The Delta Flyers - The Haunting of Deck Twelve

Episode Date: February 13, 2023

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is The Haunting of Deck Twelve. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.The Haunting of Deck Twelve: Neelix tells the ship's children a ghost story, about an electromagnetic life force that holds Voyager hostage while trying to make contact with Janeway.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, Kate Mulgrew, Brannon Braga, & Bryan FullerAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co-Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Kelton Rochelle, Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Daniel de Rooy, Chris Knapp, Michelle Z, Janet K Harlow, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Elaine Ferguson, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Kelly Brown, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, William McEvoy, Sarah Thompson, Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Adm. Bill "Seoulman" Yu, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Ashley Stokey, Lori Tharpe, Mary Burch, AJC, Nicholaus Russell, Dominique Weidle, Lisa Robinson, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlman, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Barbara S., Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Megan Chowning, Tae Phoenix, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Bronwen Duffield, Brandon May, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Jeremy Mcgraw, Jason Bonnett, Ali S, Danie Crofoot, Ian Ramsey, Feroza Mehta, Michael Dismuke, Jonathan Brooks, Gemma Laidler, & Rob TraverseAnd our Producers:James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Ann Marie Segal, Chloe E, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Jocelyn Pina, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Matthew Cutler, Maxine Soloway, Barbara Beck, Species 2571, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Scott Lakes, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Tara Polen, Jenna Appleton, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Jamason Isenburg, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Jennifer Jelf, Justin Weir, Mike Chow, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, Clark Ochikubo, David J Manske, Roxane Ray, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Cindy Holland, Will Forg, Max Wilson, Ryan Tomei, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Russell Nemhauser, Lawrence Green, Christian Koch, Lisa Gunn, Lauren Rivers, Jennifer B, & Dean ChewThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at [e-mail].”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry. As we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager, your two hosts along this journey are my fellow Voyager actor, who in 2002 also played the character of Matt in a season two episode of Crossing Jordan, Mr. Robert Duncan McNeil and myself, your favorite friend. and Garrett Wong. Remember, you can get the full version of this podcast by signing up to become a patron at patreon.com forward slash the Delta Flyers. Do you remember that credit?

That is such a weird. That may be the last time I legitimately acted. And it, it probably was a TV movie. It wasn't the TV movie? A TV movie, which TV movie? The one where you had to be on kind of, you know, a little hallucinics and stuff. Oh, that wasn't a TV movie. That was a horror film. That was a feature that that was before Crossing Jordan then, right? Yeah, we finished the series the last season of Voyager and then I went straight out to do that movie. We shot it out near the Hamptons in New York. Okay, so that's 2001, that you did that. 2001, spring of 2001 and then the summer of 2001, this was the, I think the season premiere of Crossing Jordan.

I feel like it was the first, it was a two-part premiere. Okay. So it was shooting in July, and I had decided before Crossing Jordan, I decided to take a year off because we had just finished the series and I just did that movie and I was like, I want to try this directing thing. And Crossing Jordan called and I don't know if they offered it to me or maybe I went in audition. I don't remember. But I was really not, I didn't want to do it. I was just like, I want to do this directing thing. And as soon as I got it and started filming, I was like, oh, I don't want to be doing this.

Like, I want to be direct. I remember very vividly, like, going, nope, I'm not doing this again for a while. I don't want to. I was just, I don't know. You were just over it at the time. I was just over it. So I don't even remember what the story was. I think it was a crime show, right?

Crossing Jordan was a medical show or a crime? I don't know it was a legal show. A legal show? Okay. Yeah. I don't remember. I don't remember. I feel like...

You don't even remember the principals in this show, do you? I don't remember anything about it. Oh, my goodness. I just, all I remember is being on set. I was over at Universal and then we shot in Hollywood at some restaurant or club or something. Yeah. I just remember thinking, like, I don't want to be doing this.

Like, I want to be directing, like, because it was a guest star that didn't have much to do. And I was just bored. Yeah. Anyway, that's that. So this credit was your swan song as an actor. It was kind of my swan song. I didn't know it at the time.

Yeah. But I think I remember because I had, we had finished Voyager and I went to do that movie, which was a super low budget, cheesy horror film. Yes. And then I had been offered the chance to go to Broadway and replace someone in a Broadway show. What? And I remember struggling because it was a six month contract and I was like, I don't know. know if I want to go to New York for six months. My kids were young. What was the show?

It was cabaret on Broadway. Oh, wow. And they, they offered me Cliff to take over for Cliff for six months. That would have been fun. It would have been fun. And I really struggled. And I was like, ultimately, I went, no, I don't, I don't want to go to New York right now. I want to stay here and try to direct. My kids are in school. I don't want to pull, you know, do all that. Pull them out. Yeah. Okay. So I had passed on the Broadway show. And then there I am doing this tiny guest spot and the two-parter and I was like really like I pass up a Broadway show but to do this yeah this is my like this is what I'm going to do no I'm going to direct if I'm going to pass in the broad show I'm going to direct yeah it was really like all that stuff

coming together right no the stars that's what I remember of that yeah that's what I remember of that okay okay I don't remember if it was a crime show or a or a medical show or a legal I have no idea but i remember it was the end of my pursuing acting jobs wow okay all right well thank you for filling me in on that yeah appreciate that all right so this week's episode yes you ready are you ready what is it the haunting of deck 12 oh yeah the haunting of deck 12 okay okay let's go watch this episode we will be right back with our recap and discussion of the haunting of deck 12 see you soon everyone All right, everyone. We are back from watching The Haunting of Deck 12.

I'm so scared. I'm scared too. First of all, I want to say in the bonus material for our Patreon patrons, you talked about how the TurboLift just completely skipped deck 12, like it's a missing day. And you weren't entirely off, like things were kind of messing up. So I was like, oh, I'm impressed. I know. I just have good instincts.

What we were 1,000% off on was our guesstimate that David Livingston was doing the next episode. We were completely off. He did the penultimate. He did the penultimate episode. David Livingston. And he did a great job with this episode.

He really well directed. Oh, my goodness. And we did not get the writer, correct. I said Ken Biller, and he's part of the team. Is he part of the? Yeah. So the screenplay, the teleplay was by Mike Sussman, Ken Biller, and Brian Fuller. Oh, right. Okay. The group effort. Mike Sussman came up with the story, and then they all wrote it together.

My guess is because this was near the end of season six, and they probably were like, this is a great idea, but we have to have a script in three days. You take the first act. You take the second act. I'll take the third act, right? Exactly. Okay. Well, then that makes sense. were scrambling and needed everybody writing at the same time. I got to tell you, this collaboration worked. I mean, if this is the way to have a good script, maybe they should always be under the gun

and split it between three writers because I thought it was a fabulous script. And well directed by David, be perfectly honest. Okay, so let's do our poetry synopsis for The Haunting of Dark 12th. Let's start with your haiku. Thank you. Neelix, babysits. story time is scary time was it real or not wow that was good you captured a good synopsis in that

i love it i felt it i felt it i cannot wait for your limerick as you know i'm always so happy to hear this so here we go with our limerick synopsis of haunting of deck 12 here we go a scary nebula so voyager powers down until it clears. The Borg kids need a sitter, so Neelix volunteers. An alien takes over the ship, but Janeway won't lose her grip. The moral is, don't be controlled by your fears. Oh, wow. You put the lesson in there, too? That's amazing. I did. Yeah. Huh. I like that. Okay. You had babysitter in your high-kir. Yeah, yeah, yes. We had a little bit of overlap there. But there you go. It was nice. Yes, it was. was um our guest stars yes everybody the guest stars in this episode we have seen before so we don't even

need to go through their stuff we've talked about them but we'll list him here we have yeah manu and terami as eachab yes marley mclean as mazotti zoe mcclellan as tall sellus which i did not know she was in other episodes i was like what she's back again i know and i have a big scene with her so i was a little confused yeah yeah but i thought she was used very well in this episode She was. It was sort of the lower deck sort of innocent, scared. Oh, yeah. Used very well.

We also had Kurt and Cody Weatherill as the twins. Rezi and Aban, I think. Yeah. So everybody's familiar faces, which I love when that kind of thing can happen. Yes, we know that. All right. Yes, we do. All right.

Let's get into it. Let's just jump right. It's a scary story. It is. You started up. Start us in Mess Hall. Well, the first thing, first thing is we see a space fly by. And immediately we know this.

This is, I mean, from the title, we know it's going to be scary, potentially. Yeah. The space flyby, the music was creepy. It was scary. Omnis. That's the other thing I forgot to talk about. The music was amazing. Yeah.

All the background music was very, very good for this episode, yes. We go from our space flyby, our ominous music, into the mess hall. And Neelix is there. He's shutting off the burners. He's cleaning up. He has the computer turn the lights out. But he seems anxious. He sure does.

And he's turning things off. And then he goes to the doors. He's trying to exit. And suddenly seven of nine pops in and scares him. And he's kind of high-fitched like, huh, like you yell. But he makes a lot of noises. He does, but very believable. Good job.

Ethan Phillips. I definitely believe that he was scared. It was on the edge. And did you notice? So they have a little exchange. She says, sorry, you know, sorry I didn't mean to scare you. And he says, well, I'm just a little jumpy, considering what happened last time. Right. So now here's a clue to something. Yeah. I mean,

okay, my whole question to you is this whole story that he tells is a watered down version of the truth or it is completely fabricated by him. I think it's completely fabricated by him. Really? Okay. I do. But they don't, you know, in the end, spoiler alert, you don't know if any of this is true. I like to believe that this really did happen in some way, shape, or form. I think he made it all up. very cleverly, but he kind of scared himself at the same time. Like, sometimes when you, you get, I mean, I've been on projects where I'm working on it, directing or whatever. Yeah.

And you sort of take on the life of what you're working on. You know what I mean? Yes. It starts to feel the mood of it and all starts to feel real. So I feel like that might have been kind of what was going on. Okay. But did you notice in the scene? So they have their little exchange.

She says, you know, you need to watch the board kids. And he says, she does say that there's going to be a power wide shut or a shipwide shutdown of the main power. Right. And she says, you know, you need to watch the board kiss. He goes, well, what if they ask questions? And she says, oh, you'll figure it out. During this exchange, this quick little scene, I felt like Jerry was about to laugh. And I feel like when they were shooting her close up, I feel like Ethan Phillips was goofing off and trying to make her laugh or something.

because she just had a smile on her face. Like, stop doing that, Ethan. Yeah, we've talked about this before. Ethan's pride and joy. One of the things he loved to do was when it was your close up, he would like to say his lines, he would say different than what his lines were in the script. Or he'd have his dentures hanging out of his mouth sideways. He would do something to mess with you.

Or he'd be giving weird line readings. I feel like he was doing it in this scene. I did not catch that. So you see it because you, you, I guess you were watching. closer than I close, more closely than I was. I picked them. What of my takeaway was that she's becoming more like Janeway in a way, you know, I just felt that end little dialogue of her saying, you know, you have considerable child care experience.

I'm sure you'll manage. It was a very Janeway like comment that would have come from out of Janeway's mouth is what I felt. So I felt there's a little bit of a transition of seven sort of being that, that, you know, Janeway mentored her. And now it's rubbing off on her. Yeah. But it's a nice little scene.

So it sets up a ton of story. We know they're going to shut down the power. Right. We know that Nelix is going to babysit the kids that he's got to be gentle with them because they might, you know, be scared during this shutdown. And then we go to the bridge. Yeah. And they're looking at the view screen.

Everybody's looking at the view screen. And we see a nebula. And she says, let our momentum carry us through. Yeah. As we approach this nebula. So, you know, Harry makes a comment, Tom makes a comment about, I think Tom says something like, it looks like it's something out of an Edgar Allan Poe story.

And I was like, what? Edgar Allan Poe was never in space. Like, he never wrote. Like, what a weird. Didn't you talk about in our intro being like floating through space? Like just. Oh, I did. Yeah.

Yeah. So I was like, what the? Maybe I was right. He kind of called a lot of things in a way that he had no clue about. No. So I think you should go buy a lottery. it after this so that's my belief all right yeah Tom says some about at aground poe harry says it looks like a vampire bat i was like can i just why did they give you that long can i just say this right now

when we when i remember when we were filming this there's nothing on screen okay they put they add that in later right in terms of the actual image that we see so i was like oh my god i hope they don't make me look stupid on this and then when i watched now i recall watching this episode and going wait a minute that doesn't look anything like like a vampire bat. So it's, they kind of, they backed me into a corner. They really did. They backed me into a corner too with Edgar Allen Poe. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. How did I get to the corner? Yeah. But they were trying to set up scary that our impressions of this thing is scary. Tuvok comments. He's, he completely disses us. He's like, we have juvenile. Yeah. Imaginations.

Imagining things in clouds or whatever. Yes. Yes. I wish I was still a juvenile now, but it's okay. Janeway gives the order, shut down the power, so the bridge goes dark. So we see the hallway go out and people with, you know, like Sims beacons or flashlights, we see sick bay go dark, doctor shuts down this program. We go into the cargo bay and the board kids are regenerating and then the alcoops go out and the kids wake up. Yep. And they're nervous.

And Neelix is there. He says there's nothing to worry about. But I like this shutdown with the board kids because David did these like super close and wide angle push-ins on Neelix and the kids. Yeah. You know, it felt like a horror movie. It did. He did such a good job.

Stylistically, speaking, it was very, very compelling. Yeah. And then we go back to the bridge and Kim says that all decks are, you know, shutdown is completed on all the decks. Janeway tells seven, um, are we ready? And seven acknowledges. And then we cut out to space and we see that Voyager is literally just floating now. into the nebula, floating into the nebula, and we go back to cargo bay.

The kids have woken up, and we've had that scary moment. And the Nelix is trying to calm them down. And he's explaining that the main power was cut out. The amount of dialogue that Ethan Phillips had in this is, it's incredible. So much dialogue. And he handled it masterfully, I might add, my goodness. As the storyteller, he's the narrator and the storyteller of this. He should narrate every Voyager episode.

So, okay. He should. He should. But Neelix tells the kids that the EM emissions could damage the ship. And so we've cut out our warp drive and powered down so that we can float through this nebula. And Echab basically says, well, the deflector shields are fine. They would protect us from any nebula discharge. So that can't be true.

So Echib, Egypt is questioning a lot. Yeah, he is. He's questioning a lot. Masadi's got the sass though she's so sassy in this episode she is very savvy yeah Neelix Neelix even says you know

let's just read a flotter book while we wait you know he tries to do that and they're like no does this have anything to do with deck 12 because Naomi told her that deck 12 was haunted and it's and it's off limits

to everyone but senior officers oh there you go there is some mystery behind this And Neelix is like, no, there's no such thing as ghosts, you guys, but they continue to ask questions like, what is going on? What's on Debt 12? Is this have anything to do with it? And he finally agrees. He says, look, I'll tell you what really happened to deck. And they sit down around this like lantern kind of thing. And it felt like a campfire story. It was beautifully staged. And, you know, they all sit down in a circle around this. this lantern and he starts telling the story. Yeah. He says it all began several months ago. And we see, we go to space, we see it flying by another nebula.

Yeah. And he says it all started several months ago. We cut to the mess hall. Yeah. And there's a ship shake. I think it was cool. They had some stuff on the wall like the, the utensils or whatever move, which, you know, how do they do that?

How do you think they did that? I don't know. If they had some... Fishing wire? Yeah, probably fishing wire on them, and they were all tied together. And then they just removed it in Viz Effects or something. Because our sets don't move. No.

Our bridge never shakes. A mess hall never shakes. So if you want to see things moving, they have to actually move them. And that's a question that I think maybe you also have gotten at conventions. Did the bridge? Was it on a moving, you know, people will ask that question because they assume that maybe it was, but it wasn't. Yeah, there's a ship shake. Neelix is there.

comes in and he says that the ship was in a J-class nebula. We were, we were getting deuterium for our intermatter reactors and warp drive. He says that the deuterium we got will last us for another thousand light years. That sounds like a lot of deuterium we found. Well, yeah. Right. Doesn't it? Yeah, I think so. I mean, we're 70,000 light. At this point, we're like 35,000 light years from home. So a thousand light years, so one 30th. It's a pretty good amount of deterioration. Yeah, that's a decent amount.

Yeah. Okay. But Neelich sits down and wants to talk to Tuvac because he's anxious about this. And he basically says, as the morale officer, you know, I should talk to you. The crew is very nervous. They're very upset. Yeah. We see behind him the crew all eating, and they're not nervous at all.

No. You know, you see the nebula out of the window. Neelix is the one who's terrified. He'd start, and he starts freaking out. Tuvac comes up with a really quick solution. He's like, well, perhaps the captain might give you permission to install curtains. And this changes Neelix's mood immediately. He's like, ooh, that's an excellent idea.

And I have just the right material. And he's off to go take care of that. Yeah, he goes to get, which I was like, Neelix just collects material. He's got fabric sitting around. You don't know. know that that's his past time he's a that's one of his hobbies neelix collects does he use the material for his different uh fashion that he wears his different uniforms i think so but remember we found him he was a junk collector so the guy clearly collects a lot of stuff you know he's got he's a hoarder he's a hoarder

he's a hoarder he's a hoarder he's a hoarder he's a hoarder he's a hoarder he's a little bit of everything a little bit of the delta quadrant all across the yes that would have been amazing it would have been awesome yeah totally um so he goes to get his fabric we cut to the bridge and i think uh harry says something about nadion emissions yeah because he says the nebula is about to uh it's beginning to destabilize jay asked for the cause and he says well it has something to do with the nadion emissions being produced by the bazaar collectors and at this point we get pulled back into cargo bay too where the story is interrupted by Icheb saying, oh, you're not remembering that correctly.

Neelix is like, what do you mean? And Eichib, again, being the spoiler, he's got to be the know-it-all, says, the Bissarred collectors don't produce Nadeon emissions. So this story can't be right. Yeah, yeah. Neelix is like, well, it's so funny because every time he gets questioned,

he just kind of brushes past it, you know? He does such a good job with that. He's also when Eichab is correct. him about the bizarre collectors. Neelix is pouring some snacks onto a plate. Did you notice this? No. It looks like a bag of chips or something,

but when he pours it out into the plate, it looked to me like it was, you know, dried apple, like slices, like the dehydrated apples. It looked kind of like that. They had that stuff. They used that stuff.

I remember they used that kind of stuff. I feel like that's what he was pouring on the plate. And I was like, boy, Neelix, you're not a real party animal. Like, that's the snacks. You're going to give the kids? I know. He went straight to Trader Joe's pieces or something.

That was a Trader Joe's item for sure. Yeah. What's sour patch kids or something? Come on. These are kids. Anyway. Apple slices. So funny.

Yeah. So we go back to the bridge, continuing Neelix's stories. He narrates all of this, right? Right. He's narrating it. We go to the bridge. Chikote says that they've collated, collected. about 80% of the Deuterium that they wanted and they should probably leave.

And she said, yeah, let's get out of here and stop this dilethium intake, this thing that's happening. So she orders Paris to take the ship out of the nebula. And then Neelix is continuing the story. We go back to him talking. And he says, just as Paris was about to engage impulse engines, he goes, he yells out. And I literally, when I was watching this, I jumped. Did you just that's how good Ethan feels was in the story

I agree I was like uh huh what happened and then it's so good and it was like some when he said that we cut to the mess hall and we see that there's like a lightning strike

or something right right but between his like his voice and the cut to the mess hall and everybody jumping I literally jumped oh yeah it's interesting because it back in Cargo Bay too you know Mazadi speaks but then we we hear Azan and Rebby speak

which is very rare. Those two don't really say much, but they do say the ghost. And Rebbe's like, let them finish. So we have a little bit of dialogue from them. We have a little bit from them. By the way,

when we cut to the mess hall and that lightning strikes and everything and I jumped, Neelix walks into the frame. Do you remember this? And he had a giant roll of fabric under his own. Literally like from a fabric store.

It's like, holy, Oh, it wasn't even, it wasn't even, just a little bit of, he had a whole, it was rolled up like you went to the store and bought the entire, you know, okay. It literally looked like fabrics, like he was working at a fabric store and came to give you your sample or something. I love it. It's very funny. Yeah. So, anyway, they're like, yes, continue. Yes, so the zap, what was the zap?

The zap was the EM discharge that penetrated the hull. And it went through to deck seven, deck 10. So, you know, Kim's like trying to increase power to structural integrity. Janeway asked for a damage report. Chacote says power outages on three decks. Auxiliary subprocessors are offline and no injuries reported. So everyone's okay. But definitely it was very shocking.

Yeah, it was unexpected this discharge. And it seems like, you know, she says, well, you know, let's get repairs and resume course. So it's not, this doesn't seem like a big deal. No. But Neelix, in the narration of the story, says, we'd taken some minor damage, but for the most part, everything was fine. Or so we thought. So he continues to add tension to this story from his narration, which is great. Okay. Did I say I want Neelix to narrate every episode? I already said that. Yeah, you did say that. Thank you. I agree. I agree. He says that they had, so we thought we were alone. And the kids start asking questions. They're like, well, is it species? Blah, blah, blah. Like they have all these Borg species. Do you remember that? And he's like, what are you talking? He's 5973. They were starting to freak him out because he's like, what? There's a species name.

It's an interphazic species. And yeah, Neelix is kind of annoyed by it. He's like, okay, let's not even try to compare zino biology. I can continue with this story or, you know, it's up to you guys. So he kind of puts it in their court because he is slightly, you know, yeah, he scares himself a little bit when he's asking, hearing about these interphazic species that the border dealt with. Yeah. And so he goes back to his story. and he's narrating about the malfunctions,

but we have a space shot of the ship going by. As it goes by, we see that we're leaving the nebula. Right. And then we cut into the ready room. And I love this shot. It was like in the replicator, super wide lens. We see a cup of coffee appear. Oh, the Livingston was just having a...

With his wide lenses. A director's orgasm is what he was having at this point. He was so into it. Here's my question. The cup of coffee appears, Chacote is coming in from the other side of the room. We see him behind it. Janeway seems to come from like the other side of the room. Like, did she order the replicator from across the room and then walk in?

Like, it was because of that wide lens, you see the whole room. And I was like, where the hell did she come from? Yeah. Like, she was a mile away when she ordered that cup of coffee. Anyway. Well, if that's the least of your issues with this episode, It's still a damn good episode, regardless. But you're right.

Where was she? That's, yeah, okay. But Chocote comes in, he says, he gives the repair team's report that the damage was a little more serious than they originally thought. He says two of the personnel transporters were out. Half the sonic showers are offline. Deck five has lost its artificial gravity.

We've talked about that in the past, how it would be cool if we had a shot. or a scene where we saw artificial gravity being compromised and we talk about it, but we don't see it. Yeah, they mention it. He does say Ensign Mulcahy hit his head on the ceiling. The ceiling with the artificial gravity not being there any longer in that part of the ship, yes. Janeway doesn't like the taste of her coffee at this point. She's like, so she goes over the replicator.

Yeah. And she wants another cup. The replicator replicates coffee first before the coast. and it kind of in the shape of a form of a cup and then it spills and then the cup appears after so clearly the replicators are malfunctioning yeah these are one of the strange malfunctions that neelix has narrated yeah yeah and uh she says to chukotie she's like well add replicators to the list of damages and she leans into the replicator yeah and she's nested the replicator yeah almost seductively like yeah she goes we're starting off on the wrong foot today my friend and i thought that was

very, it was an unusual thing we don't see Janeway talk to the replicator or talk to the ship. No, no. And even Chikote's like, captain. And she, what does she say? She goes, I'm sorry. I was talking to Voyager. And I kept thinking if it was you there, you would have said, I'm sorry, I was talking to the Voyager is what you would have said. I would have. She says, she says, she says, she says, she says, she says, that she was talking to the ship. And he says, well, that's not weird. I used to talk to my Marquis ship. And she says, oh, really? What did you talk about?

He says, well, I can't tell you. That's Captain Starship, Confidentiality. This is really, I love this dialogue. I really do. It was fun. They both talk to their ships. Yeah. And somebody says, maybe we need therapy.

One of them says that. Right. Then they also have a deal. Like, let's not mention this to anyone else either. Let's keep this between ourselves. Yeah. I love it. Yeah.

Okay. So then she looks out her window and she mentions that she saw this. meteorite cluster. Chacote says, oh, he didn't see any, anything weird, strange about that. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, yeah, well, I would agree with you, but it's the same one we passed an hour ago. So, uh-oh, we're going in circles. We don't even know we're going in circles. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So she goes out to the bridge. Did you notice her hand off the bad coffee to somebody walking by? She's like, take the bad coffee. Get this disgusting coffee. Underling, take this coffee from my hand. she asked Tom to check his navigational sensors and he says yeah everything not according to my readings

yeah you're okay with that we're i'm okay with it uh tuvok runs a diagnostic and and he says yeah wait a minute uh it looks like we are malfunctioning yeah we're basically going in circles right um so she's like wait a minute yeah all stop let's re-initialize the systems here yeah let's let's figure out what's going on. This is my favorite part. When you say, Paris goes, I'm telling you, we rely too much on 24th century technology. Captain, you give me a window and a sextant, and I guarantee you, I'll get you where you want to go.

And right when you say that, the view screen, we just, we go to warp. We like, we jump to warp. But your reaction is the best because you look back at the screen and then you look back at us and you look at your timing of your head turns. where it was trying to squeeze out comedy where we can you were amazing dude okay good job man yeah we jump it was very funny time yeah we jumped to warp uh we can't shut down the the engines uh engines are going on and off on their own um janeway calls torres in engineering but she can't get an answer yeah there's no response exactly suddenly we have control again the warp drive gets

shut down we come to a stop janeway says contact engineering. Doesn't she order Chacote to go check it out? Is that what happened? Yeah, she says, she says Chacote, find out what's going on. And so Chacote checks, you know, checks the computer. And the computer says, yeah, she is in engineering. Yeah. But then the computer starts listing where everybody is.

Yes. And the computer says, Ensign Tramari is on deck four, Section 30. Lieutenant Commander Tuvok is on the bridge. Perumann Unai was in the mess hall. and Ensign Fork is in main engineering on level two. So she gets Harry to shut the thing off. Yeah, she puts her head in her hand. She's like, oh, my God, what is this computer doing?

It's listing everybody's location. Well, this is also because she didn't have her proper coffee. She's grumpy. She's grumpy. She's like, shut that thing off. Shut that thing. Stop it from computer going nuts. So this is where she tells you go out.

Go find out what you. Yeah, go figure out what's going on. So the next scene is basically the turbo lift, and it doesn't matter where. So Chacote says engineering, but it opens up. It's on a whole other deck. It's not even anywhere close to engineering, but clearly everything is malfunctioning. Everything's malfunctioning. He gets off, and clearly everything's malfunctioning on the bridge, like pretty clearly malfunctioning.

But when he gets out, there's people everywhere. And nobody seems nervous. Like, nobody's looking around like, hey, these other systems aren't working either. Right. I was like, yeah, they should have been a little bit more on there. Everybody's seen totally fine. Yeah, they're walking around like nothing's no problem. So I was a little confused in that moment.

That's okay. But in this scene, he starts talking to the ship. He's like, he's like, I bet you wouldn't try to pull this on the captain. Have it your way. I'll walk. And the doors shut in his face as he's trying to walk out. As he's trying to walk out. As he's trying to walk out.

Yes. And now the Turboflift. drops into this free fall like he's basically going to be doing it we're like in the elevator shaft basically and we see this thing coming down fast yeah and it was a cool VFX shot because we don't have a you know a turbo lift shaft that was all VFX we jump back to cargo bay two and the elix is he's still narrowing he's like it faster and faster anybody hungry and so he completely changes the tone yeah very I feel like he might have improbbed that. It's very possible.

It's very possible. And then Mazadi is just, you know, she's beside herself. Neelix. She wants the end of the story. Yeah. And he goes, yeah. He goes,

you haven't finished your snacks. Snacks are irrelevant. Continue the story. So she's bossy right now. She really is. Maybe she learned a little from seven, you know. Captain, come down to astrametrics. Neelix, finish the story.

So it's like, you know, it's kind of 70 in a way. That's, yeah. Yeah. But he tells them that Chucote was pinned to the ceiling, the stabilizers, you know. Now, that's an image. Sorry, that's an image. Yeah, everything was, was offline. The car could have crashed at the bottom of the shaft.

But just before death happened, the stabilizers reactivates. Yeah. And it saves Chikote. He's not dead. No, he's not dead. We cut to engineering and he finally is arriving in engineering. Yeah. And he's like, what is going on?

I think the ship is trying to kill me. Kill me. She says, I'm working on the problem here. We're all working on it. And it seems like there's bioreoreal gel packs. The gel packs that are. X-13 that are the problem. It turned out when the EM discharge came through from the new ballot.

So they're going to go head out and work on the gel packs. We cut to the hallway. She asked Chikote to go with them, right? And he says, yeah, I'll go. Yeah. We cut out to the hallway and there is crewman-tell. Sellis, who we had met in the earlier episode, the old Dex girl who couldn't do math. And she pulls off a panel.

She's obviously working on something. And before she does anything, seven of nine comes around the corner. And she's like, move aside. And like, did I do something wrong? Yeah. She's always very nervous. Yeah. You cause the power failure in astrometrics.

I didn't, what? I haven't done anything. I didn't touch anything. She's like, I've located the problem. It appears you inadvertently overloaded a series of EPS conduits while performing your diagnostic. And she's like, I don't even start my diagnostic. And so Seven's confused. She's like, well, what were you doing? And Celts is like, nothing. I just got here. I just, I just, again, I love this scene. You're right. I mean, this is such a great usage of Celis for sure. And then there's all of sudden some type of light flickering and a little bit of malfunctioning. Seven, seven, after seven realizes Talton do anything seven starts pushing some buttons and then that's when all the lights and that's when

the thing goes and sell us is like i knew it wasn't my fault yeah i know that was at my fault yeah it's very good yeah very good it was funny we go to another hallway somewhere we're in deck 13 now we're in deck oh yeah that's right we're in deck 13 because we're behind the gel packs yeah i love the way that david shot this scene with you know kind of obscuring their faces i again great shot um visually and you're right there's no issue with those gel packs they're not burnt out there's no trace of EM discharge so it's very very confusing and chokote's like well could it have dissipated rapidly and torres is like no it moved and at this point chocote is like what moved and torres says like yeah well it seems to be traveling through the bioreal circuitry jumping from system to system and chokote asked her

to isolate it and torres is like well it's in a series of jail packs that interface with the environmental controls outside cargo bay two so chakotay's like well we better try to get there before it moves elsewhere but now they're getting weird thoughts of like what could this be like what's moves on its own like that is it sentient they're all thinking back of their mind right now and so neelis continues to narrate he talks about seven um she she was working in uh in cargo bay two and we start to see this this energy thing we see it first in the alcoves the light sort of flicker there and she looks up and scans it and no one can get any information to seven because the comms have been down so yeah they can't tell seven what's up and so this thing starts moving around

the room while she works and neelix is narrating this and yeah finally she realizes the lights begin to flicker she scans she um sees by the ventilation duct i think she sees kind of this energy, you know, um, solidifying or visible for the first time. And she looks up towards this duct and all of that nebula gas is sort of going into the duct. It does intercut with, um, present day cargo bay too, where the more kids are. Yes. And we have more lines from Azan and Rebbe. And they're like here in this cargo bay, this is where it happened. And then again, you say it fills up in the ceiling, right? So yeah, fills up in the ceiling. She tries to leave and the doors won't open.

No. And we see this cloud sort of lingering up there now, just kind of hanging out part of this cloud is up there. And there's some lightning. It's got like energy in it now. And she manually opens the door. She pulls some panel off the floor or something. I didn't know we could do that. But yeah. And there's also another instance where she, when she tried to contact the bridge and there was no answer, each of stops the story saying, well, why didn't she remodulate her neural transceiver and send a message that way? So, again, he's being the know-it-all. Yeah, and Neelix is like, he's annoyed, and I love how he scratched his nose in that moment. He's like, hmm, that's an interesting question. You'll have to ask her. Yeah, which is funny because he had prosthetics on his nose. So there's no reason for Ethan to it's the nose,

except just to be funny. Yes, it was funny. Yeah, very much. And she does manually open the door. She gets outside, but she turns and there's force fields. She can't leave, you know, one way or the other. this cloud, this nebula cloud chases her out into that alcove area and she starts coughing and basically this this nebula cloud of energy sort of attacks her.

Yeah, I wanted her to fall because it was weird. She kind of sat down, fell forward, then fell back. And I thought, wait a minute. I'm going to, if I'm going to be, I would have fell to my knees and just collapsed forward, not forward and then back. So that was the one, one of the few things about this episode that sort of annoyed me. where I thought that was weird blocking or weird physicality happening there.

Yeah, it was a little, it felt a little... Forced. Forced, yeah. It felt a little unnatural. It wasn't organic. That's what I'm thinking. I wonder if she had to land in a certain position for the next scene.

And so she was like, well, this makes no sense, but okay, I guess I could do this. I could see David saying like, Jerry, go ahead and do whatever you want to do, but you have to end up on your back for the next shot. You know, so I could see him saying that. and then she was trying things out

and that's what we ended up with. So it's what it is. Yeah. So we go back to the cargo bay at this point when she collapses on the ground and the lantern goes out. Yes. You remember this?

The lantern goes, oh, oh, I just have to, you know. Let me go fix this and pick this up and... Yeah, he goes to fix the light,

but they're very jumpy at this point. He's got him hooked. And he gets the light back on. And he's like, okay, where, wait, where was I?

Oh, yes. Okay. Help is on. Isn't this the one where he turns it on right underneath his face? and they all jump back, right?

Yeah, which was awesome. And just the way he said, he goes, oh, sorry, I didn't need to scare you. It was even scarier how he said, I didn't mean to scare you. The way he did, the line delivery was great. Hey, Garrett, have you been traveling this summer? Oh, my gosh, so much already. I don't always travel, but this summer's been insane, trip after trip. You've been doing your impersonation of me.

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he was, you know, working it so hard. I don't know. Okay. Okay. I feel like he was working. And he was trying to scare them, but ultimately, I think he's trying to show them that your fear, you know, can be of use to you, too. Yeah. So now we go to the hall, Chukote and Torres show up.

They've obviously crawled through Jeffries, too. and stayed away from the triple lift where he was terrified before or terrorized before. Right. They find seven laying unconscious behind one of the force fields. They can't shut it down. So Jokote pulls out a phaser and shoots at the panel. I cut the power. And I felt like this shot to me.

Yeah. I don't think they had any real, obviously no phaser fire because that's always fake. But usually they'll put sparks or something. I think it was all this moment is so quick. It's all of his effects. It's all of its effects. There's no practical sparks. No.

But they go to seven and they're going to take her to sick bay. We are now in the mess hall. Yes. Yes. Yes. And Neelix is narrating the story. He says now most of us were just going about our business, oblivious to what was happening. But that was all about to change.

The lights start flickering. Kim calls to engineering. No response. Neelix calls to the bridge, no response. Kim decides to take control. Yeah. So he says, I want everyone to report to their stations until we figure out what's going on. All the crewmen's like, aye, sir, yes.

Everyone just moves and scatters. By the way, feeling nervous, yes. Why was Harry eating by himself? He wasn't. He was with somebody else. Oh, were you working or something on a pad? I felt like you were lonely. I was like, yeah, there's Harry.

I didn't, I felt like you, I felt like Tom should have gone to lunch with you. You should have been there with me, but it's okay. I thought they had some background actors sitting across from me, I think. Maybe. So, yeah, so Harry does take control, and Neelix is still very nervous. And he says, well, maybe I should come with you. The captain might need me. And Kim's like, no, this is your post.

You might be needed here. And Neelix is like, oh, okay. Well, if you need anything, anything at all, you know where to find me. So then in the narration, I love this line. And the way he delivered it was so beautiful. So there I was, the only thing I could do was wait, alone, in the dark. After the lights go out, he goes, alone, the lights go out. And he says, in the dark, which was just the timing and everything.

He also made some noises in there. He was like, ooh, vocalizing his terror. It was great, though. I loved it. I loved it. And by the way, for some reason, it hit me this episode in a way I never thought about it. So he's got this fire going. the you know the stove yeah right he's got his his propane fire or what yeah yeah now that kind of

propane fire is a fossil fuel it is a limited resource like like if you burn that fire eventually you're going to run out of it whereas if it were an electric stove yeah like a ceramic heating coil or whatever it is yeah then we have the work core that it's it's it's a renewable resource why are we burning you're so right a fossil fuel you're so you're That is a limited. It's like all of a sudden I was like, it makes no sense. Yeah, we would not be doing that, would we? No, I don't think so.

Oh, my goodness. But it's a cool looking thing. Yeah, but yeah. Yeah, very, very primitive. Looks great on camera, but it's not practical. Not practical at all. Good point. Anyway, we go to the bridge.

Yep. We learn that environmental controls have failed, that we are dead in space, that the warp drive, impulse engines are not responsible. And he says that Ensign Paris told me it was hotter than the Tarkanian desert on the bridge. Yeah, that's hot. And this is the best line because you turn to Tuvok and you go, don't you ever sweat? And Tuvok says, not unless the temperature reaches 350 degrees Kelvin with the humidity factor at approximately. And Paris is like, forget I even ass like that.

Forget I ask. Get out of here. Yeah, it's funny. It's a funny little bit. It is. Um, then we see Janeway talking to Voyager again. Yeah. She's leaning into the console.

Yeah. And saying, you know, whatever. What does she say? She says, she goes, I'll make you a deal, Voyager. The next M-class planetoid we find will sit down and I'll give you a nice maintenance overhaul. What do you say? Tom, check the con. So she's talking to Voyager.

She thinks maybe this will work. She literally thinks if I talk to the ship. But the funny thing is, when you go, I don't. know what you did captain but i've got helm control back and she goes thanks my friend she continues to talk to the ship and yet she calls a voyager not the voyager like tom does so yeah maybe that's the way to get through to the ship tom's over there starting to you know trying to start to drive the thing again she says she detects an em surge near the con console in your console yes move away get away from there but no it's too late and this this strike

this comes up and you can see your skull too like you hear right i mean when it hits you it just electrifies your entire everything yeah my face my head my body yeah and you scream yeah you're like good suffering i wrote down good suffering roby did suffer well myself i thought it was excellent suffering and i kind of go back i i fall down onto the console and then when i come up i have all this burn makeup on and it was right good burn it was really good burn makeup but clearly that happened probably two hours later because you had to go to makeup and get all that stuff applied and then come back in and also you probably changed your Starfleet uniform to one that was a little bit damaged as well from the spark so they had a they had a switch for you you had

to change out of that uniform you had to get all that stuff applied to your face and then come back so that's what I'm saying would you agree two hours later probably oh yeah probably maybe more also when I saw this burn makeup. I do remember one night rapping in the burn makeup. Yeah. I think I've told this story. And I told the makeup guys, they started removing it. I'm like, no, no, no, don't. Keep it on. Let me keep it on. Let me keep it on. When I drive home. I want to see them. It was this episode, you think? It might have been this one. Wow. Wow. Yeah. And I went and I stopped at like a gas station or 7-Eleven or something. Yeah. And nobody, it's Hollywood. Nobody even bad at a deny it. Nobody care. Nobody said, are you okay or anything.

you should if i were you i would have i would have stood in the middle of 7-11 and i would have turned around everyone there and said does it doesn't everybody cares do anything does anyone believe in helping your fellow human being who's been burned no i got nothing that's too bad well it looks good though you look pretty messed up man you look really messed up i suffered good i made a note of it good suffering it was so good that's it i think you should have been dead like that's how hardcore that was but you survived i agree which will come up in a moment in sickbay i'll have a comment about that but it was severe i should have been dead but we do realize that uh there's oxygen depletion on the bridge uh air is being removed we can't restore power or anything janeway's like

everybody evacuate yeah and get out of here everyone's leaving the bridge yeah coughing gasping for breath we cut into sick bay there's seven on the main biobed and she seems fine she's getting okay doctors treated her from her attack by the nebula right and uh torres and chukote are there very concerned about seven yeah and then tom is rushed in looking as you said like he should be dead i don't know if he i don't think you come in in this scene yeah he's rushed in he's rushed in that's right that's right you did come in in the scene sorry he's rushed in by janeway and chakote yeah put on the side bed Torres does run over for a minute. Yeah, I have a comment here.

I know what you're going to say. As you said, should have been dead. And there's five of our crew members, my fellow bridge officers, standing around having a calm conversation while I'm dying from the most horrific burns, laying two feet in front of them. I wrote down, thanks everybody for getting caring. I was not there. I was not there.

If I was there, I would have cared more than that. And I also felt that in the blocking, they should have put Torres closest to your head. Yeah, she wasn't even paying attention. She's looking back at. But she's her lady, right? She should be the closest to your head, not Janeway standing there. And maybe feeling a little concerned. Yeah, they just have this.

Okay, just to her credit, she did have a very concern. What happened? So she did give that much. But then after that. Forget it. It was sort of like, well, he might die anyway. I better just not think too much about him right now. It literally felt like a business meeting.

They're comparing notes on what's going on. And nobody cares about suffering Paris right there. Anyway, let's move on. I don't want you to be too upset. Okay. They compare notes, you know. They talk about the EM discharge that almost killed Paris. Don't seem to care.

Seven was attacked by this thing. They seem more concerned about that. There's more concern about the doctor's matrix destabilizing. Okay. Yes. Yes. That's over there. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. So they talk about they tried to vent gas from deck seven, but that's had DM discharges. Then Janeway starts to think that it could be an electromagnetic life form that's trying to change the environment of our ship for itself. Chigote thinks that too. And Chacotay thinks that. And then the doctor's program starts destabilizing and everybody panics because God forbid we'd lose the doctor. Who cares about the pilot?

You should have when they said the matrix, my matrix is destabilizing. You should have said, I'm not dead yet. Yeah, in the background and just raising your hand. Yeah. I feel like I should have. That would have been a great little callback to throw away. Oh, I would have loved that. Oh, my God.

I wish I'd thought of it. Okay. Yeah, they transfer his program to the mobile monitor at this point. This is where they do that. And by the way, Janeway's got the open jacket style uniform. So we start to see Janeway means business because she's got the jacket open. And more crew members are going to mean business as we get a little deeper in. I think your sleeves get pushed up.

Anyway, they evacuate sickbay. Yes. Enough about that scene because nobody cares about Tom. Okay. we go out to the hall there's red alert harry's walking let's talk about harry and seen with sellus are you give me the giggles man i can't get that out of my head right now just because i'm not dead yet i'm not dead yet please with someone you can bring a dermal regenerator to me please right here my face needs a little unbelievable unbelievable no respect no risk let's go in the corridor let's go in the

Let's go in the corridor. Here, this is the scene I don't even remember about. I'm like, oh, my God. I don't have a whole other scene. It's a good scene. It's a good scene. Except for when I go, where is it the part where? Oh, slow down that part.

Because like, okay, let's just set it up though. Okay. So Harry's walking by himself down this, this red alert hallway. The lights are going on off. Very cool shots of Harry walking. And suddenly. And it's red light. It's the red light.

It's the red alert light. Suddenly, sell us, pops around. a corner hits you in the stomach like she's holding like with a rifle what no a rifle or something or what was it was a it was one of those little um plastic suitcases that hold like tools and stuff in them it was like it was like a that she double handed that and hit me in the stomach with it which is not really a good weapon to be perfectly honest that's right it was made a plastic yeah it was a case yeah was a case so she thought you were an alien yeah she were an alien invader basically she basically well not only

that then she thinks it's it's a similar board assimilation she thinks all kinds of things like her it's her imagination running she's panicking over time and oh she's overreacting to everything clearly and harry does kind of talk her down calm her down you know he's she's he's trying to show her or tell her um he's trying to use logic basically like okay you know come on now i mean she she's sitting here saying well i tried this area everyone's gone i tried this other area so she is flipping out yeah no one's been assimilated, Harry says, like calm down. Yep. Yeah, Harry does say, well, there's no one on the bridge either. And Celis goes, you see, but maybe I was right. Maybe the reason we can't find anyone is because they're all assimilated. And that's when Kim goes, slow down. That's the part I don't like. I did not

like the way I acted in that. Yeah. No, I like the scene. I thought it was funny. She was panicking, and you were trying to calm her down, getting impatient, you know, stop it. Enough. I thought I liked it. I thought it was too harsh. I think I could have found a different way to do it, like a little more, a little bit more whimsical. We're not dead yet. We're not dead yet. We're all right. That would have been a better line. That would have been a better line. Yes. Or if I said, in the words of my buddy, Tom, we're not dead yet. So I would have given you credit as well. Thank you. Thank you. But he does eventually kind of calm her down. He's like, let's get to engineering. And they, just as they start to head out, She's like, come to stop by the weapons locker first?

Yeah. This is why I know she didn't have a weapon because she asked about stopping by a weapons locker at the end. Maybe that's what confused you. But, man, I'm still blaming you. You should not have come up with that line. I'm going to be thinking. You don't make me laugh at the rest of this episode. The rest of this episode, I'm going to be giggling.

That's not dead yet. All right, moving on. Moving on to the mess hall. Neelix is there. We hear the narration. He's been, you know, alone for hours in here. there's a noise, starts to go to the door. I love this shot through the portal thing.

Yeah. He's like trying to get, he has to manually pull the door open. Goes out in the hall. Yeah, he sees the turbo lift in the distance and it's doing this. Open shut, open shot. And I kept thinking, man, Will Tom's is back there going, making sure that thing was going properly. And then he, and it actually increases in in speed, in tempo.

As he gets closer, it starts going, dung, dung, dung. And I guess kept, I was wondering, maybe it was Will Tom's. and someone else back there. Maybe he needed a second person to make it do that over and over. It was going crazy. By the way, when he sees, he hears the noise out in the hall and sees the door. He goes, Tom, is that you? It's not funny or something like that.

I was like, what? Not only does nobody care that I'm dying, but they're blaming me for everything. Like, what, why? It's not always Tom, you guys. It's not like bad things that happen aren't always Tom. that he said what did he say he said wait wait oh tom if that's you this isn't funny right yeah yeah it's not tom because he's almost dead that's what you said you should have popped your head around the corner it's still messed up i'm still not dead yet just like that yeah okay fine um i like as he

approached the door the camera inside the turbo lift and the door is opening and shutting yeah and suddenly behind him he turns around and there's a figure with like a silence of a lamp mask on his face. I thought Maine from Batman, but okay. Yeah, yeah, Silence of Lambs as well. That's fine. Okay. Yeah.

He screams, stay away. It's Tuvok. And Tuvok says, calm yourself, Mr. Neelix. Yeah. But I love that shot of Tuvok. Very nice, tight close up and he pulls it off, you know, because you're not sure what it is until, you know, it's Tuvok. But, yeah.

And they talk outside. By the way, the door keeps going behind Neelix. So they must have looped this whole scene because of that. The door noise. And I thought it was very good looping. There was an area in here that I felt, I was like, oh, wow, they looped this too. And I can't remember where it was now. Dang it.

Well, this scene, I thought it was very well looped. Oh, it didn't seem like it. Yeah, they did a great job. Great job. But they head off to engineering, too. We go to Cargo Bay, more of Neelix's lots of dialogue that he had. He talks about climbing through Jeffrey's tubes, that he was terrified. Yeah.

And Echab says, well, fear distracts. people from accomplishing your goals. Yeah. You know, you should, you should have, I forget what he said, but it was something like, well, you should have just decided not to be afraid. Echib says, fear distracts people from accomplishing their goals. Neelik's replies, well, that's true, I suppose. On the other hand, fear can sometimes be very healthy. And that's what Mazadi says, explain. And Neelik says, well, it keeps you alert. It keeps you from putting yourself in unnecessary danger. Then Mazadi relates a story. She says that she was afraid once. And Echib is kind of...

Each of... You've been afraid many times, you know? And Echib's like... Neelix goes, what, do you want to tell us about it? And Mazadi says it was when we were first disconnected from the hive mine before seven found us. I couldn't hear anyone else's thoughts anymore.

I felt alone. And Neelys goes, well, I understand why that was frightening. When you're scared, it helps to have someone to talk to, doesn't it? And Mazadi's like, yes. And Neelis says, of course, in my case, the only one person I had to talk to was... Commander Tuvok. Yeah.

And so that's the end of that scene. I love this scene. Yeah, that's the end of that scene. I love this scene because to me, this is the heart of the whole episode. I agree. I agree.

Talking about fear and how it can be good. That's the takeaway. This is the scene of the takeaway lesson. Absolutely. And so well articulated in the writing and the way that Mazadi's story kind of expands on it. Oh, yeah. And yeah, it leads us into the only person I had to talk to was Tuvok. We cut into the Jeffries tube.

I love that Neelix wanted to tell him a story. He says, have I ever told you about the crew of the Seleoxia? And Tuvok says, if I say yes, we'll look at you from telling the story. He didn't even, he doesn't even, he doesn't even, he doesn't even skip a beat. He doesn't even acknowledge Tuvok. He goes right into the story. It goes into this scary story, basically about a crew caught in some gaseous anomaly and they died, you know, one by one very slowly.

And the ghost ship was found 80 years later. Like, they had to draw straws of this Tlaxian freighter because there was limited oxygen. So whoever got the short straw suffocated to death is what it was. So it's a very, it's a horrible story. Horrible story. Tuvok didn't want to hear it. He heard it anyway. I also noticed they were crawling down that Jeffrey's tubes shoulder to shoulder side by side.

And I was like, oh my God, that's horrible. Because they weren't that big. They really weren't that big. So that was a tough to fit those two. gentleman side-by-side was had to have been and then resetting every time. Yeah, and as I've said before,

it's just painful on your knees. It's not a fun place for any Star Trek actor to be is on their knees crawling through a dad-gum Jeffreys 2. Jeffries 2. We cut to the cargo bay after he talks about the ghost ship

and the kids want to talk about were they decomposed? Did they eat each other? Like, all these horror movie questions. And he jumps out of that immediately when she goes eating each other. All right, that's enough. That's enough.

do like in the prior scene i'm going to jump back for a split second like it as they're going through there neelis is like pleasant thoughts pleasant thoughts like you sit here trying to like keep himself like you know occupy his mind so he's not he's not going to hyperventilate so but okay so anyway he cuts them off about talking about eating each other eating uh the remaining crew members and uh we're back in the jeffreys tube again and neelix talks about that they ran into an obstacle when the hatch refuses they open two fog basically opens it man And they look inside and see it's filling with the nebula gas. And this is not a good thing.

No. They shut the hatch. And Tuvok talks about if he can access environmental controls, he may be able to vent that gas out of there. And so Neely says, well, there's got to be another way around. And Tuvac's like, okay, it would take probably hours to reach engineering by an alternate route. So, you know, there's no guarantee that they would find a clear path that way either. Neil keeps going with his little mantra of pleasant thoughts, pleasant thoughts. We go to engineering.

The crew is gathering there. This is where I know everybody means business because Harry's got his sleeves rolled up, clearly means business. It does. He means business too. And everyone kind of has a little sheen of Evian water applied in their face to look like they're sweaty. Environmental controls are starting to fail. Harry feels guilty that he ordered Neelix to stay in the mess hall. And Janeway says, don't feel guilty.

You follow procedure. B'Elanna calls, Janeway Hubs over there, B'lanas goes, bad news. This life form is now in our main computer matrix. Yes, it's infiltrated the main computer matrix. That's not a good thing. Not a good thing at all. And suddenly we hear Captain Janeway, Captain Janeway, which is the computer calling, Captain Janeway.

And then the computer starts reporting Captain Janeway as in main engineering. And Janeway's like, what is going on? Yeah. And Kim thinks this is a repeat of what happened on the bridge. Like, sorry, Captain, I know this is annoying, but I'm going to, I'll shut it down. I'll shut it down. No, no, no, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. She goes, this is Captain Janeway, respond.

And all of a sudden the computer says, authorization code required. And Janeway's like, Jayway Pi Alpha. Chikote is confused. Like, what's going on? Janeway has a hunch, but she thinks the life form is trying to communicate with them. And it's interesting because this is now a conversation between Janeway and the ship, but it's using the computer voice, which is. Yeah, it's kind of a go-betray. Roddenberry, yeah, so Major had a big part in this.

A lot of, yeah, Majel had a lot of lines here. And she does say to, when she's trying to communicate to the computer, she tells Torres to call up the system syntax subroutines. Yes, to help it along. Yeah, to help the alien respond to her words and tells the alien to use it. She actually says to the computer, you know, we've got the syntax subroutine so we can communicate better. She asked the alien, why did it come aboard?

And then the alien, the computer says, go to astrometrics. Right. She's like, why? And it repeats, go to astromatrix. Harry says, astrometrics is flooded with gas. The computer says, life support in astrometrics has been restored. So now it's no longer filled with gas.

So this is working. This conversation is getting her somewhere. Yeah, Chikotay's skeptical. He thinks it might be a trap. But she says, I'm going to go to Astromatrix, 7. You're with me. She can't let it take over her ship. She wants to talk to this thing and whatever it is.

We cut back to the tubes. Tuvok is working in the little console there, but Nelix is sitting in the background in that shot, meditating. He's leading him through the meditation, which is awesome. I love this. And it's just so reminds me of going to yoga or doing some yoga. Yeah, exactly. He's having like a guided meditation.

And he talks to Nelix about, you know, take yourself back to a happy memory. Yeah. So we go into this flashback of Nelix, remember. bringing a super happy birthday dinner that he had Janeway. Everybody's there gathered around, Neelix, he's super happy. And Janeway brings out this, this platter, covered platter of, you think it's a cake or some amazing meal. She sets it down, pulls off the cover, and it's a nebula.

It's nebula soup. Nebula soup. And I was like, oh, yummy, just like mom's recipe. Nebula soup, delicious. us. I think Mazadi says Yeah, Captain Janeway served you. No, she says, Captain Janeway served you nebula gas? And she's like, no. Neelix is like, no, of course not. It was just my imagination playing tricks on me during the meditation. My head was too full of scary images for me to relax. The captain, on the other hand, seemed to be getting things under control.

And now we jump over to the Astromatrix Lab. We have Seven and Janeway. And they're wearing their, yeah, they're wearing their thing. They're wearing them as they come in the door, the gas masks, and then they pull them off. But it's cool look. You know, they're sweaty and their hair, both their hairs messed up. There's a lot of times where people had no mask on. I was like, guys, there's poison gas everywhere. Why aren't you wearing the mask? Yeah, it was not consistent.

What the heck is happening here? Yeah. It was not consistent with the mask wearing. They get in there, though, and Janeway realizes the alien wants to go back to its nebula. Yeah. Where they had been collecting that deuterium. It's going through the navigational logs to find the actual. nebula and so now janeway knows just wants to go home basically and uh she says i can get you

back there i just you just need to give us home control back and uh so it tells jane way to go to the bridge but it institutes a level 10 security clearance for the bridge so it only wants jane her no one else so seven can't go with her tom can't go fly but he's dying because nobody cares but uh anyway she's going to have to do it because he's basically dead i'm still not dead yet yeah i like at the end of the scene though she's like you know whatever she says at the end and then she puts the gas mask on in a close up and like she's ready for business yes she is she is we go to the bridge she is flying the ship um and then we look up on the view screen they come out of warp and she says she asks the computer is the is the view screen working properly yeah and it is

and the nebula is gone and so now the alien life form is mad cuts life support on the bridge says abandoned ship orders her to you know and the crew to abandon ship we cut to the cargo bay Nelix is narrating he says the alien wanted the ship for itself

and he and it would kill anyone who stayed on board back to the bridge Janeway's trying to negotiate with this thing she said look I'll find you a new nebula yeah and another class J. Nebula it'll be just like the old one

aliens not listening no oxygen depletion is getting critical. She puts the gas mask back on. We cut inside the tube where Tuvok has been working and Neelix was meditating. And Tuvok gets zapped by the alien in the systems. I like the transition because right before that, Neelix says in his narration, he says, as the captain was facing one of her worst fears, losing her ship, I was with Tuvok and about to face one of mine. And that's when Tuvok gets zapped. Tuvok gets zapped. Neelix goes to help him. The Neelix looks up, sees the gas coming towards him in the Jeffrey's tube.

And Tuvok says, go without me. I'm too injured. Take this gas mask. Neelik says, absolutely not. And he's two, five, says, I'm giving you an order. Neelich says, I'm disobeying it. You're coming. I love this line.

You're coming with me if I have to drag you by your pointy little ears. That's what he says. That's great. Neelick stays there. He's like taking a breath and then giving Tuvok a breath with the gas. So they're sort of sharing the gas mask. He looks up and he sees this gas sort of forming into a face. This is the first time, I think, in the episode, where that gas sort of takes on

any recognizable features of a, you know, essentially. Didn't it also take on a face when he opened up in the mess hall when they opened up the dish. Oh, it was so fast. I didn't catch it there. It looked like it was coming out into a face. Like a face. Yes. So. But he sees this thing coming at him. Pleasant thoughts. Pleasant thoughts. Pleasant thoughts. And he says he's got to control his fear. So we cut to a corridor next. and Janeway is telling the alien, look, if you kill us, you're going to kill yourself. You need this crew. Yeah, first she asked, you understand what killing everyone on this ship means.

And the computer does understand. I mean, the life form understands it by the computer voice saying, to deprive of life, extinguish. So Janeway knows this. But then she throws in the logic, well, yes, you can extinguish all of us. But guess what's going to happen? You need us to maintain these systems, the primary systems, the secondary systems. So without us, you will perish yourself after a certain amount of time. All the systems are going to basically go offline and you're screwed.

And the alien life form understands this. It starts understanding this or it starts to is unable to confirm. But Janeway says access to internal sensors. Run a ship-wide diagnostic. See for yourself. The alien still says abandoned ship, abandoned ship. But Janeway says she comes into engineering. Is that right?

Yes. okay yeah well the creature in in the corridor she's basically saying you're going to die if you kill all of us yeah the systems are you know going to eventually fail and you'll die too and the creature still ultimately refuses abandonment ship so we go to engineering and there's this cool like push in a steady cam shot of rushing towards the door of engineering as she comes in and she she runs in announces a band we're abandoning ship escape pods everybody's these skate pods and i love the Steady Camp sort of wrap around as she comes in, gives that order. Everybody starts leaving. Yeah. As they're leaving, Neelix and Tuvok come out of a Jeffers 2. That door right there.

And they join them. So they're all heading to the escape pods. We cut in a quarter. All the shuttle pods were launched. Except for one, except for one, he says, Chocote was going to leave with Janeway. And Chacote goes in, but then she orders the door shut and stays in the corridor. Yeah. And she says, I did what you want. What more do you want, basically? She's like, you know, everyone's leaving. Well, the computer has, the diagnostic is now completed. And the computer realized, okay, estimated time to failure, six days, 13 hours.

Janeway says, yeah, that's about right. I told you so. And the rest of the scene plays out like a game of chicken. Basically, Janeway says it wants Janeway to go to engineering and become its own personal slave and maintain everything, all the systems for the nebula, gas. the entity, the being. And then Janeway says, no, you're just going to have to kill me. I'm not going to go.

And so some gas starts to come out, basically. Very dramatic scene with just Kate, basically, Kate talking to the computer in the hallway, super dramatic standoff scene. She wants control of her ship. If she doesn't get control back, then they're both going to die. Right. It's my way or the highway. Janeway or the highway.

And she's choking and yelling and the computer is yelling. And it was very dramatic. It was. It's probably the most dramatic scene with the computer voice that we've ever had. That way anyone's ever, yes. It's the biggest fight with a computer we've ever seen in Star Trek. Yeah. We cut to cargo bay.

Neelik says it looks like the alien was going to call her bluff. Yeah. But on her very last breath, we cut back to the hallway and the lights come on. The gas is all sucked out of the area. Systems restored, yep. Lights on. Janeway won. She didn't let her fear get the best of her.

And she wins that standoff. And we go to Cargo Bay. Neelix says it took two days for the crew to return. And an isolated environment was created on deck 12 to contain the creature until we could find another suitable nebula. And the creature has been living there ever since. Mazadi says at this point, she turns to Echab. She said, I told you there was a monster on deck 12. And Eishab's like, it's not a monster.

it's an alien. So they're still a big ring, alien life form. Suddenly the ship is shaken while the kids have just heard the end of the story. And a few seconds later, main power comes back on. I guess they're drifting through this nebula. Well, Neelix tells this story is completed. The lights come back on, Borg, Alcoves, power up again. But they're still concerned.

Rebbe and Nizan are like, well, what if the life form didn't leave? And Nizan's like, well, what if it wants revenge? And Nielix says, what if I told you? I made up the whole thing. And Mazzati goes, Naomi told me you always exaggerate. And E. Cheb goes, I knew this story wasn't true. The moment you said the Bissarred collectors produced nadion emissions. So Neelix is like, well, I should have known better than tried fooling the four of you.

All right. In you go. Pleasant dreams. Back into your regeneration coves. You know, and that's the end of that scene in Cargo Bay, too. But the way he said that made me feel like there was truth to this story at the very end. I know. You don't know.

By the way, when the lights come back on and we see where they were all seated around for the campfire, there's some props set around there. And one of the props, Rebecca pointed out in the overhead shot is a dog food container like we have. We have that dog food container for Walter's food. It's like a big plastic thing with a circular top on it. It's basically they had a dog food container. for set decoration and it was right there in their little camps i'm going to have to go rewatch that scene now good catch Rebecca good dog food container very fun um yep part of the set deck wow maybe the budget on set dressing was really low for this episode so someone's like can someone bring home

because if someone bring to work the dog food container thingy and someone was like okay i got one and that's how it happened yeah i'm still not dead yet okay uh we go to the bridge and And Neelix walks in and Chakotay says, how are the kids? And Janeway says, were they frightened while the power was off? And Neelix is covering here. He's like, yeah, fine. I told him a story. Nothing too scary.

And Tom's like, oh, Mother Goose, probably. And Neelks is like, no, I would never tell a mother goose story. Some of those are frightening those stories, right? Yeah. And Neelix looks out at the nebula on screen and he says, that I hope it lives happily ever after. I love that line. I don't know.

See, look at that. I don't know. Oh, my goodness. Or was it all his imagination? We'll never know. What's your takeaway for this episode? My takeaway comes from that one scene we mentioned earlier is that you can either choose to let your fear defeat you

or it can become your ally. And you can use it to keep yourself alert. And yeah, it's just we're all going to be afraid. We're all going to have fears. but it's how we choose to process that fear, you know, and what we do with it. So that's the lesson for me. What about you? Yeah, similar to that.

I mean, don't let fear get the best of you, definitely. But also when dealing with fear or dealing with uncertain circumstances in your life, it is good to talk to somebody like Mazadi was talking about. So, you know, make sure you reach out to someone if you're dealing with something and that you need to have. someone as a sounding board or someone just to listen to you sometimes can dissipate that fear right um also the other lesson is i don't know just that that moment when neelix did not leave tewok lying there he's like no yeah i'm not leaving you behind so um yeah make sure you're there for your friends don't leave them don't leave him yeah janeway didn't leave her friend no man no man or

no person left behind is what it is. And the other lesson is talk to your technology, people. Talk to your computer, talk to your cell phone because it's listening. And it matters. It wants to be heard. And the last lesson is don't let your pilot

get burned to a crisp, basically die and ignore him. That's the most important lesson. Please. Have some compassion for your... When your pilot's face looks like burnt toast, you should actually give him more attention and more caring and empathy, not less.

Than the other healthy people standing around the bed. It was like a business meeting. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Okay. What's your rating on this? Oh, I'm going to give it a 9.3. Wow.

Yeah. really love this episode. I like this episode a lot, too. I think I think this is a great episode to watch over Halloween. I think this is a fabulous, you know, scary movie kind of thing. And we'd rarely do anything like this. No, it was really well done. Well, written.

The writing, yeah, writing, the directing, the acting, except for my crappy moment in the hallway with the songs, but, okay, overall. Except for everyone ignoring the dead pilot, it was a great episode. It was a great episode. And who knew that the comedic. element would come from that part of you not being having any attention what are you giving it i'm given 8.4 i also rated it high but i thought i would go higher than you you went higher than you no i went way higher than you wow i went away higher than you i think the fans are going to give it an 8.1

let's see the admiral and captain average rating for the haunting of deck 12 7.7 oh okay wow point four away so all right wow i'm surprised it's that low yeah it's a great episode just hands down and it used everybody yeah right and even used the board kids too so absolutely i thought it it involved the entire crew in a great way except for the doctor doctor didn't have much yeah but he's had so much already we just saw an episode of him playing him and him so you know you get double dosage of any doctor fans should not be upset about him not getting much in this episode because he got double shot of the prior episode. So that's all. All right. Well, that was great. What is what is next week's adventure? Our season finale, yeah, it's our season finale of season six,

basically, is what this is. And it is Unimatrix Zero, part one. Oh, okay. You remember that title, right? I do. familiar? Okay. Yes. Yeah. So clearly it is going to be a Borg episode from that title alone. Unimatrix Zero, part one. All right. Thank you everyone for tuning in to our recap and discussion of The Haunting of Deck 12. And yes, Brevi and I will be back next week with our recap and discussion of Unimatrix Zero, Part 1. Patreon, Patrons, please stay tuned for your bonus material. See you next week. Thanks, everybody. I don't know.