The Delta Flyers - Spirit Folk

Episode Date: December 12, 2022

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Spirit Folk. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.Spirit Folk:For the holographic inhabitants of Fair Haven, unworldly actions from Voyager personnel fit only one explanation - they're faerie folk.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, Kate Mulgrew, Brannon Braga, & Bryan FullerAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co-Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Kelton Rochelle, Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Daniel de Rooy, Chris Knapp, Janet K Harlow, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Elaine Ferguson, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, James Zugg, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Kelly Brown, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, William McEvoy, Sarah Thompson, Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Adm. Bill "Seoulman" Yu, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Ashley Stokey, Lori Tharpe, Mary Burch, Nicholaus Russell, Dominique Weidle, Lisa Robinson, Normandy Madden, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Barbara S., Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Megan Chowning, Tae Phoenix, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Bronwen Duffield, Brandon May, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Jeremy Mcgraw, Jason Bonnett, Ali S, Danie Crofoot, Ian Ramsey, Susan V. Gruner, Feroza Mehta, Michael Dismuke, & Jonathan BrooksAnd our Producers:James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Ann Marie Segal, Chloe E, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Jocelyn Pina, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Matthew Cutler, Maxine Soloway, Joshua L Phillips, Barbara Beck, Species 2571, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Scott Lakes, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Tara Polen, Jenna Appleton, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Jamason Isenburg, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Jennifer Jelf, Justin Weir, Mike Chow, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, Clark Ochikubo, David J Manske, Roxane Ray, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Cindy Holland, Craig M. Nakashian, Will Forg, Max Wilson, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Russell Nemhauser, Lawrence Green, Jordan Marie Benko, Christian Koch, Lisa Gunn, Lauren Rivers, & Shane PikeThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at [e-mail].”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager. Your two hosts along this journey are my fellow Voyager actor and motorcycle enthusiast, Mr. Robert Duncan McNeil, and myself, your favorite forever, Ensign, Garrett Wong. Remember, you can get the full version of this podcast by signing up to become a patron at patreon.com forward slash the Delta Flyers. Hello there. I'm running out of credits. So I just started to start throwing out things that you like. Things.

Okay. All right. Motorcycle enthusiast. I like that. And that is true. You have been into motorcycles since as long as I've known you. So this is a big deal for you. It's a fun hobby.

It's a, you know, it's a funny thing with motorcycling because it's inherently very dangerous. It can be very dangerous. Yes. But I remember once reading an article about, you know, the statistically, the number of people that ride motorcycles, how many get hurt, and the number of people who go snow skiing that get hurt. And percentage-wise, a lot more people get hurt. Snow-skiing than you do. But no one ever says, oh, my God, you're going snow-skiing. Don't do that. It's so dangerous. But with motorcycling, everybody has an opinion. And I think that's because with motorcycling, often it's not just injury. It can be death, you know, because the stakes are high, very high, and it is dangerous. So I never encourage people to take up motorcycling casually.

Like if you want to, if you want to ride a motorcycle, learn the skills, take the courses, really learn how to ride that motorcycle safely because you're always mitigating danger. I always go out thinking I just imagine that every single person on the road is trying to kill me. Oh, no, true. It's defense. You really have to. Really have to ride defensively. Yeah, it's completely defensive. Like you, you, every car that you're about to pass, you assume they're going to cut in front of you. Yeah, you have to. You have. That's the only way to ride. And it's funny, not even motorcycles, but scooters, because at UCLA, scooters are very dangerous. Scooters were the, scooters were the thing and I can't even tell you how many times somebody would have a scooter and a friend would say

let me try let me try and they get on and they they give it a little too much gas and guess what wheelie I mean the whole thing goes off the up off the ground and they crash and it's just I've seen it happen over and over again it's just you know well because people look at scooters and they think oh how cute yeah oh this is a toy yeah it's a toy no it's a motorcycle it's a motorized vehicle you've got to be very very careful it is but I I love love motorcycling. I really do. I have two bikes right now. I have a triumph, Tiger 1,200, a big bike. And then I've got a Honda CX-500, which is an old 70s bike that has been turned into a cool cafe racer. And so there's my two current bikes. But I've had just about

every kind of bike there is. You have. And I actually, for one Christmas, I got you that huge encyclopedia of motorcycles. Yeah. I still have it. Yes. And on Voyager Robbie had a soft tail Harley is that I had a Road King Harley Davidson Road King there you go that's what you had yeah very loud bike all those Harleys was very loud so I just want to talk about last night we have a subscription to to the local theater here that brings in different Broadway shows so we watched we watched Jesus Christ Superstar last my least favorite musical I have to say there was there was a family sitting in

front of us. I think maybe it was a quarter of the way into the show. They got up and left. They just laughed. They were just like, no. Yeah. No. Every, there's, it's like what, each number goes right into the next number so quickly. And there's no really rest. And it's, I don't, it's an assault on the senses. And I don't understand how this became a thing. Like, how did this even become like, how did people say, this is going to be amazing? How did cats become a thing? I don't understand it. I would say Jesus Christ Superstar and Cats are two of my least favorite musicals. Okay. Because they're sort of concept musicals.

Yeah. And at least in Jesus Christ Superstar, they take the biblical story of Jesus, his life. And they tell a story. At least there's a plot. In Cats, there's no plot. No plot at all. And I don't really particularly like the music or the lyrics to either one of them. I just don't think they're very good representation.

Are they made by the same production team? Is that correct? Yeah, it was Andrew Lloyd-Weber and Tim Rice wrote the lyrics for both of those, yeah. Wait, no, Tim Rice did not write lyrics for cats. It was T.S. Eliot's book of cats. So the lyrics and cats came from a book of poems, poems about cats, T.S. Eliot, I think. But are they still Andrew Lloyd-Weber that produced both of them? Andrew Lloyd-Weber did the music for both and produced them, yeah.

Oh, my gosh. I don't know. Sorry, you had to go through that. seen a couple times. I'm just like, I don't get it. I don't get it. Did you ever audition? Did you ever audition for that? No, I never did. That story, the, you know, the biblical story of Jesus is so well done in the musical Godspell by Stephen Schwartz. Oh, it's wonderful musical. So you would recommend that one. Oh, Godspell is amazing. The music, the characters, the whole concept yeah is is brilliant it's a it's a classic and it's an amazing musical that takes the same

story the bible story of jesus and puts it into a musical theater form so judas is also in god spell as well the whole yeah you know all the characters everything the whole story is there but a thousand times better than jesus christ superstar okay in my opinion yeah wow there you go now you know everyone out there i mean if someone says hey i've got an extra ticket to cats or jesus christ superstar, you're going to say pass, hard pass. But if someone says God spell, you're going to say, me, please, and you're going to go because it's worth it. Okay. That's the official Delta Flyers recommendation. All right. So this week's episode is Spirit Folk. Spirit Folk. So we, yes, Robbie and I are going to go watch this. And we'll be right back with our recap and discussion

of Spirit Folk. Man, look at this sequel to Fairhaven. Super exciting. Right off the bat, we did not guess writer, director, any of that stuff. No. David Livingston, director, writer, Brian Fuller. No shared writing credits whatsoever. So basically everything.

Storytelplay was all by our good buddy Brian. And I think he did a wonderful writing job on this. just i mean there's he has references to fair haven that he brings up the prior episode um where we're in this holodeck program and just the little little the minute details yeah yes i mean insider sort of jokes and things yes i love like like when they say they say something about yeah tom just walks around this town like he built it or something you know stuff like that things like that it's very funny oh gosh it's funny okay so we do have the director, it's David Livingston, written by Brian Fuller. What about the guest stars?

Can you run through them for us? Guest stars are basically all the repeats from Fairhaven. So we've talked about Richard Real as Seamus, Ian Patrick Williams is Fitzgerald, Henrietta as Maggie, Duffy as Grace, Fenton, as Michael Sullivan, and Barbara Dowling as Edith. They were all in Fairhaven. The only person that is new, is Ian Abercrombie, my dear friend. Milo?

Milo. He's not in the prior one? Nope. No. Oh, wow. No, he's in this one. And Ian, as people who've listened to this podcast before, no,

Ian was in the episode I directed someone to watch over me. Oh. And Ian and I did a play together many years back in 1990 or something. we did a play called Child's Play I just loved I loved Ian he passed away in 2012 what was his part in someone to watch over me what did he play he was the head monk

when the monk came over to the ship yes um and oh the kids in the hall actor right yeah he was he was his boss I see that was Ian that's Ian oh my goodness and he's got one of those familiar faces you've seen him in many projects so yeah and we've

We talked about Ian before, but we didn't talk about him in the Fairhaven storyline. Everyone else is repeat. So that's our cast, that's our writer-director. Let's have our poetry. Oh, yeah, I jumped over that. Okay, here we go with my haiku for spirit folk. Yes. Tommy pranks Harry.

Crew thought to be spirit folk. Michael sets them straight. Nice. All righty. I love the haiku. All right. Yeah. Let's go for a little limerick.

I'm ready. Tom's magic tire change makes Seamus go, wow. And then he turns Maggie into a cow. Janeway has a malfunctioning boyfriend. The town of Fairhaven could come to an end. Then Janeway's honest. And they all get how Holodex work now. You rhyme friend with end.

there i like that good yeah and i got ma wow and a cow and now yeah there you go artistic license that's yeah a little artistic license but i wanted to get the i wanted to get the cow in there yeah you got the got to get the malfunctioning boyfriend everybody's everybody's known a malfunctioning boyfriend okay um yeah let's just start right off in the beginning we we cut in on tom and i got to say I love the goggles on you. I love the hat. It's an improvement from the prior newsboy cap that you had on. I love this one.

And the jacket. Oh, my gosh. The overcoat, the white driving coat, canvas or whatever it was. Yeah. I love that coat. I wish Tom would wear that coat. I don't know. You should have taken that from Wardrobe.

You should have said Wardrobe. Can I have this? That was a really, really nice piece of garment. And clearly, because, you know, in those times, if you have a motor car, you have money, you know, everyone else is in a carriage and everything. So I think what Bob Blackman did was he felt, all right, if Tom is driving this vehicle and no one poor is going to be driving a vehicle like that, let's make him look a little bit more, you know, like he's coming to some money. And that's, you know, I think the lovely overcoat and that goggles and the hat looks great. So Tom is driving this car through Fairhaven, through the streets. I love this sequence.

It obviously, I do remember driving this thing. Yeah. And it's, you know, generous to call it a car because it's a carriage with a stick and a motor. And I can't remember if it was, I think it was gasoline operated. It ran pretty well. Wow. Okay. And I got to drive it.

And there's a lot of. angles on it. So you see, you know, there's a close-up. I think when we did the close-up of me driving, I actually sat in the back. And the camera operator was handheld in the front seat with a stunt driver. And I was pretending to drive, but it was a low angle handheld in the car. I remember having to sit, not where I really was driving, but moved back to cheat it while they drove me around. I wonder if that's an actual vintage vehicle from the time period? Or- I think it was in really well, no, I think it was, it was a real, I remember, and I remember the person who owned it was there and very proud of it.

Oh, I'm sure. They would not leave that baby. Shining it up and keeping it running. And yeah, it was, it was a pretty, pretty cool car. Most definitely. But he drives through the street, I remember that, crashes into some barrels. Yeah. And the wheels fall off.

One wheel. One wheel falls off. Seamus runs over to Tom to see if he's okay. Any comments on how well Tom must be doing recently because he has a motor vehicle. And Tom comes up with this old story of he's been dipping into his inheritance from his grandfather on his mother's side. So once he hears that, Seamus is like, I would like some money for beer. And Tom does give him some money. Gives him a few shillings.

And then Shamish heads over to the bar walking away. Well, he does ask Tom to join him. And Tom says, no, he's heading to Casso O'Dell, which is, of course, where the fairy queen lives after dark. And you have to be careful of that. So there's a little bit of concern on Seamus's, you know, face. But he's more excited about the beer. So he goes to Sullivan's to go have that pint. Goes over there to have that pint and takes a look back at one point to Tom.

And Tom has pulled out a pad. Yeah. And he's telling the computer to repair the tire. Or maybe he didn't have a pad. I can't remember, actually. Maybe that's with Maggie later on. But he does, basically Tom says computer repair the tire and it magically, you know, regenerates onto the vehicle

because it's all a holodeck. Yes. But Seamus sees this and he freaks out. He sees his face and the push in on his face. Seamus is very affright. Yeah. Good, good correction because you didn't have a pad da-da at that point. I didn't. No, that was later on with Maggie.

That's later. I'm so excited about the camera. I know. It's going to be so good. We're in Sullivan's and Seamus is talking about seeing Tom Parris using unnatural powers to fix his wheel. He's panicking and he downs a big beer. Yeah, and then he speaks, exactly.

Michael was very skeptical of this. Michael's skeptical the entire time. The town doctor, Fitzgerald, tells Seamus just to leave it alone. You know, it's just one of his crazy stories again. And Milo jumps in. Milo, who we have not seen, he's been in. Ian Abercrombie jumps in. I got excited when he says, and I love this.

And that's the line that you came up with earlier that you had a chuckle about. That Tom Paris is an odd one. Coming and going through town as if he built the place. A very, very funny line on the part of Brian Fuller. And then they talk about he's a shifty one. And for that matter, so are his friends. At this point, Michael's mad.

Michael tells Milo he better not be talking about his KT. O'Claire. And Seamus brings up Kilman. in 1846. Oh, yes. Yes, a town which is no longer on the map, because guess what? A band of spirit folk came into town, and the town's folk welcomed them with open arms. And then there's a line where Seamus says, after all, a stranger is just a friend you haven't met yet, which is a reference back to the prior episode, a line from the prior episode. But now he's being sarcastic. He's being sarcastic, yes. We can't just trust everybody. And by the way, I just want to pause for a second and say, at this point, when I'm watching the episode.

All I'm thinking is, wait a minute, this holodeck just runs without any of us there. Like, they're all hanging out talking. Well, later on, I realized that that's a part of this. But I didn't know that at the time. So I'm watching the episode going, why are we watching all these holiday characters? No. Having conversations without us when the holodeck would be shut down normally if we weren't actively participating in it.

Well, Janeway gave you the A-O-K to keep that thing running 24-7. But I didn't know that at this point. Okay, so here you're confused. I got to say I was a little confused. All right. Back to Kilmanon. So in Kilmanon, the cows stopped giving milk. The potatoes grew rotten in the ground, and then people started going missing.

And by the time winter came around, guess what? They were all gone because they were transported to another world. The entire town vanished. So Seamus, he says to keep an eye on Tom Paris. And his cohorts, including that lady of Michael's, KTO, Claire. And right when he says that, K-A-T-O-Clair arrives. K-A-T-O-Claire arrives. And guess what?

She's got the butt of steel all over again. Yes, she does. It's just like, my goodness, there it is. The butt of steel in all its glory. And Michael greets her, brings her over to the bar and get her a drink. She orders tea. She orders tea, exactly. I love the line where she says, sorry, I'm late or something.

And he says, oh, did you snatch some children on your way through town? Yes, yes. with a sideways glance to Seamus while he's doing that. Yes. Well, he does ask her where she's been. And she says she's been at her uncle and aunt's farm. And she talks about the goat over there, which would give the talking pig a run for its money in town. And he says, well, maybe you should bring it in.

And it's funny because it sounded like he said, maybe you should beam it in. I had to rewind that like 15 times. I'm like, did he say beam it in? And it's like, bring it in. That Irish accent. Yeah. The Irish accent. It's a little tough for me to understand at times, to be perfectly.

honest. There's times when Michael's saying things that I'm just scratching my head going, what was that? I couldn't catch it entirely. Janeway says she wants to catch a show at the Nickelodeon, the movie theater that just opened up recently. And he says, you know, he has to work. And she says, okay, another time. But he wants her to stay. I mean, she's come all this way. And she says that she could be convinced to stay if he would be up for a game of rings. And right when she says, let's go, this is one of the very few times that I've noticed, clearly ADR. Like most of Kate's lines, even when she ADRs them, it's seamless. She's such a professional. She's able to make that seamless transition. But in this one, I definitely

heard her. It was like another day, another month later when she said, let's go. Yeah, completely different sound than what we heard, what we recorded on set. Exterior space shot of Voyager back into the mess hall. Yeah, we go to the mess hall. Harry's replicating a dozen Broadway lilies. Yeah. Broadway. They come up in the replicator. Paris pops in. Um, little troublemaker Paris in this episode. Yeah. I love his line. Something tells me that isn't lunch. Yeah, which I thought was just funny. Side note. Did you know this? My father came up with the cure when he was a plant pathologist for a common disease for Easter lilies that caused Easter lily crops to just go down south all the time, like the common cold. So he came up with a cure for that. So

oh wow yeah that was my pops we could have used him on voyager could have we could have um so yeah tom you interrupt me ask her the flowers are four and you tell me to watch out when dealing with country watch watch watch out for maggie o'alloran and then harry kind of jabs him back with yeah with your accident you know yeah i heard about your accident i don't know if i should take any advice from you balana comes over she's listening to this and she has had enough of this fair And this is when she says, you know, Tom, you've been running it around the clock. And that's when I was like, oh, that's why we were watching a scene with all these holiday characters and none of us there.

Yeah. Because it's running around the clock. That's right. She says, she's the voice of reason. Yeah. She's very skeptical of this thing. Stop playing video games. She says she had to repair three hollow emitters.

Tom says he ran it diagnostic. Don't worry. It's fine. Yeah. Harry says he's late. He's got to go. Tom offers to chaperone this date with Maggie, but Harry says, not with your driving record, and he's out.

And then Tom says, he's got an idea to make his date interesting with a smirk. Tom, the master of mischief is what I should start calling Tom now. And Balana just says, please don't break the hollow emitters. Tom is such a boy. He's such a boy. He really is. And I just love how Torres right in the beginning saying this program is an accident waiting to happen. And she is foreshadowing the next, you know, the upcoming scenes.

So we jump back to Fairhaven. And now Tom is following Harry and Maggie. Seamus and Milo are following Tom. So now we have two sets of parties that are unawares of being followed. And everybody's following it's a cute little scene. This straight looked beautiful, by the way. It looked amazing. The lighting and everything was just beautiful.

Love the dialogue about how Harry's not really lying to Maggie. He's talking about the fact that he is, you know, stationed on a ship, right? So he says, and so you hear Maggie say, You must be lonely out there on the sea with only the stars to guide you. Can I ask you something, Harry, would you like to hold my hand? Now, when she said that, and when I read this script, this part of the script, I started getting so nervous because of my issue with sweaty palms that I had. Oh, sweaty hands.

I had that the entire time during Voyager until, I think we talked about this. Until after the show was done, I ended up having the surgery that stopped the hyperhydrosis, the excessive sweating, which can be so, it's debilitating when you have a hand, which is, it just feels like you just ran it under a faucet, you know? And there is a certain percentage of this population that has to deal with that ailment. And I was one of them until I had that operation. So knowing that, you know, this was written into the script, I was just sweating bullets already. so no matter all yeah and you know it's it's funny because different actresses throughout the seven years have acted different ways when i've had to somehow touch their hand hold their hand to anything where they felt my sweaty palms some were sort of you know very sympathetic and

there was i can't remember maybe it was maggie or maybe it was the uh actress in the next episode but i definitely have had a time where someone said i don't care how sweaty your palms are you focus on the work right now okay doesn't matter me you don't have kudis i'm fine you know which was the best thing that someone could have said to me on set and having to deal with that that's very distracting that kind of yeah yeah sweating so they're talking and harry's being a poet and talking about being out and on his ship and she says well maybe you should settle down on dry land sometime yeah and we cut over we see tom pulling a pad out now yeah pulling the pad out.

Yeah. And Seamus and Milo look over. And they think it's like some talisman, some supernatural talisman thing. Yes, you have your pad to do that. But you also react to my lines with her. Like, at one point, I say something. And you're like, oh, my God, you do the proverbial eye roll. I know, rolling my eyes.

Yeah, exactly. It's funny. It's very funny. But Tom's watching. And then Maggie asked if he'd like to kiss her. And Harry goes in for the kiss, the famous kiss. Yeah. And that's when Tom's. Hits a couple of buttons on the padded it.

Yes. And Maggie turns into a cow. Yes. So just as Harry gets in there, turns into a cow. Right. But just so everyone knows, people do ask me this question at conventions. They say, did you actually kiss the cow on set? And I said, no.

I did not actually put my lips against that. Visual effects, they made it look like that cow's lips were right on my lips. But I did not actually. No. I came dang close. I will say that much, but I did not actually touch my lips to the cow's lips at all. The whole time that I was watching this scene,

I kept thinking about Katie Perry's song, I kissed a girl, but swopped around with Harry going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, with Harry going, I kissed a cow, but I liked it exactly. And I just started laughing all over again because of that. Yes. That's funny. Oh, when you do turn her into a cow,

and I realize it's you, immediately. You hear me go, I yell, Tom. Now, that shot, you see condensation on my breath and the cow's nostrils. But nowhere else, the scene before or after, do you see that it's a cold night? I think they did that shot last. I think we shot the whole scene and the very last thing they did was that vis effect shot of you kissing the cow. So it was later. So you think it was colder then. Yeah. So it was not added by, it was not a CGI thing, correct? You feel like it was an actual temperature thing.

It was temperature and it was the last thing they did that night. I think so. Makes sense. Well, we're interrupted by a hail from Chikote, ordering Paris and Kim to report to the bridge. And I love your line to my final line. Well, what about Maggie? You say, she'll be fine. Let her graze, which is one of the funnier lines in this whole darn episode.

I love it. Good job, Brian. We go to the chapel next. Yep. So, Seamus and Milo are freaking out from this cow, this Maggie turning into a cow, freaking out. We go to the church next to the chapel. And on stage, the doctor is giving a sermon about two farmers that are fighting. And he's talking about, we should all get along. And I love when it cuts over to Grace, Declan.

And she says, I think he might have been drinking the sacramental wine, taking a nip. of the sacramental wine you get her line before that her lie before she said that she goes he's in love with the sound of his own voice that's what she says then she goes into the she's got a couple of peanut gallery lines he does she does she really does so the doctor is giving his sermon he's getting very heated really angry at them for the fighting and not getting along yeah um and totally tonally tonally for me I wasn't sure if screaming was the right choice here personally. I just, I was, I didn't, I didn't get that. I felt like, I got pulled out.

I was like, wait a minute, why is he screaming that much? Like, I don't know what direction he was given or what he was playing. What was he playing? I don't know what, what is he playing at this point, right? So if you're a clergyman, it did seem a little too heated for me. Yes, if you're clergyman, I mean, do you see any Sunday morning televangelists screaming at the top of their lungs at their at their congregation? Not really.

I think if we had known what this story was really about, maybe, you know, but because it's just a story about some farmers fighting and we're not invested in that story, I felt like it probably didn't need to be as hot as it was. Yeah. And maybe the doctor is just enjoying the opportunity to be bombastic and big. And I don't know. I don't know. Maybe.

But it was a little hot for me. It felt real as opposed to comic hot, you know. Yeah. There's a version of being really. bombastic but being funny and this felt almost like the doctor was really invested in this in a way that i didn't quite understand there you go that's exactly my my notes exactly yeah but he does the doctor does cover for us uh once the shamis and milo bring the cow into the chapel they think it's maggie o'haleran they're like you guys this is maggie tom paris is uh evil he turned her into a cow and the doctor covers

he goes, no, it was probably, Tom Parris just likes to play pranks. And they say, no, we saw it with our own eyes. And the doctor says, well, when's the last time you saw Maggie? And they say, last night, she was turned into this cow. And doctor says, no, that settles that. I saw Maggie this morning by her cart tending her flowers. In fact, she's probably there now. He's probably there now.

So, and then he says, you know, mass is over. Leave the cow here. And then they all sort of think that, oh, I was a misconduct. understanding and they all start to exit. Right. And clearly. I was thinking this whole time, though, they brought a real cow onto stage, onto the sound stage.

They did. And cows are not cooperative. No, and you can see when they're bringing the cow in it, cow in. The cow does not want to come inside of that building. It was not happy. And I was a little worried because, you know, those are two grown adult males, but that cow could still. Cal has horns.

Yeah. That was a bowl with horns. Oh, yeah. Okay. That male bull could knock them over very easily and injure those actors. So, you know, that's, that was kind of dangerous, to be honest. Yeah. But we do, we don't see the scene of the doctor doing this, but we assume that it's a doctor who programs Maggie back into human form and sends her to the flower cart where.

Yeah, we see a high, wide shot of Maggie appearing, beaming in to the flower cart. She's kind of disoriented. James and Milo come over. She says, I feel like I just woke up from the strangest dream. Yeah. But she doesn't remember going to sleep. She only remembers going for a walk with her. And they ask her, well, what can, yeah, what can you remember?

She can't remember anything about last night what happened. And so they say, well, what do you remember about the dream? Yeah. She says, I was walking around town with nothing but a bell around my neck. She talks about walking to church and everyone was staring at her. She says, Seamus, you were there. Milo, you were there. Well, at this point, I think Seamus and Milo feel like something's afoot, and they decide that

they need to go back to Sullivan's to have another drink. And so we do go back to Sullivan's. And now everyone's in there. I mean, it's it's the entire gang and they're all talking, they're trading stories. Harry, changing the weather with Milo, Mary falling down a well. Next thing you know, Katie O'Clair is talking to Mary without a scratch on Little Mary. Grace after Mass saying that she saw Father. Mulligan, vanish into thin air. And even, even Maggie talking about how Neelix. Oh, I love that line.

Like, now that's someone who, if he's not a leprechaun, you know, who, you know, who would. Who is it? Who is it? Who would be a leprechaun if it isn't Neelix? Because he does. Yeah. Kind of look like a leopard. He looks like a lepercon.

He does. He does. Great scene. Michael Oloven shows up in this scene as they're talking, getting all wound up. And he tries to calm him down. He's like, what do you want to do? You want to put him in front of a firing squad? Like, let's calm down, deal with this like civilized people.

He stops them from getting too out of control. And then we go to a dinner scene. And Michael and Katie O'Claire, aka Janeway, are having a romantic dinner by a roaring fire. I love that fire. It was beautiful. He gives her a book. He hands her a copy of a book entitled The Fairy Queen. By Edmund Spencer.

And by Edmund Spencer, she says, oh, I've never read this. And he's, and then he suggests to her that, you know, the people around town think that there's some really strange things happening, unholy, magic, people vanishing. And she even asked at one point, she says, oh, and who am I in this in their story? Am I the fairy queen? So the appropriateness of the book that he gave her. Yes. And, but then he says, you know what, I don't, I really don't.

know who you are actually yeah and he says to be honest uh i talk to my friends over in county claire where you say you're from nobody knows you nobody and she says oh well you've been talking to the wrong people and no he says i have a lot of friends i nobody knows you yeah and so he's checked in on her yeah he's checked in on her and he says what are you hiding and yeah she admits that she has hidden some things but she cares about him and that's why she didn't share it because She had no other choice under the circumstances. And then she looks back at the fire, and there's this shot of her. She's looking at the fire and thinking.

And it just felt really melodramatic and forced me. I got to say, I love this scene. It was a very simple scene, but I was like, why did she have to look back like that? And I don't know, it just felt a little theatrical. Well, she takes the easy way out in this scene, in that she ends the program. She just ends the whole program. Computer and program. Well, frankly, she's shocked because, like, you know, he's saying,

look, I don't even know where you're going at night, you know, and I can't get a hold of you. There's times I just want to say hello to you. I can't even do that. So these are all questions that no holiday character has done in the past as ever engaged in. And so she's confused. Hey, Garrett, have you been traveling this summer? Oh, my gosh.

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extra. See Mint Mobile for details. We jump to the Voyager corridors where Janeway is still in period peace clothing or cosplay, as the youngens call it. And she asked Tom, what is going on with the holiday characters? What did you do? What did you do? Exactly. No characters should be asking questions like Michael did. And what does Tom say? Well, I just added a few things to make the characters more realistic. And Janeway goes, well, something's wrong. Something is definitely wrong. Now we're in engineering where Janeway and Tom have arrived. Harry and Balana are there. Harry says, you know, this is the first time we've tried to run a holodeck program nonstop. Torres says that there are damaged subroutines in all of the characters files, every single one of them.

So Janeway says, shut down the program, repair the damage systems. So now we have the next scene where Harry and Tom are in what I wrote. I wrote initially Holodeck 1, but that's incorrect. It's the Holodeck Lab is what we're in. What? I didn't even know that was a holodeck lab. Yeah, because you talk about it in the scene, actually. So Harry and Tom are working on repairing the program.

Harry brings up a very important point that, as he recalled, everything was fine until someone started turning people into cows. So Tom asked the computer to display Fairhaven character Michael Sullivan. He is edgy and completely aware that he is no longer in Fairhaven. And this is a shock to Tom. Tom says he's not supposed to be aware that he's in the last. So this is where you say, you call it the lab. Yeah, and he's ready for a fight.

He is. He's going to break some heads, he says, or something like that. And Harry says his perceptual filters are malfunctioning. Harry then pushes a few buttons, and he says he's fixed it. And while this is happening, Michael is turned around away from Tom and Harry. He's looking around the room. He's looking around. He does 360.

And while he's listening, with his back to us, you can see him thinking like, okay, I'm going to play I'm going to play along. Exactly. So he basically plays dead, so to speak. Yeah. Yeah. So he fakes it. And he acts just like everything's fine. He talks about Liam wanting a rematch with Harry. And Harry and Tom are very proud of themselves. We're patting each other on the back. And Harry notices that all of the other characters in Fairhaven have the same malfunction. He says that we can use the primary control port in Sullivan's pub, and we can reset all the perceptual filters in one go, which is something that Tom is excited and happy that we can do that all at once, instead of having to individually repair them. We basically send Michael Sullivan back into his bar, where he does

reappear in Sullivan's, but then the next shot is him running outside of Sullivan's. He sees little Danny. Did you get Danny's credits? Little Danny? He does say something right there. I don't even know if they even listed i didn't he's not listed it as a credit yeah didn't see any credit for yeah all right an extra or something you know well and they just did some yeah loop group added his his lined or something like that right he did have a line a little brief one but he asked danny to go fetch doc fitzgerald bring him back to the church or the chapel now we now jump to the bridge we're at harry station where tom and harry are talking about michael being aware even after they thought his perceptual filters were reset. Yeah. They realized now that he was just playing a lot of that they hadn't

really fixed him. Yeah. And Janeway makes a comment about the fact that he's a Irish hologram and that's, you know, they're feisty and therefore that's why he's doing that. Harry has resequenced algorithms that should repair the malfunctioning character files. Tom and Harry leave the bridge and they pass Tauric at Tuvok station. No clue where Tuvok is at this point, but we do see Tarek. Or Janeway's wearing a wig in this, like a different wig. This scene out of all the scenes jumped out at me is like, wait, I feel like this wig I've never seen before and or something. Her hair looked different on the bridge for some reason. Okay.

Yeah. I didn't pick up on that, but very observant of you. She sits down at her chair. Look a little different to me. Like straighter or shorter? What do you mean? Shorter and straighter. Yeah.

It was definitely a wig. Yeah. But it was just, you know, she had a lot of different hairdos on our show. This is one that I was just like, it felt a little like I hadn't seen it quite like this and never remember seeing it again like this. So they might have tried a new wig for the scene and said afterwards, said, nah, that doesn't work. Yeah, never used it.

Possibly. Possibly. But yeah, Jane Wayne Chucote talked. She sits down and she doesn't know what to do about, you know, this, this holodeck. And what if they can't fix Michael? you know what if they can't fix him well she calls him her boyfriend her boyfriend do you notice that right she doesn't say michael she's my boyfriend i've got a malfunctioning boyfriend basically what am i thinking i love that line and choket is not even shocked by any of this news or i can't believe like yeah

you know what he's doing he's playing this is supposed to be yeah maybe he's playing cool he's playing cool he's playing it's super cool they are meant to be we all know that and he's just sitting there going like you know what, I'm just going to hear her out. I'm going to let her have her little dalliances on the side with holodeck characters. And I know she'd come back to me in the long run, you know. If you love something or you love someone, let them free. What do they say?

What's the word? If you love someone, set them free. And if the love is true, they come back to you, it was meant to be exactly. So there you go. That's where I think Chikote is. That may be where he's at. He also says to her, just tell the truth. Yeah.

You know, that's the advice that you've given me. just tell the truth and she says she can't do that so then he says well then you will have to get creative whatever that means yeah i love it we go to church next yeah michael is there he uh tells fitzgerald that he was that he went to the other world that to another world he was taken away yeah and they were talking about changing people and he says they were talking like i wasn't even there And he knows that, that, you know, Harry and Tom are going to be headed to the pub to do something, you know, change all of them, do something to them. And he doesn't know exactly what their plan is, but we have to be prepared. Yeah.

And so you can see that Michael is now convinced that these guys are dangerous like the rest of the town. Yeah. So we go in the pub. We see outside the window, Tom and Harry with lanterns. kind of walking by the shadows of them and then they come into the empty pub. I thought it was a really cool shot. It was a cool way to bring us in. We go in the pub in Sullivan's pub.

Nobody's there. So we head over to the wall, open up a holodeck panel. And we start working the panel. And then the camera goes behind the panel. And we see over by that front door that Grace had been following us. She sees us. She pokes her head up over the little device. that's sassy little grace sassy grace and she spotted us so we go to the church next yeah

and everybody's gathered there it's like in frankenstein like they've got guns and porches and lanterns they're ready to get the spirit focus shamis starts off by saying if we're going to fight them we have to use the right ammunition and he talks about this book that he got from biddy ramsie before she passed on and she knew a thing or two about fairy magic and how to fight it so everything she learned, she learned from this book. And Michael has fairy incantations in the book. Yes. Yeah.

And Michael says he doesn't want to use the gun. Right. He doesn't want to shoot them. Yeah. And yeah, Seamus says, I've got something better. Yeah. Incantations. And he gets, and then he starts talking to the crowd.

And he just gets the crowd riled up. And then that's when, just when they're riled up, grace shows up. She says, they're in the pub. And out everybody goes. So they've got the guns. They've got incantations. This is not looking good for Harry and Tom. Yeah.

They come running in the pub. They throw a net on us. Do you remember that? I don't remember that scene. I do. You do? Yeah, because I kept thinking, man, we didn't even make any move to avoid the back. We didn't fight back at all.

I feel like even my hands went up and helped bring the net over. It's like we made it easier. for them. I think I said, here, hand us the net. We'll put it over ourselves. No, I think I even had a discussion with David Livingston about this entire scene, this whole sequence that's about to happen, starting with inside Sullivan's pub. I said, listen, aren't we going to try to dodge these people or avoid the net?

Or we're just going to let the net fall on us? And he's like, yeah, well, you have to do it that way. I said, okay. So I just went along with it. Yeah, it looked a little silly. Yeah. They pull us away from the panel. We're under the net that we help them put on us.

Yes. And Tom's saying, you know, just let us explain he's trying to talk to them. Right. And then they see the control panel. Right. And they shoot the panel. Yes, Seamus says, shoot it. And yes.

Shoot it. They shoot the panel. Computer says safety protocols and controls are offline. Yeah. And then they shoot it again. Yeah, they shoot it again. emergency overrides are malfunctioning but this is when paris says computer freeze program and i love this computer says 62 percent compliance and only a little bit more than half are frozen which is

awesome i love that and it's great because they're kind of like like holograms you know you can see through the ones that are frozen but the other ones the other ones uh take off and exit the pub with tom and harry yeah and honestly that should have given us a lot of time because i think all the denizens of fairhaven would have looked at their fellow fair haven citizens that were frozen and would have been so freaked out that it would have given us a much more time to get away. But, you know, they're on our heels. They run out. We have a little head start. We start running out when 62% compliance happens. Yeah.

But out on the street, Tom says, computer, exit. And you see an exit sort of fritz, like, yeah, a little arch for a holiday exit, but it fritzes and we can't get out. And the townspeople grab them. I love this scene out on the street because it was one shot. It was just high and wide. And I really liked it. It had a nice choreography. It felt cinematic.

It made the street look good. Good choice. Told the story without close-ups or any of that. Good choice. David Livingston, good choice. We go out to space. There's a fly-by, a Voyager for a little transition. And we're in the briefing room where the whole crew is gathered, Janeway.

Do you remember when we were talking about this, what we remember about this in the beginning? and, you know, the question from your side was, were there any aliens interacting with us in this episode? None. This whole episode is about Tom changing Maggie into a cow, everything glitching, and it's just us and those people of Fairhaven. And then now the whole briefing room, which is usually where we get out of, you know,

where we try to plan and strategize when we're dealing with the aliens of the week, but now we're dealing with the holiday characters of the week. It's who we're dealing with. Well, here's another thing. They talk about, they said, somebody says, transporters can't get a lock on them. I think Chacote said that. And I was like, wait a minute, why?

We're on our own ship. Like, and the answer is too many stray photons. Photons. Yeah, photons. Too many stray photons. They can't get a lock. Yeah. Can't, you can't.

Well, we've gotten transport a logs. They're on the ship. I know, but there's just. Right around the corner. I hear you. you, but it made total sense to me. I know it's ridiculous to you, but all those malfunctions are messing up.

They can't get a solid lock. Compensate. You're right. Yeah, yeah. Then usually we do compensate. But in this case, it doesn't work. It does not work. No way to get them out.

You know, they don't want to shut down the program and lose all these characters. And let's face it, Captain Janeway doesn't want to lose her boyfriend. Her boyfriend. She still wants her boyfriend. So, yeah, Bilanah says pull the plug. Neelix goes, no, we can't destroy the program. We'll lose the story and the people. Janeway even says, that's true.

Let's find a less drastic solution. And Balana says, with all due respect, Captain, Michael Sullivan can be reprogrammed. Tom and Harry can. Cannot. Yes. I love that. She cared about us. She cared about us.

She's the only one in that room. Yes. That cares enough to just turn it off. Oh, yeah. And we would be fine. Like, it's not that hard, you guys. No. Anyway.

But the plan, the plan is to send the doctor in with these transport enhancers that will be stuck on our bodies and then they can beam us out. That's the point. Why don't when we go on an away mission, we always take these transport enhancers and then we'll never have a problem getting transported out of trouble. If we have these things. It's like those things that, you know, when you go to the Apple store and they give you those little Wi-Fi things that you can stick into your travel luggage like that and you can detect where your bags, your loss baggage are and if it's no longer. Yeah, we need a little tag.

A little transport. But, you know, to be honest, those are big transport enhancers. They were pretty big. They were not, they were not microscopic. They're massive. Yeah. Okay. But you're right.

We could. We could easily transport. We go to church. We should always have them. We should have them all the time. We go to the church. Tom and Harry are tied up. They're doing incantations on them.

Well, did you notice? There's a salt. There's a line of salt around us. And that's how you stop demons and whatnot from evil spirits. Yeah, it's how you corral the evil, unholy things in the world. Yeah, they've got a salt circle around us. They're doing these incantations. I love when, I think it's Seamus, goes back to the other world.

And then it cuts to us and we're both like rolling our eyes. And then he says it again, back to the other world. Everyone's throwing holy water on us at this point, right? They're flicking water. It's very funny. My notes where now this episode is an episode of Supernatural. This is what we're watching right now. We've gone there, which is fine.

I like Supernatural, so it's okay for me. But Milo brings the tools that they had when they were working on the holodeck panel. It brings the toolbox over. And Seamus picks up the pad, and he says, this is the charm they used to change Maggie into a cow. Yes. So he thinks that pad is some kind of talisman. Michael tries to stick up for us. He does.

You know, he's like, leave him alone, right? He says, calm down, everybody. He's trying to stick up for him. That's when the doctor appears. Yes. And the doctor appears. Doctor appears. He goes, sewers, sewers, he's yelling at them.

He is. Again. Screaming his lungs out. He says, you know, this is a church. It's not a prison. Yeah. How dare you be doing this? Yeah. They don't buy it.

No. Chamis goes over. He's like, we saw that, we saw you disappear. We're not believing you anymore. No, the lines written by Brian Fuller says, Seamus says, quite a rousing sermon, father, but I'm afraid you're not going to find too many takers tonight. So I love the writing here.

Yeah. Yeah. And then they pull off his mobile emitter. I know. They look over at his mobile emitter. They're like, what is this thing? That's another talisman. Another talisman.

another talisman, they pull it off, and then the doctor sort of fritzes because, I guess, his program is transferred from the mobile emitter when they pull it off. Yeah. Into the hollow matrix. Yeah. Now, now, so we jumped to, you know, the doctor's all tied up with us right at this point. We jumped at the bridge, and Janeway is saying, beam him out of there. And Tuvok says, oh, his program's been disengaged for the mobile emitter.

And now, guess what? He is just as vulnerable as we are at this point. Yeah. Yeah, he's stuck in there. In fact, he's even more vulnerable in a way because he's tied into kind of, he seems to be more vulnerable for some reason. Yeah, I guess he could. Yeah, no, he could actually start malfunctioning himself because he's now part of that malfunctioning program. Yeah, exactly. We jump back to the church, St. Mary's and Seamus. Seamus is now asking, you know, and what are you planning on doing with these?

He's holding the transport enhancers. And Kim, Kim's just blunt. He's like, those are the devices that are. are going to allow us to leave and you know just pin them to our coats and we'll be on our way and milo doesn't believe it he's like okay you're going to have more powers if if you if you do this you know shamus is is uh saying the same thing and michael says michael sort of feels like no this is uh this is not a talisman this is not some type of unholy thing it's a machine so he's much more practical he has he's a voice of reason but not shamus and milo who basically egg on the entire town to be against us. And then I think Seamus tries hypnosis, right? This is where

Shamus pulls out a spoon on a string or something. And he says, I'm going to hypnotize that you doctor. And the doctor's like, oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, yes. Hypnosis won't work on me. Yes. And I'm going to say the doctor's eyes. But I'm just going to say right now, for all the yelling and screaming, which I thought were not the right choices for the doctor to make in this episode. This scene makes up for everything. The point with a bet. It's so funny.

It's so funny. And I'm just like, yes. So funny when he gets hypnotized and the spoons going and his eyes are back and forth. And then he just, he's out. Oh, totally. But the thing is when he says that, you know, I can't be hypnotized.

This is ridiculous. We do cut to the bridge, right? Where Chikote and Janeway have a couple of lines about how the doctor's program is, they can't isolate him. longer. Yeah. Isolated.

It's integrated. Exactly. Vulnerable now. Yep. And then now when they come back to St. Mary's, he's completely hypnotized, which is wonderful. Completely hypnotized. He's spilling the beans.

Federation. Starship and Trepacistrate number. He's just, he's giving it all up. It just, it makes me. Everything. Oh my gosh.

Did you ever watch volunteers, the movie volunteers with Tom Hanks and Rita Hanks and they're basically. No, I don't think I ever saw it. Oh, God. They work for the Peace Corps. and they are they're overseas in Thailand and basically the communist Chinese army so they come in John Candy is also in the Peace Corps with him and he's this diehard guy from watch the state of Washington he's Tom Tuttle from Tacoma is his name and he and he's he gets captured by the Chinese

communist army and he's like you know there's nothing you can do there's nothing that you can do that I will change and start sprouting any communist manifesto and by the end of it he's wearing like a communist uniform. Do they hypnotize him? Oh, they, well, basically, they brainwash him, similar to how the doctor said, you can't hypnotize me. They brainwashed John Kennedy's character. And at the end, he's like the best, you know,

soldier. They're like, okay, state the three tenets of communism. And he's like speaking everything. But the funniest part of the, at the end of the movie, the entire regiment, they're marching. And he's taught them the Washington State fight song. So they're like, go fight, fight, fight for Washington State, the entire communist, you know,

Regiment. It's so funny. Anyway, that's my little reference from this, yes. Well, so the doctor spilled all the beans. Michael realizes now, wait a minute, it's not another world. This must be some sort of vessel. Right. And Seamus says something that if he can get their true name, then he can get them to... It says, if you can get a spirit to say, reveal their true name, you will render yourself impervious to the charms. That's what it was. So Milo asked, what is your true name? to the doctor. And of course, the doctor doesn't have a name. And he says, well, I haven't decided on one yet. Yeah, he doesn't. They go back and forth. There's some funny bits. Very funny. But in the end, Michael realizes the only person that he can talk to to get the information he needs is

the hypnotized doctor. And he says, how do I get to the ship that Katie is on? How do I get there? And the EMH, our doctor slowly looks at the mobile emitter. And we know that he spilled the beams on on that too. So we jumped to the bridge. Tuvok has a notification at his console that the mobile emitter has been activated. So Janeway says to lock onto the signal and beam who they think is the doctor to the bridge. But it's Michael. Michael's on the bridge now.

Michael appears on the bridge. And then we go to a lot. That's the commercial break. Yeah. But we come right back and Michael's like, what is this place? He's looking around the bridge completely kind of overwhelmed. He says, my cousin went to America. once and saw some very strange things.

And Janeway says, you're not in America. But he does know that it's Voyager. Yeah. And Janeway takes a moment. She looks over at Chukotay and she tells him the truth. Yeah. She says, I'll show you my ship. And Chakotay stands up, you know, captain.

Yeah. And she goes to tell him the truth. All right. So now Jane Lee is given Michael a tour. They're in the corridors. And he starts off by saying, so this really is a starship. But how can this be possible? Because they're right by some windows.

They can look out on the Starfield that we can see outside. And then Janeway brings up H.G. Wells book, the Time Machine. She says, have you ever read The Time Machine by H.G. Wells? And he says, oh, so you've traveled back in time then? And Jamie says, yes, in a manner of speaking. And as they're walking, they pass a couple of crew members that Michael recognizes as Patrick Gibson and his cousin, Frank. They're in his pub every Saturday night for the Rings tournament.

and they work on the wharf. And Janeway says, well, guess what? You're going to find a lot of familiar faces of Voyager because we have been visiting your town for months. Michael's curious. He's like, well, why? And Jamie says, we're explorers. And he's like, well, you know, I'm not sure if I buy that

because there's probably a lot more interesting places other than Fairhaven to explore. And then Janeway kind of brings it back to a little bit of romanticism. She goes, well, can you think of any place you'd rather be? And so then Michael says, well, how long are you going to stay then? You know, what's the deal here? And Janeway says that depends if we're still welcome. Michael says his door's always open, but, you know, you're the captain of a starship.

I'm a barkeep. And Jamie says, well, just because we're from different worlds, it doesn't mean that we can't care for each other. And that's where you hear it off camera, Tuvok saying Tuvok to Janeway. Janeway says, go ahead. Tuvok says the situation has escalated. Evidently, the townspeople have started to pile kindling at the base of three lamppost, which now means our three heroes, Tom, Harry, and the doctor are about to be burned at the steak. Not good.

Not good. We go to the church on the holodeck and Michael and Janeway enter. And she's in her uniform. The whole town turns to her. But here's my thought. How did Janeway get back into the hollow program if all the controls were offline? Like I know how Michael got onto the bridge with the mobile emitter. yeah but if it was easy enough just to walk onto the holodeck why didn't they do that in the first

place yeah like how did janeway what was different about the program the malfunctioning program if the controls were all offline safety protocols offline there's no way to get in there and save them we said in the briefing room we can't transport them out how the hell did janeway just walk into the program yeah anyway yeah that's true so anyway janeway's in there michael's in their church the people are still wound up mylo points a gun at them uh michael tells the crowd that he has been to voyager he's been to their vessel yeah and he brought katy back and she wants to resolve things peacefully yeah and she explains to everyone that that they use technology not magic and they don't want to destroy their town and um and then sullivan michael sullivan explains that you know they've

actually helped they're not here to hurt you guys they're right they're here to help right and they created clear days when it was rainy and harry made it clear and they saved children and then somebody says well they turn maggie into a cow and paris says i promise not to do that again and looks over at janeway she rolls her eyes as you roll her eyes as you get a good roll i roll yes as you should as you should naughty tom tom's promise yes yes but she's But she takes the mobile emitter, moves it, moves it back to the doctor. Right. And he wakes up, basically.

Out of his-out-of-his-hypnotic trance, right? Out of his hypnosis, yes. And Michael Sullivan convinces the townspeople to not harm these people that they're friends. And he says he uses Janeway's quote. He says, just because we're from different worlds doesn't mean that we can't care for each other. He stole that from Janeway. He sure did. stole that quote right from her lips.

But once he says it, Janeway's magic words, everybody calms down and it looks like we're safe. We have a nice space flyby here. Yeah. And then we go into engineering. And yeah, there's Torres. She's complaining about the holodec again. Yeah. She again says, we're going to have to put a limit on the.

time this program runs yeah and janeway agrees she says sorry tom no more open door policy and um balana asks should we purge all the characters memories yeah janeway says no no we've learned to accept alien species let's hope the people of fair haven will learn to accept us so we're she's going to go with it keep the program the way it is they're going to know who we are and janeway says but before we shut the program down and begin repairs, what do you say, one more round at Sullivan's my treat. And this whole scene, by the way, in engineering is one shot. This is often I really love oneers. Yeah. But this scene is literally a four shot that just the camera doesn't move. We don't move. We're just standing there talking facing the camera. I feel like I remember

shooting the scene. Yeah. And I remember it being very late. Yeah. And we were behind. And I think this was a moment where, you know, David Livingston had to just shoot. He had to make it fast. He couldn't get creative. Had to make it fast. Yeah. Yeah.

This was one shot. Yeah. I was going to say he had both Mary Howard and and Brad Eucobian coming down, breathing down on his neck saying, look, we need to, we need to wrap this up. We cannot keep drawing this out, which was typical. We did draw things out, you know. It just happened that way with him directing.

So, yeah, perfection. Yeah, they were the long, they were the long days. The longest days. with David, yes. We go out to the street. How do you like this laughter that we start the scene with, you and I? I thought it was kind of weird. I thought it was the fakesst laugh.

Oh, my God. I was like, we, that was the fakesst laugh as the camera sort of tilts up off the ground to find us walking down the street, Harry and Tom, and we're like, it was so cheesy. Yeah, it was cheesy. Anyway. Yeah. But all as well now.

All as well. All as well. Yeah. Milo wants to play rings. Maggie says hello to Harry. And Harry's like, hey, Tom, I'll catch up with you later. He's off with his girlfriend. Shamis asks if he could use this, their fancy machine to help find a pot of gold.

I like how Tom, as they go into the bar, Tom says, just follow the rainbow, Seamus. But I did a little Irish accent on it. You did. you snuck it in there, buddy. A little bit, even though they didn't want us to. Good job. And Michael is getting a gift from Janeway at the end. He opens it up and it's a book, a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, which is by Mark Twain and also one of my favorite books as a kid. I love that book. I love that book. It was just one of the best books for me as a kid. Yeah, she gives him the book. she says it's a book about two people from very different times who fall in love, which is kind of what

she told him they were time traveling to help him understand. Yeah. Well, Michael says, I guess she's in love with this guy. She is. And Michael says, sounds familiar. Maybe I've read it. And he says, thank you, Katie. Or Catherine now, is it? Janeway sort of smarts a little bit. And Michael says, well, they say, if you know, a spirit's true name, that it renders you impervious against her charm. Do you think there's any truth in that? Janeway says, not a word. And he's like, I'm glad to hear it. Again, nice little interchange written by Brian Fuller at the very end

of this episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. All right. So everything's back to normal. Happy ending. I still struggle with Janeway falling in love with a hologram. I don't know. What's your lesson?

My lesson is I'm going to steal my lesson from Janeway and say just because we're from different worlds, doesn't mean we can't care for each other. Well, that's, that's a good one of us. You stole it. Well, you stole it from Janeway.

I know, you stole it from Michael who stole it from Janeway is what happened. And so it's a, it's a double steal. But it's a very important message because, you know, in the times that we're living in right now, they're very divisive times. And, you know, that is the message that everyone needs to take to heart. I also have a few messages. Number one, why fix something that isn't broken or in the more. colloquial if it ain't broke why fix it also why adjust something that is already working fine is

another way of saying it don't muddle things up all right and then my other other lesson is don't from the doctor don't let confusion and fear get the best of you because i do believe that that is the the beginning of mob mentality when you let confusion and fear get the best of you yeah all right so that's right our lessons for this episode episode. Your rating? Good lessons. Yeah. My rating is very high for this one. I really enjoyed this episode. It had all the things. It had all our characters involved in some way. It was a great script. I just, I thought it was really good. So I'm going to give it an 8.5. Wow. Yeah. I'm going to go higher. I like this. I'm going to hire. Yeah. I'm going to go 8.9. And I'm going to go with

the captain and admiral's average rating is going to be an 8.2. two. Well, let's see. Yeah. The average captain and admiral rating for Spirit Folk is, oh, what? 6.2. Well, I got the point two right. So I'm happy with that.

Oh, my gosh. You and I both love this episode, but it's not very popular. No. I mean, there's a ton of holes in it for me with like, just logic holes. Yeah. It was just fun. It's a fun episode. it was well written and you know yeah i'd stick with my 8.5 we liked it and i'm shocked that i got

the point two right now funny okay all right everyone thank you for tuning in to robbie and i's recap and discussion of spirit folk join us next week when we tackle the episode ashes to ashes and for all of our patreon patrons please stay tuned for your bonus material Thank you.