The Delta Flyers - Relativity

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Relativity. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.Relativity:Capt Braxton, of the 29th-century Federation Timeship Relativity, contacts Seven of Nine to go back in time and discover who destroyed Janeway's ship.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, Kate Mulgrew, Brannon Braga, & Bryan FullerAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co-Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Kelton Rochelle, Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Daniel de Rooy, Chris Knapp, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Elaine Ferguson, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, James Zugg, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Kelly Brown, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, William McEvoy, Sarah Thompson, Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Ashley Stokey, Lori Tharpe, Mary Burch, Nicholaus Russell, Dominique Weidle, Lisa Robinson, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlmann, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Barbara S., Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Marcus Vanderzonbrouwer, Shambhavi Kadam, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Megan Chowning, Tae Phoenix, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Bronwen Duffield, Brandon May, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Jeremy Mcgraw, Jason Bonnett, Ian Ramsey, Jack Fine, & Susan V. GrunerAnd our Producers:Jim Guckin, James Amey, Eleanor Lamb, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Ann Marie Segal, Chloe E, Craig Sweaton, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Matthew Cutler, Maxine Soloway, Joshua L Phillips, Barbara Beck, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Scott Lakes, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Tara Polen, Jenna Appleton, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Andrei Dunca, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Amy Tudor, Jamason Isenburg, Mark G Hamilton, Liza Albright, Rob Johnson, Kevin Selman, Maria Rosell, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Jennifer Jelf, Justin Weir, Mike Chow, John Mann, Holly Schmitt, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Megan Moore, Melissa A. Nathan, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, David J Manske, Roxane Ray, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Cindy Holland, Craig M. Nakashian, Julie McCain, Will Forg, Max Wilson, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Carmen Puente-Garza, Russell Nemhauser, Chris Casiano, Lawrence Green, & Jordan Marie BenkoThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at [e-mail].”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hey, everyone, welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager. Your two hosts along this journey are my fellow Trek actor, who also portrayed the role of Sam in the 1993 TV movie Spies, Mr. Robert Duncan McNeil, and myself, your favorite, Eternal Ensign, Garrett Wong, remember you can get the full version of this podcast by signing up to become a patron at patreon.com forward slash the Delta Flyers. Does that bring back memories there, buddy? Sam, are you a Coast Guard dude, Sam? I was a Coast Guard, yeah, it was a young Coast Guard. Here's what I remember about that spot.

Yeah, it was a Disney Channel before there was like all the Disney XD and all the. Yes, yes. There was only one Disney Channel. Disney Channel and they they tried to have like for little kids programming in the morning and then a little older and then in the evening and on the weekends they had family stuff like family family movies yeah yeah yeah like the old you know wonderful world of Disney movies yes so this was a Disney Channel movie about World War II era and there were German U-boats off the coast of Long Island and I was a Coast Guard guy and I had a crush on his

older sister, I think, or something like that. I don't really remember the plot. Here's the things. Here's the highlights of spies, the Disney Channel film. Cloris Leachman was in it. Oh, wow. Nice. I remember being so excited to work with Clorce Leachman.

But then I realized I'm stuck in a van driving to location with her for an hour and change each day. And she talks and she had so many opinions. And I was like, oh, my God, I love you. but like no more for an hour and a half every day each way in the van but she was awesome a legend and my other two things i remember is we shot it in wilmington north carolina and it was the very first time uh that i had worked in wilmington i ended up working a couple other things there but wilmington was a little film town for a while for a couple of a decade or two

they had a lot of filming they had a studio and i'm from north carolina Carolina. So when I went to do this, the very first time I filmed, my grandparents came, my dad came, my sister, little sister. Like, it was, it was a big deal for you. It was a big deal because I was like, oh my God, I'm doing my job and I can see family and they can come see me do it. And it was amazing. That is so cool. So what do you think happened with that decade long dynasty, or not a dynasty, but for a decade, Wilmington was putting out, a lot. I would say for 20, about 20 years. Okay. So they had the state of North Carolina had some big tax incentives and very cheap labor force. So if you wanted to make a TV

movie of the week, you could use a non-union crew and your locations were cheap. Everything about it was cheap. And they had tax incentives. And they had this little town, historic town of Wilmington, which you could play for anything. You could almost play it for New York City if you want it. Or you could play it for a small town. You had the water. You had some suburbs. It was a great.

I did spies there. I did One Tree Hill for a couple of years that I directed on it. I did Dawson's Creek for a couple of years. I directed. It was a great little town. I loved it. So why did they lose that prominence of being that one, you know, awesome place to go film at?

Did they get undercut by Georgia? Georgia passed some really competitive. even better than North Carolina bigger and they had more to offer because they had Atlanta as a big city they had Savannah as a historic city all kinds of mountains everything and North Carolina was just like we're not going to get into a tax incentive race to spend money with Georgia we're just not going to that's not our business we don't want to do it so they got rid of them and I feel like one tree hill was one of the last things that ended up as part of that dynasty and now there's occasions filming there. They still have the studios in Wilmington. I don't know how often they get used, but so the Bulldogs knocked off the tar heels. Yes, they did. So sad. So sad. But you were there during the heyday. It was great. As Sam, the Coast Guard guy. Look at this. I just realized I'm drinking my coffee for this meeting. I can see out of one of our, uh, this is our current Delta Flyers merch mug. Yeah. I beat the board with it. There's Janeway. I love it. Yeah. With the board

cube and her cup of coffee and yeah i love that mug it's a great mug i just realized i looked down and i'm like oh i've got you're actually using it i am wearing your tom paris plate shirt tom paris plate shirt on i got my delta flyers hat on oh my god amazing delta flyers mug that everyone should drink their morning coffee with jane yeah i i do want you to watch the other episodes of lower decks i know you've seen we'll always have tom paris you You've seen that episode, but you really need to. You need to watch the other apps, man. They're really good.

I know. They are really good, okay? But I love that you have all the merch on. It's wonderful. And also, I want to watch you as Sam, the Coast Card guy. I want to see, do you have a copy of this? Your dad has to have a copy of it. I bet my dad and his collection of VHS is somewhere.

I'd have to go look. Yeah, it's on VHS. It has to be. You told me that he recorded everything that you were on practically, right? so well it's a Disney if I wonder if on Disney plus oh I'm going to have to take a look maybe it's got to be in their library somewhere ooh that would be interesting I'm going to go look I can't see yeah okay well speaking of of looking at stuff we need to look at this episode let's look at it all right yeah so this week's episode is relativity and Robbie and I will

be right back after we watch relativity after it's been it's been a while since we've seen it So we're going to watch. Yep, we'll be right back with our review, recap, discussion of relativity. And for all of our Patreon patrons, please stay tuned for your bonus material. Okay, dokey. We are back from watching relativity. Yes, we are. And it was not about a relative city.

I thought it was, I was wrong. You were wrong. That's okay. It happens. Yeah. I try. I try to remember. I do the best that I can. You did. We're always referring to our a little discussion in the bonus material section about about what he thought the synopsis was. So it was quite funny. For those of you who haven't subscribed yet, it's a good thing. Check out the

full, full episode through patreon.com. Yeah, I was wrong. I was wrong. That's all right, buddy. That's okay. Okay, let's start off with our poetry synopsis. And here we go. Here we go. Here we go with my haiku for Relativity. Temporal weapon. Deck 4, Section 39. Sevens save the day. Plural seven. Nice. Sevens. Because it was seven of nine to seven of nine. Yeah. Okay. All right. Here we go with our limerick then. Limerick. Limerick me. I'm going to limerick all over you. Here we go. Oh, I can't wait. All right. Our Limerick for relativity goes a little something. Something like this, a time travel episode. Here we go again. Uh, someone is trying to destroy Voyager like a thug. Seven of nine to seven of nine. Turns out Braxton is a swine.

They fixed it, but my brain hurts and I need a hug. Wow. You took, you know, you took some artistic license there by using the word ugg which is probably debatable whether or not that exists in the dictionary it's an expression okay all right i'll let you slide on that one okay yes all righty very good can you give us the breakdown on guest stars right now yeah the actors it was a wonderful group of actors first of all braxton our time traveling captain man uh bruce McGill is his name. He was on our show before. No, he's recast. What? Yes. He wasn't the Braxton back then. He's not the original Braxton, which is, which is really, I was, because when I saw him, I'm like, wait a minute, that's not the guy from Futures End part one and two. And then I went back and

looked, Futures in part one and two, Braxton is portrayed by actor Alan G. Royal. Bruce McGill replaced him in this one. I just looked that up. Yeah. So that's something that really kind of, I don't recall what the drop, if there was any drama or it was, it could have easily been Alan Royal's agent called up and said,

I'm sorry, Alan's already preoccupied on filming, you know, this film in Czechoslovakia. He can't have been a scheduling. Scheduling conference. Oh, that's so funny because I just went with it. When I saw Bruce McGill,

I was like, oh yeah, Bruce McGill. I remember him. Bruce McGill is in every, freaking i mean he's been in so many over and over movies okay he's from san antonio texas okay his very first job that i could find was a uh independent film called citizens band this was a movie from 1977 if you remember cb radios remember cb yes yes yes yes radios were 10 for good buddy yeah and four good buddy yeah yeah that was all

very popular in popular culture cb radios were everywhere and so this was a movie about a community of people who only knew each other through cb radios oh my good so his character was named blood there were other characters like electric and snake and that was their handle yeah on cb radio so it sounds like a really corny but it was kind of like before it was the internet before the internet Like it was people who could sort of get on their CB radio. They didn't have to see people face to face. They could create whatever persona that they wanted on their CB radio. And I don't know the movie, but I would imagine it probably was an exploration of that idea

before you had the internet. And that was 19, you said, 1977. He was born in 1950. So he was 27 years old when he first portrayed that character about CB radio. He goes. Blood. Bruce McGill, Citizens Band, his first movie. He's also probably most known for Animal House, where he played Daniel Simpson Day. That's right. A year after, he was in Animal House. So, with among other legends and. Yeah. Yeah. Dakin Matthews plays Patterson, Admiral Patterson, Janeway's teacher. His first job was Remington Steel back in 1985. Oh, my goodness. Remington Steel. The old Remington Steel TV show.

Goodness. Next one I've got here is Jay Carnes, who played Duquesne. I have to say, I did a play with Jay. I forgot he was on our show. Oh, my goodness. I did an amazing production of Romeo and Juliet. Jay played Mercutio. He actually took over for an actor who was fired.

Oh. But Jay took over late in the rehearsal process for Mercutio and did a phenomenal job. Who does he look like to you? I don't know. What does he look like to you? The Lost Carradine, brother. Oh, he looks like Robert Caradine from Lewis Skullnick from Revenge of the Nerds. He does.

He does. This is his, this is his doppelganger almost. He does. He does. Okay. Jay's first job was in 1990. He had done some theater, going to school for theater, right around the time that I met him doing a play in 91. Yeah.

It was on a soap opera called Generation. It was a very short-lived soap back in those days, about three years it ran. It was basically Generations was about kind of followed a Caucasian family and an African-American family. Oh. Kind of the stories about how they dealt with the world. So it was an interesting concept. Last actor we've got here is Josh Clark, who plays Lieutenant Kerry. Good old Carrie.

What was his first job? I want to know that. I don't know that. The first thing that I could find. Yeah. Was 1976. Oh, one year before Bruce McGill's first role. Yeah.

Okay. That's a long time ago. A long time ago. He must have been very young. But anyway, he did a TV movie called The Other Side of Victory, which starred Mark Margolis and David Norton. Wow. David Notton was known for his Dr. Pepper commercials

and also an American World of London. Oh, that David Norton. Yes. David Norton. And Mark Margolis is mostly known for, I think, Pet Detective he was in the Pet Detective movies and also all of the

Darren Aronofsky films like Black Swan and Pie and anyway, kind of an art house. Regarding David Notton, you just connected two dots from me. I had no idea that the guy from American Werewolf in London is the same one that's saying

I'm a pepper, you're a pepper wouldn't you like to be a pepper? That's David Notton. That's him. Yep. I can see him right now. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Anyway, that's our guest stars. It was directed by Alan Eastman.

We were wrong. It was not Terry Wendell. It wasn't Alan. It was not Alan Craker or Terry Windell or Les Landau. It was Alan Eastman. I think he did two episodes and this was his second one. I had to look him up. I actually Googled him just to see his face.

And I do remember his face. I do remember his face now. And interesting enough, this Alan, like the other Alan, Alan Craker. They're both Canadian. They both hail from the Great White North. So there is another factoid. The story by Nick Sagan, teleplay by Brian Fuller, Nick Sagan, and Michael Taylor. So we were way off on writers and directors. That's right. That's okay. But a very clever story. Very much so. Yeah. So there we go. There's our line up. Thank you for sharing that. Let's start this episode off with.

that our opening shot of an amazing utopia planisha is what it's called, which is the dry dock area. This is where Starfleet essentially builds starships. And it's located on Mars. At some point, it gets destroyed. But, you know, at this point in time, for this episode, it's a very bustling and a very cool opening shot because we're kind of out there in space, the camera sort of float. floating around and seeing all these ships being worked on,

these Starfleet ships. Yeah. And eventually it sort of reveals Delta, the Delta, you were going to say the Delta wire. I was. Okay. The Voyager. The Voyager.

In Dry Dock, it reveals it. And it's a very cool opening shot, great visual effects. Yeah. And then we go inside and Janeway, yeah, she beams up aboard into a hallway there. And she's greeted by Admiral Patterson. Yeah. who basically says, you're late, and dives right into a pop quiz, which I thought was very funny because he's sort of, he's like, you're late.

Wait, did she beam into the hallway? No, I'm mixing up. There were a lot of being. They're actually in the transporter room. There's a transporter room. So before you go to that, let me finish saying, when you said the Voyager. Well, I just want to bring up, this is a little sidebar here that the most,

one of the more recent episodes of Strange New Worlds, That's with Anson Mountas, Captain Pike. He actually is in the transporter room and he greets the guest and he does not say, welcome to the enterprise. He says, welcome to enterprise. He says without the the. Really? Yes. That seems strange to me.

No, but I like it that way because I would have to say, welcome to Voyager instead of welcome to the Voyager. I've always been a no, don't put the the guy. No, the guy. know the guy. I know you're a the guy. And that's why we work well together. Okay. Yeah. I mean, if you have a boat named Floody McFloater face, that's your boat name. And you invite somebody, hey, come meet me on the boat. We're going to go water ski and hang out on the boat. You get on. You would say, welcome to the floaty McFloat face. You would say that. You wouldn't say, welcome to Floody McFloat. Like, I like welcome to Floaty McFloat face. I'm okay with that. Welcome to the

this is the boat if you if i say welcome to voyager then it's like i'm giving a welcome to someone named voyager welcome to welcome to harry welcome to janeway and welcome to voyager i'm giving welcomes to you you know i hear you where it's like welcome to the now you are welcome to the place called voyager you know it's a valid argument i'm fine with what you're saying but i'm going to tomato tomato. Some people say tomato. Some people say tomato. And I like it without the the tomato. Yes, I don't think you need the article. But okay. I mean, you like the the and I'm like, eh, we can do without. Okay. All right, we digress. We digress. So what we do, but I, but I, my big takeaway from this is if I get a boat, I'm naming it floody. Floody McFloat. Oh,

Floody McFloat face. Face, yes. I think there was a boaty McBoat face contest. I'm stealing it and just calling it floaty okay we definitely digress we digressed a lot okay let's go let's go back into it so they are in the transporter room and janeway with old janeway hairdo beams in yes this is our first indication just got a bun yeah there it's back again and it's like immediately you're thinking what is happening here but she is being basically greeted by her old teacher admiral patter He's there with a little pop quiz for her and ask her a few, you know, questions, science questions. And she says them, I wrote it down. So she comes in late and he's like, he's like, all right, pop quiz.

He doesn't actually say that. But he goes, she comes in late. And he goes, you're late. Silence, awkward silence. He goes, what is the threshold of the H2 molecule? She goes, 14.7 electron volts. He goes, third brightest star in Orion. She goes, viewed from where?

He goes, hmm, earth. She goes, Gamma Orionis or Belatrix, if you prefer the original Arabic name. Bam! That's how they do it. It's like immediately back into, I'm the teacher. It was like, what is happening? But I like the attitude they have. I do like the attitude.

And I'm glad that you were able to, you know, show a. little bit of, you were able to science a bit just now, a little sauce. But at the same time, you're in your delivery, came off a little bit sensual a bit. It was like a little hostile, angry, it was like they were going to have angry sex. They were going to have angry sex, I think. She's going to have angry sex with her old, whatever kind of teacher. What was he? He was the, he was her calculus teacher, physics, something. I don't know, some science teacher. some type of science field they get all excited about science

okay but yes she's got a bun and by the way Richard Stursted is standing there right behind right behind the admiral sorry right behind the admiral Richard Starshet who was Robert Beltron's stand in on the show we love Richard he's awesome always there such a good guy and I just bring it up because he continues

with them on the whole tour he's like Mr. No. 2 to the admiral, which I thought, good for you, Richard. Oh, yes. He's like the admiral's attache. He's the attache in the whole run. Every time we see the admiral, there's Richard. Okay, so finally after the quiz, they hug it out, which I thought was very sweet. Because it was like, what is happening at first with these questions, science question, this pop quiz. But they hug it out and you realize that she's come on board on board Voyager for the very first time.

Yeah, he's getting, she's getting a tour. He's getting her first tour, very first one. So they walk down a hall. She's looking around the ship. It's a great little hallway walk. People are working on panels everywhere. They end up at the turbo lift and they get inside. She knows every detail of the ship.

She says she's been studying it for over three months now. Yeah. So this is basically a scene before the pilot. You know, you start to orient ourselves and we're like, oh, this is before the pilot. They reach the bridge. Yeah. And she does, she starts to talk about how it's, much bigger than she expected.

And I thought that was interesting. Like a TARDIS. Yeah. She sits down in her chair for the very first time. And there's a nice moment there. Yeah. And then she's, then the admiral says, well, if you like this, come on and I'll show you something even more exciting. And they go into the ready room.

She walks in for a second. The first thing she does is order a coffee, black coffee. from the replicator from the replicator which i thought was great that was good she then asked about tuvok the admiral talks about well you know he's still undercover he hasn't really he's on chikote's ship and you know we don't want to bring him out too soon don't want to yeah i want to keep him under cover a little longer jemway then talks about the difficulty of catching chokote in his ship in the bad lands it's just really difficult to maneuver amongst all the anomalies and then and the power surges and whatever is going on in the bad lands

that cause ships to sort of like lose control. So at this point, she suggests Tom Paris and his marvelous piloting skills. She goes off about Tom for a little while. Waxes poetic about Tom. He's the guy. Yeah, Patterson is a little skeptical. He's like, really?

Admiral Paris's son? I don't think that's a good choice. He's not really happy about that. But he listens to Janeway. and he says, well, okay, I'll look into it. Now, take a look into that. She says at the end of the scene, something like, you know, everybody,

she steps up close to the admiral. She has this meaningful look, and she's like, everybody deserves a second chance. That's right. And they have this long pause, and I was like, that's an interesting, it felt like there was more to the story there,

and he was in on it or something. I don't know. I thought that was going to go somewhere, and it didn't really, that moment didn't. Or if she had a really cryptic ending line, saying, I've had my eye on young Mr. Paris for a while now.

Something like that. Something like that would have been nice. Yeah, would have been very suggestive. You don't know what's really going on there. Maybe. Yeah. Okay. All right.

Then we move to the bridge. Again, they go back over to Paris's future station, the con down at the front. With some kind of panel or something else that I was like, what the heck is that? I've never seen that part of the, of the con down there. station, never. Yeah, there's some type of, you know, some type of wiring going on or whatever it may be, some type of diagnostic. It's being run by a crew person who then turns around into camera, and we see it is

seven of nine in a medical or science colored uniform, and it is seven. And I remember very clearly in the script, she was supposed to be wearing operation slash security gold that was her uniform yes that was her uniform oh that's right and she didn't like a color no she didn't she says i do not want to wear this color and they you know they listen to her request and boom she's wearing green now and you know to for me i felt a little oh she didn't like your color my feelings were her i was just like really you didn't go with the gold team gold and uh but you know that's her choice and she but you've talked about this like she felt like it didn't flatter her skin or washed her out or something like that. Yeah, because she saw it on me. I don't think you should

have gold if you're Asian. You know, I mean, it's just the worst color for an Asian. The better color for an Asian is going to be green or red. So on me, on a day-to-day basis, I think she probably said, oh, it's, it's not very complimentary. Yeah. But I bet she was thrilled to be out of that body suit. Oh, my gosh. She must have been, yeah. And she didn't have to have any of the implants on her face, too. So she just didn't have any prosthetic. Oh, my gosh. She probably felt that was the easiest day of hair and makeup she's ever had. So she's ecstatic, clearly. And she's not wearing the tight suit, as well as all the stuff that went underneath that. Exactly. Yep. But she looks good. She looks good in medical science. She looks younger to me. Something about, it was like less makeup,

maybe, or the hair was a little looser or something. You're right. She does look more youthful. Yeah. That's a good call. That's a really good call. She exits the bridge after that reveal, which was a great shot, by the way. Yes. We come back from commercial. There's a bit of a time jump. And we see the exit again from a different angle. And she walks directly into the briefing room. And then all of a sudden, she contacts somebody. And you can hear her say, the bridge is clear. There's no sign of the weapon. So now we know a mystery is a foot. Something is going on. We don't know who she's talking to. And at this point, she's, you know, there's a little bit of an interruption because Janeway and Patterson entered the briefing room and catch seven a bit doing her thing. and Janeway talks about how she doesn't really, you know, she doesn't really like the layout of the room so much. She feels like it's not as conducive to meetings. It's not very comfortable. She says something about it.

It's not designed very comfortably or something. That's right. And then she asked Seven. She's like, Ensign, what do you think? Yeah, what's your opinion? What's your opinion? Seven's like, it's an efficient design.

And Janeway says, oh, well, I guess I was wrong. And she basically, like, okay, that ends and says it's efficient. I'm good enough for me. I'm wrong. You know, I almost wanted. It's not comfortable in there. That was a horrible room to shoot in. Okay.

But when she said, you know how Seven speaks, very non-human-like, right? Yes. It's an efficient design. I almost wanted Janeway to sort of like take a like a double take and like, why is this human speaking in this manner, you know, like just for a split second, just to see a little like something's a little okay and then go on but you know it didn't happen it's okay but we know that it's seven that's interesting because I know some people as as you were talking about that like should Janeway have been aware of her speech pattern being awkward or formal or something

I actually know a couple of people popped in my head that speak like that really have very formal speech patterns and I think I wonder if you know know, they get judged or, you know, boxed in sometimes because of that speech pattern. Yeah. I bet you they do. I bet you they do. I bet they get, you know, one of them is a family member, a nephew of mine. And he has a very kind of formal, intellectual kind of speech pattern, which I know him well. So to me, it doesn't seem unusual. But I think a lot of times that the impression is that he's not socially comfortable, which is not the case at all. No, it's absolutely.

It's just he's very comfortable with that sort of data-oriented, you know, concrete formal descriptions. So it would be, yeah, it's just an interesting thing to think of seven out of her Borg branding, so to speak. Correct. And being, you know, playing a human, a full human. Yes. On the ship.

Yes. how different she might seem. Yes. Or the writers could have written her response being more colloquial. Yeah. And more hip sounding, right? She's undercover, you know, where she could say, yeah, it's pretty cool. You know, something like, I don't know.

That's probably too slang, but you know what I'm saying. It would have been funny, though. I think you're under something. It would have been, it would have given us a lot of comedy if we had been able to. If she had her trying to be casual. and an opportunity to play the cover of some, you know. Completely. Nothing, someone's no, nothing like seven.

Exactly. That would have been another layer that would have added more depth and more richness to this episode. Yeah, it would have been funny. Okay, so in our story at this point, I think we're jumping to Sick Bay right now. Janeway and Patterson arrive in Sick Bay, and they activate the EMH, who is a little bit salty,

because at this point, he, you know, he hasn't really evolved so much. He's just the EMH. He's a, he's the first, well, not even, not a trial. Is he a trial program at this point? He's a new program. He's a new program. He's a new program.

Because the admiral says he's got four million, you know, doctors in his database, doctors, you know, files. And when he appears, he goes, nope, five million. Five million. Exactly. So we have the appearance of Bopacardo for a very short amount of time. Patterson deactivates him. we move on to engineering when we see seven who's wandering around trying to get her stuff done

and Lieutenant Carey sees. She's kind of creeping around engineering. Yeah, she's true. Let's face it, she's a creeper in this scene. Carrie notices that he doesn't know who she is and he walks up to come talk to her. And basically she introduces herself as Anna Jameson, Jameson, comma, Anna. So he asked her, what are you doing here? And she says, oh, I'm just trying to realign the EPS manifold.

She's thinking, she's trying to come up with something on the run there. And she's good enough that she comes up with this. And he says, well, I can help you. She says, no, no, no, no, no. And then he says, well, maybe I'll see you in the mess hall later. And she's like, well, probably not. Or unfortunate or what is her term? She says, doubtful.

And then he's like, excuse me? Yeah, what's that? And he says, oh, well, I'm just, I'm on assignment. I'm not even a member of the voyage crew. I'm just here on assignment doing a couple of things. for Starfleet. And so that's her way of getting out. He's kind of flirty in this. He's very much flirty. You can tell he's trying to make a move on her. Yeah, he's trying to make a move. Yeah. It's very interesting. And then you see her sort of sneaking back towards the Jeffries Tube doors that take us to our

Jeffries Tube sets off engineering. As she heads over there, we cut out in the hall. Janeway's heading to engineering to get the tour. And we have a little moment there where she comes in. Yeah. And we reveal that this is the engine room for Voyager. Janeway's seeing it for the very first time. We go back in the tubes, and Seven is talking to someone. Crawling through the tubes. Crawling through the tubes. She says she's located the temporal distortion.

She opens another door. I did notice when that tour opened it, look back on her, the fake background of the tube behind her. Yeah. What did you see? It didn't line up. It was like a different color. So the Jeffrey's tube, the Jeffries tube,

The Jeffries tube was really only about eight or ten feet deep. Yes. And then it stopped. That's it. And what we would put behind it is either a green screen so that they could extend it. But that was very expensive. The other thing that they usually did was just put up this, they rolled in this photo backing. That's what I sat there.

And it was fine, but it was not the same color. Right. It was like bluer. And it was, and all of a sudden, the lights that go. along the perspective, change direction a little. It was just, I don't know, it really distracted. I'm sorry. Yeah, but anyway, she, after I was traumatized by the fake photo and the back fall of the tube,

I let that go. And she steps over, opens up a panel, and she says, I found the weapon. Deck four, Section 39. She's found that weapon. Somebody on the communication, however she's communicating, tells her to begin the procedure. Sure. So she starts that up. We then jump over to engineering. An alarm goes off. Janeway walks over to Lieutenant Carey and says, you know, what's going on? He says, evidently one of the EPS relays has gone offline. Janeway says, you know, this is great. I'm ready to roll up my sleeves and tackle this on my own. I'll take over. Lieutenant Carey. Exactly. Get out dirty. I can take care of this. And then she goes on a mission to figure out what's going on. We jump back to the Jeffries Tube. And we find out that the weapon is. out of phase. So she can't really deactivate the weapon. She was sent to the wrong time frame.

So she needs to be sent to the correct time frame by whoever. As an audience member, we still don't know who the heck is sending her. Who she's talking to? We don't know. We have no clue. No clue. But they say we know where the weapon is. Now we need to know when. Yeah, exactly. When was it placed? Because that's, we need to intercept that person before they place it in that section of the Jeffries tube. We jump back to engineering where Janeway has noticed that the hatch that goes from engineering into the Jeffrey's Tube was locked from the inside. So very mysterious and clearly there's some type of intruder, somebody is on the ship. And then with her tricorder, she reads some type of croton flux. Patterson quickly tells security to seal off deck four. So now

force fields are going into effect. And now we jump back to the Jeffries Tube and seven now knows that she has been detected. The voice, the strange voice from the other side tells her that there's too much interference from the weapon to beam her out. And the voice asks her to recalibrate her temporal transport beam. So we now know we have official confirmation. She is from another time in history. And then she was beamed temporally aboard this Voyager in this time frame. And now we jump to the corridor and we have Janeway and Patterson accessing the Jeffreys tube from a different section, a different part of the ship. I just got to say

something here. So Patterson and Janeway and Tuvac is there too as well. And Tuvac. Yeah. But they don't really have weapons on them. I mean, did they maybe have I thought they had phasers? Didn't they have phasers? No? I don't know.

Well, later on when they get caught in the middle, they don't have phasers. So it would be a continuity problem if they had them in one timeline and didn't in another. But it just seemed like if you read this chronoton flux is there and there's an intruder locking doors like it could be many people they could be into a big battle here wouldn't you bring more than the admiral wouldn't you actually take the admiral away from the danger i was like what are you are you really just you guys

three or four people are going to go see what's up yeah wouldn't you wouldn't you take the venerated admiral who's you know served starfleet for all all these years away from the front line of danger. Yes, you probably would. But instead, it is Janeway and Patterson. And by the way, they're scientists, right? Like, the whole of the purposes is, we're scientists. I'm going to give you a pop quiz.

We are not the special forces, special ops that go in when we detect their temporal flux situations and locked corridors. Okay, so they're not section 31, but I will say this, Janeway's weapon that she has with her and Patterson is science. They have science. They can, yes. Yes, they can blinded them with science. Blinded them with science.

Okay, I just had to do a little Thomas Dolby. Thomas Dolby. Look at that. You were pulling back from the 80s. I love that. Okay. Anyway, so they go in. Yes, they go in.

They send Tuvok in another direction. Yes, as foolish as they are. Yes, Tuvok goes the other way. So even more dangerous for the admiral. But anyway. Yeah. Now, Jay, sorry. So now we have seven in the Jeffries tube and the disembodied voice tells her to scramble the locking mechanism before they can get in and this and that.

But, you know, that doesn't happen. Now we have the very first shot of the temporal Starship Bridge interior. We have a captain. That's Captain Braxton. And, of course, at this point, I'm watching him going like, who is that guy? And I know it's Bruce McGill, but I'm thinking, that's funny because I just went with it.

I'm like, oh, yeah, Bruce, he's back, right, I recognize it. I was like, I recognize him. Yeah, no, you recognize him from a billion things he's done, but not from Voyager. Not the previous. Exactly. Whoops. So Captain Braxton, played by Bruce McGill, is now ordering a beam out of seven.

And Lieutenant Ducane, which we find out his name way later, but not now. but we're going to say it now. Lieutenant Ducane, aka Robert Carradine, he says that there is just way too much interference, and if they pull her out now, it might damage her bionetic implants. And I don't know if you noticed this,

but as I was watching, Megan goes, look at their com badges. I'm looking. She goes, it's the Chrono Works logo. I thought, holy, mind blown. And it's like,

oh, my God. It's not a start. Fleet logo. It's a QuanaWorks logo. So, yeah, from Future Zen, part one and two. But I do like their uniforms. I thought those uniforms, I did too. I liked Bob Blackman came up with.

Oh, yeah. This crazy side thing, yeah, with the little, so the colors on that little, you know, off, it's basically off-centered, right? It's a little sliver of color there, but everything else is a dark gray. So I really liked what Bob Blackman did with that. They look

really cool. We jumped to the Jeffrey's tube and Janeway and Patterson enter, but yet there's no sign of seven. She's been beamed out, and therein lies the mystery of the chronoton flux that Janeway has no clue as to the answer of that. And now we jump over to the temporal starship's transporter room. Seven beams in and immediately falls to the ground. And then that's when Duquesne informs the audience that she is dead. And of course, wait a minute. What? Jerry Ryan's dead? Yeah. Seven of nine. I know. What is happening here? Almost dead or dead dead.

So I bring in a Princess Bride. Yes. But it's a time. By the way, I'm just going to be transparent here. These timeline stories make my brain hurt. They are. They're painful. It's so painful because it just all of a sudden you're like, oh, everything's possible, so nothing matters.

It's still cool, though. I do enjoy seeing a good timeline. For me, I do. It's kind of me. Some people love them. I'm just not. For me, I'm like, as soon as you're doing timelines. All right, scale for one to ten, ten being love most, one being cannot stand.

Where is timeline, where is jumping around on time, temporal storylines for you? Three. Really? Yeah. Not high. Okay. I'm on the other end. I'm eight.

Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. I mean, I think like in a back to the future that's, um, the whole story is in one film, you can tell a time story in a film,

but in a series where you've got multiple stories and all kinds of serialized stories. And it's like, I don't know, it starts to pull everything apart for the other episodes to me, like as soon as you play with the time. See, this is good. This is why we compliment each other. Okay.

You are anti-temporal timeline storylines. I am four temporal timeline storylines. You are... I'm just cautious. I'm cautious of them You are the Voyager I am Voyager So there you go

Little differences here All right All right So now we go to A the exterior shot Of this temporal starship Which I'm gonna say It is sleek

It's beautiful You know what it looks like It looks sort of like A stealth fighter From any military From the US military It looks like It also looks a lot like

the Delta Flyer. Do you see that in there, too? Big version. No. It's got sort of similar. Yeah, I think so. Oh. Like Stingray kind of.

No, I don't see that at all. Oh, I totally see it. It looks like a submarine and a stealth fighter mixed together to me. Okay. So, all right. But if you see Delta Flyer, again, I see Delta Flyer and everything. Compliment. Yes, of course you do.

Of course you do. Okay. So we're back on the temporal Starship Bridge. And Braxton orders DeCain to go back in time to recruit seven yet again since the seven that they have is now dead. And, you know, DeCain says, look, a fourth jump, seven could suffer neural damage, even temporal psychosis, which is an affliction that nobody wants, clearly. You don't need to have that. Is that something that was invented for this episode? I don't ever remember hearing temporal psychosis.

I think it was an temporal psychosis. and it becomes very important because that's what the dude has later on. But anyway, it's an important point. Very important concept. That was created for this episode. The captain. Yeah, he orders him, recruiter again, do it. We're going to grab her a microsecond before the explosion on Voyager,

and no one will even know she's gone. And so DeKane follows the orders and he starts to walk over. I love the way Jay Carnes did this when they were, when he was kind of. Yeah, he calls it out. Yeah. I wrote it down. He goes, as he's walking over to the center of the bridge, he goes, Ray Shields, time frame, star date, 52861.274.

Delta Quadrant, special coordinates 87 Theta by 271, Target USS Voyager. Very theatrical. It was so, yeah. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. Like, yeah.

With some panache, with a little jubes. Real panache. Because he could have easily just rattled that off like he was bored, but no, he performed that. And he did it again later. Yeah, he did it. I loved it, though. Whenever they were jumping time, like that, it's like, okay, this is my thing that I do. But you know what I like about it, though, Robbie?

I like the fact that he makes it loud, he makes it, he projects to the back of the house. But if you think about it, you can't mess up with temporal coordinates. You need to be very, very clear about where in time you're going. So this is probably status quo. And for Jay to come up with this or maybe the director who came up with this, I don't know who. It's brilliant. It makes sense to me.

This is the way you're going to call the ball every single time in the future. So I loved it for sure. I did too. I liked it a lot. That's why I wrote it down. That's why I wanted to perform it because I was impressed. Good job, Jay. Next we cut to this point of view, this POV shot.

and it's all green and we see the doctor kind of distorted with some kind of light and he says follow the light. I thought that was a very cool, mysterious moment. I'm like, what is happening? Yeah, because you don't even know where it's at either because you're thinking, okay, it's the doctor's voice. They're clearly in sick bay, but they're not. I thought, I wrote it down.

No. I wrote sick bay. Oh, we're in sick bay. And then as soon as we jumped out to see, no, we're in the cargo bay. Yeah. Five Seven's regeneration pods. That's right. And seven is getting this diagnosis.

She says that she tried a self-diagnosis. She did. She says the flaw is her human physiology. Yeah. She had dizziness. She had double vision. She's concluded that it's something called Albright-Salzman syndrome. And the doctor's like, well, I don't think that because that's super rare.

He said the last time someone who came down with that was 200 years ago. So it's kind of like, I don't think that's it. Yeah. I love this, though, because it, like, totally called me out because I have gone on the internet so many times to Google, like, self-diagnose myself. And I'm sure that I have this rare disease, right? Yeah.

Seven did exactly what every human does. Yeah. What every hypochondriac human being does. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So the doctor says it's probably just a mild case of sensory aphasia. and he's got a little something for that.

He futses with his hyperspray and gives her a little, a little juge. And voila, she can start, it kind of comes into focus. She can see everything's good. He starts to head out. And he basically says next time, just consult me. Don't self-diagnose. Don't Google your symptoms. He says, don't go to the database to find out what's going on.

And that seven has that lovely line. You are the database is what she says. says back so there you go i love that line yeah you are the database and then then he responds finally with uh yes with two legs and a splendid bedside manner which is his final his final line as he walks out yeah we cut out into the hall and paris is bouncing a ping pong ball yeah but before you go in before you go to paris bouncing a ping pong ball again we just the episode right two episodes before this before this was 1159 before that was your episode that you directed someone to watch over me. And that whole Dr. Crush

does not play in this episode at all. It's gone. That's all infatuation. Yeah. Yeah, it's, well, it was the kind of thing. They did not encourage us to hang on to any stories. I mean, unless they brought them up. If they bring them up, it's okay. But we weren't able to keep those. But we weren't able to play almost never. I mean, I do think with Bolana and Tom, there was some of that. But again, even with Tom and Bolana, there wasn't a lot of opportunity unless they wrote it. That's right. To really play that. That's right. Okay. But yeah, we go out into the hall next and there's Paris walking long, bouncing the ping pong ball. And he's bouncing it up and out. And I was like, oh my God. I paused. And I was like, I remember this. I was terrified

because I had to do the whole scene walking, remembering my lines. Yeah. Bouncing a real ping pong ball. I remember saying to them, like, is there going to be a digital ball? That's what I thought. I go, there's no way he bounced that ball the entire time. That was a real ball. But yes, I figured that out. That was a real ball.

And you did a really good job. And I know that you're the only thing that sort of gave off the fact that you were nervous is your other hand. Your other hand was down here ready to catch if it fell off. It was sort of, typically you're not. You're going to be all ready to catch it. You're going to be kind of like casual and then catch it. But I can tell.

I did so many takes. I mean, oh, no, I believe you. But there were so many takes where I would be like three lines in and the ball would fall and be like, I hear you.

And then, okay, got to start over again. Yes. Yeah, and here we go. Action, bounce, bounce,

bounce. Couple lines in falls off. So we did a lot. We didn't do like 25 takes or anything, but we probably did eight or 10 takes easily because. Yeah. But it was smooth. I mean, the end result of the one that they finally used.

Yeah, it worked. Your dialogue, there's no detection of you being nervous at all. The bouncing looked great. And again, the only thing is because I reround this, I rewound that scene 17 times. So that, therefore, I was like, oh, okay. His hand is a little. It's for real. His other hand, yeah.

And that's the only thing. No one else is going to see that because they're going to be watching the bouncing ball the entire time. Well, also, just for the audience to know. Yeah. that's a real ball in the hallway. But later on in the mess hall, we did some real ball, but most of it was vis effects, if you remember. Yes, I do recall that.

Yeah, we did do some, but not much because to get four people to actually play ping pong in a decent manner. Yeah, it's going to be difficult for sure. Yeah, so that was a digital ball later on. But in this scene, to save money, I learned how to bounce the ball and say the words at the same time. Look at that. I saved the company money again.

This is Robbie McNeil displaying how he could walk and chew gum at the same time. And he did it. It took him a few takes, but he got it done. So good job. Yes. Anyway, she says, oh, that's a curious exercise. And he says he's got a doubles tournament coming up. Yeah.

And it takes a lot of hand-eye coordination. And then all of a sudden he realized, wait a minute, she's a borg. Yeah. He's like, hey, maybe you should be my partner. And she's like, no, not interesting. And he goes, well, I guess I'll just tell Boulana that you're afraid that you're not good enough. And she's like, oh, you're appealing to my vanity. It works.

It works. But here's my question for you. Why isn't Bala your partner to begin with? I don't know. That made no sense either. I was like, no, I don't understand. But anyway, so you do recruit seven to be your partner. I do.

It's fine. We jump to Sick Bay. And now Janeway has entered Sick Bay. and she has some symptoms. She tells the doctor, she has nausea and dizziness. And he mentions, oh, well, you're the third person that I've treated for space sickness. And the doc suggests, you know, maybe the inertial dampers are out of alignment. There could be a number of reasons behind this.

And he gives Jane Way a little hypospray and sends her on the way. And she says, I'll check out the inertial dampers. Now we jump to the mess hall and we have the ping pong match. We have Harry and Boulon on one team, seven and Tom and the same. the other. And I do now that you mentioned it earlier that this, a lot of it was Viz effects, I was supremely excited that we were actually playing ping pong. Ping pong is one of my favorite things. Yeah. Oh my God. So I was sitting here going, yes, I get to play something that I have played my entire life and that I relish playing, but we didn't. And that really

bummed me out. Digital, it was a fake digital ball. So they told us how many moves, you know, what the pattern, what the order was that people were supposed to be hitting. And you can tell sometimes if you freeze it on a two shot that like I was looking down but Jerry was looking over there. Oh, no, you're not even looking at the same eye line then. Oh, good catch.

You can only tell if you freeze it at the right moment. If you're not freezing it, it's definitely not detectable. Yeah, it still works. Yeah, we go back and forth. And then all of a sudden, Tom says, Say good night, Harry. I don't know. And why didn't you say, say goodnight, Balana?

I mean, I thought you would say that, but no, you got to mess with me. And you come in for this huge hit, which you did very well. You looked very physically, you know, spry. I had a ping pong table as a kid myself. There you go. So another similarity between you and I. And so then you come in for this huge, huge, basically overhand smash. And then the ball freezes.

And again, I don't recall, remember the ball freezing. before so I was like you know it was kind of cool that effect there and Harry goes like what kind of shot do you call that when you freeze the ball in midair seven pulls out a tricorder where I don't know where she found the tricorder

but she has a tricorder and she reads temporal distortions are afoot so now we know something's going on or at least these actors now know these characters now know something's happening but then we leave we jump out of that scene right

we don't really have any explanation except she reads no she reads the temporal distortions everybody's kind of curious for a second and then the ball goes shooting unfreezes and goes shooting yeah and neelis is like it's almost like yeah well that happens every day balls freeze in the middle of the game all the time yeah it was very funny he's like no big deal back to my pad keeping score by the way the score was 19 19 19 score 19 score yeah close got a win by two I think. So, yeah. I wish someone would have said,

it's haunted or something like that. I mean, it's just like there was no, no acknowledgement of a ball freezing for about six seconds before it moved on. I feel like whatever was going on in the ping pong tournament

in this scene, nobody was phased by the frozen ball. And later on, when there's literally a shootout next to it, it's like everybody just kind of stands around going, but the ping pong tournament, like nobody died. Vives for cover or...

No. Like, standing there. Who are you? I even say to him later, I'm jumping to the later. I'm like, yeah. Wait, who are you? Who? Excuse me? With a gun and the weird cry quarter and the, like, yeah, who are you?

Maybe an invader. Maybe this is urgent. Yeah. Anyway, the frozen ping pong ball didn't seem to bother Neelix. No. Oh, well. Oh, well. Yeah.

We go to a cool fly by a Voyager. We kind of to ask for metrics. Janeway comes in and asks for a report. Bala has been studying these temporal distortions why the ball froze. What's going on in here? She says these distortions are fracturing space time throughout the ship.

And we cut up and we see the different parts of the ship that are starting to have damage from these temporal distortions that are damaging the hull. Tuvok says the cause is unknown, but it's emanating from deck four section 39. It's tearing the ship apart, basically. Yeah, we have two hours. We got two hours before the ship is toast.

Then we go to a three shot. Now, I took a picture in my notes of this three shot. I just want to say something. Okay. We may have talked about this before. Yeah. Bilanah's uniform has a V cut that's down. It's lower.

Almost to her belly button. Okay, not quite that low, but it's low. Yeah. And then next to her is Janeway, and her V cut just barely crosses over the black line. Correct. And then Tuvok's, I don't even think

it touches the black line. No. Why does everybody have a different length of V? We've talked about this before. Well, tell me, I remember we did.

So if you watch Is this your theory? No, is this really a fact. It's a fact. I think we, I think Bob Blackman told us about this.

So if you look at season one, two, and three of Voyager, Harry's also ends at the line, just like two boxes. Oh, yeah. And then later, it goes lower.

It denotes, or it basically shows who is more relaxed. The more relaxed you are, the more in command of everything, it drops lower. If you're a more uptight character, it stays at the line. So Bala is more relaxed than that. See, that's really weird. That doesn't make any sense. It should be the other way around, right? The captain should basically go down to her belly button.

Like, she's like, is it relaxed? Is it confident? is it yeah it's closely more in a way right yeah I guess but I think I heard it was about like who's more uptight the more uptight characters are going to have them interesting stop at the line okay so anyway they're in astrometrics they just all a sudden in that three shot they're lined up and I was like what the heck oh yeah that's all great I'm glad we covered that sure and and by the way at the end of this scene that we come away with we realize we have only about two hours at the most that's

draft before this these temporal uh distortions just tear the whole ship apart two hours that's not a lot of time and that's the end of the ship basically so now we're in sick bay and we see the doctor is administering a hypo spray to somebody a very sick individual and that person is played by one of our regular background actors and sometimes he also did stand in work as well Pablo, that's Pablo right there, getting the hypo spray. I got to say, Pablo was just, she was doing some acting there. He was doing some. He was really just, if anyone has ever noticed, Pablo has a huge career in commercials.

He has gone on from Star Trek as a background artist to become a very successful commercial actor. Nice. And I've seen him in dozens and dozens of commercials. He's a real actor. And by the way, the thing I love about Pablo is his obsession. was salsa dancing. Do you remember that? And he, oh, he talked about salsa dancing, and he would always be sort of dancing off to the side between takes. And I love that he was a big salsa dancer.

Anyway, he also, I think he, didn't he write a book as well? Oh, I wouldn't be surprised. Okay. Anyway, he was a go-getter. He was, he was, yeah, he was all, he was always on the set with us, very good nature. We joked around with him all the time. The doctor then says, an injection a day keeps space sickness away. And Pablo plays a really just not, not amused at all person and not happy with being sick. So Pablo did a great job there, nonverbal acting. And Janeway hails the doctor to say that the epidemic has been caused by temporal distortions. And the doctor goes, aha, I figured it was something like that.

Neelix then calls the doctor to the mess hall with a medical emergency. ensign Manus is violently ill and the doctor says okay I'm heading down there he heads into the mess hall and all is fine Neelix is there talking about food or whatever he's looking around

relax does not remember calling he's like you call me emergency Neelix is like I don't remember calling you no idea and St. Manus is fine they look over and some manis seems fine for a second and then he collapsed and he collapses

and the doc rushes over yeah and he puts together the temporal distortions. He checks the time on a nearby console. It realizes that it's seven minutes earlier in the mess hall than it was in sick bay when he called. That's right. So different parts of the ship are now starting to align in different timelines and that explains why that's why the call hasn't happened yet. Yeah, 1543 is the time in sick bay. 1536 is the time in mess hall. So Sickbay is ahead of Mess Hall. We go to the ready room now, and Janeway's ordering coffee black again.

She really loves her coffee, doesn't she? She does. I'm glad that I used the mug today, the Janeway mug. I had no idea how perfect our Delta Flyers, Janeway, I beat the board with coffee mug. That you can only get through the Delta Flyers. And how appropriate it is for today's episode. Very much so. Yes.

More coffee for Janeway. Yeah. Chikote comes in. She's like, please don't give me bad news. You know what happens to the people that deliver bad news? That's right. Kill the messenger kind of threat. He goes, basically, he says, it's a temporal paradox.

That time is speeding up in some parts of the ship. It's slowing down in other parts of the ship. And that the fractures, the space time fractures are growing stronger throughout the ship. All of a sudden, they have an aha moment talking about how food that, was just replicated turns rotten within seconds. Yeah, she says her coffee. Her coffee tastes old. She's replicated at the top of the scene.

She goes, this tastes like it's three days old. Yep. Yeah. So it's starting to make sense. Yeah. Janeway does come up with a solution. Janeway says she's been working on enhancing the containment fields to keep these fractures from spreading. And right when she says that, all of a sudden, you see multiple images of Chikote.

Like, he's just, you know, as he's walking at the desk. It's like, yeah, five or six different phases of Chakotay's echoing and overlapping. And she scans him and finds that the temporal distortion is right here happening. There's a fracture happening right there. Intersecting the room and it's expanding. It's getting bigger. And so Chocote and Jameway leave with the last comment, Chocote goes, well, we can test out your theory of the containment fields.

Give that a shot. We go in the tube and Jeffers 2, Bala. and seven come out of that Jeffrey's tube door that has the really bad photo backing behind it. It's like it's all about the perspective. Like just it is. Move it a little. Anyway,

that really bummed me. But Balana says that it's coming from right here. Yeah. And they open up the panel and Seven sees a piece of technology. Yep. But Belana does not. Can't see it. Only seven. So her implants

can detect irregularities in space time. And they call the bridge. When we cut to the bridge, the bridge is shaking. Janeway says, beam that piece of technology off. Tuvok's like, I can't get a lock on it. Harry says it's starting to demolecularize the hall. Yeah. And I was wondering, when you said demolecularized, do you remember? I had a memory, I don't know if I'm right, that you couldn't say demoleculealize on the day. It was very difficult. I can't even say it now. Demolecularize. It was very difficult.

Do you remember that, too? Yes. I feel like when we were shooting that scene, you were like, Demoleclical, like, ah, crap. I was really upset. I was like, I thought so. Dang it. Like, why can't you guys just, you know, the hole's about the buckle?

How about that? The hole's about the buckle. That's better than de molecular rise. So funny. I remember that too. And it's shocking that you recall that. But it's interesting. You remember my times of stress.

I do. I do. It was very tragic. It was difficult. Because, like, sometimes it's some of these words that are techno babble words, they end up becoming tongue twisters in my estimation. It's not easy to say. So, you know, I mean, you don't grow up, you don't grow up in the 60. You're not born in the 60s and go through the 70s and 80s talking about demolecularizing anything.

Like, no one ever uses this. So, yeah. In fact, when I tried to type the word demolecularize, I kept auto-correctinging. to just the letter D and molecular because it's not a word. Like, it's a Star Trek made up word. I don't think there's not a real word of demolecularize. I feel better now. Yeah, so, but I do remember it was hard to say.

So in that moment, I was like, oh, I remember Garrett was really getting frustrated. We're watching that. I've been there. Megan goes, you had a hard time with that word, didn't you? I go, yes, I did. That was not fun. Yeah. All right.

We go back to. A corridor. A corridor. And Duquesne and another time ship officer beam in. Yes. I love their beemins, by the way. They have different than ours. Yeah.

It felt very modern and very cool. Yes. Just a nice detail, but they mix it up a little. Yeah. But they beam in and take off somewhere. We go to the bridge. Harry's picked up a chronotone flux reading. 0.003.

Yeah. Picked up that reading. And all of a sudden. Janeway moves up to my state. at this point. Yeah, she's like, wait a minute. I remember that. And she goes, dry dock. That's what she says. And Harry's like, Captain. And she says, I remember

the Quarantan flux from five years ago when it was in Dry Dock. And so this is a big, big, you know, plot point right here. So we know. Okay. So this is where. Uh-oh. Here's your problem. Here we go. So she remembers part of that timeline.

Yes. But I guess because they haven't, so because they haven't like taken her yet and reintegrated all her memories and correct so she's got portions of the timeline that were corrupted by seven being there correct okay i mean yes and no it still makes my brain hurt i don't know i don't like it okay so um but anyway okay so she starts to remember some of this so we realize the dry dock has memories have are still there for her and then five years ago. Jacote talks about temporal distortions or about to destroy the ship. She's like,

we got abandoned ship. This is huge. Tell us the crew. Abandon ship. Jump into these escape pods and type in or punch in this heading of 178 mark four. This is going to be the rendezvous point for everybody. And yeah, we've never, ever done that. So it's a lot of people, even though we have lost a lot of people. Yes. And the random number is somewhere between 140 and 165. There you go. I don't know, somewhere in there. Do you think we have enough escape pods for everybody? That's what I'm saying. That'd be a lot of escape pods.

That'd be at least like 10, 20, 30 escape pods. Yeah, I'm feeling like you're doubling up or tripling up or quadrupling up people in escape pods, right? It's not just one per person. Yeah. I've never seen an escape pod. I wonder what our escape pods look like. I think we, yeah.

I don't think. No, actually, there is an episode where some of us get into an escape pod and we exit. So this is not the first. time we've gotten into an escape pod. Oh, really? Yeah, I do feel like we've already seen that. And of course, one of our fans are going to, they're going to remind us. They're going to remind us. Okay. So she says abandon ship. We cut out in the hall. Seven is walking. I love the cool low angle that she's moving quite briskly. I don't know if she's walking. Yeah. Yeah. But great kind of shot here. And then she runs into the cane. And he places a device that looks like a mobile emitter on her shoulder.

Yeah. And what does she say, though? She says, identify yourself. And he says, no time, which is a reference back to, oh, the pilot, the pilot episode with caretaker himself. He's like, no time. There's no time. There's no time. So, you know, there's a lot of time kind of references. Yes, you're right. Foyager has. So there you go. I got to say when he put the thing on her shoulder. Yeah. It was, it was similar in size and shape to the doctor's mobile emitter. A different color, though. Yeah, it was placed on the shoulder like the mobile emitter. I really wish that they had done something different. Yeah, I would have loved to have seen him place it on her third eye, on her forehead, yeah, on her chest. Yeah. Or maybe right on her nose. Right when he put it on her nose too. So it's a classic.

It's a classic Garrett move. It is. Boop, boop. Yeah, I booped Robbie quite a bit and he would boot me back on the bridge. And it was me touching Robbie's com badge. I would go, boop. And then Robbie would go, ha ha ha, boop, right back. Thank you for booping with me.

I appreciate it. A little boop nostalgia. Yeah. Yeah, I wish they had done it anywhere. It felt like because it was so similar to the mobile emitter, I just think that should have bugged you. It bug me. I knew that was going to bug you.

It bug me. Anyway, I can guess when you're going to get bugged now. So, all right. They get beamed out, temporarily beamed out, right? Now we have an interesting. shot what did you think of that shot back on our bridge or that voyager bridge with janeway what does that look on her face is that look on her face like i'm going down with the ship is that the look that she had i think so okay so she didn't go to the escape pod she was like this whole ship's going to be

toast in about five seconds and we push it on her exterior vis vis a vis effect shot of voyager exploding not a very good shot of voyager exploding but yeah it is voyager being ripped apart yeah and janeway of that timeline is no more, unfortunately. Well, it was an explosion that was not like a physical explosion. It was these time fluctuations that were ripping the thing apart. So there was sort of a bit of ghostly, like it was a weird explosion. Yeah. Like it didn't feel like a, you know, a photon, torpedo ripped it apart.

It was like it was kind of exploding and disintegrating and disappearing sort of. It was, it was very different. And when it came apart, it looked like Voyager was then a puzzle, like different pieces. as a Voyager were very puzzle-like. And I thought, oh, wouldn't it be like kind of, you know, just evaporate or completely be just, you wouldn't see anything, any debris, but you really see big chunks of debris. Big chunks. Yeah, huge chunks, quite chunky.

We go to space again. We see the time ship fly by. I thought it looked even more like the Delta Flyer from this. I can't see. All right, now I've got to go back and watch this again, just to see what you're talking about. It looks like a giant Delta Flyer mother ship. to me. I don't see that. Okay, that's fine. No, but I'll have to look at it again. So now we're on the Relativity Bridge and Braxton is greeting her. He's like, welcome back. And he says, we're on

the Federation Timeship Relativity. And now you know this is actually a federation ship. And he tells her this is almost 500 years in the future. Well, he does say when she first gets introduced, he's like, oh, good to see you again. She's like, again. And he goes, oh, I keep forgetting. I keep thinking you're going to remember. And I was, I was like, shouldn't you know that? Like, you're a freaking time ship captain. You should know when you probably live in. They're not going to remember. Yeah. I just, I thought that was an odd little imperfection of him. Oh, I thought you might remember. You know, she's not going to remember. It is odd. But so, but that sort of adds the fact where you don't, you know, when he does a little bit off. Yeah, he's a little off. So that, that you're like, okay, I,

into that you know he's a little he's a little loopy but he does explain yeah we're in we're you're now five here hundred years in the future yeah we need your help somebody planted this weapon on voyager we need you to find it she's like why me yeah okay yeah and this weapon this is the this is the this the part that really oh no okay so he goes your ocular implant it can to detect fractures in space time better than any of our sensors I call bull crap on that. Her ocular implant is better than any technology, time ship specialist have 500 years of the future.

It's really, let's face it, her ocular implant are like the edsel. Okay, the edsel. And what they're dealing with is the Tesla, is what they're doing. Or they already have a Tesla. And they're saying that her edsel is more advanced. I knew that was going to get you. me like forget about the timeline stuff about that the fact that this whole episode hinges yeah on the belief yeah that her ocular implant can detect fractures in space time better than any of

their tail but i was like they do i i hear you i know you're upset i know it pulled you out but they did add an extra line on there they said basically yeah you know your implants can are better than our sensors, but they also add, and plus because of your familiarity with the crew, you will blend in better. They added that, okay? Okay. So now she's there to help solve the mystery of this weapon, which basically fractures space time within a radius of 150 meters.

It's called a Force 3 temporal disruptor, which is a really cool sounding name, to be honest. Force three temporal disruptor. Yeah, so. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah. So now they know this. They know that it was placed on Voyager two years before seven arrived when we were dealing with the Kazon.

We're fighting off the Kazon. Shields were down at the time. And that's why somebody was able to get on board and placed this temporal disruptor there. Yeah, but she's like, it can't be the Ks. The Kazon? Yeah. They don't even know how to make water. They don't even know how to make water.

Exactly. They're way too dumb to do this. And they say, no, it's not the K's on it, somebody else, clearly. So then Braxton tells Ducane to brief seven on their modern 500 years in the future protocols. We have a little bit of a time jump. And now we're in a- They do tell her, by the way, in that scene, they say, look, you've done this first twice before. This will be your third jump.

Right. You can do three jumps, but after that, there could be side effects. Yeah. That's important that she knows this. That's correct. They say that, yeah, there could be side effects of sensory effects. It can cause psychosis. So we got to get it right this time. This is your third to try. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. Meet me in Hall of Matrix. One, we're going to practice with the simulation.

Right. He'll fill you in on all our protocols. And we cut to them doing the protocols. Yeah, they do the protocols. And it's a very wordy scene. My goodness. I mean, for them to have to both these actors have to memorize that. Bravo. Bravo to them. They have to talk about the Dolly paradox. They have to talk about the Pogo paradox. They have to give an exam. Seven has to give an example of the Pogo paradox. And so it's very, very dense. I actually like the scene, though, I got to say, because I did, because because I struggle with time jump stories, the fact that they were sort of giving the cliff notes of like, here's the issues in time. It helped explain it to you. To me, it was just gave it gave some context of like, you know,

what are the potential pitfalls and dangers and these stories? Correct. I like this scene. Okay, good. Good. Yeah. You're right. I mean, it gives you, the parameters of what they're working with. And for people that are averse to these temporal storylines, this is a really good primer. Yeah, exactly. And what did you say? The cliff notes, the cliff notes of temporal dynamics. So now at the end of the scene, they go through all this.

And the one kind of takeaway I had was she says something like, are you sure this is going to work? And he says, look, I trust Braxton. And she says, well, Jane, has taught me about trust and about how that human quality. And so they both sort of bond over this idea of like, yeah, trusting Janeway and trust with Braxton,

which I think is important because that's going to play out later on. Yeah, because Duquesne says, I trust Braxton just like you trust Captain Janeway. Yes, exactly. So that's, there you go. That's setting up.

That's sort of a set up for later. We do jump to the Relativity's Holo Matrix, where Seven is with Braxton. And Braxton has, you know, basically set up what it, looks like of where, you know, the exact panel and how, you know, where this, this, this temporal weapon is, is located. And then he goes into this long diatribe about how how horrible Janeway is.

And just like, she's called, oh, this guy. Yeah. I've had to clean up her mess so many times. Three, three major temporal incursions that had, that I had to take care of. Janeway is just somebody who has messed everything up, poking her nose in where she doesn't need to poke it in. I was stranded in the 20th century for three decades, but actually Bruce McGill, you weren't. It was another actor, so you have to deal with that. And Braxton, you know, the final, the final mandate to seven from Braxton is avoid contact with Janeway. That is an order. I mean, he's a very clear cut about it. Don't even, don't even let her see you, you know, So you now get a little sense of Braxton does not like Janeway.

He does not like Janeway. Nope. Not a fan of Janeway. We have a little bit of a time jump. We're still on the relativity. I like that one line that Braxton says, we have a saying in our line of work, there's no time like the past. I thought that was funny.

I like that. After there's no time like the past, they do basically put her undercover. So they occlude her her ocular implant on her. face. The Borg implants on her hands disappear. They have a close-up of her at the end of the scene where she goes up to reach for her ocular implant over her

eye and you see her hand is clean. That was a nice, like, simple little storytelling beat of oh yeah, we're showing that and we're having a tender moment of her sort of acknowledging this. Yeah. It was nice. And then Duquesne gives another countdown

and he goes through the jump. I love it, Jay. It was great. Oh, my goodness. Exterior shot of Voyager fighting off the Cazon, and now we're in the Voyager corridor. Seven has beamed in. People are running everywhere.

Everywhere. Every single shot is of crewmen or background actors running, one direction, running another direction. Now, on the Voyager Bridge, Janeway calls for evasive maneuvers. Paris has a couple of lines there, too. We're fighting off the Cazon. And now we keep jumping back between the bridge, the corridor, the bridge, the corridor.

We see seven walking very quickly. And then we see the engineering room. And Janeway is asking Torres or telling Torres that she needs warp engines. Torres says, look, I can't. I can't give it to you. I have to repair the containment generator. I need 10 minutes. At least 10 minutes.

Yeah, at least 10. We jump back to the Voyager bridge. Harry picks up the chronoton flux of 0.003 from deck 4. Tuvok incorrectly says that it may be random. interference from Kazon weapons fire. Janeway crosses over to Harry Station like she has done over and over again, and she says that she has seen these readings before. So we have another scene like that.

Jeffries Tube again, seven moves to the panel. Sevens back in the Jeffries, too, opens the panel. Yep. The weapon is not there. It's gone. No sign of the weapon this time. Yeah, it's not gone. It hasn't been placed yet.

It hasn't been placed. Back to the bridge, we find out that the lead vessel, the lead Kazon vessel has been disabled. Correct. But the Kazon are regrouping. And Chikote says, Let's go to warp. They do have.

Taurus says, we can give you, I can give you warp two only. And Chikote goes, I'll take it. I'll take it. And he says, let's go. Paris does it. And they take off and the Kazon did not pursue. But Janeway continues thinking about this flux. And she remembers the dry dock in this timeline.

They never found the cause of it, she said. And so she says, I want a level 10 force field around that section immediately. Yep. And Chocote, as she walks out, he's like, are you sure you want to focus on these sensor ghosts right now? Like, you know, maybe this isn't where we want to put our energy. And she was like, no, this is important. Yeah. We go back to the two.

She picks up, seven picks up the force field that's been created. Yeah. She tries to reach the timeship, but it's blocking communication with them. Yeah, they can't hear. And the time ship is trying to compensate, but they're locked out. We go in the hallway. Yeah. And seven exits, the Jeffries tube here and hits a force field.

She's trapped in this intersection. Turns around. Janeway and Tuvock are there. They've got phasers pulled. Janeway says, who are you? And Seven's like, just drop this, you know, let me out of here. This is very important. I can't tell you.

I can't say you. I can give you my designation. And then Janeway's like, wait a minute, I do remember you. I know who you are. Utopia Panetia. is it utopia panisha or plenicia plenicia that's right auto correct on my phone yeah she does remember her utopia planisha she says and then we cut over to the time you should say panera bread that is where she auto corrected to panera bread yeah but we i love when we cut over to when janeway

does remember we cut over to the time ship and brachson simply goes oh janeway She's so upset He hates Janeway But she even Janeway even says I remember you efficient Like she you know

And it's almost like That is the reason Why she had to say it In her weird Borg delivery You know Because Janeway remembers that in a way Right

But then Janeway Could Janeway should be doing a podcast Because she remembers everything Unlike yours truly Who can't remember anything Janeway remembers even efficient, the ensign who's used the word efficient in the briefing room.

That's right. That's Janeway, but I don't think Kate Mulgrew, the actor that plays Janeway will remember everything. Janeway does. Okay. So seven is keep, seven keeps withholding information. She doesn't want to give up the, you know, give up her, her cover. She was a word not to even, not even. Don't even talk to her. Avoid contact. Yeah. And she's doing pretty well than Tuvok to text board. implants on her. And then Janeway's now, oh my gosh, scan for Borg vessels in the vicinity, you know, Janeway will not release her until she gets more information. She wants to know what's going on. Finally, Seven knows time is of the essence and she finally gives in and she spills the beans. And what really convinces Janeway to drop that force field is Seven's comment, Captain, when you take me from the Borg, you are going to tell me that part of being human is learning to

trust, trust me now. And that line is which pulls Janeway in and she says, force field, lower it now. Tuvac complies. Communication is restored with the relativity. Braxton wants to beam around. And Seven says, oh, no, no, wait a minute. That's defeating the purpose. I'm already here. I'm pursuing the Saboteur with Janeway's assistance. Cuts back to Braxton who hears with Janeway's assistance. Again, a roll of the eyes. He's like, fine proceed just do it nosy jane way um so de kane he then throws out tempus fugit do you remember that he speaks a little bit of a latin there i don't look that up and look it up time flies that's what that means i had no clue but that's what made braxton say proceed to seven and she does they wander

into or they crawl into that jeffrey's tube jane way and seven and you see a shadowy figure placing the about to place the temporal disruptor. And of course, the reveal is, it's Braxton. Braxton in a, I'm wondering, did Bruce McGill also decline the yellow, the gold suit and say, I want a green one as well. I don't know. I feel like he should have been wearing gold. But this Captain Braxton is clearly a bit deranged.

He is suffering. Oh, he's evil. And he's suffering from temporal psychosis. So nothing is up is down, down. is up to this man. And he basically says, the only way to heal my temporal psychosis is to destroy Voyager. So he's he's on a personal vendetta. That's what we find out. This has nothing to do with the federation. Voyager, it will, it will prevent his illness from ever happening. Exactly. So he's on this mission. We go to the Timeship Bridge and Duquesne now arrests. Yes. Future Braxton. Yes. And he says,

you know, for crimes that he's going to commit. To commit in the future. I'm like, what? Okay. Again. Is this minority report with Tom Cruise? What's happening here? Yeah.

Okay. This is like a timeline, ethical puzzle. It is. It bugged you again, didn't it? When he said that. I knew it. Yeah. You start playing with time and all of a sudden, like, yeah.

I don't know. Well, I mean, DeCaine, everyone else follows DeCaine's orders. So he relieves Braxton of duty, arrest him, and then orders seven to apprehend Braxton, but then Braxton, that Braxton, beams out. Beams himself out. Yeah, he's got his tricorder and his weapon with him and he beams himself out. He's been to two years. He's jumped two years earlier and seven asked DeKane. Let me follow him. And DeKane's like, oh, wait a minute. It's your fourth jump. It's your fourth jump. You really want to do this. She goes, I'm doing it. So he doesn't, he doesn't argue with her.

She jumps. She jumps. We're in a hall where she jumps into this hallway. She's leaning on this railing. Yeah, she stumbles. Suffering from this jumping. Janeway is giving a tour, or getting a tour from the Admiral. And she sees Braxton running and she throws the Admiral down. I'm just going to start with this whole section and say, the action sequences of this episode are not our best work.

Okay. It's just not shot like actions. You know, there's a shooting vocation. vocabulary that you need to make these things dynamic and feel and protect the actors from looking kind of goofy and I hear you I hear you but again I I forgave all of that I was like I'm okay with that what what really bugged me is that as Braxton just you know like a bullet in china shop he's as he's running through seven's chasing him and shoots him and hits him on his shoulder and he keeps running.

And I'm thinking what kind of phaser, what kind of cockamaney, you know, maybe lame, weak phasered were you given from 500 years in the future? I have the same thought. I rewound it. As he's running, he sort of dodges to one side. I think the story they were trying to tell was that he dodged the shot. And he dodged it without looking. He happened to know if I go left, I'll dodge the shot.

And I think she missed him. That's the only explanation I could come up with. Okay. Why is he ducking to the left? Okay. Just as the thing hits, I don't know. I know this is what I felt. I thought he got hit and that made him stumble to the side when he got hit like,

ow! And then he kept running. It was confusing. It was very confusing. Not a great again, this whole section of action, including our ping pong tournament that's coming up. Yeah. None of it felt very, the stakes didn't feel very real or dynamic in the shot.

The shots weren't really great. All right. I'm going to, I'm going to go with your explanation that he dodged it. But yet that's going to set up my argument later about the next, about the ping pong scene. So it's now, Janeway now erects force fields, which stops for force fields for all the exits. Yeah. Braxton is stopped by the force field. Seven catches up to him.

Again, he stopped by it. He stopped by it by running into it and bouncing off like a three stooges. It was not. Not very well done. He bounces off like a ping pong ball itself. And he then beams out again. But this time five years into the future, seven's like, Duquesne, shoot me that way too.

So she jumps after him. Now this is her fifth time that now she's beaming. Yeah, okay. So now they're five years into the future. We have the mess hall. The ping pong match is going on. Braxton runs in, chased by Future Seven. Paris is like, who are you?

And again, you're not happy with this. I get that. But here we go. Seven clearly shoots his tricorder out of his hand and shoots. Now, you do agree with me. She does connect with her phaser on Braxton in this scene. Yes? Yes.

She connects to the tricorder. But what I was about to say is she shooting him. She shoots him first. He falls back. She shoots him square in the chest. He falls back. He's still standing. She shoots again and knocks the tricorder out.

I think that. she shoots him a third time. It's sort of like, wait a minute, that phaser from 500 years in the future is like a pop gun. It's like it doesn't do anything. It's the worst phaser ever. Oh my goodness. Goodness. What? Agreed. It needs some inserts and tight shots and yes. It just needed more shots and action takes time and they must not have had the time. Nope. To film it. But anyway, yeah, Paris does call for security and he's now lost his ability to jump any further. So he's now on foot. Paris and Harry run after him. Seven goes herself. Well, actually, Future Seven is now, Future Seven, Stump

falls down to the ground. She's totally affected by her now fifth jump. And seven, current seven, goes over to future seven to have a little conversation like, hey, what's going on? And Future Seven says, it is all up to you. You must capture him. Your future. Your future depends on it. And then Future 7 is beamed out by Duquesne. We do have a shot back on the relativity where Duquesne is scanning or doing some type of diagnostic on Future 7 to make sure she's not going to croak again on that bridge. And that's the funniest thing. She's now, she's been beamed six times now, really, to go back to relativity and she's still alive.

So that's very impressive. Now we're in the Voyager corridor and Braxton is cornered. And we finally got him. He's beamed back to the relativity. And Janeway walks over to check on current seven to see if she's okay. She's asking for details. And at this point, before she can get an answer from current seven, Janeway herself gets beamed, temporarily beamed to the relativity.

So our story and our plot thickens. We're now on the relativity. Duquesne is there saying, I need your help, Janeway. I need your help to clean up this timeline. because we have 15 people that have seen Future Seven run into the mess hall. We can't have that. We need to be able to, you know, not have this incursion in the timeline. So we need you, you, Janeway, to go back before everything happened and prevent the chain of events.

Yes, yes. And Braxton, because for leniency, because he's already caught, he's agreed to provide everybody with the exact time. the exact location when he first beams in, in the corridor, before he places the temporal disruptor into the panel. And he even says, one thing that happened to me when I first beamed in is I trip, I fall forwards over, I stumble over a crew member that's on the ground. Everybody in this episode remembers a lot of detail, I've got to say. Yeah, they do.

And by the way, besides all the detail, I noticed in this particular scene that Jerry Ryan had a cold. Oh, you can hear it. You can hear it in her voice, right? And I was like, oh, I didn't really notice it in any other scenes. But in this scene, I could hear she was very stuffy. Okay. He had a cold. So good catch, good catch.

Interesting real life part of our show. Very much so. And that is what he stumbles over the crew member, that is Janeway's chance to apprehend him. He'll be sort of on the ground and without what he needs to do to repel to get her away or escape. Janeway is temporarily beam to the Voyager corridor where Torres finds her. She has to interact with Torres, past Torres. Now, did you notice in this scene? So this is back in the Cazon Battle Day.

That's the timeline we're going back to you. Balana's makeup and hair looked a little different. Looked like back to first season. Oh, okay. And no, in a good way. Okay. And she's interacting with this time jump Janeway who doesn't have a bun. And.

Oh, she should have caught that in a second, right? She says, oh, I thought you were headed to the bridge. Why doesn't she say, I've never seen your hair this way, Captain. Why doesn't she say? Captain, where's your bun of steel? I have not. Wow. I like this look on you, Captain.

It looks fabulous. She doesn't say that instead. She says he's going to get the warp core back online. And should I, should I, I think she says. She asks for advice. And then Janeway says, you know, do what you think is best. Yeah, do whatever you think is best. And she goes, aren't you heading towards the bridge?

Because no, I've got to take care of something. So then she dismisses Torres. Torres doesn't think twice about it. And then as she's running around the corner, she sees her own, she sees herself, Captain Janeway. So she hides from, yes. From herself. She hides from herself. And her other self is giving commands to another crew member.

And so then she rounds another corner and she kind of waits. And then that's when she encounters Braxton showing up and falling, just like he said he was going to fall. She apprehends him. The next shot is back on the relativity bridge, and we have Ducayne doing some calculations, and he's impressed. He goes, incursion factor 0.0036. That's better than I expected. So Janeway's action really kind of set all the timeline back so that there's only really 0.0036 of any type of diversion.

Yeah, any diversion or any, what's the term I'm trying to say? Fluctuation. Yeah, any fluctuation. there you go. And so DeKane says, all right, I'm beaming both of you back to your timelines. They're standing there next to each other. See you in the 24th century, says Janeway to seven. Seven says, I look forward to it. Or should I say backward? Janeway says, don't even get started. And that's the end of that scene and the episode. So they came out. Yes. Wow. Okay. What is your theme? I know your theme. Never do temporal.

Timeline storylines. I wrote down my theme. Time travel gives everybody a headache. Don't do it. That's my theme. Time travel stinks. It hurts my brain and every part of me. My theme, my lesson is part of being humans learning to trust.

That is going to be it. I'm going to use that. And it's true. I mean, it's true. You do have to trust. That's a huge. part of the human condition and a lot of times people don't have that trust and you need to have that so great i'll go with all right what's your rating on this i'm going to give this i'm going to give

this episode a i'm going to say 7.7 that's really right it mm-hmm no those 7.7 okay i am going to there were a lot of good guest stars in this i think uh i think jerry did a great job i think everybody he's a nice job, but I am not a fan of these timeline stories that mess with all the canon, all the continuity and with characters, and it just feels like cheating. So I'm giving it a six.

All right. Giving this a six because it had some good stuff, but not my favorite. Okay. Okay. What did you give it? 7.7. 7.7.

Okay. Our captain and admiral average rating for relativity is 7.9. Oh, thank you. Wow. Thank you. You're very close. I have been close to you in a row now, actually. Yeah. I'm pretty impressed. All right, everyone, thank you for tuning in this week to the Delta Flyers for Robbie

and I's discussion of this crazy episode, Relativity. Join us next week when Robbie and I will be discussing the episode, Warhead. Whoa, wait a minute. Warhead. Yeah. Oh, that's the next one. Okay.

Yeah. Are you getting a little feeling of something, something, something? Maybe. Okay. I'm going to give you a hint right now. Okay. Harry's in it a lot. Really?

Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Anyway, thank you, everyone. We'll see you next week. Thank you, everybody. We'll see you next week. I'm going to be able to be.