The Delta Flyers - Virtuoso

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

The Delta Flyers is a weekly Star Trek: Voyager rewatch & recap podcast hosted by Garrett Wang & Robert Duncan McNeill. Each week Garrett and Robert will rewatch an episode of Voyager starting at the very beginning. This week’s episode is Virtuoso. Garrett and Robbie recap and discuss the episode, and share their insight as series regulars.Virtuoso:A superior race is enthralled by the Doctor's singing voice, and he considers leaving the ship to embrace a career in opera singing.We want to thank everyone who makes this podcast possible, starting with our Executive producers Megan Elise & Rebecca McNeillAnd a special thanks to our Ambassadors, the guests who keep coming back, giving their time and energy into making this podcast better and better with their thoughts, input, and inside knowledge: Lisa Klink, Martha Hackett, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips, Robert Beltran, Tim Russ, Roxann Dawson, Kate Mulgrew, Brannon Braga, & Bryan FullerAdditionally we could not make this podcast available without our Co-Executive Producers: Stephanie Baker, Philipp Havrilla, Kelton Rochelle, Liz Scott, Eve England, Sab Ewell, Sarah A Gubbins, Jason M Okun, Luz R., Marie Burgoyne, Daniel de Rooy, Chris Knapp, Janet K Harlow, Utopia Science Fiction Magazine, Courtney Lucas, Matthew Gravens, Elaine Ferguson, Brian Barrow, Captain Jeremiah Brown, Heidi Mclellan, Rich Gross, Mary Jac Greer, John Espinosa, James Zugg, Deike Hoffmann, Mike Gu, Anna Post, Shannyn Bourke, Vikki Williams, Kelly Brown, Lee Lisle, Mary Beth Lowe, William McEvoy, Sarah Thompson, Samantha Hunter, Holly Smith, Amy Tudor, Adm. Bill "Seoulman" Yu, KMB, Dominic Burgess, Ashley Stokey, Zachary Upton, Lori Tharpe, Mary Burch, Nicholaus Russell, Dominique Weidle, Lisa Robinson, Normandy Madden, Joseph Michael Kuhlmann, Darryl Cheng, Alex Mednis, AJ Freeburg, Elizabeth Stanton, Kayla Knilans, Barbara S., Tim Beach, Ariana, Meg Johnson, Victor Ling, Shambhavi Kadam, Holly Schmitt, James H. Morrow, Christopher Arzeberger, Megan Chowning, Tae Phoenix, Nicole Anne Toma, Donna Runyon, Nicholas Albano, Daniel O’Brien, Bronwen Duffield, Brandon May, Andrew Duncan, David Buck, Jeremy Mcgraw, Jason Bonnett, Ali S, Danie Crofoot, Ian Ramsey, Susan V. Gruner, Feroza Mehta, & Michael DismukeAnd our Producers:James Amey, Patrick Carlin, Richard Banaski, Ann Harding, Ann Marie Segal, Chloe E, Nathanial Moon, Carole Patterson, Warren Stine, Jocelyn Pina, Mike Schaible, AJ Provance, Captain Nancy Stout, Claire Deans, Matthew Cutler, Maxine Soloway, Joshua L Phillips, Barbara Beck, Species 2571, Aithne Loeblich, Dat Cao, Scott Lakes, Stephen Riegner, Debra Defelice, Tara Polen, Jenna Appleton, Jason Potvin, Cindy Ring, Andrei Dunca, Jason Wang, Gabriel Dominic Girgis, Amber Nighbor, Jamason Isenburg, Mark G Hamilton, Rob Johnson, Maria Rosell, Heather Choe, Michael Bucklin, Lisa Klink, Jennifer Jelf, Justin Weir, Mike Chow, Rachel Shapiro, Eric Kau, Melissa A. Nathan, Captain Jak Greymoon, David Wei Liu, David J Manske, Roxane Ray, Amy Rambacher, Jessica B, E.G. Galano, Cindy Holland, Craig M. Nakashian, Will Forg, Max Wilson, Charlie Faulkner, Estelle Keller, Russell Nemhauser, Lawrence Green, Jordan Marie Benko, Christian Koch, Lisa Gunn, Kath L, Wendy Weatherholtz, Lauren Rivers, & Shane PikeThank you for your support!“Our creations are protected by copyright, trademark and trade secret laws. Some examples of our creations are the text we use, artwork we create, audio, and video we produce and post. You may not use, reproduce, distribute our creations unless we give you permission. If you have any questions, you can email us at [e-mail].”Our Sponsors:* Check out Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/TDFSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-delta-flyers/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hey everyone. Welcome to the Delta Flyers with Tom and Harry as we journey through episodes of Star Trek Voyager. Your two hosts along this journey are my fellow Voyager actor, who also appeared as himself in the 1997 film Trekkies, Mr. Robert Duncan McNeil, and myself, your favorite reverence and Garrett Wong. Remember, you can get the full version of this. this podcast by signing up to become a patron at patreon.com forward slash the Delta Flyers. Trekkies. Yes. Hey, we almost war-particleed that.

We totally did. Just talk about that for a second. How did that happen? I don't remember. Were you in Trekkies? No, no, I wasn't. No, I was not. I do.

Here's what I remember. I remember that I was at a convention. I want to say it was in Boston. I'm going to say it was in Boston. Okay. I'm actually going to say that. It was in Boston. Say it. I was in Boston for a convention, and I remember them, they were doing some filming for the documentary Trekkies. And they said, hey, would you, after your signing or after your panel, would you be willing to come over and just talk to the documentary crew?

And I was like, sure. And the person that said this was the producer or Denise Crosby or who was it that said this to you? I think it might have been Denise and the producer. I think they may have come over to the signing. table and said, hey, we're filming a bunch of stuff for this documentary about conventions and Star Trek fans. And would you want to talk for a minute? Yeah, it wasn't scheduled. It wasn't a big deal. And I just went over between maybe my panel and the signings later or something. Yeah. Did a little interview. So that was it. Yeah. That was it. Do you even remember

what you talked about at all? I have no idea. Thank you. I have no idea. Well, Speaking of Star Trek fans, we do have to announce some winners to a costume contest, but let us first talk about what episode we're going to be watching right now. Yes, what is the episode? Yes, this episode that we will be watching today is Virtuoso. So Virtuoso is the episode. And so without further ado, let's get right to the winners of this costume contest. We received quite a few submissions.

Yes, we did. Amazing stuff. So fun to look at all the creativity. And it was really fun. Really fun, but we just want to say right off the bat, for those of you who are not honorable mention or winners, please, you know, submit in the future. We loved all your submissions.

It was very, very difficult for us to make this decision. There were so many good ones. I mean, if we could have said, tied for first place, nine first place winners, In each category, we would have loved to have done that. Everybody's a winner that participated. Yeah, definitely. Everybody is a winner.

Thank you for making a smile and sending in such great stuff. It was really awesome. So we're going to go through all the categories that we were competing with. And we've got some honorable mentions in each category. And then we've got our winner. So the first category is the cutest costume. cutest. All right. So who's your first honorable mention for cutest? First honorable mention is submitted by Kellyn. Grace is her daughter and she dressed up as

Captain Janeway or as she calls her Captain Jane J. Grace. Let's clarify it. This is her four-year-old daughter. She's got the bun of steel going on. It's amazing. It's an amazing. She's got her coffee cup, her Janeway coffee cup, and of course, the Janeway uniform with her pips, and she's adorable. So, congratulations to Kellyn and her four-year-old daughter Grace for honorable mention on that one. Thank you to Eric Martinez for his submission of his family, which is basically himself, his wife, and their two kids in Star Trek costume. So that is yet another cutest honorable mention. It looks like Eric, by the way. Eric is in a TN. G-style costume, it looks like.

Uniform, yes. A uniform. And then his family are all in the original series uniforms, it looks like. Yeah. Yeah. They're all sort of different versions. Yes. I think his wife is in the TOS uniform.

But I think the kids are in the reboot, the J.J. Abrams 2008 reboot uniform. They're adorable. Amazing family. I love the photo. You all look great. Thank you. Honorable mention to the Martinez family. Yes.

And the cutest, Robbie and I both agree, the cutest winner submitted by Maxim Bradley, is Odin, the Norwegian Forest Cat, or Ensign Odin, of course, complete with his very own kitty version of the Delta Flyer. And I, I got to say, if you don't think this is cute, you are not breathing. You are not alive. There's no way. How can you not?

Oh, my goodness. Odin is in a in a uniform with Pips and a com badge and the Delta Flyer little cardboard model is amazing with all the graphics. Maxine, thank you for the submission. And this is our cutest winner. Yes. Okay. So our next category is most creative. And I will talk about our honorable mention.

And Robbie will talk about our winner. So our honorable mention for the most creative category submitted by Courtney Lucas is Quinn. The Borg Dog. Oh, my gosh. And I got to say, that is, that's a handmade costume. It has a handmade Borg costume. I love the thing that goes over the head with the little flap that comes down for the Borg eye piece.

My gosh. Borg green. And, and for Courtney to get this cute Quinn, the Borg dog to sit still for this photo and not jump off the couch. I don't know what, what process was used. in making this cute little dog sit like that, but good job. Good job. Great. All right. And our most creative winner is Dyka Hoffman. And her costume and makeup is the Delta Flyer in an inside a nebula. So she's got a Delta Flyer model on her head. Yes, attached to her head. Attached to her head. And then she has, she's wearing sort of a

nebula shirt and a scarf and she's painted her face with face paint to uh to look like a nebula and she and she has a backdrop of a nebula behind her so it's it is a nebula she is she is a living nebula she with a little delta flyer they're very creative so impressive uh great job so impressive most creative winner yeah congratulations okay okay and next is our most realistic costumes. And we'll start with the honorable mention here. It is Jeremiah Brown for his Klingon makeup, hair, the wig, the costume, all of it. Really well done. I know the Klingon makeups. I've seen them at conventions before. They sometimes can be amazing and sometimes can be a little off. This is wonderful. Very realistic. The makeup looks great. Jeremiah,

Congratulations for your honorable mention as a Klingon and most realistic. The most realistic winner is submitted by Ben Brannum, their teenager Trid Brannum, submission to the contest, dressed up as doll from Star Trek Prodigy. So good. Really, really good. Facial paint. The hair is very similar, if not exactly. I mean, I'm not sure if the hair was always like that, or if it was actually.

she shaved to look like that, but boy, it's amazing. Yeah, the face paint. And this is hard to do to take, you know, an animation character and bring it to life like this is really hard to do. So I love the photo. I love the smile in their face. It's just, it's a great, it's a great costume. Yeah, the wardrobe too matches as well.

Yeah, the wardrobe matches. I went on and just looked at this again. I googled some images. of doll and just every detail is perfect. Yeah. Great, great job. Really good. Well, congratulations to all of our winners and our honorable mentions.

Thank you so much for participating in our Halloween costume contest. I think the turnout, or not the turnout, but the participation by the fans for this contest, I just want to applaud everyone who did send in their photos for this contest. They did a great job, and I think we can make this a regular segment. Oh, this would be great. They'll just see. They're so creative for the Star Trek fans. So that would be a lot of fun. Yeah.

Well, good. All right. All right. Well, let's go watch Virtuoso. And for all of our Patreon patrons out there, please stay tuned for your bonus material. We're back from watching Virtuoso. Yes, we are. I'm feeling very musically inclined right now.

I know. I know how you like music and singing. I love a musical. and this was the closest, I think, we get to a musical. To a musical. This is the closest. Yeah, right. This is our musical episode.

Okay. So let's start right off the bat with our poetry synopsis. And I will begin with my haiku for virtuoso. Okay. Comar has no tunes. Doc performs for the masses. Tingku has no need. Oh.

Ouch, that hurts the end of that poetry. Sometimes poems end with a... With a little bit of pain. With a bite. With a bite. And I matched, if you notice, my first verse was Comar has no tunes, and it ended with Tinku has no need. So I kind of, I had a little parallel going on.

Did a little echo there. I did. I did. Okay. All right. I'm waiting for this limerick. Here we go for the limerick for Virtuoso. The Comar are delighted.

by the doctor's singing voice. When he performs, they all enthusiastically clap and rejoice. The adoration goes to his head. If Janeway's looks could kill, he'd be dead. Determined to stay, but Doc 2.0 took away the choice. Oh, wait, wait, yes, yes. But choice rhymed with what were the words that you rhyme choice with? Singing voice and rejoice.

Yes, he had a singing voice and they, clap and rejoice doc 2.0 took away the choice yeah good job thank you yeah i like it okay so this episode was written by raf green and ken biller i was right you were right i got that right you got 50 i got 50 right you guys uh yeah and directed by uncle les land oh my gosh which i was shocked you didn't think he was there i didn't think he came back but he did that my memory that my memory I think he even directed in season seven, to be perfectly honest. Yes, because he just showed back up again. At least once per season.

Yeah, we love him. Yes, love him. Okay, our guest stars, Kamala Lopez Dawson plays Tinku, the love interest. Her very first job was on the 1980s TV hit Miami Vice. Oh, goodness. She started on Miami Vice in 1986. Must have been a kid. She was a baby.

I think she was from Miami, actually. Kamala Lopez-Doss. I think she was from Miami, got cast in Miami Vice, which shot in Miami in the 80s. Maybe she was playing the young baby of a Colombian drug lord or something like that. Maybe something like that, yeah. Ray Zifo, shefo, it's X-I-F-O. I don't know how to. I like Shifo.

I like Shifo. Yeah, Shifo. He's a Barca is the character. He's the one that was really grumpy in Sick Bay in the first scene. His very first job was on a TV movie called Hard Hat and Legs, 1980. What? Wow. We have two other actresses playing the groupies.

We have Marie Caldera as Azen, and she was in Quantum Leap in 1990 was her first job. I was in Quantum Leap. And the other groupie was Nina Magnuson as Vinka. That's the girl that you talked to in the mess hall. That's right. She became a groupie in the sick bay. Her first job was just the year before this, 1999, on a WB show called Jack and Jill. Jack and Jill.

I think it was like a soapy kind of show or something. Yeah. But the last guest star I want to talk about is Paul Williams. Yes. plays Corru. Paul Williams, I love. He's a composer. He started as a songwriter. I didn't know that. Yes. And wrote so many hits. I don't even, you know what, I'm going to have to look it up. I'm a big fan of his. I did not know. I know him as an actor, but not as a composer.

He's a composer. While I look up some of his famous songs, I also want to say he did a movie in the 70s called Phantom of the Paradise, which was basically Phantom of the Opera as like a Rocky Horror Picture Show musical. And I used to go see it at the midnight movies when I was in high school. I love Phantom of the Paradise. Paul Williams is just phenomenal. Did you tell him that? Did you tell him that when he came on set?

I did. What did he say? He was very, he was very pleased. You know, he knew, I mean, obviously he knows that. that Phantom of the Paradise was a cult classic. Cult classic. Please go find it.

Everybody. It's an amazing, an amazing movie. Oh, wow. So Paul Williams wrote songs like an old-fashioned love song. It's just an old-fashioned love song. That was him.

He did Helen Reddy's You and Me Against the World. Oh, man. He wrote a big hit for Tiny Tim, fill your heart. He wrote the Carpenter's song, We've Only Just Begun. Why didn't he even go into acting? I don't even, I mean, he had so much success. He wrote Rainy Days and Mondays, another Carpenter song.

Oh, my goodness. And he wrote one of my favorites, Rainbow Connection, the Muppets song, Oscar nominated from the Muppet movie. Oh, I, yeah. I mean, the list goes on and on. An extensive musical resume. Paul Williams, I just want to save him to the end of our. cast because i'm a huge fan and was so excited i wish he had done more in the episode because he's

he's a great actor yeah and uh happy to see him in the episode so that's all i got to say about paul wins for now very cool very cool it's always nice to see when someone has success in one field and they go into another field and yeah super talented he's he's uh he's a triple threat or quadruple He's still alive. He's still fabulous. Let me see how old he is now. He's in his 80s now. He is 82 years old right now. He's born in 1940.

Yeah. But glad to see that he's still with us and love Paul Williams. That's, I can't say enough about him. Okay. Let's talk about the episode. Okay. So we start in Sick Bay. Yes, we do. where the doctor is treating some very finicky aliens, Abarka. Is that his name?

Is that what we're calling him? He's the main, most complaining guy. He's the complaining of all guys. The captain, there was a captain's log before the sick bay scene where we learn that we have towed a damaged vessel. That's right. We're attempting to help them repair it. And the doctor is treating the Omarian crew, she said.

They suffered some minor injuries. So we know we're helping some people. And in sick bay, we see the Omarians. and they're all tiny. They're all really short. Like the doctor looks like some giant, which I thought was an interesting casting idea, which is going to carry into lots of scenes here with.

But this race of aliens are pretty short. All of them looked under five feet to me. So I thought that was interesting. It was. Yeah. I love the part where one of the, I guess it is Tink, is talking to the doctor like he's a child.

And she's really slow talking, going, we want to see your captain. And then the doctor imitates her slow talking back. Yes. He's very annoyed. So he is. Yeah. And then Janeway shows up.

And she's apologizing to them for not being as advanced as they would prefer us to be, basically they're complaining to her that the doctor may not be the right person to treat them and she's saying that well he's the best that we've got so that's what you'll have to deal with and they're like we're not used to interacting with inferior species yeah they're just so rude they really are but they don't know they're rude that's the funniest thing they have no clue right so and the best is janeway's look when she leaves the scene when she leaves she rolls those eyes like great faces no other and she says as she leaves she goes well try to bear with our deficiencies just a little bit longer, which I love.

I do love that as well. Well, the doctor goes over to, I guess, what is a workstation to prepare some hypospraise and some medicine for these aliens. It looks like they have plasma burns or something going on. Yeah. You know, they've got some injuries. And then he starts singing a little ditty right there. He starts humming first.

He's humming. And he's humming. I've been working on the railroad. Yeah. And as soon as he starts humming, I love what Les Landau did. He cut to each of the characters and their heads turned really quick. Like their heads snapped over as soon as he's humming.

Yes. And they're just in trance. And then he starts singing the tunes. Yeah. And they say, do that again. They're just, they can't believe what he's doing. Well, first they ask, what is that? And he's like, oh, it's a hypo spray.

He's like, no, no, what is that? What you're doing with your voice? And you're right, they're mesmerized. And he goes, singing, I'm just singing. And they go, do it again. It was so funny. And that's how we go out of the first scene. Yeah, that's great.

Yeah, we're out of there. Oh, actually, we come back after the credits and we're still in sick bay. And the doctor is singing again. But now he's like projecting. Oh, my gosh. He's performing now. He's going big. Yep.

And he's all in. And they just don't even know what music is. They don't know what, what is the purpose of music. The doctor is giving them a crash course. Music 101 or melody 101. And he's teaching them all the things that they need to know. And basically he tells them it's, it's for recreations. Because they think it's, it's some type of, you know, some type of code.

Like you're, you're encoding something, you know, this type of, because their whole society is based on mathematics. It's all about equations and numbers and forms. formulas. So they're confused. They don't understand that this can be just for enjoyment purposes only. They're shocked by that. But they love it. They can't get enough. I love in this scene when it opens and he's singing, Dr.'s singing really big. He sort of moves through the sick bay and it pans across them watching. And then he sort of leaves the frame and he's singing off camera. And then he pops back in at the very end for the final moment. It was very well shot in stage. It just made me laugh.

It was very funny. And even the angles, like when they're gathered around him and he's telling them trying to explain what music is. And because they're short, they're much shorter than Bob. He looks like he's surrounded by like, you know, like he's a hero, surrounded by these fans and he's, you know, a foot taller than all the rest of them. It was just good, low angles.

I thought this whole scene was shot really well. Yeah. Agreed. We have a exterior space shot. of Voyager approaching the Comar planet. Looks pretty cool. There's also Captain's Log Supplemental, and the Comar have invited us to visit their system

because it is now no longer close to outsiders. Apparently, because of the singing. Yeah, exactly. Apparently, because of his singing, now open-door policy for him to come. I love the space shop because there's these space stations. I thought about Deep Space 9. It kind of looked like DS9,

station a little bit inspired, but lots of them and lots of space traffic. So they're clearly very, very advanced. And then we cut on the bridge and we see the view screen where Paris is steering, navigating us through this traffic and we see that on the screen and everyone's just amazed. We haven't seen anything quite like this before. Yeah, we're being hailed by Tinku, who introduces all of us to prelate Karu. I believe. that's what I got his name to be guru. And that is our actor Paul Williams there. You see him for the first time.

And Robbie's very excited to see Paul. I got excited. I was very excited. And then I remembered this episode. Yeah. Then I started going. So when you saw him, you had no clue he was in this episode, right? Then you realize, oh, my God, it's him. It's him.

I remember being in the mess hall with him. I remember talking to him. Yes. As soon as he popped in, many things came back. Yeah. Yeah. Talks to Janeway. Janeway, well, essentially, he wants to borrow or he's, I don't know if he even asked to borrow.

He says, we would like to have your technology of your doctor. We would like to have your hologram. We'd like to have it. You know, you can give this to us. And or at least we would like to have him perform. And Janeway is like, well, what if we just have a recital? We can have a recital on the ship. You guys can come up here and listen to his music and singing.

And they're very excited about this. they're beside themselves so they do show up and we are now in the mess hall and the doctor is giving recital and he sings the first song and they're so into it he's singing opera and it's a beautiful it's a verity opera i forget which one it is but it's uh it's he's singing a beautiful opera i think that was bob's voice i think that was bob that's saying it do you know if did he have a singing double or because it was really like sounded trained operatic. That sounded like him. But then later, the opera in the concert hall did not sound like him. I wasn't sure. It was difficult for me to make that. I think it's him. I'm

going to, I would bet that it's him. Okay. But he sings this opera song and then when he finishes, our crew starts clapping and they look around. They don't know what applause is. And then they start doing awkward clapping, which I thought was cute. And then he gives a little history lesson about the Verity opera and then he makes some joke about going off on a tangent and they laugh joke and they think that's hilarious oh they love it no one else in starfleet thinks it's funny but all the visitors do yes math jokes are hilarious and then he introduces Harry and the Kim tones right he talks about jazz another version of music and he wants yeah different kind of music type of music and so harry comes out to play the clarinet with a jazz ensemble which i didn't realize

we had such great musical talents we have i know so many i totally forgot about musicians on the on the crew yes i think there needs to be a harry kim in the kim tones t-shirt i think that's very fun that's funny yes we haven't had a harry kim shirt yet that's funny it's funny yeah so that would be a good one um but the the sad part is they don't like it at all they're not into it they hate it no and then a barca after talking to caroo caroo whispers a barca and barca says we wish to hear the doctor like very loud bring back the doctor yeah and he's just just and you know paris is now whispering to the doctor like look they're dying out there yeah they're dying and it's so weird in that one shot nowhere else in the scene you can it's like more

there's more from the angle i can see like eyeliner because like they would put eyeliner on us on you well both of us we would get a little bit of something there right yeah so i'm talking about on on paris you can see oh really yeah from that shot but nowhere else no other shot in this episode do you see it but it's heavier on that just that one shot where you're telling the doctor hey they're they're dying too much makeup well it looked like you were about to go up and do punk rock or so i feel like they sometimes put more makeup on us human characters than you would normally put on an actor on a TV show because of the prosthetic actors that if we had no makeup and they had prosthetics it would make them look even way garish yes yeah so sometimes they went they always went heavier than I liked

with more foundation or whatever they did yeah that pancake makeup but you they did do i stuff on you too though sometimes they yeah they would not always but sometimes yeah so Anyway, in that one scene, that's what that's my note. I'm like, man, you really see the islander. Well, I was dressing up for our visitors. You were doing, of course you were. You were getting dolled up for them is what you were. But thank you.

You saved my, my bum, because you convinced the doctor to get up there. And he starts, he starts singing to the tune that we were playing. Yeah, he says, pick up the tempo. Pick up the tempo. And then he starts singing that old black magic is the song. And now that he's singing, they love it. They love. So sorry, Harry.

I know. That's really sad. I thought you were great. I was enjoying just the... Thank you. The instrumental version. I didn't need the doctor to sing it. I appreciate that.

But it was nice. So that's a big hit. And a little... We kind of dissolve into later in the mess hall. We find Paris explaining rock and roll that they should, if they like music, like he starts talking 20th century. And then they ask, well, does the doctor sing that? I think Paris says, no, I don't think.

the doctor sings rock and roll does jacote say anything at all or is it just you and and a bark i think it's just me talk i think it's just paris talking about rock and roll yeah but as soon as they find out that the doctor's not going to sing rock and roll or he doesn't like it they don't like it they're like we don't now he literally just walks away i know it's like he doesn't even care he just walks right away yeah and then we find harry talking to uh a young comar woman Yeah, Vinka. That would be Vinka. Yeah, she comes up and she goes, oh, you're one of the musicians, aren't you?

And Harry has this look like, oh, I might get a little action here kind of. It looks like he's going to, he feels like he's, he's going to make. Why does Tom get this reputation of being the womanizer when Harry is definitely, Harry is definitely the womanizer. He's the one, you know, any new alien walks on. He's like, hi, nice to meet you. what do you yeah what can i tell you let's talk yeah but you're flirting with a cute blonde yeah and all she wants is to meet the doctor she wants harry to introduce her to the doctor

poor harry uh janeway's looking for the doctor and she congratulates him on his performance yeah and then the prelate invites um the doctor to come perform on his planet so everyone on the planet can hear this newly discovered thing called music. Yes. And the doctor's flattered. And the doctor says, well, you'll have to arrange the details with my representative. His agent, now he's got an agent. Yeah, Janway definitely notices that the doctor is getting a little full of himself,

starting to get a little too into this. It begins here. Yeah, she's clocking it. Yeah, she is. We go to engineering next. They're looking at the La Scala Opera House. Yes, yes, that's right. The doctor wants to reproduce the background used in a production of Pagliacci at the Teatro de la Scala, which is Earth's most famous opera house.

And this is sort of a continuation of a conversation back in the mess hall where Tinku suggests that she can help the doctor make all the necessary modifications to the lecture hall to perform. instead of just a standard lecture hall. He wants to make it bright for the acoustics. And so now they're using Torres to help. She's not into it. Oh, she's not. She, you know what's so funny? The roles are like reversed.

Usually it's the doctor with the little snappy little comments. Yeah, the attitude. And man, Torres, your darling Torres is just giving it to the doctor. I loved it. It's so funny. So the lines that I loved was when he says, I plan to segue from Don Juan to Rigoletto in the blink of an eye. And first of all, he uses blink of an eye in the line,

which is a prior, a little Easter egg to a prior episode title, right? He goes, it will be a triumph of before he can finish of. That's when Tori says, arrogance and self-absorption. So Tinku does make a comment that the doctor's crewmates don't seem to appreciate his abilities. And this is the beginning of the doctor kind of thinking about, well, you know, maybe I should go where I'm wondering. you know his thoughts i love when uh when he's talking about the costume change and he tells balana to change his uh you know adjust his program so as a midter can change his costume and she says i'm

an engineer not a costume designer yeah which i love because that's the doctor that's the doctor's pattern of speaking right yes i loved it complete role reversal here and it was awesome i mean giving the doctor a little taste of his own medicine is always fun to watch and now we're backstage and we've got to planet there's a planet shot first there is a flash shot okay there's a planet shot and I want to say I felt like that was a recycled planet shot I got that that was a disappointment to me I was like I feel like we've seen this before like maybe they added a building here or there or something but I I would put money that that was it felt old it felt like it was something that had been used maybe even on TNG or something yes it looked very old it looks old to me it looked like old

technology even for us. Yeah. So. And I made the same note and it was later because they used that same establishing. Yeah, they used it a couple times. Yeah, they did a couple times. So I made that note the later showing of it.

And I thought, wow, they spent very little money on this one. Whatever they did. I think they literally just took an old planet shot from, I think, either our show or a TNG or something. Yeah. It looked recycled. Anyway, yes. Now we go backstage at the theater.

Yeah. The doctor's nervous. and he's talking to Tinku Dinku doesn't understand where these nerves are coming from but she says well you know I can adjust those parameters to help you not feel those nerves

he's like no no just a little nervousness and you know she says okay well the show must go on it's happening now let's go and the curtain arises and he's greeted by a standing ovation which is really nice usually that comes after your performance but that's how it began

by the way did you notice so this set that is the theater, they only built the lower part of it. All the upper stuff is vis-of-cgia, yeah. But as soon as I saw that theater, when he looked out of the curtain to peek the first time, I was like, oh my gosh, that's the set we used in the rock episode, Suncati or whatever that episode. Suncati? Really? Yeah. It's the same one. Which is coming up soon, I think. So they used it for two, yes, they built it for this. Yeah. And then they have that whole thing. because I sat in that crowd watching the wrestling match or whatever for I did too.

A couple days. Yeah, we sat there. So that was the same exact set. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. All right. But yes, the curtain goes up.

Yes. Standing ovation. And then I don't think there's, is there any, you're not in the audience, right? Isn't it just they even show, I don't think they show anybody from the crew. Yeah, they do they? Yeah, Janeway's there. And I think Nelix is there. Chacote? I think I'm there too.

You're at the last one, the very final one. I know that. You're sitting next to Neelix at that one. I can't remember. I remember Janeway for sure. All right, Janeway for sure. Now we're on the bridge and Harry is talking to a crewmate when the ship switches to red alert out of the blue. Janeway comes over and asks Harry for status report. He says, who are you talking to? Do you remember? No, just a background actor.

Yeah, she would, I remember her face. so vividly and I can't think of her name and then I saw Tarek in the background so it was a nice moment up there yeah it was a nice moment uh but harry did not order the red alert no and at that moment seven hails janeway saying that she has found evidence that the comar are attempting to sabotage voyager yeah and the captain says she's on her way and now and harry says by the way when it goes to red alert before seven even chimes in yeah he says uh this command came from astrometrics captain right so it's like wait seven can put the whole ship on red alert without the captain's permission like i'm just there's a theme here like seven's she's in

charge down in astromatrix she has carte blanche she can do anything she wants on the ship have we not established that yet she can do and say anything she wants this entire ship on red alert single-handedly without anyone's permission and then she calls the bridge for the captain and says you need to get down here. I'll be there right away. Oh, Janeway's like, I'm right there. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.

I mean, yes, seven. So she hits down there. But I thought that only the captain could put a ship into red alert. I had no clue. That's what I thought too. Yeah. And so now we now know seven somehow has the ability to do the exact same thing. It's season six.

This is what happens in season six. Seven takes over. It's, I've never seen anything like it. It is insane. It just keeps happening. All these little, they're little things. Yes. But it would never happen for any other characters.

Anyway, she goes down to Astromatrix and Seven South says she's found some sabotage that the Comar trying to overload their comm system with irrelevant. Our comp system. Yeah, our Com system. They're sending these, this data to us. And it's overloading our Com system with irrelevant data. she said. Right. And she tells us how much data. She says millions of terraquads of irrelevant data. So she goes to show Janeway the irrelevant data and they look at it. And it's all messages for the doctor. It's fan mail. Yeah. I love it. He's getting so much fan mail. Yeah. And Janeway tries to explain

fan mail. Right. And doesn't know what? What is fan mail? So Jamie tries to explain it. There's a great camera move as she's doing that sort of circles around the back side of astrometrics. And I really thought it was great. It was a nice, just did the scene breathe nicely. The camera moved nicely. It was a fun conversation about fan mail. It's just so interesting that we have this as a plot, you know, in an episode of our show, set in the future, which is kind of a parallel of our real lives when we're not in front

of the camera. I don't know if that was the intention of the writing of it, but I don't think so. I don't think so either. It definitely made me feel that way, though. I was like, oh, boy, yeah, especially that scene that comes up a little bit later. So Janeway finds all this is very amusing. And she says to seven as she's leaving. She says, just think, as personal friends of the doctor, we're the envy of millions of coma.

So, like, Janeway's like, look, we know this famous guy. So let's enjoy it. Why not? Janeway is leaving because right before that comment. comment about, you know, we're friends of the doctor and everyone is now envious of us in the Comar system. She got a hail from Tuvok saying there's a security problem on deck two. And so she's on her way again. Deck two corridors. We have the Comar everywhere. They're just all lined up trying to, there's a huge cue there. And Tuvok, he wants to refuse all further requests

for transport from the surface. Janeway agrees because this is a getting ridiculous. Yeah, hundreds of Comar, swarming the ship. They're interfering with normal ship functions. Yeah. And the captain agrees, yes, we should stop any more visits. Right. And get everybody back to their planet.

Yeah. And it's a funny scene. By the way, there's lots of extras that were all short again. Like, I think we got every short extra in Hollywood for this scene. because they were they were all you know five feet or under yes and they were all various ethnicities as well various ethnicities of comar that is and all short all five footers or less yeah or less there were yeah some which i i just thought was really a fun detail and and we hadn't done that before ever on the series you know so then we go into mess hall and we see it's hard to know

what we're looking at it first because it looks like a mini doctor yeah on a tabletop or something right singing and then all of a sudden the real as the camera pulls back a little the real doctor's head pops in and he starts singing a duet with himself and we reveal that it's a little card that's a hologram yeah that will play a hologram of him singing yeah so he's got a little mini holographic emitter that he's signing and giving to them it was very funny very funny I wrote down the doctor sings with his

mini me replica and he's dressed like Hugh Hefner basically he's sitting there he's in the bathrobe I love the bathrobe or smoking jacket whatever you want to call it

and oh this is probably my favorite scene in this whole episode and he sits there and he says please accept this 8 by 10 by 4 singing replica of me I don't know good this is the best

and Neelix is acting like convention staff right oh yeah one at a time please don't touch the doctor's mobile emitter one at a time you know this is something that we've seen at conventions as well you know trying to manage the queue of fans trying to get an autograph from the actors and my goodness janeway comes in to see this and and nilis is excited and he's like look at this is so amazing and and janeway just not happy with this and she kind of britt yeah yeah she's heading up right up to the front of the line the doctor says no captain you have to wait in line like everyone else And she says, I'm not here for an autograph.

We need to talk. And her voice got so deep. She's like, I am not here for an autograph. We need to talk. I was like, whoa, she's pissed. Yeah, she says that she's glad that he's enjoying himself. But it's getting a little excessive. And he says, well, he's just trying to ensure that first contact goes well.

And Janeway comes back with, what does that include using replicator rations to produce miniaturized versions of yourself. And then he goes, no, no, no, I would never do such a thing. The Comar have devoted an entire hollow processing plant to manufacture them for me. It's what he said. And Jayway's response when she says, I see is the best. She's like, I see.

Oh, I loved it. She's great. Oh, Kate did such a good job with this. He also calls her Catherine in the same. Oh, my God. He says something like, well, you understand, Catherine. Oh, my. And she says, oh, I wasn't aware.

we're on a first name basis now. Yep. Yep. And then she says something like, well, let me make it clear to both of you. Oh, because she says, should I call you, she goes, should I call you maestro? And he's like, well, oh, if you'd like, either is acceptable like that. And she goes, well, let me make this clear to the both of you after that myestro comment. Report to Sickbay now. Doctor, reporting your duties.

You're done. Doctor, report to sickbay. Such a good scene like that is. Very funny. We go to sick bay. Paris is treating Vinka and Azen. The doctor enters and Paris hands it off to the doctor. He's like, they seem to be fine.

And the doctor starts to check them out. And he realizes there's really nothing wrong with them that they faked this sickness. So they could get into sick bay. And now they're coming on super strong. And he is terrified. And they back him. up all the way over by his office and he eventually deactivates, you know, computer deactivate emergency medical program.

And he's out. So classic. Very funny. Mm-hmm. It's good scene. On stage. We go to the theater. Yes.

We go back to the theater. Theater. Oh, Tinku finds a doctor. Yes. And she has created a new music composition for the doctor to sing. And it is based on the intersection of two fractals. So it's a very complex. Mathematical complex.

music, musical piece. Some of the notes are beyond human range. Yes. And the doctor says, well, I can't do this. And she says, well, you know, you're not human. And I can reconfigure, I can help you reconfigure your vocal processors. She says to him, why do you have to go? Why don't you stay here with us?

And this is a scene where I really felt an honest emotional connection. Just like the doctor was experiencing, like he's starting to fall for her. She's, you know, she really appreciates him. She says, you know, why can't you stay here? He says, well, I have to go there. My friends. And she said, they don't appreciate you like we do. Yeah.

And then he also makes that comment. He says, well, not everything is a mathematical equation. And she says, well, what about this one? One plus one. Yes. Which to me sounds like she's into the doctor. It sounds like it is. Absolutely.

And he believes that too. You can see his reaction to that comment. So that sort of still. feels his nerves and he's ready to talk to the captain. He is now in Janeway's ready room and he's resigning his commission. He's not going to be the doctor on Voyager any longer. She says, I thought this was just going to be harmless fun. Yes.

But this is going too far. He says, no, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for me to fulfill my dreams. Yeah. And then they get into a really heated scene. This was a long scene. Very long. And a really classic kind of Star Trek debate about humanity and about, you know, whether data was a, you know, Android or more human, whether Spock has human quality. It's the classic debate, but it was a big, deep one.

And I thought it was really, really great. He even says at one point, well, what if this, what if I were Harry, and Harry Kim met an alien and wanted to say, you'd let him go. and he's very emotional in this scene he argues that he's earned the right to be treated like any other crew member just like Harry if he's fallen in love and then she says something like well you know fame is temper often temporary

and he says this isn't about fame in fact there's a woman involved is what he says it's a woman yeah and then Janeway makes a comment in the scene at one point when when he says it's about a woman where she says, wow, well, it sounds like you have everything you need. And I keep thinking about Fairhaven and now Janeway has been wanting a relationship and she's jealous that the doctor's found.

It was a moment of she wants love too. And she hears that he thinks he's found it and he's going to get it and she can't. And so it was very interesting. It is. But she ultimately gives in and says, as his friend, I'm not going to stand in your way. Yeah. As your captain, I should decline your request to resign your commission. But as your friend, I'll let you do what you want to do.

Exterior space shot of Voyager and orbit of the Comar planet. And then we're back in sickbay where we have Tom Parry getting last minute instructions and reminders. Everyone's medical needs. Everyone's medical needs are basically, yeah. And Tom's just like, dude, I know the drill. I've been assisting you for three years. And then I wrote a note, three years, is that right?

You've been assisting for three years now? I didn't seem like it was been that long, but okay. Well, since Kess left, right? Yeah, I suppose. Basically, I became the nurse. Third year now, yeah, yeah. And then, of course, the doctor says, well, I thought of all people, you would be glad to see me go.

And Tom says, well, who am I going to torment now? Exactly. So, yeah, so Tom's actually. not happy that he's going to go. Yeah, that was a nice scene. Yeah, it was a good scene. And then we go to Cargo Bay and the doctor enters. And at first, when he came in, because she was up on the platform, I didn't realize

the staging of the scene. He looked super short. And I was like, oh, my gosh, he's transformed himself into one of the aliens. The Comar, he's a short Comar alien. But then she steps down, I realized he wasn't tiny like that. Oh, speaking of which, I'm going to just reverse a little bit, in that debate in the ready room. Janeway at one point gains the higher ground by stepping up into that high upper area,

you know, and to make sure that she's more dominant in that debate. So I thought that was interesting. Yeah, there was a lot of, less did a lot of things with, you know, people up high and down low and low angles and things. I really liked it. I thought it was visually very interesting. But the doctor goes in to talk to seven. He says he's downloaded 17 new chapters of her social lessons for her to study.

And seven is pissed in this scene. she's she's not happy about the doctor leaving not happy but she the way it was played to me it was it was almost as if that she was she was as if he was breaking up with her like as if they were in a in a committed relationship is the way it looked like to me and that yeah that i didn't think was the right way to play it personally so it was it was it was such a yeah she played it so emotionally she's mad at him that he just wants attention and she brings up fan mail in the scene you just want more fan mail and he says well maybe you know that makes him feel like you know he's made of flesh and blood and uh tink who calls him and he's got to leave and uh and at

the end she goes from like the ang one of the angriest i've ever seen seven yeah to like this longing this long close up on seven kind of yearning for the doctor's exit it felt very romantic to me in a way that didn't seem justified. Right. So you're agreeing with me then, right? It was like, where is this coming from? I mean, if this is your mentor, someone who's been helping you, you can be upset, but you can't get to the point where you're like,

how dare you leave me? It should be, yeah, you're not heartbroken. You should be like, well, I wish you well. You know, you've been my mentor. I only wish for your happiness. And if your happiness means you want to stay on this planet, well, so be it. Right. But instead, it seemed like they were married.

And he just told her, look, you know, I'm leaving you for another woman named Tin Koo. And every time he says Tin Koo, I'm waiting for him to say Tin Kup or something like that. I keep thinking of Tintin, the cartoon, the animated movies, the Tintin movies. Yes, I remember those. But again, this was an off scene for me. It didn't play well for me. I just didn't understand it where the motivation came from. But yes, he's drawn away because he gets a message.

He's hailed by Tinku saying that she has a. surprise to show him and he's thinking oh you know this is going to be something romantic for my my dear yes he's so excited and guess what he shows up at tinko's lab and she has created a superior hollow matrix so basically a hologram that's better than the doctor looks just like the doctor but it's got the it's got the Comar ridges and everything yeah yeah and she goes isn't this great you can stay on Voyager yeah she's You're going to love this. I had a hard time watching any scene that she was in,

just because I kept staring at that one final little lower triangle on her little forehead. I felt like I just wanted to put a green pea in it. Like, just, I'm sorry, it bothered me. But yeah, so the new hologram is a work of art or a work of technology in that it can sing at these crazy, crazy, crazy octaves far above what any human can sing.

So he does sing a little bit, but then he starts boasting about all his merits, and the doctor just deactivates the whole graph. He just turns the whole thing off. He's like, no, no. He has polyphonic sequences and harmonic overtones and he turns him off. And he says, music is much more than just mathematics.

And the doctor says, I'm much more than a program. And all of his, he says, all of my experience, all my passion that I've experienced. goes into the music. It's artistry.

It's my soul. And then he says, I thought that's what you wanted. And she's, and she's listening. And then she's, she's very cold in the scene. She's like,

but the copy is far superior. Yeah. And she also says, and you showed me that you were hesitant to stay here. You wanted to stay with your crew. So I thought this is a win-win situation. And the doctor starts going into, but I thought that we were going to

and he doesn't end his sentence he doesn't end his sentence and he says I thought that maybe you I and she's like what she had no clue where he was going and that's when he realized she had no romantic love for yeah it was a

never mind thing poor doctor yeah it was and he says well I guess you won't need me tomorrow night then she's no no no you're definitely going on tomorrow night for your farewell performance and he was just crestfallen at that point very sad

Then we go to Sick Bay and he's practicing for his farewell performance. And he's trying to hit this super high note. He's like, oh, and he kind of, he kind of, you know, goes too high, can't quite reach it. I was like, ouch, it hurt my ears a little bit. Bala comes in. Bala comes in. And he wants Bala's clearance code to delete his medical database. This is how desperate he is.

And she's like, you're sure you want to do that? If you give one of your fans a heart attack, you won't be able to resuscitate him, which is another dig, another dig a la the doctor by Bilana, your beloved. I laugh so hard at that. And no, he needs more space in his matrix to expand his musical subroutine. So he can sing Tinku's composition because if he can sing it, she will see him for the artist. He truly is. And Torres looks at the doctor and says, look, I don't know what's going on, you know,

between you and Tinku, your girlfriend. But I can change all the subroutines you want. But guess what? You're not going to be you anymore. And that sort of rests on him. That makes sense to him. Yeah. That hit, that hits home.

Yeah, because that's really what he wants is to be an individual. He wants to have the qualities of a human. So we go to a planet shot again. Is this the same one? Yes, this is the one where I wrote, yeah, the cityscape one that they did not spend much money on. Yes. We're in the theater now. The doctor's in a tux.

Yeah. And he says he can't sing Tinku's song. right but he'll sing an aria about lost love a neapolitan ballad about lost love about his lost love for tinku clearly yeah tom and nilix are seated together and you two must have had a heyday sitting up there filming joking around i was so jealous i was like where's harry i'm sure harry wasn't there i know you had fun that day that must have been a fun day for you and janeway's there by yourself so the only starfleet crew we have are janeway paris and nilix in this final performance.

That's the only ones that love the doctor. Clearly. And Seven's pissed at him, so she's not going to learn. And Janeway's emotional in this scene. She wipes away some tears. Yeah. Yes. Tinku does introduce the music.

And it's a beautiful ballad, by the way. It is. It's a really moving. It's nice. But the Comar don't like it much. They're like, nah. Yeah. And, you know, when I think about that,

what I was watching that, And I started thinking how much of Italian art and culture that Bob was able to showcase on our show. If you think about this, like all the operas and things like that. Yeah. You know, he really was able to get that in there, which is something that. Yeah, which is very important. And one else got a chance to do, I think, you know. Yeah.

Good for him. She wipes away tears. The new improved Holo Matrix comes out. Tinku introduces the Holo Matrix that she programmed. And he starts singing so well. he can sing bass and soprano and male voices and female voice yeah yeah yeah yeah it's all over the play but at one point that you can hear male and female voices coming from him at the same time so it's like he's singing two voices at the same time which

nobody can do that performance terrified me by the way it was it was scary but it was scary the comar loved it oh they love it jane way paris and nilix are just kind of looking around like like, okay, we'll clap, I guess. You know, there's a little nervousness there, but it was a little scary watching that performance, for sure. You go to the ready room. The doctor appears in Janeway's ready room and asks to be reinstated. And he wants to delete all of his musical subroutines.

He doesn't want to sing anymore. He wants to get rid of that part of his program. And she says, no, you can't get rid of that. Yeah. Just like Seven said, you know, you wouldn't be you. unless you keep all of you and so she says no and he leaves but the doctor does get a little reprimand first right

when he comes in to give her that formal request to be reinstated she goes so you've come back with your tail between your legs kind of thing so but yeah Janeway basically says I want you to stay the same way you are with all your subroutines musical subroutines included so he's happy about that we go to sick bay yeah and and the doctor is watching his mini hologram again the little the little mini projector and then he kind of slides it into the trash off his desk and it and the camera pans over to seven I love how many shots do you think they did that I don't know I make it into that bin you know

so it was great really really cool definitely seven comes in and reads well she says I have a piece of fan mail for you oh and the doctor's like well I don't want to hear it forget about it. It's like, well, I'm going to read it. So she reads it. And basically, it's very touching. It is very touching. Even though that you may not have enjoyed,

you may not have thought you did the best performance, but there's still people that really care about you and think you're very talented, and I am your biggest fan. And the doctor asked, well, who wrote that? And she says, 7 of 9, tertiary adjunct, you know, make sure it's 01, whatever. So it's a really touch.

It's very sweet. Yeah. Yeah. It's a very sweet ending and wrapped up that storyline nicely with seven the doctor and after she leaves he goes back out into the the main part of sick bay the main part of sick bay and we see him starting to sing i've been working on the railroad again yeah back to the beginning nice little book end scene right there right i yeah i agree i agree okay so there you go what's your lesson from this one i kind of had two lessons, I guess. I wrote down that one lesson is the ego can be easily tempted.

Like, that's a lesson for all of us is to keep our egos in check and, you know, getting sort of buttered up and praised and stuff can easily go to your head. And the other lesson I got is fame is fleeting. I think for so many people, not just Star Trek actors who, you know, do a show for a few years and feel like you're on top of the world. And luckily, we have Star Trek fans that keep this, this, you know, franchise and the actors that have been a part of it alive through fandom. But a lot of people like athletes or pop stars or whatever, like, or even in business, I guess if you work for a company and one, you know, one week you could be the, the hero with the project you've, you know, found a solution for. And then you're just back to be in a, you know,

one of the regular company people. So fame is fleeting in lots of ways in our lives. And so those are the two lessons. The ego, check your ego and remember that fame is fleeting. It's really easy for things to get to your head, I think. As human beings, it's really easy. Yeah. That's a great lesson.

And I wrote Famous Fleeting as well. Never change who you are to try to impress someone else. Be yourself. That was another lesson that I had. Because a lot of times, man, I mean, that ending scene where he's with balana and he's just asking her he's so desperate to have what he wants to show her that he's yeah that he has value or that he means something or that he's important and and boy that he has to be something else yeah be more than he is yeah when he's

just perfect the way he is yes everyone is perfect the way they are they don't need to sit there and change you know 15 000 things about themselves in order to impress somebody else right i mean and if that's the if that's the way you have to go about life boy that's a miserable existence to constantly try to to kind of sense looking for the approval of others oh yeah like what if i do this is this what everyone's going to dig or if i act this way is this how everyone's going to like me boy that's just not the way to live so yeah so my lessons like yours famous fleeting is one but really most importantly my lesson from this is be yourself yeah and love yourself and know that you you are enough as you are yeah great yeah ratings i am going

to give this my rating is 7.3 oh 7.3 what is yours interesting well you know i love musicals and this is a musical episode it does have pretty much everybody in it does um There was a lot of laughs in it. It hit a lot of the bases for me. So I'm going to give it an 8.4. I really like this episode. And Paul Williams. Come on.

Paul Williams. Oh, yeah. See, that's a plus there. Love Paul. I'm going to say, before you open it up, before you open it up, I'm going to, this is my new thing. I'm going to say my heart rating and then what I think the average rating is going to be. Okay.

So I think the average rating on this is going to be 7.7. Okay. Yeah, just under eight, basically. And what was your rating? 7.3. 7.3, yeah. Okay, the Admiral and Captain's average rating for Virtuoso is 6.7. Oh, wow.

It's even low. Wow, I wonder why did people not love this episode? I really enjoyed it. I thought Bob did such a good job, and Kate was phenomenal. I'm a solid eight or nine on this. But you love music. And so there's a lot of music in here. And I like music as well.

But, you know, it's also hard for me to watch an episode where our holographic doctor who was a program is basically dealing with falling in love with this way. I mean, just a lot of it, I was like, come on. Yeah, you have those. I still have those issues. Things where just like you don't want to go there. I don't want to go there. I don't mind.

I don't mind. I don't mind. In fact, I love it. I love it when. technology becomes more human, when Vulcans become more human, when Klingons find their humanity or humans find their Klingonness. I like, I like when we start to see others in ourselves that we have parts of. And I like that too when it's when they are people that are flesh and blood, you know, and this goes all back to the whole argument we've had or discussion we've had

since day one of the doctor wanting to have recognition for being sentient and being his own being but again he's not flesh and blood and that's always been my debate in my own head I know I know you've got that well I still give it 8.4 work I love what did you say again

six point what's the average rating 6.7 dang wow I thought it would be higher from the album musical musicals you know not everybody loves a musical so okay thank you everybody

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