The Delta Flyers - Shattered
Episode Date: May 1, 2023The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting... at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Shattered. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.Shattered:When the Voyager is fractured into different time periods, it is up to Chakotay to convince Janeway of what has happened and return the ship to one single time-frame.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, Kate Mulgrew, Brannon Braga, Bryan Fuller, & John EspinosaAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co-Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Daniel de Rooy, Chris Knapp, Michelle Z, Janet K Harlow, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Elaine Ferguson, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Kelly Brown, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, William McEvoy, Sarah Thompson, Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Jamason Isenburg, Adm. Bill "Seoulman" Yu, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Ashley Stokey, Lori Tharpe, Mary Burch, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Dominique Weidle, Lisa Robinson, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlman, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Barbara S., Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Megan Chowning, Tae Phoenix, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Bronwen Duffield, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Jeremy Mcgraw, Ali S, Danie Crofoot, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Michael Dismuke, Jonathan Brooks, Gemma Laidler, Rob Traverse, Penny Liu, Matt Norris & Stephanie LeeAnd our Producers:James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Ann Marie Segal, Chloe E, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Jocelyn Pina, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Matthew Cutler, Maxine Soloway, Barbara Beck, Species 2571, Mary O'Neal, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Scott Lakes, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Tara Polen, Jenna Appleton, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Jennifer Jelf, Justin Weir, Mike Chow, Kevin Hooker, Ryan Benoit, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, Clark Ochikubo, David J Manske, Roxane Ray, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Cindy Holland, Will Forg, Max Wilson, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Russell Nemhauser, Lawrence Green, Christian Koch, Lisa Gunn, Lauren Rivers, Shane Pike, Jennifer B, Dean Chew, Akash Patel, James Rothwell, Corey Dennis & Cameron WilkinsThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at thedeltaflyers@gmail.com.”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Greetings, everyone.
Welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry.
As we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager,
your two hosts along this journey,
are my fellow Voyager actor, Garrett Wong,
who in 2005 played the role of Chao Pingyenne
in the TV mini-series into the West.
And myself, your favorite helmsman, Robert Duncan McNeil,
aka Robbie McDunk, R.D.D.E., whatever.
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Wow, Into the West.
I remember when you did this.
That was a big deal.
Yeah.
First of all, I would like you at some point in the next intro to give every iteration of every nickname that you've ever had in your entire life because you've listed out eight, but I want everyone on the next one.
Let's talk about Into the West real quick.
Yeah, Into the list was, I'll tell you, it was when Voyager ended, it was 2001 and there was a writer's strike that happened right after Voyager ended.
Oh, yeah.
Remember that?
Yeah, that messed a lot of stuff up.
So from the period from 2001 until 2005, that four-year span, I only had 20 auditions.
That was it.
So five per year.
The writer strike messed up with that.
And yeah, so when Into the West audition came around, I have to thank the casting director
and the casting assistant because they were amazing because I was so nervous.
I just remember I was so in my head.
It was a big deal.
It was a big adaptation of that book.
Yeah.
But I was in such a weird space in my head.
head where I felt like I couldn't book anything else. I remember I was sitting on a plane flying
somewhere to do some appearance thing for some convention and Jeff Bridges was sitting next to me.
We struck up this conversation and I said, Jeff, have you ever felt like, you know, that you
didn't belong or you felt like you weren't going to book a job or ever again after you booked a major
role or whatever? He goes, all the time. He goes, that's how I feel all the time. You know,
You're always having insecurities as an actor about career longevity and just booking other things.
So when I got in there, my reading was because I had all this pressure on myself was so quick.
Like you've seen it before when you sit in on actors reading, when they rush through it.
And it just, I was like, I was 150 miles an hour going through my lines.
And I remember the casting director looked to me and she goes, Garrett, stop for a second, breathe.
we are on your side.
We are on your side.
You don't have to convince us already.
You're at the callback already.
We love you, okay?
Yeah.
We just slow it down.
Just enjoy this.
Enjoy this process.
Enjoy saying the lines and slow it down.
Slow it slower than you actually think where it should be.
Like if you think you're slow enough, go even slower than that.
And you're still going to come off just fine.
But right now, we need a reading from you to put this down to show the producers.
that isn't at 150 miles an hour.
And I was like, okay, because it didn't seem,
to me it didn't seem like it.
I thought I was speaking normal speed to them.
But I was like, so nervous, I couldn't even tell.
Yeah.
So they really helped me.
So I just want to first of all, just say,
a shout out to both of those,
the casting director and the casting assistant,
how amazing they were on Into the West.
Yeah, super cool.
That's a who's who.
If you look at the cast there,
there's probably 50 or 50-some-odd recognizable names in that cast.
Yeah. And it was a six-part miniseries. I was cast for episode four. So the fourth part of the six-part miniseries. And funny enough, the name of this episode in the miniseries was Hell on Wheels, which ended up being the name of a series that our friend Marvin Rush became the director of photography on up here in Calgary. And guess who starred in that? Good old Anson Mount.
who's now Captain Pike in Strange New World.
So we have some pre-Star Trek alumni
before they become Star Trek alumni in Anson Mount on Helen Wheels.
But anyway, so I got the role and we filmed in New Mexico.
And at the time, Robbie, you remember my hair was long
because after the show I did it, I didn't cut my hair.
I'll just let it go and let it go.
So by time this audition came around, my hair was below my shoulders.
It was down to here.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that was something that I really wanted to book a role with my long hair.
And this was one of the,
this was the role that I played with long hair.
And you had long hair when you got Voyager.
I remember when I first met you.
Yeah.
The very first time we're standing outside the hair makeup trailers.
Yeah.
You had gone in for your consultation or whatever.
Right.
And it was right between the trailers when I first met you.
Yeah.
And I saw you.
And I was like,
Kevin from Master's.
of the universe. Yes, the master of the universe thing was because I love that movie. And now that was,
I was so excited when I met you then. I was very, very nervous to meet you too. But anyway, you saw my
long hair then and I grew it all out at the end of the show and let it go long. And I finally got to
wear. And in fact, they even added extensions. They added extensions to my hair to make it even
longer. And they braided it into it like a Chinese cue, like a, you know, a long. Because this
miniseries takes place in the 1800s. And it's the building of the railroad.
in the United States of America, where the Irish built from the East Coast and the Chinese
built from the West Coast. And they kind of built towards each other. And they were supposed
to meet at a midpoint, but the Chinese were so good, they beat the Irish. They basically went
a little further, much further than the meeting point because they kept on going. And they had
a harder job because they had to go through the Rockies. The mountains and everything. They had to blow
through like dynamite through like cliffs in order to make tunnels, you know. And that was dangerous
work because they would lower that the Chinese railroad workers would be lowered in in straw baskets
on the side of the mountain to set the charges and light it. And if they didn't pull the guy up
fast enough, he would be blown up as well. So yeah, a lot of stuff. Well, yeah, the Chinese workers
on the railroad, not just in America, but also in Canada. Yes, Canada is the history there that the
Chinese railroad workers were, I mean, a huge impact in North America. Yeah. All the rail lines. Yeah.
Definitely. And that role, it was so much fun because we were out in the middle of New Mexico and we were filming outside. It was snowing.
A lot of people mistook me for Native American. They thought it was. That was the ongoing joke. Everyone thought I was indigenous and that I was a background actor. So I got called out by a lot of different people saying, what are you doing here? I'm like, I'm getting makeup applied. No, you're supposed to be in the extra as holding pen. And I said, really? That's pretty funny. Because no.
one told me to go there. They're like, what's your name? I said, I'm playing chauping. And they're all
like, oh, you're playing chauping. I'm sorry. We thought you were native. So that was that was the
running joke. But it's super fun job and just happy to have done that role. And if you,
anyone who hasn't seen it, it's a, it's a really good miniseries. Yeah, I got great reviews.
Very cool. All right. What are we doing this week? What are we watching? Well, I'm particularly
excited about this week. It is the episode, shattered. Shattered.
Yes. All right. Cool.
Shattered. I'm excited. I like that name. Shattered. Shattered. Yeah. I don't think I even recall
that name on a script, but I can't wait to go see it. You should be excited. Let's go watch.
Let's go watch this. And for all of our Patreon patrons,
stick around for all of your bonus material. For everyone else, we'll see you in a minute.
Wow. What an episode. Wow. My goodness.
Yes.
All right.
Well, let's just jump right into our poetry synopsis of Shattered.
Yes, let's do.
Yeah, here's my haiku.
Here we go.
Chocote needs help.
Must bring the ship back in sync.
Temporal PD.
I couldn't fit prime directive in five syllables.
Prime directive.
Well,
Temporal takes only four.
Temporal takes up so many syllables.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Not easy.
Sometimes hikus aren't as easy as you think.
No, you're right.
Okay, let me hear that limerick.
Here we go with a limerick for Shatter.
Okay.
Voyager's timelines get mixed up and tossed.
Chocote must get them uncrossed.
Cesca and Borg 7 are back.
J.C. try and inoculate every gel pack.
Another bottle of cider, maybe some boundaries will be crossed.
Oh.
Thank you.
this was a big jc episode for me yeah no no i believe you one thousand percent but it's if you
want to be specific it's not just j c it's not j c it's past jay future c yeah that combo
is great these two are just they're one step away from consummating that relationship absolutely i mean
it was anyone who loves Janeway and Chacote as a couple, and again, to be specific, future Chacote
and past Janeway, they're going to love this episode because of all the moments that are in here
because there, you know, there's some tough moments. There's some moments of like, you know,
tough love. And let me shake, let me shake this into you, you know, listen to me. And a lot of
those trials and tribulations in this very short span of time, past Janeway and future
Chikote go through a lot of things.
And when you go through a lot of things with somebody else.
They actually, now that I think about it, they actually get to the point of this whole
JC dance they've been doing in this episode, in a way they didn't for seven years.
Because they literally say, do we get together?
She asked, do we get together?
She asked that.
Yes.
And he says, we could have, but we decided.
We decided not to cross boundaries.
Finally, there's an answer to.
Yes.
What were they feeling feelings?
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely they were feeling feelings, correct?
So, yeah, yeah, I mean, I was, and, you know, we are both J.C.ers.
We definitely are J.C. shippers.
So I think anyone who's a J.C. shipper probably was quite excited when they saw this episode.
Yes, it's very satisfying because at least they, they confront the issue head on and talk about it.
It's a great, yeah, a lot of fun this episode.
Okay.
Let's start off with guest stars here.
Let's go through these, right?
Um, well, this, see, here's the thing. You and I both remembered nothing beforehand.
No. But the minute the credits came up, I was like, oh my goodness. It was almost like the
credits were spoilers in a way, because the first name that pops up is Martin Rayner. And immediately
I thought, oh, gosh, they're going to be going into Captain Proton. It's chaotic. And if we haven't
already said this, because I know you, you were doing the credits beforehand. Yeah. His first credit was a 19 episode,
of Born and Bread, which seems to be a British...
British show.
BBC series, yeah.
What year was it?
19 what?
1980.
And he played the character of Bernard, which, of course, I think in England, they would
say Bernard or something like that.
Instead of Bernard, we would say it.
But that was his very, very first credit.
1980.
Yeah, 1980.
Manu and Tarami, I don't know if we've said Manu's first credit, but it is a 1997 episode of
Pacific Blue, the television series about high school cops.
Okay, we might have said that already.
Right. Scarlett Palmer's. Do we say her for a step? I don't know. Probably. Okay.
1995 episode of step by step. Remember that show? Yes, step by step. Nicholas Worth, who played Lonzac,
1966 film, for Pete's sake. For Pete's sake, yes. He's got the oldest credit. 66. Wow.
Yes. And as we mentioned before, unfortunately, Nicholas Worth passed away in May of 2007.
So his very, very long resume ended in 2007.
But again, great, great in the role of Lonzac.
Yeah.
Martha Hackett, 1986 episode of Hill Street Blues.
That was her very, very first one.
SESCA.
And the minute I saw Martha's name, I thought, what?
Cessca's in this one?
Cessca, Dr. Ciaotica.
Lonsac, the robot.
So Tarek, Ergen, as the robot, I'm sure, again.
And next we have Mark Bennington, who played adult.
Echib, Zolt Echib, his very first credit, was a 2000 episode of Diagnosis Murder.
Oh.
Yeah, diagnosis murder.
And also, this answers the question of why Manu was not cast on Picard as Echep, because I was
thinking, well, what the heck happened?
And now I realize they've already established a grown man, another actor as the
grown-up version of E-Cheb.
And this actor, Mark, is not the same actor that portrayed each adult Echb in Picard.
But because they've already established a different look, I think that's why they went with a new actor.
It makes it easier for sure.
And to be perfectly honest, I think Manu has a baby face.
I mean, his face still looks exactly like he did when he was on Voyager, except he's got gray hair.
Kind of like me.
Yeah.
Like you.
You look exactly like you did.
I look like still look like a teenager.
You're.
You'll look like a very young man.
And I am really.
Robbie, your eyes look exactly like they did when they were on the show.
Thank you.
Except I need glasses now.
Except you need glasses.
All right.
Next up we have Vanessa Branch.
Yes.
And Vanessa Branch played adult Naomi.
Her very first credit was a 1999 episode of the Nathan Lane.
of the Nathan Lane sitcom Encore, Encore.
I was like, what?
I don't remember that at all.
You don't remember Nathan Lane and Encore, Encore, okay.
No, Encore, Encore, no.
This is a very, I mean, it didn't go for seven seasons, but still, this was a TV show that he starred in.
And Vanessa Branch, also, Vanessa was the one who did the orbit gum.
She had the British accent, you know, saying like, oh, you have a very dirty, dirty mouth.
You need this gum.
So that was her.
Yeah.
Oh, that's funny.
And what's funny is that...
Orbit gum is the one that had the liquid inside, right?
No, I think this is...
Didn't orbits have like gusherers or something?
It had little taste crystals, but it wasn't liquid, though.
It was like a long piece.
It wasn't square.
Like, I know what you're talking about.
I like the square ones that have liquid inside.
Those are fun.
Yeah, that's fun.
They should bring that back.
Yes.
But I...
The funny thing is I met Vanessa.
Reese.
I never met on set, but I did.
meet her recently at a convention, but she never mentioned that she worked on Voyager.
That's what's so crazy.
That's, yeah, and it's, I kind of laugh about that because I saw her on screen.
I said, wait a minute.
Is that the same Vanessa that I met before and the convention?
It is, but she never mentioned.
And she was at the convention signing for.
Signing for other stuff she's done.
So not just for chewing gum, yeah.
Yeah, it wasn't just.
That's funny.
Voyager.
So she didn't even have a Voyager photo on her, on her table.
Otherwise, I would have said, hey, there is.
That makes me think we should do a Masters of the Universe convention.
Why hasn't there been a Masters of the Universe?
I'm going to get into that.
Brought you by the Delta Flyers?
Yes.
We should get everybody that was in.
I'll get Dolph.
I'll call up Dolph and Courtney.
I am so behind this.
This would be the pinnacle.
That would be a fun convention.
Yes.
I'm saying.
I agree.
And you know how much I love Masters.
You know how much I fond over.
I think people would come out for that.
Oh, heck yeah.
You got to be kidding me.
I think this is something that we should definitely work on.
I agree.
All right.
We also have Anthony Holliday who portrayed Relat.
And I'm guessing he played one of the Cason, maybe.
Maybe.
Okay.
1986 episode of Dangerous Minds, the television series, not the movie, though.
So that's his very first credit.
Wow.
Okay.
And Terrell or Terrell, Clayton, who played
Andrews. He's the guy in the hallway. In the hallway, yeah, Andrews. I feel like that was
looped or something. Yes. That was, we'll get to that. His first line may have been looped. His very
first one was very loopy. It's not fitting. And okay, but his first, first credit. Yes.
Was the sci-fi television series that Jerry Ryan's was on before Voyager, Dark Skies.
Yes.
Yes. A 1996 episode of Dark Skies, Terrell Clayton was on that. And so was Jerry Ryan. I'm curious if he was actually in the scene with Jerry. Yes. Yeah, that would be pretty interesting. Yeah. All right. Story by Mike Sussman and Michael Taylor. I was right. Teleplayed by Michael Taylor. I picked Michael Taylor. Every time I pick something right. I feel like I have to go buy a lottery ticket. I mean, I feel like, look at that. I got it. Yes. Directed. Well, we didn't get the director right.
Neither one of us. No, but it was in the back of my mind. I was. Yeah.
I was Terry Wendell.
I was going to say that.
I remember when we looked up Terry's credits,
and I was surprised how many episodes he did.
I would have guessed before with this podcast
that he directed two episodes.
Right.
And when you looked it up, six or seven.
Oh, yeah, easily.
Several Voyager episodes.
Yeah, but he didn't direct anything but Voyager.
It's weird.
Like, he directed a bunch of-
No, no Enterprise, just Voyager.
I'm wondering who the Connect was.
Like, who knew Terry to begin with?
I don't know.
You know, was it an old relationship?
I think it was a vis-effects.
Did Rick Berman run over Terry Wendell's foot in a parking lot and say, I owe you?
And Terry said, well, give me a directing job.
Who knows?
Yeah.
Strange.
Okay.
Yeah, no clue.
All right.
Do you want to start off?
Let's get into this episode.
All right.
So here we go.
Opening shot of Voyager flying through space.
Yeah.
My comment is it was a very CG shot.
It did not look like the models.
I was like, oh, I like the models better.
They put the models into storage in season seven.
I think they were trying a lot of new shots at this point because CG, they had built this, this Voyager CG asset.
And so they were trying it in a lot of episodes to get some new looks.
I like the models better.
The model's better.
And plus, even though I still look like a teenager, even though I still look like a very young man, I like the old school stuff.
How much was that model?
the actual Voyager model do you think to build the physical model the one that they use seasons
one through six that one i would guess back in those dollars at that time at least 50 000
70 80 000 this is in those dollars yeah wow but i would imagine the cg model was close to the same
cost maybe uh but you can do once you build the cg model you can have you can use it over and over again
Over and over again.
Yeah.
The physical model, you have to shoot every time you want to get a different angle or something.
Right.
So less manpower involved with the CG model.
Once you get the asset.
The asset itself.
Yeah, that digital asset built.
You can move it around like a video game, however you want.
However you want it.
Okay.
Yeah.
You see the ship flying by.
We cut into cargo bay.
There's Naomi and Eichep working on a puzzle sitting on the floor.
Adorable, by the way.
Adorable, but.
I wish they gave Eichib other wardrobe than that.
He's wearing the same clothes in every scene that we've seen him in.
Yeah, he always wears the same clothes.
That same color.
Yeah, he seemed very slow to me, each of him in the scene.
Yeah, almost like he was not there.
It was very slow.
I was like, dude, pick up your, pick up the face.
Say words.
But it was very slow.
I think I know what you mean.
I think like when they're playing around.
And then Chakotay enters, he very slowly gets up and very slowly looks over and says,
Commander like that.
It was a very, everything was just.
It was like in slow motion.
Yeah, delayed reaction.
I don't know.
I agree.
I agree.
But I like when Naomi says, I need a green piece for two Vox ears.
Yeah.
I like that that was cute.
The two Voxys.
That looks like two Vox ears.
That looks like two Vox ears.
Exactly.
It's cute.
That was cute.
But Chikote comes in.
Echcheb apologizing.
for the condition of the cargo bay.
Messy, messy.
Yeah, messy, he says.
It's not that messy.
They're just doing a puzzle.
He says he's been tutoring Naomi, and he does say,
please don't tell seven.
Don't tell her, because I was supposed to be writing a paper.
And then Chocote is like, well, I'll keep your secret if you keep mine.
He says, don't tell Nelix where I stashed the Antarian cider,
because I only have a few bottles left.
And I was like, wait a minute, seven seasons.
and he's been stashing like his his cider alcohol his stash in the this that we finally have
learned this how many bottles did he have by the way if he still got him after seven seasons yeah but
he also mentions that this is not the replicated stuff so this is like original
this is original rude cider from ontarian whatever whatever yes but echeb says well if you want to
really keep it secret you should hide it with the salvage board parts because neel
will never go looking for it there because it gives them the creeps, which I thought was funny.
It was funny.
Yeah, he'll never inventory that box of, yeah, Borg stuff.
Borg stuff.
I also thought they're having this conversation in front of Naomi.
Yeah.
I'm like, you guys are talking about lying and hiding things, and there's a child right here.
Like, really?
Okay, okay.
Couldn't you just step away from the kid for a minute when you're talking about lying to people?
very bad role models both of them okay anyway we go to Janeway's quarters next she's sitting on the
floor just like the puzzle I was like is this a theme everybody sits on the floor this episode
she's got pieces and parts not a not a puzzle she's got replicator parts yes to Cicote comes in
with the Antarian cider and I was like oh romance time yeah janeway says uh you're late
Yeah. And she says, but so is dinner. And we realized that she's broken the replicator again.
He says, let me guess. You burned the roast again. I love the callback to when she burnt that
roast in earlier episode. Yeah. She called the replicator a glorified toaster back back in the day.
And it has never forgiven her. That's what James says. Very funny. Very funny line.
Chikote says, I didn't realize the replicators hold grudges, which I thought was funny.
Yeah. Yeah. And they're already.
really flirty in the scene so this is current timeline yeah this is now and they are really really
flirty yeah which i just feel like i'm gonna spoiler at the end of the episode near the end
they do talk about how they made this decision just to be friends they shake hands later in the
episode so i'm like why are they still playing with fire here if they've made this decision but
anyway they're still super flirty they can't help it um he does mention he ran into each of
Naomi and says something about
like, well, Echab's going to run this ship
someday. I was like, really?
Really? Like, Harry's not
going to run this ship? I know. I was like
really proven
themselves as
you know, a reliable,
smart, heroic
leader type person. Yeah.
Echab is going to be your leader? Yeah.
I don't know. I think that chain of,
I think that chain of succession would go
Jane Wach, Cote,
two Vok.
Tovok, yes, agreed.
Harris,
Kim.
So, I mean, you know, there's already about eight people before Echb easily.
Before Echab, yeah, I just, I don't give Echab that much credit at this point in our show that he's running the ship.
Yeah.
But they toast.
Jamie does mention, I'm not ready to retire yet.
And suddenly there's a noise.
She calls the bridge.
Harry responds from the bridge.
He's in the captain's chair again.
The Capitane's chair.
You got in that captain's chair a lot.
I did.
I did.
And it looked like Harry was very comfortable.
Very comfortable there.
Hint, hint, nudge, nudge, secret hideout.
Harry says there's some kind of gravimetric surge,
overloading the dampeners.
And seven is trying to isolate it.
But the warp core is destabilizing.
So we're into problems very quickly.
Janeway and Chiquet leave.
They head out.
Chakotay is going to engineering.
Janeway is going to the bridge. Then we cut over to astrometrics, and Seven says there's a
rift opening in front of them emitting high levels of neutrinos and chronotons. What's a chronotone?
It sounds like something I put on my salad. I'm going to have a, I'll have the salad buffet,
and I'll put extra chronotons on it. I don't know if that would be good for me.
Sir, would you like chronotons with your salad?
Exactly. Uh, yeah.
So now we're on the bridge.
Yes.
And Janeway was walking in off the turbo left.
And Jamie says, very still in the chair.
Yeah, Harry's still in the chair.
Kim says on screen.
Janeway says, what is it?
So now we're looking at this crazy nebula.
And Kim says, I don't know.
That is a looped line if I've ever heard one.
It was just my energy was like, I don't know.
I felt like I was Echab in that scene.
I don't know.
You and Echab had the same dinner.
Same slow, sort of like, we ate the same food that slowed our metabolism down.
Exactly.
You had chronotons.
We had.
You must have had some chronotons on your salad.
We had chronotons.
Okay, good.
That's what it is.
Don't eat chronotons when you have to be on the bridge acting like the captain.
It'll slow you down.
Big time.
No one needs that.
Yeah.
So Harry doesn't know what it is.
The ship is still shaking.
We go to engineering.
Chikote Balana working on it.
Belana says we're losing.
containment everybody out so we feel like this something's gonna bad is going to happen balana's trying
to save everybody she's so thoughtful i love belong then we go out to space we see that voyager is hit
by this giant lightning bolt kind of thing and this and by the way whatever effect they use on
this this anomaly or this spatial rift or whatever whatever effect they used looked up very
borg to me i feel like they're using some of the same visual effects
elements because it felt i didn't get that okay oh really yeah you felt like a borgy kind of
yeah but none of it was green though none of the color was were green right you know how they had
that fluorescent green for borg stuff so maybe not but i feel like sometimes the viz effects people
create some textures or you know things elements that they'll put into different and they'll reuse
it they'll reuse it yeah that one felt to save some money felt a little reused okay all right they're
hit by this lightning bolt and then we go to engine
We see Chacote by the warp core and on that panel, yeah, on the panel by the warp core and everybody's out pretty much except for Chacote at this point and Chacote goes flying back.
Oh, he's blown back.
He's blown back.
And I did make a note that shot behind him was definitely a stunt double.
It was a little, I was not Beltran.
It was a stunt double was kind of me.
Yeah?
Not great.
And it felt like a windup.
It felt like he was it a stunt double with a digital butt crack or was it just a stunt double?
It was not, it did not have a digital butt crack that I'm aware of.
All right.
I was not investigating that deeply.
Fine.
Anyway, so you didn't like, you didn't like Tocay's stunt double.
I feel like it could have been a better hit or something.
Like they should have put him on a wire and had him fly.
He just yanked them back.
Yeah.
He just sort of like did a lean forward and fell back.
It didn't even look like Robert from behind.
Let's get to what he looked like when he was on the ground, that close-up.
Yes, we cut him on the ground.
Balana asks the transporter room to beam Chikote to sickbay because his face is messed.
Well, it's old on one side.
So it's not injured.
Old on one side.
It's almost like, what is going on?
He's 95 years old on the right side of his face.
Yeah.
He's half oldy.
he's half oldie yeah so one half of him or halfote halfote yeah he's a halfote he's half
he's halfote i like it all right we go to sick bay doc scanning chakote he's saying welcome back
chakotay as his eyes open up i love this well he didn't say it so nicely though his his tone was
very sour and i thought to me i'm like what's going on with the doctor right here but then we learn
we learn it's old it's older doc or yeah he's when he was still grumming
Yeah. So good job by Bob. Bob really nailed it on that one. Yeah, he did great.
Tocote asked what happened. Doc says he was transported here in his body, was in a state of temporal
flux. Yeah. And he says you have the liver of an 80-year-old man and the kidneys of a two-year-old.
And I'm like, that Antarian cider is rough on the liver. He's had too much of that Antarian cider.
Or could it have been the chronotons that he might have had on his side?
Might have been the chronotons on the salary. Yeah. All right. But the doc has.
created a chronotone serum, he says.
Yes, look at that.
Counteract the chronotons on the salad.
Yeah.
And I love how the doc says, like, in any other place, I would receive an award for how well I was.
Didn't it, doesn't he say that?
Yes.
Yeah, it's just another day.
Yeah, anywhere else this antidote would have earned me a prestigious award, but I'm Voyager, just another day in the life of the underappreciated EMH.
Yeah.
That's old doc.
It is.
He's grown and changed a bit.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Chacote then asks about the others, you know, were there other injuries?
And Doc says he doesn't know of anyone else that was injured.
Well, Chikote says, like, hey, come with me.
Let's go find if anyone else is injured.
And that's what the doctor says, like, well, how am I going to do that?
I am in crap.
I can't leave here at all.
And he says, well, where's your mobile emitter?
And that's when we realize, this is old doc for sure.
He's like, my what?
And I love that final interchange.
Kote just looks at him. He doesn't explain it. He just says, I'll be back. And as he's walking out,
the doctor quickly follows him to the door and says, wait, tell me about this mobile emitter. And
Bob did that very well. It was very good. I wondered in this moment, I was like, there are so many
scenes with a doctor where he's chasing someone out of sick bay with the last word. Yes.
And I was like, I wonder when that started. Like, did Bob sort of add that or did the writers, was
That's from the writers that they sort of thought, oh, the doctor's always going to be calling
out after with a funny line as somebody's leaving.
But it's definitely a thing, a theme.
I'm going to start calling him Robert T.L.W. Picardo.
Robert, the last word, Picardo.
Yes, because you're right.
That's his character.
That says his bit.
That's his brand.
Yeah.
He's always tossing out something as somebody's leaving.
Yes.
We do go out in the hallway and into a turbo lift.
Chucote's carrying a med kit.
And in the turbo lift, we see some kind of energy surge go through.
Yeah, he's heading to the bridge, right?
The surge goes through and guess what?
That kit disappears.
The medical kit disappears.
And he's like, what?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
So we know something's up here.
Yeah.
We go to the bridge.
There's a bunch of crew, hard at work here.
I feel like it was different faces than we normally see on the bridge.
It was a subtle little hint.
I was like, wait a minute.
Yeah.
There's a lot of different faces here.
We're going to learn this is back pre-caretaker.
Pre-leaving Alpha Quadrant.
Yeah.
Pre-Delta quadrant.
Let's say that.
Yeah, pre-Delta quadrant.
So there's a different crew kind of a lot of different faces.
Tuvok's not there.
We learn why because they haven't reconnected.
Uh, but then I was thinking, did you see, Harry's there.
Yeah.
So Harry and Tom came on to Voyager.
So you should have been there too, old time, right?
But wait a minute, were you?
But I didn't get the assignment until we went into the Delta Quadrant.
So I'm, I'm on the ship.
If you're there, I'm there.
But I'm just kind of wandering around.
You're an observer, remember?
You're an observer.
So you don't have.
I figured I was in the mess hall
ordering more tomato soup
that's what I was doing
I just had this image
just eating and got bowls of tomato soup
just just just
just you sitting there with a beard
because you've been there so long
and it's one empty bowl after another
of tomato soup that's what Tom's doing
he's eating tomato soup and having
chronotons on a salad yes
you can put chronotons in your tomato soup too
those they get them they get nice and soggy
inside there they're really good yeah love those chronotones okay uh so he grabs jacote walks on the bridge
and he's looking around and there's a lot of hubbub and he quickly grabs a passing crew member who
just happens to be harry kim and he says harry what's going on and harry's like sir i'm afraid
i don't know you and janeway immediately is like take him into custody but it's funny because
harry just walks away from the whole thing he lets other people do the dirty work he's not gonna he's not
going to put this guy into custody.
Yeah.
I also loved when we see Janeway that she stands up from the captain's chair and she's got
the bun of steel.
Yeah.
And it's so funny.
We've made so much fun of that, but it was almost like, wow, it was almost like nostalgic
to see that.
It was like, goodness gracious.
There it is.
I kind of missed the bun of steel.
So yeah, it's the bun of steel.
He calls her Catherine.
Chakotay calls her Catherine.
She says, ah, it didn't realize we were on a first name basis.
And she says that they were just about to chase their ship, the marquee ship into the badlands
when their systems began malfunctioning.
So this is just before caretaker.
Right.
Well, Chacote does say, check your sensors.
And Kim says there are some fluctuations in the environmental control.
So that sort of peaks Janeway's interest.
She's like, hmm.
But not enough for her to say, don't take him to the brig.
She says, take them to the brig.
So get them out of here.
And so he's escorted off of the bridge.
As they're in the turbo lift, the two security personnel are flanking Chikote.
But as they're heading towards the bridge, guess what?
Another energy fluctuation kind of comes across.
And both of those security personnel absolutely disappear.
They're gone.
Just like the MedKit earlier, these guys disappear.
And I feel like this was the clue that these energy barriers are sort of things we travel through
because both times he went through it, he was on the move somewhere.
So you start to go, oh, this isn't coming to him.
No, he's going through something, exactly.
He then halts the turbo left, and he says, engineering, so he heads straight to engineering.
Wonderful scene.
The minute he walks in, all we see are Kazan and Suska.
And again, we absolutely adore Martha Hackett.
So seeing her again.
So fun to see her again.
So fun, yeah, this whole episode is a walk-down memory lane for me.
It really is.
Yeah, greatest hits.
Voyager it feels like so now he's gone through one of these barriers these temporal barriers into
the time where uh what were the episodes called when sesca and the kazon took over this ship
yeah basics part one and two basically voyager was taken over by seska and majcala played by anthony
d'alongas who you worked on masters of the universe with and who i was taught stage combat with
at usela love anthony he's awesome yeah so that's that time period but the very first thing that
happens to Jocote is he gets hit in the face with the back of the rifle butt of the phaser rifle
but by the way I hate those rifles the Kazon rifle you don't like those at all they look like
trumpets trumpets with like the the trumpet turned the wrong way or something or they look like what
it's got tubes and yeah well I mean to me it looks kind of steampunky so I wasn't so I wasn't
I didn't have that much of a problem with it but it is a little kind of like if McGuiver
was to come up with a phaser rifle.
That's what he would make, basically.
But that rifle butt in the face immediately.
And this entire scene, I mean, when Setska slap backhands him, I kept thinking, this is like
Harry Kim.
This is like the Harry Kim experience.
Harry Kim is always the one to be tortured, to be knocked down.
And I'm not trying to say this to be mean, but there was a bit of a satisfaction in me
watching this, knowing someone else is going through this treatment.
It's not just Harry.
Thank goodness.
Well, they hits him, then SESCA heals him.
Yeah, she kills him.
But then moments later, she slaps him.
I'm like, hit, heal, hit, heal.
Like, which is it?
Make up your mind.
Oh, my gosh.
But Cicote tries to lie to her and says he's got a dozen officers with him.
He's locked her out of all the key systems.
Yeah.
And they're taking control.
And Cessca basically threatens to kill him if he doesn't give her access to the controls.
again. So he says, okay, I'm going to have to use a console. They let him get over there. And then
he disarms one of the Ks-on, kills one of them with his own trumpet rifle. And then he causes
some kind of system cooling breach or something. He climbs up to the second level and then
tosses the rifle to finish climbing out and sees that there's a ripple up there.
Right. So he goes. He knows. So he goes through that ripple.
and crosses through that barrier.
Yeah.
And Seska can't see him anymore.
Yeah, but he can still see her.
That's what's so crazy.
But I just want to say, I just want to bring up that right before he throws that rifle,
Cessca is like, don't make me kill you, Chakote.
And she's running after him with that.
She's right there.
She is right there.
He is still climbing up there.
And then she fires and misses.
I mean, you, it should have went right up his bottom.
That's because it's a trumpet rifle.
They don't fire straight.
Nate, another problem with a trumpet rifle.
I wrote down, I wrote down in my notes.
She has the same aiming abilities as a stormtrooper from the original Star Wars movie
because they can't hit anything either.
So she is clearly not good at aiming anything.
No.
Yeah, so she misses Chikotik and see through this barrier.
Then we cut over to sick bay.
And the doctor is pacing back and forth when suddenly a little panel opens on the bottom
of a wall by the biobeds.
And I remember when that panel opened up,
I remember some of these scenes
where we had to crawl in the backside of sets.
And outside of Sickbay was just the stage floor.
It was like the old paramount, you know, soundstage.
Right.
And they'd always put just like a little crappy little half wall or something.
So you're literally when we would come in those scenes.
Yeah.
It was so weird because you're like out on the soundstage and they call action.
And then you crawl around the corner and suddenly you're in the ship.
It was just, I just had these, like, visceral memories of those kind of scenes where it was, it was very funny.
It's true.
And you're standing outside the set and you're just smelling like plywood smell.
Dust and blackwood and darkness.
And then suddenly you crawl through into, oh, we're on a spaceship.
There's some grip, like just standing next to you outside there.
Drinking up.
Lightstands.
But anyway, the panel opens up.
The doc says, who is?
whoever you are, I suggest
you surrender, I'm armed, and he
picks up a hypospray. Very
cute. Chikote
comes crawling out from that sound
stage behind the wall.
And the doctor
asks, you know, wants to know what's going on.
He tells, Chikote says, what is the
star date? And doctor says
star date 49, 496,
24. And
Chikote is now putting this all
together. That the ship has
somehow been fractured into
different timelines that different parts of the ship exist in different time periods.
And his mobile emitter did not come online until a year later from 4-9-624 from that start date.
And when he brings up the Kazon or in engineering, the doctor is very worried about Kazon.
But Chakotay does say it seems like he's the only one that can cross between these timelines.
Right.
Because of that serum.
That's what he says.
He says, it must have made me immune.
Normal tech won't pass through the barriers.
So then he asked the doctor, can you replicate a chronoton-infused hypospray casing
that uses the same principles that you use to make the serum?
So he's basically trying to figure out how to utilize what the doctor.
Yeah, the same medicine the doctor came up with that helped him be immune.
Maybe he can, you know, every time I see chrononton, I'm going to think of crude.
now because of you.
And can you replicate a crouton-infused hyperspray casing?
Next time I go to a restaurant, I'm going to ask if the salad has chronotons on it.
And the waiter's going to be like, I'm sorry, what?
Yeah, no, chronotons.
Oh, do you mean croutons?
No, chronotons.
I suggest everyone out there, please buy this experiment next time you're at a restaurant,
order a salad with chronotons, and try to correct them and see how it goes.
Let us know.
Please don't abuse your server that way.
Please.
Okay.
Yeah.
So the doctor says he can.
He can replicate that.
Yes.
Because Chikote wants to take some of that with him because this is the only way that we can help.
Put this ship back together.
He needs someone to help him.
So in essence.
He needs someone to help him and he needs more of this chronotone infusion.
Yeah.
So we go to the bridge.
He walks out, Chikote walks out on the bridge holding a hypisprice spray.
So the doctor must have given him some of this medicine.
That's helping him go through the barriers.
Right.
Kim sees this immediately.
He draws his phaser.
Yep.
I looked very serious when I drew the phaser.
Also, they did my hair differently.
It didn't look different.
It didn't even look like old school.
Really?
Pre-Alpha quadrant hairy hair.
No, it didn't match it.
So I was like, oh, that's interesting.
But it's okay.
It is what it is.
If you had had a bun of steel in the first season,
then you could have just had a bun, and that would have been easy.
I think we all should have had buns of steel.
Like every crew member should have had a bun of steel season one.
That would have been fun.
That would have been nice.
Okay, so Chikote comes through.
He tries to explain about these barriers, but Janeway's not buying it.
But that's when he starts throwing out all the stuff he knows about her, right?
Now, yes, I got to say in this scene, how do Beltran historically on our show?
yes had trouble remembering his lines yeah i think he did here he oh i thought he nailed this
scene oh oh i thought you're going to tell me that you thought that he did not this scene he had
these long speeches about the albatani posting and decks misaligning with positronic relays
he had all this tech he had a lot this scene he nailed it there's some other scenes like
when we go to astro metrics and stuff with janeway and seven where he didn't have so much to
say and it was back to old old beltrane you can see him sort of oh i didn't i didn't spend much
time on this and she's kind of struggling through some of them but this one there's a the best
uh beltrane memorization of large speeches i think in the entire series that he
wow okay talks about molly he talks tells jane way about molly the irish setter yeah you rescued
it from the pound and tarasetti that she was the run to the litter you
He talks about you love music, but you never learn to play an instrument.
You really regret that.
He learned all these lines.
He did.
And it worked to learn all these lines because Janeway buys it.
Yeah.
And Janeway says, ready room.
Let's go.
Head to my ready room.
I need more about this in the ready room.
Yeah.
I don't talk more about chronotons.
Exactly.
Yeah.
We cut in the ready room.
She's scanning the hypospray.
She said, you know, a fascinating story.
But is that a Ferengi say, a good lie is easier to believe than
the truth. Right. I like that
Ferengi saying. I don't know if that's a real
Ferengi saying. But she never
ever, ever uses frangy sayings on the show.
But this is back in time. Back in time.
Yeah. Well, so she's still
wary. She's wary of him holding this
random hypo spray. So she says
to the one security guy that's in the room with them,
she says, have Mr. Kim run a full spectral analysis.
For all I know, this is poison.
And Mr. Chkote is trying to assassinate
me. But right as he's handing
this hypo spray over
to, um,
the ND over there, the background actor,
that's when Chacote grabs her hand
and does this little loopy loop and he's holding her from behind.
Yeah, little dancing with the stars move.
And he's like, back away, get back, get back.
And he says, it is poison.
I'm going to kill her.
I'm going to kill her.
Lower your weapon.
Lower your weapon.
And the way they kind of disappear around the corner was just,
it was almost comical the way it happened to me when I was watching that.
It was either comical or she was enjoying it.
Like, he grabbed her tight and she kind of had like a, oh, he's so strong.
He's like, oh, he's so strong.
I can feel his biceps.
There's always some J.C.
And there's a.
Even when he threatens to kill her, she's still can't help it.
Okay.
Now they're in the corridor.
And this is where Andrews says his looped line.
It's very little.
her goal and it was almost like that TNG episode code of honor that I dislike so much when
they come down on the planet and the one security the one guy looks at Tasha Yard and says
your security chief is a woman it was the same kind of like low gunpow voice that Andrews had
it might have been the same loop actor because you know they often had the loop group loop some of
the smaller rules it might have it might have been that same same loop person
and okay
Chacote says
lower your weapon
and this is when
Chak Chacote
sort of grabs her
and starts walking
backwards
and they go through
the time
yes they do
I'm gonna
can I call it a time
fissure
I call it a barrier
of a time barrier
okay so they go through
the time barrier
and they disappear
and that's when
Andrew says
captain
and Janeway sort of like
yells back
Andrews but you know
she can't hear
them any longer. So Andrew says, Andrews to the bridge, I need help here. I don't think that was
looped. I think that was his voice. No, I think that might have been him. Yeah. That's why it was so weird
that first line. Yeah, the first line was so naughty. It didn't sound anything like that actor.
So Chikote says he can't hear you. We moved into a different time frame.
Andrew says, you know, just scan the area once the other the other security personnel arrive.
He says, scan the area, but don't go past that bulkhead because he knows that's where they
disappeared. But this whole interchange between Janeway and Chicoe.
you know, where he's still holding her.
I want to hear what you want to say.
All right.
I'm going to say this.
It was, it was like watching like a telenovela.
Exactly.
It was very soap operating.
I was like, are they going to kiss or are they going to kill each other?
But I got to say, the cheesiness of it made me love it.
I love this episode because of how this episode to me is sort of like Los Angeles resident.
real estate architecture.
Like, you know how in L.A., there's not one type of house.
There's Spanish.
There's Cape Cod.
There's old southern plantation style.
Everything is in there.
It's a hodgepodge.
It's a mishmash.
I would call it that.
I loved it.
A gumbo.
This is a gumbo episode, but I love this gumbo.
And as cheesy as soap opery as just this.
And it's only in this section in the very beginning where he's still holding her.
Well, he's holding her.
and he says, stay or go, it's your choice.
He's like seducing her there.
Yeah, yes, yes.
And then she starts to try to walk away at one point and he blocks her with his body.
They're very close.
He's like, without me, you'll be walking into a future that you won't know nothing about, you know?
And then she's like, oh.
And by the way, I made a note as they're talking, often Janeway is not even looking in Chakotay's eyes.
She's looking at his mouth moving and his body.
And there's a lot of body scanning going on.
Interesting.
And they do say when it comes to nonverbal communication, when you look at someone
else's mouth or not their eyes, other parts of their body, it means you are sexually attracted.
You are centrally, you are turned on.
You are aroused.
Well, there's a lot of bodies.
There's some major arousal going on here.
They step out of that corridor.
They go to a different corridor.
And I don't like how when Chacote says the astramatrix,
lab. That's where they're going. And Jainway's like, what? As to Metrics, we don't have that.
And Chukotay says, Harry Kim designed it or will design it.
Janeway's reaction was like, Harry Kim? Like, could he ever have enough knowledge to do something
like that? I mean, it was absolutely hilarious. But then Chikote stands up for him and says, well,
you know, Harry is new to his job here, but he's going to become one of your best people.
Yeah. Yeah. That's true. And she says our people. No, no, he's. He's,
He says he's going to become one of our best people.
Yes.
And then she says, wait, what our people?
Our people?
Yeah, that's when the cat comes out of the bag.
He's going to be Janeway's first officer.
And Janeway's just trying to process this, this whole thing.
She's not sure what to believe, to be perfectly honest.
Can I say something, though?
So the temporal prime directive is going to come up in a little while.
And I thought, Chikote suddenly, he's been spilling all of these beans.
and then suddenly the one thing like oh they went to the delta compartment can't talk about that
but he's talked about harry kim yeah you've told her pretty much yeah like come on dude i guess
it's pick and choose cherry picks what is okay and what is yeah and what's not all right um yeah
but they talk about the borg and she does say in this scene she says you know what keep it to
yourself the less i know about the future the better so she's got a nod to the temporal
prime directive here.
A little bit.
We go through another quarter.
There's smoke and bodies in the floor.
So they're jumping timelines.
Yeah.
The ship is at Red Alert.
Yeah.
She starts scanning, detect some active neurogenic fields.
Chikote says, well, this could be the day the telepathic picture plant put us all into
comas.
Or it could be the time the aliens invaded our dreams.
Again, he's spilling the beans on so many things.
Unbelievable.
So he's telling her all these things.
The only thing he's not saying is what episode, what the name of the episode is.
That's the only thing he's not saying.
Yes.
But it does start to feel like the highlights of Star Trek Voyager, the seven-year journey.
It is.
That's why I love this episode.
They walk into Astometrics and immediately we see two crew members.
We do not know who they are, but soon enough, we do know.
It's adult Naomi Wildman, adult E. Cheb.
and they look shocked because we find out in this scene that both Chikote and Jainway have passed away
17 years ago.
So we are under the assumption that they have not made it back to the Alpha Quadrant.
They're still en route, but 17 years later.
And now that I think about that, I was really, really waiting unbated breath for someone to chime in,
you know, someone to call.
With what happened.
Yeah, or just, yeah, just, you know, a hail from the bridge, you know, Captain Tuvok to Naomi Waldman to, you know, to Lieutenant Wildman.
I was waiting for that because I want to know who is captain now.
I mean, next in succession after Chakotay would be Tuvac because he's lieutenant commander, right?
So he would be the next.
So I'm assuming it was too.
But we never find out.
We never find out.
But we do find out.
If Janeway and Chikote died 17 years ago, then how are they in Prodigy?
interesting
interesting very funny very interesting
we do find out that in 17 years
the sensors on the sensors in astrometrics have been upgraded
to the point where they can detect temporal things
so that's how good they are
but they also talk about how too bad seven's not here
and Janeway's like seven because she doesn't know who this is
but Chiquotay says, well,
seven someone who really knows about temporal mechanics
more than all of us.
But unfortunately, she hasn't been found.
And evidently, the area where the, what do you call this,
the, like the surge, the surge that sort of blew out,
yeah, the surge that blew out the warp core.
The surge that knocked Chacote unconscious,
it also, that it happened in their time frame.
So it's shattered, it shattered, what did it say?
It's like this section was the focal point and it was obliterated, this focal point of the surge.
Right.
So the surge happened and knocked out Chakotay in his time frame, but in this time frame,
it knocked out a section of the ship that unfortunately seven of nine was working in at the time.
So she is MIA at this point.
Yeah, and too bad they can't find her because she would be more help with the temporal
mechanic than anyone else they could work a lot faster yeah Naomi does say to Janeway that when she
was little there's nothing she wanted more than to be the assistant to captain Janeway and uh I love that
she said that in this scene oh yeah she didn't she wanted to be the assistant to the captain and
Icheb stops Chakote and says you know I never did tell Nelix where you hid that cider which was just
very sweet let's it's a nice scene with the older Naomi and Icheb to kind of connect
some dots there. It was nice.
Definitely.
Back in the corridor, Janeway wants to know why they're looking for the seven person,
she says in cargo bay. What's she doing in cargo bay?
She thought that that's where she works.
Yeah.
And Chikota is like, no, she spent a lot of time regenerating there.
Yeah.
And they go into basically a Borgified cargo bay.
Yeah.
With green mood lighting and lots of, it's club Borg.
And this is, yeah, it's club Borg, but it's a throwback.
to the episode Scorpion
where we first encounter
7 of 9 essentially, so
season 4. Yeah, and
Janeway wants to be filled in on this timeline
and Chikote
spills the beans because there's no
temporal prime directive
yet. And he says...
Where is that temporal prime directive police officer
that should be right there? I am
that person. You are that person.
But Chikote says that they had a
temporary alliance with a board.
And then seven shows up, full board.
asking, you know, what has happened to Voyager?
And I wrote, I'm sure Jerry Ryan was thrilled to get back in the full board makeup.
I'm going to say this, though.
It looked better the second time around.
Yes, it did look better.
The wardrobe, the makeup, it just looked better all around compared to season four.
I will say, I felt like Jerry Ryan's performance was more human than her first time she was the full board.
Interesting.
I felt like it was a little less Borg this time.
Okay, okay.
If we were in that timeline, I feel like she should have been super robot Borg.
Yeah.
Chikote introduces them.
Seven explains how a Borg vessel can withstand these temporal stresses while it trans warp.
And the Borg cube keeps all the sections in temporal sync.
by projecting a chronoton field
throughout the vessel.
Those chronotons are so important.
And tasty.
And tasty.
Yes.
So she explains how Borg vessels
are specifically designed
with these kinds of
chronoton field conduits or something.
Which protects them.
It keeps them in sync.
That's the key.
Yeah.
Right.
And then she says they could install
similar conduits throughout Voyager.
but they would need a big powerful field, a sufficient energy field.
And this is when they were putting all this together.
And if they could do this, if they could create this kind of link throughout the ship,
that Chocote could have a small window where he could try to counteract the warp core reaction.
It's a very tricky plan.
Yeah.
But they don't have a way to get these conduits in different parts of the ship because of these.
barriers. And then Janeway says, wait a minute, bio neural circuitry. This is her warp particles
moment. Yeah, it's like a nervous system. It runs through the entire ship. And if we could
inject the gel packs all around the ship with that serum that could create a similar kind
of chronotone field like the Borg ship. Yeah. So that's the mission. Go team. That's the mission.
Oh, and at the end, seven is, seven says, well, there's only two of you. That's very inefficient. My plan
is I think that we should assimilate you
and then assign other drones underneath you.
So Jayway's like, no, I don't like that plan.
No, we won't be assimilating anybody.
See ya.
Thanks, but no, thanks.
I'm going to go hang out with this, like, hunky guy.
Very handsome man.
That kind of held me so tightly.
Yeah.
From my ready room into the corridor.
And now we're friends.
Yeah.
We're back in the corridor.
Janeway says that was weird, basically.
Yeah.
The Cote says, you know, you're going to, you're going to find a
way to deal with this Borg in the future.
Yeah.
Again, breaking the temporal prime directive.
Yeah.
He doesn't give her details, though.
No, but is he really breaking it if he doesn't give her details?
I think he's breaking it.
Okay.
I'm on team Chikote is a rule breaker.
Okay.
And by the way, they're leaving there.
They're walking with their shoulders like bumping into each other.
Yeah.
They just met for God's sakes.
Yeah.
I mean, they're already.
They're already close.
Yep.
Chiquote then rattles off this quote.
In the middle of the journey of our life, I found myself astray in a dark wood where the straight road had been lost, which is a quote from Dante's Inferno.
And Janeway is like, wait a minute.
I didn't know Dante's Inferno was on the Maki reading list.
And Chocote says, actually, I borrowed a your copy.
And Janeway says, my fiance gave me that book as an engagement gift.
I've never lent it to anyone.
J.C. Moment right here.
Oh, my gosh.
Never lent it to anyone?
It was from her fiance?
Yeah.
Okay.
Chocote does say he agrees with Dante that if you always see the road ahead of you,
it's not worth the trip.
Yeah.
So she's very impressed your soldier and a philosopher, she says.
Your intelligence file does not do you justice.
Flirt, flirt, flirt, flirt.
Flirty, flirt, flirt flibes all over the place.
We go to sick bay.
the doc is suiting up Janeway with a belt that's got all these vials.
Well, yeah, but let's be honest.
What does that look like to you?
It looks like a shot for shotgun shells.
That's what it is.
It's an ammo belt for shotgun shells that they modify to look like, you know,
something to put these, the hypo spray liquids into.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Janeway is very impressed with the EMH's versatility.
And he says, well, he's been running for so long, he's developed new subroutines.
And she says, well, how long?
long have you been running? He says three years. Yeah. Because the original doctor was killed.
Chikote comes in with his own belt. Janeway says, how was he killed? Yeah. Yeah.
He says, how was he killed? And he says, in the incident that stranded us here in the Delta,
before he finishes the dog, the Chikote catches on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, temporal prime directive.
Oh, suddenly, really? Suddenly, uh, other people can't tell every, spill all the beans.
like you've been doing the whole episode.
But anyway, he stops him from sharing the Delta Quadrant part of the story,
getting lost in the Delta Quadrant.
Janeway then says that she'll take the upper decks and Chacote should take the lower decks.
And another JC moment.
Chacote says, I don't think splitting up is a good idea.
Jane was like, you know, we get the job done faster.
And he goes, no, no, as your first officer, it is my duty to protect you and be your knight in shining armor.
I have that part.
I know a lot more about what's out there than you do, so we have no way of communicating.
So again, he's saying we must stick very, very closely to each other because this is the only
way to succeed.
And this is how J.C. Shippers will rejoice all around the world.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
We got on a corridor.
They're opening a panel in the hallway.
There's some gel packs.
They start working.
She asked about how many crew members have been lost.
Chikote says they've lost some crew members, but they've also gained some crew members.
as well.
Yeah.
But, you know, we get a number here that we've never gotten before.
Yeah.
It's the number of crew members before the marquee showed up.
So 153, 153 crew members.
I never knew that.
I didn't know that that's...
I didn't know that either.
You're number 152 and I'm 153, right?
So we're already on the ship.
Yeah.
Okay, so they're injecting the gel packs with a hypospray
when suddenly this macro virus from macrocosm comes around a corner and they start running
through and pass through a barrier.
Yeah, Chocote knows exactly what that is.
What the hell was that?
He explains, again, breaking the temporal prime directive, he explains the whole story.
She says, wow, it seems like we went from one disaster to another.
And Chocote says, you know, you told me that Starfleet captains don't choose their missions, that the missions choose them.
Yeah.
And I like that quote.
It's a good quote.
It's a good quote.
It is a very good quote.
Yeah.
we go to the holodeck next well we go to a cave in black and white so we assume we're in the
holodeck um it is the bride of chaotica yeah uh holodec and janeway's walking through
this cave she says a monochromatic environment chikote says yes it's one of tom paris's
holodec programs janeway picks up captain proton's rocket pack and says hmm interesting technology
Yeah.
And basically Chocote says, you know, Captain Proton is obviously the savior of the universe, which, of course, is true.
Yeah, but then she bags on Paris.
She's like, doesn't sound like Mr. Paris's tastes are very sophisticated.
And I got a little defensive when she said that.
I'm like, what?
Why are you bagging on, Tom for that?
It's rude, rude, rude, rude.
Very rude.
And then, but then Chocote corroborates how unsophisticated you are.
That's why we love having him around, that unsophisticated Tommy Paris.
The access port should be there.
So they find it.
They start to move some rocks from a panel when suddenly Lonzac shows up with his men,
orders them to seize them.
Chakotay tries to deactivate the program, but the computer says it can't comply.
All their controls are offline.
And I'm wondering at that point, wait, are safety protocols offline too?
no they can't be because they're so casual yeah they're too casual that they have to assume
you know jane way after she gets grabbed and strapped down she's rolling her eyes constantly
i assume safety protocols are still on and that they know that yeah but i wouldn't be rolling
my eyes so much if the safety protocol yeah she was rolling them a lot and chaunica doesn't like
eye rolling no he's very sensitive backed yeah yeah um but doesn't doesn't chokote
say like hey you need to you need to roll with this you know yes he does because play along yeah
long yeah that's when she calls him yeah her liege yeah yes and uh i love the evil laughing from
dr keog from martin martin rayner his evil laugh as we push in on that close up was amazing
funny um janeway's eye roll yeah cote screws up he says aliens from the eighth dimension which is not a
dimension in Captain Proton.
And Dr. Cana says, everyone knows there are only five dimensions.
Yeah, yeah.
Kind of busted there.
Right.
Inway tells him, go investigate that hidden panel.
If you don't believe me, that there's these, these aliens from the eighth dimension.
Yes, if you don't believe in eight dimensions.
So they go, Lonzac pulls up a rock, which was a giant rock, by the way.
Yes.
And I was like, Lonzac is, he is ripped.
if he can just pick this giant rock up and move it yeah i mean that being said i mean the actor
that who played lonzac was a very large man so it was large but he was big i don't know
when he pulled that rock out so easily and just stood there and kind of whipped it around and
like eh it feels a little cheesy but that's what proton is it's that it's so it works
yeah i have no issue with that uh janeway tells cateka if he injects it with a device that
he took from them.
It'll neutralize it.
You neutralize it.
And he knows exactly Chaotica how to use this hypospray.
He does it.
I like that he tosses the hypospair away because it was like, don't talk.
They need that hypospray for all the other bioreal gel packs.
But anyway, he tosses it.
They'll get it later.
Oh, my God.
He does come over and free her from her restraints.
Yeah.
He says, oh, arachnia, you do love me.
and Janeway says,
how could I resist your magnetism?
Very funny.
Together we will rule the cosmos
and grind our enemies into dust.
I love to his hand gesture.
Yeah, his little hand gesture
and grind them into dust.
Like each finger kind of grinded into dust.
And then he kisses her arm
very similar to Gomez Adams
from the Adams family.
just all the way up to her shoulder and she rolls her.
I don't think she should have rolled her eye on that one.
I think it should have been less eye rolling at the very end there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It would have been fun to see something else.
There was a lot of eye rolls.
No, just because he does look up at her at the end and she rolls her eyes then.
You see what I'm saying?
So it was like, eh, chaotic is kissing you.
You can roll them if he's engaged in kissing and not looking at your face.
But at the very end, he looks up at her and her reaction is like,
Like, she's not playing the part any longer.
She should have been smiling like, hello.
Or like, let me blow you a kiss, whatever, right?
So that's going to be, I'm going to put that on Terry Wendell.
Okay.
Okay.
Moving on.
We're in the corridor.
Janeway and Chukotay are walking down the hall.
She's, Janeway says, if we restore the timeline, remind me to cancel Mr. Paris's
holiday privileges.
Rude.
Rude.
That hurts.
That hurts.
It's painful.
That hurt me.
I was like, what?
no how dare you they go in uh as jane way walk into a turbo lift next we see them coming in the
transporter room they find maki balana and iela oh my god so this is from caretaker now okay so
they're all in maki uniforms this is when we held them in we didn't have enough rig brig space
so now we're holding them in the transporter room basically i guess so yeah balana wants to know
what's going on she recognized chicote he says it's very complicated i'll explain what's going on
Yeah, she's like, what are you doing in that uniform?
That horrible Starfleet uniform, basically.
She can't believe that Chakotay is trusting Janeway and working with her.
And he says, just trust me.
I've never lied to you before and I'm not lying now.
That seems to convince Boulana and Chacote injects some gel packs in the transporter room.
Janeway looks at Bala, obviously curious as to why this woman doesn't trust her in that moment.
I saw that look from Kate.
It was great.
it was good um we go out in the corridor janeway and chikote walking again yeah um and janeway says uh balana blamed
her for stranding them well she said that woman yeah that woman blamed uh blame me for stranding them
and um chikote tries to brush it off he's you know she's just angry and janeway wants more clarity
and wants to know what happened and he says you were trying to save lives and he's spilling
The beans.
He spilled the beans.
There were occupants, alien culture, and don't second guess yourself.
I would have ended with, you were trying to save lives.
That's it.
Don't list the name of the alien cultures as the accomplice.
Now she's going to know.
You just spilled it to her.
So, yeah.
But the scene is about, basically, Janeway, it's like, you know, I'm starting to second guess every decision I ever made.
Yeah.
Everything I'm seeing looks like I just got us in trouble, more trouble.
I didn't, you know, protect anything.
we do go in the mess hall next and they see all these injured people in beds
tom paris finally shows up in the episode he's tending to them um he asks how they got in there
because obviously they're trapped in mess hall with all these injured people and can't see
get out of this timeline right and tom says it's radiation poisoning EPS relays overloaded
yeah when they ran into an anomaly and they need the doctor and medical supply so this is the
current timeline. It's got to be the season seven where we started. This is Tom in that in that
timeline. So just to recap, Tom knows about his relationship with Bolana, knows all the things
they've been through. Balana doesn't because her timeline is back in the Maquis days. So
I'll reference that a little later. Right. But Neelix. Neelix shows up off as the captain,
Coffey Black. She's like, who are you and how do you know? I like, coffee black.
she accepts the coffee, Neelix reassures her, you know, you always get us out of this.
Yeah.
This kind of jam.
Don't, you know, you'll be fine.
Don't worry, which I thought was cute.
Neelix's positivity.
They're about to leave when Janeway hears Tuvok say captain from across the room.
He's like, go over.
He is injured back.
Is that pretty good?
Captain.
I have a question.
So Tuvok, if we're in the current timeline and Tuvok is this injured, I mean, I guess we go back and
redo the moment of yeah okay it makes sense because he gets yeah by the end of the
restarted yeah it's a restart where this Tuvac this reality never happens that it has to be the
the correct yeah because he dies low chart here yeah he's dying here but also while he's dying
he's like it's been an honor to serve with you and to be your friend so it's sort of like
spock inside the warp core with Shatner with with with Kirk so it's Spock and Kirk and now it's
Tuvok and Janeway, and that's when
Chainway yells out, Mr. Paris,
and you take your sweet time. I think you had some
chronotons earlier. You were kind of a little slow coming over.
You didn't really... I did. I had some crontons. That's all they had
in the mess hall was chronotons. That's it. You were stuck in the mess hall.
Neelis gave you chronotons, and you were a little slow coming over to
dying here. He's got a whole room. He's got a lot of people.
No medicine or nothing. That's true.
So I'm not going to blame it on you, but I do think that your moves were a little bit slower.
than I thought they should be.
Not much he can do.
Okay.
This is bad.
I'm putting no blame on you.
I'm just saying the conneton's made you slow.
Yeah.
It's true.
Okay.
We go out to a corridor and a turbo lift again.
Janeway says she can not let this happen again.
And Chikote's like, what do you mean?
And she's now saying all of it, getting stranded and all the deaths.
It's just too overwhelming for her to see this.
Everything is my fault.
And she's got to change it.
And she wants to try to modify.
the plan, see if she can put Voyager back
into its original time frame
so they never go to the Delta quarter.
None of this happens.
And Chikote stops the turbo lift right there.
He's like, wait a minute.
This plan is already dangerous enough
and if we change it, it's going to be way too risky.
She's like, but it's worth the risk.
And he says, no, they have to go forward
with a current plan.
If they do, Tuvac will be fine.
And she said, it's not just about that.
It's about all of this.
She wants to know what, what,
what really happens. She says, he says, what about the temporal prime directive? She goes,
the hell with that. Yeah. And Chacote says, with all due respect, it's a little presumptuous of you
to think that you have the right to change everyone's future. Yeah. And she says, but they'll thank me.
And he goes, no, it's not, it's not just, you're only seeing part of the picture. You're missing
the part about people like seven of nine who became a member of this crew or Tom Paris, who
was a former convict and now he's our pilot and chief medical officer and husband to balana yeah
anyway that that angry woman yeah and i immediately thought about could we make a t-shirt
with balana saying the angry woman we're just angry woman on there yeah but i i do feel like
you know this whole thing is this whole scene is basically chikote saying to chainway you've only
seen the worst of it yeah there's a lot of good you haven't seen any good that we've
gone through in the last seven years. There's wonderful moments as well that you have not been privy
to. And this was another great scene with Beltran, knowing all the lines inside and he did not
stumble here at all. Yeah. Yeah, I thought this was really, really good. And I just want to just,
I just want to say to everyone out there, I don't want to ever to assume that Robert Beltran doesn't
know any of his lines on anything that he's worked on his life. He, no, he's just not a massive, he's not a fan
of sci-fi. And so I think when you're not
into a genre, it's harder to memorize
Technobabble and things like that.
Things like that. If you give him Shakespeare,
he'll know everything in a Shakespeare play,
which is arguably more difficult to memorize
than this. The other thing I noticed with Beltran
and I can relate to as an actor, when you're in scenes
where you just have a couple lines here or there, like on the bridge,
it's hard to remember.
Very much so. They come out of left field.
They're expositional lines.
Yeah, you can't remember where you jump in.
It's just, it's much easier in a scene like this where you've got tons of lines.
Yeah.
But it's just you and another character back and forth, back and forth.
Because the cues make sense.
They don't come out of nowhere, right?
Yeah, yes.
Exactly.
Mm-hmm.
Basically, he tells her, like, don't change the future.
There's a lot of good to it.
Right.
She finishes with, are you going to be lecturing me like this for the whole seven years?
And he says, yes, but you'll always get the last word.
Don't worry.
you'll always get the last word yeah which she does she's like okay let's get back to work she
had the last word yeah um in the quarter again she wants to know about the seska person yeah
he fills her in um how she joined the crew defected leaving he does leave out the part
where she catfished him about carrying his baby uh he don't tell janeway some of it but he
doesn't mention there you go that's the temporal prime directive working right there yeah
of the full detail.
He is cherry picking what he's going to show.
But they're concerned because they feel like
Cessca's not going to play along with this.
Yeah, she's going to be an issue.
Definitely.
So we cut to engineering.
Chikote is trying to talk to Cessca.
He's being held.
Diplomatic.
Yeah.
She's looking at this hypospray.
She says, I believe this is too preposterous to be a lie.
So they let him go.
Cessca even gets a little flirty here.
She becomes more disqualty.
is becoming more distinguished with age
and then suddenly she turns on him
and realizes that if he's from the future
that means her plan won't succeed
and that the Voyager crew is going to take back the ship
if he's still around
and trying to flip back to his timeline
she can't let that happen
and the Cazon grab him they pull him away
she wants to
change the plan to calibrate this pulse
to bring the whole ship in temporal sync with her timeline.
So suddenly, uh-oh, she wants to not go back to his timeline.
She wants her plan to work.
Yeah.
Basically, she's like, I will not be deterred.
Kazan raised the rifles.
We feel like it's going to be the end of Chakote when we see Janeway, Tom, and Harry
step through a barrier on the second level.
How did they get there?
They've walked through all these other barriers.
they were just watching from behind a barrier, I guess.
We have the serum too now.
That's what it is.
That's true.
But do you remember filming?
I do.
I remember this scene.
I remember Wendell saying, and now, guys, this is when you jump off the second level and the K's on.
And I'm like, okay.
And if you notice, you climbed over.
I went under the thing.
Because on that day, I was like, this is so dangerous.
I was like, it's high up.
And I said, Robbie's taller than me.
me his his legs are probably longer definitely and so it made so for me it made no sense to try to
hurdle it like you did i was like no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna do that so i went under i went
underneath is what i did but it was high i remember they shot the the angle looking up at us
yeah we had pads and yeah we actually jumped that's we jumped off of that thing yes right yeah we did
i remember the ninja jump that we did off that off that balcony yeah it was it was kind of fun for me
I was like, this is cool.
I felt pretty safe, but it definitely, you had a little adrenaline up there.
Oh, yes, you did.
There are some nerves.
There definitely were some nerves that day.
Chikote lets in Icheb and Naomi, adult Ichab and Naomi come in.
Naomi sets off an explosion at a console.
Yala, some other marquee come in.
I love this.
This is everyone, the team up right here.
All the different timelines are coming in.
We got Tarek.
There. Everyone's there.
Yeah.
And then Cessca grabs Janeway in a chokehold.
Yeah.
And she basically says, I want all my people to be inoculated so we can travel through the ship.
Right.
Nope.
No.
Cesca's about to shoot Janeway when Borg 7 walks in the door.
Oh, my God.
Through a barrier.
And Cessca shoots at her, but she's got her Borg stuff on.
Oh, yeah.
Bounces off.
Oh, yeah.
And then she grabs, seven grabs her in that crazy chokehold, too.
You see that?
I was like,
ha!
It was like,
wow,
aggressive.
We cut out to space.
We see that the ship is still stuck in this temporal anomaly,
still fritzing from in space.
We come back and Balana reports,
Cezza and Cazan are all in the Jeffries tube,
secure.
Chikote says the gel packs are ready.
And Janeway gives us speech.
She wants everybody to go back to their section,
their timeline.
And she says after Chucote initiates his pulse,
you'll,
you know,
he should find himself back at the moment.
Voyager first encountered this chronokinetic surge, and he's only going to have a few seconds,
but I'd like you to thank you all for putting your doubts aside.
When these timelines are restored, none of us are going to remember what's happened.
Right.
So everyone leaves after she says, good luck to all of you, except for Jamie and Chikote, and here it is,
the JC moment.
Janeway says, yes?
I was going to say, before, I want to hear you describe the Jayfell.
moment, but everyone heads off.
Yeah. Tom and Balana are walking
a foot apart, and
Tom knows that
Balana is his...
Like, they don't even look at each other, and Balana
should be like, who are you?
She's a marquee, and Tom should be like,
guess what?
Okay. You're going to like me someday.
There should be some recognition of that. Yes,
you're right. You're right. Okay. So,
Janeway
basically turns to Chkote and says,
mind if I ask you one last question
and Chacote says
well I have to break the temporal
time prime directive to answer it which is kind of funny
and Janeway says well
maybe just a little for two people who started off as
enemies it seems we get to know each other
pretty well so I've been wondering
just how close do we get
because she's feeling
the attraction to Chacote
in that moment
and so she wants to know
She knows that there's something going on there, right?
And of course, Jacote answers with, let's just say there are some barriers we never cross.
And then she awkwardly brings her hand up to shake it.
I'm like, no, that should be a kiss.
But, okay, it is what I think this does answer the question that were they feeling feelings that the audience all saw, that I saw, that you saw.
And this answers the question, yes, they were both feeling those feelings.
Yes.
And it also answers the question, why didn't they act on it?
because sometime off camera, they agreed to not cross some barriers.
That's why they can have dinner together and flirt a little,
but they're not going to cross the barriers.
I thought this scene was super important for our series.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then she says, see you in the future.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
We go back to the bridge.
We're in Caretaker Time Bridge in this moment.
Janeway walks in, takes her seat.
She asks Harry for an update.
He says, Chiquet will be initiated.
the pulse in 10 seconds, starts a countdown there.
We go to engineering.
Chucote does initialize the pulse.
This bright light fills the room.
I love the, we cut around to the bridge with this energy distortion.
I love the VFX, kind of double exposure thing happening.
Now when Janeway asks, what is it?
Which is it harkens back to that earlier scene.
Now I respond, not looped.
I say, I don't know.
This is my real voice on this.
They use that on set.
So no looping here.
main power is being rerouted to the
deflector dish
Jamie was like
who gave that order
and we do
we do see everything
sort of just
everything just goes out
the reflector's been burned out
but we're okay
so then Janeway's like
well do you mind telling me
why Balana burned out the deflector dish
and Chacote's like well actually I ordered it
Janeway's like what why
Chico's like trust me
it's better than the alternative
and then she's still kind of like
trying to probe here
which is what exactly
And she was like, I can't tell you.
And she's like, why the temporal rhyme directive?
Blana's already got a team working on the repairs.
And what do you say, we finish our dinner?
I loved her look, by the way, a great smiley face from her.
She was like, really?
Yeah.
I don't know.
It was a very sweet.
It was a nice interchange, definitely.
And we end with the final scene in Janeway's quarters.
After dinner, they've been drinking up that cider.
And, you know, they have a nice little, a nice little connection here.
nice little moment they have this dinner and uh she she would want to know what happened if the
deflector dish had not been turned into a lightning rod and he said you know we've been down this road
before and she says oh have we and he says yeah you're wanting answers to questions that you
shouldn't be asking and chainway says it's strange knowing there's a piece of your life that you
don't know anything about and chokote says well that sounds a lot like the future which was so relatable right
We all want answers to questions that we can't get answers on.
Yeah.
And then she says, any predictions on the future?
And he says, only that in a few minutes this bottle will be empty.
And he pours her a glass.
And then she says, well, maybe we should go to Cargo Bay and get another bottle.
And he's like, wait, what?
How do you know where my hiding place is?
She goes, I can't tell you.
And she goes, why not?
And she responds with?
Temporal prime directive.
I love that ending.
It's cute.
It's very cute.
Very, very cute.
Oh, my God.
Okay, so do you have a theme that you, what is your lesson from this?
Would you say?
Yes.
My theme is don't regret the past, that things happen.
Sure, bad things, you know, choices we made and things we've done in life may have some
consequences that we regret or that we wish weren't true.
But also so many good things happen because of the choices we make.
So don't try to second guess it or change it like the scene where Janeway wanted to not, you know,
prevent the Voyager from going to the Delta Quadrant and Chikode is like, no, a lot of good things happen.
Naomi was born here.
You know, Seven's life was changed.
So many good things.
Neelix, all these things happened that wouldn't have happened.
So don't regret the past.
Okay.
How about this?
don't obsess with the past
because that means you are ignoring the present
which will then lead to you having no future.
Yeah, great.
How's that?
I like it.
All right.
I like it.
What is your rating of this episode?
My rating for Shattered.
I love this episode.
It was super fun.
I'm going to give this an 8.5.
Wow.
8.5 is pretty high.
I might even go, let's go 8.6, actually.
Okay.
8.6, final answer.
What about you?
Well, it fits a lot of the Robbie Duncan McNeil criteria in that pretty much everyone was used in this episode.
So that's the main thing.
Even old guest stars were used.
Even old guest stars.
So it actually went above and beyond.
Yeah.
Okay.
So my only issues were a few of the funny things where, for instance, Cessca not being able to hit Chacote, who's
I'm going to say probably two feet away from her.
How could she not hit him?
Other than that and maybe a couple other things,
I really loved this episode.
This was a very entertaining episode.
It was a walk-down memory lane.
I love seeing all the guest stars that we've had in the past.
I loved the references to the old episodes we've had,
macrocosm, you know, caretaker, pre-caretaker.
So my rating is going to be 9.5.
Holy moly
This is probably the highest rating
I've given anything
In the episode
Yes
There you go
It's funny
You give it a 9.5
I get an 8.6
Yeah
Right in the middle of that
Is our Admiral and Captive
Really?
Yes
Admiral and Captain's
average rating
Is 9.1
Look at that
Uh huh
I was going to say 9.9
But I didn't go that high
Wow
Yeah because I thought
You would look at me
Like I'm crazy
But still
9.1 for our captain's
admirals um awesome pretty it's pretty pretty darn good yeah i again as and again there's some
moments in here that are so cheesy but i love the cheesiness i love that that whole beginning when
janeway has no clue who this chicote is and he's he's holding her hostage and all that stuff it was
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