you know, the sacred day they've been waiting for is arrived. As they left, though. Yeah. and the monitor behind them was revealed and it looked like in this dark ridge or whatever it looked like a video game to me all of a sudden

as they walked away I was like that missile command it looked like an old Atari video game it wasn't centipede what is it playing right there yeah or Gallagher or something it felt like those old one of my favorites we were that they shot this scene in an old video

arcade that was kind of dark where they had all those things I had a flashback back to the old days. Well, yes, I did not notice that monitor. But from this scene, I did then realize what the plot was. Because when I read the Netflix synopsis, it talked about they had been, you know, basically lost for 80 years or whatever. And so I kept thinking that, oh, they're like us.

But no, they went on this journey on purpose. You know, they knew that they were going to be a multi-generational journey. So this was the scene where I realized. Oh, okay. These are not, this is not the Klingon version of Voyager getting lost against their will. They're here on a mission and they think they've found it. This is their choice to go on this crazy, crazy journey. Right.

Okay. So next we go to our bridge and Harry says, Captain, the Klingon ship, he reads that their core is breaching. If their core is breaching and we're right next to them, dating in space as we were, hanging out close, Jamie calls for Red Alert and calls up their captain, Colar pops up and he says, hey, our core is breaching and you must have done more damage than we thought. And Jamie says, well, we'll send some people to help. And he goes, no, there's not time. You've got to transport us off immediately. Yeah, Harry reads that the breach is going to happen in

less than 30 seconds. You know, my note is like, man, Colar, you are cutting it close. Like you could have said like, hey, yeah, we. What if we said no? What if we said no? So I would have set it at five minutes. You know what I'm saying? That's enough time. And it's not enough time to send over a team to help and fix it, but it's enough time in case the federations. That's what I'm going to say that the Klingons call us.

The federations said no. So there you go. Well, what if we said, what if, by the way, because later on the Klingon doesn't understand how our transporter technology can transport so many people. They didn't know that, clearly. No. So they were just guessing that we could transport over.

How many people? 200. 200. Some. Yeah, 200 and change. 204 people. They don't even know that our transport technology could do that. It's very risky.

It is. And that's way more than we have on our ship. Yeah. That's significantly more than we have. That's more than our crew compliment. We will be outnumbered by these guys. By Klingons. Yes.

Very dangerous move. Of course, Janeway decides to bring over the Klingon. Yeah, but she does say erect a force field around. the shuttle bay she does or cargo bay shuttle bay shuttle bay so there is a little safety there she's not yeah january tells paris to go to warp as soon as the cruise aboard kim's counting down five four three two we've got them yeah and we take off again evasive maneuvers a plus on that fly away for tom paris did you like the explosion of the d7 i did i made it a no great explosion all the little detail of debris and it was cool and sad to see like this is an antique

cling on ship right yes it's sad to see them scuttle it like that it's like what are you doing save that that could be a museum so i know like if it's an antique car or something you don't want to you know total it crash or blow it up you want to save that thing yeah but no it blew it up you know it's funny i knew that you would like that explosion i've been doing this so long with you i can almost it's like I'm married to you. Because it was good. You can tell what everybody can tell. It's not like I've got some superpower.

No, but I'm saying. You can tell when there's a good VFX and when there's a mediocre VFX and when there's a bad VFX. Yes. Yes, you can tell. Okay. But I'm just still saying doing this long enough. You got me. I get the rhythm of Robert Duncan McNeil.

You know what I'm going to say. I know what you're going to say. So I feel it. Okay. All right. Then we go into the shuttle bay. Yeah. And we see all of these X, these Klingons, 204.

What did you think of that shot? Were you? It was actually pretty good, but I'll explain to everybody what that shot is. Okay. We don't have a set that big. Correct. And we did not hire that many extras and put them all in makeup to fill up. So the way that you do a shot like that is called tiling.

And you tile, you basically put the camera back until you're shooting off the set. And then Vizifax extends it so it looks bigger than our set really is. And then you shoot all of these Klingons on green screen and you replicate them over and over. So if you go back and look at that moment when they're all in there, there's some Klingons moving. I went back and looked at it to see how good a title. You paused it and looked at it. I watched it a couple of times. And there are some moments where you can see like a group of six Klingons and one of them starts walking over.

And then he sort of disappears behind another. Klingon. It's like, oh, they tiled this and they were trying to get all this. So it's really probably about six or eight Klingons that they had on the day that they just replicated over and over. If you look at that, you'll see them replicated in different positions probably, but the same people just filmed over and over and over. Do production still use tiling today? Yes, totally. Oh, yeah. Often if you're in a, if you're in like a, let's say you're in a performance of a, or or lecture, where someone's lecturing and they're supposed to be, you know, a thousand people in the audience. You're not going to hire a thousand extras. No. You might hire 150. And then you'll

you'll sit the camera on stage while you go film something else. The Viz effects guy will sit there with that locked off camera and tell those 150 or 100 people. Yeah. Hey, sit in these seats. Now move around. We'll roll for 20 seconds on you there. Cut. Now move over here. We'll roll over here. Then move over here. We'll roll over here. And then you put it all together. with split screens and tiling, and it looks like you had a thousand people there when you really had 100. But it takes a long time. It's very tedious.

It's very labor intensive, it sounds like. Yeah. Okay. All right. So we have them. And then the next scene is in the ready room. Colar is appreciative that they were spared a dishonorable death. He's so appreciative.

I think he went to the beauty parlor because his hair looked. His hair looked different in this scene than before. Yes. He had spruced up a little bit. What was going on? I don't know what was going on, but it was beautiful. That was a beautiful man of hair. Gorgeous cling on hair.

Yes. But we do discover they didn't blow up. Yeah, it wasn't from damage. She goes, you activated yourself to Truxie. We know why. Yes. Like, what are you doing? And he tells them, he says, a hundred years ago, this is a sacred moment.

And a hundred years ago, he explains his grandfather was part. of a sect that believed the empire had lost its way. Great grandfather, actually. That's right, great grandfather. And he discovered the sacred text and took them on this journey to a distant part of the galaxy. Yeah. And so we realized they've been, it's a generational ship. This is where Jane Lee learns this. And they're looking for the Kuva monk, the savior of our people, that will lead us to a new empire. And Robbie say that again. What's the savior's name? Kuva Mank. Yeah, I get that. You've been taken clean.

Yeah, the mach, the G.H is like, who are ma'amach? Yeah, you got it. Yes. They say that the scrolls instruct us to follow her wherever she goes. So we realize they're looking for a girl. I guess it's an unknown or unspoken fact that they knew that your kid is going to be a, I mean, it's already been, yeah, that's a bit of a hole in the plot right there, I think.

Yeah. When did he find that out? How did he find that out? Mm-hmm. Did he do his own little scan? But all of their tech is so old. That I don't think that, I don't know. No, I think just like, you know, the 30 seconds to get off the ship where you might put, he just rolled the dice.

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for first three months only. Speeds may slow above 35 gigabytes on unlimited plan. Taxes and fees extra. See Mint Mobile for details. do like the part where Kolar says, I believe the Kuva Ma is the unborn child of Belana Torres. And then the next shot is just, is a rock stand going, you're joking like that. I did like that. I did too. Yeah, in the briefing room. I made a ha-ha-ha note.

Good. Because I did laugh out loud there. Yeah. And you're in this scene. You're in this scene with your honey in Janeway and myself. I'm here. Tuvac is there. Everybody's in this scene.

Everyone's in this scene. Even Neelix is in this scene. Okay. Everybody's in the scene. I did make a note later. I'll go ahead and jump to it. Seven's not in this scene. Seven's not in the scene.

But this is like a dinner table scene. This is like scenes when I've directed before with 10, 12 people. Yeah, yeah. It takes so long to shoot because every time somebody looks one way or the other, you've got to shoot it from this side. You've got to shoot from that side. Yeah. And I think Terry Wendell shot every angle possible,

except for one. There was one moment where Neelix looked, and he kind of looked in profile like this for his close-up. Yeah. And I was like, oh, they didn't want to put a camera for one line all the way over there. So they just let it play in profile. A little bit of a cheat there. He covered every eye line, every look.

It was a lot of shots in this scene for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is where Janeway is basically explaining to Bala that, you know, they think that her child or our child is the chosen one. And I think Paris even says, I was hoping our daughter would be special, but I never dreamed she turned out to be a Klingon Messiah. And Torres says, that's not funny.

I feel like she should have punched me there just for making a joke out of a serious situation. Because everybody's so serious and there's Tom trying to crack a joke. Yeah, I think if Tom said Klingon Jesus, like my haiku, I think Torres would have laughed at that. But Messiah was not as funny as Klingon Jesus. Yeah, I made a note about Neelix's line when he says, there's women and children down there. We just can't lock them up. It was in a profile. And that was a moment I wish we had seen his eyes.

Well, we talk about security concerns. Neelix says we'll double up on quarters he offers that idea is it's Harry who ask where are they going to sleep because it's true there's more than them more of them than there are of us yeah how are we going to fit all these people and Neelix is like we'll double up on quarters which is setting him up for being his roommate situation yeah which is great Janeway ultimately says you know we've got to make our do our best to make them feel comfortable and end of scene there we go they're going to be our every guest for a while yeah I thought the space fly by next was really good the digital digital flybys are getting better and better. Yeah, that one looked good. We go to the mess hall, and my first note is they have octopus legs in the Delta quadrant for food up front. And by the way, a couple of those props. So we go to the mess hall, all these Klingons are eating up a storm and minglingling around,

and we see octopus legs on the counter there. Yeah. And lots of people believe that octopus are actually. from outer space that they are aliens yes that they are aliens right and so why are we eating why are we like cannibalizing aliens look at you i didn't like it i didn't like the octopus i love it didn't like the octopus bad choice bad choice and what i really didn't like was the sheephead prop did you see that sheep head no right next to the octopus is it panned over i as soon as it paned past the sheep head It was like a smoked, you know, barbecued or spitfire.

Did they have an apple in its mouth kind of a thing? It was gross. And I remember when we shot the scene, it was gross. But I guess that's for Klingons because they're, you know, they love the, er. They love the, you know. Coming down to our restaurant, we serve our food. Okay. It was there.

Neelix welcomes Janeway. he offers some gach to her yes she passes on that neelix is really into this though he's into these guests he likes it and hosting people and uh he he he says the only thing that's wrong is that some starfleet people have been complaining about the smell yeah he says personally i find it very appealing which is interesting that he's so into the the smell, kind of a musky aroma, he says. He wants to bottle it and sell it. Yeah.

When he says that, Kate's face, another amazing Kate's. Another good face from chaos. A fight does break out, though, between two Klingons about food, right? And I love how Kim is trying to settle the situation, kind of calm the situation down. The Nielis tries to, you know, get between the two of them. And I love how he gets into it. He's like, I've been studying Klingon etiquette and you shouldn't quarrel over. food. And then he gets very Klingon. He's like, save your strength for battle to fight those who

would challenge you. So he kind of starts channeling Klingon sort of delivery of lines. And that's when they look at him and just toss him to the side. That's toss. Yeah. They just threw him like a rag doll, which I felt bad for Johnny. I was like, oh, man, he just got tossed like that. Oh, boy. Yeah, he gets tossed. Harry steps in to say, hey, take it easy. Yeah. You know, don't throw him. And then how do you pronounce her name? Chiriga Chiriga grabs Harry

Pins him up and But that's after I rough her I rough her up I throw up against the thing I'm yelling at her I'm being very very firm with her

Yes you manhandle her In the way that Klingons really love They like Yeah so she then grabs me and says that I have a fiery spirit and that I will make a worthy mate And that's not good

Very funny I have ha ha ha ha ha in this moment. Did you laugh at that one? I did. I laughed. It was very funny. Speaking of laughs, we go to Tuvok's quarters and, uh, and, uh, I think Tuvok tries to come

into the door. No, he just walks right in. Oh, that's what it is. He doesn't even ring the bell. He doesn't ring the bell. He walks right into club Tuvok. And in club Tuvok is closed. It's after hours.

He just walks right in. He has the key, evidently. He walks in, puts his feet up on the table. Oh, unbelievable. I love the way he settles and makes himself at home. Yeah. And Tuvok's like, Mr. Neelix, may I ask, what are you doing here? And Neelix informs him, they are bunkmates.

And I loved his delivery of that line. Yes. Amazing bunkmate. Really good. Really good. At the end, when he talks about how, you know, he's learned some Klingon drinking songs, and he starts to sing some of them, do you recall Ethan Phillips every now and then just singing the random verse, like, as a joke

outside of this episode, I feel like he did things like that. He did things like that. The other thing that Ethan Phillips will do is make up fake languages, like, not fake languages. He will speak German, for example, and he doesn't know, he doesn't speak German. But he'll start improvising as if he knows German,

you know, intimately, and we'll start speaking that or French or Swedish or, and so I wondered in this, he starts singing this song. Yeah. I don't think he learned. any actual Klingon. No, he did. He did. I know he did. I swear to God he did. Because these songs have been, these lyrics have been sung before. I swear to you. I think he made up his fake Klingon for this. I think he did just like he does in life, making up fake language.

You're going to get comments on our Delta Flyers face. Everyone's going to say, Robbie, this is not fake. I don't speak Klingon very well, but I'm going to call fake on this one. I think it was just him confidently no faking his way through a language okay let's see I know I've seen these lyrics before

this is like a main this is their main drinking song they've sung this before it's been spoken before but you feel it's fake but let's see what people I'm gonna go with fake okay all right

hilarious scene I always love two Vak and Neelix as the odd couple oh they're there they're there's this scene made me laugh oh they're great

the other thing that made me laugh we go to engineering Paris calls Torres hey dinner's ready and she's like, oh, I'm on my way. She's an hour late. She goes to the door to walk in the hall. Her fans are there.

The Klingons say, it's her, it's her, it's her. And she turns around, her face when she turned back around. Yeah. It was the best. She does that 180, and she's like, oh, my God. Was it as good as a Kate Mulgrew face or bug? Yeah, okay, good. It was on par with Kate.

We love that. All right. The next shot is her beaming into your quarters. to you and your honey's little pad. By the way, I thought it was funny, getting away from her Klingon fans to beam herself from engineering into her quarters. But then I thought,

why don't we always do that? Why do we even walk down hallways? But see, here's the danger of it, though. If she beams herself into the quarters, what if she beamed herself into the coordinates of where you were standing? You see what I'm saying? And now you've got to be safety

Now you've become Tolana for real You see what I'm saying Right Right It's a Tuvix thing It's all like Oh and you guys meld I'm just I don't know

Or you beam yourself in Not knowing You know that you're You know invading a moment That you shouldn't be there Like instead of knocking That's why we don't just

Beem randomly into areas Okay smart smart I take it back Let's not beam ourselves It's only for couples Okay I also love that Paris is making dinner for the scene, although I guess he's just telling the computer to make

dinner, so he didn't really make anything. But it's sweet that he's serving dinner. No. But you're, I mean, you're trying to get her to get into the spirit of this whole thing. You know, you're like, maybe you should talk to them. Give them a chance. Maybe you should, yeah, you know. Give him a chance. Janeway comes in. She says, sorry to bother you guys, but I need your help, Alana. Right. Ten of the Klingons have started a hunger strike. I thought hunger strike first of all I thought I would never go on a hunger strike I love eating food and I would never do that not even for the prophesied child the Messiah I like my pizza too much they're protesting because they want balana to meet with their council of elders that's what they want so the 10 that are starving themselves are not the council I'm sure the council is quite well fed it's some of the more lower you know ranking clingons that have to yeah hunger strike But Bilan is like, I'm not who they think I am. And Shane says, just talk to them, please.

Paris says, I'll go with you. And so we cut to the cargo bay and Torres and Paris enter. And there's the chanting. Okay, can we do this? Okay, here you go. Well, first of all, the first word, Mobar is the name of the character that impersonated Tuvok. Remember that? He had a fake Tupac and a fake J.

His name was Mobar. So I thought immediately when we chanted that, I thought of him. So it goes, Mobar Dolomaj Kvahmach, Mo Bar Dolo Maj Kuma, like that. It sounds almost Tibetan, you know, it's like a monk thing. It sounded like a Tibetan monk thing. Yeah, I like that. And how they did it. It did sound like Buddhist chanting to me.

Yeah, it made me feel comfortable, actually. Paris and tourists come in. They're chanting for a while. It's beautifully shot. This stuff in the, you know, in and around the cargo bay, I thought Terry did a great job. It was, you know, dark and. mysterious and beautifully, like long lenses. It was very, very nicely shot.

He even did a low angle on Balana to make her more heroic in the scenes. But this whole scene is really Tegrath, doubting Kolar. That's what this whole scene is. Back and forth, back and forth. Look, this is not even a full Klingon child. It's half Klingon. Oh, that's the father. It's one quarter of Klingon.

It just keeps getting less and less. He even says the prophecy wouldn't lead us to a mongrel child. Yeah, right. And then Paris goes, hey, hey, take it easy. Right. he says take it easy like you're trying to he's such a hero yeah because you go because he asks like who are you and you say i'm the father that mongrel child and then when he realizes you're the dad teagreth says more human blood and i almost thought of that'd be an awesome t-shirt just more human

blood it's just your image your image on top of there with your with your batleth though with you're saying yes yes yes yes yes more human blood yeah basically coler says uh all the signs are here for the prophecy, and Tehrath is like, you're a liar. Right. This is a false savior. And also in the sacred squirrels, nowhere does it say it has to be 100% going on either. That's the, and that's the truth of the matter. So we go down the corridor, Torres is, she's out.

Oh, yeah, she's upset. Yeah. She's out. And Coler says, Lieutenant, I need your help. Yeah. And Torres is like, I don't want a holy war. And Coler says, that's what I'm trying to prevent. So they go to the briefing room.

Yeah. Horace is like, this is not a savior. This is just my baby. And basically this is a scene where Kolar, we realize that he's twisting for an outcome that he wants. Oh, yeah. No, he's showing us, he's showing us his hand at this point. He's telling us, listen, folks, I, you know, I need to stop this mission that we've been on for over a century now. It's time to get off this darn ship and find a home.

So this is the only way. He's trying to help his people. Trying to help them. Otherwise, we're going to go search in vain. It's already been over 100 years. We haven't found anything. So this is the best that we can do. So please, B'lana, study these scrolls with me.

Let me give you the bullet points. And then you can help me convince them that you are. We can bring out all the things, the, you know, the consistencies with what you've experienced and what the scrolls say. and that'll be the evidence to convince them that, you know, maybe you're not the savior. Maybe this baby is not the savior, but let's convince them anyway. Right. And help me help you.

So we go back to Torres and Paris Quarters. And Torres is reading some of this material. She says the Kuva Mah. Wait, is this the scene where she's holding the Klingon padda-da-da? Yes. I like the shape of the Klingon Padda-D-D-D-D. It was very unique. I like that.

It was nice. But she says, you know, the Kuva Bach must come from a noble house. And she says, I don't come from a noble house. And neither does my husband that I'm aware of. Kolar's like, well, if you search far enough back, we're all from royal houses, basically. So we can fudge it a little bit here. Yeah. So Kolar's looking around Balana's quarters.

And he asks, you know, I don't see any images of Kalis. I don't see your family crest displayed. Right. I love her response. Well, they clash with a carp. it. That was funny. And he asked, don't you want to honor your people's traditions? And she goes, no, not really. Yeah. I got emotional in the scene. And then, yeah, he kind of, he kind of, this is the scene where he sort of turns her a little to her traditions. And he says, there's one tradition that we can honor

together right now. And it's remembering the sacrifice of our ancestors. And he says, if you made a plea for the dead before? And she said, no, not since I was a kid. Right. And so, uh, You know, he said the dead can't rest in Stovacore if the living don't honor their memory. And I agree. This was actually a moving tradition. And so he says, is there someone I can honor on your behalf? Who did you plead for as a child? And Balana says, my grandmother.

And he asks her name. And then he starts his prayer. Remember Calox, the son of Amar. Remember Talij, the daughter of Karen. And Torres is sort of. mouthing the prayer. Yeah, that part about lift them out of the cabin or despair, reveal yourself to this. Yeah, because she knows it.

As a kid, it's like a nursery rhyme almost. She starts mouthing, yeah, along with him. She even has a moment where she goes, oh, right, right, in all your glory. Like, she forgot that part of the prayer. Yeah. But it's a great subtle performance by Roxanne. I thought this was really. I agree.

We go to the sick bay and Harry's skin. Oh, my gosh. I got a lot. Yeah, I've been bitten. He's bleeding. He's been bitten. Yeah. Yes. One of the canons. Yes, she attacked him. And the doctor says, well, did you do something to provoke him? And Harry says, it's not a him. It's a her. And she wasn't provoked. She was aroused.

I love how your voice went four octaves lower. Aroused. Yes. Oh, yes. She was aroused. And the doctor says, well, yes, I've been studying their mating rituals in their database. It doesn't surprise. surprise me. The doctor says you have two options. Kill her or mate with her. And you obviously can't kill her. So he hands Harry a pad, study this. Get ready to mate. And I found this scene awkward. Like for a doctor to be saying, sorry, you're going to have to submit. Okay. It's a little 90s. It's a little 90s, right? So you're saying you're not, you're, you don't give the McNeil stamp of approval to this scene. I do not at all give my stamp of approval to the scene. Imagine if gender or, you know, characters were switched. I agree with you. If this has been a female,

oh, you're going to have to mate with this, you know, you're going to have to submit to this male alien or something. It just, it doesn't even matter, gender. It's anyone should have the autonomy to say no. No means no. Agreed. A thousand percent, but I think the writers were trying for comedy here. They thought, hey, this will be real funny if we say this. funny it is funny that kim can't get away from this cling on woman though yes that part that that part is funny so i wish it was more as she was just obsessed in love with him rather than getting into the whole yeah into you have one choice you either kill her or you mate with her right yeah yeah okay and the doctor was supporting it yeah it was like would he really do that that was my question like would he really

say hey that's all you can do you know have fun no bye we do have a chief engineer's personal log have we ever had this never had one i don't think oh look at that torres first time first time she says in her chief engineer's personal log i have spent the last two days reviewing the sacred scrolls in preparation for my appearance before the clingon council colar also suggested i prepare a few colorful stories to help win them over so she's on board with this plan she's going to go along with colar try to connect her yes experience in the delta quadrant to you know uh the scroll and the signs. Yeah.

And so Balana is now in more Klingon kind of outfit, and she's in the mess hall telling stories. And she's playing her voice in the scene. She's turned more Klingon. Oh, yeah. She's playing it up. She talks about the Herojin. She's telling the story about the Herojin and how she faced 10 of their fiercest hunters.

And Paris turns to Nelix and says, is that I remember? she's exaggerating and neelix says exaggeration is part of the clangon custom she's great so neelix who's studied all this thinks she's right on target she talks about taking down a hunter the herodon hunter hand to hand yeah and colar says oh your ancestors would be honored and then they start banging their cups around all the cling on and one of the funniest things i think i've ever done on this series was when i when they cut to tom and he looks around for a second and he starts banging his cup down that way oh i made myself laugh out loud i that's rare that you laugh at your own little performance like that i did my cup banging for those

listening who haven't seen this episode in a while please just fast forward to the cup banging moment this scene in the mess hall i'm very proud of the cup banging so she continues to tell the story but Tegreth is not sold. Doubting Thomas. He's like, very doubting Thomas. He basically calls her on it. He's like, you're saying all this, but Kohler is the one that's, you're just, you're a puppet. Yeah.

And he insults her. He says, are you a puppet in his bedchamber as well? Yeah. And Paris. And your wife are doing it. Yeah. Yeah. And Paris is not happy.

No. And he goes from funny Paris to, you better watch it, dude. Watch it. That's my wife you're talking about. He said. Which Paris is that? Is that evasive maneuvers, Paris? Or is that another Paris?

Man, this is a... That's lower octave Paris, probably. Don't mess with my lady. Dude. Okay. Yeah. Lower octave for sure. Tugreth continues to insult him.

He ultimately says, I'm going to challenge you to a door, grabs a knife, stabs it in the table to the death. We're going to fight to the death. Can I say, can I just say that line to watch it? That's my wife you're talking about in your normal non-lower octave voice here. It'd be like this. He'd be like, hey, watch it. That's my wife you're talking about.

Yeah, not a C, not as gravitas is when you lower it down. So, yeah. Yeah. All right. That's all I needed. Thank you. But there's a challenge to the death. They're going to fight.

DeGreth says, I'm not honorable. And Bologna's not honorable. Is that what a Klingon challenge is? You grab a knife and you stick it in the table. That means challenge, right? Yes. And if the person pulls it out. Did you stick it back down?

Did you stick it back down after you? said i'm gonna no i just pulled it out you just pulled out like you're on right he says i accept i accept yes again heroic paris yeah standing up for his uh his loved one and i was very happy with uh with that we cut to the ready room and paris says what was i supposed to say um you know uh torres is there janeway's there paris doesn't you know he's like uh what am i going to do i got to stick up for my wife. I gotta, you know, I gotta do something. You have to do something. Yeah. And did you notice they said patac in this episode probably 38 times? Like there is so many people use the Klingon derogatory term for somebody who's a, you know, not to be respected. Not brave. Yeah,

not brave. You patuck you. Two vac escorts in colarn to Greth and to, and Janeway says, you know, Paris had no authority to accept this challenge. There's no death matches on my ship. Tigress says, I told you, this patac was not the true father. Yeah. And Colar says, well, there's precedent for a compromise here, an honorable compromise. A non-lethal battle fought with blunted bat lefts. Blunted bat loves. And Tigretz says, oh, that's for cowards.

And Colar goes, was Emperor Marek a coward? He's the one who instituted the rules to ensure his lawyers would kill their enemies and not each other. You sound like Bob O'Reilly right now. Good job. Yeah. Thank you. But so they do compromise. Yeah, they agree. He agrees. Well, they, they sort of agree. Janeway says, if you agree to these terms, I'll allow the match. She's basically like throwing Paris in, okay, I'm not going to die, but I'm going to be really hurt. Yeah. I'm like, wait a minute, you might want to check with me. I was going to find another way out of this, like where I don't get hurt.

Janeway, are you sure you want to subject Tom Evasive Maneuvers, Paris, our best pilot to possibly be injured and maybe his hand where he controls the ship could be injured? Do you really want that? Okay. Yeah. Anyway, Tuvok thinks I might have a suitable holodeck training program. No, he says, I assume you have a suitable holodeck training program. Yeah, and then Colar says, I'll train him myself. You're going to be trained by Colar.

Yeah. We cut into the corridor. Neelix is walking, I love this scene. Neil's walking down the hall, nods to the crewman, which is always fun when we acknowledge the extras that are there. Yeah.

Well, okay, I just want to say, typically when we have any corridor scene, there's usually two or more players involved in the corridor scene. So to see the camera angle of just him walking down the center of frame is so odd to see, because it's so rare.

I don't even know if that's ever happened. Where one actor has, you know, I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah? Just walking by and himself. But usually it's a conversation. This was,

this was Neelix walking by himself. Yeah. And as he, as he passes another hallway, we hear, Pss, Alex. And you see,

yeah, you see Harry's thinking of a set out of the Jeffries tube. He's hiding in the Jeffries tube. He's hiding in the Jeffries tube. He has been hiding the whole time. He is terrorized and traumatized by that Klingon woman, Cherag, Chreg.

Officer. That's how he said. Regga. That's how he says. Rega. Harry says the Klingon woman that when I got into a scrape with in the mess hall, Neelix, oh, officer, cherega. And Harry says, yes, that's her.

The way that Neelix responds, I haven't seen her today. He has the biggest crush on her. It does. It was so funny. Just all the subtext in just the, I haven't seen her today. It was amazing. It was masterful. It was a master class watching.

Ethan Phillips do this. And I say, well, she's been following me everywhere. And Neelix is like, why? And when I say she wants the mate, and he's like, oh, you're a lucky man. He's so envious. He's like, oh, my God. So funny.

Oh, my God. It's so damn funny. I love it. And then she starts coming down the hall. Harry hears her, he jumps back in the Jeffries to. We're trying to go back in. He's like, you never saw me. Neil says, wait, I got a better idea.

grabs Harry, Neelix does, pushes him up against the wall, slams him against the wall, and basically says, play along. Yeah. I'm going to take her off for your hands. And then he starts yelling at you. When I say you are limited to two servings, that's all you get. Do you understand me? Yeah.

And Harry's so confused. Like, okay, whatever you say. And Neelix continues, I don't think so. If I catch you eating more of your share again, I'll cut out your belly. I'll cut it out of your belly. It's so funny. He's taking the context of him, his job as the cook, the chef, and putting it as an aggressive cling on sort of, you know.

Yes. Let me to make showing off in front of her. Yeah, he showed off in front of Cherega. Definitely. And Harry runs. Neelix calls patak to you. Yeah, he calls me a patac as I'm running. And I do that little, I know it's ADR, but I'm like, excuse me, because I almost

bump into another Klingon as I'm running out but it's so comical this scene. Very funny and then Sherega is mesmerized by Nielix. Well the endings, yes but I love how when I'm gone and it cuts back to Sherega and Nelix, Nelix

growls at her. He's like you hear this audible like coming from Nelix which is like I thought is Cherega doing that? No it was Nelix doing that. Okay so next we go to like a cave setting. It's a holodeck cave setting, like a fight arena for this big fight.

And Neelix is up with the, I think the doctor and Janeway maybe up on the ledge. Yeah. Second floor to look down. The doctor's there. And Neelich says, I didn't think you approved of this kind of competition. Doctor says, I don't, I'm here in official capacity and holds up his medical kit. So, yeah, like I said, I'm going to get very personal. Colar then calls out warriors assemble.

We see Torres handing a bat left to Paris who's in this clangon armor. Now it's so funny because I thought this episode was Neelix going off to a planet when I heard the thing. I was so wrong. You were. But as soon as I knew that I was going to fight, I remembered some photos that I have that I had forgotten about. So I'm going to make a quick pitch. I found a few things from this episode. We're going to put them up on the store,

but I'm going to just show you here's pre-signed. I've only got a few of these left. Who's in the background? Who's in the background behind you? That's Balana back there. Oh, is she holding a bottle of water? She's holding a bottle of water, yeah. She's holding a plastic bottle of water.

This was like, you know, we weren't rolling. And I'm sure they just said. Look at the dramatic lighting in this. Oh, it's great. Yeah, it's really good. It's a really good shot. There's the Klingon. outfit, a nice posed shot.

Yeah. When we weren't rolling. Already signed. Yeah. Already signed. Nice. Then I've only got a few of those. Yeah.

What else? And then I got probably from a rehearsal or something. Oh, look at that. It's an action shot. So DeGreth is actually swinging the batleth at Robbie in this shot. Yeah. You see Jayneway and Nelix and the background. Yeah, that's a great.

I'm going to say right now, I've never seen this shot before. I don't think I've ever sold. it, but I remembered I had some of these because I've always loved these shots. Are you going to sign that one too? Yeah, I can sign those or put them up on the store. What else do you have? I found, I got a couple more things. Oh, here is the challenge moment with a knife.

Oh, yeah, yeah. There it is in the mess hall. Again, never seen that shot before. Yeah, put that one up in the store. The last thing, I did find the script for the, oh, wow. oh that looks cool the way it is on the green screen too it's like yeah it's like coming in now this is my script yeah from prophecy nice this is uh if you saw early season scripts of mine i had notes everywhere i looked for notes i didn't make a single note in this script so it's a

pristine script but it is definitely mine control he doesn't because of the uh i used to when we got pink pages or blue pages yeah things i would fold back the the the the cover of the color that I was replacing, just so I could remember. And so the folds, the folds are still in the pages. So this is definitely my script from when we shot it. So I got some things. This fight just reminded me of that photo and I went digging. And so there's a few special items.

We'll throw them up in the store. If anybody wants them, they're pretty cool. So that would be the delta flyers.org. And then look for the drop-down menu where you can find the shop. And then you can see these items that Robbie has talked about. Yeah. Yeah. Good job.

Liquidate. It's a nice reminder of this episode that I totally didn't remember. I had to start doing what you're doing. Because you were able to sell a lot of your CDs, your music CDs. I have stuff laying around too, but I never really think about. There's stuff that these episodes reminds me of. And I just don't want to forget. Like I know I've got...

Good idea. Like you said, you've never seen those photos. I don't think I've ever taken them anywhere. I just printed them because I thought they were cool. I do want to say that for those of you who are listening, there are limited numbers of what Robbie is putting up. So if you're hoping to get, yeah, just so you know, it's not like, oh, yeah, I'll check the site, you know, maybe in a month or so they're going to be gone. So, you know, good luck. There's like four or five of each.

That's it. And that's the only, only scripts that I don't have all of our scripts, but I have, but you have that one. You know, some and I remembered I had this one. So, all right. Even though I couldn't remember what this episode was about. Yes. But the Klingon fight part brought it all back. Let me ask you, when you had all that crazy Klingon wardrobe with the fur, the armor,

how hot was that? It was so hot. It was so hot, especially doing a fight over and over and over again. And it was really itchy, I remember. Oh, heavy. What part was itchy in the upper or the lower? Maybe of the fur area, like around the neck. I don't know.

I remember it was heavy, thick. You were sweating. I was sweating a lot, yes. Okay. I remembered also, as I rewatch this, I haven't seen this since we made it. Yeah. I remember there was a lot of rehearsal involved in this fight. Yeah.

The choreography, we started rehearsing a week ahead. And if I wasn't filming a scene or something, which I probably, you know, had plenty of time to rehearse. I was in for multiple rehearsals of. With Dan? With Dan? It was Dan. It was Dan was there and Dennis Matalone and the stunt people. Right.

But Dan knows. the Batleth. So he was there. I remember him giving me a lesson in the Batleth and things like that. Yeah. Right. Okay. Now, your lessons were also with the actor that played DeGreth with I don't think so. I think it was just with stunt people. And then on the day, I rehearsed with him. Because he clearly had some coaching from Dan as well, because the way he was twirling the batleth around. And I'll be honest, it only looks good in profile when you do that specific twirl. When the camera was dead on onto Greth looking directly at you, like basically your POV of him fighting you, that twirl that happens doesn't look as impressive dead on. It has to be a profile thing.

Yeah, I also remember when we filmed this, I think it was all handheld, so probably Marvin Rush with a camera on his shoulder filming this. And it was a film camera. It was not the digital cameras we use now. This was a big film camera. I remember having to be really careful swinging that thing around because you might Marvin is standing two feet in front of me like he was right there did you have any mishaps at all where I don't remember any no hit him by mistake he hit you by mistake with the blunt end no no I don't I don't remember ever good no no we were very safe because those are dangerous little things to did you have were those metal or plastic the ones you used it was metal right I think they were metal because we were having a hit really hard yeah yeah I think they were

metal. Okay. Yeah. But it was a great fight. Did you have a stunt double in this one? No. I don't think so. No. And neither did Sherman Howard. He did it. I don't know. I don't, I don't remember. Okay. I would imagine that was him, but it could have been a double because he has so much makeup on, you know. Yeah, you wouldn't even know. Yeah, they might have done some closeups on him and then have the, maybe that's what I did. Maybe I rehearsed with a double. I don't remember rehearsing with him ahead of time. Gotcha. I just remember. It was me and the stunt people practicing. But it's a long fight and ultimately no one takes a wounding or anything, but he just runs out of gas.

He just looks like he's overweight and he's out of shape or whatever. I don't know. He does. Yeah, he runs out of gas. He collapses. The doctor runs down and Kohler says, it's begun. And the doctor says, what? What's begun?

He's dying. He's dying. He's dying. It's the naret. Yeah. It kills all. of us who are not fortunate enough to die in battle we're like wait this is a new twist here here's another twist we have no clue about here yeah yeah we go to sick bay the doctor says that

this is a retrovirus that destroys cells by attacking the cytoplasmic membrane we have so many episodes with viruses don't we i mean yeah we've been recapping them we see it but now they're retrovirus episode here we go yes and the doctor says it's an insidious virus lies dormant and inserts itself as inert genetic material until it inexplicably activates. It's a very smart retrovirus. It comes on without warning. And Janeway is like, why didn't you tell me that you had this disease? And he said, well, we never thought of it as a disease more like old age.

Then Janeway says, is it contagious? And the doctor says only to Clingons. But if you give us some privacy, I want to examine Lieutenant Tor. And they leave, the Janeway and Colar leave Torres and Paris stay. He scans Torres and you can tell by his face that she's got it. And Torres says the baby too. He says, yes, I'm afraid so. This is a deadly virus.

And the first thing I thought of was these Klingons should be social distancing. What the heck? These Klingons came on this ship with this contagious Naret virus. They should have been social distancing, not. very polite of them to come on. Now Torres has got it, the baby's got it. It's very somber news. It is. And then suddenly Tegreth wakes up in the middle of this. You're not in this scene, are you? Yeah, I am. Oh, you are. Did they show your reaction or? Yeah, I put my hand on her. I wish I had done more in the scene, honestly. I wish I had hugged her or played this. I wish we had both played this

a little more ominous. Did you like Roxanne's? Oh, so Roxanne could have went a little further, too, with her reaction. I think both of us. It was really sad news and we just sort of took it stoically and I put my hand on her shoulder and my other hand on her arm, which was a, you know, a gesture, but it's a gesture, but it should have landed even harder. It should have landed harder, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Tegrath wakes up. He's like, why am I here? Well, he realizes he's got the Noret and he wants to go prepare for his journey to Stovacore. Yeah. And the doctor says, you should stay here. He goes, can you fix me? Doctor says, nope, not right now.

And he says, well, don't deny me my tradition. So he's facing his death like a true Klingon. And the doctor does not have a fix for this. Or, yeah, he can't. An antidote of anything. Not good news for Bologna or our baby. No. Very sad.

We go back into the cargo bay. The Klingons are sitting around chanting. The council is sitting around humming or chanting or something. Again, I love the. the look of this set when it's dark. Tegreth says, you know, this is not the Kovamakh. His child is not Kuvamach. And Marak says, but the father accepted your challenge, and he defeated you.

Yeah. But Tegreth still is not convinced. Yeah, he's like, I was defeated by the Naret, not Tom, evasive maneuvers, Paris. Exactly. And he tells them, Bologna Torres and her child have the Naret as well. And Morocco is like, no, it's impossible. Yeah. And he says, nope, they both have it now.

She told me herself. And so the Kovamach is younger than old age. You know, the scrolls say that Kovamach is younger than old age and stronger than sickness. So this cannot be our savior. Yeah. And Tegreth has rallied them to say, we have to act for the good of our people, act, take care of ourselves. They decide they're going to seize Voyager. He's planning mutiny.

Bum, bum, bum, yes, very scary. Very. We go to the astrometrics lab, and I thought this planet shot was a beautiful planet. Yeah. It looked like Earth, this planet, where they're going to settle these Klingon colonies. Seven suggests the southern hemisphere. Tegreth is playing along. Like, he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, sounds good.

Yeah. Yes. Colar, you're so right. I shouldn't have doubted you. I shouldn't have been doubting Thomas. you're right. This is the savior of our people. Yeah. So Colar says we'll transport down there

in an hour and in one hour and we go to the transporter room. They're transporting some barrels or something down there. Yeah. Sort of supplies, I guess. And Morocco is sort of fishing with Harry about the

transporters. Yeah. And Harry naively seems to Yeah. What did you think of the scene? This is what I thought. I thought Harry should have been so busy with other work that this was sort of like a fly. Like, okay, yeah, that's the way it, you know, where I kind of sort of give away information because I'm just trying to shut this curious kid up, you know, that's next to me to sort of like, because Harry would have seen through this.

Like, he would have been like, why are you so curious about the workings of our transporter, you know, system? When you're leaving in a minute. You're leaving. You're never going to use this. So it just didn't play. it didn't land right for me because I Harry should have been more suspicious you think more suspicious yes and also maybe

make him a little bit more busy where he's not maybe on top of his game like he's trying to deal with some other stuff and then he lets out a little bit of the cat out of the bag that's all you know okay okay it could have been refined a little bit better all right basically Harry tells him how these transporter

controls work we go to sick bay the doctor has called Balana in that that you know he wanted to talk to her and Palana says, well, is she sick? And he goes, no, but I may be on to something. So we've got some hope here. Yeah. But it's a quick scene. We don't really learn much. We go out to the corridor. And Chikote says they're leading a team going site to site, going to site A. Kolar will be in charge of site B. So they're making these plans. They come into the transporter room

and Harry's still there. Good morning, commander, says Harry. Chicoatay, Harry, then suddenly the fight breaks out. He, well, he gets broadsided from behind, right? He gets knocked back. Yeah, knocked out. Harry gets thumped from the side there and then phasered. And I love your ping pong fall. I love the bounce off the wall.

No, but when I went forward, it looks like I was diving into a swimming pool. Like I was about to be in the Olympics, you know, competing. It was a very dramatic fall. It was very dramatic. But I liked it. It was always as dramatic as when season one when you did the jazz hands fall. Yeah, jazz hands fall. With the crayon people, yes.

Yeah, that was a good fall too. Yeah. We go to the bridge. Tuvok detects this phaser fire. They leave. Tuvok and a team leave. We go back to the transporter room. We've got the Starfleet bodies, Chakote and Harry and Kohlar,

is arranged on this pad, and then they transport them. So I guess you're transported off the ship. You're down on this planet. I know. I totally remember the whole scene with Moroc, and he's asking, you know, hey, what's this? But I don't remember them placing us on the transporter pad to beam us down. I don't remember filming that.

That was like, oh, you just got beamed out. You're out. I'm out. They want to lock on to the bridge officers, but there's a force field around deck one. So they just start transporting the rest of the crew. We go back to the bridge. Paris picks up multiple transports.

Janeway tries to cut the power, but Paris can't do it. Janeway calls engineering to Boulana, no response. And Paris says nobody's in there. No one's in engineering. They've been beamed out. I wish that I had been a little more upset. Like, you know, what Paris doesn't know is she was in sick bay with a doctor. but he should he would assume that if no one's there he should have been a little more upset there yeah

yeah we're back in the transporter room they're still trying to get a lock on the bridge and tigreth says we'll just transport us there yeah if you can't get them get a lock on them then transport us there two vok steps outside the transporter room he overrised security and just as he steps in they're beaming themselves to the bridge we cut to the bridge he does shoot moroc right moroc falls down So he's doing the beaming. Yeah, he hits him. But Tegreth and company have already beamed into the bridge where a massive phaser battle begins between the Klingons and you got a lot of action in here.

You got to shoot and spin around and fall down and make noises. You did all kinds of things here. I remember doing this. I remember that they set those spark hits really close to me. Right by your face is what they did. Yeah. How dare they. On my console, right on the floor.

I also remember they strapped a phaser under the console that I grab. Okay. I was like, you normally have a phaser stored there? It's just kind of like, I thought that's convenient. It was convenient. Too convenient.

Agreed. Agreed. I remember them sticking there. I remember Johnny Nestowitz, our prop guy going, hey, where do you want it? You got to choose where he can put it.

I remember, I had to choose where it was for convenient. because they wanted me facing the spark that was. So I was pulling the thing as the sparks going on in my face. You know, when they did that, usually we would kind of be sideways and turn to avoid any peripheral, you know, sparks. But I had to look right at it. You're lucky you didn't get your eye injury or something.

So, hey. When I saw this scene, I was like, those sparks, I remember, they were way too close. Yeah, like you would never put an actor in that type of danger now. No, right? Like, you would be in trouble. You'd get sued, I think. at this day and age. Absolutely.

And I just think it would have been funnier if you just pulled that phaser just like you reached down and you're just just pulled it out from your shirt or something. I don't know. That would have made more sense. Yeah. But ultimately Tom is a gunslinger.

He takes Tegreth out and everybody a bunch of them out. And Tegreth wants him to finish him off, grant me a warrior's death. Family was like, no way, Jose. No mercy killings on my. Lime bridge, yeah. Yes. And you end that scene with, yes, ma'am.

I do. Yeah, classic. Classic gunslinger line. It is. Sick Bay. EMH is waking up to Greth. He's like, why am I not dead? And the doctor says, you're healthy.

You're healthy. What about the Nerat? Yeah. Gone. And Colar explains, we have Bologna's child, the thing for that. Yeah. There were stem cells and the Klingon and human beings. DNA allowed him to synthesize an antivirus.

So the child cured him. The child did cure him. The doctor, though, says, well, I was the one who actually devised the treatment. Doctor. Oh, my God. Bob is so funny. Yes, of course. The child cured you.

Yes. Very funny. By the way, we get a flyby coming up. I think it's the best flyby of the series. What? The digital. The ship going under the camera with a plane. with a planet in the background.

Yes, yes. With the star or the sun, whatever, that moon in the background as well. I mean, that was, yeah. It was good. I mean, I know that nowadays with digital technology, there's, you know, space stuff looks amazing. Right.

But back then, I'm sorry, in 2001, that was a really good shot. I mean, it was a really good shot. Yeah, I agree. Yes. Yes. We have a captain's log. The captain says we help the Clingons into their new home.

and things are returning to normal. Tuvok tries to go back to his quarters. The door went open. I forgot about this scene. Access the quarters. And the computer says, nope, been restricted. Tuvok's like on whose authority? Computer says, Neelix.

Tuvok says, Mr. Neelix, open this door. We hear Neelix. Oh, I'll be there in a minute, Commander. And then you hear him say, that's my boot. So we know, we know, uh, sherega. what's the thing in college they always say if your roommate's like a hang a sock on the door right but it's a door that slides open so you yeah nowhere to hang the sock you can stick it on there use some type of adhesive and just stick it right now neelix and sheregas have a lovely goodbye where

they growl at each other and she leaves he calls her what he calls her a cling on name he says goodbye my little parmachai or whatever the heck he says very very funny oh my god then they go in And Tuvok's got, two, two,x places are a wreck, by the way. Did you love Ethan Phillips when she walks away, they growl, she walks away. And he looks back, he looks at her longingly as she walks down the corridor. And he goes, I'm really going to miss. The way he said, I'm really going to miss her was so good. He was so subtle, but it was hilarious.

It was the best. He's very funny. Yeah. Yeah, inside the corridors are a wreck and Neelix picks up a couple things and puts a, like, a pathetic flower back in the vase. Dead flour and hands it to him. Actually, the flower was still standing pretty upright. It would have been funny if it was broken. Like, you know, to say hands on the broken stem flower. That would have been funny. We go to the transporter room. Torres is given a bathe from Colar. And he says, this is for your daughter. And I hope you'll tell her about us someday.

And Torres says she will. Yeah. And they say goodbye. Well, he says, Capela. He uses the Klingon, you know, yeah yeah and she responds in kiplas so she's kind of you know has a bit of character development where she's more into her klingon culture and background yeah so i like that's nice in the quarters she's hanging the batlet up uh over their dresser or something on the wall she's hanging it and even tom says it doesn't seem right just to hang it on the wall and she goes well i'm not going to let you scratch it up in the holodeck so it's it's very sweet it is yeah they basically talk about maybe, you know, what they'll name her. And Tom says, maybe we should name her.

Kuva maha, just to be safe. And Torres says, we'll put it on the life. Coup for short. The only thing I wish that we had kissed at the end of the scene, I wish that Tom and Balana had killed. It felt like they kind of say the sweet thing. And then they'd just go back to work. And I wish they'd had a little more tender connected.

I wish you would have bit her on her cheek. Yeah, that would have been. like that um what was that batleth made of that was a stone batleth wasn't it or some type of gemstone or some it wasn't metal it was like a darker color i thought maybe it would we had some wood bat bat bat list that you know no no no oh but i i i think they were trying to make it look like it was an ancient batlet that was not made of metal you know what i'm saying like it was chiseled from some type of hard black rock or something like yeah exactly that's what i that's what i thought So since you were on set, I'm wondering if you remember the actual prop itself.

Okay. I don't remember that one. That's all right. Well, there you go. There is prophecy. What is your lesson? Your overall lesson. What are you going to say for this?

My lesson, this was a tough one for me to figure out a lesson. But I think the lesson for me was that prophecies can be interpreted however you want. Like a lot of times when there are these, you know, Notre Damasus or Nostradamus or whatever who has these prophecies that people think are, you know, so real. and they often will interpret. I remember like Y2K, you know, remember like when the millennium hit and everybody was panicked that the world was going to end, Nostradamus, like you can predict whatever you want. You can interpret whatever you want.

Okay. And it's not always true. So I think, you know, there was a lot of interpretation of this baby and they just wanted, Kolar wanted a story to make sense for him. And so he just tried to fit everything into that story. That was my lesson. Yeah. What about you?

Mine is more based on that one scene where I got emotional, and it's really about learning to accept yourself, learning to accept your uniqueness as being your strength and not your weakness. That's great. Yeah. Love it. Okay. Your rating. My rating.

So as I said earlier, this episode was slow for me. Okay. It was a bit slow. A bit plotting. Yeah. And so I'm going to give this a 7.5. Wow. That's higher than I thought you would give it.

Yeah, 7.5. I think it's just because I love that we brought Klingons back into our show. It was a fun diversion. It was a good story with Bologna, and I love Neelix's performance. So I give it a 75 based on some of that stuff. But in terms of just watching an overall feeling, 7.5 is probably a little generous,

but I'm going to stick with it. That's very generous of you. And yeah, for me, I also love the fact that they had old school Klingon in here. In fact, my haiku, the first five-syllable line, was going to be Klingons, Klingons, yay. But then I was like, nah, you know, I'm not going to go there. So I'm going to go 7.5 as well. I'm going to join you identical. Yes. Interesting. Okay. Well, let's see. Our captain and admiral average ratings for prophecy are 7.6. What? Look at that. We are, we are the board. We are of like mind. we just have a delta flyers collective right now this is our collective yeah wow that's great

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