The Delta Flyers - Special Guest Interview with William Shatner and Joshua Brandon

Episode Date: August 19, 2026

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Delta Flyers special interview episode. And this time, Garrett and I are a little bit in shock. Garrett Wong and I want to welcome William Shatner and Josh Brandon to our show. Thank you, Bill, for being here. We are so excited to have you. Well, gentlemen, what is your thesis? We'd love to dive into the book first. Okay. Your books? Talk about that. And we do have questions. questions from our subscribers and also from Garrett and I. We'd love to ask you questions after we talk about the book. Absolutely.

It sounds mystical. Doesn't it? Thank you for the introduction. And we're here to celebrate your wonderful performances in Star Trek as well as everything else that you've done. And also to tell you that we two have a podcast, no time. But now, look it up wherever it is. And we've got this wonderful.

book called William Shatner and you. Josh came up with the idea. I interested me in it. Joshua Brandon, we've worked. How many books do we have now? Well, you did another book, right? You did boldly to go. It was very successful.

Mack, that's a no. Let me get after him while we're in the beginning of this. I can give you an idea of my commanding voice. Oh, that was very impressive. And it works for about a count of three. And that's all you can ask for. Well, I shut up as soon as you said something. Right.

It worked for it. And he left and he looked at me. I've got a conversation going with my dogs. I mean, my dogs and I are a unit. And they talk to me and I talk to that. Literally. Yeah. I mean, how many dogs?

I've got two Dobermans. Oh, wow. Beautiful. One's a hundred and pounds. The other's 90. Bill telling the names. We're inveterate coffee drinkers. So one is macchiato.

The other is, espresso. And their father was the coffee shop thing. One of my great fears is my dogs dying before me. I've got to die before my dogs. I've put dogs down over the years. Have you? It's horrible. It's horrible. It's so

painful. You know, sort of beyond painful for me in that the people you love are mostly living somewhere else. Daddy, bummy, brother, sister. You know, my family. I love them. but you haven't seen them in 13 years or been a long time since you've seen them but your dog

yeah is your buddy your dog is your emotional connection and for them to go to me it's been more painful well not more painful I mean obviously the loved ones are are deeply felt but not that the dogs

aren't deeply felt I've mourned dogs over the years I've count my history by my dog Yeah, there's something special about the dogs love, the pure love, you know. And if you knew what they were talking about, the dogs, because they're constantly, their ears are telling you everything, their eyes are telling you everything. I'm beginning to understand now that I think, like, the magic of a pride of lions, female lions, lionesses, who choreograph a hunt, like, how do they know to send that one over there

and send that one over there? And I said, what's the language? They're not mewing or puking. What they're doing is they're saying, they're going like this. And then they look at that one, they go, out there. And they know by the sight and the angle of the ears, they're talking to you with their eyes and their ears and their tail. In a language that's totally silent. But if you understood it, it becomes very complex.

Like, they'll come up and say good morning to you. They have no question. They say, good morning. And they nudge you with their nose. Yeah. If you nudge them back a little, you've said hello. Hey, good to see you. I heard a wonderful thing about dogs that they know you're in the house because of your smell.

They can smell you. I forgot the number. I mean, I've heard thousands and then I heard 800 more times. But, yeah, smell, scent. They live their life on scent. On scent. Yeah. things that we just don't we don't we're not aware of at all right and of course the scent is always

there and and I do a podcast mm did you didn't say really or no really what podcast is what's a podcast now and that is based on the fact that is based on the fact that my and I had age four cancer basically together. The two of us had cancer at the same time, and we lucked out with doctors, which is a huge truth, by the way, the doctor that takes care of you. And we're both cancer-free now. But in that two-year period of medication, I had learned not this time but before, because of another cancer scare with a loved one, that dogs can smell cancer.

I've heard that. I don't have to smell cancer. They can smell diabetes. They can smell so many things. People that have epilepsy have dogs. They can smell it ahead of time. They can smell death. So I know a story of a little dog.

Can you hear that? Yeah. A little dog in a home for the aged. Come there, you come to die. Okay. So that little dog at night would go and walk into a room. And the next morning, the guy was dead. So that little dog became famous because when he walked into a room, that was your announcement.

Don't go to sleep. Yeah, I don't want that dog coming near me then. No, you don't want that dog coming near you. By the way. Hey, Gary, you know what I did this morning? What? I used an app called 11 Reader to listen to a script while I drove to work, a script that I'm prepping to direct. So you uploaded a BDF to the app.

You were able to hear it while you were driving. That's a game changer, Robbie. Yeah, it's incredible. You can upload your own content like PDFs, docs, you know, fan fiction, whatever you want. Or you can listen to bestselling audiobooks with super realistic voices. It was incredible. I had Bert Reynolds read my script. How would you compare this to other reading apps that are out there? Oh, I've tried them. I've tried the other apps. And you can pay 15 bucks a month. You get one credit, one book. Or you could use 11 reader where they've got over 200,000. premium titles. They've got all the best sellers. You know, they've got a free plan that packs

incredible value and an ultra subscription for only $11 a month. So you start with a free 10 hours of your own content, or you can upgrade to Ultra for 11 bucks a month and unlock unlimited uploads, plus 20 hours of premium audiobooks every month. That's amazing. 11 bucks, it sounds like you're getting more and you're paying less than the others. Yes, and you get Bert Reynolds to read to you. Hey, who's going to argue with that? Check out 11 reader. Use promo code. podcast. That's P-O-D-C-A-S-T and get your first two months for only $1. My heavy metal album, which I'm doing. Oh.

You're doing a heavy metal album? Yes. The title of which is, what the F is heavy metal. And the group that they put together for me to do the concerts is being called asterisk Uckers. Cause. Wow. go in with no knowledge. Once again, don't understand a thing.

Oh, my gosh. They're playing Riot Fest in Chicago and Coachella next year. You are you really? I'm doing 30 minutes at Riot Fest and 30 minutes at Coachella. Oh, my God. I'm getting tickets. I want to see this. And a growing, I could use the word love or I could say appreciation, appreciative

love of heavy metal. I like rock and roll when I'm not. My kids were playing rock and roll, discarded. Like, what the hell is that? Why are they playing Frank Sinatra? And then learning to love rock and roll. Yeah. And then with my application to learning,

because we wrote three songs, Robert Chernobyl and I, and are covering three songs, doing a concert of six songs. I've come to understand this passion, this feed of life, this incredible, alive music, which is called heavy metal. and heavy metal could be a guitar, which I learned to my consternation.

Look at you, learning heavy metal at your age, at this point in life. Performing heavy metal. Performing heavy metal. This book that we come to talk to you about, William Shatner and you, is Josh's idea. He did so much work on it. He's a wonderful writer. And what we did was we asked people to send in a little paragraph of why they should be in the book, William Shatner and you.

And they sent in, a lot of people sent in stuff, right? Thousands. Thousands. I'm sure. Discriminate as to whom we've got celebrities. And I did, basically I did the celebrities and some people. And Josh handled people who's frequently, and don't tell anybody, their stories are much more interesting than the celebrities. But that's another.

Don't tell anybody. Yes. Real people, they're much more interesting. Well, you know, the, yes, real people. There's a guy who's, I can't get past this guy. And I think he's popular now. Josh, you'll have to tell me. A guy applied that Josh thought would be good, and then I interviewed him.

And this gentleman was born of a white and black family, ostracized from three and four years of age, kicked out of the house, at a very early formative age, four, five, three, somewhere around there. Now he's living on the streets. And he's four, five, six, seven. He has no connection with people. He's ostracized. And he meets a lady who says, look, I'll adopt you, but you've got to have an education.

And he goes, and he's one of those bright people. And he gets an education. It becomes an engineer. Becomes a guy who writes out a coat. And he gets, and he marries a lady and he has children. But he lacks the ability to make that human connection. And its dearest thing. His dearest things, I don't say possessions,

the most meaningful things that he has is a robot inside the house and a robotic dog that patrols the grounds. And those are his dearest things. And he goes to work with the mechanical dog in the front seat and he pets the dog. Wow. It's a man right out of 50 years from now.

It's amazing how the beginnings of our life, can impact us so deeply, it can burn into us. This- and sometimes we don't know the burn. It brands you and you don't know that it is because it could be something casual. It could be somebody who said, you know, you don't smell good or you get a bad looking eye, something that they didn't realize how deep that sentence meant. Yeah.

And it continues to affect you long since you've forgotten the sentence. I heard a psychiatrist say that our self-perception, the way we look at ourselves, is created in the first, by the time we're 20 years old, that 90% of what we, how we think of ourselves is from those first. I would think, I would think it's ingrained in you by the age of two and three. Yeah. With your mother, how your mother loves you, how your father loves you, what kind of discipline you had. What are the love? What are the love contacts? How jeopardized do you feel by love?

Yeah. It's about that kind of connection that you get or you don't get, like this man you're describing who didn't get. Well, he's connected as best he wants to be. And he's now an AI professor, too. Like, this is his field. Is he now? Yeah.

Here he is. These are the robots. His relationship with life continues. to be one step removed from human pain. Wow. Well, you did another book, right? You did Boldly Go? Boldly Go.

How is that? Where did that come from? Well, Boldly Go is a saying. Yeah. I had the saying before you did, didn't I, Josh? Didn't you take it from something I said or did? As I recall, we were going with a couple of titles with with Atria Books at Simon and Schuster.

And we were trying to say Go Boldly is the correct vernacular, but we wound up with Boldly Go. I understand that the word boldly is an adverb conditioning the word go, right? And people say,

work quick. No, no, man. There are rules. Work quickly. L.Y. There are rules. There are rules. And they keep not doing

the adverb. And it drives me crazy. I say to my kids, you know, no, go boldly. Don't go bold. But what difference does it make if you say boldly go? Why does the adjective, why does the adverb have to go after? After. Apparently, it's what they refer to as a split infinitive. But I learned this. It only applies if the word two comes before to boldly go. So our book is is completely grammatically correct. The rules in English are diabolical.

It's horrible. So many languages have entered into the making up of English that the rules are just like thumb. Why is it to be at the end of THUM?

But Bill, you must be very good at the English language because you've written two books at least. I don't know how many books you've written. And you're writing

heavy metal music now. Exactly. So you must be good at language. Yeah, that's true. But there's a, Josh, Brandon is a huge factor. And a gentleman by the name of Robert Schonero turns out to be a great artist, a great poet. And he doesn't want his name into too much. So he forces me to avoid it.

But this is a guy who has a great ear for lyrics. And talking about books, we wrote five, six albums. albums already. One is coming out with Brad Paisley in a couple of weeks, I think. Love and Other Mysteries, it's called, with Brad Paisley and Taylor Goldsmith, who

is another, not as well-known virtuoso guitar player. Wow. And Brad's band. And I've done this album of stuff that Rob and I wrote that we're releasing in August because it's our

collective opinion that it's good enough to have the awards committee for... Wow. Look at it. We feel it's that good. So if we're lucky, maybe we'll get a mention. Is music something you've done for a long time, or is this a relatively new thing? It's...

Deca? Uh-huh. Said to me when I was doing Star Trek. I said, why don't you make an album? I said, okay, why don't I make an album? What will I do? I don't know. So I took songs that lent themselves to acting.

It was a very good year. Yes. It's iconic that album, yes. It is. There are elements of that that were really good. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I worked on it was a very good year and tried to characterize it. It was very good.

It was great. And made it mine. And then I did, to be or not to be. I mean, it was a strange album that was picked up by Ben Foulds, who then called me and said, I'd like to do some music with you, which beget the music career. Because I began to understand how the onomatopoeia of English lends itself to the music of anything. A well-written song has the music of the words in it. So as an actor, I try to imbue the character of the song.

Yeah, that album is iconic, and I'm so excited that you're making more music, and I can't wait to hear this. I'm making more music. This other book that's coming out in wintertime. will be those lyrics that we wrote that are the summation of events in my life. So instead of it being moon in June, it's, I crossed a bridge on my way from Montreal to Toronto. I was left home and I'm crossing a bridge and an 18-wheeler pushing you that big pillow of air, almost pushed my cheap little car over the side and what would have done if I had lost? And I wrote a song about that.

And I wrote a song about 3,500 people waiting for me at the theater in London. And that morning, the prime minister says, nobody more than, no more than 10 people can collect. And I thought, I got 3500 people at the Apollo Theater. Yes. Is anybody going to be there? And I went there and I got there and I stood behind the curtain. I thought maybe I could hear some people. I think the curtain goes up and all 3,500 people stayed.

Wow. And we were all weeping in the joy of making that connection against. The approval of the government. So all these songs are part of what Rob and I have done. Oh, that sounds very exciting. I can't wait to hear. I can't wait to hear that. It's all unique and exciting because all those poems have been, have music behind

if you were to buy the album. In the book, it's spoken word, but it's unique. So it is very exciting. This book that Joshua and I wrote is unique in that it's, It sums up what people think of you. I love the idea. Lives were touched. It's his idea.

It's called William Shatner and You is the name of this book. And it's only available right now at William Shatner and You.com. The first edition. The first edition. And then in September, it's coming out on Amazon exclusively. People can get it. But if they want the first edition, they've got to go to William Shatner and you.com. Tell us about my marketing genius, Joshua Brandon.

I got a lot to work with. Yeah. Well, he's got a very creative Bill Shatner to work with. I mean, I'm so impressed, Bill. We've met a few times at conventions. We've passed in the green room and things. But this has been, it's such a pleasure to get to talk to you and to learn how creative you are. I'm really impressed.

I'm really truly impressed with you. How often do you say that to a guest? I don't. Garrett, do I? No, he doesn't really. And Bill, what? impressed me is you actually interviewed Kenneth Mitchell, the actor who passed, and he talked about wanting to kind of transition after passing and become a tree. And I think he said a few days after that

interview, you actually shipped a tree to him saying, let's be trees together. And when he told me that, I interviewed him probably a week or two after you did for this podcast. Did you talk about death? We did. We did a little bit. Not as much as you guys did. But I just thought that was impressive that you sent that gift. Well, I mean, here's a guy. We all have secret thoughts about our attitude. towards death. I mean, you know, I believe in God. God's going to rescue me. I don't believe in God. Or I wrote a script in which the guy had a near-death experience went back, you know, mom, mother's calling, come, son, it's okay. White angels you're here. We love you. Stay. Not my guy. My guy went back in a near-death experience and visited gargoyles and goblins and they're going to eat you.

So he came back and he said, Jesus, I'm this war hero from a war hero family, MacArthur. and I'm afraid to die. And now I put him in all kinds of situations where he's with his family and he runs off because he's so this hero, this war hero runs away from his family because he's afraid to die because of what he saw in this near death experience. I was impressed after you had had that long interview with him that show to be trees together. I wanted to. Yeah. So how do you comfort a guy's got this terrible, the worst probably disease you can get? That's right.

Brilliant. And your muscles don't work. And I interviewed Stephen Hawking as well. At the very lowest point of his disease, his hand hung down, slack-jawed, and the only thing about him was the brightness blue of his eyes. And he had a little mouse attached to his cheek. He could move his cheek, and he moved that,

which moved to his thing on his computer, and was able to spell out what he wanted to ask or answer. But this other gentleman, we talked about dying. He talked about leaving his family, weeping, and to have that honesty, because we all think about it, whether we're, I mean, my daughter, who was frightened to death of dying, became conversant with dying as a result of having stage four breast cancer. And she's better now,

but she no longer fears as much death. For me, I was trying to tell him, we live on. Not necessarily, not that I know any more than the Pope. So maybe, you know, a guy in robes comes back and ascend and puts you on the throne. But maybe not. Maybe you become part of the universe. Since we're the building blocks, we are made of the building blocks of the universe, we go back. And do we ask questions so the universe becomes more questioning itself?

I mean, the mystique, the mystical thing of that kind of belief of there's something more, but we don't know what it is, but it is more because we're told that energy and matter are, say, the same, and energy turns into matter, matter does anything, but there's no more matter, no more. So we go back to this cosmic thing that has no answer to it. We don't know what it is. How did it happen? That's the biggest mystery of all. Nobody has an answer to that.

Yes, that's right. And what is that? And does that have a boss as well? Does that one say, well, we're mystical and we're in these galaxies, but you should see the real guy. Yeah. Wow. It's so strange and awesome and wonderful.

And will we learn the answers when we die? And that's why when I said, I want to be a tree. We wrote a song, by the way. Oh, you did. I want to be a tree. And it's in the book, in the book of poetry. I sent him a tree. I said, what kind of a tree?

I forgot what he chose. But my family, several members of my family. We've chosen the tree. We're going to molder our body so that you don't burn them, but you retain the moldering aspect of your body, and then place it on the tree that you've chosen, so you help bring your health and your goodness, your vitality to that tree. And that tree lives because of you.

And it has your and your family's names on it. And it is a real living thing. And you can go to the tree. You go visit the tree. The tree will remain. There will be, no matter what happens to that land, there will be, what do you call it when you have a right to go on the land? You have an easement.

You have an easement. You have the easement onto that land. Like somebody who has a pathway from over there, through your land over to their house. That easement will remain for the rest of time. So you have an easement to your tree, no matter what happens to that land, which in this case is up in this equestrian. is. Good for you. I love what you're saying about the interconnectedness of the universe and of the cosmos in a way, this big idea. And it reminds me, I read a book recently called The Overstory about trees, about how trees, the roots of trees are so much larger than the tree itself and that the roots connect to other tree roots. And so all the trees that we see around us are connected to each other.

Yes, but here's another part of that. Yeah. Here, wait a minute. Here's something that's going to blow your mind. Once you sit still, grip, grip something. Hold on to something. Are you ready? We're ready. Okay, here is. Trees send electrochemical signals along the mycelium of the fungi to other trees. They record electrochemical signals along the mycelium.

our brain works, we send electrochemical signals uncountably faster than the tree but it goes along the dendrites and the last aspect of that is until you're about 25 the completion of your dendrites connecting with your brain isn't done

but 23, 24, 25 the last of your brain connects and that's why they send 18-year-olds in fighter planes because they don't think they're going to die. Holy shit, I am going to die. Right. And in an airplane? Are you kidding?

I'm not going. Well, this book sounds amazing. You have had such an impact on so many people's lives, not just through Star Trek, but through your music, your writing, all of it. Your public speaking. I got to tell you, Bill, I came down to watch a taping of a sitcom that you were on called My Dad Says. Yeah. And I was doing a show at Warner Brothers.

A friend of mine was on that sitcom. And I was so impressed with watching you between takes talk to the audience. Yeah. They would cut a scene and you would go right up to the railing and start taking questions and talking to the audience. I loved it. But, but, but I have found a lot more often than not a mystical connection with the audience, whether I'm performing a role or whether I'm talking. And that quite often I'll, and there's this silence.

What happened to him? Do you have a heart attack? And so you hear that silence? That's the connection you and I have. Yeah. They go, wow, of course. And this mystical connection, the spiritual thing happens. I saw it on the stage of my dad says.

I saw you do it with that audience. That's what I was doing. You were connecting with the people. Yeah. And then there's this life force that takes place because they're saying, who's shit, he's okay. And then this, it's not mystical. There's a force of connection.

I got a question for you, Bill. After everything you've been through in your life, all this, you've done more than any human being that I've ever met, I think. Only yesterday, but other than that. But what in life right now makes you stop? and go, wow, makes you go everything. Talking to you, look at Josh has a chance

to speak and look at the beauty of his face. I mean, he's got a genuine smile on his face because I never let him talk. No, but I mean, just the connection. Not having you guys laugh. Coming up with ideas, just anything.

I mean, it's so, it's so creative in the true sense. It's like do any of the three, of you cook. Are you? Yes. Chefs and all. Josh, are you? Ah, little Liz is the cook in my house. See, I don't cook at all.

But I watch cooking shows because I see the way they, you know, the joy, they're painting. Yeah. A little more son, a little thing in the fun, then okay, we'll need two minutes and then, and they're busy creating a dish. And I think, God damn, I got to eat a dish like that. Somebody's got to cook for me like that. Not, I got it here. Do you want to eat spaghetti al dente or do you want a mush?

You know, the art of creating something like cooking. I mean, there's such an art. Yeah. And simplicity, not, not, I was watching a show that, what's his name who died? Anthony Bourdain. In Paris at a French restaurant. And what they made and how they cooked it and what they did. And the finesse of what they did,

I'd love to eat a meal like that one day. And they said, this is the kind of meal they'll look back on in 20 years and say that was like the most superb thing. These great chefs, all working for the greatest chef, did this dinner, which a half a dozen people ate. And they were saying this is the greatest dinner to be made in Sinsescoffier or whatever they.

Isn't that incredible? Isn't that something to look forward to? That's what it's all about, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Bill, did I ever tell you how I first met Josh, Brandon? Oh. So we were doing Voyager.

What year was this, Josh? 2000. 2000. In 2000, the year 2000, I'm going to digress for a minute. Young Josh Brandon comes over to the set on Paramount Studios of Star Trek Voyager, and he introduced himself. He says, hey, I've seen you've started directing on Voyager. I want to be a filmmaker and I want to direct and write.

right movies someday. When I come to Hollywood from Australia, where I live, my young little innocent self, when I come all the way over to Hollywood, can I give you a call? And of course, I said, sure, you do that. You give me a call. Cut to 10 years later or so. I met my office at Warner Brothers Studios and my assistant says, hey, you got a message from somebody named Josh Brandon, do you know? I could not remember. You made a lot of people. She goes, She goes, but he said that you told him to call when he came to town. Yeah. And so I said, okay, well, if I told somebody to call, I guess I need to call him back.

So I called you back, Josh. You came to my office. We talked. You handed me a script you had written, a spec script. I took, I read it. It was good. I gave it to my manager or my agent at the time. And he signed Josh and there you go.

That's the end of that story. But yeah. Wonderful. Yeah. That's a beautiful story. of a young man having the courage, and the dynamism to make all those connections and work. We have been very lucky to have you today, Bill.

Thank you. What a pleasure. And Josh, thank you for... And Josh just kept interrupting. I mean, so rude. Josh. Enough, Josh. Wait a minute.

Before we end, before we hit the one... I love that awkward moment when you go to what you said, look, and then there's everything. and there's everyone's waiting to get it, you know, to leave the Zoom thing. Before that happens, Joshua, talk to me. Well, I'm just so thrilled. You know, it's not dissimilar from the story with Robbie. My life has just been, I don't know, I'm going to ask.

And that's how it happened. Bill and I had met for five seconds on a few separate occasions. One was on my dad says because Robbie and I share that mutual friend, Jonathan Sadowski. So I met Bill backstage for five seconds. And that was a moment for me, my hero growing up. Then I was a writer on Haven and Bill came in and did four episodes and he came into the writer's room and I met him for five seconds. I thought, wow, twice and one lifetime.

One day, I'm sitting on vacation with my wonderful wife, Liz, and I promised I wouldn't do any work. And I said, I want to email Bill's assistant in case she still works there and to just ask if I can pitch him a book. And I said, I promise, I won't do any work. I'm never going to hear back. But I have to put it out into the universe. So she said, all right, write your bloody emails.

I write, dear Kathleen, I don't know if Mr. Shatner is taking any pictures or is there someone on his team I might be able to speak to. And like an hour later, she says, hi, Josh, I spoke with Bill. He'll call you at three o'clock tomorrow. Wow. Well, who has a team? What's that? Do you have a team? I don't know.

I thought you were a big shot. Hey, like me, who drives right? What do you mean who drives? I got a fast car. I'm skinny around. There's this, this Hollywood. An Hollywood idea that there's a team. There's no team. The actors generally, there's no team here. This is the team. This is the team. You're going to be a heavy metal star once this music comes out.

You're going to need an entourage. I didn't know what I was doing. And I thought, I'm making a terrible mistake. The more I've gotten into it, I'm rehearsing every day now. Wow. Two songs, sometimes the whole show. I'm like I'm learning the music. And the more I get into it, the more I realize what a wonderful entertaining menu this is. And it covers all, I didn't realize this. So Rob says to me, we should do a song called Impatience, because Patience is a big, heavy metal song. I said, great, the two impatience. I'm impatient. I'm impatient. I'm not going to wait for you no longer. Oh, dear. Read my lips. I'm leaving the impatience, okay? So we do the lyrics. I do the set. I do the track, and we give the track to the guy who's doing the music. And

Comes back and there's a guitar. Ding, ding, ding. I'm not levering my left. Ding, but ting, but team. And I go, this is a heavy metal. He says, yes, it is heavy metal. And he plays me patience. Guns and Roses.

And it's just a guitar. Yeah. So he was doing a guitar on impatience because he thought, well, it's impatience is a guitar. And I had no idea that I thought he was bang, rang, ding, bang, brie, to keep going.

So we rewrote the music on Impatience. Wow. It's a fun song by this. Hey, read my lips. I'm being impatient here. Wow. Amazing. Oh, my goodness.

Well, everybody makes sure you get Bill's new book, Bill and Josh's new book, William Shatner and you. You can get it at William Shatner and you.com right now and starting September 1st. You can get it on a hand. And the podcast. Yeah. No time but now. No time but now. There we go.

The podcast, the books, the heavy metal music. The music coming out in August with Brad Paisley. Oh, my God. And Taylor Goldsmith, another unique guitar player. Wonderful. Wonderful. Yeah. Well, Bill, thank you again so much.

And thanks to our subscribers for supporting us on this podcast. Thank you. I hope it reaches a vast audience. I will. And thank you to Josh Brandon for setting all of this. Thank you, Josh. Is the real gold here. Yes, he is.

He is. Thank you so much, everybody. All right. Thanks, Bill. Thank you. If you're interested in the first edition of the book, the new book, William Shatner and you, all you have to do is go to William Shatner and you. com.

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